>> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
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WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING,[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
TUESDAY, APRIL THE 13TH AT 6:04 PM.I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL US TO ORDER.
[NOISE] IF YOU PLEASE WANT TO RISE WITH US TO JOIN US IN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND OUR INVOCATION.
>> PRAY WITH ME PLEASE. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER WE'VE SEEN, THE NEW LIFE, BEAUTIFUL GREENERY THAT'S COMING ABOUT.
FATHER, THANK YOU THAT YOU REVEAL YOURSELF THROUGH NATURE.
LORD, WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH US TONIGHT AS WE CARRY OUT YOUR BUSINESS.
THIS IS YOUR BUSINESS, FATHER, WE'RE SERVANTS OF YOURS AND WE DESIRE TO BE SERVANTS OF THIS CITY WHO'S ELECTED US TO ACT ON THEIR BEHALF.
FATHER, BE WITH US AS WE GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS TONIGHT, WATCH OVER OUR EMPLOYEES HERE AT THE CITY IN WHATEVER CAPACITY THEY HELP.
FATHER PROTECT THEM AND GIVE THEM YOUR BEST.
FATHER, WE PRAY THESE THINGS IN CHRIST'S NAME. AMEN.
>> THANK YOU. WELCOME ONCE AGAIN, EMPLOYEES, STAFF, VISITORS, GUESTS, TONIGHT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO RIGHT ON INTO CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL.
[CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL]
WE DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO US, WILLIAMS [INAUDIBLE] PODIUM IS YOURS, SIR.>> [INAUDIBLE] SHARE MY TALKING POINTS? [LAUGHTER]. IS THAT ALL RIGHT?
>> IT'S FINE, IT'S ONLY DEFAULT.
THIS IS YOU ALL'S AGENDA. LIKE HE SAID, MY NAME IS WILLIAMS [INAUDIBLE].
I'M EX CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, SO I WANT TO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO.
I KNOW THE TIME INVOLVED AND A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY YOU ALL GET FOR THIS AND THE HARD DECISIONS YOU MAKE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE AUSTIN COLONY PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
I THINK IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU ALL BEFORE.
THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS BEFORE AND I TRIED TO WATCH THE FACEBOOK MEETING ABOUT WHAT COMMENTS WERE MADE.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHICH COMMENTS WERE MADE SO I CAN TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
MAKE SOME HISTORY WHILE WE'RE SELLING, ET CETERA.
BUT FIRST OFF, FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE MOST OF YOUR LIFE, AND TRAVIS, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH NOW THAT YOU CAN APPRECIATE THIS.
I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE SITTING AT WALMART'S PARKING LOT, WALMART NOT HAVING WHAT YOU NEED OR YOU DECIDING YOU WANT TO GO LAKE JACKSON HOUSTON. WHICH WAY ARE YOU GOING TO GO? ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE A LEFT, GO DOWN ANDERSON, TAKE A LEFT? MAYBE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HOUSTON, YOU FOLLOW, YOU GO STRAIGHT AND GET ON PETER ROAD.
THEN YOU TAKE A LEFT ON CAR ROAD FROM LAKE JACKSON AND THEN I TAKE A RIGHT ON COUNTY ROAD 44.
THEN I GO OVER IT, THE HIGHWAY AND TAKE A LEFT ONTO 88 FINALLY.
WHILE I'M GOING RIGHT OUT OF THERE, DEPEND ON TRAFFIC AND MAYBE GO DOWN PASS ALL THESE, GO TAKE A RIGHT AT ONE OF THE CVS OR WALGREENS AND MAKE ANOTHER RIGHT AT 44, I ENDED UP EXACTLY WHERE I STARTED, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RECTANGLE.
HOW NICE WOULD IT BE TO GO THROUGH AND HAVE THAT STREET TO GO THROUGH? IF YOU CAN RECALL, WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL, WE HAD A WORKSHOP.
ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE WISH LIST WAS FOR THAT ROAD TO GO THROUGH, TIGNER DRIVE.
I THINK NOW WHETHER WE CAN AGREE ON LOT SIZES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, HOW MANY THERE ARE, HOW BIG THEY ARE, WHATEVER, I THINK EVERYBODY CAN AGREE THEY WANT THAT ROAD TO GO THROUGH.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS CALLED TIGNER DRIVE FOR ONE REASON.
WAY BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WALMART WASN'T THERE AND TEXAS GULF WASN'T THERE, THERE WAS A LAND DALE AND IT WAS PROBABLY IN '80S, I DON'T KNOW, '90S, AND WALMART CAME.
THE CITY DIDN'T WANT TO PAY FOR THE ROAD.
AS PART OF THE DALE, MONEY HAD TO COME FROM THE DALE BASE AND PAY FOR THE ROAD.
THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY THEY CALLED IT TIGNER ROAD, TIGNER DRIVE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT TIGNER.
DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, BUT THAT'S HOW IT IS.
THIS ROAD DOESN'T GET BUILT ON CITY'S FUNDS. IT'S WAY TOO EXPENSIVE.
I KNOW THAT OUR ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WE HAD MAYBE 250,000, IT MIGHT BE MORE NOW.
A LOT IT'S A STREET IMPROVEMENTS EVERY YEAR AND WE TRIED TO DO, AND THEY'RE TWO YEARS BEHIND WHEN I WAS ON THERE.
THAT DOESN'T EVEN GET YOU HARDLY A MILE OF STREET IN THE CITY.
THIS IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER JUST A ROAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THE CITY CAN SAVE IF THIS PROJECT GOES THROUGH.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK TRAVIS SAID THAT,
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HOLDING THE KEYS, DOESN'T WANT TO GET THE FARM AWAY FOR FREE.ASK YOURSELF THIS, WHAT HAVE THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS DONE THAT HAVE BENEFITED SOMEONE NOT WANTING A NEW HOUSE IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON? NOTHING. THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE BETTER TRANSPORTATION OR EASE OF USE TO GET THROUGH THE CITY OR TWO PLACES IN THE CITY.
THEY PROVIDED THROUGH STREETS TO GET TO THEIR HOUSES, AND THAT WAS IT.
WE'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS OF WHEN CERTAIN THINGS COME IN BECAUSE THE ROAD ENDS UP EMPTYING ON THEIR ROAD, OF COURSE.
WE'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS, BUT NONE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BROUGHT ANYTHING OTHER THAN HOUSES FOR YOU TO CHOOSE FROM.
LIKE I SAID, IF I DON'T BUY, IF YOU DON'T BUY A HOUSE IN THIS SUBDIVISION, YOU ALL WILL BE BENEFITING FROM THE SUBDIVISION BY THIS ROAD GOING THROUGH.
THE CITY BENEFITS FOR SAVING THE MONEY.
AGAIN, IT GIVES YOU BETTER ACCESS TO THE PARK THAT YOU-ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT AS WELL.
I'VE HEARD IT'S ONE OF AMERICA'S BEST HOMEBUILDERS OR NICEST HOMEBUILDERS, DR. HORTON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD OF THEM.
SOME OTHER HISTORY OF THE LAND IS I THINK COMMERCIAL VIABILITY WAS BROUGHT UP AND I THINK THOSE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
SPECIFICALLY, I THINK THEY MET WITH MR. WRIGHT AND NOW HE'S MODIFIED HIS PLAN, RESERVE SOME COMMERCIAL SPACE.
THIS GOES WITH WHAT MR. BOOTH BROUGHT UP AS WELL, THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHY WE'RE SELLING THE LAND NOW.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CATTLE COUNTRY AND THAT'S HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.
WE'RE SELLING THE LAND NOW BECAUSE THERE'S TWO OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY NOW; MY DAD AND MY AUNT, AND ME DOING DIVORCE LAW OR ANYBODY CAN APPRECIATE, SOMEONE KNOWS SOMEONE WHO GOT DIVORCED, IT'S HARD FOR TWO PEOPLE TO AGREE TO THINGS.
IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN WHEN THESE TWO OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ARE HERE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH EIGHT OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
GOOD LUCK ON GETTING EIGHT PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE AND INCOMES AND MARRIAGE STATUSES TO AGREE TO ONE THING.
IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S BEEN MARKETED OVER THE YEARS.
[INAUDIBLE] HAD A SIGN ON IT AT THE TIGNER DRIVE FOR YEARS.
NOBODY WANTS A 180 ACRES OF LAND.
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A BIG COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WANTS ROAD FRONTAGE.
THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH ROAD FRONTAGE WITHOUT A ROAD GOING THROUGH IT.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF 100 YARDS ON COUNTY ROAD 44 AND THAT'S ALL THE FRONTAGE IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE THE DEAD END AT TIGNER.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU PUT A ROAD THROUGH, IT BECOMES MORE COMMERCIAL VIABLE PROPERTY.
BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PUT THAT ROAD THROUGH AND YOU-ALL DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT ROAD THROUGH.
AGAIN, I GO BACK TO COMPROMISE, THE RESERVING SOME OF THE LAND FOR COMMERCIAL AND YOU-ALL ARE GETTING THAT ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S PAYING FOR, BUT WHEN WHILE I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL, WE BASICALLY PAID FOR THE UPGRADES.
I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PORTION OF THE CITY, BUT DEVELOPERS GOING TO BASICALLY HELP CITY OUT QUITE A BIT ON THE EXPENDITURE OF THIS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW I'VE TAKEN ALL MY TIME, I THINK I'VE HIT SOME POINTS.
I DO WANT TO SAY, MR. RAY, HE'S ONE OF THE MORE TRUSTWORTHY DEVELOPERS AND UPFRONT THAT I'VE DEALT WITH.
I'VE DEALT WITH A COUPLE OF YOUR DEVELOPERS, COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT OUR LAND, THAT YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED IN THIS CITY, AND I PROBABLY WOULDN'T DEAL WITH THEM.
BUT MR. RAY, HE'S BEEN UPFRONT AND HONEST FROM DAY ONE WITH US ABOUT THIS WHOLE LAND, THE VIABILITY OF IT, WHETHER THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD ON IT OR JUST LOOK OVER HERE, ''LET'S TIE UP THIS LAND WHILE WE GO OVER HERE AND GET THIS ONE DONE TO PREVENT OTHER DEVELOPERS COMING IN HERE,'' BECAUSE THAT'S HAPPENING. THANK YOU.
>> IF THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG INTO OUR CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS,
[CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS]
PRESENTATIONS OF EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS, COLLEEN, CHRIS?>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
IN COLLABORATION WITH TXU ENERGY, 23 OF 46 SOLAR LIGHTS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED ALONG THE FREEDOM PARK WALKING TRAIL.
THIS IS A TWO-YEAR PROJECT AND THE CITY WAS ELIGIBLE FOR TXUS GREENBACK ENERGY-EFFICIENCY REBATE, WHICH AWARDS THE CITY 13,000 PER YEAR FOR TWO YEARS.
THE PUBLIC ROADWAYS IMPACTED BY THIS SOLAR LIGHTING PROJECT INCLUDE DALLAS STREET, WHICH RECEIVED NINE LIGHTS, AND IN PROGRESS ARE RICHMOND, WHICH WILL GET 10 LIGHTS, AND SOUTHSIDE DRIVE AT 15 LIGHTS.
FUTURE STREETS TO RECEIVE LIGHTS ARE PINEY WAY, HOUSTON, AND BASS DROP.
THE CITY OF ANGLETON WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE PROJECT LEADERS, PATTY SWORDS, LINDSAY KOSKINIEMI,
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JEFF SIFFORD, AND MEGHAN MAINER AT THIS TIME.>> COME ON UP, DON'T BE BASHFUL.
I'M SORRY, THIS IS NOT MY NIKE, THIS IS MY DREAMER'S GROUP.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT TOOK THIS CONCEPT AND THEY DEVELOPED IT.
THEY FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET IT DONE IN THE RIGHT SPECS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, SO I WANTED RECOGNIZE THIS DREAMER GROUP [APPLAUSE].
>> SLIDE OVER AND THEN SWITCH A LITTLE BIT.
>> HOLD ON, YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING CONCEPTS, EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES, AND MAKING IT HAPPEN.
WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IS PIONEERING STUFF.
WE GOT DEVELOPERS LOOKING AT US AND OTHER CITIES LOOKING AT US FOR THE THINGS YOU DID. IT WASN'T HARD.
THERE WAS NO BOOK SOLUTION FOR THAT.
BUT YOU ALL NEED TO STAY UP HERE.
THE NEXT GROUP IS THE NIKE GROUP, THE JUST DO IT.
THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT REPRESENT THE TOTAL GROUP THAT MADE THIS HAPPEN AND DID IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, DID AN EXCELLENT JOB AND WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK, SO A TOTAL TEAM EFFORT.
>> ALONG WITH THESE PROJECT LEADERS, THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE PARK'S TEAM MEMBERS: STEWART CROUCH, EPIGMENIO BADOYA, KEITH BOONEY, RICKY MALAVETS, CHRIS THOMPSON, ROBERT HILBERT, RICKY OLSTON, KEVIN RANDALL, XAVIER MACBETH, RAMUNDO CANTU, EDDY RENTORIA, JIMMY MCGOWEN, AND TIM WILLIAMS, AND PUBLIC WORKS TEAM MEMBERS, JOSH WILDY, ANDY BILLINGSLEY, LUIS DELGADO, THOMAS HALL, TERRENCE DIGGS, AND NEVADA BONTE MORE, FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING WORK ON THE CITY OF ANGLETON SOLAR LIGHTING PROJECT.
[APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND] [INAUDIBLE].
YOU ALL OF THE WORKERS. YOU ALL ARE THE GUYS WE HAVE.
>> THEY'LL JUST SEE MY BALD HEAD. THAT'S ALL THEY NEED TO SEE. [LAUGHTER]
>> HOLD ON JUST A SECOND, CHRIS.
>> IS THAT PART OF THIS GROUP, CHRIS, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO NEXT, YES, NO?
>> IS WHAT YOU FIT NEXT TO DO NEXT PART OF THIS GROUP?
>> OKAY. BECAUSE ME AND JOHN HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY WHEN WE FINISH UP THESE GUYS.
>> YEAH. WE'VE GOT TH2, WE GOT THE REAL CHECK PRESENTATION.
[LAUGHTER] MEGHAN WHY DON'T YOU COME ON UP, UPFRONT TOO [BACKGROUND].
>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY, [LAUGHTER] ON BEHALF OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU, GUYS.
YOU ALL HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
YOU'RE THE GUYS THAT ALLOWS US TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS AND LET ME SAY I'VE HEARD A MILLION RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT STREETLIGHTS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DEFINITELY NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS COUNCIL HAVE NOT PUT AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE, AND NOW IT'S AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE.
WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHT, THE HARD WORK, THE LABOR GOING OUT THERE AND READJUSTING THE LIGHTS, I THINK AT THE BEGINNING IT HAD READJUSTMENTS.
BUT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AND IT'S WELL THOUGHT OF PROCESS THAT YOU ALL WENT THROUGH.
CHRIS WAS [INAUDIBLE] FOR ME, KEPT ME [INAUDIBLE] EVERY TIME WE ALL WERE DOING SOMETHING.
WE JUST CAN'T SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH AND THE RESIDENTS AT THOSE STREETS, MAN, THUMBS UP.
I GOT MORE EMAILS AND THE CORRESPONDENCE FROM THOSE GUYS.
NOW I'M GETTING WHEN'S MY STREET NEXT? [LAUGHTER].
>> IT'S A PROCESS. THANKS TO TXU IN HELPING US GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT MAKES OUR JOB THE MOST ENJOYABLE, IS WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN.
WE'RE GET DOWN AND DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT, MAKES IT ROUGH, BUT THIS IS WHAT MAKES US TO KEEP GOING BACK TO THE TABLE DAY AFTER DAY. THANK YOU.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, CHRIS, I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE WHEN I CAME TO YOU WITH THIS IDEA, I'D COME TO ABOUT THREE OTHER CITY MANAGERS WITH THIS IDEA, AND THEY KEPT SAYING, WE'RE WORRIED, WE'RE ON HOLD, WE'RE GOING TO STUDY THIS,
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WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT, AND THEN NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.IT TOOK YOU AND THEN ALL OF YOU MAKING IT HAPPEN FOR THE CITIZENS AND I CAN TELL YOU, AS MAYOR SAID, THE PEOPLE IN DALLAS STREET WONDERED, HOW DID WE GET SO LUCKY TO BE THE FIRST STREET? IT WAS BECAUSE A RESIDENT COMPLAINED ENOUGH AND WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
NOW EVERYBODY WANTS THE SAME THING AND JEFF, I KNOW YOU WORKED TIRELESSLY ON IT.
I KNOW ALL OF YOU DID, GOING OUT THERE AND READJUSTING AND I KEPT SENDING OUT EMAIL SAYING, LIGHTS ARE OFF AT MID NIGHT, LIGHTS WENT OFF AT 3 AM [LAUGHTER].
BUT, I'LL TELL YOU, I WALKED DOWN DALLAS STREET THE VERY FIRST WEEK THAT YOU'LL HAD THEM UP AND THE RESIDENTS WERE OUTSIDE AFTER DARK AND THEY'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREETS AND THEY WERE SO EXCITED THAT THEY HAD THIS AND NOW ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS WANT THE SAME THING.
FREEDOM PARK, THE TRAIL, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON THE LIST FOR YEARS AND YOU ALL MADE IT HAPPEN.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THINGS HAPPEN.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU.
> > THANKS [INAUDIBLE] FOR SILENT PARTNER BACK THERE. IS THAT IT CHRIS?
I THINK ONE WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION HERE, SO I'LL READ IT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THEM COME UP AND TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH.
THEN I'M NOT SURE [INAUDIBLE] HERE, RIGHT? WE HAVE MISS [INAUDIBLE].
IS MICHAEL HERE? MICHAEL [INAUDIBLE] , OKAY.
YES? NO. DO WE HAVE HOUSING URBAN DEVELOPMENT OR IS THAT JUST A READ? JUST A [NOISE] READ, OKAY.
TAKE ME OUT OF THE BOX. OKAY. OFFICE OF THE MAYOR CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM AFFECTING EVERY SEGMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND FINDING SOLUTIONS REQUIRES INPUT IN ACTION FROM EVERYONE, WHEREAS APPROXIMATELY FOUR MILLION CHILDREN REPORTED, ABUSED, AND NEGLECTED IN THIS COUNTRY EACH AND EVERY YEAR, AND WHEREAS CHILD MALTREATMENT OCCURS WHEN PEOPLE FIND THEMSELVES IN STRESSFUL SITUATIONS WITHOUT COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO COPE, AND WHEREAS THE MAJORITY OF THE CHILD ABUSE CASES STEM FROM SITUATIONS AND CONDITIONS THAT ARE PREVENTABLE IN AN ENGAGED AND SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT CAN BE REDUCED BY MAKING SURE EACH FAMILY HAS THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN IN A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT, AND WHEREAS CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT NOT ONLY DIRECTLY HARM CHILDREN, BUT ALSO INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, HEALTH PROBLEMS SUCH AS HEART DISEASE AND OBESITY, AND RISKY BEHAVIORS SUCH AS SMOKING, AND WHEREAS ALL CITIZENS SHOULD BECOME INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING FAMILIES IN RAISING THEIR CHILDREN IN A SAFE AND NURTURING ENVIRONMENT, AND WHEREAS AFFECTIVE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION PROGRAMS SUCCEED BECAUSE OF PARTNERSHIPS CREATED AMONG SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES, SCHOOLS, FAITH COMMUNITIES, CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
NOW THEREFORE, I JASON PEREZ, MAYOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON TEXAS IS ALONG WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL IS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN ANGLETON AND CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS, COMMUNITY AGENCIES, FAITH GROUPS, MEDICAL FACILITIES, AND BUSINESSES TO INCREASE THEIR PARTICIPATION IN EFFORTS TO SUPPORT FAMILIES, THEREBY PREVENTING CHILD ABUSE AND STRENGTHENING THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH WE LIVE, PROCLAIM THIS 13TH DAY OF APRIL 2021.
IS ANYBODY HERE FROM [INAUDIBLE]? OKAY, I THOUGHT I SAW THAT.
THAT'S FOR THEM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ONE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT HAS INITIATED THE SPONSORSHIP OF ACTIVITIES DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL OF EACH YEAR DESIGNED TO REINFORCE THE DEPARTMENT'S COMMITMENT TO THE CONCEPT OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF ANGLETON AFFIRMATIVELY SUPPORTS THE EFFORTS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE OF TEXAS TO ENSURE EQUAL ACCESS TO ALL AMERICANS TO RENTAL HOUSING AND HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF ANGLETON WELCOMES THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REAFFIRM ITS COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE EQUAL ACCESS TO HOUSING TO ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS WITHOUT REGARD TO RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, DISABILITY, FAMILY STATUS, NATIONAL ORIGIN, OR SOURCE OF INCOME, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF ANGLETON AFFIRMATIVELY SUPPORTS PROGRAMS THAT WILL EDUCATE THE PUBLIC CONCERNING THEIR RIGHTS TO EQUAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND TO PARTICIPATE IN EFFORTS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO ENSURE EVERY PERSON THEIR RIGHT TO FAIR HOUSING, AND WHEREAS CITY OF ANGLETON IS HONORED TO JOIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE STATE OF TEXAS AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ACROSS AMERICA IN CELEBRATING
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THE RICH DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE AND THE RIGHT OF ALL CITIZENS TO LIVE WHERE THEY CHOOSE WITHOUT FEAR OF DISCRIMINATION.NOW THEREFORE, I, JASON PEREZ, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL IS THE MONTH TO CELEBRATE AND HONOR ALL EFFORTS WHICH GUARANTEE THE RIGHT TO LIVE FREE OF DISCRIMINATORY HOUSING, PRACTICES, AND PROCLAIM THIS MONTH AS FAIR HOUSING MONTH, AND URGE ALL LOCAL OFFICIALS IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS TO JOIN ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO FURTHER FAIR HOUSING OBJECTIVES PROCLAIM THIS 13TH DAY OF APRIL 2021.
WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR FAIR HOUSING.
MOVING RIGHT ALONG INTO OUR AGENDA, CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
SIT BACK AND ENJOY THE READ.LET'S SEE FROM A CONTEXT ON [INAUDIBLE].
NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL'S SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF JANUARY 12TH, 2021, REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF JANUARY 12TH, 2021, REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF JANUARY 2026, 2021, REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF FEBRUARY 9, 2021, REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF FEBRUARY 23RD, 2021, REGULAR CALL MEETING OF MARCH 9, 2021, REGULAR CALL MEETING OF MARCH 23RD OF 2021, AND SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF MARCH 30TH, 2021.
NUMBER 4, DISCUSSION IN POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210413-004 DESIGNATING TWO REPRESENTATIVES TO THE [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY JOINT AIRPORT ZONING BOARD.
NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210413-005, SUPPORTING THE PRESENTATION OF PLANNING, ZONING, AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS RELATED AGENDA ITEMS TO COUNSEL ON A DATE CERTAIN.
NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210413-006 RATIFYING THE DISASTER DECLARATION SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON MARCH 17TH, 2020, AND CONSENTING TO ITS CONTINUATION THROUGH MAY 17TH, 2021, REAPPEARING CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS INCLUDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
NUMBER 7, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210309-007, RATIFYING THE DISASTER DECLARATION SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON FEBRUARY 15TH, 2021 AND CONSENTING TO ITS CONTINUATION THROUGH APRIL 14TH, 2021, REPEALING CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS INCLUDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
NUMBER 8, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210413-008 AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A WATER RECLAMATION GRANT.
NUMBER 9, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINATES NUMBER 20210413-009, AMENDING THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND CODE OF ORDINANCES TO UPDATE STATE LAW REFERENCE CITATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
NUMBER 10, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210413-010, AMENDING CHAPTER 17, PARKS AND RECREATION ARTICLE 1 IN GENERAL OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF ANGLETON, TEXAS ADDING SECTION 17-2 STANDARDS OF CARE TO CHAPTER 17, PARKS AND RECREATION, ARTICLE 1.
IN GENERAL OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS DEFINING MINIMUM STANDARDS OF CARE BY WHICH THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS AND ITS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WILL OPERATE ITS YOUTH RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS, PROVIDING FOR AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF ADOPTION DATE THEREAFTER PROVIDING SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
NUMBER 11, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON FISCAL STATEMENTS FOR JANUARY 2021.
NUMBER 12, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ALL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ON FEBRUARY 2021.
NUMBER 13, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ACCOUNTS PAYABLE REPORTS FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY 2021.
DISCUSSION AT NUMBER 14, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY 2021. HALFWAY THERE FOLKS.
NUMBER 15, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORTS FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2020 AND DECEMBER 31ST, 2020.
NUMBER 16, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON AGREEMENT WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY TO LEASE THE [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS FOR THE FREEDOM FIREWORKS, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENT.
NUMBER 17, DISCUSSION IN POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH ANGLETON ISD FOR SHARING THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNICATIONS TRANSMISSION TOWER.
NUMBER 18, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON LAKESIDE PARK SITE PLAN.
NUMBER 19, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO G OF C, THREE CONSTRUCTORS FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] WWTP HEAD WORKS IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $563,000 AND AUTHORIZE A CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENT.
NUMBER 20, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO BL TECHNOLOGY,
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INC. FOR THE S-C-A-D-A, ALSO KNOWN AS SCADA, PHASE 2 IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $178,987 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THIS DOCUMENT.NUMBER 21, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ASSIGNMENT AND SALE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ANGLETON GREEN TRAILS, LLC AND TEXAS PID FINANCING 1, LLC, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENT.
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
NUMBER 23, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL RE-PLOT OF [INAUDIBLE] RESERVE PHASE 1.
NUMBER 24, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON WIND ROSE GREEN SECTION 3, PRELIMINARY PLAN.
THE LAST ONE, NUMBER 25, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PLANNING SERVICE CONTRACT WITH GUNDA CORPORATION COUNCIL. NOW THEN MY MOUTH IS DRY.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT.
AGENDA ITEM 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23, AND 24, AND I MOVED TO APPROVE ALL REMAINING ITEMS. SECOND IS A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL REMAINING ITEMS AND THEN TO DRAW ALL THOSE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM REIN, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN THOMPSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> WOULD YOU READ THROUGH THOSE THAT HAVE BEING PULLED, PLEASE?
>> YES, SIR. NUMBER 4, NUMBER 5, NUMBER 8, NUMBER 9, NUMBER 10, NUMBER 18, NUMBER 19, 20, 22, 23, AND 24.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO ABSORB GUYS, I GIVE YOU A SECOND IF YOU WANT TO.
>> IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THE COUNCIL WISHES TO PULL, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE.
>> I ASK YOU TO AMEND YOUR MOTION AND ADD ITEM 25 TO THAT BEING PULLED.
>> I AMEND MY MOTION TO ADD NUMBER 25.
PULL FROM CONSENT AND APPROVE THE REMAINING.
>> OKAY. I HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY SIGN.
LET'S MOVE ON RIGHT [OVERLAPPING] DOWN THE LIST.
NUMBER 4, DISCUSSION OF RESOLUTION ON NUMBER 20210413-004,
[4. Discussion and possible on Resolution No. 20210413-004 designating two (2) representatives to the Brazoria County Joint Airport Zoning Board.]
DESIGNATING TWO REPRESENTATIVES TO THE MISSOURI COUNTY JOINT AIRPORT ZONING BOARD.>> I SAW THE EMAIL HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS THE OTHER DAY.
I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THE ONE WHERE YOU ALL TOOK ACTION ON WHO IT WAS GOING TO BE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD IS.
PHIL, JUST FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY.
WHAT I HAVE HERE IS JASON PEREZ AS MAYOR, AND THEN LINDSAY.
I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO LAST NAME, LINDSAY, SORRY. [LAUGHTER] KOSKINIEMI.
>> USUALLY WE HAVE A STAFF AND A COUNCIL MEMBER.
BUT CAN YOU GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ON WHAT THIS BOARD IS TRYING TO DO?
>> THEY LOOK AT ALL THE ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON ON THE AIRPORT PROPERTY AS FAR AS ZONING GOES.
I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP AND MARKET THE AIRPORT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS HASN'T BEEN FILLED FOR A WHILE.
>> WE DUG BACK TO THE HISTORY.
WE MADE THE DECISION ON THE STAFF PART.
WE JUST BY DEFAULT NOMINATED THE MAYOR, SO IF THERE'S A BETTER PERSON IF YOU ALL WANT TO CHOOSE.
>> BECAUSE I LOOKED AT THIS TOO. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THEY'VE DONE THIS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHEN IS LAST ON THIS BOARD MET?
>> I'M NOT EVEN SURE. THEY REACHED OUT TO US AND SAID, "HEY, CAN YOU SUBMIT NOMINATIONS?" THEY WERE ACTUALLY JUST TWO RESIDENTS." WE SAID, FIRST OF ALL, NOT SURE THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE AND THOSE THINGS.
WE SAID WE WANT CITY REPRESENTATION ON THAT BOARD.
>> IT SOUNDS GOOD. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, APPOINTING JASON PEREZ MAYOR AND LINDSAY KOSKINIEMI AS THE STAFF MEMBER TO THE MISSOURI COUNTY JOINT AIRPORT ZONING BOARD.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MAYOR PRO TEM REICH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.
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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY SIGN.
THAT MOTION CARRIES. MOVING ON.
NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210413-005,
[5. Discussion and possible action on Resolution No. 20210413-005 supporting the presentation of planning, zoning, and other development related agenda items to council on a date certain.]
SUPPORTING THE PRESENTATION OF PLANNING, ZONING, AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT RELATED AGENDA ITEMS TO THE COUNCIL ON A CERTAIN DATE.>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WHAT YOU HAVE IS THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT WOULD SUPPORT HEARING THE PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS AT THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING IN THE MONTH.
PLANNING AND ZONING MEETS NOON ON THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, AND IT DOESN'T ALLOW US A LOT OF TURNAROUND TIME TO PUT OUT A QUALITY PRODUCT WITH ALL THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION NECESSARY FROM PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING TO THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING OF THE MONTH, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE SECOND TUESDAY.
WE FEEL THAT MOVING IT WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE TIME TO REVIEW THINGS, AND WOULD ALSO FREE UP THE AGENDA BECAUSE THEY DO GET PRETTY CONGESTED.
>> WE BROUGHT THIS UP, IT WAS ON THE LAST P&Z AGENDA FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
>> I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF THE P&Z COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR QUESTION WAS, WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG TO TURN THAT AROUND? JUST THE MEETINGS ON THURSDAYS, RIGHT?
>> THE AGENDA IS DUE TO YOU ON FRIDAY OR THURSDAY TOO?
>> IT'S BEEN FOLLOWING THE TUESDAY BEFORE P&Z MEETS.
WE'RE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION UNTIL FRIDAY WHEN THE AGENDA SHOULD BE SENT DOWN ON FRIDAY.
>> NOW, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THE PROCESS BY WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT, FROM P&Z TO COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE VERY MUCH THE SAME.
>> ARE YOU IN TALKS OF CHANGING THE PROCESS STILL TOO?
>> WHEN DEVELOPER SAYS I WANT TO MEET WITH P&Z, THE PROCESS BY WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO P&Z, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BRING? ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A DRAWING OF THAT TIME, WHEN DO THEY GET TO TALK TO COUNCIL? BASICALLY TRYING NOT TO WASTE ENGINEERING TIME, DEVELOPER TIME, AND ALL THE WAY TO COUNSEL COMING BACK AND THEN IT GOING ALL THE WAY KICKING BACK.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IS THAT PROCESS BEING REDEFINED AS WELL.
>> WE'RE GOING TO TALK THROUGH THAT IN A SECOND.
>> I THINK JOHN, WHAT THIS DOES IS HELPS THEM STRETCH AT LITTLE BIT OF TIME PERIOD FOR COUNCIL PREPARATION TOO, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW IT'S NOT SECRET, MOST OF THE THINGS ARE HOT TOPICS AND WE'RE GETTING IT ON FRIDAY, TRY TO MAKE A DECISION ON TUESDAY.
THIS IS GIVING US, BECAUSE WE CAN GO WATCH THE P&Z.
WE CAN HEAR THE HOT TOPIC, THAT GIVES US TIME FOR US TO DO OUR Q&A, OUR FACT FINDING TO GET READY FOR COUNCIL MEETING.
I CAN SEE WHERE NOW. DOES IT STRETCH THE DEVELOPER, OR WHATEVER IS GOING ON? YEAH, IT'S GOING TO ADD A COUPLE OF WEEKS, MAKE NOT LONGER THAN THE TIMELINE THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
>> BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, LINDSAY, BUT WE'VE NEVER REALLY CODIFIED THIS BEFORE.
>> WE'VE ALWAYS OPERATED ON THIS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.
NOW, IT PUTS IT IN STONE FOR A BETTER WORD AND ALLOWS US TO MAKE IT PART OF OUR DEFINED PROCESS VERSUS.
>> USUALLY WE'LL JUST PULL IT FROM THE AGENDA IF IT'S NOT READY.
>> I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THIS.
ALL THE AGENDAS OPPOSED TO FRIDAY EVENING, WE SOMETIMES DON'T GET IT.
WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO IN LIFE BESIDES JUST STARE AT THE COMPUTER HOPING THAT THE AGENDA WILL SHOW UP, AND THEN THAT'S THE WEEKEND.
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TO ASK ABOUT ITEMS ON A WEEKEND, WHO DO YOU CALL TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT? NEXT THING YOU CAN DO IS FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING IS THE EARLIEST.
YOU CAN TALK TO ANYBODY IN PREPARATION FOR A TUESDAY NIGHT MEETING.
[LAUGHTER] I DON'T THINK YOU'D GET THAT.
DOES THIS GIVE US ON THE COUNCIL ADEQUATE TIME TO CONSIDER THINGS?
>> DOES IT ACTUALLY GIVE COUNCIL MORE TIME? BECAUSE I GUESS WHY I SAY THAT IS IT GIVES THE STAFF MORE TIME TO PREPARE IT FOR THE COUNCIL AGENDA, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO GET TO COUNSEL EARLIER BECAUSE IF THAT GOES, TO WHAT COUNCILMAN BOOTH WAS SAYING IS, WE STILL DON'T SEE SOMETHING'S UNTIL IT HITS THE AGENDA.
>> THAT'S TRUE TOO. BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE NOW TO OPEN UP FROM DISCUSSION TO YOU.
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>> WELL, MY SUGGESTION TO THAT WOULD BE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING HOT TOPICS EARLIER, IS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER AND HE CAN DIRECT STAFF AS NEEDED TO PROVIDE UPDATES OR WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AT LEAST IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE FRONT-LOAD INFORMATION ON WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT COULD BE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.
>> I USUALLY WATCH THE P&Z MEETINGS.
THAT'S WHAT GIVES ME WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE.
BUT SOMETIMES THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IN P&Z DON'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE OVER TO COUNSEL IMMEDIATELY.
IT MIGHT BE THAT FACT FINDING OR SOMETHING THAT STARTS AND THEN COMES BACK A MONTH LATER.
BUT I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BOOTH, THIS DOES HELP US A LITTLE BIT.
>> JUST KNOW A CALENDARS, I THINK.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE MONTH IS A [INAUDIBLE].
OBVIOUSLY HAVING THAT FIFTH WEEK GIVES STAFF MORE TIME TO COMPLETE THE TASK AND [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S THE REALITY.
IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO SCHEDULE IT EITHER WAY.
>> THAT'S A BIGGIE THERE, IT PUTS A BIG BURDEN ON SOMEBODY TO POST ON THE AGENDA AND STUFF THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF DAYS PRIOR TO THAT.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DISCOVERING, IS WE WEREN'T GETTING THE ITEMS UNTIL THURSDAY AFTERNOON.
WEDNESDAY EVEN IS DIFFICULT TO WORK ON THE AGENDA ITEMS BECAUSE WE ARE IN DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS ALL DAY LONG.
THOSE ITEMS WEREN'T GETTING COMPLETED UNTIL THURSDAY AFTERNOON, FRIDAY MORNING.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GET THE AGENDA OUT BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON.
WE GOT TO HAVE MORE TIME TO REVIEW IT, AND WE'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO ON A REGULAR BASIS PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210413-005, SUPPORTING THE PRESENTATION OF PLANNING, ZONING, AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT RELATED AGENDA ITEMS TO COUNSEL ON A DATE CERTAIN.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM REIN, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> MY VOTE SHOULD BE CONTINGENT ON WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE 36 ITEMS OR NOT ON THE AGENDA.
>> JOHN, YOU AND I CAN REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M WAITING FOR 50. WE'RE GOING TO HIT 50 ONE DAY [LAUGHTER].
>> YOU AND I CAN REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY WHERE WE WOULD BE OUT OF HERE BY 6:45 BY NOW.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOW IT'S MIDNIGHT.
HOPEFULLY NOT TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL SEE.
ANYTHING ELSE? HEARING NOTHING, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
MOVING ON, NUMBER 8, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER
[8. Discussion and possible action on Resolution No. 20210413-008 authorizing the submission of a water reclamation grant.]
20210413-008 AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A WATER RECLAMATION GRANT.>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
YOU REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS AGO BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD A COLD SPELL? WE ALL REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED FROM A TO Z, BUT IN PARTICULAR WE RECOGNIZED A WATER ISSUE.
BEING PART OF THE DREAMER TEAM, I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, THEIR BUREAU OF RECLAMATION, TO APPLY FOR ONE OF THEIR APPLIED SCIENCE GRANTS FOR 2021.
THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT IS TO BUILD A RAINWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT WILL ALLEVIATE THE DEMANDS ON CITY WATER.
IT'LL BE A FULL USE, YEAR-ROUND OPERATION AND THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE WATER FOLLOWING A NATURAL DISASTER.
THE SITE THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT AND THINK IT'S THE BEST CHOICE WILL BE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FACILITY, AND THE TANK, WHICH I'LL DESCRIBE IN A MOMENT, WOULD BE PLACED ON THE NORTH SIDE SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST, SO TO THE BACK SIDE.
THE DOWN SPOUT PIPING CONNECTIONS, ALL OF THAT WILL BE PLACED AROUND THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THE FRONT WHEN YOU PULL UP, ALL THE PIPING WILL BE AROUND THE TOP OF THE BUILDING THERE.
CURRENTLY, THE FACILITY WATER USAGE IS ABOUT 144,000 GALLONS PER YEAR AND THAT'S WITH 27 PEOPLE WORKING THERE ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO THE TANK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH, TALKED TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT VENDORS, AND WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IS A PRODUCT THAT'S BPA FREE.
IT HAS A 20 YEAR WARRANTY ON THE TANK AND LINER, A 65 YEAR LIFESPAN, AND A 65,000 GALLON TANK.
WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THAT WE HAVE AN ANNUAL RAINFALL HERE OF 50 INCHES AND
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SAY THE POTENTIAL COLLECTION OF ONE INCH OF RAIN IS 5,825 GALLONS, THE POTENTIAL COLLECTION IS OVER 300,000 GALLONS OF WATER.WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS THROUGH THIS GRANT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUND POTABLE WATER SO THAT WE CAN COMPLETELY DISCONNECT FROM THE CITY WATER SERVICE AND PROVIDE A WATER SOURCE RIGHT THERE.
THEN IN THE EVENT OF A NATURAL DISASTER, THE COMMUNITY CAN COME AND BRING THEIR FIVE-GALLON JUGS OR WHATEVER THEY HAVE, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO FILL THOSE UP AND TAKE THEM HOME WITH FRESH RAINWATER AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE TREATED WITH UV.
THE APPROXIMATE COST ON THIS PROJECT, THE TOTAL COST, IS ABOUT $125,000.
IT IS A 50 PERCENT MATCH AND WE HAVE SOME IDEAS WHERE THAT OTHER 50 PERCENT CAN COME FROM OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET.
I DON'T KNOW IF CHRIS WANTS TO MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE'RE TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
IT'LL BE IN A VERY VISIBLE PLACE AND LET THE COMMUNITY GET USED TO THE IDEA OF RECLAIMED RAINWATER, AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL JUST BE OUR FIRST SIGHT.
>> WE'RE TAKING THE POLICE STATION OFF THE GRID?
>> YES, SIR. THAT GRID ANYWAY.
>> THEY STILL WILL BE CONNECTED, BUT THEIR PRIMARY WATER USE WOULD COME OUT OF THAT.
THE QUESTION IS, YOU JUST SAID IT'S 50 PERCENT MATCH, BUT IN THE BACKUP IT SAYS THIS IS 100 PERCENT GRANT FUNDING.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT TONIGHT.
>> OKAY. THAT 50 PERCENT YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE PULLING UP FROM YET? AMERICAN RECOVERIES ACT, IS THAT WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS?
WE SUBMIT THE GRANT APRIL 14TH, I THINK, AND WE'D FIND OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE GET THAT INITIAL FUNDING AND SEE WHETHER WE GOT THE GRANT OR NOT, SO THAT'S JUST OFFERING A POTENTIAL SOLUTION.
BENEFITS IS IN THE CONTINGENCY OPERATION MODE.
IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE PRONE TO DROUGHT HERE AND WE'RE DOING OUR BEST, WHETHER IT'S SOLAR LIGHTS OR CONSERVING WATER AND BENEFITING OUR COMMUNITY.
>> I'M ASKING FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO SUBMIT THE GRANT.
>> THAT'S 75,000 WE'RE PULLING ON OUR SIDE.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE GRANT.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE] SECONDED BY [INAUDIBLE]. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR THE BACKUP FOR THE CITY AND THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY NEED FOR DISASTER MITIGATION.
>> I LOVE THE IDEA BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING THERE ABOUT IT'S A BEGINNING, SO IT WOULD BE NEAT TO SEE HOW FAR WE COULD TAKE IT IN DROUGHTS, BUT WE ALSO DO HAVE HURRICANES.
IF YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER AND IT'S HOT AS IT CAN BE, YOU CAN DRINK OR IF YOU WANT TO FRESHEN UP, SOMETIMES IT'S NICE TO GO TO BED NOT STINKING SWEATY, YOU CAN AVOID IT.
>> OKAY, I'VE BEEN ASKED BEFORE I THOUGHT THERE WAS A RULE ON WATER.
>> YEAH, COLLECTING RAINWATER.
>> WELL, I CAN ONLY ANSWER, IS IT POSSIBLE? THE ANSWER IS YES. IS IT LEGAL? I'LL HAVE TO REFER TO SOMEONE ELSE.
>> WELL, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING TECQ RULES AND SOME OTHER STUFF, SO IT'S NOT DONE.
LET'S GET THE GRANT FIRST AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE MAKE IT HAPPEN AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
>> IF WE GET A LOT OF RAIN IN ONE PERIOD AND WE'RE FILLING UP THE TANK.
WE NEED TAKE A LOOK AT THAT SO WE'RE NOT JUST DUMPING IT OUT.
>> OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I'LL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGH.
>> MOVING ON TO NUMBER 9, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210413-009.
[9. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210413-009 amending the City of Angleton Code of Ordinances to update state law reference citations that have been changed by the Texas Legislature.]
I'M AMENDING THE CITY OF ANGLETON CODE OF ORDINANCES TO UPDATE STATE LAW REFERENCES, CITATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE. WHO HAS THAT ONE?[00:45:05]
>> I THINK FRANCIS HAS THAT ONE.
SO THIS IS JUST A STANDARD ORDINANCE WITH MUNICODE WHO ADMINISTERS OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES AND IT HAS NEVER BEEN UPDATED, AND THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF LAW CHANGE, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
>> ONE OF THE REASON I PULLED THIS, AND I WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION ON THIS, WAS BECAUSE I THOUGHT AND THAT WHENEVER OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES IS OUT OF DATE, WE HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND PASS A NEW ORDINANCE ON INDIVIDUALLY TO GET OURSELVES UP TO STATE REQUIREMENTS.
>> BUT I THINK IT'S ONE ORDINATES CHANGING ALL OF THOSE SPOT, ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE WERE ALL OUTSIDE, RIGHT?
>> YES. THEY WENT THROUGH OUR WHOLE CODE AND PICKED OUT EVERYONE THAT WAS OUTDATED.
>> BECAUSE IN THE PAST, WE ALSO DID CHARTER REVIEW AND THE CHARTER COMMITTEE WOULD ACTUALLY PUT THAT THROUGH AS WELL.
>> THAT CHARTER HAS TO BE SENT FOR ELECTION.
>> THE ANSWER IS YOU ARE PARTIALLY RIGHT.
SO THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE SOME PROVISIONS IN YOUR CODE THAT MAY NOT CONFORM TO LEGISLATIVE CHANGE.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY CHANGE THE STATE CODE IS NUMBERS AND SECTIONS AND SUBDIVISIONS CHANGE, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS CHANGING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER HAPPENED BEFORE BY MUNICODE.
YOU WOULD LITERALLY LOOK IN YOUR CODE AND BE TAKEN TO A PLACE THAT NO LONGER IS THERE.
THERE WILL STILL BE OTHER THINGS IN YOUR CODE THAT MAY BE OUTDATED BECAUSE THE IMPORT OF THE LAW CHANGE, BUT THIS SHOULD ADDRESS ANY RENAMING OF SECTIONS, SOMETIMES THEY MOVE FROM ONE CODE TO ANOTHER CODE, SO THAT IF SOMEBODY'S ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE STATE LAW IS, THEY SHOULD GET THERE.
BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, THIS IS NOT GOING TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT MAY BE IN YOUR CODE THAT IS OUTDATED IN TERMS OF THE CONTENT OF THE LAW CHANGING.
>> THAT COMES TO THE CHARTER REVIEW.
>> WELL, THE CHARTER REVIEWS FOR THE CHARTER ONLY, CHANGES IN THE LAW THAT IMPACTS YOUR CODE.
I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD PIECEMEAL, BUT AS THE LAW CHANGES, WE NOTIFY, IT'S A MUTUAL THING THAT WE SAY, OKAY, THIS PART HAS BEEN CHANGED, WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.
AGAIN, THIS YEAR, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> YEAH, A LOT BETTER, BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ON WHY CERTAIN THINGS WENT THROUGH A CHARTER, BUT THE ORDINANCES ARE THE ORDINANCES WHEREAS THE CHARTERS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
BUT I DO THINK THERE MIGHT BE PLACES WHERE THEY WILL CONFLICT AND WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND UPDATE THAT.
>> WELL, WHAT'S IN THIS ORDINANCE WILL NOT CONFLICT BECAUSE WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY GONE, SOME PROVISION THAT NO LONGER EXISTS, IT WILL BE OUT OF YOUR CODE, YOU WILL NO LONGER BE IN YOUR ORDINANCES.
BUT WHAT WILL BE IN YOUR ORDINANCES ARE POSSIBLE PROVISIONS THAT ARE NO LONGER APPLICABLE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE OF CONTENT, NOT THE NUMBERING, IN NEW STATE LAW.
>> JOHN, YOU'RE RIGHT THAT WHEN THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THE CODE OF ORDINANCES DOES NOT REFLECT WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS, WE HAVE GONE BACK AND CHANGE THOSE, AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL.
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021 0413-009 AMENDING THE CITY OF ANGLETON CODE OF ORDINANCES TO UPDATE STATE LAW REFERENCE CITATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
THAT MOTION CARRIES. MOVING ALONG.
NUMBER 10, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER
[10. Discussion and possible action on an Ordinance No. 20210413-010 amending Chapter 17 – Parks and Recreation, Article 1. – In General of the Code of Ordinances of Angleton, Texas; adding “Section 17-2. – Standards of Care” to Chapter 17 – Parks and Recreation, Article 1. – In General of the code of Ordinances of the City of Angleton, Texas; defining minimum standards of care by which the City of Angleton, Texas, and its Parks and Recreation Department will operate its youth recreational programs; providing for an annual review and adoption date thereafter; providing severability; providing for repeal; and providing an effective date.]
2021 0413-010, AMENDING CHAPTER 17, PARKS AND RECREATION ARTICLE 1 IN GENERAL OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF ANGLETON, TEXAS ADDING SECTION 17-2,[00:50:01]
STANDARDS OF CARE TO CHAPTER 17, PARKS AND RECREATION ARTICLE 1.IN GENERAL, OTHER CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF A ANGLETON, TEXAS, TO FINDING MINIMUM STANDARDS OF CARE BY WHICH THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS AND ITS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WILL OPERATE ITS YOUTH RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS, PROVIDING FOR AN ANNUAL REVIEW AND ADOPTION DATE THEREAFTER, PROVIDING SEPARABILITY, PROVIDING FULL REPEAL, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MS. MEGHAN.
YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THE ORDINANCE THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU ALL TONIGHT FOR CONSENT IS REGARDING THE TEXAS HUMAN RESOURCES CODE, WHICH PROVIDES THAT NO PERSON MAY OPERATE A CHILDCARE FACILITY OR CHILD PLACING AGENCY WITHOUT A LICENSE ISSUED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES.
HOWEVER, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION, AND THAT EXCEPTION FROM LICENSURE IS FOR RECREATION PROGRAM OPERATED BY A MUNICIPALITY.
SO WITH THAT, WE ARE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP A STANDARDS OF CARE AND THAT BEING INCLUDED IN OUR ORDINANCE.
AS YOUR AGENDA SUMMARY ALSO DISCUSSES, THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT STANDARDS OF CARE ORDINATES, WHICH WE HAVE DONE.
WE'VE WORKED WITH RENTAL OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS PRESENT, AND WE TOOK THIS TO PARKS BOARD FOR A PUBLIC HEARING SO WE HAVE ALSO MET THAT REQUIREMENT OF THE ORDINANCE AS WELL AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED YESTERDAY EVENING.
>> THAT WAS MY MAJOR QUESTION THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THIS ONE.
>> THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW LAW IS CHANGED.
WE'RE CATCHING THINGS AS LAW CHANGES AND WE ADVISE YOU WE NEED TO DO THIS NOW SINCE IT'S AN ADDITIONAL OBLIGATION.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ACTION ON ORDINANCE 2021 0413-010, AMENDING CHAPTER 17 OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION ARTICLE 1 [INAUDIBLE].
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
I WAS LOOKING THAT AWAY AND I WAS LOOKING THIS WAY.
THAT MOTION IS SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
JUMPING NOW TO NUMBER 18, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE LAKESIDE PARK SITE PLAN.
[18. Discussion and possible action on the Lakeside Park site plan.]
MS. MEGHAN, IS THAT YOU?>> IT IS. I AM HAPPY TO BRING THE SITE PLAN TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD.
TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE TIMELINE, WE TOOK THIS SITE PLAN AND PLANS THAT YOU SEE, WHICH IS 90 PERCENT SET.
WE DID THAT ONLY BECAUSE IF THERE WERE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS OR CHANGES, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PROVIDE A SIGNED SEALED COPY AND HAVE TO GO BACK TO REVISE THAT.
SO THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE IN HERE, THE CHANGES THAT ARE NOT IN THERE THAT WILL BE LISTED IN OUR BID PACKAGE, ARE A KAYAK LAUNCH THAT WILL BE OFF OF THE LOADING DECK THAT YOU SEE UNDER THE CAVALIER [INAUDIBLE] STRUCTURE UNDERNEATH THE MAIN BUILDING THERE, AND THEN ALSO WE WILL BE ADDING A BIT ALTERNATE FOR REMOVING GRAVEL FROM COUNTY ROAD 44.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SPECIFIED OUR PARK STAFF COULD DO.
HOWEVER, IF BIDS COME IN LOWER AND WE CAN HAVE A CONTRACTOR DO THAT, WE WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
OUTSIDE OF THOSE TWO ITEMS, THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE BID PACKET AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS THAT WE HOPE IF WE GET APPROVAL TONIGHT, WE WILL BE SENDING OUT AN ADVERTISEMENT ON THURSDAY.
WE'LL HAVE THAT PACKAGE FROM THEM WITH THE HOPE THAT IT WILL BE ADVERTISED NEXT TUESDAY IN THE PAPER, AND THE FOLLOWING SCHEDULE WILL BE ADVERTISING FOR ABOUT A MONTH FOLLOWED BY DEADLINE AND EVALUATION BECAUSE IT WILL BE A COMPETITIVE SEALED PACKAGE.
WE'LL EVALUATE THAT AND WE WILL BRING A RECOMMENDATION FOR A CONTRACT WITH A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY HOPEFULLY THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING IN MAY.
ONE THING I HADN'T MENTIONED IS THAT THIS SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED APRIL 1ST BY P&Z AND IT WAS ALSO APPROVED BY ABLC AND THE PARKS BOARD LAST EVENING.
>> THE ONE QUESTION I NEVER GOT BECAUSE I HAD TO LEAVE YESTERDAY WAS, IS THERE GOING TO BE ACCESSED ON THE COUNTY ROAD 44 SIDE, PEDESTRIAN OR AUTO?
>> THAT WILL ONLY BE A VEHICULAR ACCESS FOR ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.
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THAT'S ALMOST LIKE THE EMERGENCY DATA ACCESSES THAT YOU SEE AT SOME OF OUR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, BUT THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE AN ACCESS POINT FOR THIS PARK NOW.AS FAR AS PEDESTRIAN GOES ALSO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS FOR AN CONNECTIVITY.
OUR LOOP TRAIL DOES NOT GO OUT TOWARDS THAT AREA.
THE PATH THAT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TO GET TO THE PUBS WILL BE ADJACENT TO OUR WALKING PATH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE WALKING PATHS GOING OUT TO COUNTY ROAD 44.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU [INAUDIBLE] IN THE FENCE, JOHN.
>> NOW, THE ONLY REASON I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT WAS IF WE DO HAVE A LARGE DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT ROAD, ACCESS TO THE PARK THAT THEY'RE PAYING INTO BASICALLY, NO ACCESSIBILITY FROM THAT POINT THAT HAVE TO GO UP.
>> MAYBE IF THERE WAS A CROSS INTERSECTION THERE.
>> MAYBE THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE MAYBE POTENTIAL FUTURE EXPANSION OF COUNTY ROAD 44?
>> IT'S MY MOVE WE ADOPT THE LAKESIDE PARK SITE PLAN AS PRESENTED.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES.
NUMBER 19, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO C3 CONSTRUCTORS FOR
[19. Discussion and possible action to award a contract to C3 Constructors for the Oyster Creek WWTP Headworks Improvements project in the amount of $563,000.00 and authorize the City Manager to execute the document.]
THE OYSTER CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT HEADWORKS IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $563,000 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENT. MR. JEFF?WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE, THE BAR SCREEN.
FREESE AND NICHOLS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT.
IT DID COME WAY UNDER OUR BUDGET.
WE HAVE CHECKED THE REFERENCE, EVERYTHING.
FREESE AND NICHOLS RECOMMEND AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO THEM.
>> THAT'S WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION, ONE, I COULDN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE JUST ADOPT AND CONSENT AN AGENDA OF $563,000 EXPENDITURE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I SAW THERE WAS HALF OF THE BUDGET AMOUNT I WAS LIKE, "OKAY, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?"
>> WELL, ENGINEER'S FEES IS ON TOP OF THIS AND STUFF, SO THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL BUDGET AMOUNT.
WE DID CUT BACK ON SOME PRODUCT OUT THERE.
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SIPPER?
>> MR. BRUCE, YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
>> [LAUGHTER] SORRY, MR. BRUCE. I WASN'T PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT THERE.
I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK OVER THAT WAY. COUNCILMAN BOOTH DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE WASTEWATER?
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT OF C3 IN THE AMOUNT OF $563,000 FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WORK.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AIN'T NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, "AYE."
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.
[20. Discussion and possible action to award a contract to BL Technology, Inc. for the SCADA Phase II Improvements project in the amount of $178,987.00 and authorize the City Manager to execute the document.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO BL TECHNOLOGY, INC. FOR THE SCADA PHASE 2 IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $178,987 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENT.I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A TAG TEAM, RIGHT? JOHN AND JEFF.
>> ON MARCH 16TH, THE CITY OPENED BIDS FOR COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSALS AND WE SEE SEVEN OF THEM.
WE WENT BACK, THERE WAS ALSO A CRITERIA ESTABLISHED ON THE SCORING CRITERIA ON DIFFERENT THINGS SUCH AS DISTANCE FROM THE CITY, ABILITY TO PROVIDE RESOURCES FOR PREVIOUS PRODUCTS OF A SIMILAR NATURE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, BLTI WAS NOT ONLY THE LOW BIDDER, BUT THEY ALSO SCORED THE HIGHEST ON THE CRITERIA THAT WAS SET FORWARD.
BLTI, ACTUALLY PERFORMED THE WATER PORTION AND ESTABLISHED YOUR CURRENT SCADA SYSTEM,
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HAS WORKED WELL WITH JASON PEREZ.JASON'S GOT A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, JEFF'S GOT A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
THIS IS PHASE 2, THIS IS THE SAME CONTRACTOR, THIS WILL BE THE SAME BUILD, SAME EVERYTHING.
FOR THOSE REASONS, HDR RECOMMENDS BLTI TO BE AWARDED THE PROJECT FOR $178,987.
>> JOHN, JUST HIT THE HIGH POINTS, JUST HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT PHASE 2, JUST REFRESH OUR MEMORY.
>> YEAH. PHASE 1 WAS ACTUALLY ALL YOUR HIGH LEVEL WATER FACILITIES, YOUR WATER TANKS, YOUR TREATMENT PLANS, YOUR WELLS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
PHASE 2 IS MORE OF, YOU'RE LOOKING AT INTO YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, LOOKING INTO SOME OF YOUR MAJOR REGIONAL LIST STATIONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, WE'RE NOW GOING BACK AND HITTING YOUR MAJOR FACILITIES FOR YOUR SANITARY SEWERS SO THAT YOU CAN MONITOR, CONTROL ALL THOSE FACILITIES.
>> THIS IS REALLY DESIGN AND STUDY, RIGHT? THIS IS ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE IN THERE?
>> WHEN WE AWARD THIS, WE'LL EXECUTE THE CONTRACT, THEY'LL BEGIN BUILDING THE BOXES, THE CONTROL PANELS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE REPLACING, BRING AN UPGRADE, BRING FROM OPTIMAL 22, WHICH IS AN OBSOLETE PROGRAM THAT YOU CURRENTLY ARE RUNNING YOUR SANITARY, TO BRING IT TO VT SCADA, IT'S WHAT WE'VE CHANGED YOUR WATER TO BRING THEM BACK ON THE SAME SYSTEMS, AND EXCHANGE YOUR HARDWARE TO BLACKWELL HARDWARE.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN ALL ROUND BETTER SYSTEM, BETTER DATA COLLECTION, BETTER EVERYTHING.
>> JASON CAN EXPLAIN MORE TO YOU.
HE'S BEEN WORKING ON OUR OLD SYSTEM ALL DAY.
>> YEAH, I SPENT MOST OF THE DAY TRYING TO GIVE THE OLD SYSTEM BACKUP.
EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE IT WILL LOSE ITS PROGRAMMING AND I HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND REPROGRAM IT.
WE HAD POWER SURGES THIS WEEKEND, SO CURRENTLY, THE CURRENT SCADA SYSTEM IS DOWN AND IT IS ANTIQUATED HARDWARE THAT YOU HAVE TO BUY USED IF YOU GET REPLACEMENT PARTS.
IT'S DEFINITELY WELL RESEARCHED.
I DID A LOT OF CHECKING OUT DIFFERENT SCADA SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS THE FIRST TIME AROUND WHEN WE DID OUR WATER PLANTS AND SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
BLTI JUMPED RIGHT IN AND DEVELOPED THAT SYSTEM FOR US AND THEY GAVE US A GREAT BID THIS TIME, SO I'M EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH THEM AGAIN.
>> RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF OVERTIME HOURS DOWN AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BECAUSE IT'S RUNNING MOSTLY ON A MANUAL SYSTEM.
>> I SAW YOUR EMAIL ABOUT SOME OTHER DEFICIENCIES OUT THERE AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU SAW AS A DEFICIENCY.
HOW MUCH CLOSER DOES IT GET US?
>> WELL, IT KEEPS THE FOLKS FROM HANGING OUT DOWN THERE AT NIGHT IN A SUBSTANDARD ENVIRONMENT, SO IT'S QUALITY OF PLACE, QUALITY OF HEALTH, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
>> THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE TO BE DONE OVER THAT, CORRECT?
>> YES. THAT'S A GOOD SUBJECT FOR ANOTHER TIME.
>> I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS SCADA SYSTEM AND SEE IT IN ACTION, WHAT YOU HAVE A CAPABILITY OF DOING, IT IS PRETTY NEAT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CHANGE OUT LIKE YOUR IPHONE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.
IT'S SOME MAJOR EQUIPMENT THAT IS VERY WELL NEEDED AND VERY APPRECIATED BY ALL THE OPERATORS TOO.
IT'S NOT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT ON A NEW TOWER IS THE SCADA SYSTEM INCLUDED IN THAT PROJECT?
>> YES, THERE'LL BE MOVING THE HARDWARE FROM THE OLD TOWER TO THE NEW TOWER.
>> IT ALSO CAUGHT MY ATTENTION AND I THINK I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, BUDGETED AMOUNT INTO TEXT HERE.
>> YEAH, THAT WAS MY FAULT. I DIDN'T GET [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHERE ARE THE FUNDS COMING FROM? THE SAVINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE?
>> THE FUNDS COME OUT, I THINK THROUGH THE BONDS IN THE BUDGET.
>> IT'S NOT A PART OF THE PREVIOUS ITEM WE JUST APPROVED, TAKING FUNDS FROM THAT OR ANYTHING? THEY'RE BOTH BUDGETED?
>> COUNCIL WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE?
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT TO BL TECHNOLOGY FOR THE SCADA PHASE 2 IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT
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IN THE AMOUNT OF $178,987 AND AUTHORIZE THE SCENE MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENT.>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, "AYE."
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES.
>> NUMBER 22, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON
[22. Discussion and possible action on the Gifford Meadows Development Agreement.]
KUBRICK METALS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. MR. WALTER.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS THE COUNCIL.
THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR DIFFERENT METALS.
STAFF HAS STARTED TO DO THESE WITH ALL OF OUR SUBDIVISION PROJECTS TO FORMALIZE THE CAR FEES AND THE PARK FEES.
IN THIS CASE, THERE'S ALSO AN ITEM IN THERE ABOUT PERIMETER FENCING FOR THE SUBDIVISION WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, IF IT'S IN THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES AS I HAVE YET TO BE ABLE TO FIND IT, TO HAVE SOME UNIFORMITY ON THE PERIMETER OF THE SUBDIVISION, THAT'S PART OF THIS AGREEMENT AS WELL.
YOU HAVE THE, I BELIEVE, AN EXECUTED COPY BY THE DEVELOPER IN YOUR BACKUP, OR SHOULD HAVE AN EXECUTED.
NO, NOT YET? [NOISE] WELL, WHETHER IT IS OR ISN'T, YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN YOUR BACKUP.
THE DEVELOPER DEFINITELY WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT AND IT HAS BEEN MOVING FORWARD QUITE RAPIDLY AT THIS POINT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
>> I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION WAS ON THIS ONE.
ALL THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME ARE IN THIS CONTRACT AND YOU'VE REVIEWED IT, JUDITH?
>> I REVIEWED IT WITH THEIR ATTORNEY AND IT HAS BEEN EXECUTED BY THE DEVELOPER.
I'M NOT SURE REAL SURE WHY IT DIDN'T GET INTO THE PACKAGE, BUT IT WAS EXECUTED A WEEK AGO YESTERDAY.
IT HAS THE [INAUDIBLE] FEES AND THE PARK FEES.
THAT WAS A REZONED PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT WAS REZONED TO PD WITH A LIST OF RESTRICTIONS THAT WAYNE BROUGHT FORTH LAST SUMMER.
IT'S ALSO SUBJECT TO THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
>> THIS WAS ONE OF THE BUILDINGS WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE 30TH OR 31ST, WHICH THEY HAD ALL THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW, SO THEY'RE READY TO GO.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO CHANGES AFTER THAT BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE SAID WE WANTED, THEY WERE FINE WITH AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
I MOVE WE APPROVE TO GIVE FOR MEADOWS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> MOTIONED BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRITE, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING "AYE".
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
ITEM NUMBER 23, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION WILL FOLLOW.
[23. Discussion and possible action on the Final Replat of Kiber Reserve Phase 1.]
REPLAT OF KIBER RESERVE PHASE 1.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
THIS IS THE FINAL REPLAT OF KIBER RESERVE PHASE 1.
IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE NOTED BY THE CITY ENGINEER IN HIS MEMO, WHICH ARE FAIRLY MINOR ITEMS THAT WILL CLEAR BEFORE WE RECORD THE FINAL PLAT.
P&Z RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY ON APRIL THE 1ST.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
>> IN THE PACKET IS ALSO THE RESPONSE FROM THE DEVELOPER ON THE ITEMS THAT YOU ALL REQUESTED OF THEM ABOUT INITIAL DETENTION COST AND FOUNTAIN COSTS, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
>> THIS WILL WHAT P&Z AS WELL, SEVEN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED? FROM WHAT I'M READING.
>> THE PLAT DID, THE FOUNTAIN AND OTHER THINGS DID NOT.
>> I DON'T SEE ANY COMMENTS FROM THEM.
>> I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THERE.
>> ACTUALLY, THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 29.
>> THAT'S A LATER ITEM IN THERE.
>> THIS IS APPROVING THE PLAT OR NOT THE FEES.
>> THIS IS JUST THE FINAL PLAN.
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>> THIS IS WHERE I GET CONFUSED AND I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOR YEARS AND WE HAVE ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT COMING THROUGH.
IF WE APPROVE THIS PLAT, BUT THEY STILL DON'T HAVE THEIR DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT FINALIZED, THEN WHAT KIND OF RISK ARE WE TAKING? BECAUSE THEY ARE A PD.
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY RISK.
>> BUT THEY'RE RECORDING THEIR PLAT SO.
>> NO, THEY ARE NOT RECORDING THEIR PLAT.
THIS IS JUST APPROVING THEIR FINAL PLAT.
THEY STILL HAVE TO SETTLE THE CARE FEES AND THE PARK FEES AND GET THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT APPROVED BEFORE WE'LL ISSUE ANY BUILDING PERMITS FOR CONSTRUCTION, OTHER THAN THE FOUR MODEL HOMES THAT THEY CAN GET, WHICH ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE.
>> SO THERE IS A CHAIN THAT THEY CAN, BY DOING THIS THEY CAN PUT FOUR MODEL HOMES ON THE GROUND.
>> YEAH. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN APPROVED FINAL PLAT BEFORE YOU CAN GET A PERMIT TO DO A MODEL HOME. YES.
>> DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. WRIGHT?
>> I'VE GOT AN OUTLOOK. WITH REGARDING THE SUBDIVISION PLAT, AND I HAVE GIVEN SOME COMMENTS TO THE [INAUDIBLE] AND I'VE FOUND SOME ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED, MATHEMATICAL THINGS, DIMENSIONAL THINGS THAT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, GOT OVERLOOKED, OR WHATEVER.
SO THOSE ARE BEING ADDRESSED AND THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF PRIOR TO FILING THE PLAT OF RECORD.
I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU ALL WITH DIMENSIONAL MISALIGNED. [LAUGHTER].
>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR GOING OVER IT.
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE FINAL REPLAT OF KIBER RESERVE PHASE 1, SUBJECT TO THE ITEMS THAT COUNCILMAN BOOTH HAS POINTED OUT IN THE PLAT REVIEW, BEING ADDRESSED.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING "AYE".
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.
[24. Discussion and possible action on the Windrose Green Section 3 Preliminary Plat.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON WINDROSE GREEN SECTION THREE PRELIMINARY PLAT. MR. WALT.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS IS THE WINDROSE GREEN SECTION 3 PRELIMINARY PLAT.
IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE NOTED BY THE CITY ENGINEER'S MEMO AND P&Z RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FROM THEIR MEETING ON APRIL 1ST BY A VOTE OF SEVEN IN FAVOR AND NONE OPPOSED.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE SHORTLIST OF COMMENTS FROM THE CITY ENGINEER BEING CLEARED BEFORE FINAL PLAT APPLICATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
>> I'M NOT SURE HOW IT'S NOT THE P&Z 40-FOOT LOTS, BUT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING I'M IN FAVOR OF.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE DON'T WANT 40-FOOT LOTS.
THE MINIMUM RIGHT NOW OVER THERE IS 45. NO?
>> WHAT DO WE HAVE UP THERE ON PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO?
>> RIGHT? SO THE MINIMUM IS 45, AND NOW WE'RE DROPPING DOWN TO 40S.
>> A COUPLE OF THINGS THIS BRINGS TO MIND IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING, THESE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL CAN DO FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.
I FEEL LIKE THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN UNANIMOUS.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY ACTIVELY.
I DON'T KNOW OF A SINGLE CITIZEN OF ANGLETON WHO'S ACTIVELY ADVOCATING FOR 40 FOOT LOTS, OR 45 FOOT LOTS, OR 50 FOOT LOTS FOR THAT MATTER.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPERS THAT ARE KEEN TO THAT.
MAYBE THERE'S NOTHING WE, AS CITY COUNCIL CAN DO, THIS TRAIN IS OUT ON THE TRACKS, IT'S DOWN THE ROAD AND IT'S GAINS STEAM AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
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BUT I'M ECHOING A LOT OF WHAT JOHN SAID, THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT 40 FOOT LOTS AND TO ME THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS GOING THE WRONG WAY.WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PROVIDING ACCESS TO SMALLER LOTS, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE JUST ADDRESSED THAT IN JUST THE LAST TWO THINGS WE JUST APPROVED, [INAUDIBLE] , GIFFORD MEADOWS.
TO ME, IT FEELS UNCONSCIONABLE, BUT HERE WE ARE.
>> IF I MAY ADD, I'M GLAD YOU'RE SPEAKING UP, BUT MY SETTLEMENT, I DON'T THINK I'VE ACTUALLY SAID NO TO A SINGLE 40-FOOT LOT.
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THERE'S STILL SIX OF US UP HERE, SO THE GRAND STATEMENT THAT WE SAY WE ALL ARE OPPOSED TO IT.
WE'VE HAD THE MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION TO TRY TO FIGURE WHERE WE'RE AT.
NOW THE PEOPLE THAT COMPLAIN, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT COMPLAINING, BUT THOSE THAT SHOW THE CONCERN, MAYBE THE ONES THAT OPPOSE, IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE WE DO UP HERE, PEOPLE DON'T SAY ANYTHING TO US UNLESS THEY ARE AGAINST IT.
WE DON'T HEAR THE PEOPLE THAT SAY, "I'M FOR IT" OR "I'M NOT FOR IT." FOR SOME PEOPLE, THEY MAY NOT, THEY DON'T CARE.
THEY MAY NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY, PROBABLY THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.
BUT THE ONES THAT ARE INTO, THAT KNOW HOW TO REACH OUT TO A COUNCILPERSON, THEY DO LET US KNOW, THEY DO TELL US WHAT THEIR CONCERN IS.
TO ME, THIS STATEMENT IS THAT NOT A SINGLE PERSON IS ADVOCATING IT, IT'S PROBABLY THOSE THAT WE ALL KNOW WHO TYPICALLY HAVE THE BARK AND THE BITE WHO REACH OUT TO US.
I'M JUST MAKING A FAIR STATEMENT TO THAT, BECAUSE WE DO HEAR A LOT OF THE GOOD THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT THE BIG CHEERLEADING GRANDIOSE THAT WE HEAR.
NOW, IF IT WAS IN THE DEVELOPERS' AGREEMENT, WE AGREED TO IT, THEN WE MUST HAVE MESSED UP AND APPROVED THAT PIECE THERE.
[NOISE] I'M GOING TO SAVE SOME OF MY TALKING POINTS FOR LATER ON IN THE DISCUSSION AS WE GET FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A BONE OF CONTENTION WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CITY WHO'S GOT TO THIS POINT.
I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ONLINE, I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS, TALKED TO REALTORS OVER THE WEEKEND, SO I DO SEE IT.
I'M HEARING BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE, I'M HEARING BOTH SIDES OF IT.
IS IT A MATTER OF PREFERENCE, IS IT A MATTER OF AN EMOTION, IS IT A MATTER OF WHAT DO I WANT VERSUS WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT OR A CITIZEN WHO'S LOOKING TO COME TO ANGLETON? WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT.
I HAVE TO TAKE THE EMOTION OUT OF IT, THAT PERSONAL PREFERENCE, AND WHAT'S REALLY THE GREAT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WHY PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO ANGLETON.
TONIGHT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS THIS APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.
WHETHER WE SAY IT'S KNOCKING ON US, I DON'T KNOW, CAN'T SAY IF IT DID OR NOT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE DONE THIS, IF IT WAS WRITTEN SOMEWHERE THAT WE MAY HAVE SAID WE'RE AGREEING TO IT.
IF THERE'S AN AGREEMENT OUT THERE, THEN SHAME ON US IF THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
>> THIS WAS AN AGREEMENT IN LATE 2019 WITH THE DEVELOPER, MAYBE DIFFERENT CLIMATE, DIFFERENT TIMES, DIFFERENT WHATEVER.
I'M NOT SURE WE WANT TO GO AGAINST THE DEVELOPER THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH.
ITEM 33 IS ABOUT ADDRESSING THE FUTURE AND THE WAY WE GO FROM HERE, I THINK.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS ONE POINT FROM THE MAYOR.
AGAIN, I'LL RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH YOUR POINT BECAUSE JUST EARLIER TONIGHT YOU STOOD BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND SAID THAT WE HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE SOLAR LIGHT.
PEOPLE WERE POSITIVE, PRAISING US FOR THAT.
I'M NOT HEARING THE PRAISE FOR THAT FOR 40 FOOT LOTS.
YOU'RE SAYING WE ONLY GET NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WE DO GET POSITIVE FEEDBACK TOO.
IF WE WERE HEARING THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK, WE WOULD BE HEARING THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND WE'RE NOT.
I'M NOT, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.
I APOLOGIZE IF I SPOKE FOR ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER TIME, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD A SINGLE PERSON PRAISE 40 FOOT LOTS OR 45 FOOT LOTS.
WHEN GOOD THINGS HAPPEN IN THE CITY, THERE IS PRAISE.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. I STAND CORRECTED, WE DO GET THAT.
THAT'S THE FEEL-GOOD WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.
NOW MAYBE WHEN THE PEOPLE START NOTICING THE 45 FOOT LOT AND THEY'RE DRIVING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY START TO COMPLAIN THEN, THEN YEAH.
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BUT UNTIL THEY SEE THE FEEL-GOOD, I GET IT, THEY'RE GOING TO REACH OUT AND TELL US, "WOW, THAT IMPACTED ME RIGHT NOW." BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT IMPACT ONLY ON PAPER RIGHT NOW, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT ACTUALLY TANGIBLY TO SOMEBODY TO DRIVE IT AND SEE IT.>> MR. MAYOR, I ACTIVELY SOLICIT FEEDBACK ALL THE TIME AND I HEAR UNANIMOUSLY, THEY DO NOT WANT 45 FOOT LOTS.
I WELCOME ANYBODY TO COME INTO THIS CHAMBER TONIGHT AND TELL ME THEY WANT 45 FOOT LOTS.
COME LET ME KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD IT.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE REASON FOR THE BEGINNING, WHEN ALL THESE DEVELOPERS FIRST CAME TO ANGLETON THEY SAID, THE MARKET IS DICTATING THIS AND THIS IS WHAT WE MEAN.
WELL, I ALSO KNOW WE'VE HAD 70 FOOT LOTS, WE'VE HAD 80 FOOT LOTS, 100 FOOT LOTS, THEY ALL SELL.
EVERYTHING'S SELLING RIGHT NOW.
I CAN GIVE YOU THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT OVER THE WEEKEND WHERE THE INVENTORY OF HOMES IS AT AN ALL-TIME RECORD LOW AT THE MOMENT, AND THEY CAN'T BUILD HOUSES FAST ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE WILL BUY.
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE ONLY BUYING 45S, THEY'RE ONLY BUYING 50S.
NOW, I'M TRYING TO TAKE THE EMOTION OUT OF IT BECAUSE FOR ME THIS ISN'T AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE, IT'S A CITY ISSUE, IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE, ITS DENSITY.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET STUCK PAYING FOR THE WATER AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE WE LET 2,000 HOMES COME INTO THIS CITY AND NOW WE NEED TO BUILD ANOTHER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WE HAVE TO IMPROVE ALL OF OUR WATER LINES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR IT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M AFRAID OF AND THAT'S WHY I'M HAVING THE OBJECTIONS TO THE 45S AND THE 50S IS BECAUSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW AT CAPACITY.
THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND GENERATIONS PAYING FOR ALL THESE NEW SUBDIVISIONS.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY EMOTION COMES FROM.
>> I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. I DO UNDERSTAND IT'LL TAX IT WHETHER IT'S A 1,000 70 FOOT HOMES, THAT WOULD HAVE STILL TAXED THE SYSTEM VERSUS 1,000 40 FOOT.
IT'S NO DIFFERENT. THE HOUSE IS THE HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S 1,800 SQUARE FEET ON A 40 FOOT OR 1,800 SQUARE FOOT A 50 FOOT OR 60.
>> IT'S THE NUMBER OF HOUSES YOU CAN PUT THEM IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SEVENTY FOOT, 80 FOOT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT LESS DENSITY IN THAT AREA.
WE'RE LIMITED IN TOTAL LAND, REALLY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
NOW, WE CAN ANNEX OFF TO THE NORTH AND EVERYTHING, BUT INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AS IT IS NOW, WE'VE GOT TO PROTECT THAT.
>> THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR TONIGHT, WAS WHAT IS ACTUALLY LEFT? WHAT PARCELS ARE LEFT THAT SOMEBODY COULD GET FOR A SUBDIVISION? IS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR TONIGHT, I WANT TO SEE WHAT'S LEFT.
>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE WINDROSE GREEN BECAUSE I WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING.
I FEEL DEVELOPERS COME UP HERE, STEVE I'M NOT SAYING YOU DID THIS, BUT OKAY WE NEEDED TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.
BUT PHASE 3, WELL THIS IS PRELIMINARY WE STILL HAVEN'T FIGURED IT OUT YET, THIS IS JUST WHAT WE'VE DRAWN UP.
THEN WE APPROVE THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND SAY, "WELL, WE HAD IT IN THERE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO." BUT IT WASN'T REALLY FINAL AT THE TIME.
IT WAS HOW WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO IT.
A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE 2019, ALL THE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE COME IN.
TO GO SMALLER NOW SEEMS TO BE THE OPPOSITE OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT FOR A SECOND?
>> I SURE CAN. MY NAME'S STEVE TENNIS.
I'M WITH CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT, BEEN BEFORE YOU MANY TIMES.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WE DID FOR QUITE A WHILE BEFORE WE EVER ENTERED INTO THAT AGREEMENT.
THAT AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDES A MASTER PLAN.
THAT MASTER PLAN WAS PART OF AN EXHIBIT TO THE AGREEMENT.
IN THAT MASTER PLAN, IT SHOWS THE PRODUCT THAT WE HAD ASKED FOR, THAT CITY COUNCIL HAD REVIEWED, AND WE HAVEN'T DEVIATED FROM THAT MASTER PLAN.
SECTION 3 WAS ALWAYS SHOWN AS A 40-FOOT PRODUCT.
IT'S WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT.
THE COUNT FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT HASN'T CHANGED.
BUT BY MAYBE ONE LOT, IN FACT WE LOST A LOT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE PLAN IS EXACTLY THE WAY THE MASTER PLAN WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND SUBMITTED AND IT INCLUDED 40-FOOT PRODUCT.
I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE PRODUCT,
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WE HAVEN'T SELECTED THE BUILDERS THERE FOR THAT PRODUCT YET.WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO BECAUSE WE SEE THE GROWTH IN ANGLETON AND WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN BRAZORIA COUNTY AND WE WANT TO BE PREPARED.
WE HAVE SECTION 1 UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SECTIONS 2 AND 3 ARE CONTENTION ON THE PARK IN FREEDOM PARK THAT WE MET ON YESTERDAY ABOUT.
WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT UNTIL FREEDOM PARK POND IS CONSTRUCTED.
WE'VE COMMITTED TO BUILD THAT POND FOR THE CITY AS AN AMENITY AND AS THE TENSION FOR THE RANCHO DITCH DRAINAGE AND PROVIDE SOME DETENTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, A GOOD PARTNER FOR THE CITY.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BRING A VERY GOOD QUALITY PROJECT TO THE CITY.
>> PROBLEM IS IT'S 122 RESIDENTIAL LOTS OF 40-FOOT, THAT'S WHERE THE HEARTBURN COMES FROM.
NOW, I AGREE WHEN HE FIRST CAME TO US AND 2019 AND TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING, IT WAS REALLY YOU AND RIVER WOOD RANCH THAT WE WERE REALLY TALKING TO AT THE MOMENT ABOUT WHAT WE WERE GOING DO.
FOR WHATEVER REASON, WINDROSE GREEN SLOWED DOWN CONSIDERABLY.
IT TOOK QUITE A WHILE TO GET MOVING COMPARED TO THE OTHERS.
>> RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] YEAH. WE HAD A BIG DELAY IN THE CLEARING AND GRUBBING CONTRACT IN THE WETTEST PART OF THE YEAR THAT REALLY SLOWED US DOWN.
>> I GUESS WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE 40-FOOT? THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS TO YOU.
WHY CAN'T YOU COME BACK WITH SOMETHING BIGGER?
>> IT'S JUST THE MARKET THAT WE HAVE DONE OUR MARKET RESEARCH AND WHAT THE PRICE POINTS THAT ARE NEEDING FOR THAT PRODUCT AND BUYER THAT WE'VE RESEARCHED.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPER YET FOR SECTION 3?
>> WE WILL NOT START THE CONSTRUCTION UNTIL IT'S UNDER CONTRACT.
WE HAVE OFFERED IT TO THE TWO CURRENT BUILDERS THAT ARE BUILDING IN SECTION 1, ONE OF THEM DOES BUILD A 40-FOOT PRODUCT AND A NICE ONE, AND WE'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OTHERS, WE HAVEN'T MADE THAT FINAL DETERMINATION FOR.
EACH OF OUR PRODUCTS IS A TWO BUILDER PROGRAM.
>> OUT OF THE THREE SECTIONS, WHAT PERCENTAGE WOULD YOU SAY ARE THESE 40-FOOT LOTS? OR HOW MANY?
>> WELL, WE HAVE THREE SECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU.
SECTION 1 IS, OF COURSE, APPROVED COMPLETELY AND READY FOR RECORDATION, WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, IT HAS 148 LOTS.
SECTION 2, WHICH IS THE REPLACEMENT FOR SECTION 1, WHICH WE ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE ONE ON THE SHELF READY TO GO, AND BASED ON THE MARKET DEMAND WE'LL PULL THE TRIGGER ON CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.
THAT HAS 70 LOTS AND IT IS 45S AND 50S, IT'S A REPLACEMENT FOR SECTION 1.
SECTION 3, WE MOVE FORWARD THAT FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE, IT BROUGHT THE OTHER PRODUCT, THE THIRD PRODUCT, WE'RE LOOKING TO GENERATE MORE VELOCITY.
IT ALSO GIVES US A SECOND CONNECTION DOWN TO HENDERSON ROAD.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ON NEEDING THAT SECOND POINT OF ACCESS SOONER THAN LATER.
WE WOULD ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH SECTION 3 AHEAD OF SECTION 2 IF THE MARKET AND THE SALES OF THOSE 45S AND 50S DOES NOT HAPPEN AS QUICKLY AS WE'D LIKE.
WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD SECTION 3 WHICH WOULD GIVE THE COMMUNITY TWO DIFFERENT ROADS AND POINTS OF ACCESS.
>> BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE LOTS THAT JUST HAS TO DO WITH ACCESS.
>> NO. THOSE WERE ALWAYS PLANNED TO BE 40-FOOT LOTS.
>> BEEN TOLD IT'S ABOUT 19 PERCENT.
>> OF THE SEVEN SECTIONS, NOT THE THREE-SECTION THAT YOU HAVE PLANNED RIGHT CURRENTLY.
>> THREE SECTIONS OF THE TOTAL BUILD.
>> THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THREE THAT WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD.
>> WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THE OTHER ONES AS WE NEED THEM.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER 40-FOOT LOTS PLANNED FOR THE ADDITIONAL SECTIONS?
>> NOT AT THIS TIME MEANS SUBJECT TO YEAH, WE COULD CHANGE OUR MINDS AND ADD SOME?
>> ONCE AGAIN, OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALLOWS FOR THAT PRODUCT.
WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE OF THOSE,
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I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING SHOWN ON THE MASTER PLAN FOR THAT.>> DOES YOUR MASTER PLAN, MASTER PLAN THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, OR JUST THESE FIRST THREE DEVELOPMENTS?
>> THE MASTER PLAN THAT'S A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SHOWED A TOTAL PLAN OF 649 LOTS, I BELIEVE.
>> IN ALL OF THEM ARE DIMENSIONED ON THE MASTER PLAN THAT IS INCORPORATED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT?
>> I MENTIONED THAT LOTS AREN'T GENERALLY DIMENSIONED ON THE MASTER PLAN, THEY JUST SHOW STREET PATTERN AND LOTS.
>> WHEN YOU SAID IN SECTION 3 WAS IN THE MASTER PLAN, WAS IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT IN ALREADY 40 FOOT LOTS.
>> YEAH LOT SIZES, THE GENERAL LOT SIZES.
>> COUNCIL AND REMIND YOU, HALF OF US WEREN'T HERE WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS ENACTED.
WE'RE ACTING ON THINGS THAT WERE HANDED TO US AS NEW MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF EFFORT, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES HERE TO GAIN WISDOM, WISDOM FOR OUR CITY, FOR THE ENSUING DEVELOPMENTS.
YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL ZONING OF OUR CITY THE WAY IT IS NOW PREDOMINANTLY IS ZONED, WHATEVER THE 6.3 AND 7 POINT SOMETHING IS.
IT'S WHERE EVERYONE IS LIVING TODAY.
THAT'S THE SIZE LOT WE'RE LIVING IN.
A PROOF IS GOING TO BE IN THE PUDDING.
IF THEY CAN SELL THESE LOTS, THEY CAN GET PEOPLE IN THERE TO BUY THEM.
THIS IS NOT MY FAVORITE SIZE OF LOT I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY.
>> MY CONCERN IS NOT WELL NUMEROUS, BUT I THINK WE'LL SELL THEM.
>> WE'LL SELL THE LOTS TO BUILDERS.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO SELL INTO RENTAL, TOO BIG CONGLOMERATES OUT TO CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK AND THEY'LL TURN THEM INTO RENTAL PROPERTIES AND THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY ADOPTED AND I REALLY LIKE AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S TOO LATE TO ADOPT THIS IN HERE IS THE SETBACKS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO 40-FOOT WIDE, I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE A WIDER SETBACK.
>> STREET PARKING IS AN ISSUE I MEAN IN ALL SUBDIVISIONS MUCH LESS WHEN YOU'RE GOT 40 FOOT LOTS DENSITY.
>> ALL OF OUR LOTS HAVE 60 FOOT RIGHT A WAY'S AND 25-FOOT BUILDING SETBACKS.
>> LET'S SAY A TRUCK RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 15-20 FEET LONG, RIGHT?
>> SO YOU'RE ONLY GIVING ENOUGH FOR ONE CAR.
>> YOU HAVE 16 FOOT FROM THE BACK OF THE CURVE TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND ANOTHER 25 FOOT.
>> IF SOMEBODY'S ON A SIDEWALK, THEY CAN'T GO PAST THE DRIVEWAY.
THEY HAVE TO GO OUT THE DRIVEWAY, ONTO THE ROAD, AROUND THE CAR, AND BACK UP ON THE SIDEWALK. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> I BELIEVE 25 FOOT IS YOUR STANDARD SETBACK.
>> OUR STANDARD LOT SIZE TYPICALLY IS 60 FOOT TOO.
I WOULD SAY THAT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO 40, I THINK YOU NEED AT LEAST A 30 FOOT.
AT LEAST TWO CARS CAN PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY AND KEEP THE MINIMUM OFF-THE-STREET PARKING.
>> AS OF RIGHT NOW, OR PREVIOUS 40-FOOT HOMES THAT YOU'VE BUILT, WHAT'S THE TYPICAL BACKYARD SPACE FROM BACK OF THE HOUSE TO THE FENCE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE NOT THE BUILDER. WE'RE THE DEVELOPER.
I DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCES BUILDING HOMES OR LOT SIZES.
IF YOU HAVE PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
WHAT IS JUST A ROUNDABOUT? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TAPE MEASURED.
>> TYPICAL PAD IS BETWEEN 70 AND 80.
IT'S REALLY DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S A ONE-STORY OR A TWO-STORY PRODUCT.
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ON A TYPICAL LOT, OUR LOTS ARE 120-FOOT DEEP.YOU TAKE 25 FOOT OFF OF THAT FOR THE FRONT, YOU HAVE 95, 70 OFF OF THAT, YOU HAVE A 25 FOOT REAR YARD.
>> OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE MR. WRIGHT A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE.
IF YOU TAKE IT OFF THE FRONT, YOU'VE GOT TO- [OVERLAPPING]
>> OF COURSE, YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FRONT THAN I AM THE BACK, ABOUT PARKING.
>> EVERY LOT, NO MATTER WHAT SIZE IT WOULD BE, WITH A 25-FOOT SETBACK, YOU HAVE THE SAME LENGTH OF DRIVEWAY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. BUT YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO BE PUTTING A WHOLE LOT MORE HOUSES IN THE END HERE THAN YOU WOULD ON A 50 FOOT OR 55 OR 60.
SO YOU'D HAVE MORE ROOM TO PARK OUT FRONT ON THE DRIVE.
I HAVE IN-LAWS THAT LIVE IN SUB-DIVISIONS IN HOUSTON.
I'VE SEEN THE DANGERS OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS AND WHAT THEY DO, PEDESTRIANS GETTING HIT BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GO AROUND ALL THE CARS ON THE ROAD BECAUSE THE ROADS ARE BUILT NARROW.
I'M NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'VE SEEN IT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID HERE.
>> JOHN, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT WHERE THEY'RE END-TO-END FOUR CARS THAT DON'T BLOCK THE SIDEWALK OR JUST GO UP TO THE EDGE OF THE CURB THAT THEY GO TO THE APPROACH ONTO THEIR DRIVEWAY.
BECAUSE EVEN MY HOUSE, I GOT A 65-FOOT LOT AND I'M A FOUR-CAR FAMILY, WELL, FIXING TO BE FOUR, I HAVE THREE.
IF I PUT MY TWO UP, I BLOCK THE SIDEWALK, MY SIDE OF VISION.
>> EXACTLY. I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME FROM THE PEDESTRIANS, THAT THEY CAN'T RIDE THEIR BIKES, THEY HAVE TO GO OFF.
WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A SIDEWALK IF THEY CAN'T NAVIGATE IT EFFICIENTLY? ESPECIALLY FROM OUR HANDICAP PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN TO ME QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT.
>> I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THAT ORDINANCE ADOPTED IN ANGLETON. [OVERLAPPING]
>> OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH I BELIEVE ADOPTED THAT TOO.
I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE MORE SETBACK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE 40-FOOT LOTS ON THE FRONT SIDE.
>> I'M WILLING TO AGREE, BUT I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE THEM A MORE DEFINITIVE NUMBER. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME GUIDANCE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I SAID 30 FEET, BECAUSE THEY HAVE 25 ON HERE NOW.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUYING.
>> IN COMPARISON, GENTLEMEN, THE KIBER RESERVE PLAT WE JUST APPROVED HAS A 20-FOOT BUILDING LINE, WHICH IS EVEN LESS THAN.
TWENTY-FIVE-FOOT BUILDING LINE HAS BEEN THE STANDARD IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
JUST ABOUT EVERY SUB-DIVISION YOU LOOK IN, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT.
THERE ARE SOME ANOMALIES HERE AND THERE, AND SOME LARGER LOTS MAY HAVE A DEEPER SETBACK, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S BEEN A 25-FOOT BUILDING LINE.
>> I'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING BESIDES 40-FOOT TOO.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE IF THERE'S ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
>> MIKE, I'LL HAVE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
I KNOW YOU BUILT HOMES. WHAT DO YOU SEE?
>> I FEEL LIKE WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
TO ME, THEY'VE ALREADY PUT SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT IN IT THE SHIP'S SAILED.
BUT MOVING FORWARD WE CAN DEMAND THINGS.
BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE IT.
>> BUT WHERE YOU WERE DEVELOPING ALSO AS WELL, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN THAT AREA? BECAUSE I THINK YOU WERE IN AN AREA THAT'S [OVERLAPPING] COMPARABLE TO WHAT ANGLETON IS, SAME SIZE CITY.
>> RIGHT. IT'S 25-FOOT SETBACK.
>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, SIR.
I JUST KNOW YOU HAVE DEALINGS WITH A COMMUNITY THAT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS OURS, SAME DEMOGRAPHICS, A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH.
>> ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL. [BACKGROUND]
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>> MAYOR, TO GET THIS ON THE TABLE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WINDROSE GREEN SECTION 3 AS PRESENTED.
>> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA. FURTHER DISCUSSION.
>> JUDITH, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DIDN'T ACCEPT THIS? DO WE HAVE A LEGAL BASIS TO DO THIS?
>> THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SAYS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE A PLAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE IN WRITING THE LEGAL BASIS WHY YOU'RE NOT.
WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY IS DISSATISFACTION WITH THE TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPERS STATED THAT THE LOTS COULD BE A MINIMUM OF 40 FEET.
THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BE 40 FEET, THEY JUST CAN'T GO SMALLER THAN 40 FEET.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALSO HAS A DENSITY REQUIREMENT.
THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT REVOLVES AROUND THE CONNECTIONS.
THEY CAN'T EXCEED 660 CONNECTIONS.
THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES HAVE A SPA AGREEMENT AND MUD.
SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ARE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE THERE'S A SPA AGREEMENT AND A WATER WASTEWATER AGREEMENT.
BUT REALLY, WHAT I'M HEARING IS DISSATISFACTION WITH THE TERMS OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S ALREADY EXECUTED.
AGAIN, IT SAYS MINIMUM OF 40 FEET.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE LOTS HAVE TO BE 40 FEET, IT'S JUST THEY CAN'T FALL BELOW THAT.
>> THIS IS ONLY COMING TO US BECAUSE IT'S IN THE ETJ AND NOT THE CITY LIMIT.
THIS IS NOT IN THE CITY, THIS IS IN THE ETJ.
>> IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MUD. IT'S IN THE MUD DISTRICT.
>> WELL, SHOULD THEY BE FOLLOWING THE NEW COUNTY STANDARDS?
THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CAME TO THE CITY IN 2019.
I BELIEVE CITY EXECUTED THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN THE BEGINNING OF MARCH OF 2020.
>> YEAH. FOR ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
>> SO THE ENTIRETY OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT IN PHASES?
>> IT SHOULD BE BASED ON WHATEVER THE PLAN WAS PRESENTED AT THE TIME WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS ATTACHED.
IT'S HUGE. I CAN DEFINITELY DOUBLE-CHECK WHAT HE'S SAYING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT ACCOMPANIED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT JIVES.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT, ON THE DENSITY AND THE LOT SIZE, THE AGREEMENT SAYS MINIMUM OF 40 FEET.
>> I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHEN IT GOES INTO EFFECT FOR PLATTING; WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ITSELF OVERRIDES ACTUAL FINAL PLAT BEING SUBMITTED.
>> THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS GOING TO TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER YOUR LDC.
AGAIN, YOU'RE ASKING ME ABOUT A HUGE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I HAVE IT UP. I'M LOOKING AT IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S LANGUAGE IN IT LIKE THAT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IF THE CITY ADOPTS AN ORDINANCE, MINIMUM LOT SIZE CAN ONLY BE 60, IF THEY GO BACK FOR NEW PHASES, ARE THEY SUBJECT TO THAT ORDINANCE OR ARE THEY GRANDFATHERED IN AS WELL?
>> THERE COULD BE LANGUAGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS THAT TYPE OF THING.
I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I DO NOT THINK THAT'S IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU NEGOTIATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
BUT THE WAY THIS ONE WAS, I JUST FOUND THE SENTENCE, "THE GENERAL PLAN SHALL CONTROL IN THE CASE OF A CONFLICT WITH YOUR LDC." I'M NOT SURE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS EXACTLY.
>> THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND HERE IS THAT LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS ARE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THIS IS NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
YOU COULD CHANGE THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND IT HAS NO EFFECT ON THIS PROJECT AND THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
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>> THE WAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN, THOUGH, IS IF THEY WANTED TO IN SECTIONS 4, 5, 6, AND 7 TURN THEM ALL INTO 40-FOOT LOTS, THEY COULD TURN IT ALL INTO 40-FOOT LOTS.
>> THAT MIGHT EXCEED THE DENSITY.
>> YEAH, SO WE'RE BACK TO THE DENSITY.
>> THAT WOULD EXCEED THE DENSITY.
>> THE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE- [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY CAN'T EXCEED 660 UNITS.
AGAIN, THEY COULD BUILD LESS THAN 660 UNITS, BUT THEY CAN'T EXCEED 660 UNITS.
>> I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN THE TOTAL ORIGINALLY.
>> WELL, IF IT EXCEEDS 660, THEN THAT'S VIOLATING SECTION 3.2 OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> WHEN THIS FIRST CAME TO COUNSEL, THIS WAS THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON, THE FIRST DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
>> UNTIL TONIGHT, IT WAS THE ONLY DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON, IT WAS DONE IN 2019.
IT WAS PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS OF A FORMER CITY MANAGER TRYING TO GET DEVELOPMENT TO COME INTO ANGLETON.
THE NUMBER WAS ALWAYS SET AND THE DENSITY WAS ALWAYS 660.
IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE BETWEEN 40, 45, AND 50-FOOT LOTS.
IT'S NOT LIKE A CARTE BLANCHE.
IF HE WANTS TO CHANGE EVERYTHING TO 40-FOOT LOTS, HE CAN CHANGE 40-FOOT LOTS AND JUST JAM AS MANY HOUSES IN THERE, HE HAS TO MAINTAIN THAT 660 HOUSES.
>> BUT YOU COULD PUT 660 40-FOOT LOTS IF YOU WANTED AND HAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE, I GUESS.
>> CORRECT. IT'S THE CONNECTIONS THAT'S GOING TO CONTROL IT.
NOW, THE OTHER THING TOO IS, IF I BELIEVE CORRECTLY, IN THE SPA AGREEMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND DISCUSSED IS THERE'S A CERTAIN TIME AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT THEY'VE AGREED.
I BELIEVE, STEVE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO ANNEX THAT PORTION INTO THE CITY, AND IT'S ALREADY AGREED TO.
>> IS THAT 50 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> I THINK IT'S 40 YEARS, I THINK.
IT'S BEEN SINCE 2019 SINCE I'VE READ IT.
I HADN'T SEEN THE EXECUTED ONE.
[INAUDIBLE] MY COMMENTS AT THAT TIME. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO STAFF AT THAT TIME, IS WE WANTED TO GET DEVELOPMENT STARTING TO OCCUR IN ANGLETON.
THE IDEA WAS GETTING A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT WITH A SPA AGREEMENT, AND A UTILITY AGREEMENT, AND THAT'S HOW THAT SETUP IS TO GET INTEREST INTO THE CITY.
YOU ARE SELLING THEM WHOLESALE UTILITY SERVICES, SO BASICALLY YOU'RE INCREASING YOUR BILLING RATE ON THAT, AND IT'S AT A HIGHER RATE BECAUSE IT IS IN THE ETJ, NOT IN THE CITY.
IT IS CREATING SOME ADDITIONAL INCOME INTO THE CITY, BUT IT'S MAINLY CONTROLLED BY THE 660 CONNECTIONS.
>> THIRTY. WELL, IT'S THE EARLIER OF.
>> WHETHER YOUR DEBT'S REDUCED OR 30 YEARS, IS HOW IT WAS CONSTRUCTED.
>> THANKS FOR THAT, JOHN. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I GUESS MY LAST COMMENT IS GOING TO BE, THIS IS KIND OF A SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY, IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY'LL BUY IT.
IF YOU BUILD 40-FOOTS, THEY'RE GOING TO BUY THEM, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO.
BUT IF YOU BUILD 50S, 60S, 70S, THEY'RE GOING TO BUY THOSE TOO.
SO BUY A BUILDING AT 40-FOOT LOT OR 45, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GET THE SELL, INVENTORIES ALONE.
>> TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I AGREE.
IF WE BUILD IT, WE PROVIDE THEM 40-FOOTS, I THINK ANGLETON IS ATTRACTIVE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIKE IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE MR. [INAUDIBLE] IS DOING A GOOD JOB, HE IS PRESENTING SOME GOOD IDEAS.
WE JUST HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR LOT SIZES. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT.
MY POSITION IS ALSO, THOUGH, THAT WHAT WE WANT WE'LL GET, OR WHAT WE WILL ALLOW WE WILL ACHIEVE.
THIS IS WHERE CITY COUNCIL, THROUGH LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE IN ANGLETON, CAN TRY TO REPRESENT THE CITY AS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE MOST WANT AND DESIRE.
I AGREE WITH MR. BOOTH AS WELL, THIS IS AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS.
ANYWAY, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
>> IF I MAY ADD, BECAUSE JOHN AND I SAT AT THIS TABLE IN 2019, YOU GUYS WERE FIRST-TIMERS, HAVING GONE THROUGH AN ELECTION AND HAD TO CAMPAIGN AND GO KNOCK ON DOORS AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE.
AT THE TIME THAT I RAN FOR MAYOR FOUR YEARS AGO,
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I CAN GET MY DOOR KNOCKER GUYS AND THEY CAN VOUCH FOR US, WE KNOCKED ON ABOUT 600 HOMES.EVERY NIGHT WE WOULD GO OUT, AND WHAT WE HEARD WAS THERE'S NOTHING HERE, THERE'S NO HOUSING HERE.
THERE WAS A LOT THAT WE LACKED BECAUSE PEOPLE HAD TO GO AWAY TO GET WHAT THEY WANTED.
WE WERE TOLD BY OUR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, THE ONLY WAY WE GET A LOT OF THOSE EXTRA LUXURIES, I'LL EVEN CALL CHICK-FIL-A A LUXURY, IS YOU HAVE TO GET THOSE ROOFTOPS.
THAT'S WHY WE BECAME SO INVITING FOUR YEARS AGO TO SAY, HEY, WILL YOU COME, BECAUSE WE KNOW ONCE THESE PEOPLE OR THESE CORPORATIONS OR MORE MOM AND POPS SEE THE ROOFTOPS, THAT WILL BE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL GO, THERE'S MONEY THERE.
THERE'S MONEY THAT WE CAN GET.
THERE'S THINGS WE CAN OFFER TO MAKE IT THAT COMMUNITY OF DESIRE.
TRAVIS, I'M WITH YOU. I GET IT.
EXPLOSION POPULATION. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WHAT'S GOING TO THE STREETS? I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
BUT WE ALSO HEAR THAT PEOPLE WANT CERTAIN AMENITIES OR THEY WANT CERTAIN THINGS.
IT'S GOING TO CREATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR PROPERTY TAXES.
WE'VE SAT AT THIS TABLE, JOHN AND I HAVE BEEN HERE WHEN WE PINCHED PENNIES, AND IT WAS TIGHT.
WE COULDN'T BUY A POLICE CAR IN THIS CITY.
THERE WERE SOME TIMES WHERE WE COULDN'T WRITE A CHECK.
BY TWO MONTHS WE'RE INTO THE BUDGET, WE COULDN'T WRITE A CHECK, THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH MONEY.
NOW WE'RE STARTING TO REWARD SOME AND GET SOME OF THOSE REWARDS, BEING ABLE TO GET SOME OF THESE LUXURIES THAT NOW WE CAN BUY NEW TAHOES, FOUR OR FIVE A YEAR, WE CAN BUY A FIRE TRUCK, WE CAN BUY STREET IMPROVEMENT.
SO IT'S HARD TO SWALLOW OR FIGURE OUT WHAT WE SAY YES TO, HOW WE APPEASE THE RESIDENTS, HOW DO WE ALSO APPEASE THOSE RESIDENTS THAT DISLIKE WHAT THEY'RE SEEING.
THEY'RE IN THEIR 30S. MEDIAN AGE OF ANGLETON IS 33 YEARS OF AGE.
THAT IS THE MEDIAN AGE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTING TO.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT'S HERE IN ANGLETON.
I GET IT, YOU DON'T WANT PEARLAND.
THAT'S WHY YOU MOVED FROM PEARLAND TO ANGLETON.
WE DON'T WANT IT EITHER. WE DON'T WANT A TRILLION CARS COMING THROUGH OUR CITY.
WE HAVE TO ALSO THINK ABOUT HOW DO YOU MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THAT DIRECTION IS GOING TO BE.
COUNCIL IS DIFFERENT TODAY THAN IT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO.
COUNCIL IS DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS 10 YEARS AGO, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF HOW WE DO THINGS BECAUSE THEN YOU BIND THIS COUNCIL.
JOHN HAS EVEN SAID IT, I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT BINDS THE COUNCIL FOR YEARS TO COME TO LET THEM DO THINGS.
WHEN WE DO SOME OF THESE THINGS, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT DO WE BIND THE FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ANY DECISION WE MAKE IS WHAT DO WE TIE THESE PEOPLE TO FOR THE FUTURE.
WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
THEN ALSO THE TIME THAT'S ALREADY BEEN INVESTED IN THESE PEOPLE.
I'VE SPENT AND TALKED TO SEVERAL DEVELOPERS, THEY'VE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THERE'S STILL NOT A HOUSE ON THE GROUND.
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THERE'S NOT ONE HOUSE YET. IT'S COMMON.
>> THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES IN DEVELOPMENT THOUGH. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU SPEND A LOT OF MONEY UPFRONT BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE A PLACE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> EXACTLY. I KNOW I DON'T GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SITTING THERE.
THESE MEN MAY HAVE INVESTORS THAT ARE BANKING ON THEM ON RETURNING THAT INVESTMENT.
IF WE DO THIS OR SQUISH IT AND WE'VE GOT SOME LEGAL BINDING, THEN WE WILL BE LOSING OUR MILLIONS BY LAWSUITS OR WHATEVER COULD HAPPEN.
WE JUST GOT TO THINK OF THESE THINGS.
IT'S VERY LARGE AND GLOBAL WHERE WE'RE MOVING TO AS A COMMUNITY.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY FOR THIS ONE.
>> THAT'S WHERE WE NEED OUR STAFF TO REALLY START LOOKING AT THIS STUFF AND PROTECTING THE CITY.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD TURNOVER IN STAFF, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THE STAFF IN THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE DIRECTION THE COUNCIL'S WANTING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ABIDING BY THAT.
BECAUSE, HONESTLY, I FEEL SNICKERED AT 2019, NOT WORST-CASE SCENARIO, BUT WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WINDROSE GREEN WAS THE FIRST.
BUT THEN AFTER EVERYTHING STARTED, IT JUST STOPPED.
THEN WE WERE BROUGHT RIVERWOOD RANCH, WE WERE BROUGHT KIBER, AND ALL THESE OTHER ONES.
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WINDROSE GREEN COMES BACK AND HERE WE ARE TODAY APPROVING 40-FOOT LOTS, AND WE'VE GOT A PLETHORA OF NEED OUT THERE.
MAYOR, YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE IS A NEED FOR 40-FOOTS, 45S, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THAT IN THE PAST 3-4 YEARS WITH GREEN TRAILS AND ALL THESE OTHER PLACES.
TO KEEP PUTTING MORE IN THE INVENTORY I BELIEVE IS A DETRIMENT TO THE CITY, AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO STOP. THAT'S ALL.
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>> THAT'S WHY WE PUT ITEM 33 ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU-ALL TO GIVE THE STAFF DIRECTION, SO WE CAN TELL THEM WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO THEM AS DEVELOPERS.
>> BUT EDUCATING THE COUNCIL AS TO WHEN WE TAKE ACTION ON A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, JUST EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE BINDING THE FUTURE COUNSELORS TO.
>> MAYOR, MAY I ASK FOR A VOTE?
>> YES, SIR. WE'VE FINISHED THE DISCUSSION? [OVERLAPPING] I KNOW.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] SOME OF THE [INAUDIBLE] DISCUSSED ALREADY.
>> I GET IT, SIR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. OKAY. NOW THAT WE'VE WRAPPED UP OUR DISCUSSION, WE ARE [INAUDIBLE].
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.
>> OKAY. FOUR, TWO. MOTION CARRIES.
MOVING ON TO NUMBER 25, LAST CONSENT ITEM.
[25. Discussion and possible action on a Planning Services Contract with Gunda Coporation.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PLANNING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH GUNDA CORPORATION.AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? IS IT GUNDA?
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE HAVE WANTED TO UPDATE THE LDC FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
I THINK THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES RAISED AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE, IDENTIFY WEAKNESSES, AND STREAMLINE THE PROCESSES WITH CHECKLISTS.
WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A DRAFT CONTRACT FOR PLANNING SERVICES THAT CREATE AN ACTION PLAN WITH IMPLEMENTATION TO GO WITH IT, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE CODIFICATION, WE'D COVER THINGS EVEN INCLUDING TIRZ OR A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TYPE PROCESSES, SO IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU GUYS TO ASSESS THE ELIGIBILITY FOR CERTAIN TAX ABATEMENT SUCH AS CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENTS, AS WELL AS OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THINGS SUCH AS TIRZ AND [INAUDIBLE] I DO HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM GUNDA CORPORATION AND [NOISE] THEY CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU THE STRATEGY THAT IS DETAILED IN THE PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2, IT'S A DIAGNOSTIC REPORT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT'S BROKEN OUT WITH A SCOPE OF WORK IN THE SUMMARY OF PROPOSAL, WHICH CAN INCLUDE; ANNEXATION, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, ZONE CHANGES, VARIANTS, SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, PLANNING, AND SUBDIVISION.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS IN HERE.
I'M VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MS. LATA KRISHNARAO.
>> THIS IS NOT A STUDY, THIS IS AN ACTION PLAN? THIS IS A COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WHERE WE GET THE GUIDANCE FROM YOU-ALL ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE WRONG.
WE GO OUT, WORK WITH STAFF, WE WORK WITH DEVELOPERS, AND DESIGN THAT PROCESS, AND THEN REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU AND MAKE SURE IT'S THE PLAN THAT YOU ALL-WANT, AND WE WANT AS A COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION.
I'M WITH THE GUNDA CORPORATION.
I HAVE ABOUT 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN MUNICIPAL PLANNING.
[LAUGHTER] I RETIRED AS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FROM THE CITY OF PEARLAND [LAUGHTER] A FEW YEARS BACK, SO YEAH, WHEN I STARTED THERE IN 2003, I REMEMBER THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAD AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MAYOR REID ALL THOSE YEARS.
WE GREW FROM 40,000 TO 125 WHEN I LEFT.
YOU'RE GOING THROUGH WHAT PEARLAND DID IN THE DENSITY, THE LOT SIZES ALWAYS AN ISSUE SO I FELT LIKE I WAS TRANSPORTED BACK.
BUT AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU-ALL.
I HAVE WITH ME, MINDI SNYDER, I'LL JUST LET HER INTRODUCE HERSELF AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I AM WORKING PART-TIME WITH GUNDA, AND VERY HAPPY TO BE WORKING WITH LATA.
I ALSO RETIRED FROM THE CITY OF OCAMPO, BUT I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF WHARTON AND THE CITY OF ROSENBERG, SO SAW THE VARIOUS STRUGGLES THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
I WAS FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR 16 YEARS AND CITY MANAGER FOR MY LAST EIGHT.
I CAN RESPECT YOUR POSITION THERE IN WANTING TO HAVE SOME GOOD DIRECTION, AND I CAN TELL YOU, IN WORKING WITH GUNDA, IT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD TO SEE THE DESIRE TO HELP, GUIDE, AND DIRECT COUNCILS, AND WORK AS
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A PARTNERSHIP WITH STAFF AND COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS.I'M VERY HAPPY TO LET LATA SHARE SOME MORE INFORMATION WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MINDI. OUR PROPOSAL INCLUDES STARTING WITH THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT, WHICH REALLY LOOKS INTO YOUR CODES THAT YOU HAVE, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, THE ZONING REGULATIONS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED.
I KNOW SOME OF THAT IS A LITTLE OUTDATED, 2005, 2008, SO THE PART OF THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT WILL FIRST IDENTIFY THE DISCREPANCIES AND ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THE CONFLICTS THAT EXIST BETWEEN THESE DOCUMENTS AND WORKING WITH STAFF.
AGAIN, I DO COMMEND STAFF, YOU HAVE WELL TRAINED PLANNING STAFF AND THAT'S A GREAT THING.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, WITH THE MANAGEMENT TEAM, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THE CITIZENS, TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING HERE, BUT ALSO IMPORTANTLY, TO SEE WHAT IS IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE, AND DO THEY ALIGN WITH WHAT THE VISION OF THE COMMUNITY IS, AS INDICATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ONCE WE DO THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT, WHICH BASICALLY IDENTIFIES SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT, WE WILL COME UP WITH A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, AS TO HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THEN GIVE SOME VERY CLEAR GUIDELINES ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT THEM.
REALLY HAVING WORKED, BEING ON THE CITY SIDE FOR SO MANY YEARS, I CAN SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND WHERE'S THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THE COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE, AND REALLY HOW DO YOU TRANSLATE SOME OF THE VISIONARY THINGS INTO REGULATIONS? AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GOOD SET OF REGULATIONS BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY POWER YOU HAVE.
YOU MIGHT HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU MIGHT HAVE GUIDELINES, BUT IF YOU DON'T CODIFY THEM INTO YOUR ORDINANCES, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL LOOK INTO.
THE SECOND PART OF THE EXERCISE IS TO LOOK AT ALL THE PROCESSES THAT YOU HAVE, LOOK AT HOW MANY TYPES OF APPLICATIONS YOU HAVE, AND IF WE CAN, AGAIN, COMPREHENSIVELY LOOK AT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF EACH APPLICATION IS AND COME UP WITH PROCESSES THAT ARE UNIVERSAL AND CONSISTENT, I'S GOING TO HELP STAFF, CITIZENS, AND DEVELOPERS.
ALSO, IT SETS A VERY CLEAR GUIDELINES ON CITY'S EXPECTATIONS, AND IT'S EASY FOR DEVELOPERS TO FOLLOW.
I THINK IT HELPS BOTH SIDES IN THE PROCESS.
BUT ALSO LOOK AT, AGAIN, GUIDELINES AND CODIFY SOME OF THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS SO THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR.
MINDI BRINGS WITH HER OTHER EXPERIENCE THAT RELATES TO [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF IS TO COME UP WITH SOME GUIDELINES ON, WHAT DO YOU LOOK FOR IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? I WAS SITTING THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS PLAN, AND THEN GOING BACK SOME OF THE THINGS, DID THEY HAVE A MASTER PLAN? DID THEY TALK ABOUT DENSITIES? DID THEY TALK ABOUT LOT SIZES? WHAT KIND OF AMENITIES WERE PROPOSED? START LOOKING AT QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDED IN.
JUST COME UP WITH A FRAMEWORK TO HELP THE CITY MOVING FORWARD.
THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL, THE SCOPE OF OUR WORK.
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORK WITH YOU ALL AND CITY'S STAFF, TO HELP YOU IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN.
>> I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
>> ONE OF THE FEW QUESTIONS THAT COME UP BECAUSE WE JUST DEVELOPED THE LDC A FEW YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS A VERY ARDUOUS PROCESS AND I WILL SAY, MY BAD, I DIDN'T READ IT FROM PERIOD TO PERIOD, I DIDN'T DO THAT, BUT HIT THE HIGH POINTS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT LDC, AND THEN LOOK AND SEE WHERE WE SHOULD IMPROVE, OR THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW WE CAN MAKE IT A BETTER DOCUMENT THAT DOESN'T GET US IN THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE MAY HAVE GOTTEN INTO.
DO YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND THEN CROSS-REFERENCE? I DON'T WANT TO SAY, BUT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH OUR LDC SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S TOP SHAPE, IT GIVES US THE BEST BANK FOR OUR BUCK, AND OF COURSE, GIVES US THAT ROADMAP.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCOPE, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT.
ONE IS, DOES IT ALIGN WITH YOUR VISION? YOU MIGHT HAVE A VISION, BUT IF IT'S NOT IN YOUR CODE, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SECOND, WE'LL LOOK AT ALSO THE STATUTORY COMPLIANCE.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, AS YOU-ALL KNOW, SINCE 2019, THAT CURTAILS CITIES' ABILITY TO DO A LOT OF STUFF.
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BUT ALSO I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, CITIES HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY FINDING OTHER WAYS TO OVERCOME THAT.WE WILL MAKE SOME GUIDELINES ON THAT IF THE PROCESS MEETS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS NOW, AND WHAT ELSE CAN BE ADOPTED, OR PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU STILL HAVE SOME SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY.
WE WILL LOOK FOR CONFLICTS BETWEEN YOUR LDC, YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE, AND OTHER ORDINANCES IN THE CODES.
I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT RELATED ORDINANCES THAT ARE NOT IN DIFFERENT CHAPTERS OF YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, LIKE RESTRICTIONS ON SCREENING MOBILE HOMES.
WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK THROUGH YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES AND TAG ALL THE DEVELOPMENT RELATED, DUMPSTER SCREENING, FOR EXAMPLE, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND BRING THEM INTO ONE AREA SO THAT IT'S EASY FOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THAT IS BEING COMPLIED WITH, AND IT'S EASY FOR THE DEVELOPERS TOO.
BASICALLY, PUTTING ALL THE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES IN ONE PLACE, THEY CALL IT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE A LOT, BUT WE WILL IDENTIFY CONFLICTS AND MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN MAYBE LATER ON HAVE A DISCUSSION ON HOW YOU WANT TO SEE CHANGE, BUT WE'LL ALSO POINT OUT TO THE BEST PRACTICES IN OUR INDUSTRY NOW; HOW DO YOU INCREASE QUALITY OF LIFE, QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT? WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING? FOR EXAMPLE, I'D HEARD ABOUT THE MASONRY FENCING FOR SUBDIVISION FENCES.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'LL POINT OUT.
IT'S NOT JUST THE MASONRY FENCE, DO YOU HAVE A 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT DOES NOT ENCROACH INTO YOUR RIGHT OF WAY? DOES YOUR RIGHT OF WAY CROSS SECTIONS INCORPORATE ALL THOSE THINGS? THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL LOOK INTO.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
>> HOW MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE YOU HELPED WITH THEIR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE?
>> I THINK I'VE BEEN IN TEXAS FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS AND I HAVE 10 CITIES UNDER MY BELT NOW.
>> OKAY. THAT YOU TOOK THEIR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND TWEAKED IT AND HELPED THEM WITH IT OR YOU DEVELOPED NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES, OR?
>> YES, SIR. IN PEARLAND WHILE I WAS THERE WE DID THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE HAD A CONSULTANT TO HELP THEM BUT WE WERE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
I WILL TELL YOU SINCE THAT CODE WAS DEVELOPED, WHILE I WAS THERE WE MADE ABOUT 17 OR 18 AMENDMENTS, WHICH IS OKAY.
BECAUSE IT'S A GROWING TOWN AND WE NEED THE ABILITY TO RESPOND SO WE HAD THAT IN-HOUSE EXPERTISE TOO, IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE TO JUST GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND CHANGE THAT.
THEN FOR OTHER CITY, THERE ARE TWO OTHER CITIES THAT WE ARE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING.
WE FINISHED THE DEVELOPMENT AND DIAGNOSTIC FOR ANOTHER CITY, WHICH INTERESTINGLY THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE THEY WANT THERE IS THREE ACRES.
THEY DON'T LIKE THEIR 70, 80 FOOT LOTS AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THESE WERE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, THEY ADOPTED THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IN 2019 AND SO THEY'RE STUCK WITH ALL THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT APPROVED 70, 80 FOOT LOTS, BUT THEY DON'T WANT THAT, THEY WANT THREE ACRE LOTS.
IT'S UP TO THE CITY'S ASPIRATION, BUT WE JUST FINISHED THEIR DIAGNOSTIC REPORT AND THE CITY ASKED US TO ACTUALLY AMEND THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THEIR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
WHAT WE DID THERE WAS USE THEIR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS A STEERING COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY ARE RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE FIVE WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED AND WE'RE JUST GOING AREA BY AREA JUST POINTING OUT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE SEE AND THEN GETTING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
LIKE SIGNAGE WAS A BIG ISSUE THERE, PLOTTING IS A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE THEIR CODES THEY'RE NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE RECENT CHANGES WITH THE STATE STATUES.
THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WE GATHERED FROM THEM AND FROM OUR EXPERIENCE AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO MODIFY, SO WE'LL BE GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE TO PROPOSE THESE AMENDMENTS.
ANOTHER CITY WE'RE DOING, THEY HAVE FRONTAGE ON I-45, SO THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT SOME CORRIDOR HIGHWAY STANDARD SO THAT DEVELOPMENT ALONG I-45 HAD HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT CREATING NEW ZONES THERE AND PUTTING SOME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK, WE ARE INVOLVED IN THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS BEYOND TEAMS FOR THAT AND THEN DOING SOME LIVABLE CENTER.
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BUT MY PASSION AND WENDY'S PASSION IS WE'VE ALWAYS WORKED FOR SMALL CITIES ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA.I'M REALLY FORTUNATE THAT WITH THIS COMPANY I GET TO DO A LOT OF WORK WITH A LOT OF SMALL CITIES AND I LEARN A LOT FROM THEM AND I'M ABLE TO USE THAT EXPERIENCE.
WORKING IN PEARLAND WAS GREAT.
LIKE I SAID, I WOULD BRAG WE WERE DOING 2,000 HOME PERMITS EVERY YEAR AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE SOON.
[LAUGHTER] I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES YOU FACE.
IT WAS A JOKE THAT WE WERE PERMITTING EIGHT HOMES EVERY DAY, THE CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG MOVING IN EVERY YEAR.
[LAUGHTER] WE'VE SEEN PEARLAND GROW, SO WE HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.
WE ARE ABLE TO GO BACK AND RETROSPECTIVELY LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BETTER.
THAT'S WHAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE.
>> WOULD YOU MIND IDENTIFYING A COUPLE OF CITIES SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND OF THE SAME SIZE?
>> I'M GOING TO BE HAPPY TO DO SO.
THE CITY THAT REALLY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, THE ONE THAT I TALKED ABOUT THREE ACRES IS FAIR OAKS RANCH, IT'S A SUBURB OF SAN ANTONIO.
IT'S A FAIRLY AFFLUENT [LAUGHTER] CITY OF COURSE, AND THEIR ISSUE IS AGAIN QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT.
ITS A HILL COUNTRY CHARACTER, SO THAT'S THEIR CONCERN THAT SMALLER DEVELOPERS COME IN.
ANOTHER BIG PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE IS PAYING FOR GROWTH.
WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THIS GROWTH? THEY ALREADY HAVE ISSUES.
ONCE THE HOMES ARE BUILT AND AGING HOUSING AND AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, SO THEY ARE LOOKING VERY CLOSELY INTO COST OF DEVELOPMENT AND RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF WHAT THEY PUT IN, WHICH WE ACTUALLY DID IN PEARLAND TOO, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT; WHAT SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM COST OF HOUSING TO PAY FOR ALL THIS GROWTH? THAT'S ONE CITY, THE OTHER CITY IS LA MARQUE THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR, THAT'S WHERE WE DID SOME WORK ON THEIR QUARTER DISTRICTS AND THEN WE ARE HELPING THEM COME UP WITH SOME REGULATIONS FOR THEIR DOWNTOWN.
THEY HAD A PLAN WHICH NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED, SO THE FIRST THING TO DO IS LOOK AT THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
WE'RE DOING SOME WORK IN BROOKSHIRE NOW, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE CLIENTS THAT WE HAVE.
>> YOUR BRAIN IS SPINNING, I SEE IT.
>> MY ONLY QUESTION WAS AROUND THE FUNDING.
I SEE THE FUNDS REQUESTED AND THE BUDGET AMOUNT AND THE VAST STARK DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
CHRIS OR CHRIS SQUARE, WHO WANTS TO TAKE THAT? WHERE ARE WE PULLING THE FUNDS FROM?
>> GUYS, DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE IT? [LAUGHTER]
>> WE ARE DOING OUR JOBS AND SO WE ARE COLLECTING PERMITTING FEES.
SO 50 PERCENT OF THE WAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR AS OF MARCH 31ST, WE'RE UP BY A 126 PERCENT BUDGET.
WE BUDGETED AN ESTIMATED $260,000 OF REVENUE IN PERMITTING FEES, WE'RE SITTING IN ON 290,000 AS OF LAST WEEK.
THAT WAS OUR STRATEGY, WAS TO TAKE CARE OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT WHEN MR. HILL TAKES CARE OF HIS BUDGET AMENDMENT, IT WILL BE A WHOLE BUNCH OF ENTRIES AT ONCE IS HOW I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT THAT WILL BE PRESENTED AT A LATER TIME.
BUT IF THE TREND CONTINUES, THEORETICALLY WE SHOULD BE 252 PERCENT TO BUDGET FISCAL YEAR END.
>> THAT EXCLUDES ANY COUNTY AGREEMENT, RIGHT?
>> CORRECT. THAT'S JUST BASED OFF OF CURRENT PERMITS.
>> GENTLEMEN, I WANT TO MAKE YOU SMILE. IT'S A PLUS. [LAUGHTER]
>> IT MAKES ME SMILE. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S ALREADY SPENT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
>> WELL, JOHN, I'VE GOT WAYS TO SPEND IT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S WHY I FIRST LOOKED AT YOU, I DIDN'T EVEN SEE LINDSAY GO INTO THE PODIUM.
I WAS LOOKING CHRIS, CHRIS AND YOU SNUCK UP TO THE PODIUM.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE PLANNING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH KINDER CORPORATION.
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>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
>> YEAH, I HEARD EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL SAID IN THE PRESENTATION.
I REALLY HOPE YOU WORK WITH P&Z COUNCIL ON STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE GET A REALLY GOOD PRODUCT COMING OUT OF THIS.
>> THAT WAS ONE OF THE POINTS THAT THEY REALLY STRESSED WHEN THEY PRESENTED THEIR DRAFT DOCUMENT, WAS THE INCLUSION OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, EVEN DEVELOPERS, STAFF.
A LOT OF GOOD STAKEHOLDER INPUT AND I'M REALLY EAGER TO SEE WHAT WE BRING BACK TO YOU.
>> GOOD AND EXPLAIN AGAIN THE STAGING.
WE HAVE TOTAL FUNDS REQUESTED HERE A LITTLE OVER $74,000.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THREE DIFFERENT STEPS THROUGH THIS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YES AND THE CONTRACT IS ESTIMATED TO COST AROUND $67,000 OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, AND I INCLUDED IN EXTRA 10 PERCENT FOR CONTINGENCY FOR REIMBURSABLE COSTS FOR TRAVEL.
>> IT WOULD BE INVOICED OVER THE COURSE THE PROJECT?
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
>> THAT'S TWO HOURS AND 25 MINUTES INTO THE AGENDA.
WE JUST FINISHED OUR CONSENT ITEMS. [LAUGHTER] LET'S TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK RECESS AND WE'LL COME BACK AT 8:30.
>> [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD AND SHOW US BACK AT THE TABLE AT 8:32.
[NOISE] MOVING ON, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS IN NUMBER 26.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION
[26. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210413- 026 amending Section 28-109 of the City of Angleton Code of Ordinances related to the definition of home occupations to allow gunsmithing and firearms sales as permissible home occupations.]
ON ORDINATES NUMBER 2021/04/13-026, AMENDING SECTION 28-109 OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO THE DEFINITION OF HOME OCCUPATIONS TO ALLOW GUNSMITHING AND FIREARM SALES AS PERMISSIBLE HOME OCCUPATIONS. [INAUDIBLE]>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
AS YOU JUST READ, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE HOME OCCUPATION'S SECTION OF ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW GUNSMITHING AND FIREARM SALES.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL THE 1ST, AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FIVE IN FAVOR AND TWO AGAINST.
THIS AD AIM WAS INITIATED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM TO DO THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.
>> I PICKED UP THIS PROJECT LAST YEAR WHEN I ARRIVED.
THIS HAS BEEN I GUESS WORKING FOR A COUPLE YEARS ABOUT DEVELOPING THIS CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE.
THE PROCESS IS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO AN FFL LICENSE IN ANGLETON, ATF CALLS THE CITY AND SAYS DO YOU ALL APPROVE OF THIS? THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE.
IF IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND THEY JUST NATURALLY APPROVE IT BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT IN OUR ORDINANCE.
I WAS TOLD THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY WANTS TO DO.
I JUST PICKED UP THE BALL AND CARRIED IT ON.
THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE AS HOME OCCUPANCY, SALES.
WE REALLY WOULD JUST BE ADDING THIS TO THE LIST.
>> IS THERE MORE THAN ONE APPLICANT THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF OR JUST ONE LONE APPLICANT THAT WANTS TO DO THIS?
>> I'VE BEEN CONTACTED PRIOR BY ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN FOLKS OVER THE LAST YEAR WHO HAVE ASKED TO DO THIS.
I GUESS I'VE GIVEN THE GO-AHEAD TO ATF BECAUSE WE'VE SAID WE WANTED TO DO THIS AS AN INTERIM STEP.
TO PERMANENTLY SOLIDIFY THIS, I'M TAKING IT TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT, AND SO HERE WE ARE TODAY.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIRST DO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCOPE.
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING?
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.
NOW, WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WANTED TO SPEAK ON FOR, AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 26? THE PODIUM IS YOURS. JUST ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
TAKE YOUR TIME, SIR. TAKE YOUR TIME.
I'VE LIVED IN ANGLETON FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW.
I AM AN FFL HOLDER WITH THE BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES.
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I DON'T BUY OR SELL ANYTHING.THE PERSON WHO GETS THE GUN, BUYS IT FROM AN OUT-OF-STATE DEALER.
THEY SHIP IT TO ME BECAUSE I AM AN FFL, FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEE.
I MAKE SURE HE'S WHO HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
I SIGN IT OVER TO HIM AND HE'S GONE.
THERE ARE NO WEAPONS, EXCEPT FOR MY PERSONAL WEAPONS STORED IN MY HOME.
THERE IS NO AMMUNITION EXCEPT FOR PERSONAL AMMUNITION STORED IN MY HOME.
YOU WILL SEE A FEW MORE UPS TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT COME INTO THE HOUSE, BUT THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM COMING UP AND DOWN MY STREET.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I ENJOY DOING.
RIGHT NOW, WE'VE BEEN AT IT A LONG TIME.
I FORGOT HER NAME, THE LAWYER.
[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] SHE HAS SEEN ME WRITING EMAILS TO PREVIOUS [INAUDIBLE] THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, GUESS WHO SHOWED UP? A MAN WHO I KNEW WAS GOING TO GET THINGS DONE AND GET ME AT LEAST TO THIS POINT.
>> NO, SIR. THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS SO WE KNOW, YOU ARE FOR THIS ORDINATE'S CHANGE.
>> OKAY, YES. I WAS WONDERING WHERE THE VOICE WAS COMING FROM. [LAUGHTER]
>> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. ALL RIGHT, SIR.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? ARE YOU GOOD? OKAY. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, SIR.
>> DON'T SIT DOWN. DON'T SIT DOWN BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU IN A SECOND.
>> [OVERLAPPING] MR. JOHN, A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.
>> I'M GOING TO LET OTHERS TAKE THE PODIUM BUT DON'T SIT DOWN.
I'M ASKING YOU A FEW QUESTIONS.
>> I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SIT DOWN AND GET BACK UP.
>> [INAUDIBLE] , DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME ASKING THE QUESTIONS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> NO, ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU JUST A FEW.
HAVE YOU EVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, HAVE ANY ANY CRIMINAL HISTORY WHATSOEVER AROUND SELLING GUNS OR ANYTHING AROUND THAT?
>> YOU CAN SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE. [LAUGHTER]
>> I HAVE [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER] SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> NO, I HAVEN'T HAD THAT KIND OF THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHEN I'M SHOOTING FOR THE LICENSE SECURITY, I HAVE KEPT PEOPLE OFF THE RANGE [INAUDIBLE].
ANY PROBLEMS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, I'M GOING TO THROW IN A NAME FOR YOU TO GO CHECK [INAUDIBLE].
>> ALL RIGHT. DO YOU MANUFACTURE ANY GUNS IN YOUR HOUSE CURRENTLY?
>> I CLEAN. I WILL REPLACE PARTS BUT AS FAR AS SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY WORKS AND CHANGES A GUN AND ALL THAT, I SEND THEM TO THE MAN IN SWEENY.
>> OKAY. I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER IF ANYBODY ELSE DOES.
>> SOMEBODY WITH THE SAME LICENSE AS YOU, WOULD THEY TYPICALLY STORE FIREARMS IN THEIR HOME? I KNOW THAT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS MODEL BUT WITH THIS LICENSE, ARE THEY ABLE TO STORE FIREARMS LONG-TERM FOR FUTURE SELL?
>> LIKE I SAID, I DON'T BUY OR SELL GUNS OR AMMUNITION.
>> ALL I DO IS I ACT AS A TRENCH FOR RAGING.
>> THE WEAPON COMES TO ME FROM THE PLACE THE PERSON BOUGHT IT FROM.
I'LL LOOK IT UP, CALL HIM UP, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S RIGHT AND IT'S OUT OF THE HOUSE NORMALLY IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS.
>> DO YOU HAVE SURPRISE CHECK-INS BY THE ATF TO CHECK YOUR HOME AND YOUR FACILITY?
>> ATF HAS ALREADY COME BACK OUT AND THEY HAVE EXAMINED ME UP ONE SIDE AND DOWN THE OTHER.
I DO HAVE A SAFE THAT'S ABOUT THIS BIG.
I KEEP A LOT OF MY STUFF IN THERE.
WHEN SOMETHING COMES IN THAT WAS SHIPPED UNTIL THAT PERSON COMES AND GETS IT, I LOCK IT IN THAT GUN SAFE.
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ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OR AGAINST? OKAY.YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SIT DOWN NOW. WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 26? GOING SECOND TIME? THIRD TIME? COUNCIL.
>> MOVING CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> [NOISE] MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHTS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
NOW, WE'RE DOWN TO OUR DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM.
>> FOR THE RECORD, CITY MANAGER CHRIS WHITTAKER, YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS ON TO BENEFIT YOURSELF.
>>MIKE, HE ASKED ME THE SAME QUESTION.
>> [LAUGHTER] I DIDN'T KNOW IF HE WAS GOING TO ASK IT IN OPEN, [LAUGHTER] [NOISE] SO I FIGURED I'D ASK IT.
>> HE STILL DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
>> I AM NOT DOING THIS FOR MYSELF.
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210413-026, AMENDING SECTION 28-109 OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO THE DEFINITION OF HOME OCCUPATIONS TO ALLOW GUNSMITHING AND FARM SELLS AS PERMISSIBLE HOME OCCUPATIONS.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> YEAH. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS STILL HAPPENING NOW, AND NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PUT IT IN CODE SO THAT WE'RE OFFICIALLY MAKING SURE PEOPLE WILL REALIZE IT'S BEING DONE.
EVERYONE'S STILL GOING TO BE CHECKED BY THE ATF AND FOR ME, IT'S JUST PUTTING IT IN CODE.
>> GOOD. ANY MORE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> TO COMMENT THAT PEOPLE THAT DO THIS WORK ARE FAR A LOT SAFER THAN MOST PEOPLE WHO DO [INAUDIBLE] AT HOME ON WEAPON OF ANY KIND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES.
NUMBER 27, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING,
[27. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210413- 027 rezoning Chapter 28 Zoning Article III Zoning Districts Section 28-60 Light Industrial District (LI) to Article III Zoning Districts Section 28-43 Single Family Estate Residential 20 District (SFE-20) of the Code of Ordinances City of Angleton, Texas; providing a severability clause; providing for a penalty; and providing for repeal and an effective date.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210413-027, REZONING CHAPTER 28, ZONING ARTICLE 3 ZONING DISTRICT SECTION 28-6.LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, LI TO ARTICLE 3 ZONING DISTRICT SECTION 28-43, SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE RESIDENTIAL 20 DISTRICT.
SF 20 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF HAMILTON, TEXAS, PROVIDING A SEPARABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING A PENALTY, AND PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE ONE ACRE OF LAND ON THE EAST SIDE OF BUCHTA ROAD, JUST NORTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, FROM THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE 20 ZONING DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER.
THE PROPOSED REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND IS SUPPORTED BY A COUPLE OF POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WILL HAVE NO REAL IMPACT AT ALL ON THE MOBILITY PLAN AND IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE USES AND ZONING IS IN THE AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL THE 1ST AND UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING.
>> OKAY. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, SO COUNCIL.
>> MAYOR, MOVE WE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING PLEASE, SIR.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE [NOISE] HOSPITAL ORDINANCE CHANGE? IF THE OWNER WOULD LIKE, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
[LAUGHTER] SECOND CALL? THIRD CALL? COUNSEL.
>> MR. MAYOR, A MOVE WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES.
I GET IT, MA'AM, I WAS NEVER A PUBLIC SPEAKER MYSELF.
OKAY. NOW WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM.
>> YOU'D BE BUILDING YOUR PERSONAL HOME ON IT? IS IT BIGGER THAN 40-FOOT? [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
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[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] RATHER APPROVE THAT.>> IT'S AUTOMATICALLY T HERE I THINK BY 40 OVER HERE.
>> YOU, GUYS YOU ALL LOOK FUNNY. I LOVE YOU THOUGH.
RUN DOWN BUCHTA, ALL THE WAY DOWN.
>> MA'AM, CAN YOU GIVE THEM THE MIC, PLEASE? [LAUGHTER]
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S OKAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION? [NOISE]
>> I WAS TOLD THAT WE WILL GET CITY WATER.
WE WON'T GET GAS, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE PROPANE.
>> OKAY. SO WATER LANDS HERE, AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHIME IN ON WHERE DOES WATERLINE RUN OVER THERE?
>> TOO BAD JEFF'S NOT HERE. [OVERLAPPING] I THINK IT JUST GOES DOWN TO AUSTIN, DOESN'T IT?
>> I REALLY CAN'T ANSWER EITHER OF YOUR QUESTIONS ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP MY HEAD WHERE THE WATER AND SEWERS IN THAT AREA.
>> HI, YEAH. JUST LOOKING AT THE EXISTING GIS MAP ON THE CITY WEBSITE, IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S WATER AND SEWER IN THAT AREA, AT BUCHTA.
>> WELL, ALL THE WAY DOWN BY THE RAILROAD TRACK?
>> THE WATERLINE IS MAYBE ABOUT 150-200 FEET FROM ME FROM THE TRACKS, AND THEN THE SEWER IS MAYBE ABOUT 100 FOOT OFF FROM THERE NORTH OF THE TRACKS.
>> IT WAS JUST A GENERAL QUESTION, JUST WONDERING [MUSIC] HOW CLOSE IF WE HAD WATER AND SEWER IN THAT AREA.
DOESN'T AFFECT THE WAY I VOTE ANYWAY.
>> YOU KNOW, MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT IS DOWN THERE, I WONDER IF WE SUPPLY THERE.
>> THERE'S THE MAN THAT KNOWS.
[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] HE HEARD ME.
>> HERE FOR INSTANCE. [LAUGHTER]
>> IS THE WATERLINE, SEWER LINE GO ALL THE WAY TO THE RAILROAD OVER THERE OFF BUCHTA OR DOES IT STOP AT AUSTIN?
>> IT GOES ALMOST TO THE TRACKS, BUT IT TURNS AND GOES THROUGH THE WOODS, RIGHT PAST THE TWO-STOREY HOUSE OVER THERE.
>> I THINK IF THEY OWN SOUTH OF THAT HOUSE, WE GO ABOUT 100 FEET PAST THE HOUSE.
BUT I THINK I'VE SEEN THE OLD LOT, THERE'S NOT TO MAKE IT THROUGH THERE.
>> SANITARY SEWER IS ACCESSIBLE WHETHER IT'S IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE ORDINATES NUMBER 20210413-027 REZONING CHAPTER 28, ZONING ARTICLE 3 ZONING DISTRICTS SECTION 28-60, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO ARTICLE 3 ZONING DISTRICTS SECTION 243, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE RESIDENTIAL 20 DISTRICT.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE].
ANY COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE ONE.
JUST BY LOOKING AT THE MAP HERE, THERE COULD BE THE POTENTIAL THAT SOMETHING COULD COME AROUND YOU THAT COULD FIT IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
IS THAT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ON THERE? THERE COULD BE THAT POTENTIAL. NO?
>> THAT'S ON MY PARENT'S PROPERTY.
[LAUGHTER] AT ONE POINT, THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU ALL AND POSSIBLY ALSO WILL ADD A REZONE.
>> WE WERE GETTING READY TO CLOSE SO THAT WE COULD BUILD OUR HOUSE BACK IN FEBRUARY, AND THE BUILDER CAME, AND THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT WHOLE TRIANGLE RIGHT THERE IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
SO MY DAD SAYS, "I'M ONLY GOING TO EVER HAVE COWS ON THERE, I WON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT." SO I'LL EITHER COME BACK AND HAVE THEM DO IT AG OR I'LL CHANGE IT TO RESIDENTIAL WHERE THEY'RE NOT EVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, PLUS ALL OF THE TRUCKS WILL HIGH CENTER OVER THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS.
>> GOT YOU. WE'LL JUST LOOK AT THAT.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU REALIZE, BUT NOW YOU ARE THE OWNER, I'M SURE MAYBE THE PROPERTY, HAVING FORBID THAT THEY MOVE AWAY FROM THE EARTH, THAT PROPERTY WILL STAY WITH THE FAMILY, THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT.
MOVING ON NUMBER 26, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSSION AND
[28. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210413- 028 adopting the "Downtown Angleton Livable Center Study".]
POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210413-028, ADOPTING THE DOWNTOWN ANGLETON LIVABLE CENTER STUDY.[02:35:03]
>> YES, MAYOR, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE, AND I HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS.
AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ADOPT THE DOWNTOWN ANGLETON LIVABLE CENTER STUDY AS A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MARTHA WHO'S PROBABLY GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> WE'RE TRYING TO GET DAWN UP, SHE'S GOING TO SHARE HER SCREEN.
DAWN WORK WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS IS ON THE LINE AND HAS BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.
WE DID TAKE THIS TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEY APPROVED MOVING IT FORWARD TO ADOPTED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
CAN YOU VERIFY THAT YOU'RE SEEING THE CORRECT SCREEN WITH THE SLIDESHOW?
>> WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE SCREEN ON, DAWN, WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT WE JUST CAN'T SEE YOU YET.
>> OKAY. JUST GIVE ME A GREEN LIGHT WHEN YOU'RE READY.
>> YOU HAVE THE RIGHT VISUAL THERE?
>> IT'S THE START SCREEN WITH THE LIVABLE CENTER STUDY.
>> EXCELLENT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PEREZ, CITY COUNCILORS.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME SOME TIME TO PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE COMPLETED LIVABLE CENTER STUDY PROJECT FOR DOWNTOWN ANGLETON.
I'M AN URBAN PLANNER WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS.
OUR TEAM WAS ENGAGED TO LEAD THE PLANNING PROCESS AND DEVELOP THIS LIVABLE CENTER STUDY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY UP FRONT THAT I APPRECIATE THE ENTHUSIASM, THE INTERESTS, AND THE DEDICATION THAT YOUR STAFF TEAM HAS SHARED WITH THIS PROJECT.
MARTHA, CHRIS, MEGHAN, WALTER, AND JAVIER PARTICULARLY, AND IT'S BEEN A FUN PROJECT AND WE'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE ENTIRE FREESE AND NICHOLS TEAM, AS WELL AS H-GAC AND OUR SUB-CONSULTANTS, MARSH DARCY PARTNERS AND CDS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES.
EVERYONE'S CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE RESULTED IN A HIGH-QUALITY STUDY THAT WE BELIEVE WILL SURFACE TO THE WELL.
THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER PRETTY QUICKLY THIS EVENING.
I COMMITTED TO DO THIS PRESENTATION IN ABOUT 10-15 MINUTES.
IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE, BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOWN FOR.
THIS IS THE STUDY AREA, IT IS YOUR DOWNTOWN, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE THIS LITTLE BIT OF THE OVERVIEW BEFORE, SO WE'LL MOVE A LITTLE BIT QUICKLY THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THE FOUR PHASES OF THE LIVABLE CENTER PLANNING PROCESS INCLUDE: PUBLIC OUTREACH THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT, A FOUNDATIONAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT AT THE BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THE MARKET SITUATION FOR THE STUDY AREA.
THE DEVELOPMENT OF DRAFT CONCEPTS WORKING WITH PARTNER AGENCIES TO TEST THOSE CONCEPTS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS DOABLE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF VARIOUS PARTNERSHIPS, AND THEN A FINALIZATION OF THE PLAN INCLUDING IMPLEMENTATION STEPS.
THIS PROJECT TOOK APPROXIMATELY 10 MONTHS, SO THE TIMELINE HERE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH.
PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE DID WANT TO PROCEED WITH THIS COMING THROUGH THE ADOPTION PROCESS AS AN ORDINANCE, SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF EXTRA STEPS ADDED IN THERE.
I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT, WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, INCLUDING ALMOST 200 PARTICIPANTS IN AN ONLINE SURVEY, PRESENTATIONS TO THE LOCAL CHAMBER, TO THE ROTARY CLUB, TWO ONLINE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, INPUT BOARDS POSTED AT THE RECREATION CENTER, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BRIEFINGS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS FLIERS AND POSTINGS ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEN WE HAD A STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WAS OUR GUIDE THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, AND THEY MET FIVE TIMES THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE PLANNING PROCESS TO DEVELOP THE PROJECT.
THE RESULTING PLAN INCLUDES THESE MAJOR COMPONENTS AND INTRODUCTION, THE MARKET ASSESSMENT AND EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THOSE AGAIN, ARE BASICALLY THE FOUNDATIONAL INFORMATION PIECES AS WELL AS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PUBLIC INPUT.
THEN REALLY FOCUSING ON THIS BEING AN ACTIONABLE STUDY.
THE MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS AND IMPLEMENTATION COMPONENTS ARE REALLY WHERE THE HEAVY LIFTING OCCURS WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT.
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THE VISION THAT WAS ESTABLISHED FOR DOWNTOWN ANGLETON THROUGH THIS PLANNING PROCESS IS HERE.WHAT WE HEARD WAS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE A VIBRANT DESTINATION FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
SOMETHING THAT'S ECLECTIC AND OFFERS A MIXTURE OF STOREFRONTS, LOCAL RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES, AND A DISTRICT THAT REFLECTS THE AUTHENTIC HISTORIC CHARACTER OF ANGLETON AND ONE THAT IS ACCESSIBLE BY ALL TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION.
THAT FRAMED THE WORKINGS OF THE PROJECT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT VISION AND WORKING WITH THE STUDY AREA, WE STARTED WITH DEVELOPING A SERIES OF CONCEPT ELEMENTS FOR POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD HELP TO EXPRESS THAT VISION THROUGH PHYSICAL CHANGES TO THE STUDY AREA.
WE CALL THIS THE CONCEPTS OVERVIEW.
THERE ARE ABOUT 13 SPECIFIC CONCEPTS THAT ARE OUTLINED HERE.
THOSE BECOME RECOMMENDATIONS LATER ON.
I WILL GO OVER THOSE AS WE MOVE FURTHER INTO THE PRESENTATION.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WAS ONE OF THE KEY INITIAL STEPS [NOISE] THAT WE LOOKED AT.
ALSO, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT ADOPTING THIS AS AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IS AN IMPORTANT STEP TO ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE THE POLICY FOUNDATION TO TAKE ACTION ON PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN WITHIN THE STUDY AREA SO THAT THAT IS ALIGNED APPROPRIATELY WITH YOUR DOWNTOWN LIVABLE CENTER STUDY, AS WELL AS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CURRENTLY HAS ALL OF THIS AREA IDENTIFIED AS A SINGLE TYPE OF LAND USE, SO THIS ALLOWED US TO LOOK AT IT IN A LITTLE BIT OF A FINER GRAIN OF DETAIL.
ONCE THE FUTURE LAND USE WAS IDENTIFIED AND FLESHED OUT, AND WE ALSO HAD THOSE CONCEPTS THAT WE KNEW WERE STARTING TO EVOLVE AS KEY PROJECTS, THAT WOULD HELP TO EXPRESS THE VISION OF THE PROJECT OF THE PLAN, THE MASTER PLAN EVOLVED.
THIS IS WHAT WE CALL AN ILLUSTRATIVE MASTER PLAN.
IT IS NOT FULLY ENGINEERED, BUT IT DOES DEMONSTRATE THAT THE PROJECTS AND THE CONCEPTS THAT HAVE MADE IT INTO THE RECOMMENDATION LIST ARE PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF BEING IMPLEMENTED.
THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM WITHIN THE RIGHTS OF WAY AND IN OTHER AREAS WITHIN THIS STUDY AREA THAT CAN SUPPORT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED.
THIS ALSO EVOLVED THROUGH A HANDS-ON WORKSHOP WITH THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE.
AT ONCE WE HAD THAT INFORMATION, IT WAS ALSO VETTED WITH APPROPRIATE PARTNER AGENCIES INCLUDING TXDOT, H-GAC, THE DRAINAGE DISTRICTS, THE TRANSIT PROVIDER, AND CITY AND COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES, SO THAT WE HAD A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT PARTNER AGENCIES MAY HAVE WITH REGARD TO COMMENTS, PROJECTS THAT COULD BE LEVERAGED, RESOURCES THAT MAY SUPPORT THE [NOISE] OUTCOMES OF THIS STUDY.
ALL OF THAT IS WHAT BUILT INTO THE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU SEE HERE.
I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION COMPONENTS OF THIS STUDY ARE REALLY WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD AND IT'S WHERE WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE DIVIDED INTO THREE SUBJECT CATEGORIES: PLACE-MAKING, TRANSPORTATION, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS.
EACH OF THOSE 14 ITEMS THAT ARE SHOWN AS CONCEPTS ON THE CONCEPT AND MASTER PLANS, ARE PART OF THIS SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
THERE'S AN IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX IN THE PLAN DOCUMENT.
I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO READ ON THE SLIDE.
IT LOOKS BETTER IN THE DOCUMENT, BUT REALLY THE INTENT OF SHOWING YOU THIS IS TO CONNECT THE DOTS, SO TO SPEAK.
THE MASTER PLAN CONCEPTS AND ELEMENTS INTERSECT WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO IT'S A VISUAL WAY TO REFLECT THAT WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLAN, YOU MOVE THE NEEDLE IN ONE OR MORE OF THOSE PLAN ELEMENTS.
A LOT OF THINGS ARE INTERRELATED.
SO LOOKING AT THE PLACE-MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, THESE ARE AGAIN ACTION STEPS THAT WILL CARRY THE STUDY INTO IMPLEMENTATION.
THERE ARE SIX THAT ARE RELATED TO PLACE-MAKING.
THE FIRST BEGINS TO IDENTIFY A KEY STEP IN CODIFYING THE POLICY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE BECOME PART OF YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST TO ENSURE THAT YOU'VE GOT A POLICY SUPPORT FOR CONSIDERING DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE AREA THAT IS NOT PART OF THE PUBLIC REALM.
A LOT OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE OCCURRING WITHIN THE PUBLIC REALMS. THE CITY HAS FULL CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS THERE
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AND FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR A LOT OF IMPLEMENTATION.BUT WHEN IT COMES TO LAND USE, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND PERMITTED USES, SHAPE THE PHYSICAL SPACE AND THE FORM OF THE DISTRICT, AND THEY'LL BE THERE FOR GENERATIONS.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT FRAMEWORK ESTABLISHED UPFRONT.
FROM THERE YOU CAN THEN REALLY LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THE PUBLIC REALM.
ONE RECOMMENDATION IS TO UTILIZE ALLEYWAYS WHICH ARE UNDERUTILIZED SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC CURRENTLY.
IF IT IS CLEANED UP AND TRICKED OUT A LITTLE BIT, [NOISE] IT CAN PROVIDE AN EXTENSION OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE STUDY AREA AND JUST ALLOW FOR AN INTERESTING AND VIBRANT GATHERING SPACE.
FRONT STREET IS ANOTHER LOCATION WITHIN THE PUBLIC REALM IN THE STUDY AREA THAT IS UNDERUTILIZED AND HAS SOME OPPORTUNITIES.
YOU'LL SEE A FEW DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO FRONT STREET REALIGNING AND ALSO LOOKING AT A LINEAR PARK CONCEPT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WITH THE WIDE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG FRONT STREET AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE FRONT STREET AS A FRONT DOOR TO THE DISTRICT AND THE ABILITY TO DRAW PEOPLE IN VIA THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN.
WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF CONCEPTS.
THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU SAW JUST A MOMENT AGO SHOWED THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE DISTRICT IDENTIFIED AS A LINEAR PARK.
ONE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION IS TO USE EITHER THE FULL LENGTH OR SECTIONS OF FRONT STRAIGHT AS PEDESTRIAN ONLY SPACE, THAT MAY BE FOR EVENTS.
IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT BECOMES MORE PERMANENT.
BUT IT'S A CONCEPT THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE TO STAGE ACTIVITIES AND TO PROGRAM THAT SPACE SO THAT IT FUNCTIONS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST AS A SERVICE ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN.
VETERANS PARK IS A GREAT ASSET THAT THE CITY HAS WITHIN THE STUDY AREA.
IT PLAYS A CENTRAL ROLE IN A GATHERING PLACE FOR THE DOWNTOWN AND IT'S IN A GREAT LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S BETWEEN THE COUNTY DISTRICT AND THE MORE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING DISTRICTS OF THE AREA.
ENHANCING OPPORTUNITIES, EXPANDING VETERANS PARK AS WELL AS ENHANCING PROGRAMMING FOR THAT LOCATION IS SOMETHING THAT IS RECOMMENDED.
ALSO IMPLEMENTING GATEWAYS AND BRANDING.
WE KNOW THAT THE CITY'S GONE THROUGH A BRANDING UPDATE RECENTLY.
IN FACT, YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE THE OLDER LOGO ON OUR MATERIALS BECAUSE IT'S NEW.
USING THAT INFORMATION AND EXPANDING THE BRANDING OF DOWNTOWNS THROUGH WAY-FINDING SIGNS, WHETHER THAT'S SPECIFIC, DIRECTIONAL SIGNS OR BANNERS, OTHER PUBLIC ART, OTHER THINGS THAT CAN DRAW PEOPLE INTO THE DISTRICT AND CREATE INTERESTS.
UPDATING LANDSCAPE STANDARDS: THERE'S A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN RIGHTS OF WAY.
IT MAY BE THAT YOU'RE PLANNING SERVICES CONTRACT CAN INCORPORATE SOME OF THIS AS PART OF THAT SCOPE SINCE I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON YOUR MINDS AT THIS POINT.
BUT ESTABLISHING SOME STANDARDS SO THAT THERE'S CONSISTENCY.
BUT ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN COMFORT AS WELL AS AESTHETICS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THIS MAKES IT EASIER AND MORE ENJOYABLE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK AROUND AND ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO PARK AND EXPLORE AND KEEP PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT GENERATING REVENUE, IDEALLY.
THE NEXT GROUP IS THE TRANSPORTATION RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE HERE.
AGAIN, THIS IS LOOKING AT FRONT STREET, RECONFIGURING THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.
IF IT IS ALLOCATED SOLELY FOR VEHICLES, THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY INCORPORATE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING.
THERE ARE WAYS TO ALIGN THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS THAT YOU HAVE SHARED OR DEDICATED SPACE FOR PEOPLE ON BICYCLES AS WELL AS PEDESTRIANS.
WE INCORPORATED SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT MAY BE EITHER INTERIM OR PERMANENT SOLUTIONS TO IMPROVING THE USABILITY OF FRONT STREET.
PUBLIC PARKING AREAS WAS ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS REALLY OCCURRING IS THERE'S PARKING IN THIS DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT IT'S NOT ALL SITUATED AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE BY WAY OF A COMFORTABLE WALK TO THE KEY DESTINATIONS WITHIN DOWNTOWN.
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WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE NEW COUNTY PARKING LOTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.WE DEFINITELY RECOMMEND MAKING GOOD USE OF THAT.
THE COUNTY'S WILLING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE AVAILABLE.
ALSO, WHEN ADDITIONAL PARKING IS PROPOSED, THE CONCEPT IS TO TAP THAT PARKING INTO THE CENTER OF LOTS, NEAR BLOCKS, WHERE YOU CAN SO THAT YOUR PARKING IS NOT TAKING UP THE FRONTAGE, THE STRAIGHT EDGE WHERE IDEALLY, YOU WOULD HAVE BUILDINGS CREATING MORE OF A STREET WALL.
AGAIN, IT'S A COMFORTABLE WALK AND IT CREATES A BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR PEDESTRIANS.
WE ARE IN A COUPLE RECOMMENDATIONS FORWARD, WE'LL TALK ABOUT PRIMARY AND SECONDARY CORRIDORS, VELASCO AND MULBERRY BEING PRIMARY AND ONE OF THE PROPOSALS INCLUDES REMOVAL OF SOME OF THE ODD STREET PARKING ON VELASCO FOR A COUPLE OF BLOCKS.
THESE SOLUTIONS FOR INCORPORATING PUBLIC PARKING AREAS WOULD HELP TO MITIGATE ANY LOSS OF PARKING FROM THAT.
A DOWNTOWN LOOP NETWORK IS ALSO RECOMMENDED.
THIS IS A WAY TO PROVIDE SHARED OR DEDICATED FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE ON BIKES SO THAT THEY CAN NAVIGATE AROUND THE DISTRICT AND IT ALLOWS GOOD CONNECTIONS TO ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA USING BICYCLES.
THIS I MENTIONED THAT ESTABLISHING PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ENHANCED CORRIDORS AND THIS REALLY CALLS FOR ESTABLISHING A SERIES OF AMENITIES ON PRIMARY AND SECONDARY STREETS.
VELASCO AND MULBERRY, AS I MENTIONED, ARE THE PRIMARIES AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY CARRY THE LARGEST VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC AND THEY SHOULD BE MONETIZED ACCORDINGLY.
IMPROVING THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS, CROSSWALKS, PLANTINGS, STREET FURNISHINGS AND SIGNAGE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS MAKE THOSE MUCH MORE APPEALING FOR PEOPLE ON THE STREET, PEOPLE WALKING, AS WELL AS PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH THE DISTRICT.
THESE ARE BIG CONNECTORS THAT BRING PEOPLE FROM OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN, SO YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO PLAY THOSE UP AND PLACE THOSE FEATURES.
SECONDARY AND TERTIARY CORRIDORS ARE ALSO ALSO IN NEED OF SOME AMENITIES.
PRIMARILY SIDEWALKS, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE AS A AMMENITIZED AS THE PRIMARY CORRIDORS DO.
WE DID PROVIDE SOME SECTION EXAMPLES AS TO HOW THE ALIGNMENT OF THOSE STREETS CAN BE ADJUSTED TO ALLOW FOR THOSE ENHANCEMENTS.
YOU SEE VELASCO AS A PRIMARY CORRIDOR ON THE LEFT AND PLUM IS JUST IDENTIFIED AS A TYPICAL SECONDARY CORRIDOR ON THE RIGHT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SHARED BICYCLE FACILITIES WITHIN THE STREET.
THERE'S ON STREET PARKING AND ALSO SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.
AGAIN, PLUM'' JUST USE AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE MOST OF THE SIDE STREETS ARE SIMILAR.
I WILL SAY THAT MANY OF YOUR STREETS HAVE DIFFERENT RIGHT-OF-WAY WIDTHS AND SO THAT WILL POSE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE IN MAKING EVERYTHING VERY STANDARDIZED.
THEY'LL NEED TO BE SOME CUSTOMIZATION AS THOSE ARE FULLY DESIGNED.
IMPROVEMENTS. BUS STOP FACILITIES, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
WHILE TRANSIT'S NOT HUGE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT MAKING CONNECTIONS AND ALLOWING FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE DISTRICT CORE SERVICES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DESTINATIONS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, AND IDEALLY, WE CAN BRING PEOPLE TO THOSE TRANSIT FACILITIES AND ENSURE BY WAY OF A GOOD, SOLID, CONNECTED SIDEWALK NETWORK, THEY CAN ACCESS THOSE DESTINATIONS SAFELY AND COMFORTABLY.
THIS ALSO PROVIDES CONNECTIONS FOR OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION.
ANYBODY WHO IS A TRANSIT USER IS ALSO A PEDESTRIAN FIRST OR A CYCLIST IF THEY CAN PUT THEIR BIKE ON THE BUS, SO THERE'S JUST A NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE NETWORKS ARE CONNECTED.
THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR FUNDING BECAUSE A LOT OF TRANSIT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE WITHIN CERTAIN RADIUSES OF THOSE FACILITIES BASED UPON THE PROVISION OF APPROPRIATE SIDEWALKS AND OTHER CONNECTIONS TO PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES.
THEN, THE BIG ONE IS TO IMPLEMENT SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
THERE'S A NEED FOR SIDEWALKS WHERE THERE ARE GAPS AND
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TO IMPROVE EXISTING SIDEWALK CONDITIONS GENERALLY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE UPGRADING CROSSWALKS WHERE APPROPRIATE.
I THINK SIDEWALKS ARE REALLY GOING TO BE A GAME-CHANGER, BUT ALSO A PRETTY BIG CHALLENGE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT SPEND TIME THERE, YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME TRIP HAZARDS AND SOME CHALLENGES WITH HEIGHT DIFFERENTIALS THAT WILL JUST MAKE IT PROBABLY A PRETTY FUN PROJECT TO DESIGN BUT IT WILL DEFINITELY TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK TO GET TO THAT POINT.
THE ECONOMIC RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'VE GOT TWO OF THOSE.
THE FIRST IS TO FACILITATE DOWNTOWN COMMERCIAL AND REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE ARE A FEW CATALYTIC SITES, PARTICULARLY AT THE CORNERS OF VELASCO AND MULBERRY THAT ARE CURRENTLY VACANT THAT COULD ANCHOR SOME REAL IMPORTANT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS, AS WELL AS A VACANT SITE AT THE SOUTHWEST END OF VELASCO THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL MARKET OPPORTUNITIES THAT AGAIN, WILL HELP TO CREATE DESTINATIONS AND ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL USES WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT ARE DESIRABLE.
THE LAST IS TO COORDINATE THE CREATION OF A GREATER PEACH STREET DISTRICT.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLANS FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE PEACH STREET FARMERS MARKET, AND SO THERE'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TYPE OF ENTREPRENEURIAL INCUBATOR-TYPE SPACE TO EXPAND INTO MORE OF A DISTRICT THAN JUST A SINGLE LOT DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS INCLUDED.
HOW TO GET ALL OF THESE THINGS DONE WAS THE NEXT FOCUS OF THE STUDY.
IN THE DOCUMENT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS AN IMPLEMENTATION TABLE THAT REALLY RUNS THROUGH EACH OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE SPECIFIC ACTION ITEMS THAT NEED TO OCCUR IN ORDER FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
A PHASE IS IDENTIFIED, SO IT'S EITHER A SHORT, MID, OR LONG-TERM TIMELINE THAT'S ESTIMATED FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED PLANNING LEVEL COST ESTIMATES FOR THE MAJORITY OF THESE PROJECTS, AND SO THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER TOOL THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
WE ALSO UTILIZED INFORMATION THAT MARSH DARCY PARTNERS PUT TOGETHER WITH REGARD TO FUNDING STRATEGIES TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING ALL OF THE VARIOUS PROJECTS.
FINALLY, THERE IS IDENTIFY A LEADING ORGANIZATION AND POTENTIAL PARTNERS SO YOU'LL KNOW WHO IT IS WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR CARRYING THAT RECOMMENDATION THROUGH TO FRUITION AND WHO THEY CAN LEVERAGE OR RELY UPON TO PARTNER AND HOPEFULLY BRING TOGETHER THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE.
I MENTIONED THAT WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES FOR FUNDING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID LEARN IS THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE FUNDING STRATEGIES THAT COULD BE EMPLOYED WITHIN THIS DISTRICT AND FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED.
MANY OF THEM CAN BE FUNDED THROUGH MULTIPLE SOURCES, SO IT'LL BE IMPORTANT FOR STAFF AND ANYONE WHO'S WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS STUDY TO BE AWARE OF THESE VARIOUS FUNDING STRATEGIES AND TRY TO ALIGN PROJECTS WITH THOSE AS FUNDING CYCLES COME AVAILABLE FOR THINGS LIKE GRANTS OR OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS GOOD STRATEGIES FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
ANOTHER PIECE THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO ADVANCE WAS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU MUST GO THROUGH [NOISE] THEM SEQUENTIALLY.
IT'S PROBABLY MORE ABOUT OPPORTUNITY AND WHEN OPPORTUNITY ARISES FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF PROJECTS AND THAT'S WHERE THE PRIORITIZATION PLAN COMES INTO EFFECT.
WHAT WE REALLY FEEL LIKE THE SYNERGY WITHIN THIS DISTRICT IS CENTRALIZED AROUND THE GOVERNMENT HUB TOWARDS THE NORTH-CENTRAL AREA AND THE COMMERCIAL HUB AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS BOTH OF THOSE KEY DESTINATIONS AND COMFORTABLY MOVE ABOUT BETWEEN THEM, AND SO THAT MEANS PROVIDING THE NECESSARY PARKING, THE GATHERING SPACE, AMENITIES, AND OPEN SPACE, THINGS LIKE VETERAN'S PARK AND IMPROVED SIDEWALK CONDITIONS SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO COME ACCESS ONE DESTINATION AND THEN LEAVE THE DISTRICT BUT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEND THE DAY AND BUILD MORE INTO A VISIT THAN JUST ONE TRIP.
WITHIN THE DOCUMENT, WITHIN THE IMPLEMENTATION SECTION, WE DID IDENTIFY THINGS THAT WE FEEL LIKE ARE YOUR QUICK START ITEMS. SOMETIMES WE REFER TO THOSE AS LOW-HANGING FRUIT.
THE THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS REALLY ALREADY INITIATED
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YOUR MARKETING AND BRANDING EFFORTS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO VETERANS PARK.WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY INITIATED, AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AS EARLY WINS IN THE IMPLEMENTATION EFFORTS RELATED TO THE STUDY.
IT'S AN AMBITIOUS SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT WILL REQUIRE SUPPORT AND DILIGENT EFFORTS TO RAISE AWARENESS AND ALSO TO ALLOCATE NECESSARY RESOURCES IN ORDER FOR IMPLEMENTATION TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
THE MESSAGE HERE IS TO WATCH FOR OPPORTUNITIES WHEN PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT HAVE PROJECTS OR PROGRAMS THAT COULD BE EXPANDED OR IMPROVED AND TO ADDRESS YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE STUDY AND LEVERAGE ALL OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU POSSIBLY CAN.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THERE BE A CHAMPION OR A KEEPER OF THE PLAN, SOMEONE OR A GROUP THAT CAN CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THE PLAN AND KEEP IT ALIVE FOR DECISION-MAKERS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY.
INITIALLY, THAT CHAMPION CAN COLLECTIVELY BE THE STAFF TEAM AS WELL AS THE STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WAS ASSEMBLED TO GUIDE THE PROCESS.
ONE OF THE OTHER TOOLS THAT WAS CREATED, THE CITY WILL HAVE A COPY BUT IT'LL ALSO BE HOUSED WITH HDAC AS AN IMPLEMENTING PARTNER, IT'S WHAT'S CALLED THE PROJECT TRACKER.
[NOISE] THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE COST ESTIMATES FOR EACH OF THE RECOMMENDED PROJECTS.
THERE'S ALSO A GIS DATA LAYER THAT IS MAPPED SO THAT AS PROJECTS ARE IMPLEMENTED, YOU CAN TRACK THAT AND IT WILL HELP WITH REPORTING, AND IT SHOULD ALSO HELP IN ACQUIRING GRANTS OR OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT YOU'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD WAY OF MONITORING PROGRESS AND MAINTAINING THAT INFORMATION OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR IMPLEMENTATION.
THE ENTIRE DISTRICT IS POSITIONED TO EVOLVE INTO A UNIQUE AND ACTIVE DOWNTOWN.
THIS STUDY BUILDS ON THE CORE OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY NEAR CITY HALL AND THE INTERSECTION OF MULBERRY AND VELASCO.
IT FOCUSES ON MAKING CONNECTIONS FOR ALL KINDS OF USERS BETWEEN THIS KEY AREA AND THEN DESTINATIONS IN AND AROUND THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE TO THE NORTH.
IT'LL REQUIRE THE CITY TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WORKING THE PLAN.
THE END PRODUCTS WILL TAKE SOME TIME.
IT WON'T JUST MATERIALIZE, BUT WE THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE THAT THESE PROJECTS ONCE THEY'RE IMPLEMENTED WILL REALLY TRANSFORM AND REVITALIZE THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND THE FUTURE FOR DOWNTOWN IS REALLY BRIGHT.
WITH THAT, I'LL JUST ADD THAT IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT WITH THE CITY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MARK, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? NO?
WHEN I WROTE THIS GRANT, IT WAS PROBABLY THREE YEARS AGO, SO TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION IS A BIG DEAL.
I'D LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK AFTER SEEING AND HEARING EVERYTHING.
>> THANK YOU. JUST LOOKING BACK AT OUR AGENDA PART OF IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN OF COURSE DISCUSSION PLUS ACTION GOES ALONG WITH THIS PRESENTATION.
WE'LL BACKTRACK JUST A SECOND, AND THEN MAYBE OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS TO BE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING SIDE.
COUNCIL, WE'LL HEAR SOMEBODY ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> MAKE THE MOTION OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
THAT MUCH APPEARS, WE'RE DOWN A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY WANT TO TALK, ASK A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE'VE JUST SEEN, FEEL FREE TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ASK A QUESTION, AND OF COURSE, COUNCIL, YOU GUYS AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. CHRIS.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CODIFY THIS.
IT'S NOT JUST TO STUDY AND A PLAN.
DAWN AND THE TEAM DID A GREAT JOB CREATING ACTIONS OUT OF IT, IF IT'S REZONING, IF IT'S CLOSING FRONT STREET, IF IT'S SIDEWALKS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT NOW WE'VE GOT SOMETHING TO USE TO GO AFTER, PRIORITIZING GO AFTER.
FOR EXAMPLE, MARTHA IS KEEPER OF THE PLAN OR SOMETHING, THAT BECOMES PART OF THE SIP, BECOME PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, THEN WE GO AFTER IT THROUGH EITHER ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION LIKE AN ORDINANCE OR AGAIN,
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SEEK FUNDING THROUGH THE VARIOUS SOURCES WHICH THEY'VE HELPED US IDENTIFY.ITEM NUMBER 34, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES, AGAIN, ADDRESS AS PART OF THAT.
IT'S ABOUT WALK ABILITY DOWNTOWN, IT'S ABOUT APPEARANCE, IT'S ABOUT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
AS DAWN TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT AND THAT'S WORKING TO OUR ADVANTAGE IF WE END UP GETTING THAT GRANT.
BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ADOPT THIS SO THAT WE'VE GOT THAT LEGAL BACKING FROM YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO AND NOT JUST SOME GOOD IDEAS AND THEN WE THROW IT ON THE SHELF.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE DO AT THE CORPORATE AT PLAN NOW OR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE ADOPTED FOUR YEARS AGO.
WE'VE LOOKED AT IT EVERY OTHER YEAR TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AND DO WE CHANGE.
THIS WOULD JUST FIT RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT, STICK IT IN WITH THAT SO IT CAN BE A REVIEWABLE DOCUMENT THAT MAKE SURE WE ARE MEETING AND CHECKING THE BOXES OR STOP THE BOX AND GO TO ANOTHER BOX, SO ON AND SO.
WE'RE NOT JUST SPENDING MONEY ON A STUDY AND THEN SITS ON THE SHELF AND COLLECTS DUST.
>> I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY THAT TOOK THE TIME TO INVEST THEIR TIME AND ENERGIES INTO THIS IDEAS.
I BELIEVE PEOPLE PUT FORTH THEIR BEST IDEAS.
I DO THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY GREAT IDEAS IN HERE.
THIS IS JUST A GENERAL VIEW, SPECIFICALLY AS TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE LAID OUT DURING THE PRESENTATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO FOLLOW WHAT WE CAN BY DOING THE JOB AS THE SET RIGHT THERE AT THE PRESENTATION AND DOING WHAT WE CAN TO GET THOSE "LOW HANGING FRUITS", WHATEVER INVESTMENTS AVENUES WE CAN GO TO PROCURE IN A WAY THAT OBVIOUSLY, LEAST TAXES FOR THE PEOPLE.
[LAUGHTER] IF THERE'S GRANTS AND OTHER FUNDS OUT THERE SEEKING THOSE FUNDING AVENUES AND REVENUE SOURCES WITHOUT COMING TO THE CITY JUST YET, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T BE A PARTNER AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
BUT LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE CAN GET, WHAT'S OUT THERE OR SOMETHING.
I BELIEVE IN MARTHA AND HER TEAM AND CITY HALL AND PEOPLE IN THESE OFFICES CAN DO JUST THAT.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE?
>> I WAS REALLY DRAWN TO THE REUSE OF FRONT STREET ON TXDOT DESIGN, THE BYPASS AND PUT FRONT STREET IN OVER THERE.
SINCE IT WAS PUT IN AS WELL, PROBABLY WAS LEAST USED PIECES OF PAVEMENT IN ANGLETON.
I JUST HOPE THAT TXDOT IS AGREEABLE TO RELINQUISHING THEIR HOLD ON FRONT STREET SO THAT THIS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.
I SEE A TXDOT PERSON WHO WAS PART OF THE STAKEHOLDER'S GROUP.
>> WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK DO WE GET? ARE THEY ON BOARD WITH THIS?
>> YES, SIR. THEY WERE PART OF THE SAC, FRONT STREET IS ACTUALLY A CITY STREET.
>> FRONT STREET JUST THROUGH, FRONT STREET RIGHT AWAY WITH THE CITY RIGHT AWAY, BUT IT WAS CONSTRUCTED AND PROBABLY MAINTAINED BY TXDOT.
I'M JUST ASKING IF WE TOUCH BASE WITH THEM TO SEE IF THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH THIS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT LENGTH, ABOUT THE LOW USE AND HOW HAVING A LINEAR PARK THERE, HAVING THE LARGE HEART, WHICH WE THOUGHT WOULD BE THE GATEWAY TO DOWNTOWN AND HOW WE COULD IMPLEMENT THAT FOR PROGRAMMING.
YES, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THEM.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMAN SVOBODA, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
>> NO. JOHN LOOKS LIKE HE DOES.
>> WE'RE IN PUBLIC HEARING, I'M ALLOWING ANYBODY AT THIS POINT TO ASK COMMENTS.
>> WE ALWAYS KNOW JOHN HAS A QUESTION OR TWO OR COMMENT.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT? THERE'S NO RUSH TO THE PODIUM, IT'S YOURS.
>> ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, BUT IF NOBODY'S GOING TO, I WILL GO AHEAD AND START MY QUESTIONS.
I GOT TO BE A PART OF THIS FROM THE VERY START.
THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT I WAS VERY ADAMANT.
I HEARD WHAT SHE SAID, CHRIS, ABOUT CODIFYING THIS,
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AND IT SCARES ME BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'D BE IN THE SAME POSITION AS WELL YOU ALREADY HAVE A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS.I'M NOT ON BOARD WITH ALL THESE ITEMS. FOR ME, IT WOULD BE TOUGH TO TAKE ACTION AND ADOPT THIS TONIGHT.
THEN YOU COME AND HIT ME OVER THE HEAD WITH IT A YEAR LATER AND GO, "YOU VOTED FOR THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO." I'LL LAY OUT MY ISSUES STILL IS FRONT STREET, AND I PROBABLY DISAGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BOOTH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE FRONT STREET CLOSED.
I BELIEVE IT CAN HAVE A USE IN THE LONG TERM.
I DID LIKE THE ALTERNATIVE THOUGH WITH THE PARKING ON FRONT STREET MAKING IT ONE WAY. I LIKE ALL THAT.
BUT WE HAVE TRASH TRUCKS, WE HAVE PEOPLE USING THE BANK, AND IF ANY OF THAT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE BEHIND EL PATIO DEVELOPS, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED SOME WAY OF GETTING IN OVER THERE.
ALSO, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ADDING ANOTHER PARK AT THIS POINT SO I DON'T WANT MAKING THEM COME TO ME IN A YEAR AND A HALF AND SAY, "WELL, REMEMBER WHEN YOU ADOPTED THAT PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS LINEAR PARK IN AND NOW WE NEED TO HAVE FUNDING FOR IT." I BELIEVE WE HAVE ENOUGH TO DO RIGHT NOW WITH OUR CURRENT PARKS COMING IN.
THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS, BUT ALSO IN BACK OF MY MIND, I'D HEAR WATER, INFRASTRUCTURE, STREETS AND THINGS THAT.
CITY CAN PARTNER, I'M ALL FOR.
WE NEED TO FIX THE SIDEWALKS AROUND THAT AREA, WE NEED TO FIX THE ROADWAYS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY TAKING ON MORE IN THE WAY OF OTHER ITEMS, I'M LEERY ABOUT THAT.
WE'VE DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS BEFORE, WE'VE PUT IT ON A SHELF, AND THEN WE CAME BACK AND SPENT MONEY AGAIN TO DO THE EXACTLY THE SAME THING WE DID BEFORE, ON GRANDER SCALE IN THIS CASE, TRYING TO IDENTIFY A WAY TO REINVIGORATE THE DOWNTOWN.
BUT I REALLY THINK REINVIGORATION STARTS WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE PUT THEIR MONEY AND TIME AND EFFORT INTO THAT DOWNTOWN AREA AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN PARTNER WITH AND HELP.
BUT ULTIMATELY, IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHT TO BUILD THERE OR NOT BUILD THERE.
THE LAST ONE IS THE BIKE LANES.
USING THE RIGHT OF WAYS FOR BIKES, I DON'T WANT TO PUT BIKES ON THE ROADWAY.
I THINK PUTTING THE SIDEWALKS BIGGER, LIKE I SAW IN THE FRONT STREET DESIGN WHERE THE SIDEWALK WAS LITTLE WIDER, THAT WOULD DO THAT, I'M ALL FOR THAT, BUT I REALLY DON'T SEE A NEED OF BIKE LANES.
JUST THE UTILIZATION, I DON'T THINK IS WORTH THE COST AT THIS POINT.
>> AS A PERSON WHO RIDES BIKES I'D RATHER RIDE IN THE ROAD THAN ON THE SIDEWALK WITH PEDESTRIANS.
>> BUT THEY MAKE THEM AT THE WIDER.
>> YEAH, BUT STILL, I'D RATHER OBEY THE ROAD LAWS ON A BIKE THAN TO RIDE ON THE SIDE WALK.
>> MY QUESTION IS, IF WE QUANTIFY THIS, IS THIS SEEN AS NECESSARILY LIKE THIS MUST GO HERE, THIS MUST GO HERE, OR IS THIS SEEN AS A ROAD MAP OR A GENERAL IDEA PHILOSOPHY, IF YOU WILL?
>> I THINK YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S IN THE PLAN LIKE JOHN SAID.
BUT EVERYTHING'S SUBJECT TO MODIFICATION AND WE CAN GO BACK AND CHANGE THE PLAN.
WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WITH THE CITY AND OTHER CITIES I'VE BEEN IN WHERE THERE WAS A PLAN AND WE ADOPTED THAT SO IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO BYPASS, THEN WE GET RID OF THAT OR WE MIX THE FRONT STREET THING OR MAYBE IT'S A COMPROMISE OF THAT BECOMES A POP-UP PART WHERE WE CAN SAY WE'RE GOING TO BLOCK IT OFF.
FOR EXAMPLE, JUST IN WHERE THE PARKING IS AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE IT FOR CERTAIN EVENTS AND IT'S OPEN THE REST OF THE TIME.
>> IS THERE SOME LANGUAGE YOU CAN PUT IN THERE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIZATION TOO.
I THINK WE CAN COME BACK AND LOOK AT THE SHORT-TERM OBJECTIVES FIRST, THE THINGS WE CAN DO QUICKLY, AND SAY, "COUNCIL NOW WE'RE PEELING THIS BACK A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS? WHAT'S THE PRIORITY?" THEN WE GO AFTER IT.
IF IT'S CHANGING ZONING AND WE ALL AGREE, LET'S DO THAT.
IF IT'S NOT CLOSED FROM THE STREET, THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE.
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WE CAN GO BACK AND MODIFY THAT.>> ANNOUNCE MEMBER. SIMPLY PUT A PLAN WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN ANGLE TO IT AND LIVABLE CENTERS STUDY OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IS A DOCUMENT THAT'S USED TO GUIDE AND HELP IN DECISION-MAKING IN THE AREA OF THE PLAN.
YES, THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN.
YES, THERE'S AN IMPLEMENTATION SEGMENT OF THE PLAN, BUT THE CITY GETS TO DECIDE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO IMPLEMENT? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO HERE? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THERE? IF SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A LAND-USE PROPOSAL FOR AN AREA THAT'S IN THIS STUDY AND YOU LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN TO HELP THE STUDY AND WHAT THE STUDY SAYS TO HELP DECIDE WHETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO WHAT THAT PROPOSAL MAY BE PROPOSING IN THOSE AREAS.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A TOOL.
THERE WAS 20 PLUS PERSON'S STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THIS.
I'M QUITE SURE THAT NOT EVERY MEMBER AGREES WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE PLAN. I KNOW I DON'T.
>> BUT IT'S HERE'S WHAT EVERYBODY COULD AGREE ON.
THIS IS BASED ON ALL THE INPUT, WHAT WE WANT TO BRING FORWARD AS A PLAN FOR THE DOWNTOWN ANGLETON AREA.
THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT IT THAT IT HAS TO BE THIS OR IT HAS TO BE THAT BECAUSE PLANS HAVE TO BE ADAPTABLE TO WHAT THE SITUATION IS.
SO MAYBE THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN THE PLAN AND THE IMPLEMENTATION SECTION THAT YOU SAY, "OKAY, WE WANT TO DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS".
THEN AFTER YOU DO THAT, YOU SAY, "OKAY, MAYBE WE'LL DO SOME MORE OF THIS AND THIS, AND THIS AND THIS IN THIS AREAS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS".
YOU CAN'T GO ANYWHERE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MAP TO SHOW YOU HOW TO GET THERE AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE PLAN IS, A MAP TO SHOW YOU WHERE YOU CAN GET TO.
>> YEAH, I THINK THIS ONE THING I LIKE ABOUT IT WOULD BE THE IDEA THAT YET AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S AN IDEA IN FUNCTIONALITY IS NOT THE SAME AS AN IDEA, BUT TO HOPEFULLY BRING SOME CONSISTENCY FORWARD WITH SOME GENERAL IDEAS.
I DON'T SEE IT AS A WRITTEN-IN-STONE TYPE OF THING.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S AGAIN, IT'S A MAP.
I GUESS LINES CAN ALWAYS BE REDRAWN.
>> YEAH, I'M NOT SAYING I'M AGAINST THE STUDY AND ADOPTING THIS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M VERY CLEAR IN MY COMMENTS TONIGHT SO THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T COME BACK AND TELL ME LATER, WELL, YOU VOTED FOR THIS.
WELL, I HAD RESERVATIONS ABOUT CERTAIN ITEMS, SO I'LL MAKE SURE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND ON THIS COUNSEL HEAR THEM.
BUT I MEAN, REALLY WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PARK LANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR YOUR BUSINESSES.
>> I'M A LITTLE BIASED. I LIKE IT.
I WANT TO DO IT ALL. I THINK FRONT STREET IS USELESS RIGHT NOW.
>> RIGHT NOW IT IS. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN AREAS THAT CAN BE REMADE AND I WOULD HATE TO TAKE ENCLOSE A STREET THAT THEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET ACCESS TO LATER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DON'T SEE I SEE ALL THAT NEW. IT'S ALREADY BUILT OUT.
SO WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE MORE OF USE?
>> I FEEL LIKE FRONT STREET IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ADDRESS AT THE END AFTER THERE IS MORE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH MORE DEVELOPMENT THAN WHAT IS ALREADY THERE [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT BEHIND EL PATIO.
I THINK THERE'S SOME LOTS OVER THAT AREA THAT DOWN THAT PART [OVERLAPPING]
>> THINK ABOUT THAT THEIR PARKING THEY JUST BUILT.
>> THEN THEY CAN ACCESS IT RIGHT BY EL PATIO. I LOVE THE IDEA.
I LOVE PARKS AND I LOVE THE IDEA.
[OVERLAPPING] I THINK IT WOULD REALLY LOOK GREAT.
>> IT COULD LOOK GREAT. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU.
MY CONCERN IS THAT WHEN YOU DO SHUT DOWN A ROAD, YOU LOSE YOUR ROAD.
>> I THINK ONCE THE SIDEWALKS ARE ADDRESSED ON VELASCO AND IT DOES BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE WALK-ABLE, OTHER BUSINESSES MAY REALIZE THERE'S OTHER AREAS IN THIS OR OTHER SECTIONS IN THIS AREA TO WHERE THEY CAN BUILD UP, THEY CAN START FROM SCRATCH BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MOST OF THE BUILDINGS ARE OCCUPIED.
THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT ARE ACTUALLY VACANT, I DON'T THINK.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY BUILD NEW STRUCTURES WHICH IS ON FRONT STREET IS WHERE THE MOST AVAILABLE REAL ESTATE IS.
>> EXACTLY. I CAN TELL YOU ON SATURDAY NIGHT WHEN ROY FLOYD'S AND DIRTY SOUTH AND THOSE GUYS ARE GOING,
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I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH THERE AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING THE LOOP AROUND LOOKING FOR PARKING.I KNOW THEY'RE USING FRONT STREET BECAUSE I SEE HIM DOING IT ON SATURDAY NIGHTS.
>> I JUST THINK IF WE GET THE BALL ROLLING, HOWEVER, THE MIGHT THAT IS THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ASSESSED, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIATELY.
IT'S STILL BE IN THE PLAN SUBJECT TO MODIFICATION.
>> ALMOST ANYTHING THAT WE IMPLEMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO US FOR FUNDING OF SOME SORT.
THAT'S JUST THE MECHANISMS RIGHT THERE FOR US TO GET TO OUR APPROVAL.
>> PLUS WE'RE SHUTTING DOWN A CITY STREET.
THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE I'M SURE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> EVEN IF YOU SHUT IT OUT FOR PARKING, IT'S POINTLESS RIGHT NOW. I THINK.
>> I WENT DOWNTOWN FOR 15 STRAIGHT YEARS.
I'VE NEVER SEEN FRONT STREET USED EXCEPT FOR ME TRYING TO SKIP TURN [LAUGHTER]
>> OR GOING THE WRONG WAY. [LAUGHTER]
>> MAKING THE ILLEGAL LEFT-HAND TURN [INAUDIBLE]
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 202-101-413-028, ADOPTING THE DOWNTOWN ANGLETON LIVABLE CENTER STUDY.
>> OH, YEAH. I PROBABLY SHOULD DO THAT.
[LAUGHTER] MR. MAYOR, I MOVE CLOSE WE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PATRICK [INAUDIBLE] SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE] CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULD [OVERLAPPING].
>> NOW, MAYOR [INAUDIBLE] , IF YOU HAVE A MOTION.
>> MR. MAYOR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210413-028, ADOPTING THE DOWNTOWN ANGLETON LIVABLE CENTER STUDY AS PRESENTED, AND IT WILL BE A LIVING DOCUMENT.
>> IT GOES LIKE, MOTION BY MAYOR [INAUDIBLE] , SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
>> YES, I DIDN'T WEIGH IN DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE EVERYONE SAID MOST OF WHAT I WAS READY TO WEIGH IN, BUT HOPEFULLY THE THINGS THAT WERE SAID WERE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING.
I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT WAS PUT IN.
A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO IT.
I HAD NO CONCEPT PRIOR TO THIS, AND I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL IDEA.
WE NEED TO ADOPT IT AS SOON AS I GO ALL INTO IMPLEMENT ANYTHING, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
IT CAN TAKE MONEY, IT CAN TAKE EFFORT, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN THEN YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN.
>> I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
EVERYTHING STILL FLOWS THROUGH COUNCIL. THAT LIST IS LONG.
IF I REMEMBER WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'VE ONLY HAD IT FOR FOUR YEARS AND WE'RE STILL CHECKING BOXES AND MOVING IT AND WE DON'T ALL AGREE.
SOME OF THEM WE HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT AND SAID, MAYBE NOT.
IT WAS THE VISION, IT WAS THE DREAM AND NOW MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT VISION OR DREAM.
SO REST ASSURED, JOHNY, IT WILL COME THROUGH US AND WE'LL HAVE TO HASH IT OUT AND FIGURE IT OUT.
BUT IT'S THE ROADMAP, IT'S THE VISION THAT 20 PEOPLE SAT DOWN AND FIGURED IT OUT WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE [NOISE] , WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT.
ANY MORE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
MOVING ALONG. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.
>> [LAUGHTER] WE'RE GETTING THERE.
>> NUMBER 29, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CREDIT TOWARD PARCHMAN DEDICATION FEES FOR
[29. Discussion and possible action on a credit toward Parkland Dedication Fees for Kiber Reserve Pond by Waterstone Development.]
KIBER RESERVE POND BY WATERSTONE DEVELOPMENT. MS. LINDSAY.>> TWO WEEKS AGO, ON MARCH 30TH, WE MET IN A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO DISCUSS OUTSTANDING ISSUES WITH PENDING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
KIBER RESERVE IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S LOCATED OFF OF ORANGE STREET AND HAS 93 HOMES.
THE DEVELOPERS, WATERSTONE, WHEN THEY PRESENTED THEIR CASE TWO WEEKS AGO, THEY ASKED FOR CONSIDERATION OF FEES RELATED TO IMPROVEMENTS IN THEIR SCOPE OF WORK TO THEIR POND.
ON MARCH 31ST, I RECEIVED A REQUEST LETTER FOR CONSIDERATION OF CREDIT TOWARD PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES IN LIEU FROM WATERSTONE'S CONSULTANT, BAKER AND LAWSON.
WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS A CREDIT IN THE AMOUNT OF $70,614, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE $50,000 PLUS OF ADDITIONAL DIRT WORK,
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PROVISION OF POND SWELLS, $4,900, AND FOUND FEATURE THAT THEY BUDGETED FOR $15,500.I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS AN ESTIMATE IN YOUR PACKET FROM EAGLE FOUNTAIN WORKS FOR $9,239, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU CONSIDER THIS.
I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES IN LIEU AT $575 PER LOT ON 93 LOTS WOULD BE $53,475, SO THEY'RE ASKING OF A CREDIT IN EXCESS OF $17,000 FOR POND IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE TRYING TO BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES ON THE DIRECTION FOR OUTSTANDING ISSUES ON THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT ARE PENDING SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN INTO THESE AGREEMENTS.
SO, COUNSEL, WITH YOUR GUIDANCE, I PRESENT THIS ISSUE TO YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR DIRECTION ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED.
>> THANK YOU, THEREFORE, MS. LINDSAY.
JUST TO QUICKLY RECAP, IF HE WAS TO PAY THE PARK FEE, IT WOULD BE HOW MUCH AGAIN? I'M NOT GOING TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS IN THE NOTES HERE.
>> OKAY, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CHARGE HIM IF WE GIVE HIM THE CREDIT? HE'S ASKING FOR A CREDIT OVER THAT IS HIGHER THAN THAT FEE.
>> ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE DIRECTION FROM THE MARCH 30TH MEETING WAS TO ALLOW PAYMENT CONGRUENT WITH PHASING.
THERE IS TWO PHASES TO THIS PROJECT.
THE FIRST PHASE, I BELIEVE, IS 45 HOMES AND THE SECOND PHASE WAS 48 HOMES.
OF COURSE, THAT NUMBER WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF HOMES.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE THEME OF THIS CONVERSATION THE OTHER NIGHT WAS TO CREDIT ANY MORE THAN THE PARK FEES.
SEE, THE BIG QUESTION WAS THE PARK FEES IN MY MEMORY, AND THE [INAUDIBLE] WAS ASKING, "WELL, WE DUG UPON VAPOR.
WHAT'S THE COST FOR THAT," AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER FOR THAT.
>> I THINK THERE'S A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE GROUP.
>> THERE IS, MR. KEN SHOT WITH WATERSTONE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. COULDN'T REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME.
>> WE WERE NOT ASKING FOR A CREDIT IN EXCESS OF THE PARK FEE.
WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AT THAT MEETING WAS CREDIT FOR EXPENDITURES ON THE WEB DETENTION POND THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PARK FEE, NOT AN EXCESSIVE CREDIT OF THAT.
WE DID DISCUSS THE PARK FEES THAT WE ALL DISCUSSED THAT NIGHT [INAUDIBLE] FEE THAT WE ALL DISCUSSED THAT NIGHT AND ASKED FOR A RESOLUTION ON THAT TOO.
BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARK FEES, IT WAS, WHAT KIND OF CREDIT CAN WE GET FOR THAT? YOU ALL WERE ASKED FOR THE AMOUNTS THAT WE HAD EXPENDED.
THE LETTER FROM MIGUEL, OBVIOUSLY, THE ESTIMATE ON THE FOUNDING THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ELECTRIFICATION THAT WILL BE NECESSARY TO BRING TEXAS AND MEXICO POWER THERE, AS WELL AS TO INSTALL, AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO ESSENTIALLY, WE THOUGHT THE $15,000 WOULD BE A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE FOR THE FOUNTAIN, IN ADDITION TO THE $55,000 WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT DEEPENING THE POND.
LET'S SEE IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN.
I KNOW OUR BRAINS ARE SPINNING RIGHT NOW TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
>> WE HAVE RECEIPTS THAT GO ALONG TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE 50,000 YOU'RE REQUESTING THE CREDIT FOR.
>> THEN [NOISE] I'LL OUTLINE IN HOW MUCH YOU DUG OUT YOUR POND.
>> I'M SORRY. COME TO THE MICROPHONE SWING AGAIN.
>> ALL OF OUR PAYMENTS FOR THE POND HAVE BEEN MADE.
WE CAN PROVIDE COPIES OF THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. HAPPY TO DO THAT.
>> WHY WOULD WE BE REIMBURSING THE SOILS OF $5,000? JUST DON'T EVEN ROUND NUMBERS HERE.
>> I BELIEVE JOHN PETERSON POINTED OUT AT OUR MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO THAT THE SOILS WOULD HAVE BEEN NECESSARY ANYWAY.
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>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
>> BUT WAS IT NOTHING TO DO WITH BECAUSE THEY RAISED THE-
>> THEY RAISED THE PROPERTY SO MUCH.
>> I KNOW THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE WELL WE HAD PUT THE DIRT SOMEWHERE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT IT ON SITE.
THE SOIL WASN'T REQUIRED IF YOU PUT THE DIRT THERE AND I CAN'T SAY HOW THAT HAPPENED BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN REIMBURSING THE SOIL BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE ON EVANS.
EVEN THOUGH EVERY RESIDENT ALONG THERE HAS BEEN COMPLAINING.
THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO FLOOD THE NEXT TIME IT RAINS OVER THERE.
HOPEFULLY, THE SOILS WORK LIKE WE THINK THEY WILL.
>> MR. CECIL, YOU'VE GOT SOME INPUT ON THAT PART?
>> EVERY DEVELOPMENT AROUND THESE NEW ONES THAT ARE GOING IN TODAY ARE CLAIMING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET FLOODED BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO THEM IS HIGHER THAN THEIRS.
I UNDERSTAND IT LOOKS STRANGE WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR BACK DOOR AND YOU SEE LAND ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS DOWN AT YOUR LEVEL, BUT IT'S NOW UP.
BUT THE LAND IS SLOPING TOWARD THE STREET, IT'S SLOPING INLAND, IT'S NOT SLOPING BACK TOWARD THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
I'VE GOT A DEAR FRIEND, THEY'RE ON EVANS STREET.
THEY WERE JUST SURE THAT THEY WERE BEING FLOODED BECAUSE OF THE WATER RUNNING OFF OF KIBER RESERVE.
IT WASN'T, BECAUSE IT WAS COVERED OR CLOGGED UP IN ORANGE STREET AND THE WATER COULDN'T GET OUT, SO THEY HAD WATER BACKED UP IN THEIR STREET AND STUFF.
I GUESS HE COULD HAVE PUT A FOR SALE SIGN OUT THERE, SELLING DIRT, BUT HE PROBABLY DID THE BEST HE COULD.
IT'S A LOT CHEAPER TO PUT IT ON YOUR PROPERTY THAN IT IS TO CARRY IT SOMEPLACE ELSE, ACROSS COUNTY TO DUMP IT SOMEPLACE.
>> DO YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT?
AS CECIL WAS SAYING, TYPICALLY, THE WAY THEY DEVELOP [NOISE] IS THEY'RE BUILDING UP THE PROPERTY BUT THEY'RE SLOPING EVERYTHING BACK IN FRONT TOWARDS THE ACTUAL ROADS.
THE ROADS BECOME PART OF THE COLLECTION SYSTEM CONVEYED TO THE INLETS, INLETS PUT IT INTO THE PIPE, PIPE TAKES IT OUT THE DETENTION POND THEN RELEASED OUT.
AS FAR AS THE SOIL, WHEN YOU DO RAISE UP THAT PROPERTY, YOU STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME DRAINAGE AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF IT TO WHERE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING AT ONE TIME COMING BACK THAT WAY YOU HAVE A WAY OF BEING COLLECTED AND BRINGING IT ON OUT.
THAT WAS WHAT I WAS TALKING TO LINDSAY ABOUT. LINDSAY IS CORRECT ON THAT.
>> EVEN IF THEY HADN'T DUG THE WET PART, IT STILL WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE ROUTINE DETENTION PART AND SPREAD IT OUT ON THE GROUND.
>> THERE'VE BEEN SOME DIRT WORK BACK THERE ON THE WEST SIDE ADJACENT TO THE MCCORMICK SUBDIVISION.
>> THIS 50,000 IS IN ADDITION TO WHAT IT WOULD'VE ORIGINALLY COST FOR THE DETENTION?
>> SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WITH BAKER & LAWSON.
BASICALLY, THE DETENTION POND, WE ENDED UP DIGGING OUT APPROXIMATELY NINE, 9 1/2 FEET DEEP AS OPPOSED TO 4 1/2 FEET POND.
IT'S ABOUT APPROXIMATELY A FOUR-ACRE POND
>> YOU HAD ALWAYS INTENDED TO BUILD A FOUR-ACRE POND THOUGH.
THE SIZE OF THE POND, THAT WAS A CHOICE MADE BY YOU GUYS, RIGHT?
>> AT THE DIRECTION OF THE FORMER CITY MANAGER.
>> NOW THE DEPTH OF THE POND IS THE-
>> BUT NOT THE SIZE OF THE POND.
>> BUT WHEN WE WENT FROM A DETENTION TO A RETENTION, THAT'S WHEN WE TOOK IT FROM 4 1/2 TO NINE FEET.
>> BUT THAT WAS A DEVELOPMENTAL DECISION TO MAKE A FOUR-ACRE POND?
>> AS FAR AS THE DESIGN AND THE LAYOUT, YES.
>> WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TONIGHT HERE IS IF WE'RE GOING TO
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OFFER CREDIT AND HOW MUCH THAT CREDIT IS GOING TO BE.THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT BASED ON THE DOCUMENTATION AND INFORMATION WE'VE GIVEN TONIGHT.
STAFF, DID Y'ALL COME UP WITH A-
>> I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> TO OFFER NO CREDIT BASED ON THE FOUNDATION OF WHICH WE GAVE CREDITS PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WAS ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION.
WE HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALLEGED BETWEEN MR. ALBERT AND MR. VON SCHMIDT.
HE PAYS TO FORM OUT FOR THE PARKLAND FEES IN LIEU, WHATEVER.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> THIS IS ALSO GOING ALONG WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY STAFF.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
>> I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND DEDICATION, IT'S A POND.
IT'S NOT A PLAY AREA, IT'S NOT A SOCCER FIELD, A BLANK SPOT TO WHERE IT CAN ACTUALLY BE UTILIZED AS A PARK AREA.
THAT'S ONE THING I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT.
>> I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S NO USABLE PARKS SOUTH OF RAILROAD TRACKS IN ANGLETON, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKS AND PARK FEES.
>> THE ONLY PARK THAT WAS OVER THAT'S THE CITY POOL HAS BEEN VACATED SO IT'S NO LONGER REALLY USABLE.
>> ANYMORE QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR NO CREDIT SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> I WAS [OVERLAPPING] YES. NO CREDIT.
>> FOUR, TWO. MOTION CARRIES. MOVING ALONG.
ITEM NUMBER 30; PRESENTATION ON AUSTIN COLONY PROJECT. MR. WALTER.
[30. Presentation on the Austin Colony project.]
>> I'M GOING TO BE QUICK. THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE ABOUT DEVELOPERS BEING ABLE TO COME TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO GET ACTIONABLE FEEDBACK ON THEIR PRESENTATIONS.
THE DEVELOPER APPRAISAL PREVIOUSLY BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU WITH A REZONING REQUEST SF 5, THAT PRETTY MUCH GOT ALMOST EVERY COMMENT I THINK IT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY GOTTEN ON THE PROJECT WITHOUT ACTUALLY SHOWING YOU A PRESENTATION OF THE PROJECT.
WHAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT IS A PRESENTATION OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SAW, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, WHICH SHOWS YOU HOW-
>> I WAS HOPING IT WAS DIFFERENT.
>> WHICH SHOWS YOU HOW THE PROJECT HAS EVOLVED SINCE IT WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO US.
HAVING SAID THAT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND THAT FEEDBACK WAS TAKE A LOOK AT THE LOT SIZES.
>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MR. SANDY.
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL AND ALSO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND EACH MEMBER'S TIME TO MEET WITH ME INDIVIDUALLY TO DISCUSS
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THE VARIOUS ISSUES THAT EACH MEMBER HAS WITH THE AUSTIN COLONY PLAN.WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO MAKE IT.
I BELIEVE I'VE MADE IT [LAUGHTER] TO EACH ONE OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.
I TOOK YOUR COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK IN YOUR COMMENTS, AND THEY WERE VERY CLEAR.
THE FIRST ONE WAS YOU DID NOT WANT A SUBDIVISION THAT HAD 100 PERCENT 50 FOOT LOTS.
[NOISE] WE HAVE CHANGED OUR PLAN.
INCIDENTALLY, ROBIN IS HERE AND SO IS DOUG, WITH BECKER AND LAWSON, CAN ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
BUT WE'VE CHANGED OUR PLAN TO WHAT WE PROPOSE THAT WE ONLY HAVE 20 PERCENT OF THE LOTS ARE 50 FEET WIDE.
OUR LOTS ARE 120 FEET DEEP AND WE GOT 20 PERCENT OR 50 FEET WIDE, 42 PERCENT OR 55 FEET WIDE, AND 38 PERCENT OR 60 FEET WIDE.
WE'VE GOT A MIXTURE, WHICH I BELIEVE ALMOST EVERYONE SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MIXTURE.
THE SECOND [NOISE] ISSUE WAS TIGNER BOULEVARD OR TIGNER ROAD.
WITH THAT EXCEPTION, ALMOST EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TIGNER RUN FROM THE BACK OF WALMART STRAIGHT THROUGH TO AND CONNECT SOMEHOW SOME WAY TO BE DETERMINED TO CAR ROAD THEN DOWN TO 44.
YOU COULD LEAVE WALMART ANGRY BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T GET WHAT YOU WANT AND REALLY ANGRY THAT YOU CAN'T GO AND HAVE TO DRIVE TO PEARLAND OR HOUSTON OR LAKE JACKSON.
BUT YOU JUST GET RIGHT ON THE GROUND, TAKE IN AND GO RIGHT TO 44.
WE HAVE AGREED TO EXTEND THAT ROAD ALL THE WAY TO OUR PROPERTY LINE.
INCIDENTALLY, THAT IS WHAT'S CALLED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF JARGON, A NO-LOADED ROAD.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY HOUSES OR IT DOESN'T MAKE US ANY MONEY, IT'S JUST A COST ATOM AND IT'S AN EXPENSIVE ONE.
BUT WE'VE AGREED TO EXTEND THAT.
THEN THE THIRD THING IS YOU WANTED SOME POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE COMMERCIAL, WE FELT LIKE THAT MAYBE IF WE PUT THERE A PLAN, SOMEBODY MAY WANT TO COME IN THERE AND BUY IT.
WE GOT ROUGHLY 15 ACRES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DRAINAGE CANAL, WHICH WILL BE COMMERCIAL.
WE HAVE OUR LAST SECTION IS SECTION 6 AND WHAT WE'VE SAID IS FOR FOUR YEARS WE WILL ADVERTISE, LIST IT AND SELL IT AS A COMMERCIAL.
ONCE WE HAVE DEVELOPED SECTIONS 1-5, AT THE END OF FOUR YEARS, IF WE HAVEN'T SOLD IT, THERE ARE NO BUYERS ON IT, THEN WE WOULD DEVELOP IT INTO 60 FOOT LOTS.
THOSE WERE THE THREE MAIN ISSUES OTHER THAN THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WITHOUT EXCEPTION, EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL AND ALMOST EVERYONE I'VE TALKED TO IN THIS COMMUNITY, THEY KNOW THEY'RE TAKING A FAMILY, THEY KNOW THIS LAND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.
IT'S A DIRECT SHOT FROM 288 RIGHT INTO THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE, THE CITY HALL, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, WHICH I THINK IN TIME WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE AREA.
THIS IS A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE PLAN TO MAKE IT A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
HORTON, THE LARGEST HOMEBUILDER IN THE UNITED STATES, THE BIGGEST IN HOUSTON.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL DO, AND I'VE GOT IN YOUR PACKET A PICTURE OF AN ENTRYWAY MONUMENT, AND THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'LL AGREE IN WRITING TO PUT IN, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE, IT'S FAIRLY TRADITIONAL AND ALMOST [INAUDIBLE] .
THE REASON I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE TRADITIONAL AND [INAUDIBLE] IS BECAUSE OF NAME, STEPHEN F AUSTIN.
THAT'S MY VISION FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO IS, IT'S GREEN AND PLANTED.
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IT'S IRRIGATED.WE WILL PLAN IT, WE WILL IRRIGATE IT.
THE OTHER THING IS THERE IS LIGHTS. IT'LL BE LIGHTED.
AS YOU DRIVE DOWN 44 AT NIGHT, AND YOU COME UPON THIS SUBDIVISION, YOU HAVE A NICE SLIDE AND MONUMENT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ENTRYWAY.
THE OTHER THING WE WILL PUT IN WRITING IS THE PLACE GATE.
THIS WOULD BE A NICE PARK AREA WITH PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, AND THAT'S RIGHT AT THE FRONT DOOR.
SO WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, YOU SEE A NICE ENTRY MONUMENT AND A NICE PLACE SCAPED AREA.
THE DETENTION POND WILL BE GRADED AND PLANTED.
THEY CAN BE USED AS PLAYGROUND AREAS FOR CHILDREN.
I'VE HEARD THAT SOMETIMES IT GETS DRY AND HOT IN HAMILTON, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S TRUE.
BUT IT DOES LEAVE A LOT OF TIME TO PLAY FOOTBALL, BASEBALL, WHATEVER WE WANTED TO DO.
WE WILL HAVE A REFLECTIVE POND.
ON THE NORTHERN POND, THERE'LL BE A REFLECTIVE POND.
THAT POND WILL HAVE A WATER FEATURE.
IT WILL BE LANDSCAPED, IT WILL BE VERY NICE, BUT THERE WILL ALSO BE PRACTICE.
IT'LL BE GRADED AND PLANTED, AND THERE'LL BE OPPORTUNITY FOR PRACTICE FOR YOU.
I THINK THOSE WERE THE MAIN POINTS THAT WE DISCUSSED, THAT WITHOUT EXCEPTION, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUESTED THAT WE GIVE CONSIDERATION TO, AND WE'VE DONE EXACTLY I THINK WHAT YOU'VE ASKED.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEED, I'M HERE TO TALK.
IF WE NEED TECHNICAL, DOUG'S HERE, ROBIN'S HERE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. SANDY, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME BACK AND GIVE US A COMPROMISE ON THE FEEDBACK YOU GOT FROM US, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU DIDN'T WALK AWAY, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT IF THE 13 ACRES IN THE REAR FOR COMMERCIAL, I KNOW IT'S A LONG SHOT, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU ACTUALLY SEE BACK THERE? WHAT DO YOU ENVISION IF IT DOES TRULY MATERIALIZE TO SOMETHING COMMERCIAL? WHAT WOULD YOUR VISION BE FOR THAT BACK THERE OR BEHIND THE WALMART, I'M NOT SAYING BACK, IN THE BACK OF THE SUBDIVISION?
>> I DO NOT SEE THIS AS RETAIL.
I BELIEVE RETAIL WILL BE ON 288, AND I BELIEVE YOU'LL HAVE THREE MAJOR RETAIL CENTERS.
YOU'LL HAVE ONE AT 523 AND 288. YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT AN AERIAL PHOTO, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN PEARLAND.
YOU CAN LOOK AT AN AERIAL PHOTO AT EVERY CITY THAT'S GROWN OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT PROPOSALS FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S THREE THINGS THEY LOOK FOR.
ROOFTOPS, HOW MANY HOUSES ARE AROUND THAT PARTICULAR AREA? TRAFFIC COUNT, HOW MANY CARS GO BY THERE, AND WHAT'S THE AVERAGE VALUE OF THE HOME AND THE NET GROSS OR THE GROSS INCOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THERE? THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT THEY LOOK AT THAT DRIVES MARKET BUILDING, WHERE YOUR TRAFFIC COUNT'S 288, AND THAT'S WHERE I BELIEVE WHERE YOU'LL SEE ALL YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T SEE THAT, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
QUITE FRANKLY, I HOPE I AM WRONG, AND QUITE FRANKLY, I HOPE MR. WRIGHT IS DEAD SOLID RIGHT.
[LAUGHTER] BECAUSE I HOPE SOMEBODY BARS THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CASH IMMEDIATELY, AND THIS BABY IS A CASH DRAIN.
BUT I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE IT.
BUT WE'LL MARKET IN AND TRY TO DO IT.
IF WE COULD GET RETAIL IN THERE OR [INAUDIBLE] TO SEE SOME FORM OF MAYBE A CONVENIENCE STORE, WHICH I HOPE YOU ALL WOULD NOT APPROVE, BUT THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS.
BUT WE MIGHT SEE SOME LOCAL SHOPS, MAYBE SOME OFFICE BUILDINGS, SO SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT STATEMENT THERE.
I APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE THE DEVELOPERS.
YOU DO THIS FOR A LIVING, NOT US.
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WE DON'T DO THIS FOR A LIVING, YOU DO IT.THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> FOR THE RECORD, I COULD SEE AN ACADEMY, JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
>> ACADEMY WOULD BE GREAT. I AGREE WITH YOU THERE.
>> I SEE MR. RAYSLER IN THE BACK OVER THERE. [LAUGHTER].
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, MR. RAY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH ME TWICE.
YOU HAVE BEEN VERY OUT FRONT, AND I DEFINITELY CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GREAT THINGS ABOUT WORKING WITH YOU, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.
>> WE'VE COME TO YOU WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS ON HERE THAT WE WANTED FROM THE VERY FIRST TIME WE SAW IT, AND YOU NEVER SAID NO.
YOU JUST KEPT LOOKING AT IT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK.
I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT MORE THAN ANYTHING.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU FIRST CAME TO US, THIS WAS ALL 50'.
THE ROAD WAS GOING TO SLIDE DOWN AND GO SOUTH.
NOBODY SEES MY VISION OF A COMMERCIAL BUT YOU'RE OKAY WITH WAITING AND AT LEAST FOUR YEARS ON THIS, AND I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.
I THINK WE'VE COME A LONG WAYS.
ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS TIGNER BOULEVARD, STILL TWO LANES ON BOTH SIDES OR DID YOU DROP IT BACK DOWN TO ONE LANE ON BOTH SIDES? YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME FEET SQUARE FEET.
>> [INAUDIBLE] WITH BAKER & LAWSON. YES, WE TALKED ABOUT TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, A FULL LANE.
I THINK AS WE GET CLOSER, WE NEED TO HAVE, WHICH I HATE TO SAY IT, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE IT.
BUT I THINK MR. RAY HAS AGREED TO THAT AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADING.
BUT AS A ENGINEER WITH SOME TRAFFIC BACKGROUND, I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT MUCH, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE? SECTION 1 IS STILL 50' LOT AND THAT'S ABOUT 100 LOTS.
>> THEN 2 IS 55 AND THEN 3 AND 60S.
>> THE LIGHT GREEN IS 60S AND THE PURPLE OR WHATEVER THE COLOR IS IS 55S.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IF THAT ONE AREA DOESN'T DEVELOP COMMERCIALLY, IT GOES TO 60S. [LAUGHTER]
>> [LAUGHTER] IF THAT ONE SECTION DOESN'T GO COMMERCIALLY, IT'S 60S.
>> WHY THE DRY DETENTION BETWEEN PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 INSTEAD OF A WET DETENTION?
>> WHY DO WE HAVE DRY DETENTION INSTEAD OF WET DETENTION?
>> I GUESS IT WOULD BE PHASE 1 YOU WOULD DO THAT.
>> THERE WOULD NOT BE WHAT I CALL A REFLECTIVE POND.
THEY PLAN IT AND KIDS, WHEN IT DOESN'T GO WET, COULD PLAY IN IT.
IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE AND BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE THAT LOVE THESE HOMES AND PAY THESE HOMEOWNER FEES, THEY DON'T WANT THOSE REFLECTIVE PONDS.
WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, THEY LOOK PRETTY, BUT THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.
IF YOU DON'T MAINTAIN THEM, THEY STINK AND THEY DRAW MOSQUITOES AND THEY GOT RACCOONS AND [LAUGHTER] ALL KINDS OF THINGS [OVERLAPPING] DON'T MIX WELL CHILDREN AND DOGS AND CATS, ALLIGATORS AND SNAKES, THEY DON'T WANT THEM.
>> SO RATHER THAN PUT ONE BACK THERE, I PUT ONE UP THERE ON TIGNER BOULEVARD SO PEOPLE GO BY, AND THAT'S OPEN, THERE'S A ROAD.
HOPEFULLY THEY KEEP THIS TO SCARE THE CRITTERS AWAY.
>> YOU WON'T BE ASKING FOR ANY PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE WAIVERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, CAF WAIVERS?
>> NO, THE ONLY THING THAT WE REQUEST IS THAT WE ONLY PAY OUR FEES; THE CAF FEES, THE PARK FEES, [OVERLAPPING] THE FLOODING FEES,
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WE ONLY PAY OUR FEES FOR THE LOTS THAT WE FOUND FLAT AS WE FILE CLAIM, THAT WE GET TO PAY.THAT'S FINE. NO, WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF PAYING THE FEES.
NOW, IF YOU GOT [NOISE] TO DANCE, YOU GOT TO PAY THE FIDDLER.
THE CITY'S GOT TO HAVE SOME CASH TO OPERATE.
>> MR. RAY, ON YOUR 50' LOTS AND 50 OR 55 OR 60S, WHAT ARE THE PRICE POINTS FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT SIZE LOTS.
>> WELL, THE AVERAGE FOR THE SUBDIVISION IS PROBABLY 275-325.
>> THE OPENING, PROBABLY 225-275.
THEY WILL ADVERTISE 225, BUT THEN YOU'LL GET IN THERE, YOU GOT TO HAVE THIS, YOU GOT TO HAVE THAT.
THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING IS SKYROCKETING. IT'S A LITTLE SCARY.
>> YOUR 50' LOTS ON YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN DEVELOPING, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AS MAYBE THE OCCUPATION OF THE 100'? WHAT DO YOU SEE THESE? ARE THEY TEACHERS, ARE THEY POLICE OFFICERS, ARE THEY MANAGERS OF WALMART SUPER CENTERS, WHAT ARE THEY?
>> WELL, TO QUALIFY FOR A $225,000 LOAN [INAUDIBLE] PRETTY CLOSE TO 10 PERCENT.
SO YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE $25,000 IN CASH. NO DEBT.
MAYBE A CAR. YOU GOT TO HAVE AN INCOME OF 70,000 PLUS.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING SCHOOL TEACHERS, POLICE OFFICERS, DOCTORS OUT OF MEDICAL SCHOOL, LAWYERS WITH 3-5 YEARS EXPERIENCE, SKILLS TRADE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S THE BEGINNING RATHER.
[LAUGHTER] THAT IS THE BEGINNING.
THAT IS THE PEOPLE IN THESE 50-FOOT LOTS.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SAY THAT WORD, THESE PEOPLE.
THE POTENTIAL BUYER OF THESE LOTS, OTHER 100 WILL BE THERE.
WHEN YOU START MOVING INTO THE 60-FOOT LOTS, WHAT DOES THAT PRICE POINT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S THE BOTTOM INWARD THAT IS GOING TO START?
>> THAT'S PROBABLY SOMEBODY MAKING ABOUT $100,000 A YEAR. NINETY.
>> YES, BUT IT'S ALSO WHAT I CALL SECOND FIRST-MOVER.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY BOUGHT THE STARTER HOME, THEY BOUGHT THE 50-FOOT LOT PRICE RANGE FIVE YEARS AGO, AND THEY DROVE THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION AND LOVED IT.
WENT TO PUT A "FOR SALE" SIGN OR DID NOT BOTHER 300 DOWN, I DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE THEY GOT ACCURATE.
WE GET A LOT OF THAT, I MEAN A REALLY LOT OF THAT.
THEN WHEN YOU GET OVER 300, NOW YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING 150 PLUS.
>> DO YOU SEE THIS PROPERTY BEING RENTAL PROPERTY?
>> DO YOU SEE THIS MAYBE BEING RENTAL PROPERTY OR PEOPLE BUYING THEM AND JUST PUTTING THEM OUT AS RENTAL PIECES OF PROPERTY?
>> I DO NOT SEE IT. I HAVE NOT HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH ANY FINANCIAL PEOPLE CONCERNING RENTAL PROPERTY AND THEIR DR HOME IS A HOME DONOR. THEY BUILD THEMSELVES.
>> SERIOUS BUYER IS GOING TO STAY THERE FOR A WHILE, HOPEFULLY.
>> YES. WE CAN'T STOP SOMEBODY WHO IS COMING IN OUT OF THE BLUE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS, I HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ANYBODY AND THAT'S NOT MY MARKET.
THAT'S NOT MY MARKET AND I DO NOT THINK I CAN WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
THEY WANT TO JUST KNUCKLING DOWN EVERYTHING AND I CAN'T LIVE LIKE THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T PUT UP WITH THEM.
I'M VERY COMFORTABLE BECAUSE I ENJOY WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT I'M, I'M REALLY GO BETWEEN THREE PEOPLE; THE BUILDER, THE CITY, AND THE MONEY.
THAT'S WHO I WANT TO DEAL WITH.
NO, I DON'T SEE THAT AND I HAD NO INTENTIONS OF DEALING WITH IT,
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AND THEY WOULDN'T GO FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.THEY WANT TO STACK THEM DEEP AND SELL THEM CHEAP.
>> WE'RE JUST BEING HONEST HERE.
A 50-FOOT LOT SUBDIVISION IN YOUR GUT IS A PRODUCT THAT YOU KNOW IT'S OUT THERE, THERE IS DEMAND FOR IT, THERE IS A NEED FOR IT.
YOU'VE SEEN IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE IN THE FULL SHEAR AREA OUT THAT AWAY AND YOU WATCHED THEM NOT EXPLODE, BUT HAS SOME GOOD GROWTH OVER THERE.
>> YOU FEEL THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON? THAT'S YOUR [INAUDIBLE].
>> OH, YEAH. I THINK ANGLETON IS GOING TO DRAW OBVIOUSLY FROM THE CHEMICAL COMPLEX IN LAKE JACKSON AREA LIKE THE QUARTER FREE FALL IS GOING TO USED IN OR USED IN HER OWN PULL OF MONEY.
I THINK YOU ARE REALLY GOING TO SEE GOOD GROWTH THERE FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
APPARENTLY AND I THINK YOU WILL ABLE TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON, THAT'S WHY THEY MOVED TO PEARLAND AND NOW PEARLAND IS MORE CONGESTED THAN THE CITY OF HOUSTON.
>> I LIVE RIGHT ALMOST OUT OF DOWNTOWN OF HOUSTON.
I THINK YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING FROM PEARLAND.
I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WORK IN HOUSTON, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO GO IN TWO OR THREE DAYS A WEEK AND THEY DO NOT MIND AN HOUR DRIVE OF TWO DAYS A WEEK, THREE DAYS A WEEK.
>> OF HOUR EACH WAY OR AT LEAST 45 MINUTES.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THAT.
>> JUST FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT'S THE DRAW FOR ANGLETON? WHAT DOES YOUR GUT TELL YOU, WHY IS THE DRAW TO ANGLETON, TEXAS?
>> WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN IN MY EARLY 30S AND JUST OUT OF LAW SCHOOL AND WAS MAKING ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY MY BILLS AND HAD TWO CHILDREN AND A WIFE, WHAT I REALLY WANTED MORE THAN ANYTHING WAS A COMMUNITY.
I WANTED TO PUT EVERYBODY IN THE CAR AND GO TO THE LOUISVILLE BASEBALL FIELD WHICH WE DID.
I WAS A MANAGER AND MY WIFE WAS EITHER THE STOREKEEPER OR [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] A SECRETARY OR WE WERE THE GARDENERS AND I WANTED THAT COMMUNITY.
I WANTED A CHURCH THAT WAS CLOSE TO MY HOUSE.
I WANTED FRIENDS THAT THERE WERE REAL LIKE I'M AND I WANTED THAT MORE THAN ANYTHING.
TO BE QUITE FRANKLY, WE ALL WORK IN AREAS AND THERE'S PEOPLE WE LIKE THAT WE WORK WITH AND PEOPLE YOU'RE IRRITATED WITH AND WE JUST LIKE TO GET AWAY FROM ALL THAT HUSTLE AND BUSTLE AND DONGIE WORLD, BEING WITH THE FAMILY.
ANGLETON IS A REAL FAMILY COMMUNITY.
JUST FAMILY YOU'RE [INAUDIBLE] AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE BEING DRAWN AND YOU'RE GROWING THROUGH GROWING NICE AND I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK THOUGH.
I THINK THE LANDSTEINER THAT WAS HERE EARLIER, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
>> BE WORRIED ABOUT STACKING THEM DEEP AND SELLING THEM CHEAP FOR SMALL LOTS.
THAT'S A WORRY. THERE'S A PLACE FOR SMALLER LOTS.
YOU WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THAT FIRST HOME.
THERE'S WAYS TO KEEP YOUR CITY IN A GOOD POSITION WITH SOME SMALL HOMES.
REQUIRE WHAT I'M OFFERING, REQUIRE GOOD ENTRYWAYS.
GOOD STREETS, THERE'S LIGHTS, GOOD PLAYGROUND.
>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. RAY?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THE OTHER DAY WHEN WE DID VISIT THE HUB.
I GO BACK TO THE FIRST LAYOUT THAT YOU HAD.
I WAS MORE DRAWN TO THAT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU OFFERING THIS OTHER OPTION THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TO US HERE TONIGHT.
REMINDER TO EVERYONE HERE ON THE COUNCIL THAT THE ALIGNMENT OF TENURE BOULEVARD THAT WAS SHOWN THERE, GOES TO THE WEST EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THAT IS AS FAR AS IT'S GOING TO GO UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS WEST OF HERE.
WHO KNOWS HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO TAKE.
I DON'T KNOW THE PLANS FOR THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER PROBABLY NOT TO DEVELOP IT BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY OWNER HAS HAD THAT LAND FOR QUITE A WHILE.
IF THIS CONFIGURATION OF STREETS IS BILL
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THEN EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO EXIT TO GO TO COUNTY ROAD 44 IS GOING TO COME OUT TO AUSTIN COLONY BOULEVARD.UNTIL IT GETS EXTENDED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THERE, THE ONLY WAY OUT TO ANCHOR ROAD IS GOING TO BE ALONG THE ALIGNMENT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SHOWN AT THE FIRST TO VOTE.
THAT'S ALL MR. REICH AND HIS PEOPLE CAN DO.
>> THESE ARE ALL THE LANDS, THE ONLY PIECE OF LAND HE'S GOT.
IS WHAT HE'S PURCHASING FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] PROBE.
THE ADJOINING LAND OVER THERE IS WELL TOO MUCH FOR THE PARK.
IT'S UNAFFORDABLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
I THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL SHOW THAT A NEED FOR A BOULEVARD SECTION WAS MEDIAN FROM WALMART OVER TO ANCHOR ROAD IS GOING TO BE ACCESSED.
THE ONLY CROSS STREETS ARE GOING TO BE THOSE THAT ARE SHOWN HERE.
THERE'LL BE STOP SIGNS OR SOMETHING THERE FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS OR YIELD SIGNS ON THE SIDE STREETS.
BUT ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO CARRY THE TRAFFIC.
IF YOU PUT TWO BOULEVARDS THROUGH THERE, YOU EVEN DOUBLE UP ON THE AMOUNT OF STREET TO CARRY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
LET THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DICTATE.
I DON'T THINK THE WARRANTS ARE GOING TO BE THERE TO DRIVE A BOULEVARD SECTION FROM THE EAST SIDE OF HIS PROPERTY TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, EVERYBODY THAT BUILDS IN THERE, LIVES THERE, IS GOING TO NEED TO GO BACK OUT TO WALMART TO GO EAST, OR COME DOWN OUT AUSTIN COLONY BOULEVARD TO GET TO ANCHOR ROAD AND GET ON TO NORTH AND SOUTH.
I LIKE YOUR LAYOUT, APPRECIATE YOUR OFFER OF THE LARGER LOTS OUT THERE.
[BACKGROUND] I JUST LIKE THIS TYPE OF LAYOUT.
YOU GET BACK IN THERE, IT IS QUIET.
YOU GO TO YOUR HOME WHERE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC RUNNING ALL THROUGH THERE.
THE ONLY PLACE THAT CARS TRAVEL IS PRETTY MUCH THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION.
I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO BE A CHAMPION FOR DRY POND DETENTION.
THE GROUND IN A DRY POND DETENTION WHEN IT'S RAINING, NOBODY IS USING ANYTHING, ANYWHERE. IT'S WET.
ONCE IT DRAINS OFF, GIVE IT A DAY OR SO, AND THEN YOU HAVE DRY LAND THAT YOU CAN USE.
KIDS CAN GO OUT THERE AND PLAY.
ALL THOSE PEOPLE CAN JUST WALK AND BE OUT THERE AND DO THEIR DAILY THING.
AGAIN, REFLECTIVE POND IS GOING TO BE OF MAINTENANCE.
MUCH MORE SUBTLE THAN JUST GOING OUT THERE AND MOWING GRASS IN A DRY POND.
THE DRY POND DOES THE SAME THING THAT A WET POND DOES.
IT'S JUST THAT [LAUGHTER] WET POND IS DUG DEEPER AND YOU JUST HAVE WATER IN THERE.
IT HELP IF YOU'VE GOT A CLAY BOTTOM OUT THERE TO DEVELOP DRAIN OUT ON IT.
[LAUGHTER] [NOISE] I'M WEARING MY ENGINEERING HAT TONIGHT, [NOISE] SO THAT'S HOW I'M VIEWING THIS.
>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, I THINK WE NEED TO DO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.
MY IMPRESSION IS THAT YOU ALL AGREE THAT THIS PROPOSAL LAYOUT IS THE WAY TO GO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, CORRECT?
>> I'M NOT HEARING ANY OBJECTIONS UP HERE. [LAUGHTER]
>> I WANT TO HEAR SOMEBODY AFFIRMATIVELY SAY THAT.
>> I SAID MY POINT. I LIKE THE FIRST LAYOUT, BUT IT'S OKAY.
>> ASSUMING THAT THIS IS OKAY TO PROCEED FORWARD,
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IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BECAUSE OF THE ZONING REQUEST FOR SF5 WAS TABLED BUT NOT TO A DATE CERTAINED, NOTICE HAS TO BE DONE AGAIN TO THE NEWSPAPER AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET AROUND THE PROPERTY.PART OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE IS THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO GO ALONG WITH THE REZONING.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THERE'S NO REASON TO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AGAIN ON THAT, [NOISE] BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TOGETHER BEFORE YOUR SECOND MEETING IN MAY.
IF YOU ALL WANT TO SCHEDULE TAKING UP THE REZONING THAT WAS TABLED AT YOUR SECOND MEETING IN MAY, THEN I KNOW WHEN I HAVE TO GET THE NOTICE OUT, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DONE AND WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THAT SECOND MEETING IN MAY AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT DATE IS.
>> SECOND MEETING IN MAY. [INAUDIBLE]
>> IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO YOU ALL, THAT'S THE PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE I SAW SOME HEADS NODDING IN THE FORWARD DIRECTION AND NOT THE LEFT OR RIGHT, BUT THAT WAS ONLY MY PERIPHERAL, SO I THINK THAT MAY BE A GOOD DIRECTION TO START MOVING IN BASED ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK.
>> I'VE STAYED QUIET. I DO APPRECIATE MR. RAY'S.
I GUESS I SAW THE ORIGINAL VERSION.
I KNOW I WAS HARDLINER FOR THE TIGNER BOULEVARD.
I KNOW WILLIAMS ADDRESS THAT EARLIER.
I RESPECTFULLY AGAIN DISAGREE WITH MR. BOOTH.
I DO THINK THIS IS GOING TO TURN INTO A THOROUGHFARE.
>> A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE IN TOWN.
THAT YOU'RE ADDING WHAT, 600 HOMES HERE? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THOSE HOMES BUILT OVER IN [INAUDIBLE] COURT, I GUESS IT IS.
IT'S ON THE WAY TO WHAT YOU'RE CALLING OUR FUTURE HUBS AT CORNER OF 44 AND 288.
THIS IS GOING TO BECOME A THOROUGHFARE.
TO PLAN, AT LEAST SPACE-WISE, NOW WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO REBUILD THIS ROAD IN 20 YEARS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS REALLY GOING TO BE ONE, SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY LOST, AN EXPENSE INCURRED BY THE CITIZENS.
WE'LL DO YOUR TRAFFIC PLAN AND IT'S SURE EASY TO HAVE A TRAFFIC PLAN DONE WHEN ONE SECTION'S BUILT AND SIX MORE ARE STILL TO BE BUILT.
WE KNOW WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO CONNECT AT 244 UP HIGHER, I MEAN, I GET THAT.
THAT'LL BE ON THE CITY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
PROBABLY A LOT EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
I'M NOT PRETENDING LIKE THIS IS A SMALL MATTER.
BUT MR. RAY ASKED ME WHAT I THOUGHT, AND I UNDERSTAND TO GET THINGS YOU WANT, YOU SOMETIMES HAVE TO TAKE WHAT YOU DON'T WANT.
I'VE BEEN PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT THE SMALLER LOTS BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, THEY'RE GROWING WEEKLY, ALMOST MONTHLY.
HOW MANY MORE SMALL LOTS ARE WE GOING TO ADD? ON THE OTHER HAND, WILLIAMS BRINGS FORTH THIS IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE HIS THOROUGHFARE, HIS TIGNER BOULEVARD, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.
WE NEED IT AS A BOULEVARD THOUGH.
YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE SOMETIMES THE GOOD WITH WHAT YOU DON'T WANT.
IT'S COMPROMISE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
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I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT MR. RAY IS MAYBE RIGHT.MAYBE THAT'S JUST FOOL'S GOLD AND WE'LL FIND OUT. TIME WILL TELL.
[NOISE] THERE'S SOME GREEN PADS RIGHT THERE RIGHT NEXT TO WALMART ALREADY.
I THINK YOU DEVELOP TIGNER BOULEVARD, THOSE GREEN PADS ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOME VERY ATTRACTIVE.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE BIGGEST BUSINESS IN ANGLETON, TEXAS.
WE'LL SEE. THAT'S ALL MY THOUGHTS.
>> MR. RAY, YOU'RE GOING TO GO ACTIVELY RECRUIT FOR COMMERCIAL, AREN'T YOU?
>> I'M GOING TO CONTACT COMMERCIAL BROKERS, PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND DEAL IN THAT WORLD.
THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY BUY LAND AND LEASE SPACES TO ACADEMY.
I'M GOING TO CONTACT THEM AND I'M GOING TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT IS AS ENTHUSIASTIC AS YOU ARE, [LAUGHTER] AND I'M GOING TO BRING THEM AND PUT THEM AT YOUR FRONT DOOR. [LAUGHTER]
>> WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEM. [LAUGHTER]
>> I WILL GIVE THEM A LISTING, AND I WILL REQUIRE THEM TO DO MORE THAN JUST PUT A SIGN OUT THERE AND SIT BY THE PHONE.
SHOW ME YOUR BROCHURE, WHO YOU'RE GOING TO CALL.
I NEED CASH, [LAUGHTER] AND A BUNCH OF IT TO BUILD THOSE ROADS.
SOMEBODY WHO WOULD COME IN HERE AND BUY SOME OF THAT LAND FOR ME, [NOISE] I PUT A STATUE OF JOHN RYAN OUT THERE.
>> THAT'S WHY I LIKE DEALING WITH YOU, MR. RAY.
>> IS THAT GOING TO BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS WELL? [LAUGHTER]
>> THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> DOES JOHN GET A STATUE BEFORE ME? MAN. [LAUGHTER]
>> YOU EVEN PLAYED YOUR CARD RIGHT.
>> THIS DYNAMIC THING WHAT IT DOES, BUT, MARK, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHO MAINTAINS THE DITCH THAT'S IN [INAUDIBLE] ROAD AND THE DITCH THAT GOES [NOISE] OUT TO ANCHOR? IS THAT AN ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT DITCH? [OVERLAPPING] OKAY. THANK YOU, DAVID.
>> ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.
>> OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. WRIGHT OR DOUG? [OVERLAPPING]
>> COMMISSIONER'S BORED OVER THERE.
WE'LL BE IN CONTACT. THE STAFF WILL.
>> I'LL BE WORKING WITH STAFF TO TRY TO GET TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND GET ON THE AGENDA AND GET BACK HERE AND LIGHT A PART OF ME.
>> WELL, WE'LL START CONSTRUCTIONAL SESSION 1 JUNE 1ST.
[LAUGHTER] YOU-ALL WORKED THREE-HOUR SHIFT.
ITEM NUMBER 31, PRESENTATION, FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN PROGRAMMING.
[31. Presentation on the Freedom Park Master Plan program findings by Burditt Consulting.]
FINDINGS BY BURDITT CONSULTANTS.>> YES. THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRESENTATION THAT STAFF IS GOING TO HELP ADMINISTER WHILE WE HAVE BURDITT CONSULTANTS ON THE LINE, VIA ZOOM.
I BELIEVE CLAUDIA IS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
I'M GOING TO REVIEW WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND EVOC YESTERDAY EVENING.
THIS IS JUST REALLY TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW SO THAT YOU-ALL ARE AWARE AND ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, ON THEIR PROGRAM FINDINGS, RESEARCH, AND THEIR FIRST LOOK AT A PROGRAM CONCEPT.
REALLY, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CONCEPTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.
YOU'LL SEE CONCEPTS IN ANOTHER JOINT MEETING SUBSEQUENT TO THIS IN MAY, WHERE WE WILL ACTUALLY BE PRESENTED WITH THREE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS AND TRY TO MOVE TOWARDS A MASTER PLAN.
AGAIN, I'M GOING TO JUST TRY TO PROVIDE A CONDENSED OVERVIEW OF THIS PRESENTATION.
YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO STOP ME AT ANY POINT IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, AND I'LL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AND THE DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN.
ON THAT FIRST PAGE IN YOUR PACKET OF THE FREEDOM PARK RESEARCH AND STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT, YOU'LL SEE A SUMMARY FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS.
IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT ONLINE PUBLIC SURVEYS WHERE WE RECEIVED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING PARK AMENITIES THAT MIGHT BE DESIRED IN LAKESIDE PARK,
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AS WELL AS HELP PRIORITIZING THOSE.WE HAD HUNDREDS OF COMMENTS FROM THIS INITIAL SURVEY.
OUT OF THOSE COMMENTS, WE HAD ABOUT 52 UNIQUE PROGRAM AMENITIES.
[BACKGROUND] NO, YOU'RE PERFECT.
THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING] THAT WE ASKED THE PUBLIC TO THEN PRIORITIZE.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE INCLUDED IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY CONDENSED VERSION OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT INCLUDING ALL 52 ELEMENTS.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO LET THE CREAM RISE TO THE TOP HERE.
THE FIRST OR TOP THREE DESIRED AMENITIES; YOU'LL SEE THEY IDENTIFIED AS TRAILS, SPLASH PAD, AND AN AMPHITHEATER.
THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY BIKE PATHS, RESTAURANTS, AND TRAIL LIGHTING.
LAST ON THE TOP 10 LIST WAS A DOG PARK, WATER FEATURE, OPEN AND NATURAL SPACES, AS WELL AS PLAYGROUNDS FOR ALL.
YOU'LL SEE AGAIN THE PROGRAM AMENITY LIST, LET'S SEE, OVER HERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, A PUBLIC SURVEY WORD CLOUD THAT'S BASED ON HOW MANY TIMES THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE SURVEY SO YOU CAN SEE WHICH ONES POP OUT.
THEY ALSO PROVIDED A BAR GRAPH FOR YOU SO YOU COULD SEE THE NUMBERS BASED ON THE INPUT THAT WAS PROVIDED.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, [NOISE] YOU'LL NOTICE THE PARK SYSTEM FINDINGS.
THEY TOOK AN OVERVIEW OR A LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PARK SYSTEM AND THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE MAJORITY OF THE DESIRED PROGRAM.
ITEMS ARE NOT DUPLICATED WITH EXISTING AMENITIES THROUGHOUT OUR PARK SYSTEM, WHICH IS GREAT.
WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE DUPLICATED, BUT VERY FEW.
THEY ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT THERE'S HIGH USE IN PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS AND NEIGHBORHOODS FOR VARIOUS AMENITIES SUCH AS THE THINGS THAT THEY LISTED HERE; SPLASH PADS, AMPHITHEATER, BASKETBALL COURTS, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON FOR US.
THIS ONE, I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT JUST AS IT RELATES TO THE MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR.
TRAILS HAVE BEEN PART OF THE MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN.
THAT WAS NOT ONLY IN THIS PLAN THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM, BUT OVERALL WHEN WE DID THAT STUDY.
I THINK THAT STARTED BACK IN 2018 AND WAS ADOPTED IN 2019.
THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE ARE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC IS THEY WANT TRAILS, THEY WANT PLACES TO GO WALK, THEY WANT OUTDOOR AREAS, AND SO WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE TRAIL SYSTEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY IDENTIFIED IS CONNECTIVITY THROUGH OUR DRAINAGE CORRIDORS, SO WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN CONVERSATIONS WITH ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.
WHILE WE HAVE NOT LAUNCHED ANY FORMAL PROJECT, OR DONE ANY KIND OF MULTI-MODAL OR TRAIL MASTER PLAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO ADDRESS AND THEY'VE JUST BEGUN DOING THIS FOR US, JUST OUTLINING SOME OF THE CONNECTIVITY HERE.
THIS ONE CONNECTS FREEDOM PARK TO THREE SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS LIKE BRUSHY BAYOU AND SOME OTHER CONNECTED POINTS.
RANCHO ISABELLA PARK AS WELL, THE HOA PARK.
THEN OF COURSE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE DRAINAGE PATHS CONNECT.
KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR A DIFFERENT TIME, BUT SOMETHING TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE LOOKING AT FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS RESEARCH AND STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL HERE, BUT THE GROUP DID ACTUALLY MEET WITH USERS AT THE PARK.
THEY WENT OUT THERE VARIOUS TIMES.
THEY WENT IN THE NORTHERN 42-ACRE TRACK OF UNDEVELOPED AREA.
THEY WALKED THE PATHS, WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO WALK, AND I'LL POINT THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
BUT THEY ALSO TALKED TO PEOPLE WITHIN ANGLETON.
LITERALLY, PEOPLE AT THE PARK, AND JUST IDENTIFIED SOME SITE CONSTRAINTS AND PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
SOME OF THOSE THINGS, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS ONE, AGAIN, NOT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, THERE'S ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN THE CONCESSION STAND.
STORAGE IS A MAJOR ISSUE, WHICH THOSE OF YOU THAT SERVE ON EVOC, AND ARE FAMILIAR WITH PARK'S BOARD ITEMS, STORAGE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA [LAUGHTER] FOR THE PAST YEAR WITH ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO HELP ADDRESS THAT, AND WE THINK WE CAN DO THAT IN THIS MASTER PLAN.
SPORTS, THEY WOULD LOVE SOME ADDITIONAL FIELDS, PLAYGROUND, STRUCTURES.
WE HAVE A GREAT STRUCTURE OVER THERE.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE TO MAINTAIN IT, ADD SOME ADDITIONAL TRAILS, AND THAT WE HAVE GENERAL ITEMS LIKE BENCHES AND DIFFERENT AMENITIES ALONG OUR PATHWAYS.
[LAUGHTER] TOO MUCH. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE,
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IT'S THE SITE ANALYSIS.AGAIN, NOT GOING TO GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL HERE, I'M JUST GOING TO LIFT OFF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY MENTIONED.
WE HAVE HARDWOODS, WE HAVE A LOT OF TALLOW FLATS, WHICH WHILE THOSE ARE INVASIVE, THEY ALSO ADD COLOR, SO NOT SOMETHING TO NECESSARILY TOTALLY ELIMINATE AS WE LOOK AT THAT NORTHERN TRACK.
THERE'S A LOT OF BRUSH THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY CLEAR AND HAVE SOME PRAIRIE AREAS.
A LOOP TRAIL THAT WE CAN EXPAND.
WE HAVE DETENTION AREA THAT WE WILL HAVE TO EXPAND AS PART OF CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS THAT WE SEE THAT AS A CONSTRAINT AND ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A TRAIL SYSTEM, AND ALSO A CONSTRAINT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD SOME BRIDGE IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT NORTHERN TRACK OF LAND.
WE ALSO HAVE EXISTING SPORTS COMPLEX LIKE THE BASEBALL FIELD, POTENTIAL TO EXPAND THAT AND THEN WE HAVE COVERED PLAY.
RIGHT AS YOU GOT THERE, FRANCIS, SORRY.
SOME OF THE ITEMS, THE RESEARCH AND STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT.
SPECIFIC ITEMS WE WILL ADDRESS WITH THE PLAN ARE BASED ON TIME, ECONOMY, FORM, AND FUNCTION.
THAT'S WHAT'S LISTED ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THIS MODEL HERE.
AS IT RELATES TO, SPECIFICALLY THE STAKEHOLDER GOALS, THOSE WERE DERIVED FROM A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND INSIGHT CONSTRAINTS.
AS ADDITIONALLY, STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY ENVISION SEEING.
CITY COUNCIL, PARKS BOARD, AND ABLC, AS WELL AS STAFF WERE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT TO BURDEN ON WHAT THEY ENVISION THE PARK LOOKING LIKE AND WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE, SO THAT TOOK SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS INTO CONSIDERATION.
THE ACTUAL NEEDS THAT THEY HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THE USER GROUPS.
THEN JUST TO ADDRESS THESE OVERALL PROBLEMS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? THEY'VE LAID OUT THIS NICE PROBLEM SEEKING METHOD FOR US TO BASE OUR PLAN OFF OF AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE NEXT THREE CONCEPTS WE WILL CONSIDER.
NOT TO CONFUSE ANYONE WITH THIS NEXT SLIDE, WHICH SHOULD BE OUR LAST.
WHILE THIS LOOKS LIKE A CONCEPT PLAN, IT REALLY IS JUST TO SHOW YOU THE SPACE, WHAT WE COULD BE DOING WITH THE SPACE.
IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A CONCEPT.
IT'S JUST SHOWING YOU WHAT HEADSET.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND THE NORTHERN TRACK, THAT IS, THEY ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES GO OUT AND WALK THAT TRACK.
HE HAD A GPS DEVICE ON HIM, SO THAT WAS THE NATURAL PATHWAYS THAT HE WAS ABLE TO FIND IN THAT NORTHERN TRACK AND THEY IDENTIFIED SOME OF THOSE AREAS WHERE WE COULD EXPAND OUR POND.
FOR OUR DETENTION REQUIREMENTS, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT AND THEIR ENGINEERS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING ALL OF THEIR NEEDS IN ADDITION TO OURS AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WE WANT THIS PLAN TO LOOK LIKE.
SO WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEADOWS, SOME WOODED AREAS.
OBVIOUSLY HIKING, THIS COULD BE NATURAL HIKING, BIKING, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE WANT THESE TRAIL SYSTEMS LOOK LIKE.
IT WILL DETERMINE THE SIZE OF THESE.
IF WE WANT IT TO BE IN MULTI-PURPOSE, MULTI-FUNCTIONAL, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS ALLOWING BIKERS, HIKERS, WALKERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT TYPE OF FEEDBACK IS NEEDED SO THAT WE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK TO VERDICT AND THEY HAVE DIRECTION ON WHAT THESE CONCEPTS NEED TO LOOK LIKE.
SAME THING IN THE LOWER PORTION, JUST EXPANDING SOME OF THE OPERATIONS AND ACTIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION.
YOU'LL SEE OVER TO THE LEFT OF THE FIELDS WE ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING PLAYGROUND.
THEY MENTIONED MAKING THAT OUR FAMILY FUNCTIONAL ACT OF RECREATION HUB IN ADDITION TO YOUR SPORTS COMPLEXES IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FIELDS DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS JUST AN IDEA TO SHOW YOU WHAT KIND OF SPACE YOU HAVE.
AGAIN, REITERATING, THIS IS NOT A CONCEPT PLAN.
IT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME KIND OF SPATIAL IDEA OF WHAT WE CAN WORK WITH.
IT ALSO SHOWS POSSIBILITY OF FITNESS ZONES, DOG PARKS.
WE DISCUSSED, IN LAST NIGHT'S MEETING, NOT OVER PACKING THIS PARK WITH AMENITIES.
WE WANT TO STILL MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS FUNCTIONAL, MEETING THE NEEDS, ADDRESSING ISSUES AND CONCERNS AND ALSO DESIRES OF OUR RESIDENTS, WHILE NOT OVERBEARING THE PARK WITH ALL OF THESE AMENITIES.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE OTHER PARKS THAT WE CAN DEVELOP, NEED TO DEVELOP, AND CAN SHARE THE IDEAS AMONG THOSE PARKS AND DEVELOP THOSE AS WELL.
WE WANT TO OPEN THIS UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
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EXCUSE ME I THOUGHT I WAS IN THE LAST SLIDE, I GUESS I WASN'T.>> WE APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO GET US [INAUDIBLE].
>> THE PROGRAM SUMMARY, AS YOU CAN SEE OVER TO THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, WE HAVE TRAILS WE WENT THROUGH WITH A ABLC AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO UNDERSTAND IF THEY WERE IN FAVOR FOR, OR IF THEY WANTED TO REMOVE SOME OF THESE AMENITIES.
WHAT I RECALL, JOHN AND MARK, IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT IF YOU REMEMBER ANY DIFFERENTLY, WE HAD POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THE NATURE TRAILS, CONNECTING TRAILS INCLUDING THINGS LIKE BY BIKE PATHS.
OF COURSE, WE'VE ALREADY INITIATED SOME TRAIL LIGHTING, SO WE'LL CONTINUE THAT AROUND THE MAIN LOOP OF FREEDOM.
WE DISCUSSED THE AMPHITHEATER AND THAT BEING A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AS WE EXPAND PROGRAM OFFERINGS AND EVEN EVENTS AT SOME OF OUR EXISTING PARKS.
IF WE OUTGROW THAT, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING AS WE EXPAND OUR PARK AMENITIES.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL REST ROOMS TO THE SITE.
DOG PARK WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT FAVORED IN LAST NIGHT.
>> I REMEMBER A FEW PEOPLE BEING IN FAVOR OF IT.
>> YES, THERE THERE WERE A COUPLE, I WOULD SAY A MAJORITY, MAYBE NOT.
SO THAT WAS SOME OF THE FEEDBACK.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS OPEN FOR COUNSEL INPUT AS WELL.
OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A POND AREA, AND SO FISHING WAS MENTIONED AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT DO WE REALLY NEED TO DUPLICATE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING INTO LAKESIDE.
WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WAS NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE NEED PURSUE.
SO OFF BANK FISHING COULD BE POTENTIAL THERE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY USABLE FOR PARALLEL SPORTS, IF YOU WILL.
OPEN IN NATURE, NATURAL SPACES WITH SOMETHING THAT IS INHERENT TO THIS 42 NORTHERN ACRE TRACK THAT I BELIEVE EVERYONE WAS IN FAVOR OF PLAYGROUNDS AND CREATING A FAMILY ORIENTED AREA POTENTIALLY ADJACENT TO SPLASH PAD.
EVEN WE DISCUSSED, WHICH WASN'T NECESSARILY IN THE CONCEPT, HAVING SOME SHADE STRUCTURE, NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING AT THIS POINT WHAT SIZE THAT IS.
THAT REALLY IS GOING TO BE BASED OFF OF DEMAND THAT WE SEE AS WE START DEVELOPING SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS.
THAT MIGHT EVEN BE MORE SO ADDRESSED AS WE GET INTO ACTUAL DESIGN OF A PARK LIKE THIS, NOT NECESSARILY IN CONCEPT PLANNING.
BUT WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT THAT TO LOOK LIKE.
ONE THING THAT I WILL MENTION WITH THE SHADE STRUCTURES IS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE, IS RATHER THAN PUTTING OUT A LARGE PAVILION, YOU COULD DO SEVERAL SMALL SHADE STRUCTURES AND PICNIC AREAS AS AN ALTERNATIVE OR THINGS THAT ARE LIKE SIZE THAT WE HAVE AT DICKEY PARK WOULD BE ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.
WE ALSO HAVE THE BASEBALL EXPANSION AS A POTENTIAL PARK AMENITY.
WE DISCUSSED PARTNERING WITH OTHER LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ANGLETON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL.
WE DISCUSSED THAT, WHILE TWO WERE NOT NECESSARILY PROPOSED, BUT THEY GAVE YOU AWARENESS OF WHAT YOU COULD USE THE SPACE FOR, TWO DIFFERENT SIZES.
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LARGER FIELD REALLY BEING WHAT ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE WANTED, NOT NECESSARILY THE SMALLER ONE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOVE YOUR INPUT ON AS WELL, IF YOU IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INPUT.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT IS DATED BACK ALMOST, IT'S NOT QUITE REACHED 20 YEARS TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
SOME OF THOSE ITEMS WHICH WERE ON THE ACTUAL PROGRAM LISTS WERE SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS.
SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS PUTTING THOSE BACK IN AND MAKING THIS MORE OF A SPORTS COMPLEX, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR AREA AND ADDING SOME SHADE STRUCTURES, THAT COULD BE ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.
I WILL GO TO THE LAST SLIDE, WHICH JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THIS PROJECT SCHEDULE.
I KNOW IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE REALLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A LOT, BUT WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PREP WORK.
WE PROVIDED A WEALTH OF INFORMATION ON PREVIOUS PLANS AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, STAKEHOLDER INPUT.
WE REQUESTED INPUT FROM A ABLC CITY COUNCIL AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND WHAT THEY ENVISIONED.
WE ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY IN THIS APRIL PORTION.
WE'RE GOING TO MEET SPECIAL JOINT MEETING IN MAY WITH THREE CONCEPTS, SO WE HOPE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME DIRECTIONAL AND A FINAL CONCEPT THAT
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THEY CAN REALLY TWEAK AND FORMALIZE.AS WE'RE WORKING ON THAT FINAL CONCEPT, WE'LL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT TO START THE DESIGN ON THE POND.
ONCE WE SOLIDIFY, IF WE FEEL REALLY COMFORTABLE ABOUT ONE FINAL CONCEPT, WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED ON DESIGN FOR THAT ON STRUCTURE SO THEY CAN GET MOVING ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
WE HOPE TO HAVE THIS DONE, FINALIZE AND ADOPTED END OF JULY, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THIS PRESENTATION, WE WELCOME AT THIS TIME.
AGAIN, [INAUDIBLE] IS ON THE LINE, SO THEY'RE JOTTING DOWN NOTES.
>> THANK YOU MA'AM. WE APPRECIATE THAT.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR MEGHAN OR THE INDIVIDUAL ONLINE?
>> LIKE THE ROADMAP. THANK YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE HOW THIS NATURAL THAN NORTHERN PART LOOKS.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE BIG BODY OF WATER.
THEY'RE USING A GIVEN GEOGRAPHICAL SURVEY TO DO THE LOW LYING AREAS AND POSSIBLY, I THINK THEY ALSO MENTIONED MAYBE SOME OF THE SMALLER PIECES OF WATER, WALL TAP WATER YEAR-ROUND, BUT THEY'LL USE AS A TERATOGEN.
>> I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE GREEN SPACE, ESPECIALLY AS THE TOWN GROWS SO NATURAL GREEN SPACE TOO.
>> I DID REACH OUT TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WITH LITERALLY MAYBE NOT OFFICIALLY AFFILIATED WITH THEM BUT THEY DID EMPHASIZE THESE OF LARGER FIELD.
IF THEY WERE TO GET ONE LARGER FIELD IS WAY TO GO.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING I'M GLAD THAT THEY PUT IT ON THERE TO GIVE US A FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR SPACE THAT IT WOULD TAKE UP.
>> I TELL YOU WHAT, NOT TO GO OFF ON THAT POINT.
BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT GROWTH IN THE CITY.
>> THEN WE HAVE TO CONSIDER MORE BALLFIELDS AND TO KEEP THEM CENTRALLY LOCATED.
I KNOW WE DID NOT PICK PUTTING THE BALL FIELDS AT FREEDOM PARK, BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE.
I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THINGS LOCATED.
IT'LL BE REALLY DIFFICULT FOR FAMILIES TO HAVE TO [OVERLAPPING] HAVE SONS, 10 AND 12 OR SOMEONE BE IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN TOWN THAT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
IT'S ALREADY TOUGH ENOUGH IF YOU HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO'S, SON THEY'RE ON BOTH SIDES TOWN. I WOULD BE OPEN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A POSSIBILITY, BUT I KNOW THE LONG LARGER FIELD AND THERE WAS A ONE SMALLER FIELD, A 200-FOOT FENCE, SMALLER FIELDS THAN THAT, BUT MAKE ONE LARGE 300-FOOT FENCE AND THEN ESSENTIALLY HAVE TWO, MAYBE 100-FOOT, ITS ESSENTIALLY A T-BALL FIELD BECAUSE THAT AGE, YOU CAN PROBABLY GET BY WITH A LITTLE LESS SPACE.
THOSE OTHER FOUR, THE POD, CAN BASICALLY BE A UTILITY FIELD.
YOU COULD USE ALL AGE DIFFERENT GROUPS, BUT YOU'RE VERY BEGINNERS, YOU'RE FIVE AND SIX-YEAR-OLDS.
100 FEET IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR A FIELD [LAUGHTER].
THEY'RE NOT HITTING IT THAT FAR I PROMISE.
>> I WANT TO SAY THE ONE ON THAT PLAN IS THAT I'M SORRY. [OVERLAPPING]
I'M JUST SAYING IF MAYBE IF YOU COULD SEMICIRCLE TWO HALF.
>> TWO 100-FOOT FENCES AND THEN YOUR POD BECOMES YOUR UTILITY WHERE WE GETS COVERED.
ALL AGES WHERE YOU'VE GOT BASICALLY SPILLOVER GAMES FROM THE YOUNGEST ALL THE WAY TO 12.
JUST AN OPPORTUNITY AND EASILY IF YOU HAVE THAT 300-FOOT FIELD, YOU CAN GO JUNIOR AND SENIOR, THEY EVEN HAVE WHAT THEY CALL 50-70 THESE DAYS THERE'S ALL SORTS OF VARIATIONS OF BASEBALL NOW.
>> WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE TEENAGE BASEBALL PLAYERS? I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY.
ANYTHING IN ANGLETON THAT THEY EVER PLAYED ON IS GONE.
THE HIGH SCHOOL, OLD MARKET STADIUM, IT'S GONE.
THERE WAS A FIELD ACROSS THAT, IT WAS A PRACTICE FIELD IT WAS ON THE NORTHSIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IT'S GONE.
THERE WAS A FIELD AT WELT PARK THAT WAS BASICALLY A TANK TRAIL WITH BASEBALL BASES THERE, IT'S GONE.
NAME ANOTHER ONE I MEAN THERE IS NO PLACE FOR TEENAGE BASEBALL PLAYERS TO PLAY AT ANGLETON.
[OVERLAPPING] THERE WAS A REASON BACK IN EARLY PART OF FREEDOM PARK,
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THEY WERE PULLING FOR A 300-FOOT FIELD OUT THERE BECAUSE, WELL, I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY IF ANGLETON HIGH AS D IS GOING TO LET LITTLE ITALY BOYS PLAY ON THE HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL FIELD.I JUST KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
[OVERLAPPING] THEY HAVE GOT OTHER PLACES TO PLAY.
>> I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHY ANGLETON IST BUT IS THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT BECOMES 5A, IF NOT 6A.
HOW THEY'RE GOING TO OPERATE WITH ONE BASEBALL FIELD.
I'VE NEVER WANTED TO WONDER WHY THEY'VE NEVER TRIED TO DEVELOP A JV FIELD OR TO CONTACT WITH US THE CITY AND SAY, "HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WORK TOGETHER FOR A JV BECAUSE WE'RE JUST A STONE'S THROW FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL WITH US AS KIDS CAN WALK FROM THEIR LOCKER ROOMS TO GET TO FREEDOM PARK." I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S MAYBE TOO FAR BUT I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHY IF YOU HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE YOU'RE CARRYING A FRESHMAN, A JV, AND A VARSITY, AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE FIELD AND I DON'T KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHY [OVERLAPPING].
>> I DO LIKE TO MOVE ON FROM THE BASEBALL THE AUXILIARY OR ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE AS THEY PUT ON THE EAST SIDE.
>> YES, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT, I ALSO MENTIONED THAT.
>> BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ONLY GOING THERE TO ACCESS THE TRAILS AND SORT OF I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH EVERYTHING.
>> ABSOLUTELY. ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ALL BASEBALL PARKING.
NOW YOU GET SOMEBODY ACTUALLY USE THE PARKING AND TRILL STRUCTURES.
>> THE OTHER THING TO NOTE TOO, IS THAT THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY BEHIND RANCHO ISABELLA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THEY HAVE ALSO A PROGRAM THAT OR COULD PROGRAM THAT ALSO BACK BEHIND THAT AREA.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A DITCH AND THERE'S THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO THEIR SITE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK AROUND.
BUT THERE IS USABLE SPACE AND YOU CAN TELL JUST IN THIS ONE, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS EXPAND YOUR LOOP TRAIL.
MINIMALLY EXPANDING WALKABILITY WHICH IS WHAT IS OUR NUMBER ONE ASK IN THE MASTERING STRATEGIC PLAN AND ALSO IN THIS SURVEY.
ANYTIME PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND YOU GET CLOSE TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> REALLY THE CITY OF ANGLETON GENERALS IS NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.
YOU GET THERE BY BIKE, WALK OVER YOURSELF.
>> ARE YOU GUYS HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR THINGS THAT I CAN NOTE ARE PORTRAYED TO BIRD IT AS THEY'RE WORKING ON THE THREE CONCEPT PLANS.
THINGS THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY WANT TO SEE OR THINGS YOU COULD CARELESS TO SEE THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.
>> WELL, NOW I WILL REITERATE SOMETHING FROM PARKS IN AVLC MEETINGS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT A SHADE STRUCTURE, SOME TYPE MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY PAVILION BUT WHETHER IT'S POLES WITH A SALE COVERING, SOMETHING OF THAT ASPECT, JUST FOR BEING OUT THERE AND PROBABLY CLOSER TO WHAT THEY'RE CALLING LIKE THE FAMILY SPACE AREA.
JUST BEING ABLE TO BE AT THE PARK IN THE DEAD OF SUMMER AND NOT BEING DIRECTLY IN THE SUN.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH PARKS AND REC ON THE TREES THEY'VE BEEN PLANTED FOR FOLKS TO TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO CREATE THE SHADE STRUCTURE.
BUT I KNOW THEY PLANTED THOSE OUT THERE AND I THINK IN ALONG THERE WILL BE SOME NICE SHADE STRUCTURE THE OCS WILL PRESENT, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE LONG-TERM THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER.
>> BUT IT'S GOING TO START NOW. IF YOU DON'T.
>> AS A PARENT, MY KIDS LOVE GOING OUT THERE TO PLAY.
THAT DOES HAVE SHADE STRUCTURES ALREADY ON THE PLAYGROUND SET ITSELF.
ANYTHING TO ENHANCE THAT PORTION OF THE PARK.
IF YOU'RE OUT THERE WITH LILLY.
I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS TURNING MY KIDS LOOSE OVER THERE, AND BEING AT THE LILLY FIELDS AT THE SAME TIME.
KEEP AN EYE ON BUT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE SAFETY FEATURES OVER THERE, IT'S A NICE PARK, AND YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THE TREES ALREADY LINING THE TRAILS.
ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK ANYTIME YOU ADD TO NATURE, TREES, SHADE STRUCTURES,
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WINDBREAKERS, THEY TAKE TIME TO DEVELOP, BUT IT'S LONG TERM.IT WILL PAY OFF MORE IN THE LONG TERM. I THINK.
>>MEGHAN, HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO HAVING THE AREA, NORTH OF RANCHO IS DESIGNED FOR THE EXCAVATION THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE WIND-ROWS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS LITTLE BLUE FOOTPRINT THAT'S SHOWN HERE IS ADEQUATE OR NEAR LARGE.
>> NO, NOT AT ALL, AND SO JUST TO REVIEW, THE PHASE THAT WE'RE IN, IF SOME OF YOU GUYS WERE INVOLVED IN LAKESIDE PARK THAT INITIALLY STARTED WITH CONCEPT PROGRAMMING, PROGRAM AMENITIES, CONCEPT PLANS, A FINAL CONCEPT PLAN, AND WE MOVED INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE'RE JUST CONCLUDING WITH CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS GOING OUT TO BID, AND THEN ACTUALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
WE'RE IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER OF A POSITION BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNER THAT IS PAYING FOR THE DESIGN SPECIFICALLY OVER THE POND, NOT THIS ENTIRE CONCEPT, BUT WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW IS IN THAT WE'RE IN THAT APRIL PHASE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST PROGRAM FINDINGS.
IN MAY WE'LL HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH YOU ALL, AVLC, AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO LOOK AT THREE ACTUAL CONCEPTS.
WE WILL BE ASKING TO WHITTLE THAT DOWN TO ONE, AND THEY WILL FINALIZE THAT.
WHEN WE WHITTLED DOWN TO ONE, WE WILL START COORDINATING WITH ACTUALLY DESIGNING THAT POND BECAUSE THE CONCEPTS WILL HAVE, WHILE THEY STILL MAY BE LITTLE BUBBLE FIGURES, IT WILL BE A BUBBLING FIGURE OF A POND HERE OR LITTLE, OR WHETHER IT'S THREE OR WHATEVER YOU SAW AND WHAT WAS DEPICTED HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT YET LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THOSE CONCEPTS YET.
BUT ONCE YOU ALL PICK A CONCEPT, WE WILL START WORKING WITH THEM ON DESIGN.
>> I THINK THAT CONCEPT NEEDS TO TAKE IN THE FACT, APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH SURFACE AREA IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
>> ABSOLUTELY, IT CERTAINLY WILL BE.
>> THE ENGINEERS WITH CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE ENGINEERS WITH [INAUDIBLE] CONSULTANTS.
THEY WILL BEGIN SPEAKING AS SOON AS WE GET THOSE CONCEPTS ON PAPER IN FRONT OF US SO THAT THEY CAN ENSURE THAT THE TENSION CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO IS CONGRUENT WITH THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING.
WE DON'T WANT TO PRESENT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT EVEN, CANNOT BE REFLECTED IN REALITY.
>> NO DOG PARK. THAT'S MY COMMENT.
>>THAT'S IT, THAT'S WHAT YOU GET.
>> I THOUGHT YOU HAD YOUR OWN DOG PARK? [INAUDIBLE] , DON'T YOU MOW A YOUR OWN DOG PARK THE OTHER DAY?
>> I WOULD GLADLY GO MOW A DOG PARK IF YOU WANT TO GO PUT A BRUSH AND BIO.
I'LL TAKE MY ZERO TURNOVERS THERE EVERY WEEK, FOR YOU [INAUDIBLE].
>> KNOW THE PROGRAMMING FOR THIS PARK SHOULD NOT INCLUDE A DOG PARK.
I MEAN, I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARK IS FOR.
WE CAN'T CRAM EVERYTHING IN HERE, SO WE NEED IT FOR ANYTHING.
AS TRAVIS STATED, THIS WAS BUILT REALLY FOR ITALY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE HOMES HERE.
SO IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ROOM FOR EXPANSION.
IF WE PUT THE 300-FOOT FIELD IN AND WE CAN GET ANOTHER TWO FIELDS, MAYBE WE DON'T DO IT IMMEDIATELY.
BUT JUST LIKE BATES AND VICKI PARK, WE DIDN'T HAVE A FIELD FIVE.
IT CAME ALONG LATER, BUT WE LEFT IT OPEN OVER THERE TO WHERE WE COULD DO IT.
I THINK PUTTING A DOG PARK THERE WOULD TAKE UP THE SPOT THAT REALLY BELONGS TO ANOTHER FIELD IN THE FUTURE SO WE CAN KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER.
THEN MY OTHER COMMENT, AND I KNOW WE CAN'T WE'RE NOT REALLY SAYING EVERYTHING'S GOING TO GO RIGHT WHERE IT GOES.
BUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT AN AMPHITHEATER, DID WE SAY THE AMPHITHEATER OR A COVERED PAVILION, OR DID WE JUST SAY AMPHITHEATER? BECAUSE I REMEMBER JAIME'S COMMENT WAS HE DIDN'T WANT AN AMPHITHEATER IF IT MEANT THAT WE WERE GOING TO LOSE SHADE BECAUSE WE NEED MORE SHADE OUT THERE.
>> I DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT THOSE WERE SYNONYMOUS.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE [OVERLAPPING] WHERE.
JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT DESIGN LOOKS LIKE, IT COULD BE.
I MEAN, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT AND EARTHEN HILL.
I MEAN, THAT'S NO CANOPY STRUCTURE.
SO WE'RE NOT EVEN TO THE POINT OF A DESIGN, AGAIN, A CONCEPT PLAN.
JUST IMAGINE BUBBLES ON A PAGE.
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I MEAN, WE HAVE NOT EVEN TRANSITIONED INTO THE DESIGN PHASE OF THAT.SO IF YOU KNOW AND YOU WANT TO COMMIT TO AN AMPHITHEATER, THEN WE CAN NOTE THAT AND WE KNOW THAT WE NEED SHADE OUT THERE. WE WILL ADDRESS THAT.
WE DON'T NEED THE BASKETBALL COURTS THERE.
SO BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BASKETBALL COURTS RIGHT ACROSS RANCHO, IT'S A SCHOOL DISTRICT OR SCHOOL DISTRICT BASKETBALL.
SUPPOSE IT'S REALLY NICE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE USE IT OVER THERE.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO REPLICATE SOME OF IT'S JUST YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE THE OTHER ONE.
>> IF YOU LOOK ON THAT SECOND PAGE TWO, AGAIN, JUST BRING YOUR EYE TO THE BAR GRAPH.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PUBLIC INPUT WAS.
BASKETBALL WAS ACTUALLY THE LOWEST ON THE LIST, YOU HAD VOLLEYBALL HIGHER THAN THAT.
SO JUST THINGS TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.
WHILE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD HAS HAD THIS CONVERSATION MANY TIMES AND LIKE WE HAD SAID ALREADY, WE HAVE A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED AREAS WITHIN OUR PARK SYSTEM THAT WE CAN CONSIDER SOME OF THESE AMENITIES FOR.
THEY DON'T ALL HAVE TO BE IN FREEDOM PARK.
WE DON'T HAVE TO PACK THIS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PROGRAM IT.
WHAT I WILL ASK OF YOU IS THAT YOU DO CONSIDER THE INPUT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC SO THAT YOU KEEP THOSE OTHER AMENITIES IN MIND FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER PARKS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED.
LET ME DRAW AN IDEA THAT HAS PROBABLY BEEN THROWN OUT MAYBE NOT THE PLACE TO DO THIS.
WE JUST DECONSTRUCT PART OF A GAZEBO, THEN THEY'LL BE A POSSIBILITY FOR DOING A COMPLETE THEIR SUCH.
>> I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE NOW. IT'S NICE.
YOU CAN CREATE A NICE AMPHITHEATER, SEATING ON THE LAWN STAGE ESSENTIALLY TO DO PRESENTATIONS.
>> I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ARBITRARY.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT ON FOR SURE. [LAUGHTER]
>> OKAY. ANYMORE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
>> IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAPS, IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD, THEY SAY SOUTH COUNTY ROAD 48, AND THEN FURTHER BELOW THAT, IT SAYS NORTH VELASCO STREET.
IT'S NOT ALL OF THEM LIKE THAT, THAT SHOULD BE NORTH VALDEZ.
>> BUT IT SAYS VELASCO, WHICH IS BUSINESS TO 88, AND IT'S ON ALL OF THEM.
>>THAT'S WHY YOU'RE THE MAYOR.
>> [LAUGHTER] I LOOK AT ANGLETON TO MAKE SURE THEY SPELL IT RIGHT.
I SAW THAT, I WAS LIKE, OKAY. [LAUGHTER]
>> WHILE WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC, [LAUGHTER] THE ZONING MAPS AND STUFF, I NOTICED THAT ON [INAUDIBLE] ROAD, YOU GO [INAUDIBLE] SOUTH TILL YOU GET ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THERE IS A SEGMENT IN THERE THAT HAS JAMESON.
THEN WHEN YOU GET A LITTLE FURTHER, IT'S [INAUDIBLE] AGAIN.
I CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR CATCHING THAT.
I WILL LET THEM KNOW. [LAUGHTER]
>> OKAY. I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THOSE COMMENTS BACK. [LAUGHTER]
>> MOVING RIGHT ALONG, NUMBER 32.
[32. Discussion and possible action on Gateway Master Plan.]
QUESTION? [OVERLAPPING].>> [INAUDIBLE] ACTION ON GATEWAY MASTER PLAN.
>>YES. IN 2019, KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL COMMISSION BUDGETED FOR GATEWAY MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS THAT WAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITY BRANDING, BEFORE WE WENT THROUGH A GATEWAY MASTER PLAN, THAT IS WHAT INITIATED THAT BRANDING COMPONENT.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY NEW INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY WAS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE WANTED OUR BRAND TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ALL VERY AWARE OF THE BRANDING COMPONENT THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH IN THE LAST YEAR.
THAT PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED IN 2019.
NOW THAT WE'VE COMPLETED THAT PROJECT AND HAVE ADOPTED A CORPORATE ID PACKAGE, WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REST OF THAT PLAN, WHICH IS THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN.
I HAVE JASON MILLER HERE WITH KART CONDON.
WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE IS JUST TO PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROJECT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THIS IS SOMETHING KAB HAS BEEN WORKING TOWARDS.
THE PRESENTATION THAT IS ALSO IN YOUR PACKET THAT JASON IS GOING TO GO OVER WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO KAB.
WE HAD SOME OF YOU ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL WHEN WE HAD INITIATED THE GATEWAY PROJECT, SO THIS IS A RECAP OF THAT PRESENTATION.
THERE REALLY IS NOT ANYTHING NEW HERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR NEW BRAND.
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I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JASON TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW BEFORE KAB PICKS THIS BACK UP AT THE END OF THE MONTH.>> THANK YOU, MEGHAN. EVENING, EVERYBODY, COUNCIL.
I'M GOING TO PRESENT THAT THING SO LET ME KNOW IF EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT WHEN IT COMES UP.
>> OKAY. GO FULL SCREEN SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE WHOLE THING.
LIKE MEGHAN SAID, WE STARTED THIS WAY BACK IN 2019.
BUT REALLY, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS RECAP THIS BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE NEW BRAND AND EVERYTHING TO LOOK AT GATEWAY'S IDENTITY AND THAT INCORPORATES WAYFINDING SIGNAGE AS WELL.
THIS ACTUALLY DOVETAILS A LITTLE BIT INTO THE PRESENTATION THAT DON MADE WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] CENTER STUDY BECAUSE SHE TOUCHED ON BRANDING AND IDENTITY AS IT RELATES TO THAT DISTRICT.
THIS RELATES TO SOME OF THAT AS WELL.
BUT THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS HOW DO WE TRANSLATE THAT BRAND AND THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE CITY OR NOTIFY PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE COMING INTO THE CITY, THAT THEY ARE ENTERING INTO ANGLETON AND THEY ARE DOING IT IN A NICE WAY, AS WELL AS DIRECTING THEM TO THE FEATURES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AS WELL AS PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE TO GET AROUND IF THEY DO NOT ALREADY KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH NEW THINGS COMING UP DAILY.
AS YOU MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN PREVIOUSLY, I WILL GO BACK REAL QUICK, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN THROUGH PEARLAND, STAFFORD, SUGARLAND, ANY OF THOSE PLACES, YOU'VE SEEN THINGS LIKE THIS WHERE WE HAVE DONE GATEWAY MONUMENT STATION BEFORE.
AN IDENTITY CAN TAKE UP MANY FEATURES THAT CAN BE WAYFINDING, IT CAN BE SIGNAGE LIKE THIS THAT TALKS ABOUT EVENT THAT IS GOING ON IN THE CITY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT CAN TAKE MANY FORMS WHEN IT COMES TO THE IDENTITY TO WAYFINDING IDEA.
WHERE WE STARTED WITH THIS PROCESS AS WE LOOKED AT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES AND CONSTRAINTS AND EXISTING CONDITIONS WE HAD WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT YOUR WAYFINDING CAN GET YOU TO THESE PLACES LIKE SOME OF THE VISITOR CENTERS, TYING IT BACK TO THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS ARE THE COUNTY SEAT, SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING ANGLETON.
HOW DID YOU GET THROUGH THERE? HOW DID THEY KNOW WHEN THEY'RE HERE? SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT MORE OF A GRANDER STATEMENT AS YOU COME INTO THE CITY.
OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IMAGE, THE HEART THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY USED IN SOME PLACES AS THE START OF THAT STATEMENT, WE'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THAT IN A BIGGER CONTEXT WITH ALL THE RELATIVE HEARTS THAT YOU'VE HAD BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THAT YOU HAVE A START OF A CONCEPT OF THAT BRAINIER GATEWAY MONUMENTATION.
THE KEY WITH THIS IS THOUGH WE THINK THAT THE SCALE OF SOME OF THESE RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE PLACES PUTTING THEM, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, COMING IN OFF THE 288 AND 35, THE SCALE NEEDS TO BE MUCH LARGER TO PICK UP PEOPLE COMING AT THOSE SPEEDS AND AT THOSE LOCATIONS.
THE INTENT WITH THIS IS JUST LIKE WHAT DON WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE [INAUDIBLE] CENTER STUDY.
THESE CAN BE REPURPOSED INTO SOMETHING MORE OF A SCULPTURAL HISTORIC MONUMENT THAT CAN BE USED EITHER IN A PARK SPACE IN DOWNTOWN OR AS PART OF YOUR WALKING EXPERIENCE TO DOWNTOWN OR IT COULD BE IN A PARK SOMEWHERE.
OUR INTENT IS NOT TO JUST SCRAP ALL THIS, BUT TO INCORPORATE IT AS PART OF THE HISTORY THAT ANGLETON HAS.
THEN ALSO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE LOOKED AT SOME THINGS LIKE DOING BETA PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WOULD ALSO TIE INTO THIS DISCUSSION.
WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD IS HOW DO WE START TO DEVELOP A HIERARCHY OF WHERE THESE GATEWAYS COULD POSSIBLY TAKE PLACE, AS WELL AS WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOCUSING WAYFINDING IN IDENTITY SIGNAGE? ON THIS MAP, IT SHOWS YOU OBVIOUSLY, THE BIGGEST INTERSECTION YOU HAVE WITH THE TRAFFIC IS 288 AND 35.
THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE YOUR LARGEST IDENTITY STRUCTURES BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO TOWN FROM OUT OF THE CITY.
THEN THE LOCATIONS THAT ARE LABELED B HERE, WE DO WANT TO CAPTURE THEM ON THE OUTSKIRTS AS WELL, WHERE YOU FIRST COME INTO THE CITY LIMITS.
YOU HAVE A HIERARCHY OF THIS, YOUR SECONDARY MARKERS, YOUR CS AND DS.
THOSE ARE OUR TERTIARY IDEAS, THOSE ARE MORE SURFACE STREETS.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING INTO THOSE POINTS.
LOOKING AT THOSE LOCATIONS AS PLACES WHERE WE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT SCALE OR DIFFERENT TYPE OF BONDING MUTATION OR SIGNAGE.
BUT GOING BACK TO ALL THE PLACES THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TO SEE, TO DO, TO COME TO THE CITY, WE FOCUSED ON THE DOWNTOWN AREA, IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU COULD FOCUS THE START THIS PROGRAM.
I'M LOOKING AT THE WAYFINDING AND SIGNAGE AND HOW YOU GET THROUGH THE CITY AND GET PEOPLE FROM 288, FOR EXAMPLE, TO, SAY, THE COURTHOUSE.
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THEN LASTLY, WHERE WE LEFT OFF AT THE END OF 2019, EARLY 2020, WAS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MATERIALITY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS? LOOKING AT THE IDEA THAT TYING BACK TO SOME OF THE HISTORY WITH THE PRESENT, THEN EVEN LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE, HOW DO WE PULL THOSE MATERIALS THAT WOULD REALLY TELL THE STORY OF THE HISTORY OF ANGLETON, BUT ALSO HOW WE WANT TO LEAD OURSELVES INTO THE FUTURE AND GOING FORWARD SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A MIXTURE OF THINGS LIKE STONES, BRICKS, AND EVEN STARTING TO LOOK AT METALS AS PART OF THESE AND STRUCTURES THAT REALLY HELP TELL THAT STORY.LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS A RECAP OF THAT EARLY CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WAY BACK THEN, AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO KICK THIS BACK OFF AND START GOING INTO COMING UP WITH SOME CONCEPTS FOR THESE GATEWAYS, THESE MONUMENTS, AND THESE SIGNAGE.
THAT WILL BE OUR NEXT STEP THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH MEGHAN AND THE GROUP, AND WE WILL BE PRESENTING THOSE PRETTY SOON, I THINK LATER THIS MONTH.
WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OPEN UP ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE RELATIVE TO THE START AND THE KICK OFF OF THIS, AND WE HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON WHEN WE START PRESENTING SOME CONCEPTS.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MEGHAN.
>> DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WHENEVER WE ADOPTED THE NEW BRAND WAS WE WERE NOT GOING TO MESS WITH THE HEARTS.
WE DEFINITELY KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, FOR ME, THERE WAS A LINE IN THE SAND.
WE WEREN'T GOING TO MESS WITH THE HEARTS THAT WE HAVE AT ALL THE LOCATIONS.
THAT WAS WHAT WE ALL AGREED ON AT THAT TIME.
I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO PUT MORE SIGNAGE UP, BUT WE LEAVE THE HEARTS WHERE THEY ARE.
IF YOU GO BACK, I THINK IT WAS TWO SLIDES, WHERE YOU HAD THE SIGNAGE AND HOW YOU HAD THEM RANKED RIGHT THERE, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT RANKING.
I BELIEVE A IS WHERE B IS AT THE TOP BECAUSE EVERYONE COMING DOWN TO 288, IF YOU PUT A BIG SIGN THERE, YOU CATCH THEM AT 523, YOU CATCH THEM COMING INTO TOWN, AND THESE SHOULD BE WHERE THE A IS.
REALLY, IT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF 35 BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN FROM ALVIN AS WELL COMING DOWN, SO I CAN SEE THREE BS, THE ONE AT 35 AND 288, THE ONE AT 35 AND 523, AND THEN THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE DONE THERE IN THE BOTTOM AT AIRPORT ROAD.
BUT THAT IS JUST MY TAKE BECAUSE AS SOMEBODY WHO HEARS FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN HOUSTON COME DOWN OUR WAY AND THEY ARE COMING DOWN TO THE BEACHES OR COMING DOWN FOR SOMETHING, THEY KNOW THEY'RE IN ANGLETON WHEN THEY SEE THE GREEN GRASS THAT'S ALL CUT IN THE MEDIANS AND ALL THE BEAUTIFICATION THAT WE HAVE DONE DOWN THE HIGHWAY.
THAT'S WHERE YOU PUT YOUR BIG ANGLETON SIGN, ESPECIALLY AS THE CITY IS GROWING ALONG THAT SIDE ANYWAYS.
>> YEAH. WELL, I LIVED IN ANGLETON AND DROVE DOWN HERE FOR EIGHT YEARS.
I TURNED OFF AT BUSINESS 288, FROM 288, SO I DO AGREE.
I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE YOUR FIRST, IS THE 288, 288, 521 INTERSECTION OR WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL, WOULD YOUR PRIMARY.
>> BECAUSE NORTH IS STILL MUCH MORE DENSELY POPULATED.
>> WELL, IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY ANGLETON THERE.
>> NOT AS CLOSE AS [INAUDIBLE] OR WHEREVER IT IS.
>> I WAS SAYING RIGHT BEFORE THE DEALERSHIPS.
>> WHEREVER YOU FIRST COME INTO ANGLETON.
>> NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. WHENEVER I COME BACK FROM HOUSTON, I USUALLY TURN DOWN 288B RIGHT FROM 288, BUT THAT IS STILL NOT ANGLETON.
IT'S STILL [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY, SO I DON'T [INAUDIBLE].
>> I DON'T THINK HE SAID GET RID OF THE HEARTS, I THOUGHT HE SAID GET THEM BIGGER. [LAUGHTER]
>> YEAH, I DON'T RECALL THAT EITHER. I APOLOGIZE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NOT GET RID OF THEM, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THEM BIGGER IN ALL FORT. [LAUGHTER]
>> I DON'T THINK THE INTENT IS TO GET RID OF THEM. [OVERLAPPING]
>> JASON, WILL YOU TELL US THE SIZE OF STAFFORD AND IOWA COLONY AND PEARLAND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 288?
>> YEAH. FOR EXAMPLE, IN COMPARISON, THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE HERE, THIS ONE AND TWO WHICH IS RIGHT AT THAT 288 35 ENTRANCE.
THIS THING IS ABOUT 10 FEET TALL.
THE MONUMENTS WE'RE GETTING READY TO CONSTRUCT ON 288 IN PEARLAND ALONG THIS SAME QUARTER ARE 40 FOOT TALL.
THE MONUMENT THAT I SHOWED IN THE FIRST IMAGE FOR PEARLAND,
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WHICH IS ON THEIR LOCAL STREETS, IS 24 FEET TALL.[OVERLAPPING] THE ONE IN STAFFORD IS PROBABLY 40 FOOT TALL AND SO IS THE ONES IN PEARLAND.
THE INTENT IS WHEN YOU START GOING DOWN HIGHWAY SPEEDS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OVERPASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS.
NOBODY EVEN KNOWS THAT YOU'RE SEEING ANGLETON WHERE THIS LOCATION IS.
THE INTENT IS NOT TO TAKE THESE AWAY, IT'S ABOUT TO RELOCATE THEM TO A PLACE WHERE THE SCALE OF THESE HEARTS CAN BE UTILIZED IN A CONTEXT WHERE PEOPLE WOULD UTILIZE THEM AND SEE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE OF A WALKABLE SCALE AS OPPOSED TO A STREET SIGNAGE SCALE.
THAT WAS REALLY THE INTENT WHEN I SAID REPURPOSE, MEANING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST ALSO GET RID OF THEM AND THROW THEM AWAY, WE'RE GOING TO REUSE THEM IN A PLACE WHERE THE SCALE IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SIZE THEY ARE.
>> YEAH. THAT COULD BE A DECISION THE COUNCIL MAKES IS WHERE DO WE THINK THE BEST UTILIZATION OF THESE HEARTS CAN BE? ARE THEY USED IN PARKS? ARE THEY USED IN A DOWNTOWN SITUATION? DO THEY TIE BACK TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE LOCAL CENTERS STUDY? THEY TIE INTO SOME OF THAT WALKS AND SCULPTURE? IT COULD BE UTILIZED IN A MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
I JUST THINK YOU NEED TO GET THESE INTO A POINT WHERE THEY ARE MORE OF A SCALE RELATIVE TO PEDESTRIANS THAN THEY ARE 288 AND VEHICLES DOING 70 MILE AN HOUR.
>> MAYBE THIS IS JUST A CITY COUNCIL AND THEN MEGHAN.
TO ME, THEY SHOULD BE MORE UNIFORM.
SOME ARE EMPTY IN THE MIDDLE AND SOME HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS ANGLETON, ANOTHER ONE HAS AN ADVERTISEMENT, I THINK CONDOM, ON ONE OF THEM THERE IN MEDIAN.
>> IT'S WAY-FINDING FOR THE CHIEF POLICE.
>> IS THERE ANYWAY WE COULD JUST DO AWAY WITH THAT?
>> THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE GATEWAY.
THE OUTCOME OF THIS PLAN IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST LIKE YOU HAD WITH THE CORPORATE ID PACKAGE.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY YOUR SIGNAGE PACKAGE FOR THE CITY.
WHEN WE LOOK AT PARK SIGNAGE, YOU GO TO MASTERSON, YOU GO TO FREEDOM, YOU GO TO DICKEY, OR BATES, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PARK SIGNAGE.
OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO REFERENCE.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTRY WAYS, WE'RE LOOKING AT WAY-FINDING SIGNAGE, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER FACILITY AND PARK SIGNAGE SO THAT YOU HAVE A PACKAGE.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR SIGNAGE MASTER PLAN IS, BASICALLY.
[OVERLAPPING] IT WILL INCLUDE THE SIGNS.
>> WELL, WE STARTED OFF WITH BRANDING.
[OVERLAPPING] YES, WE'RE INCORPORATING ALL OF THAT.
>> IS THERE ANYWAY WE COULD SAY PUT ONE IN THE HAND OF STEPHEN F AUSTIN? [LAUGHTER]
>> YOU COULD JUST USE STEPHEN F AUSTIN EVERYWHERE AND JUST PAINT IT PURPLE.
>> HE COULD HOLD ONE. HE COULD SHOW YOU.
>> WHAT MEGHAN IS TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THE REASON WHY WE WAITED FOR THE BRANDING ASPECT TO BE COMPLETE IS THAT ASPECTS OF THAT BRAND NEEDS TO BE TRANSLATED SOMEHOW INTO THIS SIGNAGE AND WAY-FINDING PACKAGE, BECAUSE THE WAY-FINDING SIGNAGE PACKAGE SHOULD TRANSLATE INTO WHAT THE CITY IS ALL ABOUT, WHICH IS YOUR BRAND.
WE'RE TRYING TO COMPILE ALL THAT TOGETHER INTO MONUMENTATION THAT CAN BE USED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THAT TELLS THAT STORY THROUGHOUT, EVEN THOUGH IF IT'S NOT EXACT REPLICATION OF THE LOGO.
BECAUSE IN SOME CASES, WHEN ENVIRONMENTAL GRAPHICS OR EXACTLY GOING INTO TEXT RIGHT AWAY, THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO WHEN IT COMES TO WORDS.
THERE'S GOT TO BE DIFFERENT WAYS TO TELL THAT STORY THAT'S NOT JUST REPLICATING THE EXACT BRAND, BUT HOW DO WE TELL THAT STORY IN DIFFERENT WAYS? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COME TO YOU GUYS WITH HERE LATER THIS MONTH AND SHOW YOU WAYS THAT CAN HAPPEN.
THE THING ABOUT THIS, LIKE THE IMAGES WERE SHOWING HERE, THAT'S THE THING THAT WE SEE IS THAT IT'S NOT SHOWING A CONSISTENT MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY ABOUT ANGLETON, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL VERY DIFFERENT AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY TO THE SCALE THAT YOU NEED THEM FOR THE APPROPRIATE MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CONVEY IN THESE LOCATIONS.
>> JUST TO ADD ON TO WHAT JASON WAS LEADING ON TO.
LATER THIS MONTH, WE WILL HAVE A KAB MEETING WHERE SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS WILL BE PRESENTED.
OF COURSE, WE'LL KEEP YOU GUYS IN A LOOP AND PROVIDE YOU UPDATES AND YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY WELCOME TO COME TO THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL.
>> DOES IT COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT ALL OR IS THIS A DECISION MADE BY KB?
>> THEY ARE FUNDING THE PROJECT, BUT NO, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL DEFINITELY GO THROUGH YOU ALL AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL COMMISSION, SO YOU GUYS WILL SEE THIS AGAIN.
YOU CAN BE AS INVOLVED AS YOU WOULD LIKE.
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>> YOU MAY HAVE TO REVISIT THE PLACEMENT OF SOME OF THOSE.
>> YEAH. AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> JUST A SEC. THE ONE AT YOU COME UNDER THE OVERPASS, 288 COMING IN ON 35, THE FIRST ONE TO THE RIGHT.
THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF YOU GOT TO WATCH, THE CAR MOVING IS AND STUFF, YOU REALLY GET DISTRACTED FROM THE CAR.
IF IT WAS FURTHER INTO TOWN, I THINK IT MIGHT CATCH YOUR EYE.
I KNOW IT'S THERE, BUT I'M WATCHING THE TRAFFIC DRIVING THROUGH THERE.
>> WELL, YOU PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT'S 40 FOOT, YOU'LL SEE IT. [LAUGHTER]
>> NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. BECAUSE THEN IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO SEE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, TYPICALLY WHERE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THESE IS ACTUALLY UP AGAINST TOWARDS THE HIGHWAY ITSELF.
>> A LOT OF THEM ARE WELL PLACED AROUND TOWN.
IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE YOU COULD PUT IT AT THE TIME, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO RETHINK WHERE IT'S GOING.
>> I WILL TAKE ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND INCORPORATE THEM INTO OUR UPDATE AS WE GO FORWARD FOR LATER THIS MONTH TOO.
WE'LL REVISIT SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING, AND THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY ZOOM IN AND START LOOKING AT SPECIFIC POINTS ALONG THOSE INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE THINK THAT WOULD BE.
THIS WAS JUST THE OVERVIEW OF THE GENERAL IDEA WHERE WE THOUGHT THAT THE BEST LOCATIONS.
LIKE YOU SAID, WE WANT YOUR INPUT, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN NECESSARY THAN ALL OF US WHERE EVERYBODY TRAVELS MORE, SAY THAN I WOULD.
EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN DOWN THERE QUITE A BIT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD MENTIONED OVER A YEAR AGO WAS ADDRESSING THE AREA AND COUNTY ROAD 44.
THAT WASN'T NECESSARY WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A DIRECT EXIT TO GET TO COUNTY ROAD 44 IF YOU'RE GOING NORTH OR IT'S NOT THE EASIEST WAY TO GET THERE.
IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A MAJOR ENTRY POINT INTO THE CITY, SO IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED SOMEHOW.
>> YOU'RE HAVING A COMPLICATION WITH THE WALL IS INCORRECT. [LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, JASON
>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
>> YES, SIR. MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
NUMBER 33, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON AMENDING
[33. Discussion and possible action on amending Chapter 28 Zoning of the Code of Ordinances and amending the zoning map.]
CHAPTER 28 ZONING OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND ADMITTING THE ZONING MAP.>> WE'VE HAD THESE MAIN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE ARTICULATE WHAT WE WANT IN ANGLETON OR DON'T WANT IN ANGLETON AND WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE.
HAD REQUESTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TALK ABOUT THIS, TO POTENTIALLY TAKE ACTION OR CHANGE THINGS.
THIS IS THE LANGUAGE WE CAME UP WITH TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION AND OR POTENTIAL ACTION TO SHAPE ANGLETON.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, SO WE KNOW THIS IS THE HOT TOPIC OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR THE LAST PROBABLY A YEAR OR SO.
NOW THAT A LOT OF THINGS ARE COMING TO FRUITION, WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING WHAT WE'VE AGREED ON, EVEN 2019.
NOW IT'S, IS IT REALLY WHAT WE WANT AFTER WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT.
NOW WE'RE LIKE STEPPING ON THE BRAKES LITTLE BIT HERE.
OPEN DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND WE PROBABLY WON'T SOLVE IT ALL TONIGHT.
WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT 11:30, WE STILL HAVE STAFF THAT HAS TO COME IN THE MORNING AND WE STILL HAVE THREE MORE ACTION ITEMS. WE'RE HERE FOR THE HEALTHY DEBATE, CONSTRUCTIVE DEBATE.
NO HARD FEELINGS GUYS. WE'RE SIX OF US.
WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE NEED INPUT FROM ALL. PLEASE SPEAK UP.
WE CAN BE INFLUENCED, WE CAN BE INFLUENCERS, BUT THIS IS US.
THERE ARE SIX OF US HERE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A VIABLE SOLUTION, WHAT WE THINK [NOISE] RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT BUT WE WANT TO START MOVING IN A NEW DIRECTION.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I DO HAVE COMMENTS BUT I'LL WAIT FOR YOU GUYS TO SPEAK.
YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME. THE FLOOR IS YOURS ALL. IT'S 11:30.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, ONE, FOR THE MOST PART, WE DON'T WANT TO ANALYZE.
NOW, DO WE WANT TO CUT OURSELVES OFF AND JUST SAY, WELL, WE'RE JUST NOT EVEN GOING TO ALLOW IT AND TAKE AWAY THOSE ZONING REFERENCES OR DO WE KEEP ON THE SAME TRACK? WELL, THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE HERE, THEY'RE HERE.
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DO WE WANT TO LEAVE IT UP TO FUTURE MEETINGS AND DECISIONS AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR US TO PICK AND CHOOSE? JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TAKE OFF THE BOARD ALTOGETHER BUT THEN BOARDS CHANGE, VIEWS OF THINGS CHANGE.IF THEY WANT TO GO SMALLER, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE IT AGAIN, OR NEW AMENDMENT OR WHATEVER.
I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE THINK ABOUT.
>> I'LL GO NEXT. IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
THERE'S A TON OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD THOSE.
FORTY IS MORE AFFORDABLE OBVIOUSLY AND BUILDERS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY MAKE MORE BANK FOR THEIR BUCK.
BUT IF YOU MAKE IT 60, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO EITHER HAVE EMPTY HOUSES, DEVELOPERS AREN'T GOING TO COME.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD.
YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN.
BELIEVE ME, I WANT TO 60 FOOT LOTS.
[LAUGHTER] BUT IF YOU BUILD 40 FOOT LOTS, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN APARTMENTS CAN AFFORD THAT HOUSE.
YOU BUILD 60 FOOT LOTS, BUILDERS ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ARE WE GOING TO BE INCLUSIVE OR EXCLUSIVE? IT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.
>> AS MARK WAS SAYING, ARE WE GOING TO DO IT ACROSS THE BOARD, OR ARE WE GOING TO DO IT DEVELOPMENT BY DEVELOPMENT?
>> BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE POINT TO WHERE AS THE BOARD STANDS, AS THE COUNCIL STANDS, WE CAN ACTUALLY PICK AND CHOOSE WHATEVER NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME THROUGH AND SAY NO.
FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, WE'RE NOT AFRAID TO SAY THAT.
ALSO,N ORDER FOR THE SMALL DEVELOPMENT COMES ALONG.
AT THAT POINT WOULD WE SAY, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THIS SIZE OF LOT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE ALREADY STRUCK IT OUT ALTOGETHER, IS THAT POSSIBLE?
>> YOU'RE ASKING A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND I'M TRYING TO STAY SILENT.
I WAS WAITING. WALTER, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
REMOVING THE SF5 DESIGNATION OR WHATEVER WE DECIDE THAT WOULD WOULD BRING OUR LOTS TO A MINIMUM OF 60 FOOT LOT.
IF SOMEBODY WAS COMING TO US WITH A PD, THEY WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED BECAUSE A PD IS A ZONE ZONING.
>> IF WE SAID WE DIDN'T WANT SF5 ANYMORE, WE CAN GET RID OF IT AND STILL, IF SOMEBODY WITH A SMALL SUBDIVISION COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANT TO DO THIS, IF THEY GO INTO THE PD ROUTE, THEN IT'S ALL FINALIZED AND FIGURED OUT, THEN THEY CAN STILL DO IT, CORRECT?
[NOISE] YOU JUST SAW ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE HAPPEN TONIGHT, WHICH IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF SF5 ZONING AND CITY RIGHT NOW AND ZONING IS A DISCRETIONARY ACTION.
IT'S NOT LIKE SUBDIVISION PLAT WHERE STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT IF THE PLAN MEETS YOUR REQUIREMENTS, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
ZONING IS A DISCRETIONARY ACTION THAT A COUNCIL CAN TAKE.
AS YOU SAW ONE DEVELOPER DO HERE EARLIER TONIGHT, WAS HE DIDN'T GET IS SF5 ZONING, BUT HE CAME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> YES, THERE'S THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPROACH, THERE'S ALSO THE OTHER APPROACH THAT YOU SAW TONIGHT IS IN THE USE OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO ESTABLISH THE LOT MIX WITH THE MINIMUM BEING A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT THAT'S 50 FEET WIDE.
THAT IS AVAILABLE AS AN OPTION.
IN ONE SENSE, IT'S EASIER TO DO THAT THAN IT IS TO DO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO A PLAN THE WHOLE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WHICH HAS MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS, DIFFERENT STAGES OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
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HEY, I'D LIKE TO DO SF5.NO, WE'RE NOT IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO, LET ME GO BACK AND RETHINK THIS. HOW DOES THIS LOOK?
>> BUT IT'S ALSO A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD BECAUSE HAD WE NOT STOPPED IT, HE COULD HAVE GONE ALL THE WAY AT SF5 AND GONE DOWN 50-FOOT LOTS AND WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REQUIRE MUCH FROM HIM OTHER THAN THAT AFTER HE GOT HIS REASON.
WHEREAS A PD, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSTRICTIVE AND IT SHOULD BE.
I AGREE WITH MIKEY TOO THAT RIGHT NOW I DON'T WANT ANYTHING LESS THAN 60 FEET.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I UNDERSTAND THE PRICE POINT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'VE HEARD MAYOR BEAT THAT DRUM QUITE A BIT TONIGHT AS WELL.
THE THING IS, IS WE GOT IT RIGHT NOW COMING IN, WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE.
WHEN ALL THAT DEVELOPS, AND THEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME TO ME AND SAY WE STILL NEED MORE, THEN I WOULD LISTEN.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I SAY NO MORE. THAT'S MY POINT.
HOW WE GET THERE AND HOW WE PUT IT IN CODE OR WHATEVER, THE DIRECTION FOR ME IS, I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYMORE LESS THAN 60.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THE SF5 IN THE ZONE.
JUST KEEP ALIVE, BUT ALLOW IT FOR CERTAIN INSTANCES. YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT.
YOU HAVE A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S DEFINED SMALL BUT A SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S UNDEVELOPED.
SOMEONE SAYS, I CAN TAKE THAT FIVE ACRES RIGHT THERE AND DO SF5 IN THERE, IT'LL BE NICE.
WHEREAS IF YOU TAKE A SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY AND DEMAND THAT THERE'S 60 FOOT WIDE LOTS, THEN IT REALLY DOESN'T WORK RIGHT.
IT'S LET THE SHOE FIT WHATEVER.
BUT AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED WHILE AGO, YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, PREDOMINANTLY IS 60 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
WHETHER [INAUDIBLE] NUMBERS ARE, SIX POINT SOMETHING, SEVEN POINT SOMETHING.
BUT THAT'S BEEN THE THEME FOR LOTS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
[NOISE] IN KEEPING WITH OTHER COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOTS OWN IN PLANNING AND HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND ALL RIGHT NOW IS WHAT? SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND.
>> WELL, LIKE IT SAYS, IF IT WORKS, IF THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS, THEN I GUESS YOU SELL IT TO HIM.
YOU CAN BE A RETAILER AND SAY, "I'M ONLY GOING TO SELL THIS MODEL OF SUIT." WELL, IF NOBODY COMES TO YOUR STORE TO BUY THAT SUIT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? SELL SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE WILL BUY.
BUT IF THEY WON'T BUY IT, THEY WANT TO BUILD, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE IN THIS FOR IS TO SELL HOUSES.
I'M REALLY HESITANT TO ENCOURAGE A WHOLE LOT MORE OF SMALLER LOT ENTITLEMENTS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH WHAT ANGLETON HAS BEEN MOST OF IT'S, NOT THE OLD TOWN, THE OLD TOWN STARTED 50-FOOT LOTS, THAT WAS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, BUT PEOPLE BUILD ON TWO OR THREE OF THOSE TO HAVE A SIZE OF LOT, A HOME THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
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60S AS A MINIMUM MYSELF.>> SO IF WE LOOKED AT JUST TONIGHT, WE USE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, NOTHING WE CAN REALLY DO ABOUT IT.
MAYBE SOME OF US ARE FOR, MAYBE SOME OF US AGAINST IT, BUT WE APPROVED 120 40-FOOT LOTS.
SO SIMULTANEOUSLY, RIGHT NOW BEING BUILT OFF OF DOWNING IS [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] GREYSTONE, THAT'S 170-FOOT LOTS.
SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE HOMES IN SECTION 3 OF WINDROSE GREEN OF 120 40-FOOT LOTS THAN THERE WILL BE IN THE ENTIRETY OF GREYSTONE.
GREYSTONE IS OUR BIGGEST DEVELOPMENT OF A LOT BIGGER THAN 60 FOOT, AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN EATEN UP BY SECTION 3 OF WINDROSE GREEN.
THAT DOESN'T EVEN COUNT THE OTHER PART OF WINDROSE GREEN.
WE KNOW IN TOTAL WINDROSE GREEN WILL BE, APPARENTLY TONIGHT CANNOT BE ANY BIGGER THAN 660 LOTS, BUT EVERY ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN 50 FEET, 50 FEET OR LESS.
SO 660 COMPARED TO THE 100 FOR GREYSTONE. WHAT'S RIVERWOOD?
>> YES. BUT HOW MANY HOMES ARE GOING TO BE BUILT ON ALL THREE PHASES. HOW MANY?
THEN WE HAVE ON THE OPPOSITE END, IF AUSTIN'S PLACE GETS DEVELOPED, THAT'S 199 60-FOOT LOTS.
THREE HUNDRED TOTAL LOTS 60-FOOT OR BIGGER, THE REMAINING BALANCE OF WHAT? I DON'T KNOW WHERE ARE WE AT? DO THE MATH LIKE YOU SAID, 1,500, 1,600 OR 50-FOOT OR LESS.
>> YEAH [INAUDIBLE] IS WHAT, ANOTHER 100.
>> GIFFORD'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 100.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S 45, GIFFORD'S 45.
>> IT'S SUB-50, IT'S LESS THAN 50.
>> EIGHTY-EIGHT LOTS? [OVERLAPPING] OKAY.
>> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET ROUGH MATH HERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2,000 HOMES IN TOTAL.
>> EVEN IF I JUST SAID IT'S 1,500-300, I'M GETTING 199, WHICH IS THAT AUSTIN COLONY, 60-FOOT.
>> WE PROBABLY WANT WHAT? SMALLER LOTS?
>> BUT THAT'S PROBABLY THE RATIO OF WHO CAN GET APPROVED FOR WHAT? A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T GET APPROVED FOR 200 AND UP.
>> IF THAT'S WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE A BUSINESS AND ALL WE WANT TO DO IS SELL HOUSES AND LOTS, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO.
[OVERLAPPING] LIKE IT OR NOT, WE'RE THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
>> TO SOMETHING THAT CECIL SAID EARLIER, MAJORITY OF OUR ZONING IS ALREADY 60-FOOT LOTS.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE, YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT NEW INVENTORY AND OLD INVENTORY.
I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A CORRECT RATIO ABOUT HOUSING IN GENERAL IN ANGLETON OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE BECAUSE THERE ARE HOMES FOR SALE.
I THINK I SAW SOMEWHERE POSTED.
I THINK IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 70 HOMES FOR SALE IN ANGLETON CURRENTLY, AND I'M WILLING TO GUESS THOSE AREN'T 45-FOOT LOTS.
THEY'RE ALL PROBABLY 60-FOOT LOTS AT LEAST.
WELL, ALL OF THOSE HOMES AREN'T FOR SALE RIGHT NOW.
>> NOT ALL 2,000 ARE ON SALE ALL AT ONCE BUT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO FIGURE OUT IS IF WE WANT TO EVEN HAVE THESE SIZES ON THE BOARD ANYMORE.
>> MY POINT IS THAT WE DO AND WE'LL HAVE A SATURATION OF THAT SIZE LOT.
THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT SIZE IN PRICE POINT.
I DISAGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT WE'RE BEING "EXCLUSIVE".
WE ARE TRYING TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE THINGS THAT JOHN LAID OUT EARLIER,
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AND THAT IS, WE HAVE A DENSITY PROBLEM.WE WILL HAVE A DENSITY PROBLEM.
WE WILL HAVE A WATER PROBLEM, BOTH INFLOW AND EXFLOW OF WATER.
WE HAVE TO GET WATER INTO THE CITY.
WE'RE APPARENTLY RUNNING LOW ON CONNECTIONS THAT'S WHY WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT ARE WE GOING TO TAKE IN MORE WATER FROM BWA.
WE'RE LOOKING INTO TAKING MORE WELLS, GROUNDWATER.
FORTUNATELY, OUR FOREFATHERS PUT A BARRIER AROUND THE CITY, BUT AT SOME POINT, YOU SATURATE THAT LAND.
I LOOK AROUND US, AND I'M SORRY, GUYS, BUT TO ME, LOOK 15 MILES, NOT EVEN 15 MILES, 12 MILES NORTH OF US, IOWA COLONY IS BLOWING UP.
THOSE HOUSES AREN'T SMALL AND THEY'RE NOT ON 45-FOOT LOTS, AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY [NOISE] THEY CAN DEMAND A PRICE POINT OF $300-$1,000 BUT ANGLETON CAN'T.
WHY CAN CLUTE DO IT, BUT ANGLETON CAN'T? CLUTE. WHAT'S IN CLUTE? I DON'T KNOW, MOSQUITO FEST, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT ATTRACTIVE?
>> THEY'RE CLOSER TO PLANTS BUT THOSE ARE SOME NICE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE GOING UP AROUND THERE, AND PEOPLE ARE TELLING US, "NO ANGLETON, THIS IS GOOD AS YOU CAN BE.
YOU CAN BE A 45-FOOT LOT TOWN. THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE.
KNOW YOUR PLACE IN THE WORLD," AND IT FRUSTRATES ME.
>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND FOR THE LIFE OF ME.
>> MY THING IS IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE LOT SIZE THAT BOTHERS ME.
COUNCILMAN BOOT, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT I'M A RETAIL STORE AND I'M SELLING SUITS, AND IF I SELL ONE SUIT, WELL, THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN I'M THE RETAIL STORE THAT ALSO MAKES THE SUIT, AND I'M TELLING YOU THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE, THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS, AND I JUST KEEP TELLING YOU THAT AND KEEP TELLING YOU THAT, AND YOU GO, "I'LL GO BUY THAT SUIT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE'S BUYING," BUT YET I'M SEEING NATIONAL HEADLINES.
I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF READING ON THIS, AND I'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHING BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW IS SELLING.
FOR US TO TELL PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON RIDGECREST, SAN FELIPE AND THE SMALLER HOMES WHERE THEY STARTED AND NOW THEY WANT TO GROW TO A BIGGER HOME AND THEY WANT TO STAY IN ANGLETON, WELL, SORRY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SELL THIS ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER SMALLER HOUSE AND GO THERE.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT IT'S, AS MR. RAY EVEN TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN, IT'S GOING TO BE BUILDING EQUITY IN THESE HOMES, AND THEY WANT TO MOVE UP TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HERE THAT I THINK HAVE BUILT EQUITY THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE NICER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BIGGER LOT SIZE, AND NO ONE EVER TELLS ME I JUST WANT TO LIVE IN A SMALL LOT ALL THE TIME.
IF THEY DID, THEY'D GO INTO AN APARTMENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL ME IS, "I DON'T WANT A YARD." SO THEY GO TO AN APARTMENT.
FOR ME, I REALLY THINK IT'S REALLY ABOUT PROTECTING THE CITY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
I WILL SIT HERE ALL DAY LONG AND TALK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, THE WATER, AND THE SEWER.
I DON'T WANT THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES TO PAY ONE DIME FOR THESE NEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE COMING IN BECAUSE THEY'VE TAKEN THE WATER AND THE SEWER.
I WANT DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING IN TO PAY FOR THAT.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD FOR ME, IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SUSPEND IT OR TERMINATE IT.
WITH THE SAME THOUGHT YOU HAD THEM ON MARK, A LATER CITY COUNCIL CAN COME IN, I'LL STAND ON MY RECORD.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO RUN AGAINST ME IN TWO YEARS BECAUSE I WANT TO BUILD 40-FOOT LOTS AND TRAVIS TOWNSEND'S AGAINST IT, THEN LET THEM COME ON.
LET PEOPLE ELECT THEM, LET THEM CHANGE THEIR POSITION, AND THEY CAN DO IT.
I'M SURE THERE WILL STILL BE A MARKET FOR IT.
I'M SURE EVERY BUILDER WILL LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A SMALLER LOT.
LIKE YOU SAID, MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.
THESE OPPORTUNITIES AREN'T GOING TO END.
>> WHY CAN'T WE [INAUDIBLE] TOWN HALL?
MY OPINION IS I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT MR. BOOTH IS SAYING.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE OWNER OF A SMALL LOT,
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THEY CAN COME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE, BUT FOR AN ACTUAL DEVELOPER ANYTHING OVER, I DON'T KNOW, TWO ACRES OR SOMETHING, YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT.I'M SAYING SUSPEND IT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE IT REMOVED.
I THINK IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO DEVELOPERS THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE OTHER MESSAGE OUT THERE.
SEE, WHEN ARE SEEING THIS DEVELOPER RIGHT HERE AND THESE DEVELOPERS COME TO US, I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS BAD, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT MESSAGE, AND THAT DIFFERENT MESSAGE HAS BEEN WE'RE OPEN BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER PUSHED BACK.
IF I'M A DEVELOPER AND I CAN MAKE A LOT OF MONEY IN SMALLEST AMOUNT OF SPACE WITH LIMITING MY COSTS AND EXPENSES, THEN I'M GOING TO GO FOR IT, AND WE'RE OPEN.
WE HAVEN'T PUSHED BACK AT ALL OR VERY LITTLE.
[OVERLAPPING] I DON'T LIKE USING THE WORD ALL.
I KNOW THAT'S DRAMATIC. [OVERLAPPING].
>> UNLESS SOMEBODY'S GOING TO PLAY ALL OUT.
OKAY. NOT TO TAKE IT OFF THE BOOKS BUT JUST SAY UNTIL WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT HERE, HOW IT SELLS.
SOMETHING WENT WRONG. [LAUGHTER] JUST SCRATCH IT.
I WAS CONCERNED YOU [INAUDIBLE].
>> YOU'RE HURTING HIS HEAD OVER THERE. [LAUGHTER]
>> LET SOME OF THESE PLAY OUT.
THERE'S A LOT AND THEY JUST KEEP COMING.
THEIR BODY CAN JUST KIND OF HAVE A COLLECTIVE.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN HERE WITH A 60-FOOT, 70-FOOT LOT, THEN SO BE IT.
BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, THE SMALLER ONES JUST STOP FOR A WHILE.
>> I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT MY PROBLEM IS IF WE DON'T EXPRESS THAT, TAKING SOME FORM OF ACTION, THEY'RE GOING TO BE BACK BEFORE US.
THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT WITHIN TIME.
VENTANA IS ONE. THE GUYS OVER HERE, THEY WANTED TO COME TO US WITH 30-FOOT LOTS.
KIND OF GORGEOUS PIECE OF PROPERTY WHICH THERE WERE NO CLEAR CUT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT. BUT STILL.
>> I GAVE THEM A PRETTY NEGATIVE RESPONSE TO THAT AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK, SO I THINK THEY GOT THE DRIFT, ALL THAT, ACROSS THE HIGHWAY OVER THERE.
>> THEIR CONTRACT WAS UP THIS WEEK.
>> I THINK THE MESSAGE IS OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING BELOW THAT.
>> YEAH. I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, TRAVIS.
I'M A SINGLE GUY WITH NO KIDS. I'M NON-COMMITTAL.
[LAUGHTER] COMMITTING TO THIS TAKEN OFF THE BOARD, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO THAT, LIKE THE OPTIONS.
BUT TO DO THAT, LIKE MIKEY SAID, I THINK THAT WE'VE MADE OURSELVES CLEAR JUST ABOUT TO EVERY DEVELOPER THAT HAS EVEN COME TO US.
EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE SAID YES TO THEIR 45-FOOT LOT.
LIKE TONIGHT, THE REASON WHY I VOTED YES TO WINDROSE GREEN IS BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM, AND TO GO AGAINST THAT, I THOUGHT WOULD BE WRONG AND THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE LEGAL ACTION.
I WAS GOING TO VOTE NO UNTIL I REALIZED THAT WE'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED.
I COULDN'T LEAVE THAT TO A HALF-HALF VOTE.
I HAD TO KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING.
I'M WILLING, AND I'VE TOLD PEOPLE, I WILL NOT LET MORE 45-FOOT LOTS, 50-FOOT LOTS COME THROUGH FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
I'VE SAID THAT TO PEOPLE THAT OWN LAND AND WANT TO DEVELOP.
I WAS LIKE, "WELL, NOT RIGHT NOW," BECAUSE OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
WE WILL HAVE A SATURATED MARKET.
I DO REALIZE THAT ALL 2,000 OF THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ON THE MARKET AT ONE TIME, BUT UNTIL I SEE THEM SELL AND BE FILLED WITH FAMILIES, I CANNOT, IN MY GOOD MIND, APPROVE SMALLER LOTS.
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BUT TO HAVE THE OPTION ON THE TABLE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR SMALLER DEVELOPERS LIKE [INAUDIBLE] TRUCKS OR WHATEVER.IF THAT'S WHAT WORKS, WE CAN ALWAYS SAY NO.
BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S A TEMPORARY COUNCIL.
IT'S ALL TEMPORARY. I KNOW I'M DANCING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE THERE BUT IT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT.
MR. RAY, I DON'T WANT ANY OF THESE 50-FOOT LOTS.
BUT WHEN THE MAN SAT DOWN AND WE TALKED ABOUT GIVING [INAUDIBLE] , OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, ALL THE WAY THROUGH, TO ME THAT'S SKIN IN THE GAME AND IT'S GOING TO HURT FOR HIM BUT IT'S GOING TO HURT FOR US.
HIM EVEN AGREEING TO JUST DO THE FIRST PHASE 50 AND THEN MOVING ON, THAT'S TO ME A PARTNERSHIP.
HE'S GIVING SOME, WE'RE GIVING SOME. I CAN WORK WITH THAT.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET WHAT WE HAVE ON THE GROUND.
HE EVEN TOLD ME DR HORTON'S GOING TO COME IN AND PUT 100 HOMES IN THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN DO ANOTHER 100 HOMES IN THE SECOND YEAR.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW FAST IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, IF THEY'RE DOING THAT AT THAT LOCATION, I GUARANTEE YOU HE'S DOING THAT CLOSE TO IT, IF HE CAN.
RIVERWOOD'S ALREADY TRYING TO MOVE.
GRAVESTONE'S GOING TO PUT UP THEIR HOUSES.
WE TALKED ABOUT HOW LONG THIS WILL TAKE.
YOU CAN SEE ALL 2,000 IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR SURE, AND THEN WHERE DO WE GO FROM THERE? IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE GOT OTHER PEOPLE: VENTANA, WE'VE GOT THE STASIA RANCH PROPERTY.
THE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT IS TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION, SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GIVE STAFF CLEAR DIRECTION OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO AT THIS MOMENT.
>> WALTER, CAN YOU CLARIFY ONE QUICK THING? WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR PROPERTY IN THE ETJ, WHERE DOES OUR POSITION STAND AS FAR AS THE POLITICAL POWER TO STOP WHAT GOES ON IN THE ETJ?
>> ALL YOU CAN DO IN THE ETJ IS NEGOTIATE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> ZONING IS NOT AN ACTIVITY THE CITY CAN DO IN THE ETJ.
YOU'RE LEFT WITH NEGOTIATING WITH DEVELOPERS ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] JUST WATER AND SEWER.
>> THE REASON WHY I ASK THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE BY LOOKING AROUND WHAT'S IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT'S IN OUR CITY LIMITS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH LEFT. THERE REALLY ISN'T.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.
NOTHING THAT WE SAW AT RIVERWOOD, THAT TYPE OF ACREAGE, THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD DO SOMETHING WITH.
I GET IT. I SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.
I'M JUST PROGRAMMED TO BE THE MORE THE OPTIMISTIC AND OF COURSE BE THE PESSIMISTIC.
I THINK WE'RE HAVING THIS HEALTHY DEBATE AND THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH LEFT WHERE WE'RE AT.
IF YOU REALLY LOOK IN THE CITY LIMITS OF ANGLETON, THERE'S NOT BIGGER TRACKS, PROBABLY MORE THAN 20 ACRES LEFT.
WE'LL PROBABLY PUT A PAYCHECK ON IT.
YES, I SEE WHERE THE HEARTBURN IS AT.
YES, I SEE WHERE THE INVENTORY CAN BE SATURATED.
BUT MIKEY SAID IT PERFECT, AND THE GENTLEMAN EARLIER, A $250,000 HOME IS A $70,000 SALARY, $25,000 DOLLARS DOWN.
BUMP IT UP NOW BECAUSE LAND COST IN ANGLETON, IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT, ACRE OF LAND IS GOING ANYWHERE FROM $7,000 TO $15,000 TO $20,000 AN ACRE.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SPREAD THAT COST OUT ON ONE ACRE, THREE HOMES, TWO HOMES, ONE HOME? WHO'S GOING TO EAT THAT? THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PERSON WHO'S BUYING THE HOME.
NOW THEIR HOME FOR SURE NOW IS GOING TO BE 350, 400, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE.
FOR SURE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE QUALIFY, I DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE MIRROR BALL.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MIRROR BOTTLE TO WHAT THE RATIO IS.
WHAT'S PERFECT? I LOOKED IT UP.
I WAS ONLINE ALL WEEKEND, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ARTICLES ON PEOPLE THAT ARE DEALING WITH SMALL LOTS.
TO START OFF WITH THE FIRST ONE, A GENERATION AGO SUBDIVISIONS WERE BUILT WITH GENEROUS HOUSE SIZES, SPACIOUS LOTS.
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DRIVE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BUILT IN THE 1980S, THEY'RE BIG.OVER THE LAST DECADE, THEY HAVE SHRUNK.
IT'S NOT JUST HERE, IT'S EVERYWHERE.
I HAVE BEEN TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND US, MANVEL, I'VE BEEN TO PEARLAND, I'VE BEEN SOUTH.
THERE'S SOME REALLY LARGE 2,500 SQUARE FOOT HOMES STILL ON SOME SMALL LOTS, MAYBE NOT 40S, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY 50S.
THERE'S SOME REALLY LARGE HOMES THAT ARE THERE.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS OUR CURRENT INVENTORY, WHAT DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? I WANT TO SEE THE SPECIFIC NUMBER.
I KNOW MR. TOWNSEND'S OVER HERE TRYING TO SQUINCH NUMBERS FOR US AND TRYING TO GIVE US SOME BALLPARKS, BUT IF YOU ALL CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT AND TELL US WHAT'S A 40? HOW MANY 45S? HOW MANY 50S? HOW MANY 60S? HOW MANY 70S? COUNT WHAT'S OVER HERE IN HERITAGE PARK.
PLEASE COUNT EVERYTHING THAT WE STILL HAVE.
WE STILL GOT SOME SMALL POCKETS THAT ARE BUILDING.
YOU GOT THE PLACE ON HENDERSON ROAD BY THE LUTHERAN CHURCH, MR. PELT'S HERE.
THERE'S STILL SOME PLACES THAT HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR MAYBE SOME LARGER LOTS.
I WANT TO SEE THAT RATIO, WHEN WE'VE COME MAYBE A FIVE TO ONE.
I WANT TO SEE THAT TRUE NUMBER.
WHAT IS IT BASED ON TODAY? WHAT HAVE WE SIGNED UP FOR, WHERE WE'RE AT? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE BEFORE I MAKE THIS DECISION.
I ALSO DON'T WANT TO TIE THE HANDS OF FUTURE COUNCILS.
I KNOW MAYOR [INAUDIBLE] JOHN HAS SAID THAT.
WE'VE SAID THAT SEVERAL TIMES ON OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE, DO WE TIE THE HANDS OF THAT FUTURE COUNCIL? YES, WE COME AND GO. YES, THEY CAN CHANGE THE RULES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT MY NAME ON SOMETHING THAT SAYS WE TIED THEIR HANDS 10 YEARS AGO OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
IT'S EASY TO TAKE IT AWAY, BUT HOW EASY TO GET IT BACK ONCE WE GET RID OF IT? THAT MAY BE THE MARKET.
WE HAD THE GARRET GUY COME UP HERE AND TELL US, YEAH HE'D LOVED TO SELL 40S AND 45S.
THAT'S THE HOTBED RIGHT NOW EVERYWHERE YOU GO.
[INAUDIBLE] SAID, "WELL, WE'RE NOT EVERYBODY." WELL THAT'S TRUE, WE'RE NOT EVERYBODY.
WE ARE ANGLETON, WE ARE DIFFERENT.
WE'RE A COMMUNITY, WE'RE DIFFERENT LIKE THAT.
BUT MY THING IS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS A BLUE COLLAR COMMUNITY.
I THINK ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID IT, WE ARE A BLUE COLLAR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE NOT THE HIGH-END CEOS, WE'RE NOT ALL THE DOCTORS AND THOSE TYPE.
WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, GETS THEIR HANDS DIRTY EVERY DAY.
I DID IT TODAY. I MESSED WITH OIL TODAY.
BUT WHAT IS ANGLETON? ARE WE TRYING TO GET TO THAT END OF THE SPECTRUM? ARE WE TRYING TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPECTRUM? ARE WE TRYING TO STAY, MAYBE THIS IS A LITTLE HARSH, EXCLUSIVE, INCLUSIVE? BUT I WANT TO BE WELCOMING.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY SOMEBODY, WHETHER WHAT SOCIAL BACKGROUND THEY HAVE, IF THEY'RE A $70,000 A YEAR EARNER OR THEY'RE A $50,000 A YEAR EARNER, AT LEAST GIVE ANGLETON THE CONSIDERATION.
WE HAVE GREAT SCHOOLS, WE HAVE A HOSPITAL, WE HAVE GOOD PARK SYSTEMS, EVEN BETTER.
AT LEAST LET THEM HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE HIGH-END MANVEL OR THE HIGH-END PEARLAND OR WHEREVER.
I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, I'M SPEAKING JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HERE.
IT'S NOT JUST US. THEY BROKE US OUT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
THEY TALKED ABOUT SIZES OF LOTS.
0.6 OF AN ACRE IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT'S GOING IN WEST, SOUTH, CENTRAL TEXAS.
YOU GO UP TOWARD THE NORTHEAST, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S THE MEDIAN LOT SIZE FOR A NEW HOME IN 2020-2019 IN THE UNITED STATES.
WE'D LIKE TO SAY WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THAT'S THE TREND.
NOT THAT WE'RE TRENDSETTERS OR WE'RE FOLLOWERS, WE'RE DOERS, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO HERE IN ANGLETON.
I ALSO LOOK AT THE AFFORDABILITY FACTOR.
ONCE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE HARD NUMBERS OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WORK REALLY HARD THAT MAYBE WANT TO GET OUT OF THE APARTMENT.
THEY WANT TO BE A FIRST-TIME HOME BUYER.
IS ANGLETON THE PLACE FOR THEM? MAYBE. IS IT NOT? MAYBE NOT.
BUT WHO ARE WE TO DECIDE? ONE OF THE THINGS I SAW TOO I LOOKED UP IS PROPERTY RIGHTS.
NOW, DO WE NOW HAVE THE GOVERNMENT OVERREACH TO TELL A LANDOWNER YOU CAN'T SELL YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO BUILD THAT TYPE OF RESIDENCE OR THAT TYPE OF HOME ON YOUR PROPERTY? WHAT DOES THAT DO? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE INDEPENDENT, DO THEIR OWN THING, BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DECIDING, GOVERNMENT OVERREACH.
WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE TO THAT LAND OWNER THAT THEY CANNOT BUILD OR SELL THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO BUILD WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COMMON SENSE APPROACH, AND THAT'S THE WHOLE BIGGEST THING. I'VE HEARD IT FROM PEOPLE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE'S SOME ZONING THAT HAS BEEN IN ANGLETON.
YOU WANT TO CALL IT GOVERNMENT OVERREACH, THAT'S FINE, BUT ZONING HAS BEEN IN ANGLETON SINCE BEFORE WE WERE PROBABLY BORN.
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[OVERLAPPING] THEY DO IT SO THAT YOU DON'T GET STUFF YOU DON'T WANT IN THREE.>> I GET THAT. I DON'T WANT A MANUFACTURER RIGHT NEXT TO A HOUSE.
I SEE THAT'S PART OF THE ZONING.
BUT WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IS WE STILL HAVE THE POSITION TO TELL SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO BUILD THAT ON YOUR PROPERTY.
TO ME, THAT'S STILL GOVERNMENT OVERREACH. YES, IT'S ZONING.
YOU HAVE TO STILL HAVE TO HAVE RULES IN PLACE, BUT COMMON SENSE RULES.
BUT NOW MADE IT LOOK SOMEBODY IN THE EYE WHO WANTS TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PUT HOMES ON IT THAT WE DON'T LIKE OR WE DON'T WANT THERE. IT'S OUR REFERENCE.
IT'S WHAT WE GREW UP LIVING WITH.
[NOISE] NOW WE'RE TELLING THAT PERSON NO.
I HATE TO SAY THAT. I REALLY DO.
BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO BENEFIT.
THAT'S SOMEBODY'S INHERITANCE.
THAT'S PROBABLY THEIR KIDS COLLEGE FUND AND IT COULD GO AWAY REGARDLESS OF WHOSE PROPERTY IT IS.
THAT'S AN EXAMPLE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHILE WE'RE MAKING THIS DECISION.
IF YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT, OKAY. WE'LL GO THAT WAY.
[NOISE] MAYBE IT'S A MORATORIUM.
MAYBE WE DO SAY HEY, LET'S STOP THE PRESSES FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
WHAT'S COMING IS HERE, LET PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
GUYS, THIS HAS TAKEN FOUR YEARS TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE FOR FOUR YEARS AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE A SINGLE PIECE OF BRICK ON THE GROUND, BUT IT'S HAPPENING, IT'S COMING.
MAYBE WE PUT THAT PAUSE BUTTON. I'LL SAY GET RID OF IT.
IF WE HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON, LET'S REGROUP, GET THE LDC GOING, THAT CAN BE OUR EXCUSE.
IF DEVELOPERS COME IN THE ETJ, YOU KNOW.
HEY, THEY'VE HAD SOME SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS, 30S AND 40S.
BUT YOU COME IN HERE WITH SOME 60S, THREE TO ONE RATIO TO A 50, MAYBE.
LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S COMMON SENSE. YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
YOU LOOK AT IT BY CASE BY CASE.
I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE WORLD'S LOOKING.
THEY'RE WATCHING. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON GOOGLE TOMORROW, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE IT.
ONCE THE FACTS PUTS IT OUT THERE, IT'S OUT THERE.
>> BUT THE COUNTY'S [INAUDIBLE].
NO MATTER WHAT GOES ON IN OUR ETJ, THE COUNTY'S GOING TO STEP IN AND SAY YOUR LOT'S GOT TO BE THIS WIDE, YOUR STREET'S GOT TO BE THIS.
>> UNLESS YOU GET [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT'S WHERE OF COURSE, ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S SUPPOSEDLY OUR STOPPAGE POINT RIGHT THERE IF IT GETS TO THAT POINT.
NOW, DO THEY HANG THEIR BIG CARROT AND THEY SAY WE'RE GOING TO PUT A FIRE STATION OUT THERE FOR YOU, WE'LL BUILD YOU A PD SUBSTATION, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD YOU THIS, THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? BECAUSE I TELL YOU THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE HAPPENED.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THEM IN THE PAST.
I'LL BUILD A FIRE STATION FOR YOU.
I'LL BUILD IT FOR YOU. THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? THERE'S PART OF THAT GIVE AND TAKE AGAIN.
I DON'T WANT TO CUT US OFF COMPLETELY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE'S A GIVE AND TAKE. IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL CASE THERE.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. [OVERLAPPING] DON'T CUT IT, BUT YOU WOULD MAYBE LOOK AT IT AT A, ONCE AGAIN, COMMON SENSE APPROACH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> JUST THIS GENERAL DISAGREE AGAIN WITH THE WORD GOVERNMENTAL OVERREACH.
IF WE DON'T BELIEVE IN IT, THEN LET'S JUST DO AWAY WITH ZONING.
THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE ZONING IN ANGLETON.
IT'S OUR JOB TO BE THE GATEKEEPERS.
IT'S OUR JOB TO BE THE GATEKEEPERS.
WE HAVE A PLANNING AND ZONING THAT REPRESENTS A CITY, CITIZENS, VOLUNTEERS, ACTING AS VOICE OF THE CITY.
NOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE UNIFORM, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS OF WHAT THEY NEED TO BE ANSWERED.
SAME THING, THE SIX OF US ARE SIX INDEPENDENT MINDS, BUT WE'RE THE GATEKEEPERS AND OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO SEE TO THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
WE CAN DISAGREE ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE ROLE AND OUR RESPONSIBILITIES UP HERE AND THAT IS REALLY TO SEE THAT'S DONE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
I CAN SAY, WE MAY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON WHAT THE END RESULT IS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOVERNMENTAL OVERREACH.
THAT'S JUST UPHOLDING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
>> SIR, DO WE HAVE DIRECTION FOR THE STAFF?
>> CURRENTLY, BESIDES MR. RAY AND THE ONES THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR ALMOST HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH, WHO'S KNOCKING AT THE DOOR TODAY?
>> [OVERLAPPING] IS OUTSIDE OF TOWN THOUGH.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE SENIOR COMPLEX? THAT'S GOING TO BE SMALL LOTS.
WHAT ABOUT THAT ONE? THAT'S MR. [INAUDIBLE].
[05:55:01]
>> LET ME REPHRASE MY QUESTION.
WE HAVE SOME CURRENT, ONGOING CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY'RE SAYING, OR THIS IS JUST A CONVERSATION THAT HAS BEEN HAD IN THE PAST YEAR OR SO? [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE CAMERON PROPERTY IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD A DEVELOPMENT MEETING ON, BUT THERE'S NO AGREEMENTS IN PLAY YET RIGHT NOW.
>> WELL, THE LAST I HEARD ABOUT THE CAMERON PROPERTY WAS THAT IT ALL WENT AWAY.
>> THIS IS A NEW GROUP COMING IN HERE, TALKING TO THEM?
>> WHAT IS THAT PROPERTY RIGHT OFF PINEY WAY, NOT TOO FAR FROM HERITAGE COURT?
>> YES. [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, BETWEEN PINEY WAY AND [INAUDIBLE].
>> YEAH. THAT'S A BIG SIGN, THEY CLEARED THE LAND, THE FRONT END OF IT.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S PRIME PROPERTY ME.
>> HEY, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR 40-FOOT LIGHTS, BUT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN ANGLETON IS LIKE 60 GRAD.
>> FORTY THREE THOUSAND FOR A SINGLE 52 FOR [OVERLAPPING]
>> FOR A HOUSEHOLD, AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD ANYTHING ABOVE 200.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S A WAITING LIST ON EVERY APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THERE'S NO RENT HOUSES IN ANGLETON, THEY CAN AFFORD THE PAYMENT, THEY JUST CAN'T GET APPROVED FOR IT.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE'S NO RENT HOUSES IN ANGLETON? THERE'S A LOT OF RENTAL HOUSES.
>> EVERY TIME ONE POPS UP, IT'S GONE LIKE THAT.
>> BUT [OVERLAPPING] [NOISE] NO ONE IS SITTING HERE [INAUDIBLE] WALTER'S OFFICE, TALKING ABOUT STUFF.
THERE WILL BE A TIME TO JUST TAKE A BREATH.
>> HOLD ON. LET'S LET THIS PLAY OUT FOR A FEW MONTHS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF A MORATORIUM, JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE TO STAFF BEFORE IT REALLY GETS TO US.
>> MORATORIUM ON WHAT SIZE? ANYTHING LESS THAN 60?
>> I SAY NOTHING LESS THAN 60.
>> THE OTHER THING I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE COUNCIL IS, WHAT DO WE WANT ANGLETON TO BE? WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING.
BUT ARE WE JUST WANT TO BE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR RIGHT NOW.
WE JUST GOT A BUNCH OF HOUSEHOLDS AND A BUNCH OF RESIDENTIAL.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL OR ZERO INDUSTRIAL REALLY COMING INTO THIS TOWN AND SO WE'RE BECOMING A BEDROOM COMMUNITY VERY FAST.
WHEREAS ANGLETON WAS NOT LIKE THAT IN THE PAST.
WE HAD COMMERCE AND WE HAD INDUSTRY IN THIS TOWN, AND WE'VE LOST IT AND WE'RE CONTINUING LOSE IT.
>> YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET COMMERCIAL UNTIL YOU GET THEM HOUSE WITH THEM ROOFTOPS.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE KEEP BEING TOLD, RIGHT?
>> WELL, I TALKED TO PEOPLE IN HOUSTON ALL THE TIME AND THEY ARE LIKE, I'LL GIVE IT A FEW YEARS.
>> BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOSE MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
[OVERLAPPING] YET OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN, BUT WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS IN THE OTHER AREAS.
TO ME, I'M TIRED OF SEEING ALL OF OUR LAND THAT WE HAVEN'T ANGLETON BEING TAKEN FOR RESIDENTIAL AND WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING THE COMMERCIAL AND THE INDUSTRIAL.
THAT'S WHY ME AND MR. RAY, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THAT, BUT I'M REALLY HOPING I'M RIGHT AS WELL BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO REPLENISH THAT. WE'VE LOST IT.
>> WELL, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN LOTS AROUND ANGLETON, I.E 543, 3D AB, THAT HONESTLY, AT THEIR PRICE POINTS, THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE FOR COMMERCIAL AND THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO COME IN AND BE LIKE, THIS IS VIABLE TO BUILD HOUSES.
AT THOSE PRICE POINTS, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
>> UNLESS WE GAVE THEM 30-FOOT LOTS.
[LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] THE RANCH.
MAYOR, WHAT DIRECTION ARE WE GIVEN? STAFF NEEDS SOMETHING.
>> RIGHT NOW, CHRIS, WE JUST HAVE STASNI, CANTANA, AND WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY? CAMERON? BUT HAVE THEY COME TO DOG OR THEY'VE JUST COME IN JUST VISIT WITH A HANDFUL OF FOLKS?
>> WE'RE DOING THEM THROUGH [INAUDIBLE].
HEY, WE WANT TO DEVELOP SOMETHING AND WE'LL BRING HIM IN AND ENTERTAIN THEM.
LISTEN TO WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL IS.
WE'LL GIVE THEM FEEDBACK AND SAY, WE THINK THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE THIS OR NOT.
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>> BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ACTIVELY SOMEBODY WHO'S PURSUING THIS REALLY HARD AND HEAVY, SAYING, WE'VE GOT A TIMELINE WE WANT TO MEET, WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE'RE DOING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, WE'RE DOING OUR IMPACT STUDY.
HAVE YOU GOT PEOPLE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF?
>> I'M GOING TO DEFER TO WALTER ON THIS.
>> WHAT I'M AWARE OF INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS IS THERE'S A BRUSHY BAYOU, BUT THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED TO THE STANDARD OF ZONING DISTRICT THAT IT'S ALREADY IN AND SO THAT'S NOT INVOLVING ANY KIND OF ZONING CHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I WOULD SAY THE VENTANA PEOPLE ARE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THEIR PROJECT, BUT THEY'RE ALL OUT IN THE ETJ AND THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A MOD, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO AGREE TO CREATE THE MOD.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM ON THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
STASNEY RANCH, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM IN MONTHS.
I GOT AN EMAIL THE OTHER DAY, THEY WERE WALKING AWAY.
THEIR CONTRACT WAS UP ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S SETTLED DOWN.
WE HAVE THE SIX OR SEVEN THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
MAYBE WE JUST, LIKE WE SAID, HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON.
WE'RE WORKING ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR ROADMAP IS GOING TO GIVE US BETTER GUIDANCE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE WON'T GET ANY PREDICAMENTS THAT WE'RE IN TODAY.
MAYBE WE DO A NINE MONTHS TO A YEAR.
HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON AND IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE SELL LOOKS LIKE.
DID THEY PUT THE 101ST HOMES IN THE FIRST YEAR OR EITHER ONE OF THESE PLACES? IT MAY SURPRISE US AND YES, IT MAY SURPRISE AS MAYBE NO, I DON'T KNOW.
ALL WE HEAR IS THE HOUSING MARKET IS HOT RIGHT NOW REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL.
BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL ANYTHING.
SO I GUESS I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR THOUGH WHAT A MORATORIUM MEANS.
I MEAN, AT THE STAFF LEVEL, THAT MEAN WE DON'T HOLD DOG MEETINGS.
WELL, NO, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT MAY COME UP AND SAY, "I WANT TO BUILD SIXTIES, " BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THE MESSAGE OR AT LEAST THEY'VE HEARD US DISCUSS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU SAY.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE MEET.
THEY DON'T GIVE US A PROPOSAL UP FRONT.
THEY SAY, "WE WANT TO DEVELOP IN ANGLETON OR OUTSIDE OF ANGLETON AND WE'D LOVE TO COME TALK TO YOU AND WHAT'S THE PROCESS?" WE SAY, "COME TO THE SALT MEETING OR DOG MEETING AND WE'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION." AND THEN WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEIR PLANS AND YOU TELL THEM COUNCIL WILL NOT APPROVE ANYTHING LESS THAN 60 RIGHT NOW.
UNLESS THEY DANGLE A VERY LARGE CARROT SOMEHOW.
I MEAN, JUST GOT TO HEAR THEM OUT, WE CAN'T CLOSE THE DOORS AND SAY, "WE'RE CLOSED, DON'T BOTHER US," COULD BE SOMETHING COULD POP UP.
BUT THEY SHOULD BE COACHED VERY, VERY WELL BY OUR STAFF, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOUGH SELL.
RIGHT. BUT SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY COMES AND SAYS, "WE WANT TO DO COMMERCIAL, AND WE WANT TO DO 50, 60, 70S. " IT'S A TOUGH SELL, BUT I MEAN, DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY GOT.
RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE.
WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING IS THE CRITERIA TO SEE FOLKS.
THAT'S ALL AND PART OF THAT IS, WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE BRING THEM IN TO HEAR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LAY OUT. THAT'S ALL.
TO ME, A MORATORIUM IS A MORATORIUM.
WELL, FOR ONE YEAR, YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING ANYTHING UNDER 60 FEET.
WELL, YEAH, BUT AT THE SAME POINT THOUGH WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU NOT TO TAKE MEETINGS, BECAUSE THESE DEVELOPMENTS TAKE THREE TO FOUR YEARS TO COME TO FRUITION, RIGHT? WE'RE SLOWING DOWN PACE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SLOW 40S AND 50S DOWN.
IF ANGLETON WANTS TO GROW THROUGH 60, 70S, 100, 200, IT'S FINE.
I'M OKAY FOR THAT. THE SPACE, THE LAYING OF LAND.
WE JUST COMPROMISE AND SAY, "55 ON UP." IF THEY COME TO US WITH A STRONG 55 ON UP DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THEM.
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ISN'T A 55 WITHIN SF5? IT'S LESS THAN SF6.IT'S NOT A LOT ON FS6, IT'S A LOT ON SF5.
I SAY NOTHING LESS THAN 60 RIGHT NOW.
SO WITH REGARD TO UNDERSTANDING THE DIRECTIVE, WE'VE HEARD YOU AND WE'VE PICKED UP ON THAT.
WHEN WE'VE MET WITH DEVELOPERS, ESPECIALLY IN THE RECENT WEEKS, WE HAVE SHARED WITH THEM THAT THIS WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, THIS DISCUSSION, BEEN TELLING THE GROUP, SPOKE WITH US, I PROVIDED A REPORT TO CITY MANAGEMENT, JUST A HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW OF OUR DISCUSSION, BUT JUST IN ALL TRANSPARENCY AND JUST TO BE VERY UPFRONT WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME IN HERE AND ARE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING HERE, WE LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS DIALOGUE THAT WE'VE HAD AND SO THE DISCUSSION IS THERE AND WE'VE HEARD YOU SAY.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW.
IN THE MEANTIME, CHRIS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SEND IT TO US? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS TODAY, WHAT WE'VE APPROVED, 40, 45, 50, 55, ON UP, AND EVEN DON'T FORGET TO GO AROUND AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT PELTIER HAS LEFT, WHAT THE OTHER PELTIER HAS LEFT.
I'M NOT GOING TO WEAN OUT OR JUST ZONE IN ON THOSE.
THERE'S STILL SOME POTENTIAL OTHER AREAS THAT ARE STILL BUILDING AND HAVE PLACES TO BUILD, BECAUSE WHEN WE GET A GOOD NUMBER, BECAUSE I LOOKED.
I LOOKED FOR A RATIO OF SMALL HOUSE TO BIG HOUSE, COULDN'T FIND UNDERNEATH, HANGING IN A CRYSTAL BALL AND NOBODY OUT THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY AN EXPERT THAT WILL TELL YOU, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE.
SO HOW ABOUT I SEND IT OUT TO EVERYONE? YEAH. SEND IT OUT AND THEN [OVERLAPPING].
YOU'LL GET IT PROBABLY IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
I'VE ASKED TWO REALTORS TO GIVE ME QUALIFYING INCOME LEVELS FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT SIZE HOUSES OR PRICING HOUSES AND I'VE ALSO ASKED THEM TO TELL THESE LADIES TO GIVE ME A LIST ON THEY DON'T JUST DO HERE, THEY'D BE PROBABLY OTHER PLACES ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IS SELLING, WHAT THEY SEE IS NOT SELLING, SEE THE PACE THAT'S GOING ON.
SO I'LL ASK THESE INDIVIDUALS TO TRY TO GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION SO I CAN MAKE A VERY STRONG INFORMED DECISION AND SO IT'S NOT SO PERSONAL.
I WANT TO SEE NUMBERS, STATISTICS, FACTS, AND JUST SEE THAT AND THEN GUYS, I GUESS AT THE NEXT STRATEGIC, WHEN WE HAVE AN UPDATE, WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT AGAIN AND LOOK AND SEE WHERE DO THE SIX OF US OR MAYBE NOT, AT LEAST FOR ANOTHER YEAR, SIX OF US, WHERE DO WE SEE ANGLETON AT? WHAT IS THAT VISION? GO FROM THERE AS WELL, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWING OPINIONS AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS SIX OF US ARE JUST, WE DON'T HAVE MAJORITY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE VISION FORWARD FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON? ACTUALLY WITH THAT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A DIFFERENT NETWORK OF FRIENDS WITH DIFFERENT VIEWS AND BACKGROUNDS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
BUT WHAT DO WE SEE COLLECTIVELY AS A WHOLE, OUR FUTURE OUTLOOK FOR ANGLETON? WHAT DO OUR CONSTITUENT SAY THEY WANT TO SEE ANGLETON LOOK LIKE?
>> I THINK WE DO THOSE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE BECAUSE IT GOES BEYOND JUST WHAT DO WE WANT FOR HOUSING, BUT IT'S, DO YOU WANT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR NO DEVELOPMENT AND THAT MEANS WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT TIE ONTO THAT DIRECTION.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE, I'M TALKING ABOUT OPENING UP FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL.
>> WE NEED THAT GUIDANCE TOO BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S A 3-5 YEAR PIPELINE TO GET THAT GOING IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
>> OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD THAT PIPELINE, BUT I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO DEVIATE FROM THAT PIPELINE.
BECAUSE WE SAT DOWN FOUR YEARS AGO AND FIGURED IT OUT, SO WE'RE AT THAT CROSSROAD.
>> I WISH I HAD A MAGIC WAND TO GET TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO COME INTO [INAUDIBLE].
FRANKLY A PIECE OF PROPERTY BETWEEN LA CASONA, IN FACT, 23 FROM [INAUDIBLE] WEST TO HOW FAR IS THE INFRASTRUCTURES IN THERE.
WATER AND SEWER IS IN THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
[06:10:02]
IT'S BEEN SUBDIVIDED, IT'S WAITING SOMEONE TO BUY THE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN PIECES AND DEVELOP IT THERE.[NOISE] WE'VE GOT COMMERCIAL LAND AROUND HERE [INAUDIBLE] FOR FOLKS WHO MAY WANT TO COME IN AND SET UP SHOP.
>> THERE'S THE ACADEMY RIGHT THERE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] LET ME ASK YOU REAL FAST.
BUT 33 ALSO SAID THIS CACHING AT BOTH PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL.
WHAT DID PLANNING AND ZONING HAVE TO SAY?
>> I MEAN SOME DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE ECHOING SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS YOU HAVE.
AGAIN, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF ANGLETON.
WHAT'S THE CITY LOOKING FOR? THAT'S BEYOND THE ADMINISTRATIVE ROLES THAT THEY HAVE AS PLANNING AND ZONING.
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU, THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT?
>> WELL, THEY HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT I THINK YOU'LL HAVE ABOUT LOT SIZES AND THE FUTURE OF ANGLETON AND WHAT'S ANGLETON GOING TO BE, AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
THE MORE WE COMMUNICATE PUBLICLY, I THINK HELP SOME UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY ARE ADVISING THESE DEVELOPERS ALSO.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? YOU OKAY CHRIS, STAFF, YOU GOT [INAUDIBLE] PATH FORWARD.
>> [LAUGHTER] THAT'S WHY THEY PASS US THE BIG BUCKS TO SIT AT THE TABLE.
>> MOVING ALONG NUMBER 34 DISCUSSION ON TXDOT TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE SET ASIDE CALLED TA PROGRAM FOR SIDEWALKS. WHO IS THAT?
[34. Discussion on TxDOT Transportation Alternative Set-Aside(TA) Program for sidewalks.]
[LAUGHTER] I SENT YOU ALL AN UPDATE EMAIL.
[INAUDIBLE] ANOTHER CALL FOR THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM, WHICH USUALLY REVOLVES ROUND SIDEWALKS AND SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS.
THE FIRST PROCESS WAS WE SUBMITTED A LETTER SHOWING OUR INTERESTS AND TENTATIVELY WHAT A PROJECT COULD LOOK LIKE.
ONE IS VELASCO ROUTE FRONT FROM CITY HALL UP TOWARD THE COURTHOUSE, BOTH SIDES, SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, SAFETY, ALL THOSE THINGS.
THE OTHER PROJECT IS HENDERSON ROAD/ BOULEVARD FROM 288 OVER TO 35.
THOSE PROJECTS, ONE WAS SCOPED AT 31/2 MILLION.
THE OTHER IS ABOUT 21/2 MILLION.
THAT'S THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT WHICH FITS IN WELL WITH THE LIVABLE CENTERS.
TXDOT ASK TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH US.
A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, WE WENT TO THAT MEETING WITH MRB ENGINEERS WHO IS GOING TO HELP US SUBMIT FOR THAT OR HAD HELPED US WRITE THE LETTER AND GOING TO SUBMIT THE GRANT POTENTIALLY.
THEY SENT US A E-MAIL SAYING WE WANT YOU TO SUBMIT FOR THE PROJECT AND WHICH USUALLY WHEN THEY DO THAT, THEY'RE TELLING YOU THAT YOUR PROJECT FITS THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
AGAIN, THE SCHEME OF THINGS, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE 291 APPLICANTS THAT ARE GOING TO APPLY.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS IF YOU DON'T GET FUNDED, YOU GO ON THE LIST AND BECOME ELIGIBLE FUTURE FUNDED PROJECT.
THEY KEEP THAT LIST OVER UNTIL THEY WORK THROUGH THE PROJECT.
THE LAST CALL THEY HAD, THEY FUNDED EVERYONE ON THAT PROJECT LIST.
WE HAVE TILL JUNE 14TH TO GET THE APPLICATION IN.
IN MAY WE'LL BACK FOR OUR RESOLUTION FROM YOU ALL OF SUPPORT.
WE'VE GOT TO DO A LOT OF TOWN HALLS AND LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND BIG PUBLIC CAMPAIGN AND THIS IS THE KICKOFF ON THAT.
THE ONE CHALLENGE ABOUT THE HENDERSON PIECE ABOUT PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN IS REALLY WE HAVE TO FILL IN THE DITCHES TO DO THAT.
THAT'S A HINDRANCE TO THAT PROJECT.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT SCOPING THAT DOWN MAYBE FROM DOWNING EAST TO [INAUDIBLE] IS
[06:15:02]
THE MOST CRITICAL POINT AND THE POINT THAT WOULD MOST BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT TIES TO THE SCHOOL.BUT AGAIN, WE'D HAVE TO FILL IN THE DITCHES AND PUT THE DRAINAGE UNDERGROUND.
WE'D HAVE TO KNOCK ANOTHER PROJECT WITH DRAINAGE DISTRICT OR FIND FUNDING IN ORDER TO COMPENSATE SIDEWALK BUDGET. THAT'S THE UPDATE.
IT'S GOOD NEWS. WE GOT THE CALL FORWARD.
AT SOME POINT, WE MAY HAVE TO PICK PROJECTS, IF WE GET SELECTED FOR TWO AND DECIDE THAT HENDERSON IS TOO DIFFICULT TO DO RIGHT NOW AND FOCUS ON THE DOWNTOWN [INAUDIBLE] CENTERED ONE.
COACH, THIS IS REALLY AROUND SAFETY SO IT'S ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC HAZARDS, ABOUT THE ADA ACCESSIBILITY, ANY INCIDENTS, HOW HARD IT IS OFF THE CURVES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THAT'S ALL I ASK.
MOVING ALONG NUMBER 35, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE FROM FISCAL YEAR 2021, 2022 BUDGET. MR. CHRIS.
[35. Discussion on possible action on the direction and guidelines FY 2021-2022 Budget.]
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON THE BUDGET.
WE'RE GOING TO KICK OFF THE BUDGET NEXT WEEK AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THE CAPITAL PLAN, FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE THAT WITH THE BUDGET.
WE'VE ALSO PREPARED A NEW USER-FRIENDLY BUDGET MODEL THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TESTING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE NEW GRAPHS AND CHARTS LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WE CAN DEVELOP IT THIS YEAR AND ADD ANYTHING YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE AND MAKE IT BE MORE USER-FRIENDLY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMMON INPUT FILE THAT GOES OUT THAT BASICALLY HAS ALL THE COMMON DATA THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY FINANCE, THAT WILL HAVE ALL THE PAYROLL TAXES AND THE HEALTH INSURANCE RATES, THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMMON FOR EVERYBODY AND THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY LINK AND CALCULATE.
WE'VE GOT THAT IN TESTING PROCESS, SO WE'LL DISTRIBUTE THAT OUT NEXT WEEK AS WELL.
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR NOW IS JUST ANY DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL THAT YOU WANT TO PUT OUT THE THINGS, CAPITAL ITEMS YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE.
ANY GUIDANCE ON PAYROLL PERSONNEL OR DO WE WANT TO START WITH ZERO RAISES UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT OUR REVENUE IS OR DO WE WANT TO START WITH SOME COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE OR YEAR THREE OF THE COMP PLAN OR HOW DO WE WANT TO START? WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION ON PAYROLL AND ANY DIRECTION?
>> LAST YEAR WE DID THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
WE CAN DO AN INCREASE OVER 65 EXEMPTION FOR ONE, WE'RE IMPLEMENTING PHASE 2 OF COMP STUDY.
DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT, OR DO YOU WANT TO DO RETIREMENT BOOST? ENTERPRISE FLEET, I KNOW WE KIND OF STARTED IT.
OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T MAKE AS MUCH PROGRESS AS WE THOUGHT DUE TO VEHICLES, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU THINK WE WANT TO CONTINUE OR EXPAND? WE'VE GOT SOME POLICE DEPARTMENT VEHICLE REQUIREMENTS, SO DO WE GO THAT DIRECTION, OR DO WE JUST BUY THE VEHICLES OUTRIGHT? THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LIST OF CAPITAL EXPENSES; THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT LAB, THE SERVICE CENTER.
HOW DO WE GO ABOUT ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES?
>> I'LL SAY THE PRIORITY FOR MY PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE FOR SURE OUR EMPLOYEES, HOWEVER WE DO IT.
IF IT'S THE NEXT PHASE OF THE NEXT COMP STUDY, THEN YES, TRY TO GET THAT IN THERE.
BENEFITS IS ALWAYS THE BEST THING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DO THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU PLAYED ON SOME GREAT THINGS.
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT EXEMPTIONS, IF WE COULD AFFORD THAT THIS YEAR, FOR SURE.
LOOKING AT PROPERTY TAX-LOWERING, EVEN IF IT'S QUARTER PERCENT, IT'S SOMETHING, WE WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN.
SO I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE US TO SEE THAT.
WE DID GREAT STRIDES LAST YEAR.
SO IF WE CAN GET CLOSE TO THAT, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN'T, BUT WHO KNOWS? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY PERMITTING IS UP, SO THAT MEANS PROPERTY VALUES WILL PROBABLY COME IN A LITTLE HIGHER, ONLY BECAUSE THERE'S MORE PROPERTY ON THE ROLE NOW.
SO THAT MAY BE THE BENEFIT. SO YEAH.
>> MY THING IS NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
I MEAN, THAT'S FOR ME THE NONSTARTER.
THE REVENUE WE'VE GENERATED, THAT'S WHAT WE GET TO SPEND, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING HIGHER.
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I AGREE WITH MAYOR ON THE EMPLOYEES HAVE OR MIGHT TAKE A DIFFERENT TACTIC THIS YEAR.INFLATION RATES ARE UP ABOUT THREE PERCENT IN MARCH, AND THAT'S ON A 12-MONTH MOVING AVERAGE.
SO FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE AS A CS IMPLEMENT THE WAGE AND SALARY OR COMP PLAN, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT DOESN'T AFFECT EVERY EMPLOYEE.
AND WITH INFLATION RATES RISING, THERE MIGHT BE SOME NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR ALL EMPLOYEES TO FIT IN WITH THE INFLATION RATES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK AT.
THE OTHER THING IS, I LIKED YOUR IDEA OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MOVING TO THE LEASE-PURCHASE OR LEASE PROGRAM.
THAT MIGHT BE A SAVINGS FOR US AND WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY THOUGH, CHRIS, FOR ME THAT THE SALES TAXES ARE ACTUALLY DOING VERY WELL.
I HAVEN'T SEEN, THERE SHOULD BE ONE ANY DAY NOW.
>> OH, YOU'RE HOLDING IT BACK ON US, ARE YOU?
>> NO, TODAY WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE SPREADSHEET, BUT WE KNOW THE NUMBER.
>> IT'S GOING DOWN. IT'S FOR THIS PARTICULAR MONTH COMPARED TO LAST, IT WAS 342,008, WHICH IS A DECLINE FROM LAST YEAR, JUST FOR THIS MONTH, THE DATE IS STILL UP. YEAH.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DECLINE WAS FOR THE MONTH OVER MONTH?
>> FIFTEEN PERCENT DOWN AFTER BEING UP.
>> IT'S BEEN UP. IT'S STILL GOOD YEAR TO DATE, PROBABLY, BUT NOT AS SIGNIFICANT AS IT WAS AT SOME TIME AT 1.6 PERCENT YEAR TO DATE NOW.
>> YES, IT WAS HIGHER BEFORE, IT WAS MORE LIKE 6 PERCENT BEFORE.
>> LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE BIT OF ANOMALY THIS TIME OF YEAR.
>> BUT SALES TAX IS TWO MONTHS BEHIND.
>> THAT'S REALLY FEBRUARY, THAT'S THE WINTER STORM MONTH.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
>> [OVERLAPPING] SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH.
>> NOBODY CAN GET OUT OF THE HOUSE.
>> YEAH, SO IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE.
I DO AGREE WITH MAYOR THAT PERMITS ARE UP.
SO WE SHOULD SEE SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THE PROPERTY TAX VALUE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN EXCEL.
I MEAN, IF THERE'S A WAY TO SEND IT THROUGH EXCEL, A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
>> YOU WANT TO SEE IT IN EXCEL? THE NEW MODEL'S IN EXCEL THAT WE'VE CREATED.
>> PERFECT. THEN I CAN START GOING THROUGH IT. [LAUGHTER]
>> EXACTLY. SO IT'LL BE A LOT EASIER, MORE USER-FRIENDLY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NOT TO SAY THAT WHAT SUZY DO WITH THE PAPER WASN'T BAD EITHER BECAUSE IT'S NICE TO MAKE NOTES AND HAVE A BINDER AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> WE'RE STILL GOING TO PUT AN E-CODE BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN AN E-CODE AFTER THE FACT.
>> ALL RIGHT. ONE THING I WANT TO REQUEST IS PICK WHICH BUILDING YOU REALLY WANT.
YEAH. YOU GOT TO CHOOSE AS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR AS A CITY MANAGER.
I'M JUST SAYING, PICK ONE YOU REALLY WANT TO PUSH [LAUGHTER] INSTEAD OF SIX. I'M JUST SAYING.
>> BUT THEY'RE ALL GOING TO COME WITH NEW BUILDINGS.
>> WELL, I'M SAYING BEFORE IT GETS TO US.
>> WAIT, ONE BIG BUILDING FOR ALL OF YOU? [LAUGHTER]
>> IT'S CALLED THE MEGA BUILDING. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR BUDGET? THIS IS THE GOOD CALENDAR RIGHT HERE THAT CAME IN OUR PACKET.
>> IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
>> ONE OTHER THING, OUR BUDGET WOULD BE ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
I KNOW THAT THE CARES ACT IS OUT THERE, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ON THAT IN A WHILE.
THOUGHT THE MONEY WAS BEING FREED UP?
>> SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CARES ACT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
>> OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT GOING IN.
>> THE BUDGET, AND WE CAN SEE AND OFFSET SOME OF THOSE BUDGET COST.
ALSO KNOW THERE'S THE LATEST STIMULUS, FORGIVE ME I DON'T KNOW THE NAME.
AGAIN, WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME NUMBERS ON THAT.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WE MIGHT AS WELL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
>> MAYBE ADDRESS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS LIKE PARKER IS SAYING, OR MAYBE MORE. I DON'T KNOW.
MY CONCEPT OF THINGS IS I WOULD LIKE
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TO DO IT ONE TIME AND DO IT RIGHT.I DON'T WANT TO DO A LOT OF PATCHES. I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO. WHATEVER IT IS WE ARE DOING.
>> THE CARES ACT FUNDING, WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING FROM PARK UPGRADES, TO RESTROOMS, MAKING THEM TOUCH-FREE, AUTOMATIC DOORS.
WE'VE GOT ALL THOSE SHADING FOR PARKS, FOR THE BASEBALL STUFF.
WE'VE GOT ALL THAT STUFF IN CARES, AND SO WE ARE GOING TO THROW THAT AT YOU, THAT STUFF ON OUR WISH LIST, AND OUR WANT LIST AND OUR NEED LIST.
WE STILL NEED AN ADA STUDY FOR PARKS, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO UPGRADE FOR ADA.
I PUSHED THAT OFF BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
I'D RATHER SPEND THE MONEY ON A LOT SMALLER OF THINGS, THAT WE GET THINGS DONE AND CAUGHT UP, THAN-
>> [OVERLAPPING] I AGREE. I'D LIKE TO CHECK SOME BOXES, THAT'D BE NICE.
IT'S ALWAYS PEOPLE TO SEE THEIR TAX DOLLARS OR HAVING A FINITE RESULT.
>> WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE SOME OF OUR WATER AND SANITARY SEWER ISSUES.
JOHN IS STANDING OVER THERE WAITING FOR DIRECTION TO START DESIGNING SOMETHING.
[LAUGHTER] WE'VE GOT A WATER STORAGE TANK OVER HERE ON CHENANGO STREET, IT'S WORTHLESS, NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
WE KNOW THAT SEVERAL BOOSTER PUMPS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.
>> AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AMERICA'S RECOVERY ACT BECAUSE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE HIGHER DOLLAR NUMBERS, BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL GIVE US GUIDANCE.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? YOU HAVE YOUR ORDERS, SIR.
>> LAST ITEM, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON
[36. Discussion and possible action on any of Governor Abbott’s latest executive orders, Brazoria County’s and the City's emergency declarations and impact on the City of Angleton and how to proceed with city business in the future.]
ANY OF GOVERNOR ABBOT'S LATEST EXECUTIVE ORDERS, PRESORTED COUNTIES AND THE CITY EMERGENCY DECLARATION AND IMPACT ON THE CITY OF ANGLETON, AND HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE.>> OKAY. THERE HAS BEEN VERY LITTLE CHANGES COMING FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
THE VACCINATION PROGRAM IS RUNNING FULL TILT.
IN FACT, WE HAD BEEN APPROACHED LAST WEEK, AND THE TEXAS MILITARY FORCES WANTED TO SET UP SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA, A HUB TARGETING SENIORS, 65 AND OVER TO GET THEIR VACCINATIONS.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS DUE TO A GLUT OF JOHNSON AND JOHNSON [LAUGHTER] VACCINE, THAT THEY HAD THAT THEY NEEDED TO DISPENSE IT.
ALSO, CHI ST. LUKE'S WAS RUNNING A LOT, SO OUR FOLKS, OUR FRIENDS OVER AT UTM ANGLETON DANBURY THEY HAVE BEEN RUNNING NONSTOP WITH THE VACCINATIONS.
THEY'VE BEEN COVERING HERE. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMUNITY HEALTH NETWORK TO COVER FREEPORT TO COVERS FOLKS IN LIKE LAKE JACKSON, AND THEY FINALLY GOT AN END DATE OF WHEN THEY THINK THEY WILL BE DONE WITH THEIR ROUND-THE-CLOCK NON-STOP VACCINATIONS AND START TAPERING DOWN ON THAT.
WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE JOHNSON AND JOHNSON.
AS WE APPROVED YESTERDAY EVENING, WE EXTENDED OUR DISASTER DECLARATION, THE GOVERNOR'S DONE THE SAME THING.
HE'S ALSO EXTENDED THE WINTER FREEZE ONE, AS WE HAVE UNTIL MAY TALKING WITH FOLKS AT THE STATE, THAT MAY BE THE LAST TIME WE HAD TO EXTEND IT JUST ON THE DEADLINES AND STUFF, BUT THE COVID, OF COURSE, WILL BE GOING ON UNTIL FOREVER IT SEEMS. AS CHRIS ALLUDED TO, YES, WE'VE GOT ALL THAT CARES ACT MONEY.
WE'VE COME UP WITH THE A SPEND PLAN.
SOME OF IT WE'VE ALREADY EARMARKED FOR MITIGATION PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED DURING THE FREEZE AND SOME OTHER STUFF, GENERATOR DOCKING EQUIPMENT AT THE RECREATION CENTER SO WE CAN [NOISE] POWER THAT.
THEN WE'LL EITHER USE SOME MITIGATION GRANT OR SOME OTHER STUFF TO PUT A PERMANENT GENERATOR THERE.
ALSO, CATCHING UP ON MAKING SURE WE'VE GOT WATER.
WE'RE GOING TO BE STOCKPILING IN CONICS BOXES THAT WERE PURCHASED RECENTLY, 20 PALLETS OF WATER SO THAT WHEN WE NEED WATER WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO COME FROM AUSTIN OR SAN ANTONIO.
WE'LL HAVE WATER TO GIVE OUT, WE'LL HAVE MRES, WE'RE GOING TO STOCK THAT TOO.
AT LEAST WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES OR WHATEVER COMES DOWN THE LINE BECAUSE WE'LL BE POSSIBLY CUT OFF AGAIN.
WE'LL HAVE AN ITEMIZED LIST OF A LOT OF STUFF WE'VE BEEN MEETING ON AND TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
WE SHOULD HAVE SOME GOOD STUFF THAT WE WANT TO SPEND THAT ON.
THEN HOPEFULLY BY THEN, IT WILL PROBABLY BE NEXT MONTH BEFORE WE GET THE OFFICIAL GUIDELINES ON THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND THE HOOPS YOU'VE GOT TO JUMP THROUGH FOR THE ARA, THE AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT, THE NEXT CASUALLY.
WE'VE GOT A PROGRAM GOING FOR THAT. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THE CITY EVENTS COMING UP DOWN THE ROAD,
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WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON CERTAIN THINGS?WE HAVE ESTABLISHED [NOISE] THE LINEUP FOR CONCERTS IN THE PARK.
THE GAZEBO DID COME DOWN, BUT WE'RE MOVING A TEMPORARY STAGE IN FOR THE MONTH.
THEY ARE ALLOWING US TO KEEP THAT UP SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY BACK AND FORTH, WHICH IS SAVING US THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
THAT'S A GOOD THING. THE FIRST CONCERT WILL BE A TOHONO NIGHT FOR CINCO DE MAYO.
WE'LL HAVE FOUR CONCERTS IN MAY.
PRESSING FORWARD WITH WORKING DAYS?
>> YES. IN THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND, SEPTEMBER 4, 5, AND THEN AGAIN IN NOVEMBER.
MR. LUNA IS EVENTS MOVING FORWARD AS WELL?
>> WE HAVE TWO EVENTS ACTUALLY THIS WEEKEND, THE BATES BRANCH DISC GOLF TOURNAMENT, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE KV SPRING CLEANUP.
EVERYONE'S EXCITED ABOUT THOSE AND ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS AND EVENTS ARE PICKING UP AT THE RECREATION CENTER, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
WHAT TIME WERE THE EVENT ON FOR THE CLEANUP, SATURDAY MORNING, WHAT TIME IS THAT FROM?
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, GUYS, FOR DISASTER DECLARATIONS OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES? IF NOT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND SHOW US.
MY WATCH BATTERY [LAUGHTER] IT'S ALMOST DEAD.
GOT TWO PERCENT LEFT. 12:47, WE ADJOURN.
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