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[Town Hall on September 29, 2021.]
HOW'S EVERYONE DOING? SO, UH, UH, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO CONDUCT A TOWN HALL TO TALK ABOUT, UH, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN ANGLETON.AND SO IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL, UM, WE'RE INTERESTED IN, IN FEEDBACK ON CURRENT LOT SIZES, FUTURE LOT SIZES, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND SO WE'LL CONDUCT US FROM FIVE TO SEVEN OR HOWEVER LONG PEOPLE STAY AND ARE INTERESTED.
I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT FACEBOOK.
IF THERE'S PEOPLE CHATTING ON FACEBOOK, UM, WHAT I'D ASK IS, UH, IF YOU HAVE A STATEMENT YOU WANT TO MAKE, UH, COME UP TO THE PODIUM SO WE CAN ALL HEAR YOU, UH, IF YOU GOT QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, MAKE YOUR STATEMENT OR WHATEVER, AND THEN LET'S WORK THROUGH EVERYONE THAT'S HERE.
UH, FIRST BEFORE YOU, IF YOU GOT ANOTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT TO MAKE SO THAT EVERYONE GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, MAKE A COMMENT.
AND I GOT A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE, A COUPLE OF STAFF MEMBERS HERE, AND, UH, WE'LL GET STARTED.
SO WE'VE GOT, UH, ON THE OVERHEAD OVER THERE.
UH, WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, GRAPHICS THAT TALK ABOUT ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN ANGLETON.
UH, WE'VE GOT SOME DEMOGRAPHICS, UH, DISPLAYING LOTS SIZES AND NUMBER OF HOUSES AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, HAVE A, UH, INTELLECTUAL DISCUSSION IF WE NEED TO OR UPDATE.
AND WE'RE NOT JUST, UH, PULLING NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEADS.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP WITH ANYONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT.
YOU CAN BE WRONG, ROARING ANYTHING IN DEVELOPMENTS.
SO AGAIN, I ASK YOU TO JUST TAKE TWO OR THREE MINUTES, UH, AND COME ON UP, SAY YOUR, SAY YOUR NAME SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND, AND SORRY, MY NAME IS CATHERINE OKAY.
SO MY NAME IS CATHERINE WINANS.
UM, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH MR. WHITAKER.
AND LOUIS VALDEZ, I GUESS HE'S THE CHIEF NOW.
I WASN'T AWARE UNTIL JUST TODAY.
WHEN I RECEIVED HIS EMAIL, I APPRECIATE YOU FORWARDING IT TO HIM.
UM, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE SITUATION WE'RE HAVING IS SPEEDERS.
ALL OF OUR MAILBOXES ARE GETTING HIT, CONSTANTLY PEOPLE LEAVING THE BARS, THE CRIMINALS, LEAVING THE SCOTTISH IN FINDING DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IN OUR YARDS.
THE ROAD'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR AN AMBULANCE TO PASS BY.
LIKE IT'S NOT EVEN WIDE ENOUGH.
I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CODE IS ON THAT, HOW WIDE IT HAS TO BE FOR EMERGENCY USE, BUT IT IS A REAL PROBLEM.
SO WE'RE WANTING TO DEAD IN IT.
NOW THERE'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT ACROSS, UH, I GUESS VALDEZ.
SO WE'RE GETTING MORE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH GOING THROUGH AND IT'S, IT'S GETTING BAD AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY EMAILS DO YOU RECEIVE TODAY? I'M SURE SOON YOU'LL BE RECEIVING A WHOLE LOT MORE.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE.
YEAH, I GOT JURORS AND I GOT, UH, PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR MORE.
SO I WASN'T SURE WHAT STEPS I NEEDED TO TAKE NEXT.
IF I NEED TO GET A LAWYER, IF I NEED TO GET A PETITION SIGNED OR WHAT, BUT WE'RE ALL WANTING TO DEAD IN THE ROAD.
WELL, YOU CAN SEND US A REQUEST.
A PETITION PROBABLY WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
WELL, WE'LL TAKE THAT TO STAFF AND COUNCIL WOULD DEEM THAT.
AND I SAID, LIKE I SAID, I TALKED TO LOOPY LOOPPAY TODAY MR. VALDEZ.
AND HE SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE OFFICERS OUT TO MAKE SURE.
SO HE'S GOING TO DO SOME CLOSE PATROLS OVER THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THAT STUFF.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AND THAT WAS A GREAT PICTURE BY THE WAY.
THANKS FOR SENDING THE PICTURE.
CHRIS, DO YOU MIND IF I EXPLAIN THE LAST COLUMN ON THIS? WELL, YOU MAY, MAYBE YOU CAN JUST START AT THE TOP WHILE WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SPEAKER, BUT KIND OF WALK JUST QUICKLY WALK THROUGH THE CHART.
SO WHAT DOES CHARGES IS? WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 2200 HOMES.
WE'LL BE HERE IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS.
AND THEN DO YOU NEED, YOU NEED TO SPEAK INTO THE
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MIC, GRAB, GRAB THE MIC OFF THE PODIUM THERE.SO THE FIRST COLUMN INDICATES THE FRONTAGE LOT WIDTH.
AND THE SECOND COLUMN HERE IS HOW MANY HOMES HAVE THAT FRONTAGE LOT WIDTH.
AND THIS PERCENTAGE COLUMN COMPRISES THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL TOTAL OF THAT 2149.
UM, AND THEN THIS LAST COLUMN, IF YOU TAKE THIS PERCENTAGE, ADD IT TO THE PERCENTAGE BELOW IT, IT COMES UP WITH THE, THAT, THAT SUMS THAT 8.42 IS THE SUM OF 0.3, SEVEN AND 8.05.
THAT WAY YOU HAVE A RUNNING TOTAL.
SO IF YOU TAKE, LET'S START WITH 55 FOOT, LOTS, YOU CAN EASILY LOOK ACROSS HERE AND KNOW THAT 70.78% OF ALL THE HOMES ARE 55 FOOT AND SMALLER LOT FRONTS.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR CAUSE THAT ONCE YOU SCROLL UP TO WHERE YOU'VE GOT ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS LISTED THERE, JUST SO WHILE I CAN'T FIT THIS ALL ON ONE, ON ONE PAGE LEGIBLY, UM, THE WAY THIS CHART WORKS IS WE HAVE OUR DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THESE ARE MOSTLY GOING TO BE OUR BIGGER ONES.
UM, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE CATEGORIZED IN THREE COLOR CODED CATEGORIES.
SO WE HAVE WHERE THE CIVIL IS COMPLETE AND YOU MAY SEE SOME, SOME HOMES AND CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GREEN, BLUE IS GOING TO BE AT THE SILVER IS COMPLETE.
THAT'S THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND ROADWAYS, BUT CONSTRUCTION HAS NOT ACTUALLY BEGUN FOR BUILDING HOMES.
AND THEN ORANGE MEANS IT'S STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASE.
MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL PLAT FILED.
SO WE'RE NOT THAT FAR YET, BUT WE KNOW IT'S COMING, THEY'VE MET WITH THE CITY, THEY'VE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOTTEN SUBSTANTIALLY INTO THE PROCESS.
THEY'RE JUST STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASE.
SO THAT'S HOW THOSE ARE CATEGORIZED.
AND THEN THE SECOND COLUMN IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOTS FOR EACH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
THEN THE FOLLOWING COLUMN INDICATES THE OVERALL LOT SIZE AND SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT LOT SIZES.
UM, SO THOSE ARE ALL STRATIFIED RIGHT THERE.
UM, AND THEN WITH THE QUANTITY OF LOT SIZE BY LOTS BY SIZE.
UM, SO THESE TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN ROSE GREEN, THE 1 23, 3 0 8 AND TWO 18, UM, ADD UP TO THE 6 49 THAT'S OVER HERE IN COLUMN B.
SO THAT'S HOW THAT CHART WORKS.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ILLUSTRATE, WHISPERING PINES, THAT ONE WASN'T EXACTLY POPULAR WITH THE, UH, ELECTED MEMBERS AND THE APPOINTED MEMBERS OF OUR P AND Z AND CITY COUNCILS.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT ONE IS GRAY.
AND THE ONLY DISCREPANCY YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE 20 TO 20 FOR A TOTAL AND 2149.
THAT DIFFERENCE IS THIS 71 LOTS RIGHT HERE ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE.
I THINK THAT'S A MOBILE HOME, UH, HOME MOBILE HOME PARK.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, ABOUT THE WAY THAT CHART WORKS? UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY POST IT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AS A PDF.
SO, UM, THIS IS ANOTHER VISUAL WE HAVE.
THIS IS, UM, SIMPLY WHAT LOTS, UH, WHAT SUBDIVISIONS ARE OUT THERE WITH THE NUMBER OF LOTS ON THERE AND JUST WHERE THE PROXIMITY IS.
THIS IS NOT TO SCALE BY ANY MEANS, BUT THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO, UM, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WIND ROSE GREEN ONE, THAT WAS D THIS PORTION OF IT WAS DISHONEST.
UM, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CITY'S ETJ, BUT ALL OF THE OTHERS ARE WITHIN THE CITY'S CITY LIMITS.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, RAISE YOUR HAND.
SO JOHN OR TRAVIS, YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, IS THERE ANY FACEBOOK, UH, QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING DO YOU, OF COURSE YOU GO AND SET UP UP PLEASE? WELL, IT CAN BE A COMMENT.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, UM, I'M KAREN MCKINNON.
SO DOES THE CITY HAVE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE NOW? IS THAT, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT THIS DISCUSSION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT LOT SIZES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND SHE'S BROKEN THEM DOWN, BUT DID I MISS THAT OR DID, DO WE HAVE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OR SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IT'S OWNED AS, OR IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES A DIFFERENT ZONING.
SO YOU, CAN YOU RUN THAT DOWN FOR ME? LIKE, SO IF IT'S JUST RESIDENTIAL, WHAT'S THE MINIMUM SIZE.
SO LINDSAY, YOU WANT TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT.
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THIS YOUR, THE MINUTE, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS DICTATED BY WHAT ZONING DISTRICT A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS IN.SO THE CITY SMALLEST RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT IS THE SF FIVE DISTRICT.
AND THAT FIVE MEANS THAT THE LOT IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN LOT AREA.
UM, SF 6.3 MEANS THAT THE LOT IS A MINIMUM OF 6,300 SQUARE FEET, UH, ST.
VARESO 7.2 FOR 10,000 AND FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE DISTRICT, WHICH IS A MINIMUM 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
NOW WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT EACH STONING DISTRICT IS THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH AND THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH.
SO IT DEPENDS ON THE ZONING DISTRICT, HOW WIDE THE LOT IS AS WELL AS THE MINIMUM LOT AREA AND THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH.
SO THERE'S NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL ANSWER.
AND THE CITY ALSO HAS SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE IN WHAT'S CALLED PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS, WHERE YOU ARE BASICALLY DESIGNING YOUR OWN ZONING DISTRICT.
SO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MAY HAVE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS THAT ARE 40 FEET WIDE, OR THEY CAN BE 4,500 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS THAT ARE 50 FEET WIDE.
IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PARTICULARS ARE IN THAT PARTICULAR PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
AND THE CITY ALSO HAS A ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S, UH, FOR LIKE TOWNHOMES SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED THAT HAS A MUCH SMALLER, MINIMUM LOT SIZE, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS VARIOUS OTHER KINDS OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN IT AND HAS STANDARDS IN IT FOR THAT.
SO LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO SINGLE ONE SIZE FITS ALL LOT SIZE, BUT FOR GENERALLY A BASIC SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, THE SMALLEST MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS SFI, WHICH IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND IN CHAPTER 28, ARTICLE THREE OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCE, THE WAY TO FIND THAT, UM, I JUST GOOGLED ANGLETON CODE OF ORDINANCE.
YOU CAN JUST TYPE INTO THE SEARCH BAR, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND IT USUALLY GETS YOU A HIT BUTTON, YOU UP THE MIC.
AND THAT IS, I THINK FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE CITY ITSELF HAS MORE HISTORICALLY BEEN THE SF SIX, 6.3.
SO HISTORICALLY NOT, NOT DOES NOT SAY EVERYWHERE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OTHERS ON CITY COUNCIL THAT MOST OF THE LOT SIZE HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN THE 6.3, WHICH IS COMMONLY A 60 FOOT FRONT LOT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD PREDOMINANTLY FIND IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
OBVIOUSLY HE GAVE YOU THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS, BUT SO I'M JUST OF FOLLOW UP.
WELL, SO, YOU KNOW, CHRIS, IT'S A BAD IDEA TO GIVE A LAWYER AN OPEN MIC AND JUST KIND OF LET HIM TALK FOR A LITTLE BIT.
TRAVIS GOT BIT KNOW A PATENT RIDER THROUGH A FIVE SOUTH WALKER.
SO I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO HIT ON BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THIS IS FOR.
I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WHERE I'VE LISTENED TO YOU ALL TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE KIND OF GOING AS A FUTURE DIRECTION.
IF YOU LOOK 71% OF THE LOTS ON THAT BOARD ARE BELOW WHAT TRAVIS JUST TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WHERE DO WE STOP THAT? YEAH.
I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THESE HOUSES OVER ON ASH.
I THINK IT IS THAT OUR, THE SHOTGUN LOOKING EVERYTHING'S EXACTLY THE SAME.
LET'S JUST POUND THEM OUT AND GET THEM BUILT.
I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE TO ANGLETON THAT WANT THAT FRONT YARD THAT WANT THAT BACKYARD.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE A FAN OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, THAT NUMBER DOESN'T EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE APARTMENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN COME UP THAT ARE PLANNED, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE LISTENED TO SOME OF THESE LOT SIZES AS FAR AS THE NEW, WELL, A LOT BEING BUILT UP ON THE TIGRES, WHICH IS THE, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME AUSTIN COLONY.
AND I THINK LAST NIGHT THEY SAID THAT THE MINIMUM WAS WHAT, 50 FOOT THEY'RE ON, WHAT THEY'RE USING NOW IN SECTION ONE, I THOUGHT THAT SAID 50 WAS AN OFF IN PHASE ONE.
SO BECAUSE IT'S SPREAD OUT THROUGH THAT.
AND I REMEMBER THE COMMENT THAT WHAT'S REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME.
DO YOU HAVE DISTRIBUTION ON AUSTIN? COLONY GOT 50, 55 AND 60 WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE.
SO WHAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME THOUGH, STOOD OUT TO ME WAS I THINK THE COMMENT THAT JOHN MADE A MONTH OR SO AGO, WHICH WAS, WE'VE GOT 2000 LOTS PLANTED AND ONE HOUSE BUILT.
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WITH WHAT JOHN SAID ABOUT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY START SEEING THE SALES UNTIL WE START SEEING THE PEOPLE COMING IN ON THOSE.I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE LETTING THE SMALLER LOTS TAKE OVER BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE OUT HERE FOR.
AND SO I THINK THE LARGER LOTS ARE WHAT PEOPLE ARE WANTING.
THAT'S THE TRADITION OF ANGLETON.
THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE ARE SET UP THE WAY WE ARE SET UP.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING FROM.
IN THAT THEY'RE SAYING THE PEOPLE COMING FROM HOUSTON WANT THE SMALLER LOTS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR IDENTITY IS.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I THINK PEOPLE IN HERE, ONE.
SO I'LL SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP NOW, BUT THAT WAS KINDA MY 2 CENTS ON THAT.
IT'S FREE TIME OR NO CHARGING.
NO, YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
I MEAN, WE CAN PULL THE MICROPHONE OUT AND YOU CAN SIT DOWN, BUT WE JUST HAVE NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
I JUST WANT TO ADD TO HIS KROGER, WALMART, ALL OF IT.
LIKE WE DON'T NEED ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE AND I HATE TO BE YES, WATER BURGER LINE.
AND I JUST, I HATE TO BE THAT WAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE A NICE CITY.
WE LIKE PEOPLE COME VISIT, BUT LEAVE.
LIKE WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE DOWNTOWN HOUSTON HERE.
THAT'S NOT HOW I WANT HER TO GROW UP, YOU KNOW, AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HER WALKING OUTSIDE.
I HA SHE'S 13 YEARS OLD AND I CAN'T LET HER GO PLAY IN THE YARD.
WHEN HOUSTON COMES, CRIMINALS COME, CRIME GOES UP.
WHEN THE AD, ANYONE ELSE, I KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I'M GONNA START CALLING NAMES OR SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT TALLER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
UM, I'M GOING TO JUST REITERATE, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SHARED THE, THE SMALLER LOT SIZES.
I PERSONALLY, I'M NOT A FAN OF IT.
UM, WE'RE NOT
I DON'T WANT ANGLETON TO BE LIKE THAT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GET LANDLOCKED WHERE WE CAN'T WIDEN ROADS.
UM, IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THESE PEOPLE, OUR SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY, OVER-PACKED BREAKING IN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INTO THESE LOTS THAT ARE LIKE CRAMMED IN THERE.
LIKE LITTLE APARTMENT COMPLEXES IS RIDICULOUS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE STREETS AND THE ROADS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE EXTRA TRAFFIC.
OUR ZONES ARE GOING TO BE WELL, WELL, OVER-PACKED MORE THAN THEY ARE NOW.
AND JUST LIKE WHAT IT WAS SAID WITH THOSE TRACK HOUSES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COOKIE CUTTER, THEY'RE CHEAP AND NO OFFENSE TO ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN ROSEWOOD, BUT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD EVERYONE'S PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET BECAUSE THE ROAD IS NARROW.
THEY CAN'T GET TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY THE WIDTH, BUT IT'S ALSO THE DEPTH, UH, THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH BLUE BONNET, WE'VE HAD, WE HAVE 80 FOOT LOTS OVER THERE AND IT'S GREAT.
WE HAVE NO ISSUES, BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THESE SMALLER NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S ALL SIDING.
UM, AND IT'S JUST ONE BIG BLOCK GOING STRAIGHT UP AND IT'S, IT'S JUST UNATTRACTIVE AND THEN NO OFFENSE.
AND I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO WALK OUT THEIR BACK DOOR AND BE ABLE TO PEE ON THEIR FENCE.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY WANT A BACKYARD, KIDS, DOGS, PETS, WHATEVER, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
F WE JUST CRAMMED THEM IN A SMALL LITTLE COMPACT LITTLE UNIT.
UH, ESPECIALLY HE MENTIONED TO HIM, I SAW THE DIVISIONS THAT THE STREET YOU LIVE ON, I DEVELOPED HERITAGE PARK AND THEN ROSEWOOD.
I DEVELOPED THE FIRST TWO SECTIONS OF THAT ONE.
SO, UM, THERE THERE'S, I FOUND, UH, UH, BUILT 50 FOOT, LOTS, 60, 70 EIGHTIES, NINETIES, UH, UH, HERITAGE JOKES.
SO ALEXANDER COURT, MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY, BUT THERE IS A MARKET FOR EVERY SIZE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, ROSEWOOD, THERE ARE PEOPLE, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT, HERITAGE JOKES.
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT THERE, BUT, UH, THERE IS AN EXTREME NUMBER OF THEM.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT AND WHAT I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS IS THE MARKET'S GOING TO DICTATE.
WHAT'S GOING TO, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN YOU SEE 2000 HOMES, THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THAT'LL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS IS PRETTY MINIMAL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU, THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BUY THEM.
THEY'LL BUY BIGGER HOUSES AND IN A MARKET TO DICTATE WHAT THESE DEVELOPERS END UP BUILDING OUT.
IF YOU LOOK AT RANCHO ISABELLA, THEY WENT THROUGH THREE,
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THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS.AND FINALLY AT THE END, THEY SOLD LOTS.
INDIVIDUALS IS JUST, UH, IF THE MARKET THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO, THESE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO BAIL TO WHAT THE MARKET IS.
AND IF YOU WANT 60 FOOT LOTS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL PROBABLY GO TO.
CAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT THEIR MARKET TO FAIL.
UM, WHAT I GOT TO ASK, CAUSE I HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT MADE A MISTAKE AND COMMENTED ON FACEBOOK LAST MONTH WHEN THERE WAS SOME COMMENT ABOUT PITS.
AND SO I GOT TONS OF MESSAGES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CALLED, BUT I WAS ASKED TO SEE IF THE CITY HAS ANY PLANS TO, UM, HAVE EITHER A POST TO A PAGE OR INFORM THE RESIDENTS OF MOST OF THESE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY KNOW WHAT A PIT IS, BUT THEY HAVE A TAX ACCOMPANY TO THEM ON TOP OF YOUR OTHER TAX.
AND IS THE CITY HAVE ANY PLANS TO LIST THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE PIT SUBDIVISIONS AND TO THE PIT TAXES THEY'LL PAY THERE? ARE YOU GONNA LEAVE IT UP TO THE BUILDERS? SO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT.
UH, I WAS AT A REALTOR CONFERENCE DOWN IN LAKE JACKSON AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, I THINK IT'S MANDATORY NOW FOR REALTORS TO DISCLOSE THAT UPFRONT.
RIGHT? THERE'S A NEW DISCLOSURE FORM.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE LAW IS FOR THAT, THAT THAT'S HOW THAT GETS IMPLEMENTED.
UM, UM, I, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
UH, AGAIN, WE JUST NEED TO PROBABLY LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND IT, IT, IT CAME UP REALTORS I'VE VISITED WITH, WHILE BACK THE SAME THING.
THEY THERE'S LIKE SIX DIFFERENT TAX ZONES OR TAX RATES IN THE CITY.
SO YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO AND ROSEWOOD AND HERITAGE PARK AND YOU PAY THE CITY TAX RATE, WHICH THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING GOOD AND LOWERING IT INCREMENTALLY OVER THE YEAR.
BUT SOME OF THESE NEW PEDS, YOU MAY HAVE $900 A YEAR.
YOU PAY FOR A TAX TO LIVE THERE.
AND THAT'S, UH, JUST FOR DISCLOSURE.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR, COMMUNITY'S NOT USED TO IT.
IF YOU'RE IN A HOME COLONY REPAIR LANE, HE MAY EXPECT IT.
AND I THINK I MUST ADD 50 PEOPLE CONTACT ME.
WE'LL KNOW WHAT IT WAS, WHAT'S IT FOR.
SO I THINK IT'D BE GOOD HAVING SOME DISCLOSURE ON THAT.
I'M GONNA START CALLING NAMES HERE IN A MINUTE.
I WANT A BUSINESS DOWN THE STREET HERE.
IT SAYS MOTOR TRENDS, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP.
AND I GREW UP HERE, WAS BORN HERE AND WE GREW UP ACTUALLY ON PEACHTREE, JUST RIGHT DOWN THE STREET HERE.
AND I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I'M KIND OF AGAINST THE CRAMMED HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
I DON'T LIKE THE FEELING OF IT.
UM, I CAN GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT I DO.
LIKE, LIKE WHEN YOU CRUISE DOWN ON CANON STREET BEHIND THE KROGER, THOSE LOTS, RIGHT THERE ARE HUGE.
AND JUST THE FEELING OF THE BIG OAK TREES IN THERE IS THE FEELING THAT I REMEMBER AS A KID AND GROWING UP AND PLAYING IN NEIGHBOR'S YARDS AND BIG YARDS AND THINGS.
AND THAT'S WHAT ATTRACTED ME TO EVEN COME BACK HERE.
CAUSE I LEFT FOR AWHILE AND WENT TO HOUSTON METROPOLITAN AREA AND I DON'T MISS IT.
AND I LOVE BEING HERE AND I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A BUSINESS AND I WANT GROWTH, BUT GROWTH SOMETIMES IS A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
UM, ALONG WITH GROWTH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN BECAUSE WHEN YOU GROW, YOU ALSO, IT REQUIRES MORE RESOURCES.
SO YOU START BRINGING IN ALL THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSES, THE AVERAGE HOUSE IS GOING TO HOLD, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO SIX PEOPLE, I WOULD ASSUME SOME RIGHT IN THERE, FOUR PEOPLE AT LEAST.
SO THAT MEANS MORE PROTECTION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT ALSO MEANS WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF ALL THE HOUSES, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CREATE MORE FLOODING IN THE AREA BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING MORE NOW THE GROUND CAN'T ABSORB IT.
I MEAN, I'VE WITNESSED IT HERE JUST IN MY BUSINESS IS POURED DOWN RAIN AND RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS, I CAN'T EVEN GET IN CUSTOMERS CAN'T GET IN BECAUSE IT'S FLOODING.
SO IT'S, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS. JUST CHANNELING WATER.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE.
AND I'VE NOTICED IT OVER HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH DEVELOPMENT IS IT'S OVER HERE ON KYBER.
SO RIGHT THERE BY THE MOSQUITO DEPARTMENT AREA IN THAT AREA OR NO, I'M SORRY.
RIGHT THERE BY THE, UH, CROSS SECTION OF, UM, DOWNING AND KYBER AND THE ELEVATION WAS RAISED UP AND THE POOR PEOPLE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THEIR LOTS, THERE'S JUST FLOODED BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION THAT THEY RAISED UP FOR THAT SUBDIVISION COMING IN.
UM, SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT KIND OF STRATEGIC PLAN, IF THIS IS ALLOWED TO COME IN, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE ALL THIS STRUCTURALLY WITH PROTECTION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE? UH, WORST.
IS THAT GOING TO GET, WHAT PLAN DO WE HAVE TO FIX THAT? YOU KNOW, YOU, I THINK YOU JUST CAN'T ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO COME IN HERE.
AND, UM, AND, UM, I KNOW THIS YOUNG MAN, HE'S, HE'S A DEVELOPER AND I DON'T WANT TO STUMP ANYBODY'S BUSINESS CAUSE I'M A BUSINESS OWNER, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE STRATEGIC.
AND THAT WAY WE HAVE A PLAN GOAL ACCOMMODATING ALL THESE PEOPLE ALONG WITH EVERYTHING
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ELSE THAT'S COMING WITH IT.HEY, AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS AND SOMEONE ELSE WAS IN LINE, YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAD DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE FUTURE OF ANGLETON.
AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT EXACTLY YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, OR RESIDENTIAL, UM, IN SOME CASES WE'RE OUT OF, UH, WASTEWATER CAPACITY.
SO WE CAN'T PLUG IN NEW NEIGHBORHOODS OR NEW BUSINESSES IN SOME LOCATIONS BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, SAME THING WITH WATER, WE'RE KIND OF GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE REACHING THAT CAPACITY TO ADD NEW CONNECTIONS TO THE CITY.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, DO WE MAKE THOSE STRATEGIC DECISIONS OR NOT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD? AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S OUR DIRECTION AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, I THINK WHY WE'RE HERE A LITTLE BIT IS TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
UH, UH, YOU KNOW, PART, PART OF ECONOMICS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WATER BURGER, I WANT TO NEW HEB OR WHATEVER.
WELL, A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES OPERATE BASED OFF OF WHAT EXACTLY NUMBER OF POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS.
AND SO THEY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT OUR MARKET.
THEY'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, THE EXAMPLE I'LL USE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT IN LINE FOR A LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT BECAUSE WE TAKE AWAY FROM THAT, THAT MARKET BECAUSE WE'RE SO CLOSE.
UM, BUT SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THE CHICKEN AND EGG THING, YOU KNOW, WE SAY WE WANT THINGS, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT COMES WITH ECONOMIC DECISIONS THAT SORT OF ARE OUT OF OUR CONTROL OR THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET THESE TWO, 2000 HOUSES IN, IF, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THEY FILL OUT AND THAT CHANGES OUR POPULATION BASE, UH, YOU KNOW, WILL THAT ATTRACT OTHER COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL TANGLED? ALL RIGHT, I'M LOOKING FOR FACEBOOK COMMENT OR PLEASE POST AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE POINT OF TONIGHT IS NOT FOR US TO COME, YOU KNOW, LECTURE OR BRIEF OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, WANTS AND NEEDS IN ANGLETON AROUND CIRCLED AROUND DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, OR RESIDENTIAL TEXT MESSAGE.
IT WAS REGARDING GROCERY STORES.
SO THE NEED FOR NEW GROCERY STORES OR UPGRADED CURRENT GROCERY STORES.
MA'AM UM, THE GROCERY STORE SITUATION, WE HAVE SO MANY EMPTY BUILDINGS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WERE ABSOLUTE FITNESSES.
THAT'S A WHOLE GROCERY STORE USED TO BE, WHY CAN'T WE BRING MORE BUSINESSES IN TO WHERE THE BUILDINGS ALREADY ARE AT? LIKE, I DON'T, WHY DO WE HAVE TO BUILD NEW BUSINESS? LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH.
SO, SO WE'RE TRYING THAT LAST YEAR WE DID A RETAIL RECRUITMENT PROGRAM WHERE THEY GAVE US, THEY GIVE US, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A DATING APP, RIGHT.
THEY GAVE US THE 10 MATCHES TO ANGLETON BASED ON OUR DEMOGRAPHICS POPULATION LOCATION, UM, FURTHER AWAY FROM ONE OF THEIR OTHER BUSINESSES, WHATEVER.
UM, AND OUR, OUR PROGRAM FOR THAT WAS TO TAKE THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS EMPTY BUILDING OVER HERE.
WE'VE GOT THE OLD LOCK SODA BUILDING THERE AND WE'VE GOT, SO THEY COME IN AND THEY FILL SOME OF THESE EMPTY SPACES, NOT NECESSARILY.
SO KIND OF LIKE WHAT DEREK DID, MR. DS DID AND DEVELOPED THE RESTAURANT AND THEN MIKEY, I DID THAT.
ALL THAT, IS THAT, I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? RIGHT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH, UM, SOME LOCAL FOLKS THAT WANT TO EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS.
AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING, WE'RE HELPING THEM.
WE, YOU KNOW, GET THEM TO A REALTOR OR WHATEVER TO HELP THEM LOOK AT, THEY SAY THEY WANT A PLACE, THAT'S GOT A DRIVE IN, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND SO WE SAY, HEY, WE KNOW OF SIX PLACES, OR WE KNOW OF A REALTOR THAT KNOWS THE PLACES THAT HAVE DRIVE-INS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, 1500 SQUARE FEET, IT'S GOT A DRIVE IN AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, OR IT'S ON A CORRIDOR OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS ARE.
UH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT MATCH, UM, IN CONFIDENCE.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ON THE WEBSITE.
WELL, WELL, SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T ADVERTISE, WE DO THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS IN CONFIDENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO SAY WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
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RIGHT? YEAH.SO THIS YEAR WE IN THE BUDGET, WE'RE ENGAGING A ECONOMIC DEVELOPER, UH, IT'S THE MIKE BARNES GROUP.
AND SO, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT SORT OF BEING FULL IN A RESIDENCE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL.
UH, SO AGAIN, HOW DO WE EXPAND OUR TAX BASE WITHOUT PUTTING THE BURDEN ON, ON THE HOMEOWNER? SO WE'VE PUT IT ON A BUSINESS THAT BRINGS MORE VALUE TO THE PROPERTY.
UH, AND AGAIN, MATCHES FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE LIMITED ON WATER CAPACITY IS A BUSINESSES AROUND TRANSPORTATION OR DISTRIBUTION THAT DOESN'T USE A LOT OF WATER.
AND SO, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO GROW.
SO WE HAVE JOBS HERE IN ANGLETON, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO OTHER CITIES TO HAVE JOBS IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T TOLD YOUR CASE.
YOU CAN'T TELL, I'M NOT WORKING OFF A SCRIPT HERE.
UM, I'M FILLING TO THE NEXT ANXIOUS PERSON COMES UP TO HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION.
UM, MET OVER THE YEARS IN ANGLETON, PIECEMEAL.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF OUT STREETS.
YOU HAVE THEIR OWN ERIK NORTH, YOU HAVE ON, YOU HAVE IT.
I THINK Y'ALL HAD SOME DECISION ON GREYSTONE.
DO YOU COLLECT, CONNECT MOLINA OR WHATEVER IT WAS, OR YOU CONNECT REMINGTON.
AND, AND I THINK LAST NIGHT YOU HAD DISCUSSION ON THE ONE FOR BOWEL BAND.
ARE YOU CONNECTED TO THE ALOHA? IS THERE GOING FORWARD? IT'D BE NICE FOR CONNECTIVITY.
IF SOME, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAKES NO SENSE, A NEIGHBOR WHOSE AGE, YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN IT, BUT SOME OF THOSE WOULD BE NICE IF THOSE STUB OUTS WERE EVALUATED.
AND I SOON THAT'S SOMETHING ON THE PLAN THAT MAYBE THESE STREETS AT, I'D SAY THE OLD TIMERS MAYBE BEFORE MY TIME, OR MAYBE MY TIME THAT THESE, THESE STUB OUTS FOR FUTURE GROWTH, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THEM ACROSS THE CITY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW Y'ALL'S PLAN, BUT IT'D BE GOOD TO LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN DO SOME OF THAT.
IT'S A GREAT, THE SHOWER, GIVING US OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, GOING BACK TO THE GROCERY STORES STORES.
SO ME PERSONALLY SPEAKING, I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW THE WHOLE POPULATION THING WORKS, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS LIKE, OUR HEB IS SMALLER THAN WEST COLUMBIA, WHO HAS A POPULATION OF 5,000 PEOPLE.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A CITY OF 20,000 AND WE HAVE A SMALLER STORE THAN THEY DO, UM, WE HAVE LESS OPTIONS.
I PERSONALLY DON'T EVEN TRY TO SHOP HERE.
I GET FRUSTRATED IN HOW BIG THE LINES ARE.
LIKE I STOOD IN A KROGER LINE THAT WAS IN THE BAKERY BECAUSE THERE'S NO LINES OPEN OR NO ADDITIONAL LINES OPEN.
AND MAYBE THAT'S A STORE MANAGEMENT ISSUE, BUT IT'S LIKE WALMART, THEY HAVE 30 LANES AND THREE PEOPLE.
UM, BUT IT, THE LINES GET RIDICULOUS.
I'VE SEEN PEOPLE JUST LEAVE THEIR BASKET WHERE IT'S AT AND WALK OUT THE DOOR.
CAUSE IT TAKES TOO LONG TO GET THROUGH THE GROCERY STORE.
UM, THE STORES CAN NOT EXPAND TO ADD ANY OF THESE SELF SCANS STATIONS THAT ALL THESE OTHER TOWNS SEEM TO HAVE.
SO I TAKE MYSELF TO THE LAKE JACKSON STORE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE INCOME EARNED REVENUE THAT THIS CITY IS MISSING IS BECAUSE YOU'RE SENDING PEOPLE LIKE ME TO ANOTHER CITY TO SHOP, INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT RIGHT HERE IN ANGLETON BECAUSE OF THESE SITUATIONS.
SO I DON'T KNOW, LIKE THE LOGISTICS AND I DON'T KNOW THE POPULATION AND WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S AN ISSUE.
THE OTHER QUESTION I'VE GOT IS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES AND WE'RE TALKING AND I'M TALKING 35 WHERE THE OLD HEB IS, THOSE BUILDINGS ARE, ARE OLD.
UM, THEY LOOK AT, UM, AND IF I WAS A NEW BUSINESS OWNER WANTING TO COME IN, I WOULD NOT BE LOOKING THERE.
UM, ALL THESE NICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE POPPING UP ELSEWHERE, OUR MAIN STRIP HAS NOW 2 88 B.
UM, AND SO THAT SIDE OF TOWN IS DYING.
PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO WANT TO GO OVER THEIR PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING.
SO THE PERCEPTION OF THOSE BUILDINGS BEING AS DILAPIDATED, LACK OF BETTER WORDS, THAT THEY LOOK IS NOT GOING TO ATTRACT NOBODY.
AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO DIE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
AND NO ONE'S GOING TO INVEST IN AND TAKE UP A BUSINESS ON THAT SIDE BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, THAT'S NOT WHERE THE TRAFFIC'S AT.
AND SO IF THERE'S NOT A PLAN IN PLACE, OR MAYBE THERE IS AN ORDER TO MAYBE GIVE THOSE BUSINESSES A FACELIFT IN ORDER TO ATTRACT MORE BUSINESS TO THAT SIDE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK THE FOOT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GET OVER ON THAT SIDE OF THE TOWN.
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I JUST HAD A SUGGESTION THAT I THINK MAY BE USEFUL IN SOMETHING OF THIS.I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE, IT'S NOT PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, Y'ALL HAVE A COMMITTEE ON THAT.
BUT I THINK SOMETHING THAT MAY BE USEFUL IS GOING TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE WHAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, MEGAN COMPLETELY REVAMPED THE COUNTY SEAT BARBERSHOP.
AND SHE'S GOT A THRIVING BUSINESS OVER ON THAT AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, DEREK, SHE LEFT, BUT DEREK KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING WITH THAT.
PULL SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE, GET THEM IN HERE AND GO, HEY, WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO DO THIS? HOW DID YOU DO IT? WHAT COULD WE HAVE DONE TO HELP? HOW DO WE GET THAT GOING? BECAUSE IF YOU PULL THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE IT IN THOSE PARTS OF TOWN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COME IN AND GO, WELL, IF THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE DONE IT, WE CAN FOLLOW WHAT THEY DID AND MAKE IT WORK.
SO I THINK PULLING THE KNOWLEDGE BASE FROM THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT.
AND I THINK THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO SO.
SO AGAIN, DEREK, ANYBODY THAT'S ALREADY RENOVATED SOMETHING LIKE THAT, PULL THEM IN AND GET THEIR KNOWLEDGE BASE, GET MIKEY, GET WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, GET THEM IN BECAUSE HE DID WHAT HE DID WITH WAKE.
HE'S BUILT THAT UP ON A CORNER.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY USEFUL TO THAT.
YOU KNOW? AND ONE MORE THING I'LL SAY TO MR. PELTIER, HIS POINT OVER THERE ABOUT GROWTH.
I AGREE COMPLETELY THAT THE MARKET'S GOING TO DICTATE IT, BUT WE DON'T SEE PEOPLE FLEEING EUSTON AND WANTING THE SAME THING.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK UP THERE AND 89% OF THE LOSS ARE 60 FOOT OR UNDER, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GETTING RID OF.
THEY DON'T WANT THAT THEY'RE COMING DOWN HERE FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO YEAH, THE MARKET'S GOING TO DICTATE THAT THOSE LOTS OF THE ONES THAT SELL, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH OF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OTHER.
THE OTHER WOULD SELL FROM THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE FLOCKING DOWN HERE, IF THEY WERE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF AGB SAYING, OH, WE NEED X NUMBER OF HEADS OF PEOPLE.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 250 AND 200 TO HEB IS NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.
SO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR KIDS IN THE FRONT YARD, THAT'S A HUGE DEAL, 50 EXTRA HOUSES IN THAT ONE DEVELOPMENT.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THOSE BIGGER LOTS ARE WHAT MAKE THE CITIZENS HAPPY, HPV IS A NUMBER GAME THAT 50 PEOPLE, NOT THAT BIG, A DEAL, HUGE DEAL TO THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT POINT ABOUT THE MARKET DICTATE I AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID.
I, MY COMMENT ABOUT THE MARKET DICTATING, UH, WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY.
WE NEED, UH, 2000, WHATEVER IT IS OR AT THAT PERCENTAGE OF 1600, LOTS, 60 FOOT AND BELOW, THAT'S KIND OF AN OBSCENE NUMBER.
BUT AGAIN, WHAT I SAID, I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY BASED ON THE ABSORPTION RATE, THAT OUR HIGHEST YEARS, UM, WE MAY HAVE 70 HOMES A YEAR SALE.
UM, IF THE NUMBER WE HAVE NOW, IT SHOULD CREEP UP, BUT THIS COULD TAKE 30 YEARS TO BUILD OUT AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THAT LONG.
YOU KNOW, THEY'LL DO, LIKE I SAID, RANCHO, ISABELLA DO LIKE OTHERS.
THEY'LL BUILD ONE SECTION EMILE BUILT TWO, BUT JUST MY EXPERIENCE, I SEE HALF OF THEM NOT MAKING IT.
AND SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO EXPECT TO SEE 2000 NEW HOMES IN HERE.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE EVEN TELLING US, THEY'RE SAYING WE DON'T KNOW THE MARKET, BUT THEY WANT TO COME DOWN HERE AND TRY IT.
SO, BUT THERE ARE SOME DOWNSIDES TO IT.
AND, UH, SOME SITUATIONS THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO FAMILIAR.
I COULD GO IN JUST LIKE IN RANCHO, WE DID.
AND SOME OTHERS, WE TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY.
YOU BUY LOTS, YOU FINISH THEM OUT.
IF ONE SECTION WENT IN AND ONE OF THE SUBDIVISIONS AND, AND, UH, THEY PULLED OUT, SO THERE'S MARCUS TO SLOW SOMEONE LIKE ME OR SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD GO IN AND BUY THE REST OF THE LAND.
WE COULD REPLIED IT TO THE LOTS, LIKE INHERITED JOKES OF BUILD A HUNDRED, 125 FOOT WIDE, LOTS AND HERITAGE PARK.
WE HAD 80 FOOT LOTS, BUT COULD BUILD WHAT THE MARKET WANTS.
THE DOWNSIDE IS THAT PERIOD WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, IT'S SOMETHING NEW IN TOWN, BUT IT CARRIES ON THE LAND.
I JUST DON'T LIKE THE EXTRA TAXES CITIZENS HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.
SO THAT WOULD PROHIBIT ME FROM BUYING IT.
THAT'S THE ONE CONCERN I HAVE ON THESE SUBDIVISIONS THAT DON'T MAKE IT, CAUSE THAT TAX CARRIES, CARRIES OVER, BUT THERE'LL BE SOMEBODY WHO WILL COME IN.
AND, UH, IF IT'S JUST HOW IT WORKS, UH, THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, TO ME, I WANT TO BUILD WHAT THE CUSTOMER WANTS.
I BUILD 50 FOOT'S WENT OVER AND DID SOME DID WELL, DID 60 FOOT IN THE SECOND SECTION OF ROSEWOOD.
CAUSE IN THE FIRST SECTION, THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT AHEAD.
AND I SOLD OUT THAT SECTION IN RECORD TIME.
UM, AND THEN A JUMP OUT OF HERITAGE JOKES.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT A BIG LOTS AND
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MY NEW SECTION, HALF OF THEM ALREADY SPOKEN FOR CLOSE TO HALF, UH, CAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE WAITING FOR BIG LOTS.SO THE MARKET IS FLUID, BUT THERE IS A MARKET FOR EVERY SIZE HOUSE.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, THE NUMBERS, AS YOU SAID, 2000 IS KIND OF AN OBSCENE NUMBER FOR A TOWN, THE SIZE OF ANGLETON NICHES.
BUT THE REALITY IS MAJORITY OF THEM WON'T HAPPEN JUST, JUST BASED ON HISTORY, BUT IT COULD CHANGE, BUT UNLIKELY THAT'S NOT BEING THAT GIVES A DIRECT MANDATE AND CITY COUNCIL IT'S GOING TO GET BUILT ANYWAY.
SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, UM, WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.
UM, I WANT TO ADD, OR, UM, I DUNNO, AFFIRM IN SOME HIGH WHAT, WHAT YOU SAID IN TERMS OF, UM, THE SIZES OF, OF LOTS.
I'VE LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
UM, PEOPLE ARE LEAVING WHAT THEY DON'T WANT AND UM, ON SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD AND I'VE BEEN ON THE FACEBOOK DURING YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAID I LEFT PEAR LAND TO GO TO ANGLETON AND NOTHING AGAINST LAND.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN THAT, UM, BECAUSE I WAS HOPING NOT TO HAVE WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
UM, AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN THAT DON'T HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE SELF INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY AND WE, WE GET THAT.
UM, AND, AND WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS NOT BAD, BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S WHAT, WE'RE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING IS SAYING, OKAY, THANKS.
LET'S HAVE SOME COMMUNITY INPUT.
MAYBE LET'S HIT THE BREAK A LITTLE BIT.
LET'S SEE, UM, WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS BEFORE IT SPIRALS OUT OF CONTROL.
AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL FOR DOING THAT.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, YOUR, I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY ASTUTE.
PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THERE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANT.
AND, AND I THINK IN TERMS OF HEB AND IF, IF PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE, UM, TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY FOR WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO OFFER, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THEIR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND, AND ANGLETON HISTORICALLY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB SUPPORTING THEIR, THEIR BUSINESSES.
SO I THINK IF, IF, UM, THEY'RE PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THEIR HOUSE, THEY'LL SUPPORT A BIGGER AGB OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
SO I'M DEFINITELY A FAN OF THE FIELD OF DREAMS. SO IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
SO YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE IF WE BUILD A BIGGER ATB, I'M NOT GOING TO LIKE JACKSON.
UM, SO MY, MY OTHER COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE, AND THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO MR. PELTIER.
UM, SO THE PELTIER FAMILY, THEY HAVE MADE SOME VERY, VERY NICE HOMES.
UM, THEY MAKE CUSTOM BUILT HOMES.
THEY ARE NOT THESE BUILDERS THAT COME IN AND GIVE YOU THREE OPTIONS.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE GOING, IS BRINGING IN DEVELOPER THAT SAYS HERE'S NOT FIVE, FOUR PLANS PICK, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO THROW A DIFFERENT ELEVATION ON IT AND CALL IT A DIFFERENT HOUSE.
UM, AND THE SMALLER THAT YOU GO WITH, THESE, THESE LOTS, THE LOWER QUALITY OF BUILDER YOU'RE GOING TO GET, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE QUALITY OUT OF MR. PELTIER IN A 40 FOOT LOT.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET THESE TRACK HOMES THAT ARE JUST PARTICLE BOARD CABINETS, LOW END FIXTURES.
AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LONG-TERM OF HOW WELL IS THAT HOUSE GOING TO LOOK IN 30 YEARS FROM NOW? IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE NICE HOUSES ON CANON? OR IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE A FALLEN APART? YOU KNOW, THE SIDING IS ALL DISCOLORED HANGING DOWN.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WANT IT TO MOVE INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OF HOUSES THAT WERE PUT IN THERE, PLEASE SHORTER YOU LUCKY GUY.
SO MY NAME IS CYNTHIA ERICKSON.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ANGLETON FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND I'VE COME BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE CITY ON.
SO NUMBER ONE, I APPRECIATE THE FORM AND OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
SO THE COMPLIMENTS NUMBER TWO, THE CONFIDENCE, UM, A YEAR OR SO AGO, I SMELLED GAS.
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AND SO I THOUGHT, WELL, IT'S NOTHING.AND THEN I WENT TO WORK HERE IN TOWN.
I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, BETTER BE SAFE THAN SORRY.
I CALLED NINE 11 SAID, HEY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING BIG, BUT MAYBE I SMELL SOME GAS AT MY HOUSE BEFORE I WAS ABLE TO GET FROM MY PLACE OF WORK, FOUR BLOCKS FROM WHERE I LIVE, THERE WERE TWO FIRE TRUCKS AND AMBULANCE AND TEXAS NEW MEXICO OUT THERE, CHECKING IT OUT.
SO NOT BECAUSE OF THE GAS CAUSE Y'ALL HANDLED IT.
SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL TAKING CARE OF BASICS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT MADE, MADE ME FEEL LIKE I MADE A GOOD CHOICE, MADE ME FEEL SAFE AND THE ISSUE WAS HANDLED.
I ALSO APPRECIATE VERY MUCH, UM, THE FACT THAT YOU PUT THESE THINGS AND YOU PUT THAT YOU PUT THESE THINGS ON FACEBOOK, LIVE, UNDERSTAND IT'S NO SMALL EXPENSE TO COORDINATE AND SET UP THE ELECTRONIC INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT WITHOUT HAVING TO GIVE UP OUR LIVES.
I COULD GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND I PROBABLY WILL, AFTER I GET A CHANCE TO ADDRESS YOU BECAUSE I COULD, I COULD LITERALLY PARTICIPATE WHILE TAKING CARE OF, OF MY OWN PERSONAL BUSINESS.
AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE TO BE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE TOWN.
SHOULD THERE BE SOMETHING I SHOWED I SO DESIRED TO MAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING THIS ACCESSIBLE.
APPRECIATE Y'ALL LOOKING AFTER THE LITTLE THINGS I LOOK FORWARD TO IT IN THE FUTURE.
SO I'M GOING TO GIVE MY, UH, PAY POLITICAL ANNOUNCEMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, TRACKING FIVE MINUTE RESPONSE TIMES, UH, SAME THING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF BEING HERE, A COUPLE POTENTIAL HURRICANES, COVID EVERYTHING ELSE.
UM, AND THEY, THEY'VE ALL DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF RESPONDING AND, YOU KNOW, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE, JASON, YOU KNOW, 90% VOLUNTEER.
AND, YOU KNOW, SAME THING GOES WITH OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR AMBULANCE SERVICE.
UH, BUT THEY'RE JUST A GREAT BUNCH OF FOLKS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK JOHN AND JASON AND I KIND OF GET THE ADVANTAGE OF SEEING THEM FROM THE INSIDE, WHETHER IT'S A RIDE ALONG OR BEING PART OF A CALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UH, I MEAN, TH YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT GROWTH AND ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, POLICE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UH, AND FIRE, I MEAN, THAT'S, THOSE ARE RARE COMMODITY AND, UH, THEY DO, THEY DO THEIR JOB WELL, AND, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WORD.
UH, WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THEM AND IN THE FOLKS THAT RUN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS SO I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID.
AND, UH, WITH THE NICE LADY YOU JUST SAID.
UM, AND SO IF WE LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF THE HOUSES ON THIS COMMUNITY, UM, THAT IMPACT OBVIOUSLY HAS AN EFFECT ON OUR POLICE FORCE, AMBULANCE, FIRE RESPONSE.
UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INVEST MORE IN GETTING UNITS, GETTING SATELLITE LOCATIONS, UM, AND BEING THAT 85% OF OUR, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT IS VOLUNTEER.
AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT CAP OUT, AND WE HAVE TO START INVESTING MORE MONEY TO ACTUALLY HIRE, UM, A FIREMAN BECAUSE WE RAN OUT OF ADDITIONAL VOLUNTEERS.
AND SO, UM, I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT A SMALL TOWN VERSUS THE EXPANSION, UM, ALL OF THOSE ASPECTS HAVE TO GO INTO IT.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE, THE WATER SUPPLY, WASTEWATER TREATMENT, ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE TO GO INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO WHAT AFFECTS, YOU KNOW, UM, SNOWBALL EFFECTS IS THIS TYPE OF EXPANSION WITH THIS NUMBER OF HOUSES GOING TO HAVE IN THE, IN, IN OUR, OUR PHYSICAL BUDGET AND OUR TAX RATES.
I MEAN, ALL THAT STUFF HAS TO BE FUNDED SOMEHOW.
UM, SO THE, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON THE CITIZENS IS GOING TO BE MORE BURDENSOME, UM, IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN THAT.
ALRIGHT, DO YOU WANT TO STEP UP AND READ FOR US OR, UH, ON COUNCIL NIGHTS? UM, FIRST QUESTION WAS, UM, FROM MR. CHRISTIAN AND WANTS TO MAKE SURE WE
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ADDRESS FIXING THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY CURRENTLY, BEFORE ADDING MORE ISSUES, MR. GALT, UH, ROOFTOPS BRING THE RESTAURANTS THAT EVERYONE WHINES ABOUT NOT HAVING, HE SAYS, YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CHICK-FIL-A AND EAT IT TOO WITHOUT GETTING THE GROWTH THAT YOU NEED.AND HE SAID, SO WE NEED TO DECIDE WHICH WAY WE WANT ANGLETON TO BE.
DO WE WANT IT TO BE A SMALL TOWN, OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT LARGER WITH MORE COMMERCIAL RETAIL GROWTH? MR. BOREN SAYS WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY IN THE EXPANSION OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, THIS WILL INCREASE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
AND I'M CURIOUS IF WE HAVE ANY PLANS FOR ADDING ANOTHER OPTION OF BYPASS TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
I THINK HIS BIGGEST CONCERN HERE, AND I'M PROBABLY READ THE REST OF IT, BUT, UM, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE REALLY ONE OVERPASS IN THE CITY AND WHAT THE EXPANSION OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN AND THE ADDED RAIL RAIL YARD THAT WE'VE HAD, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC GOING ACROSS THAT RAILROAD AND TRY TO FIND ANOTHER OVER OVERPASS FOR THEM? UH, HE SAYS, THIS IS AFFECTS THE RESPONSE TIME FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.
MISS NAYLOR SAYS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE CITY COUNCIL, ETC.
ABOUT CLEANING UP THE BUSINESSES ON 2D EIGHT B? I KNOW SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE IMPROVEMENT TO THEIR PROPERTY TO MAKE IT LOOK NICER.
IF YOU REALLY LOOK AROUND, IT LOOKS TRASHY.
SO THOSE ARE THE MOST COMMENTS I'VE SEEN SO FAR.
UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY, WHY ALLOW SO MANY NEW HOMES? SO, UM, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT JUST CAME IN, UH, PIT TAX ON NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SEEMS HIGH.
ARE WE PAYING FOR THE COST TO PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE LOT OR PAYING ADDITIONAL FOR INFRASTRUCTURE RENEWAL? WE ALREADY ARE PAYING HIGH ENOUGH TAXES TO COVER THAT THE CITY WANTS NEW HOUSING, BUT PUTTING THE BURDEN ON AN ADDITIONAL PIT TAX ON TOP OF THE EXISTING TAXES DOES NOT ENTICE NEW HOME BUYERS.
SO JOHN, CAN YOU CAPTURE, OH SECOND, WE GOT IT.
I'LL APOLOGIZE FOR COMING IN LATE.
AND IF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, UH, OR YOUR GOOD, YOUR SAY YOUR PIECE OR ASK A QUESTION OR WHATEVER.
UM, IF YOU'LL THE NEW STUFF THAT IS COMING TO YOU NOW, I CAME TO THEIR COUNCIL.
I'M GOING TO TELL THE OTHER EVENING, AND THE GUY SAID, ARE YOU INTERESTED OR NOT? Y'ALL SAID, NO, HE WALKED AWAY.
BUT ONE THING I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD NOT DO IS ADD FEES AND, AND, UH, STOP STUFF THAT YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY ALREADY APPROVED.
YOU GO, THEY HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT, THEY'RE MOVING DIRT.
AND AS A LENDER, NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE CITY SAYS, HEY, WE NEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE KATHY, WE NEED PARK FEE.
WHEN IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY SAID AS, UM, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT AS A, AS A LENDER, WE THINK WE HAVE A BUDGET AND WE THINK THE PROJECT IS A GO.
AND THEN CITY COUNCIL, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE MAY SAY, WE CHANGE OUR MIND.
WE, WE ALREADY HAVE THESE OTHER 800 LOTS.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THE FINAL APPROVAL FOR YOUR 200, SO NEW STUFF.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT THE STUFF THAT'S ALREADY ON THE GROUND AND ALREADY MOVING EITHER THIS CITY COUNCIL OR ANOTHER HAS ALREADY BLESSED IT IN A WAY OR ELSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN STARTED.
RIGHT? SO, SO I, I WILL SAY, UH, WE WERE KIND OF BACKWARDS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS WERE MOVING AND IN PLACE AND WE DIDN'T PUT THOSE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPERS.
SO WE HAD A MEETING ON 30 MARCH WHERE WE HAD ALL THE DEVELOPERS IN, IT WAS KINDA LIKE A RODEO.
WE ALL WORE HATS AND DANCE AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, BUT WE WALKED AWAY WITH AGREEMENTS FOR ALL THE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE CURRENT STUFF THAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO, UM, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, CHRIS MENTIONED THE PIT POLICY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD FOLKS TALKING ABOUT PIDS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICY.
SO WE PUT A POLICY IN PLACE AND NOW WE'RE NOW WE'RE ALL FALLING INTO POLICY.
AND, UH, THE GOODNESS OF THAT AND DOING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS UPFRONT IS WE TAKE ALL THAT ANXIOUS OUT OF THE WAY.
ONCE THE PAPER SIGNED, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GO BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE WANT YOU TO DO THIS.
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YEAH.AND, AND IT MAY NOT BE RELEVANT TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, AND I APPRECIATE THOSE AGREEMENTS, BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN COMING TO COUNCIL OFF AND ON FOR A YEAR.
AND IT'S SOMETIME IT'S BEEN THE SAME PEOPLE WITH THE SAME PROJECT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE DELAY IS ON THEIR PART OR IF THE TARGET IS MOVING.
UH, BUT SOMEHOW WE, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET THIS STUFF FINISHED AND GET IT FUNDED AND GET HOUSES BUILT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BUY THEM OR NOT.
I MEAN, UH, ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
NOW WE'RE ON THE SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT?
SO FOR COMMERCIAL, UM, THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY AS MUCH AS I AM A DIEHARD CHICK-FIL-A PERSON, UM, I DON'T MIND GOING TO LIKE JACKSON FOR THAT.
UM, WE HAVE TOO MANY FAST FOOD.
AND SO IF THERE WAS ONE COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS ENOUGH OF THE FAST FOOD.
WE NEED THE OTHER RESTAURANTS.
AND YES, I UNDERSTAND IF YOU GOT PEOPLE, YOU GET MORE RESTAURANTS, BUT, UM, THE, OUR BEST RESTAURANTS HERE ARE BASICALLY FAMILY OWNED ANYWAY.
UM, THE ONLY MAINSTREAM ONE REALLY IS CHILI'S.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE LACONA, I KNOW THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS.
UM, AND THEN GIOVANNI'S, AND I MEAN, THOSE ARE ALL LIKE SMALL TOWN RESTAURANTS, BUT THOSE ARE THE FAVORITES OF THIS TOWN.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST SAY NO, NO MORE FAST FOOD.
UM, AS FAR AS OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT WE NOW HAVE A BARKS.
THERE IS A PLACE TO AT LEAST GET SOME SORT OF CLOTHING HERE OTHER THAN WALMART.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE CLOSE TO LIKE JACKSON, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO BRINGING IN BUSINESSES.
AND I REALLY WISH THAT, UM, WE HAD SOME MORE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY ON 35 BECAUSE 35 NEEDS TO BE REVITALIZED.
I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT PART OF THAT.
UM, I DO THINK THAT EITHER SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH OUR CURRENT BUILDINGS, BECAUSE SOME OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE JUST BEING LEFT VACANT WHILE NEW BUILDINGS ARE BEING BUILT.
AND, UH, TO THE COMMON TO SOMEONE ONLINE THAT SAID THAT 2 88 WAS LOOKING TRASHY WELL, 35 IS LOOKING TRASHY, UM, FOR THAT VERY REASON BECAUSE THINGS ARE JUST SITTING THERE AND DETERIORATING, UM, AND IT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE FOR ANYBODY.
AND SO EITHER WE NEED TO DEMO AND START OVER IN, IN SOME OF THESE AREAS AND REUTILIZE THE SPACE THAT'S THERE INSTEAD OF PUTTING NEW BUSINESSES ON EMPTY SPACE, WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT BUILT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE BUSINESSES COMING IN AND BUILDING NEW BUILDINGS, NEW BUILDINGS, NEW BUILDINGS, AND ALL THE OLDER ONES JUST SIT THERE AND FALL APART.
UM, AND SO THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME SORT OF BALANCE THERE.
SO THAT WAY, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST GONNA LOOK UGLY IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS INDUSTRIAL, UM, MY COMMENT WOULD BE NOT WITHIN THE ANGLETON PROPER, UM, WHATEVER OUR OUTLYING AREAS ARE.
UM, THAT WOULD BE PERFECTLY OKAY.
IF WE CAN BRING MORE JOBS, THAT'S MORE REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
UM, I JUST WOULD NOT WANT ANGLETON TO GET SO CLUSTERED AND CROWDED AND PUTTING IN AN INDUSTRIAL PLACE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO WHEN WE TALK INDUSTRIAL.
I JUST HAVE THINGS RUNNING IN MY HEAD AND THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING ATTRACTIVE IN MAINE, MAINE ANGLETON.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT THAT MIGHT BE.
SO, SO, SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IF YOU WANT.
UM, SO WE HAD THE MIKE BARNES GROUP COME DOWN AND DO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, MET WITH THE CHAMBER, MET WITH LOCAL BUSINESS LEADERS, MET WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND KINDA LIKE I SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT.
SO WE WOULDN'T BRING IN, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY, UH, TO MY DISMAY, LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, A WHISKEY PLACE, RIGHT.
WHISKEY DISTILLERY, BECAUSE I USE A LOT OF WATER.
UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT ANGLETON BECAUSE WE HAVE A POOR, BECAUSE WE HAVE RAIL BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS CORRIDOR OR ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WOULD BE DISTRIBUTION, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UH, WAREHOUSING.
AND I'M NOT TALKING SELF-STORAGE UNITS, I'M TALKING, YOU KNOW,
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INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING, UH, MANUFACTURING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.AND SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SUGGESTIONS TO US.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, UM, PAYING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPER TO DO IS GO FIND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, AND TO YOUR POINT, NOT PUT THEM DOWNTOWN ON, YOU KNOW, 2 74 LOOP, 74, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE SOMEWHERE THAT'S ZONE THAT SOMEWHERE, THAT'S NOT IN THE CITY, UH, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE OLDER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE VACANT BUILDINGS THAT AROUND THERE AND, UH, OUR, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT BUILDING STANDARDS, WE LOOK AT THAT FOR NOT ONLY COMMERCIAL AND, AND, UH, RETAIL, BUT WE ALSO LOOK AT FOR RESIDENTS TOO.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LOOK AT THE CODE, WE GO BY THE CODE IS NOT BY, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY APPEARANCE.
I MEAN, PAINT PEELING IS NOT A REASON TO CONDEMN A BUILDING.
UM, BUT IF THE GUTTERS FALLEN OFF OR THERE'S A HOLE IN THE ROOF, OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN NOTICE, UM, OR, OR ARE REPORTED, THEN WE CAN GO INVESTIGATE AND MOVE THEM ALONG PROPERLY.
SO THEY KEEP THEIR BUILDING IN FUNCTIONAL ORDER.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLE HEARTEDLY.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE EITHER TO LIVE HERE OR TO WORK HERE OR TO, UM, SET UP A BUSINESS HERE IS THAT THE APPEARANCE OF THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, VACANT BUILDINGS HURT US IN THAT ASPECT.
SO JUST TO SHARE MY 2 CENTS, UM, I, I AGREE.
AND THAT SOUNDS, UM, AS FAR AS INDUSTRIAL, THAT SOUNDS, UM, UH, TO ME, UM, PROMISING AND, AND INTERESTING.
UM, SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
IF WE HAVE THAT KIND OF ON THE OUTSKIRTS AND, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE WILLING TO COME IN AND SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY, UM, IN TERMS OF BUSINESSES FOR ME PERSONALLY, I AM NOT INTERESTED.
WE HAVE, UM, AGAIN, TO THE SOUTH OF US, TO THE NORTH OF US, WE HA WE HAVE, UM, BIGGER BOXES THAT ARE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
I THINK WE HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE STARTED DOWNTOWN, UM, IN OUR REVITALIZATION OF, UM, SUPPORTING LOCALLY OWNED FAMILY OWNED, UH, CREATIVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE, THAT DON'T NECESSARILY FIT A MOLD.
UM, AND, UH, AS THE MANAGER OF THE FARMER'S MARKET, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SKILLS WHO HAVE A DESIRE WHO ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS A, UM, MARKET FOR THEIR WARES IN OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR MISSION IS TO BE A SMALL BUSINESS INCUBATOR.
UM, HOW FUN WOULD IT BE IF, IF THE SMALLER, UM, FAMILY RUN ENTITIES WERE, UM, SUPPORTED AND HAD A PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY? SO, SO MY VISION IS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF SOMETHING MORE QUAINT AND UNIQUE, AS OPPOSED TO A BIG BOX, SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN GET 30 MILES, ONE WAY, 15 MILES, ANOTHER WAY, UM, IN ANY 30 TOWNS ALONG THE WAY, THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT.
AND I KNOW IN A LOT OF CITIES, THEY, THEY TAKE OLD BUILDINGS AND THEY BUY THEM AND THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GOT THEM, RENOVATE THEM AND MAKE 'EM A FUNCTIONAL WHATEVER FOR THAT START A BUSINESS TO GIVE THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE RENT'S TOO HIGH OR WHATEVER, GIVE THEM THAT PLACE AS A START, YOU KNOW, START BUILDING THAT THEY HAVE A LEASE FOR A YEAR, BUILD THEIR BUSINESS AND THEN GO FIND THEIR, GO FIND THEIR PERMANENT HOME.
OH, IT'S A ONE TIME I CAN DIRECT YOU OTHERWISE YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.
SO, UH, THE COMMENT WAS SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THE VERY TIGHT CLUSTER RENTAL HOUSES THAT ARE THE DEPLORABLE CONDITION AT THE CORNER OF 2 74 AND CEDAR CATTY CORNER FROM CVS.
I SINCERELY DOUBT THEY MEET CODE AND WAS CERTAINLY AN EYESORE.
THAT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE I WAS READING.
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14 YEAR OLD RANGE AND THEIR COMPLAINT WAS THE, HAVE NOTHING TO DO IN HIS TOWN.DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY PLANS TO BRING ANY KIND OF ENTERTAINMENT? UM, MAYBE TO SOME OF THESE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE HERE WHERE WE CAN ALLOW THE, TO GO OUT AND HAVE A GOOD TIME TO KEEP HIM OUT OF TROUBLE, KEEP HIM FROM THEM DRUGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO KEEP HIM OCCUPIED.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS I DO, IF THEY'RE NOT IN SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO GET INTO SOMETHING.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA TO MAYBE SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS DOWN HERE ON 2D EIGHT BUSINESS, THAT OUR EYES SORES, COULD WE TURN THEM INTO, YOU KNOW, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BUSINESS TO START FOR ENTERTAINMENT FOR THOSE MILLENNIALS AND, AND THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS, VERY COMMON.
SO ONE THING WE ALL DO, AND WHILE CHRIS IS WALKING UP, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING HARD ON OUR PARKS AND TO MODERNIZE OUR PARKS, WE GOT LAKESIDE PARK COMING ONLINE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT REHABILITATING.
A COUPLE OTHER PARKS IS OUR SORT OF OUR PART IN THAT PROCESS.
UM, THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO SAY WE HAVE, I'VE BEEN ON THE PARKS BOARD FOR YEARS AND IT'S, UM, MEGAN HAS BEEN, UH, SHE RUNS A PARK PARKS DIRECTOR AND, UH, WE HAVE A VERY PROFESSIONAL RUN PARKS AND ACTUALLY THE WHOLE CITY IT'S, UH, I'VE BEEN COMING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR PROBABLY 30 YEARS, UH, THROUGHOUT EITHER SERVING ON BOARDS OR STUFF.
AND, AND THIS MANAGER, THEIR STAFF, WALTER, THE COUNCIL, UM, THEY'RE VERY RESPONSIVE.
THEY, THEY WANT SOMETHING HE WANT, THEY WANT ANGLETON TO BE BETTER, BUT, UH, UH, I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH THIS GROUP.
SO I THINK THAT THIS TOAD HOLDING THIS MEETING, YOU CAN TELL, THEY WANT TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.
SO WE'VE GOT A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE WORKING HERE, BUT BACK TO THE PARKS, WHAT YOU SAID, UH, MEGAN'S VERY RESPONSIVE AS WELL.
IF YOU WERE TO EMAIL HER SOMETHING, SHE'S A PARKS DIRECTOR HERE AT THE CITY.
SHE HAS ALWAYS DOING SURVEYS AND STUFF.
BUT AS MR. WHITAKER SAID, WE HAVE LIKE SAD PART COMING ON THE LINE.
WE HAVE PLANS FOR SOME ENHANCEMENTS AT FREEDOM PARK AND LOOKING AT SOUTH SIDE PARKS.
AND, AND MOST OF THESE THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, THE ABL SEABOARD, UH, WE USE SALES TAX.
IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF YOUR PROPERTY TAX, SO IT'S NOT TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM STREETS AND ON THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE PROJECTS.
BUT, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT QUALITY OF LIFE, WHETHER YOU HAVE KIDS, WHETHER YOU'RE ADULTS, SENIORS, WHATEVER, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
UH, PARKS MAY PLAY A BIG PART IN THAT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THE GROWTH, TRYING TO KEEP, AND I'M ON THE PARKS BOARD.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF PLUGGING IN AS WELL, BUT WE, UH, UH, AWARE OF WHAT'S COMING, BUT THERE'S, AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THESE LITTLE HOUSES, UM, THE, UM, WHEN I SAID, I WASN'T FOR THIS QUANTITY OF THEM, IT'S, IT'S NOT ANY, UH, I'M NOT TRYING TO MANAGE WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS DONE.
LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE A GREAT GROUP OF GUYS.
I KNOW THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST.
SO, UM, DON'T TAKE THAT, TAKE THAT AWAY.
BUT THE SMALLER HOUSES, THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NEED PLACES TO GO TAKE THEIR DOGS GOING AND DEEP PLACES TO DO THINGS.
AND, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THE GAME AND, AND, UM, I THINK, UH, EITHER ELLEN OR MR. WHITAKER BROUGHT UP ABOUT DELIVERABILITY STUDIES, UH, I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN SOME SUBDIVISIONS FROM OUT-OF-STATE OR ELSEWHERE THAT TRANSFERRED HERE AND, AND THEY LOVE IT.
EVEN THE LITTLE THING WE HAVE CONCERT IN THE PARK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CITIES DON'T HAVE THAT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UH, ANGLETON HAS GONE FOR IT, BUT, UH, I'VE, I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE GROUP WE HAVE NOW, AND I THINK THEY'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SOME NAMES WE'LL SEE, MS. STUTZMAN SAYS, WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE ENTERTAINMENT, BUSINESSES KIND OF GOING ALONG WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD, MOVIES, WATERPARKS, GO-CARTS ARCADE, SOMETHING TO DO.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, MS. MCMAHON, JODY SAYS THE PARKS ARE GREAT, BUT THEY'RE COLD RAIN.
AND AT NIGHTTIME, WHAT DO THE KIDS DO THEN? AND THEN I HAD, UH, MS. OWENS ANGLETON NEEDS AN OUTLET MALL, MORE BUSINESSES TO SHOP LOCAL AND THEN REVITALIZING HIS EXISTING BUILDINGS WOULD BE GREAT.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, UM, EARLIER ABOUT OUR REVITALIZED, A REVITALIZATION OF, UH, THE DOWNTOWN, UH, BUSINESSES AND WHAT WE'VE DONE THERE AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES.
AND IF WE COULD LIKE COPY AND PASTE THAT KIND OF CONCEPT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, I THINK
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THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SELL AS A CITY.YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OUR, OTHER THAN THE HEART OF ANGLETON? I MEAN, WHAT IS OUR TRADEMARK? WHAT IS OUR, UM, WHAT IS OUR POSTCARD? AND, AND SO HAVING THAT TYPE OF STUFF IS, IS REALLY COOL AS A RESIDENT TO HAVE THAT.
IT'S, UM, FORGIVE THE ANALOGY, BUT IT'S LIKE SIXTH STREET IN AUSTIN, RIGHT? IT'S THAT IS THEIR TRADEMARK.
AND SO I THINK IF WE, IF WE COULD TAKE THAT SAME CONCEPT AND APPLY IT TO ALL THESE AREAS THAT, UM, WE FEEL ARE NOT UP TO PAR, UM, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS CITY, LIKE JUST BLOSSOM INTO ITS NEW CULTURE AND A NEW MINDSET AND EMBRACE ALL THE NEW BIT, OR, YOU KNOW, THESE, UH, UM, INDEPENDENTLY OWNED BUSINESSES.
I JUST, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT CONCEPT AND THESE LIVABLE SPACES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR DOWNTOWN.
IF WE, LIKE, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE AMAZING IF WE COULD REPLICATE THAT MINDSET OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE OF JUST THIS DOWNTOWN AREA AND APPLY IT THROUGHOUT TOWN.
UM, MY OTHER COMMENT, UM, AS A, AS A MUSICIAN, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE, LIKE THE CONCERT IN THE PARKS IS GREAT, BUT IF WE ACTUALLY HAD LIKE SOME SORT OF PERFORMANCE SPACE WHERE WE CAN BRING IN GROUPS AND WE CAN BRING IN, UM, PERFORMANCES OF ALL KINDS, WHETHER IT BE THEATER OR MUSIC OR, OR WHATEVER, IF WE HAD A FACILITY THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO BRING MORE ENTERTAINMENT, UM, INTO THE, UH, INTO THE TOWN, I'D BE TOTALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND THAT.
CAN I, CAN I, UH, JUMP ON THAT BANDWAGON? ABSOLUTELY.
SO, UM, IF YOU NOTICE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN VETERAN'S PARK, RIGHT? SO THE, THE, UH, GAZYVA HAS GONE AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, AN ENGINEERING FARM SLASH ARCHITECT TO, TO REDESIGN THAT.
AND SO SOME OF THE CONCEPTS WE TALKED ABOUT IS PUTTING A PERMANENT PLATFORM STAGE IN, IN ONE PART OF THE PARK, SO THAT IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE AND YOU UTILIZE ALL THE SPACE.
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, POTENTIALLY CLOSING SHENANGO BETWEEN, UH, VETERAN'S PARK IN THE PARKING LOT ON THE EAST, AGAIN, TO EXPAND THAT.
AND SO HOW DO YOU POSITION THE SPACE STAGE TO UTILIZE ALL THAT CONCEPT? UM, AND THEN ON A SEMI DIFFERENT NOTE.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE HAD FOUR CONCERTS IN THE PARK, ACTUALLY THREE, BECAUSE ONE RAINED OUT, BUT THAT STAGE HAS BEEN UP FOR 30 DAYS, RIGHT? SO, UH, WHAT MARTHA AND I, UM, TALKED ABOUT IS HOW DO WE UTILIZE THAT SPACE FOR POP-UP PERFORMANCES OR SOMETHING ELSE? AND WE HAVE A STAGE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO, HOW DO WE MARKET THAT? AND LET PEOPLE USE THAT, YOU KNOW, AT LITTLE OR NO COST, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GROW, UH, YOU KNOW, MUSIC HERE IN ANGLETON AND GROW THAT AS EVENT GROW THAT AS A BANK.
UM, SO I COMMEND Y'ALL AND LOOKING INTO THAT, UM, TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT, UM, THAT THAT'S FANTASTIC.
AND AS FAR AS THE, THE, UH, LIVABLE SPACES, UM, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE'VE HAD THE THEME OR THAT MOTTO OF KEEPING WILTON BEAUTIFUL FOR DECADES.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT IS REALLY THE CHARGE AT THIS POINT IS THAT WE NEED TO LIVE UP TO THAT LOGO, UM, AND ACTUALLY KEEP ANGLETON ACTUALLY BEAUTIFUL.
AND SO, UM, THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE TOWN THAT ARE NOT SO BEAUTIFUL REALLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND WE, AND I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT, THAT MOTTO AROUND WHEN YOU REALIZE YOU NEED TO LIVE UP TO IT.
AND I THINK THAT THE INDEPENDENT BUSINESSES, THE LIKE THE LITTLE BILL CENTERS THAT REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN, I THINK MIGHT BE, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT ANGLETON WOULD FULLY GET BEHIND.
AND AT THE RISK OF TALKING TOO MUCH, I WANT TO JUMP ON THAT BANDWAGON AS WELL.
WE HAVE, UM, LIVE MUSIC EVERY SATURDAY MORNING.
UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE A VERY THRIVING IN THE AREA, UM, NETWORK, THE MUSIC COMMUNITY IS REALLY STRONG AND THEY SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER.
AND THEY, UM, THE VENUES RIGHT NOW ARE OUR BARS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO, WHICH IS NOT ANYTHING IT'S WONDERFUL BECAUSE IT'S SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO TAKE THAT.
UM, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO TAKE THAT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION OTHER THAN, UM, I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MUSICIANS WHO, UM, WOULD WELCOME AN OPPORTUNITY WOULD SUPPORT.
AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A COMMUNITY, UM, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THAT IS ALSO WILLING TO SUPPORT, UM, THE, THE, THE MUSIC, UH, AND IN OUR AREA.
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AND THEN, AND THEN DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEVELOP THAT, UM, MAYBE BRING IN, YOU CAN BRING IN OTHER LOCAL MUSICIANS AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, UM, BIGGER MUSICIANS, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A VERY STRONG MUSIC COMMUNITY AND, UM, A VERY STRONG, UM, NETWORK OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.UH, AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO, UM, WHAT YOU SAID, THE, OH, PEEP ANGLETON, BEAUTIFUL.
I KNOW THAT THE GROUP, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE, WE'RE COMMENDING, I MEAN REALLY COMMENDING YOU AND COMMENDING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHARGE RIGHT NOW.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE GROUP THAT IS DOING KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL RIGHT NOW IS, IS WORKING SUPER DILIGENTLY TO, UM, ELIMINATE EYESORES TOO.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY ARE VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN DOING THAT.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S, UH, A BEAUTIFUL NOTION AND AN, AND A NICE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF AS WELL.
UM, IT'S BEAUTIFUL, GREAT JOB BETWEEN THE BOX WRAPS AND THE RECYCLING CLEAN UP STUFF.
AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING SOME MEDIAN BEAUTIFICATION OUT THERE AND YEAH.
AND THEY'VE GOTTEN RID OF SOME EYESORE.
I MEAN, THEY'VE GOTTEN RID OF A LOT OF EYESORES IN THE COMMUNITY, SO YEAH, NO, I, I THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB.
SO TRAVIS, YOU GOT SOMETHING THERE, YOU SIGNALING FOR OPENING.
I MEAN, THERE'S A FEW COMMENTS, I GUESS, UM, MR. ABE BEAR LIKES THE CONCERT IN THE PARK WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE MORE OF THAT.
UM, MS. MAYNARD SAYS WE NEED A TENNIS COMPLEX.
UM, AND THEN MS. LOPEZ SAYS, BE GREAT TO HAVE AN, A PLACE FOR INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT.
AND ALSO A PLACE WHERE THERE COULD BE A VENDOR SHOWS AND ET CETERA.
I THINK SHE'S REFERRING TO EVERYTHING ON INDOORS, UM, DUE TO THE HEAT AND HUMIDITY AROUND HERE.
UM, THE OLD MR. AVERY OR THE OLD WINE GARDENS BUILDING NEXT TO ANDRES IS LARGE ENOUGH FOR INDOOR ACTIVITIES.
NOT SURE ABOUT HOW HIGH THE CEILING IS FOR TENNIS COURT, SO GREAT OR POOR DODGE BALL.
CAN WE DO THAT AS WELL? DUCK DODGE DUCK.
UM, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED, MADE ME THINK ABOUT SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SITS IN THIS TOWN AND DOESN'T GET TONS OF USE, BUT TAKES UP TONS OF SPACE IS OUR FAIRGROUNDS.
AND WHAT IF WE COULD TRANSFORM OUR FAIRGROUNDS INTO A MULTI FACILITY TYPE COMPLEX THAT CAN BE UTILIZED IN DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO WE'VE GOT THE HUGE PARKING LOT OVER THERE.
WE CAN ACCOMMODATE TONS OF PEOPLE.
UM, WHAT CAN WE DO THERE THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, OPEN IT UP TO A PLETHORA OF THINGS WE CAN BRING IN FESTIVALS AND, UM, AND BRING IN CONFERENCES OR, OR ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? THE, I MEAN, THE SPACE IS HUGE.
IF WE JUST KIND OF REPURPOSED IT, MAYBE LOOK AT BUILDING DIFFERENT STRUCTURES OUT THERE THAT WOULD STILL SERVE THE PURPOSE OF OUR FARE, UM, WHEN IT'S HERE, BUT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY HAVE A WAY TO BRING IN MORE REVENUE INTO THE CITY BY BEING ABLE TO, UH, TO LEASE OUT THOSE SPACES.
AND THAT HUGE AREA IS JUST, IT'S KIND OF GOING TO WASTE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR.
SO JUST, UH, SO WE, WE MARKET THAT PLACE AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, HERE'S, HERE'S ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, YOU KNOW, IN IRAN ANGLETON, AND, BUT IT'S, BUT IT IS COUNTY.
WELL, WE, WE, UH, THERE WAS A GUN SWINGER, A VAN OUT THERE, 11, 12, AND THAT WAS APPARENTLY A GREAT EVENT.
BUT SO TH THERE'S THINGS COMING THAT, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN ANGLETON AND INTERESTED IN THE FAIRGROUNDS, UM, NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GETTING HIM TO PARTNER WITH MARKET DAYS.
SO WHEN YOU GET TO MARK DAYS, YOU'VE GOT SHOPPING, YOU'VE GOT FOOD, YOU'VE GOT EVENTS.
SO IT BECOMES SORT OF LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST LIKE A, YOU KNOW, FESTIVAL OR CARNIVAL ATMOSPHERE.
UM, AND, AND THEY'LL BOTH BENEFIT EACH OTHER.
THE FOLKS COME OUT TO WATCH JEFF AND HIS FOLKS WILL GO SHOP AND THE FOLKS COME UP SHOP, WE'LL GO WATCH KEVIN AND HIS FOLKS
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I'M LOOKING FOR FACEBOOK HELP AREA OR SOMETHING.I'M REALLY TRYING TO STAY ON THE MIC.
SO
UM, IF YOU RECALL AT A COUNCIL MEETING A TIME OR TWO IS, UH, WE JUST, I THINK IT WAS EITHER MINE OR JOHN'S IDEA TO HAVE THIS, UH, THIS FORMAL MEETING WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND SEE, KIND OF GET SOME INPUT FROM THEM.
UM, UH, I, I'M GLAD THAT YOU GUYS SHOWED UP.
I'M GLAD WE HAD SOME PARTICIPATION ON FACEBOOK.
I WISH THERE WAS MORE, UM, JUST TO HEAR, TO GET A, UH, UH, A LARGER SAMPLING, BUT WE HEAR IT EVERY DAY.
UM, PEOPLE WATCH CITY COUNCIL AND THEY, THEY KIND OF KNOW MY POSITION, UH, CAUSE WE'RE WHERE, KIND OF WHERE I STAND WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, ONE OF MY BIG POSITIONS IS OF COURSE IS THE HOUSING.
AND HOWEVER WE SAY IT OR DEFINE IT IS ON AFFORDABILITY.
MY AFFORDABILITY MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN MR. BROWN'S, MAYBE A PASTOR IT'S ALL DIFFERENT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I LOOK AT WHEN I LOOK AT SOME DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE ACCOUNTS, WHICH ARE VERY TOUGH DECISIONS BECAUSE THIS IMPACTS OUR COMMUNITY FOR, FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
AND, UH, JUST WHAT I LOOK AT IS WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT SMALL LOTS VERSUS LARGER LOTS, UM, IT COMES DOWN TO THE DOLLAR AND 20, 30 YEARS AGO, MR. PELTIER COULD PROBABLY CONFIRM ACRE LAND AND THE CITY WAS PROBABLY TWO OR $3,000.
TWO HOUSES ON AN ACRE, STILL MAKE A NICE PROFIT AS A DEVELOPER, BUT TODAY YOU DON'T KNOW, I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING FROM $7,000 AN ACRE TO UNDER $30,000 AN ACRE, WHO'S GOING TO ABSORB THAT COST THE BUYER.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE COST OF THE HOUSE? IT GOES UP.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EITHER FORTIES, FIFTIES, SIXTIES, WHAT'S THAT PRICE GOING TO BE? I MEAN, WHO QUALIFIES IN THAT ARENA? YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUILDING HOUSES CLOSE TO 300,000.
HOW MUCH IS THAT PERSON GONNA HAVE TO MAKE? WHAT JOB DO THEY HAVE? THAT'S WHAT I LOOK AT IS, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M GLAD WE GOT AN INVENTORY.
PLUS WE HAVE SOME NICE FORTIES AND 40 FIVES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FIFTIES THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE NICE HOMES.
UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I LOOK AT.
AND I JUST WANT YOU TO ALSO LOOK AT MY PERSPECTIVE IS, IS WHERE THAT COST COMES FROM AND WHO QUALIFIES FOR THAT COST.
IS IT GOING TO BE THE PLANT WORKER? IT'S GOING TO BE THE NEW NURSE? WE, THE NEW SCHOOL TEACHER, UH, CAN WE AFFORD A $350,000 HOME ON $50,000 A YEAR? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.
WHO KNOWS? AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY POSITION IS.
AND JUST, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, CAUSE I GET ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR STANCE? YES.
IS THE MARKET GOING TO GET SATURATED VERY WELL? COULD BE.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW THAT, LIKE I THINK MR. PELTIER SAID THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING ON KIND OF WHAT THE BUILDERS ARE GOING ON.
WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW WE'RE A NEW MARKET FOR PEOPLE.
WE'RE A NEW MARKET FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO ANGLETON.
UM, AND I THINK AFTER EVERY DISASTER, CAUSE THE VERY INTIMATE DISASTERS, LIKE, LIKE CHRIS SAID, WE COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.
PEOPLE LOVE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN ANGLETON.
WE ARE A FAMILY, REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE, WHAT WALK OF LIFE YOU COME FROM, WE TAKE CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND IF IT'S THE NEW PERSON COMING IN FROM THE NORTH, FROM THE WEST, FROM THE EAST, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF, WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE FAMILY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE THAT WHEN WE ADD 5,000 PEOPLE OR 10,000 PEOPLE, AND IT MAY TAKE 10 YEARS TO GET THERE.
BUT I THINK WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THAT.
WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL.
I THINK IF WE HAVE THE ONE WALMART THAT COULD BE BIGGER, THE ONE HEB THAT COULD BE BIGGER, UM, MR. GO SMALL TOWN, FEEL WHAT YOU START GETTING THOSE MULTIPLES.
YOU MAY NOT SEE YOUR NEIGHBORS OFTEN, BUT I THINK TODAY, EVEN IF YOU ADD 10,000 FOLKS, JUST LOOK IN THE CRYSTAL BALL, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL.
AND I HEAR THAT FROM A LOT OF FOLKS, WE DO CONCERT IN THE PARK.
I THINK IF WE ADDED 10,000 PEOPLE, WE'RE STILL GOING TO CONCERT IN THE PARK.
WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE ONE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAME.
UH, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE COUNTY PARADE ONE COUNTY PARADE.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW BECAUSE I GET IT.
I HEAR IT FROM TIME TO TIME, THE GOOD AND THE BAD OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THAT'S MY POSITION OF WHERE I STAND WHEN IT COMES TO, WHEN WE TALK TO THESE DEVELOPERS AND MR. JOHN YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS IN THE PAST THAT MAY HAVE STEERED THE COURSE A LITTLE BIT, MADE A LITTLE ROUGH, BUT IT WAS ALL NEW TO US.
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SIX SUBDIVISIONS BEFORE IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.UH, CHRIS, MR. PELTIER CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
SO WE'RE LEARNING AS WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GROWING, WE'RE STUMBLING AND WE'RE GONNA, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE COME TO THE TABLE TO LET US KNOW TO HELP US MAKE DECISIONS.
BECAUSE TRUST ME, WHEN YOU SIT IN THAT SEAT AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION, IT'S TOUGH.
IF YOU'VE WATCHED OUR MEETINGS, WE SIT UP THERE, WE STARE AT EACH OTHER.
WE LOOK AT EACH OTHER, HOW ARE WE GOING TO VOTE? AND IT'S TOUGH.
BUT THE GENTLEMEN THAT SIT UP THERE, I WILL STAND BY THEM EVERY WEEK.
EVERY MEETING WE'LL WALK AWAY FROM THAT TABLE.
WE MAY NOT AGREE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SHAKE HANDS.
AND THAT'S THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE BECAUSE WE ARE SIX INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO DECIDE THE FUTURE OF ANGLETON.
THERE'S 20,000 PEOPLE SITTING OUT THERE, 20,000 PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION FOR.
AND WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
OPEN-MINDED WITHOUT PREJUDICE AND FIGURE OUT, MAYBE WHAT'S RIGHT, BORN AND RAISED HERE, LIVED HERE MOST OF MY LIFE.
AND SOME OF YOU, THEY LIVED HERE TOO.
THERE'S NO PLACE TO LIVE HERE.
WHAT AM I, WHY AM I EVEN STILL HERE? WHAT MY POSITION IS, HOW DO I CHANGE THAT? HOW DO I MAKE IT? WHERE PEOPLE GO, I DO WANT TO LIVE THERE.
THERE IS SOMETHING, THERE, THERE IS A JOB THERE.
SO THAT'S MY PHILOSOPHY OF HOW I LOOK AT MY DECISION.
WHEN I SIT UP THERE, I'M ONLY HERE TILL MAY OF 20, 23.
I'LL BE GETTING TO SIT ON THE BACK ROW AND WATCH THE GUYS AND GALS UP THERE.
I WILL TELL YOU I'VE LOST SOME SLEEP.
UM, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, AND I HOPE THE OTHER GUYS HAVE DONE THE SAME THING.
THEY'VE TOSSED AND TURNED AT NIGHT, PROBABLY TAKING SOME EXTRA MYLANTA.
UM, AND I HOPE WE CAN ALL WALK AWAY TONIGHT.
WE CAN SIT OUTSIDE, WE CAN SHAKE HANDS.
WE CAN HUG BECAUSE IT IS TOUGH FOR US TO SIT UP THERE AND DECIDE WHAT WE THINK IS BEST IN THERE.
SIX DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS WILL SEE SIX DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
UH, JOEL MCKINNON, AND A MAYOR AND COUNCILMEN MEMBERS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW PAINFUL IT IS TO SIT UP THERE.
UM, USE THE ONLINE WATCHING, AND IT'S PAINFUL TO WATCH HOW LONG THEY GO.
UM, BUT, UM, I AM I'M PRO DEVELOPMENT.
UM, LOOK AS A PASTOR IN THIS COMMUNITY, UH, PEOPLE COME INTO THE CHURCH ON A REGULAR BASIS TO SEEKING HELP.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
WE'VE GOT TO FIND JOBS THAT CAN BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO COME HERE AND WORK IN.
UH, AND THE TRUTH IS THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO COMMUTE 30, 40.
THEY LOVE THIS COMMUNITY, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO COMMUTE 30, 45 MINUTES TO GO TO WORK.
THEY'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK LOCALLY.
AND SO ON THAT I I'M PRO DEVELOPMENT IF IT'S SMART DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT.
UM, WE DON'T WANT TO THROW SOMETHING INTO A VACANT BUILDING JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THROWING IT IN.
IF THERE'S NO SUSTAINABILITY, IF THERE'S NO MARKET FOR IT.
UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT, UH, HOW WELL WE STUDY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND HOW WE CAN MEET THEM IN THE SUSTAINABILITY.
YOU KNOW, I'LL LOOK AROUND THIS ROOM.
AND, UH, THE STRUGGLE FOR ME IS, WELL, LET ME BACK UP.
UM, DURING WHAT YOUTH, UH, YOU KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, EVERY TUESDAY I MEET WITH PASTORS FROM OTHER CHURCHES.
UH, WE SIT DOWN AND WE PRAY FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
THEN WE GO HAVE LUNCH TOGETHER.
AND THE TRUTH BE TOLD YOUTH ARE GRADUATING AND NOT COMING BACK.
THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL THERE'S A FUTURE FOR THEM HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UNLESS WE DEVELOP AND THAT'S THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO IF WE DON'T DEVELOP, WE MAY BE HAPPY THAT WE'RE A ONE WALMART, ONE HEB.
I KNOW PHIL EDWARDS HAS SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BE ONE HIGH SCHOOL FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO START THE DIE OFF, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND, UM, GET THE JOBS THEY WANT, UH, AND TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO IF OUR YOUTH ARE MOVING AWAY AND NOT WAITING TO COME BACK, UH, OR THEY TAKE A BREAK, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOVE BACK LATER.
UM, I JUST FELT LIKE WE HAD TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY SAY WE WANT IT IT'S WORTH US COMING BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, AND I THINK WHATEVER THE DECISIONS ARE THAT IS MADE FROM CITY COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CHURCH, THE OTHER CHURCHES, WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO ADMINISTER TO THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE CONCERNED.
I THINK SOME OF THESE HOMES ARE A LITTLE SMALLER, UH, OR IT'S MORE ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE, THE NUMBER THAT ARE SO SMALL.
UM, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND LIKE, UH, MAYOR SAID,
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IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE, YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE HOUSE.BUT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I'M ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR A HOUSE.
THE CHURCH GIVES ME A PLACE TO LIVE.
UM, SO THAT'S A BENEFIT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE WILL, IF I WAS WANTING TO RETIRE HERE, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BUY A BIGGER HOME.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, UH, I JUST, I, I WOULD BE CURIOUS, HOW CAN WE TALK TO YOUNGER PEOPLE THAN JUST WHO ARE JUST SITTING IN THIS ROOM? WELL, HOW DO WE FIND OUT WHAT IS IT YOU NEED TO WANT TO STAY HERE TO BUILD YOUR BUSINESS HERE, TO BUILD YOUR CAREER HERE SO THAT THE ANGLETON FUTURE IS BRIGHT AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE THE HEART OF BRAZORIA COUNTY.
WHEN YOU GUYS DO, UM, I THINK WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO THE, THE YOUNGER GROUP IS AWESOME AND FIND OUT WHAT IS IT? UM, I, UM, JASON AND I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS.
UM, I HAVE NEVER BEEN ANYBODY WHO FELT LIKE I HAD TO AGREE WITH EVERYBODY.
UM, I THINK THERE'S BEAUTY IN DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS AND TALKING THROUGH THEM.
UM, I DO THINK THAT ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO, THAT MIGHT GET OVERLOOKED IS IT, SOME OF US LIVE IN HOUSES AND HAVE LIVED IN HOUSES THAT MIGHT BE WILLING TO MOVE TO A LARGER HOUSE.
IF THERE WERE LARGER HOUSES BUILT AND THEN OUR HOUSES BECOME AVAILABLE.
SO YOU HAVE MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND OUR HOUSES MIGHT BE WAY MORE AFFORDABLE THAN SOME OF THESE NEWER TRACK HOUSES THAT ARE BUILT.
SO, UM, I JUST THROW THAT POSSIBLE DYNAMIC INTO THE CONVERSATION.
UM, BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT THERE PROBABLY ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE, WHO ARE COMMITTED TO THIS COMMUNITY WHO ARE COMMITTED TO, WHO ARE COMMITTED TO THIS TOWN WHO WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO MOVE, OR, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE WILLING TO MOVE INTO A LARGER HOUSE AND SELL THEIR HOUSE AND HAVE THAT HOUSE BE AVAILABLE WITH A HISTORY WITH, UH, AT THE, AT THE SAME OR LESSER PRICE, AND PROBABLY MUCH BETTER QUALITY THAN, UM, SOME OF THE TRACK HOUSES.
BUT, UM, SINCE I AM HERE AND HAVE A FACEBOOK UP, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN'T CAN I READ WHAT'S OFF OF FACEBOOK.
UM, CATHERINE WINANS SAID, UM, THAT SOMEONE WHO CAN'T AFFORD A CERTAIN AMOUNT ON A HOME ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO PUT MONEY BACK INTO OUR CITY.
SO COOKIE CUTTER HOMES, AREN'T GOING TO BENEFIT OUR CITY.
UM, SO I JUST THROW THAT COMMENT OUT.
SO, UM, IF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW I'M AN EDUCATOR, I TAUGHT HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, NOW IN DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION, UM, HAVING WORKED WITH TEENAGERS, HAVING BEEN ONE MYSELF, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, UM, I HAD THE SAME INCLINATION AND IN FACT, I DID LEAVE.
I LEFT AND I LIVED IN PARALLEL AND IN HOUSTON FOR EIGHT YEARS.
AND I COULDN'T WAIT TO GET BACK.
UM, AFTER LIVING THERE THINKING THAT'S WHAT I WANTED BECAUSE WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER, IT'S TRUE.
THERE'S NOT A LOT TO DO HERE FOR A TEENAGER.
AND SO I WAS ALWAYS DRIVING TO EUSTON TO GO DO SOMETHING, OR I WAS DRIVING TO LAKE JACKSON TO GO DO SOMETHING.
UM, I COULDN'T WAIT TO GET MY LICENSE, UM, JUST SO I CAN GO OUT AND GO HAVE SOME FUN AND GO TO DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT THEN THAT WORE OFF REAL QUICK, BECAUSE I THOUGHT IN MY EARLY TWENTIES THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THAT AREA.
SO I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE SO FAR.
AND SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I DID.
AND AFTER LIVING IN THAT ALL THE TIME, I WAS LIKE, NOPE, I WANT MY COUNTRY TOWN BACK.
AND I WILL GO THERE WHEN I WANT TO GO THERE, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO MY COUNTRY BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE THERE, THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE.
YOU HAVE ALL THE CONGESTION, YOU HAVE ALL THE NOISE, YOU CAN'T SEE ANY STARS AT NIGHT, ALL THE LIGHT POLLUTION THAT'S OUT THERE.
YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE A PEACEFUL NIGHT ON YOUR PATIO, BECAUSE ALL YOU HEAR IS ZOOMING CARS DOWN THE FREEWAY.
AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WAS EVER A FAN OF.
AND I FINALLY HAD ENOUGH AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, NO, I'M GOING TO COME BACK.
AND I, I AM SO HAPPY TO BE BACK HERE, UM, TO BE AWAY FROM ALL THAT.
AND I STILL DRIVE AN HOUR BACK AND FORTH EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR WORK.
UH, I'M WILLING TO DRIVE THAT HOUR.
I USED TO LIVE TWO MINUTES FROM MY OFFICE TWO MINUTES, AND I NOW DRIVE AN HOUR BACK AND FORTH TO WORK BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAN WHERE I WAS.
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AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, UM, IN REGARDS TO, UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU BRING ALL THESE PEOPLE IN AND THEY START HAVING KIDS, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THE SCHOOLS? THE ELEMENTARY IS GOING TO GET PACKED.THE MIDDLE SCHOOL OR INTERMEDIATE IS GOING TO GET PACKED.
EVENTUALLY THAT HIGH SCHOOL MIGHT HAVE TO, WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE, OR IF WE CAN ADD LAYERS ON TOP, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE WHERE'S THE LAND AT FOR THAT TYPE OF EXPANSION, BECAUSE A SCHOOL TAKES UP A LOT OF PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE SPORTS OUTSIDE.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THAT EXTRA LAND FOR THAT.
UH, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A BIGGER BUS BARN TO HAVE THE BUSES TO RUN THE DIFFERENT ROUTES.
SO I'M JUST REALLY CURIOUS IF, YOU KNOW, THAT THOUGHT HAS BEEN PUT INTO PLACE BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING UP ALL THE GREEN SPACES IN TOWN.
SO THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO GO WHERE I GUESS, OUT OF TOWN, CAN WE EVEN DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR LAND LOOKS LIKE, AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND IF ALL THAT POPULATION COMES IN.
JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, JOEL, I REALLY LIKE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE YOUTH.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE JOBS THERE, THEN WE'RE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME EXTREMELY SMART KIDS THAT WE'RE SENDING OFF TO, TO BE, TO BENEFIT OTHER COMMUNITIES INSTEAD OF BENEFIT, UM, OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT, BUT I'LL TELL YOU FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UH, WE HAD A MODULE HOME PARK THAT WANTED TO CONNECT TO THE CITY OFF OF TWO 20.
AND, UH, WE, WE DECIDED NOT TO AGREE WITH THEM AND CONNECT THEM TO CITY, WATER AND SEWER.
WE, WE, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
AND SO JUST AS YOU WATCH COMING DOWN TO 88, IT'S CALMING AND SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
UM, IT'S GOING TO BE IN THEIR DISTRICT AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GROW SCHOOLS AND OTHER PLACES TO, UM, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND SOMEDAY THEY MAY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER THEY HAVE ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL OR JUNIOR HIGH OR WHATEVER, BUT GROWS COMING WEATHER, WEATHER, AND IT'S GOING TO IMPACT US BECAUSE, UH, THOSE FOLKS UP IN BONNIE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO FOR WALMART FOR COMING TO ANGLETON? GO AHEAD, JOHN.
WE STILL GOT 20, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THREE MINUTES.
IT'S STILL FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVEN'T GOT TO SPEAK.
AND THIS MIGHT BE A RECORD IF WE CAN FIT A IN, UH, YOU'RE STILL A CITIZEN.
RIGHT? UH, MY, MY COMMENT REALLY I'VE BEEN BITING MY TONGUE THIS WHOLE TIME IS I TRY TO BE A HISTORIAN OF ANGLETON AND HOW IT, HOW IT'S BEEN, HOW, WHERE IT CAME FROM AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.
AND THE ONE THING I THINK OF SOMETIMES IS WHAT WAS IT LIKE YOU PROBABLY IN THE SEVENTIES, SIXTIES, AND I MEAN, MR. BROWN AND I, JASON, A LOT OF US THAT HAVE LIVED HERE, ALL OF OUR LIVES GONE TO SCHOOL.
AND A LOT OF CASES, THEY DO MOVE OFF BECAUSE THEY GO TO COLLEGE, THEY FIND OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE'S, THEIR PRIORITIES ARE DIFFERENT AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND I'M SURE THE PEOPLE IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES SAID THE SAME THING.
THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO, OR, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT ANGLETON AND WHERE WE'RE AT NOW AND WHERE WE WERE BACK THEN.
AND I'VE SAID THIS TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES, ANGLETON HAD A SKATING RINK, HAD A BOWLING ALLEY, HAD A MOVIE THEATER.
IT HAD A LOT OF THINGS GOING FOR IT.
IT HAD MULTIPLE GROCERY STORES.
WE HAD A MUCH SMALLER POPULATION AT THAT TIME WITH MORE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES THEN, AND OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE SLOWLY CHANGED.
AND I THINK THE REAL QUESTION THAT WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES IS, DO WE WANT TO BE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY TO HOUSTON LAKE JACKSON, THOSE AREAS, OR DO WE WANT TO BE OUR OWN INDEPENDENT CITY? AND I THINK OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE LOST OUR INDUSTRIAL BASE.
I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT ALL THE JOBS THAT HAVE LEFT THIS AREA INTO PASTOR MCKINNON'S POINT IS PEOPLE NEED OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYMENT.
IF THEY'RE GOING TO BUY THE HOMES THAT ARE BUILT.
AND TO ME, MY, MY BIGGEST THING IS I THINK WE NEED MORE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL IN THIS AREA.
AND NOT THAT WE HAVE TO SEND EVERYBODY TO DOW VASF TO GO WORK OR TO SWEENEY OR UP TO THE MED CENTER IN HOUSTON OR, OR, OR SURROUNDING AREAS, THERE'S JOBS THAT WE CAN HAVE HERE.
AND TO ME, THAT SHOULD BE THE, THAT TO ME SHOULD BE THE CITY'S PRIORITY.
AND THAT'S MY, MY REAL TAKE ON THIS IS I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL COMING IN.
I, I THINK WE NEED BIGGER LOTS BECAUSE THE MARKET IS BEING DICTATED BY THE BUILDERS WHO ARE BEING, ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM A BOTTOM LINE DOLLAR.
AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, THE DRAINAGE ISSUES, THE WATER, THE SEWER,
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ALL THAT BECOMES EASIER WHEN YOU HAVE LARGER LOTS, IN MY OPINION, UM, I'M SURE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WILL DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT I, I FEEL THAT THE LARGER, LOTS, LESS DENSITY, LESS TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, THINGS GET BETTER WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU ADD LARGER LOTS, I'M NOT SAYING I HAVE NOT APPROVED SOME OF THOSE SMALLER LOTS.I HAVE I'LL STAND HERE BEFORE YOU AND SAY I DID, BECAUSE AT THE TIME THERE WASN'T A NECESSITY FOR THAT.
THERE WERE, THERE WAS NOTHING HERE AT THAT TIME, BUT NOW WE'VE SEEN IT COME THROUGH.
AND NOW THEY'RE ALL TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING.
AND I THINK WE, AS A COUNCIL HAVE BEEN PRETTY GOOD ABOUT PUSHING BACK LATELY AND SAYING WE WERE DONE WITH THAT.
WE'RE WE WANT LARGER LOTS, BUT REALLY TO ME, THE FOCUS IS OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYMENT.
AND AS SOME OF YOU HAVE STATED, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO DO THINGS, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BAR SCENE OR A NIGHT SCENE, IT HAS TO BE WITH OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES WHERE SINGLES, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE NEED.
AND I THINK YOU ALSO CAN SEE THAT INSIDE OF WHAT THE CITY'S DONE IN THE PAST.
NOW, MIND YOU, THE CITY CANNOT GO AND JUST BUILD SOMETHING AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
THAT WE'D BE USING YOUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO DO THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER, BUT IT REALLY IS A MATTER OF FOCUSING ON THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZENS, LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS AND THEN ACTING UPON THOSE ITEMS. AND I THINK FOR US, YOU SEE MULLIGANS, YOU SEE THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.
UH, THE KB GROUP DURING THE BEAUTIFICATION THAT PEOPLE SAY THAT THE CITY LOOKS TRASH, NEEDS TO BE BEAUTIFIED.
AND I THINK HAVING YOU HERE KIND OF GIVES A VOICE TO WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO SPEND LIKE AN HOUR AND TELL YOU ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ON A MICRO LEVEL, BECAUSE I, I LIKE TO DO THAT, BUT, UH, JUST TO KEEP IT SHORT, I REALLY WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS HEARD YOU, THE STAFF HEARS YOU.
AND I JUST REALLY QUICK, HOW MANY OF YOU ARE OKAY WITH GROWING ANOTHER 10,000 PEOPLE THERE'S HANDS.
SO THAT JUST SHOWS YOU THAT WE ALL HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS.
AND WHEN WE SAY GROWTH, WE'RE NOT AGAINST GROWTH IN THE ASPECT OF ADDING PEOPLE HERE.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT AND RESPONSIBLE WAY THAT HELPS NOT IMPACT ALL THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE ALL THEIR LIVES.
AND ANGLETON'S DIFFERENT TO EVERYBODY.
AND IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN SAY ANGLETON'S IN MY HOME.
THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO.
I'M JUST GOING TO NUMBER OFF THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE, YOU'RE NOT BACKED UP INTO THAT NEXT AISLE.
I WILL TELL YOU FULL CREDIT TO THE MAYOR WHO HAS MET.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WITH HEB AND PLACES AND ASKED HIM TO PLEASE BUILD A NEW HEB AND WHAT DO THEY ALWAYS TELL YOU, MAYOR SO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN TRYING.
AND WE'RE TRYING, SO REALLY THE FOCUS IS LET'S LET'S FIX WHAT WE HAVE AND ADD THE PEOPLE ON, MAKE IT ASSIMILATED.
I COULD AFTERWARDS I'LL TELL YOU THIS IS WAY BEHIND HEB, BUT JOHN, TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN, GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO COME OFF OF FIXING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, FIXING OUR ROADS, FIXING OUR WATER, FIXING OUR WASTEWATER, FIXING OUR SOLAR LIGHTS, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US.
SO WE'RE NOT DRIVING DOWN DARK PINEY WAY ON A NARROW ROAD.
IT NEEDS TO HAVE CURB AND NEEDS TO HAVE SIDEWALK AND THESE HAVE SOME MORE LIGHTS SO THAT IT'S CLEAN PROFESSIONAL AND A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
SO I COME FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I WASN'T, I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE ON CITY COUNCIL OR MAYOR THAT WASN'T BORN AND RAISED IN CITY OF ANGLETON.
UM, SO I HAVEN'T, I, I SHARE AN ATTRACTION WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS I, YES, I HOLD EMPLOYMENT IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON, ALTHOUGH THAT COULD CHANGE AT ANY TIME, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO, UM, MY JOB STATUS IS ALWAYS, I GUESS, TECHNICALLY IN THE YEAR, UH, WITH THAT, WITH THAT SAID, UM, I DID LIVE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
I DID A SELF ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AND WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO LIVE IN A SMALLER COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, AND WE LOOKED AROUND AND WE SETTLED UPON ANGLE TO, BECAUSE IT, IT KIND OF PROVIDED A SMALL COMMUNITY, BUT A SMALL COMMUNITY WITH RESOURCES.
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AND THE REPUTATION OF GOOD SCHOOLS.AND OF COURSE THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT AS YOU'RE RAISING YOUR FAMILY.
SO WHAT, WHERE AM I GOING WITH THAT? OKAY.
MY POINT IS, IS, UM, I THINK I'VE, I'M PRO GROWTH.
10,000 PEOPLE IS A NUMBER I CAN LIVE WITH.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ORGANICALLY GROWN.
I'D LIKE TO SEE, I THINK THE WORD WAS SMART WAS USED OVER HERE.
I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE WORD SMART BEING USED.
UM, UH, SOMETIMES I THINK MAYBE PEOPLE PERCEIVE SOME OF MY VOTES THAT I'M AGAINST GROWTH AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY JUST THE OPPOSITE.
WHAT I THINK IS THE SMART WAY AND IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT FOUNDATION OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
UH, I THINK THE FOUNDATION IS HERE TO HAVE A GREAT CITY.
I DON'T SEE THE ATTRACTION OF SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE TO THE NORTH OF US, WHERE THERE IS NO CITY, BUT JUST A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
THAT'S NOT THE COMMUNITY I WANT TO LIVE IN BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW MY NEIGHBORS.
AND THAT'S, WHAT'S AWESOME ABOUT LIVING IN ANGLETON.
I GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, I SEE FRIENDS AND IT TAKES ME FOREVER TO GET OUT OF THE GROCERY STORE.
I GO TO THE FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHT FOOTBALL GAME.
I WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY WHERE YOU, THE CITY GOES TO FOOTBALL GAMES ON FRIDAY NIGHTS AND YOU SEE YOUR FRIENDS.
I WAS OUT THERE LAST FRIDAY NIGHT AT THE, AT THE CONCERT IN THE PARK, RAN INTO SO MANY GOOD PEOPLE.
THIS IS A GREAT CITY WITH LOTS OF GOOD PEOPLE.
AND ONE OF THE ATTRACTIONS WHEN I WAS WORKING IN ANGLETON, BUT COMMUTING FROM PARALLEL AND AS I WORKED WAS, I WOULD SEE FUNDRAISERS ALL THE TIME FOR PEOPLE, UH, NEIGHBORS, HELPING NEIGHBORS BASICALLY NEVER SAW THAT IN.
AT A CERTAIN POINT, YOU GET TO BE SO BIG THAT YOU'RE JUST NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF COMMUTERS.
AND NEVER SAW THAT IN PARALLEL.
THERE WASN'T THE POSTERS ON COME OUT TO THIS EVENT, HELP RAISE FOR THIS FISH FRY.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S THE HEART OF BRAZORIA COUNTY.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT NOT JUST OUR CENTRAL LOCATION, BUT SO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THESE DECISIONS THAT YOU ARE BRINGING UP, IT DOES TAKE MONEY.
NOW LET'S BE HONEST, THE SAME, SAME, SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT Y'ALL WANT GREAT IDEAS.
IT TAKES DEVELOPERS WANTING TO DEVELOP AN ANGLETON.
SOMETIMES THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS TO ATTRACT THOSE DEVELOPERS.
UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I'M A PERSON WHO'S GOING TO WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE WORKING VERY EFFICIENTLY.
AND I THINK THEY HAVE, I THINK, UM, I'M KIND OF GOING OFF TANGENT, THE STAFF YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE VERY BLESSED.
I TRULY BELIEVE CHRIS IS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB.
I TRULY BELIEVE HE'S ASSEMBLED AN ALL-STAR STAFF FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON, THE SIZE THAT WE ARE, AND PROBABLY THE PAY THAT WE PAY COMPARATIVE TO THE PAY.
THAT'S PROBABLY ATTRACTIVE TO OTHER CITIES WHO ARE IN OUR OWN VERY COUNTY.
UH, YOU KNOW, W HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF ASSEMBLING AND STAFF.
I THINK THE MAYOR LOVES THIS CITY.
SOMETIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS GREET, BUT HE IS A PERSON WHO'S PASSIONATE ABOUT THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
UM, I WILL SAY ALSO THAT, SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE THESE TOUGH DECISIONS.
IT'S IT? MONEY IS NOT JUST, WE'RE NOT AS ROLLING IN THE CASH.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A, A TRUE DEVELOPMENT, A BACKBONE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
SOMEBODY LIKE, OBVIOUSLY IN DALLES, DON'T JUST POP UP, BE EVERYWHERE.
BUT SOMETHING OF THAT AKIN, SOMETHING THAT, WHERE WE CONTROL A TAX BASE THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY DRAW DOWN OUR TAX RATE ON OUR CITIZENS BY BRINGING IN ALSO EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT THAT BOTTOM BENEFITS COULD THAT CAN COME THROUGH THAT THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT YOU GOTTA KEEP PLUGGING AWAY.
YOU JUST KEEP, KEEP GOING AND TRY TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.
A LOT OF THINGS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WE ARE, HE TALKS ABOUT ACTIVELY RECRUITING, ACTIVELY RECRUITING.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
REPRESENTATIVE OF HOPEFULLY YOUR INTEREST.
AND I AGREE THAT NOT, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO AGREE WITH EVERY DECISION THAT CITY COUNCIL MAKES.
UM, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE THINGS TOO.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, TO MY GOAL ON CITY COUNCIL IS, IS ULTIMATELY TO, TO TRY TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE HISTORY OF ABLETON AS WE GROW, GROW SMART, BUT I WANT THE STANDARDS TO BE RAISED.
BECAUSE I THINK, UM, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WITH THOSE STANDARDS AND THAT'S NOT JUST ON EVERYBODY ELSE.
THAT'S THE STANDARDS WITHIN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
THAT'S THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT'S THE CITY STAFF.
AND I THINK THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE.
I THINK A LOT OF STANDARDS HAVE BEEN MET.
SOME PROTOCOLS ARE IN PLACE AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME STUMBLING BLOCKS.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS MR. MAYOR, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND GO, OKAY.
DID WE REALLY BOTCH THAT? UM, BUT I THINK IS WHAT WE'VE STARTED TO SEE THOUGH, IS THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE AND IT'S COMING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S TRAVELING DOWN TO 88 HEADED SOUTH.
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OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT WHERE THERE IS THE SCHOOL THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE, THERE IS A S THERE IS BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.THERE ARE FOUNDATIONS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL SO FAR TO FIND, UM, WILL BE ATTRACTIVE AS THE TIME COMES IN.
UM, BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M ULTIMATELY SAYING IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CONTINUE TO RAISE OUR STANDARDS.
THESE OPPORTUNITIES WILL PRESENT THEMSELVES ON PRO GROWTH.
I JUST WANT US TO BE SMART ABOUT IT.
AND, AND, AND, UH, AND WE DO HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE FUNDAMENTALS AND, AND THAT'S WHAT CHRIS WAS JUST SAYING, BROUGHT FOR US, STEPPED UP HERE AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX THE WATER.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR DRAINAGE.
AND OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE WATER SEWAGE, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT JUST IS.
AND, AND OF COURSE, FLOODING IS A MAJOR PART OF THIS IS LIVING IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS, RIGHT.
WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT.
AND SO THAT IS ONE OF MY FOCUSES ON WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE LARGER LOT SIZE MAINTAINED, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT WHEN WITH THE COMPRESSION OF CON CONCRETE, OKAY.
IT DOES, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES.
AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY LIVING IN ANGLETON AT A DISADVANTAGE.
CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT ONE LOT ALREADY BEING BUILT UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
I DON'T WANT TO PUNISH THOSE WHO CAME HERE FIRST.
YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RESPECTING THE PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE.
AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF BALANCING THERE IN EVERY, IN EVERYTHING THAT IT'S BEING ADDRESSED.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT FIT, TRYING TO GROW, BUT TRYING TO DO SO IN A WAY THAT'S RESPECTFUL FOR THE PAST AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY HERE AND THE TAXPAYERS AND RESPECTING THEM AS WELL.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO SHOWS UP.
I QUITE HONESTLY WISH THERE WERE MORE YOU, I THINK THE MAYOR SAID THAT ALREADY.
UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S ONLINE OR THERE'S, THERE MAY BE 50 PEOPLE WATCHING RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE AREN'T AFRAID TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
NOBODY'S GOING TO SAY YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE THERE REALLY IS NOT A WRONG ANSWER.
THERE MAY BE SOME VOTES THAT WE DISAGREE WITH WHERE WE MIGHT VOTE AGAINST YOU, BUT I'M SURE EVERYBODY COULD, IF YOU ASK THEM THE WHY THEY CAN EXPLAIN THE WHY.
AND AS LONG AS ANYBODY CAN EXPLAIN THE WHY, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN ASK.
AS LONG AS IT'S DONE WITH, WITH, UM, IN MY OPINION, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE WHY, WHY YOU'RE VOTING THE WAY YOU'RE VOTING, THEN I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN YOUR DECISION, THEN, THEN YOU KNOW, THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT YOUR CHOICE, SO YOUR VOTE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE AND I WISH MORE PEOPLE WERE ONLINE.
UM, I HOPE THEY'LL WATCH TONIGHT AND, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THIS AGAIN.
AND IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CITY, CITY COUNCIL MEETING, CALM TO CITY COUNCIL.
I KNOW I'VE GOT KIDS, GOT OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
UM, LIFE IS BUSY, BUT THERE ALSO IS A PO WE OFFER RIGHT AT THE OPENING CITY COUNCIL TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL FOR ANY REASON.
AND IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE, OR DO YOU THINK IT'S A, IF IT'S A PERSONAL ISSUE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MY HOUSES, HE WAS BACKING UP FOR WHATEVER REASON, LET US KNOW.
AND LIKE, WE ARE VERY RESPONSIVE AND CHRIS IS REALLY GOOD AT IT.
AND KYLE IS FANTASTIC ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE ON PROJECTS.
AND SO, UM, SO FOR WHATEVER REASON, I MEAN, IT'S THIS, THIS IS YOUR CITY TOO.
SO SPEAK UP, COME SPEAK YOUR PIECE.
AND, UH, IF YOU KNOW OF A VOTE AND, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE ONES COMING UP AND YOU'RE AGAINST IT, OR YOUR FORTE COME TELL US WHY YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR FLORIDA, OREGON STATE AND GET THOSE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU.
THAT'S HOW IT, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
SO LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD ANYWAY.
UM, USUALLY SPEAK A WHOLE LOT HERE IN THE MEETINGS, BUT, UH, THREE MINUTES PLEASE.
I WAS ALSO BORN AND RAISED HERE IN ANGLETON.
UH, LIKE MR. BROWN MOVED AWAY, LIVED IN OFFICER FOR FIVE YEARS.
UH, EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.
I MOVED BACK WITH THE PLAN OF MOVING AWAY, UH, THAT DID HAPPEN.
UM, I COULD HAVE MOVED TO HOUSTON WHERE SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE, BUT I CHOSE TO STAY.
UM, AND THEN I GOT INVOLVED WITH PARKS BOARD.
I WAS ON THERE WITH CHRIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CIRCUMSTANCES ALLOWED ME TO BE PART OF CITY COUNCIL.
AND IT'S TAUGHT ME A LOT ABOUT HOW THE CITY RUNS AND WHAT ALL THE DECISIONS THAT GO ON, UH, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE SCENES AND WHAT IT TAKES TO KEEP A CITY RUNNING,
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UH, BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON WHY I REMEMBER BACK IN REALIZE WHY I LOVE THIS TOWN IS, YOU KNOW, GROWING UP MY MOTHER, SHE WORKED AT THE HOSPITAL AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I'VE KNOWN MAYOR FOR SO LONG.AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS TOWN IS, WAS ONE OF THOSE PLACES THAT YOU ALL, SOMEBODY ELSE'S PARENT ALWAYS KNEW WHO YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, SO IT WAS, IT WAS A LITTLE HARDER TO GET IN TROUBLE OR A LITTLE EASIER TO GET TROUBLE.
UM, AND THEY ALWAYS FOUND OUT.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT FEELING OF HOW TRAVIS HAD STATED, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE PEOPLE AT THE GROCERY STORE, YOU SEE 'EM, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN OR WHEREVER AND YOU SAY HI, AND YOU HAVE A SMALL CONVERSATION IS GREAT.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT ABOUT THE CITY.
UM, AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO CHANGE.
UH, AND WITH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING, IT IS COMING.
WHETHER WE ALLOW IT IN OUR CITY OR JUST ON THE OUTSKIRTS, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T ALLOW IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN OUTSIDE THE CITY, UH, AND I'D RATHER HAVE US HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER THAT.
UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW.
IT'S, IT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY GROW ORGANICALLY.
AND OVER THERE, I SEE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, WHICH I THINK IS SUSTAINABLE.
AND HOPEFULLY BUSINESSES CAN SEE THAT OR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WILL DECIDE TO OPEN UP ANOTHER SHOP, ANOTHER KIND OF SHOP OR ANOTHER KIND OF DINER, UM, THAT WE CAN UTILIZE.
UM, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH WHEN THEY FIND OUT, I WANT TO SAY THE COUNCIL, THEY WANT TO KNOW MY POLITICS.
I'M LIKE, IT'S NOT ABOUT POLITICS.
IT'S ABOUT GETTING THE JOB DONE, MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY RUNS, THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
BUT ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE IS HOW DO WE GROW? BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DIE OUT.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO LIVE, HAVE A GOOD WORK-LIFE RELATIONSHIP HERE.
UM, MY, I GREW UP, MY PARENTS WERE BOTH WORKING IN EASTON, UH, AND IT DRIVE DOWN THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE SOME KIND OF INDUSTRY HERE.
I KNOW WHENEVER WE SAY INDUSTRY OR INDUSTRIAL, WHAT COMES TO MIND IS DOW OR VASF STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN, WE CAN ATTRACT THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE KINDS OF PARTNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO, TO COME AND JOIN US AND HELP US HAVE A BETTER COMMUNITY.
BUT YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT OUR COUNCILMAN HAS SAID, UH, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH, UH, I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO ARGUE WITH JOHN JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT SOMETIMES, BUT, UH, UM, BUT, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.
UM, I POSTED THIS ON FACEBOOK THREE TIMES SINCE THE NOTICE CAME OUT.
UH, JUST SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE HAVING PEOPLE'S INPUT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO STUFF THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS DON'T WANT US TO DO.
UH, AND WHAT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING YOUR MIND.
SO IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK AND I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO MEET THE STANDARD HERE OR JOHN, I MISSED SOMETHING.
YOU WANT TO READ SOME MORE COMMENTS? CECIL BOOTHS, THE ROOF BEEN LIVING HERE.
MOST OF MY LIFE GRADUATED FROM MICHELSON HIGH SCHOOL A FEW YEARS AGO.
UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS THAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS I'VE BEEN HEARING FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS, MY KIDS, FOUR OF THEM, THE ED, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO IN TOWN.
WELL, GET INVOLVED IN THINGS, ENCOURAGE KIDS TO GET INVOLVED IN THE YOUTH GROUPS AT CHURCH, ENCOURAGE YOUR KIDS TO GO PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS, PARTICIPATE IN WHATEVER ACTIVITIES AROUND.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A CHARGE FOR, FOR US AS PARENTS TO, TO LOOK FOR THINGS, TO HELP THEM GET GET GOING.
AND, UH, SO, UH, WE, WE DO WANT TO SEE THINGS FOR THE CHILDREN TO, TO DO FOR THE KIDS TO DO AND
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TO STAY HERE.UH, I'M A BELIEVER IN THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM.
SO, UH, THE MARKET IS GOING TO FILTER, SET, AND OTHERS, THE MARKET IS GOING TO DRIVE WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY.
UH, THEY, THEY NEED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY WHAT THEY WANT TO BUY.
I DON'T WANT TO BE THE COMMUNITY THAT SAYS YOU WANT THIS A LOT.
I ONLY WANT TO BRING YOU IF YOU WANT THIS SIZE.
I WANT PEOPLE TO LIVE WITH WHAT THEY WANT TO LIVE.
IF THEY WANT TO LIVE IN A, IN A MULTIFAMILY OUTFIT, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, I WON'T HAVE A QUALITY PLACE LIKE THAT TO LIVE HERE TOO.
IF THEY WANT TO LIVE ON IN A STATE LAW, LIKE MR.
SO, UH, UH, THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM.
THE NUMBERS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN UP, THERE ARE TENTATIVE.
THEY'RE THERE ARE SEVERAL LOTS THAT HAD BEEN THEIR OWN UNDERGROUND.
THEY'RE FINALIZED WITH A LOT OF THOSE LOTS THAT ARE AIR CASTLES, AND WE'VE TAKEN THOSE NUMBERS AND ASSUMED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE.
SO EVERYBODY HAS WATER TO DRINK.
EVERYBODY HAS SEWER TO FLUSH THEIR COMMODES AND STUFF.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING OUT ANYTIME SOON WE HAVE TAKE, WE HAVE TO PLAN.
WE HAVE TO PLAN DILIGENTLY FOR THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING TO COUNT.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR ALL THAT TO PAN OUT.
YOU'VE WATCHED THE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT NOW, AND THOSE SUBDIVISIONS OF BIDDING IN THE WORKS FOR OVER A YEAR.
SOME NEARLY ILLEGAL ONE ON CLOSE TO THREE NOW.
IT'LL BE FASTER THAN WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, BUT, UH, UH, TELL US WHAT YOU WANT.
WE, THIS IS, WE'RE NOT SIX PEOPLE RUNNING A SHOW WHERE YOU'RE, WE'RE THE VOICE FOR YOU.
AND, UH, WITHOUT HEARING FROM PEOPLE, WE JUST HAVE TO USE OUR USE ALL HEART TO MAKE THE DECISIONS.
I NEED MORE THAN 20 PEOPLE AT A TOWN HALL MEETING FOR A TOWN OF 20,000.
SO CONTINUE TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS, TELL US WHAT BUY.
SO ARE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS? YES.
IT'S QUITE THE DEBATE ON IF WE'RE GOING TO READ THE COMMENTS ON HERE, WE TAKE A POLL.
UM, THE ONE BIG THING THAT I SAW IN HERE WAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS, UM, ON A WEEKEND WHERE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK.
UM, THEN ONE PERSON MS. WIDENS, I THINK PUT QUANTITY.
AND OSWALD SAYS, CITY NEEDS TO ENFORCE ORDINANCES THAT REQUIRES PEOPLE TO CLEAN UP THEIR HOUSES.
IT'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO IMPROVING THE IMAGE.
AND LET'S SEE, TRYING TO FIND SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES.
UM, ONE PERSON SAID THEY GO TO HEB LAKE JACKSON OR GO TO LAKE JACKSON, THE SHOP, AND BECAUSE THE STORES HAVE VERY LITTLE INVENTORY HERE.
AND SO THEY'D LIKE TO SEE INCREASE INVENTORY.
AND THEN, UH, UM, UH, ONE PERSON SAID, I AGREE.
THEY NEED TO KEEP THE CITY ORDINANCES ONLY FOR INSIDE THE CITY.
AND I THINK THEY'RE REFERRING TO THE DISCUSSION ON ETJ ENFORCEMENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO SAY THANKS TO THE CITY? UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFICULT TIMES IN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND, UH, IT'S AMAZING TO SEE WHAT THEY DO FOR THE CITY.
AND THEY'RE OUT IN THAT THOSE DANGEROUS COMMISSION, UH, CONDITIONS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THINGS LIKE THIS TOGETHER, UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GREAT JOB BY THE STAFF.
THAT'S, THAT'S A PRODUCT OF THE STAFF KIND OF BEING ABLE TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY AND THAT'S GREAT WAY TO DO
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IT.UH, SO, UH, WE'LL POST THIS PIER IN THE NEXT, UH, 24 HOURS.
UH, SO IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND WE'LL PROBABLY CHOP IT UP.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE READABLE.
UM, BUT FOR THOSE THAT, UH, GAVE COMMENTS ONLINE, THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT YOU INTENDED ATTENDED IN PERSON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GOOD NAME.