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>> ALL RIGHT. [NOISE] I WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

WE HAVE A DECLARATION, OF COM, AND WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO A REGULAR AGENDA [NOISE] ITEM NUMBER 1,

[1. Discussion on installation of the Henderson Road 48” Culverts and upgrades to Levy at Sewer Plant.]

DISCUSSION ON INSTALLATION OF THE ANDERSON ROAD OF 48 CULVERTS AND UPGRADES TO LEVY, AS YOUR PLAN. [NOISE]

>> I'M NOT JEFF SEFAR, BUT [LAUGHTER] I'LL ABBREVIATE IN PUPPET WARP SOMETHING.

THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING IS PART OF THE WINDROSE GREEN DEVELOPMENT AND PARTNERSHIP WITH ADG IS ALMOST DONE.

WE'RE WAITING ON THE CULVERTS, WHICH I WAS TOLD SHOULD BE IN THIS WEEK.

I'M SORRY, NOT THE CULVERTS, THE GUARD RAILS.

[OVERLAPPING] MY APOLOGIES. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I WAS LIKE, "OH MY GOD, IT'S NEXT TO MY CHURCH." [LAUGHTER]

>> SORRY. WE'RE WAITING ON THOSE GUARD RAILS TO COME IN.

WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO INSTALL THEM.

I HOPE TO GET AN UPDATE THIS WEEK AND I'LL LET EVERYONE KNOW FROM OUR WEEKLY REPORT.

>> IT'S THE GUARDRAILS THAT WE'RE MISSING.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THAT'S WHY A LOT OF CITIZENS BEEN ASKING ABOUT THAT.

>> YEAH, IT'S A SAFETY THING.

IF YOU OPEN UP AND THEN PEOPLE START WALKING, THEN THEY HAVE A WRONG STEP OR SOMETHING OR WHATEVER, THEN [OVERLAPPING].

>> IN THE DITCH.

>> IT WILL BE OUR LIABILITY.

>> OKAY.

>> THE NEXT ONE IS THE LEVEE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

>> OKAY.

>> THE FENCE HAS BEEN DOWN IN THE BACK.

WE HAD SOME RAIN.

NOW THE DIRT IS GOING IN BACK THERE TO REDO THE LEVEE.

ONCE THEY GET DONE WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL WORK UP THE SIDES AND THEN WORK UP THE FRONT.

FOR THE OVERALL PROTECTION OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WHICH APPARENTLY HAS FLOODED ONCE OR TWICE IN HISTORY.

[NOISE] PART OF THAT, WE'VE GOT ACR.

[NOISE] PROBABLY THERE'S A PROPOSAL IN THE PAST TO RAISE THE ROAD TO MATCH THE LEVEE WHEN IT'S DONE.

WE'RE GETTING THEM THE DUST SET OFF FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION SO THAT WE PROTECT THE WHOLE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

I EXPECT THIS TO BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS' PROJECT DEPENDING ON RAIN, WEATHER, AND SOME OTHER STUFF, BUT WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED.

>> OKAY. DO WE REMEMBER THE AMOUNT THAT AVLC'S FUNDING TO THIS?

>> NOTHING'S BEING FUNDED THROUGH AVLC.

>> OKAY.

>> I APOLOGIZE.

THE LEVEE IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH ADG.

THE DIRT'S COMING FROM OUTBACK AND IN OTHER LOCATIONS.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FENCING AND REPLACING SOME FENCING, BUT IT'S NOT A HUGE DOLLAR COST.

I GUESS BOTH PROJECTS ARE ADG SPECIFIC PARTNERSHIPS.

>> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE OUTLINED IN NUMBER 1?

>> NO, SIR.

>> ANYBODY ELSE UP HERE?

>> NO.

>> ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION ON THE AVLC AND RECREATION CENTER,

[2. Discussion on the ABLC and Recreation Center YTD Financial Statements May 2021.]

YEAR-TO-DATE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS MAY 2021.

[BACKGROUND] [NOISE]

>> THANKS, MEGHAN, FOR PUTTING ME AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA.

[LAUGHTER] A LITTLE MORE FRESH.

[LAUGHTER] THE SUMMARY ON THE FINANCIALS IS, THE SALES TAX IS OBVIOUSLY TWO MONTHS BEHIND, BUT WE'RE TRENDING AT 5.67 PERCENT, YEAR TO DATE, THAT'S THROUGH SEVEN MONTHS.

IF YOU LOOK AT A 12-MONTH ROLLING AVERAGE, IT'S EVEN HIGHER THAN THAT.

IT'S OVER 10 PERCENT.

SALES TAX IS DOING WELL.

THE REC CENTER IS DOWN HERE TO DATE, DUE TO COVID OBVIOUSLY, BUT THE TREND IS IMPROVING AT THIS POINT.

WE'VE ALSO FINISHED THE ROUTE PROJECT THAT CAME OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY FUND BALANCE THAT WAS $217,000 IN THE REC CENTER.

WE'VE GOT A CLEAN AUDIT OPINION, I THINK SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET.

AS WELL AS TRANSFERS ARE NOW IN THEIR THROUGH MARCH, WE'RE DOING QUARTERLY.

THESE ARE MAY FINANCIALS BUT THE TRANSFERS WERE IN THERE THROUGH THE SECOND QUARTER WHICH WOULD BE MARCH.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? [OVERLAPPING].

>> I JUST HAVE ONE.

REFRESH MY MEMORY WHY IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY OTHER YEAR, WE HAVE A NEGATIVE AND A POSITIVE, THEN A NEGATIVE ON YOUR SALES TAX HISTORY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOLLAR INCREASE IN PERCENTAGE, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY OTHER YEAR IS JUST THE OPPOSITE.

>> BY MONTH OR BY YEAR? [OVERLAPPING]

>>THE VERY BOTTOM IS SHOWN AS NEGATIVE.

THE DOLLAR INCREASES ANNUALLY. I CAN'T REMEMBER.

I THINK SUSIE TOLD US ONE TIME BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT'S THE REASON OR IF THERE IS A REASON.

>> LAST YEAR, IT WAS 11 PERCENT, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE, IT WAS SLIGHTLY DOWN 0.61 PERCENT.

>> YEAH. ONE YEAR IS DOWN, ONE YEAR IS UP, ONE YEAR IS DOWN, ONE YEAR IS UP.

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I KNOW IF THAT WAS JUST AN ODDITY YEAR, THERE'S A REASON [OVERLAPPING].

>> I THINK IT'S AN ODDITY.

I THINK THE CURRENT TREND IS REALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S TRENDING NOW, AND THAT'S BASED ON OUR CURRENT BUSINESSES AND WHERE WE'RE AT.

I MEAN, 18 AND 19 JOHN, YOU REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED THAT YEAR THAT MIGHT HAVE LED [BACKGROUND]

>> THERE WAS ONE YEAR WE GET A BUNCH OF MONEY FROM SALES TAX FOR SOME PIPE. [OVERLAPPING].

>> PIPE.

>> BUT, I DON'T RECALL WHAT YEAR THAT WAS.

>> [BACKGROUND] I DON'T WANT TO SAY 14. [INAUDIBLE]

>> RIGHT. THE OTHER POSITIVE FUTURE OCCURRENCES, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CHANGE ON OCTOBER 1ST.

THE ACTUAL SHIPPING ADDRESS, FOR INTERNET SALES AND APP SALES, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE FROM THE SHIPPING POINT TO THE ACTUAL LOCATION WHERE IT'S DELIVERED.

SINCE WE DON'T HAVE SHIPPING POINTS LARGE, IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE CITY, AND THE CITY BILL GOING FORWARD.

THAT'S OCTOBER 1ST. [NOISE] I THINK THAT'S A BIG NUMBER, BUT I DON'T KNOW [NOISE] WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE.

>> BASED ON POSITIVE SALES TAX GROWTH, CAN YOU PROJECT AN ASSUMPTION WHEN WE WOULD BE ON BOND AGAIN FOR LIKE A FREEDOM PARK OR A REC CENTER? YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, OR DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN WE MAY BE READY?

>> WELL, I MEAN [OVERLAPPING].

>> I KNOW THAT'S A BIG QUESTION [OVERLAPPING] [BACKGROUND].

>> I THINK WE COULD BOND OUT SOONER THAN THAT IF WE REALLY WANT TO.

I MEAN, I'M HAVING THE PROJECT ADVISOR DO SOME ANALYSIS ON THE CITY AND THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL.

WE HAVE CAPACITY.

I THINK AVLC WOULD HAVE SOME CAPACITY TOO BECAUSE OF THE SALES TAX GROWTH IF WE LOOKED AT IT.

I COULD GET [OVERLAPPING]

>> MEGHAN WANTS TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. [OVERLAPPING]

>> REALLY? [LAUGHTER].

>> I MEAN, CERTAINLY IN THREE YEARS WE'LL HAVE SOME CAPACITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEBT SHEET, THE LAST SHEET.

>> YEAH, IT REALLY DROPS OFF.

IF YOU LOOK AFTER [OVERLAPPING] 2526.

>> IT REALLY DROPS THERE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT EVEN NEXT YEAR, OUR DEBT SERVICE IS GOING DOWN $68,000.

THE YEAR AFTER THAT GOES DOWN TO $20,000, AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO $107,000 IN THREE YEARS.

EVEN NEXT YEAR, IT'S DOWN $68,000.

THAT WOULD FUND SOMETHING IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT.

>> OKAY.

>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION IN A DIFFERENT WAY, CHRIS.

IF YOU WERE WANTING TO DO A THREE MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, WHAT CAPACITY IN THE SYSTEM IN THE PIPELINE WOULD YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO DO THAT WITH THE CURRENT DEBT THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS? IT MAY NOT BE AN EASY ANSWER, CHRIS, SO I'M NOT GOING INTO THE BUS HERE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET YOU TO RESPOND TO A NUMBER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT AND WORK TO.

BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO GET SO OPTIMISTIC THAT THEN PEOPLE GET UPSET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH.

IS THERE A SHORTCUT WAY? THE ONLY SHORTCUT WAY WE CAN DO IS TO LOOK AT THE BOND WE JUST DID.

THE ONE IN 2020 BECAUSE THAT ONE HAS A DEBT SERVICE OF ABOUT 180 A YEAR.

THE FIRST YEAR AFTER THAT, WHAT IS IT, ABOUT 210? IT LOOKS LIKE THREE MILLION WOULD BE ABOUT 210,000 IN SERVICE.

WE COULD PROBABLY DO A MILLION NEXT YEAR AT THAT 68,000 NUMBER.

JUST LOOK AT IT ROUGHLY LIKE THAT.

THE WAY WE DO IT IS WE WOULD TELL OUR [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE A NEED FOR X AMOUNT.

HE WOULD RUN THE NUMBERS AND HE WOULD PUT TOGETHER ANALYSES AND SEE WHAT KIND OF INCOME STREAM WE NEED TO DO IT.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

MAYBE AT SOME POINT [NOISE] IN THIS CONVERSATION, WE GIVE SOME DIRECTION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, CHRIS, IS WE'VE HAD IDEAS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE REC CENTER FIRST PROJECT.

BUT IT HAS THIS ONGOING USE OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE COMING IN, WHICH IS A BIG DRAIN ON SALES TAX BECAUSE WHAT THE SHIRTS OVER $700,000 THAT WE'RE FUNDING.

IT GETS COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN USE ALL THAT MONEY TO JUST DO CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THEN NOW WE'RE DOING HALF OF THE PAYROLL FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENTS.

THERE'S ANOTHER 338.

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IT MAKES IT HARD BECAUSE WE'D LOVE TO DO SOME PROJECTS, BUT HOW MUCH MONEY CAN WE SPEND KNOWING THAT WHEN YOU GO OUT FOR A BOND, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A STREAM OF INCOME AND WE HAVE A GOOD STREAM, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CALCULATE IT.

THAT WOULD BE A HELP FOR US AS WE TRY TO LOOK AT.

SURE. IF I CAN GET SOME CORRECTION ON WHAT YOU WANT ME TO LOOK AT, I CAN READ THAT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.

I THINK WE COULD DO THAT, RIGHT? I THINK SO. I KNOW.

[OVERLAPPING] YEAH. IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

ANOTHER GREAT THING ABOUT THAT IS THE TIMING SO CHRIS CAN PROBABLY GIVE US MORE INSIGHT INTO THIS, BUT IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO KNOW WHEN 2013 FALLS OFF, WE HAVE EXTRA INCOME AND WE HAVE THE ADDITION OF A PLC SALES TAX THAT WE COULD FIND THAT, THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY GO OUT AND GO FORWARD WITH OUR BOND IN OUR FIRST STEP PAYMENT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

RIGHT.

WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THAT YEAR AHEAD OF TIME THEN WE CAN HAVE IT A LITTLE BIT TIMING THING.

SO YOU SEE IT, THE LAST PAYMENT IS 22, 23.

WE CAN ACTUALLY GO IN THAT YEAR AND STILL KEEP THE CYCLE GOING.

IT TAKES QUITE A WHILE ONCE WE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO GET COST ESTIMATES.

IT'S JUST LIKE SOME PARTS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE, SO YEAH, THAT WOULD GIVE ME TIME TO PREPARE FOR A PROJECT.

YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO THE 21, 22 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET AND THEN YOU GET INTO IT.

WE BASICALLY HAVE A YEAR ON THE CLOCK TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT.

THEN WE GO ONTO THE NEXT ONE AND THEN WE HAVE THAT.

THAT IS A GREAT POINT.

[NOISE] WHAT HAPPENS SINCE WE'RE PAYING FOR BONDS, FOR MONEY THAT WE HAVEN'T SPENT, THOSE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED.

BUT INTEREST RATE, ARE WE GETTING ON THOSE? I REALIZED THERE ARE SOME ARBITRAGE RULES.

ABOUT THREE PERCENT INTEREST THAT WE PAY ON BOND.

WELL, OKAY, WE'RE PAYING FOR THE LAKESIDE BONDS THAT WE ISSUED.

BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEGUN ANYTHING YET.

OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT THE FUNDS, RIGHT? WE ISSUED THE BONDS, WE'VE GOT THE 2.9.

WE ARE PAYING FOR THEM NOW, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY TIMING OF THE YEAR, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE 20, NOT OBVIOUSLY MAYBE 2021 HAD BEEN PAID YET.

I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU KNOW THAT THE FIRST PAYMENT HAS BEEN MADE, THE 130? YES. FEBRUARY, 15TH, WE MADE THE FIRST TIME.

OKAY. WE'VE GOT THE MONEY.

IT'S IN THE BANK. HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE MAKING ON IT? ONE PERCENT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? VERY LITTLE MONEY, WE'RE PAYING THREE PERCENT [OVERLAPPING].

CHRIS, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO ISSUE THEM WELL BEFORE BECAUSE THEN WE'RE SITTING HERE, LOOK AT ALL THE MONEY WE GOT, BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM, [INAUDIBLE] WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY.

WELL, THAT'S GOOD. YEAH.

BUT WE KNOW IF WE CAN PUT THIS MONEY TOGETHER AND MEGHAN COMES UP WITH PROJECTS OR WHATEVER THAT WE THINK WE NEED.

[INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER].

I DIDN'T SAY, I READ YOUR CAPITAL.

WE GET THE FREEDOM PARK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

SO WE HAVE A PROJECT.

[OVERLAPPING] BUT IT TAKES US A WHILE TO FORMULATE THAT BY END AND GET ESTIMATES AND THEN BY THEN, WE'LL BE IN THE END WHENEVER YEAR.

JUST GIVE US SOME FORECASTING BASICALLY.

THAT WAY WE COMMITTED THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. THERE'S A COMMITMENT.

ABOUT THE BONDS, THERE IS A NEW BILL THAT'S PASSED IN THE EFFECT OF SEPTEMBER FIRST, THAT WILL REQUIRE CERTAIN PROJECTS.

THEY WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE PUBLIC FOR APPROVAL.

HAVE THAT VOTER APPROVAL LIKE IT I PARKED PROJECTS IS ONE OF THOSE.

THERE'S EXCEPTIONS, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ACCESS TO PARKS IN AMERICA THERE FOR HOURS ON END.

IS THAT RIGHT? THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE AFTER SET TO A PERSON TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. [INAUDIBLE].

THE BILL THAT WAS PASSED DEFINES WHAT CERTIFICATES OBLIGATION CAN BE USED FOR.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE PAST, IF YOU WANTED TO BUILD A NEW CITY HALL HERE NEXT DOOR, THE BONDS CANNOT BE USED FOR THAT.

IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY TO UTILITIES.

IT'S VERY DEFINED ON, YOU CAN'T BUILD A MUNICIPAL COURT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

I GUESS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS, WHAT THE PROVISIONS ARE THAT BUT LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY AND SOME OF THE THINGS MENTIONED IN WHATEVER THE CRITERIA IS,

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DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE CALL FOR A VOTER APPROVAL IF IT'S NOT ON THAT LIST AND IT HAS TO GO OUT FOR VOTER APPROVAL.

THAT PROCESS GETS EXTENDED TO AN ELECTION REALLY FOR THE PUBLIC TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY APPROVE IT OR NOT.

WOW.

DOES THAT PERTAIN TO A CITY OR MUNICIPALITY? WHERE BASICALLY A SEPARATE CORPORATION, IS THAT CORRECT? MAYBE I'LL SEE EVEN THOUGH WE FALL UNDER THE CITY AND IT'S ASSUMED CITY FUNDS, BUT DOES THAT HAVE ANY BEARING ON A, B, AND C, THEY HAVE BETTER-LIVING CORPORATION ISSUING BONDS VERSUS THE CITY OF A MOUNTAIN ISSUING BONDS.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE DETAILS OF THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE YET.

IT SAYS MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES, I'M ASSUMING APPLIES TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT.

JUST DEPENDS ON THE FUNDING MECHANISM AS WELL.

SO IT'S INDEED BOND THAT WE INSTITUTE IN COUNCIL APPROVES.

IS IT BACKED BY THE PROPERTY TAX OR IS IT BACKED BY THE SALES TAX.

IF IT'S BACKED BY THE PROPERTY TAX, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME RULES BECAUSE THE VOTERS AND CITIZENS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE HOOK FOR IT IN THAT CASE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

[INAUDIBLE] BUT JUST CHANGE COMING.

THERE MAY BE JUST SOME RULES TO HOW WE GO GET MONEY IN THE FUTURE.

>> I THINK JOHN, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I WASN'T SURE BECAUSE THE FUNDING MECHANISM WILL BE SALES TAX, IT WON'T BE PROPERTY TAX.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING TO FOLLOW THE SAME RULES.

TYPICALLY, ALL GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS FOLLOW THE SAME RULES.

THE FUNDING IS DIFFERENT, I THINK SO WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE LEGAL PAYMENT ON THAT.

>> OKAY.

>> HEY, EARLIER YOU ASKED IF THERE WAS A QUESTION?

>> YES.

>> OKAY. I NOTICED THAT ON THE REC CENTER.

>> WHAT PAGE?

>> IT'S PAGE 3 OF THE REC CENTERS FINANCIALS.

THE UTILITIES APPEAR TO BE A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS, WHICH MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE TIME IT WASN'T OPERATING.

I'M SORRY. GRANT, BIG PAGE 16.

I SEE IN THE CORNER NOW.

>> YEAH, NOW THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

>> CHRIS, SORRY. HERE WE GO, 16.

BECAUSE WE'RE 75 PERCENT THROUGH THE BUDGET AND WE ONLY HAVE SPENT 48% OF THE DOLLARS.

>> RIGHT ON UTILITIES? CORRECT.

>> IT INTUITIVELY WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT WE WOULD SAY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WORK RUNNING THE LIGHTS AS MUCH, I MEAN SOME PEOPLE WERE THERE BUT WE WEREN'T OPERATING, RIGHT?

>> EXACTLY. BASICALLY, ALL THE EXPENSES ARE ONLY LESS THAN 50 PERCENT, BUT YET, THIS IS MAY SO WE'RE 3/4 THROUGH THE YEAR.

THIS IS 2/3 THROUGH.

ANYTHING BELOW 67% IS UNDER BUDGET.

>> OKAY.

>> YES, EXPENSES ARE DOWN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WEREN'T OPERATING AT FULL CAPACITY.

>> ARE WE LOOKING TO HAVE LESS OF A LOSS OR POTENTIALLY LESS OF A FENDING FOR MAYBE LC FOR THE REC CENTER? WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET, WE WERE BEST GUESS.

I'M LOOKING ON HERE AND IT APPEARS WHAT I'M SEEING NOW.

I ACTUALLY CAN'T TELL IF WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON HERE.

IT JUST COMPARES IT TO BUDGET, RIGHT? ON PAGE 17.

>> IF LATER IN THE AGENDA, WE HAVE PROJECTIONS ON THOSE EXCEL SHEETS THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING FOR EACH OF THESE LINE ITEMS, AND SO WHAT WE HAVE PRELIMINARILY ASSESSED IS I WANT TO SAY A LOSS OF AROUND $50,000.

THAT WAS BEFORE SUMMER OPERATION STARTED.

OUR BUDGET PROCESS AND PROJECTIONS, OUR DEPARTMENT STARTS PRETTY EARLY AND SO WE GOT THOSE NUMBERS AND WE'RE TRYING TO ESTIMATE NUMBERS BASED OFF OF A REGULAR OPERATING OR PRE-COVID YEAR.

BUT WE WERE ALSO VERY CONSERVATIVE.

I CAN TELL YOU, JERRY CAN TELL YOU, WE ARE PACKED AT THE REC CENTER, JUST OUR DAILY.

>> THAT'S WONDERFUL.

>> IT IS FANTASTIC.

ALL THAT TO SAY, WE ARE NO LONGER SURE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A $50,000-DEFICIT THIS YEAR.

AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE MAY BE MUCH LOWER THAN THAT, BUT I CAN'T SAY AT THIS TIME.

>> OKAY.

>> WE CAN GET YOU MORE FARM NUMBERS [OVERLAPPING]

>> MAYBE IT'LL ALL WORK ITSELF OUT.

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OKAY. THE ACTUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, CHRIS AND I THINK IT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SO IT'S NOT JUST YOURS, IT'S WHAT WE GET IS IT ALWAYS JUST COMPARES ACTUAL TO BUDGET.

IT WOULD BE SO HELPFUL TO HAVE AN ESTIMATE HERE.

NOW, I REALIZE THESE ARE REAL.

THESE ARE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND WHAT IS TO ACTUAL BUDGET.

WHEN THIS ENTITY HAS TO PAY OVER $700,000 TO FUND AN ENTITY, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WE'VE SAVED SOME MONEY ON UTILITIES, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

MAYBE THAT NUMBER GOES DOWN.

IS THERE ANY WAY WITHIN HOW YOUR SOFTWARE WORKS TO ADD A COLUMN SO THAT IT'S NOT HAVING TO DO IT TWICE? WHAT DO WE THINK IS GOING TO BE THE PROJECTED TO THE END OF THE YEAR BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR?

>> CORRECT. YOU CAN'T DO THAT AND ENCODE, BUT I COULD DO THAT.

I COULD PULL THE NUMBERS OVER TO EXCEL.

I CAN SAY HERE'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

THAT TIES TO THIS FINANCIALS AND I COULD PROJECT OUT THE REST OF THE YEAR, SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND I COULD START PROVIDING THAT.

>> THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AS WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REC CENTER STAYS UP AND RUNNING AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED HAPPEN, BUT IT'S EASIER IF YOU'VE GOT AN AUTOMATED THING SO IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF HAND WORK FOR PEOPLE TO KEEP TRACK OF IT AND RUN.

WHERE I WAS GOING IS ON MANY OF THE ITEMS, IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO LOOK AT THE ONES THAT HAVE LARGE BALANCES.

TO SAVE 35% ON AN ITEM THAT'S $3,000 IS WORTH OUR CONVERSATION.

BUT IF YOU START SAVING A LOT OF MONEY ON A $90,000 LINE ITEM, THEN YOU SAVE SOME REAL MONEY.

OKAY. THAT WAS CONTINGENCY.

ALSO ON PAGE 16.

OKAY. THE LINE ITEM AND I SHOULD REMEMBER IT, AND MEGHAN MAY NEED TO HELP YOU HERE, WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY IN THE BUDGET THAT GOT UP TO 217.

IS THAT WHEN WE THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE ADDITIONAL DEFICIT?

>> THAT'S THE ACTUAL NUMBER THAT WE SPENT ON THE RE-ROOFING.

THAT'S THE RE-ROOFING PROJECT.

>> OKAY.

>> THAT'S THE YEAR-TO-DATE ACTUAL THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT.

THAT'S THE RE-ROOFING PROJECT.

>> OKAY. THAT'S THE RE-ROOFING.

THE REMAINS, $10,000 THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE SPENT? I'M COMPARING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUDGET AND THE ACTUAL. OR DID IT GO OVER?

>> WELL, THERE WAS A BUDGET ORIGINALLY UP $10,000.

>> GOT YOU. OKAY.

>> THEN THAT $43 IS JUST WHAT WE SPENT THIS MONTH.

>> OKAY.

>> THEN THE YEAR-TO-DATE NUMBERS, $217.

AT THE LAST MEETING, WE APPROVED SOME ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE AND THE ROOFING WAS PART OF THAT.

>> I GOT IT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT AS FAR AS THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF FUND BALANCE.

WE WOULD MANDATE AND PUT IT IN THE RIGHT LOT ON IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

IT'S BETTER TO KEEP IT SEPARATE SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IT IS.

>> I GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> CHARLIE, CAN I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION? YOU PROBABLY KNOW.

REMEMBER HOW WE ALWAYS HAD A CONTINGENCY FOR LITTLE PROJECTS? HOW MUCH IS THAT?

>> THAT WAS IN THE ABLC BUDGET AND I THINK IT'S THE PLUG NUMBER BECAUSE IT'S $54,107.

I THINK IT MADE IT ALL WORK OUT.

>> I THINK WE HAVE 44,000 ABLC AND WE HAD 10 HERE, BUT YET, THAT'S USUALLY HOW YOU GOT SO MUCH INCOME.

YOU GOT BALANCE AT THE END.

>> WELL, I JUST WONDER. LET'S SAY WE NEED TO RAISE SOME FIELDS AT SOCCER COMPLEX THAT ARE FLOODING OR SOMETHING ELSE, THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD COME OUT OF. IT'S CONTINGENCY FOR US.

>> YEAH. JUST LIKE THAT ONE TIME THAT WE DID THE RESTROOM OVER HERE AT MASTERSON?

>> YEAH.

>> I THINK WE MAY HAVE DID A BALL FIELD SCOREBOARD AT ONE TIME, OR SOME OTHER STUFF.

>> SHADE COVERS DOWN AT THE OUTDOOR POOL.

>> YEAH.

>> WE'RE [INAUDIBLE].

>> EXACTLY.

>> I ASKED YOU AND I HAVE NUMBERS, THAT'S WHY.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE HAD.

>> CONTINGENCY IS USUALLY FOR UNKNOWN ITEMS. BUDGET WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS UNKNOWN.

>> OKAY.

>> I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU.

THIS IS THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF CONVERSATION WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] AND OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR WHEN THIS IS ON THE BUDGET.

>> I TRIED TO GET ALL THOSE TRANSFERS IN AND THAT WAS RIGHT.

>> APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANKS.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ITEM NUMBER 2? MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3,

[3. Discussion on Recreation Division updates.]

[00:25:02]

DISCUSSION ON RECREATION, DIVISION UPDATES.

>> GOOD EVENING. HE'S ON THE POOL SIDE.

LCI IS THE VENDOR THAT WE AWARDED THE PROJECT TO.

THEY VISITED THE SITE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH FOR ORDERING OF SUPPLIES.

I LAST CHECKED IN WITH THEM A WEEK AGO.

THEY STOPPED BY THE FACILITY TO DO ANOTHER ASSESSMENT, BUT THEY HAVE ORDERED THE ARMS. THEY'RE WAITING ON THE FABRICATION OF THE ARM TO BE COMPLETED AND DELIVERED.

ONCE THAT IS COMPLETED, THEN I CAN SET A SCHEDULE FOR THE UPDATE OF THE SLIDE.

POOL DOORS. NABCO CAME OUT TO ASSESS THE AREA MID JUNE.

AS OF LAST WEEK, MATERIALS WERE PICKED UP, THE FRAME SO THEY WERE GETTING THE GLASS PUT IN ON THOSE DOORS.

WE'RE HOPING TO START THAT PROJECT OF PUTTING IN THOSE EMERGENCY EXIT DOORS, NOT THIS WEEK, BUT HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK.

JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE TOO, OUR POOL ENTRANCE DOOR NEEDED AN EMERGENCY FIX ON THAT.

WE ARE USING OPERATIONS' BUDGETS TO COVER THOSE COSTS WITH APPROVAL FROM CITY MANAGER AND MEGHAN AS WELL.

THAT IS ANOTHER POOL ENTRANCE DOOR ON THAT ONE.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S OPERATIONS.

THE REC CENTER ROOF WAS COMPLETED AT THE END OF APRIL AND PROVIDED MORE IN TEAM FORMS TO STAFF BEGINNING OF MAY.

WITH THE ABUNDANCE OF RAIN AND WE HAVE FOUND A FEW LEAKS AROUND THE FACILITY, THANKFULLY ONLY THREE.

WE HAVE FOUND A FOURTH ONE, BUT THAT ONE IS DUE TO AC.

WE DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE TODAY, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT ONE'S FIXED.

WE ARE WAITING FOR JAYCO TO SCHEDULE WATER TEST DAY, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE DUCT WORK THAT IS ONE AREA IN FRONT OF THE GYM.

THEN TODAY, WE THOUGHT WE HAD PATCHED IN THE ROOM BUT IT STARTED LEAKING AGAIN TODAY.

WHEN RAIN HAS DIFFERENT DIRECTION, I'VE LEARNED YOU FIND THOSE LEAKS COMING THROUGH.

BUT THEY HAD BEEN GREAT WITH WORKING WITH US AND RESPONDING TO THOSE IMMEDIATELY.

FREEDOM FIREWORKS IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS SATURDAY, JULY 3RD, AND WE'LL BEGIN AT 9:20 AT THE COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH CITY AND COUNTY OFFICIALS TO ENSURE A SAFE AND FUN OF IT.

SKY WONDER IS THE CONTRACTED VENDOR FOR THIS YEAR AND WE WILL BE LIVE STREAMING MUSIC FOR THE SHOW WITH AN FM TRANSMITTER.

WE ACTUALLY GOT THE RADIO STATION TODAY, SO IT'LL BE 87.9 FM THAT WILL BE BROADCASTING.

WE WILL ANNOUNCE THAT ON FACEBOOK, AS WELL AS USING PDS DIGITAL SIGNAGE TO ANNOUNCE THAT AT THE DAY OF ONSITE AT THE COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS.

>> OKAY, FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE OVER 60.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET AN FM STATION ON YOUR PHONE.

>> ON YOUR CAR, WHILE YOU'RE IN YOUR CAR ON SITE.

>> WE HAVE TO BE IN OUR CAR?

>> YES.

>> OKAY. I WAS [OVERLAPPING].

>> UNLESS YOU HAVE AN APP, POSSIBLY LIKE A RADIO STATION APP, I'M PRETTY SURE THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

>> OKAY.

>> AS LONG AS YOU CAN RECEIVE 87.9, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO REACH THAT IF YOU ARE NOT SURE OF THE DISTANCE OF THE RATE TRANSMITTER.

>> SEE I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE ME THE KEY [LAUGHTER] TO USING MY PHONE FOR RADIO SO, OKAY.

>> EVENTS AND PROGRAMS. OUR FOURTH QUARTER REGISTRATION OPEN AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE.

WE HAD REGISTRATION ITEMS FOR OUR SENIOR WELCOME BACK PARTY ALONG WITH TWO TRIPS.

WE HAVE MAXED OUT ON ALL OF OUR SENIOR ITEMS, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

[BACKGROUND] OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAD, ARE LITTLE KICKERS, WHICH IS A SOCCER PROGRAM FOR CHILDREN, PAINTING WITH JANET, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PLANNING A BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT FOR THE MIDDLE OF JULY.

JULY IS ALSO NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION EVENTS PLANS SUCH AS MOVIE IN THE PARK AT FREEDOM PARK ON JULY 15TH, AND HOME RUN DERBY ON JULY 31ST. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE HOME RUN DERBY.

>> REALLY AWESOME.

>> THAT LITTLE LEAGUE HAS BEEN HELPING.

>> YES, LITTLE LEAGUE IS VERY MUCH HELPING US WITH THAT.

I BELIEVE GIRLS SOFTBALL IS HELPING US AS WELL, SO WE'RE TEAMING UP TOGETHER.

>> HOW DID THE SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT DO?

>> EXCELLENT.

>> THAT HAD TO BEEN TURNED OFF? [BACKGROUND]

>> YES.

>> I DIDN'T GO OUT THERE BECAUSE I HEARD IT WAS PACKED, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS TRUE.

>> JOHN CAN PROBABLY SPEAK BETTER THAN ANY OF US, HIS DAUGHTER WAS PLAYING.

BUT YES, IT WAS PACKED.

WE HAD A LOT OF TEAMS COME OUT FOR OPENING CEREMONY.

THERE ARE SOME TEAMS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT FOR OPENING CEREMONIES, BUT WE RECEIVED GREAT APPLAUD FROM AGSA FOR ALL THE HELP THAT OUR PARKS STAFFED IN PREPARATION FOR THE FIELDS AND ALSO COORDINATION WITH STAFF.

THEN ALSO THE DISTRICT 27 REP HAS ALREADY

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INFORMED SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR THAT THEY PLAN TO COME BACK NEXT YEAR. WE'RE EXCITED.

>> HOW MANY TEAMS WERE COMPETING?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK BACK.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD A LOSS.

[OVERLAPPING].

>> GALVESTON, MONTGOMERY, SPLENDOUR.

>> SPLENDOUR, YEAH. I REMEMBER SPLENDOUR THERE.

>> WOODLANDS, DEER PARK.

I KNOW BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE TEAMS BEAT US.

[LAUGHTER] I MEAN, THERE WERE A LOT OF TEAMS REPRESENTED FROM ALL OVER AND THEY STAYED IN OUR HOTELS.

[BACKGROUND] I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ONE GUY FROM ORANGE, TEXAS, ONE OF THE TEAMS FROM ORANGE, AND HE SAID, "WE ADDED THE DIRTY SOUTH," AND HE SAID THAT WAS SOME OF THE BEST FRIES EVER HAD.

THEY WERE TO GO BACK FOR LUNCH.

THEY SAID, "THIS IS GREAT.

WE'RE EXCITED WE'LL BE COMING BACK." ANGLETON REALLY WAS ON GREAT DISPLAY AND REALLY SHOWED WHAT KIND OF HEART WE HAVE.

I KNOW THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE SKEPTICAL OF CLOSING DOWN THE PARK, BUT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF ONE DAY IN THE SUMMER WHEN HARDLY ANYBODY GOES OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HEAT.

THE SALES TAX DOLLARS ARE GENERATED AND THE ABILITY TO SHOWCASE OUR CITY ON TEXAS SCALE HELPS.

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE SALES TAX NUMBERS LOOK LIKE IN TWO MONTHS.

[OVERLAPPING] A LOT OF PLACES WERE.

>> THE GREAT THING WAS, IT GAVE OUR GIRLS THAT PLAY SOFTBALL A CHANCE TO COMPETE AGAINST OTHER TEAMS RIGHT HERE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAD TWO TEAMS REPRESENTED THERE, AND THE CITY REALLY CAME THROUGH, AND THE AGSA I HAVE TO SAY, DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

THE TWO WORKED TOGETHER, STEWART DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT AS WELL.

THOSE FIELDS WERE PRISTINE AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BEST I'VE SEEN THOSE FIELDS LOOK BEFORE A GAME.

>> THE WEATHER COOPERATED.

>> YEAH IT HELD OUT. WE HAD LOTS OF SHADE UNDER THE TREES.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE GREAT COMPLIMENTS WE RECEIVED WAS, ITS NICE TO COME TO A PARK AND BE ABLE TO PUT OUR CAMPS, BECAUSE THEY BRING THEIR CANOPIES AND THEY GO GET UP UNDERNEATH THE SHADE STRUCTURE OR WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING.

OUT THERE, THEY WERE LIKE, "I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE PACKED OUR CANOPIES BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS TREE COVERAGE. I LOVED IT.

>> I CAN SAY, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE AT THE FARMERS MARKET TOO OVER THERE EARLY, I GUESS, HAVE BEEN JUST BIDDING THEIR TIME ON THEIR WAY THERE.

NORMALLY, FAMILIES AREN'T SO EARLY, THEY COME LATER.

IT WAS LIKE, "OH, YEAH. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE."

>> JERRY, HAVE YOU STARTED LOOKING AT PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES FOR THE BIG, LIKE SAAD PARK.

THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH THINGS YOU CAN DO ON THAT WATER.

>> YES, DEFINITELY. WE HAVE STARTED OUR JUNIOR ANGLER PROGRAM, WHICH I AND ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER ADMINISTERED, WHICH WAS A FREE PROGRAM.

WE TAUGHT EIGHT CHILDREN BEGINNING LESSONS OF FISHING, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM TO UTILIZE LAKESIDE PARK.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WORKING WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY PARKS AS WELL.

MIKE MULLENWEG IS THEIR EVENTS COORDINATOR.

I WANT TO MEET WITH HIM TO TALK ABOUT OTHER OUTDOOR PROGRAMS, MASTER NATURALISTS WE LIKE TO WORK WITH AS WELL.

SO YES, WE'RE DEFINITELY WORKING WITH THAT AS WELL.

IN OUR LAST STAFF MEETING.

WE EVEN LOOKED AT THE FREEDOM MASTER PLAN OF THE IDEAS, AND I WAS LIKE, "GET YOUR JUICES SPINNING ON THAT ONE," BECAUSE THEY HAD SOME REALLY GREAT LIGHT TRAIL WORKS OUT THERE.

THE SPLASH PAD, THE AMPHITHEATER PROPOSAL IF THAT WERE TO GO THROUGH.

YES, WE'RE DEFINITELY WORKING ON THOSE IDEAS.

>> ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO ADD TO THAT IS, JERRY AND I HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE TPW CO-OP GRANT, WHICH IS A RECREATIONAL BASED GRANT ON THINGS LIKE THAT.

FOR INSTANCE, IF WE DON'T HAVE EXISTING MATERIALS FOR ANGLER EDUCATION PROGRAM, OR WE NEED KAYAKS, OR PADDLES, OR SAFETY VESTS, OR EVEN MOUNTAIN BIKES SO THAT WE CAN DO A BIKE SAFETY PROGRAM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER GOING OUT FOR PROGRAMMING.

THOSE ARE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING INTO, ARCHERY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM?

>> WHAT MOVIE ARE YOU GOING TO SHOW ON?[BACKGROUND]

>> WHERE IS THAT GOING TO BE AT?

>> FREEDOM PARK.

>> FREEDOM PARK. OKAY. UNFORTUNATELY, EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU HAVE HAD THE MOVIE THING, I'M GOING OUT OF TOWN, BUT BOYD WILL BE HERE, MAYBE IF HE'S NOT WORKING. [BACKGROUND]

>> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM NUMBER 3?

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MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4,

[4. Discussion on Parks Division updates.]

DISCUSSION ON PARKS DIVISION UPDATES.

>> GOOD EVENING. APPRECIATE THE COMPLIMENT, JOHN.

BUT I CAME TO GIVE ALL THE CREDIT TO THE CREWS.

THEY TAKE PRIDE IN THE PARKS.

THEY GIVE ME SUGGESTS, "HEY, WE CAN DO THIS, WE CAN DO THAT." I SAY, "HEY, GO DO IT." GIVE THEM A LOT OF CREDIT.

ALSO, ANGLETON GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION.

THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB GETTING THE FIELD READY, WITH ALL THE RAIN THAT WE'VE HAD AND EVERYTHING.

THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN THAT.

DICKEY PARK, WE INSTALLED ALL THE STORY WALL DISPLAYS WHICH WAS 20 OF THEM.

WE GOT THAT COMPLETED THIS WEEK.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING THE NEW VOLLEYBALL COURT GOING.

BUT WITH THE RAIN, WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THAT FOR A MONTH OR SO.

PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO HELP US, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE GRADE ALL OUT THERE TO GET GOING AND GET THE PIT DUG, SO WE CAN GET TO FILL THE SANDS.

THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US OUT THERE.

WE'VE BEEN SWAPPING OUT, HELPING THEM OUT DOING SOME THINGS, SO THEY OFFERED TO HELP US WITH THAT.

WE'VE REMOVED THE SMALLER PLAYGROUND, THE ONE TOWARD CLOSER TO 35.

WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE BIGGER ONE AS WE GET CLOSER.

PUT A NEW PLAYGROUND AND GET IT INSTALLED.

WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT OUT YET.

WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEM WITHOUT A PLAYGROUND.

THE VETERANS PARK CREWS HELPED SET UP FOR FLAG DAY.

WE GOT COMPLIMENTS FROM THE CHAIN REEF FOR HELPING OUT WITH THEM.

FREEDOM PARK, WE INSTALLED TWO CHANGING STATIONS IN THE REST ROOMS, THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE.

WE ACCOMMODATED WITH THAT.

WE PLAN ON DOING THE SAME THING AT SOCCER IN [INAUDIBLE].

>> THAT'S GREAT.

>> WE NEVER THINK OF THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S LIKE, "WHY DON'T WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT?" BUT WE'LL GET THAT FIXED UP.

THE WEST PARK.

FRIDAY, WE COMPLETED PULLING ALL THE POLES AND REMOVING ALL THE CONCRETE SLAB OUT THERE.

THE ONLY THING LEFT IS FOR STAFF TO GET OUT THERE AND GET THE POLES OUT OF THE FIELD.

WE'RE GOING TO STACK THEM UP IN THE PARKING LOT.

HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS IF THEY NEED ANY TYPE OF COMMUNITY POLES FOR FENCE POST OR POLE BARN, IF THEY HAVE ANY USE FOR THEM.

THERE WERE SOME THAT I'M SURPRISED THAT WERE STILL STANDING, BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT TO PULL THEM, THEY BASICALLY FELL OVER IN THE CENTER FROM RIGHT.

IT'S A GOOD THING WE'VE GOT THOSE ON THE GROUND BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN DEFINITELY A HAZARD.

I GUESS YOU NOTICED THE POOL IS PRETTY MUCH GONE.

THEY'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 90 PERCENT COMPLETE.

THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE FINISHED UP THE DIRT WORK TODAY IF NOT FOR THE RAIN.

THEY STILL HAVE TO REMOVE THE FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER.

BUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE IS DIRT FILLED UP.

>> MOST OF ANGLETON KNEW THAT THAT POOL WAS GONE ONCE THEY GOT POSTS ON TALK OF ANGLETON.

>> I WAS READING ALL THE COMMENTS.

WHICH HAS A LOT OF HISTORY HICCUP.

THAT'S WHY I TAKE SWIMMING LESSONS.

>> YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF YEARS TO SELL THAT POOL.

>> ALMOST DROWNED A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THAT POOL.

[LAUGHTER] THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

WE'RE HITTING OUR [INAUDIBLE] AND CYCLES TRYING TO STAY UP WITH THAT.

RAIN GETS US BEHIND, BUT [INAUDIBLE] TAKES ABOUT A WEEK TO GET CAUGHT BACK UP. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> DO YOU EVER GO OUT TO, I'M SURE YOU DO, BUT AT THE SOCCER COMPLEX WHEN IT'S GOT A LOT OF WATER ON IT, AND SEE IF THE DRAINAGE ISSUE HAS TO DO WITH RESTRICTION IN THE DITCH, OR IS IT JUST THE ELEVATION PROBLEM?

>> WELL, I WENT OUT THERE THE LAST RAIN WE HAD, TOOK SOME PICTURES.

I THINK I MENTIONED IT TO THE PARKS BOARD MEETING, THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER, IT WAS LIKE A LAKE.

IT DRAINS EAST DOWN THAT DITCH, IT GOES OUT TOWARD THE HIGHWAY.

IT JUST DO THE CO-WORK SIZE MAYBE, YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, BUT IT WAS QUITE A BIT OF WATER.

>> IT WAS FLOWING GOOD THOUGH?

>> YEAH. IT WAS FLOWING.

I'LL SEND YOU SOME PICTURES IF YOU WANT.

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>> I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS A RESTRICTION.

MAYBE THIS IS THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.

I KNOW IT WAS THAT WAY ORIGINALLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE GRADER THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS, OR IF THERE WAS SOME RESTRICTION, WHETHER LIKES THAT COVER SIZE, OR THE DITCH IS SLOUGHED OFF, IF THERE SUDDENLY COULD OPEN UP A BIT.

>> ACTUALLY, THE DITCH IS PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

THE CULVERTS WERE OPENED THE OTHER NIGHT, DIDN'T SHOW ANY SIGNS OF RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS SEDIMENT, ANOMALY THING.

THEY'RE PRETTY CLEAN.

YOU'RE TRYING TO DRAIN A BIG COMPLEX THROUGH POSSIBLY ONE DITCH THAT'S GOT SMALL CULVERTS IN IT.

ESPECIALLY THAT FIRST, YOU KNOW WHERE THE DUMPSTER IS? THAT CROSSING RIGHT THERE AT THAT GATE, THAT CULVERT UNDERNEATH THERE.

I THINK THAT'S A BIG CULVERT OF KEEPING THAT WATER OUT THERE TOO.

CAN YOU GO UP BIGGER SIZE CULVERT WITH THE SIZE OF THE DITCH YOU HAVE?

>> I DO KNOW THAT THE SOCCER ASSOCIATION DID REACH OUT TO ME RECENTLY.

THEY WANT TO HOST A TOURNAMENT AGAIN, AND SO THEY REALLY NEED THEIR DAY.

THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE FIELDS.

IN ORDER TO GET THE TOURNAMENT, THEY'RE HOPING THAT THEY CAN FIND SOME WAY OF GETTING THE CITY, OR ABLC, OR SOMEBODY CAN HELP FIX AT LEAST ONE FIELD SO THEY CAN GET THEIR TOURNAMENT.

>> WHEN YOU SAY FIX, DOES IT MEAN GRADE IT OFF AND MAKE IT THAT MASS CROWNING THING?

>> I THINK YOU SAID ABOUT $8,000 OF FIELD IS WHAT SOMEBODY ESTIMATED?

>> THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW SINCE EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP.

I THINK I BUDGETED 10,000 FOR A FIELD, ONCE A YEAR.

PLUS THAT INCLUDES, YOU HAVE AN ARRANGED IRRIGATION SYSTEM WHICH SHOULDN'T BE THAT BIG, ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE COULD DO OUR-SELF.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CONTRACT IT OUT.

>> BECAUSE I KNOW THEIR TOURNAMENTS WOULD BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE TOWN TOO, I GUESS.

>> I THINK WAS THE ONE AT HALLOWEEN?

>> THE HALLOWEEN SHOOT OUT.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN HERE.

BEFORE COVID, IT WAS CANCELED BECAUSE OF RAIN OR SOMETHING.

>> EVERY TIME [INAUDIBLE].

AT LEAST THE LAST TWO YEARS BEFORE COVID.

>> OR THEY JUST CAN HOLD IT IN AUGUST, WHERE IT DOESN'T RAIN. [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE].

>> IT'S BECAUSE I THINK IN FINANCIALS TERMS, SO MANY OF THESE THINGS WOULD ACTUALLY BE HELPFUL IS A BUDGET WORKSHOP TO HAVE ALL THE IDEAS, ALL THE WANTS ON A TABLE, SO THAT THEN YOU CAN HAVE THEM ALL, SQUISH THEM OUT BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY VALUABLE, "HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO." THESE THINGS HAPPEN SO THAT THE PARENT-KID GROUPS THAT ARE THE PRIMARY USERS OF SO MANY OF THESE PARKS, IT'S BETTER TO ASK THEM, "WHAT'S YOUR FIRST WANT?" I THINK MOST OF THEM UNDERSTAND THEY CAN'T HAVE 10 WANTS.

BUT HAVING A WORKSHOP SO THAT WE CAN FACE IT, FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE, IS A GREAT THING.

SOMETIMES THE SQUEAKY WHEEL IS THE ONLY ONE THAT GETS GREASED.

>> PARKS BOARD HAD THE DIFFERENT GROUPS COMMON, THE SOCCER, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS DRAINAGE.

THE LITTLE LEAGUE, THEY HAD A FEW THINGS, A LARGER FIELD THEY WOULD LIKE AND THEN SOME SHADE.

BUT I THINK THE FIELD ISSUE TO ME AT THE SOCCER COMPLEX TRUMPS SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, SO IT DOES AFFECT THEIR USE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW NOTHING JOHN SAID THE SAME THING, HOW THE GRASS OF THE FIELDS LOOK LIKE IT'S A COMPARISON TO ANY FIELD IN THE STATE BASICALLY, AND THE QUALITY OF THE TURF.

THEY WILL BE STARTING OVER ON SOME OF THAT WHEN WE COVER WITH DIRT.

BUT THEY DO SUCH A GOOD JOB, I'M SURE THEY'LL GET IT BACK IN PLACE.

BUT THAT ONE CONCERNS ME THE MOST IS BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THEM WHEN WE GET IN THESE WET CYCLES QUITE A BIT.

>> YEAH.

ON THAT NOTE TOO, I'LL ALSO ADD THAT, WE HAVE BEGAN PRICING OUT.

IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, SOME OF THEIR REQUESTS AND PROBABLE CAUSE. YOU'LL SEE THAT.

WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK THOSE ASSOCIATIONS TO PRIORITIZE EACH OF THOSE LISTS FOR US.

THEN WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH THE ANGLETON REC CENTER, DIFFERENT ISSUES WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM,

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AND JUST OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS WHOLLY DEPARTMENTALLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN, WHICH YOU'LL SEE AS A BUDGET REQUEST FOR AVLC.

I MEAN, WE HAVE NO SHORTAGE OF PARK REQUESTS. [LAUGHTER]

>> WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

>> YOU'LL SEE THAT LISTED AND WE JUST NEED YOUR HELP AND DIRECTION ON PRIORITIZING EACH OF THOSE.

>> I THINK I SAW THAT, BUT I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE CITYWIDE TOO.

[OVERLAPPING] IF YOU THINK THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT, IT IS.

YEAH. CLEARLY, IT IS.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT I HAVE NO IMPACT ON THAT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM NUMBER 4? MOVING ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION

[5. Discussion on the Parks & Recreation Department personnel.]

ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL.

>> YES. WE HAVE SOME UPDATES FOR YOU-ALL REGARDING DEPARTMENTAL PERSONNEL.

WE HAVE DONE SOME REORGANIZATION DUE TO STAFFING NEEDS AND VACANCIES THAT WE'VE HAD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

OUR VACANCIES ALLOWED US TO JUST PAUSE AND REALLY ASSESS WHAT OUR NEEDS WERE DEPARTMENTALLY BOTH ON THE RIDEAWAY PARKS AND ALSO THE ANGLETON RECREATIONS CENTER SIGN.

WE WERE PRESENTED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING BY THE CITY MANAGER.

WE ARE ASKED, ''HEY, IF YOU WERE GIVEN THIS, HOW WOULD YOU PROCEED?'' STAFF GOT TO WORK AND STARTED LAYING OUT SOME PLANS FOR EACH OF OUR DIVISIONS.

THOSE PLANS INCLUDE, WELL, I SHOULD FIRST SAY THAT THE VACANCIES THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO ARE THE REFEREES AND RECREATION SPECIALIST SENIOR PROGRAMS, AND THEN THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

DURING THOSE VACANCIES, OUR LEADERSHIP GROUP ASSESSED OUR NEEDS AND IDENTIFIED THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP US WOULD BE TO MOVE.

IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER FROM LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET, WE FUNDED, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY WE, YOU PARTIALLY DID, BUT OUT OF PARKS, PARKS FUNDED 75 PERCENT OF A CUSTODIAN, 25 PERCENT OF THAT CUSTODIAN WAS FUNDED OUT OF AVLC.

OUR RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE OF JUST CONTINUITY, AND DIRECTION, AND COLLABORATION AMONG THE GROUP WAS THAT PERSON WOULD BE BETTER SERVED IF IT CAME COMPLETELY OUT OF PARKS AND WAS JUST A PARK CUSTODIAN THAT HAD ADDITIONAL TASKS AT THE RECREATION CENTER ON THE WEEKEND BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT THAT ENTITY DOES IS WHEN WE HAVE PAVILION RENTALS, THEY'RE OUT PICKING UP TRASH ON THE WEEKENDS AT EACH OF OUR PARKS, AND THEY'RE ALSO IN BETWEEN THOSE PAVILION RENTALS.

THEY'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE LESSEE HAS ACTUALLY CLEANED UP THEIR SPACE, THEY GET THEIR DEPOSIT BACK.

IF THEY HAVEN'T, THEY TAKE NOTE AND DOCUMENT THAT PROPERLY.

THEY REALLY SPENT A LOT OF THEIR TIME ON THE WEEKEND IN THE PARK SYSTEM AND NOT NECESSARILY AT THE RECREATION CENTER.

ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE ASSESSED WAS TO ELIMINATE THE FULL-TIME REC SPECIALIST FOR SENIOR PROGRAMS AND HIRE PERMANENT PART-TIME REC ASSISTANT FOR SENIOR PROGRAMS TO WORK 30 HOURS PER WEEK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM ABOUT 8:00-2:00 TO DEVELOP SENIOR PROGRAM.

OUR CURRENT SCHEDULE, WHILE WE CAN EXPAND SENIOR PROGRAMS, WE FELT THAT IT COULD BE BETTER SERVED IN A PERMANENT PART-TIME POSITION.

REALLY, JUST STANDARDIZE WHAT THAT SENIOR PROGRAM NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE, SO THAT IT'S CONSISTENT FOR SENIORS AND THAT WE CAN EXPAND PROGRAMMING SPECIFICALLY DURING THOSE HOURS.

THEN THE ADDITIONAL TIMES WHERE WE GO ON TRIPS OR LUNCH, BRUNCH, OUTINGS, WE CONTRACT A BUS DRIVER OUT RATHER THAN HAVING SOMEONE ON STAFF FILL THAT ROLE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALSO BUDGETED, IS A CONTRACTED BUS DRIVER.

AS WE CHANGED THIS INDIVIDUAL FROM A REC SPECIALIST SENIOR PROGRAMS TO A REC ASSISTANT, THAT CHANGED THEIR CLASSIFICATION WITHIN OUR COMMON CLASS, SO THAT IS A DIFFERENT PAY GRADE.

IT'S ACTUALLY A LOWER PAY GRADE, SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED HIRING A FULL-TIME REC ASSISTANT, ALSO A LOWER PAY GRADE.

BUT WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE REALLY NEEDED SOME CONTINUITY AT THE FRONT DESK.

THAT IS THE FIRST SPACE THAT OUR CUSTOMERS SEE, SO WE NEED OUR MESSAGING TO BE CLEAR, CONCISE, AND CONSISTENT EVERY TIME WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS COME IN.

THAT INDIVIDUAL IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, TYPICALLY, IN THE EVENINGS.

WE HAVE A PRETTY CONSISTENT PART-TIME BASE IN OUR EARLY MORNING HOUR.

YOU-ALL, IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE, PROBABLY KNOW HER BY NAME, BUT BRENDA FAGAN SERVES US MOST MORNINGS, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PRETTY STANDARD PART-TIME GROUP AT OUR MID-MORNING HOURS AS WELL.

REALLY, THE FULL-TIME ROLE IS OUR NOON TO 9:00 CLOSURE HOURS, AND SERVES AS A SUPERVISOR ON DUTY.

AGAIN, JUST ALLOWS FOR CONSISTENT MESSAGING THROUGHOUT THE EVENING WHEN WE HAVE SOME PEAK PARTICIPATION AT THE CENTER.

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WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT ELIMINATING THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND HIRING ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, BUDGETED OUT OF PARK'S PERSONNEL.

WITH THE SAVINGS THAT WE HAD REALIZED, IN ADDITION TO THE FUNDS THAT WERE OFFERED TO THE DEPARTMENT, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND WITH THE REMAINING MONTHS THAT WE HAD LEFT IN THE BUDGET AND THE SAVINGS THAT WE HAD FROM THIS POSITION BEING VACANT.

THOSE WERE THE PROPOSED AND ACCEPTED CHANGES.

NEXT YEAR, WE'VE PROPOSED TO MAINTAIN THOSE CHANGES, AND ALSO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL PARK'S CREW REMEMBER WHEN LAKE SITE OPENS, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT BEING AROUND JULY 1ST.

THEN ALSO HIRING ONE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE CREW LEADER, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PAY GRADE, WHEN LAKE SITE OPENS.

WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT AGAIN, JULY 1ST, AS OUR OPEN DATE.

I MENTIONED WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE PROPOSED CHANGES.

THEY WERE ALL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE BUDGET THAT WE HAD OUTLINED FOR AVLC SUPPORT AND ALSO OUR GENERAL REVENUE FROM THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, SO WE ARE NOT OVER BUDGET AS FAR AS THAT GOES IN THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, NOR ARE WE OVER BUDGET IN PARKS PERSONNEL.

WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE ALL OF THOSE CHANGES WITH THE EXISTING BUDGET.

OF COURSE, THE ADDITION FOR OR WHAT WILL BE THE ADDITION NEXT YEAR, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THOSE FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND, BUT WE WILL NEED THEM NEXT YEAR FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

>> HOW MUCH IS THAT?

>> I'M SORRY?

>> HOW MUCH IS THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND?

>> IT'S 70,000.

>> TO DATE, STAFF HAS SUCCESSFULLY ON-BOARDED THE FULL-TIME RECREATION ASSISTANT FRONT DESK POSITION, THE RECREATION ASSISTANT SENIOR PROGRAMS. WE HAD SOME INTERNAL MOVEMENT IN ONE OF OUR POSITIONS.

WE HAD A VACANCY FOR THE FACILITY MANAGER, AS WELL HERE, RECENTLY WE PROMOTED WITHIN.

COURTNEY LANDERS IS NOW OUR FACILITY MANAGER.

WE HAVE EXTENDED AN OFFER FOR HER POSITION, WHICH WAS THE RECREATION SPECIALIST FOR EVENTS AND MARKETING.

WHAT ELSE AM I MISSING? WE HAVE EXTENDED AND AN INDIVIDUAL HAS ACCEPTED FOR THE ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR AS WELL.

THE ASSISTANT AQUATIC PRODUCTS COORDINATOR, THAT'S A VACANCY THAT WE HAVE.

IT WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE NEW PERSONNEL CHANGES OR REORGANIZATION. YES, MA'AM.

>> THIS ONE, MAYBE TO CHRIS.

LAST YEAR WHEN I MET WITH THE TWO OF YOU AND SUSIE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT [NOISE] THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF SALARIES IN THE REC CENTER THAT ENDS UP BEING A FUNDING FOR US BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, AND I REALIZE IT WILL PROBABLY NEVER ACTUALLY BREAK-EVEN, I KNOW THAT, BUT USING 700,000 PLUS TO FUND IT, CHRIS, YOU HAD SUGGESTED THAT FLOATING A BALLOON ABOUT THE PERSONNEL PART OF THAT COMING OUT OF AVLC, ANYTHING HAPPENED ON THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL PEOPLE?

>> SURE. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] YOU'LL SEE IN ONE OF OUR LATER ITEMS WE HAVE PROPOSED TO BRING SALARIES DOWN RATHER THAN 50 PERCENT BEING FUNDED BY AVLC, 25 PERCENT BEING FUNDED BY AVLC OF PARKS PERSONNEL.

WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS LOWERING THAT.

I WILL SAY AFTER DIRECTION PROVIDED BY CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY OF NEW REVENUE BUDGET ARE OUR HOPE TO PROCEED THAT WAY AND MAYBE IMPACTED.

>> MONEY IS GOT TO COME FROM SOMEPLACE.

BUT I WAS MORE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN WE CHATTED, YEAH, WAS IT JULY, AUGUST LAST YEAR.

IT WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MANAGE THIS.

THE IDEA WAS DEALING EXACTLY WITH THE PERSONNEL ISSUE AT THE REC CENTER, THAT AVLC HAS BEEN FUNDING THAT.

THE INTENT INITIALLY WAS THAT WE HAVE THESE NEW FUNDS THAT IDEALLY ARE A CAPITAL USE FOR BUILDING THINGS,

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FOR APPROVING NEW THINGS AND DOING IT THAT WAY.

NOBODY EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THOSE FUNDS WOULD ACTUALLY BE USED FOR OPERATIONS.

CHRIS, WE WERE BRAINSTORMING.

THE ONLY CHANCE THAT I'VE HAD TO BRING IT UP IN A, I DIDN'T MEAN TO TORPEDO YOU HERE, BUT I THOUGHT GOOD TIME JUST TO SAY IS ANY CHANCE THAT CAN GO ANYWHERE.

>> WELL, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO YOU ALL IN THE CITY COUNCIL.

I THINK WE TARGETED WAS 250,000 TRANSFER? BUT.

>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PARKS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ABLC EMPLOYEES.

I'M SORRY. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REC CENTER.

THAT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE MAKING SOME MOVE, THERE'S A RECOGNITION THAT IF WE SPEND ALL OF ABLC'S MONEY FOR OPERATION, THEN THERE'S REALLY NOT ANY MONEY TO SPEND ON PROJECTS.

BUT RECALL, WE WERE DEALING WITH THE FACT THAT WE WERE AT THE TIME IT WAS $900,000 THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND FOR THE REC CENTER.

A LOT OF PIECES OF THAT, WERE PERSONNEL THAT ENDED UP BEING USED TO CLEAN EVERYTHING ELSE IN TOWN.

YOU HAD SAID, ''WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA OF TRYING TO TAKE PERSONNEL OUT OF WHAT ABLC PAYS FOR, SPECIFICALLY THE REC.''

>> THAT'S WHAT OUR INTENT WAS, IT TO TAKE AWAY 25 PERCENT OF THAT COST, PUT IT BACK IN GENERAL FUND, PAID FOR BY THE CITY, WHATEVER DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IS, WHETHER IT'S 25 PERCENT OR 50 OR 10 OR WHATEVER, THAT'S MONEY THAT ABLC THEN CAN SPEND ON PROJECTS.

>> I'M SORRY, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE, I THOUGHT WE HAD MOVED BACK TO THE PARKS PEOPLE BECAUSE WE WERE DOING A PERCENTAGE OF THE PARKS. I GOT IT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR BOTH REDUCE THE PARKS STUFF BUT THEN ALSO TAKE A POTENTIALLY FLOATING THE IDEA OF MAYBE TAKING A PERCENTAGE OF THE PERSONNEL COST OUT OF THE REC CENTER AND MOVING IT TO GENERAL FUND.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I GET THAT. I DO.

>> THEY DID, WHAT YOU ASKED THEM TO DO THEN. THEY DID.

>> IN ALL FAIRNESS, I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THAT CHRIS WAS BEING CREATIVE.

WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION.

>> THE FAULT WASN'T TRYING TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE, BUT PHASING AND OVER COUPLE YEARS SO THAT YOU CAN PICK A NUMBER AND PICK 10 PERCENT AND YOU CAN RAISE IT IN FIVE-YEARS, AND YOU GET THAT 15 AND DO IT OVER ABOUT THREE YEARS.

BUT AGAIN, TO THAT CONVERSATION AND I PHILOSOPHICALLY AGREE WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S PARKS FOLKS THEN GENERAL FUND SHOULD PAY FOR THAT.

YOUR ALL'S ABLC SHOULD BE SPENDING ON CAPITAL PROJECTS LIKE FREEDOM PARK OR WALLS PARK.

>> NEW PAVILION.

>> WHATEVER YOUR CHOICE.

>> OKAY. GOT IT.

>> IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK. I COULD PROBABLY TALK ON THE SIGN FOR ANOTHER 15 MINUTES, BUT I'LL CONFIRM.

I AGREE WITH YOU THAT ABLC SHOULD BE WORKING ON CAPITAL PROJECTS. THAT'S GREAT.

HOWEVER, IF WE DO THAT, WE IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH PROPERTY TAXES WILL HAVE TO GO UP TO SUPPORT.

BECAUSE WE ARE IMPROVING OUR PARKS TO AN EXTENT THAT WE'RE OUTPACING THE GROWTH FROM THE CITY SIDES, FROM TAX BASE.

WHEN YOU GET TO 2,000 MORE HOMES ON THE GROUND, I AGREE THAT I THINK THE NEW PROPERTY VALUES THAT YOU HAVE AT A TAX-BASE WILL HELP TO OFFSET THAT.

BUT I THINK WE'RE ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO EARLY ON THAT AND I THINK WE'LL GET THERE, BUT I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AWAY FROM SEEING THE ADDED REVENUE TO WHERE THE GENERAL FUND CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.

BECAUSE, WE BUILT THE REC CENTER, WE'VE ADDED ALL THIS ADDITIONAL PARKS STUFF, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN LAKESIDE, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE.

ALL BECAUSE WE'VE FUNDED ALL THESE PROJECTS FOR ABLC AND NOW THE MAINTENANCE OPERATION PORTION HAS TO BE OFF.

>> BUT I THINK WE ALWAYS KNEW WHEN WE CREATE A PROJECT THAT PUTS A BURDEN ON THE GENERAL FUNDS OR ON THE STAFF, THE REC CENTER IT'S GOT A LOT OF STAFF.

IT'S GOT A LOT OF MAGNETS, ROOFING, AIR CONDITIONING, EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT, WHICH WHEN WE LOOKED AT LAKESIDE PARK, WE LOOK AT ANY OTHER PROJECTS WE KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF OUR MIND, WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO CONSUME HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR MAINTENANCE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT PERSONNEL, BUT WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT.

I THINK WHEN THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT THIS IDEA TO US, WE WERE SO USED TO JUST HAVING OUR MONEY ONLY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

BUT I THINK WE AGREE THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY ON THIS BOARD TO

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MAINTAIN THOSE PROJECTS AND ULTIMATELY THE ABLC WE'RE HERE TO BENEFIT THE CITY, JUST LIKE THE UR ED COUNCIL.

IF THERE'S A TIME THAT COMES THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO KEEP THE REC CENTER RUNNING, WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO KEEP IT MAINTAINED.

WE'RE ALSO WATCHING LAKESIDE PARK, IF THERE WAS A COMMENT MAKING AIR CONDITIONED FACILITY WITH HAVING PARTIES AND STUFF AND WE BOTH LET'S SAY WE SAID, ''NO, WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR MAINTENANCE OVER HERE, WE DON'T WANT A HIGH MAINTENANCE FACILITY," SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE WHEREVER THAT GOING IN FREEDOM PARK TOO, JUST BECAUSE THE YEARS WE'VE BEEN HERE, WE SEE HOW MUCH IT COST TO MAINTAIN A BIG FACILITY.

BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM KEEPING A CONTRIBUTION TOWARD THE PAYROLL BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WITHOUT THEM, WE DON'T HAVE A REC CENTER.

WE JUST HAVE AN EMPTY BUILDING THAT NOBODY CAN RUN.

I UNDERSTAND, THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE BUT WHEN THE TIME COMES AND WE CAN TRANSITION TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, AS YOU SAY, WHEN TAX BASE GOES UP, ALL THOSE THINGS, WE CAN LOOK AT IT.

BUT FROM MY RESEARCH, EVERY CITY, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LAKE JACKSON CIVIC CENTER, LAKE JACKSON REC CENTER, PARALLED ALL OF THEM, THEY ALL REQUIRE SUBSIDIES.

NONE OF THEM PRODUCE A PROFIT FROM THAT, SO I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHY I ASKED CHRIS EARLIER BECAUSE I KNEW THIS TOPIC WAS GOING TO BE HERE, WILL WE BE ABLE TO DO MORE BONDING? IT SOUNDS IN A COUPLE OF YEARS WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO MORE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AS LONG AS WE CAN CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH.

WHEN THE TIME COMES THAT JOHN WILL SIT UP THERE AND SAY, ''WE GOT SO MUCH EXTRA MONEY GENERAL FUND WHY DON'T YOU-ALL TAKE SOME,'' [LAUGHTER] THEN WE'LL BE OKAY.

>> YOU CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT EITHER. CAN YOU JOHN? [LAUGHTER]

>> WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> BUT WE'RE ALSO ENJOYING OUR SALES TAX INCREASING.

IN SOME ASPECTS WE ARE SEEING MORE FUNDING TO ABLC EACH YEAR.

HOPEFULLY THAT CONTINUES AS WELL. ANY COMMENTS?

>> NO.

>> NO. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE ALL COVERED EVERYTHING.

>> ANYMORE ON NUMBER 5? ITEM NUMBER 6, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE COMMENT ON THE DRAFT CIP. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PARK.

[6. Discuss and provide comment on the draft Capital Improvements Plan (CIP).]

>> STAFF WAS REQUIRED TO BRING THE CITYWIDE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD ON JUNE 14TH, 2021 FOR COMMENT.

WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THIS INFORMATION AS WELL.

ACCOMPANYING THIS AGENDA ITEM SUMMARY IS THE CURRENT DRAFT OR THE CIP FOR ABLC INPUT.

AMOUNTS INCLUDED IN THE PLAN ARE ESTIMATES BASED ON RECENT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS FROM SURROUNDING AREAS AND ARE MEANT TO BE PLACEHOLDERS UNTIL FIRM NUMBERS ARE IDENTIFIED.

AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST ITEMS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER FOR THE CIP PLAN.

THAT AS WE APPROACH EACH OF THEM, THEY COULD DRASTICALLY CHANGE, ESPECIALLY DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF EACH PROJECT AND AT EACH PARK.

>> ONE THING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME IS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXPANSE OF POCKET PARKS FROM THE MAINTENANCE SIDE, MOWING THEM, MAINTAINING THEM, HOW WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE THEM, JUST TO HAVE LARGER PARKS LIKE YOU'D RATHER HAVE FEES IN LIEU OF THEN THE SUBDIVISION PARKS.

BRUSHY BIAO WAS ONE OF THOSE, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY 90 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY MAY NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT IS.

DON'T HAVE RESTROOMS, DON'T HAVE PARKING, IS JUST A PARK FOR THAT LITTLE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND WHOEVER LIVES NEXT DOOR TO IT.

BUT IN YOUR PROPOSAL, YOU HAVE $195,000 TO GO TOWARDS THAT TWEET PARKING RESTROOM, UPGRADES.

I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE BEST USE OF OUR FUNDS TO PUT ALMOST $200,000 TO A PARK THAT ANY GIVEN TIME YOU MAY HAVE FIVE PEOPLE THERE OR NO PEOPLE THERE, BUT I THINK WE WANT TO VISIT.

IS THAT GOING TO GIVE US THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK, PUTTING A LOT MORE MONEY INTO THAT LITTLE PIECE OF LAND THAT'S HIDDEN IN A CORNER OF AN OLD SUBDIVISION?

>> SOME OF THE THINGS TO CONSIDER AS WE WORKED TOWARDS DEVELOPING A MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, A MULTIMODAL PLAN, WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT OVERALL, WHEN THAT IS DEVELOPED BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED HERE IN PARKS BOARD AND EVEN ABLC ABOUT THE LACK OF CONNECTIVITY.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR STRATEGIC ITEMS IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN IS WALKABILITY TO OUR PARK SYSTEM.

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WE HAVE TALKED IN MANY MEETINGS ABOUT CONNECTING OUR DRAINAGE WAYS, INCLUDING BRUSHY BIAO.

WHILE THAT PARK IS CURRENTLY SERVING, I STILL MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I CAN AND MAYBE EVEN JERRY SINCE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW IN THE AREA, BUT THE PARK IS UTILIZED.

IF WE DO DEVELOP A MAJOR MULTIMODAL PLAN THAT PASSES THROUGH THAT WAY, IT WILL MAKE IT MORE CONNECTED TO OTHER AREAS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

THEN ANOTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PARK SYSTEM, WHILE I AGREE WITH YOU, SOME OF THOSE POCKET PARKS, MOVING FORWARD, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO ACCEPT ANYTHING UNDER FIVE ACRES.

JUST LIKE YOU SAID, IT BECOMES A MAINTENANCE HEADACHE WHEN WE'RE GOING THERE MULTIPLE TIMES FOR HALF AN ACRE OR AN ACRE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE IT AND IT IS SERVING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE NATIONAL STANDARD FOR PARKS IS A 10-MINUTE WALK TO A PARK.

BY PLACING AND HAVING PARCELS OF LAND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE SERVING PEOPLE IN A 10-MINUTE WALK, I WANT TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE DO HAVE AND BRING IT UP TO THE STANDARD.

LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IT DOESN'T HAVE A PARKING LOT, IT DOESN'T HAVE RESTROOMS. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD AS A PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD REQUIRE THAT IT HAVE BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE NEW MINIMUM STANDARD FOR OUR PARKS.

>> I THINK THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BASED ON MY WALKING, AND I'M NOT A FAST WALKER, I CAN GET TO FREEDOM PARK FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN 10 MINUTES.

THE CONNECTIVITY IS PRETTY CLOSE.

IF THAT PARK WAS IN SOUTHSIDE WHERE WE'RE DEFICIENT OF PARKS, THERE'D BE NO QUESTION TO ME TO SPEND $200,000 IN BRINGING IT UP TO CODE, BUT THIS PROXIMITY TO FREEDOM PARK, THAT'S ALL.

I WANTED TO GET THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

>> YEAH. ONE THING TO CONSIDER FROM AN ABLC PERSPECTIVE IS TO HELP STAFF PRIORITIZE WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.

IF IT IS OUTSIDE, IF IT IS REDEVELOPMENT OF THE MUNICIPAL POOLSIDE OR ACQUIRING SOME ADDITIONAL LAND ON THE SOUTHSIDE BECAUSE THERE LACKS ACCESSIBILITY IN PARKLAND, THEN THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO HEAR.

WHILE I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THE THOUGHT OF IMPROVING BRUSHY BIAO, MAYBE THAT BECOMES A LONG-TERM GOAL.

>> WHERE IS THE MUNICIPAL PARK?

>> I TERMED THAT MUNICIPAL PARK BECAUSE THE MUNICIPAL POOL TECHNICALLY ISN'T NAMED A PARK.

IT'S JUST LISTED AS THE MUNICIPAL POOL.

>> OLD POOL THERE.

>> YEAH.

>> THE PROJECT CAME UP ABOUT THE NEED FOR A NEW PAVILION AT BATES BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY DETERIORATING QUICKLY.

>> RIGHT.

>> WOULD THAT BE ON HERE?

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, ACTUALLY THE MIDYEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS INCLUDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, INCLUDED THAT.

SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT. THAT IS WHY YOU DON'T SEE IT HERE.

>> OKAY. I COULDN'T FIND IT.

THE OTHER THING THAT NOW THAT I CAN BLOW IT UP, AND AFTER A WHILE, YOU GET TIRED OF PUTTING UP ALL THIS STUFF AND THIS IS EASIER TO BLOW UP.

WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, THE FUNDS THAT ABLC IS OVERSEEING, THE ONLY THING YOU'RE ASKING FOR US IS FOR FREEDOM PARK.

WHO FUNDS ALL THE REST OF THESE PARKS? DOES THAT COME OUT OF A GENERAL FUND?

>> IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CIP PLAN, NO, IT'S NOT JUST FREEDOM PARK.

WE SHOULD HAVE AN ITEMIZATION. DO WE HAVE THAT?

>> THE BACKUP GENERATOR.

>> THAT'S AT FREEDOM PARK AND THAT'S IT.

>> YEAH. THERE ARE ONLY TWO THAT SHOW [OVERLAPPING].

>> GOT LOTS OF PARKS.

THEY ONLY HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR ABLC.

>> IT'S CLASSIFIED AS A PARK PROJECT, BUT NO, THAT IS NOT THE.

>> I WAS THINKING YOU WERE GIVING US A BREAK, AND [OVERLAPPING].

>> NO, I'M NOT.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> I'LL SEND YOU OUR SUB SHEETS.

WHAT I TRIED TO DO ON EACH OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS WAS, WHILE THEY'RE LABELED UNDER PARKS, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS EITHER SPLIT THE COST OF DESIGN THROUGH ABLC GENERAL FUND AND POTENTIAL GRANTS.

YOU'LL SEE THAT IN EACH OF THE SHEETS AND I'LL GET YOU GUYS DOCUMENTATION THAT BACKS ALL OF THIS UP.

THAT WAY, YOU CAN SEE OUR SUMMARY PAGE OF PER YEAR, WHICH FUND, WHAT RESOURCE IT'S COMING FROM.

THIS IS THE CITY-WIDE ONE,

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SO I WILL GET YOU WHAT WE HAVE.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON HERE, PART OF WHICH I WAS TRYING TO SAY, I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT I WAS OKAY.

FREEDOM PARKS ARE OUR NEXT PROJECT IN MY MIND FOR ABLC AND WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK ON IT.

THE INITIAL PLAN AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE CALLED IT.

>> DESIGN DEVELOPMENT?

>> DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS PAID BY THE DEVELOPER.

>> I'M SORRY. ITS CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

>> CONCEPT PLAN?

>> YES, AND WE'RE TERMING THAT IT'LL BE A MASTER PLAN.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT FUNDING SOURCES, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT YOU SAW WITH LAKESIDE PARK.

THAT WAS A CONCEPT PLAN WITH LAKESIDE PARK.

THIS IS A MASTER PLAN THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU QUITE A BIT MORE INFORMATION, BUT IT IS NOT YET DESIGNED FOR DEVELOPMENT.

YOU'LL SEE THE REQUEST FOR FUNDS FOR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IN THIS 2021/2022 BUDGET REQUEST.

>> OKAY. PART OF IT IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ALL USE WITHIN WHAT WE DO.

I HEARD THE WORDS THAT YOU SAID.

WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR THE $70,000? WHAT DO WE GET? WHEN DOES THAT STOP, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S MUCH MORE THAT'S HAPPENING AND I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER $400,000 THAT WE HAVE ON THAT? GIVE ME THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY TO SOMEBODY WITHOUT PARKS AND REC BOARD, BUT I'M PRETTY GOOD ON THE UPTAKE, SO [LAUGHTER] GIVE ME THAT.

>> WHAT WE'LL BE MOVING INTO NEXT IS THE DESIGN DOCUMENTS FOR THE PARK AND THE PONDS.

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH THIS BECAUSE THE NEXT STEPS WILL INCLUDE SUPPORT FROM ABLC, BUT I WILL SAY TOO, THAT THE DEVELOPER IS NOT STOPPING AT THE 70,000$ FOR THE MASTER PLAN.

THE DEVELOPER'S PAYING FOR THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE POND.

>> THE POND?

>> YES. THAT WILL BE A LARGE PORTION [OVERLAPPING] OR I WON'T SAY LARGE, BUT THAT WILL BE A PORTION OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF FREEDOM PARK.

WE MAY BE LOOKING AT LESS THAN $400,000.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DECIDED.

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE PROBABLE COSTS ARE OF THE CONCEPTS THAT WE HAVE.

>> BECAUSE PART OF MY APPROACH TO WHAT THEY DO AND THEY'RE VERY PROFESSIONAL THAT WELL, EVERYBODY WE'VE DEALT WITH, I THOUGHT WAS BOTH GROUPS HAVE BEEN VERY PROFESSIONAL.

THEY'RE OFFERING US A LOT OF DESIGN EVERY TIME WE MAKE THEM REWORK IT, THAT'S MORE TIME THAT THEY'RE SPENDING.

THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS, THEY BILL FOR THAT TIME, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON I WANT THEM REWORKING FOR EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY CAN BILL US FOR THAT BECAUSE WE'VE ASKED THEM TO.

ARE WE DONE WITH THE $70,000? HAVE WE SPENT THAT?

>> WE [OVERLAPPING] HAVE NOT SPENT ALL OF THE $70,000. NO.

>> GOOD. [OVERLAPPING] BUT THEIR HOURLY RATE IS [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE GREAT THING WE'D LEARNED IN THEIR PROPOSAL TO THE PARKS BOARD, AND I THINK EVEN ABLC WAS THAT THEY DO NOT CHARGE YOU FOR ADDITIONAL VISITS OR MEETINGS.

THAT IS ALL-ENCOMPASSING IN THE PRICE POINT THAT WE APPROVE THEM, THE $70,000.

THEY ARE NOT CHARGING US FOR ADDITIONAL MEETINGS.

>> EXCEPT FOR IRON PRODUCTS.

>> IF WE ASK THEM FOR TWO MEETINGS VERSUS 10, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE $70,000.

>> OKAY. BUT ONCE WE'VE PICKED A DESIGN, THEN WE'RE MOVING TO THE DESIGN CONCEPT AND THAT'S WHEN THE $400,000.

>> ALL OF THE ENGINEERING THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE BASICALLY A-

>> A WORKABLE PLAN.

HOW CAN SOMEBODY BUILD THIS?

>> SO THAT THEY CAN HAND OVER CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, PUT THOSE OUT FOR BIDDINGS.

YEAH.

>> OKAY.

>> THE TIME SINCE STEP 1 WILL BE THE EXCAVATION OF THE POND.

THEY HAVE A TIMELINE WHEN THEY NEED IT.

WE CAN TAKE OUR TIME FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT THERE ARE BURDENS.

PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER AND WHATEVER TIME CONCOURSE WILL NEED AND THE TENSION CAPACITY FOR THAT GETS TO THE THIRD SECTION, WHICHEVER ONE IT MAY BE.

BUT THEY WILL MOST LIKELY BE GOING IN THERE WAY BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING AND CAN AFFORD TO DO ANYTHING IN THE PARK.

>> BUT THAT COULD BE GOOD, DON'T YOU THINK?

>>NO, WE'RE NOT IN A RUSH.

>> TWO, BECAUSE WE'VE JUMPED ON THIS EARLY AND GOT THIS PART GOING THEN WE HAVE SOME INPUT AS TO THE WHERE AND WHAT KIND OF CONSTRAINTS ON THE POND, WE STILL GOT TO GIVE THEM THE NECESSARY DETENTION FIT WHICH I DON'T EXACTLY UNDERSTAND THAT I'LL NEED TO.

WE GIVE THEM SOME DIRECTION, BUT WE CAN SAY, "NO, WE'D LIKE IT MORE OVER HERE.

WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THESE THINGS OVER THERE."

>> WELL, THE WAY IT PROBABLY WOULD WORK, THE WAY THEY TYPICALLY WORK, THE WAY WE'VE DONE IN MY SUBDIVISIONS THERE,

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WE END UP WITH A SURVEY, A BOUNDARY.

SO DYLAN AND I DELINEATE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE LAKE, THE WIRE STRUCTURE WILL HAVE AN ELEVATION, THE HEIGHT OF THE WIRE, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.

TYPICALLY WE PUT THE DEPTH OF THE POND.

IF YOU GO TOO DEEP, YOU LOSE WATER.

YOU'D BE LIKE LAKESIDE, FROM THE BANK TO THE WATER IS 15 FEET.

I LEARNED THAT IN HERITAGE PARK WE CAN ONLY GO SO DEEP OTHERWISE THE WATER GOES AWAY.

I'VE LEARNED THAT IN LAKE TOO WHEN WE LET THE CONTRACTORS FOR THE CAR DEALERSHIP, THAT'S GREAT.

THEY WENT REALLY DEEP AND WE HAD TO PUMP CONSTANTLY, KEEP IT FULL ANYWAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF PARAMETERS, THERE WAS A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT WITH THEM, BUT THERE'S ONLY LIKE TWO PARAGRAPHS STATING [NOISE] DETENTION CAPACITY AND A FEW OTHER THINGS, BUT WE NEED A LOT MORE DETAIL BEFORE THEY COME IN.

THE CITY WILL REQUIRE BOND OR SOMETHING HOLD HARMLESS.

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE HUNDREDS OF DUMP TRUCKS GOING PAST THE SCHOOLS COMING IN AND OUT OF A CITY PARK.

THERE'LL HAVE TO BE MORE THAN JUST A HANDSHAKE, SAY, AND DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

IT WOULD BE GOOD WHEN YOU'RE DONE AND THAT STUFF.

I TALKED A LITTLE BIT WITH MEGHAN ABOUT IT AND WE HAVE VERY MINIMAL THINGS IN THE AGREEMENT, BUT WE NEED A SCOPE OF WORK JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN THEY KNOW ALL THOSE DETAILS AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO DO MOBILIZATION AND ACCESS.

WE DON'T WANT A RIDE AWAY CUT THROUGH LIKE A PIPELINE RUN WAY THROUGH THE WOODS AND BIRDIT CAN PROBABLY GIVE A LOT OF ADVICE ON HOW TO PUT THAT TOGETHER BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO DO EXCAVATING OR ANYTHING.

>> BIRDIT HAS GIVEN US SOME PROPOSALS TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT, PROVIDE A CHECKS AND BALANCES SO THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CITY SIDE, NOT JUST SAYING OKAY, DEVELOPER GO IN AND DO.

BUT ALSO THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITH THE POND THAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR WILL GIVE US SOME OF THOSE ASSURANCES, I'LL SAY, BECAUSE WE AS CITY STAFF AND A DEVELOPMENT TEAM WILL BE ABLE TO SAY, YES, THIS IS PERMITTED, WE'RE FINE WITH THIS OR NO, NOT AT ALL, WE DON'T WANT THIS AT ALL.

I THINK WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO SEE BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION.

IF IT DOESN'T MEET OUR SPECIFICATIONS WITH DESIGN, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO ALLOW THEM TO MOVE FORWARD OR WE WOULDN'T UNTIL IT MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS.

>> I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE A WAY THAT THEY COULD ENTER THE PROPERTY OFF OF, IS IT 275?

>> YOU HAVE 523 AND THEN YOU HAVE CAMPUS DRIVE.

>> YEAH. I WOULD HOPE WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME WAY TO DO THAT.

>> WE WILL WORK WITH THEM WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.

WE ARE NOT THERE YET.

WE JUST TALKED TO STEVE TENNES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT REGARDING THE NEXT STEP IN THE MASTER PLAN AND SO THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE HAVE, WE'LL REVIEW A PLAN THAT HAS ACTUAL RENDERING OF WHAT IS REQUIRED, WHETHER IT BE DRY DETENTION OR WET DETENTION AND IN ITS FULL SCOPE, YOU'LL BE PRESENTED WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH.

IT SHOULD BE A DRAFT OF THE FINAL PLAN.

THAT IS, I THINK WE HAVE ON HERE FOR ABLC IS SPECIFIC TO FREEDOM, BUT LIKE I SAID, CHARLYN, I'LL GET YOU THOSE SHEETS THAT ITEMIZES GENERAL FUND, ABLC, AND THEN ALSO POTENTIAL GRANTS THAT WE COULD BE SEEKING OUT.

I'LL GET YOU THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

>> OKAY. WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT, I WAS LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF PARTS BUT I'M LIKE WE CAN'T FUND ALL OF THIS SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT?

>> SURE.

>> ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT CHRIS GAVE US EARLIER ABOUT HOW THIS THING ROLLS OUT WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE PIPELINE TO BOND.

>> ACTUALLY THE RELIANCE SHOULD BE FREE ON PART OF MASTER PLAN AND CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT?

>> NO. [OVERLAPPING] BUT WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO OR WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PLAN IS THAT IT'S A FISCAL YEAR, SO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT TAKES A BIT OF TIME AND SO WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BOND OUT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF FOR CONSTRUCTION THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE SUMMARY HERE.

>> I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

IT SAYS FREEDOM PART MASTER PLAN HAS THE 400,000 IN FISCAL YEAR '21, '22.

BUT THEN TWO YEARS LATER, ON THE SAME LINE, YOU HAVE FISCAL YEAR '23, '24, THREE MILLION DOLLARS.

>> YES. THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YES.

>> RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I SAID IT SHOULD PROBABLY READ FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN.

>> I UNDERSTAND THE TITLE.

SURE. I CAN MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

>> I PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THERE.

SO IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE].

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WAS IT JERRY AND OTHERS OR IS THIS SOMETHING I'LL JUST KIND OF, " I KNOW THESE NUMBERS ARBITRATE".

OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T PROJECT THAT OUT, BUT YOU DID LOOK AT IT, THEY COVERED QUITE A BIT OF STUFF.

>> FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DARK PARK REDESIGN, WE WERE TAKING NUMBERS FROM JACKSON.

THEY JUST RECENTLY INSTALLED THEIR DARK PARK SO I TALKED TO JEREMY ABOUT MAKEOVER, HOW MUCH HE SPENT ON DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.

SOME OF THESE NUMBERS WERE TRYING TO PORTRAY REASONABLE NUMBERS, BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T YET KNOW.

>> BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REC CENTER EXPANSION IS GOING TO BE.

>> NOT AT ALL. [LAUGHTER]

>> I WAS LOOKING AT NUMBER AND I WAS TRYING TO PUT IT IN MY HEAD, "WHAT CAN YOU-ALL BE TAUGHT-" [OVERLAPPING]

>> BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE GO ON PARK AND FACILITY TOURS SOME OF THE CONCEPTS THAT WE HAVE AND THAT YOU'LL SEE IN FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT IN OUR LAST ITEM IS THINGS LIKE CITY OF PASADENA, STRAWBERRY WATER PARK AND SO WHEN WE GO AND VISIT THEM, WE'RE ASKING THEM, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS RENOVATION COST, HOW MUCH DID THIS PROJECT COST YOU? WE'RE COMBINING AND TAKING DIFFERENT INFORMATION WE'RE RECEIVING FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

BUT YES, THEY'RE ARBITRARY.

>> LAST QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS AROUND, IT'D BE NICE TO SEE THIS LIST WITH JUST PARKS AND ABLC.

>> I AGREE.

>> SURE WE HAVE THAT.

>> THEN THE PRIORITIES OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE SOME OF THESE, I'M LOOKING AT THE PRIORITY LEVELS AND I'M THINKING, WELL, THIS PROBABLY SHOULD BE IN THIS OUT YEAR AND THIS MAY BE SHOULD HOLD IN.

>> YOU GOT IT. WE CAN DO THAT AND BRING THAT BACK FOR SOME PRIORITIZATION FOR YOU GUYS.

>> INPUT FROM PARKS BOARD AS WELL, I THINK.

>> I AGREE.

>> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

ONE IS I APPRECIATE, YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND THOUGHT AND AS YOU'VE EXPLAINED, MAYBE CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHERS TRYING TO COME UP WITH A REALISTIC FIGURES AND TRYING TO GO INTO DETAILS.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU-ALL HAVE SPENT IN TRYING TO BE REALISTIC.

THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM WHAT CHRIS SHARED IN TERMS OF A [INAUDIBLE].

I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT A COMPREHENSIVE PARK SYSTEM AND AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIVED IN THAT APARTMENT AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT PART FREEDOM PARK WASN'T AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME AND WHEN YOU HAVE REALLY SMALL CHILDREN, FREEDOM PARK MAY STILL NOT BE AVAILABLE.

I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION OF BRINGING THAT UP TO STANDARD WITH ALL THE OTHER PARKS BECAUSE IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THING AND IT IS A SENSE OF PRIDE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I AGREE WITH YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> [OVERLAPPING] NOT INTENTIONAL, I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT IN AS A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT FROM SOMEBODY WHO LIVED BOTH IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

[OVERLAPPING].

>> THE DEVELOPER IN ME CRIES BAD AND SAY, "HEY, I COULD PUT SIX OR EIGHT HOUSES ON THE PAID $200,000 TO THE CITY AND PUT HOMES IN THERE.

THEN THEY COULD TURN AROUND AND TAKE $200,000 TO SOMETHING ELSEWHERE.

I LOOK AT IT IN EVERYBODY'S ACCOUNT BUT YOU KNOW HOW IT IS.

>> WHAT ARE WE DOING AT WELCH?

>> AS FAR AS VISIONING?

>> VISIONING. WHAT'S THE VISION?

>> YOU WILL SEE THAT AT OUR LAST ITEM.

WE'RE REALLY JUST SEEKING COMMENT FROM YOU GUYS.

WE HAVE DEEMED ALL OF THOSE ITEMS OBSOLETE.

IN STEWART'S UPDATE, HE INFORMED YOU THAT ALL THOSE POLLS WERE MOVED. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I CAN GET A POLL IF I NEEDED ONE.

>> YES, IF YOU STILL NEED IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D WANT THEM, BUT [LAUGHTER]WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT SO THAT STAFF HAS DIRECTION, AND KNOWS HOW TO MOVE FORWARD IN REDEVELOPMENT.

>> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM NUMBER 6? MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7,

[7. Discuss and provide comment on the preliminary Parks, Right-of-Way, and Recreation division budgets for fiscal years 2021-2022.]

DISCUSS AND PROVIDE COMMENT ON THE PRELIMINARY PARKS, RIGHT OF WAY, AND RECREATION DIVISION BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEARS 2021 AND 2022?

>> YES. STAFF HAS SUBMITTED BUDGET REQUEST TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR REVIEW BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO COUNCIL REVIEW FOR SOME CONSIDERATION.

THESE REQUESTS ARE BASED ON STRATEGIC GOALS, STAFFING NEEDS, AND PARK AND RECREATION PROJECTS, MANY OF WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN.

SOME OF THE MAJOR CHANGES TO OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR INCLUDE THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND RIGHT OF WAY, SALARIES AND PARKS FOR ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION, DIRECTOR AND CUSTODIAN, CONTRACT LABOR FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT AND PARK INFRASTRUCTURE.

I WILL SAY THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS, AND WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN THESE ITEMS, BUT THE ADDITION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY EMPLOYEES IS SPECIFICALLY FOR WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXPANSION OF LAKESIDE PARK.

WE'RE REASSESSING AND REEVALUATING HOW ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES WORK AND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.

WE WENT OUT TO BID FOR CONTRACT RIGHT OF WAY MOWING AND THE LOWEST BID WAS RIGHT AROUND $150?

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> YEAH, $155, $160 AND WE ARE

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ABLE TO EMPLOY A CREW LEADER AND A CREW MEMBER FOR UNDER THAT, FOR ITEMS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSING LIKE MAINTENANCE ON OUR PARKS AND JUST ADDING ANOTHER PERSON TO OUR CREW.

JUST TALKING ABOUT WHILE WE SAY ADDITIONAL POSITIONS ON RIGHT OF WAY, WE'RE SUGGESTING RATHER THAN GOING FORWARD WITH CONTRACT MOWING, THAT WE HIRE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES LATER IN THE YEAR TO HELP WITH OVERALL OPERATIONS.

ANOTHER, NOTE THAT I SHOULD MAKE CONTRACT LABOR FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT.

THIS WAS REALLY FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, AS WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THESE NEW, "HEY, WE'VE GOT SUBSTANDARD PARK.

WELL, THE MUNICIPAL POOL, THE DOG PARK NEEDS TO BE REDESIGNED." THAT IS WHAT THIS IS PART OF, AS WELL AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE ABLC BUDGET AND THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN FOR OUR PARKS' SYSTEM.

THAT WAS MENTIONED ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

THE RECREATION DIVISION TOOK A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THE BUDGET DUE TO THE IMPACTS OF COVID.

WE'RE STILL CALCULATING SOME OF THOSE COVID NUMBERS BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, BUT WE'VE BEEN PLEASANTLY SURPRISED THIS SUMMER.

HOWEVER, WITH THE BUDGET PREP, WE'RE NOT SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO PRE-COVID YEAR NUMBERS.

WE WERE CALCULATING BOTH A COVID AND NON-COVID YEAR FOR OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS.

REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON AN AVERAGE OF PRE-COVID REVENUE AND COVID REVENUE YEARS.

IF REVENUE EXCEEDS EXPECTATIONS, THE RECREATION DIVISION WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS VARIOUS MAINTENANCE PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN ITEMIZED IN AN ATTACHMENT ENCLOSED.

THAT'S THE DOCUMENT THAT I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT.

WE HAVE A LIST OF MAINTENANCE ITEM FOR ANGLETON REC CENTER.

WE HAVE A LIST OF ITEMS IN THE PARKS FROM OUR ASSOCIATIONS, AND SO THAT IS ENCLOSED IN THE PACKET.

ADDITIONALLY, WHILE WE ANTICIPATED A REDUCED TRANSFER FROM ABLC TO GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT PARKS PERSONNEL, CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO STAFF REGARDING NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR HAS GREATLY IMPACTED THE PERCENTAGE THAT WILL NEED TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR NORMAL OPERATIONS.

ORIGINALLY, IT WAS 50 PERCENT.

THIS PAST YEAR WAS 50 PERCENT.

IT LOOKS LIKE ALL WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IS A 10 PERCENT REDUCTION, WHERE YOU'LL SEE IN THESE DOCUMENTS WE PROPOSED A 25 PERCENT REDUCTION.

RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON THE GRAPHS AND CHARTS, I THINK THE MAIN THINGS TO FOCUS ON ARE REALLY YOUR SUMMARY PAGES.

IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 37 AND THEN THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR THE GENERAL FUND, THAT IS FOR YOUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE ALSO ADDED AS MANY COMMENTS AS WE CAN, SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYTHING IS ACCOUNTING FOR.

RATHER THAN GOING LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE PARKS' BUDGET?

>> I APPRECIATE THAT.

EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SHOOTING FOR 25 PERCENT, CITY COUNCIL GAVE ME FEEDBACK THAT YOU REDUCED IT TO 10 PERCENT, SO STILL REDUCTION.

I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION FOR THE PERSONNEL.

>> THANK YOU. FOR THE CONTRACT SERVICES, THAT IS ONE ITEM TOO.

I BELIEVE CHRIS AND I TALKED ABOUT REDUCING JUST TO KEEP IN LINE WITH THE NO NEW REVENUES.

THAT $30,000 THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WE'VE ELIMINATED AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY MUCH NEEDED MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.

RATHER THAN CUTTING THAT, WE CUT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR FUTURE DESIGN.

>> WHERE IS THAT MEGHAN?

>> SURE.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

>> THIRTY-EIGHT?

>> YES. ON PAGE 39, LINE ITEM 01550415, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, YOU'LL SEE IN THE COMMENTS $30,000 FOR MRB GRANT AND ADMINISTRATION FOR TPW GRANTS.

>> OKAY.

>> THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED.

>> OKAY. THIS FIRST BUDGET [INAUDIBLE] IS AT THE CITY LEVEL, IS AT PARKS DEPARTMENT?

>> WE BRING THESE LIKE I'VE EXPLAINED TO YOU GUYS BEFORE, THIS IS MY WISH LIST AND SO WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU.

>> OKAY.

>> WHILE I SAY WISH LIST, I MEAN IT DOESN'T EVEN CAPTURE

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OVER $3 MILLION WORTH OF MAINTENANCE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM.

[OVERLAPPING] WE FEEL LIKE IT'S PRETTY CONSERVATIVE.

>> THE SALARIES ON PAGE 30 ARE FOR ALL THE PARKS PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE?

>> UNDER PARKS PERSONNEL, YES.

>> YEAH, OKAY. GOT IT.

THANK YOU. DID THE CITY'S HEALTH INSURANCE STAY ABOUT THE SAME, GO UP, OR DO YOU KNOW YET?

>> HEALTH INSURANCE.

>> WE KNOW ABOUT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

THAT HAPPENS AFTER BUDGET.

>> WE'RE PROJECTING A 15-PERCENT INCREASE.

>> ONE, FIVE?

>> FIFTEEN PERCENT.

>> OKAY.

>> YES.

>> WHAT WAS IT LAST YEAR FOR THIS CURRENT BUDGET HERE? [OVERLAPPING] WHAT WE BUDGETED AND WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL? DO YOU REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD?

>> I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. [OVERLAPPING]

>> OUR BUDGET IS USUALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT IT ACTUALLY COMES IN.

>> OKAY. GOT IT.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PARKS' BUDGET? IF NOT, I'LL MOVE FORWARD.

>> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION AND IT'S REGARDING THE RIGHT OF WAY MOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HIRE ANOTHER PERSON TO HELP YOU WITH THE MOWING.

DO WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT?

>> THAT IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CALCULATED.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THAT WE MENTIONED IN THE PROPOSED PERSONNEL CHANGES.

ONE WILL BE MAINTENANCE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG STEWART, AND WILL BE BASICALLY RIDING ALONG WITH THE CREW LEADER THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOR MAINTENANCE.

THEY'RE NOT A CREW LEADER NOW.

WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE HAVE A CREW LEADER POSITION.

THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD PAIR TOGETHER, SO THAT THEY CAN DO MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.

RATHER THAN ONE SPECIFIED PERSON, WE WILL HAVE TWO, A CREW LEADER AND A SUBORDINATE.

THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL WILL JOIN AN EXISTING MOWING CREW.

WE ARE NOT NEEDING AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE AT THIS TIME.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE REQUESTED VEHICLES FROM ENTERPRISE FLEET THAT WE'RE JUST LACKING TO DATE.

IT'S NOT FOR THE ADDITIONAL CREW MEMBERS.

DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE EQUIPMENT LIKE MOWING, MOWERS, ALL OF THAT?

>> ARE WE GETTING PEOPLE TO MOW OR ARE WE?

>> YES.

>> CORRECT.

ONE EMPLOYEE WILL GO TO MAINTENANCE, THE OTHER EMPLOYEE WILL GO TO A MOWING CREW, A PARCH MOWING CREW, NOT A RIGHT OF WAY MOWING CREW.

THIS IS FOR THE ADDITION OF LIKE SAID.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW, AN EXTRA ZERO TURN MOWER.

WE HAVE A TRAILER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ONE CREW THAT HAS THREE MEMBERS ON IT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A TRAILER BIG ENOUGH TO CARRY THREE LAWNMOWERS.

WELL, WE HAVE A TRAILER FOR THAT EXTRA LAWNMOWER FOR THE NEXT PERSON IN THAT SECOND CREW.

LIKE I SAID, THE RIGHT OF WAY MOWING PERSONNEL, IT WILL STAY THE SAME.

>> DO YOU PLAN ON MOWING THE LAKESIDE PARK? YOU NEED A BATWING MOWER, AND I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE ONE BECAUSE YOU MOW OUT THERE, BUT YOU PLAN ON MOWING THE INSIDE OF THE TRAIL DOWN TO THE WATER'S EDGE WITH THAT TRACTOR? THE ONE YOU USE NOW TO MOW THE PARK? BECAUSE THE ZERO TURN, YOU'LL NOT BE ABLE TO GET CLOSE TO THE WATER. [OVERLAPPING]

>> CORRECT. WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY, PLUS WE HAVE A SLOPE MOWER.

>> BUT THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING THAT, I HAVE SOME SIMILAR EQUIPMENT, ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THAT AND WHOEVER'S DRIVING IT WILL NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHEN THEY GO OVER THE TRAILS.

I KNOW THE CONCRETE. I ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST FOUR-INCH ON THOSE CONCRETE TRAILS, BUT THAT BATWING AND THAT TRACTOR DO A LOT MORE DAMAGE [INAUDIBLE] TURN.

>> RIGHT. WELL, WE HAVE A SMALLER, 10-FOOT MOWER TOO.

>> OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 7?

>> ITEM 7.[BACKGROUND]

>> ON PAGE 45, I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE $300,000 NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE TRANSFER.

[OVERLAPPING] WALK ME THROUGH THAT.

>> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I BELIEVE THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR THE RECREATION, FUN [INAUDIBLE] AS YOUR ROOF PROJECT.

WHEN WE HIT THE CONTINGENCY ACCOUNT THAT YOU SAID WAS $217 BECAUSE WE'VE COMPLETED THAT PROJECT,

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WE'RE ONLY HITTING THAT ACCOUNT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO SHOW, WE'VE GOT ACCOUNT IT TO ONE LINE ITEM, THESE PROJECTS.

BUT AT THE END OF IT, WE'LL BE MAKING THAT TRANSFER FROM ANGLETON REC CENTER FUND BALANCE TO PAY FOR THOSE EXPENSES.

>> OKAY.

>> IS THAT CORRECT, CHRIS?

>> YES.

>> FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON BUDGET, IT COMES FROM REC CENTER BACK AND TO PARKS AND RECREATION TRANSFERS IN? CHRIS, HELP ME. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD TRANSFER IT FOR CITY OF ANGLETON.

IT'S ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE REC CENTER, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT. THE FIRST PART WAS PARKS, BUT THIS PAGE 45 IS ACTUALLY REC CENTER.

THIS IS $160.

>> OKAY, SORRY.

>> THIS IS THE REC CENTER. IT IS THE REC CENTER.

OKAY, PROJECTED.

>> ON THE REVENUE SIDE, YOU TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF FUND BALANCE, YOU TRANSFER IT FROM FUND BALANCE AND IT GOES INTO A REVENUE ACCOUNT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO USE THAT TO COVER THE EXPENSES AND THE EXPENSES ARE BOOKED DOWN UNDER EXPENDITURES UNDER CONTINGENCY.

THEY OFFSET EACH OTHER, WHICH IS THAT $520 ACCOUNT.

THAT'S FLOWING DOWN BELOW.

WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT PROJECTED, SEE THAT $370 IN MISCELLANEOUS?

>> MISCELLANEOUS, HANG ON. BEAR WITH ME.

I'M SORRY, YOU'RE AHEAD OF ME.

>> THE $300 ABOVE IS THE TRANSFER FROM FUND BALANCE TO THE REVENUE ACCOUNT TO COVER THE EXPENDITURES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MISCELLANEOUS LINE BELOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT PROJECTED AT $370.

>> CAN YOU GIVE ME A PAGE NUMBER? IS IT ON 48?

>> FORTY-FIVE.

>> NO, THE SAME PAGE.

>> THE SAME PAGE.

>> YEAH, 45. LOOK ON OUR EXPENDITURES DOWN FURTHER DOWN, YOU GOT PERSONNEL AND SUPPLIES, OTHER EXPENDITURES AND THEN AFTER SERVICES, YOU'VE GOT MISCELLANEOUS.

THIS IS A SUMMARY.

BUT IN THAT, IF YOU GO OVER TO THE PROJECTED COLUMN, THAT $370 IN THE MISCELLANEOUS ROW.

>> I DON'T SEE THE $370.

>> I DO. IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE HERE.

>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE $370. [OVERLAPPING]

>> MISCELLANEOUS, OKAY, $370 MISCELLANEOUS.

>>THAT'S ALL OF THE MISCELLANEOUS, BUT IN THAT ITEM IS THE CONTINGENCY LINE.

FALLS INTO THAT LINE.

>> CAN YOU ALL DO SOME LITTLE AS AND BS?

>> THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY PAGE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGES, WE HAVE THE [NOISE] DETAIL OF EVERY LINE ITEM.

>> OKAY.

>> IN THE NEXT PAGES, YEAH.

>> LET ME SEE WHAT PAGE IS THE DETAILED ONE.

>> ANYTIME I SEE A BIG $300,000 RED NUMBER, I'M LIKE, "OKAY, WHY A BIG $300,000 RED NUMBER?"

>> CHRIS, NEXT TIME, MAKE IT A NEGATIVE BUT MAKE IT GREEN.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S THE COUNT. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT NEGATIVES ARE.

>> I KNOW.

>> JOHN, JUST LIKE YOU DO.

>> YEAH, I'M TELLING YOU. THE RED, IT JUMPS OUT THERE.

>> I LIKE THE SCHEDULE.

IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION, BUT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY A TRANSFER WAS GOING TRANSFERRING INTO REVENUES.

[BACKGROUND]

>> ON PAGE 53, THAT'S THE DETAIL OF THOSE EXPENSES IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE IN MISCELLANEOUS.

>> I SEE THE $370 THERE [OVERLAPPING]

>> THERE'S THE DETAIL, LINE ITEM DETAIL, THAT $370.

>> GOT YOU, WHICH THERE'S A CONTINGENCY OF THE $316 AND THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED.

>> THAT'S THE $217 PLUS THE REST OF PRODUCTS TO THE REST OF THE YEAR.

BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROJECTED, THE NUMBER YOU WERE LOOKING FOR EARLIER, THAT IS THE PROJECTION OF THE END OF THE YEAR.

>> PROJECTED EXPENSE BECOMES A TRANSFER TO REVENUE.

>> THIS IS THE EXPENSE SIDE.

THE JOURNAL ENTRY IS TO DEBIT FUND BALANCE AND TO CREDIT INCOME FOR THE TRANSFER.

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THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS ON THE INCOME SIDE.

SPEND SIDE, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXPENSES $520.

OKAY. THEY'RE JUST BALANCING WITH THE FUND BALANCE.

THEY'RE TRANSFERRING FROM THE FUND BALANCE INTO THE REVENUES TO COVER ALL THE EXPENSES. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

>> ARE WE GOING TO ACTUALLY SHOW REVENUE FOR USE OF FUND BALANCE?

>> YES. BECAUSE IT HAS TO HIT THE P&L.

SO THAT IT COVERS THE EXPENSES, OR ELSE YOU HAVE A DEFICIT.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE MONEY FROM PREVIOUS YEAR.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT MONEY AND TAKE IT OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE AND PUT IT INTO REVENUE ITEMS, SO IT COVERS THE EXPENSES ON THE P&L OR ELSE IT'LL STILL BE ON THE BALANCE SHEET AND IT WOULDN'T FALL TO THE P&L.

>> BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE A DIRECT ENTRY TO YOUR FUND BALANCE?

>> RIGHT.

>> YOU CAN'T HAVE A LOSS.

>> YEAH.

>> YOU CAN'T HAVE A LOSS?

>> YOU CAN'T HAVE A LOSS IN THE ACCOUNT, NO, BECAUSE IT'S BALANCING.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ADDING THE REVENUE TO BALANCE IT TO ZERO.

OTHERWISE, YOU WOULD SEE IT GO IN OUR WORLD.

>> WELL, WE COULD HAVE A LOSS, RIGHT?

>> WE CAN HAVE A LOSS.

>> WE CAN HAVE A LOSS.

>> IT HAS TO BE A BALANCED BUDGET IN THE END.

>> EXACTLY.

>> OKAY. GOT IT.

THAT RIGHT THERE DID IT. THANK YOU. SORRY.

>> YOU SPEAK ACCOUNTANT.

>> IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE I'VE ACTUALLY DONE FUND ACCOUNTING, SO DIDN'T MISS IT.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ANGLETON REC CENTER OR ABLC'S BUDGET SINCE WE'RE WORKING HERE WITH SOME OF THESE PAGES?

>> MOVING ON TO NUMBER 8,

[8. Discussion and possible action on Angleton Recreation Center plaza renovations and other projects through the ABLC contingency fund.]

DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON ANGLETON REC CENTER, PLAZA, RENOVATIONS.

I JUST CHANGED THEM, I'M SORRY.

>> THE PROJECTS THROUGH AVLC CONTINGENCY FUND. [OVERLAPPING].

>> OTHER PROJECTS IN THE ABLC CONTINGENCY FUND.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT PAGE 60? I'M SORRY.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> PAGE 60 IS FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

ON 60, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO ASK FOR $400,000 FROM ABLC.

I SEE THE TRANSFER.

NORMALLY, THE TRANSFER COMING IN IS WHAT YOU [INAUDIBLE]? NO, ANGLETON BETTER LIVING.

OKAY, THIS IS ANGLETON.

THE $400,000 IS FOR WHAT?

>> FOR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT FOR FREEDOM PARK.

>> OKAY, GOT IT.

>> IF YOU LOOK TO AT OTHER WHERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE REDUCTION OF THE ABLC TRANSFER TO GENERAL FUND BY 25 PERCENT, THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO DECREASE.

>> BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE 40.

>> RIGHT.

>> GOT YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.

IT HELPS IF I WRITE IT DOWN, THEN I GOT IT.

THE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE ON HERE IS OUR PROJECTED SALES, WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR NEXT YEAR, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

>> FIVE PERCENT INCREASE, WHAT I'M SEEING.

CORRECT. IT SEEMS PRETTY REASONABLE.

OKAY, GREAT.[BACKGROUND]

>> WE WERE ASKED AT THE LAST ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION MEETING TO BRING FORTH TO YOU THE PROJECT FOR ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER PLAZA RENOVATIONS, WE ARE STILL AWAITING QUOTES FOR FENCING AND LIGHTING, AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING FOR OUTSIDE IN THAT PLAZA AREA BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO CAPTURE EVERYTHING FOR $25,000 OR LESS.

YOU HAVE A LITTLE OVER $54,000 IN YOUR CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM AND SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED WAS PRICING FOR A 10 FOOT CONCRETE PATH, WHAT WE HAD MENTIONED WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AT THEIR MOST RECENT MEETING IS THE CONCEPTS OF GOING AROUND THE CHENANGO DETENTION.

WE ACTUALLY DO NOT OWN ALL OF THAT PROPERTY AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE WANT THAT TO BE DESIGNED AND WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER EXPANSION IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE BEFORE WE START CREATING BOUNDARIES FOR OURSELF WITH A CONCRETE PATH.

WE DON'T RECOMMEND IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER RENOVATIONS TO THE REC CENTER PLAZA AND MAINLY BECAUSE GIVING THAT A LITTLE BIT OF A FACE-LIFT, WE COULD TURN THAT INTO A REVENUE-GENERATING AREA BY PROGRAMMING IT WITH SOME OUTDOOR AMENITIES ADDING TO OUR EXISTING TABLES,

[01:45:01]

UMBRELLA SPACES AND WE THINK THAT IT WOULD BE MORE USED THAN IT CURRENTLY IS.

WE ALSO HAVE AGAIN, THERE'S SOME OTHER PROJECT.

THIS IS THE ATTACHMENT THAT WE WERE REFERRING TO THAT AMOUNTS TO OVER THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECTS AS IT RELATES TO MAINTENANCE AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND FOR OUR ASSOCIATIONS, SO BEFORE YOU TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS ITEM, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER SOME OF THOSE ITEMS AND ASSESS WHAT IS YOUR PRIORITY.

ONE OF THE PRIORITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE AND IS ALSO ADDRESSING IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS AN ADA TRANSITION PLAN FOR THE PARK SYSTEM SO THIS IS A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT TO HAVE AND IF WE DO NOT FUND IT THIS YEAR, YOU WILL SEE THAT IT IS IN YOUR ABLC BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR AS ONE OF THOSE PARK PROJECTS.

IF WE BRING IN SALES TAX REVENUE OVER WHAT WE NEED FOR THE ANGLETON REC CENTER, WE INTEND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS VITAL FOR US.

>> HOW DOES THAT IMPACT BRAND [INAUDIBLE].

>> SURE.

IT COULD IMPACT FEDERAL GRANTS THAT WE HAVE SHOWING THAT WE HAVE AN ADA TRANSITION PLAN IN PLACE AND AGAIN, IT'S A FEDERAL MANDATE THAT WE MUST HAVE EVEN IF IT'S NOT FUNDED, WE WILL GET SOMETHING ON THE GROUND INTERNALLY.

WE'VE ALREADY ASSESSED ITEMS AND HAVE BEGUN ADDRESSING ITEMS THROUGHOUT OUR PARK SYSTEM, FOR INSTANCE, MANY OF YOU GUYS REMEMBER US GETTING RID OF SOME OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS THAT WERE NOT ADA ACCESSIBLE.

WE HAD PEA GRAVEL THAT WAS NOT AN ACCESSIBLE PLAY SURFACE ANY LONGER SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO GET A PLAN IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN START PRIORITIZING SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AND FUNDING THEM PROPERLY.

>> IS THAT ON THE LIST? [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S NOT ON YOUR LIST BECAUSE WE'VE INCLUDED IT IN YOUR BUDGET.

WE INCLUDED IT IN THE ABLC BUDGET AS A PRODUCT ITEM UNDER THAT LINE WHERE WE SAID, ''HEY, BECAUSE OF THE 25 PERCENT REDUCTION IN TRANSFER, WE'RE HOPING TO SAVE YOU ABOUT 260,000, WE WANT THAT MONEY TO BE DEDICATED TO PARK PROJECTS WHICH INCLUDE AN ADA TRANSITION PLAN, A CONCEPT PLAN FOR VETERANS PARK, AND THEN ALSO WELCH." THOSE ARE IN THE COMMENTS ON THAT LINE ITEM THAT IS ON PAGE 66, LINE ITEM 40, 506, 625.

PROBABLY ABOUT MID PAGE, YOU'LL SEE IN THE COMMENTS, FREEDOM, EXCUSE ME, ADA, ABOUT 50,000, VETERAN 75 AND WELCH 92.

>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU GOT TO HAVE AN ADA PLAN?

>> WE'VE GOT TO HAVE AN ADA PLAN.

>> THAT USES ALL THE 54,000? [NOISE]

>> IT REALLY DOES.

>> I'M JUST MAKING SURE WE ALL GOT THE MATH THERE.

>> WHAT WE WANT YOU TO CONSIDER IS ONE, APPROVING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET AND/OR WE DO IT THIS YEAR IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAZA RENOVATIONS, WE CAN DO THAT THIS YEAR, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SAYING YES, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN NEXT YEAR.

>> WHAT'S 10 PERCENT OF THE PARK'S BUDGET BOARD, WHAT WE JUST SAVE FROM GOING FROM THE 50 TO THE 40?

>> ABOUT 26,000 SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO FLIP FLOP THEM.

>> OKAY.

>> ISN'T THAT RIGHT?

>> TEN PERCENT. [LAUGHTER]

>> I'M TAKING 10 PERCENT ACTUALLY OF THE 25 SO NO, THAT'S NOT ACCURATE, WE SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN THAT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING BECAUSE LAST YEAR AT 50, I THINK WE WERE AT 338.

>> LET ME GO BACK TO THIS NUMBER AND WE CAN GET A MORE ACCURATE IDEA FOR YOU.

>> I'M INCLINED TO SAY LET'S DO THE PLAZA RENOVATION, BUT THAT'S JUST ME AS I'M SITTING HERE BECAUSE THE MORE WE MAKE THE REC CENTER ATTRACTIVE AND PEOPLE COME, THEN THEY SPREAD THE WORD AND THEN MORE PEOPLE COME, AND THEN IT BECOMES EVEN MORE POSITIVE BUT IT'S ALSO IS LESS OF A BUDGET DRAIN.

>> SURE.

>> PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT AND IF THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A READY TO GO THING, THIS CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE LATTER PART OF THE SUMMER, RIGHT? WRONG?

>> WELL, I MEAN, IT WOULD.

>> REALISTICALLY?

>> YEAH.

>> LET'S BE REAL.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE LATTER PART OF THE SUMMER. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'D LIKE TO SCOPE. LET'S GO [INAUDIBLE].

>> LETS DO IT. LET'S PUT IT UP.

>> IT PROBABLY BE ABOUT SIX MONTHS.

[01:50:01]

>> OH, SIX MONTHS?

>> I HOPE IT WOULDN'T BE SIX MONTHS.

>> I BET IT WOULD BE. WELL, I SEE IT'S 217,000 FOR THE ADA.

OH, 50,000. THANK YOU.

>> 50,000.

>> I SEE YOU [INAUDIBLE].

>> YOU'RE SAYING DO THAT INSTEAD IN THE ADA?

>> WELL, WHAT I AM RECOMMENDING IS THAT YOU CHOOSE ONE OR THE OTHER THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, BUT THAT THE ADA HAPPENS EITHER THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.

>> I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE REVENUE FROM THE ADDITIONAL SALES TAX THIS YEAR.

HOW MUCH ARE WE OFF AGAIN? SORRY A COUPLE [INAUDIBLE].

>> THE TOTAL RIGHT NOW IS 5.67.

>> I TEND TO THINK THAT WHILE THE ADA, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AS, I'M STRUGGLING FOR MY WORDS, VISIBLE, WHERE IT MAY NOT BE AS VISIBLE, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED, AND IF THE POSSIBLE IMPACT IS MORE GRANT MONEY, I THINK WE GO WITH THE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THAT TAKES CARE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THE PARK AND GO FOR SOME OF THAT GRANT MONEY.

I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU'RE ONLY ASKING FOR 25,000 [LAUGHTER] IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

>> THAT'S ANOTHER POINT THAT YOU'LL SEE.

WELL, YOU HAVEN'T BUDGETED IT, I'M ASKING FOR THE FULL AMOUNT BECAUSE WE CAN ADDRESS OTHER MAINTENANCE ISSUES.

WHILE YOU ASKED US TO PRESENT ONLY THE PLAZA, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ATTACHMENT, WE HAVE $3.1 MILLION [LAUGHTER] PLUS AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.

WE CAN ADDRESS OTHER ITEMS, AND SO WE CAN CERTAINLY SPEND THE 54.

>> WELL, WE OUGHT TO SPEND THE 54, BUT THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE SPEND IT ON? [LAUGHTER]

>> I JUST WANT TO BE, JOHN, A LITTLE BIT TRANSPARENT.

WE REQUIRED TO DO ADA FOR THE REST OF THE CITY TOO, SO CITY FACILITIES, CITY SIDEWALKS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THIS PROPOSAL IS SPLITTING IT UP BETWEEN PARKS AND THE REST OF THE CITY.

IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUDGET IS THE REST OF THE ADA TRANSITION AND PLAN.

YOU'LL HEAR THIS AGAIN, WE'RE SPLITTING IT UP, BUT IT'S REALLY A CITY-WIDE REQUIREMENT TOO.

THE TXDOT PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING, I HOPE YOU START WITH THAT AND OTHER GRANTS.

I JUST WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT TRANSPARENT.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE. THIS WOULD BE PART OF A CITY-WIDE [OVERLAPPING] RECOVERY.

>> A BIGGER PICTURE, YEAH. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WELL, THEN I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE LEAVE IT IN THE BUDGET AND WE COMMIT TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE THE CITY WILL BE DEALING WITH THAT SAME ISSUE ON THE CITY SIDE.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING THE PLAZA, BUT DO WE KNOW.

DO WE HAVE TAMMY [INAUDIBLE]?

>> [LAUGHTER] HAVE WE GOTTEN ESTIMATES ON DELIVERY ON SOME OF THE CONCRETE AMENITIES?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YEAH.

>> BUT IF WE COULD GET THEM BY THAT SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, IT'S A NICE TO BE OUTSIDE HERE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER

>> I WILL SAY THAT WE HAD PRELIMINARILY PLANNED FOR PARK STAFF TO DEMOLISH THE WALL, BUT THIS IS HEAVY MILLING SEASON, SO IF WE CAN CONTRACT THAT OUT, THAT'S HELPFUL TO US.

AGAIN, WE ANTICIPATE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE UNDER 25 INCLUDING CONTRACTING OUT THE DEMOLITION.

YOU WILL SEE PROGRESS, IT'S JUST, WE MAY HAVE SO MANY OUT THERE SOONER THAN OTHERS.

AGAIN, [BACKGROUND] I WOULD SAY, FOR SURE 68 WEEKS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING FOR A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS INCLUDING THE BATES PAVILION AND SOME OF OUR SHADE STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, SO THAT'S NOT AN UNREASONABLE TIME.

>> YEAH. COOL.

>> JUST DOING [OVERLAPPING].

>> THEN ARE YOU MAKING A RECOMMENDATION [INAUDIBLE]?

>> ACTUALLY, I WOULD.

I'M ALSO SENSING THAT MEGHAN WOULD APPRECIATE A SPINNING OF THE ENTIRE 50 OR 54.

THERE'S A LONG LIST HERE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS ONE.

I CERTAINLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD FUND THE PLAZA RENOVATION TO BE USED OUT OF OUR CONTINGENCY FUND.

[01:55:03]

>> HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE SPENDING THE 54,000 ON THE PLOT RECREATION CENTER PLAZA RENOVATION PULLING FROM FUND BALANCE, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

>> THERE'S A CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM.

>> OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

THERE'S YOUR MARCHING ORDERS ON THAT ONE.

>> ALL RIGHT. [LAUGHTER]. WE WERE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.

DO YOU-ALL WANT TO MAKE A PLAY ON SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S ON THE LIST WHILE YOU GOT US HERE?

>> SURE. [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER DOING THAT WOULD HELP, AND YOU GUYS DON'T LET ME SPEAK FOR YOU ON WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE, BUT WE HAD SOME ITEMS THAT WERE TAKEN OFF THE CARES FUNDING LIST.

SOME OF THOSE ITEMS INCLUDED FRONT DESK RENOVATIONS AND THEN ALSO THE POOL MANAGER OFFICE RENOVATIONS.

THOSE ARE BOTH LISTED ON THE ARC AREAS.

THAT'S ABOUT 15, AND YOU CAN JUST ROUND THAT UP TO 20.

>> SURE.

>> WITH YOUR BATES PAVILION, WE HAVE SURFACING GOING IN AND THEN WE'VE ASKED THEM OUR PILLARS BE SQUARED OFF SO THAT WE CAN ADD SOME MASONRY TO THAT, MAKE IT APPEAR AS THOUGH IT TIES IN WITH OUR PAVILION AT LAKESIDE.

[BACKGROUND] WHILE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COST IS, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD DEFINITELY SHOW THAT NOT ONLY IS THERE A NEW PAVILION, THAT IT IS ACTUALLY NEW BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW APPEARANCES OR SURFACING.

>> I LIKE BOTH OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT THAT I HAVE A REAL SAY IN ANY OF THIS.

BUT IF WE'RE SPENDING MONEY HIRING SOMEBODY AT THE FRONT, IF WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND AND DO THIS LITTLE EXPANSION, IF WELCOMING APPEARANCES ARE IMPORTANT, TO ME IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT YOU SPEND MONEY ON THE FRONT DESK, IN WELCOMING PEOPLE.

YOUR POOL PERSON, YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT THEM TO HAVE AN OFFICE SO THAT THEY CAN GET STUFF DONE.

THEN WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT OVER MULTIPLE MEETINGS AND MULTIPLE TIMES OF UNIFYING OUR VISION WITHIN THE PARKS.

BEING ASS OFF THE CUFF TO COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS, I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS..

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I NEED, I GUESS.

I SUPPORT THOSE AND I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE A MOVEMENT OR IF WE WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, IF I SHOULD MAKE A MOTION.

>> WHAT PAVILION WAS THIS AGAIN?

>> IT'S BATES PAVILION, SO THE ACTUAL PAVILION STRUCTURE.

TYPICALLY, CYLINDRICAL BASES.

WE'VE ASKED THEM TO SQUARE ROOT OFF SO THAT WE CAN ADD A STONE VENEER THAT MATCHES WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AT LAKESIDE.

>> BUT IT'S NOT ON HERE, RIGHT? [OVERLAPPING]

>> NO. A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, WE WOULD EITHER TRY TO DO OUT OF PARKLAND DEDICATION OR OPERATIONAL BUDGET BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH MINIMAL PRICES OR COSTS.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE MAY HAVE ALREADY SPENT IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK THE PAVILION WAS COMING.

BUT IN OUR PARK INFRASTRUCTURE, I BELIEVE WE ALREADY HAD BUDGETED FOR THE SURFACING, BUT WE PROCEEDED WITH A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS, SO WE MAY NEED SOME FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR THAT THIS YEAR.

>> OKAY. DO WE WAIT FOR THE BATES THING AND WE DEAL WITH WHAT'S ON THE LIST HERE?

>> WE CERTAINLY CAN.

>> JUST A TOUCH DIFFICULTY FOLLOWING UP ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED.

>> SURE. NOT A PROBLEM.

SO THE FRONT DESK AND THE POOL MANAGER OFFICE BEING IDENTIFIED HERE.

>> THAT'S 18?

>> I HAVE FONT DESK LISTED HERE AT 15.

>> YEAH, IT SAYS FRONT DESK 15,000.

>> 15. [BACKGROUND]

>> IT'S STAFF'S PREFERENCE THAT THE KITCHEN RENOVATION BE THE PRIORITY OVER THE FRONT DESK WHILE FRONT DESK IS ALSO NEEDED.

>> OKAY. WHAT WOULD THEY DO TO THE KITCHEN?

[02:00:01]

I AM ABOUT DONE ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT I'VE BEEN THERE.

I'VE RENTED IT, AND IT COULD USE [OVERLAPPING] A LITTLE OTHER STUFF, THAT'S WHY THE PREVIOUS THING- [OVERLAPPING]

>> BOTH AREAS ARE VERY MUCH IN NEED SO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NO TO THE FRONT DESK AREA EITHER.

I HELD OFF ON THE FRONT DESK JUST BECAUSE THE ROOMS IS A REVENUE GENERATOR.

LIKE YOU SAID, THE BUILDING IS 16 YEARS OLD, THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS REMIND MYSELF WITH EVERYTHING.

THE COUNTERS HAVE CHIPPED A LOT, THEY'RE NOT GRANITE COUNTERS, THEY ARE MORE OF LIKE A PLASTICKY MATERIAL.

[OVERLAPPING] EXCUSE ME?

>> LAMINATE.

>> THERE WE GO. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTERS ARE.

THE CABINETRY, JUST AFTER YEARS OF PULL, THE HANDLES HAVE FALLEN OFF, BECAUSE OF THE ICE MACHINE THAT WE ARE REMOVING AND WE'RE GETTING A DIFFERENT ONE UPDATE, THE DRAIN ON THE FLOOR HAS WARPED THE FLOOR.

[OVERLAPPING] THERE'S THAT AS WELL.

THEN, WITH JUST PAST WATER DAMAGE OF THE CEILING.

THESE ARE JUST DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I HAD ASKED.

LIKE YOU SAID, WITH IT BEING A REVENUE GENERATOR AND FOLKS COMING IN AND RENTING THAT SPACE, YOU WANT TO DELIVER A NICE PRODUCT, AND THAT'S WHY WHEN I HAD THE CONTRACTOR COME OUT AND DO THE DIFFERENT BIDS, I HAD PRIORITIZED THE KITCHEN, BUT THE FRONT DESK AREA DOES NEED TO BE UPDATED AS WELL JUST THAT WAS NOT WHAT I HAD RECEIVED AN ACTUAL QUOTE ON.

>> THE OTHER CONSIDERATION FOR PARKS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ASSOCIATION REQUEST, IS THE RESURFACING OF THE PAVILION, THE COMPLEX.

THAT AMOUNT COMES IN AT 20,000.

I REALIZED THAT PUTS US AT 35.

HOWEVER, WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO THE PLAZA RENOVATION FOR UNDER 25.

WE WOULD APPRECIATE MATCHING ORDERS FOR THOSE ITEMS IF WE CAN REACH IT WITHIN BUDGET AND THEN UTILIZE SOME OF OUR REMAINING PARK INFRASTRUCTURE OR PARKWAY AND DEDICATION FEES TO FINALIZE THOSE ITEMS.

>> I REALLY DO THINK WE JUST SHOULD FUND THE RESURFACING OF THE PAVILION AT THE SOCCER FIELD.

IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

PEOPLE SLIP AND FALL OUT THERE ALL THE TIME AND THAT'S A BIG RISK TO US.

>> HE CAME TO THE CENTER.

>> I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT.

>> ASC.

>> ASC?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY. RESURFACING PAVILION RIGHT THERE.

>> SHE CAME TO THE MEETING OF PARK'S BOARD AND THE SOCCER REPRESENTATIVE, AND IT'S LIKE I SAT THERE, THE SURFACE IS SLOG AND PEOPLE FALL DOWN.

>> KIDS RUN AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THERE'S WATER THAT ACTUALLY PUDDLES UP UNDERNEATH THERE.

RIGHT BY THE ENTRANCE WHERE THE SIDEWALK COMES IN, I GUESS IT RUNS OFF THAT SIDEWALK.

>> THAT CAN BE FIXED HOPEFULLY WITH SOME RESURFACING.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I WOULD BE INCLINED TO SAY WE NEED THAT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S A GOOD SAFETY ISSUE.

HOW MUCH MORE MONEY DO YOU WANT TO SPEND?

>> [LAUGHTER] WELL, WE'VE ALMOST SPENT OUR CONTINGENCY FUND.

>> YES, I DO BELIEVE WITH THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED, THE KITCHEN, THE POOL MANAGER OFFICE, AND EVEN THE BG PARK PAVILION SURFACE AND PLAZA RENOVATION, I THINK WERE- [OVERLAPPING]

>>WERE PRETTY OVER IF YOU'RE GOING TO LIST ALL THOSE [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THE PLAZA IS 25, RIGHT?

>> WELL, THAT IS MAX, WE DO BELIEVE WE CAN GET IT LESS THAN THAT.

IF WE HAVE A GROUPING OF ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO GET IT ALL WITHIN THE CONTINGENCY FUND BUDGET.

THOSE THAT WE CANNOT, IF YOU CAN HELP US PRIORITIZE THOSE- [OVERLAPPING]

>> I WOULD THINK WE NEED TO DO THE RESURFACING.

>> SURE.

>> THEN, I LIKE THE PLAZA, BUT THAT'S JOE SHCURMAN'S OPINION.

>> I'M STILL WONDERING HOW THE RESURFACING COST 20,000.

THAT SEEMS PRETTY STEEP.

>> WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THAT DOWN.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF VENDORS LIKE THE ONE THAT HAS DONE OR PROVIDED US SOME QUOTES FOR THE BATES PAVILION WAS UNDER 20.

AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE SAY THESE ARE ESTIMATES FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS BASED OFF OF PREVIOUS QUOTES AND IN RECENT QUOTES.

WE CAN CERTAINLY DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

A LOT OF THESE ARE LIKE ONE QUOTA, SO THIS ISN'T EVEN A COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS.

>> WHEN YOU SAY RESURFACING, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A THIN SET CODE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MATERIAL, WHETHER IT'S LIKE A CODEC, YOU PUT AROUND A POOL.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER LAYER, FOR INSTANCE, OF CONCRETE, IT'S JUST A MATERIAL TO KEEP IT FROM BEING SLICK.

>> IT IS A EPOXY NON-SLIP SURFACE [INAUDIBLE].

>> LIKE A TENNIS COURT?

>> YEAH. [NOISE]

[02:05:01]

>> LIKE COMMITTED TO YOUR GARAGE FLOORS BUT THIS IS A NON-SLIP SURFACE.

THEY HAVE TO PUT AN ADDITIVE IN THAT TO MAKE IT NON-SLIP.

>> WHAT JOHN WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, [NOISE] IN A PLACE WHERE IT PULLS WATER, YOU COULD ACTUALLY PUT A THIN COAT OF SOMETHING.

YOU CAN BUILD IT UP, THEN YOU CAN PUT EPOXIES OF THE WATER- [OVERLAPPING]

>> SELF-LEVELING AND THEN COME BACK IN.

>> IF YOU IDENTIFY THOSE, YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME BEFORE YOU PUT EPOXY.

>> LIKE MEGHAN SAID, WE JUST MAKE A PHONE CALL.

"HEY, WHAT IS SQUARE FOOTAGE? " WE WOULD NARROW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

WE'LL BROADEN OUR QUOTES, GET MORE QUOTE, AND BE MORE COMPETITIVE.

>> I GUESS THEORETICALLY THERE COULD BE A POSSIBILITY THAT WHOEVER IS WORKING ON THE PLAZA COULD ALSO DO THE KITCHEN AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A [NOISE] PACKAGE DEAL OR SOMETHING.

>> RIGHT. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT SAME THING WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF, WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE TIMING WOULD LINE UP WITH BG PARK PAVILION AND BATES PAVILION.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED A MOTION FROM THIS GROUP ON THE PROJECTS WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND YOU-ALL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING US SAY.

I'M HEARING US SAY THAT WE ARE MOVING TO RESURFACE THE PAVILION AT BG PARK.

ARE WE DOING THAT? [OVERLAPPING] THAT WE ARE DOING THE PLAZA AND THE KITCHEN RENOVATION AT THE REC CENTER.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE POOL MANAGER OFFICE?

>> OH, AND THE POOL MANAGER OFFICE.

>> OKAY. THOSE FOUR ITEMS, DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. THOSE FOUR ITEMS.

>> GREAT.

>> THE RC, THE BG PARK, THE KITCHEN AND THE POOL MANAGER'S OFFICE.

>> PERFECT.

>> WAIT A MINUTE. WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY PUT THE KITCHEN ON THE MOTION.

>> YEAH, WE DID.

>> YEAH, IT'S ON THERE.

>> I DID.

>> OH, OKAY.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING I'M MISSING? THE PLAZA?

>> NO, I KNOW WE DISCUSSED IT BUT I DIDN'T HEAR IT ON THEN.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GUYS.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> [LAUGHTER] YES.

>> SOCCER SEASON WILL BE COMING IN THE FALL.

THAT'S THEIR BIG SEASON TOO, SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE AT THAT TIME.

>> RIGHT.

>> I THINK THEY ARE STARTING MIDDLE OF AUGUST SOMEWHERE THERE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON AUTOMATE? MOVING TO 9, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON PARKLAND USE FOR FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT.

[9. Discussion and possible action on park land use for future park development.]

>> YEAH. STAFF IS MOVING FORWARD VARIOUS ACTION ITEMS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER NEW STRATEGIC PLAN, INCLUDING ADDRESSING SOME OF OUR LOW HANGING FRUIT.

SOME OF THAT IS LIKE STEWART MENTIONED, THE DEMOLITION OF THE MUNICIPAL POOL, REMOVING THE OBSOLETE ITEMS AT WELCH PARK, AND SO ON.

AS WE START DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS ALSO THE VETERANS GAZEBO BEING DEMOLISHED.

AS WE DO SOME OF THESE ITEMS, WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD AND FOR THE MUNICIPAL POOL, REUBEN'S WELCH PARK, VETERANS PARK, OFFICER CASH MEMORIAL DOG PARK, AND ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, THOSE WERE A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING.

WE'VE DEVELOPED A PRESENTATION FOR YOU JUST TO DO A LITTLE VISIONING EXERCISE WORKSHOP AS IT RELATED TO THE MASTER PLAN AND STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE HAVE IT HERE FOR YOU FOR YOUR INPUT, WE PRESENTED THE SAME ITEMS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD ON JUNE 14TH.

THE FOLLOWING INPUT WAS GIVEN JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THE MUNICIPAL POOL TO INSTALL A LARGE EPIC [NOISE] SPLASH PAD ALONG WITH THE PLAYGROUND UNIT, ENSURE SHADE STRUCTURES ARE PRESENT FOR RENTAL INCOME, EXPAND THE PARK TO OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTY AND POSSIBLY INCLUDE A DOG PARK IN THE SAME AREA.

WHAT THAT'S IN REFERENCE TO, IS THAT WE HAVE INITIATED CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION HALL, RIGHT NEXT TO THE OLD MUNICIPAL POOL SITE.

THEY HAVE A FIVE ACRE TRACK RIGHT BEHIND THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER DONATING TO THE CITY TO HELP US WITH A MATCHING GRANT FOR TPW, AND SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO ASSESS THAT.

WE JUST RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE SURVEY ON THE PROPERTY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A CONNECTION POINTS FROM THE MUNICIPAL POOL AND THAT FIVE ACRE LOT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD PATHWAY ACCESSIBLE OR ADEQUATE SPACE FOR THOSE.

VETERANS PARK DESIGNATE A SPACE FOR FEW TRUCKS, DEVELOP A PAVILION THAT IS FUNCTIONAL AS WELL AS A PIECE OF ART DOWNTOWN,

[02:10:01]

ENSURE THE STAGE IS COVERED, COMBINE LOWER RIGHT AND CENTER PAVILIONS AS POTENTIAL SOLUTION.

YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SLIDES AND NEED AMPLE SEATING.

REUBEN WELCH PARK DUE TO UTILITY CONSTRAINTS, CONSIDER THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OTHER THAN A BMX BIKE PUMP COURSE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE LARGE RESTROOM FACILITIES.

STAFF WILL BE COMING BACK WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CONCEPTS FOR ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS.

OFFICER CASH MEMORIAL DOG PARK, CONSIDER AN ALTERNATE LOCATION FOR DOG PARKS SO IT CAN BE EXPANDED AND PROVIDE AMPLE SPACE FOR LARGE DOG AREAS, REFERENCE DOG PARK STANDARDS FOR SPACE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS SIZE PARKS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES.

IF THE DOG PARK IS RELOCATED CONSIDER REDEVELOPING THE SPACE OFF OF KIBER AS A RESIDENTIAL PARK ACCESSIBLE TO RESIDENCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.

THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO EXPAND SERVICE OFFERINGS AND RATHER THAN HAVING A SPECIAL PARK DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATING THAT INTO A NEW ART DESIGN.

ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER INCLUDE OUTDOOR SUNBATHING, SEATING, AND ADDITIONAL WATER FEATURES AT A TRAIL LOOP, CONSIDER REWORKING THE EXISTING PARTY PAD AND REVITALIZE THE PLAZA FOR ADDITIONAL RENTAL INCOME WHICH WE'RE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD WITH.

THE ACTION ITEMS HERE RATHER THAN READING THIS TO YOU GUYS, THEY ARE REFLECTED IN THE PRESENTATION AND YOU CAN READ THOSE AT YOUR LEISURE.

I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THE PRESENTATION JUST SO YOU CAN GET SOME VISIONING GOING ON.

FOR THE MUNICIPAL POOL, ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS TO ASSESS WATER ACCESS.

WE'VE HEARD THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN THROUGH OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND JUST INPUT FROM RESIDENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT HAVING ALTERNATIVE ACCESS TO WATER AND CONSIDERING A SPLASH PAD.

WE'VE JUST GIVEN YOU SOME IDEAS.

WE'VE TALKED TO A PLAYGROUND VENDOR THAT ALSO DEALS IN SPLASH PADS.

THEY'RE WORKING UP A DESIGN FOR US TO JUST LOOK AT AND SEE THEIR DESIGN SERVICES ARE INCLUDED AND THEIR PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THINGS LIKE CIVIL OR TOPO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

CONCEPTS TO CONSIDER IF WE'RE ONLY RESTRICTED TO THE MUNICIPAL POOL SIDE IS JUST A PLAYGROUND SPLASH PAD COMBINATION AND PARKING AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CENTER ROW, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IS SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES PATHWAYS CONNECTIVITY, IT BREAKS UP THE TWO AMENITIES, BUT IT'S AN ACTIVE RECREATION ZONE AND THEN OF COURSE, JUST PLAYGROUNDS DOWN BELOW.

SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PARKS BOARD WERE IF WE WERE ABLE TO EXPAND TO THAT FIVE-ACRE TRACT, INCLUDE THINGS LIKE A PAVILION OUT THERE THAT EVEN THE AMERICAN LEGION GROUP COULD USE FOR BARBECUE COOK OUTS, WHICH THEY HAVE EXPRESSED AS A DESIRED INTEREST AND THEN ALSO A LOOP TRAIL YOU COULD EVEN COMBINE A DOG PARK OUT THERE IN THAT AREA TOO.

LOOKING AT VETERANS PARK, THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO CREATE SOME PLACE-MAKING DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH OUR LIVABLE CENTER STUDY.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE ACTION ITEMS ARE SUPPORTED BY THE LIVABLE CENTER STUDY.

REDEVELOPING THAT AREA.

YOU COULD PUT AN AMPHITHEATER STAGE OUT THERE WITH AN OPEN LINE, HAVE SOME INTEREST IN DIFFERENT VEGETATION, SEATING, LIKE WAS MENTIONED BY THE PARK'S BOARD AND THEN ALSO CREATING A PIECE OF ART.

LIKE YOU SEE AT THE PAVILIONS BELOW THE FAR LEFT IS A RENDERING OF OUR PAVILION THAT IS GOING TO BE ADDED.

LAKESIDE PARK, ONE THAT'S AROUND THE LOOP.

INCLUDING SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS, YOU CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TEXTURE LIKE THE CENTER PICTURE BY CHANGING THE ROOF STYLE SO IT LOOKS MORE AMPHITHEATER IN NATURE AND THEN EVEN JUST A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONCEPT IN CREATING A PIECE OF ART DOWNTOWN THAT HAS DIFFERENT LIGHTING INTERESTS.

>> EXCUSE ME, I'M DIMMING YOU UP TO [OVERLAPPING] BUT WELL, VETERANS PARK ALSO HAS SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING, SAY FROM HOTEL, MOTEL TAX OR SOMETHING TO?

>> POTENTIALLY. I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT AT THE PARK'S AND REC BOARD MEETING.

MAYBE YOU'VE BROUGHT THAT BACK. [OVERLAPPING].

>> IT MAY NOT BE HOTEL MOTEL.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING I THOUGHT THAT COULD GO TOWARD THAT BECAUSE OF THE JOINT USE OF IT.

>> YES, WE'LL LOOK INTO ALTERNATIVE FUNDING OPTIONS FOR THAT.

BUT YES, THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL AND SO MAKING SURE THAT HERE LIKE PARK'S BOARD MENTIONED, HAVING SOME FOOD TRUCK, UPS, AMPLE SEATING, MAKING THAT A DESIGNATED PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE ACTIVE DOWNTOWN WHILE COURT IS IN SESSION.

MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND EVEN SPECIAL EVENTS ON THE WEEKEND.

WELCH PARK, AGAIN, WE HAD INITIALLY PROPOSED SOMETHING JUST OUT THERE TO GET COMMUNICATION, GELLING WITH PARKS BOARD, A BIKE PUMP COURSE IN CONJUNCTION WITH ESCAPE PARK, WHICH IS IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND THIS IS A NON-USED FACILITY SITE BECAUSE THIS WOULD LIKELY ATTRACT QUITE A BIT OF PEOPLE.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE UTILITIES OUT THERE TO SUPPORT THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS AND BRING THIS TO YOU GUYS

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FOR SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION.

OFFICER CASH MEMORIAL DOG PARK, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN REVITALIZE WHAT IS EXISTING OR EVEN POTENTIALLY RELOCATE INTO ANOTHER PARK.

THE PARK THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE CURRENTLY REALLY DOESN'T MEET DOG PARKS STANDARDS, IF YOU WILL.

IF YOU GO THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES, PARKS DIVISION HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO JUST THAT AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY INCLUDED SOME OF THE PICTURES FROM SOME OF THE PARKS THAT WE VISITED AND SO THE CENTER LEFT IS A PICTURE OF SUGAR LANDS DOG PARK.

THEY HAVE A LARGE WATER AMENITY.

WE ALSO HAVE AN ACTIVE DOG PARK USER ON OUR PARKS SPORTS STEPHEN CIVIC AND HE PROVIDED US A LIST OF THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN REDEVELOPING THAT PARK.

HE'S ALSO ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAS CONTACTED SOME LOCAL INDUSTRY WHO HAS SAID THAT THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IF WE ACTUALLY DEVELOP A PLAN FOR IMPROVED PARK AND SO WE COULD GET SOME SPONSORSHIP IN NAMING RIGHT DOLLARS.

BUT PROVIDING AMPLE SHADE, WHETHER THAT BE STRUCTURES OR TREES, PROVIDING WATER AMENITIES MOVING FORWARD WITH BUMMING AND JUST DIFFERENT INTERESTING TEXTURES IN THE PARK RATHER THAN IT JUST BEING A FLAT SURFACE.

AGAIN, YOU SEE THIS CENTER AREA, WATER AMENITIES, THE DOGS LOVE IT AND THEN REALLY HAVING ENOUGH AMPLE OPEN SPACE SO THAT YOU CAN THROW A FRISBEE TO LARGE DOGS AND THEN RETRIEVE.

CREATING SOME INTEREST WITH EVEN TUNNELS THAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT AND THEN HAVING SOME DARK WASH CHAIN AREAS AS ANIMALS LEAVE THE AREA.

THEN THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, WAS ALSO A LONG-TERM PLAN.

WE JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME CONCEPTS THAT WE'VE SEEN AT OUR FACILITY AND PARK DOERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MENTIONED OR THAT ARE MENTIONED IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE MENTIONED IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ARE CENTRALLY PICTURED HERE.

AN INDOOR PLAYGROUND USE WHERE IT'S VISIBLE BY PATRONS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE FACILITY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A DAYCARE OR FIND ANOTHER POSITION YOU CAN HAVE AN ACTIVE RECREATION ZONE THAT IS VISIBLE BY PARENTS, EXPANDING THE FACILITY TO INCLUDE A DESIGNATED AEROBICS ROOM AND EVEN HAVE A WALKING TRACK ABOVE THE GYM OR THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

THE UPPER ROW IS ACTUALLY PICTURES OF STRAWBERRY WATER PARK IN PASADENA.

JUST ADDING SOME OUTSIDE INTERESTS AND EXPANDING THE DECK ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE RECREATION CENTER.

IF YOU GO IN THERE NOW YOU FIND THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A LOUNGER THERE WE HAVE CHAIRS TYPICALLY BECAUSE THE DEXTEROUS REALLY ISN'T LARGE ENOUGH TO SPREAD OUT AND SO JUST PUSHING OUT THOSE WALLS, HAVING SOME SUNBATHING OPTIONS AVAILABLE, EVEN PUTTING SOME MORE PLAY, A RECREATIONAL SPLASH PAD TYPE OF AMENITIES, LARGER SLIDES IF YOU SO WISH AND EVEN RENTING OUT SOME OF THESE CABANAS, IF YOU WILL, WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL INTEREST AND POSSIBLY GENERATE SOME REVENUE.

I WILL CALL A NICE PICTURED BELOW IN THE BOTTOM LEFT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS, LANDSCAPING, CONCRETE AMENITIES, STREAMLINING AND WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING THOSE IN THE PLAZA AND THE CENTER PICTURE IS ONE OF OUR EXISTING ADA PLAZA TABLES.

WE'LL BE PURCHASING A FEW MORE OF THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN AMPLE SEATING OUT THERE FOR RENTALS AND THEN LIKE YOU ALL MENTIONED, PROVIDING A WALKING TRAIL WHICH WE'LL HAVE TO DESIGNATE IT AT A LATER TIME ONCE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EXPANSION WILL INCLUDE.

THAT IS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, TRYING TO GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME TIME AND THINK ABOUT DIRECTION OR PROVIDE DIRECTION BACK TO US IN REGARDS TO WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN SOME OF THESE PARTS.

>> I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THE BOARD IS WORKING ON THE FREEDOM PARK AND THERE'S A PROPOSAL FOR AMPHITHEATER OUT THERE, BUT IS THAT ALSO WHAT YOU'RE IMAGINING FOR VETERAN'S PARK? I KNOW THAT CAME UP DURING OUR JOINT MEETINGS.

I KNOW TRAVIS MENTIONED THAT SOMEBODY ELSE.

DOES [INAUDIBLE] NEED TO, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO, BUT THAT COULD COME AT A PLAY WHAT YOU DO IN VETERAN'S PARK OR WHAT YOU DO IN THE FREEDOM PARK.

DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I JUST READ THIS RECENTLY AND I WANT TO SAY IT WAS WITHIN OUR EXISTING PLAN.

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WE DID HAVE MENTION OF HAVING MULTIPLE AMPHITHEATERS AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. I WILL SAY THAT.

I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THE AMOUNT OF SPACE SERVES DEFINITELY DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS.

WHILE I DEFINITELY THINK WE NEED SOME SORT OF STAGING PAVILION, WHETHER THAT ALSO DUALS AS AN AMPHITHEATER. I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, HOW THAT'S DESIGNED.

BUT I DEFINITELY THINK WE NEED SOMETHING DOWNTOWN FOR PART OF CHRISTMAS.

ALL THE OTHER EVENTS THAT WE HOST DOWN THERE, THE CONCERTS IN THE PARK, WHICH MAY EXPAND.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT EXPANSION, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO EXPAND CONCERTS OVER THE WATER AT LAKESIDE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT OPEN SPACE THERE.

YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT IN AMPHITHEATER, BUT IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.

SAME THING FOR FREEDOM PARK.

YOU COULD HAVE AN AMPHITHEATER THERE AS WELL THAT CAN SERVE QUITE A FEW MORE PEOPLE THAN VETERANS AND POTENTIALLY EVEN LAKESIDE COULD.

THE BENEFIT OF HAVING MULTIPLE, WHETHER THEY ARE SPECIFIED AS AMPHITHEATERS OR NOT, IS THAT AGAIN, YOU CAN SERVE DIFFERENT CAPACITIES FOR EVENTS, BUT THEN ALSO AS WE EXPAND, LIKE JOHN AND TRAVIS MENTIONED AND OTHER MEMBERS ON COUNCIL WITH YOUTH BASEBALL, SOME OF THE DESIGNS WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE CAN ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE THAT AMPHITHEATER AND STILL HAVE OTHER OPTIONS AT LAKESIDE AND AT VETERANS.

THOSE ARE ALL THINGS TO CONSIDER.

I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN OPINION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I DO THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE, BUT I WILL ALSO SAY ONCE YOU PUT [NOISE] AN AMENITY IN PLACE, TAKING IT AWAY IS HARD TO DO.

YOU FIND THAT EVEN WITH VETERANS BECAUSE EVA THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR HOWEVER LONG, WE DEFINITELY HAD SOME INPUT ON THAT.

WHILE IT WASN'T STRUCTURALLY SOUND.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> EXACTLY. ONCE YOU HAVE IT IN PLACE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S USED, IT COULD BE DIFFICULT TO THEN CHANGE THE USE.

THOSE ARE THINGS TO CONSIDER [OVERLAPPING] ON PROVIDING CORRECTION.

>> AT FREEDOM PARK, THE LOCATION OF IT, I WONDER HOW IT WOULD CONFLICT WITH BALL GAMES.

IF YOU'RE HAVING SOMETHING AT THAT VENUE AND IT'S LITTLE LEAGUE SEASON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LIGHTS AND THE NOISE THAT COULD CONFLICT WITH A VIDEO OF SOME WHATEVER WHO'S PLAYING IN THERE.

I GUESS YOU'D HAVE TO WORK AROUND THAT CONSTRAINT THERE THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK AROUND SO MUCH, I GUESS HAVING THE VENUE AT THE VETERANS PARK.

LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S ADVANTAGES TO BOTH THEM.

>> THE SOCCER COMPLEX MIGHT WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE TO HAVE A VENUE [OVERLAPPING], AT FREEDOM WHEN THEY'RE HAVING AN EVENT.

>> I THINK AT ONE TIME AND CHARLENE PROBABLY YOU CAN ADDRESS IT.

DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE A SMALL MILLER OUTDOOR THEATER, JUST A DARK MOUND IN A STAGE.

>> WHILE WE'RE DIGGING THE DIRT, WE'RE LIKE, HEY, LET'S JUST PUSH IT UP SO THAT PEOPLE COULD PUT UP THEIR BLANKETS AND SIT ON THE GRASS AND LISTEN.

WE WASN'T GOING TO BE [OVERLAPPING] RESTRICTED. YEAH.

>> ONE THING THAT I HAD MENTIONED TO CHRIS AT THE PARK'S BOARD MEETING IS ON OUR PARK TOUR WE WENT TO CITY IN MOUNT BELLEVUE AND IT'S CALLED CITY PARK NOT SIGNATURE PARK.

I APOLOGIZE IF YOU ENDED UP LOOKING THAT UP.

BUT IT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE PICTURES THAT I CAN SEND YOU GUYS.

IT'S JUST LIKE THE PAVILION.

IT HAS A CONCRETE STAGE, BUT IT IS OPEN GRASS AND IT HAS [INAUDIBLE] (PHONETIC) IN THE BACK WITH TREES.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S BACKSEAT WITH A POND FEATURE, WHICH IS ALSO GORGEOUS.

I'M NOT SAYING DO THAT IN FREEDOM OR WHEREVER, BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY MAKE IT AESTHETICALLY APPEALING WITH JUST [INAUDIBLE].

THAT WAS ALSO DESIGNED BY [INAUDIBLE] SO WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS.

>> WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ON THE INITIAL GO AROUND WITH FREEDOM PARK IS, AND PART OF IT IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE THE SHEER ACREAGE THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.

BECAUSE WITHOUT A DOUBT, YOU WOULDN'T WANT A STAGE IN SOMEBODY'S PERFORMANCE TO BE TOO CLOSE TO A BALL FIELD.

NOW, AS THEY'VE PLACED IT, WHICH TO ME SHOWED THEIR GREAT USE OF SPATIAL RECOGNITION, IS THAT IT'S AT THE END WHERE, THE FENCE WOULD BE, WHERE THE [INAUDIBLE] IS BEHIND WHERE THE STAGE WAS.

SO NOISE IS COMING THIS WAY FROM THAT STAGING.

BUT WHAT WE HAD ENVISIONED AS, HEY, WE GOT A BUNCH OF DIRT, WE CAN MOVE SOME DIRT AROUND, BRING IT UP THIS WAY.

THE INTENT WAS NOT FOR IT TO BE HUGE.

RECENTLY WE WERE AT SAN ANTONIO AND I LOVE HOW THEY'VE

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DONE THEIR LITTLE AMPHITHEATER ALONG THE RIVER WALK.

IT'S STILL GRASS SITTING EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE GOT STEPPING THEIR STONE STRUCTURES TO STEP UP SO IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTELY FLAT IF PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SIT.

ADA, OKAY. CAN SOMEBODY SAY, WELL, CAN I COME AND SIT DOWN, WELL NO, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO PUT SOME MINIMALLY CONSTRUCTED SEATS THAT THAN TEAR UP AS THEY GO THERE.

YOU CAN MAKE IT AS A LITTLE MORE FANCY, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE IT ALL CONCRETE EITHER, WHICH IS COMING FROM THEM.

>> THAT IS MUCH CHEAPER.

>> THAT'S A LOT CHEAPER.

FOR THE STAGE, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE ELECTRICAL.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE ELECTRICAL, YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME WATER.

THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THERE.

>> YEAH.

>> DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, ANY OF THESE AREAS, ANY DIRECTION YOU WANTED TO PROVIDE STAFF IN ADDITION TO PARKS COMMENTS?

>> I HOPE YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING GOOD FOR WELCH AT SOME POINT.

>> YEAH.

>> WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR DECADES [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE WILL DO OUR BEST.

>> SINCE THE BASEBALL LEFT?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION THAT ISN'T RELATED TO THIS, BUT SINCE WE'RE HERE AND TALKING ABOUT IT, WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK ARE YOU GETTING AND HOW WELL RECEIVED HAS THE FRISBEE GOLF?

>> IT'S BEEN AMAZING.

>> OKAY.

>> WE REALLY HAVE TO ACTUALLY KEEP IN CONTACT WITH THEM TO LET THEM KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN BATES WAS CLOSED.

OTHERWISE, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HUGE CLASH [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE EVERY WEEKEND.

>> THAT'S AWESOME. YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

>> WE'VE DEVELOPED A GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND WE COMMUNICATE WITH THEM FREQUENTLY SO THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR PARKS.

>> WHEN I SAID SOMETHING GOOD FOR WELCH, I DIDN'T MEAN EXPENSIVE.

>> [LAUGHTER] NEVER.

>> IT IS SO ISOLATED, BOUNCES AROUND LIKE SAY, DECADES.

IT'S A CITY PART, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE CITY PER SE.

WE ONLY HAVE WATER RUN TO IT BUT NO SEWER.

IT WAS A PROBLEM BACK THEN, ALL THE PARENTS DIDN'T LIKE GOING.

DROP OFF KID THERE, DRIVING ACROSS TOWN TO SOCCER COMPLEX AND IT WAS JUST SO ISOLATED.

>> THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A CATCH 22, IS BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE OUT THERE, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE IT SOMETHING GRAND, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE IT TOO GRAND WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE UTILITIES TO SUPPORT IT.

MAYBE IT'S THAT WE NEED TO REASSESS.

>> SOMETHING MORE NATURAL.

>> WELL, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SECOND ONE LIKE THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY USE FOR LAND.

THE AUSTIN COLONY.

>> I HAVE SOME IDEAS.

[LAUGHTER].

>> DO YOU HAVE THE JURISDICTION OF THAT? IS THAT PROPERTY GOING TO BE UNDER PARKS?

>> WE MAINTAIN IT.

>> I REALLY SHOULD BE COMING TO THE PARKS BOARD AND ABLC FOR SOME TYPE OF DISCUSSION.

I KNOW NOW THAT THE COUNTY GOT OUT OF THE PROPERTY AND I THINK OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A FIRING RANGE IN THE BACK THERE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, PROPERTY SITTING THERE DORMANT.

IT'S ANOTHER ONE, LIKE WELCH.

WAY OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE OF IT.

>> THAT'S WHERE MR. AUSTIN IS, RIGHT? STEPHEN F. AUSTIN?

>> NO. IT'S ACTUALLY [OVERLAPPING] NORTH OF TOWN, SOUTHISH IN [INAUDIBLE] RANCH SUB DIVISION.

>> YOU KNOW WHERE THE [INAUDIBLE] WATER TANK IS OUT THERE.

WHEN YOU GO IN BUSINESS STUDIO EIGHT , I ALMOST [INAUDIBLE]. JUST TO THE WEST.

>> IS THAT WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR LITTLE RE-ENACTMENT? I'VE BEEN THERE.

WE WERE REENACTING ONE YEAR AGO [LAUGHTER].

>> WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT UP AS WELL AFTER WE HAVE SOME MORE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ON HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH LAND USE.

>> ANY FURTHER ACTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE I WILL ADJOURN US.

>> THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.