Jan 25, 2022 City Council

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH OUR CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

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WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL US TO ORDER.

WE'LL HAVE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OFFERED BY OUR MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT AND OUR INVOCATION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE WITH US.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

WOULD YOU BOW WITH ME, PLEASE, AS WE PRAY, LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE FOR US.

LORD, WE KNOW YOU'RE CONSTANTLY CONCERNED FOR US AND WE PRAISE YOU THAT YOU WANT THE BEST FOR YOUR CHILDREN. BOARD HELP US TONIGHT TO DO YOUR BUSINESS DO THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, WE WANT TO ASK YOU TO GIVE US WISE COUNSEL.

IT HELP US TO SERVE YOU AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

WE PRAY FOR THE CITY STAFF.

WE PRAY FOR OUR POLICEMEN, OUR FIREMEN, OUR EMERGENCY PEOPLE OR TO JUST COVER THEM WITH YOUR GRACE AND KEEP THEM SAFE.

FATHER WE THANK YOU FOR YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR US IN CHRIST NAME.

AMEN. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

ONCE AGAIN, THANKS ON BEHALF OF COUNCILMAN MYSELF AND STAFF, ALL OUR BUSINESS TONIGHT.

WE WISH YOU A SAFE TRAVEL HOME AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR CITY BUSINESS AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY.

WE DID HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE PROBABLY A TOPIC END OF DISCUSSION, SO IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON, YOU FEEL FREE TO GO OVER THERE AND FILL OUT A LITTLE SLIP OF PAPER IF YOU DO HAVE AN ITEM TO SPEAK ON.

I'LL CALL YOU UP AT THAT POINT IN THE MEETING.

IF NOT, THEN YOU JUST WANT TO TELL US SOMETHING.

YOU HAVE TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING AS CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNSEL.

[CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL]

MR. SCHAFFER, WE'LL GET TO YOU AT NUMBER 17.

IF YOU'LL JUST WAIT. WE'LL LET YOU DO IT AT 17.

I'LL LIKE TO DO IT NOW, I NEED TO LEAVE. YOU NEED TO LEAVE. OK, SIR.

WELL, GO AHEAD. COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU SIR.

I DO HAVE THREE. WELCOME TO 2022. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN A WHILE.

TRUST ME IT'S NO FUN.

THANK YOU.

I'M TALKING ON ITEM 17, THE MULBERRY FIELDS, WE'RE GETTING CLOSER THERE, BUT WE STILL HAVE, WE'RE IGNORING THE WOODLANDS.

I MEAN, THE WETLANDS THAT WAS DONE DURING THE BATTERY PROJECT THAT WAS PUT IN, AND IT'S NOT ON ANY OF THE NEW MAPS I'VE JUST LOOKED AT.

SO WE STILL NEED TO LOOK AT WETLANDS AND BE SURE THAT WE DON'T NOT ONLY ENDANGER US, BUT THE BATTERY PROJECT AS WELL AND THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS THEY HAVE NOW PUT IN THE TEXAS NEW MEXICO EASEMENT PROPERLY.

IT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE OFF, BUT I BELIEVE THEY AT LEAST RECOGNIZE IT.

SO WE'RE GETTING THERE.

NO PROBLEM. BUT WE NEED TO REALLY NEED TO LOOK INTO THE WETLANDS BECAUSE THAT COULD AFFECT THE BATTERY PROJECTS AS WELL.

THERE'S ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHAT THE DRAWINGS ARE RIGHT THERE OF THE ORIGINAL BATTERY PROJECT WITH THE WETLANDS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LOOKS LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WE HAVE FOR CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS OTHER THAN ITEMS THAT ARE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

I DO SEE ONE MORE [INAUDIBLE].

WE'LL SEE.

MR. [INAUDIBLE] WE'LL GET TO YOU WHEN THAT ORDER COMES UP.

UNLESS YOU NEED TO LEAVE EARLY, WE'LL LET YOU SPEAK NOW OR YOU CAN WAIT, OK.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT FINISHES UP OUR CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN I DID FORGET TO MENTION IN OUR OPENING REMARK, IN MY OPENING REMARKS PLEASE HAVE A SILENT PRAYER FOR ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

HE ENDURED A LOSS THIS PAST WEEK OF ONE OF HIS RELATIVES, ONE OF HIS CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS. SO MARK THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND AND WE'RE WITH YOU GUYS. NEED ANYTHING, HOLLER AT US.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WE'LL MOVE INTO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

[CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS]

OUR FIRST ONE IS OUR PRESENTATION OF EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS.

[INAUDIBLE] IS GOING TO COME UP AND DO THAT ONE OR NO WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OFF.

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BECKER, I ASK HIM IF YOU ALL WANTED TO BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT OR SO FOR SO MUCH THAT SHE DOES FOR US. HE TOLD ME I COULDN'T DO THAT, THOUGH.

DR. BECKER SUCH A BIG SUPPORTER OF OUR ANIMAL SERVICES.

SHE DOES SO MUCH FOR US.

JUST IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, SHE'S HELPED US WHEN SOME OTHER PLANS HAD FALLEN THROUGH THAT WE HAD 16 OR 17 ANIMALS THAT NEEDED EITHER HEALTH CERTIFICATES OR SPAY OR NEUTERS, OR IN ORDER TO GET THEM ON A TRANSPORT TO GO TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.

SO EVEN WITH HER BROKEN JAW AND EVERYTHING, SHE CAME UP AND SHE DID ALL OF THAT FOR US JUST THIS PAST WEEK AND A HALF OR TWO WEEKS, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT SHE SPENDS SO MUCH TIME HELPING US.

EVEN ON [INAUDIBLE] FIFTH BIRTHDAY, WE HAD A DOG THAT GOT HIT BY A CAR AND WE CALLED HER UP AND SHE WAS GETTING READY FOR HER BIRTHDAY, AND SHE CAME UP TO THE CLINIC AND MET US THERE AND TOOK CARE OF THE DOG.

IT WAS [INAUDIBLE] FIFTH BIRTHDAY, SO NONE THE LESS THE DOG'S NAME WAS CINCO, SO SHE EVEN KEPT CINCO THERE UNTIL HE COULD FIND A GOOD HOME THAT WOULD HELP HIM RECOVER AND TAKE CARE OF HIM. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT SHE'S THERE AT THE END OF EVERY PHONE CALL THAT I'VE EVER CALLED HER FOR, WHETHER IT BE ON THE WEEKEND BECAUSE THE DOG HAS COME IN AND I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT TO DO OR ON WEEKNIGHTS WHEN I SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS DOG OR THIS CAT AND IT'S GOT THESE SYMPTOMS, WHAT DO I DO? SHE'S ALWAYS THERE FOR US.

I'VE SEEN HER CRY, HAPPY TEARS WITH US WHEN THINGS GO THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO GO.

AND I'VE SEEN SO MANY SAD TEARS, TOO, WHEN THINGS DON'T TURN OUT THE WAY WE HOPE FOR IT TO. SHE ALSO HELPS OUR STAFF TO GROW.

THEY COME AND THEY TEACH US EVERYTHING FROM HOW TO DO SHOTS, TO DO [INAUDIBLE] TESTS, TO LOOK AT AT PARASITES UNDER MICROSCOPES.

IT'S JUST WHATEVER WE NEED.

SHE'S ALWAYS THERE AND WE CAN'T THANK HER ENOUGH.

UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW TO SAY WHAT I WANT TO SAY, BUT SHE ADOPTS SOME OF OUR ANIMALS AT HER CLINIC.

WHEN SHE FIRST OPENED, WE HAD A CAT BY THE NAME OF HOPE AND HOPE, WENT AND LIVED AT DR.

BECKER'S ANIMAL HOSPITAL FOR ALMOST A YEAR, PROBABLY OR MORE UNTIL SHE COULD FIND A GOOD HOME FOR HER.

OH, SHE'S STILL THERE, [INAUDIBLE], AND ALL THE OTHERS HAVE GONE.

THEY'RE STILL THERE, TOO. [LAUGHTER] WE TOLD HER HOW GREAT HOPE WAS AND EVERYTHING, AND THE NEXT THING WE KNOW SHE'S SENDING US A PICTURE OF HOPE ON A DOOR ON THE TOP OF A DOOR LOOKING OVER. SO WE JUST WANT TO PRESENT THIS APPRECIATION TO YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR US AND FOR THE CITY AND THE SUPPORT THAT YOU GIVE US AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER ALL THE TIME.

[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU, [INAUDIBLE]. OH, BRING THE FAMILY UP.

YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] SO WHEN STAFF CAME TO US, I THINK, A YEAR OR SO AGO AND SAID THEY WANT TO PUT A EVENT ON OUR, ON OUR STAFF.

WE WERE ALWAYS KIND OF TAKEN ABACK BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THE CITIES DID THAT AND WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE AND BLESSED DR.

BECKER, TO HAVE YOU. WE'VE HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT YOU, THE THINGS YOU'VE DONE TO GET OUR SHELTER WHERE IT IS TODAY.

I MEAN, IT'S ALSO WITH THE EFFORTS OF THE STAFF OVER THERE WITH YOUR GUIDANCE AND SOME OF YOUR EXPERTISE.

WE UNDERSTAND WE ARE COMING UP IN THE WORLD OF ANIMAL CONTROL AND OUR AREA OVER THERE.

SO ONCE AGAIN ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE SAME THING, I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, MAYOR TRUMPS ME, OF COURSE, BUT IT REALLY SAYS A LOT TO WHAT WHAT THE STAFF AND NOT ONLY YOU, BUT EVERYONE AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL HAS BEEN DOING BECAUSE IT'S NOTICED BY THE OTHER SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND THEY ALL WANT A PART OF IT.

SO IT SAYS WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON IN THAT LOCATION AND IT ALL STARTS WITH EVERYONE THERE, INCLUDING YOURSELF.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO AND THE HARD WORK YOU PUT IN.

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ALL RIGHT. THAT MOVES ON.

THAT'S IT FOR EMPLOYEE, RIGHT? CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS ANYBODY.

MOVING ON TO PRESENTATION OF HEART OF CHRISTMAS AWARDS, THAT MAY BE WHERE A FEW OF THE FOLKS ARE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT, BUT I'VE BEEN GIVEN A LITTLE SCRIPT, SO I'LL MAKE SURE I DRESS IT PROPERLY. AND THIS WAS AN AMAZING EVENT.

ONCE AGAIN, OUR STAFF DOES A WONDERFUL JOB.

AND FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU TO ALL THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE THIRD ANNUAL HEART OF ANGLETON HEART OF CHRISTMAS COOK OFF, WHICH BENEFITED [INAUDIBLE] THIS YEAR. AS YOU KNOW, THE STAFF FIGURES OUT WHAT NONPROFIT WE WANT TO SUPPORT THIS YEAR THROUGH THE FUNDING THAT OR THE REVENUE, IF YOU WILL, THAT COMES FROM THE COOK.

ALSO THIS YEAR, THEY SELECTED [INAUDIBLE].

WE HAD A GREAT WEEKEND.

THE WEATHER WAS AMAZING.

WE HAD GREAT FOOD.

THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT.

IT WAS VERY EVIDENT.

I THINK THE TREE WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE NIGHT, SO THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING.

THANK YOU ALL STAFF FOR DOING THAT AND WE HOPE EVERYBODY ENJOYED IT.

JUST AS MUCH AS ALL OF US THAT WE'RE ON COUNCIL AND STAFF THAT WERE THERE WITH OUR FAMILIES. WE DID DO IN 2018.

WE DECIDED TO ADD THE COOK OFF.

OF COURSE, LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT WE DID HAVE SOME OF THOSE TEAMS THAT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE THERE THROUGH THE VOTING THAT WAS DONE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THE COMMUNITY CITIZENS GOT TO VOTE IN TWO CATEGORIES.

THE FIRST ONE WAS A CROWD FAVORITE FOR FOOD AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS CHRISTMAS SPIRIT FOR THEIR DECOR. AND SO THIS YEAR WE'RE HONORED TO ANNOUNCE THE 2021 HEART OF CHRISTMAS CROWD FAVORITE, WHICH WE HAVE A LITTLE TROPHY HERE FOR THREE LITTLE PIGS SMOKERS.

ARE THEY HERE TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT, COME ON UP.

[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. YOU GET A TROPHY, PHOTO OP.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. YES, SIR, THANK YOU.

YES. THANK YOU. [CLAPPING] THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I'LL JUST STAND UP FRONT.

WE'LL GET IT BEHIND YOU GUYS.

TAKE A PHOTO.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING. HOPE TO SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

KEEP WINNING THOSE AWARDS. THANK YOU.

AND OUR SPIRIT CHRISTMAS SPIRIT AWARD GOES TO NOT YOUR AVERAGE COOKERS.

ALL RIGHT, COME ON UP. [APPLAUSE] RETURNING OR YOUR FIRST YEAR? OH, RETURNING.

AWESOME, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.

APPRECIATE IT. GOOD. THERE YOU GO.

ONCE AGAIN TO STAND UP FRONT.

WE'LL TAKE A PHOTO OP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[APPLAUSE] AND OF COURSE, IT'S ALWAYS THE FUN PART IS THE RECIPIENT OF THE PROCEEDS FOR OUR 2021 COOK-OFF, WHICH WAS CHOSEN ONCE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID THROUGH THE EMPLOYEES, THEY WERE SURVEYED. AND SO THIS YEAR [INAUDIBLE] WAS CHOSEN, WHICH IS THE [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY ASSOCIATION FOR CHILDREN'S REHABILITATION, AND [INAUDIBLE] IS A NONPROFIT AGENCY THAT SERVES, ADVOCATES AND EQUIPS CHILDREN AND FAMILIES LIVING WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS AND DISABILITIES. AND WE WOULD LOVE TO PRESENT THIS CHECK FOR FOUR THOUSAND AND SEVENTY DOLLARS TO BENEFIT THE CHILDREN THAT WE SERVE.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU SO MUCH, WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT, SO THAT DOES IT FOR OUR CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CONTRACT WITH [INAUDIBLE] FIBER TO ENGINEER, CONSTRUCT AND MAINTAIN DART FIBER TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

NUMBER FIVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE BRAZORIA COUNTY ESD NUMBER THREE FOR FIRE PROTECTION, FIRE SUPPRESSION AND RESCUE SERVICES.

EXCUSE ME, NUMBER SIX DISCUSSING THEIR POSSIBLE ACTION ON INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF RICHWOOD FOR ANIMAL SERVICES.

NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE ADOPTING, A POLICY FOR NAMING RIGHTS

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AND ADOPTING A PARKS MEMORIAL POLICY.

AMENDING CHAPTER 17 PARKS AND RECREATION OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR PENALTY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

AND NO. EIGHT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROPOSAL FROM JL SOLUTIONS MECHANICAL LLC FOR THE CITY HALL H.

[INAUDIBLE] UNITS.

COUNCIL. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE COULD ADOPT A CONSENT AGENDA.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

I'LL HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

TO ADOPT ALL CONSENT ITEMS AS PRESENTED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

JUST WANT TO SAY IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE WE DISCUSSED A WHILE AGO THAT THE CITY OF RICHWOOD WILL BE CONTRACTING WITH US ON ANIMAL SERVICES BECAUSE OF THE GREAT WORK WE'VE DONE. OVER THERE.

YES, SIR. DULY NOTED, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THANK YOU, STAFF, WE KNOW THAT'S ADDITIONAL WORK, BUT WE SEE THE BENEFIT OF HELPING OUR FOUR LEGGED CREATURES TO THE SOUTH OF US.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE POSTS SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[9. Update on the City wide quiet zone.]

I'LL TOSS IT TO YOU BEFORE I GUESS WE TOSS IT OVER.

BUT I THINK IT HEARD JOHN [INAUDIBLE] A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

WE WORKED ON THIS STARTING IN 2008, WHEN WE I CAN ACTUALLY SAY WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED, IT'S COUNCILMAN. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO TRY TO DO FOR THE CITY IS GET A QUIET ZONE AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL.

IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, OVER THE LAST NINE TO 10 DAYS, WE'VE HAD A SLIGHT CHANGE WHICH CAUSED THE QUITE A BIT OF A DISCUSSION AMONG FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS OVER ALONG THE TRACKS AND THEN OF COURSE, THROUGH ME, THROUGH FACEBOOK AND THROUGH MESSENGER AND WHATNOT.

SO I KIND OF WANT TO HEAR WHERE WE'RE AT SO WE CAN LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE MOVING IN AND MAKING SURE THAT WE AS A CITY CAN DO WHAT WE CAN DO, POSSIBLY TO GET THE QUIET ZONE PLACE BACK IN ORDER.

SO, CHRIS, I'LL TOSS IT OVER TO YOU.

YEAH. SO AS ARE REPORTED TO YOU ALL, WE KIND OF GOT THE RUG PULLED OUT FROM UNDER US.

YEAH. AND WE GOT NOTIFIED.

WE HAD DEFICIENCIES, BUT WE DIDN'T.

WE WEREN'T TOLD WE WERE GOING TO GET FOR SURE DECERTIFIED AND THE, SO THERE'S A SHORT, MEDIUM AND LONG TERM PROCESS WE HAVE TO DO.

THE SHORT TERM IS WE'VE ALREADY ORDERED SIGNS AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE SIGNS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY REQUESTED.

THERE'S THINGS LIKE THE MEDIANS IN THE TXDOT RIGHT AWAY OR ON COUNTY ROADS THAT OR IN THE RAIL ASSOCIATION RIGHT AWAY THAT WE ALL HAVE TO GET PERMITS FOR TO DO THAT.

SO INCLUDING [INAUDIBLE], WHICH IS GOING TO BE REHABBED BY TXDOT IN THE SUMMER.

THEY ALREADY SAID THAT? YEP. SO THAT'S THEY'RE GOING TO LET THE CONTRACT IN APRIL, AND THAT'S FIVE TWENTY THREE DOWN THROUGH THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON [INAUDIBLE].

BUT WE ASKED, WE ASKED THEM LIKE, HEY, CAN WE? UH, YOU KNOW, GET A WAIVER UNTIL THIS GETS DONE, BECAUSE WE HATE TO SPEND MONEY TO FIX THIS AND THEN HAVE TXDOT COME IN AND RE-FIX IT, AND THEY SAID NO, SO.

AND THEN THE LONGER PART AGAIN, JOHN PETERSON KIND OF GO INTO MORE DETAIL IS WE HAVE TO RECERTIFY. AND SO IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF DOING THE FIXES AND SAYING, COME DOWN AND RESPECT US. THERE'S OTHER STEPS LIKE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TO UPDATE FROM 2008.

BUT BASICALLY, THEY CAME TO US ASKING FOR THE DOCUMENTATION AND CERTIFICATION LIKE, HEY, WHERE'S THAT? SO BAKER LAWSON GAVE US SOME DOCUMENTS WHICH WE'RE FORWARDING, DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO MEET WHAT THEY WANT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALMOST STARTING FROM THE SCRATCH FROM SCRATCH, SAYING, WELL, WE WANT YOU TO JUMP THROUGH ALL THESE HOOPS TO CERTIFY SO IT'S NOT GOING TO END TOMORROW.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ORDERED SIGNS AND THEY SHOULD BE IN WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK AND THEY'LL GET INSTALLED.

SOME OF THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT KEEP GETTING KNOCKED DOWN, ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS APIECE, WE'LL GET PUT UP AND WE'LL EXTEND THEM TO THE NOW 60 FEET INSTEAD OF THE FIFTY SEVEN FEET WHICH WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER SINCE 2008.

SO WE WILL DO ALL THOSE THINGS WITHIN OUR POWER.

WE WILL SUBMIT FOR PERMITS TO GET OTHER THINGS DONE AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL SPEND MONEY TO DO

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YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT HERE, THE TXDOT LETTING A CONTRACT FOR THIS RIGHT HERE TO FIX THAT.

AND BUT WE STILL WE WILL STILL SUPPLY THE GUARDS AND EVERYTHING ON THAT LOCATION, CORRECT? YEAH. WE'LL STILL HAVE TO FIX THE BARS WHEN THEY GET KNOCKED DOWN AND THE SIGNS AND ALL THAT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO.

TXDOT OVERALL PLAN IS TO RESURFACE FROM FIVE TWENTY THREE DOWN THROUGH THE RAILROAD TRACKS, RIGHT? AND SO WE STARTED DIGGING IN THIS ISSUE.

WE SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE VALIDATE WITH TXDOT, THAT'S STILL THE PLAN.

AND THEN WE WENT IN AND ASKED FOR A WAIVER TO SAY.

YOU KNOW, CAN WE JUST GET SIX MONTHS WAIVER UNTIL YOU GUYS DO THE WORK AND THAT WAY WE'RE NOT DOING IT TWICE OR DOING IT AND THEN HAVING IT TORN UP? SO JOHN, WHAT IS IT THAT IS WRONG WITH THAT INTERSECTION THAT WOULD BE IN RELATION TO THAT TXDOT WOULD FIX WHAT MONEY ARE THEY GOING TO SPEND THAT FIXES THAT LOCATION? WELL, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF CURVES.

THERE IS THE REGULAR CONCRETE CURBS BY THE ACTUAL CROSSING ARMS. THEN THERE'S THE MOUNTABLE CURBS, THAT ARE THE RUBBER CURBS THAT ARE ANCHORED INTO THE GROUND THAT HAVE THE PLACARDS UP ON YES.

OK, SO WHAT TXDOT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS WHEN THEY RESURFACE EVERYTHING, THEY'LL PULL THE MOUNTABLE RUBBER CURBS THE PLACARDS UP AND THEY'LL HAVE TO SET THEM BACK DOWN AGAIN. AND I'VE COORDINATED WITH TXDOT.

THEY ARE PLANNING ON DOING THAT.

THAT IS A PART OF OF.

THEIR PROJECT IS TO DO THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS AND AGAIN, I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW IT'S NOTHING THAT STAFF DID.

THE STAFF KEPT THIS UP AS IT WAS PERMITTED IN 2008 AND APPROVED AND HAS GONE BACK AND KEPT MAINTENANCE UP. SO THE STAFF.

IT'S NOTHING THAT THE CITY DID.

THIS GUY CAME BACK OUT, HE MEASURED, FOUND SOME DEFICIENCIES.

STAFF, IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE FAIR.

IT WAS IN OCTOBER WHEN IT CAME.

PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES HAVE FUN AND RUN OVER THOSE PLACARDS AND BUST THEM UP.

SO HE CAME AND LOOKED AT THAT RIGHT.

AFTER ALL THAT, THERE WERE SOME DEFICIENCIES CALLED JEFF.

THEY WERE FIXED THAT DAY.

SO THE QUIET ZONE WAS BACK TO WHERE IT WAS BEFOREHAND, THE WAY IT WAS PERMITTED.

AFTER THAT, HE WANTED TO TALK TO ME ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS ESTABLISHED.

THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

WE GAVE THEM THE INFORMATION HE WANTED TO COME IN AND HAVE A FIELD VISIT.

AT THAT TIME, HE GOT SICK.

THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FRA, THE FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION AND THE [INAUDIBLE] GUY GOT SICK AFTER THAT. SO FROM OCTOBER, IT WAS JUST DELAYED, DELAYED, DELAYED UNTIL JANUARY. JANUARY, WE WENT OUT THERE ON THE 12TH.

WE WENT OUT THERE AND HE SAID, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG.

THIS HERE, THIS HERE.

THIS IS THREE FOOT SHORT.

IT'S BEEN PERMANENT THAT WAY, BUT IT'S THREE FOOT SHORT NOW.

YOU'RE OUT OF OUT OF COMPLIANCE OR THIS SONG HAS CHANGED COLOR.

WE'VE CHANGED IT INTERNALLY TO WEAR THIS COLOR NEEDS TO BE.

SO WE'RE GETTING ALL THAT STUFF DONE.

WE'RE MEASURING STUFF OUT.

STAFF'S ALREADY PUT IN THE SIGNS.

THE SIGNS SHOULD BE IN THIS FRIDAY, HOPEFULLY BE INSTALLED BY THE END OF NEXT FRIDAY.

SO THAT'S THE INTERN.

THE INTERIM, I MEAN, THE IMMEDIATE IS LET'S GET IT BACK UP TO WHERE IT WAS OR WHAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED IS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

I PUT SOME EXHIBITS TOGETHER.

IT'S IN YOUR POCKET. IT'S LISTED EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. I SENT THAT TO THE FRA AND TO THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD.

THEY AGREED THAT THAT WAS WHAT WAS AGREED TO AND THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THESE QUIET ZONES. SO THEY'VE AGREED TO THAT.

I'VE TALKED WITH TXDOT GOT EVERYTHING TAKEN CARE OF TXDOT.

THERE IS A UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD EMPLOYEE THAT DOES THE SAFETY AT THE CROSSINGS WHEN CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON.

I'VE COORDINATED WITH HIM.

HE'S GOING TO VOLUNTEER HIS TIME OR HELP THE CITY TO SAVE THE CITY ABOUT TWENTY FIVE TO FIVE THOUSAND OR TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED TO FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY BY DOING THE SAFETY AND THE INSPECTION AND MAKING SURE CREWS WHEN THEY'RE IN THAT 20 FOOT ZONE, 25 FOOT ZONE. SO I'VE GOT THAT LINED OUT TOO.

TXDOT HAS AGREED TO ALLOW US TO PUT CHANNEL MARKERS ON TOP OF THEIR CURBS OR CONCRETE CURBS ON 288.

THEY WANTED US. THE RAILROAD WANTED US TO RUN IT ON THE INSIDE OF THAT WITH THE MOUNTABLE CURBS, WHICH WOULD MEAN WE'D BE NARROWING THE LANES, WHICH WOULD SEND ALL KINDS OF PERMITTING AND STUFF. WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH TXDOT TO NARROW THEIR LANE.

AND SO I'VE GOT EVERYBODY TO AGREE TO THAT.

SO I MEAN, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK.

WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING LINED UP TO WHERE WE CAN GET THAT DONE.

NOW, IN OUR MEETING LAST WEEK, HE WENT AND PULLED OUT SOME MORE INFORMATION AND SAID WE NEED TO RESUBMIT AN AFFIRMATION LETTER WHERE WE NEED TO GET NEW TRAFFIC COUNTS ON THE

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OK. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A PROPOSAL TO PUT THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER AND TO PUT AN INVENTORY OF WHAT'S EXISTING OUT THERE, PLUS ALL THE NEW SIGNS WHEN THEY GET SET UP TO WHERE THIS IS THE NEW QUIET ZONE.

THESE ARE THE SAFETY MEASURES THAT ARE OUT HERE, AND THESE ARE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET CREDIT FOR NOW.

WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2008, IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE REALIZED THAT WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED, THERE WAS A NOTE IN THERE THAT SAID IF THE CROSSINGS, IF VEHICULAR CROSSINGS GET GOING, INCREASE THAT POTENTIALLY THE SAFETY MEASURES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THAT PLAN MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO HAVE A QUIET ZONE AND MAY HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED OR DO SOMETHING.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS UNTIL WE DO THESE, THESE COUNTS THAT ARE COMING UP.

SO WE'RE PUTTING I'VE GOT THE COUNT, THE COST FOR HAVING SOMEBODY COME OUT AND PUT UP THE SENSORS TO DO THE COUNTS, THE CROSSINGS.

SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE INTERN IS THAT IS GETTING THAT AFFIRMATION LETTER THE INVENTORY INTO THEM, GET EVERYTHING TO THEM ON THAT, THEN THE LONG TERM DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF COST THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON.

JEFF, I BELIEVE YOU DID SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.

IT WAS LIKE. THIRTY FIVE, FORTY THOUSAND OF THOSE PLACARDS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RUNNING.

[INAUDIBLE] THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE HAVE CHANGED OUT [INAUDIBLE] THE RAILROAD MARKING. [INAUDIBLE].

NINE THOUSAND GETTING ALL THAT REPAINTED.

BEFORE BACK IN THE [INAUDIBLE] WE BEEN SPENT A LOT OF MONEY [INAUDIBLE]. AND THE CITY'S DONE A GREAT JOB ON IT AGAIN, IT'S A MOVING TARGET, SO IT MOVED ON, Y'ALL.

WHAT WAS THAT ADOPTED? I MEAN, WHEN DID THAT CHANGED? DO YOU KNOW? I WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHEN ALL THE YARDSTICKS GOT MOVED ON US.

I, MY PERSONAL OPINION, I HAVE NO BACKGROUND ON IT.

NO ANYTHING.

IS THE GUY THAT DID THE INITIAL INSPECTION WAS THAT'S A CLOSE ENOUGH GUY THAT'S AT FIFTY SEVEN FEET, FIFTY EIGHT FEET, THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH VERSUS THIS GUY WENT OUT THERE WITH A TAPE MEASURE AND PULLED IT.

AND YOU'RE AT FIFTY SEVEN AND A HALF FEET, YOU'RE TWO AND A HALF FEET OFF.

IT'S TIME TO SOUND THE HORNS.

IT JUST SEEMS I.

WHY NOW? IF THEY WERE DOING THEIR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS, HOW DO THEY NOT CATCH THAT ANY TIME SOONER? THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE NO.

BUT JOHN WASN'T PART OF IT THAT WE'VE HAD A COUPLE RAIL INCIDENTS WHERE CARS HAVE BUMPED TRAINS. YEAH, THERE'S BEEN.

THIS WHOLE.

RIGHT. IN OUR AREA, YES? YEAH, THERE'S BEEN FOUR, FOUR ACCIDENTS AT THESE CROSSINGS.

NOW WHEN WHEN I SAY FOUR ACCIDENTS, PLEASE REALIZE THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT TRAINS HAVE HIT CARS. WHAT THIS MEANS IS PEOPLE ARE TEXTING ON THEIR PHONE.

THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

FOOT SLIPS OFF THE BRAKES.

THEY SHOOT THROUGH THE GATE, BREAK THE GATE AND HIT THE TRAIN.

CARS, HIT THE TRAIN, NOT THE TRAIN, HIT THE CARS.

AND IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SAFETY MEASURES BECAUSE THEY BROKE THROUGH THE [INAUDIBLE] TO HIT THE TRAIN.

YEAH. BUT THAT'S CONSIDERED AN ACCIDENT ON THEIR CROSSINGS, WHICH THEY'RE TAKING, THAT IS A VERY SERIOUS NO MATTER.

IF WE WERE TO PUT TWO FEET ON THE BACKSIDE, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW. PUT THE CAR IN PARK.

YEAH. SO BUT THE LAST ONE IS IS DUE TO THE COST THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT IS TO ISSUE ANOTHER NOTICE OF INTENT OR A NOTICE OF ESTABLISHMENT INSTEAD OF HAVING THOSE MOUNTABLE CURBS WITH THOSE PLACARDS WHERE PEOPLE RUN OVER THEM AND TEAR THEM UP.

IT'S MAYBE GO BACK WITH A CONCRETE CURB TO WHERE IT'S A PERMANENT FIX, TO WHERE IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE 10 INCHES HIGH.

IT HAS TO BE A MINIMUM OF SIX, BUT BY DOING IT 10 INCHES, IF THE CITY [INAUDIBLE] IT, THEY CAN OVERLAY IT SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE BECAUSE IF IT'S AT FIVE INCHES, FIVE INCHES, FIVE TO SEVEN EIGHT INCH, YOU'RE EIGHTH OF AN INCH SHORTER THAN SIX INCHES.

THEY'LL BLOW THE HORNS. YEAH.

SO THE 10 INCH, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN DETAIL ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE IMMEDIATE IN THE INTERIM.

ANY QUESTIONS, I THINK I WAS PRETTY.

[INAUDIBLE]. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TIMELINE IS, JOHN? YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THE SIGNS, WE'RE DOING SOME OF THE OTHER REMEDIATION.

BUT THE LETTER OF.

THE AFFIRMATION LETTERS.

THE AFFIRMATION LETTER, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PROCESS AND TIMELINE ON THAT IS? I'M HOPING THAT IF WE IF WE ESTABLISH, IF WE GO BACK WITH THE SIGNS AND THE MARKINGS AND

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MAYBE WE CAN START THAT PROCESS EARLIER.

I'M WORKING WITH OUR GUYS AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A PROPOSAL AND A PATH FORWARD WITH THAT AFFIRMATION LETTER BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK.

I GOT TO GET THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND GET EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE MY SUBS TO DO ALL THIS STUFF. BUT DO YOU THINK THAT'S A COUPLE OF WEEKS, LIKE ONCE YOU SUBMIT A LETTER OR. IT MAY BE UP TO A MONTH OR TWO CHRIS, I DON'T KNOW.

THIS IS VERY UNIQUE.

ARE YOU TRYING TO ASK FOR AN ANSWER ON WHEN [INAUDIBLE] IS GOING TO RESPOND? WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO I'M I'M NOT ASKING HIM TO DO THAT.

I'M JUST KIND OF PREPPING EVERYONE THAT THIS IS NOT.

WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT A LETTER AND WE'RE GOING TO GET BECAUSE WE'LL BE A COUPLE WEEKS FROM. NOBODY HAS ANY CONTROL OVER [INAUDIBLE]EXCEPT [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, AND THEY WILL OPERATE IT.

THEY'RE SPEED WHATEVER THAT SPEED IS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO SAY THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR SIGNS, WE'RE GOING TO DO FIXING CURBS. YOU KNOW WE GET PERMITS, WE'RE ALL STUFF AT OUR LEVEL.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW THAT THAT AFFIRMATION LETTER IS GOING TO BE THE KEY AND WE DON'T CONTROL THAT TIMELINE LIKE YOU ARTICULATED.

ONE COMMENT THAT CAME IN AND I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS LIGHTING AT THESE INTERSECTIONS SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM.

SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS ARE DARK.

I AGREE THEY ARE.

SO IF WE'RE PUTTING IN ANY EFFORTS, MAYBE SOME SOLAR LIGHTING OR SOMETHING AROUND THOSE INTERSECTIONS SO THAT THEY'RE CLEARLY VISIBLE THAT NIGHT.

WE CAN WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW.

I'M JUST TRYING TO YES, TRYING TO GET IT TO WHERE THEY DON'T BLOW THE HORNS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S AN EXAMPLE FOR EVERYBODY OF THE THE EXHIBIT THAT I PUT TOGETHER WITH ALL THE NECESSARY STUFF.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S MOSTLY SIGNS AND THE OTHER ONE IS JUST THE EXTENSION OF LIKE [INAUDIBLE]. I MEAN, I WILL SAY THAT WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THAT QUIET ZONE BACK IN 2008 AND THAT INCLUDED THE ABANDONMENT OF TWO CROSSINGS OVER HERE TO BRING US INTO COMPLIANCE BECAUSE RAILROAD WAS PUTTING IN A SECOND LINE AND THEY WANTED US TO HELP OUT.

SO THIS WAS REALLY A MUTUAL THING THAT WE DID TOGETHER WITH THE UNION PACIFIC WHENEVER THEY PUT THE SECOND LINE IN BY CLOSING THOSE OTHER INTERSECTIONS.

SO THEY ONLY HAD LIMITED NUMBER OF CROSSINGS AND THEN WE AGREED TO THE BORING UNDERNEATH THE RAILROADS. WE WOULD WOULD WORK ON THAT AND THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CITY ORDINANCE ON HOW LONG THEY CAN SIT UNDERNEATH OR AT AN INTERSECTION THAT I DON'T DO NOT BELIEVE WE'VE ENFORCED AS MUCH UP UNTIL.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT CHIEF? AND SO IT WAS REALLY A PARTNERSHIP THERE.

SO THREE FEET ON EITHER SIDE ON THAT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT UNION PACIFIC KNOWS GOOD AND WELL THAT THEY WORKED WITH US AS A PARTNERSHIP ON THAT.

WE ABANDON THOSE INTERSECTIONS FOR THEM.

SO THIS IS IMPORTANT.

CONGRESSMAN WEBER, NOTE ABOUT THE LENGTH TRAINS.

AND SO HE SAID HE'D ENGAGE FOR US.

THANKS. AND WE HAVE SENT TWO LETTERS THAT I'VE SIGNED TO UNION PACIFIC IN REGARDS TO THAT, RIGHT? YES, WE HAVE.

TO REMIND THEM ABOUT THE TIME LIMIT SITTING ON THE TRACK, WAITING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. I MEAN, I WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER ON THIS.

I JUST WANT THEM TO WORK WITH US.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS, JOHN. SO DO WE NEED ANYTHING ELSE AS WELL, JUST MORE OF A PRESENT? JUST AN UPDATE, RIGHT? YEP.

OK, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU ALL STAFF FOR JUMPING ON THIS ONE.

I NOTIFIED STAFF AND WHEN I SAW THE SOCIAL MEDIA HITTING THE MARKET, SO TO SPEAK.

STAFF WAS ON IT QUITE QUICKLY.

AND JUST TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW WE WERE HERE HAVING A MEETING ON THAT TUESDAY NIGHT AND WE HEARD THE TRAIN HORNS.

SO WE KNEW IT WAS A VALID COMMENT ON FACEBOOK THAT THE HORNS WERE BEING BLOWN AT THE PROSPECTIVE INTERSECTIONS FOR SAFETY.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THERE.

THEY'RE THERE FOR SAFETY AS WELL.

OK, IF THAT'S ALL FOR NO.

NINE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 10.

[10. Presentation on the findings for energy efficiency and facilities improvements opportunity by Schneider Electric.]

OPPORTUNITY BY SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC.

CHRIS, I'LL TOSS TO YOU FIRST.

SO I STARTED WORKING WITH SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC IN WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? YEAH, 2015.

AND SO WE HAD A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROJECT WITH THE CITY OF ROCKDALE AND LINKED BACK UP WITH DEBORAH WHEN I GOT HERE AND SHE TALKED ABOUT AN EARLIER PROJECT THE CITY WAS WORKING ON. I THINK IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT WHERE THE CURRENT MONEY WE SPEND CAN HELP US INCREASE OUR EFFICIENCY, ENERGY SAVINGS AND ESPECIALLY AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WHERE THE BUGS ARE NOT HAPPY.

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JUST TO LET STAFF KNOW WE WERE GIVING A PRESENTATION.

IT HAS OUR PHOTOGRAPHS ON IT, SIR.

WE USED THE ONE OFF THE POST OFFICE WALL.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. OK, THANK YOU.

OK. WELL, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.

I'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE ACTUALLY STARTED A STUDY WITH ANGLETON BACK IN 2014.

THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME, I BELIEVE, WAS MICHAEL [INAUDIBLE].

I ALSO HAVE WITH ME VIRTUALLY MY ENGINEERS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE INFORMATION FOR THE CITY.

THEY ARE DIALED IN. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM.

JASON.

AND GENTLEMEN, I KNOW YOU CAN PROBABLY HEAR ME.

I CANNOT HEAR YOU UNTIL IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO PRESENT.

SO I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR PRESENTATIONS BEFORE YOU.

AND THEN I WILL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATIONS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

SO ON THE SCREEN BEFORE US HERE, THE DISCUSSION TOPICS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH, BRIEFLY.

I WANT TO JUST START RIGHT BACK INTO THE 2015, BUSINESS CASE, AM I TOO FAR? IT'S COMMON IT HAPPENS A LOT.

SHE DID IT THIS. THERE YOU GO.

OK, GREAT.

IN 2015, WE HAD ENGAGED A BUSINESS CASE WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT FOR ENERGY CONSERVATION.

A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT IS ACTUALLY A FINANCIAL VEHICLE.

IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO ITS FACILITIES OVER TIME USING SAVINGS AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS COME TO THE CITY TODAY.

THAT PROGRAM IS SANCTIONED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THERE'S ALSO A GUARANTEE THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT PROJECT.

IF WE DO NOT MEET THE SAVINGS THAT WE SAY THE CITY WOULD MEET ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THEN SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC WOULD WRITE A CHECK TO THE CITY FOR ANY DIFFERENCE.

WE CERTAINLY WOULD COME BACK OUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S NOT PERFORMING THE WAY WE HAD DESIGNED IT TO PERFORM IN MY TWENTY SIX YEAR CAREER WITH SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC.

I HAVE NEVER WRITTEN A CHECK ON ANY PROJECTS.

I WILL SAY SCHNEIDER HAS WRITTEN CHECKS ON PROJECTS, AND THAT'S JUST GOOD INSURANCE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR GUARANTEE IS GOOD.

THE OPPORTUNITY MATRIX THAT YOU SEE HERE WAS THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED IN 2015.

SO ALONG THE LEFT ARE THE FACILITIES THAT WE SAW, AND THEN ACROSS THE TOP ARE THE ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES, OR I'M GOING TO REFER TO THEM AS [INAUDIBLE].

THE CITY HAS ENGAGED SEVERAL OF THESE PROJECTS SINCE 2015.

SO IN OUR MOST RECENT ANALYSIS, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT WORK HAS BEEN REMOVED.

ALSO, AT THE TIME WHEN WE DID THIS ANALYSIS, THE CITY WAS EXPERIENCING GREAT GROWTH AND I BELIEVE YOU WERE CONSIDERING AN IMPACT TAX AT THE TIME.

AND TO HAVE THESE TWO PROJECTS SIMULTANEOUS WAS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

AND SO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS PUT ON THE BACK BURNER.

SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN 2015.

I WILL POINT OUT THAT YOU'LL SEE THERE WAS EIGHT TO $10 MILLION IDENTIFIED IN SAVINGS FOR THE CITY OVER THAT 10 TO 20 YEAR PERIOD THAT WE ARE AFFORDED IN PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING.

MORE TIME.

YAY! SOME RESPONSE.

OK. WE REENGAGED WITH CHRIS, AS HE MENTIONED IN 2021.

AND CHRIS ASKED US TO TAKE THAT BUSINESS CASE THAT WE CREATED IN 2015 AND DUSTED OFF AND GO OUT AND SEE IF THERE WERE STILL ANY MEASURES THAT THAT WOULD BE FAVORABLE FOR THE CITY TO PURSUE. SO AT THIS TIME, IF WE CAN HEAR HIM, NATHAN, I'M GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO YOU AND I WILL MOVE THE SLIDES ALONG AS YOU'RE SPEAKING.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YEAH, I HEAR YOU GREAT.

OK, PERFECT. SO, YEAH, SO THANKS, DEBORAH.

SO WE CAME BACK OUT IN NOVEMBER AND WENT BACK THROUGH EACH YEAR BUILDINGS TO KIND OF SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE COULD IDENTIFY, SEE SOME THINGS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED FROM OUR PREVIOUS BUSINESS CASE AND JUST SEE WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES WE CAN BRING TO THE CITY. AND SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND KIND OF THE THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFIED.

SO STARTING WITH THE CITY HALL HERE, YOU CAN SEE THREE OF YOUR FIVE AIR HANDLERS NEED TO BE REPLACED ALONG WITH [INAUDIBLE] SPLIT SYSTEMS SO THAT YOUR MAIN AIR CONDITIONING FOR THAT BUILDING. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS JUST APPROVED A CONTRACT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT, SO WE CAN PROBABLY MARK THAT ONE OFF THE LIST.

WE ALSO SAW THAT THERE WAS SOME OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE UP SOME GAPS IN YOUR DOORS, DO A

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LIGHTING IS A BIG ENERGY SAVINGS OPPORTUNITY.

SO AT THE CITY HALL, MOST OF YOUR LIGHTING IS [INAUDIBLE] LIGHTING.

THAT'S AN OLDER GENERATION LIGHTING, SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE THAT TO LED.

IT'S ALSO A MAINTENANCE BURDEN.

YOU'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO REPLACE THOSE LIGHTS, WHICH LEADS TO A LOT OF INCONSISTENT LIGHT LEVELS. DIFFERENT LIGHTING COLORS CAN OFTEN HAVE BURN OUT LIKE YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS PICTURE. SO THAT'S ONE OPPORTUNITY TO SWITCH THAT OVER TO LED AT THE CITY HALL.

THERE'S ALSO A REPORT OF SOME ROOF LEAKS WHERE THE DETACHED ROOF HAD DETACHED AND WAS LETTING SOME WATER DOWN IN THROUGH THE SCENES ON THE WATER SIDE OF IT.

YOUR DOMESTIC WATER ARE USING MEDIUM FLOW FLUSH VALVES, SO THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE THAT TO HIGH EFFICIENCY UNITS TO ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT LESS WATER TO BE USED.

WHEN YOU'RE FLUSHING THOSE, YOUR HVAC UNITS ARE CURRENTLY BEING CONTROLLED BY STANDALONE THERMOSTATS, SO ESSENTIALLY THOSE UNITS RUN TWENTY FOUR SEVEN UNLESS SOMEBODY GOES AND TURNS THEM OFF. SO EVEN IF THE BUILDINGS ARE UNOCCUPIED, YOU'RE STILL CONSUMING ENERGY TO CONDITION THE SPACE THAT NO ONE'S IN.

THEY ALSO HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER THE SET POINTS SO PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND RUN THOSE GUYS DOWN PRETTY LOW OR RUN THEM UP HIGH, WHICH CAN REALLY WEAR ON THE EQUIPMENT, LEAD TO SOME SHORTER LIFE EXPECTANCY THINGS OF THAT SORT.

AND THEN ALSO, WHEN YOU'RE LIGHTING YOUR EXTERIOR LIGHTING, THIS IS ANOTHER BIG ONE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF LONG RUN HOURS ON THOSE.

THEY USUALLY THESE COME ON WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN AND THEY TURN THEM OFF WHEN THE SUN COMES BACK UP. SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THOSE OVER TO LED.

ALSO, WITH THE LED LIGHTING, YOU GET A LOT BETTER LIGHTING QUALITY OUT OF THOSE LIGHTS, SO IT REALLY GOES A LONG WAYS TO MAKE THE BUILDINGS LOOK BETTER.

IT IMPROVES SECURITY AROUND YOUR BUILDINGS BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE BETTER LIGHT SO YOU CAN SEE BETTER. SO IF ANYBODY'S AROUND THERE, THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE PRETTY EASILY IDENTIFIABLE. SO THEN OVER AT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE YOU HAVE A FEW HVAC SYSTEMS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

FIVE OF THE NINE SPLIT SYSTEMS NEED TO BE REPLACED.

A LOT OF THOSE ARE USING R-22 REFRIGERANT, WHICH HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED IN 2020.

SO THOSE WILL THAT WILL BECOME HARDER TO FIND AND ALSO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE BASICALLY IT HAS TO BE RECOVERED FROM OTHER UNITS OR IN AN EXISTING STOCK THAT SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS.

LIGHTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL COULD BE CHANGED OVER TO LED.

WHEN I WAS THERE, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A PLAN IN PLACE, I BELIEVE, TO START CONVERTING THOSE ALREADY.

SO DEPENDING ON HOW FAR ALONG THAT IS, WOULD BE A VARYING OPPORTUNITY THERE TO UPGRADE THOSE LIGHTS.

AGAIN, STANDALONE THERMOSTATS IN THAT BUILDING SO NO TIME SCHEDULE CONTROLS.

YOUR RECREATION CENTER, SO YOUR RECREATION CENTER DOES HAVE A BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEM, SO IT BASICALLY HAS A COMPUTER THAT WILL OPERATE YOUR HVAC SYSTEM.

YOU GOT SOME GRAPHICS PAGES HERE THAT GIVES YOUR MAINTENANCE TEAM INSIGHT ON HOW THOSE UNITS ARE OPERATING.

I WILL SAY THAT IN THIS SYSTEM, FOR SOME REASON, THERE WERE CURRENTLY NO TIME SCHEDULES, SO IT WAS EARNING TWENTY FOUR SEVEN.

THEY WERE HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE NOT THE UNITS NOT FALLING SET POINTS IN THE ROOMS SO A LOT OF THE ROOMS ARE BEING OVER COLD AND THEN YOU HAD INSTALLED A COUPLE OF UNITS. I GUESS THAT WEREN'T ON THE SYSTEM, SO THOSE UNITS IN YOUR WEIGHT ROOM WEREN'T ON THE SYSTEM AND THOSE ARE JUST ON REGULAR STANDALONE THERMOSTATS, A FEW ROOF LEAKS IN THAT BUILDING AS WELL. IT WAS ACTUALLY RAINING PRETTY GOOD THE DAY I WAS THERE AND HAD A FEW BUCKETS PLACED AROUND THE BUILDING.

COLLECTING SOME OF THE WET SPOTS COMING THROUGH.

DOOR SWEEPS AND OTHER EXTERIOR PENETRATIONS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR SOME IMPROVED BUILDING ENVELOPE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU'RE LIGHTING AGAIN.

YOUR GYM IS USING HIGH, HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE BULBS, WHICH ARE REAL HIGH LUMEN, HIGH WATTAGE FIXTURES.

CONVERTING THOSE TO LED WOULD PROVIDE SOME SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.

YOUR POOL AREA HAD ALREADY BEEN CONVERTED TO LED, BUT PRETTY MUCH THE REST OF THE BUILDING WAS ON SOME SORT OF TA OR HID LIGHT.

DID ALSO NOTE THAT THE DIMMING SYSTEM IN THE DANCE CLASS HAD BEEN BYPASSED BECAUSE IT WAS NO LONGER FUNCTIONAL.

SO LOOK AT POSSIBLY GETTING THAT BACK UP AND RUNNING AGAIN.

I'M TRYING TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE, NATHAN.

WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY HERE.

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YES, YOU HAVE. I'M GOING TO SEE IF I CAN GO BACK AND THEN ADVANCE.

TRY IT AGAIN. MAYBE MAYBE IT'S NOT YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] MAKE A DONATION. YEAH.

SURE. PERHAPS WE JUST TAKE IT OUT OF PRESENTATION MODE, OR IS IT AUTOMATICALLY IN PRESENTATION MODE SINCE IT'S IN? I DON'T KNOW, LET'S SEE.

ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU. MOVING ON.

ALL RIGHT, SO AT YOUR VARIOUS FIRE STATIONS, FIRE STATION ONE NEEDS ALL THREE SPLIT SYSTEMS REPLACED AND ONE SPLIT SYSTEM OVER THE FIRE STATION TOO.

ALL THOSE FIRE STATIONS ARE ON STAND ALONE THERMOSTATS.

SO OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE THOSE AND GET THEM ON TO BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEM AND THEN AGAIN, LED LIGHTING IN EACH OF THOSE FACILITIES.

AND YOU KIND OF HAVE A SMATTERING OF A VARIETY BETWEEN EACH OF THE AREAS.

YOU HAVE SOME [INAUDIBLE], A LITTLE BIT OF LED HERE AND THERE, BUT DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR LIGHTING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE ALL SWITCHED OVER TO LED LIGHTS.

UH, YOUR PARKS, THE [INAUDIBLE] BLOCKING, OBVIOUSLY SWITCHING THOSE TO LED BRING A LOT OF THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

IT GIVES YOU BETTER QUALITY, BETTER LIGHT DISTRIBUTION ACTUALLY AIMS THE LIGHT A LOT BETTER. SO YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF LIGHT POLLUTION UP INTO THE AIR, INTO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.

I WILL SAY USUALLY THE PROBLEM WITH THE PAYBACK ON A LIGHTING PROJECT FOR A SPORTS COMPLEX IS JUST THE AMOUNT OF RUN HOURS.

THOSE FACILITIES JUST USUALLY AREN'T RAN THAT LONG.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS TO KIND OF DO A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF CHANGING THOSE OVER TO LED.

BUT IF THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN IMPROVING THOSE FACILITIES, YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BETTER LIGHTING. YOU HAVE INSTANT ON OFF CAPABILITIES.

SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO WAIT FOR THEM TO WARM UP OR IF THEY ACCIDENTALLY TURNED OFF WAITING FOR THOSE TO WARM UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER BENEFITS OUTSIDE OF THE ENERGY SAVINGS TO CONVERTING THOSE OVER TO LED. AND THEN YOUR STREET LIGHTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY DOESN'T OWN THE STREET LIGHTS.

THOSE ARE OWNED BY THE UTILITY.

SO LOOKING AT POSSIBLY UPGRADING THOSE TO LED REALLY AGAIN BRINGS A LOT OF THAT NICE CLEAN LIGHTING TO THE CITY.

I HEARD YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT SOME DARK AREAS THAT YOU HAD AROUND THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS.

THINGS LIKE THAT CAN EASILY BE ADDRESSED THROUGH LED LIGHTS.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH UTILITIES TO WHERE THE CITY COULD POSSIBLY FIND THE CHANGING OUT OF THOSE STREET LIGHTS TO LED.

IN RETURN, THE UTILITY WOULD REDUCE YOUR BASICALLY MONTHLY FLAT RATE PAYMENT THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THOSE UNITS, SO OVER TIME IT WOULD BASICALLY PAY ITSELF BACK.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING IF WE GET INTO THE INVESTMENT GRADE AUDIT THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO EXPLORE WITH THE UTILITY ON YOUR BEHALF.

ALL RIGHT. I'M TRYING.

I MAY HAVE TO GET JASON TO.

THERE YOU GO. AND SO NOW I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH.

WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES REALLY EACH OF THESE ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES JUST KIND OF AS A HIGH LEVEL, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICK.

AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I CAN GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU LIKE ABOUT EACH ONE OF THEM. BUT AGAIN, INTERIOR LIGHTING, GETTING THOSE UPGRADED TO LED.

THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

YOU CAN DO A FLAT PANEL, YOU CAN DO TUBES, BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO EXPLORE WHAT THE BEST FIT IS FOR THE THE CITY ON TOP OF THE ENERGY SAVINGS.

ALSO, LED LIGHTS USUALLY HAVE AROUND A 20 YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCY, SO THE IDEA IS ONCE YOU PUT ONE OF THOSE LIGHTS IN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MESS WITH IT FOR 20 YEARS.

SO THE MAINTENANCE STAFF REALLY APPRECIATES THAT JUST KIND OF CHECKS ONE NUISANCE THING OFF THE LIST FOR THEM IF THEY NO LONGER HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

SAME THING FOR THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING.

AGAIN, KIND OF TALKED AROUND THE BENEFITS OF IT REALLY A LOT OF THE INCREASED SAFETY.

A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT DOES REALLY LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, YOUR DIFFERENT CAMPUSES OF YOUR BUILDINGS UP A LOT BETTER.

IT GIVES A MUCH FEWER DARK AREAS IF YOU DO HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS THAT USUALLY ENHANCES

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SO A LOT, A LOT OF PERIPHERAL BENEFITS TO THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING AS WELL.

AND THEN MECHANICAL RETROFITS AND OF COURSE, ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, SO WE WOULD LOOK AT MAKING SURE THE EQUIPMENT IS SIZE CORRECTLY.

A LOT OF TIMES BUILDINGS WERE ORIGINALLY ENGINEERED WITH UNITS THAT ARE A LITTLE TOO BIG BECAUSE THE ENGINEER WAS A LITTLE TOO CAUTIOUS.

WE'D GO BACK AND DO HEAT LOAD CALCULATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CORRECT UNIT IS IN PLACE. SOMETIMES THE SPACE INSIDE THE BUILDING HAS CHANGED.

SO IF YOU CONVERTED TO LIKE A COMPUTER SCIENCE LAB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT HAS A LOT BIGGER HEAT LOAD. MAYBE YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT BIGGER UNIT FOR HAVING HEATING PROBLEMS. SO THAT WOULD BE A FULLY ENGINEERED SOLUTION FOR YOU GUYS TO KIND OF DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST FIT ON THE MECHANICAL SIDE WOULD BE FOR THOSE RETROFITS.

ANY UNITS THAT MAYBE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE REPLACED RIGHT NOW, WE LOOK AT DOING A REFURBISHMENT ON THOSE, AND IT BASICALLY BRINGS THOSE UNITS BACK UP TO THE ORIGINAL EFFICIENCIES. SO AFTER TIME, YOUR UNIT BECOMES LESS EFFICIENT, DOESN'T COOL AS WELL.

TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE ENERGY TO ACTUALLY RUN IT.

THERE'S A REFURBISHMENT PROCESS THAT WE CAN PUT THOSE THROUGH TO GET THOSE EFFICIENCIES BACK IN PLACE FOR YOU.

OK. WHAT ARE CONVERSATION LIKE I SAID BEFORE, REALLY ON THE DOMESTIC SIDE, LOOKING AT DOING LOW FLOW TOILETS, LOW FLOW URINALS AND THEN AERATION BASINS UNDER SINKS AS WELL.

SOMETIMES DURING THIS CONVERSION, TOO, IF CLIENTS DON'T HAVE AUTOMATIC FLUSHES OR AUTOMATIC SINKS, WE COULD LOOK AT ADDING THOSE IN AS WELL.

A BUILDING ENVELOPE, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE YOUR ROOFS ARE SEALED.

THERE'S NO LEAKY WINDOWS.

A LOT OF TIMES WE WON'T DO A COMPLETE WINDOW RETROFIT.

IT'S MORE OF WINDOW FILM OR CAULKING AROUND THE WINDOWS JUST BECAUSE THE EXPENSIVE WINDOWS, UNLESS THE CLIENT SHOULD REALLY WANT YOU TO CHANGE THE LOOK OF THEIR BUILDING.

A LOT OF TIMES THAT WINDOW FILM AND THE CAULKING WILL BRING SAVINGS AND INCREASE THE COMFORT INSIDE THE BUILDING AS WELL.

AND THEN WE WOULD JUST LOOK AT CLOSING UP ALL THE GAPS IN THE DOORS AND THE ROOF JOINTS OR ANY OTHER BUILDING ENVELOPE ISSUES THAT WE COULD FIND.

BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEM, OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD WANT TO GET ALL YOUR BUILDINGS ONTO A BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEM TO GET THAT CONTROL, SO THAT WAY WHEN THE BUILDINGS AREN'T OCCUPIED, WE AREN'T WASTING ENERGY AND RUNNING THOSE UNITS.

IT ALSO IS A GREAT TOOL FOR YOUR MAINTENANCE TEAM BECAUSE ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS ARE WEB BASED. SO IF REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY'RE AT, THEY COULD ON THEIR PHONE, TABLET ANYWHERE.

THERE'S AN INTERNET CONNECTION YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET INTO HERE.

IF YOU HAVE A HOT CALL OR SOMEBODY HAVING A PROBLEM, THEY CAN PULL IT UP WHEREVER THEY'RE AT AND DIAGNOSE IT WITHOUT EVEN HAVING TO GO OVER TO THE BUILDING.

SO A LOT OF BIG ADVANTAGES OF THE BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEM.

AND THEN FINALLY, JUST SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH THAN THE NEXT STAGE OF THIS PROCESS IS WE DO LOOK AT YOUR VOICE OVER IP AND TELECOM RATES.

SO BASICALLY JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP REDUCE THOSE COSTS TO BRING SAVINGS TO THE PROJECTS ON SITE SANITIZER GENERATION.

A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS WITH THE SUPPLY SHORTAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND AS PRICES ARE GOING UP FOR CLEANING SOLUTIONS, THERE'S ACTUALLY A WAY TO PRODUCE THOSE ON SITE.

SO YOU REALLY GO FROM PAYING EIGHT TO TEN DOLLARS A BOTTLE FOR A CLOROX OR SOMETHING OF THAT SIDE TO GENERATING IT YOURSELF.

AND IT COSTS ABOUT TWENTY FIVE CENTS A GALLON.

SO DEPENDING ON THE CURRENT SPEND ON THAT, THAT COULD BE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

SOLAR GENERATION I KNOW THE CITY HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOME SHOWPIECES TO WHERE WE COULD HAVE A SOLAR INSTALLATION THAT'S POSSIBLY TIED INTO AN ENERGY KIOSK AND KIND OF AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE FOR THIS FOR THE CITIZENS TO COME AND LOOK AND SEE HOW THAT OPERATES AND POSSIBLY POWER SOMETHING DIRECTLY OFF THAT SOLAR GENERATION AND TIE IT INTO THE UTILITY DASHBOARD.

AND THEN ALSO POWER RESILIENCY.

SO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO PRODUCE POWER.

THE MAIN POWER IS LOST TO THESE BUILDINGS TO KEEP THEM UP AND OPERATIONAL.

ALL RIGHT, YOU'VE HEARD ME [INAUDIBLE] ON LONG ENOUGH.

I'LL LET DAVID TAKE OVER AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

OK, THANKS. [INAUDIBLE] CAN YOU HEAR ME OK? I THINK YOU NEED TO MOVE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE DAVID.

OK. IS THAT BETTER? THANK YOU. OK.

WELL, SEPTEMBER THE 30TH, WE CAME OUT AND TOOK A LOOK AT YOUR FACILITIES, AND I WENT THROUGH THE FACILITIES WITH [INAUDIBLE] FLORES, YOUR PLANT OPERATOR, AND DEVELOPED A

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WE DID IDENTIFY IN THE HEAD WORKS SOME ADDITIONAL PROJECTS WHERE YOU HAVE SOME MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT. [INAUDIBLE] SCREENS, PUMP [INAUDIBLE] WASHER THAT NEEDED REPLACING.

AND I BELIEVE THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED EARLIER OR LATER LAST YEAR.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

SO OUR FOCUS IS GOING TO BE ON IMPROVING THE EFFICIENCY OF THE [INAUDIBLE] BASIS, THE AEROBIC DIGESTER AND DIRTY WATERING.

SO IF YOU WANT TO JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND LIST THE.

OK, SO THE FIRST THREE THAT YOU SEE THERE, THE MECHANICAL [INAUDIBLE] BEING [INAUDIBLE] WASHER, THEY WERE ALL OUT OF SERVICE AND THEY CLEARLY NEED TO BE IN SERVICE, AND THAT'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY A CONTRACT THAT YOU'VE ALREADY AWARDED.

I SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.

YOUR ENERGY USE FOR [INAUDIBLE] IS ACTUALLY QUITE HIGH.

I THINK YOUR PLANT [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND AND ALL OF THAT, ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND OF THAT MONEY IS SPENT JUST ON [INAUDIBLE] IN [INAUDIBLE] BASINS YOU HAVE, WHICH IS EXTREMELY HIGH FOR THE SIZE OF [INAUDIBLE] THE FLOWS AND LOADINGS THAT YOU GET, WHAT'S DRIVING THAT IS YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL ON THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND YOU HAVE TUBE DIFFUSERS, BUT ALL OF THE DIFFUSER TUBES ARE BLOWN OUT, SO IT'S GONE FROM [INAUDIBLE], WHICH IS EFFICIENT.

DAVID, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER, PLEASE? YEAH, I CAN. TO IT'S NOW OPERATING AS, OF COURSE, BUBBLE DIFFUSION SYSTEM, WHICH IS A LOT OF ENERGY MORE FOR MIXING AND NOT SO MUCH FOR OXYGEN TRANSFER.

SO WE PLAN ON INSTALLING ALL NEW DIFFUSER TUBES AND THEN WE'LL ALSO DO SOME AIR BALANCING BY PUTTING AUTOMATED VALVES IN THE [INAUDIBLE] HEADER AND THEN PUT A CONTROL SYSTEM THAT WILL ALLOW IT TO AUTOMATICALLY CONTROL AND IT CAN BE TIED INTO YOUR [INAUDIBLE].

THE AMOUNT OF OXYGEN THAT'S DELIVERED TO THE SYSTEM AND DELIVERY OF OXYGEN EQUATES TO ENERGY. SO YOU DELIVER OXYGEN, YOU USE TOO MUCH ENERGY.

SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CUT THE USE OF ENERGY BY 50 PERCENT.

AND IT'S A COMBINATION.

AND WHEN I SAY 50 PERCENT IT'S 50 PERCENT ON THE [INAUDIBLE].

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY IN THE I WOULD GUESS YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THE 40 THOUSAND RANGE OR SO FOR SAVINGS ON THE ENERGY COMPONENT FOR THE [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S ALSO A COMBINATION OF GOING BACK TO ON SITE DE-WATERING.

CURRENTLY, YOU HAVE A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR THAT DOES DE-WATERING FOR YOU.

SO THEY COME IN, BRING IN A MOBILE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, USE THEIR PUMPS TO PUMP INTO THEIR DE-WATERING EQUIPMENT, AND THEN THEY PROCESS IT ON SITE AND TAKE THE WATER AND SOLIDS TO A LANDFILL FOR DISPOSAL.

AND I RAN SOME NUMBERS, AND A TYPICAL COST IS ABOUT $60 PER [INAUDIBLE] FOR DISPOSAL, FOR TRANSPORTATION AND DISPOSAL.

YOU'RE RUNNING ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DOLLARS PER WET TIME USING THE METHOD YOU ARE NOW. SO, SO EVEN GETTING IT BACK TO WHERE YOU DO IT ON SITE IS GOING TO CUT YOUR DISPOSAL COST IN HALF.

THE BIGGEST BENEFIT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS YOU ONLY DO WATER SOLIDS ONCE EVERY 90 DAYS.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT ROUTINELY EACH WEEK.

IF YOU DON'T, YOU BUILD UP INVENTORY IN YOUR WASTEWATER PLANT.

THIS IS WHY YOUR [INAUDIBLE] AREN'T HAPPY.

YOU BUILD UP THE INVENTORY OF SOLIDS BECAUSE YOU HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO GET RID OF IT OTHER THAN FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

SO YOU END UP BUILDING UP A HIGHER INVENTORY OF SOLIDS IN THOSE ITERATION BASINS, WHICH INCREASES ENERGY USE.

YOU RUN, YOU'RE RUNNING PROPERLY MIXED LIQUIDS, ABOUT DOUBLE ONE.

THEY SHOULD BE COMPARED TO THE DESIGN.

SO BY HAVING ON SITE ABILITY TO DO FREQUENT WASTING ON SITE AND BE WATERING ON SITE, SO WE'RE ROUTINELY FILLING UP A ROLL OFF BOX, TAKING IT TO THE LANDFILL.

YOU'LL NOT ONLY CUT YOUR DISPOSAL COSTS IN HALF, BUT YOU'LL GET A MUCH, A MUCH REDUCED INVENTORY OF SOLID, WHICH HELPED REDUCE ENERGY USE.

SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN YOUR BIOSOLIDS, TOO.

SO YOUR BIO SOLIDS IN GENERAL ARE GOING TO PROBABLY BE 50 PERCENT SAVINGS ON THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE AEROBIC DIGESTER JUST TO GET YOUR GRAVITY, [INAUDIBLE], WHICH IS EXISTING, BUT THE MECHANICALS ARE MISSING.

SO WE REHAB THAT AND GET THAT BACK TO WORKING SO YOU CAN [INAUDIBLE] THE SOLIDS CONCENTRATION BEFORE IT GOES TO THE WATER EQUIPMENT.

AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT INSTALLING A NEW SCREW PRESS IN YOUR DE-WATERING SHELTER THAT YOU HAVE ON SITE AND THEN PUTTING IN NEW SLUDGE PUMPS.

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SO IT PUTS YOU BACK TO YOUR YOUR DESIGN CAPACITY AND ALSO GIVES YOU SIGNIFICANT ENERGY SAVINGS TO MAKE THE PLANT A LOT MORE EASY TO OPERATE FOR THE OPERATORS THEMSELVES.

SO I THINK THAT COVERS THE ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES FOR THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

THANK YOU, DAVID. COUNCIL, DID YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID OR NATHAN ON THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THEY HAVE PRESENTED? I DO. JOHN WRIGHT COUNCILMAN POSITION TWO THREE HAS A QUESTION.

I THINK WE FIGURED THAT OUT THE OTHER DAY.

THREE. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS I SAW THE EIGHT TO 10 MILLION IN SAVINGS.

BUT CAN YOU GIVE US A BREAKDOWN ON SPECIFICALLY THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OF THAT EIGHT AND 10 MILLION? WHAT PORTION OF THAT IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT? OK, SO THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE SHOWED FROM 2015 AND THIS PARTICULAR ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE FOR YOU, IT'S BEEN A NO COST ANALYSIS FOR THE CITY.

AND SO ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE BROUGHT YOU, THE ENGINEERS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE ON PROPERTY, THE INTERVIEWS THAT WE'VE CONDUCTED IN THE DATA THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TONIGHT IS ALL AT COST FOR SCHNEIDER.

SO IT'S A HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT YOUR FACILITIES.

ALSO BACK THEN, THERE'S THINGS BEING ADDRESSED NOW THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THAT AS WELL, WHICH ALSO AFFECTS YOUR EFFICIENCIES.

SO THOSE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED.

THEY'RE LESS NOW BECAUSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF WORK THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR AT THE SOUTH PLANT. WE KNOW ALSO WITH THE CITY GROWING, YOU'RE ENTERTAINING, MAYBE A NEW PLANT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.

WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SOUTH PLANT IS OPERATING AS EFFICIENT AS IT CAN SO THAT IT'S HANDLING THE SIZE THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO.

SO ON ACTUAL DOLLARS, I DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL DOLLAR OF THAT BREAKDOWN.

NORMALLY, WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT 20 TO 30 PERCENT ON OUR SAVINGS ESTIMATES SO THAT OUR CUSTOMERS CAN MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO PURSUE. SO WHAT WE WOULD DO, OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO ENGAGE IN INVESTMENT GRADE AUDIT.

THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY OF COST FOR THE CITY.

THAT AUDIT IS PERFORMED WITH A PRE-AGREED TO COST.

THAT COST IS REALLY AN EXIT FEE.

SO LET'S SAY THAT THE AUDIT IS TEN BUCKS AND IT ACTUALLY COSTS US FORTY BUCKS TO DEVELOP IF YOU DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD THE EXIT FEE TO USE THE TEN DOLLARS, BUT IT BRINGS SKIN TO THE GAME IN INTEREST AND INTENT SO THAT WE KNOW TOGETHER WHAT WE'RE DEVELOPING IS WHAT THE CITY INTENDS TO BUY.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION AS BEST I CAN, BUT I WANT TO GO ON AND TALK FURTHER ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER INFORMATION REGARDING THE SAVINGS.

DAVID, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY TO THAT? WELL, I CAN SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE SAVINGS IN THE AREA OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT, IF YOU'D LIKE, BECAUSE IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT EIGHTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR IN SAVINGS.

AND WHEN YOU DO IT OVER THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT, THAT'S WHERE YOU GET INTO THE LARGER NUMBERS. BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH SPLIT EVENLY.

THE SAVINGS ARE ABOUT THE SAME ON ENERGY AS THEY ARE ON THE DE-WATERING.

AND IT'S NOT, I WOULD SAY A PROCESS UPGRADE IS MORE OF A PROCESS RESTORATION.

IT'S THINGS YOU USED TO HAVE WITH THE EQUIPMENT WORE OUT, BROKE.

IT WAS NEVER REPLACED.

SO IN THAT YOU WANT IN THE REALM OF DE-WATERING, YOU NOW HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT'S DOING THAT FOR YOU AND IT COSTS YOU A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE HE HAS TO BRING THAT EQUIPMENT IN MOBILIZING, DEMOBILIZING.

SO WHEN YOU DO IT ON SITE YOURSELF, YOU SAVE SIGNIFICANTLY AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH GOING TO CUT YOUR COST IN HALF FROM WHAT YOU SPEND TODAY.

AND THE SAME ON [INAUDIBLE].

YOUR COST OF [INAUDIBLE] IS EXTREMELY HIGH BECAUSE ALL YOUR DIFFUSER TUBES ARE BROKEN, SO THE NO LONGER OPERATING LIKE THEY SHOULD.

YOU DO NOT HAVE A CONTROL SYSTEM, SO YOU TEND TO [INAUDIBLE].

AND WHEN YOU PUT THE CONTROL SYSTEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEW DIFFUSERS, BRINGING IT BACK TO DESIGN CAPACITY, THAT'S WHERE THE SAVINGS ARE COMING FROM.

AND THAT'S THAT GIVES YOU A TOTAL OF ABOUT EIGHTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED YEARS SAVINGS. AND I'LL SAY IT MUCH EASIER PLAN TO OPERATE.

AND IN PARTICULAR, WHEN YOU GET WET WEATHER SERVICE TO THE PLANT, IT WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND MUCH MORE EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE HIGH INVENTORY OF SOLIDS, YOU HAVE A TENDENCY TO PUSH THE SOLIDS OVER THE CLASSIFIERS AND THEN YOU GET SOLIDS VIOLATIONS.

SURE. THANK YOU, DAVID.

THANK YOU. I WOULD ALSO COUNCILMAN WRIGHT, LIKE TO REFER BACK TO THAT FIRST OPPORTUNITY MATRIX THAT WE SHARED THAT STATED THE EIGHT TO 10 MILLION.

WE ALSO HAD A WATER METER PROJECT IN THERE AND THE CITY HAD NOT DONE ITS WATER METER PROJECT, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

BY IMPLEMENTING THAT PROJECT, THAT PROJECT IS UNDERWAY.

IT'S NOT COMPLETE, BUT YOU DO HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEED TO FINISH THAT PROJECT

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AND SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ENTERTAINING.

SO THE INFORMATION TODAY, THE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE IN SAVINGS FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE SAW IN 2015 CERTAINLY IS A COMPLIMENT TO THE CITY THAT YOU'VE RECOGNIZED THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND YOU'RE MAKING EFFORTS TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE.

AND FOR US, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS AND SAVINGS, WHEN WE'RE BRINGING IN A NO COST AUDIT.

SO WE'RE PUTTING OUR DATA IN WITH OUR ENGINEERS AND OUR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS AND COMPARING IT TO OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE AND LOOKING AT GEOGRAPHICALLY, WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, WHAT THE COST FOR UTILITIES ARE AND WHAT WE BELIEVE THOSE SAVINGS WILL BE AND FEEL VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT THAT.

SO I HOPE THAT GIVES YOU SOME COMPARISON BETWEEN THE 2015 EIGHT TO TEN AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.

I ALSO WILL TELL YOU, I MENTIONED THAT INVESTMENT GRADE AUDIT.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, JASON, LET'S JUST MOVE ON AND I'LL MOVE BACK TO THE AUDIT AND JUST ON IT. SO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS PROJECT.

I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING THAT PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING IS A FINANCIAL VEHICLE IS A WAY FOR THE CITY TO DO WORK TODAY AND USE SAVINGS OVER TIME TO PAY FOR THAT.

AND THE STATE LEGISLATES THAT I MUST GUARANTEE THOSE DOLLARS.

SO IF YOUR PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO SAVE ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR AND I'VE SAVED YOU ONE FIFTY, THEN WE WOULD BE WRITING THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT CHECK TO THE CITY. THAT'S TO SATISFY DEBT.

MOST OF MY CUSTOMERS, I'VE HAD ONE IN TWENTY SIX YEARS THAT PAID CASH FOR THEIR PROJECT.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE DEBT SERVICE, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDS ARE THERE IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THAT DEBT.

THE SAVINGS ARE ACTUALLY MOVED OUT OF YOUR EXISTING BUDGET INTO A NEW LINE ITEM THAT SATISFIES YOUR DEBT.

WE USE STIMULUS MONEY WHENEVER IT'S AVAILABLE.

I KNOW THE CITY HAS RECEIVED SOME FEDERAL FUNDS, AND CHRIS, I BELIEVE YOU SAID YOU'VE EXHAUSTED MOST OF THOSE FUNDS FOR PROJECTS.

AND OF COURSE, THE GUARANTEE THAT I MENTIONED THAT IF THERE'S A SHORTFALL THAT SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC WOULD COVER THAT WE'RE ALWAYS AFTER REBATES.

I DID A COMPLETE OVERHAUL OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE CITY OF [INAUDIBLE] IN 2014, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF REBATES FOR THEM, FOR THE CITIZENS ALSO TO SEE THAT THESE ARE GOOD DECISIONS AND THE MONEY IS COMING BACK TO THE CITY.

THE THIRD PARTY FINANCING, WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU THAT INFORMATION THAT IS SEPARATE.

WE WILL HELP YOU SHOP RATES IF YOU NEED THAT AND GIVE YOU INFORMATION, BUT THAT IS A SEPARATE CONTRACT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, JASON. I'M SORRY.

WE CERTAINLY ARE ABIDING BY THE CORONAVIRUS MONIES THAT ARE COMING IN.

I WORK IN HIGHER EDUCATION AS WELL, AND THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT'S BEING SENT TO THE CAMPUSES FOR HEALTHY BUILDINGS AND CLEAN AIR.

AND THEN ALSO, I KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT, PERHAPS THE CITY WOULD BE TALKING TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD ABOUT FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS.

THANK YOU, JASON.

AND THE PERFORMANCE ASSURANCE I MENTIONED AGAIN.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TEAM ONCE THE PROJECT IS INSTALLED THAT'LL BE WORKING WITH YOUR TEAM THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF YEARS, THE PERFORMANCE ASSURANCE DOES MEASUREMENT AND VERIFICATION. SO WE'RE PROVIDING YOU WITH QUARTERLY REPORTS AND ANNUAL RECONCILIATION, AND THE CITY AT ANY TIME CAN CANCEL THAT MEASUREMENT AND VERIFICATION CONTRACT.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE TIMELINE, AND LET ME GO BACK NOW TO THE IGAS, THE INVESTMENT GRADE AUDIT FOR THE FACILITIES IS DONE AT A COST PER SQUARE FOOT.

YOU HAVE EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OR SO.

WE'RE ESTIMATING THIRTY TO THIRTY ONE CENTS A SQUARE FOOT FOR THAT AUDIT.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE TWENTY FIVE OR TWENTY SIX THOUSAND RANGE FOR YOUR FACILITIES. I AM GOING TO PROPOSE THAT THESE BEING TWO SEPARATE INVESTMENT GRADE ODDS, TWO SEPARATE IGAS, MOSTLY BECAUSE I BELIEVE JOHN COULD PROBABLY BACK ME UP FROM HDR.

AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS INFUSED INTO THE MARKET HAS SOLICITED A LOT OF WORK FROM CITIES, COUNTIES, K-12, HIGHER ED AND THE ARCHITECTURAL BASE IS JUST NOT THERE TO GET ALL THE WORK DONE.

AND SO IN ORDER TO GET TO THIS PROJECT, I'M SUGGESTING THE SECOND INVESTMENT GRADE AUDIT TO PUT YOU IN THE HOPPER SO THAT AT THAT TIME THAT WE CAN GET TO YOUR PROJECT, WE COULD GET UNDERWAY AND THERE WOULD BE NO OBLIGATION TO THE CITY TO PAY ANYTHING.

THERE'S NO COST ON THE IGAS UNTIL AFTER WE'RE IN CONSTRUCTION, AND THAT COST IS INCLUDED IN THE COST OF THE PROJECT.

SO THE FIRST IDEA TWENTY FIVE, TWENTY SIX THOUSAND, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHICH BUILDINGS THAT YOU WANT TO PUT IN. THE SECOND IGA IS ESTIMATED AT FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND OR UPWARDS, DEPENDING ON THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

AND IN THAT, WE ARE WORKING WITH A THIRD PARTY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WASTEWATER PLANT. SO THE GUARANTEE IS THERE FOR THE PLANT AS WELL.

WHATEVER SAVINGS WE SAY IS THERE, WE WILL GUARANTEE THAT AND I'M LOOKING AT MAYBE NINE MONTHS, NINE MONTHS TO A YEAR, PROBABLY BEFORE WE COULD PICK UP THAT PROJECT.

AS I SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THE IGA ALREADY BE IN PLACE.

THERE'S NO OBLIGATION TO THE CITY.

IF OUR BANDWIDTH OPENS UP, WE COULD GET TO IT A LITTLE SOONER.

AND IF YOU DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD, THERE'S NO OBLIGATION THERE.

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BUT BASICALLY, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH THE PROJECT.

THE TIMELINE THAT I PREVENTED PRESENTED HERE FOR YOU.

THE RED LINE IS WHERE WE ARE.

THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHT IS ALL THE MEETINGS.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD INFORMATION THAT WE'VE ALREADY EXCHANGED.

THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WAS ACTUALLY SPECIFIC TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

WE MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WITH COUNCILMAN BOOTH TO TALK ABOUT THE WASTEWATER PLANT IN DETAIL. SO YOU COULD SEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ESTIMATE OF 2023 INSTALLATION IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANT AND THEN PROBABLY LATE SUMMER FOR THE FACILITIES.

RIGHT. THANK YOU, JASON.

SO WHAT THIS PROJECT WILL DO IS IT'LL ADDRESS YOUR FACILITY NEEDS TODAY, AS WE SAW THERE ARE SEVERAL NEEDS IN YOUR FACILITIES.

IT COMPLETES THE UNFINISHED PROJECTS AND ALLOWS US TO REDUCE UTILITY COSTS AND SPEND AND USE POTENTIAL NEW RENEWABLE PROJECTS, SUCH AS THE SOLAR OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO LOOK AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND WE'LL USE THE SAVINGS TO PAY FOR THE PROJECTS OVER TIME, AND THAT WILL JUST A LITTLE PLUG.

SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC THAT WAS NAMED THE WORLD'S MOST SUSTAINABLE COMPANY FOR 2021.

MOST OF YOU IN THIS ROOM HAVE PROBABLY NEVER HEARD OF SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC.

WE ARE PROBABLY IN ALL OF YOUR HOMES OR ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND EMPLOYEES WERE ON EVERY CONTINENT IN THE UNITED STATES.

SOME OF YOU MAY RECOGNIZE SQUARE D.

THAT'S PART OF OUR COMPANY, AND SQUARE D IS PROBABLY THE BREAKER BOX THAT'S IN THE CLOSET AT YOUR HOUSE. IT'S GOT A BIG EMBOSSED SQUARE [INAUDIBLE].

WE'RE ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR YEAR OLD COMPANY, REALLY NEW AND YOUNG WITH THE COMPANY, TWENTY SIX YEARS, NATHAN THAT SPOKE WITH YOU EARLIER IS YOUR PROJECT DEVELOPMENT LEAD. HE'S BEEN WITH THE COMPANY 20 YEARS AND DAVID IS A WASTEWATER SPECIALIST EXPERT AND HE'S BEEN WITH OUR COMPANY EIGHT YEARS.

DAVID ACTUALLY WORKED WITH HDR IN DESIGNING THE PROJECT.

SO IN CONCLUSION, I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THIS GOOD NEWS.

THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN YOUR FACILITIES THAT WE CAN MOVE OVER TO SAVINGS TO PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS. TODAY, I AM DOING MULTIPLE PROJECTS NOW WITH CUSTOMERS I DID PROJECTS WITH 20 YEARS AGO. I UPGRADED THE JAIL AT THE FORT BEND COUNTY IN 1999 AND I REDID THAT PROJECT IN 2016, WORKING WITH MOST OF THE SAME COMMISSIONERS AND PURCHASING AGENT.

SO I'M HERE FOR YOU AS WELL AS OUR TEAM.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

QUESTIONS.

GO AHEAD, CHRIS. SO JUST QUICKLY, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS DONE.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE HEAD WORKS PROJECTS IN ROUTE.

WE, YOU KNOW, WERE 99 PERCENT DONE WITH THE AMI METERS.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS BASICALLY REDONE THEIR LIGHTING OVER THERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN LAND AN AIRCRAFT INSIDE, IT'S SO BRIGHT.

SO WE'VE MADE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT SO.

AND SAME THING WITH REPLACING TOILETS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF A MOVING PIECE.

AND AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST A I'LL CALL IT A GUESSTIMATE, YOU KNOW, GOOD ESTIMATE.

BUT ON HEALTH IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL THEY DO THE AUDIT, WE WON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

ALL RIGHT. AND DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON THE AUDIT? WHERE WE SIGNED THE CONTRACTS TO MOVE FORWARD, SO TONIGHT WAS REALLY ABOUT GETTING YOUR YOUR FEELING ON THIS.

I CAN CERTAINLY BRING THEM BACK WHEN WE CAN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA AND FIRM UP THE TIMELINE FOR DOING THAT.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING.

PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT THREE TO FOUR OFF WE ALREADY HAVE [INAUDIBLE].

AS FAR AS THE CONTRACTS THEMSELVES THEY ARE [INAUDIBLE].

MOST OF MY CUSTOMERS [INAUDIBLE] WASTEWATER PLANT IS OUT OF MY WHEELHOUSE HERE TO TELL YOU EXACTLY. [INAUDIBLE] WE COULD BE UNDERWAY, PROBABLY.

[INAUDIBLE] OK, THANK YOU.

SO YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM US RIGHT NOW.

SO JUST SOME COMMENTS LIKE WE'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE CONTRACT AND DISCUSSING THE [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH, I PERSONALLY, YEAH, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT SAVINGS, WHETHER IT'S LIGHTING, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING.

AND SO WE'VE TOSSED THAT AROUND FOR MANY YEARS.

SO I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL.

I'M JUST ONE, BUT MOVING TO SOME OF THESE.

THIS PUT THAT WAY.

I'M SHORT THE WORDS TONIGHT, SORRY, JOHN.

AS I THOUGHT MR. BRUCE WAS ABOUT TO SPEAK, I WAS.

MY IT'S KIND OF SICK.

MY HEART BEAT IS A SEWER PLANT.

ME TOO. IN, WHEN HE PRESENTED VARIOUS THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE OUT THERE TO PUT IT BACK

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AND PUTTING IT BACK WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IMPROVES THE EFFICIENCY OF THE PLANT, WHICH ALLOWS IT TO TREAT MORE WATER THAN IT'S CURRENTLY TREATING, SO IT WOULD TAKE THE LOAD OFF OF US THE BURDEN OFF THE CITY.

IN A TIME BEING UNTIL WE CAN GET AROUND TO PUTTING THIS NEW PLANT OUT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, SO ANYWHERE YOU CAN CUT EXPENDITURES.

BY IMPROVING EFFICIENCIES, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO PAY YOU BACK.

THANK YOU, MR. BOOTH. JOHN, OR SOMEBODY ELSE? MARK, TRAVIS? SO, DEBORAH, LET'S TALK ABOUT BRINGING THE CONTRACT BACK.

CIRCLE BACK, THANK YOU.

YEAH. OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG, ITEM NO.

[11. Discussion and possible action on the Miller and Parish Street improvements]

WE OWED YOU AN UPDATE.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WAS TRYING TO BE NICE DURING THE HOLIDAYS AND ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PAIN.

BUT WE OWE YOU UPDATES AND SOME OF THEM KIND OF NEED SOME ACTION AND DIRECTION.

SO WE'RE HERE TO SEEK DIRECTION AND MAYBE SEEK SOME ACTION.

THIS IS ONE OF THEM. WELL, [INAUDIBLE] JOHN.

ALL RIGHT. PREVIOUSLY, COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTRACT FOR US TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON MILLER STREET AT PARRISH INTERSECTION, WHICH INCLUDED INCREASING THE TURN RADIUS TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT SAFER AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MILLER.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FROM TJ WRIGHT ALL THE WAY TO THE PARRISH STREET INTERSECTION IS FILLING THAT DITCH IN AND TO PUT A SIDEWALK OVER THE TOP OF THAT, THERE WILL BE INLETS THAT WILL BE PUT IN TO ALLOW THE WATER TO BE COLLECTED INTO THE STORM SEWER THAT WILL BE INSTALLED AGAIN, THAT WILL TURN DOWN PARRISH AND GO DOWN TO THERE'S A BUS STOP THERE AND THEN IT WOULD PROVIDE A SIDEWALK TO WHERE PEOPLE COULD WALK FROM TJ WRIGHT? ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THAT BUS STOP THERE IN THAT AREA.

THE ASPHALT WILL BE REDONE AGAIN AT THAT INTERSECTION PARRISH.

WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PUT INTO MOTION, THE DEVELOPER THERE WAS A DEVELOPER THAT WAS INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING RIGHT THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MILLER STREET.

WE WENT AHEAD AND DISCUSSED WITH HIM AND PULLED OUT HIS HIS AMOUNT THAT HE WOULD OWE WOULD BE ABOUT $11000.

AND THIS IS GOING OFF OF HISTORICAL COSTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN AS THE CITY ON THESE PROJECTS. SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE PULLED IT OUT WHAT HE WOULD OWE THE CITY IN PREPARATION FOR THIS MEETING.

LINDSAY HAD CONTACTED THE DEVELOPER JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS STILL GOOD.

EVERYTHING WAS STILL GOING.

SINCE THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE BROUGHT THIS UP, THE DEVELOPER HAS STATED THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO PAY FOR THE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE? THAT HE WOULD PAY FOR THE SIDEWALK ON HIS NORTH SIDE WHEN HE DEVELOPS.

HE WOULD DO IT AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT IS DONE BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO DAMAGE THE SIDEWALK, SO HE DOESN'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND HE'S GOT SOME LACK OF BETTER WORDS [INAUDIBLE] IRONS IN THE FIRE.

OTHER DEVELOPMENTS HE'S WORKING ON WHERE THIS IS NOT A HIGH PRIORITY.

SO IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, IT WOULD BE OUT WITHOUT THE DEVELOPER PITCHING IN THE $11000 OF OF WHICH OF WHICH THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO TO MAKE. IS HE? WOULD HE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FILLING IN THE DITCH ON THE NORTH SIDE? THAT EITHER EITHER ONE OF TWO THINGS EITHER HE WOULD WANT TO APPROACH THE CITY TO, TO PAY BACK INTO WHAT HE OWES OR HE WOULD HAVE TO PAY.

HE WOULD HAVE TO FILL IN THE DITCH ON THE NORTH SIDE TO PUT THE SIDEWALK AND IF Y'ALL WERE TO MAKE HIM PUT THAT IN.

BUT THAT'S HIS DIRECTION HE GAVE.

LINDSAY WAS THAT HE WOULD DO HIS OWN.

MY UNDERSTANDING, IF I REMEMBER IN COUNCIL, IF I WAS WRONG, LET ME KNOW.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE WHEN HE CAME TO US, WE AGREED TO HELP HIM BY PUTTING THE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO ALLEVIATE THE UNDUE HARDSHIP HE WOULD HAVE OF PUTTING THE SIDEWALK IN ON HIS SIDE. AND THEN FOR HIM TO SAY HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT, HE PUT IT ON HIS SIDE IS ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE ARGUED THE NIGHT HE WAS HERE.

THE ENTIRE REASON HE WAS HERE WAS FOR A.

YEAH, FOR US NOT TO BE ABLE TO.

SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO PUT SIDEWALK IN.

BUT NOW HE DOESN'T WANT TO PAY US 11000, FOR HIS PART, IN THE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

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AND WHEN HE CAME TO US INITIALLY, IT WAS TO SEEK A VARIANCE TO, YOU KNOW, SO HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS, PERIOD.

AND HE HAD ARGUED THAT THE DITCHES ARE REALLY DEEP.

SOMEBODY COULD FALL IN.

ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND THAT WAS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO HIM WAS LET'S PUT THEM ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AND THAT WAY WE'RE STILL MEETING THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENT.

BUT IT MAKES MORE SENSE ON THAT SIDE, SO YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

BUT NOW HE SAYS HE WANTS TO PUT [INAUDIBLE] ON HIS SIDE, SO HE SHOULD HAVE TO EAT THE COST OF FILLING IN THE DITCH AS WELL TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING ON THAT.

DOES THIS INCLUDE THE DITCH ON THE NORTH SIDE? I DIDN'T SEE THAT.

THIS IS JUST A SOUTH SIDE RIGHT? THIS IS JUST THE SOUTH SIDE. WE WERE ONLY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WAS ONLY GOING TO SPEND BUDGET ON JUST THE SOUTH SIDE TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN.

IT'S TO COVER THAT DITCH, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT DOWN THE BUS STOP, AND.

IT WAS JUST TO ALLOW FOR THE TURNING RADIUS DOWN TO PARRISH AND THEN TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN ACROSS IT. SO THE GOOD NEWS IS IN ARP FUNDS, WE HAVE $200000 IN NEW SIDEWALK MONEY.

AND I WOULD RECOMMEND WE USE THAT AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT START ON THAT WEST SIDE TO PUT SOME NEW SIDEWALKS WHICH BADLY NEEDED.

I JUST I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, AND THIS MIGHT LEAD DOWN A RABBIT HOLE, BUT MILLER STREET, IF WE'RE DOING THIS AND WE'RE FILLING IN THE DITCH, PUTTING IN THE DRAINAGE, BASICALLY AND PUTTING THE SIDEWALK IN, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO TO CONCRETE THAT SECTION FROM TJ WRIGHT DOWN? [INAUDIBLE]. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL PAVING? YES. OK, THE PAVING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MESS WITH THE PAVING.

THE PAVING IS IN FAIR SHAPE RIGHT NOW.

WE DID DO A SECTION OF THE PAVING FURTHER DOWN THE NEXT INTERSECTION, WHICH IS.

RIGHT. YEAH, WE WENT.

WE WENT EAST. YEAH.

SO WE DID DO THAT AS FAR AS CONCRETE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DO CONCRETE IN THERE.

YOU'VE GOT A GOOD DEAL WITH THE COUNTY TO WHERE YOU KNOW THEY'RE PUTTING IT IN BASICALLY FOR COSTS WHEN THEY COME BACK AND REPAIR THE ASPHALT.

SO YOUR ASPHALT STREETS, YOU KNOW, IT'S.

WE'RE NOT GETTING VERY MUCH OUT OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S VERY LIMITED ON HOW MUCH.

I MEAN, THEY MISSED A WHOLE YEAR.

SO WHICH IS WHY GROVE DRIVE STILL HASN'T BEEN PAVED.

SO, BUT BUT AS FAR AS THIS, THIS PROJECT SHOULD NOT DAMAGE THAT ASPHALT OTHER THAN JUST AT THAT INTERSECTION WHERE THEY'LL PUT A PIPE ACROSS THAT INTERSECTION.

AND WE'RE WE'RE ALSO PUTTING BETTER RADIUS TURNS IN [INAUDIBLE] WHERE IT'S A LITTLE SAFETY OR SAFER IN THERE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES OVER THERE WITH THAT.

LIVE OAK AND PARRISH, AS WELL AS THERE'S A REALLY BAD INTERSECTION.

I'M HOPING AFTER WE FIX THIS WHEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY ADDRESS THAT ONE AS WELL.

SO YOU'RE WANT TO USE THE OF THE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR SIDEWALKS, USE ALMOST ALL OF IT ON THIS. YEAH, I MEAN, SO WE TALKED ABOUT NEW SIDEWALKS AND WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF EXISTING SIDEWALK ISSUES, BUT I REALLY THINK WE OUGHT TO SHOW THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND ESPECIALLY UNDERSERVED AREAS WITH SIDEWALKS AND.

I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GREAT PROJECT BECAUSE IT SOLVES DRAINAGE, IT SOLVES THAT TURN RADIUS. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT STARTS A SIDEWALK [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT THERE.

I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PAVING, BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHAT WE'D DO IS IF WE DECIDE WE EVER WANTED.

BECAUSE I BELIEVE AT ONE POINT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING MILLER AS CONCRETE, CURB AND GUTTER ALL THE WAY FROM LUKE TO SEVENTY FOUR BACK.

SO IF WE DO THIS AND WE SPEND THIS MONEY, WE PUT IT ON THE SIDEWALK, WE DO THE DRAINAGE AND THEN WE COME BACK LATER AND SAY, WE WANT TO DO MILLER.

WOULDN'T THAT AFFECT? WOULD WE BE WASTING TAX DOLLARS ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS? OR WOULD WE BE ABLE TO EVER GO BACK AND DO THAT WITHOUT PULLING ALL THIS BACK UP? YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO PULL IT ALL BACK UP.

BECAUSE IF YOU START DOING CARBON GUTTER STORMS OR YOU CAN TALK ABOUT TAKING IT WHAT WEST TO THE END OF MILLER STREET OR SOMETHING TO DUMP IT INTO, IT'S 10.

CORRECT. AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT THROUGH HERE. YEAH.

OK.

SO WHAT DO WE NEED ANY MORE QUESTIONS, IF NOT, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TONIGHT, CHRIS? OH, I LIKE A MOTION TO FUND THIS PROJECT USING THE DESIGNATED NEW SIDEWALK ARPA FUNDING.

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IT'S A LONG WAY OF AROUND A MOTION, BUT WE GOT THERE.

I THINK THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION MOTION JOHN ON THERE.

YOU JUST MAKE IT EASY.

I SAW THAT, BUT CHRIS SAID USED THE ARPA FUND, SO I JUST.

TRY NOT TO ASK FOR MONEY, I'M TRYING TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS OCCASIONALLY.

I UNDERSTAND.

I MADE A MOTION, WE'LL SEE IF ANYBODY SUPPORTS IT.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

LET ME. I DON'T KNOW HOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER OR OK, BUT JOHN, YOU HAVE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT NOT TO EXCEED.

YOU KNOW, THEY DID THEIR BEST GUESS ON WHAT THIS IS GOING TO COST.

CORRECT. BUT WE'RE SUBJECT TO PRICE INCREASES DAILY.

AND I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO COME IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

WE WOULD COME BACK ANYWAYS WITH A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE AMOUNT IN A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION ONCE WE RECEIVE BIDS IS, HEY, THIS KIND OF LIKE WE'RE DOING ON THE THE LIST STATION EIGHT, WE WOULD COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE RECEIVED.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO WE RECOMMEND GOING FORWARD WITH.

I'VE GONE DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE GIVING PEOPLE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, AND I GET BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER BECAUSE TOTALLY THINGS THAT ARE TOTALLY OUT OF OUR ENGINEERS CONTROL.

SO. THAT IS CORRECT.

NOW, JOHN, YOU MENTIONED YOU SAID 183, BUT OUR PACKET SAYS 185.

ARE YOU? SO THAT'S THE NUMBER YOU.

I'M LOOKING AT THE TOTAL OPINION OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ON PAGE 120.

OH, GOT IT. ONE EIGHTY THREE TWO HUNDRED.

AGAIN, WE'LL BRING IT BACK AND WE'LL WE CAN SORT IT OUT FROM THERE.

SO ONCE WE DO THIS PROJECT, IF WE WERE TO DO THIS PROJECT, THEN THAT PROBABLY PRECLUDES ANY FUTURE WORK ON THIS AREA FOR A LONG TIME.

IS TURNING AROUND AND JUST RIPPING IT RIGHT OUT.

ON THE MILLER SIDE, BUT NOT THE PARRISH SIDE.

BECAUSE I THINK I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, I THINK PARRISH NEEDS TO BE SIMILAR TO YOU, TJ.

WRIGHT AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A LONG RANGE GOAL.

I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE RIPPING IT UP FOR THAT.

BECAUSE ALL THE WORK WE'RE DOING IS ON A PRETTY MUCH THE MILLER STREET SIDE.

WHICH ALSO CONNECTS THE SIDEWALK FROM TJ WRIGHT ON THE SOUTH SIDE ACROSS OVER TO OVER TO PARRISH, WHICH HEAD START? HEAD START IS OVER THERE AS WELL.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY TAKING THE SIDEWALK TOWARDS HEAD START.

ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT FILLING IN DITCHES TO [INAUDIBLE] THE SIDEWALK.

ON MILLER STREET, YES.

AND THEN TO FILL IN THE DITCH, WHAT DO YOU DO? PUT A CULVERT IN THERE.

YES, SIR. IT'S SO SHALLOW, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T PUT THE INLETS ON TOP OF THE CULVERTS [INAUDIBLE] TO BE SET OFF TO THE SIDE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE THING.

THIS IS A REAL DIFFICULT LAYOUT JUST DUE TO THE ELEVATIONS.

WE'RE ON THE TOP SIDE OF THE SYSTEM.

CORRECT. AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FALL GOING BACK THE OTHER WAY.

WE SURVEYED IT AND TRIED TO GET AS MUCH FALL AS WE COULD, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

BUT WE GOT ENOUGH DEPTH TO PUT THE PIPE IN TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK OVER THE TOP OF IT.

WE'LL JUST MAKE A CONNECTION IN THROUGH THE SIDE AND THEN HAVE AN INLET ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE'VE MET WITH JEFF AND THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE ONCE YOU FILL THE DITCH, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BIG THE PIPE IS IF YOU FILL THE DITCH IN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE WAY FOR THE WATER, YOU FILL THAT DITCH AND YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE AN INLET TO GET THE WATER INTO THAT PIPE.

HOW DO YOU PROPOSE WE DO THAT? WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE INLETS ONTO THE OUTSIDE AND THEN TIE PIPE IN FROM THE SIDE INTO THE PIPE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE DITCH.

SO IT'S ALL PIPED UNDERGROUND, BUT IT'S JUST NOT ON TOP OF THE SIDEWALK LIKE YOU WOULD SEE NORMALLY.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF YOU EVER DRIVE INTO THOSE INTERSECTIONS RIGHT THERE, A PERSON MAKING A LEFT HAND TURN WILL STOP WILL ALMOST RUN INTO YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE IT, THEY'RE VERY NARROW TURN LANE, SO YOU'LL EITHER GO OFF IN THE DITCH OR YOU'LL HIT THE CAR ON THE SIDE. SO THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE NOT ONLY FOR PEDESTRIANS, BUT FOR AUTO AS WELL.

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JUST TO REMIND, COUNCIL, YOU STILL HAVE THE MOST A MOTIONS THAT'S RIGHT. I WAS TRYING TO GET US BACK, SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE DID GO OFF TO SOME DISCUSSION.

SECOND. WE'LL HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL BOOTH.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE I MEAN, WE KNOW WE HAVE A LOT TO DO IN THIS AREA, BUT THIS IS GETS THAT STARTING POINT FOR US AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT IT'S ALSO GOING TOWARD HEAD START.

SO THAT HELPS OUT WITH MAYBE THOSE MOMS AND DADS [INAUDIBLE] WALKING THEIR KIDDOS TO HEAD START OR WE'RE LEAVING HEAD START GOING ON A FIELD TRIP.

OK? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THESE ARE JUST CONSTRUCTION COST ONLY THEY DON'T SHOW WHAT OUR ENGINEERING FEES OR SURVEYING OR GEOTECHNICAL FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

NO, SIR. THAT WAS ALREADY ON A SEPARATE CONTRACT.

THIS IS JUST WE'RE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT FOR THAT.

OK. THIS IS JUST.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT APPROXIMATELY WHAT THOSE FEES ARE.

I'LL HAVE TO GET THEM, BUT IT IS AN APPROVED CONTRACT THAT UNDERSTANDS THE APPROVED CONTRACT. I LOOK FOR A NUMBER.

I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER RIGHT NOW, OFF TOP OF MY HEAD.

THANK YOU, CECIL. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE POSTS THEY'VE SIGNED, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[12. Discussion and possible action on the lift station and Oyster Creek assessment]

SO SO THIS IS AGAIN, WE CAME TO YOU LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, FUNDED STUDY.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT WE'RE GETTING AFTER LIKE LIFT STATION REHABILITATION RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE'VE DONE TWO.

YEAH, WORKING ON THIRD ONE RIGHT NOW IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OTHER ONES AND OTHER LOCATIONS AND HOW WE REHABILITATE THEM.

SO REALLY, IT'S MORE OF AN UPDATE.

I'M NOT SURE WE'RE LOOKING FOR ACTION.

WE'VE GOT MONEY IN THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THE LIFT STATIONS THAT THANKFULLY Y'ALL HAVE GIVEN US TO DO THAT AND WE'RE MOVING ON.

YEAH, WE'VE BEEN UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE CITY TO DO TWO ASSESSMENTS.

ONE WAS OVER 15 LIST STATIONS.

THE OTHER ONE WAS ACTUALLY THE OYSTER CREEK TREATMENT PLANT.

THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE TRYING TO EXPEDITE THE WHOLE PRESENTATION AND COMBINING THEM TOGETHER TO GET THIS THING GO GOING.

CHRIS [INAUDIBLE] IS PART OF OUR RESOURCES GROUP.

IS HAS BEEN WORKING OUT HERE WITH THE CITY SINCE WE STARTED.

HE'S BEEN HELPING Y'ALL WITH WITH OPERATIONS OF YOUR WATER AND YOUR WASTEWATER PLANTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. HE PERFORMED THE EVALUATION OF THE 15 LIVE STATIONS AND OF THE EXISTING CONDITION AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME POTENTIAL ENERGY COST SAVINGS WITH THAT.

WE'VE GOT A PRESENTATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND DO, AND WITH THAT, I'LL INTRODUCE CHRIS [INAUDIBLE]. GOOD EVENING.

HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES ARE ALL IN GOOD HEALTH.

JASON, YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE THE SLIDES FOR ME, RIGHT? YES SIR.

PERFECT. IF YOU JUST GO TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.

LIKE JOHN SAID, WE WERE SCOPED TO DO AN ASSESSMENT ON THE 15 LIFT STATIONS, NOT ALL OF YOUR LIFT STATIONS, BUT AND ALSO THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

WE WERE ALSO COMPARED THOSE TO TCQ REQUIREMENTS FOR DESIGN.

WE LOOKED AT ALL THAT.

WE DEVELOPED RECOMMENDATIONS COST FOR THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND A SCHEDULE FOR THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND AS IT SAYS ON THE BOTTOM, WE ALSO WERE TASKED WITH DOING AN ENERGY AUDIT AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THESE TWO ASSESSMENTS.

I'M GOING TO REALLY TRY TO BOIL IT DOWN AND GO THROUGH IT.

BUT WE DID TURN OUR REPORT INTO STAFF AND AS YOU HEARD, THEY'VE ALREADY BEGUN WORKING ON SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THERE ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THE 15 LIFT STATIONS WE LOOKED AT THE OYSTER CREEK WASTEWATER PLANT JUST AS A REMINDER, HAS A CAPACITY OF 3.6 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

IT IS AN OLD PLANT.

THERE WERE MAJOR UPGRADES DONE BACK IN 1981 94 AND IN 2006, SO IT'S BEEN 16 YEARS SINCE ANY MAJOR RENOVATIONS HAVE BEEN DONE OUT THERE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE LIFT STATIONS, AND WHEN WE DO A CONDITION ASSESSMENT, THERE'S TWO FACTORS WE DO TO TRY TO PRIORITIZE ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN.

YOU HAVE THE LIKELIHOOD OF FAILURE.

I MEAN, IN THE CONDITION OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS, WE GIVE THAT A SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE, FIVE BEING VERY POOR, ONE BEING VERY GOOD.

THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT WE HAVE THE CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT LIFT STATION WERE TO JUST GO OUT OF SERVICE? IN THAT CASE, FIVE BEING IT'S PRETTY CATASTROPHIC ONE, MEANING BASICALLY NOTHING.

SO WE MULTIPLY THOSE TWO TOGETHER TO GET A CRITICALITY SCORE.

SO YOU CAN SAY FIVE TIMES FIVE MAX SCORE YOU CAN GET MEANING THE WORST SCORE YOU CAN GET

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WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE HERE AND THE FOLLOWING SLIDES NEXT SLIDE.

SO AS WE LOOK THROUGH THE LIFT STATIONS, WE LOOKED AT SIX DIFFERENT CRITERIA.

YOU CAN SEE THEM ON THE SCREEN THERE.

WE LOOKED AT THE WET WELL, THE PUMPS, THE GENERATOR, PIPING ELECTRICAL AND THE SITE, AND WE GAVE EACH ONE OF THOSE A SCORE FROM ONE TO FIVE AND WE DID A WEIGHTED AVERAGE.

THE PERCENTAGES YOU SEE ON THERE ARE THE PERCENT OF EACH ONE OF THOSE THAT HAVE A FOUR OR FIVE, MEANING THEY'RE IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

YOU CAN SEE THE PIPING HAS A THIRD OF THE STATIONS ARE IN REALLY BAD SHAPE AND THE THIRD OF THE STATIONS HAVE BAD ELECTRICAL.

THE SITE AND THE WET WELLS ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

SO JUST TO SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE WITH THE PUMPS, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE PUMPS.

ON THE BOTTOM IS EACH ONE OF THOSE 15 LIFT STATIONS.

THE THE TALLER THE BAR, THE WORSE THE SCORE.

SO YOU CAN ON THE LEFT, YOU START AT LIFT STATION FIVE, THEN IT GOES SEVEN EIGHT.

IT'S A NUMERICAL ORDER AND YOU CAN SEE THAT REALLY FIVE, SEVEN AND EIGHT.

THE PUMPS ARE IN THE WORST SHAPE.

WE DID THAT FOR THE WET WELLS, ELECTRICAL, ET CETERA.

NEXT SLIDE. NOW, THIS IS THE IMPORTANT SLIDE FOR THE CONDITION OF THE LIFT STATIONS, WHEN YOU PUT ALL THE NUMBERS TOGETHER, THOSE THREE BARS ON THE LEFT SIDE, THOSE ARE THE WORST SCORES, MEANING THAT THOSE STATIONS ARE IN THE WORST CONDITION.

THOSE ARE LIVE STATIONS FIVE, SEVEN AND EIGHT.

CAN I INTERRUPT REAL QUICK? YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LIFT STATION EIGHT IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR YOU.

OK. OK, PERFECT.

YES, SIR. THIS IS WHERE IS FIVE, SEVEN AND EIGHT.

JUST SO I KNOW WHAT PART OF TOWN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

FIVE IS THE ONE THAT'S OFF ERSKINE AND PLUM IS THE OLD HAS THE CINDER BLOCK GOING AROUND IT.

OK. I KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT AND FEEL FREE TO BREAK IN WITH QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THIS, LIKE I SAID, I'M TRYING TO BOIL THIS DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT GOES FAIRLY QUICK.

WE LOOK AT CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE, THE LIFT STATIONS THAT THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY THE MOST CATASTROPHIC IF THEY WERE TO GO DOWN OUR SEVEN AND EIGHT AGAIN.

YOU SEE THOSE COMING UP AND THEN ALSO LIFT STATION 27 MEANS THEY'RE THE BIGGEST LIFT STATIONS HAVE THE MOST FLOW GOING THROUGH THEM.

TWENTY SEVEN. JEFF.

TWENTY SEVEN IS WHERE? GIVE ME ROOM. SO, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, OK.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, JASON.

ALL RIGHT. SO ONCE YOU DO THE MULTIPLICATION, YOU LOOK EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

THIS SLIDE WILL SHOW YOU THE PRIORITIES OF THE LIFT STATION'S UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.

YOU CAN SEE PRIORITY ONE.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT LIFT STATION SEVEN AND EIGHT BE ADDRESSED FIRST.

THE MIDDLE ONCE YOU CAN SEE THE LIST OF PRIORITY TWOS AND THEN IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND SIDE PRIORITY THREE, YOU CAN SEE THOSE FIVE LIFT STATIONS.

THERE ARE 10 11 TWENTY SIX POINT THIRTY SEVEN TO FORTY FOUR.

OK. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT SOME COMMON ISSUES WE SAW AS WE WENT AROUND TO THESE LIVE STATIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS A SCADA SYSTEM.

THE CITY HAS ALREADY BEGUN PUTTING SOME SOME SCADA SYSTEMS IN AT SOME OF THESE LIFT STATIONS. WHEN WE DID THIS LAST YEAR, THERE WERE NO SCADA SYSTEMS IN PLACE, SO THEY'VE BEGUN ON THAT.

AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT EACH LIFT STATION HAVE A SCADA SYSTEM.

THAT WAY, IF THERE'S HIGH LEVEL ALARMS, THE POWER GOES OUT THAT ALARM GOES IMMEDIATELY TO THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING AND YOU CAN ADDRESS IT BEFORE IT OVERFLOWS AND BECOMES A VIOLATION. AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE, WE SAW SIX OF THE LIFT STATIONS, TCQ DOES HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THESE LIFT STATIONS BE ENCLOSED TO KEEP PUBLIC OUT VANDALISM, VANDALISM DOWN.

AND YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES HERE.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THERE BE SOME KIND OF ENCLOSURE CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS AS A CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH SOME BARBED WIRE ON TOP.

AND THIS ONE, I THINK IS THE PROBABLY THE THE MOST COMMON AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMONALITY AMONG A LOT OF THESE LIVE STATIONS ARE ABOVE GROUND.

THEY CALL GORMAN ROUGH. IT'S THE BRAND NAME OF THE PUMPS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT THERE LIFT STATION TWENTY FOUR.

IT'S ABOVE GROUND, IT'S GOT A MOTOR THAT THAT'S DRIVEN BY A BELT AND A PULLEY.

AND AS WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT AT THE END OF THE USEFUL LIFE OF THESE THESE PUMPS, WE

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YOU CAN SEE AN EXAMPLE OF ONE ON THE RIGHT WHERE IT'S JUST LOW PROFILE, NO TEMPTATION TO VANDALS TO COME AND STEAL COPPER WIRE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AT ONCE AGAIN, AS THE PUMPS USEFUL FOR LIFE IS EXPIRED.

I MEAN, THE EFFICIENCIES OF THE SUBMERSIBLES ARE MUCH BETTER THAN.

THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S ONE CORRECT.

AND THEN THE LAST COMMONALITY IS BACKUP POWER.

WHAT THIS IS SAYING HERE YOU HAVE SIX LIFT STATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE A GENERATOR AND THEY DON'T HAVE A QUICK CONNECT.

SO A QUICK CONNECT MEANS YOU CAN BRING A PORTABLE GENERATOR OUT THERE AND BASICALLY JUST PLUG IT IN. THERE'S NO HARD WIRING, NO NO CHANCE OF GETTING ELECTROCUTED.

AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT FOR THOSE STATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE A GENERATOR, THAT THEY HAVE AN ELECTRICAL QUICK CONNECT ON THEIR.

THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ.

IT IS IN THE IN THE REPORT, BUT THAT THE GRAPHIC ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE LARGEST COST INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING DOWN TO THE LOWEST ONE.

BUT OVERALL, OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS, WE'RE LOOKING AT INVESTMENTS OF FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. THAT DOES INCLUDE INFLATION.

IT'S ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION.

THREE PERCENT. YEAH, EXACTLY.

AND I CAN'T MENTION THAT ALL THESE COST ESTIMATES THAT WE HAVE HERE, AS DEBORAH WAS SAYING, AT THIS LEVEL, THERE ARE STILL PRELIMINARY.

SO WE USE WHAT WE CALL A CLASS FOUR COST ESTIMATE, WHICH MEANS PLUS 40 PERCENT MINUS 30 PERCENT. SO IT'S REALLY A 40 PERCENT CONTINGENCY IN THERE.

AND THEN WE ADDED A 10 PERCENT VOLATILITY FACTOR.

YOU KNOW HOW COMMODITIES ARE JUST GOING CRAZY THESE DAYS? YES. SO ALL THESE COSTS REALLY HAVE LIKE A 50 PERCENT CONTINGENCY IN THERE.

AND IT DOES INCLUDE ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION, MANAGEMENT, EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE LIFT STATION SEVEN IS THE BIGGEST TWENTY SEVEN, FORTY FOUR EIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THERE. THOSE ARE THE FIVE LARGEST RECOMMENDED INVESTMENTS THAT ARE THERE. ARE THEY PRIORITIZED BY IMPACT AS WELL? YES, THEY ARE. IS THAT JUST IN TOTAL DOLLARS? THAT'S TOTAL DOLLARS, RIGHT FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE.

AND THEN THE SCHEDULE ON THOSE THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YOU CAN SEE SEVEN AND EIGHT THERE.

AND THOSE ARE THE PRIORITY ONES.

YEAH, BUT SOME OF THEM MAY NEED BIG INVESTMENTS JUST LATER ON.

THEY MAY NOT BE AS URGENT.

GO BACK.

LET'S SEE ONE PRIOR TO THAT.

AND THERE'S THE SCHEDULE, WE TRY TO EVEN THINGS OUT THAT THE NO ON THE LEFT, A LITTLE ONE OR SOME IMMEDIATE QUICK FIXES THAT REALLY AREN'T THAT SERIOUS COULD BE FENCING COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THE SECOND COLUMN IS YEARS ONE TO FIVE THIRD COLUMN IS YEAR SIX TO 10 AND A FOURTH COLUMN IS 11 TO 15.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THEY'RE SPREAD OUT.

WE TRIED TO SPREAD THEM OUT TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE PALATABLE FOR THE CITY.

SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO DO EVENTUALLY IS LOOK AT OUR LIVE STATIONS OVERALL.

SO LIKE [INAUDIBLE] STARTED WITH 96 LIFT STATIONS AND THEY'RE DOWN TO 60 SOME.

AND SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW THE FLOW WORKS AND WHICH ONES ARE PRIORITY.

AND THERE MAY BE SOME.

YOU KNOW, YOU SPEND SOME MONEY BY BYPASSING ONE AND YOU TAKE A LIFT STATION OR TWO OR THREE OR SOMETHING OUT OF SERVICE AT SOME POINT.

CORRECT. SO SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE IN THAT THAT TALL COLUMN IN YEARS, ONE THRU FIVE.

ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S THAT'S THE LIFT STATIONS, ANY QUESTIONS ON LIFT STATIONS BEFORE I GO TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT? OK. I DON'T KNOW HOW I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A WHOLE WHOLE LOT OF TIME, BUT THE LIFT STATIONS SEVEN AND EIGHT.

WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL, IT'S THE WORST NIGHTMARE THAT YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE TO GOING DOWN INTO THOSE THINGS, YOU CAN EXPECT TO RECONSTRUCT THEM OR ARE YOU GOING TO? YES, WE HAD WE HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS CONVERT THOSE TWO SUBMERSIBLE LIFT STATIONS BECAUSE GOING DOWN INTO A DRY WELL.

IT GETS A LITTLE.

I DON'T SEE HOW THEY WORKED ON THOSE THINGS.

EXACTLY. YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET GOING TO TRY TO TRY TO STAY WITH THE SAME STRUCTURE OR. OK.

YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, THAT WE GOT BIDS ON HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF ITEMS. THAT'S NOT DOING THIS STUFF.

THIS IS JUST EMERGENCY REPAIR TO WHERE WE'VE GOT TO REPLACE THIS STORM, THE SANITARY

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AND WHEN WE GO AND TIE IN TO THE LIFT STATION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHIP OUT THE OLD PIPE. THE WALLS ARE SO BAD THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO WALL LINING TO KEEP THE STRUCTURE SOUND.

BUT THE OTHER REPAIRS WILL BE ON THERE.

SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS EVENING THAT IT'S NOT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED.

THIS IS JUST EMERGENCY REPAIR.

GET TO THAT.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

YEAH, THAT GIVE YOU SOME VOLUME THAT YOU NEED.

YEAH, WE'VE DONE SOME STORM WATER FARMS. BUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS OVER THERE, BUT IF SECTION SEVEN IS GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY OVER THERE, WE'VE GOT FIVE TO SEVEN LIFT ONE THERE, EVEN EIGHT PUMPS THERE.

SO THAT STATION RUNNING? YEAH. NO SURPRISE IT.

FOUR IS ONE OF THE ONES YOU'RE REDOING.

ALSO ABOUT THERE, ABOUT THE FREEWAY BEHIND HERE, TWO JOKES, THE ONE ON THE FREEWAY BEHIND THEIR TWO JOKES. OH, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. I'VE ALREADY REDONE THE PUMPS.

OKAY. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH NUMBER ONE.

ALL RIGHT. OK.

YES, SIR. WE WENT BACK TO THE ARTICLE.

HOW GOOD WE ARE IN THE PROCESS AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF MONEY.

YES, SIR. SO WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIFT STATIONS, YOU KNOW, SO AGAIN, THINK ABOUT THE END OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.

WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN ARP FOR LIFT STATIONS.

AND SO MAYBE, IF WE TACKLE THE NEXT ITEM ABOUT FIXING THE LINE INTO IT AGAIN, MAYBE WE REDO LIFT STATION EIGHT, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE LIFT STATIONS.

ONE OF THE CHEAPER ONES, TOO.

I'M SORRY. IT'S ONE OF THE CHEAPER ONES.

WELL, THAT TOO, RIGHT? YEAH.

TIGHT FIT OVER THERE, NOT MUCH ROOM TO WORK.

GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY. NO PROBLEM.

I'M SORRY THAT I DIDN'T QUITE HEAR IT.

WAS THAT A QUESTION OR JUST GOING TO COME IN AT EIGHT IS A TIGHT FIT OVER THERE.

THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM TO WORK IN IT, CORRECT? SEVEN AND EIGHT DESIGNS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

SO YEAH, THEY'RE BOTH VERY, VERY SIMILAR.

WELL, SAME APPROACH ON BOTH OF THOSE.

OK. ALL RIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

SAME APPROACH, BUT THE LIKELIHOOD OF FAILURE, WE DIDN'T DO THOSE SIX BOXES, WE EVALUATED EACH PROCESS AREA, EACH PART OF THE PLANT BASED ON WHAT IT WHAT ITS FUNCTION IS.

AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WHAT THIS GOING THROUGH ALL THE NUMBERS AND BRINGING IT DOWN THE THREE AREAS THAT NEED THE MOST ATTENTION. I CALL IT THE WORST AREAS BY FAR IS THE INFLUENT LIFT STATION, FOLLOWED BY THE HEAD WORKS.

AND STORM WATER PUMP STATION, BUT AS YOU HEARD BEFORE, THE HEAD WORKS ARE BEING REDONE RIGHT NOW, SO THAT THAT PROBABLY WILL NOT BE AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE IF YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING JOHN WRIGHT AND THOSE ITEMS THAT CHRIS HAS IDENTIFIED AS THE WORST WAS THE ONES THAT WE WENT OUT FOR GRANTS ON OR THE $12 MILLION AT THE TREATMENT PLANT.

SO WE WE WE ARE TRYING TO PHYSICALLY ADDRESS THOSE.

THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND WE'VE REACHED OUT AND TRY TO GET FUNDING TO ADDRESS THOSE.

BUT THE MS. STATION STATION IS VERY DANGEROUS.

YEAH. AND SO IF YOU GO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THE CONSEQUENCE AT A WASTEWATER PLANT, ALMOST EVERYTHING, IF IT FAILS, THE PLANT DOESN'T TREAT HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO TREAT.

SO CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE, YOU WON'T SEE ANYTHING LESS THAN THE THREE THERE.

THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME SCORE.

SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS THE SAME KIND OF CHART AS YOU SAW THE LIFT STATION'S UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. THE MORE SERIOUS ONES, RED ORANGE IS A LITTLE BIT LESS, BUT.

OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADDRESS THESE FOUR AREAS IN ORDER.

INFLUENT LIFT STATION, THE AERATION, SITE ELECTRICAL AND THE BLOWER BUILDING.

IF YOU GO TO NEXT SLIDE, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE INFLUENT LIFT STATION.

IT IS BY FAR.

WELL, IT'S IN DIRE.

IT'S IN DIRE CONDITION RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, IN MY 30 YEARS, THAT CONCRETE IN THERE IS SOME OF THE WORST I'VE SEEN.

AND I WOULD CONSIDER IT A SAFETY HAZARD, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

TWO OF THE PUMPS ARE OVER 40 YEARS OLD AND AT THAT TIME, WE'RE NOT WORKING AND THERE'S

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SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS REPLACED WITH A BRAND NEW INFLUENT LIFT STATION.

OK. THE BUMP SAYS BEEN CORRECT.

SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FORTY SIX POINT EIGHT MILLION OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS. ONCE AGAIN, REMEMBER THE 40 PERCENT, 50 PERCENT CONTINGENCY AND THE INFLATION.

A LOT OF MONEY. SO A LOT OF MONEY.

AND WE GO, HERE'S A LIST OF THEM, BUT I'M GOING TO GO, I HAVE SOME FOLLOWING SLIDES, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE IN MORE DETAIL.

SO WE GOT WE GOT FIVE DIFFERENT PACKAGES AND WE TRIED TO SPREAD THESE THINGS OUT.

SO THE FIRST PACKAGE IS A FULL REPLACEMENT OF THE INFLUENT LIFT STATION, THE ASSOCIATED ELECTRICAL MCC BUILDING OPERATOR, BUILDING A SITE LIGHTING AND THEN ALSO UPSIZE THE INFLUENT WASTE WATER PIPES.

ELECTRICAL IS ALMOST 10 YEARS BEYOND ITS DESIGN LIFE FOR THE WHOLE FACILITY.

SO THAT'S TEN POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. TWO YEARS AFTER THAT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST OF THREE PACKAGES FOR SECONDARY TREATMENT, SO YOU HEARD BEFORE ABOUT THE DIFFUSERS AND THE DIFFUSER PIPING FROM SCHNEIDER. THAT'S PART OF THIS.

AUTOMATE A LOT OF VALVES PUT DISSOLVED OXYGEN METERS FOR BETTER PROCESS CONTROL AND ENERGY MANAGEMENT, ET CETERA.

SO THERE'S AND A NEW BLOWER BUILDING.

OK. LOT THERE, PACKAGE THREE, THIS ONE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE STORM WATER PUMP STATION, IT NEEDS IT. IT CAN WAIT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THE PIPING DOES CUT THROUGH THE LEVEE THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE REHAB OR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE OUTFALL PIPE TO THE RIVER. FOURTH PACKAGE, OFTEN YEAR TWENTY TWENTY NINE.

THERE'S SOME MISCELLANEOUS HEAD WORKS IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE DONE. AND THEN THERE'S THE RETURN PUMPS, THE WASTE PUMPS ON THE CLARIFIERS, THERE'S REPLACING THE CLARIFIER DRIVES AND NUMEROUS VALVES HARDWARE.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK ON THE CLARIFIERS AND THE PUMPS FROM THOSE CLARIFIERS IN THIS.

IN THIS PACKAGE HERE, THAT'S TWELVE POINT NINE MILLION.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN FINALLY, PACKAGE FIVE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOLIDS TREATMENT.

YOU HEARD A LOT OF TALK FROM SNYDER ABOUT THE DIGESTERS, AND THOSE WERE GREAT IDEAS.

THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS REPLACE THE WHOLE DIGESTER AND GRAVITY THAT USED TO BE THE WASTE WATER PLANT PRIOR TO 1981.

SO THAT CONCRETE THERE IS 50, 60, 70 YEARS OLD.

IF YOU THINK IN ANOTHER ANOTHER 10 YEARS, IT'S IT'S IT'S TIME TO BE REPLACED.

AND THERE CAN BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS MADE IN THE EFFICIENCIES ON HOW THAT IS OPERATED AS WELL, AND THEN DISINFECTION AND CLOSE THE CHLORINE AND SULFUR DIOXIDE AREA AND REPLACE THE PIPING AND CONDUIT.

OK. ENERGY OPTIMIZATION, I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME SIMILARITIES HERE WITH WHAT DEBORAH WAS TALKING ABOUT AND DAVID WAS SCHNEIDER HISTORICAL ELECTRICAL USAGE.

IT IS ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND A YEAR.

AND I ZOOM IN IN JASON AND THEN THE ENERGY INTENSITY KILOWATT HOURS PER MILLION GALLONS.

I THINK YOU FOCUS ON THAT FOUR, SEVEN, THREE SIX NUMBER IN THE RIGHT HAND CORNER, THAT'S ABOUT HOW MANY KILOWATT HOURS PER MILLION GALLONS ARE USED.

WHAT'S INTERESTING, AS THE FLOW DROPPED, THE ENERGY USE STAYED THE SAME AND THERE PROBABLY SEVERAL REASONS FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT SLIDE. CAN YOU GIVE US A REASON WHY? I THINK, WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, AERATION IS THE BIGGEST USER BY FAR BETWEEN AERATING THE AERATION BASIN, THE DIGESTER AND THE CHLORINE CONTACT CHAMBER.

IT'S JUST TURN IT ON AND LET IT GO.

BUT THERE WASN'T A MAJOR CHANGE IN OPERATION OR PROCESS BETWEEN 19 TO 20.

THE PROCESS STAY THE SAME.

NO CHANGES. YEAH, THE FLOW DROPPED.

I THINK SOME OF THAT WAS INFLUENCED BY HURRICANES AND EXCESS FLOW AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IN GENERAL, THE WAS ABOUT THE SAME.

ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WE CAME UP WITH EIGHT DIFFERENT POTENTIAL ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES ONCE AGAIN, I THINK YOU SEE SOME OVERLAP WITH SCHNEIDER.

SO REPLACE THE DIFFUSERS AND THE HEADER SYSTEM.

OUR ESTIMATE WAS MUCH LOWER THAN THAN SCHNEIDER'S.

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THEY'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE.

I'M AN OPERATOR AS MUCH AS I AM AN ENGINEER, SO THE NUMBER WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THAT NUMBER AND THE $80000 THAT YOU SAW ON THE SCHNEIDER.

AND THEN IN THE TO REDUCE THE AERATION IN THE CHLORINE CONTACT CHAMBER, PUT MIXTURES IN THERE INSTEAD OF THAT.

AND THEN. THE DIGESTER BLOWER DOES NOT HAVE TO RUN TWENTY FOUR SEVEN.

OPERATE IT TWO THIRDS OF THE TIME, SAVE A BUNCH OF MONEY AND YOU GET YOU GET SOME GOOD SETTLING AND DECANTING GOING ON THERE.

NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE KIND OF SMALLER ONES, BUT PUT VFD IS ON THE INFLUENT PUMPS WHEN THAT INFLUENT LIFT STATION IS REPLACED.

PUT VFD IS ON ALL THE PUMPS.

THE GRID OPERATIONS.

THE GRIT PUMP, YOU DON'T HAVE TO OPERATE AT TWENTY FOUR SEVEN.

AND THE SAME THING WAS FOR THE GRIT BLOWER.

BUT WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT BECAUSE IT WILL IMPACT THE EFFICIENCY OF TREATMENT AND THEN FINALLY CHANGE ALL THE LIGHTS TO LED.

YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT FROM SCHNEIDER AS WELL.

SO I THINK OVERALL, I THINK OUR NUMBER WAS LIKE TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR IN ENERGY SAVINGS, PROBABLY MORE WITH THAT DIFFUSER ESTIMATE.

LIKE I SAY, WE WERE EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE ON THAT.

OK. I THINK THAT'S A LOT WE WENT THROUGH.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

SO JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, I KNOW VFD IS A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHAT IS [INAUDIBLE] HERE? YES, IT'S A VARIABLE SPEED DRIVE, SO IT CHANGES THE THE HURTS ON THE ON THE MOTOR VARIABLE FREQUENCY. YEAH, BUT I SAID WHAT I SAY, THE MOTORS RAMP UP IN VERY REAL FREQUENCY. I'M SORRY. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVES SPEEDS AND SLOWS DOWN THE PUMPS AS IT'S NEEDED.

OTHERWISE I JUST RUN INTO CONSTANT SPEED ALL THE TIME.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION, AND I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO JOHN, REALLY THE STUDY THAT HDR DID FOR US.

WHAT A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED OUT THERE AND YOU GAVE US A TOTAL COST OF I WANT TO SAY, WHAT WAS IT, 60, 60 MILLION? WHAT WAS A TOTAL OF ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION? WAS THIS INCLUDED IN THEIR? I'M FROM HOW HOW CLOSE ARE THESE NUMBERS TO WHAT HDR''S LAST STUDY SAID? THE LAST STUDY THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS I DON'T REMEMBER US EVER DOING A COMPLETE PLANT LOOK AT. IT WASN'T REALLY THE PLANT, IT WAS THE WASTEWATER IN GENERAL.

YEAH, WE JUST KIND OF. OH NO.

OKAY. YEAH, THAT WAS THAT WAS MORE OF THE COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT THAT BIG NUMBER WAS WAS ALL THE PIPE IN THE COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT WE'RE EITHER TRUST PIPE, CLAY PIPE, EVERYTHING IT GETS IT TO THERE THAT GETS IT TO THERE IT WAS.

SO THIS NUMBER IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT.

ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS.

NOW THAT WAS PART OF THE GRANT FUNDING THAT WE WENT AFTER, WHICH WAS LIKE 13 MILLION WAS THE BLOWER BUILDING THE DIFFUSERS, THE BLOWERS, THE MCCS, THE YEAH, THE INFLUENT LIST STATION, THE UPSIZING OF THE PIPE.

Y'ALL HAVE UPSIZED EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE LEVY COMING TO THE PLANT.

BUT THE ACTUAL PIPES INSIDE THE PLANT ARE STILL SMALLER.

YOU HAVE BIGGER PIPE BRINGING FLOW INTO THE PLANT WITH SMALLER PIPE TAKING IT TO THE LIST STATION. SO WE WANTED SO THAT WAS THE STUFF THAT WE LOOKED AT TO TO TO DO WITH THE GRANTS THAT WE WENT AFTER WAS WAS THAT 13, 13? I THINK 13 SOMETHING MILLION.

I WAS JUST I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THE FORTY SEVEN MILLION HERE AND SEE IF ANY OF THIS CORRELATES WITH WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US BEFORE.

SO WE'RE SAYING WE'RE IN FOR MORE THAN JUST WHAT WE'VE SAID BEFORE.

RIGHT. I THINK YOU SET US UP CORRECTLY BY GIVING US THE LIFT STATIONS FIRST BECAUSE THEY WERE SMALLER DOLLARS COMPARED TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, BECAUSE NOW THERE'S NOTHING LESS THAN ONE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS ON YOUR SUGGESTIONS ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. LET ME ASK YOU THIS HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO BUILD A NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT ALTOGETHER? WHAT'S THE RUNNING TOTAL RIGHT NOW? JOHN, I MAY I MAY DEFER TO YOU BECAUSE MY I'M MORE OF AN OPERATOR AND WHATEVER I THINK IT'S GOING TO COST, USUALLY COST A LOT MORE.

SO, YEAH. IT.

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IT MAY BE 20 TO 40 MILLION.

PART OF THE ISSUE IS YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP THIS PLANT RUNNING.

WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING THAT PLANT, SO YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT IN PHASES, YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT IN PHASES AND YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT INSIDE THE LEVEE, OR YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND REBUILD ANOTHER LEVEE FOR PROTECTION OF WHERE THAT PLANT IS BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S ALREADY COMING TO THAT AREA. SURE.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER HOW HARD OR HOW DIFFICULT ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT IS TRYING TO GET THEIR LEVEES CERTIFIED, YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS.

NOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IS ANYWHERE, AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SOIL.

SO I MEAN, IT CAN GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT IT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 20 TO 40 DOLLARS A GALLON.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT'S GOING TO BE 50 SOMETHING, 60 SOMETHING MILLION TO PUT A BRAND NEW ONE. WELL, WE'RE NOT FAR OFF FROM IT.

SO WE'RE WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ALMOST REBUILDING THIS THING.

PIECE BY PIECE.

CORRECT. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TRYING TO COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. WE HOPE THE HOPE FOR IT WOULD SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY.

YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER PLANT THAT'LL GO 50 YEARS, YOU HAVE TO TOUCH IT AGAIN.

OTHER THAN ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND OVERSIMPLIFYING IT, MOST OF THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS BEING REPLACED AND PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, TWO THIRDS OF THE STRUCTURAL THE CONCRETE WILL STAY. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOUR AERATION BASINS, YOUR CLASSIFIERS, THAT WILL LAST.

WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REPLACING THOSE.

SURE. BUT.

JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE, I MEAN, IT'S MOST OF IT'S 30, 40 YEARS OLD.

MM HMM. AND IT'S JUST IT'S A HARSH ENVIRONMENT.

OH, YEAH. WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SEWER THAT COMES IN AT THE BIG BROTHER PLANT IS THE MOST ACCURATE PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S EATEN UP YOUR SYSTEM WHEN IT FIRST GETS THERE, AS IT STARTS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BEING TREATED, IT MELLOWS OUT SO YOU DON'T RUIN THE CONCRETE AS BAD AS YOU DO. CORRECT.

UP FRONT. YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK WE'VE JUST BEEN FORTUNATE, JOHN, THAT IT'S LASTED AS WELL AS IT HAS UNDER THE CONDITIONS, I MEAN, BECAUSE I'M GOING THROUGH MY HEAD, CATASTROPHIC FAILURE, WHAT HAPPENS? YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE GO? SO KNOCK ON WOOD, WE DON'T GET TO THAT POINT, BUT I JUST THINK OF THAT.

WE ALL HAVE SHOVELS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR. SO CHRIS, IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED OFF OF THIS LINE ITEM IS JUST MORE FOR DISCUSSION.

I THINK EYE OPENING, I THINK I OPEN EVERYONE'S EYES, OK? I THINK PROBABLY ON LIFT STATION EIGHT, THAT'S KNOW WE'VE GOT FUNDING FOR IT.

WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET AFTER THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF OUR MOST CRITICAL LIFT STATIONS. OK, WELL, THEN THEY'LL MOVE US INTO ITEM NUMBER 13, DISCUSSION AND

[13. Discussion and possible action on a bid proposal for lift station 8 and gravity sanitary sewer rehabilitation.]

YES. PREVIOUSLY, THE COLLECTION SYSTEM GOING INTO LIFT STATION EIGHT COLLAPSED A FAIRLY LARGE SECTION, AND WITH LIFT STATION EIGHT, YOU SAW THE CRITICALITY OF OF WHAT IT IS.

STAFF HAD TO MOVE VERY QUICKLY, GO GET A CONTRACTOR AND TO GO AND FIX THE ACTUAL JUST THE FAILURE. THE PIPE MATERIAL IS CALLED A TRUST PIPE.

IT'S NOT A VERY GOOD, STABLE PIPE.

IT WAS THE BEST MATERIAL AT THE TIME WHEN WHEN EVERYBODY CAME OUT, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE THE NEW WAY OF DOING IT WAS THAT TRUST PIPE, BUT ACTUALLY JUST IT JUST DOESN'T HOLD UP VERY WELL.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THERE, REPLACE THAT TRUST PIPE DOWN TO THE NEXT MANHOLE, WHAT YOU GIVE YOU A FULL SECTION, PASS THAT MANHOLE, YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD. SO IT'D BE EVERYTHING COMING INTO LIFT STATION RIGHT AT THAT POINT WILL BE NEW.

IT'LL ALSO BE BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE THE PIPE THAT'S UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK.

WE'LL HAVE TO REPLACE THE SIDEWALKS.

WE'LL HAVE TO PUT A COUPLE OF INLETS IN THE CURRENTLY.

RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A GIANT SINKHOLE RIGHT IN FRONT OF LIFT STATION WHERE THERE IS A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES UP IN THERE FOR MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE AND STUFF.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE MANHOLE.

THE MANHOLE IS IN BAD SHAPE, WILL REPLACE THAT MANHOLE, AND WE'LL ALSO REPLACE THE PIPE GOING INTO THE LIFT STATION.

WHEN I POP THE LID OF THE LIFT STATION AND LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF THE INSIDE OF THE WET WELLS AND THE DRY WELL, THE AGE OF THE LIST STATION, YOU CAN TELL THE GASES HAVE STARTED EATING ON THE STRUCTURE.

DO WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPOSED AGGREGATE THE STATION BEFORE IT GETS COMPROMISED AND BEFORE WE KNOCK A HOLE IN IT AND RECONNECT THIS PIPE? WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO SAVE THAT STRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY IF WE PLAN ON USING IT

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SO THIS PROJECT WENT OUT TO BID.

WE SENT IT OUT TO LIKE SEVEN CONTRACTORS.

WE ONLY GOT TWO BIDS BACK.

IT'S JUST THE BIDDING ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW WITH EVERYBODY, HOW BUSY EVERYBODY IS. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AROUND ABOUT $300000.

THE BASE BID CAME IN TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY SIX THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND SO RIGHT ABOUT WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD COME IN AT.

I DO HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL CONTINGENCY IN THERE FOR FORTY ONE THOUSAND IN CASE WE RUN INTO DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT WE THINK WE MAY SEE THAT SEE.

I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND ESTABLISH A UNIT PRICE NOW BEFORE WE NEED IT TO WHERE IT'LL BE CHEAPER ON THE CITY. IT'S MORE EFFICIENT TO GO AHEAD AND ESTABLISH THE PRICE UNDER OUR BIDDING CONDITIONS.

SO WITH THAT, WE RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD, PROCEED FORWARD WITH RTI, WHO WAS THE PART WHO WAS THE COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY DID THE REPAIR WHEN THE TRUSS PIPE COLLAPSED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

THEY KNOW THE AREA, THEY KNOW HOW DEEP IT IS.

THEY KNOW THE WATER CONDITIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING INTO.

WE DO HAVE BUDGET FOR ALL THAT, FOR A NOT TO SET AMOUNT OF THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS AGAIN, FORTY ONE THOUSAND OF THAT.

IT'S GOING TO BE SUPPLEMENTAL THAT HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO GET INTO.

I GUESS BEFORE JOHN ASKED THE QUESTION, WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? THE ARP FUNDING HAS $500000 DESIGNATED.

HOW MUCH? FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.

IN PART, US GETTING THE NOTIFICATION OF WHAT WE WERE GETTING HAD WE EARMARKED THAT MONEY, YET IT WAS JUST SITTING OUT THERE AND SO WE.

SO YOU ALL PRIORITIZE IT, PUT OUT CHUNKS OF MONEY, NOT KNOWING THAT, KNOWING THAT WE NEED THINGS TO DO.

THIS CAME UP. AND SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

MY NEXT ACTION WILL BE TO BRING BACK LIFT STATION EIGHT SO THAT WE FIX THE PIPING AND DO THE LIFT STATION AND FIX THAT WHOLE PROBLEM.

SO THIS DOESN'T GET US A NEW THIS DOES NOT REPAIR LIFT STATION 8, ONLY REPAIRS THE LINES TO IT? IT'S THE SIX HUNDRED FEET FROM THE LIFT STATION UP TO THE MANHOLE THERE TO THE MANHOLE AND INTO THE LIFT STATION.

NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO IN AND REALIGN THE LIST STATION, SO WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THE STRUCTURE BACK UP.

SO IT IS A PORTION OF WHAT CHRIS CHRIS'S COST WAS IN THERE BECAUSE OF THE THE CONDITION.

SO IT IS GOING TO BUILD THE THICKNESSES OF THE WALLS BACK UP WITH A PRODUCT CALLED SUPER COAT. THAT IS A IT IS A CEMENTITIOUS LINER THAT IS CORROSIVE, RESISTANT.

IT'S GOT SPECIAL CHEMICALS IN IT THAT KEEP IT FROM BEING ATE UP AS FAST.

I MEAN, IT'S STILL GOING TO GET IT'S A HARSH ENVIRONMENT, IT'S STILL GOING TO DO IT, BUT IT'S GOT SOME TREATMENT INTO IT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD THE WALLS, HOPEFULLY, AND GET THIS THING TO WHERE THE STATION IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND.

AND THIS IS TONIGHT.

YOU CAN KNOCK OFF THREE HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND OFF TO 60 MILLION THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. NO, HE CAN'T.

IT'S ONLY A PORTION OF IT LIKE THE WAY YOU'RE AN OPTIMIST.

I'LL TRY TO BE SIR. I'LL TRY TO HELP JOHN.

I DON'T WANT HIM STOP BREATHING OVER HERE.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

SORRY, WE HAVE TO MAKE LIGHT OF THE SITUATION.

IT'S A LOT OF MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. I GUESS, REALLY, WHAT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT'S THE WHAT'S LEFT? I MEAN, ON THIS, THIS DOESN'T REALLY THE FOUR HUNDRED FORTY THREE THOUSAND THAT WAS IN YOUR NUMBER IS PROBABLY THIS IS ONLY PROBABLY A SLIGHT FRACTION OF THAT LIFT STATION.

AND SO, JOHN, ARE WE TALKING ANOTHER 200000 TO REPAIR THE LIFT STATION? THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND? PROBABLY.

PROBABLY, PROBABLY RIGHT AROUND THERE, JOHN, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT REPLACING ANY OF THE PIPING. WE'RE NOT REPLACING ANY OF THE PUMPS, WE'RE NOT REPLACING ANY OF THE ELECTRICAL PANEL. WE ARE ADJUSTING THE ELECTRICAL PANEL BECAUSE WHERE THE ELECTRICAL PANEL POLE IS, YOU CAN'T OPEN THE GATE TO GET IN UP IN THE FRONT.

SO FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND WORK, WE'VE GOT TO MOVE THAT POLE.

MOVE THAT POLE OVER WHICH WE FOUND A PLACE FOR IT, SO WE'RE JUST MOVING IT OVER.

BUT YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO UPSIZE OR REDO THE PUMPS TO SUBMERSIBLE PUMPS, REDO THE PIPING, REDO THE CONNECTIONS AND ALSO THE SCADA.

AND THAT WAS A FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE THOUSAND OR WHATEVER.

CORRECT. YEAH. CONVERTING THE DRY WELL TO A WET WELL ALSO WIN THIS ONE.

YES. THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU WOULD DO THAT.

SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO LEAVE IT ALONE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THERE'S ALREADY.

WE'RE GOING TO REDO THE WALL, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THE STRUCTURE STAYS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW. THE ORIGINAL PUMP SYSTEM PUMPS TO THE LINE DOWNSTREAM ON VELASCO.

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Y'ALL ARE USING THE WHAT THEY CALL THE STORM PUMPS THAT BYPASS IT AROUND TO KEEP THAT LINE FROM BEING LOADED ON VELASCO [INAUDIBLE].

SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S TO KEEP YOU FROM HAVING OVERFLOWS AND IONIZE AND STUFF.

SO RIGHT NOW, THERE IS SOME LEAKAGE FROM THE WET WELL INTO THE DRY PUMP ROOM, THE ORIGINAL DRY PUMP ROOM.

SO YOU WOULD JUST COME IN THERE AND JUST KNOCK THAT OUT AND LET THAT FEEL FOR THAT, THAT FLOATING VOLUME WHENEVER YOU GET TO.

BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THE CONCRETE THAT STATION IS SO OLD THAT YOU HAVE MASSIVE ROCKS IN YOUR CONCRETE SHOWING THAT THE THE GROUT IN THE CEMENTITIOUS PART OF IT IS GONE. SO WE WANT TO PROTECT THAT.

RIGHT.

HOPEFULLY, FINGERS CROSSED WE WON'T USE TO WHERE IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN.

WE CAN. WE CAN DO THE HOLE CUTTING.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THAT EXPENSIVE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, I'LL MAKE A DEAL WITH YOU TONIGHT THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER 62000 AVAILABLE. I'M GOING TO THROW IN THE EXTRA AND $150 DOLLARS OUT OF OUR BUDGET, BUT FOR ANOTHER HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO THOUSAND, WE CAN [INAUDIBLE] STATION EIGHT.

SO I'M WILLING TO MAKE A DEAL.

I'LL KICK IN A COUPLE OF COUNCIL CHECKS.

BUT SO LET ME ASK, THOUGH.

SO WE HAD THAT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT UNDER THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM.

DO WE NEED TO GO BACK? I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING, IT'S 400 SOME THOUSAND OR LESS.

WHY, WHY ARE WE GOING TO LIKE ONLY DO ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND IN SHORTCHANGE THE WHOLE RENOVATION? EXACTLY.

ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE GO REBID THIS THING TO? NO. SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS A SECOND BID.

CAN WE GO? SHOULD WE GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM TO MAKE A MOTION? WELL, SO BUT YOU ONLY LIKE CECIL POINTING OUT YOU ONLY HAVE A BID ON A ALTHOUGH HDR CAN CORRECT ME ON THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ONLY HAVE A BID ON A PORTION.

EXACTLY. YEAH, WE ONLY HAVE A BID ON THE EMERGENCY.

THE STUFF THAT THAT'S FAILING, THAT WE'VE GOT TO STOP FROM FAMILY.

WE CAN GO, WE CAN GO, BID ON THE REMAINING, WE CAN GO OUT AND BID ON THE REMAINING.

WE DID THIS ALL UNDER THE ONGOING CONTRACT FOR OUR FEES, YOU KNOW, AND LET A LOT OF THE LOT OF THE WORK WAS DONE BY OUR IT'S I WAS KEEPING THE PRICE DOWN AS LOW AS I CAN.

BY DOING THAT, I'M NOT THAT.

SO WHY DON'T? WHY DON'T WE EXECUTE THIS? HGR WILL GO BID OUT THE REMAINDER OF THE WORK AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.

[INAUDIBLE] OUT OF ARP FUNDS.

YOU CAN TAKE OUT A FEW LINE ITEMS ADDRESSING THE WET WELL OF THE THAT HTI WAS GOING TO DO AND THROW THAT INTO THE NEXT CONTRACT, POSSIBLY.

WELL, THE THING IS IS I'VE GOT TO DO THE DESIGN OF IT NOW.

I MEAN. BECAUSE THIS WASN'T MUCH OF A DESIGN, THIS WAS, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO BREAK IT FROM HERE. WE'RE GOING TO BREAK IT FROM HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT THE PIPE BETWEEN THESE TWO.

I HAD A POINT HERE AT A POINT HERE.

I KNEW IT WAS GOING INTO THE LIFT STATION HAD A POINT.

NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE ELECTRICAL LOADING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ACTUAL DESIGN, I NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN DO. NOW I KNOW JEFF IS WORKING WITH A PUMP SUPPLIER RIGHT NOW, HE ON THAT STATION.

SO JEFF IS ALREADY LOOKING AT A PUMP SUPPLIER, SO MAYBE THAT'S ALREADY GOING AND WE COULD HELP THEM WHATEVER THEY NEED ON THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE DESIGN, I MEAN, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT WAY MORE SIGNIFICANT EFFORT THAN WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THE FLOWS TO GET TO THE LIFT STATION AND KEEP THE LIST STATION FROM STRUCTURALLY FAILING.

SO UNDER YOUR CONCEPT, LIKE THE ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO, HE COULD FIND PUMPS OUT OF THAT. AND THEN IN THE MEANTIME, JOHN DOES THE DESIGN FOR THE LIFT STATION AND THEN COMES BACK WITH ANOTHER COST, WHICH WOULD BE LESS THAN THE 440 BECAUSE IT'S MINUS AT THE PUMPS, RIGHT? THEY SAY THE RIGHT.

YEAH, MOSTLY, RIGHT.

I AGREE. I MEAN, IF IF YOU'RE GOING TO FIX THE LINES GOING TO IT AND WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE WORST ONES AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND WE HAVE THEM FUNDS SITTING THERE. MY ONLY ISSUE IS I DON'T WANT TO GO OFF THE DEEP END ON SPENDING, ESPECIALLY, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S LEFT ON THE ARP FUNDS LIKE A BREAKDOWN OF THAT? IF I HAD THAT, I CAN, I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IN MAKING A DECISION.

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SO WE HAVEN'T.

LIKE WE SAID BEFORE, WE HAVEN'T DESIGNATE FOR ANY OTHER PROJECT.

WE WERE GOING TO START DEVELOPING THAT LIST.

THIS WAS A GREAT STEP IN DOING THAT.

AND SO. HAVING THE COLLAPSE, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT THAT TO THE FOREFRONT, SO SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, THREE HUNDRED AND SOME PLUS ANOTHER WORD ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED SOME THOUSAND OUT OF ONE POINT FIVE.

AND WELL, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL.

NO, I'M ALL GOOD FOR IT.

WE CAN JUST KNOCK IT ALL OUT NOW, WHILE WHILE WE'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED TONIGHT IS ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL ONES OF THE CITY.

WE HAVE THE FUNDING AND LIKE HE SAID, I THINK HE SAID IT.

THERE'S THE STRUCTURAL SIDE, THE MECHANICAL SIDE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE STRUCTURAL SO LONG.

WE JUST NOT GOT THE MECHANICAL ONE FELL SWOOP.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS THE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS, RIGHT? HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE? AND WILL YOUR PROCESS SLOW UP TRYING TO GET THE REPAIR DONE? CAN WE BUY SOME TIME TO GET THE REPAIR DONE UNTIL YOU GET YOUR DESIGN AND BRING THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS? AGAIN, THIS IS I'VE GOT TO GET DOWN AND START LOOKING AT IT.

YOU KNOW, WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT I CAN EXPEDITE IT AGAIN.

WE KNOW WHAT THE DYNAMIC, THE TOTAL DYNAMIC LOADING IS ON IT FROM THE PREVIOUS PLANS THAT WERE DONE. SO THE PUMP SELECTION, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT THE LOADING IS AT THE STATION.

IT'S GOING TO BE AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT TO GET ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.

I GOT TO, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT TO GET A LOT OF THAT, THAT STUFF DONE.

THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW WAS MORE NOT SO MUCH THE LIST STATION AS IT WAS BRINGING IT TO THE LIST STATION. YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR.

LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PAID TO THEM, AND MOST OF IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE LEFT.

EXACTLY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT'S TO.

IT'S TO GET THE THE THE FAILED SEWER LINE COMING TO THE LIFT STATION PUT BACK IN ORDER.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF.

TEAR THAT RIP UP A TREE OR SOMETHING OF THAT.

SOME SOME INSIGNIFICANT THINGS.

BUT THE MAJORITY OF THIS MONEY IS REPLACING THE FAILED SEWER LINES.

THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO BRING YOUR PROPOSAL AND BIDS FOR THE LIFT STATION ITSELF.

AND AGAIN, WE CAN BUY THE PUMPS AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF AHEAD OF THAT.

HE'S REALLY GOT TO DO THE DESIGN THEN.

SO WE KNOW TO INSTALL IT AND THOSE CERTAIN THINGS.

YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH A PUMP SELECTION PROCESS TO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE DESIGN OF THE LEVITATION. SO JASON, A MOTION TO PROCEED WITH THE REPAIRS AS PRESENT IS PRESENTED. THAT'S FOR ITEM NUMBER 13.

IF YOU WANT TO RECONSIDER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REOPEN.

ITEM NUMBER 12 NUMBER 12.

OK, WELL, SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO.

IS HE ANOTHER DIRECTION JUST BY THIS THE CONVERSATION? LET'S GET A PROPOSAL BACK FROM HDR THAT WE CAN BRING IN, AND WE'LL PUT IT ON THIS NEW AGENDA. BUT ISN'T THAT A PROPOSAL FOR WHAT YOU DISCUSSED IN ITEM 12? NO, NO. THAT'S NOT THE TRUE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NO MORE SPENDING TO BE DONE OR FOR THE ITEM NUMBER 12.

THANK YOU FOR TRYING, THOUGH.

THAT WAS JUST A STUDY. YOU TOLD US WHAT WE NEED TO SPEND ON.

SO CHRIS IS RIGHT.

HE'S COME BACK TO US WITH A PROPOSAL ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THERE, RIGHT? OH, I'M DOING ALL THIS.

ALL THIS IS IS TO GET THE COLLECTION OF THE FLOW TO THE STATION AND KEEP THE LIST STATION FROM BEING DAMAGED WHEN WE PUT THE PIPE INTO THE BACK END OF THE WET WAY.

MM HMM. THAT'S THAT'S ALL THIS IS IS TRYING TO REALLY GET TO THE WET.

WELL, RIGHT? COUNCILMAN BOOTH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

DO YOU THINK IT'S.

X, IS IT ACCEPTABLE FOR US TO ACCEPT THE BID FOR THE THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND FROM HTI, THAT INCLUDES THAT FORTY ONE THOUSAND SUPPLEMENTALS, IF WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO DO MORE ON LIFT STATION EIGHT, OR SHOULD WE ACCEPT IT FOR JUST THE TWO HUNDRED NINETY SIX THOUSAND, EXCLUDING THE SUPPLEMENTAL? WHAT ARE THE SUPPLEMENTALS? SUPPLEMENTALS ARE JUST ITEMS THAT WE MAY SEE LIKE PEDOMETERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THINGS THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO AN IN-DEPTH THIS WAS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR.

I DIDN'T GO OUT AND DO AN IN-DEPTH DESIGN.

SO I HAD TO PUT ITEMS IN HERE THAT WE MAY SEE.

BUT SUPPLEMENTAL DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY GET THAT MONEY SUPPLEMENTAL.

I HAVE TO GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO USE IT.

SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT IS TECHNICALLY REALLY PART OF THE CONTRACT.

SO THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE THAT WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BASE BID FOR LIFE STATION EIGHT, WE CAN EXTRACT THAT FROM SUPPLEMENTALS FOR THIS.

CORRECT. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE BID FOR THREE HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS FROM HTI FOR THE REPAIRS TO LIFT STATION EIGHT AND ITS SANITARY GRAVITY SEWER. SECOND.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

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THE FARTHER FAR EAST END OF IT IS THAT RICHLAND CIRCLE OUT THERE ON THE FAR END OF HOSPITAL DRIVE IN EVERYTHING.

SO FROM THAT WAY, FLOWS THIS WAY.

THAT'S A BIG AREA. MM HMM.

OK. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARRIES THANK YOU.

IT'S JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR JEFF.

HOW'S THE LINE COMING IN FROM THE EAST INTO THIS LIFT STATION? WE HAD HAD SOME BAD PROBLEMS IN THE PAST.

WE FIXED THEM. LINE, EVERYTHING TO BIG, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER 14 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AUSTIN

[14. Discussion and possible action on Austin Colony – Carr and Tigner Road.]

CHRIS. YEAH, SO THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, AS AUSTIN COLONY DEVELOPS AND WE GOT TICKNER ROAD COMING THROUGH. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS BEFORE ABOUT CONNECTING TO CAR ROAD AND COUNTY ROAD FORTY FOUR.

SO I ASKED HDR TO DO SOME PRELIMINARY WORK FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES AND DIRECTION.

AND SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN.

YEAH, WHAT WE DID IS WE PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE OF LITTLE EXHIBITS FROM CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN PART OF.

THE FIRST ONE WAS IF THE EXTENSION OF THE CAR OF TIGNER ROAD TO CAR ROAD, WHERE COULD WE MAKE THAT TIE IN AT WITH THAT BEND THERE TO MEET THE TEXAS TRAFFIC MANUAL? WE HAVE TO GO ROUGHLY RIGHT ABOUT THERE.

WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IT TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOOT DISTANCE FROM THAT CURVE WHERE YOU CAN GET A SITE DISTANCE FOR THE SPEED THAT'S IN THAT AREA.

SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST FOR CONVERSATIONAL PURPOSES.

THE THE NEXT SLIDE THAT WE HAVE IS THE EXTENSION OF CARR ROAD, BRINGING IT CONTINUING ITS SOUTH DOWN THE EXISTING EASEMENT AND MAKING A TIE IN RIGHT THERE AT HERITAGE.

IT'S WHERE IT'D BE A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION THERE AND THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS HELD ABOUT THAT. AND THEN FINALLY, THE OTHER ONE WAS TAKING CARR ROAD DOWN THE RIGHT AWAY AND MAKING A PERPENDICULAR TIE IN TO COUNTY ROAD.

FORTY FOUR. AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST FOR DISCUSSION TO OPEN UP DISCUSSIONS, TO LET COUNCIL TALK ABOUT IT. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OR WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT CHRIS HAD ASKED ME TO GET THESE CONVERSATIONS STARTED.

YEAH. ME PERSONALLY, I THINK.

YOU'RE YOU GOT THE INTERSECTION RIGHT WITH.

I WAS JUST FOR CONVERSATION, BUT THE INTERSECTION RIGHT WITH THOSE AT HERITAGE? YES. OPTION TWO.

OPTION TWO. THAT ONE LIGHT THERE? YOU GOT SCHOOL RIGHT THERE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE IT GOING DIRECTLY INTO TIGNER ROAD WITH CARR ROAD.

COMING TO A STOP THERE.

THANK YOU, MARK. YEAH.

YOU'RE WELCOME, JOHN. YOU BEAT ME TO IT.

WHY, WHY IS THAT NOT ONE OF THE OPTIONS JOHN? OPTION AN OPTION THAT TIGNER IS THE MAIN ROAD CAR? GET INTO IT.

JASON PULL IT BACK DOWN TO SIX UP TO.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

MAY I GO UP THERE AND POINT AT THE SCREEN FOR A MINUTE? ABSOLUTELY. GRAB A MICROPHONE.

THEY DON'T LOOK IN THAT LIGHT.

THESE DOUBLE LINES YOU SEE RIGHT HERE GOING UP THAT WAY.

AND OVER THIS WAY, THOSE WERE ORIGINALLY PLATED STREETS IN NEW YORK AND TEXAS LAND COMPANY SUBDIVISION.

WHOEVER KNOWS, WHENEVER CARR ROAD WAS TURNED OVER HERE, THOSE PEOPLE DON'T LIVE ANYMORE, I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY PASSED AWAY, BUT ANYHOW.

OFTEN CALL A SUBDIVISION.

PLAYING RIGHT NOW IS TO BRING TIGNER HERE, SWEEP DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND COME RIGHT OVER TO HERE AND STOP AT THIS BLIGHTED ROAD.

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WELL, AUSTIN CARNEY BOULEVARD, IT'S GOING TO GO ON UP HERE AND TIE INTO KIND OF THE DRIVE RIGHT HERE. CORRECT.

WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO ME? YOU JUST BOTH GO THROUGH AND TIE INTO THIS, BRAZORIA COUNTY HAS DECLARED ANCHOR ROAD AS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

THEY'VE ALSO DECLARED CARR ROAD AS A MAJOR COLLECTOR.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

CAR ROAD AND ANCHOR ROAD TO BE THEIR BIG TRAFFIC CARRIER IN THE FUTURE.

UH. SO MAYBE THERE CAN BE SOME CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY OF MAYBE ADJUSTING THEIR THOROUGHFARE PLAN OR SOMETHING.

THIS IS ALL COUNTY.

THIS IS NOT CITY.

SO. YES.

MARK. WHAT YOU WERE TOLD, BUT IT WOULD COME IN RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE SLIGHT TURN, YOU COULD TIE IN, HAVE A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION HERE.

HMM. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO ADDRESS THE OTHER TWO BECAUSE I'M NOT FOR THEM.

I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS, I KNOW I HAVEN'T SPOKE MUCH TONIGHT, BUT.

I MY MY VISION OF THE FUTURE WOULD BE THAT.

THE TIE IN TO TIGNER NEEDS TO GO DIRECTLY INTO ANCHOR, COUNTY ROAD 44, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO ADDRESS IT, THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY RESULT IN SOME SORT OF PROBABLY THREE WAY INTERSECTION. TO CARR TO TIGNER AND, OF COURSE, ANCHOR ITSELF, AND THEN, OF COURSE, ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT FEEDING RIGHT INTO OUR MAJOR NEW PARK. I MEAN, OUR NEW PARK SYSTEM IS GOING RIGHT THERE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A NATURAL STOP THERE AND.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THE SCHOOL ITSELF IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME ISSUES THERE, BUT IT ALSO MAKES SENSE FROM A.

UH. A BYPASS, IF YOU WILL, IT WILL IT WILL BISECT THE CITY IN A CERTAIN RESPECT.

IF AND WHEN THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M A CALL IT A THOROUGHFARE, BUT WHENEVER YOU PUT THAT THROUGH THERE AND I KNOW PART OF THE DESIGN ALREADY DOES NOT INCLUDE HOUSES FACING THAT, YOU KNOW, FACING THE NEW TICKNER ROAD.

WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE A ROAD THAT'S GOING TO BE HEAVILY TRAVELED, I MEAN, I THINK THE WAY THE DESIGNS ARE THERE FACING INLAND OR INWARD OR AWAY FROM AWAY FROM TIGNER, SO IT NEEDS TO BE OPENED UP.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE HAVE TO PREPARE FOR, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A.

ANY SORT OF CONNECTIVITY EAST THE WEST THAT WE CREATE IN THE TOWN IS GOING TO BE A POSITIVE. I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE IN THE WORKS OF CREATING A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF ANGLETON, YES, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BECAUSE TIGNER PUT TO WHAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ALREADY IS CANNAN IS A VERY, UM, IT'S A NICE PART OF TOWN, IT'S GOING TO BE A THE CENTER OF TOWN AS THE TOWN HAS SHIFTED TO THE NORTH.

UM, JUST. PROBABLY IN LARGE PART, PROBABLY TO 288 BEING BUILT TO LOOP AROUND IT AND AND THE LOOP IN TOWN ITSELF.

AND SO. AND AS WE'VE STARTED TO SEE THESE PEOPLE OF OUR LAND IS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST. AND SO I DON'T I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO SHIFT THE CENTER OF TOWN A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

IT'S A GOOD.

HOPEFULLY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THERE, I MEAN, THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE GROWTH, WE GOT SHOPPING CENTERS.

I THINK THERE'S LAND AROUND THE PRESENT WAL-MART ON BOTH SIDES AND YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE OPPORTUNITIES THERE, SO I ECHO WHAT? I BELIEVE CECIL SAYING AS WELL AS MARK AND I, I'D LIKE TO SEE US EXPLORE THE HAPPEN IN A WAY THAT I THINK WILL IN CERTAIN RESPECTS, ENHANCE MOBILITY THROUGH TOWN. THANK YOU, TRAVIS.

JOHN. I THINK IT'S ALL OVER MY FACE.

I AGREE WITH WHAT MARK AND TRAVIS HAVE BOTH SAID, AND MR. BOOTH BRINGS UP VERY GOOD POINTS, AND I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

I DO AGREE THAT THE LONG TERM PLAN IS THE SECOND OPTION, WITH TIGNER BEING THE MAIN COLLECTOR GOING IN.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE COUNTY IS SEEING CAR IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR BECAUSE EVENTUALLY

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AND I MEAN, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE COUNTY, BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE THE ONES ARE GOING TO BE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO DECIDE, WHY DID WHY DID WE LET THIS HAPPEN OR WHAT DID WE DO HERE? RIGHT NOW, IT'S IN THE COUNTY.

BUT LONG TERM, IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY CITY AREA.

AND YOU KNOW, THE EAST WEST CORRIDOR IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE HAVE TO GET RIGHT HERE BECAUSE WE LACK DRASTICALLY EAST WEST IN THAT AREA.

SO TO ME, TICKNER SHOULD GO INTO HERITAGE, THE HERITAGE JOKES AND CHANTED OAKS DRIVE AND HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL LIGHT THERE.

AND I DO AGREE WITH THE COUNTY FOR MAKING ANCHOR A MAJOR COLLECTOR AND BRINGING IT INTO THE, YOU KNOW, OFF THE HIGHWAY INTO WHERE THE COURTHOUSE IS GOING TO BE.

SO I REALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE POSITIONED FOR THE FUTURE THERE. AND IT ALSO FIXES CARR BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, CARR'S, IT NEEDS TO COME DOWN FURTHER SOUTH. IT SHOULD GET IN INTO TIGNER RIGHT NOW THAT YOU KNOW YOU HAVE MULLIGANS UP THERE, YOU HAVE THAT FOUR-WAY STOP AT HENDERSON.

SO I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, THAT'S GOING TO BE A I COULD SEE THAT EITHER BEING GOING COMMERCIAL OR GOING RESIDENTIAL, BUT WE REALLY NEED A LAND PLAN IN THAT AREA TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF CARR.

SO THAT'S MY OPINION.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, JOHN. I KNOW WE HAVE MR. RAY HERE AND HIS ENGINEERS HERE.

I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE DECIDE IMPACTS YOU GUYS.

SO I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS.

BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU'RE RIGHT, I THINK I AGREE, ECHOED EVERYTHING EVERYBODY'S SAYING, EAST AND WEST.

WE'VE GOT TO GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME WHEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT.

ONLY MY THING IS WHO PAYS FOR IT? AND THEN I'M ASSUMING I LOOK TO COUNSEL FOR THIS.

WILL THIS HAVE TO FALL UNDER EMINENT DOMAIN? DO WE HAVE TO GO IN AND TAKE THIS STRIP OF LAND FROM THIS PROPERTY OWNER? AND HOW DOES THAT LOOK AND WHAT DOES THAT ALL ENTAIL? SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I JUST LOOK AT IS, YOU KNOW, FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD ONCE AGAIN, GUYS, I'M ALL IN AGREEMENT. IF WE CAN GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, LET'S GET IT RIGHT.

THE FIRST TIME. I THINK WE'VE HAD AN EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT LONG TERM RESIDENT WHO TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THAT INTERSECTION AND AND THIS JUST FROM SOMEBODY WHO IS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO GAVE US SOME WORDS OF WISDOM AS WELL.

AND THEN I DO LISTEN TO THAT INDIVIDUAL AND HONOR HIS DIALECT.

BUT MY BIG QUESTION IS, IS A, HOW MUCH? AND THEN HOW DO WE ACQUIRE THAT? HOW DOES THAT PROCESS? WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? SO, SO I JUST MY GUESS WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP WOULD GO BACK AND MEET WITH THE COUNTY SINCE IT'S A COUNTY ROAD AND SAY.

THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IN THE ROAD.

HOW DO WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? RIGHT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S COUNTING PROPERTY, SO WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE HUNT OTHER THAN EXPRESS OUR OPINION, AND THEN WE CAN WAIT TO SEE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THAT AND THEN, I THINK, INVESTIGATE THAT FURTHER AND MOVE THAT ON.

I THINK THE [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE VERY AGREEABLE TO DISCUSSING WHEN THEY ESTABLISHED THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES FOR THE ROADS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

THEY ESTABLISHED HIM AS THE WAY THEY ARE TODAY, WHEN NOT TODAY, WHENEVER, WHATEVER DAY IT WAS, THEY DID. AND I THINK THEY'RE VERY AMENABLE TO MOVING THINGS AROUND.

THEY'VE HAD TO DO A LOT OF READJUSTMENTS UP AT THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY WITH THEIR VARIOUS PROJECTS UP THERE.

SO YEAH, I SUGGEST.

SO SO WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, CONFIRM CECIL'S OBSERVATIONS AND GREAT, GREAT JOB POINTING CECIL, BY THE WAY. BUT THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SIX FOOT ROAD ANYMORE IN THE FUTURE, IT'S GOING TO BE 80 FOOT ROADS.

SO ANY KIND OF ROAD AND EASEMENT AND ALL, THAT'S 80 FOOT VERSUS 60.

AND SO JUST AGAIN.

I THINK LOOKING FOR COUNCIL DIRECTIONS, SAY, HEY, STAFF, GO TALK TO THE COUNTY AND GET GET SOME FEEDBACK IN AN OPINION FROM THE COUNTY, AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM THERE. AND HOW DOES THAT ACQUISITION LOOK LIKE? DO WE BE THE CATALYST FOR THAT ACQUISITION OR DO WE WALK SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE COUNTY? WELL, SO I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO DISCUSS AGAIN RIGHT NOW.

IT'S COUNTY PROPERTY, SO.

THEORETICALLY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE LEAD UNLESS THEY SAY, WELL, SEE, YOU ALL CAN TAKE THE LEAD. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT THE LANDOWNER TO HAVE SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION. WE'VE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL SO FAR.

BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO NOW THAT WE'RE WE HAVE A DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL, GO

[02:35:04]

TELL US WHAT. TELL US HOW TO DO IT.

OK, AND ONLY BECAUSE I'M NOT VERSED ON ANY OF THESE EMINENT DOMAIN RULES.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, JUDITH? I MEAN, THIS IS SUBJECT TO I MEAN, IT'S SUBJECT TO BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY A PUBLIC USE.

AND IF THE COUNTIES ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF IMPROVING THE ROADS THERE AND THEY ALREADY HAVE A PLAN.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ARGUMENT THAT IT'S NOT FOR THE PUBLIC USE.

OKAY. BUT I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE SAME BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER CITIES THAT DO THIS AS WELL. THEY HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THE CITY BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE COUNTY WILL PICK UP THE MAINTENANCE.

I HAVE OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY WILL COME IN THE CITY LIMITS AND PURSUANT TO THEIR AGREEMENTS, MAINTAIN, IMPROVE, WIDENED.

SO I WOULD SAY EXHAUST AT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO AND DETERMINE WHAT'S NEXT.

OK. AND I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE.

SO OK. THE COUNTY SAYS, YEAH, WE'LL WALK WITH YOU.

LET'S GO FOR IT. BUT THEN THEY SAY, RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT IN OUR BUDGETING STOCK OVER THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE, SIX YEARS, THEN WE WOULD GET AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT THEY WOULD DO NOTHING TO DETRACT AND TO AID US.

OK. SO PARTICULARLY SINCE IT'S THEIR PROPERTY ON CONDEMNATION, BASICALLY.

OK, SO LET ME JUST TRYING TO THINK LIKE ONCE THIS GETS OUT, WE WERE GOING TO GO, OH, THEY'RE TAKING LAND AWAY. WELL, NO, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET A GOOD GAME PLAN SO WE CAN PUT US IN A GOOD POSITION TO CHEERLEAD FOR THIS AND WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, JUST HELPING US SELL IT BEFORE IT GETS OUT.

AND IT'S NOT THE RIGHT SALE.

I MEAN, WE WANT DO EVERYTHING WE CAN POSSIBLE.

I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, EMINENT DOMAIN IS NOT SOMETHING I'VE.

I'VE SAT ON THIS COUNCIL FOREVER AND I'VE NEVER SAT HERE AND WE DON'T WHERE WE'VE DONE EMINENT DOMAIN, THAT'S WHERE I WAS.

I'M I'M VERY AVERSE TO THAT.

HOWEVER, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS PROPERTY IS WE'RE TAKING ELEVEN POINT ONE ACRES THAT ARE ACTUALLY BISECTED BY A ROAD CURRENTLY AND PUTTING IT BACK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON THE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT ROAD.

THE ONLY THING WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THE FOUR AND A QUARTER ACRES ON THIS VERY SOUTH TIP OF IT. THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE WHAT WE WOULD BE AFTER.

THAT, TO ME, IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED THERE.

AND I'M WITH YOU, JOHN, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TEAM DOES HERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK IT GOES BACK TO.

DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND.

BECAUSE THIS IS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY, I BELIEVE, FOR THE CITY.

I THINK THE WHOLE WELL, SOME OF US SAT UP ON THIS COUNCIL AND GAVE THESE VARIANCES WITH THE WHOLE INTENT.

THERE WOULD BE A TIT FOR TAT, THERE WOULD BE EXCHANGE AND THE EXCHANGE WAS THE IDEA THAT ROAD WOULD BE THE NEW EAST WEST PART OF A NEW EAST-WEST CORRIDOR.

AND WE'RE.

DOING SOME THINGS THAT I PARTICULARLY DON'T CARE FOR IN THAT SUBDIVISION.

BUT I'M WILLING TO CHEW ON BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXCHANGE OF SOME GIVE AND SOME TAKE.

SURE. SO I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET IT RIGHT.

AND FOR US. TO USE ALL TOOLS NECESSARY WITHIN REASON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT RIGHT.

I DON'T WANT TO HONESTLY, I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE IN 20 YEARS AND BE LIKE, MAN, WHAT WERE THESE GUYS THINKING? EXACTLY.

JIM LADIES' OR WHOEVER ENDS UP MAKING THESE DECISIONS? BUT. AND I GET THAT.

THANK YOU, TRAVIS. BECAUSE THE CURRENT DEVELOPER THERE, HE'S BEEN VERY WORKABLE WITH US.

IT'S JUST, I WORRY ABOUT THIS OTHER OTHER LANDOWNER WHO, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T LIVE HERE, DOESN'T LIVE AROUND HERE. I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, FROM FOLKS THAT HE DOESN'T TALK TO ANYBODY. HE'S NOT EVEN HIS HANDS ARE CLOSED SHUT.

SO JUST THINKING OUT LOUD FOR THINKING HERE.

SO THANK YOU, GUYS.

I APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW MR. RAY IS HERE. DROVE DOWN.

I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM FROM YOU GUYS AND JUST, YOU KNOW, YOUR FOOD FOR THOUGHT YOU HEARD US UP HERE. AND DEFINITELY IT IMPACTS YOU GUYS.

AND LIKE TRAVIS SAID, WE'VE KIND OF SCRATCHED EACH OTHER'S BACK HERE, SO FEEL FREE.

MR. RAY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP OR YOUR REP MR. DOUG WANTS TO COME TO THE MIC.

IT'S YOURS. YOU KNOW, DOUG, YOU FILLED OUT A BUNCH OF PIECES OF PAPER HERE.

DANNY, COME ON UP. MR. RAY. RIGHT THERE, PLEASE, SIR.

THANK YOU. WELL, I HAD PREPARED AN HOUR AND A HALF SPEECH, BUT SINCE THIS HAS BEEN SUCH A SHORT MEETING, IT HAS BEEN A SHORT MEETING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

THE ROAD THAT'S UP THERE RIGHT NOW DOESN'T AFFECT OUR PROPERTY.

THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

SO IF YOU START GO ACROSS OUR PROPERTY, THEN IT WILL COST US MONEY AND WE'LL BE IN HERE

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BUT RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS GOOD.

OK, SIR, THANK YOU.

THANKS. THE SOONER, THE BETTER.

ALL RIGHT. WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. OK, SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL.

YEAH, TRAVIS, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT.

THIS TIGNER IS GOING TO BE IN THE BACKYARD OF PEOPLE AS HIS LAND PLAN IS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO ACCESS THE LOTS FROM SECONDARY ROADS INSIDE.

CORRECT? YEAH. I DON'T MEAN JUST TO CALL DOWN THERE, MARCO, THANK YOU, SIR, ANY MORE.

SO CHRIS, WHAT DO YOU NEED TONIGHT FROM US? SO I THINK I HAVE SUFFICIENT GUIDANCE.

I DON'T THINK I NEED ACTION.

WE'LL GO TALK TO THE COUNTY AND COME BACK AND REPORT AND SEE WHAT WE GOT THE NEXT STEP.

MAYBE THE MAYBE THE COUNTY CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THIS GUY AND START DISCUSSIONS SINCE WE HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

IT'S IMPORTANT. YEAH.

OK. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT COMPLETE ITEM NUMBER 14.

WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 15, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT.

LINDSAY, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS? WHETHER DETERMINED WE WANT TO TAKE A QUICK FIVE, LET PEOPLE STRETCH YOUR LEGS.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, MAYOR.

OK, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

IT'S 8:42.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL US BACK AT THE TABLE AT 8:56 AND WE'LL MOVE.

[15. Discussion on a proposed residential rental registration and inspections policy to support health, safety, quality of life, and code compliance.]

MS. LINDSEY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THIS.

AND JASON, DO YOU MIND PUTTING IT ON PAGE 184 IN THE AGENDA PACKET? SO A LOT OF RESEARCH WENT INTO THIS, AND I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF START OFF WITH A CAVEAT THAT THIS IS NOT FOR ACTION AND ADOPTION.

IT'S SIMPLY SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT OUR FINDINGS TO YOU, PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND BASICALLY A WHOLE POLICY SO YOU CAN DIGEST IT AND OFFER VALUABLE FEEDBACK TO STAFF BECAUSE THIS MAY BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO, IT MAY NOT BE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, YES, THIS IS THIS IS PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE INTEREST OF HEALTH AND SAFETY. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

JANUARY ONE OF 2021 CITY STAFF LAUNCHED SUBSTANDARD BUILDING INITIATIVE TO REMOVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE UNFIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION.

SO WE DID A COMPREHENSIVE LIST AND IDENTIFIED SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE WORKING TO REMOVE. AND DURING OUR RESEARCH, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A PARALLEL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN RENTALS AND SUBSTANDARD BUILDINGS.

AND SO THAT KIND OF CREATES A DISPARITY IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE BASED ON INCOME STRATAS.

SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND, THIS POLICY IS PRESENTED TO YOU AS A WAY TO OFFER A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS.

IT IS NOT PRESENTED TO YOU AS A MEANS OF CREATING A NEW REVENUE STREAM FOR THE CITY.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE IN MY RESEARCH, BASICALLY JUST GENERATES THE REVENUE TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, JASON, IF WE COULD MOVE ALONG TO THE PRESENTATION PART.

WE CAN SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER.

SO I'VE KIND OF ALREADY COVERED SOME OF THIS, AND FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU AND GIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, I'LL GO THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY AND MOSTLY FOCUS ON THE RESEARCH PART OF IT.

CAN WE GO DOWN ANOTHER ONE? SO WE'VE KIND OF COVERED WHAT IT IS.

I'VE ABBREVIATED IT 3RPI, SO THAT'S RESIDENTIAL RENTAL INSPECTIONS AND REGISTRATION PROGRAM. AND SO JUST FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY, WE CALL IT THREE RPI.

SO WHAT STAFF DID WAS WE SAMPLED CITYWIDE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST A LARGE DISTRIBUTION OF STREETS RANDOMLY AND ASSESS THAT THERE'S APPROXIMATELY ANYWHERE FROM TWENTY ONE TO TWENTY FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE RENTALS.

AND HOW WE REACH THAT CONCLUSION WAS ANY.

WE WENT TO THE CAD AND OF THE IDENTIFIED PROPERTIES, ANYTHING THAT HAD A DISPARITY BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER ADDRESS AND THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND HAD AN ACTIVE UTILITY ACCOUNT WAS VERY LIKELY TO RETURN BEING A RENTAL.

SO WHILE IT'S A LOT EASIER TO QUANTIFY APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, NOBODY'S EVER REALLY DONE ANY RESEARCH ON HOW MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE RENTALS.

SO IN MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WE TESTED OUR HYPOTHESIS USING A CONFIDENCE INTERVAL OR TWO TAILED TEST. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT A TWO TAILED TEST, IT MAKES LIKE A BELL CURVE THAT TAPERS AT EITHER END AND AT A NINETY FIVE PERCENT CONFIDENCE INTERVAL.

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SO IF WE CAN MOVE DOWN, THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE DIFFERENT POPULATION AND NUMBER OF HOME INCREASES OVER THE NEXT TWO WELL OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

AND THERE'S SOME COMPARATIVE BARS THAT SHOW YOU QUANTIFICATION OF POPULATION AND HOW WE EXPECT WILL GROW WILL BE A LITTLE OVER TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND IN THE NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

SO IN KIND OF EXPANDING ON THE METHODOLOGY OF HOW WE DID THIS, YOU CAN SEE THAT FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN ANGLETON.

OF THAT NUMBER, WE SAMPLED EIGHT HUNDRED AND SIX, RENDERING APPROXIMATELY 13 PERCENT OF ALL OF THE HOMES THAT WERE SAMPLED WERE TESTED FOR POSSIBLY BEING A RENTAL.

THAT'S A LIST OF THE STREETS THAT WERE SAMPLED AGAIN.

THOSE ARE ALL OVER THE CITY.

SO I'VE KIND OF GONE OVER THAT AND WE CAN SCROLL THROUGH THESE MAPS BECAUSE THESE ARE JUST THESE SHOW WHICH STREETS WE SAMPLED.

AND WE CAN GO PASS THAT ONE, TOO.

SO ANYWHERE FROM 20 AND A HALF PERCENT TO TWENTY FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT.

SO IN ORDER TO INSTITUTE A RENTAL INSPECTION PROGRAM, WE HAD TO ASSESS FEES AND HOW FEES WERE ASSESSED WERE BASED ON HOUSING TYPE, MOSTLY.

SO WE PROPOSED THAT THE REGISTRATION FEE WOULD BE BASED ON AN ANNUAL REGISTRATION OF $100 FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, DUPLEXES, TOWNHOMES AND $350 FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AT WHICH TIME THE REGISTRANT WOULD HAVE AN INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY.

HERE IT IS, PROPOSED TO BE 50, I THINK, AND FURTHER RESEARCH 60 IS MORE APPROPRIATE AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHY HERE SHORTLY.

APARTMENTS WOULD BE CHARGED INSPECTION FEES ON A UNIT BASIS.

AND WE CAN, WE CAN KEEP GOING.

SO HERE'S THE REVENUE TO EXPENDITURE PROJECTION.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS STRATIFIED BY TYPE OF HOUSE AND WE'VE PROJECTED HOW MUCH REVENUE WE WOULD RECEIVE WITH 100 PERCENT COMPLIANCE AS WELL AS DELINQUENCY IN YEAR ONE, WHICH WE WOULD FULLY ANTICIPATE.

IT'S ALSO SUGGESTED THAT IF THIS POLICY IS ADOPTED, THAT THERE BE A SIGNIFICANT GRACE PERIOD TO ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO ADJUST TO HAVING TO DO SOMETHING THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO DO BEFORE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, ACTUALLY, JASON, IF YOU GO RIGHT BACK UP, THAT NEGATIVE SIXTEEN THOUSAND IS WHY I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE TO SIXTY DOLLARS FOR INSPECTION FEES BECAUSE AT $50, IT CREATES A DEFICIT.

HOWEVER, THAT'S MADE UP FOR WITH REGISTRATION FEES.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT ONLY SUPPORTS THE PROGRAM NEEDS, WHICH WOULD BE AN EXTRA INSPECTOR, FULL TIME AND A PART TIME COORDINATOR AND THEIR ASSOCIATED PERSONNEL BENEFITS.

AND SO WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED WEAR AND TEAR ON THE VEHICLES.

WE JUST LEASED NEW VEHICLES.

WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED ON HERE IS THE THIRD VEHICLE WE JUST GOT.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY 60 DOLLARS IS A MORE APPROPRIATE INSPECTION CHARGE.

OF COURSE, THOSE INSPECTIONS ARE PROPOSED TO BE DONE ANNUALLY.

AND WE'VE CALCULATED ALL THAT, SO A COMPARISON OF FEES.

AGAIN, THIS IS BROKEN OUT BY HOUSING TYPE.

SEVERAL CITIES AROUND THE STATE OF TEXAS HAVE SOME TYPE OF A RENTAL INSPECTION PROCESS, SO HERE LOCALLY.

MISSOURI CITY HAS ONE.

YOU ALSO HAVE RICHWOOD HAS ONE.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM RICHWOOD HERE TONIGHT THAT CAN SPEAK ON THAT.

LAKE JACKSON HAS A RENTAL INSPECTION POLICY LIMITED TO APARTMENTS ONLY.

WE FELT IT WAS MORE EQUITABLE TO SUGGEST TO DO IT TO ALL HOUSING TYPES AS STAFF.

AND SO YOU HAVE A COMPARISON OF WHERE WE WOULD RANK.

AND OF COURSE, ANGLETON IS THE VERY LAST COLUMN ON THE CHART.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR EXES ARE MOSTLY, I MEAN, THEY'RE STRAIGHT LINES WITH RENTAL REGISTRATION AND INSPECTION FEES ELSEWHERE.

YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO ALL THE OTHER CITIES THAT WERE IN THAT CHART ABOVE.

NOW YOU WILL SEE THAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX REGISTRATION FEE IS QUITE A BIT HIGHER, BUT THAT'S THAT WOULD ALSO CATALYZE THE INSPECTOR DOING AN EXTERIOR BUILDING INSPECTION UPON REGISTRATION. SO SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS FOR AND AGAINST, OBVIOUSLY FOR THOSE IN FAVOR, WE WOULD PROMOTE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF RENTERS, CODE COMPLIANCE, NEIGHBORHOOD

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I MEAN, PARTICULARLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITHOUT HOA'S OR POA'S AND IN OTHER BLIGHTED AREAS OF TOWN. RETENTION OF REAL PROPERTY VALUES AND OTHER INCIDENTAL BENEFITS.

YOU HAVE STATISTICS ON HOUSING TYPES AND THAT PLAYS INTO HAVING DATA FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THOSE OPPOSED TO IT WOULD PROBABLY ARGUE THAT THAT'S TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT.

IT'S AN ADDED EXPENSE THAT'S PASSED ON TO THE RENTER.

NEVER HAD TO DO THIS BEFORE.

WHY DO WE NEED TO DO IT NOW? AND GRANDFATHERED EXEMPTIONS FROM REQUIREMENTS THAT RESISTANCE TO CHANGE, WHICH WE WOULD NOT? WE WOULD NOT SUGGEST THAT IF YOU DID ADOPT THIS POLICY, THAT COUNCIL WOULD ALLOW ANY GRANDFATHERING. SO SOME STUDIES WERE DONE.

THIS ONE WAS BY THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CLINIC AT UT SCHOOL OF LAW, AND THEY HAD A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE WRITE UP ON THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A RENTAL INSPECTION POLICY AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A RENTAL INSPECTION POLICY.

IT LEADS TO STUFF LIKE THIS.

THIS WAS THE CHAPLAIN TOWER IN SURFSIDE, FLORIDA.

YOU MAY RECALL BACK IN JUNE, 98, PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES WHEN THIS 12 STORY BUILDING COLLAPSED. IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN $9 MILLION TO MITIGATE THIS FROM HAPPENING JUST BY INVESTING IN THE PROPERTY.

WHEN A LANDLORD COLLECTS RENT, THEY THEY SHOULD BE KEEPING UP WITH PROPERTY.

AND HERE LOCALLY, THIS IS SOME OF OUR RENTAL PROPERTIES.

OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE CAMBRIDGE AND THE ALBION APARTMENTS UP THERE.

THOSE DID NOT HAVE ADEQUATE BRICK TIES.

AND I MEAN, IT'S VERY FORTUNATE THAT SOMEBODY WAS NOT KILLED WHEN THOSE BRICKS FELL.

YOU HAVE OTHER OTHER AREAS OF TOWN, AND YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE AREAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I'VE INCLUDED REFERENCES.

ADDITIONALLY, I'VE INCLUDED IF WE COULD SCROLL DOWN A WAYS.

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS KIND OF AN INFORMATION PACKET THAT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE GIVE TO NEW TENANTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS LANDLORDS.

IT CONTAINS IMPORTANT PHONE NUMBERS, Q&A, AS WELL AS A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF THE INSPECTION WHAT WHAT THEY LOOK FOR.

IF ADOPTED, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO ADOPT INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE TWENTY EIGHTEEN AND UPGRADE THAT.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING OFF OF TWENTY FIFTEEN, WHICH IS OUTDATED.

BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES GO WITH THE MOST CURRENT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE.

SO THERE WE HAVE IT ENUMERATED AND BROKEN OUT BY ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL, PLUMBING, INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR WITH A 10 DAY REMEDIATION REQUIREMENT.

THERE'S ALSO A REGISTRATION SAMPLE TEMPLATE.

AS WELL AS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE, WHICH HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL AND SO ANYWAY, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO DIGEST AND I TRY TO KEEP IT VERY SHORT.

I KNOW IT'S AFTER NINE.

IT'S AFTER MY BEDTIME.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU, LINDSAY.

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL.

I. SO, LINDSAY, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON IT.

AND I THINK IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF THE FINE LINE BETWEEN GOVERNMENT OVERREACH.

AND I THINK WHAT I WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO KNOW MORE OF AND IS HOW MUCH TIME DOES CODE ENFORCEMENT SPEND ON THESE HOUSES TRYING TO FIX THIS ON THE BACK END AS OPPOSED TO IF YOU WERE TO DO THIS ON THE FRONT END AND DO YOUR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS? HOW MUCH TIME WOULD BE SAVED FROM YOU HAVING TO GO BACK AND FIX AND CHASE THESE AT THE END, WHEN THE NEIGHBORS ALREADY COMPLAINED AND THE HOUSE IS FALLING APART? AND I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF A TOUGH QUESTION.

THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE I KNOW THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING ON BLIGHT AND CODE COMPLIANCE AND SENDING LETTERS.

AND BECAUSE WE'VE WE INSTITUTED THAT THE SUBSTANDARD BUILDING INITIATIVE A YEAR AGO, NOW WE'RE MOVING TO ENFORCEMENT.

SO WE DO HAVE TEETH.

WE CAN MOVE TO INVOLUNTARY DEMOLITION IF NEED BE.

OF COURSE, THAT INVOLVES PUBLIC HEARINGS AND CITY EXPENSE FOR LEGAL FEES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THEY DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE EFFECTIVELY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

I'M TRYING I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE TO HANDLE THIS PROGRAM TO DO THIS.

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I'M NOT TRYING TO DO THAT, BUT I'M SAYING THAT I LIKE YOU SAID THIS ISN'T A MONEYMAKER.

THIS IS ABOUT HEALTH AND SAFETY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME.

YOU KNOW. WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY NEED MORE STAFF IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF JUST IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT NEED TO BE INSPECTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OR AS TENANTS CHANGE, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. IN ADDITION TO ALL THE APARTMENT UNITS AND WE'VE GOT A WHOLE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING BUILT, THE ANGLETON VILLAGE APARTMENTS, IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY STRAINED AS IT IS.

YEAH. SO.

AGAIN, I ECHO JOHN ON THE HARD WORK, AND THE PRESENTATION IS CLEARLY THOROUGHLY RESEARCHED AND THOUGHT ABOUT.

I DO. UM.

I. I LIKE THE CITIES INITIATIVE ON BLIGHT, AND WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT THAT I THINK ATTRIBUTES TO EVERYBODY'S VALUES AS FAR AS PROPERTY VALUES IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND SAFETY, I THINK THEIR SAFETY IN THAT AND NOT ATTRACTING, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY.

BUT I DO WANT TO FIND A BALANCE THERE.

PERHAPS THAT CAN WE CAN BE IN CERTAIN WAYS, PROACTIVE WITHOUT BEING RESTRICTIVE, OVERLY RESTRICTIVE. I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT POLICY THAT'S NOT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'VE STUDIED AND LOOKED AT, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS, SO.

WELL, IF I IF I COULD ASK COUNCIL TO READ IT THROUGH ON YOUR OWN TIME AND LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN, BECAUSE WE I THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

I DO. AND I'D LIKE TO KIND OF OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS AN OPINION ON IT. THAT'S HERE. CHRIS HAS HIS HAND UP.

OFF. I WAS DEALING WITH THE OTHER 20 SOME ODD ITEMS, AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T BRING IT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING SOMETHING TO YOU GUYS, BUT I'LL THROW IT AT YOU AND SAID, I'M GOING TO READ THIS, AND I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO IT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING SOMETHING FOR ADOPTION THAT I HADN'T GIVEN YOU TIME TO CHEW ON.

SO. CHRIS? OH, MY GOD.

I'M LOOKING FOR THE EYES HERE.

GO AHEAD. I'VE GOT SOMETHING ELSE, THOUGH.

A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S DOABLE WITH THE CURRENT STAFF.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT A COUPLE OF STAFF, I MEAN, THEY'RE DOING CODE INSPECTIONS OR DOING HEALTH INSPECTIONS, THEY'RE DOING ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THAT WE HAVE TO JUGGLE. SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO DO IT EFFECTIVELY.

AND AGAIN, MAYBE IT'S A PHASED APPROACH, DOESN'T LIKE JACKSON, ONLY DO THEIR HOUSING OR ONLY DO APARTMENTS. AND THAT MIGHT BE THE FOCUS AREA IS LIKE, LET'S START WITH APARTMENTS AND WE YOU FUND THE ONE PERSON AND YOU KNOW AND SEE HOW IT GOES AND ATTACK AN AREA.

WE THINK WE WE KNOW WE HAVE PROBLEMS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST.

HONESTLY, I THINK THAT IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO BE EQUITABLE IN OUR APPROACH, AND IT'S EITHER ALL OR NOTHING.

NOW WHERE WE COULD SCALE BACK IS, SAY, EVERY OTHER YEAR FOR AN INSPECTION AND REGISTRATION. IF THAT'S LESS, I GUESS, OVERBEARING.

BUT I DON'T I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH SINGLING OUT ONE SPECIFIC TYPE OF HOUSING BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT CAN BE MISCONSTRUED AS TARGETING A CERTAIN TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHIC. HOLD ON CHIEF I'LL GET TO YOU IN A SECOND.

WELL, I MEAN, YOU START WALKING UP, CHIEF.

IF I TO PUT ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS ON THIS, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, NEW APARTMENTS, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE INSPECTED EVERY YEAR AS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS FOR UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS. SAME THING WITH NEW HOMES, IF THEY'RE BEING IF THEY WERE JUST BUILT AND PASSED. FIVE, 10 YEARS, I DON'T.

SEE A NEED FOR THEM TO BE INSPECTED JUST BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT SIGNIFICANT OF UNLESS, YOU KNOW, THE OUTSIDE BECOMES DECREPIT AND THERE IS AN OBVIOUS REASON FOR US TO GO INSIDE THE HOME AND DO AN INSPECTION.

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AND I FEEL LIKE THAT MAY CUT DOWN ON A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT HAS TO BE SPENT ON THIS, ESPECIALLY FOR.

THE NEW APARTMENTS.

WE ONLY HAVE TWO OR THREE WELL, THE ONES BEING BUILT.

I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF UNITS, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES UP A LOT OF TIME.

MAYBE YOU DO THAT. YOU SCALE BACK AND GO, OKAY, THINK TEN YEARS YOUNGER IS OK FOR NOW, BUT I THINK 10 YEARS OLDER, YOU KNOW? RIGHT? I THINK CHIEFS GOING TO ENLIGHTEN US AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S SEEN.

GO AHEAD, CHIEF. YEAH.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LET YOU ALL KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE WORKING FIRE AND EMS. WE GO IN THESE HOUSES DAILY.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE DATA TO SHOW HOUSE FIRES THAT ARE RENTALS VERSUS HOME OWNED.

HOWEVER, ON THE PROACTIVE SIDE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I BELIEVE THIS IS 100 PERCENT ON THAT PROACTIVE SIDE.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU, YOUR INSPECTIONS MAY TAKE PLACE IF YOU HAD A COMPLAINT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. WE ROUTINELY GO IN THESE HOUSES AND WE SEE MISSING SMOKE DETECTORS, MISSING CARBON MONOXIDE, OPEN LIGHT FIXTURES, WIRING ISSUES.

IT DOESN'T EVEN NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A FIRE.

IT CAN BE WHATEVER REASON WE WENT IN THERE AND WE JUST SEE THIS WORN OUT APPLIANCES, STOVES THAT ARE JUST FALLING APART.

THIS IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AS WELL AS HOUSES.

WE SEE MORE PROBLEMS IN HOUSES THAN YOU DO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, IN MY OPINION.

SO I AGREE WITH LINDSAY.

I FULLY SUPPORT THIS.

I WOULD NOT RESTRICT IT TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, I WOULD I WOULD GO BOTH RENTAL PROPERTIES, SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE FOREFRONT RIGHT NOW THAT YOU SAW IN THE NEWS.

JUST WANT TO MAYBE REMIND YOU ALL? THERE WAS A REAL BAD FIRE IN NEW YORK ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO IN AN APARTMENT FIRE IN THAT APARTMENT FIRE, THERE'S SOME STUDIES COMING IN RIGHT NOW.

THE FULL INVESTIGATION IS NOT THERE, BUT THAT APARTMENT FIRE WITH THE DEATHS, NOW IT'S THE THIRD. THE THIRD WORST FIRE IN UNITED STATES, THE UNITED STATES, IN THE LAST 50 YEARS. UM, THE STUDIES ARE.

UH, SO THE APARTMENT RIGHT NOW, THEY'VE GOT EVIDENCE THAT RESIDENTS WERE COMPLAINING OF NO CENTRAL HEAT, SO THEY WERE BURNING SPACE HEATERS.

IT WAS A SPACE HEATER THAT STARTED THE FIRE.

THEY HAD AUTOMATIC CLOSING DOORS.

THE CITY HAS PASSED.

CITY OF NEW YORK PASSED A FIRE SPRINKLER REQUIREMENT FOR APARTMENTS, OR THEY CAN PUT AUTOMATIC CLOSING DOORS TO STOP THE FIRE.

WELL, THE CLOSING DOORS DIDN'T WORK, SO THE FIRE WENT RAMPANT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PLACE AND THEN ALSO BLOCKED FIRE ESCAPES.

SO THESE INSPECTIONS HELP WITH THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I COULDN'T IMAGINE, 20, I THINK IT'S THE DEATH TOLL IS UP TO TWENTY TWO RIGHT NOW, NINE OF WHICH BEING KIDS TRYING TO FIND THAT SORRY, I GET EMOTIONAL TRYING TO FIND THAT THAT FIRE ESCAPE AND IT'S BLOCKED.

THIS INSPECTION WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

AND THEN I'LL PUT MY TWO CENTS IN AND I'LL STEP AWAY FROM THE MARRIAGE TABLE AS WELL.

LIKE CHIEF SAID IN MY VOLUNTEER WORK HERE IN THE CITY, AS A FIREMAN, AS A PARAMEDIC.

I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GO IN A LOT OF THESE HOMES.

WE, LIKE CHIEF SAID, WE DON'T ASK ARE YOU A RENTAL OR YOUR HOMEOWNER.

BUT LET ME TELL YOU, FOLKS, THERE'S A REALLY SOME HOUSES THAT I THAT WE HAVE GONE INTO WHERE THEY TELL YOU, DON'T STEP THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO FALL THROUGH THE FLOOR.

JUST THE OTHER DAY, I HAD EMS, CONTACT ME AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THROUGH THE STAIRWELL.

YOU COULDN'T EVEN GET TWO PEOPLE TO COME DOWN THE STAIRWELL BECAUSE THERE WAS FIXING TO FALL DOWN. SO WE HAVE SOME THINGS.

I THINK THIS PROGRAM CAN IDENTIFY EARLY AND HELP US GET TO THAT POINT.

ALSO, LIKE JOHN, GOVERNMENT OVERREACH, ARE WE THERE TOO MUCH? BUT WHEN I HAVE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND WHERE THE ROOF IS CAVING IN, THERE WERE ELECTRICAL OUTLET THERE HANGING A LIGHT BULB FROM CABLE, FROM LIGHTING, WIRING WITH NO FIXTURE.

YOU'RE GOING, HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT THINKING, COULD THAT CATCH ON FIRE TONIGHT? AM I GOING TO GET OUT OF THAT? LIKE CHIEF SAID, IS THERE A FIRE, A FIRE ALARM? IS THERE A CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR? DO THEY HAVE A FIRE EXTINGUISHER IN THEIR HOUSE? AND SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF MAKING SURE THAT WE COMMUNICATE IT.

WE ADVOCATE IT.

WE SHOW THE NEED FOR IT TO SPACE IT.

DO WE PROLONG? DO WE BREAK IT OUT? DO WE PHASE IT?

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WHOEVER YOU ARE, WHETHER YOU RENT OR YOU'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO PURCHASE, LET'S MAKE YOUR [INAUDIBLE] FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME APARTMENTS THAT ARE DILAPIDATED.

WE DO HAVE SOME HOUSES THAT ARE SAME WAY.

AND IT MAY ONLY TAKE 10 YEARS TO GET THERE AND MAYBE TAKING 20 YEARS TO GET THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO EXPLORE AND SEE.

I KNOW, LINDSAY, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT WORK WITH STAFF AND YOURSELF AND RESEARCHING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT KIND OF MOVE FORWARD.

LITTLE PIECES, HOW WE DO IT.

AND YOU KNOW, I'M WITH JOHN AND WITH TRAVIS.

HOW DO WE GET THERE? HOW DO WE GET TO THAT POINT? SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

I'VE SEEN OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE PAPER, THAT THEY HAVE HAD A HUGE DEBATE GOING BACK AND FORTH. WHERE DO YOU GO? BUT DO WE ARE WE THE CITY THAT KIND OF BITES THE BULLET AND KIND OF TAKES IT BY THE HORNS AND SAYS IT ANGLETON WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THIS, YOU KNOW, MY TWO CENTS I'LL PUT THE MAYOR'S HAT BACK ON. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST GET YOUR FEEDBACK.

I MEAN, WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU DO YOU WANT US TO GO? DO YOU WANT US TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE A COMMUNITY INPUT TASK FORCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN, I THINK I ABSOLUTELY THINK THAT'S NEEDED.

I'VE DONE SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

I'VE CONTACTED APARTMENT MANAGERS AND OWNERS AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

SURPRISINGLY, THEY WEREN'T TOTALLY OPPOSED TO IT.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO OPEN THE DIALOG.

MAYBE THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, IT HELPS THE APARTMENT OWNER HAVE TEETH TO THE TO THE PROPERTY RENTER.

HEY, DON'T DESTROY YOUR APARTMENT.

DON'T PUT HOLES IN THE WALLS. LET'S LET'S KIND OF KEEP IT TOGETHER HERE.

SO MAYBE TAKE IT FROM THAT SPIN OUT ON IT.

I JUST I WAS THINKING I WAS THINKING.

WELL, MAYOR WAS TALKING THAT, YOU KNOW, I HEAR I I KNOW AND FACEBOOK OR FACEBOOK, LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE CHIMING IN HERE AND IT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS KIND OF THINKING.

THE SAME THING WAS THAT THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT AND OVERREACH.

TWO THINGS ONE, YOU NEED ANOTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSON, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE TIED TO THIS. YOU NEED ANOTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSON.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, EDUCATION OF EVERYONE WHO RENTS A HOUSE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT IF THEY SEE SOMETHING, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM A CHECKLIST OF THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD CHECK IN, LET THEM REPORT.

AND I INCLUDED HOW THE, YOU KNOW, OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, RENTERS RIGHTS AND ALL THAT INFORMATION INCLUDED BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTING WHEN SOMEONE OPENS IT.

BUT I THINK IF YOU SOLICIT THAT TO THE APARTMENTS AND TO THE RENTAL BUSINESSES THAT I GUARANTEE YOU, SOME PEOPLE, MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, I, THERE'S AN ISSUE IN THIS HOUSE IN MY LANDLORD'S NOT FIXING IT, WILL YOU COME LOOK AT THIS.

AS OPPOSED TO THE GOVERNMENT SAYING, I'M COMING IN YOUR HOUSE TO GO, LOOK AT THIS.

I THINK IT'S RECEIVED A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT YOU DO NEED ANOTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSON.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO TIE A HEAD COUNT TO THIS BECAUSE IT'S A SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY IN GOVERNMENT THAT ONCE YOU HAVE THE REVENUE STREAM AND YOU HAVE THE HEAD COUNT AND YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP THE HEAD COUNT BECAUSE THE REVENUE STREAM AND SAY YOU JUST MADE MY MY BUDGET REQUEST A LOT EASIER, I WOULD SUPPORT YOU ON IT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE FORCING OURSELVES INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES.

BUT I DO THINK EDUCATION OF THE CITIZENRY THAT YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO, TO SAY SOMETHING, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG IN YOUR IN YOUR RENTER.

I FULLY AGREE.

THE THING IS IS I THINK THE SEQUENCING AS PROPOSED, WOULD BE TO HAVE THE INSPECTION CONDUCTED BEFORE THE TENANT ACTUALLY MOVES IN.

I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S NOT IT'S NOT INCONGRUENT WITH.

I MEAN, I DEFER THAT TO LEGAL, BUT IT'S NOT INCONGRUENT WITH THE FOURTH AMENDMENT ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURES OR SOMETHING.

SO THAT SOUNDS RIGHT.

SO NOW THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO YOU PRESENT THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING DONE.

BEFORE A NEW RENTER ENTERS INTO THAT EITHER HOME OR APARTMENT, IT WOULD NOT BE DONE WITH SOMETHING. WHEN THE PERSON TAKES OCCUPANCY, WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO INTO THEIR HOUSE, CORRECT? I MEAN, DIDN'T I SAY RENTER MAY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEIR LANDLORD OR WHATEVER THEY HAVE, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN WHAT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY OF GOING INTO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE. WE'RE CHECKING AND MAKING SURE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THINK OF AN OCCUPANT FOR TWO YEARS, OK, SOMEBODY'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR TWO YEARS, IT'S NOW THAT THAT THAT HOME OR THAT APARTMENTS AVAILABLE, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME WHILE IT'S ON THE MARKET THAT THEY'VE GOT TO CONTACT US, HEY, WE'VE GOT A NEW RENTER COMING IN THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE IN TWO WEEKS, WE NEED THIS EXAMINED.

BAM! I MEAN, THAT HAS TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE TAKE A RESPONSIVE EFFORT FROM THE CITY AS

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AND SOME PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY HOUSES ARE COULD BE A MONTH TO MONTH TYPE SITUATION.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS HERE, THOUGH, IS ANNUAL OR TENANT CHANGE.

THERE WOULD BE AN INSPECTION. YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GEAR IS TOWARDS A TENANT CHANGE VERSUS AN ANNUAL INSPECTION.

IF YOU WANTED TO SAY LIKE A GENERAL PREMISES OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE EXTERIOR OF A [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE GOING TO WALK AROUND IT.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BREEZE OR WHATEVER WE CALL THE FIRE ESCAPES ARE BEING CLEARED, OK, THAT THE THE ALARMS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE APARTMENT ARE FUNCTIONAL AND ALL THAT SORT STUFF. YOU CAN DO A GENERAL ANNUAL LIKE THAT, BUT RESIDENTIAL.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNMENT HAS THIS RIGHT TO GO ON TO SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND EXAMINE IT, AND I THINK I CAN GIVE YOU SOME CASE LAW TO BACK THAT UP.

BUT UM, THE UH, THE HOWEVER, IN THE INTERIM, WHEN THERE'S A SITUATION WHEN AN OCCUPANT HAS LEFT THE RESIDENCE, OK, AND NOW LET'S BACK UP FOR RENT AND THERE'S AGREEMENT IN PLACE AND THIS PERSON CAN TAKE, THAT'S WHEN THE CITY HAS TO GO IN BEFORE THAT, THAT'S TIME.

IT'S A TIMING MECHANISM, AND I DO WANT TO FIND THAT BALANCE FROM RESPECTING.

I JUST I WANT THE IDEA OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE.

THAT'S WHAT I KEEP COMING BACK TOO.

OF YEAH, AND WE'RE SEEING GOVERNMENT OVERREACH, BUT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OF THE GOVERNMENT, SO THAT'S MY OPINION.

COULD I HAVE THE RENTER REACH OUT TO THE SEAT, HAVE THEM DO A SELF INSPECTION IF THEY GRANT PERMISSION? BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

CONSENSUAL. BUT IF THIS IS THE PART ABOUT PAYMENT, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT IS THE RENT OR THE RENT. IT SHOULD BE THE PROPERTY OWNER THE WAY THE POLICY IS PRESENTED.

THAT'LL NEVER HAPPEN.

THEY'LL JUST PASS IT ON. BUT THAT'S WELL, THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER ARGUMENTS THAT WAS PRESENTED IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROGRAM.

YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT YEAH, ON THE OTHER HAND, IF BUT YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, COST OF DOING BUSINESS BECAUSE I HAVE GOTTEN THE EMAIL OR THE FACEBOOK MESSAGE, SOMEBODY SENDS A PICTURE OF THEIR HOUSE AND THERE'S MOLD ALL IN IT.

THEY SAY, COME FIX THIS.

AND I SAID, WELL, WE CAN'T, BUT WHAT DO WE DO BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S BEEN A HABITUAL PROBLEM HAVING MOLD GROWING ON THEIR WALLS AND THEY REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY AND SAYS, I NEED HELP, AND THIS WILL BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

OK, LET'S WHY DO YOU HAVE MOLD? LET'S GO DO AN INSPECTION.

I THINK THEY HANDLED IT, BUT I GET THOSE, YOU KNOW, JOHN, IF YOU GET HIM OR ANYBODY ELSE DOES, BUT WE GET THEM FROM TIME TO TIME.

BUT MAYOR, DO TACKLE YOUR SUGGESTION CONCERNING SELF INSPECTIONS.

CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE SPECIALIZED TRAINING, FIRE INSPECTORS HAVE SPECIALIZED TRAINING AND THERE NEEDS TO BE THAT BACKGROUND AND KNOWLEDGE ON THAT IN ORDER TO KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR. SO I WOULD I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST THAT.

DO YOU WANT TO COME, COME THE MIKE? WHAT ABOUT ON THE THE APARTMENTS LIKE SUMMER HOUSE APARTMENTS BY THE FOOTBALL STADIUM? THEY HAVE FIRE INSPECTORS EITHER ANNUALLY OR SEMI-ANNUALLY, EITHER ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.

THEY HAVE THEY CHECKED THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN EACH UNIT.

THEY CHECK EVERYTHING AND THEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE INSPECTIONS IN THOSE.

COULD THEY PROVIDE YOU WITH INSPECTION REPORTS IN LIEU OF SOME OF THE NEWER ONES, I THINK ACCOMMODATE THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND NOT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE ONE OVER ON, I GUESS, HENDERSON ROAD, THE YELLOW, WHATEVER.

THEY MAY BE THE SAME WAY THE SAME OWNER AND THEY MAY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. BUT WHAT I FOUND IN AND I'M SURE YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU GO AROUND THE OLD PART OF TOWN. SO A LOT OF THESE OLD HOUSES THAT ARE ABSENTEE LANDLORDS, SOME PEOPLE ARE IN THERE FOR YEARS AT A TIME.

SO THE IDEA OF TRANSITION FROM RENTER TO RENTER MAY NOT BE THAT.

I KNOW NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE LOTS OF HOUSES AND THEY HAVE SOME RENTERS THEY'VE HAD OVER 10 YEARS AND THEY HAVEN'T MOVED SO.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF WHAT WE CALL THE VULNERABLE POPULATION OF THE COMMUNITY, AND I DON'T KNOW THE BEST WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND.

BUT YOU SAID I UNDERSTAND WHAT MARK WAS SAYING.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NEW HOUSES.

I MEAN, EVEN AT HERITAGE OAKS.

WE HAVE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT MOVED AND KEPT THEIR HOUSE AS RENTAL PROPERTY, AND THEY'RE JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS OLD, WENT TO ALL THE CITY INSPECTIONS.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT, BUT I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE AREAS OF TOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE ONES THAT THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF, AND THE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE HESITANT TO CALL FOR HELP BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT WANT OTHER PEOPLE IN.

SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I MAY BE AFRAID THEY'RE GOING TO GET THROWN OUT FOR SUPPORTING. IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO KIND OF NEED TO PROTECT A LITTLE BIT TOO.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I TOLD LINDSAY WHEN SHE BROUGHT THIS UP, YOU KNOW WE OUGHT [INAUDIBLE] INTO SOMETHING AND WORKING ON THE BLIGHT AROUND TOWN.

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BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR.

COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM. ABSOLUTELY.

JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

PLEASE, SIR. YEAH, I'M DON MALONE.

I'M RETIRED FROM THE CITY OF RICHWOOD, AND I FILL IN FOR LINDSEY AND THEM WHEN THEY SHORTHANDED ON INSPECTORS.

I'M A BUILDING INSPECTOR, GENERAL PLUMBING INSPECTOR.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU MY OBSERVATION ON IT WHEN WE WORK FOR RICHWOOD, THE ONLY TIME WE DID INSPECTIONS WAS WITH A RENTER MOVED OUT OF A HOUSE OR AN APARTMENT.

THEN WE WOULD GO IN THERE WHEN IT WAS EMPTY AND THEN TAKE IT ALL OUT.

AND JUST LIKE THE FIRE CHIEF WAS SAYING A WHILE AGO, YOU GO IN THERE AND NINE TIMES OUT OF 10 AND RENT HOMES, ESPECIALLY, THERE'S ALWAYS SMOKE DETECTORS THAT ARE EITHER MISSING OR YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BATTERIES IN THEM.

THE OLD HOUSES DON'T HAVE TO BE HARD WIRED LIKE THE NEW CODES CALLED FOR.

SO ALL THEY HAVE IS THE BATTERIES DEPEND ON THEM.

AND BASICALLY, IT'S A SAFETY INSPECTION OF WHAT I LOOK FOR IS THE SMOKE DETECTORS, THE HOT COLD WATER AND ALL THE PLUMBING FIXTURES.

IN THE KITCHEN, MOST OLD HOUSES DON'T HAVE DFCI RECEPTACLES IN THE KITCHEN OR THE BATHROOMS. OPERATING OUTSIDE RECEPTACLE, SO WE MAKE THE WHOEVER THE OWNER HERE, THE LANDLORD OR WHATEVER WE MAKE THEM, IT'S AN EASY FIX ON RECEPTACLES.

ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS TAKE OUT THE OLD RECEPTACLES AND PUT IN A RESETTABLE DFCI RECEPTACLE IN THERE AND FOR FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM IN THE KITCHEN.

AND IT'S PRETTY EASY FIX.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CHECK THE SHEETROCK FOR CRACKS, AND IT'S NOT LIKE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY INSPECTION. IT'S JUST A SAFETY INSPECTION.

IT'S LIKE A FIRE CHIEF SAID THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

SO IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTES TO GO IN THERE AND DO ONE.

AND IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE IN THERE.

AT LEAST THEY'LL HAVE WORKING SMOKE DETECTORS AND KNOW SOUND ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S MY TWO CENTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DON.

LINDSAY IS JUST KIND OF A THOUGHT POPPED UP.

YOU KNOW, EACH RENTAL PROPERTY IS A BUSINESS LIKE MAYBE LIKE A BUSINESS INSPECTION.

JUST FLIPPING THE SIDE OF IT.

BUT YOU CAN TOSS THAT AROUND.

CHEW ON THAT AS WELL. JUST IT IS A BUSINESS FOR SOMEBODY AS WELL.

JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.

WILL, DO. SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE AN OPEN ENDED SUBJECT FOREVER.

SO IF I COULD GET SOME DIRECTION ON WHEN TO BRING THIS BACK, HOW YOU'D LIKE ME TO NAVIGATE THIS? SO I'LL GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION AFTERWARDS.

ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. I LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. HE'S GOING TO LIGHTEN THE LOAD AND SAVE US 30 MINUTES INSTEAD OF, OH YEAH, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO ANYBODY ELSE FOR MS. LINDSAY? I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU PUT IN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CARL.

IS SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AND THAT'S A HARD JOB OVER THERE.

CODE ENFORCEMENT. OK, MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

ITEM NUMBER 16, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON HERITAGE PARK SECTION THREE PRELIMINARY

[16. Discussion and possible action on Heritage Park Section Three preliminary plat and variances to Sections 23-11(I) and 23-25(B) of the City's Land Development Code.]

I GUESS THAT'S LINDSAY. THAT'S ME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

SO GOOD FEW MOVING PARTS ON THIS ONE THAT ARE DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA SUMMARY.

BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.

SO YES, THERE IS A VARIANCE AND AN EXCEPTION REQUEST ON THIS AND A LENGTHY RECOMMENDATION. SO WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS THE WAIVER REQUEST IS FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THE VARIANCE IS FOR A SECONDARY ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH EVENTUALLY WILL HAVE 89 LOTS.

AND THIS THIRD PHASE, I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE 30 LOTS.

SO THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED IS IT HAS A BOULEVARD ENTRANCE ALREADY.

HOWEVER, THE COMPLICATION IS THAT THERE IS A PROPERTY OWNERSHIP CONFLICT, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL EVER BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY NORTH TO CREATE A SECONDARY ACCESS BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY IS OWNED BY ANGLETON ISD, SO IT'S KIND OF LANDLOCKED FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS.

SO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT.

THERE'S ALSO THE EAST HENDERSON ROAD STUDY THAT'S GOING ON.

SO THESE ARE KIND OF SOME OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE WALK THROUGH THIS.

ALSO, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IS THERE'S A WET BOTTOM POND AND THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE MANAGED BY AN HOA A THE HOA, AS I UNDERSTAND, HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT MATERIALIZED IN TO BEING A WORKING BODY WITH ELECTED OR APPOINTED MEMBERS AND COLLECTION OF HOA FEES.

SO THOSE THE COLLECTION OF THOSE FEES WOULD GO TOWARD THE MAINTENANCE OF THIS POND AND

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SO THE DEVELOPER HAS ASKED FOR THE VARIANCE TO THE SECONDARY ACCESS.

STAFF AGREES WITH THAT.

HOWEVER, AFTER CONSULTING WITH OUR ENGINEERS, WE BELIEVE THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY OF SOME KIND SHOULD BE NECESSARY, AS WELL AS SOME TYPE OF PROOF IN ORDER TO APPROVE THIS PLAT EVENTUALLY. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT AT THE FINAL PLAT YET.

THAT'S JUST A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

BUT EVENTUALLY WE WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE PROOF THAT THE HOA IS ACTIVE AND COLLECTING FEES BECAUSE THAT POND AND THE GREEN SPACE WAS NOT CONVEYED TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE'S A NOTE ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR SECTION TWO.

ALL COMMON AREAS AND FACILITIES SHALL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AS STATED IN THE HERITAGE PARK COVENANT SECTIONS, AND THEY'RE LISTED RIGHT THERE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE SIX CRITERIA THAT ARE ENUMERATED IN THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MOTION, WHICH WE SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. YOU'LL SEE THAT.

AND AGAIN, THAT IS TO INCLUDE A TIA OR TRAFFIC STUDY AND ALLOW THE VARIANCE FOR THE SECONDARY ACCESS AS THERE IS A BOULEVARD ENTRANCE AND THEN REQUIRE A POND SURVEY AND VERIFICATION THAT THE DETENTION POND IS WORKING.

WELL, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE, DO YOU SAY, 79 HOMES? EIGHTY NINE TOTAL, EIGHTY NINE TOTAL WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.

AND HOW MANY IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR A SECONDARY 50? 50, 30, OH FOR THE THIRD SECTION.

WHAT'S OUR CURRENT REQUIREMENT FOR A SECONDARY ACCESS OVER 50 HOMES? OVER 30 OVER 30 HOMES? SO HOW MANY ARE THERE NOW? FIFTY NINE.

WAS A WAIVER GRANTED LAST TIME? OH, THERE'S NO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE FIRST OR SECOND SECTIONS.

THERE WAS NO THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT THAT HAD NEED TO BE MET.

WELL, I MEAN, I'VE DRIVEN OUT THERE MANY TIMES.

IT'S WELL DEVELOPED, I MEAN, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

I MEAN, IT'S. PRETTY WIDE OPEN AS FAR AS THE BOULEVARD ITSELF.

IT'D BE NICE IF THERE WOULD BE A WAY TO CONNECT UP THE BACKSIDE EVENTUALLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE WITH THE SCHOOL'S PERMISSION.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT WOULD BE DONE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO PLAN IT, WE PLAN WITH THE IDEA, I GUESS THE IDEA THAT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. SO BUT I REALLY HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE VARIANTS, TO BE HONEST.

CHRIS, HOW MANY MORE SECTIONS DO YOU HAVE PLANNED? QUICK. OH, SORRY.

MONTH, ISD.

ALL RIGHT, SO THAT ROAD LEADS TO NOWHERE.

RIGHT. OKAY. IS THE IDEA, THOUGH, I MEAN, IT'S A STUB OUT, SO IS THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD EVENTUALLY WHY NOT JUST MAKE CREATE ANOTHER CUL DE SAC AND TURN AROUND? BECAUSE HE'S TAKEN YOU'RE TAKEN TO THE EDGE OF YOUR PROPERTY THERE, RIGHT? CLINT, CAN YOU COME TO THE MIC, PLEASE? YEAH, YOU HAVE TO. SO THE RECORDING CAN CATCH YOU.

OK, SO WHAT'S THE QUESTION? I WAS JUST ASKING WHY NOT DO A TURNAROUND OR A CUL SAC THERE? BUT I MEAN, IT STILL PUT IT ON THE EDGE OF THAT PROPERTY? I DON'T KNOW. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I ALREADY SAID MY PART, SO.

AND ARE YOU GOING TO BE BUILDING ALL THE HOUSES IN HERE? I'M NOT FOR SURE YET AT THIS POINT, I HAVEN'T DECIDED.

TRYING TO PULL IT UP.

JUST LOOK AGAIN, THOUGH, IS THERE A REQUIREMENT THAT THIS ROAD EXTEND UP AND DEAD END AT

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WE CAN LAND A LOCK THAT PROPERTY IN THIS WELL, THE OWNER IS CONNECTIVITY TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY. YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THE I THINK YOU ALWAYS WANT TO LEAVE THAT OPEN CASE, THE SCHOOL DOES DECIDE TO SELL ANOTHER TRACK OFF.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BE ABLE TO.

OK, WELL, THAT'S NOT.

THAT'S TRUE. OK.

I MEAN, I WANT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE TIA.

THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

THIS IS A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION.

BUT COMES UP FROM THE SOUTH, HENDERSON, OBVIOUSLY EAST AND WEST AND WHATEVER THE NAME OF THE STREET GOING INTO. THE BOULEVARD GOING INTO THE SUBDIVISION.

THE BOULEVARD GOING INTO SUBDIVISION IS GOT A GRASSY MEDIAN.

TWO LANES IN, TWO LANES OUT.

PLENTY OF ACCESS, ADEQUATE ACCESS GOING IN BULK TO ROAD, COMING UP FROM THE SOUTH AS A THREE LANE STREET, TWO LANES GOING NORTH, ONE LANE GOING SOUTH.

THE NORTHBOUND LANES EITHER GO INTO THE SUBDIVISION RIGHT OR LEFT.

THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU GO ON THAT.

AH HENDERSON ROAD EAST BOUND, HAS A LEFT TURN LANE THERE TODAY.

THE THREE LANES, THRU LANE EAST, THROUGH LANE WEST AND A LEFT TURN LANE, WHICH TAKES YOU INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

THEN WESTBOUND HENDERSON ROAD HAS GOT A LEFT TURN LANE.

JUST MIRROR IMAGE FROM WHAT THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD IS.

SO IF SOMEONE IS GOING WESTBOUND ON HENDERSON AND THEY WANT TO TURN INTO THE SUBDIVISION, THE RIGHT LANE IS THE LANE YOU GET INTO TO GO INTO THE SUBDIVISION.

THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS GOING TO TELL YOU HOW MANY LANES YOU NEED TO HAVE IN EACH DIRECTION. TO ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER TRAFFIC COMES TO THAT INTERSECTION.

SO IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WHAT YOU.

THE ONLY ADDITION TO THIS INTERSECTION COULD POSSIBLY BE A WEST BOUND RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE INTO THE SUBDIVISION.

AND I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT THIS WOULD DRIVE A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE SUBDIVISION, I TAKE THIS TAKE THIS INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE AND COMPARE IT TO THE HENDERSON ROAD [INAUDIBLE] STREET INTERSECTION.

WE HAD TWO ROADS GOING EACH WAY THAT CARRY A WORLD OF TRAFFIC.

EXPONENTIALLY, PROBABLY MORE THAN THIS SUBDIVISION ENTRANCE IS RIGHT HERE.

IT'S GOT THE SAME LANE CONFIGURATION THERE, AT LEAST, IS WHAT YOU HAVE GOING INTO THIS SUBDIVISION. GO OVER TO BUCKTON HOSPITAL DRIVE.

YOU GOT A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION, FOUR WAY STOP.

EVERYBODY STOPS FOR EACH OTHER.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GAINING BY REQUIRING A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FROM THIS DEVELOPER FOR THIS SUBDIVISION.

THANK YOU, CECIL. SO MY, MY TAKE IS GIVE THEM A VARIANCE FOR THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ALSO. OK.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I UNDERSTAND THE POSSIBILITY OF A STUB OUT.

AND THE REASON FOR CONNECTIVITY, BUT WITH.

COULD YOU DO A LITTLE BUBBLE LIKE YOU HAVE ON THE VISIT TO THE WEST THERE? BUT YOU PUT IT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY TO THE TOP OF THAT STUB OUT.

I DON'T KNOW JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE TURN AROUND, I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW IT'S COST OF MONEY BUILDING.

SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR LIKE A TEMPORARY CUL DE SAC UNTIL WHERE THEY PUT THE ASPHALT ON BOTH SIDES. SO IT'S A CIRCLE WHICH WAS ACTUALLY DONE IN HERITAGE PARK AT THE BEGINNING.

TEMPORARY... YEAH, IT WAS SOMETHING AROUND THE CORNER RIGHT THERE.

I MEAN, I'M GUESS WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT FIRE.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF WHAT THE CONCERN IS.

SOMEBODY GOES STRAIGHT AND I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M JUST I MEAN.

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MIC] ANYWAY, WE DID THE FIRST SECTION WE OWNED THAT LAND ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE SCHOOL FOR THE NATATORIUM WAS BUILT, AND OUR INTENTIONS BACK WHEN WE DID FIRST SECTION WAS TO CONNECT OVER.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE SCHOOL WAS THERE AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE SOLD THAT LAND TO THE SCHOOL. I BELIEVE IN 2008 2009, ABOUT TIME THE RECESSION BEGAN AND THEY WANTED IT FOR SOMETHING. SO IT DID CREATE A PROBLEM FOR CLINT GETTING ANOTHER ACCESS OUT OF THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT TREVOR SAID IT IS A PRETTY WIDE OPEN AND THAT MEDIAN YOU SEE COMING IN.

WE DID A VERY LARGE MEDIAN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LANES ARE ON EACH SIDE, BUT IT'S IT WOULD IT WOULD ASSIST, BUT YOU KNOW, THE ACCESS. BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE AND I THINK YOU'VE ENCOUNTERED THESE SOMETIMES EVEN THOUGH THIS IS BEYOND WHAT YOU WANT FOR SECOND ENTRANCE.

BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO TO CREATE A SECOND ONE.

IT HAD TO BE WITH WITH A SCHOOL DISTRICT, WORK IN THE FUTURE ON SOME MORE LAND.

I KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE OR BOARD THAT'S LOOKING INTO THE ACCESS OR LOOKING INTO THEIR PROPERTIES ON WHAT THEIR NEXT STEP IS TO DO WITH SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES, I.E. UNLOAD SOME OF THE LAND OR START PURCHASING MORE LAND.

AND SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY, I THINK ONE DAY THAT LAND COULD COME AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT.

BUT. UM.

AGAIN, I'M OK WITH THE VARIANCES, EXCEPT I GUESS THE.

I WANT TO I GUESS I WOULD TAKE ONE POINT, WHICH WOULD BE THE POINT ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE A FUNCTIONAL DRAINAGE, THAT'S THE ONE THING I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY FUNCTIONAL, WHATEVER STUDY OR WHATEVER THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

BUT THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

IT'S LIKE YOU LOOK NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT HAS ISSUES WITH REQUIRE DETENTION PONDS BE CONSTRUCTED AND THEN AS YEARS GO BY, IT BECOMES A WILLOW THICKET OR CAT TAIL HEAVEN, SO THEY NEED TO BE MAINTAINED.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR HERITAGE PARK, SECTION THREE, PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THE VARIANCE OF SECTION TWENTY THREE DASH 11.

SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THE CITY ENGINEER COMMENTS ARE CLEARED WITH ANY FINAL PLAT SUBMITTAL.

TWO, CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR SECTION THREE SHOW A TEMPORARY TURNAROUND AT THE END OF ELM COURT AND THREE THE TENT.

ACTUALLY, THERE'S MORE. THREE, THE DETENTION RESERVE IS NOTED AS SERVING ALL THREE SECTIONS. FOUR, A TIA OR TRAFFIC STUDY.

I'M GOING TO WAIVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY AT THIS POINT.

FIVE, PROVIDE THE VERIFICATION OF AN ESTABLISHED ACTIVE HOA PRIOR TO FINAL APPLICATION.

AND I'M OPEN TO ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, COUNCIL, IF WE WANT TO TAKE THESE OUT AND SIX, PROVIDE VERIFICATION BY SURVEY AND ENGINEERING THAT THE EXISTING DETENTION POND FOR PHASE ONE OR TWO IS PROPERLY FUNCTIONING TO PROVIDE ANY NECESSARY MAINTENANCE TO THE POND PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION OF THE SECTION THREE DETENTION POND.

ANYTHING WE WANT TO STRIKE IN THAT MOTION.

I WILL SECOND IT AS YOU PRESENTED IT.

A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE JUST.

THERE WAS A THERE'S A SOME KIND OF A TRAFFIC STUDY ATTACHED TO THIS, WHAT IS THAT? TRAFFIC COUNTS OR SOMETHING.

I'M NOT SURE.

LET ME I'M JUST CURIOUS.

I CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW.

IT WAS DONE IN LONGHAND.

HOME 12, THREE, TWENTY ONE.

NEVER MIND, JUST CURIOUS, BUT WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.

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SO I'M IN MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT.

JUST TO BE CLEAR.

SECOND. YOU GOOD WITH THAT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

YES, SIR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, MISS LINDSEY.

ITEM NUMBER 17 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVISED MULBERRY FIELD SUBDIVISION

[17. Discussion and possible action on the revised Mulberry Fields Subdivision preliminary plat and variances.]

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT IS FOR MULBERRY FIELDS, AN APPROXIMATE 13 ACRE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF WEST MULBERRY STREET.

THIS ONE HAS.

THIS ONE WENT TO P AND Z EARLIER THIS MONTH, AND THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE COMMUNITY, ONE OF WHICH BEING AN AERIAL EASEMENT SO THAT CITY ENGINEERING, AS WELL AS CITY STAFF, TOLD THE DEVELOPER THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE THAT PLAT NEEDS TO BE RESUBMITTED, SHOWING THE AERIAL EASEMENTS FOR TEXAS NEW MEXICO POWER.

SO THAT IS ON THE PLAT AND.

AS FAR AS P&Z ACTION, FIVE VOTED IN FAVOR, ONE WAS OPPOSED, ONE ABSTAINED, AND CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU LINDSAY. IS THIS THE PROPERTY BY THE CELL TOWERS? YES, YES, SIR.

BEHIND THE DAYCARE CENTER OUT THERE FOR.

SO CAN YOU GIVE US A BRIEF AND KIND OF WHAT CHANGE FROM THEN UNTIL TODAY OR TILL NOW WHERE WE'RE AT NOW? WELL, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT COMMENTS WITH THE FIRST SUBMITTAL.

THIS SUBMITTAL DOES INCLUDE A VARIANCE TO SOME OF THE LOT SIZES.

THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED AS OF SIX POINT THREE, SO THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS SIXTY THREE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OR 60 FOOT FRONTAGE AND ONE HUNDRED FOOT LOT DEPTH.

AND BECAUSE OF THE SOMEWHAT AWKWARD SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY, IN ORDER TO MEET THE 60 FOOT ROAD RIGHT OF WAYS, RIGHTS OF WAY, THEY HAD TO REDO THEIR PLAT TO SHOW THAT RIGHT OF WAY ON THE ROAD, AND IT ENCROACHED ON THE DEPTH OF THE LOT SIZE.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT'S CHANGED.

SO THERE IS STILL AN OUTSTANDING VARIANCE TO SOME OF THE LOTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH SPECIFICALLY THEY ARE, BUT SOME OF THEM DON'T ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THE FOUR HUNDRED FOOT DEPTH.

THEY COME REALLY CLOSE, THOUGH THEY'RE IN THE NINETIES.

I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, THESE LOT SIZES GOT BIGGER.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT..

WIDER, I'M MORE SCARED OF THE THIRD QUARTER.

WELL, THAT'S JUST JUMPING OUT NOW.

I HAVEN'T REALLY REVIEWED COMPLETELY.

I KNOW USUALLY USUALLY PUT A BREAKDOWN ON WHAT SIZE DID THEY LOSE A NUMBER OF LOTS.

FORTY. 15.

SO THERE'S 44 TOTAL.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY LOST ANY.

YOU DIDN'T DOWNGRADE.

NO OF LOTS, DID YOU? OK, SO THEY LOST ONE LOT.

MM HMM. SO, LINDSAY, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE AGENDA SUMMARY YOU'RE REFERENCING 23.103, I THINK YOU MEANT 23.102.

SO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE MINUTES, WHENEVER WE MAKE A DECISION ON THIS AND WE LOOK BACK AT WHAT HAPPENED THIS EVENING, LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THAT RIGHT.

OK? TWENTY THREE, ONE OF THREE IS VARIANCES FOR FLOOD PURPOSES ONLY TWENTY THREE ONE HUNDRED TWO IS VARIANCES OF THE LDC.

OK, TEN FOUR, THANK YOU.

THAT ONE'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE I HAVE.

WHAT PAGE IS THE ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT? I HAVE I'M ON PAGE 280, I'M ON PAGE 280.

IT. YEAH, CAUSE THAT HAS MORE OF A BEND IN THE TURN, THE CUL DE SAC TYPE.

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I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS THE OFFICIAL TERM, BUT THANK YOU.

HERE'S THE. HMM.

SMART SAYS TWO THIRTY FIVE.

YOU KNOW. EXACTLY.

280 IS THE FINAL RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? TWO EIGHTY IS THE PLAT.

THE PAGE 280 IS THE PLOT WE WANT TO BE FOCUSED ON, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S THE CORRECT ONE.

OK, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT ONE.

THANK YOU. YES SIR.

OH MY GOODNESS. LINDSAY, I'M LOOKING AT A LOT AREA TABLE CHART.

REFRESH MY MEMORY, WHAT'S THE AREA THAT THE SQUARE FOOT AREA THAT WE'RE OUR TARGET WAS OR WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT LIKE SIX THOUSAND, SEVEN THOUSAND, EIGHT THOUSAND? SIXTY THREE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

THERE'S.

FOR THE RESTRICTED RESERVE A, A TWO POINT TWENTY NINE ACRES? NOW, WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR MAINTAINING THAT PROPERTY? SO I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSED HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT AREA IN THE GREEN SPACE ALSO.

YOU CAN GO THROUGH SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY TO GET TO IT.

WHAT'S IT? SO I'M TOLD THERE'S DRAINAGE EASEMENTS THAT 20 FOOT DE ON A LOT FIVE.

AND THERE'S ONE COMING IN OFF A LOT, 10 ON THE NORTH SIDE.

GOTCHA.

BUT TO. I FOUND IT.

OK. WELL, I'LL JUST ONE LITTLE CONCERN THAT I HAVE BY LOOKING AT THIS AND JUST MAYBE NOTHING, BUT THAT VERY FIRST TURN IN, WHICH I BELIEVE IS CALLED NICOLET DRIVE LOTS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE SHOW TO BE A LITTLE LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET IN DEPTH.

BUT THEY ALSO BACK UP TO THE TINY TREASURER'S LEARNING CENTER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THE THE PROPERTY LINE LOOKS LIKE ON THE BACKSIDE OF TINY TREASURES LEARNING CENTER. TO PUT IT RIGHT UP AGAINST A DAYCARE.

UM. I KNOW IT'S I GUESS WHAT, FIVE FEET LESS THAN.

I UNDERSTAND IS NOT QUITE TWO YARDS.

I DON'T KNOW. ARE YOU THE BUILDER ALSO OR JUST OR DO WE HAVE A DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO THE BUILDER IS GOING TO BE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE TO PUT ON THESE? SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BUILDERS I WORK WITH.

PRIMARILY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO BUILD A BUILD A HOME THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE THREE 50 TO FOUR 50 RANGE.

SO RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, YOU CAN BACK INTO WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.

HOUSES ARE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR SELLING BETWEEN ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY AND A HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT.

SO REALISTICALLY, TWO STOREY TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT HOMES WOULD BE PRETTY TYPICAL.

SO YOU'LL BE JUST JUST INSIDE THE SETBACKS ON THE BACK SIDE.

I WORKED WITH 90 FOOT LOT, DEPP.

WE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT WILL FIT A LITTLE BIT MORE A LITTLE BIT WIDER WITH THE BUILDERS THAT I WORK WITH.

BUT WHENEVER I BROUGHT IT TO THEM, THEY ALL SAID THAT THEY'VE GOT PLENTY OF HOMES THAT WILL THE WOLF HEAD ON THERE VERY WELL TO STILL ALLOW THE HOMEOWNER TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL BACKYARD.

HOW MUCH OF A BACKYARD? I FEEL LIKE THAT'S IT'S A RELATIVE TERM.

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YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU THINK YOU'VE GOT A 20 FOOT BUILD SET BACK, I KNOW FOR SOME OF THE HOUSES THAT I'M BUILDING THAT ARE EXACTLY IN THAT PARAMETER, THERE ARE THERE ARE 40 FOOT DEEP. SO IF YOU I MEAN, FORTY TO FORTY FIVE, I THINK THEY'RE ARE TECHNICALLY FORTY THREE FOOT DEEP. SO WHENEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW YOU'RE 20 FOOT SETBACK ON THE FRONT, YOU KNOW, PLUS ANOTHER FORTY THREE FEET, YOU'RE SIXTY THREE FEET.

A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE NINETY FIVE OR NINETY SEVEN, SO THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER 30 FOOT DEEP.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT A HALF ACRE HOME SITE.

I WISH IT, I WISH IT WAS OR IT COULD BE.

BUT WITH THIS, THIS AWKWARD SHAPE OF THIS PARTICULAR TRACK, WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.

UM, WE HAD TO ADJUST BECAUSE WE HAD TO PUT IN THIS 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, THEN ALL OF ALL OF THE LOTS WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE.

BUT WE WANTED TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON WHAT THEY THEY DEEMED AS THE MOST IMPORTANT, WHICH WAS THE 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.

YOU. TYPICAL LOT DETAIL SHEET THERE WE ARE PUTTING A 45 BY 60 FOOT LOT.

THANK YOU, 20 FOOT FRONT BUILDING LINE, 60 FEET DEEP GIVES YOU A TOTAL OF 80 FEET, AND IF YOU'VE GOT A 95 FOOT LOT, THAT'S 15 FEET IN THE BACKYARD, 100 FOOT LOT, IT'S 20 FEET IN THE BACKYARD. 90 FOOT LOT THAT'S 10 FEET IN THE BACKYARD, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A 60 FOOT DEEP HOUSE IN THERE, THAT'S THAT'S NOT MUCH YARD.

OBVIOUSLY, FOR THE 90 FOOT DOVE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO MORE A WIDER HOME AS OPPOSED TO A DEEPER HOME. YES, SIR.

SO I REALIZE THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT.

THIS IS JUST SOMETHING. SHOW THE HOUSE WE WOULD PUT A LOT.

I STILL HAVE MAJOR ISSUES WITH AN ACCESS POINT ON STATE HIGHWAY THIRTY FIVE.

I SAID THAT THE FIRST TIME I'M A STAY CONSISTENT WITH THAT, THAT I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT. YOU HAVE A LIGHT RIGHT THERE AT SOUTH WALKER AND 35 AND ABOUT A HUNDRED YARDS AWAY, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THE IF NOT EVEN 100 YARDS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING ANOTHER ROAD WITH MANY HOUSES.

FORTY THREE, FORTY FOUR.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO A DAY CARE.

AND I'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC AT PICK UP AND DROP OFF TIMES WITH TINY TREASURES AS WELL.

YEAH, I SAT THERE THIS AFTERNOON FOR ABOUT AN HOUR BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE COUNCIL. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T WASN'T OVERWHELMING AND IT DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE.

YOU'VE SEEN IT. I APPRECIATE IT.

THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TWO POINTS OF EGRESS FOR ONLY FORTY FOUR HOMES.

COUNCIL, WHAT IS Y'ALLS? MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, PLEASURE.

YOU'RE MISSING A DIMENSION ON LOT 11 OF BLOCK ONE, WHERE IT'S GOT THE LITTLE TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR SURVEY AND TELL TO FILL IT IN.

HMM. I GUESS.

I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

WAS THIS NOT THE PROPERTY THAT MR. SCHAEFER WAS ADDRESSING EARLIER, AND THIS IS.

HAVE WE? HE RAISED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

DO THEY ARE THEY GERMANE? DO WE HAVE ANY REAL CONCERNS WITH EARLY EASEMENTS AND OR WETLANDS, ANYBODY FROM THE CITY? YEAH, COUNCILMAN, THE WETLAND ISSUE WOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BEFORE A FINAL PLAT APPLICATION CAN BE SUBMITTED. THANK YOU.

[03:50:01]

DO YOU MIND IF MY ENGINEER ADDRESSES THIS? SURE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE GO AHEAD HERE.

GOOD ENGINEERING CONSULTING ENGINEER FOR MR. COREY BOYER.

THIS SITE WE DID HAVE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER REVIEW IT.

IT IS A UPLAND WETLAND FRESHWATER.

SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS IS A NON JURISDICTIONAL IS NOT CONNECTED TO ANY TYPE OF TRIBUTARY. OR IS IT WITHIN THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN? SO IS IT'S AN ISOLATED BUT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE WERE OUT, THERE WAS PROBABLY AN OLD TANK.

YOU KNOW, THE BACK THEN WHEN WHOEVER GRAZED IT DUG A POND, BUT WE WALKED IT, LOOKED AT IT, HAD OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER REVIEW IT AS WELL, AND WE'LL PROVIDE A LETTER OF COMPLIANCE WITH AS PART OF OUR PLANS IN THE MIDDLE WITH THE CITY.

ARE Y'ALL DOING JUST COVERING GUTTER? Y'ALL DOING STORM SEWERS, WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING STORM [INAUDIBLE] SEWER TYING INTO THE DETENTION POND WILL BE A DRY DETENTION POND AND THEN ALL FALL INTO THE STORM SEWER SYSTEM. WHERE DO YOU OUTFALL TO THE STREET? YES, WALKER STREET, YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. THE YOU'RE CONSULTING CITY ENGINEER HAS REVIEWED THE THE LAYOUT OF THE STORM SEWER CONFIGURATION.

I DON'T THINK HE HAD ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT.

THE DETENTION PART WILL BE SIZE BASED ON ISD, ANGLETON AND THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT CRITERIA. WE'VE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATION WITH WITH BAKER LAWSON REGARDING THAT ISSUE.

JOHN, CAN YOU GO? YES.

SO IF YOU TAKE AN AREA LIKE THIS THAT RIGHT NOW HAS, IT'S WIDE OPEN, THERE'S NO IMPERVIOUS COVER TO IT ANYWHERE.

AND THE PEOPLE ON MARSHALL HAVE COMPLAINED IN THE PAST ABOUT DRAINAGE ISSUES AND.

YOU KNOW THIS THIS SEEMS TO BE A RUN OFF AREA, AND I THINK MR. SCHAEFER HAS ACTUALLY SENT US PICTURES BEFORE WITH ALL THE WATER IN THE BACKPACK THERE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. AND SO IF YOU TAKE ALL THIS AND YOU DEVELOP IT AND TO HIS STANDARDS RIGHT THERE, IS THAT YOUR ATLAS FIVE HUNDRED STANDARD? THE ATLAS 14 STANDARD? YES. THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AREN'T ATLAS 14 REQUIREMENTS.

I KNOW, BUT YOU TOLD US ONCE BEFORE THAT WE SHOULD BE BUILDING TO THAT.

YOU SHOULD BE BUILDING TO THAT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT THAT THAT PUT INTO PRACTICE AS FAR AS ORDINANCE OR ANYTHING.

BUT WHAT HE'S DOING IS HE'LL HAVE TO MEET THE CURRENT CRITERIA THAT THE CITY HAS AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE, AND THAT'LL BE DONE AS PART OF HIS CONSTRUCTION PLANS, IS COLLECTING ALL THE WATER IN THAT AREA TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T RUN OFF TO ADJACENT AREAS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH IT. BUT IT'S GOING TO RUNOFF.

IT'S GOING TO RUN OFF TO NORTH WALKER, RIGHT? IT'S WHERE HE'S GOING TO TAKE IT TO.

YEAH, YEAH, IT'LL GOES THROUGH WALKER.

HE'LL HAVE TO PUT A RESTRICTOR IN IT TO MAKE SURE HE DOESN'T PUT IN MORE WATER INTO NORTH WALKER. YOU'RE TAKING THE STORM SEWER DOWN, LYNWOOD STRAIGHT TO WALKERS, IS THAT HOW YOU GET INTO WALKER? SURE, I'M JUST ASKING YOU, GENERAL.

I WASN'T ASKING YOU SPECIFIC, JUST GENERAL OF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TAKING WETLAND.

AND AS THE ENGINEER HAS STATED, IT'S FRESHWATER.

IT'S NOT RUNNING OFF ANYWHERE ELSE.

IT'S JUST COLLECTING, WHICH MEANS WHEN IT RAINS, THAT WATER RUNS IN THERE AND HOLDS IT.

AND THAT'S KIND OF A FORM OF OUR DRAINAGE AT THE MOMENT.

AND WHAT HE'LL DO IS, AGAIN, HE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT AND HE'LL PROVIDE INFORMATION IF THERE'S ANY MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS YOU'LL HAVE TO MITIGATE AT THAT TIME.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS ALONG WITH A DETERMINATION OF EVERYTHING OUT THERE.

THE FIRST STATEMENT. HMM.

THE TREE STANDARDS, HAS THAT BEEN MET? THIS IS JUST THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.

NOT THERE YET. OK.

[03:55:03]

OK. AND THE STANDARD IS ANYTHING OLDER THAN CECIL.

NOW I WILL SAY WE DID COVER THAT IN OUR IN OUR DOG MEETING WITH THEM OR DEVELOPMENT ANGLETON WORKING GROUP, SO THEY'RE AWARE.

OK, I JUST SEEN A BUNCH OF TREES THAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO COME DOWN AND WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.

HMM. ALL RIGHT, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS WE DO HAVE THE DEVELOPER AND THE ENGINEER HERE OR WHAT IS Y'ALL'S PLEASURE? WHERE I WOULD RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF MULBERRY FUELS REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CORRECTION OF COMMENTS PROVIDED BY THE CITY'S ENGINEER PRIOR TO THE RECEIPT OF THE FINAL PLAT APPLICATION.

HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT COUNCILWOMAN BOOTH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? CAN WE REVISE THAT TO INCLUDE THE VARIANTS? THE VARIANCE TO THE LOT DEPTH, PLEASE.

I DON'T BELIEVE I INCLUDED THAT IN THE RECOMMENDED A MOTION.

AND TO ALLOW THE RECOMMENDED VARIANCES, LOT, DEPTH, VARIANCES.

ALL RIGHT. HAVE A MOTION WITH THE CORRECTED MOTION OF A SECOND.

UM, FOR A SECOND.

IN REGARDS TO JOHN'S COMMENT ABOUT TRAFFIC.

WE HAVE A PLAN ON ANY ANALYSIS.

FOR THAT, OR YOU'RE JUST NOT THERE THAT THERE YET FOR THAT STEP OR.

NO, BUT THAT'LL BE PART OF THEIR SUBMITTAL, THOUGH THEY'LL NEED TO PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY. IT'S.

IT NECESSITATES ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THERE BEING A VARIANCE FOR THE SECONDARY ACCESS, IT'S APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT A MAJOR CORRIDOR ALONG THIRTY FIVE.

UM, WELL, THEY NEED.

THE STATE'S APPROVAL FOR YES, YES, SO THEY WILL HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FROM TXDOT AND THEY HAVE A PRETTY EXTENSIVE VETTING PROCESS.

OKAY. RIGHT.

I WILL SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND SECOND BY A COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL CALL FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED AYE.

THAT IS THREE FOR-TWO AGAINST, MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHTY, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

MOVING ON. NUMBER 18 DISCUSSION, EXCUSE ME, SORRY GUYS.

[18. Discussion and possible action on the Century Coale Road Business Park final replat.]

I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU MS. LINDSAY.

YES, SIR. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MUCH EASIER ONE.

VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THIS IS THE CENTURY COAL ROAD BUSINESS PARK, AN APPROXIMATE NINE POINT THREE ACRES.

THIS IS IN A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE.

AND THIS WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON JANUARY 3RD WITH UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

AND THERE'S NO SPECIAL VARIANCES REQUESTED HERE.

SO, LIKE I SAID, VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

NOW THIS COMES TO US ONCE BEFORE.

IS THIS THE INDUSTRIAL SLASH HOUSING PROJECT.

YES, SO THIS WAS FIRST HEARD, I BELIEVE, ON AUGUST 24TH.

CORRECT. BUT IS THIS ONE?IS YES, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 220.

SORT OF KEPT, YEAH, CAT PLAYS.

SO WHERE DOES THIS PUT THEM IN THE PROCESS? IT'S IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 220, JUST TO THE EAST OF THE EQUIPMENT RENTAL PLACE RIGHT THERE, WHERE THE BRIDGE GOES OVER THE RAILROAD.

OK. WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THE PROCESS, THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT APPLICATION.

THE SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BACK IN AUGUST, AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY YOU ALL.

THERE'S. IT MEETS ALL THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS, P&Z RECOMMENDS APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF?

[04:00:13]

LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL. LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

OK. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE FINAL REPLAT OF THE CENTURY COLE ROAD BUSINESS PARK.

SECOND. A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES ROLLING.

ITEM NUMBER 19 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE KIBER RESERVE SUBDIVISION PHASE TWO

[19. Discussion and possible action on the Kiber Reserve Subdivision Phase II final replat.]

MS. LINDSEY. OK, I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS ONE QUICK BECAUSE KEN LOOKS SLEEPY OVER THERE. OK? BUT THIS IS FOR PHASE TWO.

FINAL REPLAT KIBER RESERVE PROPOSAL TO HAVE FORTY FIVE LOTS AND WAS HEARD BY P&Z'S COMMISSION EARLIER THIS MONTH WITH FOUR IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED AND ZERO ABSTAINED.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL REMIND EVERYBODY THIS DEVELOPMENT MEETS ALL OF THE CITY'S STANDARDS. THEY DO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND THIS WOULD COMPLETE THE PHASES OF OF KIBER RESERVE.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

OK. AND WHAT AGREEMENTS DOES THIS ONE KIND OF ATTACH TO THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED, WOULD YOU SAY, WAS AGAIN? SO WE HAVE AN APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN EXECUTED. OK. AS WELL AS A PID, I BELIEVE, GOT YOU.

AND THERE IS HOUSES ON THE GROUND OVER THERE IN PHASE ONE, YES, SIR.

OK. ALL RIGHT, CARL, THREE QUESTIONS COMMENTS FOR MS. LINDSEY OR STAFF.

MAYOR I MOVE TO APPROVE THE KIBER RESERVE PAYS TO FINAL REPLAT.

SECOND. MOTION BY, I WANT TO CALL YOU MAYOR PRO TEM FOR SOME REASON.

NO. COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

SECOND. BY I'M FIRED AND I'M SEEING I'M SEEING MIKE IN MY HEAD, BUT COUNCILMAN GONGORA A SECOND. INSIDE JOKE AT THE TABLE GUYS.

HAVE MUCH A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN.

THAT IS THREE YAY, TWO NAY, MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. I'M SCARE THAT MIKE IS IN YOUR HEAD.

THAT IS SCARY, QUITE SCARY.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG, ITEM NUMBER 20 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A WAIVER

[20. Discussion and possible action on a waiver of the Code of Ordinances Section 28-24.(g).(6) prohibiting submission of a rezoning application on property for which a denial of a rezoning request had occurred within the previous twelve (12) months.]

MR. WALTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR WAIVER TO BE ALLOWED TO SUBMIT ANOTHER ZONING APPLICATION ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED ON WEST MULBERRY.

IT'S RIGHT THERE OVER BY JUST TO THE JUST TO THE WEST OF THE SCHOOL.

AS YOU RECALL, THERE WAS A REZONING REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF AND THIS AND YOU ALL DENIED BACK IN I WANT TO SAY DECEMBER.

THE RESULT OF THAT WAS THAT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, IT PROHIBITS THE SUBMISSION OF ANOTHER ZONING APPLICATION ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR 12 MONTHS UNLESS A WAIVER IS GRANTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE BASIS OF NEW CHANGE CIRCUMSTANCES OR NEW INFORMATION.

AFTER THE DENIAL, THE APPLICANT WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE COUNCIL MINUTES AND NOTED ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING DETAILS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

WE MET WITH THEM TO DISCUSS HOW TO PROCEED WITH ATTEMPTING TO GET THIS WAIVER, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE NOW.

THE CODE GIVES THE THE CITY THE AUTHORITY TO ROUTE THE WAIVER REQUESTS THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE WAIVER.

IN THE BACKUP, YOU HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO HELP ADDRESS ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD, AND THEY HAVE OFFERED TO DO AN AMENITY OF SOME SORT THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

THEY ARE HERE.

IF THEY CARE TO GET UP AND SPEAK TO THIS, THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK.

P AND Z RECOMMEND A RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY OF THE REQUEST TO GRANT A WAIVER.

[04:05:03]

STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THE MIC IS YOURS.

FABRICIO ESQUIVEL WITH E STUDIO ARCHITECTURE.

[INAUDIBLE] THE LANDOWNER IS HERE AS WELL, SO I DO WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR OUR LACK OF ATTENDANCE AND THE LAST FINDING MEANING.

SO SINCE THEN, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AS WELL AND LINDSAY VERY CLOSELY ALSO WITH MEGAN AT THE RECS AND PARKS.

SO AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE FIRST FIVE ACRES OR SO ARE GOING TO BE DEDICATED COMMERCIAL. SO WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING A RETAIL CENTER THAT'S HOPEFULLY DEDICATED TO THINGS THAT WILL HELP THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LIKE A PEDIATRICIAN OR DENTISTRY.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE OUR GOALS.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY A PAD SITE FOR FAST FOOD OF IRAN HAS CONNECTIONS TO CHICK FIL A.

SO HE WILL TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM TO SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET YOU GUYS ON HERE.

I THINK EVERYBODY LOVES HER CHICK CHICK FIL A.

UM, SO WITH TALKING TO MEGAN AT PARKS AND REC, WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THE SKATE PARK.

IT IS ABOUT THREE QUARTER ACRES.

WE WILL HIRE A PROFESSIONAL SKATE PARK DESIGNER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE.

AS SOON AS ALL THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED, WE WILL DONATE THAT TO THE CITY AS WELL.

ON TOP OF THAT. TALKING TO MEGAN, WE DO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO PAY THE $100000 FEE FOR BECAUSE THE PARKS ARE TOO CLOSE TO US.

SO ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE PAYING THE $100000 FEE AS WELL.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SKATE PARK, IT IS A POND WITH, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE WALK AROUND TRACK JUST PLAYS FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, RELAX, ENJOY THEMSELVES, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO THE SKATE PARK.

BEHIND THAT, IT'S ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED FEET FROM MULBERRY ROAD.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 12 BUILDINGS.

IT'S GOING TO BE ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM.

SO THEY'RE GOOD SIZED UNITS THERE.

SEVEN HUNDRED AND FORTY SQUARE FEET, ONE BEDROOMS. THEY'LL VARY IN SIZE HERE OR THERE.

TWO BEDROOMS, ABOUT NINE HUNDRED SOMETHING AND THEN THREE BEDROOMS REACHING ELEVEN HUNDRED AND TWELVE HUNDRED AND THEN IN THE BACK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING.

SORRY, THE MULTIFAMILY IS ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT UNITS TOTAL FOR THE APARTMENTS. THE APARTMENTS THEMSELVES WILL HAVE THEIR OWN CLUBHOUSE, WHICH WILL HOUSE THE LEASING OFFICE GYM.

PROBABLY SOME TYPE OF DOG WASH.

THE FACILITIES WILL HAVE A DOG PARK.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT'S CONNECTED TO POOL, WHICH WILL HAVE CABANAS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THE LAST RENDERING SHOWS PART OF THE POOL AREA.

THE BACK AREA OF THE TOWNHOMES ARE SEPARATE FROM THE THE APARTMENTS.

THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN CLUBHOUSE, NO POOL.

THEY'LL SHARE THE POOL WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE POOL ITSELF.

WELL, ALL THE AMENITIES IN THE APARTMENTS AND THE TOWNHOMES WILL NOT BE PUBLIC.

THEY'LL BE PRIVATE TO THE AMENITIES OF OF THAT COMPLEX.

UM, ALSO, WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH TXDOT WITH THE WITH OUR MAIN ENTRY AND SECONDARY ENTRY. SO WE HAVE THESE ARE THE TXDOT ACTUAL SUGGESTIONS THAT WE HAVE ONE MAIN ENTRY FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THEN WE HAVE A DEDICATED ENTRY TO THE TOWNHOMES.

SO WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A CONCERN OF TRAFFIC.

WE WILL BE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.

AND IF IT SHOWS WE NEED TO PUT A DECEL LANE OFF MULBERRY TO GET INTO THE COMPLEX, WE WILL CERTAINLY BE DOING THAT.

AND THEN IN OTHER COMMUNICATIONS WITH LINDSAY AND VAULT, WE'RE WILLING TO CONNECT OUR SECONDARY ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL DRIVE LANE TO HELP WITH QUEUING.

WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A QUEUING ISSUE THERE AND I THINK WE CAN.

WE CAN ALLOW FOR X AMOUNT OF CARS TO BE STACKED.

YOU KNOW, THE ONCE OR TWICE A DAY THAT THAT THERE IS SOME TRAFFIC THERE.

OUR DETENTION IS ALL IN THE BACK AREA.

IT IS A FIFTY FIFTY FIVE ACRE LOT.

THIS IS A TYPE CLASS A COMPLEX.

IT'S ALL PRIVATE INVESTMENTS.

THERE IS NO FEDERAL MONEY HERE.

LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE DID I HAVE.

IT'S GOING TO BE ENERGY EFFICIENT, OF COURSE.

OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO MEET ALL STATE, LOCAL CODES.

LET'S SEE. I THINK THAT SUMS UP THE PROJECT AND.

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GUZMAN. I YOU DID, DIDN'T YOU SCROLL DOWN? WE SAW THE RENDERINGS, YEAH, YEAH, SO.

SO THIS IS SO OBVIOUS, DONE THIS BEFORE.

OF COURSE, HE'S DONE SIX GROUND UP.

WE'RE CURRENTLY DESIGNING ABOUT THREE OTHERS FOR HIM AS WELL.

SO THESE RENDERINGS ARE WHAT THE BUILDINGS WILL LOOK LIKE.

SO THIS IS THE DESIGN OF THE COMPLEX, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY, OF COURSE, TO IF WE NEED TO ADJUST ELEVATIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE LOOKING INTO THAT WITH THEM.

AND I THINK I'VE MENTIONED IT, BUT THE SKATEPARK WILL BE DONATED BACK TO THE CITY ONCE IT'S COMPLETED.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MEGAN TOLD US IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY ON HER SIDE.

YES, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A SURVEY TO THE COMMUNITY, SKATE PARK USUALLY POPS UP SOMEWHERE ON THE LIST, AND SO IT'S VERY LARGE, IT'S A GOOD SIZED SKATE PARK.

SO LIKE I SAID, THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE PLUS OR MINUS.

OK, JASON.

YES, SIR, GO AHEAD. SO JUST TO COMMENT, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF MONTHS AGO, I GUESS TECHNICALLY IT WAS LAST YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT GATEWAY MONUMENTATION AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THIS WAS AN EXACT LOCATION, BUT I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OFF OF 288.

SO AS A THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, TO ASK THE DEVELOPER TO GIVE SOME LAND AND OR PUT A GATEWAY MONUMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR GATEWAY.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, TWO EIGHTY EIGHT AND THIRTY FIVE, IT'S A HIGHLY VISIBLE PLACE.

YEAH, AND GETTING NO HIGHER VISIBLE UNLESS THAT OTHER LOT RIGHT THERE BESIDE IT.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, THANKS, CHRIS.

GENTLEMEN, THEY'RE HERE, IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK.

WHY ANGLETON? THAT'S.

WELL, I BELIEVE [INAUDIBLE] I MEAN, I CAN SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT IT'S GROWING.

I MEAN AND I REALLY I'M NOT THE DEVELOPER, SO WE DO KNOW ANGLETON IS GROWING BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION WE'VE SAT THROUGH THE ENTIRE DAY TODAY.

SO WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR NEW PRODUCT HERE. ALL RIGHT, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I APOLOGIZE IF I'M LAYING BACK, SO JUST JUST TRYING TO RELIEVE MY BELLY AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ACTUAL MOTION WE'RE INTERESTED IN HERE IS GRANTING THE WAIVER OF THE VARIANCE FOR THE 12 MONTHS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE SEE ON THE SCREEN.

WE'RE ONLY JUST DEALING WITH WHETHER WE ALLOW THEM TO COME BACK IN LESS THAN 12 MONTHS.

SO, YES, THAT'S PARTIALLY CORRECT.

THE OTHER ASPECT IS THAT THERE WAS A MATERIAL CHANGE THAT WE WERE NOT AWARE OF WHEN THIS MATERIAL CHANGE THE SKATE PARK, IN ADDITION TO THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES IN LIEU.

OK. AND THIS IS THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE THAT.

NO, NO, THIS IS THIS IS SIMPLY THE WAY I ARTICULATED IT TO P&Z.

THIS IS KIND OF LIKE STEP NEGATIVE ONE.

THIS IS THE STEP THAT YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, TRIGGER ZONING AND ALL THAT.

SO MY, HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND PLANNING AND ZONING, I REMEMBER THIS.

CORRECT ME IF I'M MISSTATING THE FACTS HERE, BUT TO KEEP DEVELOPERS FROM COMING BACK MONTH TO MONTH AFTER WE REJECTED THEM AND REJECT AND REJECT THEM, THEY PUT IN PLACE A STANDARD THAT SAYS ONCE YOU'VE BEEN TURNED AWAY, YOU HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR.

AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE.

AND I THINK IT WAS JUST TWO MONTHS AGO WE WENT OVER THIS ISSUE IN NOVEMBER TWO OR THREE.

YEAH. UM.

AND SO THE REAL QUESTION IS, ARE WE JUST GOING TO GIVE THEM A VARIANCE SO THEY CAN, I GUESS, START THE PROCESS WITHIN THE SAME CALENDAR YEAR HERE, NOT CALENDAR YEAR, BUT WITHIN THE SAME THREE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE DAYS FROM THE LAST TIME THEY APPEARED.

WELL, I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE WAS THAT WE WERE TALKING TO A GHOST.

NOBODY THERE TO TALK TO.

WELL, THAT'S PART OF IT.

SURE. NOT WITH NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT JUST WASN'T WORTH IT TO.

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I DON'T THINK ANY THE VARIANCE OF A DOG PARK OR WHATEVER WE SAY SKATEPARK IS SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO WAIVE WHY WE WOULD GO BACK ON OUR VARIANCES.

I KNOW. WELL, YOU SAY, WELL, TRAVIS, WE JUST GRANTED A VARIANCE TO OVER THERE TO.

IS IT HERITAGE PART HERITAGE PARK, AS YOU CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED, WAS DEVELOPED SECTIONS ONE AND TWO BEFORE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE HAD EVEN BEEN DEVELOPED.

SO WE WERE WE WERE KIND OF IN A SITUATION WHERE THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS PROCEEDING BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT PHASES WHERE THERE WASN'T LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND AFTER THERE WAS A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

THIS IS. THIS IS US STANDING UP FOR OUR STANDARDS, I MEAN, TO ME, IF WE'RE GOING TO GRANT A VARIANCE HERE, WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST.

THROWAWAY HALF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST I THINK AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO STAND ON PRINCIPLE AND THIS IS ONE I'M WILLING TO STAND ON.

THANK YOU, TRAVIS. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUICK ONE, MAYOR.

GO AHEAD, MAN. SO IF NOT, THEN IT'LL BE ANOTHER DEVELOPER.

AND THEY MIGHT NOT COME WITH SOMETHING THAT'S AS HIGH QUALITY AS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

I HONESTLY FEEL THEY'RE PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT IS QUALITY THAT WILL LOOK NICE AS YOU COME INTO A MAJOR CORRIDOR OF ANGLETON.

THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO CONVEY THAT PARK.

IT ACTUALLY IS A SKATE PARK.

THERE'S APPARENTLY A DIFFERENCE BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THIS WOULD BE COMPETITIVE WITH SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT LAKE JACKSON IS DOING.

I JUST SAW SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK OVER THE WEEKEND THAT THEY WERE DOING A SKATE PARK TOO, SO IT'D BE AWESOME TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER CITIES.

THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS, THOUGH.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, I FEEL I FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. YEAH, I WANT TO ECHO A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SAID.

BUT I DO THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT.

I REALLY LIKE THE DRAWINGS.

I STILL HAVE CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC ON THAT AREA, AND I'M BEING CONSISTENT BECAUSE I JUST SAID THE SAME THING TO THE MULBERRY FIELDS PEOPLE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT BACK UP ON THIRTY FIVE RIGHT THERE ACROSS FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS A MAJOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR THIS AREA.

SO IT COLLECTS MORE THAN ITS SHARE.

IT'S ALREADY BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. IT WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SO IT HOUSES A LOT OF KIDS.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT THERE AT THAT TURN OFF ON A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION OF THIRTY FIVE AND 288. IT'S GOOD FOR YOU.

I MEAN, IT'S PRIME LOCATION, RIGHT? I WOULDN'T DOUBT ANYBODY NOT WANTING THAT LOCATION, BUT DO YOU HAVE TRAFFIC CONCERNS? I DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, IF IF YOU HAD GIVEN US PLANS BEFORE THAT HAD THE, YOU KNOW, HAD SOMETHING AND WE MISINTERPRETED IT.

I FEEL LIKE THE INTENTION OF THE VARIANCE AND THE WAIVER OR THE VARIANCE WAS IN WHERE WE MS. SOMETHING AND IT CAME BACK.

WELL, THE PROBLEM IS, AS COUNCILMAN BOOTH ALSO SAID, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THE FIRST TIME AND NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING.

HOW HOW DO I KNOW THAT YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, TALK TO MEGAN AND SAID, HEY, WE NEED A SKATE PARK AND THROW IT INTO YOUR PLANS? WAS IT? HOW DO I KNOW IT WASN'T THERE IN THE BEGINNING? WELL, HONESTLY, THESE DRAWINGS, IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE WEREN'T HERE ON OUR END THE FIRST TIME.

SO I MEAN, I CAN I CAN ONLY APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WELL TO MAKE UP, TO MAKE UP FOR IT, BUT TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

I MEAN, WE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A NEED THE CONNECTION TO THE SCHOOL.

IT'S A REALLY BIG PLUS FOR THE FAMILIES, TOO.

SO I MEAN, IT IS A GOOD PRODUCT.

I THINK AGAIN, WE DO UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE WILLING TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND AND ABIDE BY WHAT IT SAYS.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR ROAD, THOUGH.

IF I KNOW TONIGHT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WAIVER.

BUT YOU GAVE US RENDERINGS AND DRAWINGS.

MY GO RIGHT THERE.

YOU'RE CREATING A ROAD NEXT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S LITTLE ROAD THAT FOR THEIR TURNAROUND AND PRIOR REGIMES, WE REQUIRED THEM TO WHOEVER WAS GOING TO BUY THAT PROPERTY TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RIGHT THERE TO EXPAND THAT ROAD, NOT TO CREATE A SIDE BY SIDE NEXT TO IT.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD SAID IN THE PAST, AND I MUST STILL STAND ON THAT BECAUSE WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE.

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THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY, THAT THE ROAD IS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN AND AND STILL WORK WITH THE SCHOOL TO TURN AROUND MORE BECAUSE TRAFFIC DOES STACK UP ON THIRTY FIVE AT SCHOOL RUSH TIMES. STILL, TO THIS DAY, THEY THEY GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT IN OFF ON THE ROAD.

SO, SO MY ARGUMENT IS JUST PURELY PROCEDURAL.

PROCEDURE IS WE'RE GOING AND START OUR WRITTEN STANDARDS.

WHETHER STAFF LIKES THAT OR NOT, MY PROCEDURE.

THAT'S WHAT MY ARGUMENT FOR PROCEDURE.

I CAN AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THAT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PRODUCT.

THEY'RE PUTTING OUT THEIR. OK.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME OTHERS REAL SERIOUS CONCERNS, AND TRAFFIC IS A HUGE ONE.

WE'RE JUST BLUSHING RIGHT PAST THAT.

THIS IS A REAL DEBATE THAT NEEDS TO GO ON BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MAJOR INTERSECTION OF ANGLETON THIRTY FIVE AND TWO EIGHTY EIGHT AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH HOW MANY UNITS AND TOWNHOMES.

YOU PROBABLY AVERAGING ONE POINT FIVE TO ONE POINT SEVENTY FIVE PER VEHICLES PER UNIT.

AND THEN WE WANT TO PUT A PUBLIC SKATE PARK THERE THAT MAKES ZERO SENSE, THE LOCATION OF A PUBLIC SKATE PARK. I KNOW THEY'RE WILLING TO DONATE THE LAND, BUT THAT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER OFF TO COMMITTING THEM TO SOME OTHER SKATE PARK IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

THAT'S A TERRIBLE LOCATION FOR A SKATE PARK.

IT HAS NO ACCESS, HAS NO ACCESS.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE CROSS THIRTY FIVE ON THEIR SKATEBOARDS TO GO SKATE FROM OVER FROM WESTERN AVENUE OR FROM? HERITAGE OAKS, THAT'S JUST FLAT OUT DANGEROUS AND THE RESULTING WE'LL BE DEALING WITH HOMOCIDES, I MEAN NOT HOMICIDES, BUT BUT WE'LL BE DEALING WITH A POSSIBLE MANSLAUGHTER CHARGES. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT AND IT'S IN THE WRONG LOCATION.

AND I STILL GO BACK TO PROCEDURALLY, THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW IT THE PROCEDURE, SO EITHER WE BELIEVE IN PROCEDURE OR WE DON'T.

[INAUDIBLE] THE NOT TO REBUTTAL, BUT IF WE IF WE THEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TRAFFIC THAT WE MIGHT AS WELL PUT A CLOSED SIGN ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE WHATEVER GOES IN THERE IS GOING TO CREATE TRAFFIC, WHETHER IT'S A SUBDIVISION, WHETHER IT'S EVEN A HIGH INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYER WITH THREE HUNDRED EMPLOYEES EVERY DAY. WE MIGHT AS WELL PUT A CLOSED SIGN ON THAT PIECE RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THEN IT'LL NEVER DEVELOP, ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I GET IT, IT'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC REGARDLESS.

WE'RE CATCHING UP ON DESIGN BASED ON WHERE WE'RE AT.

BUT AND I GET IT, TRAVIS, PROCEDURALLY.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR POSITION IS.

BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE FALLBACK THAT ALLOWS FOR IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN.

I MEAN, TONIGHT WE'VE ALREADY GRANTED TWO VARIANCES TONIGHT.

WELL, THERE WAS THE THREE TWO.

BUT ANYWAY, THERE WAS THERE WAS A VARIANCE.

IT WAS TWO VARIANCES GIVEN TONIGHT ON THAT ANYWAY.

NOTHING SAID. BUT ANYWAY, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A PROCEDURE.

I KNOW I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE THEN, YES, WHAT'S THAT OPEN THE DOOR FOR THE REST OF THEM. BUT WE UNDERSTAND THIS MAN IS COMING UP HERE.

HE'S APOLOGIZED.

HE DIDN'T REALIZE THE PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, HE WASN'T HERE, AND HE'S COME BACK AND TOLD US FOR THE NEXT ONE WHO COMES, WE MAY NOT SEE THE SAME THAT I'M SEEING IN THIS GENTLEMAN RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M THE OPTIMISTIC.

BUT LIKE I'M JUST SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING FOUR, FOUR, FOUR HINTS, EVER MORE.

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING EVER DEVELOP, WHETHER BEHIND THE SCHOOL IN FRONT OF THEIR OR EVEN THE NEXT TRACK.

WE PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO LAND LOCK THESE PEOPLE.

THEY'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY.

THAT MAYBE IS THEIR RETIREMENT PIECE.

MAYBE IT WAS. THEY'RE GIVEN TO THEM, GIFTED THEM AN INHERITANCE.

THE ONE RIGHT THERE, NEXT TO THE HIGHWAY AND THE ONE NEXT TO THE HIGHWAY WE HAD ALREADY HAS IT. WHO'S THAT? THEY ALREADY BUILT THE ENTRANCE THERE.

YEAH, I MEAN, BUT SAME THING.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ENTRANCE WITH MAYBE 100 MORE CARS.

TWO HUNDRED? I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST JUST THINKING.

BUT YOU KNOW, MY FORE THOUGHT WAS IS, WE'RE JUST STARTING THAT PROCESS AGAIN.

IS IT GOING TO BE MORE FOR STAFF? COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE. OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF THINGS ARE IN PLACE.

IT'S MORE OF JUST PROCEDURAL STARTING ALL OVER, PUTTING THE CART AND THE HORSE BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. BUT I'M JUST ONE PERSON, JUST ONE VOTE.

SO HOW ARE YOU GUYS WANT TO GO THROUGH THE MOTION THIS EVENING? JUST THAT'S MY TWO CENTS.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, SIR, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING. COME ON. JUST MAKE SURE YOU STATE YOUR NAME.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBER AND MY MAYOR.

MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] RON.

AND I'VE BEEN IN HOUSTON FOR 45 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN DEVELOPING A LOT OF PROPERTIES COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AND DRIVING DOWN THE 288 CORRIDOR.

[04:25:03]

IT'S SPRUCING ALL OVER THE ROAD CLOSE TO ANGLETON.

A LOT OF THESE TOWNS ALONG THE WAY ARE GETTING ALL THE TAX REVENUE.

ANGLETON FROM RESEARCH WE'VE DONE IS A SAFE, GOOD PLACE TO LIVE.

PEOPLE WOULDN'T MOVE HERE AND THERE'S PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE THAT NEED GOOD, HIGH END APARTMENTS.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BUILD A SLUM OR GHETTO.

WE ARE NEXT TO SCHOOL IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

MY PARENTS DON'T HAVE TO RUSH FROM WORK.

KIDS CAN WALK FROM SCHOOL TO THE APARTMENT.

THEY COULD BE STUDENTS OR THE PARENTS ARE LATE TO PICK THEM UP OR EARLY TO GET TO SCHOOL.

THEY COULD USE A SKATEPARK.

I INTEND IS NEVER WAS AND WOULD NOT BE TO KILL ANYBODY OR IMAGINE PEOPLE CROSSING THE ROAD AND WITH A SKATEBOARD TO GET KILLED THAT IT WAS NEVER OUR INTENT.

WE'RE THINKING WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND HELP CREATE AMENITY FOR THE CITY.

AND AS YOU SAY, MAYOR, IF WE DON'T DEVELOP IT, SOMEBODY WILL COME MAYBE BUILD AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL PARK ON THE MAIN ENTRY TO THE CITY RATHER THAN A NICE APARTMENT COMPLEX? WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY IF A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR MONEY.

WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND GIVE YOU A NICE TAX BASIS THAT OTHERWISE WOULD GO TO A DIFFERENT TOWN, EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH OF YOU.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THAT.

YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND A GOOD PARTNER TO THE CITY.

AND IF IT WORKS OUT, WE MAKE COULD DO MORE.

WE REALLY BELIEVE IN WHAT THE ANGLETON IS AND WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER.

DO YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER FOR THE CITY? THANK YOU, MR. HARVEY. APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

YES, SIR. YOU'RE PART OF THIS GROUP AS WELL.

YES. OH, COME ON UP.

MY APOLOGIES, I WAS TRYING TO CATCH SOMEBODY'S ATTENTION, MY NAME IS JOSE GUERRERO WITH E! STUDIO ARCHITECTURE AS WELL.

AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT, IF I CAN, KIND OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONNECTION WITH THE PARKS AND THE SKATE PARK AND THE LOCATION NOW.

BUT WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY TALKS WITH PARKS AND REC AND I BELIEVE MEGAN MANOR IS A DIRECTOR. THEY HAVE A PROPOSED IDEA OR PLAN OF CONNECTING THE TWO PARKS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL WITH THE NATURAL TRAIL THAT WILL WRAP AROUND THE BACKSIDE OF THE SCHOOL.

AND THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN THAT BRINGING THAT TRAIL ONTO THIS PROPERTY AND USING IT TO CONNECT TO THE SKATE PARK.

SO THERE'S THAT AVENUE THAT'S ALREADY BEING DISCUSSED ABOUT HOW TO POTENTIALLY CONNECT THOSE COMPONENTS TOGETHER SAFELY.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.

OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I'LL JUST SAY THIS, I DO APPRECIATE THE RETAIL SPACE, THE PARK, IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PRODUCT.

RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS GRANTING THE WAIVER OR NOT, UM.

QUESTION TO LINDSAY, IF WE WE DO GRANT THIS AND THEY COME BACK AND WE DON'T.

YOU KNOW, WE STRIKE IT DOWN AGAIN.

DOE THAT WAIVER STILL STAND, OR IS IT NULL AND VOID? YOU KNOW, IT HAD TO ASK FOR ANOTHER WAIVER? WELL, THEN IT'S A CYCLE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS THIS IS ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL VARIANCE OR WAIVER REQUEST.

THE REASON FOR IT IS BECAUSE OF A MATERIAL CHANGE.

IF IF THEIR ZONING REQUEST WAS DENIED, THEY'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER BIG MATERIAL CHANGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COULD BE.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS WOULD BE A FINAL REQUEST AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

I'M GOING TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT SPECIFICALLY UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

IT ALLOWS FOR AN APPLICANT TO ASK FOR A WAIVER.

IT'S NOT A VARIANCE, IT'S A WAIVER, BUT IT SAYS THAT THERE'S CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES OR THERE'S NEW INFORMATION, BUT THE CODE DOESN'T DESCRIBE WHAT THOSE ARE.

SO WITH THEIR PROPOSAL HERE, THE WAIVER THAT THEY WANT IS BECAUSE THE CHANGED

[04:30:03]

SO YOU WILL SEE ALL THE PLANS.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OR NOT.

IF THE ISSUE IS, WELL, WE DON'T LIKE THIS ROAD OVER HERE, THEY CAN GO BACK AND DISCUSS WITH THE SCHOOL ABOUT FINDING A WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK AS PART OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. IF THE IF THE SKATEPARK LOCATION IS NOT TO YOUR LIKING AS PART OF THE NEGOTIATION, AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WHERE WOULD YOU WANT THE SKATE PARK? WOULD YOU WANT IT OVER IN THE PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL? I'M SURE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO BUILDING IT OVER THERE, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT IT TO GO.

SO WHAT THIS IS TO ALLOW THEM THE ABILITY TO START THE PROCESS AGAIN.

THAT'S ALL THIS IS ABOUT THE CHANGE.

CIRCUMSTANCES ARE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IT AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD AN AMENITY AND DISCUSS THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AS PART OF THE PROCESS OF DOING THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

OF THE WAIVER, ALL IT IS IS A WAIVER.

ALL IT ALLOWS THEM TO DO IS TO MAKE AN APPLICATION.

AFTER THAT, THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE PROCESS.

ONE MORE THING. I'M SORRY, I KNOW IT'S LATE FOR EVERYBODY.

ONE MORE THING IN MY IF I MAY ADD THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX, IT'S A COMPONENT OF TOWNHOMES SO FAMILIES CAN LIVE NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.

IT'S ALL RENTAL. ALL THE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE A WASHER AND DRYER.

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO ON WEEKENDS TO WASH IT AWAY FROM THEIR OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT. THEY COULD SPEND TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES OR THE KIDS.

SO THIS IT BRINGS A LOT OF VALUE AS WELL, NOT JUST ANOTHER REGULAR APARTMENT COMPLEX.

WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? COUNSEL, YOU HAVE A PLEASURE TONIGHT.

IS THERE GOING TO BE A MOTION TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWENTY ONE, REPUBLICAN HEARING

[21. Reconvene a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on levying the assessments for property within the Greystone Public Improvement District (PID) in accordance with Texas Local Government Code Section 372.]

YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

I BELIEVE IT WAS AT THE NOVEMBER THE 9TH COUNCIL MEETING, BUT THAT PUBLIC HEARING WAS LEFT OPEN.

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S REQUIRED UNDER CHAPTER THREE SEVENTY TWO.

SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS TO RECONVENE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THERE IS ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENT AND THEN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MAYOR I MOVE TO RECONVENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED TO SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING TO ON THIS GREYSTONE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

ANYBODY WANTS TO BE GONE FOR OR AGAINST.

OK, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 22, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE.

[22. Discussion and possible action on an ordinance adopting the service and assessment plan and proposed assessment roll for the City of Angleton Greystone Public Improvement District (PID).]

WALTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO ORDINANCES.

IT IS ABOUT ADOPTING THESE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND THE ASSESSMENT ROLE.

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P3 WORKS AS VETTED NUMBERS.

THEY'RE SATISFIED THAT IT WORKS AND THAT THIS SAP IS GOOD TO GO, SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE.

OK, THANK YOU WALTER FOR THAT DESCRIPTION.

ITEM NUMBER 22, WE DO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM ON THE TABLE.

I'M TRYING TO GET TO IT ON MY COMPUTER.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVED THE ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND PROPOSED ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON GREYSTONE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

AYE. THAT IS A THREE-TWO VOTE, MOTION DOES CARRY.

ITEM NUMBER. I WAS TOLD THAT WE NEED TO DO TWENTY FOUR BEFORE TWENTY THREE.

ITEM NUMBER 24, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE.

[24. Discussion and possible action on an ordinance levying assessments against properties within the City of Angleton Greystone Public Improvement District (PID); and making certain findings related thereto.]

THANK YOU MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS THE SECOND ORDINANCE THAT LEVIES THE ASSESSMENT ON THE ON THE PROPERTIES IN THE PID. AGAIN, THIS IS BEEN FULLY VETTED AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, WALTER. SO THIS IS OF A NUMBER OF TWENTY FOUR.

SO THE QUESTION IS COMMENTS, WE DO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM THAT NEEDS TO COME FROM THIS, IT'S THE ORDINANCE LEVYING THE ASSESSMENT.

WE APPROVED THE ORDINANCE LEVYING ASSESSMENTS IN THE GRAYSTONE PID, AS DETAILED IN THE SAP. HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, DO I HAVE A SECOND.

I WILL SECOND.

A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE.

NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

IT IS A THREE-TWO, TWO NAYS, THREE YESES.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER TWENTY THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND

[23. Discussion and possible action on a resolution approving and authorizing the PID Reimbursement Agreement for the Greystone Public Improvement District (PID) in the CIty of Angleton, Texas; and making other provisions related to the subject.]

MR. WALTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THIS IS THE FINAL STEP, WHICH IS APPROVEMENT OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.

THE VERSION OF IT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR BACKUP WAS WHAT WAS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF PREPARATION OF THE PACKET.

SINCE THEN, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEY HAVE BOTH REVIEWED THE THE DOCUMENT. THERE WERE SOME MINOR WORDING CHANGES, BUT IT IS GENERALLY THE SAME AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU WALTER FOR THAT BRIEF.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM ON ITEM NUMBER TWENTY THREE.

RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE PID.

AND ALSO, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MAYOR I MOVE WE APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE PID REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE GRAYSTONE PID.

HAVE A MOTION BOARD COUNCILMAN BOOTH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? YOU GOOD, JUDITH? YES. I HAVE REVIEWED IT AND WORKED ON IT WITH MR. [INAUDIBLE] ATTORNEY. THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH, INCLUDING REIMBURSEMENT ON THE CONSULTANT FEES FOR FORTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THE INDEMNIFICATION LANGUAGE THAT THE DEVELOPERS INDEMNIFYING THE CITY AND ALSO THERE IS A REIMBURSEMENT OF 10 PERCENT OF THE PID VALUE THAT WOULD BE PAID BACK TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU, MISS JUDITH. OVER THE LIFE OF THE..

PID WITH A PID FUND FOR AS LONG AS THERE'S A FINE, AS LONG AS THERE'S PAYMENT, 10 PERCENT OF THAT GOES TO THE CITY.

I WILL SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BIKE COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

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AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN, AYE.

THAT IS THREE YAYS, TWO NAYS MOTION CARRIES.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE PART OF THE AGENDA, THE ADJOURNMENT.

OH YES, SIR. SURE.

GO AHEAD. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED.

I MEAN, I KNOW THERE WASN'T WASN'T A DENIAL AND ACCEPTANCE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE WE HAVE NEXT STEPS.

SO JUDITH, YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN TO THEM IF THERE'S NO MOTION, SO THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN. YOU WERE REQUESTING A WAIVER AND THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN.

SO IN ESSENCE, YOU DID NOT GET IT.

TONIGHT, OKAY.

YOU DIDN'T GET IT TONIGHT.

SO WE CAN COME BACK AGAIN.

WELL, YOU COULD TALK TO WALTER ABOUT THAT, BUT THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT WERE IN EXISTENCE THAT ALLOW YOU TO COME TONIGHT, THOSE THOSE CONDITIONS STILL EXIST.

SO IT WASN'T ACCEPTED, BUT IT WASN'T DENIED, EITHER.

YEAH, RIGHT. THERE'S JUST NO ACTION TAKEN.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

JUST REACH OUT TO CITY STAFF.

ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO THE ADJOURNMENT PORTION OF OUR MEETING.

WE WILL ADJOURN AT TEN FIFTY SIX.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.