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THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING FOR OUR TOWN HALL REGARDING THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE DESPITE THE INCLEMENT WEATHER.
SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TREK OUT HERE.
I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A KIND OF A BASIS FOR THIS EVENING.
WOULD YOU HAVE CARTE KHAN IN HERE WITH US AS WELL AS THE DESIGNERS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO PREFACE THE MEETING WITH PLAN TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM SO THAT FOLKS ON FACEBOOK CAN HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, CLARK CONDON AND OUR DESIGNERS ALSO HAVE A MIC TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO JASON MILLER.
WHO'S GOING TO START WITH THE PRESENTATION.
WE DO HAVE SOME RENDERINGS HERE AS WELL ON SITE THAT WE'LL LIKELY HAVE AN INTERACTIVE ACTIVITY AS WELL, UH, FOR YOU TO ENGAGE IN.
BUT AS A REMINDER, PLEASE DO COME UP TO THE MIC TESTIMONY SAYS THAT DOESN'T WORK.
UM, FOR EVERYBODY WE WERE HERE LAST TIME, SO THANK YOU.
I'M A PRINCIPAL AT CLARK CONDON.
UM, WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE OUR PROJECT MANAGER BOSS IN BEHIND BRANDON WHITTAKER AND THEN CRAIG MINOR WITH A MINOR DESIGN.
WHO'S OUR GRAPHIC DESIGNER FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, WHAT WE WERE WANTING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS BASICALLY AN EXTENSION OF THE LAST MEETING FROM KV.
UM, THE KB BOARD MEETING, UM, WE TOOK THE COMMENTS AND THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THAT MEETING, AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, COMMENTS WE GOT FROM COUNCIL AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
AND WE'VE TRANSLATED THAT INTO, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS AND DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT VARIATIONS THAT YOU'LL SEE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
AND THEN THEN A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL, UH, EXPANDED, UH, INFORMATION.
UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO SHOW, UM, UH, IS SOME MAYBE CLOSER TO SIMILAR SIZE, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE THAT HAVE DONE A FAMILY LIKE THIS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S BEEN BUILT IN JERSEY VILLAGE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER SCALE THEY'RE IN SOME MEDIANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEIR WRITEAWAYS, UH, SPRINGWOOD VILLAGE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY, UM, NOT A CITY, BUT IT'S A LARGE AREA IT'S UP WHERE, UM, UH, EXXON BUILT THEIR CAMPUS, BUT THEIR WHOLE, THAT WHOLE AREA, THEY DID SIGNAGE LIKE THIS, WHERE WE DID MONUMENT SIGNS, WAYFINDING SIGNS DOWN TO EVEN TRAIL SIGNAGE, UH, TEXAS CITY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME KIND OF THING WE'RE DOING FOR YOU GUYS.
UM, THAT'S STILL IN THE CONCEPTUAL PHASE, PORT ARTHUR IS THE SAME THING.
WE HAVE A WHOLE FAMILY THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THEM.
THEY JUST ACCEPTED THAT, SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING OUR FIRST PHASE WITH THEM.
AND THEN FOLSTER IS DOING, THEY'RE KIND OF DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME KIND OF THINGS.
THEY'RE ALL LOOKING AT WAYFINDING, MONUMENT, SIGNAGE, AND IDENTITY.
SO YOU'RE IN THE SAME GROUP AS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT SURROUND YOU AGAIN.
I WANT TO RE REITERATE, UH, THIS WAS THE, UH, CITY ANGLETON CITY ANGLETON BRAND STANDARD THAT WAS, UH, WAS ACCEPTED, UM, THE COLOR PALETTES AND LOGO.
UM, WE TRIED TO INCORPORATE AS MUCH AS WE COULD, AS WE STARTED LOOKING THROUGH THESE CONCEPTS.
THIS NEXT MAP IS, IS AN EXPANDED VERSION OF WHAT WE SHOWED IN THE FIRST CO UH, FIRST MEETING.
UM, WHAT WE WANTED TO ACTUALLY GET AT TODAY IS START TO LOOK AT WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY START TO PUT IN A SPECIFIC SIGN AND THEN TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT'S DIFFERENT SIZES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS MAP EVERYWHERE, THERE'S AN A, WE WOULD CALL THAT A PRIMARY ENTRY.
NOW THIS BILL, THESE PRIMARY ENTRIES MAY VARY IN SIZE.
THEY MAY BE THE SAME MONUMENT, BUT SOME MAY BE 20 FOOT.
SO MAYBE 10 FEET, DEPENDING ON THE SCALE OF THE ROAD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE SIGN ITSELF WOULD LOOK THE SAME.
UH, THE SECONDARY MONUMENTATION.
UM, THIS ONE IS IF YOU TOOK IT, AND FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE WORKING IN A TEXTILE RIGHT AWAY, AND WE WANTED TO HAVE A LARGER MONUMENT WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE WORK WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE WORDS ON IT.
SO IT'S A MORE SCULPTURAL OPTION.
SO YOU'LL SEE OPTIONS LIKE THAT THROUGH THESE, THESE SCHEMES AS WELL.
UH, THE C OR THE STREET BANNER PROGRAM, YOU GUYS HAVE HAD A STREET BURNER PROGRAM ALREADY.
AND WHAT WE LOOKED AT AS THE SAME STREETS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE BANNERS ON AND HOW THAT CAN BE EXPANDED AS A STARTING POINT WITH THIS PROGRAM AS WELL.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TWO STREETS, UM, GLASGOW AND HIGHWAY 35 AS OUR STARTING POINT FOR THE BANNER PROGRAM.
A DIRECTIONAL SIGN IS PRIMARY.
THIS IS MAINLY YOUR VEHICULAR SIGNAGE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, AS YOU PULL INTO AN INTERSECTION OR GET CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, OR START TO GET OFF THE HIGHWAY, YOU HAVE DIRECTIONAL SCIENCE, THAT'S BRANDED FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
THESE ARE MUCH LARGER SIGNS TELLING YOU, HEY, CITY HALL IS THIS WAY, DOWNTOWN THIS WAY, THAT KIND OF THING, A DESTINATION SIGN.
SO THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE AT LIKE CITY HALL.
UM, THE COURTHOUSE PARKS, UH, PLACES LIKE THAT, LARGE THINGS THAT THE CITY WOULD WANT TO BRAND AS PART OF THE SIGNAGE PROGRAM.
AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT WHEN WE SHOW SOME IMAGES LATER, UH, SECONDARY DIRECTION,
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WELL, THAT'S ALL YOUR PEDESTRIAN.SO MOST LIKELY WHERE THIS WOULD PROBABLY START, IT'D BE IN YOUR DOWNTOWN CORE, OR YOU COULD BUILD UPON THAT FROM DIRECTION, PEOPLE THAT THINGS DOWNTOWN, WHERE PEOPLE ARE MORE APT TO BE WALKING.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, IN DETAIL ABOUT THIS, THESE, THESE, UH, BLOW UP PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT STARTS TO SHOW YOU HOW MANY LOCATIONS YOU COULD EVEN START AS DAY ONE TO PUT SOME OF THOSE SIGNS GOTCHA.
SO LIKE WE SAID, LAST TIME, UM, YOU GUYS, UM, MADE SOME SELECTIONS BASED ON THE PREFERENCES AND YOU HAD TWO VERSIONS THAT YOU LIKED FROM THAT LAST CONVERSATION.
AND WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THOSE TWO OPTIONS AND TRIED TO EXPAND UPON THEM.
BASED ON SOME COMMENTS WE'VE HEARD ABOUT LOOKING AT DIFFERENT MATERIALS, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT, UM, ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT WOULD SUPPORT IT.
AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE A THIRD VERSION THIRD VERSION TODAY THAT WILL, UM, KIND OF TAKE THAT TO THE NEXT OR NEXT STEP BASED ON LOOKING AT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE IN, SOME OF THE PARKS THAT'S GOING ON TODAY AS WELL, AND SOME OF THE MATERIALITY THERE.
SO THIS WAS OPTION ONE A FROM THE ORIGINAL VERSION, WHAT WE REALLY LOOKED AT, UH, EXPANDING UPON HERE.
OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST TWO SIGNS WERE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SHOWED YOU PREVIOUSLY.
WE TOOK ANOTHER LOOK AND POTENTIALLY LOOKED AT IF THAT STONE CHANGED WARMER STONE ON THE BASE, AS OPPOSED TO THE LIGHTER STONE.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THAT.
WE INCORPORATED THE BANNER PROGRAM.
SO YOU CAN LOOK AT UPGRADING YOUR STREET LIGHTS WITH, UH, ADDITIONAL BANNERS, LARGER BANNERS IN WHAT YOU HAVE, AND THIS IS A DUAL BANNER.
AND THEN WE INCORPORATED THE, UM, THE DESTINATION SIGNAGE ON THIS PLAN ON THIS, UH, CONCEPT.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT ALL FEEDS TOGETHER.
AND THEY ALL LOOK, UH, AS PART OF THE FAMILY.
SO THAT'S OPTION ONE, A OPTION, ONE B AGAIN, THE FAMILY IS VERY SIMILAR.
SO THE, THE, FROM THE BANNER, UH, THE BANNERS TO THE, THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE AND ALL THAT IS VERY SIMILAR, BUT WHAT THIS DOES ON THE LARGER MONUMENTS, IT STARTS TO LOOK AT REPLICATING THE LOOK OF THE POLES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE DIRECTIONAL AND THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE, AND EVEN THE CITY HALL SIGN.
SO THAT BASE WOULD BE A METAL.
SO IT'S A GRAY METAL ON THIS, IN THIS INSTANCE, AND THEN LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE COULD PLAY WITH THE ARTICULATION OF THE HEART AND THIS OPTION, AND THEN HOW WE COULD DO DIFFERENT LIGHTING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL.
SO LIKE THAT MIDDLE B OPTION IS LIKE A, UH, KRILLICK WITH THAT'S BACK LIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS OPPOSED TO THEM PERFORATED CASH OPTION TWO, A, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS A DIRECT CORRELATION FROM THE PREVIOUS VERSION, AND WE'VE EXPANDED AGAIN ON THE FAMILY OF THE OPPOSITE OF THE SIGNAGE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
SO WE INCORPORATE, AGAIN THE SAME AS VERY SIMILAR, UH, UH, BANNER WITH THE STREETLIGHT, BUT WHAT THE BIGGEST ONE, THE UPDATE ON THIS AS AGAIN, THE, A DESTINATION, SIGN IT AS AN ADAGE TO THIS, UH, UH, FAMILY.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN ARTICULATE WITH THE, WITH THE LIGHT, THIS TIME ON DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE OKAY.
SO THERE'S TWO, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS ON THIS, THIS OPTION THAT, THAT ARE DIFFERENT.
SO, UM, ONE COMMENT THAT WE GOT LAST TIME WAS WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE LOOKED AT LIKE A CORE TIN METAL OR A METAL THAT'S PAINTED SIMILAR TO CORTEN AS THAT BLADE? SO THIS STARTS TO LOOK AT THAT AS A DARKER OR A WARMER OR RICHER METAL WORK AS A PART OF THE SIGNAGE PIECE OF IT.
UM, AND THEN THIS ALSO INCORPORATES A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT, A LITTLE BIT OF PLAY ON THE HEART WITH THE BANNER AND THE ARMS AND THE POLES.
SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT BRANDING AS WELL AS THE BANNER ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO THAT'S OPTION TWO B, AND THEN OUR THIRD OPTION, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE LAST TIME, BUT IT CAME OUT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WERE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER MATERIALS THAT WE HAVE GOING IN TO SOME OF THE PARKS, ESPECIALLY LIKE LAKESIDE THAT'S BEING DESIGNED RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE THAT'S BEING GONE, THAT'S GOING ON THERE.
SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS KIND OF MOVING, UM, AND UTILIZING SOME OF THE STUFF THAT EVERYBODY LIKED FROM OPTION TWO AND NEAT, AND TRYING TO ADD THAT TO THE SOME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO THE BASIS, LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE MITCH RICHARD MATERIALS OF SAME STONES.
AND AGAIN, THE FAMILY IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW IN OPTION TWO WITH, WITH THE SIGNAGE PIECES OF IT.
IT'S JUST THAT THE BASE REALLY CHANGED.
AND THEN HOW THE SA THE SIGNS ARE SANDWICHED TOGETHER ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO THEY HAVE THAT PURPLE BAND THAT RUNS AROUND THE EDGE.
AND YOU SEE THE EDGES OF THESE OPTION THREE B IS THE EXACT SAME ON THE SHAPES OF THE SIGNS, THE REAL DIFFERENCES, WHAT TYPE OF STONE YOU'RE USING.
SO WE WENT FROM A DARKER STONE TO A LIGHTER STONE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START TO TALK ABOUT POPS OF COLOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE PURPLES, FOR EXAMPLE, POP OFF THE LIGHTER COLOR THAN THEY DO.
AND THE LIGHTS WOULD PIPE, OR LIKE PURPLE LIGHT, OR LIGHTS WOULD POP OFF THE LIGHTER COLOR THAN SAY THE DARK, BECAUSE THEY, THEY WOULD ABSORB IT A LITTLE BIT.
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UM, IS VERY SIMILAR, UM, AS AN OPTION.UM,
AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE EXERCISE IN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LOOKING AT THESE AND HAVING COMMENTS, TALKING ABOUT THEM, UM, AND THEN DO OUR SELECTION.
LIKE WE DID LAST TIME TO SEE WHERE, WHERE WE THINK WE LAND.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU TODAY IS WE EXPANDED SOME VIEWS OF THESE FAMILIES.
WE LOOKED AT, WE PICKED ONE FROM EACH ONE AND TRIED TO SHOW THEM IN A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT VIEWS, ALONG WITH THE FAMILY OF STREET SIGNAGE AND DESTINATION SIGNS AS WELL.
SO THIS IS LOOKING AT, THIS IS OPTION ONE B.
SO THIS IS THE, THE ONE ON THE, UM, THAT HAS ALL THE METAL AND THE BASE.
SO THIS IS WHAT A TYPICAL INTERSECTION OF A HIGHWAY WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DID FOUR, NO.
AND THEN AS YOU'RE DRIVING ON THE FEEDER ROAD OR THE ROADS COMING UP TO THAT INTERSECTION, UM, DOWN ON THE GROUND LEVEL VERSUS UP ON THE, ON THE OVERPASS, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE, AND THEN AS YOU'RE DRIVING ALONG THE HIGHWAY, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE STICKING UP ABOVE, UM, ABOVE THE RAILS, A CLOSE CLOSEUP VIEW OF THE SIGN AND THE, UH, THE ADJACENT LANDSCAPE ASSOCIATED WITH, RIGHT.
AND THEN IF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT NIGHT, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE HEART WOULD BE LIT UP, THE WORDS WOULD BE LIT UP, UM, SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING EITHER ON THE HIGHWAY OR ON THE FEEDERS, YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE YOU ARE AND THAT IMPACT OF THE SIGN IN BOTH IN THE EVENING, AS WELL AS IN THE DAY.
SO THIS IS THE, WHAT WE CALL THAT B VERSION OF THE OPTION.
UM, SO WHERE IF THEY HAD TO GET TALLER, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY HAD TO BE, UM, DOWN ON THE LOWER PLANE, WHERE SAY YOU HAD AN OVERPASS THAT HAD VERTICAL WALLS, OR THEY WERE PLANNING, WE WERE PLANNING ON, FOR EXAMPLE, HIGHWAY EXPANSION.
SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO MOVE ANY SIGNS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU COULD DO A LARGER MONUMENT, UM, BUT ONCE YOU START GETTING OVER 20 FOOT AND TEXTILE RIGHT AWAY, THEY DON'T ALLOW WORDS.
SO WE HAD TO DO A MORE SCULPTURAL IDEA AND IDENTITY, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THESE OPTIONS THAT DON'T HAVE THE WORDS ON IT, BUT STILL TELL THE SAME STORY AND WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM THE HIGHWAY.
AGAIN, THE POTENTIAL WITH THIS COULD ALSO BE AS IF, IF THE HIGHWAY EXPANDED AND IT'S A VERTICAL WALL THERE THAT, THAT SIGNS UP CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY, UH, JUST IN THIS, THIS INSTANCE THAT YOU'RE, YOU HAVE THE SPACE TO EXPAND, BUT, UM, THE HIGHWAY IS NOT THERE YET.
AND THEN WHAT THOSE WOULD LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT, WE COULD UPLIGHT THESE, THEY STILL HAVE THE BACK LID ON THE HEART.
UM, SO THEY COULD JUST BE LIT A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
AND THEN LOOKING AT THIS OPTION, WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT WHAT A TYPICAL STREETSCAPE COULD LOOK LIKE, UM, WHEN YOU START TO APPLY THE SIGNAGE, OBVIOUSLY WE TRIED TO APPLY IT, ALL OF IT INTO ONE IMAGE, SO YOU COULD SEE WHERE IT WOULD APPLY.
SO THIS SEEMS LIKE A LOT, BUT, UM, YOU COULD SEE HOW THE BANNER PROGRAM STARTS TO APPLY TO THE STREETLIGHTS, UM, HOW THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE WORKS WITH THE, UM, UH, THE VEHICLES.
AND THEN FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE CHAMBER, YOU COULD HAVE THE MONUMENT SIGN ITSELF.
AND THE SECOND IMAGE, IF YOU WENT OUT TO THE CORNER HERE ON CITY HALL, HOW IT COULD BE TRANSLATED THERE AGAIN, YOU COULD HAVE THE BANNER PROGRAM STILL RUNNING ON THAT SAME STREET, THE CITY HALL SIGN, AND THEN THE WAYFINDING AS WELL.
AND YOU CAN START TO SEE WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THESE IMAGES, THE BIG THING IS YOU START TO SEE THAT THAT PURPLE, THAT POP OF COLOR REALLY STARTS TO BRIGHTEN UP THE STREETSCAPE, UM, EVEN WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL, UM, IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, NEW STREETSCAPES, NEW HARDSCAPE, NEW PLANTING, THINGS LIKE THAT, STREET TREES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THE NEXT ONE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IS THE TWO B VERSION.
SO THIS IS STARTING TO LOOK AT ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT HAS THE DARKER, UM, OR THE METAL, UH, WARMER METALS, AS THE, AS THE BLADE.
AGAIN, WE START LOOKING AT, UH, UH, HIGHWAY OVERPASS, UM, LOOKING AT IT FROM A FURTHER AWAY AGAIN, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AS YOU DRIVE UP TO IT, UM, FROM THE, THE, UM, GROUND LEVEL, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY CLOSEUP VERSION OF IT IN THE LANDSCAPE, HOW THIS ONE COULD BE LIT UP AT NIGHT FOR, SO THIS ONE'S SHOWING IT BEING UPLIT FROM THE GROUND AS OPPOSED TO BACKLIT OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN LIKE THESE THINGS.
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THIS ONE HAS A PART ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT ONE HANDED ON THEIR TABLE.IT'S JUST, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE, YOU CAN SEE IT ON HERE, IT'S ETCHED INTO THE STONE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A SUBTLE STATEMENT.
UM, ON A HIGHWAY INSTANCE LIKE THIS, YOU PROBABLY, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE LESS VISIBLE.
UM, WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO SOME OF YOUR SMALLER ROADWAYS WHERE YOU'RE CLOSER UP TO IT, OR GOING SLOWER SPEEDS, IT'D BE MORE EVIDENT
AND THAT'S ONE THING TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ETCHING SOMETHING INTO THE STONE AS A HEART, UH, BEING A MORE SUBTLE STATEMENT VERSUS YOU LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE THAT HAVE THE EXTRUDED METAL THAT MAY BE LIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S A MUCH STRONGER STATEMENT THAN SOME OF THESE MONUMENTS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ON THIS ONE, YOU, YOU START TO LOOK AT THE HEART.
IT'S MORE OBVIOUSLY APPARENT WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT A MORE SCULPTURAL VERSION OF IT.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE VERSIONS WHERE HE WENT UP TO LIKE 40 FOOT TALL ON THIS OPTION, AGAIN, WITH THE HIGHWAY EXPANDED, OR WE HAD A VERTICAL WALL FOR, FOR AN OPTION, BUT STILL STILL TELLS THE SAME STORY, UM, OR AT LEAST GOES WITH THE THEME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SELL AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT UP CLOSE.
SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THIS ONE IS NOT LIT, BUT DOES IT, THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT IT COULDN'T BE, IF IT ONE, IF YOU NEED, IF YOU WANTED THE HEART TO BE LIT IN THIS INSTANCE, AS OPPOSED TO EVERYTHING BEING UPLIFT
AND AGAIN, THE SAME VIEW WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE FIRST OPTION, BUT LOOKING AT THE STREETSCAPE AGAIN, YOU CAN START TO SEE THE BIG DIFFERENCE HERE WOULD BE DOING THE UPGRADED POLES WITH THE BANNER ARM, WITH THE HEART ON IT.
IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE KIND OF EXCITEMENT, A LITTLE BIT OF ARTISTIC FEEL AS YOU WALK AS YOU'RE GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, THE SIGNAGE ITSELF.
UM, YOU OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE ON THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE HERE, YOU START TO SEE THAT HEART A LITTLE BIT MORE, CAUSE YOU'RE AT SLOWER SPEEDS.
UM, IT'S A LOT MORE EVIDENT, BUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT FAMILY IN THAT IMAGE.
AND EVEN HERE, WE START TO SHOW POTENTIALLY YOU COULD START TO EVEN TRANSLATE THIS TO STREET SIGNAGE.
SO IN THE UPPER, RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE IF THEY, IF YOU TAKE USE THE SAME COLOR, USE THE HEART ON THERE, UM, AS A PART OF ALL THE STREET SIGNAGE AS WELL.
SO, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, LIGHTER STONE VERSION OF THE LAST OPTION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME VIEW.
SO LOOKING FAR AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION ON THE HIGHWAY SCALE, OKAY.
WHAT'D YOU RECEIVE COMING UP TO IT FROM THE STREET, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE GOING DOWN THE HIGHWAY, AND THEN THIS ONE BACK TO THAT SAME COMMENT THAT OBVIOUSLY WITH AN EXTRUDED METAL HEART, IT POPS OUT MORE.
AND THEN I THINK IN THE, UM, THE NIGHT VERSION THAT'S LIT UP OR HAS A HALO AROUND, OKAY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE JUST UPLOADED IT ON THIS ONE, BUT YOU CAN PLAY, WE CAN PLAY WITH THE LIGHT ON THESE AND DO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU GO BACK LIKE THE, THE HEART YOU GET BACK, LIKE THE ANGLETON, YOU COULD UPGRADE IT.
YOU COULD DO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS DEPENDING ON HOW WE WANT TO GO FORWARD.
ON THIS ONE, YOU COULD EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT BAND ON THE INSIDE BEING LIT, HAVING A GLOW TO IT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING UP TO IT ON THE LOWER ROADS OR THE UNDERPASS, IF THAT BAND WAS LIT, SO YOU HAVE LIKE THE STRIPES OF PURPLE UP THERE BECAUSE THE SIGNAGE ISN'T FACING THAT, THAT SECTION, THAT INTERSECTION LIKE THAT.
AND THEN IF YOU WENT TO THE, THE LARGER VERSION, WE WENT THAT TO GO SCULPTURAL.
UM, AGAIN, THIS ONE IS JUST SHOWING THE HEART OPTION.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL JUST UPLIFT, BUT AGAIN, WE CAN PLAY WITH THE LIGHT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, SAME VIEW, JUST THE DIFFERENT UPDATED SIGNAGE WITH THE, THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE AND THIS ONE.
AND THE, UM, THE DESTINATION SIGNAGE ALONG WITH THE BANNER POLES IS VERY SIMILAR.
AND AGAIN, THAT APPLICATION AT CITY HALL.
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SO WITH THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THE OPTIONS AND SOME DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THEM.WE CAN FLIP BACK TO ANY OF THEM, BUT I WANT TO OPEN UP TO ANYBODY THAT HAS QUESTIONS THAT WAY WE CAN FEEL THOSE.
AND THEN ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THE QUESTIONS, WE CAN KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT, SEE WHAT EVERYBODY LIKES.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WAS ON THE THIRD OPTION AND THE RENDERINGS THAT SHOWS ON THE SIDE VIEW.
THE THIRD, THE VERY THIRD FAMILY YOU GOT TO WHERE IT HAS FOUR POLES, BUT ON, ON THIS PRINT OUT, IT HAS A SOLID, IS THERE, WHICH ONE ARE WE USING FOR THAT? AS FAR AS THE, DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING? OH, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SIDE VIEW, RIGHT.
IT CAN BE EITHER OR, BUT THIS ONE ON THE, ON THIS ONE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN A 3D, WHEN WE START TO DO THE EXTRUSION OF IT, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO WANT TO BE FOUR POSTS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S OPEN, UM, CAUSE IT, WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT THE WIDTH OF THAT SIGN, UM, BUT DEPENDS ON HOW THE, HOW WIDE IT IS, WHETHER WE WOULD NEED FOUR POSTS OR SOLID.
SO LET'S JUST GOING TO BE A STUDY THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO GOING FORWARD, UM, TO SEE WHICH LOOKS THE BEST AND WHICH STRUCTURALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN WHEN WE START SUPPORTING THAT THING UP IN THE AIR.
CAUSE THOSE ARE REALLY GOING TO BE THE FOUR POINTS ON THIS VERSION, THAT FOUR POINTS OR THE SIZE OR WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT THAT UPPER PIECE IF THAT'S OPEN UNDERNEATH THERE.
AND THE REASON THAT I ASK IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU TAKE A OR REFERENCE LAKESIDE, THEY HAVE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD ON THE PAVILION, IT HAS THE TWO, THE TWO POLES AND UPLIGHTING.
AND SO THE LIGHTING WOULD BE CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THAT SIGN, VERSUS IF IT IS FOUR, I WOULD BE PUTTING IT ON POTENTIALLY EITHER SIDE.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT, UM, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART ON ALL THESE SIGNS, UM, WHAT WE WOULD TRY TO GO FOR FIRST IS INTERNALLY LIGHTING EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT KEEPS IT ALL, UM, CENTRALLY TO THE SIGN ITSELF.
WHEN YOU START TO DOING UPLIGHTS OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, IT CAN BE POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH MAINTENANCE COMPANIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THERE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ANY UPLIGHT STRAIGHT FROM THE BASE.
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE INTERNAL TO THAT, THAT, UM, THAT BOX UP TOP.
UM, SO IN THAT INSTANCE IT WOULD PROBABLY WOULD NOT MIMIC WHAT'S AT LAKESIDE.
CAUSE THE ONE THING YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGES AND 2D ON THE 2D VERSIONS WERE A LOT NARROW THAN WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY SHOWING IN THIS.
SO THAT'S JUST ONE THING WE'LL NEED TO RESOLVE AS WE START WORKING THROUGH THE PROPORTIONS OF IT.
IF THAT'S A DIRECTION YOU LIKE, JUST A QUESTION ON THIS.
WOULD THE LETTERS BE BACK AT NIGHT? THEY DEFINITELY COULD BE.
SO THEY WOULD STILL POP AND THEY'D BE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE SIGN.
THAT'S A TWO-SIDED SIGN UNLESS, UNLESS IT WAS, UM, LIKE IN THE VERSION WE SHOWING HERE, IF IT HAPPENED TO BE TURNED LIKE THIS WHERE IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE TWO-SIDED WE COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.
UM, THE OTHER WAY THESE COULD BE DONE AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON, THIS IS ALL GOING TO START TO COME DOWN FUND HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
CAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THE SAME LOOK.
UM, THE LIGHTING'S JUST REALLY ANY OF THE DISTRICT.
SO YOU COULD DO JUST EXTRUDED LETTERS ON THERE.
YOU COULD ACTUALLY, IF WE HAD TO GET DOWN TO THIS, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD JUST BE, UM, UH, VINYL LETTERS ON A PANEL IF THEY HAD TO BE, I MEAN, THEN YOU'RE JUST APPLYING IT.
SO IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, BUT IDEALLY WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP EVERYTHING IS A BOX THAT'S BACK OR INTERNALLY LIT SO THAT, UM, IT'S ALL CONTAINED WITHIN THE SIGN.
I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION AND THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR K A B AND STAFF, BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE MAKING THE DECISION AND IT'S A BUDGET THING, BUT MY, UH, I KINDA CHANGED MY OPINION ON WHICH STYLE OF SUN SINCE YOU'VE DONE IT THIS WAY.
BUT THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME AND I REALIZED THAT YOU'VE TRIED TO PUT EVERYTHING WITHIN A BLOCK TO SHOW IT TO US, BUT I CAN ALSO VISUALIZE ALL OF THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON A BLOCK.
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AS A DESIGN, I GUESS COMPETENT ENOUGH TO DO IT WITHOUT PUTTING A HEART ON EVERY SIGNAGE THAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE THE HEART IS A GREAT IDEA AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY LOVES IT, BUT YOU CAN ALMOST OVERDO SOMETHING TO WHERE IT NO LONGER LOOKS GOOD.SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS, IN THIS VERSION, UM, THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE COULDN'T DO LIKE THE OTHER BANNER POLE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE HEART ON IT.
THAT'S JUST A STRAIGHT POLL THAT YOU BANNERS AND THEN YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ON THE BANNERS.
UM, THE MONUMENT SIGNS THEMSELVES.
UH, I THINK THAT'S A COMMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, HAVE AN ANSWER FROM YOU GUYS, WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.
DO YOU WANT A VERSION OF WHAT THE HEART AND WITHOUT, UM, OR ARE THERE ONLY CERTAIN ONES WITH THE HEART ON IT, BUT THE SAME SIGN THAT'S KIND OF FEEDBACK THAT WE NEED FROM, FROM THE GROUP? UM, BECAUSE I THINK IT COULD HAPPEN EITHER WAY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CRAIG, YOU ARE CORRECT.
WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO, FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE VERSIONS AND THEN, UM, WE'LL JUST KIND OF OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION, BUT I'LL GIVE EVERYBODY A COUPLE OF DOTS, A COUPLE OF DOTS, THEN YOU CAN DO THE SAME DOT EXERCISE THAT WE DID LAST TIME, WHICH IS KIND OF PUT YOUR DOT ON THE FACE, YOUR, YOUR FAVORITE VERSION.
UM, BUT YEAH, ANY OTHER FEEDBACK YOU HAVE, LIKE THE HEART COMMENT OR THINGS LIKE THAT, LET US KNOW.
CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
UM, AND UH, GO BACK WITH WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT OF TODAY WOULD BE HOPEFULLY A DIRECTION THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, BUDGETING FOR MEGAN.
UM, SOMETHING WE COULD GO TO COUNCIL WITH WHAT THE DIRECTION, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO.
UM, AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S STUFF WE CAN'T ANSWER TODAY, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT ANOTHER WAY.
FOR EXAMPLE, THAT VIEW TO SAY HERE'S MINUS A COUPLE HEARTS AND HEARTS ARE ONLY IN, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNAGE OR WHATEVER.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS I THINK THIS ONE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY HALL SIGN, YOU, WE COULD HAVE A VERSION THAT HAS IT WITH IT AND WITHOUT IT, UM, THE SAME THING WITH, UH, THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE IS GOING TO HAPPEN A LOT.
UM, SO YOU COULD, YOU COULD GET SHOW WITH HIM WITHOUT, CAUSE I THINK THAT THOSE THINGS ON THOSE SPECIFIC SIGNS ARE APPLIED, UM, JUST TO REINFORCE THE THEME.
SO IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL FEEL THOSE AS WE GO
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SO THIS IS THE ONE NEGATIVE WAS TALKING ABOUT.SO WE TOOK SOME LIBERTIES WHEN WE WERE MODELING IT, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE OUT THERE, BUT IT IS UP HERE, BUT CONCEPT
UM, A LOT OF TIMES WITH THE LARGE ONES, UH, LARGE SIGNS AND MAYBE LIKE YOUR CITY HALL SIGNS OR DESTINATION SIGNS, THOSE WILL TYPICALLY HAVE SUPPORTING THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPE WITH THEM.
UM, CAUSE YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGES, THE ONES ON THE HIGHWAY HAVE A LOT OUR LANDSCAPE WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT JUST ASSIGNED STUCK OUT THERE.
WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK AT LIGHT POLES OR, UM, DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE OR PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY JUST SIGNS PLACED IN THE HARDSCAPE TO TELL PEOPLE WHERE TO GO.
SO THAT HELPS TOO ON BUDGETING.
SO YOU'RE NOT DOING AS MUCH AND TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE AND VACO SIGNS DON'T HAVE LIGHTING WITH THEM.
UM, THE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REFLECTIVE OR UM, JUST DAYLIGHT SIGNS.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE LIGHT EITHER.
SO THEY'RE MORE COST-EFFECTIVE
SO IT LOOKS LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE THREE THAT WERE ACTUALLY CHOSEN NOW.
SO LOOKING AT, I'M GOING TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
I'M LOOKING AT OPTION ONE A, WHEN EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THIS, DO YOU LIKE THE LIGHTER STONE OR THE DARKER STONE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS VERSION? THE LIGHTER
SO IT KIND OF REPLICATES THE POSTS MORE.
SO THAT TIES THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TIRED OF THE FAMILY.
THIS ONE PLAYS OFF THE COLOR OF THE PANELS, BUT USES A STONE.
BUT THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, SOME MORE OF THE RICHER STONE MATERIAL AS WE TALKED ABOUT AS A, AS AN OPTION.
SO IF, IF EVERYBODY LIKES THIS VERSION, MY QUESTION WAS, DO YOU LIKE THE LIGHTER STONE VERSION OR THE DARKER STONE VERSION? BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THAT OPTION.
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THAT'S THIS ONE HERETHE HIGH, LIKE ON LIKE ON THE SIGNS OR YEAH.
WELL, AND THESE, THE PROPORTION OF IT IS RELATIVE TO THE SIGN.
I GUESS WE COULD PLAY WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, DO YOU THINK IT'S TOO LARGE?
UM, SO THAT'S ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ONE OR FOUR AT THE MOST AT AN INTERSECTION.
UM, A LOT OF HIGHWAY INTERSECTION TOO.
SO, UM, AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, 40, 50, A HUNDRED FEET APART.
SO, UM, YOU WILL NEVER YOU'LL.
YOU'LL NEVER SEE THEM LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER LIKE THAT.
SO IT WON'T LOOK WHERE IT WOULD GET BACK TO WHAT SHE, WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT IS PROBABLY WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THE MOST, WHERE YOU HAVE A STREETSCAPE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE, THESE SIGNS ON ONE STREET.
THAT COULD BE WHERE IT WOULD GET A LITTLE REPETITIVE.
THAT WOULD BE MY COMMENT ABOUT THAT LAST ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE YOU SAID, THE LAST THREE SIGNS ON THAT FAMILY OR APPLICATIONS THAT COULD BE REMOVED EASILY, INCLUDING THE BANNERS.
I MEAN, YOU COULD JUST DO A DOUBLE BANNER AND ACTUALLY PROVIDE INFORMATION, HISTORICAL INFORMATION OR PICTURES OF DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE THOSE LIGHT POLES ARE LOCATED.
AND THEN THE CONCEPT OF HAVING THIS CORE BE A LIGHTING FEATURE THAT IS PURPLE.
AND EVEN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE AT ALL, BUT THE FIRST SIGN IN THAT FAMILY, THIS ONE BEING YES, A CUTOUT.
SO THAT, THAT CORE IS LIT CENTRALLY, BUT THEN ALSO SHINING THROUGH THE WORDS, ANGLETON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD DO THAT IN THAT STONE, IF NOT.
SO BE IT SO MOST LIKELY IF THIS IS A STONE, THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE EXTRUDED OR SETTLE.
SO THIS WOULD EITHER BE BACKLIT.
SO IT WOULD HAVE LIKE A GLOW TO IT OR THE FACE OF IT WOULD BE SOMETHING IT'D BE LIKE ACRYLIC THAT WOULD BE LIT.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU WOULD DO THAT.
UM, THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD WANT THE HEART TO LOOK LIKE IN THE DAYTIME.
IF YOU WANT IT TO SEEM LIKE A SILVER HEART, UM, THAT'S POPPED OFF THE SIGN, THEN THE FACE WOULD, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO LIGHT THE PLACE.
YOU WOULD WANT TO BACKLIGHT IT, LIKE IT'S SHOWN IN THIS IMAGE, BUT YEAH, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING IN THE STONE ITSELF.
IT WOULD ALL BE LIKE PIN MOUNTED.
SO THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF OFF THE FACE OF THE PANEL OR MY COMMENT ON THAT WOULD BE THAT THE WORD ANGLETON AND THE CORE BE BACKLIT.
HOWEVER YOU DO THAT, THE WORDS BE EXTRUDED.
IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD? I DON'T KNOW.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL HEART POTENTIALLY USING THE ENGRAVED CONCEPT ON THIS, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND JUST TO ANOTHER INPUT ON THE SECONDARY SIGN, THE PURPLE COLOR, I THINK YOU COULD, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE COURT IS STILL PURPLE ON THAT OPTION AS WELL, OR IS IT NOT BECAUSE IT HASN'T CUT OUT? NO, THE SECOND ONE, THIS ONE, THAT'S A THIRD, SECOND ONE IN THERE.
THIS IS THE SAME FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I WOULD LET THE FEATURE, THE PURPLE FEATURES BE THE LIGHT AND NOT THE ACTUAL HEART ITSELF AND THAT SECONDARY SIGN.
I WOULD KEEP THAT AS SILVER HEART.
SO THIS WOULD BE SILVER INSTEAD OF A PERFECT, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS WHITE BEHIND IT, OR HOW WOULD YOU MAKE IT? HOW WOULD YOU MAKE THE SILVER ON TOP OF THE LIGHTSTONE STAND NOW? WELL, DURING THE DAY IT WILL POP BECAUSE IT WILL REFLECT THE LINE.
UM, THAT'S ONE DIRECTION FOR ALL OF THIS.
WE COULD LOOK AT THE ONLY THING THAT'S ACTUALLY PURPLE IS THE LIGHT ITSELF.
UM, SO I MEAN THE ONLY THING ON HERE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S PURPLE THAT'S ACTUALLY IS THESE LETTERS, BUT THEY COULD BE THE SAME METAL OR THEY COULD BE WHITE SO THAT YOU COULD JUST USE PURPLE AS THE LIGHT AS THE ACCENT.
BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THINK ONE THING WE DID TALK ABOUT, UM, PREVIOUSLY IS THAT PURPLE IN ITSELF IN AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS ON A LARGE AMOUNT COULD BE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LAST AS LONG.
IT STARTS TO FADE, UM, QUICKER THAN SAY SOME OF THE NEUTRAL COLORS.
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ANY OTHER COMMENTS?UM, I THINK IT KEEPS THINGS FROM FEELING OVERWHELMING.
YOU CAN TAKE IT FOR LIKE A SAY BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE A GOOD CONCEPT AND OVERDO IT TO WHERE IT'S NO LONGER A GOOD CONCEPT.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MODIFICATION SINCE YOU'RE THE EXPERT, WE'LL LOOK TO YOU TO SOLVE IT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY TOO, THAT THE ONE THAT WE SELECT THAT HAS THE MOST VOTES, UM, I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT RETAINS SOME OF THE BRANDING.
UH, WHEREAS THE VERY FIRST ONE WE LOOKED AT, UH, DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH AS THE BRAND FEATURES THAT THE LATTER ONE DOES.
THE FIRST ONE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ABSTRACT, I WOULD SAY.
I WOULD A MORE MODERN INTERPRETATION OF IT.
YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE THOSE OPTIONS.
THE OTHER THING IT COULD BE TOO, AND YOU SEE THESE ALL OVER THE PLACE AS WELL.
IT COULD BE, UM, THEY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN THIS, THAT COULD BE PLANTERS AS WELL, BUT YOU'VE SEEN HANGING PLANTERS OFF INSTEAD OF, UH, IF YOU JUST WANTED, IF YOU LIKE THE SINGLE WITH, UH, SOMETHING ELSE, THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION OF THAT, BUT THAT BECOMES A MAINTENANCE QUESTION.
UH, I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF EXTRA WORK THOUGH.
SO CURRENTLY WE DO WRAP THE POLES WITH LIGHTS AND SO THAT WOULD STILL, UH, WE COULD STILL DECORATE FOR YEAH, CERTAINLY.
WE CAN, WE CAN FOCUS ON THE ONES THAT WE DO HAVE DOWN THERE TO THEME, IF YOU WILL, FOR SOME OF OUR ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING FOR THE BANNER PIECE OF IT, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT WE SHOOT SHOWED ORIGINALLY, OR IF YOU'VE SEEN, YOU CAN SEE THE BANNERS YOU HAVE HERE, THESE ARE MUCH LARGER SCALE.
UM, THE ONES YOU HAVE ARE KIND OF SMALL FOR THE STREET.
UM, SO YOU WILL GET A LOT MORE INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO ONES FOR EVENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU'D BE ABLE TO REALLY PRESENT THAT WELL.
AND WITH, IF YOU DO THE DOUBLE BANNERS, YOU COULD PROBABLY DO IT ON EXISTING POLES.
UH, AS OPPOSED TO LIKE FOR THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, IS CREATING A NEW POLL, UM, TO CREATE THAT
THAT REALLY STANDS OUT, STANDS OUT TO ME.
I LOVE THE CITY HALL HERE TOO, BUT I THINK Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB WITH ALL OF THESE OVERALL.
SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S GOOD IF IT MAKES IT HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO CHOOSE, RIGHT? NOPE.
I THINK THE ONE COMMENT, AND I DON'T WANT TO SWAY ANYBODY, BUT THE ONE COMMENT I WOULD HAVE
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THAT ABOUT THE DARK AND THAT'S WHY WE, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT WAS THIS THE SECOND ONE, RIGHT? BRANDON, THE REASON WE SHOWED THAT VERSION IN THIS IS THE ONE CONCERN WE DO HAVE WITH THIS, THIS PERSIAN IS AT NIGHT BECAUSE THOSE PANELS ARE GOING TO ABSORB THE LIGHT.AND IF YOU TRY TO DO THE PURPLE LIGHTING, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS EFFECTIVE.
UM, SO THAT'S REALLY OUR KIND OF ONE BIG CONCERN ABOUT THE DARK PANELS.
UM, AND YOU MAY HAVE TO DO IS JUST STRAIGHT UP WHITE LIGHT TO GET REALLY ANYTHING TO POP OFF THAT I DON'T CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CRAIG, BUT, BUT IN THE DAYTIME, IN THE DAYTIME, THEY OBVIOUSLY POP REALLY WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE, IT'S A DARK BACKGROUND WITH THE LIGHT DOING LIKE A LIGHT LETTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE QUESTION JUST TO, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE ARE SHOWING US UP APPLIED.
IF WE TRIED TO DO THE PURPLE, YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT.
UM, YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T REALLY DO NEON MUCH ANYMORE.
UM, THAT'S REALLY SPECIALIZED AND REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE.
UM, MOST OF THE LIGHTING WE DO IS ALL LED ONE, IT LASTS A LOT LONGER AND ALSO YOU CAN HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS WHERE YOU COULD DO THIS TO WHERE THOSE ARE ALL WHITE ACRYLIC PANELS AND YOU COULD DO MULTIPLE COLORS LIKE FOR HOLIDAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOT SAYING YOU WOULD DO THAT ON ALL YOUR SIGNS, BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT OPTION WITH LEDS
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE TRADITIONAL THAN THAT'S A LITTLE MORE MODERN.
YEAH, WELL, WE CAN DEFINITELY, I THINK IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE, LIKE, I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE THAT AND TAKE THE COMMENTS ON THOSE AND, YOU KNOW, EASILY TRANSLATE THAT INTO VERSIONS OF THOSE SIGNS.
SO YOU COULD SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO INSTALL THIS ONE WITH THE HEART HERE, BUT NOT HERE.
ONE THING THAT WOULD MAYBE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT TOO, IS LIKE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR THE VEHICULAR SIGNAGE, WHAT WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION WE WOULD EVER WANT ON ONE SIGN, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE, MAKE IT LOOK, BUT, UM, LEGIBLE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONLY SHOWING TWO LOCATIONS.
YOU COULD PROBABLY GET THREE PRETTY EASILY.
UM, IF IT'S MORE THAN THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT REALLY WORKS SINCE SAME THING ON THE SMALL DIRECTIONAL.
DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT WHAT WE DO ON ALL THESE SAVINGS, DO YOU THINK WE'RE SHOWING THAT, ARE THERE ANY SIGN TYPES THAT I KNOW WE'VE MENTIONED THE STREET SIGNS, WHICH IS, UM, ALWAYS SOMETHING, IT COULD FOLLOW THIS, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING OTHER SIGNAGE TYPES THAT YOU DON'T SEE THAT YOU SEE THEY'RE MISSING OR THAT YOU WOULDN'T NEED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NICE AND QUICK QUESTION.
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAST SIGN ON ALL OF THESE SIGNED FAMILIES, IS THAT THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE YOU WOULD BE USING FOR LIKE PARK MAPS AND NAVIGATION WITHIN A PARK, OR IS THAT SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, LIKE INFORMATIONAL SIGNAGE, RIGHT? OR LIKE A TRAIL SIGN OR WHAT HAVE YOU, LET'S YOU FEEL THAT ONE, CRAIG, THAT IS ANOTHER LAYER WHEN YOU START GETTING IN THE KIOSK TYPE SIGNS AND, UH, INTERPRETIVE EDUCATIONAL SIGNS, IT TENDS TO INTRODUCE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SIGN STRUCTURES AND THE FUNCTION SORT OF DRIVES THOSE.
SO WE'RE NOT REALLY DEALING WITH THOSE AT THIS LEVEL RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THE SORT OF LARGE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE.
AND ULTIMATELY IF THINGS EXPAND, WE COULD CERTAINLY EXPAND THOSE SIGN TYPES AS WELL.
SO THE KEY WITH THESE IS TO THINK ABOUT, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT AS LONG AS WE HOLD ON TO THE THEME, WE CAN MAKE WHATEVER SIGN TYPE YOU REALLY NEED.
UM, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOING THIS.
YOU DON'T WANT TO DO LIKE ONE-OFFS YEAH.
IS A STONE BASE ON THE THREE BS, IS THAT TO TIE IN WITH THE LAKESIDE PARK? YEAH.
SO WE ACTUALLY PULLED THAT ACTUAL MATERIAL FROM THE LAKESIDE STUFF.
SO, UM, CAUSE THE COMMENT I THINK WE HEARD WAS
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CAN WE PULL SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL LOOK AND FEEL FROM THAT PART, BUT ALSO GET SOME OF THE WARMER, RICHER MATERIALS.AND THAT WAS ONE WAY WE COULD DO IT WAS WITH THAT KIND OF STONE TYPE.
BUT THE VARIETY, THE, TO ME, THE VARIETY IN THAT STONE, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THAT KIND OF TEXTURE REALLY GIVES IT A LITTLE MORE WARMTH AND FEEL AND AN EARTHY THAN SAY JUST THE LARGE SLABS THAT'S LIKE ON THE OPTION ONE DAY IS THE TOP OF THE CITY HALL SIGN ON THAT ONE ARCH AS WELL AS KIND OF HARD TO SEE ON THAT WHITE ON WHITE.
IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE, SO MUCH OF THAT.
BUT YEAH, IT'S GOT A SLICE TOO.
AND YOU KNOW, THOSE SIGNS COULD HAVE ADDRESSES ON THEM AS WELL FOR WHATEVER THE DESTINATION IS.
BOTH OF THESE ARE THE, HAVE THE SAME STUCK ON THEM.
THE HEART'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON EACH AND THEN THE BASE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
THIS ONE HAS, THAT HAS THAT PURPLE STRIPE ON IT.
THIS ONE DOESN'T BUT LIKE HOW THE ONE SIDE IS HIGHER THAN THE OTHER KIND OF HAS THAT UPWARD FEELING TO IT VERSUS JUST AROUND IT.
SO MAYBE MAKE IT MORE PRONOUNCED.
I, I MEAN, I THINK THE TOP ONE IS, LOOKS MORE PRONOUNCED BECAUSE IT'S JUST EASIER TO SEE BASED OFF AGAINST THE WHITE AND THE GRAY OF THE BACKGROUND, LIKE THE TREE WAS GREEN, I'VE JUST FIGURED THIS IS A WINTER VERSION OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN SEND THAT OVER TO MEGAN AND YOU GUYS CAN SHARE IT AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THAT RESPONDS TO WHAT YOU NEED.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAYBE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT THEN, BECAUSE ONCE WE HAVE A DIRECTION LIKE THAT, THEN WE CAN START HELPING MEGAN DO SOME BUDGETING WITH WHAT THESE SIGNS WOULD ACTUALLY COST.