>> YEAH. ARE WE READY TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
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>> IT'S 5:30, WE'LL CALL THIS FIRST DAY OF MEETING OF THE PARKS BOARD.
ITEM NUMBER 1, MINUTES FROM REGULAR CALLED MEETING ON APRIL 12TH, 2021. [INAUDIBLE]
[1. Minutes from Regular Called meeting on April 12, 2021.]
>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES LABELED 12/2021.
WE HAVE SECOND? [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND.
TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[2. Discussion on Public Improvement Districts (PIDs), Tax Incremental Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ), and Municipal Utility Districts (MUDs) with P3 Works, LLC.]
>> [INAUDIBLE] ITEM 1 PASSES. READY FOR YOU AND ADAM TOO, MEGAN.
>> ITEM 2 IS DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, PIDS; TAX INCREMENTAL REINVESTMENT ZONE, TIRZ; AND MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS, MUDS, WITH P3 WORKS, LC.
THE CITY HAS JUST ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
I BELIEVE I SAW JOHN ON THE LINE.
>> I'M HERE. I'VE GOT MY SCREEN ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE ME OR NOT.
>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
I WAS ASKED TO GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON PIDS, MUDS, AND TIRZ, RATHER THAN GO THROUGH A [INAUDIBLE] I THOUGHT I'D JUST GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW, HIGHLIGHTING THE DIFFERENCES OF EACH, AND THEN LET YOU ALL ANSWER OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS SO THAT I CAN ANSWER THEM, THEN AT LEAST YOU GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
LET ME START WITH THE TIRZ BECAUSE PROBABLY THE ONE THAT'S THE MOST DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER TWO.
TIRZ IS A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS WE FORM A BOUNDARY AROUND A DESIGNATED AREA, TYPICALLY AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT, AND WE FREEZE THE PROPERTY VALUE AT WHATEVER THE CURRENT VALUE IS.
TYPICALLY, IF IT'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT, EFFECTIVELY GREEN FIELDS, YOU CAN THINK OF IT LIKE HAVING A ZERO VALUE, WHICH OFTENTIMES IT'S IN AG, IT WILL HAVE VERY CLOSE TO A ZERO VALUE.
THEN AS THEY COME IN AND DEVELOP AND THEY BUILD WHETHER IT'S HOUSES OR COMMERCIAL, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY BUILD, THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF ASSESS VALUE ON THE GROUND, AND THE CITY OR ALSO THE COUNTY CAN PARTICIPATE, CAN SAY WE'RE GOING TO DESIGNATE ANYWHERE FROM ZERO PERCENT TO A 100 PERCENT OF THAT INCREASE, THE INCREMENTS, OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES AND/OR SALES TAXES.
RATHER THAN COMING TO THE CITY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT GO INTO THIS TAX INCREMENT ACCOUNT AND IT CAN PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE OR REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER, OR IT CAN EVEN BE USED AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT.
THE TIRZ, IT HAS ITS USES BUT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE IT IS TAKING FUTURE DOLLARS AWAY FROM THE CITY.
THE CITY IS NOT GIVING UP ANY OF ITS EXISTING TAX REVENUE.
WHATEVER IT'S CURRENTLY GETTING, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET, BUT ANY INCREASE IN VALUE IS NOW GOING TO BE GOING TO THE TIRZ RATHER THAN TO THE GENERAL FUND TO FUND CITY OPERATIONS.
WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE TIRZ BE REAL SUCCESSFUL IS IN CASES WHERE THERE'S A LARGE REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE ITEM THAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO SEE AND THE CITY WANTS TO SEE, BUT IT REALLY WOULDN'T TYPICALLY BE BORN BY THE DEVELOPER.
IN THOSE CASES, THE DEVELOPER SAYS, "I'LL AGREE TO PUT THE MILLION DOLLAR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS IN, BUT REALLY IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFITING THIS WHOLE AREA OF THE CITY," AND SO THE CITY SAYS, "THAT'S OKAY, WE'LL PAY YOU BACK WITH THE TIRZ MONEY OVER TIME." THAT WAY, INDIRECTLY, THE CITY IS PAYING FOR IT OUT OF THE FUTURE VALUE THAT'S BEING GENERATED BY THIS PROJECT.
THE DEVELOPER IS THE ONE FRONTING THE MONEY AND TAKING THE RISK PUTTING IT IN, BUT THEN THEY EVENTUALLY GET RECOUPED THE COST OVER TIME.
WE'VE SEEN THAT WITH BRIDGES OVER RAILROAD CROSSINGS, LIKE I SAID, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S FOR LARGE REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE'VE ALSO SEEN IT USED FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE CITY JUST REALLY WANTS TO SEE COMMERCIAL, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES THAT THE CITY OFFERS.
IT'S ALSO BEEN USED FOR RESIDENTIAL.
THE WARNING I ALWAYS GIVE ON THAT IS, I'VE HEARD 20 OF FINANCE DIRECTORS REGRET GIVING THE TIRZ ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THE SERVICES THAT ARE REQUIRED.
BY THE TIME YOU PROVIDE POLICE AND FIRE AND PUBLIC WORKS, YOUR RESIDENTIAL IS FAIRLY EXPENSIVE, AND SO IF YOU GAVE UP HALF OF YOUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, YOU MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO FULLY SERVE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S EFFECTIVELY BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE REST OF THE CITY.
WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S PRETTY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW, BUT IF I CAN GET THROUGH THE OTHER OTHER TWO AND THEN WE CAN COMPARE AND CONTRAST A LITTLE BIT.
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>> JOHN, WE DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE TIRZ.
>> [INAUDIBLE] ONE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, I THINK IT WAS ISSUED LAST YEAR, THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT DOWN IN RIVERWOOD RANCH, AND THEY HAVE A PID I THINK IT'S 12.2 MILLION, AND THEY ALSO GOT A TIRZ, I THINK 28 PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY TAX, WENT BACK TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, IT'S A DOUBLE-DIP FOR WHATEVER REASON IT WAS CHOSEN.
MY CONCERN IS WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
LET'S SAY A QUARTER PERCENT OF THE TAX REVENUE IS REMOVED FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT AND ON THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT'LL BE ROUGHLY 80 HOMES, SO YOU HAVE 80 HOMES IN A SUBDIVISION THAT IS GETTING CITY SERVICES: POLICE, FIRE, WATER, SEWER, PARKS, EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO A CITY SERVICES, IS NO LONGER IN THE GENERAL FUND TO MAINTAIN THAT SO SOMEBODY ELSE HAS OWN A RESIDENTIAL TYPE PROJECT.
IT WOULD SEEM THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN EVERY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN IF YOU HAVE CRUMBLING STREETS OR INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU'RE NOW SUBSIDIZED IN A QUARTER OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M LOOKING IT WRONG, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS TO ME ON A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.
>> THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT I WAS ALLUDING TO.
THE ONE THING THAT CAN MAKE UP FOR IT, AND I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE RIVERWOOD PROJECTS OR FRANKLY THE CITY IN GENERAL.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S REAL ROUND NUMBERS, BUT IF A PROJECT COMES IN AND SAYS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD $300,000 HOUSES AND THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IN THE CITY IS 200,000, BY BUILDING THE LARGER HOUSES, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE PER HOME.
IN THAT CASE, THE CITY MAY BE ABLE TO CURVE OFF A LITTLE BIT OF THE AD VALOREM REVENUE AND STILL BE GENERATING AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY WOULD HAVE FROM THE $200,000 HOMES THAT ARE EXISTING IN THE CITY.
THERE IS WIGGLE ROOM OCCASIONALLY ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE HIGHER PRICED HOMES, BUT OTHERWISE, I THINK YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT CORRECTLY.
THAT'S WHY RESIDENTIAL IS ALWAYS CHALLENGING WITH THE TIRZ.
BUT AGAIN, OCCASIONALLY THERE'S GOOD REASONS TO DO IT WHETHER IT'S REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE OR OVER SIZING OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IT REALLY IS A WORK POLICY ISSUE.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT TIRZ ARE NOT UNCOMMON ON RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE I HEARD LIKE SAY FINANCE DIRECTORS REGRET OCCASIONALLY DOING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT I SAID TO YOU, "THIS IS GETTING EXPENSIVE," IT'S MORE COMMON TO SEE IT ON LARGER PROJECTS.
WE HAVE SEVERAL OF OUR CLIENTS THAT HAVE ENTERED INTO TIRZ ON MAYBE A 2,000 ACRE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, AND BY THE TIME THAT THING IS BUILT OUT, IT'S A QUARTER OF THE CITY, AND SO GETTING UP 50 PERCENT OF THE AD VALOREM OR WHATEVER WAS NEGOTIATED.
IT CAN PROBABLY START TO PERK FINANCES OVER TIME.
>> WOULD THE CITY BE ABLE TO PUT [INAUDIBLE] AGENDA DOCUMENT OF THE TIRZ SAYING, [NOISE] "THAT MONEY HAS TO BE DIRECTED.
FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WANT TO USE IT TO LOWER A PID FEE OR USE IT TO SOMEHOW SUPPLEMENT THE COST SO THEY COULD BUILD LESSER EXPENSIVE HOMES, WOULDN'T THAT BE IN THE WORDING OF THE TIRZ THAT THE MONEY HAS TO BE DIRECTED FOR THAT AND NOT FOR WHAT THE DEVELOPER CHOOSES TO DO WITH IT?"
>> YES. THE TIRZ PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN WILL OUTLINE EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR, AND, THERE'S REALLY TWO POSSIBLE SCENARIOS THAT I COME ACROSS PRETTY FREQUENTLY.
THE FIRST IS IT JUST PAYS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE DIRECTLY.
THE DEVELOPER GOES OUT, INSTALLS THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN IS GETTING REPAID OVER THE LIFE OF THE TIRZ, WHETHER IT'S 20 YEARS OR 30 YEARS, WHATEVER THE TERM WAS SET.
THE OTHER IS THEY ISSUE PID BONDS.
IF THE ANNUAL INSTALLMENT TO A HOMEOWNER WAS GOING TO BE $1,500 AND WE THINK THE TIRZ IS GOING TO GENERATE 500, WE ONLY BILL EACH HOMEOWNER $1,000 ANNUALLY.
WE EFFECTIVELY BUY THAT RATE DOWN, IS THE OTHER APPROACH.
>> ANYONE READY FOR THE PIDS AND MUDS DISCUSSIONS? [OVERLAPPING]
>> EXCELLENT. FULL DISCLOSURE, MY COMPANY IS SELLING SHARES, P3WORKS.
WE USED TO BE CALLED PID WORKS.
BUT THEN EVERYBODY IS ASKING US TO DO TOURS AND STUFF AS WELL, SO WE RENAMED OURSELVES P3.
WE DON'T DO A WHOLE LOT OF WORK IN MUDS, BUT I KNOW ENOUGH TO BE DANGEROUS.
IF YOU HAVE REAL SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL PROBABLY WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM, BUT I MAY SAY, I NEED TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT AND CHECK IN WITH THE WISDOM OF MY ATTORNEY FRIENDS.
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THAT'S MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT.THERE ARE SEVERAL VARIATIONS OUT THERE.
FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICTS, WCIDS, WHICH ARE WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.
THEY'RE ALL UNDER THE TEXAS WATER CODE AND PEOPLE GENERALLY JUST REFER TO ALL OF THEM AS MUDS.
WHAT MUDS ARE, IS THEY ARE ACTUALLY SEPARATE POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS IN THE STATES.
WHEN YOU FORM A MUD, YOU ACTUALLY ARE CREATING A SEPARATE BOARD AND THEY'RE OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THE CONTROL OF A CITY.
THE CITY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF SAY IN THE BEGINNING TO SAY I WILL MAYBE CONSENT TO THE FORMATION OF THE MUD.
BUT AFTER THAT, BASICALLY THE MUD BOARD IS TYPICALLY A DEVELOPER CONTROL BOARD.
THAT BOARD IS GOING TO VOTE FOR THE TAX THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LEVY AND THEY'LL VOTE IN A BOND AUTHORIZATION.
THEY TYPICALLY, I THINK A DOLLAR TO A $1.50.
IT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST COMMON TAX THAT'S VOTED IN.
THE MUD IS GOING TO CHARGE A TAX JUST LIKE THE CITY DOES OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THAT'S LEVIED ON ALL PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AS ASSESS VALUE COMES ON, HOMES ARE BUILT, THEN THEY GO OUT AND ISSUE BONDS EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
TYPICALLY, IT'S WATER, SEWAGE, DRAINAGE, BUT YOU CAN INCLUDE PARKS.
IN SOME CASES, THEY'RE JUST LIMITATIONS ON WHAT YOU CAN FIND IN TERMS OF DOLLAR AMOUNT.
I THINK THAT ANY BONDS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING FOR RECREATION FACILITIES CAN ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR ONE PERCENT OF THE TAXABLE VALUE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
I THINK IN BRASILIA COUNTY, I BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY NEED VOTER AUTHORIZATION WITHIN THE DISTRICT TO ACTUALLY ISSUE BONDS FOR PARK AND RECREATION IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT THEY ARE UNLIMITED TAX BONDS AND IT HAS AN AD VALOREM TAX.
IF YOUR HOME VALUE DOUBLES, YOUR TAXES ARE GOING TO DOUBLE.
IT'S NOT A CONSTANT THOUSAND DOLLAR OR YOUR PAYMENT, IT'S BASICALLY IT WILL SAY WE'RE LEVYING A DOLLAR TAX.
IF YOU A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE, IT'S GOING TO BE TWICE AS EXPENSIVE AS A $500,000 HOUSE.
JUST IT GOES UP PROPORTIONALLY.
EVENTUALLY, THE DEVELOPERS WILL GET REPAID 100 PERCENT OF THEIR COSTS.
THAT'S HOW THEY SET IT UP, BECAUSE THEY'LL CONTINUE ISSUING BONDS UNTIL THE PROJECTS BUILT OUT.
THEN AFTER THE PROJECT'S BUILT OUT, THEY'LL WAIT FOR SOME JUST PRICE APPRECIATION OF THE HOMES TO COME IN AND CONTINUE TO ISSUE BONDS UNTIL THOSE BONDS THAT ARE REPAID.
THEY'RE GOVERNED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, TCQ, SO THAT THERE ARE PRETTY STRICT RULES IN PLACE ABOUT WHEN BONDS CAN BE ISSUED AND WHAT THE TIMELINES ARE.
THEY'RE GENERALLY MORE BACK-END LOADED.
AGAIN, THE DEVELOPER IS PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN AFTER YOU HAVE A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER OF ROOFTOPS, THEY'RE STARTING TO ISSUE BONDS AND THEY JUST CONTINUE BUILDING ON THAT ADDITIONAL VALUE.
ONE THING THAT'S BEEN A BIT OF A CHALLENGE WITH MUDS IS, IF IT'S OUT IN THE PROJECTS ETJ, IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO ANNEX THE MUD, IT ALSO HAS TO ABSORB WITH THAT.
THAT'S CAUSE SOME SMALLER CITIES TO MUD FALLEN OUT OF FAVOR BECAUSE IT'S REALLY LIMITED THEIR ABILITY TO GROW BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF MUDS AND THEY CAN'T ABSORB THAT DEBT.
NOW WITH THE NEW ANNEXATION LAW, IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE BETTER GOAL.
FOR THAT REASON, A LOT OF THE CITIES HAVE BEEN TURNING TO THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON MUDS? I KNOW EVERYONE'S PROBABLY PRETTY FAMILIAR, JUST GIVEN THEIR PREVALENCE IN THE HOUSTON AREA.
>> THE LAST ONE IS THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
PIDS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE AWHILE, I'D SAY NORTH OF 20 YEARS.
BUT THERE WAS SOME ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS THAT MADE USING THEM PRETTY DIFFICULT AND REALLY IN TERMS OF ACCESSING THE BOND MARKET.
BUT IN 2005, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE CLEARED SOME OF THOSE ISSUES UP, AND THE FIRST BOND WAS ISSUED IN 2007 IN TROPHY CLUB, TEXAS, SO NEAR DALLAS.
SINCE THEN, THERE'S BEEN ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS IF IT BONDS HAD BEEN ISSUED.
I THINK THIS YEAR THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE NORTH OF 200, PROBABLY 250 MILLION THIS YEAR ALONE.
IT'S RAPIDLY GROWING AND THEIR USE IS FAIRLY COMMON NOW.
MOST OF THEM ARE IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA OR THE DALLAS, FORT WORTH MARKET.
THERE'S A HANDFUL DOWN IN SAN ANTONIO AND JUST A SMALL HANDFUL IN THE HOUSTON MARKET, BUT IT DEFINITELY BECOMING MORE PREVALENT.
THE DIFFERENCE IS, IT'S A CITY CONTROL BOARD.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE BOARD OF THE PIT,
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SO YOU DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPER CONTROL BOARD.NOW, CITY COUNCIL CONTROL THE WHOLE PROCESS.
THE PIDS HAVE A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT THEY COULD FINANCE.
GENERALLY, IF IT'S PUBLIC, IT CAN GENERALLY BE FINANCED WITH THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.
THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM WATER, SEWER, STREETS, DRAINAGE, LANDSCAPING, PARKS.
A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER OR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, BUT THEY'RE TECHNICALLY OWNED BY THE CITY.
WE'LL HAVE A DETENTION BOND OR WATER QUALITY BOND.
THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE MAINTENANCE.
THE CITY WILL TYPICALLY OWN THE FACILITY, BUT THEN THEY'LL ENTER INTO A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE HOA, AND THE HOA MAINTAINS IT IN PERPETUITY.
THEN WE SEE THAT A LOT OF TIMES, BUT WITH PARKS AND LANDSCAPING AS WELL WHERE THAT'S ALL MAINTAINED [NOISE] BY THE HOA, BUT IT HAS TO BE PUBLICLY OWNED AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL THE CITY RESIDENTS, AND IT'S NOT AN UNLIMITED TAX.
WHEN THE CITY LEVIES THE ASSESSMENTS ON PROPERTY, THEY LEVY THE ASSESSMENT UPFRONT.
AGAIN, USING ROUND NUMBERS, WE'LL PUT A $10,000 ASSESSMENT ON A 50-FOOT LOT, AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS TWO OPTIONS: THEY CAN PAY IT IN FULL, OR THEY CAN FINANCE IT OVER 30 YEARS.
TYPICALLY, THERE'S BONDS THAT ARE SOLD, AND SO THEY'LL PAY MAYBE $800 A YEAR FOR 30 YEARS OR THEY'LL PAY THE $10,000 IN FULL.
IT'S SO SIMILAR TO A MORTGAGE ON A HOUSE.
YOU CAN PAY YOUR HOUSE OFF IN FULL, OR YOU CAN FINANCE IT OVER 30 YEARS.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S INTERESTS BUILT-IN.
RIGHT NOW INTEREST RATES ON PID BONDS ARE IN THE 4-4.5 PERCENT RANGE RANGE, SO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN A MORTGAGE, BUT IT'S STILL PRETTY CHEAP DEBT.
THE ASSESSMENTS RUN WITH THE LAND.
IF I'M A PROPERTY OWNER AND I COME BUY INTO A PID, IT HAS TO BE DISCLOSED TO ME.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A NEW LEGISLATION THAT JUST PASSED THIS PAST SESSION THAT REQUIRES EXACTLY THE DETAILS OF WHAT HAS TO BE SPELLED OUT, BUT YOU'LL SIGN IT AT CLOSING, UNDERSTAND THAT YOU OWE $10,000 ON THE PROPERTY AND IT'LL BE PAID IN ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS.
THEN IF I ONLY LIVE IN THAT HOUSE FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN I SELL IT, THE OBLIGATION TRANSFERS ONTO TO THE NEW OWNER.
REALLY YOU'RE JUST PAYING FOR THE BENEFIT YOU'RE RECEIVING WHILE YOU'RE THERE.
TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE. I THINK ON THE PITS, THE CITIES, THEY LIKE THEM BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIMES IT'S A CARROT TO ANNEX FOLKS, SO THEY'RE SAYING TO THE DEVELOPER WHO NO LONGER MAYBE WANTS TO VOLUNTARILY ANNEX.
THEY SAY, "LOOK AT YOUR ANNEX.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A PID IN RETURN." THEN THE OTHER BIG INCENTIVE AND I KNOW THE CITY RIGHT NOW HAS DRAFTED A PID POLICY AND A LOT OF TIMES WHAT THE PID POLICY IS, IT'LL CONTAIN PROVISIONS SAYING THAT WE WANT TO SEE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING OR PARK IMPROVEMENTS OR THINGS THAT ARE ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHATEVER THE CITY DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE REQUIRING THAT AS PART OF THE PID.
THAT CAN BE DONE WITHIN THE PID OR OUTSIDE OF THE PID.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS YOU CAN HAVE THE PID PAY FOR THE LANDSCAPING OR PARK IMPROVEMENTS DIRECTLY, OR MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT ISN'T THE PID ELIGIBLE FACILITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FOR INSTANCE.
THE DEVELOPER WILL CUT A CHECK OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET TO THE CITY TO USE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND IN RETURN, THEY GOT A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND WERE ABLE TO GET THE BOND DOLLARS UPFRONT.
IT'S REALLY BEEN INDIVIDUAL NEGOTIATION WITH THE DEVELOPER ON EACH TRANSACTION.
>> HI JOHN, I JUST HEARD, FOR THE BOARD, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CHRIS AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT RECENTLY, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JOHN, IS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS AN ADDITION TO OR DUE TO THE PID AGREEMENT, WE CAN ASK FOR A PROJECT.
LET'S SAY WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ITEMS AS IT RELATES TO THE PARKS AND MASTER PLAN.
IF WE NEED DOLLARS TO REDESIGN THE MUNICIPAL POOL, WE CAN ASK A DEVELOPER TO FUND THAT PROJECT, CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT EXAMPLE.
THE PID BY LAW, WE CAN ONLY ASSESS FOR THE BENEFIT RECEIVED BY THE RESIDENTS.
IF WE HAVE A HOUSE, IT'S REALLY EASY TO SAY, OKAY, THE PID IS GOING TO PAY FOR 100 PERCENT OF INTERNAL WATER, SEWER STREETS THAT ARE BENEFITING.
THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE ANOTHER DRIVEWAY.
THEY TURN ON THE FAUCET, IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE HEIGHTS.
IT MAKES IT VERY EASY TO DO THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, SAY, A COMMUNITY SWIMMING POOL THAT'S TWO MILES AWAY FROM THE PROJECT, WE CAN'T ALLOCATE 100 PERCENT OF THAT COST TO THIS DISTRICT.
YOU'D HAVE TO ALLOCATE IT OVER THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AND SO THAT THE PID WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO PAY FOR A VERY SMALL PORTION, BUT THEY COULD PAY FOR MORE THAN A PORTION IF YOU DO IT OUTSIDE OF IT AND IT'S DONE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, DEVELOPER, YOU HAVE TO CUT.
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WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A $10 MILLION PID, BUT IN RETURN, YOU NEED TO CUT A ONE MILLION DOLLAR CHECK TO THE CITY FOR THEIR POOL IMPROVEMENT.THAT, AGAIN, IS FAIRLY COMMON.
>> THAT IS SEPARATE FROM PARKLAND DEDICATION OF FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND IN PARKLAND COMMUNITY.
>> YEAH, IT'S ENTIRELY SEPARATE.
YOU'RE GETTING PID DOLLARS AND IN RETURN, WHAT IS THE CITY GETTING?
>> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS IF YOU'VE GOT A MOMENT.
>> IN MY BUSINESS, I DEVELOP AND BUILD HOMES AS WELL.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THEIR PIDS COME ACROSS MY DESK THROUGH THEIR DIFFERENT TRADE ASSOCIATIONS, BUT THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE PAST.
THEY STIPULATE THAT A PID SHOULD PROVIDE A HIGHER-QUALITY DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE IMPROVED MANATEES, WHERE THERE'S SPLASH PADS, POOLS, AND RECREATION SITE WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING EXCEPTIONAL THAT YOU'RE ASKING THE RESONANCE TO PAY FOR THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN DONE OTHERWISE.
SOMETIMES SOME OF THE PIDS THAT I'VE SEEN, THEY'LL GET ONE BECAUSE THEY ARE RUNNING INFRASTRUCTURE TO AN AREA THAT'S NEEDED.
THE CITY COOPERATES ON THAT OR RUNNING AN ARTERIAL ROAD THAT'S NEEDED, SO THEY'LL FINANCE IT.
THE PROBLEM, I SEE IN ANGLETON, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY OF THAT.
THE PIDS ARE BEING USED AS AN INCENTIVE TO ENTICE DEVELOPERS INTO OUR AREA.
THERE IS NOTHING EXCEPTIONAL ABOUT ANY OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE GETTING.
IN FACT, ALMOST ALL OF THEM DIDN'T MEET OUR MINIMUM ZONING REQUIREMENTS, SO WE HAD TO GIVE THEM A VARIANCE, BUT THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING AN ACRE.
THEY'RE NOT COMBINED, THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING AN ACRE OR PARKS, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING EXCEPTIONAL.
I GUESS A QUESTION I HAVE IS, JUST RIVERWOOD RANCH AGAIN.
I'M USING THAT BECAUSE THAT ONE IS, FIX AND START DEVELOPING.
THE CITY TAX, THE COMBINED EQUIVALENT TAX IS DOUBLE THE CURRENT CITY TAX.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE MOVING IN, AND THEY'RE PAYING TWICE THE TAXES, BUT FOR 30 YEARS.
MY CONCERN IS WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF THESE COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT WANT THE RESIDENTS TO PAY FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
MARKETING HOUSES FOR 30 YEARS, I FEEL THE HIGH-TAX STIGMA OF ANGLETON, WE'RE ALWAYS ASKED ONE OF THE COUNTY AND IT WAS DIFFICULT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE NOW IF YOU HAD THE MAJORITY OF YOUR NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVING HIGHER TAXES THAN OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, SOME ICONS LOOK AT A HOME IN ANGLETON AND THEY SAY, WELL, I WON'T PAY $2,000 MORE A YEAR IN TAXES FOR THE IDENTICAL HOUSE IN RICHWOOD, ROSENBERG, ALBA, AND PEARLAND.
THAT CONCERNS ME THAT THAT COULD COME INTO FRUITION BECAUSE WE WENT FROM WORKING ON GETTING OUR TAXES DOWN TO NOW, WE'RE DOUBLING THEM IN MANY OF THE COMMUNITIES.
FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING OF PID TAX IN THESE ONES THAT WE'RE BUILDING THAT NOW PROVIDE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SUBDIVISION IN THE COMMUNITY THERE, IT'S A FINANCING TOOL FROM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM A 20-30 YEAR TERM.
THE RESIDENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY PAY THE PID TAXES TO FINANCE THAT PROJECT, BUT WHEN THE DEVELOPER'S SELLOUT IS LARGE, FOR INSTANCE, THE RIVERWOOD RANCH, LIKE I SAID IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE ROUGHLY $20 MILLION WORTH A LOT.
WHEN THEY MAKE THE SELL ON ALL THEIR LAST TO THEIR BUILDERS, DO THEY HAVE TO APPLY ANY OF THAT $20 MILLION TOWARD THE $12 MILLION PID OR IS THAT $20 MILLION JUST ADDED PROFIT?
>> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS ON RIVERWOOD YET, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF LINES IN YOUR QUESTION THERE.
THE FIRST ONE ON THE TOTAL TAX RATE, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT EXACTLY RIGHT.
AGAIN, THE HOUSTON MARKET IS DIFFERENT JUST BECAUSE OF THE PREVALENCE OF MODS.
THE TAX RATES IN HOUSTON, SINCE THEY ARE THE UNLIMITED TAX, IT GENERALLY IS QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN THE REST OF THE STATE.
TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, IN DALLAS-FORT WORTH, AS WELL AS THE AUSTIN AREA, THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS THAT YOUR TOTAL TAX RATE, INCLUSIVE OF A PID OR A MOD, NEEDS TO BE RIGHT AROUND THREE DOLLARS.
IT CAN BE THREE DOLLARS. USUALLY, IF YOU GO TO 3, 10, THAT'S A HIGH WATERMARK.
NO ONE IS WILLING TO GO ABOVE THAT.
THERE'S A HANDFUL OF CASES WHERE YOU'VE GONE ABOUT 3, 10, BUT I MEAN, I COULD COUNT THEM ON ONE HAND.
IF YOU LOOK AT PIDS, GENERALLY, I'D SAY 50 PERCENT OF THEM, IF NOT MORE, ARE IN THAT THREE DOLLARS, THE 3, 10 RANGE, MAYBE TWO OR THREE PERCENT ARE HIGHER THAN THAT, AND THE OTHERS ARE IN THE 2, 70 TO THREE-DOLLAR RANGE.
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AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT IS ACTUALLY DEVELOPER-DRIVEN.YOU'LL SEE DISCREPANCIES, IF IT'S A DEVELOPER WHO ISN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR SELLING HOUSES, THEY TEND TO TRY TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE BECAUSE THEY'LL SELL OFF THE HOME BUILDERS, AND THEN IT'S THE BUILDER'S PROBLEM.
BUT IF WE'RE WORKING WITH A HOME BUILDER WHO'S ALSO DEVELOPING, THEY'RE TYPICALLY VERY COGNIZANT OF WHAT THEIR TOTAL TAX RATE IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SELL THESE HOMES AND THEY KNOW THE QUESTIONS GOING TO COME OUT.
IT'S REALLY GOING OUT AND DOING A SURVEY OF THOSE COMMUNITIES.
YOU JUST REFERENCED AND SAYING, WHAT IS THE EQUIVALENT TAX RATE THAT'S BEING CHARGED ELSEWHERE? IN ROSENBERG OR PEARLAND, DO THEY HAVE MODS, AND WHAT ARE THEIR CITY, COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT MOD RATES ALL IN? FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, 350 IS NOT UNCOMMON IN THIS PART OF THE STATE.
IT'S THEN SIZING THE PID TO SAY, "OKAY, WE CAN BE COMPETITIVE WITH THESE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES." AGAIN, IT'S AN ASSESSMENT, SO IT'S NOT A TAX RATE, BUT WE KNOW THAT $1000 A YEAR PAYMENT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A 50 PERCENT PAYMENT, FOR INSTANCE.
WE CAN EQUATE IT TO AN EQUIVALENT TAX RATE AND ENJOY IT AT THAT WORD.
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT ENTIRE RATE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO GO IN AND HAVE THE PIDS AND BE AT FIVE DOLLARS PER $100 VALUE BECAUSE THE TAXES ARE GONNA BE MORE THAN THE MORTGAGE PAYMENT AT THAT POINT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE DISCLOSURE STATEMENTS.
FROM MY EXPERIENCE, [NOISE] EXCUSE ME, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS IN COMMUNITIES.
I KNOW CORPUS AND LEANDER, AUSTIN, DALLAS, A BUNCH OF OTHER CITIES HAVE CHANGED THEIR DISCLOSURE POLICY WHERE, AS YOU MENTIONED, SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD SELL THE HOUSE TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IT, THAT THERE IS AN ASSESSMENT FOR 30 YEARS ON THAT PROPERTY.
THE PROBLEM WITH DISCLOSURES AT CLOSING, I'VE BEEN THROUGH HUNDREDS OF CLOSINGS AND YOU HAVE A STACK OF PAPERS THAT PARTICULARLY A FIRST-TIME HOME-BUYER DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT NINE PERCENT OF A MAIN.
IF A CLOSING AGENT COMES IN, HANDS A PAPER SAID, "THIS WAS A TRUTH-IN-LENDING STATEMENT.
THIS THE STATEMENT. THIS IS THE DISCLOSURE FOR A PID." THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SIGN IT AND MOVE ON.
A NUMBER OF THESE OTHER CITIES I MENTIONED HAVE GONE TO SIGNAGE AT ENTRANCES AND EXITS TO THE SUBDIVISION.
ANY LISTINGS ON HIGH, ANY REAL ESTATE SITES, THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE PID ASSESSMENTS INFORMATION PACKETS THAT YOU PICK UP THAT MODEL HOMES.
THEY HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT THERE IS AN ASSESSMENT TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S BEEN DOZENS OF LAWSUITS WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW AND THEY SUED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE BUILDERS, OR THE DEVELOPERS.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PIDS DOWN HERE, NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU LIVE IN THE CITY, WHETHER YOU'RE COMING.
THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, WHETHER THEY'RE REAL ESTATE BROKERS OR PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY DOWN HERE, THEY WERE NOT AWARE THIS WAS COMING IN.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HILLTOP SECURITIES SENT OUT A OVERVIEW OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.
I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM, BUT THE CITY, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THINGS IN [BACKGROUND] THERE THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE CITY TO USE.
I THINK THE CITY IS TRYING TO PUT A POLICY TOGETHER BY NEXT MONTH, SOMETIME IN JULY BECAUSE WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A GOOD POLICY.
BUT DISCLOSURE IS A PROBLEM THAT'S OCCURRING ALL ACROSS THE STATE WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY AN EXTRA $1000, $2000, WHATEVER IT IS, A YEAR, TO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S JUST THERE.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT HERE AS WELL.
WE DON'T RUN INTO THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY GET ANGRY WHEN THEIR ESCROW IS SHORT AND THEY'RE TOLD THEY HAVE TO WRITE A CHECK FOR THAT PID AMOUNT.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT ANYWHERE.
>> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THAT.
WE HAVE A VERY GOOD DISCLOSURE FORM.
THE DISCLOSURE THAT CURRENTLY IS REQUIRED BY STATUTE IS REALLY VERY WEAK.
IT JUST SAYS I BOUGHT A HOUSE IN AUSTIN.
I'M NOT IN A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
I SIGNED A DISCLOSURE SAYING YOU MAY BE IN A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
I WAS CURIOUS, I ASKED EVERYBODY AT THE CLOSING, ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THIS IS, AND NO ONE HAD AN IDEA.
I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT ON THAT.
ESPECIALLY IN HOUSTON WHERE THEY'RE NOT AS PREVALENT, IT'S PROBABLY EVEN MORE SO.
OUR DISCLOSURE THAT WE PROVIDE, IT DOESN'T JUST SAY, YOU MAY BEGIN A BID AND HAVE VERY GENERIC LANGUAGE.
IT SAYS YOU'RE IN A BID WITH BIG BOLD LETTERS.
HERE'S THE TOTAL OUTSTANDING ASSESSMENT AND THERE'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND THEN THERE'S A SCHEDULE BEHIND SHOWING HERE'S WHAT YOUR 30 YEARS OF PAYMENTS LOOK LIKE.
IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY HARD TO OVERLOOK IT LIKE I THINK SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DISCLOSURES HAD DONE.
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IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE READ SOME OF THESE ARTICLES THEN RAN INTO SOME DIFFICULTIES ON THE DISCLOSURES WHERE THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE REAL GOOD DISCLOSURES AND THEY GOT SUED.THEY'RE A BIG PROPONENT OF USING PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.
THEY ACTUALLY WENT TO THE LEGISLATURE, AND IT WAS HOUSE BILL 1543 IF YOU WANT TO LOOK IT UP.
THEY EFFECTIVELY TOOK OUR DISCLOSURE, IT IS NOW INSERTED IN THE PIT STATUTE.
NOW EVERYBODY HAS TO USE OUR FORM OF DISCLOSURE THAT IT'LL SPELL OUT EXACTLY WHAT IS THERE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT IT STILL REQUIRES THE SCHEDULE OF INSTALLMENTS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT IT ALSO HAS THINGS THAT IF I'M A HOME BUILDER AND I SELL A HOME, I PUT A CONTRACT ON A HOUSE WITH JOHN SMITH AND I DON'T DISCLOSE IT WHEN HE'S SIGNING HIS CONTRACT, HE CAN WALK THE CONTRACT AT ANYTIME WITH NO PENALTY.
THEN IF HE GETS TO THE CLOSING TABLE [NOISE] AND IT'S STILL NOT PROVIDED TO HIM, AND HE CLOSES, HE CAN COME BACK AND THE LAW NOW SAYS YOU CAN GO AFTER THE SELLER AND SAY YOU NEED TO PAY OFF MY ASSESSMENT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DISCLOSE IT TO ME.
THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT MORE TEETH IN HERE ON THE DISCLOSURE SIDE OF THINGS.
I'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW IT IS ACTUALLY PLAYED OUT BECAUSE WE CAN CONTROL THE DEVELOPER DISCLOSING THE HOME BUILDERS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE HOME BUILDERS HAVE THE PROPER FORMS FOR WHEN THEY'RE SELLING TO HOME BUYERS.
THE TRICK IS, ONCE YOU GET INTO THE SECONDARY MARKET, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN PEOPLE ARE LISTING THEIR HOUSE OR WHAT FORMS THEY'RE PROVIDING OR NOT PROVIDING.
THE TITLE COMPANIES ARE OBVIOUSLY GOING HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE REAL ISSUES ON THE RESALE SIDE OF THINGS.
THE BILL ALSO REQUIRES NOW THAT WHEN YOU PASS THE ASSESSMENT AUGMENTS, YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THE FORM OF THE HOME BUYER DISCLOSURE IN THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN SO ANYBODY CAN JUST GO PULL THAT ORIGINAL DOCUMENT.
THEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO FILE THAT IN THE REAL PROPERTY RECORDS.
THEN EVERY YEAR WHEN WE MAY DO THE ANNUAL SAP UPDATE, THAT HAS TO BE FILED WITH THE REAL PROPERTY RECORDS.
THEY'LL ALWAYS BE SOMETHING SHOWING UP ON TITLE AND IT SHOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE.
THEN THE LAST PIECE YOU MENTIONED IT WHERE IT'S NOT ON THE ESCROW AND ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYBODY'S TAX BILL IS GOING UP, IS WE MAKE SURE AND GET IT ON THE PROPERTY TAX BILLS.
THE TITLE COMPANIES THAT ARE AT THAT POINT SEE THAT IT'S A LINE ITEM ON THE BILL AND THEY'RE PICKING BACK UP TO THE ESCROW AND THAT'S USUALLY PREVENTING PROBLEMS AS WELL.
>> I HAD ONE LAST QUESTION ON THE PIDS.
YOU DO AN AGREEMENT THAT ENCOMPASSES A CERTAIN AREA, IT MAY BE THE ENTIRETY OF THAT PROPERTY.
I THINK WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BASED ON THE ABSORPTION RATE, LIKE 28 OR 29 YEARS OF LOTS COMING ONLINE, NOT COUNTING ONES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED YET.
OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO FAIL.
WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT HALF THE LOTS THE DEVELOPER BUILDS ONE OR TWO SECTIONS AND THEN MOVES ON, IT'S NOT PROFITABLE AND THEY'RE STILL ANOTHER COUPLE OF SECTIONS PROPERTY TO DEVELOP, IS IT POSSIBLE TO REMOVE THOSE OTHER SECTIONS FROM THAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SO MAYBE THEY'D BE MORE MARKETABLE OR ARE THEY INSIDE OF PUBLIC AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR LIFE?
>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS, PIDS ARE VERY FLEXIBLE.
BUT I SAY FLEXIBLE, THEY'RE FLEXIBLE WHEN WE'RE FORMING THEM AND STRUCTURING THEM.
ONCE ASSESSMENTS ARE LEVIED AND ESPECIALLY IF BONDS ARE SOLD, THEY BECOME VERY INFLEXIBLE.
AT THAT POINT, YOU'VE GOT TAX EXEMPT DEBT SECURED BY THESE ASSESSMENTS.
WE CAN'T JUST MOVE THEM AROUND OR ELIMINATE THEM.
THAT DOESN'T WORK. HOW WE TYPICALLY STRUCTURE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS IS, AND I SAY WE, THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITIES BOND COUNSEL AND FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND UNDERWRITER.
COLLECTIVELY, EVERYBODY GIVES THEIR THOUGHTS.
GENERALLY HOW THEY WORK IS, YOU'LL LOOK AT HOW MANY LOTS DO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO ABSORB OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, AND THAT'LL BE INCLUDED IN THE FIRST ASSESSMENT LEVY.
IF WE SAY WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO ABSORB 200 HOMES, WE'LL DRAW A LINE AROUND THOSE 200 UNITS AND WE'LL ONLY LEVY ASSESSMENTS ON THOSE 200 UNITS.
THEN THERE'LL BE A BOND ISSUE THAT'S ONLY SECURED BY THOSE 200 UNITS SO THAT IF THE MARKET GOES HAYWIRE AND WE DECIDE WE DON'T WANT TO LEVY ANYMORE IN ASSESSMENTS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO REMOVE ASSESSMENT.
IT JUST WAS NEVER PLACED ON THOSE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THEY STILL DON'T HAVE AN ASSESSMENT.
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WE'LL ALSO DO SOMETHING CALLED A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT AREA, AND THIS IS TYPICALLY FOR A LARGE PROJECTS.SAY YOU HAVE 1,000 HOME DEVELOPMENT, TYPICALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SPINE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU GOING TO HAVE OFF-SITE WATER, UTILITIES, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
WE WOULD ASSESS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, A RELATIVELY LOW ASSESSMENT AMOUNT TO PAY FOR THE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEN AGAIN WE'D LOOK AT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 1, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST 200 LOTS AND THEY WOULD HAVE A HIGHER ASSESSMENT TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE INTERNAL WATER, SEWER, STREETS, THAT SORT OF THING.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS BUT THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENT AREA WOULD HAVE AN ASSESSMENT ON IT, BUT IT WOULD BE A RELATIVELY LOW TAX RATE.
>> WE'VE HAD A [NOISE] HISTORY IN ANGLETON OF FAILED DEVELOPMENTS.
I THINK THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT.
SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS THE SAME WAY.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO KEEP THAT REMAINING PROPERTY WHEN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS FAIL VIABLE FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS OUTSIDE OF A PID THEN THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN WORK THAT INTO THE EQUATION.
>> AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING IN GENERALITIES HERE, BUT IN GENERAL, THE PIDS ARE NOT SOLD TO RETAIL INVESTORS, THEY'RE SOLD TO GOLDMAN SACHS OR [INAUDIBLE] OR FRANKLIN FUND, THESE ARE LARGE, SOPHISTICATED, AND REALLY IT'S MY [INAUDIBLE] FIVE OR SIX FUNDS THAT ARE BUYING 95 PERCENT OF THE PID BONDS.
THEY'RE VERY SOPHISTICATED AND THEY WON'T BUY THE BONDS IF THE DEALS ARE AGGRESSIVE, SO IF THEY SEE TOO MUCH LEVERAGE OR THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T HAVE EXPERIENCE OR THE DEVELOPER HAS A BAD TRACK RECORD, ALL THOSE THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO TURN OFF INVESTORS AND MAKE THE BONDS DIFFICULT TO SELL.
>> EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SEEMS TO CALL INTO QUESTION, WHY WE DIDN'T EVEN ALLOW A PID IN ANGLETON IF THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING ANYTHING EXCEPTIONAL, IF THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING AMENITIES, IF WE'RE LOWERING OUR STANDARDS TO APPROVE THEM IN THE ZONING, HOW DOES THAT SERVE OUR RESONANCE, I'VE HEARD STORIES ELSEWHERE, IT'S AN INCENTIVE AND IT BRINGS DEVELOPERS INTO OUR COMMUNITY WHO MAY NOT COME OTHERWISE, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T TO, IF OUR CITIZENS ARE FOOTING THE BILL TO PAY FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME, THAT SEEMS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE, WHY WE WOULD DO THAT.
EITHER OUR CITY IS, PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO IT, THEY WANT TO COME DEVELOP, DO IT THE WAY EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, JUST GET A BANK LOAN, BUT PUTTING IT ON THE BACK OF THE CITIZENS TO FIND THEM, AND OUR CASE SEEMS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE, AND LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, YOU WOULD MAKE ANGLETON BECOME A HIGH-TECH CITY, BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY COMES AN ANGLETON, THEY LOOK AT RAILROAD RANCH OR GREYSTONE OR WHATEVER, AND I SEE INSTEAD OF A 65 CENT TAX RATE FOR THE CITY, THEY SEE A DOLLAR 30, A DOLLAR 40, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME IN AND SAY, RAILROAD RANCH, GREYSTONE OR OUR GREEN TRAILS, AND THE OTHERS, ARE GOING TO SAY ANGLETON TAXES ARE TOO HIGH.
SO THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME HAVING DEVELOPED FOR 30 YEARS IN HERE, AND I THINK THEY SERVE A PURPOSE.
I'VE SEEN PIDS THAT CREATE [INAUDIBLE] AN INFRASTRUCTURE, REALLY EXPANSIVE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND AMENITIES AND PARKS.
THE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR THOSE, BUT IF YOU'RE PAYING AN EXTRA TAX FOR NOTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET ACROSS THE STREET, I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL CITIZENS IN A TOWN OF LESS THAN 20,000 POPULATION ARE GOING TO GO FOR THAT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
>> AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS THAT [INAUDIBLE] YOU ARE POTENTIALLY IMPACTING THE OTHER CITIZENS OF ANGLETON, BECAUSE YOU ARE GIVING UP FUTURE TAX REVENUE ON THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, THERE REALLY IS NO IMPACT TO THE EXISTING TAXPAYERS, IT WOULD BE THE NEW TAXPAYERS MOVING IN TO THAT PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE PAYING A HIGHER RATE, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, THEY WOULD BE PAYING A HIGHER RATE THEN THE REST OF THE CITY.
>> I KNOW WE'RE WORKING, LIKE JOHN MENTION THE HONOR OF POLICY, SPECIFIC TO ANGLETON, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH P3, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THE CITY IS DOING IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU JOHN SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
>> YOU ASK A LOT OF THEM, I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT, YEAH, I HAVE A FEW MORE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
>> AS AN ENGINEER WHO NEVER PULLS HIS HEAD OUT OF THE SAND, A LOT OF THAT WENT RIGHT OVER MY HEAD.
RELATE THAT TO THE PARKS BOARD, WHAT THAT MEANS TO US.
>> THIS ITEM, IF YOU GUYS RECALL,
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A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WAS REQUESTED BY ONE OF THE MEMBERS THAT IT JUST BE A TOPIC THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE PARKS BOARD FOR A RECAP, SO EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE CITY WITH DEVELOPMENTS, HOW IT'S GOING TO RELATE AS WE DEVELOP A PIT POLICY WITH THE CITY, IS THAT NOT ONLY WILL YOU BE ABLE TO COLLECT PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES, OR FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND RATHER AND IMPROVEMENT FEES.WE WILL ALSO THEN BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.
THAT WAS THE MAIN THING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF AS IT RELATES TO DEVELOPMENT COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY.
>> IT APPLIES JUST TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE BUYING THE NEW HOMES AND THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN NOW?
>> THE ADDITIONAL TAXES, WELL, YES.
BUT I THINK TO CHRIS'S POINT, HE'S CONCERNED THAT IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CITY OVERALL, BECAUSE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE CITY MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.
BUT LIKE HE MENTIONED, THERE IS RECENT LEGISLATION THAT HAS STRICTER REQUIREMENTS ON NOTIFICATION, HOW PEOPLE SHOULD BE NOTIFIED, AND THEN, OF COURSE, WITHIN THE AGREEMENTS AND THINGS THAT THE CITY COULD POTENTIALLY PUT INTO PLACE, WE DON'T YET KNOW WHAT THOSE TOOLS ARE, WE'LL IDENTIFY THOSE WITH P3, BUT WE CAN HELP, GUIDE SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE CITY.
>> CAN YOU, PID POLICIES BEING DEVELOPED, AND I THINK CHRIS SAID IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE JULY AGENDA.
CAN YOU MAKE SURE THERE'S [INAUDIBLE] IN THERE THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME HIGHER AMENITIES.
>> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SO THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT IS MORE GEARED TOWARDS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND CITY MANAGEMENT ADMINISTRATION, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS WHAT IS GOING, THAT IS WHAT THAT, AND ADDITIONAL PROJECT NEGOTIATING TOOL.
BECAUSE EVEN COUNCIL HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY, NOT JUST A LESS HANDING OVER AN AGREEMENT FOR A PID, WE WANT TO SEE THAT THERE IS, WHERE'S THE VALUE IN THAT, WHERE IS THE ADDITIONAL VALUE AND PROVIDING THAT.
WE HAVE A NEGOTIATING TOOL TO SAY YES, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THIS OR NOT, AND SO THAT, I BELIEVE, I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT JOHN IS TALKING ABOUT, WHERE WE WOULD BE ADDING THAT IN TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS ADDITIONAL VALUE BEFORE WE APPROVE THEM.
>> I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT IN THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINATES THAT THESE DEVELOPERS, LIKE WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING HERE TALKING ABOUT THESE PARK FEES, AND THERE WERE INDIGNANT THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY HIM BECAUSE THEY PUT IT IN A DETENTION POND.
THEY'RE ASSUMING THAT WAS AN AMENITY, AND I THINK WE ALL AGREED ON THIS BOARD, THAT DETENTION POND IS JUST A REQUIREMENT, IT'S NOT AN AMENITY, AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL BE INSERTED IN THERE AS WELL.
>> THEY WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES, IN ADDITION TO ANY ADDITIONAL PARAMETERS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN A PID AGREEMENT.
SO IT DOES NOT ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT OF WHAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED AS A BOARD FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS.
THAT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING, PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, AND ADOPTION BY CITY COUNCIL, OF COURSE.
BUT EVEN AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT PERMITTED WITH, SPECIFICALLY THE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS, SO SOME OF OUR CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS, I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS, BUT AS IT RELATES TO PARKLAND DEDICATION, WE HAD A MEETING BACK IN MARCH WITH CITY COUNCIL WITH SEVERAL DEVELOPERS TO MOVE ALONG THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITH THINGS THAT WERE HANGING HIM UP, LIKE PARKLAND'S DEDICATION AND WHAT THEY WANTED OR PROPOSING TO THE CITY, AND SOME OF THOSE ARE STILL PENDING.
SO UNTIL THEY COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A PROPOSAL OR A PLAN OR THEY MEET OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, THEY WILL NOT BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
>> ANY SUBDIVISION, WHY WOULD THOSE NEW RESIDENTS WANT TO PAY PIDS MONEY EVERY YEAR FOR 30 YEARS TO FIND A PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE WHOLE CITY? WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW, [OVERLAPPING] , IF I WAS A HOMEOWNER, THAT'S HOW IT WOULD FEEL.
IF THAT'S WHAT THE MINUTE, THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT, OR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT THAT WAS OFFERED WAS SOME PARK THAT WE WANTED AS A PARK SPOT, YOU'RE BASICALLY ASKING THOSE NEW RESIDENTS TO PAY FOR IT FOR THE CITY.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR EITHER.
>> [INAUDIBLE] DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING.
>> I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, I THINK WE SPENT ENOUGH TIME ON THIS.
IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE AN OVERVIEW THAT THE PLACE WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE HAD BEFORE WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, HERE IS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE HAVE NEVER HAD THIS PRESENTATION.
SO FAR HAS JUST BEEN 45 MINUTES IN PARKS.
I APPRECIATE WHERE MY COLLEAGUES ARE COMING FROM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND LET THE PROCESS GO THROUGH.
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>> AS IT RELATES TO PARKLAND, I THINK WE'RE SO GOOD WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE, THE PIDS WON'T IMPACT US UNLESS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL PROJECTS WHICH WE CAN USE AS NEGOTIATING TOOLS.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S PERTINENT TO THE PARTS BOARD, SO I WOULD AGREE.
[3. Discussion on Athletic Sports Association needs and support.]
DISCUSSION ON ATHLETIC SPORTS ASSOCIATION NEEDS AND SUPPORT, SO WE HAVE AMY TIMMONS WITH ANGLES AND SOCCER CLUB IN HERE, AND WE ALSO HAVE KEVIN FORESTER AS WELL WITH ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE, AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THEM.FOR ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE REGARDING SOME OF THEIR NEEDS AS AN ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THAT THEY COULD USE FROM THE PUBLIC, WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS, BECAUSE WE MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH, WE WANT TO PROVIDE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME AND TALK TO YOU GUYS AND DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BOARD.
>> HOW ARE YOU GUYS? I'M THE TREASURER FOR ANGLETON SOCCER CLUB.
I'VE BEEN A VOLUNTEER SINCE 2018.
MY HUSBAND'S BEEN A COACH. MY KIDS HAVE ALL PLAYED.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN INVOLVED WITH SOFTBALL AS WELL WITH MY DAUGHTERS AND MY SON WITH ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE.
WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING AND NOW WE'RE SWIMMING, SO WE LIKE TO DABBLE IN ALL THE SPORTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE, AS A PARENT, FIRST OF ALL, AND AS A BOARD MEMBER, SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN OUT AT THE SOCCER COMPLEX.
IT'S NOT VERY VISIBLE IF YOU DON'T EVER GO OUT THERE FOR GAMES, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT FROM THE HIGHWAY.
WE'RE HIDDEN THERE BEHIND THE HILLS.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY OUT THERE.
WE ALWAYS HAVE TO GIVE DIRECTIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SOCCER COMPLEX IS.
BUT WE HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE. IT LOOKS WONDERFUL.
WE'VE HAD PAINTING THE PARKING LOT FOR OUR SPOTS.
I THINK THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING UP NEW FENCING.
WE'VE HAD A FENCE TAKEN DOWN AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING UP A NEW ONE.
THE FIELDS LOOK WONDERFUL OUT THERE.
WE DO HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE WITH DRAINAGE AND I THINK IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH MAYBE THE UNDERLYING SURFACE THAT IS OUT THERE.
WHAT THE PROPERTY ORIGINALLY WAS USED FOR, I BELIEVE IT WAS ADJACENT TO A LANDFILL.
SO WHEN THEY BUILT THE PROPERTY, I THINK THERE'S A CLAY LAYER OUT THERE.
I'M NOT SURE, IT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD.
WE DO HAVE A WELL OUT THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE IT.
IT'S NOT POTABLE WATER, SO THAT WOULD INDICATE ME SINCE WE'RE SO CLOSE TO MAYBE A FORMER LANDFILL.
WE DO HAVE MAJOR ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE.
IF WE GET HEAVY RAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN THE COMPLEX.
WE'VE HAD TO CANCEL OUR HALLOWEEN SHOOTOUT TOURNAMENT THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S A HUGE FUNDRAISER FOR US.
I THINK THREE YEARS IN A ROW, WE HAD TO CANCEL IT BECAUSE IT RAINS SO MUCH AND IT CANNOT EVAPORATE QUICKLY ENOUGH.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THE DRAINAGE OUT THERE.
THERE ARE SOME DITCHES THAT RUN ALONG WITH THE PROPERTY, I THINK OVER TIME THEY HAVE SLOWLY FILLED IN.
WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
WE'VE GONE OUT THERE AND REALLY WORKED AT IMPROVING THE TURF, FERTILIZING IT AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE A VERY, VERY HEALTHY LAWN SO THAT IT CAN ABSORB AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT WE DO STILL HAVE A REAL MAJOR ISSUE WITH THE DRAINAGE OUT THERE.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS OUR FACILITY TO BE MORE THAN JUST RECREATION TO MARKET IT TO TOURNAMENTS COMING IN FROM OUT OF THE AREA.
BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE OF DOING THAT BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR DRAINAGE.
I THINK IF WE COULD MAYBE ADDRESS THAT, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOME LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOTS OUT THERE.
THERE ARE TWO SLOTS, THERE'S ONE INSIDE A GATED AREA, AND THEN THERE'S AN OUTLINE PARKING LOT.
WE DO HAVE TEAMS THAT PRACTICE PRETTY MUCH YEAR-ROUND.
WE DO HAVE A SPRING AND A FALL SEASON.
IN THE EVENINGS, IT IS PITCH BLACK OUT THERE AND I'M ALWAYS WORRIED AS A PARENT THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET HIT IN THE PARKING LOT WHERE THEY'RE NOT SEEN.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT ONE NEW LIGHT THAT WAS PUT IN, THE SOLAR, THE NEW SOLAR LIGHT.
THAT'S RIGHT THERE AT THAT GATE AND ONCE YOU'RE INSIDE THE PARKING AREA IT'S DARK, AND TO ME, IT'S A HAZARD AND IT'S A LIABILITY ON THE CITY'S PART AS WELL.
I THINK THOSE ARE TWO OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES FOR US, IS LIGHTING IN THE EVENINGS AND AS WELL AS WHEN YOU'RE BACK OFF THE HIGHWAY AND YOU'RE BEHIND THE HILLS BACK THERE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL GO OUT THERE AND IT BECOME,
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I THINK A RISK FOR ILLEGAL THINGS HAPPENING BACK THERE BECAUSE IT IS SO DARK NOBODY CAN SEE.I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY THE CITY SHOULD ADDRESS AS WELL.
THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I'VE NEEDED TO RUN OUT THERE TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF THE CONCESSION STAND, AND I'LL SEE CARS OUT THERE AND I'M NOT SURE IF I WANT TO GET OUT OF MY CAR BECAUSE NOBODY COULD SEE ME BACK HERE.
I'M BACK BEHIND THE HILLS THERE AND ANYBODY DRIVING BY ON THE INTERSTATE OR THE HIGHWAY 28 THEY CAN'T SEE ME BACK HERE.
I KNOW THE CITY DOES PATROL AND THEY HAVE COME OUT BEFORE WHEN WE HAD AN ALARM THAT TRIPPED. THAT WAS WONDERFUL.
WE DO KNOW THAT THE CITY WILL RESPOND, BUT I THINK THE LIGHTING IS A HUGE RISK FOR THE CITY, LIABILITY.
IF WE COULD GET THAT IMPROVED, AND THEN WE COULD MARK IT OURSELVES TO REGIONAL TOURNAMENTS HOSTING, NOT ONLY RECREATION TOURNAMENTS, BUT ALSO ONES WHERE YOU HAVE THESE COMPETITIVE TEAMS. IT BRINGS IN A LOT OF MONEY.
I KNOW THEY JUST HAD THE SOFTBALL AT BATES AND THEY COME IN FROM ALL OVER THE STATE AND THEY NEED SOMEWHERE TO STAY, THEY NEED SOMEWHERE TO EAT.
IT BRINGS IN A LOT OF MONEY TO THE CITY.
BUT WE'RE JUST NOT READY TO MARKET THOSE THINGS BECAUSE WHEN WE'VE HAD TOURNAMENT PLANS, THE WEATHER FORCED US TO CANCEL BECAUSE WE HAD FIVE DAYS OF NO RAIN, BUT THE FIELDS WOULDN'T DRAIN AND THEY STILL WEREN'T PLAYABLE.
THOSE ARE TWO OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I WOULD SAY WITH OUR FACILITY.
>> WELL, THAT HALLOWEEN SHOOTOUT FOR YEARS WAS JOE'S BIGGEST FUNDRAISER.
BACK WHEN WE BUILT THAT PARK, IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOK FORWARD TO IS HAVING THOSE.
I KNOW WE USED TO HAVE A PARKS BOARD MEMBER HERE AS WELL, AND BARBARA WAS ON THE BOARD THERE AT ONE TIME AND HE BROUGHT IN A LOT OF REVENUE.
IT WOULDN'T A GOOD DAY TO GO TO WATER BURGER AND PUT IT ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE AS YOU SAID YOU BROUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND YOU CAN GET IN, BUT THE DRAINAGE HAS BEEN A RECURRING PROBLEM.
I'M NOT SURE WHY WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF IT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THAT SINCE THAT PARK WAS BUILT.
I GUESS IT'LL BE THE SOUTH SIDE TOWARD THAT LITTLE EVENTS CENTER PLACE.
>> SEEM TO BE WHERE THE WATER GOT DEEPEST. IS THAT STILL CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THOSE ARE CURRENTLY AREA FIELDS THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE.
THAT WHOLE HALF FILLS IN SOME EDGE AND THERE IS A SMALL DRAINAGE DITCH THERE, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO.
WE COULD BRING IN THE DIRT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY COST A LOT OF MONEY, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, MAYBE SHARING THAT WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMEWHERE FOR THAT WATER TO GO IN THE FIRST PLACE. YEAH.
>> WELL, I WAS AT A DRAINAGE DISTRICT MEETING WHEN THE GUY WHO HAD HARDKNOX FACILITY NEXT TO YOU, HE HAS ISSUES THERE NEXT TO LIBRARY WATER, NOWHERE TO DRAIN AND THEY SAID TO GET HIS WATER TO OUR DITCH.
THE PARK DITCH, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE IT CAN GO IS TO 28 OR THE FEEDER STREET.
I DON'T THINK THE CITY OWNS A LAND OUT FRONT CLOSE TO THE FEEDER STREET COMING IN THAT GETS BILLED IS NOT OWNED BY A PRIVATE.
WHEN YOU COME INTO THE RIGHT BEFORE YOU TURN INTO THE PARK, I WOULD HOPE THERE WOULD BE A PLACE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE IT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A DETENTION TO THAT WATER A PLACE TO GO AND THEY'RE GOING OFF INTO THE DITCH.
IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT HARD. IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE BUILD IT UP WE CAN PUSH THE WATER.
ALL YOU DO IS ELEVATE THE GROUND AND SOME GO DOWN THE HILL.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST THE COST OF GETTING DIRT.
I'VE GOT I THINK 700 LOADS OF DIRT COMING IN NEXT WEEK ON A PROJECT AND YOU'VE GOT A BIG PILE OF DIRT IN LAKESIDE PARK THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE MOVED THERE AND IT'S BASICALLY TOPSOIL.
>> YES. YOU'LL SEE AS WE GET DOWN INTO THE BUDGET, WE DO HAVE FIELD GRADING AND OUR PARKS INFRASTRUCTURE LINE ITEM BUDGETED FOR BG PARK, AND THEN IN OUR CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND LINE ITEM, WE HAVE SOLAR LIGHTS BUDGETED.
WE ARE TRYING TO PROPOSE AND PUSH THOSE PROJECTS FORWARD.
>> WILL THE SOLAR LIGHTS BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARKING LOT ITSELF OR ARE WE TALKING WHOLE FACILITY? I KNOW THAT THERE'S LIGHTS UP THERE THAT WILL LIGHT UP CERTAIN FIELDS, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO FIELDS THAT ARE IN THE IN THE BLACK NO MATTER WHAT.
>> WE MET WITH MUSCO SPORTS LIGHTING TWO WEEKS AGO [NOISE] AND WE DID RECEIVE A QUOTE FOR FIELD LIGHTING AS WELL, IT WOULD BE SEPARATE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOLAR LIGHTING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARKING LOT AND ACTUAL SPORTS LIGHTING FOR THE SOCCER FIELDS, AND THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE NUMBER.
I THINK EVEN UTILIZING SOME OF THE EXISTING POLES YOU'RE LOOKING AT 219,000.
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>> THEY'LL DO A GOOD JOB ON THE FIELD BECAUSE LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE THEY WERE REALLY GRAINED, THEY LOOKED NICE.
YOU THINK IF YOU HAD GOOD DRAINAGE AND THEN THE SOLAR LIGHTS THAT MEGAN IS TALKING ABOUT; HOW WOULD YOU COMPARE TO MOST OF THE FIELDS YOU ALL PLAY IN, IS THE FACILITY COMPARABLE TO A LOT OF THESE OTHER CITIES?
>> WE'VE HAS COMPLIMENTS FROM OTHER ASSOCIATIONS THIS YEAR, THEY'RE LIKE, THESE ARE THE BEST FIELDS WE'VE EVER PLAYED IN.
THEY'RE FANTASTIC AND WE'VE BEEN AERATING THEM AS WELL TO HELP WITH THE DRAINAGE TO GET THAT WATER SOMEWHERE TO GO.
>> WE'VE BEEN AERATING THE FIELDS TO HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS WITH JUST THE SURFACES BEING PLAYED ON, IT'S JUST NATURALLY GETTING COMPACTED DOWN.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AS WELL, FERTILIZING IT TO JUST GET A HEALTHY UNDERGROWTH.
THEY LOOK ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC, THEY ARE THE BEST FIELDS THAT MY KIDS HAVE EVER PLAYED ON.
>> YOUR ASSOCIATION GETS ALL THE CREDIT FOR THAT JOB.
>> YOU ALL DO AN EXCELLENT JOB IN TAKING CARE OF YOU FIELDS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> JOHN CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU, IT'S LOOKS GREAT OUT THERE. YOU ALL DO A GOOD JOB. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S WHY I HATE TO SEE YOU ALL LOSING THOSE TOURNAMENTS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A BIG REVENUE SOURCE.
>> WELL, IT MAKES SENSE TO US BECAUSE THAT'S A SEPARATE REVENUE STREAM THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING ON THE BACKS OF THE FAMILIES THAT PLAY IN OUR ASSOCIATION.
IF WE CAN BRING IN OUTSIDE MONEY FROM OTHER TEAMS AND CLUBS, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL BECAUSE THEN IT LETS US PUT BACK MORE INTO OUR ASSOCIATION AND TO OUR FAMILIES.
>> I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KEVIN WITH ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE.
>> GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU ALL? I'M KEVIN FORESTER WITH ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE.
OUR ASSOCIATION IS GROWING BIGGER AND BIGGER EVERY YEAR.
CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT HAVE A SENIOR FIELD CONSISTING OF ABOUT 350 FOOT.
WE'VE LOST ALL OUR SENIOR FIELDS OVER TO THE BUS BARN BECAUSE THEY TORE THAT FIELD DOWN TO BUILD THE BUS BARN.
RIGHT NOW, ANYBODY FROM THE AGES OF ABOUT 14 TO ABOUT 16 YEARS OLD, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A FIELD FOR THEM TO PLAY ON.
RIGHT NOW, I'VE REACHED OUT WE'RE USING TWO FIELDS IN LAKE JACKSON TO GO PLAY ON THEM, AND WE'RE FUNDING OUR MONEY TO GO USE THOSE FIELDS TO PLAY.
THAT'S ONE PROPOSAL, IS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LARGER FIELD FOR THE OLDER KIDS TO COME PLAY.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT 40 KIDS IN THAT DIVISION, EVEN THOUGH THEY WE'RE USING THE FIELDS IN LAKE JACKSON.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST NEEDS AND THE SECOND BIGGEST NEED THAT WE HAVE IS SOMEWHERE ELSE TO STORE OUR EQUIPMENT FOR MAINTAINING THE FIELDS BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE ON THE FIELD.
WE HOSTED A TOURNAMENT LAST WEEKEND ON LAST WEEK FOR THE BLUE GREY TOURNAMENT AT LAMAR.
WE HAD ABOUT SOMEWHERE ROUGHLY ABOUT 300 PARENTS, KIDS WITHIN THE PARK EACH NIGHT.
WE HAD LOTS OF COMPLIMENTS FROM KATIE, LAMAR, SEVERAL OTHER BIG CITIES ON HOW OUR FIELDS LOOK.
WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE IT LARGER AND BIGGER FOR ALL THE KIDS WITHIN ANGLETON.
>> I THINK OUR MASTER PLAN WE ARE WORKING ON FREEDOM PARK, TALKS ABOUT A 300 FOOT FIELD BEHIND THE CONCESSION STAND AREA.
BOARDS CHANGE OPINIONS WHAT THEY NEED OVER THE YEARS AS YOU ALL ROTATE THROUGH BOARD MEMBERS.
BUT THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR TEE BALL AND IF SO, COULD THAT BE UTILIZED INSIDE ONE OF THE EXISTING FIELDS VERSUS BUILDING ANOTHER FIELD JUST FOR TEE BALL?
>> IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE CITY'S GROWTH.
IF YOU COULD HAVE A TEE BALL FIELD WHICH DOESN'T CONSIST OF A WHOLE LOT, BECAUSE MOSTLY TEE BALLS ARE ALL INFIELD.
YOU'RE ONLY TALKING AND LIKE A 100 FOOT FENCE FOR A TEE BALL FIELD AND THOSE GAMES TYPICALLY LAST ABOUT AN HOUR.
YOU CAN RUN THOSE THROUGH A LOT QUICKER THAN YOU CAN RUN THROUGH LIKE THE SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 13-YEAR-OLD KIDS.
THERE'S ALWAYS A NEED FOR ANOTHER FIELD SO YOU COULD UTILIZE YOUR FOUR FIELDS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE TO KEEP GOING BETTER AND BIGGER WITH WHAT YOU HAVE.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT'S NOT A NEED, BUT A TEE BALL FIELD WOULD ALSO BE NICE.
BUT CURRENTLY WE NEED THE SENIOR FIELD TO GIVE THE 13-16 YEAR OLDS.
WITH THAT ALSO YOU CAN DO A 50-70 FIELD WHICH IS 50 FOOT MOUND AND 70 FOOT BASIS.
YOU COULD DO A 60-90, WHICH IS A 60 FOOT MOUND AND 90 FOOT BASIS.
YOU COULD DO THE 57 TOURNAMENT AND THEN YOU COULD DO A 69 FOR THE SENIOR LEAGUE TOURNAMENTS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING TOURNAMENTS IN AND GENERATE REVENUE, WHICH WE COULD GO DO A BLUE GREY TOURNAMENT OURSELVES OUT OF ANGLETON.
CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IS PROPOSING LIKE A BROWSERS CUP, TO GET THE SURROUNDING AREAS AROUND TO PLAY THE BROWSERS CUP OUT OF ANGLETON. [BACKGROUND].
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>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. HAVE YOU ALL DONE WHAT THE ANGLETON HIGH SCHOOL COACHES AS FAR AS THEIR PRACTICE BILL, CAN YOU ALL USE THAT AT TIMES?
>> IT'S ABOUT 500 BUCKS A GAME.
>> WELL, I WOULDN'T SAY THE GAMES, BUT JUST FOR PRACTICE,.
>> IT'S THE SAME THING. THEY WANT TO CHARGE US $500 TO USE THEIR FIELD, USE THEIR PRACTICE FIELDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME OUT, UNLOCK IT, MAINTAIN THE FIELD, DO ALL THE FIELD MAINTENANCE AFTER WE GET DONE WITH IT.
>> IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THERE HAS TO BE SUPERVISION THERE THE WHOLE TIME BECAUSE THEN THEY HAVE TO BE ALSO PAYING FOR THAT PERSON TO BE THERE TO SUPERVISE.
>> HYPOTHETICALLY, WE GROW WHEN WE ADD MORE FIELDS, SPECIFICALLY AT FREEDOM.
HOW DO WE SHAPE THAT? IS THAT STILL A NEED? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT A BASE WHERE YOU HAVE NATURAL TREES THERE.
I COULD IMAGINE THERE BEING A BIG TOURNAMENT BECAUSE OF THE TIME OF THE YEAR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SHADE STRUCTURE THAT'S OUT THERE.
IS THAT ALSO SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY PUT ON THE FIELD BEING FIRST SPECIFICALLY AT STORAGE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY ADD HAVING THAT ABILITY TO HAVE SOME SHADING ON IT?
>> SHADES ARE ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE.
KIDS HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO PLAY AND KEEP THEM OFF THE STREETS FIRST, AND THEN LET'S WORRY ABOUT THE SHADE AFTER THE SECOND OR THIRD-PARTIES.
>> STORAGE-WISE, WHAT DO YOU NEED OUT THERE FOR STORAGE?
>> WE'RE ROUGHLY AROUND AND ABOUT 10 BY 40 CONICS AND PROBABLY ABOUT A 20 BY 10 CONICS RIGHT NOW, OR MAYBE SOMETHING ABOUT 40 BY 40, MAYBE SOMETHING A LITTLE LARGER BECAUSE AS IT GROWS, THE EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO GROW WITH IT.
>> I THINK THEY ALREADY PRESENTED A PLAN FOR A STORAGE TO THE ABLC.
WE LOOKED AT SOMETHING A WHILE BACK WHICH I HAD GOT TO QUOTE FROM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT YET.
>> WE BROUGHT THOSE BACK TO ABLC AND BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL EXCESSIVE AND IT DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY DESIGN [LAUGHTER] WORK, ABLC HAD MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE THAT IN FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN.
THAT'S WITH THE DECISION, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH STORAGE.
>> WELL, I WOULD THINK MATERIAL COST ARE CRAZY RIGHT NOW.
AS A BOARD WE KNOW BY THE LIKES AT PARKING STUFF, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LAID A LITTLE BIT HOPING THAT THOSE COSTS GO DOWN, BUT I'M SURE THE BID WE GOT LAST WON'T BE A CLOSE CHECK WITH WHAT WE'D SEE RIGHT NOW.
KEVIN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY PURSUED NEW CONICS BOXES TEMPORARILY UNTIL WE GET THAT FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN DEVELOPED.
JAIME, ON YOUR NOTE ABOUT SHADE STRUCTURES, CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE SHADE STRUCTURES OVER BLEACHERS AT THE EXISTING FOURPLEX, AND SO THAT WAS BEING PAID THROUGH CARES REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS, AND SO WE HAD PURCHASE ORDERED AND WE WERE GIVEN ABOUT A SIX-WEEK LEAD TIME, SO YOU'LL SEE THEM SOMETIME IN THE SUMMER.
>> HAVE BOTH THE HOUSE MEMBERSHIP STAYED STEADY OR GONE UP OR DOWN? LIKE ON SOCCER, [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU COULD COME TO THE MIC IF YOU TALK.
>> NO, I'M OKAY. I JUST MUTED MY MIC.
>> WELL, WITH COVID LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T HAVE A FALL SEASON, SO OBVIOUSLY, OUR NUMBERS WERE DOWN.
THE SPRING, OUR NUMBERS WERE ACTUALLY UP.
I THINK EVERYBODY WAS JUST SO EXCITED TO HAVE THEIR KIDS BACK INTO SPORTS.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING FALL OF THIS CURRENT YEAR, WHICH IS OUR MAIN SEASON FOR SOCCER, WE'RE EXPECTING OUR NUMBERS TO BE CLOSE TO 500, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN IT WAS THE PREVIOUS FALL, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN 2019 BUT DIDN'T GET TO HAVE FALL 2020.
>> AS FAR AS FIELD, DO YOU HAVE PLENTY TO HANDLE THAT NUMBER OF KIDS?
>> WE DO. YEAH. WE HAVE THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
THE GRASS, THE TURF LOOKS WONDERFUL.
MY GUESS, THE CITY SERVICES HAVE REALLY HELPED US WITH EMPTYING THE TRASH THAT'S OUT THERE AND HELPING MAINTAIN THE RESTROOMS USUALLY ONCE A WEEK, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO TAKE CARE OF IT AS WELL.
WE'VE HAD COMPLIMENTS AS WELL ON THE RESTROOMS, SO IT'S GREAT, HONESTLY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] FOR THE RESTROOM.
>> IT USED TO BE ALWAYS AN [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] TAPS WERE FALLING APART.
>> IT WAS THE NUMBER 1 COMPLAINED ABOUT THING.
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THEY MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THE RESTROOMS. THEY RESURFACED THE FLOOR SO IT WASN'T SLIPPERY.THEY PUT UP THE NEW STALLS AND SOAP AND HAND SANITIZER STATIONS. IT LOOKS RIGHT.
I WILL SAY THAT UNDERNEATH THE PAVILION, WHERE A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES COME, BECAUSE IT IS SHADED, IT STAYS VERY COOL UNDERNEATH THERE, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY THAT ALSO WILL COME AND HANG OUT IN THAT AREA.
WHEN IT IS WET, IT IS EXTREMELY SLIPPERY.
IN THE MORNING WHEN IT'S VERY HUMID, THE ENTIRE SURFACE UNDERNEATH THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S COVERED, WILL HAVE A DAMP SHEEN OVER THE WHOLE AND IT'S UNDERNEATH, NOT ON THE OUTSIDE.
I WOULD SAY IF WE JUST HAD A TEXTURE THAT WE'D PUT DOWN FOR THE RESTROOMS, IT WOULD BE PERFECT IF WE PUT IT OUT ON THE REST OF THE CONCRETE THAT'S OUT THERE.
THE KIDS LOVE IT BECAUSE IT'S VERY, VERY SLIPPERY AND NOW THEY LIKE TO RUN AND TRY TO SLIP THEIR FEET. MAYBE IT'S JUST ME.
I'M NERVOUS THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO FALL AND REALLY GET HURT.
I THINK THAT'D PROBABLY BE A PRETTY EASY THING TO FIX.
IT JUST NEEDS TO HAVE SOME TEXTURE TO IT SO IT'S NOT SLIPPERY.
>> OKAY. IN LITTLE LEAGUE, YOUR ATTENDANCE OR YOUR PARTICIPATION IS STILL STEADY?
>> CURRENTLY, OUR NUMBERS ARE GROWING ABOUT 10-20 PERCENT OVER THE YEARS.
BALL BALL THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HOST ABOUT 400 KIDS.
WE'VE ALSO ENTERTAINED WEST COLUMBIA, BRAZORIA, FREEPORT, LAKE JACKSON, AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO COME PLAY FOOTBALL IN ANGLETON AND DO A TOURNAMENT-TYPE OF PLAY WITH EVERYBODY.
SO GIVE A DIFFERENT LOOK TO ALL THE KIDS WITHIN ANGLETON TO SEE OTHER KIDS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, HOW THEY PLAY BALL, HOW THEY COMPARE TO ANGLETON KIDS.
>> IF YOU HAD A 300-FOOT FIELD, YOU MAY ATTRACT MORE KIDS THAT WOULD PLAY IN THAT LEAGUE?
>> IF THAT LEAGUE COME BACK, THAT'S A LITTLE MORE OF A SMALLER LEAGUE, BUT THEN YOU WOULD END UP BEING A TOURNAMENT PLAY LIKE I'M SAYING, OR POOL PLAYED OR WHERE YOU POOL OUT IN THE FREEPORT, BRAZORIA, SWEENY, EVERYBODY COME AND PLAY WITHIN THAT LEAGUE.
I WOULD SAY YOU COULD PROBABLY TAKE THAT LEAGUE UP MAYBE TO ABOUT 50-75 KIDS IF WE HAD A FIELD UP HERE WITHIN ANGLETON SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL.
>> DO YOU ALL STILL GOT TO DANBURY FIELDS FOR PLAY OR NOT?
THEY'RE ON THE VERGE OF LOSING THEIR CHARTER, SO WE MAY END UP GETTING THOSE KIDS OUT OF THE CHARTER TOO, SO WE MIGHT PICK UP THAT AREA.
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
>> MEGAN, THERE IS A PRODUCT WE USED ON PATIOS WHERE PASSES WOULD BE NEAR THE SWIMMING POOL.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A WAX, BUT IT HAS A LONG DURATION AND YOU JUST ROLL ONTO ANY WORKS ON CONCRETE.
WE PUT ONE IN A BARN ONCE AND ROLLED IT OUT AND YOU DIDN'T SLIP AGAIN.
THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT AT THE SOCCER COMPLEX.
BECAUSE OVER TIME, CONCRETE GETS WORN DOWN AND GETS SLATE.
>> SURE. THERE ARE SOME OTHER MATERIALS ANESTAR HAS BEEN LOOKING INTO AND EVEN WHAT WE HAVE QUOTED OUT FOR BATES BASKETBALL PAVILION WHEN WE GO AND RETEXTURE AND PUT DOWN ACTUAL LINES FOR THAT COURT, WHICH IS VERY COMMON TO A SIMILAR MATERIAL THAT YOU PUT ON THE TENNIS COURTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO WITH LIKE A PAINT SAND TOPICAL APPLICATION.
WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BATHROOM RIGHT NOW I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE GLASS BEADS LIKE TRANSPORTATION COMPANIES LIKE [INAUDIBLE] WOULD USE FOR ROADS IF THEY WERE IN ICY CONDITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT ONLY THE WAX.
WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT, SEE WHAT THE COST IS ASSOCIATED.
THANK YOU, GUYS, SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THE NEXT ITEM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAY, WE'RE DISCUSSING,
[4. Discussion and possible action on assessing expenses and revenues associated with association field maintenance.]
AND THERE'S DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ASSESSING EXPENSES AND REVENUES ASSOCIATED WITH ASSOCIATION FIELD MAINTENANCE.THIS WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THROUGH JOHN WRIGHT, WHO INQUIRED ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THE CITY TAKING OVER SPORTS COMPLEX FIELD MAINTENANCE.
IN ORDER TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE IMPACTS WOULD BE, STAFF WOULD NEED SOME TIME TO COMPILE INFORMATION, DO RESEARCH AS IT RELATES TO OTHER MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS, CURRENT COST ASSOCIATED WITH FIELD MAINTENANCE, AS WELL AS REVENUE RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS FOR A LEAGUE OFFERING SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT THE EXPENSE VERSUS OPERATIONS ARE AND HOW WE WOULD MAKE UP THOSE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES IF THE CITY WERE TO TAKE IT OVER.
IN ORDER TO COLLECT THIS INFORMATION BEFORE WE LAUNCH IN THAT RESEARCH PORTION, WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO PARKS BOARD UP FOR A MOTION OR EVEN JUST DIRECTION,
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IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE US TO PURSUE THAT PATH.WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN A ROAD AND COLLECT INFORMATION AND SPEND MONTHS RESEARCHING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF THE PARKS BOARD HAS SOME CONCERNS OR WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL THE IMPACTS OF THE BUDGET AND WHAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MEAN.
WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU GUYS FOR A DISCUSSION ITEM.
IS THIS SOCCER, BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, EVERYTHING?
CURRENTLY, OUR ASSOCIATIONS WHERE WE'RE IN LEAGUE AGREEMENTS, THEY MAINTAIN ANGLETON SOCCER CLUB, MAINTAINS THEIR FIELDS.
WE MAINTAIN EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THEIR FIELDS.
SAME WITH OUR ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE AND ANGLETON GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION, THEY MAINTAIN INSIDE THE FIELDS AND WE MAINTAIN THE PARK OUTSIDE OF THE FIELDS.
>> ALL I CAN SAY IS KNOWLEDGE IS ALWAYS HELPFUL.
YOU'RE PROBABLY A BETTER JUDGE WHETHER THIS IS GOING TO BE VALUABLE AT THIS POINT.
I GUESS MY QUESTION WILL COME UP.
OBVIOUSLY, THE TEAMS DO NOT WANT ANY FURTHER EXPENSES.
[LAUGHTER] IF THE CITY TOOK IT OVER IS THAT GOING TO RAISE THE COST FOR ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS?
>> THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT TAKING ON ADDITIONAL EXPENSE IS IF WE GO AND RESEARCH THIS, WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT MEANS EXACTLY.
WHAT ARE THE EXPENSE IMPACTS TO THE CITY AND WOULD THE CITY AND PARKS BOARD RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ABSORBING THOSE EXPENSES WITHOUT ADDITIONAL REVENUE, OR IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT REVENUE IS COMING IN TO THE ASSOCIATIONS NOW, SO THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO ABSORB, OR WHETHER THAT IS IN THE FORM OF AN ADDITIONAL FEE FOR THEM ANNUALLY FOR USING THE FIELDS? WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE MOVING PARTS, THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE SIDE TO PRESENT A THOROUGH PICTURE OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THE CITY TO TAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON.
ONLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT TAKING ON AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE, THEN IT BEGS A QUESTION, CAN THE CITY AFFORD TO DO THAT, TO TAKE ON THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE AND WEAR AND TEAR WITHOUT THERE BEING ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY? THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER AS A BOARD BEFORE WE PURSUE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> WHAT DO THE ASSOCIATIONS EVEN WANT THAT, IS IT DONE BY VOLUNTEERS NOW FOR FREE? I'VE BEEN ON SOCCER AND BASEBALL.
MOST OF THE VOLUNTEERS, THEY'RE PROUD OF HOW THEY DO THAT AND THEY WANTED TO DO THAT THEIRSELF.
I DON'T KNOW. I JUST WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY REALLY WANT.
>> IF YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMING TO THE MIC.
>> I WANT TO ASK. WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND? WHY DOES HE EVEN COME UP WITH THE THOUGHT PROCESS? WHERE ARE YOU AT [OVERLAPPING] GENERAL LIKE YOU HAVING TO DO A LOT OF THIS WITH YOUR KIDS INVOLVED IN THE LITTLE LEAGUE OR HOW DID IT COME ABOUT?
>> YEAH, HERE'S HOW IT ALL CAME OUT.
I ORIGINALLY HAD A DISCUSSION WITH MEGAN ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
WE'RE THROWING THAT OUT THERE AND WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF SHE WAS TO HOSTING MORE TOURNAMENTS OR THE ASSOCIATIONS WERE HOSTING TOURNAMENTS AND WHAT FIELD CONDITIONS THOSE NEEDED TO BE.
WELL, SINCE THAT TIME, ASSOCIATIONS DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF KEEPING THEIR FIELDS.
SOCCER ASSOCIATION HAS MENTIONED ALL THE MOWING AND ALL THE FERTILIZERS THAT THEY DO.
LITTLE LEAGUE IS SECOND TO NONE OTHER.
I'VE SEEN THOSE GUYS OUT THERE FIRSTHAND AND HOW HARD THEY WORK.
THE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION, MY DAUGHTER PLAYS OUT THERE.
THEY WORK VERY HARD TO KEEP THEIR FIELDS UP OVER THERE TOO.
BUT THE CONSTANT THING I HEAR ABOUT IS IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THESE ASSOCIATIONS IS ONE TRASH PICKUP.
ALL OF THESE ARE CITY PARKS. PEOPLE CAN GO OUT THERE.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT CONDITIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF FIELDS, I'M NOT ONLY [NOISE] TALKING ABOUT WHO'S MOWING OR WHO'S MOVING DIRT, TALKING ABOUT ALL THE CONDITIONS IN THE FIELD ITSELF.
PICKING UP TRASH, MAKING SURE THAT EQUIPMENT IS BEING MAINTAINED PROPERLY.
THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT GO OUT THERE AND USE THESE FIELDS.
I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND WHEN I GO OUT THERE.
I GOT AT THE SOFTBALL AND I SEE RANDOM PEOPLE OUT THERE PLAYING IN THE BATTING CAGES.
I GO TO THE SOCCER FIELD AND I SEE PEOPLE SELECT TEAMS, THEY GO OUT THERE AND JUST PRACTICE BECAUSE THEY NEED A THROW-DOWN FIELD AND THAT'S WHERE THEY GO.
MOST OF THE TIME IT'S IN THE EVENINGS.
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I'VE SEEN THEM WITH THE HEADLIGHTS ALL SITTING UP THERE AGAINST THE FENCE SO THEY CAN TURN LIGHTS ON SO THEY CAN PRACTICE ON THE FIELD.THE LITTLE LEAGUE PROBABLY HAS IT THE WORST BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I'VE SEEN THE KIDS GOING OUT THERE AFTER SCHOOL AND SITTING IN THE STANDS THERE, SITTING UNDER THE DUGOUTS, EVEN WHEN IT WAS RAINING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, POURING DOWN RAIN.
A BUNCH OF TEENAGE KIDS WERE SITTING IN THE DUGOUT, SITTING THERE EATING CANDY AND EVERYTHING AND JUST HIDING FROM THE RAIN.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF THAT THESE ASSOCIATIONS ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK TO CLEAN UP.
IN THOSE CONDITIONS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING AFTER, BUT THEN IT MERGED INTO, FOR LITTLE LEAGUE, JUST BASICALLY MOWING WOULD THE ASSOCIATIONS GET SOME HELP THERE OR HOW THE FIELD DIRT BECAUSE OTHER TEAMS THAT ARE GOING OUT THERE.
WHO PRACTICES OUT THERE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH Y'ALL TO PRACTICE.
>> YES, SELECT TEAMS THAT RENT THE FIELDS.
WE COORDINATE WITH ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE WHEN IT'S NOT IN USE.
ANYONE THAT REQUESTS A FIELD RENTAL, WE FIRST MAKE CONTACT WITH ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE BEFORE ANY FIELDS ARE RENTED.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO MENTION IS THAT OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE ASSOCIATIONS DO, WE HAVE PARK STAFF THAT ARE GOING THROUGH FACILITIES AND FOR MAINTENANCE AS WELL.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD KNOW, INCLUDING STEWART IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE LEAGUES ACTUALLY ARE THE PEOPLE THAT RENT THE FIELDS, GET THEIR DEPOSIT BACK.
WE WERE GOING OUT AND INSPECTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY CLEANED UP AFTER THEMSELVES.
>> WHO GETS THE MONEY, THE CITY? FOR THOSE EXTRA SELECT LEAGUES.
>> RIGHT NOW I SEE ZERO TURNS AND A LARGE MOWER IN A BIG AREA AND DOING THE OTHERS.
WE DON'T MOW THE INFIELDS IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WE DO NOT MOW INSIDE THE FENCE.
>> UNLESS IT'S OUT OF HAND IN WHICH CASE WE WILL KNOW AND WE WILL DEDUCT OUT OF THE DEPOSIT WE RECEIVE FROM EACH OF THE ASSOCIATIONS.
>> TYPICALLY THAT'S THEIR DOMAIN.
WE JUST TAKE CARE OF THE PARK ITSELF.
>> CAN I ALSO ASK YOU GUYS IN THE REPRESENTATIVES, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? LET'S SAY THAT IT IS A DISEASE THAT HAS THAT HELP OUT WITH THIS AND THERE'S A FEEL TO IT, WHAT WOULD BE, I GUESS, WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR YOU GUYS, AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATIONS.
IN THE SENSE, DO YOU NEED HELP WITH THAT MOWING? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT WOULD BE IN YOUR OWN BEST INTEREST.
I KNOW RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ABOUT TO SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE ASSOCIATION.
[LAUGHTER] I JUST WANT YOUR OPINIONS SO THAT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO MAKE THIS A HEADLINER OR ACTUALLY DISCUSS IT OR NOT.
>> THAT'S REALLY A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER.
WE PASS THAT COST ALONG TO THE FAMILIES THAT REGISTER.
IT'S BUILT INTO THEIR REGISTRATION FEES.
WE'RE NON-PROFIT AND WE PRETTY MUCH BREAK-EVEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS I'M FINE WITH THAT.
MAYBE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT LEFTOVER TO BUILD UP A CUSHION.
COSTS ARE WHERE THEY ARE, AND I'VE HAD PARENTS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE EXPENSE OF IT AND WE CAN'T COME DOWN ON IT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LARGE FACILITY TO MOW.
WE CAN'T HAVE THAT DONE BY VOLUNTEERS.
IF YOU'VE NOT EVER BEEN OUT TO THE SOCCER COMPLEX, IT'S HUGE, AND ALWAYS IT NEEDS TO BE MOWED AND NEEDS TO BE MARKED AS WELL.
YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE RANDOM PEOPLE.
NOW, WHEN MY DAUGHTERS WERE YOUNGER, THE SOCCER CLUB DID THE MOWING, AND THEN THE PARENTS DID THE MARKING.
WE COULD GO BACK TO DOING THAT.
THE COST OF THE MARKING, BY THE TIME YOU BUY THE PAINT, YOU BUY THE EQUIPMENT FOR THEM TO HAVE THE LITTLE MACHINES THAT YOU ROLL AROUND THE FIELDS.
IT'S ALMOST THE SAME COST VERSUS LETTING A COMPANY DO IT FOR US.
IT'S THE MOWING THAT IS REALLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING.
WHAT WOULD WE RATHER? I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I GUESS OUR FIELDS LOOK FABULOUS.
MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO LOOK THAT WAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD WORK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD IT BE MAINTAINED UP TO OUR STANDARDS.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY YES, THEY WOULD BE, BUT, IT'S MOWING SO, SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO GO OUT THERE EVERY FIVE, SIX DAYS AND MOW.
WHEN THE GRASS IS [INAUDIBLE] AND IT'S LESS FREQUENT TO GO OUT THERE.
[BACKGROUND] IF IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE CITY OR NOT PART OF THE CITY.
BUT IT IS OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE.
>> I'M THINKING ABOUT EACH OF YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE TO HAVE
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THE SOCCER COMPLEX AT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF HEIGHT AND TO HAVE THAT DURING A TOURNAMENT, IT'S CRUCIAL.IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE FIELD.
THE IN FIELD HAS TO BE A CERTAIN HEIGHT.
THE OUTFIELD NEEDS A METER, [INAUDIBLE]. ALL OF THAT'S IMPORTANT.
PART OF I GUESS MY HESITATION WOULD BE, IF THE CITY TAKES THAT ON, IS THE CITY GOING TO MAINTAIN WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY DONE ON AN EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH LEVEL? I DON'T WANT IT TO BE DEGRADED TOWARDS THE CITY AND THE EMPLOYEES THAT DO THE WORK, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ON TOP OF IT THE WAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE ON TOP OF IT ON A MORE THAN WEEKLY BASIS.
MAKING SURE THE DIRT IS WATERED THE RIGHT WAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> SAME THING WITH SOFTBALL FIELDS AND WHATEVER COMPLEX WE END UP HAVING, WHATEVER ASSOCIATIONS WE HAVE.
YOU-ALL HAVE BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB, WHEREVER FOREVER.
I DO REMEMBER AS A PARENT HAVING TO MARK THEM AND I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WAS MARKING THEM, IT WAS [LAUGHTER] NOT AS NEARLY AS GOOD AS YOU GUYS WERE DOING IT BECAUSE THE MARKS WERE NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT.
MAINTAINING THAT STANDARD, HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY WOULD MAINTAIN THAT HIGH STANDARD THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THE AMAZING JOB OF KEEPING IT? THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN OVER IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> YES, I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AGO VERSUS, COULD THE CITY DO IT? COULD WE DO IT? WE'VE TALKED WITH JACKSON ABOUT IT AS WELL.
HOW ARE YOU ALL AFFORDING THIS? I THINK FOR THE MUNICIPALITY TO DO IT, I THINK IT WAS COST-PROHIBITIVE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT FOR SURE.
BUT I THINK THE ISSUE OF WE CAN DO IT, BUT HERE'S HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST US TO PASS THEM ALONG TO YOU.
I WAS LIKE, WE CAN NEGOTIATE IT CHEAPER THAN THAT.
WE'VE ALWAYS TAKEN IT UPON OURSELVES.
>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'D WANT TO CHANGE IT IF IT'S WORKING.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE FIELDS THAT YOU'RE MAINTAINING AND EVERYBODY SAYS THEY'RE GOOD, WHY DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER CHANGING THAT? OVER THE YEARS, EVERY FIVE, SIX YEARS, MAYBE LONG, WE GET A BOARD THAT'S UNDERSTAFFED.
YOU CAN'T FIND ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS.
WE'VE HAD THAT I THINK WHEN WE FIRST BUILT FREEDOM PARK 1670.
WHATEVER HOW MANY YEARS AGO WE BUILT IT.
THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH MEMBERS TO MAINTAIN IT.
I THINK WE HAD TO GO IN THERE AT ONE TIME, AND THEN WE HAD TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS.
GRASS DIDN'T TAKE ON THE INITIAL FIELD.
BUT YOU ALWAYS WORKED THROUGH THAT AND YOU ALWAYS TAKE CARE OF YOUR FIELDS.
I DON'T SEE THE BIG PUSH TO CHANGE WHAT IS WORKING, AT LEAST IN MY PERSPECTIVE.
>> MY TWO CENTS IS I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT.
I CAN'T SAY I'M SPEAKING FOR THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HERE WITH ME, BUT WE WOULD APPRECIATE, I THINK THEY WOULD AGREE WITH ME, ASSISTANCE IN THE OTHER AREAS LIKE WITH THE DRAINAGE, WITH ADDING ONE MORE FIELD WITH LIGHTS.
WE ALREADY HAVE TWO, THAT WOULD GIVE US THREE FIELDS WITH LIGHTS.
THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PLAY TOURNAMENTS WITH PLAYERS ALL THE WAY UP TO 18, OR EVEN ADULT TOURNAMENTS COMING DOWN.
I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE ASSISTANCE IN THAT AREA, UPGRADES TO THE CONCESSION STAND.
WE HAVE A CONICS BUT IT LEAKS, THOSE THINGS.
I THINK THE WAY WE'RE MAINTAINING IT WORKS FOR US.
WE'RE VERY IN TUNED WITH OUR GRASS.
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE MOWED, WHEN IT NEEDS FERTILIZER, WHEN TO LET IT GROW A LITTLE HIGHER.
BUT I THINK IT'S THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE ASSISTANCE WITH.
>> THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO MAINTAIN IT TO OUR STANDARDS BECAUSE WE MOW IN SEASON 2-4 TIMES WEEK.
I'VE GOT A WONDERFUL BOARD THAT STANDS BEHIND ME 100 PERCENT.
SOME OF MY GUYS JUST LOVE GOING OUT THERE TO MOW.
IT'S LIKE THEIR DECOMPRESSION TIME TO GO MOW.
WHERE IT BECOMES FRUSTRATING IS WHENEVER YOU'RE RENTING THE FIELDS TO SELECT TEAMS, AND THEN THEY'RE MOVING THE BASES OUT TO 70 FOOT, THEN THEY START TEARING UP OUR GRASS WHERE THERE'S NO DIRT.
THAT'S WHEN IT BECOMES FRUSTRATING, AND THEN YOU START HOLDING TOURNAMENTS TO WHERE YOU'RE MOVING YOUR BASES BACK TO 60 FEET.
THEN BEHIND THAT, IT'S ALL BARE GROUND BACK THERE BEHIND IT AND IT LOOKS HORRIBLE.
WE WORKED REALLY HARD THESE LAST TWO WEEKS TO GET ALL THAT GRASS TO COME BACK TO HOST THE TOURNAMENT THAT WE DID LAST WEEK.
THAT'S WHERE THE FRUSTRATION OF THE LITTLE LEAGUE COMES IN, IS WHENEVER WE SPEND HOURS, DAYS OUT THERE MAKING SURE THE FIELDS LOOK EXTRAVAGANT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE FIELDS GET TORE UP FROM PEOPLE MOVING BASES.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I'VE HELPED TO GO TO A 50, 70, 60, 90 FIELDS SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO MOVE THE BASES.
>> I'M OLD, SO IT WAS DIFFERENT. BACK IN THE DAY, WE PLAYED THE LEAGUE FOR TWO MONTHS MAYBE.
BUT IS IT YEAR ROUND PRETTY MUCH NOW?
>> PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY HAS GONE TO SELECT BALL.
WE PLAY SUMMER BALL, VOLLEYBALL WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US THAT PLAY YEAR-ROUND LONG NOW AS SELECT BALL.
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>> THE FIELDS ARE ALWAYS OCCUPIED BY SOME GROUPS.
>> SOME GROUPS OF KIDS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERYWHERE AROUND.
THERE'S ALWAYS KIDS ON THE FIELDS.
>> MEGAN, DOES OUR ORDINATE OR OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM, DOES IT STIPULATE THEY HAVE IT FOR A YEAR AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN USE IT WHEN IT'S NOT BEING PLAYED; IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.
>> THERE'S ALSO A CAVEAT IN THERE THAT THEY TAKE THE FIELDS ANY TIME THAT THEY SEE FIT TO HOLD SOMETHING FOR THE CITY.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S FRUSTRATING TOO.
>> JOHN ALSO BROUGHT UP ABOUT TRASH, IS THERE A CONCERN ABOUT TRASH THAT WE'RE NOT PICKING IT UP ON THE FIELDS?
>> JUST SO I CAN CLARIFY, BOTH OF THESE ASSOCIATIONS PLUS SOFTBALL, THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF GOING AROUND AND PICKING OUT, BUT THEY DON'T CATCH EVERYTHING.
I KNOW ITS FRUSTRATION FOR THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT REALLY PUT IN THE TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE TRASH PICKED UP, TO FIND MORE TRASH ALL THE TIME OUT THERE.
THAT'S WHY I MADE THAT COMMENT.
I WAS NOT STANDING HERE OR ASKING MEGAN TO SAY THE CITY TAKING OVER ALL MAINTENANCE, THAT WAS NEVER MY INTENTION ON THIS.
WHAT IT WAS WAS A PARTNERSHIP OR SOME TYPE OF FUNDING MECHANISM THAT MAYBE WE INCREASE THE MAINTENANCE OPERATION BUDGET THAT WE GIVE TO THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT HELP FOR DIRT, OR FOR FERTILIZER, FOR WHATEVER ELSE THEY NEED TO HELP MAINTAIN THESE FIELDS.
IT WASN'T THAT THE CITY SHOULD START TAKING OVER ALL THE DIMENSIONS OF EACH FIELD AND ALL THE MARKINGS AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE.
THAT'S WHAT THESE ASSOCIATIONS ARE FOR.
THE TRASH HAS BEEN AN ISSUE THOUGH HERE LATELY THAT I'VE SEEN, AT ALL THREE PLACES.
>> I'VE SEEN PARENTS DO THE SAME THING, JUST LEAVE THEIR STUFF ON THE GROUND AND WALK OFF.
I CAN TELL YOU ON LITTLE LEAGUE EVERY NIGHT, ONE OF THEIR CLOSING DUTIES IS THEY GO RIDE AROUND, AND THEY TAKE ALL THE TRASH, AND THEY PICK UP, AND THEY TAKE EVERYTHING.
THE SOFTBALL [INAUDIBLE] JUST STAYS OUT THERE FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER EVERY GAME DOING THE SAME THING.
SOCCER IS OUT THERE UNTIL AFTER DARK IN THE DARK MOST OF THE TIME BECAUSE THERE'S NO LIGHT OUT THERE TRYING TO FIND TRASH.
IT'S MOSTLY DURING YOUR PRACTICE TIMES AND OFF TIMES.
>> WELL, MEGAN, MY TWO CENTS ARE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A BUDGET ITEM TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT.
[LAUGHTER] I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY WORKED UP QUITE A FEW THINGS, BUT IT MAY BE SOMETHING ELSE.
IF THERE'S SOME EXTRA PENNIES AROUND.
>> I'LL TRY TO GRAB THEM. [LAUGHTER]
>> WELL, ONE TIME WE HAD A CONTINGENCY FUND IN THE [INAUDIBLE].
WE PAID FOR SCHOOL BOARDS, WE PAID FOR IT COULD BE NETTING, IT COULD BE BACKSTOPS, DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT PARKS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CONTINGENCY FUND LOOKS NOW.
>> THE CONTINGENCY FUND FROM AN AVLC PERSPECTIVE IS OUR BALANCING LINE ITEM.
WHATEVER WE NEED TO BALANCE, THE BUDGET IS WHAT WE PUT IN THE CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM.
THIS YEAR WE HAVE, DON'T QUOTE ME, BUT I THINK IT'S AROUND 51,000, PART OF WHICH WILL BE GOING TO AVLC AND DISCUSSING WHAT WAS MENTIONED MOST RECENTLY, THE WRECK PLAZA RENOVATIONS, BUT WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT COMING IN AT 25.
THAT COULD BE A CONSIDERATION TO TAKE TO AVLC.
BUT WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT THE BUDGET AS WELL.
THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A RECOMMENDATION FOR CHANGE WHEN YOU SEE THAT BUDGET.
[5. Discussion and possible action on a Parks & Recreation Youth Board member application.]
>> DO WE HAVE OUR YOUTH BOARD MEMBER HERE OR ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT?
>> [NOISE] WE DO NOT HAVE THE YOUTH BOARD MEMBER HERE.
WE'RE JUST REVIEWING THE APPLICATION AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENT AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
>> HOW MANY APPLICANTS? IS THAT THE ONLY ONE YOU RECEIVED?
>> HOW DID WE ADVERTISE TO THE COMMUNITY, I GUESS, ABOUT THIS?
>> WE HAD SENT THE INFORMATION OUT TO ALL OF OUR, I KNOW WE SENT IT OUT TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, PARKS BOARD, AVLC, KEB, THE LIONS CLUB.
THEY SENT IT OUT TO THEIR LEO'S ROTARY, SO THE KIDS IN AND OUT TO INTERACT.
WE SENT IT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE SUPERINTENDENT THERE.
I BELIEVE WE ALSO SENT IT TO ANGLETON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, I BELIEVE.
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I'M NOT CERTAIN, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK WHEN WE INITIATED THIS.I KNOW, JERRY DINO, IF WE PUT IT ON FACEBOOK, THE APPLICATION AND ADVERTISING ON SOCIAL MEDIA?
>> YEAH. I THINK I SAW SOME THINGS.
>> I THINK MAYBE ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
FACEBOOK WILL PROBABLY GET MORE TRACTION WITH KIDS.
>> I HAD AN APPLICANT THAT WANTED TO DO IT, BUT MY GRANDDAUGHTER IS ONLY 14, SO I TOLD HER JUST WAIT A FEW MORE YEARS [LAUGHTER] AND SHE CAN DO IT.
>> GLAD TO KNOW THERE IS GOING TO BE PEOPLE COMING DOWN THE PIPE.
>> I GOTTA REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST.
BIRTHDAY IS I DON'T KNOW WHEN [INAUDIBLE] SOMEWHERE [INAUDIBLE].
HE TURNS 18 OCTOBER 7TH OF THIS COMING YEAR.
HE WOULD STILL BE ON FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
I'M ASSUMING GABRIEL IS AN INCOMING SENIOR.
ANYBODY KNOW? HE'S 17. [INAUDIBLE]
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS.
HE SAYS HE'S A 10TH-GRADE STUDENT.
>> HE'S ONE OF THOSE BOLD CUT-OFFS.
>> MEMBER OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UNION CADETS, JUNIOR ROTC, I WISH I HAD A PICTURE OF THIS DUDE.
I FEEL LIKE I'VE SEEN HIM AT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.
>> THE REC CENTER WHEN WE DID THE WATER DISTRIBUTION? I THINK SO TOO. [OVERLAPPING] HE MAY HAVE BEEN. I DON'T RECALL.
>> [OVERLAPPING] A COUPLE OF THE JUNIOR CADETS THAT WERE THERE WHEN WE WERE GIVING OUT WATER.
>> HE SEEMS VERY INTERESTED IN IT SO I WILL MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND HIM FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD.
>> NOW IN MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT [INAUDIBLE] GABRIEL GONZALEZ.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY, "I." [OVERLAPPING] WELL, YOU SAID THEY'LL BE ATTENDING MEETINGS ON OCCASIONS OR REGULARLY?
>> WE WILL INVITE HIM TO ATTEND REGULARLY.
BUT HE WILL BE A NON-VOTING MEMBER ONCE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
>> ITEM NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION AND POSTULATE
[6. Discussion and possible action on creating Hike and Bike Subcommittee.]
ACTION ON CREATING HIKE AND BIKES SUBCOMMITTEE.>> YES. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE.
AS WE ALL KNOW, THE CITY IS GROWING AND AS ARE THE NEEDS.
HIKE AND BIKE AMENITIES ARE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT IN OUR PLANNING EFFORTS.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE TOP INITIATIVES IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN WAS MORE TRAILS AND CONNECTIVITY TO OUR EXISTING PARK ELEMENTS OR PARK SPACES.
HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS CAN OFFER ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION CHOICES AND IMPROVE SAFETY, ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE ABLE TO PUSH FORWARD A MULTI-MODAL TRAIL WITH A HIKE AND BIKE SUBCOMMITTEE AND ALSO ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND IMPROVE ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS WHEN FOLKS ARE LOOKING AT JUST DIFFERENT AREAS TO LIVE AND THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY IN OUR PARK SYSTEM AND CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO VARIOUS PARKS AND NOT JUST ONE IN THEIR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN OUR MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN ARE GOAL NUMBER 3 UNDER FACILITIES AND AMENITIES.
OBJECTIVE 3.2, ADDRESS PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ALSO 3.2, CONSIDER A TRAIL AND MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO ADDRESS WALKABLE ACCESS TO RECREATION FACILITIES.
THOSE WERE THE TWO PRIMARY ITEMS THAT WERE ADDRESSED IN OUR MASTER PLAN THAT I THINK THAT THIS HIKE AND BIKE SUBCOMMITTEE COULD SERVE TO DEVELOP.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PARK'S BOARD CREATE A INFORMAL HIKE AND BIKE SUBCOMMITTEE CONSISTING OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
THESE WOULD BE INDIVIDUALS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY MADE UP OF OUR CURRENT PARKS BOARD.
IT WOULD JUST BE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO THE PARKS BOARD THAT WOULD PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ALL AS WELL AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE'VE GOT BUDGET DOLLARS FOR SIDEWALK REPAIRS AND INSTALLATION.
AS THIS COMMITTEE DEVELOPS A HIKE AND BIKE PATH OR MULTIMODAL TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD HELP GUIDE THOSE DOLLARS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHERE THEY NEED TO BE SPENT IF WE'RE LACKING SIDEWALKS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED TO CHRIS ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE WAS YOU CAN GET ALMOST FROM THE NORTH INTO TOWN ON VALDEREZ ALL THE WAY SOUTH.
BUT THEN TO GET INTO DOWNTOWN,
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WE'RE LACKING A PATHWAY ON CEDAR, IT JUST ENDS RIGHT AT THE LIBRARY.WE NOW HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY OVER TO CENTRAL ELEMENTARY.
WE JUST HAVE NEW SIDEWALKS INSTALLED THERE.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO HANG A RIGHT AND WALK DOWN, LET'S SAY, TO GO EAT AT A RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN, YOU WANT TO BIKE OR HIKE THERE, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY.
THIS WOULD HELP GUIDE SOME OF THOSE INITIATIVES AND REALLY OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
SOME OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER WITH THESE HIKE AND BIKE SUBCOMMITTEES, MANY CITIES HAVE THEM, CITY OF SEABROOK, LAKE JACKSON HERE LOCALLY DOES, LA PORTE, MISSOURI CITY, BUT THEY HELP WITH HVAC GRANT FUNDING FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL AND OVERALL TRAILS MASTER PLAN.
IF YOU LOOK AT HVAC, THEY HAVE A HUGE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS MASTER PLAN AND WE ARE NOT A COMPONENT OF IT AT ALL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE.
LITERALLY, YOU CAN LOOK AT A MAP ON THEIR WEBSITE, IT HAS ALL THESE CONNECTIVE TRAILS OF MUNICIPALITIES AROUND US, WE'RE A BLANK SPOT AND THEN YOU GO DOWN TO LAKE JACKSON.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO REALLY HELP BE A CONNECTING PIECE TO THAT OVERALL PLAN AND REALLY POUR BACK INTO OUR OWN COMMUNITY AND DEVELOP SOME OF THESE PATHS.
THOSE ARE [LAUGHTER] CERTAINLY SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE.
CHRIS, DO YOU KNOW IF IN OUR GRANT APPLICATION FOR DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK REPAIRS, DID WE PUT ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT PLAN FOR TXDOT? I THINK WE DID PUT SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS WHICH TIES INTO OUR LITTLE CENTER STUDY, IS MAKING THAT MORE WALK AND BIKE-FRIENDLY.
I TRIED TO COMBINE THAT, THOSE TWO WORDS.
[LAUGHTER] THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD SEE AS ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS DOWNTOWN.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, DO YOU LOOK AT GETTING ACCESS TO IMPROVE OUR ACCESSIBILITY? THE RIVERWOOD RANCH, AND I'VE USED THAT NAME SEVERAL TIMES A DAY, BUT IT JUST FITS IN THIS ONE AGAIN, THE INTERSECTION OF HOSPITAL DRIVE AND DOWNING HAS A CROSSING GUARD THERE.
TWICE A DAY DURING SCHOOL, WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF KIDS EACH DAY. THEY CROSS THERE.
WHEN DOWNING WAS EXPANDED, WE HAVE VERY LITTLE SIDEWALK ON EITHER SIDE.
SOME OF IT IS ON THE CURVE, SO IF SOMEBODY WOULDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO A CAR, GOING TO CURVE, THEY'RE GOING TO HIT SOMEBODY.
WHEN THEY DID THEIR DIRT WORK FOR THEIR SECTION 2, THEY PUSHED A LOT OF DIRT ONTO THE CITY PROPERTY, BEYOND THEIR PROPERTY LAND TO BUILD UP THE OUTSIDE SO THE WATER RUNS TO THE STREET.
I WATCHED SOMEONE MOWED IT LAST WEEK AND THEY WERE ON AN INCLINE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS NOT FLAT ANYMORE.
I THINK BEFORE YOU APPROVE SECTION 2, YOU WANT TO GET THEM TO CLEAN THEIR DIRT OFF OF THAT PROPERTY.
BUT WHAT I THOUGHT IS, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
I'VE SEEN THEM FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS, IF WE MISS THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOMETHING, WHY CAN'T WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET A LITTLE OF OUR PROPERTY FROM COLONY SQUARE, I GUESS THEY'D BE THE SOUTHEAST ALL THE WAY TO HOSPITAL DRIVE.
AGAIN, WE HAVE A VERY SMALL SIDEWALK.
IT LOOKS UNDERSIZED, MAYBE THREE-FOOT AND THERE'S NO EASEMENT TO EXPAND IT.
THERE'LL EVENTUALLY BE A FENCE, SO YOU'LL FEEL CLOSED IN.
SAME THING ALL THE WAY DOWN HOSPITAL DRIVE, AND ALL THE WAY DOWN DOWNING TO [INAUDIBLE].
IF WE COULD ACQUIRE A LITTLE MORE EASEMENT, AND AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD BE THAT DIFFICULT.
IF WE DON'T, WELL, IT'S GONE FOREVER.
THAT'S A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION.
I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO GET, AND I THINK MOST DEVELOPERS IN THE PAST, I KNOW HAVE GIVEN EASEMENT, OTHERS GET EASEMENT, SO IT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
BUT I'VE LEARNED WHEN WE [NOISE] DON'T DEAL WITH IT, WHEN THAT OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF, WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AGAIN.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON AND MENTION.
AS IT RELATES TO THE HIKE AND BIKE SUBCOMMITTEE, THAT CAN BE INITIATIVES THAT THIS GROUP WOULD PUSH.
OUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE DO CREATE A HIKE AND BIKE SUBCOMMITTEE.
AGAIN, IT WOULD BE AN INFORMAL COMMITTEE BUT IT WOULD REPORT TO YOU ALL AND ALSO HELP TO SERVE SEVERAL OTHER DEPARTMENTS. GO AHEAD.
>> FOR OUR PARK BOARD PURPOSES, THIS SUBCOMMITTEE CAN THEN GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE POTENTIAL HIKE TRAIL THAT COULD BE PART OF FREEDOM.
>> OR IF WE EXPAND, LET'S SAY WELCH AS AN EXAMPLE, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT WE COULD USE A BIKE TRAIL OUT THERE FOR BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
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>> SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE THE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO WHETHER THE DEVELOPER TO SAY, ''THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND THEY'RE BRINGING TO US. '' THEN WE WOULD POTENTIALLY IMPROVE IT PLUS COMMA SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, WE'RE GOING TO USE HENDERSON, THAT'S ALWAYS AN EXAMPLE OF A ROAD THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS A SIDEWALK.
>> RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS DOING.
TO YOUR NOTE CHRIS TOO AND JAIME, WHEN WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE PIDS, THOSE SPECIAL PROJECTS, AS YOU'LL SEE IN FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN, ONE OF THE INITIAL MEETINGS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT, TO NOT FORGET ABOUT THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPING IT, BUT THEY MENTIONED USING BRUSHY BY YOU DETENTION AREA AND EASEMENT.
THAT WOULD BE A HUGE LOOP TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY.
THAT COULD BE A MULTIMODAL TRAIL.
WITH THESE DEVELOPERS, IF WE HAD THAT ESTABLISHED AND WE SAID, "YES, WE WANT THAT TO BE A MULTIMODAL TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY," AS DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A PID, WE CAN SAY, WELL, PART OF YOUR FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND, WE WANT THAT, BUT WE ALSO WANT YOU TO FUND X NUMBER OF DOLLARS TOWARDS COMPLETING THIS SECTION OF THIS MULTIMODAL TRAIL.
>> ABOUT 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO, WE DID A DRAINAGE DISTRICT WHERE WE CONNECTED THE RANCHO ISABELLA DITCH FROM OUT TOWARD 523.
NOW, THERE'S ALL THE WAY BACK TO HENDERSON ROAD AND WE CONNECTED BRUSHY BOW FROM GREYSTONE SUBDIVISION, A NEW ONE COULD CONNECT TO FREEDOM PARK, AND THEN VARIOUS ONES WE CAN CONNECT.
THE BOW RIGHT AWAY IS ALREADY THERE.
>> RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN GO TO VALDEREZ, GO DOWN THE RANCHO DITCH ALL THE WAY TO FREEDOM PARK.
>> YOU CAN CONTINUE ON AROUND TO STADIUM DRIVE OR TO CAMPUS DRIVE.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY POSSIBILITIES OUT THERE.
SOME MAY WORK WITH THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND SOME MAY BE THROUGH OTHER COUNCIL.
>> ISN'T THAT WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS DESIGNED TO DO IS TO WORK WITH THAT INSTEAD OF US? DEALING WITH THE WAYS AT THIS TIME, THEY GET TO DO THAT AND BRING THE BIG PICTURE TO US.
>> THANK YOU, CHRIS. I'LL LET YOU SPEAK.
>> THANKS. [LAUGHTER] I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING PROTOCOL HERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE ARCOLA STREET AND DEVELOPING THAT, AND IT'S BEEN IN COUNCIL WHERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DIAGONAL PARKING OVER THERE AND PRESERVING THAT.
WE TALKED ABOUT 10-FOOT SIDEWALKS, WE TALKED ABOUT BIKE STUFF.
OUT OF THAT, WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND GOT SOME RESIDENTS THAT SAID, ''WHAT ABOUT THIS STREET AND THIS STREET?" I GOT PROBABLY 20 STREETS THAT FOLKS SAY, ''WELL, WHAT ABOUT BIKE PATHS, OR SIDEWALKS, OR WALKING TRAILS, OR WHATEVER?'' IN ORDER TO PUT THAT ALTOGETHER, THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE THAT WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BUT WE ALSO NEEDED THE PROFESSIONAL THING AND SAY, ''THIS ROAD IS SO AND SO.
WHY WHEN WE SAY WE WANT A BIKE TRAIL, BUT IT DOESN'T FIT OR IT OBSTRUCTS RESIDENTIAL PARKING?'' AGAIN, CHRIS, YOU TALKED ABOUT NORTH DOWNING.
I WALKED THERE THE OTHER DAY AND THERE'S LOTS OF PLACES WHERE THE CONCRETE IS DIPPING OR YOU GOT CURVES, YOU GOT THESE ADA RAMPS THAT DON'T WORK.
AGAIN, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT? THE SECOND PART IS, IF YOU'RE WATCHING P&Z COUNCIL, WE'VE GOT IN SOME CASES DEVELOPMENTS OR SMALL ONE-LOT HOUSES THAT HAVE ASKED FOR VARIANCES ON SIDEWALKS.
AGAIN, WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING AT ONCE.
WHAT'S THE CITY'S STAKE IN ALL THAT? BUT IF WE HAVE SOME PRIORITIZATION OF STREETS THAT WE WANT TO DO LIKE IF IT'S MILLER OR IF IT'S PARRISH, IF IT'S WEST LIVE OAK, IF IT'S WHATEVER, THAT WE SAY OUR MAIN CORRIDORS EITHER TO PARKS OR TO SCHOOLS, THEN WE CAN FILE FOR GRANTS.
WE CAN GO AFTER THOSE SIDEWALKS AND ENFORCE THOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE HAVE PARTY SIDEWALKS VERSUS OTHER ONES WE CAN SAY, IF YOU WANT TO PUT ONE IN, BUT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED AS A CITY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CONNECT FOR THE GREATER OF ANGLETON.
I THINK IT SERVES TWO PURPOSES.
AT SOME POINT, WE'LL TRY TO ENGAGE A CONSULTANT AND SAY HERE'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAID, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK.
GIVE US THE OVERLAY AND SAY THIS CAN BE A BIKE PATH, THIS CAN'T, THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN WIDEN THE SIDEWALKS BASIS RIGHT AWAY.
CHRIS, YOU MENTIONED, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED YET, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A MASTER PLAN.
NOW, WE CAN FUND FOR IT AND SAY WE'VE GOT 25 STREETS THAT NEED SIDEWALKS OR BIKE PATHS, AND HERE'S HOW WE CAN GO AFTER IT.
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>> DO YOU WANT US TO MAKE A MOTION TOWARDS CREATING THIS THIS?
>> OKAY. A MOTION THAT WE CREATE A HIKE AND BIKE SUBCOMMITTEE.
>> DO WE KNOW HOW MANY MEMBERS? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED IN SOME OF THE MORE RECENT ADVISORY COMMITTEES.
I BELIEVE WE HAD ABOUT FIVE, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO PURSUE INITIALLY.
>> OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
>> PUT SOME SIGN THAT MOTION PASSES.
>> I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE TO BE A PART OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE
>> I THINK THEY WANT SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THE STAFF.
>> THEY DON'T WANT US. [BACKGROUND].
>> [LAUGHTER] DO YOU WANT TO BE A LIAISON?
>> I DON'T WANT IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> LIKE 100 PERCENT I TOLD THEM THAT.
>> OKAY. WHO'S READY TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE?
>> YAP [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER]
>> ITEM NUMBER 7, DISCUSSION ON PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL.
[7. Discussion on the Parks & Recreation Department personnel.]
>> YES. THE ANGLETON PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WAS APPROACHED ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PERSONNEL.
IT WAS ASKED TO ASSESS DEPARTMENTAL STAFFING NEEDS.
PROBABLY, I KNOW IT TOOK MINIMALLY A MONTH FOR US AS A LEADERSHIP STAFF, JERRY, MYSELF AND STEWART TO ASSESS EACH OF OUR NEEDS.
WE DID HAVE SOME VACANT POSITIONS WITH OUR SENIOR COORDINATOR OR RECREATION SPECIAL SENIOR COORDINATOR AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, BUT WHEN WE APPROACHED ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND, WE WERE ASKED WHAT OUR MAIN PRIORITIES WERE.
WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING WERE THE FOLLOWING PROPOSALS.
WELL, LET ME PREFACE THIS WITH, THIS MAY BE A LITTLE CONFUSING WITH ONE OF OUR PARK'S CUSTODIAN.
WE CURRENTLY OUT OF THE CURRENT ADOPTED BUDGET, WE HAD A PARK'S EMPLOYEE THAT WAS PAID 75 PERCENT OUT OF GENERAL FUND OF PARKS PERSONNEL, AND 25 PERCENT OF IT WAS PAID OUT OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER BUDGET, WHICH CAN GET A LITTLE FUZZY CONSIDERING THAT ABLC PAYS FOR 50 PERCENT OF PARKS PERSONNEL, BUT JUST STAY WITH ME.
ONE OF THE PROPOSALS WAS THAT THAT ENTITY, THAT INDIVIDUAL BE A 100 PERCENT FUNDED OUT OF PARKS PERSONNEL AND THAT WE NOT HAVE THEM AT THE RECREATION CENTER.
THEY STILL GO AND HELP WITH JUST GENERAL CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE AT THE RECREATION CENTER, BUT IT IS 100 PERCENT FUNDED OUT OF PARKS PERSONNEL IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, SO THIS PERSON MAINLY WORKS ON THE SCHEDULES, FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY, HELPS DURING WEEKEND HOURS BECAUSE WE HAVE A CUSTODIAN FULL-TIME MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.
IN THE SUMMER OR THE PEAK TIMES ON A WEEKEND, IT CAN GET VERY BUSY AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AS DOES IT IN OUR PARK SYSTEM.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE PARK RENTALS, THAT INDIVIDUAL GOES OUT AND MAKES CERTAIN THAT OUR SHELTERS ARE CLEANED AFTER EACH PARTY AND TRASH IS CLEANED UP THROUGHOUT THE EACH OF OUR PARK FACILITIES ON THE WEEKEND, AND SO THEY'RE DOING QUITE A BIT OF MAINTENANCE IN THE PARK ON THE WEEKENDS.
ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ELIMINATE THE FULL-TIME RECREATION SPECIAL SENIOR PROGRAMS, AND HIRE A PERMANENT PART-TIME REC ASSISTANT SENIOR PROGRAMS TO WORK 30 HOURS PER WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM ABOUT 8:00-2:00, TO DEVELOP ALL OF OUR SENIOR PROGRAMMING.
WE ASSESSED THIS WHEN WE HAD THE VACANT SENIOR COORDINATOR POSITION.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF PROGRAMMING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
WE WANT THAT POSITION TO BE RESTRUCTURED AND HAVE CONSISTENT PROGRAMMING, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
A LOT OF OUR PROGRAM WAS MAINLY A WEDNESDAY TYPE OF PROGRAM AND WE WOULD PARTNER WITH ACTIONS ON LUNCH MEALS, WHICH WE STILL WILL DO ONCE THEY ARE BACK OPEN FOR CONGREGATE MEALS AT THE ANGLETON REC CENTER.
BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT WE THEN CONTRACT OUT A BUS DRIVER TO TAKE SENIORS ON TRIPS THAT COULD BE SOLELY WITH THE BUS DRIVER AND THE BUS DRIVER HELPS WITH DIRECTIONS GETTING THE GROUP WHERE THEY NEED TO BE OR WE CAN ALSO PAY SOME ADDITIONAL FEES OR WORK IT INTO THE SCHEDULE OF THE PERMANENT PART-TIME SENIOR COORDINATOR.
THE CHANGE DID REDUCE; IT'S A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION, SO THIS POSITION WE PROPOSED DOES NOT GET PAID AS MUCH AS A RECREATION SPECIALIST AS IT'S BEING CHANGED DOWN TO A RECREATION ASSISTANT, MAINLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THE DUTIES HAVE CHANGED.
WE PROPOSE THAT JERRY TAKE OVER THE ADMINISTRATION OF SENIOR COMMISSION,
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WHICH SHE HAS BEEN DOING FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW, AND EVEN SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD BE MOVING OVER TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS AND MARKETING SPECIAL RECREATION SPECIALIST, JUST BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL DOING THAT AND SO IT JUST ALLOWS FOR MORE CONTINUITY WITH EVENTS AND MARKETING.THE THIRD RECOMMENDATION WAS HIRE A FULL-TIME RECREATION ASSISTANT FOR THE FRONT DESK TO IMPROVE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ALLOW FOR A FULL-TIME SUPERVISOR AT THE FRONT DESK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
IF YOU'VE BEEN AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER OR YOU'VE SEEN ANY OF OUR LISTINGS ON HR, YOU NOTICE THAT WE CONSTANTLY HAVE A FRONT DESK STAFF POSTING ONLINE AND IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE GREAT RETENTION WITH IT BEING A PART-TIME POSITION, AND SO WE HAVE SOME SOLID EMPLOYEES THAT WORK SPECIFIC SHIFTS THAT ARE VERY RELIABLE, BUT WE NEED CONTINUITY AND MESSAGING AND INFORMATION SHARING ON A CONSISTENT BASIS AND SO THIS POSITION WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
THE LAST THING WAS ELIMINATE THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND HIRE AN ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR BUDGETED OUT OF PARKS PERSONNEL.
AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, CHRIS APPROACHED US WITH SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THE GENERAL FUND WHICH ALLOWED FOR THIS CHANGE.
SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, CAN YOU DO THIS NOW THIS FISCAL YEAR WITHIN YOUR CURRENT BUDGET? WE WERE ABLE TO ASSESS THAT WE COULD BASED ON WHEN WE HIRE THESE POSITIONS AND FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR IT'D BE BUDGETED OUT OF THE FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOTTED FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
THESE FUNDS CAME ABOUT WITH JUST AN EXPIRATION OF A CONTRACT THAT WE HAD.
IT FREED UP SOME FUNDS IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH ALLOWED US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE PROPOSED CHANGES.
FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE ARE PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE ABOVE AND THEN ALSO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL PARKS CREW MEMBER WHEN LAKESIDE OPENS.
WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT TO BE JULY 1, AND ALSO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE CREW LEADER WHEN LAKESIDE PARK OPENS, WHICH AGAIN, SAME ESTIMATED DATE, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT REFLECTED IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET.
ONE LAST THING TOO, WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR THE POSITIONS AND ARE CURRENTLY PURSUING, I BELIEVE WE HAVE EXTENDED AN OFFER AND WERE TAKEN CARE OF ON THE RECREATION SIDE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CONTRACTED BUS DRIVERS. IS THAT CORRECT JERRY?
>> THE RECREATION SPECIALIST POSITION.
>> THE RECREATION SPECIALIST POSITION, THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S JUST ADDITIONAL VACANCY, THAT'S NOT A NEW OR CHANGED POSITION, BUT WE DID HAVE OUR FACILITY MANAGER ACCEPTED A JOB OUT OF PEARLAND AND SO THAT OPENED UP A VACANCY FOR A FACILITY MANAGER.
OUR RECREATION SPECIALIST FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND MARKETING WAS PROMOTED TO THE FACILITY MANAGER POSITION THAT'S, COURTNEY LANDERS, AND SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL VACANCY THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CHANGE.
BUT THOSE ARE THE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS FILLING RIGHT NOW AND WE HELD OUR FIRST ROUND OF INTERVIEWS FOR THE ASSISTANT, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR TODAY.
WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON WEDNESDAY AND HOPEFULLY MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME FINALISTS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHANGES?
>> DID I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT SOME OF THIS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF LOOKING AT DECREASING SOME OF THE FUNDING FROM THE ABLC OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? MOVING SOME OF THE ABLC, THE MONEY THAT WE PAY FOR PERSONNEL OR YOU ARE TRYING TO REDUCE THAT AMOUNT.
>> THAT COMES LATER IN THE BUDGET, BUT NO, THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THIS.
AS FAR AS SO WITHIN OUR CURRENT OPERATING BUDGET, WE WILL NOT BE EXCEEDING BUDGET DOLLARS WITH THESE CHANGES, AND SO NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THE FUNDS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAKE UP THE REMAINING SALARIES FOR A FULL YEAR ARE COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
OBVIOUSLY, THINGS ARE GROWING AT LEAST.
>> YOU ARE WORKING IN THAT DIRECTION, I GUESS THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERN ME AND IT MAYBE THAT YOU ALL ARE REALLY GOOD AT TAKING CARE OF ALL THE DETAILS AND RUNNING HERE AND THERE, YONDER, SO YOU DON'T THINK YOU NEED AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT?
>> WELL, A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT WE ORIGINALLY TASK THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT WITH WERE PROBABLY NOT ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES,
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AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED WHEN WE HIRED THAT POSITION, IS THE EXPECTATION TO MANAGE KAB AND BE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.THE EXPECTATION TO MANAGE ALL OF OUR POS AND ACCOUNTING.
WHILE IT'S VERY ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE, THAT'S A RESPONSIBILITY THAT NOT EVERYONE IS EQUIPPED TO DO UNLESS THEY'VE HAD EXPERIENCE BEING PRESENT IN ALL THE MEETINGS, TAKING MINUTES, AND JUST BEING A SUPPORTIVE STAFF AS IT RELATES TO PREPARING ALL OF THE AGENDAS.
AGAIN, WE JUST FOUND THAT THE POSITION NEEDED TO BE ELEVATED AND IT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE IN THIS FORM THAN IT WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
>> ON ANOTHER TOPIC [INAUDIBLE] DO YOU PERSONNEL WISE OR WE HAVE LIFEGUARDS AND EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW WITH THIS POOL OPEN FOR SUMMER OR DO WE HAVE A SHORTAGE?
>> I'LL REFER TO JERRY ON THAT.
>> OUR PART-TIME STAFF, WE DO.
WE JUST ACTUALLY HAD A CLASS THIS PAST WEEKEND TO RE-CERTIFY A HANDFUL OF THE LIFEGUARDS THAT WE'VE HAD COMING THROUGH, SO WE DO HAVE ENOUGH ON STAFF.
I KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FULL-TIME PERSON, WE HAVE HAD SOME FRONT DESK STAFF, THEY'RE TAKING ON MULTIPLE JOBS, SO WE ARE WORKING WITH SCHEDULES ON THAT.
THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT HOSTING, WE HAD HR POST THAT POSITION FOR FRONT DESK STAFF.
BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE OF LIKE HAVING WORKING WITH SCHEDULES, WE ARE SEEING A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH, SO WE HAVE HAD TO START WAITING LISTS WITH HOW MANY LIFEGUARDS WE HAVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO COME IN, IT'S JUST WHEN YOU HAVE CAPACITY OF 300 FOR THE POOL, BUT WE DON'T ALLOW 300 AT ONE TIME JUST BECAUSE OF THE INTENSITY OF IT.
WE USUALLY ALLOW ABOUT 200 FOLKS, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING RECENTLY.
WE HAVEN'T REACHED 200 THIS LAST WEEK, BUT WE'VE BEEN STEADILY ABOUT 100-120 PEOPLE.
>> ARE WE MORE COMPETITIVE NOW WITH BURKES AS FAR AS GETTING OUR LIFEGUARDS AND STUFF IN?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE MORE COMPETITIVE THAN BURKES FOR LIFEGUARDING. [LAUGHTER]
>> I KNOW IT WAS A PROBLEM IN FACT.
WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT THAT, AND NOT TO MENTION WHAT IN THE INDUSTRY IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU TALK TO, BUT THOSE THAT RUN SEASONAL POOLS WISH THEY RAN ANNUAL POOLS, AS THOUGH THAT RAN ANNUAL POOLS [LAUGHTER] WISH THEY ONLY HAD SEASONAL POOLS.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING A SEASONAL POOL, YOU HAVE THE FLOOD OF, HEY, THESE COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE HOME, THEY NEEDED A SUMMER JOB.
SO YOU HAVE MORE APPLICANTS IN THE SUMMER THAN YOU DO YEAR-ROUND.
IT IS INCREDIBLY HARD TO STAFF OUR POOL AT 5:00 AM IN THE MORNING.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASSESS AND JERRY IS LOOKING INTO WITH RESPECT TO WHERE ARE OUR ATTENDANCE NUMBERS AND IS THIS COST-EFFECTIVE? WE MAY IN THE FUTURE LOOK AT OUR POOL HOURS AND AS IT RELATES TO INCOME AND REALLY TRY TO DRIVE DOWN WHEN WE NEED TO BE OPERATING THAT FACILITY.
FOR THOSE THAT RUN SEASONAL POOLS, IT'S A HEADACHE, MAKING SURE THEY'RE MAINTAINED YEAR-ROUND, AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY PREFER TO HAVE AN ANNUAL OPERATING POOL, AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE CONSISTENT EMPLOYEES.
BUT WE HAVE FOUND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE.
IT'S PRETTY HARD TO RETAIN EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
>> OKAY. YOU DIDN'T NEED A MOTION ON THAT?
[8. Discuss and provide comment on the preliminary Parks, Right-of-Way, and Recreation division budgets for fiscal years 2021-2022.]
PARKS RIGHT AWAY AND RECREATION BUDGETS.>> YES. I BELIEVE I ACTUALLY INCLUDED QUITE A BIT MORE THAN WHAT I'VE LISTED HERE, SO YOU CAN IGNORE [INAUDIBLE] OR LOOK AT IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
>> I WAS GOING TO PRINT IT OUT BUT THEN I SAW A 204 PAGES.
>> [LAUGHTER] I REALLY APPRECIATE THE NEW FORMAT THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WERE WORKING WITH DEPARTMENTALLY.
WE HAD OUR OWN SPREADSHEETS AND [INAUDIBLE] HAS DEVELOPED TO THESE NEW EXCELS THAT SHOW YOU THE COMPARISON OF LAST YEAR WHERE WE WERE SPENDING OUR MONEY AS IT RELATES TO DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE BUDGET, WHETHER IT'S PERSONNEL SERVICES, MAINTENANCE, GENERAL SERVICES, AND SO THOSE GRAPHS ARE THE FIRST THING THAT YOU SEE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE PROJECTED, CURRENT YEAR AND THEN REQUESTED FOR NEXT YEAR AND HOW THAT CHANGES.
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SOME OF THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT I'LL NOTE TO THE BUDGET INCLUDE REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND RIGHT AWAY, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER IN THAT LAST ITEM, SALARIES AND PARKS FOR AN ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR AND CUSTODIAN, CONTRACT LABOR FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT AND PARK INFRASTRUCTURE, SO THAT'S MAINLY IN OUR PARK BUDGET AND RIGHT AWAY BUDGET.WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT LABOR FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S REALLY FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
WE'VE NEVER REALLY BUDGETED FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, BUT AS WE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE LAST ITEM, THERE ARE SEVERAL PARTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
SO A DESIGN MAY BE REQUIRED FOR SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS, AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE CONTRACT LABOR FEES IN THERE.
THEN PARK INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU GUYS WANTED TO KNOW WHAT ALL THE PROBLEMS ARE AND WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU.
[LAUGHTER] BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GRADUALLY GIVE YOU PIECES OF, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK IS REASONABLE TO PUT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, BUT I THINK, WHAT DID WE ASSESS? WE HAVE A TABULATION OF MAJOR PROJECTS IN ALL OF OUR PARK SYSTEMS THAT WE KNOW OF.
THESE AREN'T EVEN IDEAS WE HAVE.
THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE KNOW OF IN ADDITION TO ITEMS THAT THE ASSOCIATIONS HAVE BROUGHT TO US AND IT'S WELL OVER $300,000 WORTH OF REPAIRS.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.
IN THE REC DIVISION, WE TOOK A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THE BUDGET [INAUDIBLE] RECREATION REVENUES ARE INCREASING, ESPECIALLY THIS SUMMER SINCE EVERYTHING HAS OPENED UP, STAFF IS UNSURE IF WE'LL RETURN TO PRE-COVID REVENUES.
SO OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON AN AVERAGE OF PRE-COVID FISCAL YEAR REVENUE AND A COVID YEAR REVENUE.
WE JUST AVERAGE THOSE TWO TO BE CONSERVATIVE.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE OPENING BACK UP, IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO NORMAL.
HOWEVER, IF REVENUE EXCEEDS OUR EXPECTATIONS, THE RECREATION DIVISION, WE'D LIKE TO ADDRESS VARIOUS MAINTENANCE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ITEMIZED AND ATTACHED IN THE ENCLOSED.
I ACTUALLY PROVIDED THAT FOR YOU, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS IN THERE SO THAT LAST COUPLE OF PAGES ACTUALLY IS THOSE PROJECTS THAT I WAS JUST REFERRING TO.
THEY ARE PAGES 59 AND 60, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE ASSESSED THAT OUR NEEDS THESE, IN ORDER TO NOT DISCLOSE THE ACTUAL AMOUNTS WE PROVIDED ESTIMATES, BUT WE HAVE QUOTES FOR ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ITEMS. WOW, I WAS WAY OFF, MY APOLOGIES.
NOT $300,000, $3.1 MILLION OF IMPROVEMENTS [LAUGHTER] ARE LISTED THERE.
[LAUGHTER] WE MUST HAVE ADDED IN SOME OF THAT MOSCOW LIGHTING RECENTLY.
[LAUGHTER] THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT ASKING FOR 3.1 IN PROJECTS.
>> OH, NO, VETERANS PARK, [NOISE] WE TALKED ABOUT WHATEVER'S GOING TO REPLACE A GAZEBO.
WILL MARTHA'S BUDGET OR ANY OTHER BUDGET BE ABLE [OVERLAPPING] TO REDUCE THAT?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO TO SEE IF WE CAN USE ANY OTHER FUND DOLLARS TO HELP WITH A CONCEPT PLAN.
>> THOSE CONCEPTS SEEM TO BE A HIT COMING BACK FOR THE MOST PART.
I THINK THERE'S ONE OR TWO MAYOR RAINED OUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF MONEY THROUGH SOMETHING ELSE.
>> ACTUALLY, ON THAT SHEET YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS OF MONEY, AND SO THE ARA IS THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT'S COMING OUT FROM AMERICA'S RECOVERY ACT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR STIPULATIONS ARE GOING TO BE, BUT WE DO BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT CHRIS? THE ARA, AND SO THAT MAY BE THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
ONCE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE, THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER FUNDING MECHANISM FOR US.
>> HAVE YOU NOT TOLD THE BOARD ABOUT THE OUTDOOR POOL, THAT IT'S FIXED IN THE [INAUDIBLE]?
>> I BELIEVE IT'S THERE ON OUR PARKS UPDATES.
IT'S NOT AN INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEM, BUT YES.
CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE THE DEMOLITION OF THE MUNICIPAL POOL, SO WE WILL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AFTER THE AGREEMENT IS EXECUTED.
DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? [BACKGROUND]
>> PERHAPS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION, I DON'T CARE, BUT ARA?
>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S THE AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT. YEAH.
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>> I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE [NOISE] WE MOVE ON WITH [INAUDIBLE].
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE SOME OF THESE PLACES ARE, I FINALLY FIGURED OUT MUNICIPAL PARK AS MENTIONED, SOMEWHERE IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHERE THE POOL WAS DISAPPEARING.
YOU'RE CALLING THAT MUNICIPAL PARK [OVERLAPPING].
THE BRUSHY BAYOU WAS MENTIONED LIKE TWO, THREE TIMES AND I NEVER WAS QUITE SURE IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING PARK.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BRUSHY BAYOU [OVERLAPPING] FOR TRAILS [OVERLAPPING].
>> NO, WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT A WALKING TRAIL JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING DEVELOPED.
LIKE CHRIS MENTIONED, OUT OF THE HIKE AND BIKE WE HOPE TO MOVE FORWARD PROBABLY NEXT YEAR OR POTENTIALLY NEXT FISCAL YEAR IF FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FOR A TRANSPORTATION MASTERPLAN, AT WHICH POINT WE'LL HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME DIRECTIVES LIKE BRUSHY BAYOU. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE MENTIONED HERE THAT MENTIONS BRUSHY BAYOU [OVERLAPPING].
>>ARE SPECIFICALLY THE PARK, RIGHT.
JUST BECAUSE WHEN WE START LOOKING AT OUR MINIMUM PARK STANDARDS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING OUR MINIMUM PARK STANDARDS AND THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR.
ALMOST ALL OF OUR PARKS, HONESTLY, WE HAVE GOTTEN [OVERLAPPING].
YES. ADA ACCESSIBILITY IS ONE OF THOSE.
>> DID YOU TALK ABOUT THAT [INAUDIBLE] BUDGET?
>> TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN?
>> YES. SO WE HAVE TENTATIVELY IN THE BUDGET ADA TRANSITION PLAN, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO PARKS AND THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.
WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IS WE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND ASSESS ALL OF OUR FACILITIES AND HELP US PROVIDE A TRANSITION PLAN.
BY ADA REQUIREMENTS, WERE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO HAVE THIS PLAN IN PLACE AND BE WORKING TOWARDS BEING ADA COMPLIANT OR AT LEAST SHOWING, "HERE'S OUR PLAN AND HERE IS HOW WE ARE PLANNING ON GETTING THERE," IF THAT'S A FIVE-YEAR, OR TEN-YEAR, 20-YEAR PLAN." THAT'S WHAT THAT WILL DO FOR US.
>> HAS THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITH LAKESIDE PARK DESIGN, THAT ACCESS DOWN TO THE WATER AND IT'S ALL [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT HAS TO. YEAH, THEY HAVE TO BUILD IT TO 88.
THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE PARKS THAT ARE INCOMPLETE.
>> YOU'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT?
[9. Discuss and provide comment on the draft Capital Improvements Plan (CIP).]
ITEM 9; DISCUSS AND PROVIDE COMMENT ON THE DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.>>YES. SO WITHIN OUR CHARTER UNDER CHAPTER 17, PARKS AND RECREATION, ARTICLE TWO, PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, "THE COMMISSION SHALL HAVE THE POWER AND SHALL BE REQUIRED TO NOT LESS THAN 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET YEAR.
A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS CAPITAL PROJECTS BUDGET SHOULD INCLUDE IMMEDIATE AND LONG REACH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS PARK ACQUISITION, DEVELOP [INAUDIBLE] OF NEW AND PRESENT PARK SITES AND PROCUREMENT AND INSTALLATION PLANS FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, AS WELL AS POSSIBLE RECREATION PROGRAMS SUCH AS SHALL BE ARRANGED IN ORDER OF PRIORITY." WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT THE CITY AS A WHOLE HAS BEEN WORKING ON.
THIS IS JUST A DRAFT OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AND IT ESSENTIALLY LISTS PRIMARILY THE PARKS AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND BEYOND.
PLEASE DO NOT FOCUS TOO MUCH ON THE AMOUNTS.
THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES, AND WHAT THEY ARE TAKEN FROM IS EITHER INFORMATION RECEIVED FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
I KNOW CLARA HAD A QUESTION FOR ME ABOUT THE DOG PARK AND I WAS TAKING THOSE NUMBERS FROM JEREMY ABOVE [INAUDIBLE] LIKE JACKSON WHO HAD JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED THEIR DOG PARK.
WHAT I DO WHEN WE LOOK AT CONCEPT PLANNING IS I TAKE 10 PERCENT OF THAT.
YOU'LL SEE CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THIS DOCUMENT, IF I'VE GOT A $25,000 NUMBER OR $50,000 NUMBER OR $60,000 NUMBER, AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, $600,000.
THAT'S 10 PERCENT OF THAT FOR DESIGN.
SO WE'RE CONTRACTION, DESIGNING CONTRACTION.
THIS WILL CHANGE. THIS IS A DRAFT.
[NOISE] BUT WE WOULD LOVE ANY INPUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS, A LOT OF WHAT WE DO OR HOW WE DEVELOPED THIS WAS LOOKING AT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION, MASTERING STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE HAD SHORT-TERM, MID-TERM, AND LONG-TERM GOALS.
THEY WERE BASICALLY OUTLINED IN THAT WAY, IF IT WAS A SHORT-TERM GOAL, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT IN THE COMING YEARS.
IF IT WAS LONG-TERM LIKE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, IMPROVEMENTS INSIDE, MOST CERTAINLY THAT IS A LONG-TERM GOAL FOR A REC CENTER EXPANSION.
HOWEVER, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ACTUALLY MAKING OUTSIDE PARK AMENITIES TO MAKE THAT AN ACTUAL PARK.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SO FEW COMPONENTS OUT THERE.
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IT'S NOT REALLY DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL ACCESSIBLE PARK.THAT IS AN AREA THAT COULD DEFINITELY IMPROVE OUR WALKABILITY TO A PARK FOR RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA.
>> DID YOU USE THE PARK FEES THAT YOU'LL GET TO THE LDC IN ANY OF THESE OR IS THAT JUST?
>> ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE UP TO ABOUT $150,000 FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED TODAY, THE ITEMS ON PAGE 59 AND 60.
WE CAN, AS A GROUP, DESIGNATE WHAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS AND WE'LL KNOW WHAT ARE THE MOST IMMEDIATE.
EVEN INTERNALLY AS A STAFF, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE JUST GOT TO DO.
EITHER TO BE LIKE "ADA IS A BIG DEAL" AND MAKING SURE THAT SOME OF THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR FIRST CHECKMARKS THAT WE ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'LL USE THOSE FUNDS FOR SOME OF THAT.
THOSE FUNDS CAN ALSO BE USED FOR PARKLAND ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT, IMPROVEMENTS, AND MAINTENANCE.
>> HOW MANY OF YOU TALKED TO ME ABOUT CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH IS STARTING UP THIS WEEK.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THE CHARTER AND WE'RE PRESENTING THIS TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
IT SAYS WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS, RECLAIM.
PRESENTING THIS TO YOU ALL, BUT THIS IS REALLY A GOOD TOOL FOR US BECAUSE IF THE COUNTS AND COMES BACK AND SAYS, "WHAT'S ON THE LIST IS NOT GETTING DONE FROM THE BUDGET THAT WE SUBMIT." HERE'S THE TOOL FOR US TO GO BACK AND SAY, "HERE'S THE REDESIGN OF THE OLD MUNICIPAL POOL AND WE'RE GOING TO RENAME IT ONCE WE GET THE RENAMING POLICY." THAT GIVES US THE TOOLS TO THEN GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY, "HERE'S OUR PARTIES BY DEPARTMENT." IF WE FIND EXTRA MONEY IN THE BUDGET OR THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE TAX RATE, "HERE'S THE PROJECTS WE HAVE OFF THE SHELF THAT WE CAN PROVIDE." WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN FIVE YEARS.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS OUR FIRST STAB AT IT AND WE'LL GET BETTER AT IT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
IF YOU ALL HELP US PRIORITIZE IT, AGAIN, MEGAN'S GOING OFF OF WHAT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK LIKE, "HEY, WHAT ABOUT X, Y, AND Z?" THERE'S THINGS LIKE THE HIKING BIKE TRAIL, AND WE HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT YET WHAT THE COST IS AND HAVE A GET AFTER THAT.
BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES, WE'LL CATEGORIZE IT, WE'LL PRICE IT, AND THEN WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
>>JUST HAVING WORKED THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE OUR COUNCIL, WE KNOW THINGS CHANGE BASED ON MONIES AVAILABLE BUT HAVING SOME SORT OF A DIRECTION.
THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WANT TO HAVE.
THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAPPEN IN QUITE THE YEAR THAT YOU THINK YOU WANT TO PUT THEM THERE BECAUSE THE MONEY IS NOT QUITE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
ANOTHER THING SUDDENLY GETS DONE BECAUSE A POT OF MONEY SHOWS UP LIKE A HUGE GRANT SOMEWHERE OR SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T REALIZE IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT JUST HAVING THIS GUIDELINE IS REALLY GOOD AND I'LL HAVE TO SAY YOU CONCENTRATE ON THE NUMBERS BECAUSE I KEPT SEEING THOSE.
[LAUGHTER] IT MIGHT TAKE YEARS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE WILL JUGGLE AROUND A LITTLE BIT BASED ON MONIES AVAILABLE.
BUT EVERYTHING LOOKED GOOD TO ME.
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> I KNOW WE CAN FIND MORE THINGS TO ADD TO THAT.
>>YES. [LAUGHTER] ABSOLUTELY. ANYTIME.
[10. Recreation Updates]
>> GOOD EVENING. WE'LL GO OVER SOME RECREATION UPDATES.
POOL SLIDE, APLC APPROVED THE LCI BID FOR $59,383.70 AT THE APRIL 19TH MEETING, WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED THAT AGREEMENT AT THE MAY 11TH MEETING.
LCI CAME OUT AND ASSESSED THE SITE, THE FOURTH OF THIS MONTH.
WE ARE WAITING A START DATE WITH THEM TO GET THAT SLIDE PREPARED OR TO BEGIN THOSE REPAIRS.
FILL THE POOL DOORS AND THE AQUATIC AREA.
AVLC APPROVED THE NOW COVID FOR 39,982 AT THE APRIL 19TH MEETING, WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED THE AGREEMENT AT THE MAY 11TH MEETING.
NABUCCO CAME OUT TO ASSESS THE AREA MID MAY AND AS AN UPDATE OF THE SIXTH OF THIS MONTH, MATERIALS HAD BEEN ORDERED AND STAFF ARE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE PROJECT MANAGER TO SET UP A SCHEDULE FOR THE UPDATE TO BEGIN.
FOR THE ROOF, JAYCO COMPLETED THE PROJECT AT THE END OF APRIL
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AND PROVIDED WARRANTING FORMS FOR STAFF ON MAY 5TH.AFTER RAIN EVENTS IN MAY WE FOUND A FEW LEAKS.
JAYCO HAS FIXED ONE OUT OF THOSE THREE LEAKS.
AS OF THE 8TH OF THIS MONTH, WE ARE WAITING FOR JAYCO TO SCHEDULE A WATER TEST TO DETERMINE LOCATION OF OTHER LEAKS.
THIS OTHER LEAKS ARE LOCATED, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE REC CENTER, THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN FIXED WAS IN THE PUMP ROOM, THE POOL AREA.
THE OTHER TWO WHICH WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM WE BELIEVE WE HAVE IT FIXED, IT'S THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS IN ROOM 2.
HOW WE NOTICED IS THAT WET CEILING TILES.
THE OTHER SPOT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE GYM DOOR IF YOU'RE WALKING INTO THE GYM, SO WE ARE WAITING SOME INFORMATION FROM JAYCO ON THAT.
FREEDOM FIREWORKS IS SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, JULY 3RD, AT THE RESORT COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS, AND WE'LL BEGIN AT 9:20 P.M. SKY WONDER HAS BEEN CONTRACTED FOR THIS YEAR.
IT WILL BE LIVE STREAMING MUSIC WITH THE SHOW VIA AN FM TRANSMITTER.
WE WILL ANNOUNCE THE RADIO STATION VIA SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND PDS, DIGITAL SIGNAGE ON SITE THE DAY OF.
EVENTS AND PROGRAMS REGISTRATION FOR FOURTH-QUARTER EVENTS AND PROGRAMS FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.
REGISTRATION OPEN FOR TENTH OF THIS MONTH IS THE LAST THURSDAY AT 5:00 AM.
PROGRAMS INCLUDED AND EVENTS INCLUDED, WE ARE HAVING A SENIOR WELCOME BACK PARTY.
SOME SENIOR TRIPS, WE HAVE TWO PLANNED.
WE HAVE THE THEATER AND THE SCALAR.
WE HAVE A PAINTING CLASS WITH JANET AND COTS, LITTLE KICKERS, WHICH IS AN INTRO TO A SOCCER FOR LITTLE KIDS.
WE HAVE JUNIOR ANGULAR COMING BACK, WHICH WE HAD HOSTED COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
WE'RE GOING TO POST THAT IN SEPTEMBER.
WE'RE PLANNING A SUMMER TIP OFF CLASSIC BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT.
JULY IS ALSO NATIONAL PARKS AND RECOMMENDS.
WE HAVE TWO FAMILY EVENTS PLANED.
ONE IS MAYBE IN THE PARK ON JULY 15TH, WE'LL BE SCREENING TROLLS OUT AT FREEDOM PARK, AND THEN THE HOME RUN DERBY, WHICH WE ARE WORKING WITH THE GIRLS SOFTBALL AND ANGLETON TX TO HOST, WHICH WILL BE THE 31ST OF JULY AS WELL.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
[11. Discussion on Parks Division updates.]
IT'S GOING TO BE THE PARKS DIVISION UPDATES.AT THE END YOU HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION THAT I PASSED OUT FOR AN UPDATE ON LAKE SIDE PARK.
A RUNDOWN ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN PARKS.
FINALLY GOT CAUGHT UP ON OUR MODELING FROM ALL THOSE BRAIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
I'M TRYING TO GET BACK ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE.
TOMORROW NIGHT AT WESTON PARK, WE HAVE A PARK WATCH PROGRAM.
RESTAFF, PARK STAFF BE OUT THERE.
GIVEN A PROGRAM ON NEIGHBORHOOD.
PEOPLE VISIT THE PARK, WATCHING UNUSUAL THINGS GOING ON THAT NEED TO BE REPORTED.
WE'RE GOING TO BE SERVING PIZZA INSTEAD OF HOT DOGS NOW.
HOPING EVERYONE WOULD COME OUT AND BE FROM 6:00-8:00 P.M. BASE PARK, THE STAFF WAS OUT THERE HELPING WITH THE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION GET RID FOR THE STATE TERM IN, MODELING AND FIXED ANNUITIES AND REPAIRS ON THE FIELDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT HABITUALLY GETTING POSTPONED OR RESCHEDULED FOR THE END OF IT.
WE CAN'T END IN THIS MONTH, SO WE'LL BE REPEATING THAT PROCESS.
DICKEY PARK. CURRENTLY WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING THE STORY WALL DISPLAYS.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT SIX, SEVEN LEFT TO INSTALL.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT WRAPPED UP BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE SMALLER PLAYGROUNDS WE'RE REMOVING, GETTING READY FOR THE NEW INSTALLATION OF A NEW PLAYGROUND.
WE HOPEFULLY GET THAT WRAPPED UP IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
ALONG WITH THE RELOCATE OF VOLLEYBALL COURT.
BG PEGS, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET, WE GOT THE PARKING LOT STRIPED AT THEIR FREEDOM PART.
WE JUST INSTALLED TWO CHANGING STATIONS IN A RESTROOMS, MEN'S AND WOMEN'S RESTROOMS OUT THERE TO HELP ACCOMMODATE THOSE FOLKS.
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VETERAN PARK WAS OUT THERE THIS MORNING, HELPING SETUP FOR THE FLAG DAY CEREMONY.WELL, JUNE 21ST WE HAVE SCHEDULED TO CONTRACT TO GO OUT AND REMOVE THE POLES AND THE CONCRETE STRUCTURES THAT ARE LEFT OUT THERE.
HOPEFULLY THEY CAN GET DONE WITH IT IN A FEW DAYS.
THE PROCESS, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO PULL THE POSE AND LET THEM LAY AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND GATHER THEM UP AND STACK THEM UP, TO SAVE SOME COST ON THE CONTRACTOR FOR THAT.
AS MEGAN MENTIONED, THE MUNICIPAL POOLS IN THE PROCESS BEEN DEMOED.
RECOGNIZE THE PARK STAFF ALL THE WORK THEY'VE BEEN DOING, ESPECIALLY TO GET READY FOR THE STATE SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT.
THEY'RE OUT THERE, LIKE I SAID, DOING SOME MAINTENANCE ON THE FIELDS HELPING OUT THE ASSOCIATION GET READY BECAUSE WE KNEW IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY WITH OUTSIDE VISITORS COMING IN.
I'D LIKE TO COMMEND THEM FOR GREAT JOB THEY DID OUT THERE. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> ONE ABOUT THIS SOCCER COMPLEX.
DID YOU HAVE SOMEONE DO ELEVATION SHOTS?
>> HE CAME OUT AND HE TOOK A LOOK AT THE FIELDS AND GAVE HIS RECOMMENDATION WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
HE SAID HE COULD [INAUDIBLE] HE GAVE ME A BUDGET NUMBER OF AROUND $8,000 A FEE TO GET IT RE SLOPED.
>> THE COMMENT MADE ABOUT THE WHOLE TRAIL THAT WENT AROUND THE PARK HOLD WATER BACK.
IS THAT SOMETHING HE FOUND, OR DID HE EVEN LOOK FOR THAT?
>> I REALLY DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.
I WAS OUT THERE AFTER WE GOT ALL THE RAIN AND THE MOST OF THE WATER THAT ARE SEEN WERE CONCENTRATED, WAS ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THAT COMPLEX.
IT WAS DRAINING OUT TOWARD THE EAST DOWN THE PARK, THE INTER TRUE IT WAS PRETTY MUCH ALIKE AT THAT TIME.
I WENT OUT THERE A FEW DAYS LATER.
ACTUALLY, THE BIGGEST ISSUE WAS GETTING TO THE FIELDS.
THE FIELD LOOKED PRETTY GOOD IN SHAPE.
IT WAS JUST THE AREAS SURROUNDING THE FIELDS THAT WAS STILL IN THE WATER.
[INAUDIBLE] WHAT ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO AFTER THE RAINS.
THEN WE CAME IN AND WRAP BEHIND HIM WHICH HE WAS STILL WET AND WE MOVED.
I MEAN, ONCE YOU REGRADE THE FIELDS, I MEAN, YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT WATER THAT'S COMING OFF OF IT.
IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT, IT'S JUST GOING TO PILE UP IN BETWEEN THE FIELDS WHERE THE SPECTATORS ARE AT.
WE TALKED TO THE ASSOCIATION PROBABLY DOING ONE FIELD A YEAR.
GRADUALLY GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
IS THERE ENOUGH MURRAM OUT THERE TO DO ANY KIND OF A DETENTION AREA?
>> BECAUSE MOST OF IT'S OWN LAND FIELDS, SO YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL [OVERLAPPING] REALLY THERE'S NOT A LOT LESS YOU [OVERLAPPING] THEY GIVE A COUPLE OF FIELDS.
>> THE ONLY PLACE THAT I THOUGHT POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT CAN'T PENETRATE THE MILES.
BUT WHEN YOU COME ON THE FETUS STREET AND THERE'S AN OPEN AREA, BUT FOR SOME REASON IN THE PAST THAT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WAS INSIDE THE PERIMETER OF THE PART.
I'M THINKING THE CITY ONSET BECAUSE THAT AREA IS ONLY PLACE THAT YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY DIG DETENTION.
>> ON THE PARK UPDATES ITEM, YOU'LL SEE THAT ELECTRONICALLY YOUR AGENDA IS UPDATED TO INCLUDE LAKESIDE PARK UPDATE, AND THEN I ALSO PROVIDED A PAPER COPY INCASE YOU DID NOT, WELL I KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY REVIEW THIS IN ADVANCE.
I WANT TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE REGARDING LAKESIDE PARK CONSTRUCTION BIDS.
WE RECEIVED BIDS THE DEADLINE WAS MAY 13TH, WE HAD TWO CONSTRUCTION BIDS FROM DL MEACHAM LP, [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION LLC.
AT THE END OF MAY, EVALUATIONS WERE COMPLETED.
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BY MAY 26 AND 27, EVALUATIONS WERE RECEIVED.THE HIGHEST RANKING CONTRACTOR WAS DL MEACHAM LPS, SO THOSE EVALUATIONS ARE THE TABULATION IS IN THE PACKET, AND THE PAPER DOCUMENTS THAT I PROVIDED YOU.
[NOISE] AT THE END OF MAY, STACK WAS NOTIFIED THAT THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT DID NOT AWARD ANGLETON, THE BOAT OR ACCESS GRANT OR RECREATION TRAILS GRANT THAT WE HAD APPLIED FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR LAKESIDE PARK.
THAT AMOUNTED TO ABOUT 700,000 THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO OFFSET SOME OF THESE COSTS.
HOWEVER, WE WERE INVITED TO REAPPLY FOR THE RECREATIONAL TRAILS GRANT IN THE FALL, SO THAT'S ABOUT $200,000 THAT WE COULD ACQUIRE FOR THE PARK, AND STILL POTENTIALLY UTILIZING CONSTRUCTION SINCE THE BEGINNING WE'RE HOPING CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN THIS SUMMER, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ACTUAL TRAILS MAY BE OR COULD POTENTIALLY BE DELAYED.
SO IF WE WERE AWARDED THAT, WE COULD WORK WITH SCHEDULING, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRAIL IS ACTUALLY IN THE PARK IF WE'RE AWARDED NEXT YEAR.
WE HAVE PROPOSED SCHEDULE OF MEETINGS SOME OF WHICH HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED.
WE TALKED TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED, AND POTENTIAL CUTS, AND THEN WE ARE PRESENTING THE SAME INFORMATION TO YOU ALL, WE'LL PRESENT THIS TO ABLC TO DISCUSS AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THIS ON AS A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
IF YOU ALL WOULD PROVIDE SOME INPUT AND COMMENT, WE CAN TAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF AN UPDATE TO ABLC WHO COULD THEN PROVIDE US WITH A PROPOSAL FOR CITY COUNCIL, AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
STAFF HAS ASSESSED THE POTENTIAL RESOURCES AND CUTS WITH CLERK CONDON.
SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL FUNDING RESOURCES INCLUDE A $150,000 TPW REIMBURSEMENT, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT WAS THE INITIAL GRANT THAT STARTED THIS PROJECT.
WE HAVE BEEN REIMBURSED THOSE FUNDS AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN APPLIED ANYWHERE AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE SAVINGS FROM DESIGN WORK, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER WILL BE AT, BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING ANYWHERE FROM $80,000 TO A $100,000 IN DESIGN WORK, OR MORE, AND REAPPLYING FOR THE TPW TRAIL GRANT WITH THE AMOUNT OF $200,000.
USING GENERAL FUND RESERVES IS ANOTHER POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, USING PARKLAND DEDICATION FUNDS, WHICH I HAD ALREADY MENTIONED.
WE'RE UP TO ABOUT A 150,000, IN OUR PARKLAND'S DEDICATION FUNDS, OR ALSO APPROACHING ABLC ABOUT DOING A GENERAL FUND TRANSFER.
ACTUALLY WHAT THIS IS IN REGARDS TO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ABLC BUDGET, I HAD MENTIONED THAT WE DID A TRANSFER FROM ABLC TO PAY FOR 50 PERCENT OF PARKS PERSONNEL.
WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS BRINGING THAT LOWER, BECAUSE AT ONE OF THE ABLC MEETINGS THAT WE HAD THEY REQUESTED THAT THEIR MONEY BE SPENT ON PARK PROJECTS, OR OTHER PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECTS.
BY REDUCING THE COST OR THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE TRANSFERRING FROM ABLC TO PAY FOR PARKS PERSONNEL, THAT REDUCES THE AMOUNT THAT ABLC HAS TO PAY BY 25 PERCENT.
THAT IS ABOUT OVER $200,000 IN SAVINGS, THAT WE ARE THEN GOING TO RECOMMEND WE SPEND ON PARK AND RECREATION PROJECTS.
WITH THOSE SAVINGS, WE COULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT THE PART OF WHAT THEY USE IT FOR, IS WHAT WE HAVE IN EXCESS.
WITHIN YOUR PACKET, [NOISE] LET'S SEE HERE.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED, WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT CUTS THAT WOULD BRING US DOWN TO A NUMBER THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE TRULY WITH OUR $150,000 TPW GRANT AND DESIGN.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET, BUT THAT'S MY HOPE, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK ANYONE FOR MONEY, WE'LL JUST HAVE IT REMAINING IN THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVEN'T USED.
SOME OF THESE CONSIST OF IT'S GROUPED BY SITE PREPARATION, SITE ITEMS, PLAN ADJUSTMENTS, PLAYGROUND SURFACING AND PAVILION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SHEET, THIS IS POTENTIAL VALUE ENGINEERING.
IT NOTES THE COMMENTS, AND THE ACTUAL BID LINE ITEM UNDER THE ORIGINAL BID TABULATION.
THAT'S GOING TO CORRESPOND WITH THE ORIGINAL BID TABULATION FROM THE VENDORS, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF FEELS THAT WE CAN TAKE IN HOUSE,
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EXISTING TREE REMOVAL IF YOU REMEMBER.IF YOU WENT OUT THERE ON SITE WITH US, THERE'S A DEAD TREE OUT THERE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE'S ONLY ONE.
I THINK WE CAN HANDLE THAT IN HOUSE.
EXISTING MAINTENANCE PURE REMOVAL.
STEWART WENT OUT THERE TO ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD REMOVE THAT, HE FEELS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, SO WE FEEL WE CAN TAKE THAT IN HOUSE.
SITE ITEMS THAT WE CAN REDUCE ON COSTS INCLUDE SAND BLASTING.
I MEAN SOME OF THESE ARE FINISHING TOUCHES TO SOME AREAS, CONCRETE STEPS TO KAYAK LAUNCH.
IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER IN THE INITIAL LAYOUT, THERE WERE TWO SETS, TWO BANKS OF CONCRETE STEPS DOWN TO THE KAYAK LAUNCH, WE WOULD ELIMINATE ONE TO REDUCE COSTS, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR MAIN POINT OF ACCESS WHERE THE ADA TRIAL CAME IN.
DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AND PUMPING CLOSURE, SO WE ASK THEM TO QUOTE OUT WHAT WE HAD INSTALLED OR HAVE INSTALLED AS OUR NEW STANDARD AT FREEDOM PARK AND BATES PARK, AND THEY CAME IN WELL OVER WHAT WE HAD QUOTED FROM THE VENDOR THAT DID IT FOR US ORIGINALLY.
I WANT TO SAY IT WAS UNDER THE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 21,000 FOR BOTH, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER 75,000 [OVERLAPPING] TOTAL.
RIGHT. ONE THING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EVEN CHRISTIAN CLERIC CAME TO THE COUNCIL MEETING, A LOT OF WHAT YOU SEE WITH SOME OF THESE BIDS ARE, CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES ARE GOING TO LOWBALL SOME AREAS, LIKE SOME OF THE BID ALTERNATE THAT WE SAW FOR BURYING THE ELECTRICAL THAT YOU SEE AROUND THE PARK ON THE SERVICE ENTRANCE, AND MOVING THE PUMP.
WE WANT TO ADD THAT BACK INTO THEIR BID BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN GET IT DONE FOR WHAT THEY QUOTED.
WE'VE HAD QUOTES FROM OTHER ELECTRICIANS THAT ARE WELL OVER WHAT THEY QUOTED.
BUT THEN IN RETURN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE WELL OVER WHAT THEY SHOULD BE, AND SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH A STAFF TO TRY AND ASSESS WHAT THOSE ARE.
SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, SITE MOSQUE BOULDERS, GETTING RID OF THOSE, THEY DEFINITELY OVERCROWDED THE NUMBER OF BIKE RACKS WE NEED AT THE FACILITY.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING REMOVAL OF THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN BECAUSE WE'VE PARTNERED WITH OTHER GROUPS TO INSTALL BUTTERFLY GARDEN AND WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT FOR FAR LESS THAN WHAT IS QUOTED HERE AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT.
WE'RE NOT SAYING ELIMINATE IT FROM THE PROJECT.
WE JUST DON'T WANT TO PURSUE IT WITH A CONTRACTOR.
REDUCING, PLANTING, OTHER PLANTING BEDS, AND SOME ASSOCIATED IRRIGATION, 60-DAY LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE.
WE FEEL THAT WE CAN HANDLE THAT IN HOUSE REDUCING PARKING LOT LIGHTING AND PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING AND MAINTENANCE TRAIL NEAR ANGKOR ROAD, JUST REDUCING THE THICKNESS OF SOME OF THESE THINGS.
THE LAST TWO ITEMS AND THIS WAS MY RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE NOT IMPACT OR WE DON'T REDUCE SOME OF THESE CUTS ON THE PAVILION OR THE PLAYGROUND SURFACING BECAUSE THEY ARE SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE PARK THAT MADE THIS PARK SPECIAL.
THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH MAKING SOME OF THESE CHANGES ON THE PAVILION, THESE ARE PRETTY MASSIVE CHANGES WHICH MAY LIKELY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DESIGN WORK, WHICH WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR.
WHILE YOU'RE REDUCING COSTS, WHAT'S THE TRADE-OFF? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE.
THE OTHER THING WITH THE PLAYGROUND SURFACING IS EVEN IN THE CONCEPT OF PLANNING, WE HAD RESIDENTS THAT WANTED THIS TO BE A UNIVERSAL PARK.
THE MOMENT YOU CHANGE THAT TO AN A.W.F SURFACING, WHILE IT'S ADA ACCESSIBLE, IT IS NOT UNIVERSALLY ACCESSIBLE.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU DO A 10,000-DOLLAR CUT WITH CHANGING THE BASE TO A GRAVEL BASE RATHER THAN A CONCRETE BASE, WHICH REDUCES IT BY 10.
BUT YOU KEEP THE PORT IN PLACE, SURFACING IN THAT PLAYGROUND SYSTEM.
BASED OFF OF THOSE CALCULATIONS AND REDUCTIONS OF ALL OF THOSE CUTS, NOT INCLUDING SURFACING, REMOVING OF THE POM PLACE SURFACING AND PAVILION CUTS.
YOU ARE LOOKING AT A SAVINGS WITH ALL THE OTHER PROPOSED CUTS OF 200, JUST AROUND RIGHT OVER $281,000 IN SAVINGS, WHICH BRINGS THE COST TO THIS PARK TO ABOUT 3,300,011.
IF YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION $150,000 WE JUST RECEIVED FROM TPW AS A REIMBURSEMENT.
YOU'RE NOW AT 3.161 SO 3, 161,000.
THE DIFFERENCE BEING JUST ABOUT THAT, RIGHT AROUND $161,000 THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.
AGAIN, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THAT BE OUR REMAINING DESIGN FEES THAT HOPEFULLY WE WON'T
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SPEND GOING OUT FOR THE 200,000-DOLLAR WRECK TRAILS GRANT LATER THIS FALL AND SEE IF WE'LL GET AWARDED THAT.LOOKING AT PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES OR COMBINATION OF ANY OF THESE THINGS, GENERAL FUND RESERVE, GOING TO AVLC, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE'RE SAVING OVER $200,000 IN A GENERAL FUND TRANSFER.
LIKE THEY MENTIONED, THEY WANT TO SPEND THAT ON PARK PROJECTS.
THEY COULD SUPPLEMENT SOME OF THIS.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION, OF COURSE, WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO TWO PARKS BOARD FOR INPUT AND WE WILL BE TAKING IT TO AVLC.
WE HOPE TO TAKE IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE 22ND.
BUT WE'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE AN ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVE FROM YOU ALL AND AVLC.
YOU SAID YOU'RE STAYING AWAY FROM ALL THE ALTERNATES? WELL, SOME OF THE ALTERNATES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ARE THE LAST TWO.
WHICH LET ME [OVERLAPPING] YES, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO IT FOR THAT.
[LAUGHTER] WE'D LOVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IF WE COULD.
SHALINE AND DR. JACKSON, [INAUDIBLE]. IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, THAT'LL HAVE TO BE A PHASED PROJECT OR ANOTHER PROJECT ENTIRELY.
ANOTHER THING THAT CHRIS JUST MENTIONED AND I FAILED TO MENTION IT OR MAYBE I DID MENTION AT CITY COUNCIL, THE ROTARY CLUB ALSO IS WANTING TO PURSUE A PROJECT AND FUND A PROJECT.
THEY ARE LOOKING AT PAYING FOR HALF OF THE FISHING PIER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE ROTARY FOUNDATION YET, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO PURSUE.
THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO ABOUT $111,000 THAT WE'RE LACKING.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE BOND AMOUNT THAT AVLC IS GOING TO DO OR IS IT JUST GOING TO STAY THE SAME? IT WOULD STAY THE SAME. GO AHEAD, CHRIS.
LET ME MAKE SURE I'M SET UP, ALLOWED SPEAK.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS AT A LEGISLATIVE UPDATE THIS WEEKEND AND THEY TALKED ABOUT CERTIFICATES OBLIGATION IN THE FUTURE.
THEY'VE PASSED HOUSE BILL 1659.
THAT HOUSE BILL REALLY SPECIFIES WHAT CITIES CAN USE CERTIFICATES OBLIGATION FOR WITHOUT GOING OUT FOR A VOTE.
SOME OF THOSE ARE EMERGENCY SERVICES, INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE ROADS, WATER, WASTEWATER.
I'M TRYING TO GET A COPY OF THE BILL SO WE CAN REALLY START UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT MEANS TO US.
BUT SOME THINGS LIKE CITY HALLS, SOME THINGS LIKE PARKS, MAY NOT QUALIFY IN THE FUTURE FOR CERTIFICATE OBLIGATION.
WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE BECAUSE OUR ABILITY TO GO OUT AND GET MONEY IN THE FUTURE MAY BE IMPACTED BY THIS CURRENT LEGISLATION.
TO BE HONEST WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS AND WE'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY TRANSLATE SOME OF THAT.
I THINK THERE'S CONCERNS WITH PEOPLE FUNDING THINGS THAT VOTERS DON'T APPROVE AND SO THERE ARE PORTION CITIES TO PUT THINGS MORE TOWARD VOTER APPROVAL.
I DIDN'T SAY WE CAN'T GO OFF WITH THE MONEY.
IT JUST MEANS IT'S GOT TO GO BEFORE A VOTE, WHICH IS MORE FORMAL PROCESS AND YOU'RE UP TO WHATEVER PEOPLE THINK OF THE PROJECT.
THAT COULD BE INTERESTING GETTING THE PUBLIC TO GET TOGETHER ON SOMETHING.
IT WAS HARD WHEN WE DID THE REFERENDUM ON THE AVL CREATING AVLC, I THINK WE DID TWO OR THREE TRIALS BEFORE WE FINALLY GOT HIM TO PROVE IT.
I THINK I WATCHED THE COUNCIL MEETING, MY GUESS WAS PRESENTED AND I JUST REMEMBER THAT AT LEAST SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE IN FAVOR OF RETAINING THE PAVILION AS PLANNED.
THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY THINGS TO THE PARK OTHER THAN THE WATER.
FOR MY PREFERENCE, I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO STAY AS NICE AS WE COULD POSSIBLY KEEP IT.
THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY PLANTINGS AND SUCH, GET OUT THERE AND DIG A HOLE.
>> DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER INPUT THAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO INCLUDE IN AVLC AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK,
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SO THAT I CAN MAKE SURE THAT I'M REFLECTING WHAT YOU ALL FEEL AS A DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD.ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT BONNIE IS SAYING? WHAT ABOUT THE POUR IN PLACE MATERIAL? WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO MAINTAIN THAT OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONSIDER A DIFFERENT FALL MATERIAL FOR THE PLAYGROUND?
>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BUT I GOT A CALL LAST SCHISM I LISTENED TO [INAUDIBLE] LISTEN WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT [NOISE] SHE HAS A CHILD THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY FOR A CHILD TO BE IN A PLAYGROUND.
DON'T HAVE ANY HERE IN ANGLETON OR HOW I KNOW LIKE JACKSON DOES, SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ALLOCATE THEN RUBBERIZED MATERIAL SEEMS TO HELP WITH THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. TYPICALLY, I'LL BE HONEST THAT POUR IN PLACE MATERIAL EXCEEDS THE LIFESPAN OF MOST PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE GO, WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET EWF FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER PLAYGROUNDS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IN EVERY OTHER YEAR APPLICATION.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU SEE PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET TIMES.
>> THIS WILL BE A LONGER TERM, SO THEN WE HAVE TO KEEP REPLACING.
>> EVERY YEAR OR TWO OR THREE.
>> WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THE BASE MAKE WHETHER IT'S GRAVEL OR CONCRETE?
>> FOR INSTANCE, P GRAVEL IS NO LONGER CONSIDERED ADA COMPLIANT.
IF YOU JUST IMAGINE TRYING TO TAKE A WHEELCHAIR OUT THERE, IT'S LIKE ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO ROLL THROUGH SLUDGE.
>> BUT I MEAN, THE PIP ON GRAVEL VERSUS PIP ON CONCRETE.
>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS MUCH DIFFERENCE WHICH IS WHY THEY PROPOSED THIS AS AN EASY CUT BUT I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
>> I GUESS I'M HAVING A HARD TIME VISUALIZING GRAVEL AS BEING EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
>> WELL, AND I THINK WHAT HE'S ASKING IS SO YOU CAN DO THE POUR IN PLACE RUBBERIZED MATERIAL ON A CONCRETE SUBSTRATE.
>> WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN ORDER TO CUT MINIMALLY $10,000 IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A GRAVEL SUBSTRATE.
>> JUST THE BASE BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE POUR IN PLACE ON TOP.
>> BUT THEY WILL BE STABLE THAT WAY.
>> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS?
>> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHY DID THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE NOT AWARD US?
>> WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THEM TO DETERMINE THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HEARD FROM TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS.
I KNOW CITY OF MONT BELVIEU AND MISSOURI CITY WERE AWARDED A TPW GRANT THIS YEAR.
BUT THEY WERE DIFFERENT GRANTS, SOME OF WHICH WE DIDN'T APPLY FOR BUT SO THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY OUR COMPETITORS.
ONE GROUP, MONT BELVIEU CALLED THE GRANT COORDINATOR AND WALKED THROUGH THE APPLICATION WITH THEM AND SO WE'LL USE THAT STRATEGY NEXT TIME.
[LAUGHTER] THE OTHERS, THEY HAD ACTUALLY APPLIED THE YEAR BEFORE FOR CO-OP GRANT.
THAT'S USUALLY TYPICALLY THE CO-OP GRANT IS FOR RECREATION SUPPLIES LIKE ARCHERY, KAYAKS THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH WE'RE PLANNING ON PURSUING THIS NEXT YEAR.
FOR LAKESIDE PARK AND OTHER PROGRAMMING BUT THEY HAD A BASICALLY A RECAP OF WHY THEY SCORED SO LOW IN DIFFERENT AREAS, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE.
PATTY SWORDS, WHO IS HELPING US WITH GRANT ADMINISTRATION WITH THE CITY IS SETTING UP A MEETING WITH TPW TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE GRANTS SO THAT WHEN WE PURSUE THEM MOVING FORWARD.
WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE LEVERAGE, WE'VE LEARNED FROM OUR LESSONS BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THOSE ARE SO WE WILL BE ASSESSING THIS.
>> THE FACT THAT WE HAD TO EXTEND THE TIME FROM THE LAST ONE AND WE DIDN'T IMPLEMENT IT QUICKLY ENOUGH HURT US?
THAT COULD DEFINITELY BE A CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE AN ACTIVE GRANT THAT'S NOT CLOSED OUT.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT.
>> WAS THAT GRANT APPROVED BY THE RECREATION PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD IN AUSTIN.
>> IF WE KNOW SOMEBODY LOCALLY.
>> WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP SOME MEETINGS AS WELL.
>> WE'RE I THINK PATTY HAS A CONTACT AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SET UP A MEETING.
>> IS NOT BELVIEU HEADING EAST ON 10 IS THAT OUT THERE?
>> ITS NORTH OF 10, SO IF YOU GO NORTH OF A TOWN, BASICALLY JUST RIGHT NORTH OF A TOWN.
>> ITEM 12 DISCUSSION ON PARK STANDARDS MANUAL.
[12. Discussion on park standards manual.]
>> YES. REALLY ALL THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE REVISION,
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WE REALLY WANT TO PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT'S TANGIBLE TO DEVELOPERS AND ALSO STAFF.AS I HOPE WE HAVE LONGEVITY WITH ALL OF OUR STAFF.
BUT AS PEOPLE LEAVE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STANDARD IS MAINTAINED AND EVERYONE HAS THE SAME KNOWLEDGE SO THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE PROPOSE TO DO THAT.
STAFF IS IN PRELIMINARY STAGES OF DEVELOPING A PARK STANDARD MANUAL THAT REFLECTS OUR MINIMUM PARK STANDARDS.
IT CAN BE A GUIDE FOR DEVELOPERS COMING INTO TOWN.
ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE RESEARCHED AND I REALLY LIKE IS VIRGINIA BEACH DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL, WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET.
THIS IS REALLY JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE HOPE TO DO.
BUT WE ARE CONSIDERING A SOLICITING ASSISTANCE FROM KIM LEE HORN, WHO HAS A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE WITH DEVELOPING SIMILAR PRODUCTS.
I HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM LATER ON THIS, WEEK TO DISCUSS WHAT THAT SCOPE WOULD ENTAIL AND WHAT ALL WE NEED FROM THEM.
JUST OPENING IT UP, BRINGING IT TO THE PARKS BOARD AND I WELCOME ANY COMMENTS.
>> WELL, I NOTICED THAT THE VIRGINIA BEACH PEOPLE DESIGNATED ALL THEIR PARKS PRETTY MUCH FOR DIVIDING THEM UP BY SIZE BY ACREAGE.
IS THAT A STANDARD USED AROUND THE COUNTRY OR IS THAT THIS WHAT THEY DECIDED?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION ACTUALLY, THERE ARE STANDARDS NATIONALLY.
BUT I SAY THAT WITH CAUTION BECAUSE WHAT IS ONE TO ONE SIZE FITS ALL FOR EVERYONE.
FOR INSTANCE, YOU CONSIDER A REGIONAL PARK OR SIGNATURE PARK.
OUR REGIONAL PARK LET'S START WITH THAT OUR REGIONAL PARK IS TYPICALLY DEFINED AS A PARK THAT IS GOING TO SERVE THE REGION.
YOU'RE NOT SERVING YOUR RESIDENTS, SO BATES DICKEY PARK OR REALLY BATES PARK, BG SOCCER COMPLEX, THE FREEDOM PARKS.
THOSE ARE REGIONAL PARKS, BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF ANGLETON COMING AND UTILIZING SOME OF THOSE PARK COMPONENTS.
BECAUSE OF THE SPORTS COMPLEXES, YOU LOOK AT LAKESIDE IS GOING TO BE A SIGNATURE PARK.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA AND IT'S GOING TO BE OUR GEMSTONE OF THE CITY IF YOU WILL, SO THAT'LL BE CONSIDERED A SIGNATURE PARK.
BUT IT MAY NOT MEET THE ACREAGE REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT OTHER PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER THOSE SIGNATURE PARKS.
YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY JUST PUT IT INTO A LITTLE OR D11 TYPE OF PARK JUST BASED ON SIZE, BUT YOU CERTAINLY WOULDN'T DO OR IN MY EXPERIENCE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A REGIONAL PARK IS SOMETHING THAT'S HALF AN ACRE OR SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE VETERANS PARK WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM OUTSIDE A TOWN TO ATTEND OUR CONCERTS.
AGAIN, YOU CAN'T REALLY BASE IT ON ACREAGE IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE PARK COMPONENTS.
>> I GUESS OUR STANDARD TRAIL IS GOING TO BE 10 FEET CONCRETE.
>> THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IN THE PARK LAND DEDICATION. YES.
>> I LIKE THE GRAVEL WHEN YOU GO INTO IT SITTING UNDER THE TREES ARE MORE INTRODUCTORY.
BUT ON THE TRAIL FOR NEW PARK, MAYBE IT'S MY SHOES ALWAYS GET GRAVEL ON MY SHOE AND SO MY WIFE DON'T LIKE IT EITHER SO WE'LL GO INTO DINKY.
>> YEAH, THAT IS A 10-FOOT WIDE TRAIL AS WELL.
BUT WE TOO, EVEN FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE OR I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.
OR IT MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO BE CONCRETE.
BUT THEN YOU TALK TO RUNNERS THAT SOMETIMES THEY'D LIKE THE SOFTER SURFACES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ANOTHER WAY THEY DIFFERENTIATE THINGS AS THE UTILITIES AND AMENITIES THAT ARE IN EACH PARK AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON A DESCENDING SCALE.
DO WE DIVIDE THEM UP THAT WAY WITHIN THE CITY TOO?
>> WE CERTAINLY CAN, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE DO AN ASSET INVENTORY WILL BE ASSESSING THOSE.
IN THE STANDARDS MANUAL, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOMETHING SIMILAR.
IT MAY NOT REFLECT WHAT THEY HAVE, BUT WE WILL BE DESIGNATING ALL OF OUR PARKS, YES.
>> WHO WILL BE DEVELOPING THE MANUAL FOR ANGLETON?
>> THE DEPARTMENT AND WE MAY BE WORKING WITH KIM LEE HORN.
>> IT'S A GOOD MANUAL, I LIKED ALL THE DIAGRAMS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY KNOW HOW TO MAKE THINGS NOW.
>> THEY KNOW HOW TO PUT A LITTLE BRIDGE FROM THE YARD.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT THE STANDARD OR EXPECTATION SHOULD BE WHEN YOU GO TO SOME OF OUR FACILITIES.
>> I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL, [OVERLAPPING] BOARD JUST TO BE AWARE OF THOSE THINGS.
>> WELL, EVEN I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING.
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>> NEEDS TO BE PERFECT TO GIVE TO THEM BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR US AS A DEPARTMENT AND THEN ALSO FOR DEVELOPERS.
WHEN WE SAY, OR THEY SAY," YES, WE'D LOVE TO BUILD AND DEDICATE A PARK." WE SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE MANUAL YOU NEED TO ABIDE BY [LAUGHTER] IN ORDER TO THAT.
>> YOU SHOULD GET BETTER QUOTE TO MEAN MORE REASONABLE, RELIABLE QUOTES THAT WAY TOO.
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY USE THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE NEW STANDARDS IS TO TAKE A FIELD TRIP TO VIRGINIA BEACH.
>> I LIKE. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? [LAUGHTER]
>> I SECOND THE MOTION. [LAUGHTER] WE GOT SOMEWHERE IN THIS BUDGET WE CAN CUT. [LAUGHTER].
>> I KNOW YOU-ALL [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE YOU HEAR EVERYONE'S WHILE YOU SAID YOU'RE IN TEXAS CITY OR [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] SOMEWHERE SO IT'S TIME WE GOT TO TAKE IT [OVERLAPPING]
>> RIGHT. WE JUST GOT DONE WITH MONT BELVIEU ACTUALLY.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO MONT BELVIEU, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS CALLED? IS IT LITERALLY CALLED SIGNATURE PARK OR WHAT WAS THEIR MAIN ONE? I THINK IT WAS SIGNATURE PARK, BUT IT IS A BEAUTIFUL COMPLEX AND IT'S A BASEBALL, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE SOFTBALL THERE, DON'T THEY? IT'S THEIR MAIN HUB AND SOCCER, WHICH PRESENT STRUGGLES OF ITS OWN, BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A TRIP OUT THERE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN, THEY HAVE DEVELOPED VERY WELL AND BURDITT CONSULTING WAS THE DESIGNER.
IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE SOME OF THE BERMING, THEY HAVE AN AMPHITHEATER OUT THERE WITH JUST A BERM IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT IT DOES HAVE A WATER FEATURE BEHIND IT.
IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WANT TO SAY IT'S SIGNATURE PARK.
>> CAN WE ALL FIT ON THE [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER].
>> WE CAN SCHEDULE SOMETHING DEFINITELY.
I THINK CHRIS WAS DISAPPOINTED HE DIDN'T GET TO GO AS WELL.
>> CHRIS, YOU GET TO GO THIS SUMMER.
>> WELL, THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST ITEM,
[13. Discussion and possible action on park land use for future park development]
WHICH I'M EXCITED ABOUT AND I'M LOOKING TO GET SOME INPUT ON.I'M GOING TO CHANGE SPACES REALLY QUICKLY.
[NOISE] THIS LAST ITEM IS REGARDING FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT.
AS WE ALL KNOW, IN THE MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN THERE ARE SEVERAL LOW SCORING PARK COMPONENTS IN PARKS IN GENERAL.
WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO IS ATTACH SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING IN THE SHORT TERM AND MID TERM.
THIS IS REFLECTED ON THE CIP PLAN THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GAUGE FROM YOU HERE IS REALLY JUST PROVIDING STAFF WITH A DIRECTION ON PARK AMENITIES FOR THESE SPECIFIC AREAS, INCLUDING THE MUNICIPAL POOL, VETERANS PARK, [INAUDIBLE] , OFFICER CASH MEMORIAL PARK, AND ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER SINCE THEY'VE COME UP IN DISCUSSION RECENTLY.
IN YOUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, ALL I'M REALLY DOING IS WHAT IS IN THIS POWERPOINT SLIDE.
THESE ARE ELEMENTS THAT ARE TAKEN FROM THE MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN.
[NOISE] THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS, AND THIS IS IN PRIORITY ORDER, IS THE MUNICIPAL POOL.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHILE WE HAVE LAND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, WE DO NOT HAVE DEVELOPED PARTS FOR THE RESIDENCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.
WE ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PARK, WHICH IS THE DOG PARK THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED AND YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER ON HERE.
BUT WE REALLY NEED TO BE MAKING MOVEMENT TOWARDS DEVELOPING SOME OF THESE AREAS FOR THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARKS ARE EQUITABLY DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WE'RE PROVIDING EQUITABLE [NOISE] SERVICES THAT [NOISE] ARE ACCESSIBLE TOO.
WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY WHEN WE CONSIDER SOME OF THIS PARK REDEVELOPMENT AND THAT WILL TIE INTO OUR HIKE AND BIKE PLAN AS WELL WHEN WE START WORKING WITH THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.
THE MUNICIPAL POOL, ONE OF THE ACTION ITEMS ON OUR PLAN WAS CONDUCT A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO IMPROVE THE OUTDOOR WATER ACCESS IN THE CITY.
THIS COULD INCLUDE UPDATES TO THE EXISTING POOL, POOL LOCATION, OR OTHER POTENTIAL PROPERTIES.
THIS IS A SHORT TO MID TERM ACTION ITEM.
SPECIFICALLY IN OUR PLAN, THE MUNICIPAL POOL WAS ASSESSED AS A TOTALLY UNUSABLE SPACE, WHICH IT IS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH DEMOLITION.
ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS TO REPLACE MUNICIPAL POOL WITH SPLASH PAD AND ALSO WATER ACCESS IS LACKING AND THIS CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH POSSIBLE RENOVATION OF THE OUTDOOR MUNICIPAL POOL INTO
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A SPLASH PAD OR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SPLASH PADS IN KEY AREAS, SUCH AS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY AND THE RECREATION CENTER.THESE ARE IN OUR PLAN AS IT IS TODAY.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER, I'M INCREDIBLY VISUAL SO I THOUGHT I'D SHARE NOT ONLY THE WORDS, BUT ACTUAL CONCEPTS WITH YOU.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENTER ROW, MINIMALLY WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH AMERICAN LEGIONS REGARDING THE FIVE-ACRE PLOT OF LAND BEHIND THE HALL.
WE ARE SURVEYING THE PROPERTY TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY CONNECTIVITY.
WHAT WE MAY DO IF THERE IS CONNECTIVITY OR AMPLE CONNECTIVITY IS UTILIZE THE LAND DONATION AS A MATCHING GRANT FOR TPW GRANT.
BUT THEY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR THAT DONATION THAT WE MAY CONSIDER.
IT COULD BE A JOINT USE, BUT WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED THAT YET SO I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO INTO THE WEEDS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF EXPANDING THIS PARK.
BUT JUST KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL LAND ACREAGE THAT WE COULD USE.
HOWEVER, IF WE ONLY HAVE THAT CORNER LOT, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU MINIMALLY DO A PLAYGROUND AND SPLASH PAD COMBINATION.
WE MET WITH LONE STAR RECREATION LAST WEEK, SARAH AND MYSELF DID.
REGARDING THE SIZE, THEY'RE GOING TO MOCK UP SOME RENDERINGS FOR US SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS CENTER ROW.
THESE ARE NOT WHAT WE WOULD DO, BUT THESE ARE JUST IDEAS SO THAT YOU HAVE A VISUAL OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU HAD, IF YOU LOOK ON THE FAR LEFT, YOU HAD A FOREIGN PLACE MATERIALS SO THAT YOU'RE NOT CARRYING MULCH IN DIFFERENT THINGS ACROSS.
BUT KIDS CAN USE IT FOR SLASH PAD SPACE AND THEN ALSO PLAYGROUND SPACE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE RESIDENTS IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.
ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY THOUGH IS BECAUSE OUR RECREATION CENTER IS A COST DRIVEN FACILITY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC ALTERNATIVE TO THOSE THAT CAN'T AFFORD A DAILY ADMISSION IN THE SUMMER TO GO TO THE POOL.
YOU WILL SEE TRAFFIC BEYOND WHAT YOU WOULD REALLY THINK.
IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST SERVE THE RESONANCE IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREAS. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
MY VISION FOR A SPLASH PAD IS SOME OF THOSE TOP PICTURES.
I THINK THAT THE SPLASH PAD NEEDS TO BE WHAT REALLY STANDS OUT AND THOSE COMPONENTS ARE ENSURING THAT YOU HAVE SOME HUGE COMPONENTS THERE AND REALLY MAKING THAT A GRAND SLASH PAD.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS NOT JUST A ONE OR TWO SPRAY AND SOME OF THOSE SMALL FEATURES, I THINK YOU NEED A VERY CENTRAL EPIC, IF YOU WILL DUMP FEATURE OR EVEN IF YOU LOOK ON THE FAR [NOISE] LEFT, ON THE TOP, THERE'S ACTUAL SLIDE AND TUNNEL COMPONENTS TO SOME OF THESE STRUCTURES THAT DON'T REQUIRE, THEY HAVE FALL PADS, THEY DON'T REQUIRE STANDING WATER, SO THIS WOULD NOT BE A MANNED FACILITY.
IT WOULD STILL JUST BE EITHER RECIRCULATING, OR PASS THROUGH, OR GRAY WATER SYSTEM.
SOME OF THE COMPONENTS ABOVE, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, AND THEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH A SMALLER 5-12 PLAYGROUND UNIT THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE SPLASH PAD IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THIS WALL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CENTRAL CONCEPT, THAT AREA, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PAVILIONS OR SHAPED COVERINGS.
YOU CAN RENT ALL OF THOSE OUT.
[NOISE] WHAT MY EXPERIENCE IN DIFFERENT AREAS OR EVEN TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THAT CENTER.
WHEN YOU HAVE A COVERING AREA LIKE THAT, THIS IS A VERY ECONOMICAL WAY FOR PARENTS TO AFFORD A BIRTHDAY PARTY.
>> THIS WILL CERTAINLY GET USED.
YOU WILL RECEIVE REVENUE ON PAVILION RENTALS.
I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE COMPONENTS I WOULD RECOMMEND IN THE SPACE, YOU HAVE A GRAND SPLASH PAD.
YOU INCLUDE A 5-12 PLAYGROUND ELEMENT AND YOU ENSURE THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF SHADE STRUCTURES, RENTABLE SPACES FOR PATRONS.
>> THE REASON YOU'RE CHOOSING THAT LOCATION IS BECAUSE WE HAVE IT? DO YOU FEEL LIKE [NOISE] WHATEVER WE CALLED IN THE PARKING GRAVEL OR SHELL OR IS IT CONCRETE?
>> I ASK, DO WE HAVE CONCRETE?
>> IT DID USED TO BE CONCRETE.
I KNOW WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER CONNECTIONS BECAUSE WE HAD A BATHROOM.
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DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE SITE IS BIG ENOUGH TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IT?IF WE COULD ACQUIRE THE FIVE ACRES, I WOULD MUCH PREFER THAT BE OUR SPACE MAINLY FOR SAFETY REASONS OFF OF THAT MAIN CURVE ON WHAT IS THAT? [OVERLAPPING]
>>WIRE. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT WITHOUT, WE'RE STILL IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.
>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF GOING BIGGER WHEN WE DO PROJECTS.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO LIKE ANOTHER BRUSH YOU ABOUT.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS WILL DRAW A TON OF PEOPLE AND WE NEED SOMETHING DOWN THERE.
BUT WE TALKED TO ONE TOWN ABOUT ACQUIRING MORE LAND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OR MINING SAND, OR WE COULD ENCOMPASS A SPLASH PAD OR DOG PARK OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAD BEEN OUT TO WHILE, BUT WHAT I REMEMBER THE SITE HAD A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS BECAUSE OF THE CUT THROUGH ROAD AND STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ROOM WE WOULD HAVE, WHERE WE'D HAVE TO PROBABLY BE IN ONE OF THOSE.
>> RIGHT, AND ONE IS NOT EVEN A DEDICATED ROAD, SO THAT WOULD BE NICE TO GET RID OF THAT BARRIER AND WE'VE GOT DRAINAGE AND WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT, SO YEAH. CHRIS, DID YOU?
>> YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID TALK TO THE AMERICAN LEGION ABOUT OR THEY BROUGHT UP TO US IS, IT'S NOT A DONATION LAND, SO WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THIS LAND, BUT IN EXCHANGE FOR LET'S SAY YOU REDO THE PARKING LOT OUT FRONT, WHICH IS A CONCERN TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT EVENTS.
BUT JUST MEGAN AND I SPIT BALL ON THE OTHER DAY.
WHAT IF WE DID THAT AND THAT BECAME PUBLIC PARKING FOR WHATEVER THAT PARK WAS, WAS BEHIND IT OR THE SIDE.
AMERICAN LEGION USES IT AT NIGHT ON THE WEEKENDS OR CERTAIN TIMES AND GROSS TIME, IT'S PUBLIC PARKING SO THAT NOW YOU'RE TAKING THAT AWAY FROM DWYER SRI AND SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES AND YOU'RE PUTTING IN QUALITY PARKING.
YOU'VE GOT CONCRETE AND BUMP OUTS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
MAYBE IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, IT MAY BE WORTH MAKING THAT AMENITY AND SAYING, YEAH, WELL, IF YOU GUYS DONATE THE LAND BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ACCESS, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE, BUT WE'LL DO THE PARKING LOT, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE A PUBLIC, PRIVATE PARKING LOT SO THAT AGAIN, IT CAN BE A JOINT USE THING.
>> SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ANY OF THESE PARK REDEVELOPMENT IS THAT WE'RE MEETING OR PARK STANDARDS.
ONE OF THOSE STANDARDS ARE ONCE WE HIT FIVE ACRES, WE HAVE TO HAVE RESTROOMS ON-SITE, WE WOULD [NOISE] WANT RESTROOMS ABOUT THAT ANYWAY.
THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS TO CONSIDER.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT AND EVEN TALKING WITH AMERICAN LEGIONS, THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A PAVILION.
BUT YOU CAN DO A PREFAB BUILDING THAT FOLLOWS OUR STANDARD GUIDELINES AND INCLUDES MATERIALS THAT WE HAVE AT LAKESIDE PARK AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND THEN ON THE BACKSIDE HAVE RESTROOMS. THESE ARE ALL THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT REDEVELOPING EACH OF THESE AREAS.
>> YEAH. USING THE CENTER PICTURES, ESPECIALLY ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE CENTER OF THAT MIDDLE ROW, IT WOULD BE SLIPPED.
YOU WOULD HAVE THE SPLASH PAD BE THE BIGGER PART OF IT WITH THE PLAYGROUND BEING THE SMALLER.
YOUR IDEA FOR THE LITTLE COVERED AREAS IS PRETTY GENIUS.
I MEAN, YOU COULD RENT THOSE OUT FOR LIKE 25 BUCKS OR WHATEVER, THAT'S FOUR PEOPLE PER THING OR WHATEVER.
EVEN BIGGER ONE, AND YOU CAN HAVE A WHOLE LIKE, YEAH IT'S REALLY SMART.
I'M WITH THE GO BIG OR GO HOME ON THIS ONE.
THIS SHOULD BE A GIANT BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER LOCAL AREAS, SO YOU'D HAVE TO GO MAYBE PER LAND PROBABLY INTO HOUSTON, A DECENT, GOOD SPLASH PAD.
>> OYSTER CREEK HAS A LITTLE CHEAP ONE.
>> OR EVEN THE DAM WAS CLOSED DOWN.
>> I MEAN, DISCOVERY GREEN IN DOWNTOWN HOUSTON HAS A GOOD ONE, BUT IT'S DISCOVERY GREEN, YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL THROUGH THERE.
>> YEAH. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHO INSTALLED ONES ARE RECREATION IS THE VENDOR THEY WERE TALKING TO.
IF YOU GUYS JUST WANT TO LOOK AT THE BRAND, THIS IS AQUATIX WITH AN X.
JUST LOOK AT SOME OF THEIR CONCEPTS THERE.
THIS IS THE HYDRA LINE AND IT'S JUST REALLY ENGAGING AND FUN AND HAVE A LOT OF COMPONENTS.
>> THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT UP DOG PARK WITH THIS, LET'S SAY THIS IS A PLACE FOR IT.
AS YOU DESCRIBE THE DIFFERENT WAYS OF USING WATER, IF YOU HAVE WATER THAT YOU'VE JUST USE ONCE AND IT'D BE IDEAL TO RUN IT THROUGH A DOG PARK FOR A POND OR DOG MINI SPLASH POND. BUT NOT SAYING NO.
>> EXACTLY. WHENEVER YOU'VE TIME TO BUY AN EXTRA LAND, YOU COULD COMBO THAT AND HAVE A DOG PARK.
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I'M THINKING ABOUT IT AS THIS IS A FAMILIES, FAMILIES WOULD BE, LET'S BRING THE DOG AND DO THE THING WHILE THE LITTLE ONE ARE HAVING.DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU COULD COMBO THAT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THAT LAND.
>> THAT JUST SEEMED LIKE ANOTHER USE OF THE WATER VERSUS JUST PUT IN THE DITCH AND IT WAS STEPHEN WHO HAD A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS ON DOG PARKS, THAT REALIZE OUR DOG PARK SHOULD BE TORN DOWN WHEN YOU SEE IT FROM THE OTHERS HE DESCRIBED, AND THEN [LAUGHTER] IT'S EMBARRASSING.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT WAS JUST AN OPTION IF WE CAN USE THAT WATER REPURPOSE IT FOR A DOG PARK WITH THE IDEA.
>> NOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT JUST GRAY WATER IRRIGATION AND IT'S HARD TO DO.
JUST IMAGINE THE FLOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUT THERE SEASONALLY.
IF WE'RE ONLY USING THAT PORTION OF LAND, THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO USE A GRAY WATER SYSTEM.
BUT IF WE WERE TO ACQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL LAND, WE HAVE BEDS, [LAUGHTER] THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> REPURPOSE WATER AND DO LIKE CHRIS SAID, WE SHARE A PARKING LOT.
THERE'S A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES, I AGREE WITH HAVING TWO.
>> YEAH. SOME OF THE VENDORS, ONCE OUR RECREATION ISN'T ALL OF THEM.
THERE'S CRAFTSMEN, THERE'S ALSO VORTEX IS ANOTHER ONE.
THERE'S PLENTY OF VENDORS THAT WE CAN GET IDEAS FROM, BUT THEY ALSO TYPICALLY THESE VENDORS INCLUDE THEIR DESIGN IN CONSTRUCTION.
DESIGN CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING.
THE EXCEPTION IS LIKE TOPO AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GET ASSESSED.
>> NOTICE WE HAD A SPLASH PAD IN THE FREEDOM MASTERPLAN TOO, ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT WE PUT ONE HERE AND THERE AND EVEN MAYBE ANOTHER ONE OUTSIDE THE REC CENTER AS WELL, LIKE THREE IN TOWN?
>> HONESTLY, I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT.
I KNOW THAT OUR PLANS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THE WATER ACCESS FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY AT THE RECREATION CENTER.
WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IF WE DON'T FIND THAT THAT'S A NEED.
THERE ARE SOME IDEAS THAT WE'VE SEEN JUST DOING SOME FACILITY TOURS ONE OF OUR MOST RECENT ONES WITH THE REC DIVISION WAS CITY OF PASADENA.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER BEEN TO STRAWBERRY PARK, BUT IT'S A PRETTY SMALL OUTDOOR PARK, BUT THEY HAVE SOME LARGE COMPONENTS THAT MAKE IT LOOK AMAZING.
[LAUGHTER] THAT WOULD MORE SO BE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR REC CENTER OUTDOOR EXPANSION VERSUS DOING A SLASH PAD AT THE REC CENTER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD DO A SLASH PAD OR REC CENTER, BUT THERE ARE COMPONENTS.
JUST EVEN UPDATING OUR SPRAY ELEMENTS WITHIN THE INDOOR POOL WOULD MAKE THAT LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
>> WELL, I WAS JUST THINKING REC CENTER IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY IN A SWIMSUIT AND ITS CROWDED OR WHATEVER AND IF YOU WANTED TO GET SUN, YOU COULD GO OUTSIDE AND HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.
TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE IT AT THE REC CENTER.
>> YEAH. ABSOLUTELY, AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS.
IF WE GET A DIRECTION, I THINK THE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT WILL HELP US DETERMINE IF THAT IS REALLY WHAT CITIZENS ARE WANTING AND WHERE.
>> DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE MINUTES BEFORE? I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO VETERANS PARK.
WE'VE RECENTLY ELIMINATED OR HAD TO REMOVE THE GAZEBO.
SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN LOOKING AT VETERANS PARK.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED IT WAS JUST VERY GENERAL IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THE BUSHY BAYOU PARK, REUBEN WELCH PARK, AND VETERANS PARK WERE THE LEAST USED FACILITIES IS WHAT THEY FOUND IN THEIR ASSESSMENT.
ONE THING THAT I REMEMBER OUT OF VETERANS PARK IS THAT THEY SAID THAT THERE WEREN'T A GREAT DEAL OF USABLE COMPONENTS.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT.
THERE WAS A GAZEBO, THERE WERE SOME METAL BENCHES, AND A PICNIC TABLE.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT ELSE AT VETERANS PARK.
LIVABLE CENTER STUDIES SUPPORTS THE EXPANSION OF VETERANS PARK.
SOME OF THOSE ITEMS INCLUDED ACQUIRING ADDITIONAL LAND TO EXPAND THE PARK AND THEN ALSO RETAIN A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO CONDUCT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND PREPARE A PROGRAM PLAN, AND THEN ALSO CONDUCT A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO DETERMINE PROGRAMMING NEEDS FOR THE AREA.
WE ALREADY KNOW SOME OF THE NEEDS JUST BASED ON THE PROGRAMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HOST, LIKE THE HEART OF CHRISTMAS EVENT AND OUR CONCERT SERIES.
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THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE KEEPING IN MIND.SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE HELPFUL IS MORE OF AN AMPHITHEATER LIKE, IF WE PLAN ON CONTINUING CONCERTS.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING AND THE AMPHITHEATER PROPOSE THAT FREEDOM.
FREEDOM CAN DEFINITELY SUPPORT MORE PEOPLE, THIS WOULD BE A SMALLER SCALE.
SEATING IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER BECAUSE IT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED AND WE ARE VERY ACTIVE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY IN THAT AREA DUE TO THE COURT HOUSE.
PEOPLE WOULD DEFINITELY COME AND HAVE LUNCH THERE IF THERE WAS AMPLE SEATING AND WE DO HAVE SHADE THERE CURRENTLY.
YOU COULD MAINTAIN MONUMENTATION WITH THE VETERANS MONUMENTS AND EXPAND THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, HAVE SOME GREEN OPEN SPACE, PLANTERS, INTENTIONAL PLANTINGS.
WE'VE ALSO SEEN OR YOU CAN SEE THROUGHOUT VARIOUS PARTS YOU HAVE PLANTERS THAT ALSO THE LEDGER SERVICE SEATING.
THOSE ARE SOME DESIGN COMPONENTS TO CONSIDER WHEN LOOKING AT SPECIALLY SMALL SPACES LIKE THIS.
WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT KIND OF EVENTS YOU'RE GOING TO HOST THERE, IT MAY NOT JUST BE MUCH MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, YOU MAY HAVE A LARGER EVENT WHERE YOU NEED BESIDES THE PICNIC TABLES OR CHAIRS THAT ARE OUT THERE OR BENCHES, YOU MIGHT NEED LARGE SEATING OR GRASS SEATING OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
DIFFERENT CONCEPTS OF PAVILIONS, OF COURSE, THE LEFT BOTTOM BEING THE MATERIALS AND PAVILION WE HAVE OUT AT LAKESIDE, SO CONSIDERING THOSE DESIGN ELEMENTS.
BUT THEN ALSO MAKING SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SIGNATURE AND UNIQUE TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, REALLY ATTRACTING THE DOWNTOWN AREA, MAKING IT A PIECE OF ART.
THAT'S WHY I INCLUDED THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
IT JUST PROVIDES A VERY UNIQUE ATTRACTION TO THAT AREA.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ONE?
>> JUST BASED ON PAST HISTORY OF THAT PARK, WE USED TO GET A LOT OF COURTHOUSE PEOPLE WOULD GO SIT OUT THERE AND HAVE LUNCH SITTING DOWN.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT MORE PARKING NOW SINCE THEY GOT RID OF THE NX AND THEY PAVED THAT.
BUT I CAN SEE THAT AT SOME POINT WHETHER IT'S MARTHA DOING IT OR SOMEBODY ELSE DOING LIKE YOU HAVE THE PEACH STREET MARKET BUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UTILIZING AND PARKING IN HERE, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING COVER INSTEAD OF AN OPEN PAVILION LIKE YOU HAVE ON TOP.
COUNCIL MEN WE USE THAT PAVILION THERE WITH GAZEBO FOR DECADES.
WHENEVER WE GOT TO THE PARK, WE WERE USING THAT FOR PICTURES WITH SANTA AT THE VALENCE AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU WANT COVERED WHETHER IT'S RAIN OR WHETHER IT'S SUN I MEAN, VERSUS AN OPEN-AIR ONE.
BUT IT HAS TO BE SIZED AND SHAPED WHERE IF YOU DO HAVE CONCERTS THERE, GAZEBO WASN'T GOOD FOR CONCERTS BECAUSE THE BAND WAS BLOCKED.
IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN ONE AND I'VE SEEN SOME OTHER CONCEPTS, MAYBE IT'S A LIVABLE STUDIES OR MAYBE IT'S SOMEWHERE, BUT THEY WERE MORE OPEN WHERE A BAND WOULD BE SEEN AND NOT BLOCKED BY COLUMNS, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
I KNOW THAT THE PLAN IS TO CONTINUE TO MAKE DOWNTOWN ANGLETON INTO SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE ALL WOULD BE PROUD OF IN BRINGING IN MORE RESTAURANTS AND HAVING MORE THINGS.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THAT BOTTOM LEFT IS LITTLE FAR-FETCHED, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D NORMALLY SEE IN ANGLETON.
HOWEVER, I THINK HAVING SOMETHING THERE, ESPECIALLY FOR WHAT WE DO, WHETHER IT BE THE CONCERT, JUST HIGHLIGHTING A TEMPLATE WHAT WE WANT ANGLETON DOWNTOWN TO LOOK LIKE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
I'M WITH YOU ON THE OPEN THING.
THE DOWNSIDE OF THE GAZEBO EVERY TIME THEY HAVE A CONCERT IS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S BLOCKING THE BAND, BUT THAT LOCATION IS PERFECT.
WE JUST TOOK OUR LAWN CHAIRS AND JUST HAVE SIT, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED IT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF HAVING SOME CEILING.
TO USE SOMETHING LIKE A COMBO BETWEEN THAT MIDDLE PICTURE THAT HAS THE BEAUTIFUL TREES AND THEY'RE SITTING IN THEIR WITH SOME COVER LIKE A CONCERT OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE DO IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
SOME COMBO THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL.
I'M JUST THINKING LIKE FUTURE ANGLES INTO WHAT WE WANT, ESPECIALLY WHAT WE WANT DOWNTOWN TO LOOK LIKE.
WE ALREADY HAVE REALLY AMAZING ARTWORK BEING DONE BY A LOCAL ARTIST.
ADDING A CENTERPIECES TO THAT WOULD BE LIKE EYE APPEALING IN THE SENSE OF BRINGING PEOPLE, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT MOVING HERE, BUT BRINGING PEOPLE IN TO THE AREAS TO LOOK AT.
>> ALSO WE WANT TO LEAVE ROOM FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS,
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EVERY TIME WE HAVE FOOD TRUCKS [OVERLAPPING].>> MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE CONNECTIONS FOR THAT. ABSOLUTELY.
>> WELL, I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING PICNIC TABLES OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE FOR PEOPLE FROM THE COURT HOUSE.
BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE, YOU GET AWAY FROM THE COURTHOUSE AND THEY'RE NOT LEAVING TOWN THEY'RE GOING TO MIGRATE TO DOWNTOWN.
FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, PLACE THERE FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THEY HAVE THE SEATING.
THEN THE OTHER IS LIKE WE WANT THE PROGRAM 10 ACRES HERE OF IT.
[LAUGHTER] BUT WE ALSO NEED A PLACE FOR THE STAGE.
>> SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. BUT I THINK IT'S STILL THERE, BUT MIND YOU, THIS IS A DIFFERENT SIZE OF CITY.
BUT DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO ACROSS FROM WHERE THE CONVENTION CENTER IS THERE IS A SMALL LITTLE AREA THERE THAT THEY JUST WOULD HAVE FOOD TRUCKS THERE YEAR ROUND AND THEY WILL ROTATE.
SOMEBODY WILL BE THERE FOR AT LEAST FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD COME.
BUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK PARKED, ONE OR TWO TO JUST SIT THERE.
THEY'RE ON THE WEEKENDS, ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE, AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT INTO AN AREA TO THE HIGHLIGHT DOWNTOWN ANGLETON, TO HAVE THAT LOCATION SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE TO HAVE THAT ABILITY THAT WILL BE REALLY GOOD.
BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU WANT PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST LIKE, "OH, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL" WE WANT THEM TO STAY AND EAT AND MAYBE THAT WOULD OPEN UP SOME MORE SHOPPING AREAS OR SOME MORE BREAKFAST POSSIBLY CAN POTENTIALLY OPEN UP.
I THINK THAT WILL BE REALLY GOOD.
>> YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER INFO ON THIS ONE.
JERRY DID. REALLY GO UP TO THE LINE.
>> IT'S JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING I'M GOING TO ADD BECAUSE JUST FROM KNOWING RESERVATIONS AT THE REC CENTER, WHAT VETERANS GOT USED A LOT AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COVERING AND THE PLANTS AND ALL OF THAT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T REALLY BRING OUT VETERANS, A LOT TO HOLD MY BIG BIG PARTIES, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT MARRIED THERE.
YES. I THINK THAT WE MADE IT REALLY, ESPECIALLY THE HEART AND ALL OF THAT, NOT TO BE TOO CHEESY, BUT I THOUGHT IT MADE IT REALLY SWEET BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY NOWADAYS CAN HOST A $10,000 OR $20,000 WEDDING.
I THINK HAVING THAT I KNOW LAKESIDE WILL BE REALLY NICE AS WELL, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY AWESOME ELEMENT TO HAVE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT MARRIED AT VETERANS PARK BECAUSE OF THE GAZEBO.
IF WE COULD EVEN MAINTAIN THAT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL.
>> I MEAN, IT REALLY WASN'T [OVERLAPPING].
>> WHAT WAS IT? WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO A GAZEBO, BUT YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A STAGE AREA DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT PLANNED TO HAVING A PIECE OF THE BRIDE AND THE GROOM AND YOU HAVE THE PARTY AND THE LOVE, SO IT WILL STILL BE COOL.
>> BUT YOU STILL THINK THAT A COVERING IS APPROPRIATE? AM I HEARING YOU CORRECTLY OR NOT? I'M SORRY.
>> IF YOU HAVE A WEDDING AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE WEDDING IS GOING TO BE, YOU HAVE A COVERING AT WEDDING PARTY CAN BE DRIED AND IF YOU HAVE THE SUN DURING THE DAY YOU CAN CHANGE.
>> WHAT WAS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE COVERING? WAS IT THE WEATHER?
>> JUST THE OPENNESS. LIKE HANNA WAS SAYING, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MIDDLE PICTURE, IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF STYLE TO IT, BUT THE COLUMNS NEED TO BE POSITIONED OUT.
SOME OF THOSE HAVE THE REAR COLUMNS IN A CERTAIN PLACE, SO THE OTHER ONES DEFLECT OUT.
>> YEAH, I GOT YOU. I'M WITH YOU NOW.
>> IN THAT WAY THE VISION IS NOT BLOCKING ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.
>> USING THESE PICTURES, IF YOU COMBINE THE BOTTOM RIGHT, WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS DEAD IN THE MIDDLE CENTER, THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL.
>> BECAUSE YOU'VE THE COVERING, BUT THE ACTUAL LIKE THE FIELD AND LOOK OF THAT AREA WILL BE SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE FOR [INAUDIBLE]
>> WELL, IT'S LIKE THE SEATING IS UNDER THE TREES AND STAGE AREA, THE WAITING AREA IS UNDER THE COVER COMBINED.
>> WE'LL JUST DESIGN IT [LAUGHTER].
>> MAKE IT HEART-SHAPED [LAUGHTER].
>> I'M GETTING THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> SOMEBODY IS GOING TO DONATE IT.
AGAIN, THESE ARE CONCEPTS TRYING TO MOVE A SPORT AND A DIRECTION.
THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED ESPECIALLY US PARK.
ONE OF THE ITEMS ARE A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN WERE ACTION 4.1C, CONSIDER SITE-SPECIFIC MASTER PLAN FOR REUBEN WELCH SHOULD ADDRESS ADDITIONAL FIELDS AS DEMAND INCREASE FOR USE AS A LARGE GATHERING SPACE OR AMPHITHEATER.
AGAIN, THESE WERE JUST THINGS NOTED PREVIOUSLY, WHAT YOU COULD DO.
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DIAMOND FIELDS ARE GENERALLY OVERGROWN, RUSTY FENCE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE IN USE, CURRENTLY UNUSABLE DUE TO LACK OF FENCING.THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED.
CONCESSIONS STAND ABANDONED AND RECENTLY DEMOLISHED.
BUSHY BAYOU PARK, REUBEN WELCH PARK, AND VETERANS PARK ARE THE LEAST USED FACILITIES.
SITE-SPECIFIC PLAN SHOULD BE DEVELOPED FOR DICKEY AND BATES PARKS AS WELL AS REUBEN WELCH TO ADDRESS MORE PROGRAMMING SPACE AND IMPROVING THE LEVEL SERVICE FOR RESIDENTS.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO AND I APOLOGIZE, IT'S NOT IN HERE, BUT IT WAS LISTED IN THE PLAN ARE A SKATE PARK.
ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS ABOUT REUBEN WELCH PARK IS THE ACCESSIBILITY.
IF YOU GOOGLE ANGLETON AND YOU CLICK ON OUR MAP AND YOU SEE THE CITY LIMITS.
WE HAVE LITERALLY JUST REACHED OUT AND GRABBED A PIECE OF LAND AND THAT IS REUBEN WELCH PARK.
SO ACCESSIBILITY IS NOT EASY TO THIS AREA.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE CREATIVE WITH OTHER PROGRAMMING AND POLICIES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE THROUGH HIKING BY COMMITTEE THAT COULD LOOK LIKE BIKE MARKERS THAT ARE JUST A SHARED USE WITH VEHICLE TRAFFIC.
IT COULD BE MORE EXTENSIVE AND INCLUDE OTHER PATHS.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, WE'VE GOT DITCHES ON EITHER ROAD OR EITHER SIDE OF THAT ROAD, SO IT'S PRETTY NARROW AS IT IS.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE NICE TO DEVELOP THIS AREA.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY IN ATV OR BIKE PARK TRACK AT THE 75 ACRES BEHIND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN.
WE HAVE RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME SIDE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA, BUT WELCH PARK MIGHT BE A GREAT ALTERNATIVE FOR THAT.
WHILE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE [NOISE] TO EITHER DRIVE OR BIKE OUT THERE, IT'S STILL AN OPTION AND THESE ARE JUST SOME IDEAS.
THIS ONE IS NOT TOO FAR AWAY OR THE ONES THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE VERY TOP ROW.
THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN FOR HOUSTON BMX COURSE AND SKATE PARK AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT MORE EXTENSIVE THAN WHAT WE WERE TOO, [LAUGHTER] BUT WE HAVE 20 ACRES OF LAND OUT THERE THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
>> ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE ALWAYS HAD IS [NOISE] THAT PARK WILL NEVER HAVE A SEWER.
IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A SEPTIC FIELD AND COSTS TO RUN IT WAS PROHIBITIVE, SO WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A SEPTIC AND THE SEPTIC WE HAVE NOW IS COLLAPSED.
SO AT LEAST FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT SO ANYTHING WE DO, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF SEWER CAPACITY.
IF YOU PUT A BIG FACILITY WHERE YOU HAVE 200 PEOPLE AT A TIME, TAKES A SEWER.
REMEMBER, MANY YEARS, KIDS WILL GO TELL MOM, "THERE'S THIS WET STUFF ON MY SHOES WALKING WHERE THE FIELD IS," BECAUSE THE SEWER IS OVERFLOWING.
THAT WOULD BE ONE CONSTRAINT I THINK WOULD BE THE DENSITY WHERE WE PUT IN THERE IF YOU GO FIRST.
>> YEAH. THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS TO NOTE.
ANOTHER IDEA COULD BE A PRAIRIE GRASSLAND CONSERVATION AREA.
I MEAN BACK WE COULD RESTORE THIS AREA NATIVE PRAIRIE GRASSLAND WITH BIRD OBSERVATION TOWERS AND WANDERING PATHWAYS AND TREE PLANTINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WE ALSO DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY HERE WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP SOME OF THAT AND OTHER AREAS.
THIS COULD BE A DEDICATED SPACE FOR THAT SO.
>> IS IT TOO FAR AWAY FOR A DOG PARK? IT'S BIG AND WIDE-OPEN.
>> SAME ROAD GOING OUT TO OUR DOG PARKS BETWEEN HYBRID AND ANDERSON, YOU STAY ON HYBRID TO GET OUT THERE.
I WOULD THINK THAT IT'S TOO FAR OUT.
>> I THINK IT'S TOO FAR FROM US.
>> BUT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT YEARS AGO, LIKE JACKSON DOES RECYCLING.
WE TALKED ABOUT TURNING THAT INTO A PLACE FOR RECYCLE CENTER.
WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A TREE FARM, PLANTING TREES, YOU MOVE AROUND THE CITY.
THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THINGS AND LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME NATURE THING.
PLANT SOME TREES, IF WE WERE PLANTING TREES WHEN WE HAD THIS PART.
LONG AGO WE HAVE LIKE MASTER SLEEPING AREAS, BUT THAT WAS NEVER DONE, BUT THOSE ARE ALL GOOD IDEAS.
SOMETHING NATURE YOU CAN EVEN PUT APOLOGY AND OUT THERE ON THE SIDE OR DO SOMETHING WITH IT, BUT IT IS A VERY HOT AND SUNNY SITE SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TECHNIQUE.
>> THIS IS ALSO TOO FAR FOR IT, A SKATE PARK. LIKE MOST KIDS.
>> THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WITH THEIR SKATEBOARD.
>> NOW, HERE'S WHAT I WILL TELL YOU.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE THIS AND WE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS AS A PARK-LIKE THAT.
IT WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO, LIKE THERE'S A PLACE IN PENNSYLVANIA CALLED WOODWARD.
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WOODWARD IS WHERE LITERALLY ALL OF THE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE GO TO BECOME PROFESSIONAL.INSERT THE THING THAT'S CONSIDERED A TRANSPORT.
WHETHER THAT BE BMX SCENE, WHETHER THAT BE MOTORBIKING WHETHER THAT BE SKATEBOARDING, WHATEVER.
THIS PLACE HAS MULTIPLE FACILITY FOR IT, BUT IT'S ALSO USED AS A COMPETITION PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS THING.
TWENTY ACRES IS PROBABLY MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR THEM THE CATCH IS.
>> THE RESTAURANTS. THE PROBLEM, BUT I THINK IF YOU WERE TO ASK PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 18, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY, IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL TO HAVE A SKATE PARK.
THIS IS REALLY FAR FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TEENAGE KIDS, ARE PRE-TEEN KIDS BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THEM THERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TO IT VERSUS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS A REALLY SMALL SKATE PARK AND SOME PART THAT WE HAVE.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY BUT SHE VALUE BUT I MEAN JUST SOMETHING SMALL THAT THEY HAVE SOME RAMPS, SOME RAILS, WHATEVER, BUT IF YOU DID THIS, YOU COULD DO IT BIG, YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW THAT THE BATHROOM ISSUE WOULD BE HUGE.
>> THAT'S AN ISSUE WITH ACCESSIBILITY.
>> I HOPE THAT WE WILL NEVER USE POT CANS AGAIN, YOU JUST HAVE POT CANS ON IT.
>> I REMEMBER AND THEY WEREN'T NOT GREAT.
>> NOW, HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE PEARLAND RECYCLING CENTER AND NATURE CENTER?
>> YES I HAVE. WE'VE BEEN THERE TOGETHER, BILL.
>> YES, WE HAVE [LAUGHTER] I'M OLD.
>> I WOULD ALSO ADD IF WE WENT INTO THAT LAND AND SAID LET'S GET IT BACK TO LIKE ITS NATURAL STATE.
WHAT A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE A GRAVELLY DIRT PATH FOR RUNNERS OR FOR WALKERS TO BE ON DOING THAT.
>> IF YOU WENT THAT ROUTE, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO OTHER THAN PLANTING TREES.
>> YEAH. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED.
THE OTHER PARK SYSTEMS AND FACILITIES HAVE DEPENDING ON OUR LOCATION AND THEN WE HAVE ZERO EQUESTRIAN TRAILS HERE.
COULD BE CONSIDERATIONS AS OPPOSED TO THE [INAUDIBLE] GROUNDS.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
THIS IS NOT THE FIELD OR THE DIRECTION.
[OVERLAPPING] LET'S REGROUP AND JUST COME BACK.
WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS ONE WITH SOME OTHER CONCEPTS.
>> WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOREVER.
>> IT'S JUST SO FAR AWAY FROM EVERYTHING.
>> BY SKATE PARK IS PROBABLY NOT ANY CENTRAL.
>> YEAH. THAT NEEDS TO BE SMALLER CENTRAL THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH, BUT YES, ALL THE OTHER THINGS. YEAH, ALL.
>> [INAUDIBLE] PARK COULD BE FUN FOR KIDS.
>> THE MAJOR CONSTRAINT TO THIS IS THE LACK OF CITY SERVICES THERE, SO I THINK IF YOU JUST CONCENTRATE ON THAT IS.
>> UNDERSTANDING THE CONSTRAINT.
>> THE VIGOR OF WHAT WORKS WITHIN THAT CONSTRAINT.
MAYBE THAT WOULD BE EASIER THAN TRYING TO DREAM UP ALL THESE GREAT IDEAS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
>> JUST START THE OTHER DIRECTION.
>> A MINIMUM WE HAD TO GET SOME TREES PLANTED SOMEWHERE SO WE CAN.
>> WE CAN DO THAT ANNUALLY SO WE CAN MAKE THAT A PRIORITY.
>> IN 10, 20 YEARS, IT'LL BE FREE. [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT WE CAN SAY 10, 20 YEARS FROM NOW WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IDEA. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE NEED TO DO MORE TREES IN FREEDOM PARK. [OVERLAPPING]
>> RIGHT. ONE THING TO DO, HONESTLY, YOU MENTIONED TREE FARM.
I SPOKE TO BARRY WARD WITH TREES FOR HOUSTON, WHO WE HAVE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS FOR OUR TEXAS ARBOR DAY TREE-PLANTING AND OUR NATIONAL ARBOR DAY GIVEAWAY.
HE SAID, "GIVE ME YOUR PLAN AND I WILL SUPPLY YOU WITH ENDLESS TREES." ONE OF OUR GOALS, WHICH WE HAVEN'T YET GOTTEN THERE, WE WILL ONCE WE HIRE ALL OF OUR STAFF [LAUGHTER], IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE A TREE PLANTING PLAN.
IT COULD BE AGGRESSIVE AS X NUMBER OF TREE PLANTINGS A YEAR SO THAT BY 10 YEARS WE HAVE X NUMBER OF TREES IN THE CITY.
HE'S WILLING TO BE A GREAT PARTNER, A FREE PARTNER REALLY, IT'S JUST LABOR AND STAFF, [LAUGHTER] WHICH THEY ARE GOOD SPORTS ABOUT OUR ANNUAL TREE PLANTING.
THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY PURSUE AND BE AGGRESSIVE ABOUT IN ALL THE PARTS WHERE WE'RE LACKING IN SOME OF THESE TREE CAMPAIGNS.
>> JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, IF YOU WANTED IDEAS AS TO WHAT TO DO WITH 20 ACRES OR SOMETHING, GO TO THE BRAND NEW HOUSTON BOTANICAL GARDENS THEY OPENED UP.
>> THEY'VE GOT SOME COOL STUFF.
THEY GOT A BIG AREA WHERE THEY HAD NOTHING BUT STUMPS AND STICKS AND ROCKS WHERE KIDS CAN PLAY.
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THEY CAN BEAT EACH OTHER WITH THE STICKS, [LAUGHTER] THEY CAN THROW ROCKS AT EACH OTHER, THEY CLIMB ON THESE STUMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE.>> WELL, ON THAT NOTE, YOU JUST MADE ME THINK OF WE TOOK A TRIP TO SAN DIEGO AT SPRING BREAK AND THEY HAD, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS, BUT IT WAS A HUGE PARK SYSTEM AND THEY HAD A CACTUS GARDEN AND THEN THEY HAD A PALM VALLEY, AND THEN THEY HAD A WHAT HAVE YOU, A JAPANESE GARDEN.
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO GO THROUGH AND TRAVEL AND SEE ALL OF THE NATIVE PLANTS AS IT RELATED TO SUCCULENTS OR CACTUS OR WHATEVER.
ANYWAYS, THERE ARE SEVERAL IDEAS.
WE'LL COME BACK TO THE GROUP WITH DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
THE NEXT ONE, OFFICER CASH MEMORIAL DOG PARK.
SOME OF THE ITEMS IN THE MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN ACTION ITEM 3.8.A: CONSIDER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CURRENT DOG PARK AREAS INCLUDING ENTRANCE AND ACCESS, NEW LOCATION AWAY FROM THE SHELTER SOUTHSIDE ALONG KIBER STREET.
ADDITIONAL FEATURES, SHADE STRUCTURES, TREES, ETC.
ADD WATER SOURCE FOR THE DOGS, PARKING, AND OTHER AREAS TO ENHANCE THE PARK.
ACTION 3.8.B: CONSIDER A MASTER PLAN TO LOCATE A SECOND PARK AND TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN WITH INPUT FROM DOG PARK USERS.
WE COULD CONSIDER [NOISE] A DOG PARK AT ANOTHER AREA OR WE COULD REDEVELOP THE ONE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
ALREADY WORKING WITH CHRIS ON AN ALTERNATE ACCESS OFF OF KIBER SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DEMOLISHING SOME OF THE DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS OFF KIBER AND ANDERSON THAT ARE CITY-OWNED.
THAT'LL OPEN UP THAT SPACE QUITE A BIT FOR US TO REDEVELOP.
WHAT I'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS INPUT FROM STEVEN THAT WE RECEIVED REGARDING THE DOG PARK, JUST THINGS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM A DOG PARK USER'S PERSPECTIVE.
SOME OF THOSE THINGS INCLUDE TWO DIFFERENT SPACES, ONES FOR LARGE DOGS AND SMALL DOGS, WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE BUT OUR SMALL DOG SPACE IS BEING UTILIZED BY THE ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER.
SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT COMPLETELY SEPARATE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE DOGS ARE COMING FROM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
A SIX-FOOT OR HIGHER FENCE, DOUBLE-GATED ENTRY AND EXIT, THAT IS HELPFUL WHEN WASHING OFF DOGS IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO A DOG PARK, KEEPING THEM CONTAINED WHILE YOU'RE SPRAYING THEM DOWN AND LEASHING OR UNLEASHING.
PLENTY OF SEATING WITH BENCHES, A WASH STATION, MAYBE 3-4 HOSES.
YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN STALL, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, INDIVIDUAL SITTING THAT CAN'T BE MOVED, PICNIC TABLES, ETC.
WALKING TRAIL AROUND THE PERIMETER.
IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE JACKSON ONE, THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
THEY HAVE A WALKING TRAIL SO THAT WHILE YOUR DOG'S RUNNING AROUND, YOU CAN ALSO GET EXERCISE ON A TRAIL WITHIN THE PARK, AND THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THE BIG DOG AREA WHERE YOU COULD THROW A FRISBEE OR A BALL WITHOUT COMING INTO CONTACT WITH ANYONE ELSE.
A COUPLE OF OBSTACLES, HOWEVER.
HE NOTED THAT HE DOESN'T SEE THEM GETTING USED MUCH ONCE HE'S VISITED.
I AGREE, UNLESS IT'S LIKE THE PEDESTALS OR IT'S LIKE SOME BERMING WHERE DOGS ARE PERCHING, IF YOU WILL.
WATER DRINKING STATION THAT COMES OUT OF THE TOP AND BOTTOM.
PLENTY OF SPACES FOR SHADE, TREES COVERING SEATING, WATER FEATURES ARE A MUST. I AGREE.
IF YOU GO, PLEASE DO VISIT SUGARLAND DOG PARK.
THEY HAVE A GREAT WATER AMENITY THERE.
WHILE IT CAN BE A HEADACHE TO MAINTAIN, YOU CAN LOOK INTO VERY SIMILARLY AS FLASHBACK COMPONENTS FOR SOME OF THESE DOGS OR DO UNITS.
ACTUALLY, SUGARLAND, IT'S RIGHT THERE AT THE CENTER LEFT.
I INCLUDED FROM ONE OF OUR PARK TOURS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
>> THEY'VE GOT THAT INTEGRATED INTO A REGULAR PARK TOO WHERE PEOPLE GO EVERY WEDNESDAY AND STUFF. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ABSOLUTELY, IT IS. THEIR MEMORIAL PARK.
>> BEAUTIFUL. YEAH, MEMORIAL PARK.
IT DISAPPEARS PERIODICALLY [LAUGHTER] BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
>> YES, AND THEN PUT TRASH CANS, OF COURSE, WITH AVAILABLE BAGS.
THOSE ARE SOME COMPONENTS THAT YOU SEE THERE.
THE CENTER ONE, THAT'S JUST A SPRAY ELEMENT THAT YOU CAN SEE THE DOGS ARE ACTIVE, THE WATER FEATURE, DOGS ARE ACTIVE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT, I REALLY LIKE THE BERMING WITH PLANTS.
IT JUST ADDS TEXTURE AND THEY WILL GET USED.
SOME OF THESE WATER FEATURES, JUST A DIFFERENT KIND OF DRINKING FOUNTAIN FOR THE DOGS.
SHADE STRUCTURES WITH BONE SEATING.
WHILE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, AGAIN, SHADE STRUCTURES ARE A MUST.
BERMING WITH TUNNELS, BOTTOM RIGHT IS [OVERLAPPING] ANOTHER ITEM THAT DOGS AND PROBABLY KIDS WOULD ENJOY.
[LAUGHTER] THEN YOUR PET WASTE STATIONS.
YOU CAN SEE THE CONCEPT OF THE DOUBLE DANE AND THE SMALL DOG, LARGE DOG ENTRIES, AND THE SIGNAGE THAT IS INVOLVED WITH THAT.
WHAT CONSISTS OF A LARGE DOG, WHAT'S A SMALL DOG, WHAT'S APPROPRIATE IN EACH AREA.
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THOSE ARE SOME OF THE VISUAL ELEMENTS FOR THAT ONE.DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY ADDITIONS? I MEAN OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THESE VISUALS AREN'T ALL-ENCOMPASSING OF WHAT STEVEN HAS PROVIDED.
>> WE HAVE SO MUCH IN OUR PACKET I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE I SAW.
WASN'T THERE A WHOLE SECTION ON DOG PARKS IN THE PARK STANDARD MANUAL? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE MAY HAVE BEEN. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I GOT SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS THERE.
[OVERLAPPING] AND ALWAYS PIGGYBACKED DOWN THERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY'VE GOT SEVERAL OTHER REALLY GOOD IDEAS IN THERE.
>> IN FACT, I THINK TO HAVE IT CONSTRUCT THE WATER DRINKING THING.
>> WHERE ARE WE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THIS DOG PARK?
>> I HAVE A BETTER QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S CORRELATES WITH THAT.
LEGITIMATELY, WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THE AREA LIKE THIS TO EVEN BE?
>> LIKE I SAID THERE'S THAT WALK IN, I SAID THAT MIDDLE LEFT, THAT'S THEIR PARK.
>> I'M SAYING WE GOT TO HAVE WATER FOR PEOPLE OR KIDS BEFORE WE DO DOGS.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO UPSET PEOPLE. [LAUGHTER]
>> [INAUDIBLE] OFF TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS JUST OPEN.
>> YEAH, IT'S JUST A HUGE, OPEN SPACE.
>> AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO AND FRISBEE.
>> TRULY. IT'S PROBABLY EVEN A [INAUDIBLE]
>> I DON'T REMEMBER A SMALL DOG AREA.
>> YEAH, I THINK HE'S RIGHT. IT'S WHERE THAT PAVILION-LOOKING STRUCTURE.
>> OKAY. IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> I WAS SURPRISED WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH SEEING HOW MANY PEOPLE GO TO DOG PARKS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DOGS IN THEIR FAMILY, AND THEY GO TO DOG PARKS LIKE YOU AND I WOULD GO TO DISNEY [OVERLAPPING] OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND I'M SURE STEVEN HAS PROBABLY TRAVELED TO DOG PARKS ALL OVER, BUT I WAS READING SOME OF THE PARLANCE, THEY DID A SURVEY AND DOG PARKS CAME UP A NUMEROUS AMOUNT.
THIS WAS A SURVEY FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND [INAUDIBLE] LAKE CITY, DOG PARKS WERE PROBABLY THE THIRD MOST ASKED THING.
I HAD NO IDEA THAT THEY WERE THAT BIG A DEAL, BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE DOING A DOG PARK, LET'S NOT DO IT LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE NOW.
>> BUT [NOISE] YOU WERE SAYING WE ARE GOING TO TEAR DOWN SOME BUILDINGS IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY.
LET'S SAY YOU TAKE TWO OF THOSE BUILDINGS DOWN, HOW MUCH ROOM WOULD THAT GIVE US IN THAT AREA BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE IT ALIGNED WITH THE SHELTER, CORRECT?
>> I DON'T KNOW. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ALIGN WITH IT AT ALL.
>> IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE? OKAY.
>> ACTUALLY, RIGHT NOW, FOR US, IT'S A CONSTRAINT.
>> LET ME JUST ADDRESS THAT REAL QUICK.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL BUILDING ON ANDERSON, TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS WHAT'S TYPICALLY REFERRED TO AS THE BARNS.
THEY'RE JUST TWO METAL SHEDS VIRTUALLY.
WE'RE GOING TO TEAR THOSE DOWN, WE'RE GOING TO NAME IT SOMETHING, AND THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AREA, SO WE'VE GOT CONTAINERS OVER THERE ALREADY WITH MRES AND BOTTLED WATER AND MANAGEMENT SUPPLIES.
THE QUESTION IS: DO WE BUILD SOMETHING ELSE, ITS STORAGE AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STUFF? THE BUILDING ON [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S JUST REALLY A STORAGE BUILDING, AND SO MY DISCUSSION WITH MEGAN IS WHEN WE CLEAN THAT OUT, WHICH WE'RE DOING THIS MONTH, AND WE'LL TEAR IT DOWN NEXT MONTH, IS GIVE THAT OVER TO PARKS AND ALLOW THAT TO BE A PARKING SO THAT IT DECONFLICTS PEOPLE PARKING OVER BY THE ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER WHICH IS PRETTY LIMITED AND PROVIDES THAT ACCESS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
OBVIOUSLY, NOT TO REBUILD THE BUILDING THERE, BUT ENHANCE THE PARKING AND ENHANCE ALL THE ENTRY FEATURES AND STUFF THAT MEGAN TALKED ABOUT.
>> JUST TO REITERATE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE HAD PLANNED ORIGINALLY TO DO THE REDEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE?
>> FOR SOME REASON, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M NOT FINDING THIS. OH, IT'S RIGHT HERE.
WELL, UNLESS THE CITY HAS ANOTHER USE FOR THAT AREA, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A DECENT DOG PARK THERE, BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED ONE ON THE OTHER [NOISE] SIDE OF TOWN AS WELL UNLESS WE DO A REALLY BIG ONE FOR THE ENTIRE AREA.
>> HONESTLY, I THINK THE PRIORITY SHOULD BE FINDING A LOCATION THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
[OVERLAPPING] I'M WITH YOU ON HAVING MULTIPLES IF WE COULD GET TO THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL TO GET [OVERLAPPING]
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE LUCKY TO HAVE ONE.
COME ON, YOU-ALL, I DON'T THINK WE CAN HAVE TWO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I WOULD SAY THAT WAS BASED ON CITY OF LAKE JACKSON'S RECENT CONSTRUCTION.
>> WELL, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF WE USE THAT AS A DOLLAR FIGURE,
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I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD TWO.IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, GO BIG, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.
>> I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT LOCATION CURRENTLY IS, EVEN IF YOU TORE DOWN SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS, IS THAT LOCATION GOING TO BE BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT A SENSE OF A GO BIG-TYPE CONCEPT.
I'M THINKING IT'D BE REALLY COOL TO HAVE IT CONNECTED TO AN ACTUAL PARK PARK.
DO A LOT OF DOG PARKS CONNECTED TO OTHER PARKS, OR ARE THEY JUST INDIVIDUAL STAND-ALONE ONES?
>> YEAH, LIKE SUGARLAND WAS, BAY AREA, PRECINCT 2 IS.
>> WE HAVE SHARED INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE HAVE PARKING. WE HAVE [OVERLAPPING]
>> DUPLICATE THAT [INAUDIBLE].
>> HOW MUCH IS THAT AREA [OVERLAPPING] DOG PARK, FIVE ACRES?
>> THE HIGH SCHOOL, TO ME, THAT'S A GOOD AREA FOR DOGS.
>> LIKE STEVEN SAID, YOU WANT A PLACE TO THROW.
YOU HAVE BIG DOGS THAT LIKE TO RUN.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE NEW HOUSES COMING, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE LITTLE BACKYARDS.
>> THE DOGS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET OUT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE, SO WHEN YOU HAVE A 45-FOOT LOT WITH YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHAT YOU SEE IN ROSEWOOD TOO.
MAYBE A 15-FOOT BACKYARD, SO YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM TO THESE PARKS, BUT YOU WANT THE BIG DOGS, TOO.
WE USED TO HAVE, BEFORE WE MOVED TO HERITAGE OAKS, SEVERAL DOG TRAINING THAT DID LABS TRAINING, AND THEY HAD A THING THEY THREW FOR THE DOGS TO TEACH THEM HOW TO RETRIEVE.
THEY WOULD COME OUT TO SOME OF THE LAKES IN HERITAGE OAKS.
AT THAT TIME, I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THEM TEACHING THEIR DOGS, BUT THEY NEED A LARGE ROOM.
THIS ROOM, THIS WOULD BE TOO SMALL A BODY OF WATER SO THAT'S WHY YOU NEED IT. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE LAND NEXT TO THE EXISTING DOG PARK, WE WOULD PROBABLY MINIMIZE WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE DOG PARKS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT, BUT PUTTING IT NEXT TO OUR PROXIMITY TO INFRASTRUCTURE WILL SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY.
YOU ALREADY HAVE RESTROOM, YOU HAVE PARKING, AND EVERYTHING THERE.
IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO, LIKE YOU SAID, FREEDOM PARK [OVERLAPPING].
>> IF YOU HAVE ON THE NORTH SIDE, THE NEW SECTION WE HAD INCORPORATE DOGS.
THERE'RE A LOT OF OPTIONS, BUT I HATE SEEING US CREATE A NEW PARK WITHOUT NEW INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE THE BIGGEST PART OF YOUR EXPENSE IN DOG PARKS: THE PARKING, THE RESTROOMS, THE LIGHTING, ALL THAT STUFF, [OVERLAPPING] AND THE ACTUALLY DOG FACILITIES WILL BE CHEAP.
>> HOW ABOUT ON THIS ONE, WE CONSIDER THESE COMPONENTS? ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE COMPONENTS THAT STEVEN HAS PROPOSED AND ALSO WHAT WE SEE? THEN WE TRY TO ASSESS SOME LARGER SPACES, MAYBE AN EXISTING PARKS, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH THIS ONE.
THEN SOMETHING TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD, IF THAT IS GOING TO BE A CONSIDERATION, WE COULD POTENTIALLY DEVELOP THIS CURRENT PIECE OF LAND OFF OF KIBER AS ANOTHER LOCAL RESIDENTIAL PARK BECAUSE IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA WHICH WE'D SERVE.
STILL, YOU'RE SERVING SOUTH SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPING SOME MORE ACCESSIBLE SPACES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] EVEN IF YOU DID THE [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T MEAN THAT IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY [INAUDIBLE]
>> I THINK WE DID A MORE CONSIDERABLE DOG PARK THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET A HIGHER DOLLAR DONOR WHO MAY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE, WHETHER IT'S ONE OF CELTIS DOWN IN FREEPORT OR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WE WANT TO PUT THEIR NAME ON A LARGE PARK VERSUS WHAT WE GOT NOW.
>> OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GETTING TO THE LAST ONE, [OVERLAPPING] ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.
THESE WERE SOME THINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAD MENTIONED THAT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO PULL FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED ACTION 2.8.C, REEVALUATE USE OF SPACE IN THE REC CENTER TO IMPROVE PROGRAMMING AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
3.5.A, CONSIDER BEST USE OF SPACES INDOORS FOR RECREATION CENTER AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR USE OF PARTNER FACILITIES.
3.13.A, EVALUATE AND CONSIDER THE BEST OPTIONS TO IMPROVE AND INCREASE LEVEL OF SERVICE THROUGH POSSIBLE EXPANSION TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL SEATING FOR ENTRANCE WAY, ADDITIONAL ROOM FOR PROGRAMMED EXERCISE CLASSES, COMMERCIAL/TEACHING KITCHEN, BABYSITTING SPACE, INDOOR WALKING TRACK, OUTDOOR SPLASH PAD, OUTDOOR LOOP TRAIL, OUTDOOR FITNESS COURT.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD MENTIONED.
STRAWBERRY PARK IS UPPER LEFT.
THESE ARE JUST SLIDES THAT GO INTO AN EXISTING FACILITY, BUT IT MAKES THE PARK LOOK SUBSTANTIAL.
AT THIS PARK, ADDITIONALLY, IS A LAZY RIVER, THERE'S A SPLASH PAD COMPONENT AND AN OPEN SWIM AREA THAT IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO WHAT WE HAVE INSIDE THE FACILITY, [LAUGHTER] AND SO IF YOU MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE, YOU EXPAND THAT OR WERE TO EXPAND IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND THEN ALSO HAVE JUST AN OUTDOOR DECK BATHING AREA LIKE YOU MENTIONED, CLARA, YOU INCREASE YOUR CAPACITY.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE, AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A POOL.
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IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE EPIC SPLASH PAD COMPONENTS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT AT THESE OTHER LOCATIONS.BUT ONE THING THAT PASADENA DOES, THIS TOP CENTER PICTURE, ARE RENTABLE CABANAS, SO PARENTS THAT WANT SHADE, BUT STILL WANT TO BE OUTSIDE WHILE THEIR KIDS ARE PLAYING, THAT'S ANOTHER POTENTIAL REVENUE STREAM, OTHERWISE JUST HAVING OUTDOOR LOUNGERS THAT CAN BE SEATED OUTSIDE.
ONE OF THE MAJOR CONSTRAINTS THAT I SEE IN OUR EXISTING FACILITY, AND I KNOW JERRY JUST [LAUGHTER] WANTS TO KILL ME WITH SOME OF MY COMMENTS, BUT ALL WE HAVE ARE PLASTIC CHAIRS IN THE AUDITORIUM CURRENTLY OR A CONCRETE BENCH IN THE AREA.
WE HAVE NO LOUNGING SPACE FOR PARENTS THAT ARE THERE BUT READING A BOOK OR WHAT HAVE YOU WHILE THEIR KIDS OR TEENAGERS OR ADULTS ARE SWIMMING.
TO EXPAND THE DECK AREA, LET IT GO OUTSIDE, HAVE GARAGE DOOR OPENERS INSTEAD OF THE SCREENING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WOULD ALL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES AT THE REC CENTER.
SOME OF THE THINGS WHEN WE ARE WORKING ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE'RE CONSIDERING A PLAY SPACE INDOORS THAT WAS VISIBLE BY WEIGHT ROOM USERS SO THAT A PARENT COULD POTENTIALLY WORK OUT WHILE STILL HAVING AN EYE ON THEIR CHILDREN AND NOT HAVING TO PAY CARE ATTENDANTS FOR THE FACILITY [OVERLAPPING]
>> JUST LIKE THE MCDONALD'S THING INDOOR.
>> JUST A NEW CONCEPT ON THAT.
FITNESS SPACE, A DEDICATED FITNESS SPACE WOULD BE AMAZING.
WE HAVE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM WHICH IS MULTIFUNCTIONAL, BUT WE ARE NEAR GROWING OUT OF THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH US PARTNERING WITH ACTIONS IN OFFERING COMMUNAL MEALS OR CONGREGANT MEALS AT LUNCH.
THAT IMMEDIATELY TAKES AWAY A RENTABLE SPACE OR EXPANSION OF OUR CLASSES, SO [OVERLAPPING]
>> IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN DOING OUTDOOR EXERCISE, OR IS IT TOO HOT?
>> WE HAVE DONE IT, YEAH. WE HAVE TRIED.
>> NOT INTERESTED? PEOPLE AREN'T INTERESTED?
>> [LAUGHTER] THEY REALLY AREN'T. WE EVEN TRIED [OVERLAPPING]
>> I LOVE GOING TO THE BEACH AND DOING YOGA AND THE STUFF. I JUST LOVE THAT.
>> WE ALSO TRIED TO COLLABORATE WITH PEACH STREET FARMERS MARKET ON SATURDAYS FOR OUTDOOR [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SWEATING IN FRONT OF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND I CAN SEE THAT, THAT DIDN'T THROW ME EITHER.
>> INDOOR TRACK ABOVE THE GYM IS A CONCEPT PICTURE LISTED HERE AND THEN THE ONES THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
THE CENTER PICTURE IS OUR EXISTING PLAZA WITH ADDITIONAL SEATING, WE'RE PURCHASING MORE OF THOSE FOR THE PLAZA SPACE.
THE BOTTOM-LEFT IS, IOWA COLONY THEY'RE MERIDIANA MASTER PLANNED AREA.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WE MOVE TOWARDS AND THAT PLAZA SPACE IS KNOCKING DOWN THAT WALL, ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND VEGETATION WHICH ACTUALLY IS ALREADY THERE NOW.
ERECTING SOME POLLS WITH STRAND LIGHTING, PUTTING IN SOME OF YOUR CONCRETE AMENITIES LIKE CORNHOLE AND PING-PONG, AND THEN UTILIZING THAT AS AN ACTIVE RENTAL SPACE AS WELL.
REMOVING THE WALL WILL IMMEDIATELY CREATE VISIBILITY, WAS IT YOU HONEY WHO SAID THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS THERE.
>> THE WATER DISTRIBUTION USING THE SPACE FOR THIS [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]
>> HOW MANY WOULD IT HOLD? I MEAN, HOW BIG IS IT?
>> YOU COULD PROBABLY PUT, LOOK AT THE LITTLE UMBRELLA THING.
>> THAT'S A NINE-FOOT UMBRELLA.
>> YOU COULD PROBABLY PUT FIVE, SIX OF THOSE THINGS, IF YOU TEAR DOWN THE WALL, YOU HAVE EVEN MORE SPACE.
IT'D BE A COOL LITTLE SPOT THAT YOU COULD RENT OUT AND HAVE A LITTLE GATHERING, HAVE A BREAKTHROUGH IT OR WHATEVER.
>> EVEN USE FOR I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY SUMMER GROUPS COME TO OUR FACILITY AND SO USING THAT AS A LUNCH SPACE FOR SOME OF THE DAYCARES THEY HAVE OR EVEN OUR OWN SUMMER CAMP.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT PROGRAMMING THAT SPACE AND WE WILL BE BRINGING A PROPOSAL TO AVLC AT THE NEXT MEETING.
>> ONE OF THE OTHER KEY THINGS ABOUT THE REC CENTERS IS ITS LOCATION, IT'S MORE PEOPLE CAN WALK TO THIS AND THE OTHER PARK WE HAVE.
>> THERE'S SOME DESIGNATION IF YOU TALK ABOUT SOMETHING TO THE ACCESSIBILITY.
>> TEN MINUTE WALK TO A PARK. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL?
>> I THINK SO. CERTAINLY, TALK ABOUT ONE TIME BUT IT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, LAKESIDE PARK IS NOT A BIG WALKING PARK.
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PUTTING THINGS OUTSIDE MAKES SENSE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD DO A PARTY OUTSIDE AND THE KIDS ARE ON A SPLASH PAD OR ON SOMETHING, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN THROUGH THE OPEN DOORS TO GO IN THE SWIMMING POOL.
UNLESS YOU HAD WRISTBANDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING SOMEWHERE ELSE, DO YOU JUST FIGURE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, OR DO YOU TRY TO CONTROL THE NON-PAYING PEOPLE FOR THE REC CENTER AND THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE HAVING A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR IF YOU HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE POOL?
>> WE CURRENTLY HAVE SYSTEMS IN PLACE WHERE THEY UTILIZE THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS AND THEY HAVE PRIVATE PARTY POOL ACCESS.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO REDEVELOP OR I DON'T FEEL LIKE OUR PARTY PAD IN THE BACK IS CURRENTLY USED.
I WOULD LOVE TO REDEVELOP THAT USE BECAUSE IT IS DIRECTLY OFF THE PATH OF THE POOL, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE IS POTENTIALLY ENCLOSE THAT SOMEHOW, MAKE IT MORE USER-FRIENDLY TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY WANTING TO RENT THAT OR MAYBE THAT IS THE ONLY OPTION.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR CURRENT REVENUE.
>> HOW MUCH SPACE IS BEHIND THE ENTIRETY OF THE COMPLEX THAT'S FURTHER [INAUDIBLE]?
>> WE STARTED INITIALLY LOOKING AT THE TRAIL SYSTEM TOO, AND ALL THE LAND THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD IS NOT ALL OF OUR LAND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONSTRAINT OF OURS.
>> THERE IS A GARAGE OR SOMETHING THAT STICKS OUT THERE SOMEWHERE TOO.
>> YEAH, THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
I'M SORRY, JERRY CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE REVENUE WHILE I TRY TO PULL THIS UP?
>> WHEN THE INDOOR OPTIONS GET BOOKED OR THE OUTDOOR OPTION, IF YOU'RE NOT WANTING AS AN INTENSIVE A PARTY, IT A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN THE INDOOR OPTIONS.
WE DO RENT OUT THE PARTY PAD NOT AS MUCH AS WE DID THE INDOOR OPTIONS.
LIKE SHE'S SAYING, THE MAIN THING TO ME IS THE APPEAL, IT'S BEHIND THE CENTER.
SO AS A GUEST, BRINGING IN ALL YOUR STUFF TO GET AT THE PARTY, YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT THROUGH THE POOL AREA, BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY SIGNS INS, GETS A WRISTBAND THAT COMES TOO.
GUESTS HAVE ASKED, "CAN WE UNLOAD ON THE BACKSIDE?" BUT I'M LIKE, "YES, YOU MAY.
HOWEVER, YOUR GUESTS CANNOT FOLLOW YOU THAT WAY BECAUSE WE GOT TO MAKE SURE" SO THEN IF THEY BRING THEIR STUFF THROUGH THE REC CENTER.
THEN THERE COMES LIKE, "THEY GOT TO BRING THEIR COOLER IN, HOW COME WE CAN'T BRING?" SO IT DOES BRING UP THAT.
IT'S FENCED IN, IT'S NOT PRETTY I'LL JUST SAY IT THAT WAY.
IT'S NOT PRETTY, WE WOULD LIKE TO REDEVELOP THE PICNIC TABLES JUST BECAUSE THE PICNIC TABLES THERE HAVE WARPED OVER THE YEARS.
JUST THE OUTSIDE AREA, MEGAN AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WHETHER YOU CONCRETE IT OUT ALL AROUND RATHER THAN JUST ONE NARROW AREA THAT JUST GATE IT IN.
IT DOES HAVE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A BETTER SPACE.
>> WHEN WE EXPAND, WE NEED TO CONSIDER DETENTION REQUIREMENTS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO PULL UP BECAUSE AS WE STARTED ASSESSING A WALKING TRAIL, A WALKING LOOP PATH, ORIGINALLY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TAKING IT AROUND THE DETENTION.
WELL, THIS IS NOT OURS SO THAT IS GOING TO PREVENT US FROM TAKING A LARGER LOOP WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY NICE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVEN'T BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE OWNER, SO IT MAY STILL BE AN OPTION BUT WE MAY BE LIMITED TO JUST THIS AREA.
THE AREA THAT CHRIS WAS TALKING ABOUT IS THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL SHED BACK HERE AND SO WHILE THIS LOOKS LIKE OPEN SPACE THAT BELONGS TO THE REC CENTER, WELL, ACTUALLY IT IS.
>> WHERE IS THE EMPTY [INAUDIBLE] OF BUILDINGS RIGHT THERE.
>> THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY BEHIND IT?
>> NO. BUT WE HAVE THESE OPEN LOTS, THOSE ARE CITY OF ANGLETON, THIS ONE IS NOT AND SO IT JUST JUTS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE CREATIVE WHEN WE LOOK AT DESIGNING AND EXPANDING HIS AREA.
>> MAYBE [INAUDIBLE] WILL SELL IT.
>> THAT'S YOUR AREA WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR RECTANGLE NOW IT THAT WE PREFER TO HAVE THE NEW AMENITIES OR YOU PREFER TO HAVE THEM IN THE BACK?
>> I WOULD SAY IT'D BE EASIER TO EXPAND IN THE BACK.
BUT [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO ADVERTISE SOME AMENITIES TOO.
THAT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FOR RESIDENTS.
>> WE DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYTHING DIRECTLY BEHIND THE BUILDING, BECAUSE THAT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE THERE AND WE COULD PAT ON THE BACK DOOR.
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>> THE GYM AREA, WE WOULD WANT TO EXPAND HERE.
WE'VE GOT SOME SPACES THAT ARE VERY UNDERUTILIZED LIKE THIS SPACE, BUT IT COULD BE ADDITIONAL PARKING.
IT ALREADY IS IN THIS SMALL AREA.
BUT DOING CONCRETE PADDING AND POTENTIALLY RATHER THAN TAKING WALKING [INAUDIBLE] HERE, WE MAY HAVE TO USE THAT FOR DRAINAGE, IS TAKING IT TO THE FRONT AND DOING A LOOP AROUND THE HALL.
>> WHO OWNS THE BIG GREEN SPACE AT THE TOP RIGHT?
>> IT IS, BUT IT MAY BE UTILIZED FOR POTENTIAL POLICE DEPARTMENT EXPANSION WITH OTHER FACILITIES LIKE MUNICIPAL COURT.
I'M NOT SURE WE'D BE ABLE TO USE.
>> USED TO BE A BUNCH OF BACKSTOPS.
>> THERE'S STILL ONE THERE CURRENTLY.
>> IT'S A BUSY CORNER OUT THERE.
>> OUR SELL STACKS IS DOING BETTER THOUGH, RIGHT?
>> IT IS, IT REALLY IS AND WE'RE REALLY CONSERVATIVE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE REC CENTER AND SO HOPEFULLY, WE SHOULD SEE SOME SAVINGS THERE.
>> WELL, I WAS RUNNING THIS MEETING IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER TWO HOURS AGO.
>> YOU'RE DOING ALL THE TALKING.
>> ARE WE READY TO BE ADJOURNED?
>> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, MEETING ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.