Apr 12, 2021 Parks & Recreation Board

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IT'S 7:13.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER ]

[1. Consideration and discussion on the Minutes from the Parks and Recreation Board meeting on February 8, 2021. ]

AYE. [INAUDIBLE] ITEM NUMBER TWO, PRESENTATION OF LAKESIDE PARKS NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.

[2. Presentation on Lakeside Park’s natural environment. ]

SO, BILL I WILL HAND IT OVER TO YOU TO WALK EVERYONE THROUGH THIS LINE.

DO YOU NEED ME TO COME DOWN THERE OR DO IT FROM HERE? YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.

ADVANCING THE.

SO CAN WE GET THAT BIGGER? THERE YOU GO.

SO I'M BILL AHLSTROM, IF YOU DON'T KNOW ME, I'M ON THE PARK'S BOARD, I'M ALSO A TEXAS MASTER NATURALIST AND I SERVE ON THEIR BOARD AND I'M AN AQUATICS INSTRUCTOR FOR TEXAS PARKS WILDLIFE. AND.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THIS.

THERE WE GO. OK, THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES I'VE COLLECTED OVER TIME, I GO OUT THERE AND PLAY WHEN I'M BORED AND DO OTHER COOL THINGS, BUT IT JUST SHOWS VERSATILITY, THE PARK AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S IMPORTANCE AS A NATURAL AREA TO, I THINK, THE WHOLE COUNTY AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF FUN WHEN WE GET IT BUILT AND WE DO OUR ADDITIONS TO IT.

THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES SHOWING THE FLOWERS.

THE BIRDS, LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE GROUP OF SHOREBIRDS THAT LIVE OUT THERE AND THE BASS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LAKE THAT WE FOUND, THEY'RE ALL NICE BASS, TOO, BY THE WAY.

DOES IT TAKE [INAUDIBLE] THAN. I'M GOING THE RIGHT WAY, RIGHT? HERE WE GO. SO THIS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE SOME WETLANDS ARE GOING TO BE AND YOU CAN SEE THE ASSORTMENT OF BIRDS AND I KIND OF CONCENTRATE ON BIRDS IN THESE VIEWS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THIS IS MIGRATORY SEASON IN THE SPRING FOR FOUR BIRDS OF ALL KINDS AND ALSO IN THE FALL AND PROBABLY DON'T REALIZE IT.

BUT THERE'S A SPRING FLING GOING ON DOWN AT QUINTANA.

AND EVERY DAY THERE'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE DRIVING RIGHT PAST ANGLETON FROM ENGLAND.

WE HAVE THEM FROM GERMANY, WE HAVE THEM FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT ARE COMING DOWN THERE TO JUST SEE THE BIRDS IN QUINTANA.

AND YOU'LL HAVE SOME GOOD BIRDING UP HERE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN ALL THE PLANTS TAKE HOLD AND WE GET A VARIETY OF SOME GARDENS IN LIKE HUMMINGBIRD GARDENS.

AND IN ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, WE'LL PROBABLY BECOME A HOT SPOT ON EBIRD, WHICH IS WHAT ALL BIRDERS LOOK LIKE.

AND THEY'LL BE THEY'LL BE ATTRACTED TO THIS AREA.

ALL THESE PEOPLE GOING DOWN TO THE BEACH, THEY HAVE MORE THEY HAVE OPTICS AND CAMERAS AND LENSES THAT ARE WORTH MORE THAN MY HOUSE.

AND SO YOU SEE THESE PEOPLE DOWN THERE WITH THE FOUR FOOT LONG LENSES.

YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

WE HAVE ANOTHER AREA.

MAYBE. A LOT OF THESE PICTURES LOOK LIKE THEY WERE TAKEN FROM GROUND LEVEL.

WELL, I'M OLD AND I FALL DOWN A LOT.

SO WHEN I'M DOWN THERE, I TAKE PICTURES.

HELP ME. THERE WE GO.

I WENT TOO FAR. I GUESS IT JUST TAKES A WHILE.

YEAH, THERE YOU GO. THAT'S THE SOUTH SIDE, WE HAVE SOME TEMPORARY WETLANDS THAT ARE VERY SEASONAL, BUT THEY CONTAIN A GREATER NUMBER OF BIRDS AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER, THAT'S ABOUT A TWO FOOT [INAUDIBLE] SWIMMING IN SIX INCHES OF WATER.

BUT THESE EVAPORATE PROBABLY DURING THE SUMMER.

BUT THE PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS SOME INVASIVE SPECIES THAT ARE SHEEPSHEAD MINNOWS, AND THEY TEND TO BREED WITH THE KILLIFISH FISH AND OTHER TYPES OF MINNOWS THAT ARE IN

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AND IN THE FOOD WEB, THE OTHER FISH THAT DEPEND UPON THESE OR THE BIRDS WON'T EAT THEM.

THEY JUST EAT. THEY LIKE TO EAT THE ONES THAT ARE NATURAL TO HERE.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO AIM IT AT THIS RATE.

IT'LL PROBABLY GO DOWN THREE SLIDES.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT? THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF THE GRASSLANDS FROM DIFFERENT VIEWS FROM ALL OVER THE PARK.

I JUST KIND OF LIKE GRASSLANDS.

SO I TOOK SOME PICTURES.

BUT FOR AS FAR AS NATURE GOES, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK, AND I THINK WHEN WE ADD OUR PIERS AND OUR LITTLE GARDENS AND OTHER AREAS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING FANTASTIC. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE WHOLE COUNTY SHARES IN, IF NOT MORE PEOPLE. NEXT.

AND I JUST HAPPEN TO LIKE DRAGONFLIES, SO I TOOK SOME PICTURES OF DRAGONFLIES.

NEXT, NOW WE HAD A FISH SURVEY DONE, INQUIRING MINDS WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE POND, SO. I CONTACTED MY FRIEND, WHO'S ALSO A MASTER NATURALIST AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE BRAZORIA COUNTY PARKS, BRIAN FRASER, BECAUSE HE'S GOT A BOAT AND WE TOOK A 14 FOOT JOHNBOAT DOWN THERE WITH A TROLLING MOTOR ON IT.

AND WE REALIZED THAT, WELL, THERE'S NO PLACE TO LAUNCH A 14 FOOT BOAT DOWN THERE.

SO WE JUST THREW IT OVER THE BANK AND IT LANDED RIGHT SIDE UP.

SO WE WERE PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE CAUGHT SOME ENORMOUS BASS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'VE COME FROM.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN MANAGED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT THERE, BUT THEY HARDLY TOUCH LIVE BAIT.

WE JUST THREW PLASTIC LURES OUT.

I MEAN, WE ONLY FISH FOR LIKE THREE AND A HALF HOURS AND WE CAUGHT 45 BASS WAS ABOUT 70 TO 80 POUNDS WORTH OF BASS.

I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

NEXT PICTURE. THIS IS BRIAN WITH THE FISH, HE CAUGHT SOME OF THEM.

AND NEXT SLIDE. AND THAT'S SOME OF THE BASS I CAUGHT, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT EIGHT POUNDS RIGHT THERE, BUT THIS IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR KID FISHES WHEN WE GET A PIER IN.

AND I'D LIKE TO BE AROUND TO SEE A SEVEN YEAR OLD KID, CHRISTIAN, EIGHT POUND BASS OFF THE PIER. BUT THIS LEAVES SOME CONSIDERATIONS TO GO OVER, LIKE I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS POND WAS SO FULL OF BASS AND WE CAUGHT QUITE A FEW ONE POUND BASS BEFORE THE SPAWNING OCCURRED, WHICH SOMETIMES IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY WILL EAT THE FRY AND THE EGGS AND MAY NEED TO MOVE 15 OR 20 OF THOSE TO ANOTHER LAKE.

BRIAN SAYS HIS LAKE IS AVAILABLE.

SO WE CAN TAKE[INAUDIBLE].

AND THERE'S ALSO POTENTIAL THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN A BAIT FISH YET.

WE TRIED TO CATCH BAIT FISH.

WE TRIED TO LOOK FOR THEM.

I THINK THEY'RE EATING CRAWDADS MOSTLY.

THERE ARE A FEW BLUEGILL MAYBE DOWN AT THE OTHER END WHERE THE NORTH END WHERE THE WETLAND IS. BUT WE MAY WANT TO STALK THESE WITH LIKE FIVE HUNDRED TO FIFTEEN HUNDRED BLUEGILLS JUST TO GIVE THESE GUYS SOME FORAGE.

[INAUDIBLE]. OH, THEY'RE HEALTHY AND THERE WAS I MEAN, THERE WAS NO DISEASE ON THEM AND WE RAN TESTS ON THE WATER.

WE'VE GOT FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE IN OUR GROUP THAT ARE CERTIFIED BY TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

WHEN WE RAN ALL THE CHEMICAL TESTS.

THERE'S NO NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS LOADING FROM FERTILIZERS.

WE DIDN'T DO AN E COLI TEST.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

WE DIDN'T DO A HEAVY METAL TEST THAT COST ABOUT 70 BUCKS IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO ONE OF THOSE. BUT THE AQUATIC WEEDS ARE JUST PERFECT FOR THIS.

AND I THINK A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES EXIST FOR HAVING KID FISHES.

AND I THINK THE OTHER DECISION IS, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE CATCH AND RELEASE.

BECAUSE IN TWO OR THREE DAYS, WE COULD HAVE FISHED THIS OUT.

SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS WE JUST HAD HOW MANY PEOPLE DID WE HAVE GO THROUGH THE ANGLER CERTIFICATION PROGRAM THIS YEAR?

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NO, WE DO NOT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE LIKE BASSMASTER'S AND CABELLA'S OUT OF THE BLUE, THEY'LL SHOW UP EVERY NOW AND THEN AND THEY GAVE ME 40 RODS AND REELS DOWN AT [INAUDIBLE]AND TO SIT HERE GETTING OUT TO THE KIDS, YOU KNOW.

SO THESE GUYS WANT TO COOPERATE ALL THE TIME.

AND IT'S THE LAST SLIDE.

WHICH IS ONE OF YOUR PICTURES ISN'T IT? YEAH, I JUST DOCTORED UP THE PICTURE.

THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK 45 FISH IS I GOT FOUR HOURS OF NOW, I'VE BEEN OUT HERE TWICE SINCE THAT [INAUDIBLE]BOAT.

I WALKED AROUND THE SHORELINE WITH JOHN O'CONNELL, THE OUR ADVISER FROM THE AGRILIFE CENTER AT TEXAS A&M, AGRILIFE.

AND WE MADE A MOVIE OR VIDEO FOR THE 4H CLUB BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO KNOW HOW TO MEASURE FISH AND HOW TO HANDLE THEM IF YOU'RE GOING TO RELEASE THEM TO KEEP YOUR HANDS WET AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THEY WANT TO DO, ANOTHER, COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER PROGRAM ON THE PONDS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE NATURAL ASPECTS OF THE LAKE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING IT.

[3. Discussion and possible action on the Parkland Dedication Ordinance. ]

CRUMPTON ON THE LINE I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE CAN HEAR US.

DR. CRUMPTON CAN YOU HEAR US OK? YES, MA'AM, I CAN, THANK YOU.

PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

SO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS THE FINAL DRAFT THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE AND ITS REVISIONS.

THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS.

WE HAD SOME COMMENTS ON OUR LAST PARKS BOARD MEETING REGARDING SOME OF THE LAND REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE THERE.

WE WANTED TO FIRM UP SOME LANGUAGE AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS REGARDING THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FEES, WHICH I'LL REALLY NEED TO GO INTO A LOT MORE DEPTH SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT DR.

CRUMPTON AND I HAD DISCUSSED REGARDING THOSE FEES.

WE ALSO HAD RECENTLY DISCUSSED ADDING BACK IN ORIGINALLY, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE TOOK OUT THE PARTIAL CREDIT FOR HOA PARKS.

AFTER SPEAKING WITH DR.

CRUMPTON, THAT WAS A CONCERN.

ONLY BECAUSE PRIVATE HOA PARKS, THEY'RE STILL PROVIDING AN AMENITY TO THEIR RESIDENTS.

DOES THAT MEAN THEY WILL BE USING THAT PARK IN ONLY THAT PARK 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME? PROBABLY NOT. THEY WILL LIKELY BE USING OTHER PARKS WITHIN OUR PARKS SYSTEM, OUR PUBLIC PARKS, HOWEVER, AND TO PREVENT.

LITIGATION IN THE FUTURE, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GO DOWN THAT PATH, IT IS WISE FOR US TO INCLUDE SOME SORT OF CREDIT.

AND SO WHAT WE HAVE PUT BACK IN HERE IS WHAT WE HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED EARLIER IN 2020, WHICH WAS A 50 PERCENT CREDIT, BUT THEY HAD TO MEET VARIOUS CRITERIA, INCLUDING A MINIMUM STANDARDS, WHICH YOU SEE IS APPENDIX B LISTED HERE IN THE DEDICATION ORDINANCE.

SO BEFORE WE GET TOO HEAVY INTO ANY OF THE QUESTIONS, I DO WANT TO REVIEW THE CALCULATION PAGE. AND SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS WAS HOW ARE WE FACING OUR FEES, OUR IMPROVEMENT FEES WHEN WE HAVE SOME UNDEVELOPED AREAS OR OPEN SPACE AREAS? AND SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS TAKE THE COST OF DEVELOPED PARKS.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE ORDINANCE WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WHERE WE ARE TO ASSESS THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT COST CAN FLUCTUATE ON OUR DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT ANNUALLY.

AND SO WHAT DR.

CRUMPTON HAS DONE IS TAKEN OUR RATIO OF OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, OUR EXISTING DEVELOPER ACRES, IN COMPARISON TO OUR UNDEVELOPED PARK ACRES AND COME UP WITH AN ALTERNAT E FEE FOR US TO CONSIDER ACCEPTING AS OUR PARK IMPROVEMENT FEE.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT UNDER APPENDIX B.

SO I KNOW THAT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THIS IN A WHILE. BUT IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE HAVE A PARK PLAN DEDICATION.

WHERE WE ARE ASKING DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND DEDICATE PARK LAND, AND OR EXCUSE ME, PARK IMPROVEMENTS. BUT IF THEY OPT NOT TO DO THAT, THEN WE ARE REQUIRING THEM TO PAY FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND AND THEN ALSO THESE IN LIEU OF IMPROVEMENTS OR IMPROVEMENT FEES, IF YOU WILL. AND SO THE FIRST PORTION UNDER APPENDIX A SPECIFICALLY COVERS THE CALCULATIONS FOR

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SO THAT IS JUST THE ACREAGE, IT'S JUST THE LAY MATERIAL THAT'S NOT COST ASSOCIATED WITH ACTUALLY DEVELOPING THAT INTO A USABLE PARK.

AND SO PARK DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT IS LISTED BELOW HERE.

AND THE COST PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT FOR PASSIVE AND UNDEVELOPED CONSERVATION PARKS ARE THE PORTION OF HOW WE ARE CALCULATING THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENT.

SO I DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY CONFUSION ON WHAT WE ARE ACCEPTING AS IT RELATES TO FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND, THE ACTUAL LAND ITSELF AND THEN THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THE OVERALL ORDINANCE, WE CAN START WITH THOSE QUESTIONS. IF YOU WANT TO START WITH THE APPENDIX AND CALCULATIONS, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS WELL.BEFORE, THE TOTAL FEE OF [INAUDIBLE] YOU SAID THAT'S NOT.

THAT NUMBER IS NOT MANDATORY LIKE WE DO RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 575 PER LOT. ANYWAY, AT THE LAST MEETING, WE NOTICED.

YOU CAN EITHER PAY THAT OR WHATEVER IF YOU HAVE SOME CREDITORS.

BUT WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THIS TOTAL I THINK THE LAST TIME YOU MENTIONED.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THE ENTIRE FEE.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.

YES, IT WILL BE IN THE WAY THAT WE WERE TRYING TO REDUCE.

SO THIS TOTAL NUMBER THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, THAT IS THE TWENTY THREE THIRTY NINE THAT IS ACTUALLY REDUCED FROM WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE DR.

CRUMPTON HAS TAKEN A RATIO OF OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE IN DEVELOPED PARKS VERSUS UNDEVELOPED, WHICH HAS BROUGHT THAT DOWN.

AND SO WHEN WE SPOKE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, YES, YOU COULD PHASE IN THE FULL I BELIEVE IT WAS THE CITY OF NEW BRAUNFELS, AM I CORRECT, DR.

COMPTON, THAT HAD PHASED IN THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT FEE.

BUT THEY DID INCORPORATE THE FULL FEE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

AND SO CITY COUNCIL COULD CHOOSE TO PURSUE IT IN THAT WAY.

BUT THE INTENT IS THAT YOU YOU DO ACCEPT THIS FULL FEE.

SO THE GOAL HERE, WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING IS WE'VE REDUCED THE FEE BY CONSIDERING OUR UNDEVELOPED PARKLAND.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE FLAT FEE THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING [INAUDIBLE] IN PER DWELLING UNIT.

AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS WHAT ASSISTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT.

ONE DEVELOPMENT AND GET ONE FEE. AND ONE, SO IF THE FEE IS CONSISTENT.

RATHER THAN LIVING IN A SO YOUR STATEMENT IS ON THE TOTAL CALCULATION ADDED IS WHAT THE FEES WOULD BE.

THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING [INAUDIBLE] BE FOR BOTH FEES AND LOW PARKLAND AND IMPROVEMENT FEES THE TOTAL WOULD BE TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED THIRTY NINE DOLLARS.

AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE? ABSOLUTELY.

ON THE HEARTLAND DEDICATION, THERE'S THE WAY I READ SOME OF THIS.

YOU CAN HAVE A PRIVATE PARK, AS YOU JUST ALLUDED TO.

YOU CAN GET SOME CREDIT FOR A PRIVATE PARK, BUT TO HAVE A PRIVATE PARK, IT HAS TO BE EVERYTHING FROM FALL PROTECTION TO THE EQUIPMENT TO THE REPLACEMENT INSPECTIONS, VARIOUS THINGS THAT GO WITH GO IN THERE.

MY CONCERN IS, THE DEVELOPER MAY PUT IN SOME THINGS AND SEEK THAT CREDIT.

THE DEVELOPER POCKETS OF CREDIT WHETHER IT'S ME OR ANY OTHER DEVELOPER.

BUT THEN THE BURDEN FALLS ON THE HOA THE RESIDENTS OF THAT SAID DIVISION S TO MAINTAIN THAT TO CITY STANDARDS AND I DON'T SEE THAT IN MOST SMALL SUBDIVISIONS,[INAUDIBLE] YOU'LL GET IT INTO A BIG MUD, LIKE A THREE THOUSAND ACRES PROJECT WHERE THEY HAVE TO BIG MUD TAXES. BUT MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IF YOU HAVE A CLAUSE IN HERE THAT IF THEY DON'T MAINTAIN IT YOU WILL COME IN AND BRING IT UP TO CITY STANDARDS AND YOU WILL BUILD.

THE PARTIES THE HOA, WHICH SHOULD BE FOR THAT COST.

WHAT IF THE HOA DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDS? WHAT IF THAT HOA DECIDES THEY DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF PARK, WGOING TO THE GREEN SPACE? WHAT OPTIONS DO YOU HAVE? AND SO I THINK AT THAT TIME, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT TO.

THE CITY COUNCIL, AS DOES THE CITY, WANT TO TAKE IT OVER, SO PART OF THE REASON WE REQUEST THAT IT BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS AND IT MEETS OUR CITY STANDARDS AND THE MINIMUM STANDARDS LIKE WE'RE SETTING THE THRESHOLD IN THE FIVE ACRE PARK IS SO THAT WHEN WE GET THOSE REQUESTS, WE'RE PREPARED TO TAKE OVER A PARK LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE IT SHOULD ALREADY BE AT THE POINT WHERE IT MEETS THE CURRENT STANDARDS AND WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE REQUIRED FROM THE BEGINNING.

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SOME SUBSTANDARD EQUIPMENT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO STEP IN OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR IT, BUT I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERN THAT THERE MAY BE.

WILL THEY BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT TYPE OF FACILITY.

I MEAN, WE SPEND A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY TAKING CARE OF THE PARKS AND HOAS WAYS, WILL HAVE THERE BEING [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE MOMENT FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED AND THEY MAY NOT BE AWARE. MY CONCERN IS THE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY'RE HANDED SOMETHING BY THE DEVELOPER, PROBABLY NOT AWARE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST THEM. AND FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, I DON'T THINK WE REALLY WANT A BUNCH OF SMALL PARKS.

I JUST WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THOSE RESIDENTS IF THAT PRIVATE PARK IF THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN IT AS IT SHOULD.

I MEAN, I LOOK AT, SAY, RANCHO OR SOMETHING, RANCHO PROBABLY WOULD NOT MEET CITY STANDARDS AND THEN THERE REALLY IS NO OTHER.

PARKLAND, SO TO SPEAK, OTHER THAN OUR NATURAL AREA HERITAGE OAKS THAT WE'RE REALLY FOLLOWING THE SCENARIO, SO I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THERE A REASON I KNOW YOU SAID IN THE BEGINNING THAT WE NEED TO PREVENT LAWSUITS, BUT IT SEEMS IN THE CITY'S BEST INTERESTS THAT WE DON'T EVEN GIVE CREDITS.

WE JUST HAVE PARKLANDS.

AND I JUST WORRY WHAT'S IS GOING TO BE LIKE 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WITH THESE PARKS FAILING, YOU STEP IN AND YOU GOT TO BILL SOMEBODY.

[INAUDIBLE] RIGHT, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROPOSE TO CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU COULD CONSIDER.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL HAS TO BE PREPARED THAT THEY MAY BE PRESENTED WITH A LAWSUIT BECAUSE THE HOA HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICE.

AND IF THEY DO, THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN SOME SORT OF CREDIT AND DR.

CRUMPTON, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON YOUR HISTORY WITH SCENARIOS LIKE THAT. WELL, PERHAPS MOST RECENTLY, I WAS INVOLVED IN [INAUDIBLE] CASE IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, AND THAT WILL ACTUALLY LAST WEEK.

AND ONE OF THE DEVELOPER'S COMPLAINTS WAS THAT HE WAS GIVEN IF HE WAS BUILDING 600 APARTMENTS IN THE CITY, WORKED OUT ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] AND HE WAS COMPLAINING THAT HE WAS GIVEN NO CREDIT.

HE WAS PUTTING INCLUDING FACILITIES IN HIS AUTO COMPLEX AND HE WAS GIVEN NO CREDIT FOR.

AND HE QUITE RIGHTLY SAID THAT THOSE FACILITIES WILL ABSORB SOME OF THE SOME OF THE DEMAND. AND SO THEREFORE, YOU SHOULDN'T BE CHARGING THE FULL AMOUNT.

I THINK THAT ARGUMENT IS WELL-ESTABLISHED NOW.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO GIVE THAT KIND OF CREDIT TO DEVELOPERS, HOWEVER, FOR ONE OF THE POINTS OF CONTENTION, IN THE MCKINNEY CASE AND THE CHALLENGE.

MOST OF THESE CASES IS LIKE THEY'RE MEDIATED.

THEY NEVER GET CAUGHT BECAUSE IT'S SO EXPENSIVE TO GO TO COURTS.

AND SO THIS ONE WAS MEDIATED TOO.

DR.

CRUMPTON, I'M SO SORRY. CAN YOU TRY SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER INTO YOUR MIC? WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT IT SOUNDS A LITTLE JUMBLED. A LITTLE MORE LOUDER? OK, I'LL TRY TO SPEAK A LITTLE MORE SLOWLY, DOES NOT THAT HELP? IT DOES, IT'S PERFECT. ALL RIGHT.

AND SO WE REALLY HAVE TO GIVE THE DEVELOPER A CREDIT.

OTHERWISE HE WILL CHALLENGE IT IN COURT AND QUITE RIGHTLY, BECAUSE HIS DEVELOPMENT IS ABSORBING SOME OF THE DEMAND.

HOWEVER, WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT THE FACILITIES THAT HE OFFERS ARE SUBSTITUTE FACILITIES FOR WHAT YOU WOULD GET, IN PARKS.

WHEN ONE OF THE POINTS OF DISPUTE WHICH THEY DEVELOPER IN THE MCKINNEY CASE, WE WERE MEDIATING [INAUDIBLE] WAS HE WAS TRYING TO CLAIM THAT, WELL, HE HAD SOME INDOOR AREAS WITH FITNESS EQUIPMENT AND THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED AND CREDITED.

AND THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE INDOOR FACILITIES THAT ARE OFFERED IN OUR PARKS. THESE, THIS ORDINANCE ONLY COVERS OUTDOOR KINDS OF FACILITIES.

AND SO HE CEDED THAT POINT ULTIMATELY.

SO IN THIS ORDINANCE, WE HAVE SPELLED OUT WHAT THE KIND OF ACTIVITIES OR THE KIND OF FACILITIES THAT ARE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE CREDIT.

SO THIS PRIVATE PARK.

IT'S NOT OPEN, IT'S NOT FOR THE PUBLIC USE?

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AND THE ORDINANCE CAN HAVE A CLAUSE IN WHICH SAYS, AS MEGAN SAID, THAT IF THEY DO NOT MEET THE CITY'S STANDARD, THEN IT WOULD BE A PERPETUAL EASEMENTS, THAT THERE COULD BE NO QUESTION ABOUT THIS CHANGING USE OVER THE TIME.

BUT IF IT WAS DID NOT MEET THAT STANDARD, THEN THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO IN AND DO THE MAINTENANCE AND CHARGE THE HOA FOR IT.

ALTERNATIVELY, IT COULD BE A PUBLIC PARK, IN WHICH CASE THE CITY WOULD TAKE UP THE MAINTENANCE AND THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC USE OF IT AND NOT JUST CONFINED TO THE SUBDIVISION, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE SUBDIVISION.

THOSE PEOPLE ARE LIKELY TO MAKE PERHAPS MOST USEFUL.

AND AT THAT TIME, ASK A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS WE HAVE ON PAGE 19 ON PARAGRAPH C TALKS ABOUT A PHASED DEVELOPMENT.

IS THIS RELATED TO OUR COMMENT ABOUT SOME OF THE.

COLLECTING EITHER ALL THE PARK FEE UP FRONT.

I THINK YOU HAVE IT HERE, SOME SURETY OF SOME SORT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN.

SO SO I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THESE PROJECTS ARE PHASED IN WHICH IS COMMON, I GUESS, OR SMALLER COMMUNITY.

IS THAT THE INTENTION TO GO AHEAD AND COLLECT THE FUNDS UP FRONT? WELL, IT DEPENDS, YES, OR IF THEY DECIDE TO GO FEES [INAUDIBLE] BUT IF NOT, THEN THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING THOSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS UP FRONT.

AND THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR? CORRECT. OK.

WE ANSWERED THAT ONE.

ON PAGE TWENTY TWO, THERE'S THE VERY TOP PARAGRAPH OF WATER FEATURES I'M JUST TRYING TO GET WHAT THE WATER FEATURES EXCEEDING TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET WILL NOT NORMALLY BE CONSIDERED AS ART FACILITIES FOR CREDIT.

WHERE WOULD, WHERE'S THAT NUMBER COMING FROM? WE WOULD HAVE A WATER FEATURE THAT SMALL? I GUESS. DOES THAT NUMBER DERIVE FROM ANYTHING PARTICULAR OR IS IT JUST? TO MY RECOLLECTION, WE ARE DOING THE DEDICATION, WE CAME UP WITH THAT AS THE PARKS BOARD.

BECAUSE WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE WANTING TO DEDICATE DETENTION.

AND WE DISCUSSED POND AREAS, AND WE WOULD ACTUALLY ACCEPT THAT AS AN.

AND SO I BELIEVE WE.

DR. CRUMPTON DO YOU RECALL, IS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON WATER FEATURES EXCEEDING 25 OR EXCUSE ME, 2500 SQUARE FEET? WELL, THAT NORMALLY WOULD BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF A PARK FACILITY, THAT QUALIFY FOR CREDIT, HOWEVER, 10 PERCENT OF LAKES AND.

AND NATURE RESERVES OR LAND, WAS THAT TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET NUMBER, SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD PULLED FROM A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE OR IS THAT SOMETHING PARKS BOARD HAVE PROVIDED YOU.

I, HONESTLY, MEGAN, I CAN'T RECALL.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I PUT INTO IT THAT I WOULD REGULARLY PUT IN.

SO I SUSPECT IT CAME FROM YOU.

BUT WHETHER THE NUMBER CAME FROM YOU OR THE IDEA FOR IT FOR A NUMBER OF FROM YOU, I SIMPLY CAN'T RECALL. I'M JUST CURIOUS.

[INAUDIBLE] AND YOU SAID THE OTHER PARK TEN PERCENT OF LAKES AND NATURE RESERVES CAN GET CREDIT. WHAT DO YOU CALL THE LAKE SOME OF THESE, WET DETENTION BONDS THAT THEY HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE MAKE UP WATER AND HAVE WELLS.

THEY WILL GO DRY EVERY SUMMER BECAUSE IT'S STILL CONSIDERED A LAKE THEN, IS THAT WHAT YOU ? SO THEY DON'T HAVE A SOURCE OF MAKE UP WATER? ANY OF THESE DETENTION PONDS THAT I'VE SEEN IN A NEW SUBDIVISION I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT BECAUSE I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THE DESIGN COMPONENT OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AND SO I COULD NOT SAY, BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY WOULDN'T NORMALLY BE FULL THEN, YES, THE ANSWER THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THEY WOULD NOT QUALIFY.

THEY ONLY COME ALL THE ONES I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN IN.

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WHAT THEY THINK IS A LAKE, BUT IN JULY IT'S JUST A MUD HOLE.

NO, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT AND ONE PORTION THAT I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF IS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THIS PERSON IN BEFORE YOU.

THE CITY ATTORNEY IS REVIEWING DOCUMENTS FOR FORCIBILITY FOR THINGS.

JUST LIKE THAT.

THERE'S MANY PLACES IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE WHERE WE DON'T PROVIDE VERBIAGE AND DEFINITIONS THAT WE'VE KIND OF GOT TO TAPE TO HOLD THIS TOGETHER AND WHEN WE HAVE EXACTLY QUESTIONS LIKE THAT. BUT WHAT I RECALL WE WERE INITIALLY DEVELOPING.

THIS ORDINANCE I THINK WE'VE BEEN GOING BEYOND A YEAR AT THIS POINT, LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS VERBIAGE IS WE WERE CONCERNED WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN HERE, [INAUDIBLE] AND THE WHILE THOSE STAY, THOSE ARE CONSIDERED [INAUDIBLE] FOR A MAJORITY OF THOSE RESIDENTS WE WOULD WANT SOMETHING LIKE THAT [INAUDIBLE] CONSIDERING AN AMENITY TO BE CONSIDERED AS A PARTIAL CREDIT.

THIS CAME UP LAST WEEK TO THIS SAME PAGE, 22 ON THAT PARAGRAPH D, THE AMOUNT OF CREDIT BASED ON ACTUAL OUT OF POCKET DOLLAR COSTS OF THE DEVELOPER INCURS.

ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS WAS TALKING ABOUT THE COST THAT HE INCURRED IN CREATING THE WET POND AND HE WANTED CREDIT.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN, CALCULATED IN THIS [INAUDIBLE].

IT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION OR AMENITIES.

THERE WERE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD NOT, THAT MAY BE HEARD, BUT WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER AS WE ENFORCE MOVING FORWARD.

Y'ALL DID A GOOD JOB, BY THE WAY, THIS IS.

YOU CAN TELL YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME.

THAT'S REALLY ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

YEAH, I GUESS MY COMMENTS ARE ALONG THE SAME LINES THAT CHRIS HAD, BUT I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT THAT THE REASON WE'RE OFFERING PARTIAL CREDIT TO THE DEVELOPERS FOR PRIVATE LAND IS TO DEFER LAWSUITS.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT, BECAUSE AS A HOA PRESIDENT, I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE TIED TO SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER COMMITTED TO THAT I HAD TO MAINTAIN STANDARDS FOR AND POTENTIALLY INCUR A LOT OF COSTS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE CITY IS TELLING ME THAT I HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENTS CHANGE.

SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, HE MIGHT BUILD IT TO STANDARD INITIALLY, BUT 20 OR 30 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE TELLING ME OTHER COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCUR TO MAINTAIN THAT PARK AND RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

AND I JUST DON'T I THINK THAT'S A BAD SITUATION TO BE IN.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE A LOT OF ISSUES FOR THE HOAS, THAT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS LONG GONE AFTER THAT.

I MEAN, LUCKILY, CHRIS IS STILL AROUND, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE FOR A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS. SO I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE REASONING WHILE WE HAVE TO GIVE PARTIAL CREDIT FOR PARKS AT ALL, PERIOD.

I MEAN, I THINK IF IT'S NOT PUBLIC, IT SHOULDN'T BE, THEY SHOULDN'T BE GIVEN ANY CREDIT, I THINK, BECAUSE I THINK THAT PUTS THE HOAS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT IN A BAD POSITION WHERE THE CITY'S TELLING THEM YOU'VE GOT TO INCUR ALL THESE COSTS.

RIGHT. AND OR GIVE US YOUR LAND SO WE CAN MAINTAIN IT, YOU KNOW, WHICH THEY MAY NOT WANT TO DO THAT EITHER. RIGHT.

AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TOO IS ITEM J ON PAGE 22 IS THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS OF THAT HOA.

AND SO THAT DEVELOPER, WHEN THEY PROVIDE THOSE COVENANTS, IT WILL BE GIVEN TO EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT THAT DECIDES TO BUY A LOT THERE.

SO IF THEY ARE UP FRONT WITH WHAT THAT MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE THAT YOU WERE BOUND BY THAT PARKLAND DEDICATION OR IMPROVEMENTS IN MAINTAINING IT AND YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR THAT WHEN YOU BECOME A RESIDENT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, LIKE DR.

CRUMPTON MENTIONED, BECAUSE THERE IS.

THERE HAVE BEEN CASES OF THE CITIES IN A SIMILAR SITUATION AS THE HOA WE'RE DEALING WITH DEVELOPERS THAT WE IT'S BEEN THOUGHT WHERE DEVELOPERS HAVE SAID, I'M PROVIDING IN AMENITY, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT I'M NOT.

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AND SO THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO PUT OURSELVES IN THAT SITUATION WHERE WE'RE OPENING OURSELVES UP TO LITIGATION.

SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE HOA'S POSITION, IT GOES BACK TO YOU AS A RESIDENT WHEN YOU'RE READING THOSE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, WHAT YOU'RE COMMITTING TO BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO BUILD A HOME THERE. WHEN DID THEY GET THAT COVENANT? I MEAN, IF THEY'RE BUYING A HOUSE, WHEN DO THEY GET EXPOSED TO THAT COVENANT? SO THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THAT OR BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

THAT MAY BE TRUE, AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE, BONNIE, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE YOU MIGHT HAVE.

WELL, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE AGE OF THE HOUSE, IF IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION OR NOT.

BUT TYPICALLY SOMEWHERE IN THAT, IF YOU CLOSE IT, LIKE MOST PEOPLE WILL DO IT, GOING THROUGH A TITLE COMPANY AND SO FORTH, ESPECIALLY IF THE LENDER'S INVOLVED THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE MADE AWARE OF THE OF THE RESTRICTIONS IN THE COVENANTS AND SO FORTH.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY WON'T READ THEM THOUGH.

I WAS AT A CLOSING THIS MORNING AND THERE IS DISCLOSURE GRIEVANCE AND CLAIR IS RIGHT, THERE'S BIG SNAGS ON THE BUYERS SIDE, LAST NIGHT THAT [INAUDIBLE] THEY GET KIND OF, THEIR SENSES DULL AND THEY DON'T READ EVERYTHING JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY THIS DISCLOSURE IS THIS THIS ONE THAT AND THEY'LL SIGN THEM ALL AND THEY DON'T READ THE THEM.

YOU'LL GET SOMEBODY THAT WILL READ THEM BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEY DON'T.

[INAUDIBLE] JUST LIKE CARS WE HAVE GETTING A CONTRACT AND DISCLOSURES AND IT STATES YOU'RE IN A SUBDIVISION WITH AND MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

BUT THAT OTHER DISCLOSURE, YOU'RE RIGHT, SOME [INAUDIBLE].

THAT WAS JUST MY CONCERN.

I UNDERSTAND THE LAWSUIT ISSUE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT REASON, BUT I DO FROM THE CITIZENS, OUR RESIDENTS SIDE.

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN, I THINK RANCHO HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT AND THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT MAINTAINING IT JUST DOES SEEM LIKE DOWN THE ROAD, THE DEVELOPER WE HAVE AND IT'LL BE ON THE BACK OF THE RESIDENTS TO KEEP THAT UP PARK CITY STANDARDS, AND IF THEY HAVE TO GO IN AND YOU SAY YOU HAVE TO OUR CITY FACILITIES OR ARE YOU SAYING ONCE THIS IS ENACTED, HOW OFTEN DO WE DO AN INSPECTION? RIGHT? YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITION.

WELL, WHAT STEWART AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, JUST EVEN WITH RESPECT TO OUR OWN CITY PLAYGROUNDS GOING THROUGH AND DOING LIKE A CERTIFIED PLAYGROUND SAFETY INSPECTION.

WE HAD TENTATIVELY TALKED ABOUT DOING IT MONTHLY. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD JUST ADD TO THE ROUTINE.

AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT KIND OF AMENITIES YOU HAVE WHEN THEY'RE IN SERVICE.

I MEAN, THERE ARE CITIES LIKE THE CITY OF LAHORE, AND THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS GO BACK TO.

THEY HAD A HOA RUN POOL AND EVERY YEAR IT WAS AN ANNUAL INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD EVEN OPEN THE POOL SAFELY. AND SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF AMENITIES THAT ARE. LIKE THE ONES YOU'RE SEEING NOW THEY ARE PUTTING A TRAIL AROUNDWHENEVER SOCCER GOES OR SOMETHING THERE'S NOT A LOT TO INSPECT THERE.

THAT THE CREDIT THEY WOULD GET THERE WOULD JUST BE BASED ON THE INVOICES THEY CAN SHOW WHAT THEY PAY. WHO DETERMINES THE SO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT COUNCIL CHOOSES AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, IT WOULD BE HAVE WE MET THE STANDARDS AND STRICTLY THOSE RECREATIONAL, OUR RECREATIONAL AMENITIES.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IF YOU LOOK AT APPENDIX B, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE MENTIONED THERE. WE WANT TO SEE RECEIPTS FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO IT COULD BE SOMETHING THEY WANT THAT YOU MAY NOT REALLY FEEL THAT WILL BRING AS MUCH RECREATIONAL VALUE, IF WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR IT.IT'S NOT IN THE APPENDIX, BUT THEY SAY IT'S SOMETHING THEY SPENT BUT YOU DON SEE THE VALUE, CAN YOU STILL GIVE THEM CREDIT? WELL, WE HAVE VERBIAGE IN HERE THAT SAYS THINGS LIKE ACTUALLY.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, IT DOES TALK ABOUT OUTDOOR AMENITIES.

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OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL AMENITIES WHICH WE WOULD ASSESS AS A DEPARTMENT, AND IF YOU NOTICE IN HERE AS PART OF OUR PROCESS, WE'RE BRINGING TO PARKS BOARD, PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL. AND SO IT GETS VETTED THROUGH AND Y'ALL BECOME PART OF THAT PROCESS, SO WE WILL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION, WE'LL SEEK APPROVAL OF OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU ALL BEFORE IT GOES OFF TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL. I KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING IN HERE ABOUT HABITAT AND NATURAL AREAS, HOW DO YOU VALUE THAT? WHAT IF THEY WHAT IF SOMEBODY SET ASIDE 10 ACRES WITH LARGE OAK TREES AND HAS A HABITAT THAT'S SUPPORTING LOCAL SPECIES, HOW DO YOU PUT A VALUE ON THAT AS PART OF THEIR MIC]? WELL, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AND WE SPECIFICALLY ARE LOOKING AT THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE MINIMUM STANDARDS, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY CAN'T GO BEYOND AN EXCESS OF THAT, BUT WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT, THEY'RE REQUIRED MINIMALLY TO PROVIDE FIVE ACRES.

AND THERE ARE THINGS IN HERE IN THE MINIMUM STANDARDS IN THE APPENDIX THAT THEY WOULD ADDITIONALLY BE REQUIRED TO HAVE.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT YOU CAN'T PROVIDE THE WETLANDS OR ACTUALLY IT DOESN'T, OUR ORDINANCE SPECIFY THOSE AREAS ARE PROTECTED AREAS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL SURVEY THAT WE'RE REQUIRING IN THIS ORDINANCE AS WELL, SO BUT AS FAR AS MONETARY VALUE, WE'RE NOT BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR SEATS OF OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL AMENITIES.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT.

I THINK SOME MUNICIPALITIES ARE PUTTING VALUE ON WOODLANDS PRESERVATION OF LANDS PRESERVATION OF HABITAT, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOMEBODY CAME IN HERE AND THEY. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE 50 PERCENT CREDIT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE.

IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDITIONS BECAUSE THERE'S, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, WE REQUIRE THAT ACTUAL LAND DEDICATION OUTSIDE OF THE LAND DEDICATION, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY RIGHT NOW [INAUDIBLE] TO REQUEST IMPROVEMENTS.

WE JUST HAVE TO ENFORCED THAT.

AND SO WE ARE ENFORCING THAT HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN GIVE US LAND ALL DAY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT OR DEVELOP IT.

AND SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO DEDICATE THE LAND, THEN ALSO PROVIDE.

THE IMPROVEMENTS WITH IT.

UP FRONT? RIGHT? AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN WE'RE REQUESTING FEES IN LIEU OF THOSE THINGS.

AND THE WAY THAT IT'S BUILT, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE DEVELOPERS WILL OPT FOR THAT UNLESS YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS AND WANT TO PROVIDE, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS.

THE CALCULATION FOR THEIR LAND REQUIREMENTS AND OUR CURRENT LDC ARE WELL BELOW BY FIVE ACRES, AND SO ALREADY THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE ONLY THE CURRENT STANDARD.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO DEDICATE FIVE ACRES.

BUT SOME MAY.

WELL, TO ME, YOU'RE LEAVING TOO MUCH UP TO THE BOARDS AND THE COUNCIL TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.

I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE MORE FAIR IF IT WAS JUST CONSISTENT, THE SAME FEE FOR EVERYTHING, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'LL GIVE YOU 50 PERCENT CREDIT FOR THAT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU ANY CREDIT FOR THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS A LOT OF SUBJECTIVE THERE AND A LOT OF ROOM FOR, WELL, TREATING DEVELOPERS DIFFERENTLY.

WELL, IT'S ALL DONE BY IT'S BASED OF THE DWELLING UNITS OF EVERY DEVELOPMENT, UNLESS THEY HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS. BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THAT CALCULATION.

SO IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED PLATTED HOME VERSUS A TWO HUNDRED, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING A DIFFERENT FEE BECAUSE IT IS A COST PER DWELLING UNIT.

SO AND IT IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS A BASE FEE TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED THIRTY NINE DOLLARS PER DWELLING UNIT.

SO IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED HOMES, THAT'S TWENTY THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED NINETY DOLLARS. VERSUS WHAT IT WOULD BE FOR 10000 HOMES.

I THINK FOR THE MOST PART.

FIVE ACRES IS JUST GOING TO COST MORE THAN LIKE IN HER CASE, TWENTY THREE THOUSAND PROBABLY. WELL IT DEPENDS ON THE DENSITY.

BUT I THINK THE.

WELL, YEAH. I THINK MOST OF THE TIME IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE DEVELOPER JUST TO PAY THE FEE. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

AND THEN THE PARKS SAY, YOU DO FOR YOUR RESIDENCE IT'S NOT REALLY.

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OF MY IT WOULDN'T BE, IT BE COST PROHIBITIVE FOR THEM TO GIVE UP LAND FOR PARKS SO IT'S BETTER FOR THEM TO. JUST PAY THE MONEY IF YOU HAD A THOUSAND ACRES AND MAY HAVE SOME LAND IN THERE, YOU COULD DO A REAL PARK WITH IT.

I JUST THINK YOU'RE GETTING IN IF YOU GIVE THEM CREDIT, HALF CREDIT OR WHATEVER FOR THIS PARK THAT MET STANDARDS INITIALLY, THEN YOU'RE JUST PUTTING A LOT OF ONUS ON THE HOAS TO MAINTAIN IT IN THE FUTURE.

AND I JUST THINK YOU'RE GETTING INTO A WORST NIGHTMARE FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE.

I JUST REALLY THINK THAT'S A BAD IDEA.

BAD IDEA. I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN REALISTICALLY UNLESS IT'S A REALLY HUGE SUBDIVISION AND HUGE PARK WHERE THERE WOULD BE THE MONIES TO DO THAT.

SO I THINK TO CHRIS'S POINT, THE CHANCES OF THAT HAPPENING, THE OPTION IS HERE, BUT IT'S NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN. IT'S GOING TO BE MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO GO FOR THE FEES AND KEEP ON MOVING. I JUST THINK IT'S BETTER FOR EVERYBODY IF THAT'S WHAT WE WHAT HAPPENS, BECAUSE TAKE THE RANCHO EXAMPLE, IF ALL THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN IN PLACE, THEN EVERY MONTH YOU'RE GOING TO GO LOOK AT THE SWIMMING POOL AND TELL THEM, THE RESIDENTS, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO THE POOL TO MAKE TO MEET REQUIREMENTS.

AND LET'S SAY IT WASN'T ADA COMPLIANT.

AND THAT WASN'T EVEN ON ANYBODY'S RADAR 20 YEARS AGO.

AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT'S GOING TO COST, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO MAKE IT ADA COMPLIANT.

AND NOW THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT? AND IT'S STILL FOR JUST A RESIDENT OR THEY HAVE TO GIVE IT UP TO THE CITY TO MAINTAIN.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE OPENING UP A BIG CAN OF WORMS THERE FOR FUTURE LITIGATION, POTENTIALLY.

I MEAN, ANY TIME THEY DO AN ADDITION TO THAT PARK DOES IT REQUIRE SURE THAT ADDITION {OFF MIC]. THEY WANT TO ADD SOME MORE STUFF, DO THEY NEED TO COME TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ACCEPTABLE THEY WOULD HAVE TO, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY WERE.

[INAUDIBLE]WELL, THAT'S MEAN.

RIGHT NOW, SOMEBODY IS PUTTING.I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANY ADDITIONS, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WHATEVER IS BEING PUT IN THAT PARK, IF WE ARE INSPECTING AND ASSESSING IT.

THAT IS WHAT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.

THAT UNDER COVENANTS YOU HAVE SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN AS AN HOA, THEN IT'S LUMPED IN TO THAT, SO RATHER THAN ADDING ADDITIONS, IT WOULD BEHOOVE AN HOA TO THE BUDGET FOR MAINTENANCE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED AT PARKS BOARD AND PROVIDE ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

HOWEVER, I WOULD BE PROVIDING CITY COUNCIL WITH.

ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON POTENTIAL LITIGATION FOR THE CITY.

LIKE I LIKE MOST OF THE OTHER ADDRESS ONE.[INAUDIBLE] THE ORDINANCE THAT'S JUST THAT'S GOING TO CONCERN JUST.

ARE.

OR LET'S SAY A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN THINKING OR A LINE OF CREDIT, BUT LET'S SAY THEY WENT AHEAD AND DESIGNATED,[INAUDIBLE] YOU HAVE TEN ACRES OF IT.

GO AHEAD AND CAN THEY PUT IN THE AMENITIES THAT ARE.

REQUIRED THE. TO GET THEIR 50 PERCENT CREDIT AND THEY DO THAT UP FRONT, BUT THEY DON'T DO SECTION TWO AND THREE OR WHATEVER SECTIONS ARE IN THAT.

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THOSE FIRST 50 HOMES TO FINANCE? NO. SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING A PHASED PROJECT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROJECT AND IT'S AS COMPREHENSIVELY AND SO WHEN YOU ARE DEDICATING PARKLAND, YOU ARE DOING THAT IN FULL FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S REQUIRED TO BE PRESENT[INAUDIBLE] NO, THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP IT. OH THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP THE ENTIRE PARK? YES. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT SO THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THE ENTIRE PARK AT FIRST PHASE. BUT WHAT IF THEY DON'T DO ANY MORE PHASES? THE DUES THAT ARE COLLECTED BY THE FIRST PHASE THEY HAVE TO BE THERE IT WOULD PUT A BIG BURDEN ON THIS.ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY WOULD HAVE TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS.ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S WHEN.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT, THE CITY IS, IT'S NOT THE CITY. THE DEVELOPER, HE GETS A CREDIT. AND THEN THOSE RESIDENTS I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT PROTECTION.THIS. BUT THAT THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE IMPACT ON THE MAJORITY, BUT OTHER THAN THAT. I THINK JUST GO ON WHAT BONNIE IS SAYING, THE WAY THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED THE ORDINANCE. I REALLY AGREE THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO GO THIS ROUTE. WHILE THEY MAY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT MANY WILL. BUT I DON'T KNOW.

WELL I LISTENED TO THE COUNT, THE MARATHON, FOUR HOUR FIVE HOUR COUNCIL MEETING THE OTHER DAY, AND IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THEIR PARKS THAT THEY'RE BUILDING ARE GOING TO COUNT.

WELL, THEY'RE UNDER THE EXISTING ORDINANCE.

THIS IS A NEW ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT THOSE SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.

OK, OK.

WELL, LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION THIS SAYS.

OH, CAN I ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION THERE? IN THAT MEETING, THERE WAS SEVERAL WELL, AT LEAST TWO DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT THIS WAS A PUBLIC PARK THAT WAS ON THEIR PROPERTY FOR THE RESIDENTS INTENDED FOR THEIR RESIDENTS, BUT THAT IT WAS OPEN TO THE.

WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT A PRIVATE PARK IT WOULD NOT BE A PUBLIC PARK UNLESS THE CITY OWNED AND MAINTAINED THE LAND. SO YOU WOULDN'T COUNT THAT? NO. OK, GOOD.

RIGHT.

IT'S A PRIVATE PARK UNLESS THEY ARE DEDICATING [INAUDIBLE], WRITING OVER THE DEED TO THE CITY. AND THE CITY'S MAINTAINING IT? THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION, AT LEAST.

WELL, WERE THE DEVELOPER WAS SAYING IT WAS OPEN TO THE WHOLE CITY AND YOU KNOW THAT.

AND THEY SAID SINCE PEOPLE WALK BY AND WOULD BE USING IT WE SHOULD GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE CREDIT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT. HE HAS TO MAINTAIN IT.

AND WE'LL BE DEALING WITH EACH OF THE DEVELOPERS ON A CASE BY CASE SCENARIO UNDER THE CURRENT LDC, BUT THIS ONE WILL HELP US MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE SIMILAR ISSUES.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AS WE LOOK AT THIS FOR.

IT MORE LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE CITY ATTORNEY IS REVIEWING THE DOCUMENT FORM FORCIBILITY . YOU MAY BE THE MEAT OF THE ORDINANCE IS WHAT I AM RECOMMENDING.

WE STICK WITH AND APPROVE.

AND AS THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL BE, LIKE WE JUST SAID, DEVELOPING SOME ADDITIONAL DEFINITIONS, MAKE SURE THAT THE VERBIAGE IT ALIGNS WITH WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE ORDINANCE. IF THERE ARE SOME CHANGES TO THE PROCESS AS IT RELATES TO WHEN ARE THE ACTUAL DESIGN PLANS NEEDED? AND THIS PROCESS IS THAT IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.

SO IF SHE HAS SOME SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THAT, IT WILL BE MINOR CHANGES. BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR AS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT PART [INAUDIBLE] OF THE DRAFT OF THE INFORMATION ORDINANCE, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME MAJOR OBJECTIONS OR

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PARKS MUST BE ADJACENT TO A STREET FOR EASE OF PEDESTRIAN BIKE OR PARKING ACCOMMODATIONS, BUT ARE YOU COUNTING PARKING ACCOMMODATIONS AS THE STREET? OH, OK.

OK, OK, THAT WASN'T REAL CLEAR.

I WAS KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT THAT, THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING THE STREET AS THE PARKING.

AND SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A.

[INAUDIBLE] BUT IN THE LDC, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE LISTED IN THE LDC THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE. OK, SO THAT WAS LITTLE.

OK, GOT IT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CURRENT DOCUMENT, AS WE DISCUSSED ON FOR THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, SUBJECT TO ANY TWEAKS BY THE ATTORNEY.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. INAUDIBLE.

I'M SORRY, YOU WANT ME TO REDO THAT? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT. [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, I DID JUMP AHEAD.

THANK YOU, DR. CRUMPTON. THANK YOU, SIR.

SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND WE NEED TO DO.

[4. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action on amending the Parks and Recreation Standards of Care ordinance. ]

OK, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM FOUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON PARKS AND RECREATION STANDARDS OF CARE ORDINANCE.

SO WHAT YOU ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WE NOTICED AS WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR PARKS ORDINANCE. WE ARE MISSING A STANDARDS OF CARE SECTION OF WHICH IS REQUIRED UNDER THE TEXAS HUMAN RESOURCES CODE. FOR OUR SUMMER CAMP.

AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS JUST OUR PROPOSED STANDARDS OF CARE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE OFFERING SUMMER CAMP AND SEASONAL CAMPS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FOR CHILDREN.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC TO SPEAK? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC? I'M SORRY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MATTER IN THE PUBLIC HEARING? HEARING NONE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE I DO NOT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR YES. AND THEN ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE PARKS AND REC STANDARDS OF CARE ORDINANCE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. NEXT ON THIS [INAUDIBLE] ITEM FIVE REC CENTER RENOVATIONS.

[5. Discussion and possible action on Recreation Center renovations and expansion. ]

CHRIS HAD REACHED OUT TO ME, I THINK IT WAS EITHER LAST MONTH I CANNOT RECALL, OR BEFORE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSION OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. WHILE, THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS ON OUR MASTER STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS A LONG TERM ITEM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING GRADUALLY TO IMPROVE THE SITE.

AS YOU ALL MAY RECALL, IN YEARS PAST.

WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING A WALKING TRAIL AROUND THE FACILITY MAKING IT MORE PROGRAMED.

ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NOTICE IN THE MASTER STRATEGIC PLAN IS THAT WE ARE IN A PERFECT LOCATION TO BECOME A WALKABLE PARK AREA, WE HAVE NO PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY. JUST ADDING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING AN AREA IN WHICH WE'RE LACKING ALL WE HAVE IN [INAUDIBLE] FACILITIES, WE DON'T HAVE [INAUDIBLE].

AND THERE'S A GRAPH IN OUR MASTER PLAN THAT SHOWS THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE REALLY SHOULD BE ADDRESSING AND WE HAVE THE VENUE TO DO THAT, SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED

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AND THEN THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT ARE.

TO THE INTERIOR OF THE FACILITY, LIKE HAVING A PLAY SPACE THAT'S VISIBLE BY PARENTS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CHILD CARE [INAUDIBLE]. WE'RE REALLY MISSING OUT ON REVENUE, WHERE FAMILIES WHO HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN OR EVEN OLDER CHILDREN BUT QUITE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO BE IN THE GYM BY THEMSELVES.

THEY DON'T REALLY COME TO OUR FACILITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO.

AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED IN OUR MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN TO CONSIDER WHEN WE LOOK AT EXPANDING THE RECREATION CENTER.

WE'RE ALSO FAIRLY SHORT ON OFFICE SPACE.

I AM PLEASED TO SAY THAT WITH MY MOVE TO THE SERVICE CENTER, WE WERE ABLE TO BRING SOMEONE A STORAGE AREA INTO AN ACTUAL OFFICE.

WE DO HAVE EVERYONE IN AN OFFICE RIGHT NOW, BUT AS WE EXPAND AND GROW, THE CITY GROWS.

WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE. SO I THINK THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY UTILIZE. ABLZ HAS IDEAS OF EXPANSION OF A GYM OR RACQUETBALL AREAS, SAUNA, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT SOME OTHER AREAS THAT, WE SEE [INAUDIBLE] OUR RENTAL SPACE THAT SERVE ALSO ARE MULTI-PURPOSE BUT WHEN WE HAVE PROGRAMS IN THAT AREA, THEY ARE NO LONGER RENTAL SPACE.

WE HAVE COMPETING INTERESTS THERE, AND WE COULD REALLY USE AN ADDITIONAL MULTI-SPACE [INAUDIBLE] ACCESSIBLE TO PATRONS 24/7 TO GO IN THERE TO HOLD CLASSES BUT THEN ALSO MIC]. I WAS LIKE WE OPENING UP THE HOURS AGAIN?UTILIZE THE AEROBICS ROOM, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE SENIOR PROGRAMS IN THERE AS WELL.

SO THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO JUGGLE ALL OF THAT.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SOME STRIDES WITH OUR DROP DOWN CURTAINS TO MAKE THAT A MULTI FUNCTIONAL AREA IN THE GYM, BUT EVEN IN THE SUMMER WHEN WE HAVE SUMMER CAMP, WE ARE MAXING OUT THAT AREA AND WE'RE HAVING. TO CLOSE SECTIONS DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE JUST PACKED.

WE'VE GOT ACTIONS, CLASSES OR AEROBIC CLASSES, SUMMER CAMP, AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP SIDE WITH THE GYM OPEN FOR BASKETBALL.

SO SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN WE LOOK AT RENOVATION OF THE RECREATION CENTER.

DO WE HAVE A, ARE WE PRE COVID WHERE WE CLOSE THE CAPACITY AND THE WORKOUT AREA? YOU KNOW.

PRE-COVID? BECAUSE I KNOW AT A TIME I KNOW DR.

JACKSON OR GEORGE ONE OF THEM, IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE TIME, EARLY MORNING.

AND THE DAY.BUT LIKE I YOU KNOW, MY WIFE USED TO WORK OUT THERE PRE- COVID BEFORE AND IN THE MORNING, PRE-COVID IT WAS NOT LIKE TO CAPACITY, BUT YOU DID HAVE TO WAIT ON A SPOT IF SOMEBODY ELSE WAS WORKING OUT QUITE OFTEN AND IT'S THE SAME THING POST.

AND IT'S THAT AREA IS HARD TO EXPAND BECAUSE OF WHERE IT'S AT.

BUT IF YOU HAD THE PLAN OF THE BUILDING, YOU COULD LOOK AT THE WHEN WE ORIGINALLY BUILT TWO WEEKS, WE PLANNED ON THE EXPANSION.

GOING TO THE BACK, I GUESS, WOULD BE TO THE WEST WAS WHERE WE KEPT UTILITIES.

WE DID THINGS TO GO THAT WAY.

BUT YOU COULD EASILY POSSIBLY CONVERT IF YOU NEEDED MORE GYM SPACE CONVERT THE EXISTING GYM ROOM INTO SOMETHING ELSE AND CREATE ADDITIONAL SPACE IN THE BACK.

AND ANYWAY, DEPENDING ON THE FOOTPRINT, THERE'S A.

SOME WAYS TO REARRANGE AND GET THE THINGS, BECAUSE YOUR OFFICE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN IN THERE, IT'S JUST LIKE A CLOSET.

IT JUST DIDN'T HAVE MUCH ROOM AND.WAS TO INCREASE REVENUE.

I THINK JERRY BROUGHT IT UP AT THE ABLC MEETING PARKS MEETING ONE TIME AND MAYBE IT WAS WHEN [INAUDIBLE] AND WILLIAM WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS SIGN OR ANY NEW AMENITY, MAYBE BRING NEW MEMBERSHIP. AND SO I BROUGHT UP EARLIER ABOUT THE SPLASH PAD AT FREEDOM PARK.

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THEY MAY JOIN A GYM OR IF WE HAD IT INSIDE OF AN ENCLOSED AREA WHETHER THERE WAS SOME KIND OF FENCE OR WROUGHT IRON WHATEVER THEY WOULD ENJOIN THE REC CENTER.

AND TO UTILIZE THE SPLASH PAD WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED ONE TO DO THAT, I'M JUST I'M LOOKING AT IT AS. SOME OF THESE AMENITIES ALSO HAD SOME REVENUE ENHANCEMENT TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO COME TO THE GYM BECAUSE AFTER A WHILE SOMETHING GETS KIND OF BORING.

YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING NEW. I KNOW THE UPGRADE TO THE POOL WAS REALLY NICE, BUT THAT WAS SOME OF MY. COMMENTS RELATED TO THAT, BUT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR YEARS TO HAVE A TRAIL BUT THE OTHER THING, AFTER WATCHING THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO COVID, WHICH WAS REALLY GOOD THAT Y'ALL HAD WATER HANDOUTS, YOU HAD CHARGE STATIONS, YOU HAD EVERYTHING OUT THERE THAT SEEMS TO BE OUR KIND OF COMMAND CENTER DURING AN EVENT LIKE THAT.

SO GETTING A GENERATOR THAT WILL RUN THAT FOR HURRICANES RUN THAT FREEZE WHATEVER WOULD REALLY BE NICE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WE MAY HAVE EVERYTHING ELSE WE NEED FOR PEOPLE TO CHARGE THEIR PHONES, BECAUSE I HEARD THAT A LOT DURING THE FREEZE IS THE PHONES WERE DEAD. AND I HAD A BACKUP CHARGER, SO I DIDN'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE.

BUT I KNOW THAT WOULD BE KIND OF SCARY FOR SOME PEOPLE IF THEY COULD CALL OUR, YOU KNOW, THE BATTERY WAS DEAD ON THAT OR THEY NEEDED A PLACE, TAKE A SHOWER OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

THE CITY IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON SEVERAL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED JUST AS PART OF OUR ACTION AFTER ACTION REVIEW, WE IDENTIFIED A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND ALL CITYWIDE.

WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE ONE OF WHICH IS THE GENERATOR, A BACKUP GENERATOR WITH CONNECT AND ALSO PERMANENT GAS HOOKUP THAT WILL PERMANENTLY BE THERE SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] CARES REIMBURSEMENT WHICH CHRIS HAD MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY. YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT AREA THAT'S OUTSIDE OF BASICALLY WHERE THE BASKETBALL GYM IS. WE DID START [INAUDIBLE] ONE YEAR, A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS THERE AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT UNLESS YOU'RE, LIKE, REALLY LOOKING FOR IT, BECAUSE THERE IS A CONCRETE WALL RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF'S ACTUALLY WORKING ON, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY BE A REVENUE GENERATOR AND WHILE AGAIN, EXPANSION OF THE REC CENTER MAY BE A LONG TERM GOAL.

THINGS LIKE THIS COULD BE A GREAT IDEA FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON IS REMOVING THE WALL, PUTTING UP, STRAND LIGHTING PUT IN SOME PROGRAM AMENITIES OUT THERE LIKE CONCRETE.

WHAT ARE THEY? CORNHOLE AND PING PONG. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S A GREAT LITTLE SPOT THAT NOBODY KNOWS.

RIGHT. THAT NOBODY KNOWS IS THERE IF YOU JUST WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SEE IT.

RIGHT. YEAH.

SO WE ARE WORKING ON THIS THINGS AND THOSE COULD BE SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD INSTITUTE FAIRLY QUICKLY. I SAW ON THE BOTTOM THERE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING A RECOMMENDATION READING A PART OF THE MASTER PLAN, WHEN WE HAVE THESE IDEAS OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT COULD REALLY BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST GET SOME DEALERS OUT THERE. DO Y'ALL EVER SURVEY THE RECS, THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE REC CENTER AND ASK THEM? I KNOW IN MY TIME I DON'T THINK WE HAVE. IN MY TIME HERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHEN WE DID THE MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE DID AND WE INVITED THE PUBLIC.

AND WE HAD A LOT OF INPUT THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF THE THINGS LIKE INDOOR CHILD CARE OR SOME KIND OF PLAY ELEMENT OR EXPANSION OF THE RURAL, IF THERE'S A RURAL ELEMENT.

WE ALSO HEAR EXPANSION ON THE GYM.

YEAH, SENIOR AREA.ACTUAL ITEM AND WHETHER THAT IS A PUBLIC SURVEY.

IF YOU GUYS JUST WANT US TO PURSUE SOME OF THESE SMALLER PROJECTS, WE CAN CONSIDER THAT.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GAIN SOME PUBLIC INPUT REGARDING SOME OF THE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AND KIND OF LOOK [INAUDIBLE] AS WELL. SO CHRIS MENTIONED THAT A GENERATOR AND BILLINGS FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] VIEW THAT WAS A POTENTIAL RECOVERY CENTER, NOT NECESSARILY A SHELTER. THEN THE REVERSE OSMOSIS THAT'LL GET DONE MONDAY, SO THAT'LL HAVE A POTABLE WATER SOURCE AT ALL TIMES, OR DO THE GENERATOR CONNECT UP TO THE CARES

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OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. SO THEY RAN THEIR GENERATOR DURING THE FREEZE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WITH POWER IT COULD BE IT'D BE NICE IF WE HAD ONE OF OUR OWN GENERATORS THERE. WE HAVE WE ALREADY HAVE NATURAL GAS THERE.

SO IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF RUNNING IT IN PLACE, BUT.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE FREEZE AND THEN HURRICANE, THAT THAT'S JUST THE IDEAL PLACE, I MEAN, Y 'ALL COULD EVEN IF YOU HAD TO COULD OPERATE THE CITY OUT OF THERE, IF IT CAME TO IT.

BUT FOR THE PUBLIC, I HEARD SO MANY GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT THE WATER DISTRIBUTION AND COMMENTS THAT THEY HAD A PLACE TO COME TAKE A SHOWER.

SHOWER, YES. IT WAS. YEAH, SHOWER AND STUFF.

SO IT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

SO YOU THINK YOU WANT US TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT.

I THINK SUPPORTING THAT AS A USE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY DONE THAT OFFICIALLY IN THE PAST AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING IT OFFICIALLY UNTIL WE MAKE IT.

THAT'S OFFICIALLY A RECOVERY CENTER.

AND THEN WE YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO GET THE WATER TAKEN CARE OF.

WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, COLLECTING RAINWATER OFF THE GUTTERS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GENERATOR HOOK UP.

BECAUSE AT LEAST WE HAVE THE HOOK UP. THEN WE CAN RUN A GENERATOR.

WE KNOW IT'S GOOD TO GO.

RIGHT. AND WE WORK LONG TERM SOLUTION, BUT THROUGH MITIGATION GRANT OR OTHER FUNDING TO GET A PERMANENT GENERATOR, THAT MEANS WE CAN NO IT JUST IT SEEMS LIKE THE IDEAL PLACE TO UTILIZE.

SO WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ON THE SURVEY? DO YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO.

GO FORWARD WITH THAT OR JUST WORK ON IT INTERNALLY FOR THE TIME BEING? WE CAN CERTAINLY COME UP WITH A STAFF PRIORITIZATION LIST.

WE CAN BEGIN WITH THAT.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S. IT WOULD BE WISE TO GET PUBLIC INPUT ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. NOW WE CAN START OFF BRINGING THAT LIST OF ITEMS TO YOU ALL BASED ON WHAT INPUT WE'VE RECEIVED ALREADY FROM THE PUBLIC FROM AND AS FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND THEN WE CAN DEVELOP THAT INTO A SURVEY AGAIN.

AND AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

SO DO YOU WANT A [INAUDIBLE] TO GO AHEAD VOTE ON THAT, OR IS THAT JUST WRITTEN? YOU SAID POSSIBLE ACTIONS.

IF YOU WILL, I THINK GOING BACK TO WHAT CHRIS'S POINT WAS, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE RECREATION, THE RECREATION CENTER.

BE A RECOVERY HUB CAN I HAVE A MOTION ON THAT? I'LL MOVE. I'LL MOTION, I WANT TO SAY THIS CORRECTLY, MAKE THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AS THE RECOVERY HUB.

RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND MAKE SURE I'M SAYING THIS RIGHT NOW.

I'LL SECOND IT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO MAKE THE ANGLETON REC CENTER A RECOVERY HUB OR A RECOVERY CENTER, WHATEVER.

WE HAVE THE WE CAN JUST TAKE YOUR DIRECTION AS A STAFF FOR THAT ONE.

I HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR OF SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN ALL RIGHT.

TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.

[6. Discussion on Recreation Division updates.]

SO [INAUDIBLE] DURING THE FORMAL BIDDING PROCESS, STAFF RECEIVED NO RFPS ON THE PROJECT [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTION, REACHED OUT AFTER THAT FORMAL BIDDING PROCESS.

AND SUBMITTED A BID TO US AND WE RECEIVED THEIR BID ON JANUARY 5TH OF 2021 TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT FOR FIFTY THREE THOUSAND TWO SEVENTY FOUR AND SIXTY SIX CENTS.

HOWEVER, I DO HAVE AN UPDATE TO THIS.

WE RECENTLY REACHED BACK OUT TO [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTION TO RECEIVE A AGREEMENT FOR THE PROJECT DUE TO THE LENGTH OF TIME THEY HAVE HAD TO UPDATE THAT BID WITH MATERIAL COSTS, THAT BID IS NOW AT FIFTY NINE THOUSAND THREE, EIGHTY THREE AND 70 CENTS.

THIS WAS THE ONLY BID RECEIVED, SO STAFF WILL PRESENT THE BID TO ADLC AT NEXT WEEK'S

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WE FOUND THAT WE ALSO HAVE MANY WITHIN OUR EXISTING POOL MAINTENANCE BUDGET TO COVER THAT INCREASE AS WELL.

SO WE ARE DOING OK TO COVER ALL THOSE COSTS.

ONCE APPROVED STAFF WILL PRESENT THE PROPOSED BID AGREEMENT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

[INAUDIBLE] DURING THAT FORMAL BIDDING PROCESS.

WE RECEIVED ONE RFP ON THE PROJECT, BUT TO BE STRATEGIC WITH CITY FUNDS, WE ISSUED AN ADDENDUM FOR ADDITIONAL BIDS.

AND WE RECEIVED TWO TOTAL FOR THE PROJECT RANGING FROM FORTY TWO THOUSAND FORTY TWO TO FIFTY ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE DOLLARS AND EIGHTY CENTS.

THIS IS FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THREE SETS OF DOUBLE DOORS AND TWO SINGLE DOORS IN THE AQUATICS AREA JUST DUE TO THE ENVIRONMENT IN THERE, THEY HAVE CORRODED SOME OF THEM HAVE EVEN LOST THE LOCKS ON THEM. SO [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTION OFFERED AN ALTERNATIVE TO TO DO ONLY TWO SETS OF DOORS AND TWO SINGLE DOORS THAT BID CAME IN AT TWENTY THOUSAND TWO TH IRTY FOUR AND NINETY THREE CENTS.

THEY ALSO SUBMITTED A BID FOR THE CONCRETE PAD.

THAT IS, IF YOU'RE IN THE FOR [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE EAST SET OF DOUBLE DOORS, AND THAT IS THAT FOUR THOUSAND TWO SIXTY FOUR FOR THE CONCRETE PAD ALONE.

THE LOWEST BID WITH BEST GUARANTEEING COVER THE WHOLE PROJECT IS FROM NAVCO.

ANOTHER COMPANY WAS CONTACTED THAT SHOWED INTEREST IN BIDDING FOR THE PROJECT, BUT DID NOT GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH STAFF.

SO WE WILL PRESENT THE BID TO ABLC.

NEXT MONDAY AS WELL TO BE PART OF THE PROJECT AND AGAIN, UTILIZING RECREATION FUND BALANCE FUNDING. AND ONCE APPROVED, WE'LL PRESENT THE PROPOSED BID AND AGREEMENT TO COUNCIL.

ON THE ROOF COUNCIL APPROVED J.

CO.'S CONTRACT ON JANUARY 26, THEY BEGAN WORKING ON THE ROOF ON FEBRUARY 23RD AND THEY.

HAVE, STAFF WAS PROVIDED PROGRESS PHOTOS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

AND AS OF 3/31, THEY ARE 80 PERCENT COMPLETE UNTIL TODAY, I CAN TELL YOU TODAY THEY ARE WAITING. THEY ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 90 PERCENT COMPLETE AS OF RIGHT NOW WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE INSPECTION WITH THEM.

I WILL PROVIDE Y'ALL AN UPDATE, BUT WE'RE ALMOST THERE, ALMOST THERE.

YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATE COUNCIL APPROVED THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ON MARCH 9TH, OF 2021 [INAUDIBLE]MEMBERS ARE SUPPORTING STAFF, SO STAFF IS CURRENTLY UPDATING THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

IT HOPES TO I THINK WE SAID WE WOULD TRY TO HAVE THAT DONE IN MAY.

TO BRING ONBOARD OR START THAT APPLICATION PROCESS.

EVENTS AND PROGRAMS, SO PARTICIPATION AND RECREATION PROGRAMS AND EVENTS IS ACTUALLY STARTING TO PICK UP WITH MORE VACCINATION OPPORTUNITIES AND REMOVAL OF GOVERNMENT MANDATES. WE ARE SEEING MORE FOLKS PARTICIPATING.

WE ARE HAVING SENIORS COME FOR IN-PERSON BINGO AND COFFEE AND CHAT.

REGISTRATION FOR SUMMER JAMBOREE.

AND ALSO LIKE WE MENTIONED WE'RE HAVING A JUNIOR ANGLER PROGRAM AND WE'VE ALSO HAD.

START IT SMART PARTICIPATION AS WELL.

SO WE ARE ALSO HOSTING THE INAUGURAL BATES' BRUNCH DISC GOLF TOURNAMENT THIS COMING SATURDAY, APRIL 17TH. WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, 25 AS OF RIGHT NOW, REGISTRANTS FOR THE DISC GOLF TOURNAMENT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MUSIC.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOUNCE HOUSE AND FOOD IF ALL COME OUT IF YOU CAN THIS SATURDAY, IT STARTS AT 9:00, TO SEE THE DISC GOLFERS OUT SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED AND HOPE THAT THIS CAN BE KIND OF A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AREA DISC GOLF CLUBS.

TO PROVIDE. THIS HAS KIND OF LIKE A SPRING EVENT ANNUALLY.

THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.

DISC GOLF IS REALLY BIG IN THE AREA, BUT IT IS.

RENTALS HAVE ALSO OPENED BACK UP TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH THEY STARTED TAKING RESERVATIONS IN MARCH, AND WE ARE BEGINNING TO HOLD THOSE THIS MONTH IN APRIL, WE'RE STEADILY SEEING THEM AND ESPECIALLY PARK RENTALS I THINK WITH JUST BEING OUT IN THE OPEN AND SOCIAL DISTANCING OPPORTUNITIES WE'VE REALLY SEE THOSE PICK UP AND PRIVATE POOL PARTIES.

ITEM SEVEN, DISCUSSION OF PARK DIVISION UPDATES.

[7. Discussion on Parks Division updates. ]

QUICK RUNDOWN ON THE PARKS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM, RECOMMENDATIONS [INAUDIBLE] A GOOD AMENITY ADDED TO THE PARKS.

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GO AHEAD AND GET THE FIRST PHASE COMPLETED.

WE STARTED THOSE ON MARCH 18TH AND PROBABLY A COUPLE OF THEM NOT COMING ON.

BUT THE FOLLOWING WEEK, WE HAD IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT THERE AND CHECK IT OUT.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE COMMENTS ON IT.

JUST KIND OF TO GIVE A RECAP ON HOW THEY WERE THE FIRST TWO HOURS THAT THEY COME ON THEY'RE 100 PERCENT.[INAUDIBLE] THEY DROP DOWN TO 60 PERCENT.

NEXT FOUR HOURS, MAYBE 30 PERCENT.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT GOES TO 60/20.

[INAUDIBLE]. ANY COMPLAINTS FROM SURROUNDING RESIDENTS AS FAR AS TOO MUCH LIGHT OR ANYTHING.

THEY ACTUALLY THEY PROJECT DOWN.

YEAH.

IF YOU DRIVE BY AND I HAVEN'T HAD THE ENERGY TO GO RUNNING TO SEE BUT I CAN SEE THE LIGHTS THAT ARE AND I WENT THAT NIGHT TO GO LOOK AT THEM I PULLED IN RIGHT THERE WHERE THE GATE IS [INAUDIBLE] AND I LOOKED ACROSS THE FIELD AND I DIDN'T SEE THE [INAUDIBLE].

I NATURALLY PANICKED THINKING ALL THESE LIGHTS WEREN'T WORKING. BY THE TIME I GOT AROUND HALFWAY OVER THERE, YOU CAN SEE THEM, SO.

DO THEY MAKE IT? IS THERE ENOUGH CHARGE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE NIGHT? OH, YEAH. YOU CAN GO LIKE HOW CLOUDY IT WAS TODAY.

WE HAD THREE OR FOUR DAYS OF CLOUDINESS AND IT STILL WILL BE HAVING THAT CHARGE.

I THINK THEY SAID IT HAS A FIVE DAY CHARGE.

AND IT DOESN'T, ALL IT NEEDS IS THREE HOURS OF SUNLIGHT FOR THE BATTERY TO GET CHARGED.

I THINK YES, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

[INAUDIBLE] IT SAVES MORE MONEY AND POWER AND ACTUALLY WHAT WE DID WHEN WE WERE THE FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT, THE VENDOR PROVIDED US WITH A DEMO LIGHT.

ACTUALLY, JUST. GAVE IT TO US AND THEY SHIPPED THE POLES TO US.

WE HAD ONE POLE [INAUDIBLE] WE'LL USE THAT PART [INAUDIBLE] THE SOCCER COMPLEX, SO PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE GATE.

IS THIS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND ARE WE DOING LIGHTS IN LAKESIDE PARK? BUT YOUR WORK WITH HIM, YOU THINK THAT.

WE'RE WORKING ON HOW DID YOU DECIDE TO DO? YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING SOME JUST A QUICK, SMALL UPDATE FOR YOU GUYS [INAUDIBLE] THIS MONDAY TO RESTRIPE THE PARKING LOT OUT AT THE SITE, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE].

? APPRECIATE IT, MR. [INAUDIBLE] I GUESS WE ARE DONE.

8:37.

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