Feb 09, 2021 City Council

APPLICATION OF SECTION TWO OF THIS RESOLUTION, WOULD WE BE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF THE FEES BY TWO HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS OR REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF THE FEES TO $250.

NO, JUST IN THE AMOUNT OF 250 TO SHOW THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY SUPPORTS THE PROJECT AND HAS A LITTLE BIT OF SKIN IN THE GAME.

PERMITTING FEES ARE IN EXCESS OF A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DROPPING IT DOWN TO 1750 IF THEY WERE.

YEAH, THAT CAME UP LAST TIME.

THEORETICALLY, YES.

IS OUR POSITION IS SHOWING GOOD FAITH THAT WE SUPPORT THE PROJECT ALONG IF THE RESOLUTION PASSES TONIGHT.

AND JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LISTENING AT HOME, THIS IS BASICALLY A TRACT OF LAND BEHIND THE SPECS, KING DOLLAR AREA.

WHAT WAS IT CALLED WOOD RIDGE? THIS RUNS EAST AND WEST.

AND IT WOULD BE JUST BEHIND THAT COMPLEX THERE IS A TRACT OF LAND THAT IS ABUTTING TO WEST PORT APARTMENTS, WHICH IS ANOTHER APARTMENT THAT'S RIGHT BESIDE IT.

JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS.

OK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

COUNCIL.

MR MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210209 SUPPORTING A HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION FOR THE AMBER RIDGE APARTMENTS, LP.

SO I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

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MOVING RIGHT ALONG NUMBER 9, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER

[9. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210209-009 amending the Code of Ordinances Chapter 9, Garbage and Refuse, Sec. 9-21 Section 9a-Residential, Garbage and Refuse Collection Rates; revising and providing for an increase in the rates to be charged for solid waste collection; providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances; providing a severability clause; providing for an open meetings clause and providing an effective date.]

20210209-009 AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER NINE GARBAGE AND REFUSE SECTION 9-21, SECTION 9A RESIDENTIAL GARBAGE AND REFUSE.

REFUSE COLLECTION RATES, REVISING AND PROVIDING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE RATES TO BE CHARGED FOR THE SOLID WASTE COLLECTION.

PROVIDING FOR A REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES.

PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN OPEN MEETINGS CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MS. SUSIE OR CHRIS.

I'LL JUST GIVE THE SUMMARY, WE HAD A REQUEST ON DECEMBER 24TH FOR AN INCREASE OF A THREE POINT FIVE PERCENT AND THAT'S BASED ON THE ESCALATOR CLAUSE OF THE CONTRACT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

IT'S A 10 YEAR CONTRACT.

THIS IS THE FOURTH YEAR AND THEY DID PROVIDE THE PROOF OF THAT AND WE VERIFIED IT.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ACCEPT FOR THE INFLATIONARY INCREASE.

AND THE REASON I HAD THIS PULLED WAS BECAUSE I WAS NOT PARTICULARLY HAPPY WITH WASTE C ONNECTIONS FOR THE SERVICE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.

I THINK IT ALL KIND OF STARTED WITH THE ROLL OUT OF THE TRASH CANS AND THAT DEBACLE AND THEN THE HEAVY WEIGHT, THE HEAVY TRASH PICKUPS AND THE INCONSISTENCIES AND THEN COMING TO US FOR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE.

I FELT ON THE CPI WHEN INFLATION WAS ONLY ONE PERCENT, A LITTLE OVER ONE PERCENT WAS KIND OF HIGH.

CHRIS AND SUSIE BOTH CORRECTED ME ON THE CPI U, IT'S FOR THE SPEAKERS] TRASH AND GARBAGE COLLECTION SPECIFICALLY.

AND THEY'RE STATING THAT THEIR COST IS THREE AND A HALF PERCENT HIGHER.

AND SOME OF THAT, I'M SURE, IS AROUND PAYROLL.

AND THAT'S BASED ON OCTOBER TO OCTOBER.

IF YOU LOOK AT DECEMBER, THOSE NUMBERS [INAUDIBLE] THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE FOUR POINT FOUR PERCENT AT THIS POINT.

THE THE OTHER ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE THE CONTRACT AGAIN AS A COUNCIL, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A 10 YEAR CONTRACT, WHICH IS A VERY LONG CONTRACT THAT'S NOT NORMAL.

I MEAN, IN OUR IN OUR HISTORY FOR THE CITY, IT'S NOT BEEN HISTORICAL, 10 YEAR CONTRACTS.

THEY WERE FIVE YEARS TYPICALLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ROAD MAINTENANCE THAT'S BEING CREATED IN THIS CASE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE WASTE CONNECTIONS ACTUALLY BE MORE OF A PARTNER WITH US AND HELP US WITH GETTING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR TRASH TRUCKS.

AND SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY POINT TO THIS.

YOU KNOW.

DULY NOTED SIR.

DULY NOTED.

WE'VE HAD SOME HICCUPS.

AND I KNOW CITIES TRIED TO WORK WITH WASTE CONNECTIONS AND TRY TO RESOLVE A LOT OF THOSE HICCUPS.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, JOHN, WE DID HAVE WE HAD SOME BIG BUMPS IN THE ROAD AND WE HAD TO LIKE OUR.

WE HAD A LOT OF WOUNDS FROM THIS, THIS IS FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT.

WE'VE HAD THEM COME TO OUR COUNCIL.

BUT MAYBE CHRIS WHITTAKER, MAYBE WE CAN MAYBE SET UP A LITTLE WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING WITH THEM TO KIND OF SEE WE'RE AT, DO AN EVALUATION OF THEM.

AND SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND LET THEM KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE CARE ABOUT THEM AS A BUSINESS PARTNER.

BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING VERY IT'S WORKING OUT FOR BOTH PARTIES.

SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

BEING GOOD PARTNERS WITH US.

A GOOD BUSINESS, GOOD BUSINESS COMMUNITY PARTNER FOR US.

I MEAN, THEY ARE AN EXTENSION OF OUR SERVICE.

I MEAN, IT'S COMING THROUGH US.

AND I THINK JUST TO CLARIFY, I GUESS THAT IS A 10 YEAR AGREEMENT.

I THINK PART OF THE AGREEMENT FOR THAT LARGE IS BECAUSE THAT THEIR INVESTMENT ON THAT WE SOME NEW TRUCKS, BECAUSE WE WENT TO THE AUTOMATED PICKUP THERE TO BUY ALL THE TRASH CANS AND THE NEW [INAUDIBLE] BINS.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY.

SO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME REASONING WHY WE DID THE 10 YEAR AGREEMENT TO MAKE IT WORKABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

SO BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WHAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING.

AND TWO, THERE'S THERE NEEDS TO BE RECOURSE FOR POOR SERVICE AND FAILED CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS.

I JUST BE BEGGING THEM TO DO THEIR WORK THAT THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO DO.

SO THERE'S BEEN PILES OF TRASH AROUND THE TOWN.

AND [INAUDIBLE] YOU'VE GOT TO BEG THEM TO COME GET IT.

AND IT JUST AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT'S A FAILED CONTRACT OBLIGATION RIGHT THERE.

AGREED.

WELL, I ECHO A LOT OF WHAT JOHN JUST SAID AND THAT THAT SERVICE IS ONE OF THE CORE RESPONSIBILITIES OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY AND THE CITY [INAUDIBLE] AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S TO PICK UP OUR TRASH AND DO SO IN A WAY THAT'S LEAST DISRUPTIVE.

SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD PARTNERS FOR EACH OTHER.

WELL I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT NOW, WE'VE BEEN ROCKING AND ROLLING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, HAVE THE MEETING.

LET'S SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE AT AND MAYBE GET SOME BENCHMARKS FOR

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IMPROVEMENT AND WE CAN START WORKING ON IS IT A BREACH OF CONTRACT LIKE MR BOOTH SAID? SO THAT'LL BE A GOOD COURSE TO START THE YEAR OUT.

YEAH, I DEFINITELY AGREE.

I BELIEVE I DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.

SO WELL, DID HE LEAVE? I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM.

MR. SHAEFER.

I GUESS HE LEFT? CHIEF, YOU WANT TO SEE IF HE'S HAPPEN TO BE STANDING OUTSIDE JUST BY CHANCE? I DON'T WANT TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY.

YEAH, MR. WHITTAKER, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD ON WEST CONNECTIONS THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE.

HOW ARE THEY GETTING BETTER? HOW ARE THEY MEASURING THEMSELVES FOR SERVICE? OK.

OK, THANK YOU, CHIEF.

OK, MR. SHAEAFER, WAS ASKED TO SPEAK, BUT HE'S NO LONGER HERE, SO IT WAS NOTED.

OK, COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, SINCE THEY ARE WRITING THE CHECK TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON, THEY FEEL LIKE WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF GETTING THEIR TRASH PICKED.

AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED WHEN THEY CALL CITY AND THEY SAY YOU'VE GOT TO CALL WASTE CONNECTIONS, BUT I'M WRITING YOU CHECK TO GET IT DONE.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE THIS [INAUDIBLE] THAT THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH JUST TO GET SORT OF THAT THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO [INAUDIBLE] OK, LET ME ASK A QUESTION TO CHRIS AND SUSIE.

OR TO CHRIS, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE REFUSE.

CAN WE REFUSE THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE? NO, NOT BASED ON THE CONTRACT.

WE'D BE IN VIOLATION OF THE CONTRACT AND THEY COULD TERMINATE IT.

CAN WE COUNTER? CATCH YOU ON THE NEXT ONE JOHN OK, NOW THAT WE HAVE A CHRIS HILL I'M CHANGING MY NAME OR SOMETHING.

OH, OK.

TRY TO CONNECT HIM SO HE CAN SPEAK, IF THAT'S OK.

THAT'S FINE.

LET HIM SPEAK, PLEASE, MA'AMS. I HAVEN'T DONE THIS BEFORE, SO IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO TRY IT.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.

I HAVEN'T DONE THIS BEFORE.

EXCUSE ME.

MY PROBLEM I HAD RECENTLY WITH HEAVY TRASH PICKUP.

THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THE 2ND OF JANUARY.

I CALLED THEM ON THURSDAY AND THEY SAID THEY'D BE THERE FRIDAY.

I CALL THEM ON FRIDAY AND THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP.

I FILED A [INAUDIBLE] ON SATURDAY, THEN I CALLED THEM ON MONDAY.

THEY FINALLY SHOWED UP ON TUESDAY, HAVING DRIVEN BY THE SMALL AMOUNT OF TRASH SITTING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR FOUR DAYS.

SO I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME BETTER ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WHEN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES.

BUT WHEN YOU DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND IF YOU HEARD OUR DISCUSSION, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET A PLAN TOGETHER.

IT'S BEEN NOTED.

HOW LONG OF A DELAY DO WE HAVE? WHEN DOES WHEN DO WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS? FORTY FIVE DAYS AFTER THE, IT HAS TO BE FORTY FIVE DAYS AFTER THEIR NOTICE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IT'S NOW.

A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.

IS THERE ANY YOU SAY IF WE DON'T DO IT, THEN IT'S A BREACH OF THE CONTRACT AND THEY CAN TERMINATE? IS THERE A PENALTY ON TERMINATION? I KNOW I'M ASKING A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THEY DID HAVE A WAITING PERIOD TO ASK FOR THE FIRST ONE.

INCREASE IT BASED ON THE CPIU.

IS THAT ANNUALLY NOW? INCREASE BASED ON THE CPIU.

THAT'S NEVER GOING TO GO BELOW THE ORIGINAL COST.

I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST, AS A COUNCILMAN, I DON'T WANT TO GRANT THEM THIS INCREASE, BUT I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THE SERVICES HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE.

AND LET ME ASK YOU ON THE CONTRACT ITSELF, I KNOW MAYBE WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE, BUT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE 10 YEAR OK, AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE A MORE TRADITIONALLY A FIVE YEAR.

WHAT ABOUT THE INCREASE BEING ABLE TO INCREASE IT ANNUALLY? YOU KNOW, NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A TWO YEAR I GUESS THEY HAD TO HOLD FAST AND NOW THAT THEY CAN.

IS THAT ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S WHAT WE COMMONLY SEE WITHIN CONTRACTS OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WAS MAYBE COULD HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED BETTER?

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I MEAN, THAT'S COMMON.

OK, THAT IS COMMON.

JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THAT'S A COMMON PRACTICE.

STANDARD PRACTICE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO THE CITIZENS FOR THE ISSUES THAT THEY'VE BEEN HAVING TO JUSTIFY A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE.

I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A PRICE INCREASE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, ROADS CONTINUE TO GET MESSED UP AND WASTE CONNECTIONS DOES NOT OFFER ONE BIT OF HELP FOR FIXING THE ROADS THAT THEY BREAK OR THE RUTS THAT THEY LEAVE.

WE WOULD HAVE I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO DOCUMENT THOSE THINGS AND GIVE THEM NOTICE OF THOSE THINGS.

THEY WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO CURE IT.

BUT SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING NOTICING IF WE WANT THEM TO USE THAT.

GO AHEAD., CHRIS WHITTAKER.

SO WE GET COMPLAINTS AT CITY HALL, GENERALLY, WE EMAIL THEM OR CONTACT WITH WASTE CONNECTIONS.

SO WE HAVE A PAPER TRAIL OF TIMES THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD AND THEN WE'VE GONE TO WASTE CONNECTIONS AND SAID, HEY, SOMEONE LIKE YOU BROUGHT IT UP A COUPLE TIMES, LIKE SOMEONE DIDN'T PICK UP WHATEVER.

OUR FOLKS HAVE NOTIFIED THEM IN WRITING.

SO WE HAVE A PAPER TRAIL.

I THINK IT GOES BACK TO MR. BOOTH'S COMMENT, THOUGH IF THE CITIZENS ARE KIND OF CONFUSED AS THEY CALL UP TO CITY HALL AND THEN THEY GET TOLD TO CALL WASTE CONNECTIONS.

AND THE NEXT TIME THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CALL CITY HALL, THEY'RE GOING TO CALL WASTE CONNECTIONS.

SO WE LOSE THAT PAPER TRAIL.

SO I WISH THAT WE HAD A VERY ROBUST PROCESS THAT WAS IN PLACE FOR TRACKING THEIR ISSUES AND MAYBE MAKING SURE I HATE TO SAY THAT WE'RE THE GATEKEEPER.

BUT ULTIMATELY, LIKE MR. BOOTH SAID, WE'RE THE ONES THAT THEY'RE PAYING THE MONEY TO.

YEAH, SO BUT I WILL TELL YOU, TOO, I CAN USE MY NEIGHBORHOOD EXAMPLE.

I WATCHED ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS PUT AN EXTREMELY LARGE PILE OF BRUSH OUT THERE, AND HIS COMMENT WAS THE SAME THING.

HOW COME THEY DIDN'T PICK UP MY TRASH? WELL, [INAUDIBLE] I THINK IT'S FOUR CUBIC YARDS FOR A PICKUP.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD GO PICK ALL HIS STUFF UP AT ONCE, BUT THEN THEY MAY BE STIFFING SOMEONE DOWN THE ROAD ON IT.

I'M NOT MAKING ANY EXCUSES FOR THEM, BUT I'M SAYING THERE'S DEFINITELY CIRCUMSTANCES TO IT.

THEY TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD PICK UP A CERTAIN PORTION AND TAG SPRAY PAINT OR SOMETHING ON THE SIDE TO SHOW WHAT WAS PICKED UP OR WHAT WAS LEFT.

I GUESS MINE WAS ALONG THE SAME LINE OF JOHN IS THAT WHAT DO WE DO AS FAR AS A FOLLOW UP? SO COMPLAINTS ADDRESS TO US.

WE FORWARD IT ON TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT AND WHAT IS THERE ANYTHING DONE ON OUR END IS TO SEE IF THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED.

IF THAT TASK WAS ASSIGNED AND TAKEN CARE OF AND THEY TOOK CARE OF IT.

OR DO WE JUST WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO CALL BACK AND COMPLAIN IT'S STILL OUT THERE.

WELL, SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BOTH THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.

SOMETIMES.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE THE COMPLAINT AND THEY TAKE CARE OF IT.

AND SOMETIMES THE RESIDENT WILL MESSAGE US BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE GOT PICKED UP OR SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE THAT SAME THING LIKE, HEY, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GET PICKED UP, IT DIDN'T GET PICKED UP.

AND SO WE ARE HOLLAR BACK AT WASTE CONNECTIONS TO SAY, HEY, STILL HASN'T BEEN PICKED UP.

WELL THE CONTRACTS SAY THAT ALL COMPLAINTS ARE SUPPOSED TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE CONTRACTOR AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP A LOG OF ALL THOSE AND THE DATE TIME AND WHAT THEY DID TO RESOLVE IT.

WE CAN ASK FOR THAT LOG.

I WAS GOING TO ASK, HOW CAN WE GET OUR HANDS ON THAT LOG? WE COULD JUST REQUEST IT.

SO PART OF THE WORKSHOP THAT Y'ALL SUGGESTED WITH THEM IS, YOU KNOW, LET'S REVIEW IN THE LAST OR SINCE, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING OF THE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST YEAR AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS, WHERE THEY ARE, WHAT THEY ARE.

YOU KNOW, THE REPEAT COMPLAINTS BY CUSTOMERS.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO AN AREA.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL EVEN KEEPING A LOG.

I MEAN, NOBODY'S ACTUALLY CHECKED THIS.

YEAH, WE'LL GO ASK THEM AND WE'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU WHAT THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS WERE.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

STILL STUCK HERE BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM 3 AND A HALF PERCENT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY RECOURSE AT THIS MOMENT.

BUT I DO THINK THEY'RE ON THE HOT SEAT AND THEY NEED TO PROVIDE THEY NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH US.

SHOW US THE LOG.

I WANT TO I THINK THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO SEE THE CONTRACT AGAIN AND HAVE MAYBE A SIT DOWN WITH THE STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTRACT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND THEN HAVE MAYBE A CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK AND SEE, YOU KNOW, ANY RECOURSE WE HAVE FINANCIALLY ON ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE.

BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GOING TO RAISE THE RATES ON THE CITIZENS, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS ARE GETTING THEIR MONEY'S WORTH.

SO I GUESS THAT'S MY MOTION.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210209-009 AMENDING THE

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CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER NINE.

AND SUBJECT TO US HAVING ALL THE REVIEW, THE LOG, THE CONTRACT REVIEW IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS.

I HAVE A MOTION.

CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

SORRY, SO YOU'RE SAYING SUBJECT TO SO ARE YOU WANTING THAT TO HAPPEN BEFORE IT'S APPROVED .

OR ARE YOU? I WOULD LIKE IT TO, BUT I GUESS I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO NOT SAY SUBJECT TO, BUT PROVIDING THAT WE GET THE FINAL WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ALL THIS.

SO BASICALLY APPROVE WHAT'S PRESENTED, BUT THEN ALSO WE'RE GOING TO ACTION ITEMS EMPOWER THE CITY, TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH COUNCIL TO ASK ALL THESE OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

SO I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'M GLAD THAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WAS JUST AS HESITANT TO APPROVE THIS AS ME.

I HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND.

WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS WE GET IS USUALLY IS OUR GARBAGE PICK UP.

THAT'S THE ONE THING PEOPLE TELL ME ABOUT ALL THE TIME.

NOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABIDING BY CUSTOMER SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'RE RESPONSIBLE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET US ON THE RIGHT PATH WITH OUR BUSINESS PARTNER.

I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE LARRY SAID, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S RUNNING, THROWING A PERFECT GAME HERE.

OK, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, LIFE HAPPENS, MISTAKES ARE MADE.

BUT I WANT TO SEE THAT LOG BECAUSE.

YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

WE'RE NOT BLIND.

WE CAN DRIVE DOWN THE STREETS AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND NOT GOING ON.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I COULD REFERENCE OTHER CITIES THAT I'M PERSONALLY AWARE OF DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES.

YES, OK.

I'M SURE THEY HAVE ISSUES BUT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE MAGNITUDE OF THE ISSUES THAT [INAUDIBLE] HAVE BEEN ENCOUNTERED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

I AGREE.

WASTE CONNECTIONS WAS GREAT WHEN THEY FIRST TOOK OVER? REPUBLIC WAS GREAT.

I DON'T REMEMBER US HAVING MANY ISSUES WITH REPUBLIC, BUT LATELY, WASTE COLLECTIONS IS JUST.

WELL, I WOULD PROBABLY SAFE TO SAY THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY LISTENING OR WILL LISTEN TO THIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO PERK THEIR EARS UP TO STEP UP AGAIN.

SO BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE'RE WATCHING, OUR RESIDENTS ARE WATCHING.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS ANY OTHER.

HEARING NONE.

THANK YOU, GUYS.

MOVING ALONG TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS.

[21. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210209-021 rezoning an approximate 7.22 acres from Chapter 28, Article III, Zoning Section 28-54 Manufactured Home (MH) District to the Chapter 28, Article III, Section 28-60 Light Industrial (LI) District of the City of Angleton, Texas Code of Ordinances; providing a severability clause; providing for a penalty; and providing for repeal and effective date.]

NUMBER TWENTY ONE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210209-021, REZONING AN APPROXIMATE 7.22 ACRES OF CHAPTER TWENTY EIGHT, ARTICLE THREE, ZONING SECTION 28-54 MANUFACTURED HOMES, ALSO KNOWN AS M.H.

DISTRICT TO THE CHAPTER 28 ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 28-60 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, ALSO KNOWN AS L.I.

DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS CODE OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY AND PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

[INAUDIBLE] IT'S ALL YOURS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO THIS WAS HEARD AT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY 4TH.

AND BASICALLY THE APPLICANT, MR. MANUEL GONZALEZ, REQUESTED A ZONING DISTRICT CHANGE FROM MANUFACTURED HOMES TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

HE HAS A MOTIVATION THERE TO CREATE SMALL HOMES WITH A LARGE SHOP.

AND THE DISTRICT WAS THAT HE WAS REQUESTING TO CHANGE WAS NOT THE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR HIS USE.

OH, I CAN HEAR MYSELF A LOT BETTER NOW.

SO PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED.

THEY DENIED HIS REQUEST AND RECOMMENDED HE COME BACK WITH A SITE PLAN AS WELL AS A REQUEST TO REZONE AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AS THAT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT.

SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF ME, THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. GONZALEZ.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT SECOND BY IS THAT COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

I APOLOGIZE GUYS.

MY EARS ARE PLUGGED TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE ALLERGIES, SO I MAY HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE MR. GONZALEZ HERE.

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RIGHT, CORRECT.

SO, MR. GONZALEZ, THE PODIUM IS YOURS.

PLEASE, SIR.

MANUEL GONZALEZ.

58 I TELL YOU WHAT, SINCE YOU'RE AT THE MICROPHONE BY YOURSELF, YOU CAN PULL DOWN YOUR MASK SO WE CAN HEAR A LITTLE BIT BETTER, IF YOU'D LIKE.

THAT IS ALLOWED DURING COVID.

AND CAN I APPROACH, COUNCIL TO .

YOU SURE CAN.

AND I DON'T KNOW YOU GUYS WANT ME TO READ OR DO Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO YOU CAN JUST GIVE US A SECOND TO KIND OF SCAN OVER IT.

I JUST GAVE YOU GUYS JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES AND THEN WE WILL ALLOW MR. GONZALES TO SPEAK TO US.

AND THEN, MR. MCGILL, YOU HAVE YOUR.

YOUR MR. MCGILL.

GIFT.

I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU OUT OVER THERE.

ALL RIGHT, MR. GONZALEZ, THE PODIUM IS YOURS FOR A FEW MINUTES TO TELL US WHY YOU'RE FOR THIS PROJECT.

YES SIR BASICALLY YOU KNOW I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FROM A MR. [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT HERE.

AND MY MAIN THING WAS TO BUILD MY PERSONAL HOME AND A SHOP.

AND I HAVE AN ONLINE BUSINESS AND WE DO JUST 100 PERCENT SALE ONLINE.

AND I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD RUN MY BUSINESS FROM THE SHOP.

AND I HAVE GONE TO A CITY AND I GOT A PERMIT TO BUILD ONE HUNDRED BY SEVENTY FIVE FOOT SHOP.

BUT THEN I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, GO BACK AND MAKE SURE I CAN RUN THE BUSINESS OUT OF THERE, NOT JUST FOR PERSONAL PROJECTS.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I REALLY, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR.

I DON'T KNOW SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I KNOW LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SEEMS A LITTLE TO ME, YOU KNOW, GOING FROM RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

IT MIGHT I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNED WITH IT OPENING UP, YOU KNOW, FOR OTHER, YOU KNOW, STUFF IN THE FUTURE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW, WE CAN OR NOT, BUT I'LL BE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, COME, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT THAT IF I EVER SELL THE PROPERTY THAT I WOULD HAVE TO [INAUDIBLE].

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

TAKE IT BACK TO RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE THAT IS MY INTENT, JUST TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, RUN MY ONLINE BUSINESS.

AND ALSO, IF I GET APPROVED BY THE STATE TO BUILD A HUD CERTIFIED SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, MOBILE HOMES OR SINGLE WIDE.

AND THAT'S WHY MY SHOP IS 100 BY SEVENTY FIVE BECAUSE I APPLIED FOR THE LICENSE.

BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I'M GOING TO GET IT OR NOT.

BUT IT'S A MATTER OF FACT I'M ABOUT TO APPLY FOR THE LICENSE.

I ALREADY DID ALL THE OTHER STUFF I'M GOING TO SEND IT OFF THIS WEEK.

SO IF I DO GET APPROVED THEN I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A, YOU KNOW, HUD CERTIFIED HOME THERE INSIDE THE SHOP ITSELF.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU JUST HAVE YOUR PERSONAL HOME THERE RIGHT NOW CORRECT.

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AS OF RIGHT NOW, I JUST HAVE A MOBILE HOME THERE BECAUSE I HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I WAS PLANNING TO BUILD THE SHOP, MOVE THE FAMILY TO THE MOBILE HOME.

YOU KNOW, ONCE FINANCES CATCH UP, BUILD MY PERSONAL HOUSE THERE.

BUT I WOULD BE LIVING IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE MOBILE HOME.

THE MOBILE HOME OK.

SO I DID BUY THE MOBILE HOME AND I DID INSTALL IT.

AND IT'S NOT ALL THE UTILITIES THAT ARE NOT CONNECTED YET BECAUSE I KIND OF DON'T WANT TO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO, SO I DON'T WANT TO DUMP MORE MONEY INTO IT.

WHERE AT THE END THEY ARE LIKE HEY I HARDLY ENDED UP BUYING THE SHOP, YOU KNOW.

SO I HAVE THAT [INAUDIBILITY].

I WENT AHEAD AND I PUT IT STATIONED IN [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE MEANTIME BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE IF I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BLESSING OF BEING ABLE TO RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF IT.

AND SO WE UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A DREAM TO LIVE ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU WORK AT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT MY HEAD AROUND IT.

SO YOU SAID YOU WANT TO BUILD A HUD HOME A TRAILER HOME, RIGHT.

HOW BIG WILL THESE TRAILER HOMES BE AGAIN.

THE BIGGEST WOULD BE LIKE MAYBE 16 WIDE BY 76.

AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE STATE IS GOING TO GIVE ME THE, YOU KNOW, THE LICENSE TO BUILD THEM, YOU KNOW, BUT IF THEY DO I WOULD PROBABLY BUILD MAYBE ONE A MONTH AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE EVERY SIX WEEKS, IT JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T BE [INAUDIBLE] JUST THEY'D ALREADY BE LIKE SOLD SO ONCE I FINISH TAKE THEM YOU KNOW, UP TO HOUSTON AND WHATNOT AND, YOU KNOW, SELL THEM THERE AT LOTS AND GOTCHA.

YOU WOULD BUILD IT.

I'M SORRY ONE MORE.

SO YOU WOULD BUILD IT THERE AND THEY PULL IT OUT, SEND IT ON ITS WAY AND THEN START ANOTHER PROJECT.

AND THAT'S LIKE MY MAIN GOAL, WHICH I LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, IF THE STATE'S EVEN GOING TO APPROVE ME TO DO THAT.

BUT MY ONLINE BUSINESS, THAT'S AN ON IT'S ACTUALLY WE'RE DOING IT NOW.

SO THAT'S A CURRENT BUSINESS THAT I HAVE.

AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE A LEADING QUESTION.

WHAT IS YOUR ONLINE? WHAT DO YOU IF I WAS TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU MAKE FOR ME, WHAT WOULD YOU MAKE? WE MAKE LIKE IT'S CALLED PIPELINERSCLOUD.COM.

YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ON THE INTERNET AND WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF WELDING SUPPLIES AND, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST BASIC WELDING SUPPLIES THAT WE SPECIALIZE IN UMBRELLA'S, WELDING UMBRELLAS AND JUST KIND OF LIKE UMBRELLA HOLDERS AND MORE KIND OF LIKE FOR GEARED TOWARDS THE PIPELINE WELDERS.

WELL, YOU KNOW, SO IT WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE LIKE A FLATBED TRUCK OR LIKE A TRACTOR TRAILER COMING IN AND OUT.

YES, IT WOULD BE YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, BUT IT WOULD YOU KNOW, 18 WHEELERS WOULD HAVE TO GO IN.

FOR YOUR NORMAL BUSINESS NOW OR FOR THE HUD HOME TRAILERS.

WELL FOR NORMAL BUSINESS NOW.

BUT WHAT I DO, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WORK IN YOU KNOW DIFFERENT AREAS.

SO I GOT A BUDDY IN FREEPORT.

HE HAS A SHOP.

SO I YOU KNOW, SET UP THE PICK UPS AT HIS SHOP.

SO I JUST GO DROP THEM OFF AND GET THEM ON PALLETIZED AND YOU KNOW, THEY GO AND PICK THEM UP THERE AND FOR THE FOR THE MANUFACTURED HOME I'M ASSUMING.

WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WHEN THEY DROP MATERIAL OFF I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE AN 18 WHEELER.

AND ALSO GETTING IT OUT OF THERE.

I THINK COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND HAD I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS.

YOU DON'T INTEND TO PUT THE HUD HOMES ON THIS PROPERTY? NO SIR.

OKAY YOU WANT TO BUILD THEM AND THEN TAKE THEM TO WHEREVER IF YOU GET THE PERMISSION FROM THE STATE.

IF I GET THE PERMISSION FROM THE STATE.

AND LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE HUD CERTIFIED WHERE, YOU KNOW, NOWADAYS THEY'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FINANCING THEM EASIER AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO IT AIN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, BUILD HOUSES BEFORE IN THE FREEPORT AREA.

SO I KIND OF YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH BUILDING, YOU KNOW, ON SITE HOMES.

SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A DEMAND FOR ME BUYING THAT MOBILE HOME.

I SEEN THAT THERE WAS A DEMAND FOR, YOU KNOW, THE MOBILE HOME.

SO I KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MADE ME EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO WANT TO TRY TO GET THAT STATE LICENSE AND TRY TO PURSUE THAT.

IT DOES CONCERN ME THE TRYING TO GET A HUD MOBILE HOME DOWN PHILLIPS, AND IF YOU'RE DOING ONE A MONTH OR JUST THE LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE THAT'S GOING TO BE PLUS THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THAT STREET, WHICH ISN'T REALLY MADE FOR 18 WHEELERS, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN OF MINE.

BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU ALSO IS AROUND P&Z WHEN YOU PRESENTED IT, P&Z, THEY SAID THAT THEY DENIED IT AND SAID COME BACK WITH A PD A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

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DOES THAT CONCERN YOU AT ALL? BECAUSE I KNOW I LISTEN AT THE P&Z MEETING AND I HEARD THEY SEEMED VERY RECEPTIVE AND WANTED TO HELP YOU, BUT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS DONE WITHIN THE RIGHT FRAMEWORK, THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, THAT IT WOULD REVERT BACK, THAT THEY HAD SOME THAT NOTHING COULD JUST GO IN THERE.

LIKE WHAT WAS IT THEY SAID LIKE A RECORD SHOP OR SOMETHING.

THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME CONTROL OVER IT.

AND IN THIS FORMAT, IT'S NOT.

AND I THINK THAT WAS THE BIG THING FROM P&Z.

BUT IT IS YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WERE ASKING.

DID YOU GET CLARIFICATION.

MAYBE I PROBABLY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION.

BUT IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, I WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ON BOARD WHERE I COULDN'T DO NOTHING ELSE.

JUST KIND OF LIKE SPECIFICALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO PRESENT.

YEAH, I MEAN, THE ONLINE STORE DOESN'T BOTHER ME AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IT'S TRYING TO GET MOBILE HOMES DOWN THAT ROAD AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE THOSE DITCHES ARE DEEP AND IT'S A VERY NARROW ROAD.

AND I KNOW SPEAKING TO A NEIGHBOR, I WENT AROUND AND I SPOKE TO A FEW OF THE NEIGHBORS.

I GOT LIKE FOUR SIGNATURES THAT THEY APPROVED.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU.

BUT ONE OF THEM, MR. MIKAWA, HE HAS HIS LAND KIND THE BACKS OF TO MINE AND HE HITS THAT OTHER ROAD.

IT'S WHAT'S THAT OTHER ROAD.

THERE'S [INAUDIBLE] OVER THERE.

SHANKS? YES.

HE SAID HE WOULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, SELLING ME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS TO MAKE MY, YOU KNOW, MY ENTRANCE THROUGH THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO HIM, HE'S LIKE, THIS IS A BIGGER ROAD.

AND IT GOES, YOU KNOW, HITS 220, I BELIEVE.

SO I THINK I'M HEARING FROM COUNCIL IS TONIGHT, WE HAVE ONE THING PRESENTED TO US THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK, BUT THERE'S MAYBE AN OPTION THAT YOU JUST NEED TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS WITH OUR CITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THIS PD AND SEE, OK, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THAT YOU CAN DRAW, THAT THEY CAN HELP YOU DRAW UP, THAT MAYBE GETS YOU TO THAT PD FOR THE FUTURE PROTECTION OF THAT LAND SHOULD IT SELL IN THE FUTURE? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THEN SOME OTHER LOGISTICAL THINGS.

SO WE'RE NOT HERE TO BUST YOUR BUBBLE JUST YET.

WE JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S A PLAN THAT WE CAN MAKE IT WORK IF IT CAN WORK.

BUT THERE MAY BE A PATH FORWARD FOR YOU, BECAUSE TONIGHT WE'RE ONLY PRESENTED WITH WHAT'S TONIGHT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

IT MAY TAKE, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR, SIX WEEKS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE END.

THIS ISN'T THE DEAL BREAKER HERE.

THERE MAY BE AN OPTION BY MEETING WITH MS.. I JUST DREW A BLANK.

LINDSAY.

WITH CITY STAFF AND THEY CAN.

CAN'T SAY HER LAST NAME, BUT ANYWAY, JUST BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT EVERYBODY AROUND AND THEN ALSO YOU AS WELL FOR THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW.

OK, SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN.

I'LL GET WITH LINDSAY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M FIXING TO DO SO.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE.

I'M GOING TO GIVE THE PODIUM TO SOMEBODY ELSE, LET THEM COME UP.

OK, SO IF WE CAN GET MR. MCGILL.

MR. MCGILL, THE PODIUM IS YOURS.

YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS REQUEST.

THANK YOU, I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AT 227 EAST PHILLIPS AND I AM HERE TO OPPOSE THE REZONING OF IT.

THIS HAS BEEN A RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR I'VE BEEN HERE TWENTY ONE YEARS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER THAN THAT IT'S BEEN THERE.

I, TOO, WENT AND SPOKE TO SEVERAL NEIGHBORS ON MY STREET, NOT ON SHANK'S, BUT ON MY STREET.

AND I WAS HOPING THAT MORE OF THEM WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT BUT THEY ARE NOT, BUT THEY WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT.

WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S 60 TO 70 FOOT LONG.

PHILLIPS ROAD HAS A VERY DEEP DISH.

IT'S A STEEP DROP OFF.

THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF TIMES AN THE LOCAL WRECKER DRIVERS AROUND HERE CAN ATTEST TO IT THAT THEY'VE HAD TO PULL VEHICLES OUT OF THE DITCH BECAUSE ONCE YOU DROP THE WHEEL OFF, IT JUST PULLS YOU RIGHT ON IN.

AND IT'S LIKE A SIX OR SEVEN FOOT.

IT'S NOT A WIDE ROAD.

SHANKS ISN'T EITHER, FOR THAT MATTER.

BUT THE ONLY ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY IS STRICTLY FROM PHILLIPS ROAD.

AND IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S IF THERE'S A LARGE TRUCK, A DUMP TRUCK, EVEN A DOOLY, SOMETIMES COMING OUT THAT ROAD, YOU HAVE TO STOP AND GIVE THAT, LET THEM COME BY TO EVEN PASS YOU.

SO NOT ONLY THAT, I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER PASTURE LANDS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE THAT PEOPLE HAVE FOR AGRICULTURE USES AND THINGS OVER THE TIME THAT THOSE TWO YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS THE PAST, THEY COULD SAY, HEY, I CAN SELL MY PROPERTY HERE AND PUT A BUSINESS IN.

AND SO THOSE OF US THAT ARE STILL STAYING THERE, WE WIND UP WITH A LOT OF INDUSTRY ON OUR STREET, WHICH OPENS THE DOOR FOR POSSIBLY WORKING 24 HOURS A DAY, NOISY CONSTRUCTION OR JUST WHATEVER LIGHT INDUSTRY.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT FALL UNDER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

SO THAT'S I THINK ONCE YOU SET THE PRECEDENCE EVEN IF HE WAS TO SIGN SOMETHING SAYING IT WOULD RESORT BACK, I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY THAT IS.

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I THINK ONCE YOU SET A PRECEDENCE AND YOU LET SOMETHING TAKE PLACE, I BELIEVE THAT OPENS THE DOOR TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME IN AND FIGHT THAT AND SAY HE DID IT.

I SHOULD BE ABLE TO ALSO, ONCE AGAIN, THESE STREETS ARE NARROW.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF VEHICLES GO OFF THE EDGE OF THEM.

THESE TWO [INAUDIBLE] THIS MAN KNOWS THAT MY NEIGHBOR DOWN THE STREET WAS KILLED IN MY DRIVEWAY RIDING A BICYCLE IN MY DRIVEWAY AS A CAR HIT HIM BECAUSE THEY'RE SO NARROW.

LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE LAST SO, WITH THOSE IN MIND, I'M JUST HERE TO TO OPPOSE.

I'M SORRY THAT IF HE'S MADE THIS INVESTMENT, I DON'T WANT HIM TO NOT SUCCEED IN ANY WAY.

I DO THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU NEED TO ALSO LOOK AHEAD OF TIME TO SEE IF YOU'VE GOT TO PUT A BUSINESS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU YOU WANT TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, IF YOU CAN OR NOT.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT THIS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL STEP ASIDE.

BUT I AM OPPOSED TO THIS.

THANK YOU SIR.

SO ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON OR FOR OR AGAINST? ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE IT.

MAYOR I MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'LL SECOND IT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

SECOND, BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN WITH THAT MOTION CARRIES.

SO, COUNCIL, THERE IS AN ACTION ITEM THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT OF THIS.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE SAME STANCE AS P&Z AND DENY THE REZONE AT THIS TIME, BUT ASK MR. MANUEL TO GO BACK TO THE CHANNELS AND DO HIS DILIGENCE WITH REGARDS TO A PD AND THEN COME BACK TO US.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN YEAH GO AHEAD.

DID SOMEBODY? OH SORRY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

HOPE TO SEE YOU COME BACK TO US AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

ITEM NUMBER 22 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSS A POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL

[22. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action on the Final Replat of the King Subdivision being Lots 3-7 and part of Lot 8 of Block 1, D.B. Jamison Addition.]

REPLAT OF THE KING SUBDIVISION BEING LOTS THREE THROUGH SEVEN AND PART OF LOT EIGHT OF BLOCK ONE POINT D B JAMISON ADDITION.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS LINDSAY KOSKINIEMI.

I DIDN'T INTRODUCE MYSELF EARLIER, FOR THOSE PEOPLE ONLINE.

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

I APOLOGIZED.

I KNOW THAT'S FOR THE PEOPLE ONLINE WHO CAN'T SEE ME.

AND I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE FINAL REPLAT OF THE KING SUBDIVISION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 4TH.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OK, WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM NUMBER TWENTY TWO.

SECOND CALL, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 22.

THIRD CALL COUNCIL.

MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

MAYOR I MOVE WE APPROVE THE FINAL REPLAT OF KING SUBDIVISION.

COUNCIL.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY WAS IT GONGORA.

COUNCILMAN SVOBODA SORRY, YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? [LAUGHTER] Y'ALL LAUGH BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET OLD, LIKE IT'S THE SINUSES, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

NUMBER 23, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE

NUMBER 22 PASSED.

[23. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action on the Preliminary Replat of the Style Subdivision with a variance to the sidewalk requirement of Chapter 23, Section 23-14.A Sidewalks of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Angleton.]

PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE STYLE SUBDIVISION WITH A VARIANCE TO THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENT OF CHAPTER 23, SECTION 23-14.A SIDEWALKS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

MS. LINDSAY, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A PRELIMINARY REPLAT REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENT ON WEST MILLER STREET.

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THAT'S THREE LOTS AND THE AREA RIGHT THERE, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY WELL AWARE, HAS OPEN DITCHES.

AND THE REASON THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT IS BECAUSE IT WOULD PRESENT A LOT OF DIFFICULTY AND RETROFITTING, SO TO SPEAK, THAT AREA TO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT STANDARDS TODAY WHEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ORIGINALLY LAID OUT, THIS WAS EARLY 1900.

SO IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT TODAY.

SO THIS THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS VARIANCE BE SUPPORTED.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

WHAT WAS P&Z'S.

OK, SO WE NEED A.

SO LET'S OPEN IT.

WE'VE GOT TO GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.

I AGREE WITH YOU MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA.

HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES? WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER TWENTY THREE.

I JUST LOST MY SPOT, SECOND CALL, ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM TWENTY THREE.

MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MADE A MOTION TO CLOSE IT.

THANK YOU HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND.

BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES.

OK, SO NOW WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM TO COME OUT OF THIS COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

GO AHEAD YEAH.

WHAT WAS THIS MOTION OR DID THIS GO BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR STAFF TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS.

AND LET ME GET BACK TO YOU.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY SUPPORTED IT.

THAT THEY WHAT? THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A MEETING RECOMMENDS FIVE IN FAVOR ZERO OPPOSED DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE.

SO SUBJECT TO THE CITY ENGINEERS COMMENTS THAT ARE CLEAR WITH ANY FINAL REPLAT.

AND I WATCHED THE P&Z MEETING AND THE DISCUSSION, THAT P&Z'S TAKING CUES FROM THIS COUNCIL.

I AGREE.

AND THEY MADE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IN THE P&Z MEETING TALKING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL REALLY STOOD UP WHENEVER MR. HALL WAS DOING HIS SUBDIVISION.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE MADE THE DISCUSSION POINT OF, WELL, WE'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.

SO WE WERE STARTING THEN.

AND SO THEY FOLLOWED OUR LEAD AND THEY HELD THEM ON THIS ONE TO THE SAME TO DENY THE VARIANCE.

SO ONE THING THAT CONCERNED ME IN THE P&Z MEETING, THOUGH, WAS OUR DEVELOPMENT SUPERVISOR, MR. REEVES.

MR. REEVES SAID THAT THERE WAS NOTHING PLANNED ON MILLER.

AND I KNOW WE HAD HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT PUSHING THE SIDEWALK OFF OF LOOP 274 AND DOWN MILLER.

AND SO IN MY MIND, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS P&Z'S HAD, IS WHY WOULD WE PUT THIS SIDEWALK IN ON THE FRONT SIDE AND THEN IT GO NOWHERE.

BUT IT REALLY ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE.

IT'S GOING SOMEWHERE BECAUSE WE HAD PLANS TO PUSH IT DOWN TO LOOP 274.

SO THAT WAS SAFE PASSAGE TO THERE.

BUT ONE THING I'M CONFUSED ABOUT IS IN OUR MEETING NOTES HERE, IT SAYS FIVE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.

BUT I THOUGHT COMMISSIONER MUNSON OPPOSED IT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A FOUR TO ONE.

SO JUST MY NOTES ON I'M HAPPY TO REVIEW THE NOTES, THE MINUTES THAT WER TAKEN.

SO LET ME GET THIS CLEAR.

P&Z WENT AGAINST THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND DENIED THE VARIANCE.

DENIED THE VARIANCE.

ON A FOUR TO ONE IS WHAT YOU'RE POINTING OUT, AS OPPOSED TO BECAUSE JUST MAKING SURE I'M CLEAR.

WITH TWO ABSENT.

WITH TWO ABSENCE.

SO JUST TO COMMENT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE NEED TO FIX FOR THE FUTURE IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST YEAR WE'VE DONE A LOT OF SIDEWALK WORK, BOTH REPAIRING AND CONNECTING AND FIXING AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE JUST LIKE WE DO FOR STREET OVERLAYS, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL SIDEWALK PROGRAM.

BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE COMMENTS.

I'VE SEEN THEM ON FACEBOOK.

HEY, YOU GUYS FIXED THE SIDEWALK OVER HERE, BUT NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, YOU KNOW, HAD A COMPLAINT THE OTHER DAY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRAINS,

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SIDEWALKS AND ROADS ALL IN THE SAME CONVERSATION.

AND I'M KIND OF AT A LOSS TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE YOU KNOW, IF THIS ROAD'S A MAJOR CONNECTOR AND THIS ONE'S A WHATEVER, WE DON'T SAY LET'S DO MILLER STREET BECAUSE IT CONNECTS TO A TO B OR LET'S DO THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S UNDERSERVED AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY KIDS GET TO SCHOOL.

SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT, AGAIN, JUST LIKE OVERLAYS, WE CAN SAY, WELL, THIS IS OUR PRIORITY.

SO WE GET TRAFFIC ABILITY TO GET PEOPLE TO SCHOOLS.

NUMBER ONE SECOND IS, YOU KNOW, GLOBAL CENTER STUDY DOWNTOWN.

THIRD IS WHATEVER, AND THEN IDENTIFY WHAT THE STREETS ARE AND MAKE THE CONSCIOUS DECISION LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW HATE TO SAY THIS.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE IN A CUL DE SAC.

SO, YOU KNOW THE STREET, THE SIDEWALK THAT WILL BE ON THE NEXT STREET CONNECTS YOU TO THE SCHOOL.

AND WE'LL EVENTUALLY GET TO THAT.

BUT THAT'S NOT A PRIORITY.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S WHERE WE NEED TO GO SO WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT MILLER STREET OR ANY OTHER STREET, WE CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE IT'S PART OF A MASTER PLAN.

YEAH, I WANT TO SAY THE THE S WORD MEANING STUDY, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THAT, JOHN, BUT WE KIND OF NEED TO GET TO SOME POINT WHERE WE HAVE A PLAN TO SAY THIS IS OUR METHODOLOGY FOR PUTTING IN NEW SIDEWALKS.

SO WHEN WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS OR WHATEVER WE CAN SAY, YES, IT'S ON THE CITY PLAN.

AND SO WE WANT THEM TO PUT IT IN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO THAT.

AND TO MR. WHITTAKER'S POINT, ONCE YOU HAVE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPLETE AND IT'S ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE, IT REALLY MINIMIZES THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO DEVIATE FROM THAT, BECAUSE YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY SAY THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS AND THERE'S NO EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.

SO JUST TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE.

I'VE REALLY BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE, I REALIZED WE ALL HAVE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

JUST THE TYPICAL CROSS SECTION OF A DITCHED STREET IS SUCH THAT THE DRIVING SURFACE IS IN THE MIDDLE, A LITTLE BIT OF SHOULDER, AND THEN THE DITCH TAKES UP BASICALLY THE REST OF THE RIDE OF WAY.

SO ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE DITCH SLOPE COMES UP ALMOST TO THE PROPERTY LEVEL.

WELL, THERE IS NO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY LEFT TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN.

ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE A CURB AND GUTTER STREET AND YOU DON'T HAVE THESE DITCHES TO CONTEND WITH.

YOU COULD PUT A SIDEWALK IN LIKE WE WANT TO SEE.

YOU BUILD A SIDEWALK NEXT TO BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION HERE JUST RECENTLY, YOU GET ADA REQUIREMENTS.

YOU CAN'T JUST GO BUILD A SIDEWALK LIKE YOU OR I MIGHT BE ABLE TO WALK ON.

IT HAS TO BE ADA COMPLIANT AND THAT'S NOT BUT APPARENTLY, WHAT YOU BUILD THAT SIDEWALK NEXT TO, YOU BUILD A SIDEWALK ADJACENT TO A DEEP DITCH OR SOMETHING YOU'VE GOT TO PUT SOME PREVENTIVE MEASURES THERE SO SOMEONE DOESN'T ACCIDENTALLY DRIVE OFF ON THE SIDEWALK DRIVE OFF THE SIDEWALK INTO THE DITCH OR TOPPLE OVER IF THEY'RE USING THEIR WALKER.

AND FALL DOWN IN THE DEEP DITCHES.

WE FIND THINGS LIKE THAT ALL OVER TOWN.

WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER.

ON SO I DON'T MIS-SPEAK WHAT IT SAYS.

YOU MAY APPROVE A VARIANCE FROM THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS WHEN ENGINEERING CONSTRAINTS OR LOCAL CONDITIONS RESULT IN PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALK.

SO I'M GOING TO THROW OUT THE IDEA OF POSSIBLY FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, FOR FUTURE

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PURPOSES TODAY, MAYBE ASSESS A SIDEWALK, ESTABLISH A SIDEWALK ASSESSMENT, AND THAT IS JUST A THOUGHT.

THAT SIDEWALK ASSESSMENT IS ESCROWED SOMEWHERE AND SPECIFICALLY, IF EVER, WHENEVER THAT SIDEWALK IS BUILT THROUGH THERE, THAT MONEY IN FRONT OF JOHN Q PUBLIC'S PLACE IF THAT TO THINK ABOUT.

AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT AND THEY DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS THE CITY MAKES YOU MOST OF TIME PAY FOR THE CULVERT.

BUT THEY WANT TO PUT IT IN.

ARE WE WILLING TO PAY TO COME PUT THE CULVERTS IN THEN BACKFILL IT SO THEY CAN PUT A SIDEWALK.

AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE WHOLE LIKE HE SAID, YOU CAN'T JUST STOP AT THE END OF THE CULVERT.

SO I SEE WHY THE VARIANCE.

I MEAN, I SEE WHY THIS GUY WANTS A VARIANCE BECAUSE HE'S JUST GOING TO PUT A SIDEWALK INTO TWO YARDS.

AND THEN IT KNOW, IT JUST ENDS.

UNLESS YOU MAKE THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHO'S GOING TO PUT THE CULVERTS IN? WHO'S GOING TO BACKFILL IT? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO DIG OUT TO PUT THE CULVERT IN AND YOU GET DRAINAGE.

WHO'S FAMILIAR WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME [INAUDIBLE] IS THE TELEPHONE POLE, THE END OF THE PROPERTY LINE.

I DO, I HAVE THE GOOGLE MAP UP.

MY NAME IS MARTIN RODRIGUEZ AND YES, THE LIGHT POST, THE LIGHTPOST RIGHT THERE, THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS AT THERE'S FRONTAGE OF TWO HUNDRED AND I BELIEVE TWENTY FIVE FEET AND WE'RE TRYING TO SUBDIVIDE IT UP INTO THREE LOTS.

IT'S ALREADY THREE LOTS.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REPLOT THEM IN ORDER TO MEET THE STANDARDS FOR THE LOT SIZES.

AND THIS HOUSE IS.

IS THAT.

THERE WAS A RED BARN THERE AND THAT'S TORN DOWN.

AND WE TORE THAT DOWN AND THEN.

AND THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE SEEING IS, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE DITCH RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT.

AND THEN SO BASICALLY WE'D HAVE TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK ON THE PERSON'S PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE IS NO EASEMENT RIGHT NOW.

AND THE OTHER ISSUE WOULD BE SOMEBODY FALLING OR TRIPPING INTO THAT INTO THAT SMALL DRAINAGE DITCH.

SO BASICALLY, THAT IS THE CORRECT AMOUNT.

I MEAN.

THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU ON THAT IS IT'S THE DITCH, ISN'T THAT DEEP, RIGHT? CORRECT.

IT'S PRETTY SHALLOW RIGHT THERE.

IT STARTS GETTING DEEPER AS YOU GO WEST DOWN FURTHER DOWN THE STREET.

SO I CAN UNDERSTAND P&Z SAYING, OK, IT'S SHALLOW, WE PUT YOUR SIDEWALK IN, EVEN IF YOU COVERED IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND PUT CULVERTS IN, YOU CAN BECAUSE YOU HAVE QUITE HOW MANY YOU ARE PUTTING THREE LOTS TOGETHER.

WE'RE JUST REPLOTING THEM.

THERE'S THREE LOTS THERE.

THEY'RE JUST NOT THE CORRECT SIZE.

OK, SO HOW MUCH WILL WE ACTUALLY BE FILLING IN A DITCH.

APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR FEET.

P&Z SAID 100 FEET.

SEE THAT'S BECAUSE THEIR UNDERSTANDING WAS AND I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TIME TO COME TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM, BUT IT'S THREE LOTS, NOT TWO LOTS.

THE FIRST TWO LOTS MEASURE THE 50 FEET AND THEN THE THIRD LOT WOULD MEASURE ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE FEET.

BUT IT'S CUT DIAGONALLY BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY BELONGS TO THE RAILROAD TRACK.

MR. BOOTH, I LIKE YOUR IDEA BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU WERE PART OF BAKER LAWSON BACK IN THE DAY, BUT DIDN'T Y'ALL DO PLANS FOR MORE COMING UP WITH THE EXPANSION OF MILLER STREET.

INTERSECTION WHERE IT'S A PRETTY DANGEROUS SITUATION GOING AROUND A CORNER.

IT'S A DEEP DITCH, IT'S A IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

AND SO WE ASKED H.E.R TO LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK AT SOLUTIONS.

BUT SO WHEN JOHN PETERSON, AND I MET OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT JUST DURING

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PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS.

YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT WAS THE SAME THING.

SO LET'S FILL THE DITCH IN, LET'S PUT CULVERTS IN AND LET'S PUT A SIDEWALK ON TOP OF IT AND AND, YOU KNOW, START THAT PROCESS.

BUT THAT'S REALLY I THINK WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS THOSE CULVERTS NEED TO BE ENGINEERED AND FILLED IN TO ALLOW TO ENABLE THAT.

AND SO MAYBE THERE IS A PARTIAL SOLUTION OF MAYBE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, FIX THE DRAINAGE THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT ENABLES HIM TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS.

YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING, TOO, AND WE'D HAVE TO ENGINEER IT TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOT THE RIGHT SLOPE AND WHAT SIZE CULVERT AND.

WHAT DID YOU DO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MILLER.

WELL, BUT SO HERE'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.

WE LOOKED AT MILLER AND PARISH SO YOU CAN FIX THAT INTERSECTION, BUT THAT'S UPSTREAM.

SO IT GOES WEST.

SO IF YOU FIX UPSTREAM BUT YOU DON'T FIX DOWNSTREAM, YOU'RE JUST PUSHING A PROBLEM.

YOU'RE MAYBE CREATING A PROBLEM DOWNSTREAM.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD.

SO IT'S KIND OF DISCUSSION WE HAVE THAT'S PRELIMINARY.

NO I JUST I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THEIR HEADS TOGETHER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, LIKE MR. BOOTH SAID, IF THERE'S AN EASY ANSWER TO THIS, I DON'T THINK THERE IS.

AND WE CERTAINLY THINK A LOT OF US ON HERE, WELL I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRO'S, YOU KNOW, GET SOMETHING NEW GROWTH IN THAT AREA, SOMETHING NEW, SOMETHING FRESH IN THAT AREA AT THE SAME TIME.

I MEAN THAT BY YOUR DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO THINK WE'VE KIND OF.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY UNANIMOUS, BUT WE'VE ALL PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY, FOR US TO START KIND OF STANDING OUR GROUND ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

AND SOME OF THESE ISSUES INCLUDE SIDEWALKS.

AND IF TO ME, AS CHRIS HAS SUGGESTED, THAT SOMEHOW THERE CAN BE A WAY THE CITY CAN WORK WITH YOU, THAT YOU'RE NOT SOLELY CARRYING THE BURDEN, THAT'S THE CITY.

AND I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT ALL OF THE CITY BECAUSE, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'D JUST BENEFIT THAT AREA, BENEFIT THE CITY, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU DO YOUR THING AND THEN MAYBE WITH THE CITY'S HELP AND YOU DOING YOUR THING, THAT WHOLE AREA STARTS TO TAKE ON A LITTLE MORE LIFE AND PEOPLE FEEL, YOU KNOW, FEEL LIKE THAT'S A PLACE TO INVEST AND WHICH IS ALWAYS BETTER.

I MEAN, IF PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN YOUR COMMUNITIES.

BUT THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO A MILLER PARRISH INTERSECTION FIX, YOU KNOW, WE OUGHT TO PUT A SIDEWALK THERE WHEN WE FILL IT IN, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A SIDEWALK, WE'VE GOT TO DO OUR PART AS THE CITY.

SO WHY NOT FIX IT IN WHOLE AND NOT JUST DO A PARTIAL FIX WHEN WE JUST SOLVE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT DON'T SOLVE THE OTHER PROBLEM? I THINK I MEAN, THIS AREA DESERVES SOME ATTENTION WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING SURE WE INVEST IN WALKABILITY AND SOME OF THE AREAS.

AND THIS IS A PRIME CANDIDATE BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST SUBDIVISIONS OR FIRST AREAS THAT YOU ENTER COMING INTO THIS AREA, THAT IF WE COULD FIX IT AT THE FRONT END, THEN THAT KIND OF HELPS US GOING BACKWARDS.

LIKE YOU SAID, THE DRAINAGE STARTS AT THE FRONT AND PARRISH IS KIND OF A QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH THERE.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A SIDEWALK ON T.J.

WRIGHT.

COMING OUT TO MILLER.

AND SO MY THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, THE ASSESSMENT THAT COUNCILMAN BOOTH MENTIONED WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FOR ME PERSONALLY, WE FLIP IT TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD TIED IN TO TJ.

WRIGHT.

SO HE ONLY PAYS THE ASSESSMENT FOR HIS PROPERTY LINE, BUT WE FLIP IT TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH ALSO COINCIDES WITH WHERE THE PARRISH MILLER INTERSECTION PRETTY CLOSE TO IT.

AND THEN WE COULD TIE ALL THAT TOGETHER RIGHT THERE.

AND I THINK IT'S A WIN WIN BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF OPEN AREA.

AND THAT ONE HOUSE WAS JUST BUILT RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF TJ WRIGHT AND MILLER.

SO I THINK IF WE WERE DOING THAT ACCESS IT FLIP IT TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

JUST MY THOUGHTS OUTSIDE THE BOX TRYING TO THINK OF A SOLUTION.

PLUS, I LIKE WHAT P&Z DID.

I MEAN, AND LINDSAY, YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER, OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE GIVES VARIANCES ON ON CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DOWNING.

WE KNOW THAT DOWNING IS AN ISSUE AND THAT'S NOT A SAFE PLACE TP PUT A SIDEWALK, FOR THAT DITCH.

AND BUT IT SHOULD BE AN EXCEPTION.

AND HISTORICALLY IN ANGLETON, IT'S BEEN THE NORM TO GIVE A VARIANCE ON EVERYTHING.

AND WE HAVEN'T HELD PEOPLE TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS.

AND SO THE CITY'S HAVING TO FOOT THE BILL.

AND P&Z MADE THE COMMENT.

THE REST OF THE CITIZENS SHOULDN'T BE PAYING FOR ONE LITTLE AREA.

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IF DEVELOPERS PUTTING IT IN, THEY SHOULD BE PUTTING IT IN ON THEIR DIME.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN INSTEAD OF YOU PUTTING IT ON YOUR SIDE, WHICH ENCROACHES ON YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR PROPERTY LINES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP.

WE FLIP IT TO THE OTHER SIDE AND SEE AND WE KIND OF WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM ON THE PARRISH MILLER AND TYING IT INTO T.J.

WRIGHT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SLOW HIM DOWN WHILE WE FIGURE IT OUT.

SO I MEAN, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE AND I'M JUST SPEAKING OUT LOUD, BUT [INAUDIBLE] THE VARIANCE.

BUT AS A CITY YOU WANT TO DIRECT US TO LOOK AT SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA.

I LIKE HIM TO BE A PARTNER ON THE ASSESSMENT OF THE SIDEWALK, THE COST OF THE SIDEWALK, THAT HE WOULD BE PUTTING IT IN ON HIS SIDE.

WE JUST PUT ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR HIM.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER WRIGHT I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT, MAKE SURE THAT WE RUN THOSE TRAPS IN PREPARATION FOR SIGNATURES.

OK, WELL, WE HAD A MOTION THAT WAS IN OUR PACKET, AND SO I THINK WE'RE KIND OF GOING OUTSIDE OF THAT MOTION, SO.

WOULD THE JUST ASKING LINDSAY OR CHRIS WOULD THE BETTER IDEA BE TO DENY IT PRESENTLY WITH THE IDEA THAT SHE WOULD TURN BACK AFTER HAVING SOME SORT OF CONFERENCE AND ADDRESSING THAT SITUATION AND COME BACK WITH A MORE DEFINED, PLAN IF YOU WILL.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST TO KEEP IT CLEAN, IS THAT YOU EITHER APPROVE OR DENY THE VARIANCE REQUEST AND THEN GUIDANCE TO STAFF IS SEE IF WE CAN FIND A WORK HE'S STILL GOT TO GO THROUGH REPLATTING IT RIGHT, EVEN IF WE APPROVE THE VARIANCE HOW WOULD THAT WORK.

DO WE LOSE OUR TEETH THOUGH? I MEAN, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY REPLAT.

SO THERE'S A FINAL REPLAT THAT HAS TO COME BACK TO US.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL WOULD BE TO DENY THE VARIANCE REQUEST AND WE UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION IS TO ADDRESS THIS MATTER IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY THROUGH A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.

AND THIS IS JUDITH.

I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE NOT.

OK, DON'T FORGET.

I WON'T.

MR. MAYOR STEPPED OUT AT 7:45.

I'M GOING TO SAY SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK, DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL.

IF YOU APPROVE THE PLAT, THEY STILL GOT TO GO THROUGH PERMITTING.

THIS IS PRELIMINARY.

THIS IS APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT.

SO I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN.

PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSED.

NOW COUNCIL LETS TAKE ACTION ON THE ITEM.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE VARIANCE TO SECTION 23-14.

WE DO ASK, SAY THE WHOLE THING SIDEWALKS AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY REPLAT OF THE STYLE SUBDIVISION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THE CITY'S ENGINEERS RECOMMEND EXCUSE ME, CITY'S ENGINEERS COMMENDS BE CLEARED WITH ANY FINAL REPLAT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR DENYING OF THE VARIANCE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL SAY I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND FIND A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD THAT IS ACCEPTABLE FOR BOTH PARTIES.

AND I THINK THE CITY, I THINK, WILL STEP UP ON OUR SIDE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS AN AREA THAT COULD UTILIZE SOME ATTENTION FROM THE CITY.

YEP.

TO EXPAND A BIT MORE.

I THINK WHEN DEVELOPERS COME AND DEVELOP NEW LOTS, I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUY

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A NEW LOT A NEW HOUSE.

YOU NEED A SIDEWALK SOMEWHERE IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE.

I THINK IT IS GOOD PRACTICE TO DO.

I MEAN, WE'RE STEADILY TYING STUFF UP WHERE THINGS ARE THE MISSING SIDEWALK OUT HERE AT 35, YOU JUST PUSH THROUGH.

I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING TO IT.

SO AS LONG AS THEY DO THEIR PART AND HELP, WE CAN TIE IN AND GET THIS DONE A LOT FASTER.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL.

SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER REGULAR AGENDA 24 PRESENTATION OF THE JANUARY 2021 COLLECTION

[24. Presentation of the January 2021 Collection Report by Perdue Brandon Fielder Collins & Mott, LLP.]

REPORT BY PERDUE BRANDON FIELDER COLLINS & MOTT, LLP.

GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.

MIKE [INAUDIBLE] WITH PERDUE BRANDON.

ALL MY AUDIENCE IS GONE.

OH YEAH.

WE PUT YOU AT THE FRONT.

YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A FULL HOUSE.

I KNOW, WELL I HAD A REALLY LONG PRESENTATION.

BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO LIKE NARROW IT WAY DOWN.

AND THEN OF COURSE I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DOWN THE ROAD.

AS YOU KNOW, WE COLLECT YOUR DELINQUENT TAXES, YOUR COURT FINES AND FEES, YOUR OUTSTANDING MOWING AND DEMOLITION LIENS.

AND IF YOU EVER DECIDE TO DO A SIDEWALK ASSESSMENT, AND IT GOES DELINQUENT.

GIVE ME A CALL [LAUGHTER] MAYBE I CAN COLLECT THAT FOR YOU AS WELL.

I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT FROM A DELINQUENT TAX STANDPOINT, WE'RE REALLY IN GOOD SHAPE.

LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

MAYBE NOT WELL AS I'M FIGURING OUT HOW I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THERE WE GO.

SO LAST YEAR, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WAS QUITE A YEAR AS WE'RE CONTINUING INTO TWENTY, TWENTY ONE WITH COVID.

AND IT DEFINITELY HAD AN IMPACT ON OUR COLLECTION ACTIVITY.

SINCE I MET WITH YOU LAST YEAR, IT'S HAD AN IMPACT IN COLLECTIONS.

WE'LL SEE MORE FOR THE TWENTY TWENTY TAX COLLECTION YEAR.

THIS IS THE ONE.

PERFECT.

WHAT KIND OF AN IMPACT IT HAS FOR YOU FOR PURPOSES OF YOUR DELINQUENT TAXES.

WE'VE GOT ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND OF BASE TAX THAT'S OWED FOR ALL YEARS THROUGH TWENTY NINETEEN.

WE'RE ALREADY HALFWAY THROUGH THE COLLECTION OF THAT CYCLE.

AFTER THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS OF COVID WE GOT BACK AFTER IT AND STARTED MAKING MORE PHONE CALLS, DID OUR MAILINGS.

LAST JULY, WE FILED SOME LAWSUITS.

WE'VE HAD TAX SALES ALMOST EVERY MONTH SINCE JUNE.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT SIGNED UP ON OUR WEBSITE AT PBFCM.COM, YOU GET EMAIL UPDATES OF OUR TAX SALES.

OUR NEXT SALE WILL BE IN APRIL.

OUR LAST SALE WAS LAST TUESDAY AND EVERYTHING BUT ONE PIECE THAT WE HAD SCHEDULED FOR SALE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY GOT PAID IN ADVANCE, WHICH IS A GREAT RESULT, THOUGH, BECAUSE MARCH 2ND IS TEXAS INDEPENDENCE DAY AND THE COUNTY IS CLOSED? SO WE'RE NOT HAVING A TAX SALE THAT DAY.

SO APRIL SIX WILL BE OUR NEXT SCHEDULED TAX SALE.

SO IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'LL HAVE NOTICES POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE, NOTICES OUT TO ADJOINING LANDOWNERS OF ANY PROPERTY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR SALE.

SO LET ME JUST POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THIS FIRST PIE CHART FOR YOU.

OF THE ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND THAT IS OWED, I THINK AN INTERESTING POINT FOR YOU.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN PORTION OF THE PIE CHART, WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S INVOLVED IN DEFERRALS.

AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE OVER 65 AND IT'S YOUR HOMESTEAD, YOU CAN DEFER THE PAYMENT OF YOUR TAXES UNTIL YOU PASS AWAY OR SELL THE PROPERTY OR NO LONGER CLAIM IT AS YOUR HOMESTEAD.

WE MONITOR THESE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO MAKE SURE WHEN PEOPLE PASS AWAY, IF THEY DO THAT, THEIR HEIRS REALIZE THE OBLIGATION THEY HAVE TO PAY.

SOMETIMES MOM AND DAD LEAVE THE PROPERTY, THINK, OH, MAN, I GOT THIS GREAT PROPERTY.

THEN THEY GET A NOTICE FROM THE TAX OFFICE OF DELINQUENT TAXES LIKE, OH, WELL, IT WASN'T SUCH A NICE PRESENT AFTER ALL.

SO WE WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE IN THOSE SITUATIONS AND TRY TO GET THEM TO PAY.

BUT IN THE INTERIM, WE DON'T CONTACT PEOPLE THAT HAVE DEFERRALS AT ALL.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT, OF COURSE, TO PAY IF THEY WANT.

BUT OTHERWISE THEY'RE NOT HEARING FROM PERDUE BRANDON, ABOUT THEIR DELINQUENT TAXES.

THE OTHER COMMENT I'LL MAKE FOR YOU IS RED PORTION, WHICH IS 38 PERCENT OF OUR ROLE, AND I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT OF THAT, THE LARGEST ACCOUNT OWES US EIGHTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS OF BASE TAX.

SO NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S OWED THOSE PEOPLE WE ARE REACHING OUT.

WE'RE TALKING TO THEM.

THIS YEAR OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I'VE HAD A FEW BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY ACCOUNTS IN TOWN THAT I'VE HAD TO PERSONALLY GO AND VISIT AND TRY TO GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO PAY THEIR TAXES.

WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THAT.

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ONE OF THEM HAS FINISHED PAYING OFF WHAT THEY OWED.

ANOTHER IS IN THE MIDST OF A PAYMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE THAT BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES CAN BE HARD TO COLLECT IF YOU DON'T STAY ON TOP OF IT.

SO I'LL MOVE ON TO THE LET'S SEE IF I GET TO THE NEXT ONE OR I ALREADY BATTERIES AREN'T WORKING.

THERE WE GO.

IT'S ME, OPERATOR ERROR.

LET ME SKIP TO THE THIRD PIE CHART REAL QUICK.

THIS JUST SHOWS YOU THE MONEY OWED, HOW IT'S BROKEN DOWN BY TAX YEAR.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LARGEST SINGLE YEAR IS THE TWENTY NINETEEN YEAR THAT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE STARTED COLLECTING BACK IN JULY OF 2020.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF PERCENTAGE EACH YEAR PRIOR TO THAT AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS IN TOTAL.

NOW I'VE GIVEN YOU A VARIETY OF GRAPHS, ANY ONE OF WHICH I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK TO IN ANY PARTICULAR DETAIL.

BUT LET ME JUST TAKE YOU TO THE LAST COMPLETE YEAR, WHICH WAS TWENTY EIGHTEEN.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WHEN WE STARTED WITH THE TWENTY EIGHTEEN YEAR, THERE WAS ONLY ONE HUNDRED AND JUST ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS ROUGHLY OF UNPAID TWENTY EIGHTEEN TAXES THAT WE STARTED WORKING ON IN JULY OF TWENTY NINETEEN.

AND IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THAT CYCLE THAT ENDED JUNE 30TH OF TWENTY TWENTY, SIXTY FOUR PERCENT OF THAT HAD BEEN COLLECTED.

THAT HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE THOUSAND WAS LESS THAN THE YEAR BEFORE, WHICH WAS ONE HUNDRED SIXTY NINE THOUSAND AND FOR TWENTY NINETEEN THE YEAR WE STARTED JULY OF TWENTY TWENTY YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE AMOUNT TURNED OVER TO US DROPPED ALMOST TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS DOWN TO ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE ABOUT ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SIX THOUSAND.

SO YOUR CURRENT COLLECTIONS HAVE BEEN STRONG.

THE AMOUNT OF DELINQUENT TAXES EQUATES TO ROUGHLY TWO PERCENT OF YOUR TOTAL LEVY.

SO 98 PERCENT, GIVE OR TAKE, IS WHAT'S COLLECTED BY THE TIME WE START AND HAVING COLLECTED RIGHT NOW, ALMOST FIFTY ONE PERCENT OF THAT TWO PERCENT THAT WAS LEFT OVER FOR TWENTY NINETEEN.

I FEEL GOOD THAT WE'RE ON TRACK TO HAVE A GOOD SEASON.

NOW WE'LL SEE WHAT COVID DOES AND HOW THAT IMPACTS PEOPLE AND THEIR ABILITY TO GET THEIR TAXES PAID.

THAT'S A QUICK UPDATE ON THE TAX PORTION OF MY REPORT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

AND IF NOT, I'LL MOVE ON TO A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR COURT FINDING FEE WORK FOR YOU.

QUESTION ON THE TAXES.

THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS, YOU KNOW, YOU DO TALK ABOUT COVID.

WHAT ARE WE DOING IN RELATION TO ANY ARE WE GIVING ANY KIND OF HOLIDAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR THESE PEOPLE? SO BACK IN THE SPRING WHEN EVERYTHING GOT OFF, THERE WAS AN AG OPINION, THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED TO DETERMINE WHETHER COVID-19 QUALIFIED AS A DISASTER OR NOT UNDER THE TAX CODE.

AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL CAME OUT WITH AN OPINION THAT SAYS IT DOES NOT BECAUSE DISASTERS ARE GENERALLY THOUGHT OF PHYSICAL DISASTERS, YOU KNOW, HURRICANES AND THE LIKE.

AND THAT COVID-19 DID NOT QUALIFY SO WHILE WE GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO PAY AS WE WOULD, WHETHER THERE WAS COVID OR NOT.

THERE WAS NO REDUCTION IN THE OR DELAY IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF PENALTIES AND INTEREST IT WOULD ATTACH TO TAXES THAT PEOPLE OWE.

SO, WOW.

OTHER THAN GIVING TIME, THERE'S NO OTHER CHANGE.

I'M NOT AWARE TO DATE OF ANY LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN FILED THAT MAY IMPACT THAT FOR 2021 OR 2020 OR FOR FUTURE YEARS.

SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT SORT OF STILL AN OPEN QUESTION, BUT I WANT TO ASSURE COUNCIL THAT FROM OUR ASPECT AND FROM THE TAX OFFICE STANDPOINT, PEOPLE THAT HAVE ISSUES RELATIVE TO COVID 19 ARE BEING PROVIDED WHATEVER ADDITIONAL TIME THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO PAY THEIR TAXES.

GOOD.

OK, YEAH, I DON'T WANT US TO TAKE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

AND IN THE TIME WHERE PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING TO OPEN THEIR BUSINESSES OR BE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE'RE QUITE SENSITIVE THAT, IN FACT, IN OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM, WE CREATED A SPECIAL CODE FOR COVID-19 SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND IDENTIFY THOSE ACCOUNTS AND DO PERIODIC FOLLOW UP WITH PEOPLE TO SEE IF THEIR SITUATION HAS CHANGED, THAT THEY'RE THEN IN A POSITION TO PAY THEIR TAXES.

SO YOUR COURT FILING FEES, WE HAVE A REAL GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR COURT.

THIS WEEK, BETWEEN THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK, WE'RE GOING TO MAIL OUT ALMOST 1600 NOTICES FOR THE CITY ON WHAT USED TO BE KNOWN AS THE WARRANT ROUNDUP PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE RELABELED AS CASE RESOLUTION, BECAUSE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE TIMES AND THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WARRANT ROUNDUP SOUNDS VERY HARSH AND THIS AND THAT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO IT REALLY WHAT IT IS, IS AN ADDITIONAL MAIL OUT FOR US TO TRY TO

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GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS.

AS YOU KNOW, WE AS THE COLLECTION AGENT MAKE NO DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO PEOPLE THAT OWE YOU UNPAID COURT FINES AND FEES.

OUR JOB IS TO DRIVE THEM TO THE COURT, LET THE COURT MAKE THE DECISION OF HOW TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE.

AND SO THIS NOTICE, WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING OUT BLUE POSTCARDS TO PEOPLE NOT ONLY IN THE CITY, BUT COUNTY WIDE AND IN OTHER AREAS WE REPRESENT AROUND THE STATE, TRYING TO GET THEM TO COME IN AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS AND GET THOSE PAID.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDED YOU THAT WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD OVERALL SUCCESS FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF CASH AND NON-CASH PAYMENTS THAT WE'VE RESOLVED OVER 76 PERCENT OF THE DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED OVER TO US.

SO I'M REAL PROUD OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

WITH REGARD TO THE MOWING AND DEMOLITION LIENS, WE WORK WITH YOUR STAFF WHEN WE RUN ACROSS THAT IN THE DELINQUENT TAX ENVIRONMENT AND WE SEE THERE'S A MOWING LIEN OR DEMO LIEN WE INCLUDE THAT IN OUR LAWSUIT, WE'RE ABLE TO TRY TO COLLECT THAT THROUGH THE TAX COLLECTION PROCESS AND GET THAT MONEY IN FOR THE CITY.

VIRTUALLY ANYTHING THAT WE'RE PUTTING UP FOR SALE IN THE CITY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH FORTUNATELY, THAT ACTUALLY HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY TO SALE.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GET IT POSTED AND THEN THE PERSON COMES IN AND PAYS IT OFF.

BUT ANYTHING WE'VE PRETTY MUCH HAD TO PUT UP FOR SALE HAS SOLD.

SO WE'RE NOT REQUIRING A LOT OF INVENTORY RIGHT NOW OF OWNING PROPERTY FOR THE CITY.

SO IF THERE IS A MOWING OR DEMO LIEN INCLUDED, WE'RE GENERALLY ABLE TO GET IT PAID AT THAT POINT IN THE PROCESS.

AND FINALLY, I'VE GIVEN YOU THREE MAPS.

LET ME JUST TAKE YOU TO THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS ALWAYS MY FAVORITE ONE.

AND THAT IS A MAP OF ALL THE PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE CITY OF ANGLETON, GOTTEN THE TICKET, STILL OWES MONEY.

SO YOU CAN SEE THEY COME FROM FAR AND WIDE, NORTH AND SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.

AND SO YOU CAN SORT OF SEE THE INHERENT CHALLENGE IN THE COLLECTION OF OUTSTANDING COURT FINES AND FEES.

I KNOW SOMEBODY WOULD VOLUNTEER TO GO TO LAS VEGAS TO PICK UP AN OUTSTANDING WARRANT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE DANGEROUS THESE DAYS TO BE DOING THAT, RIGHT.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL.

WE WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE OFFER TO THEM INFORMATION.

WE HAVE ZIP CODE REPORTS.

WE HAVE A MAPPING SYSTEM.

WE HAVE THINGS THAT CAN HELP THEM IF THEY'RE EVER INVOLVED IN A WARRANT ROUNDUP OR CASE RESOLUTION, WHATEVER TERM THAT YOU'D LIKE TO USE, BASICALLY TO GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND PAY THE MONEY THAT THEY OWE TO THE CITY.

SO TO ME, IT SHOWS THAT THE PEOPLE IN MONTANA AND MAINE NEED TO COME TO ANGLETON MORE OFTEN.

ABSOLUTELY.

THEY'RE COMING TO VISIT RELATIVES GETTING A TICKET.

THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS.

SO THAT'S A QUICK UPDATE OF THAT.

AS ALWAYS, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH YOU TO REPRESENT THE CITY.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ON YOUR BEHALF.

ENLIGHTEN US ON DEFERRAL.

EXCUSE ME.

SAY AGAIN.

ENLIGHTEN US ON DEFERRAL.

SURE.

SO YOU'RE I'M NOT 65 YET, BUT I'M GETTING CLOSE TO THAT.

IF WHETHER I OWED DELINQUENT TAXES OR NOT, THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE THAT OWED DELINQUENT TAXES TURN 65 AT SOME POINT IN THE PROCESS, THEY CAN FILE A FORM WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

BASICALLY, YOU SHOW DRIVER'S LICENSE.

IT'S PROOF OF YOUR AGE, FILL OUT A FORM AND YOU CAN FILE A DEFERRAL.

AND THAT GETS OVER TO THE TAX OFFICE.

AND THEN YOU PAY A DIFFERENT YOU'RE DELINQUENT TAX INCURS INTEREST AT A DIFFERENT RATE THAN IF YOU'RE NORMALLY DELINQUENT.

AND IT BASICALLY STOPS IT'S TO PROTECT PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN HOMES THAT JUST NO LONGER HAD THE FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY.

AND SO WE IDENTIFY THOSE.

AND WHILE THAT DEFERRAL IS IN PLACE, WE CAN'T TAKE ANY CONCERTED EFFORT TO COLLECT THAT TAX.

SO I CAN'T SUE THEM.

I COULDN'T SELL THEIR PROPERTY.

THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHEN A PERSON TURNS 65 AND THEY HOLD SOME VALUE OF PROPERTY OR SOMETHING YEAH, SURE, YOU CAN GET A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, YOU GET A OVER 65 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

THAT MIGHT PROVIDE YOU A LITTLE MORE, BUT YOU CAN GET A DEFERRAL WHEN YOU TURN 65, EVEN IF YOU DON'T OWE DELINQUENT TAXES AND YOU COULD PAY IT AND JUST KEEP THAT DEFERRAL IN PLACE.

SO IF SOMETHING GOES BAD, YOU DON'T RISK, YOU KNOW, LOSING YOUR PROPERTY.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT OPTION WAS AVAILABLE FOR DELINQUENT.

EASY CECIL.

EASY.

JUST KEEP PAYING YOUR TAXES.

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[LAUGHTER] DON'T PUT IT ON YOUR KIDS.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT TRUST ME THE REST OF US AREN'T 65 WE ARE ALL SITTING HERE GOING, HOW CAN WE DO THIS? TOO LATE WHO DO I NEED TO SEND THIS TO.

25 WILL BE POSTPONED.

26.

[26. Discussion and possible action on funding the utility infrastructure improvement study and possible funding through the Texas Water Development Board.]

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON FUNDING THE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT STUDY AND POSSIBLE FUNDING THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

STUDY.

YES, IT'S A STUDY 26.

SO I KIND OF LIKE TO DO THE BACKGROUND THING, SO WE STARTED THIS LAST YEAR ABOUT HOW DO WE FIX ANGLETON'S INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IN ORDER TO GET SOME OF THE COST, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO GO TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, SUBMIT A PROJECT INFORMATION FILE IN MARCH OF 2022.

BUT IN ORDER TO GET THERE, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOME OF THE GAPS IN OUR KNOWLEDGE SO WE CAN SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.

AND SO PROBABLY IN THE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME, WE COME BACK, WE DO AN RFP, RFQ FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES, SELECT AN ENGINEER AND TAKE THESE COSTS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH PRIORITIZED PROJECTS TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.

AND SO THIS IS REALLY TO GET THE MEAT FOR THAT APPLICATION, BECAUSE IF WE WERE [INAUDIBLE] SUBMIT AND APPLICATION FOR THIS MARCH, WE'D BE WOEFULLY UNPREPARED.

AND SO JOHN'S GOING TO KIND OF COVER SOME OF THOSE GAPS AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

THIS IS FUNDED.

WE HAVE IMPACT.

AND KAF FEES SITTING IN BANK ACCOUNTS THAT WE CAN AND THAT WE CAN APPLY TO THIS.

TO THE SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO WE CAN APPLY TO SOME OF IT.

BECAUSE I SEE BUDGET AMOUNT ZERO.

RIGHT? SO WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE A STUDY FEE GROUP OR SOMETHING.

BUT AND AGAIN, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE WASTE WATER INSTEAD OF DOING SOME SANITARY SEWER EVALUATION SYSTEM STUDIES, REALLY, WE KIND OF NARROWED IT DOWN TO WHAT'S CLAY AND ASBESTOS CONCRETE LINES THAT ARE OBSOLETE AND COME UP WITH THE LINEAR FEET AND DOLLAR AMOUNT BASED OFF OF THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY CAN'T DO THE WHOLE THING, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT THE POTENTIAL BILL IS AND THEN WE CAN NARROW THAT DOWN AND PRIORITIZE AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK FOR THE CITY.

JOHN, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU COUNCIL STAFF AND HDR HAS WORKED WITH YOU PREVIOUSLY ON TALKING ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

STAFF HAS DIRECTED HDR TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE CITY COMPREHENSIVELY AS WHAT ALL DOES THE CITY NEED TO DO? IF WE WERE TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO START FROM SCRATCH, REBUILD THE CITY UP TO WHERE WE CAN TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THE DEFICIENCIES THAT ARE IN THE CITY.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS I CAME AND PUT TOGETHER BASICALLY A BUDGET SCHEDULE ON WHAT ITEMS THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF.

AND WE HAVE THE CIP BUDGETS AND THEN ALSO THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO SOME ASSESSMENTS ON TO IDENTIFY THE OTHER DEFICIENCIES.

AS CHRIS WAS SAYING, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING AN SSCS, BUT WITH THE CONTINUING PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING WITH CONCRETE PIPE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BASICALLY WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE TYPE OF MATERIALS PVC HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE LATE 70S, EARLY 80S.

SO ANYTHING THAT'S NOT PVC BY DEFINITION IS 40 PLUS YEARS OLD, WHICH IS ABOUT THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF CONCRETE CLAY THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WHAT WE DID IS INSTEAD OF DOING THE BIG SSES IS WE WENT AHEAD AND JUST IDENTIFIED MET WITH JEFF AND MET WITH STAFF UPDATED THE GIS AND IDENTIFIED ALL THE PIPE MATERIALS AND SAID, OK, LOOK, IF WE WANT TO TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK AT THE CITY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO FOR THIS SYSTEM.

SAME THING WITH THE WATER LINE.

ANYTHING THAT WASN'T PVC, WHETHER IT'S OLD CAST IRON BECAUSE CAST IRON, WILL START PUTTING CIRCULATION ON THE INSIDE OF THE PIPE AND START LOSING FLOW.

PIPE BECOMES A BRITTLE.

MATTER OF FACT JEFF'S GOING TO GO FIX ONE TODAY THAT HAD BROKE CAST IRON PIPE THAT APPEARS AND ALSO ASBESTOS CONCRETE PIPE AC PIPE, WHICH IS USED EVERYWHERE.

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BUT THE PROBLEM IS IT'S VERY BRITTLE.

AND WHEN YOU GET STARTED GETTING INTO DROUGHT SEASONS, THE GROUND MOVES.

2011 SPEAKING WITH JEFF AND STAFF, BASICALLY THE CITY WAS REPLACING OR REPAIRING 10 BREAKS A DAY OF MY AC LINE.

SO, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO GO AND REPLACE THIS ALL RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHERE THE CITY WAS AND THE TOTAL THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT THE CITY CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH OF THIS ON AT A TIME.

BUT WE WANTED TO BRING YOU WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD TAKE TO LOOK AT REPLACING AND BRING EVERYTHING ELSE UP.

ALSO, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS IS WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY DOING THE [INAUDIBLE] RISK ASSESSMENT.

WE DO NOT HAVE WHAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS COMING OUT OF THAT.

YET WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT.

THAT'LL BE FINISHING UP PROBABLY THE NEXT THREE MONTHS OR SO, I BELIEVE.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT NUMBER OUT.

BUT THE ONES THAT WE DO KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS THE [INAUDIBLE] THE ERP, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN.

WE KNOW YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.

THAT IS A MANDATE AND PUT THAT MONEY INTO THIS SCHEDULE.

THE OTHER ONES ARE ASSESSMENTS ON THE LIST STATION AND ON OYSTER CREEK WASTEWATER FACILITIES.

THE LIST SECTIONS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS 14 OF THEM THERE HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY, GIVEN THE CITY STAFF PROBLEMS, THAT ARE STARTING TO AGE.

THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THEM IS STARTING TO FALL DOWN.

SO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THESE.

WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, NOT ONLY JUST TO FILL FACILITY ASSESSMENTS, IT'S ALSO AN ENERGY SAVINGS ASSESSMENT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE FACILITY MORE EFFICIENT, TO SAVE MONEY ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE OF THE PROJECT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST LOOKING THIS THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO REPLACE THIS.

IT'S A THERE'S MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING THIS PROCESS NOW THAT WE CAN UPDATE.

WE CAN SAVE THE CITY THIS MUCH MONEY.

SO THIS IS WHY WE WANT TO RECOMMEND THIS.

THOSE ARE FOR THE CURRENT EXISTING SYSTEMS. ON THE FUTURE GROWTH SYSTEMS. WE WENT AHEAD AND IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF OTHER ONES THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT ONE IS THE ANGLETON UTILITY MASTER PLAN UPDATE THAT IS DUE TO THE EXPLOSION OF GROWTH THAT YOU'RE HAVING IN THE CITY.

AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT, WE ARE STARTING TO SERIOUSLY GET WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON CAPACITIES ON THE WATER.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIG ONE WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THAT? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE DEVELOPERS HANDLE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS, OR ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO GROW THE CITY WITH THEM AS PARTNERS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

BUT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE HAVING, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEXT 10 YEARS OF ACTUALLY INCREASING THE CITY'S DEMAND BY ANYWHERE BETWEEN A QUARTER TO HALF, 50 PERCENT.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S A MAJOR EXPLOSION THAT THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH THAT REALLY YOU HAVEN'T HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT.

AN THE OTHER ONE IS THE NORTH SIDE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT STUDY.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WORKING HERE BACK, AND I THINK IT WAS 2006 OR 2008, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS I WAS TALKING WITH ROBERT [INAUDIBLE], WHICH WAS THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AT THE TIME, AND SO WAS THERE ALWAYS WAS IDEA THAT ONCE THE BRUSHY BIO TREATMENT PLANT WENT DOWN THERE, AT SOME POINT IN TIME THEY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD A TREATMENT PLANT ONCE THE STATION 44 REACHED ITS CAPACITY.

WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT AND PARTNER AGAIN WITH THESE DEVELOPERS AND YOU GETTING THEM TO SHARE COSTS WITH US, WE NEED TO DO SOME THINGS TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION, THE SIZE, THAT TYPE OF TREATMENT, THE TYPE OF PROCESS PERMITTING THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND GIVE YOU A TOTAL COST.

YOU CAN BUDGET FOR IT IF THAT IS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL DESIRES TO TAKE A LOOK AT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

ALSO, WHAT WE PROVIDED WAS ACTUALLY A SCHEDULE.

WE DID A REVERSE KIND OF ENGINEERING ON THIS.

WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A SUBMITTAL ON MARCH 2ND, 2022.

WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW OURSELVES FOUR MONTHS TO COORDINATE AND DO PRE MEETINGS AND EVERYTHING.

WE HAD A MEETING WITH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD THIS WEEK, AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON MONDAY, KIND OF GOT THE PROCESSES COMING THROUGH TO GET THE PIF OR THE PROJECT INFORMATION FORM OUT, TO GET IT APPROVED AND GET IT IN LINE.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME TIME TO GET THAT FILLED OUT PRE MEETINGS AND GET IT ALL READY FOR THE FINAL SUBMITTALS.

SO WE'RE SAYING WE NEED TO GET EVERYTHING DONE BY NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

SO WITH THAT LOOK AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE, WE'RE REALLY PUSHING HARD ON THE FUTURE GROWTH ITEMS, THE EXISTING ITEMS. WE'VE GOT A LITTLE TIME, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO GET GOING.

THE MORE WE CAN GET GOING, THE MORE DISCUSSIONS WE CAN HAVE AND COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD.

SO WITH THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A BRIEF SYNOPSIS WITHOUT GOING TOO DEEP INTO IT.

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I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO ASK.

SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT STUDY WHY THAT'S SUCH A BIG NUMBER? WHAT'S THE INVOLVEMENT IN FIGURING OUT THE FEASIBILITY LOCATION, HOW IT IMPACTS THE SYSTEM? CORRECT.

IT'S IDENTIFYING THE PROPERTY, IDENTIFYING BECAUSE WHEN YOU IDENTIFY PROPERTY, IT'S NOT JUST LOOKING FOR PROPERTIES, LOOKING FOR PROPERTY THAT YOU CAN HAVE AN OUTFALL FOR THE WATER.

THAT'S WHY YOU GO AHEAD AND TREAT IT AND RELEASE IT.

YOU'VE GOT TO DO YOUR PERMITTING WITH TCEQ.

YOU'VE GOT TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE YOU CAN RELEASE IT INTO THAT WATER STREAM ALSO IT'S ACTUALLY THE TREATMENT PROCESS.

YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT MORE NARROWED DOWN TO WHERE YOU KNOW AND HAVE A GOOD WORKING BUDGET.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PRICE OR SIGNIFICANT EFFORT IN APPENDIX U OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

I'M CARRYING THIS WITH ME.

THIS IS THE INFORMATION OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

THERE'S ACTUALLY SCOPE THAT WAS PROVIDED INTO THAT ACTUAL PACKAGE.

SO, JOHN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF YOU COULD HELP EXPLAIN.

SO YOU'VE GOT ENGINEERS LOOKING AT THE FLOW.

IT'S MODELING OF HOW IT MOVES ITS MECHANICAL DESIGN OF A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

WE'LL BE LOOKING AT LOADING PROJECTIONS ON THE NORTH SIDE, THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING IN.

WE'LL ALSO BE LOOKING AT THE PROCESS, TREATMENT AND SELECTING AND THE SIZING OF IT.

WE'LL BE LOOKING AT PRIMARY AND PRELIMINARY TREATMENT, SECONDARY TREATMENT, TERTIARY TREATMENT AND FLUENT PIPING SOLIDS, CONVEYANCE DEWATERING STORAGE, INITIAL FLOW SCHEME, ELECTRICAL POWER, WASTEWATER TREATMENT CONTROLS, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROCESS SELECTIO SIZING AND WORKSHOPS.

THERE'LL BE WORKSHOPS TO TALK ABOUT ALL THIS AS WE GO THROUGH IT.

EQUIPMENT, SITE VISITS, WASTEWATER TREATMENT, PLANT SELECTION, CIVIL SITE RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONDITIONS.

FLOOD HAZARDS.

POTENTIAL ANALYSIS ON SITE IDENTIFICATION.

ENVIRONMENTAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCE CONSTRAINTS AND EVALUATION.

GEOTECHNICAL IMPACTS, TCEQ COORDINATION, PROBABLE COST, CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PROCESS TO GET YOU TO WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE YOU NEED TO BE AND THE NEXT STEPS THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN.

SO, JOHN, LET ME ASK YOU TOO MY NEXT QUESTION IS YOU HAVE THE UPDATE TO THE ANGLETON MASTER UTILITY PLAN.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN PUSH A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE WAY? SO WE FOCUS ON TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD STUFF.

THE THING THAT WE'RE SEEING IS RIGHT NOW ON THE UTILITY MASTER PLAN IS WE'RE STARTING TO COME INTO CAPACITY ISSUES WHEN WE START LOOKING AT OUR STORAGE, OUR ELEVATED STORAGE, PUMPING CAPACITY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ALSO, IS THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN.

AND WE'RE GETTING MORE OF A DEFINED AREA WHERE THEY'RE COMING IN TO WHERE WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, HEY, LOOK, WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THIS ETJ IN THIS AREA.

AND WE SPREAD THE LOADING OUT TO BE MORE OF A COMPACTED LOADING.

SO IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO WHERE IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CITY HOLISTICALLY, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT NOT JUST TYPE OF MATERIALS, BUT THE DEMANDS AND BEING ABLE TO SUPPLY THOSE DEMANDS WITH WATER AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING FROM.

BUT SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

AND THIS IS TO YOUR QUESTION, JOHN.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE WAY I SEE IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY COULD PUSH THAT [INAUDIBLE] A LITTLE BIT AND BE IT ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR RANGE FOR ALL THE OTHER STUDIES TO SUBMIT TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION FILE.

AND I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.

BUT AGAIN, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE CAN PROBABLY PUSH THAT [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, BUT THE FIFTY THOUSAND, WE SAID, HAS TO BE DONE, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN.

HAVE THE FIFTY THOUSAND IF THAT'S A MANDATE THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

SO NOW WE'RE TALKING FOUR FIFTY.

WELL BUT I'M SAYING THE FOUR HUNDRED RANGE VERSUS THE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR RANGE.

I DON'T SEE HOW WE PAY FOR THIS TO START.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY BIG TAKEAWAY ON IT.

AND HOW DO WE PAY FOR 400,000 OUT OF OUR BUDGET THAT WE DIDN'T BUDGET.

CHRIS.

THE MONEY TREE.

JOHN, YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S NOT ANY MONEY IN THE BUDGET AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUND THAT FOR THIS YEAR IS ALREADY FOR, THE COLLECTIONS ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR

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THE SCADA SYSTEM AND PAY THE BOND.

BUT THERE IS SOME FUND BALANCE IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUND THAT COULD BE USED FOR THIS.

HOW MUCH.

WHAT'S THE FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW? DOES IT TAKE US BELOW THE 90 DAYS.

798 THOUSAND.

BUT WE WANT TO LEAVE SOME FOR A FUTURE BOND PAYMENT, SO WE WANT TO LEAVE AT LEAST THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO COVER FUTURE BOND PAYMENTS.

WE'RE SAYING IT'S ABOUT 500,000 WE COULD USE.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUND IS FUND 128.

ARE CAPACITY ACQUISITION FEES RESTRICTED TO WHAT THEY COULD BE USED FOR.

YES, BUT I THINK THIS FITS THE STUDY, YOU KNOW, THE STUDIES TO FIND OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR FUTURE CAPITAL ACQUISITIONS.

HOW MUCH IS THE WATER BOARD GOING TO HELP US? GIVE US AN OVERVIEW, CHRIS, OF WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING TO SEE IN DOLLARS? SO WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD LAST WEEK, AND THEY GAVE US A OVERVIEW OF THEIR PROGRAMS, WHICH HAVE SLIGHTLY CHANGED SINCE I TOOK ROCKDALE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO THEY HAVE A CLEAN WATER DRINKING FUND AND A CLEAN WATER FUND AND DRINKING WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND.

AND SO DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER OR SEWER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS, ONE FOR EACH.

AND SO THEY'VE HINTED THAT THEIR GENERAL PROGRAMS IS FOR THE CLEAN WATER IS 24 MILLION AND YOUR DRINKING WATER IS UP TO MAYBE 50 MILLION WITH CAVEATS.

SO THEY SAID THAT'S KIND OF THEIR GUIDELINE, BUT IT'S NOT A RESTRICTION.

AND OF COURSE, THE SUBJECT TO FINANCING AND THE PROCESSES, WE SUBMIT THE PROJECT INFORMATION FILE, THEN THEY ARE ABOUT SIX OR NINE MONTHS LATER, INVITE US FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME, ASSUMING WE GET SELECTED AND THEN WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

WE'RE NOT A DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES AND SO WE WON'T MOST LIKELY GET ANY GRANTS OUT OF IT.

BUT WE'LL GET YOU KNOW, Y'ALL CAN HELP ME OUT ON THE RATES, WHAT THEY CALL NOW.

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

IT'S A RATE REDUCTION.

SO BASICALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A 30 TO 35 PERCENT RATE REDUCTION.

SO BASICALLY, EVERY TEN MILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU BORROW THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER BOARD, YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE INTEREST AND COST SAVING, OK, BUT HELP ME WALK ME THROUGH THAT, BECAUSE IF OUR LAST BOND ISSUANCE WAS A LITTLE UNDER 2 PERCENT, WHY .

THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US A REDUCTION OFF OF OUR NORMAL RATE.

SO BASICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO GET THE STATE OF TEXAS RATE.

STATE OF TEXAS IS GOING TO BUY OUR BONDS AT THAT RATE.

THEY'RE GOING TO ISSUE BONDS, PUBLIC WE'RE [INAUDIBLE] THEY HAVE THE BEST RATE.

AND THEY ESTIMATE THAT IT'S 35 PERCENT REDUCTION.

SO THAT'S WERE YOU GET THE OVER A 20 YEAR LOAN FOR 10 MILLION MONEY YOU GET YOU SAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN INTEREST.

THE SCORING MATRIX, THEN YOU RATE HIGHER FOR THEM TO GIVE YOU MONEY.

YOU'RE IN GREAT SHAPE AND YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GET A LOAN.

SO THE GOOD NEWS BAD NEWS STORY WAS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE LOTS OF VIOLATIONS AND YOU'RE ON THEIR WATCH LIST, YOU RANK HIGHER.

THE BAD NEWS IS IF YOU'RE DOING GOOD, THEN YOU SCORE LOWER.

AND SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE NOT IN ANY VIOLATIONS.

THE BAD NEWS IS THAT HURTS US MORE.

EXACTLY AND THAT'S A PENALTY.

BUT WE'RE LIVING ON THE EDGE.

I MEAN, FOR ALL THE TIMES WE'VE GONE OVER PERMIT AND ON THE WATCH LIST PRETTY SOON.

DOCUMENT ALL THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT IF IF WE CAN PROPERLY DOCUMENT WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHERE THE FAILURES ARE HAPPENING AND ALSO DOCUMENT THE FUTURE GROWTH, THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE GROWTH, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THEM SAYING, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS, IF WE HAVE PLOTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT DRAWN UP AND WE CANNOT SERVICE THOSE, THEN YES, THAT IS A REASON FOR US TO GET FUNDING.

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BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE, OH, THERE'S WE HAVE A DEVELOPER KIND OF TALKING TO US, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THERE THEY WON'T FUND THAT.

THEY WILL FUND OR THEY'LL LOOK AT FUNDING, LAND ACQUISITION, I THINK, FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

BUT I WAS WONDERING, JOHN OR CHRIS, DO YOU THINK THAT WE COULD RETROACTIVELY GET MONEY BACK FOR STUDY FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT? YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MAYBE.

I BELIEVE THE COUNCILMAN'S ASKING IF WE COULD GET REIMBURSED FOR THE MONEY FOR THE FEES FOR DOING THIS STUDY.

I'M NOT SURE I COULD CALL AND FIND OUT IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE US TO FIND OUT.

TYPICALLY, WHEN WE'VE DONE THINGS LIKE THIS, THE CITY SPENDS THE MONEY TO GET EVERYTHING KIND OF LINED UP.

AND THEN ONCE THEY START THAT PROCESS, THAT'S WHEN, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE PROCESS IS DONE, THAT'S KIND OF WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT.

WE CAN CALL AND FIND OUT.

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WE DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

GREAT QUESTION.

IT ALWAYS SCARES ME WHEN WE SPEND MONEY ON A STUDY WITH THE HOPES OF GETTING MORE MONEY.

I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY, IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WELL, BUT SO AGAIN, WE'RE PLAYING FILL IN THE BLANK AND WE DON'T KNOW SOME OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS LIKE THE LIFT STATION.

AND SO WE CAN'T GO IN TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT AND SAY WE HAVE 15 LIFT STATIONS.

WE NEED TO EITHER REHAB OR REBUILD AND WE DON'T KNOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

AND I THINK I TOLD YOU AND PROBABLY A COUPLE OF OTHERS, YOU KNOW, MY PHILOSOPHY IS I NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT THE WORSE PICTURE IS.

IT'S ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION TO FIX EVERYTHING.

AND THEN WE PRIORITIZE AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO JUMP DOWN 25 MILLION OR WE'RE GOING TO JUMP DOWN 50.

AND HERE'S THE RATE INCREASE OR HERE'S THE WAY WE GET AT IT, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M FAILING.

IF I TELL YOU LET'S JUST GO FOR 25 MILLION AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR WE HAVE A DRY SUMMER AND ALL THESE LINES COLLAPSE.

AND YOU SAY, CHRIS, YOU KNOW, WE WENT TO BAT FOR YOU, WE SCORED YOU AND YOU DIDN'T TELL US THE WHOLE PICTURE.

AND WITH THE RECOGNITION THAT IF WE BORROW 25 MILLION OR WHATEVER IT IS AND GET FINANCE FOR IT, THAT IN FIVE YEARS WE NEED TO SAY, LET'S JUMP DOWN TO THE NEXT PART OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND WE'LL HAVE ALL THIS INCREASED GROWTH WE'LL SPREAD THE WEALTH OR SPREAD THE PAIN OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME INDUSTRY BY THEN, WHICH WILL HELP A GREAT AMOUNT WITH OUR PAIN.

HOW MUCH DID WE BUDGET THIS YEAR TO FIX THE WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES? WHAT WAS IT 200 NONE.

200.

AND LIKE WE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE, WE STILL GET CDBG GRANTS LIKE WE'RE USING ON THE WATERTOWER, SO EVERY OTHER YEAR WE'LL APPLY FOR OUR TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND NUGGET SOME OTHER SEWER PROJECT LIKE WE'RE DOING IN MILLER STREET WE WILL SEEK OTHER GRANTS AS THEY POP UP LIKE THE GL GRANT AND KEEP PLUGGING AT IT.

BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCHEME OF IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD TAKE ONE HUNDRED YEARS IT AT THAT RATE TO REPLACE ALL THAT STUFF AND IT WOULD BE OBSOLETE TWICE IN THAT TIME FRAME.

I ALWAYS JOKED THAT WE NEED A BIG CABINET IN THERE WITH ALL THE STUDIES WE'VE SPENT MONEY ON, WE COULD JUST GO BACK AND GRAB THEM.

BUT IT ALWAYS SEEMS WE CAN'T FIND STUDIES THAT WE DID 10 YEARS AGO.

AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD A STUDY ON THIS LEVEL.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT.

AS FAR AS THE TREATMENT PLANT.

AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY THAT YOU'RE TELLING US YOU NEED TO DO ALONG THE WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES.

WELL, THERE IS NO STUDY ON THAT.

THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, IS WE WENT AHEAD AND JUST MADE THE ASSUMPTION THAT.

BASED OFF THE 40 YEARS.

BASED OFF OF THE MATERIAL TYPE THE MATERIAL LIKE CONCRETE PIPES.

TYPICALLY REUSED 60S AND EARLY 70S, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE SEEING IT IN THE CITY WHEN THESE COLLAPSES ARE COMING, JUST DIGGING DOWN, THERE'S NO PIPELINE.

SO WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE PIPE IS GOING TO BE IS EQUAL OR RELATIVELY THAT CONDITION.

SO INSTEAD OF DOING THE STUDY, WE JUST SAID, HEY, OUR CONCRETE PIPE, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND IDENTIFY IS THERE A NEED TO BE DONE? BUT THERE IS NO STUDY.

THE ONLY ASSESSMENTS THAT WE'RE REALLY ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT OR

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JUST THE STUDY OF THE LIFT STATIONS ARE THE ASSESSMENTS OF THE LIFT STATIONS, THE ASSESSMENT OF THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND.

AND THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN, THAT ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS TO DO THAT MIC], RIGHT.

I MEAN, IT HAS TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE ANOTHER BILL.

YOU KNOW, WE ALL SAW THE NEWS TODAY ABOUT FLORIDA, WHERE SOMEONE HACKED INTO THIS SCADA SYSTEM AND TURNED UP THE CHLORINE AND ALL THAT.

SO PROBABLY OUT OF THIS REPORT, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WE NEED CAMERAS, WE NEED ELECTRONIC ACCESS GATES, WE NEED WHATEVER TO GET UP TO COMPLIANCE.

AND SO, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BITE THAT BULLET OR BUDGET IT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS BECAUSE WE'LL GET REEVALUATED AND REINSPECTED AND.

WELL, I MEAN, I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PREVENT THAT WHEN YOU HAVE WATER COMING INTO THE CITY THAT YOU CAN'T CONTROL.

SO WATER'S COMING FROM UWA SOMEBODY COULD HACK INTO THEIR SYSTEM AND PUSH THAT WATER.

BUT WE HAVE TO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN RESPONSE PLAN AND THEIR OWN PROTECTIONS.

WE'VE GOT TO WORRY ABOUT OUR TANKS, OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR SYSTEMS. WHAT'S OUR STATED GOAL? I THINK I UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STUFF IN MY MIND TALKING AROUND BUT WHAT ARE WE WHAT'S OUR GOAL WHAT'S THAT? YOU GET THE STUDY, OK? WE KNOW THE EXPENSE AND I MAY BE OVERSIMPLIFYING, SO I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT TRYING TO BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS VERY THEN WE START APPLYING FOR EITHER NOT WE DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BEING GRANTS BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING WELL ENOUGH JUST IN PURGATORY WHAT I THINK.

JUST GOOD ENOUGH NOT TO BE BAD AND TWO, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BONDS OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RAISING TAX RATES? I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO FUND THESE AT SOME POINT AND THEN AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST KIND OF TALKING TWO VERY VAGUE.

AND TO ME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THEN I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN AND ACTION WITH OBVIOUSLY SOME FLEXIBILITY.

BECAUSE LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT, THERE ARE THINGS CHANGES THAT DO COME AROUND, BUT THE OTHER THING IS INFLUX OF NEW SUBDIVISIONS.

I MEAN, THERE'S JUST SO MANY VARIABLES OUT THERE, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT ROAD MAP.

WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE SOMEWHERE WE'RE GOING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR YOU.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR YOU.

OK, SO WHEN WE GET ALL THIS STUDY STUFF BACK AND LET'S JUST SAY WE ALREADY KNOW FOR WATER LINES IS 50 MILLION AND SEWER LINES IS 50 MILLION.

YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET ALL THESE NUMBERS BACK AND WE'RE AGAIN AT 150 MILLION OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GO AFTER TWENTY FIVE MILLION AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE THIS THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT CURRENT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

NUMBER TWO IS OF THE FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS IN SEWER LINES, WE'RE GOING TO DO 15 MILLION.

AND SO WE'LL COME UP WITH THAT, WHATEVER THAT MAGIC NUMBER IS THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO AGREE TO.

AND THAT'S OUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET FUNDED.

SO IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GIVE YOU WE'LL GIVE YOU SCENARIOS THAT WILL SAY IF WE BORROW 25 MILLION DOLLARS VERSUS 50 MILLION DOLLARS OR THIRTY FIVE OR WHATEVER, THE MAGIC NUMBER IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT.

AND SO IS THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF IT'S ON SEWER SIDE ARE WE GOING TO RAISE SEWER RATES TO DO THAT? WE'RE GOING TO RAISE WATER RATES TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S BORROWING DEBT AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR METHODOLOGY FOR PAYMENT IS.

SO IN MY MIND, WATER.

OK, SO AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME UNDERLYING FUNDAMENTAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF MUNICIPALITIES OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M OK WITH ALL THIS, IF WE MAKE A COMMITMENT TO STAY THE

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COURSE, OK? AND THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE THAT SIT UP HERE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

OK, AND FORTUNATELY, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO LIKE YOUR JOB.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A COMMON SIGHT, AN IDEA OF THE THOUGHT PLAN, BECAUSE I THINK POSITIONS CHANGE AND YOUR POSITION CHANGE, THOSE POSITIONS CHANGE.

PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES AND THEN THEY START.

AND THAT'S HOW YOU END UP WITHOUT A COMMON PLAN TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

AND THAT SEEMS TO ME LIKE COMES ALONG, WE HAVE TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO DO THIS.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ONE HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS.

YOU CAN'T JUST HALF HEARTEDLY GO INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND SO, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M ALL FOR IT.

I JUST LIKE THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE A LITTLE LITERALLY NEXT WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE WANT 13 MILLION DOLLARS TO REPLACE SEWER LINES.

SO WHEN WE GET FUNDED, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO SPEND THE MONEY ON.

SO THERE'S NO LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR A PARK OR WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, USE IT FOR A WATER LINE.

IT'S FOR 13 MILLION DOLLARS IN SEWER LINES.

OR IF WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO REPAIR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND REPAIR THE LIFT STATIONS OUT THERE AND MOVE IT AND ALL THAT STUFF, THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY HAS GOT TO BE SPENT FOR.

SO WE ARE COMMITTING TO THAT.

AND THAT'S OUR CONTRACT WITH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD MOVING FORWARD.

DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE.

I MEAN, DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE IF WE DO THIS STUDY, IF WE EXERCISE, WE FIND THE FUNDS TO DO IT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TO DO BUSINESS WITH I MEAN, ARE WE? THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, OR IS IT JUST WISHFUL THINKING.

I MEAN, SURE, YOU CAN'T MAKE 100 PERCENT PROMISES YOU'RE NOT ON THEIR BOARD.

SO I CAN TELL YOU FROM AGAIN, MY EXPERIENCE IN ROCKDALE, WE CAME OUT LIKE ON THE CLEAN WATER DRINKING FUND NUMBER 24 ON THE PROJECT LIST.

AND THEN WE CAME OUT NUMBER 27 ON THE DRINKING WATER.

AND SO ONCE THEY MAKE THAT COMMITMENT IN ROCKDALE, WE GOT GRANT FORGIVENESS BECAUSE WE WERE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT GOING INTO THAT, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE GOING TO RANK OR WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO GET FUNDED.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE WE TALKED LIKE, JOHN, LED THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IF WE SUBMIT FOR A 24 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ON THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND, ARE WE IS THAT A PROJECT SIZE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR? AND THEY KIND OF GAVE US THE WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEES THAT IF YOU SUBMIT THE RIGHT LEVEL PROJECT.

BUT THEY DID GIVE US A NOD THAT THE PROJECTS WE WERE SUBMITTING FOR ARE KIND OF PROJECTS THEY WOULD FUND.

SO WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE ONE OF THOSE HEY, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

WE THINK THAT THE PROJECTS YOU ARE SUBMITTING FOR ARE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY.

IT'S IN THE AREA OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

AND THEY DID MENTION THAT THIS GENERAL AREA FROM ROSENBERG ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HERE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION, NOT JUST TO US.

IT'S WITHIN THEIR SCOPE.

YOU KNOW, I WONDER WHY.

YEAH, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS.

OH, THAT'S GOOD.

BACK ON YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD THING ABOUT COMING UP WITH A CONCERTED CHART.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THERE.

RIGHT? AND WE JUST HOLD THE SANITARY SEWER FOR JUST A MOMENT YOU GOT AS I SEE IT YOU GOT THREE COMPONENTS.

YOU'VE GOT A COLLECTION SYSTEM THE NET IS TRANSPORTED TO WE'VE GOT A COLLECTION SYSTEM AND A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, THEY'RE KIND OF TWO OF THE SAME THING.

A LOT OF THE COLLECTION IS TRANSPORTATION AND PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION IS THAT YOU HAVE TO PUMP IT BECAUSE WE LIVED IN THIS FLAT COUNTRY CLOSER TO THE SEWER PLANT.

AND THE THIRD COMPONENT IS TREATING THE SEWER SO WE CAN DISCHARGE IT.

WITHIN THE COLLECTION AND TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM COMPONENTS A LOT OF WATER IN WE DON'T NEED STUDY THAT, JEFF THIS WHOLE SUBDIVISION NEEDS TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE NOTHING IN THERE BUT

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CONCRETE LINES THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE STUDIED.

THERE ARE JUST GO IN THERE AND DESIGN THE SYSTEM TO FIX IT AND IT'S DONE.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE PUT TOGETHER.

GET THEM ON THE STREET TO GET POTENTIALLY CONSTRUCTED OR GET ESTIMATES OF HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST? WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO FUNDING AGENCY WHETHER IT'S WATER DEVELOPMENT AGENCY OR SOMETHING ELSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT SOMETHING ELSE WOULD BE.

HERE IMMEDIATELY, WE NEED THIS 20 MILLION TO FIX THIS WHETHER IT'S COLLECTION OR REHABBING LIFT STATIONS THAT DON'T WORK PROPERLY ANYMORE OR THEY'RE CORRODING AND FALLING APART.

BUT THE SEWER PLAN IS GOING TO BE DO SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY FAST.

[INAUDIBLE] SANITARY SEWER STUFF AND THEN YOU GOT THE WATER SIDE, WHICH IS.

LET ME LET ME TIME OUT ON THIS.

BRING ME BACK TO A QUESTION I WAS HAVING.

ARE WE ARE SUFFERING MUCH ON WHERE WE GET OUR WATER? WE HAVE X GPM AND GROUND WATER, WE HAVE Y GPM AND SURFACE WATER TOGETHER, GIVE US ALL THE WATER THAT WE HAVE IS.

ARE WE OR ARE WE BEHIND IN STORAGE AND PUMPING CAPACITY? OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS PUMPING CAPACITY, YOUR BOOSTER PUMP CAPACITY.

YOU ONLY HAVE ENOUGH FOR THIRTY TWO ADDITIONAL THIRTY TWO HUNDRED ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS ON OUR PUMPING CAPACITY [INAUDIBLE] REQUIREMENTS.

OUR NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE ELEVATED STORAGE.

YOUR TOTAL STORAGE.

YOU'RE PRETTY STRONG BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE GROUND WATER TANKS AND THEN YOU HAVE ANY STORAGE COMBINED UP.

I WAS WONDERING IF WE WERE.

WE NEED TO GET THIS NEW WELL ONLINE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

THAT'S WITH THAT WELL BRING A BROUGHT ONLINE WITHOUT THE WELL, AGAIN, YOUR ELEVATED STORAGE.

YOUR ELEVATED STORAGE IS GOING TO YOUR PUMPING CAPACITY, I APOLOGIZE.

IS YOUR STILL YOUR SMALLEST THING.

SO EVEN WHEN YOU BRING THAT WELL ONLINE, IT'S STILL YOUR MINIMUM NUMBER.

WE HAVE THE WATER TO FEED INTO THE SYSTEM.

THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF FEEDING IT INTO THE SYSTEM AND HOLDING.

AND HOLDING IT.

[INAUDIBLE] WELL, AT LEAST WE'RE TAKING A GOOD STEP ON GETTING A NEW WATER TOWER.

THAT HELPS YOU OUT SIGNIFICANTLY JOHN A LOT.

I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, IT'S AN EXTRA 250,000 GALLONS.

THERE'S THE BRIGHT SIDE OF ALL THIS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REAL QUICK.

WHAT'S OUR DEBT SERVICE LOOK LIKE? THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS CHRIS, YOU AND I TALKED ON THE PHONE AND I SAID, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHEN AT TIMES, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BORROW MONEY, BECAUSE THAT'S IN ESSENCE WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE BORROWING MONEY PROBABLY ABOUT ONE PERCENT, ONE AND A HALF, MAYBE LESS.

BUT I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT LOOK? I LOOK TO THE MIDDLE AND WE'LL JUST SEE WHO GOES.

YOU HAVE LIKE A THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR.

THAT FALLS OFF.

SO, YOU KNOW OUR DEBT, RIGHT, I MEAN, OUR DEBT SCHEDULES IS EVERY FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS [INAUDIBLE].

BY THE TIME, YOU [INAUDIBLE].

BUT WE ALSO GOT TO CONSERVE THE SERVICE CENTER TOO.

YEAH, I [INAUDIBLE].

THE THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND CALLS OFF HOW MUCH WAS BORROWED THAT MADE THAT 300 THOUSAND.

AT WHAT INTEREST RATE? IT ALL DEPENDS HOW YOU PROPORTION YOUR RATE.

YOU KNOW, YOUR BOND.

OH NO I WAS ASKING, SO IN THE LAST YEAR, OF THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT, THAT THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND IS FALLING OFF.

WHAT WAS THAT DOLLAR? WHAT WAS THAT MADE UP OF? IN TOTAL DOLLARS? IN TOTAL DOLLARS? YEAH.

THAT WAS IT WAS LIKE THAT THREE MILLION DOLLAR BOND.

IT WAS ABOUT THREE MILLION.

AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, THE MASTER UTILITY PLAN, DIDN'T THAT JUST GET

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FINISHED IN 2017? YES, SIR.

WHEN WE WERE DOING THE MASTER UTILITY PLAN, YOUR AVERAGE NUMBER OF HOUSES PER YEAR, ABOUT 40 TO 60 PER YEAR.

THIS YEAR ALONE, WE'RE LOOKIN OR THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS ALONE, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED.

SO IT'S A MASSIVE INCREASE IN WHAT YOU'RE COMING.

BUT YOU ALREADY KNOW THOSE YOU KNOW THOSE SUBDIVISIONS.

BUT WE HAVEN'T PUT THEM INTO THE MODEL AND UPDATED THE MODEL AND FOUND OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS BRINGING THEM ALL IN.

ONE SECOND.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AND WHAT WE PROVIDED WAS JUST THE NUMBER, THE NUMBER OF CURRENT HOUSES THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OR IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING IS RIGHT NOW 22 OVER 2200.

CURRENTLY, THE CITY HAS RIGHT NOW EIGHT THOUSAND A LITTLE OVER EIGHTY EIGHT OR EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND HOUSES, LITTLE OVER EIGHT HUNDRED EIGHTY EIGHT HUNDRED CONNECTIONS.

SO IN A MATTER OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY WE KNOW IS GOING TO DEVELOP, WE'RE INCREASING THE CITY'S CONNECTION COUNT BY A QUARTER.

RIGHT, BUT YOU ALSO DID THE CAPACITY ACQUISITION FEES ON EACH ONE OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TO CHARGE THEM.

WE WERE DOING THAT TO SEE WHAT THE DEMAND LOAD IS, IF THEY WERE COMING IN INDIVIDUALLY.

WHAT DO WE HAVE? BECAUSE SAY, FOR INSTANCE, I JUST BRING ONE UP.

MUD 78.

THEY WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT, READY TO SIGN.

AND THEY WALKED AWAY.

WALKED AWAY.

SO LOOKING AT A TOTAL LOOK OF WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING, THAT'S LOOKING AT THE TOTAL THING.

MUD 76, THE SAME THING.

ONE OF THE THING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ON IT WAS, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE DATA THAT WE KNOW THAT'S COMING IN THE PAST THREE YEARS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE POPULATION AND THE COUNT.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IN THE IN THE MEETING.

IF YOU REMEMBER ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAN HELP WITH DETERMINING YOUR POPULATION DATA, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND HOW ARE YOU COMING UP WITH THAT DATA? THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE PART OF YOUR TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD SUBMITTAL IS, WHAT IS YOUR PROJECTION? TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR PROJECTION OF YOUR PEOPLE, SO THAT'LL BE ONE.

AGAIN IT'D BE UPDATING YOUR HYDRAULIC MODELS, YOUR FUTURE SYSTEMS, IDENTIFYING DEFICIENCIES.

SO AS WE KEEP GOING AND KEEP PULLING THIS WATER OFF, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF JUST LOOKING AT THE MATERIAL, YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL CAPACITY OF THESE LINES AND HOW WE'RE CIRCULATING THEM OUT OF THE PLAN.

DO WE NEED TO RUN A PERPENDICULAR LINES TO GET WATER OUT OF THE PLAN TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SYSTEM? YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF KIND OF UNKNOWNS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE.

BECAUSE I'LL BE HONEST, THE FACT THAT WE JUST SPENT THE MONEY IN 2017 ON A MASTER UTILITY PLAN AND NOW WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SPEND ANOTHER HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND JUST TO UPDATE THAT MASTER UTILITY PLAN TO ME PROVES MY POINT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH STUDIES.

AND I JUST FIND THAT THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER ON AN UPDATE OF A THREE YEAR STUDY.

BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APPLES TO ORANGES.

THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS AT THE TIME WE WHEN WE DID ALL THAT.

I DIDN'T [INAUDIBLE] BRING IT, BUT WE HAD WE HAD POPULATIONS NOT ONLY FROM WHAT ANGLETON HAD, BUT WHAT BWA HAD WHAT TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAD, WHAT EVERYBODY HAD, AND WE'RE COMPLETELY BLOWN WAY PAST THAT.

WAY PAST THAT.

AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT INDUSTRY EITHER, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW.

TAKE THIS OFF I CAN'T SEE.

[INAUDIBLE] I AGREE JOHN [INAUDIBLE] TAKING AN EXISTING PLAN, HOW MANY YEARS OLD? THREE YEARS.

THREE YEARS OLD [INAUDIBLE] 20 YEARS LATER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL WAS GOING INTO THIS HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY TO SHOW ADDITIONAL DEMANDS ON THE SYSTEM THAT I WOULD

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THINK THE GUTS OF IT'S ALREADY THERE.

IT'S ALSO UPDATING THE GIS ON THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT'S BEEN COMING IN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A PROPOSAL AND I WOULD LIKE I'LL BRING YOU THE PROPOSAL FOR IT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THAT SPELLS OUT EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED IN IT.

WELL, I THINK KIND OF ECHOES [INAUDIBLE] WHEN I SAY A PLAN, I WANT PLAN TO EXECUTE, I DON'T WANT US TO PLAN TO HAVE.

I WANT A.

OK, NOW LET'S DO, YOU KNOW.

LET'S US MOVE.

AND I KNOW DIRT DOESN'T MOVE ITSELF.

I KNOW IT COSTS TIME AND MONEY AND RESOURCES AND ALL THAT.

BUT I MEAN, BUT I WANT US TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PROJECT.

IT NEEDS TO BE I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'LL BE SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IS WHERE WE'RE INSTEAD OF STUDYING, STUDYING, KEEP STUDYING, STUDYING IT.

WELL, THESE PROJECTS GONNA TAKE ANOTHER 20 YEARS TO EXECUTE FULLY TO GET ALL THESE.

WELL, APPARENTLY.

WE ONLY GET THREE YEARS AT HYPERINFLATION, BASICALLY.

I MEAN.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS MONEY.

AND AS MR. PETERSON JUST POINTED OUT, EVERYTHING CHANGED IN THREE YEARS THAT IT MAKES THE STUDY MUTE AND WE DIDN'T' GET IT.

I DON'T THINK WE IMPLEMENT ANYTHING OFF THAT STUDY, DID WE? WE USE WE USE THAT ALL THE TIME ON THE CAPACITY ACQUISITION FEES.

THERE IS A WORKING MODEL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO REBUILD THAT MODEL.

MODEL IS THERE, JUST NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

WELL, FOR THE.

FOR ALL OF ALL OF OUR PIPES THAT ARE DETERIORATING AND FAILING EVERY DAY, I MEAN, TO DIG ALL THOSE UP AND HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO REPLACE ALL THE LINES? IF WE ARE FULLY FUNDED? IF YOU WERE FULLY FUNDED, IT DEPENDS ON HOW AGGRESSIVE COUNCIL WANTS, I MEAN YOU COULD PUT OUT MULTIPLE BID PACKAGES IF THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW.

OH, BUT TYPICALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE 30, 40 YEARS.

I MEAN, THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS REBUILDING HALF OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

CORRECT.

YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE NOT SAYING WE NEED TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT BY ANY STRETCH OF IMAGINATION.

LIKE CHRIS SAID, HE WANTS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES.

HERE'S ALL THE ISSUES.

AND TO COME UP WITH A PATH FORWARD OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ATTACK IT AND WHAT THE CITY IS COMFORTABLE ON TACKING IT ON A BASIS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO DO EVEN FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, GOING TO DO A FIVE BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT EVERY FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW AND DO IT LIKE THAT.

BUT WHAT CHRIS IS TRYING TO DO IS IDENTIFY ALL THE DEFICIENCIES SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF IT.

SO IF YOU DO GO OUT TO SOME SORT OF A BONDING PROGRAM THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU TAKE THIS FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, FOR INSTANCE, AND JUST HOLDING NUMBER, AND THEN WE GOT OTHER ISSUES IN THERE.

AND CHRIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT CHRIS, CHRIS WHAT WHAT IS GOING ON? YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE [INAUDIBLE] EDUCATED, THERE'S DOUBT THAT THERE'S.

I APPRECIATE YOU NOT BEING THE DARK, SAY, OH, I WISH I HAD KNOWN ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF.

THE KIND OF THE QUESTION TO THE QUESTION IS, SO LET'S JUST SAY WE MOVE THIS FORWARD.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET FUNDING TILL PROBABLY TWENTY TWENTY THREE.

AND THEN BY THE TIME YOU BID IT OUT AND START EXECUTING, I MEAN, THIS IS THIS PROGRAM ALONE, LET'S SAY WE BORROW TWENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.

IT'S A IT'S A FIVE YEAR PLUS PROGRAM TO DO ALL IMPLEMENT ALL THESE FIXES.

I JUST I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING THE PLAN TONIGHT.

I WANT TO SEE KIND OF AS COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND POINTED OUT, LIKE AN ACTION PLAN, HERE'S THE AMOUNTS.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FOR IT AND HERE'S WHEN WE'RE GONNA.

THIS IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND GET THESE BONDS.

AND I WANT TO SEE IT.

I'M A NUMBERS GUY, SO I WANT TO SEE THE DEBT SERVICE AND HOW THAT CALCULATES.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT IS TO THE CITIZENS BEFORE WE SPEND ALL THIS MONEY BEFORE NOT KNOWING TRULY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT I KNOW IT'S ALL A SUMMATION OF HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN BORROW.

BUT I CAN'T GET YOU THAT UNLESS WE SPEND THIS MONEY TO GET THOSE NUMBERS.

YOU CAN BALLPARK IT, THOUGH.

I MEAN, YOU CAN GIVE US HIGH CASE.

LOW CASE, YOU KNOW.

I CAN'T, SOMEONE LIKE JOHN CAN, SO AGAIN, USING THE LIFT STATION'S EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT NUMBERS TWO MILLION DOLLARS OR SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS OR

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TEN MILLION DOLLARS.

AND SO UNTIL I GET ALL THOSE NUMBERS, LIKE I SAID, I'LL WE'LL COME BACK AT IT IN, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS AND SAY, HERE'S THE TOTAL BILL TO FIX EVERYTHING IN A PERFECT WORLD.

HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE.

AND YOU ALL WILL DECIDE THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT SAME CONVERSATION OF IF WE PICK 25 MILLION DOLLARS OR 50 MILLION DOLLARS, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR OUR DEBT SERVICE OR WATER RATE OR SEWER RATE TO GET IT SOLVING THAT PROBLEM? AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL WILL DECIDE.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO PRESENT THE OPTIONS AND THE IMPACT AND Y'ALL WILL DECIDE THE PLAN AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD NEXT YEAR.

SO I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE PATH OF THE PLAN.

GOT TO BE PATIENT WITH ME A LITTLE BIT.

SO TONIGHT, AS FAR AS ACTION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? SO I'M LOOKING I'M LOOKING FOR YOU TO AUTHORIZE WHAT'S THE NUMBER, BUT MINUS THE MASTER UTILITY PLAN.

IT'S LIKE 350 RIGHT AROUND 350 THOUSAND.

SO I'M ASKING FOR THREE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND, GIVE OR TAKE A DOLLAR OR TWO TO EXECUTE THOSE.

I'M SORRY, CHRIS, I'M SORRY CHRIS.

YEAH, IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.

THAT WAS ONLY IN THE FUTURE.

SO SAY.

IT'S ALL IN THE FUTURE.

GET MY NUMBERS CONFUSING.

BUT EXECUTE THE.

WE HAVE FOUR HUNDRED.

JUST THIS IS ONLY WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT QUESTION.

SO FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND.

LET'S JUST GIVE OR SAY WITH A ZERO BUDGET.

NO, WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT FUNDS RIGHT.

WE CAN TAKE UP TO I THINK.

FUND ONE TWENTY EIGHT.

[INAUDIBLE] FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS [INAUDIBLE].

ALTHOUGH I WOULD.

BE NICE TO SAY SOMETHING.

WHY CAN'T WE I GUESS WHY WE'VE BEEN WHY HAVEN'T WE'VE BEEN USING THAT MONEY TO FIX THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN I MEAN, STARTING YOU KNOW, WE JUST DID TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THE BUDGET.

BUT I MEAN, APPARENTLY THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE.

THIS SHOULD BE THE FOCUS OF OUR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, AND WE SHOULD BE PUSHING MORE MONEY INTO FIXING THESE WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES, HELPING US TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN GO INTO GOING FOR THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THE BIG STUFF.

CAN DO IS CHECK YOUR MAINTENANCE REPORTS.

WHERE ARE YOU'RE HAVING YOUR CLASSES? IS THAT ALL IN A CENTRALIZED LOCATION? THE NEXT IS GOING TO BE ARE YOU BY A BODY OF WATER? AS YOU KNOW, WITH ALL LIKE WE'VE OPENED UP SOME LIFT STATIONS AND THERE'S GRASS AND COKE CANS IN THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST STATION.

PEOPLE AREN'T FLUSHING COKE CANS.

IT'S COMING IN THROUGH A LINE HOLE SOMEWHERE ALONG A DITCH.

SO YOU'RE DRAINING SOME OF THAT WATER.

SO THOSE WOULD BE YOUR HIGHER YOUR HIGHER SIZED PIPES.

THOSE ARE WHAT YOU WANT TO TRY BECAUSE, I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.

THAT WAS WHAT WE HAD.

WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN [INAUDIBLE].

SO LET ME LET ME ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I GAVE HIM THAT DIRECTION.

SO ONE OF HIS PROPOSAL TO DO THE SANITARY SEWER EVALUATION SYSTEM, SMOKE TESTING, FLOW TESTING, ALL THOSE THINGS WAS FOR FOUR HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, WE CAN ADD.

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DONE.

AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM, THE TOTAL SYSTEM AND THE ISSUES WITH THE TOTAL SYSTEM.

BUT AS YOU SAID, IF YOU IF WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT GETTING SOME PROJECTS OUT, AS LONG AS WE KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET THE YEARLY BUDGET YOU WANT TO DO, WE CAN GO AND TALK TO JEFF AND IDENTIFY A PROJECT, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.

I'M JUST THINKING THROUGH THIS.

OKAY, SO LET'S SAY WE GO THROUGH ALL THIS [INAUDIBLE] AND WE DO SAY BUDGET, FIVE MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PROJECT.

OK, BUT THERE'S STILL OTHER THINGS GOING ON, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO JUST.

BE FINE FOR THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS FOR THOSE OTHER PRODUCTS ARE BEING [INAUDIBLE].

SO THAT'S WHAT GOES BACK TO CECIL'S POINT, WHERE WE CAN FIND MONEY IN THE BUDGET THAT CAN BUY US 10 YEARS TILL WE HAVE TO DO, THAT THE YOU KNOW THE 10 MILLION DOLLARS OR 15 MILLION DOLLARS TO GET TO THAT.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE CAN.

OH ABSOLUTELY.

PRIORITIZE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE CAN FIX RIGHT NOW.

WE COULD SAVE A FEW BUCKS, BUT MAYBE ABLE TO STRETCH IT BUY US MAYBE 10, 15 YEARS WHILE WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THESE PROJECTS.

THESE MASTER PROJECTS, THESE BIG PROJECTS WHERE I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, JUST SEEMS LIKE AND WHO KNOWS, MAYBE WE SAVE OURSELVES A LITTLE MONEY.

WE DON'T NEED TO GO GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND DO THE WHOLE PROJECT.

SO I KNOW IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PATCH WORK IT.

NO I KNOW.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE SOME SERIOUS MAKE SOME SERIOUS INVESTMENTS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE CAN SAVE OURSELVES, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE WE ADDRESS ONE ISSUE [INAUDIBLE] ISSUE A, ISSUE B IS GOING TO GO AWAY.

IT'S NOT, IT'S STILL GONNA BE THERE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THIS SUMMER.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A RATE STUDY.

AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO TELL US IS KIND OF SAID THE STUDY WORD.

BUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO TELL US IS IF WE'RE FUNDING OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER AT THE LEVEL WE NEED TO, TO NOT ONLY SUSTAIN OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS, BUT, LIKE YOU SAID, BUY FOR THE FUTURE.

SO IF WE'RE MAKING IF WE'RE BREAKING EVEN ON EXPENSES VERSUS REVENUE, THEN WE'RE NOT SAVING FOR THE FUTURE.

WE'RE NOT PUTTING THAT MONEY AWAY SO THAT EVERY YEAR WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, TWO MILE, TWO LINEAR MILES OF SEWER.

SO THAT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO DO THIS.

SO WE CAN COME BACK.

AND AGAIN, WHEN WE HAVE WE FINISH THIS, WE'RE GOING TO SAY IF WE WANT TO DO TWO MILES A YEAR AND THE COST IS X, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE WATER RATE OR THE SEWER RATE IS INCREASED BY THIS AMOUNT SO THAT WE CAN FUND THAT ADDITIONAL PROJECT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT FUNDING THAT.

SUSIE, WHEN DO WE DO THE RATE STUDY? 2010? AND AFTER THREE YEARS, IT WAS BROKEN.

NO ONE COULD USE IT.

DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ENGINEERING FIRM IT DID IT FOR US.

HGR DID IT AND.

AND I STILL HAVE IT.

BUT NOBODY CAN USE IT.

YOU CAN USE IT.

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

AND IT COST YOU ABOUT THE SAME JUST TO GET A NEW ONE.

THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU SAY STUDIES, I HEAR IT AND I'VE BEEN AROUND HERE LONG ENOUGH, I'VE SEEN THE STUDIES ALREADY COME THROUGH AND DOING THEM AGAIN.

SO IT JUST THAT'S WHY [INAUDIBLE].

SO IN A STUDY LIKE THAT, THAT'S BASED ON, YOU KNOW, LABOR RATES, THAT'S BASED ON COST.

THAT'S BASED ON A NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS.

AND ALL OF THOSE VARIABLES HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2010.

BUT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.

SIZABLE THAT YOU COULD YOU COULD PUT IN PERIMETERS AND IT WOULD SPIT OUT WHAT IT SHOULD BE BASED OFF OF CIP INPUTS AND OFF OF, YOU KNOW, TOTAL NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS.

AND I MEAN, IT FIGURED ALL THAT FOR YOU.

AND IT WAS SIZABLE.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO GROW WITH US, BUT IT DIDN'T.

BUT, JOHN, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS STUDY WILL ONLY WORK IF COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION PUSHES IT THROUGH.

WE HAD A RATE STUDY AND THEY TOLD US WHAT WE HAD TO INCREASE FOR THE FOLLOWING FIVE YEARS AND COUNCIL CHOSE NOT TO.

SO, I MEAN, YOU CAN HAVE IT, BUT IF YOU.

UTILIZE IT AND YOU DON'T.

AND I REMEMBER THE ACTIONS, THE REASON THE COUNCIL DIDN'T DO IT WAS BECAUSE THE 10 PERCENT INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR FROM BWA ATE UP ALL THE INCREASES WE WERE EXPECTING.

BUT WE DID PUT THE CIPS AND SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE AND WITHOUT THOSE INCREASES, THAT COUNCIL DID NOT APPROVE.

[02:35:01]

THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE NOT DONE.

THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] WERE NOT DONE.

SO, I MEAN, IT WAS NOT THE RATE STUDY THAT DID NOT WORK.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SET YOUR MIND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THE TOOLS THAT YOU HAVE TO IMPROVE YOUR CITY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A RATE STUDY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, COUNCIL HAS TO COMMIT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE IMPROVEMENTS AND PUT THE CIP PROJECTS IN THE DEBT SERVICE IN THAT STUDY AND COME UP WITH THAT RATE THAT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT STUDY.

I AGREE.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU FROM A SHOW OF HANDS ON COUNCIL, HOW MANY OF Y'ALL KNEW WE HAD A RATE STUDY DONE AND WE HAD A FILE? IT DIDN'T GET BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.

ONLY CERTAIN OF US, YOU KNOW, MAYOR AND MYSELF PROBABLY KNEW ABOUT IT.

BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE HERE 10 YEARS AGO.

WELL, I'LL SAY THIS JUST AS A AS.

MORE IS A RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN SHOW ME A PLAN OF ACTION AND YOU CAN SHOW ME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, RAISING TAXES AND DOING STUFF LIKE THAT, NOT POPULAR, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PRODUCE, PEOPLE CAN TAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THEY'RE GETTING A TANGIBLE RESULT.

AND SO I KNOW THIS STUDY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RAISING TAXES, BUT I'M SAYING IN THE LONG TERM, THE STUDY COMES BACK AND SAYS, WELL, WE NEED TO RAISE OUR WATER RATES OR WHATEVER, PEOPLE CAN START.

I THINK IT WON'T BE EASY, BUT IF YOU KNOW THE END RESULT IS YOU GET A BETTER PRODUCT, THEN IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S MOVING SOMETHING.

SO I THINK THAT'S A LOT EASIER TO SELL TO PEOPLE THAN IT IS TO THINK ABOUT [INAUDIBLE].

CHRIS, WHAT'S THE MINIMUM YOU NEED TONIGHT? 450? I THINK IT'S 457.

ARE WE'RE GOING TO GET A DISCOUNT? MAKE IT 450, I'M NEGOTIATING.

MAKE IT EVEN NUMBERS.

WE LIKE THE 350 BETTER.

MASTER UTILITY PLAN AND NOW WHATEVER THE NUMBER, THE EXACT NUMBER THAT IS? HOW MUCH THAT COST THREE YEARS AGO? IT'S FOUR FIFTY SEVEN.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FUND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS STUDY.

AND POSSIBLE FUNDING THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD TO THE TUNE OF FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

EVERYTHING BUT THE WHAT IS IT THE [INAUDIBLE].

WITH I ASSUME WILL BE TAKING OUT OF FUND BALANCE.

COUNCIL? I WILL SECOND IT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR TOWNSEND.

MAYOR TOWNSEND.

COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, A SECOND COUNCILMAN GONGORA TO APPROVE THE STUDY TO THE TUNE OF FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND [INAUDIBLE] FOR FUND BALANCE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND WE'LL REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL WHEN THEY'RE DONE AS PART OF OUR [INAUDIBLE] TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD APPLICATION DUE IN MARCH OF 2022.

SO THIS IS JUDITH, I'M STILL ON.

[02:40:02]

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE'VE LOST VIDEO.

WE CANNOT SEE YOU, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

BUT MR. BOOTH, COULD YOU PLEASE GET CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE? YES, MA'AM THANK YOU.

SOMETHING'S UP WITH THE VIDEO.

ALL RIGHT, FIRST NIGHT AND NEW SYSTEM.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ITEM NUMBER TWENTY SEVEN DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROPOSAL FROM

MOTION CARRIES.

[27. Discussion and possible action on a proposal from HDR, Inc. for the design, bid, and construction phase services of the CR220 Utility Extension.]

HDR FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES OF THE COUNTY ROAD 220 UTILITY EXTENSION [INAUDIBLE].

THE DEVELOPER FOR THE RESERVE THAT'S COMING BEFORE COUNCIL.

IT WAS ACTUALLY CALLED THE WOODLANDS AT THE TIME, COME AND REQUEST UTILITY SERVICES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT HE HAS.

WE HAVE DONE A CAF FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THE CAF FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, A LITTLE OVER THREE MILLION DOLLARS.

THE CITY HAS TO EXTEND THE LINE OUT TO THEM UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD TRACKS, CONTINUING ON DOWN TO THE WEST.

AND WE'LL ALSO EXTEND THE WATER LINE.

FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR ON THE UTILITY AGREEMENT, THE DEVELOPER HAS STATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY ONE POINT, THE FIRST HALF OF IT WHENEVER WE START CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S ONE POINT FIVE, A LITTLE OVER ONE POINT FIVE MILLION TO THE CITY.

AND THEN AT THE COMPLETION WILL PAY THE OTHER ONE POINT FIVE [INAUDIBLE] IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

THE TOTAL COST FOR THIS PROJECT, FOR ENGINEERING AND FOR CONSTRUCTION IS ONE POINT THIRTY EIGHT.

SO THE FIRST PAYMENT WILL COVER THE COST.

THE REST OF THE MONEY GETS COLLECTED, GOES INTO THE DEBT SERVICE OF THE IMPACT FEE ON COUNTY ROAD 220 WHERE THIS IS, DEVELOPMENTS OCCURRING IN.

SO THERE'S AN ESTABLISHED IMPACT FEE IN THERE THAT THE CITY HAS PUT IN A LIFT STATION.

WATER LINE EXTENSIONS LOOP THE WATER LINE AND TO THE OTHER SIDE OF 288B WITH THE WATER PLANT OVER THERE AT THE JAMISON TO GET GOOD FLOW.

SO ALL THOSE COSTS WERE CREATED, WRAPPED UP INTO A IMPACT [INAUDIBLE] ZONE AND THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO THE OR WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING, BUT HAS VERBALLY AGREED TO THE THREE MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF FEES.

SO IT WOULD COVER THE CONSTRUCTION, THE ENGINEERING AND THE CITY WOULD HAVE A LITTLE OVER ONE POINT FIVE MILLION TO PAY THE DEBT SERVICES ON THE IMPROVEMENTS DONE IN [INAUDIBLE] ZONE.

MR. [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THIS.

FIRST IS THE FUNDS REQUESTED IS TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ONE POINT THREE IN CONSTRUCTION COST AND THE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND TO PAY FOR THE ENGINEERING? YES, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN AND INSPECTION.

ONE POINT ONE SEVEN NINE MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

ALL IN.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO PAY THI MONEY, HALF OF IT UP FRONT OF THE THREE MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE GUN SHY AT THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS HERE A YEAR AGO AND DISAPPEARED ON US.

AND THEN I HAPPENED TO CONTACT MATT HANKS WITH THE COUNTY TODAY AND FOUND OUT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH COUNTY.

HE HASN'T BEEN TO COUNTY YET AND HE HAS NOT RECEIVED HIS HE HAS TO GO BEFORE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO GET APPROVAL FOR HAVING A MOBILE HOME RENTAL LOCATION.

IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE PERMITTED BY THE COUNTY AND IT HASN'T COME TO THEM YET.

AND I'M A LITTLE GUN SHY MOVING FORWARD ON THIS UNTIL HE HAS CHECKED ALL HIS BOXES AND IS READY TO GO.

AND I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM NOR THE PLAN COME BACK BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME IT'S CHANGING A LITTLE BIT NOW.

SO OUR ATTORNEY IS ACTIVELY WORKING AN DEVELOP AGREEMENT AMONG THREE OR FOUR RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE ONGOING.

AND SO THIS WOULD REALLY BE PENDING ON APPROVAL, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND IT'S YOU KNOW, JOHN DIDN'T TELL ALL THE THINGS, BUT THERE'S SOME EASEMENT ISSUES THAT WE'VE WORKED OUT.

BUT WE'LL NEED TO GO FORWARD AND CEMENT AS PART OF AGREEMENTS TO RUN THE WATER LINE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

MR. WRIGHT, CAN YOU REPEAT YOU'VE MENTIONED THE NAME OF THE PERSON AT THE COUNTY.

[02:45:04]

MATT HANKS COUNTY ENGINEER.

WE HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED THE PLANS FROM THEIR ENGINEERS AND WE'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THOSE.

NO PROBLEM.

SO WE DO HAVE THOSE THOSE COMMENTS WILL BE OUT WEDNESDAY.

SO THE CITY IS WORKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

WE ARE REVIEWING THE PLANS, THEIR ENGINEERS IS PUSHING.

YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO GET THIS DONE NOW.

WE DON'T HAVE THE INTERACTION WITH THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT COULD BE PART OF THE .

I UNDERSTAND.

OF THE CONTINGENCY OF APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD IS THAT.

SO MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO APPROVE IT PENDING THE FINALIZATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

WHAT IS THE RESERVE OR THE WOODLANDS? I THINK IT'S 700 SPACES.

WAS.

SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 220.

THE ADVANTAGE TO US IS HE'S PAYING FOR ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS.

PLUS IT PUTS A WATER LINE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WHICH HELPS US AGAIN FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

YES, HE IS.

IT'S AT THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF COUNTY ROAD 220, WHICH IS AIRPORT ROAD IN THE [INAUDIBLE].

DON, WHERE IS THE EXISTING WATER MAIN? WATER MAINS ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

WATER MAINS ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

SO THIS GUY CAN GET SERVICE WATER FROM WHERE IT IS TODAY.

SO IT'S NOT ESSENTIAL THAT WE PUT A WATER LINE ON THE NORTH AT 220 AT THIS TIME.

THERE ARE NO DEVELOPMENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 220, WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT ARE ASKING FOR WATER TODAY.

NO, NO DEVELOPMENT.

BUT THE LANDOWNERS ARE REQUESTING THAT THAT COMES THROUGH FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

THEY [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.

THEY'RE READY TO KICK IN SOME MONEY OR NOT? THEY WILL WHEN THEY TIE IN.

AND THAT MAY BE 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

IT COULD BE.

I DON'T SEE A NEED TO PUT WATER LINE UP THERE UNTIL THEY UNTIL THEY START DRILLING SOME CHANGE.

BUT THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAD TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT IS WHEN YOU HAVE THESE IMPACT FEE ZONES.

CORRECT.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DEVELOP, WE HAVE TO BRING THAT WATER LINE TO THEM, SAY YOU GET SOMEBODY THAT HAS AN INDUSTRIAL LAY DOWN PART.

AND THEY ONLY HAVE TWO OR THREE CONNECTIONS THAT THEY NEED TO RUN THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE OFFICE BUILDING.

BUT INSTEAD OF TO GET THAT WATER TO HIM IN THE SEWER TO HIM, THAT WOULD BE ONE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS WHERE YOU WOULD ONLY COLLECT MAYBE 15,000.

THIS WAS THIS GUY'S COME TO THE CITY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WE HAVE TO RUN THE SANITARY SEWER ACROSS ON THAT NORTH SIDE ANYWAYS.

WHILE WE'RE THERE, RUN THE WATER ALONG WITH IT.

SO YOU ONLY GO THROUGH THE LANDOWNER'S PROPERTY ONE TIME AND IT'S PART OF THE YOU GET THAT PUT IN WHILE YOU HAVE A PARTNER.

BUT THAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPACT FEE ZONE.

AND THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN SPEND THE MONEY COLLECTED IS IN THAT ZONE CANNOT REUSE THAT MONEY ANYWHERE ELSE.

SO THE IDEA WAS GO AHEAD AND TRY TO GET AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET DONE WHILE YOU HAVE A FUNDING PARTNER, BECAUSE THE NEXT PERSON DOWN THE LINE, IT MAY BE A LAY DOWN, IT MAY BE NOT MUCH WATER UTILITIES.

YOU HAVE TO EXTEND IT DOWN THERE AND IT COST YOU JUST SAY EVEN IF IT COST YOU THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND, FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND TO GET THAT WATER DOWN.

I'M LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RUNNING THE LINES WHERE IT GOES, ASSUMING EVERYTHING TIES OFF BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN AN UP AND DOWN PROJECT AND IT DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE FINAL APPROVALS YET.

SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY WORD.

THE MY SAME MY SAME OPINION GOES WITH THE SANITARY SEWER, WHEN PUTTING THE SANITARY SEWER UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS WILL LEAVE A MANHOLE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS STUBBED OUT FOR FUTURE SERVICE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 220.

WE'RE BRINGING ALL AROUND TO SERVICE.

THIS CURRENT DEVELOPMENT, AND WHEN THE PEOPLE GO TO DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY UP THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE, WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND IT DOWN AT THAT TIME.

YOUR PROPOSAL IS TAKING A HALF A MILE DOWN COUNTY ROAD 220 TO DITCH WHATEVER THAT IS AND COMING ACROSS.

[02:50:02]

AND IT'S.

IT'S NOT SERVING ANYBODY, WE'VE ALREADY GO A LIFT STATION OUT THERE SERVING.

WE SPENT A BUNCH OF MONEY AND HAVE IT RECUPERATED [INAUDIBLE].

AND WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ON THAT.

AND AGAIN, THE REASON WHY THAT WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD AS WE DID WAS JUST FOR THE REASON IS, WHILE YOU GOT A FUNDING PARTNER.

YOU CAN'T MOVE THAT MONEY ANYWHERE ELSE.

IT'S MORE THAT IMPACT FEES AREA, IS GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN.

WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE COMES AND DEVELOPS ON THE NORTH SIDE LIKE WE WERE DISCUSSING, THEY, TOO, HAVE TO PAY AN IMPACT FEE.

BUT YOU JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS HEAVY USE AS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING NOW.

SO IT'S WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EXACTLY.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT I TALKED TO JEFF TALKED TO CHRIS ABOUT WAS THAT BUT THE STAFF SAID, WELL, WE GOT THE MONEY, THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT.

IF THEY FOLLOW THROUGH, LIKE YOU SAID, LET'S PUT THAT IN THERE.

THAT OPENS UP THE DEVELOPMENT UP THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THIS COMES ON THE HEELS OF THIS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND IN TOWN IN OUR HOUSE.

THIS IS NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THIS IS OUTSIDE THE CITY.

UNLESS WE AGREE TO ANNEX.

THE PEOPLE ON THE NORTH SIDE [INAUDIBLE].

WAS GOING WITH THAT, WHAT NEXT WAS THE FACT THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T DECIDED WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS YET.

WE DON'T IF WE'RE GOING TO ANNEX THEM OR IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THEM AT THE HIGHER RATE BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND WE GET MORE MONEY ON THE WATER AND SEWER.

IF IT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY.

I'M SORRY? DO THE CITY HAVE TO ANNEX SOMEBODY IF THEY ASKED TO BE ANNEXED? NO.

WELL THAT HASN'T BEEN PART OF THIS DEAL THAT HE'S AGREED TO.

THEY'VE AGREED TO THE HIGHER WATER RATE AND THE SEWER RATE.

SO THE DISCUSSION I REMEMBER I THINK, FROM LAST SUMMER WAS THAT WE WEREN'T INTERESTED IN MAINTAINING ROADS AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF WAS JUST ABOUT PROVIDING THEM WATER AND THE FACT THAT ALL THESE UPGRADES AND ADDITIONS WERE NO COST TO THE CITY.

AND THE COUNTY JUST ADOPTED TODAY NEW STANDARDS FOR ANYTHING.

IN THE COUNTY FOR ROADS AND THE STANDARDS THAT THEY'VE IMPLEMENTED ARE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE STRINGENT.

SO HIS COSTS PROBABLY JUST WENT UP.

THE THICKNESS OF THE ROADS IS GOING TO BE INCREASED AND A LOT OF OTHER ASPECTS, SO.

IS THIS, LIKE INTENDED TO.

LIKE I SEE DOWN IN OYSTER CREEK AND OTHER AREAS WHERE THEY TRY TO TRACK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WORKED OUT OF THE PLANTS OR THIS A FROM PEOPLE WHO MOVED THE JOBS ONE JOB TO ANOTHER.

[INAUDIBLE] LIKE THESE SMALL HOMES.

YOU BUY A MOBILE HOME AND YOU PUT IT IN HIS PLACE.

I REMEMBER THE WHOLE SPILL WAS HE HAD DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT DO THE HOMES AND THEY HAVE MODEL HOMES THERE.

AND THEN YOU CAN PURCHASE ONE FROM THEM AND PUT IT THERE OR YOU CAN TAKE THEM MOBILE HOME AND TAKE IT OFF THE PLACE.

BUT HE HAS A STRICT STANDARDS THAT EVERYONE HAS TO FOLLOW, AND I JUST REMEMBER FROM A YEAR AGO.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY MIND AROUND IT [INAUDIBLE].

COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HOW MUCH, WHERE ARE WHERE ARE WE INTENDING TO BUILD SANITARY SEWER ON THE SOUTH [INAUDIBLE]? THE ORIGINAL IMPACT FEE HAS THE SANITARY SEWER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 220.

AROUND THE FEEDER ROAD, IT GETS DOWN TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE FEEDER ROAD, IT CROSSES AND STOPS IN THE OTHER SIDE.

HOWEVER, WE RECEIVE PLANS FROM THE ENGINEER HE'S ALREADY DESIGNED, WHERE HE'S BRINGING ALL OF HIS SANITARY SEWER OVER TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND HE'S GOING TO BRING A SANITARY SEWER UP THERE.

THEY WERE GOING TO BUY THAT WHERE THAT MANHOLE WAS AT.

THEY WERE GOING TO BUY THAT PROPERTY.

THEY DID NOT BUY THAT PROPERTY.

SO NOW THEY BRING EVERYTHING BACK TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BRING AND JUST DROP A MANHOLE RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS WHERE WE COME TIE IN FROM THE LIFT STATION.

[02:55:08]

BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THE THOUGHT WAS IN TALKING TO STAFF WAS EXTEND THAT LINE WHILE YOU HAVE THE MONEY AND YOU HAVE A PARTNER AND GET IT ALL THE WAY ACROSS, OPENS UP THAT DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH TO WHERE IT MAKES PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND DEVELOP THERE.

DEVELOPER PAYS THAT MONEY.

YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER HALF OF THAT MONEY COMING IN TO PAY YOUR SERVICE THAT YOU ARE YOU'RE PAYING.

AND THAT WAY, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT MONEY AND USE IT ANYWHERE ELSE, IT HAS TO BE IN THAT AREA.

COUNCIL? OUT OF POCKET WORTH TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND [INAUDIBLE]? PLUS THE CONSTRUCTION COST.

THEY'RE PAYING FOR THAT, RIGHT? THEY'RE PAYING FOR YOUR ENGINEERING TOO.

THEY'RE PAYING.

THEY'RE PAYING FOR EVERYTHING.

WE WON'T START THE PROJECT TILL THEY PAY THEIR FIRST HALF.

THE CITY WOULD REQUIRE THE DEBT TO BE REIMBURSED THAT IT GOES ON.

SO, COUNCIL, DO I HAVE A MOTION BY ANYBODY? JUST PLEASE PUT IN YOUR MOTION THE SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL FROM COUNTY AND HOW DO YOU WANT TO SAY IT? I WOULD SAY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

ON APPROVAL OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

I MEAN, HE'S PAYING THREE MILLION INTO THE IMPACT FEE AREA, SO.

CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING IS GOING TO BE HALF OF THAT.

ONE POINT ONE, WHERE DID THE OTHER ONE POINT FIVE GO? THE OTHER ONE POINT FIVE GOES TO WHAT MONEY YOU SPENT ON THE LIFT STATION.

THE DEBT SERVICE.

THE DEBT SERVICE TO ALL THAT AREA.

BUT IT HAS TO BE IN THAT IT CAN'T BE UTILIZED FOR AN INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY SINCE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT STUDIES OR AN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.

SO YOU'RE HAVING THIS ONE POINT THREE HAS TO BE INTO THAT AREA.

BUT YOU COULD TAKE, IF WE DO REDUCE IT, WHICH WE CAN.

NO PROBLEM, THEN THE NUMBER WILL BE CUT ON ENGINEERING AND CUT ON ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, BUT YOU'LL HAVE THE LEFTOVER MONEY THAT HAS TO BE PAID OFF ON DATA IN THERE IN THAT AREA.

IT CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TALKED WITH STAFF, AND THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED TO EXTEND THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN AND AROUND AND GET THAT ALL PUT IN, MAKE THAT AREA INVITING FOR MORE DEVELOPERS IN THERE WHILE YOU HAVE A PARTNER TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.

I MEAN, I GET THAT.

BUT SO WHAT IS THE CITY OUT OF POCKET? NOTHING? RIGHT NOW NOTHING.

IT SAYS FUNDS REQUESTED TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND.

WHAT IS THAT FOR? YOU ARE PAYING THAT UP FRONT, WHICH YOU WILL BE REIMBURSED WHENEVER WE START CONSTRUCTION.

WE DON'T START ANYTHING, THOUGH, TILL HE PAYS US THE FIRST AMOUNT.

I KNOW, I GET THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING [INAUDIBLE].

AND NOTHING HAPPENS TILL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS SIGNED.

WHY NOT? WHAT YEAH, WHAT IS THE? IS THAT A MOTION? WHAT IS THE WHAT'S THE DISADVANTAGE? WHY WOULD WE [INAUDIBLE]? [INAUDIBLE] I MEAN.

WE'RE NOT IN ANY MONEY.

WHAT'S THE.

THERE'S A I GUESS ASSUME THERE'S A SIDE THAT, YOU KNOW [INAUDIBLE].

[03:00:03]

I DON'T SEE A DISADVANTAGE.

WHY NOT GET WHATEVER WE CAN OUT OF THE OUT OF THAT? THAT COULD BENEFIT.

IF HE'S PAYING FOR IT.

NOT NECESSARILY WILL, BUT COULD BENEFIT THE CITY IN THE LONG RUN.

SO YOU'RE HELPING TO CREATE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE SOUTH END [INAUDIBLE] I KIND OF STAND OUT THERE BEYOND.

YES, THAT WAS THE.

THE IDEA THAT IF IN THE FUTURE THERE'S FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S SOMETHING TO TIE INTO.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO [INAUDIBLE] YEAH THE CLIFF'S NOTES VERSION IS WE, WE CREATED A LIVE STATION DOWN THERE AND WE SPENT SUSIE DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH WE SPENT DOWN THERE, THREE MILLION, FOUR MILLION? ON THE LIFT STATION AND THE IMPROVEMENTS DOWN THERE IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN? I THOUGHT IT WAS THREE MILLION.

I THINK IT'S AROUND THREE MILLION.

SO BASICALLY THIS ONE DEVELOPMENT WOULD PAY FOR THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT DOWN THERE BECAUSE WE HAD CAT, WE HAD OTHER PLACE PEOPLE COMING IN OVER THERE.

SO WE HAD TO TIE IN AND IMPROVE THAT AREA.

SO WE DID THAT.

AND BY THIS ONE DEVELOPMENT, IT PAYS FOR THAT WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT DOWN THERE, MINUS.

THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION.

SO YOUR CONCERN IS? WHAT'S YOUR OPPOSITION? THEY'RE GIVING EASEMENTS? NO SIR, PART OF THAT NUMBER.

THE NUMBER THE ONE POINT SOMETHING IS GIVING THEM WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT COMING UP WITH THE PRICE OF, FOR INSTANCE, THE FIRST THE FIRST A PIECE OF LAND IS BOB [INAUDIBLE].

BOB [INAUDIBLE]AND ANOTHER PERSON.

[INAUDIBLE] BOB WANTS SOME CONNECTIONS OUT TO HIM JUST SO HE CAN TIE IT IN THE FUTURE.

THE [INAUDIBLE] WANT THEIR FENCE TO BE MOVED BACK.

THEY WANT TWO SERVICES TWO ISSUE TO THEM, AND THEY WANT YOU TO GIVE MONEY FOR THAT EASEMENT THROUGH THERE, WHICH SHE'S MOVING YOUR THEIR FENCE BACK.

SO BASICALLY, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYBODY'S YARD BECAUSE YOU'RE MOVING THE FENCE BACK.

AND THEN WITH THE [INAUDIBLE], THE [INAUDIBLE]S DID HAVE SOME AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT PREVIOUSLY.

THEY WANTED TWO SERVICE CONNECTIONS AND THEY WANTED AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ANNEXED FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS OR TAX RATE BROUGHT ON TO THEM IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

THEY'RE IN ETJ RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY, ME AND CHRIS HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

IF YOU CAN EVEN BRING THEM INTO THE CITY IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE CITY.

COST TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THESE LANDOWNERS TO GET THE MATERIALS THROUGH THAT, THOSE EASEMENTS.

COUNCIL? COST, THE COST TO BUILD IT TODAY IS [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT COST US ANYTHING, RIGHT? ONLY UP FRONT UNTIL.

BUT THEN WE GET REIMBURSED.

CORRECT.

BUT IT DOESN'T WAS COUNCILMAN BOOTH POINTED OUT, IT DOESN'T FULLY PAY THE DEBT SERVICE OFF.

IT STILL GIVES ABOUT ONE POINT FIVE, TWO MILLION MAYBE LEFT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

BY TIME YOU DO THE THREE MILLION, WE'VE ALREADY SPENT ONE MILLION TO COME ACROSS.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE FOUR.

SO YOU HAVE PAID OFF THE ONE POINT SOMETHING.

AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF.

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I WAS JUST THINKING OF CAT HAD ALREADY PAID ANY MONEY TO.

CAT HAS PAID MONEY.

SO WE'RE LOWERING IT DOWN.

SO THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE, [INAUDIBLE].

BUT THE THING IS, IS LIKE CAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T FOR A LARGE AREA OUT THERE, THEY ONLY HAD ONE ESU.

SO I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE A LAYDOWN YARD, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RECOUP THAT MONEY ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT, I JUST KEEP SAYING IT, BUT WE HAVE TWO MORE AGENDA ITEMS, AND I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE, SO.

I PROPOSE COUNCIL ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL, SUBMIT BY HDR ENGINEERING FOR THE DESIGN BID AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES FOR THE UTILITY EXTENSIONS, TO SERVE OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AT COUNTY ROAD 220 INCLUDE ANGLETON ROAD FOR THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

SUBJECT TO.

SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SUBJECT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND I'LL SECOND IT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ITEM NUMBER TWENTY EIGHT DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MASS GATHERING PERMIT

[28. Discussion and possible action on a Mass Gathering Permit from the Angleton Rotary Club for the Step-Up Supper Drive-Through Fundraiser at Dickey & Bates Parks.]

FROM THE ANGLETON ROTARY CLUB FOR THE STEP UP SUPPER DRIVE THROUGH FUNDRAISER AT THE DICKEY AND BATES PARK [INAUDIBLE].

WE HAVE HAD ANGLETON ROTARY CLUB, APPROACH THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO HOSTING THEIR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER EVENT AT DICKEY AND BATES PARK.

GOOD EVENING.

STRICTLY BATES ONLY FOR TRAFFIC.

THE EVENT WOULD BE CENTRALIZED AT THE DICKEY BATES PAVILION.

WE DO HAVE TRISH THOMPSON ON THE LINE, I BELIEVE, PROMOTED AS A PANELIST SO THAT SHE CAN PRESENT THE FUNDRAISER TO Y'ALL.

SORRY IT SO LATE.

OH, THAT'S OK.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE ATTENDED A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND I'M VERY, VERY IMPRESSED BY THE THOROUGHNESS AND THOUGHTFULNESS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PUTTING INTO YOUR DISCUSSION.

SO AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO AS [INAUDIBLE] MENTIONED, MY NAME IS TRISH THOMPSON.

I'M THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR ME GLOBAL.

IN MY DAY JOB, ONE OF MY PASSIONS IS ROTARY.

AND IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.

AND I'LL HAVE TO REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE TWO CITY EMPLOYEES, MEGAN AND CHRIS, WHO ARE MEMBERS.

THEY JUST DO A PHENOMENAL JOB REPRESENTING YOUR CITY.

SO THIS IS ANGLETON ROTARY'S 70TH YEAR OF OPERATIONS.

AND SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WHAT WE WEREN'T EXCITED ABOUT WAS HAVING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO A FUNDRAISER IN THESE CHALLENGING TIMES.

BUT WE THINK WE FIGURED OUT A PRETTY GOOD PLAN THAT WILL ALLOW US TO STILL RAISE SOME MONEY FOR THE COMMUNITY PROJECTS AND SCHOLARSHIPS THAT ROTARY PROVIDES IN THOSE.

IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS TO COMMUNITY PROJECTS LIKE THE PLAYGROUND AT [INAUDIBLE] PARK AND MANY OTHER INITIATIVES, AND THEN, OF COURSE, SCHOLARSHIPS FOR AISD STUDENTS.

SO IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT THIS IS JUST A FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION TO BE A PART OF.

I SEE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS IN MY IN MY DAY JOB AND THERE ARE VERY FEW THAT HAVE THE MEMBERSHIP AND THE VALUES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ROTARY DO.

SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER AS A DRIVE THROUGH LUNCH ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER TWENTY SEVENTH AT BATES DICKEY PARK.

AND SO WE'VE CONSULTED WITH ANGLETON PD.

WE'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH ANGLETON EMS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THE EVENT AND HAVE SERVICES AVAILABLE.

WE CERTAINLY HOPE WE DON'T NEED THEM AND WE PLANNED IT IN A WAY THAT WE CAN ADHERE TO COVID PROTOCOLS BY HAVING OUR VOLUNTEERS APPROPRIATELY SPACED, WEARING CORRECT PPE MASKS, GLOVES.

THE FOOD WILL BE PREPARED OFFSITE, OUR CATERER'S ON THE RIVER, WHICH I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

AND SO THEY'LL BE BRINGING THE FOOD IN AND WE'LL BE ONLY DOING IT AS A TO GO MEAL.

THERE WON'T BE ANY FOOD CONSUMED ON SITE.

WELL, THERE MIGHT BE SOME FOOD CONSUMED ON SITE, BUT IT WON'T BE THE INTENTION ISN'T FOR IT TO BE A SIT DOWN DINNER.

SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS ABOUT THIS EVENT.

WE HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WE CERTAINLY SAW WITH [INAUDIBLE] ROTARY CLUBS, RECENT FUNDRAISER THEIR

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SHRIMP BOIL IN LAKE JACKSON.

THEY HAD SO MUCH SUPPORT THAT THEY RAN OUT OF FOOD.

AND THAT'S A PROBLEM, BUT KIND OF A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

SO I THINK PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO SUPPORT THEIR COMMUNITY.

THEY WANT TO GET OUT AND EXPERIENCE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND I THINK USING A TEMPLATE THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND BY OTHERS, I UNDERSTAND THE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION DID A SIMILAR FUNDRAISER AT THE PARK EARLIER THIS YEAR.

SO WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD LEARNINGS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AND WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS WILL BE THERE TO STAFF IT.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I HAVE A QUESTION TRISH.

SURE.

HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION FOR THAT SATURDAY? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY RUN TOURNAMENTS OUT THERE NEARLY EVERY WEEKEND, HAVE SOME VARIATION OR FORM.

IT'S EITHER.

YES, CITY STAFF ACTUALLY DID TOUCH BASE WITH TODD PATTERSON REGARDING USE.

WE WERE INITIALLY ASKED FOR USE OF THE CONCESSION STANDS, SO WE IMMEDIATELY CONTACT THE ASSOCIATIONS FOR CONFLICTS.

THEY DID TELL US THAT THEY WOULD BE HAVING GAMES DURING THAT TIME, WHICH IS WHY ROTARY PROPOSED AN ALTERNATE LOCATION BEING THE DICKEY PAVILION.

OK, I JUST.

YES, TRUE.

BUT THAT IS ONE THING [INAUDIBLE] SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH ROTARY.

HOWEVER.

THEY MAY WANT TO ADVERTISEMENT IN THERE WHILE YOU GOT THEM THERE.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY PLAN SOME EXTRA FOOD FOR HUNGRY SOFTBALL PARENTS.

I'VE BEEN THERE, TOO.

YEAH, I'M SURE.

SURE WILL BE THERE.

I'D RATHER HAVE ON THE RIVER THAN CONCESSION STAND FOOD.

I LIKE THE TRAFFIC PLAN.

IT DOES MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE SOFTBALL GOING AROUND THE PARK.

WHERE, SO THE SERVICE POINT IS AT DICKEY PARK USING THEIR PAVILION AND HANDED IT OFF THERE AND THEN THEY JUST DRIVE OUT ALL THE WAY AROUND THROUGH BATES OUT TO, OUT PARK ROAD, BASICALLY.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

SO IT'S A ONE WAY PATH.

WE WON'T HAVE ANY DIFFERENT.

STREAMS OF TRAFFIC TRYING TO MERGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND WE PLAN ON HAVING SEVERAL DISTRIBUTION STATIONS ALONG THE ROAD SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THERE QUICKLY, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT ANYBODY NOT FEELING GOOD ABOUT ROTARY WHEN THEY LEAVE EITHER.

AND TRISH.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE SARAH OPENED UP HER FACILITY FOR VOLUNTEER OVERFLOW PARKING SO WE WOULDN'T CONGEST THAT AREA WITH ADDITIONAL VOLUNTEER PARKING.

COUNCIL? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLAN OF ACTION FOR THE MASS GATHERING PERMIT FROM THE ANGLETON ROTARY CLUB FOR THE STEP UP SUPPER DRIVE THROUGH FUNDRAISER AT BATES DICKEY PARK.