GO AHEAD, GET STARTED. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, GUYS FOR WAITING PATIENTLY FOR US, FOR OUR [DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:06] CITY COUNCIL, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATED OCTOBER 26,2021. WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. WE HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT TONIGHT COUNCILMAN GONGORA, COUNCILMAN SVOBODA, BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENCE. SO I AM GOING TO CALL US TO ORDER AT 6:09. IF YOU'LL PLEASE STAND FOR A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND INVOCATION PRAY WITH ME PLEASE. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. FATHER WE THANK YOU FOR THE LIFE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. WE THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE THROUGH YEAR. WE JUST TO PRAY FOR TONIGHT THAT YOU'D GUIDE US AND GIVE US YOUR WISDOM, LORD HELP US DO YOUR BUSINESS, THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY, IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE PLEASING TO YOU AND HONORABLE TO YOU AND TO THE CITIZENRY. LORD GUIDE US AND DIRECT US, KEEP US IN YOUR WILL IN CHRIST NAME I PRAY. AMEN. ALL RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO THE PART OF THE AGENDA CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. I DON'T HAVE ANY SLIPS OF PAPER. FRANCIS IS NODDING NO, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. [CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS] CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS, PRESENTATION OF OUR OCTOBER KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL YARD OF THE MONTH AND BUSINESS OF THE MONTH [INAUDIBLE], COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHERYL SCARBROUGH AND I'M ON THE KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL BOARD AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR YARD OF THE MONTH AND OUR BUSINESS OF THE MONTH. AND THIS MONTH OUR YARD OF THE MONTH GOES TO MIKE GREENSHAW AND SHARON BRODY. COME ON UP AND THEY ARE AT 801 NORTH ARCOLA. AND THEY HAD A BEAUTIFULLY DECORATED YARD THIS MONTH AND IT WAS VERY WELL DECORATED FOR THE SEASON WITH LOTS OF SCARECROWS AND LOTS OF PLANTS AND GARDENS, SO THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB. THANK YOU. AND OUR BUSINESS OF THE MONTH IS GIOVANNI'S ITALIAN KITCHEN AT 729 EAST MULBERRY. AND THEY HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AT UPDATING AROUND THE RESTAURANT AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY THERE, YOU NEED TO GO BY THERE AND TAKE A LOOK BECAUSE IT LOOKS REALLY GREAT. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO GIOVANNI. ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] AGENDA ITEMS, ITEM NUMBER TWO DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20211026-002 ADOPTING TEXAS OPIOID SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE TEXAS TERM SHEET AND ITS INTRASTATE ALLOCATION SCHEDULE. NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO IMPROVE FINANCIAL AUDIT AND SINGLE AUDIT ENGAGEMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR SEPTEMBER 30, 2021 AND NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSING THE POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE ONE WAY TRAFFIC FROM NORTH BELL TO SOUTH BELL ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 31ST, 2021 FROM 5 P.M. TO 9 P.M.. COUNCILMAN. MAYOR, WE ADOPTED A CONSENT AGENDA. I'D LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER FOUR OUT OF CONSENT. NUMBER FOUR OUR CONSENT. MR. BOOTH WILL YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION. I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO ADOPT ITEMS TWO AND THREE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT. [00:05:03] ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. OKAY, SO ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THERE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE AGENDA ALSO THE CLOSURE OF [4. Discussion and possible action to authorize one-way traffic from North Belle to South Belle on Sunday, October 31, 2021 from 5:00 P.M. to 9:00 P.M.] ORANGE FOR THE PEACH STREET. CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT TO ADD THAT TO THE LIST OF CLOSURES FOR SATURDAY? IS IT FOR THE SAME EVENT? NO DIFFERENT EVENT. YOU CAN. THEY'RE BOTH FOR HALLOWEEN, BUT FOR TWO TO ONES ON HALLOWEEN NIGHT AND ONCE THE DAY BEFORE HALLOWEEN, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO NOW. LET ME LOOK IT, LET ME LOOK AT YOUR SUMMARY. WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE JOHN, REMIND ME. THE PEACH STREET HAS THEIR THING THIS SATURDAY, AND IT INCLUDES THE FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH THROUGH ORANGE STREET CLOSURE FOR TRUNK OR TREAT, AND IT'S ALL ADDED TOGETHER WITH PEACH STREET, JUST LIKE THEY DID LAST YEAR. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN HERE. AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO THEY SENT YOU KNOW, THEY SENT SOMETHING TO US OR THEY... YEAH. OR YOU JUST DIRECTED THEM TO SEND SOMETHING TO US. NO, I TALKED TO I THINK, CHRIS, DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY WHEN YOU WERE IN? I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY REQUEST. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE BEFORE THIS HAPPENS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE... CAN THE POLICE OFFICERS DECIDE TO CLOSE THE STREET? SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. ISN'T IT YOUR CITY POLICY THAT YOU USUALLY BRING THIS TO COUNCIL? I'M NOT AWARE OF A CODE PROVISION, IT'S JUST POLICY. SO IF THERE'S NOT A CODE PROVISION AND THIS IS YOUR CITY POLICY, THEN YOU CAN DIRECT STAFF THAT PURSUANT TO CITY POLICY TO TALK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE PEACH STREET MATTER. IT'S NOT ON YOUR AGENDA, BUT YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY BECAUSE IT'S POLICY. KIND OF DO THIS TRADITION BEFORE I GOT HERE. RIGHT. YEAH. IS IT DURING THE DAY OR NIGHT? IT'S DURING THE DAY. NINE TO ONE. THEY JUST THEY YEAH, EVERY LAST YEAR THEY DID THE SAME THING. THEY JUST EXPANDING IT. YEAH. SO SINCE IT'S A POLICY, YOU DON'T NEED COUNCIL ACTION. AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, YOU CAN TALK TO STAFF, OR THE PD, OR BOTH. I THINK I GOT COUNCIL DIRECTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THEN I MOVE WE ADOPT ITEM NUMBER FOUR FOR ONE WAY TRAFFIC FOR NORTH BELL AND SOUTH BELL ON OCTOBER 31 FROM FIVE TO NINE P.M. SECOND. A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS. [5. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action on Resolution No. 20211026-005 electing to participate in tax abatement agreements and setting guidelines.] NUMBER FIVE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 0211026-005 ELECTED TO PARTICIPATE, ELECTING TO PARTICIPATE IN TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENTS AND SETTLING GUIDELINES. I NEED TO FIRST GO INTO A PUBLIC HEARING. MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING MS. PRENTICE. WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO PULL IT. YOU'RE GOING TO PULL IT. YEAH. MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE CLOSE. ALL RIGHT. SORRY, YOU COULD GET YOUR HAND UP FASTER, BUT OK, JOHN, YOU RESCIND YOUR MOTION? [INAUDIBLE] I MEAN, WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. OH, OK, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. NOW NUMBER SEVEN IS BEING TABLED OR PULLED? POSTPONED. ITEM SEVEN POSTPONED. ITEM, I'M SORRY, NUMBER FIVE, NOW I NEED NUMBER SIX. [6. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on Ordinance No. 20211026-006 rezoning approximately 0.1928 acres from the Commercial-Office/Retail (C-OR) zoning district to the Single Family 7.2 (SF-7.2) zoning district.] CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20211026-006 REZONING APPROXIMATELY ZERO POINT ONE NINE TWO EIGHT ACRES FROM THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL, ALSO KNOWN AS C-OR SINGLE ZONING DISTRICT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY 7.2 ALSO KNOWN AS SF-7.2. ZONING DISTRICT MS. LINDSAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU GUYS OPEN IT TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY ZERO POINT TWO ACRES. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 1101 EAST CEDAR HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN USED AS A RESIDENCE. THE NEW HOMEOWNER WHO PURCHASED THIS HOME A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, IS HERE TONIGHT. MR. MONTGOMERY IS REQUESTING THE ZONING CHANGE AND WISHES TO CONTINUE USING THIS [00:10:05] PROPERTY AS PRIMARY RESIDENCE. IT IS CURRENTLY IN THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT. HOWEVER, HE'S WISHING TO REZONE TO SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN POINT TWO. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. I WILL SAY PLANNING AND ZONING DID UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMEND THIS FOR YOUR APPROVAL. OK, SO BEFORE I GUESS WE ASK QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM, COUNCILMAN. MAKE A MOTION OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE NOW AT A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER SIX. SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE GOING FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE A FEW MOMENTS AT THE PODIUM. ANYBODY? WOULD MR. MONTGOMERY LIKE TO SPEAK? I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO, BUT OPPORTUNITY'S THERE, TWICE, THREE TIMES. COUNCIL. MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTIONED BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING. NOW WE'RE IN THE POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF IN REGARDS TO THIS ITEM? YEAH, I DO. YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE NEXT TO DANBURY STREET AND CEDAR. AND IT'S PRESENTLY USED AS A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE. BUT IT'S RIGHT THERE, [INAUDIBLE] COMMERCIAL, IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? [INAUDIBLE] YES IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL. AND IS THERE A SIDEWALK GOING IN THERE? RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT. THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THE NEW CEDAR STREET SIDEWALK. YEAH, THE ONE ALONG CEDAR STREETS GOING RIGHT IN FROM OF THERE HOUSE. ONE SIDEWALK THAT'S BEEN IN THE SAME STATE FOR LIKE THREE WEEKS. MM HMM. JUST CURIOUS. YEAH, HOUSES AROUND IT, SO I AGREE. WHAT WAS IT BEFORE, WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY A COMMERCIAL... JUDGE BREWER'S OFFICE. THAT WAS THAT. YEAH, IT'S GOT A, I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE'S ALMOST A PARKING ON BOTH CEDAR AND...THERE'S PARKING ON DANBURY. MR. MAYOR I MOVE WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20211026-006 REZONING APPROXIMATELY ZERO POINT ONE NINE TWO EIGHT ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL OFFICE, RETAIL TO SINGLE FAMILY SF SEVEN POINT TWO. SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER . MR. BOOTH. I'M SORRY MR. BOOTH, COUNCILMAN BOOTH. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MISS LINDSAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING ON TO NUMBER SEVEN. [7. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20211026-007 authorizing the issuance of City of Angleton, Texas, Combination Tax and Revenue Certificates of Obligation, Series 2021.] OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20211-026-007 AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION SERIES 2021 MR. MORROW, PODIUM IS YOURS. THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JOE MORROW WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES. TODAY WE DID GO INTO THE MARKET TO SELL THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR WATER SYSTEM. PRIMARILY, I THINK, THE CHENANGO WATER PLANT. YOU KNOW, THE MARKET'S BEEN BOUNCING AROUND QUITE A BIT. I GAVE YOU THIS IF YOU'LL JUST LOOK REAL QUICK BEHIND TAB NUMBER ONE. THIS IS THE BOND BUYER INDEX. IT GIVES YOU AN INDICATION OF WHERE RATES HAVE BEEN GOING LATELY. YOU CAN SEE WE'RE JUST UP OFF OF THE ALL TIME LOWS THAT WE'VE HIT HERE IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. YOU DID VERY WELL TODAY IN THE MARKET. THE RATE THAT YOU GOT WAS A 2.22, TRUE INTEREST COST. SO THAT IS JUST UNDER WHERE WE HAD PROJECTED YOU WOULD BE IN EARLY AUGUST. SO, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY ARE HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COME IN AND AND HIT THIS. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SPECULATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE AS WE GO INTO 2022, THAT THE FED IS GOING TO BE ENDING THEIR OPEN MARKET OPERATIONS AND THAT BY THE TIME WE HIT AUGUST, WE'RE GOING TO START TO SEE THE FED ACTUALLY RAISING BORROWING COSTS. [00:15:07] SO WITH ACTUALLY A HALF POINT IS WHAT MOST FOLKS ARE PREDICTING. SO I THINK WE GOT IN HERE AND AND GOT A REALLY GOOD RATE. OUR ACTION THAT WE NEED YOU TO TAKE TONIGHT TO ACCEPT THIS IS TO APPROVE THE BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH BAIRD. THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT HAVE OFFERED TO PURCHASE YOUR BONDS AT THIS LEVEL, AND I THINK CHRIS HAS SOMETHING HE WANTS TO GO AHEAD, SIR. SO I JUST LIKE TO ADD. SO THIS IS NOT THE NORMAL PROCESS WHEN WE GO OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BID BECAUSE THE MARKET HAS BEEN SO UNSTABLE. JOE, AGAINST WHAT HE NORMALLY DOES, RECOMMENDED NEGOTIATION. SO JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE NORMAL PROCESS. BUT IN THE END, IT TURNED OUT WE GOT A GREAT RATE AND IT'S ON TRACK. SO WE'RE FRESH MEMORY. OUR LAST BOND WE WENT OUT FOR, WE GOT A GREAT RATE BID WHAT WAS IT? ANYBODY RECALL? IT WAS A TWO POINT ONE, IT WAS IN THE TWOS I THOUGHT, OH, HE'S GOT IT. RIGHT AROUND TWO TWO POINT ONE TWO. IT WAS A ONE POINT SIX FIVE SEVEN FIVE. OKAY. AND THE WINNING BID CAME FROM THE GOOD FOLKS AT BAIRD WHO WE ASK TO TO SELL THIS ONE FOR US. OK, I KNEW IT WAS A GOOD LOW, ALL TIME LOW FOR THE CITY. SO WE REALLY CAUGHT IT THEN. BUT I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A GOOD DEAL HERE AT TWO POINT TWO TWO. YES, SIR. OK. COUNCIL. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20211026-007 AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION SERIES 2021 TO BAIRD FOR THE INTEREST RATE OF TWO POINT TWO TWO PERCENT. SECOND THAT. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, JUST SO EVERYONE ONE FOLLOWING AT HOME OR IN THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTANDS, THIS WASN'T SOMETHING WE JUST DECIDED TO JUST GO SPEND MONEY ON. THIS WAS AN EMERGENCY FUND, EMERGENCY FUNDING OF OUR WATER PLANT AT CHENANGO. AND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IS IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE JUST WANTED TO GO DO. IT WAS A HAVE TO. AND WE'RE FORTUNATE TO BE IN THE POSITION THAT WE CAN DO TO HAVE TO AT THIS TIME. SO I SEND YOU ALL AN UPDATE TODAY FROM JOHN PETERSEN HDR ON THE PROGRESS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR. MORROW. THANK YOU. AND JUST REAL QUICKLY, CELESTE KELLY IS HERE. SHE'S PREPARED THE LEGAL WORK FOR ALL OF THIS AND WILL TAKE THIS FROM HERE AND GET IT THROUGH THE AG TO GET YOU YOUR MONEY BY NOVEMBER 23RD. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CELESTE. OK, MOVING RIGHT ALONG, NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A [8. Discussion and possible action to approve a proposal for the design, bid and construction phase services for the Brazoria County courthouse expansion utility & paving improvements project.] PROPOSAL FOR THE DESIGN, BID AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES FOR THE BRAZORIA COUNTY COURTHOUSE EXPANSION UTILITY AND PAVING IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. MR. JOHN PETERSON, PODIUM IS YOURS. ALL RIGHT, RECENTLY, THE CITY HAS BEEN APPROACHED BY MISSOURI COUNTY ABOUT THE ABANDONMENT OF CHENANGO RIGHT AWAY BETWEEN THE WEST LIVE OAK AND WEST LIVE OAK. I'M SORRY, LOCUST DRIVE, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO DO AN EXPANSION OF THE COURTHOUSE THERE IN THAT AREA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IF WE WERE TO ABANDON TO ASSIST THE COUNTY IN THAT WAS THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME UTILITIES THAT'LL NEED TO BE DONE. ALSO, THERE'LL BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAY SECTION OF ARCOLA FOR FUTURE EXPANSION TO WIDEN THAT STREET FOR THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. THAT SECTION IS FROM CEDAR TO WEST LIVE OAK. THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE WATER AND SEWER ALONG THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND FOR THE CITY TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER WATER QUALITY AND FOR TIGHTENING UP THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM IN THAT AREA. WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT WHILE THEY'RE WORKING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND TEAR STUFF BACK UP WHEN WE'RE DONE. [00:20:02] THE COUNTY HAS ENTERED INTO AN INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT. THE COUNTY HAS AGREED FUNDING IN THIS PROJECT. THEY ARE NOW MOVING FORWARD. THE CHURCH HAS BEEN REMOVED OFF THE PROPERTY. THEY PLAN ON MOVING FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION AND BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION AND IN THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER AND DECEMBER JANUARY SOMEWHERE IN THERE. WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH THE COUNTY ON CURRENT UTILITIES OUT THERE, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BYPASS PUMP, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, SOME WORK. SO WE'VE GOT THAT ALREADY IN PLAN. WE'VE GOT THAT STUFF GOING. THIS IS FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND GET MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. WE TALKED WITH THE COUNTY. WE'RE USING SOME OF THEIR SURVEY TO SAVE MONEY. SO THIS HAS BEEN WELL THOUGHT OF AND IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE WE'VE GOT TO TAKE OFF TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE NOT IMPACTING THEIR SCHEDULE. THIS IS FUNDED BY THE COUNTY. THAT'S ALL, I WAS, I SAW A BUDGET OF MOUNTAIN BLANC AND I KEPT READING. BUT THEN I SAW THE WORD REIMBURSEMENT THAT WAS THAT WAS GOOD. OK, SO. WE APPROVE HDR FOR THE DESIGN BID AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES FOR THE BRAZORIA COUNTY COURTHOUSE EXPANSION UTILITY AND PAVING IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $230,900 .00. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THERE WERE TWO NUMBERS THAT DIDN'T JIVE AS A TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY, AND IT WAS A TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT.. YES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE FINAL NUMBER, PROBABLY. BUT BRAZORIA COUNTY IS GOING TO REIMBURSE US FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT OUT TO TO GET THIS DONE. CORRECT. AND I HAVE A NUMBER IN HERE FOR APPROXIMATELY FORTY TWO THOUSAND FOUR INSPECTION TO HELP YOUR CITY STAFF. Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOING IT ALL BY YOURSELF. THERE'S BEEN SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD TO HELP. THERE MAY BE COST SAVING LIKE CECIL SAID, THE FINAL NUMBER MAY BE DOWN THAT MUCH, DEPENDING ON YOUR STAFF'S AVAILABILITY AND WHAT'S GOING ON IF WE CAN HELP THEM OR IF THEY'VE GOT IT ALL COVERED. OK. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION IS THE INTERLOPER IS NOT ATTACHED. YOU APPROVED IT BACK IN AUGUST, I THINK IT WAS. I'M JUST TRYING REMEMBER THE AMOUNT. WAS IT 230,900 OR 230,000 EVEN? I THINK IT'S 230,900, THAT'S THE NUMBER, THAT'S THE NUMBER IN THE BOTTOM OF THE CONTRACT. I THINK SO, TOO, I JUST MAYBE IT'S JUST A TYPO. IT'S A TYPO. I'M FINE. MY MOTION SAID 230,900 ANYWAY, SO THAT'S GOOD. SO WE'RE GOOD. I THINK SO. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. ITEM, [9. Discussion and possible action on the Riverwood Ranch Subdivision Section Two final replat.] NINE, IT'S DISCUSSING A POSSIBLE ACTION ON RIVERWOOD RANCH SUBDIVISION SECTION TWO FINAL REPLAT. WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL TODAY FROM THE RIVERWAY PROPERTIES GROUP AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A 30 DAY EXTENSION TO OUR RIVERWOOD RANCH SECTION TWO FUNNEL PLAT AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT IN REFERENCE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 212.0099(B)2 TWO. WE REQUEST THAT THE FINAL PLAT BE MOVED TO THE NOVEMBER 9TH AGENDA. MS. JUDITH, WILL YOU EXPLAIN HOW THIS WORKS OR WHAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE WITH THIS OFFERING OF AN EXTENSION? SO BASICALLY, AS OF 2019, THE LEGISLATURE HAS NARROWED WHAT A CITY COUNCIL CAN DO ON PLATS AND EXTENSION OF TIME. THE ONLY WAY THAT A DEVELOPER GET AN EXTENSION OF TIME ON PLAID APPROVAL IS BY DOING A WRITTEN REQUEST, AND THE BODY THAT IS GIVEN THE REQUEST HAS TO VOTE TO GRANT THE REQUEST OR NOT. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN GET A REQUEST. THEN THAT'S NEW AS OF 2019. SO THE THERE ARE NO OTHER. HE CAN'T JUST STAND UP HERE AND ASK YOU FOR THAT AND YOU GIVE IT. HE HAS TO DO IT IN WRITING, WHICH HE HAS. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU GRANT THAT. GOTCHA. AND DO WE HAVE TO ACT OR NOT ACT ON HIS? YOU HAVE TO. YOU HAVE TO ACT, IF YOU DO NOT ACT, IF YOU DON'T VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM THE EXTRA DAYS, THEN AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF 30 DAYS FROM THE TIME THAT THE PLAT WAS SUBMITTED BY HIM, IT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED. SO IF IF YOU DO NOTHING, IT WILL GET APPROVED. GOTCHA. OK, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING WHAT 212.009 STANDS FOR. COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO DO WITH ITEM NUMBER NINE AND REQUEST FOR THE 30 DAY [00:25:03] EXTENSION? WHY DOES HE NEED A 30 DAY EXTENSION? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE TO. I MEAN, THE STATUTE JUST SAYS HE JUST ASKED FOR IT. I MEAN, BEFORE I VOTE ON SOMETHING. BE NICE TO UNDERSTAND THE REASON BEHIND IT. CURIOSITY, SO I KNOW THE ANSWERS, SO WE'RE EITHER VOTING TO EXTEND THE PLAT AT A TIME TO FOLLOW THE PLAT. SO IT'S A IT'S PLAT APPROVAL ITEM. HE'S ASKED FOR MORE TIME TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU LATER. OR I MEAN, IF THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY HE CAN GET MORE TIME STATUTORILY AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT HE'S DONE IT BY GIVING YOU A REQUEST IN WRITING WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU GIVE IT, IF YOU DO NOT DO, IF YOU DO NOTHING TONIGHT, I USE THE WRONG WORD. IT'S OPERATION BY LAW THAT IT GETS APPROVED AFTER 30 DAYS OF THE PLAT'S SUBMITTAL. SO EITHER YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ITEM AND CONSIDER THE PLAT APPROVAL, WHICH IS AN ADMINISTERIAL ACT, OR YOU VOTE AND GIVE HIM THE EXTRA TIME THAT HE'S REQUESTED PURSUANT TO WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS. OR YOU DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT THIS JUNCTURE IF YOU DO NOTHING AT THIS JUNCTURE BY OPERATION OF LAW. AFTER 30 DAYS OF PLAT FILING, IT GETS APPROVED BY LAW. CAN WE IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION TO LITERALLY VOTE NO? NO, WE WON'T GRANT YOUR EXTENSION. SO IF YOU SAY NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GRANT YOUR EXTENSION. THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ITEM. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE GIVE HIM THE 30 DAY EXTENSION. SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. [10. Discussion and possible action on the Live Oak Ranch Subdivision preliminary plat.] ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 10. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON LIVE OAK RANCH SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAT, MR. WALTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'LL BE BRIEF SINCE WE GOT ABOUT HALF AN HOUR. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN TO LIVE OAK RANCH SUBDIVISION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF ANGLETON BOULEVARD, JUST NORTH OF BASTROP STREET. THE CONSIST OF 20 ACRES, IT'S SIXTY FIVE LOTS IN SF6.3 ZONING DISTRICT. THE FEW OUTSTANDING COMMENTS THAT WERE LEFT TO BE CLEARED HAVE BEEN CLEARED BY THE CITY ENGINEER, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED SIX TO ONE ON A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS AT THEIR OCTOBER 7TH P&Z MEETING. AND MR. WALTER, JUST TO SAY P AND Z SAID SIX IN FAVOR, ZERO AGAINST? ONE. ONE OPPOSED OK. SIX IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED. THANK YOU, SIR. I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION ON THIS, THE ISSUE THAT A LOT OF THE THAT CAME UP A LOT, I WOULD SAY PRETTY MUCH ONE PERSON, BUT THERE WERE A FEW THAT TALKED TO ME AFTERWARDS AND KIND OF HAD THE SAME CONCERN. IS THE TRAFFIC GOING DOWN DALLAS, HOUSTON, BASTROP GOING THROUGH THERE TO THE NEW SECTION. AND THEIR CONCERN WAS ANOTHER ENTRANCE TO THAT, THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE CONNECTING IT OR OFF THE BACK OF OF NINTH STREET OR SOMEWHERE. SO THAT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST CONCERN. AND RIGHT NOW, I THINK THIS WILL BE SERVICE PRIMARILY BY DALLAS AND HOUSTON, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SEE ON THE PLAT HERE IS THESE MOSTLY ARE 60 FOOT FRONTS. [00:30:07] AND UH I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, WELL, I SHARE THAT OTHER CONCERN, WHICH IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO AND FROM ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC NOW PROCEEDING THROUGH THESE SINCE ANGLETON BOULEVARD IS NOT CONNECTED ANY YET PRESENTLY. UM, THE OTHER CONCERN WOULD BE COMPLETING ANGLETON BOULEVARD. IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE BUILDER CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMPLETION OF ANGLETON BOULEVARD, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE AREA THAT'S TO BE DEVELOPED? THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BUILD THE OTHER HALF OF THE STREET ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THIS PROPERTY, SO THAT PORTION OF ANGLETON BOULEVARD WILL BE BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE THAT'S A REQUIREMENT IN THE CITY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. SO THAT WILL BE DONE. AND WHAT ABOUT ANY SORT OF DRAINAGE? WELL, THIS ISN'T A FINAL PLAT, SO THEY STILL HAVE TO DO ALL THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS. THE DRAINAGE PLANS AND THE DETAILED DRAINAGE PLANS AND ALL OF THAT WILL BE DEALT WITH. I JUST KNOW THERE'S SOME FLOODING IN THAT AREA. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE... THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS AND WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT. SO THAT'S PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. CREVICES OF LARGE DETENTION PONDS PLANNED FOR THE EASTERN END OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. LOOK ON PAGE 150 OF YOUR. SO, TRAVIS, I WANT TO ASK I MEAN, ARE YOU ASKING STAFF TO LOOK AT BUILDING OUT THAT THE REST OF THE ROAD OR... I THINK WHAT I'M CURIOUS IS WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE AREA. THEY'RE SEEKING OUR APPROVAL, I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN EXPECT IN RETURN. IT'S ALL. SO THAT'S SOMETHING AUSTIN ALREADY GO DOWN, RIGHT? SO THEIR PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE. AND SO DALLAS AND HOUSTON HAVE TO SERVICE THAT, AND THEY EVEN HAVE A STUB OUT ON THIS MAP SHOWING HOUSTON GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN. RIGHT. SO BASICALLY SEEM TO BE SERVICING THAT WAY. AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING HERE, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING THE SAME THING. ANGLETON BOULEVARD GETS FINISHED ON THAT SIDE, WHICH GIVES ANGLETON BOULEVARD A FULL ROAD THROUGH HERE UP TO THE EDGE OF BASTROP, BASICALLY. AND THEN AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS RETENTION OVER HERE ON THE FAR EAST SIDE, BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GO AHEAD AND FINISH ANGLETON BOULEVARD ALL TOGETHER. SO THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SAYING TOO IS BECAUSE IF YOU TOOK AUSTIN ANGLETON BOULEVARD UP TO NINTH STREET HERE, THEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TWO MEANS OF GETTING THERE, EITHER DOWN DEBRA OR COMING DOWN TO NINTH OR GOING TO DALLAS AND HOUSTON. YOU DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GET TO DEBORAH? THOSE ARE LOTS IN THERE. THEY'RE NOT STREETS. THE ERIK EAST, SUBDIVISION, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ERIK EAST SUBDIVISION OR LOTS. AND THEY'RE NOT STREETS TO BE CONNECTED UP TO DEBORAH. BUT IT HAS THE THE DITCH THAT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THERE, RIGHT? THE DITCH, IT RUNS EAST AND WEST THROUGH THERE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH TO SOUTH DITCH, ONE THAT RUNS ALONG ANGLETON BOULEVARD GOING NORTH AND IT GOES DOWN THAT TREE LINE RIGHT THERE AND YOU CAN SEE THE DITCH LINE GOING BACK TOWARDS...DRAG THE PICTURE DOWN TO THE SOUTH SOME IF YOU WOULD DRAG IT DOWN SOUTHERLY. AND HE WANTS TO GO UP. I'M TALKING ABOUT NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, THAT'S WHERE DEBORAH IS UP THERE. YEAH, WELL, DEBORAH KIND OF GOES RIGHT. SO GO UP A LITTLE BIT MORE, PLEASE. RIGHT THERE. SO THERE'S DEBORAH, THERE'S KNIGHT. AND SEE HOW THIS KIND OF COMES RIGHT UP. YOU WOULD TAKE KNIGHT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO RIGHT OF AWAY THROUGH THERE TO GET TO DEBORAH OR KNIGHT STREET. THAT'S THE EAST END OF ERIK EAST SUBDIVISION. RIGHT, AND IT DEAD ENDS THERE. [00:35:05] SO, JOHN, THERE'S NO WAY BECAUSE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING STRAIGHT, DUE NORTH AND THEN COOK TO THE BACK ROAD, BUT THAT'S A LOT THAT'S NOT AN [INAUDIBLE], BUT THAT'S WHAT CECIL IS SAYING. YOU KNOW WHAT TRAVIS IS SAYING ALSO, AND I AGREE WITH HIM AS IF WE NEED TO, THIS IS THE TIME TO MAKE THAT ACQUISITION OF RIGHT OF WAY. I JUST DON'T WANT US TO LOSE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONNECT, AT LEAST EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITIES. IT WOULD BE VERY COSTLY TO GO ACROSS THAT EAST WEST DITCH RIGHT THERE THOUGH, I WILL SAY THAT THE ONE THAT GOES BEHIND DALLAS STREET, YEAH. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A VERY EXPENSIVE BRIDGE, PROBABLY. SO WE CAN CROSS THAT OUT. AND THE WAY THINGS ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, I AGREE WE NEED TO FINISH FINISH OUT ANGLETON BOULEVARD, THESE HALF STREETS SHOULD NEVER HAVE EVER DONE, BUT IT WAS SO THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO FINISH THEM OUT. BUT EXTENDING ANGLETON BOULEVARD NORTH OF BASTROP TAKES YOU TO NOTHING BUT A DITCH. THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE [INAUDIBLE] IT'S NOT BUILT TODAY. THERE'S A LITTLE TURNOUT THERE OFF OF DALLAS AT ANGLETON, JUST TO THE NORTH. IT MAKES SENSE TO HOOK UP ANGLETON BOULEVARD BETWEEN DALLAS AND HOUSTON. SO, TRAVIS, WERE YOU SAYING MOBILITY WISE, LET'S EXPLORE THE CONNECTIVITY OR THE ACTUAL STREET THAT'S PRESENTLY THERE, THAT'S ONLY BROKEN IN? I'D LIKE TO SEE LET'S EXPLORE ABOVE. I MEAN, I LIKE FOR US, I THINK IT SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER THAT WE FINISH ANGLETON BOULEVARD AND COMPLETE THAT OUT WITH PROPER DRAINAGE. I DON'T WANT IT'S ONE THING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT RESIDENTS WILL DEAL WITH TRAFFIC AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS AND THEY'LL HAVE TO ADJUST ACCORDINGLY. BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO AFFECT THEM DRAINAGE WISE. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A BIG FIELD THAT PROBABLY DESERVES A LOT OF WATER TO WHERE IT WILL BE PUTTING A NEW SUBDIVISION IN. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ACTUAL UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE GOING ALONG. THERE'S NOT A LONG ANGLETON BOULEVARD. THOSE WERE OPEN DITCHES IN THERE. THAT DRAINAGE NEEDS TO GO TO THE NORTH TO THAT DITCH THAT RUNS EAST AND WEST FROM FROM BUCKNER AT THIRTY FIVE ALL THE WAY OVER TO BRUSHY BOW. THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT. AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE I THINK I DON'T THINK YOU'RE DISAGREEING WITH ME. I'M NOT SAYING YOU ARE. BUT AND THEN, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE IF IF THIS IS OUR TIME TO DO IT, I JUST DON'T WANT US TO BE REGRETTING NOT HAVE AT LEAST TALKED OR CONSIDERED THOSE OPTIONS. THAT'S ALL. SURE. SURE. BUT YOU KNOW, OTHER DEVELOPERS HERE, ARE YOU ALL HERE? YOU'RE OVER THERE, OK? HELLO, SIR. YOU ALSO DID THE GREEN TRAILS. NO. OK, WE'RE THERE. OH, OK. GOTCHA. I GOTCHA. SO YOU'RE HEARING OUR DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THAT IMPROVEMENT OF THAT ROADWAY, AT LEAST FROM NORTH AND SOUTH, YOU PROBABLY SEE THE ROUTE. IT'S IN TWO HALVES. I MEAN, IT WOULD NEED SOME IMPROVEMENT. AND IF WE HAD ADDITIONAL CARS THERE, WE WANT MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A GREAT BETTER ROAD TO TRAVEL, TRAVERSE ON. AND SO I DO AGREE WITH TRAVIS, IF WE CAN TALK TO THE DEVELOPERS AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN EITHER COST SHARE OR LOOK INTO IT. HOWEVER, WHICH WAY OBVIOUSLY WE'D LIKE THEM TO PAY FOR A GOOD PORTION, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU TO EXPLORE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE THERE. AND THEN ALSO EXPLORE WITH OUR ENGINEER AND WHATNOT THE MOBILITY TRACK TO CONNECT THE CONNECTIVITY I'M ALL THERE TO. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN WORK THAT THROUGH THE MOTION OR WHATEVER, OR JUST STAFF KNOWS WHAT DIRECTION TO START WORKING ON. OK, THANK YOU, TRAVIS. YEAH, AND THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE IS YOU HAVE THIRTY FIVE HOUSES ON HOUSTON AND DALLAS HAS A COUPLE MORE BECAUSE OF THE COURTS AND YOU'RE GOING TO ADD SIXTY FIVE HOUSES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THEM. I JUST SEE. I DO AGREE THAT ANGLETON BOULEVARD HAS TO BE FINISHED. WHAT'S THE CONDITION OF HOUSTON IN DALLAS RIGHT NOW? WELL, WHEN WE DID OUR HDR STUDY, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE CONDITION WAS OF THAT ROAD ABOVE THOSE ROADS? BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S ALREADY ISSUES WITH BOTH OF THOSE ROADS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND I KNOW SOMEBODY MADE A COMMENT ONLINE THAT MAYBE ONE OF US SHOULD DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AND I CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL HAVE. I JUST DID IT LAST WEEK ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THIS AGAIN. [00:40:02] AND THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN IS I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND POINT OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S A STUB OUT. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE TRAFFIC AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS, AND I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE'RE PUTTING MORE CARS ON A ON A ROAD THAT IS ALREADY GOT AN ISSUE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO COST THE CITY MORE MONEY IN COMING UP VERY SHORTLY. SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR CONDITION OF THAT ROAD IS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL CARS WE'RE ABOUT TO PUT ON IT. I MEAN, AND THE STUB OUT TO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DID THE STUB OUT THE OTHER DAY ABOUT ONE SIDED. WHAT STUB OUT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ANGLETON BOULEVARD, HOW WE TALKED ABOUT...WHICH STUB OUT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'M TALKING ABOUT ANGLETON BOULEVARD, WHERE IN THE PAST THEY ONLY HAD TO DO ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD UNTIL SOMEBODY DEVELOPED THE OTHER SIDE. SPECIFICALLY, I'M ASKING ABOUT THE STUB OUT. WE JUST DID IT ON SHANKS. WHICH STUB OUT ON ANGLETON BOULEVARD ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? STUB OUT IS THE WRONG TERM? I'M REFERRING TO ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHERE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WE NEED. WE NEED TO BUILD A [INAUDIBLE] STREET INTERSECTION, NEED TO BE POLICED. BUT WE JUST DID THAT AGAIN AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING OFF GIFFORD. THAT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE DOING THE SINGLE SIDED ROADS. THIS WAS DONE WAY BEFORE OUR TIME, AND WE'VE BUILT FULL STREETS SINCE WE'VE ALL BEEN SITTING AT THIS TABLE. EXCEPT FOR THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WAS THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GIFFORD SHAKES ROAD OK, YEAH. SO I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LIKE I SAID, I KNOW I'M REPEATING MYSELF A LITTLE BIT. BUT IF THE STATE OF DALLAS OR HOUSTON STREETS OR SOMETHING THAT ACCORDING TO YOUR STUDY, NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING LOOKED AT, THIS IS ALSO A TIME TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL. I MEAN, YOU JUST I MEAN, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I WANT US TO TAKE THAT KIND OF THAT VIEW WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THREE HUNDRED YARD VIEW OR UP IN THE SKY VIEW. HERE WE GOT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS. WE'LL COME BACK AND GIVE YOU. I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO YEAH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENTLY LIVING IN THESE STREETS. I'M SURE THEY'LL APPRECIATE A COMPLETED ANGLETON BOULEVARD, AND I'M SURE IF WE CAN FIX SOME OF THE DRAINAGE ALONE THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S GOOD AND ALL THESE THINGS ADD UP. BUT IF SOME OF THE ROADS NEED FIXED OR YOU KNOW, OR THE INTERSECTIONS, GO AHEAD AND FIX THOSE INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP AT HOUSTON AND ANGLETON BOULEVARD AND THE CONNECTIONS TO THE NEW SUBDIVISION AND DALLAS AND ANGLETON BOULEVARD AND, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE OR WHATEVER NEEDS TO GO ON THERE, WHATEVER THE OPPORTUNITY IS FOR US TO DO IT RIGHT AND DO IT BEST AND THEN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE PARTNERS. I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD JUST COME IN ANGLETON AND JUST DEVELOP WITHOUT THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, DON'T HELP TO MAKE THE BETTERMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO. SO HELP ME, CHRIS, JUST TO OR EVEN STAFF. SO THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY AND THEN WE START MOVING ON TO SHOULD WE APPROVE THIS, THEN WE START WORKING ON THE NEGOTIATIONS OF THE DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS. AND THIS MAY BE WHERE THAT PART COMES OUT IS STREET ENGAGEMENT. THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WHERE YOU ALL CAN WORK WITH THAT AND BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL NOW THAT Y'ALL KNOW DIRECTION, CORRECT? ASSESSMENTS AND POTENTIAL COSTS AND ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS. OK. WILL THAT HELP IS THAT TRAVIS? WE WOULD. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. I MEAN, IS THAT PART OF THE COMMENTS ARE CLEARED PRIOR? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? AND IF WE GIVE APPROVAL TONIGHT AND COMMENTS ARE CLEARED, IS THAT PART OF THAT? OR DO WE NEED TO JUST NOT TAKE ACTION? WELL, YOU'RE BACK TO THE SAME OPERATION BY LAW. I MEAN, ON THE PLATS, YOU EITHER APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS IF YOU TAKE NO ACTION AFTER 30 DAYS OF FILING THE PLAT BY OPERATION OF LAW, IT'S APPROVED. HOW BROAD ARE YOUR CONDITIONS, HOW HOW THE CONDITIONS HAVE TO BE EITHER PROVISIONS IN YOUR CODE OR CASE LAW, IT HAS TO BE LEGAL, IT HAS TO BE SOME LEGAL BASIS. WELL, I MEAN, LIKE PROVE CONDITIONED UPON THE COMPLETION OF ANGLETON BOULEVARD, NOT UNLESS THAT IS IN YOUR CODE. SO IF IF THERE'S A REQUIREMENT IN YOUR CODE THAT SPEAKS TO THAT TYPE OF THING, THEN YEAH, YOU CAN DO THAT. BUT IT'S PRETTY NARROW. THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THAT THANKS TO THE SUPREME COURT AND SEVERAL CASES ABOUT 30 YEARS [00:45:03] AGO, THERE HAS TO BE FIRST A NEXUS FOR THE ACTIONS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE DEVELOPMENT DO. AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS YOU CAN ONLY EXACT DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT'S IMPACT ON THE SYSTEM. SO IN THIS CASE, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN THAT SHOWS ANGLETON DRIVE AS BEING CONSTRUCTED UP IN THAT DIRECTION, THERE'S NO REAL NEXUS FOR REQUIRING AN EXTENSION OF THE STREET AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF IT IS THAT SIXTY FIVE LOTS ARE GOING TO GENERATE ABOUT SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY TRIPS A DAY, WHICH IS SIXTY FIVE TRIPS DURING THE PEAK HOUR. AND IF YOU DID A TRAFFIC ASSIGNMENT ON THIS, I DOUBT THAT YOU WOULD PUT AS MANY AS 10 TRIPS GOING TO THE NORTH ON ANGLETON DRIVE, WHICH MEANS THAT THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THAT IMPROVEMENT ISN'T GOING TO BE VERY LARGE ANYWAY, IF ANYTHING AT ALL. SO IT'LL BE MORE ON DALLAS AND HOUSTON. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN NECESSARILY FORCE THEM TO DO MAINTENANCE ON CITY STREETS THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT IF THERE WAS NOT ADDITIONAL VEHICULAR TRAFFIC GOING DOWN THE STREET. SUPREME COURT, UNFORTUNATELY, HAS DECIDED IT THAT WAY. YOU DON'T GET TO FORCE DEVELOPERS TO DO MAINTENANCE THAT THE CITY WOULD OTHERWISE BE DOING BECAUSE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK WE'RE WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING IT THE SAME. SO. IS THERE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ON THIS? HAVE WE DECIDED DID WE WAIVE THAT? SIXTY FIVE LOTS DOESN'T MEET ANY OF THE CITY'S CRITERIA FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. JUDITH, CAN WE ASK FOR ONE? WELL, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT A CONDITION OF PILOT APPROVAL, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BODY ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO DO THAT. I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING PROHIBITING YOU FROM DOING THAT, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T CONDITION PLAT APPROVAL ON IT. SO MY QUESTION IS SO OUR OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE TO APPROVE THE PLAT, APPROVE THE PLAT WITH CONDITIONS, BUT THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF EITHER ALREADY IN OUR CODE OR SOME SORT OF CONSTITUTIONAL OR STATUTORY AUTHORITY. CORRECT. AND THOSE ARE LIMITED, IS WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US. WELL, THEY'RE LIMITED WITHIN THE LIMITATION THAT YOU JUST STATED, WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS ONE THAT IS APPLICABLE WOULD BE WALTER'S ARENA. WE DON'T THINK THAT I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF, AGAIN, HOUSTON AND ANGLETON BOULEVARD ON BOTH SIDES, WHICH WILL BE THE WILL PRESENTLY THE WEST SIDE OF ANGLETON BOULEVARD AND THEN SOON BECOME THE EAST SIDE OF ANGLETON BOULEVARD. SEEMS LIKE THOSE WOULD BE, YOU'D WANT TO POSITIVELY ADDRESS THOSE. YEAH, THAT'LL BE DURING THE DESIGN REVIEW PHASE WITH THE WAY YOU TIE IN NEW STUFF TO THE EXISTING. I JUST LIKE CONTINUITY ALONE ALONG BOTH HOUSTON STREETS AND DALLAS STREETS. YEAH, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT I JUST I DON'T FEEL I'M FEELING A LITTLE RUSHED WITH THIS. AND THAT'S ALL I GUESS BECAUSE AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD EXPLORE IT IN THE LAST TIME THEY PRESENT IT. AND MAYBE I FELT MAYBE I'M LATE TO RAISE MY ISSUES. GENERALLY, I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE SUBDIVISION. I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THEIR THE BUILD OUT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE OTHER ISSUES AND DOING IT IN THE AREAS THAT I LEGALLY BOTH FROM, I GUESS THE STATE AS WELL AS WITHIN WHATEVER MEANS WE HAVE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE'RE STILL STEPS TO GO THROUGH. THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT REVIEW. SO THIS IS SORT OF THE INITIATION OF THE BALL TO START ROLLING TOWARDS GETTING THE FINAL [00:50:05] THING APPROVED, GET THROUGH DESIGN. AND IF WE APPROVE IT, I'M JUST ASKING, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. IF WE JUST APPROVE THIS, DO WE LOSE NEGOTIATING POWERS? I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, NO, YOU'VE ALREADY MOVED PAST THAT POINT. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT FOR YOU FOR ANGLETON BOULEVARD. WE'RE NOT GOING TO WORRY ABOUT DALLAS INTERSECTION ON YOUR ON THE CURRENT CITY SIDE ON THE WEST SIDE OF OF ANGLETON BOULEVARD OR HOUSTON BOULEVARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE ARE BACKED UP AND WATERS IN THEIR HOMES, AND WE'VE ALREADY BUILT THE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH THAT SITS UP HIGHER. SO THE ANSWER IS NO. I WOULD OFFER YOU, DON'T LOSE. YOU DON'T LOSE. THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET ON ANGLETON BOULEVARD. THE WEST'S HALF OF IT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED WHEN ANGLETON COUNTRY ESTATE WAS BUILT. WE REQUIRE THAT THE EAST HALF BE BUILT UNDER THIS SUBDIVISION, THIS LEVEL, SO IT WILL HAVE CONTINUOUS OR CONTINUOUS STREET BETWEEN DALLAS AND HOUSTON. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT SOUTH OF HOUSTON STREET. HOW MUCH IS THERE ALREADY? THE DRAINAGE DESIGN THAT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT, GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR ENGINEER TO ENSURE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FLOODING CAN BE ALLEVIATED OR MINIMIZED. THE STORM WATER ROUTE IS GOING TO GO NORTH INTO THAT BIG DITCH AND HEAD EAST SO IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN JERRY RIGGED SINCE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. OK, IT'S BEEN. IT'S BEEN A SORE SPOT FOR THAT PART OF TOWN FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND WHEN THAT EXTENSION OF AUSTIN OR WHATEVER IT IS DOWN THERE, SOUTH OF THE FURTHER SOUTH, ONCE THAT WAS PUT IN, IT'S SORT OF SIDESTEPPED ISSUES THEN TOO. SO IT WAS IT JUST IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO RECTIFY SOME ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD OUT THERE. AND THAT'S I'M NOT LIKE I SAID, THE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE IT'S A GOOD ONE. I'M JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN AND PROTECTING THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY THERE AS BEST AS WE CAN AND IMPROVING IT WHEREVER THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF, YOU CAN'T I UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T REBUILD THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION OVER. THAT'S BEEN DONE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WHEN THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE SEEK THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT BREAKING THE BANK. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A PRICE POINT. BUT. UM, ANYWAY, I THINK JOHN HAS SOME WORDS OF WISDOM. YEAH. THESE ARE ALL EXCELLENT POINTS AND THESE ARE GREAT DISCUSSION POINTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. THE THING THAT WE'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT IS JUST THE ACTUAL LAYOUT OF THE LIGHTS AND THE ACTUAL LAYOUT OF THE RIGHT AWAY. SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A DESIGN TO LOOK AT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AT THAT POINT. THEY ONCE WE GET THE PRELIMINARY LAYOUT, THIS IS WHERE IT IS. IT'LL GO INTO THE FINAL PLAN GO PROBABLY AT THAT POINT, PROVIDE DESIGN PLANS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT TO AT THAT POINT. THAT'S WHEN THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE BE. WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE THEM IS WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AND SAY, YES, THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE. YES, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE PAINTING ON THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST BASICALLY THE LAYOUT OF THE SUBDIVISION, THE SIXTY FIVE LOTS, AND THIS IS WHERE THE ROAD IS GOING TO COME AROUND. THERE'S NOT ANY REAL DESIGN TO SAY YES OR NO. THOSE DISCUSSIONS CAN BE ADDED AT THE NEXT TIME AND YOU DON'T LOSE ANY POWER AND THERE'LL BE A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. SO WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM AT THAT POINT TOO. I AGREE WITH YOU. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN CHASTISED BY DEVELOPERS IN THE PAST BECAUSE THEY SAID WE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING UP FRONT. SO I THINK IT'S GOOD TO GET THIS FEEDBACK NOW. SO THERE'S NOT THE SURPRISE LATER WHENEVER WE GET THE FINAL PLAT. AND HE'S HERE, SO HE'S HEARING ALL THE COMMENTS THAT'S THERE, SO HOPEFULLY BETWEEN THE TWO, THEY CAN START THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I'M NOT ASKING TO BUILD THE TAJ MAHAL OF ROADS OR ANYTHING, BUT I JUST DO WANT TO HAVE SOME CONCERNS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE AND THE FLOODING IN THAT AREA. SO GO AHEAD, SIR. I'M ANDREW ALLEMAND FROM BEACON LAND SERVICES. I DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ME ON THE MINUTES LIKE NODDING IN THE AUDIENCE, THOUGH, AND I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I USED TO BE A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND PLANNING DIRECTOR, SO I'M FROM THE CITY SIDE ORIGINALLY, SO I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS MENTIONED, BUT THE LOT DENSITY WAS ALREADY PLANNED OUT ALL THE WAY TO THAT DITCH ON THE EAST SIDE. SO MUCH SMALLER, LOTS EXTENDING THOSE TWO STREETS. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY RECTIFYING THE FACT THAT THAT STREET WAS TAKEN OVER FOR DRAINAGE AND THEN REDUCING THE DENSITY. BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. WHEN WE GO THROUGH WITH THE STAFF AND LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BOTH STORM WATER AND [00:55:02] STREET, A LOT OF THAT STUFF WILL BE DEALT WITH IN A LOT OF THAT STUFF IS DEALT WITH BY STAFF BEHIND THE SCENES. AND SO LIKE, WE'RE OUT HERE TALKING, BUT THERE'S HUNDREDS OF HOURS THAT WE DO BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR EVERYBODY. AND SO AND LIKE EVERYBODY SAID, THERE WILL BE A CONNECTION DOWN SOUTH. WE'LL BUILD THE OTHER HALF OF ANGLETON, OBVIOUSLY MAKING SURE THAT THE CONNECTIONS ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. IN TERMS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S THREE POINTS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN HOUSTON, DALLAS AND TO THE SOUTH ON ANGLETON. SO FROM A TRAFFIC STUDY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT A THRESHOLD YOU'RE GOING TO MEET HERE, BUT IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THE CITY FROM DOING THAT ON THEIR OWN, LIKE FROM A FROM A CITY SIDE, LIKE FROM WHEN I USED TO BE A DIRECTOR. WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE DONE A CITY BASED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND DONE THAT AS THE UMBRELLA ORGANIZATION. THEN WITHIN THAT, THE DEVELOPERS KIND OF FIT IN PIECE BY PIECE, AND THAT COULD BE LIKE A LARGER SCALE DISCUSSION LATER ON. BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY WORK WITH STAFF TO BE SENSITIVE TO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. SO TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK SERIOUSLY AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO WORK WITH STAFF THE BEST WE CAN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR COMMENT ABOUT TAKING ANGLETON BOULEVARD DOWN SOUTH? ARE YOU GOING ALL THE WAY OVER THE RAILROAD TRACK OR EACH TIME UP DOWN TO AUSTIN? OR IS THAT BASTROP OR AUSTIN? WHATEVER THAT'S THAT THE EAST WEST. AT THE VERY HEART OF THE SOUTH THE ROAD IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH, SO THE PLAN IS, I THINK, TO BUILD THE STREET OUT ALL THE WAY LIKE WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ANGLETON AND HOUSTON AND DALLAS KIND OF INTERSECT INTO THAT. AND I THINK FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY ASK FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD ADJACENT STREET HALF OF THE BOULEVARD. AND I THINK WE PLANNED ON CONNECTING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE SOUTH AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY ENGINEER TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. AND EXACTIONS ARE A WEIRD THING LIKE YOU FELT TONIGHT, LIKE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE DEVELOPER CAN AND SHOULD DO FROM AN IMPACT AND EXACTION STANDPOINT, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. BUT THE DEVELOPER KNOWS THAT STREETS ARE AN ISSUE HERE. LIKE WE'RE NOT JUST DOING OUR STREETS WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION. WE'RE ALSO IMPROVING THE ADJACENT RIGHT AWAY AND THEN A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE SENSITIVE TO THAT. WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL NEED TO DO. SO TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION, A LOT OF DESIGN THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN ACTUALLY BUY THE PROPERTY. SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO BUY IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO NOW THAT WE GET THROUGH TODAY, HE'LL CLOSE ON THE LAND AND THEN WE'LL GET ALL THE REALLY HEAVY LIFTING DONE ON THE DESIGN SIDE. OK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY MORE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR OTHER? YEAH, I'M JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE AND I'M JUST ANTICIPATING A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE I'M THINKING TOO MUCH, BUT THE BACK OR THE SOUTH PART OF THE PROPOSED FLAT, WILL ABUT TO THE HOMES THAT ARE BUILT OFF OF THE NORTH SIDE OF BASTROP THERE TO THE EAST OF ANGLETON ROAD, AND I SEE A LOT OF TREES, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF WHEN YOUR DEVELOPMENT COMES ALONG, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU MAY HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH SOME OF THEIR PRIVACY BEING. I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE BECAUSE I SAW THIS LIGHT JACKSON HAPPEN SO RIGHT. THE INTENT IS TO SAVE AS MUCH OF THOSE TREES AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S A VALUE ADD, OBVIOUSLY, TO THOSE LOTS AND FROM A PRIVACY, WE TRY TO SAVE TREES FROM A DEVELOPER STANDPOINT ANYTIME WE CAN, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE IN THE REAR LINE LIKE THAT. YEAH, IT'S NOT TO BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES. I JUST KNOW THAT WE MAY GET SOME VOICES FROM THE COMMUNITY IF YOU JUST CLEAR CUT ALL THOSE TREES AND THEIR PRIVACY IS ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THEIR BACKYARD. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN MENTIONING IT RIGHT NOW WILL GIVE ME A, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO GIVE THAT FEEDBACK TO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER, SO HE MAY TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT. SO. OK, THANK YOU. BECAUSE I JUST KNOW I WOULD ANTICIPATE PEOPLE HAVE COME ACCUSTOMED AND NOTHING BEHIND THEM, THE TREES. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S IF YOU WERE CLEAR CUT IT, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE SOME UPSET PEOPLE. SO ALSO, WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT IT OVER THERE AND REMEMBERED THAT ON GRAYSTONE, WE HAD THEM KEEP SOME SOME TREES TOWARD THE BACK OF THAT PROPERTY FOR DRAINAGE REASONS, TOO. SO IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE. YEAH, GOOD, BECAUSE I JUST I WOULD I MEAN, I KNOW IF I WERE LIVING THERE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S NOTHING IN A LOT IN TREES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WAS GONE. THAT WOULD BE A TOUGH. SO. ALL RIGHT, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? COUNCIL WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MAYOR I MOVE TO ACCEPT A PRELIMINARY REPLAT OF LIVE OAK RANCH SUBJECT TO THE CLEARING OF THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS. SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES THANK YOU GUYS. NUMBER 11 PRESENTATION DISCUSSION ON PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY [11. Presentation and discussion on a proposed development consisting of approximately 900 acres north of the City between SH 288 and FM 521 that is partially within the City’s Extraterritorial Jurisdiction.] [01:00:04] NINE HUNDRED ACRES NORTH OF THE CITY BETWEEN SOUTH HIGHWAY 28 AND FM521 THAT IS PARTIALLY WITHIN THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. MR. WALTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS 900 ACRES IS THE SAME 900 ACRES THAT WAS PRESENTED TO Y'ALL AS THE VENTANA DEVELOPMENT A FEW MONTHS BACK PLANNING THE. THE PROJECT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, AND THE P&Z SUGGESTED THAT THEY ADD SOME AREAS HAVING 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS, WHICH THEY DID REVISE THEIR PLAN TO INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE. THAT BEING SAID, DEVELOPERS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. ALRIGHT, COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING, I'M MARK [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT VICE PRESIDENT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT. WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY IN ALVIN. IT'S NINE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN ACRES. I'M SORRY, ANGLETON. GEEZ. WRONG COUNCIL MEETING TODAY. WRONG START. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT, WHO'S GOT THE? I THINK HE'S OVER THERE. CHRIS, ARE YOU GUIDING THE POWERPOINT? YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE. YOU'VE SEEN IT BEFORE. WE'VE GOT 288 ON THE EAST SIDE, WE'VE GOT 521 IN THE WEST SIDE, IT'S NINE HUNDRED ELEVEN ACRES. WE PROPOSE TWO HUNDRED AND TWO THOUSAND NINETY ONE LOTS. WE HAVE FIFTIES, SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES. WE HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-USE ESPECIALLY UP ON 288. WE HAD A PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH STAFF AND THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE PUT SOME SOME OF THOSE PURPLE SPECIALTY PODS IN THERE, BUT PERHAPS AN ACTIVE ADULT OR MAYBE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED TOWNHOMES, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO P&Z AND AND CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE PICK THE PRODUCT TO GO IN THERE. WE WERE PARTIALLY IN BRAZORIA COUNTY. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE CIRCULAR ARC OF YOUR ETJ. SO WHEN WE PRESENT OUR SPA, WHICH GUARANTEES YOUR FUTURE ANNEXATION, WE WOULD AND WE DO A DA WITH THE CITY STAFF, WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT THAT LITTLE SLIVER ON THE WEST SIDE BE PUT INTO YOUR ETJ. AND THEN THAT WOULD ALL BE GOING TO THE SPA FOR FUTURE ANNEXATION FOR THE CITY. WE HAVE MET WITH WITH P&Z. THEY SUGGESTED THE 70 FOOT POD THAT'S THAT BROWN ONE AT THE TOP. WE CAN QUITE EASILY FLIP THE PURPLE ONES TO 70, DEPENDING ON WHICH LOT SIZES SELL THE FASTEST. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT, WE WE CAN ONLY COME IN BY EXITING ANCHOR DRIVE. WELL, WE CAN'T COME IN TO THE NORTH OFF 521. BUT IF YOU WERE, TRY TO EXIT THE COMMUNITY, GO NORTH AND CUT ACROSS THAT RED LINE TO THE TOP. THERE'S NO CROSSOVER, SO EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TO EXIT DOWN THROUGH ANCHOR ROAD AND COME THROUGH THE SPAGHETTI BOWL AND COME OUT. BUT THERE IS AN ABILITY NORTH OF US TO EXIT OFF OF 288 AND RUN 521 TO OUR MAIN ENTRANCES ON THE WEST. WE HAVE POTENTIAL ACCESS TO 288 THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE ABOUT A $10 MILLION FEEDER. ONCE WE GET PAST THIS, THESE HURDLES AND WE'RE STARTING TO DEVELOP WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE CITY, TO THE COUNTY AND TO TXDOT MAYBE DOING A 380, 381 AND TRY TO CONTRIBUTE TO ACTUALLY BUILD THAT FEEDER SO THAT WE COULD EXIT INTO THE EAST. WE DO HAVE AN ETJ MOD IN PLACE AND WE DO HAVE A POTENTIAL SCHOOL SITE IN THE LAND PLAN. FOR SOMETHING THIS BIG, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE. WE ARE NOT IN THE CENTRAL CBD OF ANGLETON, WE ARE NORTHWEST. WE BELIEVE IT'S THE FIRST ACCESS. I THINK THERE'S AN THERE'S AN ENTRANCE EXIT BEFORE IT THAT TAKES YOU TO BUSINESS 288. BUT IT'S REALLY THE FIRST EXIT TO ANGLETON. IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT LOCATION. WE THINK IT'D BE JUST JUST THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH LOOKING FOR HOMES. NEXT ONE, PLEASE. ASHTON GRAY WANTS TO HAVE THE REPUTATION OF A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIX FOOT BRICK WALLS ALL UP AND DOWN 521, WE'LL HAVE BRICK WALLS DOWN OUR BOULEVARD TO THE EAST. IF WE DON'T HAVE BRICK WALLS, IT'LL BE AN UPGRADED SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE THAT IS STAINED BECAUSE THEY'LL GRAY AFTER A YEAR OR TWO. AND WE WANT TO HAVE A REAL UPSCALE FEEL TO THE PROJECT. WE'LL BE DOING A LOT OF TREE PLANTING ALONG THE ROADS, AND THE PONDS. WE'LL HAVE FOUNTAINS IN OUR PONDS, WE'LL HAVE SIDEWALKS ALONG THE PONDS AND THE CHANNELS. AND THEN WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE NATURE TRAIL SYSTEM UP TO THE NORTHEAST. THAT DARK AREA. WE'RE PURCHASING ABOUT A HUNDRED AND FIFTY ACRES THAT'S IN ITS WETLANDS. [01:05:05] WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT INTO AN AMENITY. WE'RE GOING TO CUT A TRAIL THROUGH THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT IT TO OUR MAIN TRAIL COMING DOWN THE THE ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT DITCH. WE CAN'T GATE THESE AREAS, SO THESE WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IN FACT, OUR REC CENTER IS GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OVERSIZE PARKING LOT IN CASE PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN THERE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR OF OUR TRAIL SYSTEM. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. THIS IS A BLOW UP. THE DARK RED IS THE SIX FOOT BRICK WALL, WHICH IS QUITE EXPENSIVE. WE WE HAVE TO HAVE A JUNIOR OLYMPIC SWIMMING POOL SO THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN DO SWIM MEETS. THAT'S A RECTANGULAR POOL DOWN THERE AND WE WANT TO HAVE LIKE A RESORT POOL JUST NORTH OF IT WITH THE LAZY RIVER CUTTING THROUGH THERE. THIS IS GOING TO BE A HIGHLY AMENITIZED NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT EXTRA. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE PLAYGROUNDS IN THE MAIN IN THE MAIN AMENITY CENTER AND IN OUR POCKET PARKS. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE. WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY IN ANGLETON. PARKS AND TRAILS WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT PROVIDING THIS TO THE TO THE PEOPLE GREAT PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON. WE WILL NEED NO UTILITIES FROM THE CITY. WE WILL HAVE TO DO ALL OF OUR WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE OURSELVES. BUT SINCE WE HAVE, WE'LL BE DOING AN SPA FOR A FUTURE ANNEXATION. ALL OF OUR PLANTS, WATER PLANTS, SEWER PLANTS, LIFT STATIONS WILL BE DESIGNED TO SUIT CITY SPECS SINCE THE CITY WILL BE TAKING IT OVER WHEN THEY ANNEX. WE WILL HAVE AN OPERATOR IN PLACE UNTIL YOU ANNEX AND THEN YOUR OWN PEOPLE WILL BE HANDLING THE OPERATIONS. WE HAVE MET WITH THE JUDGE, WE HAVE MET WITH COMMISSIONER. I WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT. I MET WITH COMMISSIONER LINDER, WE MET WITH COMMISSIONER ADAMS, WE MEET WITH OUR COMMISSIONER TOMORROW, WHICH IS COMMISSIONER CADE, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAVE ISSUES WITH DENSITY. THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS HANDLES THE DENSITY I HAD BOTH COMMISSIONER LINDER AND THE JUDGE MENTIONED THIS IS THEIR EIGHTY FEET. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GETTING FORTIES AND FORTY FIVE. AND THIS IS ABOUT WHAT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT HERE. SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF THUMBS UP FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND WE JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCEDURE SO THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. UNLESS YOU HAVE OH, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT OUR LOWEST PRICE POINT IS GOING TO BE THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. OK. THAT TAKES A HOUSEHOLD INCOME OF ONE HUNDRED TO 120, DEPENDING ON YOUR CREDIT. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN UPSCALE COMMUNITY. WE ARE AVERAGE ASPS ARE GOING TO BE THREE FIFTY THREE SEVENTY FIVE. THEY'LL BE GETTING INTO THE FOUR HUNDREDS, ESPECIALLY ON THE 7 ON THE 70S. SO WE THINK WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE OF THE COUNTY'S ISSUES. WE HOPE THIS WILL RESOLVE YOUR ISSUES ON DENSITY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. SO GO AHEAD. HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. YOU SAID IT WAS TWO THOUSAND NINETY ONE LOTS. ROUGHLY? IT'S OVER TWO THOUSAND. RIGHT NOW, IT'S TWO THOUSAND NINETY ONE. AND, DID YOU KNOW A BREAKDOWN, A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE TO BE 50, 60, 70S? FORTY SIX PERCENT. I THINK WE'RE. WE HAVE MORE SIXTIES THAN FIFTIES. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE LIKE 10 PERCENT OF THE SEVENTIES. I DON'T HAVE THE ON A SUBDIVISION THIS LARGE, WE HAVE TO RUN MULTIPLE PRODUCTS, OTHERWISE WE'LL BE HERE FOR 20 YEARS, SO WE HAVE 50S, 60S AND 70S ON THE SPECIALTY THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE ADULT WAS ONE THING STAFF MENTIONED OR ANY OTHER ISSUE THAT ANY OTHER TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT YOU THINK IS IN DEMAND. BUT THE BULK WILL BE THE 50S AND 60S. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR SEWER OR YOUR WATER FROM? WELL, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY INTO THE SURFACE WATER PEOPLE, AND THE BUYING COST IS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR OWN WELL. WE'LL HAVE TO DO ANOTHER WELL. ALSO, THERE'LL BE TWO WELLS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND SOURCE AFTER TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY CONNECTIONS. THE WATER PLANTS WILL BE BUILT TO THE CITY SPECIFICATIONS AND THAT COULD HELP THE CITY [01:10:02] WITH THEIR WATER NEEDS IN THE FUTURE. WE HAVE TO BUILD A SECOND WELL, JUST TO HAVE A BACKUP IN CASE THE FIRST WELL GOES DOWN. BUT BY THE TIME WE BUILD THE SECOND WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. WE SHOULD HAVE ADJACENT CAPACITY, RIGHT? NOT ADJACENT. WE SHOULD HAVE ABUNDANT AND MAYBE TOO MUCH CAPACITY. NOT ON WATER, SEWER WE'LL HAVE WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A JURISDICTIONAL DITCH, WE'LL DO A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. STORM SEWER. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OFF SITE DRAINAGE EASEMENT. THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR OUTFALL. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A STORM SEWER PUMP STATION BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DEPTH TO TO ADEQUATELY DRAIN THE PROPERTY. SO WE'LL BE PUMPING 50 PERCENT AND GRAVITY DRAINING THE OTHER 50 PERCENT, WHICH IS A COUNTY REQUIREMENT. WHEN YOU SAY I SEE AN AREA HERE, I'M JUST MIXED USE, WHAT ARE WE TALKING MIXED USE? YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ORANGE? YES. WELL, IF WE CAN REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH SEVERAL PARTIES AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BUILD THAT FEEDER, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME HIGHLY COMMERCIALIZED OPPORTUNITIES THERE. THAT JUST LETS US DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO. WE THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO EARLY FOR MULTIFAMILY, SO WE'RE THINKING THAT COULD BE A A MAJOR COMMERCIAL CENTER THERE IF WE CAN GET THAT FEEDER IN. NOW, IF WE CAN'T GET THE FEEDER IN, WE WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE TO CONVERT THAT TO A SINGLE FAMILY. SO, YEAH, I MEAN, SO I'M JUST CONCERNED YOU WOULD HAVE THE CAPACITY WITH YOUR WELLS AND SEWERAGE AND DRAINAGE TO TURN THAT FROM COMMERCIAL INTO MULTI-USE. I MEAN, TO A MULTIFAMILY. EXCUSE ME. WELL, IF WE DON'T GET THE FEEDER CONNECTION AND YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S AN ARROW ON THAT WHEN THAT ROAD TIES INTO THE FEEDER, THERE'S AN ARROW THERE BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET US TIE INTO 288. SO IF WE CAN'T GET THE FEEDER, IT WOULD BE HARD TO MARKET COMMERCIAL ALL THE WAY FROM 521 ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, SO WE WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE TO CONVERT THAT TO SINGLE FAMILY. I WOULD ADDITIONALLY TRY TO PUT A POND NEXT TO 288 TO THOSE HOMES ARE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER FROM 288. IF ANYBODY'S EVER LIVED CLOSE TO A HIGHWAY, THEY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. IT'S PROBABLY MOST LIKELY WOULD DO SHIFT ATTENTION TO THE RIGHT AND HAVE A LITTLE BUFFER. AND I'D EVEN LIKE TO LEAVE A TREE BUFFER BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY BLOCKED ROAD NOISE, TXDOT'S WALLS TWENTY FIVE FOOT HIGH CONCRETE, BUT YOU COULD BE TWO HUNDRED FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE AND STILL SEE THE HIGHWAY. IT'S IT'S HEAVY PLANTING, THICK TREES, PINE TREES, OAK TREES. HEAVY PLANTING IS THE BEST THING TO BLOCK NOISE NOW THAT GOES COMMERCIAL. YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T WE WOULDN'T NEED TO DO THAT. UNDERSTAND, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I GUESS IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE NOT STUCK WITH A BUNCH OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES. I THINK THIS IS OUR [INAUDIBLE]. FOR THE RECORD, RICH [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE MOTOR LAW GROUP, LET ME LET ME TRY TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION. TWO WAYS, REALLY. YOU HEARD WHAT YOU HEARD, MARK SAY, IS THAT THAT AREA THAT'S IN ORANGE. IT'S A WILD CARD. THAT'S WHY IT'S LABELED AS MIXED USE. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHETHER WE CAN GET THE FEEDER OR NOT. AND THAT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER AND TXDOT CAN GET TOGETHER ON AN AGREEMENT. AND THAT'S BEEN DONE UP AND DOWN THE 288 CORRIDOR, RIGHT? IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WANT TO PURSUE WHERE WE GO TO TXDOT. WE TRY TO GET FRONTAGE ROADS. THERE WILL BE A CONTRIBUTION THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED FROM US. THERE WILL BE CONTRIBUTION THAT WOULD COME FROM TXDOT, MAYBE THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THROUGH A 380 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE DEFINITIVE USES ARE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO BUILD A FRONTAGE ROAD FOR A BUNCH OF SINGLE FAMILY, RIGHT? SO THAT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING WITH THE FRONTAGE ROAD. AND CAN WE MAKE A DEAL? BUT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE CERTAINTY AND HOW YOU DEAL WITH IT ALL WE'RE ASKING, I THINK FOR FOR FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT IS DIRECTION FOR STAFF TO GO NEGOTIATE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND A AND A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT SO THAT WE CAN GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO AND HOW WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT AND THAT SORT OF THING AND ALL THAT WILL BE BE FLESHED OUT. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE TONIGHT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING IN YOUR CITY? ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF THE THE PROPOSED LAND PLAN IN GENERAL? ALL THAT WILL BE WORKED OUT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS, AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? [01:15:02] NO, YOU DID. YOU DON'T WANT. WE COULD ADDRESS THAT IN THE DA. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE LEFT WITH. RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY. YEAH. AND I MEAN, LOOK, THE MULTIFAMILY, THE COMMERCIAL AND ALL THAT. AGAIN, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT I SUSPECT THE 288 FRONTAGE ROAD IS A LONG WAYS DOWN THE WAY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOT A DAY ONE TYPE STUFF, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE STARTING ON 521 AND GOING THIS WAY, IT'S PROBABLY END OF PROJECT TYPE STUFF. YOU KNOW, THE COMMERCIAL GUYS ARE GOING TO TELL YOU WE'VE GOT TO HAVE ROOFTOPS TO MAKE THE COMMERCIAL WORK. MULTIFAMILY IS OFTEN A COMPONENT OF THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT IT WILL BE OR NOT, 288'S GOT ENOUGH TRAFFIC THAT YOU MAY NOT NEED IT RIGHT. I JUST DON'T KNOW. RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, ALL THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAMMER OUT IN A DEFINITIVE AGREEMENT ON 288. DO WHAT WE DO ON THAT. AND I'M SURE THAT Y'ALL WILL WANT SOME, SOME CONCESSIONS AND SOME DEFINITIVE LAND USES AT THAT POINT, I WOULD THINK. IF WE AS A COUNCIL WERE TO REQUIRE YOU TO MEET THE 60 FOOT MINIMUM AND NOT GO ANYTHING LESS THAN 60, IS IT VIABLE? BECAUSE I NEED THREE, IF NOT FOUR LOT POSITIONS. I WOULD BE STARTING AT THE SIXTIES OR THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES. I DON'T. SO THE PROBLEM WITH WITH HAVING WITH MARK'S TALKING ABOUT IS IS HAVING DIFFERENT LOT SIZES BECAUSE THAT GIVES YOU DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS AND. SURE. PRODUCTS AND ALL THAT. IF YOU JUST TRY TO SELL SIXTIES, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE PRICE POINT EFFECTIVELY. I'M TALKING ABOUT MINIMUM OF 60, SO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE LOTS, RIGHT? IN ORDER TO HAVE THREE PRICE POINTS, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE 60S, 70S AND 80S, RIGHT? AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE MARKET HERE AT THIS TIME. NOW, KEEP IN MIND, THE LOWEST SALES PRICE FOR THE FIFTIES IS THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND THAT TAKES A FAMILY INCOME OF ONE HUNDRED TO ONE TWENTY. SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S A PRETTY INTENSE HOME. I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT THAT, THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SIXTIES, THAT YOU HAVE MADE SIXTIES YOUR MINIMUM, BUT THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE'LL DO A PUB WITH THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES WHERE THEY HAVE 60 FOOT MINIMUMS. AND AS LONG AS WE BRING THEM A DEAL LIKE THIS AND SHOW THEM THAT THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY, THEN THEY'LL WAIVE THAT MINIMUM LOT SIZE AS LONG AS WE DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN REPRESENTS. AND THE COUNTY HAS NOT HAD ANY OBJECTION TO IT JUST YET. YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS SAY. AND THEIR REQUIREMENT IS 80. SO I MEAN, OUR REQUIREMENT OF 60 IS LESS THAN WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT TO MARK'S POINT, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 50 IN THIS SETTING HIGHLY AMENITIES WITH BRICK WALLS AND LANDSCAPED TREES ALONG ALL THE ROADS AND ALL THAT AND ALL THAT GOES IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. YOU KNOW, WE COMMIT TO MAKE THAT. SO IT A 50 FOOT PRODUCT IN A MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT FROM A 50 FOOT PRODUCT ON A STANDALONE 50 ACRE PROJECT THAT HAS NO AMENITIES AND NO AND NO BRICK WALL AND LANDSCAPING, THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND SO I WOULD I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO LOOK AT LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. I MEAN, I DO HAVE CONCERN ABOUT YOUR AMENITIES TOO. YOUR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REC CENTER, WE HAVE NICE PARKS AND YOU WOULD GO AND BUILD THE SCHOOL DISTRICT JUST BUILT A BRAND NEW NATATORIUM FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN BE USED. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN BASICALLY COMPETITION INSIDE YOUR SUBDIVISION BECAUSE WHY WOULD I IF I LIVED IN YOUR SUBDIVISION, WHY WOULD I WANT TO GO BE A MEMBER OF THE ANGLETON REC CENTER WHEN I HAVE MY OWN INSIDE YOUR SUBDIVISION? YEAH, I MEAN, ALL THAT WOULD BE, I MEAN. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DO. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL PART OF THE DISCUSSION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT MOST COMMUNITIES OF THIS SIZE HAVE A SWIM CLUB THAT THAT WANTS THEIR OWN POOL IN THE COMMUNITY. IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE THAT THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, THEN WE COULD BUILD SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY PROVIDED, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD SOMETHING ELSE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M OK WITH A POOL OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO SELL YOUR PROPERTY WITH. I KNOW THAT'S A SALES POINT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT OR AREA FOR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL [01:20:04] BECAUSE I THINK. OUR ISD IS PROBABLY GETTING TO THE POINT, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE DEVELOPED WOULD CERTAINLY STRESS. I HAVE A CALL INTO YOUR SUPERINTENDENT. SHE HAS NOT RETURNED MY CALL, SO I WILL BE PUSHING THAT. SO IT WOULD MOST DEFINITELY BE NEEDED BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY WE'RE ALREADY IN A AND THIS IS KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM, GENTLEMEN. I. WE'RE ALREADY POSITION. WE HAVE ABOUT 20 100 LOTS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS BEING BUILT. MOST OF THOSE LOTS ARE OF THE 50 FOOT VARIETY. SO, I MEAN, WILL THEY BE AS NICE AS WHAT Y'ALL PLAN DEVELOP? I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, YOU CERTAINLY SEEM LIKE YOU ARE INTENT IS TO SET A HIGH STANDARD. AND YOUR PRICE POINT CERTAINLY IS THAT. I MEAN, I DON'T DISAGREE. THREE. THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR WHAT I ASSUME WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN THE LOW TWOS. I GUESS FOR A SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, ON A. FOOTPRINT. SO I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I'M CERTAINLY INTRIGUED, BUT I DO KIND OF SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS AS JOHN ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERCENTAGE OF 50 FOOT LOTS. SO. I FEEL [INAUDIBLE] AT THE MOMENT. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DID IT. I'M NOT FAULTING YOU. NO, NO. I MEAN, I GET IT. YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING YOU'VE GOT TO DO BUSINESS. SO I MEAN, WE'RE NOT. WELL, 60 IS OUR MINIMUM AND YOU'RE ASKING TO GO LOWER THAN 60. I WOULD SEE LET YOU KNOW SUBSTANTIALLY OVER 50 PERCENT OF 60, FOR SURE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU TALK ABOUT THE MARKET, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN IN ANGLETON THAT OUR EVEN OUR LARGER LOT SELL. EVERYTHING IN ANGLETON HAS BEEN SELLING. SO I DON'T I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'M ALSO SEEING OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN OUR CITY THAT SOMETIMES REFUTES THAT. NOT NOT FAR FROM RIO IS SUN LAKE ESTATES AND SAND CREEK ESTATE, [INAUDIBLE]. SHENANGO LAKES IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM, ACTUALLY. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY MORE STATE STYLE, SO THEY'RE BIGGER LOTS, BUT THEY'RE THROWING UP HOUSES OUT THERE. SO I MEAN, THE OPPORTUNITY IS [INAUDIBLE]. I'M JUST SAYING I HAD A REALTOR COME TO ME THE OTHER DAY AND SAY, HEY, I'M LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE 70 FOOT TYPE HOME, SOMETHING I CAN PUT ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS HOUSE ON, AND WE DON'T HAVE A MARKET FOR THAT. THERE'S JUST THE VOID RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NOT, SO. EITHER HAVE AIR TO JOKES THAT ONE HUNDRED FOOT LOT OR YOU HAVE SMALL LOT. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. AND I MEAN, I THINK I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IS HIT THE HIT THE MARK WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S EIGHTY HERE AND THERE'S FORTY FIVE HERE. WE'RE TRYING TO BE IN HERE, RIGHT? AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I'D. THERE'S ALWAYS THE DEBATE ABOUT WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE LOT MIX, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT REASONABLE PEOPLE WILL DEBATE ABOUT. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MASTERPLAN COMMUNITIES A LITTLE FURTHER UP 288, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN CAN GET A GET SOME NUMBERS ON WHAT THOSE RATIOS LOOK LIKE AND GIVE THEM TO YOU. SO YOU CAN HAVE SOME PERSPECTIVE ON, OK, WELL, HERE'S WHAT A COMMUNITY WITH A MIX THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS LOOKS LIKE. I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF MY TALKING POINTS IS I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY IOWA COLONY WITH LITERALLY NO INFRASTRUCTURE CAN DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, 70 FOOT LOTS WITH THREE HUNDRED AND NINETY THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND HOUSES ON IT. BUT YOU GO 15 MILES SOUTH AND WE CAN'T. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S NOT EVEN 50 MILES, PROBABLY, PROBABLY LESS THAN THAT. AS THE CROW FLIES, IT'S PROBABLY 12. SO AND YOU HAVE ACCESS TO 288. SO IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT. YOU'RE RIGHT OFF OF 288. I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I WOULD I JUST WOULDN'T LIKE TO KNOW, WHY IS IT THAT THAT BYPASSED ANGLETON? THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY THING. GOT THE [INAUDIBLE] THE STERLING LAKES, THE LAKES OF SAVANNAH, ALL THOSE ITEMS AND THEY HAVE THEY DO HAVE I'M SURE THEY HAVE 50 FOOT LOTS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S IT'S THE BASE THERE'S IT'S NOT THE BEDROCK IN WHICH THEY'RE BUILT SO. LET US GET YOU THAT DATA. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY READILY AVAILABLE, I KNOW SEVERAL OF THOSE DEVELOPERS I CAN I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW. SITTING HERE WITH THAT MIX LOOKS LIKE I LIVE IN SIENA, AND I CAN TELL YOU THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE HOUSES HAVE BEEN BUILT LATELY OR 50S ON 50S, AND THAT'S A VERY [01:25:01] SUCCESSFUL AND POPULAR [INAUDIBLE]. FIFTIES IN SIENA. OH YEAH, IT'S ALMOST THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM. THE OLD SECTION WASN'T 50. THEY HAD A MIX OF OF 50 60 70S. I THINK THEY STOPPED DOING EIGHTIES IN PROBABLY 08. RIGHT. NOW THEY MAY. I THINK THEY BROUGHT SOME OF THOSE BACK. BUT BUT AGAIN, LET US GET YOU THAT DATA. I THINK I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT BUT CLEARLY THAT THE MIX RATIO IS SOMETHING Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED AND I'LL TRY TO GET THAT FOR YOU. I'M TRYING TO I'D LIKE WE'RE ALL UP HERE TRYING TO GET REACH A COMFORT LEVEL. WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF DOING SOMETHING WE'RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO DOING. WE'RE LIVING IN A TOWN THAT PREDOMINANTLY IS ZONED SIX AND SEVEN, WHICH IS 60S AND 70S AND THERE. SO AND I'M SURE YOU'VE DONE YOUR RESEARCH OF ANGLETON. WE WERE SITTING HERE WITH THESE LOTS JUST INUNDATED. WE FEEL LIKE WITH FORTY FIVE TO 50 LOTS AND WE'RE WE'RE WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO START MOVING INTO THOSE. YEAH. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE WARM BODIES HIT THE STREET YET. WE'RE IN. WE NEED THE COMFORT LEVEL OF DOING THIS, THAT THE PEOPLE WILL COME, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT TO JUST WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING LIKE A BUNCH OF SARDINES TOTALLY CRAMMED IN BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE STYLE OF ANGLETON AND THAT HAS BEEN. WE DO HAVE TO LISTEN TO OUR THE PEOPLE THAT ELECT US UP HERE. YEAH, NO. AND LOOK, I THINK OUR GOALS ARE ALIGNED THERE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE WANT YOU TO BE COMFORTABLE. WE WANT PEOPLE WHO MOVE IN HERE TO BE COMFORTABLE. YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY GIVES YOU, PARTICULARLY ON A SCALE, THIS LARGE RIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE JUST RECTANGLES AND EVERYBODY'S PACKED IN AND YOU HAVE [INAUDIBLE] LINEAR STREETS. AND SO AGAIN, I KNOW IN YOUR MIND YOU'VE GOT, HEY, THIS IS MY VIEW OF WHAT A 50 FOOT LOT LOOKS LIKE. MAYBE LET US GET YOU SOME DATA. LET US TAKE YOU TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE 50 FOOT LOTS THAT ARE NOT PACKED IN. LIKE YOU DESCRIBE, THEY DON'T FEEL PACKED IN BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A BUNCH OF OPEN SPACE AROUND THEM AS WELL. YOU KNOW, I KNOW TERRY, WHO'S THE ENGINEER. HE COULD GIVE YOU A LAND PLAN THAT WAS ALL 60S. IT WAS PACKED IN IT. IT PROBABLY BE THAT WOULD MEET ALL YOUR REQUIREMENTS AND PROBABLY BE TWICE AS MANY LOTS. RIGHT? IT'D MEET EVERY ONE OF YOUR REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE 60 FOOT LOTS AND BE TWICE A FAT, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WANT. THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD. YEAH, WE JUST GOT THROUGH TALKING ABOUT A PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WAS 60 FOOT LOT SUBDIVISION. RIGHT. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD. YEAH THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE LOOK LIKE. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A STREET IN FRONT OF IT WITH SEWER PIPE STICK UPS WAITING FOR A BUILDER TO SHOW UP WITH A HOUSE, YOU KNOW? I HOPE THAT'S NOT NOT WHAT WE END UP WITH. AND I ECHO CECIL'S THOUGHTS. I MEAN, IT'S A COMFORT THING FOR ME AND IT IS ANSWERING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND I AND AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL SUBDIVISION. YOU'RE TALKING TWENTY ONE HUNDRED HOMES. IT'S NOT IN PER SAY ANGLETON CITY PROPER WILL BE AT SOME POINT IN TIME. YOU CAN TOTALLY CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMICS OF THE CITY WITH ONE DECISION. WITH THIS ONE VOTE AND BUILDING A CITY OF OF TWENTY ONE HUNDRED HOMES WITH THE POTENTIAL ADDITION OF AND THIS IS WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS OR CONDOS OR MIXED USE OR MIXED MULTIFAMILY THAT THAT NUMBER GROWS. YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S NOT ONE TO ONE HUNDRED TWENTY ONE HUNDRED NOW IT'S THREE THOUSAND OK, AND THAT'S UPWARDS UP TO NINE TO TWELVE THOUSAND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE PER HOME. WE'RE A CITY OF NINETEEN THOUSAND. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST ALMOST DOUBLED OUR WHOLE POPULATION WITH ONE SUBDIVISION. AND THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DECISION, THAT'S PRETTY WEIGHTY IN MY MIND, AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO BE REALLY COMFORTABLE BEFORE I MAKE THAT DECISION. IT'S NOTHING AGAINST YOU GUYS, BUT THAT'S THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON, AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST JUMP INTO IT WITHOUT REALLY EXPLORING EVERYTHING AND BEING COMFORTABLE. I JUST I FEEL THE PRESSURE WHEN I'M SITTING HERE SAYING, OK, I'M WILLING TO MAKE THAT VOTE TO GO AHEAD AND DOUBLE THE SIZE OF ANGLETON. AND LOOK, WE'RE NOT. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS HE ON, YOU KNOW, MAKING A DECISION LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY FORTY FIVE. SO WE HAVE MORE 60S THAN FIFTIES. WE HAVE TOP BUILDERS INTERESTED IN THIS. WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] WOODS, PERRY. WE HAVE WEEKLY JUST TALKED ABOUT TALK WITH US. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE SOME REALLY GOOD BUILDERS BUILDERS THAT DON'T BUILD ON FORTIES AND FORTY FIVES. SO THIS IS THIS COULD BE THE NEW PRECEDENT OF WHAT ANGLETON WOULD WANT. SO IT IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT WAS YOUR LAST DEVELOPMENT? [01:30:01] LET ME JUST BEFORE WE GET THE THIS IS JUST THE START OF THE CONVERSATION, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU'VE GIVEN US SOME GOOD FEEDBACK BACK HERE AND WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU MAYBE SOME DIRECTION TO US AND STAFF. THERE'S THERE'S THE BIG PICTURE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT DENSITY AND LOTS SIZE MIX AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND THAT IT SOUNDS TO ME LISTENING TO YOU GUYS TALK. WE NEEDED TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU GUYS GETTING INTO WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE. AND SO Y'ALL CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. SO YOU GET COMFORTABLE WITH IT. WE WANT, I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO DEVELOP. IF YOU GUYS ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT, THAT BECOMES PROBLEMATIC FOR EVERYBODY, RIGHT? AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF GETTING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DONE, GETTING A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT DONE THAT THE COUNTY REQUIRES IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. AND I THINK THOSE CAN GO PARALLEL, RIGHT? Y'ALL JUST IF Y'ALL COULD GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON HOW Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE INFORMATION, DO YOU WANT? I MEAN, IS THIS A ONE ON ONE? WANT TO SIT DOWN ONE ON ONE WITH EACH Y'ALL? DO WE WANT TO GO DO SOME FORWARD OR SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES WITH SOME OF THE BUILDERS THAT MARK'S MENTIONING? I MEAN, JUST GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW Y'ALL WANT TO APPROACH IT. WE'RE HAPPY TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS NECESSARY TO GET Y'ALL ALL THE FACTS THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. DO YOU HAVE US? I'D ASK THIS, BUT DO YOU HAVE A SIMILAR CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT SOMEPLACE THAT WE COULD JUST AT OUR LEISURE DRIVE THROUGH SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE? I'VE BEEN WITH ASHTON GRAY FOR NINE MONTHS. FOR 40 YEARS, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS. I DID. TAMRON FOR DL HORTON WAS ONE OF THE LAST THINGS I DID IN WEST HOUSTON. IT'S EIGHT THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED LOTS. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO THIS. WHAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THIS, TERRY? SO POMONA IS JUST UP 288. YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF IT. WE DO A LOT OF WORK FOR HILLWOOD. AND AND SPEAKING OF THE LOT SIZES, EVEN I MEAN, THEY DO HAVE 45S AND 40S IN THAT COMMUNITY. THEY'VE GOT 50S, 60S AND 70S AS WELL. THEIR PRICE POINTS BEEN AMAZING WHERE IT WAS AND [INAUDIBLE] THEY SAID THEY WERE AVERAGING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE]. WHEN WE STARTED THE DEAL LOW THREES. SO KIND OF WHERE THEY WERE AT. THEY WERE STARTED AT TWOS, LOW TWOS TO THE UPPER THREES AND NOW IT'S IN THE UPPER FOURS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THAT COMMUNITY. THEY NEVER THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE WITH MULTIFAMILY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MULTIFAMILY, JUST ONE. BY THE TIME THEY GOT THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF HAD THESE MIXED USE LITTLE SQUARES BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. IT COULD BE AGE RESTRICTED. AGE TARGETED COULD BE MORE OF A TOWNHOME CONCEPT. BUT YOU DO HAVE TO PUT SOME SOME PARAMETERS ON WHAT THAT IS WHEN YOU DO DEVELOP AN AGREEMENT. SO YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE. IT'S PROBABLY MORE ON THE FINISHES THAN IT IS ON THE LOT SIZES. IT'S LIKE THREE SIDES BRICK PITCHES. SO MANY PLANNING FOR A HOUSE BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THAT'S REALLY WHAT MAKES THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITIES MAKE THERE. WE'LL GET YOU A LIST. I'VE SAID IT WAS A HARD QUESTION TO ASK FOR, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IF YOU COULD ANSWER IT. THAT'S A GOOD ONE, THOUGH. YEAH, BECAUSE I COULD PULL BECAUSE I MEAN, [INAUDIBLE] IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I MEAN, EVEN [INAUDIBLE] GOT 40S IN IT. AND IT DOES. AND IT'S GOT IT'S BOTH. IT'S THE TWO CITIES. SO THE IOWAN COLONY SIDE IS PROBABLY THE SIDE THAT HAVE THE SMALLEST LOTS JUST IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. BUT I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. WE SHOULD WE CAN DO THAT PRETTY EASILY GET THE MASTER PLAN AND SEND THEM TO YOU GUYS. WHILE I'VE ALWAYS FELT IT'S VERY HELPFUL IN THIS. JUST LIKE I HATE USING THIS WORD BECAUSE MY PLANNERS LIKE, LOVE IT, BUT IT'S CALLED A DESIGN CHARRETTE. CALLED A WHAT? LIKE A WORKSHOP, OK, WHERE YOU SIT DOWN AND LIKE, YOU GET, YOU BRING ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS IN AND YOU JUST TALK ABOUT IT AND GET FEEDBACK. AND THEN BY THE TIME IT'S ALL DONE, IT'S NOT YOUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT OUR IT'S OUR. ALL OF US TOGETHER, YOU KNOW? YOUR HAVE MORE BUY-IN IN IT. AND THEN LATER ON, YOU'RE LIKE, WHY DID WE WHY DO WE DO THAT ? VERSUS. AND IT'S JUST IT'S PRETTY. IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY EMPOWERING. EMPOWERING, I THINK. GOTTA GO THROUGH THAT. YOU LEARN A LOT ON BOTH SIDES. CHRIS, YOU'VE BEEN PATIENTLY RAISING YOUR HAND. SO I HAVEN'T HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH Y'ALL OFFICIALLY. I TALKED TO JASON A LITTLE BIT [INAUDIBLE], BUT WOULD YOU ALL CONSIDER, FOR EXAMPLE, GIVING THE CITY FIVE ACRES OR FIVE TO SOMETHING ACRES FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT OR EMS OR WHATEVER PUT A FACILITY OUT THERE? SO AS THE CITY GROWS, WE'RE NOT HUNTING FOR PLACES THAT YOU'VE GOT A PLACE THAT WE COULD [01:35:06] PUT [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH, I THINK THAT'D BE PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS WITH WITH THE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I MEAN, THAT'S SO MY BACKGROUND IS I'VE DONE A BUNCH OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS, RIGHT? SIENA PLANTATION'S ONE WHERE THAT INCLUDED A COUPLE OF FIRE STATION SITES INCLUDED A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. I MEAN, THAT'S VERY COMMON IN THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FIVE ACRES OR WHERE IT WOULD BE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO NEED CITY SERVICES OUT THERE. FIRE, POLICE, RIGHT? MAYBE EVEN PLACE TO PAY WATER BILLS ONCE THE CITY TAKES OVER. I MEAN, THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE TABLE. SO [INAUDIBLE] TO START WITH BECAUSE RATHER THAN JUST SPRING SOMETHING ON YOU BECAUSE WE'VE GOT BASICALLY THREE POWER STATIONS AROUND TOWN AND LOOKING AT, OK, WE'RE FIXING TO HAVE TO GET WE'VE GOT TO REACH OUT FURTHER. WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO DRIVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO HELP PUT OUT FIRES. BUT FOR EXAMPLE. YOU ARE THIS IS IN THE AREA THAT ANGLETON FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICE. [INAUDIBLE] WE ALREADY SERVICE IT. BUT BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IN SIENA, THE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT WAS AND ETJ DEVELOPMENT, THERE WAS A FIRE PROTECTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MUD AND THE CITY WHERE THE CITY PROVIDED THE SERVICES. THE MUD PAID FOR THOSE SERVICES. RIGHT. AND THEN AFTER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOUSES, THERE WAS A FIRE STATION BUILT RIGHT. SO THAT CAN ALL BE PART OF THE PACKAGE AND IS PRETTY COMMON. I THINK THAT PART IS PART OF AN ESD AS WELL, SO THAT MAY BE THE OVERLAY THAT'S JUST NORTH OF THE CITY LIMIT. SO YEAH, AND SO DO YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE A PROPERTY TAX OR SALES TAX OR? THEY DO HAVE AN ASSESSMENT FOR THE ESD. YEAH. PROPERTY OR SALES OR BOTH? PROPERTY. [INAUDIBLE] 10 CENTS USUAL. THE MAX. YEAH THERE AT THE MAX. OK. SO THAT I MEAN, THERE MAY THEN. SO MAYBE THIS IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MUD, THE ESD AND THE CITY ON HOW TO DO ALL THAT AND HOW TO PAY FOR ALL THAT. BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GETTING 10 CENTS OFF OF HERE, THEY'LL HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY TO PAY FOR A FIRE STATION AND EQUIPMENT AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO WHAT'S THE LAST CITY YOU'VE DONE BUSINESS WITH? MANVILLE, WE JUST CONCLUDED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH MANVILLE FOR. YOU TALKING ABOUT ME PERSONALLY OR THE [INAUDIBLE] WE DOUBLED TAMRON FROM LIKE FORTY TWO HUNDRED TO EIGHTY FIVE HUNDRED LOTS. I KNOW SOMEBODY WHO PROBABLY HAS A CONNECTION WITH [INAUDIBLE]. POSSIBLY. WE ATTENDED A DINNER WITH GO RIDE AROUND [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE MAYOR. I GOT A TICKET AT [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER] DON'T HOLD IT AGAINST ME. IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER. SO DID GRADY. GRADY DID WHEN HE WAS DRIVING ME TO A MEETING. ALL RIGHT. SO I GOT TO GIVE IT. SO IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T DRIVEN THE TEXAS HERITAGE PARKWAY, THAT'S A PROJECT I WORKED ON FOR 10 YEARS AND IT'S IN [INAUDIBLE] AND IT'S ALL ROUNDABOUTS FOR SIX AND A HALF MILES. IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN THAT ROAD, PLEASE GO DRIVE IT. IT IS WAY COOL AND IT'LL CHANGE YOUR IMPRESSION ON ROUNDABOUTS AND SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS. YOU GONNA DO ROUNDABOUTS IN THIS ONE? THESE GUYS DON'T HAVE A PLAN YET, BUT I HAVEN'T TWISTED THEIR ARM YET. I'D NEVER BUILD A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AGAIN IF IT WAS UP TO ME, BUT. PARKWAY. PARKWAY. WE'LL BE HERE FOR TWO HOURS TALKING ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS. TAKES ME BACK TO THE UK. YEAH, WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU. I SAY A WHOLE LOT OF I APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING INTEREST IN GOING TO WHAT YOU ALREADY DONE TO SHOW INTEREST IN POTENTIALLY INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY OR OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY ONE DAY BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. YOUR LOT SIZE, YOU KNOW. YEAH, WE'RE AT THAT POINT TURNING POINT RIGHT NOW. I DID MEET OR I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH A COUNTERPART OVER IN ALVIN, AND THEY DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE I'VE ASKED THEM ABOUT HOW THEY'RE DOING THEIR LOT SIZES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE JUST MAKING THEM AVERAGE REQUIREMENT OF SIZE AND THEN THAT OF ALL THE LOTS AND THEN THAT FORCE THE FLEXIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO. WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT EXPLORED THAT. I JUST TALKED TO THE GENTLEMAN JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, SO I HAVEN'T SHARED THE MESSAGE. THAT'S WHAT ALVIN'S BEEN DOING IS THEY HAVE A MINIMUM SQUARE LOT AVERAGE FOR A DEVELOPMENT AND THEN IT'S UP TO THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THAT AVERAGE BASED ON HOW [01:40:02] MANY LOT SIZES. AND I WOULD I MEAN, YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO DO IT. IT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO LOOK AT THAT. AND THAT MAY GIVE YOU THE FLEXIBILITY THAT YOU KNOW AT SOME POINT. BUT YOU KNOW, A FEW MORE BIGGERS AND, YOU KNOW, PULL AWAY A LITTLE BIT FROM THOSE 50 LOTS. I MEAN, I SEE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT FIFTY FOUR PERCENT OF GREATER THAN 70 OR GREATER THAN 60 AND THEN SIX PERCENT. MAYBE THE COMFORT ZONE IS COME DOWN TO ABOUT 40. THE 50 FOOT LOT SIZE, MAYBE IT'S 40 PERCENT, YOU KNOW, THAT GIVES THEM THERE, MAYBE THIRTY NINE PERCENT, I'M JUST THROWING OUT THERE. SO BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT OF A MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY AND WE'VE HAD OTHER DEVELOPERS COME AND SAY THEY WANT TO DO A MASTERPLAN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ONE HERE. AND IT'S NICE THAT MAYBE THAT SUBDIVISION OR THAT THE COMMUNITY DOES HAVE AMENITIES AND THAT'S WHAT'S THE DRAW TO DRIVE SOMEBODY THERE. I DO SEE WHAT JOHN IS SAYING IS THAT NOW YOU'RE COMPETING WITH OUR AMENITIES, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT ALSO WALKABILITY. THEY COULD WALK TO A POOL OR WALK TO A PARK, AND IT'S KIND OF ALL RIGHT THERE, BUT WE'LL WORK THAT OUT LATER DOWN THE ROAD. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE MAY WANT. THEY DON'T LIKE TO VENTURE OUT, WHO KNOWS? MAYBE IN 20 YEARS WE'RE NOT DRIVING AS MANY CARS AND WE WILL WALKING AND BIKE IN MORE PLACES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHO'S WHO'S TO KNOW? BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IF WE COULD SIT DOWN AND DO SOME MORE EXPLORING TOGETHER BECAUSE I THINK THIS AREA SOUTH DOESN'T HAVE A MASTERPLAN AND WE MAY BE THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WAY THAT'S TRULY LIKE THIS MASTERPLAN WITH SUBDIVISION, OTHER AMENITIES, YADA YADA YADA. BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'VE HEARD OUR VOICE AND TWEAKING A LITTLE BIT, SPONGING THE NUMBER OF MOWING BIGGER, A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. MAYBE WE GET THERE, YOU KNOW? SO I MEAN, LOOK AT ALL THE FEEDBACK YOU'VE GIVEN US IS WHY WE'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, GET SOME FEEDBACK EARLY AND APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOMETIMES YOU DON'T DO IT SOON ENOUGH. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD FEEDBACK. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT. WE NEED TO SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME ON MAKING SURE Y'ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE COMPARED TO MAYBE WHAT YOU'VE YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE. AND WE'LL WE'LL GET YOU SOME DATA ON SOME COMMUNITIES. YOU CAN GO SEE YOURSELF AND THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH WITHIN THIRTY FIVE FORTY FIVE MINUTE RIDE. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY SEEING RIGHT NOW WHAT, 50S AND FORTY FIVES, NON LANDSCAPED NON NOTHING, NO FENCES. SO AND I'VE DRIVEN POMONA AND I'VE DRIVEN IN SILVERLAKE AND I'VE DRIVEN IN AND IT'S THERE'S SOME NICE PRODUCTS. I MEAN, ON THE WEST END OF [INAUDIBLE] IT LOOKS SMALL, BUT THEY'RE NICE, MANICURED, WELL SIDEWALK, WELL LIT STREETS WIDE ENOUGH. AND WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE AND SEE THAT'S A PRODUCT THAT MAYBE WOULD FIT IN ANGLETON. RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEING RAW LAND WITH JUST STICKS AND CONCRETE RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE NOT VISUALIZING WHAT A 50 LOOKS LIKE OR WHAT A FORTY FIVE OR I'M GOING TO GO LAY DOWN IN THE YARD AND GO, SAY, OK, THIS IS A 50. HOW MUCH CAN I TOUCH MY NEIGHBOR? YOU KNOW SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET, BUT IT'S COMING. IT'S IT'S ON ITS WAY. IT'S OUR LARGEST DEVELOPMENT. GOING IN RIGHT NOW IS NOT OURS. IT'S A ETJ DEVELOPMENT. WIND ROWS [INAUDIBLE] AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT EVEN A TENTH OF THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACRES. 740 HOMES. I KNOW IT'S 740 [INAUDIBLE]. WELL, AND THAT'S IT. BUT IT HAS NONE OF THE WELL IT'S GOT A FEW AMENITIES. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT NOTHING TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU'VE GOT PLANNED HERE. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE GONNA BE ALL JUST STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. AND ONE THING I WOULD SAY FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE IS THE ADVANTAGE OF A NINE HUNDRED ACRE MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY IS YOU GET TO NEGOTIATE IT ONCE RIGHT, AND IT COVERS NINE HUNDRED ACRES AS OPPOSED TO, YEAH, EVERYBODY'S COMING. WE DON'T BUY ALL NINE HUNDRED ACRES, MAYBE GET SUBDIVIDED AND YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE SMALLER ONES AND NOT AS NOT AS COORDINATED, NOT AS PLANNED. I MEAN THIS IS A HUMONGOUS PROJECT, RIGHT? NINE HUNDRED ACRES. A BIG CHUNK PROPERTY, RIGHT? LOOK DONE RIGHT, THIS IS A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY. I THINK I'VE GOT SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU GUYS ON ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF GETTING Y'ALL SOME INFORMATION YOU'VE ASKED FOR AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION. I DO WANT TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. ARE YOU ALL OPEN TO THE CONCEPT OF ESTATE STYLE HOMES? LIKE, I MEAN, LIKE THAT ONE HUNDRED FOOT ALLOWING A CUSTOM BUILDER IN TO BUILD TO SOMEBODY. SO WE WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS IN OUR IN ANGLETON WITH THAT STYLE AS WELL. WOULD YOU ALLOW A SECTION FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT? HOW BIG IS IS ONE HUNDRED FOOT? HOW DEEP ARE THOSE? USUALLY DO YOU KNOW? ONE HUNDRED AND 130. SO TEN THOUSAND. SO IT'S A QUARTER OF AN ACRE. YEAH, I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE LATELY, BUT THAT IN. LIKE I SAID, WHATEVER WE DO IN THOSE THREE PURPLE SECTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY P&Z. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND EVEN A MORE DIVERSITY LIKE I'M NOT I ALREADY GET [01:45:01] THAT THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS AN EXPENSIVE HOME. I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THAT. THAT'S A THAT CAN THAT CAN BE, FOR MANY PEOPLE, A VERY TOUGH PRICE TO MAKE. BUT I DO ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE HERITAGE OAKS OUT HERE AND IT'S ABOUT TO BE BUILT OUT AND THOSE ARE ALL CUSTOM HOMES ON SIZABLE LOTS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER ONE LIKE THAT IN THE AREA. I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT STYLE, AT LEAST PROVIDE THAT OPTION FOR PEOPLE. ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED IN THIS BUSINESS IS IF SOMEBODY SAYS THERE'S A MARKET FOR IT, YOU PROBABLY OUGHT TO LISTEN TO THEM. ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A MARKET FOR 100 FOOT PRODUCT, WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO CONSIDER IT. WELL, I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU'D BE OPEN TO IT? YEAH, NO, NO. DRIVE THROUGH HERITAGE OAKS AND SEE WHAT'S LITERALLY BEING BUILT. AND WHAT I'VE SEEN DONE IN MASTERPLANS LIKE THIS, WHERE SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, I REALLY THINK THERE'S A MARKET FOR ONE HUNDRED FOOT PRODUCT OR ACRE PRODUCT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WELL, THERE'S PROBABLY A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN DO A SMALL AREA AND DO A TEST, DO A TEST, RIGHT, SEE WHERE THERE IS OR NOT. I MEAN, THAT'S THE RIGHT. I MEAN, IF THERE'S A MARKET, LOOK, IF WE COULD HAVE 50S, 60S, 70S, 80S AND 90S AND 100S, RIGHT, I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY TOO MANY. YOU KNOW, TOO MANY PRICE POINTS. BUT IF WE CAN EXPAND THE PRICE POINT NOW YOU'RE NOW YOU'RE SELLING FOUR DIFFERENT PRODUCTS AS OPPOSED TO THREE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS. I MEAN, THAT'S BETTER FOR HIS ABSORPTION THAT IF THERE'S A MARKET FOR IT. I'M JUST I'M JUST ON THAT IDEA, I DON'T I'M NOT TELLING YOU HOW TO RUN YOUR BUSINESS, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE WHAT YOU ALL HAVE IN MIND AND WHICH Y'ALL NEED TO DO, BUT BUT I THINK I AM INTERESTED IN EXPLORING THAT OPTION, AT LEAST TO PROVIDE MORE OPPORTUNITIES IN A VARIATION. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT. BELIEVE ME, A $300000 HOME IS THAT'S A SUBSTANTIVE, YOU KNOW, MORTGAGE PAYMENT TO MAKE. I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, IT IS SO. WELL, I THINK THAT AGAIN, IF Y'ALL CAN GIVE US SOME DATA ON THE THE MARKET THAT WE DON'T HAVE, RIGHT, LIKE THERE'S A MARKET FOR THIS AND THERE'S A MARKET FOR THAT. AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN HAVE SOME REALTORS TALK TO US ABOUT. HEY, I SEE DEMAND FOR THIS BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE GO DOWN TO PORT FREEPORT AND SO THEY WANT A HOUSE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOME DATA ON ON THE MARKET, WE'D LOVE ANYTHING YOU GOT OR IF YOU CAN PUT US IN TOUCH WITH FOLKS THAT HAVE THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S BETTER FOR US. HIRE JOHN BURNS TO DO A MARKET STUDY TO TELL US WHAT IS THE RIGHT PRODUCT? WHAT'S THE MOST POPULAR PRODUCT? ONE THING I'VE LEARNED IS IT'S NOT THE MARKET. I'LL NEVER SAY THAT AGAIN BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT. THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT MAY, MAY BE THE MARKET FOR BIGGER LOTS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO SPEND ABOUT TEN THOUSAND ON THAT MARKET STUDY TO JUST SEE HOW FAR WE CAN STRETCH IT. I WAS SURPRISED THAT WHEN WE OFFER THE 70S TO THE WEEKLIES, THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN IT, SO IT MAY BE A BIGGER MARKET. SO WE'LL DO THAT RESEARCH AND SEE HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT WITH THESE SPECIALTY MODELS. WE HAVE A 70 FOOT LOT SUBDIVISION GOING IN RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE BUILDING. HE'S PROBABLY GOT CLOSE TO A DOZEN HOMES ON THE SLAB. HOW BIG IS THAT? HOW BIG IS GREYSTONE? HOW MANY LOTS IN THERE. 111. 111 LOTS. WHAT'S THE PRICE POINT DO YOU KNOW? AROUND FOUR THREE AND THREE AND FOUR, I BELIEVE. AND MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'RE ALREADY REALTORS ALREADY RECEIVING INQUIRIES ABOUT THESE HOMES AND THEY'RE STILL JUST IN AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL LAYING LOTS. AND ANYWAY, THE ROADS ARE BUILT. BUT ANYWAY, YOU CAN GO CHECK IT OUT IN TOWN. AND I'VE I'VE TALKED TO REALTORS AND THEY'RE ALREADY GETTING FEEDBACK, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE INTO THAT SUBDIVISION. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. YEAH, THERE'S ONE THAT'S HERITAGE COURTS. IT'S IT'S BUILT OUT. IT'S BUILT OUT. AND THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL THAT LOT. JOHN WAS RIGHT. IF YOU SO FAR, WHETHER IT'S SMALLER, LARGER, INEXPENSIVE, MORE EXPENSIVE, EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN IS BEEN SELLING. YEP. THAT'S RIGHT. APPRECIATE IT, APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK, AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL WORKING WITH US AS WELL AS TALKING WITH THE ISD. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TOO. AND JUST WHAT YOUR NAMES AGAIN. YOUR NAME WAS. GO AHEAD. EITHER ONE. MARK JANIK. JANIK. ASHTON GRAY DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M RICH MUELLER WITH THE MUELLER LAW GROUP. IT'S MUELLER. AND WE'LL FORWARD CONTACT INFO, TOO. YES, I'M SURE THE STAFF HAS IT. I'M SURE STAFF HAS IT. IF NOT, WE'LL GET IT. YEAH, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO PUT TREES OUT HERE [INAUDIBLE]. MOSTLY RICE LAND, RIGHT? [01:50:05] YES, SIR. YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DITCH. WELL, WHILE YOU'RE THERE, WE'VE GOT A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE. WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED IN ANGLETON ABOUT ACCEPTING ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE PROTECTION LEVEE. OUTSIDE THE WHAT? PROTECTION LEVEE. THIS IS NORTH OF PROTECTION LEVEE. NOW TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. YOUR PROTECTION LEVEE IS FM 521. SO THAT'S NOT THAT THE WATER WON'T COME ACROSS THERE AND YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE IN. YOU'RE A MORE ACCEPTABLE FLOODPLAIN HERE THAN YOU ARE ACROSS THE HIGHWAY. [INAUDIBLE] WE DID ALL OF THE LEVEES AND PORTMAN COUNTY, YOU GOT TO ASSUME A LEVEES NOT THERE. SO YOU KIND OF YOU RUN IT AS IF THE LEVEES AREN'T THERE. I MEAN, THIS IS THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO GET ABOUT THREE, THREE AND A HALF FEET OF FILL ON AVERAGE. SOME ARE HIGHER, SOME ARE LOWER, AND IT'S ALL COMING FROM THE LAKES AND STUFF THAT WE'RE DIGGING [INAUDIBLE]. ANY MORE QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER FOR YOU TONIGHT? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, GUYS. YOU'RE NOT TELLING US TO GO HOME AND PACK OUR BAGS AND GO HOME. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING TO KEEP TALKING. I THINK YOU FEEL IN OUR DIRECTION THOUGH, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT NOT TRYING TO BE OBTUSE OR HARD TO FIGURE OUT. WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT ON THE TABLE. NO, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR, WHICH IS QUITE REFRESHING, ACTUALLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GUYS. SAFE TRAVELS. SO GET WITH STAFF. WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEP? IT'S JUST JUST DISCUSSION TONIGHT. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU IF YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU SAY THAT YOU WANT TO SHOW AS EXAMPLES THAT YOU SEND IT INTO US, WE CAN FORWARD THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. CRUNCH A FEW NUMBERS ON LOT SIZE SEE IF YOU CAN SQUEEZE THE LARGER ONES AND REDUCE SOME OF THE SMALL LOT. MAYBE THAT'S A WORKABLE. CHANGE YOUR MIX UP WAS SUGGESTED. AND THOSE ARE ALL GOOD. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A QUICK DECISION, NOR WILL WE, FOR THAT MATTER. YEAH, WE'RE INTERESTED IN YOUR COMFORT LEVEL AS MUCH AS Y'ALL ARE. WELL, WE CAN'T GET TO ONE. IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. WHY DON'T YOU SEND US THAT STUFF BACK? AND THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT A FUTURE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL? GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. ITEM NUMBER 12. WE HAVE BEEN ASKED BY MR. RIDGE [INAUDIBLE] TO TABLE THIS ITEM. HE'S GOTTEN SOME INFORMATION TODAY AND YESTERDAY THAT HE NEEDS MORE TIME TO PREPARE, I GUESS, FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. SO HE'S ASKED THAT WE TABLED IT, BUT WE WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 13 TO KEEP THEIR TIMELINE GOING. SO WE'LL TABLE ITEM NUMBER 12 AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13 DISCUSSION AND [13. Discussion and possible action on a Resolution No. 20211026-013 calling the public hearing required by Texas Local Government Code Section 372 on levying the assessments for property within the Greystone Public Improvement District (PID).] POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION NUMBER 20211026-013 CALLING THE PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED BY TEXAS LAW GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION THREE SEVENTY TWO ON LEVYING THE ASSESSMENT FOR PROPERTY WITHIN THE GRAYSTONE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. IS ANYBODY GONNA SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THAT MR. WALTER. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, IT'S CALL A PUBLIC HEARING ON OUTLINED IN THE ASSESSMENT ROLE OF THE THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. BUT IT'S CALLING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 9TH. OH. NOT FOR TODAY. SO IT'S WHAT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKET, AND IT'S JUST TO KEEP HIS TIMELINE. HE JUST NEEDS SOME MORE PREPARATION, I GUESS, AND MORE INFORMATION TO GET IT. BUT DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM TODAY, AND HE ASKED THAT WE JUST TABLE THAT. BUT KEEP THE TIMELINE. SO ALL WE'RE DOING IS JUST CALLING FOR CALLING FOR THE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 9TH. CORRECT. YES, SIR. WE'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING FOR THE PITCH, JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20211026-013 CALLING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 9TH FOR THE GRAYSTONE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. [01:55:01] SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND THAT'S ALSO JUST TO GET STAFF TIME TO DO ALL THE NOTICES AND PAPERWORK AND NEWSPAPER ANNOUNCEMENT AND WHATNOT SO WE CAN KEEP ON TRACK. CORRECT MR. WALTER? AGAINST A PUBLIC HEARING. IN ANTICIPATION OF YOUR ACTION TONIGHT, I'D ALREADY SENT THE NOTICE TO THE NEWSPAPER TO BE PUBLISHED ON FRIDAY BECAUSE IF I DIDN'T, IT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN IN A TIMELY FASHION AND WE AS SOON AS I GET THE OWNERSHIP INFORMATION FROM THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEY, WE'LL BE SENDING OUT THE NOTE OF THE REQUIRED NOTICE TO THE OWNERS IN THE PID THAT WILL ALSO HAVE TO GO OUT ON FRIDAY. SO YES, WE'RE ALL WE'VE ALREADY. THAT BOAT IS ALREADY SAILING DOWN OR OUT TO CUT INTO THE OCEAN. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER COMMENT QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. THAT COMPLETES OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS NOW WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. [EXECUTIVE SESSION] CITY COUNCIL NOW CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 551 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED HEREIN NO. 14 DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENT SECTION 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE NO. 15 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20211026-015 APPOINTING THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS POSITIONS ONE THOUGH FIVE FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS FOR INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO RIVERWOOD RANCH REINVESTMENT ZONE, PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 311 OF THE TEXAS CODE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND EFFECTIVE DATE. SECTION 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 16 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 0, 20211026-016 DESIGNATING A REPRESENTATIVE AND ALTERNATE TO THE HGA HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL. 2022 GENERAL ASSEMBLY SECTION 551.074 THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. I WILL NOW SHOW US GOING INTO SESSION AT 8:06. ALL RIGHT, SO SHOW US BACK AT THE TABLE 8:23, COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION COMING OUT [16. Discussion and possible action on Resolution No. 20211026-016 designating a representative and alternate to the Houston-Galveston Area Council 2022 General Assembly. Section 551.074 of the Texas Government Code.] OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? I MOVE. WE APPROVE. RESOLUTION NUMBER 20211026-016 A RESOLUTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF ANGLETON TO DESIGNATE A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL FOR THE 21 2021 AND APPROVE THAT IT BE MAYOR JASON PEREZ AND MAYOR PRO TEM JOHN WRIGHT. SECOND. A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 20211026-015 APPOINTING THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS [15. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20211026-015 appointing the Board of Directors, positions one through five for the administration of City of Angleton, Texas Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No. 2, (Riverwood Ranch Reinvestment Zone), pursuant to chapter 311 of the Texas Tax Code; providing for a severability clause; and providing for repeal and effective date. Section 551.074 of the Texas Government Code.] FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO RIVERWOOD RANCH REINVESTMENT ZONE JASON PEREZ POSITION ONE, ROBIN CROUCH POSITION TWO, JOHN WRIGHT POSITION THREE, CECIL BOOTH POSITION FOUR AND MICHAEL FOLEY TO POSITION FIVE. MAKE A MOTION TO SECOND. HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN TOWNSEND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES AND THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION I WILL CALL US ADJOURNED AT 8:24. GOODNIGHT FOLKS. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.