Jul 12, 2021 City Council

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CITY OF ANGLETON, REGULAR, SPECIAL, NOT REGULAR OUR CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING DATED

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.

WE HAVE ONE FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S ON VACATION TONIGHT.

SO GOING CALLS TO ORDER OUR FIRST ITEM FOR BUSINESS.

[1. Discussion and possible action to award a contract to DL Meacham, LP, with approved modifications and authorize the City Manager to execute the agreement upon legal review.]

SO THIS JUST FEEDS RIGHT INTO OUR LAST CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE HAVE NOW APPROVED THE CUTS AND BID ALTERNATES.

WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER, WHICH IS THE DL MEACHAM LP.

SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT REVISIONS TO THAT AGREEMENT.

WE HAVEN'T BEGUN NEGOTIATIONS, BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, THIS WILL AUTHORIZE US TO INFORM THEM THEY WILL BE AWARDED THE BID. BUT WE HAVE SOME VALUE ENGINEERING CONSIDERATIONS AND SOME POTENTIAL OTHER BUDGET CUTS THAT WE'D LIKE THEM TO CONSIDER BEFORE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT.

SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR THIS EVENING IS THAT CITY COUNCIL AWARD THE CONTRACT TO DL MEACHAM WITH APPROVED MODIFICATIONS.

AND WE'RE REQUESTING SOME OF THOSE REDUCTIONS AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT UPON LEGAL REVIEW.

WHY CAN'T THIS COME BACK TO US? [INAUDIBLE] IT CERTAINLY CAN.

WHAT I WOULD MINIMALLY RECOMMEND IS THAT WE JUST NOTE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES ALLOW STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD, INFORM DL MEACHAM TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS.

I'M FINE WITH THAT. I JUST I WANT TO SEE IT COME BACK BEFORE.

TO SEE THE AGREEMENT. SEE THOSE CUTS.

SURE. [INAUDIBLE] WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. WHERE WE FUND IT FROM AND HOW THAT THAT KIND OF GOES TO WHAT [INAUDIBLE] WAS REFERRING TO. JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE.

NOT A PROBLEM. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE, WE AWARD THE CONTRACT TO DL MEACHAM LP WITH APPROVE MODIFICATIONS AND AUTHORIZE CITY STAFF TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT UPON LEGAL REVIEW AND COUNCIL REVIEW.

SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT TAKEN BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[2. Discussion and possible action on an interlocal agreement with Brazoria County for the Brazoria County Courthouse improvements.]

MR. WALTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS IS THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT DETAILS WHO'S DOING WHAT ABOUT WHAT AND AS FAR AS THE COURTHOUSE EXPANSION PROJECT GOES.

THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PACKET HAS BEEN VETTED THROUGH THE STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY. WHAT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, SO IT'S THE DOCUMENT THAT'S READY TO GO. THAT BEING SAID, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

OK.

THANK YOU, SIR. GUYS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE COUNTY STAFF HERE AS WELL, IF YOU LIKE TO ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF LIGHT TONIGHT AS FAR AS THE AUDIO.

GENTLEMEN, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION OR CLARIFICATION, THE ENGINEERS ESTIMATE OR PROBABLE COST FOR THE PROJECT IS SOME EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TIED TO THAT NUMBER.

WE'RE TIED TO THE PROJECT THAT'S GOT TO BE DONE TO DEFINE PROJECT.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FOR THE AGREEMENT.

YES. THE COUNTY'S, THAT'S AN ESTIMATE, BUT WE'LL BE PAYING FOR THE ACTUAL COST.

OK. OK, SO SOMETIMES YOU PUT A SPECIFIC NUMBER TO THE PENNY.

SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO HOLD ON TO THAT.

ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT.

YES SIR. COSTS ARE SO VOLATILE.

OK, MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHO'S WHO'S DESIGNING THE FACILITIES THAT ON THE STREET AND DRAINAGE AND WATER AND SANITARY SEWER? WE WERE PROBABLY GOING TO GIVE THEM HDR AS FAR AS THE DESIGN, I THINK THEY CAN GET THAT DONE AND DO THAT DESIGN.

OK, WELL, I JUST QUESTION BECAUSE THAT BURDEN FALLS ON THE COUNTY ALSO.

MY UNDERSTANDING YES SIR.

MAN YOU'RE EASY. I AM EASY.

CHENANGO STREET IS MY UNDERSTANDING, CHENANGO STREET IS PROPOSED TO BE CLOSED FROM THE WEST RIGHT OF WAY LINE OF LIVE OAK TO THE NORTH RIGHT OF WAY LINE OF LOCUST.

SO THAT THOSE INTERSECTIONS CAN STILL FUNCTION.

YES, SIR. WE'RE JUST CLOSING DOWN THE CROSS TRAFFIC UNDERNEATH WHAT WE'LL CALL THE SKY

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THE AGREEMENT REFERS TO A TEMPORARY DRAINAGE EASEMENT WITH THE EXISTING STORM SEWER FOR IN CHENANGO STREET UNTIL THE TIME THAT THE ARCOLA STREET STORM SEWER IS CONSTRUCTED.

THAT'S. THAT'S THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO GET BURDENED WITH.

PUT BEING PUT ON A TIMELINE, IT SAYS YOU GOT TO PUT THAT STORM SEWER IN ARCOLA STREET WITHIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD HOLD UP ANYTHING, BUT WE GET CITY GET STRAPPED FINANCIALLY.

I DON'T WANT TO GET COMMITTED TO A TIMELINE EXPECTED FOR THE CITY TO GO DO THEIR STORM SEWER WORK WHEN.

IT'S GOING TO COST US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO THAT, SO.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY TIMELINE OR REFERENCE IN THE [INAUDIBLE].

NO, IT'S NOT. I DON'T.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S NOT IMPLIED THAT, NO, NOBODY'S ACTUALLY DISCUSSED A TIMELINE FOR THE ARCOLA PROJECT.

THERE IS NO. THERE'S NO ANTICIPATION ON THE COUNTY'S PART [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, I WANT TO READ SOMETHING INTO THE DOCUMENT THAT'S NOT THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S NOT FAIR. [INAUDIBLE] THAT RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WIDEN IT OUT. THAT.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PORTION OF [INAUDIBLE], CORRECT? JUST FROM CEDAR TO LIVE OAK.

YES, SIR.

BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT BUYING ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY [INAUDIBLE] WIDENING THE STREET, THOUGH, THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT.

JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS. SO THE RIGHT OF WAY'S ALREADY THERE? YEAH, TELEPHONE POLE TO TELEPHONE [INAUDIBLE].

TELEPHONE POLES, ACTUALLY, WHERE THE STREET SHOULD BE.

OK. YEAH, NOW THAT THE HOUSE IS DOWN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF [INAUDIBLE].

[INAUDIBLE] 70 FEET OF STREET RIGHT OF WAY.

IT DOESN'T LOOK IT UP THERE, LOOK KIND OF NARROW.

I ALWAYS THOUGH THERE HAD TO BE A RIGHT PF WAY ACQUISITION.

BUT I GUESS IT'S PART OF IT SO [INAUDIBLE].

THEY ARE SO ARE YOU GOING TO GO CONCRETE OR ASPHALT? I BELIEVE THE ESTIMATES IN CONCRETE.

YEAH, [INAUDIBLE] GOING TO DO CONCRETE.

MATT, CAN YOU CAN YOU GIVE US THE NEXT STEPS WHEN YOU WANT TO CLOSE CHENANGO, THE DEMOLITION OF THE CHURCH? WELL, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE DEMOLITION OF THE CHURCH ACTUALLY TOMORROW, THE COURT SHOULD BE IT SHOULD BE APPROVING THE FIRST PHASE TASK ORDER, OUR PROJECT WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A NUMBER OF PHASE TASK ORDERS. AND PART OF THAT IS JUST ONCE AGAIN GOING BACK TO WHICH WE DISCUSSED A LITTLE EARLIER. THAT Y'ALL DISCUSSED EARLIER THERE'S A LOT OF VOLATILITY IN PRICING RIGHT NOW, SO IN AN EFFORT TO REALLY MAXIMIZE THE OR MINIMIZE THE RISK ON THE COUNTY.

WE'RE GOING TO DO A PHASE TASK ORDER PROCESS SO THE FIRST PHASE TASK ORDER IS THE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT AND DEMOLITION OF THE CHURCH.

AND THAT'S GETTING APPROVED AT COURT TOMORROW MORNING, HOPEFULLY.

YOU KNOW IF THE COURT APPROVES IT. THAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL TOMORROW MORNING AT COURT.

THAT SHOULD THE ABATEMENT WILL START RIGHT AFTER, LET'S SEE, I THINK JULY 27 AND WE PLAN THAT THE CHURCH WILL COME DOWN FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

THE SECOND PHASE TASK ORDER, WHICH IS THE BEGINNING OF THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, I'M LOOKING OVER GERALD.

CUZ GERALD MIGHT HAVE A, NO, FOURTH QUARTER THIS YEAR AS FAR AS THE SECOND PHASE TASK ORDER, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL START OF THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

CORRECT? YEAH FOURTH QUARTER [INAUDIBLE]. SO YOU'LL START SEEING THAT GO UP.

CAN I ASK ABOUT THE RECONSTRUCTION OF LIVE OAK BETWEEN YOUR PARKING LOT AND THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING? ARE Y'ALL DOING ANYTHING WITH THAT? ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE IT IN CURRENT EXISTING STATE THAT IT'S IN? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THOSE EXACT DETAILS YET.

I KNOW THE JUDGE AND I HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DOING SOME STREET ENHANCEMENTS

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THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE FINDING HERE.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT OF ROAD, THE ROAD AND BRIDGE BUDGET.

IN FUTURE YEARS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY, WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED.

BUT NO CLOSURES OR TEMPORARY CLOSURE.

OF THAT STREET, ALONG [INAUDIBLE].

NOT LONG TERM, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME CONSTRUCTION CLOSURES THAT WE'LL ASK FOR THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS WITH THE CITY ON.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY LONG TERM CLOSURES OF ANY OF THE ROADS.

AND WHEN WILL CHENANGO BE SHUT? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION TOO.

[INAUDIBLE] ON CONSTRUCTION START, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S WELL, WE'VE GOT TO START THAT SKYBRIDGE.

WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE THAT DONE, THAT SKYBRIDGE SHOULD BE THE SECOND THE THIRD PHASE TASK ORDER, [INAUDIBLE].

I WOULD ASSUME SOMETIME FIRST OR SECOND QUARTER NEXT YEAR.

JUST SHOOTING OFF, YOU KNOW, SHOOTING FROM THE HIP A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN PERMITTING FEES.

THAT'S ALL I SAW THAT IN HERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT PERFORM A SELF INSPECTION.

YES.

BUT ANY PERMIT FEES, YOU WILL BE PAYING TO THE CITY? YEAH, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THE STAFF'S PUT INTO THIS.

WE ARE GOING TO DO A SELF INSPECTION, SELF PERMITTING, BUT YOUR STAFF IS GOING TO STAY ENGAGED IN THE PROJECT.

WE WANT YOUR STAFF TO STAY ENGAGED IN THE PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT. YOU KNOW, IN THEM STAYING ENGAGED, THERE'S SOME COST OF THE CITY HAS THAT ARE REAL COST. WE PLAN ON PLAYING THE PERMIT FEES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERING THOSE COSTS THAT YOUR STAFF, SO YOUR STAFF CAN STAY ENGAGED AND DOESN'T.

FEEL PRESSURED ABOUT THAT.

I DID READ THE SPOT THAT SAYS, NO DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS REQUIRED AND NO DEVELOPMENT FEE WILL BE PAID. YEAH, SO THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, NOT A PERMIT FEE RIGHT, THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS SOMETHING THAT PER CODE.

I THINK ON THIS PROJECT, WE WORK UP TO BE ONE POINT ONE SIX MILLION DOLLARS [INAUDIBLE] IN SEVENTY FIVE. SO, YEAH.

OK, [INAUDIBLE].

ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE? WHAT'S Y'ALLS PLEASURE GENTLEMEN? MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE APPROVE THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY FOR THE BRAZORIA COUNTY COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS.

SECOND.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE YOU CAN STAY, WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. [LAUGHTER] NUMBER THREE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH

[3. Discussion and possible action on on a development agreement with Chris Peltier Homes for the Heritage Oaks Subdivision, Section 7.]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ON MARCH 30TH, WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING TO IRON OUT SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING DETAILS WITH DEVELOPMENTS IN PROGRESS AND IN TAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT WORKS FOR ALL SIDES, [INAUDIBLE] HAS BEEN EXCELLENT AT PLUGGING AWAY AT THESE AGREEMENTS.

SO TONIGHT WE HAVE THE HERITAGE OAK SECTION SEVEN, WHICH DOES CONTAIN ALL OF THE RECOMMENDED CREDITS, WHICH INVOLVES A 12 INCH WATER LINE AND AN EXEMPTION FROM PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

YEAH IT DID . [INAUDIBLE]

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AND MR. PELTIER HAS READ THIS AND APPROVES OF IT AND IS YOU YOU'VE REVIEWED IT AND YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT AND EVERYTHING? I DID [INAUDIBLE] . ARE THE LOT SIZES DEFINED IN THIS AGREEMENT? THE LOT SIZES ARE NOT. WITH THE LOTS ARE A MINIMUM 100 FOOT, 150 FOOT THE SMALLEST ONE.

IF YOU GO UP 50 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET [INAUDIBLE].

I SAW THAT. NO, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE SMALLER LOTS, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU, CAN YOU DO 110 BY 150? WE CAN AND SOME OF THOSE ARE BIGGER.

BUT, YOU KNOW [INAUDIBLE].

I'M JUST IN THAT MODE SO I JUST FIGURED.

WELL, IT'S FAIR.

SO DO WE HAVE A ZONING ORDINANCE THAT IS SEVEN POINT TWO THE HIGHEST WE GO OR DO WE GO UP TO TEN OR SOMETHING ELSE? YOU HAVE TO LOOK TO YOUR LEFT. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S IF YOU WANT.

BUT ONE THING I HAVE THERE, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 38 YEARS, I THINK MISTY MEADOWS WAS MY FIRST PROJECT.

I WAS INVOLVED IN IN 83, SO I THINK THIS IS MY 11TH PROJECT IN FRONT OF YOU.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE MISTY MEADOWS IS? THE STREET WAS GOING TO BE CALLED MISTY MEADOWS BOOTH, BUT AFTER I THINK IT'S A COUNCILMAN PASSED AWAY, HE CHANGED THE NAME TO ALEXANDER COURT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER [INAUDIBLE].

EIGHTY THREE PROBABLY GOING AROUND.

I WAS 13.

IN ROSEWOOD AND YOU KNOW, EVERY LOT SIZE OUT THERE, BUT HAVING BIGGER LOTS GIVES YOU FLEXIBILITY. IF THE MARKET CHANGES AND ALL YOUR LOTS ARE 40 FOOT, YOU'RE STUCK.

YOU CAN'T ADJUST. IF YOU I CAN BUILD DOWN A MINIMUM [INAUDIBLE] HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

I HAVE HOMES OUT THERE, 55 HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, SO WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY, HAVE THEM ALL THE SAME SUBDIVISIONS. SO I LIKE HAVING BIGGER LOTS BECAUSE I'M A BUILDER.

MOST OF YOU GUYS CAN BE DEVELOPERS.

NONE OF THEM ARE BUILDERS. BUT FROM MY STANDPOINT, HAVING BIGGER LOTS IF THE MARKET CHANGES, I CAN [INAUDIBLE]. I'M JUST BEING CONSISTENT.

I LIKE THEM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PLACE FOR SMALL LOTS.

I DID THE 50 FOOT IN ROSEWOOD.

THEY WERE GREAT. BUT THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT I HAD WAS A SMALL SIZE.

SO SECTIONS 2ND SECTION OF 60 FOOT LOTS.

AND I HAD 13 HOUSES UNDER CONTRACT BEFORE I EVEN BUILT THE FIRST HOUSE.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S HAD THAT KIND OF SUCCESS.

BUT YOU'D BE SURPRISED 50 FOOT TO 60 FOOT.

IT GIVES YOU FLEXIBILITY HOUSE PLANS.

WHEN YOU GO WITH THE SMALL LOT, YOU ONLY HAVE TWO HOUSE PLANS.

YOU BUILD WHAT WE USE TO CALL THE GARAGE APARTMENT.

GARAGE DOWNSTAIRS, LIVING UPSTAIRS.

PRETTY SIMPLE. OR YOU HAVE A ROW HOUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST A SKINNY LITTLE HOUSE.

SO BIGGER LOTS 60 FOOT GIVES YOU IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

PRODUCTION BUILDERS DON'T ALWAYS WANT TO BUILD A BIGGER HOUSE [INAUDIBLE].

LIKE I SAID, WHAT I'M DOING IS.

I HAVE NO [INAUDIBLE]. WE ALREADY HAVE I HAVEN'T PUT A SIGN UP YET, BUT I HAVE ROUGHLY FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF [INAUDIBLE].

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YOU'LL SEE [INAUDIBLE], BUT THEY'RE NOT ALL BIG, THEY'RE ROUGHLY THREE 60S, TWO I HAVE TWO OF THEM RIGHT NOW ARE 600 THOUSAND. BUT THERE'S VARIATION IN PRICES.

AND ONE OTHER COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE THAT I HEARD COMMENTS LAST NIGHT ABOUT.

NOT EVERYBODY EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A HOME IN HERITAGE OAKS AND THAT'S TRUE, BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A ROSEWOOD IS JUST GOOD CREDIT OR CREDIT SCORES, BUT.

FORTY FORTY THREE PERCENT OF MY HOMES IN SECTION SIX LAST MONTH JUST FINISHED FOR ALL BLUE COLLAR WORKERS. YOU KNOW, THEY WORKED AT THE PLANT, THE NURSES, TEACHERS, WHATEVER.

IT WAS A SURPRISING AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.

I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE AWARE THAT I CAN MAKE AN EIGHTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT HOUSE. I CAN ELONGATED SIDEWAYS.

WHETHER YOU ADD A THREE CAR GARAGE OR NOT BUT IT'LL LOOK LIKE IT FITS NEXT TO A FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE HOUSE. SO WHEN YOU HAVE THAT LOT, YOU CAN MAKE THE SMALL HOMES LOOK MUCH BIGGER THAN THEY REALLY ARE. AND IT GIVES YOU MORE ROOM FOR A SWIMMING POOL.

I STILL HAVE A COUPLE MORE [INAUDIBLE].

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF ANGLETON AND CHRIS PELTIER HOMES FOR THE HERITAGE OAKS SECTION SEVEN SUBDIVISION.

SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES.

GO AHEAD. I'VE GOT TO AMEND MY MOTION.

I HAVE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO STILL AGREE THE AGREEMENT, BUT WITH THE CHANGES FROM THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT OF [INAUDIBLE] OF NINE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED TEN DOLLARS AND TEN CENTS AND A CREDIT OF 38,168.04.

IN SECTION 1.06 OF THE [INAUDIBLE] CREDIT.

CECIL, YOU GOOD WITH THOSE? I'M GOO WITH THAT SECOND.

OK, FRANCES, YOU GOT ALL THAT.

OK, ARE WE GOOD? MS. OK.

ALL RIGHT. MOTION'S BEEN AMENDED WITH THOSE MODIFICATIONS.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES. MOVING ALONG TO NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A

[4. Discussion and possible action on a proposal from HDR, Inc, for the Henderson Road improvement project drainage study.]

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT UP FRONT.

JASON, I MET WITH BARRY GOODMAN, WE DID THE GULF COAST TRANSIT, CEDAR STREET RIBBON CUTTING KICKOFF WITH THE WITH THE SILVER SHOVEL TO BE ENGRAVED LATER.

BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HENDERSON ROAD.

BARRY SAID THAT THERE'S SOME FEDERAL GRANTS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THIS FALL THAT HE THOUGHT WOULD POTENTIALLY QUALIFY BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH HIM BEFORE.

BUT WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN APPLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THEY WANT PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOVEL READY JUST LIKE A LOT OF OTHER GRANTS.

AND SO WE'VE GOT TO GET IT THE DRAINAGE AND THE RIGHT OF WAY STUFF IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SAY YEAH WE CAN FIT OR THIS CAN FIT OR WE CAN DESIGN TO FIT OR WHATEVER IT IS.

AND SO THIS WAS REQUESTED TO COME BACK TO THE AGENDA FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW.

AND THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY.

OK, THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE, SIR.

ARE YOU TELLING US THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT NOW IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT FOR GRANT? WELL, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION TODAY, IT'S VERY RELEVANT BECAUSE BY TIME YOU WOULD DO THE STUFF AND THEN SUBMIT FOR THE GRANT.

IF WE WAIT TO FIND OUT THE GRANTS AVAILABLE AND THEN TRY TO RUSH AFTER IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROBABLY MEET THE TIMELINE OF THE GRANT.

AND SO WE KIND OF EXPECT THE SEPTEMBER TO DECEMBER-ISH WINDOW OF WHEN THAT GRANT COULD BE ELIGIBLE. AND THIS IS ABOUT, THIS IS 180 DAYS.

TIMELINE ON THIS? I THINK SO, YEAH.

ON THE DRAINAGE DATE? I DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS TIMELINE ON THE DRAINAGE DATE.

BUT I MEAN, JOHN PETERSON SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.

HE'S GOTTEN, HE'S IN TRAFFIC.

LET ME SHARE A FEW THINGS WITH YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

WE TALKED ABOUT HENDERSON ROAD AT THE LAST MEETING.

I THINK IT WAS AND I HONEST.

I THINK WE SHORTED THAT TOPIC.

PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER AND MORE DEPTH.

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AND THE ENGINEER HAS RECOMMENDED TO US THE THE NEW SHAPE OF THE STREET, THE INTERSECTION CONFIGURATIONS, THE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES BETWEEN BUSINESS 288 AND HIGHWAY 35. WHICH MEANS I GET MY COMMENTS IN THE RIGHT ORDER HERE, BUT THEY HAVE NOW COME AND ASKED US TO APPROVE GIVING THEM THE CONTRACT FOR A DRAINAGE STUDY FOR HENDERSON ROAD.

SO THEY WANT TO GO IN AND DO THE DRAINAGE STUDY TO DETERMINE THE NEEDED SIZES OF CULVERTS AND WHERE THE WATER GOES AND AND ENSURE THAT WE DON'T FLOOD ANYBODY UP AND DOWNSTREAM OR TRY TO AT LEAST MAKE THINGS NOT ANY WORSE THAN THAN THEY ARE, LET'S SAY, IN THE RANCHO SUBDIVISION, WHICH DRAINS TO THIS DITCH AND STUFF.

AND. ANOTHER ITEM WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT, BUT THE LAST MEETING WAS THERE'S A PROPOSAL OUT THERE TO GATHER THE NEEDED TOPOGRAPHIC DATA ALONG THIS STRETCH OF HENDERSON ROAD AND TO DETERMINE THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH.

AND WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY LINES ARE THROUGH THIS SAME AREA.

WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY DATA, THEY CAN THEN DETERMINE IF WE HAVE ADEQUATE RIGHT OF WAY TO BUILD A STREET, TO BUILD THE SIDEWALKS, TO PUT THE AMENITIES IN THERE THAT WE WANT TO PUT IN THERE OR OR WE CHOKE DOWN IN SOME PLACES.

WE NEED TO GET ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY JUST TO JUST AS THE GEOMETRICAL SPECIFICS OF OF THE STREET ITSELF. THE TOPOGRAPHIC DATA THAT'S GOING TO BE GATHERED IS A TWOFOLD PURPOSE.

THEY'RE GOING TO USE THIS TOPOGRAPHIC DATA IN PREPARING THE DRAINAGE STUDY.

NOW YOU CAN DO A DRAINAGE STUDY WITHOUT TOPOGRAPHIC DATA, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE EDUCATED ASSUMPTIONS, GUESSES.

WHEREAS WITH THE DATA, YOU CAN USE THAT DATA, YOU GO YOU GET SOME GOOD, HARD FACTS HERE THAT I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO GUESS ABOUT THIS MAKE EDUCATED GUESSES.

THE SAME DATA THAT'S GATHERED WITH THE TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY WILL BE USED IN THE DESIGN OF THE STREET. OK, SO, WELL, YOU MIGHT ASK, WELL, WHAT IF THINGS CHANGE? WELL, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT CAN CHANGE OUT THERE.

THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE THAT MAYBE A DEVELOPMENT COME IN.

BUT IF THEY DO, WE CAN REQUIRE THEM, WHICH THEY DO.

THEY SUBMIT THEIR PLANS FOR US.

SO WE JUST INCORPORATE THAT INTO.

THE DATABASE THAT WE GENERATED FOR THIS WHOLE THIS WHOLE STREET JOB.

HDAC WILL LOOK AT THIS PROJECT, I THINK, MORE FAVORABLY IF WE COME TO THEM AND SAY WE'VE DONE THE RIGHT OF WAY STUDY, WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED.

WE HAVE ADEQUATE OR WE KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO GET ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY.

WE'VE DONE A DRAINAGE STUDY.

WE KNOW WHAT WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PUT OUT THERE.

WE'VE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY SO WE KNOW HOW WIDE THE STREET NEEDS TO BE, YADA, YADA, YADA.

ALL OF THOSE SPECIFICS, RATHER THAN GOING OVER THERE WITH OUR HAT IN OUR HAND SAYING WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE, BUT WE LIKE WE THINK.

BUT IF WE GO THERE KNOWING I'VE GOT THIS DATA VERY SIMILAR TO THE WAY, I DON'T ACT THE SAME WAY NOW. BUT WHEN WHEN THE BYPASS FROM 30 USED TO BE CALLED A 35 BYPASS [INAUDIBLE] TWENTY THREE WHEN IT WAS.

THE WAY IT STARTED WAS THE DEVELOPER CAME IN.

AND DONATED A BUNCH OF RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH THERE.

THIS CITY OR WHATEVER, ACQUIRED THE RIGHT OF WAY, WENT TO TXDOT, SAID HERE'S YOUR RIGHT OF WAY, WILL YOU BUILD A ROAD? AND TXDOT SAID WOW, WE DON'T GET THIS VERY OFTEN.

THAT'S A SHORT STORY OF HOW OF HOW IT HAD HAPPENED, SO THAT'S HOW THAT'S HOW THE FM 523 OR WHAT'S CALLED THE 35 BYPASS WAS BUILT BETWEEN 35 AND [INAUDIBLE] FREEWAY.

THAT'S HOW THAT GOT GOT TO HAPPEN.

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AND CHRIS CAME UP JUST TODAY AND SAID THAT WE'VE FOUND OUT WE'VE GOT THIS POTENTIAL FEDERAL FUNDING.

AVAILABLE OR COMING UP.

SO I THINK WE CAN I THINK WE CAN GET A BUNCH OF KUDOS BY HAVING SOME OF THIS INFORMATION READY AND COMPILED FOR A TOTAL HERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT? NINETY THREE FIVE.

NINETY THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

HOW WILL THAT BE FUNDED? MR. WHITTAKER CAN TELL US THAT.

WELL, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET.

I MEAN, YOU COULD TAKE SOME, YOU KNOW.

BOND MONEY, THAT'S FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN PAY FOR THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I MEAN, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER.

SO WHEN WHEN WE DO THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH HDR COME UP A LITTLE SHORT.

WE CAN FIND THAT OUT OF SOMETHING ELSE AT A LATER DATE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANY TIME SOON [INAUDIBLE] NEXT YEAR.

WELL, WE'VE. ROAD BOND, YEAH.

UNLESS THE ROAD BOND HAS CERTAIN SPECIFICS IN IT THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.

FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS. I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO HAMSTRING [INAUDIBLE].

AND WE STILL HAVE AFTER THE THREE OTHER ROADS, WE HAVE THREE MILLION LEFT OVER? WELL, THERE'S SEVEN MILLION.

IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, THE TIME THE BUDGET GETS APPROVED AND YOU EXECUTE.

NOW WE'RE IN THE 180 DAYS PLUS AND YOU'RE THE YOU'RE OUT OF THE WINDOW WITH THE POTENTIAL GRANTS.

[INAUDIBLE] SO THEN.

THIS THIS IS WHAT I'M PRESENTING HERE TONIGHT OR ASKING YOU TO THINK ABOUT IS THIS STUFF THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO BAD.

IT'S. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE THERE.

IT'S IT DOESN'T CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY.

MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE PROPOSAL FROM HDR FOR THE HENDERSON ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT DRAINAGE STUDY AND FUNDED FROM THE MONEY FROM THE STREET BOND AT THIS TIME.

LOOK AT THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A SECOND, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THAT'S LEFT. THANK YOU, MEGAN.

MADE A MOTION.

IT'S BEEN A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE ON THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

PART OF THE CONTRACT OR PROPOSAL.

IT'S A LITTLE. THAT'S REIMBURSEMENT OF EXPENSES WILL BE CHARGED AT 10 PERCENT.

THAT'S FINE. TNM CHARGES IN ADDITIONAL SERVICES BEYOND THOSE DESCRIBED IN THE SCOPE OF SERVICES WILL BE INVOICE ON THE BASIS OF DIRECT LABOR COST.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS MOSTLY ENGINEERING, RIGHT? YES, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE UP FRONT.

OK. AND IT SAYS TIME'S A FACTOR OF THREE POINT ONE EIGHT.

IS THAT. THEIR COST.

LIKE THAT, THEIR HOURLY RATE I KNOW IT'S A MARK UP, BUT THAT'S PRETTY HIGH MARKUP, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THE RATE IS. AND ADDITIONALLY, A DIRECT COST OF 10 PERCENT ON TOP OF THAT.

THAT I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

OK. SO AND I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU.

OK, SO [INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW BACK ON THAT.

YEAH.

MILEAGE, I DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT BEING IN THERE, BUT IT'S FINE.

YEAH, THAT'S IT. OK.

AND WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE DO HDR, JOHN KNOWS TO BE [INAUDIBLE] ALL OUR COSTS AND ALL THE WORK, SO HE KNOWS TO BE SOMEWHAT.

MONEY CONSCIOUS WHEN IT COMES TO ANGLETON'S ACCOUNT, SO [INAUDIBLE].

I'LL GET YOU SOME ANSWER BACK.

ALRIGHT THANK YOU. I THINK WE'VE BROUGHT THEM TO THE TABLE.

I THINK JOHN HAS GRILLED THEM BEFORE ON SOME OF THIS LIKE THIS.

THEY SEE OUR, THEY KNOW OUR POSITION.

CECIL THANK YOUR FOR ASKING TO BRING THIS BACK UP.

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I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET ONE PART BEFORE [INAUDIBLE] GOING AND GET ONE HAS THE BALL GAME AND TRY TO GET [INAUDIBLE].

WE KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING TO HAPPEN IF WE CAN GET IT [INAUDIBLE].

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES. ITEM FIVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSAL FOR B&L INC

[5. Discussion and possible action on a proposal from Baker & Lawson, Inc. for surveying services for Henderson Road drainage improvements.]

SO REALLY, IT'S RIGHT OF WAY SURVEY IS WHAT THE ACCURATE PROPOSAL IS.

THAT BAKER AND LAWSON WOULD CONDUCT, AGAIN, JUST LIKE CECIL SAID BEFORE, THIS MAKES US CLOSER TO SHOVEL READY.

SO IF WE HAVE DEFICIENCIES IN RIGHT OF WAY WE CAN TRY TO GO AFTER THAT VERSUS NOT HAVING ANY CONCEPT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE DESIGN, KNOWING WHETHER IT'S FEASIBLE OR HOW FEASIBLE IT IS. AND LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY, YOU'RE SAYING RECOMMEND.

RIGHT COURSE OF ACTION TWO, EIGHTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

YES SIR.

YOU KNOW THEY THE PROPOSAL HERE.

FOR TWO THOUSAND MORE DOLLARS, YOU GO FROM RANCHO DITCH WHERE WE JUST INSTALL A NEW BIG [INAUDIBLE] DOWN TO 35.

I JUST KIND OF SHOCKED THAT THAT'S ALL ADDITIONAL THERE, BUT.

THAT'S A GOOD CHUNK RIGHT THERE, WHEN I WAS SOUNDING OFF 935 WHILE AGO, I WAS ADDING THIS EIGHTEEN THOUSAND TO THE OTHER ONE, SO. COUNCIL.

CAN'T HAVE THIS ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.

OK, THAT'S TRUE, THESE PRETTY MUCH GO HAND IN HAND.

MAYOR I MOVE THAT WE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT BAKER AND LAWSON ON THE OPTION TWO THE PROPOSAL TO PERFORM BOUNDARY AND TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY.

I'LL SECOND IT. MOTION BY CECIL COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

FUNDING IT FROM STREET? THE STREET BONDS.

YES. YOU WANT TO PUT THAT IN YOUR MOTION [INAUDIBLE].

FUNDED IT, FUNDED THROUGH STREET BOND FUNDS.

YOU GOOD MR. GONGORA? YES SIR. ALL RIGHT. MOTION HAS BEEN AMENDED TO HAVE THAT WORDING IN IT.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES AND WE'RE TO THE PART OF THE MEETING I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO ENJOY.

WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN AT 6:56.

THANK YOU. HAVE GOOD EVENING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.