Oct 12, 2021 City Council

SO THIS IS A COMMUNITY OUTREACH GRANT PROGRAM THROUGH THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PURSUE.

YEP.

IT IS THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO PROVIDE OUTDOOR EDUCATION, NATURE EDUCATION AND NATURE PROGRAMING FOR JUST AT OUR OUTREACH POPULATIONS, EITHER BASED OFF MINORITIES OR LOW INCOME QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED HERE LOCALLY.

SO THIS WOULD ALLOW US OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE EQUIPMENT AND PROVIDE SUPPLIES, AS WELL AS RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO OFFER A LARGE NUMBER OF OUTDOOR PROGRAMING, NATURE PROGRAMING, THINGS LIKE THAT JUST TO GREATLY ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT WITHIN THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY FOR VARIOUS POPULATIONS AT EITHER LOW OR NO COST.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KYLE? WAS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM PARK'S BOARD OR HOW DID THIS GRANT COME ABOUT? SO IT'S SOMETHING WE GET DISABILITY BASED OFF OF JUST WHAT'S CURRENTLY AVAILABLE THROUGH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, AND WE ARE IDENTIFIED AS WHAT WE'RE ELIGIBLE TO PURSUE.

AND IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, THEN WE DON'T PARTICIPATE.

SO IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, IT JUST THIS ALLOWS US TO FOR THE THE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO PROCURE SUPPLIES AND SOME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE LIKELY WILL STILL PARTICIPATE IN OUTDOOR PROGRAMING AND THINGS LIKE THAT JUST AS PART OF OUR MISSION.

BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT IT WOULD JUST BE GREAT.

WE'D REDUCE [INAUDIBLE] WE'D HAVE TO FIND ALTERNATIVE FUNDING OR JUST A FUTURE BUDGETING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE ACTIVITIES.

ARE ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT I THINK YOU'VE LISTED ABOVE OR THAT WE CURRENTLY DO WOULD FIT UNDER THIS? YEAH.

SO PART OF THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE GRANT IS RELATIONSHIP TO TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE PROGRAMING SERVICES OR RELATIONSHIPS WITH STAFF.

SO SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE'RE CURRENTLY ALREADY OFFERING OR HAVE ALREADY OFFERED, SUCH AS THE [INAUDIBLE] EDUCATION PROGRAM, IS PART OF A TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE PROGRAM, WHICH HELPS US QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT FUNDS.

IN ADDITION, WE'VE HAD STAFF CERTIFIED AS ARCHERY INSTRUCTORS, WHICH IS DONE THROUGH TEXAS PARKS WILDLIFE AS WELL, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP AS WELL WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILD LIFE'S STAFF AND UTILIZING THEIR LOCATIONS FOR A FEW OF PROGRAMS WHERE WE MAY TRAVEL TO.

SO THAT HELPS US QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT, AS WELL AS STRENGTHENS OUR STRENGTHENS, OUR CASE FOR THE FUNDS AS WELL.

AND WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF RECEIVING THE GRANT, IS IT POSITIVE? I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CASE FOR IT BASED OFF OF OUR DEMOGRAPHICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BASED OFF THE MISSION OF THE GRANT.

SO ONE OF THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR LOW INCOME IS ELIGIBILITY FOR FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WITHIN THE ANGLETON SCHOOL DISTRICT, I BELIEVE.

IS IT A RATING OF 58 PERCENT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE QUALIFY FOR.

PLUS, OUR POPULATION OF MINORITY POPULATIONS THAT ARE TYPICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES IS HIGH ENOUGH WHERE I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CASE.

SO IT'S CREATING A PROGRAM OF OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN THINGS.

A LOT OF OUTDOOR NATURE PROGRAMING HAS A LOT OF BARRIERS TO IT, WHETHER IT BE LOCAL BARRIERS AS FAR AS DISTANCE TRAVEL OR FINANCIAL INVESTMENT FOR THOSE THINGS.

AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THIS GRANT HELPS TO REDUCE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

DID THIS GO THROUGH PARKS BOARD? DID THEY EVEN TALK ABOUT THIS? IT WAS PRESENTED AS THE OR AT THE PARKS BOARD YESTERDAY.

OH, YESTERDAY, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.

SO ANOTHER QUESTION I WAS LOOKING AT BECAUSE I SAW THE PROGRAMING ACTIVITIES.

WHERE WOULD YOU PROPOSE WE COULD EVEN DO ANY OF THIS? I MEAN, SO A GOOD PORTION OF IT.

SO THIS GRANT WOULD BE AT THE EARLIEST IN MARCH, AND THIS WOULD BE FOR AN 18 MONTH PERIOD.

SO A GOOD PORTION OF THAT, WHAT COULD HAPPEN LOCALLY WOULD BE UTILIZING LAKESIDE

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PARK ONCE IT'S COMPLETED.

IN ADDITION TO JUST UTILIZING THE RECREATION CENTER.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME PADDLING INSTRUCTIONAL ACTIVITIES DO TAKE PLACE IN POOLS.

IT'S USUALLY A BETTER INSTRUCTIONAL PLACE THAN THE ACTUAL LAKE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT MORE SAFETY IN THE POOLS AND EVEN ITEMS LIKE ARCHERY.

THOSE CAN BE DONE INDOORS AND GYMNASIUM OR JUST OPEN FIELD.

WE DON'T INTEND AT THIS POINT TO PURSUE COMPOUND BOWS, SO WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH SPACE.

SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO LOCALLY WITHIN OUR PARKS.

BUT WE CAN ALSO SCHEDULE NOT ONLY RELYING ON THE COMPLETION OF THE LAKESIDE PARK, BUT OTHER PARK SPACES AS WELL, BECAUSE THE DIVERSITY OF THE ACTIVITIES WE HAVE CAN TAKE PLACE AT DIFFERENT VENUES.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. KYLE? MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO TWO ONE ONE ZERO ONE TWO DASH ZERO ONE ONE AUTHORIZING OH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SORRY.

WE'RE READY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MR. BOOTH, I'M SO EXCITED BECAUSE THE ASTROS WON.

OK? THAT'S MY EXCUSE TONIGHT.

OK, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIDE.

OK, NOW WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS ANYBODY WANTED TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 11 NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD SOME DISCUSSION? IT'S GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, THREE TIMES I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTIONED BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIDE.

WE'RE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING NOW WERE ON POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM.

GO AHEAD JOHN.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO TWO ONE ONE ZERO ONE TWO DASH ZERO ONE ONE AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF A TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANT COMMUNITY OUTDOOR OUTREACH PROGRAM APPLICATION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MAYOR OR DESIGNEE TO ACT AS THE CITY'S EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND AUTHORIZE REPRESENTATIVE IN ALL MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMUNITY OUTDOOR OUTREACH PROGRAM GRANT.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND I JUST I THINK IT'S A GREAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE DON'T SPEND THE MONEY OUTSIDE OF OUR COFFERS AND UNLESS WE GET THIS GRANT.

BUT I THINK THE PROGRAMING IS A GREAT IDEA AND DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD SEE EVERY DAY IN OUR PARKS.

SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD AND THEY'RE GOOD SKILLS TO LEARN TOO.

KIND OF INCORPORATE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BOY SCOUT STUFF IN IT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT.

ANYBODY ELSE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES, I DIDN'T SECOND [INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY, TRAVIS WAS THE SECOND.

MY APOLOGIES.

YOU'RE IN MY BAD EAR.

SORRY, SIR.

I JUST HAVE AN EXCUSE TONIGHT.

I'M SORRY.

SO THAT WAS THE MOTION AND THE SECOND WAS CORRECTED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ITEM NUMBER TWELVE CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR LEVYING AN ASSESSMENT AGAINST PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF ANGLETON RIVERWOOD RANCH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, ALSO KNOWN AS A PID IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE.

[12. Conduct a public hearing on the assessment role for levying an assessment against properties within the City of Angleton Riverwood Ranch Public Improvement District (PID) Improvement Area #1.]

THIS IS THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE YOU CAN ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.

ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE RIVERWOOD RANCH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE.

THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY OTHER THAN IF THERE ARE OBJECTIONS.

YOU ARE REQUIRED UNDER STATE LAW TO RULE ON THOSE OBJECTIONS AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

SO NOW WE NEED TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WHO WAS THAT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MOTION BY TOWNSEND SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT [INAUDIBLE] ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE ASSESSMENT ROLE OF LEVYING AN ASSESSMENT AGAINST PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF ANGLETON RIVERWOOD RANCH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

ANYBODY PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

SECOND, CALL TO THE PODIUM.

THIRD, CALL TO THE PODIUM, TO THE PODIUM COUNCIL.

MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN.

NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13 AS WE GET BACK TO THE TOP OF MY AGENDA.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO ZERO TWO ONE ONE ZERO

[13. Discuss and possible action on an Ordinance No. 20211012-013 approving the service and assessment plan and proposed assessment roll for the City of Angleton Riverwood Ranch Public Improvement District (PID) Improvement Area #1; providing a penalty; providing for severability; providing for repeal; and providing an effective date.]

ONE TWO DASH ZERO ONE THREE APPROVING THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND PROPOSED ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON RIVERWOOD RANCH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, ALSO KNOWN AS PID IMPROVEMENT AREA AT NUMBER ONE, PROVIDING A PENALTY, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. WALTER.

THIS IS THE ORDINANCE THAT APPROVES THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND ADOPTS THE ASSESSMENT ROLE AND THE LEVY OF THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE PROPERTIES IN RIVERWOOD RANCH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE.

THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY BY THE CITY'S PID CONSULTANT, P3 WORKS AND THE CITY'S BOND COUNCILS, AND THEY AGREE THAT THE THE PLAN IS FINANCIALLY VIABLE AND AND WORKS AND ITS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

SO I WILL SAY I DID GO VISIT RIVERWOOD RANCH LAST SUNDAY, WENT TO THE MODEL HOMES JUST WENT IN AS A NORMAL CITIZEN, NO ID WENT AFTER CHURCH SPOKE TO THE YOUNG LADY IN THERE WHO WAS JUST SHOWING THE MODEL HOMES.

AND I THINK THE THIRD OR FOURTH COMMENT OUT OF HER MOUTH WAS, I NEED TO ADVISE YOU THAT THIS IS IN A PID.

AND SO I WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT SHE MENTIONED THAT THIS WAS A PID AND SHE UNDERSTOOD IT, AND I TOLD HER I UNDERSTOOD WHAT PID WAS AS WELL.

SO JUST TO LET THE GUYS KNOW I DID GO IN WITH MY FAMILY, AND SHE DID SAY THAT THIS WAS A PID DEVELOPMENT, SO I WAS APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

OR POTENTIAL PID? LET ME REPHRASE THAT [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN DO WHAT'S WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? WALTER, WALK US THROUGH THIS, PLEASE.

THE.

SO BY APPROVING THIS TONIGHT, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? WHEN DOES WHEN DOES THE MONEY ACTUALLY FLOW? OH, GOOD QUESTION, AND I'M NOT SURE I HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS IS THAT THERE'S A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT, BUT THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY ONE FOR THIS BECAUSE THERE IS A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT THAT ESTABLISHES THE HOW THE ASSESSMENT GETS DISTRIBUTED.

BASICALLY, THERE'S NOTICE GIVEN TO THE COUNTY THAT SAYS THAT THIS PID HAS BEEN PASSED TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND THAT THEY NEED TO ADD THE ASSESSMENT AS PART OF THE TAX ROLL.

IT'S NOT A TAX.

IT'S AN ASSESSMENT AGAINST THE PROPERTIES IN PID IMPROVEMENT IN THIS IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN WHEN THE TAX ROLL, THE TAX BILL GOES OUT, THE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY PAY THE TAX BILL AND THE MONEY FOR THE ASSESSMENT GOES.

IS PART OF PART OF THE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE COUNTY IS THAT THE MONEY GETS SENT TO THE DEVELOPER NOW, WHETHER THAT HAPPENS THROUGH THE CITY OR GOES DIRECTLY FROM THE COUNTY.

THAT DETAIL, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS, THE REST OF THE WAY.

AND THEN THAT ASSESSMENT IS THERE UNTIL THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES PAY OFF THEIR ASSESSMENTS.

AND THERE'S NO LIMITATION ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN PAY AGAINST YOUR ASSESSMENT.

YOU COULD PAY IT OFF ALL AT ONCE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT OTHERWISE IT GETS PAID OFF OVER THE TERM OF THE OF THE PID.

SO IT IT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY.

SAY YOU BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND YOU SELL IT, YOU BUY A HOUSE, YOU SELL TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

IF THE ASSESSMENT HASN'T BEEN PAID, THE ASSESSMENT IS THEN PICKED UP BY THE NEXT PROPERTY OWNER.

MAYOR, WE HAVE OUR PID CONSULTANT.

WHAT'S THAT? WE HAVE OUR PID CONSULTANT.

OK, THANK YOU.

I GUESS MY MY QUESTION WHERE I'M GOING TO IS, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER IN OUR LITTLE PIT CLASS, WE HAD THE THERE WERE TWO TYPES OF PIDS, THE ONES THAT ARE BACKED BY THE BOND THAT THE CITY ISSUES AND THEN THE ONE THAT IS BASICALLY THE DEVELOPER.

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AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE WE GO HERE WHAT WHAT IS THE STEP? WHAT BOND ARE WE GOING FOR? ARE WE GOING TO BACK THESE? OR ARE THEY GOING TO BACK THEM? BECAUSE THAT REALLY WEIGHS INTO MY DISCUSSION ON THIS.

SO FIRST OFF, I THINK JOHN WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT OR JOE [INAUDIBLE] AT HILLTOP.

BUT LET ME JUST REMIND YOU THAT THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE SAP, THE TAX ROLL, EVERYTHING WAS ALREADY APPROVED LAST YEAR.

BUT THEN WHEN IT WENT THROUGH THE BOND COMPANIES, THEY REALIZED THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE.

SO IT'S BEEN REWORKED SO THAT HOPEFULLY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL APPROVE IT AND WON'T BE A PROBLEM.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE BOND ISSUANCE ITSELF, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.

JOHN SNYDER MIGHT KNOW.

JOHN ARE YOU ON, CAN YOU ALLOW HIM IN? SO THIS HAD TO BE REWORKED.

WHAT WAS THE CHANGE? YOU KNOW, I'M NOT YOUR BOND PERSON, BUT HILLTOP AND YOUR BOND COUNCIL AND THEN THE NEW BOND.

WHO'S THE NEW THE NEW BOND PERSON, MICHAEL DINO? YEAH.

WELL, WE'RE GETTING MR. SNYDER BACK ON LINE MIGHT AS WELL GET THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

THE SAP THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND THE ACTUAL ASSESSMENT HAD TO BE REWORKED.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND JOHN'S GOING TO KNOW MORE THAN ME BECAUSE HE DRAFTED THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT.

BUT BASICALLY, WE WERE LACKING A LOT OF EXHIBITS DESIGNATING WHERE THE EXACT LINES ARE GOING TO BE, AND THEY WANT TO SEE THAT WITHIN THE PLANS.

AND THEN WE HAD TO REWORK SOME OF THE ECONOMICS ON IT BECAUSE THINGS LIKE POWER YOU CAN'T TECHNICALLY PUT IN BECAUSE IT'S NOT THROUGH THE CITY.

SO WE HAD TO TAKE THAT OUT.

SO SOME OF THE ECONOMICS AND EXHIBITS WERE REWORKED, SO THE FIVE POINT TWO MILLION IS JUST YOUR COST.

SO THAT'S THE TOTAL COST FOR ALL THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED TO BE APPROVED, THEN APPEARED, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WATER SEWER DRAINAGE, RIGHT? MR. JOHN WRIGHT ONLINE.

YES, SIR, CAN YOU CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.

MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD PART OF THAT CONVERSATION WITH MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WAS REWORKED IN THE BOND PACKAGE.

SO GREAT.

SO THE ORIGINAL TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THE ORIGINAL SAP, I THINK, WAS MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE PAGES LONG.

THE NEW SAP IS SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

IT'S PROBABLY 40 PAGES.

SO THERE'S THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL AND THERE'S THERE'S THINGS THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE REQUIRES TO BE IN THERE THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED.

SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES ARE HOMEBUYER DISCLOSURES.

THERE'S VERY PARTICULAR LANGUAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE.

THE ASSESSMENT PER LOT HAS TO BE KNOWN.

IT CAN'T BE.

IT CAN'T BE FLUCTUATING.

SO REALLY, WE JUST MADE MADE THE DOCUMENT SO THAT IT FULLY COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW, AND WE KNOW THAT IT WILL GET THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.

THERE WAS ALSO AN EARLIER QUESTION I THINK WALTER DID A GOOD JOB ANSWERING IT IN TERMS OF WHEN THE MONEY STARTS FLOWING.

IF IF YOU ALL TAKE ACTION TO IMPROVE THIS SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN TONIGHT, THE ASSESSMENTS ARE TO BE DONE ON THE PROPERTY AND STARTING IN JANUARY OF 2023.

SO ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW, THE INSTALLMENTS WILL START BEING PAID.

IF NO BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED, THAT MONEY WILL FLOW BACK TO THE DEVELOPER PURSUANT TO THE TERMS OF THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.

RIGHT NOW, THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING THAT THAT THE CITY ISSUE PID BONDS, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THOSE INSTALLMENTS WILL GO TO PAY THE THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE BONDS.

THE PID BONDS WOULD BE SOLELY BACKED BY THE ASSESSMENT, SO THE THE FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY WOULD NOT BE PLEDGED.

IT WOULD SOLELY BE THE INSTALLMENTS WOULD BE THE SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THE FOR THE BONDS IF ISSUED.

ASSUMING THAT IT DEVELOPS RIGHT IN THE EVENT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT STOPS OR DOES NOT FINISH AND WE ISSUE THE BOND THEN WHO'S ON THE HOOK FOR IT? THE LANDOWNERS ON THE HOOK.

SO THE WAY THAT THE BONDS ARE STRUCTURED AND THIS WILL GET INTO WITH UNDERWRITING AND WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR, BUT TYPICALLY THEY HAVE A THREE TO ONE VALUE TO LIEN RATIO.

SO THEY'LL ACTUALLY THE CITY WILL GO OUT, HIRE AN APPRAISER TO USE SIMPLE MATH.

IF THE APPRAISAL CAME IN AND THE APPRAISAL IS DONE, AS IS WITH THE VALUE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE BOND.

SO IT'S MONEY THAT WE KNOW IS AVAILABLE OR HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT.

AND SO THEY'LL THEY'LL SEND THE THE LOTS ARE WORTH $15 MILLION WITHOUT THE VERTICAL

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IMPROVEMENTS.

IF YOU DIVIDE BY THREE, THAT WOULD SUPPORT $5 MILLION OF BOND.

AND SO IF THE DEBT SERVICE ON $5 MILLION OF BONDS IN THIS CASE WOULD BE JUST OVER $5 MILLION, THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST IS ABOUT $300000 A YEAR.

SO YOU HAVE AN APPRAISAL FOR $50 MILLION.

AND EFFECTIVELY, THE THE RISK THAT THE BONDHOLDERS WOULD BE TAKING IS IS SOMEBODY GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM $15 MILLION OF PROPERTY OVER A $300000 ANNUAL INSTALLMENT? AND THAT'S THAT'S THE REAL SECURITY FOR THE BONDS.

WITHIN THE NEXT DEVELOPER THAT WOULD COME IN TO TRY TO BUY, THAT WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME THAT OR GET GETS IT FREE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'D BE THE SAME THING AS IF THEY DIDN'T PAY PROPERTY TAXES.

WELL, THEY WOULD.

IT WOULD GO.

SO IF THEY DIDN'T PAY THE ASSESSMENTS, THEN YOU GO THROUGH THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS, THE DEBT, THE THE ASSESSMENTS DON'T ACCELERATE.

SO WHOEVER BUYS THE PROPERTY WOULD BE BUYING IT SUBJECT TO THE REMAINING ASSESSMENTS.

AND WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THE BOND ISSUANCE? YOU KNOW, BY 2023 OR WE'RE TALKING 2023, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING IN AND EITHER FIRST OR SECOND QUARTER OF 2022.

THEY HAD TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF OF ROOFTOPS BEFORE THEY WERE ELIGIBLE TO ISSUE BONDS.

AND I THINK THEY'RE THINKING THEY'LL REACH THAT SOMETIME FIRST QUARTER TO EARLY SECOND QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SNYDER OR FOR ANYBODY AT THE TABLE? SO MY UNDERSTANDING THE PART OF THIS ACTION HERE IS TO REPEAL THE PREVIOUSLY PASSED ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT HAD SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED IN IT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO WHEN YOU ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, THE NEW ORDINANCE WITH THE NEW SAP, THEN YES, IT HAS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT IT REPEALS WHAT YOU APPROVED LAST YEAR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE ACTION POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM OUR AUDIENCE PRESENT ITEM NUMBER 13.

MAYOR I MOVE WE APPROVE AN ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO ZERO TWO ZERO ONE TWO ZERO EIGHT ZERO ONE EIGHT AND IMPROVING AND ADOPTING THE PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND PROPOSED ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON RIVERWOOD RANCH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT RAPID IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE, SUBJECT TO ANY REVISIONS BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

I'LL SECOND IT.

A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

THAT IS FOUR TO TWO.

MOTION CARRIES.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER 14, SCROLLING TO THE TOP OF MY PAGE.

14 IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR PROPERTIES WITHIN THE

[14. Conduct a public hearing on the assessment role for properties within the City of Angleton Kiber Reserve Public Improvement District (PID).]

CITY OF ANGLETON KIBER RESERVE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, ALSO KNOWN AS A PID COUNCIL.

MAKE A MOTION OPEN PUBLIC HEARING, SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ASSESSMENT ROLE OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF ANGLETON KIBER RESERVE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

ANYBODY WANT TO COME TO THE PODIUM? GOING ONCE.

TWICE, THREE TIMES, COUNCIL.

MAKE A MOTION CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARES.

WE HAVE NOW CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, MOVING ON TO NUMBER 15 DISCUSSION AND

[15. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20211012-015 approving the service and assessment plan and proposed assessment roll for the City of Angleton Kiber Reserve Public Improvement District (PID); providing a penalty; providing for severability; providing for repeal; and providing an effective date.]

POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO ZERO TWO ONE ONE ZERO ONE TWO DASH ZERO ONE FIVE APPROVING THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND PROPOSED ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE CITY OF

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ANGLETON KIBER RESERVE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, ALSO KNOWN AS PID, PROVIDING A PENALTY, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. WALTER.

THIS IS THE TO ACT ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND PROPOSED ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE KIBER RESERVE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

SAME SAME THING AS THE LAST ONE.

IT HAS BEEN VETTED THROUGH P3 WORKS AND THE CITY'S BOND COUNCILS.

I BELIEVE THIS IS A CASH FLOW RATHER THAN A BOND PID.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, NOW THAT I KNOW THAT JOHN IS ON THE LINE, JOHN CAN ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU.

WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

MR. JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR THIS ON ITEM NUMBER 14? NO, SIR.

OTHER THAN IT IS A CASH FLOW PID, SO THIS ONE WOULD BE PAID PURSUANT TO THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.

SO RATHER THAN SECURING BONDS, IT WITH THE MONEY WOULD SIMPLY FLOW BACK TO THE DEVELOPER ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR JOHN.

IF YOU'RE STILL ON THE LINE, I'M LOOKING AT THE THE INTEREST RATE FOR BOTH THIS ONE AND THE ONE PRIOR TO THIS OF ABOUT FOUR PERCENT WHERE YOU PUT AN ESTIMATE IN THERE.

BUT WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THAT BASED OFF OF SIZE OR.

SO RIVERWOOD, WE'RE EXPECTING THE DEVELOPER TO BE REQUESTING THE BOND.

SO STATE LAW.

SO ONCE IF BONDS ARE ISSUED, THEN THE THE INTEREST RATE ON THE ASSESSMENTS WILL EQUAL THE INTEREST RATE ON THE BONDS.

RIGHT NOW, THAT'S PROBABLY IN THE FOUR PERCENT RANGE.

IT MIGHT EVEN BE A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT LESS [INAUDIBLE].

SOME OF THE DEALS WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND A HALF AND FOUR PERCENT ON A REIMBURSEMENT CASH FLOW PID, RIGHT? STATE LAW CAPS YOU AT.

YOU CAN BE TWO PERCENT ABOVE AN INDEX, AND THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN INDEXES THAT APPLY.

AND SO WE'RE WITHIN THAT.

WE'RE WITHIN THAT CAP.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE INDEXES.

LAST WEEK, IT WAS AT FOUR POINT ONE FIVE.

SO WE'RE YOU CAN BE.

IT'S ACTUALLY A TWO POINT ONE FIVE.

YOU CAN BE TWO PERCENT ABOVE THAT.

SO WE COULD GO UP TO FOUR POINT ONE, FIVE PERCENT.

WE'RE AT ON THIS ONE.

IT'S FOUR POINT FOUR PERCENT.

SO WE'RE WE'RE WITHIN THE THE LEGISLATIVE CAP.

WHO GETS THE INTEREST? SO THE INTEREST IS PAID TO THE DEVELOPER.

SO THE THE ASSESSMENT IS ACTUALLY YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT AS EQUALING THE PRINCIPAL.

SO IF THERE'S A IF WE'RE FUNDING TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS OF IMPROVEMENTS, THE ASSESSMENT WOULD EQUAL $10000 IF IF BONDS WERE ISSUED, WE'D ISSUED $10000 OF BONDS AND THE BONDHOLDERS WOULD RECEIVE INTEREST IN RETURN FOR THEIR INVESTMENTS.

AND SO THE INTEREST WOULD GO TO THE BONDHOLDERS IN THIS CASE ON A CASH FLOW PID.

THE DEVELOPER IS EFFECTIVELY SERVING AS AS THE BONDHOLDER IN THAT CASE, SO THEY'RE THE THEY'RE THE ONE THAT IS RECEIVING THE INTEREST ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

AND P3 GETS THE COLLECTION COST RIGHT? WHO GETS THE COLLECTION? SO FOR THE FOR THE BONDED PIDS, IT'S MORE COMPLICATED.

THERE'S DISSEMINATION AGENT TRUSTEE P3 BOND COUNSEL TYPICALLY FEELS A LITTLE BIT AND THEN ALSO THE COUNTY FOR THEIR COLLECTION COSTS ON A CASH FLOW PID.

IT'S TYPICALLY LIMITED TO P3 AND THEN THE COUNTY COLLECTION COSTS.

AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY, SOMETIMES CITY ATTORNEY WILL BUILD A LITTLE BIT.

IF WE IF THERE'S A LEGAL ISSUE THAT COMES UP THAT WE NEED THEIR TIME ON, BUT OTHERWISE THAT'S GENERALLY CORRECT.

JOHN, IF THIS DEVELOPMENT STOPS AT ANY POINT AND GETS BOUGHT BY SOMEBODY ELSE, DOES THE FIRST LANDOWNER STILL HOLD THE PID AND COLLECT FROM A NEW OWNER? SO THE NEXT ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA IS THE THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.

VERY IMPORTANT.

AND SO WHOEVER HAS THE RIGHTS OF THAT REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE THE RIGHTS TO THE REIMBURSEMENT.

SO IF THE DEVELOPER SOLD THE PROJECT, THEY CAN SELL IT AND RETAIN THE BID REIMBURSEMENTS, OR THEY CAN SELL IT AND ASSIGN THEIR REIMBURSEMENTS AS WELL.

SO IT WOULD IT WOULD DEPEND ON HOW THEY STRUCTURED THE TRANSACTION, AND I'VE SEEN IT DONE BOTH WAYS.

ALL RIGHT, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. JOHN OR FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT COUNCIL WE HAVE A POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM ON ITEM NUMBER 15.

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MAYOR I MOVE WE APPROVED THE ORDINANCE, ADOPT AN SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON KIBER RESERVE PID.

SUBJECT TO ANY FINAL REVISIONS BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

I'LL SECOND IT.

A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN, AYE.

TWO NAYS FOUR YAYS.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER 16 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

[16. Discussion and possible action Resolution No. 20211012-016 approving and authorizing the PID Reimbursement Agreement for the Kiber Reserve PID in the City of Angleton and making other provisions related to the subject.]

RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO TWO ONE ONE ZERO ONE TWO DASH ZERO ONE SIX APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE PID REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE KIBER RESERVE PID IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND MAKING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT.

MR. WALTER.

EXCUSE ME.

THIS IS THE RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH DETAILS HOW THE MONEY GETS DISTRIBUTED AFTER IT'S ASSESSED AND COLLECTED.

SO IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THAT'S IT.

COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF OR MR. JOHN.

SHOULD ONE ARISE? BEFORE YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER 16 FOR A POSSIBLE ACTION, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, JOHN, THIS IS THE SAME WHERE YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT LOOKING TO SEE.

THEY WOULD NOT BE GETTING MONEY CASH BACK UNTIL 2023 CORRECT? CORRECT.

THEY'D BE THEY'D BE GETTING MONEY BEGINNING IN JANUARY OF 23 AND IT WOULD GO FOR 30 YEARS.

BUT RATHER THAN A BONDED PID WHERE YOU GET THE MONEY KIND OF UPFRONT, THEY'D BE THEY'D BE GETTING RECOUPING THEIR EXPENSES OVER THE 30 YEAR PERIOD.

I MAKE A MOTION OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SECOND.

WAIT IS THAT IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH, WE DON'T NEED IT.

THAT'S IT.

THERE'S AN ERROR ON THE AGENDA.

SUMMARY.

YEAH, THAT'S A MISTAKE.

IT DOESN'T SAY A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IT'S JUST UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION.

JUST TO KEEP THE ITEMS TOGETHER WE PUT THEM TOGETHER.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE AN [INAUDIBLE] COMING OFF ITEM NUMBER 16.

SO JUST JUST TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE BEGINNING IN CASE SOMEBODY OBJECTS.

SO IF NO ONE OBJECTS, THEN THE STATUTE SAYS ABSENT ANY OBJECTION, YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD AND YOU'VE ALREADY MOVED FORWARD ON THE ORDINANCE.

SO JUST DON'T WANT TO CREATE CONFUSION.

OK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

MAYOR I MOVE WE APPROVED THE RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE PID REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE KIBER RESERVE PID, SUBJECT TO ANY REVISIONS BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

I'LL SECOND.

A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I DO SIR, IN THE RESOLUTION.

IT SAYS THE FIRST NO EARLIER THAN 60 DAYS AFTER THE DATE PAYMENT OF THE ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS ARE DUE AND PAYABLE TO THE CITY, OR APRIL 1ST OF EACH YEAR, WHICHEVER IS LATER.

AND THEN IT SAYS THE SECOND.

NO EARLIER THAN AUGUST 1ST OF EACH CALENDAR YEAR, WHAT WOULD BE THE WHAT IS BEST PRACTICE? I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT, JOHN.

[INAUDIBLE] YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY COMMON LANGUAGE.

SO HOW IT WORKS IS THE THE MONEY COMES IN AND IT'S EVERY COUNTY DOES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

BUT TYPICALLY WE GET A COLLECTION REPORT FROM THE COUNTY SAYING WHO'S PAID, WHO HASN'T PAID.

AND THEN THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR DISTRIBUTION GENERALLY AS EARLY AS MAYBE 15 TO 20 DAYS AFTER.

BUT THAT'S WHY WE WE TYPICALLY USE THE 60 DAYS IN CASE THERE WERE ANY DELINQUENCIES OR ANYTHING.

SOMETIMES THERE'S REPORTING DELAYS WITH THE COUNTY, AND SO 60 DAYS IN GENERAL, WE'RE CLOSE TO 100 PERCENT COLLECTED WITHIN 60 DAYS AND THE MONEY CAN BE PAID OUT AND WE'RE DONE.

IF THERE ARE FURTHER DELINQUENCIES, THEN I THINK BY SEPTEMBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR, WE WERE 100 PERCENT COLLECTED ON ALL THE BIDS WE ADMINISTERED, SO THEY'RE TYPICALLY CLEANED UP BY THAT POINT.

OF COURSE, WE'RE IN A FAIRLY GOOD ECONOMY RIGHT NOW.

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I'M ASSUMING WHEN THERE'S A GOOD RECESSION, THERE MAY BE MORE DELINQUENCIES AND WE'LL HAVE MORE ISSUES AND THAT WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP MONITORING, BUT WE FOLLOW UP WITH THAT ON A MONTHLY BASIS UNTIL WE'RE 100 PERCENT COLLECTIONS.

OK, THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, JOHN AND JOHN.

HEARING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN ,NAY.

WAS THAT ONE OR TWO? [INAUDIBLE] ACTUALLY, I'M WITH JOHN.

WHAT'S THAT? OH, I'M A NAY FROM JOHN.

THAT IS FOUR TO TWO.

FOUR YAYS TWO NAYS MOTION DOES CARRY.

ITEM NUMBER 17 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR WATER STONE

[17. Discussion and possible action on a request from Waterstone Development, LLC for a waiver of the preliminary acceptance of public improvements and public improvement acceptance by the City of Angleton.]

DEVELOPMENT LLC FOR A WAIVER OF THE PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

NUMBER 17 MS. MS. LINDSEY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT, ACCEPTANCE AND PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE WAIVER REQUEST FOR WATER STONE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS ITEM HAS BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE YOU TWICE.

SO, LIKE I SAY, THIRD TIME'S CHARM.

WE WERE WAITING ON THE RULING FOR THE PID.

NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS ON THAT, WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU FOR ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES THE ROADWAYS, WATER, WASTEWATER DRAINAGE DETENTION AND CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER TWENTY THREE NINE EIGHT.

WE'RE ASKING ALSO FOR YOU TO WAIVE THE PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE PROCESS WITH A ONE YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND, WHICH IS THE DOCUMENT I'VE PASSED OUT BEFORE YOU BECAUSE SOMETIMES TRANSPIRED SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD THIS ITEM.

WE NEED AN UPDATED BOND AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

WHY? WHY HE BEAT ME TO IT.

WHY WOULD YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL [INAUDIBLE]? WELL, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS TO ASSUME MAINTENANCE OVER THE ROADWAYS WITH YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF IT.

NOW, THIS IS, IF I'M CORRECT, MR. CHARLES, THIS IS AN HOA DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM, IT IS.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE DETENTION PONDS WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOA, NOT THE CITY.

HOWEVER, ROADWAYS, WATERWAY OR WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE ONE YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND.

IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A FAILURE, IT IS SECURED BY BOND, AND THE CITY WOULD THEN ACCEPT THAT AS OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

I'VE JUST NEVER SEEN US RECOMMEND A WAIVER ON THE PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE.

THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED ON WHY WOULD WE WAIVE THAT? WE DID THAT.

IT'S KIND OF A DUPLICATE PROCESS.

THIS IS A BIT MORE STREAMLINED, BUT WE DID PRESENT THAT TO YOU FOR GREYSTONE, AND THAT WAS APPROVED THERE.

ALSO WITH HERITAGE OAKS SECTION SEVEN.

WHAT'S THE START OF THE MAINTENANCE PERIOD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT? FROM THE TIME YOU'RE APPROVED, SO IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE TODAY? MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE WAIVER OF THE PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC YES, MA'AM, YOU CAN.

SO I THOUGHT THE CODE SAID MAINTENANCE BOND.

AND I'M HOLDING WHAT LOOKS LIKE A PERFORMANCE BOND.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

YOUR SUMMARY SAYS PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE WITH A MINIMUM ONE YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND.

THIS IS A PERFORMANCE BOND, THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY OTHER BOND FROM THE DEVELOPER? SO, YES, WE DID, WE GOT WHEN THIS WAS INITIALLY BROUGHT TO COUNCIL, I BELIEVE, BACK IN THE SPRING AND AGAIN IN THE SUMMERTIME.

YEAH, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER UNDER THIS PROVISION FOR THIS DEVELOPER AND THE REQUIREMENT IF THIS IS THE CODE TWENTY THREE NINETY EIGHT POINT NINE TWENTY THREE POINT NINETY EIGHT L REQUIRES A MAINTENANCE, BOND MAINTENANCE, BONDS AND PERFORMANCE.

BONDS ARE TWO DIFFERENT ANIMALS.

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THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THIS, JUST FYI THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.

I'M PULLING UP YOUR CODE.

TWENTY THREE, NINETY EIGHT.

I BELIEVE THE CODE DOES SAY MAINTENANCE BOND, YEAH WELL YOU CAN'T PROVE IT.

THIS IS NOT A MAINTENANCE BOND.

THEY'VE GOT TO COMPLY WITH CODE.

OK, WELL, WITH THAT, I MEAN, IT COULD BE THAT THIS ARGONAUT INSURANCE COMPANY MEANT TO ISSUE A MAINTENANCE BOND.

BUT THERE ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANIMALS IN THE WAY THAT YOU MAKE CLAIMS. SO WE JUST NEED TO GET CONFIRMATION THAT I MEAN, IT COULD BE AND THE DEVELOPERS HERE, IT COULD BE THAT THE BOND COMPANY INTENDED TO DO A MAINTENANCE BOND.

IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT, BUT THIS IS A PERFORMANCE BOND.

TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT BONDS.

WHAT APPEARS TO ME IS THIS IS A COPY OF THE PERFORMANCE BOND THAT THE CONTRACTOR SUPPLIED TO DEVELOPER WHEN THE CONTRACT WAS INITIATED TO PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT.

THAT'S THE WRONG THING.

THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO SURFACE.

THIS DOESN'T SERVE [INAUDIBLE].

CAN ANY ACTION BE TAKEN SUBJECT TO SUPPLY OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND THAT IT PASSES YOUR CITY ATTORNEYS? YEAH.

SO I MEAN, YOU CAN OSTENSIBLY APPROVE BASED ON THE PREMISE THAT THE DEVELOPER DELIVERS A MAINTENANCE BOND PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR CODE.

BUT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU GIVE A DEADLINE.

WITHIN 30 DAYS, I THINK, WILL THAT WORK.

YEAH, YOU CAN YOU CAN IMPROVE THIS WITH THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL BEING THAT A MAINTENANCE BOND IS PROVIDED WITHIN 30 DAYS AND THAT THE MAINTENANCE BOND PERIOD STARTS THE DATE THAT THE MAINTENANCE BOND IS ACCEPTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY EXCEPT THE CITY ATTORNEY, SO MOVED.

YOU GOT THAT FRANCIS, HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCIL GONGORA.

WILL THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS.

WILL THAT WORK FOR ME? OK, THANK YOU.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WANT TO HOLD YOU UP? MAKE SURE WE'RE SITTING ON THE SAME PAGE.

AND 30 DAYS IS REASONABLE FOR YOU TO GET WHAT YOU NEED TO OUR STAFF AND ABSOLUTELY OK, THANK YOU AND [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN AYE.

THAT IS FIVE YAYS ONE NO MOTION DOES CARRY.

NUMBER 18 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

[18. Discussion and possible action on potential commercial development.]

CHRIS, GO AHEAD.

SO THE DEVELOPER WHO'S HERE TONIGHT, AN ENGINEER, CAME TO US A COUPLE ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO.

HE STARTED DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AT THE CORNER OF 523 AND 35 ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER ABOUT DEVELOPING 400 RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND SOME COMMERCIAL AND SOME RETAIL.

WE ADVISE THEM THAT WE COULD NOT PROVIDE THE WASTEWATER CAPACITY BASED ON THE FLOW TO LIFT STATION 44 AND ALL THAT WAS ALREADY TAKEN UP.

SO WE MET WITH THEM AGAIN AND THE DISCUSSION REVOLVED AROUND DEVELOPING THIS IN PHASES WHERE THEY WOULD JUST DEVELOP THE GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE.

THEY WOULD PUT IN THE WATER AND SEWER BASED ON WHAT WE ADVISED.

WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL UPGRADE THAT AND WE CAN WE CAN LEVERAGE THE CONNECTIONS BECAUSE IT'S A COUPLE OF CONNECTIONS VERSUS 400 CONNECTIONS.

THE CITY WOULD BENEFIT OUT OF THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD PUT WATER AND SEWER OUT TO THAT INTERSECTION.

AND AGAIN, WE WOULD PAY FOR ANY UPSIZING TO BENEFIT THE CITY.

THEY'RE WILLING TO ANNEX AND AGAIN PROVIDE REVENUE AND POTENTIAL FUTURE GROWTH TO THE CITY.

SO WE'VE GOT THE DEVELOPER DEAN HERE AND AN ENGINEER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M JENN HENDERSON, I'M THE FOUNDER OF HENDERSON PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT.

WE ALSO HAVE DEAN DREW ON WITH US.

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DEAN IS MARRIED TO MELANIE AND THEY ARE PROSPERITY LAND DEVELOPMENT.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT DEAN.

HE'S HE'S A VERY SIMPLE GUY.

HE'S ENGLISH, IS HIS SECOND LANGUAGE, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TALKING TO YOU.

HE'S VERY, VERY HONEST AND HE'S VERY COMPASSIONATE AND HE'S VERY EMPATHETIC.

HE'S ALSO A VERY AUTHENTIC PERSON, AND HE'S VERY RELIABLE WHEN WHEN HE TELLS YOU HE'S GOING TO DO SOMETHING, HE'S GOING TO DO IT.

AND THE ONE THING I REALLY LIKE ABOUT DEAN IS THAT HE'S VERY, VERY APPROACHABLE.

YOU CAN CALL HIM AT ANY TIME, DAY OR NIGHT, AND HE'S GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

SO HE PASSED OUT TO YOU GUYS.

THE SLIDE SHOW THAT WE WANTED YOU TO SEE.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY 7 O'CLOCK.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO ME FOR HOURS AND HOURS.

IT'S EARLY, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED? WELL, WE'LL GO FIVE MINUTES.

YOU'RE PLENTY FINE.

YOU'VE GOT A GOOD TIME.

GOING FOR A RECORD RIGHT NOW.

OH, THAT'S AWESOME.

SO A COUPLE OF HIS PROJECTS THAT HE'S WORKED ON ARE WELL.

THE FIRST ONE IS IN ROUND ROCK, AND I'M PRETTY PROUD OF THIS ONE.

THIS IS WHERE MY OFFICE IS LOCATED.

THIS IS PANTHER MART.

IT'S LOCATED NEAR KALAHARI.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, LOOK IT UP ON THE INTERNET.

HE BUILT IT IN 2013 AND HE STILL OPERATES THAT.

IF YOU GO TO KALAHARI, YOU OUGHT TO HOP ON OVER TO HIS STORE AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE HIM BEHIND THE COUNTER EVERY NOW AND THEN.

HIM AND MELANIE ARE IN THERE WORKING BECAUSE THEY THEY DO OWN IT.

THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO SELL IT AND ALL OF THE CONVENIENCE STORES THEY HAVE, THEY THEY GENERALLY OPERATE.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE PROSPERITY SQUARE IN TAYLOR.

THIS ONE, IT'S IT'S A RELATIVELY BIG DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT YOU DON'T SEE IN THIS PICTURE IS THAT IT'S UP ON A HILL AND IT HAD SOME WASTEWATER CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH.

IT REQUIRED IT REQUIRED US TO GO ACROSS CARLOS PARKER DOWN ABOUT TWENTY TWO FEET AND THEN WE HAD TO BORE UNDER THAT ROAD.

SO THE TOPOGRAPHY WAS WAS A BIG DEAL.

AND THEN THE WATER WAS ALREADY THERE.

BUT WE WE BONDED THAT ONE AT THE END OF THE DAY.

TAYLOR TOWN CENTER THE NEXT ONE, THIS ONE REQUIRES A UTILITY EASEMENT FOR THE WATER.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE WASTEWATER ACROSS THE ROAD.

SO THE CHALLENGES WERE THIS WHERE THE CAPACITY AND THE LINES WHERE WE WERE GOING TO PUT THE BOARD PID LOCATIONS AND THIS ONE'S A REALLY FLAT SITE, REALLY.

IT'S A LOT LIKE THIS ANGLETON SITE WHERE IT'S IT'S FLAT.

WELL, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO A LIFT STATION TO GET WASTEWATER OUT OF THERE.

THE NEXT ONE IS TAYLORVILLE.

THIS ONE'S NAMED AFTER THE ORIGINAL TAYLOR CITY.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THERE'S 12 ACRES OF FLOODPLAIN THERE, WHILE ANGLETON THAT SITE DOES NOT HAVE FLOODPLAIN ON IT.

THIS IT WAS JUST ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THIS SITE.

THIS ONE IS STILL IN THE MASTER PLANNING PHASE, AND WE'VE GOT THE SAME WASTEWATER CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD ON THE OTHERS WHERE WE HAD TO BORE UNDER THE ROAD TO GO TO GO AND GET IT.

SO THE MIXED USE SUBDIVISION IN VICTORIA, THIS ONE, IT'S VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE IN ANGLETON, IN THAT IT'S GOT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT USES.

IT'S GOT RESIDENTIAL, IT'S GOT A CONVENIENT STORE, IT'S GOT SOME, SOME RETAIL ON IT TOO.

THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WITH THIS, WHICH I'M SO GLAD WE DON'T HAVE HERE, IS THE POWER LINE EASEMENT.

THAT POWER LINE EASEMENT MOVED MID DEVELOPMENT AND SO WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT.

WE'VE ALSO GOT TO DEAL WITH TXDOT ON HOW WE GET ACCESS FROM THE FRONTAGE ROAD ON THIS ONE.

SO WE'RE WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE PROCESSES.

SO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND INVEST IN ANGLETON BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DEAN'S BEEN LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET AND HE FEELS LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD INCREASE YOUR BUDGET BY ABOUT THREE POINT EIGHT PERCENT.

SUBDIVISIONS ARE GREAT, BUT THE BUSINESSES ARE NEEDED AS WELL.

AND SO THAT'S WHY HE WANTS TO START WITH A C STORE.

SO THE REASON HE LIKES ANGLETON IS BECAUSE YOUR TAX RATE IS SO LOW IN COMPARISON TO THE SURROUNDING CITIES.

YOU GUYS SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT [INAUDIBLE] THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THIS CITY SO THAT THAT THERE'S A A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF RENTERS AND THEREFORE THE HIGHER INCOME POTENTIAL HE HE THOUGHT BUILDING APARTMENTS WAS BETTER IN THAT LOCATION THAN IT WOULD BE TO BUILD A

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SUBDIVISION IN THAT LOCATION.

SO THE NEXT ONE, THE COST OF LIVING IS LOW HERE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEAN LOOKS AT AS A DEVELOPER.

HE THIS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS HE SEES IN, AND IT SHOWS US THAT ANGLETON OFFERS AFFORDABLE OPTIONS ALREADY, BUT YOU COULD USE A FEW MORE.

SO THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS AT STATE HIGHWAY 35 AND FM 523.

HERE IT IS.

AND THE PURPLE RIGHT HERE IS YOUR CITY LIMITS, SO YOU'LL SEE WHERE WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE THE THE GROWTH AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT GROWTH, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO THIS AREA.

AND WHAT THIS TELLS DEAN IS THAT HOUSTON AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS IS WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE.

HE WANTS TO TO COME TO WHERE THE GROWTH IS.

HE WANTS TO.

HE DOESN'T WANT TO FORCE THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT HE WANTS TO BUILD WHERE HE'S WANTED AND WHERE HE'S NEEDED.

AND HE FEELS LIKE ANGLETON IS THAT PLACE.

SO YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWS THIS AREA TO BE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THERE IS A POTENTIAL COST SHARE, LIKE CHRIS SAID, FOR SOME WASTEWATER UPSIZING, SOME WATER UPSIZING OUR CONCEPT DESIGN.

SO THE TOTAL SITE IS FORTY EIGHT ACRES AND OF THIS FORTY EIGHT ACRES.

THIS IS OUR FIRST PASS IDEA OF WHAT WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD THERE.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WHAT IT IS, BUT THIS DOES MEET THE CITY.

THE CITY ORDINANCES.

SORRY.

SO THE YELLOW BOXES RIGHT HERE ARE THE FIRST TO THE DEAN WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT, AND THE ONE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE C STORE AND THEN THE THE TOP OF THAT IS WHAT WHAT WE THINK COULD BE A DRIVE THRU LOCATION SIMILAR TO A MCDONALD'S OR A TACO BELL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU'RE ZONING MAP IS NEXT AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ONE ITTY BITTY PIECE OF THIS SITE IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS JUST VERY TINY.

AND THE CURRENT ADJACENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL.

IT'S COMMERCIAL GENERAL.

SO THIS WOULD KIND OF BE IN THE SAME ZONING AS THAT IS THE UTILITY LINES ARE ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED FEET TO THE SOUTH.

SO HE'S GOT QUITE A WAYS TO TO BRING THAT LINE.

SO PHASE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, HE'S GOT TO DO AN IMST STUDY, WHICH IS AN INDEPENDENT MARKET RESEARCH FIRM SPECIALIZING IN GAS STATIONS AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

HE HAS NOT DONE THIS STUDY FOR ANGLETON YET.

WE WANTED TO GET THROUGH THIS MEETING TONIGHT BEFORE HE DID THAT.

WHAT THE NUMBERS YOU SEE HERE ARE FROM THE TAYLOR SIDE.

THEY WERE DONE IN 2018 AND SO HE FEELS LIKE ABOUT TWENTY THOUSAND VEHICLES PER DAY WOULD COME THROUGH THIS GAS STATION.

THIS IS IT'S A VERY SIMILAR SITE TO TO THAT TAYLOR SITE IN THAT IT WASN'T ANNEXED AND WE HAD TO TO ANNEX PART OF THAT.

SO THE ESTIMATED INCOME TAX ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS JUST ESTIMATED WHAT HE ANTICIPATES TO BE WHAT WHAT THE TOTAL TAX IS TO THE STATE, THE COUNTY, AND THE CITY WOULD BE.

SO YOU WOULD ONLY SEE A PORTION OF THE SALES FUEL SALES TAX THAT GOES ONE HUNDRED PERCENT TO THE STATE AND YOU GET SOME ROLLBACK FROM THAT.

THE PROPERTY TAX, YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THAT A LOT.

YOU DO GET A SHARE OF THAT.

AND THEN THE SALES TAX, YOU GET ABOUT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THAT NUMBER ANNUALLY IN YOUR BUDGET.

SO THAT'S ONLY PHASE ONE.

SO WHEN YOU GO TO PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE, THAT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER THAT YOU SEE THERE.

HE ASSUMED HIS CONSTRUCTION COST AT ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE DOLLARS PER SQUARE FOOT JUST ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S IT COULD GO UP.

IT COULD GO DOWN.

WHO KNOWS? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR PHASE ONE, AND THAT WAS THE FUEL STATION AND THE DRIVE THROUGH FAST FAST FOOD, AND HE WOULD BE WILLING TO ANNEX THOSE TWO SITES WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND THEN AS THE SITE DEVELOPS, WE CAN WE COULD ANNEX THAT.

WE COULD WRITE THAT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IF YOU GUYS WERE AGREEABLE TO THAT.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE? AND WITH THAT, I WILL INTRODUCE YOU TO DEAN.

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HE IS THE DEVELOPER.

DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? OK.

IT'S OK.

WE DON'T BITE.

AND I KNOW CITY OF ANGLETON IS [INAUDIBLE] WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR COMING AND CONSIDERING US.

WE ARE LIMITED IN CERTAIN THINGS.

THERE ARE SOME CONSTRAINTS GOING ON HERE, BUT I COULD TELL THAT OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL THE [INAUDIBLE] GROUP AND YOU GUYS PUT A PLAN TOGETHER TO PRESENT US TO SEE IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE IN THAT SAME DIRECTION.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE THUS FAR.

WE'LL TELL YOU IF YOU CAN GET THAT CHICK FIL A OVER THERE YOU'D BE THEY PUT A STATUE IN TOWN FOR YOU.

I MEAN, IF THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN, IF YOU GET IT, MAN, LET ME TELL YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

SO, SO IN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER, WE'RE TRYING TO BE AGAIN UP FRONT, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT HANDSHAKE IN THE PUBLIC SO THAT WE ALL AGREE OR FOR COMMODIFY OR WHATEVER TO GIVE THE DEVELOPER THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT.

AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO LEAD THEM DOWN THE PATH AND SAY WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IF THAT'S NOT THE GUIDANCE OF THE COUNCIL.

AND AGAIN, THE INTENT IS TO SAY SOME PUBLIC THINGS IF WE AGREE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE STARTED THINKING OR BETWEEN HIM AND Y'ALL THAT THE MOVEMENT OF WATER AND SEWER POTENTIALLY OVER THERE AT SOME POINT GETS THE DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER WE'RE CONSTRAINTS AGAIN.

BUT NONETHELESS, IT GETS THE BALL ROLLING TO THAT CORNER, WHICH WE'VE KNOWN IS GOING TO BE EVENTUALLY AN EXTENSION OF ANGLETON THAT THAT WHOLE AREA THERE.

SO I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO PARTNER WITH US TO UPSIZE SHOULD THAT HAPPEN, TO GET SERVICES THAT WAY.

AND THIS IS A START.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE WHOLE BILL, SO TO SPEAK.

COUNCIL.

GO AHEAD, JOHN.

I'LL GO AHEAD, MARK.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE ALL THE THE PRESENTATION AND THE FORETHOUGHT THAT YOU PUT INTO YOUR DEVELOPMENT.

AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF A MULTI-USE PROPERTY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE HERE IN ANGLETON.

AND I LIKE HOW YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON STAGES BECAUSE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, FACING SOME DIFFICULTIES IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE STILL INTERESTED.

WHAT ONE QUESTION I HAVE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE CECIL YOU MIGHT KNOW THIS, BUT DO YOU KNOW THE DIRECTION OR WHERE THESE LINES WOULD BE COMING FROM? LIKE DOWN 523 OR 35? SO WE GOT JAVIER HERE WHOSE WATER MAIN ALONG 523 THAT GOES DOWN TO WINDROSE GREEN.

THEY HAD TO EXTEND THAT OVER TO FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL TO SERVICE THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE EASTERN END OF THAT LINE IS, SO IF THAT LINE IS EXTENDED OVER TO THIS INTERSECTION THAT GOES ALONG IN FRONT OF SOME UNINCORPORATED PROPERTY TO GET TO THIS INTERSECTION, WHICH IS THE PLAN ALL ALONG, BUT THAT WAS THE PLAN A LONG TIME AGO.

FORGET WHAT SIZE LINE IS EXPECTED TO GO UP HIGHWAY 35 THE LINE ALONG HIGHWAY 35 WOULD CONNECT WITH A BIG WATER MAIN THAT'S IN HENDERSON ROAD.

SO JEFF'S NOT WAS IT A PLAN TO TOTALLY ENCOMPASS THAT WITH 16 INCH? EXACTLY.

SO THE THOUGHT IS TO CONTINUE THAT 16 INCH LINE ALONG 523 EAST TOWARDS THE 35, 523 INTERSECTION AND THEN HEAD SOUTH ALONG 35 TO COMPLETE THE LOOP THERE ON HENDERSON.

THAT'S THAT'S THE THOUGHT OF SENDING WATER TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION.

WHERE DOES IT STOP RIGHT NOW? CURRENTLY, IT STOPS AT THAT INITIAL PHASE OF OF WINDROSE GREEN, WHICH DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS OUR PROPERTY LINE.

NOT QUITE YET.

SO ONCE THEY.

EXACTLY RIGHT RIGHT NEAR THAT DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN AS THEY START TO PHASE OUT MORE TO THE EAST, THEY'RE GOING TO EXTEND THAT ALONG THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE, WHAT ABOUT NUMBER TWO, NO PUN INTENDED, BUT IT'S THAT'S

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THAT IT'S IT'S IT'S A VALID POINT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE INITIALLY LOOKED AT.

I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH CHRIS ON THAT REGARDING CAPACITY IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT AREA SERVICED BY LIFT STATION FORTY FOUR OR, YOU KNOW, IN THAT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, RIGHT.

SO SO ANYTHING REQUESTED OUTSIDE OF THERE WOULD BE MOSTLY DIRECTED TO LIFT STATION FORTY FOUR.

AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD NEED TO GO.

SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT OPTIONS.

ONE THING WE'VE WE'VE YOU KNOW, THIS IS UNCERTAIN, BUT THE CAMPUS DRIVE LIFT STATION, FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT THERE NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, BACK 10 YEARS AGO, THE THOUGHT WAS, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT HEADING IN THAT GENERAL AREA.

AS WE SEE, WE'VE ONLY HAD, I THINK, THE THE PART SUMMER SUMMER HOUSE [INAUDIBLE].

SO THAT MIGHT BE SOME SOME AREA WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHIFT AROUND, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY THAT WE'VE HAD IN THAT AREA AND ALSO WITHIN LIFT STATION FORTY FOUR, WE'VE IDENTIFIED FULL CAPACITY JUST BASED ON INFILL DEVELOPMENTS AND THEN SO COMMITTED [INAUDIBLE] FOR THAT LIFT STATION.

SO FOR HIS PHASE ONE, THE POTENTIAL IS THERE TO FOR ALLOWABLE BECAUSE OF PHASE ONE.

AND AS WE'RE WORKING ON OUR CAPACITY ISSUES THAT MAY BE THE AVENUE TO GET INTO PHASE TWO AND THREE CORRECT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK AT.

WE JUST WANT TO EXPLORE THE OPTION OF A MORE REGIONAL TYPE OF LIFT STATION FOR THAT AREA, SEEING WHAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE THEIR WORK WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT TEAM ON TO SEE WHAT WE CAN GET IN TERMS OF A LIFT STATION SITE AND SIZING.

OK, THANK YOU.

YEAH, THAT'S I GOT I BLEW THE DUST OFF OF SOME OF MY MEMORY THERE.

THERE'S A THERE'S A UPSTREAM MANHOLE [INAUDIBLE] IN FRONT OF THE AISD RECEIVING THERE.

IT'S AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HENDERSON ROAD AND 35, WHICH IS THE UPSTREAM END OF A GRAVITY LINE.

IT RUNS DOWN THERE THROUGH METAL, WHATEVER THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] EVENTUALLY GETS OVER TO FORTY FOUR.

SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU LOOKING AT A FORCE PLANE.

THAT'S JUST TO DO THIS DEVELOPMENT RIGHT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT TO AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY EMPHASIZING THOSE GRAVITY LINES, MAYBE FOR PORTION OF I THINK IT STARTS WITH MAYBE A A 10 INCH SIZE RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA.

SO WE HAD TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S WAY BEYOND MY MEMORY.

RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS FOR DEAN.

AS FAR AS RETAIL, WHAT MAYBE WHAT KIND OF STORES DO YOU HAVE IN MIND FOR FOR THIS COMMUNITY? THE RETAIL RIGHT NOW, WE SAW THAT THE AREA NEED SOME ADDITIONAL RESTAURANT.

SO WE HOPE THAT WHEN WE DO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL CUSTOMER BUT RETAIL.

WE WE ARE THINKING MAYBE YOU KNOW MAYBE THE DOLLAR GENERAL CAN BE A SMALL [INAUDIBLE] LIKE CVS YOU KNOW, WALGREENS KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS.

WELL, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE OUR WISH LIST.

IF YOU GET WITH STAFF, WE'VE GIVEN MY WISH LIST MS. MARTHA, MR. CHRIS, WE DEFINITELY TELL YOU.

YOU KNOW, WE HEAR THE COMPLAINT ABOUT TWENTY FOUR HOUR BREAKFAST AREA.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IN OUR AREA.

THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

BUT GET WITH STAFF AND MAYBE THEY'LL GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS TO LOOK AT YOUR CHICK-FIL-A'S SUGGESTION.

MR. MAYOR WAS PRETTY ON THE SPOT.

I MEAN, IT SERVES BOTH ANGLETON AND [INAUDIBLE].

I'M JUST SAYING, YEAH, BECAUSE THAT AREA OVER THERE WITH SERVICE, THE DANBURY AREA PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE] OUT FROM THE BASTROP AREA.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE AREA THAT EASY TO GET TO.

SO THERE'S THERE'S QUITE A POTENTIAL OVER THERE AS WELL.

AND THE PORT TRAFFIC GET A LOT OF PORT TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THERE AS WELL, THE SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY DOWN THERE.

YOU GOT TO HELP ME HERE.

I'M STILL TRYING TO WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND THE CAPACITY OF LIFT STATION FORTY FOUR.

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IT'S NOT.

IT'S NOT AT ITS FULL CAPACITY.

THERE ARE.

THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS STILL COMING THAT HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO THAT LIFT STATION, WHICH IT WILL, WHICH YOU WILL RECEIVE IN THE FUTURE.

SO BY BEING AT ITS CAPACITY ARE YOU, INCLUDING SOME SOME AIR CASTLES OUT HERE OR YOU INCLUDING SOME ACTUAL STUFF, WE HAVE WE HAVE COVENANTS WITH DEVELOPERS.

SO THE ONE THE ONE DEVELOPMENT IS [INAUDIBLE].

YES, SIR, CONTRACTUALLY HAS [INAUDIBLE] LISTED FOR THERE.

BUT BEYOND THAT, IT'S WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA OF CAMPUS DRIVE.

AND THEN OTHER INFILL LOTS THAT HAVE NOT DEVELOPED WITHIN THAT SERVICE AREA IS WHAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED.

IS BIO BEND IN THERE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

NO BIO BEND IS A DIFFERENT SERVICE AREA.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT GOES DOWN BACK TO THE HOSPITAL.

EXACTLY.

GOING TO LIFT STATION FORTY FOUR? NO, THAT GOES DOWN TO [INAUDIBLE] DRIVE DOWN BACK TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY.

HENDERSON ROAD APARTMENTS THAT THAT WAS ALSO THAT ONE DOES NOT GO TO FORTY FOUR, THAT THAT WOULD HEAD TOWARDS [INAUDIBLE].

WHERE I'M GOING TO, GOING WITH THIS IS IT WE'VE GOT FOLKS HAVE COME TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE TO PUT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO, YEAH, GREAT, OK, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SEVEN HUNDRED LOTS, OK? ASSIGN THAT TO LIFT STATION FORTY FOUR AS A HOPE.

THEN YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE THAT'S COMING TO THE CITY THAT'S GOT THE CASH IN THEIR HAND AND SAY, I WANT TO DO THIS TODAY THE BIRD IN A HAND IS A LOT BETTER THAN A BIRD IN A BUSH.

OK, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING.

IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN I'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING IN 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AND NEVER SHOW UP.

GOOD POINT, CECIL.

JUST ONE OF THOSE THOSE BUMPS WILL HAVE TO JUMP OVER WHEN WE GET TO THEM.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

I SOUND LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN DOES HAVE A PRETTY GOOD VISION AND HE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY, IT SEEMS LIKE, OR AT LEAST START GETTING THAT BALL ROLLING.

SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE INTERSECTION THAT HE NEEDS TO DO THIS TYPE OF STUFF, WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.

IT'S THE CLOSEST THING TO TOWN LIKE THIS.

EVENTUALLY, 523 IS GOING TO WELL, THE PLAN IS THE FUTURE TO MIMIC THE TWO LANES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE A DOUBLE SET OF LANES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FREEPORT RIGHT OVER OVER THE 521.

WHEN THE TRAFFIC DEMANDS, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT'LL HAPPEN.

BUT.

I THINK IT'S A CLASSY DEVELOPMENT AT A MAJOR ENTRANCE POINT TO THE CITY, SO I THINK IN THE FUTURE IT WILL LOOK NICE.

I'LL.

I LAID BACK, I WAS WAITING.

SO, MR. DEAN, I THINK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF YOUR GAS STATION AND SOME TYPE OF RESTAURANT WITH IT.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME CAUTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS.

FROM MY POINT OF VIEW IS YOU'RE GOING TO BE COMPETING WITH A BUC-EE'S LESS THAN A MILE FROM YOU.

SO THAT'S RIGHT, THEY'RE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM YOU.

AND THEN A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU'VE LISTED IN HERE AND YOU KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, WE ALREADY HAVE IN ANGLETON.

SO YOU'D BE DUPLICATING A MCDONALD'S OR CVS OR WALGREENS OR ANY OF THAT THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

AND YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I'M MORE ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.

I FEEL WE HAVE ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL.

I DON'T.

I'M NOT.

I'M NOT A FAN OF BUILDING MORE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, EITHER.

I'D LIKE TO SEE OFFICE, RETAIL AND SOME ASPECT AND INDUSTRIAL.

SO JUST GIVING YOU MY HONEST OPINION ON THAT.

I I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULD HOLD YOU UP WHEN IT COMES TO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER, ASSUMING STAFF HAS DONE DUE DILIGENCE AND UNDERSTANDS THAT YOU HAVE CAPACITY.

AND CHRIS AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL, AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE READY TO GO NOW AND YOU WANT TO BUILD A GAS STATION IN.

I'M NOT GOING TO STOP YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HELPING US FROM OUR SIDE GET WATER AND SEWER OUT TO THAT LOCATION.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT I'M HOPING IN PHASE TWO AND THREE, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

SO IF IT'S OK, FIRST, I ECHO SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME.

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THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR RESEARCH.

THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT ANGLETON.

I HAVEN'T SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THIS, BUT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH YOU'VE DEVELOPED.

THOSE ARE NICE COMMUNITIES.

SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE MADE NICE DEVELOPMENTS.

CERTAINLY WOULD BE AN ASSET TO THE CITY.

I CAN JUST ALL I CAN SAY IS I'M STRONGLY IN OPPOSITION TO APARTMENTS, SO AND I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU THINK YOU NEED TO MAKE THIS WORK.

BUT I DON'T THINK I COULD BE IN MORE STRONG OPPOSITION TO TO APARTMENTS.

I'M JUST ONE VOTE.

YOU MAY SECURE FIVE OTHERS YOU CAN SEE.

I'M KIND OF THE OUTLIER OVER HERE.

SO BUT I WE'VE ALREADY MY UNDERSTANDING IN THAT AREA.

WE ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE DEVELOPMENT OF APARTMENTS JUST LITERALLY DEVELOPING JUST AROUND THE CORNER.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT MAY BE GOOD FOR YOUR NUMBERS TO HAVE A OWNER TO RENTER RELATIONSHIP.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANGLETON BECOME MORE OWNERS.

NO OFFENSE TO YOU, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THERE BE MORE OWNERSHIP AND LESS RENTERS.

BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

MY PERSPECTIVE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, THOUGH, I APPRECIATE IT.

LIKE I SAID YOU, I'M JUST ONE PERSON OVER HERE SO YOU CAN DEAL WITH THEM AND YOU PROBABLY GOT WHAT YOU WANT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, TRAVIS.

SO CHRIS, DOES THAT GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION [INAUDIBLE].

SO TWO THINGS ONE IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CAUTION AND SAID WE CAN'T COMMIT TO THIS 400 PLUS DEVELOPMENT.

WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.

AND SO WE'RE COMMITTING TO KIND OF THE CORNERSTONE OF THIS.

BUT TO TRAVERSE YOUR POINT, JOHN, YOUR POINT AND ALL THAT.

I MEAN, WE COULD SAY WE WANT WHATEVER OUT THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO GET NOTHING UNLESS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE.

THIS IS THE FUTURE OF WORLD.

WE'RE LIMITED IN THAT AREA.

AND SECOND SECOND THING IS, SO IF WE WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, WE NEED TO MOVE INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE US IF THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD TO ENTER INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR WORK TOWARD THOSE STEPS AND DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT ON PHASE ONE.

OR ARE WE TALKING THE WHOLE THING? I THINK ON PHASE ONE WITH AGAIN APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT WE CAN DISCUSS PHASE TWO THREE, WHATEVER, AT SOME OTHER POINT.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO THE STEPS WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IS, LET'S PUT IT ON PAPER FIRST, SO WE ALL WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND AND START ENGINEERING AND START WHATEVER, IF THAT'S WHAT WE IF WE AGREE TO.

ALL RIGHT, MAKES SENSE.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE GOOD FAITH AND WELCOMING NEW BLOOD TO TOWN, BUT OTHERWISE YOU DON'T FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE COMING HERE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO COMMIT TO HELPING YOU OUT, GET INTO TOWN.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A COSTLY.

I MEAN, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME IDEA ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST.

IT'LL BE COSTLY TO THE CITY TO RUN A 16 INCH LINE UP THERE FOR AN ENTITY THAT NEEDS AN 8 OR WHATEVER.

I'M JUST GUESSING.

SO TONIGHT WAS JUST [INAUDIBLE] DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

THANK YOU, MR. BOOTH.

OK, SO I THINK THE POSSIBLE ACTION WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS JUST THE TO AUTHORIZE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, NOT NECESSARILY THE APARTMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT JUST TO.

CAN WE START TALKING ABOUT IT WITH YOU GUYS? IT SOUNDS LIKE AT LEAST PHASE ONE AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON TWO AND THREE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE DOWN THE ROAD FOR YOU GUYS, RIGHT? YEAH.

WOULD YOU ALL BE AMICABLE TO THAT? YEAH.

THAT'S UP TO COUNCIL, NOT ME, SO WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE THAT.

OH YEAH.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY STAFF TO WORK WITH HP ENGINEERING AND DEAN TRUONG ON [INAUDIBLE] COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, SECOND .

MOTIONED BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN, AYE.

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THAT IS FIVE TO ONE MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, SIR AND MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE, NUMBER NINETEEN

[19. Discussion and possible action on the purchase of additional water from Brazosport Water Authority.]

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL WATER FROM BRAZOSPORT PORT WATER AUTHORITY.

CHRIS, IS THAT GOING TO BE YOU TO START IT OFF? OH, I'M SORRY, JEFF.

YOU KNOW, MAYOR, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I BROUGHT IN FRONT OF YOU THE NEED FOR FUTURE WATER.

AND YOU CAN SEE WITH DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, WE NEED IT.

I TALKED ABOUT BWA AND I THINK A FEW OF THEM THROUGH YOU.

Y'ALL SAID Y'ALL WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO COME AND TALK TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE ASK THEM FOR IS THEY HAVE TWO MILLION IN RESERVE RIGHT NOW.

WE THOUGHT ABOUT GETTING 500000 UP FRONT.

THEY SAID THEY COULD SEND US THAT NOW WITHOUT INCREASING THE WATER LINE FROM BWA ANGLETON.

THEN IF WE ONLY ASK FOR THE OTHER ONE POINT FIVE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO UPGRADE THE LINE.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOVERNMENT COMING IN RIGHT NOW.

FACING IS WE DON'T CONTRACT FOR ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION AND WE USE THAT BY THE DAY ONE POINT SEVEN ONE POINT EIGHT.

DURING THE SUMMER, WE GO UP TO TWO POINT FIVE MILLION.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE USE RIGHT NOW.

BUT I HAVE MORRIS MASSINGILL.

HE'S A CITY REPRESENTATIVE FOR BWA [INAUDIBLE].

HE IS THE CEO, THE THE MANAGER OF BWA.

WE JUST NEED TO GET STARTED.

THEY NEED TO KNOW TO GO IN FRONT OF THEIR BOARD, WHICH WAY TO GO IF THEY'RE NOT MISTAKEN.

YOU ALL HAVE TO GO IN FRONT OF OTHER CITIES TO ASK FOR PERMISSION AND ALL OF THAT TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RESERVE AND ALL THAT AND EACH CITY'S GOT TO PROVE IT.

[INAUDIBLE] SO I THINK OTHER CITIES ARE TALKING WITH BWA ABOUT PURCHASING WATER IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

COME ON UP ON UP TO THE MIKE.

YES, THANK YOU.

ANYWAY [INAUDIBLE] INCREASE THEIR DAILY INTAKE SIGNIFICANTLY.

THEY NO LONGER ARE USING, WELL, WATER, SO THEY'RE TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON BWA.

AND I WOULD EXPECT AS THE SALINITY IN THE WELLS SOUTH OF US IS GOING TO GO HIGHER AND EVENTUALLY OTHER CITIES WILL HAVE TO DROP OFF THE USE OF, WELL, WATER.

AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE ANGLETON DO IS GO AHEAD AND LOCK UP THE THE CAPACITY THAT BWA CURRENTLY HAS IN EXCESS SO THAT WE CAN MEET YOUR FUTURE EXPANSION WITHIN THE CITY.

AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A LARGER PIPELINE.

SO YOU'RE RUNNING ON AN 18 INCH LINE THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PACKAGE WHEN THE PLANT WAS, THE FACILITY WAS BUILT.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN THREE POINT TWO MILLION GALLONS A DAY ARE GOING TO ROSENBURG THROUGH THAT SAME LINE THAT SUPPLIES ANGLETON.

SO WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY WELL HITTING ITS CAPACITY.

NOT PRETTY WELL.

WE ARE HITTING ITS CAPACITY IN THAT EXCESS WATER.

THAT WAS ONLY THE FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND WAS TO DELIVER IT TO THE SOUTH OF [INAUDIBLE] FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND WOULD ONLY BE THEY COULD DO IT RIGHT NOW AND FORCE IT UP TO JAMISON PLANT AND WE JUST SEND IT OFF, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT THAT THAT IS DOUBLE LINED PIPE OUT THERE THAT WE'VE PUT IN BACK IN 87, 87 AND, YOU KNOW 1987 RIGHT? CECIL YEAH.

PRETTY CLOSE.

OH, DURING THE CONTRACT IT IT'S RATED AT ONE HUNDRED.

IT WAS TESTED AND RATED AT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY PSI.

WE CURRENTLY RUN ABOUT 80 TO 90 POUNDS.

WE HAVE PRESSURE.

WE HAVE RAN IT UP SO WE CAN GET NUMBERS FOR JEFF.

WE TOOK IT UP, WE TOOK IT UP TO ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE AND WE TOOK IT UP TO ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN PSI.

IT HOLDS WITHOUT A PROBLEM AND THAT'S WHAT WE FELT COMFORTABLE.

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WE CAN PUSH THAT WATER UP HERE THAT HALF OTHER HALF MILLION GALLONS OF JAMESON POSSIBLY GET A LITTLE MORE HENDERSON, BUT IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO GET IT ANGLETON AND FEED AROUND THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.

SO ORIGINALLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY IN THE LAST DISCUSSION, AND NOW IF WE INCREASE THE PSI, WE WILL HAVE THE EXTRA FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT WE'RE SAYING.

THAT IS CORRECT.

WE TOOK AND DID A PRESSURE TEST ON THE LINE.

WE HAD JEFF PULL HIS [INAUDIBLE] HIS HENDERSON ROAD SIDE DOWN, AND WE PUT EVERYBODY AT THEIR CONTRACT CLOTHES.

AND THEN WE STARTED PRESSURING UP TO SEE WHAT WE COULD SEND THROUGH THE LINES AND WHERE WE COULD GET IT.

WE SENT, WE PUT MORE WATER, A LITTLE MORE WATER IN HENDERSON, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO OPEN UP AND RUN, RUN MORE WATER INTO THE JAMIESON SITE, WHICH SHOWED THAT WE COULD WE COULD SEND A HALF MILLION GALLONS MORE DAY TO Y'ALL.

CAN WE STORE IT? PROBABLY NOT AT ALL.

BUT LONG DEVELOPMENT KEEPS COMING IN.

YES, WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT.

LIKE I SAY, WE RUN OUT TO ONE POINT EIGHT NOW AND THEN.

SOMETIMES IT GOES UP ABOVE THAT.

AND IS THAT WHEN YOU KICK THE WELLS ON OR [INAUDIBLE] AUTOMATIC, IF IF THEY RUN AND THEY RUN LIKE TWELVE HUNDRED FIFTY GALLONS A MINUTE AROUND THERE, ANYTHING IS STARTING TO DROP A LITTLE BIT PAST THAT OUR WELL COMES DOWN THE HILL.

OK, SO WE WILL STILL HAVE OUR WELLS.

SO MY MIND IS IN THAT PLANNING WORLD AND I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT WE'VE BEEN LUCKY THE LAST COUPLE OF SUMMERS, WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE EXTRA WET.

WE AIN'T BEEN AS DRY AND I'M REALLY THINKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET DRY AGAIN.

AND YOU SEE THE DROUGHT PATTERNS THAT JUST KIND OF FLOAT ACROSS TEXAS AND EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO MIGRATE BACK OVER US AGAIN.

THE JEFF, I'M ASKING BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE THE WATER GUY.

IS IT IF WE GOT TO THAT DROUGHT PERIOD, WHAT OUR WELLS GET US, THAT'S NEVER GOING TO GO TO THE FIVE HUNDRED TONIGHT, JUST SAYING.

BUT IF WE'RE MAINTAIN WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, NEXT YEAR, WE GET A HARD DROUGHT.

WELL, OUR WELLS BE ABLE TO GET US BACK TO THE ONE POINT EIGHT OR IS THAT SPEAKERS] WELL WATER.

WELL, IF WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE BWA HAD TO REDUCE AND WE HAD OUR WELL WATER, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD GET US? I MEAN, WOULD WE BE CONSIDERABLY CUT OFF PUMP TWO MILLION A DAY.

MAYBE GET EXISTING WELLS NOW.

MY THING WAS IS IF WE GO WITH THIS, THAT PUTS US IN A BETTER POSITION REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS HERE NOW.

THE NEEDS, AS OF TODAY, WITH WHAT WE HAVE ON THE GROUND, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO BE RESILIENT THESE DAYS.

NOWADAYS WE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES WHERE WE AT.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THIS PUMP THREE MILLION OUT OF THAT PLAN.

OKAY, BUT THAT CAN'T GO ON.

BUT BUT THAT CAN'T GO ON FOREVER, RIGHT? WHAT I'M NOT INSINUATING IS THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.

OK, SO YOU GET TO THAT.

BUT IF WE HAD TO AT LEAST DO SOME LIMITING, WE COULD STILL AT LEAST COME UP SOME.

OKAY, WHEN YOU GET INTO A SITUATION LIKE THAT, MAYOR, YOU'VE GOT TO START LIMITING IN PEOPLE.

YEAH, WE USE CONSERVATION MEASURES.

I GUESS I'M NOT GET MY MESSAGE RIGHT.

MY MESSAGE IS THEN IF WE EVER GOT TO A DROUGHT, WE STILL HAVE MORE CAPABILITY COMING FROM THE BWA.

AND THAT RESILIENCE IS RELYING AS MUCH ON THE WATER WELLS.

IF WE GO TONIGHT AND SAY, WE SAY, LET'S DO IT, BUT THAT JUST GIVES YOU THAT EXTRA CUSHION CAPACITY.

IF THEY SAY WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU TO REDUCE YOU TO 50 PERCENT, WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE OK VERSUS IF WE DIDN'T GO THAT NEW GPM PER DAY, IF WE TELL US 50, WE'RE GOING TO PUSH HEAVY MORE ON THE WELLS AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO WORK THEM OUT, RIGHT? OK, NOW THE BWA OUR BIGGEST PUMPING DAYS AREN'T DURING THE SUMMER, IT'S DURING THE WINTER.

ON COLD DAYS, SUCH AS WE HAD IN FEBRUARY.

ALL OUR [INAUDIBLE] POINTS BEEN DONE IN THE WINTER.

REALLY? YES, SIR.

WHEN THEY'RE SAYING JANUARY, FEBRUARY, IT'S GOING TO BE COLD AGAIN THIS YEAR.

PLUS, WE HAVE SENATE BILL THREE TO WORRY ABOUT NOW, WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN A MINIMUM OF 20 PSI ON YOUR OWN YOUR SYSTEM OUT THERE IF YOU START LOSING ELECTRICITY.

SO SOMETHING TO ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND.

SO WE PUSH MORE WATER BECAUSE DOWN HERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OK, HOW MUCH YOU TELL THEM, DON'T TURN THE FAUCET ON, THEY'RE TURNING THE FAUCETS ON.

YEAH, AND IT'S GOING TO, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO DRAIN UP WHAT WE SAW IN A NUMBER OF CITIES LAST YEAR.

THEY JUST COULDN'T KEEP UP AND WE WERE PUSHING WATER.

SOME OF THEM COULDN'T GET IT OUT.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH BOOSTER PUMP TO GET IT OUT TO THE CITY, OUT TO THEIR CUSTOMERS.

WELL, KEEP IN MIND AND ONE THING COUNCIL RIGHT? YOU MENTIONED THE FACT THAT EARLIER WE SAID WE COULDN'T DELIVER THAT 500000, AND

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THAT WAS TRUE.

WE'VE MADE MODIFICATIONS DOWN HERE, THE PLANT THAT ALLOWS US TO REGULATE THE PRESSURE GOING INTO THE TRANSPORT AREA.

AND SO WE'RE NOT OVER PRESSURING THEIR SYSTEMS SO WE CAN RUN THE PRESSURE HIGHER COMING FORWARD.

AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A QUICK AND UNNECESSARILY QUICK PROJECT, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE SO THAT WE COULD INCREASE, YOU KNOW, GRADUALLY INCREASE THE FLOW COMING THIS WAY BY INCREASING PRESSURE.

WE TOOK EVERYTHING FROM FROM THE HALF LAKE JACKSON OFF THE LINE TO COME THIS WAY.

THAT IS CORRECT.

IT ALL CAME OUT OF PLANT, RAN INTO ONE LINE AND THEN WENT DOWN AND TEED OFF, WELL, EVERYTHING THAT WE TOOK, WE RAN A SEPARATE LINE DOWN TO IT AND THE TIE IT IN SO OPEN DRIVE CLUTE RICH OAK DRIVEWAY, JACKSON, CLUTE, RIDGEWOOD, FREEPORT, OYSTER CREEK DOWN THERE, ALL ON A DIFFERENT PRESSURE PLANE NOW THAN WHAT WE'RE UP HERE, UP HERE DID [INAUDIBLE] WAYNE, SCOTT, BEACHWOOD.

AND HE GOES UP TO THE AUSTIN TOWN FACILITY.

SO AFTER ALL THE DIFFERENT PRESSURE PLAINS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE MORE WATER, I WOULD REALLY WE COULD DRAG THIS MEETING ON FOREVER.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SO YOU CAN GIVE US MORE WATER, BUT WE'RE STILL HAMSTRUNG BY THE FACT THAT YOU CAN ONLY GIVE US WHAT YOU GIVE OFF THE BRAZOS.

THAT IS CORRECT AT THE MOMENT WE ARE WE ARE STILL WORKING AND OWN OUR [INAUDIBLE] GROUND WATER DESALINIZATION FACILITY IS COMING ALONG.

THERE'S CONSTRUCTION DOWN AT WELL SITE THREE, THREE AND THREE A THOSE THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO WELLS WILL BE ON LINE AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IN MAY, WITH FINAL COMPLETION IN JUNE.

THE TWO IN THE TWO OF THEM THAT PROJECT, BUT WITH OVER WATER WELLS THROUGHOUT ANGLETON.

WHEN THAT'S IN THEN WE'LL WE'LL HAVE OUR PILOT PLANT IN.

WE'LL FINISH THE THE TESTING THAT WE NEED TO DO.

IT'LL TAKE THREE TO SIX MONTHS ON THAT AND I FINISHED THE END.

THE ENGINEERS CAN FINISH THE PRETREATMENT DESIGN.

WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE IN THE PIPE IN THE PLANT, BUT WE HAVE TO FINISH THE PRETREATMENT.

SO WE'RE WE'RE BE DOING THAT TESTING.

SO WE GET IT RIGHT.

YOU DON'T YOU DON'T WANT TO BRING SOMETHING IN THERE AND RUIN A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF MEMBRANES.

AS SOON AS THAT'S FINISHED, WE'LL MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION ON THE WE'LL MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION ON THE ON THE FIRST PHASE OF THE [INAUDIBLE] FACILITY, WHICH IS SIX MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

WE WANT THAT CORRECT.

SECOND PHASE WILL BE ANOTHER SIX MILLION, SO THEY GIVE US 12 MORE MILLION GALLONS OF WATER.

SO IF WE GO INTO A DROUGHT SITUATION, WE CAN BRING MORE OF THE [INAUDIBLE] WATER ON AND SUPPLY OUR OWN UP HERE TO APPLY HERE TO OTHER CITIES AND TRY AND MAKE UP SOME OF THAT DIFFERENCE.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT YOUR WELL, SO HARD THE WAY HE SAID THREE DAYS AGO.

Y'ALL HAVE A PROBLEM.

WHAT DO YOU? WELL, WE'RE TALKING PROBABLY THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS.

WE WE ARE TOLD WE WILL HAVE THE BRACKISH DESAL FACILITY FIRST PHASE ONLINE IN 2024.

YES, THAT'S FIVE YEARS BEHIND SCHEDULE.

CORRECT.

A FEW OTHER GOING, I THOUGHT, I REMEMBER I STILL HAD HAIR WHENEVER THIS GOT PASSED.

I WOULDN'T ALL THIS GREAT EITHER.

PROBABLY DID.

IT WAS A WE CAN THANK THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR SLOWING THAT WHOLE PROJECT DOWN.

WELL, IF WE TAKE THE EXTRA SUPPLY AND WE'RE ONLY TALKING TONIGHT, CHRIS, ABOUT $500000 RIGHT.

NO.

WELL, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO PUTTING ANOTHER PIPE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.

WHAT YOU TAKE THE $500000 RIGHT NOW AND TAKE IT INTO YOUR CONTRACT FOR YOUR TAKE HOME PAY.

THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ONE POINT FIVE THAT YOU COULD PUT INTO RESERVE IF YOU ALL CHOOSE TO DO SO.

NOBODY ELSE CAN THEN REACH OUT AND GRAB THAT RESERVE.

BUT IF YOU DON'T TAKE THAT RESERVE AND FREEPORT ARE GOING TO START SELLING WATER TO SURFSIDE, AND IF THEY NEED MORE WATER, THEY CAN PULL THAT THEY CAN PULL APART.

ANOTHER WAY TOO [INAUDIBLE] CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH, THE CITY OF [INAUDIBLE] TOOK A HALF MILLION AND THEN ONE AND A HALF MILLION RESERVE.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A HALF MILLION LIKE Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT INTO UNDERTAKER PAY AND THEN USING AN ALREADY SIMPLY FACT, THEY WENT OVER.

WE CAN RATCHET THEM UP, WE CAN RATCHET THAT UP.

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IT'S THE CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT FOR RATCHETING.

Y'ALL WERE A LITTLE UNDER THIS YEAR, SO I CAN'T JUST RATCHET RATCHET Y'ALL TAKE OR PAY UP.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ONE SEVEN SOMETHING A DAY? YEAH, YEAH.

SO Y'ALL WERE A LITTLE UNDER ON THE AVERAGE [INAUDIBLE] OVER BECAUSE THEY THEY STARTED HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THEIR WELL AND THEY STARTED SHUTTING THEM DOWN.

SO THEY WENT OVER.

THEY GOT TO PAY FOR THAT EXCESS WATER FOR THIS YEAR, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RATCHET THEM UP.

SO NEXT YEAR THEY'RE PAYING, THEY'RE PAYING THE FULL CONTRACT PRICE THE WHOLE YEAR AND THEY WANTED A HALF MILLION GALLON OF RESERVE, WHICH THEY WILL TAKE AND THEY WILL JUST PAY THE DEBT SERVICE PORTION OF THAT AND HOLD THAT UNTIL THE TIME THEY NEED IT.

SO RIGHT NOW, DEBT FOR DEBT SERVICE IS A DOLLAR THIRTY A GALLON, SO THEY'LL BE PAYING A DOLLAR THIRTY [INAUDIBLE] DOLLARS.

[INAUDIBLE] A BUCK THIRTY A THOUSAND IS THE DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT.

AND SO IF YOU DESIRE IT AT ONE POINT FIVE, WE'RE GOING TO LOCK IT UP, THEN Y'ALL NEED Y'ALL WOULD NEED TO HAVE CHRIS WRITE US THE LETTER AND TELL US WHAT YOU WANT.

YOU WANT TO HALF MILLION AND TO TAKE A PAY NOW.

AND IF YOU WANT THE HALF MILLION AND ONE POINT FIVE FOR RESERVE, THEN THAT'S AVAILABLE.

THAT'S THE CHOICE OF COUNCIL AND STAFF NEED TO MAKE WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO.

DOES THE ONE POINT FIVE REQUIRE US TO PUT THE SECOND LINE IN? THE ONE POINT FIVE WILL WOULD REQUIRE A SECOND LINE WE CAN.

WE'VE TALKED TO ENGINEERS, WE'VE TALKED TO THE ENGINEERS.

WE KNOW WE CAN PUT THAT LINE THAT LINE IN.

IN ABOUT 12 TO 14 MONTHS.

WE DID IT BEFORE.

SO IF WE GET GET THE PEOPLE BACKING IT AND COMMITTING TO THE DEBT SERVICE PART OF THAT THAT WE LOOKED AT THIS.

AND IF WE CAN GET IF WE CAN TAKE ON A LITTLE OVER THREE MILLION GALLONS MORE AND SELL THE THOUGHT IS TO PUT THAT LINE IN AND NOT HAVE TO INCREASE DEBT SERVICE ON ALL THE MEMBER CITIES.

WE JUST SELL IT OUT LIKE IT IS FOR THIS.

AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE YOU CAN TAKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SUPPLY YOU ALL THE WATER YOU NEED AND WE'LL STILL KEEP THE 18 IN SERVICE.

WE'LL RUN A PARALLEL TO IT AND WE'LL GO ON UP AND TIE IT IN ON UP AT HENDERSON ROAD SO WE COULD FEED OUT OF ONE OR BOTH.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE LINE OF THE LINE HITS OUR LINE OR SOMETHING.

WE SHUT IT, SHUT THAT ONE OFF AND THEY PREPARED.

WE CAN STILL KEEP FEEDING WATER AND IT'LL ALLOW US TO GET TO SUPPLY AS MUCH WATER TO THE NORTH AS WE NEED, TO THE NORTH.

I'M STAYING IN [INAUDIBLE].

EVENTUALLY, LAKE JACKSON IS GOING TO WANT TO DEVELOP THEIR AIRPORT SITE.

THEY HAVE TO PUT THEIR OWN LINE IN RIGHT? THE COUNTY AIRPORT.

YEAH, THEY WOULD HAVE THEY WOULD COME OFF, THEY WOULD COME OFF OUR LINE, THE BWA LINE, WHICH WOULD ALSO IF THEY TAKE MORE WATER DROPS, THE DROP THE DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT.

MORE THE MORE WATER WE SELL OFF OF THAT, THE DEBT SERVICE SHOULD COME DOWN IF WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPEND THE MONEY THAT WILL BRING THE DEBT SERVICE DOWN.

WELL, I THINK WE'D WANT THAT IN AN AGREEMENT.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, ANY FUTURE OR WHATEVER, WOULD CAUSE US TO DROP THE DEBT SERVICE, OUR DEBT SERVICE? RATHER DENOMINATED GOES UP IF WE DO NOT HAVE TO INCREASE, IF WE DO NOT HAVE TO PUT OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, NATURALLY, IT WOULD COME DOWN.

BUT DID OUR DEBT SERVICE FALL WHENEVER ROSENBERG CAME ONLINE? ACTUALLY, Y'ALL.

IF YOU LOOK BACK, I THINK I SEE THAT IF WE DO.

YES, Y'ALL.

IT WENT.

Y'ALL ENDED UP OVER WHAT TO PLAN [INAUDIBLE] IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'RE GOING TO DO.

I THINK Y'ALL Y'ALL SAVING WAS IN MY.

I DON'T HAVE Y'ALL HAD SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT ROSENBERG.

I KNOW, I KNOW THE PEOPLE TAKING LAKE JACKSON AND FREEPORT THAT SAVED OVER $1.1 MILLION OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

SO IF WE SEE ANYTHING, Y'ALL SAVED IT BECAUSE WE HAD TO GO UP INITIALLY.

TWENTY NINE CENTS TO FILE ANOTHER TWENTY NINE PERCENT TO A THOUSAND ON TOP OF WHERE YOU'RE AT NOW.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, BUT I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN THAT IN THE FINANCIAL NUMBERS SO WE SAVED BY NOT GOING UP? THE RATES WERE GOING UP INITIALLY.

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[INAUDIBLE] THE RATE STAYS THE SAME.

[INAUDIBLE] IT'S CALLED INFLATION.

IF YOU CAN'T BUY A GASOLINE FOR WHAT YOU BOUGHT IT FOR A MONTH AGO, YEAH, BUT GASOLINE FLUCTUATES UP AND DOWN.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS OUR WATER WILL NEVER GO DOWN.

OK, IT WON'T.

IT'S DIFFERENT.

ANYBODY'S GOT A SWIMMING POOL.

NO WHAT CHLORINE PRICES HAVE DONE OUR CHLORINE PRICES, WE USED TO PAY SIXTY TWO CENTS A POUND.

WE'RE PAYING A DOLLAR ELEVEN A POUND RIGHT NOW.

OUR OUR [INAUDIBLE] SODA.

YOU HAVE THE QUESTION OF OUR [INAUDIBLE].

THE DAY AFTER OUR BOARD MEETING, I GOT A NOTICE FROM MY SUPPLIER.

IT WENT UP TWENTY PERCENT.

WE'VE SEEN, WE'VE SEEN SIMILAR ON MOST OF OUR TREATMENT CHEMICALS.

THEY'RE ALL JUST MOVING UP.

NOBODY WILL SIGN CONTRACTS WITH YOU NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE TELLING YOU THEY'VE GOT TO GO AGAINST MARKET PRICE YES.

AND IT'S A CRAZY WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN RIGHT NOW.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S WHAT IT IS.

RONNIE, JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION, WHAT WHAT SIZE OF LINE WOULD YOU BE PROPOSING TO BRING TO ANGLETON IN A NEW LINE? WE HAVE A FORTY TWO DEAD ENDED UP HERE IN HENDERSON.

WE WOULD LIKE WE'D LIKE TO TRY AND GET AS CLOSE TO THAT 42 AS POSSIBLE, DEPENDING ON WHAT, DEPENDING ON CONSTRUCTION COST THEY'VE GONE.

THEY'VE GONE CRAZY HERE LATELY TO PVC PRICES HAVE GONE OUT OF THE WORLD.

I MEAN, WE PROBABLY COULD DUCK [INAUDIBLE] IRON CHEAPER WHEN YOU PUT YOU SEE IN THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.

OK, SO THE NEW LINE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING UP TO ANGLETON IS GOING TO HELP YOU WITH FIT IN ORDER TO ROSENBURG.

IT'LL HELP SEND WATER TO EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY ALONG HERE.

THERE, THE SUBDIVISION WANTING TO COME IN, OUT HERE, OVER HERE ON 521.

I THINK THEY'VE TALKED WITH THE CITY ABOUT WATER.

YEAH, AND WE TOLD THEM NO.

RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR IT.

WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT.

THERE'S OTHER THERE'S ANOTHER FACILITY LOOKING TO START SEA WATER DESALINIZATION DOWN SOUTH.

I CAN'T SAY A WHOLE LOT ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF CONFIDENTIAL AGREEMENTS AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE'RE PROPOSING ANYBODY ELSE THAT COMES ON OUTSIDE OF OUR CURRENT MEMBER CITIES.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY.

THEY HAVE TO PAY A HIGHER PRICE FOR SEA WATER IF THEY WANT TO GET WATER FROM US.

THAT'S JUST THE DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS, AND WE WANT TO SAVE OUR RESERVES FOR HER, FOR OUR CUSTOMER CITIES.

I THOUGHT THE SEAWATER IS SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER BECAUSE IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE TREATED.

NO, NO, NO.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH SEAWATER VERY TAKES A LOT OF ELECTRICITY, A LOT OF PRESSURE TO PUSH THAT WATER THROUGH THE MEMBRANES.

IT, IF WE LIVED IN [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE NO PROBLEM.

BUT WE LIVE IN BRAZORIA COUNTY.

WE DON'T HAVE THEIR MONEY.

IF YOU COULD DO FLASH DISTILLATION OFF OF THE REFINERIES AND ALL LIKE THEY DO OVER THERE.

NOT A PROBLEM.

WE DON'T HAVE THOSE HEAT SOURCES.

THAT'S INTERESTING TO KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M NOT I PERSONALLY AM NOT IN FAVOR OF RUNNING A SECOND LINE RIGHT NOW, BUT I DEFINITELY WANT THE FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.

THAT'S WHAT WE CAN GET.

I'M ALSO NOT IN FAVOR OF BWA SENDING ANY MORE WATER OUTSIDE OF THE ANGLETON ETJ WITHOUT ANGLETON APPROVAL.

I KNOW THE CONVERSATIONS COME UP IN THIS COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT NOT BEING NOT HAVING APPROVAL FOR US TO GO TO [INAUDIBLE].

THE FACT IS, I KNOW I CAME UP HERE FOR CLASS AND [INAUDIBLE] CAME UP HERE ONCE AND Y 'ALL'S COUNCIL ACTUALLY DID A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THAT THAT PROJECT.

YOU KNOW WHAT YEAR THAT WAS FROM? YEAH, AROUND 2013.

I TRIED TO FIND THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING, BUT I COULD FIND PARTICLES IN THE PAPER WHERE THE RESOLUTION PASSED.

BUT I CAN'T FIND MINUTES FROM THE MEETING THE CITY'S RECORD OK.

I MEAN, MOSTLY I'M CONCERNED NOT ABOUT GOING BACKWARDS, BUT GOING FORWARDS WHERE NOTHING, YOU KNOW, SUBDIVISIONS ARE TRYING TO SKIRT AROUND ANGLETON AND COME IN AND ASK BWA FOR WATER BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH US OR THEY DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW OUR RULES.

THAT'S WHAT I'M AFRAID OF ANYBODY BEFORE WE EVER TALK TO THEM.

WE WE MAKE SURE AND ASK, HAVE THEY TALKED TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON? WE WERE NOT ABOVE OR ANYBODY ELSE COMING OUT WITH THE WATER.

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WE CHECKED TO MAKE SURE THEY TALK TO THAT ADJACENT CITY.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE COMPUTER TO COMPETE, TO SELL WATER WITH.

THAT'S NOT OUR INTENTION AT ALL.

THAT'S TRUE.

SO MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF WE ENTER INTO AGREEMENT FOR WHATEVER AMOUNT IS, WE STIPULATE THAT THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR RESPONSE IS, HEY, WE AGREE TO TAKE THIS, BUT WE HAVE THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT AN OFFICIAL, NOT BECAUSE ANYONE CAN SAY WE CAME AND TALK TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND, YOU KNOW, GET THAT ANSWER.

BUT IT'S GOT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OFFICIAL THAN THAT.

LIKE, COME TO CITY COUNCIL OR SOMETHING ELSE, ASK FOR THAT WATER.

I'M JUST AFRAID YOU PUT THE SECOND LINE IN.

THERE'S NO CONTRACT ON THE FIRST LINE.

IT'S ALREADY THAT WAS YEARS AGO.

AND THEN THAT CAN BE USED FOR SERVICING SOMEBODY ELSE OUTSIDE OF OUR ETJ THAT IS JUST TRYING TO SKIRT OUR ORDINANCES.

BWA DOES NOT SKIRT THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

NO, NO.

I'M TALKING ABOUT GOING FORWARD.

LIKE IF A SUBDIVISION WANTS TO GO IN RIGHT NORTH OF US AND WE TELL THEM NO, AND THEY COME BACK TO YOU BWA AND SAY, OK, ANGLETON SAID, NO, CAN WE GET WATER? [INAUDIBLE] ADJACENT TO YOUR CITY OF ANGLETON CITY, WHY NOT WILL NOT SUPPLY WATER TO THEM WITHOUT THE CITY OF ANGLETON SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT? WHY? WHY NOT? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I DON'T WANT TO COMPETE AGAINST THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

WELL, IS IT IS IT IN A CONTRACT SOMEWHERE? SIR, IS IT ANYWHERE IN LEGAL DOCUMENTATION? SO IT'S JUST A HANDSHAKE DEAL THAT WE'RE GETTING.

THAT'S JUST THE PRACTICE WE'VE HAD SINCE 1988.

BUT IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND REPLACES YOU, THEY MAY CHANGE THEIR MIND, POSSIBLE BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL OTHER GENERAL MANAGERS PRIOR TO ME, AND THEY EVERYBODY'S TAKING THE SAME STEP.

OUR BOARD, OUR BOARD HAS TO APPROVE ANYBODY.

SO I GUARANTEE YOU IF [INAUDIBLE] SITS THERE ON OUR BOARD, IT MAKES IT'S LOUD ENOUGH.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PASS IT.

THEY'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU, [INAUDIBLE] AND WE MAY NEED TO RELOOK AT OUR CONTRACTS.

BUT YEAH, BWA HAS NEVER, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, SOLD WATER TO AN OUTSIDER, SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A MEMBER OF A CITY WITHOUT GOING TO THE BOARD, SO ALL THE CITY COUNCILS.

WELL, I SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED A WHILE AGO YOU SAID SOMEBODY, A COUPLE OF DEVELOPERS HAVE ALREADY COME TO YOU ASKING YOU FOR WATER AS WELL.

SO I'M JUST I'M THROWING IT OUT THERE.

WELL, THAT'S MY CONCERN.

THEY'RE GOING TO WATER IT STATES IN THE CONTRACT BEFORE I CAN SELL RESERVED WATER I HAVE TO GO.

I HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM EACH MEMBER CITY.

IT'S IN THE CONTRACT THAT BEFORE WE CAN SELL WATER TO EVEN THIS HALF MILLION GALLONS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A RATCHETING TYPE THING.

THERE'S ONLY TWO WAYS TO GET THE WATER WANTED TO BE RATCHETED FOR NEWS.

THE OTHER ONE IS FOR FOR BWA TO GET THE CONSENT OF EACH MEMBER CITY IN ORDER TO SELL THAT WATER.

SO THERE'S NO WAY WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THE CONTRACT THERE, BUT I CAN'T SELL WATER OR NOBODY CAN SELL [INAUDIBLE] WATER WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE CITY.

IS ALL YOUR WATER STORED IN THE GROUND STORAGE OR ELEVATED? EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN GROUND STORAGE, WE HAVE $10 MILLION.

WE HAVE A WE HAVE A $600000 GALLON CLEAR, WELL, A NINE HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLON CLEAR WELL AND A $10 MILLION GALLON STORAGE TANK AT THE FACILITY AT THE PLANT.

OKAY, SO THERE IS CAPACITY TO STORE OUR WATER, THERE IS CAPACITY TO STORE WATER, CORRECT.

JUST ASKING BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE RESERVES AND THEN IT STAYS IN THERE, THEN IS THERE ANOTHER COST OF HAVING TO BUILD MORE STORAGE.

WE TURN THAT WATER OVER DAILY.

IT JUST IT TURNED OVER DAILY.

WE MOVE ABOUT 11 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

WE GOT A LITTLE OVER 11 MILLION GALLONS THERE.

AND IF IF WE HAD THE EXTRA AT ONE POINT FIVE MILLION IN RESERVE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN LIKE MAYOR PEREZ SAYS THE DROUGHT HITS AND WE WEREN'T USING ALL OF OUR ONE POINT FIVE WATER.

ARE WE ENTITLED TO THAT WATER, OR ARE YOU GOING TO CUT US OFF TO SAVE WATER FOR EVERYONE ELSE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUR RESERVED WATER.

THE RESERVED WATER IS THAT RESERVED WATER UNTIL YOU CALL, BUT ONCE YOU CALL, IT GOES TO TAKE [INAUDIBLE] PAY.

SO IF YOU SIT HERE AND YOU CALL AND IT WAS IN RESERVE AND YOU LET US KNOW, AND I NOTIFIED MY BOARD THAT THIS IS HAPPENING AT THAT POINT, IT LEAVES TO BE IN THE RESERVE.

IT GOES TO TAKE [INAUDIBLE] PAY.

SO YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT EVERY DAY.

GOING FORWARD, IT WON'T EVER GO BACK TO RESERVE.

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OK, WELL, THEY'RE SET UP DOWN THERE.

THEY MANUFACTURE THE WATER.

THEY'RE SET UP TO BE MANUFACTURED AND WHAT YOU AND IT'S JUST A DECISION THAT EACH CITY HAS TO MAKE.

DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO THIS FROM HERE ON OUT OR NOT, YOU KNOW.

AND SO IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF HEAD SCRATCHING AND PONDERING, WHICH I'LL SAY IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN JUST THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT BEFORE WE CAN COME UP.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK, DONE THE LEGWORK TO COME BACK HERE AND TELL US THAT WE HAVE WATER AVAILABLE BECAUSE I AGONIZED.

I AGONIZED OVER IT.

I WASN'T HAPPY WITH THAT.

I WANTED TO FIND OUT IF WE COULD GET MORE.

WE PUT A PUT A PUT A LITTLE LINE IN DOWN THERE.

WE SPENT SOME MONEY FOR THE LINE IN.

SO WE PUT THAT SOUTHERN PLAIN SOUTHERN PRESSURE DOWN AND WE DEVELOPED THIS NORTHERN FRESH PLAIN RUN AT A HIGHER PRESSURE SO WE COULD GET MORE WATER THIS WAY.

I'M NOT HERE TO DE-RANK PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M.

BUT MY DECISION TODAY WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THEIR DECISION THEN.

SO BUT WE'RE HERE, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.

AND WE WOULD.

AND IF THE CITY WOULD HAVE SAID, DON'T DO IT, WE DEFINITELY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

I MEAN, WE HAD TO COME TO Y'ALL AND IT WOULD THEY LOOKED AT A COST SAVING BY DOING THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT SOLD IT.

THERE WAS INITIALLY, INITIALLY, INITIALLY ONE DOLLAR BONDS.

THE BONDS WERE PUT OUT.

IT ENDED UP BEING TWENTY NINE CENTS PER THOUSAND.

CALLS SAYING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING WITH THE MEMBER CITIES WOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING MORE WITHOUT ROSENBERG.

AND EVERYBODY LOOKED AT THAT AND THEY LOOKED AND THEY DECIDED, WELL, WE WANT TO SAVE THAT MONEY.

LIKE I SAID, LAKE JACKSON IS LAKE JACKSON FREEPORT.

THEY SAVED OVER ONE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

I REMEMBER THAT ONE BECAUSE THEY WERE THE BIGGEST Y'ALL ARE RIGHT BEHIND THEM.

SO GENTLEMEN, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE 1987 CONTRACT EVERY TIME YOU SAY CONTRACT? YES.

HAS ANYBODY SO.

SO DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY WHEN YOU SAID YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T FIND IT? NO.

IN 2013 YEAH.

WHEN BWA WENT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE SALE OF WATER TO THE CITY OF ROSENBURG, I CANNOT FIND THE RECORDS FROM THAT MEETING.

SO I'M NOT SURE.

WELL, WHILE I'VE GOT YOU UP THERE, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN SHOOT THE CITY SECRETARY A COPY OF THE 1987 CONTRACT? WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT.

SO WHOEVER'S GOT IT, THE 1987, I DON'T HAVE IT.

I HAVE THE 87 CONTRACT.

YOU SENT IT TO ME.

BUT THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, I THINK IT WAS THIRTY YEARS, WASN'T IT? THIRTY YEARS, RIGHT? I DO HAVE IT.

SORRY I DO HAVE IT.

THE ONE WITH THE CITY [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT, SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? GOOD QUESTION, [INAUDIBLE] FOR SOME DIRECTION.

I CAN PROBABLY GO ANOTHER HOUR WITH THESE GUYS.

I MEAN, IS IT POINTED OUT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE AT THE EDGE OF HAVING WHAT WE NEED OR NOT.

AND SO SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT RUN THROUGH MY MIND IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A WET YEAR THIS YEAR, SO WATER CONSUMPTION WAS LOW.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THEN WE NEED TO GO INTO CONTINGENCY AND DROP WATER RESTRICTIONS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS IF WE DON'T.

THAT'S WHY I REALLY THINK GETTING OUR ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS AND OUR GROUNDWATER STORAGE TANKS AND STORING MORE WATER HERE, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE NOT WE DIDN'T EVEN TAKE ALL OF OUR WATER, YOU KNOW.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME CAPACITY IN CURRENTLY, AND IT IS VERY UNUSUAL FOR ANGLETON NOT TO TAKE

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OFF THEIR WATER, RIGHT? THAT'S PRETTY MUCH DEAD ON LAKE JACKSON FREEPORT HISTORICALLY PAID FOR TWO MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

[INAUDIBLE] RIGHT.

THEY'VE BEEN SUBSIDIZING YOUR PAYMENTS.

YOU SHOULD THANK THEM FOR IT.

WE HAVE, THEY'VE GOT A HALF MILLION FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND IN RESERVE THAT THEY'VE BEEN PAYING FULL PRICE FOR ALL THIS TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] IN THE NEXT JOHN'S IDEA.

FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND NOW, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND NOW I'M PROBABLY MORE OPEN TO THE 1.5 IN RESERVE.

THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].

AND BUT I DO LIKE THE CONDITIONS THAT JOHN HAS BROUGHT FORTH TO.

I MEAN, I WASN'T A PART OF ANY PREVIOUS NEGOTIATIONS, AND I'M SURE PEOPLE THOUGHT THEIR WAY THROUGH IT AND HAD THEIR REASONS FOR MAKING THEIR VOTE.

BUT IT'S PRETTY PAINFUL TO WATCH THAT WATER FLOW RIGHT THROUGH OUR CITY AND UP TO ROSENBERG, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FROM IT.

THAT'S JUST.

IF I HAD TO GUESS IT WAS BECAUSE THE WORD SAVINGS WAS MENTIONED.

IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, BUT IT'S JUST REALLY PAINFUL THAT WE CAN'T TAP IN TO LITERALLY A PIPE THAT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH OUR CITY.

THAT'S HARD TO IMAGINE A LITTLE BIT, BUT.

SO WOULD IT BE INAPPROPRIATE JUDITH TO SINCE IT'S BEEN 37 YEARS SINCE OUR FIRST AGREEMENT TO MODIFY THAT? SO THE CONTRACT SAYS IT'S GOOD FOR 40 YEARS, OK? AND IF IT WAS EXECUTED IN 87, WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS ON IT.

DOES IT MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T RENEGOTIATE, PARTICULARLY SINCE IT'S SUCH A LONG TERM CONTRACT? IF WE'RE GOING TO INVEST MORE? YEAH.

SO THE REASON THAT THIS WAS PROMPTED WAS BECAUSE I DID RECEIVE THE AMENDMENT OR SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER AND DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THIS ONE.

SO I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM BOTH, AND I'M SURE I WOULD HAVE SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO REVISE.

TO PROTECT THE CITY IN THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, I JUST WANT AND I BELIEVE IN THE INTEGRITY OF THESE MEN THAT ARE BEFORE US.

I'M NOT QUESTIONING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

I JUST WANT US TO BE HAVE A CONTINUAL GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.

AND BE HONEST, THE NEXT TIME THIS COMES UP, YOU TWO GENTLEMEN MIGHT NOT BE STANDING THERE AND WE SIX UP HERE MAY NOT BE SITTING HERE.

SO BUT IF THERE'S SOME GUIDELINES THAT I HOPE THAT IF WE AS, SIX PEOPLE UP HERE CAN ACT WITH FORESIGHT AND WISDOM INTO THE FUTURE AND AT LEAST HELP US TO CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHENEVER IT HAS TO BE CROSSED.

AND THEN AT LEAST WE CAN ACT OR KNOW THAT WE ACTED IN GOOD FAITH WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

NOT THAT THOSE GENTLEMEN OR WOMEN WHO EVER WERE ON THE CITY COUNCIL THEN DID.

BUT I THINK IT'S JUST WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE YOU REALLY OPENLY TALKING A LOT OF GROWTH.

AND I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH THE STATISTICS THAT MR. THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE YOU ALL.

I MEAN, JUST THERE'S SO MUCH GROWTH IN THE HOUSTON AREA.

IT'S JUST IT'S ALMOST PREPARATION OF THE INEVITABILITY THAT'S COMING WITH GROWTH.

SO AND I THINK WE HAVE TO.

MY LAST THOUGHT IS WE HAVE TO MY GOAL ANYWAY, IT'S MY PERSPECTIVE MAY NOT SHARE WITH EVERYBODY UP HERE, BUT OF PROTECTING WHAT I THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST.

SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

IS THERE A MOTION, MAYBE TO ACCEPT SOME FUTURE QUANTITIES AND ALSO MAYBE WORK ON REVISING AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD PROVIDE THOSE MECHANISMS FOR APPROVAL TO CHANGES.

WE LOOK LIKE WE ALSO HERE AT THE CITY OF ANGLETON, WE NEED TO CONSIDER OUR GROUNDWATER SOURCES, ALSO.

OUR GROUNDWATER SOURCES ARE MUCH MORE INEXPENSIVE THAN SURFACE WATER SOURCES.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

IN ROUND NUMBERS.

AND I DON'T KNOW EVEN IF THE WELL WOULD EVEN MAKE IF WE WERE TO MAKE A WELL OVER ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN.

WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $4 MILLION DOLLARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAVE A WELL IN PLACE NEW PUMPING PLANT WE COULD BE IN BUSINESS PUMPING OUR OWN WATER OUT OF THE GROUND AND AT WHATEVER COST THAT IS.

WHEREAS WHEN YOU COMMIT TO WHEN THE CITY COMMITS TO THE BWA, THAT'S ADD [INAUDIBLE].

YOU DON'T QUIT PAYING THAT MONEY.

AND I KNOW THE REASON THE WATER COSTS WHAT IT DOES IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS TO PRODUCE THE WATER.

NOTHING AGAINST.

BUT YOU'RE BEING FAIR YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE A BANK DOWN THERE.

BUT THAT'S ALSO A DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAD TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.

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DO WE GO LOOK AT ANOTHER WELL, AT A PLACE THAT WE HAD A WELL AND SO.

ALSO YEAH.

AND I KNOW RIGHT NOW THEY PUT SOME STATIONED AROUND CITY OF ANGLETON.

YES SIR, AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE UNKNOWNS RIGHT NOW.

SO SO WE JUST NEED SOME DIRECTION TO THE STAFF, THOUGH.

I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

IF WE MOVE FORWARD AND I MEAN, RIGHT, WELL, HOLD ON.

I STILL HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS.

HE SAYS $1.30 PER THOUSAND.

SO ONE POINT FIVE, THAT'S 1950.

AND THAT'S PAID EVERY DAY.

I'M SORRY SIR WHAT? ONE POINT FIVE MILLION.

SO A DOLLAR THIRTY PER THOUSAND GALLONS THAT COMES OUT TO NINETEEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS.

CORRECT.

THAT'S PAID EVERY DAY.

YES SIR.

SO I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A YEAR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

FOR RESERVE.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE IN CONSIDERATION.

JOHN, I KNOW YOU LIKE THAT NUMBER.

OH, YEAH.

BUT IT'S ALSO IT'S IN A RESERVE.

WE DON'T.

AS LONG AS IT'S IN RESERVE IT'S JUST RESERVED FOR US, WE DON'T PAY FOR IT UNTIL WE TAKE IT RIGHT.

YOU HAVE TO PAY THE DEBT SERVICE.

THE DEBT SERVICE.

YOU DO NOT PAY O&M OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE PORTION OF IT.

SO THAT DOLLAR 30 WAS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? IS THE DEBT SERVICE? CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT COST PER DAY TO HAVE I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF TAKING ANY EXTRA THOUSAND.

YOU JUST PAY IT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT IN THE FUTURE.

I KIND OF THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, HONESTLY, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU COUNCILMAN BOOTH, IF WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THESE WATER WELLS BACK UP AND RUNNING, IT WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT.

IT WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE FINANCIAL SENSE FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON TO GO AFTER THAT WATER FIRST, THEN GO BACK TO BWA.

IF IN THE CASE WE CAN'T GET ONE OF THOSE WORKING, THEN GO TO THEM.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS ONE BEFORE THAT ONE, AND IT COULD BE VERY COSTLY FOR THE CITY IF WE DO THIS.

THE DEBT SERVICE IS A DOLLAR THIRTY FOUR CENTS.

SO IT'S EVEN SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE, CHRIS OR JEFF OR JOHN PETERSON, IF SOMEBODY CAN GIVE ME A TIMELINE? WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THESE WELLS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT? WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH THE MISSOURI COUNTY GROUND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

SO WE RECEIVED AN ACTUAL STUDY DONE WHICH YOU HAD REFERENCED IN YOUR EMAIL LAST WEEK WHEN TALKING WITH SOMEBODY FROM TEXAS WATER YES, I'VE GOT THAT IN.

WE'VE LOOKED AT IT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND I'VE GOT A MEETING TOMORROW AT 10:00 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH MISSOURI COUNTY GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

SO ONCE I GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THEM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT, HAVE SOME MORE CLARITY ON IT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

I'VE ALSO GIVEN Y'ALL ALL THE INFORMATION, THE PREVIOUS THINGS ABOUT HOW TO SET IT UP, WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.

NOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO REMEMBER AND IT'S BEEN BRIEFLY DISCUSSED IS THE POTENTIAL WITH NOW THEY'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT SUBSIDENCE IN BRAZORIA COUNTY, SO IT COULD BE KIND OF MOVING FORWARD A SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT WHERE IT WILL LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF WELL WATER YOU CAN PUMP.

THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MOVE AS FAST AS WE CAN.

THE REASON WHY BECAUSE I WAS WE JUST STARTED HERE AS A CITY ENGINEER IN 2012.

SO I WAS KIND OF HERE WHEN ALL THAT WAS DECISIONS WERE MADE, DECISIONS WERE MADE ONE BECAUSE OF THE COST SAVINGS, WHICH I DISCUSSED.

THE OTHER ONE WAS BECAUSE YOU COULD PRODUCE, WELL WATER AT A MUCH CHEAPER RATE THAN YOU CAN BUY SURFACE WATER.

THE RATE'S STILL THE SAME BETWEEN THE TWO, SO YOU GIVE YOURSELF A BIGGER PROFIT MARGIN BETWEEN THE TWO IF YOU PUMP MORE WELL, WATER.

RIGHT? ANGLETON DOESN'T USE VERY MUCH, WELL WATER, YOU JUST MAKE IT UP ON YOUR VERY DRY.

YOU KNOW YOUR AUGUST, YOUR JULY'S.

SO YOU DON'T REALLY YOU DON'T USE A WHOLE LOT OF, WELL WATER.

SO THE IDEA WAS IT WAS BEFORE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT WAS COMING IN, YOU HAD THIS BIG MASSIVE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT AND EXPONENTIAL RATE.

BUT THAT WAS WHAT THE IDEA WAS FOR COUNCIL WAS, YOU KNOW, HEY, LOOK, WE CAN PRODUCE WELL WATER CHEAPER IF WE NEEDED TO.

AND THEN ALSO.

THE COST SAVINGS.

SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

[02:15:02]

SO LET'S JUST SAY WE GO THE WELL WAY.

I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF UPFRONT COST TO DO THE TESTING, TO DO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WELLS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, OVER THE HORIZON, WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT REDUCED COSTS BECAUSE WE'RE TREATING IT OURSELVES AND IT'S A LOT CHEAPER.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE PREPARED TO.

YOU KNOW HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO THE TESTING AND DIG THE WELLS ASSUMING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS, JUST LIKE JOHN PETERSON SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ARSENIC COME OUT OF THE FREEDOM PARK WELL.

IT'S THE ONLY WELL IN TOWN WE HAVE ARSENIC COMING OUT OF, BUT GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF ARSENIC IN THE CITY.

BUT SO THE THE WELL THAT WE HAVE THAT'S PRODUCING ARSENIC IS POTENTIALLY CLOSE TO THE OTHER SITES WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN AND WE'RE TALKING ONE, WELL, WE'RE NOT TALKING SIX WELLS.

SO FROM A FINANCIAL ASPECT, THOUGH, YOU WOULD BE DEBT SERVICING TO BUILD THOSE WELLS MORE THAN LIKELY OR TO DEVELOP THAT WELL ON THE GROUND STORAGE OR SOMETHING RIGHT NEXT TO IT AS OPPOSED TO YOU INSTANTLY TURN THIS ON AND YOU'RE PAYING THE DEBT SERVICE TO THEM INSTEAD IMMEDIATELY.

AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL NOT GOING TO BE USING THAT WATER.

BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO LIKE FREEDOM PARK.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT A FIFTY THOUSAND GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK, WHICH IS CLEARLY INSUFFICIENT.

SO TO ME, IT WOULDN'T BE BUILDING A WELL, YOU'D ALSO BE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, MILLION GALLONS, HALF A MILLION GALLONS OR WHATEVER.

SO ADDING THAT COST TO SERVICE AS OPPOSED TO PAYING FOR THE WATER RATE RIGHT THEN AND THERE IMPACTING THE CITIZENS IMMEDIATELY FOR WATER, THEY'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO BE USING, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO PASS THAT COST RIGHT ON OVER TO THEM.

I MEAN, THE OTHER THING I HEARD IS, YOU KNOW, SO YOU COULD DO FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS NOW AND MAYBE IN FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING WHEN THEY'RE THERE'S GOING TO BE 12 MILLION GALLONS OUT THERE, RIGHT? SO YOU KNOW.

THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

SO YOU PLAY YOUR BET AND SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEED MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN ASSUMING THAT THINGS ARE ON SCHEDULE, THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO FINANCE THAT RIGHT? SO MY QUESTION, JOHN, REAL QUICK.

FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE GALLONS A DAY, HOW MANY WATER CONNECTIONS IS THAT JUST BALLPARK? AGAIN, MAYOR, THE LIMITING FACTOR THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, ONCE THE SECOND TANK COMES DOWN OVER ON SOUTH SIDE DRIVE, THAT'LL BE IN THE NEXT ONE IS YOUR BOOSTER PUMP PAST.

SO WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE WATER RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO.

IT'S JUST THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING.

TRYING TO CAPTURE THAT RIGHT NOW WHILE IT'S STILL AVAILABLE.

THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS THAT WATER IS AVAILABLE NOW AND IT'S ANOTHER CUSTOMER.

SO IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT THE NEXT ONE, IS IT GOING TO CONSIDER WHAT IS IT GOING TO HELP US MAKE A DECISION ON THIS ITEM IF WE KNEW WHAT FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS WITH ABOVE STORAGE CAPACITY GET US? WELL, SO I'D RATHER WAIT TILL THE NEXT ITEM TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE SO I'LL JUST SAY, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELEVATED STORAGE CAPACITY, WE HAVE TO THINK NOW AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE.

AND SO IN MY MIND, YOU GOT TO GO A DIRECTION TO DO THAT PERMANENTLY.

THAT'S A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.

BUT IF YOU INCREASE ELEVATED STORAGE, HOW DO YOU FILL IT UP? AND IF WE'RE ALREADY AT CAPACITY, ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO FILL IT UP? SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.

I GET WHAT MAYOR IS SAYING.

YEAH, YEAH.

IT MAKES SENSE THAT IF WE TOOK THE EXTRA FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND AND WE WERE ABLE TO STORE IT IN ANOTHER STORAGE TANK, HOW MANY CONNECTIONS WOULD THAT GIVE US? AND IF YOU WANT TO WAIT AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION ON TWENTY ONE, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

BUT THAT KIND OF TO ME GOES ALONG WITH WHAT OUR CONSULTING ENGINEER CAN ANSWER OUR QUESTION IF WE POSE A DIRECT [INAUDIBLE] IF WE WERE TO GET FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS OF WATER AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS AT A MAX CAPACITY WHAT WOULD FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS, GIVE US IN CONNECTIONS.

I KNOW WE HAVE OTHER LIMITATIONS.

WE HAVE BOOSTER PUMP LIMITATIONS.

WE HAVE ELEVATED STORAGE LIMITATIONS, WE HAVE GROUND STORAGE LIMITATIONS, WE HAVE PIPING LIMITATIONS.

BUT IF EVERYTHING WAS IN A PERFECT WORLD, WHAT COULD WE GET WITH FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS? THAT'S A 100 ELEVATED STORAGE TANK GETS ONE HUNDRED PER CONNECTION, BUT ON YOUR WATER SUPPLY.

SO SAY FOR EVERY THOUSAND, GPM IS ADDITIONAL 2700.

[02:20:06]

FOR EVERY SO I MEAN, YOU'RE INCREASING QUITE A BIT.

SO LOTS OF CONNECTIONS, BUT YOU'VE GOT OTHER LIMITATIONS.

BUT YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS ADVANTAGEOUS NOW TO SAY FIVE HUNDRED STOP THE DISCUSSIONS, THEN WE KNOW FOR TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED FOR EVERY WHATEVER THOUSAND YOU SAID, WOW, THAT CAN GIVE US TEN THOUSAND HOMES.

WELL, I'M SURE THIS COUNCIL IS NOT LOOKING AT SITTING AT TEN THOUSAND HOMES, BUT THAT AT LEAST GIVES US TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OR 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THE CAPABILITY TO GET THERE.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, MAYBE GO FOR THE FIVE HUNDRED AND THEN YOU HIT YOUR BETS ON [INAUDIBLE] DOWN THE ROAD OR THAT NO ONE ELSE BUYS UP THIS RESERVE.

AND MAYBE WE GET ANOTHER FIVE HUNDRED OR SOMETHING AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? OR SOME OF OUR WATER WELLS COME ONLINE, RIGHT? IT'S ROUGHLY WHEN YOU RUN THE NUMBERS, ABOUT SIXTEEN HUNDRED MORE CONNECTIONS.

SIXTEEN HUNDRED MORE.

I DON'T HAVE MY CALCULATOR.

SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

I DON'T HAVE ALL MY HOLDINGS HERE.

ALL RIGHT COUNCIL, HEALTHY DISCUSSION, DON'T YOU JUST LOVE THE GROWING PAINS? [LAUGHTER] WE CAN HAVE MORRIS COMING BACK MORE OFTEN AND RONNIE TOO, SO SPEAKERS] JOHN REALLY LIKES YOU I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE PICKING UP ON THAT.

HE LIKES YOUR PRESENCE.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DISCUSS WITH BWA ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS.

I MEAN, I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THAT BEFORE BECAUSE YOU ARE OUR WATER SUPPLIER AND WE ARE AT YOUR MERCY AND IT'S OBVIOUS WHENEVER THERE'S A CATASTROPHE THAT GOES ON, HOW MUCH WE'RE AT YOUR MERCY.

SO THAT'S WHY.

IF YOU WOULD KINDLY RESCHEDULE YOUR MEETINGS, IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO GET HERE.

[LAUGHTER] DO YOU HAVE TWO MEETINGS A MONTH? NO JUST ONE.

WE DO.

WE CAN PUT YOU ON THE SECOND ONE.

WE'RE ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH.

WELL, COME ON TO THE SECOND TUESDAY.

WE'LL BE HERE, USUALLY TILL MIDNIGHT.

[LAUGHTER] AND NOW HERE'S THE OTHER THING TOO.

I JUST THOUGHT OF WE'RE JUST.

3 HOURS PAST MY BED TIME.

WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS EVENING WITH US.

ANY TIME Y'ALL NEED ME.

I THINK SO.

AND I KNOW GUYS WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT JUST THIS.

BUT YOU KNOW, I'M ALSO THINKING FUTURE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE WOULD LOVE TO EXPAND OUR COMMERCIAL BASE, WHETHER IT'S SOME SORT OF LIGHT INDUSTRY.

WE'VE GOT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO.

AND THIS IS JUST MORE FOR YOU GUYS.

LET'S SAY NEXT YEAR WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY COME TO US AND NO IT'S NOT THE CRYSTAL BALL AND THEY SAY, WE WANT TO USE HEAVY WATER.

Y'ALL GOT PEOPLE KNOCKING AT THE DOOR RIGHT NOW WANTING THAT 2000 GALLONS.

I MEAN, AS SOON AS YOU LEAVE US, YOU'RE GOING TO GO FIND SOMEBODY.

IS SOMEBODY ANOTHER CITY.

I'M NOT.

I'M NOT CHASING ANYBODY.

OKAY WE DO GET CALLS REGULARLY, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE PLACES THAT WE WOULDN'T SERVE.

WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR SISTER CITIES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE WITHIN THE.

SISTER CITIES.

ALL THESE YEARS.

WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO CITIES GO UP ON THEIR CONTRACTS IN ALL THESE YEARS.

TILL THIS YEAR, OYSTER CREEK WENT UP.

THEY WERE DEVELOPING ALL THOSE WORK CAMPS DOWN THERE.

THEY WENT FROM SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND GALLONS TO ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND GALLONS A DAY.

AND BRAZORIA, THEY WENT UP TO THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND FROM THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND A DAY.

AND THEN TWO YEARS LATER, THEY FOUND THEIR LEAK.

NOW THEY'RE BACK DOWN TO AROUND 300,00.

I'M JUST WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS Y'ALL HAVEN'T HEARD ANY BUZZ LATELY IN THE LAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS, SOMEBODY KNOCKING ON ANOTHER CITY'S DOOR LOOKING FOR HEAVY WATER USAGE.

I KNOW IF TONIGHT, IF WE ONLY GO TO THE FIVE HUNDRED.

HOW LONG IS THAT 2000 GOING TO BE SITTING OUT THERE BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S.

I'M HOPING TO STEP THERE BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE THE MOST POTENTIAL FOR GROWTH? THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING AS WELL.

WE DO.

CITY OF GOING DOWNHILL.

THE QUALITY OF THE WATER JUST KEPT GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

AND TO THE POINT, THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE KEEPING CHLORINE RESIDUAL IN THEIR SYSTEM SINCE THEY'VE GONE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT BWA THEY'VE GOT ABOVE A ONE POINT ZERO THROUGH THE WHOLE TOWN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE LITTLE DEAD END.

AND THEY'RE PUTTING A FLUSH VALVE IN THERE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

AND THEY'RE HAPPY, AS CAN BE.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M GETTING AT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL AND WE DON'T EITHER, BUT WHO KNOWS THAT POTENTIAL PRIZED COMPANY CAN COME TO TOWN? RIGHT? IT COULD BE HERE FOR TWO, THREE OR FOUR YEARS UP TO 10 YEARS TO Y'ALL NEED IT.

BUT THEN AGAIN, SOMEBODY MAY COME TO ONE OF THESE OTHER CITIES AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, LITTLE TOWN OF TAYLOR THERE IN COMPETING FOR A MICROCHIP PRODUCTION PLANT THAT'S

[02:25:03]

GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO USE SEVERAL I THINK ABOUT 10 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF WATER.

WOW.

THEY'VE GOT THE POWER.

THERE'S A BIG POWER TRANSMISSION MAIN GOING THROUGH THERE.

SO THEY'VE GOT THE POWER IT'S GOING TO EMPLOY EIGHTEEN HUNDRED PEOPLE AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ON EIGHTEEN HUNDRED ACTUALLY AT THE PLANT AND THOUSANDS [INAUDIBLE] OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD VERY EASILY HAPPEN HERE OR ONE OF THESE OTHER CITIES.

YEAH, BECAUSE I'M WATCHING THIS HIGH TRANSMISSION NEW INSTALLATION LINE THAT'S COME IN FROM THE WEST END GOING RIGHT ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, HEADING NORTH.

SO SOMEBODY MAY KNOW SOMETHING SOMEWHERE FOR THIS BRAND NEW HIGH TRANSMISSION LINE COMING IN.

YOU KNOW, Y'ALL SITTING HERE, Y'ALL GOT 521, YOU GOT 35, YOU GOT 288 BUSINESS.

Y'ALL GOT THE HIGHWAYS AND YOU GOT THE RUN GOING TOWARDS HOUSTON.

YES.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO.

[INAUDIBLE], SAID ANGLETON HAVE THE HIGHEST GROWTH POSSIBILITY OF ANY CITY AROUND HERE.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

I KNOW WE GOT AN ITEM HERE.

WE GOT TO GET SOME ACTION ON, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR DISCUSSION AND YOUR HONESTY COMING UP.

AND MORRIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SERVING AS OUR BWA REP.

WE DON'T TELL YOU THIS OFTEN, BUT THANK YOU.

THANKLESS JOB.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

OH YEAH, I COULDN'T RUN FOR OFFICE LAST MONTH OR Y'ALL NEED TO GO AHEAD AND REAPPOINT MORRIS.

WE JUST DID.

YEAH, I NEED SOMEBODY TO SEND ME THE PAPERWORK.

YEAH, WE DID THE THING AT THE LAST MEETING ACTUALLY.

I SAID, I THOUGHT WE DID THAT.

I THINK WE SENT YOU A SMOKE SIGNAL.

YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT.

JOHN OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

HE'S GOING THAT WAS AN EXTRA MEETING.

[LAUGHTER] MR. MAYOR, YES, SIR.

I MOVE THAT WE INSTRUCT CITY STAFF TO NEGOTIATE WITH BWA ON THE PURCHASE OF THE FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLON EXTRA WATER CAPACITY TO FALL IN THE CURRENT LINE THAT WE HAVE COMING FROM BWA ANGLETON.

I'LL SAY AND WHAT ABOUT RENEGOTIATE OR LOOK AT CONTRACT.

START THAT PROCESS, YEAH, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REVIEW AND CONSULT TO FIGURE OUT IF WE NEED TO REDO THE CONTRACT, WHICH I'LL SAY YES.

I'LL SECOND IT.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I THINK THEY CAN PROBABLY FURNISH YOU.

YOUR ATTORNEY CAN PROBABLY FURNISH OUR ATTORNEY, YOUR CONSTITUTION OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE THAT SET YOU UP AND ANY MORE DISCUSSION, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE'VE BEEN AT THE TABLE FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF HOURS.

ALL RIGHT, GUYS.

WOULD YOU ALL LIKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL GO TO HAVE A BRIEF ADJOURNMENT.

YEAH, RECESS 8:28.

ALL RIGHT THANKS FOR EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE.

AS A SIDE CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU, GUYS.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 20 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN AGREEMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS INC FOR

[20. Discussion and possible action on an agreement for professional services with Freese and Nichols, Inc. for the Oyster Creek WWTP Operation and Maintenance checklists]

THE OYSTER CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE CHECKLIST.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOM ON THE LINE FROM FREESE AND NICHOLS.

JEFF.

SO AND THAT'S DUSTIN POPE AT THE PODIUM THERE.

OH, OK, DID YOU HEAR THAT CHRIS, YOU GOT SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE LINE.

JUST UNMUTE, SIR.

SO LET ME GIVE AN INTRO.

WHILE I WORK ON THIS.

SO JUST PART OF PROFESSIONALIZING OUR ORGANIZATION, REALLY, WE HAVE CHECKLISTS THAT WERE CREATED BY OLGA AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLAYBOOK OF CONTINGENCY PLANS.

WE DON'T HAVE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

SO WE NEED THOSE THINGS FOR THE CONTINUITY OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND STAY OUT OF TROUBLE WITH TCQ.

SO THEN WE COME DOWN AND GET INSPECTED.

AND SO WE'VE ASKED FREESE AND NICHOLS, WHO WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH RECENTLY, THEY'VE HELPED US OUT WITH OUR LAB AND FIND VENDORS FOR OUR NEW LAB EQUIPMENT, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO TIK TOK ON THURSDAY MORNING.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING AWAY FROM THE BUCKET AND GETTING THESE SAMPLERS.

[02:30:06]

AND BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DEFICIENCIES WE IDENTIFIED WAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SOPS AND A PLAYBOOK FOR CONTINGENCY OPERATIONS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

JUST GOING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT.

SO JUST SOME OF THE SPECIFICS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE BIG PARTS OF THE SYSTEM, THE PUMPS, THE BLOWERS, THE SCREEN SYSTEMS GOING IN AND ANALYZING ALL THOSE SYSTEMS. SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY SOPS WHATSOEVER, YOU KNOW, OPERATING CHECKLIST TYPE GUIDELINES.

SO WHAT THIS WILL DO WILL PROVIDE CONTINUITY.

SO AS YOU GET NEW STAFF, INCREASE STAFF, MAYBE YOU CHANGE SHIFTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PLAYBOOK.

ALWAYS GO BACK TO MY ARMY DAYS.

YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAD A WHAT WE CALL A TECHNICAL MANUAL FOR OUR HUMVEE, YOU KNOW, AND IT TOLD YOU EXACTLY STEP BY STEP HOW TO MAINTAIN THAT VEHICLE.

AND WE HAVE HUMVEES THAT ARE FROM LIKE THE EIGHTIES THAT ARE STILL RUNNING TODAY.

SO KIND OF THE SAME CONCEPT HERE.

WE'RE DEVELOPING THIS O&M MANUAL.

SO OPERATIONS, CHECKLISTS, SO ACTUAL PROCEDURES ON START UP OPERATIONS CHECKS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO GET YOU LONGEVITY ON YOUR EQUIPMENT, ON YOUR INVESTMENT.

THAT'S WHAT THIS REALLY IS.

AND THEN SAME THING ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE, YOU KNOW, RECURRING CYCLIC TYPE EVENTS TO HAPPEN JUST LIKE YOU WOULD DO ON YOUR VEHICLE.

OIL CHECK, HEY, EVERY THREE THOUSAND FOUR THOUSAND MILES KIND OF THE SAME CONCEPT, BUT I THINK YOU GET A GOOD RETURN ON THE WORK THAT OUR TREATMENT STAFF WOULD DO HERE.

IS SOM ON THE LINE YET? WE THINK YOU'RE TALKING, BUT YOU'RE MUTED.

NO, THE OPPOSITE.

BUT THE ANSWER TO JOHN'S QUESTION, WHICH I KNOW HE'S GOING TO ASK IS HOW IS THIS FUNDED? GOOD QUESTION.

SO WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL AND OTHER FEES, IN WASTEWATER TREATMENT FUNDING, AND SO THERE'S FIFTY THOUSAND IN THERE.

AND SO THAT WOULD COVER THE COST OF THIS PROPOSAL SERVICE AGREEMENT.

SO THIS WAS REALLY KIND OF BUILT INTO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR THINKING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS THIS YEAR, OK, RIGHT? WHY DOES THE BUDGET AMOUNT SAY ZERO.

IT SHOULD BE IN THE PROPOSAL, THOUGH IT SAYS THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND SOMETHING.

NO, IT SAYS FUNDS REQUESTED ARE THIRTY SEVEN, BUT THE BUDGET AMOUNT IS ZERO ON THE AGENDA FORM.

SO THAT'S A CLERICAL ERROR BY THE CITY MANAGER, WHOSE PERFORMANCE REVIEW IS NOT NEXT MONTH.

[LAUGHTER] I DON'T HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT BECAUSE I GIVE FRANCES A HARD TIME ABOUT THIS.

AND THAT'S THE FIRST PLACE I JUMPED TO, AND I LOOK, NO, WE'RE NOT BUDGETED.

CHRIS SHOWS YOU WHY YOU NEED A CITY SECRETARY.

[LAUGHTER] SO I HAVE LOTS OF PROBLEMS. IS HE STILL TRYING TO GET ON CHRIS? I MEAN HE'S ON BUT I DON'T SEE HIM TALKING.

OH, MAYBE HE STEPPED AWAY NOT KNOWING WE'RE BACK AT THE TABLE.

I THINK DUSTIN HIT ALL THE HIGHLIGHTS HE TOOK CARE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR US.

AND, JEFF, YOU THINK THIS IS THUMBS UP? OK, HIGHLY, RIGHT, OK.

YOU'RE THE PUBLIC WORKS GUY.

COUNCIL.

SO I MEAN, JUST PUT IN MY TWO CENTS.

TYPICALLY, LIKE WHEN IN YOUR REFINERY OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, TYPICALLY LIKE A SAFETY PERSONNEL WOULD GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH WRITE A PROCEDURES MANUAL AND DO ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, A LEAD SAFETY PERSON COST WELL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ONE ON STAFF.

IS IT JUST OUR GENERAL? YEAH, OK.

I MEAN, I DO THINK IT'S, VERY MUCH NEEDED AS FAR AS SAFETY CONCERNS, JUST LIKE HOW WE'RE ANY OTHER RULES, REGULATIONS, GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY, OPERATING THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES IS NEEDED TO HAVE AN OPERATIONS MANUAL.

THAT WAY, THERE'S CONTINUITY FROM ONE STEP TO ANOTHER, ONE GENERATION TO THE OTHER.

YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS SAY SAFETY RULES ARE WRITTEN IN BLOOD.

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SO THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THEM IS BECAUSE SOMETHING THERE'S BEEN A MISSTEP BEFORE.

SO I THINK IT'S NEEDED AND IT'S A PRETTY DECENT VALUE.

WHAT'S A TIMELINE THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS.

ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DAYS.

SIX MONTHS? 90, 90 CALENDAR DAYS FROM [INAUDIBLE].WELL, DID SOMEBODY JOIN US? THIS IS SOM CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

OH, FINALLY, I'VE BEEN TALKING ALL THIS TIME I'VE BEEN HAVING ISSUES [LAUGHTER].

BUT I THINK CHRIS AND DUSTIN PUT IT REALLY WELL THAT REALLY ALL I HAVE TO ADD, AND I WAS GOING TO ANSWER THE LAST QUESTION THAT IS LIKE, BASICALLY, WE HAVE 90 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FREESE AND NICHOLS OR JEFF? ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, WHAT'S Y'ALLS PLEASURE.

MAYOR I MOVE THE CITY OF ANGLETON ENTER INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS INC FOR THE OYSTER CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE CHECKLISTS.

I'LL SECONDED IT.

WHO SECONDED.

GONGORA.

A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THAT MOTION CARRIES THANK YOU GUYS.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG NUMBER 21 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DELAYING THE

[21. Discussion and possible action on delaying the demolition of the existing Southside Elevated Storage Tank (EST).]

DEMOLITION OF EXISTING SOUTH SIDE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, ALSO KNOWN AS EST.

CHRIS.

SO THIS WAS IDENTIFIED TO ME AS A HEY, CAN WE DO THIS? SO WE ASKED FREESE AND NICHOLS TO CONSIDER KEEPING THE TANK ONLINE.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S IN THE CONTRACT THAT'S FUNDED TO DEMO IT BY MAY OF NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS THE END OF THE CONTRACT.

AND SO IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT ONLINE, WE CAN CHANGE ORDER THAT OUT OF THE CONTRACT.

IT'S, I THINK, SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

BUT THERE'S SOME IF ANDS AND BUTS TO ALL THIS AND SO I'M GOING TO LET FREESE AND NICHOLS.

BUT I REALLY WOULD HOPE IF WE DECIDED TO TAKE THE RISK AND KEEP IT ONLINE THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD A NORTHERN SOUTH OR NORTHERN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST GIVING OURSELVES A TEMPORARY BUMP UP IN ELEVATED STORAGE CAPACITY.

THAT'S ALL THAT'S IT.

DUSTIN POPE FREESE AND NICHOLS.

SO INTRODUCE MYSELF.

SORRY FOR LAST TIME.

I'M THE CURRENT ENGINEER FOR THE NEW SOUTH SIDE TANK.

SO WE DID HAVE OUR TEAM LOOK AT THE EXISTING TANKS SO JUST THE HISTORY BEHIND THE EXISTING TANK.

WE STARTED THIS PROJECT AS A REHAB PROJECT FOR THE HALF MILLION GALLON TANK AND UPON INVESTIGATION.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE PUSHED AT DOING A NEW TANK AND NOT JUST A NEW TANK, BUT WE UPSIZED BY TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND GALLONS, WHICH FROM THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY.

THE CITY NEEDED AT THE TIME AN ADDITIONAL HALF MILLION GALLONS FOR FUTURE CONDITIONS BASED ON THE GROWTH OF THE CITY.

SO I DID HAVE A MODELING TEAM GO BACK IN.

SO WE TOOK OUR INFRA WORKS MODEL AND JUST WITH THE EXISTING NORTH SIDE TANK AND ONLY THE NEW SOUTH SIDE POINT SEVEN FIVE MILLION GALLON.

SO ON YOUR EXISTING ABOUT NINE THOUSAND CONNECTIONS, JUST THE NEW TAKE ON LOAN, YOU GET AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT FORTY FOUR HUNDRED CONNECTIONS.

SO I THINK BASED ON THAT AND THE CONDITION OF THE OLD TANK AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S IF WE WERE TO KEEP THE OLD TANK ON LINE, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF NONCOMPLIANCE WITH TCEQ.

SO SAFETY PROTOCOLS THAT I FEEL LIKE WOULD NEED TO BE EXERCISED.

AND THEN I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT WE'D HAVE.

SO IF WE DO KEEP IT ONLINE, THAT WE'D HAVE SOMETHING SET ASIDE FOR EMERGENCY REPAIR, A MAJOR LEAK, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, BECAUSE THERE IS SOME WITH BOTH TANKS ONLINE, THERE IS ACTUALLY THIS KIND OF WHAT I CALL EQUILIBRIUM EFFECT.

SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO BE THERE'S FOUR FEET IN THE NEW TANK THAT YOU WON'T BE UTILIZING WITHIN THE WET WHEEL NOT TO GET TO ENGINEERING.

BUT THERE'S IT'S NOT QUITE IF I KEEP THE .

5 MILLION GALLON TANK ONLINED I GET AN EXTRA POINT FIVE, IT'S REALLY MORE LIKE POINT THREE, JUST BASED ON HOW BECAUSE THE TANKS ARE

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RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND THEY KIND OF EQUALIZE A LITTLE BIT OFF EACH OTHER.

SO AGAIN, THAT WAS PART OF THE MODEL THAT WE RUN.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR WHAT WE KNOW WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, LIKE I SAID, WE GET THE ADDITIONAL FORTY FOUR HUNDRED CONNECTIONS ON THE EXISTING NINE THOUSAND JUST ON THE EXISTING STORAGE OR ELEVATED STORAGE MODEL.

AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THE BALANCING ACT.

HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO EFFECT? I WORK AT A REFINERY, SO I UNDERSTAND THE TANK ISSUE WHEN YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THINGS.

SO WITH THE DEMOLITION ITSELF, SO WE DID LOOK AT, OK, LET'S LOOK AT WITH THE CONTRACTOR, IF WE DELAY IT SIX MONTHS, IF WE DELAY AT 12 MONTHS, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOCKED IN WITH THE DEMO SUB FOR LIKE 50 GRAND.

WHEN WE LOOKED INTO PUSHING IT SIX MONTHS, WE LOST.

WE DON'T GET THAT SUB AND THE NEXT OPTION IS LIKE DOUBLE THE PRICE.

WE'RE TALKING SOMEWHERE AROUND A HUNDRED, MAYBE A HUNDRED PLUS GRAND.

SO THAT'S THE OTHER DANGER IN DELAYING NOW, GIVEN IT'S 50 A HUNDRED GRAND, MAYBE WORTH THE SAVINGS, BUT JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE IF WE DELAY IT OR PULL FROM THE CONTRACT.

WELL, IF YOU PULL FROM THE CONTRACT, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A LABOR FOR THE CITY BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE ANOTHER SUB SEPARATE FROM THIS PROJECT TO TAKE THE DEMO.

THEY'VE GOT TO HIRE DEMO CREWS.

THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT JUST EXTRA LABOR FOR THE CITY.

DUSTIN LET ME WEIGH IN HERE.

THE INTENTION IS NOT TO KEEP THAT TOWER UP ANY LONGER THAN WE CAN POSSIBLE.

WE I THINK WE'RE ALL REALIZED THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THAT WATER TOWER.

THAT'S WHY WE BUILT THE NEW ONE.

WE REALIZE THERE ARE.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD TWO LEAKS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, BUT IN ADDITION TO THIS WATER TOWER PROJECT, WE'RE TAKING OUT A ONE MILLION GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK.

SO IN ORDER TO TAKE THAT ONE MILLION GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK, WE'RE LOSING CAPACITY AND WE CAN'T JUST WISH SOMETHING INTO EFFECT.

SO THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT THIS TO MIND.

HEY LET'S JUST TEMPORARILY KEEP THIS ELEVATED TANK IN SERVICE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REMOVE ONE MILLION GALLONS OF GROUND STORAGE UNTIL WE GET EITHER THE GROUND STORAGE TANK RECONSTRUCTED AND OR BUILD ANOTHER ELEVATED STORAGE TANK OUT IN THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, WHICH WE HAVE IN THE PLANS TO DO.

SO THE INTENTION IS TO TAKE THIS THING DOWN AS SWIFTLY AS POSSIBLE.

BUT WE'RE CAUGHT BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE ON CAPACITY OF WATER STORAGE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT THIS ALL TO THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT.

YEAH, I GUESS AGAIN WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE EXISTING TANK AND I KNOW IT'S TEMPORARY, BUT YOU KNOW THE INSIDE CONDITIONS OF THAT, WET WHEEL I MEAN, IT'S POORLY COATED IF COATED AT ALL, ACTUALLY CLARK DO YOU MIND COMING UP.

SO CLARK WAS ACTUALLY HE DID THE ACTUAL INSPECTIONS.

SO WHEN WE FIRST CAME ONTO THE PROJECT AND WE HAD THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT AND THE ACTUAL UNDERWATER INSPECTION IT WAS ACTUALLY PERFORMED BY CLARK [INAUDIBLE].

MY NAME'S CLARK [INAUDIBLE] WITH STW INSPECTIONS, AND I WAS HERE THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE DECIDED TO BUILD THE NEW ELEVATED TANK AND I WAS THE ONE ACTUALLY.

CAN YOU COME CLOSER TO THE MIC.

YES, I WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT CLONED THAT TANK THREE YEARS AGO.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.

CECIL I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE AT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON THAT EXISTING TANK TO GET BACK TO CODE.

TCQ IS GOING TO COME DOWN ON TOP OF YOU FOR ALL THE VIOLATIONS, YOU'RE IN VIOLATION RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE BUILT THE NEW TANK AND WE LEFT THE OLD ONE FOR THREE YEARS WITH NO MAINTENANCE.

NOTHING'S BEEN DONE TO IT TO BUILD A NEW TANK.

AND NOW YOU'RE FOCUSING BACK ON THE OLD ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON IT.

THERE'S SOME MASSIVE REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO THAT TANK FOR PUBLIC AND ANY CONTRACTOR SAFETY THAT GOES ON THAT TANK.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION.

HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU WANT TO SPEND ON A TANK THREE YEARS AGO, WE WERE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID YOU TOOK ONE OUT OF SERVICE.

UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY.

IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT TANK ONLINE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON IT AND GET IT BACK UP BECAUSE TCQ WILL COME DOWN ON TOP OF YOU WITH VIOLATIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE IN VIOLATION ON IT RIGHT NOW.

HOW LONG DO WE HAVE.

UNTIL THEY COME OUT HERE AND START READING THE REPORTS? BECAUSE THE REPORT STARTED THREE, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO? YOU'VE HAD REPORTS WRITTEN ON THAT TANK.

IF THEY COME AND SEE THAT YOU HAVE REPORTS FROM FIVE YEARS AGO SAYING IT WAS IN

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VIOLATION, THEN HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A BRAND NEW TANK SITTING RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT? HOW IF YOU'RE A TCQ INSPECTOR AND YOU CAME IN, HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH THE CITY IF YOU KNEW FIVE YEARS AGO THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AND TAKEN CARE OF AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT AND YOU BUILT A BRAND NEW TANK RIGHT NEXT TO IT, BUT YET YOU WANT TO UTILIZE THAT ONE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX IT, AND YOU HAVE TO FIX IT PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND LIKE I SAY LOOK AT IT FROM OUTSIDE THE BOX LIKE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S POINT OF VIEW, AND THEY'RE COMING INTO YOUR CITY.

YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

BUT YET THIS ONE SAT THERE, AND NOW YOU WANT TO PUT IT BACK IN SERVICE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY MONEY ON IT.

IS THE NEW ONE IN SERVICE YET.

NO, WE'VE GOT.

IN NOVEMBER.

SO YEAH WE'RE SLATED TO FINISH CONSTRUCTION AND IN NOVEMBER, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO KICK START, BASICALLY THE NEW TANK.

AND WHAT'S THE STATUS, I KNOW WE'RE ON THE GROUND STORAGE BEHIND THE WHATABURGER, WHERE WE AT ON THAT, I KNOW I MEAN [INAUDIBLE] PUSHING, BUT KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

I MEAN, IT'S MOVING FORWARD, BUT I THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A 18 MONTH KIND OF TIMELINE TO BE OPERATIONAL.

BUT WE'RE HOLDING OUR OWN RIGHT NOW ON THAT ONE RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOOD, BUT OK.

WHAT DID YOU SAY A LITTLE WHILE AGO, CECIL THE GROWING PAINS? WELL.

I MEAN, WHAT DO WE DO UNPLUG THE TOWN AND GO HOME I MEAN WE GOT TROUBLE.

YEAH, YEAH.

AND I'M LOOKING FOR MY CONSULTING ENGINEER TO ADVISE ME, YOU ALL ARE THE MAIN PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE ON BOARD TO CONSULT.

NOW WHAT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO DO IS TO PUT ON A HAT THAT YOU JUST CHANGED YOUR ADDRESS TO ANGLETON.

YOU LIVE HERE.

I MEAN, WE'RE IN A BIND.

WE HAVE TO REPLACE ONE MILLION GALLONS OF GROUND STORAGE TANK.

YOU'RE TELLING ME I'M GOING TO TAKE A HALF MILLION GALLONS OUT OF THE AIR OR ELSE I'M GOING TO GET A SPANKING.

AND I GOT TO TELL PEOPLE, JUST QUIT USING THEIR WATER BECAUSE WE CAN'T FURNISH IT TO YOU.

[LAUGHTER] DUSTIN IS CORRECT, AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS CORRECT.

Y'ALL HAD WENT DOWN AND Y'ALL DO AN INSPECTION OF THE TANKS IN THE INSIDE THEY DO DIVING CREWS, THEY COME OUT AND THEY IDENTIFY.

THIS WAS JUST A HOPE THAT WE COULD DO THIS.

AND NOW WE'RE FINDING OUT.

RIGHT? NO WAY, NO WAY JOSE OR WHATEVER.

WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS.

ONE IS WHEN WE'RE DESIGNING THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AT THE CHENANGO PLANT, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE ACTUAL GST IN SERVICE AND BUILD THE TANK NEXT TO IT.

SO THAT'S NOT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.

I UNDERSTOOD IT WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM ON THE SITE TO HAVE BOTH OF THEM THERE PHYSICALLY TOGETHER.

NO, SIR.

THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR BOTH OF THEM THERE.

WELL THAT CHANGE THE WHOLE SCENARIO THEN? YES.

SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.

I THOUGHT WE HAD TO TAKE THAT THING DOWN IN ORDER TO BUILD A NEW ONE.

NO SIR.

SO THE EXISTING TANK WILL ALWAYS STAY ONLINE WE WILL HOT TAP THE LINE TO FILL THE NEW TANK ONCE EVERYTHING'S PASSED, GET THE TANK FIXED UP AND THEN WE'LL SHUT IT DOWN AND MAKE THE CONNECTIONS BACK TO THE EXISTING BOOSTER PUMPS.

SO I MEAN, AT THE MOST, YOU'LL BE DOWN A WEEK AT THE MOST.

I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT MUCH TO MAKE THE CONNECTION TO GET EVERYTHING PUT TOGETHER ON THERE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING TO SAVE MONEY AND SAVE TIME IS NOT MOVE THE BOOSTER PUMPS AND BUILD A NEW BUILDING WHERE YOU CAN USE THE EXISTING ONES LIKE JOHN SAID, RUN A LINE OVER TO THE NEW TANK AND GET IT OPERATIONAL.

WE DID THE WALKTHROUGH BEFORE TML LAST WEEK WE GOT THE SURVEY AND THE SURVEYS IN PICKED UP EVERYTHING, IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF THINGS NEED TO GO BACK AND PICK UP.

WE'RE FIXING TO GET THE GEOTECH OUT, TO DO THE BORINGS WE'RE CITING IT TOMORROW, WE'RE IN THE LOCATION, PHYSICAL LOCATION.

SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.

SO YOUR BELIEF IS TAKING THE OLD ONE DOWN WE SHOULD BE FINE.

I THINK WERE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOWN THAT THAT ONE MILLION GST WE'RE MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT NOT TO HAVE THAT DOWN FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

WELL, YEAH, YOU COULD.

THAT'S DOABLE.

YOU PUT EVERYTHING, YOU GET EVERYTHING PIPPED UP WHERE YOU WANT TO UNTIL YOU GOT TO TURN IT OFF, SPEND THE TIME TO HOOK THEM TOGETHER AND YOU'RE UP AND RUNNING.

BUT I APOLOGIZE IF THERE'S AN APOLOGY THAT'S NEEDED.

I WAS FULLY UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAD TO TAKE THAT GROUND STORAGE TANK OUT OF SERVICE TO BUILD A NEW ONE.

SO I STAND CORRECTED.

I'M SORRY, I SENT US DOWN A RABBIT TRAIL THAT I DIDN'T NEED TO SEND US DOWN?

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NO WORRIES, SIR.

NO WORRIES.

I WAS RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, THOUGH, COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

I WAS CONCERNED AS WELL THAT THE DETERIORATION IN THAT GROUND STORAGE TANK THAT POSSIBLY WOULDN'T MAKE IT DURING CONSTRUCTION NEXT TO IT.

SO IT WAS JUST REALLY MORE HEDGING BETS AND BEING SAFE.

AND IT'S GREAT YOU HAD TO ASK THE QUESTION.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ASKING THAT QUESTION.

WE GET YOU AN ANSWER.

I MEAN, THAT WAS A GREAT QUESTION AND GREAT IDEA.

I THINK WHERE CECIL'S QUESTIONS, AND SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS CAME FOR KEEPING THAT TANK WAS BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO IN THE MINDSET OF POSSIBLY BUILDING THE NORTH TANK.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE BOUGHT US IN TIME FOR THE NORTH TANK AS WELL.

[INAUDIBLE] NORTH? BUT YEAH, I REMEMBER SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THE LAST MEETING ABOUT IS THERE GOING TO BE ROOM? NO ROOM SO I CAN SEE WHERE IT KIND OF GOT CONFUSING.

THAT WAS THE MESSAGE THAT CAME OUT.

SO REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE LIMITING FACTORS OUR BOOSTER PUMPS AND ELEVATED STORAGE.

AND SO AGAIN, I TOOK THAT AS A BRIDGE TO NORTH ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.

SO WE INCREASE OUR ELEVATED STORAGE CAPACITY AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE WITH THE SOUTH TANK KEEPING ON LINE AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH FUNDING AND DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF MIC] TANK.

WELL IN MY BIT OF EMBARRASSMENT HERE, BUT I DO FEEL A BIG TIME BETTER BECAUSE IF MY SCENARIO WAS THE CASE, WE WERE GOING TO TAKE OUT THE BOOSTER PUMP STATION TOO AND WE WERE JUST GOING TO BE HUNG OUT TO DRY.

JUST.

YEAH THE BOOSTER PUMP STATION CANNOT.

IT'S GOT TO BE VERY LIMITED.

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE LUXURY OF TAKING THAT BOOSTER FROM STATION DOWN FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAD TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO GET ALL THAT STUFF IN THERE AND MOVE ALL AROUND.

SO YES, YES, ALL THAT FRETTING FOR NOTHING.

IT'S NOT LIKE I'M READY TO TAKE IT DOWN.

YOU CAN GET SOME SLEEP NOW.

WELL, AND JUST KIND OF LAST TO PUT A BOOKEND ON IT.

YOU'D BE FASTER IN DESIGNING AND BUILDING THAT NEW NORTH SIDE NUMBER, I'M CALLING IT NORTH SIDE NUMBER 2 TANK THAN YOU WOULD DOING THE REHAB ON THAT EXISTING TANK.

THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS THAT HAD WE DONE THE REHAB, WE MAY STILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION AND WE WOULD HAVE STARTED YOU KNOW.

WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN REHABBING.

I HAVE NO INTEREST IN DOING ANYTHING TO THAT TANK.

THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

NO, NONE.

UNDERSTOOD.

SO I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST WE JUST GO OUT THERE AND FILL IT UP AND SHUT IT OFF AND SAY WE HAVE A [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]? WE CAN'T USE IT, BUT IT'S STUCK THERE, RIGHT? SO THE ACTION ITEM WAS TO DELAY DEMOLISHING.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT DELAYING DEMOLISHING.

WE'RE MOVING AS THE CONTRACT IS WRITTEN.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

[22. Discussion and possible action on future park development of Rueben Welch Park.]

NUMBER 22 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT OF RUEBEN WELCH PARK, IT'S MEGAN.

YES GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

COUNCILMAN SVOBODA WILL ABSTAIN FROM ANY DISCUSSIONS OR IF THERE'S ANY ACTION ON THIS ITEM DUE TO A POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

OK, SO AS MANY OF YOU ALL KNOW, STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING TOWARDS ADDRESSING LOW SCORING ITEMS IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN.

ONE OF THOSE ITEMS IN NEED OF ATTENTION IS RUEBEN WELCH PARK.

SO WE HAVE LISTED IN YOUR AGENDA SUMMARY SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE ADDRESSED IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU CAN REVIEW, BUT JUST TO REVIEW WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET MEETINGS WAS STAFF ORIGINALLY PROPOSED THAT WE FUND A CONCEPT PLAN WITHIN THIS NEW FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

CITY COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CONSIDER PURSUING A PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENT AND DEVELOP THE SITE WITH PUBLIC ACCESS.

SINCE THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, STAFF MET WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE OR COMMUNICATED WITH THEM THROUGH EMAIL, RATHER REGARDING HOW THAT FACILITY COULD BE USED.

SINCE INITIALLY FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT, WE RECEIVED A PARK GRANT THROUGH TPW.

TYPICALLY, WHAT THAT REQUIRES IS PARK SITES BE MAINTAINED AS PUBLIC PARK LAND IN PERPETUITY.

AS A RESULT, STAFF HAS ENGAGED TPW TO DETERMINE RESTRICTIONS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENTS FOR RUEBEN WELCH PARK.

DAN REESE, THE TPW LOCAL PARK GRANTS MANAGER, NOTED THE FOLLOWING THE FACILITY MUST REMAIN OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

A REASONABLE FEE IS PERMITTED.

WE HANDLE THESE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, SO WE WILL KEEP THEM IN THE LOOP, OF COURSE, AND WE WON'T TAKE ANY ACTION UNTIL IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE DEPARTMENT.

ALSO, THEIR PROGRAM REQUIRES THAT ALL REVENUE COLLECTED BY THE CITY AS PART OF AN AGREEMENT MUST BE INVESTED BACK INTO THE ANGLETON PARKS DEPARTMENT AND PREFERABLY

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BACK INTO RUEBEN WELCH PARK.

ON AUGUST 9TH 2021 STAFF MET WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO BRING UP THE CONCEPT OF A PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENT FOR RUEBEN WELCH PARK.

THEY DID RECOMMEND THAT THE AREA BE DEVELOPED INTO A WILDERNESS PARK, BUT WE'RE ALSO OPEN TO ADVERTISING A PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENT THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO CONSIDER OTHER OPTIONS THAT THEY MAY NOT EVEN BE AWARE OF OR HAVE CONSIDERED.

SO WE HAD ATTEMPTED TO BRING THIS TO ABLC AT THEIR AUGUST MEETING, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM TO MEET.

AND SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU THIS EVENING TO CONSIDER PURSUING A PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENT BY ADVERTISING THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

WHAT COULD YOU SEE HAPPENING ON THAT LOCATION? I WILL SAY WHEN WE'VE TALKED WITH SOME STAFF INTERNALLY, WE DO HAVE SOME SITE CONSTRAINTS AS IT RELATES TO UTILITIES.

JEFF MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT.

WE HAD ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED A BIKE PUMP COURSE AND TRACK AND SKATEPARK.

ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THAT, WHILE IT COULD BE DONE, IS JUST AGAIN THE PARKS ACCESSIBILITY.

YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO DRIVE TO IT, HOWEVER, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A BIKE PUMP COURSE.

PEOPLE MAY DO IT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A SPECIAL USE PARK AND FOLKS MAY BE INTERESTED ENOUGH TO GO OUT THERE.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT JUST RESTORING IT AS A RESTORATION REHABILITATION TO PRAIRIE GRASSLAND, WHICH A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE DOING BECAUSE WE ARE DEFINITELY TAKING OVER TEXAS WITH CONCRETE.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE SOME MUNICIPALITIES DOING WITH SOME OF THEIR OPEN SPACES, JUST CONVERTING IT BACK TO NATIVE PRAIRIE GRASSLAND AND LETTING THAT BE MORE OF A POLLINATOR AREA WITH NATURE TRAILS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU COULD ALSO WE WERE CONSIDERING AS RECENT AS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO CONTRACTING WITH A PRIVATE ENTITY.

I DON'T KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS WERE ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME WITH AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTED TO DO A PETTING ZOO.

SHE WAS GOING TO REDEVELOP THE SITE.

SO I THINK WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN HOW IT CAN BE USED, AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF IDEAS TOSSED AROUND.

NONE THAT HAVE REALLY BEEN SOLIDIFIED OR AGREED UPON.

HOW ABOUT A TIGER ZOO.

A TIGER ZOO.

THAT IS A NEW ONE FOR ME.

PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE WE COULD INVITE FROM OKLAHOMA.

[LAUGHTER] GAINING SOME NOTORIETY.

GET A LOT OF TOURISM JUST SAYING.

NEW TOURISM SPOT.

I'M SERIOUS.

WELL, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT MIGHT PROPOSE THAT IF YOU HAVE A CONTACT, IF WE WANT TO OFFER AN RFP, THEN THEY CAN CERTAINLY SUBMIT A PROPOSAL.

ENTERTAIN LIKE AN ENTERTAINMENT VENUE.

PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WATER PARKS.

PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPECIAL USE.

OUTDOOR CONCERT VENUE.

SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF IDEAS THROWN OUT THERE.

IT'S JUST, ARE WE READY? WE HAVEN'T REALLY.

BY WE, I SAY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD HAVEN'T COME TO A CONSENSUS ON WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO WHEN WE HAD PROPOSED INITIALLY FOR BUDGETING A CONCEPT PLAN, WE WOULD HAVE DEVELOPED THAT THIS YEAR IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WITH PUBLIC INPUT, WE WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH WITH LAKESIDE PARK AND FREEDOM.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE PULLED THAT FROM THE BUDGET, WE WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR US OR WHAT MY EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE, IS THAT WE GO OUT FOR PROPOSAL.

WE WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH TPWD TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE RESTRICTIONS ARE WELL-DEFINED AND IN THAT PROPOSAL, AND THAT WHATEVER WE RECEIVE BEFORE COMING TO AN AGREEMENT, WE MAKE SURE THAT ANY BUILT AMENITIES, IT'S STILL ON CITY PROPERTY, IT BECOMES CITY PROPERTY AND WE WOULD JUST HAVE A LONG TERM LEASE AGREEMENT SO THEY WOULD BE EXPECTED AND WE WOULD OUTLINE SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT THAT WOULD SPECIFY THE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT THAT MAINTENANCE LOOKS LIKE.

SO IT IS MAINTAINED TO OUR STANDARD BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ON CITY PROPERTY.

AND TO ME, IT'S NOT A BAD OPTION BECAUSE THE HOPE IS THAT YOU HAVE A PRIVATE ENTITY INVESTING IN PARKLAND THAT OTHERWISE MAY NOT BE, OR IT COULD BE WELL DOWN THE LINE IF WE HAVE OTHER PARKS AND RENOVATION ITEMS THAT ARE TAKING PRECEDENCE.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A FITTING DISCUSSION BECAUSE THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T WELL, YOU MAY KNOW WE WENT TO TML AND WE WENT HAD LUNCH IN DISCOVERY GREEN, WHICH IS A PARK THERE

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IN HOUSTON, WHICH WE NOTICED DISCOVERY GREEN HAS ALL SORTS OF AMENITIES THERE'S THE ICE SKATING RINK AT THE CHRISTMAS TIME.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS THERE.

YES, IT'S WE'RE NOT HOUSTON, BUT THEY DID KIND OF YOUR VISION IS DISCOVERY GREEN WOULD BE OUR VISION FOR MAYBE WELCH PARK WITH SOME SORT OF VENUE OR SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW.

IT COULD BE.

MEGAN, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATION WITH PARKS AND WILDLIFE ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE THERE? THEY WANT TO SEE THERE.

NOT NECESSARILY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD FORCE US TO GO IN ONE DIRECTION.

JUST A BRAIN STORM.

HOW ABOUT THIS AND THINK ABOUT THAT.

RIGHT? WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW INVOLVED THEY WOULD GET I THINK WHAT THEY WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH IS WHAT WOULD IF IT WAS A PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENT.

WHAT IS THE ADMISSION TO GET IN? I THINK THEY WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH THAT AND I THINK THEY WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH WHERE THE FUNDS ARE GOING.

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE RECEIVED FROM THEM.

I HAVEN'T RECEIVED MUCH MORE INFORMATION JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM ANY IDEA OF WHAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY EVEN ENTAIL.

SO WE CAN GIVE THEM A LIST OF ITEMS TO CONSIDER.

HEY, WOULD TPWD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, A WATER PARK SIMILAR TO X OR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE BRAINSTORMING AND JUST SEE WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK WE'D GET? BUT I THINK REALLY, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO NOT NECESSARILY GUIDE WHAT THAT PARK OR PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS IT RELATES TO PARK DEVELOPMENT.

THEY WOULD JUST REALLY BE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE ENFORCING SOME RESTRICTIONS.

SO ON A SIDE NOTE, WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION A WHILE AGO RUNNING THROUGH PARKS AND ABLC AND MOVING ON WELL, WE HAVE THIS WEATHER EVENT CALLED HURRICANE NICHOLAS, AND SO ALL OUR DEBRIS THAT WE'VE REMOVED FROM THE CITY, OR NINETY NINE PERCENT OF IT HAS GONE OUT THERE.

SO WE WERE WORKING TO DISPOSE OF THAT.

AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL RETURN BACK TO NORMAL OR WHATEVER THE NORMAL IS SOMETIME SOON IN THE FUTURE AND WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED.

DID IT IMPROVE IT.

IT ACTUALLY LOOKS RATHER THAN NICE.

AND SHOULD THE ASTROS WIN THE WORLD SERIES, I PROPOSE A BONFIRE OUT THERE.

IS IT TOTALLY MAYBE WE'RE OFF SUBJECT MATTER, BUT IS ANYBODY EVER LIKE CONTACTED US ABOUT USING THAT FOR MULCH? CAN WE GET? YES, COMPANY WANTS TO COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE'LL GIVE YOU A SMALL NOMINAL FEE, AND OF COURSE, THEY'RE DOING US A HUGE FAVOR BY TAKING IT OFF OUR HANDS.

WELL, WE'VE HAD ACTUALLY THE DEBRIS REMOVAL DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT THEM MULCHING IT FOR US RIGHT NOW, THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AN OPTION.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A TCQ APPROVED THAT'S WHY I CALLED A BONFIRE CONTROL BURN SOMETIME AFTER THE FAIR TIMEFRAME.

EXCUSE ME.

[LAUGHTER] JUST THINKING HOW BIG A BONFIRE THAT'S GOING TO BE.

AND IT'S JUST BRUSH, FOLKS.

IT'S JUST BRUSH.

IT'S NOT TIMBER IT'S JUST THE BRUSH, THE VEGETATION.

NO HOUSEHOLD PRODUCTS.

I GUESS THIS ALL SOUNDS GREAT.

AND BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT WELCH PARK IS THE ROAD GETTING TO IT, THEN THE NO WATER OR NO SEWER CAPACITY OVER THERE.

I JUST MY CONCERN IS WHATEVER WE PUT IN THERE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPACT THAT AREA WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES IN, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

BUT YOU'RE ONLY ASKING FOR US TO PURSUE A PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO ANYTHING.

SO WE MAY PUT THAT OUT FOR ADVERTISEMENT.

EXPRESSING MY.

AND THEN WE ALSO, EVEN IF WE DO CONSIDER IT, WE DON'T.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THEM.

I'M JUST EXPRESSING MY CONCERNS WITH THAT AREA.

BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF PURSUING IT.

I'M ALSO OPEN TO THE IDEA SINCE YOU SEEM TO HAVE CONNECTIONS WITH TREES AND JUST START POPULATING THAT PLACE WITH TREES, AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK AND CUT OUT AND REMOVE WHATEVER THEY NEED ONCE THERE'S LANDSCAPING.

I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, AND MEGAN YOU CAN PROBABLY AGREE OR DISAGREE, BUT WHEN YOU PUT LIKE A WILDERNESS PRESERVE TOGETHER OR SOMETHING, JUST THE MAINTENANCE ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAN ALSO BE PRETTY COSTLY.

EVERY TREE THAT FALLS HAS TO BE CUT UP AND TRAIL MAINTENANCE HAS TO BE DONE IN A LOT OF CASES THAT CAN BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN JUST GOING IN ONCE A WEEK OR ONCE

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A MONTH AND JUST CUTTING THE GRASS.

SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

AND ONE THING TO CONSIDER THAT WAS RECENTLY DISCUSSED WITH SOME OTHER GROUPS, TOO IS, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD EVEN BE INTERESTED IN THIS RFP.

YOU COULD BE CONSIDERING CONSERVATION GROUPS THAT WILL COME IN AND DO THAT FOR US.

SO WHAT ABOUT LIKE BIRDWATCHING? SO WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW.

I WAS ALSO GOING TO SAY, WHY ARE WE ONLY TALKING ABOUT WELCH PARK? DO YOU HAVE PLANS FOR THE AUSTIN TOWN SITE? WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE PLANS FOR THE AUSTIN TOWN SITE.

WE HAVE HAD JUST VERY FEW CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY WITH STAFF.

I KNOW WE WANT TO PROGRAM THAT, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T.

WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN YOU KNOW LOW HANGING FRUIT.

WE'VE GOT SHORT TERM, MID-TERM, LONG TERM AND SO AUSTIN TOWN ONCE IT CAME BACK TO US, THAT HONESTLY NEEDS TO GO BACK ON TO CIP AND BE INCLUDED IN REDEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

WE DO HAVE TO BE CONSCIENTIOUS OF THE AMENITIES THAT ARE ALREADY ON SITE AND THEN WE HAVE OUR FIRING RANGE THERE CURRENTLY.

AND SO IT HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION, BUT NOT A DEEP DISCUSSION.

SO WE'LL DEFINITELY BRING THAT UP AT A LATER DATE.

DOES THE CITY OWN THAT LAND WHERE AUSTIN TOWN IS.

WE DO.

I THOUGHT THEY DID, BUT I WASN'T SURE.

OK, OK.

GOOD CONVERSATIONS.

ANY OTHER CONVERSATIONS? WHAT DO WE NEED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? YES, WE DO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM POTENTIALLY.

MR. MAYOR.

I MOVE WE AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PURSUE A PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENT BY ADVERTISING THE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN.

TOWNSEND.

I JUST DREW A BLANK TRAVIS.

COUNCILMAN TRAVIS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ONE ABSTENTION AND ONE ABSTAINED.

OK, THAT MOVES US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW CONVENE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

OF THE CHAPTER 551 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED THEREIN.

NUMBER 23 DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENT PURSUANT TO 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

SHOW US GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 9:29.

ALL RIGHT GOING TO SHOW US RECONVENING BACK TO THE TABLE AT 9:50.

DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION ITEM COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20211012-023 NOMINATING

[23. Deliberate the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline, or dismissal of a public officer or employee – Boards and Commissions appointments, pursuant to Section 551.074 of the Texas Government Code.]

SUSAN SPOOR TO THE BRAZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT WITH THE HONORABLE MARK GONGORA AS THE SECOND ALTERNATE.

HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT DO I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.