Nov 15, 2021 City Council

>> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH OUR JOINT MEETING

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

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I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL US TO ORDER.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS AFTER THIS TIME, SO I CALL US TO ORDER AT 5:35. [NOISE].

>> ON BEHALF OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WILL CALL IT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER WITH FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT IN THE [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'LL KICK OFF WITH OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM PRESENTATION

[1. Presentation and discussion of diagnostic report, associated research, and recommended updates to the City of Angleton Code of Ordinances Chapter 23 entitled “Land Development Code.”]

>> THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

YOU COMMISSIONED US TO PROVIDE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THAT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

WE'RE AT THE 85 PERCENTAGE PART.

WE WANTED TO CENTRALIZE THIS PUBLICLY AND INVITE OTHER FOLKS AND ALL FOLKS AND TALK ABOUT AN OVERVIEW.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO GO PAGE BY PAGE UNLESS WE WANT TO BE A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND WE'LL FINISH IT TOMORROW.

[LAUGHTER] BUT REALLY IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW.

WE POSTED THE DOCUMENT.

AGAIN, READING AIDS LIKE, 'HEY, WE'RE GETTING READY TO GET DONE.' EVENTUALLY, THIS WILL COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AFTER WE GET SOME MORE FEEDBACK OR VISIONS AND WE ALL WILL SAY; 'YAY OR NAY' AND HOPEFULLY, WE CAN ADOPT THIS NEW DOCUMENT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MODERNIZE OUR PRACTICE.

OVER TO LATA.

[NOISE]

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LATA KRISHNARAO.

I'M WITH GUNDA CORPORATION AND I HAVE MINDI.

MINDI, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF. [LAUGHTER]

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M MINDI SNYDER.

I AM RETIRED FROM CITY MANAGEMENT.

THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING] I HAVE THAT BACKGROUND.

I WAS FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR 16 YEARS AND A CITY MANAGER FOR MY LAST EIGHT.

I'M WORKING PART-TIME FOR GUNDA, JUST BRINGING THAT KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE FROM BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE.

>> JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.

I'VE BEEN A PLANNER FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND MOST OF IT WAS IN THE MUNICIPAL SECTOR.

JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, I TRANSITIONED TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

AS WE SAY, WENT ON TO THE DARK SIDE.

BUT MY PASSION IS HELPING CITIES.

SO INSTEAD OF JUST SERVING ONE CITY, I GET TO DO MANY MORE.

MY LAST JOB WAS WITH THE CITY OF PARALLEL.

I RETIRED AS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR THERE.

I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HELP STAFF AND THE CITY ON THIS PROJECT.

I GUESS WHAT I'M THINKING IS THE PART WHERE I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE POWERPOINT, MAYBE KEEP MY PRESENTATION SHORT, 35, 40 MINUTES OR WHENEVER YOU WANT ME TO STOP, THAT'S FINE.

THEN I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

IF YOU WANT TO INTERRUPT ME, THAT'S FINE TOO, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU ALL WANT TO KEEP THE TIME LIMIT, SO I DEFINITELY RESPECT THAT.

JUST MOVING THROUGH THE SLIDES QUICKLY, THERE IS A MEMO IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I THINK I COVERED MOST OF IT IN MY SLIDES.

LINDSAY IS GOING TO HELP ME MOVE THE SLIDES.

LET'S START WITH THE PRESENTATION. NEXT, PLEASE.

REALLY, YOUR PACKET HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION AND I'M SURE YOU'VE READ THROUGH ALL THE 500 PAGES, BUT THERE IS A MEMO THAT EXPLAINS IT.

WHAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IS WE DID INTERVIEWS, SOME STAFF AND DEVELOPERS, AND SOME OF THOSE INTERVIEWS' RESPONSES ARE SUMMARIZED.

WE WERE ABLE TO PUT OUT A QUESTIONNAIRE ON THE WEBSITE, THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET AND I'LL GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY LATER ON.

WE SUMMARIZE THE QUESTIONNAIRE RESPONSES.

ACTUALLY, SURVEYMONKEY HELPS US DO THAT, WHICH IS GREAT AND THEN THERE IS A DIAGNOSTIC REPORT.

ONE OF THE TASKS WAS TO PREPARE AN ADMINISTRATIVE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS MANUAL.

AS A RESPONSE TO A LOT OF THINGS, WE HAVE HEARD THAT THE PROCESS IS SO DIFFICULT, THEY'RE NOT CLEAR.

I THINK NOBODY IS SAYING THAT THEY'RE OVERLY CUMBERSOME, BUT A LOT OF IT IS THIS CLARITY.

THEN THERE IS A RED LINE VERSION OF THE CURRENT ZONING CODE, THE SIGN REGULATIONS AND THE LDC.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE WERE THINKING MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL.

BEFORE I GET STARTED, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK WALTER AND LINDSAY,

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THEY HAVE SPENT HOURS PULLING OVER SOME OF OUR DOCUMENTS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

ALSO, THANKS TO YOUR, I THINK, PUBLIC RELATIONS, I FORGOT HER NAME.

BUT SHE WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET THE SURVEY MONKEY ONLINE.

NEXT, PLEASE. [NOISE] LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE BASICALLY TWO THINGS THAT WE DID.

ONE WAS TO DO A DIAGNOSTIC REPORT WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE ZONING ORDINANCE WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2009, AND THE REVISIONS THAT HAPPENED.

WE LOOKED AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2018, AND THERE WERE SOME OTHER RELATED SECTIONS IN THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES LIKE SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT HAPPENED IS ONCE THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN 2009, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS ADOPTED AS A STANDALONE DOCUMENT IN 2018.

I THINK AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BENEFICIAL TO GO BACK AND COMPARE THE TWO AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE NO CONFLICTS, BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ON.

BUT THE THOUGHT IS TO COMBINE THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS SO THAT EVERYTHING, EVERY CODE, EVERY REGULATION THAT PERTAINS TO LAND DEVELOPMENT IS IN ONE PLACE AND NOT THREE OR FOUR PLACES.

THE SECOND ONE WAS TO WORK ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES MANUAL, WHICH WAS JUST TO PROVIDE A DOCUMENT THAT'S A ONE-STOP REFERENCE GUIDE ALL THE WAY FROM; HOW DO I ANNEX THE PROPERTY? WHAT IS THE FLOW CHART? TO HOW DO I GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY? TRIED TO MAKE IT USER-FRIENDLY SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE POSTED ONLINE, A LOT OF CROSS-LINKS, AND IS EASILY UNDERSTANDABLE.

WHAT THIS WILL ALSO DO IS IT'LL ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCEDURES ARE TRANSPARENT AND OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO FOLLOW, INCLUDING STAFF.

WHEN YOU HAVE NEW STAFF, THEY WILL KNOW WHAT THE PROCEDURES ARE. NEXT, PLEASE.

THE PART THAT WE REALLY, AS PLANNERS, WE LIKE TO DO IS OUTREACH AND SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS THINKING.

TYPICALLY WE DON'T LIKE TO COME INTO A COMMUNITY AND SAY WHAT'S WRONG.

WE LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM FIRST BECAUSE THAT REALLY THEN GUIDES OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE DID A BUNCH OF INTERVIEWS.

WE DID SOME INTERVIEWS ONE-ON-ONE WITH CITY STAFF, WE TALKED TO MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

YOUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT WAS REALLY HELPFUL, GAVE US PAGES OF INPUT.

THE WEBSITE QUESTIONNAIRE HELPED AND THEN WE ALSO DID SOME MAILING TO ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS AND STAFF.

IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS THE FIRST SET OF QUESTIONNAIRES THAT WENT OUT BEFORE IT GOT ONTO SURVEYMONKEY.

THEN, OF COURSE, THE RESEARCH.

WE LOOKED AT ALL THE EXISTING DOCUMENTS AND DID SOME COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS WITH OTHER CITIES AND JUST BASED ON OUR KNOWLEDGE. NEXT, PLEASE.

THE COMMUNITY INPUT QUESTIONNAIRE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS, AND ALSO WHAT WAS THE VISION THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD.

THIS WAS POSTED ONLINE.

THAT'S WHERE IT WAS, RIGHT IN THE FRONT SO PEOPLE COULD GO IN AND FILL IT ONLINE.

NEXT, PLEASE. THEN THE QUESTIONNAIRE.

SOME OF THE MAJOR FINDINGS THAT CAME OUT AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT A SURPRISE FOR YOU-ALL.

I HAVE A FEELING THIS IS WHY YOU WANTED US TO LOOK INTO THIS.

BUT THE FIRST THING WAS THE APPLICATION PROCESSING WAS CUMBERSOME, UNCLEAR, AND LENGTHY APPLICATION PROCESSING.

SECOND THING WAS THERE WAS NO CENTRALIZED LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO TO AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION.

IF I NEEDED TO DO A 50 LOT SUBDIVISION, WHERE DO I EVEN START? THERE WERE SOME THINGS WITHIN THE CODES AND STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS.

INCONSISTENCY IS BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU WERE LOOKING AT DOCUMENTS THAT HAD BEEN PREPARED AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND SO THERE WERE INCONSISTENCIES THERE, SOME OF THE THINGS WERE OUTDATED, THERE WERE SOME DESIGN STANDARDS THAT BASED ON THE RESPONSE WE SAW IN THE SURVEY, DEFINITELY NEEDED TO BE ELEVATED.

REQUIREMENTS WERE CONFUSING.

THEN THIS WAS A BIG ONE WHERE SAID CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS, THEY JUST REFERRED TO OTHER CITIES.

THEY WERE NOT PERTINENT, OR SPECIFIC TO ANGLE THEM.

NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN STANDARDS AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECURRING THINGS.

THESE ARE JUST THE SUMMARY AND ALL THE DETAILS ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

BUT THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS COULD BE DESIGNED BETTER

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LACK OF HOUSING DIVERSITY WAS ANOTHER ONE WHICH WENT ALL AROUND ALONG THE SPECTRUM ON BOTH SIDES, LARGE LOTS VERSUS SMALLER TOWN HOME TYPE OF LOTS.

THEN PLOTTING WAS A BIG ONE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE ARE TOO MANY TYPES OF PLATS IN THE CODES WITH REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THERE IS NO NEED FOR THAT TYPE OF PLATS THAT'S THERE.

I THINK PEOPLE REALIZED THAT ESPECIALLY DEVELOPERS WHO HAD WORKED IN OTHER CITIES AND THEY FELT THAT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE SO MANY TYPES OF PLATS.

THEN ONE WAS ANGLED ON STREET PARKING, THAT'S A SMALL ONE, BUT IT SHOWED UP SO MANY TIMES THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING IT UP.

THEN OF COURSE, THERE WERE OTHER THINGS LIKE WE DID HERE THAT PEOPLE FELT THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS IN NEED OF AN UPDATE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE IT WAS DONE.

OUR REGION HAS SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH AND THEN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WE DID HEAR THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY TO HAVE SOME STANDARDIZED PROCESSES.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL ALSO INCLUDE IN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES, MANUAL, TOURS, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE MINDY HAS ALREADY STARTED FOR A THING FROM HER EXPERIENCE. NEXT PLEASE.

THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT, JUST LIKE I SAID, WE WENT THROUGH SOME OF THESE STEPS, STARTING FROM INTERVIEWS WITH STAFF AND GETTING ALL THE SHERRY AS.

THIS IS THE PROCESS BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE IS WE HAVE WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE ARE DISCUSSING OUR FINDINGS WITH YOU.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS REALLY GET SOME INPUT FROM YOU ALL AS TO WHICH WAY YOU WANT US TO PROCEED.

WE HAVE RED LINE THE CURRENT VERSIONS.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S IT'S NOT SET IN STONE.

WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT TO DO THAT IS FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FINAL PRODUCT WOULD LOOK LIKE SO THAT YOU WOULD START UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE FIT INTO THE BIG PICTURE.

NEXT, PLEASE. THEN THE PHASE 2 WAS THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION.

AGAIN, ON THE IMPLEMENTATION RECOMMENDATIONS ARE HIGHER LEVEL AND IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN DEFINITELY THE ACTUAL CODES, ONCE THEY'RE WRITTEN, WOULD HAVE TO BE REVIEWED BY YOUR ATTORNEY NUMBER 1 AND STAFF AND DEVELOPERS.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT, TYPICALLY THE FIRST THING WE LOOK AT IS, WELL, DOES IT CONFORM TO YOUR LOCAL TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE? AS YOU ALL KNOW, LAST TWO YEARS, THE TEXAS LEGISLATOR HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE, MOSTLY TO THE DETRIMENT OF SMALL CITIES.

THEY'RE HUGELY CURTAILING WHAT CITIES CAN DO.

EXAMPLE IS FACADE REQUIREMENTS.

CITIES DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO REQUIRE MASONRY OR ANY TYPE OF SIDE.

NOW, WHICH WE HAD TWO YEARS BACK.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT WHICH WAY THAT'S HEADING.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM.

FOR EXAMPLE, CITIES ARE NOT JUMPING AND CHANGING THEIR CODES BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO END.

A LOT OF CITIES HAVE JUST CHANGED THE LANGUAGE FROM MANDATED TO RECOMMENDATION SO THAT THE DEVELOPERS KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS COMING FROM.

THERE'S ALSO THE THOUGHT THAT NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, IF SOMETHING CHANGES, THEN CITIES DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK.

THERE IS THIS ONGOING BATTLE.

BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DEFINITELY BE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THAT [NOISE] RIGHT NOW ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE RECENT CHANGES, BUT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN SUGGESTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ADDRESSED.

THE SECOND THING WAS JUST APPLICATION PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS.

WHERE IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE PROCESS STREAMLINE.

WHAT WE THINK OF AS SWIM LANES LIKE IF YOUR PROJECT NEEDS FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF PERMITS TO GET DONE, CAN SOME OF THEM BEING PROCESSED SIMULTANEOUSLY? HOW CAN WE SAVE TIME AND MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS? OF COURSE, THERE ARE USER-FRIENDLY FORMAT SO THAT WE RUN.

IT PROMOTES TRANSPARENCY.

SECOND, IT HELPS PEOPLE FIND THINGS IN AN EASY MANNER.

THEN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AGAIN IS YOUR OVERARCHING GUIDE AND TO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IS JUST A GUIDE.

IT HAS NO TEETH IN IT IN THAT.

FOR SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED, YOU NEED TO HAVE ORDINANCES AND CODES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

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THE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN BROKEN DOWN INTO ONE IS JUST, WHAT ARE SOME THAT ARE JUST CONFORMANCE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE? I'M JUST NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, BUT LOOKS AT COMPLIANCE, PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS, AND STREAMLINING, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE TEXT IS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS IT TO BE STREAMLINE.

WE THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF ANGLE TEND TO USE THAT.

NEXT PLEASE. THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS JUST PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS.

AGAIN, HOW CAN WE USE ELECTRONIC REVIEWS? MOST OF THE WORK WE DO NOW IS JUST BASED ON THE PART THAT WHEN THE CITY TRANSITIONS TO AN ELECTRONIC REVIEW PROCESSING SYSTEM, THAT THESE DOCUMENTS ARE READY AND THAT TRANSITION CAN BE SEAMLESS.

NEXT THESE. THEN SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO CHANGE THE ACTUAL CONTENT OF THE CODE? WHERE IS DATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST CHANGE THE FORMAT. NEXT, PLEASE.

THEN INCORPORATION OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBJECTIVES AND NEXT PLEASE.

THE HIGHLIGHTS, JUST LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST NOT GOING TO GO TOO MUCH IN DETAIL.

BUT THE FIRST THING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, LIKE I SAID, IS TO PROVIDE ONE DOCUMENT WHERE ANYBODY CAN GO AND FIND EVERYTHING THAT RELATES TO LAND DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF 3, 4, 5 PLACES.

MOBILE HOME PARKS IS IN SOME OTHER SECTION IN THE CITY COUNCIL COVID, PEOPLE MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW.

SIGNAGE IS A SEPARATE SECTION.

SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

THINGS LIKE THAT. THE HIGHLIGHT WAS TO SEE IF WE CAN COMBINE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, ZONING CODE, AND PICK ALL THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENT CODES INTO ONE DOCUMENT.

SECOND WAS IN TERMS OF PLANNING, I MENTIONED THAT THE CITY OF ANGLED AND HAS AN EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF TYPES OF PLATS, IT GETS VERY CONFUSING.

MAKING IT SIMPLER AND SAY REALLY THREE MAJOR TYPES, MINOR PLATS, PRELIMINARY PLATS, AND FINAL PLATS.

EVERYTHING GETS INTO THOSE THREE CATEGORIES [NOISE].

ONE THING ABOUT PLATING THAT I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH JUST THE SEQUENCES OF THE SEQUENCING.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THERE IS A 500 ACRE HALVES A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS THAT THREE OR FOUR STAGES.

ONE IS GETTING THE PLATEAU PROVED, WHICH IS THE PRELIMINARY PLOT.

IF A DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES A LOT OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, AND OPEN SPACE AND AMENITIES.

THAT'S NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I GUESS THE CITY TO SAFEGUARD THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS HAPPEN BEFORE THE PLOT IS RECORDED AND THE LOTS ARE SOLD.

WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED THROUGH THE YEARS IS, IF THERE'S A DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY, A LOT OF TIMES THAT THE PLOT IS RECORDED, THE LOTS ARE SOLD, PEOPLE ARE KNOCKING ON THE DOORS TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT, BUT YOUR STREET DOES NOT IN PLACE, YOUR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IS NOT IN PLACE.

IF THE DEVELOPER, FOR SOME REASON JUST ABANDONS THE PROJECT, NOW YOU HAVE LOTS THAT ARE SOLD WITHOUT THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.

CITIES HAVE WIZENED UP OVER THE YEARS, AND NOW THEY'RE SAYING EITHER WE WILL NOT LET YOU RECORD THE PLOT UNLESS ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN PLACE AND INSPECTED AND ACCEPTED OR WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DECENT SIZE PERFORMANCE OF SURETY BOND SO THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THE DEVELOPER IS NOT ABLE TO COMPLETE IT, THE CITY HAS TO PITCH IN AND DO IT.

WE WILL HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BETTER, BUT IT'S JUST A PROCESSING.

WHAT I'M SEEING NOW WITH MOST OF THE CITIES IS THEY'RE NOT LETTING THE FINAL PLOT BE EVEN SUBMITTED UNTIL THE PRELIMINARY PLOT DISAPPROVED.

THE CONSTRUCTION IS DONE, ALL THE PUBLIC, AND I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC UTILITIES, WATER, SEWER, STORM DRAINAGE, STREETS HAVE BEEN BUILT, ACCEPTED, OR THERE'S A PERFORMANCE.

THEN THEY LOOK AT THE FINAL PLOT AND LET IT BE RECORDING.

NOW I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT HERE AND THERE IS THE STRUGGLE.

DEVELOPERS DON'T LIKE IT,

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THERE ARE WAYS OF FINDING A HAPPY MEDIUM.

IT DEPENDS ON EACH COMMUNITY AND WHERE THEY WANT TO GO.

AGAIN, RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS, I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO STAFF AND THAT IS A BIG CONCERN THAT YOUR STAFF HAS IN TERMS OF SEQUENCING.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

THE THIRD ONE ON THE LIST WAS JUST THE SIGN IS REGULATIONS NEED TO BE UPDATED, AND THEY DON'T ADDRESS A LOT OF NEWER TYPE OF SIGNS.

THINGS LIKE ABANDONED SIGNS OR SEEING WHICH BOARDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

DEFINITIONS, OF COURSE, THE DEFINITIONS ONCE IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, SOME DEFINITIONS NEED TO BE ADDED AND SOME NEED TO BE CLARIFIED.

ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT IS A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS DO REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM EXTERNAL AGENCIES LIKE RESERVE, YOUR DRAIN IS DISTRICT OR TEXT DOT OR COULD BE OTHERS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY WHO ARE THEY AND AT WHAT STAGE DO THEY COME INTO THE PICTURE.

ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO CLARIFY THAT.

THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION ON CONCEPT PLAN, SITE PLAN REQUIREMENT.

IT'S A LITTLE VAGUE RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, WORKING WITH STAFF, THAT IS GOING TO BE TIGHTENED UP A LITTLE BIT, AND THE ENTIRE PLAN DEVELOPMENT SECTION.

YOU PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR THE CITIES TO HAVE.

IT OFFERS DEVELOPER THE FLEXIBILITY TO WRITE THEIR OWN REGULATIONS, DENSITY, LOT SIZES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT COMES WITH A COST.

A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED AS A WAY TO CIRCUMVENT ZONING REGULATIONS.

IT'S A GREAT TOOL BECAUSE IF DONE RIGHT, THEY CAN PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT'S CREATIVE, BRINGS IN A LOT OF AMENITIES, PROVIDES WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IN A MANNER THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

BUT IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN WELL, THEN IT BECOMES A POINT OF CONTENTION.

ONE THING THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION IS TO LOOK AT THAT AT AND ASK THAT QUESTION WHY WOULD BE, TYPICALLY THE REASON PLOT DEVELOPMENTS ARE USED AS TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PERMITTED IN YOUR COURSE? IF YOU WANT MIX OF USES OR A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES OR SOMETHING ELSE, OUR ZONING IS CALLED EUCLIDEAN ZONING, IS A SEPARATION OF USERS.

THAT'S HOW ZONING EVOLVED IN THE UNITED STATES.

WHEN SOMEBODY STARTS THINKING OF MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND ONE ZONE THAT WILL FIT, AND THAT'S WHERE PLANNED UNITS DEVELOPMENTS ARE IMPORTANT.

AGAIN, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO USE THIS TOOL CORRECTLY AND IN THE RIGHT MANNER.

THAT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND WE HAVE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT TOO.

THEN THE NEXT ONE WAS JUST A PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WAS IF YOU HAVE ALIGNED USE TABLE THAT SAYS WHAT USES PERMITTED IN WHAT ZONE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO JUST ADD ANOTHER COLUMN AND SAY WHAT IS YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENT, SO THAT IT CONSOLIDATES ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THERE.

I TALKED ABOUT THE FACADE REQUIREMENTS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONFORM TO THE STATE STATUTES.

THERE'S A LOT OF LANGUAGE ON HOW TO MEASURE YARDS.

INTERESTINGLY, THIS WAS A POINT THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE SURVEYS A NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW YARDS ARE MEASURED.

THEN THE PERFORMANCE BOND SURETY AMOUNT, JUST SOME CLARIFICATION ON HOW THAT IS MEASURED AND THE AMOUNT.

THEN THERE WERE SOME CONCERN ABOUT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

SURELY YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE COLOR OF STREET SIGNS AND A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS REFER TO OTHER CITIES.

THE THOUGHT WAS THAT IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO GO IN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY REFLECT A ANGLETON, AND ARE NOT JUST COPIED FROM OTHER CITIES.

THEN LOOKING AT JUST UPDATED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING, PARKING, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE NEXT, PLEASE.

THEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE MANUAL BRINGS EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

IT WILL HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES.

IT STARTS WITH A FREE APPLICATION PROCESS, A FREE APPLICATION CONFERENCE.

DEPENDING ON WHAT APPLICATION YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, THE PROCESSES WILL BE OUTLINE, THERE'LL BE FLOWCHARTS OR TELL YOU WHAT AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING.

WHAT IS THE APPROVAL CRITERIA, WHAT ARE THE EXPIRATION DATES.

I THINK THE EXPIRATION DATE IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THAT IF A PLOT IS APPROVED,

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I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET THEM NOW.

THEN JUST LOOKING AT FEES, HAVING A DIRECTORY OF STAFF.

ONE THING THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED IS THERE ARE ABOUT, I THINK ABOUT 30, 35 TYPE OF APPLICATIONS IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

STARTING OFF WITH THE UNIVERSAL APPLICATION FORM, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU START OFF WITH THAT ONE FORM, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE BOXES THERE.

IF I'M LOOKING FOR A TEA PLOT PROVING, I'LL BE ABLE TO CHECK THAT BOX.

THEN WHEN IT'S HYPERLINK OR BE ABLE TO GO TO A SUB APPLICATION FORM THAT WILL TAKE ME TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

IF I'M PLANTING, I CHECK THE BOX AND THAT TAKES ME THERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.

THEN ALSO A LIST OF ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT COULD HAVE MINIMUM STANDARDS.

AGAIN, WORKING WITH STAFF TO SEE WHAT ARE SOME OF THE RECURRING THINGS THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH AND MAKE SURE THAT IS ADDRESSED. NEXT, PLEASE.

LOOK AT THESE EXAMPLES.

THAT'S I THINK THEY SETTLED ON THE COVER.

WE DID A POLL ON WHAT THE COVER SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

WE HAVE NATURE, WE HAVE TAKEN YOUR COLORS.

THEN THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SUBDIVISION PLOT, THAT'S WHAT THE FLOWCHART WOULD LOOK LIKE.

THE PROCESS, HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES AND JUST STEP-BY-STEP SO THAT THE APPLICANT KNOWS, IS THERE A COUNCIL MEETING INVOLVED, IS IT A P&Z MEETING INVOLVED, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE COUNCIL MEETING, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO, WHERE DO I RECORD THE FINAL PLAN, THINGS LIKE THAT.

NEXT, PLEASE. THEN SOME MORE PROCESS OVERVIEWS AND THOSE ARE MORE DETAIL WOULD YOU SAW EARLIER WAS THE OVERALL PROCESS.

THEN FOR EACH STEP, IF IT'S PLOTTING, THERE'S A FLOWCHART THERE.

IF IT'S A PERMIT, THERE'S A FLOWCHART THERE.

IT STARTS DRILLING DOWN. NEXT, PLEASE.

THEN JUST LIKE I SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS REALLY HELPED US TO DO IS WORK WITH STAFF AND SEE, HEY, IS THE PROCESS, DOES IT EVEN MAKE SENSE? WHAT ARE SOME AREAS THAT WE COULD STREAMLINE? YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE WHERE TRIED TO MOVE THE BOSSES AND STAFF HAD SOME GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS.

AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT WE KEEP STATUTORY COMPLIANCE IN MIND.

LIKE I SAID, THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS NOT BEEN KIND TO CITIES NOW WITH PLOTTING.

THEY HAVE A 30-DAY DEADLINE, WHICH WHEN IT SAYS IS IF A PLOT IS NOT APPROVED IN 30 DAYS OR DENIED, IT'S NOT IF IT'S NOT ACTED IN 30 DAYS, IT'S DEEMED APPROVED.

I PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE CITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS SOMEBODY'S ACTING.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A TWO-STEP PROCESS LIKE IN ANGLETON WHERE IT GOES TO THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL, IT MAKES IT VERY TIGHT.

THE COMPLETENESS CHECK PART IS VERY IMPORTANT.

THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THE STATUTE SAYS YOU DO A COMPLETENESS CHECK IN 10 DAYS AND SEND IT BACK.

IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, THE CLOCK STARTS TICKING.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED NOW, WHICH REALLY MAKES PROCESSING SO IMPORTANT, AND THAT WE DON'T MISS ANY DEADLINES.

WE'VE TRIED TO CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT HANDBOOK.

THEN WHAT YOU WILL ALSO SEE IS, LIKE I SAID, I MENTIONED, THESE ARE ALL THE TYPE OF APPLICATIONS YOU HAVE.

I THINK WE MANAGED TO GET TO S39, BUT THEN THERE WERE ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT LIKE MOVING OR WRECKING PERMIT, ALCOHOL PERMIT, GROOMING FACILITY LICENSE.

EVERY CITY HAS THAT.

IT'S NOT UNIQUE, BUT TO CENTRALIZE AND HAVE ONE PLACE WHERE JUST BY KNOWING HOW MANY APPLICATIONS YOU CAN TELL WHAT IS THE PROCESS.

EACH OF THESE APPLICATIONS WILL HAVE A CHECKLIST NOW.

IF YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR A GROOMING FACILITY LICENSED, WHAT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED WITH THAT? THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S HOW THE UNIVERSAL APPLICATION LOOKS LIKE, WHERE ALL THE APPLICATIONS WILL BE LISTED, AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS ABLE TO DO THE FIRST PAGE THAT IS COMMON FOR ALL APPLICATIONS, AND THE SECOND PAGE WHERE YOU CHECK THE BOX AND THEN GO ON TO THE SPECIFIC APPLICATION.

THAT'S WHAT THE SPECIFIC APPLICATION FORM WILL LOOK LIKE IF THAT'S REZONING.

IT LISTS EVERYTHING THAT YOU WOULD NEED FROM, HAVE YOU HAD A PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE TO ELECTRONIC COPIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEN I TALKED ABOUT HYPERLINKING, WHICH I GUESS IN THIS DAY AND AGE IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL STOP PRINTING MOST OF THESE 500-PAGE DOCUMENTS NOW.

IF YOU CLICK ON ZONING, IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THE ZONING PAGE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, IT SAYS, "IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE HAVE ALTERS, EMAIL, HYPERLINK."

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YOU'LL KNOW WHERE TO GO, LET ME TELL YOU, YOU WILL FIND SOMEBODY.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE ZONING MAP, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO TO THE WEBSITE, GO TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, GO TO DOCUMENTS AND FIND THE ZONING MAP, IT'S A LINK THAT YOU JUST CLICK ON, IF IT WORKS, IT SHOULD TAKE YOU THERE.

THEN THE OTHER THING WAS JUST A SUBMITTAL SCHEDULE.

LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE OF THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT, IT'S VERY VERY IMPORTANT.

DEVELOPERS MIGHT THINK THAT CITIES ARE BEING OVERLY STRICT BUT WE HAVE TO.

YOU WILL SEE THAT ALL THE DATES ARE VERY CLEAR.

COMPLETENESS CHECK IS GOING TO BE DONE WITHIN 10 DAYS.

APPLICATION FILING DATE IS SYNCHRONIZED AND COORDINATED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS SO THAT IT DOESN'T GO BEYOND THE 30-DAY TIME FRAME.

THERE'LL BE SOME OF THESE THERE.

THEN WHAT WE ARE ALSO GOING TO ADD IS A CHECKLIST FOR STAFF, WHEN YOU GET AN APPLICATION.

>> QUICK QUESTION BACK ON THE CALENDAR.

>> YEAH.

>> IS THAT THE CALENDAR THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE UP EVERY YEAR FOCUSED ON THE WEBSITE?

>> YES. WE CAN GET FANCIER LIKE IF YOU HAVE A HYPERLINK TO WHERE IT SAYS PLOT, THAT SHOULD TAKE YOU TO THE CHAPTER IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEVELOPMENT PROCEDURES MANUAL THAT TALKS ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS.

WE CAN GO A LONG WAY NOW WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE.

BUT YES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PUBLISHED SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THAT.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> JUST EXAMPLE OF HOW, THESE ARE CHECKLISTS FOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T MISS ANYTHING WHILE REVIEWING.

IF IT'S A TRANSPARENT PROCESS, THE APPLICANT KNOWS WHAT THE CHAPTER IS LOOKING FOR SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO RESPOND APPROPRIATELY.

NEXT, PLEASE.

[BACKGROUND] NO, THAT WAS THE LAST ONE.

AGAIN, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS IN YOUR PACKET THAT I'VE TRIED TO SUMMARIZE.

THAT WAS MY LAST SLIDE, BASICALLY SLIDE 27.

WE CAN OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION, AND REALLY LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HERE TO GET INPUT, ARE WE ON THE RIGHT TRACK NUMBER 1? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT? DO YOU HAVE ANY THINGS THAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AS BEING ISSUES AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT STAFF HAS? I DON'T KNOW CHRIS IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, OR WALTER, OR LINDSAY.

>> MY HEAD HURTS. [LAUGHTER]

>> IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

>> I THINK THIS ALL UPDATES A FEW OR MAYBE A YEAR OR SO AGO WHEN WE STARTED REALLY INTO DEVELOPMENT.

WE STARTED ACTUALLY APPLYING THE CURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, REALIZING WE DID A FLAT JOB ON PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, OR WHAT WE THOUGHT IT MEANT TO SAY, IT DIDN'T SAY.

WE WERE TURNING BACK TO THE TABLE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS TO TRY TO RECTIFY WHATEVER THE ISSUE WAS.

I THINK THIS IS ON TRACK.

I DO LIKE THE CHECKLIST, I KNOW WE'VE GOT STAFF TO DO THAT.

BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS COMPLIMENTED OR SUPPLEMENTED, I DON'T KNOW IT TURNS OUT.

BUT YES, CHECKLISTS ARE BEST.

AIRLINE PILOTS HAVE A CHECKLIST ON THE PLANE.

WE SHOULD HAVE A CHECKLIST WHEN DOING A SUBDIVISION OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

JUST SOME ADVICE ON THE SAME PAGE, I DO APPRECIATE IT.

THE NEXT PART OF THIS MEETING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE NUTS AND BOLTS WHERE WE DID HIT THAT HICCUP THAT DID CAUSE SOME DELAY.

WHETHER IT'S OUR FAULT OR DEVELOPER'S FAULT, IT'S SOMEBODY'S FAULT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN EASY WAY.

I KNOW THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE SALT AND SUGAR ON EACH SIDE SEVERAL TIMES.

WE'RE NOT SUGAR ANYWAY IN ANGLETON.

BUT I THINK THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

TO ME PERSONALLY, THIS GIVES US THAT PLAYING FIELD, THE GAME-BOOK SO TO SPEAK.

BUT LET'S JUST HOPE THAT IT'S TO THE GAME-BOOK THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN ANGLETON, THAT MATCHES WHAT WE SAY OR WHAT WE WANT IT TO SAY, IT ACTUALLY SAYS IT IN THE BAG.

I'M JUST TAKING THINGS OFF MY HEAD, FEE SCHEDULE WAS THAT IN THERE, IT WAS KIND OF CRAZY, RADIUS AND I'LL CALL THIS ACT, THAT WAS A BIG PART OF THE PLOY.

JUST THINGS OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THROUGHOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT JUST DIDN'T MATCH THE LDC.

I'M ASSUMING THAT SOME OF THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED, AS YOU SEE DEVELOPERS ARE HERE, THE STAFF ARE HERE, ENGINEERS ARE HERE.

I THINK THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF INPUT,

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I'M JUST HOPING THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF THOSE FINITE INTO THE WOUND, SOME IT MAKES SENSE FROM OUR POSITION, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IT WITH THE STAFF AND THE REST OF THE BOARDS.

BUT JUST THE THINGS THAT WE DEALT WITH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

THAT'S MY TWO CENTS.

TO YOU, FROM THE PLANNING ZONING STANDPOINT.

>> I AGREE, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN THAT CLEANS THINGS UP AND MOVES FORWARD.

CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE AUDIENCE THINKS ABOUT IT.

I CAN SEE SERIOUS PROBLEMS. MY POINT ON ALL THIS IS 2000 MILES ON COUNCIL, ASSUMING WE DON'T GET IT.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS A LITTLE OVER 200 PAGES, AND MY COMMENT THEN WAS THE SAME AS IT IS NOW, VERY BROAD.

IT WAS ALL AN OPTION AT ONE POINT AND IT DIDN'T REALLY GO THROUGH THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WHAT THAT WAS.

I WAS ON COUNCIL AGAIN IN 2018 WHEN WE ADOPTED THE LDC AND WE DID THE EXACT SAME THING.

WE SAID NO TO ZONING ORDINANCES, IT'S OUTDATED, IT'S NOT DEVELOPER FRIENDLY, DOESN'T TELL US WHAT WE NEED, WE COULD ADOPT THIS.

SO THEY ADOPTED THE LDC ON TOP OF THAT.

MY ONLY COMMENT, BACK TO THE AUDIENCE, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE ON THIS.

I WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE ITEMS WE'VE PUT IN THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, THAT WE HAVE TIME TO STUDY ALL OF THAT AND WE GET INTO IT, AND NOT JUST FELL SWOOP, ADOPT ANOTHER THING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE COMES BACK.

BECAUSE WE RELY ON STAFF AND WE'VE HAD STAFF TWICE TELL US WHAT WE NEED IS FOR THAT, AND ANOTHER STAFF COMES BEHIND SAY 'NO THAT'S TOTALLY WRONG.' THE BUILDERS WERE SAYING, "WELL, WE CAN'T WORK WITH THIS." FOR ME, IT'S REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE TAKE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THIS THROUGH SO WE CAN ADOPT WHAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT LASTS A LONG TIME OBVIOUSLY.

>> JOHN, TO YOUR POINT.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT '18 WHEN THE LDC WEB DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS ADOPTED, IT DID NOT GO THROUGH LEGAL PEER REVIEW.

THEIR PROCESS HAS INCORPORATED THAT, SO IT WILL BE WELL VETTED AND WE'LL PROBABLY BRING THIS BACK AGAIN WITH OTHER FINAL REVISIONS.

THIS WORKSHOP HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER SO YOU GUYS CAN GIVE YOUR OPINIONS, HEAR WHAT THEY'VE DONE SO FAR.

BECAUSE THIS DOES NEED TO BE A MORE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THAN JUST, "HERE YOU GO, YOU'VE NEVER REVIEWED THIS, BUT GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT."

>> EXACTLY. IT'S NOT SO MUCH AS THE LEGAL ASPECT REALLY.

WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE? IT COULD NOT BE PERFECTLY LEGAL, BUT WE WANT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

I DO RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ON MAKING SURE IT GOES TO EVERYONE, NOT JUST A DOCUMENT GOES THROUGH BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE REALLY BENEFIT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THE QUESTIONS.

WHEN IS ANNUAL ON-STREET PARKING?

>> WHAT IS THAT?

>> IT'S LIKE LITERALLY ANGLETON ON-STREET PARKING.

WAS THAT JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE?

>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS A RECURRING ISSUE WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE SURVEY AND COMPILED THE RESULTS.

I THINK, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU ALL KNOW THIS BETTER, BUT I THINK IN CERTAIN PLACES IN ANGLETON IT IS ON-STREET PARKING WHERE YOU JUST GO OFF THE STREET AND YOU DO ANGLE PARKING MORE IN DOWNTOWN AND SITUATION AND PEOPLE FOR SOME REASON ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT OR THEY FEAR THAT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

I KNOW WE TALKED TO THE POLICE DIRECTOR AND DID THE FILE.

I THINK THEY ALL HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT.

>> PRIMARILY REPRESENTING. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'M FIRST AND FOREMOST CITY PLANNER, SO THAT'S WHERE I START OFF WITH THIS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE KNOWLEDGE IN JUST MY PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND.

WE WERE JUST TALKING.

WE DON'T BELIEVE IN JUST GOING AND TELLING THE CITY WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS.

TYPICALLY AS PLANNERS, WE BELIEVE IN PLANNING THAT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT MIGHT BE OKAY FOR ONE COMMUNITY MAY NOT BE OKAY FOR THE OTHER DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE.

WE HEAR FROM ALL SIDES AND THEN WE COME TO YOU WITH WHAT WE HAVE HEARD AND THEN GET GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE DEFINITELY BELIEVE IN

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I WOULDN'T CLAIM THAT I KNOW WHAT EVERYONE WANTS BUT AGAIN, HAVING WORKED IN SO MANY CITIES AND THAT PROCESS REALLY HAS WORKED WELL AND ALSO IT REALLY HELPS WHEN GETTING THINGS APPROVED WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY IS BEHIND.

THAT'S WHY WE TOOK SOMETIME TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPERS AND THE ENGINEER, TO SEE FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT DO THEY SEE NOW.

OUR TASK WAS TO CLEAN UP THE CODE'S NOT REALLY WRITE NEW ONES, BUT SEE IF WE COULD UPDATE SOME.

WHEN WE HEAR THINGS CANCELED DOESN'T LIKE 40 LATTES. WE TAG THAT.

BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PART OF THIS EXERCISE, THAT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING SYSTEMS. VISION SETTING IS DONE AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LEVEL.

WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT CLEANING UP THE CODE SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DEVELOPING REGULATIONS ARE.

DEFINITELY LIKE I SAID, I SUMMARIZED IT BUT ARE WE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER ZONING DISTRICT OR YOU SHOULD ALLOW 50-FOOT LATTES NOW.

THAT DISCUSSION HAS TO HAPPEN AT A HIGHER LEVEL.

I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

>> MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THE FOCUS OF THE WORK STUDY OR FOLLIES? I'D LIKE TO SEE THE FOCUS, THE ELIMINATION OF DUPLICATED PROCESS.

WHERE WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO CONSOLIDATE OR FLAT-OUT, REMOVE ANYTHING THAT IS A CONFLICT, EVEN IF IT'S GENERALLY CONSISTENT, BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S A DIFFERENT ENDING [INAUDIBLE] PROCESS TO STRAIGHT LINE AND CREATE EFFICIENCY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ADDRESS WHICH POLICY RETAKING BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO CONFLICTING STATUTES THAT I THINK SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO US.

WE MAKE THAT DECISION WITH THE CITY MANAGER, WHOEVER HAS APPROVAL.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT ARE FOR ZONING ORDINANCES AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE WIND BELT TO ONE CODE, [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT'S MAYBE WHERE YOU'RE HEADED.

>> I WANTED TO REQUEST LINDSAY, CAN YOU PUT PAGE 76 I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE HEADED.

THE FIRST THING WAS TO CONSOLIDATE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS SO YES YOU HAVE CHAPTER 20, THAT'S THE ZONING CODE, CHAPTER 23, THAT'S THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THEN CHAPTER 21.5 WHICH THE SIGNAGE.

THAT PAGE IS GOOD. IF YOU CAN SEE HOW WE START THIS, ONCE WE START PLUGGING THINGS THAT ARE SIMILAR TOGETHER, IT'S EASIER TO START COMPARING THEM.

SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE TOP IS REALLY THE CHAPTER OUTLINE THAT WE ARE VISUALIZING.

[INAUDIBLE] WHAT FITS THERE.

IF YOU TAKE EVERYTHING THAT'S OFF FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND TRIED TO INCORPORATE WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THEN START COMPARING IT AND THEN IT BECOMES EASIER.

THAT'S WHERE WE WILL START REALLY AND THEN JUST MAKING SURE WHERE IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACE.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT ZONING, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SHOULD REALLY BE UP THERE TOO.

LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE HAS MORE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, BUT THERE IS CONFLICT THERE AND INCONSISTENCIES.

>> THAT'S WHY [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

CONSOLIDATING THE DARK.

>> I JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE [INAUDIBLE] TOGETHER HERE BECAUSE I REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH THIS.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN.

I WAS ON THE COUNCIL WHEN THE 2009 ZONING ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED, I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH IT, BUT IT WAS THE BEST THING THAT WE HAD AT THAT POINT.

IT WAS ASSUMED THAT WE WOULD HAVE DEVELOPMENT AND WE WOULD KEEP PROCESSING WITH IT.

WELL, NOTHING HAPPENED BECAUSE 2009, THE BOTTOM FELL OUT ECONOMICALLY.

BASICALLY, OUR ORDINANCES AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENT WAS SITTING THERE AT 2009 AND THEN ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WENT FROM GROUND 0 TO A 100 MILES AN HOUR WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT WANTING TO HAPPEN.

WE WERE NOT PREPARED.

THAT'S THE REASON THINGS ARE SO JUMBLED AS

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>> I CAN SHARE FROM MY BEST WORK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> [INAUDIBLE] PAGE 82, MICROPHONE THERE, WHAT THINGS AS THE PERFECT SPOT FOR WALKER'S.

>> ATTEMPT TO DISAGREE WITH.

>> JASON STOP DOING TIKTOK IN MY CLASS.

>>THAT'S RIGHT [LAUGHTER] [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE]

>> THAT, WHAT YOU EXPRESS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GIVEN.

ONE THING I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IS THAT TO ME, IT APPEARS THAT WHEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ADOPTED, THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANOTHER STEP THAT IS REVISING ZONING ORDINANCE AND TURNING IT INTO A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

ONLY IT WAS A TURNOVER THAT WOULD DETERMINE THE THINGS HAPPENED.

NEXT STEP NEVER CAME FORWARD SO THE WAY OF DEVELOPING CODE, AND HERE, CERTAINLY ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND THOUGH, IS THAT EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE THE BEAUTIFIED STUFFED AND SONY DOESN'T APPLY.

ALL YOU CAN APPLY, ETJ IS YOUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND YOUR SIDE REGULATIONS.

THERE'S A REASON TO KEEP THOSE.

PUT THEM IN THE SAME PLACE, BUT THERE'S A REASON TO TRY AND KEEP SOME OF THOSE THINGS SEPARATE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE THINK THAT IN ETJ I HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS PARTICULAR RULE. [INAUDIBLE]

>> [BACKGROUND] TYPICALLY, THE CHAPTER STARTS OFF WITH APPLICABILITY; WHERE IS THIS CHAPTER APPLICABLE? WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WOULD SAY APPLICABLE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND THE ETJ.

SAME THING, THE SIGN-IN CHAPTER WILL SAY THAT, BUT THEN ALL THE OTHERS WILL CLARIFY, THIS IS ONLY APPLICABLE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. THAT CAN BE DONE.

>> NOW I LIKE YOUR IDEAS OF YOUR HYPERLINKS AND MAKING IT EASIER TO LOCATE THIS INFORMATION, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF THE PROCESS.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S COMPLICATED.

IT'S NOT EASY TO BE LIKE THAT.

BUT HE SAID, YEAH, WE JUST APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS AND IT TAKES A LOT OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL BECAUSE YOU START GETTING INTO IT AND YOU REALIZE, OH MY GOSH, I FORGOT TO PUT THIS OR DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT OR SHOULD HAVE OR WE MEANT TO.

I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT YES, IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO USE TECHNOLOGY, I THINK THERE'S JUST MAYBE SOME MULTIPLE IDEAS PROBABLY PUT STILL HAVING SOME PIECE OF PAPER THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT TOO, A CHECKLIST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

HAVE SOMETHING ON HAND.

IT MAY BE DIFFERENT GENERATIONS VERSUS [INAUDIBLE]

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

[INAUDIBLE]

>> AFTER WE FINISH ON THE POINT OF THE AUDIT, I GUESS YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM AS WELL.

BECAUSE THEY APPLY SOME OF THE HEART ARE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE, THEY'VE GOT YOUR TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS AND THE PITFALLS.

THERE'S BEEN SOME GOOD STUFF.

I DON'T DISCREDIT THAT, BUT ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL OR STAFF?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHEN YOU GET BACK TO THE ETJ, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE.

I THINK THE COUNTY IN SOME RESPECTS GOT CAUGHT LIKE THE CITY OF ANGLETON WITH DEVELOPERS FLOODING IN PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH BRAZORIA COUNTY WHERE THEY CAME IN AND STARTED DEVELOPMENTS AND COUNTY WASN'T QUITE PREPARED FOR LOT SIZES.

WE'VE GOT A DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE WITH 40-FOOT LOT SIZES.

HASTILY ADJUSTED, BRAZORIA COUNTY IS NOW

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BUT IT SEEMS THE WAY I GOT FROM HIM AND I COULD HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD, IT'S LIKE THERE'S A SCENE IN HERE WHERE AROUND OUR ETJ, IF THEY TOUCH OUR ETJ, THEN THESE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS WILL DEFER TO WHERE THE ETJ IS AT.

THEY ARE SKATING AWAY FROM THE 80 FOOT LOTS AND STICKING IN CLOSE TO ANGLETON.

RIGHT NOW, AND IT COULD BE 45 FOOT LOTS IF WE STILL PROVE OR GIVE WHATEVER.

I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE A WAY TO JUST ANNEX THIS 80 FOOT FOR SNEAKING IN AND TOUCHING OUR ETJ, WELL, ANGLETON'S IS IN CHARGE.

WE REALLY WANT 45 OR HOW DO WE DO THAT? LIKE THIS PARTICULAR ONE, PROBABLY 19 PERCENT OF IT IF NOT IN OUR ETJ.

>> TYPICALLY, IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS, IT'S DIFFICULT NOW.

THE QUESTION IS, WHY ARE THEY IN FRONT OF YOU? ARE THEY LOOKING FOR HELP WITH INFRASTRUCTURE? IS IT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? THEN WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN.

WE HAVE ETJ DEVELOPMENT AND IF THEY WANTED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE TREATED THEM LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO BE PART OF THE CITY.

IN FACT, ONE OF THE SUBDIVISIONS, THE CITY EVEN SAID WE WOULD LIKE EVERY HOUSE TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT FROM THE CITY EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE ETJ.

BECAUSE ONE DAY WE KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE ANNEXED AND WE DON'T WANT SUSTENANCE BECAUSE BUILDING CODES ARE A BIG DEAL IN THE ETJ.

CONNIE IS VERY LAX. SO IT DEPENDS.

ARE THEY IN FRONT OF YOU FOR SOMETHING? I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION STARTS.

I'LL HAVE MINDY ANSWER THIS TO THE GROUP.

SHE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE.

>> YEAH, I AGREE. I THINK RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE BEING APPROACHED BY DEVELOPERS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, A LOT OF POINTED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A BIGGER CONCEPT DISCUSSION ON YOUR VISION AND WHAT DO YOU SEE.

I WAS IN THE COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THEY WERE VERY ADAMANT THAT THEY HAD JUST GONE FROM 60-70 FOOT LOTS IN THE CITY.

THE DEVELOPER WAS COMING IN WITH A PROPOSAL FOR 50-FOOT LOTS AND THEY SAID NO.

BUT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT THAT CAN WORK THROUGH.

THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS. IN FACT, CHRIS AND I WERE LISTENING TO A PRESENTATION RECENTLY ON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOOLS AND THINGS OUT THERE SO YOU AS A COUNCIL AND A ZONING COMMISSION YOU HAVE TO REALLY PUT SOME TIME AND EFFORT INTO YOUR VISION.

WHAT DO YOU SEE ON POINTS LIKE THAT AS FAR AS LOT SIZES? THAT'S A BIG TOPIC IN EVERY CITY, REALLY.

WHAT ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH? WHAT DO YOU SEE FROM YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS THE VISION FOR THE CITY? DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE PROTECTION OF THOSE BIGGER LOTS? IT'S NOT ALWAYS BENEFICIAL.

THERE'S THINGS THAT, BUT FROM A DEVELOPER'S STANDPOINT, THEY WANT TO MAKE IT WORK ECONOMICALLY.

SO HOW CAN YOU COME TO A HAPPY MIDDLE GROUND WITHOUT GOING TO 35 OR 40 FOOT LOTS THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT WITH SOME TOOLS, BE IT A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN.

THOSE ARE ALL BIGGER TOPICS FOR SOME PLANNING THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT AND NOT REALLY THROUGH THIS EXERCISE.

>> LET ME ASK YOU AGAIN, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE AT SOME POINT IN TIME BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS AN AGENDA.

HOW THEN DOES THAT PLAY INTO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE? DO YOU THEN COME BACK AND UPDATE AFTER THOSE BIGGER CONVERSATIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE?

>> SURE. THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.

TYPICALLY, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IS CITIES UPDATE THEIR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OFTEN.

IN FACT, WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE FIRST YEAR BEING, [INAUDIBLE] WE WERE ALSO LEARNING AND FIGURING IT OUT.

LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT THE CONSULTANT HAS FOR THEM SOMETIMES.

IT LOOKS GREAT, BUT WHEN YOU START TO IMPLEMENT IT, THEN YOU'RE LIKE, "THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND THIS HASN'T BEEN CLARIFIED." THAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE YEARS AS LONG AS EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.

THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY TO DO IT,

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IF YOU GO BACK AND DO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THERE ARE SOME BASIC CHANGES THAT ARE MADE, ALWAYS COME BACK AND ADD MORE ZONING DISTRICTS, REMOVE GREATER SYNTAX.

ALL THOSE THINGS CAN BE CHANGED AT ANY TIME.

SO [INAUDIBLE] [BACKGROUND] WE DID A REVIEW OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE REASON WHY I REMEMBER, BECAUSE IT WAS THE WEEKEND ON THE REVIEW SCALE.

THERE ARE WATER SYSTEMS, SO THAT WAS WHAT? A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, MAYBE A YEAR, RIGHT AFTER YOU GOT HERE, RIGHT?

>>YEAH. IN 2020.

WE DID THE WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT WAS BEFORE [INAUDIBLE] ALL OF YOU WILL HAVE DEVELOPED AND SHOWING UP AT OUR BACK DOOR.

[INAUDIBLE] JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT [INAUDIBLE] NOW THAT THEY TURNED THE CAR ON AND THEN MOVE FORWARD.

CHRIS AND I DISCUSSED [INAUDIBLE] AND HOW OFTEN NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLANS IN EVERY COUPLE YEARS OR 4-5 YEARS.

WE MAY DO THAT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY SIT BACK TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN BECAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T DISCUSS PROBABLE CONVERSATIONS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOUSING, BUT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT HOUSING IN [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE KNOW NOW.

[INAUDIBLE], THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

MAYBE THE OPPORTUNITY, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, TO SIT BACK AND LOOK AT THIS AFTER WE MAYBE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO BOMBARD A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A LOT OF MEETINGS AND A LOT OF LONG NIGHTS, THAT WE ALREADY HAD LONG NIGHTS AND LONG MEETINGS, SO INSTEAD OF [INAUDIBLE] THAT, WE CAN DO THAT AGAIN.

ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S PLANNING ON ZONING OUR OFFICE?

>> I DID THAT.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I GUESS THEY'RE [INAUDIBLE] THERE.

THE REVIEW WE DID IN 2020 WAS THE COUNCIL STRATEGIC [INAUDIBLE] MEET US BACK THERE.

I THINK AS SOON AS GETTING [INAUDIBLE], REALLY [INAUDIBLE] SEEN COUNCILS OR STAKEHOLDERS [INAUDIBLE] IN CONFERENCE [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT, TO ME, SEEMS LIKE A GROWING HARD WORKFORCE FOR OUR STAFF.

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. HE DIDN'T [INAUDIBLE] FOR THIS AND SOMEONE ACTUALLY [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE] THING.

IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT, THEY GO BACK AND CHANGE IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO ALL THIS WORK AND THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A MEETING OR WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW, AND THEN [INAUDIBLE] ASK YOU TO CHANGE IT.

[INAUDIBLE] MUST SEEM TO STOP THIS, BUT THE QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU WAS AROUND PLANS.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TOO MANY PLANS.

CAN YOU GO A LITTLE BIT INTO [NOISE] WHAT YOU MEAN BY [INAUDIBLE], BECAUSE THE VERY NEXT SECTION SAID, " [INAUDIBLE] HOUSING DIVERSE [INAUDIBLE]." I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT [INAUDIBLE].

>> YEAH, LET ME JUST FIND THAT SECTION IN THE DIAGNOSTIC.

>> [INAUDIBLE] A QUESTION FOR YOU.

THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TOTAL [INAUDIBLE] WAS SEVEN OR EIGHT IN TODAY'S PLANS.

THERE'S REGULAR, ORDINARY PLAN, [INAUDIBLE] THREE PLANS AND IT HAS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, [INAUDIBLE] AND A REGULAR PRELIMINARY PLAN, [INAUDIBLE] PLAN.

THERE'S ONE THAT'S CALLED A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR USE IN [INAUDIBLE] WHERE IT ACTUALLY IMPROVES THE SITE PLAN [INAUDIBLE].

THERE IS BENDING PLANTS, [INAUDIBLE] DESIGNED FOR [INAUDIBLE] DOWN TWO LOTS.

[INAUDIBLE] BOTH LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT BY IN BETWEEN THEM THAT DON'T REALLY INVOLVE ANY KIND OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YOU'RE JUST BUILDING THEM UP, AND ADJUSTING THEM ONLINE OR SELL A PART OF YOUR LOT TO YOUR NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR, OR JUST ONLINE, AND PROBABLY THERE'S CONSOLIDATION PLANS.

THERE'S A MINOR PLAN, WHICH IS THE ABILITY TO DO, TO BE DONE AND EXTREMELY THOSE INVOLVED DOING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR CITY COUNCIL.

THERE'S A CRITERIA AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT SAYS, "IF YOU MEET THESE CRITERIA, YOU CAN DO YOUR SUBDIVISION [INAUDIBLE] PLAN." ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA IS THAT THERE'S MORE LIVES FROM US, AND THERE'S NO EXTENSION, AND PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE] THAT HAVE TO BE OUT, SO THAT CAN BE THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE PLANS THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE [INAUDIBLE] YEARS IN COUNCIL.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF MORE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE [INAUDIBLE].

>> [OVERLAPPING] ADMINISTRATION [INAUDIBLE] ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANS AND PROCEDURES THAT AROUND THE PLAN.

>> CORRECT.

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>> THAT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT HOUSING DIVERSITY.

>> RIGHT. I GOT YOU.

>> I LIKE TO MAKE A [INAUDIBLE].

IT FOLLOWS UP WITH SOMETHING THAT JOHN WAS SAYING.

I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHICH SHOULD COME FIRST FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THIS.

MY THINKING IS, THIS NEEDS TO COME FIRST BECAUSE JUST LOOKING AT IT, IT CLARIFIES SO MANY THINGS SO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR PROBLEMS ARE.

IT'S EASIER TO FIND THEM AND WHERE WE ARE NOW, IT'S HARD TO SAY THEM.

IN ORDER TO MAKE THE CHANGES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AS FAR AS SIZES OF LOTS OF HOUSES, ANY OF THAT, THOSE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ORDINANCES, SO THAT'S WHERE THE LIVING PART OF THIS DOCUMENT FROM HERS IS AS YOU CHANGE ORDINANCES FOR WHATEVER YOUR INTENT IS.

WAIT, MY TWO CENTS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I THOUGHT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, [INAUDIBLE] AND CHRIS THE OTHER DAY THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE IS, IN THIS NAME, NOT THE DEFINITION FOR A DIFFERENT ALPHABET, JOHN'S GOING TO SAY, GET THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED.

I WANT US TO LOOK AT IT. CITY'S MOVED.

THERE'S BEEN PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE] BYPASS THIS.

[INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPED THROUGH TOWN, 35S [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPED IN A CERTAIN WAY.

I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT COURT ORDERS, IF YOU WILL, OR IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A COURT ORDER.

START [INAUDIBLE] LESS TO WORK THIS OUT.

ALL THESE SORTS OF THOUGHTS THAT KEEP BEING PICTURED HOW IT IS, OF COURSE, THE ZONING FROM WEST RESIDENTIAL THAT'S GOING TO BE IN A COMMERCIAL.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT I KNOW I'VE SET UP [INAUDIBLE] CITY COUNCIL LEVEL, BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY OUR PLAN.

I'M LOOKING AT IT GOING, MAYBE IT DID FOUR YEARS AGO, WHEN IT WAS LAST ADDRESSED, BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

AGAIN, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE MAYBE THEN THE IDEA OF WHAT IS IT, BUT AT SOME POINT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS PUT INTO ACTION [INAUDIBLE] CITIZENS OR WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.

I AGREE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FIND SOME OF THESE [INAUDIBLE], NOT JUST BEING PICTURED OUT OF THIS.

THE MAYOR HAD THIS MEETING AND I WAS [INAUDIBLE].

IT WAS MORE LEVEL IDEAS IN ACTUAL PART.

>> DROPS TO THAT HISTORICAL THING FOR ALL LIKE THE [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE, THIS [INAUDIBLE] IS PART OF [INAUDIBLE] SUB-COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT IT.

LIKE YOU SAID, IF A COMMUNITY IDENTIFY, "HEY, WE WANT TO GO TO THE PARK, AND WE CAN'T GET THERE. HOW DO WE GET THERE?" THERE'S ALSO THE TRANSITION PLAN WHICH WILL HELP US IDENTIFY DEFICIENCIES.

WE'VE GOT A SIDEWALK, BUT IT'D JUST BE USED [INAUDIBLE].

I MEAN, WALKING IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT WALKING, THERE'S PARTS OF THAT THAT ARE FINE, AND THERE'S PARTS THAT ARE JUST TORN UP FOR THE SIDEWALKS ON KIDS.

YOU CAN'T GET A WHEELCHAIR UP OVER THE SEWER BOX.

I'VE GOT LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON THAT ARE HELPING IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT I AGREE, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK.

WE TALKED ABOUT [INAUDIBLE], BECAUSE THAT'S A MAJOR EAST-WEST [INAUDIBLE], SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH FURTHER STUDY TO FIGURE OUT [LAUGHTER] WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO IMPROVE THEM, BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY ROAD, BUT HOW DO WE WIND IT, HOW DO WE CREATE [INAUDIBLE] MOBILITY IN THE EAST OR WEST?

>> [INAUDIBLE] CITIES ALSO.

>> YEAH.

>> A LOT OF IT.

>> YEAH.

GREAT POINT. I WAS GOING TO MENTION HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOWN REALLY HELPS THE PROCESS PLANNING AND STREAMLINE IT AS WELL SO THERE'S NO GUESSWORK INVOLVED.

WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH ENGINEERS OR DEVELOPERS, YOU SIMPLY POINT, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THEN YOU'RE LOOKING TO TEST IT OUT YOU CAN BRING IT TO COUNCIL AND SEE HOW THAT INTERACTS WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S A VALUABLE TOOL TO HAVE AHEAD OF TIME [INAUDIBLE].

>> ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU ALL DO HAVE THESE SKELETON DEVELOPMENT [INAUDIBLE].

I KNOW YOU HAVE WHAT'S ON PAPER PRESENTLY, BUT SOMETIMES I THINK FOR CITY COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE].

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>> WELL, IT ALSO HELPS PROMOTE CONSISTENCY IN THE APPLICATION BECAUSE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN IS YOU GO BY THEN IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH EASIER TO PROCESS IF THERE'S ANY ZONING VARIANCE REQUESTS, YOU GUYS, ZONING EXCEPTIONS, WHATEVER.

>> I THINK THAT A CHECKLIST WILL MAKE THEM MORE ROBUST IS GIVING THE EFFICIENCY BECAUSE YOU CAN EASILY POINT TO THIS AS YOUR ROUTE.

I SEE THE RECEPTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND KNOWING ALL THAT INFORMATION RIGHT FROM THE GET-GO THERE'S NO TIME YOUR RESEARCH GOES TO, WHAT DID THEY SAY OR HOW IS THIS GOING? FORWARD OR WHAT DO YOU CHANGE ABOUT IT AND IT'S ALL STARTING THERE WITH GOOD DIRECTION AND THAT PATH TO ACTUALLY GETTING TO THE GROUND..

>> WE WORK WITH COUNCIL, [INAUDIBLE], STAFF MEMBERS, WE GO TO THE SIDEWALL HERE.

I CAN SEE OUR DEVELOPERS AND OUR OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS IN THE ROOM.

FEEL FREE IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A COMMENT OR TWO.

BEGIN RIGHT TO LEFT, LEFT TO RIGHT.

LET'S START ON THE LEFT HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO THE RIGHT.

>> WHAT I CAN SAY FROM DEVELOPING SUBDIVISIONS AND BUILDING NUMBERS FOR THEM, 30 PLUS YEARS IN SPHERE NAMES AND THIS LAST SECTION HAS BEEN MOST CUMBERSOME TIMES.

WE USED TO DO A PROJECT IN SECTION 6 OF THE [INAUDIBLE] WE DID FOR THEM YEARS AGO IN HALF THE TIME WE PUT IT TOGETHER.

[NOISE] WHEN WE WENT TO SUGARLAND, THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF THAT IS IN HERE WHICH REALLY ISN'T NECESSARY.

I KNOW THERE ARE SOME THAT YOU'VE SPOKEN ON.

WHY DO YOU NEED A TIA FOR A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OR 30 LINE DEVELOPMENT? I SEE IT OVER [INAUDIBLE] OR SOMETHING ELSE OR IF THERE'S CONSTRAINTS ON THE ROAD.

THERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT COMMON SENSE WENT AWAY, BUT IN THE PAST, WE'VE ALWAYS USED ANGLETON OR JACKSON AND UNDERSTAND CHANGING THINGS.

I UNDERSTAND WHY THE EXPENSE OF DOING DEVELOPMENT IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.

WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE], PARK FEES, HDR TO DO TRAFFIC STUDIES, TO DO ALL THINGS SO THAT WENT UP.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT MAKE PART, WE RELY ON THIS DEVELOPMENTS, ENGINEERS TOO, WE WRITE THE CHECK, THEY DO ALL THE HARD WORK.

I'D NEVER HEARD ROBYN GET SOME ACTION IN THE PAST YEAR [LAUGHTER] AND FRUSTRATING, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT AS WE WENT AND BECAUSE IT WASN'T QUITE CLEAR AND STAFF, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY WERE THE SAME WAY.

I FEEL LIKE THEY WERE LEARNING, BUT IT WAS HARD.

>> BUT THERE'S SOME IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE MADE TO MAKE IT EASIER AND MORE STREAMLINE AND WE MAY BE GETTING CLOSER, BUT THIS ONE HAS BEEN HARDER THAN ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS OVER THE YEARS WE PUT TOGETHER.

I'VE USED SEVERAL ENGINEERING FIRMS OVER THE YEARS, BUT THIS ONE PRIMARILY AND WHEN I SEE THEM SOMETIMES STRUGGLING TO FIND AN ANSWER WHEN NOBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT.

BUT THERE ARE SOMETHINGS THAT I CAN POINT TO YOU GUYS THAT I WISH YOU ALL WOULD BE MORE CONSISTENT.

SOMETIMES THERE'S NOT ANY AND DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT IF SOMEBODY COMES TO YOU AND WANTS TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE CITY, SMALL, FLAT SUBDIVISION MAYBE SIX HOMES, EIGHT HOMES, YOU GIVE A VARIANCE FOR SIDEWALKS WHEN SIDEWALKS ARE REQUIRED BY ORDINATES.

WHAT I FOUND AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY INHERITED JOKES THAT JUST GROW BY THIS MORNING, EVERY DAY, TWICE A DAY, THE SENIOR CITIZENS USING A WALKER WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK, BUT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO GET IN THE STREET.

YOU MAY SAY THAT SIDEWALKS MAY NOT BE CONNECTING IF IT'S NOT OLDER PART OF TOWN, SOME INFILL PROJECT, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE HOMES COULD USE A SIDEWALK TO GET OUT AND HAVE SOME MOBILITY OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME.

YOU GET PRESSURE SOMETIMES FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY, BUT TO ME IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING, IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD A SIDEWALK, YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS BUSINESS.

THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS I SEE SOMETIMES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A HARD JOB.

IT'S HARD TO SAY NO, I GET IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONSISTENCY IN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE LADIES THAT WE'RE TALKING.

ONE OF YOU MENTIONED SOME ABOUT PDS, PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS AND HOW YOU LIKE THEM.

THEY'RE VERY ALL ENCOMPASSING,

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IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD DO FOR A SINGLE SECTION LIKE A 20 LOT SECTION WITHIN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, OR WOULD YOU THINK THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO GO AND USE A PDE RATHER THAN-

>> WERE YOU DONE?

>> SHE'S HAVING A [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER].

>> SORRY. IT JUST CAME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE RECORDING PEOPLE SAY THEY COULDN'T HEAR US IF WE ARE NOT USING THE MICS.

>> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

YOU'RE SAYING, WOULD A PD BE APPROPRIATE IF THERE WAS SOME VACANT LAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUBDIVISION?

>> WELL, SAY A SECTION THAT WASN'T COMPLETED.

>> RIGHT.

>> WOULD YOU USE A PDE FOR THEM?

>> HELLO. THERE IT IS.

>> THANK YOU. I'M JUST ASKING YOU BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT IT UP.

WOULD YOU USE A PD TO ALLOW THAT SECTION TO HAVE SAY, WHERE THE OTHER SECTIONS MAYBE HAD A 20 FOOT, 25 FOOT REAR BUILDING LINE AND YOU WANTED ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE IT, WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT?

>> I GUESS.

>> I CAN TAKE IT.

>> YEAH.

>> WE HAD THAT EXACT SCENARIO IN THE CITY OF OCAMPO.

IT WAS OUR OLD HOSPITAL THAT WE REDEVELOPED THAT PROPERTY AND WE DID IT WITH A PD AND IT WORKED WELL BECAUSE WE BASICALLY DID GARDEN TYPE HOMES WITH A COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE AREA.

IT WASN'T A HUGE TRACT OF LAND.

IT PROBABLY ENDED UP, I THINK IT WAS IN 16 HOMES, BUT IT WORKED WELL FOR US TO DO THAT AND IT'S BEEN VERY WELL.

IT WAS MUCH NEEDED HOMES IN THAT AREA.

>> YOU'D MIX PDS AND OTHERS ZONING IN THE SAME PROJECT?

>> WE DID BECAUSE IT WAS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, OLDER DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT HOSPITAL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

WE HAD BUILT A NEW HOSPITAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN AND THAT PARTICULAR AREA THE PROJECT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WE ACTUALLY DID A TIERS TO GO IN AND REDEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AND IT WORKED BEAUTIFULLY AND WE DID THE PD AND IT'S WORKED VERY WELL THERE.

>> THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. ONE MORE QUESTION AND I MAY BE THE ODD PERSON IN THIS ROOM, BUT I'M NOT FOND OF PDS PER SE AND ANGLETON HAS WHATEVER 2,400 LOTS RIGHT NOW IN VARIOUS STAGES AND PROBABLY 2,200 OF THEM ARE ALL PDS.

THE MAJORITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OVER THE YEARS IN A SMALL TOWN, THE TAXES WERE ALWAYS A PROBLEM.

HAVE YOU FOUND IN YOUR CITY PLANNING OR WHATEVER YOU'VE DONE THAT DOUBLING THE TAX RATE IN THE CITY WITH A PAD THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY AMENITIES.

SOME PDS HAVE YOU GET EXTRA AMENITIES OR MAYBE THE PD IS PROVIDING INFRASTRUCTURE IN SOME WAY OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IF A PD IS JUST FOR DEVELOPMENT ONLY, HAVE YOU FOUND THAT PEOPLE TEND TO HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THE ADDED TAXES?

>> SURE. IN THE DALLAS FORTWORTH AREA, THEY'VE USED THEM A LOT MORE THAN IN THIS AREA.

THEY'VE BEEN USED IN THIS AREA, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY UP THERE.

THEY REALLY STARTED TO LAYER THOSE THINGS AND MAKE IT WHERE LIKE WE DEALT WITH THE MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND A PD AND THAT HELPED TO KEEP THE COST DOWN FROM THE PD STANDPOINT.

BUT IT WAS AN ASSESSMENT ON THE DEVELOPER, ON THE MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN LET YOUR THAT AND NOT HAVE THE OVERARCHING TAX RATE THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT, BUT HOW CAN WE GET THAT PROPERTY DEVELOPED WHERE IT'S A GOOD BALANCE FOR THE DEVELOPER AND FOR THE MUNICIPALITY AND OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE LONG-TERM INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'LL HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED.

LAYERING THOSE TOOLS IS WHAT I'M SEEING MORE NOW THAN JUST A STRAIGHT PD.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> A LOT OF THINGS I HAVE TO SAY IS I ACTUALLY I AGREE WITH CHRIS ON A LOT OF THEM.

I'LL JUST GO OVER JUST A FEW OF THE ITEMS ON ONE PAGE NOT THE ENTIRE BOOK.

[NOISE] I DID LIKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE PUT IN FOR WHAT CITIES THEY DO LIKE, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AND MIMIC, I THINK LATE JACKSON'S A GREAT ONE, PEARLAND IS A GOOD ONE, AND ALVIN AND MANDEL, THEY'RE GOOD EXAMPLES OF CITIES THAT I'VE DONE WORK FOR AND THINGS GET TURNED AROUND PRETTY QUICKLY.

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IN TERMS OF PDES, I WILL SAY THIS, IT FELT LIKE A LOT OF PDES WE'VE DONE WE'RE JUST TO CIRCUMVENT THE RULES AND NOT ACTUALLY PROVIDING ITS ZONING OF ANYTHING.

IT MADE ROBIN [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] BUT WE HAD A LOT OF TIMES REWORKING PLATS AND REWORKING ENTIRE SUBDIVISIONS JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE IDEA ON THE PD WITH THE CITY PLANNERS AND THE CLIENT, AND EIGHT MONTHS INTO IT THEY'RE LIKE, WE NEED TO DO THIS BECAUSE NOW THE PDES GOT THIS IN IT, AND IT'S A HEADACHE BUT WE OVERCAME IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LESS PDES, BUT OBVIOUSLY IF A TRACK IS LARGE ENOUGH, IT SHOULD WARN.

IF IT'S SOMETHING LARGER THAN 50 ACRES OR A 100 ACRES, THAT'S WHEN A PDE SHOULD COME IN.

TIAA, LIKE CHRIS WAS SAYING, WE HAVE THOSE SIX CRITERIA THAT TRIGGERED A THRESHOLD FOR TIAA.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE THRESHOLDS REVISED, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM ELIMINATED.

ONE OF OUR THOUGHTS WAS 30 WATTS IS A TRIGGER FOR HAVING EITHER A BOWL OF ART STYLE ENTRANCE OR MULTIPLE ENTRANCES INTO A SUBDIVISION.

IT'S NOT HARD TO EXCEED 30, YOU CAN DO THAT ON A 10 ACRE LOT.

ON 20 ACRES, YOU CAN GET ANYWHERE BETWEEN 70 DOWN TO WHAT CHRIS HAD LIKE 20 LOTS ALL THE WAY UP TO 80.

IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE ABOUT 70 LOTS ON ONE ENTRANCE, AND THAT'S JUST ONE THOUGHT.

LOT SIZES, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE MANY ISSUES WITH THE LOT SIZES THAT OUR CLIENTS SUGGEST.

FOR EVERY BLOCK SIZE THERE IS, THERE'S A HOUSE THAT WILL FIT IT, AS LONG AS YOU HONOR YOUR SETBACKS, YOUR FRONT SETBACKS IN YOUR SIDE SETBACKS, AND YOU MAKE ROOM FOR ALL THE UTILITIES, THE LOTS WILL WORK.

THE LAST TWO ITEMS IT'S WHAT FRUSTRATES ME THE MOST IS THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE AND THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN, IT'S VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO DOWN AND BORROW SOMETHING FROM BLAKE JACKSON OR THE CITY OF ALVIN OR LAKE CITY AND BUILD OFF FOR THAT.

THE HERITAGE TREE PLAN, WE'VE [LAUGHTER] HAD A COUPLE OF VERY STRONG MEANS ABOUT IT, BUT WE KNEW WE NEED TO PUT SOME NUMBERS ON THERE, WE DO NEED MINIMUM DIAMETERS FOR TREES, LIKE WHAT CECIL SAID, A HERITAGE TREE NEEDS TO AT LEAST BE OLDER THAN HIM TO BE CONSIDERED A HERITAGE TREE.

IF WE CAN AT LEAST PUT A MINIMUM DIAMETER ON THE TREE, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPERS CAN USE FOR BETTER PLANNING, BECAUSE WITH THE WAY THE CURRENT CODE IS WRITTEN, THEY CAN'T TOUCH THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL THEY GET A TREE SURVEY DONE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING TO DO.

IT COULD BE A DEAL KILLER ON A PROJECT THAT THEY WENT INTO THE DESIGN, THEY DID THE SURVEY, THEY DID THE GEO TECH, AND THEN THEY FOUND OUT THAT THERE'S JUST TOO MANY TREES FOR THEM TO OVERCOME ANY PLAN.

OTHER THAN THAT, ROBIN AND DOUG DID SUBMIT SOMETHING TO THE SURVEY MONKEY, AND A LOT OF IT WAS ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE, BUT THAT'S JUST STUFF THAT HE WON'T TALK ABOUT IN THIS MINUTE, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO, REVISE AND WE CAN DISCUSS IN FURTHER MEETINGS AND WE DON'T MIND HELPING.

ROBIN HAS BEEN HERE AND ANGLE TIM FOREVER AND SHE DOESN'T WANT TO LEAVE [LAUGHTER] SO THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.

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>> ARE YOU READY? EVERYBODY GETS UP [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU.

[NOISE] I THINK THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND I COMPLEMENT COUNCIL STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS.

[NOISE] MY ONLY HOPE AND RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU STAY WITH IT.

JUST WRITE A REPORT AND RUN OFF INTO THE SUNSET, SO EVERYBODY IN ANGLES THINK CAN LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER.

IT'S A PROCESS, AND YOU SPOKE IT'S A PROCESS, AND IT IS A PROCESS.

THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS WHEN YOU'RE THROUGH WITH IT, YOU WILL BE SOMEWHERE WITH IT.

WE ONLY CAN DO THE BEST WE CAN.

QUITE FRANKLY I LIKE YOUR WORK.

ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST TO THINK ABOUT, IS THAT CHART, WHICH IS EXCELLENT, PUT SOME TIMELINES ON IT.

IT'S AMAZING HOW STAFF, COUNCIL, CONSULTANTS, ENGINEERS, LAND PLANNERS, DEVELOPERS, THEY SEE THAT, IN THE SHOOT FOR IS THE TARGET INSTEAD OF FOUL IT AND WAIT UNTIL WE CALL YOU, REALLY? BUT THEY NEVER CALL. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU. GOOD WORK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I ACTUALLY SAT DOWN A LOT AND SO SHE'S HEARD MOST OF MY THINGS, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO REINFORCE WHAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SHARED TONIGHT IS THAT, WHERE AS THE NEW DEVELOPER AND TOWN WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR, I GUESS TWO YEARS, IT'LL BE JANUARY, WITH THAT WE'RE WRAPPING UP ON THIS PROCESS.

IT'S REALLY A CENTRALIZATION OF INFORMATION, PROCESSES, PERMITS WHERE WE CAN GO TO AS A NEW GUY IN TOWN.

WE OBVIOUSLY RELY ON LIKE A BEGGAR LOSS, BECAUSE WE COME IN FROM OUTSIDE OF YOUR CITY AND WE WANT TO ENGAGE THE LOCAL FIRM.

FOR THE RECORD ROBINSON NEVER COSTED ME [LAUGHTER] SHE'S HEARD ME SAY A LOT OF BAD THINGS, BUT SHE'S NEVER SAID ANYTHING BAD TO ME, SHE'S A MUCH BETTER PERSON.

BUT HAVING THAT SOURCE FOR A CENTRALIZED PLACE TO GO OR PERSON TO GO IS INVALUABLE.

HAVING SOME OF THESE STANDARDIZATION THAT MIGHT BE THERE, SOMETHING LIKE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

EVERY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT, THERE'S GOING TO BE ELEMENTS OF THAT, THAT WE WILL NEGOTIATE WITH THE CITY AND THEY WILL REQUIRE IT.

BUT A STANDARDIZED FORM WHERE YOU CAN ATLEAST BASE THAT OFF AND START YOUR CONVERSATION WOULD HAVE SAVED, LIKE US IN OUR CASE, WE NEGOTIATED OR ATTEMPTED TO NEGOTIATE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OVER PROBABLY ALMOST A 10 MONTH PERIOD.

I THINK A LOT OF THIS FRANKLY I SHOULD WE CAME IN AND IN A VERY INOPPORTUNE TIME, WE STARTED THE PROCESS WITH A NAME, WE'VE ALREADY SAID WE WOULD NOT REPEAT, AND WE WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF PLANNERS, GEORGE AND WAYNE.

I THINK THE REALLY GOOD THING WE HAVE NOW IS YOU HAVE A GREAT STAFF IN PLACE, AND SO THAT A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT PERHAPS OUR DEVELOPMENT WENT THROUGH ARE NO LONGER TO BE APPLICABLE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT GOOD STAFF IN PLACE.

THE LAST THING IS, FROM A DEVELOPER'S PERSPECTIVE AND COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND TOUCHED ON IT, IS THE STREAMLINING OF ANY PROCESSES THAT ARE THERE, ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.

I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL WILL NEVER MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD THAT THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE TOO, WE AS A DEVELOPER, HAVE DOLLARS OUT, SO EVERY TIME WE DELAY A VOTE ON APPROVAL FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS OR A MONTH, THAT'S, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, ADDITIONAL COSTS TO OUR PROJECTS, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY FIGHTING A VERY INFLATIONARY MARKET AS FAR AS COSTS WITHIN THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT GAME, SO IT JUST REALLY HELPS US IN THAT, SO THAT'S JUST MORE OF A PLATE THAN ANYBODY.

BUT OTHERWISE, I THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALL THIS, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

>> I CAME UP HERE, LINDSEY TOLD ME ABOUT THE MEETING ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK, AND I THOUGHT, YEAH, I NEED TO COME UP HERE JUST TO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT BEING THE ONLY APPRAISAL END OF A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND STUFF.

[01:25:01]

I GOT HERE LATE, BUT LUCKILY CARL SHARED BOOKLETS WITH ME SO I COULD GET SOME INFORMATION OUT OF HIM AND CATCH WHERE YOU ALL WERE AT.

THE ONLY THING THAT I THINK THAT I REALLY LIKE IS THE PUSHING OF LARGER LOTS, SMALLER LOT.

I'VE BEEN PRAISING FOR 35 YEARS AND YOU'RE ANGLETON TOWN SITE, 50-FOOT LOTS, ORIGINAL TOWN SITE, WHY WOULD YOU EVER GO SMALLER THAN THAT? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT AND I LIKED THE FACT THAT COUNTY WENT UP TO 80 FOOT LOTS.YOU MIGHT NOT NEED TO BE QUITE THAT LARGE, BUT YOU DEVELOPERS COME IN, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BUILD THE HOUSE OR YOU'RE GOING TO STILL MAKE THE MONEY.THERE'S BUYERS OUT THERE.

THAT'S MY OPINION, BUT I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'RE COMING UP WITH.

THIS REALLY WOULD HELP STREAMLINE THINGS, AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT I WORK WITH IN THE APPRAISAL BUSINESS AND THAT I'VE TALKED WITH THAT WANT TO COME INTO THIS AREA THAT HAVE HAD PROBLEMS EVEN UP IN MARVEL, EVEN SOME IN PEARLAND.

BUT THE MAIN THING IS TO DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE SOME OF THE THINGS, COMMON SENSE THINGS.

I JUST WENT ROUND AND ROUND WITH PEARLAND ON A 40 ACRE TRACT TO PUT A 600 SQUARE FOOT GREENHOUSE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL.

THEY WON'T DO IT WITHOUT PERMITS AND WITHOUT HIM GIVEN AN EASEMENT.

STREAMLINE THINGS ARE GREAT, BUT ALSO JUST KEEP THE COMMONSENSE AND THERE TOO.

BUT NOW I LIKE THIS, I REALLY THINK JUST GO MAKE THINGS EASIER AND, GET THINGS BACK ON COURSE FOR A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS.

NO, I THINK IT'S GREAT.

>> YOU'VE HEARD FROM US, SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP TO INVEST IN YOU ALL? WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE TASKED WITH NEXT?

>>I GUESS WE GOT SOME GREAT INPUT.

DEFINITELY, WE WILL SUMMARIZE THIS AND INCORPORATE THEM.

NOW MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE, HOW INVOLVED DO YOU WANT TO BE AT WORK WITH CITIES WHERE THEY JUST LOOK AT THE POWER OF PRODUCT AND THEY'VE DONE SOME, THIS ONE P&Z THAT I'M WORKING WITH, UNC AMENDMENTS.

THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO GO PAGE BY PAGE.

HAVING SIX WORK SESSIONS WITH THEM AND THEY STARTED THE FIRST ONE LAST WEEK, A DOCUMENT IS 450 PAGES.

THEY WERE AT PAGE 27 AND IT TOOK THEM AN HOUR-AND-A-HALF.

I WOULD WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU TO KNOW WHAT I COULD EXPECT.

WE'LL DO WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU BUT THAT IS HOW INVOLVED IT CAN GET OR NOT.

I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH STAFF AND I KNOW THAT STAFF WILL GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE PAGE THAT WE MAKE, THAT RED LINE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEEK SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL AND SEE WHICH WAY YOU WANT TO GO.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT PART OF THIS PROCESS IS TO SOCIALIZE US.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS, BUT THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPERS AND STAFF AND FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.

THIS IS LIKE, HEY, WE'RE AT 85 PERCENT AND WE INTEND TO BRING THIS BACK.

HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AT HOME OR AT WORK OR WHATEVER, AND NOW FILE THROUGH IT.

IF THERE'S ISSUES THAT POP UP, COME TELL US AND WE CAN DO ANOTHER WORKSHOP, AND A COUNCIL MEETING, SO REPUBLICIZE THIS, GET SOME WORK TO DO, SO WE'RE NOT DONE.

BUT, AGAIN, YOU CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHATEVER BUT MY POINT IS TAKE THIS DOCUMENT.

IF YOU SEE STUFF THAT DOESN'T WORK, COME TELL US SO WE CAN FIX IT AND THEN ADDRESS IT IN THE NEXT MEETING, AND MOVE THIS FORWARD.

BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO END THIS WITH, WELL, WE REVIEWED THE LAND DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE LET'S EXECUTE THIS SO WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE NEXT DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THE NEXT DEVELOPERS FOR THE CURRENT STAFF, 50 PERCENT.

>> THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING IS NOW HOW EACH ONE OF US SHOULD GO HOME OR GO WHEREVER, IF YOU DIVE INTO IT.

I MADE A MISTAKE AND I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO ADMIT THE LDC.

I DID NOT READ IT FROM THE FIRST CRITICAL EXPERIENCE.

I RELIED ON STAFF.

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I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY FOR THE NEXT TWO OR FOUR WEEKS, READ IT, WRITE IT DOWN.

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT'S AWKWARD, FORWARD TO ONE FOCAL POINT, WHETHER IT'D BE CHRIS AND LINDSEY.

THEY CAN FORMULATE IT AND SEE WHERE THE COMMON TALKING POINTS AND MAYBE SOME PEOPLE HIT ON AND DEVELOPERS AS WELL.

WE ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU ALL BEEN HERE.

THEN MAYBE FROM THAT FORMULATE A CHART OR A SPREADSHEET OR SOMETHING, AND MAYBE THAT'S BE NEXT MEETING.

YOU'RE, OKAY, THIS WILL HEARTBREAK US.

HERE'S A PITFALL THAT WE REVIEWED.

LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. LETS SEE IF THERE'S COMMON GROUND INTO A BETTER SOLUTION OR THAT MAYBE WHAT WE NEED IS WHAT WAS ON PAPER.

JUST WE CAN DISCUSS IT IN ANOTHER MEETING.

THAT GIVES US STEP CLOSER TO PRESENTING.

THEN I'LL LIKE TO SEE A TOWN HALL AT LEAST OFFERED LIKE THE RESIDENCY AND OTHER DEVELOPERS.

FUTURE DEVELOPERS CAN LOOK AT IT, SIT AND LISTEN TO AN OVERVIEW AND THEN START THE ADOPTION PROCESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>>IT DOES, AND I THINK THE RED LINE VERSION IS IMPORTANT SO THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO TRACK CHANGES.

THAT'S WHY WE ALWAYS DO THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU JUST GIVE ME THE CLEAN COPY, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S CHANGED.

THAT'S A GREAT PROCESS.

IF YOU START READING, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT FIRST.

I THINK THAT HELPS YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE MAJOR ISSUES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.

THEN IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GO DOWN, THE BUFFER HAS BEEN INCREASED FROM WHAT TO WHAT, YOU CAN JUST GO TO THAT SECTION AND THEN SEE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

BUT THE RED LINE VERSION, I THINK HOPEFULLY WILL HELP YOU, SIR.

>>THESE ARE AUTHENTITIVE PLAN WHICH BRING IT BACK IN JANUARY TO PUBLIC, AND SO IF WE OPEN ANOTHER WORKSHOP, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THEN WE CAN MAY BE IN SAY, FEBRUARY TRY TO GO FINAL.

WE'LL HAVE HAD THREE MONTHS TO ADDRESS OR WORKOUT OR DISCUSS OR WHATEVER WE THINK THE ISSUE WOULD CHANGE.

IF YOU GUYS AGREE TO INCUR.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> I DON'T AGREE.

[OVERLAPPING] MY WHOLE COMMENT IN THE BEGINNING WAS, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT NUTS AND BOLTS, LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED IN LAST TIME.

I FELT LAST TIME IT WAS A FELL SWOOP AND HERE IT IS.

THAT'S WHY I SAID I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER GOING THROUGH.

I UNDERSTAND YOU PUT IN RED LINES, YOU CAN PUT IN DIAGNOSTICS IN YOUR REPORT TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE REASONING IS BEHIND IT.

BUT THE WAY WE DID THE LIVABLE CENTER STUDY, THE DOWNTOWN STUDY, I THOUGHT WAS A LOT BETTER BECAUSE THE MEETINGS WERE SCHEDULED. IT WAS ON US.

IF WE WEREN'T THERE, THEN THEY WENT INTO DETAIL ON THOSE MEETINGS BUT THAT WAS REALLY MAKING THE SAUSAGE, SO TO SPEAK.

IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT, YOU WERE IN THOSE MEETINGS BEFORE IT CAME TO COUNSEL OR TO P&Z.

I FEEL LIKE JANUARY, WE'RE GOING INTO THE HOLIDAYS AND THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS, AND NEW YEAR, AND THEN IT'S JANUARY AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ADOPT IT IN FEBRUARY.. LIKE I SAID, I'M IN THE MINORITY HERE, I'M PRETTY SURE, BUT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US REALLY MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT AND NOT TRY TO RUSH THIS THROUGH ON AN ARTIFICIAL TIMETABLE.

THAT'S REALLY MY TAKE ON IT.

I RESPECT WHAT BAKER LAWSON BRINGS TO THE TABLE AND THEIR COMMENTS AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION ON SOME OF THAT'S RED LINED.

I UNDERSTAND THEIR POSITION, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER, FROM CITY STAFF AND FROM P&Z BECAUSE I REALLY THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

THAT'S REALLY MY MY POSITION ON IT, BUT I'LL DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.

>> WE'RE NOT UNDER ARTIFICIAL TITLE.

I'M JUST PROPOSING HOW WE MOVE THIS FORWARD SO THAT SOCIALIZE IT APPROPRIATELY.

SO WHETHER AS THEY INDICATE IF WE NEED TO DO SCHEDULE 3 PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AND CHUNKING INTO 3'S, WE'LL DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK FOR A PATH FORWARD.

AGAIN,WE'RE JUST TELLING YOU WHERE WE'RE AT, THE 80-ISH PECENTILE OF WORKING THROUGH THE WORKING GROUPS.

WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU PUBLICLY SO WE CAN LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE.

THEN AGAIN, HOW DO WE FINISH THIS OFF SO THAT YOU GUYS AND GIRLS WILL FEEL THAT THIS HAS BEEN APPROPRIATELY SOCIALIZED.

WE'RE NOT RUSHING IT.

[01:35:01]

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WAS THIS WHAT YOU WORKED ON, WAS THIS FROM EXISTING LDC THAT YOU JUST REDLINED AND ARTIFICIAL CHANGE OR IF YOU CREATE [INAUDIBLE]

>> I WAS TRYING TO READ IT YESTERDAY, IS THIS AN ENTIRELY NEW DOCUMENT OR ARE YOU TAKING THE EXISTING DOCUMENT AND REDLINING AND MAKING NOTATIONS ABOUT CHANGES BASICALLY?

>> IT'S A CONSOLIDATION.

[INAUDIBLE] WE TOOK THE THREE DOCUMENTS BASICALLY: LDC, THE ZONING CODE, AND THE SIGNAGE SECTION.

THERE WERE THREE SEPARATE CHAPTERS IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND THAT'S WHERE THE DISCREPANCIES WERE, BECAUSE EACH OF THEM HAD BEEN ADOPTED IN A DIFFERENT YEAR AND DIDN'T MATCH.

THEN WE TRIED TO COMBINE THEM AND COME UP WITH THIS ONE CHAPTER OUTLINE THAT COVERED EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THOSE THREE DOCUMENTS BUT IN A MORE COMPREHENSIBLE MANNER.

IT'S LIKE UNIFYING THE DEVELOPMENT CODES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED MORE CHANGES AND MORE DISCUSSION.

WE STARTED OFF WITH FINDING THE DISCREPANCIES, CONSOLIDATING THEM, AND THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE SOME STANDARDS HAVE BEEN ADDED JUST BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND THEN THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY OF ONE STANDARD OVER THE OTHER.

WE JUST WENT WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED.

WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT.

DO YOU CALL IT CHAPTER 22 ZONING, INCORPORATE EVERYTHING INTO THERE AND JUST LEAVE IT OR YOU CREATE A NEW CHAPTER, AND CALL IT WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT CODES? BUT IT WILL BE A COMBINATION AND THEN ALL THESE WILL BE REPEALED.

WHEN YOU CROSS IT UP, IT'S GOING TO BE REPEALED BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A NEW SECTION THAT DEALS WITH IT.

IT'S A COMBINATION, BUT THE ASSIGNMENT WAS NOT TO COME UP WITH AN ENTIRE NEW SET OF REGULATIONS.

>> I WAS SEEING THE SIMILARITIES, SO I WASN'T SURE WHAT TO GO WITH.

BUT I AGREE WITH JOHN, WHAT HE SAID THAT THE OTHER ONE FELT RUSHED WHEN THEY APPROVED THE EXISTING SUGAR LAND 1.

JANUARY TO ME IS TOO SOON BECAUSE OF HOLIDAY SEASON, WHO'S GOING TO SIT DOWN AND READ 320 PAGES OF THIS PRODUCT.

I DON'T SEE THE HURRY IN MY MIND OR IS IT JUST ME?

>> I'M MORE OF THE SAME MINDSET.

I'M TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE THOUGH THEN I'D LIKE FOR US TO MOVE THINGS ALONG.

HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE SIGNING OFF ON.

I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN WE DID THE LDC.

I REMEMBER WE HAD ONE MEETING OR TWO.

THEY PRESENTED TO US AND TOLD US HOW WONDERFUL IT WAS, THAT WAS ALL WE COULD DO.

[LAUGHTER] IT WAS A LUNCH SHORT MEETING, AS LONG AS 45 MINUTES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I JUST THINK I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION, THAT'S ALL.

I DO THINK WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN FRONT OF US RIGHT ON THAT SCREEN, I THINK IT'S PAGE 76, IS A GOOD START THOUGH, IS DIRECTION, I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN HERE WOULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH WE'RE GOING AND WOULD BE USEFUL.

I THINK THAT BALL HAS BEEN MOVED ALONG, PLUS HAS A CONCEPT.

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, AN INTEGRATED CONCEPT OF INTEGRATING THESE THREE SECTIONS.

WHEREAS AT LEAST IN MY TIME IN 2018, THAT WAS JUST ALMOST A SUPPLEMENT TO WHAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT RUSHING THROUGH THINGS.

YOU'VE ALREADY HAD FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY IN THAT, THIS HAS TO BE ANGLED AND THIS IS NOT TO BE [INAUDIBLE].

THESE ARE IDEAS THAT ALREADY FURTHER ALONG THAN THE LAST TIME WE WERE IN THERE.

SO I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD TAKE AS LONG, BUT I STILL THINK WE SHOULD INVEST SOME TIME IN IT.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT.

>> CHRIS, I THINK YOU HAVE SOME DIRECTION NOW.

MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE SAID IN THE CORRECT WAY, WE SHOULD MEET AS OFTEN AS WE NEED TILL WE GET IT RIGHT, NOT JUST ONE MORE WORKSHOP.

IF WE WANT TO BREAK THIS DOCUMENT UP INTO THIRDS AND MAYBE JUST SPREAD OVER A FEW MONTH WINDOW, WE'D COME TASK EVERYBODY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK AND OKAY,

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SOME MAYBE SHORTER THAN OTHERS, WE CAN SHOOT FROM THAT.

>> MICHELLE'S HERE, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE SO WE COULD GET TRAVELS [LAUGHTER].

WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A SCHEDULE AND WE'LL TALK WITH THE GUN TO COOPERATION AND COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WE ALL CAN AGREE ON AGAIN, PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY FOR CAREFUL CONSIDERATION AND A METHODICAL PLAN. ABSOLUTELY.

>> I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT I TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT LIES ON THE SHELF.

IT REALLY HURTS [LAUGHTER] HAVING PUT IN SO MUCH EFFORT.

WE WANT IT TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT, SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND GET THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY WANT TO BE.

SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE AS A PLANNING DIRECTOR I HAD COMMISSIONED SO MANY STUDIES, THERE IS NO OTHER BETTER WORD FOR IT, JUST IN AND NOT MOVE FORWARD.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

>> WE THANK YOU. WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING, DOING THE LDC AND WE USED OUR STAFF AND THEY WERE GREAT FOR THEM AND WE WENT WITH THEIR GUIDANCE.

BUT NOW WE HAVE A STEP UP AND A FEW MORE PROFESSIONALS THAT CAN GIVE US A LITTLE GUIDANCE.

WE KNOW THAT LDC HURTS, IT'S HURT US IN MANY WAYS, AND WE'VE HAD BANDAGE RIPPED OFF IN.

A LOT OF WOUNDS OPENED UP, SO THIS WILL GET US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

BY NO MEANS JOHN, I DON'T MEAN FOR US TO RUSH ANYTHING.

I JUST KNOW WE JUST LIKE TRAVIS SAID, WE WANT TO ACT ON IT, MOVE FORWARD, GET IT DONE, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE TO COME.

WE WANT TO BE MORE PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE.

BILL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, WRAP UP ON YOUR END FOR A P&Z.

>> NO, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORKSHOP SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE EDUCATED ON ALL OF OF THIS AND I THINK OUR NEXT STEP IS CLEAR.

>>AWESOME. THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] PEOPLE, I HAD LEARNED A LITTLE BIT OF MY LEARNINGS FROM [INAUDIBLE] WHEN I SAT NEXT TO HIM IN PLANNING AND ZONING BACK IN THE DAY.

I THINK WE'RE IN PART OF THE MEETING THAT EVERYBODY LIKES, IT IS 7:16 AND I WILL ADJOURN US.

[OVERLAPPING]

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.