[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
[1. Minutes from Regular Called meeting on August 9, 2021.]
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MIC] ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TWO DISCUSSION OF PARKS AND RECREATION ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES.
[2. Discussion on Park and Recreation administrative updates.]
BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE KYLE LIVESEY, WHO'S OUR NEW PARKS AND RECREATION ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, SO WE IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET HIM, I LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO STICK AROUND AND SAY HELLO.HE HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO YOUR KB BOARD, WHICH HE IS NOW THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR.
SO WE JUST ARE WELCOMING HIM ABOARD AND HE HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB SO FAR.
WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE THEM. WONDERFUL WORK.
TEST US, I THINK SWAGIT SUPPOSED TO BE, IT DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'LL.
KYLE, I BELIEVE THAT YOU ITEM T TWO PARKS AND REC, DIVISION UP OUR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES. ALL RIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT JUST ARE OF NOTE THAT WE FELT LIKE WE WOULD UPDATE THE BOARD ON.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM.
THIS IS A GRANT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY APPLYING FOR.
IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION TOMORROW.
SO WE HOPE TO GET APPROVAL FOR THAT TO PURSUE FUNDING FOR THAT.
BUT THAT GRANT IS MEANT TO INCREASE OUTDOOR AND NATURE EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND THINGS TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND THINGS AS AN OUTREACH GRANT.
SO WE QUALIFY FOR IT BASED OFF THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER, AS WELL AS JUST THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE CITY.
SO OVERALL, HAVING A GENERALLY LOW INCOME PERCENTAGE, THAT'S HIGH ENOUGH FOR US TO PURSUE THIS. WE CAN THEN USE THOSE FUNDS TO INTRODUCE OUTDOOR RECREATION EDUCATION PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THROUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MEANS.
SO ONE OF THE WAYS IS TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT PROGRAMING OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS PADDLING, ANGLING, ARCHERY, CAMPING ACTIVITIES AND SUCH LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE THINGS WILL ALSO HOPEFULLY TAKE PLACE AS WE WORK TO COMPLETE LAKESIDE PARK AND HELP TO ADD ADDITIONAL FEATURES AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THAT PARK ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE
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AS WELL. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SAID, SEEKING APPROVAL TOMORROW TO PURSUE THAT AND THE APPLICATION DEADLINE IS NOVEMBER 1ST.I'M WORKING ON COMPLETING THAT AS WELL.
IS THERE ANY QUESTION SPECIFIC TO THAT GRANT APPLICATION OR PROGRAMS WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS GONNA BE THE KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL FALL SWEEP SINCE THIS IS THE COUNCIL MEETING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, THE BOARD MEETING AHEAD OF OUR NEXT EVENT, JUST TO KEEP YOU GUYS AWARE WE WILL HAVE OUR COMMUNITY CLEAN UP EVENT THE FALL ASLEEP NOVEMBER 13TH SATURDAY BE HELD AT ANGLETON JUNIOR HIGH, SO THAT'LL BE A LARGE DEBRIS REMOVAL, ELECTRONIC RECYCLING, PAPER SHREDDING, TIRE RECYCLING ITEMS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT ALL PLANNED OUT COMMUNICATION PLAN IS IN PLACE AND STARTING THIS WEEK, YOU'LL START TO SEE MORE ITEMS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THINGS THIS WEEK TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT AND ALSO JUST GENERAL EDUCATION ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RECYCLING ASPECTS THAT WILL CORRESPOND WITH THE EVENT.
AND WE'VE ALSO SECURED SOME SPONSORSHIP MONEY FOR THAT.
AS IT NOTES IN THE NOTES THERE WE HAVE THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS SECURE.
WE'VE ACTUALLY RECEIVED ANOTHER $500 FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SPONSORS, SO WE'RE GETTING GOOD SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY TO OFFSET OUR COSTS FOR THAT EVENT.
AND THEN LASTLY, OR ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO...ON THE FULL SUITE, DO YOU TAKE PAINT LIKE HOUSEHOLD PAINT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SO FOR LIKE A CHEMICAL OR THOSE TYPES OF DISPOSAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'LL REFER THOSE TO OTHER LOCATIONS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE PAINT DISPOSAL.
YEAH, IT'S MORE OF A GENERAL DEBRIS, ELECTRONIC RECYCLING, PAPER SHREDDING AND TIRE DISPOSAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND LASTLY, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE PICKED UP AND STARTED WORKING ON, AS WELL AS A SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THE CITY.
SO CURRENTLY THAT IS REALLY SERVED THROUGH OUR MASS GATHERING PERMITS, WHICH REALLY ONLY APPLIES TO GROUPS OF A THOUSAND PLUS.
BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING THROUGHOUT THE CITY OR LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS TO TAKE PLACE IN THE CITY.
BUT OUTSIDE OF MASS GATHERING PERMITS, WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL ORDINANCE OR A PROCESS FOR REVIEWING THOSE OR APPROVING THOSE.
SO STAFF ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE PROJECT TO IDENTIFY NEEDS TO WORK, TO DRAFT ORDINANCE WITH, TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR THAT AND THEN ALSO JUST STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND PRACTICES TO BE ABLE TO BETTER EVALUATE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE LOOKING TO USE ANGLETON AS THEIR DESTINATION OR LOOKING TO USE FACILITIES AND WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE. SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A MORE WELL-ROUNDED APPROACH TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT EITHER VENDORS, CITIZENS, WHOEVER IS WANTING TO HOST SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE AREA.
MORE CLEAR MEANS OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, WHAT'S REQUIRED AND WHAT THE PROCESS IS WITH THAT. SO THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND HOPEFULLY PLAN TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED NEAR SPRING.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU AND WELCOME ABOARD.
THANK YOU. JERRY, ARE YOU READY?
[3. Discussion on Recreation Division updates.]
NEXT, ITEM, THE DISCUSSIONS WITH RECREATION AND VISION UPDATES.OKAY, SO JUST GIVING Y'ALL SOME UPDATES ON THE RECREATIONAL FACILITY IN OUR DIVISION.
THE POOL SLIDE, WHICH WAS FINISHED UP ITS REPAIRS FOR BY LORAIN CONSTRUCTION IN EARLY AUGUST. TML WAS ABLE TO INSPECT A LITTLE TIME AFTER, SO WE'VE RECEIVED OUR CERTIFICATION STICKER AND THE POOL LARGE SLIDE IS FINALLY OPEN.
SO OUR POOL DOORS PROJECT NABCO COMPLETED THE EMERGENCY EXIT DOOR REPLACEMENT IN LATE AUGUST. WE ALSO REPLACED THE POOL ENTRANCE SLIDER DOOR IN LIKE AUGUST, AS WELL AS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR.
REC CENTER RENOVATIONS WITH CARES AND ABLC FUNDING.
STAFF ARE WORKING WITH AWARD HOMES ON RENOVATING THE LIFEGUARD OFFICE, THE POOL MANAGER OFFICE AND THE ROOM ONE KITCHEN, SO THE MANAGER OFFICE AND THE LIFEGUARD OFFICE HAVE BEEN COMPLETE. WE ARE WAITING ON CABINETS TO ARRIVE TO BEGIN THE RENOVATIONS IN THE ROOM ONE KITCHEN.
THE REC CENTER PLAZA, WHICH IS THAT LITTLE AREA OUTSIDE THE BASKETBALL GYM WITH ABLC FUNDING STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING TO RENOVATE THE COURTYARD.
RENOVATIONS ARE SET TO INCLUDE STRAND LIGHTING, PICNIC TABLES AND UMBRELLAS, CONCRETE GAMES, INCLUDING CORNHOLE AND PING PONG.
STAFF ALSO PLAN TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE WALL AROUND THE PLAZA AS A PARK'S WINTER PROJECT.
WE HAVE RECEIVED THOSE CONCRETE GAMES.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ON GETTING THOSE STRUCTURES PUT TOGETHER.
FOR HURRICANE NICHOLAS, ON THE 13TH OF SEPTEMBER, WE PREPARED THE REC CENTER FOR A POTENTIAL STORM IMPACTS BY BRINGING IN OUTSIDE ITEMS AND ASSESSING THE CONDITIONS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE, AND WE ALSO CLOSED EARLY.
THE STORM WAS THEN UPGRADED TO A HURRICANE AND HIT THE ANGLETON AREA ON SEPT.
14 OR THAT EVENING AND LEADING INTO THE 14TH.
THAT NEXT DAY, STAFF ASSESSED THE ALL PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
THE REC CENTER DIDN'T HAVE POWER AND WE SUFFERED FROM WATER DAMAGE IN VARIOUS AREAS, INCLUDING THE HALLWAY, WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOM, GYMNASIUM AND BOTH MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS. STAFF WORKED TO CLEAN ALL AREAS AND WE SOUGHT THE SERVICES OF BLACKMON MOORING TO ELIMINATE MOISTURE AND PREVENT FUTURE ISSUES.
ONCE POWER WAS RESTORED, WE OPENED AS A COOLING CENTER FROM THE 15TH THROUGH THE 19TH
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FROM NINE A.M. TO SIX P.M.AND WE SERVED AS AIR CONDITIONING, SHOWERS, CHARGING STATIONS, SNACKS AND WATER FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND WE HAD ABOUT SIXTY FIVE CITIZENS UTILIZE THOSE RESOURCES.
WE ALSO STAFF ALSO DELIVERED WATER AND SNACK BOXES TO 10 SENIOR CITIZENS AT MAGNOLIA ACRES IN ANGLETON, WHO SOUGHT HELP DUE TO HAVING NO POWER.
WE RETURN TO NORMAL OPERATIONS MONDAY, THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, THE 20TH, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR HR DIRECTOR ON INSURANCE CLAIMS. FOR HEART OF CHRISTMAS COMING UP, WE HAVE STARTED THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR THIS EVENT AND IT'S GOING TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 4TH FROM SIX TO NINE P.M..
WE ARE WORKING TO RELOCATE EVENT ATTRACTIONS DUE TO RECENT COUNTY CONSTRUCTION OF THE FORMER BAPTIST, OUR FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.
WE ARE CONSIDERATIONS ARE BEING MADE TO UTILIZE THE COUNTY PARKING LOT FOR RIDES AND THE BARBECUE COOK OFF.
AND THEN SO FOR EVENTS AND PROGRAMING'S WE ARE IN OUR FIRST QUARTER, WHICH IS OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
WE ARE BRINGING BACK THE FALL CAMP OUT MOVIE IN THE PARK AT FREEDOM PARK ON THE 30TH OF THIS MONTH. WE ARE HOLDING A KIDS PUMPKIN BREAK THAT WILL TAKE PLACE NEXT WEEK IN LIEU OF THE ANGLETON ISD FALL BREAK, WHICH WILL BE THE TWENTIETH THRU THE TWENTY SECOND.
IT'LL BE A THREE HALF DAY CAMP WITH FALL THEMED ACTIVITIES AND SWIMMING TO GIVE THE KIDS SOMETHING TO DO WHILE THEY'RE OUT.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE A HALLOWEEN THEMED LB WORKOUT, A STARS AND AUTUMN WINTER CAMP, AND MANY ATHLETES AND SENIOR ACTIVITIES ARE INCREASING THIS MONTH, INCLUDING LUNCH, CRAFTS, MOVIES, PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES.
WE ARE ALSO HAVING THE INAUGURAL MISS SILVER HEART PAGEANT ON NOVEMBER 13.
SO WHAT'S GOING ON? ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR POSTING ALL THIS ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE? BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ON THE PARKS HERE THIS YEAR THAN I USED TO GET. APPARENTLY, Y'ALL ARE DOING A LOT OF PROGRAMS. OH YEAH, WE ARE POSTING ALL OF THIS ON FACEBOOK.
SO AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR QUARTERLY PLAYBOOK THAT COMES OUT, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR WATER BILL INSERTS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH POSTING OUR PROGRAMING ON AND GETTING THE WORD OUT THAT WAY AS WELL.
I THINK IT'S GREAT GETTING STUFF OUT IN THE PARKS.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION ON PARKS DIVISION UPDATES.
[4. Discussion on Parks Division updates.]
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.I'LL GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN ON WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THE PARK'S LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
OTHER THAN OUR REGULAR DUTIES OF MOWING AND MAINTAINING THE AFTER THE STORM NICHOLAS STORM, WE HAD TO DEAL WITH SIX DOWNED TREES AND LARGE LIMBS THAT BATES STICKY PARK HAD NUMEROUS SMALL LIMBS OVER THE PARKS, I THINK.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN SOME PICTURES OF THE BEFORE AND AFTER THE ALL THE TREE LIMBS AND EVERYTHING DOWN IN THE PARK, BUT THE STAFF TOOK CARE OF THAT IN A TIMELY MANNER.
WE TOOK NUMEROUS TRAILER LOADS OF LIMBS AND LEAVES OUT TO WILKS PARK FOR DISPOSAL.
SOME OF THE SMALLER LIMBS WOOD WE SET OUT FOR CITIZENS TO COME BY AND PICK UP WHAT THEY WANT.
WE HAVE SOME STILL HAVE SOME LARGER TREE LIMBS OUT THERE THAT WERE KIND OF WAITING TILL EVERYTHING DRIES UP TO GET IN THERE AND PULL THEM OUT BEFORE WE SO WE DON'T DO ANY MORE DAMAGE TO THE PARK ITSELF.
SO THE DICKEY PARK PLAYGROUND IS COMING ALONG.
LAST WEEK THEY WERE OUT FIRST PART OF THE WEEK THEY WERE OUT PUMPING THE PIT OUT, GETTING THE WATER OUT OF IT TO GIVE IT TIME TO DRY OUT THE REST OF THE LAST WEEK.
AND THEY WERE OUT THERE THIS MORNING TO START WELL, THIS MORNING, DRAIN RAINSTORM KIND OF PUT THEM BEHIND. SO THEY WERE PUMPING OUT WATER TODAY, GOING TO LET IT DRY OUT TOMORROW AND GET BACK ON IT WEDNESDAY.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT WRAPPED UP.
IT'S KIND OF BEEN THE WEATHER'S BEEN GETTING IT, LET IT DRAG ON.
THE BASE PART V AND WE MAY EVEN GET AN UPDATE TODAY THAT THE THE CONTRACTOR HAS HAD A CHANGE IN THEIR SCHEDULE.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO START DEMOING EARLY AND THERE MAYBE THIS WEEK THEY'LL BE OUT PUTTING UP THE SAFETY FENCE AND ONCE THEY GET THE FENCE UP, WE'RE GOING TO START REMOVING THE ELECTRICAL AND THE BASKETBALL GOALS ONCE THEY GET THEIR FENCE UP.
THE OTHER STUFF AND POST THE SIGN OUT THERE.
YEAH, SO WE JUST RECENTLY HAD THAT UPDATE FROM CRAFTSMAN TODAY, AND SO WE HAVE SENT OVER
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ARTWORK TO ZIEGLER'S FOR PRICING AND PRODUCTION.WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO OUR FOUR BY FOUR SIGNS.
IF YOU'VE GONE THROUGH DICKIE PARK FOR THE PLAYGROUND THAT WAY, IT'S REALLY VISIBLE.
IT HAS A QR CODE THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST DRIVE BY AND SCAN.
IT'S SO LARGE SO THAT THEY CAN.
IT TAKES THAT QR CODE, TAKES THEM TO THE PARKS AND REC PROJECTS PAGE, WHERE THEY CAN SEE AN UPDATE ON ALL THE PROJECTS AND WHAT'S ASSOCIATED IN THE PARK LETS THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BOTH IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH FOR SOME OF OUR USERS.
WE'VE GOT OUR NEW DISC GOLF TEE SIGNS IN PRODUCTION RIGHT NOW.
HOPEFULLY, I'LL GET SOME UPDATES ON IT THIS WEEK AND MAYBE NEXT WEEK WE SHOULD BE GETTING THEM SHIPPED INTO US AND ONCE WE GET THEM IN, WE'LL TRY AND GET THEM UP BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE PLEASED WITH THE IMPROVEMENT ON THE SIGNS, ESPECIALLY THE VISITORS THAT COME OUT AND USE THE COURSE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER, REAL QUICK, WE DID.
THAT WAS A BOY SCOUT OR EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT, THE DISC GOLF SIGNS.
HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT WITHSTAND THE TEST OF TIME.
AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO PUT A MORE PERMANENT STRUCTURE IN PLACE, WHICH IS WHAT THESE SIGNS ARE. UH, B.G.
PECK SOCCER COMPLEX AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING THE CONCRETE PAVILION ETCHING TO REDUCE ANY SLIPS AND FALLS AND THE CONTRACT THAT WE WERE THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE WERE TALKING WITH KIND OF FELL THROUGH.
AND SO WE'RE GOING WITH OUR SECOND CHOICE, WHICH IS A MORE OF A BASKET TENNIS COURT TYPE COVERING ON THE ON THE CONCRETE.
I TALKED TO THE CONTRACTOR AND, YOU KNOW, ASK HIM QUESTIONS ABOUT DURABILITY.
AND HE WAS VERY, I GUESS HE DIDN'T HE DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUE THAT WE WOULD HAVE, ESPECIALLY BEING THAT IS COVERED.
AND HE THOUGHT IT WOULD HOLD UP VERY WELL.
AND PLUS IT'S HALF HALF THE COST OF WHAT THE ETCHING WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE BEEN.
SO HE THINKS IT WILL HOLD UP VERY WELL UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES BEING IT'S COVERED AND NOT GETTING A USE LIKE A TENNIS COURT WOULD SO.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEY PUT US IN ON THEIR SCHEDULE.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT TOWARD THE END OF NOVEMBER, GETTING IT COMPLETED ONCE THEY GET, YOU KNOW, BEING BEHIND ON DUE TO ALL THE WEATHER AND STUFF THEY'RE TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP.
HE TOLD ME THEY WERE WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL STAY ON SCHEDULE.
THE PLAYGROUND IS DUE TO BE REPLACED NEXT YEAR, EARLY NEXT YEAR.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET ORDERED THIS MONTH AND GET THEM ON OUR SCHEDULE TO GET OUT THERE AND GET THAT REPLACED.
FREEDOM PARK WE REPAIRED EIGHT PARKING LOT LIGHTS AND REPLACE 14 PLAYGROUND BOARDERS.
I CONTACTED THE SOLAR LIGHT COMPANY THAT WE THAT WE USE LAST YEAR FOR THE TRAIL.
ACTUALLY, I TURNED IN THE PO FOR IT TODAY AND SO THEY ONCE THEY GET THEIR DOWN PAYMENT, THEY'LL GET THOSE ORDERED.
ONCE WE GET THEM ORDERED, WE CAN GET THE TRAIL FINISHED.
REAL QUICK ON THAT BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, STUART, JUST FOR AN ADDITIONAL UPDATE REGARDING THE FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN WE HAVE BEEN BUDGETED OR ABLC DID BUDGET TO MOVE INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT THIS YEAR, AND SO THAT WILL BE GOING TO ABLC FOR CONSIDERATION NEXT MONDAY TO REVIEW THAT PROPOSAL BY BURDETT.
AND ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE WORKING WITH COSTELLO ENGINEERING AND BURDETT.
THEY'RE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY ON THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THE DETENTION CAPACITY TO ENSURE THAT IT FITS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT WE HAVE ALL AGREED TO, AS WELL AS TRYING TO MITIGATE THE REMOVAL OF TREES.
SO WE HAVE ASKED THAT HDR, WHO IS OUR CITY ENGINEER, GIVE US A QUOTE FOR TREE SURVEY SO THAT WE CAN BRING THAT TO COSTELLO ENGINEERING BEFORE THEY START MOVING FORWARD WITH EXCAVATION FOR THE POND.
WE'RE STILL WAITING ON OUR INFORMATION FROM HDR BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT IS IN REGARDS TO OUR TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, WHICH IS WITHIN THE LDC THAT'S STILL UNDER LEGAL REVIEW WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE CAN ENFORCE THESE DEVELOPERS DO TO DO BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE EXISTING AGREEMENTS THAT CITY COUNCIL AND COSTELLO OR EXCUSE ME, CONCOURSE HAS AGREED UPON.
AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT ALL WE CAN ASK FOR ALONG THOSE LINES.
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WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER UPDATE FOR YOU GUYS IN DECEMBER.MR. STEWART, JUST THE PARKING LOT REPAIR LIGHTS IN THE FREEDOM PARK WERE THOSE STORM DAMAGE OR JUST? NAH JUST BULBS, REPLACING BULBS.
YEAH. AND WE'VE GOT A FEW LIGHTS OUT ON THE ACTUAL BALL FIELD THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF. BUT THE BUCKET TRUCK THAT WE USE FROM PUBLIC WORKS IS CURRENTLY DOWN.
SO AS FAR AS LIKE THE SHADE STRUCTURES AND THE NETTING AND THE FREEDOM PARK OR ANY OTHER, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY STORM DAMAGE. ACTUALLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY STORM DAMAGE ON ANY OF THE FACILITY'S BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE THE TREES.
SO YEAH, AND SOME OF THE TREES WE HAD FALL, UPROOT.
I MEAN, THEY COULD HAVE VERY WELL EASILY TOOK OUT SOME FENCES, BUT I GUESS WE JUST SOMEBODY IS LIVING RIGHT? SO WE GOT LUCKY.
THE ONLY LAST THING I HAVE IS WELCH PARK UPDATE IS IF Y'ALL AWARE THAT WE'RE ALL THE STORM DEBRIS FROM THE CITY, WE'RE TAKING OUT THERE AND STOCKPILING IT FOR FUTURE MULCHING POSSIBILITIES. SO IF WE HAVE, THERE'S SOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DIDN'T GET PICKED UP OR GET PICKED UP, PUT OUT TOO LATE, CAN WE PERSONALLY BRING SOMETHING TO WELCH OR IS THAT HAVE TO BE THAT CONTRACTOR? YEAH AS FAR AS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ANY CITIZENS TO TAKE ANYTHING OUT THERE.
I THINK ONCE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR LAKESIDE PARK? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I REFER TO, MEGAN.
SO THE LAKESIDE PARK UPDATES, I DID SEND OUT SOME INFORMATION, WE'RE STILL WORKING.
WE DO HAVE A SCHEDULE WHICH IS ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET, SO IT IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.
AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
I HOPE WE CAN STAY THE COURSE THEY WILL OR HAVE BROKEN GROUND TODAY.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY PULLED PERMITS FOR THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM LAST WEEK AND SO THEY HAVE BEGUN WORK. WE RECEIVED THEIR CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE AND WE'RE SET TO GET GOING.
WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE THE GROUNDBREAKING HASN'T BEEN SCHEDULED, WE'RE WE'RE NOT DELAYING THEM. WE WANT THEM TO BEGIN.
SO WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS SOLIDIFYING A GROUND BREAKING DATE THAT WORKS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS SCHEDULE AS WELL IS SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED.
OF COURSE, PARKS BOARD, ABLC, SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTICIPANTS, LIKE DL MEACHAM, THE CONTRACTOR WE'VE AWARDED IT TO CLARK CONDON AND OF COURSE, TPW.
SO MANY OF THOSE FOLKS ARE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE AMPLE TIME TO INFORM THEM.
SO THAT IS OUR LATEST UPDATE ON LAKESIDE.
DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SINCE WE CAN'T SEE OUR PACKETS, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO REMEMBER OTHER THAN SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I'LL HAVE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY.
I'M SO SORRY AND I HAVE THAT PACKET UP HERE.
I KNOW YOU GUYS MAY HAVE MADE NOTES ON YOUR OWN.
BUT I'LL TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THAT AS WE MOVE ALONG THROUGH THE MEETING.
YEAH, I DO APPRECIATE THE SCHEDULE BEING PUT IN THERE, TOO.
[5. Discussion on an earthen hill to be included in the Freedom Park design.]
WELL, IF WE'RE READY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSSION ON EARTHEN HILL TO BE INCLUDED IN FREEDOM PARK DESIGN.YES. SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT CHRIS HAD CONTACTED ME ABOUT TO INCLUDE ON THIS PARK'S BOARD AGENDA.
AND SO ONE OF THEM IS THE DISCUSSION OF ADDING AN EARTHEN HILL AT THE AT FREEDOM PARK WHEN WE MOVE INTO FREEDOM, PARK DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY INCLUDE THAT IN THE PARK AMENITIES, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD DEFINITELY BE ADDED WHEN WE GET INTO DESIGN WORK FOR FREEDOM PARK.
SO WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT TO PARKS BOARD FOR DISCUSSION, AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE ABLC SOME MONTHS BACK.
BUT IT'S BASICALLY WHAT SHE'S DESCRIBING HERE, JUST A MOUND OF DIRT.
THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS ONE BEHIND THERE, THEIR FACILITY, BUT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIGGER IF YOU. WHEN I STRIP A PIECE OF PROPERTY GETTING READY FOR DEVELOPMENT, WE PUT UP ALL THE TOPSOIL AND IN THE GRASS WE HAVE HILLS, SOMETIMES 30 FEET TALL AND SCATTERED AND KIDS FROM EVERYWHERE FLOCK TO THAT.
YOU SEE TRAILS, YOU SEE THEM UP PLAYING KING OF THE HILL.
WHEN I HAVE SAND DELIVERED TO JOB SITES, KIDS, NEXT DAY, THERE'S FOOTPRINTS ON THE ALL SIZES, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING AS BIG AS SOME OF THESE PLACES WHERE SOME OF
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OUR OUTDOOR THEATER ARE SHAPED INTO A INITIAL PLAN WAS TO HAVE IT SHAPED INTO A SEMICIRCLE DESIGNED FOR AMPHITHEATER OUT IN FRONT OF IT.BUT THIS IS JUST SOMETHING A LOW COST, LOW MAINTENANCE FACILITY FOR PEOPLE.
WHETHER YOU'RE AN ADULT AND YOU WANT TO, INSTEAD OF RUNNING THE BLEACHERS, YOU COULD RUN UP AND DOWN THE HILL. I THINK THE FOOTBALL TEAM DOES ON THAT LEVEL ONE BACK THERE.
SOME PEOPLE, MAYBE IT'S PUNISHMENT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE A CHEAP, INEXPENSIVE ITEM TO PLAY SOMEWHERE IN THE PARK.
AND THEN JERRY DOES SOME PROGRAMS IN THE WINTER WHERE THERE IS A SNOW THAT IS GOING TO BE THE PLACE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE.
AND IF THERE'S NOT A SNOW, YOU CAN DO LIKE A FISTFUL OF LIGHTS AND LAKE JACKSON HERE WHERE THEY SPRAY, THEY HAVE ARTIFICIAL SNOW.
KIDS SLED. A LOT OF THEM GO JUST FOR THAT.
SO IT JUST SEEMED LIKE AN INEXPENSIVE OPPORTUNITY.
AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF EXCAVATION IN THE PARK.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT DEVELOPER WOULD BE HAPPY TO REDIRECT SOME OF THOSE WHEREVER WE PUT IT, WHETHER IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OR SOUTH SIDE, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE SOMETHING SIMPLE THAT IS NOT HIGH COST OR MAINTENANCE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL MENTION THAT I KNOW JOHN RIGHT AT TML JUST RECENTLY BROUGHT UP AGAIN IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE ADOPTED.
WE DO HAVE A LARGE WE HAVE BERMING THAT IS PROGRAMED FOR OR WAS IN THE MASTER PLAN IN THE NEW FIELD DEVELOPMENT.
SO ONCE WE GO, WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
WE WILL HAVE SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. SIMILARLY, IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS TO ME.
AS EXCAVATION IS GOING TO HAPPEN A LOT SOONER, WE CAN STORE THINGS OFF SITE UNTIL WE'RE READY FOR TO MOVE FORWARD INTO CONSTRUCTION FOR FREEDOM PARK DESIGN.
I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE OFF A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
SO EVEN IF WE DO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, YOU GUYS JUST WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH LAKESIDE AND WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING ON CONSTRUCTION.
SO JUST ENVISION THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THAT WILL LIKELY BE.
THEY WILL, I ANTICIPATE COSTELLO AND CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT BEGINNING EXCAVATION SOMETIME IN JANUARY IF THEY'RE NOT DELAYED.
SO THEY PLAN TO TAKE WHATEVER DIRT THEY WANT OUTSIDE OF THAT.
YES, I BELIEVE IN THE AGREEMENT.
IT DOES SAY THAT THEY WOULD SPREAD IT WITHIN FREEDOM PARK.
SO IF THAT MEANS WE JUST WANT TO HOLD ON TO IT AND KEEP A MOUND AND PROGRAM THAT INTO OUR CONSTRUCTION AT A LATER TIME, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
SO JUST UP TO YOU GUYS, BUT DO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE DO HAVE SOME BIRMINGHAM INCLUDED IN THE MASTER PLAN CURRENTLY AND THE FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. SO WHERE WERE YOU THINKING IT WOULD LIKELY GO? I KNOW THERE'S THAT BIG EMPTY SPOT THAT'S KIND OF BEING SAVED FOR WHATEVER COMES DOWN AS THE CITY KIND OF IF IT SUDDENLY GROWS AND WE NEED OTHER THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD.
YES. YEAH. WELL, THIS WAS SOMETHING WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT BEFORE THE NEW SECTION OF THE PARK AND EXCAVATION.
WAS DISCUSSED, AND WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS SOME YEARS AGO, CHARLENE ROGERS, NINE AND OTHERS, AND DR.
JACKSON, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A BIG EMPTY SPOT.
AND EVEN THOUGH THE NEW CONCEPT PLAN HAS THREE HUNDRED FOOT FIELD AND VARIOUS THINGS AFTER, THERE STILL ROOM IN A COUPLE OF PLACES FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
IF MEGAN HAS PLANS IN THE MASTER PLAN FOR BERMING, IT JUST DEPENDS.
NOT GOING TO ANY TYPE OF RECREATIONAL VALUE TO A KID VERSUS BEING ABLE TO CLIMB A 20 FOOT HILL. IT'S JUST NOT WHERE IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED MOST OF THE TIME.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S WHATEVER YOU GUYS.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS JUST DISCUSS IF YOU THINK IT'S WORTH TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR IF IT WOULD BE OR NOT.
I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING THE CONSULTANTS LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL AND JUST KIND OF SUGGEST AND SEE IF IT WORKS AND IF IT'S NOT PRACTICAL, THEN WE'VE NOT LOST ANYTHING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T. IT'S NOT IN THERE.
BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WORKED IN, THEN AND IT DOESN'T CAUSE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, I'M OKAY WITH IT.
SO I THINK WE COULD DO IT FOR JUST A FEW THOUSAND.
YOU KNOW, SO WHEN I WAS BEING FACETIOUS, BUT, YOU KNOW, HAS TO MAKE FROM.
SO WE THAT THE FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND THANK YOU TO CLARIFY THAT IS WHAT IS BUDGETED FOR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS AN AMENITY THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
NOT THAT THIS AMENITY WOULD BE 400000.
WE BUDGETED FOR ABLC TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN IN THE AMOUNT OF FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
OK. MM HMM. I THINK AS FAR AS DIRT, THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIRT BEHIND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN, THE DRAINAGE DISTRICTS AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, AND WE CAN
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HARNESS OTHER DIRT.THE DIRT BEHIND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE GETTING IT, MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE BEST PLACE TO GET IT FOR A PARK.
SOMETIMES WE CALL DIRT UP THERE FROM OTHER PLACES, IF IT'S RECENT DIRT, THAT'S DIFFERENT. OK, YEAH.
PROXIMITY DETERMINES THE COST. YOU HAVE IT ACROSS THE DITCH.
THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF QUANTITY THEY GET AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT COUNCIL MADE.
BUT BEYOND THAT, WE CAN GO AS DEEP AS WE WANT IT TO.
ANYTHING BEYOND THE 92 ACRE FEET IS OURS TO DO SO.
YOU HAVE IT THERE, IT'D BE IDEAL TO MOVE IT OUT SO THERE WOULD BE CHEAPER THAN THAT AS A REASON I'VE BROUGHT IT UP.
ANYTHING MORE, THE DISTANCE AND PROXIMITY FROM THE PIT WILL INCREASE THE COST.
ANYWAY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION OR YOU CAN PROVIDE BECAUSE THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM, WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON THE ITEM.
IF YOU ALL ARE ON BOARD WITH US BRINGING THIS UP WHEN WE MOVE INTO THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE AND IF IT HAS A STICKER PRICE THAT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT WE CONSIDER REMOVING OR IF IT IS REASONABLE, CONSIDER ADDING, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AND STAFF CAN USE THAT AS DIRECTION.
YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S GOOD.
YES. BILL, DID YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THE ITEM? NO. OK. [INAUDIBLE] DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? NO, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
OK. AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, I GOT TO.
UH. LOOKS LIKE MAYBE A FEW MINUTES OF MY BATTERIES WHEN WE RUN OUT ON THIS.
JUST GIVE ME A HEADS UP AND I'LL KEEP YOU GOING ON ON THIS ONE.
[6. Discussion on preliminary tree planting plan in collaboration with Trees for Houston.]
ALL RIGHT. SO ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSSION ON PRELIMINARY TREE PLANTING PLAN IN COLLABORATION WITH TREES OF HOUSTON.YES. SO AS MANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW, FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TREES FOR HOUSTON, FOR TREE DONATIONS FOR OUR ANNUAL TREE PLANTING, WHICH WE'VE DONE TWICE AT FREEDOM PARK, AND WE WILL BE MOVING TO B.G.
WE HAVE ALSO BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF TREES FROM TREES FOR HOUSTON AT THE OUR EARTH DAY OR NATIONAL ARBOR DAY IN APRIL.
AND SO WE TYPICALLY DO OUR TREE PLANTING THE TEXAS ARBOR DAY FIRST FRIDAY IN NOVEMBER, AND WE WILL DO THAT AGAIN.
SO THEY'RE KIND OF GOING TO CONTINUE BEING PARTNERS OF OURS FOR PARK TREE PLANTING AND AS WELL AS BASICALLY REFORESTATION IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL IN OUR TREE PLANTINGS ALONG RIGHT AWAY TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE REMOVAL OF TREES, IN ADDITION TO JUST REALLY HELPING REDUCE THE MOWING CYCLES THAT WE HAVE IF WE CAN DEVELOP AREAS WHERE THERE ARE MASS TREE PLANTING.
OUR HOPE IS THAT WE HAVE LIKE AN UP AND DOWN STRIP ON OUR RIGHT OF WAYS, AND THAT'S IT, RATHER THAN SPENDING A LENGTHY AMOUNT OF TIME MAINTAINING THOSE EXACTLY RIGHT AWAY ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.
AND SO WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS JUST WHAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED.
SO WE ARE TAKING TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES.
WE HAVE SUBMITTED A PROJECT FOR GREEN RIBBON PROJECT.
WE HAVE BEEN TOLD TENTATIVELY THAT OUR PROJECT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED.
THEY ARE TYING IT IN WITH SOME OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA.
TXDOT IS, AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH ETHAN BEASON ON THAT PROJECT AND MATERIAL INSTALLATION. WHAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ARE OUR LOOP 274 MEDIANS, PLANTING SOME ADDITIONAL VEGETATION.
SO WHILE WE HAVE GRASS UNDER OUR CREPE MYRTLES IN FOUR DIFFERENT SECTIONS, WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD SOME VEGETATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE NEARLY AS FREQUENTLY.
WE ARE PROBABLY OUT THERE, STEWART.
WOULDN'T YOU SAY IN OUR PEAK SEASON, EVERY WEEK, I KNOW I'VE SEEN THE GUYS OUT THERE EVERY WEEK WHEN THE GRASS GOES A LITTLE DORMANT, WE'RE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE LESS FREQUENTLY. BUT BECAUSE IT'S SO VISIBLE, THAT IS ONE OF OUR AREAS WHERE YOU CAN SEE US OUT THERE PRETTY ROUTINELY.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME AND JUST REALLY IN GENERAL SAFETY.
WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT OUR STAFF BY KEEPING THEM OFF OF HEAVY TRAFFIC ROADWAYS.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
SO IN ADDITION TO THOSE REFORESTED AREAS AROUND OUR RIGHT OF WAYS, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR PARKS.
THE SOONER WE CAN GET TREES PLANTED, THE SOONER THEY'RE GOING TO BE GROWING.
SO THEY ARE WILLING TO HELP US WITH THREE GALLON PLANTS THREE, FIVE, SEVEN AND 15.
AND THEN ALSO SEEDLINGS TO WHERE WE CAN JUST DO MASS PLANTED QUANTITIES IN VARIOUS AREAS.
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THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT TREES FOR HOUSTON IS DOING TO KIND OF TEST AND WATCH WHAT TREES ARE GROWING FASTER, WHAT IS WORKING BEST.THEY'RE DOING SOME TRIAL RUNS WITH THE CITY OF HOUSTON.
AND SO WE'VE TOLD THEM THAT WE'D LOVE TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM.
SO THEY HAVE AGREED TO PROVIDE US WITH REALLY AN ENDLESS SUPPLY.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT NOW IS WHAT IS THAT GOING TO COST FOR US TO INSTALL BECAUSE WE CAN GET THE MATERIAL FOR FREE? WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT INSTALLATION IS GOING TO COST US AND JUST WATERING WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
ONCE WE HAVE THAT NUMBER, CALCULATIONS KIND OF FIGURED OUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE OF A ACTUAL TREE PLANTING PLAN FOR YOU THAT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, A 10 YEAR PLAN OR A 20 YEAR PLAN OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
SO WE'RE REALLY AT THE PRELIMINARY STAGES OF THIS PLAN.
WE'RE JUST NOW COLLECTING THE INFORMATION, THE KIND OF MATERIAL THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DONATE TO US, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON CALCULATING WHAT WE CAN DO ON ANNUAL BASIS.
SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST EVEN THE STATE HIGHWAY 288 CORRIDOR, JUST DOWN THE MEDIAN.
IF WE CAN START IT TO 20 AND START DOING A CENTER SECTION, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A HALF MILE OR A QUARTER MILE EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS OR WHATEVER THAT IS, UNTIL WE GET UP THERE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE PLANTING AREAS, THE GREEN RIBBON PROJECT OR HOW WE'RE APPROACHING? YOUR COMMENT ABOUT PLANNING AND THE COST, DID WE USE A AUGER TO PLANT THE ONES IN FREEDOM PARK? WE DID, AND WE HAVE IT IN HOUSE, YES.
AND SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, STAFF TIME BECAUSE IT DOES.
I MEAN, THIS WOULD TAKE IF IF WE'RE NOT CONTRACTING IT OUT, IT TAKES QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO DO THESE PLANTINGS LIKE THE THE AUGURED PLANTING.
I MEAN, THAT'S A, I WOULD SAY, AT LEAST A ONE DAY, IF NOT A TWO DAY PROJECT FOR US.
AND USUALLY, WHILE WE ASK VOLUNTEERS TO COME OUT, IT'S USUALLY OUR STAFF THAT ARE PLANTING THOSE AND THAT'S JUST ONE HUNDRED TREES.
SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A THOUSAND TREES PER YEAR, WHATEVER IT IS, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE QUITE A BIT MORE WORK AND WE MAY EITHER CONTRACT THAT OUT OR FIGURE OUT THE BEST TIME TO TO REALLY SPECIFY.
ABSOLUTELY SO IT IS GOING TO COST US, TREES MAY BE FREE, BUT WE REALLY HAVE TO CALCULATE WHAT THAT PLAN IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN REALITY AS FAR AS SUPPLIES.
SO BASICALLY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS KIND OF THE CONCEPT, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO SOME OF THE NITTY GRITTY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD LIKE ON FIVE 23, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WERE LIKE THOUSANDS OF TREES AND I'M THINKING, OK, HALF OF THAT ROADWAY IS NOT EVEN BUILT.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT WASTING OUR TIME AND ENERGY SHARING WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE TORN UP BY THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
SURE. AND WE WOULD WORK WITH JUST LOCAL AND STATE PLANS ON EXPANSION SO THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD BE STARTING INTERNALLY WITH OUR PARKS AND THEN GROWING OUT AND WE CAN OVER TIME. YEAH, CERTAINLY DO THAT.
KAB DOES PLANTING THAT FOR THE HIGHWAY.
IS THAT WHERE THOSE ORIGINATE FROM? YES, I BELIEVE THAT WAS A GOVERNOR COMMUNITY ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME SCREENING.
YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS OUT OF THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER.
YOU DON'T SEE THAT FROM THE HIGHWAY OR AS YOU'RE DRIVING UP TOWARD THE SOCCER COMPLEX IN THIS KIND OF STREAM THERE.
YEAH, I LIKE HOW EVEN ON THE BELTWAY IN HOUSTON ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THEY HAVE BIG SCREENS WITH TREES AND AN ASSORTMENT OF TREE LOOKS..
RIGHT. ONE OF THOSE TREES, JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE, BALD CYPRESS, JUST BE CAREFUL.
THEY HAVE [INAUDIBLE] YES, YES, RIGHT? WE AGREE. THERE ARE SOME THAT WHILE THEY'RE ON THE LIST THAT THEY PROVIDED, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE UNDERSTORY TREES, WHICH COULD BE ALL IN WELL.
BUT DEPENDING ON THE KIND OF LOOK THAT WE'RE GOING FOR AND WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO SEE. I KNOW THEY HAD LIKE TURKS CAP LISTED THERE AND BEAUTY BERRY BOTH GORGEOUS, BUT MAYBE NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR A REFORESTATION PROJECT.
LAKE JACKSON AT 28 AND OYSTER CREEK DRIVE.
THEY HAVE THE MASS PLANTINGS OF THE TREES...
ON THE ELEVATED PART, THE BANKS AND THEN DOWN THERE.
BUT THE THAT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL TO HAVE IN A PARK WHERE YOU HAVE A FOREST IN A SMALL AREA WHERE YOU'RE WALKING.
ABSOLUTELY. KIDS COULD WALK UNDER THE TREES AND STUFF IF WHENEVER WE GET TO THAT POINT,
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WHEN WE REINFORCE SOME OF THESE PARKS, BE NICE TO HAVE AN AREA OR TWO OF JUST MASS PLANTINGS. YES, AGREED, AND WITH SOME OF THOSE MASS PLANTINGS, YES, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO LOSE SOME OF THOSE TREES.SO BUT JUST GETTING THEM ESTABLISHED AND AGAIN, THE SOONER WE GET THEM IN AND GROWING, WE CAN THEN DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO MANIPULATE PATHS OR DEVELOP SOME CERTAIN AREAS.
SO MY THOUGHT IS LET'S GET AS MANY AS WE CAN AND IS DENSELY PLANTED AS WE CAN, AND ESPECIALLY IF THAT MATERIAL IS FREE.
AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LABOR AND OTHER SUPPLIES WOULD NOT BE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THAT COMPONENT INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT REALLY TRYING TO DO IT AS DENSELY AS WE CAN SO THAT IT'S GROWING AND WE CAN KIND OF DEFINE WHAT OUR PARKS ARE LOOKING LIKE, THE INSIDE RIGHT OF WAYS, HELPING WITH MAINTENANCE AND SAFETY AND REMOVING IF WE HAVE TO LATER WHEN WE DECIDE TO DEVELOP AREAS IN A CERTAIN WAY OR IF THEY HAVE A SPECIAL USE.
THERE WAS A TIME THAT PRIOR TO YOUR ARRIVAL HERE THAT WE WERE GOING TO USE WELSH PARK FOR A TREE FARM. I THINK LAKE JACKSON DID THAT FOR A WHILE, BUT PLANT A BUNCH OF TREES AND THEN EITHER RENT OR GET A SMALL PICKUP DRAW ON TREE SPACE MECHANICAL ONE TO PICK THEM UP, MOVE THEM TO VARIOUS LOCATIONS AFTER THEY GOT TO A CERTAIN SIZE.
BUT LIKE EVERYTHING WELSH PARK IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN.
BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN ONE OF OUR OPTIONS FOR THERE, BUT YOU CAN GET IF YOU HAVE A PLACE, WHAT YOU DO TO GET THESE TREES GROWN, BUT IT MAY JUST SINCE YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR FREE TREES.
RIGHT, AND ACTUALLY, WE TALKED TO BARRY WARD, THE FOUNDER OF TREES FOR HOUSTON.
THEY WORKED IN CONTRACT WITH CITY OF LAPORTE.
I KNOW THEY'VE DONE IT WITH. MAYBE LAKE JACKSON WAS ANOTHER ONE OF THEM, BUT THEY WILL CONTRACT WITH MUNICIPALITIES TO HAVE A TREE STORAGE AREA.
BUT IT REALLY PUTS PRESSURE ON THE MUNICIPALITY TO HELP MAINTAIN IRRIGATION AND WATERING, MAKING SURE PEOPLE DON'T GO IN THERE AND STEAL THE TREES.
WE DID DISCUSS THAT AS A POTENTIAL OPTION, AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I WILL GIVE YOU ANY NUMBER OF TREES YOU WOULD LIKE, SO TELL ME WHY YOU'D WANT THE TREE FARM THEN.
AND SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE, WELL, OK, IF WE CAN GET JUST LIKE YOU SAID, FOR FREE AND WE'VE GOT A RESOURCE, THEN MAYBE THAT'S OUR BEST.
BRING THEM WHEN YOU'RE READY TO PLANT.
RIGHT, YEAH. WE TALK ABOUT TREES IN HOUSTON A LOT.
WHAT IS THERE MISSION? WHO IS AT [INAUDIBLE] SO THEY ARE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT IS BASED OUT OF HOUSTON.
THEY, WHILE THEY WILL GO BEYOND THE HOUSTON AREA, THEY'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON TREE PLANTING AND PLANTING AS MANY TREES IN HOUSTON AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S NOT A WHAT NOW. NO, NO, NO, I SAY THAT, BUT THEY DO HAVE ON THEIR WEBSITE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE A TREE FOR THEM FROM THEM, THEY WOULD.
BUT IT IS A NONPROFIT. IT WOULD BE GOING TO PERPETUATE THIS BACK INTO THEIR FUNDING RESOURCES. ALL RIGHT.
SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OK? ITEM NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSSION ON PROJECTS FOR FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT AND ASSOCIATED
[7. Discussion on projects for future park development and associated funding through Angleton Better Living Corporation bond capacity.]
FUNDING THROUGH THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION BOND CAPACITY.YEAH. SO THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT CHRIS AND I TALKED ABOUT PUTTING ON THE AGENDA.
HE HAD REQUESTED THAT WE JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME TO FRUITION.
AND WHAT I WOULD NEED AND STAFF WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS ABOUT IS THE PRIORITY IN WHICH THAT IS DONE. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS PROVIDED YOU AN ATTACHMENT OF OUR CIP PLAN OR DRAFTED CIP PLAN.
I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE AREAS THAT OUR PARKS AND REC ITEMS AND THE WAY THAT THESE ARE STRUCTURED AND THE CIP PLAN IS BASED OFF OF OUR MASTER IN STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND SO STAFF HAS PRIORITIZED THESE ITEMS FOR YOU, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT PARKS BOARD OR ABLC WANTS.
SO IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD FOR TO GO OUT FOR OUR NEXT BOND WITH ABLC.
I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS FOR SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE COVERED IN ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE THAT TOUCH ON THE SAME STUFF.
OK. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR PROBABLY TWO DECADES IS KIND OF KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON SOUTH SIDE PARK, AND I KNOW WE HAVE NOTHING ACROSS THE TRACKS, BUT I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ON ONE OF THE NEXT ITEMS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WHERE THAT COMES INTO PLAY IN OUR DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, BUT FOR ME, THAT'S SOMETHING AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.
ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT GREAT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THAT ITEM, TO DISCUSS THAT PARTICULAR THING RATHER THAN DISCUSS IT AT THIS POINT.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS THAT NOW JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER EVERYTHING THAT YOU
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WOULD LIKE TO IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T ON THE NEXT ONE.BUT MY ISSUE ON THAT, AND I THINK WE TOUCHED THAT.
AND IF YOU WANT TO NOW JUST DISCUSS PRIORITIES, WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT LATER.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A TIME ON THAT.
SO WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CIP PLAN AND THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE FIRST ONE ON THE CIP IS THE MUNICIPAL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE MUNICIPAL POOL.
AND AGAIN, LIKE CHRIS MENTIONED, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE LATER.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT SITE SPECIFICALLY, LIKE WE TALKED TO THE LAST PARKS BOARD MEETING. IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST SITE, SO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THOSE AND WE WILL DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT.
BUT WE HAVE SAID THIS IS A PRIORITY.
THIS IS OUR FIRST PRIORITY OUTLINED IN THE CIP.
AGAIN, MAY NOT BE AT THE MUNICIPAL POOL, BUT IT IS A PARK THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THROUGH DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO STAFF ALSO SEES THAT AS A PRIORITY AND HAS NOTED SO IN THE CIP.
I THINK LAST TIME WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE CONSTRAINTS OF THAT SITE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN THE PACKET ABOUT PURCHASING IT, BUT THAT'S IN THE NEXT MONTH.
CHRIS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? DID YOU WANT TO? SO I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS TO STAFF, AND I THINK WE NEED TO JUST KIND OF THINK ABOUT THIS DIFFERENTLY.
AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE MUNICIPAL POOL OLD MUNICIPAL POOL SITE MAY NOT BE A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE A PARK OR SOMETHING BECAUSE APPROXIMATELY 288 B ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IF I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IN THE LATER ITEM? BUT WHAT IF WE TOOK WHERE THE OLD COPPER STORAGE BUILDING WAS THE THE BARNS AND THE CURRENT ANIMAL CONTROL IS AND MOVE THE ANIMAL CONTROL TO WHERE THE OLD MUNICIPAL POOL IS? AND THAT PUTS THAT BUILDING ON A BETTER VISIBILITY FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THAT WE HAVE IT.
YOU TAKE IT OFF THE CURRENT SITE.
NOW YOU CAN DEVELOP THAT WHOLE SITE FOR A PARK AND YOU MOVE THE DOG PARK AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND SO OUR ATTEMPT IS TO THROW OUT THESE OPTIONS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO WITH THESE THINGS? AND WE'LL MAKE DECISIONS AND INFLUENCE THE COUNCIL? BUT I THINK THINGS LIKE VETERANS PARK, WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH IT.
IT'S GOING TO STAY VETERANS PARK.
HOW DO WE REDESIGN IT? HOW DO WE MOVE THAT FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT? YEAH. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT IS THE SECOND ITEM ON THE CIP, FOLLOWED BY FREEDOM PARK MASTER OR PLAN AND CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO WHEN WE GET TO ABLC OR YOU ALL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION AS A PARKS BOARD ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE BE THE PRIORITY.
THOSE ARE SOME THINGS TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION.
THIS IS HOW STAFF HAS PRIORITIZED THOSE ITEMS. AND SO WHILE WE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED THE FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN, WE REALLY NEED TO BE ASSESSING AS A BOARD IS THAT OUR PRIORITY RIGHT NOW? IS THAT THE PRIORITY TO MOVE FORWARD OR DO WE HAVE SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR ABLC TO CONSIDER? OK.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE MILLION FOR THE BOND FREEDOM VETERANS, BUT THE PRICE TAG IS THREE MILLION IS WHAT YOU WANT TO GO OUT FOR ON THE BOND.
SO YOU WILL KNOW, YES, ON YOUR.
NOT THAT IT'S NECESSARILY WHAT WE WANT TO GO OUT FOR.
SO DEPENDING ON WHEN WE GO OUT FOR BOND, EXACTLY, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE TIMING AND SUCH. BUT I GUESS WHAT, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF THAT IS APPROXIMATELY THREE MILLION. YES, WHICH IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU START PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER.
SO JUST MAKING THAT NOTE, BUT I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT CHRIS JUST SAID, BECAUSE READING THROUGH THE PUBLIC SURVEY, NOBODY, I THINK I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT SAID THAT'S NOT THE PLACE TO PUT THE PARK.
IT SEEMED LIKE THE MAJORITY WANTED IT THERE.
I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF MEMORIES THERE FROM THE OLD POOL.
IT WAS BASICALLY AT HIS LAST LEG WHEN I CAME HERE, BUT I REMEMBER THAT WAS A FUN PLACE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. HOWEVER, JUST LOOKING AT THAT, ONE OF MY THOUGHTS WAS TO MOVE THE ANIMAL CONTROL OVER THERE. BUT THE OTHER THOUGHT WAS THAT IS A PERFECT LOCATION FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND SELL IT AND MAKE SOME MONEY TO APPLY TO PARK ELSEWHERE, LIKE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.
WE COULD UTILIZE THE DOG PARK AREA AS HE SUGGESTED, WHICH IS, I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA.
BUT I'M I'M ALL FOR MAKING SOME MONEY OFF OF IT.
IF THAT HELPS FUND SOMETHING ELSE IN A SLIGHTLY BETTER LOCATION, LESS EXPENSIVE LOCATION . AND SALE THAT COULD FUND THE PURCHASE OF OTHER LAND, FOR EXAMPLE, OR MORE PARKLAND OR WHATEVER SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT'S PROBABLY EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO, WHICH I THINK IS BECAUSE I WAS THINKING OF
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DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.BUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG BEFORE YOU RUN OUT OF REALLY GOOD STREET ACCESS.
THAT'S OK. I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT WORD.
SO WE'RE LOOKING MORE FOR DIRECTION ON PRIORITIZING THE PLACEMENT OF THIS VERSUS THE FUNDING OF IT. SO WE WILL ACTUALLY GET TO AN ITEM THAT TALKS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT A PARK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN AND FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE BETTER DIRECTION AND EVEN POTENTIAL ACTION ON THAT.
THIS IS REALLY TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN LAID OUT IN THE CIP PLAN OR IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT PRIORITIZATION NEEDS TO BE LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THE VERY LAST THING YOU HAVE ON HERE THE REC CENTER EXPANSION.
THERE IS SOME BENEFIT TO DOING SOMETHING NEW IN A REC CENTER, IT'S BEEN THERE 17, 18, HOW EVER LONG IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AND IT'S IT'S DOING UPDATE, BUT I THINK CHARLOTTE AND I AND I THINK JERRY WAS IN ON THAT CONVERSATION.
IF WE ADD SOME NEW AMENITIES THERE JUST TO FRESHEN IT UP, BRING IT UP TO DATE, BOTH INSIDE AND OUT.
I SAY WE, ABLC WHO FUNDS THE OPERATIONS OR WHATEVER WE DO ON THAT FACILITY WOULD GET SOME PAYBACK FROM INCREASED MEMBERSHIPS OR FROM SOMETHING THAT WE DO THAT WOULD ATTRACT MORE MEMBERS BECAUSE THAT PARK IS PROBABLY THE REC CENTER IS PROBABLY THE MOST CENTER OF ANY PARK WE HAVE AS A CITY AND AS FAR AS LOCATION WISE.
BUT I SEE US DOWN AT THE END, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A REASON WE DON'T.
YES. AND SO THAT THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF THE MASTER IN STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND SO WHEN WE DID, THE MASTER IN STRATEGIC PLAN ADOPTED, I THINK IT WAS DECEMBER 2019.
THE RENOVATIONS TO THE RECREATION CENTER WAS OUR WAS LONG TERM EIGHT TO 10 YEARS OUT.
SO ALL OF THESE OTHER PARKS WERE ITEMS THAT GREEN PLAY ASSESSED AND SAID, YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THESE LOW LIKE LOW HANGING FRUIT, LOW SCORING PARKS BEFORE YOU BEGIN ADDRESSING AND EXPANDING THE RECREATION CENTER, AND IT WAS SPECIFIC TO EXPANSION.
AND SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS LIKE WHAT BELK HAS ALREADY JUST RECENTLY THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR APPROVED THE EXPENDITURE, I THINK IT WAS AROUND FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS TO IMPROVE THE PLAZA TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES, MAKE THAT ANOTHER RENTABLE AREA. THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I THINK WE HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM AND LEVERAGE TO DO.
WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT A TRAIL AROUND THE SYSTEM JUST MAKING SOME SMALL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE DOING WITH A BELK CONTINGENCY.
BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BONDING AND FUTURE EXPANSION, THAT'S GOING TO BE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER LOW SCORING FRUIT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO TO EXPANSION OF LARGER FACILITIES.
WELL, ONE THING THAT TIMING COULD PLAY IN IS YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT ACQUIRING THAT SMALL PIECE OF LAND TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE A TRAIL AROUND THE DETENTION, RIGHT? IF WE WAIT FOR A 10 OR 20 YEARS, WHATEVER THIS TIMEFRAME IS ON HERE, WE MAY MISS OUT ON THAT. SURE. IF SOMEBODY COMES ALONG AND THAT WHOLE STRIP, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S MOST LIKELY TO BE EXCESS LAND, WHOEVER ACQUIRES THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO GET TO FROM CANON. BUT WHAT IS OUR ABILITY TO GET, WHETHER IT'S CARES FUNDING OR ANY OTHER FEDERAL FUNDING, IF WE HAVE THAT DESIGNATED AS A EMERGENCY CENTER WHERE WE DO WHAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOING WHEN THERE'S A FREEZE OR A HURRICANE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, HAVE YOU SET UP THERE FOR SERVING THE COMMUNITY? IS THERE ANY OTHER FUNDS THAT WOULD MAKE THAT PLACE MORE USABLE FOR THOSE KIND OF EVENTS THAT WE COULD NOT JUST BOND TO THE ABLC OR TO THE CITY, BUT GET SOME FEDERAL FUNDING THAT YOU COULD KIND OF I MEAN, IT'S DONE ALL THE TIME.
YOU TAKE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT ARE INTENDED FOR SOMETHING AND USE THEM FOR SOMETHING THAT'S WITHIN THAT RANGE. BUT IS THERE ANY MONEY AVAILABLE TO DO THERE? I THINK THERE IS POTENTIAL IF WE DESIGNATE IT AS AN EMERGENCY.
I WOULDN'T SAY OPERATION CENTER, BUT MAYBE A DISASTER CENTER, RIGHT AND RECOVERY TYPE OF CENTER LIKE WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOING WITH COMFORT STATIONS BOTH IN THE WINTER STORM AND THEN THE MOST RECENT HURRICANE WITH A COOLING CENTER.
AND SO THERE MAY BE SOME POTENTIAL.
WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, THOUGH, WITH SOME OF THESE FEDERAL GRANTS JUST RECENTLY, THE ARPA IS THAT THEY'RE THEY MAY THEY MAY HAVE BE VERY VAGUE COMES OUT, BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET ALL THE INFORMATION, IT'S VERY DETAILED ON WHAT YOU CAN SPEND THE MONEY ON.
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AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR EARS PERKED UP.AND NOW THAT WE HAVE PATTY SWORDS ON STAFF AS A GRANT ADMINISTRATOR AND PROJECT MANAGER, SHE'S HELPING TO IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS.
AND WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY, COLLABORATIVELY AS A LEADERSHIP TEAM TO KIND OF MENTION ALL OF THESE ITEMS AND WHAT'S PERTINENT IN EACH OF OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO TACKLE. THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE CIP PLAN IS THAT WE CAN SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT A PROJECT THAT FITS FOR THAT.
BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHEN THE GRANTS COME OUT AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
SOME OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING WHERE IT GOES, IT SEEMS QUESTIONABLE.
BUT WHY NOT THE SO THE OUTDOOR AROUND THE REC CENTER? AS YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT A SPLASH PAD AT SOUTH SIDE OR SPLASH PAD AT FREEDOM PARK IN THE NEW PLAN.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER ON THE AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE REC CENTER? DO YOU THINK IT'D BE AN IDEAL PLACE? WHAT IS? I WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER IT.
I WOULD OPEN THAT UP TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED BECAUSE LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED AND IT IS VERY WALKABLE FOR A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.
AND DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT IT IS IN THE CONFINES OF THE REC CENTER OR OUTSIDE OF THE REC CENTER FOR ACCESSIBILITY, I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD BE SERVING A POPULATION THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GO TO THE REC CENTER EVERY DAY IN THE SUMMER TO USE THE INDOOR FACILITIES.
IT MAY DEPEND ON USE WE MAY CONSIDER TO KEEP IT INSIDE THE FACILITY TO INCREASE REVENUE AND ATTENDANCE.
YOU COULD ALSO EXPAND OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING AUDITORIUM FLOORPLAN PLAN AND MAKE THAT A BIGGER AND BETTER NATURAL GAME, IF YOU WILL.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY IS JUST GETTING PRICING TO UPDATE THE ACTUAL FEATURES INSIDE OF AN AUDITORIUM TO EVEN MAKE THAT A LITTLE A LITTLE UPGRADE WITHOUT A HUGE EXPENSE.
SO I THINK, CHRIS, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SHARE.
SO THE WE DID SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS THROUGH THE CARES AND WE DID THE SLIDING DOORS AND WE'RE DOING THE OTHER SLIDING DOORS THROUGH THAT TOO, RIGHT? I THINK WE DID THE FIRST SET OF SLIDING DOORS AND WE DID THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING. SO WE'VE HAD SOME INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL.
WE DID THAT UNDER BECAUSE KARA SAID, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE SAY WITH OUR BATHROOMS, BE LIKE BUCKEE'S. SO IT'S HANDS FREE, IT'S TOUCHLESS.
AND SO WE SPENT THE MONEY ON THAT.
AND THEN THE ARP FUNDING, THE TWO POINT FOUR MILLION WE GOT THIS YEAR.
SO WE PUT MONEY IN THERE FOR LAKESIDE PARK, RIGHT, AND FOR THE DETENTION AROUND THE BASE.
SO THE CULVERTS AT BATES TO FILL THAT IN.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE DONE ALREADY AND REALLY KIND OF REFINE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE UNDER AARP, IT SAID.
WATER WASTEWATER BROADBAND, AND IT SAID YOU COULD DO OTHER THINGS THAT FACILITATE THE WELL-BEING OF THE COMMUNITY TO HELP RECOVER FROM COVID AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE LISTS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY, NOT ANGLE TONIGHT, I SEE SOME VERY CREATIVE USES OF THE FUNDS, WHICH IS.
AND I JUST I WASN'T SURE IF WE ENHANCE THAT, THAT BUILDING TO SERVE MORE THAN RECREATION, THAT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE SOMEWHERE BEYOND THE RECREATION.
SO THIS YEAR WE GOT THE GENERATOR SWITCH OUT AT THE REC CENTERS.
WE ACTUALLY PULLED THE TRIGGER ON A GENERATOR AND HAD IT OUT THERE FOR A WEEK, BUT WE GOT POWER BACK, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO USE IT.
BUT AS WE ABLC MOVE THAT FORWARD WITH THE CITY NOW, SO WE'RE APPLYING FOR A MITIGATION GRANT FOR A GENERATOR.
SO AGAIN, THE HOPE IS TO HAVE A PERMANENT GENERATOR OUT THERE THAT'S CONNECTED TO GAS.
SO WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT FUELING ISSUES.
IT'S ALWAYS THERE SO WE CAN NOW APPLY FOR MITIGATION STUFF TO HELP IMPROVE THAT BUILDING.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO GET CREATIVE ON, YOU KNOW, WE SAY WE GOT SHOWERS, BUT WE NEED MORE SHOWERS OR WE NEED A BIGGER SPACE OR SOMETHING, OR MAYBE MOVE THE SHOWERS AND THEN RENOVATE TO ALLOW FOR MORE LIVABLE SPACE IN THERE OR USABLE.
THIS AND THE OTHER THING IS YOUR STAFF GROWS AND.
IS EVERYBODY HOUSED IN THE REC CENTER? NO, THEY ARE NOT, SO WE HAVE ADMIN STAFF, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JERRY OUT AT THE AOC, THE INGLETON OPERATIONS COMPLEX, AND THAT IS THE OLD SERVICE CENTER BUILDING JUST SOUTH TO EIGHTY EIGHT BUSINESS 288 SERVICE CENTER PUBLIC WORKS, RIGHT? AND SO WE ARE HOPEFULLY GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A FUTURE BOND TO REDEVELOP THAT SITE
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TO ALLOW FOR EXPANSION AND GROWTH BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING WE ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED AS YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN SOME NEW POSITIONS IN PARKS FOR LAKESIDE AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT WILL GROW ALSO ON THE REC SIDE AS WE EXPAND OUR OUTDOOR PROGRAMING.SO YES, WE WERE DEFINITELY ANTICIPATING GROWTH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS. JERRY AND I HAVE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT REDESIGNING THE ADMINISTRATIVE AREA AT THE REC CENTER TO ALLOW FOR MORE OFFICE SPACE AND EXPANSION WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT THAT WE HAVE. I WAS WONDERING YOU THE ONCE OR TWICE HAVE BEEN IN YOUR OFFICE.
IT'S CLAUSTROPHOBIC EVER SINCE THE REC CENTER WAS BUILT.
BEFORE THAT, THEY HAVE THE PARKS BOARD CHAIRMAN OR THE PARK PARKS DIRECTOR HAD NO OPTION BUT TO BE HERE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THEM IN A LITTLE PORTABLE BUILDING ON THIRTY FIVE ANYWAY. BUT ONCE A REC CENTER OPENED, EVERYBODY PREFERRED TO BE THERE THAN IN THE CITY HALL. BUT THE I DON'T I DON'T SEE THAT YOU HAD THE SPACE TO IF YOU IF YOU WANT YOUR STAFF THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE WHEN WE GET TO WHEREVER WE ADDED, ADD OWNER THERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE SPACE FOR YOU ALL OR ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN PLACE. IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT COULD BE MORE EFFICIENT FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR STAFF AND A CONFERENCE ROOM. EVERYTHING YOU NEED IN ONE SPOT, WHETHER IT WAS AND THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT OR YOU MAY LIKE IT BEING SPLIT UP, MAYBE CLAUSTROPHOBIC, BUT SHE DOESN'T HAVE RACCOONS. OH, THAT'S TRUE.
I THINK HONESTLY, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY, WE'RE SEEING THAT.
THAT'S A NEED. WE'RE SEEING THAT.
WE'RE SEEING IT POLICE, WE'RE SEEING IT AT THE REC CENTER AND EVEN OUR CURRENT MODULAR BUILDING. I MEAN, IT'S EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACT AND AND REALLY KEEP UP WITH THAT GROWTH.
WELL, THE REC ONLY WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR THE REFERENDUM TO GET THE HALF CENT SALES TAX FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] AND WE WERE WORKING ON THAT, WE SOLD THAT BUILDING AS THE REASON TO GET THE PEOPLE TO VOTE AND WE HAD SEVERAL MAIN AGENDAS THAT ATTRACTED THEM.
ONE OF THEM WE HAD TO GIVE UP WAS A ROOMS WHERE KIND OF LIKE A SMALL EVENT.
SO YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE SAY WE HAVE NOWHERE IN TOWN THEY HAVE A WEDDING OR RECEPTION, HAVE BIG PARTIES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WEREN'T THESE EVENTS CENTERS THAT ARE AROUND THE AREA NOW GETTING THOSE TO THE PEARL, WHICH IS CLOSED NOW AND TO THE ONE OUT ON 220.
BUT WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT ON HAVING A MORE? OUR MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS REALLY ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE.
IF YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU'VE BEEN TO THE FLORIDIAN ROOM AT THE SUMMERHOUSE APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW THAT ROOM WHERE IT OVERLOOKS A POOL, I THINK.
I BELIEVE SO. I THINK WE'VE DONE TRAINING THERE.
I DON'T THINK Y'ALL HAD A CITY STAFF MEETING THERE, IT'S DECENT SIZE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER ON THE [INAUDIBLE].
AND THEN THE ONE WHERE THE COURTYARD BY MARRIOTT, WHERE THAT FUNDRAISER WAS THAT ONE IS A LITTLE LARGER SIZE, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT GATHERED AS MUCH VOTES BACK THEN.
I KNOW IT'S IRRELEVANT NOW BECAUSE IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS, BUT IT WAS WANTED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
WOULD YOU EVER SEE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOUR PARKS WOULD WANT TO HAVE SPEAKERS]? ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THAT'S BEEN A DISCUSSION FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
I KNOW MARTHA AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS IT RELATES TO JUST HAVING SOMETHING FOR IF WE DO START BUILDING AND HOSTING SMALL WORKSHOPS OR CONFERENCES OR SEMINARS, WE DON'T HAVE A HOTEL ON SITE THAT HAS A CONFERENCE ROOM OR VENUE THAT CAN SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE MIGHT BE SOME REAL ESTATE WITHIN ANGLETON THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED AS SUCH, AND THAT'S A CONSIDERATION FOR EXPANSION.
WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE THERE YET, BUT ABSOLUTELY IT IS SOMETHING STAFF HAS DISCUSSED.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD GOING TO ONE OF THESE EVENTS CENTERS, FOR SOME.
SURE. SMALLER GROUP OUTING AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF CITY OFFERED SOMETHING BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I WASN'T SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING LONG TERM WE'RE LOOKING AT.
YES, I DO THINK THE CITY IS, IS AND WOULD CONSIDER THAT.
DO YOU WANT TO REFER TO? SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD PREFER BE CHANGED AROUND? DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THE REC CENTER IMPROVEMENTS UP OR.
WHAT'S THE 2 MILLION SLOTTED FOR SO WE HAD TO PUT SOME NUMBER IN THERE TO PROVIDE FOR OUR CIP PLANNING.
SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, EVEN AS WE EVALUATE ANNUALLY, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED
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JUST DUE TO INFLATION.AND SO THESE ARE NUMBERS THE TWO MILLION NUMBER CAME FROM IF WE WERE TO GO IN AND PUT IN JUST AN EPIC SPLASH PAD LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND A PLAYGROUND UNIT THAT'S ACCESSIBLE.
THAT'S THE KIND OF FUNDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO INCLUDE.
NOT NECESSARILY STUCK AT MUNICIPAL.
NOT AT ALL. SO THIS WOULD INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE SHELTERS, HOPEFULLY A RESTROOM AS WELL, WHETHER IT'S A PREFAB RESTROOM OR WHAT HAVE YOU, SOME OF YOUR SITE FURNISHINGS AND THEN EACH OF THOSE COMPONENTS.
WE HAVEN'T. OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU GO INTO DESIGN OF SOME OF THESE THINGS AND YOU GET PUBLIC INPUT ON WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE, THIS NUMBER COULD CHANGE DRASTICALLY.
SO HONESTLY, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT ONE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED THESE REALLY FOR ABLC BECAUSE THEY'RE GEARED TOWARDS PARKS RECREATION AND DRAINAGE.
AND I TALKED TO A VETERINARIAN TODAY AND ASKED HER THAT [INAUDIBLE] FIXING TO BUILD A HOUSE, BUT THEY ASKED FOR HER OPINION OF DOG PARKS, AND SHE SAID THAT OURS IS A CESSPOOL.
IT'S GREAT FOR A BUSINESS IT SPREADS EVERYTHING FROM SOME KIND OF WORMS TO DISEASES TO WHATEVER. BUT AND IT [INAUDIBLE] JUST SHARING IT.
BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE NICER, BUT SHE DOESN'T LIKE THEM, AND MAYBE WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH RESEARCH ON [INAUDIBLE] WAS HERE AND HE COULD PROBABLY HELP US, BUT SEPARATED AND SHE GETS A LOT OF DOG BITES FROM DOGS INTERACTING WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE BUT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER OPINION ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET SOMEBODY WHO DEALS WITH PETS AND IT WAS HER OPINION. SURE. YOU SAID YOU NEED TO DO THIS AND YOU DO THIS.
DON'T DO THIS IF WE HAVE STANDING WATER IT NEEDS TO BE FRESH? ABSOLUTELY. SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE THAT SO WHEN OR IF WE EVER DECIDE THAT'S A PRIORITY, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO ENGAGE.
ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S A GREAT NOTE.
THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SOME EXPERTISE.
WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO PRIORITIZING, OF COURSE I WANT EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT. BUT I THINK SINCE WE'VE BEEN KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, SO MUCH FOR THE SOUTHSIDE.
I KNOW WE KEEP CALLING THE MUNICIPAL POOL WHATEVER IT IS, BUT IF WE COULD MAYBE CHANGE THAT OUT AND JUST SAY A SOUTHSIDE PARK AND MAKE THAT A PRIORITY ONE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST UP TOWARD THE TOP.
OK. THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO HEAD IS LET'S PICK A PLACE FOR SOUTHSIDE PARK.
MOVE AROUND THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
YEAH, COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT NAME FOR THAT PLOT OF LAND AND CHANGE IT TO SOUTHSIDE PARK DEVELOPMENT. OK.
OUTSIDE PARKING SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU END UP MAKING THAT LOCATION, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PRIORITY OF A DOG PARK WOULD BE.
I'M WITH YOU ON GETTING THAT LIKE THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO GET INFORMATION ON WHAT A DOG PARK NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE SO THAT IT'S SAFE FOR THE DOG AND FOR THE OWNERS.
SO THERE'S NO ISSUES. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT IF YOU END UP USING SOUTHSIDE PARK, WHERE THAT DOG PARK IS NOW AND IN THAT AREA, YOU'RE BASICALLY ELIMINATING THAT AREA FOR THAT.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO KIND OF FIND A SPOT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD GO IN FRONT OF ANYTHING ELSE.
SPECIFICALLY, IT'S OK WHERE IT'S AT.
BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT, LIKE I SAID, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU END UP, WHAT YOU END UP DOING WITH SOUTHSIDE PARK AND WHERE YOU PUT IT, YOU MIGHT JUST BE ELIMINATING THE DOG PARK.
IF THAT'S THE CASE NOW, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT? AND IS THERE A LOCATION THAT YOU COULD PLACE A DOG PARK IN? AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP JUST INTERNAL STAFF CONVERSATIONS IS IF A DOG PARK IS LOCATED WITHIN A LARGER PARK, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO SEE LATER ON IN THE PARK SURVEY IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'D KEEP THAT NAME.
IT WOULD BE A SUB NAME, JUST LIKE YOU SEE AT LAKE JACKSON REC CENTER, AND THEY HAVE THE DOG PARK NAMED WITHIN, I WOULD SAY, MCLEAN PARK.
IT JUST BECOMES THE DESIGNATED DOG PARK WITHIN THIS OVERALL SOUTHSIDE PARK.
SO WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IF WE DO HAPPEN TO ELIMINATE THE ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
HOW MANY ACRES ARE YOU CONSIDERING ALLOCATING?
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SO THAT IS A HARD QUESTION.WE'RE STILL LOOKING INTO THAT.
I REACHED OUT TO SOME GROUPS IN OUR GREATER GULF COAST AREA.
WE HAVE A DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION AND SO WE'RE SOLICITING FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
WE ALSO SOLICITED FEEDBACK IN THIS SURVEY, WHICH IS A LARGE RANGE IF YOU'VE REVIEWED SOME OF THE NOTES. AND SO AFTER I REVIEWED IT, I FEEL LIKE OUR SIZE MAY NOT BE TOO BAD.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO CHANGE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, NOT THE AESTHETICS OF WHAT THE ACTUAL PARK LOOKS LIKE. YES, WE NEED TO DO THAT.
BUT EVEN SHAPING IT APPROPRIATELY SO THAT, LIKE STEVEN MENTIONED IN ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY THROW A FRISBEE LONG ENOUGH FOR THE LARGER DOGS TO RUN, AND IT'S NOT CAPPED OFF IN A WEIRD ANGLE TO WHERE YOU'RE NOT REALLY ALLOWING FOR SPACE.
SO I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SITE AND THE SPACING THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT FUNCTIONAL, IF YOU WILL.
ONE IDEA WITH A DOG PARK, AND I THINK WE TOUCHED ON IT LAST TIME, IF THESE SUBDIVISIONS ARE SUCCESSFUL TO COME UP WITH A SMALL LOTS AND SMALL BACKYARDS, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE. THEY HAVE LARGER DOGS OUT TO RUN, SO WE'LL HAVE A NEED TO BRING THEM SOMEWHERE.
PERSONALLY, I'D RATHER SEE THEM GO TO A DOG PARK THEN ALL COME TO FREEDOM PARK OR ALL COME TO A PARK WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY GOOD DOG PARENTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY PICK UP THEIR DROPPINGS AND TAKE CARE OF THEM.
BUT IF THEY HAD A PLACE TO GO, MAYBE RATHER THAN MIXING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT LIKE DOGS WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION FOR ME.
OK, I LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THIS.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REC CENTER, PARTICULARLY THE OUTSIDE, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE WHEN THE REC CENTER CONSTRUCTION OR ADDITION TO THE BUILDING, BUT THE OUTSIDE AMENITIES SOMEWHERE UP THERE.
I THINK THE ABLC, AT LEAST DR.
JACKSON AND CHARLOTTE AND I WILL PROBABLY AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT MAY ENHANCE A REVENUE THERE TOO, EVEN THOUGH THE OUTSIDE AMENITIES SHOULD BE FREE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, SAY, RENTING PLACES FOR PARTIES OR SOMETHING.
SURE YEAH. AND SOME THINGS THAT WE TALKED TO YOU GUYS ABOUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE VISITED PASADENA.
THEIR OUTDOOR STRAWBERRY WATER PARK, HAVE RENTABLE PERGOLA TYPE OF THINGS, IF YOU WILL.
SO THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD INCLUDE AMENITIES THAT WE CAN INCLUDE WITH A FUTURE OUTDOOR EXPANSION THAT WOULD HELP US GENERATE SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
AND SO WHAT I MAY DO WHEN WE LOOK AT REVISING THE CIP PLAN AND JUST UPDATING NUMBERS IS SEPARATING TWO COMPONENTS AND INDOOR EXPANSION AS FAR AS FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING AND THEN OUTDOOR COMPONENT SO THAT WE CAN BUMP THAT UP AND MOVE THAT AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT IS THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT? SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON DEVELOPING WITH OUR HIKE AND BIKE SUBCOMMITTEE.
MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A TRAIL SYSTEM.
NO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE FIRST NO I'M KIDDING. BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS KIND OF UP IN THE TOP HALF OF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE ALL WOULD AGREE WE WISH WE HAD A PLAN FOR, BUT WE PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO COME UP WITH ONE ANY TIME SOON AND THAT'S WELCH. WELL, I MEAN, IN THE SENSE OF LIKE IDEAS THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH FOR IT, WHAT'S SUSTAINABLE OUT THERE, WHAT WE DON'T HAVE AND WHAT WE DO HAVE BECAUSE OF WHERE IT'S AT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO NECESSARILY BE IN THE TOP HALF OF THIS.
ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER FROM THE LAST MEETING IS THAT YOU GUYS PROVIDED APPROVAL FOR US TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT APPROVAL IS TAKE THAT TO CITY COUNCIL.
I BELIEVE TOMORROW IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA TO BE DISCUSSED IF THEY GIVE US APPROVAL. WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON DEVELOPING THAT RFP TO BE ADVERTISED AND POTENTIALLY BE DEVELOPED BY SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF US.
SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP HOPE ON WELCH [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT YET.
BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT US IS ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO PLANT A BUNCH OF TREES IN THE MEANTIME.
I AGREE. AND I LIKE THE $128 MILLION DOLLAR TOTAL ON THE CIP.
I'M SURE THAT IS TO BE SPREAD OUT OVER THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS OR NOT HAVE BEEN I'M SURE JOHN WRIGHT APPROVES OF THAT.
[LAUGHTER] SO FROM US, DO YOU NEED A.
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IS THIS AN ACTION OR JUST DISCUSSION? THIS IS DISCUSSION. SO LET ME JUST RECAP WHAT I HAVE WHEN WE MOVE INTO DOG PARK PLANNING WE'LL ENGAGE SOME LOCAL VETS FOR INPUT.MUNICIPAL POOL MAY NOT BE IN THE BEST PLACE DUE TO CONSTRAINTS.
CONSIDER RENAMING IT SOUTHSIDE PARK AND MAKE THAT THE FIRST PRIORITY AND COULD POTENTIALLY INCLUDE A DOG PARK.
WE COULD ALSO CONSIDER SELLING TO COMMERCIAL FOR THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL POOL SITE, WHERE THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL POOL SITE IS AND USE FUNDS FOR ADDITIONAL PARK DEVELOPMENT.
AND PURCHASING LAND ADJACENT TO THE DETENTION AT THE REC CENTER, AND ALSO CONSIDER OUTSIDE AMENITIES SOONER THAN LATER AND AS WELL AS THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN, MOVE UP IN OUR PRIORITIZATION.
YES. SO ALL OF THOSE TOGETHER, OTHER THAN GOING OUT AND ACTUALLY WORKING AND PUTTING TOGETHER THE SOUTHSIDE PARK, ASSUMING YOU HAD THE PLACE FOR IT.
I WOULD CONSIDER THEM MORE IN THE LOW HANGING FRUIT RATHER THAN FOR THE BOND.
SO ARE WE ACTUALLY ANSWERING THE QUESTION WITH THIS OR DO WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC? WHAT I WILL SAY IS IT PROVIDES A PRIORITY FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY WANT IN A BOND PACKAGE, AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE ABLC'S BOND PACKAGE.
SO WE COULD CONSIDER COS OR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, WHICH WE MAY BE ABLE TO PLUG IN SOME OF THESE PRIORITIES SO THAT ABLC CAN ADDRESS SOME OTHER ITEMS WITH THEIR BOND CAPACITY. OK. SO IT JUST REALLY HELPS US IDENTIFY, HEY, WHAT DO WE WANT TO HIT OUT FIRST? AND I WILL ALSO SAY, CONVERSELY, THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHER BONDS WILL PAY FOR SOME OF THESE PARKS IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THE REALITY IS NONE OF THESE ARE GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY SO WE CAN ADJUST THIS AS WE GO. RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT,
[8. Discussion and possible action on future park development.]
THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT.WITH OUR OUR SURVEY, I WAS EXCITED TO SEE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE.
WE'VE GOT SOME SUMMARIES THAT I'LL TRY TO RECAP AS QUICKLY AS I CAN SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN DISCUSSING. I HOPE YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE INPUT.
SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE WATCHING OR LISTENING IN.
UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE REASONS THAT WE'VE GONE OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR INPUT ARE BECAUSE OF ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED AS LOW HANGING FRUIT IN OUR MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
SO SOME OF THOSE ITEMS WERE THE MUNICIPAL POOL VETERANS PARK, RUEBEN WELCH PARK AND OFFICER CASH MEMORIAL DOG PARK.
WE ALSO MET AS A GROUP EARLIER THIS YEAR REGARDING WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE IN EACH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, SO THAT'S BEEN CAPTURED IN THIS AGENDA SUMMARY AS WELL.
I WON'T REVIEW THAT IN TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT I WILL GO INTO OUR SUMMARY TO SAY THAT ABOUT SEVENTY NINE PEOPLE TOOK THE SURVEY AND THE RESULTS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET FOR DISCUSSION. SO REGARDING THE PARK ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF TOWN, MOST INDIVIDUALS WOULD USE THIS PARK FOR WALKING, EXERCISE, PLAY FAMILY ACTIVITIES, BIKING AND PLAYGROUND AND SPLASH PAD USE. MOST INDIVIDUALS THINK CITIZENS OF ALL AGES WOULD UTILIZE THIS PARK.
THE TOP FIVE AMENITIES DESIRED ARE A PLAYGROUND FOR AGES 5 TO 12 TRAILS, SPLASH PAD PLAYGROUND FOR AGES TWO TO FIVE AND SWINGS.
IF THERE WAS A SIDEWALK, IF THERE WERE SIDEWALKS TO CONNECT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, INDIVIDUALS WOULD MOST LIKELY BIKE OR WALK.
IF THERE WERE NO SIDEWALKS FOR CONNECTIVITY, INDIVIDUALS WOULD MOST LIKELY DRIVE A CAR.
THE PARK WOULD BE USED MOSTLY ON THE WEEKEND OR DURING THE WEEK AT VARIOUS TIMES, SO THAT ONE WAS PRETTY BIG. IT WAS A LITTLE ALL OVER THE PLACE, EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED, AND SEVENTY EIGHT PERCENT OF RESPONDENTS WOULD LIKE A SPLASH PAD AT THIS PARK.
I WANT TO ACTUALLY STOP THERE AND GET SOME OF YOUR INPUT SO THAT WE DON'T MUDDLE THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE RECEIVING ON EACH SITE THAT WE'VE SOLICITED FEEDBACK ON.
SO IF YOU GUYS COULD TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARK ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF TOWN, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT IS CONGRUENT TO WHAT YOU HAD EXPECTED.
AND IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED.
I'M NOT FOR POSITIVE THAT THAT IS THE BEST PLACE FOR A SPLASH PAD.
OK. THEY'RE NOT. WHAT IS THIS TYPICAL EPIC SPLASH PAD THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING?
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WHAT KIND OF EXPENSE? OH YEAH.SO WE'RE LOOKING UP TO PROBABLY ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT.
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE PARKING BIGGER BATHROOMS. ABSOLUTELY. YOU BET.
ANYTHING THAT MAY NOT BE THE IDEAL PLACE FOR AN EPIC SPLASH PAD.
I LIKE THE LOCATION THAT CHRIS YOUNG CHRIS TALKED ABOUT WAS THE SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE AT THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL POOL SITE, WHICH IS THINKING PART OF OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT OPTION BUT.
WHAT I WILL SAY ON THIS ONE ON THIS INFORMATION, THIS IS JUST IF THERE WERE A PARK ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF TOWN. SO WE DIDN'T SPECIFY IN THESE LINE OF QUESTIONINGS THAT THIS WAS THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE.
SO THIS WAS JUST IF IT COULD BE ANYWHERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE THERE? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET THERE, ET CETERA.
SO REALLY, WE AREN'T SPECIFYING THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE, BUT I WILL SAY FOR THE FOLLOWING LINE OF QUESTIONING THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE.
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED AND THE ANSWERS THAT WE RECEIVED WERE THAT A MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SITE USED FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT.
WE ALSO HAD OTHER OPTIONS ON THE SURVEY, LIKE TREE RESTORATION OR SPECIAL USE, LIKE A SKATE PARK. WE DID RECEIVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF FEEDBACK ON THAT, BUT A MAJORITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT USED FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT.
TOP THREE PARK AMENITY IDEAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT LOCATION WERE A SPLASH PAD PLAYGROUND FOR 5 TO 12 AND TWO TO FIVE.
SEVENTY FOUR PERCENT OF RESPONDENTS ARE IN FAVOR OF THE SITE BEING A SPECIAL USE PARK FOR SOMETHING LIKE A SKATE PARK, SO THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO CONSIDER IS WHILE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE A.
WHAT I TOOK FROM THIS IS PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SOUTHSIDE PARK.
THEY WANT IT TO BE ACCESSIBLE.
THEY WANT TO HAVE PLAYGROUNDS FOR VARIOUS AGES.
THEY'D LOVE TO SEE A SPLASH PARK, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE AT THIS LOCATION LIKE WE'VE DISCUSSED. WELL, I WASN'T WHEN I MENTIONED THAT LOCATION AND CONSTRAINTS I WAS ACTUALLY REFERRING TO THE FIVE ACRES OF THE COMBINED AREA.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE BECAUSE OH, I UNDERSTAND. BUT EVEN THERE, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE A BIG DRAW BECAUSE IF ANYTHING NEW LIKE THAT.
IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MAY NOT BE THE BEST PLACE FOR IT VERSUS THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. JUST THE LOCATION.
OK. SO ARE YOU CONSIDERING ANNEXING ANY AREAS, MAYBE A BETTER AREA.
NOT NECESSARILY ANNEXING, BUT A LATER ITEM WE WILL DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL PURCHASE OF A PIECE OF LAND ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF TOWN, WHICH OF COURSE, WE DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE, NECESSARILY AS A CITY PURCHASING A POTENTIAL PROPERTY.
BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PARKS BOARD WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER, THEN WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT FURTHER AND BRING IT TO YOU ALL IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO IF YOU HAVE A PIECE OF LAND OUTSIDE THE CITY, WE WILL PROBABLY ANNEX IT IF YOU DONATE IT. IF I DONATE IT? [LAUGHTER] YEAH.
SO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COLLECTED ON THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE WAS A MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF SELLING THIS PROPERTY.
IF THERE WAS A SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY, INDIVIDUALS WOULD MOST LIKELY BIKE OR WALK.
ONE THING THAT CHRIS JUST MENTIONED IS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH TXDOT AND HDR ENGINEERING TO MOVE DWYER TO EXIT A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH.
SO THERE'S ALREADY AN INLET CUT RIGHT PAST, OH GOSH, BASICALLY A GUARDRAIL ON SOUTH 288.
AND SO WE'RE REQUESTING THAT TXDOT RECONSIDER RELOCATING THAT DRIVE, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY BE PART OF CONSTRUCTION IF THIS WERE TO DEVELOP.
BUT WHAT IT DOES IS ALLOW US A LARGER FOOTPRINT TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP A PARK AT THAT SITE IF WE SO CHOSE OR ANOTHER AMENITY LIKE AN ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER OR WHAT HAVE YOU, SO.
A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, VETERAN PARK, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH IT AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND READ THROUGH AND THEN IF YOU GUYS WANT TO CHIME IN, PLEASE DO.
VETERANS PARK REDEVELOPMENT RESPONDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PARK USED FOR FOOD TRUCKS, CONCERTS, EVENTS, FAMILY EVENTS, FAMILY ACTIVITIES AND PICNICS.
THE PARK WOULD BE USED MOST LIKELY ON THE WEEKEND OR DURING THE WEEK AT VARIOUS TIMES, AND 82 PERCENT OF THE RESPONDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO USE THE PARK IF AMPLE SEATING WAS PROVIDED. SO I THINK WE'RE ON PACE WITH WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN OUR PRELIMINARY DESIGN REQUESTS, AND SO I KNOW THE CITY IS ANXIOUS TO MOVE FORWARD AS PROBABLY YOU ALL ARE TOO TO KIND OF REDEVELOP THAT SITE.
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OFFICER CASH MEMORIAL DOG PARK REDEVELOPMENT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF FIFTY NINE RESPONDENTS. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS SOME ABOUT 20 RESPONDENTS SINCE WE HAD SEVENTY NINE, 20 RESPONDENTS SKIPPED THIS QUESTION.SO SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF FIFTY NINE RESPONDENTS WERE DOG OWNERS.
THE SIZE OF A DOG PARK RANGE FROM ONE TO FIVE ACRES, SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF A RANGE THERE. EIGHTY THREE PERCENT OF FIFTY FIVE RESPONDENTS PREFERRED LARGE AND SMALL DOG AREAS TO BE SEPARATED.
THE TOP FIVE DOG PARK AMENITIES INCLUDED SHADE, DOG DRINKING FOUNTAINS, WALKING TRAIL WASH STATIONS AND INTERACTIVE WATER FEATURE.
PREFERENCE FOR A STANDALONE DOG PARK AND DOG PARK INCORPORATED INTO A LARGER PARK WAS NEARLY SPLIT AT 50 PERCENT AND FORTY NINE POINT ONE TO ACCORDINGLY, AND MONDAY IS PREFERRED DAY OF CLOSURE FOR DOG PARK MAINTENANCE.
SO WHEN STEWARD AND STAFF GO OUT FOR PARK TOURS, WE ALWAYS ASK IF THEY HAVE A DOG PARK TO TAKE US AROUND TO VARIOUS FACILITIES.
SO WE TYPICALLY ASK A DOG PARK, A SPECIAL USE PARK BALL FIELD, SO THAT WE CAN SEE HOW THEY MAINTAIN THINGS, WHAT THEY DO DIFFERENTLY, WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.
WHAT WE HAVE FOUND AT NEARLY ALL DOG PARKS THAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT THEY MINIMALLY CLOSE ONCE A WEEK SO THAT THEY CAN DO MAINTENANCE.
THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO MOW WHILE THERE'S NOT FOCUS ON THE PROPERTY, SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO ASK PEOPLE TO LEAVE.
IT ALSO GIVES TIME FOR ANY KIND OF MAINTENANCE THAT WE HAVE DONE TO HAVE JUST A REST PERIOD. THERE ARE SOME MUNICIPALITIES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE WEEKS AT A TIME, LIKE IF THEY'RE PLANNING RYEGRASS OR DOING DIFFERENT THINGS TO HELP JUST KIND OF RESTORE THE GRASS.
SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER THERE.
SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS OR INPUT RATHER ON EACH OF THESE SITES AND HOW THEY ARE TO BE DEVELOPED AS WE MOVE FORWARD? I THINK SOUTHSIDE PARK HAS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY THROUGH SIDEWALKS.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE OTHER PARKS THAT WE HAVE FREEDOM, REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS SIDEWALKS TO IT. BATES, DICKEY DOESN'T REALLY, YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO IT.
EVEN MASTERSON HAS FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD YOU CAN TO AN EXTENT, BUT THERE'S NOT ACTUAL SIDEWALKS TO CONNECT TO IT.
IT'S JUST A ROAD. MASTERSON IS YOU HAVE TO EITHER WALK ON THIRTY FIVE OR SPEAKERS] GO DOWN ORANGE. YEAH ORANGE.
AND YOU HAVE TO WALK IN THE STREET, RIGHT.
AND SO LIKE, THERE'S NOT THAT THAT ABILITY TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY THROUGH SIDEWALKS IS, I THINK, HUGE, ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT THE SOUTHSIDE PARK TO BE UTILIZED LIKE WE WANT IT TO BE. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT PARK OVER THERE ON THAT SIDE, AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WALK THERE BIKE THERE, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S HUGE.
I THINK OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S ON HERE THAT WAS IMPORTANT.
TOP 5 OF THE PARK COMMUNITIES, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, THE PLAYGROUND TRAILS, ALL OF THAT STUFF. I THINK DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF IT HAVING A COOL LITTLE TRAIL THAT GOES AROUND IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL.
AGAIN. IF THEY'RE GOING TO WALK AND BIKE, THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WHILE THEY'RE THERE PLAYING.
I SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT I HAVE A LITTLE BIT SURPRISE ON THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE AND PEOPLE BEING IN FAVOR OF IT AS A SKATE PARK.
IT MAKES SENSE. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO UNDO EVERYTHING.
BUT LIKE YOU HAD A POOL THERE SO PEOPLE CAN USE THAT AS LIKE A BOWL.
BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY SURPRISING TO ME.
I DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE THAT MANY PEOPLE DOING THAT.
BUT I MEAN, I'M KIND OF WITH CHRIS HERE.
IF YOU CAN INCLUDE A SPLASH PAD IN SOUTHSIDE PARK, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN'T, BUT YOU CAN STILL MAKE IT A PRETTY AMAZINGLY AWESOME SOUTHSIDE PARK.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO FIND A SPOT FOR THE SPLASH PAD.
BUT YEAH, I THINK PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO WALK AND BIKE THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE MASSIVE ON THE SOUTHSIDE APPRECIATED. AGREED.
YEAH. SO WHAT IS A TIMELINE FOR VETERANS PARK? DO YOU HAVE NEXT FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS? DO YOU? JUST CURIOUS HOW WOULD.
BE HONEST NOT KNOWING WHERE OR OUR CAPACITY TO BOND AND SEVERAL OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS I WOULD SAY TO ME A ABLC BOND CAPACITY WOULD LIKELY BE USED FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
AND SO IF WE CAN'T FIND MONEY AND I'M JUST TOTALLY SPEAKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I HAVE NOT TALKED TO CHRIS.
BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE OR WOULD NOT INCLUDE PARK DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN THROUGH DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR VETERANS, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD GET THERE WITHIN OR ANY SOONER THAN THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
SO SOME ALTERNATIVES COULD BE THAT IF WE GO OUT FOR A GO BOND AND WE INCLUDE SOUTHSIDE
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PARK IN THAT THAT ALLEVIATES THE PRESSURE ON ABLC AND THEN THEY COULD INCORPORATE VETERANS. THEY COULD DO VETERANS BEFORE THEY DID FREEDOM.I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TEMPERATURE FOR ABLC WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THAT.
SO AN ALTERNATIVE COULD BE IN THE BENEFIT OF NOT UTILIZING ALL OF OUR PARK LAND DEDICATION FUNDS IS SAYING, HEY, WE'VE GOT PARK LAND DEDICATION FUNDS OF X NUMBER.
THAT'S OUR MATCHING PORTION TO GO OUT FOR A SMALL URBAN GRANT, WHICH YOU CAN RECEIVE UP TO SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND SO ONCE WE COMPLETE LAKESIDE CONSTRUCTION, WE TALKED EVEN EARLIER THIS YEAR, PATTY SWARTZ AND I DID WITH TPW ON WHY BATES DICKEY GRANT WASN'T CONSIDERED.
ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS WAS THAT WE HADN'T CLOSED OUT LAKESIDE.
HOWEVER, HE'S NOTED THAT THAT SHOULD EVERYTHING'S BEEN RECONCILED, THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. AND SO THAT TELLS ME WE WILL BE FINE FOR THIS NEXT GRANT SEASON.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER IS THAT AS LONG AS WE HAVE MATCHING FUNDS UP TO WHATEVER PERCENTAGE IT IS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER GOING OUT FOR A SMALL URBAN TPW GRANT, THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER FUNDING MECHANISM THAT I WOULD CONSIDER.
CHRIS, ARE YOU THINKING OF ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO THAT? SO THE THEORY IS WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT FOR A BOND, MAYBE NEXT FEBRUARY FOR THE ANGLETON OPERATION CENTER. SO IT'LL MOVE MEGAN AND JEFF AND THE OTHER AND JASON OUT OF THAT TEMPORARY BUILDING, NEW APARTMENT BUILDING.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW TO HAVE SOME FOR CITY COUNCIL.
BUT SO THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS SO THERE'S OTHER NEEDS OF THE CITY THAT STILL NEED TO GET DONE, AND SO DO WE TAKE VETERANS PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, AND MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT THE CITY DOES IN COORDINATION WITH THAT BOND AND THEN ABLC GOES OUT FOR THE SOUTHSIDE PARK OR WHATEVER.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT AGAIN, THIS IS SORT OF PRE DECISIONAL.
BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT BOND LOOK LIKE FOR CITY NEEDS AND THAT FITS THE LIVEABLE CENTER STUDY? AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO IF WE LIKE THAT CONCEPT.
YOU MET WITH TEXAS, NEW MEXICO ABOUT PUTTING THOSE POWER LINES UNDERGROUND, AND THAT FREES UP IF WE WANT TO PUT THAT PAVILION ON THAT NORTH SIDE.
IF WE WANT TO CLOSE CHENANGO, IF WE WANT TO MOVE THE FLAGPOLES TO THE WEST SIDE OR WHATEVER, WE CAN START DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS OR GETTING RID OF THE VEGETATION THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE AND DO A LOT OF THOSE SORT OF PREP TASKS SO THAT AS WE MOVE THINGS FORWARD, WE'RE ALREADY MOVING THAT WAY.
AND THEN IT'S LESS WE HAVE TO GO BOND THAT.
I KNOW ON THE ABLC, WE WILL WEIGH IT ON THE RECREATIONAL VALUE WHEN WE LOOK AT A PROJECT AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK MAY NOT COMPARE IT TO A SPLASH PAD OR THE COMPLETION OF FREEDOM PARK. BUT ONE OF THE CONCEPTS WE SAW AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO IT CAME FROM THAT MEMORIALIZE VETERANS MORE.
IT HAD LIKE GRANITE OR SOME FEATURES AROUND THE BACK IN AN ARC OR SEMI.
IF WE'RE. MY OPINION IS WE NEED TO BE EVERYBODY IN SYNC THAT WHEN WE DO A PARK, WE DO IT RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE JUST DID.
YOU KNOW WE HAD THIS MONEY, BUT WE NEVER FINISHED IT.
IF THE VETERANS PARK, IF WE GO OUT THERE AND WE PUT THE KIND OF AMENITIES WE TALKED ABOUT, WHENEVER WHOEVER PREPARED THAT THAT WE SAW, IT'D BE NICE TO GO AHEAD AND DO ALL OF THAT. AND YOU KNOW IT, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE JUST TO DO IT RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW IF AGAIN, I GUESS I WAS KIND OF REFERENCING IS SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE STAGE WERE GO TO THAT SORT OF NORTHEAST CORNER WHERE CHENANGO MEETS THE ALLEY, IF WE DO THE POWER LINE PREP AND THAT'S WHERE WE START PUTTING THE STAGE IN HOPES OF THE FUTURE WAY, THEN THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND IT'S MOVING IT FORWARD.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, I WOULD BOND OUT FOR THE WHOLE THING SO THAT YOU GET EVERY SINGLE THING YOU WANT IN THAT AND YOU GET THAT PROFESSIONAL, CLEAN AND PROFESSIONAL LOOK OUT OF THAT.
I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A CITY USE FUNCTION, CONCERTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS VERSUS A SPLASH PAD. AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD PROPOSE PUTTING THAT IN THE CITY RESPONSIBILITY AND HAVING ABLC GO OUT FOR SOUTHSIDE PARK, WHEREVER THAT IS OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM? YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM US ON THAT ONE? ARE YOU GOOD, MEGAN?
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SO IF YOU GUYS ON THE OFFICER CASH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE INPUT FROM THE PARKS BOARD ON MORE DEFINITIVE IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE I'VE ALREADY ON SOUTHSIDE PARK I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOT TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY.TRAILS WOULD BE NICE, INCLUDING A SPLASH PAD OR NOT IF IT DOESN'T WORK, AND IT NOT NECESSARILY BEING AT THAT CURRENT MUNICIPAL POOL SITE WITH RESPECT TO THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE. IF WE DO NOT DEVELOP A PARK THERE, WHAT IS THE INPUT OF THE PARKS BOARD ON HOW THAT IS REDEVELOPED? I'M ALL FOR SELLING IT TO HAVE SOME MONEY, TO DO SOME MORE DEVELOP MORE PARKS IMPROVEMENTS.
COULD IT BE A CONSIDERATION FOR AN ALTERNATE LOCATION FOR OTHER CITY FACILITIES? CERTAINLY. SO IF WE ABSORBED ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER, THAT MAY BE ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER UTILIZES THAT SITE AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
IF NOT, I MEAN, I CAN NOTE THAT TO YOU.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE IDEAL WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
WE HAVE WATER. WE HAVE SEWER THERE.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING.
BUT AS YOU SAID, THE CITY IS RUNNING OUT OF LOCATIONS FOR THINGS MOVING IF DOING A BIGGER SOUTHSIDE PARK, WHEREVER, WHETHER IT'S ON THE LAND THERE BY THE DOG PARK, WE MAY NOT NEED ANOTHER POCKET PARK BECAUSE IT'S.
RIGHT. IN THE PAST WE TRIED TO DO AWAY WITH THOSE BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE, RIGHT.
TO ME, A FACILITY STRUCTURE, SOME SORT THAT YOU ALL COULD USE WOULD BE MORE FITTING THERE.
OKAY. I ALSO THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF WHERE THAT'S LOCATED AT, I MEAN, IT'D BE REALLY HARD TO PUT A REALLY GOOD PARK THERE, RIGHT.
BECAUSE YOU ARE KIND OF LIKE WITH THE WAY THE ROAD IS AND THE LACK OF PARKING, RIGHT.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REDEVELOPING, WE'VE JUST INTERNALLY OR THIS BOARD HAS APPROVED THE MINIMUM PARK STANDARDS, WHICH IS A MINIMUM OF FIVE ACRES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
ALSO. EVEN RELOCATING DWYER STREET, YOU STILL GET ITS HEAVY TRAFFIC, SO IT'S NOT VERY GOOD. AND THEN VETERANS PARK REDEVELOPMENT.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT DEVELOPED AS WE TENTATIVELY HAVE IT PLANNED AND IN FULL. OK? AND OFFICER CASH MEMORIAL DOG PARK REDEVELOPMENT IS THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD THAT THAT BE INCLUDED IN A SOUTHSIDE PARK SEPARATE FROM AND DO YOU HAVE A GAUGE ON THE NUMBER OF ACRES? I THINK WE NEED MORE INPUT FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
YEP. YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THE DOG PARK. I CAN'T TELL THEM FIVE ACRES IS ENOUGH OR NOT.
SO I WILL REPORT BACK TO THE GROUP AND DO SOME RESEARCH? HOW MANY ACRES DO WE HAVE COMBINED? YOU SAY ON THAT? IF THE DOG PARK WHERE THE BUILDINGS WERE? SO IT'S A LITTLE FIVE POINT THREE ACRES.
TO ME. WE COULD DO LIKE, JAIME SAID, LET'S BUILD A NICE PARK AND JUST USE IT ALL FOR PARK AND NOT DOG PARK AND PARK.
I WOULD ALMOST SAY YOU WOULD WANT A DOG PARK TO BE A STANDALONE PARK.
YES, UNLESS WE SOMEHOW HAVE 15 ACRES SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TOWN AVAILABLE TO US, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE DO. OK, YOU HAD 15 TO 20 ACRES SOMEWHERE.
SOUTH SIDE THEN YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THEM TOGETHER, BUT NOT ON, NOT ON A 5 ACRE TRACT.
NEED TO EAT UP TWO AND A HALF OF THAT ON A DOG PARK.
I THINK FIVE ACRES FOR A SOUTHSIDE PARK IS TOO SMALL.
ANYWAY, WE NEED TO LOOK AT A BIGGER PIECE OF LAND.
THAT HELPS ME, THAT PROVIDES WHAT I NEEDED.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON PARK DEVELOPMENT ON ANDERSON
[9. Discussion and possible action on park development on Anderson, Kiber and other south side alternatives.]
STREET, KIBER AND SOUTH SIDE ALTERNATIVES.RIGHT. SO WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT ALREADY.
I'VE INCLUDED SOME OF THE BCAD NOTES JUST KIND OF OUTLINING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THE ACRES ARE HIGHLIGHTED AND THE MINIMAL INFORMATION PROVIDED ON EACH OF THOSE.
SO WE'VE GOT A KIBER LOT AND ANDERSON LOT.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT? IS THERE ONE MORE? HOPEFULLY THERE'S ONE MORE.
IS IT THE ONE WHERE THE ANIMAL CONTROL BUILDING? OH YES, THERE IS. SO WE'RE THE PD.
THE OLD PD STORAGE BUILDING WAS OFF OF KIBER THAT'S BEEN RECENTLY DEMOLISHED.
PART OF THAT LOT WAS ALSO USED FOR A DOG PARK.
SO WE REALLY HAVE OR COULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF MAXIMIZING THIS ENTIRE CORNER IF THAT WERE REDEVELOPED.
AND THAT GETS YOU THESE PROPERTIES TOGETHER.
TOTAL ABOUT FIVE POINT THREE ACRES.
WE DID RECENTLY DEMOLISH THOSE AREAS, SO IT COULD BE RECONSIDERED FOR A SOUTHSIDE LOCATION, ESPECIALLY IF WE WERE TO RELOCATE ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER.
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SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER.ANOTHER THING THAT I HAD MENTIONED OR ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE IS ACQUIRING PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE FUNDS REQUESTED NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND AND ONE OF THE PIECES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST KNOWING WHAT WE BELIEVE, THE VALUE TO BE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF REALTORS OR STAFF DID ON A SUGGESTED AMOUNT, AND WE WOULD NOT CONSIDER GOING ABOVE THAT AMOUNT.
AND THIS PROPERTY, I BELIEVE IT'S NEARLY SEVEN ACRES AND IS ALSO LOCATED ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF TOWN.
IS IT FURTHER SOUTH. I WOULD SAY IT'S SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
THAT'S ALL THE INFO SHE CAN GIVE US.
[LAUGHTER] SO THIS WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING IS WITH ANDERSON, KIBER AND CASH, WHAT IS THE LITTLE AREA ON THE BOTTOM LEFT THAT HAS ACTUALLY HITS THE EXCHANGE THERE OF KIBER AND.
RIGHT THE CORNER? THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY? RIGHT. GOTCHA. AND THEY DO HAVE I MEAN, WE'VE GOT, I BELIEVE, MISMATCHED FENCING AROUND THAT AREA. SO AGAIN, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF WORK IN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
SO I'M NOT TOO TERRIBLY CONCERNED, BUT IT IS A CONSIDERATION SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. RIGHT.
AND SO OFF OF KIBER, THIS PARK WOULD NOT BE ACCESSIBLE.
YOU'RE ONLY ACCESSIBILITY POINT IS GOING TO BE OFF OF ANDERSON.
DEVELOP SIDEWALKS AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
I MEAN, THAT IS SOMETHING YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHERE THE LOCATION IS IF IT'S FARTHER OUT SIDEWALKS. SURE. YES.
AT THIS PROPOSED LOCATION, THERE WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY.
ON ANDERSON. NO, AT THE ALTERNATE LOCATION THAT WE CANNOT DISCLOSE.
GOT YOU. GOT YOU. GOT IT. BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE ON THIS LOCATION.
THEY'D HAVE TO BE BUILT IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, WELL, THERE'S SIDEWALKS ON THE ANDERSON YOU WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP SOMETHING ON THAT SIDE LIKE ON THE KIBER SIDE IF YOU DO THIS NO. IT'S YOU GOT A DITCH.
THE DITCHES, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE TOO COSTLY SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WHILE WE COULD DO IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PARK YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE STRETCH TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. SO YEAH.
BUT WHAT IS YOUR YOUR OPINION, SEEING THE ALTERNATE SITE AND THAT KIND OF MONEY ARE USING WHAT IS THE COST GOING TO BE THE EXISTING SITE TO HAVE IT CLEAN ENOUGH AND THERE COMPARED TO YOUR ALTERNATE SITE? I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME CONSTRAINTS WITH THE SITE, BUT HAVING TALKED WITH CITY STAFF, WE BELIEVE WE CAN WORK AROUND THE CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE PRESENTED. IT'S A CLEANER SITE, IT'S WIDE OPEN AND IT'S LARGER.
SO YOU PICK THE KIBER ANDERSON OR YOU PICK THIS OTHER SITE AND THEN SAY, LIKE, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT. SO PUT THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE UP FOR SALE, RIGHT.
SO YOU'D HAVE THAT MONEY GET YOU MAY GET SOMETHING BACK EVENTUALLY.
SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER TO START WITH A CLEAN SLATE THAN LIKE, SAY, IF THE CONSTRAINTS ON THE OTHER LAND ARE NOT A PROBLEM, WE COULD PROBABLY DO MORE WITH IT.
RIGHT. AND THIS IS SOMETHING IF YOU WANT TO EVEN ENTERTAIN IT, WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION SO THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE A DECISIONS MADE.
WE JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF YOU EVEN WANT US TO CONSIDER IT.
SO THE OTHER POTENTIAL PIECE YOU SAID IT DID HAVE ACCESSIBILITY.
RIGHT. NO MATTER WHERE IT COMES AROUND.
SO. IN THEORY, WE'RE BEING HYPOTHETICAL HERE.
WE COULD ARGUE THAT YOU COULD HAVE A PIECE OF LAND THAT COULD GIVE US THE SOUTHSIDE PARK THAT WE WANT. PLUS, YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT ONCE WE TOOK SOME THINGS AWAY, COULD THEN TURN INTO A BETTER VERSION OF WHAT WE HAVE FOR A DOG PARK IN THEORY.
SO WHAT I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOU SAYING IS THIS NEW POTENTIAL SITE COULD BE DEVELOPED FOR A SOUTHSIDE PARK. CORRECT.
AND YOU COULD ALSO REDEVELOP BECAUSE SPEAKERS] THE 5.3 THAT WE HAVE AS OURS AS IT IS.
CORRECT. SO WE COULD DO WHATEVER WE KIND OF WANT, NOT DO WHATEVER WE WANT WITH IT WITH.
BUT LIKE IN THEORY, WE COULD TURN THAT INTO SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD.
DOG OWNERS WOULD APPRECIATE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY NICE CHUNK OF LAND.
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AND YOU COULD CONSIDER SELLING THE MUNICIPAL POOL PROPERTY TO OFFSET THE COST SPEAKERS] PURCHASING A NEW ONE. IN THEORY.DO YOU WANT TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND DISCUSS IT? I'M JUST KIDDING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. I WAS LIKE, I'M HUNGRY WE GOT TO [LAUGHTER]. NOW HERE'S WAIT HOLD ON I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE OTHER POTENTIAL.
YOU SAID IT'S CLEAR WE CAN PROBABLY DO MORE WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY MANEUVER THINGS AROUND.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY BULL DOZING.
SO WE WOULD LOOK AT UTILIZING PARK LAND DEDICATION FEES.
TO ME, THAT'S WHY YOU GOT THEM.
I MEAN, WHEN I BUY LAND, I LOOK AT WHAT'S GOOD, WHAT'S BAD WITH THE OTHER ONE IS AND YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING. SO IT SEEMS TO ME IF YOU WALK THE LAND, IT LOOKS MUCH BETTER THAN COMING HERE AND CLEANING UP EVERYTHING, MAKING IT WORK.
IT'D BE BETTER TO GET A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE TRACKS AND GET A BETTER ACCESSIBILITY. AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT.
I MEAN, IT'S WHAT WE'D BE PUTTING IN THE PARK THAT WOULD BE WE'D SAVE MONEY IN MY MIND, JUST GOING SOMEWHERE NEW AND STARTING OVER.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. AND WE COULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER IF WE DO GO OUT FOR BOND IT BEING OFFSET WITH, I MEAN, CONSIDERING THE NUMBER, WE WOULD BE BONDING OUT AGAIN.
THIS NUMBER NOT TO EXCEED IS REALLY SMALL.
SO THEN YOU NEED FROM US A RECOMMENDATION ON THE POTENTIAL.
SO IF YOUR THOUGHT IS, I MEAN, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, I WOULD JUST LIKE DIRECTION ON THAT.
AND YOU COULD DO IT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION OR IF I WOULD PREFER IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
SO THEN WAIT, I HAVE AN OPINION, BUT WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? I WANT TO HEAR YOUR OPININON.
IF IT'S CLEAR AND YOU HAVE ACCESSIBILITY SIDEWALK WISE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT CLEARLY THEY SAID.
ALSO LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BIGGER DOG PARK.
YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO IS THAT THE MOTION WE WANT TO MAKE? DO YOU MAKE THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO LOOK AT THE NEW LAND AND ALSO EXPAND THE CURRENT DOG PARK POSSIBILITY.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PURSUE THE NEW ALTERNATIVE SITE FOR A SOUTHSIDE PARK. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED SAME SIGN. IS THAT WHAT YOU NEED, MEGAN? IT IS. SO WE'RE APPROVING A HYPOTHETICAL THAT CAN.
SO IN, YOU'RE JUST FOR THE SAKE HERE OF THE PROCESS.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS JUST US AN ADVISORY BOARD, BUT.
COUNCIL WILL OBVIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS.
HAS IT BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THEM YET? IT HAS NOT, NOT NECESSARILY ALL THESE COMPONENTS.
I WILL SAY THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER DID BRING UP REDEVELOPING KIBER AND ANDERSON.
AND SO THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US WILL ALLOW US TO REPORT BACK.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT RIGHT. WE'RE GETTING WE'LL TAKE THAT TO COUNCIL.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A USE FOR THAT LAND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S FINE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A USE FOR THE LAND, SELLING IT TO GET SOME MORE MONEY MAY NOT BE THE BEST. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST AGAIN.
IT'S AN OPTION. LET'S THINK ABOUT ALL THE OPTIONS.
SAY, YOU KNOW, DO WE SAVE IT FOR FUTURE FACILITY? OR MAYBE THAT BECOMES WHATEVER? YEAH, YEAH. SO DO YOU THINK THAT COUNCIL WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE SOUTHSIDE NEEDS A NEW PARK? ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, CECIL HAS MENTIONED THAT NUMEROUS TIMES.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONCERN THERE.
I MEAN, MAYBE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LOCATION, BUT WE JUST NEED TO PRESENT ALL THE INFORMATION. SO I'LL TELL YOU WHERE THE CURRENT DOG PARK IS MY PERSONAL VISION WOULD BE MOVE THAT BUILDING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND REDEVELOP THAT FIVE
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ACRES. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT I'M GOING TO SAY, WELL, I NEED A MILLION DOLLARS OR MIC]. RIGHT. OK, WELL, IT SEEMS TO ME THIS BOARD AGREE. THE SOUTHSIDE IS A PRIORITY WITH THE CIP PART AND THE SOUTHSIDE CONSIDERED ALTERNATIVE LOCATION, SO WE SEEM TO BE ALL IN THE SAME DIRECTION ON THAT.SO IF YOU'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10 DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION CONTRACTING
[10. Discussion and possible action contracting Kimley-Horn to develop a park standards manual.]
KIMLEY-HORN TO DEVELOP A PARK STANDARDS MANUAL.RIGHT. SO THIS GOES BACK TO WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE PARK STANDARDS MANUAL AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT WE HAD BEGUN CONVERSATIONS.
WE INFORMED YOU GUYS AT THE LAST PARKS BOARD MEETING THAT WE WERE TALKING WITH KIMLEY-HORN HOW TO DEVELOP THAT.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED US A PROPOSAL WHICH IS ENCLOSED IN YOUR PACKET.
GOING BACK TO WHAT IS BUDGETED FOR ABLC.
ABLC BUDGETED FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE DESIGN OF FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN.
THE PROPOSAL FOR FREEDOM DESIGN CAME IN LOWER THAN THAT SPECIFIED AMOUNT.
WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO ABLC NEXT MONDAY TO CONSIDER APPROVAL SO WE CAN KEEP THAT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.
AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS, RATHER THAN THOSE FUNDS GO BACK TO FUND BALANCE OR BE UTILIZED FOR SOMETHING ELSE IS KEEP OUR MOMENTUM WITH OUR PARK DEVELOPMENT AND STANDARDS GOING. SO WE'VE ALREADY ADOPTED WHAT OUR MINIMUM PARK STANDARD SHOULD BE.
BUT THE DESIGN ELEMENT OF THAT IS NOT SPECIFIED.
SO WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND THEY WANT TO BUILD A PARK WITHIN A DEVELOPMENT AND THEY PRESENT US WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SUBSTANDARD, WE HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW THEM THIS IS THE STANDARD. AND HERE'S WHY.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO DEVELOP BASICALLY A PARK STANDARD MANUAL BASED OFF OF OUR MINIMUM PARK STANDARDS THAT HELP SHOWS THEM EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.
WHEN YOU CEMENT A PARK BENCH, THIS IS A PARK BENCH THAT WE WANT.
THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE CEMENTED.
AND HERE'S YOUR ADA ACCESSIBILITY SEATING RIGHT OFF TO THE SIDE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WANTING TO CONSIDER.
WHILE KIMLEY-HORN HAS PROVIDED A PROPOSAL, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THAT AMOUNT.
WE CAN SCALE THAT DOWN TO HOWEVER WE'D LIKE.
IT'S REALLY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF AMENITIES AND DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT INTO THIS MANUAL, AND AS WE BUILD, THIS MANUAL WILL GROW.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE'LL TAKE LAKESIDE PARK AND UTILIZE THE ELEMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED TO PLUG INTO THIS MANUAL.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
WHEN WE GO TO REDEVELOP FENCING AT OUR BALL FIELDS AND WE SAY, HEY, WE WANT THIS DESIGN STANDARD OR SPECIFICATION.
EVERY TIME IT'S NEW, WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO THIS MANUAL SO THEY WILL GET US GOING.
BUT THEN THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE US THE TEMPLATE SO THAT WE CAN UPDATE IT AND INCREASE OUR STANDARDS AS WE GO ON AND AS EACH OF US MOVE ON, RETIRE, WHAT HAVE YOU.
PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING TO START FROM SCRATCH.
THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN OUR PARKS, WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE, AND IT JUST PROVIDES FOR SOME CONTINUITY AROUND OUR PARK SYSTEM.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IN LAKESIDE PARK, WE HAVE 10 FOOT CONCRETE SIDEWALKS.
THAT IS GOING TO BE THE NEW STANDARD IN CITY PARKS.
FOR PRIMARY LOOP TRAILS SECONDARY WOULD BE SIX AND THEN YOUR SIDEWALKS ON STREETS AND AROUND PARK PLAYGROUNDS ARE FOUR FOOT.
IN THE PAST SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD DONE LIKE THIS, SOME OTHER PARK STUDIES AND THINGS THAT EVEN OUR LDC, WE WERE HANDED A DOCUMENT THAT HAD FLAWS IN IT.
THIS ONE, WE OR YOU OR STAFF HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT MAYBE IT FITS IN VIRGINIA BEACH, BUT IT DOESN'T FIT IN ANGLETON.
ABSOLUTELY. AND SO THIS WILL BE A LIVING WORKING DOCUMENT.
SO IF WE FIND, HEY, WE INSTALLED THIS, THIS WAS OUR PARK STANDARD AND HERE'S SOME FLACK WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE CAN REVISE THAT.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A WORKABLE DOCUMENT.
WE'VE COMMUNICATED WITH KIMLEY-HORN AS IT RELATES TO THIS DOCUMENT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE THEY GIVE US THE TOOLS AND LAYOUT THE FOUNDATION, WE CAN PICK IT UP FROM THERE ON OUT AND REVISE IT AS NEEDED ADD TO IT.
AND COST WISE, IS MOSTLY COVERED ALREADY FROM WHAT YOU DESCRIBED.
ABSOLUTELY. SO TO ME, THE DOLLARS ARE BUDGETED.
WE CAN BRING THE DOLLAR AMOUNT DOWN BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PARK STANDARDS THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE. AND SO WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO START OFF WITH ARE THE ACTUAL MINIMUM PARK STANDARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PARK LAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE.
IF WE CAN ADD A COUPLE MORE WITHIN THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT,
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BUT IF NOT, WE WILL WORK WITHIN THE PARAMETER.[INAUDIBLE] DO IS HAVE A CONVINCING ARGUMENT FOR ABLC ON WHY THERE'S ONE PERSON WHO WOULD DEFINITELY SHOW QUESTION.
BUT THESE THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T DO THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND GET NOBODY CAN ANYWAY.
SO DEVELOPERS NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT BECAUSE OTHERWISE, I MEAN, IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR THEM AS WELL AS IT IS FOR STAFF.
RIGHT. CORRECT. WELL, THAT'S TO ME IS MORE IMPORTANT.
MY PREFERENCE FOR DEVELOPERS IS FEE IN LIEU OF, BUT NOT A SOMETHING.
BUT IF THEY DO SOMETHING, THEY NEED TO FOLLOW OUR POLICIES.
BUT TO ME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MISSING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SCRIMP.
IF YOU THINK THERE'S SOME MORE WE NEED AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO SPEND THIS AMOUNT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING SALES TAX REVENUES COMING UP FOR THE ABLC.
YES THEY ARE. SO THERE THIS IS NOT TO ME, IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD.
ABSOLUTELY. AND I WILL SAY THAT TO CHRISTINA MALIK, WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH ME ON THIS PROJECT, DOES INTEND TO BE AT THE ABLC MEETING SO THAT SHE CAN PRESENT TO THEM AND TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH.
I TOLD HER SHE WASN'T NEEDED AT TODAY'S MEETING, BUT I AM LOOKING FOR MOTION ON THIS ITEM SO THAT I COULD TAKE THAT SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM TO ABLC NEXT MONDAY.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE.
[LAUGHTER] I MOVE THAT WE DO BUDGET FOR THE STUDY THAT WE CONTRACT KIMLEY-HORN TO DEVELOP ANGLETON'S DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL.
YES, WELL WALTER'S GOOD ABOUT PUTTING THE EXACT WORD YOU NEED TO SAY YES HE IS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO WE'RE GOOD. SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE KIMLEY-HORN POLICIES STANDARDS FOR THE PARKS.
ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE, OPPOSE SAME SIGN.
[11. Discussion and possible action on closing Chenango between County parking lot access and egress allowing for Veterans Park expansion.]
GREAT. AND FINAL AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON CLOSING CHENANGO BETWEEN COUNTY PARKING LOT ACCESS AND EGRESS ALLOWING FOR VETERANS PARK EXPANSION.YES. SO THIS HAS BEEN AN ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR SENIOR ANGLETON LEADERSHIP TEAM FOR DISCUSSION TO HELP EXPAND THE PARK.
I WILL ASK CHRIS JUST TO HELP ME OUT.
I WILL SHOW YOU THE RENDERING THAT WE HAVE HERE.
SO WHILE WE HAVE NOT, LET ME GET THERE.
THIS IS FOR PERMANENT CLOSURE.
THIS WOULD BE FOR PERMANENT CLOSURE.
SO WITH THE COUNTY CLOSING THE NORTHERN PART OF NIGHT AT CONCERTS IN THE PARK AND WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO ENHANCE THE PARK.
AND SO THE CONVERSATION WAS CLOSURE OF THE ROAD BETWEEN THE SOUTHERN SOUTHWEST EXIT TO THE PARKING LOT UP PAST THE ALLEY TO THE NORTHWEST, EXIT OF THE PARKING LOT, WHICH STILL ALLOW ACCESS BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OUT OF THE PARKING LOT, AND THEN THE ALLEY WOULD BE CLOSED.
BUT THEY HAVE ACCESS OUT THE WEST SIDE TO 288 BRAVO.
AND SO I THINK IT WOULD ENHANCE THE PARK.
IT GIVES YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT YOU CAN DO.
REALLY WE KIND OF USE IT ANYWAYS.
I DON'T OR REPAIR OR SOMETHING ELSE.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NOT GOING UP THAT ROAD ANYMORE.
AND I THINK AS LONG AS DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY, AS LONG AS WE CAN LEAVE THAT OPEN ON THE WEST SIDE, EITHER ENTER OR EXIT FROM THE SOUTH OR NORTH DOESN'T REALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.
AND SO REALLY, IT'S THIS HIGHLIGHTED AREA, SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK, AS CHRIS HAS
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MENTIONED REGARDING THE BENEFITS TO THE PARK WITH THAT HIGHLIGHTED PORTION, BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE ALL OF MAGNOLIA, IT WOULD JUST BE WHERE YOUR ENTRANCE AND EXIT OF THE COUNTY PARKING LOT WOULD BE.IF YOU CAN ENVISION I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD GOOGLE MAP.
I'M TRYING TO ENVISION HOW THAT LAYS OUT, I MEAN, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THE COUNTY'S WANTING TO RESERVE.
SO I THINK THE EXIT AND ENTRANCE OF THE COUNTY PARKING LOT IS HERE.
SPEAKERS]. OK, SO THAT GOOGLE MAP IS PRIOR TO THE NEW PARKING LOT AND OK, GOT IT THANK YOU. IT'S GOT THE SCHOOL ON IT.
SO THAT'S YEAH. YEAH, THE OLD SCHOOL.
[INAUDIBLE] OH, THAT WAS A SCHOOL AT ONE TIME, WASN'T IT? WAS THAT A SCHOOL AT ONE TIME? I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE ROAD.
SO JUST THE PORTIONS IN BETWEEN.
RIGHT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THAT HIGHLIGHTED ORANGE SPOT WOULD THEN BE PART OF THE PARK.
RIGHT. TO VETERANS PARK FOR THE COURTHOUSE, ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE WERE HEADING OVER THERE TO HAVE LUNCH. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST PART OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TOURISM, ALL OF THE ABOVE.
SINCE THE PROPERTY NORTH OF THERE IS GOING TO BE CLOSED OFF.
BASICALLY, CHENANGO IS CLOSED TO DO ANOTHER ALMOST A BLOCK DOESN'T SEEM ILLOGICAL.
OR YOU NEED AN A MOTION FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION OR YES, WE WOULD.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THEIR SUGGESTION TO CLOSE CHENANGO STREET.
OK, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL, SECOND IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIDE. AND MEGAN, I WANT TO MAKE AN OBSERVATION.
YOU SAID YOU'D GIVE US TWO HOURS FOR THIS MEETING, AND IF IT WASN'T FOR TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT ON.
NEXT MEETING IS AN HOUR AND A HALF AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE AN HOUR.
THE CLOSING OF CHENANGO STREET.
I DON'T THINK IT'S. IS IT ALL OF CHENANGO OR IS IT JUST THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION? JUST WHERE YOU HAVE IT HIGHLIGHTED. OK. I'M SORRY.
CHENANGO BETWEEN, SOUTH AND NORTH COUNTY EXITS. OK, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. IT'D BE NICE IF WE HAD A NEWER [INAUDIBLE].
YES. OTHER PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT CLOSURE IS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.