>> [OVERLAPPING] BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP,
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
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DATED FOR TODAY, THE 10TH OF JULY.WE DO HAVE A FORMAL PRESENCE, SO FORTH ON THE ORDER.
[1. Discussion on the FY 2021-2022 Proposed Budget.]
MR. CHRIS HAVE A PLEASURE.[INAUDIBLE] MAY HAVE READ AS FAST AS THEY REPRESENT THE 2021-2022 ANNUAL BUDGET WITH THE NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR 2021-2022 IS APPROXIMATELY 48.7 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT SEVEN PERCENT DECREASE FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.
WE DO HAVE INCREASES IN THE BUDGET FOR PERSONNEL COSTS AND SERVICES, REPAIRS, AND MAINTENANCE AND PROJECTS.
BUT THE CAPITAL BONDS ARE GOING DOWN 8.4 MILLION, WHICH IS WHY THE TOTAL IS DECREASING.
THE BUDGET IS OBVIOUSLY SEPARATED SEVEN SECONDS.
I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THAT BEFORE TOO, BUT TODAY WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE MAJOR FUNDS, PRIMARILY THE GENERAL AND WHAT WE CALL THE WATER BEFORE I WANT TO START CALLING UTILITY FUNDS.
BECAUSE THEY REALLY HAVE WATER AND SEWER IN THE PLAN.
IT'S REALLY THE UTILITY BUT IT THE ENTERPRISES, THE BAD TERM BECAUSE WE GOT ENTERPRISE VEHICLES AND UTILITIES PROBABLY THE RIGHT TERM TO USE INSTEAD OF WATER DOES ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO THE GENERAL PLAN ASSUMED TO KNOW NEW PROPERTY TAX RATE AND THE WATER ASSUMES A RATE THAT INCREASED THAT WILL COVER THE ACTUAL REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE AND PROJECT COSTS THAT INCLUDED THERE AND ALL COSTS ARE ALLOCATED TO AIR TEACH BUTTON UP.
THE PROPOSAL I DID HAVE TO TAKE OUT $916,000 OF REQUESTED CAPITAL PROJECT IN THE GENERAL FUND TO MAKE EVERYTHING BALANCED.
WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE BECAUSE THOSE ARE IMPORTANT PROJECTS SO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE PROJECTS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS AND PICK OUT $625,000 OF PROJECTS IN THE UTILITY WATER PROJECT THAT ARE REALLY AND INDEED THESE ARE CRITICAL PROJECT.
WE'LL GO OVER EACH PROJECT SO WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN FIT SOME OF THOSE IN.
IN THE ALTERNATIVE, THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO RAISE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE TO A VOTER APPROVED RATE, BUT SET 0.665, IT WOULD BE 0.71.
THAT WOULD CREATE ANOTHER $500,000 OF REVENUE THAN DO.
THEN WE COULD FIT MORE PROJECTS IN.
BUT EVEN WITH THAT, WE STILL HAVE $435,000 OF PRODUCTS THAT WOULDN'T FIT.
THERE'S OTHER KEY NOTABLE FACTORS THAT THOUGH I WANT TO GO OVER WITH YOU BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET INTO THE BOOK.
WE WOULD EXPECT A VERY SIGNIFICANT HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE NEXT YEAR 15 PERCENT WHICH IS $261,000.
WE HAVE A COLUMN HERE AT ONE PERCENT RIGHT NOW, IT WILL GO TO THE MARKET, I ALREADY DIVIDED YESTERDAY IS THAT THE MARKET IS UP TWO PERCENT THIS YEAR.
WE'VE GOT ONE PERCENT IN HERE AS A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT $80,000.
WE HAD ALSO WE HAVE THE COMPLAIN THAT INCREASES INSTRUCTING EVERYONE THAT ANY NEW RANGES OR NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT BUDGET WOULDN'T START UNTIL APRIL THE FIRST.
THAT CUTS UP HALF THE COST OUT, SO INSTEAD OF THE COMPLAINT COST IS $325,000, WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET IS $162,000.
THAT COVERS THE WAY IT IS, AND THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASING BENEFITS BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE TAXES IN THE RETIREMENT THERE AS WELL.
>> YOU KNOW WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FOR REVENUE, THE COURTS MRI AND THEN ALSO SALES TAX, AND WHAT WE FIGURED IN THERE AS PART OF OUR REVENUE FORECASTS.
>> AS FAR AS WHAT PROPERTY TAX THAT DID HERE IS THE CURRENT RATE IS 40-45 AND IT LOOKS TO ME TO THE NORMAL RATE WE WERE HAVING.
WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THAT IN THIS ROUGH PAGE, WE DO HAVE AN INCREASE IN VALUES THAT'S ABOUT 10 PERCENT, THAT A $100,000,000, BUT SOME OF THAT IT'S PROPER PROPERTY SO IT WON'T CREATE NEW REVENUE.
PROPERTY TAXES AT THE NEW REVENUE WILL GO ABOUT SEVEN PERCENT.
>> YOU CAN ASSUME 100 PERCENT COLLECTION, YOU'RE CUT ALL THE TAXES, RESUME A 97 PERCENT OR 98 PERCENT AND GENERALLY YOU SHOOT FOR THE 97-98 BECAUSE GENERALLY THAT'S WHAT AT LAST IT WAS 103 OR SOMETHING.
>> YEAH, 98.5 PERCENT COLLECTION RATE IS WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET.
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BUT WE'VE EXPERIENCED 99 PERCENTAGE OR MORE.WE JUST GOT THE LETTER YESTERDAY FROM CHRIS IS 103 PERCENT, WHICH YOU CAN'T REALLY HAVE MORE THAN 100 PERCENT.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU'RE COLLECTING DELINQUENT TAXES ON PREVIOUS YEARS WHICH IS MILD.
>> THEN WHAT WAS THE SALES TAX HOME OR REUSE?
>> 10.5 PERCENT IS WHAT'S IN HERE.
BASED ON WHERE WE ARE THROUGH EIGHT MONTHS, WE'RE ONLY AT THE 4.5 PERCENT YESTERDAY.
HOWEVER, THE ROLLING 12 MONTH IS 10.5 PERCENT.
SUBMIT TO GET EVERYTHING TO BALANCE.
>> 2.5 PERCENT INCREASE OVER THE CURRENT YEAR SALES TAX.
THIS YEAR PLUS 10 AND AVERAGELY GOOD, THAT'S WHAT THE ROMAN AVERAGE IS.
IT'S IN 10 PERCENT INCREASE, RIGHT? THAT CAN BE DEBATABLE.
BUT THERE IS ONE BIG CHANGE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THAT I THINK WILL MAKE THAT MORE LIKELY TO OCCUR IF THERE'S A LAW CHANGE THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER 1ST.
THAT CHANGE SAYS THAT, "WHEN YOUR ATOM ARE ON AN APP OR ON THE INTERNET THAT THEY ACTUALLY SALES TAX IS GOING TO BE RECEIVED BY THE SHIPPING LOCATION WORKSHEET TO INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL SHIPPING POINT, WHICH IS THE REWARD." WE DON'T HAVE A REWARD ELSE AND SO THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO ADD A LOT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, BUT I THINK IT'S A BIG NUMBER.
>> I'LL DO IT OVER HERE BECAUSE [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE].
>> REMEMBER LAST YEAR WAS A WEIRD YEAR WITH COVID, WE THOUGHT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SALES TAX DROP.
THIS IS BECOME COMMON NORMALIZATION YEAR, I GUESS, TO DO A LOT OF THINGS.
>> HOW DID ONLY REVENUE RATE AND THE SAME TAX RATE AS BEFORE WITH PROPERTY TAX VALUES GOING UP?
>> OR YOU JUST ASSUME THAT IF IT'S THE SAME RATE.
AT THE END OF JULY, WE'LL GET THE ACTUAL CALCULATIONS AND THEN THEY'LL TELL US WHAT THE RATE WILL BE.
UNTIL WE HAVE A BETTER RATE WITH WHOM LASH WE'LL CONTINUE.
>> I GET THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE MENU REVENUE, RIGHT?
>> BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I FEEL LIKE IT'S CONSERVATIVE.
I THINK THAT I'VE ONLY GOT 458,000 OF TAXES IN HERE RELATED TO THAT TAX.
ONLY A SEVEN PERCENT INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING UP.
AT 10 PERCENT, THERE'S THAT THREE PERCENT GAP THERE THAT'S CONSERVATIVE.
BECAUSE WE'RE USING 98.5 PERCENT, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO COLLECT MORE THAN THAT.
BUT I THINK THE REAL NUMBER IS GOING TO BE GREATER THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
I THINK THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
AGAIN, THAT 10 PERCENT THAT'S WITHOUT ADJUSTMENT.
[NOISE] COST VALUE THAT'S ADDED.
THEN PEOPLE GO BACK AND PROTEST AND RIGHT NUMBER WILL BE THE LAST.
THAT IS WHAT THE ORIGINAL APPRAISAL VALUE IS ONE BILLION TO 33 BILLION.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR, THERE WERE MORE PROTESTS LAST YEAR THAN EVER BEFORE BECAUSE OF COVID AND PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THEIR PROPERTY VALUES, WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN.
BUT THERE WAS ONLY SIX MILLION DOLLAR DIFFERENCE, AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY REDUCED IT BY WAS LESS THAN 0.5 PERCENT.
IT WAS VERY LITTLE. IT WILL GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WON'T BE MATERIALS.
>> SIX VARIABLES IN OUR TEXTS.
>> JUST AN ARROW. BY THE GETTING ORIGINAL NUMBER WAS ONE BILLION 127, AND THEN IT WENT DOWN THE 141.
THE FINAL NUMBER, IT ONLY WENT DOWN AND IT WAS LESS THAN A 0.5 PERCENT.
LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS MORE PROTEST LAST WEEK, THEY HAD LOGGED MUCH PROTEST.
BUT THE VALUE IS DIFFERENT WHEN THEY RE-EVALUATED IT BECAUSE THEY APPRAISE EVERYTHING AT JANUARY 1ST, SO BY LAW THEY COULDN'T EVEN CHANGE IT BASED ON SOME FACTS OR PRACTICE SHAPES THAT COULD CHANGE THE APPRAISAL.
THEY FELT LIKE YOU WOULD COME BACK, IF THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE REALLY GOING TO GO DOWN TO IT WOULD HAVE CAME BACK THIS JANUARY.
BUT THEN IT WENT UP AGAIN, SO THE VALUE DIDN'T DROP LIKE PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY MIGHT ON THAT YEAR.
SO ONE OF THE OTHER CHANGES WE DID FROM BUDGET LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR WE HAD NO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
SO WE HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
AS WE TALK THROUGH THE BUDGET WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WE WILL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
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SOME OF THAT JUST FOR THE DOLLARS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON COST BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT ARTICULATING NEEDS.WHETHER IT IS BUDGET CHANGE OR WE GET SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING, LIKE THE ARP OR WHATEVER THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND SAY, "HERE'S A PROJECT OFF THE SHELF THAT WE HAVE, OR WE GET A GRANT OR SOMETHING ELSE." SO TO TAKE IT WITH THE [INAUDIBLE], WE SENT TO P&Z, IT'S GONE TO DIFFERENT VARIOUS FORUMS AND TALKED ABOUT IT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP THAT LONG RANGE.
NEED TO PLAN, I GUESS IS A BETTER WORD FOR IT.
IF THERE WERE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, WE'D LIKE TO SEE LOOKING AT THE SAFE THEN SAYING, WELL, "HEY, WE FOUND ANOTHER SPACE FOR $50,000 AND HERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN PLUCK OFF THERE AND PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET.".
WE DO HAVE THAT FIVE-YEAR PLAN IN THE BACK OF THE BOOK AND WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW THAT TODAY ALONG THE PROCESS.
PATRICIA REALLY DESERVES CREDIT FOR THAT.
SHE'S DONE A LOT OF WORK TO PUT THAT TOGETHER, APPRECIATE THAT.
YOU'LL SEE IT'S IN A FORMAT THAT'S USER-FRIENDLY AND I THINK IT'LL BE A LOT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND REVIEW.
THEN OF BUDGET THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW TODAY'S THE HEAVY DAY.
WE CAN ADJUST THE SCHEDULE IF WE'RE CRUISING THROUGH AND WE WANT TO MOVE SOMEONE UP OR WHATEVER, THE REMAINDER OF THE BALANCES ON TUESDAY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SMALLER DEPARTMENTS AND SO IT SHOULD BE, IN THEORY, AN EASIER BUDGET DISCUSSION OR IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION HERE, WE CAN REHASH THAT ON TUESDAY, LIKE "HEY, WE MET WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS AND WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHATEVER." WE CAN READDRESS THAT QUESTION WITH YOU ALL AFTER DOING SOME RESEARCH OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S WHY WE TOOK THE TUESDAY MEETING, WE PAIRED IT DOWN AND POWERED ON THE MONDAY STUFF, SO THAT WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO TALK ABOUT IT AND NOT FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN AN EXTREMELY LONG MEETING AGAIN.
>> OKAY. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING OR SOME COMMENTS?
>> EXCITED TO BE HERE. [LAUGHTER].
>> I'LL JUST SAY THIS IS YOUR MEETING.
I MEAN THAT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO KNOW THERE IS NO [NOISE].
THE ONLY STUPID QUESTION I WOULD SAY IS THE ONE THAT WE DON'T ASK.
IF YOU DON'T ASK THE QUESTION, WE CAN'T [INAUDIBLE], AND THAT'S HOW I OPERATE.
I'M HERE TO HELP YOU, PROVIDE WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO KNOW AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.
BUT SOMETHING HERE, THIS IS A NEW PROCESS, AND WE DEVELOPED THIS FROM SCRATCH THIS YEAR, SO IT'S DEVELOPING.
IN THE FUTURE IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD GOING FORWARD, YOU CAN ADD IT.
YOU CAN PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT OR WHATEVER IS BEST FOR HELPING EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND.
[INAUDIBLE] TO GO LINE BY LINE AS ROWIE TALKS ABOUT THE BIG CHANGES AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND GET FEEDBACK.
SO LET'S JUMP INTO THE BOOKS SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE THERE.
THE FIRST PART THAT'S BEFORE ANY FUND, IS REALLY SUMMARY INFORMATION OR THINGS THAT APPLY TO MORE THAN ONE FUND, OR IT'S JUST OVERALL INFORMATION.
JUST WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE THERE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE THE BREAKDOWN BY FUNDS RIGHT AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY IF YOU FLIP PAST THE MANAGEMENT, YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL BREAKDOWN BY FUNDS.
THIS TELLS YOU THAT OVERALL IT WAS DECREASING TO 7.27 PERCENT BUT YOU COULD SEE THAT THE CAPITAL BOND GLANDS ARE GOING DOWN 8.4 MILLION.
THOSE ARE JUST THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPLIT THOSE BOND BUDGET AND THAT'S WHAT'S LEFT AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S THE REASON OVERALL WE'RE GOING DOWN BY 3.8 MILLION AND 7 PERCENT.
THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, THAT ACTUALLY GIVES YOU THE COMPARISON OF THE TAX RATES.
THE PROPER TAX RATES TO ALL THE SURROUNDING CITIES THAT CLOSE TO US IN BRAZORIA COUNTY.
WHAT IT TELLS YOU IS THAT AT AVERAGE WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE AS FAR AS AVERAGE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE I&S RATE, OUR I&S RATE IS ONLY AT 0.08.
NOBODY HAS THAT LOW RATE AND THE AVERAGE IS 0.19, WHICH MEANS A LOT OF THE OTHER CITIES ARE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND DEBT SERVICE THAN WE ARE BY DOUBLE,
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BASED ON THE I&S RATES THAT THEY HAVE.>> THERE'S SOME ABNORMALITIES, IF YOU REMEMBER LAKE JACKSON, THEY'RE HEAVILY SALES TAX DEPENDENT AND SO WHEN SALES ARE GOOD, THEIR BUDGET'S HEALTHY AND THAT'S HOW THEY FUND A LOT OTHER STUFF.
I THINK JACKSON YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HEARD THAT LAKE JACKSON'S GOING UP ON THEIR TAX RATE.
>>I GUESS, TO TAKE IT A STEP BACK, THE ANSWER IS TO TALK ABOUT IT.
LAKE JACKSON IS OBVIOUSLY ANOMALY WHERE THEY COULD HAVE A VERY LOW PROPERTY TAX RATE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR, I COMPARED IT TO OURS, AND WHAT IT SAYS IS THEY HAVE 7 MILLION MORE DOLLARS OF REVENUE THAN WE DO BUT THEY COLLECT LESS PROPERTY TAXES THAN WE DO.
WHERE THEIR MONEY COMES FROM, THEY HAVE 5 MILLION MORE FROM INDUSTRIAL.
THEY HAVE INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
OUR INDUSTRIAL NUMBER IS 100,000, THEIRS IS 5 MILLION.
THEY HAVE TWICE AS MUCH SALES TAX AS WE HAVE BUT THEY HAVE MORE BUSINESSES, WHICH CREATES MORE VALUES TOO.
SO WE HAVE 15 MILLION BASE FIGURE LAST YEAR, WE ARE ON ADVANTAGE AT 22 MILLION.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY CAN HAVE A LOWER PROPERTY TAX RATE AND LOWER RATES OTHERWISE.
>> YEAR AFTER YEAR, I'LL PROBABLY EXPLAIN THAT A BIT MORE.
A LITTLE TAIL TO USE GOOD THING AND YOUR TAX DOLLARS DOWN THERE, SPEND THEM HERE, WE GET TO USE THEM.
THEY'RE GETTING TO USE OUR MONEY BUT IN HOUSTON YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEM WITH ENVY.
[OVERLAPPING] WELL, EVERYBODY TO ORDER ONLINE.
[LAUGHTER] SO IN THE ECONOMIC REALM OF THESE, YOU'LL SEE LATER TODAY WHEN MARK BRIEFS, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SHIFT A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARDS INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL RECRUITMENT.
WHEN YOU PUT $5 MILLION ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GET $0.5 MILLION FOR HOUSING AND STUFF, I MEAN, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY PLUS THE JOB CREATION AND SPURRING RETAIL DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO WE WANT TO TRY TO BRANCH TOWARD COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SO WE CAN DO THAT.
I SENT YOU ALL AN EMAIL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE STRATEGY AHEAD FOR US.
BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE THESE INDUSTRIAL FOLKS A LOT MORE ON THE WATER RATES AND THEY'RE GOING TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING FOR DISADVANTAGED FOLKS, IF YOU WANTED TO ROLL THAT INTO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, ALL THAT STUFF REALLY HELPS US AS A CITY.
THE NEXT PAGE IS ACTUALLY THAT THIRD [INAUDIBLE], THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBER I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, [NOISE] HERE'S ALL THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS FOR ALL THE JURISDICTIONS IN [INAUDIBLE] .
THE SECOND ONE FROM THE TOP, WHICH SHOWS WE HAVE A 10 PERCENT INCREASE IN OUR VALUES PROJECTED.
THAT'S THE VERY NEXT PAGE RIGHT AFTER THAT ONE.
WERE PROJECTED BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS AT 10.02 PERCENT, ALL [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY IS 8.82 PERCENT, SO WE'RE SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE AS FAR AS VALUES INCREASES.
>>THAT'S WHY AM STILL STUCK ON THIS WHOLE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
WHERE VALUES ARE GOING AT 10 PERCENT.
WOULDN'T ATTACH WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT AN AVERAGE TO THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE A 10 PERCENT INCREASE.
THEY KEEP THE SAME TAX RATE, WE ARE COLLECTING MORE REVENUE.
>> SO THAT'S NOT A NEW REVENUE.
I EXPECT IT TO BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THIS IS NEW PROPERTY.
IF IT'S A NEW PROPERTY THEN WE'RE STILL GOING TO GET THE FULL AMOUNT.
>> BUT THE CURRENT PROPERTIES WILL HAVE NO NEW REVENUE, BASICALLY.
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT 112 IS, SO UNTIL WE GET THE ACTUAL NUMBER, THE BEST NUMBER IS TO USE IS LAST YEAR'S NUMBER.
I THINK I'VE BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE AND CALCULATIVE WITH THE COLLECTIONS AND I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN 458 AND WHEN WE DO THE ACTUAL CALCULATION.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THE 500,000 THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
>> REMEMBER, WHAT WE [INAUDIBLE] IN THIS WHOLE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS YOUR WIN FROM ONE PERCENT TO TWO PERCENT.
[BACKGROUND] ABOUT THE TAXPAYER,
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VALUES KEEP GOING UP AND I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU WERE TRYING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE SOME.>> THERE WAS A MINIMUM ON THERE, WORST AMONG HAVEN'T.
DOING FROM ONE PERCENT TO TWO PERCENT WOULDN'T REALLY AFFECT THEM AS MUCH BECAUSE THAT MINIMUM WAS.
IT WAS $4,000 AS FAR AS GOING FROM ONE TO TWO BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE WE'RE STILL [OVERLAPPING] WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> OKAY, LET'S KEEP SCROLLING THROUGH THE FIRST PAGE.
I ASKED MY FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO GET THE PAGE WITH THE BLUE HEAD IN THE FIRST ONE.
THAT'S A FEW PAGES [INAUDIBLE].
THIS IS RATES ABOUT 0.08 ON DEBT SERVICE.
IF WE WERE TO JUST ASSUME A POINT 0.10, WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE, WE WOULD HAVE SOME MORE DEBT CAPACITY, AND SINCE OUR RATE IS GOING TO BE GOING DOWN SLIGHTLY ANYWAY BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES ARE GOING UP, THEN THE RATE WOULD PROBABLY STAY CLOSE TO THE SAME.
IF WE HAD A 0.10, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DEBT SERVICE RATE BECAUSE THIS WOULDN'T AFFECT THIS YEAR, BUT THIS WOULD AFFECT THE COMING YEAR BECAUSE EVERYTHING ON DEBT SERVICE IS REALLY A YEAR BEHIND.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR IS BASED ON OUR CURRENT DEBT.
BUT IF WE WERE TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 0.10, INS REGULAR AND BOLD.
WE WOULD HAVE A DEBT CAPACITY OF APPROXIMATELY $13 MILLION RIGHT NOW 13.7 MILLION, WHICH COULD BE DONE LATER THIS YEAR.
IF WE WENT TO 0.10, WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE $19 MILLION. THEN IT GOES UP FROM THERE.
BUT IF YOU REALLY GOT TO THE HIGHEST RATE OF 0.15 AND THE AVERAGE IS POINT 0.19, WITH 27 MILLION AND 0.18 IS 35 MILLION.
I JUST ASKED HIM TO TELL ME THAT SCENARIOS IF WE DID THOSE THINGS.
>> WHEN YOU BURN YOUR TAX RATE A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH DEBT SERVICE, THAT ESPECIALLY BECOMES A FIXED COST THAT YOU HAVE TO INCUR EVERY YEAR.
RIGHT NOW OUR BUDGET FLUCTUATES A LITTLE BIT BASED ON PROPERTY TAX VALUES, WHEREAS IF THE M&O RATE CAN MOVE A LITTLE BIT DEPENDING ON WHAT WE FIND AND WHAT WE DON'T.
WHEN WE PUT THIS IN, WE'RE HAMSTRINGING EACH OF COUNCIL'S [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] WITH THIS DEBT SERVICE, THIS LEVEL, SO WE CAN'T MOVE THE TAX RATES MUCH.
>> THE ONE THING I SEE IS THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND THE SERVICE CENTER.
WE'RE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF DRAWINGS AND CONCEPTUALIZING, AND THAT'S NOT IN STONE.
IT'S JUST A CONCEPTUAL THING AND FIGURING OUT A COST.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE IT FORWARD AND WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE NEW HOUSE BUILDING, IT WAS 1869 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN SPEND COS ON WITHOUT VOTER OR WITH VOTER APPROVAL AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THEN THE SECOND PIECE IS, SO REMEMBER WE STARTED A POTENTIAL TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD OR THE FUTURE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, FIX OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT THAT'LL HAVE TO START HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO AND THOSE THINGS.
THE ARP CAME IN AT WITHIN 4.8 MILLION NOW, OF WHICH WE'LL GET HALF THIS YEAR AND A HALF NEXT YEAR.
THERE'S AN [INAUDIBLE] WATER TANK REHAB, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TRANSFER LINE TO PICK THOSE NICE PROJECTS THEN BECAUSE THEIR NEEDS PER [INAUDIBLE] ON INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT BURDENING BUDGETS OR BORROWING MONEY AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THE WATER TANK, WE'RE LOSING MAIN GALLONS A MONTH IN NOT ONLY WATER LOSS BUT, FUTURE REVENUE.
THAT TANK IS BUILT IN THE 50S, IT'S GOT SIX CRACKS IN IT AND IT'S LEAKING FROM BELOW.
AGAIN, WE THINK WE MAY HAVE FOUND IT.
WE CAN TOAD IT AND IT WILL LAST ANOTHER 20 YEARS INSTEAD OF SPENDING THE $5 MILLION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BREAK STUDY FOR REBUILDING THE NEW TANK.
WE'LL BRING THOSE FORWARD FOR DECISIONS FOR YOU ALL AT SOME POINT.
BUT YOU CAN'T LOSE THE MILLION GALLONS CAPACITY, THAT HURTS US SIGNIFICANTLY.
>> I DON'T WANT TO DERAIL THIS [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] YOU'VE IDENTIFIED A MILLION GALLONS OF MASS LEAKING
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OUT OF [INAUDIBLE] TANK [INAUDIBLE].>> WELL, I MEAN IT HURTS ITS FULL CAPACITY THOUGH.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. WE'VE GOT TO PLUG THE HOSE.
>> THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS REHABILITATION THING WHERE THEY COME IN AND SPRAY IN THE LINER AND DO SOME OTHER STUFF.
>> DON'T WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT WE TAKE SO MUCH WATER A DAY FROM BWA, SO EVEN IF WE'RE LOSING IT, WE'RE STILL HAVING TO REPLACE IT DAILY AND WE'RE STILL GETTING CHARGED THE SAME AMOUNT.
>> WELL, WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR 1.8 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
IF WE DON'T TAKE IT, IT ROLLS OVER TO THE NEXT MONTH, WE CAN TAKE IT LATER.
>> WE CAN TAKE IT, BUT WE'RE STILL GETTING CHARGED THE SAME AMOUNT.
>> RIGHT, WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THAT AMOUNT, THAT'S 658,657 MILLION A YEAR.
>> BUT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT A YEAR.
BUT IF WE DON'T USE IT THIS MONTH, WE CAN USE IT NEXT MONTH.
>> BUT IN EXCESS, LIKE AREN'T WE TAKING EVERYTHING PLUS USING MORE WATER? ARE WE DOING THAT? [OVERLAPPING].
WILL SHE BE ABLE TO TAKE EVERYTHING?
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING. BUT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAVEN'T TAKEN AT ALL.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH BWA FOR THAT 657 MILLION.
WE ALSO PUMPED 63 MILLION GALLONS ABOUT 10 PERCENT FROM OUR WELL.
BUT THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAVEN'T TAKEN THAT WHOLE 657.
WE'VE TAKEN ALMOST ALL OF IT, LIKE 645.
IT'S REALLY CLOSE, BUT WE HAVEN'T GONE OVER IT. WE ARE PUMPING FROM OUR WELL.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM IN THE GAP THERE.
BUT THE CHALLENGE IS YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DRINKING IT OUT OF THE HOSE, YOU WANT TO BE DRINKING OUT THE BUCKET BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE WATER.
IF THAT HOSE CUTS OFF FOR A DAY OR TWO, YOU STILL GOT WATER CAPACITY.
>> DO WE HAVE [NOISE] A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THIS MILLION GALLONS IS COSTING US?
>> I THINK JOHN PETERSON DID A QUICK CALCULATION.
I THINK IT'S 50,000 A YEAR, SOMETHING.
>> I'M SAYING IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINT [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT'S SOMEBODY'S JOB, THOUGH. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
>> WELL, WHEN WE SAY WATER IS VALUABLE.
>> WE'RE PAYING FOR IT AND WE'RE PUTTING IT IN THE GROUND.
>> TO ME IT'D BE ABOUT WATER QUALITY.
FIXING QUALITY FOR THE CITIZEN SO THAT WATER THAT YOU GET NOW SOMEBODY SHOULD GET NEW.
>> YEAH. I GET THE REALNESS ON THAT THAT.
I JUST WANT TO QUOTE 500 MILLION.
>> WHEN I FIRST READ YOUR POST I THOUGHT IT MAY HAVE BEEN SYSTEM-WIDE BUT IF IT'S IDENTIFIED RIGHT THERE.
>> YEAH, SO WE COULD HAVE THE BOTTOM ATTACHED.
>> WELL, NO. IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS, PROBABLY TWO YEARS NOW.
BUT THEN AGAIN THAT TANK'S AT THE END OF REALLY IT'S SERVICE OF LIFE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE RATE STUDY.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING A $5 MILLION PROJECT TO REPLACE THAT TANK.
BUT I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH A MORE COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION.
IF WE CAN, AGAIN, RE-BLUE IT, WHICH WOULD GIVE US 10 TO 20 YEARS, THEN WE CAN DEFER THAT PROJECT AND GO ONTO SOMETHING ELSE IF- WE ALSO NEED [INAUDIBLE].
WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE PUBLIC ORDER SPEECH.
OKAY. [NOISE] YES. TMRS IS THE NEXT PAGE, ACTUALLY WE'VE GOT A FAVORABLE RATE.
OUR NEW RATE FOR NEXT YEAR WILL BE 11.88 PERCENT, WHICH WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY THE 1ST.
DISCOUNTED RATE IS 12.28 PERCENT.
THAT WILL GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND SO OUR BLEND NEXT YEAR WILL BE ABOUT 12 PERCENT TO 11.88.
RELATED TO THE NEXT PAGE, THAT TELLS YOU THE GENERAL STUFF THAT WE HAVE, IN THE WAY WE SET IT UP THIS YEAR, IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMON INPUT BAIT THAT ACTUALLY [NOISE] LINKS TO ALL THE BUDGET FILES SO THAT THEY'D SPARK AND DIDN'T HAVE TO CALCULATE THEIR TAXES OR THE RETIREMENT.
IT AUTOMATICALLY CALCULATES FOR THEM BASED ON THIS.
IF I WANTED TO CHANGE THE COLOR FROM ONE PERCENT TO SOMETHING ELSE, I CAN CHANGE IT HERE AND THEN IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY LINK THROUGH ALL FILES.
THAT'S THE THINGS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, THE HEALTH HAS JUST GONE UP 15 PERCENT.
THAT'S COMMON DATA. NEXT PAGES.
COLLIN PROVIDED YESTERDAY THAT THE MARKET FOR WAGES IS TWO PERCENT FOR BOTH PRIVATE [NOISE] AND PUBLIC SECTOR.
THE NEXT PAGE IS SOMETHING WE PROBABLY HAD TO COME BACK TO.
THIS IS THE ACTUAL COSTS THAT ARE, IN THE GENERAL, THAT REALLY OUGHT TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE UTILITY FUND.
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FOR EXAMPLE, THE UTILITY FUND CANNOT OPERATE WITHOUT FINANCE.IF WE DON'T PAY THEIR BILLS, THEN THEY CAN'T OPERATE, BUT THEY CAN OPERATE WITHOUT HR.
HR. IF THEY DON'T HAVE PEOPLE HIRING.
HIRING PEOPLE IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
THEY CAN'T OPERATE. THEY CAN'T OPERATE WITHOUT THE CITY'S [INAUDIBLE] THEY GOT TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
THEY GOT TO GET THINGS UP AND THEY CAN'T OPERATE WITHOUT COUNSEL.
AND THEY GOT TO HAVE A LEADER THE ADMINS GOT.
WHAT THIS SAYS IS THAT WE ALLOCATE THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF CALLS FOR ADMIN, CITY COUNCIL, THE SECRETARY, HUMAN RESOURCES, AND WE DID IT BY DIFFERENT METHODS.
HR IS BASED ON EMPLOYEE COUNT.
SO THEY GET 22 PERCENT OF EMPLOYEES THAT WILL ALLOCATE 22 PERCENT TO WHEN I ALLOCATE IT'S HALF.
IN THE MISCELLANEOUS THINGS, I MEAN, WELL, BASIC THINGS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN FINANCE.
WE'VE GOT PERSONNEL 25 PERCENT BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT HALF OUR TIME, BUT THE SUPPLIES ARE 25 PERCENT, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE SERVICES, ALL THAT'S 25 PERCENT, AND THEN THIS LAND IS 10 PERCENT.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT'S GLEN SAYS ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF ITS PROJECTS OR RELATED.
SO WE ONLY ALLOCATED 20 PERCENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
BASED ON THAT, THESE ARE ACTUAL EXPENSES THAT THE GENERAL IS PAYING THAT REALLY OUGHT TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE UTILITY FUND.
WELL, WE CAN GET BACK TO THAT ONCE WE GET TO THE ACTUAL NUMBERS IN THE GENERAL UTILITIES.
>> NOW, WHAT WE GOING BACK TO? [LAUGHTER]
>> EVERYBODY HAD BEEN COOL ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S OKAY. WE CAN DO [NOISE] IT ANYWAY.
THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE ACCEPTABLE WAYS TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT.
NOW WE HAVE TO GET TO THE GENERAL AND EVERY ONE OF THESE SEVEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDS IS GOING TO HAVE A TABLE OF CONTENTS.
THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS JUST, LOOK AT THE TABLE OF CONTENTS, FIGURE OUT WHAT PAGE NUMBER WE NEED TO GO TO AND THEN LET'S JUST GO TO THAT PAGE.
BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL NUMBERED AND ALL OF THEM DIFFERENT.
I WANT TO START WITH THE CHART.
WOULD WE GO TO PAGE 4 IN THE GENERAL.
THAT CHART TELLS YOU WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM, IN GENERAL REVENUES AND BASICALLY 43 PERCENT WE DABBLE ON OUR PROPERTY TAXES AND 22 PERCENT IS SELF TAX.
THOSE TWO TOGETHER 65 PERCENT THERE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF WHERE OUR MONEY COMES FROM IN THE GENERAL FUND, THESE OTHER ONES ARE SMALL, LIKE WE ONLY HAVE FOUR PERCENT OF THE TAX AND THAT'S WHERE THAT INDUSTRIAL IS.
IN FRANCHISE, THAT WOULD BE A LOT OBVIOUSLY A LOT BIGGER NUMBERS SIMILAR TO OTHER PLACES.
THE 12 PERCENT THAT'S GARBAGE IS ACTUALLY IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR US.
THAT'LL TELL YOU WHAT OUR EXPENSES, THE CHART ON OUR EXPENSES ON PAGE 8.
[NOISE] THIS TELLS YOU WHERE WE SPEND OUR MONEY.
THIS IS THE EXPENDITURES AND THE GENERAL FUND ON PAGE 8.
THIS 33 PERCENT IS PD, TWO PERCENT ANIMAL SERVICES AND FIVE PERCENT PRIVATE [INAUDIBLE], 40 PERCENT WE SPENT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, PRIVATE WORKS IS NINE PERCENT, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE, THAT YOU CAN JUST GOT TO GO WRONG.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICE SEVEN PERCENT, PARKS IS SEVEN, AND THE OTHER ONES ARE TWO, THREE PERCENT.
WHAT'S THE 13 AGAIN? THAT 13 IS NON DEPARTMENT AND THAT BIG NUMBERS GARBAGE IS IN THERE.[OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
SO IT'S REALLY THE GARBAGE EXPENSES.
>> CHRIS THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DISPLAY THE INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE IT.
A PICTURES WORTH A 1000 WORDS.
[LAUGHTER] IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A PILE LIKE THIS.
PERSONNEL COSTS, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE COSTS.
>> RIGHT. AND WE CAN ADD THAT NEXT YEAR. YES.
>> CAN WE SHOW THAT ON TUESDAY? [LAUGHTER].
>> AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, I DID.
THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN RIGHT HERE. [LAUGHTER]
>> EVERYBODY GET ONE? WE CAN PULL IT UP. BUT THAT GIVES YOU YOUR BREAK DOWN RIGHT THERE OF GENERAL FUND BY THOSE PERSONNEL AND ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES.
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>> WHICH BASICALLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
>> RIGHT. PERSONNEL COSTS HAVE GONE UP 600,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND.
[NOISE] BUT, I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE BREAKDOWN THAT 260,000 IS BASICALLY THE HEALTH INSURANCE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT, YOU HAVE MORE THAN 350.
WELL, WE HAVE FIVE NEW POSITIONS IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT'S IN THE BUDGET, SO WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE, AS PART THAT WE HAVE THE COLA WHICH 80,000, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TOPIC THAT WHEN YOU PUT IT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, I DIDN'T ASK FOR PAY WHEN WE STARTED THE YEAR, [OVERLAPPING] IT'S GOING TO FLOW IN THE NEXT YEAR.
>> CAN YOU GIVE ME THE NUMBER AGAIN ON HEALTH INSURANCE?
>> I WAS ESTIMATING THOSE TO BE ABOUT 280,000.
[NOISE] BECAUSE ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE THERE THE WHOLE YEAR BECAUSE THIS IS THE PARKS TO US.
I DON'T KNOW THE POOL UNTIL APRIL 1ST.
THEN THERE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PART-TIME POSITIONS IN THERE.
WE ADD ALL THOSE UP, IT'S ABOUT 280.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT'S IN THERE.
>> DOES IT DIRECTLY ACCOUNTS FOR MEMBERS SWAG IT WAS IN THE COST OF 75,000 ANNUALLY? I REMEMBER THE IMPLEMENTATION COST OF 100, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS LOWER THAN 75.
I KNOW THE BIG NUMBER, SINCE YOU'RE GOING FOR [OVERLAPPING] AN ANNUAL BUDGET.
WE SPENT 100,000 OUT OF THEM TO START UP.
THE 25 OF THAT WAS THE START-UP COST, AND 75 IS ANNUAL MAINTENANCE.
THIS YEAR CAME OUT OF CARES, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT NEXT YEAR WE HAVE [OVERLAPPING] MAINTENANCE AT 75,000 AND THAT'S GOING TO BE EVERY YEAR, WHICH THERE IT'S REALLY NICE BUT IT IS EXPENSIVE.
>> EACH COST TO MAINTENANCE IS THAT UP?
>> WHILE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE IS 75,000. I GET IT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THE IMPRESSION THAT ONLY EXTENDS WITH THE COST OF THE MEETING AT $250 PER MEETING.
>> THAT'S HOW I'LL REMEMBER, AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE 35,000.
>> WE GOT THE BILL, THE ONE THAT WE JUST PAID [OVERLAPPING] SEVERAL DOLLARS OUT HERE AND THERE.
>> PLEASE, WHICH I LAST SAW IT THEN I WENT.
>> YEAH. I DIDN'T [NOISE] KNOW THAT IT WILL CONNECT.
>> TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND GIVES US A LOT OF SIDEWALKS STREETS AND OTHER THINGS DONE, STREETS-RELATED, THAT'S [NOISE] IMPORTANT.
>> [NOISE] TO KEEP US ON THE AGENDA, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SUMMARY ITEMS, AND THE NEXT THING TO TALK ABOUT WAS ABOUT THE ADMIN DEPARTMENT.
[NOISE] ADMIN THERE STARTS ON PAGE 9 AND 10.
[NOISE] CHRIS HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF SETTING THE PRECEDENT HERE WITH A NEGATIVE 40 PERCENT DECLINE [LAUGHTER] IN ADMIN.
>> WHOLE CLEVER ACCOUNTING JOB.
THAT'S ALL RIGHT, DUDE. [LAUGHTER]
>> WHICH I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS IS AN OVERALL DECLINE, BUT IT'S SCARF IS REALLY IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS NOW.
[BACKGROUND] FOR EXAMPLE, WE MOVED $100,000 OF ENGINEERING THAT'S BEING DONE FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THESE DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT REALLY OUGHT TO BE MANAGED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICE, SO WE MOVE THAT OVER THERE.
THERE'S ALSO 50,000 ATTORNEY FEE THAT IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY THAT WE MOVED THERE.
THEN THESE OTHER COSTS THAT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE, LIKE THE LIBRARY CONTRIBUTION, THE EMF CONTRIBUTION.
IN THE PAST, WE WERE GIVING $78,000 TO EMF, THE BUDGET'S 95, BECAUSE THAT'S THE AGREEMENT WE HAD, AND THEN REGIONAL TRANSPORT, 41,000, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT DON'T REALLY BELONG TO ADMIN UNTIL THERE WHEN YOU'RE BRINGING OVER.
>> YOU MOVE INTO THE NON DEPARTMENTAL OR?
>> TWO ITEMS MOVED TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THOSE WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, EVERYTHING ELSE MOVES TO NON-DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S PART OF THAT 30 PERCENT THAT'S WITH THE GARBAGE.
IT'S IN THERE WITH THE GARBAGE IN NON-DEPARTMENTAL.
>> BY THE WAY, [NOISE] WHEN WE GET TO THE GULF COAST TRANSIT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT BUDGET LINE, I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
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>> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HAVING QUESTIONS THERE? THAT'S WHAT THE BIG CHANGES ARE AND IT'S ACTUALLY DECLINING BY 40 PERCENT.
>> YEAH, YOU'RE MOVING A LOT OF THIS OUT.
ARE YOU MOVING THE REVENUES THAT MIGHT CORRESPOND WITH IT?
>> BUT IT'S MOVING TO GENERAL.
[OVERLAPPING] THE REVENUE IS IN TOTAL FOR THE GENERAL, BUT THESE ARE THE DEPARTMENT EXPENSES.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING FROM ONE DEPARTMENT, STILL IN THE GENERAL.
THE REVENUE IS STILL COVERED. IT'S THE SAME REVENUE.
>> ADDITIONAL. ONE THING I REMEMBER IN OUR PRIOR BOOKS, DIDN'T BROUGHT IT WITH ME, THAT CITIES TO HAVE REVENUES FOR EACH DEPARTMENT AS WELL, REVENUES EXPENSES FOR BOTH.
>> NOW, PER DEPARTMENT, WHICH YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU DO THAT BY FUND; GENERAL FUND.
>> RIGHT, [OVERLAPPING] BUT I REMEMBER HE WOULD SPECIFY IT IN.
>> BUT LIKE THE A&M WE DON'T HAVE REVENUE.
>> MOST DEPARTMENTS DON'T HAVE REVENUE.
THERE'S VERY FEW OF THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOCATE THE PROPER SETS.
WE JUST SAID THAT MOST OF THE MONEY [INAUDIBLE] ALGORITHM.
YOU MOVED OUT TO THE LEGAL SERVICES FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS, OVER THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES?
>> WE HAVE A BILL FOR ENGINEERING.
INSTEAD OF PAYING IT OUT AS REVENUE WE'RE GOING TO PAY IT OUT IN DEVELOPING SERVICES.
IT'S JUST AN EXPENSE MOVING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER.
>> RIGHT. BUT YOU STILL HAVE REVENUE THAT THEY WILL PAY YOU.
>> THAT'S THE ONE DEPARTMENT THAT ACTUALLY HAS A REVENUE AND THEIR REVENUES IS INCREASING.
IF YOU LOOKED AT THEIR REVENUE UP THERE, IT'S GOING UP AND 750 TO A MILLION, SO THEY ARE INCREASING 250,000 IN REVENUE AND THAT'S BUILDING PERMITS AND CONSULTING REVENUE.
>> YES, THAT'S ONE DEPARTMENT.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE DID THAT, SO WE COULD SEE EXPENSES AND WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING [OVERLAPPING] VERSUS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN.
>> YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING INTO THE FACT THAT WE DO COLLECT SOME MONEY UPFRONT THAT WE DO HAVE, THAT'S GROWTH FUND, THAT WILL WE COLLECT SOME CARE MONEY UPFRONT FROM THEM.
WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY USING THAT FOR ENGINEERING AND EXPANDING, BUT I THINK [NOISE] THESE ARE COSTS.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT 150,000 AND TAKE IT IF THEY ASK US, BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT $100,000 THAT WE ALREADY HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE COLLECTED [NOISE] FOR THOSE THINGS.
THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE PARK MONEY. WE'VE GOT SOME PARK MONEY.
>> BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, CAN WE USE SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS OUT OF THAT?
>> YEAH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WERE GOING TO SAY THERE FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
>> THE CAPITAL, OKAY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. THAT MEANS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT OUR DATA SOURCE.
[NOISE] LET'S LOOK AT THE DATA SOURCE AND FIND OUT REAL QUICK, IT'S TOWARD THE BACK, IT'S RIGHT AFTER SPECIAL, THAT SERVICE PART RIGHT BEFORE THE CAPITAL PROJECT.
[NOISE] THESE ARE ON OUR SCHEDULE AND IT'S NOT CHANGING MUCH.
YOU CAN SEE THREE MILLION, FAIR BUDGET.
DEPRESSIVE BUDGET IS THREE MILLION.
THAT'S JUST BASED ON OUR CURRENT DEBT.
IF YOU FLIP BACK TO GET THE SCHEDULE PAGES, [NOISE] WHERE IT SAYS GENERAL FUND DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS THEORIES, FLIP TO PAGE 4.
[NOISE] LIKE I SAID, DEBT SERVICE RIGHT NOW IS NOT [BACKGROUND] TAKING ANY DEBT RIGHT NOW.
ALL I WANT TO POINT OUT THERE [NOISE] IT IS DECLINING.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW, LAST YEAR OUR TOTAL DEBT SERVICE FOR GENERAL, WHICH GENERAL BELT STREET BONDS, AND THERE WAS 974,000.
IT WENT DOWN TO 913 IN 2022, WHICH IS $61,000.
IT'S NOT GOING TO REALLY CHANGE THAT MUCH IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, BUT IT IS GOING DOWN 61,000 THERE, [NOISE] WHICH HAS LED TO THE FREE BONDS.
THEN ON PAGE 6, ABLC IS GOING DOWN $68,000.
[NOISE] THAT'S $130,000 OF ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT COULD BE USED FOR DEBT SERVICE AND STILL STAY THE SAME AS WE ARE NOW.
I THINK ABLC FUNDED SOME PART PROJECTS THERE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON DEBT SERVICE?
>> ABOUT THAT 160, IS SOMEWHAT ON THAT EXPENDITURES OF THE MONEY WITHIN, MONEY OUT OR? [OVERLAPPING]
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IT'S IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND AND IT IS AN EXPENDITURE, THAT'S MONEY THAT'S GONE OUT THE DOOR TODAY THAT'S GOING TO BE DECLINED.
>> WE'LL HAVE AN EXTRA CAPACITY OF $130,000 THAT IF WE ISSUE NEW DEBT, AND IT WAS A $430,000, IT WOULD INCREASE OUR BUDGET.
BUT OF COURSE, THE WAY WE VIEW THE DEBT, YOU'VE GOT TO SPREAD IT OVER, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY YEARS, AND TERM AND YOU BALANCE IT OUT WHERE YOU WANT TO PAY ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT PER YEAR [NOISE].
AT THAT POINT, WE ARE ACTUALLY TO MEGAN, THE PARKS.
[BACKGROUND] YOU ALREADY GOT THE PARKS? IS SHE OUT THERE? [BACKGROUND] [NOISE]
>> GOOD MORNING. [OVERLAPPING] [NOISE]
>> YOU'VE GOT THE WHOLE TEAM THERE, LOOK AT THAT.
MAKE SURE YOU LOVE THE COMPANY.
[LAUGHTER] [NOISE] WE'LL START WITH PARKS.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN I DON'T KNOW. [OVERLAPPING]
>> LET'S GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE IN GENERAL 31.
>> MEGAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT AND IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE IN DIFFERENT PLANS, WE START WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
>> ON PERSONAL SERVICES, SOME OF THE MAJOR CHANGES ARE IN SALARIES THAT WAS FOR THE NEW AD POSITION.
WE ALSO HAVE AN INCREASE IN CERTIFICATION.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME OTHER WAYS WITH PROFESSIONAL CERTIFICATIONS, INCLUDING THE ADDITION OF WHO HAS SEVERAL.
THAT HAD TO INCREASE FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION CERTIFICATION PAY.
PHONE ALLOWANCE, THAT INCREASED AS WELL.
WE HAVE TWO CREW LEADERS, SUPERINTENDENT DIRECTOR IN AD WITH PHONE ALLOWANCE.
THOSE ARE REALLY THE MAJOR INCREASE THIS YEAR IN PERSONAL SERVICES.
IN SUPPLIES, THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE HERE WE HAD A VEHICULAR INCREASE IN OUR VEHICLE SUPPLIES, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH ADDING TOOLBOXES TO THE NEW ENTERPRISE FLEET THAT WE'RE GETTING.
WE SHOULD SEE SOMEWHAT OF A DECREASE ONCE WE'RE FULLY EQUIPPED IN FUTURE YEARS.
REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, WE HAVE AGAIN, A VERY SMALL INCREASE IN R&M INFRASTRUCTURE FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, BUT I HAVE THE ALL HOMES THING.
>> OH, I'M SORRY, I WAS LOOKING AT LAST YEAR. THAT'S CONSISTENT?
>> YEAH, YOUR CURRENT BUDGET. [OVERLAPPING]
>> TWENTY-FIVE. THE TOTAL ON SERVICES, WE HAVE ADDED A LINE ITEMS FOR [NOISE] UNFORTUNATE CHANGE ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
WE DID PURSUED SEVERAL GRANT ADMINISTRATION LAST YEAR, AND SO WE'RE PLANNING ON PURSUING FOUR GRANTS THIS NEXT YEAR.
HOWEVER, IF WE DON'T UTILIZE GRANT ADMINISTRATION, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR DESIGN OF LIKE VETERANS, FOR POOL.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS OBVIOUSLY THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, THESE WOULD ASSIST WITH THAT.
>> LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MONEY IN THERE.
MEGAN MOVE FORWARD COUPLE GRANTS AND FEW OTHER THINGS.
BUT WE WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL ON THE END OF THESE GRANTS, RIGHT?
>> YOU'RE GOING AFTER FOUR MORE GRANTS THIS YEAR?
>> WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD GRANT ADMINISTRATOR, WE HAVE PATTY WHO IS ALREADY WORKING WITH US AND HELPED US A LITTLE BIT WITH THE LAST YEAR'S GRANTS BECAUSE SHE IS REALLY MORE OF AN INTERNAL CONTRACTOR.
I FEEL LIKE SHE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALREADY.
WE'VE HELD A MEETING WITH THE DPW TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR DEFICIENCIES WERE IN OUR LAST GRANT.
WHEN WE PURSUE IT AGAIN, WE HAVE DEFINITELY A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING AWARDED SOME OF THOSE.
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SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE INTEND TO APPLY FOR ARE NEW TO OURSELVES.HAVING HER ON TRACK AND HELPING US WITH THAT WILL DEFINITELY HELP.
AGAIN, IF WE DON'T USE IT FOR GRANT ADMINISTRATION FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES JUST LIKE YOU SEE IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE WOULD SOLICIT HELP FOR DESIGN FOR MUNICIPAL HALL OR VETERAN'S PARK.
>> WE MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT ADA TRANSITION STUFF.
THAT'S A CHECK IN THE BOX ON A GRANT THAT WE HAVE A PLAN.
THAT HELPS WITH POINTS IN COMPETITIVENESS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
>> YOU'LL SEE THAT [NOISE] SPECIFICALLY FOR US, WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON ADA TRANSITION AND IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, IT REALLY IS.
BUT FOR US TO MAKE ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC ITEMS, WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE PROJECT TO DO CITYWIDE.
WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN [INAUDIBLE] MEETING TO LET THEM KNOW HOW PRESSING IT IS, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARKS AND THE REC CENTER, WE'VE GOT TO GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS AND START MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT BECAUSE IT WILL HELP WITH GRANTS AND JUST INCLUSIVITY FOR THE CITY AND OUR RESIDENCE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PLAN TO PURSUE THIS YEAR.
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO SEND THAT PACKET OUT FROM KIMBERLY.
>> YEAH, YOU GOT IT. I CAN SEND THAT.
>> STREET ANALYSIS, [OVERLAPPING] ENGINEERS GRADING, THE SIDEWALKS, AND THE ADA RAMPS AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF DETERIORATION OR MOBILITY.
>> IF THAT PERSON WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT EITHER.
THAT PERSON'S GOING TO HAVE TO UTILIZE ALL THE RESOURCES IN THE CITY, INCLUDING ENGINEERING AND EVERYBODY ELSE [INAUDIBLE] AS WELL, RIGHT?
>> WELL, THE PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD HIRE ARE SPECIALISTS, BUT OF COURSE YOU CAN FIND A CONSULTANT IN TEXAS, BUT YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT SPECIFICALLY DEAL IN ADA TRANSITION PLANS, SHE REALLY IS. THAT IS HER EXPERTISE.
>> SOME OF THE MODERN PRODUCTS YOU GET AS A GIS OVERLAY.
[OVERLAPPING] INCLUDING YOUR BID OF WHATEVER THAT YOU CAN DO [INAUDIBLE] COST OFF OF, AND THEN THAT BECOMES PART OF THE CIP PLAN.
WE CAN ALSO USE IT FOR THE SIDEWALK AND HIKING BIKE.
[OVERLAPPING] YOU CAN SHOW THE GAPS BETWEEN PARKS, YOU CAN SHOW ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT OUT OF THIS.
>> SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP REDUCE SOME OF THE COSTS BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU'RE TALKING CITYWIDE ALL OF THE ISSUES, WE MIGHT NEED TO DO SOME SELF-EVALUATION THAT CAN DO STEPS ON OUR END TO BEGIN RECOGNIZING AND ASSESSING WHAT OUR DEFICIENCIES ARE.
WE CAN TELL YOU ON OUR PURPOSES AND THEN OUR FACILITY THINGS THAT WE ALREADY RECOGNIZED AS PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KNOCK OUT, AND WE CAN DO THAT DEPARTMENTALLY, THAT THAT'S THE WHOLE PROJECT AT TIMES WHERE WE COULD BE HAVING SOMEONE WHO SPECIALIZES IN IT COME AND DO THAT FOR US.
>> [INAUDIBLE] MAINTENANCE STATE AT 15K.
[OVERLAPPING] IS THAT [INAUDIBLE] BETWEEN THREE DIFFERENT PLACE.
>> WE TELL THEM EVERY YEAR THIS USED TO BE $2,000.
IF YOU LOOK IN A THREE-YEAR HISTORY, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE TRY TO BUMP THAT UP.
I THINK WE DID FOUR LAST YEAR AND THEN WE TRIED TO DO THE YEAR PRIOR.
THIS YEAR IT'S 15 AND WE'VE MAINTAINED 15.
NOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO INCREASE THAT THEY WON'T COMPLAIN.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF PROJECTS, AS MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN.
WE HAVE MAINTENANCE ISSUES IN PROJECTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED BY THE ASSOCIATIONS, THE PARKS AND THE REC CENTER, AND IT'S WELL OVER $3.1 MILLION.
WHEN WE START LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT WILL HELP US TO ADDRESS THEM UP FOR THEM.
BUT IT'S GOING TO MAKE A VERY SMALL DENT.
>> MAYBE IN THE SCHEME OF, WE HAVE SERVICE CENTER, WE HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS ONTO THAT.
WE CHUNK IT PARKS AND RECS, WE CHUNK IT LIKE ORGS, OR WHATEVER TO FIX SOME OF THESE DEFICIENCIES.
WE HAVE MISCELLANEOUS CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.
WE CAN BREAK THAT DOWN FOR YOU BY PROJECT INFRASTRUCTURE, A COUPLE OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS OUR YEAR 2 [INAUDIBLE].
I BELIEVE TRAIL WALKING WITH TRAIL, BG PECK, PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT, WE HAVE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PLAN NOT ONLY FOR OUR REC CENTER WAIT ROOM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE IT FOR THINGS LIKE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, WE'RE WORKING ON DEVELOPING IT FOR ALL OF OUR ASSETS.
BUT THAT IS A PROCESS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE,
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BUT WE DO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR OUR PLAYGROUND SYSTEMS, SO BG PECK IS UP FOR REPLACEMENT.ONE THING THAT WE RECOGNIZE AS THE STAFF IS IN YEARS PAST, IT'S LIKE WE'VE PURCHASED ALL OF OUR PLAYGROUND ONE YEAR IN ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT PARKS.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO LESSEN THE BURDEN ON REPLACEMENT IS SEPARATE THOSE SO THAT I'M ASKING FOR $150,000 ONE YEAR RATHER THAN 1.5 MILLION.
WE'RE TRYING TO STRETCH THAT OUT AND CREATE A MORE STRATEGIC REPLACEMENT PLAN.
>> ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE WE HAVE RENOUNCED, THE PARKLAND.
>> DEDICATION, WHICH WE'RE USING QUICKLY.
[LAUGHTER] ONE OF MY, IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS IN THE BUDGET WHEN WE ARE DOING OUR STAND REVIEW WAS DISCUSSING THAT I WOULD PAY FOR 50 PERCENT OF THE REPLACEMENT OF PARKLAND'S DEDICATION TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE MANAGEABLE FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
AGAIN, WE BUDGETED 150 TO 75,000 AND THAT WILL BE COMING OUT FOR PARKLAND'S DEDICATION.
>> ON THAT 170,000 THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING, DO YOU HAVE THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL 170?
>> WASN'T LAST YEAR, A ONETIME DEAL WHERE WE WERE SAYING WE JUST NEEDED THIS FOR-
>> IT WAS [INAUDIBLE] PLAYGROUND [OVERLAPPING].
OTHERWISE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO YOU WITH MULTIPLE PLAYGROUNDS IN ONE YEAR.
>> THAT IS THE CASE. THAT WE'LL START THERE.
THAT WILL BE REPLACED FOR ANOTHER 15, 20 YEARS.
>> IS THERE A PLAYGROUND IN THIS OTHER FIELD?
>> [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST [INAUDIBLE] PARK. [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, I KNOW. IF YOU'RE EVER OUT THERE ON ANY GAME DAY.
>> GAME DAY OR EVEN PRACTICE, TUESDAYS, THURSDAYS, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE SIBLINGS GO [OVERLAPPING]
>> BABY SITTER? [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE GETTING A CUT OF THE 13,000 [INAUDIBLE] THAT OUR SECOND YEAR CONTRIBUTION FOR THE SOLAR LIGHTS.
DID WE SAY WAS 25 OUR PORTION? SO THAT LINE ITEM 25, THE SOCCER COMPLEX.
I THINK WE HAVE THE WHOLE LINE IN HERE, DON'T WE? OF 15.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH IT.
SO FAST FORWARD, I HAD LISTENED TO YOUR PROPOSAL FROM CATS ACADEMY RIGHT OFF OF WALKER.
THERE, WE HAVE A PEACH DETENTION AREA, THAT IS WOODED AND PORTIONED.
THEY'D LIKE TO HELP US MAINTAIN AND DEVELOP THAT SO THAT THE KIDS AT CATS ACADEMY CAN WALK OVER, DO SOME NATURE OUTDOOR SCIENCE, JUST LEARNING.
WE ARE LOOKING TOWARDS HAVING A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH AISD FOR THAT.
>> PARTNERING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON CATS ACADEMY, NOW IS THE CHANCE TO NEGOTIATE FOR THAT PROPERTY NEXT DOOR FOR EXPANSION OF THIS [INAUDIBLE]. WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
>> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, JUST RIGHT CONVERSATION HERE.
>> SO IT'S A THREE-PHASE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE OUTLINE.
WE HAVE ESTIMATED PROBABLE COST OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IN ORDER FOR IT TO MEET OUR MINIMUM PARK STANDARDS.
THE FIRST YEAR IS NOT TO [INAUDIBLE], SECOND YEAR IS A BIT MORE BECAUSE WE WILL BE ADDING IN A WALKING PATH.
THEN THE THIRD YEAR, THEY DROPPED BACK DOWN.
>>MAINTENANCE. SO THAT [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH, IS SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US MAINTAIN.
>> WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO GET A NATURE, KIND OF A [OVERLAPPING].
>>RIGHT, EVEN BY THE DETENTION AREA, WE PLAN TO DO JUST LIKE A WILDFLOWER SEEDS DISTRIBUTION.
SO THAT THE WHOLE AREA, WHICH IS REALLY BIG, THESE GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH PITCH DETENTION.
WE HOPE TO MAKE THAT A LARGE WILDFLOWER PATCH IN SPRING, AND THEN HAVE A BUTTERFLY GARDEN WHERE THE WOODED AREA IS, IF THEY WANT TO BUILD BIRD BOXES, AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THEY ARE GOING TO HELP US MAINTAIN THE [INAUDIBLE] GARDEN.
WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE HERE? THE OTHER EQUIPMENT, CAPITAL EQUIPMENT IS FOR A LARGER, NEW MOWER AND TRAILER.
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>> I ASKED THAT QUESTION THE OTHER DAY AND SAID, I THOUGHT Y'ALL HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT YOU NEEDED AND YOU SAID YES.
>> WE'LL THIS IS ANNUAL [OVERLAPPING].
[OVERLAPPING] THE NUMBER OF HOURS WE PUT ON THIS [INAUDIBLE], I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ANNUAL REPLACEMENT OF THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT IS, THAT THE TRAILER WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THREE [INAUDIBLE].
>> HOW MUCH IS BELIEVED YOU [INAUDIBLE] PLAYGROUND?
>> THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BACK DOWN, AND [INAUDIBLE] CAME IN AT 158744, AND WE CAN TRY TO REDUCE THAT WITH JUST A DIFFERENT [INAUDIBLE] STRUCTURE.
I'LL PASS THAT AROUND SO YOU GUYS CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT.
THEN WE HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
HERE'S PEACH DETENTION TOO, JUST THAT PROBABLE COST.
BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO [INAUDIBLE] THAT.
>> THAT LARGE DETENTION PHASE WILL BE JUST A WILDFLOWER PATCH.
YOU CAN SEE THE LOOP TYPE OF TRAIL THAT WILL CREATE FOR THOSE USERS AND THEN BUTTERFLY [INAUDIBLE], MAINTENANCE OF THE LINE.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARK [INAUDIBLE] ONTO RIGHT AWAY?
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS JUST US DEVELOPING DETENTION WHILE YOU MAINTAIN CURRENTLY.
>> [INAUDIBLE] WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE TIMELINE?
>> I'VE SEEN IT. BUT I KNEW [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK THIS ONE'S A NATURAL. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO CROSS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD A LITTLE BIT.
>> ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AN INTERLOCAL?
>> WE WILL HAVE [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] [BACKGROUND]
>> [OVERLAPPING] LET'S MOVE TO RIGHT OF WAY.
>> [NOISE] WHICH PAGE DEBRA IS [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT'S 42. IT'S THE LAST PAGE IN GENERAL FUNDING.
>> HERE WITH PERSONAL SERVICES WITH YOU, WE ARE RECOMMENDING TWO NEW POSITIONS WITH INCREASE IN MAINTENANCE FOR THAT PART WHEN IT COMES ON BOARD.
WE PROPOSE THESE POSITIONS TO BEGIN IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND SO THAT WOULD BE FOR MAINTENANCE CREW LEADER AND THEN JUST ANOTHER CREW MEMBER.
WHAT IS ACCOUNTED FOR HERE IS REALLY ONLY THREE MONTHS OF SALARY.
>> YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT AWAY STARTING IN [OVERLAPPING]
>> SURE. I'M NOT SURE IF I PUT IT ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ON YOUR MAJOR SHEETS HERE, BUT WE WENT OUT FOR RFP FOR CONTRACT FILING ON SOME OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE COST WOULD BE IF WE OFFSET SOME OF THE WORK AND GOT OUR GUYS OFF OF SOME OF THOSE MEDIANS AND RIGHT OF WAYS.
>> PART OF IT IS NOT JUST FOR WORK, BUT ITS SAFETY.
SO YOU HAVE [INAUDIBLE] WORKS ARE PARKS, EMPLOYEES OUT THERE ON 274, ON 288, DEALING WITH CARS DRIVING BY HIGH SPEEDS AND CENTRAL ISSUES WHERE SOME OF YOU HAD HEARD.
THE THOUGHT WAS TO TAKE SOME OF THAT OFF AND FOCUS ON THE CORE SKILLS OF DOING PARKS.
>> RIGHT. BUT WHAT WE FOUND WITH THOSE RFPS IS THAT HIRING JUNIOR EMPLOYEES.
WE COULD DO THAT AT A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER COST THAN THE COST WE WERE PROVIDED.
THE LOWEST ONE WAS AROUND [OVERLAPPING] [BACKGROUND].
WE RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS AND THAT WAS THE LOWEST.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT WAS ALL OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY.
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>> THE ONLY SECTION EXHIBITED IN CORPORATE WAS THE OPEN [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S A PARK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT OUR GUYS STILL MAINTAIN WITHIN OUR PARK SYSTEM.
>> [INAUDIBLE] STILL MAINTAINED.
>> YEAH. BUT AGAIN, WITH THAT CONTRACT PRICE, WE, AGAIN, [NOISE] HAD THE CHANGE [INAUDIBLE]
>> WERE THERE CERTAIN AREAS THAT YOU COULD- LIKE HE SAID, LIKE THE HIGHWAY IN THE LOOP, THAT YOU COULD HAVE SAID, OKAY, HERE'S A CONTRACT FOR THOSE FEW PIECES.
>> IT WOULDN'T SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT.
I MEAN, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT TAKES OUR STAFF TO COMPLETE THAT, WE DIDN'T [NOISE] FEEL WAS A GOOD USE OF FUNDS, I'LL SAY.
WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED THAT YOU'RE TAKING OUT LIKE THREE DAYS OF WORK.
[OVERLAPPING] YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> I UNDERSTAND [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW.
BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL COULD HAVE DONE THAT, OKAY, THIS, THIS, AND THIS WOULD SAVE 30 PERCENT OF OUR TIME THAT WE COULD SPEND ON SOMETHING ELSE? THE COST OF THESE TWO POSITIONS, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO [INAUDIBLE] THESE TWO POSITIONS FOR THE OUT OF WEAR AND TEAR ON YOUR EQUIPMENT, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO COME BACK AND GET EVERY YEAR MORE EQUIPMENT REPLACED.
>> CHIME IN IF YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY.
BUT THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED FOR RIGHT OF WAY, A LOT OF IT- WHILE YOU'RE RIGHT, SOME OF THOSE SMALLER AREAS [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] AND WE WILL HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE ROUTINELY.
OUR TRACTOR EQUIPMENT IS ANOTHER ANIMAL.
THE LIFESPAN OF THOSE ARE MUCH LARGER.
[NOISE] WE DID DO A COST ANALYSIS OF KNOWLEDGE WITH [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE] THEY DIDN'T WELL INCLUDE THE [INAUDIBLE]. THEY ARE MILLING.
WE'VE SEEN THEM FOR EVERY [INAUDIBLE].
I WOULD LOVE IT THERE THAN OFF OF THAT HAZARDOUS AREA.
BUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT TAKES THEM [NOISE] DEFINITELY WOULD RECOVER THE POSITIONS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT DID WE CALCULATE.
IT DOESN'T EVEN TAKE A DAY TO FINISH IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>>THE MOVE WILL TAKE THEM A FULL DAY TO MOVE THIS. IN THE END [OVERLAPPING]
>>THAT'S INCLUDING THE BIKES, THOUGH, RIGHT?
>> THAT'S NOT EVEN JUST THE MEDIUM.
>> THEN THE HIGHWAY 288 MEDIAN, MORE THAN ONCE A MONTH [INAUDIBLE] FIRST WEEK OF THE MONTH, AND THAT TAKES TWO DAYS OF MOWING.
BECAUSE HE'S TRACKING MORE AROUND THE TREES AND THE TRACKS WILL BE TAKEN CARE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] YOUR ANSWERING THE QUESTION TO THE EQUIPMENT AFTER THIS YEAR.
I'M LOOKING TWO, MAYBE THREE YEARS BEFORE WE HAVE TO REPLACE ANY MOWING EQUIPMENT.
WE'VE HAD TO KEEP ONE ON SPARE.
WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.
NEXT TWO YEARS, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE TO REPLACE ANY EQUIPMENT.
>> IN THE OTHER PART IS, WE HAVE THIS PROPOSAL TO PUT VEGETATION, RIGHT OF WAYS THAT WOULD, AGAIN, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MOWING AND REDUCE THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OFF THERE TOO.
>> WHAT TYPE OF LANDSCAPE WITH THAT ENVIRONMENT?
>> WE WOULD LOOK AT [BACKGROUND] SUSTAINABLE GROUND COVER.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD OF PURPLEHEART, IT'S LIKE A GROUND COVER, AND THEN JUST LIKE TEXAS LANTANA, THAT THEY SURVIVE PRETTY WELL.
>> YOU JUST DO LIKE ANNUAL CLEAN UP OR SPRINKLING UP?
>> NOT ANNUAL. WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO SPRAY IT PRETTY ROUTINELY FOR WEEDS.
BUT BY PRETTY ROUTINE, I DON'T MEAN EVERY WEEK.
[LAUGHTER] KEEPING THE GUYS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD DO IN A VEHICLE.
>> THIS IS ROUTE 224 WHERE THE CREPE MYRTLES ARE.
>> THE REASON I ONLY ASKED IS BECAUSE THAT'S AT THE HEART OF THE TOWN.
>> WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A NIGHT, AND AT THE SAME TIME [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE ONE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAVE TIME AT THE EXPENSE OF [OVERLAPPING] PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH TOWN AND THEY'RE LIKE, HOLY COW, THEY DON'T THINK THEY'RE IN THE CITY.
>> RIGHT. WE THINK IT WOULD ACTUALLY BEAUTIFY IT BECAUSE THESE WOULD BE LANDSCAPED MEDIUM.
>> THAT'S JUST LIKE [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THROUGH TOWN, AND IT LOOKS GREAT.
[OVERLAPPING] [BACKGROUND] [INAUDIBLE]
>> AGAIN, WE'RE JUST EXPLORING OPTIONS.
>> I UNDERSTAND. [LAUGHTER] I'M NOT SURE THOUGH.
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WE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF THE FEDERAL BUT IT'S NOT [INAUDIBLE]>> [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] JUST SET THE MODE TO MEDIAN.
>> YEAH, BOTH SIDES. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT THEY HAVE TOLD US THEY ONLY DO FOUR MONTHS OF THE YEAR STARTING IN MAY, AND SO FROM, I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY OCTOBER TO MAY, IT'S NOT MODE.
WE'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT HOW DO WE IMPROVE THAT, AND THEY SAID, "WELL, WE CAN GIVE YOU A PRICE AND YOU CAN TAKE IT ALL OVER," WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO DO.
WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT CURRENTLY.
THERE HAD BEEN NO OTHER REAL SIGNIFICANT CHANGES HERE.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY [NOISE] QUESTIONS?
>> [NOISE] I'VE GOT SOME HISTORY HERE.
>> [NOISE] WELCOME EVERY QUESTIONS THAT COME YOUR WAY.
[NOISE] AT WHAT POINT IN TIME AND WHY DID WE TAKE ON MOWING THROUGH [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE]?
>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE MY TIME. [LAUGHTER]
>> THERE BEING GOT THE GRANT, THE VERY FIRST GOVERNOR'S AWARD, AND THEY USED THE MONEY TO PUT VEGETATION, BEAUTIFICATION ALONG THAT STRIP, [NOISE] THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT AREA ONCE THEY DID ALL OF THAT.
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. JUST LIKE RAY JACKSON DID THE TREES ON THEIR SIDE, THE SAME REASON WHY RAY JACKSON HAD TO MAINTAIN THEIR SIDE.
[BACKGROUND] THAT'S HOW THAT ALL CAME ABOUT.
SINCE THEN, MOST OF THE STUFF WE PLANTED IS EITHER BEEN RUN OVER, TAKEN OUT, MOST OF ALL THAT BEAUTIFICATION ALONG THE 35, 288 AREA, THAT'S ALL PRETTY MUCH GONE.
ALONG THE CREPE MYRTLES CAME FROM THAT AS WELL.
>> SO IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY FROM AIRPORT ROAD TO PATH 23. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHERE ALL THAT VEGETATION STOOD AT.
>> WE GET TO DO THAT [INAUDIBLE]
>> WELL, AND HONESTLY, WE DON'T HAVE TO.
THAT IS NOT PART OF THE AGREEMENT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WITH TEXAS.
WE CAN WANT IT GO WILD [NOISE] AND ONLY HAVE THEM OUT FOUR TIMES A YEAR, IF WE WOULD LIKE.
THAT'S FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. [OVERLAPPING]
>> OR AT LEAST REDUCE THE [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN [OVERLAPPING] THE VEGETATION THAT WE PUT IN.
THAT WAS PART OF THE CONTRACT.
>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR US, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN JUST MOWING AROUND THERE, KEEPING IT.
BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GOING TO COME THROUGH AND WE DID AROUND THE TREES [OVERLAPPING]. THERE IS [INAUDIBLE] IN ALL OF THIS.
>> I THINK NOW WE HAVE CUT BACK SIGNIFICANTLY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE MOWING THE 288 FREEWAY?
>> LAST MONTH, TECH STAFF MOWED IT.
I DON'T THINK WE DO A LOT BETTER JOB.
>> BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW UP [LAUGHTER] GOING OVER MY HEAD.
>> AT THIS POINT, WE HAD TO FOLLOW UP.
>> THERE ARE TIMES OBVIOUSLY IN THE WINTER THAT WE CUT BACK TO ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS.
>> YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THAT'S OUR GATEWAY FOR THE MOST PART.
[NOISE] A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ANGLETON FROM OUTSIDE THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THAT HIGHWAY RIGHT THERE.
>> THEN WHEN WE MOWED THE OVERPASS THERE AT 288, 35.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THAT MORE THAN ONCE A MONTH, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, THAT'S A RATHER GOOD TACKLE.
>> I SEE HER OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.
>> CONGRATULATIONS TO THE GUY THAT RIDES THAT TRUCK. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'VE SEEN THE GUY. [INAUDIBLE]
>> [LAUGHTER] PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE] MOWING MY DITCH.
>> [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] KB?
>> YEAH, KB. ON SPECIAL FUNDS, IT'S PAGE 25.
[NOISE] SPECIAL POINT TAB ON PAGE 25. [NOISE]
>> ON THE SCREEN, RIGHT? THESE ARE ALL SEPARATE FUNDS, SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE [INAUDIBLE], THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE REVENUE AND EXPENSES SINCE THEY ARE A SEPARATE FUND IN ITSELF.
YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE THE REVENUE AND EXPENSES IN THE SUMMARY FORM.
>> THEN I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU TO PAGE 26.
THEY CAN LOOK AT THE DETAIL ON OUR REVENUE.
WE INITIATED A MEMBERSHIP FOR KB IS ALL TRASH BAGS INCLUDING BUSINESSES GOING UP TO NEXT YEAR WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THOSE.
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NOT A WHOLE LOT EXCEPT AN ACCOUNT NUMBER 901, TRANSFER FUNDS ARE ALL UNBALANCED.THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, CONVERTING THE MEDIAN LANDSCAPING.
THAT IS IN THE AMOUNT WE RECEIVED A QUOTE, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A GENERAL NUMBER SO NOTE IT.
[OVERLAPPING] SAY WE ALWAYS WANT TO DO START SOMEWHERE WE CAN.
>> IT'S REALLY ONLY A HALF OF THAT, [NOISE] THE OTHER HALF WOULD GO TOWARDS DESIGN DEVELOPMENT OF THE GATEWAY SIGNS AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT.
WE ARE WORKING ON SOLIDIFYING THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN AT THE END OF THIS MONTH AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING, HEY, LET'S NOT MOVE WITH MOMENTUM.
LET'S GET THESE DESIGNS, START IMPLEMENTING THEM EITHER AT PARKS OR AT LEAST UPDATE THE WAY-FINDING OR FACILITY SIGNAGE.
THE ACTUAL GATEWAY SIGNAGE OUT ON OUR MAJOR COURT ORDER IS IT GOING TO BE FAIRLY EXTENSIVE, AND SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND WORKING IN REVERSE ORDER ON THE GATEWAY FAMILY.
DURING YOUR WAYFINDING, YOUR FACILITY ON PARK SIGNAGE, SOME OF YOUR TERTIARY SIGNS AND THEN MOVING TOWARDS SOME OF THE LARGER SIGNS AS WE HAVE FUNDING.
>> YOU'RE TAKING MONEY FROM GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
>> WE ARE REQUESTING MONEY FROM GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
>> YES. IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR BUT IT WOULD HAVE IT COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, THE GENERAL FUNDS' BALANCE.
>> WHAT'S THE BALANCE IN THIS ACCOUNT?
>> WE ARE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN OUT OF THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> FUNDS BALANCE. THAT'S LEFT [INAUDIBLE].
>> I WILL JUST SAY IF YOU WANT TO USE THE NUMBER 51625, THAT'S BEING REDUCED BY WHATEVER WE'RE BEING INVOICED.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO SAY BEFORE THAT PROJECT STARTED, WE HAVE 51625.
>> I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S THE BEST USE OF GENERAL FUND MONEY FOR THE SIGNAGE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO PULL FROM FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE SHOULD BE PUTTING IT TOWARDS WATER, SEWER, SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND I AGREE IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE NEW SIGNAGE AND EVERYTHING BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF ISSUES THAT THE CITY HAS FACING IT, PULLING FROM FUND BALANCE IS A BIG DEAL.
IF WE'RE GOING TO PULL FROM IT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT AGAINST WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS.
>> YOU ALL KNOW WHAT YOU SAID IN GENERAL.
WE'VE GOT A BUCKET OF HOLES AND UNTIL WE STOP PLUG IN THE HOLES, YOU'RE LOSING MONEY AND NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
YOU GOT TO STOP THE BLEEDING SO THAT YOU CAN GET HEALTHY.
>> WE'RE PULLING FROM FUND BALANCE FROM KAV THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR AND I AGREE, BUT PULLING FROM GENERAL FUND BALANCE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
>> NO [OVERLAPPING] PROJECT FORWARD BASED ON [BACKGROUND] THAT WE HAVE, JUST THE PROPOSAL.
>> HERE'S THE REASON WHY I ASKED MEGAN TO PUT THIS IN THERE IS, WE GO THROUGH THE BRANDING STUDY OR WE GO THROUGH THEM GATEWAY MONUMENTATION, WHATEVER.
WE KEEP SAYING IT'S A STUDY WITH NO ACTION.
POTENTIAL GRAB A STUDY WITH GATEWAY MONUMENTS AND IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND IT'S STILL ON THE SHELF.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD.
>> YES. JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS IS SOMETHING AND WE'LL CONTINUE DOING THAT.
WE'RE AWARE OF ALL THE NEEDS THAT THE CITY HAS, AND THERE'S OTHER POTENTIAL RESOURCE FUNDS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE DETAIL OF THE CIP PLAN.
WHEN WE PUT SOME OF THESE PACKAGES TOGETHER, WE GO OUT FOR A GOVERNORS COMMUNITY ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AND TRY TO KNOCK THOSE OFF WITH THIS TOO.
WE WERE SECOND IN LINE THIS PAST YEAR FOR RECEIVING THOSE FUNDS, WHICH ARE AROUND $200,000.
PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT AS, HEY, I WANT TO TAKE, TAKE, TAKE, I'M PUTTING IT OUT THERE SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT IT'S THERE AND THEN WE'LL WORK TOWARDS OTHER SOLUTIONS [INAUDIBLE].
>> THEN NOT GO INTO THE CIP AND BECOME PART OF THAT PROGRAM.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON AB?
>> I HEARD A COMMENT ABOUT REMOVING IT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO? REMOVE ALL OF IT, SOME OF IT? [NOISE].
>> IT MAKES AN IMPACT [NOISE].
I THINK WE HAVE HAD IT HERE TO FINANCE OUR GATEWAY.
WORKED ON AND BRINGING [INAUDIBLE] MAKING EVEN BETTER, APPEALING.
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MAKING IT, BEAUTIFYING, THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE CAN SEE.COST UPFRONT THAN BEING SO MANY VERSIONS [INAUDIBLE], WHICH I KNOW IS IT IS IMPORTANT AS SOMETHING ON THE UNDERGROUND LEAKING, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REPAIR.
MAYBE WE CAN REDUCE IT A LITTLE BIT, DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT WE ALL SAID WE'RE TRYING TO MARKET AND THEN TRY AND MAKE IT THE PLACE TO BE, MAKE IT THE PLACE TO COME TO.
THIS CAN BE A STEP GETTING IT CLOSER TO THAT.
WHETHER YOU'RE WAY-FINDING OF THE GATEWAY.
WE'VE ALREADY SAID HERE 274 PEOPLE NOTICE OR HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS.
THE HIGHWAY PEOPLE KNOW HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS, IT'S JUST ONE STEP TO MAKE IT THAT MUCH BETTER.
I APPRECIATE YOU'RE TRYING AND DO THAT FOR US.
IF WE JUST REDUCE THAT NUMBER OR YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE IT OUT, THAT'S FINE TOO.
>> IS THERE ANY WAY IT CAN BE STEPPED TWO YEARS?
THIS IS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF WHAT WILL BE A LONG-TERM PROJECT THAT OTHER MONUMENTATION THAT'S BEEN UP AROUND THE HOUSTON AREA ON 288 COURT ORDER, I MEAN, THOSE PROJECTS ARE 250 A PIECE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] AND CREATE THAT INTERNAL UNIFIED LOOK AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
>> JUST TO GO BACK TO THE 901, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT HALF OF THIS IS ONLY FOR LANDSCAPING AND HALF OF IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR GATEWAY.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING WHAT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OR NOT, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS.
>> YES. 274 PIECE, YOU COULD SAY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU COULD SAY 250, WE ARE GOING TO SPEND 50,000 AND WE'RE GOING TO START THERE.
>> YEAH, AND THAT CAN BE PHASED.
THAT'S TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING, SO WE HAVE FOUR MEDIANS.
>> IS PART OF THE LANDSCAPING, IS THE INITIAL COST UPFRONT, BUT THEN TIME AND MONEY SAVED FOR MAINTENANCE?
>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RIPPING UP [OVERLAPPING] PUTTING DOWN [OVERLAPPING].
>> SURE. RIGHT IN FRONT OF MCDONALD'S, THERE'S A MEDIAN WITH CREPE MYRTLE AND SOD, AND WE HAVE FOUR THOSE ON THE LOOP.
WE'RE RECOMMENDING REMOVING SOD AND PUTTING VEGETATION UNDERNEATH THE CREPE MYRTLE SO THAT RATHER THAN PUTTING Z TRACK OUT THERE, OR PUSH MALWARE WITH OUR GUYS, ON THE MEDIAN, WE'RE GOING IN A VEHICLE AND SPRAYING FOR WEEDS, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO MOW ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
WE COULD CUT THAT BACK TO, AS THIS COULD BE A FOUR-YEAR PROJECT.
WE COULD DO ONE MEDIAN AT A TIME.
YOU COULD DO TWO MEDIANS AT A TIME.
>> WHAT IS THE BREAKDOWN ON [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE]?
>> WE THINK THE LOOP IS LIFTED AT 230.
>> 230 FROM THE SIGNAGE, 230 FROM [INAUDIBLE]. [BACKGROUND].
>> THE 270 IS REALLY FOR THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT OF THE SIGN FAMILY AND THEN THE FIRST ROUND OF WHATEVER WE CAN AFFORD AFTER THAT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] GRASS AND PUTTING MULCH BACK IN?
>> NOT NECESSARILY MULCH, JUST VEGETATION.
WE COULD DO MULCH, BUT DO VEGETATION SO THAT IT STILL IS BEAUTIFYING THE AREA, IT'S LIKE A GROUND COVER. THEN WE'RE JUST SPRAYING FOR WEEDS.
>> PURPLE HEART AND THEN [INAUDIBLE].
>> THEN YOU'RE REALLY NOT MULCHING, YOU'RE JUST ABOUT ROUNDING UP THE WEEDS AND FIXING THE WHATEVER.
>> I LIKE THAT BUT I DON'T THINK IT CONCERNS [INAUDIBLE] I'VE SEEN THE PAST MAINTENANCE. GOT TO MAINTAIN IT.
>> I GET IT BUT I THINK I WILL JUST SAY FOR OUR STAFF, WE'RE [OVERLAPPING] PRETTY PARTICULAR ALSO.
I MEAN, WE LIVE HERE AND WE WANT IT TO LOOK GOOD AS WELL, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE OUT THERE WEEKLY.
>> I THINK WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING THE BED DOWN HERE, YOU'RE DOING THINGS [INAUDIBLE] TO FORBID WEED GROWTH.
>> THEN WHEN YOU GIVE THE GROUND COVERING THERE, I THINK YOU HAVE [NOISE] HERBICIDES THAT YOU
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GO IN THERE AND SPRAY THAT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THE PLANTS YOU HAVE THERE.I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.
>> WHAT ABOUT REPLACEMENT? [NOISE] PLANT DOESN'T MAKE IT.
>> ARE YOU ALL GOING TO REAP THAT ONE OUT AND PUT IN [OVERLAPPING]?
>> YEAH, WE HAVE VEGETATION REPLACEMENT IN OUR PARKS BUDGET, SO WE HAVE THAT NOW AND ALSO KB.
THIS WOULD BE A BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT, THEY ALSO HAVE BEAUTIFICATION FUNDS.
BUT IF WE SAY, WE HAD A FREEZE, WE'VE GOT TO REPLACE EVERYTHING.
[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] THEN WE HAVE MEASURES IN PLACE WHERE WE CAN [INAUDIBLE] DIFFERENT PLANS.
>> I LIKE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS LIKE, "HEY, LET'S CHUNK DOWN ONE.
LET'S MAKE IT A PILOT PROGRAM.
WE CAN EVALUATE OVER A YEAR." [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO DOING MORE.
LIKE AS YOU SAID, IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM AND SEE WHAT OUR REAL COSTS ARE.
>> ALSO, IT HELPS US MAYBE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE CAN LOOK AT THE REDUCTION IN THAT MOWING HOURS, OR INCREASE LANDSCAPING, OR WHATEVER IT IS.
>> AESTHETICS LOOK LIKE WHAT YOU DID.
>> WITH THIS ONE, I KNOW I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU TOO. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> WHAT'S [INAUDIBLE] COST US?
>> YOU'RE NEGOTIATING. YOU'RE ACTING LIKE JOHN RIGHT NOW.
>> THE AESTHETICS THOUGH, THEY LOOK REALLY GOOD NOW.
YOU GO AND RIP ONE OF THEM UP AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO, "I JUST DID THAT.
WHAT'S ONE SELL?" WE'LL GET THE REST SOMEHOW. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE GOOD. IF WE EVEN TOUCH THEM, ANYTIME WE TOUCH THOSE MEDIA, THERE'S BEEN LESS [INAUDIBLE].
>> I JUST DON'T FACTOR BETWEEN [INAUDIBLE] PAPERS.
>> I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A HEADACHE. DO YOU? MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS OUT LOUD, BUT THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE PAVERS THAT DON'T LOOK GREAT.
BUT MAYBE IT'S A MAINTENANCE ISSUE, I DON'T KNOW.
>> IT WILL HAVE DEFINITELY SPREAD RATHER [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] THE MOWING ASPECT.
>> RIGHT. YEAH. YOU COULD. EXACTLY.
>> I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, WE HAD CONCRETE THERE FIRST THAT WE POURED.
>> RIGHT. WE STILL HAVE SOME CONCRETE.
>> NO CONTRACT. WE WENT FOR THE PLANS.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY MORE THAT COULD BE [OVERLAPPING]
>> THIS WAS A PAID PROJECT IN KABS MIND.
YEAH. THEY INITIALLY WENT OUT FOR MORE MEDIUMS BUT IT DIDN'T FALL UNDER.
THIS WAS FOR OUR GCAA GRANT AND SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THEY HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT THEY WANT.
THEY WANT TO DO IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE HEART.
WE'VE ALSO FILED THIS PROJECT WITH THE GREEN RIBBON PROJECT WITH TXDOT BECAUSE THERE'S NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES THAT RECEIVED THE GCAA AWARD.
WHEN THEY GO OUT FOR A BID PACKAGE, IF THEY CAN SAY, "HEY, WE GOT A GCAA OVER HERE, WE'VE GOT A GREEN RIBBON PROPOSAL OVER HERE.
WE HAVE TWO PROPOSALS RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING THE MEDIAN FOR THE GREEN RIBBON PROJECT, BUT WE'RE WAITING ON THAT NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY TO GET GOING ON OUR GCAA GRANT, SO YOU MAY SEE IT IN A YEAR OR TWO.
>> WHAT DEAL IS OKAY? WHAT IF SHE DID ONE PROJECT? YOU WAIT UNTIL THE THIRD QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.
>> PREFERABLY SPRING, FOR CLAMPING.
[LAUGHTER] BUT HERE'S ANOTHER THING [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M THE DELIGHT, THAT'S I'M GETTING TO IS IF YOU STAGGER IT BY BRINGING IT TO THE SPRING, IF YOU DO ONE THEN YOU CAN PERHAPS MOVE IT INTO THE NEXT BUDGET SAYING THAT WITHOUT THERE BEING [OVERLAPPING]
>> A HUGE GAP. YEAH, WE COULD WAIT ON THE PROJECT UNTIL SPRING AND SAY WE'LL SEE THIS AGAIN. YEAH.
>> WITH ME, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO IT THIS FALL.
>> THE OTHER CONSIDERATION TOO IS THAT THIS WAS THE GENERAL QUOTE.
THAT HASN'T ACTUALLY GONE OUT TO BID.
YOU MAY BE LOOKING AT SOME REDUCED COSTS BASED ON PLANS.
YEAH, DIFFERENT MANPOWER LIKE THE COMPANY THAT PUT IN THE CREPE MYRTLE.
THEY MAY BE FAR LESS THAN THE COMPANY THAT WE WERE SHOPPING.
>> GUYS, DO YOU ALL HAVE DIRECTIONS FOR STAFF?
>> REAL QUICK TO ANSWER JOHN'S QUESTION.
YES, HE WANTS TO KNOW IF KAB HAD ANY MONEY IN THEIR FUNDS.
THEY DO HAVE ABOUT $40,000 [INAUDIBLE] THEY HAD $68 OF IT LAST YEAR, BUT WE'RE AT A LOSS ABOUT $20 THIS YEAR.
SO IF THAT COMES BACK WITHIN THE YEAR,
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WE'LL REALLY GET ABOUT $40,000.>> IS THIS SOMETHING WE'D GO BACK TO KAB AND SAY LIKE, "SEE, WITH FUND $60."
>> MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS, IS THAT AMOUNT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR RESERVES FROM LAST YEAR OR WHAT IS BUDGETED? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THE GATEWAY PROJECT AND WE'RE PULLING FROM $900.
>> RIGHT. WELL, WHAT THEY HAD LAST YEAR IN THE BANK WAS CASH WAS IN ABOUT $68,000.
WE'RE SHOWING THROUGH YEAR-TO-DATE.
WE'RE SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE A LOSS OF ABOUT $22, SO THEY GOT ABOUT $40,000.
NOW, IF WE WILL SPEND THAT THE REST OF THE YEAR, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY.
>> RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THE GATEWAY PROJECT.
AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE CAN SAY, "HEY, I WANT [INAUDIBLE]
>> I'LL STILL SAY TAKE IT IT ALL OUT, JUST [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET ALL THE STUFF DONE.
>> WHAT IS THE MOMENTUM DUE IF YOU SIGN THIS?
>> BUT NEXT YEAR, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A BETTER BUDGET.
YOU HAVE MORE TAXABLE VALUE THAT WILL BE ON THE GROUND NEXT YEAR.
WE'D BE IN A BETTER POSITION THEN.
WE ALSO HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I'M GOING FROM GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
I'M PULLING IT FROM THE WATER AND SEWER.
>> ONE RECOMMENDATION TOO IS THAT $270 WAS DESIGN AND WHATEVER INFRASTRUCTURE WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT INTO PLAY, MAYBE THAT'S IT AND YOU JUST DO DESIGN.
>> MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DESIGN [INAUDIBLE] STUFF.
>> THEN WE CAN SAY, "HEY, WE'RE PHASING THIS AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION NEXT FISCAL YEAR."
>> THEN ON THE RIGHT AWAY STUFF, I THINK IF WE START WITH PART OF IT AND THEN SEE WHERE KAB IS DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE AND SEE IF WE GET THEM [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING.
>> WHAT HAVE WE SPENT ALREADY ON PLANNING [INAUDIBLE]?
>> THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN? THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS ENCAPSULATED INTO LAKESIDE AND THEN SEPARATED BACK OUT BECAUSE IT WAS TAKING SO LONG FOR LAKESIDE.
I WANT TO SAY IT WAS AROUND $80, MIGHT BE LESS ACTUALLY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I GUESS, HAVE THEY BEEN JOINED WITH ABLC AND KAB [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE PRESENTATIONS OF THE SIGNAGE, I KNOW WE'VE HAD IT.
>> WE TAUGHT AT TOWNHALL MEETING.
>> THAT DESIGN WORKED BEST THAT WE [NOISE].
>> YES, THAT'S WHY IMAGERY, NOT ACTUAL DESIGN DEVELOPMENT [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S ESSENTIALLY LIKE WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PARK PROCESS.
IT'S OUR CONCEPT PLAN, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND THEN CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE JUST FINALIZING THE CONCEPTS.
I WOULD SAY $10, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
>> AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, WE'LL HAVE [INAUDIBLE] PROBABLE COST, YOU'D BASE YOUR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT OFF OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
>> OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT.
>> SORRY FOR ME TO SAY, BUT THIS IN THERE, WHENEVER I HAVE SEEN WHAT WE HAVE TO SPEND ON INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHY WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION NOW.
WE CAN MAKE A TENTATIVE PLAN AND THEN TUESDAY AFTER WE'VE GONE THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] WORKS WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS [OVERLAPPING]
>> I LIKE CONSIDERING PERHAPS A BEAM WITH THE ATTEMPT TO REDUCE COSTS AND SPENDING IT IN THE LONG RUN.
>> I WOULD BE CURIOUS ABOUT DESIGN.
>> MONUMENT TOWER, WHATEVER [OVERLAPPING] AND DELVE MORE THAN THAT.
I'M NOT SAYING WE EVEN DO THAT.
I COULDN'T THINK GOING BEYOND THOSE TWO THINGS THIS YEAR, BUT AT LEAST I'D BE OPEN TO THOSE TWO.
THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE STUFF THAT WAY WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> MAYBE GO WITH THE $60,000 RIGHT AWAY AND DO THE ONE MEDIAN, AND THEN WE CUT A MONUMENT STUFF OUT AND RE-ADDRESS THAT AT A LATER TIME?
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>> ARE THE SAME FARMERS DOING THE STUDY GOING TO DO THIS DESIGN?
>> THEY DON'T HAVE TO. ONE OTHER THOUGHT THAT I JUST HAD IS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING INTO LAKESIDE PARK CONSTRUCTION.
THE CONTRACTORS, WE HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR SIGNAGE.
BUT THAT SIGNAGE HASN'T BEEN DESIGNED.
WE MAY GET TO A POINT WHERE THAT CONTRACTOR, WE SHOW THEM, "HEY, HERE'S OUR ADOPTED GATEWAY.
WE NEED YOU TO CONSTRUCT THIS" AND THEN WE ASK THEM FOR THE PLAN.
BUT THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.
>> WELL YEAH, I MEAN CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS GATEWAY AND THEN YOU GOT YOUR BIG PARK [OVERLAPPING]
>> TRULY PUT THE [INAUDIBLE] I'M GOING TO SAY $60,000 IN THERE FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN WHEN THE NOTES COME BACK, THEN TALK ABOUT MONUMENT DESIGN.
>> OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON KAB BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE REC CENTER OR WITH THE ABLC FIRST?
>> THERE'S A TAB IN THE BACK, NEXT TO LAST RIGHT BEFORE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
IT'S FOR ABLC AND REC, 140, WHICH ABLC IS FIRST. GO BACK TO [INAUDIBLE]
>> YOU WANT IS JUST A SUMMARY ABOUT THE REVENUE AND ABLC EXPENDITURES.
[NOISE] PAGE 2 IS OUR [INAUDIBLE].
>> THIS IS WHAT IT WAS THROUGH SEVEN MONTHS.
WE HAVE ONE MORE MONTH EVERY DAY.
YESTERDAY I THOUGHT WE HAD 4.5 RIGHT NOW AND THEN WITH THE ROLLING 12 WAS [NOISE] FOR THAT MONTH.
THAT DECLINE WAS FROM 402 TO 389.
IT'S ONLY $13,000 EVEN THOUGH IT'S A DECLINE.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE OVER 10 PERCENT ROLLING 12 RIGHT NOW.
>> [NOISE] SHIPPED TO THEIR HOME AND [LAUGHTER] HAVE YOUR [OVERLAPPING].
>> DON'T GO OFF LIKE JACK TO THE BODY [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER].
IT'S JUST YOUR REVENUES OR SALES TAX.
A LINE ITEM 4300900 ON PAGE 3 UNDER TRANSFERS WERE REQUESTING A TRANSFER OF 400,000 FOR [INAUDIBLE] MASTER PLAN.
THAT'S FOR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS.
AT THE END OF THE MONTH, WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF PROBABLE COST BASED ON THE CONCEPTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED.
I PLUGGED IN A NUMBER FOR A BUDGET.
DESIGN DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BASED OFF OF WHATEVER THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE.
>> WHAT IS ABLCS FUND BALANCE?
>> THEY ARE AT ABOUT $100,000 [NOISE].
>> IF WE GO ON TO I THINK [INAUDIBLE] THE LAST PAGE.
IF WE GO TO PAGE 4, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHARTS.
[INAUDIBLE] PAGE 6, THOSE ARE EXPENSES.
>> NOW, JUST REAL QUICK ON THE CHART.
THE CHART SHOWS THAT 26 PERCENT OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET GOING TO BE CAPITAL PROJECTS WHEN REALLY NOT ZERO [INAUDIBLE].
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.
THE DISCUSSION FROM ABLC BEFORE WHEN WE HAD BUDGET LAST YEAR WITH ABLC, HOW DO WE REDUCE PAYING FOR PARKS LABOR?
>> RIGHT. WE CAME BACK AS PART OF THAT BUDGET DISCUSSION AND TOOK A LOOK AT THAT AND I THINK WE CAME UP WITH A $260,000 SAVINGS THAT WOULD ALLOW ABLC TO DO MORE CAPITAL PROJECTS SO THAT SAVINGS ON PERSONNEL WOULD NOT TRANSLATE INTO UP TO $260,000 JUST ON PROJECT.
THERE COULD BE [INAUDIBLE] POOL, IT COULD BE A LAKE SIDE PARK, IT COULD BE A BASEBALL FIELD ADDITION,
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IT COULD BE LIGHTING, WHATEVER WE DO.>> SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD IN ABLC WAS THAT WE LIKELY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO AS SIGNIFICANT AS A DECREASE ON PERSONAL SERVICES THAT WE ARE ORIGINALLY PROPOSING.
FIFTY PERCENT OF PERSONNEL SERVICES APART, PERSONNEL SERVICES WAS BEING TAKEN OUT OF ABLC AND TRANSFERRED INTO GENERAL FUND.
WE WERE PROPOSING A 25 PERCENT TRANSFER AND BECAUSE OF THE NO NEW REVENUE, WE HAD TO INCREASE THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT IN THE GENERAL FUND.
>> IT'S BACK TO 40 PERCENT NOW.
>> IT'S LESS THAN 50 BUT AT 40.
THE OTHER THING THAT CHRIS KEPT IN HERE, WHICH I APPRECIATE, IS HE DIDN'T REDUCE THE COST.
IF YOU LOOK IN LINE ITEM 40506625, HE STILL KEPT THAT AMOUNT [OVERLAPPING].
STILL KEPT THE COST OF THE PROJECTS IN THERE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE OF SALES TAX.
WE BELIEVE WE'LL STILL HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DO VARIOUS PROJECTS.
>> AT 625, YOU HAVE THE $100,000 FOR [INAUDIBLE] PARK AND 217 FOR OTHER PROJECTS, WHICH IS WHAT BETTER AS WELL [OVERLAPPING].
I DID LIST [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
THAT'S JUST TALKING ABOUT MOVING THAT PROJECT ALONG.
WE'VE DEMOLISHED AND NOW WE NEED TO START DEFINING A CONCEPT AND MOVING FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING THAT PARK.
HOWEVER, I WILL NOTE THAT THAT IS A PROJECT THAT IS FOUND LATER IN THE CIP PLAN.
ANOTHER SUGGESTION HERE FOR PARKS PROJECTS WOULD BE THE STANDARDIZATION OF PARK STANDARDS, STANDARDIZATION OF PARK COMPONENTS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH [INAUDIBLE] TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS INTERNALLY BUT WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO HAVE JUST A PARK STANDARDS MANUAL THAT EVEN DEVELOPERS, OUR STAFF, IF WE ALL LEAVE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW WHAT OUR PARK STANDARDS ARE? WHERE IS IT ESTABLISHED OR WRITTEN OR WHAT IS THE DESIGN OF THESE THINGS? SO, THIS MANUAL [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S NEXT DEVELOPERS FOR AND THEY WANT TO PROVIDE PARK LAND.
>> RIGHT. THEY CAN REFER TO THIS AND SEE THIS IS WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS.
YES, WE CAN MEET THAT OR NO, WE CAN'T MEET THAT.
THERE'S, AGAIN, VARIOUS PROJECTS LIKE WE'VE MENTIONED, $3.1 MILLION WORTH OF PARK PROJECTS, [INAUDIBLE] PROJECTS.
THESE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR THAT.
THESE ARE IDEAS OF MOVING THINGS FORWARD.
WE HAVE SUBSTANDARD PARKS IN MY OPINION THAT WE NEED TO GET UP TO A STANDARD THAT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS CAN ENJOY AND EQUITABLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE'VE GOT TO START MAKING MOVEMENT ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, ESPECIALLY ON [INAUDIBLE] ACCOUNTS.
>> AROUND 625 THAT ADA AGAIN, JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU AS MEGAN SAID BEFORE, THAT'S PARKS PORTION OF AN ADA PLAN FOR THE CITY.
YOU'LL SEE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BECAUSE THAT'S DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THAT'S WHERE THE REST OF THAT FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT.
WE DON'T SEE THIS AS JUST A PARKS PROJECT BUT THE ENTIRE.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE JUST BILLING IT FOR PARKS.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? IT'S NOT A STAND ALONE PROJECT IN PARKS, IT'S A [INAUDIBLE].
>> OVERALL, BUT THAT'S ONLY FOR LIKE SIDEWALKING FACILITIES.
IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PREPAREDNESS OR WEBSITE OR COMMUNICATION.
>> THEY WERE JUST USING SIDEWALKS AND.
>> YEAH. IT'S NOT EVEN COMPREHENSIVE.
[NOISE] WILL BE EMBEDDED THIS YEAR.
IT'S NOT EVEN COMPREHENSIVE OF THE WHOLE THING.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HIT THE PRIORITIES THAT ARE PUBLIC SERVICES.
>> I ALSO WANT TO SAY CHRIS HAS BEFORE MADE A COMMENT THAT ABLC NEEDS TO DO MORE PARKS PROJECTS.
HOWEVER, IF ABLC CONTINUES TO BUILD MORE PARKS, WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE PARK STAFF TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN.
ABLC, THEY CAME UP AND WE HAD THE DISCUSSION.
[INAUDIBLE] IS THE ONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE THAT BUT I'M ALSO THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO TELL YOU WE CAN'T DO THAT WITH ABLC CONTINUING TO BUILD MORE PARKS AND GIVE THE OPERATION MAINTENANCE FOR THE GENERAL FUND, FOR THE TAXPAYER TO PAY.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT ABLC PUTS IN THE PORTION TO COVER THAT.
I'M OKAY WITH GOING FROM 50 PERCENT TO 40 PERCENT BUT I DON'T WANT TO KEEP REDUCING THAT BECAUSE AS THE SALES TAX GROWS, THAT'S HOW WE PAY FOR THE NEW PARK PROJECTS.
I WILL MAKE SURE I FILL THAT OUT THERE AS WELL.
>> AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO [INAUDIBLE].
I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY WHAT WE WERE FROM LAST YEAR.
WE WERE TRYING TO BE [INAUDIBLE] IN THE BUDGET AND AGAIN WHAT WE ALL DO IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER IN [OVERLAPPING].
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>> [INAUDIBLE] IN A 10 PERCENT DECREASE IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IF YOU ASK ME.
>> THE OTHER THING YOU CAN THINK OF ALTERNATIVELY IS THE MORE YOU DECREASE ON PERSONNEL, THE MORE YOU CAN DO IN DRAINAGE, PARKS AND RECREATION.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NEW PROJECTS.
IT CAN BE THE MAINTENANCE OF AND SO WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT THE THING, YOU HAVE TO THINK OF IT.
>> BUT ABLC LOOKS AT IT AS A NEW PROJECT. IT'S LIKE THERE'S A NEW PLAYGROUND [OVERLAPPING].
>> NO, NOT NECESSARILY [OVERLAPPING] PLAN, THERE'S MAINTENANCE [INAUDIBLE], THERE'S [OVERLAPPING].
FOR INSTANCE, THE [INAUDIBLE] CENTER, THEY'VE BONDED OUT MONEY FOR [INAUDIBLE] AND DIFFERENT PROJECTS JUST TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THING IS TO POINT OUT FOR TODAY, BUT SOMETHING SPECIFIC FOR SOUTHSIDE IS ESSENTIAL.
THE RESIDENTS SOUTH OF THE TRACK HAVE HAD THAT.
I DON'T HEAR THEM SCREAMING IT BUT THE FACT IS [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S A GROWING POPULATION DOWN THERE.
>> THAT IF THEY WANT TO GO TO A PARK THEY'VE GOT TO DRIVE FIVE MILES.
[LAUGHTER] WHEREAS THERE'S A LOT OTHER SECTIONS OF TOWN THEY CAN WALK TO THE PARK.
>> THE NATIONAL STANDARD HAS A 10-MINUTE WALK TO A PARK WHICH IS HALF A MILE.
WHEN YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOB.
>> THAT'S WHY WE REQUEST ABOUT THEM AND THE POOL.
>> WELL, IT WAS JOE THAT NEED IT.
>> WELL, PART OF IT IS JUST WE GOT HOUSEKEEPING, AND PART OF IS THAT'S ONE LESS STEP TO HAVING THAT PARK REVITALIZE OR SOMETHING.
>> I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO OKAY, YEAR MARKED OR REQUESTED IT'D BE MUCH BETTER SPENT IN GOING TOWARDS SOME AGREEMENT WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION.
BUILDING SOMETHING THAT WAS THERE THAT ACTUALLY YOU CAN WALK TO IT. YOU CAN WALK SO WELL.
>> I AGREE. THAT'S WHY I DON'T SUPPORT ANY PLANS AS WELL RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF MY ONE POD AND I'M JUST OUT THERE AND THEY'RE ALL WORKING ON MANY LEVELS.
MY BRAIN IS PROBABLY WORKING ON YOUR LEVEL AS FAR AS THIS GOES.
BUT I DO SOMETIMES WONDER IF WE WERE NOT BITING OFF MORE THAN WE CAN CHEW RIGHT NOW.
[OVERLAPPING] LET'S GET A HOLD ON THAT PROJECT AND THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PROJECT.
>> WELCH IS JUST MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE AND YOU'RE THE PARK'S PERSON SO YOU'RE GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR PARKS, I GET THAT.
>> BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT JUST MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY DOABLE RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEKING GUIDANCE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] LET'S TALK ABOUT MATTERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT CAN GET A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING.
SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY ON THE GROUND.
LET'S GET BACK TO WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE BEFORE WE GO JUMPING INTO ANOTHER FIRE AND TRYING TO PUT THAT ONE OUT.
I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST MY POINT.
>> AGAIN, YOU HAVE DESIGNED CROSS BORE FREEDOM, SO WE'RE MOVING THAT FORWARD.
HOPEFULLY, IN 1-2 YEARS WE'LL BE ABLE TO BOND OUT AGAIN, AVLC WILL.
>> FOR CONSTRUCTION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NEXT YEAR.
>> THEY HAVE [OVERLAPPING] SOME CAPACITY NEXT YEAR.
>> WELL, THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME.
WE [OVERLAPPING] DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBABLE COSTS ARE.
>> THAT'S WHERE MAYBE IS CONSOLIDATED BOND AND IT'S FREEDOM PARK, VERSUS OLD MUNICIPAL POOL WHATEVER THAT IS, WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION.
>> VETERANS AND FINISH THOSE UP TOO.
>> WE'VE GOT OTHER PROJECTS BEFORE WE JUMP INTO ANOTHER THING.
I KNOW WHO HISTORICALLY LIVED IN ANGLETON, WELCH PARK MAYBE HAS SOMETHING.
BUT IT HASN'T HELD ANY RELEVANCE TO ANYBODY, PROBABLY UNDER THE AGE OF 15 OR 20.
BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN USED THAT MUCH.
IT'S NOT A HEAVILY, SOUTHSIDE OF TOWN.
>> WELL, WE'LL HAVE LOGISTICAL ISSUES OF SEWERS AND ALL THAT.
>> SURE. ABSOLUTELY. AGAIN, WE ARE LIFTING PROJECT IDEAS HERE.
WE'RE NOT SAYING LIKE WE HAVE A QUOTE FOR VETERANS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S JUST THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE 217,001 [OVERLAPPING].
>> HOW CAN WE CONVERT THE WELCH TO VETERANS OR POOL?
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHAT'S THIS POOL YOU ALL HAVE BEEN MENTIONING?
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE [OVERLAPPING] REDEVELOP THE AREA.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PUTTING AN ACTUAL POOL IN THERE?
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>> WE HAVEN'T RENAMED [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
WE KEEP CALLING IT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY NAME WE HAVE FOR IT. WE HAVEN'T RENAMED IT.
>> THAT'S THE HARD PART [LAUGHTER].
>> WHAT ARE THE STIPULATIONS ABOUT WELCH PARK, CAN WE SELL THAT PROPERTY?
>> WE CAN'T. IT HAS TO BE A PARK BY IT'S OWN PERPETUITY BECAUSE IT WAS DEVELOPED WITH A TPW GRANT, A STATE GRANT.
WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT WITH A POOL.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN ENTER INTO A PRIVATE AGREEMENT.
WE COULD GO OUT FOR BIDS OR A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE AGREEMENT AND SOMEONE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF AROUND COST FOR US.
>> SOMEBODY COULD DEVELOP IT FOR US.
>> THEY COULD BE A COUNTER DIRECTION TAKE THAT MARGIN AND GO OUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT WILL BE NICE [LAUGHTER].
>> IT'S LIKE WE'RE HOME OR SOMETHING WE'VE GOT LOTS WE CAN'T EAT.
>> I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE SOME WAY FOR IT RIGHT NOW AS I SAY, THROW IT OUT THERE AND SAY, "WHAT CAN WE DO IN A PARTNERSHIP THAT SOMEONE COULD LEASE IT LONG-TERM." THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE NEED AND CREATE DEVELOPMENT.
>> I STILL THINK ANDERSON WOULD BE THE BETTER PARK LOCATION.
>> THE OLD CITY BARN IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> THE OLD CITY BARN, I THINK IF THAT WAS REAL.
>> I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF LOCATIONS THERE.
BUT THEN I THINK THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT IT IS [OVERLAPPING] WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SOUTHSIDE.
>> IT HAS WALKABILITY THROUGH IT AND IT'S ON A HIGHWAY.
IT'S NOT OUT IN THE GRASSY PASTURES OF WELCH PARK.
IT'S RIGHT THERE AND PEOPLE CAN GET UP AND DOWN TO IT.
>> I'M NOT SURE IF WE EVEN HAVE THAT ON OUR RADAR.
>> ABSOLUTELY, IT'S ON OUR RADAR FOR SURE.
>> [OVERLAPPING]. MAYBE DIRECTION-WISE, LET'S BRING THAT THROUGH PARKS AND AVLC.
>> POTENTIAL LEASE AND PUT IT OUT THERE.
>> AGAIN, DISCUSSION ON AMERICAN LEGION SOME OF THE POTENTIALS WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS THEY'VE SAID, "HEY, WHAT IF YOU PAY THE PARKING LOT FROM THE AMERICAN LEGION AS AN EXCHANGE FOR PLAYING BEHIND." AGAIN, JUST SPIT-BALLING IN OUR LEVEL IS THEY GET RID OF PARKING IN FRONT OF WHERE THE OLD MUNICIPAL WAS THAT BECOMES A PUBLIC PARKING BOTH FOR THE PARKS, WHICH COULD BE AROUND BACK INTO THE SIDE.
THEN THE AMERICAN LEGION HAS THE BENEFIT OF THEY USE IT THE KNIGHTS AND THEIR MEETINGS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
WE'VE JUST GOT A SURVEY, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.
WE'LL BRING IN THROUGH THE PARK'S BOARD AND AVLC AND COUNSEL, AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, ON THAT.
>> WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD USE AND TRANSFER.
LET'S SEE I'M TAKING YOU TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THERE A BUNCH OF TIME TO KEEP US ON TRACK HERE.
WE HAVE TO ALSO REMEMBER GUYS THAT THIS AREA IS DRAINAGE TOO.
WE'VE GOT TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR OUR FUTURE DRAINAGE.
THAT COULD GOT ANYTHING ON SPEED.
TO ME, THAT'S ALSO A PRIORITY TO SPEAK WHOLLY AS OUR PARKS HAS TO [INAUDIBLE], BUT WE NEED ALSO TO REMEMBER THAT.
AFTER WHATEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'LL GET TO THAT PUBLIC WORST AREA.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE AND WE KNOW THERE'S SOME PROJECTS OUT THERE THAT WE'VE TOSSED AROUND, WE'VE STUDIED, WE HAVE IDEAS.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE FUNDING NOW.
JUST REMEMBER, THIS VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL FOR DRAINAGE- [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE UPDATE ABLC ON DRAINAGE BY ALL MEANS.
>> BUT WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT, ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THINGS WE HAVE TO GET DONE AND WE KEEP BACK-BURNING.
WE'VE GOT TO FILE, AT SOME POINT, IF I PUT SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT.
>> MAYOR, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT GENERAL FUND AND ABLC AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS PRIORITY AND FUND THAT.
THAT'S WHY I MISSED THE LAST BUDGETS WHERE WE HAVE ALL THE ITEMS UP THERE AND WE WOULD GO THROUGH IT AND SAY, YES, YES, NO, NO, NO.
THIS IS DIFFERENT AND I LIKE SOME OF THE GRAPHS AND EVERYTHING, BUT I DO MISS THE NO.
WHAT ARE WE PRIORITIZING? WHAT'S IN HERE THAT WE'RE NOT PRIORITIZING AND WHAT WE SHOULDN'T BE PRIORITIZING?
>> WELL, LET'S HOPE WE'LL GET TO SIP AT THE END.
THESE ARE SOME JUST BARE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WANT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S IN HERE NOW, LIKE ED COUNTS AND WE USED TO PUT THAT UP THERE.
IT WASN'T LIKE A CIP BECAUSE TO ME, A CIP IS MORE LONG-RANGE PLAN AND THIS WAS WHAT WE'RE FUNDING NEXT YEAR.
>> BUT WE MEAN HEAD COUNTS, WHAT DO YOU-
>> DO YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR? WE HAD JAILER.
WE HAVE IT BROKEN UP BY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
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ONE NEW PERSON, HOW MUCH THAT COST AND THEN WE'D GO DOWN AND THEY ASK USING PD, JAILER, PROMOTION OF A LIEUTENANT, BODY CAMS OR WHATEVER.THEN WE GET TO PART AND WE TALK ABOUT THE NEW PLAYGROUND THAT [INAUDIBLE] WE TALKED ABOUT.
REMEMBER WE HAD THAT PAVILION UP THERE-
>> HE'S TALKING ABOUT [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TAKING IN.
>> RIGHT. EVEN JUST LIKE A CAPITAL OUTLAY, WHAT'S NOT ON YOUR STANDARD BUDGET AND A LIST BY DEPARTMENT OF [INAUDIBLE]
>> IT'S NOT JUST CAPITAL, ROSE.
EVEN PROMOTION OF A LIEUTENANT WAS IN THERE AND HOW MUCH THAT WAS COSTING OUR BUDGET.
JUST WALK THROUGH AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS.
WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT? WHAT DO WE WANT MORE THIS YEAR VERSUS NEXT YEAR? BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF STUFF IN HERE SO FAR.
WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT? I AGREE WITH YOU ON DRAINAGE.
WHAT DRAINAGE PROJECT ARE WE MISSING OUT ON?
>> BUT I'D AGREE A LOT OF THIS SET PLAN CAPTURES A LOT OF THOSE AND FROM THAT INFORMATION [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M SURE WE'LL GET IT IN THE FIFTH OF WHAT'S FUNDED.
BUT JUST SAYING, WE'RE GOING ABOUT DEPARTMENT AND WE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT'S WORKING. OTHERWISE, I'LL BE CALLING [OVERLAPPING]
>> ON THE SUMMARY SHEET IN EACH FUND, IT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE [INAUDIBLE] BY DEPARTMENT AND IT GIVES YOU ALL THE BIG ISLANDS ARE LISTED RIGHT THERE IN THIS DEPARTMENT.
THEN THIS PLAN WAS TO GO EACH DEPARTMENT AND WE COULD FIND IT THERE AND DECIDED THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT JUST LIKE YOU DO WITH WELCH, YOU GAVE US GUIDANCE AND SAID, ''WELCH IS NOT A PRIORITY [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE GOING TO REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO FREEDOM PARK, VETERANS PARK, THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MOVE OFF.
>> YEAH. HAS ALL OF JUNK BEEN REMOVED FROM WELCH?
>> IS IT JUST GROUND AFTER GROUND?
>> I'VE BEEN TOLD THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED.
THEY'RE ON THE GROUND. WE'VE GOT TO GO OUT THERE.
>> I'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE WARNING THE FOLKS.
I'M HOPING THAT I CAN SCHEDULE WITH THEM OR WE GO OUT THERE AND LOAD THE POLES UP THERE FOR THEM.
I WAS HAVING TO DEAL WITH [OVERLAPPING]
>> AT THE CONCESSION, THEY HAVE HAD THE SEPTIC TANK; IS THAT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF?
>> YES. THE CONCRETE TILES HAVE BEEN REMOVED, FALSE SLABS. PRETTY MUCH, YEAH.
>> REMEMBER HOW IT WAS LAST YEAR WE HAD SPINNING OLD LIGHT POLES AND CONCESSION STAND [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF YOU GO DOWN, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE AN OPEN FIELD.
[OVERLAPPING] IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT.
>> RATHER THAN LOOKING AT THE SUN.
>> I SEE A WHEEL SPINNING OVER THERE.
I'M THE MAYOR. I'LL FLAG IT OUT.
>> BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THAT FIRST BOND TO IT AND FILL OUT.
>> OKAY. I GOT YOU. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NOW WE TAKE OUT OUR YEAR LEASE AND [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
>> ARE WE GOING TO THE REC CENTER? [BACKGROUND]
>> IT'S ON PAGE 8, SAME TIME, IT'S THE SAME PAGE.
>> THIS IS YOUR SUMMARY OF REVENUES AND REC EXPENDITURES.
I MEAN, WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY.
YOU CAN SEE IN EXPENDITURES, WE ARE REDUCING BY QUITE A BIT.
[NOISE] MAYBE YOU WANT TO SEE THE GRAPH ON NINE, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT.
WHICH FUND REVENUE OR I DON'T SEE A PAYMENT AROUND HERE?
>> EXPENSES. GREAT. AGAIN, WHAT YOU REALLY SEE MAJOR CHANGES ARE WE'RE REDUCING WAGES HERE AND REC SERVICES.
WE HAVE A SLIGHT INCREASE AND SOME ALLOWANCE BECAUSE WE CONSTANTLY CALL OUR FACILITY AND AQUATIC MANAGERS.
WE HAVE GIVEN THEM MORE RESPONSIBILITIES.
YOU HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES: DIRECT SUPERINTENDENT [INAUDIBLE] MANAGER, AND AQUATIC MANAGER.
WHAT ARE SOME MAJOR THINGS? ONE OF THE REQUESTS LAST YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE COVID YEAR, ADLT ASKED US TO CUT BACK DRASTICALLY ON SOME OF OUR TYPICAL STANDARD PURCHASES.
ONE OF THOSE BEING EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT IN ROUTE 10.
WE NEED TO ADD THAT BACK IN FOR WEIGHT ROOM EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE.
LET ME SEE WHAT ELSE. [NOISE] YOU LOOK AT PAGE [OVERLAPPING]
>> GET SOME BIG BRICKS AND THEN I'M GOING TO PICK THEM UP. [LAUGHTER]
>> [INAUDIBLE] WE MADE BIG CUTS BECAUSE OF- [OVERLAPPING]
>> - COVID AND LOTS OF CENTRAL REVENUE BECAUSE OF SOCIAL DISTANCING, THERE CAN'T BE TRIPS AND WHATEVER.
WE'VE ROLLED BACK UP, OUR PROJECTION IS WHATEVER, WE'RE PROJECTING FOR [OVERLAPPING]
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>> JERRY, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT WITH THIS, OUR DAILY TAXES? INITIALLY WHEN WE DO BUDGET, I MEAN, WE START EARLY IN THE YEAR UNTIL MARCH AND APRIL.
WE'RE TRYING TO CALCULATE WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN HIT OUR PEAK SEASON, WHICH IS SUMMER, OBVIOUSLY.
WHAT SHE HAD FOUND IS IF YOU GO [INAUDIBLE] WEEK AT THE REC CENTER, ITS LIKE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST YEAR.
>> THAT'S LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AN ESTIMATE, WE HAD BETWEEN MEMBERS COMING IN THROUGH THE DOOR AND MADE PASSES, WE 13,000 PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE REC CENTER.
>> SO OUR DAILY REVENUE WHICH IS ENTRY SALES IS EXCEEDING WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PROJECTED.
INITIALLY, WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING IS ABOUT A 50, 55,000 SHORTFALL.
WE WILL PROBABLY MAKE UP QUITE A BIT OF THAT.
>> I WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN PROJECTIONS, WE'RE BACK ON TRACK FOR A GOOD FISCAL YEAR AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO CONCERN OURSELVES AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WATCH IT.
>> BUT IT HAS ALLOWED US TO RECOGNIZE AREAS WHERE WE CAN CUT BACK.
JERRY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB [INAUDIBLE] OF USING THE COST RECOVERY PYRAMID AND METHODOLOGY THAT WE ADOPTED.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW CAN SUMMER CAN'T BE REWORKED SO THAT IT MEETS COST RECOVERY STANDARDS? BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT REALLY DRAINED UPON BUDGET.
WE WERE SPENDING UP TO 20,000 OR MORE THAN THAT.
>> THIRTY THOUSAND ON [INAUDIBLE] ALONE, 6,000, 4,000 ON TRANSPORTATION AND 20,000 ON THE ACTUAL PROGRAM OF SUPPLIES AND [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE WERE MAKING IT EVEN ON A GOOD YEAR WHICH WE GOT ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF THAT.
WITH A LARGE EXTENT [INAUDIBLE] WE ARE WORKING CAMP AND STILL OPERATING CAMP THAT'S OFFERING THEM MINIMAL STAFF [OVERLAPPING] MINIMAL AMOUNT BUT DIFFERENT OPTION AS WELL.
>> STILL MEETING OUR ORDINANCE STANDARD.
>> YES. THERE'S ALSO VARIOUS OTHER CAMPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH LIKE THE GOLF CLUBS.
THERE IS VARIOUS CHURCHES THAT HOSTS CAMPS AS WELL.
>> WE'RE TRYING TO, EXACTLY WHAT JERRY IS SAYING, IF YOU FIND THAT A SERVICE IS BEING OFFERED IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO OFFER THE SAME SERVICE.
[NOISE] THE PERFECT EXAMPLE, AND I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS, I THINK SOMETIME THIS YEAR, WHY DON'T YOU DO AN EASTER EGG HUNT? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT CHURCHES ALL AROUND TOWN THAT HAVE ANNUAL EASTER EGG HUNTS.
>> AS THE CITY PARTNER, WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING IS HELPING ADVERTISE THAT THERE ARE A TON OF EASTER EGG HUNTS AND HERE'S WHERE THEY ARE AND WHEN THEY ARE.
SO SAME THING, ONCE A SERVICE IS BEING OFFERED.
BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OPENED A HUGE JUST SUMMER CAMP OPPORTUNITY THIS PAST SUMMER.
WE DIDN'T GO BACK TO OUR 80 PARTICIPANT MAX ON SUMMER CAMP.
WE'RE RE-WORKING THINGS TO BE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN OUR EXPENDITURES.
WE RECOGNIZE SOME OF THOSE MEASURES THIS PAST YEAR AND WE'RE GOING TO RETAIN SOME OF THEM.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME DECREASES IN EXPENDITURES.
LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE. [NOISE] TRYING TO LOOK AT.
>> I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT THIS RESURGENCE IN ATTENDANCE WOULD MAINTAIN [OVERLAPPING] A LITTLE BIT CRAZY THOUGH IT MAY BE, GOOD TO GO BUSY KIND OF WAY [OVERLAPPING]
>> YES, AND SO WE'RE CONSERVATIVE WITH OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS. WE BUDGETED.
WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT BUDGET IS AN AVERAGE OF A COVID YEAR AND A NON-COVID YEAR, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.
>> YEAH, STILL BE CONSERVATIVE.
>> WAITING FOR A LITTLE BIT WOULD BE-
>> BEST FOR THE BATCH. [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT ALSO ALVIN WANTED [INAUDIBLE] CLOSED.
FROM MY KNOWLEDGE AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS COMING FROM THAT AREA TO OURS.
WE'RE THE ONLY RECREATION CENTER IN THE AREA COUNTY THAT IS OPEN ON SUNDAY AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON THAT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE COMING IN.
>> IS LAKE JACKSON? REALLY? WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?
>> LAKE JACKSON ACTUALLY, CLOSE ON SUNDAYS.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FELT LIKE WE WERE GOING [NOISE] TO EVALUATE TO ITS CLOSURES ON CITY HOLIDAYS BECAUSE WE'RE OPEN.
[LAUGHTER] LOOKING AT WHAT COST SAVINGS WOULD THAT BE, PRODUCING HOURS. TRAVIS?
>> WE DO HAVE CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE OUTLINE'S HERE.
WE HAVE A ROOM DIVIDER CURTAIN WE WERE IN DIRE NEED OF.
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WE ARE PROPOSING, IT WAS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE AREAS WITH THE AUTOMATIC DOORS INTO OUR POOL AND AUDITORIUM AREA, POOL DAMPERS.WE HAD OTHER EXPENSES AND THEN AUDITORIUM ISSUES THAT WE HAD TO ADDRESS AND SO POOL DAMPERS WAS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BUT WE DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH IT BECAUSE WE HAD OTHER PRESSING ISSUES.
THE POOL DAMPERS HELP US REGULATE THE TEMPERATURE IN AN AUDITORIUM.
WE DON'T HAVE A POOL AQUATIC HVAC SYSTEM.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE IN THE FUTURE [LAUGHTER], BUT WE DON'T HAVE ONE NOW, SO THOSE DAMPERS ARE SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD ON.
THEN WE'D LIKE TO REPLACE THE SCOREBOARD IN THE GYM.
[NOISE] LET'S GET TO REVENUES HERE.
I'M SORRY, I WENT BACKWARD, MY APOLOGIES.
>>IT WAS COLD WAR AND THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH [LAUGHTER] GYMS AREN'T GOING TO GET USED EVER AGAIN? [OVERLAPPING]
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE DON'T USE THAT MUCH, WE'RE STILL WORKING [LAUGHTER]
>> YEAH, LIKE I DON'T KNOW. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY'RE GOING TO THROW IT AWAY A LOT OF THOSE.
>> WELL GIVE YOU- [OVERLAPPING]
>> [INAUDIBLE] AND PAY FOR WHAT THEY NEED.
>> COUNTY JAIL AND WHATEVER ABILITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
>> THE MAYOR WILL PUT THE SCOREBOARD IDEA THROUGH.
>> BUT YOU HAVE A- [OVERLAPPING]
>> SEE HOW MANY PAIRS WE'RE GETTING THERE.
>> YOU SEE THAT WE PUT THE SAME COMMENT IN EACH OF OUR REVENUE PROJECTION.
[NOISE] THE JURY TOOK APRIL'S WEEKLY AVERAGE MULTIPLIED BY 27 REMAINING WEEKS AND ADDED HERE TO DATE AMOUNT.
WAS IT JUST AN AVERAGE OF APRIL DO YOU HAVE A NON-COVID YEAR?
>> I THINK IT WAS THE AVERAGE OF APRIL.
>> YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT INCLUDING OUR PEAK SEASONS.
ORIGINALLY, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE WERE ANTICIPATING A BUDGET DEFICIT OF ABOUT 55,000.
WE BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UP SOME OF THAT IN OUR DAILY ENTRY FEES.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? [NOISE]
>> SUMMER CAMP WAS ALWAYS A BIG THING FOR THIS PARK PROGRAM.
>> THAT WAS REALLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS BUDGETED FOR.
THE CITIZENS ALWAYS GAVE A REALLY GOOD RESPONSE TO BUT I HATE TO SEE US.
>> WE'RE NOT CUTTING IT OUT COMPLETELY.
BUT AGAIN, NEED TO HAVE THIS SERVICE BEING OFFERED ELSEWHERE AND WE ARE NOT MAKING MONEY ON IT.
WE'RE LOSING MONEY ON THE PROGRAM.
>> WE SAID THIS YEAR WE WANTED TO OFFER MORE, SO I'M THINKING MORE KIDS.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE WENT OUT FOR GLOBAL EXCURSION AND SO MANY OF THEM ARE OFFERING THEIR OWN.
JUST NOW, THEY WEREN'T INVITING US IN TO USE THEIR SPACES BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT LEASING IT.
WHAT CAN WE DO? IT TURNED INTO WE HAD BREATHING HALF THE GYM FOR CAMP AND THEN THE OTHER HALF IS WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH [INAUDIBLE] BASKETBALL.
[NOISE] BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO CUT OFF ANY MEMBERSHIP AMENITIES TO THOSE WHO WANT TO UTILIZE.
IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN FIND A BIGGER FACILITY.
THE SCHOOL WASN'T OFFERING AT THE TIME TO COME IN AND UTILIZE THEIR PARTNER GYM.
>> FANTASTIC LOCATION, BUT THAT WASN'T OPEN.
>> THEY'LL PROBABLY BOOK MINE.
>>IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE COULD DO EVERYTHING OUTSIDE THERE, EVERYTHING ON LOCATION INSTEAD OF HEADING OFF AMENITIES BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD.
AT THE RECREATION CENTER, WE WERE CLOSING THE GYM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, EIGHT TILL FIVE.
[OVERLAPPING] DROP OFF THEIR KIDS AT 8 AM AND THEY'LL PICK THEM UP AT SIX IN CAMP.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HAVING EFFORT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT BACK FULL.
IF WE COULD EITHER GET ADDITION LOCATION OR LIKE WE SAID, FIND THE SCHOOL WHERE THEY'LL OFFER AND LET US COME BACK IN TO PAY TO HAVE THE ADMIN THEN TO ADMIN BUILDING, GYMNASIUM.
THERE'S LOCKER ROOMS, THERE'S THE GRASS FIELD, WILL CONVERT GRASS FIELDS OUT THERE.
[LAUGHTER] BUT THEY'RE EVEN IN THE FRONT AREA.
THERE'S GRASS FIELDS THERE, THERE'S SHADED AREA WHERE THEY COULD DO LUNCH OUTSIDE OR INSIDE.
BUT IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT HAVING AMENITIES.
[NOISE] WHERE ARE YOU TAKING 85 KIDS AND SHOVING 85 KIDS INTO ONE SIDE OF THE GYM.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 45 AND IT GETS PRETTY PACKED.
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>> ABOUT THE FIELD TRIP, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY LOVED IT.
I THINK IT WAS LIKE AN ASTROS GAME, THE ZOO.
[OVERLAPPING] LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
>> THAT WAS WHAT A LOT OF THE PARENTS ALWAYS SAID WAS PROBABLY THE GREATEST THING ABOUT THAT PROGRAM.
>> YEAH. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT JERRY'S WORKING ON THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, ARE DOING LIKE SEASONAL CAMPS.
[OVERLAPPING] THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRIP-BASED.
>> WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT DOING, FOR YOU ALL KNOW, LIKE A FALL CAMP.
ALL THE KIDS THAT WE'VE NOTICED THAT IN THE YEARS PAST THAT WHEN WE MAY CLOSE FOR THE FAIR, SO MANY KIDS ARE SHOWING.
THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE ONES WHO DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO.
WE'RE LOOKING AT OPENING A THREE DAYS CAMP FOR THAT TO WHERE WE CAN TAKE PROBABLY 45 KIDS OR WHATEVER WITH STAFF ALREADY HAS LOOKING AT THAT.
THEN ALSO DURING THE HOLIDAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A BOWLING DAY, SO WE CAN UTILIZE OUR LITTLE RECREATIONAL BUS.
WE HAVE WORKING WITH CONTRACTED DRIVERS ON THAT AS WELL THERE ARE JUST OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO DO.
WHERE MAYBE NOT SUMMER CAMPS SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY AREAS OFFERING SUMMER CAMPS, BUT THAT WE CAN HIT ON THESE AREAS TOO.
>> I WAS THINKING UTILIZING OUR PEOPLE AROUND HERE.
A TRIP TO MULLIGANS, A TRIP THE BOWLING ALLEY.
>> THINGS LIKE THAT [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE'RE GETTING [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT? [LAUGHTER].
>> THROW AT THE WALL AND NOT EACH OTHER.
[LAUGHTER] I KNOW A LOT OF NINE-YEAR-OLDS THAT ARE REALLY GOOD AT THROWING THAT AX.
>> ONE KID AT A TIME. [LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT.
>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S BRING SKYLER IN.
WE DON'T NEED A BREAK NOW. [LAUGHTER].
>> THINK WE'LL BE TAKING OUR BREAK. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SCOTT SAID HE'S GOING TO GIVE US 45 MINUTES BACK.
>> ALL RIGHT. SCOTT, YOU'RE UP MAN.
FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF RUNDOWN ON HOW THE DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND WHERE WE GET MONEY FROM AND HOW THEY WORK.
OUR DEPARTMENT HAS ACTUALLY THREE GENERAL BUDGETS THAT WE MANAGE UNDER THE CHIEF MANAGER.
THE FIRST BUDGET, OBVIOUSLY IS THE CITY BUDGET.
THE NEXT BUDGET IS THE ESV BUDGET.
WHAT THE ESV IS, THE CITY GETS A CHECK FROM THE ESV QUARTER [NOISE] AND THEN THAT GOES INTO A DIFFERENT FUND, WHICH IS THE 107 FUND.
THEN THE THIRD BUDGET IS THE DONATION FUNDS THAT WE GET AS AN ASSOCIATION [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE].
JUST THE CHIEF AND THE DEPARTMENT TREASURER DEAL WITH ALL THAT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL GO OVER THE CITY FUND ALONE.
YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKETS AN INCREASE IN SALARIES.
WHAT THAT IS IS AN INCREASE IN ONE, THEY GOT ONE PAY FOR FIREFIGHTERS.
I REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT, WELL, LAST TWO YEARS.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE FOUR PAID FIREFIGHTERS, ONE PAID MAINTENANCE MAN, AND AN ADMIN.
WE HAVE A CAPTAIN AND A LIEUTENANT AND TWO FIREMEN.
SO ADDING A FIFTH FIREMAN, THE REASON WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THIS IS NUMBER 1, IT FILLS UP THE TRUCK.
[NOISE] WE HAVE A CAPTAIN THAT IS CONSIDERED THE INCIDENT COMMAND IN ANYTHING DURING THE DAY IF THE CHIEF IS NOT THERE.
WITH OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE, HE CANNOT EFFECTIVELY COMMAND AND INCIDENT BECAUSE HE IS ACTUALLY DOING WORK.
HE'S ACTUALLY GOING IN FIGHTING FIRE WITH HIS CREW.
SOGS REQUIRE TWO MEN; TWO IN, TWO OUT.
WE CAN SEND TWO PEOPLE IN A HOUSE NOW, WE ALL HAVE A SAFE DEPARTMENT.
WE ALL HAVE VOLUNTEERS RESPOND WITH THE PAID CREW.
ALSO, ADDING THE FIFTH GUY WILL PUT THE CAPTAIN ON A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY SCHEDULE.
SO NOW YOU HAVE A SUPERVISION, AN AUTHORITATIVE FIGURE THERE THAT CAN SUPERVISE THE GUYS FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
CURRENTLY, OUR STRUCTURE IS WE HAVE WITHOUT WORKING [NOISE] ON MONDAY AND FRIDAY, WE HAVE ONLY TWO FIREMEN ON DUTY TO WORK A SPLIT SHIFT.
WE HAVE A MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND A TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
THEN WE ALSO SPLIT THEIR TIME.
[NOISE]. TWO COME IN AT 6:00, TWO COME IN AT [INAUDIBLE].
THAT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WE ONLY HAVE A TWO MAN CREW.
WHAT THIS WILL DO IS SUPPORT THREE MEN ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AT A MINIMUM.
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ALSO, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT SALARY ACTUALLY WAS SPLIT IN HALF BECAUSE DURING THEIR NEGOTIATION WE DISCUSSED STARTING THIS MID-YEAR [INAUDIBLE].>> DID JOHN [INAUDIBLE] ANYTHING FOR HIMSELF IN THE LAST YEAR? [LAUGHTER]
>> NO, AND JUST REAL QUICK WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE BOOK IS OBVIOUSLY THE SUMMARY, BUT WE HAVE SHEETS JUST LIKE THIS UP HERE.
THAT'S THE SUMMARY OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IT TELLS YOU THAT THE COMMENT THAT'S GOT A SPLIT IN THERE.
THERE'S YOUR BUDGET CHANGE, THAT 156,000 IS WHAT'S GOING UP FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND THERE IS HIS COMMENT TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
THOSE GET TRANSFERRED TO THE SUMMARY SHEET FOR THE WHOLE [INAUDIBLE].
THERE ON THE SUMMARY SHEET THAT HAS EXACTLY WHAT THE BIG ITEMS ARE CHANGED.
SO WE DO HAVE THOSE ITEMS IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FORMAT THAN WHAT YOU'RE USED TO.
I MEAN, IN THE LAST YEAR THAT LIST THAT WAS IN THE FRONT WAS REALLY THE STUFF THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE.
THAT WAS STUFF THAT GOT REMOVED.
IF WE REMOVE SOMETHING THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT LIST SO WE HAVE IT NEXT TIME AS WELL, BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FORMAT.
>> ONE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE TO SHARE AS FAR AS HIRING ANOTHER PAID GUY, MY GOAL HERE IS TO HIRE A HEAD OF ATTRITION.
OUR PAID CAPTAIN, HE WENT AND GOT HIS TCLEOS.
YOU'VE GOT TCFP FOR FIRE, YOU'VE GOT TCLEOS FOR PD.
HIS ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO BE IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND SO THAT'S OUR PAID CAPTAIN.
HE'S GOT THAT CERTIFICATE NOW, HE COULD LEAVE AT ANYTIME.
HE SAYS HE HAS NO AMBITIONS OF LEAVING RIGHT NOW, BUT HE COULD GO TO THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE [INAUDIBLE].
SO MY GOAL HERE IS TO TRY TO HIRE ANOTHER GUY THAT COULD STEP IN AND MAYBE TAKE THAT OVER.
A GUY WITH SOME SUPERVISORY EXPERIENCE, LEADERSHIP, THAT TYPE OF THING.
WE'VE GOT SOME GUYS ALSO WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE WENT AND GOT THEIR TCFP, SO WE'VE GOT A POOL OF GUYS IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE CAN PULL FROM WHENEVER WE PUT IT THROUGH.
>> THIS TIME WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE RETIREMENT?
>> ANY THE QUESTIONS ON THE SAME?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S MADE UP IN ALL THE ACRONYMS.
>> TEXAS COMMISSION OF FIRE PROTECTION.
YOUR VOLUNTEERS ARE GOVERNED THROUGH SFFMA, STATE FIREFIGHTER FIRE MARSHALS ASSOCIATION, AND YOUR PAID GUYS ARE TCFP.
CRAZY THAT IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT IT IS [LAUGHTER].
WELL, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON SALARIES WE'LL MOVE ON.
GOING DOWN INTO YOUR 200, I'LL JUST REAL QUICKLY COVER ANYTHING THAT'S INCREASED QUITE A BIT.
YOUR EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES 220 INCREASE.
WHAT THAT IS, THE BIG INCREASE THERE ARE THE TRUCK COMPUTERS.
WE'VE BEEN EXPERIMENTING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS ON GETTING THESE COMPUTERS IN THESE TRUCKS.
WE STARTED OUT WITH IPAD AND IPADS WORKED GOOD FOR REPORT WRITING AND MAPPING.
NOW THAT WE'RE MOVING A LITTLE FURTHER, WE'RE GETTING INTO CAD.
IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THAT ANGLETON PD USES SO WE HAVE THE [NOISE].
WE CAN LOOK UP CALL HISTORY, WE CAN HAVE MAPPING, WE HAVE ALL OUR FREE PLANS, ELECTRONIC REPORT WRITING.
EVERYTHING IS DONE IN THE TRUCK NOW VERSUS THE HANDWRITTEN PAPERS COMING BACK TO THE STATION, FINISH IT OUT, PUT IT IN A BOX, AND THEN OUR ADMIN GOES IN AND [INAUDIBLE] OR WHATEVER.
WE ACTUALLY [INAUDIBLE] ON REPAIRS MONEY TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT AND WE TOOK IT OFF THERE AND ADDED IT TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGETS.
SO THE BIG RAISE THAT YOU SEE THERE IS TO FINISH OUT THESE COMPUTERS IN THE TRUCKS.
ANY QUESTIONS THERE? [NOISE] MOVING ALONG.
>> IS THE REPAIRS MONEY ALL SPOKEN FOR?
>> ARE YOU CATCHING ON ME? [LAUGHTER] BETTER TAKE THAT STRATEGY.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT LAB AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THAT YET, SO IT'S OBLIGATED.
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[BACKGROUND] MOVING ON, WE'LL SEE A SMALL INCREASE IN THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ITEMS. BASICALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'VE GOT A FIVE PERCENT INCREASE ON THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF THE VEHICLES PER YEAR AND THEN A THREE PERCENT INCREASE ON REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE ON EQUIPMENT. THAT'S ALL YOU'LL SEE THERE.
>>ON THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF BUILDINGS, YOU'LL SEE A LARGE INCREASE THERE.
THAT INCREASE IS MOSTLY DUE TO STATION 1.
WE CONTINUE TO PUT MONEY INTO STATION 1 EVERY YEAR TO TRY TO BRING THAT STATION BACK UP TO PAR.
IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR MANY YEARS.
[NOISE] YOU'LL ALSO SEE ONCE WE GET TO THE 107 FUNDS, WHICH IS THE EFC FUNDS, WHILE WE'RE PAIRING UP SOME OF THAT MONEY TO GO INTO THE STATION 1 REPAIRS ALSO.
[NOISE] ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS IS THE STATION 2 FLOORS.
BUT WE DID STATION 1 FLOORS, STATION 3 FLOORS ARE IN PROGRESS, STATION 2 FLOORS WILL BE NEXT YEAR.
IT'S A VERY SMALL STATION, IT'S A MINIMAL COST.
>> STATION 2 [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE]
>> THEY DID. THEY'RE WORKING IT OUT GOOD.
WE ARE HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE STRIPING.
>> THEY'RE WORKING IN THE SUMMER. I THINK THAT THE WEATHER'S KILLING US.
>> THAT'S PRETTY GUYS WHO ARE DOING THE CHAIR RAISES DOWN THE LINE.
>> I CAN'T KEEP THE GUYS FROM PICKING UP CHAIRS [LAUGHTER].
I WENT TO THE STATION A FEW WEEKS AGO AND THERE'S THIS OFFICE CHAIR STUCK IN THE ENGINE BAY AND IT'S GOT DUCT TAPE ALL OVER IT AND I'M LIKE, "WHAT IS THIS? " THEY'RE LIKE, "OH MAN, I PICKED THAT UP OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD." THAT'S AN AWESOME CHAIR AND IT'S LIKE A JUDGE THERE, RIGHT?
>> IT JUST SITS THERE. ANYWAY. [LAUGHTER]
>> THAT'S GOOD QUALITY DUCT TAPE.
[LAUGHTER] ON THE SCREEN RIGHT THERE, THAT'S EVERYTHING.
SCOTT'S LISTED EVERYTHING AT 10, 3:20 WORRY.
>> [NOISE]. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE?
>> THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE ARE WORKING OUT THIS NEXT YEAR IS ADDING THE BUNK ROOMS TO STATION 1.
NEXT LEVEL OF RESPONSE OR PREPAREDNESS IS A VOLUNTEER ON CALL.
CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY VOLUNTEER ON CALL.
VOLUNTEERS, THEY RESPOND BY PAGERS.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO'S AVAILABLE.
WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO IS A VOLUNTEER ON CALL.
THE THOUGHT IS IT WILL ALLOW THESE GUYS TO PLAN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE CALLS THAT DAY, SO THEY CAN PLAN AROUND THEIR FAMILY AND ALL THAT AND [NOISE] MAKE THE CALLS WHENEVER THAT PAGER GOES OFF.
ALSO THERE IS A INITIATIVE OUT THERE THAT IS ALLOWABLE.
WELL, WE CAN DO A PAID VOLUNTEER ON CALL AND SO WE CAN PAY A VOLUNTEER TO COVER A 12 HOUR SHIFT.
CAN'T PAY THEM BY THE HOUR, BUT WE CAN GIVE THEM AN INITIATIVE X AMOUNT OF MONEY, A 100 BUCKS.
>> JUST TO BE THERE. WHAT THAT DOES, THEY DO HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON IT.
THEY DO. IT'S NOT A REIMBURSEMENT, IT'S AN INITIATIVE.
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WATCH.
TAKES THIS LABOR LAWS REQUIRES TO WATCH, CAN'T MAKE WITHIN 20 PERCENT OF A PAPER OR FODDER ON THOSE THINGS.
BEFORE WE GET THERE, WE NEED TO BUILD SOME BUNK ROOMS. I'M LOOKING AT A BUILDING THREE OR FOUR BUNK ROOMS THERE IN THE STATION UPSTAIRS, AND POSSIBLY USED DURING HURRICANES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> SCOTT, DO YOU WANT TO MAYBE WHILE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUNK ROOMS, DO THAT AFFECTS FUTURE STORAGE? IS THE BUILDING BEHIND THE BACK?
>> WE WERE LOOKING AT, YOU'LL SEE IN THE SEAL AT STATION 1 ADD ON, IT'S A $160,000, I BELIEVE IS WHAT OUR ESTIMATE WAS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING A THREE BAY BUILDING IN THE BACK.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK OF THE STATION, THERE'S A CONCRETE SLAB BETWEEN US AND A CHAMBER.
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THREE [NOISE] BUILDING THERE AND HAD ONE BAY WOULD BE GOOD STORAGE.
THE OTHER TWO BAYS WOULD BE EXTRA TRUNKS, SO PROBABLY THE TWO FUTONS WOULD GO IN THERE, TRICKS THAT WE DON'T USE ALL THE TIME.
WE'RE USING IT FOR STORAGE, IF YOU GO UPSTAIRS, WE HAVE A LOT OF CLUTTER UPSTAIRS. WE'RE OUT OF ROOM.
WE'VE GOT SOME STUFF THAT COULD BE TOWED AWAY LIKE OUR GEIGER COUNTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
[LAUGHTER] BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE BUNK ROOMS BUILT,
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE STORAGE OUT OF THERE, GET IT SOMEWHERE ELSE SO I CAN GET THE BUNK ROOMS. YEAH. ALSO I'M GOING TO MOVE IT ONTO THE CIP, BUT ALSO YOU'LL SEE IN THE CIP AS YEARS PROGRESS, YOU'LL SEE A VERY LARGE OVER THE FIVE OR SIX YEARS ARE VERY LARGE LINE AMOUNT OF $1.1 MILLION FOR STATION 1.THAT IS, IF WE DECIDE TO COMPLETELY ADD ON THE STATION 1 TO MAKE THIS.
WE PUT OUR BUNK ROOMS, OUR OFFICES, ALL OF THAT AT STATION 1.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT A NICE AUDIT COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF [INAUDIBLE].
>> IF YOU HAD TO CUT, 1.1 IS GOOD, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? [LAUGHTER].
>> SERVE WITH THAT FORM.[LAUGHTER]
>> THEY'RE ALL EQUALLY IMPORTANT, JOHN.
YOU LOOK AT THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING TOO.
INCLUDE EXTERIOR LIGHTING, CURRENTLY HAVE NO LIGHTS, STATION 2 AND 3.
STATION 3 HAS SOME PORCH LIGHTS ABOVE, BUT THERE'S NO SECURITY LIGHTING THERE WHATSOEVER.
THE GUYS WENT ON AMAZON [NOISE] AND SOLAR POWERED PORCH LIGHTS, AND PUT ON THE POLES OVER THERE. I DON'T KNOW.
TO ME, THEY'RE ALL EQUALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY DO A PROXY BOARD.
IT'S A DIRTY ISSUE OVER THERE, THE FLOORS WERE RE-DONE 12 YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE, AND NOW THEY'RE BUILDING UP.
WE GOT 12 GOOD YEARS OUT OF THEM.
IN CASE YOU WANT TO REMODEL, IN ORDER TO MOVE TO THE NEXT BEST STEP, WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE BUNK ROOMS.
>> IT'S 135 PERCENT, BE OVER YOUR CHANGE IS JUMP STYLE.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS STATION, WELL OVER, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS A LITTLE AT A TIME.
MAYBE IT'S EASIER TO DO DONE RIGHT AND NOT DONE AS BADLY.
LIGHTS ARE A SAFETY THING TOO.
WHETHER DARK OR NIGHT, WHATEVER AND TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MY MAIN CONCERN WAS THE GUY'S PERSONAL VEHICLES ARE STANDING OUT THERE.
THEY'RE DRIVING THEIR TRUCKS OUT THERE, THEY'RE JUMPING OUT, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE LOCKING THEM. THEY'RE IN A HURRY.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE LIGHTING?
>> WE HAVE A LIGHTING ISSUE ALL THROUGH. [OVERLAPPING].
>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR FIRE FIGHTERS STOP AT THE STATION TO GUARD BUT WE ALSO HAVE LOTS OF STREETS THAT ARE DARK AS WELL.
>> STRUCTURE TAKEN ABOUT MOUNTING STUFF TO THIS EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
>> WHAT I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS I'M LOOKING AT THE SOLAR POWERED LIGHT THAT WE'RE PUTTING ACTUALLY ON THE STREET.
THEY HAD SOME OVER AT PUBLIC WORKS AND SOME NEW ONES HAD SECURITY CAMERAS WITH THEM.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THAT TRYING TO GET A BULK DEAL ON THOSE.
>> I GOT SOME LYING ON THE GROUND OUT THERE AS WELL. [LAUGHTER].
>> YOU HAD A VINTAGE OF THAT WHEN [OVERLAPPING]
>> HEY, IT'LL GO WITH OUR VINTAGE MARSDEN.
UNDER SERVICES, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE AT THE TOP.
YOU'LL SEE A HUGE CHANGE IN CONTRACT LABOR.
WE'LL DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT I DID IS I WENT OUT AND GOT SOME ESTIMATE ON A ISO AUDIT [NOISE] THAT'S JUST A REAL QUICK SUMMARY.
>> THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PHASES.
>> WHAT THIS SUMMARY DOES, WHAT THIS AUDIT DOES FOR US.
OUR LAST AUDIT, I LOOKED IT UP THIS MORNING.
I WILL SAY OUR LAST AUDIT WAS 2005, 2006.
>> THE BIG THING THAT I'M LOOKING OUT WITH THIS ISO AUDIT. THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN.
THIS GUY USED TO ACTUALLY DO ISO AUDITS.
THIS IS A CONTRACT FIRM THAT WOULD COME IN, AND HE WOULD DO AN ISO AUDIT BEFORE THE ACTUAL ISO AUDIT.
HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT OUR SYSTEM.
GOING TO LOOK AT OUR FIRE HYDRANTS, HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT OUR COMMUNICATION, HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT OUR RESPONSE, OUR TRAINING, OUR EQUIPMENT, OUR FIRE STATION.
HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT ALL THIS, HE'S GOING TO GIVE US A GRADE.
HE'S GOING TO GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE ON.
CURRENTLY, WE ARE FOURTH FOR THE FIRE SERVICE, WHICH IS NOT REAL BAD FOR A VOLUNTEER SERVICE.
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WE'VE IMPROVED MOST EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE WROTE UP ON THE ORIGINAL ISO AUDIT.WE WROTE UP ON SOME TRAINING ISSUES, SOME PUMP TEST ISSUES, SOME EQUIPMENT ISSUES.
THIS THING THAT THIS AUDIT DOES FOR US IS, THIS GUY'S GOING TO DO A STUDY OF THE GROWTH AND THE STUDY OF THE CITY.
HE'S GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE CONTINUE TO PUT CLIMBING STATION 1 OR THAT MONEY BETTER SPENT BUILDING A STATION AT ANOTHER PLACE BASED ON CITY GROWTH.
THAT'S THE HUGE PIECE OF INFORMATION I THINK, BECAUSE WE CAN CONTINUE TO SPEND 50 TO A $100,000 ON STATION 1 AND THEN NOT HELP US IN OUR ISO.
HE'S ALSO GOING TO DO A STUDY AND IT'LL TELL US BASED ON GROWTH, HOW MUCH MONEY IS IT GOING TO COST US TO BRING STATION 1 UP TO PAR VERSUS BUILD ANOTHER STATION AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
[NOISE] THE STUDY'S REALLY EXPENSIVE.
HOWEVER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THE PHASES.
PHASE 1 IS WHERE HE COMES IN AND HE LOOKS AND HE MAKES HIS SUGGESTIONS.
PHASE 2, HE COMES IN AND CREATES THE PAPERWORK FOR US THAT WE'VE SEEN TWO ISOS.
IN PHASE 3, HE COMES IN WHEN THE ISO AUDITOR COMES.
HE'S OUR REPRESENTATIVE, AND HE TAKES CARE OF ALL OF THAT WITH HIS [INAUDIBLE] IF WE DID NOT WANT TO FOLLOW THE ISO, ALL WE WANTED TO DO WAS DO THE STUDY, GET HIS RECOMMENDATION AND WE WORK ON RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT 20,000 FOR THAT.
>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT DOESN'T THE ISO HELP INSURANCE RATES? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT HELPS YOUR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE RATE IN THE AREA.
THE FURTHER YOU GO DOWN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS, ON THE HILL.
THERE ARE SOME INSURANCE COMPANIES WHO COULD USE AN ISO.
[NOISE] WHILE I WAS DOING THIS, I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH AND I FOUND THAT OUT, WHICH SURPRISED ME.
BUT THERE ARE SOME INSURANCE, SOME LARGER INSURANCE COMPANIES WHO CAME UP WITH THEIR OWN SCORING.
THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO USE ISO, THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE A SYSTEM.
[NOISE] BUT MOST STILL USE ISOS.
>> I'M FAMILIAR WITH AN OLD TERM CALLED KEY RATE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL OF USE.
WE TEST A LITTLE FAR PREDICTION'S.
>> IT THINK IT'S THE SAME THING.
HOW'S YOUR MUNICIPALITY RATED? DID YOU GET LOWER INTEREST RATES? I THINK THAT WAS MEASURED THROUGH TEXAS, THE STATE INSURANCE COMMISSION.
>> REALLY, $40,000 SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT PAYS FOR ITSELF IF WE COULD PUT MONEY INTO STATION 1 AND START SAVING MONEY TO BUILD ELSEWHERE.
NOT KNOWING WHERE OUR FUTURE LIES BASED ON ISO RATINGS IS NOT A GOOD THING.
>> WELL IT HELPS TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE.
>> FOR SURE. BECAUSE BUILDING A NEW FIRE STATION'S NOT CHEAP.
WE COULD AT LEAST SPEND $3.5 MILLION NOW THERE'S UNAVAILABLE.
BUT YOU CAN'T JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION NEXT TO THE POLICE STATION.
HOPE IT'S GOOD RIGHT. [LAUGHTER]BASED ON ISO.
>> I THINK STATION 1 IS ON THE RIGHT SPOT VERSUS MARTIN.
>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO COME OUT.
I THINK HE'S GOING TO SAY STATION 1 IS GOOD.
I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US IF WE DO BUILD ANOTHER STATION, IT NEEDS TO BE BUILT FURTHER NORTH.
>> IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE'VE GOT SOME PROPERTY THAT WE OWN BEHIND STATION 3.
WE OWN ALL THAT PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO [INAUDIBLE] WE COULD ADD ONE THERE IF WE NEEDED TO VERSUS BUILD AN ENTIRE NEW FACILITY.
>> JEANIE PREFERS AND WILL TELL YOU THERE.
>> THERE'S TOO MUCH PERSONAL OPINION.
>> ONCE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A FIRE STATION.
THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS. IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, WHERE WOULD WE BUILD ANOTHER FIRE STATION? WE'VE GOTTEN PRETTY GOOD.
>> YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF [INAUDIBLE] THEM OUT
>> BUT THREE IS GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE.
>> HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THE COUNTY.
>> TO ME, THAT CAN HANDLE NORTH AND EAST. ADDING ONE THERE.
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[LAUGHTER]>> DID YOU HEAR THE TUNE OF THAT? [LAUGHTER]
>> SKY, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER FIREMEN?
>>YEAH. IT'S COMING UP IN [OVERLAPPING] ONE OF THE NEXT ONE.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THE MOCK AUDIT? THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE, THE LARGE RAISE IN THE CONTRACT LABOR.
I CALL IT THE MOCK AUDIT BECAUSE THAT'S CURRENTLY, ESSENTIALLY, WHAT IT IS UNLESS WE PULL THAT NEXT TRIGGER AND GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
[NOISE]. ALL RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE, JUST A LITTLE RISE THERE IN VEHICLE INSURANCE AND BUILDING INSURANCE.
>> ENTERPRISE AGAIN, I KEEP FORGETTING THIS BUT YOU'VE GOT TWO NEWER VEHICLES AND MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT INTEGRATING THEM IN THE ENTERPRISE?
>> YES. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN ENTERPRISE.
WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT ENTERPRISE AND THEY TOLD US TO WAIT TWO YEARS, JUST BASED ON WE HAD TWO NEW VEHICLES, THE MILEAGE ON OUR VEHICLES WERE NOT THAT HIGH SO THEY TOLD US TO WAIT TWO YEARS.
THAT TWO YEARS IS COMING, NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE END OF SESSIONS SO IT WILL PROBABLY BE THE NEXT YEAR AFTER. OKAY.
>> THE ESD. WE DONE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT?
>> NO. I'M ACTUALLY MISSING A PAGE SOMEWHERE.
>> HERE IT IS, VOLUNTEER PENSION.
IT WAS ON THE FIRST PAGE, THAT'S WHY CHRIS ASKED ME EARLIER [LAUGHTER] VOLUNTEER PENSION, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, THE LAST A COUPLE OF YEARS, WE RAISED THAT PENSION.
WHAT THE VOLUNTEER PENSION IS, IT'S THE PENSION MANAGED BY THE STATE, IT'S A MINIMUM OF $35 A MONTH PER PERSON.
WE WERE AT $35 PER MONTH FOR MANY YEARS.
WE RAISED IT IN 2015 OR 2011, I BELIEVE, TO $50 A MONTH AND WE STAYED AT $50 A MONTH UNTIL 2018.
IN 2018 WE DOUBLED IT TO 100 BUCKS A MONTH AND WENT TO $140, AND LAST YEAR WE WENT UP TO 150, I BELIEVE.
INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO UP, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TRYING TO MATCH OUR NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS, SO LIKE JACKSON DID 150, ALVIN DID 200 A MONTH FOR A FIREFIGHTER.
SO WHAT WE DID, WE GOT TO THAT 150 AND THEN WE SAID OKAY, SO FROM NOW ON WE'RE JUST GOING TO INCREASE IT FIVE PERCENT.
SO WE'RE AT THAT 150, SO WE'LL INCREASE IT BY FIVE PERCENT PER YEAR, JUST TO TRY TO KEEP UP.
WHAT DOES THE BOTTOM TO PENSION DO? AT THE AGE OF 50, WITH A MINIMUM OF 15 YEARS, THE VOLUNTEER CAN RETIRE AND CAN DRAW A MONTHLY PENSION.
SO AT $35 A MONTH, WHICH IS WHERE MYSELF, AND MAYOR WERE AT FOR YEARS, WE'RE LOOKING AT $300 - 400 A MONTH FOR RETIREMENT.
IT'S NOT MUCH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING.
AT A $150 A MONTH, AT 50 WITH 15 YEARS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1300 - 1500A MONTH FOR MORE RETIREMENT.
THE YOUNGER GUYS, THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY PUT IT IN 5-10 YEARS AND THEN THEY START THINKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE OLDER IN AGE.
THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER BENEFITS, THERE'S LIFE INSURANCE BENEFITS THERE, THERE'S THE BENEFIT THAT IF THEY GET HURT, THEY GET X AMOUNT OF MONEY, RIGHT NOW, $2,000 OR $5,000, SO THERE'S SOME OTHER BENEFITS THERE.
SO IT'S A HUGE RECRUITMENT TOOL AS WELL, WHEN WE CAN TELL GUYS WE DO HAVE A PENSION THERE ARE SOME THINGS THERE.
THEY HAVE CERTAIN CRITERIAS THEY HAVE TO MEET, SO THEY HAVE TO MEET 25 PERCENT OF ALL THE CALLS, THEY HAVE TO MAKE THAT PER YEAR AND THEN THEY HAVE TO MEET THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS WHICH IS 200 HOURS, I THINK, OF TRAINING PER YEAR, 220 HOURS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF TRAINING PER YEAR, AND THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE.
>> TRYING TO REMEMBER, WE STARTED THIS BOOST LAST YEAR AND THE HOPE IS TO CONTINUE TO GROW IT EVERY YEAR SO WE'RE COMPETITIVE WITH [INAUDIBLE]
>> I LIKE THAT IDEA, THE FIVE PERCENT.
>> YEAH, FIVE PERCENT. WHAT THAT DOES RIGHT NOW IS THIS RAISE PUTS US AT JUST OVER 157 [INAUDIBLE] IS WHERE IT PUTS US AT.
>> IT'S ONLY A $3,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST BUDGET AND THIS ONE AS FAR AS TEXAS.
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>> THAT'S YOUR PROOF? WHAT YOU GET ON THE BACK END AND [INAUDIBLE] ATTENTION.
>>ALL RIGHT. SORRY [INAUDIBLE] CHRIS.
>> [LAUGHTER] I THOUGHT IT WAS FURTHER DOWN.
>> [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] BUT IT'S ONLY $3000 BUT I THINK IT'S A HUGE TOOL FOR THAT HUGE. SO ARE WE GOING TO GO TO [INAUDIBLE] NOW?
>> NO. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ESD.
>> ALL RIGHT. SPECIAL FUNDS AND IT'S TO BE ON PAGE 57, ON SPECIAL.
ESD, GUYS, WORKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
ESD BUDGET IS NOT APPROVED TILL THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO BASICALLY, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS WHAT I PLAN TO GO ASK ESD FOR.
SO THIS BUDGET IS [NOISE] REVENUE STREAM, I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
IT'S NOT SET IN STONE YET, SO THEY MAY CUT SOMETHING THINGS FROM ME, THEY'VE BEEN KNOWN TO ADD SOME THINGS.
CURRENTLY, WE'RE GETTING 29,563 PER YEAR, THE REQUESTED BUDGET IS GOING TO BE RIGHT AT 325.
LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T RAISE AT ALL, SO THOUGHT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS RAISED FROM ESD, THAT'S JUST DUE TO COVID, THINGS LIKE THAT, SO WE DIDN'T RAISE ANYTHING LAST YEAR.
THIS YEAR, YOUR LARGE INCREASE, AS YOU'LL SEE JUST MOVING THROUGH, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, AGAIN, WE'RE DOING THE FIVE PERCENT.
FOR VEHICLES, WE'RE DOING TWO PERCENT ON EQUIPMENT.
ESD MONEY, SO HOW DO WE SPEND THE ESD MONEY? [NOISE] ALL OF OUR ESD MONEY [NOISE] REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ON EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES, I TRY TO USE THAT MONEY FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE RESPONDING TO THE COUNTY.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY'RE PAYING THIS CONTRACT TO RESPOND TO OUR OUTER AREAS.
WE'VE GOT CERTAIN VEHICLES, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE THAT ONLY THESE VEHICLES WILL GO TO COUNTY, WE USE ALL OF OUR VEHICLES TO GO TO COUNT IT.
BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN VEHICLES THAT ARE, SPECIFICALLY, MORE PRONE TO GO TO COUNTY.
FOR INSTANCE, OUR NEW LADDER TRUCK WE BOUGHT.
THAT'S NOT GOING OUT IN THE COUNTY.
IF WE WOULD TAKE ENGINES, THOSE TYPE OF TRUCKS THAT ARE RURAL FIRE TRUCKS.
SO I TRY TO USE THAT MONEY [NOISE] ALSO, ANY OF THIS MONEY THAT IS LEFT OVER FROM ESD, SO IF WE DON'T SPEND ALL OF THAT ESD MONEY, WE STILL HAVE THAT MONEY, SO THAT MONEY GOES INTO ACCOUNT BALANCE.
SO IF YOU ALL RECALL WHEN WE PURCHASED THE ENGINE 4, I CAME AND ASKED FOR A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO HELP WITH THAT DOWN PAYMENT, THE ASSOCIATION PAID THE REST OF THAT.
THAT'S WHERE THAT MONEY CAME FROM, IT WAS LEFT OVER ESD MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND.
SO THE REASON I SAY THAT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING ANOTHER ENGINE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, SO I'VE GOT ENGINE 1 NOW IT'S FINANCED THROUGH ESD MONEY, SO THAT'S $72,000 A YEAR, IT COMES OUT OF THAT ESD FUND.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS AFFORDING ANOTHER VEHICLE AND CONTINUE THAT LOAN PAYMENTS AND JUST GET A NEW VEHICLE SO, EVENTUALLY, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO ORDER A RESCUE TRUCK TO PLACE THE RESCUE TRUCK, IT'S THE NEXT OLDEST TRUCK.
HOWEVER, WE'VE GOT ENGINE 2, WHICH HAS GIVEN US A TON OF MAINTENANCE COST RIGHT NOW.
OUR RESCUE TRUCKS, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY NO MAINTENANCE COSTS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE COMPUTERS, IT DOESN'T HAVE A PUMP, IT DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE STUFF THAT THESE OTHER ENGINES HAVE, BUT IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO REPLACE THE ENGINE THAT'S GIVING US A LOT OF TROUBLE.
ON THAT ENGINE, I'VE PROBABLY SPENT ABOUT $60,000 ON IT IN THE LAST TWO-AND-HALF-YEARS, MAYBE THREE YEARS.
IT'S A HUGE MAINTENANCE BEAST.
>> IS IT JUST VARIOUS THINGS OR IS IT?
>> MAN, WE REBUILT THE MOTOR [NOISE] JUST RECENTLY, WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE TIE RODS AND BODY MOUNTS.
IN MY OPINION, IT'S THE TYPE OF TRUCK IT IS [LAUGHTER] SO CERTAIN VENDORS, YOU'VE GOT DODGE, CHEVROLET, AND FORD.
SO WHICH ONE DO YOU LIKE? SAME THING WITH FIRE TRUCKS [LAUGHTER]
>> WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND CALL THEM OUT, WHICH MAKE ARE THE ENGINES?
IS IT A PIERCE, CHAYSON, OR IS IT E-ONE? NO, IT'S AN E-ONE, ENGINE 2 IS AN E-ONE.
>> DO WE GET THE NEW BLACK STRIPE ON IT?
>> FOR THE BLACK STRIPE, WE ORDERED THE LADDER TRUCK WITH THE BLACK AND THE DIFFERENT GOLD AND ALL THAT.
IT WAS A TRIAL WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO LIKE IT, WELL, EVERYBODY LOVES THAT TRUCK.
SO PROBABLY WE WOULD START TRENDING TO THAT BLACK STRIPE.
ACTUALLY, AND THAT TRUCK'S GOING IN [INAUDIBLE] CALENDAR NEXT YEAR AS WELL,
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SO I HOPE IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE [INAUDIBLE].>> [INAUDIBLE] THE COMPANY THAT BUILDS YOUR TRUCK, WHAT TRUCK DO THEY BUILD ON TOP OF, KENWORTH, OR [INAUDIBLE], OR DODGE?
>> YEAH, THE KENWORTH [INAUDIBLE] .
>> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.
>> I KNOW A LOT OF MOSTLY YOUR MOTORS ARE COMING FROM DETROIT BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL FRAME, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
ANOTHER THING WITH THE NEW TRUCKS, AND WHAT WE'RE TOSSING AROUND IS MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE PUT IN THE MONEY TO COVER A ONE-YEAR PAYMENT ON THAT TRUCK, NOT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE PUT IN SOME MONEY TO COVER A ONE-YEAR PAYMENT ON THAT TRUCK, AND WE ORDER IT A YEAR EARLY TO COVER ONE-YEAR PAYMENT AND THEN ESD STARTS TO COVER FROM THEN ON.
IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER IN ESD ACCOUNT BALANCE, THAT HELPS TO COVER THAT.
SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS WE TRY TO BUILD A LITTLE PADDING IN, TRY TO SAVE A LITTLE MONEY, AND HELP COVER THOSE DOWN PAYMENT TYPE OF COSTS FROM ACCOUNT BALANCE SIDE FUND BALANCE OR BUDGET.
AGAIN, IF WE HYPOTHETICAL IF WE BOND THROUGH THE TERMS CENTER AND ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THERE AND THAT FIRST PAYMENT THAT TRANSITIONS FOR A DESIGNER TO THE POWER BI AND CARDS YOUR GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OF ESP THREE OR SOME OTHER PARTICLE TO HELP OUT TO IT.
>> THERE'S OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS STILL ANGLICAN, BUT WE HAVE THE LARGEST SERVICE AREA WE HAVE 128 SQUARE MILES.
>> VERY MODEL THAT WE STARTED WITH AND WORKSHOPS TO IT.
>> WELFARE AND HELPS WITH THE NORTH.
THEY START THERE AT THE [INAUDIBLE] ROAD 34.
THE LETTER ON OFTEN HAVE TOTAL NET MOTION UNDER HIS HOPES THAT IS ACTUALLY, ANOTHER AND THEY'RE BOTH TELLING.
SO YOU GOT SOCERN, MANDEL, OUR COLONY, ALVIN, DEPENDENT BACK, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO COVER HOLIDAY LIKE, JUST A FEW 100 TO 400.
>> OKAY. SO MAYBE, ONE DOWN SOME OF THE THINGS I'M ASKING FOR, ONE THING THAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO WITH THE DEPARTMENT, YOU'LL SEE ON THE APPAREL, PAGE 60 AND BASED ON THE APPAREL.
WHAT THE DEPARTMENT'S WANTING TO DO IS START AN HONOR GUARD.
WE DON'T HAVE A DEPARTMENT HONOR GUARD, ANYTHING DID FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
IT ADDED THAT UP, AND HE'S RETIRED, MOVED ON.
SEVERAL MILITARY GUYS IN THE DEPARTMENT NOW.
[INAUDIBLE], A CODE TYPE OF DUTIES WITH LOWER MORTALITY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PITCH SOME OF THAT TO ESD, WE'VE GOT THE BOSTON, [INAUDIBLE] THE UNIFORMS, WE HAD TO GO THERE, THERE'S SOME TRAINING THAT HAS TO BE DONE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
TRY TO GET ESD TO PAY FOR THAT, AND THEN [INAUDIBLE] CAN HANDLE THE HONOR GUARD FOR FUNERALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
HOPEFULLY, I CAN GET THAT DONE.
>> YES. WELL, THERE MAY BE SOME PAY GUY [INAUDIBLE] IT'S INTERESTING.
BUT MOST OF US, THE VOLUNTEERS, WE TALKED ABOUT REPAIR, MAINTENANCE.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE ON THE BUILDINGS, YOU'LL SEE A LARGE INCREASE THERE.
THAT'S JUST HELPING SUPPLEMENT THE CITY FUND FOR THE STATION ONE, REPAIRS AS WELL.
THE TRAVELING TRAINING, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE THERE.
THAT'S THE INCREASE TO SEND THE GUYS FOR THE TRAINING FOR THE HONOR GUARD.
I'LL MOVE INTO PAGE 61 MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSE.
LAST YEAR, WE STARTED THE PAPER CALL REIMBURSEMENT TO THE FIREMEN.
SO I GET $5 PER CALL NOW AT REIMBURSES THEM FOR GAS, FOOD, AND LAUNDRY.
I'M SEEING, THAT'S BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS.
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IF YOU SEE THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS THAT COME IN MONTHLY, THE AVERAGE POWER POTTERS PROTOCOL HAVE WENT UP BY STILLNESS.I SEE AN INCREASE IN THAT PLUS THE INCREASE IN THE CALLS.
SO I'M ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY TO THEY'LL PUT IN THAT $5,000 [INAUDIBLE] ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ESD? ONCE YOU SEE THE TRANSFER UPON BALANCE, THE CAPITAL LEASE PAYMENT THAT THE 72,000 E1 PAYMENT THAT I'LL DISCUSS.
[NOISE] RIGHT, WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE HIP.
>> AUTHORIZED COOPERATION THAT'S ALL ONLINE.
>> BUT I WAS TALKING ABOUT A BUDGET THAT THE ASSOCIATION GETS THE VOLUNTEER FUNDS.
SO WE GET FUNDS FROM THE WATER ROLL.
WE ALSO GET FUNDS FROM A GARDEN HOSES EVERY YEAR THAT WE DO IS USE AROUND $15,000.
THE WATER ROLL, BRINGS IN ABOUT $4,000 A MONTH, AND I'M GOING TO VOLUNTEER OUR 50 PER MONTH.
THEY CAN TAKE A BOX, THEY DID NOT PAY IT IF THEY WANT TO.
THE VOLUNTEERS, WE HAVEN'T RAISED THAT IN, IT WAS THERE AND RICK PERRY DAYS AND WE READ THIS ALL, LET'S SAY 2004, 2005 MAYBE.
SO STARTED TALKING TO THEM A LITTLE BIT.
EMF IS ACTUALLY GOING TO RAISE THEIR VOLUNTEER DONATION.
SO ABOUT WHAT THE EMF IS GOING TO DO, I'LL BE ABLE TO JUMP ONBOARD TRYING TO DO IT AT THE SAME TIME, THOUGH WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT 50 CENTS WE DIDN'T WANT TO BREAK.
SOMETIMES THE VOLUNTEERS REALLY HESITATE TO DO.
IT'S A CUE TO DISCUSSION WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.
THEY JUST DON'T LIKE TO ASK THE CITIZENS FOR MORE HELP.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE PRIDE IN.
SO, THEY AGREED TO DO 50 CENTS AND RAISE IT TO TWO DOLLARS.
SO YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT COMING UP ON AN AGENDA CLEAN OR BY FELLOW FOR [OVERLAPPING]
>> AND WE ALL GET BEHIND THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT AND OUR HOME OR OUR PROOF [NOISE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] PLANES THAT ARE VOLUNTARY [INAUDIBLE]
>> YOU CAN THINK $60 IF YOU ADD THEM ALL TIMES 12 IS ABOUT $60.
YEAH. SO MORE MARK COMPLYING, THAT I WAS SAYING.
>> IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO, DON'T DO IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE WE WERE A LITTLE AFRAID OF WRITING THAT JUST BASED ON FORWARD.
WE'RE DOING THE ELECTRONIC METERS NOW SOME PEOPLE WERE SEEING DIFFERENT BILLS.
YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT SEE A RISE IN THE BILL, AND THEN THE IMAGE IS GOING TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, AND WHAT IS MOST LIKELY BUILDING ON THE LEFT, 20 BUCKS.
>> OKAY. WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE FILL.
>> SO FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU'LL SEE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE, I JUST PUT THE $50,000 THE END.
THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS FOR STATION ONE, AND VN, THAT 25, 26, YOU'LL SEE THAT LARGE 1 MILLION.
THAT'S JUST LIFE IF WE [INAUDIBLE] DO A HUGE UPGRADE, OFFICIAL ONE BASED ON WHAT WE'VE GONE INTO ONE ANOTHER.
THE STATION ONE OVERFLOW, 160 ON THAT ESTIMATE FOR THAT BUILDING, WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING BEHIND STATION ONE, HOWEVER WE TALKED TO [INAUDIBLE] LITTLE BIT, TO KNOW, WITH MATERIAL COST AND ALL OF THAT STUFF GOING CRAZY RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE PULLING BACK ON THE REINS AND NOT IN THAT BIG OF A HURRY TO TRY TO GET THAT DONE.
THEN THAT 160 IS PROBABLY 200 NOW MATERIAL COSTS, I WOULD IMAGINE.
>> BEHIND STATION ONE, 40, 45, 50 BILLION, AND WE'VE GOT 50, BUILD THEM BEHIND STATION ONE AND THREE, MORE BASE ONE BAY FOR STORAGE.
IF YOU REMEMBER WHERE [INAUDIBLE].
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>> [INAUDIBLE] THEY USED TO BE AN OLD ROOM AND THEY'LL MEAN TO YOU GRADUALLY.
>> I'LL DO THAT BY ANIMALS STORING BEEN THERE, DONE THAT CLIMATE CONTROLS THEM OVER.
>> NO, I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> SO FIVE HUNDRED AND SIX THOUSAND.
>> SO MOVING ON DOWN THE NEXT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE PROBABLY ABOUT BACK DOWN THE END AND TO REPLACEMENT, 2023, 2024.
THAT'S JUST TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IF WE DECIDE TO PAY A ONE-YEAR'S NOTE WITH A DOWN WITH THE EQUIPMENT AS WELL.
PAY THE ONE-YEAR NOTE, PUT THE EQUIPMENT ON THE TRUCK, AND THEN IN THE 2024, 2025 VSB TAKES THAT SAME NUMBER.
DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM IN PLACE, THE BRUSH THREE $10,000 FOR BRUSH DRUGS AND OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD BE GOING TO ESD TO TRY TO HELP GET ESD TO HELP US FUND THAT.
>> STILL WE WILL BE ASKING ESD FOR QUITE A BIT OF THAT MONEY.
THEN THE RESCUE TRUCK ALSO 2025, 2026,AND THAT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE BASED ON MY TRUCK REPLACEMENT, HIGH RISK NEUTRAL, IT'S ABOUT $760,000.
>> ALL THE OTHER VEHICLES ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE [INAUDIBLE] TO ADD MORE VEHICLES?
>> ADD MORE VEHICLES? NO. REDUCE VEHICLES? YES. SO THE ENGINE CREW REPLACEMENT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS? NOT ME, ASK [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE] NO. NO, I WOULDN'T ADD ANYMORE VEHICLES.
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT ACTUALLY TELLS US TO ADD THAT WE NEED, [NOISE] THAT WE JUST ORDERED GAVE US TWO FOR ONE.
WE USE IT AS AN ENGINE AT THE BACK AND THEN AS THE BACKUP PLAN.
YEAH WHEN WE GOT THE TOWER, [INAUDIBLE] THE ISO STARTS ON A LADDER TRUCK.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE MINIMUM 75 FOOT OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PIPE TO REACH THE HIGHEST BUILDING IN YOUR TOWN.
WHICH APPARENTLY OURS WAS THE COURT HOUSE.
THAT'S WHERE THE 110 FOOT CAME FROM AND THAT'S THE LAUNCH TOWER.
THE 75 FOOT LADDER GIVES US THE BACK UP FOR THE TOWER.
WE GET OLD AGE AND CREDIT FOR THE WIND AS WELL.
YOUR 50TH ACTUALLY BROUGHT DOWN TO THE BUILDING.
>> OCCUPANTS [NOISE] TALKING TO CALL THAT A LITTLE BIT.
WE DID HAVE A FIRE RATHER THEIR AT THE VERY TOP OF THAT BUILDING WE COULD NOT I GET TO IT.
I WAS TALKING TO KYLE A LITTLE BIT AND HE WAS REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY.
IN THE PITCH REFACTOR ACTUALLY, THEY WANT TO PUT IT IN THEIR BUDGET THIS YEAR TO PUT THIS PAN PIPE, THAT WE CAN HOOK TO AND GET TO THAT BUILDING.
I THINK IT'S A 140 FOOT AND A HALF OR SOMETHING AND IT'S WAY UP THERE.
BY THE TIME YOU STRING HOSES FROM THE TRUCK ALL THE WAY UP AND YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION WHICH [INAUDIBLE] AND ALL THAT.
PROBABLY WE WON'T TALK ABOUT CALLS AND THE NUMBER OF CALLS THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR?.
>>YEAH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE UP ABOUT 22 PERCENT AND CALL THIS LAST MONTH IT WAS ACTUALLY DOWN ON THE MONTH LET'S SEE, THE AVERAGE PERSONNEL PER CALL, THAT RUNS AROUND SEVEN TO EIGHT PER MONTH [INAUDIBLE] A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE WERE AROUND FOUR.
THAT'S JUST BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE BROUGHT IN OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH THE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS.
I LIKE THE PAPER COLOR REALLY HAS HELPED A LOT.
OUR AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME IS JUST OVER SIX MINUTES.
WHICH IS HUGE FOR VOLUNTEER PART OF WARMER IN THE CITY CALLS COUNTY CALLS, PROBABLY 75 PERCENT CITY, 25 PERCENT COUNTY OR MAYBE A LITTLE MORE, DAYTIME, NIGHT-TIME CALLS ARE 50, 50.
WITH OUR PAID CREW, WE COULD HAVE HARD TO PAY, THAT CREW MORE OR [NOISE] BIGGER AS WE STARTED GETTING CALLS DURING THE WEEK.
LOOKING AT THAT DATA, IT'S SOMETHING AROUND THAT.
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>>THAT AND THE VOLUNTEERS ON STANDBY WILL PROBABLY HELP MITIGATE THAT.
>> YEAH IT WOULD DEFINITELY DEFINITELY HELPED TO RESPOND TO I MEAN, YOU'RE HUNGRY IF THEY'RE SITTING AT THE STATION, I RESPOND TO I WAS GONNA GO DOWN.
ARE YOU GOING TO GET SOME DATA NEXT YEAR ON WHAT ARE COSTS WOULD BE THE RUNNER PROGRAM.
>>YEAH, I'VE GOT THAT DATA ALREADY, I PITCHED IT TO THE LAST [INAUDIBLE] MANAGER.
>> I CAN PUT A I CAN PUT A FOUR MAN CREW MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT AND THEN SATURDAY, SUNDAY, 24 HOURS.
FOR THE YEAR FOR ABOUT $260,000.
>> HOW WILL THIS INCREASING OUR POPULATION BY 20 PERCENT AFFECT THE NEED IN THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> WHAT THAT'S GOING TO TELL YOU IS AS WE INCREASE POPULATION, YOU SHOULD INCREASE PAID PERSONNEL.
BY 20 PERCENT, I'D HAVE TO LOOK ALL OF THAT UP.
CURRENTLY AT THE FOREFRONT OF ORDERS WE HAVE NOW, INCREASING TO THE ONE WE'VE GOT A FULL COMPANY.
CURRENTLY THEORETICALLY THAT SHOULD LAST US FOR YEARS TO GO AROUND THE [INAUDIBLE] IS ALSO GOING TO TELL THEM AS WELL.
>>WE'RE PROJECTED TO HAVE 650 HOMES THAT ARE [INAUDIBLE] NOT EVEN IN THE CITY, NOT PAYING FOR THE TAXES OR ANYTHING.
>> ESD IS LOOKING AT THAT SAME SCENARIO.
EVENTUALLY ESD IS GOING TO HAVE TO START, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT PAID PERSONNEL IN COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.
IF THAT AFFECTS AS A CONTRACTOR, I DON'T KNOW THAT ESD WILL PAY SALARIES.
BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY GIVE THEY GIVE US A CHECK AND WE'RE A CONTRACT.
CAN WE BUILD SALARIES INTO THAT CONTRACT?
>>HOWEVER, ONE THING WE REALLY NEED TO WATCH WITH ESD GUYS, NOT A WHOLE OTHER WITH CHRIS IS LOOKING AT BUILDING STATIONS, MINIATURE STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND TALKING ABOUT COMBINING SMALLER FIREWALLS IN THE COUNTY.
THERE'S SOME PART OF WARMER, SO IT'S GOT 4-5 GUYS AND IT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT.
WHAT SCARED ME IS WE'RE PRIME CANDIDATE FOR THAT.
THEY CAN BUILD A STATION BETWEEN US AND WE'LL SHARE, THEY CAN MANAGE STATION AND IT TAKES AWAY SOME OF OUR ESD.
NOW WE LOSE SOME FUNDING IF THEY DO THAT AND IT'S A LOT OF FUNDING.
I WAS TRYING TO GET A DEAL PASSED THROUGH ESD AND IN THE CITY TO WHERE ESD BUILT US A STATION.
SOMEWHERE AROUND AUSTIN TOWN, ON OUR PROPERTY.
WE PUT EQUIPMENT IN OUR STATION.
HOWEVER, IT WAS BACK AND FORTH.
THE ESD WANTED THE PROPERTY, THE CITY WANTED THE BUILDINGS. WHO OWNS WHAT? AND SO THERE'S THERE'S A HUGE THING THERE.
IF WE CAN START THESE DISCUSSIONS BACK UP.
WE REALLY NEEDED WHILE THE ESD IS LOOKING FOR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, ALL OVER THE AREAS.
THEY HAVE NOT 100 PERCENT TOLD ME THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUILD NORTH OF US.
BUT IT WOULD SAVE THEM A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO BUILD NORTH OF US REALLY, [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE].
>> SO I REALLY LOVE THEM. THEY'LL BUILD ON TOP OF O'NEILL.
>>KNOW YOU WANT TO PUT OUT ON, BUT IF I AM RIGHT NOW, MAKE THAT FINANCIAL AID AND READ FELT MILLION GENE ON IT.
>>AND PARIETAL PUT A BUILDING FOR US TO PUT A BUILDING ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T ACCOUNTING.
IT DOESN'T DOES IT BEST USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS TO BUILD A BUILDING OUT THERE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, HOWEVER, SECURES FUNDING.
AND IT'LL BE JUST A GENERAL QUESTION THOUGH, BUT HAMILTON IS GOING FIGHT THE FIRES IN WHEN ROSE GREW.
>>WHEN RHO, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE HOSPITAL, HOW DID THAT GET FUNDED?
>>AND SO WE'VE GOT DESERT FIREFIGHTING.
>>SO WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT THAT'S BASICALLY US GOING OVER THERE, ME GOING OVER THERE AND TELLING THEM, HEY, YOU KNOW,
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WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS MINI MORE HEALTHY IN OUR ET J.WE HAVE TO ISO IS GOING TO TELL HER MY HEALTH, MY PERSONNEL EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.
RIGHT. AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND THAT EQUIPMENT IN ORDER FOR US TO RESPOND FOR OUR CONTRACTS.
>> OKAY, WHAT [INAUDIBLE] WOULD HAVE TO DO IS WHEN BUDGETING TIME COMES AROUND AND THAT WHEN [INAUDIBLE] ARE ON THE GROUND, THEY'RE GOOD AT GETTING THAT ESD ASSESSMENT.
THEY'RE GETTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING, SO SCOTT HAS JUST GOT TO GO TO BAT AND SAY, OKAY, WE ARE PROVIDING SERVICE FOR MORE PROPERTY, WE SHOULD GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING BECAUSE OF THAT.
>> ALVIN IS FIGHTING THAT RIGHT NOW.
ALVIN IS IN THE BOAT WE'RE IN. THEY'RE A CONTRACT.
THEY'RE NOT AN ESD FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEIR POPULATION IS GROWING LIKE CRAZY ALL AROUND SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY FIGHTING THAT RIGHT NOW.
>> SCOTT, WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION YOU NEED FROM A COUNCIL ABOUT FUTURE FIRE STATION WITH THE ESD?
>> REALLY, RIGHT NOW I JUST NEED Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GET ESD AND CONTACT.
WE'LL SPEAK WITH CHRIS, WE'LL JUST START TALKING ABOUT IT AND WE STILL HAVE PROPERTY IN AUSTIN TOWN, HOWEVER, THERE'S A BIG WATER TANK.
WE STILL HAVE THAT PROPERTY AND SO WE CAN START TO TALK AGAIN.
JUST KEEP IT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND THAT THESE TALKS ARE THERE AND ONCE WE GET TO TALKING ABOUT BUILDING BUILDINGS OR WHATEVER FUNDING COMES UP, THAT'S WHAT IS SECURING FUNDING.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF OUR MIND.
WE'RE SECURING RIGHT NOW 300,000 POTENTIALLY FOUR, FIVE AS IT GROWS.
>> WE HAVE TO REMEMBER TOO THAT WE DID THE FIRST RIGHT TO ANNEX UP THE FREEWAY.
OUR ETJ GROWS THAT MUCH FURTHER NORTH.
REMEMBER, WE OWN PART OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON NORTH COMING SOUTHWARDS.
AT SOME POINT, THOSE TWO BOUNDARIES ARE GOING TO MEET.
THAT WILL BE OUR ETJ PRETTY MUCH FROM AUSTIN TOWN ALL THE WAY TO WHERE WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW.
REMEMBER, IF WE GET TO POPULATION 25,000, YOUR ETJ GROWS BY ANOTHER 0.6 OR 0.7 MILES.
FOR SURE THEY'RE GOING TO TOUCH.
OUR ETJ WILL GO ALL THE WAY TO AUSTIN TOWN.
>> ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT TOO, THESE LARGE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE COMING IN.
COMING ON THE MURRAY RANCH, THERE'S ANOTHER LARGE ONE TALKING ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE LARGE ONE THAT'S ACROSS FROM GULF COAST, IT'S GOING [OVERLAPPING].
SO THESE LARGE SUBDIVISIONS IS COMING IN, MAYBE WE BUILD AND THEN NEGOTIATIONS TO HIGHLIGHT CAN YOU DEDICATE A LITTLE BIT OF PROPERTY FOR A FIRE STATION.
>> I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO ISO, IF THEY SAY BUILD TO THE NORTH OR WHATEVER, THEN WE KNOW WE NEED TO GO TARGET THAT AND THE FUTURE DEVELOPERS WE TALK TO YOU SAY WE'D LIKE THREE ACRES.
>> RIGHT. THAT'S REALLY FOR THE CITY, FOR OUR CITY AND THE COUNTY INSURANCE DEPARTMENTS ARE LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS.
THE COUNTY WANTS TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW FAR IS THE FIRE STATION FROM YOUR HOUSE.
WHERE ARE THE FIRE HYDRANTS? WHERE ARE YOUR WATER SOURCES? CHENANGO RANCH, IT WAS CRAZY WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING HOUSES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR INSURANCE RATES WERE BECAUSE THERE IS NO FIRE SERVICE.
WHEN THESE DEVELOPERS ARE BUILDING, ONCE WE START TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THAT, HEY MAN, IT'S A HUGE SELLING POINT.
YOU GET BETTER INSURANCE RATES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAN YOU DO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
MAYBE THEY DEDICATE THE ACRES LAND AND WE PUT A BUILDING THERE.
THESE ARE THE SPECIFICS THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IN OUR HIP POCKET WHEN THESE BIG DEVELOPERS COME IN AND SAY WE WANT TO DO THIS MORNING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.
[OVERLAPPING] THE COUNTY IS COMPLAINING ABOUT HAVING POLICE, THESE BIG, HUGE AREAS THAT ARE SORT OF THE SAME WITH FIRE PROTECTION AND THE SAME WITH OTHER THINGS.
>> WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ANY OF THE LARGE SUBDIVISIONS ON THE NORTH SIDE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF OUR MIND BECAUSE IF WE CAN GET PROPERTY AND WE COULD PUT A SMALL BUILDING THERE, WE ARE MORE SECURE.
THE ESD IS NOT GOING TO COME PUT IN A BUILDING BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY THERE.
SMALL BUILDING, COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A METAL BUILDING.
>> SOMETHING LIKE WE'VE GOT CEMETERY?
>> SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ONE TRUCK IN.
NOW IN OUR IN OUR NEGOTIATIONS IN 2015, WE WERE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE AN EMS/FIRE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
THAT WAS ANOTHER BIG POINT OF CONTENTION IS BECAUSE OUR EMS IS CURRENTLY A CONTRACT EMS.
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SO WE'RE BUILDING A STATION FOR A CONTRACTOR.THAT WAS ANOTHER BIG POINT OF CONTENTION, BECAUSE CHIEF MACY IS IN THE SAME BOAT.
IF ESB COMES AND BUILDS, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT AN AMBULANCE THERE, SHE LOSES ALL OF [INAUDIBLE] AND SHE LOSES PVC, ANOTHER HUGE FUNDING FOR HER.
SO WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT.
>> CAN A VOLUNTEER JOIN FROM OUTSIDE OF ANGLETON?
WE TOOK OVER HOLIDAY LAKES, THAT WAS ONE OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS WAS WE WERE GOING TO EXTEND OUR RATE AND OUR RANGE.
BEFORE IT WAS FIVE MILES FROM STATION 1, SO IT WAS JUST OUT ANGLETON ETJ.
JUST OUR ANGLETON CITY LIMITS.
NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY STATE'S ETJ, SO ANYWHERE THAT WE RESPOND TO, WE CAN BRING THEM AS WELL.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THEY CAN'T JOIN?
IF THEY LIVE UP TO [INAUDIBLE] RANCH, HOLIDAY LAKES, LONG POND, [INAUDIBLE]
>> I AS HAVING HER CHECK WITH MARTHA TOO TO SEE IF LUNCH [OVERLAPPING].
>> MAYBE WE CAN JUST DO WORK AND LUNCH FOR WHEN LUNCH ARRIVES BECAUSE WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND SCHEDULE.
WE'RE A FEW MINUTES BEHIND. [BACKGROUND]
>> WE DID GET A MISTAKE OVER HERE ON THE 558315.
INSTEAD OF 25 IT SHOULD BE 60,000.
>> THAT'S WHERE I BUY MY ROCK AND ADD THE COST ANYTHING TO DO WITH STREET.
>> MR. [INAUDIBLE] WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON?
THIS YEAR THEY ONLY HAD 25 WHENEVER HE WANTS IT HE PICTURED IT AT EXACTLY 60.
THAT WOULDN'T INCREASE THE 35.
>> THE ROAD PAINTING, THE 317 SAME WAY.
I DON' KNOW HOW WE MISSED IT [NOISE].
IT DIDN'T NEED TO GO BACK TO 20.
THAT'S WHERE I DO MY STRAPPING, ALL MY CROSSWALKS WHICH WE FIX AND DO THAT NOW. CHRIS TALKED ABOUT IT.
THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME EXTRA WAY OF PUTTING THEM HERE ON THE SPEEDER ONCE WE GET THAT PADLOCK UP AGAIN THIS YEAR WHEN IT STARTS NEXT WEEK [NOISE].
>> IT STARTED THIS WEEK [OVERLAPPING]
>> I JUST GOT A FINE ON MY LAY DOWN YARD.
I'M GOING TO ASK MEGAN MAYBE TO COME AND USE THE OLD STREET BARN SINCE IT'S SOLID RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING'S A WHIP.
THERE AIN'T NOWHERE TO KEEP THEIR EQUIPMENT.
I MIGHT ASK HER IF WE COULD USE THE OLD STREET BARN.
>> OR YOU COULD USE THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> OLD STREET BARN. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S NOT ANYWHERE NEAR SOON.
>> NO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT CLOSE TO GETTING A LAY DOWN AS WELL.
>> EVERYTHING'S SECURE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S ONLY GONE PROBABLY SMALL BOX ON IT A LITTLE EXTRA WEIGHT OR IT ISN'T GOING TO BE MUCH WEIGHT ON IT.
I THOUGHT I'D PUT THEM OVER THERE ON THE ANGLE BY THE WATER PLANT, BUT IT'S TOO MUDDY IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY MUCH SENSE.
>> I DON'T THINK I COULD FIGURE THE OLD STREET BARN AIRPLANES OVER HERE AND THEN WE GOT NOW BUT WE ALREADY CROWDED OVER THERE ON THE LEFT.
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>> THERE REALLY IS NOTHING CLOSE BY.
>> NO THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE CITY OWNS AROUND THAT AREA.
>> WE DON'T WANT TO MESS. [LAUGHTER]
>> SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STREETS I SET OUT THE OVERLAY PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY? THEN I SENT OUT A PROPOSAL AND SO THE PROPOSAL WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN AUGUST.
YOU'VE MENTIONED A ROAD AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME ROADS IF THERE'S OTHER ADS, BUT WE'RE LIMITED TO TWO MILES.
IF WE GO OVER THEN WE'VE GOT TO CUT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT DIDER STREET TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE OVERLAY THAT WITHOUT USING IT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OR DECONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW COUNTY COURTHOUSE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE SAID [OVERLAPPING] THAT A DAY OR TWO AGO, BUT I DID ADD IT TO THE CROSS THAT'S ON THE STREET.
>> THOSE OVERLAYS IF YOU WANT [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GET IN DETAIL, BUT I JUST WANT TO MENTION IT SO THAT AGAIN WE'LL TALK ABOUT STREETS AND STREET IMPROVEMENT.
>> WHEN WE GOT APPROACHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE, IT DIDN'T INCLUDE GROWTH. WE GOT TAKEN OFF.
>> IT SHOULD BE ON THE PROPOSED.
>> THE CITIZEN'S, IT WASN'T ON THERE.
>> WELL, IF IT'S NOT ON THE CURRENT, IT'S ON THE PROPOSED.
>> THAT'S ONE MORE REVIEW IN AUGUST AND YOU ALL WILL APPROVE, AND THEN WE'LL GET THE COUNTY.
>> WHERE WE ADDED THAT MAN WITH THE PENCIL.
[INAUDIBLE] THIS SHOULDN'T BE AND GROW WITH THEM.
BUT I'LL BRING THAT TO YOU IN AUGUST, YOU ALL CAN CUT WHAT STREETS.
THE COUNTY IS HOLDING US TO THE TWO MILE.
I HAD 2.2 AND THEY DENIED IT SO I HAD TO DROP DOWN TO ABOUT 1.8, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
>> THAT LIST IS WHAT [INAUDIBLE] SMITH PLACE CONFERENCE EAST, NORTH ROCK ISLAND, EAST ORANGE ALLEY BEHIND.
>> DOUG IN THE BOOK UNDER THE STREET TAB.
IF THE PROPOSING THEN IT GROW WAS THE FIRST THING ON IT.
IT'S THE SECOND PAGE ON THE STREETS WITH THE TURN AND THEN THE POLES IS RIGHT THERE.
THE CURRENT IS ACTUALLY LAST YEARS.
>> IT TOOK THEM FOREVER TO APPROVE.
THE PROPOSED THAT WE'LL DEAL WITH IN AUGUST WILL BE THIS YEARS.
>> I'M GOING TO LOOK AT PROBABLY WESTERN AVENUE TO LOOK AT THAT.
SEE WHAT WE CAN DO OVER THERE.
MAKE THAT STREET A LITTLE WIDER.
>> THE ONES THAT'S ON THERE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE HECTOR'S ROAD FROM BG PECK PARK.
>> YEAH, STARTING FROM THE SOCCER FIELD.
>> OUT THERE. THE SOCCER FIELDS.
>> THE ONE WITHIN THE PROPERTY?
>> NO [OVERLAPPING] IT'S THE ONE THAT GOES.
>> YEAH. YOU'VE GOT THE ROAD COMING IN, IT'S THE PARALLEL ROAD THAT GOES BACK TO OAK.
>> YEAH, WE ALL FOLLOW THAT ROAD. THAT ROAD WAS COUNTY DONATED.
[INAUDIBLE] MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD HERE, IF WE HAD ANY RAMPS DEVELOPED.
MAYBE THEY CAN COME OUT THROUGH THERE WITH A GOOD CONCRETE ROAD OR SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT WHAT IT IS WE HAD A ROLLOVER TO THIS YEAR AND THERE WAS SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT WE WROTE OVER TO OUR OWN OVERLAY SO WE'RE GOING TOO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT EXTRA MONEY.
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT ON THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET.
IN THE PAST, WE HAVE MONEY FOR OVERLAYS AND THE SIDEWALK AND THE [NOISE] INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND STREET FUND BUT NOW THERE'S NO MONEY LEFT THERE AND THAT RESTRICTS.
IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN BUDGETED, IN OTHER WORKS, THIS YEAR.
ALL THOSE COSTS THAT ARE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS.
>> HOWEVER, THE REVENUES SHOULD BE OFFSET BECAUSE WE KNEW THE STREET FUND WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE STREET SALES TAX OF THE PORTION NOW FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT WAS MY BIG CONCERN ALL ALONG ON MAKING THAT CHANGE WAS THAT SUDDENLY THE MONEY THAT WE HAD EARMARKED FOR STREETS, WAS NOW GOING TO BE GONE [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE EATEN UP SOMEWHERE ELSE [NOISE].
WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING OUR ROADS.
WHO KNOW THAT MONEY GOT MOVED OVER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS ORIGINALLY WANTED.
WE PROMISED THAT WE WOULD STILL GET THEIR STREETS FIXED.
>> IS THAT A PRELUDE TO THE VOTES YOU MEAN?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE ROAD PAINTING.
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YOU'RE GOING UP TO 20,000.BUT WE USED TO GET LISTS OF THE ROAD PAINTINGS AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
BUT WE DON'T GET THAT ANYMORE.
IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHAT THIS IS GOING TO COVER.
>> I THINK THIS YEAR THEY'LL BE DOWNING.
LAST YEAR WE'VE DONE A CANNON AND THEY INTERSECT IN THAT [INAUDIBLE] ALL THAT, OUT THERE.
I THINK THIS YEAR IT'LL BE DOWNING AND [INAUDIBLE] AND A FEW CROSSWALKS.
WE HAD ALL THE RAILROADS DONE OUT OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WITH THAT TOO.
THIS YEAR IT'LL BE A DOWNING [INAUDIBLE] AND HOSPITAL
>> THERE'S THE ONE COMPLAINT I GET FROM MOST RESIDENTS LATELY HAS BEEN SIGNAGE.
PART OF OUR SIGNS ARE JUST EITHER NOT THERE, FALLING OFF, FADED OUT.
SOME OF THEM ARE TEXTILE RELATED.
BUT THERE'S QUITE A FEW THERE ARE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT THE OTHER ONE IS THE STRIPING ON THE STREET.
THAT THEY CAN'T SEE THE STREET OR THEY DON'T KNOW AND CAN WE GET STOPS WORKING DOWN, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THOSE ARE THE SMALL INTANGIBLES THAT REALLY HELP TO MAKE THE CITY LOOK BETTER VEGETATION -WISE.
I REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD.
>> WE'VE UPDATED ALL OF OUR CROSS-WALK AND SCHOOL ZONE SIGNS.
>> IT'S ACTUALLY FIRST AND FOREMOST.
>> ON THE TEXT AND SIGNS, AS YOU MENTIONED WE STARTED THIS ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
NOW THEY'VE FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THEY'VE GOT THE SIGNS AND THE HARDWARE NOW THEY'RE JUST FIGURING OUT THEIR PLAN.
WE'LL PRINT TEXT STOCK TO ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEETING FOR AN UPDATE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
>> CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT MEETING.
>> THEN WE ARE SWITCHING ALL OF OUR SCHOOL LIGHTS TO FLUORESCENT MAIDEN LIGHTS LIGHTS TO SOLAR.
JUST LIKE CEMETERY ROAD, WE'VE GOT TO PUT ONE MORE UP OVER THERE BUT I DO HAVE TWO MORE SITTING AT THE BARN.
WE'VE GOT TO SET IT UP BEFORE THE SCHOOL OPENS. THEY DO LOOK PRETTY GOOD.
>> THEY'RE A LOT OF MONEY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. I ONLY BUY TWO A YEAR BECAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT SPENDING $500.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU GOT BILLS TO PAY AND ALL THAT, BUT THEN WE WANT TO UPGRADE THEM.
>> FRANKLY, OUR RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC, PEOPLE WHO WANT STRIPES ON THE STREET, IT HAS TO BE [INAUDIBLE] CERTAINLY WEREN'T GETTING STERILIZED STRIPES DOWN [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M STARTING TO PUT STRIPES ON A 20-FOOT STREET [OVERLAPPING].
SEND THEM IN THE MAILBOX FOR SOMEBODY MOST OF THEM ARE STRIPES IN HIS OWN CONCRETE STREETS.
[INAUDIBLE] CROSS-WALKS AND STUFF.
SOMETIMES A COUNTY AFTER THEY DID THE OVERLAY THEY'LL COME IN DO SOME STRIPPING ON THEM STREETS.
>> DOES COUNTY PRECINCT HAVE TO BE THE EXCLUSIVE PERSON THAT WE USE TO DO OUR OVERLAYS?
>> YES. PRECINCT 1 COMES UP AND DO THE STOCK.
>> THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY ON THE WEBSITE.
>> THEY USUALLY STAY WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES.
COUNTY IN THE HANDS OF THE COUNTY.
JUST LIKE OUR OVERLAYS, THEY GET THEM DONE AND THE MILEAGE.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO MAYBE GET SOME BIDS ON BY THE BOOK OR BY THE ROAD TO SEE HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO START OUR OVERLAY AND MORE AND TO GET A NICER STREET.
RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY'S DOING A FINE JOB.
I'M JUST SAYING. THE COUNTY NEEDS TO LOOK INTO THAT.
>> YOU CAN ALWAYS TAKE ON RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR OWN ROADS.
>> WELL, WE CAN GET A MILLING MACHINE OR LAY DOWN MACHINE AND MILLING MACHINE AND DO THAT STUFF OURSELVES.
>> WHAT HAPPENED, I KNOW THERE'S THAT POST?
>> IT'S THE SAME THING WITH [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF STREET.
THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
>> I MEAN, EVENTUALLY, IT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE LIKE [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE]
>> WHERE WE COME IN AND LIKE WEST RANKLED BEAM, WE MILL ALMOST AN INCH AND A HALF OR TWO INCHES OFF OF THAT.
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WE ALWAYS MILL WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LAY.NOW WE DO KNOW, USED TO THEY JUST LAYOVER.
BUT THE PROBLEM WE RAN INTO WITH WITH WEST RANKLED BEAM WHICH WE MILLED IF THERE WAS NO BODY.
BACK IN THE DAY, THEY JUST THREW IT, THERE WAS NO BASE.
SO WHEN THEY START TO LAY DOWN THEIR MACHINE, THEY START TO FAKE IT.
THE SAME THING WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THEM, LIKE SPARK AND THEN PRETTY SOON WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE 8-INCH MILL, GET IT ALL OUT DNN START MAKING LIKE IN THE ROW. [NOISE]
>> THE OTHER PART WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WESTERN BECAUSE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
YOU'VE GOT TO ENLARGE THE STREET TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE SO YOU COULD GET THE TRASH CANS OFF OF MAIN STREET.
THE SHOULDERS ARE SOFT BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUPPORT THERE.
WHAT JEFF AND I, JEFF'S WORKING ON IS, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT PILOT STREET IS, PUTTING A CURB RIBBON ON THE EDGE OF THE STREET.
BECAUSE WHAT THAT'LL DO IS KEEP, AS LONG AS YOU GOT A GOOD BASE AND YOU GOT A GOOD ROAD, IT'S GOING TO KEEP BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE PARK ON THE SIDE.
IT STARTS TO DETERIORATE ON THE SIDE.
[OVERLAPPING]. RIGHT. SO IF WE PUT A CONCRETE RIBBON. WHAT'S THAT?
>> WE NEED MORE LIKE [OVERLAPPING] CONCRETE AND THEN THINNER IS YOUR ASPHALT.
>> YEAH. IN FACT CARBON GUTTERS, IT'S A RIBBON TO KEEP THE ROAD.
>> IT'S MORE LIKE A LAID DOWN.
>> IS THAT PART LIKE SILVER AND CONCRETE.
>> I'LL TELL YOU NOT THAT MUCH.
>> OH, I MEAN JUST THE COST OF PUTTING IT IN.
TO NOT LAY DOWN REBARS AND DO ALL THAT.
>> HDR AND JOHN PETERSON TOLD ME IN THE STREET COMMITTEE IS ONE OF OUR ORIGINAL PLANS WITH RICHMOND, WAS GOING TO BE CONCRETE RIBBON ASPHALT IN THE MIDDLE BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT COST.
JOHN PETERSON SAID THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAVE THAT MUCH.
>> HE WAS SAYING, THE COST OF PUTTING IT IN THOUGH, WAS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT.
>> BUT ALSO THAT A CITY OF HIGHER TRAFFIC AREA THAN A NORMAL RESIDENTIAL STREET LIKE COPPER.
>> IT'S ON [INAUDIBLE] STREET?
>> I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS WE STILL HAVE TO FINISH OUT.
THEN I THINK THERE'S SOME MONEY IN THERE, RIGHT?
>> I WILL SEE YOU BASED ON WHAT THE BIDS COME IN.
>> WE HAD ABOUT $7 MILLION BUT ACTUALLY 3.7 MILLION IS THE DOWN EAST STREET PROJECT THAT JOHN QUOTED.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN DEDICATED NEAR THE STREETS YET, THE REST OF IT.
>> WE HAD A WHOLE LIST. [OVERLAPPING]
>> AS LONG AS WE CAN USE IT FOR THE STREETS THAT WE WANTED TO USE IT.
>> I GUESS ALL I'M SAYING IS ANYTIME WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO CARBON GUTTER AND CONCRETE AS OPPOSED TO JUST ALWAYS SEEKING OVERLINE BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN I'M NOT SAYING BIG PROJECTS THAT YOU JUST KEEP BUYING OFF A LITTLE AT A TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OR SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN SESSION THIS OLDER PART OF TOWN.
I'D HATE TO SEE IT NEGLECTED AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW OUT IN WHICH WE'LL GET CURB AND GUTTER.
>> BUT A LOT OF [INAUDIBLE] STATEMENT DIRECT CENTER STYLE.
THAT'S WELL WITH CURB AND GUTTER STREET AND IT'S LASTED.
>> WHAT YOU FIND IS IN THE SOIL CONDITIONS WE HAVE AROUND US.
YOU DON'T USE CONCRETE STREET.
[BACKGROUND] IN A HIGHLY TRAFFIC PLACE, YOU DON'T BUILD AN ASPHALT STREET PROPERLY WITH THE PROPER BASE UNDERNEATH [INAUDIBLE] RIGHTLY SO THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WESTERN AVENUE BEING TORN APART.
WHEN WESTERN AVENUE SUBDIVISION WENT IN, [INAUDIBLE] BUILT A LITTLE SKINNY STREET.
TIME HAS CAUGHT UP WITH US AND HERE WE ARE.
YOU CAN BUILD ON ASPHALT STREET WHICH WILL LAST ABOUT AS LONG AS CONCRETE STREET, BUT IT'S GOING TO COST YOU A BIT.
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DEPENDS ON THE MARKET AT THE TIME.TYPICALLY WE FOUND TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD A CONCRETE STREET DOWN ROAD FROM 35 TO WEMBLEY.
THAT STREET WAS CONCRETE STREET WAS CONSTRUCTED IN ABOUT '75 OR '73.
THEN THERE WAS A NEXT SECTION, WENT UP TO A HOSPITAL.
ONCE ITS THERE, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THERE.
>> WE HAD ELI REPEATING HERSELF A LITTLE BIT.
I'VE SEEN [INAUDIBLE] GIVEN THAT WHOLE STREET, THAT WHOLE AREA. THANKS PAUL.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ONES THAT WERE STARTED; RICH CREST AND [INAUDIBLE] AND THOSE GUYS THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE.
WE TALK ABOUT A LITTLE STARTER HOMES.
YOU'RE GOING TO REINVIGORATE THAT AREA.
THEY'RE ALREADY HOMES BEING RENOVATED AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND LOOK REALLY NICE LIKE SMART HOMES.
>> IT'S STARTING, BUT IF THE CITY DOES THAT IT'S JUST GOING TO HELP IT THAT MUCH MORE.
>> SIDEWALKS. WE PUT A 100,000 IN THERE.
>> YES. WE WANT TO GET A FORKLIFT, 40 YARD AND THIS ONE WILL BE 40 YARD.
IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DRIVE SEE MORE OF THE PETTY BONE OR LIFT SO WE COULD TAKE TO THE REC CENTER, UNLOAD WATER. ALL THAT.
WE GOT A GOOSE-NECK TRAILER NOW, SO WE CAN HAUL OUR OWN WATER AND MAYBE [INAUDIBLE] REACH UP IN TRACTOR THE TRAILER AND [OVERLAPPING] IT'S REALLY HANDY TO IT.
>> ALL THIS EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO WHAT WE'VE GOT OUR OWN KIT.
>> RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT WHAT THEY CALL A LITTLE WAREHOUSE ONE, AND WE CAN HARDLY GET IT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.
>> THERE'S THE MONEY WE'VE MOVED OVER FROM THERE.
>> HE TOOK IT OUT THOUGH, RIGHT?
>> HE TOOK IT OUT OF THE STREET SIDE AND PUT IT IN HERE.
>> IN GENERAL, DIDN'T YOU TAKE THAT OUT?
>> NO, IN GENERAL IT WASN'T THERE THIS YEAR, IT WAS IN STREETS THIS YEAR.
>> THE FIRST COUPLE PAGES, YOU TOOK IT OUT.
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT, RIGHT? EXACTLY.
>> SOME OF THESE, YOU TOOK OUT, RIGHT.
THERE'S $916,000 A PROJECT THAT WE HAD TO TAKE OUT TO BALANCE IT.
>> HEY, YOU'LL ALL WANT TO HEAR THIS.
>> THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAD TO TAKE OUT $916,000 WORTH OF PROJECTS FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
TWO OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE THE SIDEWALKS AND THE LIGHTS, SO THAT $200,000 IS COMING OUT.
>> LETS SAY THE LIST IS ON GENERAL FUND PAGE 3.
IN TOTAL WORTH WE TOOK OUT A 100,000 ON THE LIGHTS AND A 100,000 ON THE SIDEWALK.
THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS WHICH WE HAD TO TAKE OUT TO MAKE IT COUNT.
>> ALTHOUGH YOU SEE IT IN THE BUDGET.
>> EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THIS LIST RIGHT HERE, THIS $916,000 LIST.
WE HAD TO TAKE OUT TO MAKE IT BALANCE OR ELSE IT WOULD BE NEGATIVE.
>> MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DID EVERYTHING, 558613 AND 558318?
IF WE GO OUT AND DIG UP, TURN OUR WAY UP OR SOMETHING AND FIX THE WATER LINES, THAT'S WHAT WE USE, THAT WHAT THAT MONEY WAS FOR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, THE 318, IS JUST FOR REPAIRS FOR DRIVEWAYS AND SIDEWALKS THAT AND THE WATER PARK.
>> THE 318 IS REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE SIDEWALKS AND THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN NEW SIDEWALKS, THE 100,000 THAT WE TOOK OUT.
>> OR REPAIRS OF EXISTENT SIDEWALKS.
>> WE'RE EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING.
>> YOU GO DOWN NOR DOUBTING, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEY'VE MANAGED QUITE RIGHT THAN LEFT DOWN THE RAMP AROUND THE POLE. YOU KNOW, A 100.
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>> THEN, IF THE PANE HAS A SOLAR LIGHT WE'LL KEEP ON WITH THE PROJECT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE GETTING GOOD REVIEWS ON WHAT WE'VE DONE [NOISE] ESPECIALLY WITH [INAUDIBLE] RICHMOND IS [INAUDIBLE] UP, PROBABLY NEXT WEEK.
WE HAVE ALL THE BASES ALREADY POURED FOR SOUTH SIDE SO ALL WE GOT TO DO IS SEND THEM UP OVER THERE.
ADDIE'S BEEN RUNNING THAT PROJECT, SHE'S DOING A GOOD JOB OVER THERE BUT WE CAN BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT LIGHTS TOO.
>> OVER ON WEST FIVE OAKS IN THE 800 BLOCK, THE SOLAR LIGHT THAT'S OUT THERE ON A TRAILER, THAT'S THE SAME SOLAR LIGHT THAT WINDROSE GREEN IS PUTTING IN AS PART OF THEIR SOLAR LIGHT DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'VE GOT ONE FOR US TO TEST.
[OVERLAPPING] WE'VE GOT TO MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT BUT IT'S PRETTY GOOD IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO OVER AND SEE IT.
>> THE ONE ON DALLAS [INAUDIBLE] OR NOT?
>> I'VE GOT ONE OVER THERE, I'VE GOT [INAUDIBLE]
>> DO THAT AT NIGHT OR DURING THE DAY? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM WE HAD.
>> YOU WON'T SEE IT LIT DURING THE DAY TIME.
>> CECIL GOT ME [INAUDIBLE] DRAINAGE, [NOISE] WE STARTED BACK CUTTING DITCHES, YOU CAN TELL UP ON [OVERLAPPING] HENDERSON ROAD, WE'RE GOING TO START OVER THERE.
WE AIN'T FINISHED, THE RAIN GOT US.
IT AIN'T RAINED IN SO LONG AND THEN NOW WE CAN'T EVEN GET OUT THERE TO DO.
[OVERLAPPING] WE ARE RE-CUTTING DITCHES.
I KNOW WE DID A BIG PROJECT ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO OR 10 YEARS AGO, WHEN ROBERT [INAUDIBLE] WAS HERE WE WENT THROUGH AND CUT THE WHOLE CITY [OVERLAPPING] SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO START OVER AND DO AGAIN.
>> I HAD PEOPLE OVER ON THE BRONCO ASK ME ABOUT THEIR DITCHES AND THEIR LITTLE CULVERT, THE LITTLE [NOISE] CLEAN OUT, JUST LET HIM KNOW. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF IT'S WEST BRONCO BEING THAT'S THE NEXT ONE WE'RE GOING TO HEAD TO, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WORK OVER THERE WE NEED TO DO.
>> JEFF MAYBE YOU CAN HELP SHARE THE PLAN FOR WORKING AROUND THE CITY SO THAT WE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'VE GOT A LIST OF [OVERLAPPING] BUT WE HAD THAT, WE USUALLY GIVE TO [OVERLAPPING] THE COUNCIL EVERY MONTH IT SHOWS THEIR FOOTAGE, HOW MUCH WE DUG AND ALL THAT, AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO NEXT, AND WE GAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMELINE TO IT TOO.
WE'LL START THAT AGAIN, SINCE WE [OVERLAPPING]
>> MAKE SURE MARTHA GETS IT SO SHE CAN HELP US SOCIALIZE THAT.
>> [NOISE] [OVERLAPPING] JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A CULVERT ALONG THE STREET, THEY DON'T MAKE YOUR DITCHES GO AND DRAIN.
BECAUSE THIS GUY'S CULVERT IS HERE, THIS GUY'S CULVERT'S HERE, AND THIS GUY'S CULVERT'S HERE, AND THIS GUY'S CULVERT IS HERE, YOU CAN'T GET THE WATER DOWN THE STREET, AND IMPORTANTLY BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PUDDLE, OR THIS SIDE'S GOING TO DRY OUT AND [NOISE] MIKE IS GOING TO FLOOD.
>> HE'S RAISING CRAWFISH IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE, IT'S ALL RIGHT. [LAUGHTER]
>> [INAUDIBLE] GOT TRAPS OUT ON IT.
>> WE'VE RUN INTO THAT A LOT JUST LIKE HENDERSON ROAD AND THE VICTORIA HOUSE WITH THE CIRCLE DRIVEWAY.
WELL, THAT HOUSE WAS PUT IN A LONG TIME AGO, AND THEY JUST THREW THE CULVERTS IN.
SO HERE WE ARE, GOT TO CUT OR GRADE TO GET IT RIGHT, AND IT'S PRETTY FLAT.
BUT, LAST COUPLE OF RAINS, IT AIN'T HOLDING WATER.
>> YEAH I SAW HENDERSON WAS GOOD.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER CUT THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
>> BECAUSE AS SOON AS I SAW IT I WENT [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE CUTTING ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD NOW?
>> YEAH AND WE WAS TAKING OUT THIS MUCH SO THAT'S HOW MUCH THAT WILL GO.
>> I TEXTED HIM AND SAID WE'RE ON HENDERSON [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE GAVE THIS DUMB TO THAT BUILDER, WE JUST DUMPED IT RIGHT IN HIS YARD THEN I TAKE IT TO MY YARD AT THE END WHERE IT DRAINS.
>> PEOPLE ASK FOR IT AND WE'LL GET THEM TO SIGN A WAIVER.
>> JUST DUMP IT IN MIKEY'S YARD.
>> THEY'RE GETTING A DRIVEWAY, IT'S EASY TO BACK IN AND DUMP IT.
>> I KNOW I THINK WHEN I LIVED IN [INAUDIBLE] MY DAD WOULD BE LIKE WHERE THEY CUT DITCHES OVER THERE, GO GET SOME OF THAT DIRT.
[LAUGHTER] I'D GO HEY, CAN WE HAVE SOME OF THAT? THEY'RE LIKE YEAH. [LAUGHTER]
>> I THINK BRONCO BEND'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IT'S HARD TO GET THE WATER OUT OF THEM.
THE COUNTY GOES UNDER HENDERSON ROAD THEN BACK OUT.
WE WENT OVER LAST WEEK AND CLEANED SOME CULVERTS UP AND DID CULVERTS OVER THERE BY MR. CLARK AND ALL OF THAT OVER THERE.
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I RECKON DRAIN STUDIES AND [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT, I THINK THAT STUDY'S DONE, WE'LL JUST SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARDS.>> WE'LL PROBABLY STICK THE NEXT ROUND.
[OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE SIX MINUTES FOR THE GLO MITIGATION GRANT [NOISE] IF WE CAN GET SELECTED, AND THERE WAS LIKE 715 MILLION LEFT AND THEY GAVE IT ALL TO HARRIS COUNTY.
WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT ROUND OF THE GLO OFFERING SO [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT WILL BE THE RIDGECREST SURVEY THEY DONE AND THE CHENANGO DRAINAGE, THAT'LL LEAVE TWO THAT WE ALREADY HAVE DONE, WE'RE JUST WAITING.
>> WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO RIDGECREST?
>> WELL, HE'S GOING TO, NOT RIDGECREST BUT POTENTIALLY WILL BE CHEVY CHASE RIGHT THERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> HERE LATELY IT AIN'T BEEN THAT BAD, IT'S BEEN FLOWING PRETTY GOOD OVER THERE.
I AIN'T SEEN NO STANDING WATER.
JASON, YOU REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY WE TOOK BOATS IN THERE AND GOT PEOPLE OUT BUT IT DON'T DO THAT NO MORE.
>> WELL IT MUST HAVE BEEN THE IMPROVEMENT, WHAT DID YOU ALL DO? [NOISE].
>> THEY PUT IN SOME BIG CULVERTS GOING DOWN WILDCAT AND IT DRAINS IN THERE.
IT USED TO RUN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CLOSE TO ALEXANDER COURT BUT NOW THEY CAME IN, I DON'T KNOW, ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO AND PUT SOME BIG CULVERTS DOWN THROUGH WILDCAT THERE.
THEN THEY COME OUT BY THE OLD WALMART OVER THERE AND NOW AS IT OVERFLOW COME OVER THE STREET AND GO DOWN TO THE H-E-B.
EVERY LOW DRAIN IS WHERE BACK THEN, WAY BACK THERE.
WE HAD TO GO IN AND GET THE PEOPLE OUT.
>> I THINK $200,000 WITH CARES MONEY COULD FUND.
>>CARES IS KIND OF THIN [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]
>> [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT. YES.
>> WE GET TWO POINT SOMETHING THIS YEAR.
>> SO YEAH, WE DO WANT TO KEEP THESE PROJECTS FUNDED.
>> [INAUDIBLE] SHOULD DO THAT [NOISE] AMERICAN RECOVERY [OVERLAPPING].
SO AGAIN, SWITCHING DAY RP AGAIN REAL QUICK.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE [INAUDIBLE] WATER FROM STORAGE TANK.
BUT I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, BUT BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS GONE UP, SO WE GET 2.4 MILLION INSTEAD OF 2.1.
THE TWO PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE ARE AT 2.1 AND NOW YOU HAVE 300 THOUSAND LEFT.
AND HERE YOU GO, SOME GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
AS WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO GETTING THE MONEY AND FIGURING OUT ALL THE HOOPS.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND SAY, HERE'S THE RECOMMENDED SPEND POINT.
>> ANYTHING ELSE ON THE STREET PHONE?
>> WE GO BACK IN SIX MONTHS AND ASK FOR SOME FUN BELLS? [LAUGHTER]
>> NOW WE HAVE $2.4 MILLION [INAUDIBLE]
>> I'M SURE YOU WILL. [LAUGHTER]
>> ON THE [INAUDIBLE] UTILITY WATER FUND?
>> YEAH. WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT THE LIST THAT WE TOOK OUT BECAUSE YOU ALL FOOT $625,000 HERE BEFORE WE START GOING THROUGH THAT'S NOT REALLY IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S ON PAGE 2 OF THE UTILITY FUND.
THIS IS THE $625,000 THAT WE TOOK OUT.
YOU SEE IT THROUGH EXPORTER PAGE [INAUDIBLE] REPLACEMENTS, WATER AND SEWER LINE, PROJECTS, EXCAVATOR.
SO TELL ME, THE 500 EQUIPMENT, IT'S MAINTENANCE AND SO WE'VE GOT IN GIS, WE KNOW THE FLOW, THAT WE'VE PAST COUPLE OF STEPS, AND $25,000 GET YOU TOWARDS THE QUARTER.
>> YEAH, SO I GUESS IT'S A QUARTER OF WHAT WE HAVE AND SO TO GET THROUGH ALL OF OUR URGENTS, AT THIS RATE, IT'LL BE EVERY FOUR YEARS.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TOUCH THEM EVERY YEAR, BUT SO FAR HARD TO INSTALL THE JURY THAT FAST, SPECIFIC, AND REHABBED.
MAKE SURE THEY FUNCTION PROPERLY, CHANGE IT OUT THE SEALS IF THEY HAVE BAD SEALS OR THE NUTS OR WHATEVER.
>> RIGHT, WE REDRAW THE INFLOW RATE.
>> YES. PROBABLY TEST ON ALL THAT AND THIS WILL BE SET UP TO GO ON OUR GIS.
SO TG HUGH COMES IN SAYS, "HEY, I NEED TO SEE YOUR RECORD ON YOUR FIRE HAZARDS." WE CAN PULL THIS UP AND SHOW IT TO HIM.
>> WE GOT A DATABASE AT THE END AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW MANY FIRE HAZARDS PER YEAR WE NEED FOR REPLACEMENTS.
[03:45:02]
SO THIS IS REALLY JUST THE DIAGNOSIS AND FUNCTIONALITY.>> SO WE BREAK IT DOWN OR WHAT? FIVE YEARS OR THREE, FOUR YEARS?
>> I GUESS FOUR YEARS. [INAUDIBLE] FOR ABOUT $100,000.
SINCE ONE OF THE THINGS THEY LOOK AT IN YOUR ISO READING IS YOUR WATER SUPPLY, THESE IS PART OF THE WATER SUPPLY DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM OR ARCHITECTURE.
>> WILL GO IN AND DO BOROHYDRIDE AND REPLACE THE STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE SEALED OR WHATEVER.
FIRE [INAUDIBLE] ON THE LAST YEAR ANOTHER LIFETIME.
>> THIS GOES BACK TO MY COMMENT EARLIER THAT, 500,000 YOU WANTED TO PUT IN FOR THE SIGNAGE AND EVERYTHING, WE GET PULL FROM FUND DOWN AND USE IT FOR THESE PROJECTS, RE-STATION REHAB, WATER TREATMENT MEMBRANE, EXCAVATOR, TO ME THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID I WANTED TO TAKE THE WHOLE 5,000 NOW AND USE IT FOR STUFF LIKE THIS.
THE WATERLINE PROJECTS, SEWER LINE PROJECTS.
>> THE WATER TREATMENT MEMBRANE, THAT'S FOR THE FREEDOM PARK, HAS ARSENIC, AND THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH, THE MEMBRANE WILL REDUCE THE ARSENIC LEVELS OR WHATEVER.
I GUESS THAT CONFLICT TO A SIP THING, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU BUDGET 20,000 EVERY YEAR AND STICK IN AN ACCOUNT SO THAT IN FOUR TO FIVE YEARS YOU HAVE THAT 150,000 [INAUDIBLE].
THAT ONE COULD SLIP OUT OF THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, IT SHOULD BE EVERY THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING.
>> BUT I THOUGHT CHRIS, IF IT'S PART OF THE FREEDOM PARK WATER WELL, WE BONDED THAT TO GET THAT PART RUNNING, IS THAT NO MONEY IN THE BOND FIVE LEFT TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE WHOLE PART OF THAT, WAS [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH THE BOND.
>> BUT AGAIN, NOW THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE FIGURING OUT HOW IT CAN NOT BE ABLE TO OPERATE, WE COME UP WITH THIS COST OF A 150,000.
>> THEN THAT COULD BE MINUS PART OF IT.
>> INCLUDING THE MONEY IN THAT BOND FOR THE WELL.
MY POINT IS, THIS IS NOW A MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR THE FUTURE.
THIS IS NOT A GET IT UP AND RUNNING COSTS, BECAUSE THE GET IT UP AND RUNNING COSTS WILL INCLUDE THE MEMBRANE.
IT'S JUST THREE YEARS FROM NOW I ROLL IT AGAIN, IT'S ALL GOING TO SET FOR [INAUDIBLE] IS WE OUGHT TO CHUNK AT IT SO THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THREE YEARS AND WE'RE NOT FISHING AROUND THE FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE'RE GONNA DO IT OR NOT.
>> WHEN DOES THE FREEDOM PARK WIELD THIS? WHEN IS THE BID FOR THAT PROJECT?
>> THIS WEEK THAT'S SHOULD BE LOOKED IN AT AND GOING OVER TO 75 PERCENT.
>> SO IT MIGHT BE A COUPLE MORE MONTHS?
>> THE GUY HAD A HEALTH PROBLEM, SO WE HAD SPOKE AT IT LAST WEEK, BUT IT [INAUDIBLE], IT'S LIKE 75 PERCENT DONE.
>> PROBABLY LOOKING FOR THE TIME TO ASK THAT QUESTION NOW.
>> SO THIS BECOMES A ROUTINE PAYMENT, WE GOT A BUDGET EACH EVERY 3 YEARS.
>> ONCE WE START UTILIZING, WE'LL FIND OUT WHETHER IT'S
>> IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH WATER WE GOT TO [INAUDIBLE] TO GET THE ARSON LEVEL NOW.
>> [INAUDIBLE] IT GOES DOWN, [OVERLAPPING].
>> I MEAN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS WELL [INAUDIBLE] FOR A YEAR [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT HAS NEVER BEEN ONLINE SINCE 2016 [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE APPROVED THROUGH THE FUND [OVERLAPPING] FOREVER TO GET TO THE POINT OF [INAUDIBLE] GETTING IT BEING FIXED.
>> I DID FIND SOME MORE METAL THAT'S [INAUDIBLE], BUT THIS MEMBRANE WILL TAKE IT OUT, WE'RE GOOD ON THAT PART.
>> [INAUDIBLE] TALKING WELLS, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WELL, THEY'RE BETWEEN 30 AND 35.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A MILLION DOLLARS TO GET ALL THE TESTING TO MAKE SURE IT'S EVEN FUNCTIONAL FOR A WHILE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THEN ALL THE TESTING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT BEING SELF RELIANT OVER OUR OWN WELLS, BUT THAT'S ALL [INAUDIBLE].
AT THE END, WE CAN FIND OUT THAT THE WATER'S GOT ARSENIC JUST LIKE FREEDOM PARK AND WE'RE NO BETTER OFF.
GO OFF TESTS WERE IN 65 WHEN THEY HAD DIFFERENT STANDARDS AND STUFF.
>> THE WATER DISTRICT NUMBER EIGHT I THINK OVER THERE.
THERE WAS A WELL OVER THERE BUT [NOISE]
>> [INAUDIBLE] END UP LEAVING FOR THE ASSIGNMENT STUDY?
[03:50:04]
>> [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE SIGNAGE, 25, 60,000 FOR THE
>> NO, I THOUGHT HE SAID WE WILL JUST DO THE DESIGN [OVERLAPPING] BEHIND IT [OVERLAPPING]
THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S NOTHING FOR THE MONUMENTS.
>> SIXTY THOUSAND LEFT OVER 500?
>> NO, 6,000 ALLOCATED, THERE'S 440 LAKHS.
>> RIGHT, SO IF WE TAKE OUT THE MEMBRANE AND WE TAKE OUT THE EXCAVATOR, THAT GETS US THERE.
YOU CAN STILL DO THE OTHER PROJECTS.
>> HE SAID WE DON'T NEED IT, YET.
>> RIGHT. THAT'S THREE YEARS FROM NOW.
WE'RE TRYING TO AGAIN, TALK ABOUT FUTURE COSTS AND ALL THAT.
>> BECAUSE IT'LL COME UP AND RUNNING ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING UP THE BOND MONEY.
>> WE PUT IT IN OPERATION, IT HAD IT'S INITIAL MEMBRANE.
THEN YOU GO BACK LATER AND THAT REPLACED THE MEMBRANE AND THAT'S GONE OVER THREE YEARS.
>> WE'LL NEED A BUDGET, ANNUALLY, SO WE DON'T GET HIT WITH THAT ONE PIECE EVERY THROUGH YEAR.
>> MAYBE MY RECOMMENDATION THEN, JOHN IS REDUCED AT 25, SO WE CAN START THAT BUDGET PROCESS.
IN CASE WE CAN PICK THAT IN AN ACCOUNT.
LIKE A SAVINGS MARK, FOR THIS KIND OF THING.
>> YEAH, YOU CAN DEDICATE TO THAT AND PUT IT IN SEPARATE ACCOUNT.
>> YOU [INAUDIBLE] WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] STATION REHABILITATION FEES?
ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW THE LIFT STATION IS IN BAD STATE.
JUST TRYING TO KEEP THEM UP AND RUNNING.
I HAVE AROUND 50 LIFT STATIONS,180 THUMB PUMPS AND MOTORS.
I'M GOING TO HAVE FAILURE. THAT'S A LOT OF PUMPS.
I JUST BOUGHT ONE FOR THE SEWER PLANT, $42,000 FOR ONE PUMP.
JOHN, I WENT OVER AND WE REHABBED THE ONE BESIDE YOUR HOUSE AND YOU SEE WHAT WE TOOK OUT THERE.
I MEAN, THE PIPES ARE CORRODED. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY'RE NOT EVEN THERE AT THE TIME. THEY'RE GONE.
>>YEAH. I THINK LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR, OUR COUNTY REHABBED LIKE 30 OF THEM JUST ON REGULAR BUDGET.
IT'S AROUND $50,000 OR SOMETHING TO REHAB ONE.
LET'S PULL ALL THE PIPING OUT, REDO ALL THE PIPING AND THE ONES THAT WE GOT PROBLEMS WITH AND THIS IS PROBABLY ABOUT A FEW EXTRA PUMPS TO HELP OUT THE ONE THAT WORE OUT AND ALL THAT.
>> AGAIN, WE TALKED TO COMMISSION IN HDR TO LOOK AT ALL THE LIFT STATIONS AS PART OF A GRANDER SCHEME AND SO THIS IS THE BAND-AID QUICK FIX TO START AND DO SOMETHING.
REHABILITATE EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING.
>> I WANT JOHN TO COME BACK AND CAN WE JUST GIVE YOU MONEY FOR REAL ESTATE AND [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT TO ME, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON [OVERLAPPING] THIS COMES FIRST.
THAT WHEN WE LOSE WATER WE STILL HAVE PRESSURE.
HOW MUCH OF THIS WOULD FIX THE [INAUDIBLE] PROBLEM?
IT JUST PUMP A LOT QUICKER BUT THAT'S ALL IT'S GOING TO DO.
>> WE ARE GETTING WITH THAT ARE INUNDATED WHERE WATER IS COMING?
>> YEAH. YOU WILL HAVE SOME OF THAT FIXED AROUND YOUR PIPE AND THEN COME INTO LIFT STATIONS.
>> PUT ONLY AROUND THREE OR FOUR LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S STILL GOING TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> AGAIN, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING SCADA ON 10 OR 15 OF THEM.
THAT'S GOING TO HELP US OUT TOO WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE GET ALARMS AND RUN OUT THERE AND WE KNOW ABOUT THE PUMPS A LOT QUICKER AND ALL THAT.
WE'RE IN A PROCESS OF DOING THAT AND EACH YEAR, WE WERE GOING TO ADD MORE TO THIS SCADA SYSTEM.
>> [NOISE] WHAT THREE WOULD YOU REPLACE OUT OF THESE? WHICH ONES CAN YOU THINK ABOUT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD?
>> OVER THERE, 25 [INAUDIBLE] ROAD.
WHEN IT RAINS, IT TAKES THREE TO FOUR DAYS FOR THAT TO CATCH UP.
>> THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S SHANKS?
>> YEAH. SHANKS, THE ONE THAT RUNS THE TRAILER PARK AT THE END.
>> RUN THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
PLUS IT RUNS STUFF OUT ON 288 ON TOP OF LOCAL AND ON THAT AREA AND IN THERE.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CASEY AT THE BACK END WHERE THIS IS?
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>> WE GOT NUMBER 8 LIFT STATION AND A BIG ONE BY THE POLICE STATION.
NOW, PROBABLY FIVE OTHERS PUMP THERE AND THAT LIFT STATION PUMPS THE NUMBER 7 BEHIND CASEY.
ALL OF THE JAIL, ALL OF THAT GOES TO CASEY.
YOU NEED WE REDONE AND I THINK BACK [NOISE]
>> WE PUT THOSE TWO STORM PUMPS IN.
>> I THINK WE'RE GETTING WHERE THE WHOLE STATION NEED TO BE REHABBED AGAIN.
COUNTY LOOK AT THE FLOW, THAT'S WHAT HDR IS DOING.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A PUMP RUNNING 24 HOURS A DAY MOSTLY OPEN TRYING TO KEEP UP AND A LOT OF THAT IS BIOMASS.
>> A LOT COMES FROM THE LINES, RIGHT?
>> YESTERDAY, MR. COLLINS, I HAD CALLED HIM OUT THROUGH HIS PARENTS' HOUSE OUT THERE.
I WALKED OUT TO A DITCH, THERE WAS A HOLE THAT BIG AROUND AROUND THERE.
THERE'S ALL THIS AND STUFF LIKE THAT WE FIND AND IT HELPS OUT A LOT BUT WE NEED NEW.
>> DID YOU CAPTURE ALL THIS MOVE IN? YEAH. WE'RE JUST TAKING OFF THOSE EXCAVATOR AND THE MEMBRANE AND THEN WE'RE ADDING BACK FOR THEM.
>> THE MEMBRANE FUND [INAUDIBLE] AND 25 WILL GO TO THE MEMBRANE FUND EVERY YEAR.
>> I MEAN, IT DOESN'T GET COMPLICATED BUT, YES.
THE MONEY IS OVER HERE IN GENERAL FUND BALANCE AND YOU WANT ME [INAUDIBLE] AND PUT IN THE [INAUDIBLE] WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT.
>> NO PROBLEM [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND]
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GO INTO SOME LOAN PROGRAM OR SOMETHING.
>> BECAUSE THIS ISN'T WORKING [INAUDIBLE]. [NOISE]
I'VE FORGOT WHICH PAGE IT WAS ON BUT $59 MILLION TO PRETTY MUCH REDO EVERYTHING, THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT. YEAH.
>> FOR EVERYTHING, I THINK JOHN SAYS THAT SOMEWHERE $110 MILLION TO GET EVERYTHING JUST REDONE BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE OVER 10 YEARS.
>> YEAH. SURE, AND WHETHER IT'S LIKE OTHER THINGS, IF WE DON'T START DOING SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER 10 YEARS FOR NOW.
>> WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO SOMETHING [BACKGROUND] [NOISE]
>> I'LL TAKE RESPONSES SO THAT [INAUDIBLE] HERE ANY LONGER.
WE DIDN'T DO NOTHING. WE DIDN'T SPEND NO MONEY.
WE GOT TO COME AROUND, LIKE YOU SAID, WE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE NOW [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING NOW, WE HAVE TO BITE NOW, TAKE CARE OF IT NOW.
>> WE DIDN'T GET OUR MONEY [BACKGROUND] AT ALL.
>> IT COMES UNDER THE SSC [INAUDIBLE] FACTORS FOR EVALUATION [INAUDIBLE] IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PERFORMED AND THEN IDENTIFY THE BIG [OVERLAPPING] AND [INAUDIBLE] KNOWS.
THE POOR SANITARY SERVICE IN THESE STATIONS, THEY'RE PUMPING ALL THIS STUFF THAT IS COMING THERE WHICH IS A LOT OF [INAUDIBLE] THERE.
I WONDER JUST WHAT FLOW RATE YOU'VE BEEN PUMPING IN THE PAST WEEK.
I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO BE JUST INUMBRATE.
>> I WAS GOING TO TRY TO GET BETTER SCADA SYSTEMS DOWN OUT THERE.
>> BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN LACKING FOR WATER.
>> IT IS PROBABLY 8 MILLION A DAY [BACKGROUND] YEAH. ONLY 2 MILLION.
>> AN INTERNAL NUCLEAR FIELD WITH A BIG [INAUDIBLE]
>> YEAH. THE BIG ONE THAT'S ON THE LINE.
>> WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THOSE FOLKS USING THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOLKS.
I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT NOW, EVERY TIME IT'S RAINING, THINK ABOUT THE 14 PLANT OUT THERE THROUGHOUT THE PLANT RIGHT NOW.
>> WE'RE GETTING A BAR SCREEN AND ALL THAT REPLACED OUT THERE ON JUST IT WENT TO BUSINESS AND ALL THAT BUT THEY GOT TO BE OUT THERE.
THEY MANUALLY BREAK IN THE BAR SCREENS RIGHT NOW DURING HEAVY RAINS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] PLANT PEOPLE OR TO PLACE WATER IS FAR [INAUDIBLE] YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT THEM UNTIL YOU NEED IT.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JASON, THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE BEEN FISHING THINGS.
>> WE'RE CHIPPING AWAY LITTLE PIECES AT A TIME.
>> WHERE WE NEEDED IT, CORRECT?
>> THAT'S WHY I'M SO ADAMANT ABOUT TAKING 400-AND-SOMETHING THOUSAND AND START TO REALLY PUTTING OUR MONEY TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND I DO THINK THAT SERVICE [NOISE].
>> CHIPPING AWAY IS NOT WORKING AS FAST AS WE NEED IT OR BAND-AIDING IT.
WE MAYBE GET SERVICE TO GET A BIG CHUNK OF IT TAKEN CARE OF.
THAT'S WHAT THE NEW WATER TOWER IS BEING BUILT, RIGHT?
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>> ALMOST DONE. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE PIECES WE'VE BEEN CHIPPING AWAY AT.
THE NEW WATER WELL AT FREEDOM, I EVER GET IT ONLINE.
I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT BUT I THINK WE'RE FINALLY GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE THE FUNDS NOW THROUGH ADDITIONAL [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE NEED TO SPEND SOME MONEY TO GET IT FIXED, THAT SERVICE. WE WERE THERE.
>> I'M MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH A GUY TO COME DOWN AND LOOK AT CHENANGO WATER PLANT.
WE MIGHT HAVE SOME DIFFERENT IDEALS AND I KNOW YOU-ALL SAID SOMETHING ABOUT LET'S TAKE FROM THE BOTTOM BRANCHES THERE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
I GOT A GUY GOING TO COME DOWN AND LOOK AT IT AND HE CAN REHAB IT.
I SAID IT'S BEEN [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] 2 MILLION AND WHATEVER WE CAN PROBABLY DO 500,000 AND GET IT FIXED AND HE MIGHT GUARANTEE IT FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHOLE TIME ON NEXT WEEK. STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] AND ARP FUNDING.
>> WE PROBABLY SHOULD GET A LIST OF ARP AND FOR ALL.
>> YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR YOU AND WE'LL BRING IT TO YOU FOR APPROVALS LIKE WE DO WITH REPAIRS.
>> I CAME TO [INAUDIBLE] SEE HAPPEN.
[INAUDIBLE] INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
IT'S JUST OUT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS AND [INAUDIBLE] AFFECTS US EVERY DAY.
WE CAN REDUCE OUR OPERATING COST ADDING FEWER PLANTS BY $6,000 A MONTH AND THAT'S JUST MONEY THAT'S QUICK FALLING OUT OF OUR POCKETS, WE CAN USE IT FOR OTHER STUFF.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WATER HERE ON PAGE 8? [NOISE]
>> WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE SUMMARY.
>> YOU CAN JUST TELL THIS OUT.
>> DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THE EXPENSES FIRST THEN COME BACK TO THE SUMMARY PAGE WITH EVERYTHING ON IT? [NOISE]
>> JUST GO THROUGH THE EXPENSES.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE ON PAGE 3.
[OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]. REALLY, THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY CHANGING IN HERE IS THAT ONCE WE'VE GOT COLLEAGUES AT TWO FULL-TIME AND ONE PART-TIME NOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT PART-TIME TO GO TO FULL-TIME SO THAT WE HAVE THREE FULL-TIME PEOPLE.
WHAT ARE YOU TELLING ME, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MANAGE THE WORKLOAD.
THEY'RE ALWAYS HAVING [NOISE] A LOT OF MOVEMENTS VERY UP AND DOWN.
I BELIEVE IT WILL PAY FOR ITSELF BECAUSE THEY COULD DO MORE COLLECTIONS.
THERE'S A LOT OF BAD DEBTS AND CERTAINLY THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO REALLY MANAGE THAT AND SO I THINK IT WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF.
WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT $20,000 FOR THAT PERSON TO GO FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME.
>> YEAH. ALL RIGHT, SO THEN, THAT WOULD BE FOR ONE.
BECAUSE IT'S HALF A YEAR, THAT'S WHY IT'S 20,000.
THAT'S THE TOTAL CHANGE IN THIS DEPARTMENT.
WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY GOING UP, BUT IT'S ONLY GOING TO 3,000 FROM CURRENT BUDGET TO NEXT YEAR.
[NOISE] IT'S NEVER GOING TO CHANGE UNTIL THE COLLECTION, UTILITY BILLING.
JEFF, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO PAGE [NOISE] 8, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO WATER, PAGE 8 ON WATER. [NOISE].
AGAIN, UPDATE FOR EVERYONE, IF YOU HAVE A AMI METER, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN EMAIL LETTING YOU REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT.
[NOISE] WE'VE DONE COUNCIL MAYOR, CITY EMPLOYEES, TO GET OUR FOLKS TRAINED UP AND GET THE BUGS OUT, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND THEN WE'LL ROLL IT OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
>> WE HAD ALREADY GOT AN EMAIL FROM FLOYD SAYING THAT HERE'S THE TRUCKERS AND THE CARD SUPPORT, AND THEN SHE DOESN'T THINK YOU HAVE A NEW METER.
IF YOU THINK YOU DO HAVE A NEW METER AND YOU HAVEN'T GOT THE EMAIL, THEN LET ME KNOW.
WE CAN EITHER REPORT IT TO YOU OR CHECK IF YOU CAN GET THEM.
>> YOU WON'T GET THE EMAIL UNTIL YOU GET A NEW METER?
>> THAT'S GOOD, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE [OVERLAPPING]
>> [INAUDIBLE], DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A [OVERLAPPING] THE PROBLEM WAS WE'RE SETTING IT NOW WITH THE COUNCIL AND EMPLOYEES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE A NEW METER.
THEN I COULD JUST AMOUNT TO ROLL OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE METER, AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE THAT HAS THE METER WILL ROLL OUT IN AUGUST,
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AND THEN ABOUT THE LAST GROUP WILL BE SEPTEMBER [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE] AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE IT BOUGHT.>> UNLESS YOU'RE RIGHT, CHRIS WHITAKER, AND YOU GET YOUR SPRINKLER METERS, A NEW AMI METER, AND YOUR REGULAR METER.
>> I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MANAGE THAT.
>> I'M GOING TO USE THEM SPRINKLER METERS FOR [INAUDIBLE].
>> MANAGERS WE ARRIVED BUT WE'RE [LAUGHTER] NOT BILLED ON THE SPRINKLERS.
>> I KNOW I'M NOT. [LAUGHTER] WHO'S BILLING ME?
>> I TURN THEM INTO SPRINKLER.
WE PROBABLY GOT ANOTHER 2,500 METERS, BUT I THINK WE HAD 5,000 TOO ON IT.
[OVERLAPPING] AND WE'RE GETTING DOWN THERE.
>> STILL, WE'RE ON SCHEDULE TO FINISH THE RESIDENTS BY THE END OF AUGUST LIKE WE PLANNED.
IT WILL JUST BE THE BIGGER METERS FOR MAYBE SOME NON-RESIDENTIAL METERS THAT IT'S GOT TO FREQUENTLY END OF SEPTEMBER BECAUSE YOU'RE SET TO GET AN APARTMENT, GET STARTED.
I HAVEN'T STARTED YET. WE DID TEMPORARY METERS.
>> OUR COUNTY WATCHED THE DANBURY COUNCIL MEETING AND ALL THAT AND THEY WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THEY NEEDED SOME METERS.
THEY HAD A SUBDIVISION OF 100 METERS IN IT.
RD3 COME IN AND THEY TOOK ALL THE [INAUDIBLE] OFF AND LEFT.
THEY WERE NOT CHARGING THESE PEOPLE THIS MINIMUM BILL.
OUR COUNTY GOT WITH ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HE SAID, I'M JERKING A LOT OF METERS OUT.
SOMEWHAT, IT MIGHT BE GOOD, THEY MIGHT NOT BE [NOISE] AT THAT.
HE WAS GOING TO GO BACK, TALK TO THE MAYOR.
I THOUGHT ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, DONATING OR SELLING 100 OF THE USED METERS. I WAS GOING TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE COME TO COUNCIL, AND DO WE SELL THEM FOR SCRAP ANYWAYS, BUT WE SELL THEM IN ANOTHER CITY FOR PRICE PER POUND.
>> RIGHT NOW, WE JUST SELL THEM SCRAP AS THE PRICE FOR THE BRASS. I DON'T KNOW.
BUT JUST WHAT WE GOT IN THE GROUND NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, "OH, NO WAY" AND WE GO BACK AND WE SHOW THEM THE GRAPH AND AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, YOU HAVE WATER RUNNING.
WELL, WE CAN DO THAT. WE ARE STARTING TO SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR REVENUE THERE ARE WATER.
>> WE ARE INCREASINGLY UPSET CUSTOMERS. [NOISE]
>> A LITTLE BIT OF [LAUGHTER] UPSET CUSTOMERS, PROBABLY FEEL SAYING THEY'RE NOT USING IT.
BUT ME AND CROWLEY GOT TOGETHER AND THERE AIN'T NO USE TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE ADJUSTMENTS LIKE WE USED TO, BECAUSE NOW WE CAN PROVE THAT IT WENT TO THE METER.
THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING, THEY LEFT THE WATER ON RUNNING FOR [INAUDIBLE].
THEY SAY THE METER IS NOT WORKING, WE'LL SWAP IT OUT.
BUT IF THEY'RE WRONG, WE HAVE TO CHARGE THEM FOR IT.
BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY SWAP OUT A METER IF WE DON'T, AND THEN TEST IT AND SEE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY HAVE CHARGE ON A TEST FEE.
BUT THEY WERE ONE TO USE METERS ARE TESTED BEFORE THEY'RE PUT IN THE GROUND.
[NOISE] THEY COME WITH THE BAG ON, SHOWS THEM WHAT THEY READ.
>> CHANCES ON THAT NOT WORKING ARE VERY SLIM.
>> THE METERS ARE WRAPPED BUT THEY'D SWITCH THE ADDRESSES IN THE DEAL.
THIS LADY CALLED ME ABOUT HER BILL.
I WENT OVER THERE FOR A WHOLE WEEK.
I SAID, "YOU'VE GOT TO [INAUDIBLE]." SHE DID NOT.
SHE WOULD GET IN THE NEIGHBOR DEAL.
[LAUGHTER] I HAD TO GO AROUND AND APOLOGIZE AND ALL THAT AND GET THEM BACK.
>> WE NEED TO GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT [OVERLAPPING] IN THE RESIDENTS.
>> THEN FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY ARE RIGHT.
>> IT IS. THAT LADY WAS SO HAPPY.
>> [BACKGROUND] LET'S KEEP GOING.
>> LET ME TAKE THAT THROUGH MY EMAIL.
>> SHALL I THINK OF WHAT I SAID WERE THE MOST DANGEROUS?
>> JUST STOOD, HEY, [INAUDIBLE] A SUMMATION OF WATER USERS THAT WERE IN ARREARS, AND IT WAS MEGA DOLLARS.
WE'LL LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THAT.
>> THAT'S WHAT CHRIS WAS TALKING ABOUT.
IF WE GET SOME HELP HOW FAR THESE GIRLS CAN GET THIS LIST OUT MORE AND WE CAN WORK THE ARREARS LIST.
[OVERLAPPING] RIGHT NOW, WE WORK A FEW OVER $500, WE'VE GOT TO HANG A LETTER A CUT YOU OFF.
>> BUT PAST CUSTOMERS, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH A COLLECTION AGENCY THAT THEY GET A PERCENT, AND SO THEY'LL DEAL WITH ORGANIZING THESE PEOPLE.
THEY'RE CUT OFF, THEY'RE GONE, THEY'RE WHATEVER.
WE'RE TRYING TO CHASE THEM DOWN TRYING TO GET MONEY BACK.
>> [NOISE] THE OTHER THING THAT PEOPLE GET IN THEIR MIND IS TRY TO ABUSE THE SYSTEM.
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[NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] YOU DON'T WANT TO GET INTO WATER PROBLEM, CUT IT OFF.>> I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY MORE CHANGES. [NOISE]
>> LOOK AT THE WATER [INAUDIBLE].
[NOISE] YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S THERE TO THE RIGHT THERE, OBVIOUSLY IN THE SUMMER GOING DOWN HERE.
MAINLY IT'S THE LAW [INAUDIBLE].
[NOISE] THEN WE'VE GOT A 2.44 PERCENT INCREASE ON VWA THAT'S [INAUDIBLE]. [NOISE] THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT IS.
[NOISE] ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WATER WITH REGARDS TO [NOISE] PAGE 11? THIS IS THE SEWER, THIS IS THE LIFT STATION, THE LINE, AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE SEWER FROM THE TOWN TO THE SEWER PLANT.
YOU SAY AT 315 57315 THAT WENT UP.
SOME OF THESE PUMPS, THIS IS THE BUY SOME EXTRA PUMPS OR REPLACE THEM, WHAT I NEED TO HOLD THE LIFT STATIONS.
THAT 56,000 IS MORE OF REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.
IT'S ALL IN THAT ACCOUNT RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE THE ACCOUNT IS 60,000.
[NOISE] THE ONES THAT ARE COMING OUT JOHN ARE ON PAGE 12, UNDER 600 ACCOUNTS [NOISE].
ABSOLUTELY. A LOT OF THEM ARE ESCALATED.
[INAUDIBLE] 600 SERIES BECAUSE THAT'S THE STUFF OUR COUNTLESS PROJECTS THAT MOST OF THAT CAN BE MOVED TO A BOND OR DEBT SERVICE OR THE AIR [INAUDIBLE].
THE MAINTENANCE TECH, THAT'S AGAIN AT 1 APRIL.
WHAT'S THAT PERSON RIGHT THERE? I WAS PROBABLY GOING TO TELL YOU THAT STAYS [INAUDIBLE].
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY NOW? I'VE GOT THREE GUYS WHO ARE IN LIFT STATION.
WHEN I CAME HERE 32 YEARS AGO, WE HAD FOUR PEOPLE WORK LIFT STATION.
I AM PULLING MY GRADER OPERATOR TO WORK LIFT STATIONS.
HOW MANY MORE LIFT STATIONS HAVE WE ADDED THIS INSTANT? PROBABLY 10, 12.
IT WENT UP IN FACILITIES, DOWN IN MANAGEMENT? RIGHT.
[INAUDIBLE] CAN GET RID OF SOMEBODY [LAUGHTER].
[OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] YOU HAVE A JOB BEFORE [LAUGHTER].
WE'D HAVE GOTTEN IT, WE WERE PULLING THEM OVER THOUGH.
CHECK LIFT STATIONS, BECAUSE MY GUYS WILL GO OUT EVEN ON THE WEEKENDS AND CHECK THE MAIN STATION [OVERLAPPING].
I'D DO IT ON THE WEEKENDS, DRIVING AROUND.
THE FLATS; 71, THAT'S ON PAGE 13.
IT'S ONLY TO JUST TALK TO YOU.
WE IDENTIFIED SOME ISSUES OUT THERE AS FAR AS IT BEING DARK.
JUST PUT UP SOME LIGHTING ON THE STEPS, ON THE CATWALK.
WE'VE GOT SOME MORE WORK TO DO TO IMPROVING AS FAR AS HEALTH AND SAFETY.
WE GOT A LIGHT OUT BY THE MAIN GATE NOW, WHERE THE KEYPAD IS.
THEN WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING THAT GATE OUT FURTHER TOWARD THE ROAD, WHICH WOULD HELP, EVENTUALLY, BUILD UP THE ROADS AS WE IMPROVE THE LEVEE, WHICH IS ONGOING.
AGAIN, MITIGATE THAT AS A GAP IN THE LEVEE SYSTEM.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING OUT THERE.
AGAIN, TO REFRESH; SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT IS OUTDATED.
SO I AUTHORIZED JEFF, WE BROUGHT IN [INAUDIBLE] TO GIVE HIS PRESENTATION ON LAB STUFFS; WE GOT A LOT MORE MODERN LAB THINGS.
TIME TO GET AWAY FROM THE BUCKET SAMPLINGS.
WE'RE GETTING SAMPLING STATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT OUT THERE.
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CAN IS LOOKING AT OUR LAB, WHERE HE'S DOING THE WHOLE LAB, COUNTING AND SEEING WHAT WE NEED, LIKE CHRIS SAID, ESPECIALLY SAFETY ISSUES: HOW THEY HANDLED THE SEWER, MAKE SURE THE PPES ARE GOOD, THEIR SINKS, THE WORKSHOP STATIONS [BACKGROUND].EVEN THE BUILDING, WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE WORD OPERATOR, OR OLGA, CAN LOOK THROUGH AND SEE THE LAB AND MAYBE SEE OUTSIDE AND DO A LOT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.
[OVERLAPPING] CONCERNING OUR LAB, DO THEY FIX STUFF OR IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ORGANIZATION, [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE], IT'S SAFETY? WE'RE REPLACING THE BAR SCREENS OUT THERE, THAT'S ALREADY DONE; THE SKATED SYSTEM.
WE WAS LOOKING AT RAISING THE BLOWERS UP.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF THEM, HIRE A RATION BASINS HOUSE SERVICE AS A GUIDE TO FEEDERS THAT FELL OFF THE BOTTOM.
THAT'S A LOT OF WASTE AND AIR COMING OUT, SO WE GOT TO RUN THREE BLOWERS REAL HARD TO GET OUR RATIONS, KEEP THIS AMMONIA DOWN.
I'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT AND THAT'S PROBABLY COME OUT OF THE REGULAR BUDGET HERE.
THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 30,000 A WALL.
TO LOOK AT DRAINING THEM, LOOK AT IT AND THE MAIN ROUTE GOING TO THE OTHER CLARIFIER, THINGS IN IT.
WE RUN ON A PROCESS, NOT LOT OF WORK OUTTURN.
LIKE HE SAID, RAZOR AND LEVY, THEY ALREADY STARTED ON THAT.
WE MIGHT COME MOVE THE GATE BACK, SAVE A LOT OF MONEY, INSTEAD OF PUTTING A ROAD IN THERE, THINGS IN THE ROADS, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW TOO.
JUST LIKE THE 315 571 315 ON PAGE 14 WENT OUT, AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE BOTTOM OF THE [INAUDIBLE] [BACKGROUND].
LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THESE PUMPS ARE ABOUT 42,000, AND YOU'VE GOT ABOUT $18,000 SOLAR MOTORS TO GO ON TOP OF THAT.
THEN YOU GOT AN INSTALLMENT FEE AND ALL THAT. THAT'S WHY.
DO YOUR SEWER [INAUDIBLE] STATIONS PUMP INTO THE PLANT? THESE ARE PUMPS INSIDE OF PUMPS TO THE [INAUDIBLE].
WE HAVE TWO STORM FOR DRY PIT PUMPS.
THESE ARE 50 HORSEPOWER PUMPS.
THEY'RE BIG, SO THEY PUMP A LOT OF SEWER.
ALL THE SEWERS? YEAH. WE ARE IN LOOKING AT PROCESS THAT MAY BE DOING LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, DOING ANOTHER LIFT STATION.
PUTTING FIVE OR SIX PUMPS, THEN A LIFT STATION, DO AWAY WITH THAT DRY WELL BECAUSE THAT THING IS DANGEROUS.
THE WET WELLS HAVE THREE BARS SHOWING TO THEM, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT REPLACING THAT, SO WE'RE GETTING ASSESSED ON AND ALL THAT TO UPGRADE THAT SEWER PLANT.
[NOISE] ANYTHING ON THE THIRD PLAN?
>> WELL, MAGIC HAPPENS [LAUGHTER] AT THE END [LAUGHTER].
>> IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT [INAUDIBLE].
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A [OVERLAPPING].
IT'S RIGHT AFTER THE FLAT SPACE 14.
[NOISE] THESE AGREES THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE WATER SIDE, WE HAVEN'T HAD A RATE INCREASE SINCE 2003, 13, 14, EXCEPT FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] WHICH WE'RE JUST PASSING THAT WE'RE NOT KEEPING IT OUT OF MONEY, AND THE IMPACT FEES, WHICH WE ISSUED DEBT FOR THAT, THAT HAS TO PAY FOR THE DEBT.
IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME FROM 2013 TO 2020, POPULATION HAS BEEN FOUR PERCENT.
WHAT HAS BEEN FIVE PERCENT JUST THIS YEAR THROUGH MAY.
SO IT'S UP 17 PERCENT AND WE HAVEN'T HAD AN INCREASE THERE.
THINGS THAT JEFF'S BUYING ARE GOING UP BECAUSE OF COST INCREASES.
BUT YET WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY EXTRA MONEY TO DEAL WITH THAT.
IN THE STUDY THAT WE JUST REVIEW, WHICH THAT'S WHAT THAT IS LOOKING AT THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FINANCIAL PLAN.
IT SAYS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND THE OPERATIONS AND THE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED WITHOUT AN INCREASE.
A THIRD OF THIS BUDGET IS NOT GOING TO BALANCE WITHOUT AN INCREASE.
WE CAN TAKE EVERYTHING BACK TO BARE-BONES WHERE WE ARE NOW, BUT THEN CONTINUE ON AND SEE HOW LONG IT LASTS.
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BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME INCREASE TO MAKE EVERYTHING COME TOGETHER.WE'RE GOING TO DO THE NEW REVENUE PROPERTY RATE AND DO THAT ON THE WATER SIDE, IT'S ONE OF THE TWO YOU HAVE TO GIVE OR ELSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO BARE BONE, AND TAKE ALL OF THESE THINGS OUT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
WE DREW A LINE ANY OF THE DAY THOUGH, WE THINK ABOUT IT.
>> GENERAL FUND IS FUNDING THE UTILITY FUND.
SO TECHNICALLY, DBLP IS FUNDING UTILITY FUND AND DRAW THE LINE.
[LAUGHTER] I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THAT BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT AGAIN, IN THE TEAM OF UTILITIES.
UTILITIES GENERALLY SUPPORT OTHER SWOT GENERAL FUND IN THE CITY.
YOU CAN CALL IT HOW YOU WANT ON THAT, BUT THAT'S YOUR BALANCED REVENUE FUND.
GENERALLY, THAT'S AGAIN HOW YOU DO A TRANSFER FROM UTILITY FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT OTHER THINGS LIKE PARKS, POLICE DEPARTMENTS, WHATEVER THAT DON'T GENERATE THOSE REVENUES.
THERE'S SO MUCH A POLITICAL ANNOUNCEMENT.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW CREATIVE I WAS ABOUT DRAWING LINES BETWEEN THEM.
>> I'M PRETTY SURE YOU AND CHRIS REHEARSED THAT.
[INAUDIBLE] PROJECTS WITH THIS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THREATS [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT ARE OUT THERE WAS LAID DOWN RIGHT.
>> MAYBE OUR RATE IS VERY LOW COMPARATIVELY BUT I MEAN, I KNOW THE CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IT IN TOTALS.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, "WHAT'S MY TOTAL BILL?" LET'S LOOK AT WHAT THE NEXT PAGE THAT'S IN PLACE, THE PWA, THEN YOU'LL GET TO THE LU JIN.
THAT HAS THE TOTALS, THEN THAT'S THE CURRENT RATE.
IF YOU FLIP BACK SOME MORE YOU GOT THE SCENARIO THAT THEY GAVE US.
THEY BASICALLY GAVE US ONE AND TWO SCENARIOS.
WHICH ONE DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE BIG CAPITAL PROJECTS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO THEN GO PLAN OR SECRETE IMPROVEMENTS.
TWO HAS EVERYTHING AND ALL THE CAPITAL STUFF THAT WE NEED, EXCEPT FOR THE WATER BOARD SET FOR THAT BIG $57 MILLION WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT GETTING INTO THE WATER BOARD, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN HERE, OF COURSE CAPITAL.
THEN THE OPTIONS A AND B, OR WHETHER WE HAVE A FULL TRANSFER WHERE THE UTILITY BUTTON HAS TO COVER ALL OF ITS COSTS NEXT YEAR WITH THAT A, THEN B IS WHERE WE TRY TO PHASE IT IN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, SAY FIVE YEARS.
LET'S LOOK AT IF YOU GO BACK THE NEXT PAGE, THAT'S WHAT THE REVENUES NEED TO BE TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS.
FOR ROW 1, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW YOU COULD GO TO THE RATES.
THAT'S THE NEXT PAGE AFTER THAT ONE SAYS, IN OUR CURRENT TOTAL RATE OF 63.42.
IN ORDER TO GO TO GET TO THE SCENARIOS, IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER LOOKED AT ON THE VERY NEXT PAGE, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY TELLS YOU, COMPARED TO THE OTHER CITIES.
EVERYBODY ON THE PAGE WITH 2,000 GALLONS?
>> THE VERY LAST ONE CLOUD AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE LOOK AT.
JUST REAL QUICK ON THE ON THE TWO, IF YOU'RE ONTO THE PEOPLE THAT WILL ONLY ABOUT 2,000 GALLONS WOULD GET LESS OF AN INCREASE THEY WOULD ON THE BASE SCENARIOS MIXTURE, THEY WOULD HAVE A $3.50 INCREASE ON THEIR TOTAL BILL AND $8.67 AS [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE FOUR WEEKS BELOW, I'LL CALL IT ALLOCATE IN ALL CAPITALS BUT FOR THE NORMAL CUSTOMER IS ABOUT 5,000 GALLONS.
THAT PERSON TODAY IS PAYING ABOUT 63.42.
WE SEE THE ANGLETON CURRENT RATE AT THE BOTTOM? THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PAYING TODAY.
$40 IN WATER, AND 23.34 IN SEWERS.
IF WE GO TO ONE OR TWO B, THEY WOULD PAY $69.13, WHICH IS A $5.71 INCREASE.
IT'S $2 ON WATER 3.71 ON SEWER.
THAT GETS YOU TO THE RELEASE SCENARIOS.
A, WHICH IS WHERE EVERYTHING'S LOAD AND WE COVER ALL OUR COSTS.
THAT WOULD BE A $14.40 INCREASE, $6 ON WATER AND $8.40 ON SEWER.
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YOU CAN PUT IT ON EITHER SIDE, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOT TO BE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO GET EVERYTHING TO BALANCE.WE NEED THE 14.40 TO MAKE THE BUDGET BALANCE LIKE IT IS.
WE'LL COME BACK DOWN HERE TO THIS 5.71 OR ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RE-EVALUATE WHAT COMES OUT.
>> YOU LOADED THE BUDGET BASED OFF FROM SCENARIO 1A?
>> YES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT, THAT THE REVENUE IS, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO COVER ALL THE COST IN THE WATER, AS WELL AS, ALTHOUGH THAT WOULD COVER THE 625,000 PROJECTS.
IF IT WOULD COME DOWN, IF WE PICK THAT'S SOME OF THAT 625 AND A FUNDER WITH LIKE YOU SAID, WITH A FUND BALANCE, IT WOULD COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THAT'S EVERYTHING IN THERE.
>> I DON'T SEE GIVING YOUR RESIDENTS $14 INCREASE IN ONE YEAR AT ALL [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE ONE WORD INCLUDES [INAUDIBLE] WHICH IS SCENARIO 2, THAT MEANS THAT IS A DOLLAR POLICY SIMULATOR OR A MILLION DOLLARS.
>> TWO THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE CAPITAL COST? TWO IS [NOISE] THE HEAVIEST WHAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING.
BUT THE WAY THEY'VE GOT IT SPREAD OUT THAT THE DIFFERENCE IS WITH A'S AND B'S, WHICH IS WHETHER WE MAKE THE CALL STAND ALONE OR WE TRY TO PHASE IT IN.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW IT'S BALANCED BECAUSE WE'VE GOT FULL AMOUNT IN THERE, AND THAT'S ABOUT $850.
IF YOU TRY TO PHASE IT IN OVER FIVE YEARS AND NOW WE'VE GOT TO TAKE $6,000 OUT OF THE GENERAL BUDGET.
WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GET TO 200.
THAT'S THE SUMMER PULLING FROM FUND BALANCE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I THOUGHT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE EFFICIENCY NEXT YEAR.
ALL THESE NEW ELECTRONIC METERS, YOU GOING TO RAISE YOUR REVENUE? [LAUGHTER] THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL KEEP SAYING?
>> WELL, IN SOME CASES, WE'VE HAD [NOISE] RESIDENCES HAVE THE OLD METER AND THEY HAVE THEIR $80 BILL AND THEY GOT A NEW METER AND THEN THEIR $80 BILL [NOISE].
CHRIS, I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH -
>> SPOT ON. THE NEW METER JUST VALIDATED THAT HIS METER WAS WORKING AND HIGHLY ACCURATE AND WHATEVER.
>> WHICH I THOUGHT THAT THE SELLING POINT THAT ALL THESE GUYS WILL TELL YOU IS YOUR EMR REVENUE. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.
>> WELL, BUT YOU'RE ALSO HELPING OUT THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE DETECTING LEAKS, WHICH NOW THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR.
IN SOME CASE, THEY MAY LOSE REVENUE BECAUSE THEY'LL REALIZE THEY HAVE A LEAK AND THEY GET IT FIXED OR NOT.
>> THE COMMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE, "YOU PUT ALL THESE NEW ELECTRONIC METERS AND NOW YOU'RE RAISING MY WATER RATE $7."
>> WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE.
>> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO THINK, "I HAVE A NEW METER AND NOW MY RATE WENT TO $7 A MONTH. ".
>> GET THE INFORMATION OUT AND MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING THEIR BILLS AND WE'LL HAVE TO RAISE THE TAX RATE.
WE'VE GOT TO GET THE MONEY TO START GROWN [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]. [INAUDIBLE].
HOW MANY OF YOU ALL HAVE THE BASIC BILL?
>> WHEN YOU GO TO PERCENTAGE [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT'S THE $5,000 GALLON BILL.
THE BASIC BILL IS $2,000 BILL LESS.
>> OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU IN A DIFFERENT WAY THEN.
HOW MANY OF YOU THINK [LAUGHTER]?
>> YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE BECAUSE THAT IS JUST WATER AND SEWERS.
>> [INAUDIBLE] WE DID USE A WHOLE LOT OF WATER [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE].
>> BUT YOU ARE GOING TO NEED MORE THAN 5,000 GALLONS [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
>> IT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT MORE FOR MOST PEOPLE.
>> SOMEBODY HAD TOLD ME 5,000 GALLONS.
>> JUST IN THIS ROOM ALONE YOU CAN SEE THE DICHOTOMY THAT VERY FEW USE LESS WATER ALLOWING HEAVY WATER USERS.
>> IT FEELS LIKE AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE.
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IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO [INAUDIBLE] OF SOME [INAUDIBLE] AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO ENGAGE IN THAT.I THINK WE SHOULD BE ACTUALLY ENGAGING NOW WITH OUR COMMUNICATION.
WITH NOTICES, WHETHER AGAIN WE SHOULD DO IT ELECTRONICALLY OR WHATEVER WE'RE DOING PAPER COPIES, WHATEVER WE'RE SENDING OUT, CITY COUNCIL IS NOW CONSIDERING OPTIONS.
THEY WILL TELL YOU WHAT STATISTICALLY BUT THAT WILL RESULT IN A SLIGHT RAISE BECAUSE OF AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND HAVING TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
WE EXPECT IT IN THE FUTURE THERE WILL BE SOME RAISE.
LET'S START NOW SO WE'RE BREAKING THE GROUND AND EDUCATING THE PEOPLE SLASH PREPARING THEM SO IT'S NOT SUCH A HARD [INAUDIBLE].
[NOISE] THEY WILL FOLLOW AND AS YOU'RE SAYING, TALKING [INAUDIBLE] TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE YOU [INAUDIBLE].
WELL, WE HAVE TO FUND THAT SOMEHOW.
BUT ANYWAY, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OCTOBER 1ST AND THEN WE'VE GOT BASICALLY THREE MONTHS 90 DAYS [INAUDIBLE] START APPROACHING THE SUBJECT.
>> MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU SAID, EDUCATED.
IT'S JUST LIKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL HOME.
AS THE HOME AGES, THINGS BREAK.
YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THINGS, YOU HAVE TO FIX THINGS.
CHRIS WAS TELLING THE STORIES OF HIS HOUSE, OF ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER HE IS FINDING BUT HOPEFULLY WHEN HE'S FIXED IT ALL [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE OPEN BROKEN SEWER LINE IN THE BACK OF MY HOUSE.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY INCREASE. WE EDUCATE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE AN INCREASE IN X AMOUNT OF TIME, FOLKS.
THINGS HAVE GONE UP, MAYBE JUST MATERIALS.
IF IT WASN'T EVEN FIXING THINGS, MATERIAL THEY'VE GOT TO PRODUCE NORMAL EVERYDAY WEAR AND TEAR THAT YOU'VE GOT TO FIX TO GO WITH COSTS GOING UP, AND WE'RE NOT.
WE'RE BURYING ALL THAT FRUIT AND HAVE TO FOREGO SOMETHING ELSE JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THAT WHILE WE KNOW WE GOT THAT TO TAKE CARE OF ON TOP OF THIS.
SORRY FOR USING THIS WITH THAT.
BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS A WATER BILL WILL.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU. THIS MAY HAVE A WHOLE OTHER SYSTEM.
>> WE HAVE TO TELL THE PEOPLE COULD REPEAT THE QUESTION [INAUDIBLE], BUT WE HAVE TO EDUCATE THEM AND GIVE THEM THE FACT AND TO TRY TO ATTRACT THE ATTENTION.
>> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY.
BUT WHATEVER WE AGREE ON, MAYBE ANOTHER STEP WE TAKE.
>> I KNOW OUR ASSISTANT DON'T TAKE US UP ON THAT SORT.
BUT ANOTHER OPEN HOUSE, WHEN WE GET TO THERE, WHATEVER WE DECIDE UPON, COME SEPTEMBER WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS BEFORE IT GETS AFFECTED.
I KNOW THAT ATTACKED IN OCTOBER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO START MOVING NOW WITH EDUCATION BECAUSE THE WORST THING IS IF WE WAIT TILL IT HAD HAPPENED.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH. IT HAD BEEN DECIDED.
>> NOW IF WE TELL HIM WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT.
YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND EXPRESS YOUR FEELINGS.
>> AT LEAST THEY'D HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE HER.
>> [INAUDIBLE] DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL YOU GUYS CAN HELP ME OUT [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> OH, YEAH. I GOT YOUR [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER].
NO ONE HERE CAN SPEND CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING OUT OF YOUR POCKET.
WOULD YOU PREFER TO PAY THAT IS A WATER BILL OR PAY IT AS A TAX? [INAUDIBLE].
I CAN DEDUCT THE TAX, BUT I CAN'T DEDUCT THE WATER BILL.
IF THAT SAME MONEY DOES COME OUT OF A WATER BILL THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I COULD BE PAYING FOR IT AS A LOAN TAXES.
SHALL WE GO ON? WE'RE GOING TO BUILD NEW WATER PLAN.
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OUT OF WATER RATE OR WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THAT OUT OF THE WATER TAX.
IF I'M PAYING AS A RESIDENT, I CAN DEDUCT MY TAX, BUT I CAN'T DEDUCT THE WATER BILL.
PEACEFUL WOULD PREFER TO PAY THE INCREASE NEEDED TO FUND THE WATER DEPARTMENT OR THE SEWER DEPARTMENT OUT OF MY WATER TAXES.
HAVE I PAID IT OUT OF MY LEFT POCKET OR I'M PAYING IT OUT OF MY RIGHT POCKET? IT'S COMING OUT OF MY PAD. OKAY.
>> BUT HERE'S THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH OUR BUDGET IS ALREADY DOING THAT.
AS CHRIS SAID, IF WE DON'T FIX THAT,
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND CUT OUT OF ALL THE THINGS WE ALREADY DISCUSSED AND GOING TO DISCUSS TO FIND THAT SAVINGS TO PAY THE WATER CHALLENGE.>> BUT I'M SAYING IF WE DON'T DO THE RATE INCREASE.
>> NO. HE'S SAYING [INAUDIBLE].
>> WHATEVER YOU GOING TO FIND OUT OF THE RATE INCREASE, THAT X DOLLARS, YOU APPLY IT TO THE TAX RATE.
UNTIL YOU GET IT THROUGH TAXES RATHER THAN -
>> BUT WE ARE SAYING NO NEW REVENUES AND NOW WE'RE TAKING OUT OF THE EXISTING FUNDING.
>> NO. HE'S SAYING NOT TO DO THE NON-NEW REVENUES.
>> RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M BRINGING IT UP.
WE'RE HEADING DOWN THE PATH OF NON-NEW REVENUE BUDGET AND WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED ANYTHING ELSE AND SO WE'RE GOING NO NEW REVENUE.
WE'VE GOT TO PAY FOR IT SOMEHOW, OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO CUT OTHER PROJECTS.
>> [INAUDIBLE] IS THIS LEGAL OR NOT LEGAL.
DO YOU GUYS WANT TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE BUNCH OF [INAUDIBLE] TO DO THAT?
>> WE'RE ALREADY DOING IT. WE'RE SUPPLEMENTING THE UTILITY FUND OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT IT MEANS IF WE CAN'T FIND MORE POLICE, MORE PARKS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE SAY WE WANT TO DO OR NEED TO DO OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE.
THEY'RE GETTING FROM THAT SAME FUND, THEY'RE GETTING FROM TAXES OR SALES TAX.
>> WE CAN'T DO THIS THOUGH BECAUSE WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS DOING SOME OF THE BIG PROJECTS WHICH WILL END UP PROBABLY DOING DEBT SERVICE ON AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE DEBT SERVICE HAS TO BE TIED TO THE WATER AND ENTERPRISE FUND, CORRECT? YOU CAN'T TIE THAT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
YOU'RE OBLIGATING THE GENERAL FUND TO WATER AND SEWER, WHICH ISN'T ENTERPRISES.
>> IT DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF DEBT YOU ISSUE, WHETHER WHAT IT'S BACKED UP WITH IT'S REALLY THE FINANCIAL MECHANISM THAT YOU USE.
>> RIGHT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU'RE BURDENING THE GENERAL FUND, THE PROPERTY TAX WITH ENTERPRISE FUND WHICH I THINK IN MY REMEMBERING, JOE MORROW CORRECTLY AND THOSE GUYS, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
>> WE CAN'T FIND OUT FOR THAT WAY.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THE BIG PROJECTS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> BEYOND THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, RIGHT? WHEN WE GET TO FIXING THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THINGS OR FIXING THE BIG PROBLEMS THAT [INAUDIBLE], WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ON DEBT SERVICE AND THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE DISCUSSION ABOUT RATE INCREASED TO FINANCE THAT BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
THE NUMBERS [INAUDIBLE] 110 MILLION, LET'S JUST SAY IT'S GOING TO BE 50 MILLION FOR ALL THE PROJECTS WE DECIDE TO DO RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A RATE INCREASE AND JUST LIKE WE HAVE HERE, HOW DO WE WANT TO CHUCK OUT THAT TO GET TO THAT FINANCING OF THAT NUMBER AND IT'S GOT TO BE THROUGH A RATE INCREASE.
[INAUDIBLE] AND YOU CAN MAKE IT UP WATER AND SEWER SIDE DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH YOU TAKE FROM EACH OF THAT. SO I AGREE WITH YOU.
>> I HEAR WHAT'S SAM'S WORTH. I AGREE.
BUT ALSO, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ALL THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS IN MY HEAD OF WHAT THE CITIZENS GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ON THAT.
IF YOU TOOK IT OUT OF THE PROPERTY TAX, LET'S JUST SAY THERE'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WHO RENT.
NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE RAISING THEIR MONTHLY RENT TO PAY FOR THIS AS OPPOSED TO PAYING THEIR WATER BILL.
BECAUSE WHOEVER OWNS THE HOUSE IS PROBABLY GOING TO PASS ON THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX IN THE FORM OF RAISING THEIR RENT.
>> WELL, HONESTLY, THEY HAVE THEIR SEPARATE ACCOUNTS.
>> I MEAN, I'M SAYING IF YOU DID IT THROUGH THE PROPERTY TAX.
>> AS OPPOSED TO IF I HAD CONTROL OVER MY WATER BILL, I'M A RENTER AND I'M PAYING MY WATER BILL.
"OH, THEY RAISE MY RATES, WELL, THERE'S THINGS THAT I CAN DO.
I CAN TAKE OUT THE KEEPING OF SOME BEAUTIFUL CONTRIBUTION OR THE FIRE CONTRIBUTION." BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE REDUCTION.
I MEANT TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH CHIEF A WHILE AGO BUT, A LOT OF CITIZENS, THE FIRST TIME YOU RAISE THEIR RATES, KB AND FIRE, THEY GET CUT.
>> WELL, I THINK IT DID WHEN WE FIRST BACK THERE.
>> I REMEMBER I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE.
>> I REMEMBER A COUPLE [INAUDIBLE].
>> AS A RENTER, I WILL HAVE CONTROL AND THE THINGS THAT I COULD DO.
>> THINGS LIKE THAT. WITH THE PROPERTY TAX, A RENTER NOW IS GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER RENT.
THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN CONTROL ON IT.
I CAN GET BEHIND SIX DOLLARS, SEVEN DOLLARS HERE THIS YEAR ON THE WATER RATE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROL OF THE COST AND THEY CAN MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ON THAT.
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>> NOT TAKING SHOWERS PROBABLY WAS YOUR PLAN.
>> I MEAN, THE SEVEN DOLLARS WOULD GET US HALFWAY THERE, AND THEN WE CAN RE-EVALUATE THINGS.
IT SEEMS LIKE A FAIR COMPROMISE.
>> WE'RE NOT REALLY WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS LATE JACKSON'S ARE DOING THERE.
SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOUSTON, AND IT BLEW UP ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S JUST A LARGER LEAD IN NETWORKS THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE ORIGINATED IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON.
FOR ME, IT'S A CLASSIC VERSE. I SEE THAT.
I'M SURE WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES BESIDES OF THE CITY THAT HAVEN'T INVESTED ABOUT.
>> THE OTHER REASON NOT TO DO THE PROPERTY TAX.
YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY THERE REALLY, BECAUSE EVEN IF IT WENT FROM 0.665-0.71, WE'RE AT $500,000.
YOU WOULD REALLY GOT TO RAISE THAT RATE UP THERE TO GET THAT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] BUT ONLY ACCOMMODATION I'M PAYING IN THERE.
NO ONE'S GOING TO CAMPAIGNED TO GET IT ALL ON TAXES BUT I'M JUST PLAYING FOR THE WORK.
>> IT'S A VALID DEBATE BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THERE WOULD BE, I'D RATHER HAVE MY PROPERTY TAX.
I DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT HIGHER RATE.
OTHER PEOPLE, THEY'D RATHER HAVE IT THERE BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY CAN MANAGE IT THERE. CERTAINLY GOING TO BE A SPLIT.
PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, PROBABLY 50/50.
>> WE LIKE TO TAKE A 15-MINUTE SHOWER EVERY DAY WHEN YOU REALIZE IT'S GOING TO COST YOU A LOT MORE MONEY, YOU BACK OFF TO JUST GETTING WET.
[INAUDIBLE] THIS NUMBER ALSO POTENTIALLY INCLUDE THE [INAUDIBLE] RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING DOWN OVER THE NEXT YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS.
THAT COULD BE A FEW ADDITIONAL METERING WITH GROWTH?
>> YEAH. WE'VE GOT THAT BETTER.
>> I MEAN, EVERY CALL IT THAT WE THINK THAT GROWTH ISN'T HERE OF 250,000 HOUSES NEXT YEAR ENDED HIS GRUBBY.
IT'S A FIVE-YEAR PROJECTION THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING BUT THE BIG 60 MILLION WE THINK WE ARE 70 MILLION WE'RE GOING TO NEED FROM THE WATER BOARD AT SOME POINT.
IF WE PICK ALL THE LINES ALL THE WAYS, ONE WAY IS SO MUCH.
>> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WATER AND SEWER RATE FOR OUT-OF-TOWN PEOPLE VERSUS IN TOWN? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
>> 1217. THAT'S ON WHAT PAGE? [NOISE]
>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN LIKE [OVERLAPPING]?
>> IT'S THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS REPORT.
THIS IS A LARGE [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S A PRODUCT DOLLAR DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN IN AND OUT RESIDENTS.
>> TO THE BASE SHOT, THE MINIMUM CHANNEL.
THERE'S ALSO A RATE DIFFERENCE IF THEY BOUGHT 2-10,000 GALLONS.
IT'S A DOLLAR WORTH 60 DIFFERENCE.
>> WHEN ROSE GREEN, ONE BIG METER OR INDIVIDUAL METERS?
>> BUT ALSO IF YOU DO IT OFF A PROPERTY TAX OR IF I'M WRONG, YOU'RE ONLY GETTING PEOPLE IN THE CITY, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THIS OUTSIDE.
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE OUTSIDE, THEY'RE NOT PAYING PROPERTY TAX.
THAT'S THE OTHER REASON TO DO IT HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CHARGE MORE TO THE OUTSIDE PEOPLE, THEY'RE NOT PAYING PROPERTY TAX. THEY SHOULD PAY A LITTLE MORE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] JUST BEING GREEDY, I KNOW [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
>> YOU ALL ARE KILLING ME. [LAUGHTER].
>> WHAT IF THE MEDIA CALLS? [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
>> THEY HAD ONE LESS TRIP TO WATERBURY.
>> I DISAGREE IN ONE ASPECT TO WHAT YOU SAID.
YOU TOLD MY INFLATION 12 PERCENT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
BUT HERE'S MY ISSUE AND THIS IS FROM A PRIVATE SIDE IN WHAT I GO THROUGH IS, AS YOU RAISE YOUR REVENUES, YOU HAVE A FIXED COST LEVEL.
SO IF I'M ABSORBING MORE COST AS I CLIMB, MY FIXED COST STAYS THE SAME.
AT SOME POINT, I SHOULD SEE HIGHER MARGINS.
IN OUR WORLD HERE, AS WE CONTINUE TO ADD MORE HOUSES, THE BWA RATE HAS NOT CHANGED.
[NOISE] THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL BIGGEST POINT OF OUR COST HERE, IS THE BWA RATE.
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THE THOUGHT WAS ALWAYS THE MORE HOUSES WE ADD AND MORE PEOPLE BUYING TO COVERING THAT BWA RATE AND THE EXTRA MONEY WOULD HAVE TO SPEND ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE.>> WE PASS THAT ALONG EVERY YEAR.
>> I THINK EVENTUALLY WE WILL SEE THAT.
BUT I THINK THEY WERE FIVE YEARS, SEVEN YEARS FROM THAT.
WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE THE SYSTEM HASN'T BEEN MAINTAINED FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS BUT SOME SAY 20,30 YEARS.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THOSE FIXED COSTS BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN SPENDING THAT MONEY.
WHEN THE SYSTEM IS FAILING, WHICH IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO FIX NOW, THAT IS TO FIX IT PROPERLY.
>> RIGHT. WE'VE GOT HIGHER COST THAN WE NEED BECAUSE WE'RE CAUSING IT BY NOT FIXING THE SYSTEM CORRECTLY.
COSTS ARE GOING UP AS YOU'RE GOING UP.
I THINK EVENTUALLY FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, WE'LL SEE THAT.
THEN IF WE HAVE MORE REVENUE AT SOME POINT, THEN WE'LL REDUCE THE RATE.
>> APPARENTLY, THEY STOP GOING UP.
>> WELL, WE GOT TO GET THERE FROM THIS [INAUDIBLE].
>> LIKE JASON SAID, THE COST OF GOODS HAS GONE UP.
>> EVERY YEAR AND SO WE HAVE AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THAT IN OUR OVERALL SCHEME OF THE BUDGET.
SO WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THIS BY INFLATION.
WE JUST DID THIS WHOLE STUDY AND WE'RE IN PHASE 3, AND SO THAT'S ADDED TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS BUT WE HAVEN'T AGAIN.
>> WE'VE GOT A WELL-MAINTAINED SYSTEM THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY COSTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SPENT YET, THAT HAS CAUSED MORE APPARENT MAINTENANCE ALL THE TIME.
IT WOULD BE IF WE JUST FIXED RIGHT.
>> BUT IT'S NOT TRUE TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY REVENUE.
THE GAP BETWEEN THE REQUIRED EXPENDITURES AND THE REVENUE, WE HAVE IT STILL GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER, SO STOP.
IT'S NOT HAPPENING THAT WAY YET.
BUT I THINK IT WILL, SOMEWHERE IN ABOUT SEVEN YEAR RANGE FROM NOW.
BUT IT WILL NOT. THE SYSTEM COULD FAIL BEFORE WE GET TO VALUES IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING.
>> I'M GOING TO GO TO MY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
>> THE LAST COMMENT YOU MADE IN YOUR CRITICISM THAT YOU GIVE IT TO ME, THE GAP IS WIDENING.
>> THE GAP IS WIDENING. IT'S NOT GOOD.
IF WE HAVE MORE REVENUE THAN REQUIRED, THEN IT WOULD BECOME THIS WAY, BUT IT'S NOT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THAT ARE RUNNING THE REVENUE.
>> HERE'S MY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THEORY.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE AND AGGRESSIVE ABOUT GETTING COMMERCIAL INDUSTRY.
BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO PAY THE HIGHER RATE, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE HIGHER VOLUMES OF WATER.
SO IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, IF WE RECRUIT, AGAIN, NOT A PICKLE FACTORY BECAUSE IT USES A LOT OF WATER BUT DISTRIBUTION OR SOMETHING ELSE, THE TAX VALUE IS GOING TO GO UP.
THE AMOUNT OF WATER USAGE IS GOING TO GO UP AT A HIGHER RATE BECAUSE REALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUMPING OUTSIDE THE CITY ANYWAYS.
>> HIGHER USE, HIGHER VOLUME, HIGHER RATES BEING OUTSIDE THE CITY, THAT'S GOING TO HELP US SUPPLEMENT LIKE YOU SAID.
CLOSE THE GAP PLUS LOOK AT THE RESIDENCE THEN SAY, NOW WE CAN REDUCE THE RATE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THREE MAJOR PROJECTS GOING ON THAT'LL HELP MITIGATE THAT.
IF WE KEEP GOING TO RESIDENTIAL WAY, YOU COULD PROBABLY PAY OUT SOME NUMBER AND WE KEEP SAYING WE DON'T WANT MORE BIGGER CITY AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET IN A LARGER AMOUNT TO MITIGATE THE WATER BILL.
>> WE NEED COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS GROWTH SO THAT WOULD TAKE LESS TO TAKE BURNING OFF THE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET IT FROM DIFFERENT SOURCE.
>> WE STAY IN LEVEL BUT EVERYTHING'S GOING UP. WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
IT WAS $38,000 LAST YEAR AND THEN JUMPED TO 42 JUST OVER A YEAR.
THE MAINTENANCE PART HAS GONE UP.
>> SO JEFF, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? [NOISE]
>> GIVE THOSE PEOPLE [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> I GET ALL OF YOUR [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
>> MY COLLEGE ROOMMATE IS BEST FRIEND [INAUDIBLE]. THEY WERE QUIET.
>> HE WAS MY ROOMMATE. HI, MY NAME IS BOB.
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A LITTLE PUPPY FELL IN THE TANK AND IT WAS SO IN TO SAVE IT.NOW I GO, WHAT? HE GOES, "STAY IN THE HOSPITAL." [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE ASKED HER ABOUT PERCENT INCREASE IN MOST OF THE LAND ITEMS BECAUSE OF
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STOPPED INCREASES ON JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW [INAUDIBLE] BUDGET.
BEFORE I GET IN A FIELD BUDGET ON PD, WHERE IS OUR PERCENTAGE? ARE MISCELLANEOUS ON OUR CAPITAL?
>> BODY CAMERAS AND [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE BODY CAMERAS, I BROUGHT THIS IN FOR SHOW AND TELL.
THIS IS A WATCH GUARD CAMERA AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
I TURNED THIS ONE ON AT ONE O'CLOCK.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BATTERY IS ALREADY GOING DOWN AND IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN USED.
THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO GET US IN THE END WITH THE GEORGE FLOYD ACT COMING THROUGH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE BODY CAMERAS THAT ARE FUNCTIONING.
THE WATCH GUARD CAMERA, I HAVE BID FOR THOSE.
WITH THAT, IT'S ABOUT $60,000 WITH THE SERVER.
I'VE TALKED [INAUDIBLE] OVER TO THE DA OFFICE AS WELL AND WHAT HE'S DOING, MOST OF THE COUNTY HAS WATCHGUARD.
>> HE SAID WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IN THE FUTURE, TRYING TO BRING HIS DEPARTMENT UP, IS THE PAY FOR THE GUARD SERVICE, SO THAT IF THE DA OFFICE DECIDES THEY WANT A VIDEO, THEN PULL IT DOWN FROM THE CLOUD AND THEY'LL HAVE THAT VIDEO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT FOR US TO DOWNLOAD THESE THINGS.
IF YOU RIDE TO SEE THE OFFICERS TODAY AND RIDE WITH THEM, THEY HAVE TO PLUG THESE THINGS IN THE CAR IN ORDER TO GET THEM TO GO.
BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN WE ARE OUT THERE AND WE STAY ON VIDEO THAT ARE VIDEO CAMERAS NOW A LOT OF EXAMS IN THAT CRITICAL MOMENT, AND I'M NOT TELLING YOU IF IT IS, WHEN IT IS, AND WE SAY THAT BODY CAMERAS NOW.
TAKE THAT IS JUST GOING TO TAKE THEIR WORD, TRYING TO COVER SOMETHING UP.
THESE CAMERAS HAVE INTERCHANGEABLE BATTERIES.
WE CAN TAKE THE BATTERY OUT AND THEY'LL LAST A WHOLE LOT LONGER.
IT'LL LAST A WHOLE LOT LONGER.
MOST OF THEM [INAUDIBLE], BUT THE NEW ONES, YOU CAN TAKE THE BATTERY OFF, PUT A BATTERY IN, SO YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER BATTERY THERE.
SO OFF IS TO BE COVERED ALL THE TIME.
NOW WE HAVE OFFICERS IN THE CITY.
>> THESE ARE ALSO RECHARGEABLE AS WELL.
>> ARE THEY TIED TOGETHER WITH YOUR IN-CAR VIDEO AND YOUR BACKSEAT VIDEO AND ALL THAT?
>> AT THIS POINT THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE WATCHGUARD.
WITH AFFORDABLE UNITS WHICH ARE APPROVED AND BY THE WAY, THEY ARE PHYSICALLY AT THE LOCATION UPSTAIRS.
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE INTERCONNECTED.
>> YOU CAN WATCH ALL THREE ANGLES.
YOU CAN WATCH BODY CAMERA OF THE [INAUDIBLE].
THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT COLORS.
THERE'S A NARROW AND WIDE PANORAMIC VIEW, AND THERE'S A BACKSEAT, WHICH SOMETIMES BE [INAUDIBLE].
>> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S 60,000, I LIFTED OUTFITTING ALL OF THE GUARDS FROM INTERNAL CAMERAS AND BODY CAMERAS.
>> IS THAT OKAY? WHAT DO WE NEED THE MOST? THE BODY CAMERAS.
SO WE CAN TAKE AT BODY CAMERAS AND I TAKE IT DOWN TO 60,000, [INAUDIBLE] AND FOR THE CAMERAS AND THEN SO MUCH, BUT THE REST OF IT IT'S FOR THE SERVICE.
>> NOW, WITH THE VIDEO, DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY UPLOAD TO THE SERVER, DO THEY PHYSICALLY HAVE TO GO TO THE STATION UPLOADED AT THEIR DESK, OR WHATEVER?
>> RIGHT NOW WITH THESE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT IN AT THE DOCTOR'S STATION, THEN YOU HAVE TO DOWNLOAD [INAUDIBLE].
WITH THESE, YOU DON'T DOWNLOAD IT, EITHER IN THE INTERNET, AND IT'S SECURE.
>> NOW, YOU CAN BUY EXTRA BATTERIES, A POWERFUL [INAUDIBLE]?
>> YOU CAN BUY EXTRA BATTERIES FOR IT AND GET THEM PUT IN.
THESE ALSO WILL SECURE BETTER.
IF YOU GET IN A SCUFFLE WITH SOMEBODY, THIS FALLS OUT.
THESE, IF YOU LOOK AT THEM, THEY HAVE A LITTLE PEN IN THERE, ARE NOW SECURE TO YOUR UNIFORM.
IT'S GOING TO COME OFF OF A PART OF THE SHIRTS BECAUSE THEY COME OFF WITH IT.
NOT SAYING IT WON'T, BUT IF IT DOES,
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THAT'S GOING TO COME OFF, THE SHIRT IS GOING TO COME OFF WITH IT.>> CLARIFICATION. DO YOU HAVE THESE?
>> YOU'LL REPLACE THEM WITH THOSE.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE NEW?
>> NO, SIR. WE WILL WITH THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> BUT THAT 60,000 IS NOT INCLUDING THOSE FOR.
>> THAT'S GETTING EVERY OFFICER ANYTHING ELSE, AND THEY BUY A CAMERA.
>> A COUPLE OF SPARES, JUST WARNING.
>> IF YOU WANT TO THROW A COUPLE OF SPARES IN THERE, WELL.
>> EVERY OFFICER ARE PUTTING THEIR ID AS WELL.
>> OKAY, WHAT IS THE ID? [BACKGROUND]
>> BECAUSE THEY DO GO OUT AS WELL, BUT.
>> ALSO EXPERIMENT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ANIMAL CONTROL.
>> TO ADD TO THAT, WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THIS IS PASS THEM ON TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, PASS THEM ON TO ANIMAL CONTROL.
I'M [INAUDIBLE], AND SO THIS CODE [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] WE CAN GO BACK AND REVIEW AND [INAUDIBLE].
>> A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WENT IN WITH A BED CAMERA ON HIS PARTNER.
PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, "YEAH, IT'S ALL RIGHT." [LAUGHTER]
>> [LAUGHTER] YOUR GOVERNMENT NOT HAVING ANY BULLET LEFT BECAUSE HE GOT A GUN.
>> BUT THEY NEED THAT AS MUCH BECAUSE YOU GET SAME THING.
I TOLD THEM WHATEVER AND YOU GOT NO DOCUMENTATION.
>> WE ARE NOT ADVOCATING [INAUDIBLE] A DEAD CAMERA.
>> WELL, A LOT OF TIMES, WE DO WARE THE CAMERAS AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
>> YOUR PAMPHLET OR ALLMAN DON'T KNOW THAT.
>> A LOT OF TIMES WE DO WARE THE CAMERA AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IN.
BUT THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING NOW TO PLEASE EXPAND EACH BOARD IN THE END $50,000 IS A VERY SMALL INVESTMENT.
>> RIGHT NOW, IT'S PART OF THE 960.
>> AS HIGH LIABILITY [INAUDIBLE] THE PD MIGHT BE.
>> IT'S HUGE. IT'S 50,000, THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE WHEN YOU PUT BACK.
>> YEAH, I'D RATHER PUT THAT BACK AND TAKE MEDIUM LINK BETWEEN THE HOLOGRAPH.
>> I AGREE BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE COMPLETE BOTH SIDES OF THAT.
IS YOU COMBINE TO THAT THEY WENT OFF BUT THE CITY WORKERS EDGING RIGHT AWAY. [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A NOTE. LET'S GET THROUGH THE WHILE BUNCH OF THING AND IT CAN COME BY AND TALK SOMEWHERE ELSE OR WHEREVER.
>> ALL RIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT COMPENSATION MONEY OR CORE TECHNOLOGY OR ANYTHING ELSE WHERE YOU COULD PULL THAT PROMPT?
WE BOUGHT A FINGERPRINT MACHINE, COMPUTATION MONEY, DRUG CONFISCATION MONEY, THE CORE TECHNOLOGY MONEY IS NOT ENOUGH IN THERE.
SO THE FAVORITE MACHINE, THE COMPANY THAT WE HAD, WENT OUT OF BUSINESS, SO IT'S NO LONGER SUPPORTED.
WE USED ALMOST $18,000 TO BUY THE BATTERY.
WE ARE NOT IN THE TASK FORCE AT THIS POINT, BUT WE MADE IT IN COMMUNICATION WITH OUR REORGANIZATION, WITH THE COUNTY AND TRYING TO GET BACK IN THERE.
THE LAST TWO YEARS AT LEAST WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY VALUE, THERE'S NOTHING COMING IN.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IS WHAT WE HAVE.
>> CAN WE BRING THE COUNCIL JUST FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT THING?
>> JUST PUT IT BEFORE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND SAY, "HEY, WE NEED THESE CAMERAS." THEY BURN OUT UPON EFFORT THAN WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BUILD THE NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE MONEY OUT UP UNBALANCED, IF WE TAKE IT OUT NOW, THEN IT'S FUN, AND WE CAN JUST BENEFICIARY INSTEAD OF NEXT YEAR.
IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETIMES IT WOULD HELP US KEEP PRIORITY.
>> I HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEW, IT HAS BEEN A VILIFYING, IT'S GOING TO BE MANDATING?
>> YES. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SORRY, IS UNDER BILL.
>> SO HEADS THE STATE LEGISLATION IS BAD LATELY SESSION.
>> IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE IT CONCERNS ME.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOSS OF BATTERY,
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HOUR AND IN FACT, BE FILMING AT ALL TIME?>> CATALOG BECAUSE THERE MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VERBIAGE SAYS, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
IT USED TO BE A LITTLE MORE DISCRETION AND HOW THEY TAKE IT MORE TO A MANDATORY ELECTION THERE.
>> IT DOES TELL YOU WHEN IT'S ON, WHEN IT CAN'T BE OFF.
WHEN YOU'RE AT THE SCENE AND THERE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT IF YOU DO TURN THE CAMERA OFF AND THESE GIVE YOU DISCRETIONARY AS THE WAY TO TURN IT OUT.
BUT YEAH, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHEN THE CAMERA'S GOING TO BE ON AND WHEN THE CAMERA'S GOING TO BE OFF.
>> YEAH, AND IF YOU RUN AROUND AND YOU GOT TO PLUG IT IN AND RECHARGE IT.
>> RECHARGING NOW AND EVERY TIME. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE OTHER ITEM IS NOT IN, BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT AS A SALE BRIGHT PHONE DOWN AND THAT IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, WHEN WE INVESTIGATE CRIMES, THAT PHONE HOLDS A WHOLE LOT OF EVIDENCE.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE'VE TAKEN OUR PHONES TO PAIR LENGTH BUT WE'RE GETTING IN LINE, PAIR LENGTH TAKEN PRIORITY.
WE'VE TALKED WITH SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ONE.
WE JUST TALKED TO HIM LAST WEEK ABOUT A NEW SERVICE, THAT SAME THING.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO GET PUTTING LINES, THEIR CASE IS GOING TO TAKE PRIORITY.
>> I KNOW OPTIMUM ALLEN COUNTY, I BELIEVE JACK HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK CLUE, THEY MAY HAVE THEIR KNOBS ARE NOT HELD RIGHT WITH THAT.
CONSIDERED THE GOLD STANDARD OF CELL PHONE DOWNLOAD.
>> THAT'S THE MUTE THOUGH, IF THEY HAD AN APPLE?
>> NO, THEY'RE DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY, ANOTHER APPLICATION THAT YOU MADE A GREAT STROKE, I BELIEVE, IS WHAT THEY USE TO BREAK DOWN THE TIE, TO OBTAIN AND SEND THEM TO THE INTEGRATION OF LABORATORY AROUND. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THOUGHT THE APPLE WAS USED BECAUSE THAT THE ONE THAT USES THE TECHNOLOGY.
>> THEY WON'T KEEP RUNNING AND RUN DIGITS, OVER AND OVER. IT CAN TAKE A YEAR.
>> THAT'S $40,000, HOWEVER, I HAVE TAUGHT AS WELL AND HE HAS AGREED TO PAY FOR HALF, IF YOU ALL AGREE TO PAY FOR THE OTHER HALF SO THAT ALLOWS HIS INVESTIGATORS TO COME OVER AND USE THAT AT OUR LOCATION, WE'RE CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE COUNTY WHERE THE COUNTY SEAT, THE PD'S OFFICE IS HERE.
INVESTIGATORS CAN BE TRAINED IN A DEPARTMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THEM, SMALLER DEPARTMENT THAT NEED THAT EVIDENCE, CAN COME TO THE PD AS WELL AND WE'LL BE MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP THEM OUT, WHATEVER TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WANTS US TO DO.
HE SAID THAT, DID NOT SPLIT IN HALF BUT IT'S NOT ON THE TABLE. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THIS LAST APPARATUS? WHAT DOES IT DO?
>> IT TAKES YOUR PHONE AND IT DUMPS IT BASICALLY.
IT TAKES MESSAGES, PICTURES, PHONE CALLS OUT OF IT.
>> YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO GET A SEARCH WARRANT FOR THAT.
>> A SUSPECT'S PHONE, NOT JUST YOUR PHONE.
>> IT IS NOT THAT BIG. [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S A PART OF THE COPY OF YOUR PHONE.
[NOISE] BUT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SEND EVERYTHING FROM YOUR TEXT MESSAGES TO YOUR APPS, TO YOUR WHATEVER-
>> PICTURES. SOMETIMES EVEN DELETED IT WILL RECALL SEARCH, WHATEVER YOU SEARCH.
YOU CAN FIND OUT HOW I KILLED SOMEBODY, IF YOU SEARCH, YOU'LL FIND IT.
>> PEOPLE, THE CROOKS AREN'T SMARTEST FOLKS IN THE WORLD, THAT'S WHY THEY GET CAUGHT.
WE CAUGHT AN ARMED ROBBER THAT WAY.
[NOISE] HE TOOK A PICTURE OF HIMSELF WITH THE MONEY AND A GUN, SAYING HE JUST ROBBED A STORE.
SO WE TOOK THAT INFORMATION, OF COURSE, YOU HAD TO GET HIS PHONE.
MEN TOOK THAT INFORMATION. WE GOT THE CASE WON.
SO IT HELPS TO GUIDE THE DA'S OFFICE AS WELL.
THAT'S ONLY 20,000 IF YOU-ALL PUT THAT BACK IN.
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>> WHAT MAKES YOU SAY- [OVERLAPPING].
>> IF YOU SHOULD SEE A REWARD, [OVERLAPPING].
>> PUSH IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. [NOISE].
>> I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THAT.
YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID, "OKAY, WE'VE GOT 500,000 BUT" [OVERLAPPING].
>> I DID. I SAID 243 AT FIRST.
>> [OVERLAPPING] FOR EXAMPLE, JOHN WAS HAVING A HEART ATTACK LOOKING AT HIS NUMBERS.
>> RIGHT, THAT'S WHY HE WAS LOOKING UP THERE.
>> DAVID, YOU WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE, SO LAST YEAR WE HIRED A JAILER, 1845 IF YOU WEREN'T GIVEN AN UPDATE ON THAT, AND THEN WHERE WE'RE ON STAFFING AND IF YOU CHANGED THE NUMBER OF FOLKS ON A SHIFT.
>> CORRECT. SO IN A REORGANIZATION, THAT WOULD [BACKGROUND] THE REASON I'M NOT ASKING FOR [INAUDIBLE] IS WE GOT RID OF MOTORS, WE GOT RID OF THE CANINE THEY CAN GET RID OF.
WE ADVERTISED FOR IT INSIDE AND OUT.
YOU GOT TO REMEMBER CANINE WHEN HE ASKED TO TAKE DOWN THAT RESPONSIBILITY IT'S NOT EASY ON HOMES.
TAKE THE DOG HOME IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY.
SO A LOT OF [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE ARE, A LOT YOUNGER.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE REORGANIZATION, WE'VE TAKEN THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, INVESTIGATOR THAT'S NO LONGER WITH US, WE TOOK THAT AND WE'VE ADDED THAT TO INVESTIGATIONS.
OUR INVESTIGATION TEAM, THE NUMBERS USED BEFORE THAT.
WE'VE ALSO TAKEN THAT AND TAKEN THE WALK-IN COMPLAINANTS THAT COME IN, THE DETECTIVES NOW HANDLE THAT, KEEPS [INAUDIBLE] OUT ON THE STREET.
SO THE DETECTIVES ARE TAKING THE EXCESS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INVESTIGATORS.
THE JAGGER, THE JAGGER HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS.
WE GOT HER NOW WORK IN 410 THAT OFFICER CAN COME IN, BASICALLY HANDOUT THE PRISONER.
SHE TAKES AND PRINTS AND BOOKS THEM IN AND DOES ALL THAT WORK WHILE THE OFFICER GOES AND TAKES CARE OF WHATEVER PAPERWORK THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF, AND GET BACK OUT ON THE STREET THAT MUCH QUICKER.
SO WE'RE NOW UP TO WHERE WE HAVE ONE THAT ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT LAST WEEK.
[INAUDIBLE] BUT WE ONLY NEED ONE OTHER OPTION. NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO.
WE HAVE A BOARD COMING UP THIS WEEK, BUT THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US SIX PEOPLE ON THE STREET AT A TIME BEFORE WE HAD FIVE.
WITH THE REORGANIZATION, EVEN ADDING THAT ONE INTO DETECTIVE DIVISION WE'LL STILL HAVE SIX FOLKS ON THE STREET.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING WITH THOSE AFTER.
OBVIOUSLY, TO GET HERE WILL BE EVALUATED NEXT YEAR BUT THAT'S SIX FOLKS ON THE STREETS.
>> YOUR CAPTAIN, I MEAN YOUR SERGEANT, YOUR LIEUTENANT, YOUR CORPORAL, AND THEN THREE?
>> ON THE STREET, WE JUST ADDED ONE EXTRA TO TWO CID.
SO ON THE STREET WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THE MOTORS, WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THE CANINES, THERE'S THREE EXTRA OFFICERS.
SO WE ADDED THOSE TWO AND THAT LEAVES US, SIX PEOPLE, I'LL SHARE THOSE IN MATH.
I'M LOOKING AT THE MATH AVENUE, IT DOESN'T ADD UP.
WE ALREADY HAD FIVE, SO THREE AND THEN FOUR, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT PUT SOMEBODY INTO THE NARCOTICS TASK FORCE AGAIN.
ONCE WE HIRE FOLKS, WE ARE ONLY DOWN ONE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A LOT BETTER THAN IN MOST FARMS AROUND HERE.
HOPEFULLY, WE'LL GET THAT FILLED THIS WEEK, BUT THEN WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE, BUT WE WILL HAVE SIX.
>> ONCE YOU HAVE ONE SHIFT THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE]
>> YOU GOT A PRETTY YOUNG DEPARTMENT.
>> VERY, VERY YOUNG DEPARTMENT.
>> ISN'T THAT KIND OF NORM, THOUGH?
>> OUR AVERAGE EXPERIENCE IS THREE YEARS.
>> THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE AREAS?
>> BUT HERE IS OUR POSITION. [NOISE].
>> WELL, I HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED- [OVERLAPPING] YEAH, WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED MUCH TURNOVER.
HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE A WAITING LIST HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH.
>> SO WE'RE DOWN FOUR PEOPLE LAST YEAR.
>> THEN WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF DISPATCHERS TURNOVER, BUT WE HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF CANDIDATES FOR THAT.
>> TWO YEARS WITH APD OR TWO YEARS?
>> TWO YEARS AVERAGE EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU PUT THEM IN WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
>> YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN, LIKE THE THREE WE JUST HIRED? BRAND NEW, THEY HAD NO EXPERIENCE.
ONE GIRL HAD EIGHT MONTHS EXPERIENCE THIS WEEK.
>> WHEN YOU THROW THAT ZERO IN THERE WITH ALL THAT OTHER EXPERIENCE AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE.
WE HAD THOSE THREE WHICH WE PICKED TO HIRE THIS OTHER ONE.
SO ONE JUST GOT OFF WITH TRAINING.
PATRICE JAMMER. SHE'S OUT ON THE STREET NOW.
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BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIX PEOPLE ON THE STREET.DON, I KNOW YOU'RE A NUMBERS MAN BUT IT'S ALL THERE.
>> YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE THREE VEHICLES?
>> YES. YOU ALL APPROVED THE ENTERPRISE THREE VEHICLES HERE IN COUNCIL COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
THOSE WILL HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE] IN THEM.
ALL THE LATEST RADIO STUFF IN THERE.
SO WE HAVE TO REPLACE FOUR OF OUR VERY, VERY AGING FLEET, WE'LL TAKE THAT FLEET AND WE'LL AUCTION THOSE OFF AND GET THEM OUT OF FLEET.
WHICH WILL HELP US WITH OUR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET.
I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY MORE IN REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET AT ALL BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THOSE FOUR VEHICLES FROM ENTERPRISE.
THOSE WOULD BE NEW AND THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO PAY ON THOSE ARE TIRES AND THEIR BRAKES.
SO THE REST OF THAT IS COVERED.
BUT WE STILL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE REST OF THE FLEET THAT WE HAVE.
>> CAN WE PUT THE EQUIPMENT IN THE LEASE?
>> ALL THE EQUIPMENT, EVERYTHING IS IN THE LEASE IN THE PRICE OF THE CAR.
SO IF YOU SHOULD SEE THOSE OUT HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO EVERYBODY IS EXCITED TO HAVE THOSE.
>> SAME STRAPPING AND ALL THAT, RIGHT?
>> WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE CHANGES OF STRAPPING UP A LITTLE BIT.
IF YOU ALL HAVE SUGGESTIONS, WE WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT.
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO LOOK LIKE FLAT AND CENTRALIZED.
YEAH. I DON'T CARE IF YOU CHANGED IT.
>> IT DOESN'T COST ANY MORE MONEY TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT ANYWAY.
SO WHEN EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT THOSE NEW CARS, THEY LOOK NICE AND PRETTY WITH ALL THAT.
>> ARE THEY GOING TO BE COOL LIKE THE FIRE TRUCKS?
>> I KNOW. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> DOWN THERE. WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO BEAT THE FIRE TRUCK. [LAUGHTER].
>> I'VE NEVER SEEN A POLICE CAR WITH FLAMES.
>> YOU PULL UP A FIRE ENGINE AND A POLICE CAR AND AN AMBULANCE.
EVERYBODY RUNS TO THE FIRE TRUCK.
THOSE SHOULD BE OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
>> [INAUDIBLE] RUN TO GET INTO A POLICE CAR [LAUGHTER].
>> WE OPENED THE BACK DOOR. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> HOW LONG WILL WE HAVE THAT IN TIME? I THINK YOU REMEMBER.
>> IT'S PROBABLY BEEN ABOUT 10 YEARS.
>> I'LL EXPLAIN MY DEAR MIKEY.
>> IF YOU'VE GOT SUGGESTIONS, WE'RE STARTING TO PUT IT DOWN THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE PD BUDGET? PRETTY MUCH. EVERYTHING IN THERE IS ABOUT FIVE PERCENT MORE [OVERLAPPING].
>> LET'S MOVE TO ANIMAL CONTROL.
>> ANIMAL CONTROL. [NOISE] THAT ONE HAS A PRETTY FIRM BID.
>> A FEW ARE IN ORDER [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE]
>> HE'S NOW LIEUTENANT MITCHELL.
>> WELL, LIEUTENANT MITCHELL IS NOT [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE HAVEN'T JUST UPDATED. THAT JUST HAPPENED LIKE MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO, A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
>> I KNEW I WAS MISSING SOMEBODY.
I WAS LIKE [LAUGHTER] WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE? [LAUGHTER]
>> LAUGH ALL YOU WANT. YOU ALL COME LOOKING TO ME WHENEVER [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
>> ON ANIMAL SERVICES, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THERE ON PERSONNEL IS WHERE YOU WANT TO TAKE THOSE TWO PART-TIME EMPLOYEES WHICH WE CAN NEVER KEEP ON PART-TIME, ESPECIALLY AFTER IT COULD GO IN AND OUT, IN AND OUT, AND TAKE IT AND PUT IT IN [INAUDIBLE] ONE FULL TIME POSITION.
THAT WOULD GIVE US THREE FULL TIME ANIMAL SERVICES FOLKS.
SO IF SOMEBODY CAN STAY AT THE SHELTER AT ALL TIMES, RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE OUT IN THE FIELD.
MEGAN ACTUALLY CALLED YESTERDAY BECAUSE SHE WAS LOOKING FOR A DOG, BUT SHE WENT THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES, THERE'S NOBODY THERE.
BUT ANYTIME THAT HAPPENS THEY CAN CALL PD AND WE CAN CALL THEM ON RADIO AND GET THEM THERE.
BUT IF THEY ALL APPROVE THEIR FULL-TIME POSITION, THEN SOMEBODY SHOULD BE THERE MOST OF THE DAY, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT [INAUDIBLE] LOCALS OF THAT POSITION.
OVER TIME FOR [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE] TO PD,
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BUT OVER TIME, WE'RE REQUESTING $10,000.REMEMBER, WE'RE SERVICED IN RICHWOOD AS WELL, SO THEY CALL OUT AT NIGHT AND THEY STILL HAD TO COME IN ON THE WEEKENDS AND FEED AND WATER THEIR ANIMALS IN [INAUDIBLE]
>> IS RICHMAN PAYING US FOR OVER TIME?
>> I WAS ABOUT FETCH. SOUNDS LIKE RICHMAN'S BILL SNAPPED ALL THAT.
>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS [INAUDIBLE] MOUTH, BUT SHE WAS AT RICHWOOD, AND WHENEVER WE DID THAT CONTRACT, SHE SAID THAT THEY EXPECT TO DOUBLE THAT, AND [INAUDIBLE]
>> I THINK WE NEED TO RE-LOOK AT THAT.
>> WE NEED TO RE-LOOK AT THAT.
>> ANGLETON RESIDENCE DESERVES THE SERVICE.
IF SOMEONE ELSE IS GETTING THE SERVICE, CLEARLY IT SHOULDN'T COST THE CITY RESIDENCE.
>> I BELIEVE THEY'RE PAYING ENOUGH.
>> AGAIN, IF FOR EXAMPLE OVERTIME IS LIMITED, THAT SHOULD BE FOR ANGLETON FOLKS ONLY AND THEY SHOULDN'T GET OVERTIME CALL, UNLESS THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT, RIGHT?
>> COME BACK TO ME AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> THE UNIFORMS AND APPAREL HASN'T GONE [INAUDIBLE] BUT THEY WANT TO OUTFIT ALL THE STAFF.
JUST ABOUT $4,000 FOR THE YEAR FOR ALL OF THEM.
>> IT'S 1,000 DOLLAR INCREASE.
>> ANY OF IT STILL IN? ANY OF IT CUT?
>> EVERYTHING IS IN [OVERLAPPING] ALL OF THIS IS IN IN ANIMAL SERVICES.
SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT THAT HAS GONE UP AS WELL, BEING $3,600 A YEAR BECAUSE OF THE FERAL CATS SPAYED AND NEUTERED.
ALL THE FERAL CATS BEFORE THEY ARE RELEASED ARE SPAYED AND NEUTERED IF WE GET THEM IN THE SHELTER, AND THEY ARE RELEASED TO CAT POUNDS.
IN THE CITY, WE HAVE ABOVE FIVE CATS PER MONTH, $60 A CAT, WHICH TOTALS ABOUT $11,600, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT INCREASE IN THE SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT.
[INAUDIBLE] SUPPLY, SAME THING, THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE.
FOR MOST MATERIALS, WE ARE ASKING FOR $2,100 SO WE CAN TRY TO PROMOTE THESE ANIMALS AND GET THEM OUT ADOPTED.
OUR GIRLS OVER THERE, OUR WORKERS AT THE SHELTER DID A TREMENDOUS JOB ON [INAUDIBLE] RESCUES [INAUDIBLE] THAT LATELY, BUT WE'VE BEEN SELECTED BY A RESCUE GROUP THAT PUT US IN WITH THEM TO HAVE THIS GUY COME DOWN JULY 20TH, AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FUNDRAISER.
I SAY SILLY STUFF, BUT HE'S PRETTY FAMOUS ON FACEBOOK AND HE HAS A HALLMARK TV SHOW.
BUT HE'S DOING A 50 NATION TOUR, AND FOR ANGLETON TO BE SELECTED OUT OF ALL THESE [INAUDIBLE]
>> ARE YOU ANOTHER OFFICER ON SOME KIND OF FOREIGN FILM SHOW? [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE GOING TO RUSSIA, OR UKRAINE [LAUGHTER].
>> YOU'RE BRINGING ME ALONG WITH YOU.
>> I DON'T KNOW. I'LL GO TO RUSSIA.
[LAUGHTER] VETERINARY SERVICES, WE'RE INCREASING THAT TO $18,000 A YEAR FROM 12,000, BECAUSE WE NEED DR. BECKER.
DR. BECKER IS STILL GIVING US A PRETTY GOOD DEAL.
WE STILL HAVE FOLKS THAT WITH ANIMAL SERVICES, THEY WILL GO OVER AND GET THEIR CAT SPAYED AND NEUTERED.
WHATEVER THEY DO WITH THEIR CAT OVER AT DR. BECKER'S, AND THEY'LL SAY, ''HERE'S AN EXTRA 100 FOR ANIMAL CONTROL.'' A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE GET THEIR STATEMENT, WE'LL HAVE A NEGATIVE BALANCE, BUT WE CAN'T RELY ON THOSE DONATIONS, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE THERE.
THEIR SUPPLIES ARE THE SAME; FUEL, EQUIPMENT.
>> THEY DID GET A NEW ENTERPRISE DRAFT [INAUDIBLE] BUT THEY GOT A NEW ENTERPRISE DRAFT. THANK YOU ALL.
WE GOT THAT IN WITH THE LAST WEEK DRAFTS.
THEY WEREN'T USING OUR NARCOTICS RENTAL [LAUGHTER] OH MY GOD, IT STINKS NOW.
>> I HEAD ABOUT THAT [LAUGHTER]
>> IT'S CLEANED UP AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK AND TRADE IT OUT FOR ANOTHER VEHICLE, YOU'RE PRETTY QUICK.
BUT THAT WAS JUST AN INNOVATIVE WAY TO TRY TO GET THEM SOMETHING, BECAUSE THE OTHER TRUCK WAS DOWN, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A NARCOTIC OFFICER.
WE'RE PAYING [INAUDIBLE] IN A LEASH, SO WE JUST TOOK THAT AND GOT A TRUCK, SO THEY DIDN'T USE IT AND THEY'VE BEEN USING IT SINCE LAST AUGUST AND [INAUDIBLE] BUT THEY DO HAVE THEIR NEW TRUCK TODAY AND THEY'RE ENJOY IT,
[05:25:05]
SO WE'RE GOOD THERE.ON EQUIPMENT, THEY WANT TO GET SOME MICROCHIP READERS, THREE OF THEM.
I THINK WE ADD THAT TO 7250, AND THEY WANT TO GET A REFRIGERATED SAFE FOR CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
THEY WANT TO GET A PET BATHING STATION [INAUDIBLE] SUPPLIES.
>> LIKE TRANQUILIZER? [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES FOR ANIMALS LIKE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE ARE CLASSIFIED AS AN OPIOID SHELTER.
>> HOWEVER, AT SOME POINT IT'S CATS OR DOGS THAT'S [OVERLAPPING]
>> RIGHT, AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER THEY NEED TO TAKE OF, SO LET'S KEY DOWN ON THIS OFFER.
>> I WILL SAY, PD PROBABLY HAS MORE DETAIL ON THEIR BUDGET THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
LOOK, THEY LITERALLY HAVE EVERYTHING LISTED THERE THAT MAKES IT THAT $7,200.
>> GOOD JOB, LOOPY. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> NO [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF VEHICLES, IT'S THE SAME.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE GOT THAT IN [INAUDIBLE] IS GOING TO SAVE US THERE [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, THREE VEHICLES STILL, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY [INAUDIBLE] TO GO OVER THAT.
[INAUDIBLE] MENTIONED EQUIPMENT. POLICE VEHICLE, WE ADDED IN THERE.
BUILDING SERVICES, THERE ARE BUILDINGS WE'RE TRYING TO REPLACE ANY UNIT, THAT COOLANT HEATER SHELTER.
IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE SHELTER, YOU KNOW IT'S VERY HARD TO DO THAT, SO LIEUTENANT [INAUDIBLE] IS IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET BIDS IF THE [INAUDIBLE] NOT REPAIR THEM ANYMORE.
WE GOT THAT DIRECTION FROM THE STAGE MANAGER TO REPLACE THESE THINGS AND GET THEM TO WHERE THOSE ANIMALS CAN BE COOL AND HE DID THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
>> RIGHT NOW THEY'RE [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT?
>> WELL, [INAUDIBLE] I THINK ABOUT 45 OR 46 DOGS AND I WAS THINKING [INAUDIBLE] BUT THE GOOD THING IS THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS THAT WE PUT OUT AND THEY PUT OUT WITH RESCUES THAT WE'VE HAD, PROBABLY, I THINK 45 THAT WERE ADOPTED THIS WEEK, AND IF MEGAN GOES AND GETS HER STAKES, THERE'LL BE AN EXTRA SIX [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] GIVE ONE MORE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF THE CAT GET A [INAUDIBLE] OR WHATEVER, DO THEY TAKE THEM? DO THEY PICK HIM UP OR DO THEY JUST LET HIM RUN?
>> WE HAVE THE FERAL CAT COLLEAGUES THAT WE TAKE THEM TO.
>> BECAUSE I HAD ONE AND I WENT AND GOT IT FIXED, BUT IT JUST STAYED AROUND MY HOUSE, BUT WHEN I WENT ON VACATION, CAME BACK, HE WAS GONE.
I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO GO AND LOOK FOR HIM.
>> BE SURE TO TAKE YOUR BOYS WITH YOU.
YOU WANT TO GET A CAT KENNEL AND PLACE [INAUDIBLE] IN THERE.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN TWO BUILDINGS FOR THESE QUARANTINED ANIMALS, BUT THERE'S AIRBORNE CONTAMINATION OUT THERE WITH THE DISEASES, SO GETTING TWO EXTRA BUILDINGS TO PUT OUTSIDE TO QUARANTINE THESE ANIMALS WOULD BE NOT COST EFFECTIVE, SO WHAT [INAUDIBLE] ALSO COME UP WITH IS TRYING TO BUILD INSIDE THE SHELTER TWO BUILDINGS TO WHERE WE CAN QUARANTINE THOSE ANIMALS INSIDE AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO HEAT AND COOL THOSE AS WELL, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO INSIDE OF THE SHELTER INSTEAD OF GOING OUTSIDE AND PUTTING TWO PORTABLE BUILDINGS IN THERE, AND THEN TRYING TO GET THOSE THINGS HEATED AND COOLED AND FIXED UP SO WE CAN QUARANTINE THOSE ANIMALS.
>> WHAT AIRBORNE CONTAMINATION ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT WITH A CAT?
SEE WHAT THEY WAS, BECAUSE LIEUTENANT [INAUDIBLE] WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, BUT HE WENT TO MEXICO INSTEAD.
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>> CONTAMINATION, I'M GOING TO LECTURE.
[LAUGHTER] I WOULD ADD [OVERLAPPING]
>> I CAN FIND ANY INFORMATION THERE FOR YOU.
>> MITCHELL NOW JUST MEET [OVERLAPPING] DETECTIVE DIVISION AND WE ALSO REORGANIZE THAT AS WELL.
HE'S ALSO IN CHARGE OF DISPATCH NOW, SO HE HAD DISPATCH AND THE DETECTIVES AND THE VICTIM SERVICES.
>> WE JUST PROMOTED OR TRANSFERRED SERGEANT MOORE, [INAUDIBLE] MOORE TO DETECTIVE SERGEANT; DO WE HAVE MS. CHAPMAN, COCO PEDANTIC, DURING THIS CALL SHE'D BACKED GO OUT ON MATERNITY LEAVE , AND JD WYNE.
>> IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR REGROUPING? NO?
>> THANK YOU, ALL. APPRECIATE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. YES, 36 THAT'S OUT THERE.
YES. THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT ON THIS PAGE WAS THIS PART THAT THOSE OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, HE'S NOT ALL IN ONE DETECTIVE.
TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT OF MY SALARY COMES OUT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE REST OF MY SALARY COMES OUT OF [INAUDIBLE].
OKAY, SO IN CASE YOU ALL WERE CONFUSED, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
THE ONLY THING THAT I REALLY WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET WAS THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE HAD BUXTON AND MIKE BARN, THEY DID THE INVENTORY.
MIKE IS GOING TO COME BACK AT THE END OF THIS MONTH AND TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY, THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR THAT WE WANT TO CONTRACT WITH HIM FOR INDUSTRIAL SERVICES.
>> [INAUDIBLE] ALL THIS IS [OVERLAPPING]
>> SO THERE'S THAT. ESSENTIALLY HIS RESUME AND EMAIL AND QUALIFICATIONS, THEY GOT A MILLION SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE GOING IN BROOKSHIRE AND THIS IS LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IT TAKES TIME TO DO, BUT I THINK HE'S THE RIGHT GUY.
WOULD YOU OFFER OUR B OR SOMETHING, BUT HE KNOWS ANGLE TO KNOW, STRENGTHS OR WEAKNESSES, SO LET'S GET HIM OUT THERE AND ACTIVELY RECRUIT.
>> RIGHT. I'VE ONLY JUST MET MIKE THIS YEAR, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR HIM IS, IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT BROOKSHIRE, BROOKSHIRE REALLY HAD NOTHING.
THEY HAD LAND, LIKE WE DO, BUT THERE WASN'T REALLY A COMMUNITY THAT YOU WERE BUILDING AROUND AND BROOKSHIRE LIKE WE HAVE.
HE GOT IN FRONT OF THE RIGHT PEOPLE BECAUSE HE'S BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR SO LONG.
SO [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE GOING TO SAN ANTONIO. YES.
>> YOU WOULD PROBABLY JUST BLINK AND NOT EVEN REALIZE THAT SHE HAD GONE THROUGH.
BUT HE SENT A LOT OF GREAT THINGS.
SO I KNOW THAT HE KNOWS, HE WAS ON THE BOARD WITH THE CDC.
HE'S GOT ALL THE CREDENTIALS TO KNOW THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW.
SO WHILE WE KNOW IT'S A CULTIVATION AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
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I THINK, GETTING IN FRONT OF THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND TELLING THEM WHAT'S GOING ON IN ANGLETON, IS GOOD TO OUR ADVANTAGE.THE OTHER PART IS, LAST YEAR WE ADVOCATED FOR BUXTON, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THEY HAD CALLED THE SCALP PLATFORM AND THEN THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE RETAIL MATCH.
WE REALLY LATCHED ONTO THE RETAIL MATCH AND THAT TOO, WE'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO AND TALKING TO YOU, AND THOSE WERE THE TOP OF THE 10 THAT THEY GAVE US WHAT WE ADDED TO THAT.
WE'VE BEEN DOING WHAT WE'D NORMALLY DO.
BUT THEY HAD DONE A DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY TO TELL US, THESE PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ALIGNED WITH WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE GROWTH.
BUXTON HAS GONE INTO THE SCALP PLATFORM ALMOST PREDOMINANTLY.
THEY'RE DROPPING THE RETAIL MATCH PORTION.
THAT'S THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER.
THEY REALLY LIKE THE DATA SITE.
I FEEL LIKE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK CHRIS CAN CONCURS, RIGHT NOW WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON THE RETAIL SIDE.
>> WE KNOW OUR STRENGTH AND WEAKNESSES ARE AND WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.
WE JUST NEED TO BE, "HOW DO WE GET IN THE DOOR WITH SOMEONE." [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. TO THAT POINT, IF YOU REMEMBER THE BUXTON PRESENTATION THAT I DID FOR COUNCIL MADE TYPICAL, THAT DIGGING YOUR PHONES, GETTING ALL THE DATA.
WELL, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE GIVING YOU, THE COMPANIES THAT ARE LOOKING AT ANGLETON, AND ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES THEY ARE USING THOSE SAME RESOURCES.
WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHO IS A COMMUNITY THAT HAS 20-25 THOUSAND.
THEY'RE TAKING ALL THEIR BOXES, RIGHT? IT'S CLOSE TO THIS, THE POPULATION OUTSIDE OF THEIR CITY IS THIS, WHATEVER THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE IN COMPARISON TO BEING IN FRONT OF A RETAILER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT, THAT GETTING THAT DATA WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT AND WE'RE HAVING TO PRIORITIZE.
WE'RE ADVOCATING THAT WE GET IN FRONT OF THE RETAILERS ON ONE SIDE, WITH A COMPANY.
LIKE, RETAIL COACH IS ONE, RETAIL STRATEGIES AND ANOTHER AND WITH MIKE BARN ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE.
>> MIKE BARN, IF HE GOES IN NEXT YEAR, WE TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S REALLY AGAINST THE INDUSTRIAL, RIGHT?
>> BUT WHICH IS WHAT HE'S DONE IN BROOKSHIRE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH MIKE, WHEN HE DID F IN INVENTORY AND WHAT HE'LL PROBABLY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WHEN HE COMES ON THE 27TH IS, ANGLETON IS RIGHT.
FOR EXAMPLE, AMAZON DISTRIBUTION CENTER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CAPACITY ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR, FROM AN INDUSTRY STANDPOINT.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> BECAUSE OF WATER TEMPTATION.
>> I WOULDN'T WANT SOMETHING THAT, THEY'LL PICK OLD FACTORY OR WHISKEY, SOMETHING, BECAUSE THEY REQUIRE A LOT OF WATER WHICH [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE DO. RIGHT? [LAUGHTER] THAT'S THE ALL OTHER NEXT DISCUSSION OF INCREASED CAPACITY AND WHATEVER.
BUT I'M SAYING, THEY ARE CURRENT [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHAT CAN WE HAVE NOW, WITH THE LAND THAT WE HAVE, WITH THE CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE, KNOWING THAT WITH THE HOME DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S THE PROPOSAL HERE, IS THAT WE GO WITH MIKE BARN FROM THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE, RETAIL STRATEGIES ON THE RETAIL SIDE, AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT LEFTOVER BECAUSE WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PAGES ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT WE ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING MICHAEL TALK ABOUT WITH YOU, ALL I'M SURE IS, THAT WE NEED TO BE OUT IN FRONT OF THEM ON THE WEBSITE.
OKAY? BECAUSE WHEN THEY REACH OUT TO US, WE SEND THEM ALL THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND TRAFFIC STUDIES, ALL OF THAT.
WELL, NOT THAT WE STILL WOULDN'T DO THAT, BUT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT JUST VERY QUICKLY AT MIDNIGHT WITHOUT HAVING TO REACH OUT TO US, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN OR COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHAT THAT CONSTITUTE, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE IT WAS 57, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE ADVOCATING THAT WE GO TO A 100.
>> OUR PHILOSOPHY IS WE'RE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT REACHING OUT TO
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BRING IN THAT INDUSTRY IN COMMERCIAL AND HOW WE NEED TO BRIDGE THAT GAP TO GET THERE.NEXT YEAR WE MAY NOT NEED TO DO THE WEBSITE STUFF BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE WEBSITE.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WEBSITE?
>> OR JUST UPDATING AND REVAMPING.
>> JUST THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PART.
ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PAGES, RIGHT NOW YOU DID HAVE A LANDING PAGE THAT SAYS "THESE ARE THE THINGS WE DO".
WE WANT YOU TO COME, WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, HERE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE, WHICH I JUST LINK TO OUR COUNTY PAGES, CONTACT CHRIS WHITAKER IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION.
IF SOMEBODY PINGS CHRIS, HE SAYS, "HEY, MARTHA, REACH OUT [INAUDIBLE] AND GET THEM THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THEY NEED," AND THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.
INSTEAD OF IT BEING A ONE-STOP SHOPPING WHERE YOU'RE GETTING SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD WANT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH LAYERS TO GET IT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR PRESENT WEBSITE.
NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE ON DOING A REVAMP OF THE WHOLE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO RAMP UP THAT PAGE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PAGE.
>> JUST THE RETAIL RECRUITMENT, $40,000.
IF WE ALREADY FOUND THAT BUXTON DIDN'T HELP LIKE WE THOUGHT IT DID, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO SPEND ANOTHER $40,000 ON RETAIL RECRUITMENT AND PROBABLY GET THE SAME RESULTS?
>> WELL, THE ONLY REASON I'D ADVOCATE FOR IT, IS I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
>> RETAIL STRATEGIES, THEY'RE A COMPANY, THAT'S WHAT THEY FOCUS ON PREDOMINANTLY.
IN THE OLDEN DAYS, WHEN WE WERE USING RETAIL COACH BEFORE AND YOU SPENT $30,000 OR $40,000, YOU GOT YOUR LEAKAGE STUDY, ALL OF THAT.
NOW, YOU CAN DO THAT WITH THE TOUCH OF A BUTTON.
THINGS HAVE PROGRESSED SO MUCH.
RETAIL STRATEGIES ACTUALLY KNOWS WHO TO GET IN FRONT OF, THEY'RE NOT JUST SAYING, "HERE, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT CONTACT INFORMATION".
THEY'RE SITTING WITH THOSE PEOPLE.
THEY'RE GOING TO THE CONFERENCES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S HAVING A CONSULTANT THAT'S ACTUALLY PARTNERING WITH US TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
>> BUT TO ME IN MY UNDERSTANDING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS.
>> JUST LIKE THE EXPERIENCE WITH BUXTON, THEY GAVE US 10-14 LEADS.
WELL, SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES WERE LIKE, "NO, THANK YOU." SOFTWARE TIME OTHERS LIKE, "HEY, PLEASE REACH BACK OUT TO US" AND SO EVEN WITH MIKE BARNS, TO ME, THIS IS THE COMMITMENT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS THAT HE'S GOING TO DEVELOP THE LEADS AND THEN, JUST LIKE DEVELOPMENT, BY THE TIME YOU BRING HIM IN AND WHATEVER, IT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS.
SAME THING WITH THESE RETAILS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TO GET IN THEIR BUSINESS CYCLE.
THEY MAY SAY, "WELL, BECAUSE OF COVID, WHENEVER, WE'LL RAMP IT BACK UP AND WE'LL BE READY NEXT YEAR." WELL, THAT BUSINESS WE'LL HAVE TO PUT ON HOLD UNTIL NEXT YEAR TO DO THAT, AND THE ONLY REASON WE'RE CHANGING FROM BUXTON IS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING WHAT WE NEED.
>> THEY'RE DROPPING THE SERVICE THAT WE WERE MOST INTERESTED IN, YEAH.
>> JUST $10,000 MORE THAN WE SPENT ON BUXTON.
GOING $10,000 BUT IT'S STILL $10,000.
>> I'M LOOKING AT IT AS $40,000.
>> I KNOW YOU ARE. I SEE THAT AS WELL.
BUT LIKEWISE, IT'S $10,000 MORE THAN TAKING THE BUXTON ONE.
WHAT MORE DO WE GET FROM THEM?
>> WELL, YOU GET MARKETING MATERIALS.
THEY ACTUALLY HELP YOU ON THE MARKETING SIDE.
THEY'RE A FULL-SERVICE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MARKETING COMPANY, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY COMPARE THE TWO COMPANIES TO EACH OTHER.
THEIR SERVICE IS VERY DIFFERENT.
ONE IS DATA-DRIVEN AND YES, THEY GET A RETAIL MATCH.
THEY COULD SAY, "HEY, WE KNOW THESE PEOPLE, WE'RE GOING TO SEND THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION TO YOU" AND THEY DID THAT.
RETAIL STRATEGIES IS A 100 PERCENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MARKETING COMPANY.
>> IF ANYTHING IN CONVERSATION AND I WOULD SAY, MIKE BARNS, RETAIL RECRUITMENT, AND THEN WE TAKE A HIT ON THE WEBSITE.
>> WELL, JUST YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT MANY LEFTOVERS THIS YEAR.
EVEN IF I SAID, "HEY, WE CAN ONLY JUST DO WHAT WE CAN AFFORD THIS YEAR", THAT'S IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, AND BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE LEFTOVER, THE $10,000 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL THE THINGS ON THE WEBSITE THAT WE WANT.
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BUT MAYBE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT THIS YEAR AND THAT'S NOT EVEN A DEFINITE POINT.I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW WHAT COMPRISES THAT $100,000.
>> I DON'T THINK YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SPENDING SOME MONEY HERE, BUT THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HELP US GET THAT KNOCK ON THE DOOR, THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO.
THEY MAY HAVE THE APPLE BEE CONTACT.
THEY HAVE THE PEOPLE AT HOME DEPOT, THEY HAVE ALL OF THAT.
THOSE INSIDE TRACK CONTACTS TO HELP US GET ONE STEP CLOSER TO MAKE THEM REOPEN THEIR EYES AND SEE, "HEY, THERE'S ANGLETON." MAKE IT HELP US CHEERLEAD FOR ANGLETON AND GET US THERE.
WHETHER IT'S SUCCESSFUL FOR NEXT YEAR, WE DON'T KNOW, WE JUST DON'T KNOW, BUT THERE'S THE EXPERTS, THE CONSULTING.
PEOPLE SAY, "OH, THEY'RE CONSULTANTS" BUT HOPEFULLY, WE CAN GET MORE BENEFITS FROM OUR BUCKS.
>> I GUESS, I'M MORE INTERESTED IN COMMERCIAL.
>> I'M MORE INDUSTRIAL. I WANT TO SEE THE INDUSTRY.
>> WE DID PARTS OF IT THAT WAY AS WELL.
>> A FEW SHOPPING, I DON'T KNOW.
>> WE DON'T NEED A MALL NEXT [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S DOMINANCE, THAT MAY BE MORE MAYBE 30-40 JOBS IF IT'S A BIGGER GROCERY CHAIN OR NEW OR HIGH-END RETAILER OR SOMETHING ANCHOR-WISE.
>> DON'T YOU THINK MIKE BARNS IS GOING TO DO THAT FOR US ANYWAY?
>> I THINK MIKE BARNS IS GOING TO BE THE DISTRIBUTION.
>> YES, INDUSTRIAL. HE IS GOING TO FOCUS ON [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU SAID HE HAS CONTACTS ANYWAYS [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE JUST GOT TALKED TO BY THE CHIEF SAYING HE NEEDS BODY CAMS, $60,000.
WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND THE $60,000? THERE'S $30,000 ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT THERE.
>> LIKE I SAID I CAN SCRATCH THE WEBSITE OFF OF THINGS RIGHT NOW.
>> YEAH OR LIKE I SAID IF WE JUST DO WHAT WE CAN AFFORD THIS YEAR OUT OF THE $30,000 BUDGETED AND WE SAY, WHATEVER WE CAN'T AFFORD, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE.
FAMILIES MAKE THOSE DECISIONS EVERY DAY, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
IF YOU'RE ASKING US TO PRIORITIZE IN THAT LINE ITEM, CHRIS SAID IT.
WE WOULD SEE MIKE BARNS FIRST.
WE WOULD HAVE HIM START WORKING ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE.
>> WELL, LIKE I SAID, I THINK I'M GOING TO START ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I THINK MIKE BARNS IS GOING TO COME TO YOU ALL ON THE 27TH AND SAY, "YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO GET THAT GOING" AND SO I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO OUR LOCAL DESIGN TEAM HERE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IT WITH WHAT I'VE GOT [OVERLAPPING] TO MAKE IT BETTER.
>> YOU THINK RETAIL RECRUITMENT IS THE THIRD ITEM?
>> I WOULD SAY IT WAS SECOND BECAUSE I THINK THE WEBSITE IS PROBABLY SEPARATE.
>> WELL, I HEAR FROM RESIDENTS ALL THE TIME.
THERE IS A SENIOR DAY OVER AT DIRECT CENTER AND PROBABLY A THIRD OF THEM SAID, "OH, ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF ANGLETON, WE NEED A BIGGER GROCERY STORE."
>> THAT'S THE SOLUTION. I THINK TO GET AT THAT, THE RETAIL.
THAT'S WHY I KNOW WE NEEDED A CITY [OVERLAPPING].
>> DO WE GET TO TELL THEM WHERE THEY PUT THEIR RETAIL STORE?
>> SO JUST SAY "NO OFFENSE" TO ANYBODY ON THE SOUTHSIDE TOWN BUT WE CAN'T TELL.
IF YOU COME HERE, BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP HOMES ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF TOWN.
>> THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD DO THAT IS IF YOU'RE GIVING THEM PROPERTY [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE MARKET ANALYSIS AND SAY, [OVERLAPPING] WHAT'S THE PROPER COUNT, WHAT'S THE POPULATION?
>> I JUST WANT TO BE REALISTIC.
YOUR EXAMPLE SOUNDS GREAT, PEOPLE MAY WANT THAT.
BUT WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS NOT FOR IN WHATEVER DEVELOPER OR RETAILERS THINK.
>> PEOPLE THINK WE CAN BUT WE CAN'T.
>> RIGHT AND I DON'T BY ANY MEANS PROMISE ANY OF THAT.
I HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT GROCERY STORES, [OVERLAPPING] WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A SUPER ATB.
BUT WILL THOSE THINGS HAPPEN? IS THE RIGHT OF LAND AVAILABLE? ALL THOSE THINGS, THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS DECISION.
>> IN A PERFECT WORLD, THAT'S WHERE THE BRITISHER BROTHERS RIGHT THERE WITH THE OLD MERIT [OVERLAPPING]
>> YES AND WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE BRITISHER BROTHERS.
>> ACROSS FROM UPS, THE PENNY CORNER HAS A ROLLING ALLEY.
>> PUT IN EITHER. THAT'S THE LAST PLACE TO BE FOR SOME CAPACITY.
I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO HAVE COUNSELING CENTER ON THE SIDE OF TOWN.
JUST TELL ME, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE HONEST.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT DEVELOPERS THINK ABOUT THAT.
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>> RIGHT. WE'RE GETTING NOTICES FROM [INAUDIBLE] OR SOMEONE ELSE COULD SAY, WELL, IF ALL YOUR GROWTH IS ON THE NORTH, THEN WE NEED TO BE POSITIONED TO BE CENTERED IN NORTH.
>> WE'RE ADDING ACTUALLY QUITE A FEW HOUSES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.
>> I DON'T CARE WHICH ONE YOU CUT, I JUST THINK ONE OF THEM IS GOT TO FOR THE BODY CAMS.
>> HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU NEED?
>> HE NEEDS 80. WELL, 60 AND 20, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE JUST ON THIS ONE ITEM, BUT HALF OF THAT WILL BE [INAUDIBLE].
>> HOW ABOUT WE TAKE 20 OFF THE WEBSITE? SO MARTHA, YOU CAN JUST SIGN THIS YEAR AND DO MORE NEXT YEAR.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, ARE YOU GOOD WITH KEEPING IT AT WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR, AT 57 OR 60? WAS IS IT YOU WANT ME TO CUT?
>> THAT WOULD GIVE ME MORE THAN WHAT I'M ASKING [LAUGHTER].
>> OKAY. SO YOU JUST WANT ME TO CUT THE WEBSITE AND TAKE CARE OF IT THIS YEAR?
>> I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU CUT AND WEBSITE, IT GETS YOU TO 70, I WOULD TOUCH-
>> [INAUDIBLE] THAT GETS DONE.
>> YES. IF I HAD TO PUT MY MONEY IN SOMEWHERE, I'M GOING MIKE BARNES, I'M GOING WITH INDUSTRIAL [OVERLAPPING].
>> NO. MIKE BARNES [OVERLAPPING].
>> I SUPPORT MIKE BARNES AND INDUSTRIAL [INAUDIBLE].
>> MIKE BARNES IS ACTUALLY A $3,500 RETAINER A MONTH FOR HIS SERVICES, SO THAT'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
>> THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY CORRECT.
THE TOTAL, WHEN I BROKE IT DOWN HERE, MIKE CAME BACK THIS WEEK, BECAUSE WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH HIM ON, IF YOU DO THIS AND IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, AND HE JUST CAME BACK TO US WITH BASICALLY A MONTHLY FEE FOR THE SERVICES WE WERE ASKING HIM TO DO.
>> WE CAN CUT THE RETAIL RECRUITMENT.
I'M JUST [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]
I'M JUST TELLING YOU, GOING BY WHAT YOU STOOD HERE EARLIER AND SAID, THAT IF WE LACK WHAT THEY [INAUDIBLE], THERE'S $5 MILLION IN THAT LOCKET THAT WE'RE GETTING 100,000 FROM INDUSTRIAL, FIVE MILLION IN THE SAME LEAGUE.
>> BUT WE ALSO LUCK IN THE RETAIL TOO.
WE GOT PEOPLE GOING TO CHICK-FIL-A AND LAKE JACKSON WHERE THEY COULD BE SPENDING MONEY HERE.
>> NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, AND EVEN IF WE HIRE THAT COMPANY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
>> THAT'S WHY I SAW THESE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> THROUGH MORTGAGE CARE, I'VE SEEN THIS.
WE HAVE PUSHED MONEY AFTER MONEY AFTER MONEY AFTER THESE GROUPS AND WE'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING.
I DON'T WANT TO AGREE WITH YOU, JOHN, I DON'T, BUT YOU'RE HARD TO TALK TO [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M WRITING THAT DOWN [LAUGHTER].
>> I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S ME [OVERLAPPING].
THEY'RE DOING [INAUDIBLE] WE WENT OUT.
>> THAT'S TRUE. [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]
>> I DO THINK FOCUSING TO BE INDUSTRIAL, BECAUSE INDUSTRIAL BRINGS THE BIGGER JOBS.
YOU'VE GOT A BIT OF A HIGHER PAYING JOB AND THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO GO EAT, SO THEN RETAIL STORES ARE GOING TO COME, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT'S THE [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW? IF THEY DIFFER.
>> YOU'RE ONLY FILLING POSITIONS, YOU'RE NOT CREATING [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> FOR BENCHMARK, IT'S REALLY STEPPED DOWN.
SO IT'S NOT EVEN A FULL STAFF OUT THERE.
>> YEAH. HE WAS SAYING, IF YOU GOT SOMEBODY IN THAT BUILDING, IT WOULD BE [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO AVOID, RIGHT [OVERLAPPING]?
>> IF RETAILERS WEREN'T COMING WHENEVER WE HAD THE JOBS, WHY ARE THEY GOING TO COME NOW?
THERE IS ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT.
THE WAY ANGLETON IS THEIR ANY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE PAST HAS BEEN PRETTY PASSIVE.
I'M NOT BEING NEGATIVE, I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHY I THINK IT'S TRUE.
YOU COULD TAKE MORE OF THAT PHILOSOPHY AND DO IT THAT WAY AND JUST GO AFTER INDUSTRIAL THIS YEAR AND GET TO KNOW THESE HOUSES ON THE GROUND.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A YEAR TO FILL THEM UP.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, CHRIS?
>> THE GOOD NEWS IS, EVERY TIME YOU TALK ABOUT INDUSTRIAL GROWTH OR WHATEVER, ONE OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS I'M ALWAYS ASKING YOU IS WHERE ARE ALL THE FOLKS GOING TO GO LIVE? WE'VE GOT THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THAT'S WHY I'M PUSHING IT BECAUSE WE CAN SAY THEY CAN LIVE HERE IN ANGLETON,
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THEY DON'T HAVE TO COMMUTE TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.LET ME LISTEN TO WHAT YOU-ALL SAY.
I WOULD SAY WE DO THE MIKE BARNES THING, WE TAKE THE RETAIL RECRUITMENT OFF THE THING, WE SCALE DOWN THE WEBSITE, BECAUSE YOU CAN USE SOME THIS YEAR AND THEN SOME NEXT YEAR.
>> LET'S GIVE THE MIKE BARNES IT'S NUMBER LIFE, BECAUSE YOU SAID 3,700 A MONTH.
>> I'LL PUT THAT IN THERE, BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN 27,000.
>> IT'S MY FAULT. I DID ASK [LAUGHTER].
>> I'M ASKING YOU TO COMMIT AND I KNOW BUDGET YEAR BY YEAR, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE STRATEGIC PATIENCE ON THIS TOO.
WELL, I COULD SAY, WE HAVE MIKE BARNES FOR A YEAR AND BEEN [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE'LL BE HERE NEXT [NOISE].
SURE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT MIKE BARNES IS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT MORE FROM THE STRATEGY [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE KNOW WHO MIKE BOSTON IS [LAUGHTER].
>> YES. TO THAT POINT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE SAY, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY RETAIL RECRUITMENT.
I WENT TO GREAT [INAUDIBLE] TWO WEEKS AGO WITH MY FAMILY.
I CAME HOME, I SENT HIM A LETTER, SENT HIM THE VIDEO, SENT HIM THE MAGAZINE, CHRIS SENT ME STUFF, I HEAR FROM YOU-ALL, HEY, THIS IS A COOL PLACE, WHATEVER, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
>> IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
>> OKAY. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IN RESPONSE TO THAT IS WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND THAT I'M IN, I'M WILLING TO GIVE MIKE BARNES AND HIS GROUP A YEAR AND ANOTHER TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE INDUSTRIAL.
UNTIL WE GET IT ON THE GROUND, WE'LL JUST KEEP PURSUING IT.
>> THE RETAIL, YOU'VE GOT, MARTHA, AND YOU'VE GOT ROOFTOPS THAT WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO [INAUDIBLE].
I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THEIR FORMULA; IT'S NOT ALL THEIR FORMULA, ROOFTOPS, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THE FORMULA WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IT, JUST LIKE HIS [INAUDIBLE].
WHY DON'T WE GO WITH GIVING MIKE HIS WHOLE SHARE. WE TENURE.
[INAUDIBLE] IT'S NOT GOING TO TENURE UNLESS EXPECTED. BUT WE WANT FEEDBACK.
WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE LIKE A ONE ANNUAL CHECKUP.
GIVE THIS A SYSTEM OF THREE TIMES A YEAR.
>> CHRIS IS ALREADY SAYING THAT QUARTERLY.
WE WANT TO CHECK IN WITH YOU-ALL AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FRONT SO AT LEAST YOU KNOW WHO WE'RE TALKING TO, WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, KEEP YOU LOOPED IN.
>> I THINK WE WANT TO KNOW IN RETURN FOR MIKE EITHER HE SENDS US AN EMAIL, LIKE HERE'S YOUR FULL PAGE.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO ONTO THE WEEK.
I KNOW IT'S MUCH DEEPER THAN THAT.
OR HE [INAUDIBLE] PEERED WITH HORRID WHEN YOU GIVE IT A CERTAIN SWIRL.
>> WE CAN ALSO ASK HIM ABOUT THE RETAIL FEES.
>> IF WE CAN BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS AND THEN MAKE SURE WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SERVICE HE'S [INAUDIBLE].
>> THE REPORTING, IF HE DID NOT DO IT, WE'RE CUTTING TIES.
WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF YOU.
>> THAT'S ANOTHER THING, HE DID SAY THAT WE COULD SEVER THE RELATIONSHIP AT ANYTIME FROM EITHER SIDE.
WE'RE NOT TIED INTO IT FOR A YEAR.
>> I'M ALL ABOUT GIVING HIM A CHANCE, BUT AT THE SAME, WE COULD ALL TELL HIM WHEN WE KNOW, LIKE, THIS IS NOT A GOOD VALUE.
>> VALUE OR VALUE [INAUDIBLE].
>> HE MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED ON SOMEBODY PAYING A HIGHER SERVICE FEE.
JUST REALITY OF BUSINESS. I DON'T KNOW.
HOPEFULLY, THAT WON'T BE THE CASE [NOISE].
>> GREAT. SO WE WANT THIS NUMBER TO BE WAS A 100.
>> THAT'S 42. CAN WE GO TO 50 OR YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AS A 42?
>> ARE WE GOING TO GO TO 10 AT THE WEBSITE?
>> ZERO ON THE RETAIL RECRUITMENT. WHAT NUMBER IS THAT?
>> FIFTY FIVE WITH THAT THREE [OVERLAPPING]-
>> I DON'T LIKE THE EITHER [LAUGHTER].
>> YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS [LAUGHTER]?
>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN [LAUGHTER]?
>> YOU DON'T GET ASSISTANCE IN IT.
>> COULD WE AT LEAST MAKE IT EVEN MORE ON THE WEBSITE JUST FOR [OVERLAPPING]-
>> YOU CAN USE A [INAUDIBLE] AT 415.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ARE YOU SAYING [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> GENERALIZE THE OTHER 13 ON THE WEBSITE.
>> CAN'T WATCH MY WORDS [LAUGHTER].
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>> THAT'S A WEIRD NUMBER [LAUGHTER].
>> WE'RE SAYING 55,000? ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT, JOHN?
>> YEAH, I'M ONE PERSON PLUS I DON'T KNOW IF MARK WILL AGREE WITH ME.
>> I GOT 35 [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
>> HE GAVE ME BATTERIES TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT? BETTER?
>> NO. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO RECRUIT FROM INDUSTRIAL 5.
IT CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
>> DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE OTHER FUNDS LIKE HOTEL OR?
>> YES, GIVE AN UPDATE ON NOT NECESSARILY FUND, BUT WHERE WE ARE HOTEL [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE'RE TRYING TO SKIP OVER COVID YEAR 2020 AND JUST SAY ANOMALY.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET BACK ON TRACK.
>> CHRIS, WHAT WAS THE FUND BALANCE IN THAT ACCOUNT?
>> I WAS ABOUT TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION.
>> [INAUDIBLE] 552,000 THAT WAS IN THERE.
>> WE HAVE TO CALM IT DOWN BECAUSE WE'VE HAD DEFICITS THE LAST FEW YEARS, SO IT'S [INAUDIBLE]
>> ARE ALL OF [INAUDIBLE] UP ON THEIR-
>> NO, THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] IS BEHIND IT.
WE'VE HIRED A COMPANY TO DO AN AUDIT.
>> THERE WAS TWO AUDITS. WE'RE DOING TWO AUDITS EVERY YEAR.
BUDGET JUST GOT DONE, THEY HAVE A CLEAN AUDIT, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE NO DISCREPANCIES.
[INAUDIBLE] IS UNDER REVIEW RIGHT NOW.
SHE'LL GET DONE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, I'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL WHEN THAT ONE GETS DONE AND REPORT THAT UP TO YOU.
>> THE DEFERRAL THAT Y'ALL DID, IT'S ALL DONE.
WE'RE HOPING FOR GOOD NUMBERS THIS QUARTER.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING LOT, THEY'RE FILLING UP.
IF ANY OF YOU HAVE TRIED TO BOOK HOTELS TO GO SOMEWHERE WITH YOUR FAMILY, YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE HARD TO FIND AND THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO GAIN GROUND.
WE SHOULD SEE THINGS REALLY SWINGING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL REBOUND.
>> FOR THAT PART OF THE RECRUITMENT WE WORK ON OTHER OPTIONS FOR HOTELS OR HOTELS AS CONVENTION CENTERS.
>> THAT WAS ANOTHER THING. I MEAN, WE WERE WORKING WITH A HOTELIER BEFORE AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO HIM A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT WE'LL KEEP ON THAT TRAIN AS WELL, ESPECIALLY IF THINGS ARE LOOKING BETTER.
EVERYBODY WAS REALLY SCARED WITH COVID.
THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY WAS PRETTY MUCH DECIMATED.
>> WE THINK THE LAST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, THE JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER, THAT OUGHT TO BE RETURNING TO NORMAL IF IT'S GOING TO RETURN TO NORMAL WITH SUMMER MOVEMENT.
>> SO WE'RE AROUND BUDGET, OCTOBER 1ST KIND OF HOW WE'RE FARING.
>> IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH FUND 11, BUT MARKET DAYS IS A HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND EVENT.
DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOTELS ANYMORE THAN THAT THAT WE JUST COVERED?
>> WE'LL JUST PROJECT THAT WE'LL RETURN TO NORMAL THEN WE CAN RETURN TO NORMAL EXPENSES BUT IF WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> MARTHA, WE AGREE THAT FOR PEACH STREET [INAUDIBLE] AND JIM LUNA THING AND SOME OF THE THINGS BECAUSE LAST YEAR WAS JUST SUCH A WEIRD YEAR THAT WE'RE RESETTING AND SAYING, THIS IS YEAR ONE OF THREE YEARS LOOKING AT HOT FUNDED EVENTS SO THAT WE GIVE FOLKS A CHANCE TO RE-ESTABLISH AND THEN SINK OR SWIM AFTERWARDS.
>> YEAH. BECAUSE BASED ON THE CRITERIA FOR GETTING A HOT FUND GRANT AND ACTUALLY PUTTING HEADS IN BEDS AND DIRECTLY IMPACTING TOURISM IN THE CITY.
IT'S A GREAT EVENT QUALITY OF LIFE.
A [INAUDIBLE] ON THE LAWN KIND OF CONCERT.
YOU REALLY NEED TO BE BRINGING PEOPLE IN.
LIKE MARKET DAY SAYS, WHERE YOU'RE LIKE,
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PEOPLE WERE HAVING TO GO TO JACKSON TO SPEND THE NIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE ROOM IN ANGLETON.THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. EVEN SOME OF THE CITY EVENTS THAT WE DO, THEY'RE NOT HOT FUNDED BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO THAT.
SO WE WOULD HOLD THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO THAT SAME CRITERIA.
THE CONVERSATION THAT CHRIS IS TALKING ABOUT IS ONE WHERE WE WERE SAYING, SOMETIMES EVEN MARKET DAYS, YOU HAVE TO LET THEM BUILD THAT EVENT.
THEY START OUT AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO BE AWESOME AND THE BANDS ARE GOING TO SPEND THE NIGHT.
SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT AT FIRST UNTIL YOU GROW IT.
WE'RE TRYING TO WALK WITH THEM TO GROW THAT EVENT FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN SAY, IS IT REALLY APPLICABLE OR NOT?
>> NO, LIKE THE PEACH STREET NIGHT JAM, THEY WERE FUNDED FROM [OVERLAPPING].
>> OR JIM LUNA. LIKE MARKET DAYS, BECAUSE WE STARTED AND I WAS LIKE, IS IT GOING TO WORK? THIS WAS JUST A CONCEPT WHEN I FIRST STARTED IT, AND IT DID. THANK GOODNESS.
>> BUT WE'VE GOT THE GUNSLINGER GUY NOW GO TO MARKET DAYS, SO THAT'LL ADD A LITTLE BIT OF [INAUDIBLE].
WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD ON THESE CURRENT THINGS AND MAKE THEM MORE.
INSTEAD OF JUST HIM DOING HIS EVENT OUT THERE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS BY HIMSELF, NOW WE'VE GOT ALL THESE VENDORS THAT FOLKS CAN GO WONDER AROUND IN-BETWEEN EVENTS AND SO IT'LL HELP HIM HIS EVENT OUT AND THAT HELPS OUR MARKET DAYS.
SOMETHING FOR FOLKS TO DO IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SHOP AT THAT TIME.
>> IT'S AN EVENT WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON HORSEBACK AND IT'S A MARKSMANSHIP EVEN, WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON HORSEBACK DOING IT.
>> KIND OF COOL AND WE THOUGHT, HEY, YOU CAN BE AT THE RODEO ARENA AND WE'LL HAVE MARKET DAYS GOING ON AND BE A BIG PARTY.
>> AREN'T YOU PART OF THAT, CHRIS?
>> NOT OFFICIALLY. I AM NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING UNTIL [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] GIVING ME A HORSEBACK TO SHOOT GUNS.
>> THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU AND THIS IS AN ADDED EXPENSE.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO DO WITHIN MY ADVERTISING BUDGET IN HOTEL MOTEL.
IS A COMPANY THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH CALLED C4 AND THEY DO GEOFENCING.
I'M GOING TO WORK WITH THEM TO GEOFENCE THE WHOLE CITY.
TO GEOFENCE OUR ATTRACTIONS LIKE CROCODILE ENCOUNTER, NSR, OUR HISTORICAL, THE MUSEUM, THE STATUE, OUR PARK.
>> WHAT GEOFENCING IS? IT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR CELL PHONES.
WHAT THEY WOULD DO, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST TO SEE WHAT INFORMATION WE COULD GET FROM JIM LUNA'S CONCERT THAT HE JUST HAD.
THEY DIDN'T GEOFENCE THE CITY.
THEY DIDN'T DO ALL OF THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T CONTRACT WITH THEM.
BUT THEY LOOKED AT VETERANS PARK TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE BEFORE.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE THE WEEKEND OF.
>> DO THEY GET OUR ACTUAL USER INFORMATION?
>> BUT THEY COULD TELL ME WHEN THEY GEOFENCE THE CITY AND THEY GEOFENCE THE HOTELS AND ALL OF THAT.
THEY COULD TELL ME, I PINGED THIS PHONE THAT STAYED AT THIS HOTEL, THAT SHOPPED AT WALMART, THAT GOT GAS AT HERE.
I MEAN, HOW AWESOME WOULD THAT BE FROM A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH. THIS MANY PEOPLE WERE OUTSIDE BRAZORIA COUNTY.
WHAT WE FOUND WAS WITH JIM LUNA'S EVENT, THAT HE JUST HAD.
THAT IT WAS PREDOMINATELY LOCAL.
MORE LIKE JACKSON AND ANGLETON ON ONE NIGHT.
INTERESTING LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC THERE.
THEN THE FARTHEST-REACHING WAS FERRIS, TEXAS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT IS, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHERE THE MUSICAL ENTERTAINMENT CAME FROM OR THE STAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT HELPS US VALIDATE OR NOT THE HOT FUND EVENT.
>> OR EVEN MARKET DAYS OR EVEN WHATEVER, JUST SEEING WHERE PEOPLE COME FROM, WHERE ELSE ARE THEY GOING IN ANGLETON WHEN THEY COME HERE.
>> BECAUSE WE'RE USED TO STAYING OUT THERE WITH CLIPBOARDS AND DO SURVEYS AS PEOPLE WERE WALKING IN THE GATE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] MY PHONE[LAUGHTER]
>> YES. THAT WAS JUST A PIECE OF INFORMATION.
>> I WONDER IF THEY COULD TRACK IT WITH IT OFF OR NOT.
>> ACTUALLY, I WATCHED A SHOW ON THAT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO.
>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE APPS YOU HAVE RUNNING IN THE BACK OR SOMETHING, I HAVE NO IDEA.
>> YOU CAN GET POKEMON GO OR SOMETHING. [LAUGHTER]
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>> YEAH. OKAY, WHAT ARE WE ON NOW?
>> PAGE 18, WHICH IS COMMUNITY EVENTS.
COULD YOU JUST WAS TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY- [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH. BECAUSE THE COMMENTS THAT WE JUST SAW ON FACEBOOK SURROUNDING THE FIREWORKS AND ALL THAT, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND SO YOU'LL KNOW THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> [INAUDIBLE] TAXPAYER-FUNDED. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY [INAUDIBLE] TAXPAYER-FUNDED.
>> THESE EVENTS THAT ARE ON THIS PAGE FOR FUND 11 ARE FUNDED FROM MARKET DAY'S REVENUE.
YOU HAVE THE MAYOR'S APPRECIATION DINNER FOR BOARDS IN COMMISSION.
YOU HAVE CONCERTS IN THE PARK.
YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM FESTIVAL FIREWORKS AND YOU HAVE SOME MARKET DAYS EXPENSE, BUT I RARELY TAKE IT OUT OF THERE.
THE HEART OF CHRISTMAS IS A GIFT TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT A GENERAL FUND EVENT.
>> THIS YEAR IN 2020, WE DIDN'T HAVE MARKET DAYS IN MARCH OR NOVEMBER.
THE REVENUES THAT WE RECEIVED FOR MARKET DAY LAST WERE NOVEMBER 2019 PAYING FOR THE MARCH SHOW THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
I'VE ADDED A SHOW IN SEPTEMBER TO GIVE THEM TWO SHOWS THIS YEAR.
IN SEPTEMBER THEY'LL BE USING THE MONEY THAT THEY PAID IN NOVEMBER OF 2019.
THE FIRST REVENUES THAT WE'LL RECOUP WILL BE THE ONES THAT WE GET IN SEPTEMBER FOR THE NOVEMBER SHOW OF THIS YEAR, JUST TO GET YOU-ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
IT'S GENERALLY ABOUT $54,000 A SHOW.
IF YOU SEE THE REVENUE LINE ON FREED UP FIREWORKS, WE USED TO SEEK SPONSORSHIP.
I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH SPONSORSHIP.
PROBABLY COVID AND EVERYTHING ELSE DID A NUMBER ON A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE DOING IT THAT WAY, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN AS MUCH AS $10-12,000 FOR THAT EVENT IN SPONSORSHIP.
THOSE ARE YOUR REVENUE STREAMS FOR FUND 11.
THAT'S HOW WE FUND THOSE EVENTS.
>> I'M IN THE [INAUDIBLE] PAGE 20 AT THE BOTTOM [INAUDIBLE].
A FEW MORE DIFFERENT THINGS THERE LIKE THE FATHER CHRISTMAS, AND A CONCERT IN THE PARK, THE BOARD APPRECIATION DINNER AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
>> THIS CONCERT IN THE PARK BUDGET IS FOR BOTH BRINGING POPSICLE.
>> I WOULD JUST EVEN HAVE SOME EVENT.
>> EIGHT SHOWS FOR 40 GRAND. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
>> YEAH. I GENERALLY SPEND ABOUT 1,800-3,500 FOR THE MUSICAL GROUPS.
THIS YEAR WE HAVE THE ADDED EXPENSE OF THE STAGE.
WE WERE ABLE TO CONTRACT WITH THIS COMPANY BECAUSE WE WORKED WITH HIM FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO LET US KEEP IT UP SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY TO TAKE IT DOWN AND PUT IT UP EACH WEEK, BUT THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 4,500 THAT WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY HAVE, BUT WE'RE STILL DOING GOOD.
THAT'S ALL L HAVE ON FUND 11 IF YOU-ALL DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
>> THE LAST ONE IN THE LAST PAGE ON THE SPECIAL HERE.
>> PAGE 65 [INAUDIBLE] 11,000 A LITTLE MORE THAN 10 IN TERMS OF THE EXPENSES.
>> THE ONLY THING ON THAT ONE IS THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION.
I KNOW JOHN HAS BROUGHT IT UP THE PAST.
IS IT TIME FOR US TO BE LOOKING AT OTHER AREAS BECAUSE WE DID THE THIRD GRANT? A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE THIRD GRANT WHICH IS AWESOME, BUT TO JOHN'S POINT, HE'S OFTEN SAID WE NEED TO GIVE OTHER PARTIES AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THE 35 CORRIDOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S UP TO YOU AS FAR AS WHAT WE DO WITH THAT.
IT'S A REVITALIZATION FUND, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH IT. [NOISE]
>> MARTIN, DO YOU AGREE WITH ME? [LAUGHTER]
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>> I MEAN, I AGREE WITH WHAT MARTHA HAS JUST STATED.
>> IF YOU AGREE WITH MARTHA THEN YOU AGREE WITH ME.
>> ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC WITH MOVING FUNDS, YES.
>> NOW, A 35 [INAUDIBLE] OUT. I'LL ATTEST TO THAT.
ANYTHING WE CAN DO WITH THAT, BUT IT'S JUST REALLY LITTLE FOR THAT.
>> PART OF OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CHAMBER IS ABOUT SUSPENSION EXPANSION AND GETTING DATA BACK.
THAT THEY CAN COME TO US AND SAY, "HERE ARE SOME OF THE NEEDS IN THE CITY," AND WE CAN DEVELOP THEM INTO PROGRAMS, FUNDING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
>> WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING WITH THAT FUND THIS YEAR, SO THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR, SO REALLY THAT'S IT.
>> I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING A MURAL PROGRAM.
>> YES. THAT IS IN THE BUDGET.
WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING WITH THE MURAL PROGRAM.
I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LORENZO IN THE PAST.
>> I SAW HIM LAST WEEK. HE WAS SO GLAD.
HE'S WORKING ON ARTWORK FOR THE VISITORS' CENTER RIGHT NOW, THE KIOSK OVER HERE.
I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE RENDERINGS AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SUPER COOL, BUT HE'S ALSO VERY BUSY, SO WE'LL GET GOING ON THAT AND START WORKING ON THE MURAL AND PUBLIC ART POLICY THAT WE'LL BRING TO YOU AS WELL AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON PUBLIC ART.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MARTHA?
>> I THINK IT'S IRONIC WHEN I USED TO DO IT I USED TO GET IN TROUBLE.
>> ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WAS THE HOT FUNDS.
ARE WE WORKING SOMETHING OUT FOR LIGHTING FOR SOFTBALL FIELDS SO PAUL CAN HELP THEM OUT WITH THAT? I'M NOT SAYING PAY FOR THE WHOLE THING, BUT I MEAN, WHAT DO THEY QUOTE, LIKE $100,000 FOR LIGHTS?
>> WELL, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT FIELD MAINTENANCE, AND SHE KEPT IT THE SAME AND THAT WAS OUR OPPORTUNITY AT THAT POINT.
>> TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION ABOUT HOT FUNDS, THE ONLY WAY THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO USE HOT FUNDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THAT IS IF WE NEEDED IT IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT A TOURNAMENT, BUT NOT BUILDING A FIELD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IN THE PAST WHEN WE NEEDED TO PUT LIGHT ON FIELD 5 FOR THE WEEKEND FOR STATE TOURNAMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHEN I TALKED WITH THE ATTORNEYS IN AUSTIN ABOUT, "I KNOW WE'RE SPLITTING HAIRS HERE, BUT WE NEED THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS.
WHAT CAN WE DO?" HE WAS LIKE, "YOU CAN BRING IN RENTED SCOREBOARDS.
YOU CAN BRING IN LIGHT STANDS, YOU CAN BRING IN FIELD CONDITIONING.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO IMPLEMENT THE TOURNAMENT, BUT YET YOU'RE NOT BUILDING A NEW."
>> YOU'RE NOT PUTTING IT PERMANENT.
>> WITH THE FIELD, ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THE FIELD CONDITIONER UP AFTER THE TOURNAMENT? NO. YOU WOULD TAKE THE LIGHT STAND BACK AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> WE'RE GIVING FEEDBACK HERE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] JOHN WAS THERE. FIRST OF ALL, WE SHOULD APPLY THE MAKING EARLIER.
I GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE WITHIN ADFA AS WELL AS THE STATE DISTRICT TOURNAMENT HOLDERS, WHICH APPARENTLY IS A RATHER LARGE DISTRICT WITH FINALS SEEING GIRLS FROM VICTORIA TO BEAUMONT UP TO THE WOODLANDS, SO IT'S QUITE SIZABLE.
THE DIRECTOR ALSO SAID THEY WOULD BE COMING BACK FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS AT DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS INCLUDING A U8.
EXCLUDING, AGAIN, THE RAIN OUT OF IT, YOU WOULD EXPECT ALMOST DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF TEAMS THAT APPEARED IN U6.
THIS TIME WAS ABOUT 23 U6, YOU COULD PROBABLY ALMOST EXPECT 45 U8 TEAMS BECAUSE U8 IS THE PROMINENT AGE FOR EACH GIRL'S SOFTBALL.
AFTER THAT I GUESS THEY START TO WASH OUT, I DON'T KNOW.
THEY CAN START BEING COMPETITIVE OR WHATEVER, SO IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT COMMITTING THREE YEARS TO THE CITY.
IF WE CAN GET THREE YEARS, WHY CAN'T WE TURN IT TO SIX THEN NINE, TILL IT BECOMES AN ANNUAL EVENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF ANYBODY DID A STUDY ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT I HOPE.
I MEAN I WAS TOLD THAT WE LITERALLY HAD TO RESCHEDULE GAMES SATURDAY MORNING BECAUSE THERE
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WEREN'T ON ENOUGH HOTEL ROOMS FOR TEAMS TO COME IN FRIDAY NIGHT AND SO THEY HAD A DRIVE IN SATURDAY MORNING.>> FROM WHEREVER THEY WERE COMING FROM.
>> OR WHATEVER. THOSE ONES THAT WERE MAKING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TRIPS.
IT WOULD BE AN ECONOMIC, ACTUALLY, BOOM TO THE CITY IF WE GO AHEAD AND INVEST IN THOSE LIGHTS, THAT'S JUST ONE SAY TOURNAMENT NOW.
THERE IS GENERALLY FROM THE END OF MAY PROBABLY EVEN THROUGH JULY DEPENDING ON THE YEAR, YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE TOURNAMENTS ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND AND THEY'RE NOT A BIG GRAVITAS OF THE STATE TOURNAMENT.
YOU COULD STILL HAVE 50 TEAMS OUT THERE.
>> CAN YOU JUST [INAUDIBLE] SOME SPORT.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO PITCH TOWARDS US GOING WITH AN IDEA OF SOMEWHERE LOOKING INTO AVLC MONEY.
>> BUT WE WROTE THAT TO AVLC LAST MEETING.
HERE'S THE THREE-AND-A-HALF MILLION WORTH OF STUFF THAT'S NOT GETTING DONE.
WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO? IT WAS 56,000 OR SOMETHING WORTH A COUPLE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE.
MAYBE I DON'T EVEN FEEL IT SOMETIMES.
AGAIN. I WOULD PREFER WE GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE A FILL A POT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> I WOULDN'T. LET'S NOT BITE OFF MORE THEN.
LET'S JUST GO WITH GOOD UNTIL FIVE.
>> ON THE SAME ONE WE'RE DOING A CONTRACT WITH THEM ON SOMETHING, WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD.
>> UNTIL YOU BUY THE LAND. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION, THEN I'LL HAVE STAFF PUT IT ON AGENDA ITEM TO GO TO AVLC AND SAY, "THERE'S YOUR DIRECTION."
>> MY DIRECTION IS THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL GET BACK EVERYTHING AT THAT TIME. [NOISE] I MEAN, IT DOESN'T PLAY OUT.
>> I AGREED, IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S PEOPLE WANTING TO MOVE TO ANGLETON BECAUSE THEY ENJOY [INAUDIBLE].
>> YOUR POINT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF IMPACTS WE HAD? I CAN FEEL [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THAT INFORMATION.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I WAS TOLD BY MULTIPLE PEOPLE
>> [OVERLAPPING] AND OTHER RESTAURANTS [OVERLAPPING]
>> I TALK TO PEOPLE FROM ORANGE, FROM [INAUDIBLE] SPLENDORA AND THE WOODLANDS I TALK TO, AND DEER PARK AND THEY ALL WERE EATING AT OUR RESTAURANTS, THEY LOVED THE PLACE, THEY LOVE THE STORIES.
I HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
>> I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT I'VE MENTORED TOURNAMENTS THROUGHOUT, AND NOTHING WRONG.
THERE ARE NICE FACILITIES EVERYWHERE ELSE, BUT WE HAVE THE NATURAL [INAUDIBLE] WHICH NORMALLY HAS A PLAYGROUND BUT IT HAS AN ENORMOUS SHADED STRUCTURE.
WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING, IT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE TO THE WORLD THAT YOU CAN HIDE IN THE SHADE FOR AN HOUR OR TWO, IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE AND PEOPLE APPRECIATE THAT.
>> WE DID PROVIDE FLAG BAGS, AND TOURNAMENT LINES [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, I HEARD ABOUT THOSE AND GETTING IT OUT OF THE OFFICE.
>> WE DID SUPPORT THEM THAT WAY AND ALSO PORTABLE RESTROOMS.
>> ALL THAT. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT [INAUDIBLE] DID FOR THAT TOURNAMENT.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM ARTHUR? [OVERLAPPING]
>> ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? THEY APPEAR ANYTHING? NO? OKAY.
>> YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME TALKING ABOUT YOU, DID YOU HEAR THAT PART?
>> I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY BEFORE JASON STARTS BECAUSE IT WASN'T HIS IDEA TO BE LAST, WE JUST HAPPENED TO PUT HIM LAST.
>> I KNOW WHERE THAT $35,000 IS.
>> WE HAVE A GUN REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM AND WHEN THE MONEY IS PAID BACK, IT GOES INTO REVENUE.
THE EXPENSE SIDE, WHEN WE GIVE YOU A LOAN, THOSE NUMBERS OUT OF BALANCE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A GAIN AND LOSS.
WE JUST LOAN THE MONEY, THEY PAY YOU BACK.
BUT ME BEING CONSERVATIVE TO $8,500, I BUDGETED FOR 8500 AND REVENUE.
LOOPY BEING CONSERVATIVE, IT WAS 8500, BUT THEY SHOULD BE THOROUGH, BUT IT WAS 40 WE BUDGETED 45,000 LAST YEAR, SO I'M GOING TO BUDGET 45,000 NEXT YEAR.
THOSE NUMBERS SHOULD TIE, BUT RIGHT NOW HE'S GOT AN EXPENSE OF 45 AND I GOT A REVENUE OF 8500.
SO I NEED TO RAISE MY REVENUE BY 365,
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WHICH WAS ACTUALLY $35 THOUSAND JUST TO MAKE THEM BALANCE.WE'RE ALREADY IMBALANCED WITH THAT, 80 MINUS THE 45 FROM MARK AND THAT 30.
WE DON'T NEED TO GET IT OUT IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
>> WE ALREADY LAUNCHED [INAUDIBLE] FOR OUR WEBSITE.
>> NOT LIKE THAT. I THINK PROBABLY THE BIG THING CHANGES.
AGAIN, I'M ASKING FOR MY EMPLOYEE, THIRD YEAR.
>> DO YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR HE ASKED FOR IT BECAUSE THE TIGHT BUDGET AND ALL THAT STUFF? WE TOLD HIM," NO, " BUT AS WE GROW, EMPLOYEES, THE WORKLOAD GROWS, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE ADDITIONAL SECURITY REQUIREMENTS, HYBRID SECURITIES HIGH ON THE LIST OF CHALLENGES AND WE NEED TO GROW THE ORGANIZATION.
>> THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS, WE'VE BUILT 14 YEARS WORTH OF TECHNOLOGY, INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT TAKES MORE PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN IT ONCE YOU'RE 14 YEARS THEN, VERSUS WHEN YOU'RE JUST STARTING OUT.
I KNOW THAT WHEN I GET THAT THE POSITION IS SET TO START IN APRIL WITH ALL OF THE OTHER POSITIONS, THEN I GUESS I'LL TALK ABOUT THE PIP, THE SERVER, AND THE NETWORKING EQUIPMENT.
>> IT IS ON THE LIST THAT WE TOOK OUT, SO WE MIGHT WANT TO START WITH THAT ON PAGE 3.
WE TOOK OUT THE 65, 253, WHICH IS THE NET WORTH INFRASTRUCTURE AND HARDWARE.
WE TOOK OUT AND RESTORED AND REPLACED, SO WE TOOK $45,000 OUT OF RT TO MAKE EVERYTHING BALANCED.
WE TRIED TO SPREAD IT AMONGST ALL DEPARTMENTS SO THAT NOT ONE DEPARTMENT WAS GIVEN ALL THE MONEY, SO IT WAS 200 EACH, AND RT GAVE 145.
BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROJECT AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED TO DO.
>> YEAH. WHAT'S HAPPENED IS, THE STATE REQUIREMENT FOR NETWORKING HAVE BECOME MORE STRINGENT, CYBER SECURITY BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF AN ISSUE AND SO WE NEED TO FURTHER SEPARATE THE NETWORK BETWEEN CITY HALL AND TV SERVICES.
TO DO THAT, THEY WANT EVERYTHING TO SEPARATE SERVERS AND BASICALLY WE HAVE TO DUPLICATE WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
WELL, WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS ALSO THE STRUCTURE AND SO IT'S A "PICK AND CHOOSE YOUR BATTLES." ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND OUT AFTER I DID A BUDGET WAS, WHEN I WENT TO RENEW OUR CONTRACT FOR MAINTENANCE ON OUR GOOD THING SERVERS IS THAT, BECAUSE OF THE CHIPS SHORTAGE AND THE MANUFACTURER NOT BEING ABLE TO GUARANTEE REPLACEMENT HARDWARE, THEY'RE NOT RENEWING SUPPORT.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT AND THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN PUT IN THE BUDGET AT ALL TO CONSIDER REPLACED THINGS.
WE SHOULD FINE ANOTHER YEAR, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT NEXT YEAR, BUT THINGS ARE STARTING TO PILE UP AS FAR AS TECHNOLOGY BETWEEN THE [INAUDIBLE] COMPLIANCE AND THAT ALSO AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
>> WELL THEN, THE AWPA UPDATE WE ALL HAD, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET SOME PROJECTS OUT OF THAT TO INSURE THE REQUIREMENTS PROSPECTS.
>> WHAT IF YOU GO TO A CLOUD-BASED SYSTEM AND GET THE SERVERS?
>> THE HARDWARE COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PAYING FOR.
>> YOU PAY HARDWARE COSTS UPFRONT ONCE OR YOU PAY MONTHLY? AND THEN MONTHLY IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE, LIKE WITH LOOPY AND THE BODY CAMERAS, THEY HAVE A MONTHLY POWER-BASED OPTION, BUT THE COST IS ASTRONOMICAL.
>> WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT MONTHLY, YOU'RE DOING AN ANNUAL CONTRACT.
>> WELL YEAH, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY WHETHER THEY SAY IT $1,200 A MONTH PER CAMERA OR WHATEVER, FOR CAR AND BODY THEN TIMES HOW MANY? TIMES 12 MONTHS. THE COST IS GOING TO BE THE SAME, WHETHER IT'S A YEAR CONTRACT, YOU PAY ALL OF THE YEAR AT ONCE OR YOU PAY MONTHLY.
>> I'M NOT A FAN OF CLOUD-BASED TOO BECAUSE WHEN YOUR INTERNET IS DOWN, THEN EVERYTHING IS DOWN AND WE DID JUST GET OUR COMCAST BACKUP CONNECTION UP AND RUNNING, SO THAT WOULD HELP WITH THAT.
IT'S CURRENTLY NOT PROVEN BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOWN WHEN AT&T GOES DOWN, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE? I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF CLOUD SERVICES.
THE FREE STATE IS GOING TO BE CHEAPER BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO BUY THE HARDWARE,
[06:30:03]
BUT IN TURN YOU'RE BUYING A SERVICE THAT POSSIBLY IT'S HARDWARE IF NOT MORE.I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT GOING TO A CLOUD-BASED SOLUTION, BUT THEN MOST OF THE CLOUD-BASED SOLUTIONS ARE BASED ON AMAZON WEB SERVICES AND WE SAW AMAZON WEB SERVICES SHUT DOWN PART OF THEIR WEBSITE COMPLETELY BECAUSE THEY DECIDED TO.
WHAT'S TO STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT'S DOING?
>> JASON, CAN YOU GIVE US THE NUMBERS BETWEEN GETTING A HARDWARE AND WHAT AN ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION WOULD BE?
I WILL HAVE TO GET SOME QUOTES ON CLOUD SERVICES, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY WE CAN DO THAT.
>> I'M NOT SAYING [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT ALL THE OPTIONS AND I'M ALWAYS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST VALUE LONG TERM FOR US.
EVEN WITH THE ORIGINAL QUOTE THAT I GOT FOR THE SERVER, FOR PROCEDURES, COMPLIANCE, CAME BACK AT $100,000.
IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN AT COST PER YEAR, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $12,000-$13,000 A YEAR OVER THE COST OF 7-10 YEARS.
THAT'S PRETTY PRICEY ESPECIALLY FOR ONE DEPARTMENT.
I DO LIKE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING TO END UP BEING THE BEST VALUE ALTERNATIVE SO THEN WHEN I WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND WE GOT THAT KNOCKED DOWN [NOISE] TO AROUND THE $80,000 MARK.
I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY TWEAK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND GET THEM [NOISE] DOWN FROM EVEN LOWER BUT WE'LL LOOK AT ALL THE OPTIONS AND THEN WE'LL SEE.
I'M JUST NOT A FAN OF CLOUD SERVICES.
ESPECIALLY VIDEO IN THE CLOUD, JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF BANDWIDTH THAT THAT TAKES ALONE.
>> AS WE GROW, YOU'VE GOT THE DISPATCHED PROJECT, WE HAD TO MOVE THE CORD OVER TO PD WHILE WE DID THE RENOVATION.
WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THE BIDS IN FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FIBER PROJECT.
JASON'S RUN AROUND DOING ALL THE TECHNICAL STAFF, HELPED US AND IT'S NOW WHATEVER.
I NEED TO GIVE HIM MORE THAN THE DIRECTOR ROLE AND THAT'S WHY GETTING HIM ANOTHER EMPLOYEE IS IMPORTANT SO THEY CAN DO THE STICKY STUFF AND BE A MANAGER AND DIRECTOR AND ALL THAT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] MORE OF A BIT OF TECHNOLOGY-BASED.
>> I THINK WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS.
>> RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] ABSOLUTELY.
THE ONLY OTHER THING, [NOISE] THE EMAIL SERVICES WENT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED EMPLOYEES AND SO WAS ADDITIONAL MAILBOXES AND ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES, BUT WE SHOULD BE ON TRACK WITH THAT NOW.
>> IF YOU-ALL REMEMBER, WE TRANSFERRED TO THE CHARGING SYSTEM ACCESS.
>> YOU CAN WORK YOUR PD AND PARKS AND REC AND A LOT OF OTHER PLACES.
>> THAT'S A SYSTEM THAT CAN GROW WITH THIS AS WELL.
[NOISE] JOHAN, YOU JUST WENT OVER.
>> YEAH. THIS IS WHAT I WENT OVER HERE FOR THE COMPUTING STORAGE.
THEY'RE JUST PART OF THE NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE THERE AS WELL.
>> NO. IT IS WHATEVER LINE YOU TEND TO BELONG. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT JASON CREATED.
>> WHEN I WAS READING, I WAS LIKE, YEAH.
>> WHATEVER LINE YOU ARE, IT MAKES THE POINT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THEY FELL ON BLUE LINERS. IF YOU WANT YOU CAN CLICK ON SOMETHING ELSE THAT SHOWS THEM HOW IT WORKS.
THEN FOR PPS I'VE EDITED IT 11/9.
THIS YEAR'S AS A HOST IS ANOTHER PART OF OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WILL BE REPLACING.
THERE'S THREE SERVERS, [NOISE] REPLACING ONE THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY ANOTHER ONE IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
THAT KEEPS THAT HARDWARE FRESH, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE.
[NOISE] THAT WOULD BE $80,000 TO DO REPLACEMENTS.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE A TRUSTED DOCUMENT BEFORE THE MOVE.
>> BEFORE IT WILL WORK [LAUGHTER]
[06:35:01]
[OVERLAPPING] I JUST THOUGHT THERE WILL BE SOMETHING TO REPLACE THE SINGLE WEBCAM IN THIS ROOM WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MORE COMMERCIAL AND CAN ZOOM IN ON WHO'S TALKING AT THE TIME.>> SHOULDN'T SWAG IT BE UNDER HIS BUDGET, NOT THE SECRETARY'S BUDGET?
>> IT DOESN'T MATTER THEY'RE IN WHICH DEPARTMENT.
>> IT AND TECHNOLOGY. [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT WE JUST PUT IT ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT MEETINGS.
>> COUNCIL MEETINGS AND MEETING MANAGEMENT.
>> I'M NOT A HOST AT BEING WHEREVER IT NEEDS TO BE.
I DID LOOK INTO THAT, THE FLAGGY THING, AND WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT I THINK FOR 50 MEETINGS, WHICH IS AROUND 36,000 OR SO.
BUT THEN OF COURSE, ANY ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WE HAVE ON TOP OF THAT, WE WOULD PAY PER MEETING FOR THAT.
>> THAT MIGHT HAVE JUST HELPED PAY FOR ONE OF YOUR ITEMS IN YOUR IT DEPARTMENT.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
>> FIT'S AND THEN GO. [OVERLAPPING] I LIKE IT.
PRETTY HAVING IT HERE TOO. [NOISE]
>> WELL, WE COME BACK BY TUESDAY.
>> YEAH, WE CAN BRING THE BILL BY TUESDAY.
I JUST SAW THE ANNUAL BUDGET [NOISE] FOR LAST YEAR, SO 75.
WE JUST NEED TO REACH THE CHAIRMAN.
>> THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S THE EQUIPMENT PLUS THE SERVICE.
>> I THINK THAT BILL IS FOR THIS YEAR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S NOT EVERY YEAR. IT'S NOT FIRM.
>> I WAS WATCHING [OVERLAPPING] THE ACCOUNTS, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE.
[NOISE] I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS YELLOW BEARING THE [INAUDIBLE].
[NOISE] [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]
>> I RECOMMEND WE END THE SESSION FOR TODAY.
WE GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER SMALLER DEPARTMENTS ON TUESDAY, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND DO OUT THAT I THINK WE'VE CAPTURED, WE CAN COME BACK [NOISE] TO YOU AND SAY WHATEVER.
>> ANY QUESTIONS CONFERENCE OR CHRIS? [NOISE] [OVERLAPPING]
>> JASON, THE INTERNET CONNECTION OUT TO THE SERVER CLAIM, IS THAT GOING TO CARRY THE BUDGET CARRYING THESE DATA SYSTEM ALSO?
>> THIS DATA SYSTEM WILL RUN ON THAT, AS WELL AS OUR VOICE AND DATA.
>> THANK YOU. [NOISE] SO IT IS JUST NOT WI-FI NOW?
>> RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST USING A DEMO ON INTERNET CONNECTION THROUGH A SPOTLIGHT, AND WE HAVE A VPN CONNECTION THROUGH THAT LINE.
[NOISE] WE ARE LIMITED TO THE FLOW BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THEN.
BUT ONCE WE GET THE FIBER, WE'LL EASILY BE ABLE TO ADD THREE CAMERAS.
THEY'RE ON OUR PHONE SYSTEM NOW, BUT IT'S SLUGGY THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING ACROSS THE VPN.
BUT WE CAN JUST BUILD OUT ALL THOSE SERVICES ONCE WE GET THE FIRST LAYER.
>> THEIR TWO SECURITY OUT THERE IS HORRIBLE.
YOU CAN'T PUT UP THE CAMERAS THAT CAN BE CONNECTED AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
>> BEFORE I GOT THIS, ADJOURNED 3:33.
>> [OVERLAPPING] GREAT JOB, THOUGH.
[APPLAUSE]
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.