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ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED WHEN COUNCIL BOOTH COMES IN AND HE CAN

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JUST CATCH UP TO WHERE WE'RE AT, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED READY TO THE RIGHT.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

READY TO THE LEFT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELCOME TO OUR CITY ANGLETON COUNCIL MEETING, REGULAR MEETING, TUESDAY, AUGUST THE 10TH, 2021 AT 6:02 WE DO HAVE A FULL QUORUM PRESENT.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL US TO ORDER, IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE FOR OUR ALLEGIANCE.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND INVOCATION.

AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[INVOCATION] BOW WITH ME, PLEASE, FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY THAT YOU MADE.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU AND TO SERVE OUR CITIZENS OF THE CITY.

FATHER, GIVE US YOUR WISDOM TONIGHT AND HELP US TO DO THINGS THAT WOULD PLEASE YOU PUT A SMILE ON YOUR FACE FOR THESE PEOPLE.

LORD WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR US.

WE PRAY FOR OUR CITY STAFF AND IN ALL THAT THEY DO AND ALL THAT GOES WITH THEIR JOB.

THANK YOU AGAIN, IN CHRIST NAME, AMEN.

AMEN.

OK, ONCE AGAIN, WELCOME TO ALL OF OUR VISITORS THAT HAVE TRAVELED TONIGHT, AND THOSE I WISH YOU A SAFE TRAVELS ON YOUR WAY HOME TONIGHT.

IF YOU'RE COMING FROM A GREAT DISTANCE AND THOSE THAT ARE FROM OUR CITY THAT ARE COMING OUT TO LISTEN TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MS. FRANCIS, NO.

OK.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

[CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS]

WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM THIS EVENING.

OUR FIRST ONE IS, NUMBER ONE, A PRESENTATION OF DONATION FROM FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY ANGLETON LIBRARY FOR THE DICKEY PARK STORY WALK STRUCTURES, MRS. MEGAN.

YES, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN COLLABORATION WITH THE ANGLETON LIBRARY AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION FRIENDS OF THE ANGLETON LIBRARY TWENTY FOUR STORY WALK STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN INSTALLED ALONG THE DICKEY PARK TRAIL.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE OR HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AND TAKE A LOOK.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BOOK OUT THERE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS WEEK.

SO THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY OF THE ANGLETON LIBRARY CONTRIBUTED THREE THOUSAND TO INSTALL THOSE STRUCTURES.

WE DID DO A GRAND OPENING ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK.

SO WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COME OUT AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE LIBRARY HERE THIS EVENING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION.

IF YOU GUYS WOULD GO AHEAD AND COME UP AND IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AS WELL, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT BEFORE WE TAKE A PICTURE WITH CITY COUNCIL.

DON'T BE SHY, COME ON UP.

LIBRARY, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR WORKING WITH US TO CREATE THIS STORY WALK IT'S BEEN A FUN PROJECT FOR ME AND I'M SO GLAD WE COULD BRING IT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COME ON UP.

LET'S TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH.

[APPLAUSE] AND MYSELF AND THE CITY MANAGER AND A COUPLE OF STAFF MEMBERS IN COUNCILMAN GONGORA WERE OUT THERE, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO OUT THERE BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SOME LITTLE EXERCISE AND THEN READ A BOOK.

SO IF YOU HAVE SOME KIDDOS, I THINK THE ONE THAT'S OUT THERE IS ABOUT A CATERPILLAR OR A TOAD OR SOMETHING.

SO PLEASE GO OUT THERE AND PARTAKE IN THE ACTIVITIES OF EACH STORYBOARD STATION.

AND IT'S KIND OF COOL TO SEE THAT GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

YEAH, THERE'S ACTUALLY HAD FAMILY MEMBERS ACTUALLY POSTING ON THEIR FACEBOOK TAKE PICTURES OF THEM WITH THE STORY WALK AS WELL.

I TRY TO TAG THE CITY, BUT IT WOULDN'T LET ME.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GREAT THING AND IT GETS THE KIDS OUT READING AND WALKING.

WHEN THEY PUT THE ADULT BOOKS OUT THERE.

I MAY NOT GO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY READING LEVEL IS REALLY LOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT TO THAT LOWER LEVEL FOR ME.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WE HAVE EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS.

SO LITTLE DIFFERENT TONIGHT.

WE HAVE TWO SERVICE AWARDS.

AND THEY'RE NOT JUST BECAUSE OF TENURE, IT'S BECAUSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

SO TONIGHT, THE FIRST ONE THIS INDIVIDUAL DOESN'T KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IS FOR

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CHRIS WHITTAKER.

SO, CHRIS, WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU TONIGHT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE LEADER AND USUALLY YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

WELL, TONIGHT, WE KEPT THIS A LITTLE BIT OF A SECRET.

SO JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, CHRIS ACTUALLY JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED HIS ICMA CREDENTIALING MANAGER CERTIFICATION.

AND THAT'S A PRETTY STRENUOUS PROGRAM IN A NUTSHELL.

HE'S LEARNED DIFFERENT FACETS AND HAS BECOME MAYBE SOMEWHAT THE SUBJECT EXPERT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN THE FIELD.

BUT IT'S GIVEN HIM THE ABILITY TO LET US KNOW THAT HE'S ACHIEVED A LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE IN THE WORKINGS OF A CITY.

AND SO HE HAD TO TAKE SOME ONLINE CLASSES, TAKE CARE OF SOME THINGS IN PERSON.

AND HE'S MET ALL OF THOSE THINGS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE, AND THAT'S TENURE.

SO WHEN HE COMPLETES HIS TENURE, WHAT'S IT, TWO YEARS OR YEAR AND A HALF? I THINK IT'S YES.

SO SEVEN YEARS TOTAL.

SEVEN YEARS.

AND HE CAME FROM ANOTHER CITY.

SO HE'S GOT SOME TENURE THERE, SOME CITY TENURE HERE.

BUT ONCE HE COMPLETES, HE WILL BE FULLY ACCREDITED BY THE AGENCY THAT DOES THIS.

AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO PASS THIS BOAT UP TO LET OUR CITY KNOW AND OUR RESIDENTS KNOW THAT CHRIS WILL ACHIEVE PROVIDED HE STAYS HERE AND WE SEE NO REASON WHY NOT TO.

HE'LL GET HIS ICMA CREDENTIALING MANAGER AWARD.

AND SO WE WANT TO HONOR YOU AND RECOGNIZE YOU FOR THAT ACHIEVEMENT TONIGHT.

CHRIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[APPLAUSE] LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRIS.

YOU KNOW, IN BETWEEN BEING A PART OF THE THE GUARD AND DOING THAT SERVICE, BEING OUR CITY MANAGER, HOW DID YOU EVER FIND TIME TO DO THAT? WELL, CITY MANAGER IS KIND OF AN EASY JOB.

THERE'S A LOT OF FLEX TIME DURING THE DAY AND BUT ACTUALLY I WILL TAKE THE TIME TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT STAFF THAT DOES, YOU KNOW, THE STORY WALK OR ITS MARKETING OR WHATEVER.

IN THE PAST CITY, I HAD TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AND THEN I HAD TO DO THAT BECAUSE I WAS THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ENGINEER, THE CITY PLANNER, THE CITY MARKETING GUY.

BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT STAFF THAT DOES A LOT OF GREAT WORK.

WELL THANK YOU, CHRIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OK, THE NEXT ONE.

SORRY IF I GET A LITTLE EMOTIONAL TONIGHT.

YOU ALL KNOW ME.

I'M A SOFTY.

BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT ENDURED A LOSS THIS PAST WEEK AND IT WAS A LADY WHO WORKED AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT WAS KIND OF THE BACKBONE, AND SHE PASSED AWAY FRIDAY UNEXPECTEDLY.

AND SHE'S GOING TO BE TRULY MISSED IN OUR FIRE STATION.

SHE WAS THE ADMIN AND SHE WAS THE MAMA TO A LOT OF YOUNG FIREMEN.

AND I THOUGHT IT'D JUST BE FITTING NOT TO GO TWO WEEKS INTO OUR NEXT MEETING TO HONOR THIS LADY.

FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT I REACHED OUT TO OUR CHIEF WHO REACHED OUT TO THE FAMILY.

AND WE HAVE HER SISTER AND HER HUSBAND HERE TONIGHT.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

I KNOW THIS IS FRESH.

IT'S KIND OF THE BEGINNING PART, BUT I HOPE THIS HELPS IN YOUR HEALING PROCESS.

AND WE'RE HERE FOR YOU AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A CITY, WHATEVER YOU NEED YOU REACH OUT TO OUR CITY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE MISSY MEANT THE WORLD TO US.

SO I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT OUR CHIEF COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

HE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE'S UNDER QUARANTINE, SO HE CAN'T COME.

AND SO HE DID WANT ME TO SAY THAT ON BEHALF OF HIM AND THE FIRE GUYS, WE LOVE YOU.

WE'RE HERE FOR YOU AGAIN AS THE DEPARTMENT.

AND HE SAID, YOU CALL HIM DAY OR NIGHT, HE'S GOING TO BE THERE TO ANSWER YALLS PHONE CALL.

SO WHAT I HAVE IS A PROCLAMATION TO MISSY BECAUSE SHE WAS SUCH THAT INCREDIBLE LADY OVER AT THE FIREHOUSE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE NOBODY LIKE HER.

SHE ACTUALLY STEPPED INTO A ROLE THAT WAS CREATED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO AND SHE TOOK THAT ROLE AND SHE MADE IT WHAT IT IS TODAY AND PUT THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT WHERE IT IS TODAY AS FAR AS BEHIND THE SCENES IS WHAT SHE DID.

SO I HAVE A PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FROM THE CITY OF ANGLETON, WHEREAS TODAY WE HONOR AN OUTSTANDING WOMAN FOR DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS MELISSA, ALSO KNOWN AS MISSY PENNEY, GAINED HER WINGS ON AUGUST THE 6TH, 2021 IN HER COURAGEOUS FIGHT WITH CANCER.

AND WHEREAS MISSY WAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FOR THE ANGLETON FIRE DEPARTMENT

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SINCE JANUARY OF 2016 AND WAS THE BACKBONE TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THE DEPARTMENT, SHE TOOK CARE OF RECORDS, RECORDS REQUEST, INSURANCE BILLING, ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, KEEPING THE BOYS IN LINE WHEN IT CAME TO THEIR REPORT WRITING AND PITCHED IN WHEN A NATURAL DISASTER WAS IMMINENT, PLUS MANY OTHER TASKS.

WHEREAS MISSY DID MANY OTHER DUTIES LIKE VOLUNTEER FOR THE HAUNTED HOUSE, HELP WRAP GIFTS, COOK AND JUST LEARN TO EAR AND LISTEN TO TO THE MEN.

AND WHEREAS SHE WAS MARRIED TO RICK, HER LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE HUSBAND, AND WHEREAS MISSY LEFT HER MARK ON THE ANGLETON FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE WILL AND WE WILL DEEPLY MISS HER AND SO WILL SO MANY.

AND WE CATCH OURSELVES FROM TIME TO TIME WILL SAY MISSY HE DID THAT.

AND WHEREAS WE CAN ALL SAY SHE WAS THE SILENT FIRST RESPONDER FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

NOW, THEREFORE I JASON PEREZ MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AUGUST THE 10TH, 2021 AS MELISSA MISSY PENNEY DAY AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS OF ANGLETON TO TAKE A MOMENT HONOR TO TO HONOR THIS UNSELFISH FIRST RESPONDER FOR HER WORK, PRIDE, DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO THIS CITY SIGNED THIS DAY, AUGUST THE 10TH, 2021, JASON PEREZ, COME ON UP.

[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU.

SO THERE WILL BE A SERVICE MEMORIAL ON AUGUST 21ST.

ALL RIGHT, THAT COMPLETES THAT PART OF THE AGENDA.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE FUN STUFF, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, ALL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE SELF-EXPLANATORY BY THE COUNCIL WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS UNLESS REQUESTED BY THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER, IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEMS WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

NUMBER TWO, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF MAY 11, 2021, SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF MAY 25, 2021, REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF MAY 25, 2021, SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF JULY 27TH, 2021, REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF JULY 27TH, 2021.

NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210810-003, EXTENDING THE DISASTER DECLARATION SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON MARCH 17, 2020 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2021, REPEALING CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210810-004, EXTENDING THE DISASTER DECLARATION SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON FEBRUARY 15, 2021 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2021, REPEALING CONFECTING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

NUMBER FIVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210810-005 DECLARING PROPERTY SALVAGE OR SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZING THE DISPOSAL OR SALE OF CERTAIN ITEMS OF SURPLUS OR SALVAGE PROPERTY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, COUNCIL.

MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES.

MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARING AND ACTION ITEMS.

[6. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on the Riverwood Ranch Section 2 Subdivision preliminary replat. ]

NUMBER SIX, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE RIVERWOOD RANCH SECTION 2 SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY REPLAT.

YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT FOR RIVERWOOD RANCH SECTION 2 DON'T REALLY HAVE

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A WHOLE LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT.

IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT THE PROPERTIES IN.

IT ALSO MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST THE 5TH AND ON A MOTION TO APPROVE, VOTED TWO IN FAVOR FOUR AGAINST A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, WHICH BASICALLY, TO MY MIND MEANS THAT THERE IS NO RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON IT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND AS YOU'LL NOTE IN THE STAFF REPORT, STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT IF A PLAT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, YOU MUST APPROVE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, WALTER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT BRIEF.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON, FOR, AGAINST RIVERWOOD RANCH SECTION 2 SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY REPLAT.

MR. FOLEY, COME ON UP.

HEY GUYS, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COME UP HERE IN CASE ANY OF YOU ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS PROJECT LAST MONTH WHEN I WAS HERE, BUT JUST IN CASE ANYTHING POPPED UP, I'M HERE TO ADDRESS IT IF YOU NEED.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND THEN ALSO, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY RIVERWOOD IS ALSO ENDURING THE LOSS OF A PARTNER.

MICHAEL, I'VE LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

MICHAEL CARROLL ALSO UNEXPECTEDLY PASSED AWAY A FEW WEEKS AGO.

SO OUR CONDOLENCES TO YOU AND YOUR PARTNERS IN YOUR COMPANY.

AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT YOU GUYS UP THERE AT RIVERWOOD, WELL RIVERWAY.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? SECOND CALL, THIRD CALL, COUNCIL.

MAYOR I MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

MOTION BY A MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN .

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL.

I GUESS MY FIRST COMMENT IS IF P&Z SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES A MOTION TO APPROVE AND THAT GETS VOTED DOWN TO ME, THAT'S P&Z SAYING NO.

I JUST DON'T I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, AND I WATCHED THE MEETING, BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR FOUR OPPOSED? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT? IF YOU SAY IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT P&Z TURNS IT DOWN, WHAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND THAT? AS AS YOU STATED, MAYOR PRO TEM, THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

SO ANYTHING THAT I SAY IS GOING TO BE SPECULATION, BUT I'M QUITE SURE IT'S THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL BIG LOTS, LOT SIZE.

BUT AS I POINTED OUT AT THE P&Z MEETING AND IN MY REPORT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN A DECIDED ELEMENT THROUGH THE PD PROCESS.

SO THE LOT SIZES REALLY AREN'T A POINT OF DISCUSSION AND THEY REALLY SHOULD HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND APPROVED IT.

AND JOHN, I DID GO BACK AND WATCH THE TAPE AND THERE WAS TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT DID SAY; CAN'T SAY VERBATIM, BUT THE COMMENTS WERE I'M NOT FOR APPROVING ANYTHING LESS THAN A 60 FROM HERE FORWARD.

AND THAT WAS FROM TWO OF THE P&Z COMMISSIONERS WHO MADE THAT COMMENT.

SO THAT'S ONE THING I GOT OUT OF IT AS WELL, WAS JUST THAT PIECE OF IT.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LISTEN TO THE COMMISSION.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE LEGALESE.

I THINK THAT WALTER'S POINTING OUT THAT IF IT FITS THE CRITERIA, THEN THERE IS REALLY NO VOTE TO BE HAD OTHER THAN IT PASSES.

BUT THEY STILL VOICED THEIR OPINION.

SO WHETHER WE.

YOU KNOW, BIND OURSELVES IN POTENTIAL LITIGATION BY VOTING AGAINST SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AGAINST, APPARENTLY STATE LAWS, AS WALTERS PRESENTING IT, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A VERY LOADED QUESTION.

DO WE WANT TO GO THERE? BUT THE MESSAGE IS SAID AND SENT TO CITY COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S THE WAY I TAKE IT.

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SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY, I GUESS, SOME DISAGREEMENT.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE JUST FOLLOWING OUR LEAD.

I THINK THEY'RE SPEAKING OF THEIR OWN VOICE.

SO, I MEAN, WHICH IS GOOD.

WE NEED PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINION.

SO I HOPE WE RECEIVE IT IT'S NOT JUST FOLLOWING OUR LEAD, UNDERSTAND.

MR. FOLEY, JUST WANT TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION.

NOW, YOU'VE BEEN HERE AND YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW, I THINK, AND YOU KNOW WHERE WE'VE KIND OF GONE WHEN IT COMES FROM 45 TO 60.

AND I MEAN, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION TO CHANGE THESE LOT SIZES? THERE ACTUALLY, THERE'S NO SO WE HAD AN ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN WHEN WE APPROVED THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A MIX OF 45S, 50S AND 60S, CORRECT, WERE ADHERING INTO THAT PLAN.

BUT THE AMOUNT OF 60S HAS GONE UP JUST AS A CONSEQUENCE OF HOW IT'S BEEN ENGINEERED.

ORIGINALLY IT HAD 48 60S AND WE ARE UP TO 91 60S.

SO I THINK WE'VE KIND OF GROWN AS WELL.

IT WAS MORE OF OUR DENSITY REQUIREMENT BEING FOUR AND A HALF PER ACRE, SO MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THREE HUNDRED FIFTY AND HOW THAT SHAKES OUT WHEN YOU DESIGN THE SUBDIVISION.

IT LOOKS I CAN HAND THIS OUT IF YOU WANT THE OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ADHERING TO.

IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING IS THAT WAS APPROVED ORIGINALLY WITH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT BACK IN 2019 FOR SECTIONS ONE AND TWO AT THE 45S AND THEN GOING FORWARD AFTER THIS SECTION, IT'S ALL 50S AND 60S.

SO OUR TOTAL LOT SPLIT IS.

150, 45S.

110, 50S AND 91, 60S.

CAN YOU REPEAT THOSE AGAIN? 150, 45S.

110, 50S AND 91, 60S.

BECAUSE THE MAP THAT I SEE ON HERE.

IS SHOWING ME ALL 45S ON THE NEXT, THE PHASE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS SECTION TWO, SO SECTIONS ONE AND TWO ARE THE 150, 45S, RIGHT ,AFTER THAT NO MORE.

BUT THIS IS SECTION TWO HERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

AND THAT'S THERE'S NO 60S IN THAT.

THERE ARE 60S IN THERE WHERE I DIDN'T SEE THEM 50S AND 81 45S.

IF YOU LOOK AT BECAUSE WE HAD TWO PLATS WE SUBMITTED ONE WAS POWER IN THE FRONT AND ONE WAS POWER IN THE REAR.

THE REAR POWER LOTS HAS MORE 50S AND 60S AS A JUST RESULT OF HAVING TO GET POWER THROUGH THE LOTS.

HOW CAN YOU GET POWER TO THE 45S IN THE BACK? WELL, THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO CHANGE SOME OF THOSE TO 50S IN ORDER TO GET THE PRIMARY POWER THROUGH THE SIDE OF THE LOT.

I GUESS MY COMMENT REALLY GOES AROUND JUST THE STOMACH FOR 45S IS NOT THERE IN ANGLETON RIGHT NOW, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE PUTTING 60S ON THE THIRD SECTION.

BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS SECTION TWO AND YOU ALREADY HAVE SECTION ONE, WHICH IS ALMOST ALL 45S RIGHT.

YES, SECTION ONE IS 45S, SECTION 2 IS 45S.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHY YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE THE THE ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP FROM THE CITY SIDE, FROM WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING, WHAT THE COUNCIL, THE P&Z, WHY WOULD YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE RETHINK THE 45S RIGHT NOW, MOVE TO 60S ON SECTION TWO JUST TO BREAK IT UP A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF 45S YOU'RE PUTTING ON THE GROUND AT FIRST.

I UNDERSTAND WELL, NO, IT'S JUST WE DESIGNED THIS PROJECT AND ALL OF IT THREE HUNDRED FIFTY LOTS AT THE TIME WE DESIGNED IT.

THAT WASN'T THE CASE.

WE WERE TRYING TO BRING AFFORDABILITY TO ANGLETON WE HAD A CONCEPT PLAN.

ALL THIS WAS APPROVED.

I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T DEVIATED FROM WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO WITH THE CITY IN 2019.

WE'RE DONE EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO WE BUILT A PARK.

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WE WERE TOLD WE ONLY NEEDED TO SPEND ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND ON THAT PARK.

WE'RE UP TO FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND ON THAT PARK.

IF YOU GO BY IT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

AND THAT VALUE FOR THAT PART WAS A RESULT OF US BEING ABLE TO DO 45S ON SECTIONS ONE AND TWO.

SO THERE'S ALREADY COST WE ALREADY SIZED THE [INAUDIBLE] FOR SECTIONS ONE AND TWO TO SUPPORT THAT AMOUNT OF LOTS A LOT OF FORETHOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THIS.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ALL I DO LIKE THE.

LANDSCAPING THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED SO FAR, SO IT LOOKS GOOD.

I APPRECIATE YOUR PLANTING TREES AND HOWEVER, YOU KNOW MY CONCERN KIND OF.

I GUESS FOLLOWS A LITTLE BIT OFF OF JOHNS HERE, AND THAT IS MY CONCERN, WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU GUYS WILL BE AT THE COMPLETION OF SECTIONS ONE AND TWO AND WHERE THAT LEAVES US WHEN SECTION THREE COMES TO BE BUILT.

I'VE JUST KNOW THAT TIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY GO UP AND DOWN AND FOR BUILDING HOMES AND PURCHASING HOMES.

SO MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US AS THE CITY FOR SECTION THREE? AND WILL THE NEXT DEVELOPER HAVE THE SAME COMMITMENT TO THROWING IN AND MIXING IN THE 60 FEET WITH [INAUDIBLE] SO THAT'S A CONCERN.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHERE JOHN'S GETTING AT, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN IS EVERYTHING'S BACKLOADED ON THE 60 FOOT LOT SIZES NOT EVERYTHING MOSTLY.

AND SO THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M ON THAT, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH OTHER SUBDIVISIONS IN BRAZORIA COUNTY THAT WERE STARTED BY ONE DEVELOPER AND FINISHED BY A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER WITH IT ALMOST A CONTRASTING STYLE.

SO, RIGHT, I WOULD JUST GIVE YOU SOME PEACE OF MIND, LOOK AT MAYBE SOME OTHER ONES WE'VE DONE LIKE PEARLAND, LIKE RIVER STONE RANCH.

WE'VE COMPLETED EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE STARTED.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY MY I GUESS MY WHERE I'M COMING FROM IS THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU FIRST CAME TO US AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL KIND OF PRETTY MUCH NEW TO ALL THESE BIG DEVELOPMENTS TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.

AND I DON'T THINK THE P&Z NOR THE COUNCIL AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT I FEEL WE WERE WE DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE SIGNING UP FOR ON THE PD AT THE TIME AND KNOWING THAT IT WOULD THAT IT WOULD LOCK US INTO THIS TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD TO WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO THIS.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION FROM P&Z STANDPOINT AND, YOU KNOW, FROM MINE AS WELL, IS REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT WHAT THOSE PDS WERE INTENDED FOR AND HOW THEY WOULD LOCK US IN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO YOU SIGNED UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO DO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE WANTING TO DO BUSINESS AND YOU'VE GOT PLANS AND ASPIRATIONS OF FINISHING THEM.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU HEAR PEOPLE TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HIT THAT TREE, YOU DON'T KEEP DRIVING INTO THE TREE.

YOU STOP AND YOU CHANGE COURSE.

AND, YOU KNOW THE THING WE'RE HEARING A LOT OF IS NO MORE 45S.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S DRIVING THE BUS AT THE MOMENT.

AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GET PAST THAT.

WELL LET'S SWITCH SUBJECT MATTER BRIEFLY.

THERE ARE SOME RATHER LARGE OAK TREES THAT FACE DOWNEY, YEAH, AND I'M LOOKING AT YOUR SECTION TWO HERE, AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'D BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN SOME OF THOSE AND MAKE THESE LOTS.

WE ARE GOING TO SAVE ALL BUT TWO OF THOSE TREES.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS TIRELESSLY.

I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY DRAFTS DOUG AND I WENT BACK ON THIS PLAT ENGINEERING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEM.

ONE OF THEM, ONE OF [INAUDIBLE] ACTUALLY DIED DURING THIS PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

I'VE NOTICED THAT ONE.

SO THAT ONES' OUT.

BUT MOST OF THOSE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE, ESPECIALLY THE ONES ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK AROUND THOSE.

AND THEN FOR THE TWO THAT WE HAVE TO CUT DOWN, WE'VE ALREADY PLANTED ENOUGH.

BUT YOU SHOULD SEE THE LANDSCAPING OVERALL PLAN WE HAVE FOR THE SUBDIVISION.

I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO GO ALL AROUND THE OUTSIDE.

WE HAVE CORNER CUTS ON THAT PART HEAVY LANDSCAPE WE'LL HAVE THE DEVELOPER FENCING AROUND ALL OF IT.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

AND SO ALONG THE SAME LINES, IS THERE GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A TREE PER LOT OR TWO? WE HAVE TWO TREES PER LOT.

OK.

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WE ALSO HAVE A NICE SHRUBBERY, IS IT JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO YOU PLAN ON PUTTING TWO LIVE OAKS ON A LOT OF A 45 FOOT FOOT LOT.

NO ONE IS A LIVE OAK AND ONE THERE'S A SET OF EIGHT TREES THEY CAN CHOOSE FROM, AND THEN THERE'S A LANDSCAPER PACKAGE FOR I THINK IT'S LIKE 10 OR 15 BUSHES AND THERE'S A SUBSET OF OTHER ALLOWABLE SHRUBS.

AND I KNOW JUST YOUR DEVELOPMENT, YOUR SELLING POINT HERE, THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT BUYERS, JUST AS A GENERAL THOUGHT TWO LIVE OAKS ON A 45 FOOT LOT.

THAT'S TOO MUCH, AND YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH FOUNDATION AND STREET PROBLEMS AND CUTTING DOWN ON A BUNCH OF LIVE OAKS IN 15 YEARS, AND WE ADDRESS AND I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S YOUR FINANCE YOU'RE THROWING AWAY MONEY ESSENTIALLY AND PUTTING IN LIVE OAKS THAT WILL JUST OUTGROW EACH OTHER AND THE LOT SIZE.

BUT I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.

I DON'T ESPECIALLY ON A 45 EVEN ON 60 FOOT LOT THAT'S STILL A LOT BECAUSE I LIVED IN A MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY WHEN I LIVED IN PEARLAND AND WE CAME ACROSS THE SAME ISSUE.

AND IN TEN YEARS EVERYBODY WAS HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT TREE THEY WERE CUTTING DOWN.

SO THESE GUYS [INAUDIBLE] THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON THESE LANDSCAPING PACKAGES.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TREES THEY HAVE.

I KNOW IT'S TWO I CAN'T REMEMBER I KNOW IT'S NOT TO LIE, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE SECOND TREE IS.

SURE SURE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SLOW GROWERS AND DEPENDING ON THE SIZE THEY PUT IN THE GROUND, IF THEY'RE ONLY 10 FOOT TALL NOW, IT'LL TAKE YEARS FOR IT TO GROW OUT.

BUT DEPENDING ON IF THEY'RE ALREADY 15 FEET, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE SURPRISED IN 10 YEARS WHEN THEY GROW UP TO BE.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

WELL, I HEAR EVERYONE'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE SMALLER LOTS, AND I'M IN CONCERT WITH YOU.

I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT DOWN THE WAY.

AND MAYBE WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A LEARNING CURVE ON PDS AND WHAT'S HAPPENED AT RIVERWOOD RANCH, BUT THE MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED.

AND THEY'RE ADHERING TO THE MASTER PLAN.

AND AT THIS TIME TO THE CITY TO GO BACK AND SAY, NO, I DON'T THINK WOULD BE PRUDENT.

IT WOULD PUT THE WORD OUT THERE THAT, WELL, YOU CAN GO GET YOUR PLAN APPROVED BY THE CITY, BUT THE NEXT COUNCIL COMES IN THERE AND I'LL OR WHOEVER CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND AND MAKE YOU CHANGE YOUR OVERALL CHANGE YOUR PLAN, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET THAT KIND OF A NAME FOR THE CITY.

BUT.

I THINK AND I BELIEVE I HEAR THE PLANNING AND ZONING SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN 60 NO MATTER WHAT, YOU KNOW.

SO AND THAT'S THEIR.

THAT'S THEIR HEART.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE MY POSITION'S BEEN, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, PEOPLE ARE SOMEWHAT UPSET ABOUT THE 45S SOME ARE UPSET ABOUT 50S.

BUT WE ALSO DON'T HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONTENT THAT THERE'S THERE'S THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE THAN WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE GOING WELL.

YOU DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU DON'T EVER SAY ANYTHING UNTIL SOMETHING BAD IS HAPPENING.

SO WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW, I DO HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.

I'VE HEARD IT.

BUT ALSO, LIKE CECIL SAID, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS.

THAT WAS THE VISION.

WE HEARD IT.

THAT WAS THE GROWTH.

WE WANT TO SEE SOME GROWTH AND ANGLETON.

WE WANT TO SEE HOUSING.

WE WANT TO SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

AND NOW WE'RE TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S UPON US.

AND NOW THE BALL IS ROLLING AND WENT.

TODAY, THERE'S 19 UNDER-CONSTRUCTION IN HIS PLACE.

THERE'S 13 UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON ONE OTHER ON AUSTIN.

I'M SURE SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES ARE GETTING THEIR BALLS ROLLING THOSE GEARED FOR IT, JUST KIND OF WATCHING THE PROGRESS.

BUT I'VE ALSO HEARD FROM PEOPLE SAYING I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THEM SAY WE'RE BUILDING THOUSANDS OF SMALL LOTS AND WE'RE NOT BUILDING THOUSANDS OF SMALL LOTS.

OUR CITY STAFF HAS DEVELOPED A SPREADSHEET.

I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT.

THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENTS TO KNOW.

THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

I DID MY QUICK 8TH GRADE MATH TODAY, AND IF YOU ADDED UP THE 8 34 FOOT LOTS, THE 40S AND FORTY FIVES, NOW IT'S GOING TO CHANGE TONIGHT BECAUSE HE JUST CHANGED THE NUMBER.

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705.

WE HAVE THE 50S, FIFTY FIVE AND 60S, WHICH WE'RE KIND OF LEANING TOWARD.

1,221 AND OF THE 65 70 90 ON UP, WE'RE AT 224 BASED ON THAT NUMBER TODAY BEFORE I SEE HIS NUMBER OF THE 1,200 HOMES THAT WE'VE OBVIOUSLY LOOKED AT 32 PERCENT IN THAT 45 SMALLER.

50 55 AND 60.

56 PERCENT, THAT'S A LOT, AND THEN 65, 70 AND 90 AT 10 PERCENT.

NOW THE TOP NUMBERS ARE GOING TO ADJUST A LITTLE BIT A LOWER NUMBER IS GOING TO GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S NOT COMPLETELY ALL TOTALLY SMALL LOTS.

RANCHO HAS 70S AND 60S.

LOOK WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE IT'S A NICE SUBDIVISION.

SOME OF THESE ARE THE ONES.

YES, WE HAVE SOME VERY GLORIFIED, BEAUTIFUL, LARGE LIQUOR LOTS.

WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER TODAY, GUYS, LAND PRICE IS A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT WAS 20 AND 30 YEARS AGO WHEN PEOPLE COULD BUY LARGE TRACTS.

AND SO I HEAR IT.

I GET WE TALK ABOUT DENSITY.

WE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR STREETS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

BUT I'M WITH CECIL AND I WAS ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE.

WE HAVE TO ALSO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD ON OUR WORD.

THE WORD IS GETTING OUT.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT LATELY.

BUT I THINK, LIKE JOHN SAID, IT'S GROWING PAINS, KNOWING WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.

YEAH, WE DID A STRATEGIC PLAN THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO WAS ALL ABOUT BUILDING SOME HOUSES.

NOW THE HOUSES ARE HERE.

WE'VE KIND OF CHANGED THEIR TUNE A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO MAYBE IT'S TIME TO HOST THAT STRATEGIC PLAN WITH A FACET THAT SAYS ANGLETON RESIDENTS ALL WALKS OF LIFE, NOT JUST THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN YELLING AT US REALLY LOUD, BUT I WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERY CORNER OF THIS CITY, GOOD AND BAD, BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT.

WE ALL COMPLAIN WHEN IT'S ALL GOOD, BUT WE DO HEAR PEOPLE THAT COMPLAIN WHEN IT'S REALLY NOT WHAT THEY WANT.

AND SO IF IT'S A TOWN HALL MEETING, I MEAN, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE IT HERE REC CENTER, BECAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY GET A LOT OF PEOPLE.

LET'S HAVE ONE.

LET'S HEAR WHAT RESIDENTS, THE GOOD AND THE BAD, BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DO REPRESENT ALL.

SO I WANT TO HEAR FROM ALL FOUR CORNERS OF OUR CITY, ALL FOUR CORNERS, THE GOOD AND THE BAD.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I JUST WANT.

LET PEOPLE KNOW.

HERE'S HERE'S WHAT I GOT.

IT'S SITTING HERE.

SO IT'S NOT ALL LITTLE LOTS.

WE GOT A GOOD MIX.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PERFECT MIX, BUT IT'S A GOOD MIX FROM SMALL TO LARGE.

I SEE IT TODAY.

NOW, TOMORROW MAY BE DIFFERENT AS WE MOVE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

OF COURSE, THERE'S NOT MUCH TRACKS LEFT IN THE CITY ANYMORE.

EVERYTHING'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.

IT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY PRETTY MUCH.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THIS IS WHAT KIND OF WHAT WE ALREADY KIND OF TENTATIVELY SAID.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

THIS IS WHAT WE SEE.

I JUST WANT TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE SO.

SO I THINK THERE'S.

HOW SHOULD WE SAY THIS, HOW YOU DEFINE THINGS IS THE WAY THAT ARGUMENT WAS PRESENTED TO ME.

TO ME, A 50 FOOT LOT IS STILL A SMALL LOT AND [INAUDIBLE] TO ME IN THREE GROUPS THERE WAS A SMALL 45 OR LESS A MEDIUM 50, 55 AND 60S.

AND THEN THERE WAS LARGE ANYTHING EXCESS OF 60 FEET.

YOU DESCRIBED IT IN THIRDS.

OK, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT TO ME, IF YOU START THROWING THE 50S INTO THE SMALL CATEGORY, WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY A SMALL LOT FOR ANGLETON, I THINK CECIL LAID IT OUT VERY CLEARLY, MADE A NICE [INAUDIBLE] ARGUMENT THE ONE NIGHT WE WERE THERE ON DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF ANGLETON THAT ANYTHING SUB 50 60 IS A SMALL LOT BY OUR STANDARDS.

SO I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT NUMBERS AND WHAT PERCENTAGES THAT REALLY FALLS INTO.

I MAY DISAGREE WITH YOUR PERCENTAGES.

THE NUMBERS, THE RAW NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, BUT THAT'S A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT'S CONSIDERED.

MY MESSAGE WAS I KEEP HEARING FROM PEOPLE THAT SAY YOU'RE BUILDING NOTHING BUT SMALL LOTS, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME 60, 65, 70 AND 55.

THAT'S FIVE FEET RIGHT HERE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES WHAT I'M JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW I WANT THEM TO KNOW THIS IS WHAT'S ON THE TABLE.

AND IT'S NOT ALL SMALL LOTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE LIKE.

THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW.

SURE.

NOTHING SMALL.

I UNDERSTAND THE MARKET TOO YOU MAKE A VALID ARGUMENT ABOUT WHAT THE MARKET IS THEN THE MARKET, RISING COSTS AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.

WHAT I DO THINK IT NEEDS MY OPINION NOT TO GO TOO FAR DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE HERE.

SURE.

BUT THERE SHOULD BE A VISION AND A PLAN FOR THE CITY.

AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT ALREADY ABOUT THE WORDS OF P&Z COMMISSIONERS.

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I THINK THE DEBATES THAT WE'VE HAD UP HERE AND I KNOW WE'VE PROBABLY TALKED CIRCLES AROUND THE SUBJECT, BUT WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS NOT JUST THE CITY TOWN HALL, BUT A THERE ARE, AS YOU STATED, MR. MAYOR, THERE ARE A LIMITED NUMBER OF TRACKS AVAILABLE LEFT IN THE CITY.

I THINK WE SHOULD START LOOKING TO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THOSE TRACKS IN IT? AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO GEAR THOSE TRACKS TOWARDS LARGER ESTATE STYLE HOMES WHERE IT'S A 70 FOOT LOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD TRULY COUNTERBALANCE THE OPTIONS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTLY BUILT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

AND I KNOW THAT MR. MAYOR LIKES THE DIVERSITY, AND THAT'S GREAT.

I'M NOT DISAGREEING.

THERE NEEDS TO BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THE CONSENSUS OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS THE WHAT I MEAN, EVERY PERSON WHO'S COME HERE, WHETHER IT'S MICHAEL FOLEY, PROBABLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REG APLAN, BUT EVERY OTHER DEVELOPER HAS USED THAT TERMINOLOGY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THAT'S GREAT.

I MEAN, WE ALL GOT TO LIVE IN HOUSES THAT WE CAN AFFORD, BUT WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO ATTRACT A DIVERSITY OF PURCHASERS.

AND IT SHOULDN'T ONLY BE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I MEAN, WE SHOULDN'T BE WE SHOULD HAVE OPTIONS IN THE TOWN THAT I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE THERE'S THERE ARE SOME PLOTS OUT THERE WAS THE RANCH OUTSIDE OF [INAUDIBLE] RANCH.

I MEAN, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL PROPERTIES THAT I WOULD HATE TO SEE CLEAR, CLEAR CUT.

FORTY FIVE FOOT LOTS, WHICH JUST WOULD BE ALMOST A TRAGEDY.

IT WILL PUT A STRAIN ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WE ALREADY KNOW YOU'VE SAT IN ALL THESE MEANS YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I.

SO I'M NOT EVER GOING TO TRY TO SPEAK TO YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE ABOVE ME ON THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW ALL THE CHALLENGES IN FRONT OF US AND THERE WILL BE YOU PUT MORE CARS ON THE ROAD, YOU PUT MORE PEOPLE TAKING IN WATER, YOU TAKE YOU PUT WE WILL HAVE FLOODING EVENTS, NOT AS GLENN ALWAYS LIKES TO SAY.

IT'S NOT IF IT'S WHEN.

YOU KNOW, EVEN THE TIMES THAT WE HAVE DROUGHTS CAUSE PROBLEMS. SO IT GOES BOTH WAYS.

ANYWAY, I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO TO HAVE A START US LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE PARTICULAR OPEN LOTS, AS YOU TALKED ABOUT, AND GEARING THEM FOR THE OPPOSITE END.

LET'S LET'S HAVE THE DIVERSITY ACTUALLY BE SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPREAD THEIR WINGS, SO TO SPEAK, AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE SPACE, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYBODY ELSE? GO AHEAD, [INAUDIBLE] REAL QUICK QUESTION.

IS THIS THE ONLY STREET IN THIS SUBDIVISION THAT HAS THE NAME HOSPITAL ASSIGNED TO IT HOSPITAL LANE? THANK YOU.

IT'S A LOT.

WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF HOSPITAL DRIVE IS THE ROAD THAT GOES TO THE HOSPITAL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN [INAUDIBLE] TOWN, BUT EVERYBODY IN HERE HAS GROWN UP WITH [INAUDIBLE] OK, I DON'T WANT TO GET PEOPLE TO GET IN THE WRONG PLACE.

I GUESS MR. MAYOR I GOT TO THROW MY TWO CENTS ON THIS.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

WE'RE ALL HERE.

GO AHEAD.

SO A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO I SAT HERE AND I EVEN SAID, IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, ANYBODY IN THIS TOWN THAT WANTS THESE 45S AND THESE 50S, PLEASE COME TELL ME, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD ONE YET.

I CAN TELL YOU AS OF TODAY, NOBODY HAS CONTACTED ME TO TELL ME THAT THEY LIKE THEM.

AND I SOLICIT AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS ANYBODY TRYING TO FIND OUT BECAUSE I DO.

I HEAR THE WORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT GETS THROWN AROUND A LOT.

AND REALLY WHAT IS AFFORDABLE IT'S WHATEVER YOU CAN AFFORD, HONESTLY.

SO IF YOU CAN AFFORD FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND, THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO YOU.

BUT THE ISSUE IS I KEEP HEARING FROM PEOPLE THAT KEEP MOVING TO ANGLETON AND THEY DON'T TELL ME THEY CAME AND THEY MOVED TO ANGLETON BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LIVE ON A 45 FOOT LOT.

THEY GOT OTHER CITY BECAUSE THEY WANTED ACREAGE AND ANGLETON IS ACREAGE TO THEM AND THAT'S HOW THEY SEE IT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE SOME.

AND I MEAN, I'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH WITH YOU ALL ALONG ON ALL THESE IN THE PAST THREE YEARS.

BUT I MEAN, I NOTICED A TREND PRETTY QUICKLY THAT WE WERE SIGNING UP FOR.

AND BY THEN WE'D ALREADY GONE INTO PD ON THESE.

I ACTUALLY VOTED AGAINST [INADUIBLE] GREEN ON SECTION THREE BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT 35 FOOT LOTS OR 30, WHICH ONE IT WAS THE ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY PUSH BACK AND

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I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS TODAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WANTED A MORATORIUM ON ALL RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, BUT WE'RE AT THIS POINT WHERE IT'S DRYING UP NOW.

AND I THINK WE'RE ALREADY THERE.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MOVING WAY TOO FAST ON ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

I WILL SAY THAT THERE ISN'T A NECESSITY FOR SOME OF IT, AND I'M NOT SURE ALL OF IT IS GOING TO BUILD OUT.

I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST WORRIES, IS WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL THESE HOUSES ON THE GROUND AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE LEFT WITH IN 5, 10 YEARS? I JUST REALLY THINK IT'S UP TO OUR WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF THESE DEVELOPERS AT THE MOMENT AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RECOGNIZING THE SAME THINGS WE'RE RECOGNIZING AS A LOT OF PUSHBACK AND WHAT CAN WE DO? I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF A TOWN HALL I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT AND NOT JUST ONE ALL OVER TOWN.

HAVE ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, HAVE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, HAVE ONE ON THE WEST AND THE EAST.

LET LET PEOPLE COME OUT AND VOICE THEIR OPINIONS, BECAUSE FROM EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD, IT'S NOT FAVORABLE.

AND IF YOU'RE HEARING OTHERWISE, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE A CITY STAFF THAT LIVED IN THE SUBDIVISION THAT COULD AFFORD THAT AREA.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OWN STAFF LIVE IN SOME OF THESE SMALLER LOT SUBDIVISION COMMUNITIES.

AND I THINK THE THING IS, THOUGH, IT'S THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, THOUGH THOSE SUBDIVISIONS HAVE BEEN BUILT IN SECTION ONE, HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THIS SECTION, WILL VOTE HERE IN A SECOND ON SECTION TWO.

THAT MAY BE AN ADDITIONAL WERE APPROACHING ANOTHER SECTION HERE LATER TONIGHT WILL BE A VERY SIMILAR BUILD OF CONSTRUCTION.

SO THE OPPORTUNITIES SEEM TO PRESENT THEMSELVES.

AND I REMEMBER JUST LAST MEETING WE APPROVED TOWNHOMES, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT WAS CONDOMINIUMS, TOWN HOMES.

IT WAS OVER THERE.

SO WHERE THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF, I DON'T THINK COUNCIL HAS PUT ITSELF IN A POSITION THAT WE'RE AGAINST PEOPLE HAVING A DIVERSITY OF OPTIONS, OK? AND THAT'S THOSE THOSE HOMES THAT WILL HAVE A WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, A SHARED SIDEWALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S CONDOMINIUM OR SOME SORT OF TOWNHOME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THERE ARE GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITIES STILL IN POCKETS IN THIS CITY WHERE THOSE WILL FIT AND THEY WILL BRING A DIVERSITY OF OPTIONS FOR PURCHASERS.

OK, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW IN THIS CITY AND SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD ALSO EXPLORE.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M NEW.

I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT HERE.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OLDER HOMES THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO JUST BUILD OUT AND ABANDONED OLDER HOMES.

LET'S FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO TO REINVEST RIGHT HERE IN THE HEART OF ANGLETON, THE CENTRAL PART OF THE SOUTH PART OF TOWN, NOT TOO FAR FROM CITY HALL.

AS WE GO A LITTLE BIT NORTH THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE BUILD THOSE ROADS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING, I THINK WE'LL SEE AN INVESTMENT LIKE WE'RE SEEING ON RICHMOND STREET.

YOU'LL SEE LIKE ON SOUTH SIDE.

I THINK THESE WILL PROVIDE SOME GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO I DON'T WANT US TO ALWAYS LOOK OUT.

I WANT US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF WHAT'S HERE.

AND I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT THERE.

BUT I DO THINK JUST BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE PUSH BACK DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE ANTI.

I THINK IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED FOR THE CONDOMINIUMS LAST WEEK.

SO IT'S NOT THAT WERE AGAINST IT.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO VOICE THE CONCERNS OF SIMILAR TO JOHN.

I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYBODY SPEAK FOR IT.

I'M ALL FOR HAVING A TOWN HALL.

I WOULD LOVE FEEDBACK, BUT I REALLY DO THINK AND THIS IS JUST I'M GOING TO KEEP PUSHING THIS POINT THAT THERE ARE SOME LOTS THAT ARE PLANNED ARE STILL OUT THERE.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD START GEARING THOSE TOWARDS LEAVING THEM MARKED MORE TOWARDS SEVEN POINT TWO AND LARGER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS AND I THINK THEY WILL SERVE AS A NICE COUNTERBALANCE.

AND I THINK WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE'LL HAVE A FAIRLY EVEN DIVIDE OF WHAT YOU CALLED, I'D SAY SMALLER LOTS, 50 FEET OR SMALLER TO ME, OK.

AND 55 AND LARGER UP.

I THINK THAT WILL END UP BEING A PRETTY EVEN SPLIT, WHICH IS GOOD FOR ECONOMICS OF THE CITY.

OK, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME GOOD, I THINK, ECONOMIC FACTORS.

YOU CAN CONSIDER HAVING LARGER ESTATE TYPE STYLE HOMES IN THE CITY.

WE ALL KNOW THAT DALLAS IS A BIG, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF OUR INDUSTRY IN CENTRAL SOUTHERN BRAZORIA COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE ENGINEERS COME HERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT WOULD SUPPORT IT.

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AND I THINK PEOPLE WOULD LIKE THE TOWN, THE SMALL TOWN FEEL OF ANGLETON AND THE GOOD SCHOOLS.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT TO SELL.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO PURCHASE, THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO END UP IN ANGLETON.

THEY'RE GOING TO END UP IN LAKE JACKSON AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE PAST US UP TO MANVEL.

OR HECK, THEY MIGHT EVEN JUST GO TO IOWA COLONY, WHERE THERE'S A NICE BIG SUBDIVISION BEING BUILT UP THERE NO LESS THAN 15, 20 MINUTES FROM HERE.

AND IF THEY CAN DO IT I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T.

JUST MY OPINION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

WELL IT'S THAT GREAT MIX.

WE DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S NOT A MAGIC BOOK OUT THERE.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT TELL US WHAT THAT MIX IS GOING TO BE.

I JUST ALSO LOOK AT LIKE YOU SAID, WE ALL TOSSED AROUND AFFORDABILITY.

I'VE HAD FIGURES OUT THERE BEFORE WHAT'S AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, NURSES, TEACHERS, SECURITY GUARDS, OPERATORS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WHAT THEY MAKE WE ALL KNOW WHAT KIND OF THEIR PRICE RANGE IS NEW, NOT ESTABLISHED, NOT A DEPARTMENT HEAD, NOT A DIRECTOR AT A HOSPITAL.

I'M TALKING A BRAND NEW NURSE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK I TOLD Y'ALL THE FIGURES BECAUSE I REACHED OUT TO MY FRIENDS AND SAID, WHAT IS AN ENTRY LEVEL THIS, THIS AND THIS? AND, YOU KNOW, I DO SEE IT.

YEAH, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD A SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOME, BECAUSE I THINK REG BESIDE ME IS GOING TO BUILD EVERYTHING FROM THREE FIFTY FOUR HUNDRED ON UP TO EIGHT HUNDRED.

SO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF PROBABLY THE INCOME LEVEL WHO THAT MIGHT BE AN ENGINEER, A PHYSICIAN, AN ATTORNEY.

I JUST SEE THERE'S A LOT MORE SOME OF THESE OTHER MORE.

RATIO TO THAT KIND OF PERSON OR JOB STYLE, I SEE IT DIFFERENTLY.

THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE TEACHERS THAN OUR PRINCIPALS THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE NURSES THAN THERE ARE DOCTORS.

THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE OPERATORS THAN ENGINEERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DO SEE THERE'S A NEED.

WHERE DOES THAT FIT? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND I'M ALL FOR IT BECAUSE I AM READY TO PUT THIS TO BED, GUYS.

I'M READY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GO BECAUSE WE GOT TO THE HUMP AT THE BEGINNING.

WE CHEERLEAD FOR IT.

AND I'VE SAT WITH THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND WE TALKED ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT ANGLETON TO LOOK LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO BE.

WE HAVE NO HOUSES, WE HAVE NO COMMERCIAL.

WE HAVE NO NOTHING HERE.

AND NOW IT'S HERE ITS' LIKE HOLD THE PHONE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SEE, OK, LET'S PICK UP THE PHONE AGAIN AND THEN WE NEED TO DIAL BACK IN AND LET'S FIGURE IT OUT, BECAUSE I'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, LOCAL ESTABLISHMENTS, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, LOCAL BUSINESSES HERE IN TOWN AND IT'S UPON US.

AND I KNOW IT'S OVERWHELMING.

IT'S OVERWHELMING FOR ME BECAUSE IT IS A LOT.

AND WE STAND TO GAIN 5000 NEW RESIDENTS IN THE NEXT FIVE TO SIX YEARS.

CHRIS AND I WERE AT A HOUSING MEETING LAST WEEK WITH THE SOUTHERN PARTNERS, LAKE JACKSON, CLUTE, FREEPORT.

THEY'RE ENVIOUS OF US, FOR ONE, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THIS LAND.

BUT THEY DID SAY IT'S OUR TIME TO SHINE ANGLETON'S TIME TO SHINE.

AND SO WE JUST HAD THIS MEETING.

THAT'S WHY I HAVE THIS CHART, TOO, BECAUSE WE HAD IT READY PREPPED FOR THIS MEETING.

TOWNHOMES IS ON THE LIST.

APARTMENTS IS ON THE LIST FOR ANGLETON.

IT'S IN THE HOUSING STUDY THAT THE ALLIANCE DID A FEW YEARS AGO.

WE'RE PRIMED FOR SOME OF THAT HERE, BUT WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE AND WHEN, IF WE'RE GOING TO EVEN ALLOW IT.

BUT IT WAS IN THE HOUSING STUDY THAT WE DID NOT DO.

THE CITY DID NOT DO IT.

IT WAS DONE BY THE ALLIANCE AND IT REFLECTED THAT AND IT REFLECTED SMALL LOTS AND LARGER LOTS.

AND SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT THAT BALANCE.

IT'S HARD, GUYS.

I KNOW IT IS WILL APPRECIATE THIS UNDERSTANDING.

I HEAR THE PASSION.

I THINK THAT'S GOOD TO BE TAKEN UP AT A CITY COUNCIL, AT A TOWN HALL MEETING.

WE HAVE AN ITEM IN FRONT OF US HERE.

I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE.

WE GOT NINETEEN MORE TO DO AFTER THIS [INAUDIBLE].

COUNCIL WHAT IS YALLS PLEASURE? I MOVE WE APPROVED, THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT OF RIVERWOOD RANCH SECTION 2, I'LL SECOND IT.

MOTION BY COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN, AYE THESE TWO I'M SORRY.

TWO NAYS THREE TO THAT MOTION CARRIES.

OK NUMBER SEVEN BECAUSE MAYBE WE CAN GET A YES SIR.

AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON HANDCOCK SUBDIVISION CONSOLIDATION REPLAT AND A VARIANCE TO

[7. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on the Hancock Subdivision consolidation replat and a variance of Section 23.12 requiring a right-of-way dedication. ]

SECTION 23 .

12 REQUIRING A RIGHT OF WEIGHT DEDICATION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I'M GOING TO TRY AND DO THIS A AS BRIEFLY AS POSSIBLE AND B AS NOT CONFUSING AS POSSIBLE.

SO THIS IS A REQUEST TO REPLAT THREE LOTS AND TWO LOTS.

THE ORIGINAL REQUEST HAD THE ORIGINAL THREE LOTS FACED ON THE HANCOCK STREET DURING

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THE REVIEW PROCESS OF THAT, AND THE TWO PROPOSED LOTS WOULD HAVE ORIGINALLY FACED ON HANCOCK'S STREET.

DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZES FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT THE PROPERTY IS IN WEREN'T BEING MET AND THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH WASN'T BEING MET.

AND SO WE SUGGESTED THAT THEY TURNED THE LOTS TO FACE ORANGE STREET, WHICH WOULD GET THEM ENOUGH LOT WIDTH.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION'S THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED ON HANCOCK AND ON THE ORANGE STREET SIDE, THEY WOULDN'T GET THE MINIMUM LOT AREA.

SO THIS IS A THE REASON THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR THAT VARIANCE TO BE PROCESSED TO THE RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION.

BOTH HANCOCK STREET AND ORANGE STREET ARE DESIGNATED AS ARTERIAL STREETS ON A MOBILITY PLAN.

I BELIEVE THE REQUIRED RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION ONE HANCOCK IS FIVE FEET AND THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ON ORANGE, I THINK IS TWENTY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MOBILITY PLAN, ORANGE STREET LOOKS LIKE AT ONE POINT IN TIME IT WAS PLANNED TO BE A ONE WAY COUPLET WITH MULBERRY STREET, MULBERRY BEING THE WESTBOUND STREET, ORANGE BEING THE EASTBOUND STREET.

DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ON THIS, TWO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS COMMENTED THAT THE REASON IT WAS ON THE MOBILITY PLAN LIKE THAT WAS BECAUSE TXDOT HAD A PLAN TO DO THAT.

WELL, I CONTACTED BOTH THE MPO AND THE LOCAL TXDOT OFFICE.

THE MPO HAS NO SUCH PLAN ON THEIR TIP AND THE TXDOT OFFICE SAID THAT, NOPE, THAT'S NOT A PLAN THAT THEY HAVE EITHER.

ORANGE STREET IS NOT A TXDOT STREET.

TO TURN THAT INTO A ONE WAY COUPLET WITH MULBERRY WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO DO THAT.

AND BECAUSE THAT PROJECT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO NOT ONLY BUY UP A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF RIGHT AWAY, THEY'D ALSO HAVE TO COORDINATE A WAY TO GET ACROSS ACROSS BUSINESS 288 COORDINATE SIGNALIZATION OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS, THEN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN COME BACK AND PROBABLY BUY UP SOME MORE RIGHT AWAY TO GET TO MULBERRY STREET.

SO IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THAT IS EVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

DID YOU GET THAT IN WRITING? I'M GLAD YOU GOT THE ANSWER FROM THE MPO YES.

TXDOT WAS THE PHONE CALL THIS MORNING.

TXDOT IS THE ONE I'D GET IT IN WRITING FROM.

THEY ACTUALLY DID HAVE A PLAN.

WE ALL SAW IT.

COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REPLAT AND THE VARIANCE.

AND THE STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REPLAT AND THE VARIANCE.

THANK YOU, WALTER, MR. BOOTH YOU HAVE A QUESTION COMMENT? BLOW THE DUST OFF.

HERE'S THE HISTORIC RAILROAD COMPANY MADE A DEAL WITH THE CITY TO DONATE THE OLD RAILROAD THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY AND CITY CAME THROUGH HERE AND WORKED IN CONCERT WITH THE TXDOT DECIDED TO BUILD LOOP 274.

LOOP 274 IS COMPOSED OF HANDCOCK STREET, THE OLD RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY, WHICH ITSELF WAS 200 FEET WIDE, AND FRONT STREET, WHICH IS SO THE SIDE STREETS FOR 40 EACH.

THEY WERE INCORPORATED INTO LOOP 274.

SO WHAT USED TO BE HANDCOCK STREETS AND FRONT STREETS ARE NOW PART OF AND MAINTAINED BY TXDOT.

YOU SEE THE DRAINAGE OUT THERE.

YOU SEE EVERYTHING WAS CONSTRUCTED BY TXDOT AND THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND BELIEF.

THOSE ARE MAINTAINED BY TXDOT THE SAME AS [INAUDIBLE] STREET.

ON THE MOBILITY PLAN WE NEED TO DESIGNATE THAT NORTH SOUTH RED LINE AS LOOP 274 AND NOT HANCOCK STREET THAT'S A MISSED [INAUDIBLE] ON THE PLAT IS HUMAN ERROR.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN I DID [INAUDIBLE] IN THE LATE 90S OR EARLY 2000S WHEN I WORKED AT BAKER [INAUDIBLE] AND TXDOT CAME TO[INAUDIBLE] AND ASKED TO PREPARE A RIGHT AWAY MAP FOR THE SPLIT OF HIGHWAY 35 SO THAT THE EAST BOUND HIGHWAY 35 COULD TAKE IN ORANGE STREET AND WESTBOUND 35 WOULD STAY ON MULBERRY EASTBOUND 35 WAS GOING TO DIVERT FROM MULBERRY OVER BY WHAT WE CALL ERSKIN STREET OR CANNON STREET.

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THERE'S A DITCH THERE.

IT WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY PARK DEPARTMENT BUILDING THAT WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN UP AND IT WAS GOING TO MERGE INTO ORANGE STREET THERE AT ERSKIN, FOLLOW ORANGE STREET TO THE EAST, ACROSS THE LOOP, ACROSS GLASGOW, OVER ACROSS ANDERSON STREET.

AND THEN AT ABOUT WHERE ROCK ISLAND IS VEER BACK TO THE NORTHERLY AND AND MERGE UP WITH MULBERRY SOMEWHERE IN THERE WHERE THE FEED STORE IS.

SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT WAS A HOT TOPIC FOR TXDOT.

SINCE THEN, IT'S BEEN QUIET.

I HAVEN'T HEARD A WORD, HADN'T HEARD A PEEP ABOUT, AND THAT'S HOW THE RED LINES GOT DRAWN ON THEM, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WALTER.

SO TXDOT HAD PLANNED TO DO THAT WITHOUT WITHOUT TAKING ANYTHING BUT CORNER CLIPS ALONG ORANGE STREET.

THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A PUT DON'T PUT IT INTO WHERE IT WAS 70 FEET WIDE.

THEY WERE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE 70 FOOT WIDE RIGHT AWAY.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GOT OUT OF THE TOWNSITE INTO THE OTHER PART OF THE TOWN, IT WAS JUST 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.

SO THEY WEREN'T TAKING ANY ADDING ANY WIDTH.

BUT SINCE IS ONE WAY, ONE WAY STREET, THEY DIDN'T NEED ANY MORE.

I THINK THE AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY'VE GIVEN UP ON IT OR PUT IT SO FAR IN THE BACK BURNER IT MAY NEVER, NEVER RISE AGAIN, BUT.

THAT'S THE HISTORY THAT.

ALL RIGHT, MR. BOOTH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THERE YOU GO.

SO THAT'S HOW IT GOT THE WAY IT IS [INAUDIBLE].

SO NOW WE NEED TO OPEN UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'M SORRY.

WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT.

IT'S OK.

MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING ANYBODY WANTED TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? GOING ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES.

COUNCIL.

MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

MOTION BY TOWNSEND COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

I APOLOGIZE AGAIN.

I SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME TO HUSH AND WAIT MY TURN.

THAT'S OK, THAT MAY ALLEVIATE SOME QUESTIONS.

OK, ALL RIGHT.

OK NOW COUNCIL, WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM POSSIBLY OR DISCUSSION ITEM.

SO BASICALLY THIS BACKS UP TO THE DOLLAR GENERAL THERE AT THE CORNER OF 274 AND THIRTY FIVE [INAUDIBLE].

IT LOOKS LIKE IT.

I THINK THEY THE DRIVEWAYS FROM WHAT WOULD BE HANDCOCK TO ORANGE STREET IN THE FRONT FACING OF THE HOUSE.

YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT UP FOR MR. [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S CORRECT.

THE ORIENTATION OF THE LOTS WOULD MOVE FROM HANDCOCK TO ORANGE STREET AND WITH THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE ON THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION, THE LOTS WILL MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT AT THE PROPERTIES.

AND, YOU KNOW, OVER THERE, THE NEIGHBORS TO I GUESS, THE WEST ON ORANGE STREET.

ARE THEY ORIENTED FACING ORANGE STREET AS WELL? I BELIEVE SO, YES.

SO IT'D BE CONSISTENT THERE.

YEAH.

OK, WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE.

SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

STREET.

RIGHT.

THEY CONFIRMED.

WHAT, WHAT THIS PERSON IS DOING IS TAKING SOME LITTLE SKINNY THIRTY THREE AND THIRTY THREE AND A HALF FOOT LOTS THAT DID AT ONE TIME FACE HANCOCK STREET BACK WHEN THE ORIGINAL TOWN SIDE OF ANGLETON WAS PLATTED.

THEY MAY HAVE HAD AN 18 IN FRONT OF IT AT THAT TIME, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT AND THE BASICALLY USELESS UNLESS YOU WANT TO PUT A TRAILER HOUSE ON THERE OR SOMETHING.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THAT'S WHAT.

SOMEBODY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUYING IF THEY WANT TO BUY IT BEHIND DOLLAR GENERAL, HEY IT MIGHT BE CONVENIENT SO.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSE.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER EIGHT CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION

[8. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on an Ordinance No. 20210810- 008 rezoning an approximate 164.50 acres of land in the J. de J. Valderas Survey, Abstract No. 380, Brazoria County, Texas from the Agricultural District (AG) to a Planned Development (PD) District.]

ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210810-008, REZONING IN APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR

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POINT FIVE ZERO ACRES OF LAND.

AND THE J.DE.

J.

VALDERAS SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 380 BRAZORIA COUNTY, TEXAS, FROM AGRICULTURE, ALSO KNOWN AS AG TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS PD DISTRICT.

MR. WALT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THIS IS A LONG STORY SHORT.

THIS PROPERTY WAS THE SUBJECT OF A REZONING REQUEST TO THE SF5 DISTRICT THAT Y'ALL TABLED IN MARCH, AND IT WAS BROUGHT OFF THE TABLE FOR THE JUNE TWENTY SECOND, I BELIEVE, CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT WHICH WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SF5 AND APPROVED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS ALSO ON THAT AGENDA.

AND THE CONSENSUS AMONG THE COUNCIL WAS THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE THIS COME BACK AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

THE ORDINANCE IN THE BACK UP REFLECTS THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FENCING PLAN, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

THAT'S A COLOR DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS WHERE THE FENCE IS GOING TO GO IN THE PROPERTY.

ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE IS THE PROPOSED LOT SIZES.

THE LOT MIX THE LAND PLAN THAT SHOWS THE PHASES, THE DESIGNATION OF THE AREA FOR COMMERCIAL OFFICE SLASH RETAIL USES THAT THAT Y'ALL HAD INDICATED THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE THERE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST THE 5TH AND ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO TWO.

SO MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE'RE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY LIKING TO SPEAK ON, FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, GOING TWICE.

THREE TIME, OH MR. RAY? WE WANT YOUR ADDRESS, BY THE WAY.

I'M JUST [LAUGHTER] CITY'S FINE.

WE'LL MAIL YOUR POSTCARD.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO REVIEW THIS PROJECT.

OH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY SURPRISES OR ANYTHING DIFFERENT OR TO THE STAFF.

WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE HAVE BASICALLY EVERYTHING IN PLACE THERE WAS ONE THING THAT CAME UP.

COUNCILMAN WRIGHT APPROACHED ME EARLIER BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING.

HE SAID IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE GOING TO RESERVE SECTION FIVE FOR FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T SELL FOR COMMERCIAL, THEN WE'LL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP IT AND THE AGREEMENT SAYS FOR YEARS MISUNDERSTANDING.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND HOW IT OCCURRED.

I AGREE WITH THAT 100 PERCENT.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO CHANGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

JUST TAKE THE WORD FOR AND TAKE PUT FIVE IN, IT'S DONE.

THANK YOU MR. RAY.

AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

I'D BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE HEARD HOW GREAT THIS IS.

THANK YOU, MR. RAY.

JUST TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT THERE, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT FROM FOUR TO FIVE IN THE ORDINANCE, IF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, YOU SHOULD SAY SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THAT PROVISION IS CHANGED FOR FOUR TO FIVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WHILE YOU'RE UP MR. RAY AND JUST HELP ME OUT ON THIS.

THERE APPEARS TO BE A BARN SOMEWHERE IN PHASE FOUR THAT.

HOW IS THERE A EASEMENT? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU HOW ARE THEY GOING TO ACCESS THAT BARN? BECAUSE I SEE [INAUDIBLE] LITERALLY ALL AROUND LIKE AN ISLAND.

CORRECT.

THE LOOKS LIKE YOU GO THROUGH A BACKYARD OF SOMEBODY IN THE CUL-DE-SAC.

WELL, THERE IS RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO RECORDED EASEMENT, OK, BUT I BELIEVE THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT BY USE.

SURE.

YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY YOU CAN'T CUT SOMEBODY OFF GET TO THEIR HOUSE.

RIGHT.

AND I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.

WHAT WE WILL DO, THERE IS ROOM.

OK.

WHAT WE WILL DO IS SURVEY.

WE'LL GET WITH THEM AND SURVEY.

WHERE DO YOU WANT THIS ROAD TO GO? WE'LL SURVEY, WE'LL STAKE IT AND THEN WE'LL GIVE A DEED TO IT.

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OK.

AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO BUILD THE HOUSES AND GIVE THEM A ROAD.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO END UP SOME LITIGATION BOUT THAT HOUSES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR OWN HOME.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.

I MEAN, I REMEMBER SOME BASIC PROPERTY LAW FROM LAW SCHOOL, SO.

OK.

YEAH, I, FUNNY, WHEN I DISCUSS THIS WITH AN EARLIER MEETING AND I HADN'T LOOKED AT THE PLAT, BUT WHEN I SAT DOWN AND LOOKED AT IT, WHAT GOOD [INAUDIBLE].

BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM.

OK, [INAUDIBLE] HAVE DISCUSSED IT WITH SURVEYOR.

THANK YOU, MR. RAY.

WE ARE STILL IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON, FOR OR AGAINST.

SECOND TIME, THIRD TIME COUNCIL.

MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NOW WE'RE ON THE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION PORTION.

SO I'LL JUST JUMP IN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HOSPITALITY, MR. RAY.

YOU'VE BEEN VERY AMENABLE TO OUR DIALOG, IF YOU WILL.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS.

SO AND ALL THE DEVELOPERS REALLY HAVE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT.

AND I KNOW I'M PATTING YOU ON THE BACK WHEN YOU'RE HERE PRESENT, BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE COME BEFORE US, HAVE DONE HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW, THEY'VE STOOD THEIR GROUND, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE AT LEAST LISTEN TO US.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AMONGST THEIR COMMUNITY OF BUILDERS OR DEVELOPERS, BUT PUBLICLY TO OUR FACE, THEY'RE NOT CALLING US UGLY NAMES.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

I WILL SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE WHAT I BELIEVE WILL BE A THOROUGHFARE TYPE ROAD THAT WILL BE A GOOD EAST-WEST CORRIDOR TURN OFF AT SOME POINT TIME IN THE HISTORY OF ANGLETON, PROBABLY NOT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, BUT, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS OUT.

SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT THE IN THE LOT SIZES, JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, BUT THIS IS A PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

AND SO I WOULD I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CONTINUITY OF THE 60 FOOT LOT THAT'S BASICALLY THROUGHOUT TOWN FOLLOWED THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE GOT TO RUN YOUR NUMBERS AND MAKE IT WORK FOR Y'ALL.

SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE FOR ME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCIL WE'RE IN THE PORTION OF EITHER AN ACTION OR NO ACTION OR STILL DISCUSSION.

YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE TO BE AT LEAST FAIR MR. RAY HE GO TO THE PODIUM FOR A SECOND.

CAN YOU GO TO THE PODIUM FOR A SECOND? BECAUSE I DID GIVE MR. FOLEY A PRETTY HARD TIME ON HIS LOT SIZES.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT I ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTIONS.

YOU'VE YOU KNOW, WE WHEN YOU FIRST CAME TO US, YOU WANTED 45S.

WE WE SAID NO.

AND NOW YOU'RE AT 50, 55 AND 60.

AND NOW 40 PERCENT ARE 60.

AND PHASE TWO WAS PHASE TWO OR NO.

PHASE ONE IS 50S.

PHASE TWO IS 55.

AND 60S.

AND 60S NOW.

[INAUDIBLE] QUESTION THAT SECTION FIVE AND THE LOTS ADJACENT TO SECTION FIVE ALL BE 60S.

SO WE CHANGED THOSE TO 60X PURSUANT TO YOUR REQUEST.

OK, PAGE 62 OF THE BREAKDOWN, OH, IT'S IN THERE.

BUT YES, ROLL UP.

YOU'LL SEE THE CHART.

RIGHT.

OK, AND THEN SECTION THREE, PHASE THREE IS ALL 60S.

ALL 60S.

AND IN SECTION FOUR'S? COMBINATION OF 55S AND 60S.

YOU KNOW, SAME THING I ASKED MR. FOLEY.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE CHANGED AND YOU'VE YOU'VE CHANGED QUITE A FEW TIMES BECAUSE UNLIKE BEFORE, THIS PD IS ONE THAT I'M THINKING WE'RE TRYING TO WE HAVE A LOT MORE KNOWLEDGE

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GOING INTO THIS PD THAN WE HAVE IN ANY OF THE OTHER ONES WE'VE DONE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU FOR SO LONG ON THIS.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE QUESTIONS COME UP ON THE PHASES IN THE FUTURE.

WHY NOT ALL 60? WHY NOT ALL 60? YES, SIR.

THE BUILDER DOES NOT PERCEIVE THERE'S A MARKET FOR 60S AT THIS TIME.

ALSO, I LOOK AT IT, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE BUILDERS, THEY LIVE IN THE WORLD OF BUILDING THEM AND SELLING THEM SO THEY KNOW WHAT WHERE THE BUYERS ARE, WHAT THE BUYERS CAN AFFORD AND WHAT THE BUYERS WILL DO.

I MEAN, THE MONSTER I MEAN, THEY BUILT 70,000 HOMES A YEAR.

[INAUDIBLE] SO I RESPECT YOUR POSITION.

THEY SEE AND ALSO SEE THIS AS KIND OF PRIMING THE PUMP.

YEAH, I WHAT I ENVISION IS I ENVISION IF YOU STOPPED ALL 50S AND 55S AND WENT TO 60S, 70S AND 80S AND JUST STOPPED IT, IT WOULD ALL STOP.

THERE'S THERE'S NOT A MARKET FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

NOW, I BELIEVE THERE IS A MARKET FOR 50S AND I BELIEVE THAT AS TO ANGLETON GROWS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS OR LIKE THE LAST 10 YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF 55S AND 60S AND WE WILL HAVE MORE 60S AND THERE WILL BE A MARKET FOR IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST RIGHT NOW, TODAY, THE HOUSE IS 250,000 DOLLARS, THE AVERAGE INCOME FOR A HOUSE.

HOUSEHOLD INCOME FOR A HOUSE ON250 IS SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR INCOME.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD CREDIT AND NO DEBT.

I MEAN, YOU'RE YOU'RE DEALING WITH GOOD PEOPLE.

THE OTHER THING THAT I LIKE TO WHICH, I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL'S CONCERN ABOUT SMALL LOTS.

I DON'T THINK SMALL LOTS ARE THE ISSUE.

THE ISSUE IS WHAT PEOPLE SEE WHEN THEY DRIVE BY, THIS SUBDIVISION.

YOU DO NOT SEE THE 50 FOOT LOTS UNLESS YOU'RE GOING INTO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU EXIT 44, YOU COME UP AUSTIN COLONY BOULEVARD.

WHAT DO YOU SEE? [INAUDIBLE] SEE, LIKE I'VE SAID, A LIGHTED MONUMENT.

THIS PLAN, IT LOOKS NICE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A NICE PREMIUM FENCE.

IT'S GOT PLANTS AND SHRUBS.

YOU GOING TO SEE IT'S GOING TO BE IRRIGATED.

YOU'LL SEE LIGHTS.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE SMALL LOTS UNLESS YOU DRIVE INTO THE SUBDIVISION TO SEE SOMEBODY.

I THINK THAT'S FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN.

AND I DO THINK IF YOU DO HAVE NOTHING BUT 45S AND 50S AND NO AMENITIES, YEAH.

YOU'RE OPENING THE DOOR.

SO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK WE WILL SEE MORE HIGHER END VALUE COMING INTO ANGLETON.

BUT TODAY, THE BUILDER DIDN'T PERCEIVE IT'S THERE.

IS IT THERE? I DON'T KNOW.

HOW DO WE CHANGE THE BUILDERS PERCEPTION? OH YOU CAN'T.

YOU CAN'T.

NO COUNCIL CANNOT.

YOU CANNOT, WHAT ALL YOU CAN DO IS STOP.

YOU CAN STOP DEVELOPERS AND YOU CAN STOP BUILDERS BECAUSE THE BUILDER'S PERCEPTION IS BASED ON THE MARKET AND THE BUILDER DEALS WITH THE MARKET EVERY DAY, ALL DAY LONG.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE PRETTY NICE HOUSES.

I'M NOT PRETTY NICE.

THEY'RE REALLY NICE HOUSES.

MINIMUM HOUSE IS TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND.

THAT'S THE MINIMUM.

SO PRETTY NICE HOUSE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE AVERAGE WILL BE? THIS SUBDIVISION? OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS.

THREE.

THREE FIFTY.

I THINK YOU GETTING READY.

I THINK WE'RE I THINK WE'RE GETTING READY TO SEE ANGLETON GROW AT VERY HEALTHY AND A VERY GOOD PACE OVER THE NEXT IF THE NEXT 10 YEARS ARE LIKE THE LAST FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE FIRST TIME BUYERS.

THE FIRST SECTION IS GOING TO BE YOUR FIRST TIME BUYERS, GENERALLY YOUNGER KIDS.

THAT DIDN'T INCUR A LOT OF DEBT IN COLLEGE.

SO THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR A LOAN, HAVE A GOOD JOB, HAVE A YOUNG FAMILY, AND THEN THEY'LL BE FIRST TIME MOVES UP IN THE BACKER SECTION.

THAT IT JOHN? KIND OF SORT OF.

I MEAN, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND HAS MENTIONED.

YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HOLDING TO 60S AND PLUS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MR. RAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN VERY FRANK AND HONEST WITH ME AND I'VE TALKED TO

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YOU QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS.

YOU'VE CHANGED AND CHANGED AND CHANGED THESE PLANS OVER AND OVER FOR US.

THE THE BIG SELLING POINT TO ME HAS IS TWO THINGS.

AND I LAUGHED THE OTHER DAY WHEN I WATCHED THE P&Z WHEN WALTER STOOD UP AND SAID THERE WAS A COUNCILMAN THAT INSISTED ON SECTION FIVE BEING COMMERCIAL.

I WAS LIKE, JUST GO AHEAD AND GIVE ME CREDIT WALTER [LAUGHTER] THROW ME UNDER THE BUS IF YOU WANTED TO, BECAUSE I STILL BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY THERE.

IT IS CONTINGENT ON THAT ROAD BEING FINISHED.

BUT FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN, HAVING CANNAN [INAUDIBLE] GO ALL THE WAY TO COUNTY ROAD 44 IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

THE FACT THAT WILKINS AND HENDERSON ARE VERY DANGEROUS ROADS AND CARRY A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING WESTBOUND IS NOT THE LONG TERM SOLUTION.

IT NEVER HAS BEEN.

WE ALWAYS SAID WE WERE GOING TO PUSH THIS THROUGH AND BETH YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE SAT ON THE MOBILITY, THE ROAD GROUP, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND WE SAID, OH, WELL, ONE DAY SOME WILL HAVE JUST A DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THAT THROUGH AND HERE WE ARE.

AND THAT'S.

THEY NEED THE COUNTRY.

LOOK OUT THERE BETH.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY THIS IS WHY WE HAD TO DO THIS, WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT AND I WANT TO SAY WE HAD TO DO THIS WAS WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT CANNAN [INAUDIBLE] FLOWED ACROSS WESTBOUND, NOT STOPPING AND GOING DOWN, THAT IT HAS TO GO ACROSS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S EXPENSIVE.

AND I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT ALREADY HOW EXPENSIVE THIS ROAD IS, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU CHANGING YOUR LOT SIZES QUITE A BIT.

NOTHING LESS THAN FIFTY AND THE FIFTIES ARE ON THE FAR SOUTH SIDE IN PHASE ONE.

AND THEN IT MOVES UP AND GOES 55, 60.

AND I.

I DO WANT THE FIVE YEARS ON THE COMMERCIAL AREA.

[INAUDIBLE] THERE'S ONLY ONE HUNDRED FIFTY FOOT LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION TOTAL.

AND ZERO 45S.

ZERO.

YEAH, WE WHEN I.

WHEN I VISITED WITH THE STAFF A YEAR AGO, THEY WERE REAL CLEAR.

THERE'S NO 45S, BUT WE COULD DO 50S.

SO WE WE ALWAYS APPLIED FOR 50S.

SO PROBABLY NOT PARTICULARLY RELEVANT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US NOT CALL IT [INAUDIBLE] STREET.

I KNOW THAT PROBABLY GOING TO RUFFLE FEATHERS.

I LIKE IT TO BE MADE ONE COMMON NAME.

IT'S CANNAN.

IT'S ALREADY [INAUDIBLE] IN FRONT OF WAL-MART.

IS IT? YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE.

ONE SIDE OF THE STREETS ONE NAME I MEAN, CAN WE NOT JUST HAVE ONE STREET NAME THROUGH TOWN.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS DEEDED WHENEVER IT WAS SOLD.

WELL, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK.

I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT BECAUSE I JUST ALWAYS STRIKES ME AS ODD.

WE'RE GOING TO A THOROUGHFARE THROUGH TOWN, THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE SPLIT NAMES, BUT OK WHATEVER, NOT GOING TO FIGHT OVER THAT.

JUST ALWAYS BEEN A PET PEEVE OF MINE.

WHEN YOU TURN LEFT ONE, IT'S ONE WAY AND YOU TURN RIGHT IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY.

CANNAN.

AT LEAST FOR US LOCALS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SOUNDS LIKE THE GUN THAT YOU SHOOT.

YEAH.

YEAH I AGREE WAY IT'S SPELLED VERSUS WAY IT'S PRONOUNCED.

I AGREE.

GOOD POINT.

[INAUDIBLE] THIRD GUY FROM YOUR LEFT ON YOUR LEFT.

ANYWAY, I KNOW THAT'S A SMALL POINT, NOTHING TO GET HUNG UP OVER BUT I WOULD LOVE TO LIKE HAVE.

THERE BEEN OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN HUNG UP OVER IT TRAVIS.

WALTER, WHERE IN THE EXHIBIT IN THE CONTRACT DOES IT SHOW THE FOUR YEARS? I'M TRYING TO FIND IT SO I CAN MAKE MY MOTION WITH THE CHANGE? IT'S GOING TO BE IN EXHIBIT.

I THINK IT'S A.

A? SECTION I WANT TO SAY FIVE OR NUMBER FIVE IN THERE.

IT'S NOT IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF LINES SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE, RETAIL AREA.

IT [INAUDIBLE] IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT THAT ISN'T EVEN IN THERE.

ROBIN, DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S AT? OK, I DON'T THINK I REMEMBER SEEING IT IN THERE, JOHN, WHEN I SKIMMED IT, THEN I'LL JUST PUT IT IN THE WORDS OF MY MOTION.

AS LONG AS IT GETS INCORPORATED.

YEAH.

MR.

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MAYOR, I MOVE, WE ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210810-008, REZONING APPROXIMATE ONE HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR POINT FIVE ACRES OF THE LAND IN THE J.DE J VALDERAS SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 380 FROM AG DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH THE FOLLOWING UPDATE THAT THE SECTION FIVE OF THE PD.

YES, SECTION FIVE IS TO REMAIN COMMERCIAL FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF THE.

THE FIRST PHASE BEING STARTED.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET A UNIFORM START DATE BECAUSE THEY'LL START RUNNING THE CLOCK RIGHT NOW THE FIRST HOUSE OF PHASE ONE.

YES.

YOU JUST PICK THE DATE THAT THE FIRST SECTION.

PICK THE DATE OF THE FIRST SECTION IS PLATTED.

WHATEVER PLATTING DATE IS THAT STARTS THE CLOCK.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

THAT'S IN MY MOTION.

I DON'T HEAR WHAT SHE SAID.

I JUST SAY STARTED CONSTRUCTION.

[INAUDIBLE] OK.

I MEAN I'LL DO WHATEVER, I'M JUST YOU, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO WANT A DESIGNATED STARTING DATE.

YES.

I SAID THE START OF THE FIRST HOUSE, A PHASE OF SECTION ONE.

BUT IF WE WANT TO SAY THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF PHASE ONE, THAT'S ACTUALLY EARLIER.

SO.

NOT MY MOTION.

YOUR MOTION [INAUDIBLE].

2027.

YEAH.

ALL OF TWENTY SIX.

EARLIEST DATE, JANUARY 1ST, 2027.

MOTION, YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT, FRANCES? OK.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES.

THE ONLY THING OTHER THING IS IT'S REALLY CONTINGENT ON THE CITY AT THIS POINT TO GET WITH THE LANDOWNER OFF COUNTY ROAD 44 AND START DISCUSSIONS OF THAT SWAP BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ON THE CLOCK AND THAT WILL NOT DEVELOP COMMERCIAL UNLESS WE GET THAT ROAD ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO COUNTY ROAD 44.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE AT SOME POINT.

THAT ROAD TO CONTINUE THROUGH TO FORTY FOUR.

YES, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THIS MYSELF HERE, IS THAT EVEN FEASIBLE [INAUDIBLE]? IT IS.

WE NEED THIS LITTLE PIECE RIGHT THERE.

ACTUALLY, IT'S A LITTLE LONGER.

IT HAS [INAUDIBLE].

OK.

ALL RIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OK, HEARING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIDE.

AYE.

WE HAVE ONE ONE NO, THAT MOTION DOES CARRY.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

THANK YOU, MR. RAY.

NUMBER NINE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210810-009, ADOPTING A

[9. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210810- 009 adopting a consolidated schedule of fees reflecting those fees contained in the Code of Ordinances of the City of Angleton, Texas; providing for repeal; providing for penalty; providing for severability; providing for an effective date.]

CONSOLIDATED SCHEDULE OF FEES, REFLECTING THOSE FEES CONTAINED IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS.

PROVIDING FOR REPEAL, PROVIDING FOR PENALTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MS. LINDSAY.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU GUYS LAST MONTH AND WITH COUNCIL'S INSTRUCTION, WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK UNDER A PUBLIC HEARING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO ADOPT THIS.

IT IS A CONSOLIDATED FEE SCHEDULE, COMPREHENSIVE ALL OF THE FEES THAT THE CITY CHARGES BROKEN UP BY CHAPTER IN THE ORDINANCE.

PRESENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE IN PLACE.

SO WHAT WE HAVE IS OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE.

AND IT IS DIFFICULT FOR USERS WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT TO NAVIGATE AND DRILL DOWN TO FIND THE FEES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

IF THEY WANT TO HAVE CHICKENS OR IF THEY WANT TO GET INTO DEVELOPMENT AND

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KNOW ON THE FRONT SIDE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS AN INVESTMENT.

SO THIS HAS BEEN CREATED TO ASSIST PEOPLE IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE FEE SCHEDULE IS, HOW THE FEES ARE CHARGED.

THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FEES.

AND THIS IS JUST PRETTY MUCH ONE DEPOSITORY OF INFORMATION THAT HELPS COMMUNICATE THAT TO USERS OF THAT INFORMATION.

RANDALL LAW HAS DRAFTED AN ORDINANCE THAT IS THIRTY PLUS PAGES THAT IS COMPREHENSIVE OF ALL CHANGES SO WITH THAT MAYOR? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND JUST TO JUST TO LET COUNCIL KNOW, WE HAVE MS. MEGAN HERE TONIGHT.

I SHOULD HAVE INTRODUCED YOU AT THE BEGINNING.

SHE'S FILLING IN FOR MS. JUDITH.

AND MS. MEGAN IS THE ONE WHO ALSO WORKED ON THIS INTIMATELY WITH THIS DOCUMENT.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK HER AS WELL.

SO, GUYS, WE NEED TO GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYBODY WILL.

MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPSE SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE PROPOSED FEE SCHEDULE FOR OUR PERMITS.

IT IS PRETTY INCLUSIVE IF YOU DIDN'T THUMB THROUGH OR LOOK THROUGH IT, THINK IT TOUCHED EVERYTHING FROM ALMOST CHANGING YOUR COMMODE OUT AT HOME.

CALLING ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES, NOBODY COMING TO THE PODIUM.

COUNCIL? MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

SO NOW WE'RE ON THE ITEM OF DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THIS ORDINANCE.

I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210810-009.

THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE SCHEDULE OF FEES.

SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES.

GO AHEAD SIR.

I HAD ASKED FOR THIS TO BE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AND ALSO I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON FACEBOOK OR SOMETHING, BUT I SEE THAT WE DIDN'T ADVERTISE ANYTHING ON THIS.

AM I MISSING SOMETHING? BECAUSE I JUST WENT BACK THROUGH I DON'T SEE ANY POST ABOUT THE FEE SCHEDULE BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT IT AND WE NEVER.

SO WE POSTED ORIGINALLY AS A TOWN HALL.

I DON'T SEE ANY POSTS FOR THE TOWN HALL, THOUGH.

FOR SURE WE DID.

I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT POST WAS MADE.

I KNOW THAT WE DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION INITIALLY YOU HAD STATED YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE A TOWN HALL PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AS THIS IS A CHANGE TO AN ORDINANCE.

SO I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T POST ON THE CITY'S BEHALF, BUT I KNOW THAT WE DID HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

SO THAT'S MY FAULT.

SOMEWHERE.

I SAW IT AND I CAN'T IMAGINE WHERE I SAW ALL THE NUMBERS WITHOUT IT BEING ON FACEBOOK YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE THANK YOU BETH, BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD POSTED IT ON THE CITY'S NEWS ON THE WEBSITE WHERE THERE'S THE LINK FOR NEWS.

THAT'S TYPICALLY IF WE'RE GOING HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL FIND IT.

BUT BEING THAT, WE DON'T HAVE A TOWN HALL AND IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN REMOVED BUT I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT.

OK, SO, JOHN, YOU WERE ENVISIONING JUST A SEPARATE STAND ALONE.

NO, ACTUALLY, I WAS UP HERE LAST WEEK AND BOTH FRANCIS AND LINDSAY ASKED ME AND I SAID, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A TOWN HALL OR IF IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNCIL MEETING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE WORD OUT AND PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WAS CHANGING.

AND I MEAN, MOST OF THIS IS ALL JUST AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S TAKING THINGS FROM THAT.

NONE OF THE FEES CHANGE.

IT'S JUST TAKING ALL OF IT AND PUTTING IT INTO ONE ORDINANCE.

CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT THE ONE THING WE HEAR ABOUT ALL THE TIME, AND I THINK WE EVEN SAW IT LAST WEEK, WAS WHY IS THE CITY CHARGING ME A DISCONNECT FEE OF THIS OR A LATE FEE OF THIS? AND SO THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS THERE.

AND THE PRIOR, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, PEOPLE WERE ASKING ABOUT WHY DO I HAVE? AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

WAS THE GARAGE SALE PERMIT AND WHY DO I HAVE THAT? AND SO I MY ENVISIONING OF THIS WAS THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE TO

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SPEAK UP.

IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, COME AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK ABOUT THE FEE AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

BUT I THINK WHETHER WE DO IT NOW OR LATER, PLEASE GET THAT POSTED SOMEWHERE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT.

AND BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO GET US IS THE MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE FEES.

SO THIS WILL BE IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S CODIFIED, IF IT WILL HAVE ITS OWN LINK.

AND THEN THERE'S THE DOCUMENT.

THAT'S HOW MOST CITIES DO IT.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THINK BETWEEN LEGAL COUNSEL AND STAFF HAS ENVISIONED KIND OF SHOW IT HOW OTHER CITIES PRESENT IT.

AND THAT'S AGAIN, WITH THE LINK OVER IN ITS OWN ARTICLE OR APPENDIX OR SOMETHING.

AND I'LL ADD TO THAT, WE'VE HAD IT ON THE WEBSITE TWO TIMES NOW WITH OUR AGENDAS.

WE'VE HAD IT POSTED TWO TIMES ON THE BULLETIN BOARD.

AND LIKE BETH SAID EARLIER, I THINK WE DO HAVE IT ON THE WEBSITE SOMEWHERE.

SO WE HAVE NOTIFIED RESIDENTS OF THIS ORDINANCE.

[INAUDIBLE] OUR WEBSITE AS A STANDALONE TAB THAT SOMEBODY GO PERMITS, COST BOOM AND THEY'RE THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

YES.

NOW THAT IS MY DEPARTMENT.

SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

AS LONG AS YOU GUYS ADOPT IT.

LIKE YOU'RE RIGHT.

PEOPLE CALL ME AND SAY, WHAT'S IT COST TO DO A GARAGE SALE? I JUST KNOW IT'S FIVE DOLLARS, RIGHT.

TWO.

TWO.

IT'S TWO BUT I THOUGHT, GO GET ONE.

I'LL MAKE SURE THEY DO THAT.

BUT YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

JUST EASY ACCESS.

PERFECT.

OK, THANKS, JOHN.

ANYTHING ELSE? MR. MAYOR? YES.

SO THE PURPOSE WAS, JUST LIKE Y'ALL ARTICULATED, WAS REALLY TO CONSOLIDATE, TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS, PUBLIC, ANYONE THAT WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, PERUSE WHAT OUR FEES ARE, WE WANT TO DO THAT FIRST SO THAT WE HAD IT ALL IN ONE PLACE AND IT'S EASIER TO VIEW.

AND SO SUBSEQUENT THING WOULD BE DO A WORKSHOP, BECAUSE THERE'S THINGS ON THERE, LIKE A SQUARE DANCE PERMIT THAT'S FROM 1965.

AND AND SO THOSE THINGS NEED TO GO AWAY OR THEY NEED TO GET UPDATED OR WE DECIDE.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT A FUTURE TIME WE DO A WORKSHOP AND THEN INVITE THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND SAY, HERE'S ALL THE FEES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

IF YOU WANT TO TELL US GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT WHAT YOU WANT TO PAY, OR WE CAN EXPLAIN WHY YOU HAVE TO PAY IT OR WHATEVER, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THOSE SORT OF SWEEPING CHANGES AND GET RID OF SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S OUTDATED OR UPDATE THINGS THAT NEED TO GET UPDATED.

OK, SOUNDS GOOD.

OK, ANY MORE DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE THERE FOR THE VOTE.

OK.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 10 UPDATE ON TXDOT PROJECTS.

[10. Update on TxDot projects.]

HI THERE, COME ON UP.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME.

MY NAME IS MARIA [INAUDIBLE].

I AM THE TXDOT [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEER.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

HOWEVER, I'VE BEEN WITH TXDOT FOR OVER 15 YEARS, WORKING IN OTHER SECTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO MEET OUR PARTNERS.

WE WORK CONTINUOUSLY WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE EACH OTHER.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN HIDDEN BEHIND A CAMERA FOR MORE THAN A YEAR AND I'M GLAD TO BE OUT HERE AND SEEING YOU ALL IN PERSON.

BEFORE I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROJECTS, I WANT TO TAKE A SAFETY MOMENT AND TALK ABOUT INDUSTRY.

SINCE NOVEMBER THE YEAR 2000, WE HAVEN'T HAVE A DAY IN TEXAS, IN TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY WITHOUT A DEATH, WITHOUT A FATALITY IN OUR ROADWAYS.

AND WE WANT THAT TO STOP.

WE WANT TO HAVE ONE DAY AND THEN THE FOLLOWING DAY AND THEN CONTINUE SO ON, IT CAN BE DONE.

BUT IT DEPENDS ON ALL OF US DOING OUR PART.

SO I WANT TO SHARE A SAFETY PRACTICE, IS TXDOT POLICY FOR OUR STATE VEHICLE TO HAVE HEAD LIGHTS ON ALL THE TIME.

SO OTHERS CAN SEE US.

HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY THAT WHEN IT IS RAINING, IF YOU ARE USING YOUR WIPER BLADES, TURN THE HEAD LIGHTS ON AS WELL SO OTHERS CAN SEE.

SO IF A IT'S UP TO YOU, IF YOU USE IT, BUT IT CAN MAKE CAN MAKE US GET SAFER TO OUR

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HOUSES AND GO AND DO THE THINGS WE LIKE TO DO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO STOP IN AN ACCIDENT OR WORSE, LOSING OUR LIVES OR SOMEONE WE LOVE LOSING THEIR LIVES.

TAKE THIS MOMENT.

SO IF IT'S RAINING, I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TURN THEIR HEAD LIGHTS ON SO OTHERS CAN SEE YOU.

WITH THAT.

WHEN I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW TXDOT DIVIDE US.

SO AS YOU KNOW, TXDOT'S A STATE AGENCY THAT WORKED ON PLANNING, DESIGN, BUILDING AND MAINTAINING THE TEXAS ROADWAY SYSTEM, WE ARE DIVIDED IN THE STATE IN TWENTY FIVE DISTRICTS.

WE ARE IN THE HOUSTON DISTRICT, WHICH COVERS SEVERAL COUNTIES INCLUDING MONTGOMERY, [INAUDIBLE], GALVESTON, HARRIS COUNTY AND BRAZORIA COUNTY, WHERE WE ARE.

IN ORDER TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE AREA OFFICES.

EACH COUNTY HAVE THEIR AREA OFFICE.

HARRIS COUNTY, HAVE THREE AREA OFFICES BECAUSE OF THE ROADWAYS AND THE NUMBER OF INHABITANTS.

AND WE ARE IN THE BRAZORIA COUNTY.

WE HAVE THE BRAZORIA AREA OFFICE, WHICH WE HAVE DESIGN, MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION.

AND OVER THERE I AM THE THE AREA ENGINEER.

I HAVE A GREAT MAINTENANCE SECTION.

WE HAVE A VERY GOOD DESIGN TEAM AND WE HAVE A GOOD CONSTRUCTION TEAM THAT WE HAVE REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE, INSPECTOR, THAT WE'RE LOSING.

BUT WE'RE GETTING SOME NEW EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE TRAINING THEM.

SO TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE JUST MOVED LAST YEAR.

WE ARE ON FM 523 ON THE EAST SIDE OF STATE HIGHWAY 288.

18671 FM 523.

AND OUR PHONE NUMBER IS (979)864-8500.

FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO US.

AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE OUR PHONE NUMBER OR THEY CALL OUR MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR DIRECTLY, BUT WE'RE HERE TO SERVE.

WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS AROUND THIS AREA RIGHT NOW.

I'M GOING TO START WITH ONE OF THE CLOSEST ONE.

WE HAVE WHAT IT'S CALLED THE BRAZORIA COUNTY BIKE ROUTE.

YOU SEE ON FM 523 GOING ON 521, 332, 2004 GOING BACK TO 525.

WE ARE ENHANCING THE INTERSECTION SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE BICYCLE, CYCLING IS SOME USE IT AS A COMMUTER.

SO I'M USING IT AS A FORM OF EXERCISE, AS AN ENTERTAINMENT.

SO WE WANT TO PROVIDE ALSO SAFE ACCESS FOR CYCLISTS.

SO THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN, IF NOT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, EARLY NEXT MONTH.

WE'RE WAITING ON SOME SIGNAL INSPECTIONS, BUT YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS ALONG THIS LOOP THAT I MENTIONED AND ALSO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ALVIN THAT WE HAVE IMPROVED OUR FACILITIES TO ACCOMMODATE CYCLISTS.

WE ARE ALSO DOING THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT TWO TWO POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS.

WE ALSO STARTED ABOUT LAST WEEK, ONE PROJECT ON STATE HIGHWAY 288.

MAYBE SOME OF YOU HAVE LIVED THROUGH SOME OF OUR CLOSURE.

I DRIVE THROUGH IT EVERY DAY.

I INSPECT IT EVERY DAY IN THE MORNINGS AND IN THE EVENING, I KNOW WE HAVE OUR PROJECTS SOMETIMES ARE AN INCONVENIENCE, THAT'S PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

HOWEVER, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS PROJECT, WE ARE REHABILITATING, REHABILITATING OUR PAVEMENT.

SO WE ARE [INAUDIBLE] AND OVERLAYING.

AND THE FINAL LAYER IS GOING TO HAVE WHAT WE CALL THESE IS CALLED A BFC, WHICH ALLOW WATER TO DRAIN.

SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON 288, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SPLASH BACK FROM OTHER VEHICLES.

THE WATER CAN DRAIN EASIER.

AND SO THAT PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO LAST ABOUT EIGHT MONTH.

HOWEVER, THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING SO FAST.

SO I CAN TELL YOU, CROSSING FINGERS, [INAUDIBLE] THAT IT SHOULD BE COMPLETED MUCH EARLIER THAN THAT.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE WORKING EXTENDED HOURS.

SO WE SEE A LOT OF PROGRESS, EVEN THOUGH THEY STARTED LAST WEEK.

ACTUALLY, IF YOU'RE DRIVING 288, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME PROGRESS AFTER YOU PASSED THE 15 MINUTES OF STOPPING TRAFFIC.

THINGS START FLOWING MUCH BETTER.

THAT IS A NINE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT.

ALSO, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT STATE HIGHWAY 35.

WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT GOES ALL THE WAY FROM STATE HIGHWAY 288 INTO WEST COLUMBIA, PASSING TO THE SAN BRUNO RIVER.

AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND PROJECT THAT GOES FROM [INAUDIBLE] TO THE MATAGORDA COUNTY LINE.

WE ARE ALSO REHABILITATING, PAVING.

THAT PROJECT IS ALMOST THE PORTION OF THE [INAUDIBLE] RIVER IS ALMOST COMPLETED.

WE'RE JUST FINISHING SOME METAL BEING [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S A TEN MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.

THE PROJECT THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE COUNTY LINE IS IN THE EARLY STAGES.

WE ARE DOING SOME BASE REPAIRS BEFORE WE PUT OUR OVERLAY.

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WE ALSO HAVE A PROJECT ON FM 2004.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO PROJECTS ON FM 2004, ONE IS FROM BUSINESS 288 TO FM 523, THAT ONE WE ARE JUST OVERLAYING LIKE RESURFACING THE PAVEMENT, BUT THE PORTION FROM 523 ALL THE WAY TO THE GALVESTON COUNTY LINE, WE ARE ADDING SHOULDERS AND WHAT WE CALL A SUPER TWO WHICH WE ARE PASSING LANES.

WE ARE ALSO WIDENING FIVE OF THE BRIDGES.

WE ARE NOT WIDENING THE [INAUDIBLE] BRIDGE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE ITS OWN PROJECT, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY REPLACE THAT BRIDGE.

THAT PROJECT IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY OF 2026.

HOWEVER, TXDOT AND OTHER PARTNERS IN THE AREA.

WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE THAT PROJECT AS CLOSE TO THE PROJECT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AS POSSIBLE.

SO WE ARE WORKING ALREADY AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE OF WHAT WE CAN DO, COMMUNICATING WITH THE COUNTY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S A BOAT RAMP IN THE AREA THAT MIGHT BE IMPACTED DURING CONSTRUCTION OR THAT MIGHT HAVE TO BE RELOCATED BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT.

BUT THAT'S A BIG PROJECT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT FM 2004 IS ALSO BEING WIDENED IN THE GALVESTON COUNTY, SO THAT'S GONNA BE MAJOR ROADWAY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF, WELL, IN THE EASTERN SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND GOING TOWARD GALVESTON.

SO THOSE ARE THE BIGGER PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THIS AREA.

IN ADDITION, WE ARE ALSO WE ALSO HAVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF OUR COUNTY, THE STATE HIGHWAY 36 CORRIDOR IS ANOTHER OF OUR EVACUATION ROUTES AND WE ARE COMPLETELY WIDENING AND RECONSTRUCTING ROADWAY.

THE PROJECT HAS SEVERAL SEGMENTS.

THERE ARE ALREADY TWO SEGMENTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY.

THERE'S ONE SEGMENT UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN BRAZORIA COUNTY THAT WE'RE MANAGING FROM THE COUNTY LINE TO JUST NORTH OF STATE HIGHWAY 35 IN WEST COLUMBIA.

AND WE JUST LET LAST WEEK TWO MORE SEGMENTS OF 36, THE PORTION THAT GOES FROM SOUTH OF BRAZORIA TO NORTH TO SOUTH OF JONES CREEK AND THE PORTION THAT [INAUDIBLE] TO FREEPORT.

THERE'S ANOTHER SEGMENT THAT GOES FROM 35 TO STATE HIGHWAY 332 THAT IS SCHEDULED TO LAND IN JANUARY 2022.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECT COMING FOR THIS AREA.

AGAIN, LIKE YOU'VE BEEN TALKING, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH IN OUR COUNTY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING AND ALSO WE PROVIDE SAFE ACCESS FOR EVACUATION IF IS NEEDED.

RIGHT.

IN ADDITION, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING THESE NEXT FISCAL YEAR IN TXDOT.

WE END OUR FISCAL YEAR AT THE END OF AUGUST, WE START OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR IN SEPTEMBER AND WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE IN ANGLETON.

ONE IS BUSINESS 288 FROM FM 523 ALL THE WAY TO FM 2004, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MILLING AND OVERLAYING THE ROADWAY.

AND WE HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY IN COMMUNICATION WITH MR. WHITTAKER AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE ADDING ANY.

THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT THE INTERSECTION OF BUSINESS 288 AND CANNAN.

THAT'S GREAT NEWS.

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDING A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.

WE SAVE [INAUDIBLE].

GOOD.

THAT IS LONG OVERDUE.

THANK YOU.

AND WE WILL BE TYING INTO THAT SIDEWALK THAT IS NEXT TO THAT KROGER SHOPPING DISTRICT.

IN ADDITION, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE DOING SOME OVERLAY ON STATE HIGHWAY 35 FROM BUSINESS 288 TO STATE HIGHWAY 288.

I, STATE HIGHWAY 35 HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, MULBERRY AND ALREADY THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.

I AM NOT AWARE OF IT.

THAT'S GOOD.

BUT BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I HAVE SEVERAL OF MY EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN IN THE OFFICE FOR A LONG TIME.

I CAN FIGURE IT OUT AND I CAN CHECK [INAUDIBLE] STREET AS WELL AND FIND OUT INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, HOW THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED BEFORE THAT THEY HAVE CHECKED WITH OUR MPO.

SO HOUSTON HAVE A UTP UNIFORM TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

WE SUBMIT THEY ARE 10 YEAR PLANS AND WE OF COURSE, WE WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR MPO, THEY ARE THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL AND THEY APPROVE AND WORK TOGETHER TO PLAN ALL THE PROJECT IF IT IS NOT IN THAT LIST IT WILL NOT HAPPEN IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

RIGHT.

IT WAS OVER 10 YEARS AGO WHEN I DID THAT.

SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WAS PLANNED AT ONE TIME.

AND HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR ADVANCE PLANNING SECTION IN THE HOUSTON D STREET, IF

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THERE'S ANY CHANGE THAT IS COMING, THEY REACH OUT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

THEY HAVE MEETINGS, MEETINGS.

THEY THEY LISTEN TO THE PROS AND CONS.

AND IT'S NOT ONLY TXDOT WHO DECIDE ON HOW TO SPEND THE FUNDING.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE MPO AND AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL.

THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS I AM BRINGING BECAUSE THEY'RE CLOSER TO US AND I KNOW WE HAVE LIMITED TIME, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION OF ANY OTHER PROJECT, I'LL BE HAPPY.

WE GOT LOTS.

YES.

SO WE'VE NOTICED THAT YOU PUT UP SOME NEW STREET SIGNS ON 288.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? PROGRESS ON THAT? SO, YES, WE HAVE BEEN ORDERING SEVERAL SIGNS TO BE REPLACED.

WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNS THAT WE HAVE ORDER.

ONE, AS SOON AS WE GIVE RECEIVING THEM, WE WILL KEEP INSTALLING THEM.

HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE UNTIL SEPTEMBER THAT WE RECEIVE THE NEXT ROUND OF OF SIGNS BECAUSE IT'S THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

OK, MAYBE THIS QUESTION YOU SAID YOU WERE NOT AWARE ANYWAY.

ANY IDEA OF EXPANDING STATE HIGHWAY 35 FROM ANGLETON TO [INAUDIBLE]? SO WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME SUPER TWOS AGAIN.

GOOD.

WHICH ARE PASSING LANES.

YES.

AND ACTUALLY.

BECAUSE I'LL JUST THAT'S A REALLY DEADLY ROAD.

YES.

IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.

VERY DANGEROUS.

SO A LOT OF CROSSOVER HEAD-ONS FROM THAT.

I KNOW WE HAVE.

AREA AND I KNOW IT COSTS MONEY AND TIME AND ALL THAT.

BUT TO BE SURE, NICE TO YOU TO HAVE A DIVIDED MEDIAN OR PROTECTED MEDIAN OR SOMETHING.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE ABILITY TO PASS WOULD BE GREAT TOO, IN A CASE OF AN EMERGENCY BEING GOOD ACCESS POINT TO GO OUT OF [INAUDIBLE].

BUT.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME PRETTY I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE IS THE SCHEDULE, BECAUSE IT IS A SCHEDULE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

I ONLY BROUGHT THE LIST FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BUT I HAVE A LIST HERE WITH THAT IS VERY SMALL THAT I'M GOING TO TRY TO FIND THAT STATE HIGHWAY 35.

AND [INAUDIBLE].

STATE HIGHWAY 35 FROM FM 2403 TO FM 523 WIDEN SHOULDERS AT ONE EACH LEVEL UP, INSTALL SUPER TWOS WHICH ARE THE PASSING LANE.

AND THAT PROJECT, IT IS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER OF 2022.

SO THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 2023.

NICE.

IT IS CURRENTLY IN EARLY DESIGN.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OTHER PROJECT? OK, SO CHRIS GETS PROBABLY ANNOYED WITH ME ON A DAILY BASIS OF MY COMPLAINTS OF THE LIGHT TIMING, YOU KNOW, THE THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IS THE LIGHTS.

ALMOST EVERY LIGHT IN THIS TOWN IS OWNED BY TXDOT EXCEPT FOR TWO.

SO MOST CITIZENS COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR LOTS AND ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM IS A TXDOT CONTROLLED LIGHT.

THE THE ISSUE THAT WE'VE HAD IS, YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU ON 35, A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS IS BETWEEN THE WEST SIDE ELEMENTARY.

SOME REASON THAT LIGHT GETS OFF ALL THE TIME AND SOMETIMES IT WILL ONLY BE GREEN FOR LESS THAN 20 SECONDS BECAUSE I TIMED IT ONE DAY.

AND AND THEN THE OTHER COMPLAINT IS CITIZENS WANT TIMED LIGHTS TO THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.

IS THERE A WAY TO GET A PROJECT THAT WOULD SEQUENCE THE LIGHTS TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN FLOW THROUGH WITHOUT IT, BOTH ON THE BUSINESS 288 AND THEN LOOP 274? AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT.

RIGHT.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, TOO, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE LIKE DOWN 288, YOU KNOW, A GREEN AND A FLASHING RED ON THE SIDE ROADS SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO YOU KNOW, THEY JUST LOOK BOTH WAYS.

AND KNOW IT'S CLEAR BEFORE THEY MOVE OUT.

SO ACTUALLY, THE TIMING NEAR THE SCHOOL OUT ON 35.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME.

I SEND IT TO OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER SECTION.

THEY SEND THEIR CONSULTANTS TO LOOK AT IT.

SO I WILL FOLLOW UP.

I THOUGHT THEY HAD ADJUSTED RECENTLY, BUT IF THEY HAVE NOT.

I WILL FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE.

THEY DID RECENTLY.

BUT IT STAYED LIKE THAT FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

AND THEN IT SWITCHED BACK.

AND NOW IT'S FIXED.

THEY WENT OUT RECENTLY AND FIXED IT, I GUESS IN THE LAST MONTH.

AND I KEPT SAYING CHRIS IS.

YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE JOHN.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

THE OTHER THE OTHER AREA, I THINK WHERE WE REALLY USE TXDOT HELP IS THE

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BEAUTIFICATION OF DOWNTOWN AND SOME PROJECTS, ALONG WITH FINDING WAYS TO FUND IT OR HOW TO FIX.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS THERE WITH [INAUDIBLE] BURYING THE POWER.

IF THERE'S A WAY TO WORK BETWEEN THE LIGHT COMPANY AND TXDOT TO BURY THE POWER LINES SO THAT THEY'RE NOT.

THERE'S AN AREA, I GUESS, WHAT IS IT, MYRTLE OR CEDAR AND AND TO BE HERE WHERE THE POWER POLE IS RIGHT BY THE TURN LANE AND PEOPLE.

LAKE EAST CORNER.

YES.

WHAT'S THE CORNER? CEDAR.

CEDAR AND BUSINESS 288.

THAT POLL'S BEEN TAGGED BY MANY A PEOPLE.

NORTHEAST QUARTER.

AND IT'S JUST REALLY IF WE COULD BURY SOME OF THESE LINES AND GET THESE POLLS OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING AND IT'S JUST IT'S RIGHT OF WAY IS WHAT IT IS.

JUST IT'S AN OLD PART OF TOWN.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, BEAUTIFICATION ALONG, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS AND EVEN JUST FIXING THE STREET SIGNS REGULARLY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT FADED OUT AND PEOPLE CAN SEE THE SIGNS.

AND THEN LIGHTING, OF COURSE, IS ALWAYS A BIG THING ON THE STATE HIGHWAYS.

AND I DO HAVE I'LL BE REMISS IF I DON'T SAY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN ALWAYS COMPLAINS TO ME ABOUT THIS AND SAFE PASSAGES FOR THE HANDICAPPED TO GET ACROSS.

THAT IS A BIG THING FOR US RIGHT NOW.

AND SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT CANNAN.

SO SO YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL THINGS.

SO ON THE LIGHTING TIMING.

I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO OUR TRAFFIC SECTION OF [INAUDIBLE] TO SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO DO TO SEQUENCE THEM OR MAYBE CHANGE THE TYPE OF SYSTEM WE HAVE.

AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE AND WHAT WILL BE A TIME LINE.

ON UTILITIES POLE I'M GOING TO GO WITH MY TEAM OF ENGINEERS AND LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES AND THE LOCATION AND THE VARIOUS POLLS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

WITH THE PEDESTRIAN RAMPS.

ACTUALLY, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH CHRIS AND HIS TEAM AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES ALSO TO ADDRESS THOSE.

WE IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

HOW THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS MAY NOT BE THE OPTIMAL ONE.

SO WE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE PROJECT WE HAVE LETTING IN APRIL, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MILLING OR WHICH IS REMOVING ALL THAT ASPHALT THAT MIGHT CREATE A BUMP BEFORE GOING TO A PEDESTRIAN RAMP.

GOOD.

BEFORE WE DO THE ADDITIONAL OVERLAY.

WHAT HAPPENED MANY TIMES IS WE OVERLAY AND THEN WE OVERLAY ANOTHER LAYER AND WE HAVE OVERLAY, SO OUR PLAN IS TO GO BACK AND REMOVE SO WE CAN HAVE THAT BETTER ACCESS TO THE PEDESTRIAN RAMPS.

AND WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR PLANNING SECTION TO SEE WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE IN BUSINESS 288 WITH A COMBINATION OF SIDEWALKS AND [INAUDIBLE].

AND WE'RE ALSO TALKING WITH CHRISTINE.

YEAH, I MEAN, SHE BROUGHT UP AND I JUST WANT TO SAY COUNCILMAN WRIGHT.

THE SECTION OF 35 RIGHT HERE THAT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE COULD HAVE SOME NICE SIDEWALKS TO TAKE IT ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO AT LEAST THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIRTY FIVE.

I KNOW THERE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIRTY FIVE HEADING TOWARDS 288, BUT IF WE HAVE ONE NICE EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND MAYBE THAT WOULD BE AN AMBITIOUS.

BUT THERE'S OUR THERE'S A PARK THERE, BATES [INAUDIBLE], THERE'S A SOFTBALL COMPLEX, THERE'S A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES, IT'S BASICALLY NONRESIDENTIAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIRTY FIVE AND THEN THERE'S THE SCHOOL THERE ON, WEST SIDE ELEMENTARY.

IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF SOMEBODY, IF Y'ALL WOULD.

AND I THINK IT SHOWS RIGHT OF WAY AND.

AND.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I'M WRONG IF YOU'RE TELLING US WE CAN DO IT, THEN MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO EXPLORE.

BUT I BELIEVE IT'S YOUR, YOUR CONTROL AND LIKE TO HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AN EIGHTH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO FEET OFF THE ROAD AND AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK THERE OR SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF USE FOR THAT.

I BELIEVE THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WOULD SEND THEIR KIDS THAT WAY AND

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GET TO THE PARK THAT WAY, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL A SMALL ENOUGH CITY THAT YOU CAN WALK RIDE BIKES TO PARKS.

YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT SOLELY LIMITED TO TO THE VEHICLES, TO TRAFFIC.

SO WITHIN TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY.

WE CAN ALSO PARTNER WITH THE CITY.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAMS AND DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAM GOALS THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND LOOK FOR WHAT ALTERNATIVE ARE.

NOT ALL CALLS ARE OFFERED EVERY YEAR, BUT WE CAN LOOK TO SEE WHAT OUR [INAUDIBLE] IS OUT THERE AND IF WE CAN PROVIDE AND SHOW THAT THAT FACILITY IS GOING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CONNECTIVITY, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, TO THE PARKS, TO THE ELEMENTARY THAT ACCUMULATE ADDITIONAL POINTS THAT WE COULD PROBABLY.

I MEAN, I KNOW.

ON A FACILITY LIKE THAT.

I APPRECIATE I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

I PERSONALLY HAVE WALKED IN OR JOGGED TO THAT PARK IN THE STREET BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK TO BE [INAUDIBLE].

SO SO LAST YEAR WE APPLIED FOR THE TXDOT TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATE GRANT, WHICH IS THE PROJECT HERE DOWN 288 BUSINESS.

WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A [INAUDIBLE] SCHOOLS GRANT, WHICH IS A HUNDRED PERCENT GRANT.

WE LOOKED AT HENDERSON ROAD, BUT THAT WE NEED TO DO THE DRAINAGE, WE NEED TO DO ALL THAT STUFF BEFORE THAT.

SO WHEN ANOTHER CALL COMES AROUND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CERTAINLY COME WITH OPTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, PLACES WE CAN DO THAT AND APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS.

I JUST I'M FAMILIAR WITH PASSING THROUGH WEST COLUMBIA AND THEY'VE THERE ARE THIRTY FIVE THROUGH THERE.

THEY HAVE A NICE SIDEWALK THAT RUNS BASICALLY THROUGH THE HEART OF THEIR BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THROUGH THEIR TOWN AND SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT ALONG THIRTY FIVE ON ESPECIALLY THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

I THINK WOULD ADD A LOT OF VALUE.

I MEAN, SAFETY, IT WAS JUST ANYWAY.

I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE.

AND IF IT NEEDS TO BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, THAT'S FINE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE Y'ALLS DOMAIN.

SO AS FAR AS PROPERTY.

YES, IT IS OUR RIGHT OF WAY.

AND WE CAN WORK IN COLLABORATION AND WE CAN ALSO SEE WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE ON OUR OWN TO ADD THOSE TYPE OF FACILITIES.

MARIA, MY WIFE WON'T LET ME BACK IN THE HOUSE IF SHE FINDS OUT THAT YOU WERE HERE.

AND I DIDN'T ASK YOU THIS, BUT THERE ARE A FEW INTERSECTIONS IN TOWN THAT WOULD REALLY, I THINK, WOULD WARRANT HAVING A FLASHING YELLOW PROTECTIVE BEING A CAUTION LEFT TURN.

I SEE THESE IN A LOT OF OTHER AREAS.

THERE ARE SOME INTERSECTIONS WHERE YOU'RE TURNING LEFT OFF THE MAIN ROAD AND YOU SIT THERE AND WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT FOR A GREEN LIGHT WHEN YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND TURN WITH THE FLASHING YELLOW, YELLOW, YELLOW ARROW.

I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME FOR THAT, BUT THERE'S ALONG 274 LOOP 274.

THERE'S A AT CEDAR STREET, MAYBE AT WILKINS.

THAT GETS KIND OF COMPLICATED RIGHT THERE.

AND MAYBE AT PLUM IS IT PLUM WHERE YOU [INAUDIBLE].

THERE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INTERSECTIONS THERE THAT COULD JUST YOU COULD REALLY GET AN APPLAUSE FROM MY WIFE AND ME IF YOU'RE DO THAT.

LOTS OF RESIDENTS.

SO AGAIN, SINCE I'M GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO OUR TRAFFIC SECTIONS TO SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO SEQUENCE THE LIGHTING, THEY ALSO PERFORM STUDIES TO DETERMINE IF THE SIGNAL IS ADEQUATE OR WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE.

SO I'LL BE ASKING THEM TO PERFORM A STUDY TO SEE IF IT WARRANTS TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE FLASHING YELLOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO SEE, I LOOK 274.

AT CEDAR AT WILKINSON AND AT PLUM.

YES, MA'AM.

I'VE GOT ONE MORE INTERSECTION.

GO AHEAD.

YES.

AND THIS IS FAMILY, FRIENDS THAT WORK AT THE HOSPITAL, SO HOSPITAL DRIVE AND THIRTY FIVE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IF THE SENSORS HAVE WE MADE IT BACK TO JUST THE DESIGNATED TIME, BUT THE SENSORS AREN'T WORKING.

SO WHEN THERE'S TRAFFIC BACKED UP, IT'S JUST TIMED.

THERE'S NOT SENSING THAT THERE'S A CAR WAITING.

AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, IT HAS TO DO WITH OVERLAYS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO READ IT

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ANYMORE.

SO WHEN WE DO OVERLAYS, WE ALSO DEPENDING THEY'RE A DIFFERENT SYSTEM THAT DETECT VEHICLES.

WE HAVE LOOPS THAT IF YOU SEE WE HAVE LIKE A RECTANGLE ON THE PAVEMENT.

WE'VE BEEN SWITCHING IN MANY PLACES.

IF THE CABINETS HAVE THE CAPACITY TO RADARS, WHICH IS LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE CAMERA IT'S NOT A CAMERA, IT'S A DETECTION SYSTEM.

AND THERE'S OTHER TYPE OF OF [INAUDIBLE], THEY USE IT ALSO ANOTHER TYPE OF RADAR.

BUT TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE AN OVERLAY PROJECT, WE ADD LOOPS.

IF THERE'S A LOOP, WE HAVE AN ITEM TO REPLACE THEM.

SO I CANNOT TELL YOU, I, I HOPE THAT WE ARE REPLACING EVERY TIME.

BUT IF YOU BRING IT UP, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MY HAPPENING IS BROKEN, MIGHT NOT BE WORKING.

IT MIGHT BE TIME TO CONSIDER ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE.

I CAN LOOK INTO IT AND SEE.

AND WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT IN THE AREA, WE CAN SEE WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE.

HOSPITAL DRIVE AND STATE HIGHWAY 35.

I NEED TO ADD TO THE WISH LIST.

LET'S KEEP ADDING AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS EVERY INTERSECTION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT IS THE PROBLEM AND WHAT WE WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

WE'RE GOING TO WORK THE WAY.

BUT I CANNOT TELL YOU THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS EACH OF THESE LOCATIONS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND MAYBE PRIORITIZE THEM.

MAYBE I MIGHT COME BACK TO YOU IF WE CANNOT DO THEM ONE.

NO, IT'S A SMALL ONE, TOO LIKE LIKE HE JUST SAID TODAY WHEN I WAS DRIVING THE DEVELOPMENTS, I WAS IT WAS BUCHTA AND 35 HEADING SOUTHBOUND TO GO LEFT TO GON TO BUCHTA AND I SAT THROUGH LIKE SIX CYCLES.

I DIDN'T WANT TO RUN THE RED LIGHT, SO I JUST GOT INTO THE GREEN, WENT DOWN, WENT TO THE TRAILER PARK, TURNED AROUND AND CAME BACK TO BUCHTA AND MADE A LEGAL RIGHT AND TURN ON RED.

SO BUT ANYWAY, THAT THAT TURN SIGNAL SOUTHBOUND ON TO BUCHTA ROAD, LIKE IT'S CALLED COUNTY ROAD 428.

IT DID NOT CYCLE, IT PAST ME UP EVERY SINGLE TIME.

IT NEVER TURNED TO A GREEN ARROW.

SO IT'S THE SOUTHBOUND TURN LANE ONTO COUNTY ROAD 428.

IT JUST HAPPENED.

AND I DID NOTICE TODAY I WAS LOOKING FOR THE SENSOR.

IT'S THE LITTLE RADAR ON THE ARM OF THE POST.

AND YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

THE TIMING IS RELATIVELY EASY FOR US TO MAINTAIN.

WE HAVE AT THESE THREE, IT'S BEEN MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR, TWO YEARS THAT THERE'S A NEW PERSON HANDLING THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, THE TIMING, AND THEY ARE VERY RESPONSIVE.

SO I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO, I THINK IF IT ISN'T RELATED TO TIMING, I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH MORE HOPE THAN MAYBE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS.

WELL, THAT'S ALL WE CAN ASK YOU TO ASSESS AND SEE IF THERE'S A SOLUTION.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU HAVE THE BIGGEST THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT THAT I HEAR ABOUT IS THE LIGHTS AND GETTING THEM TO FUNCTION THE WAY WE SEE IN OTHER AREAS AND SEEING THAT.

AND THE OTHER, I WANT TO TELL YOU, MARIA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT.

THIS HAS BEEN LONG OVERDUE.

AND I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, THE TXDOT REPS AND THE CITY BACK ON THE SAME PAGE.

YOU KNOW, AFTER THE MEDIANS FIASCO, IT KIND OF WENT SEPARATE WAYS.

BUT THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO LEAVE YOU WITH IS DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN EXPLORING AND TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS WITH THE EAST SIDE ON THE 35 SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN WHERE THE CITY AND TXDOT MIGHT BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH SOME MORE PIPING UNDERNEATH THAT ROAD.

AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, IF THERE'S SOME FUTURE PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR FUNDING ON DRAINAGE PROJECTS RIGHT THROUGH HERE, WHERE WE CAN PIPE THE WATER OUT FROM THE MIDDLE OF TOWN OUT SOUTH OF US.

AND THEN I GUESS IT GOES WITH THE OLD THE OLD ADAGE IS, JUST AS WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO DO SIDEWALKS IN CERTAIN AREAS AND GET TXDOT APPROVAL, WHATEVER HELP YOU CAN GIVE US THERE TO GET THESE THINGS EXPEDITED, BECAUSE SOMETIMES OUR PROJECTS KIND OF LANGUISH AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REMOVING A LOT FASTER.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE.

I APPRECIATE THIS FEEDBACK.

I'M GETTING TO KNOW THE COUNTY I LIVE IN MORE AND I'M GETTING TO KNOW ANGLETON A LITTLE BIT MORE AND LEARNING WHAT ARE THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE.

WE WOULD REALLY HELP US, I KNOW MY TEAM TO SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE.

ALSO, TXDOT.

TXDOT INITIATED, LAST MONTH, A CALL FOR NEED.

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THEY ARE MEETING FIRST WITH THE AREA OFFICES AND LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT CORRIDORS AND LOCATIONS THAT MIGHT NEED IMPROVEMENT.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO START REACHING OUT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KNOW SO WE CAN START PREPARING FUTURE PROJECTS.

I UNDERSTAND THEY WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND I ACTUALLY ASKED OUR DEPARTMENT TO INVITE ME AS WELL, BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TO SAY.

AND WE HAVE OUR BUDGET AND WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE PLANNED, SOME OF THEM FIVE YEARS AHEAD OF TIME, SOME OF THEM TEN YEARS AHEAD OF TIME.

BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCOMMODATE A SMALLER PROJECT IN BETWEEN.

AND IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WE'LL TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE POINTS THAT CAN FIT THE BUDGET OR A MAIN ISSUE, IF NOT, WE CAN SCHEDULE THEM, BUT IT WILL NOT BE IMMEDIATELY, MAYBE FIVE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MARIA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE SEEING YOUR FACE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT CONCLUDES NUMBER 10.

MOVING ON TO NUMBER 11, PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE

[11. Presentation, discussion, and possible action on the Windmill Ridge project. (Part 1 of 2)]

WINDMILL RIDGE PROJECT MS. LINDSAY? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WAS TEXTING EARLIER WITH THE PROJECT OWNER.

HE IS NOT GOING TO BE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU.

SO I HOPE I DO HIM WELL BY PRESENTING THIS AND ARTICULATING EXACTLY WHAT HIS NEEDS ARE AND HIS PROJECT'S GOALS AND WHAT HIS ENVISIONED.

HE DID SAY THAT HE HAD TO TAKE A FAMILY MEMBER TO THE HOSPITAL.

SO WE DO HOPE THAT ALL IS WELL WITH HIM AND HIS FAMILY.

SO WHAT WE HAVE.

DO YOU WANT TO JUST TABLE FOR THE NEXT MEETING OR DOES HE WANT US TO PROCEED? SO I WOULD RECOMMEND TABLING IT.

I'D RATHER HAVE HIM IN FOR QUESTIONING.

I DID ASK IF HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH ME PRESENTING, AND THE REASON THAT IT IS TIME SENSITIVE IS BECAUSE HE HAS A SALE PENDING ON THE PROPERTY.

IT IS A VERY LARGE PURCHASE.

SO I DID OBTAIN HIS PERMISSION TO PRESENT ON HIS BEHALF.

IF YOU GUYS ARE OK WITH THAT.

WELL, WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED.

HERE'S THE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

HERE'S THE LIST WITHOUT VISITING WITH HIM.

SO YOU HAVE COMPETING INTERESTS.

IT'S TIME SENSITIVE VERSUS HIS ABILITY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

IF IT'S THAT IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO HAVE IT TIME WITHOUT BECAUSE THE TIME SENSITIVITY COME ON TO PERCEIVE IT, YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS MAY HURT YOU.

UNDERSTOOD.

CAN YOU, LIKE, TEXT HIM AND SEE IF WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS ONE? WE WANT TO GIVE HIM A FEW MINUTES JUST TO LET HIM KNOW OUR POSITION.

OK, THAT'S FINE.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, THANKS.

AND ASK HIM IF TWO WEEKS IS, I MEAN, WE PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEM.

THIS IS JUST FOR PRESENTATION, BUT I WILL GET HIS HIS FEEDBACK ON THAT AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OK, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO NUMBER 12 PRESENTATION,

[12. Presentation, discussion, and possible action on the Broadband Study.]

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON BROADBAND STUDY.

WHAT WOULD THAT BE? WALTER? JASON? OUR BROADBAND STUDY.

OH, IT'S MARTHA.

I DIDN'T SEE YOU COMING UP.

ALL I'M HERE TO DO IS TO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS TO INTRODUCE BRIAN BAKER.

YOU MAY REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE BROADBAND INITIATIVE AND KICKED IT OFF THAT WE HIRED HIS COMPANY COMP CONTROL, INC.

TO COME IN AND DO A BROADBAND STUDY.

HE HAS COMPLETED THAT STUDY AND HE'S HERE TO PRESENT THE FINDINGS TO YOU TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR HAVING ME BACK.

I THINK THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE AND INTRODUCED THIS PROJECT, IT WAS JANUARY.

SO LAST YEAR WHEN WE GOT THE GREEN LIGHT AND STARTED PUTTING OUR FEET ON THE PAVEMENT.

SO WE HAD BEHIND US A FACEBOOK SURVEY.

THERE'S A LOT OF FEEDBACK COMING IN PREVIOUS TO THAT, BUT WE TOOK A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT AS TO WHAT THE PERCEPTION WAS OF AVAILABILITY AND QUALITY OF BROADBAND SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE GREATER ANGLETON AREA.

THAT KICKED OUR PROJECT OFF PRETTY WELL.

WE FOUND FROM THE SURVEYS THAT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH AND THERE WASN'T ENOUGH WHERE IT'S NEEDED.

SO WE SPENT THE MAJORITY OF THE SPRING AND EVEN PARTS OF THE SUMMER DRIVING ROUTES WORKING WITH EXISTING SERVICE PROVIDERS, WORKING WITH EXISTING COMPANIES THAT WERE CONSUMERS HERE AND PUT TOGETHER SOME SLIDES AND THAT ARE INCLUDED IN OUR REPORT.

I THINK WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PAGES HERE, BUT I THOUGHT I'D JUST HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THESE ARE WHAT WE FOUND.

ON THE USER SIDE, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A RATHER LARGE RESIDENTIAL USER BASE THAT'S DISPERSED.

WE HAD DISCOVERED THERE WAS A GOOD HALF A DOZEN NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

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SO WE SPENT SOME TIME WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND WORKING WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT WERE LINING UP TO HAVE BROADBAND SERVICE IN THERE.

WE ALSO FOUND A NUMBER OF SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT WEREN'T REALLY AVAILABLE OR WERE THEY WEREN'T YOU KNOW, THEIR APPEARANCE WASN'T KNOWN.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE PROJECT, WE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, AN INCUMBENT CABLE PROVIDER AND A TELEPHONE PROVIDER IN TOWN AND MAYBE A COMPETITIVE PROVIDER.

AND WE ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH ABOUT 13 DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDERS THROUGH OUR WORK.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH THEM.

JASON'S GOT A MAP UP HERE OF SOME OF THE FIBER ROUTES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDERS.

WE COMPILED A DATABASE OF OF WHO THESE GUYS ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE MAKING THEIR INVESTMENTS AND WHERE THEY'RE DELIVERING SERVICE TO.

AND I THINK WHAT I BROUGHT TODAY WAS MORE SO A SUMMARY OF WHAT OUR FINDINGS HAD IDENTIFIED ON THE USER SIDE.

AND THEN ON THE SERVICE PROVIDER SIDE.

THERE'S SOME STUFF TO WORK WITH THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF LARGE USERS IN TOWN, LARGE USERS BEING A GIGABIT LEVEL AND ABOVE.

BUT WE DO HAVE A LARGE BASE OF SMALL AND MIDSIZE BUSINESSES AND THEN A DISPERSED USER BASE.

SO FROM A RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE, SO WE IDENTIFIED FIBER PROVIDERS.

THIS MAP THAT JASON HAS UP HERE NOW IS WHERE ALL THE WIRELESS STRUCTURES ARE.

AND WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER MARKETS AROUND THE COUNTRY IS WHERE THE FIBER PROVIDERS CAN'T DELIVER SERVICE TO YOU READILY.

THE WIRELESS ISPS CAN.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THOSE GUYS OUT THERE AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE EVEN INTERCHANGEABLE.

SO THE WIRELESS ISPS RELY ON THE FIBER PROVIDERS.

AND ONE OF THE FIBER PROVIDERS THAT WE FOUND IS NEW TO TOWN.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NEWER SERVICE PROVIDER HERE THAT'S DELIVERING GIGABIT SERVICE BETWEEN SOME OF THE COUNTY LOCATIONS AS WELL AS THE LIBRARIES AND SCHOOLS.

AND I THINK WE'RE EVEN LOOKING AT THEM AS A COUPLE OF THE CITY STRUCTURES, TOO, AS WELL.

SO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE A COMPETITIVE PROVIDER, BUT WE ALSO HAVE [INAUDIBLE] NOW, WHICH IS A SECOND FIBER PROVIDER IN TOWN THAT DELIVERS GIGABIT LEVEL SERVICE OVER FIBER OPTICS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO FLIP TO THE LAST PAGE WITH THE TIME FRAME WE HAVE.

WE CAME UP WITH A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT NOT ONLY PUTS SOME OF THE INFORMATION AND CONNECTS A FEW OF THESE DOTS HERE AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT WE FOUND, BUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE THAT INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT HAVING ENOUGH SPEED AND NOT HAVING THE RIGHT SERVICES IN THE RIGHT PLACES.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY CLOSE WITH CHRIS TO GET SOME OF THIS INFORMATION ON A WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN GO TO AND CAN CALL FOR INTERNET.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A COUPLE OF IDEAS TO GET SOME A BROADBAND COMMITTEE TOGETHER SO WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THESE SERVICE PROVIDERS, MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER [INAUDIBLE] THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HERE IN TOWN TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY THAT SAYS, HEY, IF THERE'S AN OUTAGE IN TOWN, WHO ARE MY CHOICES OR IF I HAVE A NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR IF MY BUSINESS CAN'T GET THE INTERNET, WHERE DO THEY GO TO AND HOW CAN THEY GET AN ANALYSIS ON WHAT'S AVAILABLE THERE? SO WE USUALLY SEE SOME KIND OF A TECH COMMITTEE OR A COMMUNICATIONS COMMUNITY SERVICE.

SO ONE OF OUR SECOND RECOMMENDATIONS WAS LET'S GET SOME OF THESE HEADS TOGETHER OF THE SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT ARE OUT THERE SO WE CAN ENSURE THAT WHAT THEY'RE SELLING IS PERCEIVED APPROPRIATELY BY THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BASIS OF WHAT CAN BE BOUGHT.

AND THEN I THREW IN A COUPLE OTHER MORE AGGRESSIVE PIECES IN HERE, TOO, BECAUSE WITH BOTH [INAUDIBLE], WE'RE BEING COMPETITIVE PROVIDERS IN TOWN HERE.

THERE'S SOME CONNECTIONS MISSING IN BETWEEN THEIR NETWORKS AND ALSO IN BETWEEN THEM AND THE WIRELESS ISPS.

SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT'S GOING ON NATIONALLY AND EVEN LOOKED AT A FEW OF THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES HERE, IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING FIBER IN NOW, GET FIBER IN THE GROUND.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE GUYS GETTING A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THEIR TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE STICKING OUT THERE AND JUST BUILDING AND HOPING THEY'LL COME? WE LOOKED AT IT FROM WHERE THE USERS AT BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, WHERE ARE THESE FIBER PROVIDERS AND WHERE ARE THE WIRELESS ISPS? AND IDENTIFIED SOME OF THE KEY CONNECTION AREAS WHERE WE MIGHT NEED FOUR OR FIVE THOUSAND FEET OF FIBER TO CONNECT THE KEY WATER TOWER, A NEW WATER TOWER, A KEY CELL STRUCTURE BACK TO A BACKBONE THAT THEN GOES TO HOUSTON OR [INAUDIBLE].

AND SO WHEN WE SAID, HEY, LET'S GET THIS IN FOR.

AND HERE, LET'S CREATE THE COMMUNICATION CHAIN, BUT ALSO WE'RE BEGINNING TO SURFACE A LITTLE AREA THAT THEY MAY NEED INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE] BUILT THAT ON THOSE YET BECAUSE, LIGHT WAVE IS JUST BUILDING OUT RIGHT NOW.

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COMCAST IS JUST BUILDING IN FROM THE SOUTH.

AT&T IS JUST PLANNING FIBER TO A FEW OF THESE NEW SUBDIVISIONS.

AND AS THAT TRANSPIRES OVER THE NEXT YEAR HERE, WE'RE GOING TO SEE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONNECT AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD OR CREATE A CONNECTION DISTRICT DOWNTOWN HERE WHERE A LOT OF THE CITY WILL LIGHT UP A PARK OR A MULTIUSE BUILDING OR A TECH HUB OR A CAFE, THINGS THAT CAN PUT BANDWIDTH IN PEOPLE'S HANDS IF THEY CAN'T GET IT AT HOME.

SO EVERYTHING FROM TALKING ABOUT IT, PUTTING THE INFORMATION TOGETHER AND POSSIBLY OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, BRINGING BACK MAPS WITH LINES THAT HAVE DOLLAR SIGNS BY THEM IS WHAT OUR FINAL, I'D SAY, PLAN.

BUT A PLAN IS GOING TO END HERE TODAY.

BUT THIS IS A CONTINUAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT AS LOST AS IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE A YEAR AGO WHEN WE STARTED THIS.

ACTUALLY, 13 COMPANIES HERE THAT PROVIDE BROADBAND.

WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING BACK IDEAS IN ADDITION TO JUST PUTTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION OUT THERE SO THE CONSUMERS CAN GET A HOLD OF IT AND PUTTING THE PUZZLE PIECES TOGETHER THAT SAYS, HEY, HERE'S HOW WE GET A GIGABIT TO THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT.

HERE'S HOW WE CAN GET CONNECTIVITY TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT GOT BYPASSED FOR THE FIBER TO THE HOME THAT THE INCOMING TELEPHONE COMPANY OR THE CABLE COMPANY.

SO I'VE GOT IT TOGETHER.

I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A Q&A.

IT'S OUT THERE.

WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

I DON'T HAVE A SPREADSHEET REQUEST WITH AN HOUR MODEL TODAY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE WORK WE'VE DONE JUST THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS ARE , I GUESS, LIGHTWEIGHT, CONNECTING A FEW OF THESE SITES UP.

AND THE WORK WE'VE DONE WITH MARTHA TRYING TO IDENTIFY MAYBE A TECH CAFE OR A CO WORKING SPACE OR SOMEWHERE DOWNTOWN THAT CAN PLANT SOME REAL BANDWIDTH THAT WE CAN BUILD FROM THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR HANDS ON AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE LOOKS LIKE.

TWENTY FIVE OR FIFTY MEG UP AND DOWN WHERE A LOT OF THEM ARE REALLY STRUGGLING TO EVEN HAVE ANYTHING, INCLUDING DSL AT HOME RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S A FEW BULLET POINTS IN THERE.

WE'RE WORKING ON THINGS THAT ARE JUST AS SIMPLE AS COMMUNICATION, BUT ALSO AS TANGIBLE AND AS ADDRESSABLE AS IF MAYBE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OUR BUILDINGS IN HERE THAT WE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON TO PUT THE PIECES PARTS TOGETHER SO THE BIG GUYS CAN COME IN AND DO GIGABIT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A BUSINESS PARK OR TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

SO AND I'VE INCLUDED A LOT OF MAPS IN HERE.

SO YOU GUYS HAVE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

SO IF THEY JUST COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, WHERE'S THE INTERNET IN TOWN.

AT LEAST WE KNOW NOW WHERE THE FIBER IS.

WE KNOW WHERE THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE.

WE KNOW WHERE AT&T IS PICKING UP AND WE KNOW WHERE COMCAST IS PICKING UP AT.

BUT WE ALSO KNOW WHERE SOME OF THE GAPS ARE SO WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AS THEY NEED SERVICE.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, IN MY OPINION, AT LEAST, HELPED US UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY AND GIVES US A GOOD TOOL TO ALLOW THOSE PROVIDERS MAYBE WHERE THEY NEED TO BEEF UP, IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS, OR FOR FUTURE BEEFING UP.

AND IT'S TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE, BECAUSE LIKE WE'VE SAID, THIS DESK, WE HAD NEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE AN OPTION.

AND SO THANK YOU, JASON AND MARTHA AND STAFF AND YOUR COMPANY FOR FIGURING OUT WHERE WE'RE AT.

I HAD NO CLUE WHEN I READ THE REPORT A COUPLE DAYS AGO, 13 PROVIDERS IN THE AREA? I HAD NO CLUE THEY EXISTED.

YOU KNOW, I DO LIKE THE IDEA ABOUT HAVING STAFF HAVE A LIST.

SO WHEN THAT PERSON DOES COME TO TOWN, WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS? AND THEN I WAS ALSO THINKING, HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT WITH THESE DEVELOPERS, WHO GETS IT, WHO DOESN'T GET IT? YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE OTHER OTHER PIECE, TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE AND WE WANT MAKE SURE THEY HAVE YOU BY TWO HUNDRED THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOME AND YOU DON'T HAVE INTERNET.

YOU KNOW, THE INTERESTING THING, THE INCUMBENTS WENT TO THEM DIRECTLY AND SECURED COMMITMENTS, [INAUDIBLE] COMMITMENTS.

SO THEY'RE ON OUR RADAR SCREEN.

THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SERVED BY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE INCUMBENT CARRIERS INITIALLY.

BUT KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, INCLUDING SOME HOMETOWN TEAMS. SURE.

IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

THEY WERE A LITTLE PROTECTIVE ON, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THE INCUMBENT PHONE COMPANY WAS COMING IN AND BUILDING OUT THE SUBDIVISION BECAUSE THERE'S INVESTMENT THERE.

BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN'T SUPPORT A COMMUNITY WIDE EFFORT, OR AT LEAST IF WE GOT TO RUN PAST THEM, THEY WON'T KEEP US OUT OF THERE RIGHT-OF-WAYS.

GOTCHA.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO A COUPLE THINGS.

SO WE WE'VE TAKEN THE PROACTIVE APPROACH TO COMCAST AND THE OTHER PROVIDERS TO SAY, HERE'S ALL DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN.

AND SO HERE'S THE POINT OF CONTACT AND.

REALLY PUSH THEM TOWARD THE DEVELOPERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE BEST OPTIONS AND ALL THE OPTIONS, AND THEN YOU LIST NUMBER THREE ABOUT DOWNTOWN.

SO WE HAVE A MEETING THIS WEEK WITH PLTE.

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AND JASON'S WORKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ENJOY A CUP OF COFFEE AT WIKI WIKI'S AND DISCUSS HOW WE CAN DO SOME DOWNTOWN WI FI.

YEAH, THERE'S SOME HGAC GRANTS OUT THERE FOR BROADBAND FUNDING.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT, FIGURE OUT THE SCOPE, WORK WITH THE CHAMBER, FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN INVOLVE BUSINESSES.

FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IF A IF A BUSINESS SUPPORTS THE WI-FI, YOU KNOW, THEY GET PROVIDED THE WI-FI PAID FOR THROUGH THE GRANT AND AS PART OF THE BACKBONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE AREA AND MAP IT OUT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING TO THE COUNTY, AND THEY DON'T CURRENTLY PROVIDE ANY WI-FI FOR ANY OF THE VISITORS OVER AT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE.

AND SO WE'VE GOT THE COUNTY IT COMING TO TALK ABOUT THAT ALSO.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A TALL BUILDING AND THEY'RE BUILDING ANOTHER TALL BUILDING.

AND SO THERE'S ALL GREAT PLACES TO PUT HARDWARE THAT WOULD SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS DOWNTOWN.

WELL, THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SO WHAT DO YOU SEE THE VISION GOING FORWARD FROM HERE? DO YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM US TONIGHT? WHAT DO YOU SEE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS? I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR OVER A YEAR, RIGHT? SO, I GUESS WE'RE READY FOR THE NEXT STEP WITH THESE INITIATIVES, THESE ONE THROUGH FIVE? YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, AGAIN, NUMBER THREE, WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT.

AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH A PLAN AND OR A POTENTIAL PLAN.

AND THERE'S CARES FUNDING.

THERE'S AMERICA'S RECOVERY PLAN FUNDING.

THERE'S GRANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT THERE THROUGH HGAC.

AND SO WE'LL COME BACK WITH ALL THOSE OPTIONS OF HOW WE COULD DO THAT.

I GUESS, FROM WHEN WE STARTED THIS A YEAR AGO, THIS DISCUSSION AND CREATING THE PLAN.

AND WE DID THE SURVEY AND ALL THAT.

AND I'LL ASK STAFF TO COMMENT, TOO.

BUT WITH COMCAST AND AND THOSE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, BEING VERY PROACTIVE IN THEIR YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HITTING WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES AND DIGGING UP PEOPLE'S YARDS AND ALL THAT.

I MEAN, BUT THERE'S ACTION.

AND SO I THINK YOU HAD A NUMBER, JASON, ABOUT HOW MANY? YEAH, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT AND ACTUALLY THE REP IS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM TONIGHT, BUT SHE DID LET ME KNOW THAT THERE'S ABOUT TWO THOUSAND HOMES THAT THEY'RE TARGETING FOR THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL 4000 HOMES NEXT YEAR.

SO THAT'S THEIR TARGET IN THEIR BUILD OUT IN THE AREA.

SO THEY'RE WORKING HARD.

THEY'RE WORKING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PROVIDER RIGHT THERE.

ONE OF THE WELL, THE BIGGIES IF YOU WILL, THAT ARE.

I GUESS, MY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT TO FURTHER THIS, BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING A VERY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ALL THE PROVIDERS ARE TAKING A VERY PROACTIVE APPROACH AND REALLY TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, CAPTURE THE MARKET, BOTH THE CURRENT AND THE FUTURE ONE.

AND I THINK WHEN WE STARTED THIS, OUR VISION WAS, DON'T QUOTE ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT DO WE CREATE OUR OWN TO GIVE THE VALUE THAT THESE CUSTOMERS NEED OF OUR OR I THINK BECAUSE OF OUR EFFORTS IN PUTTING IT ON THE RADAR, THEY HAVE STEPPED UP AND NOTICED THAT THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR THEM TO BE THE NEW GET A NEW CUSTOMER IF WE HAVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS SOUND AND RELIABLE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

IT'S, I THINK IT'S RUFFLED SOME BUSHES SOMEWHERE.

AND PEOPLE ARE BEEFING UP AND THEY'RE COMING TO TOWN TO OFFER BUSINESS.

AND WE'LL FIX THINGS FOR THE FUTURE, LIKE WHEN WE DO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MANDATE THAT THE DEVELOPERS PUT IN FIBER.

THAT'S THE LESSON LEARNED FROM ONE OF THE EARLIER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE FOUND OUT.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I THINK WE CAN DO AT OUR LEVEL.

I'M NOT AT THIS POINT A BIG FAN OF DOING AN ISP, YOU KNOW, RUN BY THE CITY.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S OUR CORE SKILL.

THAT'S NOT OUR FUNCTION.

I THINK WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE PROVIDE PUBLIC WI-FI.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE RUNNING FIBER TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT HELPS PUT A BRANCH OUT THERE.

I THINK PUTTING WI-FI AT ALL OUR PARKS AND MAKING IT, YOU KNOW, GOOD, RELIABLE WI-FI.

I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT HELP THAT.

AND AGAIN, IF WE IDENTIFY A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OR WE IDENTIFY APARTMENTS OR WE IDENTIFY SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GETTING SERVICE, THEN WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT SPECIALIZED SERVICE TO THOSE AREAS AND TRY TO CREATE THAT PARTNERSHIP.

I DID WALK RIVERWOOD THE OTHER DAY AND THEY HAVE 18 TEE BOXES IN THE GROUND.

SO THAT'S HOW THEY MUST HAVE TAG TO BE THEIR PROVIDER OF INTERNET SERVICE.

PROBABLY ABOUT RIVERWOOD.

WHAT WAS THE BUSINESS? AT&T, YEAH.

[INAUDIBLE], DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? YEAH.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS BAD AS COVID WAS, I THINK IT BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT OUR

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NEED FOR BANDWIDTH.

PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME.

AND I THINK THE SERVICE PROVIDERS REALIZED THAT AND THEY REALIZED THAT ANGLETON WAS UNDERSERVED.

AND SO I THINK OUR CONVERSATIONS PLUS THAT JUST HELPED PROPEL THE THE NEED OR HIGHLIGHT THE NEED SO THAT THEY COULD STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND HANDLE AND PROVIDE SERVICE TO OUR AREA.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CITIZENS TO REALIZE THE SCOPE OF THESE PROJECTS.

IT'S HUGE.

OH, YEAH.

TRYING TO WIRE AN ENTIRE CITY AND WE ALL WANT IT YESTERDAY, BUT IT'S A YEAR TO YEAR, POSSIBLY A THREE YEAR PROJECT.

BUT IT'S HAPPENING AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THE GROUNDWORK AND WE'LL GET THERE.

BUT IT'S EXCITING TO SEE.

WE'RE EXPERIENCING THE GROWING PAINS OF SOME OF THE HICCUPS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS HERE WITHIN SOME RESIDENTS, WHICH RIGHTFULLY SO.

THEY'D LIKE TO COME RIGHT TO GET UPSET IF THEIR PROPERTY GETS DAMAGED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.

I THINK THIS STUDY THAT WE'VE DONE HAS HELPED HIGHLIGHT THAT.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER OPTIONS CURRENTLY.

YEAH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE SLOWER SPEEDS, BUT MAYBE MORE RELIABLE.

I KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

T-MOBILE STEPPED UP AND MADE US ONE OF THE FIRST SITES FOR HOME BROADBAND, WIRELESS HOME BROADBAND.

SO I KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SAW OUR POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND PICKED UP THE PHONE AND CALLED T-MOBILE.

SO IT'S I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, LIKE I SAID, MAYBE PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST, SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN OUR VISITOR CENTER, GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE.

THESE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE LANDLOCKED INTO TWO CURRENTLY AND MORE COMING OR IMPROVING THEIR NETWORKS.

BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS.

AND I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO CHIMED IN ON FACEBOOK TO AT LEAST KIND OF DISPEL SOME RUMORS ON HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY AND AND WHATNOT AND I APPRECIATE YOU, JOHN STEPPING IN.

I REMEMBER BRINGING THIS ON JUST A WING AND A PRAYER.

WHAT WAS IT, APRIL, APRIL OF LAST YEAR? AND IT WAS OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ON IT.

AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY I THINK IT WAS REALLY A CITYWIDE EFFORT BETWEEN ALL THE CITIZENS, US TALKING ABOUT IT, BRINGING IT BACK, AND THEN GOING FORWARD WITH THIS INITIATIVE TO REALLY MAKE EVERYONE COME AND SAY THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON HERE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

I WILL TELL YOU, I AM ONE OF THE EARLY ADOPTERS OF THE T-MOBILE AND MIXED REVIEWS, SO FAR.

I'M WAS GOING TO SAY THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOUR OPINION OF THIS WITH THE FIBER GOING IN THE GROUND.

THE, AND I HAVE I HAVE AT&T AND I HAVE T-MOBILE.

I'M RUNNING BOTH AT MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW JUST TO SEE.

AND ONE THING I'M NOTICING IS THE DSL AT&T LINES, IT'S SLOW BUT STEADY.

AND THEN I'M SEEING THE T-MOBILE, WHICH IS FAST, BUT IT'S VERY BLOTCHY, SOMETIMES SIGNAL GOES OFF FOR A SECOND, COMES BACK AND JUST ENOUGH TO DISCONNECT YOU FROM YOUR VPN OR SOMETHING.

SO IS FIBER THE HOLY GRAIL THERE? ABSOLUTELY, YEAH.

IT'S A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, EVEN [INAUDIBLE] OR ETHERNET.

A LOT OF THE SUBDIVISIONS WE DO ARE CAMPUS ENVIRONMENTS OR STREET LIKE CAT FIBER, CAT SIX CABLE.

THE WIRELESS ISP IS MICRO DISH, YOU GET OUT OF THE STEP ABOVE THAT RESIDENTIAL GRADE INTERNET, THE ISPS WILL START PUTTING SOME QUALITY OF SERVICE ON THOSE.

SO THE AT&T FIBER PRODUCTS, THE COMCAST PRODUCTS, THE LIGHT WAVE, YOU KNOW, THE NEW GUYS IN TOWN, SPARK LIGHT.

WE HAVE CONNECTIONS FROM SPARK LIGHT HERE.

THEY'LL ACTUALLY MONITOR AND MANAGE THOSE SERVICES FOR YOU.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I MEAN, I THINK SECOND QUARTER, AT&T FINALLY SAID WE HAVE BEEN MORE FIBER BASED REVENUE THAN THEY HAD DSL REVENUE.

SO YOU CAN EVEN SEE ON THE BIG GUYS WHERE ALL THE FOCUS AND REVENUE SHIFTING, BUT ALSO THE QUALITY OF SERVICE THAT COMES WITH IT.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE IS THE FIRST GENERATION OF RESIDENTIAL BROADBAND SERVICE.

IT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED BY THE SECOND AND THIRD GENERATION BEING A FIBER TO THE HOME.

THAT'S NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENT IDEAS, ALL OF OUR FARMS. SO I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS THAT I'M JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE TOWER FOR T-MOBILE AND I STILL SEE FLUCTUATIONS, BUT I MEAN, IT'S FASTER.

AND THEY'RE A CATCH ALL.

SO T-MOBILE AND VERIZON AND THE OTHER BIG GUYS ROLLING OUT THAT 5G AND THEY'RE EVEN DOING SOME POINT TO POINT WIRELESS.

THE MAJOR MARKETS LIKE THE WIRELESS ISPS DO.

BUT IN THE YOU KNOW, THE 4G AND THE 5G ARENA, IT'S PUBLIC SPACE.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF QUALITY OF CONTROL THAT THEY COME INTO.

EVENTUALLY IF WE GET FIBER THROUGH THERE OR COAXIAL OR ETHERNET OR MICROWAVE.

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I MEAN, THAT'S THAT WOULD BE THE END GOAL THERE.

OK, ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING LEFT FROM COUNCIL TO STAFF TO OUR CONSULTANT HERE? ONCE AGAIN, HEY, THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE, THIS WAS GREAT INFORMATION.

IT'S A LOT.

I APOLOGIZE FOR JUST THROWING THE SPAGHETTI ON THE WALL.

NO.

BUT THERE'S FIVE GOOD THINGS THERE.

FIRST COUPLE ARE SOFT AND THEN AS YOU GET FURTHER INTO IT, THE MORE TANGIBLE THERE'S EVEN SOME STUFF IN THERE.

IF YOU GUYS GET A DATA CENTER THAT SHOWS UP WITH AN ACTION PLAN FOR IT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT OUT THERE, JUST SAYING WE'RE READY TO GO AND YOU GOT THE RIGHT MIX OF STUFF FALLING IN PLACE.

A BIG CALL CENTER OR SOMETHING, THEY'RE READY TO GO.

THEY LOOK FOR OFF THE BEATEN PATH STUFF.

SO IT'S NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE HURRICANE ZONE OR NUCLEAR ZONE.

AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY OF THEM POP UP AROUND THE MAJOR METROS.

AWESOME, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? OK, THANKS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT TAKES US TO NUMBER 13.

YOU WANT TO TAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, GUYS? REAL QUICK? QUICK TAKE A QUICK [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE TABLE AT TEN TILL.

WE'RE BACK AT THE TABLE.

SHOWS AT 8:52 BACK IN SESSION.

SO WE ARE GOING TO JUMP BACK UP TO NUMBER 11 IN THE PRESENTATION, DISCUSS YOUR

[11. Presentation, discussion, and possible action on the Windmill Ridge project. (Part 2 of 2)]

POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE WINDMILL RIDGE PROJECT.

SO MS. LINDSEY DID SPEAK WITH THE GENTLEMAN AND SAID FOR HER TO PRESS ON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO, YES, I DID CALL MR. DAVID GALLO AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION.

HE ASKED ME TO COVER CERTAIN CRITERIA CONCERNING HIS PROJECT.

HIS PROJECT IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF LOVE'S TRUCK STOP AT 523 AND 288.

IT IS A TRIANGULAR SHAPED PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKETS.

AND WHAT HE'S PROPOSING TO DO HERE WITH THIS APPROXIMATE 90 ACRES IS A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK, WHICH WOULD BE PLATTED AS ONE LOT.

THE REASON FOR THIS IS IT'S RATHER SIMPLE, ACTUALLY.

HE'S HE'S DOING A RENTAL COMMUNITY, SO LESSEES WOULD RENT THE SPACES.

THESE SPACES ARE PROPOSED TO BE 60 FOOT IN WIDTH, AND HE'S PROPOSING GREEN SPACE AND OTHER AMENITIES, SUCH AS A SWIMMING POOL AND AN OFFICE.

ALSO OF NOTE, HE'S PROPOSING TO ENCUMBER A CERTAIN UNDETERMINED PERCENTAGE DEDICATED TO AGES 55 AND OLDER.

THAT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR THAT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND WHEN I PRESENTED TO THE SENIOR COMMISSION LAST WEEK, I HAD NO NEW DEDICATED SENIOR DEVELOPMENTS ON WHICH TO REPORT.

SO I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.

BUT WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR IT'S KIND OF COMPLICATED BECAUSE HE'S ASKING TO VOLUNTARILY ANNEX SO THAT HE CAN RECEIVE CITY UTILITIES AT HIS EXPENSE.

HOWEVER, STAFF, WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT HIS CITY, IS NOT, HIS STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY CONSTITUTES CONTIGUITY WITH THE CITY'S LIMITS.

SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A CONVERSATION WE WOULD HAVE LATER WITH LEGAL AND MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT WAY.

HOWEVER, THE BASIS FOR HIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT WAS TO FEEL OUT COUNCIL'S SENTIMENTS ON HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT EXTENDING UTILITIES AND ANNEXING THAT PROPERTY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF COVER A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS THAT HE MENTIONED.

AGAIN, THIS IS ONE HUNDRED NINETY NINE UNITS MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.

HE HAS DONE SOME CALCULATIONS ON HIS OWN AND STATED THAT HE PROJECTS THIS WOULD ADD APPROXIMATELY THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE TO THE TAX BASE.

CURRENTLY, AS MR. GALLO STATED, THE CURRENT COLLECTION IS LESS THAN ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR ON THIS 90 ACRES.

WELL, I'D NEED TO SEE SOME PROJECTIONS IN WRITING TO CONFIRM ANY OF THAT.

THIS IS AGAIN RELAYED FROM THE DEVELOPER.

HE'S ALSO PROPOSING BOAT AND RV STORAGE ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS TO PLANNING AND ZONING LAST WEEK, I DID NOT SENSE THAT THERE WAS ANY NEGATIVE FEELING ABOUT IT.

OF COURSE, THEY COULDN'T REALLY COMMENT OR OFFER OPINIONS BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION, JUST AS THIS IS NOT FOR ACTION.

BUT IN EXPLAINING WHAT THE OVERALL GOAL IS, MR. GALLO HAS ALSO STATED THAT HE IS PROPOSING GATEWAY MONUMENTS.

THEY LOOK LIKE WINDMILLS TO KIND OF COMPLIMENT THE NATURE OF THE AREA.

HE WANTS A HOMETOWN FEEL.

AND SO I GUESS IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU GUYS.

SO YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT EXACTLY MR. GALLO IS PROPOSING AND WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO HIM IF THAT'S A PROJECT THAT

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COUNCIL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING MATERIALIZE BY WAY OF ANNEXATION AND PROVISION OF UTILITY SERVICES.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

SO JUST KIND OF READING IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, IT SAID IT WAS EITHER A MANUFACTURED HOME OR A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SUBDIVISION AND A PARK? SO THAT WOULD BE THE PLATTING DIFFERENCE.

SO THE MANUFACTURED HOME PARK IS GOING TO BE PLATTED AS ONE LOT, WHEREAS THE SUBDIVISION WOULD BE SUBDIVIDED.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS IS A RENTAL COMMUNITY, IT WOULD NOT BE SUBDIVIDED INTO INDIVIDUAL LOTS BECAUSE THESE SPACES WOULD BE RENTED AND THE LESSEE WOULD PUT THEIR OWN MANUFACTURED HOME.

SOMETHING I NEGLECTED TO MENTION WAS THE AGE OF THE HOME THAT WILL BE ALLOWED TO COME IN.

MR. GALLO IS PROPOSING NOTHING OLDER THAN 10 YEARS.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S NOTEWORTHY BECAUSE OF AESTHETICS AND MAINTENANCE.

AND MY LAST QUESTION DID I'M SURE STAFF TOLD HIM THE EVENTS THAT TRANSPIRED WITH THE LAST EVENT AND WHAT WAS HIS RESPONSE TO THAT OR EITHER? WELL, HE DID APPRECIATE STAFF'S CANDOR.

I THINK ONE OF THE MOST, ONE OF THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES HERE IS THAT HE IS REQUESTING ANNEXATION.

WE ALSO WORKED WITH HIM ON THE PROPOSED SPACE SIZE.

SO 60 FOOT.

SO HE INCREASED THE SIZE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY THERE'S LESS SPACES NOW.

SO I THINK HE'S BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE GIVEN BASED ON OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN ANGLETON.

SO WE GAVE HIM THE FEED, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK AND THE RESULTS OF THE LAST DEVELOPMENT, THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR KIND OF ROAD 220.

WE TALKED ABOUT.

YOU KNOW ONE OF THE, I THINK ONE OF THE FAILURES OF IT WAS WHAT HE WHAT WAS PROPOSED AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO PUT IN WRITING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARTICULATED THAT TO HIM THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS AN ISSUE.

AND AGAIN, AS LINDSEY SAID, YOU KNOW, HIS LOT SIZE, I THOUGHT IT WAS 40 FOOT, ORIGINALLY.

AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, STRONG COUNCIL FEELING IS 40 FOOT IS NOT GOING TO FLY.

AND SO THAT'S WHEN HE CHANGED AND SAID, HEY, WILL THIS WORK? AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE THINK YOU'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT CAN'T GUARANTEE ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH THE COUNCIL WANTS.

BUT HE DID COME BACK WITH A SECONDARY PROPOSAL, I GUESS I'M ASSUMING WITH THIS AND 60 SQUARE FEET.

OK.

[INAUDIBLE] ADDING THE COMMERCIAL, BOAT, AND RV STORAGE.

RIGHT.

THAT'S ONE WAY THAT HE WAS ABLE TO MAKE THE 60S WORK.

I MET WITH THE GENTLEMAN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

I CAN'T REMEMBER.

I THINK I ASKED HIM ABOUT THIS.

THE CONCRETE STREETS, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

TO CITY STANDARDS.

YEAH.

AND THAT DEFINITELY WAS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT.

AND THEN, I DID ASK HIM ABOUT THIS, IS HE WHERE HE'D HAVE TO PAY A CAP FEE AND HE SAYS HE WAS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT IS? NO, SIR, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DETERMINED THROUGH A CAPACITY ACQUISITION FEES STUDY.

WELL I THINK WE ALREADY HAD THE STUDY DONE OVER THERE.

WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE NUMBER OF UNITS, 199 LOTS BASED OFF THOSE ESUS AND WHAT APPROXIMATELY THAT COST WOULD BE? YEAH, THE IMPACT FEE.

SORRY, NOT CAP FEE.

OK.

I APOLOGIZE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT? AND I'M GOING TO LET JAVI SPEAK TO THAT ONE.

SURE, YEAH.

THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY IT'S JUST OUTSIDE THE IMPACT ZONE FOR THE THREE DAY INDUSTRIAL PARK AREA.

NOT TECHNICALLY.

IT'S, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A PIECE, WELL BECAUSE IT'S OUTSIDE OF IT.

YEAH.

AND YOU CAN POTENTIALLY MOVE IT AS LONG AS THOSE FACILITIES ARE USED WITHIN THAT [INAUDIBLE] WHICH THEY WOULD.

AND IN THIS AREA, JUST TO KNOW AS WELL, SO IT'S OUTSIDE THE LEVY, WHICH WILL PLAY A FURTHER ROLE OF YES, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEVEE.

AND HE'S AWARE OF THAT? I'M SURE HE IS.

HE IS I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.

OK.

HIS COMMENT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WHEN I ASKED HIM ABOUT THAT, WAS THAT'S WHY THIS IS A BETTER PLACE TO PUT IT, BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE THE FRONTAGE ALONG 288 AND THE PARK WILL BE BEHIND THE RIDGE AND WILL BE NESTLED AND HIDDEN AWAY BACK THERE, IS WHAT

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HE'S SAYING.

NOT SHOWING FOR OR AGAINST, JUST COMMENTING ON WHAT WAS SAID.

AND THIS GENTLEMAN ALSO HAS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS, HAVE YOU, ARE YOU INVOLVED WITH THAT ONE THAT'S NORTH OF TOWN? OFF OF 50.

WHICH IS IT? IT'S THE ROAD THAT GOES TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

OFF 45, AND HE'S DOING ANOTHER MOBILE HOME UP THERE, BUT IT'S ACREAGE MOBILE HOME.

IS THAT ONE, TOO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR UTILITIES OR? I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY.

SO WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE'RE LOOKING FOR? THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE.

DO YOU THINK YOU WANT TO MOVE ON WITH THIS OR LOT SIZES TOO SMALL OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME OTHER AMENITIES THAT YOU THINK THEY SHOULD ADD? SO, YES, PRIOR TO MR. GALLO CLOSING ON THE PROPERTY, HE WANTS TO KNOW IF YOU GUYS WOULD BE WILLING TO PLAY BALL .

IF YOU IF YOU LIKE THE PROJECT? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGE? IS THIS A PROJECT THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO EXTEND CITY UTILITIES TO? HE DOES UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE LIMITED WATER CAPACITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN VETTED IN THE TWO MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH MR. GALLO.

SO WHAT WE HOPE TO ACHIEVE TONIGHT IS GETTING FEEDBACK, HEARING YOUR INPUT.

WELL, HE MET THE 60 FOOT LOT SIZE, BUT I EXPRESSED MY CONCERN TO HIM, TOO, THAT THIS IS A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK, BASICALLY, AND WE JUST HAD A, WE JUST GOT THROUGH WITH ANOTHER CONTENTIOUS ONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE STOMACH WAS NOT TO ME, IT WASN'T THERE FOR ANOTHER MOBILE HOME PARK.

THE NEW COMMENT YOU MADE TONIGHT ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF ELDERLY THAT WOULD BE IN HERE, I HADN'T DISCUSSED THAT WITH HIM, SO I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

I WAS NOT AWARE, I'M SORRY.

I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT EITHER UNTIL HE PRESENTED IT TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

IT IS IN OUR PACKET.

IT'S ON PAGE 108.

SO I DID ASK HIM IF HE COULD DO AT LEAST 25 PERCENT BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'M HOPING HE COMES BACK WITH SOMETHING PRETTY CONGRUENT WITH THE CITY'S REQUEST.

IT'S NOT A TYPO, THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS, AND IT'S BLANK.

THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE A LOT OF COMMENTS.

IT WAS BASICALLY HIS PRESENTATION AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

THAT'S HOW I RECALL IT.

NO, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE VERY MUCH FEEDBACK, THEY PROVIDED NO FEEDBACK, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN ACTION ITEM, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A TYPO.

THERE'S NO COMMENTS THERE.

SO WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MUCH DISCUSSION I MEAN WHAT YOU RECALL, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OR JUST HE PRESENTED THAT WAS IT? HE PRESENTED AND THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH IT, HOWEVER.

I WILL SAY PLANNING AND ZONING IS PRETTY FORTHRIGHT WITH US.

THEY DON'T HOLD BACK.

SO IF THEY HAVE AN OPINION ON SOMETHING, THEY USUALLY LET US KNOW.

AND I JUST DIDN'T GET THEIR OPINION ON IT.

SO THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE IT WAS GOING IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.

SO MY PERSONAL FEEDBACK IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WHEN THE FIRST PROJECT WAS PRESENTED TO US.

I MEAN, THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT.

I BALANCE THE IDEA OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH RAISING STANDARDS, SO WE ARE A DICHOTOMY HERE.

ARE WE GOING TO? AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE POORLY DESIGNED, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE IT LOOKS LIKE SOME FORETHOUGHT AND SPACE.

AND HE'S WORKING WITH US.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

I APPRECIATE.

IS THE LOCATION I MEAN, THE LOCATION LOOKS LIKE.

I DON'T MIND IT FOR A TRAILER PARK, DO WE WANT TO EXTEND SERVICES ALL THE WAY OUT HERE OR DO WE WANT TO MAKE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PATROLLING

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THIS AREA, WHICH HOPEFULLY IS NOT BECOME AN ISSUE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT THERE.

IT'S DEFINITELY EXTENDS YOUR COVERAGE AREA.

I THINK WE ALREADY GO TO THE LOVE'S BECAUSE WHEN THERE'S A MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT FOR A LOVE'S, IT'S OURS.

SO, YEAH, WE'RE ALREADY TO GO THERE, WE ALREADY PATROL.

YEAH, BUT THAT'S AN ACCIDENT, YOU'RE CALLED OUT TO AN EMERGENCY SPEAKERS] THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO SEND AN OFFICER OUT THERE, AT LEAST, PERIODICALLY AND PROBABLY CLOSE PATROL I KNOW WHICH I TALKED TO THE CHIEF HERE.

AND EMS AND FIRE READY, THAT'S THEIR ETJ, SO THEY WON'T EVEN RESPOND.

SHOULD ANYTHING EVEN BE THERE, THEY WON'T REALLY RESPOND TO THAT.

SORRY, IT'S JUST, I'M TRYING TO CREATE A COLUMN, TWO COLUMNS, IF YOU WOULD.

AND SO.

I GUESS I JUST DON'T HAVE THE STOMACH FOR A MANUFACTURING HOME SUBDIVISION.

NOTHING PERSONAL.

IN FACT, I THINK THIS IS.

YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN WRITING.

I APPRECIATE IT.

MAYOR? YES? GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT.

THERE REALLY WASN'T ANY COMMENT REALLY FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

THE PRIMARY REASON THAT THIS IS HERE IS BECAUSE DURING OUR SECOND MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER, THE QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WOULD EVEN BE WILLING TO EXTEND SERVICES TO THIS PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S REALLY FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, IS EVERYTHING KIND OF FLOWS FROM THAT.

IF THERE'S NO WILLINGNESS ON THE PART OF THE COUNCIL TO EXTEND SERVICES TO THIS PROPERTY, THEN THERE'S NO REASON TO ANNEX IT.

IF HE'S GOING TO DEVELOP IT, THEN BASICALLY, HE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

BUT THERE'S NO OTHER REGULATION THAT THE CITY HAS IN THE ETJ THAT WOULD CONTROL HOW THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED.

SO THE PRIMARY QUESTION THAT THE STAFF WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME GUIDANCE ON IS, IS THE CITY WILLING TO EXTEND WATER AND SEWER SERVICE TO THIS PROPERTY? BECAUSE IF IT IS, THEN THE NEXT STEP ARE REALLY THE FIRST STEP OF THE PROCESS WOULD THEN BE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY AND HOW TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, JEFF, WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW? WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO SERVICE 190, 200 HOMES? UPSIZE A LINE? IS THERE A LOOP OUT THERE? NO, WE HAVE A 12 INCH WATER LINE RUNNING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE END OF LOVE'S PROPERTY.

RIGHT.

OK.

AND A MANHOLE, LIFT STATION, EVERYTHING'S BEEN PUT IN THERE OFF OF 341, I THINK.

SO IT'S ALL STANDARD TO THAT AREA.

SOME OF THAT WAS CROSS ROAD WAS IN THE IMPACT AREA.

SO IT'S THERE TO FEED THAT.

OK.

QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH DOES IT, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST FOR THE CITY TO RUN TO HIS PROPERTY LINE OR IS HE ON THE HOOK FOR THAT? HE'S ON THE HOOK, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK HE SAID HE WOULD PAY FOR ALL THE UTILITIES LISTED.

AND I SEE HOW WE'RE PUMPED UP.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING OR ARE YOU JUST TRYING TO GET READY IN CASE THERE WAS A QUESTION? GO AHEAD, SIR.

YES? ONE THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION, TOO, IS SO THE LAND USE ASSUMPTION FOR THAT AREA WAS INDUSTRIAL.

THIS WOULD, YOU KNOW, DENSIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR FREE RSU DEMANDS AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.

OH, YEAH.

YEAH.

AND THEN HOW MUCH OF IT WHAT TO EAT UP OF THAT CAPACITY? I MEAN, I HAD TO LOOK INTO IT JUST TO SEE ON THE I THINK IT WAS 199 UNITS VERSUS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE OR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CONNECTION POINTS OR FOR SINKS, RESTROOMS. THERE'S A MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURED HOME ESU EQUAL A REGULAR SLAB? I BELIEVE IT'S DEFINITELY MORE DENSIFIED AND THEN A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.

SO IT WOULD BE AT LEAST ONE SEU MINIMUM.

SO GOOD.

I GUESS THE YOU KNOW, IS THIS THE LAND USE WE WANT? IS THIS WHAT WE WANT IN THIS AREA? WHERE WE HAVE A CAR DEALERSHIP ON ONE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, LOVE'S TRUCK STOP, KUBOTA IN THOSE AREAS RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THAT ONE.

WHAT IS IT? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DO ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER.

DO YOU REMEMBER? .

I GUESS REALLY CANNOT EVEN BE ANNEXED.

THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION, RIGHT? IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE WHIP FOR THE?

[02:55:03]

DOES IT TOUCH, ANY OF THAT PROPERTY TOUCH ANNEXED CURRENT CITY PROPER? CITY LIMITS? NO, IT DOES NOT.

SO HE MAY HAVE TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO ACHIEVE THE CONTIGUITY.

I KNOW HE DOES HAVE A RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE STREET, WHICH, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE NOT ENTIRELY CERTAIN.

WE'RE NOT CERTAIN IF THAT COULD COUNT TOWARD ACHIEVING CONTIGUITY.

AND I THINK THAT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE HOMEWORK.

LIKE HE NEEDS TO DO SOME HOMEWORK AND GO TO THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT WHO MAINTAINS THAT LEVEE AND SEE WHAT THEY REQUIRE TO CROSS THE LEVEE.

I KNOW IT'S, THERE ARE CERTAIN LEVEES THAT I CAN FREEPORT AREA WHERE YOU'RE LIKE BUNCHES OF FEET BELOW IT.

AND BECAUSE THAT'S THE LEVEE THAT MAY EVEN REQUIRE FEMA.

THIS IS A RIVER FLOOD LEVY THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, HURRICANE PROTECTION LEVEES DOWN THERE AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT GUIDELINES.

BECAUSE I THINK IN LOOKING AT THIS, IN OUR DEVELOPMENT MEETING, WE HAD SAID THEY MIGHT POSSIBLY HAVE TO BORE BENEATH THE LEVEE.

NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT THEY WOULD TAKE ON IT, BUT IT MAY BE ON THE DEVELOPER TO DO THAT DUE DILIGENCE.

THAT'LL BE A QUESTION WE POSED TO THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

HONESTLY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND MUCH DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE THE LEVEE.

IT'S JUST TOO COSTLY.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A RULE, YOU KNOW, NOT A HARD, FAST RULE, BUT OUR RULE PRETTY MUCH THAT WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING IS NOT TO GET INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE LEVEE, BUT.

I THINK THEY SHOULD STAY WITH THE RULE.

THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST.

I MEAN, THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE THAT'S ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST ONE IS DENSITY IS A WHOLE LOT LESS.

IT'S LIKE THREE QUARTERS THE SIZE OR QUARTER OF THE SIZE OF THE LAST ONE.

THAT'S ONE THING.

I SEE THAT AND LIKE TRAVIS SAID, IS THE PART ABOUT AFFORDABILITY THAT AT THE TOP THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, FOR 55 ON UP, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A 55 AND UP SENIOR COMPLEX IN THE AREA, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T QUITE SEEN THAT MATERIALIZE JUST YET.

AND OUR POPULATION IS AGING.

THEY'RE GROWING BY [INAUDIBLE]THEY PULLED IT BACK A YEAR AND A HALF.

PEOPLE ARE LIVING AS LONG NOW AS IT WAS BEFORE BEFORE COVID.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER SEE US START ON THE RIGHT FOOT SHOULD THIS COULD BE A POTENTIAL.

WE WENT THROUGH THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS OF ONE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, CONNECTIVITY TO THE CITY.

IF IT'S NOT THERE, IT'S NOT THERE.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

I THINK THERE'S REALLY TWO CENTRAL, THE TWO CENTRAL QUESTIONS ARE CONNECTIVITY FOR ANNEXATION.

AND LIKE CECIL BROUGHT UP, CAN YOU GET THE CITY SERVICES THROUGH THE LEVY? AND THOSE HAVE TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE YOU CAN SAY IS FEASIBLE.

AND I STILL THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT WOULD BE CAPACITY FOR WATER.

THAT'S THE SOURCE WHERE WE WANT TO UTILIZE WHAT WE HAVE AND EACH TIME WE ADD IT, WE'RE LOSING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE.

WE'RE GOING TO USE IT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO FIND ANOTHER SOURCE OR ADDITIONAL WATER.

SO RIGHT NOW AND JOHN TALKED ABOUT A MORATORIUM ON BUILDING RESIDENTIAL.

WELL, I MEAN, SOME POINT WE HOPE TO HAVE THE BARNES GROUP BRING US SOME INDUSTRIAL.

AND SO AT WHAT COST? SO WE COULD HAVE INDUSTRIAL OR WE CAN HAVE THESE HOMES? YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, ALL I'M GETTING AT IS I'M TRYING TO PRESENT THINGS AND THERE'S ALWAYS A COULD BE POSITIVE, COULD BE NEGATIVE, DEPENDING ON HOW WHAT SIDE YOU'RE STANDING ON.

BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE'S A VALUATING AGAINST EACH SIDE.

SO NOT NOT TO DEBATE YOU, BECAUSE.

THAT'S OKAY, I'M NOT TRYING TO DEBATE.

SO I'M NOT TRYING TO COME IN HERE AND I KNOW MY PLACE.

YES.

BUT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ASSETS OF HAVING A COMMUNITY THAT YOU CAN BRING INDUSTRIAL TO IS THAT YOU HAVE HOUSING AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT HOUSING FOR THE RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EMPLOYERS ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR.

I AGREE.

I MEAN, THAT WAS KIND OF MY POINT EARLIER ABOUT TRYING TO MAYBE PRESERVE SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES TO WHERE.

I DON'T KNOW, I THINK WE'RE I JUST [INAUDIBLE].

I TOLD YOU ABOUT MY FEELINGS AND I'LL STAY SILENT.

[03:00:04]

I DON'T SEE THE AD VALOREM TAX GENERATOR OUT THERE, THOUGH.

IF IT'S A RENTAL SITE.

THE VALUE OF THE HOME AND THE PLACE.

YEAH, YOU DON'T TAX A MOBILE HOME, UNLESS IT'S AFFIXED TO A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

YOU GO, IF YOU GO AND RENT A SLOT SOMEPLACE, THERE'S NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY TAX ON THAT HOME THAT'S ON THAT SLOT.

IF YOU GO AND BUY A HOME, THAT'S YOUR HOMESTEAD, THEN IT'S TAXED.

SO THE ONLY VALUE IS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY, LIKE ROADS OR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE .

THE TAX OFF THE RV RENTAL, LIKE THE SALES TAX? [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.

HOW DID, DO YOU KNOW HOW HE CAME UP WITH THIS POTENTIAL THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR? NO, SIR, WE DID NOT COVER THAT IN OUR CONVERSATION OUT THERE.

BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS, HOW DOES THE APARTMENT COMPLEX GET TAXED? I MEAN, IT'S, THEY RENT IT, THEY DON'T OWN.

ABOUT THE VALUE.

WELL, THAT'S BASED OFF OF THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, THE REAL PROPERTY.

WHICH IT'S PART OF? IT'S CONNECTED TO THE? I'M JUST TRYING TO TRYING TO PUT THE TWO TOGETHER TO TRY TO GO WITH THE CORRELATION THAT DOESN'T THE TRAILER GO ON THE PROPERTY ADD TO THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY? AT THAT POINT.

AS IT CONTINUES TO PUT MORE VALUE ON THEIR PROPERTY? NO, NOT ACCORDING TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

NO, SIR, I DON'T MEAN TO CALL ANYBODY OUT, BUT I LOOKED ON THE VARIED MOBILE HOME PARK.

THE VALUE OF THIS TAX DON'T, IT'S NOT INCLUDES NO MOBILE HOME.

IT'S A CERTAIN NUMBER, YOU CAN LOOK IT UP, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THOSE HOMES OUT THERE.

I WAS WONDERING HOW TO GET TAX, HOW TO GET TAX MONEY GENERATED OFF OF A MOBILE HOME RENTAL PARK.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING NO, I WAS JUST THINKING THAT THERE'S NOT PEOPLE JUMPING ON THE TABLE FOR.

THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS, I THINK THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE ANY ANSWER YOU GET ONE.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S EVEN FEASIBLE TO BE DONE.

AND TWO, YOU KNOW, IS THIS REALLY LAND USE IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO ME? IS THIS REALLY WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THIS? I THINK IT'S.

THERE'S, IT'S OUTSIDE THE LEVEE.

I MEAN, THAT IS A MAJOR SHIFT AND CHANGE FOR THIS COUNCIL AND FOR THE CITY.

IT IS ANNEXED ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE LEVEE.

WE'VE ALWAYS SHIED AWAY FROM IT.

WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE PAST, ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, AND WE ALWAYS SAID WE'RE NOT GOING PAST THE LEVEE AND THIS WILL BE A SHIFT.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY INPUT? DOES THAT GIVE YOU SOME? I'M SURE HE CAN WATCH THE VIDEOTAPE AS WELL.

AND I TOLD MR. GALLO THAT THE VIDEO WOULD BE POSTED TONIGHT, SO.

HE CAN GO CLICK ON INDEX NUMBER 11 AT SOME POINT AND GO STRAIGHT TO IT.

YES, SIR.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL MOVE ON.

NUMBER 13, PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE GATEWAY MASTER

[13. Presentation, discussion, and possible action on the Gateway Master Plan presented by Clark Condon. ]

PLAN PRESENTED BY [INAUDIBLE] YES, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE'VE COME, I WILL BE BRIEF AND JASON IS PREPARED TO BE BRIEF AS WELL.

HE HAS SCALED DOWN HIS PRESENTATION WHILE YOU HAVE THE FULL PACKAGE BEFORE YOU AND HE WOULD BE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WE DID START THIS PROJECT SOME TIME AGO.

ONCE WE ADOPTED THE CORPORATE ID PACKAGE, WE MOVED INTO OUR GATEWAY MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND CLARK FOUND AND DEVELOPED SEVERAL SIGN FAMILIES AND PRESENTED DESIGNS TO KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL COMMISSION ON APRIL 26TH, 2021 FOR INPUT.

ON MAY 11TH, STAFF PRESENTED THE SAME PRESENTATION AND COMMENTS FROM KAB TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ADDITIONAL INPUT.

STAFF ALSO HELD A TOWN HALL MEETING ON MAY 24TH, 2021 FOR PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK REVOLVED AROUND THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN AND SIGNAGE FAMILY CONCEPTS AND CAR.

CONDON MADE REVISIONS TO THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN AND SHARED THOSE WITH CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 9, 2021, WITH NO ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.

ON JULY 26TH, 2021, [INAUDIBLE] PRESENTED THE FINAL GATEWAY MASTER PLAN WITH TWO FONT COLOR OPTIONS.

KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL COMMISSION APPROVED THE FINAL GATEWAY PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

BLACK LETTERING ON SIGN TYPES A, B AND E, PURPLE BACKLIGHTING AND FULL SANDSTONE STRUCTURE.

LIGHT APPLICATIONS TO BE DETERMINED FOR SIGN TYPE B AFTER S.H.

288 EXPANSION AND PURPLE LETTERING FOR SIGNS D AND F.

[03:05:04]

CLARK CONDON HAS COMPLETED THE FINAL GATEWAY MASTERPIECE AND IS ENCLOSED FOR REVIEW AND ADOPTION.

AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IS TO APPROVE THE FINAL GATEWAY MASTER PLAN.

AT THIS TIME.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JASON MILLER WITH CLARK CONDON.

I THINK WE'RE JUST KIND OF CLEARING UP SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, JASON.

HEY, JASON, WE DO NOT HAVE AUDIO ON YOU YET.

SO IF YOU'LL HANG TIGHT, WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT IT ON OUR END.

TRY NOW FOR US.

ARE YOU THERE, JASON? THERE WE GO.

YAY, WE CAN HEAR YOU, SIR.

BACK OK, TO FOLLOW UP, MEGHAN.

THANK YOU, MEGAN, FOR THE INTRODUCTION AND THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR HAVING ME BACK.

WHAT YOU SHOULD SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THE COVER OF THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH YOU HAVE THE FULL COPY IN YOUR BOOK, LIKE MEGAN MENTIONED.

THE FIRST COUPLE OF PAGES OF THIS PRESENTATION, I JUST WANT TO SHOW SOME IMAGERY TO KIND OF HELP SUPPORT ALL THE BACKGROUND THAT MEGAN TALKED ABOUT WITH STARTING BACK IN APRIL WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS AGAIN.

BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE IMAGERY OF SOME OF THE VERSIONS THAT WE'VE LOOKED THROUGH THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, THROUGH ALL THE KEV MEETINGS, THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, THE FEEDBACK WE'VE GOTTEN FROM EVERYBODY.

SO THE BOTTOM SHOWS A COUPLE OF THOSE VERSIONS AND THEN SOME OF THE FINAL VERSIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

THIS IS ONE WHERE WE LANDED BEFORE WE HAD THAT FINAL MEETING IN JULY, WHICH WILL GO THROUGH AND SHOW YOU THE FINAL VERSION WITH THE UPDATED GRAPHICS THAT MEGHAN WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.

BUT SINCE APRIL, WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS LIKE MEGHAN TALKED ABOUT AND GOT FEEDBACK FROM AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE COULD.

WE LOOKED AT, I THINK IT WAS OVER LIKE 15 DIFFERENT VERSIONS AND CONCEPTS RELATIVE TO THIS.

SO TO GET TO THIS FINAL CONCEPT.

SO HOPEFULLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT AFTER WE'RE DONE HERE.

WHERE WE STARTED, WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THIS, IS LOOKING AT THE BUILDING BLOCKS FOR THE SIGNAGE FAMILY.

AND WE ALWAYS GO BACK TO LOOKING AT HOW DO WE TIE IT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE HAD SOME DEEMING IMAGERY TO USE SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE FROM THE COMMUNITY, SOME OF THE HISTORY FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND USE THAT AS A BASIS FOR WHAT WERE THE CONTEXT FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE MATERIALITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THROUGHOUT THE SIGNAGE FAMILY THAT COULD BE TIED TO THAT THEME.

SO SOME OF THE MATERIALS LIKE THE STONE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU SEE ON HERE ARE SOME OF THE STONE IS ALREADY BEING USED IN SOME OF THE PARKS LIKE LAKESIDE.

LOOKING AT METALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CAN BE USED THAT ARE WEATHER RESISTANT, THAT KIND OF TIES IT NOT JUST TO THE HISTORY, BUT ALSO WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO IN THE FUTURE.

UTILIZING THE COLOR SCHEME AS WELL AS WE CAN FROM THE BRAND THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT THE LIGHTING ASSOCIATED WITH THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO EVEN IN THE EVENING OR AT NIGHT, THE BRAND AND THE IDENTITY AND THE MARKERS SHOW UP AND THEN REVAMPING A LITTLE BIT ON THE VINYL AND THE BAND PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OF THE SIGNAGE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS SOME OF THE LARGER MONUMENTS OR SOME OF THE LARGER SIGNS MAY HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

SO WE HAVE INCLUDED A LANDSCAPE FAMILY THAT WE COULD USE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE SIGNAGE THAT REALLY GO WITH IT.

THE TOP ROW HERE SHOWS SOME OF THE SMALLER ORNAMENTAL TREES THAT CAN BE USED ASSOCIATED WITH IT TO PROVIDE SOME ORNAMENTAL COLOR, SEASONAL TEXTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN LARGER TREES ON THE BOTTOM, WHICH WE USED FOR BACKDROPS, STREET TREES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD HELP SUPPORT THE IDENTITY AND THE SIGNAGE.

SHRUBS AND GROUND COVER AND ORNAMENTAL GRASSES.

AGAIN, THIS IS ALL ABOUT PROVIDING IDENTITY AND POP AND VISUAL VISUAL APPEAL.

SO PROVIDING THINGS THAT HAVE COLOR, THINGS THAT TIED TO THE THE THE THE BRAND AND THE THEMES OF USING THINGS THAT HAVE THE PURPLES AND THE WHITES.

AND THEN THE ORNAMENTAL GRASSES IS KIND OF REALLY TIE EVERYTHING TO THE COASTAL, THE COASTAL AREA THAT WE'RE IN IN THIS REGION.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THE FINAL ACCEPTED SIGNAGE FAMILY FROM KAB.

AND IF I WALK FROM LEFT TO RIGHT HERE, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS A 20 FOOT HIGH GATEWAY MONUMENTATION.

THIS WOULD BE AT YOUR MAJOR GATEWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS THAT BASE OF STONE, THE STRUCTURE MADE OUT OF METAL TO KEEP IN

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THE HEART CONCEPT AS PART OF THIS.

AND THEN THE WORDS THAT ARE BACKLIT AND THEN THE BACK PIECE OF STONE, LIKE MEGAN MENTIONED, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE ELEVATION AND SIDE ELEVATION OF THAT.

THE LETTER C HERE IS AN UPGRADED VERSION OF YOUR BANNER PROGRAM.

AND YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THE MAPS WE'RE GOING TO SHARE HERE IN A SECOND WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS COULD START AS A PART OF THIS.

SO PART OF THIS FAMILY.

LETTER D IS YOUR MAJOR VEHICULAR DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE.

SO THIS WOULD BE YOUR MAJOR GATEWAY POINTS AS WELL OR MAJOR POINTS OF DECISION MAKING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CARS TO GET THEM TO WHERE WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

LETTER E IS OUR MONUMENTATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR DESTINATIONS OR THINGS LIKE MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, LIKE CITY HALL, FOR EXAMPLE, OR PARKS YOU'LL SEE ON A MAP WE'RE SHOWING WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE CAN POTENTIALLY START THE LOCATIONS FOR THAT.

AND F IS OUR PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IT FOLLOWS THE SAME FAMILY, MOST LIKELY THIS WHOLE FAMILY FOR THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE WOULD MOSTLY START IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY FOLLOW SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU'VE HEARD AND SEEN IN YOUR [INAUDIBLE] CENTER STUDY.

AS AN ALTERNATIVE.

THIS ONE THAT'S LABELED B ON THE FAR RIGHT.

IT'S AT A DIFFERENT SCALE.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A 40 FOOT TALL MONUMENT.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, MEGAN MENTIONED BEFORE IS WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF OF THAT ENTRY GATEWAY SIGNAGE, BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU PUT THESE IN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DO THEM OUT ON THE TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY OR ADJACENT TO A HIGHWAY, THERE MAY BE A NEED TO WHERE YOU HAVE TO SET THAT OFF THE HIGHWAY SOME AND YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM FARTHER AWAY.

SO HAVING A TALLER HEIGHT IS IS REALLY NEEDED.

NOW, THE ISSUE WITH THAT WITH THE TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY IS THEY ONLY ALLOW 20 FOOT HIGH MONUMENTS WITH NAMES ON THEM.

SO YOU HAS TO BE MORE OF A SCULPTURAL ITEM, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE.

SO THAT'S THE ENTIRE FAMILY.

AND NOW I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHERE THEY WOULD FALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS A STARTING POINT.

AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT SOME IMAGERY THAT SHOWS IT IN THE REALITY OF WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE ALL THIS LOOK LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD.

SO THIS FIRST ONE HAS A LOT OF DOTS ON IT, BUT YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT YOUR MAJOR GATEWAYS.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE AT 288 AND THE HIGHWAY 35 BYPASS YOUR COLLECTOR ROADS.

YOU SEE THERE'S AN A AND A D, SO YOU HAVE YOUR GATEWAY IDENTITIES AND THEN YOUR DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE.

AT SOME OF THESE OTHER LOCATIONS LIKE WHERE VALASCO COMES INTO DOWNTOWN OR 288 COMES INTO 35.

THOSE COULD BE ALSO LOOKED AT LOCATIONS WHERE YOU USE THE OTHER IDENTITY MARKER, WHICH IS THE LARGER ONE THAT'S JUST REINFORCING THE BRAND AS IT COMES IN TO THE PROJECT.

THESE RED DOTS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THIS DIAGRAM ARE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT FIRST INITIAL INSTALLATION OF THE BANNER PROGRAM.

SO IT'S A LONG VALASCO, 35 AND THEN THE MAIN STREET THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

THE THINGS THAT ARE LABELED G ON HERE.

SO GOING BACK TO THE CONCEPT OF ALL OF THE EXISTING STAINLESS STEEL HEARTS, WE LABEL LOCATIONS THAT ARE POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR RELOCATING THOSE HEARTS AS PART OF SCULPTURAL IDENTITY FOR THE CITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

YOU COULD DO THEM IN A SINGLE PARK AS A SCULPTURE GARDEN.

YOU COULD DO THEM AS AN IDENTITY PIECE THROUGHOUT ALL DIFFERENT PARKS.

BUT THESE ARE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS WHERE WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL AS WE LOCATED ONE DOWNTOWN THAT YOU CAN USE AS WELL.

OFF TO THE SIDE WE HAVE THE F LOCATED BECAUSE MOST OF THIS PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION AND SIGNAGE.

IS REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN TO START WITH IN YOUR DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, YOU MAY HAVE SOME OF THAT SIGNAGE AT SOME OF YOUR PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR WHERE YOU HAVE THE TOWN CENTER PIECE OF IT.

THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE COULD HAVE LOCATIONS FOR THE DESTINATION SIGNAGE, SO THE LETTER E ON THAT ORIGINAL DIAGRAM.

THIS ONE IS JUST SHOWING CITY FACILITIES.

SO THIS WAS THE STARTING POINT WITH THE LIST THAT WE WORKED WITH STAFF ON TO LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL FIRST LOCATIONS FOR LOCATING THE SIGNAGE RELATIVE TO CITY FACILITIES.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, ALL THOSE THE SAME SIGNAGE TYPE.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY LOCATING THE SIGNS FOR ALL THE PARKS IN THE CITY.

SO THE NEXT FEW IMAGES I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT, WE STARTED TO LOOK AT SOME POTENTIAL TYPICAL OF HOW YOU WOULD INSTALL THESE.

SO THIS WOULD BE SAY ONE OF YOUR COLLECTOR ENTRIES INTO THE INTO THE CITY.

THIS [INAUDIBLE] AND NORTH [INAUDIBLE], FOR EXAMPLE, SO YOU CAN USE THAT CORNER CLIP IN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO LOCATE ONE OF OUR 20 FOOT IDENTITY MARKERS WITH THE WORDS ON IT AND EVERYTHING AND HAVE THE SUPPORTING LANDSCAPE.

SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS YOU KIND OF THE MINIMAL LANDSCAPE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SIGNAGE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW YOU CAN REINFORCE THAT BRAND AS YOU COME INTO THE CITY.

SO THIS IS ON YOUR MORE COLLECTOR ROADS AND THEN THIS NEXT ONE STARTS TO TALK ABOUT A HIGHWAY SCALE.

SO IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN TO 88 AND YOU'RE COMING INTO THE CITY, WE'RE SHOWING FOUR ONE ON EACH CORNER OF THIS OF THOSE SAME 20 FOOT HIGH MONUMENTS.

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BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN SEE NOTICE ON THIS ONE, THEY'RE UP CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY AND THEN THEY'RE SUPPORTED BY LANDSCAPE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A STAND ALONE SIGN OUT IN THE GRASS.

AND THESE NEXT IMAGES START TO SHOW YOU IN MORE DETAIL WHAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE IF YOU INSTALLED THEM, SAY, OUT ON THE HIGHWAY.

SO THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW, LOOKING AT A TYPICAL HIGHWAY INTERSECTION, HIGHWAY OVERPASS, AND YOU HAVE THE FOUR MONUMENTS, MONUMENTS ON EACH CORNER AND THE SUPPORTING LANDSCAPE ON THE SLOPE, A SLOPE, EMBANKMENTS.

THIS IS WHAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE FROM THE INTERSECTION OR THE FEEDER ROAD LEVEL.

AS YOU'RE GOING UNDERNEATH THE OVERPASS, YOU STILL HAVE THE FOUR MONUMENTS.

YOU CAN SEE THEM AND THEY'RE SUPPORTED BY THE LANDSCAPE.

IF YOU'RE ON 288 GOING NORTH OR SOUTH, YOU WOULD HAVE THE MONUMENT STICKING UP ABOVE THE BARRIER WALL.

SO YOU GET YOU GET THE FULL LOOK OF THE THE IDEA OF THE HEART, AS WELL AS THE SIGNAGE AND THE VERBIAGE AND THEN THE SUPPORTING LANDSCAPE BEHIND IT.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY'RE THE BACKDROP OF TREES.

GIVES YOU ON THE FAR PORTION HERE, GIVES YOU THE THE BACKDROP FOR THE SIGNAGE ITSELF.

A CLOSE UP VERSION OF THAT, HOW THAT COULD LOOK AS IT'S MOUNTED ON THE SLOPE AND THEN THE VERSIONS OF THE BACKGROUND.

AND THEN THE BIG THING, THE REASON WHY WE MADE THE BIG SWITCH TO LOOKING AT THE ALL THE ALL THE GRAPHICS ON THESE TO BE BLACK, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE BRAND, THE BLACK IS EXCUSE ME, IS THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE WHEN YOU'RE USING A PURPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAINTED METAL IN THE ENVIRONMENT LIKE THIS IS IT TENDS TO FADE QUICKER AND WE WOULD WANT TO MINIMIZE THE FADING AND THINGS LIKE YOUR MAJOR MONUMENTATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

SO WHAT WE WHAT WE WORKED OUT IS WAY TO ACCENT THIS AS AN EVENING.

YOU WOULD USE A PURPLE LIGHT TO ACCEPT THE WORD SO BACK LIGHT THE WORD ANGLETON WITH A PURPLE LIGHT OR UP LIKE THE STONE WITH A PURPLE ACCENTS.

SO WE'RE USING THE LIGHT AS OUR PURPLE ACCENT AND LETTING THE WORD STANDALONE.

AND THEN HERE'S ANOTHER DIFFERENT VIEW FROM THE OTHER SIDE AS AN EVENING VERSION HAS BEEN LIT UP.

SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT OPTION B, WHICH IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE 20 FOOT OPTION, IS IF WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS FURTHER OUT AWAY FROM THE HIGHWAY.

AND THESE ARE YOUR THESE WOULD BE YOUR LARGE SCULPTURAL IDENTITY PIECES.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS COULD COME IN WHEN YOU HAD AN INTERSECTION THAT GETS REDONE BY TXDOT LIKE TXDOT WAS IN THERE TALKING TONIGHT ABOUT MULTIPLE PROJECTS.

WELL ONE DAY THEY MAY EXPAND 288, MAKE IT VERTICAL WALLS SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'VE DONE NORTH OF YOU.

WELL, THIS COULD BE AN OPTION FOR THAT, WHERE YOU COULD PUT THOSE OUT TOWARDS THE FEEDER ROAD AND STILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT WITH LANDSCAPE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM BOTH THE FEEDER AND FROM THE THE THE THE MAIN LANES.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE THESE ARE SCULPTURAL ITEMS WHERE IT'S JUST THE HEART.

IT DOESN'T HAVE THE WORD ON IT BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE BY TXDOT WORKING IN THERE RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT YOU CAN SEE ON HERE, IT STILL TELLS THE SAME STORY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SIGNAGE FAMILY.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, AS IF YOU WERE ON THE FEED ON THE HIGHWAY, YOU WOULD SEE THE HEART JUST ABOVE THE THE THE BARE WALLS.

AND THEN FROM THE FEEDER ROADS, YOU WOULD SEE IT AS WAY THE SAME WAY AND THEY WOULD ALL BE LIT UP THE SAME WAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

AND YOU SEE THIS TYPICALLY YOU IF YOU'VE DRIVEN THROUGH SUGARLAND, THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR KIND OF THING.

YOU SEE THAT THING STICKING UP JUST ABOVE THE BARRIER IS A VERY SIMILAR LOOK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE OF WHAT YOU WOULD SEE ON THE FREEWAY FOR THAT VERSION.

FOR THE DESTINATION SIGNAGE, WHERE WE TOOK A LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, USING CITY HALL AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS SHOWS ENHANCING THAT WHOLE FRONTAGE OF THE CITY HALL ALONG WITH THE NEW SIGNAGE.

THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW WE CAN LAY THAT OUT.

AND THEN THE NEXT VERSION SHOWS IF WE TOOK THAT SAME STREETSCAPE OFF THE STREET VIEW RIGHT NOW, IT STARTED TO POPULATE THAT WITH OUR CITY HALL SIGNAGE AND THE LANDSCAPE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

ENHANCED BANNERS THROUGHOUT THIS DOWNTOWN AREA EVEN GOING DOWN TO UPGRADE STREET SIGNS THROUGHOUT AND THEN EVEN IN YOUR DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, HOW THAT COULD FIT INTO THE LANDSCAPE OF THE STREET.

AND THE LAST IMAGE WE HAVE IS ANOTHER VERSION OF THAT.

IT'S JUST LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT VIEW.

BUT YOU CAN START TO SEE HOW THE POPULATION OF OF THE THE BRANDING AND THE SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE STREETSCAPE STARTS TO LIVEN UP THE THE STREETSCAPE ITSELF AND THEN THE ENHANCEMENT OF ADDING, PLANTING OR WIDER SIDEWALKS, WHICH YOU GUYS MENTIONED EARLIER, TALKING WITH TXDOT ABOUT THAT WILL ALL JUST ENHANCE THE WHOLE REPETITION OF

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THEME AND BRAND AND CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, HOPEFULLY I GOT THAT DONE QUICK ENOUGH FOR YOU, BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

JASON MS. MEGAN, STAFF COUNCIL QUESTIONS ? WELL, I DON'T WANT TO BOGGED DOWN AGAIN, BUT I JUST SAY IT BECAUSE IT'S ON MY MIND, THE SIGNAGE, THE ANGLETON SEEMS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FONT THAT WE'VE USED TO REBRAND THE CITY.

BUT THE A IS STILL A BLOCK A AND NOT THE SCRIPT A.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A REASON FOR THAT.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BECAUSE WE USE THE [INAUDIBLE], ALL THE REST OF THE FONT SEEMS TO BE THAT MORE BLOCK STYLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL THAT FONT, BUT THEN IN OUR WHEN WE DID THE BRANDING, WE ADDED THAT KIND OF A SCRIPT A.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE WOULD THAT WOULD BE REPEATED.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL THE THING I HAD AND THAT'S REALLY NOT TERRIBLY IMPORTANT.

BUT, ANYWAY, JUST [INAUDIBLE].

I DO LIKE THE POP, IF YOU WILL, OR THE EYE PRESENCE.

AND I'VE NOTICED SOME OF THIS MONUMENTATION GOING ON IN OTHER CITIES.

I KNOW WHEN I'VE GONE TO DALLAS, MIDLOTHIAN, I'M GOING UP THAT HIGHWAY.

ALL THOSE CITIES ARE STARTING TO DO ALONG THIS TO REALLY CURB APPEAL THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND SO I DO LIKE I LIKE PURPLE, I LIKE THE BACKLIGHTING, LIKE THE BANNERIN, KUDOS TO THE GROUP.

AND OUR DESIGN TEAMS THAT WORKED WITH YOU GUYS.

I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY COOL.

I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S A HEFTY PRICE TAG.

SO IF YOU WANT TO TACKLE THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S EVEN YOU KNOW, IS THIS A CADILLAC BUDGET AND WE'RE RIGHT NOW AT ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, FORD FESTIVA RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT FIGURE ALL THAT OUT, BUT.

I WILL SAY THAT AND I HAVE TALKED TO SOME FOLKS AND VENDORS TO GET A JUST PRICE QUOTE ON WHAT THEY THINK SOME OF THE BASED ON THE SIGN FAMILY THAT IS ON THIS CURRENT SLIDE.

AND I THINK WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THE PRICING DOWN PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND SO OR AT LEAST THAT IS OUR HOPE.

AND SO IF IF WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADOPTION OF THIS PLAN, WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT COMING.

AND I LIKE THE IDEA BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON 288.

I SAW THE TRAFFIC COUNT FROM SOMETHING I GOT FROM MARK THE OTHER DAY.

GUYS MAYBE EVEN SEND IT TO THE GUYS.

THAT TRAFFIC ON 288 EVERY DAY, WHETHER IT'S A WEEKDAY WEEKEND, IS PHENOMENAL.

AND THEY CAPTURE JUST A HANDFUL OF THOSE PEOPLE TO BUY GAS, EAT AT A RESTAURANT, FORGET SOME OF THEY NEEDED TO GET BEFORE THEY GET TO THE BEACH.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW.

I MEAN, THAT MAY GET THE NEW RESIDENT WHO JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN THE AREA JUST THE CURB APPEAL.

I GUESS, YOU KNOW, LETS PEOPLE SAY, OH, LET'S PULL IN THERE, JUST JUST THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.

YEAH.

ONE COMMENT ON THE PRICING EXERCISE.

SO WHAT WE DID FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES FOR THIS SO THAT YOU GUYS COULD BUDGET PROPERLY IS THAT WE LOOKED AT THESE AND HAD VENDORS LOOK AT THEM AS A SINGLE PURCHASE AND INSTALL.

SO LIKE IT'S ONLY BUYING ONE AND DOING IT.

SO OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU BUY ONE OR TWO ONE, IT'S A LARGER COST BECAUSE IF YOU ADD THAT UP, IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY ECONOMY OF SCALE.

SO IF YOU HAD ALL THE BANNERS, IF YOU DID ONE HUNDRED BANNERS, OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT PRICE IS GOING TO COME DOWN.

SO THINK OF IT THAT WAY.

IT'S A MAJOR THING FOR BUDGETING WHAT'S IN THAT PACKET, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A FUTURE, YOU KNOW, PHASING THING.

SURE.

BUT THE KEY IS, LIKE MEGAN SAID, IF YOU DO A FEW OF THESE, YOUR PRICING IS GOING TO COME DOWN BASED ON ECONOMY OF SCALE.

BULK BUYING.

I GET IT.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

SO IS THERE A POINT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? YES.

SO [INAUDIBLE] AT OUR LAST MEETING, THEY'RE THE GROUP, OBVIOUSLY, THAT HAS BUDGETED FOR THIS PROJECT.

IT IS A BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT FOR THE CITY THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2019 THAT INITIATED WITH THE BRANDING AND WHICH LED US TO THE CORPORATE ID PACKAGE AND NOW THIS GATEWAY SIGN.

SO MASTER PLAN, RATHER.

AND SO AT THEIR LAST MEETING, THEY HAVE RESOLVED, IF YOU WILL, THAT THIS IS THEY ARE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH, WITH THE PUBLIC INPUT FROM TOWN HALL MEETINGS, STATE INITIATING OR REQUESTING STAKEHOLDERS TO COME, RECEIVING FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL AT A MEETING.

AND THEN ALSO OUR MOST RECENT PLAN, SENDING IT FOR FEEDBACK AND COMMENT.

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THEY HAD SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES ON THAT LAST PRESENTATION IN MEETING WE HAVE WITH THEM.

AND THIS WAS THE FINAL THAT THEY HAVE APPROVED AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR YOU ALL FOR TONIGHT.

SO TONIGHT, LIKE I MENTIONED, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN STARTING WITH ITEMS LIKE THE BANNER PROGRAM OR EVEN ONE PROJECT THAT MARTHA AND I ARE WORKING ON IS THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND TRYING TO FIND DOLLARS FOR SIGNAGE OUT OF THAT FACILITY, STARTING JUST ONE ONE FACILITY OR WHATEVER WE CAN MANAGE AS THE BUDGET ALLOWS US TO, BUT WE WANT TO DO THAT IN A WAY THAT ALIGNS WITH WHATEVER GATEWAY MASTER PLAN OR SIGNAGE FAMILY WE ADOPT.

WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND FUNDS ON TEMPORARY SIGNS OR PUT UP SIGNS THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH OUR BRAND AND ALSO WHATEVER PLAN WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAN.

SO THAT'S WHAT SCARES ME.

WHAT'S THAT? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE PRESENTATION AS IT IS AND THE THE DESIGN AND, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND THAT I THOUGHT WE'D ASK FOR THE OTHER A, NOT THE BLOCK LETTERING.

BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT IS THAT WE SAY YES AND IT MOVES US FORWARD INTO SPENDING MORE MONEY ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT TO ME I WOULD BE SIGNING UP FOR.

I WOULD BE SAYING THAT WE'RE SIGNING UP, THAT THIS WOULD BE THE WAY WE WOULD GO IN THE FUTURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING FULL STEAM INTO THE.

NO.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING.

WE THIS IS JUST LIKE WE HAVE FOR OUR MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN FOR PARKS.

AS MONEY ARISES, WE'RE ADDRESSING THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OUT IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

THIS IS PROVIDING YOU A TOOL FOR WHEN THOSE FUNDS ARISE.

FOR INSTANCE, LAKESIDE PARK, WE HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT JUST PLUGGED IN FOR OUR OUR SIGNAGE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SIGNAGE NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SIGNAGE TODAY, WE HAVE INCONSISTENT SIGNAGE AT OUR PARKS AND.

YEAH.

THERE.

THAT TO ME IS NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON.

I LIKE THE THE PURPLE STREET SIGNS.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY START MOVING FORWARD WITH.

I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WE COULD PROBABLY PLUG AWAY FROM HERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE US SADDLE OURSELVES WITH.

OK, WELL NOW WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS IN SIGNAGE AND WE START TACKLING SIGNS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE JUST ADOPTED.

TO ME, IT'S KIND OF A ROADMAP TO GO FORWARD.

AND AS WE LAKESIDE, WE REPLACE THAT SIGNAGE OR WE REPLACE A STREET SIGN, WE REPLACE AND GO WITH THE NEW SIGNAGE.

AND BUT I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO SIGN UP FOR.

OK, WELL, NOW WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TACKLE, YOU KNOW, TWO MILLION DOLLARS OF HIGHWAY SIGNAGE AND AND GO FORWARD FROM THERE.

AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

I DON'T WANT TO MISCONSTRUE CONSTRUE THE OBJECTION.

IT IS JUST TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY DOES ARISE, WE CAN.

SO.

WE'RE ADOPTING A PLAN.

RIGHT.

NOT.

NOT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, NOT A STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE'RE NOT WE HAVE NOT THIS IS NOT IN THE CIP.

THIS IS.

WE'RE ADOPTING IT, NOT IMPLEMENTING IT.

RIGHT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES A WELL, I GUESS TO GO BACK ON THAT WE WOULD BE IMPLEMENTING IT AS FUNDS ARISE.

SO IF WE REDEVELOP THE MUNICIPAL POOL OR VETERAN'S PARK, WE DON'T HAVE SIGNAGE OUT THERE.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO INSTITUTE AND HAVE CONSISTENCY WITH THE BRAND THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH THE BRANDING PIECE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T GONE HOG WILD AND AND CONVERTED EVERYTHING OVER TO THE THE NEW LOGO.

WE'RE AS WE GET NEW VEHICLES, THOSE GET CONVERTED.

AS THINGS HAPPEN, WE GET BUSINESS CARDS THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOVING SLOWLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE THE WATER BILL I GOT THE OTHER DAY.

MY HOUSE HAS THE OLD LOGO ON IT.

AND SO ONCE WE USE ALL THOSE ENVELOPES AND REORDER, THEY'LL HAVE THE NEW LOGO ON IT.

SO JUST DISCUSSION.

I'M OK WITH THE PLAN.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE THE PLAN AS THE MONEY AND OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF, MAKING A MOTION TO SEEK TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

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I CAN'T PRIORITIZE THAT.

AND LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, MARTHA AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER VENDORS FOR.

OH, THAT'S FINE.

I'M JUST SAYING, IF IT'S BETWEEN TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR SIGN AND TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR A WATER PLAN, I'M GOING TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE WATER PLAN.

AUTHORITY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE PRESENTED TO YOU WHEN IT GETS TO THAT PRICE POINT ANYWAY, SO.

RIGHT.

I'M JUST BUT IF IT'S JUST THIS IS THE PLAN AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S ADOPTED AND YOU'RE GOING TO SLOWLY IMPLEMENT IT AS OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

AND THE BIG THE BIG TICKET ITEMS UP THERE IS A CONCERN THAT'S THAT'S WELL, WHERE I AM.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD MENTIONED TO KAB ALSO WAS THE LIKELIHOOD OF US ACTUALLY WORKING BACKWARDS.

SO MEANING WE HAVE SOME OF THE ANTIQUE STREET LIGHTS ALREADY.

LET'S ASSESS WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO UPDATE BANNERS.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE ON GRADUALLY? OR LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THE STREET SIGNS, HOW HOW EFFICIENTLY COULD WE DO THAT AND INSTITUTING THINGS LIKE THE SIGNAGE AT LAKESIDE PARK AND SO THAT THIS AGAIN, TOO, IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS, LIKE I MENTIONED, THAT IS KAB RELATED.

SO IT COULD BE AS FUNDS ARISE FOR KAB, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEIR FUND RESERVE BUILDS UP, CAN THEY INSTITUTE SOME OF THESE SIGN PROJECTS? ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

ANOTHER OPTION IS, YOU KNOW, GRANTS THAT WE GET THROUGH TXDOT.

SO THOSE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER AS WELL.

SO.

THIS IS ALL VERY PRETTY.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST STRAIGHT UP THE LIGHTING AT THESE MONUMENTS.

WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE SOLAR POWERED? WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY DESIGNED THE SIGNS SO.

[INAUDIBLE] GOING TO SOLAR POWERED LIGHTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RUN A POWER LINE OUT THERE.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND SO I KNOW THAT, JASON, MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THERE WAS LED LIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD BE POWERED.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY ONES THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE POWER WOULD BE THE LARGE IDENTITY MARKERS AND ONLY SOME OF THE DESTINATION SIGNS THAT WOULD REQUIRE, LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF CITY HALL REQUIRES THE LIGHTING OR NOT, BUT MOST OF THE SIGNS DON'T HAVE LIGHTING OTHER THAN THE IDENTITY MARKERS, AND IT WOULD BE POWERED, NOT SOLAR.

AND ITEMS TO THINK ABOUT ARE THESE BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS AND STUFF.

THEY DON'T STAY BEAUTIFUL UNLESS YOU DEDICATE SEVERAL PEOPLE TO IT, WHICH MEANS HIRING A BUNCH MORE FOLKS TO COME TEND TO ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU DO [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THE 288 FREEWAY AT 35, BUT IT'S GONE.

I'M NOT I'M NOT A FAN OF PAMPAS GRASS, THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT WAS UP THERE, BUT SOMEBODY SOMEBODY SPENDING MONEY TO PUT PAMPAS GRASS UP THERE AND THEN SOMEBODY SPENT MONEY TO KILL IT AND GET RID OF IT.

SO.

GO AHEAD, COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER TOO.

SEND YOU A POSTCARD.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I'M THINKING IS IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS CREATE A BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY WHEN AND IF THE FUNDS AND THE OPPORTUNITY ARISE.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING THAT? AND I THINK THAT AS A CITIZEN, I THINK THAT'S REALLY COOL.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL THINGS.

NO, I MEAN, ANGLETON COULD USE SOME EDIFICATION.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL PUTTING THOUGHT AND IDEAS TOWARDS IT.

I REALLY DO.

YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS.

I'M SURE THERE'S ACTUALLY A PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECT WHEN YOU IF YOU AS YOU TAKE CARE OF THINGS AND IT JUST KIND OF HAS A WAY TO BRIGHTEN THINGS UP IN THE WAY YOU PERCEIVE YOUR CITY AND HOW, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE IN A POSITIVE LIGHT.

BUT, I KEEP SAYING I'M COOL WITH THE PLAN.

YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.

AND I JUST LIKE I SAID, JUST THE BIG TICKET ITEMS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE.

WHEN I SAY GO WITH IT, I MEAN, GO WITH THE PLAN, UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW.

WE HAVE LIMITED DOLLARS AND.

[03:35:02]

RIGHT, IT'S JUST IT'S ALL I'M GETTING AT.

AND I THINK I THINK I'M MAKING MYSELF CLEAR AND PROBABLY REPEATING MYSELF TOO MUCH.

NEXT TIME.

SO SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS AN ACTION ITEM ON THE PLAN.

I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SOME DIRECTION ON FUNDING.

JUST GOT TO TRY TO NOW HAVE A PLAN AND THEN HAVE A PLAN OF ACTION FOR FUNDING FOR FUTURE, COUNCIL.

WHAT IS Y'ALLS PLEASURE? MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN PRESENTED BY CLARK CONDON.

THE YEAH, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE THAT MOTION.

SECOND.

SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, WITH YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T SADDLING US TO START DOING MORE PROJECTS.

AND RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST AS FUNDS ARE PERMITTED, PREFERABLY FROM KAB THAN WE MOVE FORWARD.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF START MOVING WITH THE PURPLE SIGNS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE NICE.

OR EVEN THE PURPLE BANNERS.

I MEAN, YOU JUST GET THE BANNERS.

I MEAN, WE HAVE THE STRUCTURES IN PLACE.

IT'S A MATTER OF JUST REPLACING A BANNER.

YEAH.

AND I GUESS WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE SCRIPT AT THIS POINT.

I'M JUST ONE PERSON.

SO IF EVERYBODY ELSE WAS ON BOARD WITH THE BLOCK A, THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO MATCH OUR BRANDING.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT ON.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO ROCK THAT BOAT.

I JUST WAS TELLING YOU MY OPINION.

AND JASON, MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT A BIT.

BUT I THINK BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE EXACT LOGO, IF YOU WILL.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE LOGO VERTICAL.

YOU'RE BRINGING OUT THE HEART.

IT IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE THE GROUP KIND OF FOREWARNED WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THE CORPORATE ID PACKAGES THAT WHEN YOU INSTITUTE OR YOU PUT IT ON A SIGNAGE FAMILY, IT COULD CHANGE SO THAT IT MAKES SENSE.

IT'S LEGIBLE AS YOU'RE DRIVING BY.

AND SO.

THAT'S ALL I MEAN, I GUESS MAYBE THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN MY MIND.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DOING THE BRANDING.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTERNATION OVER THAT ISSUE.

I REALLY LIKE THAT WHAT WE ENDED UP RESOLVED.

I MEAN, WHEN I SEE IT ON THE CITY VEHICLES, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC WORKS OR WHATEVER ELSE IS ROLLING AROUND TOWN, I THINK IT LOOKS SHARP PERSONALLY.

UNDERSTATED, BUT CLASSY.

AND I JUST THOUGHT, IT SEEMS TO APPEAR THE SAME OR SIMILAR FONT.

THAT'S THE N G L E T O N.

SO I THINK THE DOG AGREES.

YOU COULD EASILY PUT THIS.

[LAUGHTER] I THINK YOU COULD EASILY PUT THE SCRIPT A ON THERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEFT SIDE, IF YOU MOVE ANGLETON TO THE RIGHT.

BUT.

THE ISSUE GUYS IS, IS SO THAT'S THAT EVERYTHING FONT WISE IS THE BRANDING FONT.

THE ISSUE COMES IN IS WHEN YOU START USING SOME OF THOSE LETTERS LIKE THAT, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WORK IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL TRAFFIC WORLD LIKE THIS.

SO IF YOU START ADDING THAT IN, I DON'T THINK IT WORKS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU START DOING THINGS LIKE VERTICAL, LIKE WE'RE SHOWING ON THIS PLAN.

SO WE WE WE LOOKED AT AND TALKED ABOUT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THIS STUFF.

SO, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK VERY WELL.

THAT SCRIPT A DOESN'T REALLY WORK VERY WELL IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL GRAPHIC WORLD LIKE THIS .

ONE.

JUST AN IDEA JUST DAWNED ON ME.

DO WE WORRY ABOUT THAT SAND COLOR, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON ESPECIALLY IF YOU PUT IT NEAR THE THE THE PASSING 288, THERE'S A LOT OF SMOG AND SMOKE AND WHATEVER ELSE COMES OUT OF VEHICLES PLUS.

AND JUST SAYING IT'S WHITE AND YOU'D HAVE TO CLEAN IT.

DOES THAT IS THAT EASY TO CLEAN? IS THAT OR DOES IT START TO BECOME A DULL GRAY OR A GREENISH HUE OR TAKE ON ALGAE OR? IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO HAVE TO MAINTAIN.

I MEAN, JUST LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER SIGNS THAT WE CONSIDERED, LIKE JASON MENTIONED, WE HAD ABOUT 15 SIGN FAMILIES OR SO THAT WE WHITTLED DOWN AND ALL CAME WITH SOME SORT OF MAINTENANCE.

SO I WILL SAY THAT WE DISCUSSED POWER WASHING.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL LIKELY HAVE TO DO.

I'M JUST IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IT.

I DIDN'T KNOW JASON THEM ARE THE PROFESSIONALS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT CECIL SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE MAINTENANCE

[03:40:05]

THAT, YOU KNOW, WE END UP TAKING ON.

AND PROBABLY SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS WITH STEPHEN F.

AUSTIN, WHO HAS TO PERIODICALLY BE POWER WASHED OR PRESSURE WASHED OR WHATEVER.

RIGHT.

AND I WILL SAY, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE LARGE MONUMENTATION I DON'T FORESEE THAT HAPPENING FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THOSE IN PARTICULAR.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE CURRENTLY MAINTAIN OUR PARK SIGNAGE.

I CAN SPEAK TO OUR PARK SIGNAGE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO AND IS IN OUR WORKLOAD CURRENTLY.

YEAH, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE [INAUDIBLE] AND THE PLAN THAT THE TWO LARGE IDENTITY MARKERS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE STONE, THE REST OF THEM ARE METAL, METAL PANELS.

ON THE STONE THOUGH WHEN WE DO SELECT THE ACTUAL MATERIAL, THINGS COME INTO PLAY THAT HELP, HELP WITH MAINTENANCE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE THE FINISH ON THE STONE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WILL MAKE IT EASY TO CLEAN THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO INSPECT MATERIAL, ACTUAL MATERIALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INCREASED MAINTENANCE.

THESE ARE GOING TO BE TRY TO BE BULLETPROOF AND EASILY MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND CLEAN EVERY DAY.

OK, ANY MORE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE CALL FOR THE VOTE? THEN, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MOVING ON, NUMBER 14, UPDATE ON SOLAR STREET LIGHT PROJECT UPDATE.

[14. Update on the solar street light project.]

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD NEWS.

I JUST WANTED TO COME AND SHARE WITH YOU THAT OUR SOLAR LIGHT INITIATIVE IS WELL UNDERWAY.

WE'VE GOT THREE STREETS COMPLETED AND WE'RE READY TO FINISH ANOTHER ONE, THE HOUSTON STREET IS NEXT.

AND THIS WILL BE THE LAST SET OF LIGHTS FROM THE ORIGINAL ORDER.

BUT THAT'S OK.

WE HAVE A PLAN.

STAFF'S WORKED HARD.

COUNCIL HAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THAT WE LIGHT BAYOU STREET AND [INAUDIBLE] WAY STREET.

WE ARE READY TO PROCEED WITH BAYOU STREET WITH FUNDS ALREADY IDENTIFIED OUT OF THE CARES ACT BUDGET OF EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

WE'RE GOING TO ORDER TWENTY FIVE AND MAY USE THREE OF THEM AT THE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO VETERAN'S PARK.

AND WE'VE BEEN IN SOME CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT THAT.

SO HAS ANYONE, HAD ANYONE.

HAVE YOU ALL HAD ANYONE.

SORRY, I'M JUST TIRED.

WHY? WE DO.

WE'VE GOTTEN A FEW CALLS.

WE'VE GOTTEN A LETTER.

FRANCIS HAS PUT A FORM TOGETHER THAT I'M GOING TO COLLECT.

IF WE GET THOSE KINDS OF INQUIRIES, WE'LL NEED TO GET STREET SIGNATURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT ALSO WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL ABOUT ADDITIONAL STREETS GOING FORWARD.

WITH LIVE OAK.

WE IS NOW IN OUR IN OUR SIGHTS FOR FIFTEEN LIGHTS.

THEY DO HAVE SOME STREET LIGHTS OVER THERE, BUT THERE ARE LIGHTING GAPS IN THIS IS A CRIME PREVENTION MEASURE.

WE'RE WORKING WITH SERGEANT VANDERGRIFF IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HELP US KNOW WHAT THE MOST SENSITIVE AREAS ARE.

SO THAT'S.

SO FIRST, IT'S BASTROP STREET, I ASSUME NOT BAYOU STREET, BASTROP BEHIND I WAS A LITTLE THROWN BY THAT.

THANK YOU.

I WAS THROWN MYSELF, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU WHERE THAT STREET WAS.

I [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN I WAS ALSO TOLD SOUTH SIDE DRIVE IS NOT COMPLETE IS WHAT I'M BEING TOLD BY.

I'M BEING TOLD IT IS COMPLETE.

IT'S DONE.

SO IT GOES ALL THE WAY? AND THEY'RE ALL INSTALLED AND ALL WORKING? FOR THE ONE FOR THE TREE.

AND, YOU KNOW, MY THING IS I FEEL LIKE WE'VE WE'VE HIT QUITE A FEW STREETS OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN, ON THE NORTH SIDE.

WE NEED TO BE VERY ADEQUATE OF MAKING SURE THAT THE WEST AND THE SOUTH ARE GETTING THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE JUST SOUTH SIDE DRIVE.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE ALONG EITHER DWYER OR GOING ALONG.

I MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS [INAUDIBLE].

BUT BEING THAT WHERE IT'S LOCATED, I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY THAT WOULD BE TO PUT

[03:45:01]

THOSE DOWN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE, EITHER ADDRESSING [INAUDIBLE] CEMETERY OR SHANKS OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD JUST FOR PASSAGE.

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I GET COMMENTS ALL THE TIME.

I WANT MY STREET NEXT.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

YOU CAN'T GO WRONG, EVERYONE.

YOU KNOW, THE OLD SIDE OF TOWN WITH THE RICHMOND CHEVY CHASE AND ALL THAT I THINK ARE WARRANTED SOUTH HAMPTON IN WIMBERLEY.

BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO COME AS WE FIX THOSE ROADS OVER THERE AND GO THROUGH.

WHAT ABOUT WALKER STREET? NORTH? OK.

WELL, I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE DRIVEN DOWN RICHMOND STREET, IT LOOKS AWESOME.

WELL, [INAUDIBLE].

JUST AS A GENERAL KIND OF KIND OF REPEATING MYSELF, BUT WHEN IT'S ALONG WITH JOHN'S TALKED ABOUT THAT, WHEN WE HAVE THOSE STREETS AND IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO GET LIGHTING ON THOSE STREETS, IT REALLY REVITALIZES THE STREETS.

AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OLDER PARTS OF TOWN, THERE'S CHANCES TO MAKE NICE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING SO THAT THEY CONTINUE TO BE NICE LIVING AREAS FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, NOT JUST THE PAST 50 YEARS.

SO.

I THINK WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS I'VE GOTTEN I'VE MADE NOTE OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF CITIZEN INQUIRIES.

IT'S MAYBE SOMETIME IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE, PUT A REAL PLAN TOGETHER FOR FUTURE LOCATIONS AND THEN PRESENT IT TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL AND COMMENT.

IF THAT WOULD BE OK.

YES, IT WOULD BE.

CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? SO THE STREET LIGHT IN YOUR POCKET IS ALSO BEING USED BY [INAUDIBLE] GREEN.

WE GOT THEM INTERESTED IN SOLAR LIGHTS.

IT'S THE BETTER OF YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT LIGHTS AT FREEDOM PARK.

WE'VE GOT THE ONES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING ON THE STREETS.

WE'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES.

IT'S GOT A 15 YEAR WARRANTY.

THE OTHER PART IS THE SOLAR PANELS ARE ON THE SIDE AND ALL THAT.

SO IT'S LESS PROTRUDING AT THE TOP.

WE'VE LOOKED AT THE PROJECTION AND SO IT'S THE BEST.

IT'S THE BEST.

AND IT COMES OUT THAT'S KIND OF THE SAME COST WHEN YOU ADD THE LOWER COST OF THE CONCRETE BASE VERSUS WHAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY DOING NOW.

AND SO, AGAIN, IS WAY FORWARD TO STANDARDIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THAT'S THE LIGHT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

AND IT'S VERY CLEAN AND PROFESSIONAL AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT CEMETERY WOULD BE REALLY GOOD.

I THINK THEY'RE INTERESTING, TOO, BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT YOU CAN PUT A CAMERA ON, YOU KNOW, A SURVEILLANCE CAMERA IF YOU WANT TO PUT ONE ON A ON A LIGHT POLE IN A IN AN AREA THEY'RE WATCHING FOR CRIME.

YOU CAN PUT A LIGHT ON BOTH SIDES OF IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AT THE ENTRANCE OF [INAUDIBLE] GREEN IS IT'LL BE A POLE WITH TWO SIDES.

SO THERE'S YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE BLUETOOTH.

YOU CAN OPERATE THEM FROM A PHONE, A DESIGNATED PHONE.

AND SO THEY'RE EASIER TO MAINTAIN, EASIER TO INSTALL.

JUST THINK IT'S A GOOD SOLUTION.

THE ONES ON DALLAS HOW LONG THEY'VE BEENYES, SIX OR SEVEN.

AND HOW ARE THEY DOING? NO COMPLAINTS.

THEY'RE STILL WORKING.

THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW, IS THAT SOME OF THESE NEWER THESE OTHER STREETS THAT ARE ON MY MIND, I'VE HAD A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR, ARE VERY THEY HAVE A LOT OF CANOPY TO THEM AND JUST I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.

WELL, WE'RE WORKING WITH [INAUDIBLE] TO ACTUALLY WORK FOR THE PLACEMENT, AND HE'S CREATING MAPS FOR US.

HE'S ALSO IDENTIFIES WHERE UTILITY LINES ARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WHEN THE GUYS AT PUBLIC WORKS GO OUT TO INSTALL THEM, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO PLACE THEM.

THEY ALSO KNOW THAT IF THERE IS A BIG TREE OR SOMETHING IN THERE, THEY CAN ADJUST IT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT WE TRY TO BE AS CAREFUL ABOUT THAT AS WE CAN TO MAKE BEST USE OF THE LIGHTS AND NOT, YOU KNOW, AND NOT WASTE ONE UNDERNEATH THE LIGHT.

YEAH, BE CONSISTENT WITH IT.

I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR EIGHT THOUSAND FOR THE TWENTY FIVE

[03:50:02]

RIGHT? WELL, THE TWENTY FIVE IS GOING TO COST EIGHTY THOUSAND, BUT THE EIGHTY THOUSAND HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

AND THAT'S FINE.

YES.

WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO, WHAT? THIRTY TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS? YEAH.

AND A LITTLE BIT EXTRA FOR SOME WORK AT THE BASE.

AND THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S GREAT.

ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO THE MONUMENTAL SIGNS OF WERE PRICE OUT OF SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS OVER 6000, WHICH IS.

THE PRICE IS WHAT IT IS.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT PRICE DOWN, BUT IN COMPARISON.

IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

SO, JOHN, WE'LL BE BACK FOR AMERICA'S RECOVERY PLAN WHEN WE GET THAT FUNDING, AS YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS THAT CAN SUPPORT THE CITY.

AND SO WE'LL COME BACK AND REQUEST MORE FUNDING TO CONTINUE ON SPEAKERS].

YEAH, I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND I THINK THEY NEED TO STAY.

Y'ALL NEED TO WORK HAND IN HAND BECAUSE I MADE A COMMENT A FEW WEEKS AGO.

WHEN YOU TURN THE LIGHTS ON THE ROAD [INAUDIBLE].

SO.

I'M GONNA WRITE THAT DOWN.

DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THE MOTION? THIS WAS JUST FOR UPDATE.

YEAH, THIS IS NO ACT.

NO ACTION.

80 THOUSANDS ALREADY.

ALREADY DONE, JUST WANTED TO REPORT OUT ON IT.

WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT.

WE'VE SELECTED A LIGHT, TALK ABOUT PROGRESS.

THE ONLY THING I ALSO ASK REAL QUICK IS THAT WE'RE AS AS WE KEEP GOING THROUGH THESE.

THE REASON WHY WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IS WE'RE NOT HOLDING UP MONTHS UPON MONTHS WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO COME THROUGH AND FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY, YES, WE'VE STUDIED IT AND WE NEED TO DO THIS.

WE'VE BEEN TAKING STREETS, TAKING ACTION AND DOING THEM.

JUST LET'S KEEP THAT MOMENTUM GOING SO WE'RE NOT GETTING STUCK WAITING FOR A LIST AND A MOMENT.

YOU KNOW, THAT SLOWS DOWN JUST AS WE FIND STREETS, PD CAN TESTIFY TO IT AS WELL AND JUST START HITTING THEM.

SOUNDS GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG NUMBER 15 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH

[15. Discussion and possible action on an Interlocal Agreement with Brazoria County to assist in the construction, improvement, maintenance, and/or repair of streets and alleys within the corporate limits of the City. ]

BRAZORIA COUNTY TO ASSIST IN THE CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENT, MAINTENANCE AND OR REPAIR OF STREETS AND ALLEYS WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY.

JEFF? COUNCIL, BRING THIS TO YOU, IN FRONT OF THE Y'ALL EVERY YEAR.

THIS IS OUR OVER LAY LIST.

AND WITH THE INTER LOCAL WITH THE BRAZORIA COUNTY FOR TWO MILES OF OVERLAYS.

THIS LIST HERE, THAT'S IN YOUR PACKAGES.

MOST OF THIS IS FROM LAST YEAR'S LIST THAT WE TOOK OUT AND WE HAD TO ROLL OVER CAUSE WE HAD LIKE THREE MILES.

AND COUNTY SAID, NO, YOU'VE GOT TO CUT IT BACK DOWN TO TWO POINT MILES.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

SOME OF THESE ARE ROADS THAT WE GOT COMPLAINTS ON SOME BAD SHAPE.

I GOT TO BREAK IT DOWN TO TWO MILES.

BUT I THINK WE'LL TAKE WESTERN AVENUE OUT OF THERE BECAUSE WESTERN AVENUE, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON THAT IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH.

SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER WAY TO FUND THAT STREET.

SO.

SO I ASKED HDR TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS, IF YOU OVERLAY THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.

YOU GET SOFT SHOULDERS, IT'S TOO NARROW.

AND SO IN A YEAR OR TWO, YOU'LL BE BACK TO WHAT WE JUST OVERLAID IT AND.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FOR THAT.

MOSTLY WE CAN GET THIS INTER LOCAL THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO DO IT IN FRONT OF COUNTY AND GET IT IN SO THEY CAN TAKE IT FROM THEIR [INAUDIBLE].

WE CAN WORK WITH THE LIST IF Y'ALL GOT A PLACE OR SOMETHING, Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

Y'ALL MAYBE GOT SOME COMPLAINTS ON.

WE MIGHT TAKE SOME GO LOOK AND SEE WHAT PUT IT INTO THIS LIST.

SOMETHING SMALL OR.

YOU SEE, I GOT VINE AND CLOVER ON THERE, I'M GETTING A LOT OF.

I SEE GROVE.

YEAH, GROVE SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE.

I SAW VINE, BUT I THOUGHT WE JUST DID VINE IN THE PAST WHEN WE DID SOUTH SIDE DRIVE, WE DID AN OVERLAY OVER THERE.

WAS IT PARK? NO, WE DIDN'T DO [INAUDIBLE] WE DID THE DITCHES ON VINE.

WE DID THE DITCHES ON VINE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I LEFT.

WHAT IS IT? WHAT'S THE STREET BY THE SCHOOL.

PARK LANE.

I LEFT THAT OUT BECAUSE I THOUGHT MAYBE LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D TURN TO CONCRETE STREETS, SOMETHING WOULD BE BEEN A FEATURE SINCE IT'S ABOUT A SCHOOL.

SO I LEFT.

THAT'S ONLY STREET IN THAT AREA I LEFT OUT.

ONE STREET.

I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT HERE BUT [INAUDIBLE]?

[03:55:04]

YES, IT'S ON THIS YEAR'S LIST.

I THOUGHT IT WAS I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S WHAT'S CONFUSING.

THAT'S WHAT IS YOU'RE YOU'RE SUBMITTING THE LIST TO US THAT WE REALLY SUBMITTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.

RIGHT.

STARTED YET.

I TALKED TO THEM THIS MORNING.

THEY WILL BE STARTING IN THREE WEEKS.

THAT BE [INAUDIBLE] WHAT WAS ALL ON THERE.

BUT.

OK, SO THIS BECAUSE I REMEMBER A PREVIOUS MEETING WE SPOKE ABOUT, I KNOW THINGS ARE NOT BEYOND YOUR CONTROL ARE THINGS ARE BEYOND YOUR CONTROL.

BUT WE DISCUSSED AUGUST BE A JUMPING OFF POINT.

AND I'M NOT CALLING I KNOW WE'RE BEHOLDEN TO THE COUNTY ON THIS.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION ALSO FOR BUDGET, IF WE WANT TO MAKE INVESTMENT OF OUR OWN.

BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT SUBJECT FOR A DIFFERENT TIME.

BUT ANYWAY, I GET THAT.

I'M JUST I JUST WANTED TO THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IN MY MIND OK, THANK YOU.

RIGHT NOW, THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] THEY HAVE TWO HOPPERS.

ONE OF THEM'S SOMEHOW EVERYTHING GOT HARD IN IT.

SO THEY'RE IN THERE CHIPPING IT BY HAND, THE OTHER.

HOPPER IS DEDICATED TO TXDOT AND THEY GONNA 35 SO THERE AIN'T NO WAY.

SO THEY SAY ABOUT THREE WEEKS OUT THEN IT'LL START, I AM LOOKING AT SOME OTHER CONTRACTORS GETTING SOME PRICES ON FOOTAGE.

MAYBE WE CAN LOOK IN THAT DIRECTION LATER ON.

I'M LOOKING AT DOING SOCCER FIELD AND ROAD OUT THERE.

THE EXIT.

CORRECT.

SO WE'LL HAVE A BID BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

YEAH, BID BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

THESE ARE FROM OTHER CONTRACTORS, NOT THE COUNTY.

BUT THAT'S FINE.

BUT I STILL WANT TO CLARIFY THOUGH, THIS LIST RIGHT HERE IS FOR NEXT YEAR.

YEAH.

THE ONE THAT WE APPROVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.

STILL HASN'T BEEN DONE.

HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

THAT WON'T BE STARTED FOR THREE WEEKS.

YEAH.

IT'S TWO HUNDRED, IT'S ABOUT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND, RIGHT? A YEAR AND THEN THIS WAS THE SAME FOR THE ONE THAT'S THIS YEAR WAS THE SAME WAS THAT WE SUBMITTED THE PRIOR YEAR.

THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

RIGHT.

THAT SOME OF THE STREETS ARE YES.

AND THE PRIOR YEAR BEFORE THAT.

I DON'T THINK [INAUDIBLE].

WE HAD A LIST AND THE NEXT YEAR.

THEY DIDN'T DO IT.

SO WE THOUGHT WE COULD DOUBLE IT UP AND DO FOUR MILES.

AND THEY SAID NO.

RIGHT.

SO WE HAD TO CHOP IT DOWN IN HALF.

SO AND THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE.

AND THAT PART OF THAT TO BE DONE THIS YEAR.

AND THIS IS THE REST OF IT WITH A FEW MORE STREETS ADDED.

WE'RE ABOUT A YEAR BEHIND.

YEAH, WE'RE A YEAR BEHIND.

CAN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT GIFFORD LANE, PLEASE? YES.

I THINK, GIFFORD, THAT EDGE OF THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE WORKED, THANK THAT THING WAS OVERLAID AND IT STILL WENT DOWN SO THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE GO IN THERE AND DIG IT OUT.

AND BUT YES, I'LL LOOK AT IT UP.

YOU CAN BE RECEPTIVE TO MODIFYING THIS LIST BY A COUPLE OF STREETS.

IF YOU SAY TAKE THAT ONE OUT AND PUT THIS ONE IN.

YEAH I CAN DO THAT RIGHT.

[INAUDIBLE] I HAD TWO POINT TWO POINT TWO MILES AND THEY DENIED IT.

SO THEY SAID, NO, IT'S GOING TO BE TWO OR LESS.

AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO ALL THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY OVERLAYS FOR US.

IT JUST AIN'T ANGLETON.

HDR'S GONNA LOOK AT WESTERN AVENUE.

YEAH, YEAH.

WHICH WILL GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF.

A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TO WORK WITH.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING CURB, BUT LIKE ASPHALT.

RIGHT.

YEAH, MAYBE LAY DOWN CURBS OR SOMETHING THERE TO BUILD THE SHOULDERS UP.

THE SHOULDERS UP WHAT PRECINCT ARE WE IN? WHO DOES THAT FOR US? TWO.

IS THAT RYAN.

YES.

AND SOMETIMES ONE COMES UP HERE TO HELP.

YOU JUST GOT PROBABLY TO STAY ON THEM THIS NEXT SIX TO 12 MONTHS AND GET AN UPDATE AND KEEP PUSHING.

I MEAN, I GET IT THINGS HAPPEN.

BUT LIKE JOHN JUST SAID, WE'VE MISSED A COUPLE OF YEARS THROUGHOUT THE SPAN OF THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS WHERE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO GET OUR ROADS TAKEN CARE OF.

THE QUESTION OUR CONTRIBUTION IS TWO HUNDRED, TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEN WE PAY THE COUNTY THAT AND THEN THEY COME IN AND DO ALL THE WORK OR WHAT? WE JUST PAY FOR THE ASPHALT.

ONLY THING WE PAY FOR, WE SEND A PO TO THE PLANT AND WHAT THEY NEED, THEY GIVE ME A PRICE OUT.

HOW MUCH STREETS GOING TO BE.

[04:00:01]

OKAY.

SO THIS IS 220 OF THIS IS BUDGETED FOR JUST ASPHALT.

WE GO IN AND FIX IT OR THEY NEED TO LOAD A ROCK.

WE WILL TAKE IT OUT OF THERE.

OK.

IF WE NEED TO BE BUILD THE SIDE A LITTLE BIT OR SO.

BUT THIS THIS IS THE GLUE MILLING.

WHATEVER WE LAY ON TOP, WE TAKE OFF.

WE DON'T KEEP ADDING ON TOP NO MORE.

SO THIS IS THE MILLING MACHINE.

IT'S LIKE SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY.

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MILLED OFF ASHPALT? WE GET IT.

OR THE COUNTY, GETS IT.

DON'T MATTER WHICH ONE, BUT WE TRY TO GET MOST WE CAN.

WE CAN USE IT.

SOMETIMES THEY LIKE TO HAVE BECAUSE THEY DOING THE WORK, BUT.

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT OUT OF CURIOSITY? THE MILLED OFF ASPHALT.

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT? WE PUT IT IN TEMPORARY.

IF WE TEAR OUT THE DRIVEWAY, WE PUT IT IN OUR TEMPORARY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT WILL PACK DOWN PRETTY GOOD.

SO WE USE IT LIKE THAT AND THEN HOLES, WE DON'T PUT IN POTHOLES ON THE STREET.

RIGHT.

IF ON THE EDGE OF THE ROAD OR SOMETHING, JUST FOR TEMPORARY.

I JUST CURIOUS, THANK YOU.

I HATE TO ALSO MENTIONED THE SOUTH WALKER GOING AROUND.

IT'S GETTING KIND OF BAD.

BECAUSE THAT'S STILL CITY, RIGHT? YES, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SIGN.

YEAH, [INAUDIBLE].

THAT ROAD IS FALLING APART ON THE OUTSIDE.

YOU NOTICE ON THIS LIST SOME OF THE MOST OF THIS AROUND THE COURTHOUSE, WE'RE PROBABLY IN PRECONSTRUCTION MEET AND WE'LL TALK WITH THE COUNTY AND TRY TO DO A TRUCK ROUTE WHERE THEY WON'T BE COMING DOWN OUR STREETS.

AFTER WE OVERLAY THAT, WE HAVE SET ON MY DESIGNATED STREET THAT HAD TO BRING THEIR TRUCKS IN BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO TEAR UP OUR NEW STREET.

SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT TALKING TO THE COUNTY ON THAT TOO.

GOOD TO SEE BEECHNUT AND CHESTNUT ON THERE.

I WAS JUST FIXING TO SAY THAT.

OVER THERE BEFORE WE DO.

WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING WITH THE COUNTY IMMA SUGGEST THAT AND JAVIER GET IN ON THIS TOO POSSIBLY.

BUT THE COUNTY DOES SOME FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION SINCE THEY'VE DONE A BUNCH IN THE CITY OF FREEPORT.

THEY'RE DOING A LITTLE SECTION STREET RIGHT NOW WHERE IS AS A PART OF THEIR RECLAMATION, THEY'RE ADDING PORTLAND CEMENT TO STABILIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, COME BACK OVER THAT AFTER [INAUDIBLE] TO COME IN AND ASPHALT IT.

SO THAT'S A PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH WESTERN AVENUE.

[INAUDIBLE] A BIG ROAD [INAUDIBLE]TO MY JOB AS WE GOT THERE WHEN WE DONE THE WEST BRONCO, WE TOOK AN INCH AND A HALF OFF WHERE THERE WAS NO BASE UNDER IT.

HERE WE GO.

WE STARTED SINKING TRUCKS.

SO WE COUNTY GOT TO GO THROUGH AND POT HOLE AND MAKE SURE WHAT WE CAN DO.

[INAUDIBLE] ALL THAT ASPHALT GETS MIXED RIGHT IN WITH THAT DIRT.

SIX INCH.

YEAH.

WHAT WAS OUR SOLUTION ON BRONCHO BEND DID WE EVER GO BACK AND FIX IT? WE WENT IN AND FIX THE SOFT SPOTS ON IT AND DUG IT OUT ABOUT 10 INCHES AND PUT A ROCK IN IT.

SO WE PATCHED THE BRAND NEW ROAD.

NO, THIS WAS BEFORE THEY OVERLAID IT.

NO NO.

BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE SAW THE CRACKING RIGHT AFTER IT WAS POURED AND DRIVING IT WAS ALREADY CRACKING AGAIN.

THEM TREES OVER THERE SUCK UP ALL THE WATER AND I MEAN THE ROAD MOVE THERE.

I KNOW THERE'S NEW WAYS IN THAT, JOHN, TO GO IN AND LAY MEMBRANES DOWN NOW.

AND WE LOOKED AT THAT ONE TIME AND THEY NEVER DID DO IT.

BUT MOST OF THE PROBLEMS, THESE STREETS ARE GOING TO BE AROUND WHERE TREES ARE SUCKING ALL THE WATER OUT.

GUESS MY LAST QUESTION, I'LL LEAVE IT ALONE AFTER THIS.

IF THEY'RE ABOUT TO DO THE OVERLAYS FOR THE ONES THAT WE APPROVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE'RE SAYING THAT GROVE AND VINE AND THOSE GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO GET FIXED UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S TOO LONG TO WAIT.

WE DON'T KNOW IF SEPTEMBER THIS HAS BEEN A LONG YEAR FOR THEM.

USUALLY THEY COME IN AROUND APRIL OR MAY.

I HAVE NOT TALKED TO THEM YET.

SO, I MEAN, I HAVE TO GO WITH THEIR SCHEDULE.

BUT.

IS THERE A WAY TO PATCH SOME OF THE I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE FIXED.

BUT NO, I WAS SAYING I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE A POTHOLE OR YOUR ROADS REALLY IN BAD CONDITION.

YOU HAVE TO WAIT A COUPLE OF MORE, YOU KNOW, SIX, SEVEN MONTHS.

IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAN BE DONE?

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IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN.

I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME NEW PATCH MIX.

WE'VE DONE A FEW POTHOLES IN THE PARKING LOT AT THE BARN THERE.

AND IT HAS NOT CAME OUT YET AND IT'S BEEN IN THERE EIGHT MONTHS.

EASY IF WE CAN JUST BUY [INAUDIBLE], GO OUT, THROW IN OLD, TAMP IT DOWN A GOOD RAIN, COME BACK, IT'S COMING OUT.

AND A RESIDENT TOLD ME THAT THEY PUT HOT MIX ON THEIR STREET ONE TIME AND THEY GOT FINED FROM THE CITY AND TOLD TO TAKE IT OUT.

IS THAT TRUE? NEVER.

[INAUDIBLE], YOU KNOW, THAT ROAD NEEDS WORK.

BUT IF WE CAN SWITCH OUT ONE OF THOSE STREET AT GROVE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE HAVING TRUCKS RUN OVER IT BEFORE IT'S LAID, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE OR IF IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU.

YEAH, WE'LL LOOK AT THE TIMELINE AND HOW THEY SET UP THEIR CONSTRUCTION ZONE, DURING THEIR PRECONSTRUCTION, ALL THAT AND SEE.

WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT, I THINK THEY MIGHT BE STARTING IN JANUARY.

MAYBE SO, YES.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE INTER LOCAL.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE TALKED ABOUT PULLING WESTERN OUT TO GET DOWN TO THE TWO MILE PIECE.

AND SO THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.

AGAIN, LOOKING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

YOU KNOW AS WELL SAYING THE SOONER WE GET IT APPROVED, THE SOONER WE GET IT IN, THE SOONER WE START ASKING FOR IT, GET IT ON THE LIST.

WAS THERE ANOTHER STREET WE WANTED TO PUT IN THERE IF WE TAKE WESTERN AVENUE OUT? BARELY.

BARELY.

YEAH, OK.

YEAH, I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST PULLING.

MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE APPROVE THE LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE STREET OVERLAY PROGRAM WITH THE COUNTY, REMOVING WESTERN AVENUE AND ALL OTHER STREETS LISTED APPROVED.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES, NUMBER 16.

THANK YOU, JEFF.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON TO PURSUE MITIGATION GRANT FUNDING FOR

[16. Discussion and possible action on to pursue mitigation grant funding for warning sirens or withdraw. ]

A WARNING SIREN OR WITHDRAW.

MR. GLENN.

YES.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS ON THIS.

IN 2018, WE HAD APPLIED FOR A POST HARVEY MITIGATION GRANT TO PUT IN SOME NICE WARNING SIRENS TO REPLACE THE ONES THAT HAD WORN OUT WERE FALLING APART AROUND THE CITY AT THE TIME AS A MITIGATION GRANT.

IT WAS 75/25 WE HAD TO PAY OUR TWENTY FIVE PERCENT.

IT WAS REJECTED.

BUT THEN LAST SUMMER WE GOT NOTIFIED BY GLO AND LATER[INAUDIBLE] THAT WE COULD RE-COMPETE FOR IT.

SO WE PUT IN SOME MORE PAPERWORK AND WE UPDATED THE COST AMOUNT BECAUSE HAD IT BEEN TWO YEARS.

SO AT THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT THOSE AGAIN ANOTHER SEVENTY FIVE, TWENTY FIVE PERCENT SPLIT.

OUR COST BASED ON THE NEW ESTIMATE WOULD HAVE BEEN THIRTY SIX THOUSAND AND EIGHTY TWO DOLLARS OR SIXTY TWO DOLLARS AND EIGHTY TWO CENTS.

SINCE THEN WE'VE DONE THE PAPERWORK, WE'VE DONE THE RUN, WE'VE GOT A GRANT ADMINISTRATOR, WE'RE RUNNING WITH IT.

AND WE FOUND OUT ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO AT THE END OF JULY THAT IT'S A FIXED AMOUNT.

IT'S NOT A PERCENTAGE.

SO THE FEDERAL SHARE IS EIGHTY ONE THOUSAND AND ELEVEN DOLLARS AND TWENTY FIVE CENTS.

AND WE WOULD PAY THE REST BECAUSE THE PRICE HAS GONE UP.

THAT BRINGS US UP TO ALMOST DOUBLE SIXTY THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY DOLLARS AND THREE CENTS BASED ON THE ESTIMATE WE GOT LAST FALL.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMPANY THAT WORKED WITH US TO GET THAT ESTIMATE, TO GET A NEW ESTIMATE BASED ON ALL THE NEW CHANGES AND INFLATION, AND THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THAT.

BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER.

SO OUR COST IS PROBABLY GONNA BE ALMOST FIFTY PERCENT.

SO WE'RE AT THE IMPASSE.

DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD THIS AND TAKE THIS AND BE ON THE HOOK FOR MAYBE SIXTY EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS? OR WE CAN WITHDRAW AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPROGRAM THAT EIGHTY ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS ELSEWHERE.

WE FLOATED IT TO THEM.

THEY DIDN'T SAY YES.

THEY DIDN'T SAY NO.

WE COULD PURSUE THIS ON ANOTHER MITIGATION POSSIBILITY.

THAT'S COMING UP.

PROBABLY POST LAURA THE POST FREEZE OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD HAPPEN DOWN THE LINE ANY TIME THERE'S A DISASTER IN THE COUNTRY, THERE'S MITIGATION MONEY THAT FALLS OUT FROM IT AND WE CAN COMPETE FOR THAT.

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SO ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT AS A GREAT IDEA AND WE'VE GOT A GREAT CONCEPT FOR A SIREN SYSTEM THAT CAN BE REMOTELY ACTIVATED AT DISPATCH AND WE'LL COVER THE CITY VERY WELL.

THAT'S ALSO EXPANDABLE.

WE CAN GROW IT AS FUNDS COMES ALONG.

HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO PUT CITY MONEY IN AND.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE MONEY FROM IF WE PURSUE IT? YEAH, IF YOU PURSUE IT? THAT.

BE A CHRIST QUESTION, YEAH, BALANCE OR COMING FROM THE CARES ACT FUNDING OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, AMERICAN RECOVERY.

FIRTH THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS I LIKE [INAUDIBLE].

I MEAN I DO LIKE IT BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO BE A WARNING SYSTEM AND IF IT'S PROVED THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND OF COURSE, IF CELL PHONE AND INTERNET GOES DOWN, NEXT THING BEST THING IS TO USE A SIREN OR GET THE PD TO GO THROUGH.

AND THAT WOULD WORK.

I MEAN, YOU COULD STILL GO REMOTELY PUSH A BUTTON AND MAKE IT WORK.

OF COURSE IT'S STILL ELECTRICALS.

AND THERE'S WILL HAVE GENERATORS BUT SO IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE IN THE WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN TODAY IS JUST WHERE WE FIND THE FUNDING.

YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT AS A RESPONDER BECAUSE THAT'S MY BACKGROUND AROUND THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

THAT'S ALWAYS WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.

WORST CASE SCENARIO, SOMETHING FALL OFF THE TRACK AND LET THOSE RESIDENTS KNOW, CAN YOU DO SMALL PIECES AND ADD ON? I MEAN, COULD WE GET UNDERNEATH THAT GRANT AMOUNT AND THEN MAKE IT MORE SPEAKERS] AND DO LESS LESS SIRENS.

WE COULD DO TWO SIRENS, MAYBE ONE AT THE DOWNTOWN AND ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE SO THAT WE CAN DO WARNINGS BECAUSE, YEAH, THAT IS A VERY LIKELY SPOT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS THROUGH EVERY CITY IN THE [INAUDIBLE] VIA RAIL, AND YOUR SAFEGUARDS ARE AS GOOD UNTIL SOMETHING INSANE HAPPENS WITH A TRACK.

BUT THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE IS WE WILL USE IT FOR WEATHER THEN NOW YOU'RE NEGLECTING THE NORTH SIDE.

IF YOU DIDN'T PUT IT OVER THERE, IF THERE'S A WEATHER EVENT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO LOOK BUT YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE TOO SO.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S JUST THE RESPONDER IN ME THAT LOOKS OUT FOR THAT HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION.

BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

WE COULD CUT IT BACK AND THAT WILL CUT BACK THE CITY'S PERCENTAGE.

AND I WILL HAVE A BETTER NUMBER.

WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR HE COULDN'T GET AN ESTIMATE OUT OF HIS SIREN, SUB VENDOR FOR A WEEK BECAUSE THEY WERE ON VACATION.

GOTCHA.

ARE THEY EUROPEAN.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

ARE THESE SIRENS BEING ARE REPLACING ONES THAT HAVE WORN OUT.

CORRECT, WE HAD HAD THE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE FOR YEARS.

IT FAILED JUST AFTER, I THINK, HARVEY, WE HAD ONE THAT'S STILL WORKING AT FIRE STATION ONE AND WE STILL HEAR IT EVERY NOON AND THEN STATION THREE HAD ONE AS WELL.

BUT THEY TOOK IT DOWN, KNOW.

SO IT'S THE MOUNTING EVERYTHING IS THERE TO BE MOUNTED, YOU KNOW, TAKES STRUCTURE UP.

AND A BRAND NEW SIREN THAT'LL BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE.

IT HAS A WIDER RANGE.

IT WILL COVER A GREATER AREA, PLUS WE CAN CONTROL IT REMOTELY.

SO THAT'S THE THING.

I MEAN, SEVERAL OF US COULD HAVE IT ON AN APP, ON A SMARTPHONE, JUST LIKE WITH THE STREET LIGHTS.

WE COULD SET IT OFF OR IT COULD BE USED AT DISPATCH WHERE THE CALLS ARE GOING TO COME IN.

SO WE CAN SPEND THIRTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE LUNCH BILL? [LAUGHTER] WELL, THE THIRTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS OUR COST.

SIXTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS AND IT'LL PROBABLY BE MORE BECAUSE THAT ESTIMATE, I'M SURE, MATERIALS HAS GONE SKY HIGH SINCE THE FREEZE.

THAT SIXTY THREE WAS FOR THREE DIFFERENT UNITS.

IT WAS FOR THREE SEPARATE UNITS AND THE LINKAGE, THE SOFTWARE, THE CONNECTIVITY.

YOU CAN PROBABLY EXPECT ABOUT EACH TO BE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND 20 TO 25 THOUSAND.

BUT WE COULD WHEN I TALK TO HIM AGAIN, WHEN HE'S GOT A NUMBER WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN TALK IT DOWN TO TWO AND SEE IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BUDGET.

AND WE STILL HAVE SOME TIME TO WORK WITH [INAUDIBLE] ON.

THAT MEANS, JUST CONTINUING TO WORK ON IT, BUT KNOWING THAT YOU ONLY HAVE THIRTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS TO SPEND.

HOW LONG IS THIS GRANT AVAILABLE FOR.

I THINK IT'S LIKE THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

OK.

I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS IF 36,000 CAN GET US TO OR IF IT STAYS WITHIN THAT BALLPARK, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY KNEW THAT WE'RE GOING INTO IT FOR THREE WITH NOW THE REDUCTION

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IN THEIR PART BY THE INCREASE OF OUR PART, IT MAY BE GOING DOWN TO TWO.

COULD THAT GET US IN THE BALLPARK TO START SOMEWHERE? GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.

EXACTLY.

AND THEN MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE BUDGET FOR THE OTHER ONE.

WE CAN CONTINUE PUTTING IN FOR MITIGATION GRANTS TO ADD TO IT.

THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS, GUYS.

WE COULD PROBABLY AT LEAST NEED TO REPLACE THE ONE THAT'S BROKEN.

ALL, PRETTY MUCH ALL BUT ONE ARE GONE.

WE JUST HAVE THE ONE DOWNTOWN CECIL AND THAT'S THE ONE ON FIRE STATION.

IF YOU CAN GET TWO IS THE NORTH SIDE, AND THE SOUTH SIDE.

WE GOTTA DO THAT.

THAT'S A CONCEPT TOO.

I JUST WORRY ABOUT THE PEOPLE AROUND THE TRACKS.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I WORRY ABOUT, THE TRACKS.

I LIVE BY THE TRACKS.

I CAN HEAR THAT SIREN EVERY DAY AT NOON.

WELL WOULD YOU HEAR IT AT CEMETERY.

NO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TWO ADDITIONAL ONES ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE .

TRUE.

TO GET US THERE.

SIDE.

IT SERVES THE TRACK AREA AND THE SOUTH SIDE.

IT'LL COVER THE WHOLE SOUTH SIDE.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S A GOOD SPOT AND IT'S IN CITY OWNED PROPERTY.

SO WE HAVE GOOD SECURITY WITH IT.

WE'VE GOT POWER GOING TO IT.

IT'S A GOOD FIT.

NOW THE ONE THAT'S AT STATION ONE IS ANCIENT AND IT WON'T BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE REMOTING SYSTEM.

SO IT WILL STILL GO OFF AT NOON AND IT'LL STILL HAVE TO BE MANUALLY ACTIVATED.

BUT IT'S THERE.

BUT IF I RECALL, JUST BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE OLD SYSTEM, WE WOULD PROGRAM IT AND ALLOW THE [INAUDIBLE] TO KNOW IF YOU HEARD LIKE A CERTAIN PATTERN.

THAT'S THE WARNING FOR A WEATHER OR A WARNING FOR THIS DOWNTOWN STATION.

IT'S JUST A WIND UP.

IT'S JUST THE OLD WIND UP.

YOU WOULD JUST PUBLIC DEFENSE TYPE SIREN.

YEAH.

BUT BASICALLY, I THINK IT WAS TO NOTIFY A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS SPEAKERS] WE USED IT BACK IN THE DAY BEFORE WE HAD PAGERS.

EXACTLY.

WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT STILL HAVE ONE OF THOSE THAT WORKS.

IT'S A LUNCH PAIL.

YEAH A LUNCH PAIL.

YEAH, 12 NOON LUNCH PAIL.

CELEBRATE EVERY NOON.

SO DO YOU NEED A MOTION FROM US.

YES, SIR.

WELL, YEAH, IT IS AN ACTION.

YEAH.

LET'S IF YOU'D LIKE TO PURSUE ON A SMALLER SCALE.

YES.

AND THEN WE CAN MEET THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT.

MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE CONTINUE TO PURSUE THE MITIGATION GRANT FUNDING FOR WARNING SIRENS IN THE AMOUNT OF THIRTY SIX THOUSAND SIXTY TWO DOLLARS AND EIGHTY CENTS AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR TO NEGOTIATE ON OUR BEHALF TO GET THERE I THINK THAT'S I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT DO I HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND IT.

I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER 17 DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ANY OF GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S LATEST EXECUTIVE

[17. Discussion and possible action on any of Governor Abbott’s latest executive orders, Brazoria County’s emergency declarations and impact on the City of Angleton and how to proceed with city business in the future. ]

ORDERS, BRAZORIA COUNTY'S EMERGENCY DECLARATION, IMPACT ON THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND HOW TO PROCEED WITH CITY BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE.

NOW, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING TO TELL US.

[LAUGHTER] AS YOU HEARD ON THE NEWS.

TIME TO SHINE.

AS YOU HEARD ON THE NEWS THE NUMBERS ARE RISING INCREDIBLY.

AND OUR HOSPITALIZATION RATE AND OUR TRAUMA SERVICE AREA WAS FLUCTUATING IN THE 20S.

IT WENT UP TO TWENTY FOUR POINT ONE FIVE TODAY.

AND THE TSA'S AROUND US ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION.

YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN SEEING, WE'RE HEARING AT HOSPITALS HAVING TO TURN AWAY PATIENTS OR SENDING FOLKS TO OTHER FACILITIES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE THEM.

HOSPITALS ARE LOADED.

WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING THE COUNTY'S BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT 185 A DAY.

THEY HAD THAT BIG DROP ON MONDAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T COUNT THE WEEKENDS ANYMORE.

THAT AVERAGES OUT TO 185, THEY HAD ANOTHER 185 DAY TODAY, WE HAD NINE IN THE CITY TODAY, BUT WE HAD 63 OVER THE WEEKEND PLUS I THINK ONE DEATH.

SO IT'S NOT SHOWING ANY SIGNS OF LETTING UP.

THAT I THINK JUST BEFORE WE MET LAST MONTH, THE GOVERNOR PUT OUT EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 38, WHICH BASICALLY TOOK A LOT OF MITIGATION POSSIBILITIES OFF THE TABLE.

THERE WAS NO AUTOMATIC STEPS FOR WHEN YOUR HOSPITALIZATION RATE WENT OVER 15 PERCENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE LIVING UNDER LAST FALL, LAST WINTER.

THERE ARE NO MASK MANDATES.

SO WHAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER IS WE'VE GOT SOME COVID PROCEDURES FOR THE COUNTY, INTERNAL PROCEDURES I'M GOING TO HAND OUT TO Y'ALL.

MUNICIPALITIES AROUND US SO.

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AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUZZ WORD IS ENCOURAGING, STRONGLY ENCOURAGING STAFF TO WEAR MASKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE HAVING MEETINGS INTERNALLY.

WE'RE ENCOURAGING REMOTE MEETINGS, PHONE MEETINGS, ZOOM MEETINGS.

WE STILL HAVE ALL THOSE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US.

SO WE WANT TO USE THOSE.

THERE'S A LOT OF TRAINING THAT WAS DEFERRED FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF COVID THAT A LOT OF FOLKS AT LAW ENFORCEMENT FIRE AND A BUNCH OF OTHER DISCIPLINES HAVE GOT TO GET THAT TRAINING AND TO STAY PROFICIENT, TO STAY CERTIFIED.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO IMPACT, BUT WE'D LIKE EVERYBODY TO RUN IT PAST DEPARTMENT HEADS OR RUN IT PAST THEIR DIRECTORS TO BEFORE THEY HEAD OUT ON THESE SO THAT WE'VE GOT A GOOD IDEA.

WE'VE HAD AS MANY AS ABOUT NINE WITH COVID IN STAFF, BUT WE'VE GOT IT IS DOWN TO ABOUT FOUR NOW AS THE RECOVERY HAS COME ALONG.

BUT THIS IS LOOKING LIKE THE SAME TYPES, LIKE WE'VE HAD THE LAST TWO SPIKES AND THEY USUALLY LAST ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS.

WE'RE ABOUT TWO WEEKS INTO THIS ONE.

IT MAY GO UP BEFORE IT STARTS GOING DOWN.

AND I TAKE IT, BECAUSE YOU SAID IT, YOU'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THE HOSPITAL TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING IF THEY NEED ANY NEEDS FROM US, BECAUSE THAT WOULD COME THROUGH US TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY.

AND THEN I GUESS TALKING TO LUCILLE IN THE E.M.S., MAKING SURE THEY'RE GOOD STAFF WISE AND WHAT NOT YEAH HAVING SPOKE WITH THEM, THAT THEY'RE GOING WITH PPE.

OF COURSE, THEY'RE MORE VULNERABLE.

THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, I THINK WE'RE GOING WITH PPE ON OUT ON THE STREETS INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC.

IS IT.

OK.

YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING CAREFUL WITH OUR STAFF SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN STAY MAINTAINED.

BUT, YEAH, IT'S GOING TO GET YOU THERE.

FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN VACCINATED ARE BEING INFECTED.

I KNOW SOME PERSONALLY.

IN THE PAST ARE GETTING IT AGAIN.

SO THIS IS BECOMING QUITE THE FRUSTRATION.

I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE GOTTEN IN FOR A SECOND TIME AND IT WAS WORSE THIS TIME THAN LAST TIME SO [LAUGHTER].

BUT ANYWAY.

WITH THE VACCINE.

I WON'T.

YEAH.

BOTH.

BOTH.

IT'S WEIRD.

SO IF YOU SAW THE NUMBERS, THE HOSPITAL, I THINK THEY POSTED UTMB, I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR THEM WHAT I SAW.

THEY DID POST SOMETHING WITH THEIR NUMBERS.

BUT OUT OF THOSE NUMBERS OF HOSPITALIZED COVID PATIENTS, 97 PERCENT WERE NON VACCINATED.

CORRECT.

THAT'S WHAT UTMB PUT OUT FOR THE FOR SISTER HOSPITALS IN THEIR SYSTEM, WHICH ANGLETON'S INCLUDED.

AND WE'RE SEEING THAT NUMBER TROTTED OUT NATIONALLY.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY A VERY GOOD STATISTIC.

WE'RE NOT IMMUNE TO IT.

WE'RE GETTING HIT JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IS.

LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

THE KILLER IS EVERYBODY'S ASKING ABOUT THE DELTA VARIANT.

SO WE WERE ON SOME PHONE CALLS ON LISTEN FOLKS, EVERYBODY THAT GETS A COVID TEST, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU, OH, IT'S THE DELTA VARIANT OR YOU GOT THE LAMBDA VARIANT.

IT'S A SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT THEY TEST AT CDC OR THEY TEST AT A HIGHER LEVEL TO SEE IF THEY'RE IT'S JUST NOT COST EFFECTIVE TO SEE WHO'S GOT WHAT.

YEAH, JUST YOU HAVE IT AND TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.

EXACTLY.

AND I'M GLAD YOU ALL ARE TAKING PRECAUTIONS AS EMPLOYEES AND STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, BE MINDFUL OF IT.

AND RECENTLY, I THINK TODAY THE GOVERNOR DID ASK HOSPITALS TO VOLUNTARILY DELAY OR CUT NON NON-ESSENTIAL PROCEDURES.

AWESOME.

OK.

ANYMORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE COVID ACTION OF THE BUSINESS.

OK, I DID FORGET ONE PERSON THAT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE DURING STAFF, AND I APOLOGIZE.

THE AUDIENCE HAS LEFT, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT IT'S A RECOGNITION APPRECIATION AND IT'S FOR COLLEEN.

AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU ALL KNOW, COLLEEN HELPED SET US UP WITH OUR SISTER CITIES, WITH LUFKIN AND NAVASOTA, AND THAT TOOK SOME LEGWORK IN GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

SO, COLLEEN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET RECOGNIZED FOR THOSE EFFORTS, FOR GETTING US OUR SISTER CITIES FOR IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.

SO IF YOU'LL COME UP AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH US, A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION.

[APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, GUYS.

ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM 17, CHRIS OR ANYBODY ELSE? WE'RE GOOD, OK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

YOU'RE NOT THE LAST ONE ON THE LIST.

THIS GO AROUND.

NUMBER 17.

OH, WE DID THAT ONE.

NUMBER 18 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE CHANGES TO THE 2021 2022

[18. Discussion and possible action to approve Changes to the 2021-2022 Proposed Budget, Proposed Ad Valorem Tax Rate, and the Capital Improvement Plan. ]

PROPOSED BUDGET, PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATE AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

CHRIS, 2.0.

[04:25:01]

YES.

[LAUGHTER] AT LEAST IT'S NOT TWELVE O'CLOCK YET.

TEN FOUR.

NOT YET.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WE'LL START WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE THAT WE RECEIVED.

AND IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN A POINT ZERO THREE TO A POINT SIX THREE THREE.

IT WAS AT POINT SIX SIX FIVE.

SO THAT'S A FOUR POINT 83 PERCENT DECLINE.

THE PROPERTY VALUES CAME IN AT ONE BILLION, 196 IN TOTAL.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WE HAD EXPECTED AND IT'S ABOUT SEVENTY FOUR MILLION INCREASE.

AND WE WERE EXPECTING ABOUT ONE HUNDRED MILLION.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS.

AND THE NO NEW REVENUE PROPERTY IS 27 MILLION, WHICH WE WERE EXPECTING THAT TO BE CLOSER TO 50 TO 60 MILLION.

HOWEVER, SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DECLINE IN THE CURRENT TAXES ONCE WE APPLY THE ACTUAL RATES.

HOWEVER, OUR COLLECTION RATE IS CERTIFIED AT ONE HUNDRED AND THREE PERCENT IT HAS BEEN IT WAS 110 PERCENT LAST YEAR.

WE SO BASICALLY WE'RE COLLECTING THE DELINQUENT TAXES.

IT WAS 103 SINCE 2018.

SO THEY CERTIFIED THAT AT ONE HUNDRED AND THREE PERCENT.

SO IN ORDER TO TRY TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE IN ALL THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD AND OBVIOUSLY STICK WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE SINCE WE'VE OBVIOUSLY DECIDED THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE THIRD PAGE THERE, THE CHANGES THAT I MADE OVER AND ABOVE, WHAT WE HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED IN THE MEETINGS IS THAT REDUCED THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAXES BY TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX THOUSAND.

BUT I INCREASED THE DELINQUENT BY ONE HUNDRED AND THREE.

SO THEN THAT IS A DECLINE OF ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO THOUSAND.

AND THEN I MADE THAT DIFFERENCE UP BECAUSE WE HAD A LITTLE BIT LEFT FROM WHEN WE BEFORE IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN TO EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS DIFFERENCE FROM THE OTHER CHANGES.

SO I ADDED 130,000 OF INCOME FROM FUND 19 AND THAT'S THE MONEY THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY THAT WHERE WE SOLD EASEMENT OF THE PIPELINE.

SO WE HAVE SOME MONEY THERE AND THAT'S HOW WE BALANCED IT LAST YEAR.

WE HAD TWO HUNDRED THIRTY SIX THOUSAND IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR TO HELP BALANCE FROM THAT FUND.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT MONEY.

SO THAT LEAVES ABOUT 400,000 IN THAT FUND.

SO I USED THAT INCREASE FROM FUND NINETEEN TO MAKE EVERYTHING BALANCED THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ADJUST ANY OTHER EXPENSES OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

SO WE CAN STICK WITH, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN AND THEN THE BUDGET'S STILL BALANCED.

SO THAT'S THE SUGGESTION THERE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT OR ABOUT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE'RE GOOD.

OK, I MEAN, IT IS A VERY NICE DECLINING RATE.

IT'S GOING DOWN TO .

03, WHICH IS ALMOST FIVE PERCENT, FOUR POINT EIGHT PERCENT DECLINE IN RATE.

AND WHAT SO JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE MEANS WE DON'T GET ANY ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM CURRENT PROPERTIES, ITS NEW PROPERTIES ADDED TO THE ROLL IS WHERE WE'RE GETTING THE SLIGHT INCREASE IN DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CIP PLAN, BECAUSE I DID ADJUST THAT FOR THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE I WANTED IT TO REFLECT WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO AS FAR AS DEBT ISSUANCE.

SO I TOOK EVERYTHING OUT OF THE CIP PLAN IN 21 22 AND MOVED IT TO FURTHER OUT YEARS EXCEPT FOR ON THE UTILITY SIDE, I HAVE TWO POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE AND THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT'S FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE NEW GEN STUDY THAT PROJECTED OUT THAT SEVEN DOLLAR RATE INCREASE THAT WE PLAN TO DO IN THE BUDGET.

SO TECHNICALLY, TWO POINT FOUR MILLION OF CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE IN THE BUDGET.

SO THAT LEAVES SOME MONEY MAYBE FOR THE CHENANGO, THE WATER TOWER THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT LATER AND LIFT STATIONS OR WHATEVER ELSE WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT TWO POINT FOUR MILLION AND STILL NOT HAVE A LARGER INCREASE IN THE SEVEN DOLLAR INCREASE.

WE ALREADY PLAN TO DO.

WHAT IS TEXAN TRAIL STORM'S SEWER.

THAT IS A STORM WATER PROJECT IS.

WERE IS JEFF AT.

WHERE IS THAT? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S THE TEXAN AVENUE WHERE THE STORM DRAINS UNDERNEATH CAVED IN AND STUFF.

AND JOHN'S BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO GET SOME EASEMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO ONCE WE GET ALL THE EASEMENT THAT WE CAN, WE HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT REPLACED.

WHAT HAPPENED? I THINK THAT WAS BROUGHT OVER FROM LAST YEAR.

WE HAD THAT IN THE BUDGET.

SO WE'VE GOT A STORM SEWER THAT'S RIGHT UNDER THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE OR SOMETHING.

IT'S RUNNING THROUGH THE CENTER BETWEEN THE HOUSES AS COUNTY OFF EASEMENT.

AND THEN WE GOT TO GET A LITTLE WIDER EASEMENT TO GET IN THERE AND GET IT REPLACED.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

I THINK WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ONE COUPLE GUYS OVER THERE THAT DON'T

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WANT TO KIND OF GIVE THE EASEMENT UP.

THANKS, JOHN.

SORRY.

THE STORM SEWER, IS HDPE PIPE WHICH IS A GOOD PIPE AS LONG AS IT'S BED PROPERLY.

THAT PIPE WAS NOT BEDDED PROPERLY.

IT'S OVALING.

IT'S COMING TO WHERE IT'S STARTING TO SMASH STARTED TO BE WHERE IT OPENS UP SOME SINKHOLES IN A COUPLE PLACES AND IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE HOUSES THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE IS BUILT RIGHT ADJACENT TO IT, OR MAYBE POTENTIALLY EVEN OVER THE TOP OF IT.

THIS POPPED UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WASN'T IT JEFF WHEN THIS POPPED UP.

YEAH, THAT WAS A LONG TIME.

IT COULD BE LONGER.

IT'S BEEN I DIDN'T.

AND IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

I DIDN'T KNOW STILL LAST I HEARD WAS BEFORE OK, OK, WE'LL GET BACK ON THAT.

INTERESTING.

SO THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST A PROJECT THAT MAKES IT FIT TO THE TWO POINT FOUR MILLION BECAUSE WHAT WE HAD ESTIMATED AND WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE CHENANGO WATER PLANT HERE UNTIL LATER, BUT WE DID HAVE ONE POINT FIVE MILLION FOR THE HENDERSON LINES SO I SWITCHED THOSE TWO, BECAUSE THAT'S MORE OF THAT'S AN EMERGENCY NOW.

AND THEN THE LIFT STATION WAS ESTIMATED AT ABOUT 200,000 A YEAR FOR THREE YEARS.

SO I JUST MOVED THAT INTO THE 600,000 SINCE WE'RE ALREADY DOING A STUDY ON THAT, OR A PLAN THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO I'M JUST MAKING THE NUMBERS FIT TO THE TWO POINT 4 BUT IT COULD BE OTHER PROJECTS.

BUT THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE FINANCIAL PLAN.

THAT'S FOR THE SEVEN DOLLAR INCREASE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN ON THE GENERAL SIDE, WHAT I HAVE IN HERE IS AN ESTIMATE ON THE NEW SERVICE CENTER ALC FOR PARKS PUBLIC WORKS AN IT AND THEN I PUT THE MUNICIPAL IN HERE AT TWO MILLION.

THAT'S, ABOUT WHAT OUR CAPACITY IS GOING TO BE, WHEN WE GET TO THAT LATER.

AND THAT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE.

I MEAN THAT THE WAY I CAME UP WITH THAT SERVICE CENTER AMOUNT IS THE ESTIMATE WAS FIVE POINT FOUR MILLION.

WE HAVE A 10 PERCENT BUFFER IN THERE BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS GOING UP AND ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE FOR IT.

SO IT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE.

IT COULD BE LESS.

IT COULD BE MORE THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING UP.

BUT THAT'S JUST IT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT OUR CAPACITY IS AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, ON A LATER AGENDA ITEM.

BUT DOES ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THE CIP.

ON OTHER PROJECTS OR.

SO WHAT DO YOU NEED OUT OF THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.

I MEAN, WHAT WE NEED ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET CHANGES THAT I MADE SO THAT WE CAN SAY, OH, WE'RE IN BALANCE AND THAT WE CAN BRING THE, YOU KNOW, THE NEW PROPOSED BUDGET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 24TH AND THEN BRING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL AT COUNCIL ON THE SEPTEMBER 14TH.

AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE AD VALOREM TAX RATE? AND THE CIP YOU NEED THAT TONIGHT TOO AS WELL.

NO WE'VE ALREADY VOTED THAT WE'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

WE'VE ALREADY SET THE HEARING.

SO THAT'S GOING TO GO TO THAT HEARING.

WE DON'T REALLY NEED YOU KNOW, LONG AS YOU AGREE WITH THE CHANGES I MADE, THEN THERE'S NO [INAUDIBLE] WE CAN JUST AGREE TO THE CURRENT BUDGET, PROPOSED BUDGET WITH CHANGES.

AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE CIP THAT I'VE SUGGESTED, YOU CAN.

IF NOT, YOU CAN LEAVE IT NOW AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN WHEN WE GET TO THE LAST ITEM ON THE DEBT ISSUANCE, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO YOU KNOW, THE PLAN NEEDS TO TIE TO WHAT WE AGREE.

AND WE THINK WE WANT TO DO THE PRICE WE WANT TO DO IT AND THE DEBT ISSUANCE OR ARE ALSO NEEDS TO MOVE OUT.

OK, YEAH, ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S WORK ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

YEAH.

MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE ADOPT THE CURRENT BUDGET CHANGES APPROVE THE CURRENT BUDGET CHANGES AS PRESENTED FOR THE PROPOSED 2021-2022, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL NO NEW REVENUE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

YOU WANT TO ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS.

NO, NOT RIGHT NOW.

OK, I SECOND THAT MOTION.

MOTION BY COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SO THIS IS A WANT LIST AND IF SOMETHING COMES UP DURING THE YEAR WE CAN EASILY MODIFY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE VERSUS WHAT WE WANTED TO BE DONE.

RIGHT.

WHEN WE GET TO.

THAT LAST AGENDA ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE TIMING OF WHEN WE WOULD DO THE DEBT ISSUANCE.

IF WE DO IT.

ON THE AND IT'S A DIFFERENT ANSWER FOR UTILITIES COMPARED TO GENERAL MIC].

UTILITIES IT'S EMERGENCY.

SO WE NEED TO DO IT NOW.

SO CECIL.

BUT THE OTHER WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE LATER.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AFTER THIS MOTION, I'D LIKE A MOTION ON APPROVING THE

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CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND THAT'S A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT.

SO AS WE GET FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS AND PRIORITIES CHANGE, WE CAN ADJUST THE YOU KNOW, YOU ALL WILL GIVE US GUIDANCE AND WE'LL ADJUST IT AND FUND OR NOT FUND DIFFERENT THINGS.

ALL RIGHT, TO HELP YOU OUT, MR. CECIL, OK.

YEAH THAT'S FINE.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NOW, CHRIS WOULD LIKE SOMETHING ON THE CIP.

CHRIS 1.0.

COUNCIL.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM SUBJECT TO MODIFICATION AS NEEDED.

I SECOND THAT.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG, NUMBER 19, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CHENANGO WATER PLANT GROUND STORAGE TANK.

[19. Discussion and possible action on the Chenango Water Plant – Ground Storage Tank. ]

CHRIS, SO I'D LIKE TO JUST OPEN THIS WITH A COMMENT THAT I THINK THE CURRENT STATE OF DISREPAIR AT THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AT THE CHENANGO WATER STORAGE THREATENS THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY OF CITY RESIDENTS.

I AGREE.

[INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU FOR THAT.

JAVIER COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.

AND I JUST WANT TO KICK THINGS OFF.

JUST STEPPING BACK ON THE NOTE OF THE INSPECTION THAT WAS REQUESTED TO BE PERFORMED AT THE GROUND STORAGE TANK THERE AT CHENANGO, AS YOU MIGHT HAVE READ IN THE REPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST A BRIEF HISTORY ON IT.

THAT TANK HAS BEEN THERE SINCE ABOUT 1952 OR SO.

IT'S REACHING ITS LIFE EXPECTANCY IN DETAIL OF THAT REPORT IT GOES INTO DIFFERENT DEPTHS OF ALL THE DEGRADATION OF THAT PLANT THAT WAS LOOKED AT FROM EXTERIOR INTERIOR, YOU KNOW, UP AND DOWN ON THE TANK ITSELF.

WHAT I DO WANT TO ALSO PASS OUT HERE, THOUGH, WAS JUST SOME EXHIBITS THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IN THE PAST, JUST IDENTIFYING SOME OF THE LOCATIONS FOR WATER RELATED FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO PASS IT OUT NOW, THOUGH, AND SPEAK TO THAT.

SO WHILE HE IS PASSING THAT OUT? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE CHENANGO GROUND STORAGE TANK AND BOOSTER PUMP SUPPORTS A THIRD OF THE CITY.

SO IF THAT THING GOES OUT TOMORROW, WE'VE JUST LOST A THIRD OF OUR WATER TO THE HEART OF THE CITY.

AND WE WOULD BE IF YOU'RE STILL LOSING A MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO START OFF WITH ON THE EXHIBIT IS YOU COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, THE RELATION OF THE CHENANGO WATER PLANT WITHIN THE CITY THERE MORE SO THERE ON THE FIRST PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT WATER PLANTS WITHIN THE CITY, WATER PLANT NUMBER THREE BEING ON THE NORTH, THE SINGLE PLANT BEING RIGHT THERE, THE HEART OF THE CITY HERE.

AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU GOT THE JAMESON PLANT.

AND SO LIKE CHRIS HAD MENTIONED, IF THIS THING GOES OFFLINE, YOU'RE NOT ONLY USING THE STORAGE CAPACITY, BUT THE PUMPING CAPACITY, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITHIN REGULATIONS OF TCEQ.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PREFACE THAT BY HIGHLIGHTING THAT ON THESE EXHIBITS HERE SO YOU COULD SEE WITHIN THE CITY THERE FOR EACH OF THE WATER PLANTS, YOU GOT THE THREE PUMPS, ALL ABOUT 850 GPM.

AND SO, AGAIN, YOU'D BE LOSING ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PUMPING CAPACITY IF THAT PLANT WENT OUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN ANY KIND OF DISARRAY TO IT.

RIGHT.

LEADING OFF WITH THAT I WAS WANTING TO WALK OFF, I WALK THROUGH THE INSPECTION THAT WAS PERFORMED.

AND THAT'S IN YOUR PACKETS AS WELL.

AND SO THAT WAS PERFORMED BY DN TANKS, I BELIEVE, BACK IN JULY.

AND SO WALKING THROUGH THAT, THEY HAD PROVIDED DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THE CITY TO RUN THROUGH FOR THE TANKS.

FIRST ONE I'LL WALK OFF THROUGH IS AND LET ME BACK UP.

I APOLOGIZE.

SO JOHN HAD PREPARED A MEMO TO KIND OF CONDENSE THAT INFORMATION FROM THAT REPORT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IN THE FIRST TWO PAGES THERE.

AND SO I WALK THROUGH THAT ACTUALLY, AND THEN KIND OF BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH WITH

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THE REPORT HERE JUST TO GIVE THE INFORMATION.

SO THE FIRST ITEM THAT WAS IDENTIFIED SO AS AN OPTION WAS TANK REHABILITATION.

SO THERE'D BE AN EXTERIOR REHABILITATION AND AN INTERIOR REHABILITATION FOR THE PRICE AMOUNTS LISTED THERE.

SO THE EXTERIOR WOULD INVOLVE A PROCESS OF FIXING SOME OF THE CRACKS.

AND I BELIEVE WAS IT PAINTING, JOHN? PAINTING THAT EXTERIOR AND THEN SAME THING WITH THE INTERIOR ALSO COATING THE INTERIOR OF THE TANKS.

AND THEN THERE WOULD ALSO BE A PERTINENCE UPGRADES ALONG WITH THAT, SUCH AS SAFETY ITEMS, LADDERS AND SOME OF THE SAFETY LIGHTS HERE.

AND THEN THE SECOND OPTION WAS FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE GROUND STORAGE TANK.

SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR REPLACING THAT TANK HERE.

I BELIEVE WHAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED WAS PROVIDING A SCHEMATIC FOR THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT TANK ON THE SITE.

AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THAT THE REPORT HERE I WANT TO AGAIN BOUNCE TO THE REPORT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A SCHEMATIC THERE FOR FITTING A TANK WITHIN THE SITE THERE.

SO A TANK REPLACEMENT.

AND SO WHAT WAS DONE THERE WAS JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A MILLION GALLON TANK FITTING WITHIN THE SITE.

SO JUST LOOKING AT A SCHEMATIC VIEW, A ONE MILLION GALLON TANK WOULD FIT THERE WITHIN THE SITE.

AND SO IF ONE MILLION GALLON TANK COULD FIT THERE, THEN, YOU KNOW, SUBSEQUENT SIZES CAN ALSO BE PLACED THERE.

SO GOING BACK TO THE SECOND OPTION OF THE REPORT HERE.

YOU'LL SEE THOSE LISTED OUT THERE WITH THE FIRST OPTION BEING A HALF MILLION GALLON TANK, SECOND BEING A POINT, 75 THIRD BEING A ONE MILLION GALLON TANK, AND THEN THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THEY'RE LISTED ON JOHN'S MEMO IS THAT WOULD BE LISTED FOR ALL THE OPTIONS, WHICH WOULD BE ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING TANK.

SO AND WITH THAT ITEM THERE, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE EXISTING TANK CAN ACTUALLY REMAIN ON SITE SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DEMOED CONCURRENTLY WITH A NEW TANK BEING BUILT.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION TO POSSIBLY SAVE SOME COSTS THERE IF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TANK REPLACEMENT.

SO GOING BACK, SPEAKING WITH STAFF.

AND SO A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT WOULD BE TO DO THE REPLACEMENT OF THE TANK WITH A ONE MILLION GALLON TANK FOR THE CHENANGO WATER PLANT THERE.

THAT'S IT.

AS JAVIER SAID DN TANKS CAME AND DID AN INSPECTION ON THAT, AND WHEN THEY TOOK A LOOK AT THE EXISTING DOME ON THE EXISTING GST GROUND STORAGE TANK THE THICKNESS OF THE DOME IS ONLY TWO INCHES RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'S FAIRLY SMALL.

THEY FOUND A HOLE IN THE TOP OF THE PIPE THAT CITY STAFF ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY SEALED IT UP TIGHT.

THEY NOTED THAT THERE WERE OTHER CRACKS THE DN TANKS AND ALSO CITY STAFF LOOKED AND DID KIND OF MONITOR THE DOME, DID NOT FIND ANY OTHER FULL DEPTH CRACKING ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

SO IT'S BELIEVED THAT THERE IS NO OTHER INFILTRATION INTO THE POTABLE WATER SOURCE.

SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT.

THAT IS AS WE GO.

OTHER OPTIONS THAT JAVIER TALKED ABOUT IS, IS WHEN THEY BUILD THE REHABILITATION ON THE EXTERIOR IS NOT ONLY WILL THEY PAINT IT, THEY WILL SEAL THE CRACKS, BUT THEY'LL ALSO PUT AN ACTUAL NEW DOME ROOF ON THE TOP OF IT.

THAT'S WHAT MADE IT GO SO, EXPENSIVE.

AT FIRST IT WAS THOUGHT TO BE MORE CHEAP, MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE REHABILITATION.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

THAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION ENDED RIGHT BACK AROUND THE 60S, EARLY 70S.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAD THOUGHT AT FIRST WAS YOU CAN REHABILITATE IT UNTIL THEY WENT THERE AND SAW THE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS DONE.

IT HAS HIT ITS LIFE EXPECTANCY.

IT IS TIME TO START REPLACING THAT NOW.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE COST, THE COST TO DO THE REHABILITATION IS ABOUT ONE

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MILLION DOLLARS.

YOU'LL GET ABOUT A TEN YEAR SERVICE LIFE OUT OF IT, 10 TO 15 YEARS FOR A MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT.

IF YOU WERE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT TO REBUILD THE ONE MILLION GALLONS SERVICE TANK YOU'LL ONLY BE PAYING ABOUT 400,000 DOLLARS MORE AND YOUR SERVICE LIFE EXPECTANCY GOES FROM 15 YEARS TO 80 YEARS.

SO IT'S A BIGGER BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.

IT'S MORE EFFICIENT.

YOU GET THAT IN THERE.

YOU SET YOURSELF UP FOR SUCCESS FOR THE REST OF, YOU, KNOW, ANYBODY IN HERE'S REMAINING YEARS AND CHILDREN'S YEARS.

SO IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT.

THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF IT, THAT IS A THIRD OF YOUR BOOSTER PUMP CAPACITY.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD DILIGENTLY AND EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD, TO SHOW THE RESIDENTS THAT WE DO KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM.

TCQ IF THEY COME AND TALK TO US THAT WE ARE MOVING AS FAST AS WE CAN TO GET THIS THING TURNED AROUND.

SPEAKING OF TCQ, HAVE WE MENTIONED ANYTHING TO THEM YET.

OKAY.

WE WILL WE SHOULD WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW WE FOUND PROBLEMS. RIGHT.

WE'VE ADDRESSED THE PROBLEM AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR.

LIKE I SAID, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T SAY THAT THERE IS ANY ACTIVE INFILTRATION.

WE'VE LOOKED THROUGH THE BOTTOM OF THE TV CAMERA, DIDN'T SEE ANY DAYLIGHT.

AND WE'VE ALSO JUST SO WE HAVE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO TRY TO ENSURE WATERTIGHT SEAL ON THERE.

BUT THE THE IDEA OF DOING A TEMPORARY REPAIR, SUCH AS AN EPOXY LINER, HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP WITH THE TANKS.

BUT THEY'RE AFRAID THAT TO PUT IN EPOXY LINER ON THERE, THEY HAVE TO CLEAN THE TOP OF THAT.

THAT TANK DON'T IF THEY PUT A PRESSURE WASH ON THERE, IT'S GOING TO BLOW HOLES IN IT MORE THAN LIKELY.

SO IT'S GOING TO DO MORE DAMAGE THAN GOOD.

SO THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO LEAVE IT AS IS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REPLACEMENT OF IT AND DON'T DAMAGE YOUR YOUR EXISTING TANK, BUT CONTINUE MONITORING FOR ANY KIND OF POTENTIAL INFILTRATION THAT MAY MAY COME ON.

SO, JOHN, YOU SAY THERE'S NO INFILTRATION, BUT IN OUR PACKAGE, WE HAVE PICTURES OF CRACKS ON THE NOSE WHERE THERE IS SOME PIECES MISSING IS THAT I MEAN, WE MEAN DRAIN WATER COULD STILL GET IN THERE, CORRECT? WELL, WE CANNOT WE CANNOT SEE THAT IT'S ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

OK, THAT'S THAT'S THE.

THE AREAS THAT WE DID SEE THAT THERE WAS A HOLE THERE.

CITY STAFF HAS WENT IN AND HAS FIXED THAT.

SO AS FAR AS US KNOWING FOR SURE THERE'S AN ACTIVE LEAK, WE DON'T KNOW.

BUT WE'RE CONTINUING MONITORING IT, JEFF.

AND THE STAFF IS DOING TESTING PER TCQ REQUIREMENTS.

WE'RE DOCUMENTING THAT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO POTENTIAL CONTAMINATION.

KEEPING A GOOD EYE ON THAT.

DOES IT INVOLVE GETTING A STICK AND PUTTING IT TO THE HOLE TO SEE IF IT GOES THROUGH? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GETTING ON THE ROOF IS THE ISSUE, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND AGAIN, WITH THAT ROOF BEING AS THIN AS IT IS, AS WE DO HAVE SOME PICTURES ON THE INSIDE THAT WAS IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE MANUAL, YOU CAN SEE THE REBAR THROUGH THE BOTTOM AND IT'S ONLY TWO INCHES.

SO I WOULD FEEL BETTER TO KEEP AS MANY PEOPLE OFF OF THE ROOF AS WE POTENTIALLY CAN.

OH YEAH.

WHY IS HDR ONLY RECOMMENDING A 500 GALLON AND NOT A WHAT WE HAVE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE PACKET, WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT THE CITY HAS IT'S SURPLUSES, ITS DEFICIENCIES, AND WE'VE INCLUDED THAT HERE IN THE BACK OF THIS CHART.

AND BASICALLY WHAT WE DID IS I WENT IN THERE AND LOOKED AT WHAT IS OUR TOTAL STORAGE CAPACITY.

THAT'S WHAT YOUR GST IS GOING TO PROVIDE, IS TOTAL STORAGE CAPACITY WHERE THAT THAT GOES TO.

SO YOU SEE THE NUMBER THAT'S IN GREEN HAS ACTUALLY BEEN REDUCED BY 500000 GALLONS.

SO IF WE PUT A 500000 GALLON TANK OUT THERE, IF YOU FOLLOWED ALL THE WAY ACROSS, WE'RE STILL HAVE A SURPLUS OF SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED FORTY FOUR CONNECTIONS.

SO THAT'S STILL THE HIGHEST NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE, EVEN WITH 500000 GALLONS OF YOUR STORAGE TANK, THE ONE THAT YOU DO HAVE, THE THE THE BIGGEST SHORTAGES, YOU'RE ALL OF IT AT STORAGE.

SO IT WAS JUST AN OPTION TO GET GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED WITH EVERYBODY, AS YOU POTENTIALLY COULD SAY.

NOW, YOU'RE NOT SAVING MUCH.

YOU'RE SAVING 300000 DOLLARS.

BUT YOU CAN USE THAT THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO FUND AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, WHICH WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION SOONER THAN LATER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.

AND CECIL AND I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT AND ALSO CHRIS WITTAKER HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE ST AND ITS LOCATION.

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BUT WE AGREE IF STAFF FEELS THAT IT'S EASIER WAY FOR TRAINING BECAUSE THEY ARE BLENDING WATER IN THAT TANK THAT IS THE CENTER OF THE CITY, THAT IF THEY WANT TO USE A MILLION GALLONS JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S THERE, THEN WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT.

YOU CAN'T GO WRONG.

YEAH, YOU CAN'T GO WRONG.

[INAUDIBLE] I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU NEED MORE [INAUDIBLE] THAN YOU DO ON THE GROUND STORAGE.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE, THOUGH, JOHN, THE THING THAT KIND OF SOLD ME BACK TO IT IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE, THE PRICE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND IS ONE POINT ONE AND THE ONE MILLION FOR DOUBLE THE CAPACITY IS ONLY THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE.

YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR BANG FOR YOUR BUCK, THE CITY SIZE CAN BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN 10 YEARS AND WE'VE BEEN KICKING OURSELVES GOING WHY DID WE SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY NOW [INAUDIBLE] TODAY'S DOLLARS AND FORTY CENTS A GALLON FOR A MILLION GALLON TANK AND TWO DOLLARS AND TWENTY CENTS A GALLON FOR A HALF MILLION GALLONS.

SO LOOKING AT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND, YOU GET QUITE A BIT MORE CAPACITY FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY.

NO, WE NEED TO GET STARTED PRETTY QUICK ON IT.

WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? CONSTRUCTION.

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO PULL THE TRIGGER? A MILLION GALLON TANK? WE WOULD COME BACK WITH THE PROPOSAL.

WE NEED TO PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER.

IT HAS TO GO OUT TO BID JUST DUE TO THE PRICE, THE COST OF IT FOR CONSTRUCTION.

WE WOULD NOT DO THE DESIGN SO MUCH ON A TANK AS MUCH AS SETTING UP PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME GEOTECHNICAL BORINGS BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A FOUNDATION IN THERE TO KEEP IT FROM MOVING AND BRAKING SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME SURVEY.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME GEOTECH AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME ENGINEERING ON THE [INAUDIBLE] WHAT'S THE FLASH TO BANG FROM FOR BUILDING THE TANK, TO MAKE IT OPERATIONAL? TO MAKE IT OPERATIONAL THAT I'LL GET BACK.

I THINK THEY SAID THEY COULD DO IT.

I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

THEY THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GET BACK WITH ME, BUT IT SHOULD BE SIX MONTHS A YEAR.

IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND SIX, SEVEN MONTHS.

OK, YEAH.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GUESS.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, [INAUDIBLE] THING THAT PEOPLE REMEMBER IS THAT ONE TIME YOU SAID SO HAVING THEM LOOK AT THE TANK, THEY'RE GETTING IT THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, THROUGH THEN AS WELL.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THE LONGEST TIME IN THE DESIGN ANYTIME YOU CHANGE ANY OF YOUR WATER FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY INTO YOUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH TCQ.

IT'S GOT TO CHANGE STATE, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

SO WHEN WE WHEN WE TAKE THAT TOWER OFF, WE NEED TO PUT IT IN THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE IT.

WHEN YOU GO TO ACTUALLY THE STATE SITES, THEY HAVE WHAT YOU HAVE SO MY CONCERN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN VARIOUS TERMS THROUGH THE PAST YEAR.

I MEAN, TO ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE DONE YESTERDAY.

I MEAN, HINDSIGHT, 20/20.

I KNOW.

I KNOW.

I KNOW.

I'M JUST SAYING IT'S JUST BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SIX TO SEVEN MONTH TURNAROUND IF WE'RE LUCKY AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT GOING OFFLINE, GET IT.

I GET IT.

I GET IT.

TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR AT LEAST [INAUDIBLE].

I KNOW WE HAVE THIS ON POINT IS LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.

AND WE BROUGHT THIS UP YEARS AGO, I THINK, TO MOVE IT OVER THERE BEHIND A REC CENTER.

AND THAT WAS TURNED DOWN QUICK.

AND REALLY THE INSPECTION WE DONE HERE COUNTY BROUGHT US [INAUDIBLE] IT WAS LIKE I SAID, IT WAS BELIEVED THAT THIS COULD BE TAKEN CARE OF IN A THREE MONTH REHABILITATION UNTIL THEY WENT OUT AND DID AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL INSPECTION ON THE TANK AND GAVE US A REPORT THAT'S WHEN HOW BAD IT REALLY WAS CAME OUT.

WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING, BUT THAT'S WHEN IT CAME OUT.

SO IS THERE A CONTINGENCY FOR AN EMERGENCY?

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YES.

SO OUR ESTEEMED ATTORNEY DID SOME WORK DURING A MEETING HERE AND GAVE US SOME OPTIONS TO SHORTEN THE TIME LINE BY I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE IT.

BUT ESSENTIALLY DECLARING AN EMERGENCY WHICH CAN EXPEDITE THE PROCESS EXPEDITES THE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE BIDS.

SO IT SHORTENS A COUPLE STEPS.

WE CAN'T SHORTEN THE TCQ STUFF, BUT AND WE'RE PUTTING IT ON RECORD SO THAT IN THE EVENT WE HAVE A FAILURE, YOU'VE ALREADY DECLARED AN EMERGENCY AND IDENTIFIED IT.

SO WE'RE NOT STANDING AROUND LOOKING LIKE, WELL, WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING AND WE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AND WE TOOK IT AS A ROUTINE ACTION.

THE PLANT IS WHERE IT IS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CENTER OF TOWN.

BACK BEFORE MOST OF US WERE EVEN THOUGHT OF.

WATER WELL WAS WAS DRILLED.

THERE IS SOME OTHER WATER WELLS YOU SEE ON THE SCHEMATIC THERE THAT WE'RE DRILLED NORTH OF CHENANGO STREET, ALL THE WATER PUMPED TO CHENANGO STREET.

AND THAT'S HOW THAT'S HOW IT ENDED UP WHERE IT IS.

THEN WE BUILT ANOTHER ONE MILLION GALLON TANK OUT AT HENDERSON ROAD WHEN VWA CAME ON LINE.

I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT THIS TANK, DOES IT NEED TO BE RIGHT HERE HOLD ON I HADN'T FINISHED MY QUESTION, DO WE NEED TO PUT IT SOMEPLACE ELSE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS, SOMETHING BETTER? I LOOKED BEHIND THE RECREATION CENTER.

I DON'T KNOW WHO NICKS THAT.

BUT IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO PUT IT, A BETTER PLACE TO PUT IT, THEN WE PUT IT PUT IT THERE.

THE CONTRACTOR CAN CAN BUILD IT WHERE IT IS IS GOING TO BE TOUGH, THEY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA SPACE TO GO.

THEY GOT TO LAY DOWN THE WALLS WITH THESE, [INAUDIBLE] THE SAME KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THE WALLS ARE BUILT IN PIECES.

THEY PUT THEM UP AND BIND THEM TOGETHER SO YOU GOT TO HAVE A PLACE TO CAST THESE WALL PIECES AT.

SO [INAUDIBLE] USE UP EVERY BIT OF THAT SPACE OVER THERE.

I THINK THIS IS THE BEST PACE NOW SINCE AT THAT TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE JAMISON TIED IN AND NOW WE'VE GOT JAMISON TIED INTO THE SOUTH END.

SO CHENANGO WORKS GOOD WHERE IT'S AT AND WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE].

SO MY OPINION CHENANGO [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, I JUST SAYING I JUST WANT US TO THINK ABOUT IT.

LET YOU KNOW ALL THE POWER IS THERE.

WE UPGRADED THE WATER LINES [INAUDIBLE] AND EVERYTHING.

YES.

THAT WAS THE OTHER THING IS I WENT TOOK A LOOK AT IF WE DIDN'T MOVE WHERE COULD WE MOVE IT? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SIZING OF THE PIPE.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BE AN EIGHT INCH PIPE FOR WATER TO PUSH WATER NEEDS TO BE TWELVE INCHES OR RIGHT AROUND IN THAT AREA.

SO YOU'RE VERY LIMITED ON THE AVAILABLE INFRASTRUCTURE TO MOVE IT TO WHERE YOU HAVE BECAUSE MOST OF YOUR PIPES ARE EIGHT INCHES.

YEAH.

SO IF YOU WERE TO MOVE IT TO ANOTHER PLACE, YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, REDO ALL YOUR PIPING TO GET IT OUT TO THE BASICALLY THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IN GENERAL.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS THE POTENTIAL OF FINDING LAND AND MAKING THAT ACQUISITION IN A TIMELY MANNER.

NO, I WOULDN'T BE, I'D BE PUTTING IT ON A PIECE OF OWNED PROPERTY AND YOU COULDN'T.

I HAVE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE WAY THIS THING OPERATES SINCE IT BEGAN TO OPERATE, WE HAVE TO PUMP WATER TWICE TO USE THIS PLANT.

YOU GET YOUR WATER.

MOST OF THE WATER COMES TO THE CITY.

ALL THE WATER BASICALLY FOR THE MOST PART OF YEAR, ALL COMES TO CHENANGO TO HENDERSON ROAD PLANT.

[INAUDIBLE] TWO MILLION GALLONS A DAY OR HOWEVER MANY, ONE POINT EIGHT PLUS THE WELL THAT'S OUT THERE AND IT'S MIXED TOGETHER AND THEN IT'S PUMPED ACROSS TOWN INTO THIS TANK.

SO IT CAN THEN BE PUMPED AGAIN INTO THE SYSTEM.

AND THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SPENDING MONEY PUMPING WATER TWO TIMES.

IF THERE'S ANOTHER METHOD TO FILL THIS TANK UP TO SYSTEM PRESSURE THAT THOUGHT.

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I'M ADDING JOB TASKS TO YOU.

BUT FINANCIALLY, ECONOMICALLY SPEAKING, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SPENDING MONEY JUST TO KEEP THE TANK WHERE IT'S AT.

YES, IT'S MORE OF A BOOSTER STATION.

WHAT IT IS.

IT KEEPS THE.

IT GOES TO CHENANGO THEN IT [INAUDIBLE] OUT INTO THE SYSTEM.

BUT IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE THERE BECAUSE IT KEEPS THE PRESSURE UP.

YES.

AND FILLS THE TOWERS UP.

IT MOSTLY FILLS NORTHSIDE TOWER UP AND KEEPS THE LEVEL TO THE NORTHSIDE BECAUSE WHEN WE LOSE CHENANGO.

NORTHSIDE STARTS TO DROP PRETTY QUICK.

SO THE COUNTY KEEPS THE EASTERN SIDE BUILT UP.

SO NOW WE HAVE VWAS COMING IN TO JAMIESON, TOO.

SO NOW WE HAVE TWO POINTS OF VWA WATER.

SO IT'S MORE OF A WHAT WE CALL A BOOSTER STATION.

IT IS.

YES.

SO WHAT'S GOING UP THE SOUTHSIDE TOWER? JAMIESON AND WHAT'S LEFT OVER THAT GO THAT WAY.

YES.

THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR PRESSURE WILL COME FROM.

ARE WE GOING TO BOOST JAMIESON UP A LITTLE BIT.

TAKE CARE OF MORE OF THE SOUTH END OF TOWN? IT'S VOLUME, JOHN, RATHER THEN PRESSURE [INAUDIBLE] BE THE SAME HEIGHT.

SO UNTIL YOU HAVE A MAIN LINE LEAK OR SOMETHING.

THAT'S WHEN YOU [INAUDIBLE].

I THINK HIS PLAN IS NEEDED.

WELL, SHOOT ME, BUT I HAD A CRAZY NOTION TO YOU'VE BEEN THERE.

WE STILL HAVE THE OLD SOUTHSIDE TOWER UP IN THERE.

IT'S STILL IT'S FUNCTIONING.

THAT'S THE OTHER [INAUDIBLE] FOR NOT NOW.

RIGHT NOW, THE NEW TOWER IS JUST FOR LOOKS.

OK.

SO WE HAVE A HALF A MILLION GALLONS OF WATER IN THE AIR.

IT COULD SPRING A LEAK ANY DAY LIKE IT HAS.

LIKE, IT HAS BEEN A BIG, LONG ICICLE BUT I MEAN, I [INAUDIBLE] IF THAT WOULD HELP US AT ALL, WE'D HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY CHANGE ORDER THE CONTRACT WE HAVE TO TELL THEM NOT TO TEAR IT DOWN TO THE TIMING WAS RIGHT AND THEN TEAR THE TOWER DOWN, IF THAT WOULD.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVEN I HADN'T THOUGHT THAT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

JUST THAT WE HAVE AN EXTRA HALF MILLION GALLONS OF STORAGE UP IN THE AIR RIGHT NOW.

SO.

YES, I AGREE.

I DON'T MEAN TO BE THE ONLY PERSON SPEAKING, BUT I AGREE IT'S AN EMERGENCY THING.

IT'S WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

BUT I HESITATE JUST TO GO TO ONE VENDOR TO BUY THE TANK, [INAUDIBLE] MAKES THE SAME PHONE CALL TO LIKE THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS AT THE SAME TIME, SAY, PRELOAD, [INAUDIBLE], THESE OTHER FOLKS, ALL I GOT TO HAVE A TANK.

WE CAN GET MORE QUOTES.

I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE DO AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FORMAL PROCESS OF PUTTING AN RFP.

THERE'S TYPICALLY TWO MAIN COMPANIES DN TANKS AND THERE'S ANOTHER TANK THAT DOES THIS TYPE OF WORK.

YEAH.

SO WE COULD GET SOLICITATIONS AND IT'S MUCH FASTER TO GO AHEAD AND SOLICIT THREE BIDS THAN IT IS FOR THE ADVERTISING.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS SO WE CAN EXPEDITE [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S WAYS TO TRIM WEEKS OFF TO PROCESS.

YES, SIR.

THE WAY THESE THINGS ARE DONE, THE TANK MANUFACTURER DESIGNED THEIR TANKS.

YOU GIVE THEM A GEOTECHNICAL REPORT.

THEY KNOW WHAT THE FOUNDATION HAS TO LOOK LIKE BASED UPON BASED UPON THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT.

AND A LOT LIKE JOHN AND JAVIER SAID, HE JUST THE DESIGN THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS WHERE TO PUT IT ON, HOW TO HOOK UP THE PUMPS OR WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO SIT AROUND DESIGNING A WATERTIGHT AT THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED ON THE ELVEATED STORAGE TOWER LANDMARK DESIGNED THEIR TANK.

SO.

MR. MAYOR.

YES, SIR.

I MOVE THAT ONE WE FIND THAT THE STATE OF THE CURRENT OR THE CURRENT STATE OF THE DISREPAIR AT THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AT THE CHENANGO WATER PLANT THREATENS THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS CITIES RESIDENTS TWO FINDING THAT

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SUCH DISREPAIR CONSTITUTES AN EMERGENCY.

THREE, AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS FOR THE PROCUREMENT AND PURCHASE OF A REPLACEMENT GROUND STORAGE TANK IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2-146, SUBSECTION H OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND SECTION 252.022.

SUBSECTION A2 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

AND 4 FINDING THAT SUCH EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS IN THE RELATED PROCUREMENT ARE NECESSARY TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE CITY RESIDENTS AND TO ABATE THE CURRENT EMERGENCY CONDITIONS CAUSED BY THE CURRENT STATE OF DISREPAIR OF THE CHENANGO WATER PLANT GROUND STORAGE TANK.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

FRANCES WE'LL GIVE YOU A COPY OF THAT ONE.

[INAUDIBLE] I'LL SECOND THAT.

WE.

PLEASE DON'T AMEND THIS MOTION.

[INAUDIBLE] BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YOU MISPRONOUNCED THE THIRD WORD ON THE SECOND LINE.

SOMEBODY.

SOMEBODY HAS SOME VERY NICE PENMANSHIP.

IT'S EXCELLENT.

[INAUDIBLE] INSTANT RECALL OF THE STATUTES LOOKED I NOTICED EVERYBODY WENT A LITTLE BIT LIKE THIS, ALRIGHT, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? SO JUST CLARIFYING THAT WE'RE GOING FOR MAIN GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK.

MILLION.

AND ALSO FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE OLD TANK.

I MEAN, IT'S ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS.

WE'RE GETTING RID OF A FUTURE PROBLEM NOW WITH THE CURRENT COST VERSUS PUSHING THAT DOWN THE ROAD FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY HAZARD ON THIS ITEM.

SO I DON'T NEED AN AMENDMENT OF THE MOTION I'M JUST CLARIFYING FOR THE RECORD.

MULTIPLE VENDORS.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THE PUMP STATION ITSELF OR WILL YOU JUST.

I MEAN, I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T LOOKED IN THERE IN A LONG, LONG TIME.

PART OF THE SITE DESIGN AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE KEEP THE PUMPHOUSE WHERE IT IS OR MOVE THE PUMP HOUSE TO SOMEPLACE ELSE.

OR I'LL GET WITH JEFF, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY GOT, WHAT, TWO NEW PUMPS OUT THERE ? OK.

THEN PUT NEW VALVING INTO YOUR CONNECTION AND COME ON OUT WITH IT.

HAVING PROBLEMS LEADING UP TO BEFORE WE CAN GET TO.

YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO COME UP A YEAR FROM NOW KICKING MYSELF FOR NOT SPENDING ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

IF WE GOT TO CORRECT IT NOW.

SO I'M GOING TO HIRE HDR TO RUN THIS PROJECT TO MAKE YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT ALL THE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE PIPING THAT'S ACCESSIBLE OR THE BUILDING OR WHATEVER, SO THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT.

WE JUST DON'T BUILD A TANK AND FORGET ABOUT OTHER THINGS.

IT'S NOT PER DIEM, IS IT? IT'S NOT ANYTHING/ I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANYTHING IN WRITING OTHER THAN AN ONGOING CONTRACT.

AND THIS IS TOO BIG FOR US TO TAKE OFF.

BUT I'LL HAVE I'LL HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT PROPOSAL TO YOU ALL AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START GETTING WITH THESE CONTRACTORS, ESPECIALLY DN TANKS STARTED AT GETTING SOME OF THE SPECIFICATIONS, PERFORMANCE SPECS IN AND START GETTING GEOTECH COST SURVEYORS COST, YOU KNOW, START PUTTING THIS THING TOGETHER, OK? SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT ON THE PLATE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

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I WAS GOING TO SOLICIT NOT MUCH I WANT ME JUST TO TELL THEM TO GO TELL THEM TO GET ME A PROPOSAL RIGHT AWAY.

I COULD GET A PROPOSAL RIGHT AWAY, THEN RUN IT BY CHRIS.

AND IF WE THINK IT'S GOOD AND WE'LL TELL CHRIS, CHRIS, WE THINK THIS IS ACCEPTABLE AND WE CAN TAKE OFF THAT WAY AND THAT'LL EXPEDITE IT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO, ESPECIALLY ON THE SUBS, THAT MAY BE A WAY TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS THING CRANKED UP A LITTLE FASTER.

AND THE THING IS ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, YOU CAN'T BID PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

I MEAN, WE TYPICALLY USE A CERTAIN FIRM TO DO OUR GEOTECHNICAL.

[INAUDIBLE] CERTAIN USE ANOTHER FIRM TO DO OUR OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

JUST YOU TRUST THEM JUST TELL THEM TO GO TO WORK AND DO IT.

OK, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GET THE PROPOSAL IN.

I'LL GO WITH CHRIS.

CHRIS, THIS IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD ON THAT SO WE CAN GET THAT GOING, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE LONGEST TIME CONSUMING IS GETTING OUT THERE, DOING THE BORINGS, GETTING ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ALL THE ANGLES.

AND I DON'T WANT TO BORE EVERYBODY WITH THE SOIL CONDITIONS.

I CAN TALK ABOUT DIRT FOR A WHILE IF Y'ALL WANT.

THIS IS PRO BONO.

RIGHT.

I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD DIRECTION AND I THINK THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND.

KEEP THE COSTS DOWN.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

ALL RIGHT ANY MORE DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE.

HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

PASS THAT TO MR. FRANCES, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER 20 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ANGLETON OPERATIONS CENTER ALSO KNOWN AS, AOC FUNDING LOGISTICS ACTION PLAN.

[20. Discussion and possible action on the Angleton Operations Center funding logistics action plan. ]

CHRIS.

CHRIS, WHO IS THAT? MARTHA, I'M SORRY.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE TEMPORARY BUILDINGS NOW BECAUSE WE HAD TO MOVE OUT OF THE OLD FACILITY.

WE'VE GOT OPERATIONS UP AND RUNNING AND WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON.

AND SO SOME OF THE GUIDANCE YOU'VE GIVEN US IS, YOU KNOW, WORK FROM THE CURRENT PROPERTY.

THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE.

SO WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING FOR THE PATH TO CHOOSE AND THEN TO MOVE THIS ON.

AND BECAUSE THIS WILL HAVE TO BE FUNDED STARTING IN JANUARY.

SO IT GETS IN OUR DEBT SERVICE FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO BUT WE WANT TO HAVE THAT PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE.

THE DRAWING IN YOUR PACKAGE JUST KIND OF A CONCEPTUAL PIECE.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HIREED MRB TO DO THE DESIGN WORK, WE GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS ABOUT ONE STORY VERSUS TWO STORY AND REALLY KIND OF FIGURE OUT FIGURE THAT OUT WHAT MRB'S DONE [INAUDIBEL] HERE, HANGING INTO THE END.

SHE DID THE FEASIBILITY STUFF FOR US AND MET WITH STAFF ON SOME OF THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN THINGS.

AND SO WE'RE SEEKING GUIDANCE.

WE'RE KIND OF SEEKING MAYBE SOME ACTION AND MOVE THIS ON.

OK, SO, YES, I MEAN, JUST MY QUESTION RIGHT OFF THE BAT IS I KNOW WE I GUESS THE TWO OPTIONS FOR LAND SITE WOULD EITHER BE THE CURRENT FACILITY A OR B, WHERE WE'VE JUST RECENTLY DEMOED ON THE ANDERSON PROJECT OR THE ANDERSON PLACE.

NO? THERE'S NOT ENOUGH.

NOT ENOUGH.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I WAS ASKING.

BUT THERE'S A COUPLE YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT PROPERTIES BEFORE IN ANGLETON AND WE'VE EYEBALLED A POTENTIAL PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, PROS, PROS AND CONS TO BOTH.

SO WE'RE KIND OF SEEKING IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THIS AND LET'S MOVE IT ON IF YOU'RE IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE OPTIONS.

LET ME ASK.

LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO OFFICE SET UP, MAYBE.

ONE WOULD BE AN EAST END AND ONE WOULD BE A WEST END KIND OF SET UP.

SO WHICH SIDE'S WHICH? WELL, SO, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT, IT WAS ON THE EAST SIDE AND THEN

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PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS IS ON THE WEST SIDE.

OK.

SOME DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD RECENTLY INCLUDE LOOKING AT A SECOND STORY.

SO YOU TAKE THE IT PORTION OFF AND INTEGRATE IT INTO THE WEST SIDE AND WHO GOES WHERE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF CAN CAN BE FIGURED OUT LATER.

EXACTLY.

BUT WE'VE KIND OF FIGURED OUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR BOTH CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS, AS WE CAN PROJECT THEM FOR THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS.

WHAT'S THE STANDALONE BUILDING OUT THERE THAT WAS BEING UTILIZED? WHAT'S THE IDEA WITH THAT BUILDING? THAT'S JUST THE TWO BIG PIECE ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S A LITTLE TWO BAY SHED.

NO, NORTH SIDE.

THERE'S TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH.

IT'S JUST A TWO BAY LITTLE MAINTENANCE WHAT DO WE PLAN ON DOING WITH THAT? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT DOWN THE WHOLE BACK WALL [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE.

I JUST BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS STILL A FRAMED STRUCTURE ITSELF, THOUGH.

IT IS THE WHOLE BACK [INAUDIBLE] THE BIG BEAMS. OKAY, I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN STILL UTILIZE THAT.

SO I LIKE THE DESIGNS, I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF A TWO STORY, ESPECIALLY ON THIS ENTRANCE OFF OF [INAUDIBLE] ROAD, WEST SIDE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BECAUSE MAN, I'D SURE HATE TO SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT AS WE GROW AS JASON NEEDS MORE STORAGE, AS YOU HAVE MORE PERSONNEL WORKING UNDER YOU AND WE'VE GOT IT ALREADY, WE JUST BUDGETED FOR AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR NOW [INAUDIBLE] PARKS.

SO I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT TO FIGURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GATEWAY SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT CECIL LIGHTLY BRINGS UP, THAT'S MORE PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE.

AND WE'VE GOT NEW PARKS COMING ONLINE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST SEEMS LIKE WE BETTER PLAN BIG.

YEAH, AND EVEN IF THAT MEANS WE BUILD A SECOND FLOOR, THAT'S JUST BONES, THAT'S NOT WALLED, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE RUN YOUR WIRING BECAUSE IT'S CABLING IS THERE? IT'S READY TO BE ACCESSED WHEN YOU'RE READY TO START PUTTING WALLS UP AND GOING WITH IT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM HMM.

ALTHOUGH, MAYBE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA, BUT THAT'S FINE.

NO, WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS, I WENT, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TWO STORY? BECAUSE, HONESTLY, IF YOU GO WIDE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT BIG TRUCKS COMING THROUGH THE BACK AND BACK THERE.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH ROOM IF YOU PUT ANOTHER OFFICE ON THE BACK SIDE AND YOU CAN MOVE AROUND, YOU'RE BASICALLY [INAUDIBLE] OFF TWO SIDES OF THE BUILDING.

AND TO ME, THE ONE MISTAKE WE'VE ALWAYS MADE IN THE PAST IS ALWAYS GOING ONE STORY FLAT AND TRYING TO GO OUT.

AND THEN WE ALWAYS WONDER, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW? WE'VE LOST ALL OF OUR ROOM TO GROW AND EXPAND.

IF WE GO UP, I'M ACTUALLY GOING, YOU KNOW, JUST YOU'LL ALL THINK I'M NUTS, BUT I'M SITTING THERE THINKING, YOU KNOW, THREE STORY BECAUSE TWO STORY'S GOING TO GET FILLED UP PRETTY QUICK.

MAYBE I'M WRONG.

MAYBE YOU GO TO STORIES ABOUT EAST AND WEST, WEST AND EAST.

I LIKE THE BACKEND BEING OPEN SO THAT THEY CAN GET THERE.

SO IT'S WE GOT [INAUDIBLE] AND VACUUM TRUCKS AND OTHER STUFF.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SQUEEZING THEM THROUGH THE BACK END IF WE EVEN CAN DO IT, RIGHT? ME AND MEGAN WAS TALKING TODAY, I MEAN THE MORE WE EXPAND, GO UP OR WHATEVER, WE STILL NEED ROOM FOR MORE VEHICLES, MORE EQUIPMENT.

WE HAVE JUST ABOUT OUTGROWN THAT.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF LAND THERE, BUT WE HAVE ALL THAT LAND ON THE BACK SIDE.

WE HAVE EQUIPMENT BACK THERE.

WHAT ABOUT BUYING THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR TO THE NORTH? I MEAN, TAKING THAT WHOLE BLOCK WOULD BE REALLY ALL THE WAY TO KIBER, WOULD BE YOUR ACTUAL LONG TERM ANSWER TO ALL YOUR ISSUES THAT YOU'VE HAD ABOUT THE RAILROAD TRACK AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] JUST [INAUDIBLE] AROUND.

WE NEED A BETTER WAY TO GET OUT OF THERE, AND WE DO.

BUT IF WE MOVE TO THE NORTH, IF YOU BUY THAT NEXT BLOCK.

[INAUDIBLE] HAVE ACCESS TO ROADS THERE? I HAVE TO GO LOOK AT A MAP.

YOU'D WANT TO GO TO THE SOUTH?

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SAFETY ISSUE, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY MAJOR CONCERN WITH THE EXISTING SITE IS THE SAFETY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT CROSSING ESSENTIALLY FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC TO JUST GET TO OUR SITE.

ONE THING WOULD BE GETTING AN EASEMENT ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY TO CONNECT TO DWYER.

YEAH, I MEAN, THE DIFFERENCE AND SOMEBODY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, GOING TWO STORY VERSUS THREE STORY, YOU'RE STILL PUTTING IN THE MONEY FOR AN ELEVATOR.

I MEAN, MOST OF THE BIG COST THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, IT'S JUST AND LIKE TRAVIS MENTIONED, LEAVING THE THIRD FLOOR UNFINISHED.

YOU KNOW, THE INVESTMENT IS ALREADY THERE WITH THE ELEVATOR AND THE FACILITIES, THE WATER AND PIPING, ALL THAT, YOU JUST LEAVE THAT THIRD FLOOR UNFINISHED UNTIL A CERTAIN TIME WE NEED IT, GIVES YOU THE EXPANSION FOR, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, JASON'S GOING TO NEED IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS OR MEGAN OR JEFF, FOR THAT MATTER.

I MEAN, I CAN JUST WE I'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I FEEL LIKE WE DID IT WRONG THE FIRST TIME WITH THIS BUILDING.

AND I'D HATE TO SEE US DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN.

YOU'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF SPACE FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING IF YOU STORE, FILLING UP A THREE STORY BUILDING WITH...

TO YOUR POINT, JOHN, YOU KNOW, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THIS IS PROBABLY NOT A TOTAL BUILDING BUILDOUT.

SO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE PEOPLE FOR THE POTENTIAL OFFICES.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD OUT SOME OF THE SPACES.

BUT IT'S LIKE YOU SAID BEING AVAILABLE SO THAT AS WE GROW WE COULD.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DID WRONG HERE.

AND PROBABLY WITH THE PED, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE WENT UP BACK THEN TOO, HINDSIGHT.

I WILL JUST SAY THAT'S A GREAT IDEA WITH BUILDING IT OUT.

WHEN I WORKED AT THE HOSPITAL, WHEN THEY DID THEIR EXPANSION, THEY DIDN'T BUILD IT ALL OUT.

THEY HAD ROOM FOR LIKE SIX SURGERY SUITES, THEY ONLY BUILT THREE THE FIRST TIME.

AS THEY SAW ACTIVITY, THEN THEY BUILT THE OTHER SURGERY SUITES OUT.

SO THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO BUILD--THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING WITH THE COURTHOUSE.

YEAH, JUST BUILD A SHELL AND THEN YOU CAN DESIGN IT LATER AND ADD LATER TO IT.

SO IS THAT I'M TRYING TO, TO THE SOUTH, IS THAT WHERE THE MUNICIPAL POLE USED TO BE? OFF DWYER.

YES, A BLOCK OR SO.

WE COULDN'T OF CONNECT THEM? I THOUGHT FOR SURE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT THERE IS AN ACCESS OR AN EASEMENT THROUGH THERE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GO TO DWYER OFF OF.

WE HAVE TO FILL IN THE DITCHES BACK THERE, BUT WE COULD GET THERE.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO THINK OF, Y'ALL ARE ALREADY CONCERNED ABOUT LAND, WHICH IS FINE.

WANT TO DO IT RIGHT.

I MEAN, THAT'S A RETENTION POND RIGHT THERE, BUT, JOHN, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA? JUST TRYING TO GET SOME IDEAS ON THE RETENTION DETENTION ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE STORAGE FACILITY.

THAT'S THE DETENTION FOR THE STORAGE FACILITY.

[INAUDIBLE] AND THERE'S NO ROADWAY EASEMENT UP THROUGH THERE.

THERE IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT BACK THERE.

[INAUDIBLE] WHO'S YOUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH? THAT'S THE MAN WHO OWNS THE USED CAR LOT ON 35; THAT'S HIS OVERFLOW LOT.

WELL, NOT THE WHEELS, BUT [INAUDIBLE] WAS ON THE CORNER, BUT JUST ADJACENT TO HIM.

[INAUDIBLE] BETWEEN THE WHEEL PLACE AND THE OLD APPLE CHEVROLET, THAT'S THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNS THE USED CAR LOT ON 35 HERE.

THAT'S HIS OVERFLOW LOT.

THERE'S A LOT OF LAND BACK THERE, UNDEVELOPED, USED.

BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF TWO STORY.

IF WE DEEM NECESSARY TO DO THREE, WELL, FUTURE GROWTH, WE DON'T WANT TO SHOOT OURSELVES SHORT.

? OH, GO AHEAD, MARTHA; I'M SORRY.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THE TEAM, WE'RE KIND OF GATHERED AROUND YOU THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING THIS PROJECT, WE OFFERED SOME OTHER OPTIONS.

SO COULD WE TALK THROUGH ALL THOSE OPTIONS AS WELL? BY ALL MEANS.

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OK, SO THE SECOND OPTION WAS AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT WOULD BE CHEAPER AND QUICKER IF WE DID A PURCHASING [INAUDIBLE].

SO THAT'S AN OPTION.

AND WHERE WAS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING A PROPOSAL BACK TO YOU FOR THAT? WE HAVE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES JUST TO SAY, IS THERE ANYTHING OUT HERE? HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE DO WE NEED? COULD THIS WORK? SO WE HAVE TOURED A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES.

I THINK I GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

THE COUNTY PURCHASED THE OLD WAL-MART.

AISD, PURCHASED THE OLD LUMBER YARD.

UTMB PURCHASED BRAND FOR THOSE REASONS.

SO, WE PUT THAT IN THERE FOR CONSIDERATION.

FOR ME, THAT'S NOT OUR BEST INTEREST AS A CITY.

EVERY TIME ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS WENT OFF THE MARKET, THEN THAT WAS TAXABLE REVENUE THAT GOT LOST BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE US MONEY.

THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO GIVE US MONEY.

WE HAVE LESS BUILDINGS TO MARKET EVERY TIME WE DO THAT.

THAT'S BEEN MY BIGGEST STANCE AGAINST THIS.

I KNOW IT'S NOT POPULAR TO THE STAFF, BUT THAT'S MY ANSWER IS THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OTHER BUILDINGS.

THE GO KAWASAKI BUILDING.

WE TALKED ABOUT AND THANKFULLY WE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] MOTOR TOOK IT OVER.

AND SO THAT'S TAXABLE REVENUE BACK ON THE BOOKS.

HOW MANY YEARS OF TAXABLE REVENUE WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE THAT OFFSET AND THE SAVINGS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT TASK.

SAY IF YOUR PROJECT COST WAS A TWO, THREE MILLION DOLLAR SAVINGS, WHATEVER IT WAS, YOU KNOW, CALCULATE THAT BY THE TAX REVENUE THAT YOU GET FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO DO BECAUSE IT'S INTANGIBLES.

BECAUSE, JASON, AS YOU'RE ALLUDING TO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE JOBS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING AT, SO THEY COULD BE SHOPPING IN OUR STORES EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS OPPOSED TO RELOCATING OUR BUILDING AND LEAVING ANOTHER EXISTING EYESORE INSIDE OF AN AREA THAT ALREADY NEEDS REHABBING.

SO TO THAT POINT, JOHN, IF IT IS AN EYE SORE IN THAT AREA, IS THAT WHERE WE WANT TO PUT A FOUR TO SIX MILLION DOLLAR BUILDING? I WOULD RATHER US INVEST RIGHT THERE AND CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT SHOULD.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT LOT TO THE NORTH OF US CAN IMPROVE AS WELL.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

WHAT ABOUT--THIS IS CRAZY.

MAYBE IT'S FOOLISH.

MAYBE IT'S LATE.

THE PROPERTY AT E KIBER ON THE CORNER THERE, YOU CALL IT THE OVERFLOW LOT.

LOOK AT THE NORTH.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

NO, RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU WERE, JUST NORTH OF IT, YEAH.

THE EMPTY LOT? RIGHT.

SO MEGAN'S ISSUE OF THE SAFETY.

YOU'RE OFF OF KIBER, THOUGH, AND YOU GO RIGHT OFF THE, YEAH, BUT THEY USE THE OVERPASS.

IF THERE'S A I'M SORRY.

SO EVEN IF YOU GO NORTH, IF IT IS PRIOR TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SPENT MUCH TIME ON THE SOUTH SIDE, BUT THE RAILROAD GOES THROUGH SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.

SO EVEN IF YOU ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, IF IT'S NOT NORTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WE'RE DOING A LOOP UNDER AND CROSSING FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC TO GO OVER THE OVERPASS.

SO THAT'S NOT RESOLVING ANY SAFETY ISSUES THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH.

ANOTHER TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AMONG STAFF HAS BEEN THE NEED FOR CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE.

AND I THINK THAT LOCATION WOULD BE A GREAT LOCATION TO REHAB FOR CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE AND THEN CHOOSE ANOTHER SITE FOR THE AOC BUILDING.

THAT WAS THE THIRD OPTION WAS PURCHASING PROPERTY AND BUILDING.

TO CECIL POINT ABOUT THE LAST DISCUSSION.

IS THAT THE BEST LOCATION? SO I'M GOING TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.

SO WHY WOULD WE WANT THE BEST LOCATION? WHY WOULD THE CITY WANT TO TAKE PRIME LOCATION FROM A FUTURE VENDOR? WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GET THAT CITY WHERE WE'RE GETTING NO TAX INCOME FOR FOR A POSSIBLE COMPETITOR TO COME IN? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MIKE BARNES AND BRINGING IN INDUSTRY.

WHY WOULD WE SNEAK THAT FROM THEM? WHY WOULD WE TAKE IT FROM SOMEBODY WHO WOULD COME IN AND HELP OFFSET OUR TAX

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BASE? WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THAT NOTE IS WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY IDENTIFIED WHERE WE WANT INDUSTRY, RIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE A LAND PLAN THAT WE'VE ADOPTED.

AND MOST INDUSTRY THAT I'VE SEEN IN ANGLETON, WHILE I HAVEN'T GROWN UP HERE, I SEE IT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.

SO ANOTHER OPTION TO CONSIDER IS DEMOLISHING AND SELLING THE PROPERTY FOR SOMEONE TO BUILD FOR INDUSTRY.

THE OTHER REASON WHY IT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.

AND SO IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION THAT WE ARE ABLE TO BE WHERE I THINK JEFF AND I WERE TALKING, A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

WHY WOULD WE BE TAKING OUR SERVICES FURTHER SOUTH? AND ALSO TO THE POINT OF INTANGIBLES, WHETHER OR NOT THAT BUILDING WOULD BE LEASED OR PURCHASED AND SOMETHING GO IN THERE, THERE'S NO TELLING WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO TAX ROLL OR NOT TAX ROLL, RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE JUST GOT THE PROPERTY SITTING THERE.

SO THAT MEANS TO ME THAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING AGAINST MOVING IT? NO, I'M SAYING--THAT'S WHAT I HEAR WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IT'S JUST GOING TO SIT THERE, AND NOT--NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING A SITE TO MOVE INTO THAT'S EXISTING AND TAKING THAT TAX ROLL.

WHAT'S THAT? I'M TALKING ABOUT, PURCHASING A SITE THAT'S EXISTING AND TAKING THAT OFF THE TAX ROLL.

HOW LONG WILL THAT SIT AND NOT EMPLOY PEOPLE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, HAVE MOVEMENT? WE DON'T KNOW.

IT'S INTANGIBLE.

I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS OVER A YEAR AGO.

AND I MEAN, COUNCIL KIND OF GAVE THOUGHT AND DIRECTION.

BUT I MEAN, I'M HEARING FROM STAFF THAT YOU STILL DON'T SUPPORT THE DECISION AND YOU KEEP ARGUING THE POINT.

I MEAN, I'VE SAID WHAT I'VE SAID AND I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL.

WELL, IF YOU DECIDE TO ABANDON THE EXISTING SITE.

IT'S GOING TO SIT THERE LIKE THE OLD APPLE CHEVROLET SITE IS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GET SOLD.

IT COULD BE REHABBED FOR CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE, WHICH WE DESPERATELY NEED.

WE DON'T HAVE STORAGE IN THIS BUILDING.

THERE'S NOT STORAGE AT THE PV.

PARKS AND REC COULD USE SOME STORAGE SPACE, I'M SURE.

I KNOW [INAUDIBLE] NEEDS STORAGE SPACE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THAT.

AND YOU COULD MAKE THE BUILDING LOOK NICE AND CLEAN UP THAT AREA, MAKE SOME MORE GRASSY AREA ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN AND MAKE IT LOOK GOOD.

AND IT FILLS A HOLE THAT WE NEED TO STORE IT.

WE GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO WHAT TO DO WITH THE OLD CITY BARN PROPERTY NOW THAT WE'VE TORN OUR CITY BARN DOWN.

SO WE MENTIONED IT IN THE PARKS BOARD MEETING YESTERDAY FOR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH SIDE PARKS AND POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING RID OF THE OLD MUNICIPAL POOL SITE AND, YOU KNOW, MOVING OVER TO THAT AREA.

THERE WAS NO, I GUESS, REAL GUIDANCE OR DIRECTION FOR THAT YET.

YEAH, SO WE DON'T HAVE PLANS FOR IT OTHER THAN WE'VE GOT SOME EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CONTAINERS OUT THERE FOR WATER MRES AND OTHER CONTINGENCIES CAN BE MOVED AT WHATEVER POINT.

I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT OF SAFETY, BUT THAT ALSO HOLDS TRUE FOR A PURCHASER.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO LEASE IT OR BUY IT AND THEN LEASE IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, BUT DON'T WORRY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CROSS FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO CROSS.

I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME; THEY'RE BUYING THE SAME TROUBLES.

IT'S A SELL POINT AGAINST IT FOR RESELLING THAT LOT.

I MEAN, IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY.

DOESN'T MATTER IF WE OWN IT OR IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES AND BUYS IT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUES.

IT WOULD MAKE IT POTENTIALLY UNATTRACTIVE.

I MEAN, MAYBE IT JUST DRIVES DOWN THE PRICE.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S THE KEY TO IT.

YOU JUST SELL REALLY CHEAP.

I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS.

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BECAUSE I THINK PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO WATCH OUT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR SAFETY.

SO OBVIOUSLY, THE BUYER WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE PURCHASING AT THAT LOCATION, SO WHILE I'M NOT SAYING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THAT TO ANYONE ELSE, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT MY.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE WANTS ANYTHING TO HAPPEN TO ANY CITY OF ANGLETON EMPLOYEE EITHER.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT ADVOCATING FOR, I THINK MARK WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE BY LOOKING AT AN EASEMENT OVER THERE ON DWYER; I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE WAS KIND OF TRYING TO CREATE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE THERE BY GETTING A BACKWAY INTO IT.

MAYBE I'M SAYING TOO MUCH, SPEAKING FOR MIKE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE WAS GOING TOWARDS, AIMING TOWARDS.

SO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE CHOSEN SITE, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT EXPANDING IT AND, YOU KNOW, CREATING OTHER OPTIONS FOR ENTRANCES, EXITS AND THINGS LIKE STORAGE.

I MEAN, SO LIKE I FEEL LIKE I KNOW THERE'S SOME YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUTTING HEADS RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNCIL, STAFF AND COUNCIL, BUT REALLY WE'RE NOT BECAUSE WE'RE ON YOUR SIDE.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAD MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SPEAK UP AND IS WILLING TO GIVE YOU ALL ADDITIONAL SPACE.

I MEAN, WE'RE WILLING TO BUILD OUT TO, YOU KNOW, THREE STORIES TO FUND IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A AND WE KNOW HOW WE DON'T LIKE TO SPEND EXTRA MONEY IF WE CAN'T, IF WE CAN AVOID IT.

BUT WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND MAKE THAT COMMITMENT.

SO, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE MAKING YOU STAY THERE AND ASKING YOU TO LIVE IN A [INAUDIBLE], YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST OPPOSITE, YOU KNOW.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE ARGUING.

I THINK WE'RE EXPRESSING SOME OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS, TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY, AND THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO EACH.

WELL, MAYBE IT WOULD BE EASIER DISCUSSION TO HAVE IF WE WEREN'T SPEAKING IN THE ABSTRACT.

SO IF YOU HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS, THEN TELL US THOSE LOCATIONS.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER SITE YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER.

.. SPECIFICALLY, LIKE WHERE--OR IS IT JUST ON A LEVEL OF JUST CONFIDENTIALITY RIGHT NOW? YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE? I THINK IF WE PUT IT OUT THERE, THEN WE RISK POTENTIALLY LOSING IT--THAT'S FINE, BUT I MEAN, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY WE CAN COMMUNICATE.

I'M JUST SAYING, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY OF COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT TRYING TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER'S EYES AND GO.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ADVOCATE IF Y'ALL WERE AT ALL OPEN TO THAT OPTION, THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE'D HANDLE THAT.

THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FINE.

I'M JUST SAYING.

BUT.

SO I THINK IT GOES BACK TO THREE STORIES, WE'RE WILLING TO DO IT RIGHT.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET IT RIGHT FOR THE LONG TERM.

I THINK WE DO ALSO HAVE.

WELL, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I HAVE CONCERNS OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OF THAT PROPERTY.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO SIT THERE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO BLIGHT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE OTHER LOTS.

BUT I'LL CONSIDER THE OTHER OPTIONS.

I'M NOT CLOSED OFF.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THERE IS A NEGATIVE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ONE IN THE NEGATIVE COLUMN.

BUT I'M NOT CLOSED OFF TO THAT IDEA.

IF YOU ALL HAVE AN IDEA IN MIND, YOU HAVE A LOCATION.

IF IT'S AN APPROPRIATE SETTING, WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT.

SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING.

AND I JUST AM ASKING THIS QUESTION.

WAS ANYBODY HERE ON COUNCIL WHEN THEY PURCHASED THAT BUILDING? DO YOU KNOW THE STORY? OK, SO CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT? [INAUDIBLE] THE ANGLETON WATER, THE OLD BARN.

AND JEFF, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THIS.

WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS THERE.

WE HAD TO GET OUT OF IT.

GREG SMITH CAME ACROSS AN IDEA OF GETTING HIS HANDS, ROBERT [INAUDIBLE] CAME TOGETHER AND THAT DEALERSHIP WAS AVAILABLE AND THEY WERE LEASING IT TO US FOR IT WAS SOMETHING SUPER CHEAP, LIKE FIVE THOUSAND A YEAR, FIFTEEN THOUSAND A YEAR, SOME CRAZY AND TO LEASE PURCHASE.

SO BASICALLY, WE PAID EACH YEAR UNTIL WE PAID IT OFF AND IT WAS OURS OUTRIGHT.

BUT AS USUAL, WITH MOST CITY FACILITIES, WE DON'T DO MAINTENANCE VERY WELL.

WE KNEW THAT THIS BUILDING HAD ISSUES, BUT WE NEVER DID ANY MAINTENANCE TO IT.

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SO WE JUST WE JUST KEPT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

AND THAT'S BEEN THE M.O.

FOR MOST OF THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT I'VE SEEN WHEN IT COMES TO OUR OUR FACILITIES, UNTIL WHICH TIME IT BECOMES VERY EXPENSIVE AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

SO IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, SO IT WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

YOU NEEDED TO TRANSFER BUILDINGS AND IT WAS AFFORDABLE.

BUT ONE WAS THE OLD BARN, THEY'D OUTGROWN IT.

THEY KNEW THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM THERE FOR ALL OF THEIR STUFF.

AND WE NEEDED A PLACE FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, THIS BECAME AVAILABLE AND IT WAS SITTING THERE, IT HAD BEEN SITTING THERE FOR, IT HAD BEEN LIKE TEN YEARS, JUST OPEN.

SO WE JUST DECIDED, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD MOVE OVER THERE GIVING US THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND EVENTUALLY TEAR DOWN THE BARNS, WHICH WE FINALLY DID THIS YEAR, IF THAT TELLS YOU ANYTHING.

SO IT'S THAT THERE IS A BLIGHT FOR 15 YEARS, 20, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, HONESTLY, I THINK THE LONG TERM I FEEL LIKE YOUR LONG TERM SOLUTION IS HERE AT THIS LOCATION WE CAN EXPAND ADDING MORE PROPERTY.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CHECK AND SEE IF WE CAN GET AN EASEMENT TO BUILD A ROAD ACCESS TO DWYER DOWN THERE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT.

BUT I'D ALSO SAY THAT THE BIG TRUCKS, THE BIG EQUIPMENT SHOULDN'T BE GOING THAT WAY ANYWAY.

IT SHOULD GO DOWN TO CEMETERY AND COME BACK IF THAT REALLY IS A WHOLE ISSUE.

SO THEY'RE COMING SOUTHBOUND, INSTEAD OF COMING ACROSS TO TURN IN, THEY SHOULD GO DOWN TO CEMETERY AND COME UP ANDERSON AND GO BACK IN.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT, JEFF? I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU JUST CUT ACROSS.

NO, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE COMING SOUTHBOUND.

I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH TAKING BIG TRUCKS, [INAUDIBLE] DWYER.

WHEN WE FIRST MOVED OVER THERE [INAUDIBLE] PEOPLE COME IN AND TOLD US THEY DON'T WANT NO TRUCKS, NO CITY TRUCKS DOWN DWYER.

SO WE WAS MOVING, WE WEREN'T ALLOWED, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I WAS TALKING ABOUT MAKING A ROAD TO DWYER.

THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT.

YEAH, I MEAN GOING OUT, BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE COMING DOWN THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

INSTEAD OF MAKING A U-TURN, COME DOWN THE CEMETERY AND MAKE [INAUDIBLE].

CAN YOU GET THERE FROM KIBER? FROM WHERE? IF WE GOT OUR HANDS ON THAT PROPERTY THE NORTH SIDE, WE MIGHT GET AN EASEMENT THROUGH THE BACK SIDE THERE.

YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT OFF OF KIBER.

YOU CAN'T TURN SOUTH OFF OF KIBER ON THIS [INAUDIBLE] FRONTAGE ROAD HERE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT GETTING AN EASEMENT.

SO EVEN NOW, WHEN YOU TELL THE GUYS TO COME UP FROM THE SOUTH, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN EXCUSE ME ON ANDERSON, THEN COME UP TOWARD SYMMETRY AND THEN IT'S AN EXTRA MILE OR SO TO GET AROUND THAT WAY.

RIGHT.

IF YOU TRULY TELL YOUR FOLKS TO COME UP, IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME TO THE SERVICE CENTER, DO NOT MAKE THE U-TURN.

YOU NEED TO COME DOWN SOMEHOW, OFF OF ANDERSON THE CEMETERY TO 288 NORTHBOUND.

IN THE EVENT OF A TRAIN.

WELL, JUST WHAT I'M HEARING IS, IS JUST THE SAFETY FACTOR OF THEM COMING INTO THE [INAUDIBLE] STREET SWEEPERS COMING FROM THE NORTH END OF TOWN WANTS TO COME BACK TO THE HOUSE, THE VAC TRUCK'S THE BIGGEST TRYING TO MAKE THE U-TURN, [INAUDIBLE] MAKING A LEFT YOU GO ACROSS TWO NORTHBOUND LANES AND YOU GO ACROSS THE FEEDER ROAD.

YES, TO GET THERE.

TO MAKE A U-TURN.

AND THEN FOR MEGAN'S POINT, SHE'S GOT A CREW CAB DUTY TRUCK PULLED BEHIND WITH A TRAILER.

YOU'VE GOT TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING.

I SEE THAT.

AND I CAN SEE YOUR SIDE OF THE HOUSE WHERE IS THIS THE PERFECT LOCATION? JUST FOR THE SIMPLE SHEER OF LOGISTICS AND Y'ALL DO IT EVERY DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY, [INAUDIBLE].

WE DON'T.

Y'ALL KNOW WHAT Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND WHAT YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH.

WE'RE NOT THERE EVERY DAY.

AND SO I GET WHERE YOU ALL'S PASSION IS.

IS IT THE RIGHT SPOT JUST FOR THE SHEER VOLUME OF THE EASE TO GET TO IT? I GET IT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, DO YOU ALL HAVE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS? I'VE MADE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS [INAUDIBLE].

I KNOW THEY HAPPEN.

THEY'RE THERE ALL THE TIME.

AND I SEE THE YAHOOS THAT TRY TO GO ACROSS THERE.

[05:45:02]

I WAS TURNING LAST WEEK AND THE LADY LOOKED AT ME AND I MADE A LEFT, AND WHEN SHE MADE A LEFT [INAUDIBLE].

[INAUDIBLE] TXDOT QUESTION BECAUSE I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION, TXDOT REQUESTED ALL THE ACCIDENT REPORTS.

GAVE THEM ALL OF THE ACCIDENT REPORTS, MAJOR AND MINORS RIGHT THERE.

SO I GUESS TXDOT [INAUDIBLE] [CHUCKLING].

THEY WERE GOING TO DO A STUDY AND SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO.

THE LAST TIME I HEARD FROM TXDOT, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING MEDIANS DOWN.

PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO PUT A MEDIAN, AND THEN THAT'LL REALLY JUST KILL EVERYTHING RIGHT THERE.

THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO DOWN CEMETERY.

YEAH.

SOMEHOW.

WE HAVE A DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH END THAT COMES OUT THAT WE CAN MAKE THE BRIDGE, BUT TXDOT TOLD US WE COULDN'T OPEN THE GATE BECAUSE WE'RE CROSSING DOUBLE WHITE LINES TO GET SEE RIGHT THERE.

YEAH, BUT THEY TOLD US WE COULDN'T, WE GOT TO KEEP THAT GATE LOCKED WHEN WE FIRST MOVED IN.

SO I CAN SEE WHERE BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE ARE GETTING PASSIONATE AND THEY'RE GETTING A LITTLE AND IT IS LATE AT NIGHT.

SO I KNOW WE'RE TIRED AND IT'S LATE AT NIGHT.

I GET IT.

I SENSE THE EMOTION IN THE ROOM.

BUT I MEAN, I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE, TRYING TO FIND US A SOLUTION TO PRESENT TO US TO HELP YOU GUYS LIVE IT FOR THE NEXT 20, 30, 40 YEARS, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE GONE .

SO OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE GONE, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE IT THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT COULD COME BEHIND YOU GUYS.

I THINK OUR MAIN CONCERN 30-40 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE EMPLOYEES YOU WILL HAVE, BUT WHERE ARE YOU GOING? I KNOW YOU HAVE THE OFFICE SPACE, BUT THE PARKING EQUIPMENT, WAS WHAT WE WAS WORRYING ABOUT.

I GOT BIG DELIVERY TRUCKS COME IN HERE EVERY DAY, MAKES A CIRCLE.

IT DON'T SHOW IT NOW, BUT WE DO HAVE A PARKING LOT BACK HERE IN THE BACK, RIGHT IN THAT AREA.

WE GOT ALL GRAVEL.

HOW MANY ACRES DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED? HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? 4.36.

SO, WHAT WOULD IT COST FOR US TO BUY 4.36 ACRES IN TOWN? ANYWHERE FROM 14 TO THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AN ACRE? THAT ADDS UP.

IT DOES, IT ADDS UP.

THE COST OF THE LAND HAS BEEN DRIVEN UP BY THE LOCAL LAND OWNERS AGAIN.

YEAH, BUT HERE'S THE THING DO YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE SPOTS? A LOT OF CITIES HAVE MULTIPLE SERVICE CENTERS.

I MEAN, BASED ON NEED AND DEMAND, THEY SPREAD THEM OUT.

SO IS IT REALLY IDEAL TO PUT TWO HERE? ALL THE EGGS IN ONE BASKET? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT--IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE.

I KNOW, BUT FOR THE FUTURE, I MEAN, WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE LIKE? NOW, THEY'RE TELLING US IN TWENTY YEARS WE CAN HAVE NO PARKING.

SO NOW WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS [INAUDIBLE] FOR WAS PUBLIC WORKS AND NOW WE HAVE PARKS AND IT AND IT'S FILLING UP.

YEAH.

WE ALSO DO HAVE A [INAUDIBLE] OFFICE BUILDING IN THE PARKING LOT.

YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, THAT TAKES UP SOME PARKING.

AT 4:00 P.M., EVERYBODY'S DOUBLE-PARKED.

SO, IT'S LIKE, FORGET LEAVING THE OFFICE.

IF I NEED TO GO TO PD FOR SOMETHING, I HAVE TO GET PEOPLE TO MOVE VEHICLES WITH, OF COURSE, THE BUILDING'S IN THE WAY NOW.

SOME OF THAT WILL EASE UP ONCE THAT BUILDING GOES AWAY.

I THINK YOU'LL HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING THERE ONCE WE STRIPE IT.

I THINK IT IS THE MOST FLEXIBLE OFFICER OF THE THREE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AT PARKS AND REC OFFICE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC WORKS' OFFICE.

YOU CAN BE AT YOUR OWN LITTLE ISLAND SOMEPLACE.

I NEED AN ISLAND AT EVERY BUILDING.

WHERE YOU ARE OFFICED AT.

YEAH.

YOU'VE GOT A PRIMARY OFFICE SOMEPLACE.

AND THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH.

BUT YEAH, I AGREE.

YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO COME TO EVERY LITTLE CAMPUS OR SUB CAMPUS AT SOME TIME TO--YES, I'VE BEEN CAMPED OUT AT PD THIS WEEK MOVING DISPATCH.

I MEAN, MY GUESS TONIGHT AS FAR AS THE DESIGN.

I'M OPEN TO A THREE STORY BUILDING, HOWEVER.

I'M ALSO OPEN TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

IF Y'ALL CAN PROVIDE ONE TO US THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

IF YOU WANT US TO FALL INTO THE TRAP, YOU GOT TO SHOW US SOME CHEESE.

[05:50:02]

[CHUCKLING] AND EXPLORE THE AVENUE THAT POTENTIALLY TRYING TO BE OPEN MINDED.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE REALLY DO.

I THINK WHAT CHRIS WANTED TO DO TONIGHT WAS GIVE YOU ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE OPTIONS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO AS FAR AS GIVING US DIRECTION.

SO IF THAT MEANS COME BACK WITH SOME FIRM PROPOSALS, SO WE CAN HAVE SOME COMPARATIVES? THE ONLY THING THAT WE'VE REALLY STARTED TO FLESH OUT IS THE PROPOSAL WITH THE BUILDING AS YOU SEE IT, WHICH IS STILL CONCEPTUAL.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO TRUE DRILLDOWN NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

I'M SURE STAFF THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING WOULD TELL YOU THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT WE'D WANT TO CHANGE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, IS IF YOU WERE OPEN TO ANY OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK WITH PROPOSALS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THOSE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSE TO SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS HERE; THIS IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT DECISION.

OH, I AGREE, 100 PERCENT.

YEAH, I MEAN, IS IT JUST EASE? I KNOW IT'S NOT, [INAUDIBLE] PROBABLY USED THE WRONG WORD.

IS THE EASE THE BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THE OVERPASS? WELL, I MEAN, I HEAR SAFETY, BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS, IS WHY WOULDN'T YOU BE ABLE TO GO DOWN KIBER AND THEN JUST CROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS OVER OFF OF DOWNING? BECAUSE THERE'S ALMOST ALWAYS A TRAIN.

I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE RIGHT THERE.

USUALLY ALL THREE INTERSECTIONS ARE BLOCKED AT ONE TIME.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND, I GUESS, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION.

PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T GO SOUTH.

THAT FEEDER ROAD [INAUDIBLE] NORTHBOUND DIRECTION.

CORNER? THAT'S WHAT I'M, SEE IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SWAPPING PROPERTIES THAT CORNER VERSUS [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZED LOT.

I THINK SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS YOU'VE HEARD US VISIT COMPASSIONATELY AND NON-COMPASSIONATELY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT MAYBE YOUR OTHER THOUGHTS.

I KNOW I GET THAT ABOUT REAL ESTATE, SO WE DON'T WANT TO, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK IT THROUGH THEN MAKE SURE WE CAN DO IT THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] OFFICE.

IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR US TO DISCUSS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW STAFF'S TIRED.

IT'S ALREADY 12:20, 12:15.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD COURSE.

MAYBE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER, COME UP WITH SOME MORE TANGIBLE SOLUTIONS.

LIKE HE SAID BRING THE CHEESE TO THE TABLE, SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND CHEW ON IT.

SO IF WE STAY WITH THIS, IN THE END, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF CONCEPT IS GO WITH THIS IS TANYA FROM MRB.

CAN I JUST COMMENT? LET ME JUST SAY SO IT WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM FOR THE DESIGN AND EXECUTION OF THIS.

OH, WE WE WANT THEIR HELP, YES.

AND THEN WE'D BOND OUT IN JANUARY WITH WE CAN PASS A RESOLUTION THAT ANY MONEY SPENT WOULD BE REPAID BY THE BONDS.

IF WE WANTED TO START DESIGN WORK NOW AND THEN WHEN WE GET THE MONEY FOR THE BOND, YOU KNOW, BID OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A PLAN WE'RE PROPOSING SHOULD WE GO THIS ROUTE.

OH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

YEAH.

OK, COME ON UP, MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR HANGING OUT.

THIS IS FUN.

OH, IT'S FUN? [LAUGHTER] I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE PLANS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN YOUR POCKET ARE PURELY CONCEPTUAL.

YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF SPACE, WHAT KIND OF ADJACENCY, WHO NEEDED BAYS, I MEAN, THEY'RE PURELY CONCEPTUAL.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE TRIED TO SQUEEZE A ROUND PEG INTO A SQUARE HOLE OR VICE VERSA BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO USE THE EXISTING FOUNDATION, SAVE A LITTLE MONEY ON FOUNDATION AND THE SUPERSTRUCTURE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THIS SITE, IN LIGHT OF ALL THIS CONVERSATION TODAY, WHICH I HAVE NOT BEEN PRIVY TO AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING, COULD BE LOOKED AT TOTALLY DIFFERENTLY FROM TRANSPORTATION, FROM DETENTION, FROM FORGET THAT FOUNDATION ON THE FLOOR.

LET'S GO VERTICAL.

AND THEN WHAT IS OUR PARKING? AND THIS SITE COULD BE ANALYZED TOTALLY DIFFERENT WITH THE DIRECTION FROM THIS ROOM TONIGHT.

THAT BEING SAID, SO COULD ANY OTHER SITE.

SO WE NEED TO WITHDRAW THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GOING WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU

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HAVE IN YOUR HANDS.

BUT I'D LIKE TO BE A PART OF HELPING YOU ALL FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS EVEN DOABLE.

AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT FREESTANDING BUILDINGS FOR HERE OR AFTER, MUCH BETTER APPROACH, NOT TRYING TO FORCE IT INTO THIS LOCATION.

HOWEVER, WE DIDN'T GIVE THIS LOCATION ITS FAIR SHAKE BECAUSE WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME SQUARE FOOTAGES AND SPACES PULLED TOGETHER.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT WE DIDN'T THINK THIS WAS THE END ALL BE ALL WITH THIS DESIGN.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME NUMBERS AND SOME SQUARE FOOTAGES TOGETHER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE LOGISTICS WRITTEN ON HERE; THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICAL PIECES THAT GO WITH THAT.

OK, ARE WE HAPPY WITH MOVING 20 TO A FUTURE DATE? SO WE'LL COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE TO TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.

AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION.

AND IT MAY REVERT BACK TO THIS WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU FIND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT COULD HAPPEN FOR THE POSITIVE.

IT HAS EVOLVED INTO JUST BEING A PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE TO HOUSING PUBLIC WORK--WE ALL KNOW THIS--PARKS DEPARTMENT TO NOW STICK IT IN THERE TOO.

WELL, I CAN CONCEIVABLY SEE THIS GO BACK TO ONE DEPARTMENT AND PUT THE OTHER SOMEPLACE ELSE.

I'M WITH JOHN, I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY TAKE A PROPERTY OFF THE TAX ROLLS JUST TO HAVE ANOTHER PLACE.

I'VE SEEN THE COUNTY DO THAT.

THEY BOUGHT UP THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN.

AND WE GET NO BENEFIT OFF OF IT, UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO PARK IN THEIR PARKING LOT.

SO WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE SORT OF COMPREHENSIVE THOUGHT PROCESS AND PLANNING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PART OF THIS IS DRIVEN BY NEED.

SO, YOU KNOW, CURRENT PARKS, PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING WAS, YOU KNOW, UNSATISFACTORY.

SO WHATEVER.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, YOU KNOW, GROWTH OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS IT'S HOME.

AND SO I'M AT A LOSS OTHER THAN IF WE GO FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER LOCATION TO PUT THEM, AGAIN--I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT THERE.

I KNOW WE PUT THEM WHERE WE HAD TO PUT THEM BECAUSE WHERE WE HAD TO PUT THEM.

AND KIND OF JOHN'S POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CONSOLIDATE ASSETS SO THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE UNDER FEWER ROOFS AS POSSIBLE.

LESS FACILITIES.

ONE IDEA I THOUGHT MAYBE FIRE STATION THREE MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE FOR IT ON THE BACKSIDE OF [INAUDIBLE] THERE.

JUST AN IDEA.

I MEAN, IT GETS YOU RIGHT OFF THAT WELL, I MEAN, YOU CAN BUILD ANOTHER BAY OR TWO OFF THE BACK, BUT [INAUDIBLE] SIMULTANEOUSLY WHEN YOU BUILD THE EXTRA BAY YOU LEAVE SPACE FOR VEHICLES TO DRIVE IN, WHICH WOULD WHERE THEY COULD COME TO JASON AND HIS I.T.

DEPARTMENT THERE.

STILL HAVE TO BUILD A BUILDING, WE TO HOUSE ALL THE REST OF THEM.

WE CAN JUST OPEN IT UP.

ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT, TOO, IS IF WE PURCHASE NEW LAND, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SIDE TO SIDE DRAINAGE? MM HMM.

YEAH, YEAH.

WE'LL LOSE THAT; IT'S JUST GOING TO BE TURNED INTO DRAINAGE.

SO, AT LEAST WE'VE GOT DIRECTION.

SOUNDS LIKE IT, SIR.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR WORKING THAT.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN ON YOU ALL'S PLATE FOR A WHILE.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 21.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE PROJECTS FOR DEBT ISSUANCE AND THE RELATED

[21. Discussion and possible action to approve Projects for Debt Issuance and the related 2022-2026 Capital Improvement Plan.]

2022-26 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

CHRIS 2.0.

HI, GOOD MORNING.

WELL, GOOD MORNING.

WHERE'S THE COFFEE AND DONUTS? [CHUCKLING] NO COFFEE.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS ITEM, WE WANT TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE DEBT ISSUANCE AND WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE APPROVED ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

SO FIRST, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CAPACITY ANALYSIS AND THE FUNDING AND I'M GOING TO SEPARATE IT BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT BETWEEN UTILITIES AND GENERAL, SINCE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION ON THE UTILITIES.

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AND SO WE HAVE A DIFFERENT TIMELINE AND PROCESS ON THAT.

AND OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED MORE TIME ON THE COA AND IN THE GENERAL SIDE.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIMELINE THAT CAN BE DONE BECAUSE IT'S AN EMERGENCY AND WE CAN GET THE MONEY FASTER THAN SIX MONTHS, WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE MONEY BY NOVEMBER THE 9TH WOULD BE THE ESTIMATE IF AND THAT'S THE TWO POINT FOUR MILLION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT'S IN THE BUDGET IN THE NEW [INAUDIBLE] PLAN ALREADY IN THE SEVEN DOLLAR INCREASE.

IF WE DO IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE NEXT MEETING, WE DO A NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE COS FOR THAT TWO POINT FOUR MILLION OR WHATEVER NUMBER WE THINK WE NEED, WHICH WOULD BE FOR THE CHENANGO WATER PLANT AS WELL AS THE LIFT STATIONS AND WHATEVER OTHER PROJECTS FIT INTO THAT TWO POINT FOUR MILLION.

IF WE DO THAT, THEN WE COULD HAVE THE MONEY LITERALLY BY NOVEMBER THE NIGHT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL HAVE IT SOON ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THE FREIGHT FOR THE PROJECT.

AND WE WOULD ALSO DO A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ANY FUNDS THAT WE WERE TO SPEND BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET WE GET THE FUNDING MAYBE FOR DESIGN OR WHATEVER WE WOULD SPEND BEFORE AND THEN WOULD REIMBURSE OURSELVES.

SO IT WOULD COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE.

WE HAVE ABOUT ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION IN THE UTILITY SIDE RIGHT NOW THAT WE COULD USE AND THEN REIMBURSE OURSELVES.

I THINK IT COULD GO UP A LITTLE BIT FOR THE OF THE YEAR, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND THE MARKET IS GOOD.

THE RATES ARE LOW.

WE CAN ACTUALLY ISSUE BONDS AT A PREMIUM.

THE PAR VALUE WOULD ACTUALLY BE, YOU KNOW, LOWER THAN WHEN THE FUNDS WERE ACTUALLY PUT IN THE BANK.

AND THE ESTIMATE IS IF WE DID THE TWO POINT FOUR MILLION, WE WOULD HAVE A PAYMENT OF ABOUT 150000, WHICH, AS I SAID, IS IN THE PLAN AT 20 YEAR TERM AND THE NET INTEREST COST WOULD BE ABOUT 2.07%.

SO IT'S FAIRLY LOW.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE PLAN AT ALL BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THE NEW [INAUDIBLE] PLAN AND IN THE RATES.

EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? WHY 20 YEARS? THAT'S JUST THE STANDARD THAT WE USE.

IT COULD BE DIFFERENT, MORE OR LESS DEPENDING ON--WHAT WAS FALLING OFF? WHAT IS GOING TO FALL ON THE--ON THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THE UTILITIES.

IS THAT ON PAGE 256.

I KNOW WE DID THE ACTUAL PLAN ON THE GENERAL SIDE.

LET'S LOOK AT THAT.

YOU HAVE THAT PULLED UP? I GOT THE--I KNOW, THERE'S SOME DEBT THAT'S FALLING OFF IN THREE YEARS, BUT WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS THAT WE CAN DO IT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT SEVEN DOLLAR INCREASE IN THERE AND IT'S IN THE FINANCIAL PLAN.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEBT FALLING OFF AS LONG AS WE DO THAT INCREASE AND WE FOLLOW THE PLAN--IT'S GOING TO RAISE THE I&S RATE? NO--I MEAN UTILITIES.

THIS IS UTILITIES FUNDED BY THE UTILITY RATE INCREASE.

SO THIS PARTICULAR TWO POINT FOUR WILL NOT AFFECT THE I&S RATE.

THE NEXT ONE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WILL, THE GENERAL SIDE.

SO THIS IS JUST THE WATER AND SEWER RATE THAT WE APPROVED AND WE WOULD BE APPROVING THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT'S BUILT INTO THAT TO THE NEW GEN SOLUTIONS FIVE YEAR PLAN.

AND WE COULD ISSUE NOW AND HAVE THE MONEY BY NOVEMBER, ASSUMING WE FOLLOW THAT PLAN.

OK.

ALL RIGHT.

ON THE GENERAL SIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT WE TALK ABOUT AND WE APPROVED IN THE [INAUDIBLE] PLAN POSSIBLE CHANGES WAS EIGHT POINT EIGHT MILLION.

IF WE JUST DID THE SIX POINT EIGHT MILLION, WHICH WAS THE ESTIMATE FOR THE COA, THE TIMING OF IT, FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S ACTUALLY AFTER, WE COULDN'T ISSUE THE DEBT UNTIL AFTER FEBRUARY 15TH.

SO UNLESS WE WANT TO REDO THE PROPERTY TAX RATES FOR THIS YEAR, FOR IT TO FALL INTO THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND BASED ON THE GROWTH THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR, PLUS THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE COULD ISSUE THAT DEBT AFTER FEBRUARY 15TH.

AND OUR RATE THIS YEAR HAS FALLEN FROM 08 TO 07.

BUT LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE TOTAL RATE WAS GOING DOWN .

03 IN TOTAL PROPERTY TAXES.

IT WOULD BASICALLY RAISE OUR DEBT RATE BY .

03 THE NEXT YEAR IN 2022-23 YEAR.

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SO WE WOULD LITERALLY HAVE THE SAME RATE THAT WE HAVE NOW IN TOTAL.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE MORE I&S IF WE ISSUE THAT DEBT, WHICH WOULD IN FACT BE A TAX RATE INCREASE.

WHICH WOULD BE A .

03 INCREASE ON SOME OF THAT.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE ANY DEBT, WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ISSUE ANY DEBT BECAUSE UNLESS WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY THAT GETS ADDED.

I MEAN, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE COULD KEEP THE RATE THE SAME AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND WE COULD ISSUE THIS DEBT TO PAY FOR THE BUILDING AND THEN PAY FOR OTHER PROJECTS.

RIGHT NOW, WE PUT IT IN THE MUNICIPAL POOL OF TWO MILLION DOLLARS.

IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS BUILDING; IT COULD BE SOME OTHER PROJECT.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT'S EIGHT POINT EIGHT MILLION.

BUT IT WOULD IT WOULD RAISE OUR RATE TO .

10 ON THE DEBT SERVICE.

AND THE COUNTY'S AVERAGE IS POINT ONE NINE.

SO WE'D STILL BE WAY LOWER THAN THE COUNTY AVERAGE.

AND IT WOULD COME DOWN OVER TIME.

YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE THE .

10 THAT YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME PROPERTY TAX RATE WE HAVE NOW.

THEN IT GOES DOWN TO .

09, .

08, .

07.

SO BY THE TIME YOU GET OUT, YOU KNOW, IT'LL START TRICKLING DOWN EVERY YEAR.

WHEN YOU GET OUT THE FIVE YEARS, WE'RE BACK TO THE .

07.

SO IT'S JUST IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE WOULD HAVE THAT HIGHER RATE.

WE COULD STILL START BRINGING IT.

WELL, WE'D HAVE THE SAME RATE WE HAVE NOW IN TOTAL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IT WOULD START TRICKLING DOWN FROM THERE.

THE PROBLEM IS, IT'S JUST ONE SIDE OF THE COIN THERE, CHRIS.

I'VE GOT ALL THE AREA CITIES PULLED UP AND YEAH, THE I&S RATE AVERAGE IS .

09, BUT WE HAVE THE HIGHER RATE WHEN IT COMES TO M&O.

AND WE SPEND MORE OF OUR PROPERTY TAX MONEY ON MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS THAN ANY OTHER CITY THAT I SEE HERE, EXCEPT FOR SWEENEY AND WEST COLUMBIA.

SO IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE CAN'T GO OUT FOR MORE DEBT SERVICE BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE TO USE IT FOR OPERATIONS.

THE OTHER CITIES USE THEIR I&S RATE TO FUND THEIR PROJECTS USING A LOWER M&O RATE.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE DIFFERENCE.

WE'RE ONLY TALK ABOUT A .

03.

THE AVERAGE RATE IS .

67, NOW WE'RE AT .

63.

SO, WE'D STILL BE, IN TOTAL, AVERAGE.

YEAH, BUT YOU'RE LOCKING IN YOUR [INAUDIBLE] GROWTH WITH THE I&S RATE INSTEAD OF FUNDING FROM A M&O PORTION.

RIGHT.

YOU'D BE COMMITTING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FIRST YEAR THAT .

03, BUT THEN IT WOULD TRICKLE DOWN FROM THERE.

I MEAN, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE MARKET IS GOOD RIGHT NOW.

IF WE DID GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEN WE CAN ISSUE THE DEBT NEXT YEAR, SOMETIME AFTER FEBRUARY, THEN WE WOULD LIKELY GET A RATE ON 20 YEARS AT ABOUT 1.84%.

AND EVEN IF WE WENT OUT 25 YEARS, WHICH COULD KEEP THE, YOU KNOW, COULD KEEP THE RATES DOWN, THE YIELD CURVE IS PRETTY FLAT.

SO IT WOULD STILL ONLY BE ABOUT .

197.

SO ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE TO GO LONGER.

THAT WOULD KEEP THE RATES DOWN.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE 20 [INAUDIBLE].

WE COULD DO 25 OR 30, AND THAT MIGHT HELP KEEP THE RATES DOWN IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

ESPECIALLY ON A BUILDING.

MM HMM.

30 YEARS IS PRETTY STANDARD.

RIGHT, YEAH, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE BUILDING SHOULD LAST 30 YEARS.

[INAUDIBLE] YOU WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON ABLC DEBT SERVICE? WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT THE ABLC MEETING, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT TOO.

ABLC, WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE CAPACITY TO WITH THEIR SALES TAX THAT THEY COULD ISSUE, ABOUT TWO POINT EIGHT TO THREE DOLLARS MILLION OF DEBT AS WELL THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS WITH THEM NEXT WEEK.

SO, LIKE, THE POOL COULD BE PUSHED TO THEM, THAT TWO MILLION OR ANY DRAINAGE PROJECTS, WE COULD PUSH SOME DRAINAGE PROJECTS THERE AND THEN MAYBE FREE UP SOME MONEY ON THE UTILITY SIDE.

WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH LAKESIDE PARK? WE ALREADY BONDED THAT LAST YEAR.

WE GOT WE HAVE THREE MILLION IN THE BANK FOR THAT, PLUS THE GRANT MONEY WE RECEIVED.

FIVE MILLION DOLLAR PRICE TAG ON [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH.

SO, CHRIS, WHAT DO YOU NEED TONIGHT?

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WELL, WHAT I NEED IS FOR YOU TO PROVE THE AMOUNT THAT WE CAN GO OUT FOR DEBT ISSUANCE AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU WANT TO.

WE DEFINITELY NEED TO APPROVE--DEBT ISSUANCE FOR WHAT? FOR THE UTILITY SIDE.

YEAH.

YEAH, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO APPROVE THE PROJECTS FOR THE UTILITY SIDE SINCE THAT'S AN EMERGENCY SO THAT WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO THE 24TH MEETING WITH A REIMBURSABLE RESOLUTION AS WELL AS THE INTENT TO ISSUE THAT DEBT.

SO CAN WE MAYBE DO THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION FIRST? AND BECAUSE I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF GET SOME COST FOR THE TANK, FOR THE ENGINEERING, SOME OF THOSE THINGS FIRST, BECAUSE IF WE GO FOR TWO MILLION AND IT'S TWO AND A HALF, WE'RE IN TROUBLE.

RIGHT.

BUT IS THAT GOING TO MESS WITH THE TIMELINE THAT HE PROPOSED? IT WILL PUSH THE TIMELINE OUT WHEN WE GET THE MONEY AS WE'RE USED TO A 90 DAY PROCESS.

TAKING IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE.

CAN WE CONSERVATIVELY GO UP, SAY NEED MORE JUST IN CASE? WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE COVERED BECAUSE WE SAID WE WANT TWO POINT FOUR MILLION.

WE'RE ONLY ESTIMATING THE TAX TO BE ONE POINT FOUR AND THEN SO, THE REST OF THAT TWO POINT FOUR WAS SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR LIFT STATIONS AND OTHER PROJECTS.

SO IF THAT'S HIGHER, THEN YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE OTHER PROJECTS.

BUT WE'VE GOT TIME.

I MEAN, IF WE CAN WAIT TO ONE MORE MEETING.

HOW FIRM OF A NUMBER IS THAT? ONE POINT FOR THE TANK IS GOOD.

WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT COST FOR ALL OF THE ENGINEERING.

ANOTHER THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

AND YOU ALSO GOT TO CONSIDER WHEN WE TAKE THE TANK DOWN AND BUILD A NEW TANK, IF THERE'S THE SHED WE WANT TO PUT OUT THERE OR SOME OTHER WATER LINE FIX, WE'VE GOT A PROGRAM FOR THAT MONEY.

AND SO THE BOND HAS TO SAY FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE WATER TANK AND OTHER THINGS IN THAT WAY, IF WE COME UNDER, THEN WE'VE GOT LIFT STATION MONEY OR WATER LINE MONEY OR SOMETHING ELSE.

AND ONE POINT FOUR IS ONLY THE TANK ONE POINT FIVE.

YOU SAID THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR ENGINEERING, SO NOW YOU'RE AT ONE POINT EIGHT THOUSAND.

BUT IF YOU GO OVER THE TWO POINT FOUR, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST THE RATE THAT'S IN THE BUDGET.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SEVEN DOLLARS FOR AN AVERAGE 5000.

IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW.

WE DO NEED TO SHARPEN OUR PENCILS, MAKE SURE WE'RE RIGHT BEFORE WE GO [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, I AGREE.

BECAUSE AT TWO POINT FOUR, THERE'S NO ENGINEERING COST THERE.

THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER THINGS WE'RE NOT FACTORING IN.

THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE FOR JOHN TO COME BACK AND GIVE US A BETTER NUMBER.

YOU'RE LIKELY PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST THAT RATE.

WELL, OK, WE HAVE TO BUILD A NEW PUMPHOUSE OVER THERE TO MOVE THE PUMPS AROUND.

[INAUDIBLE] ONE OF THE PROJECTS TO GET SHELVED.

IS A TWO WEEK WINDOW ENOUGH TIME TO GET --I THINK WE CAN WAIT TWO WEEKS AND DO SOME-- WE'LL GET RUNNING ON THOSE NUMBERS.

COME BACK WITH SOME NUMBERS.

GET RUNNING ON YOUR ENGINEERING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO START--YOU CAN START TOMORROW.

I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE JOB.

I MEAN, AND TELL WESTIN HE DOESN'T GET [INAUDIBLE] TO OUR PROJECT.

RIGHT.

AND ON THE 24TH, WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

AND SO IF WE GO, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE BUDGET AFTER THAT, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING IN MY OPINION.

WELL, BUT I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE SHOOTING FOR THE TWO POINT FOUR, I JUST I THINK WE NEED TO CONFIRM THOSE NUMBERS WITH JOHN.

I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN STILL SAY THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET, DO OUR NOTICES AND YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S A YOU CAN DO A LITTLE SMOOTHING ON IT BECAUSE IT IS A FIVE YEAR PLAN MAYBE TO PUSH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE MONEY OUT TO A LATER YEAR.

SO THAT DOESN'T AFFECT THE BUDGET [INAUDIBLE] TO THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO DO ONE YEAR PLAN, WE'RE DOING A FIVE YEAR PLAN.

OR ADD ANOTHER FIVE YEARS TO THE DEBT SERVICE TO CORRESPOND WITH THE CHANGE.

RIGHT.

SO I GUESS WE'RE REQUESTING THIS GETS TABLED TO THE NEXT MEETING.

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COME BACK WITH SOME--SHE'S SAYING POSTPONE.

YEAH, THAT'S THE BUZZ WORD: POSTPONE.

GOTTA USE THE RIGHT SEMANTICS HERE.

WELL, WE ALREADY APPROVED THE BUDGET WITH THE CHANGE IT IS.

SO THAT IS OUR PROPOSED BUDGET.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

WE'LL BRING BACK MORE INFORMATION AND THE NOTICE TO PROCEED ON THE DEBT ISSUES AND REIMBURSE RESOLUTION TO THE NEXT MEETING.

WE'LL HAVE THE EXPERTS HERE.

THE BOND ATTORNEY, AS WELL AS OUR FINANCIAL ADVISER, JOE MOORE, WILL BE HERE.

SO WE'LL IRON IT OUT THAT DAY AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

ALL RIGHT, SIR.

THANK YOU.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU GOT A GOOD PLAN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT COMPLETES ITEM NUMBER TWENTY ONE AND THAT GOES TO ITEM NEXT ADJOURNMENT.

IT IS 12:30.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD NIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL.



* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.