ALL RIGHT, WELCOME, EVERYONE, TO OUR ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JULY THE [00:00:06] 13TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE AT SIX PM. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL US TO ORDER AT SIX PM, IF YOU WILL. PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND INVOCATION. WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. BOW WITH ME, PLEASE [INVOCATION] LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, WE THANK YOU FOR THE PROVISIONS OF LIFE THAT YOU SO FREELY GIVE AND YOU SO BLESSED US SO ABUNDANTLY. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE CITY THAT WE LIVE IN. AND WE SERVE IN FATHER THAT WE JUST PRAY THAT TONIGHT THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE US AND DIRECT US AND GIVE US THE WISDOM THAT COMES FROM YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WOULD BE HONORING TO YOU AND HONORABLE FOR THE CITIZENRY OF OUR TOWN. CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR OUR STAFF, FOR OUR POLICE FORCE, FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS, FOR EMERGENCY PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY THAT DOES A JOB HERE IN TOWN LORD JUST PROTECT THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. FATHER GIVE US YOUR PEACE. THANK YOU, LEAD US AND GUIDE US IN CHRIST NAME WE PRAY AMEN. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. MOVING ALONG IN OUR AGENDA. CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL, BUT IT'S ON A TOP. IT'S ON A ITEM THAT WE HAVE LISTED. EXCUSE ME. SO WE'LL BRING THAT INDIVIDUAL UP AS THAT TIME ARISES THAT WE HAVE NO OTHER SLIPS TO RECOGNIZE ANYONE TO COME UP TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. SO THEY'LL MOVE US RIGHT ALONG HERE TO OUR CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS. [CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS] THE FIRST ONE IS NUMBER ONE PRESENTATION OF EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS MS. COLLEEN. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? NO, IT'S NOT WORKING, IT'S BARELY ON. I CAN TALK REALLY LOUD. HOW'S THAT? THERE YOU GO. THIS EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT MS. JODY WALKER FROM THE ANGLETON ACTIVITY CENTER RECREATION CENTER WITH A FIVE YEAR SERVICE AWARD. COME ON UP. YAY. [APPLAUSE] MEMBERS, FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION DURING THE PERIODS OF HEAVY RAINS DOWN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON. AND THAT IS OLGA FLORES, ERNEST ROBERTS, CARLOS TREVINO, JAVIER GONZALEZ AND [INAUDIBLE]. IF YOU'LL COME UP PLEASE. [APPLAUSE] AND MR. MAYOR WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY SO EVERY TIME IT RAINS HARD OUTSIDE, THEY'RE OUT AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BECAUSE THE [INAUDIBLE] AND THE [INAUDIBLE] CHALLENGES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND SO THEY'RE JUST KEEPING THE CITY RUNNING AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THE CITY. [APPLAUSE] THESE ARE THE GUYS NOBODY SEES. I MEAN MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THEY ARE OUT THERE WORKING AND THESE GUYS MAKE ME LOOK GOOD. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO SCHOOL EIGHT HOURS A DAY, WORKING EIGHT HOURS AT NIGHT AND SOMETIMES THEY SLEEP OUT THERE. SO I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL. [APPLAUSE] COME ON UP. GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? [00:05:01] I HAVE A PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION FROM THE MAYOR TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, WHEREAS THE PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, INCLUDING ANGLETON, TEXAS. AND WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING EXCUSE ME, THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, ENSURING THE HEALTH OF ALL CITIZENS AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMIC, ENVIRONMENTAL WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE REGION. AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS BUILD HEALTHY, ACTIVE COMMUNITIES, THAT AID IN THE PREVENTION OF CHRONIC DISEASE, PROVIDE THERAPEUTIC RECREATION SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE MENTALLY OR PHYSICALLY DISABLED, AND ALSO IMPROVE THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH OF ALL CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS INCREASED COMMUNITY ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, THE EXPANSION OF LOCAL TAX BASE, INCREASED TOURISM AND THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESS AND CRIME REDUCTION. AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WHEREAS PARKS AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS IMPROVE WATER QUALITY, PROTECT GROUNDWATER, PREVENT FLOODING, IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF AIR WE BREATHE, PROVIDE VEGETATED BUFFERS TO DEVELOPMENT, AND PRODUCE HABITAT FOR WILDLIFE. OOPS, WENT TOO FAR. SORRY, GUYS. AND WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE THE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS, AND WHEREAS THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH AND WHEREAS ANGLETON TEXAS RECOGNIZES THE BENEFITS DERIVED FROM PARKS AND RECREATION RESOURCES NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF ANGLETON, TEXAS RECOGNIZED THAT JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON SIGNED THIS STATE. JUNE TWENTY, TWENTY ONE YARD OF THE MONTH AND BUSINESS OF THE MONTH BY KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL MS. [INAUDIBLE] OH AND MS. HEATHER, WELCOME FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND EVERYBODY PROBABLY KNOWS HEATHER BRUCE, BUT SHE'S THE NEWEST BOARD MEMBER ON OUR TEAM AND WE WERE SO THRILLED TO HAVE HER AND SHE ALSO SITS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD. OK, FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WILL AND RACHEL AND THEIR DAUGHTER. THIS IS WILL AND RACHEL THEIR THE OWNERS HOPE ANIMAL HOSPITAL ON THIRTY FIVE AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE. IT IS REALLY NEAT. AND FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME TO ANGLETON. WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE YOU AND THANK YOU [INAUDIBLE] AND FROM THE CITIZENS OF ANGLETON. COUNCIL KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU AND WELCOME. OK, THERE YOU GO. [APPLAUSE] YES, WE FINALLY GET TO PUT A NAME TO A FACE. WE SEE YOUR NAME A LOT, BUT NOW WE GET TO SEE YOU. ON COLONY SQUARE. THEY WERE NOMINATED AND THEN WE FOUND OUT THEY WERE GOOD FRIENDS OF SOMEBODY ON BOARD. [INAUDIBLE] WE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE. BUT THANK YOU ALL AGAIN, TAKING SO MUCH PRIDE IN OUR HOMETOWN, YALLS HOMETOWN. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. OK, THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. RIGHT ALONG TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, LET'S SEE. [CONSENT AGENDA] ITEM NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF APRIL 13, 2021 AND REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF APRIL 27TH, 2021. NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO TWO ONE ZERO SEVEN ONE THREE ZERO ZERO FIVE, RATIFYING THE DISASTER DECLARATION SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON FEBRUARY 15, 2021 AND CONSENTING TO ITS CONTINUATION THROUGH AUGUST THE 14TH, REPEALING CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. NUMBER SIX DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO TWO ONE ZERO SEVEN ONE THREE DASH ZERO ZERO SIX RATIFYING THE DISASTER DECLARATION SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON MARCH 17, 2020, AND CONSENTING TO ITS CONTINUATION THROUGH AUGUST 15, [00:10:04] 2021, REPEALING CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO ZERO TWO ONE ZERO SEVEN ONE THREE ZERO ZERO SEVEN, ADOPTING A CONSOLIDATED SCHEDULE OF FEES, REFLECTING THOSE FEES CONTAINED IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS. PROVIDING FOR REPEAL, PROVIDING FOR PENALTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. NUMBER EIGHT DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION OF ANY OF GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S LATEST EXECUTIVE ORDERS. BRAZORIA COUNTIES EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS AND IMPACTS ON THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND HOW TO PROCEED WITH CITY BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE. NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON TXDOT TRAFFIC CONTROLLER CABINET WRAP ART RECOMMENDATION'S ARTIST AGREEMENTS AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER THE DOCUMENTS, NUMBER 10 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF AN OFFER OF CERTAIN PROPERTY HELD IN TRUST AND NUMBER ELEVEN DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION UNDER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH WATERSTONE DEVELOPMENT GROUP LLC FOR THE COPPER RESERVE PROJECT WAIVER OF THE PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ACCEPTANCE COUNCIL. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS. ITEM SEVEN, TEN AND ELEVEN BEING MOVED OUT OF CONSENT AND APPROVAL FOR THE REMAINDER. WELL, MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO [7. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210713-007 adopting a consolidated schedule of fees reflecting those fees contained in the Code of Ordinances of the City of Angleton, Texas; providing for repeal; providing for penalty; providing for severability; providing for an effective date.] ZERO TWO ONE ZERO SEVEN ONE THREE DASH ZERO ZERO SEVEN. ADOPTING A CONSOLIDATED SCHEDULE OF FEES REFLECTING THOSE FEES CONTAINED IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, PROVIDING FOR APPEAL PROVIDING FOR PENALTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS TO YOU GUYS. THIS HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AMONG CITY DEPARTMENTS, DEPARTMENT HEADS AND LEGAL FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. CURRENTLY OUR ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN WHERE FEES ARE SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT THE CITY'S CODE AND IT'S NOT VERY USER FRIENDLY. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CONSOLIDATED IT DOWN TO ONE DOCUMENT INTO A ONE STOP SHOP REFERENCE. SO IT'S VERY USER FRIENDLY. IT'S CRISP, IT'S CLEAN. IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN POSSIBLY OPENING A BUSINESS, PULLING A BUILDING PERMIT, MAYBE THEY WANT TO HAVE CHICKENS OR RABBITS OR SOMETHING. ALL OF THOSE FEES ARE CONTAINED INTO ONE USER FRIENDLY DOCUMENT. SO WE ALSO HAVE A CORRESPONDING ORDINANCE TO FULLY ADOPT THAT. AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU RIGHT NOW. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO ACTUALLY, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IT'S BEEN A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT AND WAS STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND SO WE PICKED IT UP WHERE IT LAST LEFT OFF TO NOTE, THERE ARE FEES THAT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED. THERE'S SOME OLD STUFF IN THERE THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO GO AWAY, BUT WE'RE REALLY JUST ABOUT CONSOLIDATING IT. SO IT'S IN ONE PLACE AND THE OTHER FEES WILL EVENTUALLY DROP OUT OF THEIR LITTLE SUB PARAGRAPHS. AND JUST ALL BE REPRESENTING THE FEE SCHEDULE. OK, COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES, GO AHEAD. THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THIS OUT OF CONSENT IS BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE AND IT'S A MULTI-YEAR EFFORT AND CHANGES A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS. IT PULLS IT ALL IN TOGETHER. MY ONLY THING IS WE DIDN'T GET PUBLIC CONSENT OR INPUT. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE TAKING ACTION ON THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, LET PEOPLE HEAR IT, SEE IT. AND I MEAN, THIS IS A MAJOR SHIFT IN WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IN THE PAST. AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET A PUBLIC INPUT. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I PULLED IT OUT. I REALLY DON'T LIKE ADOPTING ORDINANCES ON THE FIRST READING. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. AND SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS ALREADY HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK. ONE OF THE CITIES I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS CITY OF CELINA, TEXAS. THAT'S SPELLED WITH A C. THEY'VE GOT A NICE DOCUMENT, TOO, WHICH WAS KIND OF WE LOOK TO THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT. AND SO, YES, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN I AM, TOO. I'M JUST ASKING LET'S PUT IT ON FACEBOOK. LET'S ADVERTISE IT, MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED WITH THE CITY. SOMETIMES I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS FEE OR I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO HAVE THIS FEE TO DO THIS. AND IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE LITTLE GO THE EXTRA MILE FOR THE CITIZENS TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND IT. OK, I CAN AGREE WITH THAT. SO, STAFF, CAN WE DO A TOWN HALL MEETING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? [00:15:04] OK, GUYS Y'ALL GOOD WITH THAT, OK? ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S NUMBER SEVEN. SO, MISS JUDITH, DO WE JUST TABLE THIS ONE OR DO WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE IT AS BEING JUST TABLED OR NO? OK, WE'RE TABLING NUMBER SEVEN FOR LATER. FOR A LATER DATE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER TEN, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN OFFER FOR CERTAIN PROPERTIES [10. Discussion and possible action on an offer for certain property(s) held in trust.] HELD IN TRUST. MR. CHRIS. THIS IS A REQUEST FROM BRAZORIA COUNTY JUST CAME TO ME, SO I'M JUST PASSING THE INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL. THE THIS PROPERTY WITH THE COUNTY RECEIVED AN OFFER ON IT AND THE RESALE COMMITTEE APPROVED THE OFFER. IT'S PROPERTY ID NINETEEN SIXTY ZERO ZERO THREE ZERO ZERO FIVE PROPERTY ID ONE EIGHT EIGHT EIGHT FOUR FOUR. AND IT HAS AN ADDRESS OF EAST MULBERRY AND THE OFFERS' FOR THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND HUNDRED AND FOUR DOLLARS. THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL IN THE BACK THAT SHOWS THE PICTURES AND THE APPROVAL BY THE COMMITTEE. SO THIS WAS PASSED ME BY THE COUNTY IN AN EMAIL REQUESTING THE COUNCIL TO REVIEW IT FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR. I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM JOHN WRIGHT HAD A QUESTION AND HE'S GOT A VERY VALID QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE PROPERTY. GO AHEAD, JOHN. SO THE REASON WHY I PULLED THIS ONE WAS AND LOOKING AT IT AND YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION, IT KIND OF IT'S RIGHT OVER A BUSINESS, BASICALLY A BOUNDARY OF A BUSINESS AND KIND OF GOES INTO THEIR DRIVE THRU AREA. AND IT ALSO CUTS THE CORNER OF AN EXISTING BUILDING FROM THE DRAWING. AND I JUST CAN'T SEE IT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE SURVEY MARKS OR ANYTHING. BUT I CAN I JUST KIND OF WORRY ABOUT THAT, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO TO THOSE TWO BUSINESSES. AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THE OWNER OR WHO THE PERSON MAKING THE OFFER IS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE THE CURRENT OWNER OF ONE OF THOSE TWO PLACES AND JUST TRY TO PUT BACK TOGETHER. IT'S IT'S IN THE BACK [INAUDIBLE] I SAW THE NAME, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY OWN A DIFFERENT LOT. I MEAN, THE PROPERTY'S ONLY VALUED AT FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED SIXTY DOLLARS. HE'S OFFERING THIRTY SEVEN POINT ZERO FOUR, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF IT'S SUCH A SMALL SLIVER. AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS COVERED UP BY PART OF THE BUILDING TO THE PARKING LOT. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW USEFUL IT'S GOING TO BE. WELL THAT'S A GOOGLE EARTH IMAGE BE COVERED. OR TAKEN OFF THAT CORNER OF THE BUILDING THE BRAZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT MAP, THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING IS IN THAT LITTLE PIECE. WELL, THAT'S THEIR BEST GUESS TO WHERE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS UNTIL IT'S SURVEYED AND ACTUALLY STAKED MARKED ON THE GROUND. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS STRANGE THINGS HAPPENED, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY LEFTOVER PIECES [INAUDIBLE] I MEAN, IT DOES SHOW THE RESALE COMMITTEE, IT SHOWS THAT IT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. THE PERSON MAKING THE OFFER IS NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE TWO LOCATIONS ON EITHER SIDE. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. SO. YEAH JUST EVEN FROM THE LOOKS OF IT, WHOEVER SIGNED THAT IS THE MARQUEE THAT IS THERE, WHETHER IT'S FOR BLANCHARD'S OR WHETHER IT'S FOR WILD WEST, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PROPERTY SO THAT WHOEVER BUYS IT, THEY'VE GOT TO COME DOWN. PROPERTY AND MOVE IT. WESTERLY, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A HITCH IN A DRIVE IN THE PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE. THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE IT NESTLES IN. OK. I'M JUST SPECULATING, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SPECULATE WHERE THE LINES ACTUALLY DRAWN BECAUSE THE EAST END OF THAT PROPERTY APPEARED TO BE DRAWN OUT IN TXDOT RIGHT AWAY. SO IT'S THEIR BEST GUESS ABOUT WHERE IT IS. I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS ON HOW SOME I FOUND THIS LITTLE SLIVER IN BETWEEN THESE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH PURCHASING THIS LITTLE SLIVER? YOU WONDER. I MEAN, SO, JUDITH, IS THERE ANY RECOMMENDATION, CAN WE ASK FOR MORE INFORMATION? [00:20:10] INSURANCE COMPANY AND [INAUDIBLE]. BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT IF IT'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT'S IN TRUST AND IT'S FOR SALE, I MEAN, I CAN PROBABLY SEE THAT WHERE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IN THE GROUP VOTED AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S [INAUDIBLE] IT'S A VALID PIECE ANYONE, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY IT. HERE IT IS, I JUST MY ONLY CONCERN IS WHAT IT WOULD DO TO THE TWO BUSINESSES RIGHT THERE AND BUT. UM. I DON'T KNOW, COUNCIL WHAT ARE Y'ALL THINK. MAYBE THEY WANT TO PUT UP A BILLBOARD OR SOMETHING. OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. MAYBE SOME SAW THAT AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT A BILLBOARD UP OR SOME SORT OF SIGNAGE. SO IF WE DO PASS THIS AND IS THERE ANYTHING THAT HOLDS US ANY LIABILITY BECAUSE WE SOLD TO SOMEBODY AND NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE ISSUE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK AND IF THIRD PARTY PERSON COMES IN AND PURCHASED IT AND THEN I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, I DON'T KNOW, INFORMATION, SOME MORE SOLID ABOUT THE RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, HOUSES MAYBE REACH OUT TO THIS INDIVIDUAL. WHO KNOWS, HE MAY NOT EVEN LIVE HERE HE MAY LIVE OUT OF STATE. WHO KNOWS WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR JUST MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE MAKE A BEST EDUCATED DECISION TO APPROVE THIS. THESE PARCELS ARE PUT UP FOR PUBLIC SALE LIKE THIS FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO WHOEVER IT IS, AS IS WHERE IS YOU TAKE ON ALL THE LIABILITY? WE DON'T GIVE YOU ANY TITLE COMMITMENT WE HAVE. IT'S WHAT YOU GET IS WHAT YOU GET. IF YOU BUY A PROBLEM, IT'S YOURS. WE'RE JUST TRYING THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET SOMEONE IN THERE PAYING TAXES ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH HASN'T PAID TAXES ON IT LONG ENOUGH TO TRIGGER THIS. [INAUDIBLE] I GUESS, OR FROM THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER PROSPECT BUYER. OK. I MEAN, I WOULD SUGGEST WE SEND THEM A LETTER, REQUEST THE INFORMATION THAT WE WANT GO FROM THERE. WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE SOMEONE PUT IT ON AND INVITE THEM TO THE COUNCIL MEETING SO THEY CAN. OK, ANSWER IN PERSON, SURE. ALL RIGHT, PERFECT. THANKS, GUYS. ALL RIGHT, THANKS. ONCE AGAIN, WE'LL TABLE THAT ITEM FOR FURTHER DATE. NUMBER ELEVEN, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH WATERSTONE [11. Discussion and possible action on a development agreement with Waterstone Development Group, LLC. for the Kiber Reserve project, waiver of the preliminary acceptance of public improvements, and public improvement acceptance.] DEVELOPMENT GROUP LLC FOR FEDERAL RESERVE PROJECT WAIVER OF PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT ACCEPTANCE MS. LINDSAY. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. SO WE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU GUYS TWO WEEKS AGO AND THERE WERE SOME COLLECTIVE AGREEMENT THAT PERHAPS THE AGREEMENT WE WERE PROPOSING WAS NOT AT A STATE WHERE IT WAS COMPLETELY READY TO EXECUTE. SO WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK SAME FORMAT THAT WE DID LAST TIME WITH REGARD TO THE PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE. SO THIS ITEM ALSO INCLUDES A WAIVER OF PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE WITH A ONE YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND, AS WELL AS THE CITY'S ACCEPTANCE OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR ROADWAY'S, UTILITIES, ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, AND ALSO THE AMENDED AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN MODIFIED SINCE TWO WEEKS AGO. WE DO HAVE THE PROJECT OWNERS HERE WITH US TONIGHT AND THEY HAVE SIGNED THE AGREEMENT. SO WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IT IS READY FOR EVERYBODY'S SIGNATURES. OK, SO, JUDITH, YOU'RE HERE WITH US NOW. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. YES. AND IT'S BEEN EXECUTED BY THE DEVELOPER. SO WHAT ONE REASON WHY I PULLED THIS WAS ONE POINT ONE ONE THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY. AND SAID IS THE CITY REQUIRING ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT ALL HAVE AN HOA? CAN SOMEBODY COME IN AND BUILD IN OUR CITY WITHOUT AN HOA? DOES THIS CREATE BECAUSE THIS SAYS DEVELOPER WILL CREATE AN HOA. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY NEGOTIATE WITH THE CITY. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HAVE TO MENTION. SO IN YOUR LDC, YOU ALREADY HAVE PROVISIONS REGARDING HOAS. [00:25:03] YOUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE ONE, BUT GENERALLY THAT'S ONE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW OF A DEVELOPER THAT'S COME IN AND SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO AN HOA FROM THE BEGINNING. IT'S ONE WAY OF KEEPING THE PROPERTY IN GOOD CONDITION. BUT I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NOW AND IN SEVERAL OF THE NEWER ONES, THE HOA PROVISION HAS A FALLBACK PROVISION SO THAT IF THE HOA DOES NOT DO ITS JOB OR DISSOLVES OR JUST DOESN'T DO WHATEVER THEIR COVENANTS SAY, THE CITY CAN STEP IN AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY IS WHERE IT SHOULD BE AND THEN THE CITY CAN GET REIMBURSED. SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER METHOD OF MAKING SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME IN ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF. SO IT'S NOT NEW. I MEAN, IT'S IN YOUR LDC, RIGHT. BUT TO A CITIZENS POINT, THEY SAID, WELL, IN THAT WITH OUR CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES IS DOING AS WELL FOR ALL THOSE THAT ARE NOT IN A HOA IN THE CITY, WE ARE MAINTAINING THOSE AREAS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH AND MAKING SURE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND LIKE LIKEWISE ANY TYPE OF POLICE AND ISSUES THAT WE SEE. WHY WOULD WE WANT TO CREATE ANOTHER LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY WITH AN HOA? AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T WANT TO CREATE AN HOA, BUT ARE WE FORCING EVERY DEVELOPER TO CREATE AN HOA BY DOING THIS? TAKE OUT THE LDC BECAUSE WE CAN CHANGE THE LDC AND WE KNOW HOW THAT WAS ADOPTED. I THINK IT'S TWO PRONGED IS THE CITY FORCING WHEN YOU SAY THE CITY, DO YOU MEAN STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL? NO, THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING OUR DEVELOPER, ALL THESE DEVELOPERS COMING THROUGH. YEAH. SO IT'S ILLEGAL. IT WILL BE IT WILL ALWAYS BE THE RECOMMENDATION OF YOUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT THERE'S AN HOA. SO THAT'S PART OF THE ANSWER. IT'S UP TO THE CITY. I MEAN, IF THERE ARE EVERY DEVELOPMENT IS DIFFERENT. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE DEVELOPMENT WITH ONLY FORTY HOMES, YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE WITH THREE THOUSAND. WELL, SO THE POINT OF HAVING THE HOA IS TO RELIEVE THE CITY OF THAT MUNICIPAL EXPENSE OF SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T RELIEVE YOU COMPLETELY SURE, BUT IT WILL HELP EASE THE MUNICIPAL BURDEN. AND IF I RECALL OR HOW [INAUDIBLE] HOAS ARE ALSO A LAYER FOR THE DEVELOPER TO PUT THOSE EXTRA MEASURES IN PLACE THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR ORDNANCES, MAYBE TO AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDARD WHAT THEY COULD HAVE IN THEIR BACKYARD OR WHAT THEY CAN HAVE ON THEIR FRONT YARD, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE BY ORDINANCE. BUT MAYBE THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE IT SO THAT IT'S A STANDARD WORKS KIND OF UNIFORMITY FROM ALL THE BOUNDARIES WITHIN THE HOA. SO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. AND THE THING I NEED TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, EVERY SESSION TAKES MORE AND MORE POWER AWAY FROM MUNICIPALITIES AND WHAT YOU CAN CONTROL AND WHAT YOU CAN DICTATE BY ORDINANCE. SO IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE STATE LAWS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO, ONE OF THE WAYS TO MAKE SURE THE PROPERTY IS MAINTAINED IF THIS CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT IS THROUGH AN HOA. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JOHN. ARE WE ASKING THAT THEY ALL MANDATE IT OR IS IT AN OPTION? AND SO I WOULD PREFER THAT MAYBE IT BE THE OPTION. BUT WE'VE SEEN THAT HOAS CAN BE SUCCESSFUL AND WE'VE SEEN THEM GO BAD. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL. AND I THINK RANCHO BECAUSE RANCHO HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 80S, MAYBE EVEN SOONER, AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A PRETTY DECENT JOB WITH MANAGING THEIR RULES AND REGULATIONS TO HAVE STILL A NICE LOOKING SUBDIVISION APPEARANCE AND MAINTENANCE. I THINK THE SAFEST ANSWER YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM ME IS IT IS A CASE BY CASE BASIS. IT DEPENDS ON THE DEVELOPMENT. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN BEFORE HOAS BECAME POPULAR AND PEOPLE WOULD VIOLATE THEIR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. THESE RESTRICTIONS, YOU KNOW, AND THERE IS NO POLICING AGENCY TO TO MAKE THEM HOLD TO IT GO PUT UP SOME RATTY THING IN THE BACKYARD IT WAS NOT ALLOWED BY DEED RESTRICTIONS. AND IF YOU GO IN OR SOMEONE GOES IN THERE AND SAYS SOMETHING, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THERE'S AN ARGUMENT BETWEEN LOT OWNERS AND STUFF. I'M ABOUT TO STEP IN AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE SORT OF THINGS. I JUST FIND IT IRONIC THAT OF ALL THE COUNCIL, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US LIVE IN AN HOA. [00:30:03] THAT'S WHY I ASK THE QUESTION. BUT AS FOR THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, IF EVERYONE'S GOOD WITH IT, THEN, MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE WATERSTONE DEVELOPMENT GROUP LLC FOR THE KIBER RESERVE PROJECT AND WAIVER OF THE PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND PUBLIC AND IMPROVING ACCEPTANCE. SECOND, OK, THAT'S FINE. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, AND IF I'M ALLOWED TO FROM A DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, IF WE BUILD A SEVEN UNIT SUBDIVISION, WE PUT IN DEED RESTRICTIONS, THEY BECOME THE ONLY TOOL THAT WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT SHOULD YOU MOVE INTO THE COMMUNITY AND YOU INVEST YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY TODAY, THAT YOU KNOW THAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE GOING TO BE THERE IN A YEAR. WE ALSO, AS COUNCIL SAID, WE PLACE RESTRICTIONS THAT CITIES ARE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO. FOR EXAMPLE, WE TELL PEOPLE THEY CAN ONLY PARK ON THE STREET FOR 72 HOURS. WE TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN'T PARK IN THEIR DRIVEWAY OR THEY CAN'T PARK A HUGE WORK TRUCK IN THEIR DRIVEWAY. WE TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN'T PARK ON THEIR GRASS, THAT THEY CAN'T CHANGE THE OIL IN THE FRONT YARD. I DON'T THINK THE CITY COULD PASS THOSE TYPES OF RULES. AND SO WHAT OUR STANDARD DEED RESTRICTIONS, EVEN BEFORE WE STARTED THIS NEGOTIATION DO IS THEY HAVE ALWAYS GIVEN THE CITY THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE THEM, BUT NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ENFORCE THEM. AND SO I WOULD AS MUCH AS IT SOUNDS KIND OF BACKWARDS, I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER THE IDEA THAT EVERY SUBDIVISION THAT'S BUILT IN YOUR CITY FROM TODAY FORWARD SHOULD HAVE AN HOA. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE EXPENSIVE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO COST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR, WHICH IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE CONCERNS. BUT TYPICALLY WE SEE PEOPLE WHO INTEND TO APIDE BY RULES, DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AN HOA, THE ONES WHO DON'T OR TYPICALLY THE GUY OR GAL WHO WANT TO BE ABLE TO PARK FOUR TRUCKS ON THEIR THEIR PARKING ON THEIR GRASS OR WHO WANT TO HAVE LARGE DOGS THAT ROAM THE STREETS OR DON'T WANT TO MOW THEIR GRASS. IT'S NOT SAYING EVERYONE, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY THAT THAT IS A AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED AND WE THINK THAT IT'S IN YOUR BEST INTEREST. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP, WE APPRECIATE COUNCIL AND STAFF CREATING THE MAKING THE CHANGES TO OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE HAVE SIGNED THAT. WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH IT. WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THE CONCEPT OF SUBMITTING THE THE ABBREVIATED BONDING PROCEDURE, ET CETERA, THAT Y'ALL HAVE ALLOWED. BUT I DO HAVE ONE SMALL THING I'D LIKE TO ASK OF COUNCIL. I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING VERY RECENTLY, SO I HADN'T HAD TIME TO PRESENT ANYTHING TO ANYBODY BUT THE LAW, ACCORDING TO P THREE, WHICH IS YOUR PIT ADMINISTRATOR, AND ACCORDING TO TIM GREEN, WHO IS OUR COUNCIL AND ACCORDING TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. AND WOULD YOU SUBMIT THOSE PERTAINING TO THE DEDICATION OF IMPROVEMENTS IS WE CANNOT DEDICATE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY UNTIL THE CITY HAS AGREED TO A SOME TYPE OF REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THOSE. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE IT AWAY. AND IF YOU TAKE THAT PACKAGE THAT WAS JUST PUT IN FRONT OF YOU AND IF YOU TURN TO PAGE THREE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION AND GO DOWN TO ITEM C, IT SAYS REIMBURSEMENT OF DEVELOPERS CHAPTER 372 DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT OF DEVELOPERS OR PAYMENTS BY A CITY FOR THE ACQUISITION OF IMPROVEMENTS ALREADY DEDICATED TO THE CITY. SO IF TONIGHT WE WERE TO DEDICATE THESE IMPROVEMENTS TO YOU WITHOUT HAVING AT LEAST SOME FORM, WE WOULD BE OUR PID WOULD BECOME INVALID. YOUR OWN P THREE. JOHN SNYDER ON THE NEXT DOCUMENT, YOU'LL SEE WHERE IT'S HIGHLIGHTED AND TAKE THE SECOND ONE. IT SAYS, FOLLOWING THIS APPROVAL OF THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT, THE CITY CAN ACCEPT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT CAN STILL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE PAID BY THE PID REIMBURSEMENT. SO ONE OF THE CRUCIAL STEPS IS BEFORE WE DEDICATE OUR IMPROVEMENTS TO YOU, WE NEED SOME FORM OF REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT. OUR COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING WITH P THREE TOWARDS A STANDARDIZED REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE UNDERSTAND P THREE WILL THEN SUBMIT TO YOU. [00:35:03] BUT I HAVE INCLUDED, AT REQUEST OF COUNCIL, A THIRD PAGE. THAT'S JUST A VERY SIMPLE ONE PAGE THAT SAYS THE CITY OF ANGLETON AGREES TO REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER FOR ITS REIMBURSABLE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THE PID CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PURPOSE IN NOVEMBER OF 2020. AND FURTHER, SAYS THE CITY AND DEVELOPER AGREED TO NEGOTIATE ON A FULL REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT SUPPLIED BY P THREE AT THE CITY'S CONSULTANT. AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO COUNSEL, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS A WEEK AGO, BUT IF WE COULD GET SOMETHING THIS SIMPLE SIGNED, IT'LL PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN GET REIMBURSED. IF YOU WERE TO ACCEPT OUR IMPROVEMENTS TONIGHT WITHOUT A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE, EVEN A SIMPLE ONE LIKE THIS, WE WOULD LOSE THE ONE POINT EIGHT DOLLARS MILLION THAT THAT PID IS WORTH TO US. THANK YOU SO I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ADOPT OR NOT ADOPT, BUT EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AT LEAST. HOWEVER, IF THE PROJECT OWNER FEELS THAT HOLDING OFF ON PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IS IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO HIS PROJECT, THEN I SAY THAT MAYBE WE LOOK AT AMENDING THE RECOMMENDED MOTION TO LIMITING IT JUST TO EXECUTING THE AGREEMENT. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I CANNOT OPINE ON ANYTHING THAT WAS JUST HANDED TO ME. AND PART OF THE OPINION WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM YOUR BOND COUNSEL. SO WHETHER OR NOT MR. VON SCHMIDT IS SAYING IS FACTUAL IS DEBATABLE. I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH THEM. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS YOU'LL SEE ON PAGE TWO, THIS WAS A LETTER TO ALL BOND COUNCIL, AND I'M NOT YOUR BOND COUNSEL, SO WE'LL NEED TO GET THEM TO WEIGH IN. BUT YOU CAN APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE IT'S SEPARATE AND APART FROM ACCEPTANCE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. MR. MAYOR, I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO JUST APPROVE THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT WITH WATERSTONE GROUP LLC, I'LL SECOND THAT, OK, MOTIONS HAVE BEEN AMENDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT COUNCILMAN BOOTH ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND WHEN WE GET AROUND TO THE ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC FACILITIES, THE DATA WILL START THEN. CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR STAFF TO GO AND JUST RE INSPECT AND JUST RUN THROUGH THAT AGAIN JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S UP TO PAR FOR ACCEPTANCE. BUT JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE PROJECT CANNOT PULL BUILDING PERMITS WITHOUT HAVING THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ACCEPTED BY THE CITY. SO WHILE THAT MAY DELAY YOUR PROJECT SLIGHTLY, CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE UP AND BUILDING MATERIALS ARE UP RIGHT NOW ANYWAY. SO IT MAY END UP WORKING OUT FOR YOU GUYS. OK, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL IN GOOD DIRECTION, OK [INAUDIBLE]. SOUNDS LIKE ME. THAT SOUNDS LIKE LINDSAY. LINDSAY, YOU'RE OVER THERE NOW. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OK, THAT DOES IT FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBER TWELVE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ALSO KNOWN [12. Discussion and possible action on a Public Improvement District (PID) policy.] AS THE PID FOR PID POLICY CHRIS. SO WE'VE HAD SCOTT [INAUDIBLE] PREVIOUSLY. WE'VE HAD JOHN SNYDER, WHO'S HERE WITH US TODAY, COME AND TALK ABOUT PID'S AND OTHER TOPICS TO BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO VARIOUS BOARDS. YOU KNOW, PART OF CHAPTER 372 TALKS ABOUT BENEFITS TO THE CITY. AND SO HOW DO YOU DEFINE THAT? AND ALSO IS THE PLAN ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE? AND SO IN ORDER TO PUT A PROCESS IN PLACE, WE'VE STAFFED AND DEVELOPED A POLICY THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND EVENTUALLY WILL CREATE SORT OF A FLOW CHART AND A CHECKLIST. AND SO IT KIND OF BECOMES A LITTLE BIT CLEARER, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE INITIAL REVIEW. THEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, GETS ADDED INTO AN SAP AND THOSE KIND OF [00:40:01] THINGS. BUT AND WE DIDN'T INVENT THIS FROM SCRATCH. WE BORROWED THIS FROM ANOTHER CITY AND TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND SCOPED IT TO FIT OUR NEEDS. AND REALLY, IT ADDRESSES THERE'S A THREE PART PROCESS. ONE IS A INITIAL NONREFUNDABLE FEE. THAT'S FOR P THREE. AND OUR ATTORNEY OR WHOEVER ELSE NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED TO REVIEW THE POLICY ONCE YOU ALL ACCEPT IT, THAT YOU WANT TO DO A PID WITH THE DEVELOPER, THEN IT MOVES ON TO STAGE, TWO. AND THAT'S A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR RECHARGEABLE FEE. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS, ALLOWS P THREE AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO ACT AS ADMINISTRATOR OF THE PID FOR THE LIFE OF THE PID. AND THEN THE THIRD PART IS, YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE DEVELOPERS ASKING THE CITY TO GO OUT AND BOND MONEY ON THEIR BEHALF. AND SO WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR A ENHANCEMENT FUND WHICH COULD BE USED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS LIKE WE TALK ABOUT DURING BUDGET ANOTHER TIME. AND SO THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER SAYING, HEY, IN EXCHANGE FOR THE CITY TAKING ON THIS DEBT, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THIS FEE TO THE CITY AND TO BE USED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS OR WHETHER IT'S A STREET PROJECT OR A ROAD PROJECT, A PARKS IMPROVEMENT, AND THAT'S SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER FEES THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE FEE SCHEDULE, LIKE [INAUDIBLE]. AND SO WE'VE STOPPED THIS WITH P THREE, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS AND ALL THE FOLKS WE'RE WORKING WITH TO CREATE THIS POLICY FOR THE CITY SO THAT WE HAVE CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHEN SOMEONE ASKS FOR A PID WHAT'S THE PROCESS? AND THEY KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHO DOES WHAT TO WHO, WHAT'S REQUIREMENT. AGAIN, THESE FEES WOULD GO INTO THE FEE SCHEDULE FEE SCHEDULE ONCE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FORMALIZED. AND SO WE'VE GOT JOHN SNYDER HERE TO TALK ABOUT PIDS OR, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS ABOUT PIDS. AND RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THREE DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE REQUESTED PIDS. AND SO WE IN THE ESSENCE OF GETTING THINGS DONE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ENGAGED THEM WITH P THREE TO PUT THEM IN THE PROCESS. HOWEVER, I WOULD REQUEST AT SOME POINT WE APPROVE THE POLICY SO WE CAN PUT THEM, PUT THEM THROUGH THE POLICY AND WE'RE TREATING EVERYONE EQUALLY AND AND FAIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHRIS. GUYS, IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IN THE NEWSPAPER HERE, I GUESS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES TO THE SOUTH OF US, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR FIRST TIME PID [INAUIDBLE] AND I THINK THEY MAYBE EVEN REACHED OUT AND ASKED FOR MAYBE SOME. PITFALLS, TRIALS, TRIBULATIONS THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED IN OUR DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING IN, SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S JUST NOW COMING AROUND IN THIS AREA, THE NECK OF THE WOODS. SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPTION FOR DEVELOPERS TO GET THEIR HOUSING OR THEIR DEVELOPMENT MOVING. I THINK I'M NOT GOING TO QUOTE THEM SPECIFICALLY, BUT THIS WAS A WAY THAT THAT [INAUDIBLE] I THINK IN THE PAPER SAID SOMETHING, HOW TO HELP STIMULATE SOME ADDITIONAL HOUSING, SOME NEW HOUSING IN THEIR AREA. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOWN THERE TO THE SOUTH OF US. THERE IS ONE GENTLEMAN WHO ASKED TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC ITEM SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND BRING THEM UP. AND THEN WE'LL FINISH OUR DISCUSSION UP HERE. MR. SANDY RAY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO THE PODIUM IS YOURS SIR. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. WE HAVE THE AUSTIN COLONY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. I BELIEVE EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO GET IT ON THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS PID ON THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST SO WE CAN GET GOING. WE FILED OUR PID APPLICATION IN JANUARY. AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR AND I DON'T, QUITE FRANKLY, EXPECT TO GET IT, BUT I WANT TO ASK FOR I LIKE TO BE GRANDFATHERED OUT OF THIS POLICY BECAUSE WE FILED OUR APPLICATION IN JANUARY THAT SAID, IF I CAN I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO ENCOURAGE STAFF, WHICH I WANT TO SAY THEIR STAFF HAS WORKED VERY HARD AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH ME VERY WELL. [00:45:02] SO I COMPLIMENT THEM, BUT ENCOURAGE THEM TO KEEP GOING BECAUSE I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO PUT A FINALE TO THIS PROJECT, START CONSTRUCTION IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER. YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'VE GOT TO SAY. THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS OF THIS POLICY THAT I THINK NEED SOME REFINING. ONE IS IN THIS CAME FROM NOT FROM ME, BUT FROM TIM GREEN, OUR COUNCIL. AND WHAT TIM GREEN IS SUGGESTING IS POSSIBLY A MEETING WITH HIM AND SOME DEVELOPERS TO MEET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S STAFF TO GO THROUGH THIS IF THAT SLOWS MY PROCESS DOWN. I DON'T WANT THAT MEETING BECAUSE I NEED TO GET GOING. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT BITTY THINGS LIKE THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PAY THE CITY 10 PERCENT OF THE BOND PRIOR TO IT BEING ISSUED. WELL, YOGI BEAR SAID IT BEST. THE GAME AIN'T OVER TILL IT'S OVER AND YOU AIN'T GOT THAT MONEY UNTIL YOU GOT THAT MONEY. AND SO WE WRITE A CHECK FOR THREE, YOU KNOW, THREE MILLION DOLLAR BOND FOR THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. IT GOES TO THE CITY AND THEY DON'T ISSUE THE BONDS. YOU KNOW, WHY NOT JUST DO IT? AND JIM GREEN'S GOT SOME LANGUAGE WHERE THE MONEY IS PAID DIRECTLY TO THE CITY, CAN'T COME OUT OF BOND FUNDS CONTEMPORANEOUS WITH THE ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS, LITTLE BITTY THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY AND TIM GREEN MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK OUT OR THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO WORK OUT. BUT THOSE ARE JUST A FEW LITTLE MINOR THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IN A WORK SESSION. THAT SAID, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET MY PID ON THE AUGUST AGENDA. IF IT IF IN CITY COUNCILS WISDOM, YOU APPROVE MY PLAN DEVELOPMENT THE FIRST WEEK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. RAY. OK, TOSS IT BACK TO CHRIS. SO I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO PLAY POINT COUNTERPOINT, BUT I JUST HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. SO WE HIS PID IS IN REVIEW WITH P THREE AND THEIR WORKING ON THEIR SAP FOR THIS. SO IT'S YOU KNOW, THAT PROCESS HAS TO WORK ITSELF OUT. AND WE'RE TRYING TO THAT'S WHY WE STARTED WORK WITH HIM AND, YOU KNOW, P THREE BUILD US AND WE'RE WE'RE PAYING THE BILLS AND EVENTUALLY I KNOW SANDY RAY WILL PAY US BACK. AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH HIM TO GET THIS DONE ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE TIMELINE. AND AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THE LIKE I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, WE DON'T HAVE THE FLOW CHART YET. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT THE NINETY NINE PERCENT, NINETY NINE POINT NINE PERCENT ON THE POLICY. IF WE WORDED SOMETHING INCORRECTLY, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DISADVANTAGE ANYONE. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET THE BOND AND PAY YOUR TEN PERCENT, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S SEMANTICS OF THE THING. AND THE OTHER PART IS, I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN SAY GRANDFATHERED BECAUSE IT HAS THAT POLICY OR THAT APPLICATION WAS UNABLE TO BE REVIEWED. WE DIDN'T HAVE HADN'T HIRED AN EXPERT TO REVIEW THAT AND HAD TO BE REVIEWED WITHIN, YOU KNOW, IN ACCORDANCE TO THREE SEVENTY TWO PLUS THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FINANCIAL DATA TO BE SUBMITTED. SO I'M NOT SURE GRANDFATHERS THE RIGHT WORD FOR THIS. SO TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT CHRIS IS SAYING, I JUST NEED TO EXPRESS THAT THERE'S NO LEGAL BASIS FOR THAT GRANDFATHERING. IT'S A REQUEST FROM THE DEVELOPER. THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING IN THE STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT A CITY POLICY REGARDING YOUR EVALUATION OR THE STUDY OF THE FEASIBILITY OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS SUBJECT TO ANY KIND OF STATUTORY GRANDFATHERING. SO FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, THERE IS NO LEGAL BASIS FOR THAT TYPE OF REQUEST. AND THE OTHER THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT IS THAT PART AND PARCEL OF DETERMINING WHETHER A PID PETITION IS ADEQUATE IS AN ANALYSIS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. SO ALTHOUGH A DEVELOPER MAY HAVE GIVEN YOU A PID PETITION, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE ANALYSIS FOR WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 372 HAVE COMMENCED, WHICH IS PART OF HAVING A PID POLICY THE HUGE COMPONENT OF HAVING A PID POLICY IS THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR NOT ONLY WHETHER IT BENEFITS THE CITY, BUT DOES IT TRACK THE STATUTE? DOES IT TRACK WHAT YOUR STATE LAW SAYS YOU CAN DO WITH AN ASSESSMENT? OK, THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT, TAKE YOUR TIME. UM, SO FIRST OFF, MR. RAY THANKS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. RAY IS SAYING, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE GRANDFATHER REQUIREMENT THAT HE'S [00:50:03] ASKING FOR, BUT IT WOULD SEEM PRETTY LOGICAL THAT YOU COULD TAKE WHAT HE'S ALREADY SUBMITTED AND COMPARE IT TO WHAT YOU HAVE. AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A GOOD TEST TO LOOK AT IT ON THE FIRST ONE AND SAY WHAT? HOW FAR OFF ARE WE BETWEEN WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE AND WHAT HE'S REQUESTING VERSUS WHAT THE NEW ONE IS? AND IT ACTUALLY I'M NOT SAYING IT'S TO HELP HIM, BUT IT ALSO HELPS US TO KIND OF VET OUT OUR POLICY TO SEE JUST HOW HOW MUCH IS CHANGING AND WHAT'S IT DOING, BECAUSE FOR US ON COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT ARE THOSE DIFFERENCES. I LIKE WHAT MR. RAY SAID. I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU'RE DOING A PID AND IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, WHY WOULD YOU PUT THE MONEY UP FRONT IF THE CITY HASN'T GIVEN YOU A PID YET OR GONE OUT FOR THE BOND? SO I COULD SEE THAT POINT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT MY BIG ISSUE WITH PIDS IN GENERAL IS I DON'T LIKE THEM. I REALLY THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE VERY LEERY ABOUT ISSUING ANY PIDS UNLESS THAT PID IS BENEFITING THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN. NOT A DEVELOPMENT, NOT ONE AREA, BUT THE CITY. BECAUSE THAT'S THE DRAIN ON THE RESOURCES, JUST BECAUSE YOU PUT A ROAD IN OR PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND DRAINAGE IN YOUR LITTLE AREA, THAT ONLY HELPS TO SERVE YOUR AREA. IT DOESN'T HELP TO SERVE THE FULL CITY. IF YOU UPSIZE THE LIFT STATION, THAT SERVICES MORE THAN JUST YOUR AREA. YOU PUT IN A ROAD THAT SERVICES MORE THAN JUST YOUR AREA. THOSE ARE, TO ME, EXAMPLES OF A PID THAT'S WORTHY OR A DEVELOPMENTS WORTHY OF A PID. SO THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKE ON PIDS AND KIND OF WHERE I'M THINKING WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. I APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND TAKEN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT. I WILL ASK CHRIS, THIS DOES NOT COME FROM THE CITY OF SUGARLAND, DID IT? NO, IT DID NOT. THANK YOU. DID IT COME FROM ROCKDALE? NO IT DID NOT. AND I FEEL COMPELLED TO ADD THAT I HAVE CHANGED IT ENOUGH THAT THE CITY THAT IT CAME FROM PROBABLY WON'T RECOGNIZE THE FIRST FIVE OR SIX PAGES. BUT MUNICIPAL ATTORNEYS DO BORROW FROM EACH OTHER. BUT NO, IT'S NOT FROM SUGARLAND. BUT JUST LIKE YOU SAID, JOHN. SO APPENDIX ONE IN THEIR TALKS ABOUT THE CRITERIA FOR SUBMITTING A PID. AND AND SO YOU'LL GET THE FEEDBACK FROM P THREE SAYING DID MEET, DID MEET, DIDN'T MEET. GOOD. YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS FOR YOUR DECISION TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT'S MEETING THE STATE REQUIREMENTS AND BENEFITING THE CITY OF ANGLETON. I UNDERSTAND MR. RAY'S TIMELINE, AND WE'VE ALREADY ASKED HIM TO WAIT THIS LAST TIME TO TO REDO THE ZONING ISSUE, BUT IT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD REGARDLESS OF THE POLICY. ALL WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS CODIFY THE POLICY AND THEN HAVE HIM MEET THE YOU KNOW, HE'S ALREADY SUBMITTED. WE'RE ALREADY REVIEWING. WE'RE DEVELOPING THE SAP. SO IT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S IN MOTION. SO IF FOR SOME REASON THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT SAY NOT JUST MR. RAY, BUT ANY DEVELOPER THAT'S ALREADY IN PROCESS HAS AN ISSUE WITH IT. IT COMES BACK TO US FOR THE FINAL DECISION. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT AFTER THAT ASSESSMENT, IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL FOR WHETHER YOU WANT TO EXECUTE OR NOT. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU MAKE YOUR DETERMINATION TO MOVE IT FORWARD OR NOT. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PUBLIC MEETING. AND SO THERE'S AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JOHN SNYDER WILL BE HERE TO INTERPRET DATA IF THERE'S THAT KIND OF THING. BUT IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE BECAUSE WE'RE SUBMITTING FIRST UP IS, IS IT FEASIBLE, MEANING 372, PLUS THE ECONOMIC OR FINANCIAL PIECE, THEN IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION. AND ONCE THAT'S ON, THEN IT'S THEN IT'S JUST A PROCESS. AND FOLLOWING THE PROCESS AND LIKE MR. RAY SAID, YOU KNOW, DO WE WORD SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY BUSINESS FRIENDLY? AND WE CAN ADJUST THOSE THINGS WORK, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO THINK THROUGH HOW THIS THE MECHANISM WORKS HERE IN ANGLETON, NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A FLOWCHART SOME OF THOSE THINGS. MY ONLY TAKE IS THE INTERPRETATION OF THAT CLAUSE WHERE IT ASKED IF IT SERVICES THE CITY OR THE CITIZENS. IT IS. IT IS. AND I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION OF WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS. IT'S BEEN KNOWN. BUT BUT SO HELP ME CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JOHN. I MEAN, YOU ALL CAN PUT THAT CRITERIA IS RIGHT. SO YOU CAN DEFINE WHETHER WHAT FOR THE GOOD OF ANGLETON IS AS A CRITERIA. [00:55:04] SO WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD TO THE POLICY. MY RECOMMENDATION IS LET'S GET THE THE FRAMEWORK OUT THERE AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND GET GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO MODIFY THAT. SURE. THE FIRST IS RELATED TO THE COMMENT ABOUT OVER SIZING AND BENEFIT IN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE THAT CAN BE DONE. IT JUST CAN'T ALL BE FUNDED WITH PID. SO YOU CAN ONLY PAY FOR THE PORTION THAT DIRECTLY BENEFITS THE PROJECT. SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF THE PROJECT REQUIRES A TWO LANE ROAD, BUT THEY UPSIZE IT TO A FOUR LANE ROAD, THEY CAN FUND TWO OF THE LANES WITH THE PID TWO OF THE LANES HAVE TO BE FUNDED PRIVATELY AND SO THE CITY CAN REQUIRE. AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S TOUGH TO PUT IN A POLICY SAYING WE WANT YOU TO TURN THE TWO LANE INTO A FOUR LANE BECAUSE IT'S WE NEED TO KNOW WHICH ROAD YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY STAFF CAN SAY. THIS WOULD REALLY BE BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT'S PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT WE WANT TO SEE. AND SO A LOT OF IT IS SUBJECTIVE AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE REALLY UP TO THE DEVELOPER COMMAND AND PRESENT, BECAUSE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING IS A COMMON ENHANCEMENT, BUT EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF THAT ENHANCED LANDSCAPING. SO IT'S REALLY COMING IN AND HAVE THE DEVELOPER PRESENT, USUALLY THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT OR ENGINEER, AND SAYING HERE'S THE PLAN THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD. AND THEN YOU ALL MAKE THE DECISION. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS ENHANCED OR IS IT IS WHAT WE SEE EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY AND THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT IT. AND SO I AGREE WITH YOU, THOUGH, THE PURPOSE OF THE PID POLICY AND AND THE CITIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED IT IS MAKING SURE THAT THE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE RECEIVING THE PID FUNDING ARE ENHANCED AND ARE REALLY BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FOR A POINT WHERE THIS POLICY IS IN PLACE, THAT WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPER COMES TO TOWN, THEY'VE GOT THEIR EYE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS THEIR DREAM ABOUT WHAT TO DO THEY'RE HANDED THIS. AND EVERYBODY GOES THROUGH THIS UP FRONT AND THEY MAKE A DECISION THEY THE DEVELOPER MAKES A DECISION IF HE WANTS TO PURSUE THIS OR NOT. IS IT BENEFICIAL TO THEM OR NOT? AND THEN COME BACK TO THE CITY, GO THROUGH THE [INAUDIBLE] GROUP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS AND GET ALL THIS STUFF AIRED OUT AT THE BEGINNING. SO IT'S A SMOOTH SHOT THROUGH THERE BECAUSE HAVING TO RENEGOTIATE AND RENEGOTIATE AND RENEGOTIATE, IT JUST IT JUST WEARS EVERYONE DOWN, I THINK. AND IT'S I THINK THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND STEP ONE IN THE POLICY IS STEP ONE IS FIGURING OUT, IS THIS A PROJECT THAT STAFF IS GOING TO SUPPORT CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO SUPPORT FOR THE PID? AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THE ANSWER THAT, YES, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE, WE WANT TO DO A PID AT THAT POINT, WE BRING IN THE WHOLE PROFESSIONAL TEAM FROM FINANCIAL ADVISER BOND COUNCIL OURSELVES AND WE GET GOING. AND I WAS JUST DOCUMENTING AND AND REALLY PAPER IN THE DEAL THAT IT'S NO LONGER TRYING TO NEGOTIATE. YOU KNOW, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE GETTING FUNDED. THAT'S ALL KNOWN NOW, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE PROJECT GOT THE GREEN LIGHT FROM COUNCIL AND AND WE'RE READY TO GO WITH THAT AT THAT POINT. I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR COMMENT THAT IF A CITIZENS LET'S SAY I HAVE AN AREA THAT I'M DEVELOPING AND CURRENTLY THE LIFT STATION THAT'S THERE IS SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THE CURRENT AREA. BUT A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND WE ASK, OK, WE HAVE AN AGING LIFE STATION RIGHT HERE THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. IT WOULD STILL SERVICE AT THE POINT THAT IT'S AT FOR THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT. BUT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT GOING NEXT TO IT, WE WOULD ASK THEM TO UPSIZE THAT LIFT STATION. IS THAT VALID FOR A PID. SO USING A NUMERICAL EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAD FIVE HUNDRED EXISTING UNITS ON A LIFT STATION AND NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN AT FIVE HUNDRED UNITS, SO YOU BUILT A LIFT STATION WITH THE CAPACITY FOR A THOUSAND [INAUDIBLE] THE PID COULD FUND HALF OF THE LIFT STATION AND THE OTHER HALF WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM PRIVATE FINANCING OR SO WHETHER THAT'S DEVELOPER OR WHETHER THAT'S THE CITY CONTRIBUTING CASH OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF. THAT'S THE NEGOTIATION AT THAT POINT. AND WE'VE SEEN IT EVERYTHING FROM CITIES TELLING THE DEVELOPER. WE WANT YOU TO FINANCE THAT IN RETURN FOR GETTING THE PID TO GIVING IMPACT FEE CREDITS OR, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S PART OF THE COMP PLAN OR FEE WAIVERS. THERE'S A VARIETY OF MECHANISMS TO GET THAT PID. AND IF I HAVE A FOUR LANE ROAD THAT'S ALREADY THERE EXISTING AND ASKS THE DEVELOPER TO GO THROUGH AND PUT THE FOUR LANE THROUGH THE REST OF THE WAY, IS THAT SUBJECTIVE TO A PID, THE FOUR LANES ALREADY THERE, IT JUST ENDS AND THEY'RE GOING TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT WILL KIND OF TIE INTO IT. [01:00:01] SO THE ROADWAYS ARE A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE YOU CAN MAKE THE CASE THAT WE HAD TO EVEN TO BUILD ONE HOUSE. YOU HAD TO BUILD THE ROAD TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE. AND SO IN GENERAL, ROADWAYS ARE EASIER THAN SEWER OR WATER BECAUSE ENGINEERS KNOW IF IT'S OVERSIZED OR NOT. AND SO WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE WATER AND SEWER YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT TEST. THE ROADWAYS, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE WIGGLE ROOM. BUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL [INAUDIBLE] THEY'LL LOOK AT ALL OF THIS AND THEY DO LOOK VERY CAREFULLY BECAUSE ON THE SAP, WE'LL PUT MAPS OF ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO IT JUST IT HAS TO PASS THE [INAUDIBLE] TEST. AND SO IF IT'S A IF IT'S A ROADWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FUND IT WITH A PID. BUT IF IT'S CONNECTING AND BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD TO GET TO THE PROJECT, THAT'S GOING TO BE PID ELIGIBLE. WE HAVE PROJECT WE'RE FUNDING MILES OF OFF SITE, WATER LINE AND SEWER LINE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT. COUNCIL, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FEE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK IS FIFTY THOUSAND THAT'S LIKE A TARGET NUMBER IS THAT AN ACTUAL FEE OR IS IT LIKE A DEPOSIT? SO THERE'S THE TWO FEES. THE FIRST IS FIFTEEN THOUSAND APPLICATION, AND THAT'S THE APPLICATION FEE. AND THAT'S NONREFUNDABLE. THAT'S GENERALLY COVERING CITY STAFF TIME. AND OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL BE THERE SUPPORTING BOND COUNCIL, WHOEVER ELSE NEEDS TO CHIME IN. BUT REALLY, IT'S IT'S FIGURING OUT IS THE PROJECT THAT'S BEING PRESENTED, MEETING THE PID POLICY IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENTS. SO THAT'S WHERE CITIES REALLY LOOKING AT IT CAREFULLY AND SAYING, IS THIS A PROJECT THAT THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A NEW PID? AND THEN THE FIFTY THOUSAND IS REALLY WHEN WE GET THE THUMBS UP THAT, YEAH, THIS IS A PID THAT THE CITY WANTS. NOW, WE COME IN, WE'VE GOT THE SERVICES ASSESSMENT PLAN. THERE'S THE APPRAISER, IF WE'RE DOING BONDS, A FINANCIAL ADVISER, BOND COUNCIL, PUBLICATION FEES, ALL THAT STUFF IS COVERED BY THE FIFTY THOUSAND. AND IF THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER AND IT REALLY VARIES FROM DEAL TO DEAL, IF IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD PID, WHICH RIGHT NOW THE PIDS THAT YOU'LL HAVE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL, SOME OF THE PIDS WE'RE WORKING ON ARE THOUSANDS OF ACRES. SO THESE THESE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL AND PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THAT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER. I KNOW TRAVIS COUNTY IS A CLIENT OF MINE AND THEY REQUIRE LIKE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE WELL, THEY DON'T DO SMALL PIDS AND THEY KIND OF SAY WE'RE NOT. IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO A PID, IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY TEN MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE SO. AND FOR FORT WORTH IS NOT ONE OF OUR CLIENTS, BUT I THINK THEIR POLICY SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE AT LEAST IT'S LIKE TWO THOUSAND ACRES FOR THEM TO EVEN TALK TO YOU ABOUT DOING IT. WE DON'T HAVE A MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENTS IN HERE DO WE? NO. KIND OF LIKE THAT YOU SAID THAT. WELL, CERTAINLY YOU CAN YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND PROBABLY NOT RIGHT NOW, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME DISCUSSION, BUT CERTAINLY YOU CAN PUT MINIMUM THRESHOLDS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, ACREAGE NUMBER OF HOMES, WHATEVER, THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER OR NOT CONSIDER A PIDS. SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PID POLICY, CORRECT? HOW MANY ACTIVE PIDS DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IN THE HOPPER? WE HAVE THREE. THREE. AND I THINK ON TOP OF THOSE THREE, THERE'S A COUPLE MORE THAT ARE WELL, THEY'RE CIRCLING, KICKING, KICKING THE TIRES AT LEAST. BECAUSE WE ADOPTED A POLICY DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE APPROVING A PID. WELL RIGHT BUT SO AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT OPTION TO APPROVAL, OF COURSE. WE'RE NOT GUARANTEEING APPROVAL PATH, WE'RE JUST PROVIDING A PROCESS. SO BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE ON PIDS, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE USUALLY TAKE FOR A PID TO GO FROM THE FIRST CONVERSATION MAYBE TO FINAL SIGNATURE JUST IN YOUR ROUGH GUESS ESTIMATE? YEAH. SO IT'S A PRETTY WIDE RANGE, FIRST TIME ISSUER'S FOR IF WE'RE TALKING A BOND ISSUE, IT ALWAYS YOU ALWAYS ADD A FEW MONTHS JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LEARNING CURVE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. SO IN GENERAL, THE GOOD RULE OF THUMB AS A DEVELOPER COMES IN WITH A GOOD PETITION WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED THEIR ENGINEERING'S IN PLACE AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED TO GET GOING START TO FINISH. [01:05:01] IT'S USUALLY YOU CAN USUALLY DO IT IN SIX MONTHS. IF IT'S A CITY THAT'S DONE MULTIPLE PIDS AND WE KIND OF HAVE A SYSTEM DOWN, A LOT OF TIMES WE CAN DO IT IN FOUR MONTHS. SOME OF IT, THOUGH, IT JUST REQUIRES TO CREATE THE PID. YOU GOT TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN CREATE THE PID LEVY ASSESSMENT AND YOU HAVE TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN ACTUALLY, IT'S ALSO A TWO STEP PROCESS ITS FOUR COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHICH JUST IN AND OF ITSELF, BY THE TIME YOU ARE GETTING THAT ON THE AGENDA IT STRETCHES IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WITH A IF YOU'RE DOING A CASH FLOW PID, WHICH WOULD BE NO BONDS, WHERE THE DEVELOPERS ARE GETTING REPAID OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD, GENERALLY, THAT'S A LITTLE SIMPLER BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO DRAFT ALL THE BOND DOCUMENTS. SO REALLY, AT THAT POINT, IT'S A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT. AND YOU CAN PROBABLY DO A START TO FINISH ON THAT IN THREE TO FOUR MONTHS WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEM. AND IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO GO FASTER, YOU'D PROBABLY GET EVEN CONDENSE SCHEDULE. AND WE ALSO HAVE PIDS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR TWO YEARS, SO THAT MAKES US FEEL BETTER. YEAH, IN GENERAL, THOUGH, KIND OF ONCE EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD, AND SAYS, OK, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS AND YOU'VE GOT THE TEAM. USUALLY YOU HAVE CALLS THAT ARE PROBABLY EVERY TWO WEEKS JUST CHECKING IN ON THE STATUS OF THE DOCUMENTS. AND SIX MONTHS IS A PRETTY GOOD. AND JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, THE POLICY PROCEDURES FOR BOND PIDS, NOT THE OTHER KIND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW WITH GREEN TRAILS AND RIVERWOOD. RIGHT. BECAUSE THEIR ASSESSMENT BASED BUT THE CURRENT PIDS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW ARE NOT BOND PIDS. THEY ARE THE OTHER THE ONE THAT YOU JUST SAID. RIVERWOOD IS PROPOSING THAT'S RIGHT. KIBER RESERVE IS PROPOSING CASH-FLOW AND THEN AUSTIN COLONY IS PROPOSING PID BONDS. AND DO YOU REMEMBER, WITH GREEN TRIALS THAT THE ONE THAT WE HAVE ON THE SOUTH EAST SIDE OF TOWN THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSION. OK, I'M EXCITED TO GET TO THIS POINT. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE WORKING DOCUMENT. THERE IS GOING TO BE TIME THAT'S GOING TO BE MODIFIED AND, YOU KNOW, PUT DIFFERENT NUMBERS HERE AND THERE AND YONDER AND STUFF. SO IT'S STILL VERY SUBJECTIVE. PARDON ME. I SAID IT'S STILL PRETTY SUBJECTIVE IN SOME CASES WHERE WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION, WHICH WILL NOT BIND US IN THE FUTURE. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE PID POLICY AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND GETTING US TO THIS POINT. AS COUNCILMAN BOOTH SAID, WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE A ROADMAP NOW MAKE A LITTLE EASIER ON STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO ONCE THEY GET HERE UP TO THIS POINT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO'S HAD SOME INPUT. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIDE. THAT MOTION CARRIES. [13. Discussion and possible action on financial services consulting agreement with Hilltop Securities, Inc. for Public Improvement Districts.] CONSULTING AGREEMENT WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES INC FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS. OK, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE PID TRANSACTIONS. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF WE HAD OUR OWN FINANCIAL ADVISOR THAT WOULD GIVE US AN OBJECTIVE OPINION RELATED TO THE PID. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ASKED HILLTOP SECURITIES OR JOE MORROW, WHO'S BEEN WORKING FOR US SINCE THE FINANCIAL [INAUDIBLE] NINETEEN NINETY NINE, TO OFFER THOSE ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO BE AN OBJECTIVE PARTY TO REVIEW THE PID'S. SO HE'S PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT AGREEMENT TO DO THAT AND THE HILLTOP WOULD BE PAID OUT OF THE OUT OF THE BOND PROCEEDS OR FUNDED BY THE DEVELOPER. SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY COST TO US, BUT WE WOULD HAVE OF OUR OBJECTIVE FINANCIAL ADVISOR REVIEW THE ALL THE PID DOCUMENTS. SO WE'LL RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT, THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSULTING AGREEMENT WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES AND [INAUDIBLE], THAT'S NO MONEY OUT OF OUR POCKETS. IT'S ALL GOING FROM THE DEVELOPERS, CORRECT? RIGHT. EITHER THE BOND PROCEEDS OR THE RIGHT, BUT WE WOULDN'T PAY ANYTHING. IS THAT PART OF THE UP FRONT MONEY? JUST TALKED ABOUT, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ON THE SECOND PAGE OF HIS PROPOSED AGREEMENT, IT SAYS THAT HE WOULD GET AN ADVISORY FEE FROM THE DEBT ISSUANCE, FROM THE DEBT OF [01:10:06] APPROXIMATELY TWO PERCENT. SO HE DOESN'T GET PAID TILL THE BOND IS ISSUED. IF THERE IS A NORMALLY THAT'S THE CASE. BUT THERE IS A PART WHERE HE COULD ASK FOR AN UPFRONT FEE, BUT THAT UPFRONT FEE WOULD BE FUNDED BY THE DEVELOPER IF HE DID. JOHN, THAT'S ON PAGE THIRTEEN OF HIS DOCUMENT. WE HIRED FMS. WE HIRED P THREE. NOW WE'RE HIRING HILLTOP. THIS WHOLE PROCESS, THE EXPERTS. YES, MAYOR I MOVE WE APPROVE THE FINANCIAL SERVICES CONSULTING AGREEMENT WITH THE HILLTOP SECURITIES FOR THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT'S. SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU. MR. MOORE WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT. ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE HIM. HE ALWAYS HAS GOOD NEWS. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO NUMBER 14. AND JUDGING ON WHAT GUYS ARE DOING, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. AND WE'RE GOING TO ROCK ON WITH OUR REGULAR ITEM NUMBER 14 DISCUSSION ON THE FISCAL YEAR [14. Discussion on the FY 2021-2022 Proposed Budget.] 2021-2022 PROPOSED BUDGET, MR. CHRIS FLOOR IS YOURS. TWO POINT ZERO. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. LET'S LOOK AT THIS ITEM THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WE PASSED OUT THAT HAS A CHART ON THE FRONT PAGE. THAT'LL BE THE FOLLOW UP FROM SATURDAY. JOHN WANTED A CHART OF ALL THE ACTUAL TYPES OF EXPENSES. SO THAT'S THE CHART WITH HOW IT WOULD LOOK FOR THE GENERAL FUND. YOU CAN SEE THAT 57 PERCENT OF THE COSTS IN THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE THE PERSONAL SERVICES, WHICH WOULD BE THE PAYROLL, AS WELL AS ALL THE BENEFITS, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 40 PERCENT AND THEN 25 PERCENT WOULD BE TOTAL SERVICES. AND THE OTHERS ARE OR YOU KNOW 6 AND 4 PERCENT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, THAT'LL TELL US WHAT THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE FROM SATURDAY. SO ON THE CAB, WE OBVIOUSLY REDUCED THAT FOUR HUNDRED FORTY THOUSAND FROM THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO BE DOWN TO SIXTY THOUSAND WHICH IS GOING TO BE FOR THE LANDSCAPING OF THE MEDIAN. AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGES ON THE REVENUE WE TALKED ABOUT, I HAD TO INCREASE THE GUN REIMBURSEMENT TO TIE TO WHAT THE PD HAD IN EXPENSES. THEY JUST WE DON'T MAKE MONEY AND WE DON'T LOSE MONEY. SHE JUST NEEDS THE TIME. BUT THAT WAS ADDITIONAL INCOME THAT WAS PICKED UP BY MAKING THAT ADJUSTMENT. AND THEN IN THE PD, WE MADE THE ADJUSTMENT FOR SIXTY THOUSAND FOR THE BODY CAMERAS AND TWENTY THOUSAND FOR THE CELL PHONE DUMP. AND THEN THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO PAY TWENTY THOUSAND. THAT WAS A FORTY THOUSAND DOLLAR PROJECT. AND THEN MARTHA, WE REDUCED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE REDUCED FORTY FIVE THOUSAND FOR THE RETAIL SERVICES TO OFFSET THAT. AND THEN ALSO WE WENT AND LOOKED AT SWAGIT. AND IT DOES APPEAR THAT EVEN THOUGH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE THE PART THAT PART OF THE BILL, THAT'S THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND, IT LOOKS LIKE IT LEADS INTO THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL ONGOING SERVICES. SO I DON'T THINK THE CAMERA PART REPEATS. SO WE CAN REDUCE THAT. AND WE DID REDUCE IT BY TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND BECAUSE WE REDUCED IT BY [INAUDIBLE] THOSE CAMERAS, AND WE ADDED BACK A CUSHION OF WHAT WE WOULD HAVE IF WE HAD ANY EXTRA MEETINGS, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT IT'S ONLY 50 MEETINGS, I THINK ARE INCLUDED. SO THAT GETS US TO A SURPLUS OF THIRTY THOUSAND WHERE WE'RE STARTING OUT TODAY ON THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN LET'S JUST FLIP THROUGH THESE OTHER PAGES. PAGE THREE, THAT'S THE ACTUAL NUMBERS THAT BACK UP THAT CHART. IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, THEN IF YOU LOOK AT FOUR AND FIVE, THAT'S THE NEW SUMMARY. HOW IT WOULD BE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND WITH THAT THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLAR SURPLUS. PAGE SIX IS THE LAST PAGE. IF EVERYBODY WOULD GET ON THAT PAGE, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WANT TO START TODAY WITH THE GENERAL FUND. WHEN WE STARTED THE SATURDAY WORKSHOP, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NINE HUNDRED SIXTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS OF PROJECTS THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN OUT IN ORDER TO BALANCE THE BUDGET WITH NO NEW REVENUE RATE. AND TWO OF THOSE HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF THE LIST NOW, BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO FIND MONEY IN THE PD TO ADD THOSE BACK. BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME PROJECTS FOR THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE COMING TODAY. [01:15:03] EMS IN GLENN'S DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE EMERGENCY RADIOS OF FORTY FIVE THOUSAND THAT ARE STILL NOT IN THE BUDGET. IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. WE HAVE THREE BIG PROJECTS, THE CITY HALL HVAC SYSTEM OF SIXTY THOUSAND THE [INAUDIBLE] FIFTY THOUSAND AND THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN ONE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND SO THAT'S TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT'S NOT IN THE REALM OF SERVICES THAT THEY DID REQUEST. SO WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET, WHETHER WE CAN FIT ANY OF THAT IN. AND THEN BEFORE WE START, MOST OF THE DEPARTMENTS TODAY ARE GOING TO BE THE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS. BUT BEFORE WE START THAT, LET'S LOOK AT THE WATER [INAUDIBLE]. IT ALL TIES TOGETHER. THAT'S THE OTHER TWO PAGES THAT I HANDED OUT JUST NOW IT HAS THE NUMBERS WITH THE GREEN AND BLUE. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS WHERE THE WATER FUND AND UTILITY WATERFRONT IS IN BALANCE. NOW, BASED ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED ON SATURDAY, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE THAT SEVEN DOLLAR INCREASE FOR THE PEOPLE AT FIVE THOUSAND GALLONS. AND OF COURSE, IF YOU PURCHASED MORE THAN FIVE THOUSAND GALLONS, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE IF YOU PURCHASED LESS IT WOULD BE LESS. WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE [INAUDIBLE]? I MEAN, FIVE THOUSAND OR LESS? BE FIVE DOLLARS ON THE SEWER SIDE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MOST NEEDS ARE AND TWO DOLLARS ON WATER. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE AVERAGE FOR A PERSON BUYING FIVE THOUSAND GALLONS WOULD BE A SEVEN DOLLAR INCREASE. IF THEY BUY LESS THAN FIVE THOUSAND GALLONS IN A MONTH, THEIR INCREASE IS GOING TO BE LESS THIS [INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A TWO THOUSAND CUSTOMER IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR DOLLARS. IF YOU BUY MORE THAN FIVE THOUSAND GALLONS, IT OBVIOUSLY COULD BE MORE PER MONTH. SO SEVEN DOLLARS A MONTH. EIGHTY FOUR DOLLARS A YEAR. THAT'S THAT WOULD BE THE AVERAGE INCREASE FOR SOMEONE BUYING FIVE THOUSAND GALLONS. AND THEN WE THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE WERE WE GOT THE UTILITY FUND IS COVERING THEIR COSTS THAT ARE IN THE GENERAL. BUT IT'S OFFSET BY THE FACT THAT WITH THE FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE ARE TRANSFERRING FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE THAT WE THAT WE PUT IN TO COVER THOSE PROJECTS. AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE ON THE NEXT PAGE. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET WE HAD TAKEN THE SIX HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND OUT AND THEN WE ADJUSTED THAT TO TAKE OUT THE EXCAVATOR WAS FIFTY THOUSAND. WE ADJUSTED THE MEMBRANE FROM ONE FIFTY TO TWENTY FIVE. SO THIS IS THE FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OF PROJECTS. THE FIRE HYDRANT REPLACEMENT, THE REPAIRS, THE WATER LINE PROJECTS, THE SEWER LINE PROJECTS AND THE LIFT STATION REHABILITATION. SO THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOW IN THE BUDGET AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET DONE. AND THE WATERFRONT IS IN BALANCE BASED ON THAT INFORMATION. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS THE WATERFRONT TODAY UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS HAS AN ITEM TO DISCUSS WE'RE GOING TO START WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN THE GENERAL FUND. WAIT YOU TOOK OUT FOUR HUNDRED FORTY ON THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND THEN THESE PROJECTS YOU HAVE ON THE UTILITY SIDE WERE THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT FUNDING FROM THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND WE END UP WITH THAT FOUR FIGURE. BUT THIS SAYS FOUR FIFTY. THAT WAS FOUR FORTY. WHERE AM I MISSING THE TEN. WELL, REMEMBER, THAT MONEY IS NOT PART OF THIS YEAR'S GENERAL FUND BUDGET. THAT MONEY COME FROM GENERAL FUND BALANCE. SO ORIGINALLY, WE WERE GOING TO TAKE FIVE HUNDRED OUT OF GENERAL FUND BALANCE TO COVER THE CAB PROJECTS. WE REDUCED THAT TO SIXTY. THAT WAS FOUR FORTY. WHEN WE GOT TO THESE PROJECTS, WE SAID THESE ARE THE PROJECTS WE WANT TO PUT IN AND IT'S FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND. SO FOUR FIFTY NOW WOULD COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE TO COVER THESE PROJECTS AND GET TRANSFERRED TO TO THE WATER FUND, WHICH OFFSETS THE COST. AND TRANSPARENCY HERE INSTEAD OF REMOVING FOUR FORTY OUT YOU'RE REMOVING FOUR FIFTY. YES, WE'RE MOVING FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE WATER FUND TO COVER THESE PROJECTS FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. YES. WE'RE GOING TO BE OK, IF MEMBRANE COMES IN HIGHER THAN TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. WELL, REMEMBER, THOUGH, THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW MEMBRANE AND WE MAY NEED ONE IN THREE TO FIVE YEARS BECAUSE REPLACEMENT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BUILD UP THE CASH TO PAY FOR IT WHEN IT WHEN IT HAPPENS. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION YOU'RE NOT PRIVY TO YET. OK, SO WE'VE HAD AN UPDATE FROM FREESE NICHOLS TODAY. [01:20:02] SO BASED ON HIGHER ARSENIC LEVELS IN THE WATER AND BASED ON A EIGHT HOUR DAY OPERATION, WE GO FROM THREE, ALMOST FOUR YEARS TO ABOUT ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF OR BETWEEN A YEAR AND YEAR AND A HALF. BUT THE REALITY OF THAT IS WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE PUT IT IN OPERATION. SO IF WE ONLY END UP WITH FOUR HOURS A DAY AND AN ARSENIC LEVELS CHANGE AND THEY GO DOWN, THEN THE MEMBRANE COULD LAST LONGER. SO COSTS FOR THE PROJECT HAVE GONE UP, BUT WE FOUND A SOLUTION TO TAKE OUT ABOUT ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO FIGURING OUT WHAT REALITY IS. AND SO, AGAIN, AFTER OPERATING IT FOR A YEAR TO TWO, WE'LL KNOW BETTER ABOUT HOW LONG THAT MEMBRANE WILL LAST AND WHAT OUR OPERATING EXPENSES ARE. I MEAN, IT'S TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO THAT'S WHAT I PUT IN THERE. IT MAY MAKE MORE SENSE JUST TO WAIT TILL WE KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BECAUSE IT'S COMING OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE THE MONEY WILL STILL BE THERE. AND THEN INSTEAD OF MOVING IN, NOT KNOWING WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS, IT'D BE BETTER TO WAIT ON THAT TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND UNTIL IT'S DONE. I HATE TO ASK THIS QUESTION. MR. BOOTH, YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT FOR ME HERE. WE HAVE A WATER WELL THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO PULL ONLINE YET. AND I THINK HOW MUCH DID WE SINK INTO THIS PROJECT ALREADY? BASICALLY PAYING FOR IT AGAIN EVERY YEAR IN MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND EVERY YEAR IN MAINTENANCE ALMOST. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE WITH THIS MEMBRANE OR THE MEDIAN. WHAT CAN WE IF WE DECIDED TO JUST SHUT THAT WELL DOWN AND MOVE IT TO, SAY, A WATER WELL, NUMBER EIGHT, IF IT WAS BETTER, HOW MUCH THAT CAN CARRY, HOW MUCH CAN THAT GO OVER? OR IS IT BASICALLY JUST A DOWN TO THE GROUND AND START ALL OVER? NO YOU COULD TAKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE PUMPS AND MAYBE THE TANK, IF IT ISN'T ROTTED OUT, THE WELL IT JUST GETS CEMENTED PLUGGED AND ABANDONED. SOME OF THE PUMPS AND SUCH CAN BE ELECTRONICS CAN BE MOVED AROUND, BUT. DEPENDS UPON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE SYSTEM TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PUMPS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE ARE GOING TO BE USABLE IN ANOTHER PLACE. HOPEFULLY THAT CAN BE. BECAUSE EVERY ELEVEN YEARS WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR ANOTHER ONE OF THESE WELLS THAT SAME WELL, EVERY ELEVEN YEARS AT THIS RATE. IS IT REALLY WORTH THE MONEY AND INVESTMENT, IF SOME OF IT CAN BE SALVAGED AND MOVED TO A DIFFERENT WELL THAT WOULD SERVICE AT A LOWER COST. REMEMBER, WE GOT TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THAT NEW WELL IS POTENTIALLY USABLE. SO I'M JUST SAYING, IF IT IS. YES, WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ANYWAYS. RIGHT? RIGHT. I MEAN, SO WE ALREADY KNOW WE NEED MORE WATER. IF WE NEED MORE GROUND WATER TO AUGMENT [INAUDIBLE] AND DEVELOPMENTS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. WASN'T THAT WELL PART OF A GRANT? WELL I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT TOO SO I THINK WE'RE KIND OF IN A BIND TO FOLLOW THROUGH THROW THAT QUESTION OUT THERE. VALID QUESTION, JOHN. I GET IT. YEAH, BUT IT'S GOING TO PAY. WE'VE GOT ABOUT ANOTHER ONE IN 10 YEARS. WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO DO MEDIA. WE DIDN'T [INAUDIBLE] BE THIS MUCH MORE. IT WAS ALWAYS MY WORRY FROM THE VERY START WHENEVER WE FIRST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT. WHEN YOU START ENCOUNTERING TOXINS IN THE WATER, YOU GOT TO MAKE A BIG DECISION AT THAT POINT IN TIME. RIGHT. AND I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE DECISION MAKING [INAUDIBLE] BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND BERATE ANYBODY THAT MADE A DECISION BACK THEN. BUT IT APPEARED TO HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE A LESSER WISE DECISION TO GO AHEAD AND PRODUCE THAT WELL THERE. JUST PRAY THAT THE TOXINS GO DOWN AND THE LEVEL OF OK, YOU GOOD JOHN. YEAH, OK, CHRIS, GO AHEAD, SIR. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE OTHER GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS, WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THANK YOU, CHRIS. [01:25:10] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL PUT THAT ACCOUNTING HAT BACK ON. FUND ACCOUNTING, YEAH, FUND ACCOUNTING. DOES IT FIT? SO YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY NOTICED THAT MY BUDGET FOR OUR DEPARTMENT LOOKS IT LOOKS KIND OF INFLATED AND THERE'S A FEW REASONS FOR THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. SO FIRST OFF, WE MERGED THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S ALL UNDER OUR DOMAIN. SO THAT SAID, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT HISTORICALLY HAVE NEVER BEEN BUDGETED TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SUCH AS LEGAL FOR FIFTY THOUSAND, ENGINEERING FOR ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND POSTAGE AND PUBLIC NOTICES FOR A LITTLE OVER SIX THOUSAND. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS BY TAKING THOSE OUT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT NECESSARILY ARE NOT SPENDING THOSE FUNDS, IT HELPS US TRACK EXPENDITURES A LOT BETTER. THEREFORE, WE HAVE MORE ACCURATE BUDGETS IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT'S A BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE DONE IT THAT WAY THIS YEAR. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE BIG TICKET ITEM ISSUES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. WE DID MAKE A REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION TO THE TUNE OF ONE HUNDRED EIGHT THOUSAND. THAT'S ANOTHER BIG TICKET ITEM. REASON BEING IS JANUARY ONE. THIS YEAR, WE LAUNCHED THE SUB STANDARD BUILDING INITIATIVE PROGRAM, AND THAT IS TO REMEDIATE SOME NON CODE COMPLIANT RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO GO THEY'RE BEYOND SALVAGE ABILITY. AND WHILE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS IN GETTING PROPERTY OWNERS TO VOLUNTARILY DEMO. WE'VE ALSO KIND OF HIT A PLATEAU. SO IN ORDER TO FULLY DEMOLISH AND GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS, WE FELT THAT THAT WAS A PRETTY ACCURATE NUMBER. ADDITIONALLY, I DID ASK FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT REFLECTIVE OF A NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, ONE OF WHICH IS ONE THAT I FEEL PERSONALLY IS REALLY ESSENTIAL TO THIS FACILITY IS REPLACEMENT OF THE HVAC UNITS. THEY ARE NOT ENERGY EFFICIENT. THEY'VE MOST OF THEM THEY DATE BACK TO WHEN THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED. SO I KNOW THE MOST IMMEDIATE ONES NEEDING TO BE REPLACED, ARE ALONG THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THEY AGE KIND OF IN REVERSE ORDER. SO AS YOU MOVE BACKWARDS, BECAUSE WHERE WE ARE IS MORE YOU KNOW, THIS WAS AN ADDITION. SO WITH AN ADD ON THESE UNITS BACK HERE ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND THEY'RE A LOT NEWER. SO THAT WOULD BE IN MY LAST PHASE. BUT THAT'S A CIP ISSUE FOR THIS YEAR. IMMEDIATELY I HAD ASKED FOR SIXTY THOUSAND TO REPLACE THOSE FRONT UNITS, WHICH ARE MOST PROBLEMATIC. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO WALK THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THE CEILING TILE. THE REASON BEING IS IT'S COMPLETELY SATURATED BECAUSE THE FLASHING AROUND SOME OF THOSE HVAC UNITS IS GONE. SO THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT ISSUE AND FIX A LOT OF THE ROOF LEAKS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FRONT PART OF THE BUILDING. SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAD REQUESTED WAS A COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN UPDATE GAGING BASED OFF OF PAST EXPERIENCE. I ESTIMATE THAT MASTER PLAN UPDATE WOULD TAKE APPROXIMATELY 18 MONTHS TO 24 MONTHS. AND SO WE WOULD CHARGE THAT OVER TWO YEARS, ABOUT ONE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND FOR A TOTAL OF THREE HUNDRED TEN THOUSAND IS PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD ESTIMATE. ALONG WITH THAT WAS THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN. YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY PRETTY WELL AWARE THAT THE CITY IS NOT UP TO PAR WITH ADA STANDARDS OR AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT. SO LET ME JUMP IN THERE. SO WE BROUGHT THIS UP WITH ABLC AND PARKS AND SO THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE OTHER CITY PARK TO THAT, YOU KNOW, SO PARKS AND REC, BUT THIS IS THE FACILITIES AND AND SIDEWALKS. AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO IT COMPREHENSIVELY. SO WE'RE IT'S A ONE AND DONE NOT. WE DO PARKS THIS YEAR AND CITY FACILITIES NEXT YEAR. SO THAT IS MY SUMMARY OF OUR MAJOR ITEMS AND ITEMS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY IN OUR REQUEST BUT HAVE SINCE BEEN TAKEN OUT, SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. SO I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE FACILITIES TECH. YOU KNOW, AS WE GROW THE CITY, WE NEED TO BE BETTER STEWARDS OF WHAT WE DO. AND FOR EXAMPLE, KYLE'S THE FACTORY BUILDING GUY FOR CITY HALL, CHRIS HILL'S FOR [01:30:10] THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. BUT WE DON'T. SO WE GOT INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE RUNNING, DOING THINGS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A COORDINATED CITY EFFORT. AND SO EVENTUALLY WE NEED TO GROW THAT POSITION. I THINK SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL ABOUT BUILDINGS AND BUILDING STANDARDS, AGAIN, NOT AN URGENT NEED NOW, BUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE. YES, QUESTIONS FOR LINDSAY. SO I WANT TO SAY THAT WE DID SOME AC WORK ON THIS BUILDING IN THE LAST TEN YEARS WE HAD TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO COME OUT AND PUT NEW IN. YOUR MEMORY WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN MINE. SO I DON'T THINK THE FRONT ACTUALLY I THINK THE ONES WE HAD THE PROBLEM WITH WERE ON THE SIDE ON THIS SIDE. SO THOSE MIGHT BE EVEN NEWER THAN BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET SOMEBODY MAYBE IN FINANCE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME RECEIPTS FROM WHERE THAT WAS CHARGED IN THE PAST IN REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE ON THIS BUILDING AND SEE BUT I THINK IT WAS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS FOR SURE WHERE THAT WAS DONE. SPEAKERS] SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE'LL BRING BACK TO YOU ALL. I THINK I'VE SOCIALIZED A LITTLE BIT IS SHINAR ELECTRIC? AND SO THEY. USING YOUR MAINTENANCE BILL, CREATE EFFICIENCIES. AND SO, LIKE, GO LOOK AT ALL YOUR HVAC, LOOK AT ALL YOUR LIGHTING. AND IN THE PART OF THEIR AGREEMENT IS TO UPGRADE ALL THAT STUFF FOR THE COST OF WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING IN MAINTENANCE. AND SO THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO COMPREHENSIVELY LOOK AT THE CITY AND THAT'S INCLUDING THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND BLOWERS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND THEN I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT ARE BEING DONE AROUND SUBSTANDARD BUILDINGS. BUT IF I'M LOOKING AT IT, YOU'RE TRIPLING THE DEMOLITION BUDGET. BASICALLY, I THINK BEING THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ONCE THIS YEAR, MAYBE DOUBLING IT TO FIFTY THOUSAND AND TAKING THE EXTRA, AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT THAT THAT GIVES YOU ABOUT FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND RIGHT THERE TO HELP YOU GET THAT AC SYSTEM REPLACED ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THIS BUILDING. TO ME, IT'D BE MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO FIX THE HVAC ON THIS BUILDING AND KEEP WATER FROM DETERIORATING THIS BUILDING EVEN FURTHER, AND I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE FIFTY THOUSAND WORTH OF DEMOLITIONS TO DO. THAT WILL KEEP YOU PRETTY BUSY ANYWAYS DURING THE YEAR. SO I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH BOTH FRONTS THAT WAY. SO WE USE THE MONEY THIS YEAR TO DEMO THE KIBER STORAGE BUILDING IN THE BARNS. SO I DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO DO ANY DEMO. SO AGAIN, THEY'VE PROBABLY TRIPLED OR QUADRUPLED THE LIST OF BUILDINGS ON THE SUB STANDARD LIST AND THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO BE. I GET IT. IT'S JUST I THINK WORKING WITH THOSE RESIDENTS WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A FOUNDATION THAT NEEDS TO BE BROKEN AND HAULED AWAY. SO A PRETTY FAIR ESTIMATE FOR ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOME IS GOING TO BE ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS, INCLUDING HAUL AWAY. SO IN WORKING WITH LEGAL, THEY'VE ALSO SUGGESTED THAT WE INCLUDE THE COUNTY AND GO THROUGH THE COURTS. SO THERE'S LEGAL EXPENSE THAT WILL BE INCURRED, TOO. SO THAT'S WHY MY NUMBER IS A BIT HIGHER THAN YOU PROBABLY EXPECTED IT TO BE. AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO DO A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, EIGHT TO TEN A YEAR. ALSO, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE HVAC UNITS, NONE OF THEM ARE UNDER WARRANTY. I THINK IF WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TRANSITION TO MORE SUSTAINABLE CITY ENERGY EFFICIENCY, THAT'S COMPLETELY IN LINE WITH COUNCIL'S VISION AND THEN WITH THE MASTER PLAN [01:35:06] WE USE THAT IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOOL, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GO TO LEVERAGE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT REZONING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BECAUSE WE USE THAT MASTER PLAN. IS THIS REZONING APPLICATION IN LINE WITH OUR CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN? AND SO THE LAST TIME IT WAS UPDATED SHOOTING FROM THE HIP HERE, 2004 OR 2007, IT'S ONE OF THOSE TWO TYPICALLY, CITIES WILL LOOK AT REVIEWING THOSE EVERY TEN YEARS OR SO, AND WE'RE WELL OUTSIDE OF THAT. SO JUST MY MY BEST PRACTICE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO UPDATE THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF WANT TO NEEDS THIS YEAR. SO IN CLOSING, I'D ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR HAS BEEN PROFITABLE. WE'RE WELL ABOVE YEAR-TO-DATE BUDGET EXPECTATIONS IN OUR REVENUE, AND THAT'S FOR BUILDING PERMITS, DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, AND THAT'S JUST BY ENFORCING THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO I DON'T SEE THAT GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, WE APPRECIATE THAT. CAN I ASK ON THE CONTRACT LABOR? YES. GOING FROM TEN TO SIXTY FOUR WHAT'S IN THAT? SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE JANITORIAL SERVICES CONTRACT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SO INTERESTING ABOUT WHEN WE DID THE REVIEW FOR THE BIDS WAS THAT THIS COMPANY WAS ACTUALLY DOING A GREAT JOB. THEY ALSO SUPPLY ALL OF THE CLEANING MATERIALS, WHICH PROVIDES QUITE A BIT OF SAVINGS, AND THEY WERE THE LOWEST BIDDER. SO WIN WIN. AND SO WE'VE YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'VE MERGED MAINTENANCE INTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT THERE. AND I'M SURE BECAUSE OF COVID, WE DO EXTRA CLEANING, YOU BUY EXTRA DISINFECTANT. ABSOLUTELY. ON THE MASTER AND ADA PLAN, I MEAN, I AGREE THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THAT THIS NEXT YEAR, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM THE I'D SAY THE COVID MONEY, BUT YOU ALL SAY IT'S THE AMERICAN RECOVERY. YEAH. SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT DOWN IN THERE. I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ON SATURDAY ABOUT STARTING [INAUDIBLE] NO, I'M ADVOCATING FOR THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN. AND SO, YOU KNOW IT'S IN PARKS AND RECS, BUT FUNDED ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICE SIDE, WHICH IS FOCUSED ON SIDEWALKS AND CITY FACILITIES. [INAUDIBLE] I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT CORRECTLY. YOUR ADA TRANSITION PLAN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CITY FACILITIES ARE ADA COMPLIANT INSIDE AND OUT. I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT QUESTION TO CHRIS. SO ARE WE LOOKING NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. YES. JUST FOR EXAMPLE, SIDEWALKS THEY'LL ASSESS LIKE NORTH DOWNING AND SAY THERE'S X NUMBER OF LINEAR FEET THAT ARE SUBSTANDARD AND STANDARD AND SAME THING WITH CITY FACILITIES. THEY'LL COME IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOUR DOORS FOR THE CITY? RIGHT. YOU'RE LOOKING ALL OVER THE WHOLE TOWN, RIGHT? WELL, CITY SIDEWALKS RIGHT? THE NUMBER OF LINEAR FEET WE NEED TO GO FIX AND COME BACK AND ASK FOR HELP. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. WHO'S NEXT, [INAUDIBLE]? YOU GOING TO THE PODIUM? ALL RIGHT, FOR THE CITY SECRETARY OF THE CITY COUNCIL DEPARTMENTS. PAGE 11, PAGE 11 ON THE GENERAL FUND. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO PRESENT MY BUDGET AND ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MAJOR CHANGES IN THIS BUDGET. [01:40:03] WE MOVED SOME MONEY OUT TO OTHER FUNDS. AND WHAT I REALLY TRIED TO DO IS STREAMLINE THE LINE ITEMS. WE DID INCREASE THE SUPPLIES. AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE INCREASE IN MEETINGS AND THEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS. SO WE CAN SAVE MONEY IF WE HAVE SHORTER COUNCIL MEETINGS AND NOT AS MANY. YES, I LIKE THAT IDEA FOR SURE. NOT AS MANY. QUESTIONS ON THAT BUDGET? THAT WAS PRETTY CUT DRY. SO ON THE CITY SECRETARY'S DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND JUST WANTED TO GO REVIEW OVER SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE COMPLETED THIS YEAR, LASOR FISH, WHICH IS IN PROGRESS, I CURRENTLY HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT HAS COME IN AND IS ASSISTING WITH THAT PROJECT AND WHAT SHE'S DOING, AND SHE'S WORKING WITH MCCI ON FINALIZING IT. AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ROLL OUT THE POLICY AND START WORKING WITH DEPARTMENTS, THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN UTILIZING THAT PRODUCT AND GETTING THAT MAINTAINED AS WELL. WE WERE ABLE TO SEND 160 BOXES TO BE SHREDDED THIS YEAR. THOSE WERE ALL SITTING AT THE KIBER BUILDING. SO THAT WAS A IT WAS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR US. I FEEL. WITH OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, WE DID WORK ON GENDER NEUTRAL UPDATES. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT TAKES COUNCILMAN AND PUTS IT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. AND ANYWHERE WHERE IT SAYS CITY MANAGER REFERS TO AS MEN JUST MAKING IT A GENDER NEUTRAL. AND THEN THE STATE LAW REFERENCE THE FOOTNOTES. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND THAT WAS UPDATED. WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED SWAGIT, WHICH IS OUR VIDEO SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING, AND THE AGENDA MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE UNICODE MEETINGS, WHICH WE USE FOR OUR AGENDA MANAGEMENT FOR ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND CITY COUNCIL. AND WE ADDED THREE NEW BOARDS. WE ADDED THE [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE CURRENTLY USING THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IS MEETING CURRENTLY AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD. SO WITH THAT, THE DEPARTMENT REALLY HAS EXPANDED THE SERVICES WITH JUST ONE PERSON. AND NOW WE HAVE SUSTAINED A NEW MINIMUM LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THE MAIN CHANGE IN THE BUDGET IS ADDING ANOTHER PERSON. AND GENERALLY A LOT OF THE THE BOARDS TOO YOU'LL NOTICE ARE RUN BY THE DEPARTMENTS. AND SO IT PUTS IT BACK AT THE CITY SECRETARY LEVEL. SO WE HAVE STANDARDIZATION ACROSS THE BOARD AND CONTINUITY IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS. YEAH, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT THAT POSITION IS AS FAR AS LEVEL AND RESPONSIBILITY. BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE RESPONSIBILITIES AND CONTINUE TO GROW. WHAT WAS THE COST, HALF A YEAR, RIGHT? YES, STARTING IN APRIL 1ST. SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DEFINE THAT LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY AND PAY WE HAVE A BUDGET NUMBER AND IF I RECALL COUNCIL MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE AT THE TIME, WE USED TO HAVE A THIRD PERSON SITTING UP THERE. YES, YEAH, WE USED TO AND WE THOUGHT WE COULD GET BACK BY WITH IT. AND WE'VE GOT A FEW YEARS WITHOUT THAT OFFICE PERSON OVER THERE WITH MAYBE NOW EXPANDED RESPONSIBILITIES, RECEPTION, IF YOU WILL, OR SOMEBODY WHO COULD BE OVER THERE TO HELP YOU FACILITATE SOME OF THOSE SCREENING. SO. YEAH. [01:45:05] IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS, IT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS I GUESS, FIVE YEARS, WE'RE DEFINITELY A LOT BIGGER, A LOT BUSIER THAN FIVE YEARS AGO. AND THAT IS DEFINITELY A REFLECTION ON THE AGENDAS. YES. NOT THE LENGTH OF THE AGENDA TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING, WE DIDN'T NEED THAT POSITION. HE WOULD DO ALL THE STUFF THAT MAYBE COULD HAVE HAD SUPPORT FROM FROM ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. THE PAST FEW YEARS, LIKE SINCE THAT POSITION HAS BEEN GONE, THERE IS WE HAVEN'T BEEN MAINTAINING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE COULD BE MAINTAINING. THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS INDEXING THAT COULD BE DONE IN SMALL PROJECTS THAT AREN'T ON THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN. AND WHAT WE DO IS ALL BEHIND THE SCENES. BUT THERE IS JUST SO MUCH CODIFICATION, INDEXING ORGANIZATION. AND THESE ARE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS. AND IF THEY'RE NOT PROPERLY TAKEN CARE OF, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THAT. WE'VE SEEN THAT ALREADY THROUGH THE PAST FEW YEARS. AND SO MY GOAL IS TO REALLY GET THAT BACK AND AND HAVE SOMETHING SET UP GOING FORWARD. I THINK THE CITY DESERVES THAT. YES, MA'AM. SO THESE LEGAL PROFESSIONAL FEES, I KNOW A LOT OF IT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, AN ATTORNEY GOING OVER THAT ARE WE WERE ABLE TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT. AT ONE POINT, THE PROPERTY MANAGER WAS TRYING TO KEEP A LIST OF WHAT WAS POTENTIALLY REIMBURSABLE, MAYBE THROUGH THE DEVELOPER OR WHATEVER WE GOT GOING ON VERSUS THE CITY STRICTLY PAYING NOW FOR IT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE ADMIN CHANGE TO, FOR EXAMPLE, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, GIVE THEM LINE ITEM FOR LEGAL FEES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS EFFICIENCIES. WE SCRUTINIZE WHAT WE'RE USING ATTORNEYS FOR AND ALSO HAVING A GENERAL COST, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ENGINEERING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SO WE USE THE ENGINEERS FOR OUR DOG MEETINGS. AND SO THAT'S A COST THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY CHARGE BACK TO A DEVELOPER. BUT IF IT'S DEVELOPMENT RELATED PROJECT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HELPS US SORT OF IDENTIFY WHICH ONES WE CAN CHARGE BACK AND FIGURE THROUGH THAT. OK, LET ME ASK THIS. REAL QUICK CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? AND THEN ALSO ON MY PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SWAGIT ANNUAL FEE AND YOU'LL SEE THE MUNI CODE MEETINGS, ANNUAL FEE IN THAT AS WELL. THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THAT. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A LITTLE INFLATED AND PLUS THE PUBLIC NOTICES THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR. THANK YOU, JOHN. WAIT A MINUTE, I GOT A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, IN MY PROFESSIONAL WORLD, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO TO MY DIRECTOR BOSTON, I ASK FOR ANOTHER HEAD. I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LINE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE JOB IS GOING TO BE AND EVERYTHING BEFORE I GET APPROVED THAT WE'RE KIND OF GOING BACKWARDS WITH THIS. WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER PERSON, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO DEFINE THE ROLES, WHAT YOU SAID AND WHAT THAT PERSON IS GOING TO DO. WELL, AND I THINK THE DEFINING THE ROLE IS REALLY GOING TO BE WHAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO APPROVE. SO WE ALREADY KNOW, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BOARD I MEAN, FRANCIS, YOU KNOW, CANNOT HANDLE EVERY BOARD, PLUS DO YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. AND SO THAT PERSON IS GOING TO HELP US BE BETTER AT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING WELL IN. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, RECORDS MANAGEMENT, I MEAN, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT [01:50:03] ABLE TO DO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE DEDICATED TO THAT. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. AND I'M THINKING KIND OF OUTSIDE THE BOX HERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOCAL COLLEGE HERE, AN INTERNSHIP USING SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, USING THE COLLEGE AS A RESOURCE AND PULLING SOMEBODY IN THAT CAN GET IT, YOU KNOW, A SKILL HERE. SO YOU COULD DO THAT FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR A DIFFERENT ROLE IN THE DEPARTMENT. YOU REALLY WANT SOMEONE, A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME IN BECAUSE THIS PERSON IS GOING TO NOT ONLY BE DOING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MANAGEMENT, BUT ALSO TRAINING. THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, RECORDS MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WHAT THE LIAISON'S AND HAVE CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THEM AND HELPING THEM THROUGH THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SO YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO COME IN AND THAT'S HERE FOR SIX WEEKS AND THEN LEAVE, HAVE SOMEONE ELSE COME IN. I MEAN, JUST GETTING SOMEBODY ON BOARD WHO IS NEW. SO WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS YOU BRING IN INTERNS THAT ARE FOR LONG TERM, SOMEBODY WHO'S GRADUATING. AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE THEIR CAPSTONE. AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO WELL THEN THEY GROW INTO THAT ROLE AND THEY GET TO STAY OTHERWISE THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A TEMPORARY POSITION. IT WOULD BE LONG TERM LIKE YOU'RE ASKING FOR. BUT BRING SOMEBODY IN PARTNERING WITH THE COLLEGE TO BRING THEM IN AS A PROFESSIONAL. AND THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION. AND COULD COUNCIL COULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN AND HIT THE GROUND RUNNING SO THAT WITH THE EXPERIENCE AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THE DEPARTMENT WORKS, HOW THE CITY FUNCTIONS, TO WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO GROOM THAT PERSON TO BECOME THAT PERSON. FOR EXAMPLE, SHE'S GOT SOMEONE IN THERE NOW THAT'S DOING RECORDS MANAGEMENT PIECE AND, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS SECRETARY, YOU KNOW, CONSULTING, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, KIND OF LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT. BUT THERE'S A DEFINED LEVEL OF EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRAIN AN INTERN TO DO OPEN RECORDS AND PUBLIC INFORMATION ACTS AND POST AN AGENDA CREATE AN AGENDA THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, SENDING OUT THE NOTICES TO THE RESIDENTS ON THE ZONING CHANGE AND ALL THOSE TYPE DEALS. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING JOHN TRYING TO STAY A LITTLE BIT BY USING SOME LOCAL RESOURCES. BUT I THINK THERE'S A LEVEL OF BACKGROUND THEY WANT PRIOR TO COMING HERE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. I THINK IF WE APPROVE IT, THEY'LL HAVE AT LEAST HAVE UNTIL APRIL TO FIGURE OUT. COME TO US BEFORE THEN AND GO HERE IT IS IT MAYBE JOHN [INAUDIBLE] WE'LL APPROVE IT. BUT WE BROUGHT YOU SOMETHING ON PAPER. THE NEXT TWO OR THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TO THREE MONTHS DOESN'T HAPPEN. THEY DON'T GET THE FTE. YOU KNOW, THAT SET EXPECTATION WITH US BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] ONCE WE PUT THEM ON BOARD, THEY'RE HERE FOREVER. SIX FOR APRIL 1ST IS TWENTY SIX FOR TWENTY SIX THOUSAND UNITS SENSE. THANK YOU FULLY, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE FULLY BURDENED RATE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. OK, ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE BEFORE MS. [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE WATCHING OR MAYBE NOT SEEING OUR CITY SECRETARY'S GOT A BOOT ON HER FOOT, THAT FROM AN INJURY. [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MISS FRANCIS. CHRIS, WHO'S UP NEXT? ARE YOU READY [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU SO PATIENTLY OVER THERE. HELLO, AGAIN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE JURY BOX OVER THERE. [LAUGHTER] YOU GOT THE BAILIFF IN THE BACK. YOU GOT THE JURY OVER HERE. [INAUDIBLE] GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. SO LAST YEAR I HAD BUDGETED THREE TEN FIVE SIXTY. THIS YEAR IT'S AT THREE THREE EIGHT ZERO FIVE ONE. WE HAVE A NEW LINE IN MY BUDGET FOR EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION. WE HAVE HAD NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE THAT. I MET WITH THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP TEAM IN OUR SALT MEETING AND WE CAME UP WITH ITEMS TO [01:55:06] COVER IN THIS, SUCH AS WE'VE SENT OUT FUNERAL FLOWERS, WE'VE HAD RETIREMENT PARTIES. THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE COVERED HERE. WE HAVE WE HAVE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF THAT THIS YEAR. SO THAT IS A NEW ITEM THERE. I DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE IN SMALL EQUIPMENT. WE NEED TO REPLACE A VERY LARGE PRINTER SCANNER MACHINE THAT WE HAVE IN HR. AND WE HAVE SOME FILING CABINETS THAT HAVE GOT TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE THEY'RE WE CAN'T EVEN PULL SOME OF THE DRAWERS OUT AND THEY'RE REALLY FALLING APART. SO LET ME TALK ABOUT EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION. SO WE DID A SURVEY OF EMPLOYEES TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT MAKE THEM FEEL APPRECIATED. YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT'S THINGS WE DO LIKE CERTIFICATES. WE HAD A HAMBURGER LUNCH HERE LAST WEEK OR SO AGO. THEY REALLY ENJOYED THAT. WE DID ICE CREAM TRUCK [INAUDIBLE] OUTSIDE MY OFFICE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. SO I THINK WE HAVE A NICE VARIETY OF STUFF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING EMPLOYEES TO FEEL APPRECIATED. SO THE TOP PREFERENCES FOR THE EMPLOYEES ON THAT SURVEY WERE GIFT CARDS AND CERTIFICATES, DEPARTMENT MEALS, PLAQUES POP UP TREATS LIKE WE'VE HAD THE ITALIAN ICE COME OUT AND THEN SPECIAL EVENTS. SO WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT. WE APPRECIATE OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEY WORK HARD AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT. YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN THE DUES AND SUBSCRIPTION AND TRAVEL AND TRAINING. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THAT BUDGET HAD ALWAYS BUDGETED SINCE. I'VE BEEN HERE JUST FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL AND WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT, WE BOTH NEED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCES. I'M TAKING I TOOK OVER RISK MANAGEMENT. WE DO THE BENEFITS. SO THOSE AREAS, UNFORTUNATELY, IF YOU GO TO A STATE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BENEFIT MEETING OR CONFERENCE, IT DOESN'T COVER H.R. RISK MANAGEMENT AND VICE VERSA. SO IT ENTAILS DIFFERENT MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES. WHAT'S THE PROFESSIONAL FEES AGAIN? THE PROFESSIONAL FEES ENCOMPASSES ADP REVIEWS, SNAP, WHICH IS OUR PROFESSIONAL AND OUR PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM APPLICANT STACK, WHICH IS OUR ONLINE APPLICANT SYSTEM TRACKING SYSTEM. IT ENCOMPASSES DPS BACKGROUND CHECKS FEES LEADERSHIP TRAINING, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN DOING WITH STAFF AND WE'VE PROVIDED SOME MEALS THROUGH THAT TRAINING OUR INTENT IS TO CONDUCT MBTI AND SOME OTHER SIMILAR PROFESSIONAL ACTIVITIES THAT I CAME UP WITH ROUGHLY ABOUT TWENTY TO TWENTY FOUR OF THAT EIGHTY EIGHT IS UNPLANNED. BUT AS WE KNOW, WE'VE HAD UNPLANNED NEED FOR PROFESSIONAL FEES IN THE PAST. SO THAT HAS REMAINED THERE SO THAT IF WE DID NEED IT FOR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, A SEARCH OR SOMETHING, A THIRD PARTY FIRM, IF WE HAD TO, IT WOULD BE THERE. AND IF I JUST MAY ADD ON THE PART ABOUT THE WHICH ONE WAS IT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OH, THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION. IT'S FUNNY HOW YOU ALL JUST ADDED THAT YOU KNOW, WE DO THE SAME THING AT OUR CORPORATION AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID, THEY DID THE SURVEY AND EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION. THEY FELT THERE WAS NO EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION. SO THEY'RE DOING THE SAME. THEY POP UP MEALS, LITTLE GIFT CARDS, APPRECIATION. THANK YOU. SO IT'S IT'S BIG TODAY. PROBABLY WHAT IT WAS THE LAST 10, 15 YEARS WITH THE APPRECIATION OF EMPLOYEES. SO WE'RE KIND OF DOING THE SAME THING WHERE I WORK. I MEAN, IT'S A BIG, BIG HIT, REALLY HAS BEEN A BIG HIT. AND ACTUALLY THIS TWENTY FIVE FIVE IS ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY PER FTE OR ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX PER EMPLOYEE. SO IT'S NOT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER PER PERSON. HOW MANY FTES AGAIN? I HAVE ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR FTE'S. I THINK IT RESULTS IN STUFF YOU CAN'T EVEN YOU CAN'T MATERIALIZE, IT JUST YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST A PSYCHOLOGICAL ATTABOY, ATTAGIRL YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE TO THAT. I AGREE, I'M MORE STUCK ON THE PROFESSIONAL FEES. WELL, WE HAVE COME UP TO THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY WE WERE DOING PAPER APPLICATIONS AND IT [02:00:05] WAS IT WAS REALLY HINDERING US BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE OUT THERE. THEY WERE THEY WERE AT A JOB. THEY WERE WANTING TO APPLY TO US, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM HAS HELPED. WE'RE WORKING ON UTILIZING THAT MORE MONTHLY TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO EMPLOYEES. THEIR SUPERVISORS ARE GIVING FEEDBACK. I KNOW THE PD USES IT A LOT. SO WE'RE USING THE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT. WE ABSOLUTELY ARE. OH, YEAH. ALL DEPARTMENTS, ALL DEPARTMENTS ARE USING IT. HOW PROFICIENTLY IS ANOTHER QUESTION. BUT YES, ALL DEPARTMENTS ARE USING IT. WE REGULARLY USE IT. WE DO 90 DAY EVALUATIONS, WE DO ONE YEAR EVALUATIONS. NOW I KNOW THE PD. I KNOW PARKS AND REC. THEY DO REGULAR MONTHLY QUARTERLY UPDATES, COMMENTS, GOALS. YOU CAN SET YOUR OWN GOALS. YOU CAN SEND KUDOS TO OTHER EMPLOYEES. SO IT HAS BEEN IT HAS BEEN GOOD WORK RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF STREAMLINING THE NUMBER OF MEASUREMENTS WERE SCORING PEOPLE ON BECAUSE IT WAS WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT THERE WAS LIKE TWENTY FIVE. AND IT'S JUST IT'S FROM THE INITIAL MORE OVERLAPPING AND OR REDUNDANT AND IT BECOMES CUMBERSOME TO TRY TO EVALUATE SOMEONE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE'S THINGS LIKE ETHICS ON THERE AND YOU RATE THEM FROM ONE TO A FIVE, YOU KNOW, EITHER SUBSTANDARD OR EXCEEDS EXPECTATION OR TO ME ETHICS IS EITHER DOING IT OR YOU'RE NOT. I MEAN, SO WHAT? YOU KNOW, SO AGAIN, IT WE WANT TO TAKE SOME OF THAT AWAY. AND WE'VE KIND OF AGREED AS A GROUP THAT WE'RE GOING TO PARE THAT DOWN. WE'RE ACTUALLY TO USE OUR VALUES THAT ARE ON THE CONFERENCE WALL, AS IS PART OF THE THE CORE TO THAT. WE'RE SAYING THAT'S OUR VALUES. WE OUGHT TO BE GRADED AGAINST THE VALUES AND THEN OTHER STUFF LIKE ABILITY AND JOB KNOWLEDGE AND THOSE CLOSE OF THINGS. THE DAY LONG LEADERSHIP CLASSES THAT WE HELD FOR OUR STAFF, SENIOR STAFF DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE RUNNING BETWEEN FOUR AND SEVEN THOUSAND FOR ANYONE TO LECTURE AND ON UP. PEOPLE ARE NOW THAT THEY'RE BACK FROM COVID, JUST LIKE THE CONSTRUCTION COST, LEADERSHIP TRAINING COSTS ARE UP TOO. THEY ARE. MAKE YOU FEEL A LITTLE BETTER, JOHN, NOW THAT YOU GOT SOME OF THE BACKGROUND, I HAVE TO HEAR CHRIS TALK ABOUT IT WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT HOW HE HAD TO DO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THE OTHER DAY. SO HE IS USING THE SYSTEM. OK. RIGHT. SO MUCH TO CUT. NOT MUCH TO DO. PRETTY. STRAIGHTFORWARD. ALWAYS IF I CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO CUT, I FEEL LIKE I FAILED. LOOKS LIKE HE'S STRESSING OVER HERE. WELL JOHN I CUT MY BUDGET FORTY PERCENT THIS YEAR. FROM WORK SAYING YOU MISSED YOUR BUDGET BY FOUR PERCENT AND THAT'S NOT GOOD. JUST IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. JUST YOU KNOW, CHRIS AND I WENT TO LUFKIN THE OTHER DAY AND SO DID COLLEEN AND GLENN. AND THEY'RE ROUGHLY ABOUT TEN THOUSAND LARGER THAN US. AND IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THEIR FTE COUNT COMPARED TO OURS, OURS IS ONE THIRTY FOUR. THEY HAVE FIVE HUNDRED. I KNOW. IT'S HUGE. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY LAID OFF FIFTY PEOPLE. YEAH. AND THEY WERE TELLING US THAT IT WAS LIKE JUST HOW LEAN WE RUN HERE AT THIS COMMUNITY. I MEAN, NOW THEY'VE HAVE THEY HAVE WAYS FOR GENERATING REVENUE AND SUPPORTS THAT. BUT JUST THINK ABOUT OFFERING THE SAME SERVICES EXCEPT FOR SANITATION. WE DON'T DO SANITATION, WHICH THEY DO. THAT'S BIG THERE. BUT IF YOU JUST LOOK AT IT, THEY'RE LIKE ALMOST FOUR TIMES THE SIZE OF US AND THEY JUST HAVE TEN THOUSAND MORE POPULATION. SO WE RUN AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN AND AS LEAN AS WE ARE. SO SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO THINK ABOUT ADDING STAFF IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU. GLENN AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. THIS YEAR. OF COURSE, WE'VE GROWN THIS DEPARTMENT. IT DIDN'T EXIST IN SUMMER 2020, AND THEN IT CAME ON IN FY 2021. [02:05:02] IN NOVEMBER, WE SWITCHED FROM CONNECT CTY BLACKBOARD CONNECT TO CODE RED. IT DID SAVE US A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, BUT WE'VE ALSO MOVED THE BILL INTO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FROM WHEREVER IT WAS BEFORE COMMUNICATIONS OR WHATEVER. SO THAT'S AN ANNUAL SIX THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE DOLLARS THAT WE SPEND ON THAT. IN ADDITION, WE'VE ALSO GOT THE MAIL OUT TO OUR HURRICANE BROCHURES. THE LAST BILL FOR 2021 WAS FIVE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE DOLLARS. IT WILL PROBABLY AS WE GROW MORE WELL, MORE ROOFTOPS. IT'S ABOUT EIGHT THOUSAND PLUS RESIDENTS AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE AS WE CONTINUE. SO I'LL JUST PUT LAST YEAR IN AS AN ESTIMATE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT REPLACING OUR BOTTLED WATER. WE BOUGHT SOME BOTTLED WATER THROUGH COVID THE CARES ACT MONEY, BUT THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE CYCLED OUT. WE CAN'T STORE WATER IN BOTTLES IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF EVENT, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE WON'T. WE'LL WANT TO CYCLE ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT OUT. SO TO REPLACE THAT'S ABOUT THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. WE'VE ALSO BOUGHT SOME MRE'S KIND OF WORKED OUT THE SAME THING RECYCLING OUT RECYCLING IN. BUT THE NICE THING ABOUT THEM, THEY'VE GOT A LENGTHY SHELF LIFE BECAUSE WE DON'T LOSE USE THEM AND WE NEED TO TO SAVE A LITTLE HERE AND THERE. WE CAN MAKE THOSE LAST UNTIL I THINK THE EXPIRATION IS 2024 ON THOSE. SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP AN EYE ON THOSE AND SEE HOW MUCH WE NEED TO ROTATE THOSE THROUGH. THE RADIOS FOR AUGMENTING COMMUNICATIONS. AS YOU ALL REMEMBER, IN FEBRUARY, WE LOST CELL SERVICE FOR ABOUT EIGHT HOURS, WHICH WAS VERY DETRIMENTAL. YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH YOU DEPEND ON THAT WITH STAFF GOING OUT WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS, FOLKS WORKING OUT REMOTELY AND TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE RAPID CHANGES THAT WERE GOING ON. SO TO FIX THAT, WE WANTED TO ACQUIRE TEN MORE OF THE ASTRO, THE MOTOROLA AVX SIX THOUSAND RADIOS WE GOT AN ESTIMATE FROM OR WE GOT A QUOTE FROM MOTOROLA WHO HAS CONTRACT PRICING. PRE BID PRICING WITH THE HGAC. INITIALLY WE HAD A TOTAL OF FORTY FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SIXTY NINE DOLLARS. BUT LOOKING THROUGH THAT, THERE WAS ALSO A COUPLE OF PORTABLE UNITS THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY FIT IF THAT'S WHAT WE GOING TO GET LATER. OK, WE'VE GOT THEM EXTRA. SO ROUGHLY JUST TO GET THE TEN RADIOS IS THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND THIRTEEN DOLLARS AND TWENTY CENTS. SO THAT'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE'LL PUT IN THERE AS WELL. ALSO, WHEN HURRICANE SEASON STARTS, WE PUT IN SOME ADS IN LOCAL NEWSPAPERS THIS YEAR. WE SPENT ABOUT SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS BETWEEN THE BULLETIN AND THEIR ADVERTISING AND WITH THE FACTS. AND THESE WERE GREAT. WE WENT A LARGER LITTLE LARGER THAN WE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE. BUT WE WANT TO PUT THAT CODE RED STUFF OUT SO WE KEYED IT IN WITH RED COLORING INSTEAD OF BLACK AND WHITE. THAT WASN'T A BIG PRICE CHANGE WITH THE BULLETIN, BUT WITH THE FAX IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE WILL PROBABLY DIAL THAT BACK AND TRY TO STAY WITHIN FOUR OR FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS IN GETTING THAT STUFF ADVERTISED. IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IN OUR EMPG, WHICH WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN REIMBURSED FOR LAST QUARTER OF FY 2020. SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING ABOUT FOURTEEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN DOLLARS THAT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE FOR US. THAT JUST HAS NOT BEEN SENT YET. IT'S IN ITS FINAL STAGES. OUR REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA FOR OUR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE FOR THEY CALL IT SEVERE WINTER STORM OR THEY'LL BE CALLING IT WINTER STORM [INAUDIBLE] WHATEVER. IT'S LOOKING ABOUT TWENTY NINE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED TWENTY SIX DOLLARS AND SIXTY THREE CENTS. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE MONEY WE CAN BRING IN. IS THAT IN THERE? I'M SORRY. IS THAT IN THERE, THAT REVENUE? NO, IT'S NOT LISTED AS REVENUE YET. IT'S JUST UP TO THAT POINT WHERE WE KNOW THAT IT'S THE APPROVED AMOUNT, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED THROUGH THE CITY YET. SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE BUY THE RADIOS WITH THAT. YEAH, THE REVENUE IS NOT IN THE BUDGET. THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. LEFT IN THIS QUARTER WITH THE SPEED WE'VE BEEN SEEING OUT OF THE FED IN THE STATE. WE COULD POSSIBLY GET IT NEXT YEAR OR WE COULD GET IT BEFORE THE YEAR EXPIRES, WE DEFINITELY WILL BE NOT GETTING OUR EMPG FOR 2021. OF COURSE, UNTIL FY 2022. THAT SHOULD BE ANYWHERE FROM TWENTY SEVEN TO TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND. MAYBE MORE, BUT PROBABLY NOT. WE'VE BEEN KIND OF LOCKED OUT, WE CAN JUSTIFY A LOT MORE, BUT BECAUSE THEY SPREAD THIS OVER MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE, IT'S A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND IT SEEMS TO BE DECREASING AS TIME GOES ON. BUT WE'RE ROUGHLY LOOKING AT ABOUT TWENTY SEVEN, TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS IN COMING THERE. OK, SO IF THE REVENUE GETS ADDED BACK TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND TWENTY EIGHT, TWENTY NINE THOUSAND TWENTY NINE THOUSAND FOR THE STORM AND TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND FOR EMBG 2021. BUT YOU WON'T GET THAT TILL 2020. [02:10:07] I ONLY NEED THIRTY EIGHT. OK, SO CAN WE MOVE THAT NUMBER. THIRTY EIGHT. AND YOU CAN GET THAT FROM THE TWO PAYBACK'S YOU GET THAT ARE NOT IN THE REVENUE YET. CAN WE EXPENSE THAT AND THEN WAIT FOR THE REVENUE? SHOW ME THE REVENUE FIRST. I DID TALK WITH OUR EMPG GURUS AT AUSTIN [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY SAID THEY ARE PATIENTLY WAITING, THEY ARE PAYING US BECAUSE THE FED HASN'T PAID THEM. SO WE'RE GOING WE'RE STUCK IN THAT CYCLE. SAVE SOME MONEY ON MRES THERE'S THE MONEY RIGHT THERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN END TO THE END OF THE HURRICANE SEASON PARTY WITH THE MRES. SO THERE YOU GO. SEE THAT WILL. WE'LL HAVE IT HERE. [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE FOR A RADIO. THERE YOU GO. [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY THERE'S THE TDEM CONFERENCE THAT I'VE BUDGETED TWO PEOPLE TO ATTEND, IF IT OCCURS AND WHEN IT OCCURS, BROKE OUT WITH THE STANDARD PER DIEM RATES AND ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLAR REGISTRATION FEE. DOES IT SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR? IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN MAYBE 2021. I HAVEN'T HEARD. WHO GOES WITH YOU? WE COULD TAKE THE MAYOR, WE COULD TAKE SOMEBODY ELSE WE COULD TAKE MORE IF THERE'S IF THERE'S MORE MONEY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR GLENN? I KNOW IT'S KIND OF SMALL AND LEAN. [INAUDIBLE]. THIS IS A REALLY KIND OF BUDGET DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE HAND OUT TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN AND SIGN UP FOR WATER STUFF AND STUFF HERE'S TRYING TO GET THIS CODE RED INFORMATION. WE KEEP IT SITTING ON OUR ON ALL OUR WINDOWS AT CITY HALL THE WATER WINDOWS, THE WATER BILL WINDOWS THAT FOLKS CAN SEE EVERY TIME THEY COME IN TO PERSONALLY PAY OR THEY GO TO SET UP PLUS WE'VE GOT OUR WINDOWS FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. PLUS IT'S AT THE COURT, PLUS IT'S AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE REC CENTER. SO YOU JUST CAN'T GET AWAY. OK. THAT'S OUR LEANEST, MOST PRODUCTIVE DEPARTMENT RIGHT THERE. COLLEN HAD ONE MORE ITEM AND THEN WE DO HAVE ANGELA HERE FOR THE COURT AFTER THAT. AND HR ALSO ENROLLS, ANY RESIDENT IN CODE RED WHEN WE ON BOARD THEM. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE WERE WITH ENTERPRISE. WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR TWENTY SIX VEHICLES. WE HAVE SIX STILL WAITING TO BE RECEIVED THEY'RE AT THE MANUFACTURER FOUR WILL GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TWO WILL GO TO PUBLIC WORKS. THE TWO THAT GO TO PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE WORK TRUCKS. UTILITY TRUCKS. ANY QUESTIONS? SO, YES, I HAVE LOTS, BUT SO WE'RE DEVELOPING WHAT THE NEXT LIST COULD LOOK LIKE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE MONEY OUT OF THIS BY THE SALES, BECAUSE THE PROGRAM GOT DELAYED AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW ADS AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A BUDGET DEFICIT. SO WE WOULD KIND OF WAIT TILL IT GETS FURTHER ALONG BEFORE WE COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, NOW WE'RE SELLING VEHICLES AND THE PROGRAMS UP AND RUNNING BEFORE WE ASK FOR MORE VEHICLES. OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE'S SOME OPERATIONAL NEEDS, WE'LL COME BACK AND ASK FOR CONSIDERATION FOR ADDITIONAL ADS. SO WE HAVE TWENTY SIX CURRENTLY. SO. SO THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM WAS TWENTY SIX. THEN WE ADDED WE CAME BACK AND ASKED FOR THE POLICE AND ACO AND PUBLIC WORKS VEHICLE. DIDN'T WE GET THE STREET SWEEPER ON THAT TOO AND THEN THE BUS. OK, SO HAVE WE'VE DONE A POSTMORTEM KIND OF LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE SPENDING ON THIS AND IF IT'S ACTUALLY SAVING US MONEY LIKE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD ON REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE AND JUST LEASE PURCHASE COSTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN SPENDING? [02:15:02] SO THE ANSWER IS NO, BECAUSE, AGAIN, A LOT OF THE VEHICLES WE JUST GOT. RIGHT. AND SO WE HAVEN'T REALIZED THE SAVINGS IN FUEL AND PARTS IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS. DID WE ADJUST THE BUDGET FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR THAT? YES. WE JUST GOT THE VEHICLE, SO THEY WERE DELAYED, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO EVACUATE YET, BUT WE STILL BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO PAN OUT. IT'S IN DEBT SERVICE. IN YOUR BOOK THERE UNDER GENERAL IS WHERE IT IS AS FAR AS THE COST OF THE ENTERPRISE. I'D LIKE TO KNOW REALLY, IT'S AROUND THE PD, HONESTLY, THE REPAIRS, MAINTENANCE, IF THAT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN LIKE WE THINK IT WOULD ON HAVING NEWER VEHICLES AND HAVING IT SERVICED BY THEM, ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T SERVICE CERTAIN ITEMS, I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO GO DOWN. THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH. IT'D BE INTERESTING. JUST KIND OF SEE HOW THAT PANS OUT. WELL, THE OTHER TANGIBLE IMPACT TO THE EMPLOYEES, THEY FEEL PROFESSIONAL. AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE HIM RIDING AROUND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOGO ON THE SIDE, BUT WE DIDN'T PUT PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS AND REC CENTER LOGO. WE GOT A BUMPER NUMBER ON THE BACK AND THE FRONT. AND SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF TRYING TO KEEP IT CLEAN AND PROFESSIONAL. THE STREET SWEEPER WILL BE WE HIRED SOMEONE FOR THAT WILL BE OUT. IT'LL BE OUT IN ABOUT NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHERE IT GOES. BUT GETTING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, JOHN, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT A YEAR AND ROLL THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE AND EVALUATE, BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT STATISTICS AND SAVINGS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. JUST FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. BUT I SUSPECT IT'LL BE SOMEWHAT LOPSIDED BECAUSE WE HAVE A BRAND NEW VEHICLE ON THE ROAD. YOU'RE VERY LITTLE THIS YEAR, SO IT'S ONLY AFTER IT'S BEEN ON THE STREET A COUPLE OF YEARS DO YOU MIGHT START SEEING SOME MAINTENANCE. BUT SHOULD START TO SEEING WITHIN SIX MONTHS, THE MAINTENANCE LINE OUT OF A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS NOT BEING MONTH ROTATION. SO ALL THE NEW PICKUPS WE HAVE TWELVE MONTHS FROM NOW, THEY'LL ALL BE RECYCLED AND WE'LL HAVE BRAND NEW PICKUPS. AGAIN, THE TAHOE'S ARE ON A FOUR YEAR CYCLE. I HAVE HAD ABOUT 10 TRUCKS PICKED UP FOR AUCTION AND I'M JUST WAITING TO ORGANIZE, GETTING THE REST PICKED UP. AND I JUST SAW TODAY USED VEHICLES ARE GOING FOR AN ALL TIME HIGH ABOUT TWENTY NINE PERCENT FROM WHAT THEY WERE LAST YEAR. WE MAY HAVE LUCKED ON THIS BEING DELAYED AS LONG AS WE USE OUR VEHICLES. FINGERS CROSSED. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS. YOU NEVER KNOW. YOU NEVER KNOW. OK, OK. THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE MS. ANGELA. I TOLD HER TO JUST JUST TALK ABOUT THAT VERY IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND IT'S ALL GOOD. IT IS ALL GOOD. SO AS YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. I HAVE A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR MY BUDGET THIS YEAR. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND WE KNOW THAT WITH COVID-19 THAT THE COURT WAS UNDER SUPREME COURT JUDICIAL REGION EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT WE COULD NOT OPERATE IN PERSON PRETTY MUCH SHUT DOWN THE PORT WHERE WE HAVE OUR ARRAIGNMENTS AND TRIALS, ALL OUR TRIALS, ALL OF THAT WAS SHUT DOWN SO THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THIS YEAR IS TO RETURN BACK TO NORMAL BECAUSE NOW WE ARE ABLE TO RETURN BACK TO IN-PERSON HEARINGS. BUT ONE THING THAT WE SAW THAT WE IMPLEMENTED WAS THE VIRTUAL COURT. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. BUT OUR REVENUE, WE'RE LOOKING TO, LIKE I SAY, RETURN BACK TO NORMAL. SO THAT MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR COSTS ARE COMING IN BY REVENUE, BY OUR FINES AND PENALTIES. SO THAT OFFSETS PRETTY MUCH OUR BUDGET WITH THE OPERATIONS. SO ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTED THINGS THAT WE HAVE AND WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN BECAUSE WE HAD SUCH A GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH THE VIRTUAL COURT, WHICH WE ACTUALLY USED THE ZOOM PLATFORM, BECAUSE THE AGENCY, THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION, PAID FOR LICENSES FOR ALL THE COURTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO IT WAS A FREE PLATFORM. SO WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSITION THE COURT AND TO OPERATE IT ON A WHOLE DIFFERENT SCALE. LIKE I TELL EVERYBODY, IF YOU HAD HAVE TOLD THE STATE OR ANY GOVERNING OFFICIALS THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO A COURT OR HEARINGS VIRTUALLY TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS AGO, THEY PROBABLY [02:20:07] WOULD HAVE SAID IT COULDN'T BE DONE. BUT WE ALL SAW THAT TO BE DIFFERENT. THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO KEEP THE OPERATION OF OUR HEARINGS. SO WE DID TAKE OUR HEARINGS VIRTUALLY THAT INCLUDED OUR PRE HEARING SHOW CAUSES, EXCEPT FOR ONE DOCKET THAT WE COULD NOT DO WAS TO WALK IN DOCKET. I THINK [INAUDIBLE] YOU ALL BEEN HERE? WE IMPLEMENTED THAT LIKE THE FIRST YEAR I CAME TO GIVE INDIVIDUALS PRIVILEGE TO COME IN AND JUST RESOLVE THEIR CASES THAT WE COULDN'T DO THAT AT ALL BECAUSE THAT WE COULDN'T DO THAT ONE VIRTUALLY BASED ON SOME LEGAL LEGALITIES THERE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID TO OUR SOFTWARE LINE, WE'RE ADDING IT'S JUST A SLIGHT UPTICK OF THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THAT LINE. THAT VIRTUAL COURT OPERATES. IT HAS A RECURRING FEE EVERY YEAR OF THREE THOUSAND FOR THE MAINTENANCE AS WELL. SO THAT WOULD ALLOW US BECAUSE IT'S A PIECE THAT OUR VENDOR TYLER TECHNOLOGIES ENCODE HAS ADDED DURING THE TIME OF COVID. SO IT'S A BETTER SYSTEM THAN ZOOM BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR ACTIVE SYSTEM FOR US. WE CAN INTERACT VIRTUALLY AS FAR AS INDIVIDUALS, DEFENDANTS BEING ABLE TO UPLOAD DOCUMENTS LIVE RIGHT THEN AND THERE, BECAUSE MANY TIMES WE'RE IN COURT, WE NEED WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH FROM HERE TO STAFF THAT'S IN THE OFFICE. AND THE DEFENDANTS ARE HAVING TO SEND IN DOCUMENTS VIA EMAIL, FAX OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THAT CUTS DOWN ON THAT BACK AND FORTH. BUT IT STILL ALLOWS US, ALONG WITH THE JUDGES AND THE PROSECUTOR, TO INTERACT WITH THE DEFENDANTS RIGHT THEN AND THERE. AND THEY'RE ABLE TO UPLOAD THEIR PROOF. IF THE JUDGE IS ASKING FOR PROOF THEN THEY CAN SEE IT, THEN. SO THAT'S WHAT THE VIRTUAL THAT'S WHAT THE INCREASE IS ON THAT LINE. THE SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT IS US BEING ABLE TO WORK MORE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVE WITH OUR DEFENDANTS AND PROVIDING THEM THAT SERVICE THAT THEY CAN CORRESPOND AND COMMUNICATE BACK TO US. THAT'S INTERESTING TO KNOW. IT'S ONLY THREE THOUSAND. IT'S ONLY THREE THOUSAND. THE IMPLEMENTATION COST IS ALREADY AND WE'VE ALREADY RECOGNIZED, I GUESS. YES, WE DID GET A PROPOSAL FROM TYLOR TECHNOLOGIES IT'S THREE THOUSAND TO IMPLEMENT AND THE RECURRING FEE EVERY YEAR IS THREE THOUSAND. AND THAT WILL GO WELL, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE TRANSITION TO THE THE [INAUDIBLE] SYSTEM, THE UPGRADE IN WHICH WE ARE INSTALLING ON NEXT WEEK. SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AS WELL. THE SECOND CHANGE WE HAVE IS WE ADDED TO THE CONTRACTUAL LABOR AND WE HAVE A SLIGHT INCREASE. THERE OF SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND WHAT THAT IS, IS US LOOKING AS FAR AS THE FUTURE IS, AS FAR AS STAFF IS, AND INSTEAD OF ADDING A PART TIME, FULL TIME, WE JUST WE WANT TO BRING THEM IN LIKE PEAK TIMES, PEAK TIMES OF THE YEAR. AND WE HAVE PEAK TIMES LIKE EARLY IN THE FALL, I MEAN, EARLY IN THE SPRING BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE ECONOMY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, INCOME TAX SEASON AND ALL OF THAT. AND THEN OUR PURDUE BRAND AND THEY RUN A CAMPAIGN EVERY YEAR DURING THAT TIME AND THAT INCREASES OUR TRAFFIC. THAT INCREASES OUR DEFENDANTS PAYING AND ALSO OUR WARRANT OFFICER BEING INVOLVED ON THAT, TOO. SO WE WANTED TO START BRINGING SOMEONE IN TO HELP US WITH THAT. WHILE STAFF IS AWAY ON TRAININGS, I HAVE NEW STAFF. I HAVE TWO NEW STAFF MEMBERS. SO WORKING TO GET THEM CERTIFIED AND TRAINED. SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO BE GONE AS WELL. SO WE LOOK TO BRING THEM IN AS JUST A CONTRACTOR SERVICE. SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES SIR. AND THIS MIGHT BE CHRIS TWO POINT ZERO ON THIS ONE AS WELL, YOUR PROJECTED BUDGET FOR THE END OF THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND IN PERSONNEL COSTS AND YOU'RE GOING UP TO THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR CURRENT BUDGET WAS THREE SIXTY. BUT WHAT WHY SUCH A BIG CHANGE IN THIS YEAR? AND THEN WHY DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO PRIOR YEAR? WELL, I THINK I NEED TO GO UP, BECAUSE LAST YEAR IT WAS YOU KNOW, IT DID TAKE A IT WAS A BIG IMPACT ON THE COURT FROM THE COVID-19. SO THERE WAS AN IMPACT THERE. AS WE KNOW, INDIVIDUALS WHEN EMPLOYED, YOU KNOW, SO THEY COULDN'T PAY THEIR FINES. THEY GOT TO PAY WATER BILL OR PAY FINES. SO I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR PERSONNEL COST? [02:25:01] OH MY PERSONNEL COST. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED ALSO, THEY WE'VE ADDED IN THE PROSECUTOR ON MY BUDGET THAT LINE ITEM USED TO BE I'M NOT SURE WAS IT UNDER ADMINISTRATION, BUT THEY WE MOVED IT UNDER THE COURT'S BUDGET, THE PROSECUTOR'S SALARY. THE WAY THE BUDGET, THE NEW BUDGET MODEL WORKS IS WE ACTUALLY LOAD THE CURRENT PEOPLE AND THEIR ACTUAL PAY TODAY INTO THE PAYROLL SECTION AND THEN IT CALCULATES THAT IN THE BENEFITS BASED ON WHAT IT IS TODAY. SO THE ONLY THING THAT'S IN THAT PAYROLL NUMBER IS WHAT THE PAYROLL IS TODAY, PLUS THAT ONE PERCENT [INAUDIBLE]. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO THAT IS WHAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ALREADY HERE. WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY NEW PEOPLE IN THE COURT. WAS YOUR COURT STAFF OFF FOR A LITTLE BIT DURING COVID? WELL, YEAH, I WAS DOWN A COUPLE OF EMPLOYEES DURING THAT COVID-19. THERE'S THE ANSWER. YEAH, I WAS. AND THEN YOU ALSO HAD CONTRACT LABOR? YES, AND ALSO WITH THE CONTRACT LABOR, JOHN IS ALSO FOR INSTANCE I TALKED ABOUT THE RETENTION AND THE FILE DESTRUCTION, PRETTY MUCH THOSE FILES THAT WERE DESTROYED AT KIBER THOSE WERE ALL ALL THE COURTS. AND THEN THERE WAS SOME AT THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING. SO WE HAD QUITE A FEW OLD FILES OUT THERE. SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT LABOR AS WELL. WHAT ARE YOUR CREDIT CARD FEES? OUR CREDIT CARD FEES IS FOR IN PERSON OR ONLINE. BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENT FEE THAT WE CHARGE FOR IN PERSON AND THEN THERE'S A DIFFERENT FEE ONLINE. IS IT REVENUE NEUTRAL, THOUGH, CHRIS? DON'T YOU HAVE A REVENUE THAT CORRESPONDS WITH THE EXPENSE OR ARE WE MAKING MONEY OFF THAT? THEY PAY THAT. THEY PAY THE FEE THAT WE GET CHARGED. BUT THERE'S AN INTERNET FEE THAT WE DON'T RECOVER. AND THAT'S ABOUT FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE PAY TYLER [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE DON'T RECOVER IF IT'S PAID ONLINE. I GO BACK TO THIS. I'M NOT ON TOPIC, BUT GOING TO ACH OR GOING INTO A E CHECK SYSTEM LIKE THE COUNTY USES WITHOUT A FEE. THAT WAY WE DON'T GET THE CREDIT CARD FEE AND IT'S SET UP. I REALLY WISH WE WOULD GO TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AVOID THE CREDIT CARD FEES ALTOGETHER, SAVE THE CITIZEN MONEY AND SAVE US MONEY. AS FAR AS PART OF ACH PART OF IT. E CHECK IS WHAT THEY ALSO CALL IT. DO THEY DO THAT. JUST PUT YOUR ROUTING NUMBER AND YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER AND THE AMOUNT. SOME ADULTS THAT DON'T HAVE A CHECKING ACCOUNT, THEY GET THEIR CHECK, THEY GO TO CHECK CASH, THEY CASH IT. AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP CASH IN THEIR POCKET. RIGHT. SO YOU'VE GOT THOSE FOLKS, TOO, THAT MAY GET A BURNER DEBIT CARD JUST TO LOAD UP, JUST SO THEY CAN PAY A FINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT MAYOR, WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE A CHECKING ACCOUNT. SOME OF THEM DON'T EVEN HAVE A BANK CARD. SURE. SO WE DO DEAL WITH QUITE A FEW PEOPLE. I'M SURE. I'M STILL, I GUESS, HAVE A QUESTION ON ITEM FOUR SEVENTY SIX CREDIT CARD FEES. WE HAVE TO PAY THE BANK FOR SOMEONE TO USE THEIR CREDIT CARD. YES SIR. THEN THAT CHARGE NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THEIR TO THEIR FINE. RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T ADD IT TO THE FINE. THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE PROPOSED IN THE PAST. THE FINE. I THOUGHT WE DID HAVE IT ALREADY. CHRIS WHEN THEY'RE ONLINE, THEY GO IN AND THEY ADD THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I PAY MY WATER BILL, I GET CHARGED A CREDIT CARD FEE. RIGHT. I THINK WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT EARLIER IS ON THE UTILITY WATER SIDE. WE'RE NOT DOING IT ON THE. WE DO RECOVER THE CREDIT CARD FEES ON THE UTILITY SIDE WHEN THEY PAY, BUT WE DON'T RECOVER THE INTERNET FEES. BUT ON THE COURT SIDED, APPARENTLY WE'RE NOT RECOVERING THIS EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS IN CREDIT CARD. [02:30:10] LAW AND WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM USE THEIR CREDIT CARD FOR FREE, I THINK THEY CAN INCUR THAT COST ALSO. [INAUDIBLE] OK, STAFF STILL LOOKING AT THAT? THESE COURTS AS WELL AS MY PREVIOUS AND OTHERS. THROUGH YOUR CONTACTS YOUR NETWORK. DEFINITELY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE A COUPLE MORE LITTLE SPOTS MAYBE? YES. A SPECIAL PLAN. ON PAGE SIX ON SPECIAL PLANS. NO CHANGES, CHANGES. AND THAT'S BASED OFF OF MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED AND THAT'S BASED ON [INAUDIBLE]. SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL TOWARDS THE AMOUNT OF TRANSACTIONS WE HAVE. RIGHT. OK, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE UNDER THOSE SPECIAL FUNDS FROM COUNCIL, WE'LL MOVE ON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT'LL BE ME. YEAH, FINANCE. YEAH, PATTY WAS JUST ON HER, JUST SAID I WAS GOING TO GIVE HER FIVE MINUTES IF SHE WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE, BUT SHE'S NOT AVAILABLE TONIGHT. SO IF WE WANT TO GO, DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS? FINANCE IS ACTUALLY GOING DOWN. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IF YOU WANT TO. TAXES, THERE'S THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS DIFFERENCE THERE. WE TALKED AND TALKED ABOUT MY DEPARTMENT THE OTHER DAY AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS ARE SPECIAL FUNDS THAT IT MIGHT BE BETTER IF I JUST ASK YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, OTHER FUNDS? UNLESS YOU KNOW SOME HIGHLIGHTS IN THOSE AREAS. I MEAN, PRETTY SURE THERE. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT LET'S JUST GO OVER THE TOP [INAUDIBLE] ON THAT. ON LIKE FINANCE, IT IS ACTUALLY DECLINING TWENTY FIVE PERCENT FROM THIS BUDGET. WHY? AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE TAX PART OF IT THAT'S JUST THE TAXES WE PAY TO THE COUNTY, BRAZORIA COUNTY, FOR COLLECTING OUR, YOU KNOW, THE COLLECTION FEES AND THE PROPERTY TAX. THAT'S THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR INCREASE. I JUST PUT A FIVE PERCENT INCREASE IN THEIR NON DEPARTMENT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY. THAT'S WHEN WE MOVED ALL THAT STUFF FROM ADMIN AND THEN WASTE CONNECTIONS IN THERE THAT AT THE TWO AND A HALF PERCENT WE ALREADY APPROVED BOTH ON THE INCOME AND THE REVENUE SIDE OFFSET EACH OTHER. WHY IS YOUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT GOING DOWN EIGHT PERCENT? WHAT GOING DOWN WHAT? IT'S GOING DOWN BECAUSE WE HAD TWO FINANCE RECORDS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, THAT'S THE BIG THING THAT'S GOING DOWN, YOU KNOW, SO WE WON'T HAVE THAT NEXT YEAR. THE ONLY THING THAT I ANTICIPATE MAY GO UP AND I HAVE A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THERE IS THE AUDIT. WE'RE GOING TO BID OUT THE AUDIT. SO WE NEED TO BID IT OUT AGAIN. SO IT'S I THINK I PUT AN EXTRA THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THERE, BUT GO TO THE ACCOUNT. 415, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS. KNOW. SO OUR FIVE YEAR CONTRACT IS UP THIS YEAR. YES, I DO ANTICIPATE THAT'S GOING TO GO UP IN FINANCE. I DON'T REALLY ANTICIPATE ANY OTHER COSTS TO GO UP. NO SCOPE OF SERVICE CHANGES, RIGHT? NO. IT'S JUST TIME TO BID IT OUT, AND TYPICALLY IT ALWAYS GOES UP A LITTLE BIT. WERE YOU MEANING SOLICIT PROPOSALS [INAUDIBLE]. WE'RE GOING TO SOLICIT PROPOSALS FROM SEVERAL CPA FIRMS AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE BIDS COME IN. IT'LL BE A SEALED BID PROCESS RFP. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT THE BID IS. IT'S ABOUT THE SERVICE YOU WANT ENGINEERING FEES AND SUCH ARE BID AT. [INAUDIBLE] YOU DON'T BID THEM OUT THEY SUBMIT PROPOSALS YOU SELECT THE FIRM YOU WANT TO USE AND THEN YOU NEGOTIATE THE PRICE. PRICE IS SECONDARY, RIGHT? I MEAN, YES. I MEAN, MAYBE IT'LL BE A PROFESSIONAL PROCESS WHERE WE ACCUMULATE THE PROPOSALS WE'LL EVALUATE THEM AND THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEN WE'LL NEGOTIATE THE BEST DEAL FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. [02:35:04] NEGOTIATION, THEY'RE GOING TO BID AND WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE IT AND WE'RE GOING TO SELECT THE ONE THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. I WAS LOOKING AT THE NON DEPARTMENTAL MADE ME THINK ABOUT THE INSURANCE AGAIN, YOU SAID WAS FOR ALL CITIZENS OR ALL EMPLOYEES GOING TO GO UP 15 IS WHAT YOU'RE ESTIMATING? THAT'S HEALTH INSURANCE. HEALTH INSURANCE. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY IN EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY BASED ON EMPLOYEE COUNT IN EVERY DEPARTMENT. THAT'S NOT IN NON DEPARTMENT. I KNOW. BUT I LOOKED AT SOMETHING IN NON DEPARTMENT MADE ME THINK ABOUT IT. MADE YOU THINK OF IT RIGHT. BUT WE DO HAVE THE OTHER INSURANCE ITEMS WE'RE MOVING IN THERE. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S OUR BEST ESTIMATE, RIGHT, CALLING ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE THAT WOULD GO UP FIFTY PERCENT, IT COULD BE HIGHER THAN THAT. I MEAN, WE HAVE IT COULD BE LOWER. IT COULD BE, BUT IT COULD BE LOWER. LAST 12 MONTHS, THEY'VE BEEN PAYING MORE CLAIMS THAN WE'RE PAYING PREMIUMS. SO THEY'RE LOSING MONEY. OR THEY'RE JUST NOT MAKING AS MUCH? WELL, THEY ACTUALLY LOSING MONEY IT'S NOT MUCH. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MAKING LESS THAN THEY EXPECTED. IF IT GOES UP MORE THAN 15 PERCENT, I THINK WE SHOULD WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR OTHER COMPANIES [INAUDIBLE] TYPES OF INSURANCE. AND I WAS KIND OF THINKING THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE ABOUT 10, 12, 13 YEARS AGO, WE HAD FOUR EMPLOYEES WITH CANCER AND IT REALLY TOOK A BIG HIT. WE HAD TWO AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TWO HERE AT CITY HALL AT THE SAME TIME. AND I REMEMBER WE HAD A BIG HIT THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS SO THEY COULD RECOUP AND THEN IT CAME BACK DOWN. SO I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S YOUR STRONG SUIT RIGHT, COLLEEN? I REMEMBER THAT. ALL RIGHT. NOW THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THOSE ABOUT CAPITAL PROJECTS. ANYTHING, CHRIS, WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT IN THERE OR ANY OTHER? WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW CAPITAL PROJECTS. IT'S JUST THE SAME BONDS THAT WE HAVE. WE ALREADY HAVE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO FINISH OUT THOSE PROJECTS. WE CAN I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT'S IN HERE ON A HIGH LEVEL SO EVERYBODY KNOWS MOST OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE PLANNING ON FINISHING UP THIS YEAR. THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO BE LEFT AFTER THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE THE 2018, WHICH IS FOR THE STREETS. AND WE KNOW WE HAD SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS. WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LEFT IT ON THE PROJECT. WE TALKED ABOUT. THEN WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUND ONE TWENTY EIGHT, WHICH THAT'S WHERE THE IMPACT FEE GO, THAT TWO DOLLARS ON THE WATER AND SEWER THAT PAYS FOR THAT BOND THAT'S IN THE IMPACT AREA IN THE 2019 BOND THAT'S FOR THE SEWER PROJECTS. WE'RE GOING TO FINISH UP THE METERS THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO FINISH UP THE WATER TOWER. SO THE ONLY THINGS GOING TO BE LEFT IS THE WASTEWATER PLANT AND THE AND THE FREEDOM PARK WELL. WHAT WILL BE LEFT IN THERE. AND THEN THEN WE HAVE FUND ONE THIRTY, WHICH IS LAKESIDE PARK THAT WE HAVE THAT THREE MILLION ONE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND IT'S IN THERE RIGHT NOW THAT'S GOING TO BE USED TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION LAKESIDE PARK WITH THAT MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH. I DON'T KNOW IF [INAUDIBLE] STILL HERE OR NOT, BUT EITHER WAY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BUDGETED, WHAT WE HAVE IN FUNDS NOW. SO WE HAVE THAT'S WE HAVE THREE THREE MILLION ONE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND THREE MILLION WAS THE ORIGINAL BOND, ONE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND. WE GOT BACK IN THE GRANT FOR COST WE SPENT ENGINEERING. SO THAT MONEY IS BUDGETED THERE. AND THEN ON THE LAST AUDIT, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE SEPARATE THE GENERAL ITEMS LIKE THE FIRE TRUCK FROM THAT, FROM THE UTILITY AMOUNTS THAT ARE IN THE 2019 BOND AND THAT'S IN FUND ONE THIRTY ONE. SO THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. THAT'S ALL THAT I PLAN ON BEING LEFT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. IF WE HAVE MONEY FOR THESE PROJECTS, WE NEED TO SPEND THEM TO GET THE PROJECTS DONE. SO JUST REAL QUICK IN A NUTSHELL ON THAT BOND THAT WE DID 2019 BOND, IS EVERYTHING GOING TO COME UNDER BUDGET [INAUDIBLE] ARE WE GOING TO BE UNDER BUDGET? RIGHT NOW YES. YES. WITH THE PLAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO COME UNDER BUDGET OVERALL FOR ALL FOUR PROJECTS TOGETHER. YES, I KNOW WHEN YOU DO BIG PROJECTS THERE MAYBE LIKE A CHANGE, SOMETHING POPS UP THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT. BUT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING ON TRACK. WE'RE ON TRACK AND I THINK. WHAT'S THAT? OK, THAT'S THE 2018 BOND FUND. RIGHT. RIGHT. PAGE ONE OF SPECIAL OR OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND. [02:40:02] RIGHT. SO WE HAVE FIVE POINT FOUR MILLION TARGETED FOR THIS YEAR IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING. YEAH, WE HAVE THAT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS WE TALKED ABOUT. WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS HOW MUCH OF THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS YEAR BECAUSE HDR PROJECTED THREE POINT SEVEN MILLION FOR THAT DOWNING STREET PROJECT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT THEY CAN FINISH BEFORE THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO I'M ESTIMATING THEY'RE GOING TO GET FIFTY PERCENT OF IT DONE THIS YEAR, FIFTY PERCENT WE'LL BUDGET, BUT THAT'LL BE AN ITEM. WHATEVER'S LEFT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. WE WILL UPDATE THE BUDGET BEFORE THE FINAL APPROVAL TO WHATEVER IT IS AT THAT POINT IN TIME. YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY THESE BOND FUNDS ONLY NEED TO BE APPROVED ONE TIME WHEN WHEN THE BONDS ARE APPROVED. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE APPROVED EVERY YEAR. BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THEM IN HERE JUST SO THAT WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE LEFT AND SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN SPEND NEXT YEAR ON THOSE PROJECTS. WHAT ARE WE DOING ON DOWNING STREET? THE THREE POINT SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE HE SENT AN ESTIMATE ON THE [INAUDIBLE]. I THOUGHT IT WAS DOWNING STREET AND THAT'S WHY APPROVED AND THEN TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO OUT OF THE REMAINING FUNDS. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE SEVEN POINT SEVEN MILLION. RIGHT, RIGHT. OK, WELL SEVEN POINT SIX WE JUST SPENT A HUNDRED THOUSAND. WELL, I WAS ESTIMATING SEVEN BILLION BECAUSE SOME WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO FUND THAT. CAN THAT COME OUT OF THE STREET FUND? I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM. THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED BECAUSE THAT TWO POINT THREE MILLION WE HAVE LEFT IN THE STREET FUND IS BEING TRANSFERRED HERE TO ADD TO THESE BOND FUNDS TO GET TO THE TOTAL SEVEN MILLION. SO IT'S ALREADY [INAUDIBLE] COVERED FOR THE DEBT SERVICE. WELL HE'S MAKING ME DO MATH IN MY HEAD THAT'S NOT MY STRONG SUIT. I SEE THE LIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE [INAUDIBLE] CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FUNDS, UNEMPLOYMENT, CITY EMPLOYEE FUND [INAUDIBLE] UNEMPLOYMENT FUND WE JUST BUDGET FIFTY THOUSAND EVERY YEAR FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, AND THE OTHER FUNDS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THIS YEAR. THERE'S NO BIG CHANGES. OK, ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE FROM MR. HILL TWO POINT ZERO. 14. THAT WOULD BE ONE ITEM NUMBER 15, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED AD [15. Discussion and possible action on the proposed ad valorem tax rate and schedule a public hearing.] VALOREM TAX RATE AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING MR. CHRIS. OK, THIS IS JUST TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL, SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY REQUIRES US TO TELL THEM WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING WITH IT. NO NEW REVENUE RATE OR HIGHER VOTER RATE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO GO UP TO THE HIGHER VOTER RATE, THAT WOULD CHANGE THE SCHEDULE. IT WOULD BASICALLY INCREASE, YOU KNOW, THE TIMING BY SIX WEEKS. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW FROM EACH PERSON INDIVIDUALLY, WHICH IF WE WANT TO GO WITH THE NEW REVENUE RATE LIKE WE PROPOSED OR IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER OPINIONS. BUT I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT, JOHN, YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO FIRST [LAUGHTER] NO NEW REVENUE. OK MAYOR, NO NEW REVENUE, OK. NO NEW REVENUE. NO NEW REVENUE OK? AND TRAVIS SURPRISE NO NEW REVENUE AS WELL. YES. WHAT DO YOU THINK, TRAVIS? OK, SO ALSO WE NEED TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THE TAX RATE AND THE BUDGET. WE HAVE IT ON THE SCHEDULE FOR AUGUST THE 24TH BEFORE OUR COUNCIL MEETING, THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING IN AUGUST. SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO POST THOSE THINGS IN THE AT PAPER CERTAIN TIMES. SO WE NEED TO GO WITH THE SCHEDULE THAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST. AUGUST OF 24TH BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING SO SAY 5:30 OR 5:00 IF YOU THINK WE NEED MORE TIME. AND SO WE JUST NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A VOTE TO SAY THIS IS THE DAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT. AND YOU KNOW TIME, DATE, TIME AND LOCATION WHICH COULD BE HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. I THINK JUST FROM HISTORY [INAUDIBLE] HAD ANYBODY REALLY SHOW UP, SO I [02:45:05] THINK A 30 MINUTE MEETING MAY BE MOST APPROPRIATE. SO 5:30, OK, JUST FROM HISTORY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SHOWING UP, OBVIOUSLY, THEY MIGHT SHOW UP FOR THE HEARINGS. OK. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE GET A MOTION ON THAT? ON WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THE PROPOSED RATE AND THEN THE DATE TIME AND LOCATION. OK, IT'S JUST PROPOSAL. THAT WE KNOW. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE ADOPT A NEW REVENUE RATE FOR THE 2021-2022 FISCAL YEAR AND SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 24TH AT 5:30 PM IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. SECOND THAT. MOTIONED BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL VOTE. LET'S JUST TAKE A ROLL VOTE. OK, SO MYSELF, AYE. MR. WRIGHT, AYE. MR. BOOTH, AYE. MR. GONGORA ,AYE. MR. SVOBODA, AYE. AND WE HAVE ONE ABSENT MR. TOWNSEND. OK, SO IT LOOKS LIKE MOTION CARRIES FIVE ONE FIVE ZERO. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. OK, SO THAT COMPLETES ITEM NUMBER FIFTEEN. WE CAN SHOW US INTO ADJOURNMENT AT 8:57. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.