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ALL RIGHT.[1. Call to Order and announce a quorum is present.]
I'M GOING TO CALL US TO ORDER.UH, ONE OF OUR MEMBERS, SCOTT MYERS IS GOING TO NEED TO LEAVE AT SEVEN OR A FEW MOMENTS BEFORE, BUT WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN QUORUM.
UM, EVEN AFTER HE IS OUTSET FROM US.
[2. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Charter Review Commission meeting of July 22, 2021 and August 3, 2021.]
LET'S MOVE TO ITEM TWO ON OUR AGENDA, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.SO LET ME JUMP IN THERE, PLEASE.
IF YOU WILL GO TO ON THE PDF IT'S PAGE BY PAGE ONE THROUGH FOUR, AS BEST I CAN TELL ARE THE MINUTES.
PAGE FIVE IS THE EDITS THAT WE MADE THAT WE NEED TO GO OVER SEPARATELY.
UM, ALMOST SO UP UNTIL THAT YELLOW HIGHLIGHTING WHERE IT SAYS JULY 22ND, 2021 ON PDF PAGE EIGHT, THOSE WERE ALREADY ADOPTED.
THOSE CHANGES WERE ADOPTED IN THE LAST MEETING.
SO EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IS CORRECT, BUT FOR GOING UP TO PAGE EIGHT, PAGE EIGHT STARTS THE NEW REVISIONS.
SO YOU CAN DO THE MINUTES, WHICH ARE PAGE ONE THROUGH FOUR, AND THEN WE CAN THEN DO THE CHANGES TO SEE THE SENSE OF THE COMMISSION.
HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS SENT SECOND.
[3. Discussion and possible action on the Home Rule Charter and Blodgett pages.]
ITEM THREE, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP ON A PAGE EIGHT AND GO OVER PAGE EIGHT OF THE PDF, WHICH IS PAGE FIVE OF THE PACKET.THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH AND SEE IF ANYTHING IS NOT FOR YOUR LOCKING.
WE ARE UNDER NUMBER SELECTION IN TERM.
AND A SEVEN IS BASICALLY AN UNFINISHED TERM, UH, OR A PARTIAL TERM.
IF YOU SERVE MORE THAN A YEAR IS CONSIDERED A TERM.
MY RECOLLECTION WAS POLICE SAID IT WOULDN'T COUNT AGAINST IT.
WE BASICALLY SAID YOU JUST GET A BONUS.
PERSON WHO'S ELECTED A COUNCIL MEMBER AT ANY CITY LIFE OR WHO IS APPOINTED TO APPOINTED OR ELECTED TO SERVE AN UNFINISHED TERM MORE THAN ONE YEAR.
SHE'LL BE DEEMED TO SERVE ONE TERM IN TERM TWO, THREE, THE TERMS ARE THREE YEARS.
MY RECOLLECTION WAS, WE SAID, IF YOU ARE BASICALLY STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND FINISHING SOMEONE ELSE'S TERM, IT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARD YOUR TWO TERMS. SEVEN NEEDS TO BE FLIPPED.
OKAY? SO I'M NOT SURE I'M WITH YOU, A PERSON WHO IS ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBER AT ANY CITY ELECTION, OR IS WHO IS APPOINTED OR ELECTED TO SERVE AN UNFINISHED TERM OF THE OFFICE OF MORE THAN ONE YEAR SHALL BE DEEMED TO HAVE SERVED ONE TERM.
AND YOU SAY IT, AND YOU COULD TAKE THAT LAST PART OUT.
AND BASICALLY JUST SAY A PERSON WHO IS ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBER AT ANY CITY ELECTION, OR WHO IS APPOINTED OR ELECTED TO SERVE AN UNFINISHED TERM OF OFFICE SHALL NOT BE DEEMED TO HAVE SERVED ANY
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TERM WHEN CARES.UM, I, I LOOKED AT THE NOTES AND YOU HAD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT ONE YEAR VERSUS TWO YEARS.
SO I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU HAD THE DISCUSSION IN, IN THE LAST MEETING AND YOU SAID BOTH.
SO NOW I'M HEARING THAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE OPPOSITE, MY ROOM.
YOU HAD A DISTINCTION IN THE LAST MEETING OF ONE YEAR VERSUS MORE THAN ONE.
OH, SEE, NOW I RECALL US TALKING ABOUT THAT BEING WHAT THE CASE IS NOW.
AND I FEEL LIKE MOVING FORWARD, IF WE'RE MOVING TO THREE-YEAR TERMS, WHAT ARE YOU? YEAH, WHATEVER YOU WANT.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST REMINDING YOU.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE ON THE RIGHT, THAT'S THE LANGUAGE OF THE OLD PROVISION.
BUT, UM, WHEN I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE NOTES FROM THE MEETING, YOU HAD THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION, UH, UH, JUST A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN ONE YEAR OR LESS OR TWO YEARS IN LA OR LESS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT READS THE WAY IT DOES NOW ABOUT A PARTIAL TERM OR MORE THAN TWO YEARS.
SO I THOUGHT OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, SORRY, IT WAS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUNISH SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ELECTED.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO RUN FOR AN ELECTION WITH THE THREE-YEAR TERM.
IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE I CAN'T BE APPOINTED WITH A THREE-YEAR TERM.
SO IF THEY WERE GOING TO GO TO THE TROUBLE TO BE ELECTED, TO FINISH OUT SOMEONE ELSE'S TERM, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD COUNT AGAINST THEM, NO MATTER HOW LONG THEY'RE FINISHING IT OUT.
SO THEN IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, THAT FIRST SENTENCE, UM, SHOULD, SHOULD NOT HAVE, SHALL BE DEEMED TO SERVE ONE TERM.
A PERSON WHO IS APPOINTED OR ELECTED TO SERVE AN ED FINISHED TERM OF OFFICE SHALL NOT BE DEEMED TO HAVE SERVED ONE TERM.
I THINK 73 THAT WAY AND BE FINE, HOWEVER LONG IT IS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE TROUBLE TO RUN, TO TRY TO GET ELECTED, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU GET A LITTLE BONUS THEN.
CAUSE OTHERWISE, WHY WOULD YOU WASTE TIME WASTED TERMS SO TO SPEAK? I DON'T WANT TO DISINCENTIVIZE SOMEONE STEPPING UP TO FILL THE VOID.
AND THEN ON THE SECOND SENTENCE DOWN THERE, WE'LL TALKS ABOUT MORE THAN TWO YEARS.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO BETWEEN THE ONE AND TWO? OH, SO WHAT I WAS SAYING IS MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FINISHING ANY TERM OF ANY LENS DOES NOT COUNT AS ONE OF YOUR TERMS. I WOULDN'T MAKE A DISTINCTION.
I WOULD JUST SAY, IF YOU ARE ELECTED, I MEAN, IT SAYS OR APPOINTED, BUT W IF WE MOVED TO THREE-YEAR TERMS, YOU CAN'T BE APPOINTED.
SO IF YOU ARE ELECTED TO FINISH SOMEONE ELSE'S TERM, THAT INCOMPLETE TERM DOES NOT COUNT TOWARD YOUR TERM LIMITS.
THAT'S HOW I WOULD HAVE IT READ BECAUSE OTHERWISE MY CONCERN WOULD BE PEOPLE WOULDN'T, PEOPLE WOULD JUST WAIT IN THE WINGS AND SAY, WELL, WHY WOULD I GO TO THE TROUBLE OF TRYING TO GET ELECTED TO A SHORTER TERM WHEN I COULD JUST WAIT? AND THAT COULD MAKE IT HARD POTENTIALLY FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE QUORUMS THAT THEY NEED.
IF YOU'VE GOT A PERPETUALLY VACANT SEAT FOR TWO YEARS, ROY, IT'S JUST, Y'ALL NEED TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT AND WE'LL MOVE.
I THINK I WOULDN'T GET ON BOARD WITH IT.
SO WE'RE TAKING THE LAST SENTENCE OUT COMPLETELY AS WELL.
WE'RE BASICALLY, WE JUST HAVE SALMON WOULD BE ONE SENTENCE THAT SAYS A PERSON WHO IS APPOINTED OR ELECTED TO SERVE AN UNFINISHED TERM OF OFFICE SHALL NOT BE DEEMED TO HAVE SERVED ONE TERM.
AND WE'LL TAKE IT OUT, APPOINTED SINCE IT'S.
SO IS IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE AN ACTIVIST TWO YEARS.
WE'VE MOVED THE QUALIFICATION FROM THE DAY OF THE ELECTION.
I MAY 1ST TUESDAY IN MAY TO THE FILING DEADLINE FOR THE ELECTION, WHICH WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY FEBRUARY, MID FEBRUARY, OR IF IT'S A NOVEMBER ELECTION, IT WOULD BE NOW MID AUGUST.
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IN A, WELL, IF YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY SIX MONTHS, YOU COULD RUN IN SAY MONTH, FIVE FILE FOR ELECTION RUN IN MONTH, FIVE.SO LONG AS WHEN YOU WERE ELECTED AT BAY, YOU'VE LIVED HERE SIX MONTHS.
NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT'S OUT THE WINDOW.
YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY TO FILE FOR THE ELECTION.
SO IT PREVENTS SOMEONE FROM LIVING HERE FOR JUST LIKE A MONTH OR TWO, AND THEN FILING TO BE ELECTED.
IT WOULD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE QUALIFIED BY SIX MONTHS OR MORE OF RESIDENCY ON THE DATE YOU FILE.
IT LED TO ONE HURRICANE 3.05, A FILLING IN AN OFFICE LIKE I, IN THE OFFICE OF MAYOR, WE DELETED THAT.
AND THEN WE WENT IN 3.06 VACANCIES IN GENERAL, AND WE JUST COMBINED COUNCIL AND MAYOR ALL INTO ONE.
ALL BANKRUPTCY SHALL BE FILED, SHOULD BE FILLED PURSUANT TO STATE LAW.
THE REST OF THAT WAS GOING TO BE DELETED.
I'M HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES OVER HERE.
THIS, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT DOCUMENT.
THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD LOOK.
I'M PULLING UP A DOCUMENT THAT I WORKED IN BEFORE YOU GOT INTO THE PACKET.
UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT READS IN FRONT OF ME, IT STILL TALKS ABOUT WITHIN 31 DAYS, APPOINTING IS THAT ARE OURS ALL READING THE SAME WAY, BUT I THOUGHT THEY COULDN'T APPOINT IF WE MOVED TO THREE-YEAR TERMS. SO WE, YEAH, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S A MISTAKE.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE DELETED, RIGHT.
AND WE JUST SAID ALL THE VACANCIES SHALL BE FILLED PURSUANT TO STATE LAW, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT REQUIRES THE ELECTION DOES THE, WITH THE APPOINTMENT ON THREE-YEAR TRENDS.
SO BEING SEEN SHOULD BE DELETED AND THE REST OF ASIA, CORRECT? THEY SHOULD ONLY READ ALL VACANCY SHELVING FIELD PURSUANT TO STATE LAW, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THEN MOVIE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IS THE DISASTER DISASTER CLAUSE, RIGHT? COMMISSIONER'S COURT, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE DEAD.
ANY ISSUES WITH 3.06, OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT? 3.07, WE WENT SIMPLE.
WE DELETED, WE JUST SAID YOU HAVE ALL THE POWER TO SELF GOVERNMENT.
AND IT RESIDES IN THE LEGISLATURE, WHICH IS THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE DELETED ALL THE FOLLOW WALL, UNNECESSARY MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE TOOK OUT THE LOCATION BECAUSE CITY HALL IS FLOODED.
YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO MEET SOMEPLACE ELSE AS LONG AS THEY DESIGNATED.
WAS THERE A REASON IT'S HIGHLIGHTED NOTICE THEIR ISSUE? UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ON, UH, PUBLICATION IN THE NEWSPAPER OR POSTING ON A WEBSITE.
SO THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THAT.
SO WE EITHER KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS OR YOU DISCUSS IT AND CHANGE IT.
WE CAN KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS, BUT I HIGHLIGHTED IT GOES, IT WAS NOTICEABLE.
AND I MEAN, STRICTLY SPEAKING, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER ANYMORE.
I MEAN, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT OUR, I MEAN, WHEN THEY DIDN'T, WHEN THEY MOVED OUT OF ANGLETON THOUGH, ARE WE STILL CONSIDERING THEM? OUR OFFICIAL,
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YEAH.UM, AND THE REASON THAT'S NECESSARY IS BECAUSE OF THE PUBLICATION OF ALL OF OUR NOTICES.
RIGHT? SO BY ORDINANCE, THE COUNTY FAX IS OUR OFFICIAL.
HAVE WE BEEN PUBLISHING CHRIS IN THE FACTS? IS THAT, IS IT MORE COST-EFFECTIVE FOR THE CITY TO SAY, CAN WE PUBLISH IT JUST ON THE WEBSITE OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE IN PRINT MEDIA? OKAY.
AND THEN ALL OF THE CITIES TRY TO GET IT REMOVED BECAUSE NO ONE REACHED THESE PAPERS ANYMORE.
WE SPEND A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS.
THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR THAT TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO MEET.
IT'S JUST THAT THIS HAS TO BE YOU'RE EFFICIENT.
WELL, IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLISHING PERIOD.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE YOUR MEETING LOCATION, IT'S HOW YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER IT'S AN UNNECESSARY BURDEN OF COST, FIFTIES AND SIXTIES.
YOU WANTED IT IN THE NEWSPAPER.
CAUSE THAT WAS PEOPLE'S SINGULAR SOURCE OF INFORMATION.
NOW YOUR AGENDAS REQUIRED TO BE ON YOUR WEB PAGE.
SO YOU CAN DELETE THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF YOU JUST SAY PUBLISH AFTER PUBLISHING PERIOD, CORRECT.
IS THAT CLIENT WAS STAY ALONG AND THEN THE CITY CAN DESIGN HOW TO PUBLISH.
YOU STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW, UH, ALL THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND 72 HOURS NOTICE.
AND IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY MEETING, YOU DO SEND IT TO THE NEWS OF YOUR PARKS, SEND IT TO THE NEWSPAPER.
SO IS THAT IN YOUR OPINION, IF YOU FEEL LIKE GIVING YOU AN OPINION, MAKE IT EASIER BECAUSE IT GIVES US MORE FLEXIBILITY OR DOES IT MAKE IT MORE CUMBERSOME AND DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A CLEAR DIRECTIVE IN THE CHART? WELL, WE DON'T READ THE CHARTER ALL THE TIME AND LOOK AT STATE LAW BASED ON TERMS. AND THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T REMEMBER YOU GUYS EVER CHANGING THE LOCATION IN ANY, I MEAN, BUT IF YOU DO, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO WAIT ON THE PUBLICATION.
SO WHAT IF IT, RED, ALL MEETINGS SHALL BE PUBLIC AND THE CITY MAY DESIGNATE A LOCATION FOR SUCH MEETINGS AFTER PUBLICATION PURSUANT TO OR COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW.
WELL, THE THING ABOUT SAYING ALL MEETINGS SHALL BE PUBLIC IS WHEN DO YOU WANT TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? AND SOME CITIES HAVE GOTTEN TRIPPED.
SHOULD IT SAY REGULAR MEETINGS? NO, BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AND RECORD AND YOU HAVE TO OVER SOME MERCY MEETINGS ANYWAYS.
SO DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY IDEAS OR THINGS YOU'VE SEEN WORK FOR LANGUAGE THERE? MOSTLY THEY DON'T ADDRESS IT.
THEY JUST DELETE IT FROM IT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, STATE LAW REQUIRES SO ALL REQUIRES WHO YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.
SO WOULDN'T JUST LESS WORDING.
JUST BE BETTER TO JUST PUT A PERIOD.
WERE YOU AT THE MEETING WHERE WE DECIDED THAT THE DRAFTERS MUST HAVE GOTTEN PAID BY THE WORD? OKAY.
SO I DON'T WANT TO WASTE TIME.
WE'LL CHANGE THAT PARAGRAPH DOES SAY, UH, THEY SHALL HOLD ONE REGULAR MEETING A MONTH, UH, AT A TIME FIXED BY ITS CITY COUNCIL BY ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION FIXING THE DATES OF THE REGULAR MEETINGS.
THESE SPECIAL MEETINGS SHALL BE HELD DURING THE MONTH.
THIS MAY BE NECESSARY FOR THE TRANSACTION OF ALL BUSINESS AT THE CITY AND ITS CITIZENS PERIOD DELAYED FROM ALL DOWN TO THE CITY SECRETARY AT THE CITY SECRETARY PORTION, THEN THIS PARAGRAPH GOES A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND HE TALKS ABOUT WHO CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING.
AND IT'S EITHER THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR PRO TEM.
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UH, NO, NO THAT'S VACANCY.ONE COUNT REMAINING COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, NOTICE SUCH SPECIAL NATURE BEGIN MEMBERS.
SO WE, WE ADDRESS IT AT THE BOTTOM WHERE WE SAY THE CITY MANAGER OR THE MAYOR ARE TO ANY TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
WHAT YOU NEED THAT TO FORESTALL.
IF YOU EVER BECOME A DIVIDED COUNCIL, THEY'LL PLAY MONKEY BUSINESS WITH THE AGENDA, TRYING TO GET TO LET US REWORK 3.08 AND JUST COME BACK TO YOU ALL TRYING TO DO IT ON THE BLOCK.
BUT IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID, YOU DEFINITELY DO WANT THE REMOVAL OF THE SENTENCE THAT GRADY JUST READ ABOUT, UM, THE CITY HALL AND ALL THAT.
WELL, I THINK THE DISASTER CLAUSE IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF MOST OF THIS ALREADY.
RIGHT? MOST OF THE MIDDLE OF 3 0 8 IS REDUNDANT BECAUSE OF THE DISASTER CLAUSE THAT WE PUT ABOVE.
AND THEN WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE IT SAYS THAT LAST SENTENCE, THE CITY MANAGER, THE MAYOR, OR TO ANY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
SO JUST TO, I GUESS, A CONVERSATIONAL POINT.
SO YOU SAY THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR PRO TEM OR AC COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM IN THE ABSENCE OF THE MIRROR OR TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
OR IS THAT KIND OF BY POSITION THAT GORILLA, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR COFFEE ANY WAY YOU WANT IT IN THIS, USUALLY IT'S THE CITY MANAGER OR THE MAYOR ASKING FOR SOMETHING TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
99% OF THE TIME, IF YOU HAVE A CONTROVERSY OR A SPLIT COUNCIL, YOU CAN HAVE THE RABBLE ROUSER GUMMING UP THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT'S ON IT.
IS THAT PERSON DOING IT WAS, THAT COULD BE THE MAYOR, BUT WE FOUND IT WORKS BETTER.
IF YOU HAVE AT LEAST TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CONCURRED THAT SOMETHING GO ON WITH THE AGENDA OR THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER.
NO, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH THE TWO CITY COUNCIL.
WHAT SOMEONE, EVERY MEETING AGENDA.
WELL, AND WOULD IT BE ODD BECAUSE OUR MAYOR IS BASICALLY, I MEAN, NOT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL, BUT ESSENTIALLY FUNCTIONS AS JUST ANOTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL WITH A BOAT AND EVERYTHING.
WOULD IT BE UNUSUAL FOR US TO SAY THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, LIKE FOUR? IS THAT THE, SHOULD WE LEAVE IT TO WHERE JUST THE MARILYN COULD PUT IT ON THERE? SURE.
I THINK PROCEDURALLY I DO THAT ANYWAYS.
SO THE SECRETARY AND I IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR ATTORNEY, LIKE WE'RE DOING FOR NEXT WEEK, WE PUT TOGETHER THE AGENDA AND REVIEW IT.
I THINK THIS IS A CASE OF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE DON'T PUT, IF WE THERE'S SOMETHING THEY WANT WRONG ON THE AGENDA, THEY REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THIS PAST WEEK AND THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
LIKE WE DID THE WINTER STORM, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD SAY, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.
AND LIKE, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S YOU GET TWO OF THEM.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON GOT AN EXTRA GRIND ARE USING AS THE PLATFORM, RIGHT.
BUT, SO, SO I THINK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER, I MEAN, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF SOP OR SOMETHING THAT IT'S THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY SECRETARY THAT FORMED THE NORMAL AGENDA.
I JUST THINK POLICY WISE, THE MAYOR OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, THE CEREMONIAL HEADED.
YEAH, NO, THAT WAS CURIOSITY ON MY PART, JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR CITY FUNCTIONS, THE WAY OUR COUNCIL FUNCTIONS AND ITS COMPOSITION, SO, OKAY.
SO SHOULD WE LET YOU ALL WHERE YOU WORK THROUGH US? SO THEN I MOVED TO 3.09.
SO WE LEARNED SOMETHING IN OUR LITTLE TEXAS CITY ATTORNEY ASSOCIATION, SUMMER CONFERENCE, UH, NEVER PUT RULES OF PROCEDURE.
SO GOVERN OTHER THAN BECAUSE COURTS WILL TRY TO ENFORCE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS AS LAW OF THE CITY.
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JUST MEETING RULES.SO IN THE OLD HABIT BROUGHT HERE, THIS IS A CITY COUNCIL.
SO DETERMINED ITS OWN RULES, RIGHT? THAT MAY COMPEL THE ATTENDANCE OF ITS MEMBERS.
I HAD ONE MAYOR TRY TO ARREST SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE BREAKING QUORUM.
NOW THE GOVERNOR'S COP IS COPYING HIM.
BUT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, WE FOUND OUT HE DID NOT HAVE THE POWER UNDER THAT CHARTER.
BUT HERE, UH, THIS CLEARLY SAYS YOU DO.
WE'VE DEFINED A QUORUM AS FOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, AND THE MAYOR IS DEFINED AS A MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL.
AND, UH, WE CHANGED IT TO WHERE APPROVAL.
IF FOUR IS A QUORUM, THEN THREE WILL WILL CARRY THE MOTION IS THAT'S A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS PRESENT THOSE FOUR.
AND YOU COULD HAVE SAID IT WERE REQUIRED FOR, TO APPROVE AN ITEM, BUT YOU DIDN'T WANT THAT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT ONE GUY TO BE TOO BIG TOE SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE THREE OTHER MEMBERS DIDN'T SHOW UP.
HERE'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ON THAT, WHICH I THOUGHT ABOUT AFTER WHENEVER WE TOOK OUT THE AND QUALIFIED TO VOTE.
WHAT IF THERE, I WAS TRYING TO ENVISION A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAD ONLY A QUORUM QUORUM, BUT ONE HAD TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT.
WHAT DOES THAT DO TO US? I GUESS IT'S DONE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT DOES REQUIRE UNANIMITY KIDS JUST, BUT IT'S STILL THREE BOATS OR DOES IT BECAUSE OTHERWISE UNDER THAT, IT COULD BE.
SO, UH, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE RUN INTO THIS PROBLEM.
YOU'VE GOT TWO TYPES OF CONFLICTS.
YOU'VE GOT DEDUCT AND COVER CONFLICT BECAUSE THIS A CONTROVERSIAL MEASURE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON TOM.
I WANT TO PROTECT MY POLITICAL HOT, WHICH WE WILL GET INTO THE CHARTER PROVISION THAT SAYS, IF YOU DON'T VOTE AND IT'S NOT A STATUTORY CONFLICT, THEN IT'S A NO VOTE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ELECTED YOU TO DO YOUR JOB AND MAKE THOSE HARD CALLS FOR MYSELF.
OTHER THAN THE DUCK AND COVER CONFLICT.
YOU HAVE A TRUE CONFLICT, WHICH UNDER TEXAS IS DEFINED BY CHAPTERS 1 72 AND ONE OR 1 71, 1 74.
AND IT GOES, BASICALLY IT'S A PECUNIARY INTEREST.
SOME STUFF LOOKS BAD, BUT IT'S NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
UM, IF YOU ARE WORK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE WRESTLING WITH ONE.
NOW, IF YOU'RE A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU WORK FOR A HOME BUILDER AND THERE IS A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY COMING INTO THE CITY.
DO YOU STILL GET TO VOTE OR DO YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? WELL, THE HOME BUILDER DOESN'T HAVE BUSINESSES BEFORE THE CITY.
THE DEVELOPER HAS BUSINESS FOR THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER DECIDES WHICH HOME BUILDERS GET THE BUILD IN HIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO IS IT CLOSE ENOUGH OR DOES IT LOOK BAD? AND WE DON'T KNOW YET.
WE'RE STILL WRESTLING WITH THAT.
IN FACT, THE MEMOS IN MY BRIEFCASE, I GOT A WRITTEN BACK TOMORROW, BUT, UH, AS OPPOSED TO NEW VIEWER WORKED FOR THE DEVELOPER, AND IF THEY HAD A BUSINESS BEFORE THE COUNCIL, THEN THERE WERE CLEARLY.
OR IF YOU WERE WANTING TO NEPOTISM, IF YOU WERE WANTING TO HIRE YOUR SPOUSE.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD RECONSIDER, DELETING AND QUALIFY AND LEAVE IT IN THERE AND LEAVE IT.
BECAUSE USUALLY IF IT'S A TRUE CONFLICT, YOU WOULD REDUCE THE DENOMINATOR AND YOU DO ALL YOUR CALCULATIONS AND HATE YOUR HIGH SCHOOL, CALCULUS FORCED AND ALL THAT.
UH, AND TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT A QUORUM AND MAJORITY IS.
BUT IF IT'S JUST A, I DON'T WANNA VOTE ISSUE, THEN IT'S, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT CALCULATION.
SO IF YOU SAY PRESENT AND QUALIFIED, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE PRESENT AND YOU'RE DISQUALIFIED BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT SHOULDN'T MESS UP THE BOAT.
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SOMEBODY WAS SCRATCHING.SOMETHING'S GOING ON? IT'S THE MICE, ALL RIGHT, UM, PROCEDURE OR PASSING.
OR WE RENUMBERED OFFICIAL BONDS FOR CITY EMPLOYEE AND INVESTIGATIONS BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND JACK THE FINE UP TO MAXIMUM OF 500.
AND THAT TAKES US THROUGH EVERYTHING.
NOW WE GET TO THE BLOOD DIAMONDS OF RED MARKS, TRYING TO KEEP THE MARKET FROM ROLLING OFF ON THE FLOOR IS BEGINS ON THE CHARTER.
I HAVE 33 IN THE PACKET PAGE 11 OF THE CHARTER, 11 AND 41, 2 33, 3 0.13.
SO, UH, AGAIN, LESS IS MORE AUDIT AND EXAMINATION OF CITY OF BOOKS AND ACCOUNTS IS ALREADY REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE AN ANNUAL AUDIT CITIES GO THROUGH AUDITORS.
I KEEP THEM FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND THEN THEY'RE ALWAYS ROTATING THEM.
NO, ONE'S CO-OPTED SO WHY HAVE IT IN THERE IF IT'S ALREADY REQUIRED PER STATE? I AGREE.
TITLED AUTO THAN EXAMINATION OF CITY, FOLKS AND ACCOUNTS.
WE MADE IT THROUGH ARTICLE THREE.
NOW WE'RE ON THE ARTICLE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.
AND THE FIRST ONE UP IS THE CITY MANAGER.
ANYBODY WANT TO COPE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NOW THIS BODY CAN'T GO AND EXECUTIVE, I AGREE.
AND YOU MISS THE MISS THE ACTION.
I'VE ALREADY HAD TWO STRIKES AGAINST ME.
ONE IS THAT I FELT BRING PIZZAS.
AND THEN I REMINDED THEM THAT I FEEL
AND WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THE PHILADELPHIA.
SO, UM, THE FIRST SENTENCE, UH, THE CITY COUNCILS SHELL, A POINT AND I PUT SUPER MAJORITY CITY MANAGERS IN, IN AN ATTEMPT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE TIP OF THE SPEAR AND THEY'RE THE CEO OF THE CITY AND TRYING TO REMOVE POLITICS AS MUCH POLITICS FROM THEIR APPOINTMENT IN THEIR ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY IS TO PUT IN A SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENT TO HIRE HIM OR REMOVE HIM OR HER.
SO IF YOU TICK OFF FOUR OF THEM, YOU'RE OKAY.
YOU TAKE OFF THE FIFTH ONE, YOU GOT A PROBLEM.
FIVE OUT OF SEVEN, THERE PROBABLY IS A PROBLEM.
SO, UH, THAT'S WHY SUPER MAJORITY IS THERE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT A INSTEAD OF RIGHT NOW IT READS THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPOINT IT.
YOUR, YOUR SUGGESTION IS THAT, UM, A SUPER MAJORITY OF CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPOINT.
WHAT DOES THAT LANGUAGE LOOK LIKE? LIKE WHAT, HOW DOES THAT READ? YOU CAN EITHER SAY A SUPER MAJORITY OF SYDNEY CITY COUNCIL OR SELL A POINT, OR YOU CAN SAY THE CITY COUNCILS, SHALLOW POINT BOMB OR SUPER MAJORITY VOTE TOMATO, TOMATO, MEANING FIVE AND SEVEN.
SO MEANING FIVE OR SIX, FIVE OR SIX.
AND WE CAN DEFINE SUPER-MAJORITY.
BUT YOU DID, HE WOULD NEED TO AGREE TO THE CONCEPT OF WANTING MORE THAN A MAJORITY TO POWER OR TERMINATE THE CITY COUNCIL.
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BUT, BUT I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, MAYBE JUST WORDING IT, LIKE YOU SAY, TOMATO, TOMATO BY SAYING THIS, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEIS IT TYPICALLY UNANIMOUS THE APPOINTMENT? I WAS GOING TO SAY, I MEAN, ARE YOU PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION? AND ARE YOU ALLOWED TO DISCLOSE IT WAS THE LAST ONE DISMISSED UNANIMOUSLY.
WAS CHRIS HIRED UNANIMOUSLY? LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU, HOW DOES THAT SPLIT? USUALLY SHAKE OUT FOR US IF YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU CAN TELL US WELL, SO I WAS HIRED UNANIMOUSLY.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH, LIKE THE SUPER MAJORITY WORDING PREVENTS AGAIN, I'LL SAY OTHER CITIES WHERE YOU GOT TO SPLIT DOWN THE ROAD, ACTUALLY POLITICS COMING INTO PLAY IS THERE TO CREATE SOME STABILITY.
HOW IS THE, HOW, HOW ARE YOU HIRED? IS THERE LIKE TYPICALLY LIKE A SEARCH COMMITTEE OR IS IT LIKE OUT OUTSOURCED OR WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US? WELL, IT'S REALLY, UM, UP TO THE COUNCIL ON WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW BEFORE ME, BUT I GUESSING IT WAS A COMMITTEE OR SEARCH OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN I DON'T THINK WE KNOW.
BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WERE APPLICANTS AND THEN THEY WERE BROUGHT IN AND INTERVIEWED BY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BASICALLY HEAD HUNTERS.
BUT I WAS, I WAS HIRED AS AN INTERIM AND THEN I WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY.
AND, UH, THE COUNCIL WANTED TO SORT OF A MIDPOINT CHECK WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO GO OUT OR NOT, AND THEN THEY MADE AN OFFER, SO.
SO THEN COULD IT READ, OH YEAH.
YOU DON'T WANT TO REQUIRE MORE RIGHT BY VOTE OF NO, FEWER THAN FIVE.
HOWEVER THAT NEEDS TO BE WORDED.
SO Y'ALL ARE GOOD WITH SUPER MAJORITY.
I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH SUPER MAJORITY.
I DON'T LIKE THE, AND THAT MAY BE THE LAW, BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE THE UNANIMOUS, IF SOMEBODY, IF THAT SEAT IS OPEN, RIGHT.
I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S KIND OF WEIRD.
THAT PERSON JUST DON'T SHOW UP TO VOTE.
THAT IT'S AN ELBOW, RIGHT? WELL, DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WORDED, IF YOU SAY THE ENTIRE COUNCIL OR THE MEMBERS PRESENT.
SO IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP TO VOTE AND THE CHARTER RATES MEMBER PRESENT IN THERE, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
BUT IF IT SAYS THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AND THEY'RE BRIGHT TRYING TO BREAK A QUORUM AND NOT SHOW UP, THEN THEY COULD PLAY POLITICS AND BE SUCCESS WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE VACANCY.
SO IN THEORY, THIS COULD SAY A SUPER MAJORITY OF MEMBERS PRESENT.
THAT WOULD JUST GO BACK TO FIVE WAS PRESENT.
THE, UH, YOUR SUGGESTION OR YOUR IDEA, THOSE FOR THIS TO READ A SUPER MAJORITY OF COUNSELING.
AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CRAFT THE LANGUAGE ON THIS SECTION.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE CONCEPTS AGREED TO SUPER MAJORITY.
IT TAKES OUT THE CITY MANAGER.
I MEAN, IT COUNCIL'S ENGAGED THAT MUCH WITHIN THE HIRING PROCESS.
THERE SHOULD BE SOME LEVEL OF BUY-IN BEFORE THEY WOULD EVEN GO TO A VOTE.
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THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO DO A SUPER MAJORITY.SO IT WAS A PRETTY USUAL TYPICAL, UH, TO TERM SUPER MAJORITY, IF SO ALL THE MODERN AND NEWER CHARTERS, MOST CITY ATTORNEYS IN THE STATE ARE SUGGESTING THAT GOES IN SOMETIMES IT'S BOX, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT, BUT, UM, UH, YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, THE GUY IS THE CEO, THE GUY OR GAL IS THE CEO.
AND EITHER HE HAS A CONTRACT THAT HAS A GOLDEN PARACHUTE IN IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, FIRE ME, I DON'T CARE.
I'M GOING TO GET PAID HERE OR I'VE TRIED TO DO MY JOB YOU'RE AND HOISTED, UM, BEFORE COUNCIL OR REVIEW CONSTANTLY.
UH, AND IF THEY CAN'T GET THE BOAT, THEN YOU KNOW, THE CLIQUES DON'T WIN TO TRY TO RUN SOMEBODY OFF.
AND THAT'S, IF IT IS A VALID PROBLEM WITH WHAT THE CITY MANAGER IS DOING, THEN IT SHOULD BE, BE, WE'LL BE GOOD FATHER, THE FATHER, THE THING IS, IF YOU'RE RIGHT, IF THE CITY MANAGER IS DOING A SORT OF SO-SO JOB, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME POLARIZATION WHERE A FEW FOR A FEW GAMES, BUT IF THE CITY MANAGEMENT REALLY BAD JOB, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX, LET'S GO, GO AHEAD AND TRY THAT AND SAY, THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.
SO I THINK, I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ON WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY, JUST A WORD, THE WORDING, HOWEVER, IS CRAFTED UP.
SO YOU ALL WORK ON THAT AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND MOVE ON AND ON, BUT WE'RE GOOD WITH THE CONCEPT OF A SCOOPER.
SO BE THE CITY MANAGER, SO NOT BE APPOINTED FOR A DEFINITE TERM.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE YOUR FAMILY HERE FOR A YEAR.
I THINK YOU SHOULD REQUIRE A WRITTEN CONTRACT AND THAT'S JUST THE LAWYER PUT IT ON PAPER.
SO ALL ONE, AS AN ARGUMENT, THEY DON'T WANT TO REQUIRE A WRITTEN
AND I THINK THE CONTRACT IS GOOD FOR BOTH PARTIES FOR THE CITY.
AND BECAUSE WITH ANY NEW IMPORTANT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU MOVE WITH YOUR FAMILY FROM ONE PLACE, THIS WAS ESTABLISHED BY A HOMEMADE, BUT HAVING A CONTRACT THAT'S WRITTEN UP, I THINK THAT WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO YOUR FAVORITE TO HAPPEN SORT OF LIFTING TOWARDS MY PURCHASING.
SO I THINK THE CONTRACT FOR BOTH PARTIES, I HEARD ONE STATISTIC AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IT, BUT I THINK THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF THE CITY MANAGER EMPLOYMENT IS THREE YEARS, WHICH IS SHARP.
AND YOU WANT TO TRY TO GET SOME LONGEVITY IN THERE.
AND SO YOU WANT THE PERSON HE WANTS, HE OR SHE WANTS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY'VE GOT AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT.
AND, UH, THE CITY WANTS TO ME TO GO, TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE FROM HOW ARE THESE TERMS FIXED NOW BY ORDINANCE OR HANDSHAKE ON IT? I MEAN, OKAY.
I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, HERE'S THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT, WE HAVE SIMILAR, SIMILAR TERMS. AND NOW YOU SAID CONTRACT, DO YOU HAVE A CONTRACT? SO YOU HAVE A CONTRACT.
SO MAYBE, MAYBE CHRISTMAS SHIT IS CONTRACT.
LIKE YOU CAN GO IN AND GET SOME WHAT USED BY CONTRACT, BECAUSE IT MAY BE OPEN-ENDED CONTRACT BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE HIERARCHY ANY JOB AND I'LL GIVE YOU HER ONTO THE TUMBLE COMPANY, WHICHEVER KIND OF ORGANIZATION, MOST OF YOU DON'T HIRE HIM WITH DEFENDANT DATA, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO NEED? SO A CONTRACT CAN WORK FOR THE CITY MANAGER, BUT IT CAN SORT OF HURT THE CITY MANAGER IF THERE'S LIMITS SET IN THE CONTRACT.
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CONTRACT SAY, HEY SON, AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING GOES, WELL, IT JUST PATCH AND THAT'S ADVANTAGEOUS, BUT OTHERWISE CONTRACTS COULD.DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN CONTRACT THAT YOU TRAVEL AROUND WITH, FROM JOB TO JOB OR DOES IT USUALLY THE CITY? YEAH.
SO MY FIRST JOB, I DIDN'T COME IN WITH A CONTRACT, UM, PROBABLY A YEAR TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANTED TO GIVE ME A CONTRACT TO, AGAIN, FACILITATE THAT.
WE WANT YOU HERE FOR A LONG TERM KIND OF THING.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SIT A MANAGER, NO, THEIR ASSOCIATION AS A CONTRACT, THEY FOUND THE GUY I READ ABOUT, BUT THERE, THE CITY MANUAL HAS A CONTRACT THAT CHRIS AND COUNCIL, HIS SON Y'ALL WORKED ON THAT.
SO IF WE REFERENCE A CONTRACT IN HERE, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO CREATE THE WHEEL.
IT'S WHEN IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
I JUST WANT TO PREVENT SOME INFORMALITIES.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE DOING IT ANYWAY.
I WANT TO JUST ADD THE LANGUAGE IN THERE.
SO THEN YES, LET'S REFERENCE THE CONTRACT.
HOWEVER YOU CAN CRAFT THAT WORDING THEN, UM, A PHRASE IN THERE IN THE LAST BOX IS REVIEW AT LEAST ONCE, BUT NO MORE THAN TWICE PER YEAR.
YOU DON'T WANT HIM PAUL DRUG BEFORE COUNCIL IS A FARMER HARASSMENT JOB SAYING NOT HERE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE AUTO REVIEW, THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE ONCE A YEAR, IS THAT A TERM IN THE CONTRACT THERE? IF IT'S NOT PRECISELY THIS, THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE ALONG THOSE LINES ABOUT PERFORMANCE REVIEW OR ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW.
SO IF IT'S IN THE CONTRACT, DOES IT NEED TO BE IN THE CHARTER IF WE'RE REFERENCING THE CONTRACT IN THE CHARTER, WE'RE JUST SAYING THE BASICALLY IMPLEMENT PERMANENT.
DO YOU WANT IT IN HIS CONTRACT OR CHANGE? RIGHT.
SO, SO I MEAN, I'LL TELL YOU FROM A CITY MANAGER, I, I LIKE REVIEWS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT SIX BOSSES AND 20,000 PEOPLE WITH OPINIONS ON PERFORMANCE.
AND THEN MY FIRST YEAR, MY FIRST CITY WAS, I WANTED A SIX MONTH REVIEW.
NOT AGAIN, NO PERFORMANCE PAY OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THE ASTHMA CHECK, LIKE, AM I HEADING DOWN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? I'VE NEVER BEEN A CITY MANAGER BEFORE.
BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE WHEN YOU CAME IN, YOU CAME IN AND COME IN ON THE JOB THAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO YOU CAME IN TO DO A GOOD JOB, BUT FOR THOSE GUYS WHO DON'T COME IN TO DO A GOOD JOB, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT THOSE REVIEWS.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S FORCED THE HAND TO MAKE THEM HAVE A REVIEW EVERY SIX MONTHS.
SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH EVERY SECOND.
UM, I WOULD HAVE KATIE A YEAR.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, WHAT DOES HE EVEN DID? LIKE AT THE SIX MONTHS MARK AND ON THE, ON OR NEAR THE ANNUAL ANNIVERSARY OF EMPLOYMENT THEREAFTER, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL CAN CALL FOR THE VIEW.
ANYTIME THAT THEY ROLLED IT WITHIN THAT YEAR WOULD TIE THEIR HANDS.
DO YOU SEE LIKE THIS TYPE OF PRESCRIPTION AND A LOT OF OTHER CHARTERS? SO I GUESS I'M JUST THINKING LIKE WHEN I WAS IN HR, I MEAN, LIKE WE USED TO GIVE OUT PERFORMANCE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WERE TIED TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, REVIEWS EVERY THREE WEEKS TO SIX WEEKS AND LIKE TO GET THAT PERSON BACK ON TRACK, LIKE, WOULD YOU END HIS BAY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING AT A CITY LEVEL PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN WE'VE HAD TO DO DEPARTMENT HEADS NOT HERE.
UH, DID WE EDUCATE THEM TO GET THEM BACK ON TRACK? AND THOSE THAT IS DOWN, THAT'S THE CEO, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER'S JOB TO DO THAT FOR ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES.
BUT FOR THE COUNCIL IS SIX BOSSES.
WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW HIM SOMETIME DURING A YEAR AND THEY COULD DO IT TWICE A YEAR IF THEY SAID IF THEY SUBMITTED.
AND THEN IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN MORE AND THEY CAN DECIDE THAT, CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BOG THEM DOWN WITH PERFORMANCE REVIEWS.
THEY NEED TO BE HANDLED WITH BUSINESS.
SO WE DID, WE DID PLPS AT DELL TOO.
WHEN I WAS IN SUPERVISION, WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE A PIP FOLLOWUP IN THREE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS.
SO, SO THAT GIVES THEM THAT OPTION.
NOW, REMEMBER IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORK, ALL THOSE EMPLOYEE
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REVIEWS ARE PUBLIC AND NOSY NELLIES WILL FOLLOW AN OPEN RECORDS, REQUEST IT, REVIEW, REVIEW IT.AND I'VE HAD SOME CITIES JUST STOP ALL TOGETHER OR LATE TO PUTTING IT IN.
BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SAY DENNIS AGAIN, I MEAN, I REVIEWED ANYTHING MORE THAN A YEAR IN THE, IN THE VEIN OF A PERFORMANCE.
SO I TREAT ALL THE SALT MEMBERS, ALL OF THE SENIOR FOLKS FOR ANGLETON, YOU KNOW, THEY GET THE ANNUAL REVIEW.
WE DO AS IN THE CHECK INFORMALLY, IF THE SIX MONTHS OR A NEW EMPLOYEE, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS IN A YEAR.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M NOT TALKING TO THEM DIRECTLY ABOUT THEIR PERFORMANCE IN AN OFFICIAL SETTING.
AND BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCHEME OF ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY, I MEAN, A LOT OF THEM ARE SIX MONTHS OR MORE PROJECTS.
AND SO UNLESS IT'S A BEHAVIORAL OR PERFORMANCE THING IN OTHER AREAS, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GRADE.
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO RATE PEOPLE IN THAT.
SO DO YOU AGREE TO THAT? NOT MORE THAN TWICE.
PROMISED I WOULDN'T GET ON MY SOAP BOX, BUT I'M ON TO EDGE RIGHT UP TO THE HIGHLIGHTED PART APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL HERE IS THE CITY COUNCIL TRYING TO MANAGE DEPARTMENT HAS AN EMPLOYEE.
SO THE CITY MANAGER OUGHT TO BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE TO THE ACCOUNTANTS.
THEN DEPARTMENT IS, WE'LL GO POLITIC TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD, ONE OF THE POLITICS, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, EITHER GET APPOINTED OR KNOCK SOMEBODY ELSE OUT.
DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PROBLEM, BUT JUST THE PUREST OF ORGANIZATION, WHICH ARE CITIZENS, MAYOR, CITY, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, EVERYBODY BELOW HIM WITHOUT LINES, CROSS WHERE IT SAYS HE SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PORN AND REMOVAL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DEFINE DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE, BUT IN INTERESTED IN CHRISTIAN'S OPINION, HE MAY WANT COUNSEL BY HIM.
BUT, UH, I JUST DON'T WANT THE TORONTO GO OVER THE HEAD OF CITY.
HAVE YOU GOTTEN SIT IN COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR DEPARTMENT HEAD? NO.
FOR THE TREASURER AS PER THE CHARTER.
UH, POLICE CHIEF WILL BE TUESDAY NIGHT, NO DECISION.
UM, AND I THINK IT IS FRANCIS WHEN SHE GOT HIRED.
I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE IT'S IN CHARTER.
BUT DEPARTMENT HEADS REALLY IT'S.
UM, I JUST, I HAVE A INVOLVEMENT TYPE OF PERSONALITY WHERE, WHEN WE HIRED THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, I HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE BOARD AND I KEPT THEM APPRISED.
WHEN I HIRED, UM, WALTER, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
THEY WEREN'T ON THE, ON THE BOARD NECESSARILY, BUT I KEPT THEM APPRISED.
UM, WITH THE POLICE CHIEF PIECE.
THAT'S BEEN A VERY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
UM, SO I MEAN, WELL, I'LL GO, I'LL SAY THAT I AM OF THE OPINION THAT YOU HIRE GOOD PEOPLE AND YOU LET THEM DO THEIR JOB.
SO CITY COUNCIL ARE A GOOD CITY MANAGER.
YOU LET HIM MANAGE THE CITY, WHICH TO ME WOULD BE TAKING THAT LANGUAGE OUT.
YOU DON'T NEED TO RUN TO THEM AND GET THEIR APPROVAL.
IF THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH THE DEPARTMENT, HAS THEY SHOULD COME TO THIS MAN AND LET HIM DO HIS JOB.
BUT, BUT I'M NOT SURE DEPARTMENT HEAD IS, AND MAYBE Y'ALL CAN HELP IS THE RIGHT TERM ANYMORE.
SO IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER HAVING THIS DISTINCT CONVERSATION WITH YOUR HR DIRECTOR, THAT YOU HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND YOU HAVE DIRECTORS, BUT A DEPARTMENT HEAD IS USUALLY
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SOMEBODY UNDER A DIRECTOR IT'S REALLY QUITE UNUSUAL.UM, SO I'M NOT SURE OF YOUR CURRENT STATUS, BUT WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE DEPARTMENT, HEAD TO DIRECTOR.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DOUBLE-CHECK HOW, BECAUSE IN THEORY DEPARTMENT HEAD COULD FALL UNDER THAT NEXT SENTENCE, ALL OTHER EMPLOYEES.
SO IT USED TO BE THAT THEY HAD DEPARTMENT HEADS, BUT THEY HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM THAT.
AND WHEN WE REWROTE THE EMPLOYEE POLICY MANUAL, THAT WAS EFFECTUATED EARLY THIS YEAR, I'M PRETTY SURE IT SAYS DIRECTORS.
SO REALLY I THINK THAT SHOULD BE DIRECTORS.
SO, UM, AND THE REASON WHY I GOT AWAY, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE, SOME FOLKS FELT, AGAIN, I CALL IT THE SENIOR ANGLOS ANGLETON LEADERSHIP TEAM SALT.
SO IF YOU HEAR THAT, THAT'S, IT'S, I CALL IT THE KEY LEADERS THAT I HAVE.
AND SO LIKE I HAVE PATTY HORDES, WHO'S A GRANT AND PROJECT COORDINATORS.
SHE'S NOT A DIRECTOR BY THE HR DEFINITION CAUSE SHE HAS NO FOLKS AND SHE REALLY DOESN'T HAVE AN APART DEPARTMENT.
SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANY PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR HER, BUT JESUS, SHE'S A KEY LEADER AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW.
UM, AND WHEN I HIRED ON, I DIDN'T TELL HER THE COUNCIL, BUT I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, GET TO GO ASK PERMISSION KIND OF DEAL.
I JUST HAD THE BUDGET AND THE NEED AND THE POSITION I'M CREATING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, DID IT, SO, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT TERM IS.
WELL, WE COULD DO AWAY WITH BOTH TERMS AND JUST SAY THAT THE, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPOINT AND REMOVE ALL EMPLOYEES.
I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE IF YOU SAY DIRECTORS, THEN YOU KNOW, IT GETS CONFUSING.
THEN WHO AM I AUTHORIZED TO REMOVE? IF I SAY DEPARTMENT HEADS AGAIN, THEN YOU GO SAY DEPARTMENT HEADS DIRECTORS.
I THINK THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS IN THERE BECAUSE THAT REQUIRED THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL.
BUT OF COURSE SAYING IT DOES NOTHING REQUIRED TO BE A FOOTBALL CITY COUNCIL.
THEN THERE'S, THEN IT'S A DISTINCTION WITHOUT DIFFERENCE.
THERE'S, THERE'S UH, THREE PEOPLE, THE POLICE CHIEF, THE CITY SECRETARY AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR THAT ARE, BUT THOSE ARE IN OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CHARTER.
AND I, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THAT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IF YOU GET A W2 FROM THE CITY YEAH.
UH, HOW ARE THE COUNCIL, IF YOU ALL PUT YOUR COUNSEL THERE, IS THAT A W2 OR A 10? SO THE W2 I THINK.
SO WE WILL, THEN HE SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPOINT OR REMOVE ALL CITY EMPLOYEES.
DO WE NEED TO PUT WITH EXCEPTION OF COUNCIL IF WE'RE DEFINING THEM? OKAY.
AND THERE WAS AN, ALMOST AN INCIDENT, UH, THIS YEAR YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT WHERE I MET, I MAY HAVE HAD TO FIRE AN EMPLOYEE, LIKE GO ONE DOWN BASED ON IT INCIDENT.
UM, IN THE END, THE I'LL JUST SAY DEPARTMENT HEAD, UH, TOOK CARE OF IT AND IT BECAME THEIR ISSUE TO DEAL WITH.
BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALL EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU SAY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND DON'T, YOU GET INTO LEGALITY OF LIKE WHO I CAN AND, OR CAMPFIRE, LIKE IF I, IF I DETERMINE I NEED TO FIRE SOMEONE, THAT'S TWO LEVELS DOWN OR A LEVEL DOWN, THAT'S NOT IN MY DIRECT RAPPORT.
THAT LIMITS THAT ABILITY RIGHT.
AND THIS MAY SOUND CRAZY, BUT I HAD A SIXTH ONE SO LESS IS BETTER, EXCEPT WE'RE NOT SIPHONING SIX, PREACH IT ALL TIME.
THE WHOLE TIME YOU'RE ADDING STUFF, SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF FACE, FULLY EXECUTE THE LAWS OF THE, AND THE CITY WAS NOWHERE IN HERE.
DOES IT SAY THAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE, WELL, HOW DO YOU KNOW ONE PLUS ONE IS TWO AND IF WE SET IT OUT THERE, THEN YEAH.
WHICH, I MEAN, YES, IT'S OBVIOUS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A WHOLE COURT CASE OVER.
NOW HOW WILL IT LOCK BEFORE THE CHIEF HAS TO LEAVE TO DROP DOWN TO 4.808 AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY
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I FORGOT YEAH.AND I'M NOT IN THAT BIG OF A HURRY ANYMORE.
MY ASSISTANT CHIEFS GOING TO GO TO THAT MEETING FOR ME.
NOW I'LL SCROLL DOWN TO PAGE 36, WHICH IS 4.08.
I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT EXCEPT YOU'RE ACHIEVED.
UH, WE CAN CALL OUT THESE DEPARTMENTS.
UM, THIS ONE SAYS THE COUNCIL MANY ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT SAYS MAY, UH, THAT DOESN'T TIE THE COUNCIL'S HANDS IF THEY WANTED TO GO TO FULL-TIME, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, I JUST PUT A NOTE THERE AND KEEP NOT TO GET RID OF IT, BUT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE.
SO, UH, SO FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE NOT A FULLY VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT ANY LONGER, SO VOLUNTEER NEEDS TO COME OUT.
IT NEEDS TO JUST SAY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UM, I CAN READ THAT TO YOU.
IT PRETTY MUCH, IT MENTIONS OUR CHARTER WORD FOR WORD, EXCEPT FOR OUR CHARTER IS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED.
THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT WE CAN TAKE OUT.
UM, I MEAN, WE CAN GO EXTREMELY SIMPLE AND SAY THE CITY SHALL ESTABLISH A FIRE DEPARTMENT PERIOD.
SO LET ME READ THIS, LET ME READ THIS TO YOU.
THIS IS WHAT I PRETTY MUCH READ TO OUR OFFICERS OF OUR DEPARTMENT.
SO LET ME EXPLAIN IN A VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT HOW THIS WORKS.
SO THE VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT CHOOSES THEIR LEADER, SO THEY CHOOSE THEIR CHIEF.
IT'S A, UM, SOME ARE ANNUAL ELECTIONS.
SOME ARE EVERY TWO YEARS, SOME ARE EVEN FOUR YEARS, BUT THAT'S ALL DONE BY THE DEPARTMENTS.
IT'S ALSO MADE UP BY THE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S NOT A CITY, UM, WITH OUR CASE, WE'RE SPECIAL BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE PAID EMPLOYEES.
AND SO RIGHT NOW THE PAID EMPLOYEES ANSWER TO THE VOLUNTEER CHIEF, WHO IS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO ANSWERS TO CITY MANAGER.
SO IN A VOLUNTEER AND A VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL WITH LEAVING THAT CONTROL WITH THOSE VOLUNTEERS.
CAUSE THEY THEY'VE GOT BUY IN.
THEY HAVE, THEY MET, THEY RUN THEIR DEPARTMENT.
HOWEVER, YOU ALSO HAVE TO GIVE SOME CONTROL TO THE CITY IF THE CITY NEEDS TO STEP IN.
SO IF THE VOLUNTEERS, BOTH BUBBA YIN AND AS A, AS A FIRE CHIEF FROM BUBBA DON'T KNOW, FIRE CHIEF AND THINGS ARE GOING CRAZY.
YOU'VE GOT TO LEAVE OR THE CITY CAN STEP IN TO SAY, HEY GUYS, YOU'VE GOT THE DIXON.
UM, HONESTLY, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS WORD FOR WORD COVERS EVERYTHING.
UM, SO 3 42 0 4, IT SAYS THE GOVERNING BODY OF A MUNICIPALITY MAY ORGANIZE A FIRE DEPARTMENT CONSISTING OF FIRE COMPANIES AND THE CHIEF AND ANY ASSISTANT ENGINEERS.
THE GOVERNING BODY SHALL PRESCRIBE THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ITS OFFICERS.
UM, EACH COMPANY MAY ELECT ITS OWN MEMBERS AND OFFICERS, A COMPANY MAY ADOPT A CONSTITUTION AND BYLAWS THAT ARE NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE STATUES AND THE MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES.
SO IN THE FIRE SERVICE, A COMPANY, A COMPANY IS A GROUP, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE COMPANY ONE WHO HAS A CAPTAIN, THE LIEUTENANT TO CAPTAIN LIEUTENANT, AND THEY GET 10 TO 25.
AND UNDERNEATH, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ENGINEERS SHALL BE CHOSEN AS DETERMINED BY THE DEPARTMENT SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE GOVERNING BODY, UM, WHICH SHALL PASS ORDINANCES THAT IT CONSIDERS NECESSARY FOR THE WELFARE DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE'S THE MEAT, IN MY OPINION, THEN GIVE CITY COUNCIL TO STEP IN IF THEY NEEDED TO CORRECT ME IF I'M NO, NO, YOU'RE FINE.
UM, WHERE WAS I AT? WHAT'D SHALL BE PASSED.
THE MAYOR SHALL COMMISSION EACH ELECTED OFFICER APPROVED BY THE GOVERNING BODY.
THE GOVERNING BODY MAY OBTAIN FIRE ENGINES AND OTHER FIRE PROTECTION EQUIPMENT CONTROL THE USE OF THE EQUIPMENT AND PROVIDE POWER STATIONS TO PRESERVE
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THE EQUIPMENT.THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHALL MAINTAIN THE FIRE ENGINES AND OTHER FIRE PROTECTION EQUIPMENT.
SO DO WE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT CODIFIES THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EMPLOYEES AND JUDITH? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME LET'S SEE, LAST TIME, 1987.
IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT SALVAGE AND RESCUE OPERATIONS TOO.
DO WE HAVE LIKE A JAWS OF LIFE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE NEED TO REFERENCE AS WELL BECAUSE CLEARLY THE APPARATUS ARE NOT PURELY JUST FOR FIRE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE, WE COULD PUT SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE IN THERE.
UM, BUT IN HERE IT SAYS FIRE PROTECTION, EQUIPMENT CONTROL AND USE OF THE EQUIPMENT.
I GUESS WE COULD PUT FIRE PROTECTION AND RESCUE.
WHO DOES YOUR FIRE MARSHALL SERVICE CURRENTLY? WE DON'T HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL, UM, OUR INSPECTION GROUPS.
UM, THEY HANDLE THE, YOU KNOW, THE INSPECTIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WITH COLONEL.
SO WE WORK, WE WORK CLOSELY, UM, WITH THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE.
SO THEY COME AND INVESTIGATE ANY FIRES OR ANYTHING THAT WE NEED FOR THEM.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR CID DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ARSON INVESTIGATORS IN THERE, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE'S TWO WAYS TO APPROACH THIS.
WE CAN QUOTE THAT VERBATIM AND AD RESCUE ARE, WE CAN REFERENCE IT SINCE IT HADN'T CHANGED SINCE 1987 AND SAY THE CITY SETTLED, ESTABLISHED, VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT PURSUANT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE NUMBER OR A INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF VOLUNTEER A FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THEN THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SAY COMBINATION, YOU KNOW, SO IF THE CITY EVER WENT FULLY PAID FOR, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND CHANGE THAT IF YOU REFERENCE THE CODE, LIKE I SAID, THE SECOND VERSION THEY EVER CHANGE IT, THEN IT'S YOU, YOU'RE STUCK WITH WHATEVER THE STATE CHANGES THAT PARAGRAPH TO, IF WE QUOTED VERBATIM, THEN THAT'S WHAT THE CITY HAS.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T WE TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT CODE ALL THE TIME.
I WOULD, I WOULD QUOTE THIS IN HERE.
WE'LL PUT THAT IN THERE AND ADD WHAT WAS IT RESCUE.
SO WHAT DO Y'ALL DO ON THE SALVAGE? SO SALVAGE SALVAGE IS WE CALL IT SALVAGE AND OVERHAUL.
SO THAT TAKES PLACE THAT TAKES PLACE AFTER A FIRE.
UM, SO IT'S BASICALLY WE GO IN AND WE HELP THE HOMEOWNER SALVAGE ANYTHING THEY CAN.
SO ANYTHING THAT DIDN'T GET DAMAGED, WE'LL PULL IT OUT FOR THEM.
WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN TO NO PROBLEM.
SO WE WILL DELAY 4 0 8, PUT A NEW FOUR OH EIGHT IN CALL IT FIRE DEPARTMENT AND QUOTE FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE VERBATIM, BUT ALSO ADDING, UH, RESCUES.
SO DO WE NEED TO HAVE ANYTHING ADDRESSING, HELP THE VOLUNTEER OR THE PAPERWORK FOR THE VOLUNTEERS? OR IS THAT A POLICY THING OR, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO CODIFY THAT.
SO, SO BASICALLY DO WE HAVE TO PUT IN THERE HOW THE STRUCTURE IS THAT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE CHIEF IS A OR MY HEAD OR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS, I THINK ONE OF THE BIG FACTS THAT WHAT'S THE TERM IT ONE YEAR.
SO WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT 3 42 MORE OR LESS? I THINK THAT'S AN SOP THAT'S MADE UP OF WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, AND WE MAKE BYLAWS AND CURRENTLY WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO CHANGE.
I'M TRYING TO CHANGE IT ONE YEAR, BUT WE'RE MAKING AN EXCEPTION TO THE NORMAL CITY PERSONNEL POLICY WHERE CORRECT.
YOU KNOW, YOUR RATING FOR BARCLAYS.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT, HOW IT'S CURRENTLY WORKING IS LLOYD DOES THE REVIEWS.
SO LLOYD DOES ALL OF THE REVIEWS AND THEN THOSE COME TO ME AND I APPROVE THOSE REVIEWS AND THEN THEY GO, RIGHT.
AND SO THIS IS THE HANDSHAKE WE HAVE NOT AGAIN.
AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A CHARTER, BUT IS IT A POLICY THAT
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SAYS WE'RE ALLOWING CITY EMPLOYEES TO BE RATED BY THE VOLUNTEER OR BE REVIEWED, VIEWED, AND READY TO BUY.AND DOES THAT GIVE THE CITY, DOES THIS GIVE THE CITY ENOUGH, MAKE A STEP HERE? IF YOU, IF THE CHIEF IS NOT, OR THE NBN, IF HE'S NOT PERFORMING CORRECTLY, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES, HOW DOES CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER STEP IN AND SAY, HEY GUYS, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, IT'S A STICKY SITUATION.
KEEP THOSE RELATIONSHIPS CHANGED TO A LONGER TERM.
SO TWO THINGS THERE BE UNDER 3 42 0 4 SAYS COMING TO ME, ADOPT THE CONSTITUTION AND BYLAWS THAT ARE NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTES AND THE MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES.
SO BY ORDINANCE YOU CAN CONTROL IT.
AND THEN C SAYS, UH, DEPARTMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT ENGINEER.
SO I'LL BE CHOSEN AS DETERMINED BY THE DEPARTMENT SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE GOVERNING BODY.
SO YOU CAN CONTROL BASICALLY THE PEOPLE, UM, AND THE PROCEDURES OR WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, WHICH SHALL PASS ORDINANCES THAT IT CONSIDERS NECESSARY FOR THE WELFARE.
SO WHEN IT HAS GOVERNING BODY, IS IT REFERENCING CITY COUNCIL THERE? SO THEN IT SEEMS TO BE BUILT IN THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS OVERSIGHT.
AND IF WE WERE GOING TO GET ANY MORE SPECIFIC, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THE LAST CITY COUNCIL DUDE, AND AN ORDINANCE FOR HOW THE CHARTER, RIGHT.
THAT'S THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT CHARTER, LIKE THE CONSTITUTION AND ORDINANCE, LIKE SPELL LAWS THAT YOUR LEGISLATORS OR CONSTITUTION, THEN WE HAVE SOP.
SO THAT'S A TASK OUT OF YOUR CREATE THAT PART OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I KNOW IT'S A GUIDELINE, SO IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE TO THE POINT.
SO MAINLY MOST OF YOUR SLGS OR THINGS LIKE, UM, SEEING OPERATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT FOR INSTANCE, LIKE AN SOP WOULD BE SOMETHING ROOF OPERATIONS.
SO YOU WILL DO X, Y, Z, IT'S A PROCEDURE GUIDELINE CAN CHANGE.
SO IF YOU HAVE A FIRE AND YOU'RE OPERATING UNDER A MUTUAL LIGHT AGREEMENT, WHO'S IN COMMAND THE CITY OF THE CITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TOLD.
AND SO IT'S A UNIFIED COMMAND IS WHAT THEY CALL IT.
I WOULD BE IF IT WAS ME OR THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS THAT GO TO THAT CITY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO STAND WITH THEIR COMMAND.
WE'RE STILL IN COMMAND OF OUR GAS.
HOWEVER, WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT, SIR.
SO WHO DOES EMS HERE? UH, ANGLED A EMC AND THEIR CONTRACTOR.
AND THEIR CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY OR THE CITY.
SO IT'S NOT UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I REPRESENT THE VILLAGE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAS EMS, WHICH IS THE ONLY SERVICE THAT THE SIX VILLAGES THAT HOUSTON GET ALONG AND COOPERATE IN.
UH, AND SO EMS WAS A WHOLE NEW WRINKLE IN THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION WAS STRUCTURED AT WORK AS WORK.
BUT, UH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVERED THE BASES ON THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? I'M GOING TO MAKE A NOTE FOR FRANCIS.
YOU'RE GOING TO TRACK ON CREATING AN ORDINANCE.
SO WE'LL JUMP BACK UP TO 4.02 COMPARTMENT OF THE PUBLIX.
SO I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT ORDINANCE IS GOING TO SAY.
BASICALLY, IT'S BASICALLY LINING OUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE PAID WORK FOR YOU, BASICALLY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR THERE.
WE HAVE THAT BY TUESDAY BY SUNDAY.
AND CAN WE HAVE MEGAN BACK? OKAY.
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TO START.DO YOU WANT THE CHARTER TO ESTABLISH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? OTHERWISE IT'D BE SELFISH BY ORDINANCE OR WHAT'S COME FROM PRACTICE.
UM, I'VE SEEN THE POLICE CHIEF ADDRESSED AS WHO APPOINTS AND TERMINATES.
I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN A POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IN A PLANE, A LITTLE POLITICS HERE.
IF YOU'VE GOT A FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE CHARTER, YOU PROBABLY, FOR THIS ELECTION PURPOSES SHOULD HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU GET RID OF BY CITY COUNCIL AS SHOWN IN ONE WHERE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IT BY YELLOW, WHERE AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT TOO MANY BOSSES.
UM,
UM, IT BE CITY MANAGER BASED ON WHAT WE SAID.
AND THEN IN THE NEXT SENTENCE, THE POLICE CHIEF OF POLICE OVER YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE TO CITY MANAGER FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF HIS DEPARTMENT, NOT CARRYING OUT DIRECT AS THE CITY COUNCIL.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT SPECIAL POLICE ARE.
DOES ANGLETON HAVE A GOOD STOP? OH, I'M NOT.
NCI NCI S UH, NO, I JUST PUT WAT I'VE NEVER SEEN A SPECIAL POLICE.
HOW WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST JOHNNY TOO.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF SPECIAL POLICE OR SEE, OKAY.
NOT A MOTORCYCLE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S SPECIAL.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T EVEN EXPLAIN WHAT THEY, BUT MAYBE JUST MAYBE IT'S CITIZENS PATROL BECAUSE THERE I'VE SEEN THE CITIZENS PATROL CAR.
BUT THE CITY IS REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT NOT CALLING THEM POLICE.
AND WOULDN'T THAT BE HANDLED UNDER THE POLICES.
THESE ARE WHAT MAKE THIS SO SPECIAL THAT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
MAYBE IT'S THE SHERIFF'S POSSE AND THE CITY HAD A POSSE.
I REMEMBER THIS WAS REALLY GOOD.
BUT IN 2007 THERE WASN'T THAT.
WELL, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE SOME OTHER CHANGE SOMEWHERE IN A PARAGRAPH.
I DON'T KNOW THAT TWO WAS PUT IN AND OH SEVEN.
IF YOU'RE LISTENING, WE'RE ON CITY SECRETARY ON 4.03.
UM, SO YOUR CITY SECRETARY IS, UH, APPOINTED, ARE SELECTED BY THE CITY MANAGER WITH THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL.
UH, IS THAT HOW YOU WANT IT APPROVAL STRONG WORD? CAUSE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY COUNCIL.
YOU CAN TAKE OFF OF MAYER, BUT NEVER EVER TAKE OFF A CITY SECRETARY.
UH, AND THAT WAS IN SMALLER CITIES.
IT'S THEY, SOME COUNCILS THINK THE CITY SECRETARY WORKS FOR THEM AND THAT'S FINE BECAUSE SHE IS PREPARING THE MINUTES OF COUNCIL MEETINGS.
SHE'S SHE? BEFORE YOU HAVE CITY MANAGERS, IT'S REALLY, THE CITY SECRETARY WAS KIND OF RUNNING THE, RUNNING THE SMALLER CITIES ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.
IF THE MAYOR HAD HIS SECOND JOB AT SOMETHING OTHER THAN BEING MAYOR TO DO, UH, IT'S FINE THE WAY IT IS, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH
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IT, THAT'S FINE.UM, IT'S KINDA LOCK THE PRESIDENT, NOMINATES A JUDGE IN THE SENATE, APPROVES THE JUDGE HERE, THE CITY MANAGER'S GOING TO SELECT A CITY SECRETARY AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
WOULD IT BE UNUSUAL FOR YOUR CITY SECRETARY TO BE ALMOST SELECTED LIKE THE CITY MANAGER, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IS THAT UNUSUAL, LIKE ALMOST MAKE IT BE WHERE A CITY SECRETARY GETS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER GETS APPOINTED BY, I GUESS I'M THINKING OF IT LIKE THEM, A LOT OF POWER.
SO WE CALL THEM DIRECT REPORTS.
SO TYPICALLY THE CITY MANAGER IS DIRECT REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY ATTORNEY IS A DIRECT REPORT FOR COUNCIL.
WHAT TO OUR CLIENT IS THE GROUP, NOT IN INDIVIDUALS IN THE GROUND, BUT THE CITY AS REPRESENTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO CITY ATTORNEY TO LITTLE FREE RADICALS OUT THERE FLOATING AROUND RAISING HAND.
UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN CITY SECRETARIES OR POLICE CHIEFS, OUR CITY TREASURERS RISE TO THAT LEVEL.
YOU JUST WANT TO TRY AND YOU JUST REALLY WANT TO TRY TO KEEP TWO DIRECT REPORTS COUNSELING.
CAUSE THIS SHIT WORKS WHEN IT'S CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY WORK HAND IN GLOVE AND THAT WOULD SURE MAKE A MANAGER'S LIFE TOO.
AND IF YOU DID SO JUST LIKE, PLEASE SEE IF THE COUNCIL SOLELY CHOSE THE PLACE CHEAP I'VE SEEN IN CITIES WHERE THAT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT BECAUSE SHE'S LIKE, COUNCIL, AM I GOING TO DO WHAT YOU SAY? WHATEVER FOR, SO YOU SECRETARY IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE I MEAN, AT LEAST I SEE DIFFERENT WHERE THERE'S THINGS THAT FRANCES WILL INTERACT WITH THE COUNCIL ON INFORMING.
'EM A LOT OF OTHER STUFF THAT I, I'M NOT GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN.
UM, AND THEY, THEY SHOULD BE REACHED OUT EITHER HER OR ME FOR INFORMATION AND ASSISTANCE, WHATEVER I'M GOING TO SEND OUT.
MAYBE MY QUESTION WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE WHAT THAT DIVISION LOOKS LIKE.
DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR HER, BUT NO, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE I WOULD PREFER THAT AGAIN, LIKE RAY SAID, I'M THE DIRECT REPORT AND EVERYONE ELSE WORKS FOR ME.
UM, SO THAT AGAIN, I HAVE SPAN OF CONTROL FOR THE OPERATIONS BECAUSE OTHERWISE I START LOSING THAT IF THERE'S NO OTHER WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY JUST ME NOT UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT HER YOU, WHAT I MEAN, THE DIVISION OF LABOR, SO TO SPEAK.
SO, BUT SO AGAIN, FRED STOLE A LOT OF STUFF FOR JASON.
YOU KNOW, HE'LL SAY I NEED A PROCLAMATION.
I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE IN THE MIDDLE.
I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT IF YOU UNDERSTAND.
SO THE CITY, THE CITY, A SECRETARY PROVIDES SERVICES FOR ALL THESE OTHER SMALL ENTITIES NOT HIRED.
SO BASICALLY IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING SHOULD JUST STAND BY.
HE IS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS THAT WOULD HAVE SAID THE APPROVAL CITY MANAGEMENT WITH THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL.
I JUST THOUGHT APPROVAL CITY COUNCIL GAVE THE CITY COUNCIL THEIR POWER.
UH, WHAT COULD, BECAUSE SEEMED LIKE THE CITY MANAGER COULD JUST APPOINT SEPARATE HERSELF.
BUT I WOULD JUST SAY MAYBE LIKE THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT APPROVAL IS FINE.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND IT, THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL DO THE APPROVAL ROUTE.
IS THAT A POSITION THAT IS CONTINUITY FOR THE SAKE OF STABILITY IS A GOOD THING WHERE WE SHOULD LEAD WITH THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL IN THERE FOR THAT POSITION.
SO THAT IF WE END UP IN A SITUATION, WE DON'T HAVE A CITY MANAGER GO ROGUE AND START, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IN A, IN A KEY POSITION LIKE THAT OR A LITTLE BIT.
SO ON THE FLIP SIDE, THEN YOU, YOU KINDA, I'LL JUST SAY WE ALL LOSE CONTROL IF THE CITY MANAGERS.
SO IF I HAVE TO, IF I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY, FOR EXAMPLE, CHIEF KNOW THAT I COULD LOSE CONTROL BECAUSE THEN THE COUNCILS CAN'T CONTROL.
SO UNDER VOTES AND WHATEVER THEY COULD SAY, WELL, NO,
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WE KNOW LIKE TO PLACE G AND WE WANT THEM TO STAY.AND WE I'M JUST USING THAT EXAMPLE.
THE CITY SECRETARY DOES EVERYTHING WE WANT HER TO DO.
THAT'S AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF BY HIM BECAUSE I SEE THE ROLE OF CITY SECRETARY, PART OF THAT IS, IS WORKING FOR THE MAYOR AND FOR THE COUNCIL TO HELP GET THEM INFORMATION, TO HELP MOVE THE CITY OF LONG, UM, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATIVE, RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW DIFFERENCES WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL OR NOT.
WE WEREN'T HERE WHILE WE WERE HERE.
YOU'RE NOT, UM, I WOULD GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER STUFF I'VE STRUCK THERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO JUNK UP THE CHARTER WITH MICRO-MANAGING THE POSITION.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED AND I MEAN, THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER PROTECTION.
I DID LAUGH THAT THE FRAMERS OF THE CHARTER HAD THE CITY SECRETARY AS A HIM JUST LIKE THE ORDINANCES, GENDER, GENDER NEUTRAL LANGUAGE.
SO ARE YOU FINE WITH THE STRIKEOUTS ONE? AND THEN TWO, DO YOU WANT TO REMOVE OR APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL? OKAY.
I'M OKAY WITH THE STRIKE GOES WITH YOUR APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL.
SO I CAN SAY THAT IP DEBT, ANOTHER CITY CHARTER WE HAVE, AND THEY DON'T HAVE, UM, THAT, UH, APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL, HOWEVER LATER ON, THEY DO HAVE VERBIAGE THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY SECRETARY ANSWERS TO A CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOW THE CITY SECRETARY DOES SATISFY REQUESTS AND HAS DUTIES THAT SHE SERVES FOR CITY COUNCIL.
THAT MIGHT BE AN IDEA IF I'M NOT CREATING TOO MUCH, BUT THE ANSWERS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT TAKES, SO THE CITY, MANAGER'S NO LONGER LEADER FOR THE CITY SECRETARY.
SO YOU GOT BUY-IN AND THEN YOU GOT LEADERSHIP DROP MAKING, LIKE MORE OR LESS HE OR SHE WORKS.
NOW, NOW, NOW HE OR SHE IS AT THE SAME LEVEL AS THE CITY MANAGER.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS REALLY TALK ABOUT TERMINATION? THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
IT ALMOST MAKES IT SOUND LIKE TO A POINT I'M YOU HAVE TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL'S BUY-IN BUT SHE COULD ARGUE REMOVABLE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE THE APPROVAL IN.
CAUSE I THINK IT DISTORTS THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
BUT I THINK YOU CAN PUT IN SOMETHING ABOUT COORDINATING RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO NOT NECESSARILY TO YOUR POINT ABOUT ANSWERING TO THE COUNCIL, BUT WORKS WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL COORDINATION OF CITY.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO READ IT TO YOU SHALL PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES AS THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL ASSIGN TO HIM OR HER, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE GRAY SLOPE TO THEN CITY COUNCIL AND CITY THERE.
AND WE WANT TO GET RID OF SUCH ASSISTANCE AS THE CITY COUNCIL DEEMS AS POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, IF THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS AN ASSISTANT CITY SECRETARY, THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER JOB, JOB AND BUDGET DEAL WITH THAT ONE IS THAT THE COUNCIL ACTION.
SO THE ONLY OTHER THING I WILL ADD IS THAT THIS PROVISION IN YOUR CHARTER IS FROM 2007.
AND WHAT MAY BE OF NOTE IS THAT SINCE WE'VE BEEN CITY ATTORNEY, THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, 1, 2, 3, 4 PEOPLE ACTING AS CITY SECRETARY.
ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WAS ACTING AS CITY SECRETARY WAS THE CITY MANAGER.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPED YOU OR NOT, BUT CERTAINLY HISTORICALLY WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AT LEAST SINCE 2017.
WELL, SO IN PART OF THAT SUB PARAGRAPH TALKS ABOUT ASSISTANT CAN, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S COUNCIL BUDGET AND ALL THE OTHER.
I MEAN, THEY APPROVE THE BUDGET
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AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BUDGET IF YOU'RE GOING INTO.SO THE PARAGRAPH COULD READ THE CITY MANAGER, SHALLOW PORN, A COMPETENT PERSON IS CITY SECRETARY PERIOD.
THE CITY SECRETARY SHALL PERFORM SUCH DUTIES AS THE CITY MANAGER, SELLERS, CITY MANAGERS, STRAIL ASSIGNED TO HIM OR HER GET RID OF ELSEWHERE IN THE CHARTER AND LAWS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, SOME ARE, AND AS PROVIDED BY COUNCIL OR
I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE WORDS, BECAUSE THAT'S SAYING, THAT'S SAYING THAT'S A DESIGNATED ROLE, WHICH I DEFINITELY NEED, WE WANT IT SEEN, DONE EVERYWHERE, BUT IT'S NOT A IT'S SOC READING THAT, UM, WE TELL YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, JUST MAKING THIS UP.
IT TELLS, SO YOUR SECRETARY, HEY, I WANT YOU TO TRACK ALL FINANCIALS FOR X, Y, AND Z.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT IN THE SCOPE OF THEIR, THEIR HIGHER RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND THAT WOULD BE AGAIN, YOU COULD PUT A SENTENCE IN THERE AND YOU KNOW THAT ON THERE, LIKE IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER, MEANING THEY CAN DIRECT STUFF, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY SO THAT I HAVE A BETTER WAY TO DO IT.
OR AGAIN, I KNOW THAT TASK IS COMING RIGHT.
SO IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, I HEAR A CONSENSUS ON THE CHAIN OF COMMAND THAT SECRETARY TO CITY MANAGER THAT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON.
I GUESS I JUST, I FEEL LIKE COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE CITY SECRETARY DO A LOT, SO I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, DUDE, I DON'T FEEL THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S AGAIN, I CAN LIKE, WELL THAT'S HER JOB, RIGHT.
A JOB, BUT SHE'LL DO STUFF LIKE, UH, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR MISSY, YOU KNOW, WE DID THE PROCLAMATION I HAD, I SAID, JASON, GET WITH FRANCIS SO WE CAN GET SOMETHING OUT FOR COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
AND THAT, THAT I THINK IS APPROPRIATE COORDINATION BETWEEN OKAY.
SO IF THERE'S NOT A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY SECRETARY AND THE MAYOR WHO IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL KIND OF MAJOR STOP GAP ACTIVITY.
OH, I MEAN THE CITY MANAGER SIGNAGE STUFF TOO.
BUT I MEAN ALL THE ORDINANCES AND STUFF.
NO, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF, I MEAN, AGAIN, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF COUNCIL DIRECTING, I'M TALKING IN HER ABSENCE, BUT I'M DIRECTING HER TO DO STUFF THAT'S OUT OF THE NORMAL SCOPE OF SO SECRETARY'S EMPLOYMENT.
I THINK WE COULD SUM THAT UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED AS REQUIRED.
SO BASICALLY SHE'S, UM, PERFORM SUCH DUTIES AS A CITY MANAGER SELLER SIDE AND AS REQUIRED BY CITY COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL.
AND REMEMBER THIS IS GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL TOO.
THEY MAY HAVE AN OPINION NOT TO READ IT, BUT I KNOW NEXT IS LIKE THE CITY TREASURER.
SO I GUESS SHOULDN'T WORK VERY SIMILAR BETWEEN THE CITY SECRETARY OF TREASURER, AS FAR AS LIKE THE APPROVALS AND ALL THAT.
CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S COMING UP NEXT.
SMALL TOWNS, THE CITY SECRETARY WAS THE CITY DRESSER.
SO LARGE CITIES, YOU HAVE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
UH, IT'S JUST HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS DO YOU WANT TO CALL OUT IN YOUR CHARTER CITY? SECRETARY? I COULD SEE THAT BECAUSE THEY PREPARE THE AGENDAS AND MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL, POLICE, CHIEF, OUR CHIEF OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS, FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THAT'S BASIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE CITY ATTORNEY THAT'S SELF PRESERVATION WITH ME.
AND THEN, UH, THAT WAS A JOB THAT OTHER THAN THAT DON'T CALL OUT A DEPARTMENT IN YOUR CONSTITUTION.
SO IN MY PREVIOUS CITY, POPE QUIRKS WAS A BIG DEAL.
MY HIRED PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
AGAIN, I BROUGHT UP COUNCIL IN THAT PROCESS, NOT THE WHOLE COUNCIL, BUT I HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE PUBLIC WORKS OR INVOLVE THEM IN THAT PROCESS.
AND THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I KEPT THEM IN THAT, BUT I NEVER, NEVER WENT TO COUNCIL FOR HIRING.
I JUST TOLD THEM LIKE, HEY, WE INTERVIEWED WHATEVER.
AND GRANTED WHAT WE'RE DOING WAS LIKE STRIKING APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL AND SUCH.
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MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CITY COUNCIL DON'T LOOK OVER THIS.SO THAT MAY SEEM MORE SAYS THEY'RE STRIKING US FROM APPROVING THIS.
THEY MAY JUST GO IN AND SAY, AW, NAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE KEEP APPROVAL CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
SO I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT, HOW THAT'S GOING TO PAN OUT.
WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT STRIKING US OUT.
YOU GUYS JUST HAVE TO DO YOUR JOB AND THEN THEY DO THEIRS.
I CAN TELL YOU AGAIN WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, HIRING FINANCE DIRECTOR, THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE TRUST YOU, YOU, THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE PERSON WHO WORKED FOR YOU AGAIN.
I BROUGHT IT TO THEM AS A, YOU KNOW, PERCY TO SAY, THIS IS HOW THE PROCESS WENT IS THAT MANY CANDIDATES WHO HAD JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T LIKE AS LONG AS WE, AS LONG AS WE KEEP A CONSISTENT COMMAND STRUCTURE.
SO WE HAVE JUST FOR CONSISTENCY, THE DEPARTMENT OF PALAIS, OR WE'RE JUST GONNA 7 47 40 SCOTT MYERS.
CHIEF TO BE REMOVED REQUIRES THE CITY MANAGER WITH THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL.
THE CITY SECRETARY IS SOLID AS TO HIS OR HER REMAINING TO BE POINTED.
I SAID BEFORE YOU GOT HEALTH SAFETY, WELFARE CITY MANAGER, CITY, SECRETARY, AND CITY ATTORNEY.
AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL YOU NEED TO CALL OUT IN THE CHART NOW GETTING THE VOTERS TO VOTE ON THAT.
SO WHY AREN'T YOU GETTING RID OF THE CITY TREASURER? JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT SIMPLE.
THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S A FINANCE DEPARTMENT THAT SHOULD BE IN OUR CHART THAT THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER'S RESPONSIBILITY, RIGHT? WHAT'S YOUR YOU'RE RIGHT.
GETTING THE PEOPLE TO VOTE BECAUSE WHEN THEY SAY TREASURY MONEY, THEY'RE TAKING TREASURY AWAY.
WHY? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE VOTERS GOT OR WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT, PAMPHLET, WHATEVER COMES IN.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE MAKING THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, UH, REDUNDANCY.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A DEPARTMENT THAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THIS.
IT'S JUST THAT WE DON'T NEED A 41 PAGE CHARTER TO ACTUALLY CALL THEM CITY TREASURE.
OR YOU SAID SOMETHING DIFFERENT FINANCE DIRECTOR, FINANCE DIRECTORS.
SO THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T EVEN FIT IT'S IT'S ABOUT FINANCE, NOT JUST TREASURER, KATHY MY OKAY.
CAUSE WE STILL HAVE A STATE COMPTROLLER AND WE HAVE A STATE TREASURER AND THEY'VE JUST ACTUALLY RUN THE BANK.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN CITY AND COUNTY, THE CITY ACCOUNTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IN CITY TREASURER, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE JUST TOTALLY TWO DIFFERENT, NOTHING SIMILAR.
CAUSE WHEN YOU SAID FINANCE DIRECTOR.
SO THAT TO ME, THAT SOMEONE THAT DOES FORECASTING AND BUDGET ANALYSIS WHERE TREASURE REALLY IS SOMEONE THAT COUNTS MINE AND DOWN LATER ON EVER TALK ABOUT ACCOUNTING AS WELL.
AND THE OTHER POINT TO THAT TOO, UM, TREASURER IS SAYS, AND SOCIAL ASSISTANCE IS THAT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD DEEM ADVISABLE.
I MEAN, WHY IS THE COUNCIL FIGURING OUT WHO WE'VE GOT TO HIRE TO GET THE JOB DONE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY? I'LL JUST DRAG.
I'VE STRUCK IT OUT, RIGHT? I MEAN THE VOTERS, EACH AD EACH DISTINCT ITEM BACK 4 0 4 IS A SEPARATE VOTE.
SO THE VOTERS MIGHT SAY, NO, WE WON'T CHARGE HER.
CORPORATION COURT IS ALSO KNOWN AS MUNI COURT OR MUNICIPAL COURT.
UH, IT'S ESTABLISHED BY LAW AND THE STATE LAW SAYS YOU ESTABLISH IT BY ORDINANCE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN HAVE IT IN THE CHARTER, IF YOU WON'T,
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YOU KNOW, THEY GOT INTO CLARKS AND DEPUTY CLERKS AND COUNCIL APPOINTED THEM.NOW THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE USUALLY PROVIDES THE COURT CLERK.
UH, UH, Y'ALL TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT.
YOU WANT TO CALL IT OUT IN THE CHARTER? TO ME, IT GOES, I THINK OF IT IN LINE WITH KIND OF THE LAW AND ORDER KIND OF LIKE CALLING OUT THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, COLLECT THE US CONSTITUTION.
CHRIS IS THE EXECUTIVE AND UM, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE KIND OF, AND TO ME, IT'S GOT, YOU'VE GOT THOSE NICE WHATEVER.
UM, I LIKE WHAT YOU STRUCK OUT.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS, UM, BASED ON MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, HAVING ACTED AS A TEMPORARY JUDGE, I WOULD RENAME IT BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT A TEMPORARY POSITION.
THAT WAS AN EVERY DAY AND EVERY OTHER WEEKEND VISITATION, UM, ASSOCIATED, UH, ALTERNATE, UH, I MEAN THAT IS A, THAT IS AN ONGOING OBLIGATION.
SO ASSOCIATES, I WOULD SAY ASSOCIATE, I MEAN SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, I MEAN, TEMPORARY DOESN'T DESCRIBE THE JOB.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR, SO DO YOU, SO DO YOU HAVE, WHAT, WHAT IS THE SETUP? WHAT'S THE STRUCTURE, IF, UM, BOTH THE REGULAR JUDGE AND THE ASSOCIATE JUDGE ARE UNAVAILABLE.
DO YOU HAVE A TEMPORARY, THEN YOU USUALLY HAVE THE MAYOR DO THE MAGISTRATION OR COUNCIL CAN APPOINT A TEMPORARY JUDGE FOR LIKE THE TWO WEEKS THAT BOTH WELL MAY ARE DOING MAGISTRATION, THAT'S STATE LAW.
BUT I'M JUST, I MEAN, THE MAYOR WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME IN AND BE JUDGED OVER COURT.
SO, SO THOSE CASES EITHER WOULD GET BIG KITCHEN.
SO D SHOULD PROBABLY STAY, BUT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING ABOUT AN ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE IN THAT CASE, IF BOTH THE FARMER AND THE ALTERNATE AND WHATEVER OUR OUT-OF-POCKET, THEN COUNCIL CAN SAY TO A DUALLY LICENSED ATTORNEY, HEY, FOR X NUMBER OF DOLLARS, WE NEED YOU TO, DO YOU HAVE IT? DO YOU HAVE AN ASSOCIATE JUDGE WORKING WITH JEFF GILBERT NOW? YES.
BUT THEY'RE NOT CALLED THE ASSOCIATE.
SO WE NEED, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT JEFF GILBERT, WE'VE GOT MARK JONES, RIGHT? YEAH.
THEY COULD COUNSELOR COULD SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOT A TEMPORARY JOB.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GETTING RID OF E KEEP OR GET RID OF IT? I THINK HE IS WRITTEN A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE DEPUTY CLERKS WORKING SORT OF THE WORLD, THE CITY MANAGER.
I MEAN, I THINK THE COURT DOES WRITE REPORT POINTED BY THE COUNCIL, BUT YOU KNOW, COORDINATION OR WHATEVER REPORTS TO THE CITY MANAGER.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE DEPUTY CLERK BECAUSE THEY WORK FOR THE COURT.
AND IS THAT CLARK I DEPARTMENT HEAD OR DIRECTOR GO BACK TO MY LITTLE CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID WE CALL IT? BUT WE'RE SAYING EMPLOYEE, THEN THEY ALL FALL OFF.
THIS ONE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS IS SO I WOULD SAY, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO THE FIRST PART OF THE AUGUST.
SO REMOVE ANY MUNICIPAL JUDGE IN HARRIS COUNTY BEFORE THEIR TERM.
AND IT WAS NASTY, IT WAS UGLY.
AND HE CLAIMED SEPARATION OF POWERS DOCTRINE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL COULDN'T REMOVE A JUDGE THAT WAS APPOINTED FOR TWO YEARS.
I DID THE RESEARCH ON IT AT A MILLION YEARS AGO AND HE WAS WRONG.
I MEAN, THERE DOES COME A POINT WHERE YOU DO HAVE THOSE SEPARATION OF POWER DOCTRINE,
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BUT NOT AT THE CORPORATION COURT LEVEL.UM, I WOULD NOT WANT ANY CITY TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.
AND THIS WAS JUST AN OLD JUDGE THAT WE HAD AN ASSOCIATE JUDGE AND HE'S SITTING THERE TWIDDLING HIS FINGERS AND WE HAD CASES PILING UP AND THEY WOULDN'T, THE MAYOR SAID, SHARE YOUR DOCKET AND LET'S GET ALL THESE MOVING.
AND SO HE WASN'T, SO YOU'RE SAYING KP PART FIRST PART OF THE, I WOULD SAY, HAVE YOU READ JUDGE ASSOCIATE JUDGE AND TEMPORARY JUDGES SHALL SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL? YEAH.
BUT THAT WAY, IF COUNCIL NEEDS TO GET RID OF SOMEONE, THEY CAN, AND IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S COUNCIL, THAT MAKES THAT DECISION.
SO THAT'S COUNCIL, THAT'S PUTTING THEM IN.
SO AGAIN, HAVING THOUGHT OF THIS, IS IT, DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HIRING AND FIRING FOR THE COURT? NOPE.
IT SAYS BY THE CITY MANAGER GROUP.
SO IT MIGHT NEED TO SAY APPOINTED OR DISAPPOINTED.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A CHARTER ADDRESS.
I MEAN THE CLERKS, IT'S JUST EITHER THE CITY MANAGER OR THE JUDGES.
WELL THEN MAYBE IT'S ENOUGH TO KEEP THE JUDGE STUFFING ASSOCIATED WITH THE SAW YEAH.
BECAUSE TO ME, THEY FUNCTION AS THEIR EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE CITY EMPLOYEES, THEY FALL UNDER HIERARCHY.
WHEREAS THE JUDGE KIND OF SEPARATE THE JUDGE, THE ASSOCIATE JUDGE AND YOUR TEMPORARY JUDGES OUT THEY'RE HIRED AND, OR THEY'RE APPOINTED AND REMOVED AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
SO IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING HE SHOULD READ THE JUDGE ASSOCIATE JUDGE, TEMPORARY JUDGES SHALL SERVE AT THE WILL OF CITY COUNCIL, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO Y'ALL HAD AN IN-HOUSE CITY COUNCIL.
I HAVE AN EMPLOYEE NAMED MARY KAY.
AND SO I'LL ALWAYS HAVE TO STOP MYSELF BECAUSE SHE IS FORMER CITY ATTORNEY.
AND THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER AT HER SUGGESTION CONTACTED US AND CAME DOWN AND KIND OF INTERVIEWED.
AND THEN HE MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO COUNCIL AND ALL OF A SUDDEN RLO RAN.
THE LAW OFFICE WAS INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY OR TEMPORARY CITY ATTORNEY.
AND THAT'S HOW I SIGNED DOCUMENTS UNTIL ONE DAY I GOT A CALL AND HE SAID, WELL, JUST STOP PUTTING TEMPORARY.
AND SO IT'S JUST LUMBERED ALONG AS THAT SINCE THEN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE EVER OFFICIALLY.
I DON'T KNOW
YOU WOULD PROBABLY KNOW IT'S A JOB FOR THE SECRET POLICE INVESTIGATE, INVESTIGATE, OR A SPECIAL POLICE ALREADY, NOT SECRET, BUT THEY ARE SECRET SINCE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
VERY UNUSUAL HOW ONE CITY WENT FROM IN-HOUSE TO OUTHOUSE OR CONTRACT ATTORNEY, AND THEN WE'VE BEEN HERE EVER SINCE.
AND OF COURSE WE LOVE DOING THE JOB, BUT IT WASN'T THE NORMAL WAY OF GETTING HERE.
NOW THE CITY ATTORNEY MUCH LOCKED THE CITY.
MANAGER'S THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, UM, ENFORCING POLICY OF CITY COUNCIL, WHICH COULD BE UNPOPULAR VERY UNPOPULAR AT TIMES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING AFTER SOMEBODY SACRED GAL SO MUCH LIKE THE CITY MANAGER, UH, THIS IS NOT A SELF PRESERVATION CITY ATTORNEY SHOULD BE APPOINTED AND REMOVED BY SUPER MAJORITY.
SO THE CLICKS, YOU DON'T GET A SWING ELECTION, BUT YOU GET A CLICK IN HERE AND LET'S CLEAN HOUSE AND GET RID OF ALL THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.
WE'LL FIRE THE MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY SECRETARY OR WHOEVER.
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IN THERE THAT SHE SHALL APPOINT OR REMOVE OR AN REMOVED BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE, A COMPETENT BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.UM, THERE WAS ALSO, UH, HE, HE, THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED IS BRIGHT CUT WAS COMPETENT AND DUALLY LICENSED, UNDERLINED AND BOLDED.
I DO NOT, IS THAT QUESTIONING YOUR ROLE?
SO, UH, YEAH, THAT LOOKS GOOD.
I'M WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, BUT JUST HAVING CAUSED THIS, IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY AS, AS, AS, AS, AS RED LINE THEN? YEAH.
INCLUDING THE SUPER MAJORITY LANGUAGE.
AND WE CAN FINISH ARTICLE FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
WHAT ABOUT RESERVES? I MEAN, 4 0 7.
CAN WE GET THAT OUT AND READ NUMBERS? IT HAPPENED PROBABLY BECAUSE OF NINI CODE.
UH, IF THEY, IF THEY HAD THE CHARTER AMENDMENT AND THEN THEY GO TO OUR COMPANY THAT PUBLISHES, THEY PROBABLY, THEY DID THAT.
DID THAT, SO THAT, SO CAN WE CLEAN THAT UP? CAN WE DELETE THAT? AND RENUMBER, SO FAR DEPARTMENT CAN PASS A PROVISION THAT SAYS NON-SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES CAN BE MADE BY A VOTE OF COUNCIL.
SO WE DID COUNTS, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION ON IT.
UH, SO THIS IS COUNCIL CAN ABOLISH OR CONSOLIDATE OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'VE HAD RECENTLY ON THIS AND ANOTHER I'LL NAME CITY BECAUSE COUNCIL DIDN'T LOCK HR REPORTING TO SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE CITY MANAGER.
AND THAT WAS COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE TO ESTABLISH THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
I CAN'T TELL THE HR DIRECTOR WHAT TO DO, BUT THEY CAN ESTABLISH A REPORTING REQUIREMENT.
SO, UH, IT GETS INTO THE LITTLE BUSINESS OF A MAJOR BUSINESS, WHAT BUSINESS OF CITY MANAGER BUSINESS.
SO THE NOTE, THE LITTLE YELLOW NOTE I HAD, THERE IS AN ADDITION OF DIRECTION BY CITY MANAGER, ALL DEPARTMENTS, OFFICES, AND AGENCIES UNDER DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION OF SEEDING MANAGER SHALL BE ADMINISTERED BY AN EMPLOYEE OF POINTED BY AND SUBJECT TO THE DIRECTION SUPERVISION OF THE STATE OF MANAGER.
IN OTHER WORDS, COUNCIL DON'T MESS WITH THE EMPLOYEES.
THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER'S JOB AND HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE AND HIS FEET TO THE FIRE.
AND IF YOU GOT AN EMPLOYEE MESSING UP AND HE'S NOT TAKING CARE OF IT, THEN HE'S AT RISK.
SO THE LATE, ALL THE OTHER STUFF ABOUT A CONTRACT WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY FOR ALL THAT, AND JUST SAY THAT YOU MAY ESTABLISH THEM AND THEN PUT ANOTHER PROHIBITION IN THERE ABOUT INTERFERENCE.
WE FINISHED THREE MINUTES EARLY.
WE'LL TAKE, UH, WHAT ARTICLE FIVE NEXT SONG.
I WILL SEND YOU RED LINES, PROBABLY FIVE AND SIX.
WE'LL START, WE'LL FINISH FIVE AND WE'LL BEGIN ON SIX, SIX IS GOING TO BE A SLOW.
[4. Discussion and possible action on the Charter Review Commission meeting schedule.]
TO ITEM FOUR, UH, WHICH IS GOING TO BE OUR NEXT MEETINGS.UM, DO WE WANT TO STICK WITH FIRST AND THIRD? TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER SEVEN, 21ST.
I THINK, UH, LAST MEETING, UH, WAS, I WAS HERE, BUT I REALLY WASN'T HERE.
I WAS SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, MISCALCULATE THE DATES, BUT YEAH, I'LL BE HERE.
SO I'LL, WE'LL BE HERE IF YOUR MEDIA WAS JUST, OKAY.
SO YOU SAID THE SEVENTH AND SEPTEMBER 7TH
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AND SEPTEMBER 21ST.I WILL BE HERE ON THE SEVENTH, BUT UM, FULLY CONFIDENT IN YOUR, AND SINCE YOU'VE PASSED CITY MANAGER, WE EXPECT THAT PIZZA THOUGH.
I WILL NOT BE HERE ON THE 21ST, BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN.
I'LL BE HERE FLYING SOLO OR SHE MAY GET HER.
I MAY BRING US A EXTRA SET OF HANDS.
SO WE'LL COME BACK SEPTEMBER 7TH AND 21ST AT 6:00 PM.
AND AT 7 59, WE ARE ADJOURNED.