May 11, 2021 City Council

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU-ALL FOR COMING

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

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IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE A PACKED HOUSE, UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

BUT WELCOME TO CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, THE MAY 11TH, 2020.

NICE TO SEE A LOT OF FACES HERE, GETTING BACK TO NORMAL.

WE APOLOGIZE NOT ENOUGH CHAIRS TO GO AROUND.

BUT THANK YOU-ALL FOR UP AGAINST THE WALL AND THOSE THAT ARE STANDING.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

I APOLOGIZE IF I TOUCH MY SCREEN, ONLY BECAUSE I LEFT MY COMPUTER AT HOME, SO I'M THINKING IT'S TOUCH SCREEN.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHOW THAT WE HAVE A CALL ON TUESDAY, MAY THE 11TH AT 6:03.

I'LL CALL US TO ORDER. [NOISE] COULD YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION.

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>> WOULD YOU PRAY WITH ME PLEASE? FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR DAY, ANOTHER DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOU, LORD, THAT WE CAN CALL ON YOU.

WE CAN TRUST TO FULFILL OUR EVERY NEED.

FATHER, WE ASK YOU TONIGHT FOR YOUR WISDOM.

WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE.

FATHER, HELP US TO DO YOUR WILL.

FATHER, HELP US TO LISTEN TO THE FOLKS WHO'VE ELECTED US.

HELP US TO SERVE YOU.

FATHER, I PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY, I PRAY FOR OUR CITY, THAT WE'LL FOLLOW YOU LORD.

WE'LL SEEK YOUR WILL, SEEK YOUR FACE IN ALL THAT WE DO.

WE PRAY THIS IN CHRIST'S NAME.

AMEN.

>> AMEN. [BACKGROUND] [OVERLAPPING]

>> OKAY, NEXT PART OF OUR AGENDA IS CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, AND DUE TO THE FEW THAT WE HAVE HERE, WE ARE AT LIBERTY TO HAVE YOU SPEAK AT THE TIME OF THE ITEM.

WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL WALK THROUGH OUR AGENDA, I BELIEVE THAT ONE'S THAT ARE HERE.

OUR FIRST AGENDA ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

IT SHOULD GO PRETTY QUICKLY.

WE'LL ALLOW YOU TO COME UP AT THAT TIME WHEN WE DISCUSS TOPIC NUMBER 12 AND WE'LL ALLOW YOU GUYS TO SPEAK THERE.

THEN WE'LL GO INTO OUR PORTION OF THAT SIDE.

THOSE ARE WISHING TO ADDRESS, THEY'RE ALL FOR ITEM NUMBER 12, WE'RE JUST GOING TO ALLOW THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK AT THE TIME WHEN THAT ITEM POPS UP.

HAVING NO OTHERS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO, WELL, FIRST BEFORE, WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO NEEDED TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK? IF YOU DID NOT, I WILL ALLOW YOU TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM ON AN ITEM THAT WILL COME UP.

I'LL ASK ANOTHER TWO ITEMS, AT THAT POINT, WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND ACKNOWLEDGE YOU TO COME TO THE PODIUM.

WE'LL MOVE ON, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

NUMBER 1, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210511-001.

DENYING THE DISTRIBUTION COST RECOVERY FACTORY REQUEST OF THE TEXAS NEW MEXICO POWER COMPANY MADE ON OR ABOUT APRIL THE 5TH, 2021.

AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION IN A COALITION OF SIMILARLY SITUATED CITIES, AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION IN RELATED RATE PROCEEDINGS, REQUIRING THE REIMBURSEMENT OF MUNICIPAL RATE CASE EXPENSES AUTHORIZING THE RETENTION OF SPECIAL COUNSEL, FINDING THAT THE MEETING COMPLIES WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, MAKING OTHER FINDINGS AND PROVISIONS RELATED TO THIS SUBJECT, AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210511-002.

RATIFYING THE DISASTER DECLARATION SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON MARCH 17TH, 2020, AND CONSENTING TO ITS CONTINUATION THROUGH JUNE 16TH, 2021.

REPEALING CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210511-002.

RATIFYING THE DISASTER DECLARATION SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON FEBRUARY 15TH, 2021, AND CONSENTING TO ITS CONTINUATION THROUGH JUNE 14TH, 2021.

REPEALING CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

NUMBER 4, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210511-004, ADDING NEW MITIGATION ITEMS TO THE ADOPTED MISSOURI COUNTY MITIGATION PLAN.

NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR MARCH 2021.

NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ACCOUNTS PAYABLE REPORTS FOR MARCH 2021.

NUMBER 7, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A BID TO AMBASSADOR SERVICES, LLC FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT UPON LEGAL REVIEW.

NUMBER 8, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A BID TO [INAUDIBLE]

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NUMBER 9, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROPOSAL FOR SKY WONDER PYROTECHNICS, LLC FOR THE FREEDOM FIREWORKS DISPLAY, AND AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.

NUMBER 10, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CONTRACT WITH LORRAINE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ANGLETON REC CENTER, AQUATIC AREAS LARGE SLIDE REPAIRS, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT UPON LEGAL REVIEW.

NUMBER 11, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN AGREEMENT WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES ASSET MANAGEMENT, LLC FOR REBATE COMPLIANT, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO NUMBER 11.

ALMOST MADE IT. [LAUGHTER] SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THIS AGREEMENT. COUNCIL, IT IS YOUR PLEASURE.

>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE TO ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND?

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM RYE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

MOVING ON TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.

[12. Discussion on Arcola Street Project, Courthouse Expansion Project and Brazoria County Interlocal Agreement.]

CHRIST, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING FIRST BEFORE WE GET STARTED?

>> SURE. AS WE TALK ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE EXPANSION, THE CLOSER OF [INAUDIBLE] , WE STARTED TALKING WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS AND REALLY [INAUDIBLE] CLOTHES, ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS FOR ROAD REPAIRS WITHIN ANGLETON, WE TALKED ABOUT ARCOLA STREET IN THE CONCEPT.

WE TALKED ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO POTENTIAL SIDEWALKS TO THE STREET ITSELF.

WE WANTED TO HAVE A TOWN HALL WITH THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ON ARCOLA FROM CEDAR DOWN TO 35.

WE HAD A TOWN HALL WHERE JOHN PETERSON AND I LEAD THE DISCUSSION ON POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO ARCOLA AND TO SEEK FEEDBACK, COMMENTS, AND THOUGHTS ON THAT.

WE JUST WANT TO COME BACK AFTER THE TOWN HALL TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HEARD.

A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE THERE, AND SO I THINK I DID A GOOD JOB OF ENGAGING THE PUBLIC.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PUBLIC HERE THAT HAS COMMENTS ON THAT.

WE HAVE NOT DESIGNED ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO ARCOLA, SOUTH OF WEST LIVE OAK.

THE ONLY POTENTIAL FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE UNDER THE OVERLAY PROGRAM WITH THE COUNTY THAT WE WOULD DO EAST MAGNOLIA AS, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN UNITED METHODIST AND THE NEW PARKING LOT.

IT'S PRETTY TORN UP ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE.

THEN ALSO ON THE OVERLAY PROGRAM WHICH WE'RE STILL WORKING AND WE'LL BRING TO YOU FOR APPROVAL WOULD BE ARCOLA SOUTH OF WEST LIVE OAK DOWN THE 35.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I HAVE ON MY RADAR THAT WE WOULD BRING TO YOU FOR ACTION.

ON ARCOLA, WEST LIVE OAK TO CEDAR, WE WOULD LOOK AT ENLARGING THE ROAD THERE, ADDING SIDEWALK, CURBING GUTTER TO MATCH THE REST OF THE STREET.

REALLY, THAT'S THE ONLY IMPROVEMENT THAT WE'D DO.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WHO WOULD BE DOING THAT IMPROVEMENT? COUNTY OR CITY?

>> WE WOULD TAKE THAT [OVERLAPPING] TO THE COUNTY AND THAT WOULD BE FUNDED AND DONE BY THE COUNTY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHRIS.

JUST TO LOWER JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ANXIETY, WE HAVEN'T REALLY APPROVED OF ANYTHING.

ALL THIS WAS IS DISCUSSIONS, TALKS, AND WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO WITH THE IMPROVEMENT OF THAT AREA, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE PART OF A STREET.

WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME IMPACTS OF THE OTHER STREET.

HOW DO WE MAKE THOSE READY FOR THAT IMPACT OF ADDITIONAL STREET? I THINK WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AND WE HAD SOME CONCEPTUAL SITTING AROUND THE TABLE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WHAT DO WE ENVISION THAT STREET TO LOOK LIKE? JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON ANYTHING, NOTHING'S SET IN STONE.

THIS IS THE PART OF THE PROCESS WHERE WE ALL TALK AND WE TRY TO GET TO SOME SORT OF CONSENSUS AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE THERE IN THAT AREA.

WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. YOU COMING AND VISITING WITH US.

WE LISTEN, WE TRY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE MOVE ON WITH THAT STREET, AND WE'RE PROBABLY STILL A FEW YEARS OUT.

BUT THIS IS WHERE IT ALL STARTS.

IT TAKES A LOT TO GET THAT BALL ROLLING.

WE'VE DONE IT WITH OTHER STREET IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.

RICHMOND, SOUTHSIDE DRIVE, WE TOOK THE TOWN HALL MEETING TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE VISIT WITH THOSE FOLKS,

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LET THEM HAVE INPUT BECAUSE THEY DID.

WE CAME TO THE TABLE AND NOW THERE'S TWO BEAUTIFUL STREETS OVER THERE.

THIS IS JUST THE PROCESS.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU-ALL FOR COMING OUT AND BEING A PART OF IT TONIGHT.

WE DO HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND LET YOU GUYS SPEAK. OUR RULE IS NORMALLY THREE MINUTES AT THE PODIUM.

ALL COMMENTS DIRECTED TOWARD COUNCIL AND YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SPEAK AS FREELY AS YOU LIKE.

OF COURSE, KEEP IT RESPECTFUL BECAUSE THERE'S CHILDREN IN THE ROOM.

BUT WE JUST ALLOW THREE MINUTES AT THE PODIUM.

IF YOU NEED AN EXTRA FEW SECONDS, WE'LL CERTAINLY LET YOU HAVE THAT TIME.

I DO HAVE FOUR.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IF YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SIGN UP, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND.

LET YOU COME TO THE PODIUM.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.

WE'LL START OFF WITH REVEREND JOEL MCKINNON.

[NOISE]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PEREZ AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.

I'LL SPEAK QUICKLY SO I CANNOT BE LIMITED BY THREE MINUTES.

[BACKGROUND] MY NAME IS REVEREND JOHN MCKINNON, AND I SERVE AS THE SENIOR PASTOR AT FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH HERE IN ANGLETON SINCE JULY 1ST OF 2018.

OUR CHURCH HAS BEEN IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION AT 219 NORTH ARCOLA STREET SINCE 1892.

WE HAVE RECENTLY BEEN ABLE TO CONFIRM WITH FORMER MAYOR PINKY SNOW THAT WE HAVE AN ANGLED PARKING IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH CAMPUS SINCE AT LEAST 1951.

SINCE ARRIVING IN ANGLETON IN 2018, THIS CHURCH HAS BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL TO BE GREAT AND ACTIVE PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND SURROUNDING AREAS.

SINCE THAT TIME, OUR CHURCH HAS FED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT BE THEM COMING INTO THE CHURCH TO GET BAGS OF FREE GROCERIES FROM OUR COMMUNITY FOOD PANTRY OR TO US DELIVERING HOT MEALS TO STUDENTS WHO CANNOT GET OUT THE HOUSE OR SIMPLY OFFERING A HOT MEAL TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, WHICH WE DO SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR.

WE STARTED AN ANNUAL BACK-TO-SCHOOL FESTIVAL, WHO WE OFFER ABSOLUTELY FREE TO EVERY STUDENT IN ANGLETON AND SURROUNDING AREAS, FREE HAIRCUTS, DENTAL EXAMS, EYE EXAMS, HEALTH SCREENS, BACKPACKS FILLED WITH SCHOOL SUPPLIES.

WE PARTNER WITH ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, EMS FIRST RESPONDERS TO HAVE THEM PRESENT AS WELL TO HELP ESTABLISH HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN OUR CITIZENS AND THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS.

IN THAT LAST FESTIVAL, OVER 600 FREE SERVICES WERE PROVIDED TO OUR PUBLIC.

WE OFFER A FREE COMMUNITY WIDE PUMPKIN PATCH, SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY NO LONGER HAS TO DRIVE TO LAKE JACKSON FOR A FAMILY FUN AND MEMORY MAKING OPPORTUNITY.

OVER 1,000 PEOPLE ATTENDED THIS LAST PATCH.

WE EVEN OFFERED A HOT MEAL, WITH TRICK-OR-TREATING IN THE PATCH ON THE LAST DAY OF THAT PATCH.

WE PUT ON A WINTER WONDERLAND WHERE WE BLOW SNOW ON THE LAWN AND COOK FREE MEALS FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, SING CHRISTMAS CAROLS, ROAST MARSHMALLOWS AND ETC.

WE OFFER FINANCIAL CLASSES TO THE COMMUNITY, GRIEF SHARE CLASSES, DIVORCE CARE CLASSES, NARCOTICS ANONYMOUS CLASSES, AND SO MANY MORE FOR THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE A MONTHLY HOST FOR THE GATHERING PLACE, WHICH OFFERS A TIME OF RESPITE FOR FAMILIES WHO PROVIDE CARE FOR LOVED ONES WITH DEMENTIA.

WE OFFER AN ACCREDITED DAY SCHOOL ON OUR CAMPUS THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR DECADES, AND TAKES CARE OF BETWEEN 60-75 FAMILIES A YEAR.

WE ARE CHARTER REPS FOR LOCAL SCOUTING GROUPS THAT ARE COMMITTED TO GROWING, LOVING AND PRODUCTIVE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY.

DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC, WE GOT A PARTNER IN TEXAS RHODE HOUSE, WHERE WE CONVINCED THEM TO OFFER 5,000 FREE MEALS TO THE SCHOOLS AND HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS HERE IN ANGLETON, TEXAS.

WE PROVIDED FREE INTERNET SERVICES TO OVER 700 HOUSEHOLDS SO THAT STUDENTS COULD ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN VIRTUAL LEARNING.

WE DIDN'T STOP THERE, WE CONVINCED NINE OTHER CHURCHES TO OFFER THE SAME SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WE COORDINATED A CITYWIDE VIRTUAL EAST RED CARD MONTHS AFTER THE PANDEMIC BROKE IN OUR WORLD, SO THAT OUR CITIZENS COULD DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR CHILDREN, NOT BE COOPED UP IN THE HOUSE.

WE EVEN INCLUDED MAYOR PEREZ IN THOSE FESTIVITIES AND MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS A GOOD TIME.

SINCE BEING AT FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AND INTENTIONALLY FOCUSING IN ALL THE WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT YOU IN THIS GREAT CITY OF ANGLETON, WE HAVE BEEN CALLED UPON NUMEROUS TIMES BY THIS COUNCIL AND BY CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THERE WAS BELIEVED TO BE A BRAIN EATING BACTERIA IN THE CITY WATER SUPPLY, WE RECEIVED CALLS FROM MAYOR PEREZ AND THEN CHIEF AARON AUSMUS BEFORE SUNRISE ASKING IF WE CAN HELP COORDINATE WITH WATER DISTRIBUTION THROUGHOUT THE CITY? WE AGREED. WHEN THE WATER WAS REROUTED TO LAKE JACKSON, WE OFFERED TO HELP ONLY TO BE TOLD THAT THE MAYOR OF LAKE JACKSON DID NOT WANT OUR HELP.

THAT NIGHT AROUND 9:00 PM, THE MAYOR OF LAKE JACKSON CALLED THE MAYOR OF ANGLETON AND SAID, "WE NEED THEIR HELP," AND WE AGREED. WE CAME AND HELPED.

THE CITY CALLED ON US DURING THE WINTER STORM EARLIER THIS YEAR, WHEN AN APARTMENT FIRE BROKE LOOSE AND FAMILIES WERE BEING DISPLACED TO OPEN OUR CHURCH AND TAKE THEM IN FOR SHELTER FOR THE EVENING.

WE AGREED ONLY LATER TO FIND OUT THEY WERE GOING TO BE REROUTED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

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THE CITY RAN OUT OF WATER DURING THIS TIME AND CALLED US AND SAY, "CAN YOU HELP?" WITHIN TWO HOURS, WE DELIVERED A PALLET OF WATER TO THE REC CENTER FOR DISTRIBUTION AMONGST OUR CITIZENS.

WE WERE ASKED TO HOST SHOP WITH A COP, WE AGREED.

OUR CITY MANAGER AND THE PREVIOUS CHIEF OF POLICE HAVE ASKED, "GOING FORWARD, WOULD WE BE WILLING TO BECOME A 24/7 SHELTER FOR THE CITY IN TIMES OF EMERGENCY?" WHILE WE'VE NOT YET FINALIZED ALL THOSE DETAILS, WE'VE EXPRESSED OUR WILLINGNESS TO DO SO.

MAYOR, COUNCILMEN, I SHARE THESE THINGS WITH YOU TO EXPLAIN THE PASSIONATE PEOPLE YOU SEE SITTING BEFORE YOU TODAY.

WE ARE CONCERNED WHEN WE HEAR RUMORS OF LOSING PARKING PLACES WHERE WE SERVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THROUGH THOSE PARKING PLACES.

AS YOU'VE HEARD, WE ARE MORE THAN JUST A HOUSE OF WORSHIP.

WE ARE A CHURCH FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR.

WE SHOW UP AT 3 AM IN THE MORNING WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CALLS AND SAYS, THERE WAS A SUICIDE OR THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT, WE NEED SOMEONE TO MEET AN OFFICER.

WE SAY YES AND WE SHOW UP.

WE ARE ALL IN, WE ARE INVESTED IN THE CITY.

WE'RE INVESTED IN YOU AS OUR LEADERS.

WE DON'T JUST HAVE PEOPLE ON OUR BUILDING ON SUNDAYS, BUT WE'RE A BUSY LOCATION ALL WEEK LONG, AND WE DEPEND ON THESE 23 PARKING PLACES IN FRONT OF OUR CHURCH ON ARCOLA STREET.

WE CAN'T PICK OUR BUILDING UP AND RELOCATE THE FRONT OF IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I BARELY SCRATCHED THE SURFACE ON COVERING ALL THE THINGS WE DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND FRANKLY SPEAKING, LOSING THOSE PLACES ON ARCOLA WOULD CRIPPLE OUR ABILITY TO BE THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THIS COMMUNITY, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS.

THIS DOESN'T EVEN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HARDSHIPS THAT WOULD BE LOST BY NOT HAVING UPFRONT PARKING FOR OUR SENIORS WHO USE DMES, WALKERS, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO GET EASILY INTO THE BUILDING, THIS WOULD CREATE A HARDSHIP FOR THEM AS WELL.

PLEASE, WE ASK OF YOU THAT NOT THIS EVENING OR ANYTIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE OR BEYOND, TO [LAUGHTER] EVEN DISCUSS REMOVING A SINGLE PARKING PLACE FROM THAT CAMPUS.

GOD HAS BLESSED OUR CHURCH WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO FAITHFULLY SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY, AND WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO LIVABLE CENTER STUDY WILL INTERFERE WITH US BEING THE HANDS AND FEET OF JESUS CHRIST.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SUPPORT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> NEXT UP, MR. HENRY MUNSON

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR GIVING US THIS TIME.

I DON'T GUESS THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN THINK OF TO ADD TO [LAUGHTER] WHAT THE PASTOR SAID.

OTHER THAN I KNOW I'M GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE SUNDAY BECAUSE HE'S NEVER SEEN ME SIT ON THE FRONT ROW [LAUGHTER] IN CHURCH, BUT NEVERTHELESS, I WON'T TAKE THREE MINUTES.

BUT I PROBABLY COULD TAKE THREE HOURS TO TELL YOU ALL THE THINGS THAT OUR CHURCH HAS DONE SINCE 1892.

THE MAYORS, THE CITY COUNCILMEN, THE JUDGES, THE DAS, ESTABLISHING THE ANGLETON EMERGENCY MEDICAL CORPS.

SO MANY OF OUR CHURCH MEMBERS HAVE MADE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY, ALL THESE YEARS.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, I'M OPPOSED TO LOSING THE DIAGONAL PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR CHURCH THAT CAN'T BE MOVED TO FACE ANOTHER STREET OTHER THAN ARCOLA. THANK YOU ALL.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. [APPLAUSE]

>> TYPICALLY WE DON'T RESPOND BACK BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR CERTAIN DIALOGUE.

BUT I WILL SAY, MR. MUNSON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN ON PLANNING AND ZONING FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

MR. MARK BROWN.

[NOISE]

>> MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MET SOME OF YOU GUYS AT TOWN HALL THE OTHER NIGHT, HAVE SEEN SOME OF YOU GUYS AND THE GEM AT YOUR ESTABLISHMENT ON THE GOLF COURSE.

I'VE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE SUPPORTED IN THE CHURCH, TO BEING ON THE LEADERSHIP TEAM.

IT'S NOT AN ELECTED POSITION, BUT THEY MUST THINK ENOUGH TO HAVE ME ON IT.

BEING ON THAT LEADERSHIP TEAM, I FEEL A RESPONSIBLE AND OBLIGATION TO REPRESENT MY FAMILY IN THESE PARKING SPACES.

I WOULD HATE TO SEE US LOSE A SINGLE ONE OF THEM FROM THE TOWN HALL, SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE SHARED,

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THE CITY WILL GET WHAT THEY NEED, THE COUNTY WILL GET WHAT THEY NEED, AND MOST IMPORTANT TO MY HEART, OUR CHURCH WOULD GET WHAT WE NEED.

THE OTHER REASON I WANTED TO TAKE SOME TIME IS IN CASE PASTOR JOE RAN OVER, I COULD YIELD HIM MY TIME.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT UP, MISS JUDITH MAKUYE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I TOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, PERHAPS THE PASTOR, JOE, YOU CAN SEE THE PASSION, MAYBE YOU CAN FEEL THE ANGER. I DON'T KNOW.

BUT WHEN YOU SIT IN OUR SITUATION AND YOU REALIZE HOW LONG THIS CHURCH HAS BEEN PART OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY, IT IS RATHER ANNOYING TO BE TOLD THAT WE NEED TO SACRIFICE FOR THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE WE HAVE IN FACT SUPPORTED THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY SINCE WE'VE BEEN ESTABLISHED.

BUT THE THING I WANTED TO DO IS JUST TO PUT A LITTLE FLESH ON THE BONES BEFORE PASTOR JOE GOT HERE BECAUSE WE LIVE THROUGH HARVEY.

IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT WAS WHERE THE ROVER MET THE ROAD, YOU WEREN'T HERE.

I LIVE OUT IN BAILEY'S PRAIRIE, WHICH BECAME A LAGOON OF ABOUT 1300 SOULS, AND THEY ONLY GET HELP AT ONE TIME.

I WAS FORTUNATE TO STAY DRY, AND SO I LOOKED AROUND AND SAID, WHAT CAN WE DO? I CALL IT TO THE TURKS, AND SHE SAYS, WE'RE WAITING TO SEE IF WE GET WATER WE GET WATER, YOU GOT IT.

SHE DON'T CARE WHERE IT'S GOING.

SHE TRUSTS ME, WE KNOW EACH OTHER.

WE'RE GOING TO GET 254 BUCKETS.

YOU NEED THEM, YOU GOT THEM DIDN'T CARE WHERE THEY'RE GOING, WE NEEDED THEM.

WE HAD A SISTER CHURCH WHOSE CHURCH LITERALLY FELL DOWN AROUND THOSE YEARS, AND THEY CALLED US UP AND THEY SAID, PASTOR, OUR HOUSE OF WORSHIP JUST COLLAPSED.

WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR US? WE SAID, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

THEY SAID, "HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT REACHED FOR THE HOUSTON FOOD BANK, AND THE PEOPLE THAT RELY ON US, ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FOOD BANK, CAN YOU HELP US OUT?" WE SAID YEAH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

WHEN YOU NEED WATER, CALL THE CHURCH.

THEY'LL FIGURE IT OUT. YOU NEED HELP FOR YOUR OEM? CALL THE CHURCH, THEY'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO DO, IS TO FIGURE IT OUT TO WHAT THIS CHURCH DOESN'T HAVE TO SACRIFICE OR HAS BASICALLY BEEN ONE OF THE CORNERSTONES OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA SINCE IT WASN'T SAID. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE] ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? COME TO THE PODIUM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FOUR INDIVIDUALS WHO CAME TO PARTAKE AND GIVE THEIR INSIGHT IN WHAT'S IN THEIR PASSION WE UNDERSTAND ANY DECISION WE MAKE.

WE TRY ONCE AGAIN, DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COMPROMISING SINCE I'VE BEEN THE MAYOR, SO THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T THE FIRST FOR US. IT IS DIFFICULT.

IT DOES GET DIFFICULT TO SWALLOW SOMETIMES.

IT WAS MCKELVEY WHO SAID, WE'LL GET TO A SOLUTION AND I THINK WE CAN GET THERE AND WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER TONIGHT SO HE'S LISTENING AS WELL.

HE CAN GIVE US SOME SUGGESTIONS SO WE CAN GIVE IT ON TO THOSE THAT WE DESIGNATED THAT AREA FOR US.

COUNCIL, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS THIS IS THE DISCUSSION PART.

FEEL FREE SITE.

>> I'LL TAKE THE FIRST TURN IF YOU DON'T MIND MR. MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR.

>> I'VE HAD SOME GOOD LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH A FEW OF OTHER MEMBERS OF THE METHODIST CHURCH, OTHER PEOPLE HERE IN TOWN, I THINK FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS, I DROVE THROUGH THERE ON MY WAY BACK AND FORTH TO WORK FROM MY HOUSE AND ENTER THERE EVERY SUNDAY GOING TO CHURCH AT FIRST BET.

THERE IS NO NEED TO TAKE AWAY THE ANGLE PARKING.

[APPLAUSE].

>> GREAT.

>> I DIDN'T SAY THAT FOR AN APPLAUSE BUT THANK YOU.

I THINK WE SEE THIS ALIKE.

IT DOESN'T TAKE ONE STRAIGHT SECTION FOR THE ENTIRE STREET.

YOU CAN DO VARIOUS THINGS FROM CEDAR STREET ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 35.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAINT THIS WITH ONE BROAD BRUSH, AND DO IT ONE WAY.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT EACH BLOCK, AS YOU GO ALONG,

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THERE'S BLOCKS DOWN THERE THAT THEY HAVE PARKING.

MCKELVEY HAS GOT A WHOLE PARKING LOT OVER THERE.

WHY WOULD THEY NEED ANY PARKING AT ALL NEXT TO THE STREET? BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED.

STRAIGHTNESS TOWN OR PRIMARILY THERE TO CONVEY TRAFFIC THAT'S WHY THEY WERE SET THERE.

CARS TO GO BACK AND FORTH.

WE'RE FORTUNATE IN DOWNTOWN ANGLETON, THAT MOST OF THE RIGHTS OF WAY ARE A LITTLE BIT WIDER THAN THE ONES YOU NORMALLY SAY.

WE'VE GOT 70-FOOT RIGHTS OF WAY AROUND HERE IN TOWN, BUT MOST OF THE TIME YOU DON'T FIND 60.

THAT ADDITIONAL 10-FEET GIVES YOU A LOT OF SPACE TO DO THINGS THAT YOU NORMALLY CAN'T DO.

WIDER SIDEWALKS, WIDER STREETS, ANGLED PARKING, ITS FUNCTION LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN I PAID TO OUR COLA STREET, BUT I SUSPECT STRONGLY THAT THERE WAS DITCHES OUT THERE ONE TIME.

THEN THEY CAME IN AND PUT CURVES DOWN.

PROBABLY, THE CURVES WERE BUILT BY THE WPA.

A LOT HAVE BEEN LOST NOW THE STAMP IS GONE.

THAT'S HOW THEY GOT THERE.

PROBABLY WHEN THE WPA CAME TO INPUT THE CURVES THERE, THAT'S WHEN THEY FILLED IN THE DITCHES.

THAT'S WHY THE STREETS ARE SO HIGH ROLL TOP BECAUSE TYPICALLY YOU DON'T BUILD A ROLE TOP STREET LIKE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A NORMAL CURVE AND GUTTERED SECTION.

AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT EACH BLOCK, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE, WHETHER TO CHURCH, WHETHER IT'S NEXT TO A PARKING LOT, WHETHER IT'S NEXT TO A COUNTY FACILITY.

EACH BLOCK IS GOING TO HAVE ITS PARTICULAR NEED.

THAT'LL BE THE BEST WAY TO SOLVE THE ISSUE OF GETTING NEW TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE AND PROVIDING UNNECESSARY PARKING FOR THAT AREA.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. [INAUDIBLE]

>> MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OR IDEA BEHIND REMOVING THE ANGLE PARKING? CAN SOMEBODY ANSWER THAT?

>> STANDARDIZATION ACROSS THE STREET, IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW, AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT BIKE PATHS THAT WAS PART OF THE LOVABLE CENTERS STUDY OR EXPANSION OF THE SIDEWALK SO THAT YOU COULD PUT THE MULTIPURPOSE BIKE PEDESTRIAN PATHS THERE.

DURING THE PRESENTATION, WE PROVIDED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OF POTENTIAL WAYS TO UPGRADE THE STREET AND STREET USE.

>> SPEAKING AS A PARENT WHO'S PUT THEIR KIDS IN METHODIST STATE SCHOOL, I'VE ALSO UTILIZE THE EPISCOPAL SERVICES ACROSS THE STREET.

MY CONCERN ABOUT THE ANGLE PARKING, HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT IT PUSHED TRAFFIC OVER INTO ARCOLA AND YOU HAVE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC TRYING TO GET AROUND IT.

IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO BYPASS THE LINE OF PARENTS, MOTHERS MOSTLY WAITING TO DROP OFF THEIR CHILDREN, FORCES EVERYTHING TO YOUR LEFT AND INTO INCOMING TRAFFIC.

THAT'S JUST A SMALL TIME A DAY.

WHAT ABOUT 8:30 IN THE MORNING I THINK I'LL DO DROP-OFFS.

PROMPTLY AT 3:00, I BELIEVE, FOR PICKUP.

>> 2:30.

>> 3 :30?

>> 2:30

>> 2:30, YEAH, I KNEW IT WAS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

THAT WAS ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF MY CONCERN BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO TRAVEL DURING THAT TIME.

IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY PERHAPS GOING NORTH ON ARCOLA HEADED TOWARDS CEDAR, AND YOU HAPPEN TO BE GOING SOUTH, YOU GOT TO BE PATIENT.

BUT WE'VE GOT LAW ENFORCEMENT HERE TONIGHT.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY WRECKS THAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT CAREFULLY AND SAFELY.

JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, ON MY IDEA ON THIS IS, I GUESS I WANT TO SEE, HE'S TALKING ABOUT UNIFORM AND STANDARDIZATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE COMPLETELY CONCRETE ROAD FROM CEDAR ALL THE WAY TO 35.

NOW, I KNOW THAT GETS A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN DOING THE CONCRETE OVERLAY.

BUT THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I'D LIKE A TRUE CARBON GATHERED ANYTIME WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON TO ENHANCE OUR ROADS,

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WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF, WHEN THIS STUDY IS DONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LOOK AT NOT JUST STOPPING AT, I THINK IT WAS WE SAY WEST LIVE OAK.

I'D LIKE TO MAYBE CONTINUE ON.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU GOT TO DO WITHIN A BUDGET.

I DO HAVE CONCERNS.

I WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO BE WIDEN IN THAT FIRST BLOCK.

I THINK THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE, BUT WHEN AND I GUESS IF AND WHEN THE COUNTY EXPANDS, WE'RE LOSING [INAUDIBLE].

I TRULY BELIEVE OUR GOAL HAS BECOME A PASTOR.

IT'S GOING TO REROUTE TRAFFIC.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AT THE CORNER THERE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO TRY TO PASS THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON MAKING SURE WE HAVE A GOOD QUALITY ROAD, I'D LIKE TO SEE A CONCRETE, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT CURB AND GUARDED.

LET'S MAKE THIS SOMETHING WE CAN BE PROUD OF AND CAN USE FOR A LONG TIME INTO THE FUTURE.

AS FAR AS ANGLE PARKING, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

BUT I WANT A NICE GOOD ROAD.

>> WHO ELSE? YOU GOT THE MIC? GO AHEAD, JUMP.

>> I HAVE A REPUTATION OF BEING THE FIRST ONE TO JUMP AT THE MIC, SO I WAS TAKING TURNS, LET EVERYBODY ELSE GO FIRST.

[LAUGHTER] I HEAR YOU AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE THE ANGLE PARKING AWAY.

IT CAN STAY IN MY OPINION, AS I THINK THERE'S ALTERNATIVES THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT TO MITIGATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO KEEP IN ANGLE PARKING.

I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN I FIRST CAME AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE ANGLE AND I THOUGHT," WE CANT LOOSE AN ANGLE, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE AN ANGLE.

I REALIZED THAT AS SOMEBODY WHO'S LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE, AND I THINK MOST OF YOU CAN ATTEST.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GO DOWN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HIT ALL THOSE LIGHTS, THE FIRST PLACE YOU'RE GOING IS ARCOLA, BECAUSE YOU CAN GO THE BACK ROADS AND GET TO KROGER FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN WITHOUT HAVING TO HIT EVERY SINGLE LIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.

WHAT DOES IT MATTER IF WE LOSE ANGLE OR NOT? THAT POSES A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT DOES PUSH MORE PEOPLE ONTO ARCOLA.

THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH ARCOLA IS, AS COUNCILMAN BOOTHS MENTIONED THE WHOLE TOP OF THE ROAD, AND MY CONCERN IS IF WE OVERLAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE UNLESS WE REALLY DO SOMETHING ON THAT OVERLAY THAT MILLS IT DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY TO WHERE WE'RE NOT CREATING A SAFETY ISSUE, BECAUSE IF YOU KEEP YOUR ANGLE PARKING AND WE HAVEN'T MILLED IT DOWN ENOUGH, YOU'RE PARKING LIKE THIS IN THE ANGLE PARKING, AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO TO BACKUP? YOU PUNCH THE GAS TO BACK UP AND THAT SLOWS YOUR REACTION TIME IF THERE'S A CAR COMING.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND THAT THE ROAD IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT, WE NEED TO FIX IT FOR LONG-TERM.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT A CONCRETE STREET.

BUT I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS MENTIONED, WE DON'T HAVE FUNDS FOR THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW TO FIX ANY OF THAT.

EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE SO FAR HAS BEEN REALLY TO PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE.

OFTENTIMES, WE'LL SEE PEOPLE COMMENT TO US THAT, "WELL, NOBODY EVER TOLD US ABOUT THIS PROJECT", AND WILL SAY, "WE DID, BUT IT WAS LIKE TWO YEARS AGO".

BECAUSE THAT'S HOW LONG IT USUALLY TAKES US TO GET SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED ON A ROAD.

THIS WAS ALL PRELIMINARY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, AND I HOPE YOU DON'T TAKE THAT TO COUNT.

THE CITY HAS MADE THEIR MIND UP AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD THIS DIRECTION, AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING.

IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THAT, IT'S REALLY ABOUT GETTING ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AND GETTING EVERYBODY'S INPUT, TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE CITY, NOT JUST FOR WHAT WE WANT TO DO OR WHAT BENEFITS YOU, IT'S WHAT REALLY BENEFITS ALL OF US.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU-ALL COMING OUT TONIGHT, AND TAKING THE TIME TO LET US KNOW.

BECAUSE WE'RE ALL HERE AND WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU.

>> JOHN, THE WAY WE DO THINGS HERE NOW IS WE DO MILL THE STREET DOWN.

>> I MEAN, MORE MILL IT.

>> WELL, THEY'RE SO MUCH YOU CAN MILL, [LAUGHTER] DO YOU GET [OVERLAPPING]BASE MATERIAL?

>> WE'VE PASSED, WE ALWAYS SOMETIMES PUT BLACK TOP OVER, MAKING SURE MY POINTS MADE THAT SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES JUST MILL A LITTLE BIT.

>> WE HEARD MARK [OVERLAPPING]

>> WELL, I'LL SAY SOMETHING.

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I'LL TAKE THE STANCE OF FOUR BYPASS.

I KNOW AT THE MEETING A LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T.

BUT I DO RIDE MY BIKE AROUND TOWN, RIDING ON THE SIDEWALKS GOING UP AND DOWN, AND I'D JUST RATHER RIDE ON THE STREET, THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

BUT THAT ASIDE, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT WITHOUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S COMING OR THAT MAY COME.

LIKE COUNSELMAN WRIGHT HAD SAID, "THIS ALL DEPENDS ON FUNDING," IF WE GET IT OR NOT FOR A MAJOR RECONSTRUCTION.

THE BIGGEST POINT OF US DOING THIS RECONSTRUCTION IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING IS FOR DRAINAGE, THAT'S THE BIGGEST POINT.

IT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING ON TOP OF THIS TREE, BUT WHAT'S GOING UNDERNEATH IT.

LIKE COUNSELMAN BOOT POINTED OUT EARLIER, IT SHOULD BE TAKEN BLOCK-BY-BLOCK.

I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE A REASON IMMEDIATELY TO TAKE AWAY THE ANGLE PARKING.

I DRIVE THAT TREE THREE OR FOUR TIMES A DAY.

RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT THE LACK OF LINES OR WITH THE LACK OF LINES, YOU'RE TRAVELING SOUTH AND THEN A CAR IS TRAVELING NORTH AND THEY THINK THAT YOU'RE IN THEIR LANE.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HAZARD, BUT IT'S JUST RIGHT THERE AT THAT BLOCK.

THAT'S THE ONLY PART OF THE ROAD THAT'S LIKE THAT.

SO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, I THINK AS A CITY, WE DO NEED TO GET SOME LINES ON THE ROAD TO DESIGNATE PROPER LANES.

THAT'S ON US AS THE CITY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MIKEY?

>> I'M A MAN OF FEW WORDS.

>> YEAH, YOU ARE A MAN OF FEW WORDS.

>> I AGREE WITH CESIL. I SAY WE DON'T TOUCH THE PARKING AND WE JUST FIGURE A WAY AROUND IT.

>> GOT YOU. OKAY. THEN I'LL JUST DO THE WRAP-UP HERE, WE'RE WINDING DOWN ON THIS ITEM.

ONCE AGAIN, LIKE WE SAID, THIS IS THE PROCESS.

WE SIT AND WE LISTEN. OBVIOUSLY OUR ENGINEER IS HERE, HE'S LISTENING.

THE STAFF IS LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS.

SO THEY'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE DRAWING BOARD OR THE TABLE AND THEY'VE LISTENED TO WHAT WE'VE SAID, AND NOW THEY'LL GO BACK AND DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY CAN BE GREAT FOR YOU GUYS AND GREAT FOR OUR CITY.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR POSITION AS WELL AS WE REALIZE THAT, I THINK TOWNSEND AND WRIGHT SAID IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING TRAFFIC, AND I THINK I SAID, WE'RE GOING BE PUSHING TRAFFIC TO ANOTHER STREET.

WE GOT TO PREPARE THAT STREET FOR THAT TRAFFIC BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, IT'S JUST GOING TO GET TEARED UP AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO REPAIR IT, PUTTING MONEY INTO IT.

SO WE JUST GOT TO START THINKING FORWARD 5, 10, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

ONCE AGAIN, IT'S CONTINGENCY ON FUNDING.

WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY, KIND OF A GIVE-AND-TAKE.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIX THAT? WHAT DO WE GET AS A COMMUNITY? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CITY AS WELL.

I THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE WORKING, OUR STAFF IS TALKING TO THEIR STAFF AND I THINK THINGS ARE GOING WELL.

LIKE MR. GONGORA SAID, "THIS IS A PIECE OF THE PIE THAT WE'RE LOOKING HOW TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MUCH BETTER.

NOT JUST MOBILITY, BUT ALSO DRAINAGE." HE DID HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH SOME DRAINAGE IN THIS AREA.

HOPEFULLY, PART OF THE DESIGN OF THE STREET WILL GO WITH DRAINAGE.

THAT'S WHY THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE LOOKED AT AND SAID THIS IS A PROJECT WE WANT TO GO FOR.

BECAUSE WE KNOW NOT ONLY WILL INCREASE MOBILITY, HOPEFULLY, MAKE YOU GUYS GET WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE TO HAVE YOUR CHURCH AND WE THANK YOU, PASTOR JOEL, AND ALL YOUR PEOPLE THAT COME OUT IN GROWS.

WHEN I CALL YOU TEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, YOU'RE THERE. I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT HOW ALSO IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, NOT JUST ABOVE THE GROUND BUT BELOW THE GROUND. ALSO APPEARANCE.

HOW NICE IS IT GOING TO HAVE ONCE I GET A NEW COMPLEX AT THE COURTHOUSE, A NICE ROAD TO TRAVEL AND JUST MAKES THAT WHOLE DOWNTOWN, ALONG WITH YOU-ALL'S CHARGE AND ALL THE HOMES THAT ARE THERE AND BUSINESSES, A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO COME, A BEAUTIFUL HEART OF ANGLETON OR THE HEART OF BRAZORIA COUNTY.

THANK YOU, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.

WE'VE HAD THE HARD DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHERS AS WELL.

SOUTHSIDE DRY, RICH BIT, A NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST ONES TO TELL US,

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IT'S NOT JUST US SITTING UP HERE MAKING THE DECISION, IT'S ALL OF US TOGETHER DOING IT AS ONE." I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS, PASTOR, PRAY FOR US ON SUNDAY.

I'LL PRAY FOR US AT OUR CHURCH ON SUNDAY AND THAT STAFF CAN COME TOGETHER AND GET US A VIABLE SOLUTION THAT WE'RE ALL HAPPY WITH.

ONCE AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THE CORRESPONDENCE, THE EMAILS WE RECEIVED, THE TEXT MESSAGES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

CALL US, EMAIL US, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

REACH OUT, GIVE US YOUR CONCERNS BEFORE FESTERS.

IF YOU HEAR THE RUMOR, CALL US, WE'LL TRY AND DISPEL IT REAL QUICKLY.

WE'LL TRY TO SQUASH THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT NOBODY HAVE HEARTBURN.

WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY LOSE ANY SLEEP OVER IT.

WE WANT YOU ALL TO BE HAPPY JUST LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO BE HAPPY.

ONCE AGAIN, WE CAN'T THANK YOU GUYS ENOUGH FOR COMING.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING PART OF THIS PROCESS.

I THINK THAT'LL DO FOR ITEM NUMBER 12.

YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY AND LISTEN, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO, GO.

[LAUGHTER] WE'LL TAKE ABOUT 30 SECONDS TO ONE MINUTE SO YOU-ALL CAN EXIT THE ROOM AND THEN WE'LL LET PEOPLE SHUFFLE AROUND.

THANK YOU ALL. WE'LL HOLD OFF FOR ABOUT 30 SECONDS TO A MINUTE.

>> MR. MAYOR? [BACKGROUND]

>> YEAH.

>> I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT WE MOVE UP NUMBER 14, NEXT.

>> OKAY. WE'RE BACK? OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND COME BACK TO THE TABLE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING FLEXIBLE AND ALLOWING THE OTHER RESIDENTS TO LEAVE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO TO NUMBER 14

[14. Discussion and possible action on a proposal from The Lion Strategy Group for Executive Recruitment Services for Chief of Police and authorize the City Manager to execute the agreement upon legal review and appoint members to a Police Chief Committee.]

NUMBER 14, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROPOSAL FROM THE LINE STRATEGY GROUP FOR EXECUTIVE RECRUITMENT SERVICES FOR CHIEF OF POLICE AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT UPON LEGAL REVIEW AND APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO A POLICE CHIEF COMMITTEE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEPARTURE OF FORMER CHIEF OSMAS IN MARCH OF 2020, STAFF IS SEEKING TO ENGAGE LINE STRATEGY TO ASSIST IN THE SEARCH PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES REVIEW AND FINALIZATION OF THE SEARCH PROCESS AND SEARCH SCHEDULE AS WELL AS SOME OTHER ITEMS. IN ORDER TO RETAIN THE LINE STRATEGY GROUP, A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO FUND THE SEARCH IS REQUESTING THE AMOUNT OF $25,000.

LINE STRATEGY WOULD BE MIKE ALEXANDER, WHO HAS 25 YEARS OF POLICE OFFICER, CHIEF EXPERIENCE, AS WELL AS EXPERIENCE IN CITY MANAGEMENT.

MR. ALEXANDER LED OUR LEADERSHIP TRAINING IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

ALONG WITH THE LINES STRATEGY GROUP, THE CITY HAS CREATED A TASK FORCE.

THE TASK FORCE WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE POLICE CHIEF INTERVIEWS AND RECOMMENDATION.

STAFF WOULD LIKE COUNSEL'S FEEDBACK ON THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE POLICE CHIEF COMMITTEE AND IS OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.

PLEASE EMAIL THE CITY MANAGER BACK.

PCC IS COMPRISED OF RESIDENTS RUDY SANTOS, PASTOR ALONZO BROWN, UTMBS ELIZABETH ROMSHELL?

>> ROMSHEZIL.

>> ROMSHEZIL, ALONG WITH STAFF MEMBERS ANGELA HAYES, STEWART CROUCH, COLIN MARTIN, AND CHRIS WHITAKER.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF LINE STRATEGY GROUP AND THE PCC TO ASSIST THE POLICE CHIEF SEARCH AND SELECTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MS. COLIN.

WHAT WE'LL DO IS LIKE WE DID THE LAST ONE.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, SO WE'LL ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM.

SERGEANT RODRIGUEZ, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO TO THE PODIUM.

[NOISE]

>> [NOISE] THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. MY NAME IS MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ AND I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN OF ANGLETON FOR OVER 25 YEARS, CURRENTLY EMPLOYED WITH THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 13 YEARS, I'M AN OFFICER SERGEANT.

WE CAME TOGETHER WITH A FEW OF US FROM OUR CO-WORKERS TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE, AND WE WANT TO GIVE OUR THOUGHTS TO YOU ALL, LET YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THIS, SO I'M GOING TO READ A LENGTHY LETTER HERE SO JUST BARE WITH ME.

THE PERSPECTIVE OF EACH OF THE UNDERSIGNED IN THIS MATTER AS POLICE SERGEANTS IN THE ORGANIZATION IS LIKENED TO THE MID-MANAGEMENT LEVEL IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

WE ARE CHARGED WITH BEING PRACTITIONERS OF THE CENTRAL LAW ENFORCEMENT DUTIES ALL THE SAME AS LINE-LEVEL OFFICERS, BEING TRAINERS AND MENTORS TO BOTH NEW AND SEASONED OFFICERS, UNDERSTANDING THE GAP BETWEEN ADMINISTRATION AND THE LINE-LEVEL OFFICERS.

WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONVEYING AND ACTUATING THE MISSION AND OBJECTIVES OF ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO THE BOOTS ON THE STREET.

WE HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING ATTUNED TO THE POSTS OF THIS AGENCY, AND EACH OF THE UNDERSIGNED HAVE SERVED THE CITY AS POLICE OFFICERS FOR OVER 10 YEARS.

CHIEF VALDEZ WAS BORN AND RAISED IN ANGLETON, AND IS ONE OF THOSE FACES AND CHARACTERS THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO KNOW.

AFTER 38 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICE,

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HE'S OPEN-MINDED AND PROGRESSIVE BUT STILL HONORS TRADITION AND PROPRIETARY IN OUR PROFESSION, AND RESPECTS THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY BY MODELING HOW TO BE A PUBLIC SERVANT IN THE LITERAL SENSE OF THE TERM.

HE HAS BEEN REFRESHING TO LOOK AROUND THE PD AND SEE WHAT COULD BE DESCRIBED AS A MORALE BEGINNING TO INCREASE.

THE SENSE OF MORALE COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO HAVING SOMEONE IN THE LEAD WHO HAS EARNED THE TRUST OF HIS SUPERIORS, PEERS, AND SUBORDINATES, THROUGH YEARS BY HAVING PROVEN HIS HISTORY OF A SERVANT LEADER AND KEEPING HIS PROMISES TO THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE THAT WORK ON UNDERNEATH HIS WATCH.

CHIEF VALDEZ HAS A PRAGMATIC RESULT ORIENTED APPROACH THAT IS PURELY A PRODUCT OF HIS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A COP, SUPERVISOR, AND COMMANDER.

HIS INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF NOT ONLY TO HANG WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT OUR OTHER PARTNERS WITH THE BRAZORIA COUNTY CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, ARE ONE OF CHIEF VALDEZ'S STRONG ASSETS.

OUR PARAMOUNT MOTIVE IN WRITING THESE LETTERS IS TO ASSURE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PREPARED TO SERVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS, GUESTS, AND FUTURE RESIDENTS AS ANGLETON CONTINUES TO GROW.

CHIEF VALDEZ HAS SPENT HIS CAREER FOSTERING POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE COMMUNITY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND A BROAD RANGE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROFESSIONALS.

HE IS GENUINE WITH THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND DOES NOT EXPLOIT THEM OR USE THE GOOD OLD BOY SYSTEM WHICH TENDS TO OCCUR IN SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS WITH NO MOBILITY OF PERSONNEL.

THESE RELATIONSHIPS HELP OUR DEPARTMENT BUILD THE CONFIDENCE AND TRUST OF OUR CITIZENS.

ANOTHER AREA OF CONCERN THAT NECESSITATES THIS LETTER IS THAT, CHIEF VALDEZ WOULD NOT HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN OUR LAST SEARCH FOR CHIEF, BUT ONLY IN TERMS OF EDUCATION.

THE LAST SET OF REQUIREMENTS WERE FOR A BACHELOR'S DEGREE, BUT A MASTER'S PREFERRED.

WHILE CHIEF VALDEZ HAS NEITHER OF THOSE, HE MEETS THE REMAINDER OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE COMPLETION OF LEADERS COMMAND COLLEGE, LCC, THROUGH THE BILL BLACK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT MANAGEMENT INSTITUTE, LEMIT.

THIS PROGRAM IS OFFERED TO POLICE OFFICERS AT THE SERGEANT LEVEL RANK AND ABOVE, AS THE CHRISTORIAN OF THE TEXAS A&M, SAM HOUSTON STATE UNIVERSITY AND TEXAS WOMAN'S UNIVERSITY.

CHIEF VALDEZ RECEIVED SIX CREDIT HOURS AT THE GRADUATE LEVEL FOR COMPLETION.

THIS PROGRAM IS CONSIDERED VERY PRESTIGIOUS AMONG LAW ENFORCEMENT LEADERS AND ACCOMMODATE REQUISITE FOR COMMAND LEVEL POSITIONS IN TEXAS.

WHILE CHIEF VALDEZ MAY NOT HAVE THE FORMAL EDUCATION AND BACKGROUND AS A THEORIST, THE EQUIVALENCY LIES IN THE FACT THAT HE HAS BEEN A SUCCESSFUL PRACTITIONER OF POLICING IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE HAVING APPLIED THOSE THEORIES ON THE STREETS IN HIS LEADERSHIP.

WE ARE AWARE THAT COUNCIL HAS A CHOICE TO MAKE REGARDING THE EXPENDITURE OF THE $25,000 TO HIRE A FIRM TO ACTUATE SEARCH FOR A CHIEF.

WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTAND THE VIRTUES OF SUCH PROCESSES, SO THAT HIRING A CHIEF IS FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND WILL BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF ANGLETON AT LARGE.

THE CITIZENS DESERVE THAT.

WE BELIEVE THE COUNCIL IS CAPABLE OF CONDUCTING A BROAD SEARCH ON IT'S OWN, AND NARROWING IT DOWN TO A FEW CANDIDATES TO CONSIDER WITHOUT HAVING TO EMPLOY FROM AN OUTSIDE FIRM FOR SUCH A LARGE EXPENDITURE.

WE IMPLORE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER OFFERING A FULL TIME POSITION, A CHIEF OF POLICE TO INTERIM CHIEF VALDEZ, WITHOUT CONDUCTING THE AFOREMENTIONED HIRING AND SEARCH PROCESS.

THIS IS A TIME IN OUR CITY DEVELOPMENT WHEN THE CITIZENS NEED TO SEE THE STABILITY IN THOSE WHO ARE SERVING THEM.

IT IS A TIME WHEN THEY NEED GOVERNMENT WHO IS BEYOND IDEALISTIC.

THEY NEED LEADERS WHO ARE OUT THERE WORKING FOR THEM EVERY DAY, NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT WORKING FOR THEM.

CHIEF VALDEZ IS PLUGGED INTO THE CITY HAS BEEN LEADING PEOPLE TO DO SO, NOT JUST TALK FOR PLENTY OF YEARS.

IF COUNCIL DEEMS IT NECESSARY TO CONTINUE WITH THE FORMER HIRING SEARCH, WE IMPLORE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER CHIEF VALDEZ DESPITE NOT HAVING A COLLEGE DEGREE.

CERTAINLY, COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THAT EQUIVALENCY OF HAVING THE EXPERIENCE OF THE PRACTITIONER TO THAT THE FORMER LEARNING OF A THEORIST WHO MAY HAVE ACCELERATED THEIR RANKS WITHOUT FULL BENEFIT AND EXPERIENCE.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN TALKING AND DOING; IDEALISM AND ACTION.

WE ALSO IMPLORE COUNCIL FOR TRANSPARENCY AND RESPONSE AND RATIONALE TO OUR CLARITY TO DELINEATE THE REQUESTS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

WE DISCUSSED THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN PROMISED ANY BENEFIT OR GAIN FOR RECOMMENDING CHIEF VALDEZ FOR THE POSITION, WHERE OUR THOUGHTS ARE INDEPENDENT FROM ANY INFLUENCE BY CHIEF VALDEZ OR ANY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

THE INTERESTS OF OUR CITIZENS WE SERVE IS AT THE FOREFRONT, IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE BUILDING OUR GREAT DEPARTMENT WITH GREAT PEOPLE SO WE CAN SERVE THEM WITH EXCELLENCE, COULD BE PREPARED FOR THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY.

WE ARE DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO ANY NOTION OF THE GOOD OLD BOY SYSTEM AND WE'LL TAKE MEASURES TO COUNTER IF SUCH EVER WERE PRESENTED.

WE WANT THAT WHICH IS BEST FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, WHICH IN KIND WILL HELP US GIVE OUR BEST TO OUR CITIZENS.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION TO THIS MATTER AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE.

THAT'S RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED FROM SERGEANT KIM PARSONS, SERGEANT CHRIS LANGE, MYSELF, SERGEANT RODRIGUEZ, AND SERGEANT ARTIMORE.

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A GREAT CANDIDATE,

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I BELIEVE THAT HE'S PROVEN HIMSELF AND I BELIEVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND USE TAXPAYER MONEY, MY MONEY.

I LIVE HERE, I'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES.

WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN'T DO IT WITHIN OURSELVES AND SPEND MONEY IF WE'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO A STREET WITHIN TWO YEARS, WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? WHERE'S $25,000 COMING FROM? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, SO I BELIEVE IN THIS AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THIS LETTER, AND ARE CLEARLY HERE TO SUPPORT HIM.

I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO TAKE CONSIDERATION WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY AND I BELIEVE THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SENDING EMAIL WITH THIS INFORMATION AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

>> [APPLAUSE] WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD CLAIM?

>> YES.

>> GO AHEAD, SERGEANT MOORE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ARTHUR MOORE, I'M A PATROL SERGEANT FOR ANGLETON PD.

I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST 11 YEARS.

GREW UP, BORN, AND RAISED IN ANGLETON.

I MOVED OUT FIVE YEARS AGO IN WEST COLUMBIA.

I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM PASTOR OLIVIER THAT HE SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO BE READ DURING THIS SESSION.

"DEAR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M WRITING YOU TODAY TO VOICE MY OPINION ABOUT THE POLICE CHIEF SEARCH.

I HAD BEEN A CITIZEN OF ANGLETON FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW AND ONE OF THE CHAPLAINS OF OUR PD, AND IT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL.

I LOVE OUR CITY AND THE RESIDENTS.

I HAVE WATCHED AS WE HAVE PAID HEAD HUNTERS FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND POLICE CHIEF.

IN MOST CASES, I HAD BEEN IN FAVOR OF THE SEARCHES, BUT NOT THIS TIME.

I HAVE HEARD THAT WE NEED SOMEONE WITH A MASTER'S DEGREE.

I'VE HEARD, WHY SHOULD WE LOOK OUTSIDE OF OUR DEPARTMENT? I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I UNDERSTAND WANTING SOMEONE OF HIGHER EDUCATION, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS EDUCATION IS LIMITED TO BOOK KNOWLEDGE AND STUDY HABITS, ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT MOST EMPLOYEES CONSIDER EXPERIENCE AN EQUIVALENT TO A DEGREE.

I WANT TO SAY THAT A MASTER DEGREE OR ADVANCED EDUCATION CANNOT TEACH WHAT LOOPY VALDEZ POSSESSES; HEART, LOVE FOR THE CITY, AND HIS DEPARTMENT, CHARISMA.

NO ONE THAT HAS EVER MET LOOPY HAS WALKED AWAY WITHOUT SMILING, EVEN BEING ARRESTED.

[LAUGHTER] CHARACTER, HE SAYS WHAT HE MEANS AND HE MAKES GOOD ON HIS PROMISES.

DEDICATION, HE SERVED OUR CITY WITH DIGNITY AND DONE EVERYTHING IN HIS ABILITY TO MAKE OUR CITY FEEL LIKE A HOME, ONE THAT IS SAFE FOR YOU TO WANT TO STAY IN.

WHEN I MET LOOPY FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT IS NOT BECAUSE I SEARCHED HIM OUT, IT WAS BECAUSE HE SEARCHED ME OUT AND MADE ME NOT ONLY WELCOME BUT INFORMED.

HE TRULY LOVES THE CITY AND OUR CITY LOVES HIM.

I THINK NOT ONLY COULD HE DO THE JOB, BUT HE WOULD EXCEL.

I THINK THAT HIRING FROM WITHIN MAKES A STATEMENT TO OUR OFFICERS THAT THEY CAN BE PROMOTED AND IF THEY ARE FAITHFUL, THEY CAN BE REWARDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

I'M INCLUDING THE NAMES OF THE PASTORS IN OUR CITY THAT HAVE ASKED ME TO INCLUDE THEIR NAMES, AS WELL AS SUPPORT FOR LOOPY VALDEZ.

REVEREND PEDRO LOPEZ, SAINT JOHN LUTHERAN, APD CHAPLAIN, REVEREND JOHN MCKINNEY, FIRST NOW METHODIST, APD CHAPLAIN, PASTOR SIRI MASKARILLA; LIFE CHURCH, PASTOR ALEX MONTEZ; LA VIDA CHURCH, PASTOR MIKE HAMMONDS; FIRST ASSEMBLY, REVEREND MICHAEL GABLE; PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, ANGLETON APD CHAPLAIN.

ALONG WITH THIS TOPIC TONIGHT, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUPPORT JOHN MCKINNEY AND HIS CONGREGATION FOR THEM KEEPING THE PARKING." SO HE WANTED THAT READ.

BUT ON A SERIOUS NOTE, I BELIEVE WHAT THE PASTOR IS SAYING.

WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE AGENCY TO PROMOTE THE HEAD SPOT? WE HAVE PEOPLE WILLING AND ABLE TO FILL THAT POSITION.

I BELIEVE THAT HIS 30 PLUS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE SPEAKS FOR HIM, THAT HE HAS THE ABILITY TO RUN THIS AGENCY IN THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS IT AND THE DIRECTION THAT'S THE CITIZENS NEED IT.

WITH BEING ABLE TO PROMOTE FROM THE INSIDE, IT GIVES ALL THESE OTHERS OFFICERS AN IDEA THAT THEY CAN MAKE TO THE TOP AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO A WHOLE DIFFERENT AGENCY AND HAVE A FIRM PICK THE NEXT POLICE CHIEF.

I THINK IT'S AN UNNECESSARY EXPENDITURE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US FILL FROM WITHIN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SERGEANT. [APPLAUSE] WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. COLLEAGUE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> NO. WE JUST ASK THE STAFF AND THE COUNCIL MAKER.

>> DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE HIM.

>> OH, I'M SORRY. THIS IS JEFF WHITFIELD, HE IS WITH THE LION STRATEGY GROUP IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, AT THIS TIME.

>> OKAY. OR CHRIS, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY THAT WE'LL HAVE OUR DISCUSSION UP HERE UNLESS YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

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>> SO AGAIN, MIKE ALEXANDER CAME FOR LEADERSHIP TRAINING WITH THE ASSAULT GROUP.

I'VE BEEN IN GOVERNMENT FOR 31 YEARS AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST LEADERSHIP SESSIONS I HAD.

I THINK WE ALL WALKED AWAY WITH "WOW" FOR WHAT HE BROUGHT TO THE GAME.

IN THE THEORY OF LOOKING FOR A NEW POLICE CHIEF, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I GOT WAS THIS IS WHAT WE DID BEFORE.

THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE AGAIN.

SO INSTEAD OF HIRING A FIRM LIKE STR WHO MAY NOT HAVE A POLICE CHIEF AS AN ADVISOR, MIKE ALEXANDER, AND HIS FIRM, I THINK, WOULD BE THE RIGHT FOLKS TO DO THAT IF THAT'S WHAT WE CHOOSE.

WE'D HAVE TO DEFINE AGAIN WHAT WE WANT FOR THE CITY SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

AGAIN, MODELING THIS POLICE CHIEF COMMITTEE AFTER WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE.

SO THAT'S JUST A BASE RECOMMENDATION IF YOU HAVE ADDS OR DELETES OR SOMETHING, I'M WELCOME TO FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL, TIME FOR DISCUSSION; YOUR THOUGHTS, CONCERNS, WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US GO AS A GROUP.

>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

ARE THERE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE MUST FOLLOW IN SEARCHING FOR A POLICE CHIEF? IS THERE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, WE GOT TO DO ABC?

>> NO.

>> NO.

>> TRAVIS, JOHN, MARK.

>> CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOUR PROCESS WOULD BE? I MEAN, YOU CAME ALL THIS WAY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOU OUT, SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.

MY NAME IS JEFF WHITFIELD.

MY COLLEAGUE, MIKE ALEXANDER DID APOLOGIZE.

HE WASN'T ABLE TO COME DOWN THIS EVENING.

NOT ONLY HAS MIKE ALEXANDER, WE HAVE TWO OTHER PARTNERS, BOTH OF WHICH ARE FORMER POLICE CHIEFS, BOTH OF WHICH ARE CITY MANAGERS.

SO WE COME TO THIS PROCESS WITH A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE OF NAVIGATING THESE COMPLEX SITUATIONS.

FRANKLY, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT, I THINK THAT EXPLAINING THE PROCESS OF HOW WE DO THIS MAY ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS BECAUSE WE BEGIN THE SEARCH FOR ANY POSITION BY HEARING FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, THE COUNCIL, THOSE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN DETERMINING WHAT IT IS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

THE PROCESS BEGINS WITH DEVELOPING A BENCHMARK.

WHAT IS IT THAT THE PEOPLE OF ANGLETON SEEK IN THEIR NEXT CHIEF OF POLICE? I APPRECIATED THE COMMENT, I THINK THE MAYOR MADE EARLIER ABOUT THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE COUNCIL, THIS IS ABOUT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS PROCESS IS.

SO I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE YOU'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER THAT POLICE CHIEF COMMITTEE.

WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, HEAR THE VOICES, PERHAPS SOME OF THE VOICES WE'VE HEARD IN THE ROOM TONIGHT ALREADY, DETERMINING WHAT IT IS THAT YOU NEED TO FILL THIS ROLE.

AFTER THAT PROCESS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF, WITH SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS DEVELOPING THE BENCHMARK, AFTER WE'VE HEARD VOICES FROM EVERYONE, WE THEN ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A SYSTEM THAT WE'VE USED IN PRIVATE SECTOR AND IN PUBLIC SECTOR THAT ALLOWS US TO TRACK THE SPECIFIC CAPABILITIES WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO THAT WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY SPEAKING TO PEOPLE, PERHAPS PEOPLE INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION OR PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE ORGANIZATION, WE'RE NOT JUST LISTENING TO THIS IS SOMEONE'S FAVORITE, THIS PERSON KNOWS SO AND SO, WE ARE SPECIFICALLY ALIGNING WHAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS DECIDED THAT IT WANTS WITH WHAT THE CANDIDATES HAVE AVAILABLE.

ONCE YOU HAVE THAT PROCESS OF LINED UP THE BENCHMARKS, EVERY CANDIDATE COMPARING HOW THEIR SKILLS AND ABILITIES, AND EXPERIENCE ALIGN WITH THOSE BENCHMARK QUALITIES, THEN WE COME TOGETHER AND HAVE SPOKEN TO THEIR REFERENCES, SPOKEN TO THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE DECIDE IN THE EARLY PROCESS WHO WE NEED TO SPEAK TO, WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH A SET OF OUR TOP FIVE.

FROM THAT, WE THEN DETERMINE HOW DEEP DO YOU WANT TO GO NEXT? DO WE WANT TO GO AND ACTUALLY CONDUCT INTERVIEWS WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT KNOW THAT CANDIDATE? WE DIG UP ALL THE INFORMATION, WE PUT TOGETHER A PACKET THAT IS VERY SCIENTIFICALLY BASED, BASED UPON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, AND BRINGING TO YOU A SUMMARY OF BASED

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>> WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF CANDIDATES THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED FROM INSIDE THE DEPARTMENT? WHEN YOU GO OUT AND DO YOUR SEARCH, HOW OFTEN DOES THE PERSON THAT'S INSIDE THE DEPARTMENT GET THE JOB?

>> I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC NUMBER.

I WOULD SAY CERTAINLY IT'S FREQUENT.

IT IS GREATER THAN 25 PERCENT, LESS THAN 75 PERCENT.

IT'S IN THAT MIDDLE AREA.

WE AS AN ORGANIZATION, AS YOUR ADVISORS, JUST LIKE ANY ADVISOR, WOULDN'T TELL YOU HOW IT IS TO GO, WE GUIDE YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT IT IS YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY WANT AND HOW TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING THERE.

FRANKLY, IT HELPS ADDRESS IT LATER IF SOMEONE COMPLAINS, WELL, YOU JUST HIRED SO-AND-SO BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THERE, YOU KNOW SO AND SO.

YOU CAN SAY, "NO, WE'VE HAD A RIGOROUS, SCIENTIFICALLY BASED PROCESS AND THIS WAS THE RIGHT CANDIDATE."

>> TRAVIS.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM JUDGE AS LONG AS THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION. [OVERLAPPING]

>> GOT YOU. WE AS THE COUNCIL OR WITH STAFF, WOULD DETERMINE ALL THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA POINTS FOR QUALIFICATION.

WE HAVEN'T PUT A THING IN STONE.

JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATIONS, YOUR CURRENT STAFF THAT ARE HERE IN JOCKEY PROBABLY ATTEST TO THIS AS WELL, MANY YEARS AGO, I KEPT SAYING 10 OR 15, BUT AT ONE POINT, THE COUNCIL DECIDED AS WE START HIRING DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE STARTED LOOKING AT FORMAL EDUCATION OR THERE WAS A BACHELORS AND MASTERS WE JUST SAID THAT, WE STARTED LOOKING AT THAT.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF THEM MAYBE HARD TO SWALLOW A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT HIT THE MARK AND THEY MAYBE JUST DIDN'T GET TO GO TO COLLEGE.

WE GET THAT. WE'VE DONE THAT AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE PART OF WAS WHAT WE WERE JUST MOVING SOME OF THAT STAFF TO A LEVEL OF JUST SOME OF THAT FORMAL EDUCATION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE IT AT THE TIME AND WE HAD A LOT OF STUMBLES AND FALLS AS A CITY WITH DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THAT LACK BECAUSE WE DID GREW UP A LOT OF FOLKS BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE WERE SMALLER CITY BUT JUST LIKE THE GUYS KNOW, AND STAFF KNOW AND OFFICERS THAT ARE HERE, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE.

WE'RE HERE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT AS A CRITERIA POINT TO HELP YOU HELP US FORMULATE THOSE CRITERIA POINTS. YOU GUYS ARE SPOKEN.

WE ALL KNOW, WE ALL LOVE LOOPY. WE DO.

HE HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT STOOD BY OUR SIDE THROUGH THICK AND THIN.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET THERE, WHETHER IT'S GOING OUTSIDE, HIRING AN AGENCY, SAYING WITH INSIDE, IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGER DECISIONS THIS COUNCIL MAKES.

YOUR POLICE CHIEF, YOUR CITY MANAGER.

SORRY, JUDITH, WE DO CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL, [BACKGROUND] BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO BIGGIES THAT IMPACT YOUR COMMUNITY THE MOST.

WE HAVE TO SIT THERE AND FIGURE THIS OUT IS AS SIX INDIVIDUALS, WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR INPUT AND YOUR PASSION.

I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE, I SEE YOU GUYS STAND BEHIND THAT MAN.

WE JUST GOT TO COME TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE GO TONIGHT AND WHERE WE MOVE FORWARD TO.

SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ALWAYS BEST THAN WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME.

I'VE BEEN THROUGH THREE CITY MANAGER SEARCHES, TWO POLICE CHIEF SEARCHES NOW.

EVERY TIME IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT THAT'S MY TWO CENTS.

AS FAR AS WHERE I SEE IT.

I KNOW WE HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND I'LL GET A CALLING UP THERE TO SEE WHAT OUR POLICY IS, CRITERIA FOR EDUCATION, FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS WITHIN THE CITY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT POLICY IS.

MAYBE YOU DO. IF YOU KNOW IT, PLEASE, IF YOU GO RESEARCH IT UP, WE'LL GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY CRITERIA [BACKGROUND] FOR ANY POSITION.

USUALLY, WHEN I GO TO POST IT, DEPENDING ON THE POSITION I DISCUSS WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK THAT THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE SEEKING THE MASTERS OR ANY OTHER EDUCATIONAL LEVEL IS COMING FROM THE LAST SEARCH.

I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, BUT WE HAVEN'T EVEN DEVELOPED A FORMAL JOB DESCRIPTION OR A CRITERIA.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

COUNCIL OPEN TO YOU GUYS.

IF YOU WANT TO KEEP ON, GO.

>> [OVERLAPPING] OH, YEAH. I GOT LOTS TO [LAUGHTER] GO.

>> I KNOW. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THAT WRAP UP FOR YOUR PROCESS.

>> I BELIEVE THAT I WOULD BE A HYPOCRITE IF I STOOD HERE TONIGHT AND SAY WE NEEDED TO APPROVE THIS FUNDING REQUESTS RIGHT NOW.

[01:05:02]

WE WERE GOING TO KEEP HIM ON AN INTERIM BASIS AND SEE HOW IT WORKED AND IT'S WORKED OUT WELL.

WE GAVE YOU A SHOT.

I FEEL IF I DIDN'T DO THAT GOING FORWARD AT THIS POINT, I'D BE A HYPOCRITE.

TO ME RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T DO THIS, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT NOW.

I THINK LOOPY'S HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS IN THE JOB AT THE MOMENT.

WAS IT SIX MONTHS [BACKGROUND] FOR YOU? TO ME, I THINK RIGHT NOW IS LOOPYS TIME TO SEE HOW HE DOES.

TO ME, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CREDIT IF I APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

KNOWING THAT WE HAVE OFFICERS HERE WHO'S SUPPORTING.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING NEGATIVE SO FAR, BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB.

TO ME, I SAY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER DURING BUDGET AT THAT POINT, AND SEE, AND MAKE THAT DECISION.

THAT'S REALLY MY TAKE.

IF WE DO DECIDE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, I DO WANT TO ADD NAMES TO THIS SEARCH COMMITTEE.

>> JUST BEING A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, I HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY A NUMBER OF CITIZENS WHO COME FORWARD AND SPOKEN POSITIVELY ABOUT CHIEF VALDEZ.

I THINK THAT'S SPEAKS HIGHLY. THANK YOU.

LOOK AT THE FACT THAT HIS OFFICERS ARE HERE AND HIS SUPPORT, AGAIN, SPEAKS VOLUMES.

ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT THIS SEARCH AND I AGREE WITH MR. MAYOR, THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DECISION WE MAKE BECAUSE TO ME, PUBLIC SAFETY'S ISSUE NUMBER ONE, IF YOU CAN'T HAVE A SAFE COMMUNITY, YOU CAN'T LIVE COMFORTABLY.

THE PERSON WHO HEADS YOUR DEPARTMENT IS THE FACE OF YOUR DEPARTMENT IN MANY WAYS, HE'S THE FACE OF YOUR CITY,NO OFFENSE, MR. MAYOR, BUT HE IS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE WHO IS NOT, I GUESS IN SOME WAYS BEHOLDING TO ELECTIONS, BUT IN MANY WAYS, HE STILL GET IN THERE AND GET THE JOB DONE OR IT COULD BE SHE IN THIS CASE IT'S A HE.

WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT DECISION.

I DON'T WANT TO RUSH THINGS BUT THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE RECEIVED HAS BEEN POSITIVE.

THE MORALE THAT THEY SPEAK OF IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

I'M WITH JOHN COMPLETELY IN THE IDEA THAT WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW CHIEF VALDEZ TO SERVE THE ROLE AS CHIEF, AT LEAST IN INTERIM CAPACITY.

LET'S GET THROUGH THE SIX-MONTH MARK AND LET'S COME BACK AND RE-EVALUATE.

I'M ALSO OPEN TO THE IDEA THAT IF WE WERE TO SO CHOOSE TO ALLOW THAT PRECEDE THIS MATTER, YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT A BOARD OF PEOPLE.

HAVE THE CHIEF SIT DOWN WITH THESE PEOPLE WITH STAKES IN THE COMMUNITY, THESE COMMUNITY SHAREHOLDERS, AND LET THEM GET THEIR TRUE, HONEST OPINION OF HIM WHETHER IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY OR INVITE THEM INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW THAT WE GET SOUGHT SECURITY ISSUES.

YOU CAN'T JUST BE INVITING ANYBODY IN, BUT LET THEM SEE HOW IT'S RUN.

LET'S SEE HOW IT'S ORGANIZED.

LET'S SEE HOW IT'S PROGRESSING, IT'S MOVING, AND THEY CAN MAKE HONEST ASSESSMENTS.

NOT BEHOLDING TO GIVE THE CHIEF A THUMBS UP.

THEY GO IN THERE WITH AN OPEN MIND AND THEY GIVE US HONEST FEEDBACK.

I THINK IT IT GIVES US A TWO-STEP PROCESS.

GIVES US WHAT WE BELIEVE WE SEE, AND KNOW, AND WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING BACK TO US GETS ANOTHER VOICE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW FROM MY SHORT TIME HERE, THAT CHIEF VALDEZ WAS APPROACHED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE THE ANGLE TO POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR MAYBE BETTER PAY AND HE PASSED ON.

I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE WAS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF NEGOTIATING, BUT WE FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO ELEVATE HIS POSITION TO ASSIST THE CHIEF.

[01:10:02]

IF WE WERE WILLING TO FIGHT THAT OTHER AGENCY OR MAYBE FIND SOMETHING, BUT COMPETE AGAINST THAT OTHER AGENCY FOR HIS TO RETAIN HIS SERVICES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL CHANGE SINCE THAT TIME.

NOW, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER MAYBE BEING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE LATER THAN IT IS ACTUALLY THE LEADER BUT NOW HE'S GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY AND MAYBE HE RUNS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY.

FEEDBACK, I'VE RECEIVED SEEMS HE HAS BEEN BUT WE'LL GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE TIME.

I HOLD A POSITION WHERE I SEE THESE THINGS, THERE'S NOTHING TO INDICATE THAT I HAVE SEEN THAT THERE HAS BEEN ANY REGRESSION OR STEP BACK FROM THIS AGENCY.

THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN IF WE'VE SEEN THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE.

WHY, IF WE'RE SEEING THE SAME, SIMILAR AND MAYBE EVEN BETTER? BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS MORAL SUPPORT OF THE BACKING OF YOUR CHIEF.

I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO THERE YET AND WE CAN GIVE THEM AS OPPORTUNITY.

LIKE I SAID, I WOULD ENCOURAGE FEEDBACK BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY LEADERS.

SOME OF THE NAMES IF YOU READ OFF, JOHN WANTS TO ADD MORE.

I'M SURE THAT CHIEF WOULD BE WILLING TO HOST THESE PEOPLE AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.

I JUST ECHO A LOT OF WHAT JOHN SAID [BACKGROUND] BECAUSE IN THE END, IF WE HAVE THE PERSON RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF US, WE DON'T NEED TO GO OUTSIDE AGENCY.

I'M WILLING TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.

>> MR. BOOT, YOU HAVE SOMETHING? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR INPUT.

[NOISE] I KNOW THEY'RE GREAT LEADERS, SURROUND THEMSELVES WITH GREAT PEOPLE.

THE ONES WHO ARE BETTER GET RID OF THE ONES THAT DON'T ADD TO THE [LAUGHTER] TEAM.

I SEE SOME OF THAT ALREADY HAPPENING.

WE'RE UNDER NO RUSH.

WE HAVE A GREAT MAN SERVING THE PURPOSE RIGHT NOW.

I'D LIKE TO COME UP WITH OUR LIST OF WHAT WE WANT IN A POLICE CHIEF.

WELL, WE KNOW WE WANT IN A POLICE CHIEF.

WE BOUND TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A LIST [LAUGHTER] SOMEWHERE [BACKGROUND] THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THIS IN SESSION.

JUST NOTHING AGAINST YOUR FIRM [LAUGHTER].

IF IT COMES DOWN TO NEEDING THEIR ASSISTANCE, I TRUST CHRIS AND HIS JUDGMENT OF THESE FOLKS.

BUT I'M NOT BEING SO FRUGAL IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM THAT.

I'M GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY TO HIRE A FIRM, TO SEEK OUT A POLICE CHIEF OR ANY OTHER HEAD.

IF WE NEED TO GET ON THAT ROUTE.

WELL I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO THERE YET. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MIKE.

>> I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT EVERY ONE SAID.

I THINK HE'S DEFINITELY EARNED A SHOT.

IT'S TOO SOON WE'RE NOT IN A HURRY LIKE HE SAID.

LET'S REVISIT IN SIX MONTHS, I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MR. GORE.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> [LAUGHTER] YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE MAN OF FEW WORDS.

>>NO. I MEAN, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, HE'LL BE DOING A GREAT JOB AND IT'S ONE OF OUR TOP POSITIONS IN THE CITY.

JUST LIKE CHRIS, HE WAS GIVEN A CHANCE TO PROVE HIMSELF AND I THINK IT WILL BE, DESERVES THAT AT THE VERY LEAST.

WHICH IN MY EYES, HE'S DOING THAT ALREADY.

IN HIRING OUTSIDE CONSULTANCY I'M ALWAYS APPREHENSIVE ABOUT THAT, JUST BUDGETARY WISE.

ALTHOUGH A STREET IS QUITE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN $25,000, JUST POINT THAT OUT.

[01:15:05]

>> WHAT I'M HEARING IS, SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOOD TO GO WITH THE DIRECTION OF A SIX MONTH JOB INTERVIEW.

WELL, THE BIG TESTS WILL BE BUDGET.

I THINK HE'S BEEN THROUGH MANY OF THEM.

BUT JUST BY LISTENING TO THE GUYS INTERVIEWED, SIX MONTH IN A ROOM, MEET WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT MAYBE WE APPOINT TONIGHT.

GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THOSE GUYS, IT'S NO SECRET, WE SEEM TO BE OUT TIME SO HE'S DONE THIS INTERVIEW WITH US.

BUT YOU'RE OUR HR, WE'RE IN NO HURRY.

BEFORE AN OPPORTUNITY, WE DID DO THAT WITH CHRIS.

HE DIDN'T CHECK ALL THE BOXES, BUT THERE WAS THAT GUT FEELING THAT YOU ALL SURPRISED ME THAT NIGHT.

BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME DIRECTION THERE, SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME MOTION TONIGHT TO DO SOME OF THOSE TARGETS AND KEEP GOING WHERE WE AT AND GO AHEAD CHRIS.

>> LOOPY IS DOING A GREAT JOB AND I'VE GOTTEN THAT FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY.

I'VE GOTTEN THAT FROM POLICE OFFICERS, I'VE GOTTEN THAT FROM OTHER STAFF AND SO I'M NOT DOUBTING HIS PERFORMANCE I'M NOT DOUBTING HIS FUTURE CAPABILITY.

ALL AGAIN, I'M JUST SEEKING DIRECTION BASED OFF OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, AND AGAIN MY INTENT IS NOT TO RUSH IT.

IT'S JUST TO ADDRESS THE DIRECTION OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

JEFF, CORRECT IF I'M WRONG BUT THIS WOULD BE A MULTI MONTH PROCESS.

BY THE TIME YOU WOULD SEEK RESUMES, YOU RANK THEM AND STACK THEM AND YOU DO GET THE PCC INVOLVED IN ALL THOSE STUFF AND GET FEEDBACK.

AGAIN, I'M JUST SEEKING DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, I'VE HEARD YOUR DIRECTION.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO APPOINT THE COMMITTEE WITH ADDITIONAL MEMBERS, THEN WE'LL GET THEM INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AND COME BACK AND REPORT BACK TO YOU IN SIX MONTHS.

>> I WOULD STILL LIKE LOOPY TO INTERVIEW WITH US, A FORMAL INTERVIEW.

>> WE COULD PROBABLY ARRANGE THAT.

>> GREAT [LAUGHTER].

>> I WAS WAITING FOR SOMETHING [BACKGROUND] I MEAN, IT'S ONLY FAIR.

>> WE'LL SEE WHAT MISS JUDITH HAS FOR US.

[BACKGROUND]

>> I'M SORRY.

>> GO AHEAD IT'S FINE.

>> WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT.

YOUR CHARTER SAYS THAT IT'S THE CITY MANAGER'S JOB, BUT IT'S SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL.

WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING, BECAUSE AS OF TODAY OR 10 MINUTES AGO, HE'S YOUR INTERIM POLICE CHIEF.

IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, IT SOUNDS EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT STATUS FROM INTERIM TO ACTING FOR SIX MONTHS.

IF THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING, AND THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU TAKE A VOTE ON THAT, SO TAKE FORMAL ACTION.

>> BUT IS THERE A WAY TO KEEP THE RHYTHM FOR SIX MONTHS IF [INAUDIBLE] SO CHOOSE TO AS WELL.

BECAUSE WE HATE TO [OVERLAPPING] GO CHIEF AND THEN LET'S SAY SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS WHICH I DO NOT WANT TO THAT, BUT HAVE.

BUT WHAT IF YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THAT?

>> [OVERLAPPING] WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

>> I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THE TITLE AT ANY POINT IN KEEPING HIM AS INTERIM POLICE CHIEF FOR NOW FOR SIX MONTHS.

>> HE'S ACTING, HE'S NOT INTERIM SO THERE'S A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE NOT MUCH AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WOULD HAVE ANY INPORT.

BUT YOU ARE ALL USING THE TERM ACTING.

>> WHAT'S THE JOB TITLE RIGHT NOW COLIN, ON PAPER FOR LOOPY?

>> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE HIM AS INTERIM POLICE CHIEF.

I DO NOT HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION FOR AN INTERIM POLICE CHIEF, SO HE IS USING THE POLICE CHIEF'S JOB DESCRIPTION TO GO BY AS INTERIM?

>> AS INTERIM?

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

>> TO THIS POINT THEN, APPOINT HIM AS ACTING CHIEF UNTIL OTHERWISE, AND THEN APPOINT THE PCC AND I'LL REPORT BACK IN SIX MONTHS.

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>> I MEAN, I'M PERSONALLY INCLINED NOT TO TAKE ANY ACTION RIGHT NOW.

LET THE THREE OF YOU ALL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PLAN IS, AND THEN COME BACK TO US WITH A PLAN OF HOW WE PROCEED.

I WOULD HATE TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO OFF THE CUFF, AND WE DO IT WRONG AND THEN WE HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN.

>> MY OPINION IS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LOOPY BEING THE PERMANENT CHIEF, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST APPOINT THE PCC SO YOU GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK INTO PERFORMANCE POTENTIAL COMMUNITY GOALS OR WHATEVER.

>> I SEE WHAT HE SAID, SO LET'S SEE TWO POINTS.

A, LEAVE THE TERM, LEAVE THE TITLE THAT HE HAS NOW.

THEN APPOINT THE GROUP, LET THEM DO THEIR THING AND THEY REPORT BACK TO US.

THEN AT THAT POINT MAYBE WE COULD DO AN INTERVIEW AS WELL WITH HIM AND THEN BY THEN WE GET THE DUCKS IN A ROW THAT SAY, IS GOING TO BE INTERIM, ACTING AND ALL THAT.

AS HE SAID, GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND THEN WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A SIX MONTH WINDOW.

HOWEVER, WE CAN TOWEL THAT TO KEEP THAT SIX MONTH WINDOW TO GET THE PROCESS TO GO AT SIX MONTHS.

YOU REPORT BACK TO US, YOU SAY HE'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB, THE PCC HAS MADE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD [OVERLAPPING] AND SWITCH THE NECK.

>> I'M FINE WITH DOING THE PCC AND EVERYTHING.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO CHANGE TITLES OR ANYTHING AT THIS MOMENT UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

>> DOES THIS SIX MONTHS INCLUDE TIME SERVED? [LAUGHTER]

>> WE HAVE A JAILER NOW SO WE CAN KEEP TRACK.

>> WELL, HONEST QUESTION THOUGH I MEAN CERTAINLY THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE TIME THAT HE'S ALREADY SERVED AS [INAUDIBLE]?

>> HOWEVER YOU ALL WHAT DO CALL IT, I MEAN AGAIN, WE'RE IN NO RUSH.

I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS WHAT DIRECTION YOU ALL WANT TO GO SO THAT WE'RE ALL DOING THIS TOGETHER.

>> THIS WAS BEFORE MY TIME, WHEN YOU WERE THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

WAS IT ON A SIX-MONTH WINDOW AS AN INTERN?

>> I THINK I WAS HIRED FOR SIX MONTHS [INAUDIBLE].

>> HE WAS GOING TO BE CONTRACTED AFTER SIX MONTHS.

>> OKAY.

>> THEN WE PULLED THE CONTRACT IN MONTH THREE OR FOUR.

>> YOU CALLED HIM AN INTERIM THE ENTIRE TIME?

>> THAT'S CORRECT IN THREE MONTHS, WE ENDED UP HIRING HIM.

>> IN THREE MONTHS THEN WE OFFICIALLY BLESSED IT, AND TOOK THE INTERIM OFF.

>> YOU MUST BEEN REALLY IMPRESSIVE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> HE DIDN'T MESS ANYTHING UP.

>> HE'S A GOOD COOK.

>> I KNOW JOHN, AND I PROBABLY DIFFERENT ON THIS ONE.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP MY MIND WRAPPED AROUND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INTERIM, AND ACTING.

I WANT HIM TO ENJOY THE FULL CAPABILITIES, AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF A CHIEF AS IF THEY WERE ACTING AS THE CHIEF IN RESPONSIBILITIES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY LIMITATIONS PLACED ON BY THE TERM OF INTERIM VERSUS ACTING.

>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

>> LOOPY, AND I HAD THE CONVERSATION.

I SAID YOU'RE IN CHARGE.

HIRE, FIRE, PROMOTE, BUDGET, WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO TO RUN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND HE'S DONE THAT.

>> BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TEST THERE THEIR ABILITIES WITHOUT GIVING THE WHOLE. [OVERLAPPING].

>> I HAVEN'T GIVEN HIM ANY LIMITATIONS THAT I KNOW ABOUT.

>> BUT WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL.

THIS IS HOW THE CHARTER WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STAY WITHIN THE COMPLIANCE OF THE CHARTER.

>> WELL, SO THE ONLY REASON I RAISED THE ISSUE IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP, AND SAY THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, THEN YOU NEED TO DO IT.

BUT THE CHARTER SAYS THAT ANY DECISION REGARDING THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS THE CITY MANAGER'S DECISION SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.

>> OKAY.

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT THE IDEA IN YOUR HEAD.

I WAS JUST POINTING OUT THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW.

THAT YOU'RE USING THE WORD ACTING.

INTO JOHN'S CREDIT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY STATUTORY OR ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION AS TO WHETHER IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S THE PERCEPTION.

IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AN INTERIM IS SOMETIMES SOMEBODY THAT IS SERVING IN THAT ROLE BECAUSE THE CHIEF IS UNAVAILABLE OR ON VACATION.

IT'S MORE PERCEPTION THAN DEFINITION.

WHEREAS AN ACTING IS JUST WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT PERSON IS ACTING.

SINCE YOU ARE USING THE VERBIAGE, I JUST THOUGHT I BETTER TELL YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOU NEED TO DO IT.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DESIRE.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THE PERSON WHO JUST IS THE CHIEF? YOU DON'T CALL HIM ACTING, YOU JUST SAY THE CHIEF.

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>> COLLIE DOES MATTER IT IF HOW YOU HAVE IT CAN CATEGORIZE OR CLASSIFIED FOR YOU?

>> IT DOESN'T MATTER.

>> OKAY.

>> IT'S ONLY ABOUT TWO THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.

>> PUT IT OUT THERE AS THE MOTION AS IN THEY KEEP HIM AS THE ACTING CHIEF FOR SIX MONTHS WITH ALREADY GOING BACK, AND WHEN HE STARTED.

HE'S HAD TOO MUCH CREDIT, LET'S PUT THAT AWAY OR HOWEVER HOW MANY DAYS IT IS.

THEN THE PCC COMMITTEE, AND WE CAN DO TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS, AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THAT, AND THE [INAUDIBLE] CHOOSES.

WE COULD SEE BY ADDING SOME NAMES THAT ARE PROVEN THAT AS WELL.

>> IF YOU WANT TO SAY FEEDBACK IN FOUR, SIX MONTHS.

>> FOUR MONTHS.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NAME.

[OVERLAPPING] YES, SIR. I'M SORRY.

>> REGARDING THE TIME FRAME, THE SIX MONTHS OR WHATEVER, I DON'T WANT TO PUT UNDUE PRESSURE ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE INTERVIEWING YOU.

IF THE FOUR MONTHS IS ADEQUATE.

TAKE IT LIKE HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR TWO. THAT'S OKAY.

I DON'T WANT TO PRESSURE THE GROUP, THE PCC.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY.

TWO TO FOUR GREAT.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NAME LOOPY VALDEZ AS THE ACTING CHIEF OF THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT WE SET A TIME FOR THERE TO BE A MEETING, I GUESS IN THE FUTURE.

I'M LOOKING AT PERHAPS SEPTEMBER OF 2021.

IT'S ABOUT FOUR MORE MONTHS.

THE ITEM TO BE PLACED BACK ON THE AGENDA IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021 IF IT'S NOT ADDRESSED BEFORE THAT TIME.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO-TEM, WRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YOU WERE GOING TO THE MICROPHONE.

OKAY. GO AHEAD, CHRIS.

>> WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE PCC?

>> WILL DO THAT.

>> NEXT MOTION.

>> OKAY. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED [INAUDIBLE].

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PCC GROUP.

YOU HAVE A LIST OF NAMES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED ALREADY? CORRECT?

>> IT IS CORRECT.

>> I THINK THERE WERE LISTED ON OUR [INAUDIBLE]. YES

>> YES THEY WERE.

>> I'M LOOKING FOR ADDS OR IF YOU DISAGREE OR TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

>> I'M FINE WITH THE FIVE OR SIX, I'M GOOD WITH THOSE.

>> THERE'S ONLY THREE RESIDENTS, AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR STAFF.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING MORE RESIDENT INPUT ON THIS.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AMY ALVARADO AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD PASTOR MICHAEL GABLE FROM THE FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.

>> WHICH CHURCH?

>> PRESBYTERIAN.

>> OKAY. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EACH ONE OF THEM? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE ARE.

>> OKAY, CHRIS SAY WHO THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE AS WELL.

IF I CAN DO THAT. JOHN DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST, AND DO YOUR TWO.

>> THE TWO, AMY SERVES IN JUDGE DAVIS'S COURT, AND COURT CLERK, WENT TO ANGLETON, BEEN HERE ALL HER LIFE.

THEY HAVE ROOTS HERE. SHE'S BEEN INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO THAT'S ONE.

THEN PASTOR MICHAEL GABLE IS THE PRESBYTERIAN PASTOR, AND HE'S VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY HE AND FATHER TRAVIS HERE OF THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH.

THEY'VE REALLY BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON A LOT OF THINGS OVER HERE AND HE'S EXPRESSED INTEREST IN BEING INVOLVED IN HELPING OUT IF HE'S NEEDED, AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR HIM TO.

>> GOT YOU. THANK YOU.

>> CHRISTINA. I KNOW WHO THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE.

>> RUDY SANTOS COMMISSIONER IN THE PORT OF FREEPORT FOR 22 YEARS, LONG-TIME ANGLETON RESIDENT.

BETH REIMSCHISSEL ADMINISTRATOR OF THE HOSPITAL,

[01:30:06]

THEN PASTOR ALONZO BROWN FROM BIBLE WAY OUTREACH CHURCH, HERE IN ANGLETON.

REMEMBER THE MINISTRY OF ALLIANCE.

>> THEN MS. HAYES, MR. CROUCH.

>> ANGELIA HAYES FROM THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR, STEWART CROUCH FROM PARKS AND REC, COLIN THE HR DIRECTOR, AND MYSELF.

>> JUST OUT OF FULL DISCLOSURE LOOPY, DO YOU KNOW ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS JUST FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, DO YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS? EVEN THE TWO THAT MR. JOHN WRIGHT HAS DISCUSSED.

>> I DO NOT KNOW THAT AMY PERSON. I KNOW ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A GOOD LIST. DO I HEAR A MOTION?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT THE PCC WITH ADDITIONS OF AMY ALVARADO, AND PASTOR MICHAEL GABLE, IN ADDITION TO RUDY SANTOS, PASTOR ALONZO BROWN, BETH REIMSCHISSEL, AND ANGELIA HAYES, STEWART CROUCH, COLIN MARTIN, AND CHRIS WHITAKER.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> GET SOME WATER FOR FOLKS Y'ALL.

>> YES SIR. YEAH.

>> I WANT TO TIE THE TWO THINGS TOGETHER.

>> GO AHEAD, SIR.

>> I RESPECT WHAT MR. BOOTH IS ADDRESSING EARLIER ABOUT TRYING NOT TO PUT A TIME LIMIT IF YOU WILL.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THESE MEETINGS MOVE AS REASONABLY PRUDENT AS POSSIBLE.

BE WISE, BUT JUDICIOUS, AND SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BECAUSE AS I STATED EARLIER IN MY PREVIOUS MOTION THAT IS TO BE DECIDED MAYBE BY SEPTEMBER, BUT IF IT COULD BE ADDRESSED EARLIER THEN THAT POSSIBILITY, CAN BE PUT IN PLAY AS WELL.

>> THAT SOUNDS GOOD? YES, SIR.

>> AGREED.

>> THAT MOTION IS SECOND.

ANYMORE DISCUSSION? IF NOT I WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED [INAUDIBLE].

THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD WORK LOOPY.

>> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE.

>> YES, SIR. MOVING RIGHT ALONG WE'RE GOING TO BOUNCE BACK UP TO NUMBER 11,

[13. Discussion and possible action on the Miller and Parrish Street Improvements Project.]

>> THANKS, OFFICERS.

>> THANKS MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, JOHN.

>> COUNCIL, STAFF HAS REQUESTED.

ACTUALLY, THERE'S TWO MAINTENANCE PROJECTS OCCURRING IN THE SAME AREA.

WE'VE COMBINED THEM TOGETHER IN ONE COST, IN ONE PROJECT TO GET SOME ECONOMY AND SCALE INTO THIS THING.

AS WITH ANY PROJECT, YOU STILL HAVE TO START.

YOU STILL HAVE TO GO OUT AND UTILITIES.

YOU STILL HAVE TO DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS.

THERE'S AN AMOUNT OF COST THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH EVERY PROJECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS RIGHT THERE AT PARISH AND MILLER STREET.

THE TURN RADIUS', CITY HAS RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS ABOUT HOW THEY'RE TOO SHORT.

PEOPLE ARE POTENTIALLY RUNNING OFF ON THEM.

STAFF HAS REQUESTED THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT POTENTIALLY EXTENDING THOSE CULVERTS OUT, ACTUALLY WIDENING THE RADIUS OF THAT STREET, PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK TO CONTINUE DOWN TO THE BUS STATION STOP RIGHT THERE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET IN THERE.

WE WILL REPLACE THE INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE, THE PIPE UNDERNEATH IT, RE-GRADE SOME DITCHES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET PLENTY OF POSITIVE DRAINAGE THERE IN THAT AREA.

THE OTHER SECTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PARISH FROM TJ RIGHT TO JUST EAST TO PARISH, IT'S ABOUT 750 FEET. IT IS AN OPEN DITCH.

I BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CONSTRUCTION OR SOME DEVELOPMENT THERE IN THAT AREA.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A PRELUDE TO THEM TO COME IN AND PUT IN THE SIDEWALKS ONCE THIS IS DONE.

I'VE PROVIDED A PROPOSAL AND ALSO PROVIDED A [INAUDIBLE] ESTIMATE WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE COSTS ARE COMING FROM, THEN ALSO PROVIDED A COST ESTIMATE FOR THIS PROJECT.

I TOLD CHRIS EARLIER TODAY OR BEFORE THIS MEETING, I WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY ELSE KNOW, WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME LETTERS ON OTHER PROJECTS FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES AS FORCE MAJEURE IS NOW COMING IN EFFECT.

PRICES FOR CONSTRUCTION AND FIXING, AND GOING THROUGH THE ROOF AND THIS ONE PARTICULAR WHEN WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT, EVERYTHING'S SIGNED.

YOU CAN'T BUY MATERIAL FROM THE SUPPLIER THAT GRANTED IT TO HIM.

THEY'RE CALLING FORCE MAJEURE AS PVC PIPES [INAUDIBLE] FIXING THAT IN THE SAME WAY.

JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY A HEADS UP.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS CONSTRUCTION COSTS,

[01:35:01]

JUST BREAKING NEWS ON THAT.

>> THIS PROJECT ADDRESSES A COUPLE OF THINGS.

IT ADDRESSES THE HAZARDS OF REALLY A T-INTERSECTION WHERE IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN LEFT, RIGHT, OR OTHERWISE.

IT ADDS A SIDEWALK DOWN PARISH.

AGAIN, FILLING IN THAT CULVERT REDUCES THE SAFETY ISSUE THAT'S THERE, ADDING THE SIDEWALK STARTS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION.

WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND SO THAT STARTS THAT ON THAT STREET.

[NOISE]

>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR JOHN OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> YEAH. I ASKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO BECAUSE I REALLY SEE A NEED TO ADDRESS AN AREA OF THE CITY THAT CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, AND FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.

IT'S DANGEROUS, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE CITIZENS OVER THERE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.

PARISH IS GETTING TORN UP AND WE HAVE TJ RIGHT OVER THERE.

IT'S CONCRETE STREET, CURB AND GUTTER.

IT'S A NICE STREET AND IT'S REALLY HELD UP WELL, BUT WE SEE SOME ACTIVITY GOING ON MILLER STREET.

I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY CARRY IT DOWN MILLER AND ON THE PARISH AND FIX SOMETHING THAT THE CHURCH HAS ACTUALLY ASKED FOR IT OVER THERE.

MANY TIMES ON NATIONAL NIGHT-OUTS AND WE GO OVER THERE, THEY'RE ALWAYS ASKING WHEN CAN WE GET A SIDEWALK OVER HERE FOR OUR CITIZENS? I FEEL LIKE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT IS BECOMING A HIGH PRIORITY.

JOHN, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU.

CHRIS ORIGINALLY SHARED YOUR PROPOSAL AND I BALKED AT IT AND I THOUGHT IT'S HIGH FOR JUST ENGINEERING SERVICES.

ONE SAYS IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I LOOKED AT THE OTHER DAY.

WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO WHEN YOU ARE OVERSEEING THE CONSTRUCTION?

>> CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION.

>> YES.

>> OKAY. CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION.

[OVERLAPPING] YES, SIR.

IT'S THE LAST SPREADSHEET WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] ESTIMATE, BUT IT HAS THE TASK BROKE DOWN ON IT.

IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S GOING TO BE PREPARED WITH THE AGENDA AND HOLD A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING, MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTORS, INTRODUCING THE INSPECTORS FOR THE CITY TOME.

IT'S TAKING ALL THE SUBMITTALS AND LOGGING SUBMITTALS, APPROVING SUBMITTALS, SENDING THEM BACK.

IT'S GOING TO BE ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE ON THE DESIGN.

AGAIN, THIS IS FILAMENTOUS, COLDER.

I'M HOPING IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT MUCH.

BUT THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE WITH THIS ONE.

WHEN IT GETS TOO DEEP IN THE WEEDS, IT'S VERY SHALLOW.

THE DITCH IS VERY SHALLOW, THE GROUND IS VERY SHALLOW OUT THERE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE FILL THOSE DITCHES IN.

WE'RE NOT STARTING AT THE BOTTOM IN, WE'RE STARTING CLOSER UP TO THE TOP.

CHANGE ORDERS, PAY ESTIMATES WHEN YOU COME IN.

WE ALSO WORK WITH THE CITY.

WE GO AND RECOMMEND PAYMENT, DOCUMENT THAT.

WE ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FINAL WALK-THROUGH AND PUNCH THESE ITEMS. WE'LL CREATE THAT, GO BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR.

ONCE HE'S COMPLETED, WE VERIFY THAT WITH CITY STAFF.

WE DO THE AS WE BUILD DRAWINGS AND THEN WE DO THE CLOSE OUT PACKAGE FOR THE CITY TO WHERE ALL YOU DO IS JUST COPY THE LETTER THAT WE HAVE AND CLOSE THE PROJECT DOUBT.

YOU HAVE ALL OF THE CHANGE ORDERS WITH THE PROJECT ZEROED OUT.

YOU HAVE THE MAINTENANCE BONDS.

YOU HAVE ALL THE RELEASE FROM THE CONTRACTORS ON PAYMENT OF OTHER CONTRACT OF THEIR SUBS.

THERE IS STUFF THAT GOES ON.

AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT GOES ON, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE AS PART OF EVERY PROJECT.

YOU CAN SEE THE MAN HOURS, THERE'S NOT VERY MANY HOURS.

>> WELL, I WAS GOING TO DISAGREE ON THAT [LAUGHTER] ONE.

SIXTEEN HOURS TO DO A SITE VISIT.

WE'RE NOT TALKING A BIG LOCATION.

THAT WAS ONE THING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME.

SIXTEEN HOURS, I KNOW IT'S EIGHT AND EIGHT.

BUT TWO PEOPLE, EIGHT HOURS TO DO A SITE VISIT TO COLLECT FIELD DATA ON US SHORT LITTLE AREA LIKE THAT?

>> IT'S TO DO THE PUNCH LIST WITH THE CONTRACTOR, TO MAKE THE PUNCH LIST UP, TO WRITE THE PUNCH LIST AND SUBMIT IT BACK INTO CHECK AND VERIFY THAT PUNCH LIST IS DONE.

>> THIS IS IN THE DESIGN PHASE.

>> THAT'S IN THE DESIGN PHASE.

[01:40:01]

>> YES.

>> OKAY. YOU'RE LOOKING IN THE DESIGN PHASE? OKAY.

DESIGN PHASE.

WE HAVE SITE VISIT TO COLLECT FIELD DATA.

YES. WHAT WE DO IS WE ACTUALLY WALK WITH THE SURVEY, THE BACKGROUND SURVEY, AND ACTUALLY CHECK EVERY SPOT.

TYPICALLY ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'LL TAKE US ABOUT HALF A DAY.

YOU GOT AN HOUR RIDE HERE, AN HOUR RIDE BACK WITH THE GUYS FROM THE CITY, AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT.

[LAUGHTER].

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> I AGREE THAT THE INTERSECTION THERE NEEDS TO BE RAISED, THE TURNING RADIUS' ARE TOO SMALL.

I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES RECENTLY.

PEOPLE HAD BEEN TURNING OFF OF [INAUDIBLE] PARISH STREET, IT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

REGARDING THE SIDEWALK, THERE'S A SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF TJ RIGHT THAT COMES UP TO MILLER STREET.

THE NORTH SIDE OF MILLER STREET IS TOTALLY UNDEVELOPED THROUGH THIS REACH. THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE.

WHEREAS ON THE SOUTH-SIDE OF MILLER STREET THERE'S A BRAND NEW WHOLE INTERSECTION THERE.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS ALONG, ONE OR TWO OTHER THINGS ALONG THE WAY.

THERE MUST BE A LONG CULVERT UNDERGROUND THERE BECAUSE I SEE THIS VERY MINIMAL OPEN DITCH ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THERE'S ONE TREE THAT'S SET BACK OFF SOUTH OF MILLER STREET OF WAYS, THERE ARE NO TREES TO CONTEND WITH.

WHEREAS ON THE NORTH SIDE, THERE'S ONE HUGE [INAUDIBLE] TREE RIGHT DOWN AT THE INTERSECTION OF A PARISH STREET.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THE TREES ALONG THE WAY.

YOUR CONSTRUCTION ADAMS NOTE, DEALING WITH TREES AND PUTTING IN SOME TREE ROOT BARRIERS OR WHATEVER'S GOING ON, PUTTING IN A 24-INCH PIPE IN A LITTLE DINKY DITCH LIKE THAT, I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT.

THE PIPE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S UNDERGROUND HAS PROBABLY NEVER BEEN CLEANED OUT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL IT FUNCTIONS.

THEN AGAIN, YOU'RE ON THE HIGH END OF THE WATERSHED.

YOU FIND WATERSHED BREAK THERE AT MILLER STREET, SO WHATEVER HITS FOR MILLER IS THE BEGINNING OF THE WATER THAT GOES SOUTH.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WATER WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH.

THOSE SIDEWALK OFF THE END TJ RIGHT, WHERE IT TERMINATES AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF MILLER, GO DOWN MILLER STREET AND IT TURNS OUT ON PARISH STREET.

IF YOU BUILD IT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MILLER, YOU'VE GOT TO CROSSOVER MILLER TO GET TO THE SIDE WALK GO DOWN SIDEWALKS [NOISE] AND THEN CROSS BACK OVER TO MILLER STREET TO GET ON A SIDEWALK AND GO INTO THE BUS STOP.

I GUESS PEOPLE TWO MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO DENT SOMEBODY'S FINGER.

OKAY. WHAT ELSE HAVE I GOT GOING ON THERE? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO BUILD A SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MILLER

>> I AGREE. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TOO.

>> I DON'T KNOW THE WORD, BUT TO GO OUT THERE AND FILL IN A DITCH AND PUT A SIDEWALK ALONG A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WILL PROBABLY GET DEVELOPED.

>> IT'S ALREADY COME TO US BEFORE, WE GAVE THE CLEARANCE.

>> THIS IS WHERE WE [OVERLAPPING] ON THE SIDEWALK.

>> WHAT DOES THE [INAUDIBLE] GOING TO LOOK AT WHEN THEY SEE US PUT IN A DITCH, FILL IN A DITCH WITH A PIPE, PUT A SIDEWALK IN AND SAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD A SIDE WALK.

THIS MIGHT LOOK SUSPICIOUS.

>> I AGREE. WHEN WE GAVE THE VARIANCE TO THE OWNER ON THE NORTH SIDE, WE SAID THE IDEA WAS TO PUT THE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MILLER AND BRING IT DOWN TO PARRISH.

THAT WAS SOMETHING WE ALL TALKED ABOUT.

I WOULD HOPE THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE PLAN.

>> THAT'S NOT.

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IN THE PLAN?

>> WELL, RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL TO GET US TO GET IT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> THIS ISN'T ANY DESIGN YET.

WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE AND DESIGN.

BUT IT IS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I BELIEVE I RECEIVED AN EMAIL, THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOME DEVELOPMENT COMING THERE ON

[01:45:02]

>> YEAH. IT'S ALREADY COME TO US BEFORE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THIS IS IN LIEU OF THAT IS TO FILL THAT DITCH AND SO SIDEWALK CAN BE PLACED THERE.

LINDSAY, AM I CORRECT IN THAT? IS WALTER HERE? I SAW HIM EARLIER. [BACKGROUND]

>> YEAH. I BELIEVE THE MILLER STREET DEVELOPMENT WAS A PROPOSED THREE LOTS AREA WHERE THERE WAS NOT ADEQUATE ROOM FOR SIDEWALKS ON THAT NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET.

THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WAS TO THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO LOOK AT INSTALLING A CULVERT SO THERE COULD BE SPACE FOR SIDEWALKS, AND THERE WAS A DRAINAGE ISSUE, I BELIEVE IS WHAT YOU HAD SAID, MR. WRIGHT.

>> THERE WAS A DRAINAGE ISSUE AT PARRISH AND MILLER.

>> OKAY.

>> YEAH. NOW, I DON'T THINK I EVER SAID THAT THE CITY WOULD FILL IN THE DITCH TO DO IT.

THEY WANTED THE SIDEWALK VARIANCE BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT TO FILL THAT IN AND THERE'S SETBACK AND THERE WAS A TELEPHONE POLE AND EASEMENT [OVERLAPPING] ISSUE.

I REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT IT SAYING, "WHY DON'T WE PUT IT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MILLER WHERE THERE'S ALREADY A SIDEWALK FROM TJ WRIGHT COMING UP," AS COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, AND WE HAD ALL THAT GREEN SPACE AND WE ALREADY HAD A CULVERT THAT WAS ALREADY THERE ON THAT SIDE, JUST FINISHED FILLING IN THAT SIDE.

[OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF SPOTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MILLER THAT ARE OPEN GOING DOWN FROM TJ WRIGHT.

BUT I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BOOTH TOO THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PIPE THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ADEQUATE ENOUGH TO HANDLE IT.

>> WHAT'S THE PURPOSE HERE? WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION, GIVE FEEDBACK.

>> SAFETY.

>> WE INTEND TO PROCEED FORWARD, YES?

>> IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WE'RE GETTING INTO A LOT OF PARTICULARS RIGHT NOW.

IS THAT THE INTENTION OF THIS RIGHT NOW? [OVERLAPPING]

>> NO, [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW IS JUST TO APPROVE THE HDR.

THIS PART, YES. WE'RE GETTING DEEPER INTO THE WOODS.

>> I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS MORE OF A DISCUSSION ON DO WE WANT TO AWARD THIS AND PROCEED FORWARD?

>> I GUESS THAT'S TRUE, BUT WE'D WANT TO GIVE HIM SOME GUIDELINES AS TO WHAT HE'S GOING TO DESIRE.

>> NO DOUBT I'M DEFERRING TO YOU AND JOHN ON THIS, ESPECIALLY YOU MR. BOOTH IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR EXPERTISE OF YOUR PROFESSION.

I'M LISTENING INTENTLY, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE STAY WHERE WE'RE GOING ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. THAT'S ALL.

>> I THINK TO CLEAR IT UP, THE DISCUSSION IS OF COURSE GIVING HIM SOME DIRECTION BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE IS AND WHAT HE'S SENT US AS THE PROPOSAL.

IF HE GOES, DOES ONE DRAWING AND THEN COMES BACK TO US SO THAT WE GO BACK, NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADD MORE HOURS.

WE'RE TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THAT COMPOUND.

>> I'M ALL FOR THE IDEA OF THE ECHOING A LOT OF WHAT MR. BOOTH AND WHAT JOHN HAVE ALREADY STATED.

>> AGAIN, WE CAN PUT IT ON EITHER SIDE.

WE HADN'T EVEN SURVEYED THE AREA.

WE'RE SURVEYING THE WHOLE AREA.

THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS I CAN HAVE ONCE WE GET THE SURVEY AND START LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AND JUST WORK WITH STAFF AND GET AN UPDATE FROM THE CITY IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL WANT.

>> I KNOW JOHN, HE'S LOOKING AT ALL THE PAGES.

HE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HDR IS NOT GOING TO STEER US WRONG AND THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US FAIR PROPOSAL HERE. I APPRECIATE YOU, JOHN.

>> IN JOHN'S DEFENSE AND IN HDR'S TEAM, PRICE OF RAW MATERIALS ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.

WHEN WE DO PULL THE TRIGGER TO GO TO WORK ON THIS, IT'S GOING TO WORK NOW BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO GO BACK AND WANT TO GRAB AS MANY OF THE RAW MATERIALS AS HE POSSIBLY CAN, SO WE PAY HIM FOR MATERIALS ON-SITE OR ON HAND TO GET THE JOB DONE.

THOSE LETTERS ARE COMING EVERY DAY FROM [INAUDIBLE] STEEL, EVERYTHING.

IT'S CRAZY RIGHT NOW.

>> DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION SERVICES TONIGHT, AND JUST APPROVE THE DESIGN PHASE AND THE BID PHASE, AND THEN IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN WE WOULD APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION SERVICES?

>> ABSOLUTELY. THOSE ARE ALL INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.

IT HAS NO EFFECT IF WE DO THE DESIGN AND BID,

[01:50:05]

>> THOUGHTS, CHRIS?

>> I THINK YOU SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS INTERSECTION FOR A WHILE.

IT'S IN AN AREA THAT REALLY NEEDS IT.

WE'RE DOING OUR PART AS FAR AS TALKING ABOUT AND ACTIONING SIDEWALKS AS A START, AND IF WE GET DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE AND GET SIDEWALKS THERE.

I THINK WE'RE SHOWING OUR PART, AND THEN WE JUST NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH PARRISH, AND ACTION THE SIDEWALK DOWN THAT WAY.

>> I ECHO BEING A COUNCIL OF ACTION.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS AN AREA OF NEED, AND THIS IS AN AREA WITHIN THE CITY OF NEED.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, I BELIEVE WE'RE EQUITABLE IN ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY, AND THERE'S MANY, BUT THIS AREA OF TOWN NEEDS ATTENTION AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE PEOPLE KNOW THEIR CONCERNS ARE HEARD WITH US AND THAT WE WOULD GO FORWARD IN ADDRESSING SOME OF THEIR NEEDS AS WELL.

>> I SENT CHRIS AN EMAIL.

AFTER THEY FINISHED PIPING MILLER STREET, THEN THE SANITARY SEWER HADN'T LOOKED THAT GOOD SINCE THEY BUILT THE STREET WHENEVER THAT WAS.

IT'S STARTING TO LOOK MUCH BETTER OVER THERE.

>> CHRIS, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS WHAT IS YOUR OPINION OF AWARDING JUST THE DESIGN PHASE PIECE, OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND CONTRACT OURSELVES TO THE BID PHASE AND THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION?

>> I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST DO THE DESIGN AND MAKE SURE IT'S WHAT WE WANT AND READY TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THAT LATER.

>> BECAUSE HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO TAKE YOU TO COME BACK TO US ON A DESIGN?

>> THE SURVEY'S GOING TO BE THE LONGEST THINGS GETTING OUT THERE SURVEYING AND THEN THE HOURS THAT YOU SAW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WALK IT, POP EVERYTHING, LOOK AT EVERYTHING, AND COORDINATE WITH UTILITIES, UTILITY COORDINATION.

THE ACTUAL DESIGN, WE CAN KNOCK THIS THING OUT IN PROBABLY THREE MONTHS.

>> THAT PUTS US IN A BUDGET.

>> WHAT I WOULD HATE TO SEE IS DELAY.

JUST BECAUSE IF WE DO DELAY, I DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT BOAT IN CASE.

NOW WE'RE WAITING ON US FOR A MEETING, WHAT IF THE QUORUM DOESN'T HAPPEN, NOW WE'RE TWO WEEKS OUT, AND THEN WE'RE SCRAMBLING NOW.

OBVIOUSLY THE MONEY WON'T BE SPENT UNTIL WAY DOWN THE ROAD.

>> WE'LL HAVE TO APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION ANYWAY.

>> YEAH.

>> WE CAN APPROVE THEM AT THE SAME TIME FOR THAT.

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WHEN YOU APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE BID STUFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION.

>> WELL, LET'S LET THEM DO THROUGH THE BID PHASE.

>> THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT COUNCILS DO.

>> WE CAN AWARD A CONTRACT AND THEN IF FOR SOME REASON YOU WANT TO INSPECT IT IN-HOUSE, WELL THEN YOU DO, BUT GO AHEAD AND BE READY TO AWARD A CONTRACT.

>> MR. BOOTH, WILL THAT BE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION?

>> I MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.

DO I HAVE TO SAY ALL THAT AGAIN?

>> NO. I'LL SECOND IT. [LAUGHTER]

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GUYS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN. NUMBER 15, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON GATEWAY MASTER PLAN. MISS MEGAN, IT'S YOURS?

[15. Discussion and possible action on Gateway Master Plan.]

>> YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

STAFF HAD VISITED WITH YOU ALL ON APRIL 13TH REGARDING AN UPDATE FOR RE-INITIATING THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN THAT WE INITIALLY STARTED WITH KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL IN 2019.

LIKE WE HAD MENTIONED, WE HAD A SCHEDULED MEETING ON APRIL 27TH WITH KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL AND CLARK CONDON, WHERE THEY PRESENTED SEVEN CONCEPTS FOR THE GATEWAY SIGNAGE FAMILY, IF YOU WILL.

YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKET, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE INITIAL CONCEPTS ARE.

AT THAT APRIL 27TH MEETING, WE SOLICITED FEEDBACK FROM KB SO THAT WE COULD GEAR WHAT THAT SIGNAGE FAMILY NEEDED TO LOOK LIKE BEFORE WE MOVED INTO TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND THEN ALSO BRING IT TO YOU ALL FOR FEEDBACK.

WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET IS JUST A RECAP OF ALL OF THE MEETING NOTES FOR THE APRIL 27TH MEETING, THE PRESENTATION THAT CLARK CONDON HAD, AND THEN ALSO THE INTERACTIVE PORTION WHERE MEMBERS BASICALLY PUT LITTLE STICKY NOTES ON THE DESIGNS THAT THEY PREFERRED AND THEN COMMENTED ON.

WE JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR ADDITIONAL INPUT AND FEEDBACK BEFORE WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN.

[01:55:04]

>> I JUST WANT TO ALSO SAY I WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED. IT'S FRESH.

I WAS IMPRESSED BY SOME OF THE DESIGNS THAT CAME WITH ALL OF THEM, BUT THAT WAS PRETTY AWESOME DESIGN WORK THAT WILL REALLY STAMP ANGLETON AND PUT US ON THE MAP.

I DO LOVE DRIVING IN TEXAS AND I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF THIS, BUT SOMETHING WITH A SPLASH OF THAT BIG PURPLE AND MAYBE THOSE COLUMNS OR PILLARS WOULD BE VERY EYE-OPENING AND CATCHING, AND MAYBE THAT COULD CAUSE THEM TO COME OFF THE FREEWAY AND GO, I WANT TO GO LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.

JUST MY TWO CENTS THAT. GUYS, YOU KNOW ME.

I JUST LIKE THAT FLASH AND THAT WOW FACTOR.

I WAS TRULY IMPRESSED WITH SOME OF THE DESIGN WORK.

>> ON THAT NOTE, SOME OF THE GENERAL NOTES THAT THE GROUP HAD JUST REGARDING SOME OF THE DESIGNS IN TOTAL WERE TO INCORPORATE OPTIONS UTILIZING MORE MATERIALS AND COLORS THAT WE WILL PLAN ON STANDARDIZING THROUGHOUT OUR CITY FACILITIES INCLUDING LAKESIDE.

THEY HAD SOME MASONRY RENDERINGS, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST DOING A HODGEPODGE OF STUFF ALL OVER OUR CITY FACILITIES.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY GOING THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.

THOSE WERE SOME OF THE NOTES.

SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE THE STONE FURNITURE MATERIALS THAT WE'LL BE USING IN LAKESIDE, TRYING TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON SOME ADDITIONAL RENDERINGS, MIX AND MATCH THE MATERIALS AND COLORS TO SET THE THEME FOR ANGLETON.

THEY ALSO NOTED VERSION 1-4, EIGHT RECEIVED NO VOTES FROM THE GROUP.

THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE RECAP.

THE LATTER ONES WERE THE ONES THAT WERE CONSIDERED.

THERE WAS TOO MUCH METAL IN THE INITIAL VERSIONS FOR A LOT OF THE MEMBERS ON KAB.

THEY SEEMED MORE [INAUDIBLE] WERE THE NOTES THAT WERE MENTIONED.

THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT WE HAD FROM THE GROUP, WERE TO LOOK AT USING OTHER CITIES OF COMPARABLE SIZE TO ANGLETON FOR EXAMPLE.

WITHIN THAT PRESENTATION YOU SEE, PEARLAND, BUT THAT IS ONLY BECAUSE PEARLAND HAS ADOPTED A SIGNAGE FAMILY AND THEY ACTUALLY ARE CONSTRUCTING THESE ITEMS. THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE AREA, IOWA COLONIES LOOKING [NOISE] AT ADOPTING A GATEWAY PLAN.

WE ALSO HAVE LA MARQUE THAT'S LOOKING AT DOING THE SAME THING, AND THEN TEXAS CITY, WE CONTENT HAD WORKED WITH THEM AS WELL.

PURPLE SHOULD BE UTILIZED ON THE SIGNAGE FOR OPTIONS.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THAT COULD BE DONE.

SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU SEE, YOU SEE THE ACTUAL COLOR PURPLE.

SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED IS USING LIGHTING EFFECTS TO HAVE THAT COLOR POP.

THEN LOOKING AT BACKLIT LETTERS, UTILIZING PURPLE AS THE COLOR LIKE I JUST MENTIONED, AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE NAME ON A SIGN AS WELL AS OTHER OPTIONS WITHOUT THE NAME.

FOR INSTANCE, SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE WERE, "EVERYONE IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HEART.

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE THE NAME ANGLETON." YOU SEE THAT IN SOME OF THE DESIGNS.

WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH USING SOME OF THESE NEW MATERIALS AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GAVE, BUT THEY DO ALSO WANT ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT YOU ALL HAVE THAT WE CAN ADD TO THAT NEXT SET OF PLANS.

THAT WAS REALLY JUST TO ENERGIZE THE GROUP AND GET THEM TALKING AND DISCUSSING.

>> NOTICE THE TXDOT WENT THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] BRIDGES.

THEY ARE STILL DOING THAT BUT THE COLOR, WHETHER IT'S THE TYPE OF PAINT THEY USE OR WHETHER JUST THE TIME GOES BY, I DON'T REALIZE IT, IT FADES OUT.

>> [OVERLAPPING]. SEEMS TO FADE, RIGHT.

>> WHEN YOU HAVE THINGS THAT ARE OUT IN THE SUNLIGHT, THE COLOR TENDS TO GO AWAY, AND IF YOU'RE NOT KEEN TO IT, IT GETS TRASHY-LOOKING.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THAT ACTUALLY WAS MADE WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING PURPLE ON THE ACTUAL SIGN ITSELF, WE MAY LOOK AT FADING.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE BACKLIT COLOR BEING INCORPORATED AS PURPLE WITH LED LIGHTS OR WHATEVER IT IS, MAY BE A BETTER ALTERNATIVE FOR US WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SIGNS.

>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE HEART, SILVER IN NATURE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE SAME EFFECT AS A BRANDING.

I MEAN, IT'S THE GOLDEN ARCHES, WE HAVE THE SILVER HEART.

[LAUGHTER].

BUT IT'S THE SAME IDEA.

>> WE'RE OUR THERE.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEE THE WORDS MCDONALD'S TO KNOW THAT THE GOLDEN ARCHES MEANS MCDONALD'S.

IT CAN BECOME SYNONYMOUS THAT WE SEE THE SILVER HEART.

LET'S SAY WE CAN'T HAVE SOME PURPLE POP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOME ENHANCEMENT TO SECONDARY COLOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT

[02:00:05]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE VERSIONS OR WHAT COLOR YOU'RE THINKING OF, YOU'LL FAR EXCEED MY IMAGINATION BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I LIKE THAT IDEA.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EVERY SIGN, ANGLETON.

WE HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SUBTLE, OKAY, THIS IS ANGLETON.

>> I LOVE THAT, YEAH, NOT SAYING ANGLETON IN THAT WAY.

[NOISE] JUST THE HEART, I LIKE THAT.

>> WE'RE UNIQUE. [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S COOL.

>> [OVERLAPPING] WE DO HAVE THAT DISTINCTIVE A THAT WE HAVE INCORPORATED AS WELL, THAT I THINK WAS PART OF THE BRANDING THAT WAS QUITE THE ISSUE HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

BUT THAT A IS DISTINCTIVE, AND I THINK IT COULD BE APPLIED AS WELL, THE A IN THE HEART HAND IN HAND.

ONE'S A PRIMARY AND SECONDARY.

I KNOW SPORT TEAMS DO THAT TOO.

IT'S VERY POPULAR TO HAVE A PRIMARY LOGO, BUT ALSO A SECONDARY LOGO.

MAYBE WE COULD INCORPORATE A SILVER HEART AS A PRIMARY, BUT YOU HAVE THE ANGLETON A WITH THE LITTLE SILVER HEART AT THE END ON THE LEG, IF YOU WILL, OR WHATEVER IT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THAT.

>> SUSAN, YOU SAID THAT WE DESIGN THE LAPEL PINS WITH THE NEW BRANDING AND ALL THAT.

WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE SELECTIONS THAT WE HAD DESIGNED.

THERE WAS ACTUALLY A TIE BETWEEN TWO PINS AND THEY WERE BOTH SIMILAR DESIGN.

ONE WAS PURPLE OR THE ANGLETON PURPLE, AND THEN THE OTHER WAS SILVER.

BOTH WERE POPULAR. WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT ALTERNATE BRAND ALSO THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PURPLE, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A MORE CLASSIC SILVER.

WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE BRAND AT ALL.

>> I LIKE THE SILVER, OBVIOUSLY.

IT'S ONE OF THE PRECIOUS METALS AND THAT IDEA.

PURPLE ALSO WHILE IT'S DISTINCTLY ANGLETON, IT'S NOT THE MOST COMMON COLOR.

IT'S NOT RED OR BLUE OR NAVY.

THAT SEEMS TO PREDOMINATE.

COLORS GO THROUGH FADS LIKE LIGHT BLUES, AND PASTELS, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

PURPLES, IT'S NOT A FAD.

IT'S STILL TWO COLORS.

>> IT MEANS ROYAL.

>> ROYAL PURPLE, BUT IT'S PRETTY.

ANYWAY, THAT'S MY FEEDBACK.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR MS. MEGAN OR ON THIS TOPIC? YOU'RE GOOD? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE YOU GUYS AND GET ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE.

I HAVE SEVERAL NOTES HERE THAT I'LL MAKE SURE [INAUDIBLE] RECEIVES FOR THE NEXT SET OF DESIGNS.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

I GOT FEEDBACK TOO, AND I THINK WE GOT IT THAT NIGHT ON FACEBOOK SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE PEARLAND.

BUT WHAT CAME OUT IN THAT DISCUSSION WAS A LOT OF OTHER TOWNS ARE DOING THE SAME THING.

IT'S NOT JUST PEARLAND.

AGAIN, WE'RE JUST CREATING THAT IDENTITY.

I HEARD FROM MY NEIGHBOR WHO SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE PEARLAND.

THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND THE COMPARISON.

I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. AGAIN, OTHER CITIES HAVE THEIR OWN, LIKE JACKSON, THEIR OWN MONUMENTATION.

>> BUT THIS LOOKS LIKE THE ONES IN PEARLAND?

>> RIGHT.

>> NOT THE ONE WITH JUST THE HEART.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT LOOKS NECESSARILY LIKE PEARLAND.

WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AT THE KAB MEETING BECAUSE WE DID RECEIVE SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK, THE REASON THAT PEARLAND WAS IN THE PRESENTATION IS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.

THEY DID ADOPT THAT ACTUAL SIGN FAMILY AND HAVE THESE INSTALLED IN PEARLAND.

THAT'S WHY THAT WAS USED.

BUT JUST LIKE CHRIS SAID, THERE'S DEFINITELY PLENTY OF CITIES AROUND SURROUNDING US, AND WE WILL BE UTILIZING OUR OWN BRAND, AND CREATING OUR OWN IDENTITY WITH THESE GATEWAYS.

>> IT'S GOT TO BE UNIQUELY ANGLETON.

IT CAN'T BE JUST A RIP OFF OF SOME OTHER CITY.

>> RIGHT.

>> WE DO HAVE OUR NEW LOGO AND WE PROBABLY GOT TO STAY SOMEWHERE IN THAT FONT CYCLE AND THEN I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK THIS IS WHAT THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT THOUGH, IS WE DON'T HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT BRANDING STYLES AND DIFFERENT PURPLES AND SILVERS AND HEARTS AND ALL THIS DIFFERENT STUFF THAT IS ADDRESSED.

[02:05:01]

>> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT.

>> THANK YOU, MS. MEGAN.

MOVING AROUND ALONG NUMBER 16, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON

[16. Discussion and possible action on a lease quote from Enterprise Fleet Management for 4 Police 2021 Chevrolet Tahoes, 1 Animal Control 2021 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Truck, and a Public Works 2021 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 Utility Body Truck.]

>> NORMALLY I'D HAVE WAITED TILL BUDGET TO COME AND ASK FOR MORE ENTERPRISE FLEET VEHICLES.

I THINK WE'RE OFF TO A GOOD START IN FEEDBACK FROM STAFF THAT HAVE THE VEHICLES, OR SEEING THE CURRENT VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE IS GREAT, BUT I'LL SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS AND FOR THE ANIMAL CONTROL VEHICLE.

THEY ARE INOP, SO THEY STOPPED WORKING, AND [INAUDIBLE] IF YOU COULD UPDATE, PUT IN AN UPDATE ON THE OTHER VEHICLES, PLEASE.

>> YEAH. ON OUR PATROL VEHICLES WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE 2014 AND WITH OVER 100,000 MILES ON THEM.

I HAVE HERE ALL THE GRAPHS WE KEPT, I'M THE FLEET MANAGER AS WELL.

WE KEEP EVERYTHING THAT'S FIXED AND WORKED ON, AND SO I HAVE GRAPHS HERE AND MILEAGE ON ALL OF THE VEHICLES OF WHAT WE SPENT.

WE'VE GOT FOUR PATROL CARS THAT ARE IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

ONE OF THEM WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND NO MORE ON IT BECAUSE WE SPENT MORE THAN PROBABLY WHAT THE CAR'S WORTH BUT WE NEED TO GET THOSE VEHICLES OUT OF THE FLEET.

IF YOU WANT THESE, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE THEM TO YOU.

>> IF YOU WANT TO EITHER E-MAIL THEM TO US OR SOMETHING, LET'S HAVE JOE LOOK AT THEM TONIGHT, MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE GOT SOME PATROL CARS? DID WE GET SOME LAST YEAR?

>> NO.

>> NO, SIR.

>> OKAY.

>> YEAR BEFORE LAST.

>> KIND OF WHAT I THOUGHT. OKAY.

>> I'LL SHARE THIS LITTLE TANGENT FULL OF THEM.

BUT ON FRIDAY I WENT TO THE TREE GIVE-AWAY, THE CITY PARTICIPATED, PARKS AND RECREATION.

WE HAD TWO OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION VEHICLES OUT THERE FROM THE ENTERPRISE THAT WE'RE NOW, I GUESS IN OUR LEASING PROCESS AND IT WAS IMPRESSIVE.

LET ME JUST SAY, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GETTING, I KNOW AESTHETICALLY AND FUNCTIONALITY ARE TOP OF THE LINE.

I CAN IMAGINE MUCH NICER VEHICLES, AND THE CHIEF COULD SPEAK TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

>> THESE VEHICLES ARE ON HAND MEANING IF WE PULL THE TRIGGER ON THIS, THEN ENTERPRISE CAN GET THEM, THEY CAN SEND THEM TO US TO GET EQUIPPED, FOR EXAMPLE, THE POLICE VEHICLES CAN GET PUT ON THE ROAD WITHIN A MATTER OF I WOULD GUESS, I DON'T WHAT KNOW THE EQUIPMENT TURNAROUND TIME IS, BUT WITHIN A MONTH OR TWO.

THE PUBLIC WORKS TRUCK AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL WOULD BE THE EASIEST AND PROBABLY THE FASTEST TO GET.

>> THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.

I KNOW THERE'S A HUGE CASH ORDER DRAG-DOWN.

[OVERLAPPING] GO OUT TO OUR LOCAL LOTS, THERE'S LIKE TWO ROWS OF CARS.

THAT'S IT. THEY TOLD YOU THAT THEY HAVE THE FLEET AVAILABLE FOR US TO GET, RIGHT?

>> IF WE WAIT TILL THE NORMAL BUDGET THING, REMEMBER [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUT.

>> WHEN WE PULL THE TRIGGER UNTIL OCTOBER AND THEN YOU'D WAIT ANOTHER YEAR FOR SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR BEFORE THE VEHICLES TO SHOW UP.

>> ALL RIGHT. THEN JOHN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WHAT WAS OUR PLAN YEARS AGO OR ALSO CHIEF CAN FILL IN.

WHAT WAS OUR THINKING PROCESS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS VEHICLE REPLACEMENT? WAS IT EVERY YEAR, GET SOME? EVERY OTHER YEAR, GET SOME?

>> NO, EVERY YEAR.

>> EVERY YEAR. OKAY.

>> EVERY YEAR WE ALWAYS REPLACE THREE UNITS IS WHAT WE'RE, THAT WE WERE DOING REGULARLY.

>> RIGHT.

>> THEN SOMEWHERE, I DON'T KNOW, I GOT OFF COUNCIL IN '13 AND SOMEWHERE IN THERE WE STOPPED DOING IT ALL, JUST THREE UNITS EVERY YEAR.

IT FLUCTUATED, AND THEN LAST YEAR WE SAID NO NEW VEHICLES BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE BUDGET WITH WHAT WE HAD AND FOR THIS CLASS IN COM.

>> GOT YOU. THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S THE HISTORY AROUND IT.

>> OKAY. SO GENTLEMEN [INAUDIBLE] YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE WERE GOING AND THEN WHAT THE CONSTRAINT WAS UP A YEAR AGO, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HEARD FROM CHIEF THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO SOME DIRE STRAITS.

>> WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT MAKING THEM STREET READY.

[02:10:03]

THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF MONEY INVOLVED IN EACH UNIT.

>> RIGHT. WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH ENTERPRISE, THE LEASE PRICES, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE TAHOES INCLUDE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT.

WE'RE FINANCING SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT TO REDUCE THAT, WHATEVER IT IS, $30 OR $40,000 PUNCH FOR EACH OF THE VEHICLES.

TALKING WITH JASON CRUISE, HE'S GOT SOME MONEY IN HIS BUDGET THAT HE CAN, COMPUTERS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

SO WE'RE WORKING THE NUMBERS ON WHAT THE BUDGETARY IMPACT IS.

>> DO WE RE-UTILIZE THE COMPUTERS IN THE CURRENT PATROL VEHICLES? DO THEY JUST GET MOVED OR DO WE TRY TO UPGRADE OR WHAT'S OUR PROCESS FOR THAT?

>> WE USUALLY TRY TO USE THEM.

WE HAVE TRIED TO REUSE THEM IN THE PAST.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY GOING SO FAST, THESE FOUR VEHICLES THAT WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE, THOSE COMPUTERS ARE.

>> TOAST.

>> THEY'RE TOAST AND JASON COULD PROBABLY SPEAK MORE TO THAT.

[OVERLAPPING] BUT JASON AND CHRIS, ON THE LAST VEHICLES WE GOT, BUILT THEIR OWN AND IT SAVED US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FROM BUILDING THEM IN-HOUSE.

>> THE PROBLEM WITH MOVING FROM WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY OVER, IS JUST AGE.

WHAT'S THE OLDEST UNIT WE HAVE ON THE FLEET?

>> 2014.

>> 2014 AND WE DON'T REPLACE THE COMPUTERS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WENT TO THE MODULAR SYSTEM THAT WE DEVELOPED THIS LAST GO AROUND, WAS SO THAT AS THE COMPUTERS AGE, IT'S A SEPARATE COMPONENT AND WE CAN JUST REPLACE THAT COMPONENT AT A MUCH LOWER COST THAN REPLACING THE WHOLE SCREEN, KEYBOARD, PRINTER, ALL OF THAT.

MOVING STUFF, YOU'D HAVE TO BUY ALL NEW WIRING HARNESSES FOR THE OLD EQUIPMENT AND TRACK THAT DOWN.

IT'S JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE MOVING INTO THE MODULAR COMPONENTS IS THE MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE SOLUTION LONG-TERM.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. TRAVIS?

>> YES. THANK YOU.

>> AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL.

>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT FOR FOUR, PLEASE: 2021 CHEVROLET TAHOE, ONE ANIMAL CONTROL, 2021 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 1500, AND THE PUBLIC WORKS, 2021 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 2500 UTILITY BODY TRUCK.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> CHRIS, THESE WILL HAVE THE NEW LOGO PLACED ON THEM.

>> OKAY.

>> AT LEAST [OVERLAPPING] THE PUBLIC WORKS AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL.

>>YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED TOO, YOU SAW WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, WE'VE GOT A NUMBERING SYSTEM FOR ALL THE VEHICLES.

IT'S PARKS AND REC NUMBER 1, 2, 3, SO WE'VE INSTITUTED ALL OF THOSE THINGS AS PART OF OUR REBRANDING AND IT'LL APPLY TO ALL THE FUTURE VEHICLES.

>> IF YOU'VE SEEN THEM, IT LOOKS SHARP [OVERLAPPING] ON THE VEHICLES. YEAH, LOOKS GOOD.

>> CHIEF, YOU'LL HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO STRIPE THE VEHICLE IN THE CURRENT FORMAT? YOU TAKE THAT TO A STRIPING PLACE TO DO IT TO MATCH THE CURRENT FLEET OR DOES THE NEW LOGO GET PUT ON THERE? JUST CURIOUS.

>> IT SHOULD MATCH THE CURRENT FLEET, BUT MOST OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE, HAVE THE CITY LOGO BACK BEHIND THE REAR DOOR.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. GOT YOU.

[NOISE] OKAY, AWESOME.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSE SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES.

MOVING ON TO NUMBER 17, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ANGLETON UNIVERSITY PROGRAM. MS. [INAUDIBLE]

[17. Discussion and possible action on the Angleton University Program.]

>> HI. I'VE GOT SOMETHING REALLY FUN TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT.

I'LL EXPLAIN IT, ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, AND THEN I ASK THAT YOU TAKE ACTION ON IT TO APPROVE IT SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

ONE OF OUR FAVORITE STAFF MEMBERS, THEY'RE ALL FAVORITES, BUT MEGAN MAINER BROUGHT THIS GOOD IDEA TO US, AND THEN CHRIS ASKED ME TO SEE IF I COULD TAKE IT FORWARD AND CREATE A REAL PROGRAM WITH IT, AND I HAVE.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS AN EDUCATION PROGRAM FOR ANY CITIZEN WHO'S INTERESTED.

IT'S AN EIGHT-WEEK PROGRAM.

[02:15:01]

EACH NIGHT, WE WOULD BE PROVIDING AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S THE BASICS OF ANGLETON GOVERNMENT, PARKS AND RECREATION, MUNICIPAL COURT, ANGLETON'S STRATEGIC PLAN AND NEW ACTIVITIES, LOOKING FORWARD, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE BUDGET, CITY PLANNING.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO THAT FIRST NIGHT IS HAVE THEM IN HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO COVER A LOT OF INFORMATION THE FIRST NIGHT, BUT ALSO INTRODUCE A CAPSTONE PROJECT.

WE WANT TO DO THIS SO THAT AROUND SESSION NINE, THE EVENING WILL BE DEVOTED TO PRESENTING THEIR CAPSTONE PROJECTS, AND IT'LL BE A PROGRAM OR A PROBLEM THEY'VE IDENTIFIED AND SOME SOLUTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT.

THEY WILL GET TO PICK THE PROJECT THAT THEY WANT TO WORK ON.

THEN ON THAT 10TH NIGHT, IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE WITH CITY COUNCIL SO THEY CAN OFFICIALLY GRADUATE AND RECEIVE A CERTIFICATION, AND THAT WILL HELP PREPARE THEM TO SERVE ON OUR COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS AND MAY BE EVEN BECOME A CITY COUNCILPERSON ONE DAY.

IT LOOKS FUN TO ME.

YES, WE'RE COVERING A LOT OF MATERIAL, BUT GOSH, THERE'S A GOOD TIME BUILT IN.

>> IT HELPS CITIES BECAUSE IT GROWS INTEREST IN GOVERNMENT, GROWS PEOPLE THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE BOARD AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

WE'D LIKE TO PUT IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY NOW TO FUND IT.

REALLY, IT'S TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE DINNERS AND THEN PROVIDE US STIPEND FOR THE CITY EMPLOYEE WHICH IS AN INSTRUCTOR OUTSIDE OF THEIR NORMAL DUTY DAY [INAUDIBLE].

>> IF YOU NOTICE THE SYLLABUS, I ONLY HAVE STAFF MEMBERS LISTED THAT WAS FOR BUDGETING PROCESS, BUT OF COURSE, COUNCIL IS WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE TOO.

>> I'LL BE HAPPY TO. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN.

>> SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR.

>> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

[OVERLAPPING] I KNOW WE DID, A STRATEGIC PLAN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. GREAT IDEA.

>> CITY OF COLLEGE STATION DOES IT.

>> TAKE CARE, JOHN.

>> THEY HAVE A BIT THIS YEAR.

I SAW THAT THEY CANCELED IT, BUT THEY HAVE IT.

IT PREPARES PEOPLE FOR BEING ON DIFFERENT COMMITTEES JUST LIKE THEY SAID, AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

>> THEY GET TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE THAT EITHER WORK FOR THE CITY OR REPRESENT THE CITY.

WE MAY HAVE PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS ATTEND SOME OF THE SESSIONS, TALK ABOUT PARKS AND REC, OR PLANNING AND ZONING, AND PUT A FACE TO IT.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I'M THINKING MAYBE WE'LL HAVE 10 PEOPLE IN THE GROUP.

WE'LL HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY, WE CAN START THAT THIS SUMMER. QUESTIONS?

>> YES. I REMEMBER ASKING IN THE DISCUSSION, IN THE SESSION WAS POSSIBLY SOME CORRESPONDING INTERNET GUIDANCE.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED AND I DON'T KNOW IF JASON OR WHOEVER WANTS TO MAY BE PLAN THE PROGRAM IS DEVELOPED.

THERE'S ALSO MAYBE A STUDY AT HOME, OR A FOLLOW LINK, OR DROPDOWN OR SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD NOT ONLY APPLY TO MAY BE JOIN THIS GROUP, BUT YOU COULD ACTUALLY IF YOU WANTED TO SELF-STUDY BECAUSE THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE READERS, PEOPLE WITH CURIOSITY IN MIND, [BACKGROUND] MAYBE NOT ME.

I'M PROBABLY MORE OF AN AUDIO LEARNER, BUT THERE ARE PLENTY WHO WOULD SELF-STUDY AND TAKE OUT, WITHOUT NEEDING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THEMSELVES.

>> SOME THOUGHTS WE HAD EVENTUALLY AND IN OTHER PROGRAMS DO AS THEY HAVE RECORDINGS, WE CAN GO ON THERE AND HAVE BUDGET 101 AND IT'S A FINANCE DIRECTOR READ.

THERE'S MAIN WAYS YOU CAN DO IT.

WE COULD GET SOPHISTICATED AT SOME POINT AND DO SOME ONLINE STUFF TOO.

THEN YOU DO ALL THAT STUFF AND YOU CAN COME IN IF YOU WANT, OR YOU JUST GO THROUGH THAT.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OPTIONS.

WE JUST WANT TO GET THE PROGRAM OFF AND RUNNING, AND GET SOME FEEDBACK.

IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND BE TRANSPARENT.

>> THIS WOULD GO RIGHT IN LINE WITH CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY THAT THE PD DOES.

[02:20:05]

THIS REALLY JUST SHOWS IT JUST TIES IT ALL TOGETHER.

SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, I'M WAY FOR IT.

I'M ALREADY LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR.

NUMBER 10 AND NUMBER 9, I'M AVAILABLE/ I'M NOT WORKING.

>> WONDERFUL.

>> IF WE PASS IT TONIGHT, I WILL PUT IT IN MY CALENDAR, AND FOR SURE I CAN MAKE THOSE TWO MEETINGS.

IT'S GRADUATION AND PRESENTATION [NOISE] NIGHTS, SO IT WORKS FOR ME.

>> I DON'T SEE A TRIP TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THIS.

[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]

>> NOT YET, NOT THIS YEAR.

NOT NEXT YEAR BUT THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYONE TO GRADUATE AND HAVE TO DIP THE BUCKETING [INAUDIBLE]

>> THAT'LL BE THEIR INITIATION.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WHAT IF THERE IS A HUGE RESPONSE, 20 PEOPLE, 25? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? WHAT'S YOUR MAX THAT YOU COULD ACCOMMODATE?

>> I THINK THAT IF WE GET OUR CLASSROOM SIZE TOO BIG, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME COVERING SO MUCH MATERIAL IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

I SPOKE WITH A FRIEND OF MINE WHO'S A RETIRED EDUCATOR AND HE SAID, "WOW, THAT'S ALREADY A LOT OF MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE COVERING." WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO THEN IS LOOK AT HAVING ANOTHER ONE, MAYBE OVER THE SUMMER.

WE COULD EVEN DO IT SPRING, SUMMER, FALL.

>> YEAH.

>> IF THERE'S THAT MUCH INTEREST IN IT, WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT.

>> I DON'T WANT TO TAX YOU, GUYS.

>> BUT I LIKE TRAVIS' IDEA, WE'RE IN THE AGE OF THE INTERNET AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND SELF-LEARNING AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

WE COULD DEVELOP THAT CURRICULUM THAT REALLY, YOU COULD ATTEND IN PERSON IF YOU WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS DIRECTLY OR HAVE A CONVERSATION, OR YOU COULD DO IT ONLINE ALSO. IT'S AN OPTION.

>> ONE OF THE BENEFITS THAT MAYOR KNOWS ABOUT ANGLETON LEADERSHIP IS BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

THAT'S BEEN [INAUDIBLE] TOO.

>> AS THE MAYOR DREW MY ATTENTION TO THE CALENDAR, I'LL SAY MEETING 10, I ALREADY GOT A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN FOR MYSELF.

[NOISE] I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE TUESDAY OF SPRING BREAK, WHICH COULD PRESENT EITHER FOR CITY COUNCIL ITSELF BEING IN QUORUM.

I KNOW THIS YEAR, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN AND A COUPLE OF US HAVE CHILDREN IF WE TRY TO PERHAPS GET OUT OF TOWN THAT WEEK.

THE OTHER THING WOULD DEPEND ON WHO OUR PARTICIPANTS ARE AS WELL.

JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, APRIL 13TH, I'M PRETTY SURE.

>> IT'S A WEDNESDAY.

>> OR MAYBE THAT'S MARCH. I CAN'T REMEMBER.

>> NO, IT'S MARCH.

>> IT'S MARCH, THE MONTH BEFORE, BUT EITHER WAY, IT'S THE SECOND WEEK OF MARCH.

WHAT WEEK OF MARCH IS THAT? [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THIS [OVERLAPPING] CONCEPTUALLY APPROVED AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO GET FEEDBACK. APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.

>> WELL, ANYWAY, THAT MARCH IS THE 10TH DAY OR WHATEVER.

YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT DATE.

>> SURE.

>> I HAVE TO SUGGEST MAKE YOUR CLASSES SMALL UNTIL YOU GET YOUR FEET ON THE GROUND [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES, SIR.

>> COUNCIL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEDGE THERE?

>> WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL, NOT NECESSARILY FUNDING.

WE'LL STICK IN THE BUDGET IF YOU APPROVE IT.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ACTION AUTHORIZING THE ANGLETON UNIVERSITY PROGRAM.

>> SECONDED.

>>MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TELSEN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GALGORE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN? THAT MOTION CARRIES IT.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, COUNCILMAN WRIGHT HAD TO LEAVE AT THE BEGINNING OF ITEM NUMBER 17, SO THAT WAS HE WAS NOT ON THAT VOTE.

NUMBER 18, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON TWO AGREEMENTS WITH P3 WORKS,

[18. Discussion and possible action on two agreements with P3 Works, LLC for public improvement district administration services and authorize the City Manager to execute the documents.]

>> THIS IS MEET TWO REQUIREMENTS ONE IS RIVERWOOD.

WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT A PID, AND SO WE NEED TO HIRE A PID CONSULTANT BECAUSE THIS DEALS WITH BONDS.

WE'VE TALKED WITH [INAUDIBLE] IN THE PAST, BUT HE DOESN'T DEAL WITH BONDS.

P3S COME IN THROUGH OUR BOND ATTORNEY, THROUGH OUR FINANCIAL FOLKS, AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION NOT ONLY ABOUT RIVERWOOD, BUT WE'VE GOT MR. RAY THAT YOU-ALL JUST TALK TO HERE RECENTLY AND HE SAYS, "HEY, WE WANT A PID." HE SENT US, "HEY, TELL US HOW WE GET THE PID," AND WE NEED TO EVALUATE THAT.

[02:25:01]

BASICALLY, IT'S A PID REVIEW TO SEE IF IT'S FINANCIALLY SOUND, AND GET FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE PID.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TWO PROPOSALS AND THEIR ROLE IS TO ENGAGE RIVERWOOD TO GET THAT UNDERWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY IN A TIME CRUNCH.

THEY'RE LOOKING TO PUT HOUSES ON THE GROUND IN AUGUST, AND SO WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS PID STRAIGHTENED OUT BEFORE THAT TIME FRAME.

THEN AGAIN, MR. RAY IS PETITIONED US FOR A PID REVIEW.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ON STAFF TO DO THAT.

EVENTUALLY, WE'D HAVE TO HIRE AN UNDERWRITER TO HELP WITH THAT PROCESS AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT ALSO, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE JUST NEED TO HIRE PID CONSULTANTS.

WE HAD A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK WITH JUDITH AND JOHN, AND WE INVITED JOHN TO COME ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU-ALL HAVE.

>> BASICALLY, THIS IS THE PERSON THAT IT REPRESENTS US, IT PROTECTS OUR INTERESTS AND US? OKAY.

>> ARE THESE COSTS PASSED ON TO THE DEVELOPER?

>> RIGHT. FOR EXAMPLE, MR. RAY'S CASE IN RIVERWOOD, THEY'VE GIVEN US FUNDING TO APPLY TOWARD WHERE THERE'S UNDERWRITING, OR THE PID REVIEW, OR THOSE THINGS.

MR. RAY'S CASE, WE ASK HIM TO GIVE US FEES SO THAT WE COULD DEBIT THAT FOR P3 TO DO PID REVIEWS, SO IT'S NO COST TO THE CITY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR P3 WORKS?

>> I WILL. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, AND PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT CHRIS STATED.

HE SAID THAT YOU COME HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES THAT YOU WORK FOR THAT YOU CAN GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHO YOU'VE DONE WORK WITH.

>> SURE. AGAIN, I'M JOHN SNYDER WITH P3 WORKS.

FIRST OFF, WE ONLY REPRESENT MUNICIPALITIES.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF FIRMS OUT THERE, AND WHEN I SAY A COUPLE, IT'S LITERALLY LIKE FOUR [LAUGHTER] THAT DO THIS TYPE OF WORK.

WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT ONLY REPRESENT MUNICIPALITIES.

THE OTHERS REPRESENT DEVELOPERS.

THEN SOMETIMES CHANGE ACTS, AND AFTER THEY FORM THE DISTRICT AND ISSUE BONDS, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE ADMINISTER IT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

WE FELT THERE'S THIS INHERENT CONFLICT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE HIRED BY THE DEVELOPER, NOW YOU'RE REVIEWING, DRAW REVIEWS AND SENDING THE MONEY OUT, AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE ON THE CITY SIDE OF THE TABLE.

IN TERMS OF CITIES WE REPRESENT, THE PIDS ARE RELATIVELY NEW.

IN TEXAS IN GENERAL, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND NOW FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS.

I'LL CALL IT "MODERN," BUT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 15 YEARS.

THEY'VE REALLY BEEN AROUND PROBABLY SINCE 2000.

IN THE HOUSTON AREA MOST OF THE PIDS SO FAR HAVE, PAY-AS-YOU-GO PIDS OR CASHFLOW PIDS.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A BONDED PID, AND REALLY, THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE HOUSTON AREA.

WE REPRESENT TOMBALL IS ONE OF THOSE.

I KNOW WE'RE REPRESENTING BAY CITY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT ONE.

WE'RE BEING HIRED BY CITY OF HOUSTON.

I THINK WE FINALLY JUST GOT A CONTRACT APPROVED BY BOTH SIDES.

NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

BUT OTHERWISE, THE MAJORITY OF PIDS ARE UP IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA OR DFW, AND WE REPRESENT EVERYBODY FROM MESQUITE TO ROYSE CITY.

WE PROBABLY HAVE 50 CITY CLIENTS, CITY OF AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY.

IN CENTRAL TEXAS, I THINK WE REPRESENT ACTUALLY EVERY MUNICIPALITY, AND THAT'S THE OFFICE THAT I MANAGE.

>>YOU'VE BROUGHT SOMETHING UP THAT JUST MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE.

YOU TALKED ABOUT A BONDED PID AS OPPOSED TO A PAY-AS-YOU-GO, AND THIS IS A NEWER ACTION IF YOU WILL.

EXPLAIN WHY. WHAT'S THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF NOW GOING TO A BONDED PID AS VERSUS TO A PAY-AS-YOU-GO?

>> SURE. WITH THE PAY-AS-YOU-GO PID, IT'S YOU LOB IN AN ASSESSMENT.

IF WE HAVE A 100 UNITS SUBDIVISION COMING IN, YOU MAY LOB IN ASSESSMENTS OF $20,000 PER HOUSE AND THAT'S PAID OVER 30 YEARS.

THERE'S AN INTEREST RATE ON IT AND MAYBE IT'S $1,000 A YEAR, BUT THOSE HOMEOWNERS PAY AND THAT MONEY JUST GOES TO THE DEVELOPER OVER 30 YEARS.

THAT HELPS THE DEVELOPER.

I WOULD TAKE IT IF I WAS THE DEVELOPER.

I'D GET AN ANNUITY STREAM, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP THE DEVELOPER GET INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND BECAUSE HE'S SUPPOSED TO GO OUT AND GET HIS FINANCING AND HE HAS TO GET INVESTORS TO INVEST IN.

NOW YOU'RE RELYING ON SOME 30-YEAR ANNUITY.

VERSUS A BONDED PID, YOU CAN ACTUALLY ISSUE THE BONDS UPFRONT.

YOU CAN GET INFRASTRUCTURE IN, WHICH CITIES LIKE BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY, "HEY,

[02:30:02]

IT ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO PROVIDE ENHANCED ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PROJECT.

REALLY, THAT'S UP TO CITY COUNCIL THEN DETERMINING WHAT THE ENHANCEMENTS ARE.

WE SEE EVERYTHING FROM, WE WANT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, MORE MASONRY, WE SEE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, WE WANT PARKS OR OPEN SPACE, WHATEVER IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS USUALLY NEGOTIATED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS PART OF THE PID.

>> PART OF THAT WOULD BE PUTTING IN PLACE PID STANDARDS AND A PROCESS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, MR. RAY EMAILS ME AND I'M LIKE, "WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS? WHO'S ON FIRST AND WHAT'S ON SECOND? WHERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF?" LIKE JOHN SAID, IT PUTS IN DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN, SO WHEN WE SAY WE WANT A PID, THEY CAN LIST WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT WOULD ENHANCE THEIR DEVELOPMENT AS THE REASON WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE PID.

THAT MAKES OUR LIFE SIMPLE.

WE KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

IT COMES IN, IT GETS REVIEWED BY STAFF, IT GOES TO JOHN, IT GOES TO LEGAL, AND IT GOES COUNCIL, AND WE'RE DONE WITH THE PROCESS.

>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS, THE FOLLOW-UP ON CSL.

I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA ITEM SUMMARY AND IT SAYS BUDGETED AMOUNT, AND THEN SAYS "ENTER TEXT HERE." [INAUDIBLE] ON THAT.

>> YES. RIVERWOOD HAS PUT UP A DEPOSIT.

WE'LL WITHDRAW AGAINST THAT DEPOSIT TO PAY P3S WHO ARE JUST LIKE THEM.

THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITY.

WE ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY.

AGAIN, IN MR. RAY'S CASE, ONCE WE HIRE OUR P3, WE'LL SAY, "HEY, PLEASE GIVE US A DEPOSIT OF X THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO WHATEVER EVERYONE ELSE IS PAYING," AND WE'LL DRAW AGAINST THAT TO PAY FOR LEGAL FEES AND PID FEES.

>> OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. JOHN, FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

>> WELL, IF THERE'S NO OTHER INQUIRIES THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE ACTION ON THE AGREEMENT WITH P3WORKS, LLC, FOR THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE CHRIS TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT UPON LEGAL REVIEW.

>> FOR THE TWO AGREEMENTS, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

>> CORRECT. FOR THOSE TWO ONES THAT HAVE BEEN ARTICULATED. [NOISE]

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> ME, SECOND.

>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES. MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE LUCKY IT'S NOT A 12 O'CLOCK AGENDA BECAUSE YOU'RE AT THE VERY BOTTOM.

[LAUGHTER] WE'VE HAD SOME OF THOSE.

>> THANKS, JOHN.

>> THANK YOU. SAFE TRAVEL HOME.

>> THAT YOU, SIR.

> MOVING ON, NUMBER 19,

[19. Discussion and possible action on any of Governor Abbott’s latest executive orders, Brazoria County’s emergency declarations and impact on the City of Angleton and how to proceed with city business in the future.]

>> WELL, HAPPY TO REPORT, AGAIN, OUR VACCINATION RATES ARE HIGH.

WE'RE WAY UP OVER A-THIRD OF THE COUNTY.

THAT'S AS SMALL AS THEY BREAK IT DOWN.

OUR HOSPITALIZATION RATE IS WAY DOWN, IT'S BELOW FIVE PERCENT, AND IT'S BEEN CONSISTENT DOWN THERE.

I THINK OUR AVERAGE DAILY RATE IS ANYWHERE FROM 12-15, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED LOCALLY, YOU'VE READ IN THE PAPER, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS STOPPED HAVING THEIR PHONE BANK, ANSWERING THOSE ENDLESS PHONE CALLS THAT THEY'VE HAD SET UP SINCE MARCH.

THE STATE HAS CUT BACK THEIR DISTRIBUTION, NOT TO CUT IT BACK, BUT THEY'RE NOT FORCING VACCINE ONTO A LOT OF OUR PROVIDERS THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE, IT'S ALL TO ORDER RIGHT NOW.

SO OUR DEMAND IS STARTING TO DIE OUT, AND I'D HATE TO SAY WE'RE SEEING AN END, BUT WE'RE ALMOST SEEING AN END.

THERE'S SOME NEW DIRECTION OUT FROM CDC ON WHAT TO DO WITH FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED, WHO HAVE BEEN VACCINATED, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT INCORPORATING THAT INTO OUR BACK-TO-WORK POLICY.

SO THINGS ARE LOOKING GOOD.

WE HAD A FEW SURPRISES LAST WEEK ON OUR CARES ACT FUNDING, A FEW ITEMS THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED PREVIOUSLY, BUT ARE JUST NOW HITTING THE BILLS, HAVE AFFECTED THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, PLUS SOME OTHER ITEMS, PPE, PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, AND THE ANNUAL RENEWAL TO ZOOM IMPACTED US OVER

[02:35:03]

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRIORITIZED LIST TO PUT IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS TO VOTE ON AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

>> IN ADDITION, WE MET WITH LUCILLE MAES FROM THE AMBULANCE SERVICE, AND THEY'VE GOT REQUIREMENTS.

WE ADDED THAT IN THERE.

STAFF IS PRIORITIZING THE CARES MONEY THAT YOU DIDN'T APPROVE YET, AND SO WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

BUT I THINK WE'RE 98 PERCENT RIGHT NOW ON BRINGING THEM BACK.

>> WE'RE DOING SOME ACTIVITIES IN THE COMMUNITY TO [OVERLAPPING] ALLOW SOME NORMALCY.

WE HAD THE [OVERLAPPING] CONCERT AT THE PARK, WHICH [OVERLAPPING] WAS WELL-ATTENDED.

WE SAW SOME WITH MASKS, SOME WITHOUT, THAT'S OKAY, WE'RE OUTDOORS.

>> EXACTLY.

>> THAT WAS GOOD TO SEE.

IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET BACK TO SOME OF THAT NORMALCY.

>> CORRECT. PEACH STREET IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN EVENT NEXT MONTH.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NICE LITTLE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BRING US BACK TO NORMAL.

>> [OVERLAPPING] SOFTBALL, BASEBALL, THEY'RE DOING THEIR THING, SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE PEOPLE COMING BACK TOGETHER AND SEEING EACH OTHER.

>> I THOUGHT WE HAVE ANOTHER CONCERT IN THE PARK, NOT [NOISE] OUR SERIES, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER AS WELL.

>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, WE GET OURS. IT WAS FRIDAY NIGHT.

IT WAS STAYING OUT ALL NIGHT.

OH, JIM IS DOING HIS [OVERLAPPING] NEXT WEEKEND, THE 27TH.

>> [OVERLAPPING] YEAH, 21ST

>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M SAYING IN ADDITION TO OUR SERIES, THERE'S ALSO [OVERLAPPING] THE ADDITIONAL CONFERENCE [OVERLAPPING] SERIES THAT'S GOING ON AT WELCH.

JUST MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PEOPLE OF ANGLETON TO ENJOY THEMSELVES.

>> EXACTLY. GET OUTSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WHILE THE WEATHER'S STILL GOOD.

>> RIGHT. MAY CAN BE THE BEST TIME OF THE YEAR, BEFORE IT GETS TOO HOT.

IT CAN BE. OF COURSE, IT MIGHT GET WET TOO.

[LAUGHTER] A LOT OF RAIN.

>> ONCE AGAIN, WE APPLAUD STAFF FOR EVERYTHING AND BEING VERY FLUID AND HELPING US GET BACK TO NORMAL, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE IN THE FUTURE.

MR. BOOTH, MR. GONGORA.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I'LL BE ELATED WHEN MR. LEMONT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME AND PRESENT ANY OF THIS STUFF TO YOU.

>> YES.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM HAS HE EVER PETITIONED TO GO AT THE BEGINNING [LAUGHTER] SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT AROUND. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THEY SAID YOU HAD TO PAY TO BE AT THE BEGINNING, SO I DON'T KNOW. [LAUGHTER]

>> I JUST REALLY ENJOY HIM BEING IN THE CODERED VOICE OF ANGLETON.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> CODERED IS MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WHERE OUR REGISTRATION RATE HAS REALLY GONE UP, ESPECIALLY.

AT FIRST, I HAD MY DOUBTS ARE DOING THESE MONTHLY TESTS, BUT THEY DRIVE PEOPLE INTO GETTING THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND AFTER EVERY TEST, I GET AT LEAST EIGHT OR 10 CALLS TO MY OFFICE TO SIGN THEM UP ON TOP OF THE FOLKS THAT SIGN THEMSELVES UP, SO OUR NUMBER'S SOMEWHERE ABOUT 7,000.

>> THAT'S FANTASTIC. I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU AS WELL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES AND BEING THIS INTERMEDIARY BETWEEN THE STATE HIERARCHY AND US LOCALS AND TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF THIS AND APPLYING WHAT WE KNOW OR HAVE BEEN TOLD TO WHAT WE CAN DO.

I APPRECIATE IT. YOU'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

>> THANKS.

>> ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF TO DEAL WITH THIS WHOLE COVID ISSUE? LIKE COUNCILMAN BOOTH SAID, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DAY WHERE WE CAN TAKE THE ONGOING 19 OFF THE LIST, OR AT LEAST MAYBE QUARTERLY OR SOMETHING.

THAT MOVES US TO THE PART OF THE AGENDA WHEN IT COMPLETES REGULAR ITEMS, AND WE'LL GO TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION PORTION.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

NUMBER 20, CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 IN THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, AND NUMBER 21, DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.073 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

I WILL SHOW US ADJOURNING AND GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:45. [NOISE]

>> GO AHEAD, JASON.

>> GO AHEAD AND SHOW US RECONVENE BACK AT 10:04.

NOTHING COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL SHOW US ADJOURNED AT 10:04. [NOISE]

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.