Aug 03, 2021 Charter Review Commission

SO

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[1. Call to Order and announce a quorum is present.]

THAT'S FUNNY.

I'M LIKE I TOLD FRAN WILL BE A LITTLE LATE.

THAT'S ROUGH ON MY SON.

NO, I'M NOT FAM.

I'M GOOD TO GO.

SO LET'S TALK

[2. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Charter Review Commission meeting of July 22, 2021.]

OKAY.

TO THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY.

SO LET'S

[3. Discussion and possible action on the Home Rule Charter and Blodgett pages]

OKAY.

TAKE IT AWAY.

SO WE LEFT OFF AT 3.07.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND DO THIS IS GOING TO GO OVER THE CHANGES SHE MADE ON IT.

AND WE HAVE IT.

WE GOT IT WHERE IT'S SHOWING ALL THE MARKUP CORRECTLY.

SO THIS IS JUST TO GET A FIELD AND I'M GOING TO TURN THEM OFF.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT THE EAGLES? SO WE ARE, UM, UH, SHE'S GONNA TAKE IT AWAY, STARTED THE SECTION I'M GOING TO SIT.

OKAY.

SO WHAT I DID WAS, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, UH, THE CHANGES, THE ADDITIONS, I WENT AHEAD AND TOOK OUT WHAT YOU SAID TO LEAD.

I PUT IN WHAT YOU SAID CHANGE.

AND WHEN WE GET DOWN THERE, THERE'S ONE SECTION WHERE YOU SAID, THIS IS THE IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE OF THE LANGUAGE.

SO THAT WAS MY PROPOSED LANGUAGE, BUT IT'S SUBJECT TO YOUR ALTERING MODIFICATIONS.

SO, UM, WELL, LET'S GO BACK TO THE TOP.

SO AT, IN SECTION 1.01, UM, I REMOVED THE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATOR GOVERNMENT AND NOW SECTION 1.01 HAS COUNCIL MANAGER GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS, BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF ODD BECAUSE THIS ONE LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN MINE, BUT MAYBE WITHIN THE EMAILING AND I DON'T KNOW, OURS IS OURS.

HAS IT AS JUST COUNCIL MANAGER.

IT SHOULD.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

YEAH.

MINE IS NOT A RED LINE.

MARK MINE IS JUST AS CHANGE WITH BDO.

YES.

OKAY.

BUT, BUT IT SAYS, BUT IT SAYS THAT VERBIAGE COUNSEL, UM, THAT'S THE ONLY MENTIONED IN THAT PARAGRAPH THAT YOU DISCUSSED, AND THAT'S THE ONLY MENTION THAT YOU SAID JAMES, SO I MADE THAT CHANGE.

SO THEN IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE 1.02, UM, I LISTENED TO THE RECORDING AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE SAID.

AND THE ADDITION OF AN OFFICIAL MAP SHALL BE MAINTAINED AND POSTED IN CITY HALL SO THAT IT IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE CITY IN THE EVENT OF A CHANGE IN CITY BOUNDARIES AND OFFICIAL MAP.

THE CITY MAP THAT WE POSTED WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME, I WILL TELL YOU WHEN I LISTENED TO THE RECORDING, IT WAS A LITTLE UNCLEAR ABOUT IN THE EVENT OF WHAT CHANGE.

UM, SO I WENT AHEAD AND PUT IN THE EVENT OF A CHANGE IN THE CITY BOUNDARIES AND OFFICIAL MAP, THE CITY MAP WOULD BE POSTED WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME DISCUSSION ABOUT, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO THIS TOO OFTEN.

SO IF THAT'S NOT TRACKING WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE THAT READS WEEK, THAT BY ABOUT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO, THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE WERE DOING.

OKAY.

SO THEN, UH, IF YOU GO DOWN TO, UH, 1.03 ANNEXATION FOR ALL PURPOSES, THIS WAS A MOTOR MOSTLY DELETED BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE JUST BASICALLY SAYING AS PRESCRIBED BY LAW, THERE WAS NO REASON TO, UH, GO INTO AS GREAT OF DETAIL THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.

SO NOW IT READS, UH, THE SAME IN THE BEGINNING, BUT THEN, AND THE ANNEXATION OF ADDITIONAL TERRY'S TERRITORY, SUBJECT TO SUCH PROCEDURAL RULES AS MAYBE PRESCRIBED BY LAW, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

SO THEN, UM,

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AND THIS IS NEW LANGUAGE IN 1.04.

NOW IT STARTS WITH ANY AREA OF THE CITY.

YOU MAY BE DESEXED PURSUANT TO ANY PROCEDURE ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW.

AND WHENEVER IN THE CITY COUNCIL THERE EXISTS WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF TERRITORIES THAT WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN FRONT OF YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YES.

UH, WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF TERRITORY, NOT SUITABLE OR NECESSARY FOR CITY PURPOSES, CITY COUNCIL MAY DISCONTINUE.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S AN ESCROW THAT SHOULD NOT BE THERE.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S SPELLED CHECKED A NOISE CACHE THAT STUFF MAY JUST CONTINUE SAID TERRITORY AS PART OF THE CITY BY ORDINANCE, AFTER CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MATTER AND THAT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO BY STATE LAW.

YES.

SO THEN, UH, I REMOVED THE FOOT.

THE EDITOR'S NOTE, UH, IS JUST NOT REAL HELPFUL OR RELEVANT ANY LONGER.

UH, AND THEN IN 2.01, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS.

UM, SO WHAT I DID, WHAT I THOUGHT THAT DISCUSSION, UH, INDICATED WAS TO CHANGE IT TO JUST GENERAL POWERS, UH, REMOVE ALL THE OLDER, UH, VERBIAGE AND PUT THIS NEW VERBIAGE IN CITY SHOP IN THE POWER OF LOCAL SELF GOVERNMENT TO THE FULLEST EXTENT, PERMITTED BY LAW UNTIL HAVE ALL POWERS POSSIBLE FOR A CITY TO HAVE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, AS FULLY AND COMPLETELY AS THOUGH THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY NUMERATED IN THIS CHARTER.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT IN FRONT OF YOUR RIGHTS.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS AS YOU RECALL, IS THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO SEGUE IN THESE REGARDS FOR GENERAL POWERS.

AND THEN, UM, 2.02 EMINENT DOMAIN.

UH, AGAIN, WE TOOK OUT ALL THE DETAILS AND WE JUST PUT CITY SHALL HAVE THE TOWER CONFERRED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS RUN INTO ME.

SO BASICALLY THAT'S REALLY STREAMLINED.

SO THEN IF WE GO TO ARTICLE THREE, THE CITY COUNCIL, I DID NOT CHANGE, UH, THE CONTENT OF THAT FIRST SECTION 3.01 UNDER 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

I LEFT THOSE THERE.

WHAT I DID CHANGE WAS WHAT YOUR DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS WILL BE THE TERM RATHER THAN TWO AND A PERSON WHO HAS SERVED TWO YEARS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR AS A MAYOR, UM, WILL HAVE TO TAKE 12, A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS.

YEAH.

SORRY.

TWO TERMS. THAT'S MY BRAIN AND MY TONGUE DOING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE IT DOES SAY TWO TERMS. UH, SO THEY HAVE TO DO A RESET FOR 12 MONTHS, BUT AFTER THE RESET PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS, THEY CAN DO ANOTHER TERM.

CORRECT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS SAID.

DO YOU WANT TO, AND THAT'S WHERE WE STOPPED AT SO YOU HAD, UM, NOTES TO TAKE OUT THE WORD INCLUSIVE MAYBE Y'ALL DIDN'T AGREE ON THAT.

LET ME PULL UP.

ALL RIGHT.

SO IN 3.01, OH YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN ONE PDF.

THAT MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM.

OR IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I DID THAT WE DIDN'T GET CONSENSUS ON IT BECAUSE I LISTENED TO IMPORTANT TO UPPER POSITION BY WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THAT WAS ON THE ORIGINAL NOTICE THAT YOU HAD, THAT HE, HE HAD MADE, I THINK FROM THE, SO UNDER 3.01, ONE, IT SHOULD END AT FIVE.

YES.

OR THE COMMA IS OR SHOULD BE PERIOD.

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SO IT SHOULDN'T, WE SHOULD BE COUNCIL PERSON VERSUS, UH, OR COUNCIL MEMBER.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

I WAS GOING TO ASK, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, IS THAT GOING TO BE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ITEM? SO I WANT YOU TO DO THAT IN AN UMBRELLA FASHION, BECAUSE IF WE DO IT SECTION BY SECTION, IT WILL NOT HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT.

IF YOU HAD ONE SECTION, YOU SAY HE OR SHE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I WAS THINKING THAT WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, WHETHER IT'S COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL, PERSON, WHATEVER THE DECISION IS THAT WHEN YOU MAKE THAT DECISION, I CAN GO BACK AND DO IT EFFECTIVELY.

UM, SO I DON'T, UM, I LOOKED AT THE, I LISTENED TO THE RECORDING TOO.

SO NOW I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK OF THEM NOW.

SO WE WANTED THE MAYOR TO BE PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE FINISHED, IF WE CAME UP WITH KEEPING IT AT SIX OR IF WE WERE GOING TO ADD OR CAUSE WE, I KNOW WE AGREED ON NOT TAKING ANYONE AWAY.

LIKE, OKAY.

I'VE SLEPT SO WE COULD HAVE WHO KNOWS.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

I, MY RECOLLECTION WAS WHERE YOU KEPT IT AT MARIN FIVE.

I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT ONCE GROWTH HAPPENS, THEN MAYBE WE ADDRESS IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME AT THAT POINT.

YEAH.

AS IT, WHEN IT GROWS LATER.

OKAY.

SO DOES QUESTION ON MY PART 3 0 1, SUBSECTION THREE DETAILING ODD AND EVEN NUMBERED YEARS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO THREE YEAR TERMS, I LOVE THAT WORDING AND YOU DID NOT GET ANY TRACTION ON THAT.

SO THAT DOES TRANSITIONING THAT WE IMPLEMENT SO THAT FOLKS WOULD GET INTO, LIKE, THERE WOULD BE TWO PEOPLE ELECTED EVERY YEAR AND THAT WOULD TRANSITION OVER.

OKAY.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE JUST REMOVE THAT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASSIGN THE PLACES.

RIGHT? YOU DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO TWO OR THREE.

OKAY.

I WOULD RECOMMEND SUITE RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD RECOMMEND, YEAH.

I WOULD SAY THAT'S A THREE-YEAR CYCLE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT SIX YEARS FOR EVERYTHING.

WITH EXPERIENCE FROM OTHER CHARTERS TAKES ABOUT SIX YEARS.

ARE THE POSITIONS ALREADY NUMBERED? LIKE ONE, OKAY.

I CAN DO THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S A SEMI, HE GETS IMPLEMENTED, RIGHT? YOU, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IF IT GETS IMPLEMENTED AND YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SCHEDULE AND SAY TO, OR, YOU KNOW, WE PROPOSE THAT IN A TRANSITION SECTION OF THE CHART.

SO THAT WILL TAKE, FOR INSTANCE, THIS IS THE MAY ELECTION.

SO THOSE TERMS THAT JUST WERE ELECTED BY 2022, THE ONES AT 20, 23 WOULD EITHER RUN FOR TWO YEAR TERM OR THREE-YEAR TERM, MAYBE EVEN A ONE YEAR TO GET IT RIGHT.

AND THEN WE JUST PICK WHATEVER'S OFF IN 20, 23, WHOEVER NUMBER THAT MAY BE THE MAYOR WHO'S EVER THE MAYOR AND TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY'RE THE FIRST TO GO SOME AMOUNT OF TIME.

SOMEBODY USUALLY HAS TO TAKE .

SO HOW, WHAT DOES THAT

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THEY HAVE THE MAYOR AND FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO THEN WE MADE THE MAYOR PART OF THE COUNCIL.

SO IN 2022, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.

SO THIS WOULD BE ALL, BUT IN 2022, THE MAYOR IS ELECTED FOR A THREE-YEAR TERM THREE POSITION FOUR IS ELECTED TWO THREE-YEAR TERM POSITION FIVE IS IN 2024 POSITION TO POSITION THREE, SELECT THE MAYOR SELECT FOR THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS IN 2026.

YOU ON A THREE-YEAR TERM EVENLY OVER TO TWO PER YEAR.

PRIOR TO THAT, WE HAD ODD POSITIONS I LIKED IT EVERY TWO YEARS.

EVERY YEAR.

OKAY.

BUT THE TRANSITION PROVISION, I MEAN, THAT'S THE MATH THAT JUST SAYS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR A SMOOTH TRANSITION FROM A FIVE MEMBER COUNCIL, BACK TO YOUR TERMS TO A SIX MEMBER COUNCIL, LIKE THREE-YEAR TERMS PROVIDED THREE OF THE CHARTER, THE FOLLOWING ELECTION SCHEDULE SHALL BE FOLLOWING SUCH TIME AS ALL COUNCIL AND THEN THE WORDING, THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION 3 0 1, SUBSECTION THREE, JUST READS THAT IN EACH YEAR TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OR A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE MAYOR ARE UP FOR ELECTION.

OKAY.

SO FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, SINCE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO TAKE ACTION AT OUR LAST MEETING, DO WE WANT TO KIND OF BURN THROUGH ARTICLES, WANTING TO MOVE TO HOW ARE WE GOING TO WORD THAT I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT THE CHANGES AS PRESENTED? YEAH.

OKAY.

MOVE TO ADOPT THE CHANGES AS PRESENTED, UM, AND ARTICLE ONE AND ARTICLE TWO.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

SO LET'S KEEP ROLLING ON ARTICLE THREE THEN SO DOES THAT CLARIFY? THAT CLARIFIES EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, RIGHT? OH, WE CAN TREAD NEW GROUND NOW.

MOVING FORWARD.

WE SHOULD BE ON SEVEN EIGHT, RIGHT? OKAY.

WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT SECTION THREE POINT.

OH,

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SO 3 0 1 SUBSECTION THREE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE CONSENSUS ABOUT THE TRANSITION SCHEDULE OR HOW THEY WOULD, HOW THE ELECTIONS WOULD LOOK.

OKAY.

SO THEN I WOULD MOVE TO AMEND THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO THREE-YEAR TERMS TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS OR ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THE MAYOR ARE UP FOR ELECTION EVERY YEAR.

AND WE ARTICULATE THAT IN A TRANSITION ARTICLE TO BE DRAFTED AT A LATER DATE.

YEAH.

A SECOND.

WAIT, ARE WE DOING THIS? I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S FOR SECTION THREE, RIGHT? 3.013.

YEAH.

SO DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH AND SEE WHAT CHANGES AND THEN ACCEPTED AND THEN GOOD MOTION TO ACCEPT IT AS A WHOLE.

THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN DO THAT.

I THINK WE'D HAVE TO DO EACH INDIVIDUAL SUBSECTION.

I SHOULD KNOW HOW MANY SUBSECTIONS WE HAD LEFT.

THERE'S EIGHT TOTAL ON 3.01.

BUT IN THE SENSE OF SECTION THREE THERE, BUT CAN WE JUST DO THE SWEEPING STUFF AND THEN COME BACK AT THE END AND DETAIL WAS THE WRAP, THE DETAIL, WHAT ACTUALLY GETS BEFORE THE ELECTION OR WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED ARTICLE THREE.

SO WHY DON'T WE ADDRESS ALL OF 3.01 BEFORE WHERE WE ARE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THEN WE'LL TABLE THAT FOR NOW AND KEEP GOING ON SUBSECTION SIX, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I DO WANT TO ADD THAT I'M MAKING, I'M MAKING THAT CHANGE OF THE CAPITAL G TO THE GOVERNOR BECAUSE EARLY THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME.

AND THE I'VE GONE AHEAD AND MADE THE STRIKE THROUGH ON 3.01, ONE AT THE END OF PI.

CORRECT? SO YOU HAVE ONE NOW, 2.02, NO CONSENSUS ELIMINATING.

NO BASED OFF OF WHAT WE JUST DID.

2.02 EMINENT DOMAIN IS GOING TO READ THE CITY SHALL HAVE THE POWER CONFERRED UPON THE, UPON HIM BY THE CONSTITUTION.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO THAT, THAT SENTENCE IS WHAT WE WERE KIND OF, WE, YEAH, WE'RE DOWN TO WRESTLING WITH IT.

I NEVER GOT A SENSE THAT NO, BUT THAT SOUNDS, THAT SOUNDS EXACTLY HOW IT ENDED UP BEING WHEAT.

WE WANTED SOMETHING, BUT IT NEEDED TO BE LIMITED.

AND THAT'S PERFECT.

SO NOW WE'RE ON 3.5.

I DON'T HAVE THAT.

THEY REACHED A CONSENSUS BECAUSE IT SAYS THE PERSON WHO SERVED THREE TERMS SHALL SERVE.

SO NOT QUITE THREE YEARS, BIG PARAGRAPH.

YEAH.

WOULDN'T IT TAKE CARE OF 3.06 TOO.

CAUSE DOESN'T THAT TALK ABOUT APPOINTMENTS AND SUCH.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

JUST JUMP DOWN THERE.

ONE OF THEM, I SAID, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? ALL RIGHT, THIS WAS TRYING TO DO, IF IT'S MORE THAN 31 DAYS AND ALL THAT COUNTING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AFFORD THREE YEAR TERM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CALL IT ELECTION.

YOU CAN'T AFFORD 3.06, THREE POINT B AND CEO RHYTHM BECAUSE YOUR THREE-YEAR TERMS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.

AND THIS WAS JUST THE TWO YEAR TERM.

YOU HAVE ONE ELECTION.

SO MANY DAYS TO THE ELECTIONS, YOU HAVE THREE OR MORE VACANCIES AND YOU'RE SAFE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT QUALIFYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE QUALIFIED THEIR MATCHES UP FOR WHATEVER THEIR PATIENTS ARE.

BASICALLY 3.05 AND 3.06, GET ELIMINATED A NEW 3.6.

SO YOU'RE COMBOING OH FIVE, A N OH SIX TO BASICALLY SAY THE SAME THING, MAKING IT INTO ONE, ELIMINATING ONE AND REDUCE.

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DISASTER THAT IF YOU HIGHLIGHT FRANCES A. LITTLE YELLOW BOX.

AND SO IT SAYS IN A CASE OF A DISASTER, WHEN THE LEGAL FORM OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND NOT OTHERWISE BE ASSEMBLE DUE TO MULTIPLE DEATHS, AND THIS COMES FROM A CITY HALL THAT WAS BUILT NEXT RIGHT NEXT TO A RAILROAD TRACK BUILDING SHOULD CAUSE THE TRAIN.

SO THERE WAS A DERAIL KILLED THE CITY COUNCIL FOR IF YOU HAD A HURRICANE HERE AND YOU HAD MULTIPLE DEATHS OR INJURY, THE SURVIVING PERSONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OR HIGHEST SURVIVING CITY OFFICIAL THAT NO ELECTED OFFICIALS REMAINS SHALL WITHIN 24 HOURS OF SUCH DISASTER REQUEST THE HIGHEST OFFICERS OUT OF THE FOUR BIG I'M SORRY.

THAT SHOULD BE, THERE'S ALREADY A COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

YOU SAW WHERE I TALKED TO THEM FROM UH, BRAZORIA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO A POINT A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS.

THE CITY EQUALS VACANCIES.

THEY CAN CALL THEM THE ELECTION AND YOU CAN HAVE CONTINUITY.

THE CITY WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO ACT RIGHT.

PRESSURE RALLIES, THIS PROCESS.

OKAY.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW HE'S GOING TO SURVIVE.

EVER BODY TURNED INTO A ZOMBIE EXCEPT FOR BOND COMMISSIONER SPORTS SAFE, THIRD LINE, HIGHEST SURVIVING CITY OFFICIALS TO PROVIDED YOU.

MAKE IT YOU JUST LOOK LIKE YOU'VE GOT GREAT SURVIVAL SKILLS.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, MAN.

UH, GET AWAY TO DO.

YEAH, YOU CAN CARRY ON CITI.

BUSINESS LOOKS GOOD IS WHAT IS THE CORRECT COUNTY? BEN WAS DECIDING TO THE BRAZILIAN THEY SURVIVE.

THEN YOU GO TO THE GOVERNMENT FIRST CHAPTER 4 0 2 AND THEN HE WOULD APPOINT SOMEBODY BY THAT TIME.

PROBABLY I SAID, CHRIS JUST WON'T RESPOND TO ANY PHONE CALLS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE POWERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU SAY YOU HAVE ALL THE GENERAL POWERS AND THEN YOU FEEL THE NEED TO LIST OF 18 OR 16.

SO AGAIN, LESS IS MORE, THIS IS THE TERMINATION, ALL MANAGED POLITICS AS A POWER SHALL BE VESTED IN THE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO SAY.

YOU GOT IT ALL UNTIL SOMEBODY SAYS, YOU KNOW, UM, IF YOU WANTED SOMETHING ELSE AND YOU HIGHLIGHT THAT LITTLE, UH, 3.07, THAT SECOND BOWL OF YELLOW BOX, YOU'LL GO BACK UP RIGHT THERE.

WHY DOES IT JUST MAKE IT AS BIG AS IT IS? EVERY SINGLE TIME PEOPLE? WHY ARE WE DOING THAT?

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IF YOU WANTED SOMETHING MUCH SHORTER.

YEAH.

I LIKED THE VERY SHORTEST VERSION.

YEAH.

I'M GOING TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT LIKE WE MADE THE LAST TIME.

IF YOU JUST COMPLETELY GUTTED, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO, THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS I CAN TAKE OVER OUR HOUSE.

BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME VERSION OF IT, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH EMINENT DOMAIN IT'S TO THE POINT, I THINK THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.

THIS ONE, THE ONLY THING IT DOES IS CALL OUT THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE INVESTIGATE, BUT YOU HAVE THAT POWER, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE YOUR PURIST AND LESS IS MORE, OR YOU'RE A LITTLE, IT'S UP TO YOU, WHATEVER FLAVOR YOU WANT, I AM A MINIMALIST.

SO I LIKE THE ONE SENTENCE VERSION.

THAT'S JUST ME.

YEAH.

AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE, I DON'T KNOW THAT SHORTENING IT TO THE ALTERNATE BY, YOU KNOW, GETS PEOPLE BOUGHT IN.

IF THEY ALREADY SEE US TAKING OUT 18 THINGS.

I MEAN, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO GO FOR IT OR THEY'RE NOT.

YEAH.

I THINK A VERSION OF SOMETHING WOULD BE BETTER THAN ALL OF IT BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF REDUNDANT.

LIKE OF COURSE THEY CAN ADOPT A BUDGET WHO ELSE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT FOR GARBAGE? EXCEPT LIKE, YEAH, LIKE OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING TO ADOPT THE MODIFY, THE OFFICIAL MAP CITY.

WHAT ELSE? I SUPPOSE, UM, YOU'RE SAYING JUST KEEP THE ONE SENTENCE AND THEN GET RID OF THE REST OF IT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? RIGHT.

I'M SAYING JUST KEEP THAT FIRST SENTENCE.

DETERMINATION OF ALL MATTERS OF POLICY.

THE EXERCISE SHALL BE GOVERNED OR SHALL BE VESTED IN THE CITY COUNCIL.

I MEAN, CAUSE THIS WASN'T EVEN BY ITS OWN TERMS, THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE STARTS WITH, BY WAY OF ILLUSTRATION AND NOT LIMITATION.

I MEAN, THEY MUST'VE BEEN GETTING PAID BY THE WORD FOR THIS THING.

I MEAN LIKE HERE, LET ME GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES.

YEAH.

OH, WE CAN DO A LOT MORE STUFF.

THAT'S NOT IN HERE TO JUST, YEAH.

AND AGAIN, I MEAN, TO ME, IT GOES TO THE VOTER GUIDE, WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT.

WE'RE JUST SAYING IT BECOMES IMPORTANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT WE'RE CLEANING IT UP TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AND ALSO TO JUST GET RID OF REDUNDANCY, ARCHAIC LANGUAGE AND REDUNDANCIES.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS CHOPPING.

OKAY.

PRETTY POINTLESS.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO TO THE FIRST SENTENCE.

IT IS NOT READ IT TO TURN TO THAT DETERMINATION OF LAW MATTERS AND IT ENDS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

YES.

SO THE LANGUAGE THAT GRADY PROPOSED, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

IF WE DON'T NEED IT, THEN I DON'T NEED IT.

IT'S GOING TO STICK ON SENTENCE.

THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK.

YOU PUT INTO IT.

COUNTY MEETINGS OF CITY COUNCIL.

SHOW ME THE LEAST ONCE A MONTH.

THAT'S YOUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL DELETED OUR RESOLUTION.

THIS MAY BE ONE.

WE DON'T WANT IT WITH, I THINK YOUR, YOUR COUNCIL MEETINGS SHOULDN'T BE THE MOST FORMAL WAY.

IF WE TURN IT, THE RED PIN CAME OUT.

THIS IS SAYING ALL MEETINGS SHALL BE PUBLIC AND SHOULD BE HELD AT CITY HALL.

YOU DON'T LEAVE ANY CONSTITUTION.

OPEN MEETINGS ACT TELLS US.

I MEAN, IF, IF CITY GOVERNMENT IS ON THE RUN FROM A HURRICANE, SO THEY SURVIVE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TRIGGER THE DISASTER CALLS.

WE'VE MADE HAVE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN THE REC BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEW, MORE OF THE COURTHOUSE.

RIGHT? SO

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SO THIS CAN BECOME A POLITICAL FOOTBALL, USUALLY SETTING AN AGENDA IS THE CITY MANAGER OR THE MAYOR OR ANY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THE MAYOR OR ANY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, DO YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AS THE MAYOR OR TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AS OPPOSED TO THE AGENDA? SO WE'VE GOT ONE QUESTION ON THE AGENDA AND ONE.

SO FOR A MEETING REQUEST MEETING ONLY NOT AGENDA, IT COULD BE CITY MANAGER, MAYOR OR TO MEMBERS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I WAS TALKING ABOUT I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

OR SPECIAL MEETING TO EITHER THE MAYOR OR I MET FOR SPECIAL NEEDS.

FIRST SPECIAL MEANS YOU'RE SAYING FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS, IT WOULD EITHER BE EITHER OF THE THREE OPTIONS.

NO, I WOULD SAY TWO OR TWO COUNTS ABOUT IT.

I WAS CONFUSED.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS SAYING IS FOR THE AGENDA ITEMS, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN GAMES OF THEM PULLING OUT ITEMS AND TAGGING ITEMS GO ON, OR I NEED A SECOND.

YOU MAY NOT WANT IT IN YOUR CHARTER.

YOU MAY SUGGEST IT IN PROCEDURE ROOMS, BUT SAVING MANAGER NEEDS TO PUT STUFF UP TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YEAH.

YES.

I AGREE.

I AGREE.

I AGREE.

CHRIS AGREES.

WE AGREE RIGHT CHRIS, BUT CAN WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ITEMS WE CAN SAY? ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

UM, WELL HOW WOULD IT BE? THE WAY WE HAVE A CAP ON HOW LONG THEY CAN BE HERE TOO? JUST COME IN THERE.

THE FIRST TIME I MOVED TO ADJOURN TODAY, AS A GENIUS DOWN IN THE VALLEY, THEY MAKE TROUBLE WITH THE LEGISLATURE BECAUSE THEY WOULD COME IN.

BUT, UM, YOU DON'T NEED THE NITPICKY TALLGRASS STUFF.

FOR INSTANCE, MAYBE WHEN YOU SAY ANYTHING, , I'LL PUT A LOT MORE ON AGENDA.

SO FOR 3.08, WE ARE KEEPING THAT THE SPECIAL MEETING CAN BE CALLED A WRITTEN REQUEST TO THE SECRETARY BY MAYOR OR TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

BUT WE'RE ADDING A NECESSARY BUSINESS AND TRANSACTION ABOUT THE AGENDA.

YES.

AND THAT WOULD BE CITY MANAGER, MAYOR, OR TWO COUNCIL TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, 3.09 RULES OF PROCEDURE.

HOW DO YOU WANT TO DEFINE QUESTION? WHY IS THAT A PROBLEM? BECAUSE YOU HAVE SIX.

SO FOUR IS WHAT DO YOU WANT VOTING TO BE OF THOSE PRESENT? SO YOU COULD HAVE THREE, FOUR VOTING TO PASS SOMETHING AS OPPOSED TO FOUR, SIX.

THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY THE SECOND QUESTION PRESENT OR BEFORE BLOCK, WHEN I WAS DOING FULL SCHURZ, ONE OF THE BIG PERSONALITIES ON THE CHARTER COMMISSION, THE MAYOR, CURRENT MAYOR AND THE PREVIOUS MAYOR WHO WAS THE FATHER OF THIS, THAT MAYOR DIDN'T TRUST THEM AT ALL.

SO HE WAS PUSHING EVERYTHING, HAD TO BE THE FULL BODY.

SO YOU COULDN'T JUST HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN SOME THREE PERSON, THREE MEMBER, CLICK RAMP, SOMETHING KIND OF LIKE PRESENT YOU LIKE THE MORE EFFICIENT PRESENCE

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WELL IT'S BASICALLY WITH SIX ONE.

SO WITH THE SIX MEMBER VOTING BODY PASS SOME BARS FOR CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO IF ONLY IF FOUR IS DEFINED AS A CORE, YOU'RE MISSING TWO.

SO WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO PASS SOMETHING BEFORE THERE? SO THREE TO PASS SOMETHING OR DO GREAT.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S WHAT'S IN THERE RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT? I WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET EVERYONE, RIGHT.

I THINK FOR MAKES IT POTENTIALLY DIFFICULT SOMETIMES, RIGHT? IF YOU HAD A MEETING WHERE YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR PRESENT, YOU COULD HAVE YOUR MEETING, BUT YOU COULDN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU WERE UNANIMOUS ON EVERYTHING, RIGHT? YOU WANT THE MAJORITY TO AGREE, WHICH IS THREE OF FOUR.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

EVEN HAVE THE MEETING.

IF YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING, UNLESS YOU HAVE UNANIMITY.

SO THEY JUST FIND FORUM OH FIVE AS THE MAYOR OR THE MAYOR PROTEIN, BUT THREE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WOULD DEFINE A QUORUM AS FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE WE FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BECAUSE OUR MAYOR AND OUR MAYOR PRO TEM ARE AN EQUAL PART OF THE BODY.

SO TO ME, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER, THE MAYOR PROTEIN DON'T SHOW UP TO BUSINESS AS THE CITY CONTINUES WITH THE FOUR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL LEFT.

NO, YOU CAN'T HOLD UP THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.

SO THEN WE WOULD DELETE, OR A QUORUM SHALL BE DEFINED AS FOUR MEMBERS, CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, AND FIVE COUNCIL.

AND THEN WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WHERE WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER JASON AND JASON AND JOHN WOULD BE ABLE TO BE THERE.

RIGHT? YEAH.

SO WE'RE, I HAVE THEIR REAL PRESENT OR FULL BODY.

WE'LL KEEP IT AS PRESENT.

AND THEN IT GETS INTO THE MINUTES AND BE KEPT IN A PHASE.

THE CAMP IN A BIG BOOK AND NO CONTROL BY STATE LAW.

WE HAVE COMPUTERS NOW.

SO I WOULD JUST DELETE SOME OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT LANGUAGE.

AND SO TALKING ABOUT LAYING IT ALL ON THE TABLE OR THE COMMISSIONER, LITERALLY THEY WERE, AND THERE'S SOME PROVISIONS THOUGH FOR WERE RECORD VOTES FOR, UH, TAXES.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT'S A STATE LAW NOW.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IS THERE THERE'S THAT PROVISION THAT'S STATE LAW THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE RIGHT.

SO WE'LL TAKE THAT OUT.

UM, PROCEDURES FOR PASSING ORDINANCE.

I WAS JUST LIKE, NO, NOT IN YOUR CONSTITUTION, BUT JUST SAY, MOVE A DOCTOR'S ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

I ASSUME THEY HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY, DO THEY FOLLOW IT? I'M SURE THEY FOLLOW IT, BUT IT'S NOT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVER BEEN OFFICIALLY.

I CAN LOOK BACK.

I WOULDN'T PUT IT IN THE CHARTER TO SAY YOU FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, BUT COUNCIL CAN ADOPT ITS OWN RULES AND THEN THERE, THEY SHOULD SAY THEY'RE PUBLIC.

WELL PROCEDURES.

I'VE DRAFTED THIS IT'S ON HOLD.

YEAH.

AT ANOTHER TIME.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

BUT ANYWAY, IN THERE I DID REFERENCE ROBERTS.

SO WERE YOU SAYING LIKE GET RID OF THREE, 10? YEAH.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT, MAN.

THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

I THINK THAT, I THINK YOU'RE ONTO SOMETHING ABOUT, I THINK YOU'RE HONESTLY ABOUT BEING PAID BY THE WORD.

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OKAY.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN KNOCK OUT.

I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE DON'T JUMP TO FOUR.

SCOTTY JUST TEXTED ME.

IT WAS JUST LIKE, HEY, IF I GET TO FOUR, I HAVE SOME INFO ON THAT.

AND HE WENT, NO WE'RE FINISHED TODAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA KNOCK OUT THESE LAST WEEKS GOING TO BE GOING ON BEFORE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.

UH, IF YOU CAN, THERE YOU GO.

SO GOOD.

THIS MAY, THIS IS PERHAPS A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT.

THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REQUIRE BONES WITH YOUR CFO, USUALLY MONEY.

THEY REQUIRE BONDS.

I DON'T KNOW.

DID YOU DO A BOND? UH, HERE, IT'S NOT MANDATORY.

IT DOES SAY MAY, BUT IT'S A LOT OF WORDS.

IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, UH, YOU COULD USE THAT VERBIAGE IF YOU JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT ALONE.

SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME BOMBING YOUR REQUIREMENTS? WELL, IF YOU AND THERE HAS BEEN CITIES SOUTH OF HERE WHERE THE CITY MANAGER WENT SOUTH ON SOME CREDIT CARDS, SOME EXPENSE ACCOUNTS.

AND IS IT THE PELKEY ROUND? NOW THE CITY CAN GO TO THE BONDING COMPANY AND SAID, YOU BONDED HIM FOR MALFEASANCE.

PAY US THAT BACK.

NOW I HAVEN'T EVER SEEN A BOMBING COMPANY VOLUNTARILY QUICKLY PAY ANY BONDS, A ROAD CONSTRUCTION OR ARE CRIMES, BUT IS THERE SOME PROTECTION DON'T DO THAT.

I'M NOT GOING TO MSI YOU, YOU GET TO, BUT HE'S A SURVIVOR.

HE'LL SURVIVE.

, WE'LL FIND THEM ON TOP OF THE COURTHOUSE.

YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, THIS WAS AMENDED IN OH SEVEN.

NOT QUITE AS ARCHAIC AS SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF.

IS IT ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE COULD, OR MAYBE SHOULD LEAVE ALONE JUST TO BE LIKE, YEAH, WE DIDN'T CHANGE EVERYTHING.

I MEAN, THAT'S AMAZING.

I MEAN, RIGHT.

SO IT'S OPTIONAL ANYWAY, SO, OKAY.

YEAH.

WE'LL LEAVE IT ALONE.

INVESTIGATIONS BY COUNSEL.

WE DIDN'T CALL IT OUT.

UH, 3.07.

HERE IT IS CALLED OUT.

UM, I'LL LEAVE IT IN THERE.

JUST KEEPS EVERYBODY HONEST, JACK.

THE FINE UP TO 500.

YEAH, I HAVEN'T DONE A COUNSELING, SO I'M SORRY.

BUT ON THREE 11 IT SAYS SHELL 3.7.

I'M READING SECOND 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 WORDS OVER FROM THE LEFT MAY REQUIRE.

AND THEN IT SAYS SHALL BEFORE ENTERING THE DUTIES OF THEIR OFFICE.

SO IF THE CITY COUNCIL REQUIRES IT, THAT MANAGER'S SECRETARY OR OFFICER SHALL IS HOW I READ IT BEFORE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO WHOEVER DID IT IN 2007, SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT, WE'RE GOING TO INVEST.

SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT OUT, RIGHT? YEAH.

I'M SORRY.

I HAVE A DEGREE IN ENGLISH.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF DEGREES, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THEM THAT DOUBLE MAJORS.

SORRY.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL LEAVE IT.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S STINKY, IT'S GOING TO BE SACRIFICED TO BE, WE DIDN'T CHANGE EVERYTHING.

OKAY.

YEAH.

INVESTIGATION BY COUNCIL.

GET IT TO FIVE THAT'S MAXIMUM

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AND THEY ENDED FINISH UP AT 7 57.

WE SLOT IN TO AUDIT AND EXAMINATION OF CITY BUGS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

I WOULD JUST ELIMINATE, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AUDIT EVERY YEAR.

THAT'S AN EIGHT IS WHAT IT IS.

TYPE FIVE.

GIVE A BIT, WE DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT IN A VOTER GUIDE.

YEAH.

NO.

ALREADY REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT'S LEFT OF THE BODY AFTER THE SURGERY.

THREE ARTICLES.

DEFINITELY.

DOESN'T GO TO 3.12.

YEAH.

SO WE WILL WAIT TO HEAR THE PRO THE NEW PROPOSED ARTICLE THREE LANGUAGE FOR NEXT YEAR.

LIKE I DID FOR OUR TO, I WILL GO BACK AND IN THAT OTHER CLEAN DOCUMENT WITH ALL THE RED BOXES, I'LL DO THAT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S ON THE RIGHT EXCHANGE ON THE LEFT.

WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE WHAT Y'ALL GET IS WE'RE NOT THAT ONE, BUT THE WORD VERSION, IT TRACKS THE SOFTWARE.

THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.

YEAH.

WE JUST FIGURED IT OUT.

IT'S THE, IT SHOWS CAUSE IT SHOWED ON GRADY'S BUT NOT ON MINE.

SO I JUST NEED TO SAVE IT OR OPEN UP SOMETHING ELSE I HAVE ALREADY MARKED UP FOR.

I'VE ALREADY MARKED UP VERSION BEFORE YOU CONSIDERED THEM.

SO YOU ALL KNOW WE'RE ONGOING RED BOXES FRANKENSTEIN.

THERE.

I WILL START OFF FIVE.

I DOUBT WE'D GET THROUGH FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

SO I THINK THAT WRAPS UP ITEM NUMBER THREE.

LET'S MOVE TO

[4. Discussion and possible action on the Charter Review Commission meeting schedule.]

NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT ONE ON THE BOOKS, SO WE'LL JUST MEET ON AUGUST 17TH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE THAT ONE JUST IN CASE WE EVER NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS.

YEAH.

EIGHT OR TWO WHERE'D YOU LEARN.