>> [BACKGROUND] WE'RE READY TO THE RIGHT? READY TO THE LEFT?
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
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>> WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
WELCOME TO OUR ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, REGULAR MEETING DATED FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 28TH, 2021, I HAVE SIX O'CLOCK ON THE IPHONE.
THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENCE, SO I'LL CALL THIS TO ORDER.
[NOISE] IF YOU'LL PLEASE STAY WITH US FOR OUR PLEDGE AND INVOCATION.
>> WILL YOU PLEASE BOW WITH ME PLEASE.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY, WE THANK YOU THAT WE CAN CALL ON YOU, THAT YOU LOVE US THAT YOU CARE ABOUT US.
FATHER WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OVER US DURING THE STORM THAT CAME THROUGH.
LORD DEAR, YOU'RE GOOD, YOU HELPED US.
WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM EVERYWHERE TO GET BACK ON OUR FEET, AND JUST CONTINUE TO GUIDE US AND DIRECT US.
FATHER WE PRAY FOR THIS NIGHT AS WE GO ABOUT DOING YOUR BUSINESS.
THE BUSINESS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US IN HELPING LEAD THIS CITY.
LORD WE LOVE YOU, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS,
[CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL]
GIVE US YOUR WISDOM IN CHRIST NAME WE PRAY. AMEN.>> ALL RIGHT MOVING ALONG INTO OUR AGENDA ITEM, WE HAVE CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
I HAVE THREE SLIPS HERE, ONE IS NOT ON A TOPIC ITEM FOR AGENDA ITEM, TWO SPEAKERS ARE FOR ITEM NUMBER 11, SO I'LL CALL THEM UP WHEN THAT ITEM COMES TO THE TABLE.
OUR FIRST ONE IS MR. PATTON RITTER, PLEASE THE PODIUM IS YOURS.
>> WELL, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL, PATTON RITTER, 305 SOUTH WALKER STREET.
I'LL BE QUICK, I'VE TOLD A COUPLE OF YOU ALL THROUGHOUT THE LAST TWO WEEKS THAT I'VE SEEN YOU AS THE SOLE PERSON THAT WAS HERE FOR THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, YOU ALL DID A FANTASTIC JOB.
IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT SOMEBODY GETS TO STAND HERE AND SAY THEY'RE HAPPY WITH SEEING HOW THE TAX DOLLARS ARE SPENT, BUT YOU'VE ALL DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH THAT.
I KNOW YOU ALL HAD A LOT, STAFF DID A LOT TOO.
BUT SEEING HERE LOOKING AT THAT RESPONSE, THAT THE NIGHT AFTER THAT STORM, EVERYBODY WAS HERE.
THEY WENT THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, WHERE WE WERE AT, AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.
THAT WAS A PHENOMENAL RESPONSE.
I APPRECIATE IT AND I KNOW YOU ALL DON'T HEAR THAT ENOUGH, SO THANK YOU ALL.
[CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS]
>> THANK YOU, MR. RITTER. THAT COMPLETES OUR CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.
WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.
WE DO HAVE TWO, THE FIRST ONE IS PRESENTATION OF DONATIONS TO ACTIONS INC OF BRAZORIA COUNTY.
IS THERE SOMEBODY HERE FROM ACTIONS? COME ON UP.
OH, HI THERE IS MR BREAH COME ON UP.
>> WE GOT SWINGING GATES WE CAN GET OUT EASY [NOISE].
I HAVE A CHECK TO PRESENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL COME ACROSS WHILE THE COUNCIL STAY BACK HERE TO KEEP OUR [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE COUNCIL IS ON MY EXECUTIVE BOARD IF YOU DON'T MIND IF HE COMES ON UP.
>> PLEASE COME ON UP. [NOISE].
>> A FUN CHECK OR IS THAT A REAL CHECK? [LAUGHTER]. YOU WANT TO HOLD THAT.
YOU GIVE THE MIDDLE MS. REAVES, AND HERE'S THAT.
>> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO MR BREAH.
[APPLAUSE] IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, WE ALL NOW HAVE OUR KEEPING UPS AND BEAUTIFUL YARDS OF THE MONTH THOUGH? KB THE PODIUM IS YOURS.
>> OKAY, DR. MILTON BRIDGET, YOU ALL CAN COME UP HERE.
THIS VETERINARY MEDICAL CENTER UP THE GULF COASTAL 288 B.
ON BEHALF OF ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL, THIS IS ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF ALL OUR ARCHITECTS.
OVER HERE WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH THE COUNCIL, THEN WE'LL GET YOU FEEDBACK.
>> CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE].
>> THEN YOU ALL WILL FACE FORWARD, WE'LL STAY BEHIND YOU GUYS TO GET A PHOTO OFF.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL. [BACKGROUND] ONE MORE.
>> OKAY. THIS IS BHAD AND COLLIN BIKAM, THEY LIVE ON SAN FELIPE, AND I'LL MOVE [INAUDIBLE] PUT YOUR ADDRESS OUT THERE.
BUT ANYWAY, [LAUGHTER] WHEN SOMEBODY'S SUBMITTED FOR NOMINATING YARD OR THE MONTH, I DROVE BY AND I'M LIKE, BIKAM.
I CALLED ON BIKAM, AND WE WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER.
THANK YOU ALL, YOUR HOUSE IS WONDERFUL.
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YOUR YARD IS TAKING PRIDE, WE APPRECIATE IT.THANK YOU, ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US, THANK YOU.
>> JUST RIGHT THERE, THAT'S PERFECT AND WE WILL POSITION BEHIND YOU GUYS.
>> ALL RIGHT, GOT IT, THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU GUYS [BACKGROUND].
>> THANK YOU ALL. [BACKGROUND].
>> YOU ALL CAN STAY IF YOU LIKE. [LAUGHTER].
>> WE ARE GOING TO WATCH AND LAUGH.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
>> LET'S FACE IT THEY NEVER STAY.
>> WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, BEAR WITH ME AS I READ THE ITEMS LISTED.
NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO IMPROVE THE MINUTES.
REGULARLY CALLED MEETING OF AUGUST 10TH, 2021, SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF AUGUST 24TH, 2021, REGULAR CALLED MEETING OF AUGUST 24TH, 2021, AND THE EMERGENCY MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2021.
NUMBER 4, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210928-004, APPOINTING A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE BRAZORIA WATER AUTHORITY BOARD.
NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210928-005, EXTENDING THE DISASTER DECLARATION SIGNED BY THE MAYOR.
ON MARCH 17TH, 2020 THROUGH OCTOBER 13TH, 2021, REPAIRING CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS INCLUDING A SEPARABILITY CLAUSE AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORTS FOR THE JUNE 2021.
NUMBER 6, THE LIGHTING THREW ME OFF.
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 20210928-006, DECLARING PROPERTY SALVAGE OR SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZING THE DISPOSAL OF SALE OF CERTAIN ITEMS OF SURPLUS OR SALVAGE PROPERTY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
NUMBER 8, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON EACH LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY.
GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT FOR GATHERING DATA ON LAND, ELEVATIONS AND SUBSIDENCE AND JOINT INSTALLATIONS, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PAM STATIONS.
NUMBER 9, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ANY OF GOVERNOR ABBOT'S LATEST EXECUTIVE ORDERS, BRAZORIA'S COUNTY'S EMERGENCY DECLARATION AND IMPACTS OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, AND HOW TO PROCEED WITH CITY BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE.
LASTLY, NUMBER 10, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 2021 ACTIONS USE AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT, COUNCIL.
>> MR. MAYOR I'M MOVING TO ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.
[11. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210928-011 rezoning 2.669 acres from Article III Zoning Districts Section 28-57 C-G - Commercial-General District to Article III Zoning Districts Section 28-46 SF-6.3 - Single Family Residential 6.3 District of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Angleton, Texas; providing a severability clause; providing for a penalty; and providing for repeal and an effective date.]
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS NUMBER 11, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210928-011, REZONING 2.669 ACRES FROM ARTICLE 3 ZONING DISTRICT, SECTION 28-57, CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT 2 ARTICLE 3 ZONING DISTRICT SECTION 28-46SF6.3 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, 6.3 DISTRICT OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, PROVIDING A SEPARABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING A PENALTY, AND PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MISS LINDSEY.
>>GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE A PORTION OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THIS REQUEST IS FROM DEVELOPER COREY BOYER, WHO IS REPRESENTED BY ATTICA CONSULTING, AND THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 2.7 ACRES AND IT IS BASICALLY TO REZONE IT, SO IT'S ONE CONSISTENT ZONING DISTRICT, SO THAT ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY CAN ALL BE A RESIDENTIALLY ZONED AREA.
NOW, OF COURSE, THAT ACTUALLY TURNED SIDEWAYS, YOU CAN IMAGINE TILTING IT UP 90 DEGREES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THE PANHANDLE ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY, ADJOINED TO WEST MULBERRY.
[NOISE] THEN THE OTHER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS ON TOP, UP THERE.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> OKAY. WELL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND FIRST GET INTO A PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCIL.
>> WE ALL MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES.
NOW WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING, I DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SO IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE PRESENTED PLUS WELL, LET LADIES GO FIRST MISS SHAEFER, THE PODIUM IS YOURS.
>> I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON FOR AND AGAINST.
I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ZONING, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PUT HOUSES RIGHT NEXT TO THE TOWER SITE THAT'S ON THE BACKSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF HIS YELLOW AREA, OUR DRIVEWAY COMES UP ON OUR SOUTH SIDE AND THE TOWER SITE IS AT THAT CORNER.
HE WANTS TO PUT HOUSES AROUND THAT TOWER SITE.
BEING A TOWER OWNER SINCE 1989, THINGS COME OFF THE TOWERS.
THINGS FALL, THEY DROP SCREWDRIVERS, THEY DROP BRANCHES, THEY DROP BOLTS.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A CHILD IN THE BACKYARD AND SOMETHING HITTING THE CHILD AND HURTING THEM.
WHERE I'M STANDING, THE CG VERSUS THE RESIDENTIAL, I UNDERSTAND WHY IT NEEDS TO ALL BE ONE GROUP.
BUT YOUR TOWER ORDINATES EVEN SAYS THAT HOUSES AND TOWERS SHOULD BE 200 FEET OR 300 PERCENT, THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.
THERE'S A REASON BEHIND THAT, AND IT'S A SAFETY REASON.
WITH THAT, MY EXPERIENCE'S DON'T PUT A HOUSE BY THAT TOWER, ANY TOWER, DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S IN MY BACKYARD OR IT'S IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S BACKYARD.
IN THAT PROPERTY, IF HE'D EVER DEVELOPED THE PROPERTY ON WEST MULBERRY, SOUTH OF THAT YELLOW BOX, THERE'S ANOTHER TOWER ON THAT CORNER, WHICH IS THE T-MOBILE TOWER.
THAT WOULD PUT TWO TOWERS NEXT TO THAT PROPERTY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT UP WE HAVE A CITIZEN WISHING TO SPEAK, MR. SCHAFER, THE PODIUM IS YOURS.
>> HOPING WE WON'T GET HIT BY LIGHTNING HERE, HOPEFULLY [LAUGHTER].
I'M JUST FOLLOWING UP WHAT SHE SAID.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS, THE TOWER ORDINANCE EXISTED NOW TALKS ABOUT NEW TOWER DEVELOPMENT, NOT ABOUT EXISTING TOWERS.
THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE OR AMENDED TO PUT IN THE CLEAR FALL ZONE AND THE THINGS THAT HAD BEEN DONE IN HOUSTON AND OTHER AREAS SO THAT YOU HAVE PROTECTION AND SO THAT YOU COMPLY WITH THE OSHA REGULATIONS CURRENTLY ENFORCED, AS WELL AS HOMELAND SECURITY CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES, THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE PUT TOGETHER, AND IT'S NOT OBJECTIONABLE, BUT WHEN DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A NEW AMENDMENT TRIO ORDINATES.
I WAS WORKING ON THAT WITH YOUR FORWARD CITY MANAGER, BUT AS WE WELL KNOW, THINGS CHANGED AND SO WE DIDN'T GET THAT FINISHED.
BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU, WE JUST NEED TO WORK ON THIS SO THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFE. THANK YOU.
WE ARE STILL IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYBODY HERE WANT TO SPEAK ON, FOR, OR AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 11.
YOU CAN COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM, SIR.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS COREY BOYER, AM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON HERE BUT THE MOST CRITICAL PIECE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST CONJOINING THE TWO PIECES.
THE LARGE SECTIONS ALREADY ZONED RESIDENTIAL, 6.3.
ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY IS TO CONTINUE ON WITH THIS SECTION BEING 6.3.
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WE HAVE NOT COMPLETELY SUBMITTED OUR PRELIMINARY PLAN, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, PLANNING AND ZONING ON SO THAT WE DO TAKE PRIDE IN SAFETY [NOISE] OF EVERYBODY HERE IN ANGLETON AS WELL AS THE FUTURE CITIZENS THAT WILL RESIDE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.TODAY THE IMPORTANT PART IS FOCUSING ON, THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT THIS SMALL SECTION BEING CONTIGUOUS WITH THE REST AS A RESIDENTIAL 6.3 ZONE.
>> I'M SURE THERE'LL BE QUESTIONS, BUT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PART, WE CAN'T ENGAGE.
WE'LL PROBABLY ENGAGE ONCE WE GET OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON, FOR, OR AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 11? GOING ONCE, TWICE, CANCELED.
>> MAY I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEMPORE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THAT MOTION CARRIES, WE'RE NOW OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE TO THE PART OF DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION BY COUNCIL.
>> WHAT'S THE PROPERTY WIDTH OF THAT PANHANDLE GOING DOWN?
>> CURRY, CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT ONE? [BACKGROUND]
>> IT'S FIXED. THE PLAID CALL FOR 360 FEET WIDE.
IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR A [INAUDIBLE].
>> MY ISSUE HERE AND I APPRECIATE THE SCHAFER IS COMING OUT TONIGHT AND IN YOUR COMMENTS, BUT WE'RE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU SAID.
YOU SAID I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ZONING AS MUCH AS I AM ABOUT SAFETY AND HOW IT'S DEVELOPED AND I'M MORE OF THE ZONING OF IT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S BEFORE US.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S A 60 FOOT LOT, BUT MY ONLY CONCERN IS WE HAVE A STOPLIGHT AT SOUTH WALKER.
I CAN'T COUNT HOW MANY INCHES WE HAVE RIGHT THERE ON EAST MULBERRY.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S ALREADY CONGESTED ENOUGH RIGHT THERE.
I SEE PEOPLE BLOWING THROUGH THAT LIGHT AT SOUTH WALKER.
OUR POLICE PATROL THAT AREA NON-STOP AND I THINK EVERY DAY THEY CATCH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE SPEED INTO THEM.
WE HAVE A SCHOOL ZONE, LOT OF THINGS THERE.
MY CONCERN IS REALLY REZONING AND PUTTING MORE HOUSES ON ANOTHER SUBDIVISION ACCESSING OFF OF 35. THAT'S MY ISSUE.
>> THAT'S A VERY VALID CONCERN.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ILLUSTRATE THAT TEXT DOT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PERMITTING THAT DRIVE BECAUSE THAT IS A TEXT DOT ROADWAY.
>> WE HAVE ALREADY COMMUNICATED TO THE DEVELOPER THAT HE'LL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO POINTS OF EGRESS INTO THAT SUBDIVISION.
I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHERE THE SECONDARY ONE IS, THERE'S A COUPLE OPTIONS AS I UNDERSTAND.
AS HE STATED EARLIER, THEY HAVE NOT DONE THEIR PRELIMINARY REPLAD RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE STILL IN THE [NOISE] PHASE OF THAT.
YOU CAN SEE JUST TEXT DOT PERMITTING ON BUSINESS 2DA WITH ALL THE INTERESTS AND NOW WE HAVE MEDIUMS UP BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE ISSUES.
THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN WITH PUTTING ANOTHER ENTRANCE TO A SUBDIVISION RIGHT THERE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
>> WILL THE [INAUDIBLE] AT MULBERRY BE USING AN ALREADY EXISTING ONE?
>> NO, SIR. I BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE TO CUT THAT.
>> IF YOU HAVE AN ANSWER, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM SO WE CAN HAVE YOU ON THE MICROPHONE.
>> CURRENTLY, IF YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA WHERE THE GUY THAT'S SELLING WOOD, THERE'S ALREADY AN ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE INTO THAT AREA.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MOVING HIS SHOP OUT OF THE WAY, BUT MAINTAINING THAT SAME ENTRANCE FROM WHERE IT IS.
OUR OTHER POINT OF EGRESS IS GOING TO BE ALPHA WALKER.
QUITE HONESTLY, WITH WOULD YOU SAY,
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THE UNIQUE SHAPE OF THIS PARTICULAR TRACK, WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF HOUSES OUT OF THIS.I KNOW TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS A CONCERN.
IT'S RELATIVELY SPLIT THE WAY THAT OUR INITIAL DESIGN IS BETWEEN HOUSES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACK AND HOUSES ON THE SOUTH.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF ONE PARTICULAR POINT OF EGRESS VERSUS THE OTHER.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE RELATIVELY BALANCED.
>> ANY HOUSES ALONG THAT ENTRANCE? JUST PUT IT ON RECORD.
>> RIGHT NOW, WITH WHERE WE'RE AT, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WIDTH BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR 60 FOOT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE RECESSED BACK UNTIL YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'VE GOT OUR 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY UNTIL THAT WIDENS OUT.
THERE'S NOTHING GOING TO BE JUST RIGHT THERE UP AGAINST MULBERRY AT ALL.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
THE CONCERNS BROUGHT FORTH BY THE SCHAEFERS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT?
>> SAFETY CONCERNS ARE ALWAYS VALID.
>> DO WE HAVE THE MECHANISM TO HANDLE THAT?
>> WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY'S LEGAL COUNSEL CONCERNING OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH IS NOT APPLICABLE TO EXISTING TOWERS.
THAT IS FOR NEW TOWERS TO BE BUILT.
THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THE DEVELOPER CAN DO THIS.
ONE OF THE IDEAS I'VE HEARD IS A DETENTION POND BACK THERE, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE A SEPARATION THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
I DON'T KNOW. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I'M MISSING?
>> NO, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
TO ADD TO THAT, WHAT WE'RE SAYING BEFORE, SAFETY IS OUR CONCERN.
WE ARE CREATING A BUFFER BETWEEN ANY OF THESE CELL TOWERS, AT LEAST, WITH OUR INITIAL DESIGN.
AGAIN, PRELIMINARY PLAT HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED OR SUBMITTED.
BUT OUR DESIGN THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SPACING THERE WHERE THEY WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR DETENTION FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
>> BUT TRAVIS, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ON.
THE ORDINANCE FOR THE RE-ZONE IS COMPLETELY IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR CODE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
YES, THAT LEGAL REVIEW HAS BEEN DONE. YES.
>> IF IT WAS LEFT CG, COULD HE STILL BUILD A ROAD OF ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH THERE, AND JUST NOT USE THAT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> I'M SORRY. CAN YOU SAY THE QUESTION AGAIN?
>> IF IT'S LEFT AT CG, CAN HE STILL BUILD A ROAD TO ACCESS HIS PROPERTY THROUGH THERE?
>> I THINK HE NEEDS MOSTLY THAT RECTANGLE SHAPE.
>> THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TOO.
>> I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE DENY, CAN YOU STILL PUT ACCESS THROUGH THERE TO A SUBDIVISION?
>> IT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING [OVERLAPPING] THROUGH DEVELOPMENT.
>> I'M GOING TO LET WALT TAKE THAT ONE.
>> THE ZONING DOESN'T AFFECT THE ABILITY TO GAIN ACCESS OUT TO THE STREET.
CERTAINLY, THAT LITTLE PANHANDLE PORTION COULD BE LEFT IN CG, WITH THAT AREA BEHIND IT, WOULD HAVE TO BE RE-ZONED TO A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT HOUSES ON THAT PART OF THE GROUND.
BUT THE ROAD ITSELF IS NOT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES ANY PARTICULAR ZONING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
REALLY TECHNICALLY, YOU DON'T ZONE A ROAD, SO THAT BECOMES ACTUAL RIGHT OF WAY.
THEN IT REALLY ISN'T ZONED ANYMORE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
THERE REALLY WOULDN'T BE ZONING ON THE ROAD RIGHT OF WAY IN THAT PORTION.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. WALTER.
>> I'M JUST CONFUSED THOUGH, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT BCAD, AND I SEE OWNER NAMED MULBERRY FIELDS LLC ON THE TOP PORTION, BUT ON THE BOTTOM PORTION, I SEE MURRAY HILL.
THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE THE SAME OWNER ON BOTH OF THEM,
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BUT WE'RE TRYING TO RE-ZONE THEM TOGETHER.IT'S NOT WHAT I'M SEEING HERE.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, BUT IT ABSOLUTELY IS, PER OLIVER.
I MEAN, OUR PURCHASE DOCUMENTS, TITLE COMMITMENTS, AND SURVEYS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S NOT UPDATED PROPERLY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE.
>> YES, I'M MULBERRY FIELDS, AND WE ONLY BOUGHT THIS JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.
IT'S ALTOGETHER POSSIBLE THAT THAT SECTION WILL BE UPDATED IN THE NEAR FUTURE IN THE SHORT TERM.
>> HOW MANY HOUSES ARE YOU? BECAUSE I KNOW THE PART WE'RE TRYING TO RESURVEY IS THIS RECTANGLE AT THE TOP, BUT YOU OWN THE PROPERTY AT THE TOP OF THERE AS WELL.
>> I MEAN, WHAT WERE WE TALKING ON A SUBDIVISION SIDE?
>> DO YOU PLAN ON DOING ANY TWO PROPERTIES AT SOME POINT?
>> ARE YOU JOINING THEM TOGETHER TO DO ONE GREAT BIG SUBDIVISION?
>> I WOULDN'T CONSIDER IT A GREAT BIG SUBDIVISION.
WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 40 OR 45 HOUSES TOTAL.
THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THAT SECTION IS GOING TO BE FOR DETENTION.
AGAIN, WHENEVER WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE CONCERN OF THE CELL TOWER SITES, NOBODY WANTS A CELL TOWER IN THEIR BACKYARD.
WE FELT LIKE THAT WOULD BE NOT ONLY THE MOST ADEQUATE PART, BUT IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
>> JOHN, THE 13 ACRES ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING.
>> THIS IS A VERY GERRYMANDERED LOOKING THING HERE, [LAUGHTER] ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HIGHWAY 35.
NOW, THERE'S A RED LINE THROUGH THERE.
THE RED LINE ACTUALLY ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANTED TO CHANGE FROM CG TO C3.
>> THEY'RE NOT TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES.
IT'S ALL ONE PROPERTY, JUST THE ZONING LAND FOLLOWS THAT RED LINE THERE.
>> YEAH. I'M JUST LOOKING AT CONSISTENCY BETWEEN WHAT I SEE ON BCAD, AND WHAT I'M SEEING HERE. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.
>> BCAD [OVERLAPPING] IS NOT NECESSARILY UP-TO-DATE.
THEY CAN GET AS UP-TO-DATE AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN, BUT YEAH.
>> I THINK MY QUESTION WOULD BE AS WELL IS THE ENTRY POINT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE THOUGHT OF THIS, BUT WOULD WALKER BE YOUR MAIN ENTRANCE AND YOUR MULBERRY STRIP BE THE SECONDARY ENTRANCE.
IF IT SHOULD EVER GET TO THE POINT THAT WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS WITH SOME OTHER SET OF AGENTS WHERE THEY GATE, SO TO SPEAK, SO YOU CAN STILL KEEP IT TWO IN AND TWO OUT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MOVE OVER TO THE WALKER AND EXIT ENTRANCE AND LEAVE THAT HIGHWAY 35 AS AN EMERGENCY GATE IF YOU WILL.
UNLESS YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT MAKING IT VISIBLE, ATTRACTIVE TO SHOW INTEREST INTO THAT AREA, I GET IT AS WELL.
JUST LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR DOWN THE ROAD.
>> OBVIOUSLY, EVERYBODY KNOWS MULBERRY IS MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN WALKER.
I DON'T THINK I'M TELLING ANYBODY ANYTHING NEW OR SHOCKING.
AS FAR AS GETTING OFF ONE OR THE OTHER, WE HAVEN'T REALLY CONTEMPLATED EITHER ONE BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
WE DO FEEL LIKE TWO POINTS OF EGRESS IS THE BEST WAY FOR THE SUBDIVISION TO FUNCTION ADEQUATELY.
LIKE I SAID, MULBERRY IS MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN WALKER, SO I DOUBT THAT WE HAVE ANY INTENTION OF BLOCKING THAT OFF.
>> OKAY. JUST THROWING THE QUESTION OUT THERE. THANK YOU, SIR.
>> I WOULD THINK FOR THE VERY REASONS YOU STATED MR. JOHN, CAREFUL BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THE STATE COULD COME IN AND CREATE A [INAUDIBLE] AND NOT ALLOW YOU TO CROSS 35.
YOU COULD STILL ENTER IF YOU'RE, I GUESS, HEADING WEST OR EXITING TO THE WEST.
MAYBE SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND, BUT WE MAY NOT HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN AND THE STATE MAY END UP [LAUGHTER] DOING IT FOR US.
>> THEY WOULD DO WHAT THEY WANT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] CAN DO SOME ODD THINGS IF YOU OUGHT TO [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] ENGINEERS YOU GOT TO RUN THE TRAPS TO GET
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A DRIVEWAY OR STREET ENTRANCE THERE.LIKE LINDSEY SAID, THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF STATE HIGHWAY 35, AND THEY MIGHT HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF DRIVEWAYS OR STREETS.
THEY'VE COME UP WITH SOME RULES SOMETIME THAT YOU WONDER WHY?
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS COUNCIL? BEFORE US IS ASKING TO GO FROM A CG TO A SF6.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT.
>> LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS JUST ZONING.
THE PLANNING ISSUE OUGHT TO BE ADDRESSED AT A LATER TIME.
THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. I'M SORRY.
COUNCILMAN, I LOOKED RIGHT AT YOU, BUT I THOUGHT HIM.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
>> OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE SAID IT.
[LAUGHTER] I'M GOING TO TURN AROUND GUYS.
LITTLE SLEEP AND A LOT OF WORK.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[12. Discussion and possible action on the final replat of the Bayou Bend Estates Subdivision.]
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
>> ONE NAY, FIVE AYES, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
NOW WE'RE INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM; DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL REPLAT OF BAYOU BEND ESTATES SUBDIVISION. MR. WALTER.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS IS THE FINAL REPLAT OF THE BAYOU BEND ESTATES PROJECT.
PROPERTY CONSISTS OF ALMOST 16 ACRES IN THE SF6.3 ZONING DISTRICT, AND THERE WILL BE 36 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, AND THREE RESERVED LOTS.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH ELSE TO SAY ABOUT IT.
THERE'S A LIST OF COMMENTS FROM THE CITY ENGINEER THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED, BUT OTHER THAN THAT THE PROPOSED REPLAT OTHERWISE MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO ALL THOSE COMMENTS BEING CLEARED PRIOR TO RECORDING OF ANY FILE PLAN.
>> THIS WAS A PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL, SEVEN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
>> NO WORRIES. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SEVEN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, ZERO ABSENT.
>> COUNCIL. ITEM 12. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
>> I MOVE WE APPROVE THE PROPOSED FINAL REPLAT OF BAYOU BEND ESTATES SUBDIVISION, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION ALL COMMENTS ARE CLEARED PRIOR TO RECORDING THE FINAL REPLAT.
>> IT'S MOTION OF SECOND. WE CAN STILL DISCUSS.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT.
>> I KNOW THIS WAS ADDRESSED ONE TIME PREVIOUSLY.
I UNDERSTAND THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, I THINK THE DEVELOPER WAS HERE.
I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHO VISITED FOR THIS, BUT THERE'S AN UNNAMED ROAD ON THE SUBDIVISION DIRECTLY SOUTH.
>> LA LAJA. YES. THEN WE HAVE THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT FINISHES OUT THIS NEW PLAT.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S JUST MY OPINION, I FEEL LIKE EVERY TIME THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD CONNECTION IN THE CITY, THOSE OPTIONS SHOULD BE EXPLORED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S, I BELIEVE, A HEAVY DITCH THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT MOLINA SUBDIVISION.
>> TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE NEW PLAT, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE A COST FACTOR, BUT IT ALSO LINES UP PERFECTLY.
I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THIS IS JUST THE WAY WE DO THINGS IN ANGLETON AND THIS IS THE THAT IT ALWAYS WILL BE, BUT WE BUILD ALL THESE STUB ROADS OUT AND WE DON'T EVER CONNECT ANYTHING.
ANYWAY, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT INCLUDED.
>> WELL, I'VE BEEN MEANING TO ANSWER THAT.
THERE'S MORE THAN 30 HOMES ON THIS PROPERTY.
DOES IT REQUIRE A [INAUDIBLE]?
>> I THINK IT'S WIDE. THE BOULEVARD AT THE FRONT.
>> BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT [INAUDIBLE].
>> I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS.
>> STAFF DO Y'ALL REMEMBER SOME OF THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE UNNAMED ROUTE CROSSING INTO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY?
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>> I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION WITH THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT, BUT THIS IS THE SAME LOT CONFIGURATION AS THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT, SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND THAT YOU REALLY SHOULD BE CONNECTING STREETS WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF.
BUT AS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IN LOTS OF PLACES, THOSE CONNECTIONS DON'T ALWAYS GET MADE.
THERE'S BEEN TIMES WE WANTED THEM TO CONNECT, AND THE RESIDENT SPOKE AND IT DIDN'T CONNECT AND SOME DID.
NOW THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FIRST WE WANT IT TO CONNECT, AND THERE'S NOT THE OTHER SIDE COMING SAYING, "NO, WE DON'T WANT TO CONNECT."
>> NOBODY HAS SPOKEN FOR AGAINST IT AS FAR AS I'M AWARE.
>> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE GUY THAT'S DEVELOPING THIS DIDN'T WANT TO CONNECT IN THERE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON LA LAJA THAT I'VE TALKED TO DON'T WANT TO CONNECT TO IT AS WELL, PLUS THE ADDED COST OF THE DETENTION AND THE DITCH.
I WANT TO SAY JEFF YOU COULD PROBABLY KNOW THIS BETTER THAN I DO, IS THERE A DRAINAGE OR A SEWER LINE OR SOMETHING THAT GOES BACK BEHIND THERE? THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT MADE IT COST-PROHIBITIVE TO CONNECT THOSE AND WE JUST [INAUDIBLE].
>> I THINK IT WAS ALL THE DEBRIS, A LOT OF TREES DOWN THROUGH THERE, DOWN AT THE, WHATEVER THE NAME OF THE ROAD IS.
THAT'S WHY IT WOULD COSTS A LOT OF MONEY [INAUDIBLE] LA LAJA IS THE OTHER WAY DOWN TO THE NEXT STREET ON PAGE 4. THE OTHER WAY.
>> OH, YES. YOU TERM UP SEWER LINE THAT'S BETWEEN THEM?
>> YEAH, THE WATERLINE. I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT, I JUST FEEL LIKE NEITHER SIDE REALLY WANTS THIS CONNECTED AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WILL I KEEP THEM SEPARATE.
>> WELL, I GUESS MINE IS MORE OF A STATEMENT OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS SITUATION, BUT THE SITUATIONS CAN PRESENT SELF AGAIN, AND IN MY OPINION, THIS IS JUST ONE PERSON'S OPINION.
CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD CONNECTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP IN A DOG MEETING OR WHATEVER, OR MAYBE NOT.
MAYBE I'M JUST ONE PERSON, THE OTHER FIVE PEOPLE APPEAR TO DISAGREE AND THAT'S FINE.
I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES.
I DO THINK I SEE THESE SIMILAR STUBBED OUT STREETS THAT WILL PRESENT THEMSELVES AS FUTURE PROPERTIES IN THE CITY THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE CONNECTIONS, I THINK ACTUALLY A GOOD THING FOR CITY DEVELOPMENT, NOT A NEGATIVE THING.
I KNOW PEOPLE WHO COME ACCUSTOMED TO A CERTAIN LIFESTYLE OF QUIETNESS OR WHATEVER, I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN RESPECTING THOSE PEOPLE'S WISHES AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE, IT WAS A STUBBED-OUT STREET.
I BOUGHT ONE LIKE THAT IN PEARLAND AND EVENTUALLY, IT DEVELOPED OUT IN THE BACKSIDE OF IT.
SO YOU KNOW WHICH BIND TO. JUST THOUGHT.
WHEN THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MOBILITY, I WOULD DEFINITELY STRONGLY URGE THAT WE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND PUSH IT THROUGH.
I REALLY DO. WHEN IT COMES TO INGRESS-EGRESS FOUR SUBDIVISIONS.
GRANTED, YES. THIS IS A SMALLER SET OF VISION, NOT A WHOLE LOT.
YES, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL 60, 70 CARS IN THAT AREA MOST LIKELY, COULD BE MORE.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, MAYBE WE START PUSHING A LITTLE HARDER ON OTHER IN FIELDS THAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO COME UP.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY WILL HAPPEN.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES MORE TO PROMOTE SAFETY AND THE ABILITY TO GET ANY OUT OF A SUBDIVISION IF THERE'S A FIRE, MEDICAL CALL, POLICE ISSUE GOING ON THAT NEED A BLOCK, THE ROADS CAN'T HAVE THEIR WAY TO GET IN AND OUT.
ANY OTHER? GUESS GO AHEAD, CHRIS.
>> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION.
IF MAYBE SEPARATE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT DO WE DESIGN AND EVENTUALLY BUILD THAT OUT? THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
AGAIN, MAY NOT GET DONE TOMORROW BECAUSE OF FUNDING OR WHATEVER,
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BUT AS WE LOOK AT FUTURE ROAD DEVELOPMENTS INVOLVED FOR FUNDING OR ACTION ITEMS, WE CAN PUT THAT ON LIST OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO.>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GIVE THAT DIRECTION OBVIOUSLY, SUBJECT TO FUNDING.
BE MORE SPECIFIC WHEN YOU'RE ADDRESSING THIS STUFF OUT OR WITH SOME OTHER.
>> THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS OLD STUB-OUT STREET SERVES AS A DRIVEWAY TO THE LOT THAT'S JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT STREET.
THAT STREET THERE WAS CONSTRUCTED PROPERTY TO START WITH. IT'S JUST A DRIVEWAY.
SO WHEN THE LAW OR WHATEVER NAME IT'S, MOLINA SUBDIVISION, APPARENTLY WHEN IT WENT THROUGH PLANNING, THEY WERE PLANNING TO GIVE ACCESS TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES VIA THIS STREET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MOLINA DRIVE.
BUT [OVERLAPPING] ANY PROPERTY CAN'T GET IN THERE.
>> YOU DEFINITELY CAN'T GET ON IT.
>> BUT YOU'LL FIND THESE SITUATIONS ALL OVER TOWN.
I WOULD RECOMMEND AT LEAST VISITING THIS, LOOKING AT MAKING CONTINUITY THERE AND WHEN IT'S DISCUSSED EARLY ON BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAD A THOUGHT OF MAKING STREET CONTINUITY BACK WAY.
>> MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I THINK PROBABLY GOING FORWARD AT THIS POINT, THE BEST APPROACH WOULD BE TO JUST SAY THAT THE STAFF TAKES A CLOSER LOOK AT ROAD CONNECTIONS GOING FORWARD WITH OTHER PLATS THAT COME IN FOR REVIEW.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ONE THAT MAKE THAT CONNECTION MORE THAN A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO DO.
BUT THERE WON'T BE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS WHERE THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT STREETS, AND I THINK THAT THE STAFF CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ISSUE AS WE LOOK AT THOSE PLATS.
>> I ECHO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT A COOKIE-CUTTER ANSWER.
ONE ANSWER FITS ALL SIZES, BUT WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY EXPLORE.
>> I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST ESPECIALLY IN [INAUDIBLE] WITH MY SURROUNDING NEIGHBOR IS THE ONE THAT OF THE INCIDENT.
>> EVEN THE ROADS WOULD CONNECT.
>> I THINK WE'VE DONE IT AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS WHEN AVAILABLE.
>> YOU ARE RIGHT SINCE I'M LOOKING AT THE GOOGLE EARTH AND IT'S SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S PROBABLY 15 FEET WIDE.
IF IT'S EVEN THAT MUCH, AND THERE ARE SOME TREES GOING RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
YOU'RE RIGHT. GOOD DISCUSSION.
SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME DIRECTION GOING FOR STAFF TOO.
ONCE THESE POP-UP, WE CAN REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT CONNECTIVITY, AND LIKE YOU SAY, WHEN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS, LET'S TRY TO GO FOR IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
[13. Discussion and possible action on the preliminary replat of Angleton Park Place Section 1.]
HEARING NONE, I CALL FOR A VOTE.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSING SAY SIGN.
MOTION CARRIES. MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
ITEM NUMBER 13, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PRELIMINARY RE-PLAT OF ANGLETON PARK PLACE SECTION 1, MR. WALTER.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY RE-PLAT OF ANGLETON PARK PLACE SECTION 1.
THIS IS 16.73 ACRES OF THE PROPERTY AND THIS IS IN THE [NOISE] EXCUSE ME, THIS IS IN THE MANUFACTURED HOME ZONING DISTRICT, AND THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY A MANUFACTURED ON SUBDIVISION AND NOT A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.
BASICALLY, THERE IS A SET OF COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE CLEARED.
YOU HAVE THOSE IN YOUR BACKUP, THERE'S, I WOULDN'T SAY TWO ISSUES, BUT ONE ISSUE THAT'S CONNECTED AND ILLUSTRATES WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, STREET CONNECTIONS.
THIS FIRST PHASE ISN'T SUBJECT TO SECTION 23, 11 (I), WHICH STATES THAT SUBDIVISIONS CONTAINING 30 OR MORE LOTS MUST PROVIDE TWO POINTS OF 100-YEAR STORM COMPLIANT PUBLIC ACCESS CONSTRUCTED TO ACM STANDARDS.
THIS REQUIREMENT DOESN'T COME INTO PLAY WITH THIS SECTION, BECAUSE THIS SECTION IS ONLY 26 LOTS, BUT IT WILL COME INTO PLAY WITH SUBSEQUENT SECTIONS OF THIS PROJECT.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE GET TO ISSUE 1B, WHICH IS THE IMPROVEMENT OF GIFFORD ROAD.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME, THE DEVELOPER WAS INSTRUCTED BY STAFF THAT HALF OF GIFFORD ROAD WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
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SHOULD A VARIANCE TO SECTION 23 11 (I) BE GRANTED WITH ANY FUTURE PHASES, MEANING THAT A VARIANCE BE GRANTED SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT SECONDARY ACCESS THEN THE ONLY OTHER PLAUSIBLE POINT FOR A SECOND 100-YEAR STORM COMPLIANT PUBLIC ACCESS WOULD BE [NOISE] THE CUL-DE-SAC BALL BOND.I'LL BUTCHER THIS PRONUNCIATION LEGALLY A LOOP.
USING THAT AS A SECOND ACCESS POINT WOULD REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION OF GIFFORD ROAD.
WE DO HAVE A PROPOSAL FROM THE DEVELOPERS' ENGINEER REGARDING DIFFERENT ROAD WHICH I BELIEVE THAT HDR HAS BEEN REVIEWING.
BUT WE DON'T YET HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM HDR ON THAT, BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE THAT AT THE POINT IN TIME THAT THEY SUBMIT CONSTRUCTION PLANS OR BEFORE THEY SUBMIT CONSTRUCTION PLAN, SINCE THAT MAY BE PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THIS FIRST PHASE.
HAVING SAID ALL THAT, WITH THE CLEARANCE OF ALL THE STAFF COMMENTS TO PROPOSE PRELIMINARY RE-PLAT OF SECTION 1 OTHERWISE MEETS ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, VOTED SIX IN FAVOR ZERO OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION AS RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF.
THAT WAS ON SEPTEMBER 6TH. I FORGET THE DAY.
>> THANK YOU, WALTER. I WAS JUST SLIGHTLY CONFUSED AND MAY JUST BE ME.
ON THE PART ABOUT YOU SAYING GIFFORD ROAD, IF WE ASK THEM TO EXPAND GIFFORD ROAD, IT WOULD GO ON THIS, I GUESS WHEREVER EDGE THIS IS, ALL THAT I'M LOOKING AT ON THE PLAT.
>> GIFFORD ROAD STOPS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PROPERTY AND AN EXTENSION OF THAT WOULD BE DOWN THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
>> MY FAULT, I STOPPED AT THE HATCHED BORDER AND DIDN'T READ OVER WHERE IT SAID THE UNIMPROVED.
I WAS THINKING THERE'S NO ROOM TO GO INSIDE THEIR PROPERTY, BUT IT DOES SEE WHAT'S ON THE EDGE.
>> WALTER, YOU SAYING THAT THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT HALF OF GIFFORD?
>> THAT'S THE NORMAL WAY THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN IS THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE, WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD BE HALF THE ROAD, NOT THE ENTIRETY OF THE ROAD.
>> THAT'S HOW WE END UP WITH ANGLETON BOULEVARD?
>> I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THAT'S THE CONSTRAINT THAT [LAUGHTER] WE'RE UNDER GIVEN VARIOUS SUPREME COURT DECISIONS ON THE SUBJECT.
>> HOW MANY UNITS IS THIS AGAIN?
>> SECTION 1 IS 26. OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK THE OVERALL PROJECT IS ABOUT 75.
>> PLUS GIFFORD MEADOWS, WHICH IS 86? GIFFORD MEADOWS IS 86?
>> THIS IS ON PHILIPS ROAD GIFFORD MEADOWS [OVERLAPPING] IS UP ON CEMETERY.
>> GIFFORD MEADOWS IS ON GIFFORD ROAD.
>> IT'S STILL ON GIFFORD THOUGH.
[OVERLAPPING] I'M ADDING UP ALL THE LOCATIONS.
>> YEAH, WHAT I'M DOING IS I'M GOING THROUGH ALL THE ADDITIONS WE'VE PUT ON GIFFORD AND THE ROAD IS ALREADY NARROW AND DANGEROUS AS IT IS.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD POLICE PUT THE CAT OUT THERE, AND ONE OF OUR HIGHEST RECORDINGS OF SPEED IS ON THIS ROAD.
THAT'S MY CONCERN, IS WE'RE ADDING MORE AND MORE TO THIS ROAD.
NOW, WE AS A CITY ARE GOING TO BE FORCED TO DO SOMETHING.
WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I'M NOT SAYING NOT TO PUT ANOTHER SUBDIVISION IN, BUT I'M SAYING, ONCE THIS GOES IN SOME OF THE CITY TO FIX GIFFORD.
>> GIFFORD IS IN THE SAME SITUATION [INAUDIBLE] AS GIFFORD AS WELL. [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE'RE PUTTING A LOT [NOISE] OF THIS ON GIFFORD BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO ACCESS IT.
THEY'LL COME FROM PHILIPS AS WELL ON THIS LOCATION, BUT IT'S A STRAIGHT SHOT COMING FROM ANGLETON TO COME DOWN, DOWNING RIGHT THERE, CUT ACROSS COMING DOWN
>> IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PART OF ANGLETON YOU ARE GOING TO [NOISE].
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>> THAT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
>> WALTER, IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND YOUR SAYING IS, OR MAYBE JUDITH, I DON'T KNOW WHO.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT HALF THE ROAD, WE CANNOT EXPECT THEM TO REQUIRE ANY MORE OF THEM THAN THAT, EXCUSE ME?
>> THAT'S THE TYPICAL PERIMETER STREET IMPROVEMENT REQUIREMENT THAT IS IN THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS HALF OF THE STREET. [OVERLAPPING]
>> JUST WONDERING IF WE JUST LITERALLY MADE IT THE ENTIRE ROAD, WOULD THAT SUBJECT THE CITY TO ANY LITIGATION WHEN WE'D BE?
>> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS STREET.
BUT ON RIGHT OF WAY, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON EACH SIDE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, HAVE A RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP TO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
>> THAT, YOU CAN'T CHANGE [NOISE].
>> IT MAY BE THAT IT COULD BE RIPE FOR CITY PROJECT TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLANS IN SOME POINT IN TIME.
[OVERLAPPING] DEPENDING ON THE CITY ENGINEER'S REVIEW OF THEIR PROPOSAL REGARDING THE ROAD, IT MAY BE THAT THERE CAN BE SOMETHING THE CITY COULD MAKE IT A JOINT PROJECT AND BUILD A [INAUDIBLE] ROOM. I DON'T KNOW.
>> WE DON'T NEED MORE PROJECTS [NOISE].
NOT MORE ROAD PROJECTS FOR SURE.
THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT PROPERTY JUST SOUTH OF IT.
YOU DO HALF A ROAD AND THEN SOMEBODY BELOW HIM COMES IN, THEY DO HALF A ROAD.
>> YOU ADDRESS THE SITUATION. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE.
I'M JUST GOING TO ADDRESS THAT SITUATION IF IT COMES UP. ONE DAY AT A TIME.
>> TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS, JOHN, AS WE GO FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, WHETHER IT'S THIS COUNCIL OR COUNCIL FROM 10, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WE MAY HAVE TO PARTNER [NOISE] WITH THAT DEVELOPER AND SAY, "THE ONLY WAY WE MAY ALLOW YOU TO GET TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS YOU BUILD US THE ROAD." LET'S JUST GIVE A TASTE JUST LIKE WE DID OVER AT TIGNALL.
WE'RE [INAUDIBLE] PROCESS SO THAT MAYBE SOMEDAY RATHER THEY'LL T LOOK AT IT.
>> THAT'S WHAT AM THINKING RIGHT NOW.
>> NOW'S THE TIME TO ASK FOR THE ROAD TO BE FULLY COMPLETED TO THE EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.
JUST LIKE WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE COUNTRY LANE APARTMENTS.
NOT COUNTRY LANE, BUT THE ONE NEXT TO FREEDOM PARK. WE WERE GOING TO MAKE IT.
>> SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE DIDN'T FINISH IT UP TO THE CORNER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT AS EMERGENCY ACCESS.
WE STOP NOW WE'RE ON THE LOOK FOR THAT.
THERE'S JUST SO MANY LOCATIONS.
HAMILTON BOULEVARD IS ANOTHER ONE.
THIS IS OUR TIME TO GET THIS FIXED, NOT TO ALL SIT HERE 25, 30 YEARS LATER AND GO, "WHY DID THE COUNCIL NOT DO THAT?" LIKE WE DID WITH ANGLETON BOULEVARD. THAT'S MINE
>> I'M FULLY ON YOUR SIDE THERE, JOHN.
I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN IS DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT? I GUESS WE CAN ALWAYS NEGOTIATE.
I GUESS MAYBE WE CAN'T MAYBE IF THEY MEET THE ALL THEN CHECK ALL THE BOXES OUT THERE.
>> THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS PLAT APPROVAL.
FOR PLAT APPROVAL, YOU CAN ONLY APPROVE IT, DISAPPROVE OR APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS [NOISE].
IF YOU WANT TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO APPROACH WHOMEVER IS DEVELOPING THAT ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN DO THAT.
>> IN CONDITIONS, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THERE THOUGH? WHAT KIND OF CONDITIONS ARE THERE?
>> NORMALLY THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE SET FORTH BY YOUR CITY PLANNER OR YOUR ENGINEER.
>> NOT CONDITIONS ON [OVERLAPPING].
>> [INAUDIBLE] APPROVAL IS ADMINISTERIAL [BACKGROUND].
>>IT APPEARS WE ARE PUTTING A BOULEVARD ENTRANCE INTO THIS HALF OF GIFFORD, PHILIPS.
>> THERE'LL BE A LITTLE GUARDED ENTRANCE.
THERE'LL HAVE TO BE IN ORDER TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 23-11-I.
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IT'S THE OTHER PART OF THAT SECTION THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE 200 YEAR ACCESSIBLE ENTRANCES TO THE PROPERTY AND THERE ISN'T A SECOND ENTRANCE OUT TO PHILIPS.THE ONLY OTHER PLAUSIBLE WAY TO GET THAT SECOND ENTRANCE IS TO TAKE THAT CALLED A SACK THAT'S IN THIS SECTION AND BUILD AT LEAST HALF OF GIFFORD ROAD DOWN TO THERE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT SECONDARY ACCESS.
>> THEN I'M LOOKING AT IT, MAYBE FROM THE DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, IS THE COST OF HAVING THEN PUT A ROAD IN SQUASH THEIR HOPE, THEIR DREAM, SO TO SPEAK, OR THEIR PROJECT? IS THIS A PROJECT LARGE ENOUGH WHERE IT'S FEASIBLE FOR THEM OR NOT FEASIBLE FOR THEM? I'M LOOKING AT THAT PORTION OF IT AS WELL.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE ON THE CITY'S DON TO GO BACK AND FINISH A ROAD LATER BECAUSE OF A NEW SUBDIVISION.
AM LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT ASPECT, BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M WORRIED ABOUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE TALKING 20, HOW MANY UNITS DID THEY SAY?
>>THEY SAY SIX, THE FIRST GOAL RAIL.
>> I'D REALLY WANT THEM TO PUT IT ON THEM BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING THE CITY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY FOR 26 UNITS.
>> REMEMBER, HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE BOULEVARD INTERESTS, SO HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE TWO IN, CORRECT?
>> BUT HE'S GOING TO HAVE A BOULEVARD ONTO A ONE-LANE ROAD.
>> THERE'S A BOULEVARD ON TO PHILIPS.
>> THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING L ALSO PREFER THAT HE GOES WITHOUT IN THE CITY BECAUSE YOU'RE.
>> WAS WALTER GOING TO SAY SOMETHING? [OVERLAPPING] MY QUESTION WAS [OVERLAPPING] THE INTERESTS THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE BECAUSE IT FANS OUT ONCE IT GETS THE PHILIPS IS GOING TO BE THE DOUBLE LANE, SO THAT GIVES THEM THE TWO INTO OUR EVEN ONCE THEY EXPAND.
THERE'LL BE IN COMPLIANCE, CORRECT?
>> ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL. A LOT TO THINK ABOUT HERE.
I THINK YOU'RE THE OWNER. ARE YOU THE OWNER IN HERE? YOU'RE HEARING THE CONVERSATION? [LAUGHTER]
>> YEAH, FEEL FREE TO JUMP UP.
>> THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, NOW YOU'VE HEARD US WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM, DO YOU HAVE ANY TALKING POINTS OR [OVERLAPPING] CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
>>THEY GAVE THE QUOTE FOR HALF THE ROAD.
I FEEL THAT WOULD BE REALLY SUBSTANTIAL FOR ME TO TAKE ON THE REST OF THAT PROJECT.
I'M TRYING TO COMMIT A FIRST-CLASS OPERATION WITH IT, THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED ANGLETON PARK PLACE.
L PREVIOUSLY BUILT THE GULF COAST FIVE-STAR V PARK, ONE OF THE NICER PARKS IN THE COMMUNITY IN OYSTER CREEK, L DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW THAT PLACE.
BUT THIS ONE I'M TRYING TO PUT A STIPULATION OF A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A NICE MANUFACTURED OWN PLACE, WITH NEWER MOBILE HOMES.
BUT L FEEL THAT IF WE HAVE TO DEVELOP THE WHOLE ROAD, THAT IT CAN BE A SUBSTANTIAL COST TO THE PROJECT.
WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH PHASE 1 AND SEE HOW IT GOES IF YOU GUYS APPROVE IT AND WE'LL PROBABLY SKIP PHASE 2 AND GO STRAIGHT TO FINISH THE WHOLE THING.
THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE DIVIDING IT BUT THE COST IS SUBSTANTIAL.
THE QUOTE THAT THEY GAVE US FOR HALF THE ROAD WAS 275,000 L BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WOULD IT BEEN ZONED, PAID EVERYTHING THINKING THAT I COULD DEVELOP IT THIS WAY.
>> MIKE MORGAN. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS.
>> ALRIGHT, COUNCIL ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANY ACTION? [NOISE] ANY ACTION COMING OUT OF NUMBER 13? LAST CALL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WAIT A SECOND HERE. WE'LL GET IT ON THE TABLE.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT OF ANGLETON PARK PLACE SECTION 1.
SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT ALL STAFF COMMENTS ARE CLEARED PRIOR TO SUBMISSION OF ANY FINAL REPLAT.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.
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SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[14. Discussion and possible action on the preliminary replat for the Brazoria County Courthouse Campus Expansion.]
AYE. [OVERLAPPING] ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.>> THAT'S TWO AYES, FOUR YESES, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
ITEM NUMBER 14: DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT FOR THE BRAZORIA COUNTY COURTHOUSE CAMPUS EXPANSION. MS. LINDSEY.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT FOR THE COURTHOUSE EXPANSION PROJECTS, AND WHILE I WROTE THIS AGENDA ITEM TO ENCOMPASS COMMENTS BEING CLEARED BY TODAY'S DATE, I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT ALL COMMENTS ARE CLEARED BEFORE THE FINAL REPLAT.
THIS IS A FLUID SITUATION, SO SOME OF THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN CLEARED, SOME REMAIN OUTSTANDING, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER MATTER, THAT I'M NOT TOTALLY VERSED ON, THAT DEALS WITH, IS IT THE WATERLINE?
FOR THAT REASON, ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT ALL COMMENTS ARE CLEARED AT THE FINAL REPLAT, AND P&Z WAS IN FAVOR, WITH SIX NOT OPPOSED AND ONE ABSENT.
>> THANK YOU, MS. LINDSEY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LINDSEY OR STAFF? ANY ACTION NOW WE'RE COMING OFF OF [OVERLAPPING]
>> I REMEMBER THERE WAS TALK ABOUT GETTING SOME SANITARY OR STORM SEWER EASEMENTS, I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT, A WATERLINE EASEMENT.
IF ALL THAT CAN GET RECORDED ON THIS PLAT RATHER THAN THE HAVING SOME WRITTEN DOCUMENT.
IT'S JUST SO MUCH CLEANER IF YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND GET IT ON THE PLAT, THAT WAY IT'S THERE.
AT LEAST SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO RUN THROUGH THE RECORDS TO TRY TO FIND SOME OBSCURE 10-FOOT EASEMENT.
I'VE DONE THAT. IT'S TROUBLESOME.
>> I DO LIKE ALL THE BOXES WITH ARROWS ON THE PLAT.
THAT WAS NICE. IT POPS, SO YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. WHOEVER DID THAT, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR ACTION NOW THAT WE'RE COMING OFF OF ITEM NUMBER 14?
>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REPLAT.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.
SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
[21. Discussion and possible action on the preliminary plat of Austin Colony Section I.]
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.AYE. [OVERLAPPING] ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES.
WE DID HAVE A REQUEST TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 21 AFTER 14, SO WE'LL JUMP TO THAT ONE REAL QUICK.
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF AUSTIN COLONY SECTION 1. MR. WALTER.
>> HI. MY THANKS TO WHOEVER REQUESTED THIS [LAUGHTER]
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT WAS IN MY NOTES.
>> AS YOU JUST READ, THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SECTION 1 OF AUSTIN COLONY.
THIS SECTION CONSISTS OF 42.36 ACRES, AND IT'S THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S DOWN AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER ALONG COUNTY ROAD 44.
THE PROPERTY IS IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT.
THERE'LL BE A 100 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND FIVE RESERVED LOTS. [NOISE] EXCUSE ME.
THERE IS A LIST OF COMMENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP.
WE HAVE RECEIVED A RESPONSE TO THOSE COMMENTS TODAY, SO WE WILL BE ATTEMPTING TO CLEAR THOSE, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
PROBABLY THE THREE BIGGEST ITEMS HERE ARE THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT HAS BEEN UNDER REVIEW.
THE SECOND ITEM IS PROVISION OF A TREE PRESERVATION PLAN.
LONG STORY SHORT HERE, SECTION 23-60 E-2 SAYS, "PROPERTY IS ZONED OR USED FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES, WHICH INCLUDES THE HARVESTING OF TIMBER." THAT'S AN EXEMPTION TO THE HERITAGE TREE PRESERVATION SECTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ISN'T ZONED FOR AGRICULTURAL USES, AND I KNOW THAT PROBABLY MOST OF YOU WHO LIVE HERE FOR A LONG TIME HAVE SEEN CATTLE ON THE PROPERTY.
TIGNER FAMILY EITHER STILL OWNS IT, OR IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING SOLD, AND THEY PROBABLY STILL RUN SOME CATTLE FROM TIME TO TIME ON IT.
I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT THAT EXEMPTION APPLIES IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THE HERITAGE TREE PRESERVATION SECTION SAYS THAT A HERITAGE TREE PLANT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SUBMITTED WITH ALL PLATS AND ALL SITE PLANS, AND IN THIS CASE, THIS PLAT IS FOR A HUNDRED LOTS OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
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I DON'T THINK THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE HERE, AND I WILL CERTAINLY GRANT IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY CLEAR, WAS TO EXEMPT A 100-LOT SECTION OF A 520-LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION FROM THE HERITAGE TREE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE CATTLE STILL RUNNING ON THE PROPERTY, BUT AS THIS IS ALL NEW FOR ALL OF US HERE, AND BECAUSE THIS SECTION IS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOU ALL GET TO DECIDE THAT, AND IF YOU THINK THAT THE EXEMPTION APPLIES, THEN IT APPLIES, AND WE'LL APPLY IT THAT WAY GOING FORWARD.IF YOU THINK THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT DOESN'T APPLY BECAUSE THE PLAT IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR A 100 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT, AND THEN WE'LL APPLY IT THAT WAY GOING FORWARD, TOO.
THE LAST ITEM IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MAIN NORTH/SOUTH STREET AND PARTIAL CONSTRUCTION OF TIGNER DRIVE.
YOU HAVE THE LAND PLAN AND YOUR BACKUP FROM THE PD ORDINANCE, AND IT VERY CLEARLY INCLUDES, THOSE TWO ROADS, IN SECTION 1, AND THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT.
AS SUCH, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IS NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE PD ZONING ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT, AND THAT ISSUE CAN BE ADDRESSED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND A FINAL PLAT DOCUMENT TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE, SO HAVING SAID ALL THAT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BOARD, WITH FOUR IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED, AND ONE ABSENT TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
[NOISE] THE STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED SECTION 1 PRELIMINARY PLAT OF AUSTIN COLONY, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: THAT ALL COMMENTS GENERATED AS PART OF THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAT REVIEW PROCESS ARE CLEARED PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION [NOISE] OF ANY FINAL PLAT APPLICATION THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION OF ANY FINAL PLAT APPLICATION, THAT A HERITAGE TREE SURVEY, TREE PRESERVATION PLAN, IS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO SUBMISSION OF ANY FINAL PLAT APPLICATION, AND THAT THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND ANY FINAL PLAT APPLICATION FOR SECTION 1 INCLUDE THE MAIN NORTH/SOUTH STREET AND A PORTION OF TIGNER DRIVE.
>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TIGNER DRIVE JUST GOING TO WHERE IT TURNS SOUTH, RIGHT?
>> IT DIDN'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE EDGE OF HIS PROPERTY UNTIL HE DEVELOPS THOSE PIECES OUT.
>> AS YOU LOOK AT THE LAND PLAN, IT SHOWS THAT THOSE PORTIONS OF TIGNER DRIVE THAT EXTEND FROM THAT INTERSECTION ARE IN OTHER PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THOSE PHASES, BUT THE LAND PLAN VERY CLEARLY SHOWS THAT EXTENSION OF TIGNER AND THEN THAT NORTH/SOUTH STREET IS PART OF THIS PHASE, AND IT'S NOT PART OF THIS PHASE, SO, IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THAT PHASE.
UNLESS THEY GO BACK AND AMEND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING TO CHANGE THE LAND PLAN SO THAT THAT ISN'T PART OF THE FIRST PHASE, WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.
>> IT NEEDS TO BECAUSE THERE'S GOT TO BE A POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THAT.
I WANT TO FOCUS ON NUMBER 3, THE HERITAGE TREE SURVEY.
MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY.
YOU'RE TRYING TO CLAIM AN AG EXEMPTION BASED ON THE FACT THAT THERE ARE CURRENTLY SOME CATTLE THAT MAYBE ROAMING THAT PROPERTY UNTIL IT'S COMPLETELY DEVELOPED AND PLATTED?
>> [OVERLAPPING] THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THAT?
>> THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE HERITAGE TREE ORDINANCE.
>> LIKE I SAID, YOU ARE THE FINAL ARBITER ON THAT, AND IF YOU AGREE, THEN DON'T INCLUDE THAT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE, THEN YOU INCLUDE THAT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, SO I KNOW WHAT I'M AGREEING TO BECAUSE IF I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A STILL SUBJECT TO THE HERITAGE TREE SURVEY/TREE PRESERVATION PLAN, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND IT AS YOU HAVE THE SUGGESTED MOTION.
>> WE BROUGHT UP THE HERITAGE TREE ISSUE. THANK YOU.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT STIPULATES THE SIZE OF A PECAN OR SIZE OF A LIVE OAK,
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AND DECLARING THAT AS A HERITAGE TREE.IF YOU HAVE A SAPLING THAT COMES UP OUT THERE, IS THAT DECLARED A HERITAGE TREE?
>> IT WOULD BE. [NOISE]. THE HERITAGE TREE SECTION VERY CLEARLY SAYS THAT LIVE OAKS AND PECANS ARE HERITAGE TREES AND YOU'RE CORRECT [OVERLAPPING].
>> YES SIR, I'LL READ IT. BUT IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE SIZE.
>> MAKES NO DISTINCTION ON THE SIZE OF THE TREE.
>> THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM.
>> I UNDERSTAND. I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRYING TO CIRCUMNAVIGATE THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, I DON'T WANT TO CIRCUMNAVIGATE.
>> WHAT I'M TRYING TO ARTICULATE THAT IT'S SOMEHOW AN AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY WHEN THEY'RE CLEARLY SETTING IT UP TO BE DEVELOPED AS A [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THINK WE RAN ACROSS THAT MAN WHEN I WAS FIRST ON CITY COUNCIL THAT WAS, I THINK, RIVERWOOD WAS TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING IN THEIR TAX. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?
>> WE DID DO SOMETHING THOUGH, RIGHT?
>> WE DID A PART OF IT [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT WE KNEW THAT WAS SECTION 3 THAT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IN A NUMBER OF YEARS.
>> THANK YOU, WALTER, FOR THAT BRIEF.
COUNCIL, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THERE IS A SUGGESTED IN MOTION, SHOULD WE GET TO THAT POINT IN OUR PRACTICE.
>> WELL, HAS THE [NOISE] OWNER COME TO THE CITY ASKING TO NOT EXTEND, TAKE THEIR DRIVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH OR IS THIS?
>> MR. RAY HAS MADE COMMENTS THAT HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT UNTIL HE DID PHASE 2.
>> I DO REMEMBER THAT, YEAH [OVERLAPPING].
>> PHASE 2. THE CONDITION WAS UNTIL WE GOT TO PHASE 2 AND I GET THAT IT'S A COST INVOLVED AND I'M SURE HE'S GOT TO SELL A LOTS TO GET SOME OF THAT FUNDING TO GET TO THAT POINT.
BUT DO YOU REMEMBER THAT HE DID SAY HE COULD DO IT IN SECTIONS AND PHASES.
>>WELL, I AGREE. THE [INAUDIBLE], IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT, EXTENDS ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE END OF TIGNER DRIVE IN FRONT OF WALMART.
THIS WAS PRESENTED THIS WAY THEN WITHOUT ASKING FOR A REVISION AND I EXPECT THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
>> JUST LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS TWO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] TWO ENTRANCES AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE GETTING BUILT ON THERE.
A HUNDRED HOMES, IS IT MORE HOMES THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO TOPICS WE DISCUSSED TODAY?
HAD YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. RAY IN REGARDS TO TIGNER? IF YOU CAN COME TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? THANK YOU. I'M NOT THROWING YOU UNDER THE BUS, BUT YOU MAY HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION OR TWO WITH HIM?
WOULD YOU-ALL GIVE ME A MINUTE LET ME CALL DOUG RIGHT QUICK AND JUST VERIFY?
>> I DIDN'T KNOW YOU-ALL WERE GOING TO GET TO THIS ONE SO FAST.
WHILE SHE'S MAKING A PHONE CAL.
>> REGARDING THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, JOHN, HAVE YOU HAD ANY COORDINATION WITH THEM ON THAT OR?
>> WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ONE YET.
WE WILL BE REQUESTING THAT FOR TIA WHEN TO MAKE THOSE TIMES.
>> OKAY, I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY HAS DECLARED THAT COUNTY ROAD 44 IS A MAJOR [BACKGROUND] BOULEVARD OR WHAT THEY CALL IT, BUT IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
IT IS EVENTUALLY INTENDED TO BE WIDENED TO LACK A MULTI-LANE ACCESS IN AND OUT OF TOWN.
>>THEY HAVE SUBMITTED, I THINK, THE PREVIOUS TIP FUNDING PROJECTS.
THEY SUBMITTED TO MAKE THAT A BOULEVARD SECTION, TO MAKE THAT A GATEWAY INTO THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
>> IS THIS PLANNING WITH THAT POSSIBILITY IN MIND?
>> THE AGREEMENT THAT MR. RAY HAS WITH THE TIGNERS IS THAT ONCE HE HAS 50 HOUSES SOLD, THE REST OF TIGNER DRIVE WOULD BE BUILT.
>> WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT FOR A BOULEVARD ACCESS TWO POINTS OF INTEREST?
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HOW MANY HOUSES? [BACKGROUND].>> THERE'S ANOTHER PROVISION IN THAT SECTION A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN ABOUT HOW YOU CAN ALLOW IT TO HAVE JUST THE BOULEVARD THING, BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO ENTER INTO ALL KINDS OF AGREEMENTS TO PROVIDE THE SECONDARY ACCESS BY A DATE CERTAIN [BACKGROUND] SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE A DATE CERTAIN ON WHEN THAT SECONDARY ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED.
I DON'T HAVE THAT ACTUAL WORDING IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT SAYS.
>> ESSENTIALLY A CONDITION PLACED ON RECEIPT?
>> YEAH, IT SAYS FOR MORE THAN 50 LOTS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS BOULEVARD ENTRANCE, AND COUNCIL CAN ALLOW THE DEFERRAL OF THE OTHER SECONDARY ACCESS PROVIDED THAT, I WANT TO SAY, THEY HAVE TO ENTER INTO A BONDING AGREEMENT WHERE THEY PROVIDE A BOND FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD WITH A DATE ON WHEN THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE BUILT, THAT SECONDARY ACCESS IS GOING TO BE PROVIDED.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
I CAN GO PRINT IT OUT AS WE'RE [NOISE] WAITING AND GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION IF YOU [OVERLAPPING].
>> WHAT COMES TO MIND TO ME IS GREYSTONE, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE THE ONE ENTRANCE TO THEIR SUBDIVISION?
>> THEY HAVE A SECONDARY, BUT WE HAVE IT BLOCKED. [OVERLAPPING].
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED FOR A WHILE.
>> IT'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTED. [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, THEY BUILT ALL THE ROADS FIRST [OVERLAPPING].
>> I GUESS I HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THERE IN A WHILE.
>> NOW, RIVERWOOD YOU'RE RIGHT.
RIVERWOOD ONLY HAS ONE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE COMING IN.
THEY HAVEN'T CONNECTED TO HOSPITAL YET.
>> BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING ON PHASE THAT'S PART OF DESIGN FOR TWO AND THREE.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO DO THREE ENTRIES ON THERE. ONE ON HOSPITAL [OVERLAPPING].
>> I KNOW. WHAT I MEANT IS PHASE 2 HOSPITAL?
>> YES, I BELIEVE PHASE 2 IS HOSPITAL. GO AHEAD.
>> IN RIVERWOOD RANCH, PHASE 2 WILL PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO HOSPITAL [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PART 2 ON THAT, SO [INAUDIBLE]
>> YEAH, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING HOUSES AND BE TO THAT 30 BEFORE THAT GETS DONE.
SAME THING. WE WOULD PUT THAT WHEEL IN MOTION ON THAT ONE.
BUT THEY SAY 50 HOUSES, THEN HE'S GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THE NEXT ONE.
WELL, IF HE GETS TO 50 HOUSES, YOU DON'T ISSUE BUILDING PERMITS UNTIL WE KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION'S UNDERWAY AND THEY HE SHOWED GOOD FAITH.
>> I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE VERBIAGE THOUGH.
>> YEAH. >> IT'S 50 HOUSES SOLD, NOT 50 HOUSES CONSTRUCTED.
>> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THERE [OVERLAPPING].
IT CAN TAKE 75 HOUSES BEFORE YOU GET 50 SOLD.
>> MY SUGGESTION ON THIS WOULD BE THAT YOU CAN MODIFY THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD TO BE THAT, I WOULD SAY, AFTER THE 50TH BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED, THAT THE EXTENSION OF THE ROAD [NOISE] AND THE CONNECTION TO TIGNER BE CONSTRUCTED.
BUT THEY STILL NEED TO INCLUDE THAT INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, AND THEY NEED TO SHOW IT AS PART OF THE FINAL PLAN.
EVEN IF THE CONDITION IS THAT IT BE CONSTRUCTED AFTER THE 50TH BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED IN THAT SECTION.
JUDITH CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> WE CAN WRITE THAT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> HAD ONE GOOD IDEA TONIGHT [LAUGHTER].
>> THANK YOU, WALTER, FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SOLUTION. COUNCIL.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN ARE WE PLANNING ON HAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FINALIZED?
>> GOOD QUESTION. I JUST GOT THE LAST VERSION FROM THEM LAST WEEK.
I'M WORKING ON IT NOW. WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
THEIR ATTORNEY AND I ARE WORKING ON IT.
[OVERLAPPING] I CAN'T REALLY SAY HOW MUCH LONGER WE TAKE, IT GOES BACK AND FORTH.
>> I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS, SO THEY ALREADY HAVE OR US AND EVERYTHING.
>> THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, MR. SPELMAN.
[OVERLAPPING] NO. THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY NOT.
BUT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS SUBJECT TO YOUR NEW PID POLICY.
WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE ABOUT HOW WE PROCEED.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
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>> IF YOU'D LIKE HIM TO SAY ANYTHING, YOU COULD PUT HIM ON SPEAKER.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IF WE'D LIKE TO LIMIT THINGS AT THE 20TH BUILDING PERMIT AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE PLAT THAT IS PRESENTED CAN AFFECT THAT.
BUT TO BUILD TO GET THESE ROADS CONNECTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THERE, IT'S GOING TO NEED ANOTHER PLAT.
MAYBE JUST A STREET DEDICATION PLAT TO PUT THE STREET, PLAT AWAY ON THE GROUND.
JUST TRYING TO KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.
>> SHE'S COMING TO THE PODIUM.
>> THEY ARE GOING TO DO A ROAD DEDICATION AS YOU SAID SO.
AS SOON AS THIS IS APPROVED, SECTION 1, SECTION 2, WE'LL START SO THAT ALL THAT WILL BE BUILT.
BUT THE ROAD WILL BE STARTED WHEN THERE'S 50 HOUSES BUILDING PERMITS AND NO MORE; IS THAT CORRECT?
>> MY OPINION IS 30 HOUSES BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE CODE.
THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO 50, I CAN GO 50.
>> IF THE 50 CAME UP WITH THE INITIAL, I THINK WE'LL SET A PRECEDENT WITH RIVERWOOD.
I'M TRYING TO GET IT, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP WALKING THE SAME LINE FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT IF HE SAID 50 WAS WHERE HE AT, MR. RAY'S BEING VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THIS ONE.
I WOULD ALSO APPROVE A 50 IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S JUST ME. I'M ONE.
>> THEN WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT CHANGING THAT CODE OF ORDINATES FOR THAT [OVERLAPPING] WE VARY FROM THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS. THERE IS A SUGGESTED MOTION INSIDE THE PACKET IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE OR OTHER MEANS?
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE PROPOSED SECTION 1 PRELIMINARY PLAT OF AUSTIN COLONY SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONS.
ONE, ALL COMMENTS GENERATED AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT REVIEW PROCESS ARE CLEARED PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION OF ANY FINAL PLAT OF APPLICATION.
NUMBER TWO, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION OF ANY FINAL PLAT APPLICATION.
THREE, A HERITAGE TREE SURVEY, TREE PRESERVATION PLAN IS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO SUBMISSION OF ANY FINAL PLAT APPLICATION.
THEN FOUR, THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND ANY FINAL PLAT APPLICATION FOR SECTION 1, INCLUDE THE MAIN NORTH-SOUTH STREET AND PORTION TIGNER DRIVE AFTER THE 50TH HOUSE PERMITTED.
>> YOU'RE REAL CLOSE. [LAUGHTER] THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS NEED TO BE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE ROAD.
BUT CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD COMMENCING AFTER THE 50TH BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED FOR SECTION 1.
>> I THINK THE BUZZWORD WAS COMMENCED. THERE YOU GO.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT.
>> SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA.
>> YES. YOU'RE SAYING CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD ALL THE WAY OVER TO WALMART, THEM THERE'S NO PLAT AT THIS POINT TO ACCOMPLISH THAT?
>> NO. THEY'LL HAVE TO SHOW IT. THEY'LL HAVE TO SHOW THE ROAD ON THE FINAL PLAT OF SECTION 1.
>> THEN THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT THEN WILL HAVE TO BE AMENDED TO PUT THE ROADWAY ALL THE WAY AROUND TO WALMART.
>> MY FEELING IS THAT THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.
THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS THAT THEY INCLUDE THE ROAD ALL THE WAY AROUND THERE WITH THE FINAL PLAT APPLICATION.
SO THE FINAL PLAT IS GOING TO SHOW NOT ONLY SECTION 1, BUT IT'S GOING TO SHOW THE ROAD ALL THE WAY.
>> I'M GETTING THAT OUT ON A TABLE THAT WHEN THE FINAL PLAT COMES, THEY'LL DO A LONG APPENDAGE [OVERLAPPING] THAT HOOKS US BACK OVER TO WALMART.
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LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.>> THANK YOU. THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, MR. BOOTH?
>> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
>> SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE HERE, BUT I THINK YOU STATED THAT IN WALTER IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING, WAS IT A 4-4-2 OPPOSITION VOTE, IF I REMEMBER, AND ONE ON NOT PRESENT?
>> FOUR IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED, AND WE HAD ONE MEMBER THAT WAS ABSENT.
>> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS ON THE OPPOSITION?
>> IT WAS THE SAME AS ITS BEEN ON THIS PROJECT, JUST ON THE LOTS [OVERLAPPING].
>> COULD WE [OVERLAPPING] ASK THEY HAVE TO DETERMINE AN APPROPRIATE DIAMETER OF A HERITAGE TREE? I'D HATE TO MISS A SAPLING AFTER AS BIG AS MY FINGER.
SOMEBODY COMES BACK SAY I MISSED IT.
IF IT WAS 10 OR 12 INCHES IN DIAMETER, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE CAN'T ALTER OUR CODE BUT WE HAVE TO ASK FOR GUIDANCE.
[OVERLAPPING] ANDERSON PLACE OVER THERE, I DROVE BY, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.
[NOISE] [LAUGHTER] THERE'S BEGUN SAMPLING OVER THERE, IT'S PROBABLY THREE INCHES IN DIAMETER.
I DON'T CONSIDER THAT HERITAGE.
>> HERITAGE OUGHT TO BE SOMETHING CLOSER TO MY AGE, I THINK.
[LAUGHTER] MIGHT TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS.
>> ANYMORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I'LL CALL FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE?
[15. Discussion and possible action on an Ordinance No. 20210928-015 adopting the 2021-2022 Fiscal Budget of the City of Angleton, Texas for the Fiscal Year beginning on October 1, 2021 and ending on September 30, 2022; and declaring an effective date. This budget will raise more total property taxes than last year’s budget by $124,461 or 1.67%.]
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSING SIGN? THAT MOTION CARRIES.
NOW WE'LL JUMP BACK INTO OUR ITEMS HERE, NUMBER 15 BACK IN ORDER.
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210928-015, ADOPTING THE 2021, 2022 FISCAL BUDGET OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TAXES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING ON OCTOBER 1, 2021, AND ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022 AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THIS BUDGET WILL RAISE MORE TOTAL PROPERTY TAXES THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BY 124,461 OR 1.67 PERCENT. CHRIS.
>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
IT'S GLAD TO BE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN THE EVENING.
[LAUGHTER] THIS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR MANY MEETINGS NOW WE'VE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS IN MANY DISCUSSIONS.
THIS IS THE FORMAL APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD APPROVE THE PROPOSED 2021-22 BUDGET.
I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF AND GIVE YOU THE SUMMARY.
IF WE WERE GOING TO GET TO THE 222 PAGES, WE CAN GET AS DETAILED AS YOU'D LIKE AND I'LL ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.
BUT I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT, BUT I'LL GO OVER THE SUMMARY.
THE SUMMARY IS THAT WE'RE REPROVING THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
THAT'S GOING TO DROP THE RIGHT BY 4.83 PERCENT FROM 0.665 TO 0.633 IS COMING DOWN 4.83 PERCENT.
THERE IS SOME DOLLAR INCREASE OF 124,461 OR 1.67 PERCENT IN DOLLARS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE NEW PROPERTY THAT'S ADDED, WHICH IS ABOUT 27 MILLION DOLLARS OF NEW PROPERTY.
ON THE UTILITY WATER SIDE, WE HAVE THE $7 INCREASE IN THERE, WHICH WE KNOW IS TO BRIDGE THAT GAP THAT HAS CONTINUED TO GROW AND WE DO HAVE THE EMERGENCY SHOULD I GO AND WATER PLANT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON BOND AND OUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT BUDGET AND THOSE RATES THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN OF RATES THAT WE INCLUDED.
THE LAST TIME WE'VE HAD A WATER INCREASE THAT WAS NOT A PASS-THROUGH TO BE BWA OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT FEES THAT WE CALL THEM WAS 2013, 14, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT YEARS THE SEWER RATES HAVE INCREASED SINCE THE YEAR AFTER THAT, SO ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.
NOW WE HAVE A PLAN THAT'S BEEN IN THE BUDGET.
ALSO, HEALTH INSURANCE RATES ARE WE KNOW ARE GOING TO INCREASE TO 15 PERCENT.
ALL THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORDINATES THAT'S IN THE PACKET ON PAGE 102, IT DETAILS OUT THE ACTUAL DOLLARS THAT FOR EVERY FUND THAT WOULD BE APPROVING FOR EXPENDITURES, AND THAT TOTALS THE 47.2 MILLION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A DECLINE OF 10 PERCENT BECAUSE OF THE CAPITAL FUNDS PROJECTS THAT ARE DECLINING.
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IF YOU TAKE THOSE OUT, IT'S ABOUT A 3.2 MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR IN DOLLARS.THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET THROUGH THE ORDINATES AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE A ROLL CALL AS WELL ON THE BUDGET AND THE TAX OUT, AND JUST SO THAT WE'RE SURE ON EVERYBODY VOTED RELATED TO THOSE ITEMS.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO REITERATE THAT WE'RE RAISING MORE PROPERTY TAXES THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BY $124,461, AND ADD THAT AMOUNT, IT IS ALL FROM NEW PROPERTY ADDED TO THE TAX RULE, WHICH IS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON RECORD AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT GOING FORWARD.
THE ADDITIONAL MONEY WE GET IS FROM THE GROWTH, NOT FROM THE RESIDENCE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE.
ANYWAY, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S EVALUATIONS.
THEN YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.
>> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET WHICH WILL RAISE MORE TOTAL PROPERTY TAXES IN LAST YEAR'S TOTAL TAX LEVY BY $124,461 OR 1.67 PERCENT AND OF THAT AMOUNT, A $124,461 IS TAX REVENUE TO BE RAISED FROM NEW PROPERTY ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL THIS YEAR.
>> IF YOU CONVINCE YOU THE ORDINANCE AS WELL, THAT NUMBER WOULD BE GREAT.
> TWO ZERO TWO ONE ZERO NINE TWO EIGHT DASH ZERO ONE FIVE.
>> OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY MARIPO TIMO.
>> SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION [NOISE] [NOISE] N BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE? I WILL VOTE.
I DO LEASE WANT AT LEAST SAY I APPRECIATE THAT YOU PUT IT IN OUR PACKET THE SNAPSHOT OF ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT? THERE'S LIKE EIGHT OR? YES, THERE'S SEVEN.
I'M SORRY, SEVEN, AND I GET IT.
PROBABLY ALONG WITH THESE OTHER GENTLEMEN THAT ANGLETON BLAZE THE HIGHEST TAX RATE OF BRAZORIA COUNTY.
I JUST WANT TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING AND WATCHING AS A CITY TAX RATE, WE'RE GOING TO BE SLATED IF EVERYBODY THAT GETS DONE THEIR APPROVALS AS THE FOURTH HIGHEST IN THE MIDDLE.
>> BELOW THE AVERAGE. YES, SIR.
WE'RE GOING TO BE AT THE 0.630.
I JUST WANT LET THE FOLKS KNOW IT'S LOOKING AT YOUR TOTAL TAX BILL.
THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE WILL MAKE THE COMMENT, WE PAY THE LARGEST.
JUST WANT TO LET RESIDENTS KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR PART TO BRING THAT TAX RATE DOWN AS BEST AS WE CAN AND KEEP SERVICES WHERE WE'RE AT AND BRING IN NEW SERVICES.
I JUST ALWAYS MAKE THAT NO FOR ALL THE RECORD.
ANGLETON PARALLEL BRAZORIA IN FRONT OF US.
>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
>> THE MORE SALES TAX WE SPENT IN ANGLETON THE LESS WE HAVE TO RAISE PRIVATE SECTOR.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THERE WAS A FACEBOOK POST ABOUT THAT TODAY.
ABOUT SPEND YOUR MONEY HERE IN THE CITY, HELPS US HELPS YOU GUYS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS BEFORE I DO A ROLL CALL.
>> YEAH, LET ME GO AHEAD REAL QUICK.
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE.
MENTIONED AS CHRIS SAID DURING COVID, WE'VE ALL BEEN AT HOME FOR THE MOST PART AND MOST OF THE RESIDENTS WERE SHOPPING LOCALLY BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T TRAVELING TO HOUSTON OR COMMUTING TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THAT REALLY HAD A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAVE FOR YEARS.
BUT IT TOOK COVID TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
WE WANT TO KEEP THAT MOMENTUM GOING.
WE WANT TO KEEP ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS, DO WHAT YOU WERE DOING BEFORE WHEN IT CAME TO SHOPPING IN ANGLETON, AND I UNDERSTAND THE COMPLAINT IS THERE'S NOT A LOT HERE, BUT WHAT IS HERE WE NEED TO BE SUPPORTING.
KEEP SPENDING THOSE TAX DOLLARS HERE AND WE'RE STILL SEEING THIS IS I THINK THIS THIRD YEAR NOW OF A DECLINE AND THE TAX RATE.
IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT SUBSTANTIALLY.
>> IF YOU KNOW ANY BUSINESS OWNERS AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP, ANGLETON, IS A GOOD PLACE.
>> ESPECIALLY THOSE CREATING MORE RESTAURANTS.
>> ANYMORE QUESTIONS COMING? ANYTHING ON THIS END, WE'RE GOOD.
I'LL GO AND CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
[16. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210928-016 ratifying the increase of $124,461 in property tax revenues over last year’s operating budget as reflected in the FY 2021-2022 operating budget.]
>> IT IS SIX AYES AND ANY NEYS? NO. ZERO. MOTION CARRIES.
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DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210928-016, RATIFYING THE INCREASE OF 124,461 IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUES OVER LAST YEAR'S OPERATING BUDGET AS REFLECTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 OPERATING BUDGET, MR. CHRIS?
>> ALL RIGHT. SINCE THERE IS A DOLLAR INCREASE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO RATIFY THAT DOLLAR INCREASE, WHICH IS REQUIRED SEPARATE FROM SETTING THE TAX RATE AND LIVING THE TAX IS JUST SO THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE ORDER FOR THAT, AND THAT AUDIT IS ON PAGE 324.
I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE RATIFY THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT.
WE'LL ALSO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE THROUGH THE ORDINANCE ON PAGE 324.
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR THAT BRIEF.
COUNCIL SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST A PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE FOR THIS PORTION.
>> IS THERE VERBAGE THAT YOU NEED US TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY OR?
>> JUST THE VERBIAGE THAT'S IN THE ORDINATES.
>> COUNCILMAN, WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210928-016, RATIFYING THIS INCREASE OF $124,461 AND PROPERTY TAX REVENUES OVER LAST YEAR'S OPERATING BUDGET AS REFLECTED IN THE 2021-2022 OPERATING BUDGET.
>> MOTION BY MAYOR PROTIMO, DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ONCE AGAIN, DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
SIGNIFY BY AYE IF YOU'RE FOR OR NEY IF YOU'RE AGAINST.
MAYOR PEREZ? AYE MAYOR PROTIMO? RIGHT?
>> THAT SHOWS A SIX TO ZERO MOTION CARRIES.
>> JUST GOING BACK AND FORTH HERE.
[17. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210928-017 levying the ad valorem property tax of the City of Angleton, Texas for the year of 2021 on all taxable property within the corporate limits of the city on January 1, 2021, and adopting a tax rate for 2021; providing revenues for payment of current municipal maintenance and operating expenses and for payment of interest and principal on outstanding city of Angleton debt; providing for limited exemptions of certain homesteads; providing for enforcement of collections; providing for a severability clause; and providing an effective date]
>> KEEPING US ON OUR TOES MR. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
OUR DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210928-017.
LEVYING THE AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON TEXAS FOR THE YEAR 2021 ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CORPORATE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY ON JANUARY 1ST 2021, AND ADOPTING A TAX RATE FOR 2021.
PROVIDING REVENUES FOR PAYMENT OF CURRENT MUNICIPAL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING EXPENSES AND FOR PAYMENT OF INTEREST AND PRINCIPAL ON OUTSTANDING CITY OF ANGLETON DEBT.
PROVIDING FOR LIMITED EXEMPTIONS OF CERTAIN HOMESTEADS, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT OF COLLECTIONS, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. CHRIS.
>> NOW THAT WE'VE APPROVED THE BUDGET, NOW WE NEED TO LEVY THE ACTUAL TAXES THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET AND THEN APPROVE THE TAX RATE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES.
THIS ONE'S A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VERY SPECIFIC TAX RATE, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THAT OFF.
THE TOTAL TAX RATE IS GOING TO BE 0.633041 PER $100 IN TAXABLE VALUE.
THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION THAT WILL GO TO THE GENERAL FUND IS 0.559185 AND THE INS RATE THAT WILL COVER THE CITY'S DEBT SERVICE.
THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS 0.073856.
BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS BY THE COUNTY WHICH SUPPORTS WHAT JOHN HAS SAID, FOR A $100,000 VALUE HOUSE, THE ACTUAL TAX RATE IS GOING DOWN A NEGATIVE $22.29.
ALL THE MONEY IS COMING FROM NEW PROPERTY.
THERE IS A RECOMMENDED MOTION THAT'S IN SECTION 10 ON PAGE [OVERLAPPING] GOT IT.
>> I RECOMMEND THAT WE PASS THE ORDINANCE TOO.
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210928-017.
MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE DECREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.633041, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 4.83 PERCENT DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
>> SHOULD THIS MOTION PASS, YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER PUTTING THAT ON THE INTERNET, BY THE WAY.
THAT MOTION, SPECIFICALLY SECTION 10 THAT WAS JUST READ BY JOHN. PEOPLE [OVERLAPPING].
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>> WHAT I MEANT, ADVERTISE ON OUR CITY OF ANGLETON.
>> BOLD. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]
>> I GET IT, YOU'RE CORRECT. I'M SORRY.
>> I'M THINKING NOT LEGALLY, I'M THINKING MORE SOCIALLY.
>> PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ALREADY COMPLAINING.
>> MULTI-COLOR, FUNNY [OVERLAPPING].
>> TIKTOK WILL HAVE SOME HIGH-SCHOOL KID EXPLAIN IT TO PEOPLE.
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TIKTOK. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEED A DANCER.
WE DO HAVE OUR REPORTER HERE, SO I'M SURE SHE'LL HAVE IT THERE AS WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> BECAUSE IT'S A MISCOMMUNICATION, BECAUSE WE ALL UNDERSTAND DIFFERENCE TAX RATES VERSUS ACTUAL.
>> YES, SIR. GREAT COMMENT. THANK YOU.
>> DON'T FORGET THE ROLL CALL.
>> YES. I'LL GO AHEAD DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
I'M GOING TO THROW YOU ALL OFF A LITTLE BIT.
THOSE SIGNIFIED BY AYE FOR NAY FOR AGAINST.
>> THAT MOTION CARRIES SIX AYES, ZERO NAYS.
>> NUMBER 19. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CITY'S WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. DID I MISS SOMETHING?
[18. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20210928-018 amending the utility rate tables in the fee schedule in the consolidated schedule of fees of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Angleton; revising and providing for an increase in the rates to be charged for utility services by the City of Angleton; providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances; providing a severability clause; providing for an open meetings clause; providing a penalty; and providing an effective date.]
>> YOU MISSED 18. [OVERLAPPING]
>> EIGHTEEN. IT'S EVEN A SHORT NIGHT SO FAR. NUMBER 18.
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210928-18.
AMENDING THE UTILITY RATE TABLES IN THE FEE SCHEDULE IN THE CONSOLIDATED SCHEDULE OF FEES OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON REVISING AND PROVIDING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE RIGHTS TO BE CHARGED FOR UTILITY SERVICES BY THE CITY OF ANGLETON, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING A SEPARABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN OPEN MEETINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING A PENALTY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. CHRIS.
>> THESE ARE THE UTILITY RIGHTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT WE JUST APPROVED.
THEY'RE ALSO THE RATES THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US BY [INAUDIBLE] AS PART OF THE FIVE-YEAR OF WATER AND WASTEWATER FINANCIAL PLAN.
[NOISE] BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, FOR A PERSON THAT PURCHASES AN AVERAGE OF 5,000 GALLONS, THAT PERSON'S BILL WILL GO UP ABOUT SEVEN DOLLARS.
IT'S TWO DOLLARS ON THE WATER SIDE, FIVE DOLLARS ON THE SEWER SIDE TO COVER THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND TO BRIDGE THAT GAP AND TO COMPLY WITH THE PLANS WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, IT ACTUALLY LISTS THE ACTUAL RATES.
IT'S ABOUT A DOLLAR INCREASE ON THE BASIC RATE AND 31 CENTS INCREASE FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER ON THE RATE FOR 1,000 GALLONS OVER 2,000 GALLONS.
THIS IS JUST TO UPDATE THE RATES TO EQUAL WHAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED IN THE BUDGET.
>> THANK YOU, CHRIS. ONCE AGAIN, GUYS, I BELIEVE, GENTLEMEN, THIS IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED AS A PLAN MOVING FORWARD.
I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS, ONCE AGAIN, PR IT TO LET THE RESIDENT KNOW THERE IS AN INCREASE.
LET THEM KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING THE INCREASE AND WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE HAD TO DO THE INCREASE.
ONCE AGAIN, IT'S PERCEPTION, IT'S INFORMATION.
BECAUSE WE'LL ALL GET THE PHONE CALL.
WE'RE GOING TO GET THE PHONE CALL FROM EVERYBODY.
>> WE HAVE A ONE-PAGE SUMMARY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON A WEBSITE BUT WE CAN MOVE THAT UP TO THE FRONT AGAIN SO THAT IT'S RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP.
>> WE'LL LET TOWNSEND DO THE TIKTOK VIDEO OF THIS ONE.
>> ALSO WHEN THE RATES GOING UP, I GOT TO DO IT. [LAUGHTER]
>> GET WITH TRAVIS AND GET THAT DONE.
>> NO ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE?
>> IT'S NOT REQUIRED ON THIS ONE.
>> THE ORDINANCE IS ON PAGE 332.
>> COUNCIL, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE?
>> WELL, I WILL START OFF BY SAYING WE STILL DISAGREE ON THE WAY THAT THIS COMES ABOUT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY WE'RE INCREASING OUR RATES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WATER AND SEWER ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND ACTIONED NOW AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAVE IS AGING AND FALLING APART, IT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.
WITH THAT SAID, I WILL MOVE THAT WE ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 20210928-18.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE UTILITY RATE TABLES IN THE FEE SCHEDULE IN THE CONSOLIDATED SCHEDULE OF FEES OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND REVISING THEM,
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PROVIDING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE RATES TO BE CHARGED FOR UTILITY SERVICES BY THE CITY OF ANGLETON. I'M LEAVING IT AT THAT.>> HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? [NOISE]
>> WE HAD A LAUNCH AND LEARN TODAY WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS.
THEY TALKED ABOUT THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE, SO IT'S A NEW UNFUNDED MANDATE, THAT'S COMING DOWN THAT WE HAVE TO NOT ONLY DO AN INVENTORY OF OUR LEAD AND COPPER IN OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN TO DEAL WITH IT.
FOR EXAMPLE, AS PAPER WORK GOES THROUGH AND FIXES A BROKEN WATER LINE, THEY'LL ADDRESS THAT.
BUT IT'S GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PHYSICALLY HAVE AN ACTION PLAN, AND GET AFTER IT.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF FIGURING OUT WHAT THAT MEANS, LIKE HOW MANY RESIDENCES ARE AFFECTED, IT'S 1980S AND BEFORE.
AS WE TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE, I'LL TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION TOO, HOW DO WE GET AFTER, HOW MANY SERVERS LINES OUT THERE AND THEN HOW DO WE HELP OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY'LL BE MANDATED TOO TO GET RID OF THAT IN THEIR HOUSES.
>> IS THAT STATE LEVEL OR FEDERAL LEVEL?
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ECHO SOMETHING THAT JOHN SAID AND THAT'S ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO LIGHT BY CITY MANAGER, MR. WHITTAKER.
NO, IT'S JUST THAT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS AND NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO IMPOSE A HIGHER FEE, BUT AT SAME TIME YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
I THINK THIS COUNSEL HAS BEEN GOOD AND THIS MAYOR AND THIS CITY MANAGER ABOUT ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PASSED UPON IN THE PAST, PASSED P-A-S-S-E-D, PASSED UPON IN THE PAST, P-A-S-T. LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION BUT WE GOT TO DO IT.
>> YES, SIR. THAT'S WHY THEY PAY US THE BIG BUCKS TO SIT UP HERE.
>> I JUST WANT TO ALSO REITERATE PART OF WHAT JOHN SAID. WE'RE RAISING THE RATES TO IMPROVE AND MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE FOR OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS.
THIS IS NOT FOR NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESIDENTS, THIS IS TO CONTINUE A QUALITY SERVICE.
>> TEN-FOUR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, I'M GO TO CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[OVERLAPPING] A NOTE CAME ACROSS.
>> THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, MR. CHRIS, AND STAFF.
THANK YOU ALL FOR GOING THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS, IT WAS PAINLESS. WE APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU, MR. WHITAKER, TO YOUR LEADERSHIP WITH THE STAFF AND GETTING US A BUDGET AND TO GET US ON TRACK HERE.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WE'LL MOVE ON.
>> SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, MR. WHITAKER, I'D LIKE TO FIND THE TCEQ MANDATE SO WE COULD HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO READ JUST WHAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN DON'T HAVE TO GUT THEIR ENTIRE WATER SYSTEM IN THEIR HOMES THAT ARE MADE OF COPPER BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK THE TOWN.
NOT YOU. THEY'RE GOING TO BREAK THE TOWN.
>> YES, THEY'RE WAITING ON THE FINAL LEGISLATION ON THAT AND WE DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT TO PRIVATE RESIDENTS, BUT AS FAR AS THE CITY, WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES AND THEN WE NEED TO ALERT RESIDENTS THAT THEY HAVE ISSUES WITHIN THEIR HOUSES.
>> JUST YEARS AGO, IT WAS A COMMON PRACTICE OF CONSTRUCTION, ESPECIALLY WHEN LAYING CAST IRON PIPE THAT THEY HAD PARTS OF MOLTEN LEAD THAT THEY SEALED THE JOINTS WITH, AND THAT WAS A PRACTICE.
THERE ARE STILL THOSE PIPES IN THE GROUND, PROBABLY 100 PLUS YEARS OLD.
[20. Discussion and possible action on projects for the American Rescue Plan Act funds]
>> THANK YOU. I HAD A REQUEST COME ACROSS THE DESK, AND IN THE SAKE OF STAFF TIME AND WHATNOT, WE'RE GOING TO BOUNCE TO NUMBER 20 AND THEN COME BACK TO 19.
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SORRY, MR. PETERSON. YOU'RE GOING TO BE LAST TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BOUNCE TO NUMBER 20.DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON PROJECTS FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS. MS. PATTY.
IT'S NICE TO BE UP HERE VISITING WITH YOU ALL, AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME MONEY SITTING AT THE BANK THAT WE NEED TO SPEND, BUT THERE ARE SOME VERY SPECIFIC RULES WE HAVE TO FOLLOW ABOUT SPENDING THIS MONEY.
I THINK THAT YOU HAVE SEEN EXAMPLE USES OF FUNDS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PUBLISHED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY.
WE'RE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE FEDS ON THIS.
WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH [INAUDIBLE].
THEY'VE BEEN ASKED TO STAND DOWN, SO THE RULES ARE PRETTY STRICT.
WE HAVE A DEADLINE TO SUBMIT THE THINGS, THE ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE FUNDED WITH THIS MONEY, EVEN THOUGH WE ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY, WE CAN'T SPEND IT UNTIL OUR LIST OF PROJECTS IS APPROVED BY THEM.
WE DON'T WANT TO SUBMIT THAT FINAL LIST UNTIL WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM YOU ALL ON WHAT THOSE ITEMS WILL BE.
EVEN ONCE OUR LIST IS APPROVED, WE CAN STILL DISCUSS HOW MUCH GOES TO WHAT PROJECTS, SO NOW WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT LISTS OF PROJECTS.
IN THAT PRELIMINARY COMMUNICATION WITH TREASURY, I HAVE LISTED THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. LIFT STATION, SEWER LINES, CHENANGO WATER TANK, THE ANGLETON OPS COMPLEX, SOLAR LIGHTS, NEW SIDEWALKS, PARKS IMPROVEMENTS, DOWNTOWN WI-FI, AND THE POSSIBLE USE OF SOME OF THOSE FUNDS FOR A GRANT MATCH ON THE GRANT WE HAVE PENDING WITH [INAUDIBLE] FOR OUR DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK INITIATIVE.
NOW, IF YOU HAPPEN TO COMPARE THAT LIST WITH THE EXAMPLE OF USES OF FUNDS, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE A TIGHT FIT, NO PROBLEM, AND SOME OF THEM THERE MIGHT BE MORE NEGOTIATION AND WE MAY BE DECLINED, BUT THIS IS THE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE SUBMITTED.
IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THEM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
WHEN YOU'RE READY TO APPROVE THE LIST, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR SUBMITTAL TO TREASURY.
>> WE WORK THIS THROUGH THE STAFF, AND AGAIN, IF YOU GO DOWN TO YOUR, I THINK IT'S THIRD PAGE, WE CROSS-REFERENCE WITH THE GUIDANCE AND REGULATORY SO WE COULD SHOW YOU AND SHOW THEM THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING DIRECTION AND WE'RE NOT JUST PUTTING UP PROJECTS THAT DON'T MATCH THE REQUIREMENTS.
WE TRY TO TAKE SOME OF THE EARLIER GUIDANCE WE'VE HAD FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.
WE'RE SEEKING GUIDANCE BECAUSE AS PATTY SAID, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THIS, AND IT WAS A SHORT FUSE DEAL FOR APPROVAL.
>> I'M GOING TO JUMP RIGHT TO BATES PARK TRAIL.
WHAT ARE WE THINKING THERE? WHAT IS IT?
>> WHAT I SUBMITTED IN A PRELIMINARY COMMUNICATION WITH TREASURY IS PARKS IMPROVEMENTS.
MEGAN, IF YOU WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE BATES PARK TRAILS IDEA THAT YOU HAD.
[OVERLAPPING] I KNOW WE HAD A TRAIL RECOMMENDATION AT LAKESIDE PARK, BUT I DO NOT RECALL A BATES PARK TRAIL.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT IN ADDITION TO A FUTURE TPW GRANT WE WERE CONSIDERING, BUT I THINK THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WERE FOR THE INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND FOR LAKESIDE PARK IS WHAT I RECALL SPECIFICALLY.
>> THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. WHAT'S BATES PARK TRAIL?
>> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. I'M SORRY.
>> WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PLACE FOR A WHILE.
>> THAT'S WHY I THINK IN THE ACTUAL SUMMARY THAT I SUBMITTED, IT JUST SAYS PARKS IMPROVEMENT.
>> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC SO WE'RE NOT. [OVERLAPPING]
IF IT'S FINE ENOUGH TO PASS WHATEVER FEDERAL SCRUTINY THAT I'M AT, SHOULD WE NOT HAVE AN IDEA THOUGH,
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WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT? I SUSPECT YOU CAN'T JUST TREAT IT AS A SLUSH FUND AND JUST LIKE, "OH, WELL, I WAS JUST GOING THERE AND GETTING WHENEVER WE NEEDED.">> WELL, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FROM US.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT.
>> I KNOW BATES PARK NEEDS SOME SOFTBALL LIGHTS.
>> YEAH AND IT NEEDS A DITCH FILL THEN.
>> WELL IT HAS TO MATCH UP WITH SOME OF THESE CRITERIA.
I THINK WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME EQUITY-FOCUSED SERVICES AND ALSO TO REBUILD SOME PUBLIC SECTOR CAPACITY AND THERE WAS SOME TRAVEL ALSO SPEED OF RECOVERY OF IMPLEMENTED INDUSTRIES INCLUDING TRAVEL, TOURISM, AND HOSPITALITY.
WE WERE TRYING TO MAYBE PUT SOME PARKS IN THERE TO SEE IF THAT MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE.
>> I'M OKAY WITH PARKS, I DON'T REMEMBER THERE EVER BEING A SPECIFIC NEED FOR A BATES PARK NEEDING A NEW TRAIL. IF THERE IS A.
>> I THINK WHEN JOHN SPOKE TO THE DITCH WE HAVE DISCUSSED THERE BEING A PATHWAY IF WE FILL THE DITCH AND CREATING PATHWAYS FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE COMPLEX.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT WOULD BE THAT LITTLE OF AMOUNT IS THE.
>> BECAUSE WE NEED A COVERT OR SOMETHING AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE UP THERE.
>> COVERT AND FILDER AND THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO CONNECT THE TRAIL TO THE PARKING LOT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE. I KNOW.
>> THAT WHAT I BELIEVE THAT WAS.
>> I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A TRAIL BECAUSE UNLESS Y'ALL ARE BUILDING A NEW TRAIL THAT I WAS UNAWARE OF.
>> MY COMMENT WAS THE SAFETY ISSUE OF THE PEOPLE, THE SEAGULL ONTO THE SOFTBALL GAME THAT FALL IN THE DITCH IN THE PARK ALONG THE SIDE.
I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TRAILS, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO FILL IN THE DITCH AND YOU CAN PUT GREEN GRASS ON TOP OF THERE AND IT'LL BE FINE TO ME BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE SIDEWALKS GOING INTO THE.
>> IT'S NOT A BIG EXPENSE THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THIS TYPE OF FUND BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THIS IS MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COMPLETE IT.
>> OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ONE IS, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE WI-FI FOR DOWNTOWN? I GOT PEOPLE ASKING ONLINE.
IT'S REALLY GEARED TOWARD TOURISM AND SO THE CONCEPT WE HAVE IS TO PUT WI-FI ON 280B FROM CITY HALL UP PAST THE COURTHOUSE.
ALSO IT COVER VETERANS PARKS WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS.
IT WOULD COVER THE NEW COUNTY PARKING LOTS AND IN THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND SO THAT'S THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE WI-FI NODES ON THE BUILDINGS OR THE POWER POLES.
THEN IT'S ALSO OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE CONTRACT WHICH EVENTUALLY WE LIKE TO JUST LIKE WE DO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
WHEN YOU LOG INTO THE PUBLIC WI-FI LIKE WE SAW SIGNS UP IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
THIS WI-FI SPONSORED BY SO AND SO AND THEN EVERY HOUR, HALF-HOUR YOU'RE ON, IT ROTATES THROUGH A DIFFERENT AD AND SPONSORSHIP.
EVENTUALLY, THERE'S NO UPFRONT COST TO PUTTING THE WI-FI IN AND THEN THE ADVERTISEMENT WOULD FUND THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THIS PROGRAM.
BUT GREATLY BENEFITS TOURISM, IT BENEFITS CONCERTS AT THE PARK, PART OF CHRISTMAS AND IN GENERAL, YOU SIT THE COURTHOUSE.
>> THE WAY IT WORKS WITH THIS PARTICULAR FUND IS IT'LL FOCUS ON HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES WITHOUT ACCESS AND THOSE WITH CONNECTIONS THAT DON'T PROVIDE MENTALLY ACCEPTABLE SPEEDS AND IT'LL ALSO DELIVER RELIABLE SERVICE.
IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
>> JUST BEEN AT DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, THAT'S WHAT WE THINK WAS SOME OF THE BEST USE OF OUR MONEY IS FOR.
>> I'M OKAY. I'M LISTENING TO WHATEVER Y'ALL SUGGEST BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UTILIZING THE MINE THE BEST WAY WE CAN. THAT'S ALL.
>> STAFF FEELS LIKE IT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND OPINION.
>> I'M JUST AFRAID OF THE INVESTMENT
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THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO USE IT FOR THE MOST PART BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE HAVE THEIR CELL PHONES THAT ALREADY HAVE 5G OR LTE SERVICE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE NEEDING WI-FI.>> I WILL SAY I'VE BEEN TO THE COURTHOUSE ON THE WEEKENDS.
I GUESS IT MUST BE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE THAT THE COURTHOUSE FEEDS SOME WI-FI BECAUSE PEOPLE SIT THERE IN THE PUBLIC OFFICIALS PARKING LOT AND ACCESS THE INTERNET AND THEY MUST HAVE THE PASSWORD AS WELL.
IT MUST BE SOMEWHERE ON THE INTERWEBS BUT.
>> THEY TOLD US THEY DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC WI-FI, THEY HAVE AN INTERNAL ONE.
>> THEY HAVE AN INTERNAL WI-FI THAT APPARENTLY REACHES TO THE PARKING LOT THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO ACCESS BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO RANDOMLY PARK THERE.
MAKES NO SENSE WHY WOULD WE PARK AT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY SPOT OR IN THE SHERRIFFS OF SPOT OR IN THE.
>> CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA ON THE SIDEWALKS AND THE STREETLIGHTS? THE 200,000 SOLAR LIGHTS.
HOW MANY STREETS DO YOU THINK WE CAN GET OUT OF THAT?
>> START WITH THE LIGHTS FIRST.
HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT ON OUR STREET LIGHTS ON WHAT THE FIRST 4, 5. HAVE WE DONE THAT?
>> WELL THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 45 LIGHTS AND THAT WOULD BE TIMES $2,700 A PIECE.
>> YES. WE JUST SPENT $80,000 ON THE.
>> OUR STANDARD AND THAT WAS HOW MANY LIGHTS?
>> WE NEED HOW MANY PER STREET TYPICALLY?
>> WELL, OTHER THAN SOUTHSIDE WHICH IS A LONG STREET, WE'RE USUALLY AT ABOUT BETWEEN 7-11.
>> PLUS WE'RE GETTING SOLAR STREET ART REQUEST FROM ROSA.
>> OH, WE'RE GETTING TONS OF THEM.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS.
>> NOT FOR ALL THE STREET BUT I'M GETTING INDIVIDUAL ONES LIKE, "HEY, WE JUST WANT ONE LIGHT IN THIS AREA."
>> I ACTUALLY HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF PETITIONS, THEY ARE FULLY SIGNED.
I WAS GOING TO SHARE IT WITH YOU WHEN WE MEET NEXT WEEK BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT THEM IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THEM.
BUT JEFF TOLD ME JUST THIS MORNING WE'D BEEN TRYING TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY HOW MANY ELECTRIC STREET LIGHTS WE HAVE IN ANGLETON.
THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING FIGURE FOR YOU TO KNOW AND IT'S AROUND 400 WHICH DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT, RIGHT?
>> THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> ABSOLUTELY. ESPECIALLY IN OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> AGAIN THIS IS THE FOLLOW, THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN US ABOUT SMOOTH EXTREMES, ABOUT CRIME WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND SOME OF THOSE.
AGAIN, IT DOESN'T GO VERY FAR.
SINCE IT DIDN'T MAKE THE BUDGET, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN.
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA, AND THE SIDEWALKS.
>> WELL, WHAT WE HAD IN MIND HERE FOR SIDEWALKS WHERE THE SIDEWALKS IMMEDIATELY AROUND SCHOOLS BECAUSE IT HAS TO TIE BACK TO THAT.
IT REALLY HAS TO IMPROVE THE AREAS AROUND SCHOOLS VERSUS JUST THE SIDEWALK PROJECT.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH SIDEWALK WE COULD BUY FOR $100,000 BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DOLLAR FIGURES FOR EACH OF THESE PROJECTS UNTIL WE KNOW WHICH PROJECTS WE'VE GOT.
DO WE DIVIDE IT BY 2 PROJECTS, DO WE DIVIDE IT BY ALL OF THEM, SO WE DON'T KNOW YET.
>> WHERE IS CEDAR AGAIN? HOW MUCH WAS CEDAR?
>> TO DO JUST A SIDEWALK FROM DOWNING TO VALDERAS.
>> THERE WAS A LOT OF DRAINAGE INVOLVED IN THAT.
>> IF WE COULD TAKE THE DRAINAGE OUT, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> WE COULD DO A LOT. IT WAS 100,000, PROBABLY SOMETHING ALONG OF.
>> YOU'RE LOOKING BACK $9 SQUARE FOOT.
>> YOU'RE LOOKING AT FIVE SQUARE FOOT.
>> 4-5 DOLLARS A. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S NOT INCLUDING CAR BRANDS AND. [OVERLAPPING]
>> FIFTY DOLLARS FOR RUNNING FOOD 2 TO 4,000.
WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY INVOLVE ENGINEERING IN THAT EITHER.
>> IT'S NOT 2,000' SO YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO ALMOST HALF A MILE.
>> YEAH. WE DO HAVE THE BIG PROJECTS LIKE HENDERSON SIDEWALK AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS LIKE PARRISH STREET AND KIGER AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AND GETTING WALKABILITY TO SOME OF THE AREAS.
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THAT'S WHY I WAS THINK OF.>> OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND COST AND HAVE YOU ALL TELL US WHAT DO YOU US TO DO.
>> YEAH. I'M GOOD WITH BOTH SOLAR LIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS COMING.
>> I'LL ACTUALLY TAKE THE 35,000 AND WI-FI AND MOVE IT TO MOTHERS.
PEOPLE ARE WALKING UP AND DOWN, DOWNTOWN AND ANGLETON ON THEIR PHONES.
I DON'T THINK IF YOU COULD TARGET SOME RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN TOWN THAT YOU'D KNOW PROBABLY MADE BETTER WI-FI SERVICE.
I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT WOULD BE.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH SIDE DIVISION I'M TALKING ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S BOUND TO BE SUMMARIES IN TOWN THAT NEED. [OVERLAPPING].
>> LIKE I DID. BUT MY CONCERN IS THEN YOU'VE MADE NEW.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO PICK AND THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.
>> THE INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE TO ME.
I'M GOING TO START FROM SOME HOLE SOMEWHERE.
>> [NOISE] THE HUB MAY BE RIGHT HERE IN TOWN, DOWNTOWN.
>> THIS CATEGORY WAS BORN OUT OF THE PROBLEMS WE SAW WITH COVID AND KIDS HAVING TO STAY HOME AND DO SCHOOL, PEOPLE HAVING TO STAY HOME AND WORK.
WHEN THEY DISCOVERED A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS OR RELIABLE ACCESS.
>> I GUESS IT'S JUST A LEGITIMATE DEBATE, SPEAKING OF JOHN, WHAT'S MORE NEEDED, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND SOLAR LIGHTS, VERSUS THE EMERGING PUBLIC NEED FOR WI-FI, NOT SAYING IT'S NOT.
IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD ARGUMENT YOU CAN MAKE THAT IT'S BECOMING MORE OF A PUBLIC NECESSITY BECAUSE THE WAY BUSINESS AND EDUCATION AND THINGS ARE DEVELOPING.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE READY TO GET THERE YET, BUT WE CAN GET STARTED SOMEWHERE, SOME POINT.
>> WHERE SOME OF THE IDEA CAME FROM WAS WHEN CHRIS AND I WENT TO [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY HAD DOWNTOWN WI-FI.
NOW, WHO USES IT? I DON'T KNOW.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF VISITORS WHEN THE COURTHOUSE STARTS TO EXPAND, THERE'S CLIENTELE THERE.
WE HAVE ALL OF OUR EVENTS, THE DOWNTOWN WHETHER IT'S THE PARADE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE MARKET [OVERLAPPING] OR WHATEVER.
MAYBE THEY DO HAVE WI-FI AND MAYBE THEY HAVE ONLY THREE GIGS THEY CAN GET A MONTH, COME SIT IN THE PARK AND USE THE WI-FI.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE, PLUS WE WERE GOING TO UTILIZE CITY BUILDINGS FOR TOWERS VERSUS TRYING, WHEN YOU GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU GOT TO FIND SOME I PUT THAT NODULE ON OR WHATEVER WIDGET'S CALLED.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT COUNTY COOPERATION IN THIS.
BECAUSE I GET THAT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE IS IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON, BUT WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE TO SITUATE, WHICH IS CONTROLLED BY THE COUNTY.
I'D RATHER USE VETERANS PARK OR WHATEVER IN DOWNTOWN, WE OWN IT.
>> THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT WOULD BE ON THE FIRE STATION.
ONE WOULD BE ON CITY HALL, ONE WOULD BE ON THE POTENTIALLY AGAIN, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
THAT'S GOING TO GET BILL. AGAIN, THAT'S A FOUR-STORY PLATFORM FOR WI-FI.
IT'S PROVIDING THAT BIG ZONE OF DOWNTOWN.
>>YOU CAN DO ALL THAT FOR $32,000?
>> IT'S 25 FOR THE HARDWARE AND THEN IT'S ABOUT EIGHT GRAND A YEAR FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.
>> THEN IT BECOMES A BUDGET ITEM EVERY YEAR THAT WE WOULD PAY.
>> WHAT WE'RE PLANNING IS DUE IN THE ADVERTISING LIKE ALL OTHER CITIES DO.
SOON AS YOU LOG ON AND YOU'RE THE LEAD, WHATEVER YOU PAY MORE TO GET YOUR NAME OUT THERE AS, VERDE SOUTH [INAUDIBLE], NEIL INSURANCE, WHATEVER IT IS.
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THEN AGAIN, FOR THOSE THAT STAY ON FOR A LONG TIME, IT'S REPEAT AD, SO THE NEXT 30 MINUTES IT'S SOMEONE ELSE AND NEXT 30 MINUTES IT'S SOMEONE ELSE.THEY'RE ALL PAYING TO PAY DOWN THAT MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS.
BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING THAT CAPTURED AUDIENCE OF SOMEONE LOGIN ON FOR WI-FI, WHETHER THEY'RE AT THE COURTHOUSE OR A PARKING LOT OR ARE VISITING A SHOP DOWNTOWN.
>> IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD TALK TO THE COUNTY ABOUT THEM PROVIDING WI-FI IN CONJUNCTION WITH OURS? THAT WAS AN EMAIL THAT YOU SENT US.
>> YES, WE'VE STARTED THAT DISCUSSION, AND THEY ARE INVOLVED.
>> THAT WOULD SAVE US AND MONEY WHERE IT MAYBE WE CAN DEVELOP AND WE'D STILL WORK IN THE SAME AREA, NOT SAME GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION, BUT MAYBE THEY HELP.
THEY WOULD GAIN, THAT WOULD BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WANT TO BENEFIT FROM IT. THEY WOULD BENEFIT.
>> WE STARTED THOSE DISCUSSIONS. WE HAVEN'T.
>> IT SEEMS TO ME THEY'RE GOING TO BENEFIT.
THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONTRIBUTION.
>> I TAKE IT LIKE, YOU GO THE AIRPORT, YOU GET AIRPORT GUEST, YOU GO TO MINUTE MAID PARK, THERE'S MINUTE MAID PARK'S GUEST WI-FI.
IF YOU WANT TO USE IT, NOT USE YOUR PHONE TIME.
BUT YEAH, IF YOU CAN MAYBE DO SOME PARTNERSHIP, BRING THAT COST DOWN A LITTLE BIT, THAT WOULD BE OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> I'M JUST GOING TO BACK UP THAT, THAT GOES BACK TO THE DEBATE AGAIN.
WHAT IS MORE OF A NECESSITY AT THIS TIME, PUBLIC UTILITY WISE, WHETHER ITS STREETS, SIDEWALKS OR LIGHTS, OR WI-FI?
>> WATER'S INCLUDED TOO; LIFTS STATIONS, SEWER LINES.
>> I THINK I'M PLEASED WITH THE $1.5 MILLION THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED TO THOSE SITUATIONS.
I KNOW WE HAVEN'T VERBALIZED IT AND PEOPLE CAN'T SEE IT ONLINE OR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THERE IS JUST FOR REPUBLICAN MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS THE LIFT STATIONS AND $500 THOUSAND TOWARDS SEWER LINES.
WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES AS WELL. I APPRECIATE THAT.
I KNOW NOW WE'RE GETTING IN A MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT, ONLY LOOKING AT COMPARATIVELY $32,000 VERSUS $500,000, JUST A MUCH SMALLER PERCENTAGE.
BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD STILL WANT TO MAXIMIZE AND GET THE MOST RETURN ON OUR VALUE.
THAT'S ALL, I'M NOT SAYING ONE PERSON'S RIGHT OR WRONG.
I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A DEBATE. THAT'S ALL.
>> WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION DO YOU MEAN? YOU WANT US TO GO ROLL CALL ON EACH ITEM OR DO YOU WANT US TO JUST AND I THINK WE'VE ALL GIVEN OURS.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE LIST THAT YOU DO NOT WANT US TO SUBMIT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY AS A POSSIBLE EXPENDITURE FROM THIS MONEY?
>> I SAY THE WI-FI NEEDS TO BE ROLLED INTO THE SIDEWALKS AT THIS POINT.
>> THE STREET THAT NEEDS TO BE OVERLAID OR SOMETHING.
>> I'M NOT SURE WE CAN DO STREETS, BASED ON [INAUDIBLE]
>> IT'S NOT ON HERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WOULD YOU GET MORE OF THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND TRYING TO APPEASE ME HERE, I APPRECIATE IT.
WOULD YOU GET MORE VALUE OUT OF, SAY, $35,000 IN SIDEWALKS OR $35,000 IN SOLAR LIGHTS?
>> I WOULD SUGGEST SOLAR LIGHTS.
>> THAT'S WELL OVER 13 SOLAR LIGHTS.
>> I'VE READ AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THIS FUND.
THEY ARE BEING VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT IT.
I THINK THAT SIDEWALKS ARE VERY SOFT ASK, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND GOING IN, I JUST WANT TO SET A REALISTIC EXPECTATION.
>> NO, WE NEED SIDEWALKS, AND SO EVEN IF IT'S FIXING UP OLD SIDEWALKS OR IF IT ALLOWS FOR I THINK THAT'S A GOOD USE OF THIS MONEY.
I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE A TOUGH TIME ARGUING THAT IT WASN'T FOR A PUBLIC NEED.
>> I SEE [INAUDIBLE] IS ROLLING THE WI-FI, SOLAR LIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS. IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT WE WILL SUBMIT THAT AND GET FEEDBACK
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OBVIOUSLY [INAUDIBLE] AND WE MAY HAVE TO ADJUST AT SOME POINT.>> SURE, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY COME BACK WITH A CLEARER REPORT ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND HOW TO DIVIDE THAT UP ONCE WE GET OUR LIST APPROVED BY TREASURY DEPARTMENT.
[19. Discussion and possible action on the City’s water and sanitary sewer system.]
SO I WILL DO AS YOU REQUESTED.THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL RIDE ALONG.
WE ARE DOWN TO THE LAST ITEM, NUMBER 19, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CITY'S WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM.
>> I WANT TO PREFERENCE WHAT JOHN IS SAYING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WALK THROUGH ALL THIS DIRECTLY.
BUT THERE'S COUPLE TOPICS THAT WE ARE SEEKING A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE ON.
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT LEAVING THE OLD SOUTH SIDE ELEVATED STORAGE TOWER IN OPERATION.
WE HAVE MORE ELEVATED CAPACITY, AND SO WE CAN CHANGE THAT OUT OF THE CONTRACT, WE CAN DO IT LATER, WE CAN KEEP THE TOWER IN OPERATION.
BUT REALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THEN WE NEED TO SEEK A NEW TOWER.
WE GOT A WORKING GROUP ON WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR A NEW SITE, AND SO THAT'LL COME TO YOU ALL LATER.
PART OF THE REASON FOR THIS DISCUSSION IS, I ACTUALLY SHOWN AN EMAIL TODAY, [INAUDIBLE] RANCH MAYBE BACK IN PLAY, ANOTHER DEVELOPER, BIGGER SIZE LOTS, AND WE'RE AT THE LIMITED CONNECTION PIECE.
WE'VE GOT A MODULAR HOME, PARK THAT WANTS TO DEVELOP.
WE'VE GOT TWO POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THERE ON 523.
BUT ALSO WE HAVE VIRTUALLY NO SEWER CAPACITY, SO WE NEED A LITTLE GUIDANCE AS A STAFF.
IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND SAY YES, AT SOME POINT, I'LL TELL THEM YES TO APPROACH THE COUNCIL AND WHATEVER, BUT THAT MEANS WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING AND I KNOW, AGAIN, WITH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WE'RE NOT READY TO MAKE DECISIONS YET AND WE OWE YOU SOME INFORMATION.
BUT AGAIN LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON HOW WE TREAT DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET PICKY RIGHT NOW ON THAT. SO JOHN.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
I PROVIDED A PACKET THAT GOES OVER SEVERAL THINGS.
LIKE CHRIS SAID, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO DEEP INTO IT.
WE'VE BEEN OVER THESE NUMBERS ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.
I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THEM REAL QUICKLY.
NUMBER ONE, WE TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT CONNECTION COUNTS, WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE GOT IT, HOW WE BACKED INTO IT, HOW WE VERIFIED THAT WITH THE METER REPLACEMENTS THAT JEFF IS CURRENTLY DOING.
SO WE DO HAVE A GOOD SOLID COUNT ON OUR CONNECTIONS.
WE'RE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT PROJECTS THE CITY IS DOING WITH FREEDOM PARK, THE SOUTH-SIDE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THAT CHRIS DISCUSSED, AND THE BOOSTER PUMP REPLACEMENT AT HENDERSON PLANT.
THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL CAPACITIES ON ALL THREE OF THOSE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE REMAINING CAPACITY AND THE LIMITING THINGS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY COMING IN THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR IS A LITTLE OVER 2,300 ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS.
WHEN YOU START TAKING THAT IN, IT REDUCES YOUR AVAILABLE CONNECTION COUNT TO AROUND 1,400.
THE MEMO WALKS YOU THROUGH IT PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, PRETTY CLEANLY.
THE SHENANGO WATER PLANT, WE RECEIVED THE SURVEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO A SITE VISIT.
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT ONE RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE ALSO REPLOTTING THE SITE.
THE SITE IS ACTUALLY MADE UP OF FOUR DIFFERENT TRACKS.
WE'RE GOING TO COMBINE THAT TOGETHER, SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT TOO.
THE POTENTIAL WATER WELL, I'VE GOT REAL DETAILED ON THAT.
THERE'S SOME THINGS I WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW ABOUT THE PREVIOUS WATER WELL WAS THERE, ABOUT THE TESTING FOR ARSENIC.
THE LIMITS HAVE BEEN LOWERED SINCE AROUND THE 1990S FROM WHAT THEY WERE IN THE '60S WHEN THAT WELL WAS THERE.
WE'LL GO THROUGH HOW THAT SYSTEM WOULD BE SET UP, HOW THEY WOULD DO IT.
IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THAT AND I THINK I LAID IT OUT PRETTY GOOD.
WE DID LOOK AT DIFFERENT SITES.
EVERYBODY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF WE PUT ANOTHER ONE AT SHENANGO.
THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THERE FOR WHEN YOU DO YOUR BUFFER ZONES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
TALKING WITH THE AREA LOCAL DRILLER, THE WATER QUALITY IS REAL POOR ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN,
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RECOMMEND STAYING IN THE MIDDLE AND TO THE NORTH SIDE WHERE YOUR WELLS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PLACED IN THOSE AREAS.SO MAKE SENSE WHY THEY WERE PLACED THERE.
OLD TIMERS KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
ALSO, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
I GAVE YOU SOME EXHIBITS WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING, POTENTIALLY SOMEWHERE NEAR FRONTIER ELEMENTARY AND ANOTHER ONE ON THE CITY'S EXISTING SITE ON 523 [INAUDIBLE] I SHOWED THE PRESSURE ZONES AND A SCHEMATICS OF HOW IT WOULD LOOK AND THE EFFECTS.
IT APPEARS THAT THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO HELP EVERYBODY OUT THE MOST, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENTS IS COMING FROM IS THE ONE BY FRONTIER ELEMENTARY.
THAT ONE'S GOING TO HAVE THE BIGGEST PRESSURE EFFECT OF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENTS IS COMING IN RIGHT NOW.
OTHER ONE I WANTED TO TALK TO EVERYONE ABOUT WAS BWA HAS RECENTLY REACHED OUT TO JEFF AND PROVIDED A LETTER, I'VE [INAUDIBLE] THE LETTER INTO THE PACKET.
BWA HAS FOUND AN EXTRA 0.5 MGD OF WATER THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE TO THE JAMIESON PLANT RIGHT NOW.
IF THE CITY IS LOOKING TO PURCHASE THAT, JEFF, I BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY WANT TO DO.
CAME UP WITH THE COST FROM WHAT WAS PROVIDED.
THAT WILL COME UP TO RIGHT ABOUT $613,200 A YEAR FOR THAT ADDITIONAL 0.5 WATER TO BE DELIVERED.
ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW BWA, THE LINE THAT SUPPLIES ANGLETON HAS REACHED ITS CAPACITY.
THEY NEED TO HAVE 3.2 MGDS TO SELL IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT REPLACEMENT WITHOUT DRIVING UP THE COST TO ALL THE OTHER PARTNERS IN BWA.
RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE FOUND OTHER PEOPLE WILLING TO PURCHASE 1.2 LEAVING TWO MGD REMAINING IN ORDER TO GET THAT LINE SIZING MOVING FORWARD.
THIS MAY BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON TO SECURE ANOTHER 1.5 FOR FUTURE GROWTH, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO.
BUT YOU HAVE TO RESERVE IT BY MAKING A PAYMENT EVERY YEAR AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT CALCULATION IN HERE TOO.
SO YOU ALL HAVE THAT NUMBER TOO.
THE OTHER ONE IS ON THE NORTHSIDE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, [INAUDIBLE] STATION 44 IS WHAT SERVICES THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY, AND THAT IT IS COMPLETELY ACCOUNTED FOR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AT WINDROSE GREEN.
THERE IS NO MORE AVAILABLE CAPACITY ONCE WINDROSE GREEN BUILDS OUT.
WE'RE HAVING CONSTANT COMMUNICATIONS.
LINDSEY AND CHRIS HAS ALREADY TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT, ESPECIALLY RIGHT THERE AT 35 AND 523, ALL UP AND DOWN 523 TO WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT NORTH SIDE IS, "ARE WE GOING TO PUT A NEW TREATMENT PLAN IN THERE WHICH WOULD SIPHON WATER OR SEWAGE GOING TO THE SOUTH?" WE'LL INCREASE THAT CAPACITY WITH THIS CAPACITY.
ALSO KEEP PUMPING SEWAGE THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.
RIGHT NOW, THE [INAUDIBLE] STATION 44 PUMPS FIVE MILES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF [INAUDIBLE]
>> I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW LONG THE LIFESPAN IS? WE DID THAT LESS THAN 10 YEARS AGO? AROUND 10 YEARS AGO? WHEN WE PUT THAT FORCEMATES THERE?
>> THAT'S A POLYETHYLENE BUT FUSED THAT'S MORE CONTINUOUS PIPE.
>> YOU WERE THE PUMP SHAFT BEFORE YOU WERE THE PIPELINE.
>> THAT'S EVERYTHING IN A NUTSHELL OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH CAPACITY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP AS WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE INTEREST IN THE CITY.
THE CITY IS GETTING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE COME TO THE TABLE, AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND TALKING THAT THEY'VE HEARD THE NORMAL OR SMALLER LOTS, BUT THEY ARE COMING WITH LARGER LOTS NOW.
IT HASN'T SEEMED TO SLOW ANYTHING DOWN.
>> BUT WE'RE ALSO GETTING THE COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL QUESTIONS AND WE'VE GOT SOMEONE TOMORROW THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE DOG TO PURCHASE FOR, AND SAID, "IF WE WANT COMMITMENT OR NOT FROM THE CITY, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUY WATERS TOO [INAUDIBLE] FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT."
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I'M STUCK ON, IF WE GIVE AN ANSWER AND SAY YES AND THEN THEY MOVE FORWARD, LAUNCH DOWN THE ROAD AND THEN WE DECIDE WE'RE NOT.I THINK WE'RE PUTTING OURSELVES IN A LITTLE JEOPARDY.
>> THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, FUNDING, HOW IS THAT COVERED? HOW CAN WE GET DEVELOPERS TO HELP US WITH FUNDING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS? I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. I MEAN, THEY GOT TO DO IT.
IF THERE'S A MECHANISM SOMEWHERE, SO HOW DO WE GET TO THAT? IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO CHOOSE TO GO TOWARD, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RICH, BUT YEAH, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS THERE A MECHANISM THAT CAN HELP US PAY FOR SOME OF THIS?
>> IN THE CASE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THERE'S NO EXISTING WATER SEWER THERE AT THE SITE SO WE WANT THEM TO OBVIOUSLY PAY FOR THAT EXTENSION.
BUT PART 2 IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING TO YOU ALL PRETTY SOON, IS IMPACT FEES.
GET RID OF THE CA FEE, GO TO IMPACT FEE, AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO AGAIN ADDRESS THAT, BUT IT'S A CHICKEN AND EGG THING TOO.
ON THE NORTH SIDE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LOCKED IN DEVELOPMENT.
ONCE WE HAVE AN IMPACT FEE, WE'RE NOT COLLECTING FEES.
BUT IF YOU DON'T START SOMETHING, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BUILT.
IF YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU COLLECT $20 MILLION FOR A NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE STUCK WITHOUT WATER OR WATER SEWER.
>> WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING FEE SO FAR, WE SHOULD BE SEEING SOME MORE FEES COMING TO US.
THOSE FEES THAT WE'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW, ARE THEY ALLOCATED? ARE THEY GOING TO SIT IN RESERVE? DO WE HAVE SOME OF THAT MONEY SITTING THAT HELPS US GET STARTED WITH SOME OF THIS?
>> WE'RE COLLECTING CA FEES WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING FROM THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING IN, BUT THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR $20 MILLION WORTH OF FEES THAT WE COULD SAY LET'S BUILD A NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND IT GETS TOTALLY FUNDED WITHOUT PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE CITY.
>> BUT THE SHORT ANSWER REALLY THOUGH, IS THAT MONEY IS BEING GOING INTO THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET HASN'T IT? IT'S NOT GOING BACK INTO A RESERVE.
>> THERE'S MONEY SITTING INTO IT [OVERLAPPING] WE HAVEN'T TAPPED INTO IT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THOUGHT WE TAPPED INTO IT.
>> WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC USES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ACCOUNT?
>> WHERE IS CHRIS? [BACKGROUND]
>> WELL, GENERALLY THE ANSWER IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR ORDINANCE HAS TO OFFER OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR IMPACT FEES WITHIN THE CITY FOR SPECIFIC PARTS OR WHATEVER THAT ORDINANCE IS, THAT'S HOW YOU CAN SPEND THE MONEY AND FOR YOUR CAPACITY ACQUISITION FEES IN YOUR CODE, SAME THING.
YOU CAN ONLY DO IT AS SET FORTH IN YOUR CODE.
>> THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT THE MONEY WAS FOR THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE, EITHER IMPROVEMENTS OR ADDITIONS.
THAT'S WHY I TOOK THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT IN THIS CASE AGAIN [OVERLAPPING]
>> I REALIZED THE BANK'S NOT REAL BIG RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE NEED, BUT THERE'S A START, AT LEAST TO START WITH SOMETHING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THIS MONEY JUST STARTED ROLLING IN AND WILL CONTINUE TO ROLL IN AS THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS PAY THOSE FEES, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL FOR, HOW DO YOU WANT TO SPEND THOSE FEES OR IF YOU WANT TO SPEND THEM RIGHT NOW?
>> IS IT SMART TO HOLD THOSE FEES FOR AWHILE AND- [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL IT DEPENDS ON [OVERLAPPING].
IF YOU'VE GOT A PROJECT LIKE THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AND YOU'VE GOT $2.4 MILLION IN THERE, OR SOMETHING, THAT'S A GOOD USE OF THE FUNDS.
BUT IF YOU, AGAIN, EYE IT FOR A BIGGER PROJECT OR SOMETHING, THEN YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAVE IT KNOWING THAT YOU'VE GOT DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN.
IF YOU'RE DONE DEVELOPING, THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GOING TO GET, THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU NEED TO SPEND IT ON AND MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
HOW ABOUT WE PROVIDE YOU A REPORT OF WHAT CA FEES ROAD, WHAT'S BEEN PAID TO THIS POINT?
>> YEAH, AND WHAT'S THE FUTURE COMING OUT BASED ON THE BAILMENT THAT WE SOMEWHAT APPROVED.
I LIKE TO SEE THAT DOLLAR, THAT MAY HELP US WITH SOME OF THIS PROJECTS.
BECAUSE EVEN IF WE STARTED TODAY, A WATER TOWERS IS GOING TO TAKE A YEAR PLUS TO GET IT.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, HOW LONG ITS GOING TO GET, BUT TO NEED UTCQ AND ALL OF THAT [OVERLAPPING] IS THAT THREE YEARS? IS THAT THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD?
>> YEAH, EXACTLY. THAT HELPS OUT.
YEAH. I THINK THE BIG QUESTION IS GOING TO BE IS THE FINANCING PLAN,
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HOW DO YOU THINK WE CAN FINANCE IT OTHER THAN MAYBE THROUGH A PEERED, THROUGHOUT SOMETHING ALONG THOSE MEANS AS WELL.>> YEAH. THAT WAS JUST MY TWO CENTS.
I KNOW YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE TONS OF QUESTIONS TOO, I'LL SIT BACK AND LISTEN.
>> MAYOR, KEEP IN MIND, THERE'S THIS LITTLE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL IN CONGRESS RIGHT NOW, AND WE HEARD IN OUR PRESENTATION TODAY FROM FREEZING NICKELS THAT, ALTHOUGH WHO KNOWS IF IT WILL PASS EXACTLY LIKE IT IS, BUT THERE COULD BE ANOTHER VERY LARGE SUM OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
LET'S NOT GIVE UP [LAUGHTER] LET'S BE POSITIVE. [LAUGHTER]
>> I KNOW YOU ARE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
BUT THERE IS OTHER GOVERNMENT FUNDING, FEDERAL FUNDING THAT COULD BE COMING OUR WAY.
>> WE SAT HERE IN 2008, AND WE WERE TOLD, LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS.
AS SOON AS THAT PASSED, WE HAD ABOUT TWO OR THREE STREETS THAT WE HAD DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED AND READY TO GO, AND NEVER SAW ONE CENT.
I DON'T HOLD MY BREATH WHEN IT COMES TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
JUST BECAUSE OF THAT, I LEARNED MY LESSON IN 2008.
>> MY THOUGHT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
WELL, I LIKE A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID AND IDEAS THAT HAD BEEN GIVEN.
HOWEVER, I THINK TOMORROW WE'RE HAVING, IN A TOWN HALL? IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO GET FEEDBACK ON AT THE TOWN HALL FROM PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE PLANNING ANYBODY COME IN AND SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE SOME GUIDANCE ON WAS TALKING ABOUT TAKING IN MORE WATER.
>> ARE THERE ANY GUIDES FROM YOU ALL BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] DEVELOPERS.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I MEAN, CHRIS, WE SHOULD BE ANSWERING TO THE PUBLIC THOUGH. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT OUR WATER ISN'T NECESSARILY ONLY TIED TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, IT'S COMMERCIAL AS WELL, WHICH IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE NEED AND WE WANT.
>> I AGREE. I'M JUST SAYING, I'D HATE TO MAKE AN ANSWER TONIGHT [OVERLAPPING] HAVE A PUBLIC TOWN HALL TOMORROW. THAT'S ALL.
I'M NOT SAYING THE ANSWER IS NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD.
MAYBE NOBODY'S GOING TO BRING UP THIS ISSUE AND THAT'S OKAY.
BUT IT DOES GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE TO ANSWER TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ANGLETON. I DON'T KNOW.
>> AS A CITIZEN, IF I WAS ASKED TO COME TO A TOWN HALL MEETING TO GIVE MY INPUT AND THE COUNCIL MADE A DECISION THAT ADVERSELY AFFECTED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON MY DECISION, THAT I WANTED TO COME UP HERE FOR THE NEXT DAY, I'LL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE UPSET.
THAT'S ALL. I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN TOWN ARE SAYING THIS.
>> WHAT IS THE DECISION THAT HAS BEEN PUT UPON US THIS EVENING?
>> DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BWA GETTING THAT WATER? DO WE WANT TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> AT GROUND OR ELEVATED STORAGE?
>> HE HAS TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THE DEVELOPERS TOMORROW ON WHETHER WE WANT THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR NOT.
YEAH, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SOMEONE SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
I DO REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE IN ANGLETON.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
I LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'VE SAID.
I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THE INFORMATION IS GETTING BACK TO THE DEVELOPERS.
WHERE I THINK MOST OF THE CITY COUNCIL SITS ON DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.
IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT THERE ARE SOME COMMERCIAL PEOPLE SNIFFING AROUND AS WELL.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT AND WE NEED TO OFFSET SOME OF THE TAX BASE.
WE'RE COVERING THE HIGHEST TAX PERCENTAGE AND ALL THAT. BUT I MEAN, AT THE SAME TIME, I MEAN WHY HAVE A OPEN TOWN HALL IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST SOME OF THE FEEDBACK.
>> RIGHT. I'M RAISING AS AN ISSUE SAYING, WE'RE AT A DECISION POINT, OR DECISION POINTS AS THE CITY OF WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE? DO WE WANT TO GROW? DO WE WANT TO HAVE OTHER AMENITIES? DO WE WANT TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL TO OFFSET PROPERTY TAXES AND THOSE THINGS.
THE CONVERSATION TOMORROW, WILL PROBABLY SAY WE CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU SEWER AT THIS TIME.
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I MEAN, WATER PROBABLY, YES.YOU CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD, BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE, BECAUSE WE HAVE CAPACITY, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU AS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT NOT AT THIS TIME.
>> [NOISE] EVEN IF WE DID PROVE SEWERS, AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OUT TOTALLY WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE.
I MEAN, SO FOR THIS PARTIAL DEVELOPER IS WANTING TO BUILD OUT NEXT YEAR.
[OVERLAPPING] WE STILL WON'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT.
>> OKAY. ALL I'M SAYING IS I KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
>> BUT WE HAVE A TOWN HALL TOMORROW, AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO STEP ON UNTIL EVERYBODY, LIKE JOHN STENNING, JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE MY OPINION SEEM AS SOME GREATER THAN ANYBODY ELSE'S.
I GUESS WE GET A VOTE ON IT, BUT I STILL WANT TO TRY TO DO WHAT I THINK IS A FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE.
>> MR. MARK, I'LL DISCREET YOU ARE LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE UNUSED CAPACITY, WINDROSE GREEN HASN'T BEEN BUILT OUT.
AUSTIN COLONY, HE HAS NOT BEEN BUILT OUT.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SHELL GAME IN A SENSE LIKE WE CAN PROMISE YOU SEWER RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU BUILT OUT BEFORE WINDROSE GREEN GETS BUILT OUT, THEN YOU'RE GOOD.
BUT THAT MEANS WE'VE GOT TO GO ACTIVELY PURSUE SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS SO THAT WE CAN GIVE WINDROSE GREEN THEIR SUIT CAPACITY OR AUSTIN COLONY OR WHATEVER IT IS WHEN THAT TIME COMES.
I CAN'T OVER COMMIT TO A DEVELOPER TO SAY, I'M GOING TO PROMISE YOU WINDROSE GREEN'S CAPACITY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ON A PATH YET OR MAY NOT BE ON A PATH TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT.
>> THAT WOULDN'T BE THE WORST IDEA FIRST ONE WANT TO SAY.
JOHN, I NEED YOU TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND ABOUT COUNTS AND STUFF.
YOU'RE READING IT. YOU SAID WE HAVE 8810 CONNECTIONS.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THOSE ARE FLOWING METERS TODAY, OR IS THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS AVAILABLE TO THEM?
>> FLOWING METERS TODAY IS 8810.
>> LET ME ASK YOU, HOW MANY CONNECTIONS AS WE SIT TODAY WITH A BRAND NEW WATER TOWER SITTING OUT THERE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE ON THE GROUND TODAY, HAVE MANY AVAILABLE CONNECTIONS DO WE HAVE?
>> RIGHT NOW IN THIS ROOM. LET'S SEE.
RIGHT ABOUT 1190 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THE THREE IMPROVEMENTS AT FREE VIEW PARK.
>> I KNOW YOU WANT TO SAY THAT, JUST THIS HOLD ON.
IF WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, WE WOULD HAVE 1190 AVAILABLE CONNECTIONS TODAY THAT AREN'T SPOKEN FOR?
>> DOES THIS 1190 INCLUDE AUSTIN COLONY? IS THAT ALREADY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR AUSTIN COLONY OR NOT?
>> WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS THAT YOU-ALL HAVE SAID WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH.
I'M READING THIS, SO YOU ADD THE SOUTH SIDE WATER TOWER, YOU'LL BE UP TO 3690 CONNECTIONS ON FOR USING ELEVATED STORAGE?
>> THAT'S THE GREEN BOX NEXT TO LAST BOX, OKAY AND THEN GREEN CALL.
THAT STILL BECOMES YOUR LIMITING NUMBER WHEN YOU HAVE THE NEW SOUTH SIDE WATER TOWER UP?
>> ITS ON NEXT PAGE, THE 3690.
>> THIS HERE IS WHAT YOUR LIMITING FACTOR IS AND THAT IS YOUR ELEVATED EST [OVERLAPPING]
>> OKAY. TEMPORARILY, THIS IS JUST SOME THROW THAT THERE AND SEE IF IT CAN STICK ON THE WALL.
IF WE WERE TO NOT TEAR DOWN THE EXISTING SOUTH SIDE WATER TOWER,
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THAT WOULD GIVE US ANOTHER 500,000 IN THE AIR? WHICH WILL ACCOUNT FOR ANOTHER POTENTIALLY 500 CONNECTIONS BUT THEN THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE THE LIMITING FACTOR, IT WOULD BE YOUR BOOSTER PUMPING.>> YOU CAN TURN ON THE SOUTH [INAUDIBLE]
>>I'M NOT. YOU'RE RIGHT JEFF, TOTALLY.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD TWO LEAKS SPRUNG OUT THERE.
[NOISE] BUT IF WE WERE TO HOLD ONTO THE WALL SOUTH SIDE WATER TOWER VERY TEMPORARILY, WHILE WE GET THE NEW NORTH TOWER GOING, THEN WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL STORAGE CAPACITY IN THE AIR, WHICH COULD HELP US.
THEN HE SAYS, WE'VE GOT THE NEW TOWER CONSTRUCTED, YOU TEAR THAT DOWN.
WE HAVE A PRICE FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN FOR, WE COULD REDUCE THE SOUTHSIDE WATER TOWER CONTRACT, BUY THAT AND JUST KEEP IT.
THIS IS A DICEY SITUATION I UNDERSTAND BUT IT'S THERE.
>> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS IT STABLE ENOUGH THAT WOULDN'T HURRICANE HITS AND PUSHES THAT THING INTO THE NEW ONE. THAT'S MORE CONCERNING.
>> THEY STAND PRETTY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.
>> WELL, THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING TO KICK A CAN DOWN THE ROAD, KNOWING IT'S GOT TO GET TAKEN DOWN.
>> ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS TO PAY FOR THAT NEW WATER TOWER.
>> NOW THAT TANK IS INSPECTED EVERY YEAR, SO IT'S GOT TO PASS THE INSPECTION.
>> [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] ONCE A YEAR.
>> I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO TO TCEQ BEGGING, JUST TO GIVE US SOME TIME TO GET TO NEW.
>> WHAT DID THE LAST ONE COST US?
>> PLUS ENGINEERING OR WAS THAT THE TOTAL PAY?
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TOTAL PAY.
>> WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ANOTHER THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OUT HERE FOR ANOTHER TOWER.
>> IS THERE ANY INCREASED CAPACITY AT THE GROUNDWATER STORAGE TANK CHENANGO OR WAS IT A MILLION GALLONS BEFORE?
>> IT WAS A MILLION GALLONS BEFORE.
>> THE THREE OPTIONS OF THE MAIN GALLONS, 750 AND 5, [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT WAS ANOTHER THOUGHT TOO.
WE'VE GOT TO TEAR THAT THING DOWN TO BUILD A NEW ONE.
IT PUT US IN ARREARS ON STORAGE.
IF WE COULD JUST KEEP THAT THING UP IN THE AIR FOR A WHILE.
>> TILL WE GET THE GROUND STORAGE TANK UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR SOMETHING.
>> WE'LL BRING THAT NEXT MONTH TO THE COUNCIL FOR A LITTLE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND DECISION IN THOSE.
WE'LL GET FREEZE AND NICKELS TO TALK ABOUT HOW IT FITS IN THE SYSTEM AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
>> NEXT WEEK WE HAVE [BACKGROUND] A MEETING TOWARDS WASTEWATER.
>> YES, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT PROJECT ON.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF POTENTIAL SITES AND JUST NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ANGLETON.
>> [INAUDIBLE] WHERE WERE PUTTING NUMBERS TO PUMP SIDE OF HENDERSON ROAD.
YOU'VE GOT AUTHORIZATION TO START ON THE DESIGN OF THE CHENANGO STREET PLAN.
>> YOU'VE GOT AUTHORIZATION TO GO TO WORK ON THAT?
>> OKAY. WE'VE GOT THE PLANS COMING NEXT WEEK IS THAT IT OR NOT? [LAUGHTER] I'M PLAYING WITH YOU [OVERLAPPING].
TWO WEEKS YEAH. DOUBLE THE TIME, GOOD DAD.
>> I THINK COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE] WAS SERIOUS.
>> AS YOU SEE IT RIGHT NOW BETWEEN WATER AND WASTEWATER.
WHAT'S THE HOTTEST FIRE YOU'VE GOT TO PUT OUT?
>> TO ME. IT ALWAYS GOES THIS WAY FASTER.
>> [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
>> TO ME IT ALWAYS GOES WATER, SEWER, DRAINAGE, ROADS IS THE WAY YOUR CITY SHOULD RUN.
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WATER, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE WATER FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE, FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION.SANITATION IS NEXT AND THEN DRAINAGE.
YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE WATER TO HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT.
YOU DON'T PRODUCE SEWER UNLESS YOU HAVE WATER TO PRODUCE THE SEWER, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE WATER.
BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE GETTING- EXCUSE ME, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INTEREST AT 520 ON 523, BETWEEN 288 AND 35.
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CORRIDOR THAT EVERYBODY'S WANTING TO COME AND THERE'S NO SANITARY SEWER AVAILABLE THERE.
THEY WERE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE.
THEY SIGNED A DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT.
>> BUT AUSTIN COLONY WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE AUSTIN COLONY IS DOWN.
BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CAPACITY AND A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
>> THE PROBLEM IS LIVE STATION 44.
>> IF WE TOLD AUSTIN COLONY THEY COULDN'T DEVELOP.
THAT HAS NO BEARING ON OUR ISSUE WITH THE NORTHERN SIDE.
IT'S REALLY WINDROSE GREEN AND THAT'S ABOUT IT, REALLY, RIGHT? [OVERLAPPING] INCLUDING EVERYTHING ELSE OVER THERE THAT'S COMING IN WITH A FIREBEND.
>> WELL, YOU HAVE SOME [INAUDIBLE].
WE'RE HAVING MEETINGS WITH A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE ON THE NORTH EAST SIDE OF 35.
>> I'M THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO.
IS RIVERWOOD RANCH PART OF THIS STATION 44 OR DOES IT GO DOWN.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, IT GOES OUT.
[OVERLAPPING] GREYSTONE DOESN'T GO TO 44.
>> IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE [BACKGROUND] 523 CORRIDOR, ALL THAT IS WHAT 44 DOES.
INTERESTING PART OF HENDERSON GOES THAT WAY TOO.
>> I WANT TO JUST AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT WELLS BEFORE GETTING AWAY FROM BWA AND BE MORE SELF-RELIANT.
JOHN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, PROVIDING SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT AGAIN.
WE WANT TO TRY TO GO THAT WAY OR NOT? [BACKGROUND].
>> SOMETIMES WE NEED TO MOVE AND ACT PRETTY QUICKLY ON BWA [INAUDIBLE].TONIGHT THEY HAVE A MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY CAN RESERVE THIS TODAY.
>> THIS IS ONE OF MY PROBLEMS WITH BWA, WHY AREN'T THEY EVER HERE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY WERE PLANNING TO BE HERE LAST WEEK WHEN THE HURRICANE CAME THROUGH.
TONIGHT THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN BOARD MEETING.
>> ONE OF THEM IS SICK. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M NOT EATING BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THEY WANT TO SELL TO US AND I'M INTERESTED IN BUYING.
WHY DON'T YOU COME SELL TO US? WHY DON'T YOU COME TALK TO US IN PERSON? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP IN MY OPINION.
>> WE'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO TAKE OUR WORD AT IT AND WE'RE GOOD FORWARD AND WE'RE GOING TO STRONG ARM YOU AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT ISN'T A GOOD DEAL.
SOUNDS LIKE POSSIBLY A REASONABLE DEAL, BUT I MEAN, GET HERE AND TALK TO US.
>> NO, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. MAYBE I'M SOUNDING LIKE I'M SHOOTING THE MESSENGER [BACKGROUND].
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE'RE IN THIS AGREEMENT AND WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER, SUPPOSEDLY, [NOISE] [BACKGROUND] TREAT US WITH SOME RESPECT AND SHOW UP AND TALK TO US.
LIKE, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO KNOW? [BACKGROUND] WHY WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS.
>> AS A FOUNDING MEMBER, DO WE HAVE VETO POWER? DO WE HAVE VETO POWER ON BWA TO VETO ANY NEW CUSTOMERS? [INAUDIBLE]
>> BUT OUR BWA REP IS THE ONE WHO SITS AT THAT.
>> WELL, HE CAN'T BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONE TIME. I MEAN THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE GET WAY MORE AS HE DOES COME OCCASIONALLY, BUT PROBABLY THEY CAN GET HIM TO COME A LITTLE MORE NOW THAT THIS IS A HIGHER TOPIC.
TRAVIS, I'VE SEEN CORRESPONDS WITH CHRIS AND JEFF WITH BWA, SO THERE IS SOME OF THAT HIGHER LEVEL SENIOR LEADERSHIP, BUT NOT SO MUCH STRICTLY TALKING TO US, AND SO WE EACH PROBABLY NEED TO SAY, "HEY, WE NEED TO PROBABLY SIT DOWN AND ENGAGE," SO THEY CAN HEAR STRAIGHT FROM US AS WELL.
>> I'M NOT EVEN TRYING TO ADDRESS TOWARDS MORRIS.
I KNEW MORRIS IS DOING HIS BUSINESS, I JUST MEAN IF SOMEBODY SEEMS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.
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MAYBE I'M NEW TO THIS GAME, BUT I WOULD THINK SOMEBODY WOULD IF THEY WANT OUR BUSINESS.>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY BWA WOULD BE ENTERTAINING ANY NEW OFFERS FOR WATER WHEN THEY ALREADY ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH THEIR OWN CAPACITY THAT THEY HAVE STATED THEMSELVES. THAT'S MY ISSUE.
>> I HAD HEARD RUMBLINGS THAT WAYNE SCOTT, THE OLD RETRIEVE PRISON, WAS GOING TO REDUCE THEIR DEMAND FROM BWA, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S WHY WE WE'RE GETTING OUR CAPACITY FROM.
>> I KNOW [INAUDIBLE] WENT UP ON THERE TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> SPECIFICALLY THOUGH, I'M ASKING GOING ABOUT WAYNE SCOTT BECAUSE THEY GET THEIR WATER OFF THE SAME LINE THAT COMES UP TO ANGLETON.
>> IF THEY REDUCED THEIR AMOUNT THAT THEY NEEDED, I THINK WE WOULD WELCOME THAT QUANTITY.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY GET THAT EXTRA HALF.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT 0.5 IS COMING FROM.
>> MORE LIKE AN OFFER TO US NOW.
>> I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THEY REDUCED CAPACITY OUT THERE.
THEY STILL HAVE THE TRUSTEE CAMP, BUT THE INMATES THAT WERE HOUSED IN THE STRUCTURES, THEY'RE NOT THERE ANYMORE, AND THE STAFF THEY'RE ALL GONE.
IT'S JUST A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF GUYS AND GIRLS OUT THERE NOW.
>> JUST A TRUSTEE CAMP. THAT'S IT.
>> WE ARE CURRENTLY USING UP ALL OF OUR CAPACITY, THE WATER WE RECEIVE FROM THEM AND MAKING UP WITH MORE WATER?
RIGHT NOW WE OWN THE BORDER LINE USING THE 1.8.
USUALLY AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR WE HAVE 2.3, 2.5.
THIS YEAR HAS BEEN PLAYING LOW BECAUSE OF THE RAIN AND EVERYTHING.
USUALLY WE RUN IN 2.3 METERS SO WE MAKE UP WITH THE WIDTH.
>> THE NEW SOUTH SIDE WATER TOWER COMES ONLINE DECEMBER-ISH.
>> PRETTY SOON. AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE WILL HAVE 3,690 AVAILABLE CONNECTIONS THAT NO ONE HAS SPOKEN FOR.
>> THAT NO ONE HAS SPOKEN FOR, BUT UNTIL YOU TAKE OUT THE 2,232 THAT WE'VE SPOKEN FOR, WHICH BRINGS IT DOWN TO 1,458.
WHEN THOSE COME ON, IT WILL BE 1,458.
THE 1,458 IS AFTER EVERYTHING COMES ON, AND EVERYTHING THAT'S SPOKEN FOR, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD AND THEY'RE PLOTTING IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS 1,458.
>> FOURTEEN FIFTY EIGHT, I GOT YOU.
>> I WAS TRYING TO REFRESH MY MEMORY BECAUSE THAT'S THE REASON THAT I STOOD ON MY HIND FEET AND SAID NOT TO GIVE IT TO THE RESERVE [INAUDIBLE] SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE CUT OUR THROAT GIVING THEM.
BECAUSE ONCE YOU MAKE A COMMITMENT ON A CONNECTION WITH TCEQ, YOU'RE COMMITTED.
[LAUGHTER] EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT GET IT FOR ANOTHER TWO OR THREE YEARS, WINDROSE GREEN OR SOME OTHERS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LONG TIME TO GROW, BUT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO THIS.
>> I APOLOGIZE FOR HOW WORDY THESE MEMOS ARE, IS THAT RIGHT? BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE Y'ALL AS MUCH INFORMATION AS ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE.
DON'T WORRY Y'ALL HAVE THE FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> ON THE DEVELOPED OR THE POTENTIALLY DEVELOPED BORDER PLANT AT THE OLD WATER DISTRICT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT WAS FOR THE PLANT AND THE WELL OR DO I NEED TO ADD TWO NUMBERS TOGETHER?
>> LET ME SEE WHERE WE'RE AT. THE TOTAL OPINION PROBABLE COST FOR THE WATER WELL IS APPROXIMATE 2.5.
>> THAT'S THE WATER WELL AND THE PLANT?
>> BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF THE WATER IS GOOD OVER THERE.
WISH THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD GET A TEST HOLE THAT DIDN'T COST $200,000 TO FIND OUT IF WE HAVE WATER DOWN THERE THAT WE COULD DEVELOP.
>> THAT'S WHAT I TALKED TO THE DRILLERS AND TALKED TO SOME OF OUR HDR GUYS.
THEY'LL MOVE ON SITE AND DO WHAT THEY CALL A TEST BORE.
THAT'S HOW I BROKE IT OUT, BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE IN DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY'LL SET IT UP TO WHERE THEY CAN GO AHEAD WRING THAT HOLE.
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THEY TEST WHAT'S DOWN THERE, AND THEN THEY MAKE A WELL IF IT'S DOABLE.>> I HAVE THAT MAP IN THERE THAT SHOWS YOU THE DISTANCE BETWEEN WELL NUMBER 11, AND THAT ONE IS ROUGHLY THE SAME DISTANCE AWAY, SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY THAT IT'S NOT THERE.
WHEN WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT PREVIOUS RECORDS, THEY WEREN'T TESTING FOR ARSENIC BACK IN THE DAY BECAUSE ARSENIC LEVEL WAS SO MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWING TODAY.
IF YOU LOOK AT FREEDOM PARK, FREEDOM PARK ARSENIC LEVEL WOULD BE LEGAL BACK IN THE '60S.
>> I WOULD NEED THE MONEY CRUNCHERS TO HELP OUT, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 2.5 BILLION WATER PLANT WITH A WELL, GROUND STORAGE TANK, BOOSTER PUMPS, YADA YADA YADA, EVERYTHING THAT PUTS YOU ON LINE OVER THERE.
THAT'S YOUR UPFRONT COST, IS 2.5 TO ROUND IT UP, 2.75 SOMEWHERE.
THEN YOU'RE IN OPERATION, THEN IT'S YOUR COST OR WHAT IT COSTS TO RUN THE WATER WELL AND THE PUMPS AND STUFF.
YOU GO OBLIGATE YOURSELF TO BWA, THEN THAT'S ADD INFINITUM.
IT JUST ADDS TO THE COST OF THE CUSTOMER'S WATER BILL.
>> THAT'S A POSITIVE THING IS WITH THE WATER WELL, IS THAT WATER'S CHEAPER TO MAKE THAN IT IS TO BUY THE SURFACE OF WATER.
>> WHEN YOU YOU SELL THAT WATER, THE CITY WILL ACTUALLY COLLECT MORE BACK FROM IT.
>> WE'VE HEARD RUMBLINGS OF SUBSIDENCE DISTRICTS AND SUCH.
I'LL JUST TELL YOU RIGHT UPFRONT I DON'T KNOW THE RULES ABOUT SUBSIDENCE DISTRICTS, BUT THEY START PUTTING CLAMPS ON YOU WHEN YOU GET IN THE SUBSIDENCE DISTRICTS.
>> THEY HAVE STARTED TESTING THOSE SITES.
WE HAVE ONE SITE THEY TEST FROM AND WAIT FOR A TREATMENT PLAN, AND WE GO BUILDING PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY ON ANOTHER ONE [INAUDIBLE].
>> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT HAVE A SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT IS, IF WE HAVE ONE, HOW COME BRAZORIA COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE ONE? GALVESTON, FORT BEND, HARRIS COUNTY HAS THEM.
WHY DOESN'T BRAZORIA COUNTY HAVE ONE? BECAUSE THAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN COSTS AND DEVELOPMENTS.
IT'S ALWAYS CHEAPER TO PRODUCE WELL WATER THAN IT IS SURFACE WATER.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JOHN?
JOHN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REPORT.
>> QUICKLY JOHN, CAN THE JAMESON PLANT ACCOMMODATE AN EXTRA 500,000 GALLONS A DAY?
>> I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS EVEN COMING ANYWHERE NEAR APPROACHING ITS CAPACITY OR NOT.
>> NO. WE ONLY RUN ABOUT 100,000 GALLONS IN A DAY.
>> YOU GOT TO REMEMBER JAMESON ONLY HAS SURFACE WATER FROM BWA.
>> RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, DO YOU REMEMBER THE CAPACITY OF THAT PLANT?
>> IS IT ON THAT LIST OF STUFF YOU GAVE US?
LET'S SEE IF IT'S IN HERE. JAMESON PLANT.
[NOISE]. IT'S BACK UP THERE BY THE HENDERSON PLANT.
IT HAS THE SAME PUMP SIZES AS WHAT HENDERSON DOES.
YOU'VE GOT MORE THAN ENOUGH CAPACITY WHERE YOU CAN PUSH THAT OUT.
PLUS IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU WANT TO PUSH IN A HIGHER PRESSURE WITH A PRESSURE REDUCTION VALVE BECAUSE JAMESON ACTUALLY NEEDS THE HIGHER PRESSURE.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. JOHN? THANK YOU, SIR. CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION?
>> IT LOOKS LIKE THAT BRINGS US TO THE PART OF THE AGENDA THAT EVERYONE LIKES,
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STAFF AS WELL, ADJOURNMENT.THE SHOW ENDS AT NINE O'CLOCK. [NOISE]
>> YEAH. YOU WERE HOSTING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.