EXCUSE ME 5:33, AND WE'LL GET THIS ABLC MEETING STARTED.
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
[1. Discussion and possible action on the ABLC minutes from the December 13, 2021.]
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ITEM NUMBER ONE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ABLC MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 13TH 2021. ENTERTAIN A MOTION ANYBODY.OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES.
ALRIGHT DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE.
OPPOSED SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
ITEM NUMBER TWO DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ABLC AND RECREATION CENTER
[2. Discussion and possible action on the ABLC and Recreation Center Preliminary YTD Financial Statements December 2021]
PRELIMINARY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS DECEMBER 2021.ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE FIRST QUARTER FINANCIALS FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR 21-22.
AND I GUESS BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANT TO INTRODUCE MY ASSISTANT ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR IS HERE, TENECHA WILLIAMS. SHE'S JUST GOING TO BE OBSERVING TODAY.
BUT SHE MAY COME TO A LATER MEETING IN MY PLACE, BUT I WANT TO INTRODUCE HER.
AND THE FIRST NAME IS TENECHA OR DENISHA? TENECHA WITH A "T". ALL RIGHT VERY GOOD.
[LAUGHTER] YES. SO IF YOU ASKED ANY DETAIL QUESTIONS, THAT'S WHY [INAUDIBLE].
ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE SUMMARY, THEN I'LL ASK YOU.
I'LL LET YOU ASK QUESTIONS AS USUAL.
OF COURSE, SALES TAX IS TOO MUCH BEHIND.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON THE ABLC LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN A DEFICIT, BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED THOSE TWO PAYMENTS FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
NOW IN THE NOVEMBER PAYMENT WAS A HUNDRED THIRTY SIX THOUSAND AND THE DECEMBER PAYMENT WAS A HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE HIGHEST MONTH ON RECORD, EXCEPT FOR THE AUDITED THE AUDIT MONTH THAT WE HAD THE EXTRA TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THERE IN AUGUST LAST YEAR.
SO OF COURSE, INFLATION'S UP SEVEN PERCENT.
THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT.
AND BUT ABLC LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A DEFICIT OF TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN THOUSAND ON THE P&L, BUT IT'S REALLY WITH THAT THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND, IT'S A POSITIVE THIRTY SIX THOUSAND. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? I MEAN, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN TWO MONTHS BEHIND, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE GOT IN NOVEMBER AND WHAT WE GOT IN OCTOBER, WE GOT MONEY, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHAT WERE THE PAYMENTS NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT.
RIGHT? BUT WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN WE BEFORE WE DO THE PRELIMINARY AUDIT, WE WE GO AHEAD AND BOOK THOSE EXTRA TWO MONTHS.
WE GO AHEAD AND BOOK AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, EVEN THOUGH IT'S EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT RECEIVED UNTIL AFTER THE FISCAL YEAR.
SO YOU HAD TO HAVE TAKE THE TWO MONTHS OUT THAT RELATED TO I MEAN, YOU DON'T PUT FOURTEEN MONTHS IN THERE, RIGHT? NO, IT'S THIRTEEN MONTHS.
SO LIKE WHAT WE RECEIVED IN JANUARY WAS REALLY FOR THE NOVEMBER PAYMENT SPEAKERS] TWO MONTHS BEHIND. I GOT THAT PART.
SO THE REASON OK, SO WHEN WE WHEN WE FINISHED THE YEAR, SO WHEN WE CLOSED OUT LAST FISCAL YEAR FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH, OK, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO KNOW BY NOVEMBER WHAT THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS ARE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ACCRUE THEM AND BOOK THEM INTO THE INTO THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY FOR THAT TIME PERIOD.
WE JUST DON'T WE JUST HAVEN'T DIDN'T RECEIVE THEM BY BY YEAR END.
SO THEN NOW THE ONLY THE ONLY MONTH THAT GETS THAT'S BEEN RECORDED, YOU KNOW, IS IS OCTOBER, BECAUSE IT RECEIVED IN DECEMBER.
THAT'S IN THIS THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE WE GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY WE'RE DOING A CASH BASIS DURING THE YEAR AND THEN WE ADJUST THAT AT THE YEAR END TO ACCRUE IT TO THE ACCRUAL BASE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE SAT ON THIS, THIS BOARD SINCE INCEPTION, RIGHT? AND I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M THINKING, WHY IN THE WORLD DO WE DO THAT? BUT WE DO IT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE THE MOMENT YOU CAME UP, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PLAN, BUT I'M LIKE, RIGHT, I MEAN, I COULD START ACCRUING. AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE MONEY YET, WE BY THE TIME WE MEET, LIKE NOW, BY FEBRUARY, I KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AT THE END OF DECEMBER.
OF COURSE YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED THEM YET, RIGHT? BUT BY THE TIME WE MEET, WE NOW WE ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PAYMENT THAT HAPPENED IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, WHICH WAS REALLY FOR THE TIME PERIOD OF NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.
SO HAVE WE ALWAYS BEEN DOING THIS? YES, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY.
NO, NO, THAT'S THAT'S BEEN DONE FOREVER.
I MEAN, I COULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT TO ACCRUE IT EVEN THOUGH THE MONEY WASN'T RECEIVED.
IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT AND THEN IT WOULD ONLY BE WHAT I KNOW, I MIGHT NOT ALWAYS HAVE SO WHEN YOU SO WHEN WE'VE GOT PAGE SEVENTEEN, WHICH HAS THE DEFICIT OF
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TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SEVEN THOUSAND RIGHT, OKAY, THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN WE GO BACK TO THE BUDGET, IT HAS ONLY A HUNDRED AND FORTY ONE DOLLARS, ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY ONE THOUSAND.IT ONLY HAS. THE ONE MONTH DECEMBER, BUT IT HAS ALL THREE MONTHS OF EXPENDITURES.
ALL RIGHT. SO SO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOW.
SO IF YOU ADD THE THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND THAT WE RECEIVED, WE'RE REALLY IN A POSITIVE THIRTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS.
GOTCHA. OK, NOW THE OTHER THING IS, I HELP ME OUT, CHRIS, WHEN WE CAME UP WHEN THE BUDGET AMOUNT HAS AN INCREASE OF FOURTEEN PERCENT OVER LAST YEAR.
RIGHT. ORIGINALLY, IT WAS TWELVE PERCENT, BUT BECAUSE THE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR CAME IN FORTY THOUSAND LESS, IT IS POSITIVE NOW.
YES, RIGHT? SO IT'S FOURTEEN PERCENT.
SO SO WHEN I LOOK AND I LOVE THIS FORM THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR THE LONGEST TIME, BUT SO WE'VE BUDGETED A FOURTEEN PERCENT INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS TWELVE MONTHS.
RIGHT WHEN I WHEN I LOOK AT THE COLUMN, THAT'S ON PAGE SIX.
OK. ITEM TWO PAGE SIX, WHERE IT HAS YEAR TO DATE PERCENTAGE INCREASE.
WHERE WE'RE AT AT THE MOMENT FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS IS SEVEN POINT THREE FIVE PERCENT. YES.
CORRECT. OK. SO WE'RE HALF OF WHAT WE EXPECTED TO BE NOW BECAUSE I KIND OF KEPT THINKING, BOY, THAT FOURTEEN.
INITIALLY, IT WAS EIGHTEEN PERCENT ON ONE OF THOSE DRAFTS.
OK. AND I WAS KIND OF LIKE, WHY ARE WE BEING SO AGGRESSIVE? YOU KNOW, JANUARY WAS FIFTEEN PERCENT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE SEPARATED THOSE PROJECTS OUT. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THAT YOU KNOW, THE THE ACTUAL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE BUDGETED IN SALES TAX INCREASE, THAT'S THAT FOURTEEN PERCENT OR WHATEVER NUMBER YOU COME WITH. IT'S ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS.
OK, WE HAVE WE HAVE PROJECTS BUDGETED OF OF TWO SEVENTEEN BECAUSE THOSE, YOU KNOW, AND SO IF THE SALES TAX DOESN'T COME IN, THEN WE WOULD REDUCE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET AND WE ALSO HAVE A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR CONTINGENCY THERE.
AND IF YOU TAKE OUT THE PROJECT, THAT EXTRA MONEY THAT WE PLUGGED INTO PROJECTS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN SALES TAX, IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT, YOU ONLY GOT FIFTY THOUSAND INCREASE IN SALES TAX BUDGET, WHICH IS ABOUT THREE PERCENT, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE'VE DONE THE LAST TWO YEARS. WE'VE DONE SIX PERCENT THE LAST TWO YEARS IF YOU ADJUST FOR THE AUDIT. SO OTHER THAN THE PROJECTS, WE REALLY ONLY HAVE A THREE PERCENT SALES TAX, BUT WE THINK IT'S GOING TO COME IN HIGHER BECAUSE OF TWO REASONS.
BECAUSE OF THE THE LAW CHANGE WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY IF WHEN THE PURCHASE OCCURS NOW STARTING OCTOBER THE 1ST, IF THERE IS NOT A SALESPERSON TAKING THE ORDER.
SO IF IT'S A IF IT'S AN INTERNET PURCHASE OR AN APP PURCHASE, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SALES TAX IS GOING TO BE BASED ON WHERE IT GETS DELIVERED INSTEAD OF THE SHIPPING POINT WHERE IT WAS BEFORE, IT WAS A SHIPPING POINT.
SO LIKE IF YOU HAD AN AMAZON OR WALMART DISTRIBUTION CENTER IN YOUR CITY, YOU GOT THE SALES TAX EVEN THOUGH IT'S GETTING SHIPPED ALL OVER THE STATE.
NOW, IF IT COMES INTO ANGLETON AND IT'S COMING FROM AMAZON OR WALMART, THERE'S NOT.
WE'RE GOING TO GET ANGLETON IS GOING TO GET THAT SALES TAX.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. WE THINK IT'S A BIG NUMBER.
THE OTHER THING IS, OBVIOUSLY INFLATION IS UP SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT.
THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE COST OF THE GOODS UP, WHICH IS GOING TO CREATE MORE SALES TAX UNLESS PEOPLE DECIDE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY IT.
WELL, AND I MEAN JUST BECAUSE INFLATION IS UP DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT EVERYTHING'S GOING TO GO UP A LOT OF FOOD DOESN'T HAVE SALES TAX ON IT, AND THAT'S WHY WE GOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET TOWARD, YOU KNOW, THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR IN THE YEAR AND WE SEE THAT THE SALES TAX IS NOT GOING TO COME IN AS WE BUDGETED, THEN WE NEED TO CUT BACK ON OUR PROJECT, RIGHT. WE ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO TO LOOK AT ANYWAY.
SO BUT IF WE ALL AND I WAS USING THIS TIME BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION BY SOMEBODY ELSE JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO, SO SO IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT PAGE SIX, THE SEVEN POINT THREE FIVE PERCENT IS THE INCREASE OF THIS YEAR'S TOTAL SALES TAX COLLECTED OVER LAST YEAR'S.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
YEAH, FOR THE FIRST, OK? RIGHT? GOT IT.
OK, SO WHAT'S UNDER TWO SEVENTEEN MEGAN? OTHER PROJECTS, JUST SO I KEEP THEM STRAIGHT IS THAT ANY OF THE ONES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT? BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THE WHEN WE DID THE LIST, IT'S THREE EIGHTY FOUR.
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I'M ON, RIGHT? OK, SO LET'S LOOK AT LET'S LOOK AT THE LIST.I'M GLAD WE SHARED THIS BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO MANY PAGES [INAUDIBLE] IS WHAT CHRIS WAS REFERRING TO, RIGHT? THIS BUDGET RIGHT HERE.
IT BREAKS DOWN THAT. SO THAT'S OUR TWO SEVENTEEN.
BUT BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS, MAYBE IN A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT IT'S THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY ALMOST THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND OF OBLIGATED OBLIGATIONS ON OUR PART. SO SEPARATE FOR ME, THE TWO OF Y'ALL.
WHAT'S THE TWO SEVENTEEN AND WHAT'S THE THREE EIGHTY FOUR AND SOME OF THE CROSS OVER? OK. RIGHT.
BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE MONEY THAT'S CARRIED OVER FROM LAST YEAR IN OUR FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS THE SEVEN SEVENTY NINE TWO TWENTY THREE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A BUDGETED ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM THAT INCREASE IN SALES TAX. SHOULD IT OCCUR OF TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTEEN THOUSAND SEVEN FORTY FOR A TOTAL OF NINE NINE SIX NINE SIXTY THREE.
OK SO THE TWO SEVENTEEN SEVEN FORTY.
THAT'S NOT THE OTHER PROJECTS, THAT'S THE THAT'S A SALES TAX [INAUDIBLE].
WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH, THE NUMBER WE PUT IN THE SALES TAX, WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD COME IN IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WAS BUDGETED WAS TWO SEVENTEEN.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE PUT IT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE BUDGET BALANCE.
OK. ALL RIGHT. SO THE TWO SEVENTEEN REALLY WAS A CALCULATED NUMBER YES, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. LIKE WE DID BUDGET AT TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLAR INCREASE IN DOLLARS, WHICH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTEEN OF IT IS THESE PROJECTS. IF IF ALL THE PROJECTS CAME OUT OF FUND BALANCE AND WE DIDN'T AND WE DIDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT MONEY, THEN WE WOULD ONLY HAVE A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR INCREASE IN THE BUDGET, WHICH IS ABOUT THREE PERCENT OVER LAST YEAR.
OK. AND WE ALSO HAVE FIFTY THOUSAND CONTINGENCY IN THERE, SO WE COULD LITERALLY COME IN AT FLAT WITH LAST YEAR AND TAKE OUT THE CONTINGENCY AND TAKE OUT THE PROJECTS, AND WE COULD STILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE BUDGET BALANCE.
WE REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO COME IN AT THAT HIGH PERCENTAGE.
DON'T MISUNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF RIGHT, RIGHT? GOTCHA. SO TWO SEVENTY FOUR BASICALLY IS THE INCREASE TOTAL INCREASE, TOTAL SALES, THE TOTAL SALES TAX DOLLARS OVER LAST YEAR WHERE WE ACTUALLY CAME IN AT.
OKAY. SO BUT WHAT WE'VE GOT AT THE MOMENT, WHICH IS THE OTHER ITEM THAT MEGAN SENT OUT TODAY, RIGHT? PROBABLY Y'ALL WORKED ON IT TOGETHER IS WE'VE GOT THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY.
LET'S CALL IT THREE EIGHTY FIVE.
OK. THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED TO FUNDING, RIGHT, OF WHICH NINETY EIGHT THOUSAND HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT.
SO IT LEAVES US TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SEVEN THOUSAND THAT WE ARE ALREADY OBLIGATED OURSELVES TO PAY.
OK, SO THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT A SITUATION WHERE THE REC CENTER IS BEHIND ON WHERE WE HAD HOPED THEY WOULD BE IN REVENUE.
YES, THEY'RE A LITTLE BEHIND. YES, THERE ARE TWENTY PERCENT INSTEAD OF TWENTY FIVE WHERE WE SHOULD BE AT, YOU KNOW, AT ONE QUARTER, IT'S ONE FOURTH OF THE YEAR, WE SHOULD BE AT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT.
BUT KYLE HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THAT AND HE CAN EXPLAIN HOW, WELL AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW OR WE.
OK. YOU WANT HIM TO GIVE A LITTLE INSIGHT ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE THAT FIVE PERCENT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST ONE OTHER THING BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK BACK AT PAGE [INAUDIBLE] OK I REALIZED AFTER THE FACT AFTER THIS GOT PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, IT'S [INAUDIBLE] IS OFF, RIGHT? YES, RIGHT? YOU, YOU WERE CORRECT THE WAY ON THE NEW BUDGET MODEL, BUT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF PART TIME WAGES.
AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE WAY WAS ADDED.
IT WAS ADDED ON THE PART TIME WAGES GOT OUT ON THE SUMMARY SHEET INSTEAD OF THE DETAIL SHEET THAT DID NOT PICK THOSE TAXES UP.
SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO COVER THOSE AT MIDYEAR, WHICH IS WHY IT'S ALREADY AT THIRTY SEVEN PERCENT.
OK, SO DO WE HAVE THE SAME SITUATION ON WORKERS' COMP, CHRIS? NO, NO, NO.
WHAT THAT IS AN ANNUAL THAT'S PAID THROUGH TML WORKER'S COMP ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO WE'VE ALREADY PAID 100 PERCENT OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE UNDER BUDGET BY EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIFTY SEVEN DOLLARS. AND IT'S A MINOR ISSUE, BUT MEDICAL EXPENSES, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE
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PAYING OUT OF POCKET WHEN SOMEBODY GETS HURT OR SOMETHING.THAT MEDICAL EXPENSE THAT IS THE REASON IT'S HARD, THAT'S THAT THAT THAT IS THE THE DRUG TEST WHEN YOU HIRE SOMEBODY.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON YOUR NEW HIRES.
OK, I THINK THAT WAS THAT WAS BECAUSE I KNEW WE HAD THAT ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD ON THIS ON COMMUTE COMPUTER MAINTENANCE.
YES. WAS IT A SPECIFIC PROJECT? NO, WHAT THAT IS IS THAT'S YOUR YOUR CIVIC REC.
IT'S SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR CIVIL REC.
IT'S PAID ANNUALLY. SO IT'S ALREADY PAID FOR THE YEAR.
SO WE'RE DONE. WELL, THAT PART IS DONE.
THAT'S A BIG THAT'S THE BIG PORTION.
THAT'S WHY IT'S AT SEVENTY PERCENT, BECAUSE WE BECAUSE WE PAY SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR AN ANNUAL PAYMENT OF THAT EIGHTY ONE HUNDRED AND THERE'S SOME OTHER SOME OTHER MAINTENANCE FEES IN THERE. THAT'S WHAT'S IN THAT.
OK, SO WHAT I WAS PICKING UP HERE IS THAT IT'S.
WE'RE NOT UP TO WHERE BUDGETS SHOULD BE.
NOT THAT WE WON'T GET THERE, BUT JUST SORT OF MAKING SURE I WAS FOLLOWING THAT RIGHT, THAT ONE OTHER THING, LET ME KNOW ONE OTHER THING THAT WE DID FIND LAST WEEK AFTER THIS PACKET WENT OUT. SALARY WAGES LOOKS LIKE IT'S AT TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IT'S A LITTLE HIGH, BUT IT'S REALLY KYLE WAS HAD HAS BEEN GETTING CODED TO THE REC CENTER WHEN REALLY SHOULD BE IN PARKS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A RECLASS ENTRY.
AND WHEN WE RECLASS KYLE'S SALARIES, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE BELOW.
IT'S GOING TO BE AT TWENTY ONE PERCENT.
SO THAT IS NOT REALLY SALARIES ARE REALLY UNDER BUDGET AND THAT'S GOING TO BRING YOUR TOTAL INSTEAD OF A FORTY THOUSAND FORTY A FORTY THOUSAND DEFICIT WE'LL BE AT TWENTY TWO.
SO OVERALL, WE'RE REALLY ONLY AT A TWENTY TWO THOUSAND DEFICIT, AND THAT'S THE INCOME WE NEED TO MAKE UP BY THE END OF THE YEAR, OK, ONCE WE MAKE THAT RECLASS CORRECTION AND MOVE HIM TO PARKS DEPARTMENT.
OK, WHEN YOU SAID INSTEAD OF AT FORTY THOUSAND, WHERE ARE WE? WELL, THE DEFICIT ON THE REC CENTER ON PAGE FIFTEEN, THANK YOU, IS FORTY ONE THOUSAND SEVEN FORTY NINE RIGHT NOW.
[INAUDIBLE] TWENTY TWO THOUSAND SEVEN EIGHTEEN IS THE REAL IS THE ACTUAL NUMBER AFTER THAT RECLASS CORRECTION.
GREAT. OK, SO ON THE PAGE THAT YOU SENT OUT, THAT HAS THE ALL THE PROJECTS.
LET ME WALK MYSELF THROUGH IT BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE WERE ADDING BACK THE TWO SEVENTEEN, BUT THAT IS TO THAT'S BECAUSE THOSE ARE BUDGETING BECAUSE THOSE WHY WE'RE ADDING THE TWO SEVENTEEN, BECAUSE THOSE ARE BUDGETED FUNDS THAT IF WE DO HIT OUR SALES TAX BUDGET, WE DO HAVE THOSE EXPENSES THAT THAT AMOUNT BUDGETED FOR PROJECTS AND EXPENSES. SO THAT WOULD GIVE US A TOTAL AMOUNT FOR PROJECTS OF NINE NINETY SIX ASSUMING WE HIT OUR SALES TAX BUDGET.
BUT THAT AS SOON AS WE DO, WE DON'T HAVE A LOSS, RIGHT, ASSUMES THAT WE ALSO DO HAVE TO PAY OUR DEBT SERVICE.
OH, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
BUT YOU'RE STARTING FROM FUND BALANCE, RIGHT? I'M STARTING FROM WHAT WE WERE BRINGING IN FROM LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S ON PAGE SEVENTEEN.
THAT'S SEVEN SEVENTY NINE IF YOU WANT TO CHECK THAT NUMBER.
THAT'S THE FUN BALANCE THAT CAME INTO THIS YEAR AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
SO THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HIT OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR.
THAT BUDGET INCLUDES THAT SALES TAX INCREASE AND ALL OF THE EXPENSES THAT WE'VE BUDGETED.
AND IT ALSO INCLUDES DEBT SERVICE IN THERE.
ALL THE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO GET PAID OUT IS IN THERE.
SO IF WE HIT OUR BUDGET, WE WILL HAVE NO IMPACT TO FUND BALANCE.
IF WE HAVE A DEFICIT, IT WILL REDUCE IT.
IF WE SAY WE'RE SPENDING, WE ASSUME WERE GOING TO HIT THE BUDGET, WE DON'T.
WE MAKE THE BUDGET, WHICH MEANS WE GET A 14 PERCENT INCREASE OVER SALES TAX LAST YEAR, WHICH IS TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND RIGHT.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY MORE THAN THE EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND THAT WERE ALREADY PAYING FOR THE REC CENTER.
THEN WE'LL WE'RE ASSUMING THE REC CENTER IS GOING TO HIT THEIR BUDGET TOO.
BUT YES, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, BUT YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.
IF WE DON'T, THAT DEFICIT WILL COME OUT OF BALANCE, RIGHT? YES. RIGHT. YEAH.
SO. THAT WOULD PUT US AT A FUND BALANCE OF SIX TWELVE, RIGHT, WHICH
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IS A DEFICIT OF ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY.I'M AWFUL. YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.
ABOUT ONE SIXTY, RIGHT? RIGHT. OK, IF WE HIT OUR BUDGET.
ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO FOLLOW THAT? [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT.
I GUESS WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT ONE.
THE SALES TAX REALLY TAKES OFF.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GO, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING THAT JOE SAID.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JOE'S MAKING THE MOST CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS.
YOU KNOW THAT THE SALES TAX ARE GOING TO STAY LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THESE, THIS FOURTEEN PERCENT INCREASE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE HE'S NOT FACTORED IN THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE NEW HOMES AND NEW PEOPLE.
HE'S NOT. THE POPULATION SHOULD GROW FROM TWENTY TO THIRTY THOUSAND.
HE'S NOT CALCULATING ANY OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU ASSUME THOSE THINGS AND THOSE THINGS, WHEN THOSE THINGS OCCUR, WE WILL HAVE CAPACITY AND ALL THOSE SUBDIVISIONS ARE IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE SEVEN OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE THAT ARE THAT ARE GOING ON.
AND AS SOON AS THOSE HAPPEN, WE WILL HAVE CAPACITY.
BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS PAUSE UNTIL WE SEE IT HAPPEN, WE NEED TO SEE IT.
AND HE WANTS, YOU KNOW, HE WANTS TO SEE IT.
BUT BUT IN MY OPINION, THE THE THE REAL FINANCIAL CRUX IS THAT WE WENT FROM LIKE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE REC CENTER TO EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I MEAN, WE ARE SUCKING ALL THIS SALES TAX MONEY OUT.
I MEAN, THE OPERATIONS OF REC CENTER.
AND JOE, WHEN JOE OBVIOUSLY ORIGINALLY WHEN HE TOLD ME WE HAVE WE HAD CAPACITY.
AND I CAME IN AND I SAID WE HAD CAPACITY.
HE WASN'T CONSIDERING THE INCREASE IN THE REC FUNDING OR THE PARK FUNDING.
HE DIDN'T. HE DID. HE MISSED THAT IN THE BUDGET.
HE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT WAS OCCURRING.
SO THAT'S WHY HE THOUGHT WE HAD CAPACITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE
[3. Discussion on Park and Recreation Department updates.]
. YES SO WE HAVE SEVERAL UPDATES FOR YOU ALL WITH RESPECT TO ABLC PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE INVOLVED IN OR JUST PROJECTS THAT WE WANT YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF.SO THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRIEFLY REVIEW IS VETERANS RFQ.
WE WENT OUT FOR AN RFQ IN DECEMBER OF 2021.
IT CLOSED IN TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY REGARDING A VETERANS PARK RENOVATION.
THE CITY STAFF HAD PROPOSED THAT THIS RENOVATION BE INCLUDED IN THE BOND PACKAGE FOR CITY CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.
COUNCIL DID DISCUSS THIS ITEM AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE REGARDING FUNDS FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF OUR OBLIGATIONS TO BE DEDICATED TOWARDS CITY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, NOT INCLUDING PARK RENOVATIONS.
SO STAFF IS STILL COMPILING THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM CONSULTANTS FOR PARKS, BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL, AND POTENTIALLY WE'LL NEED ABLC TO REVIEW AND RANK SO THAT WE CAN GRADUALLY WORK TOWARDS RENOVATION AND PROPOSING THAT CONCEPT PLANS BE BUDGETED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO THIS BUDGETED FOR SOURCE IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED.
THAT COULD BE THE GENERAL FUND FOR PARKS, OR IT COULD.
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WE COULD PROPOSE THIS ALL TO YOU GUYS AND DISCUSS THAT IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP NEXT MONTH.YES, SHE SHE MANAGES THE IT WOULD TYPICALLY BE CORRECT.
MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU LOOK AT UTILIZING FUNDS LIKE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, IT HAS TO BE GEARED TOWARDS AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO GET HEADS IN BEDS THROUGH THOSE RENOVATIONS. SO SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT SEE THE TOP FUNDS OR UTILIZED FOR LARGE PROJECTS THAT GET TOURNAMENTS IN TOWN OR THINGS LIKE THAT AT SPORTS COMPLEXES.
THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK INTO.
WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EVENTS THAT WE ARE OFFERING ARE ACTUALLY GETTING HEADS AND BEDS. SO FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] CHRISTMAS THAT IS DOWNTOWN.
THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THE NIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN BE THERE THE NEXT DAY FOR A SLEW OF ACTIVITY.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A FESTIVAL WHERE IT'S A MULTI-DAY TYPE OF EVENT, THOSE ARE HAVE A BETTER LIKELIHOOD OF BEING JUSTIFIED FOR USING THOSE THOSE TYPES OF FUNDS.
BUT IT'S IT'S NOT TO SAY IT CAN'T BE DONE.
SO. YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
AND THAT'S AN EASY WAY TO HAVE IT HEADS IN BEDS MEANS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE PUTTING PEOPLE THERE. IT'S A GREAT USE OF THAT SOURCE OF FUNDING WITH THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX.
RIGHT? DO WE HAVE MUCH HOTEL MOTEL TAX? I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A HOTEL PROBABLY SPEAK BETTER TO THAT THAN I AM OF THEM IN TOWN. I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE GOT A HANDFUL NOW.
WE HAVE WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN HOTELS AND IT IT WAS BEFORE COVID HAPPENED, WE WERE GETTING ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR SITTING NOW.
IT'S A LOT LESS THAN THAT NOW.
OK. IT'S BEEN REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE COVID OCCURRED, BUT IT'S STARTING TO COME BACK AND WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY GOING TO TALK TO AN AUDITOR TOMORROW BECAUSE WHAT WE THEY BASICALLY FILL OUT A REPORT.
WE JUST TRUST THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER.
BUT SO WE'RE GOING TO ALSO DO SOME AUDITS, WHICH COULD GENERATE SOME MORE REVENUE.
BUT IT IS. SO IT'S ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING ANNUALLY ON THAT TAX.
WELL, YOU DID HEAR THAT NOW THAT THE BIG STATE OF THE UNION, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO MORROW COVIDS NOW OVER.
TWO FIFTY NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SEE IT RIGHT.
IT'S GOING TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
SO OK. WELL, BUT AND IT'LL AND THAT'LL BE GREAT BECAUSE ONCE PEOPLE START GETTING OUT AND MOVING AROUND, THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AND AND THAT SORTS OF FUND WILL BE THERE.
SO. RIGHT? SO SOUTH SIDE PARK LAND ACQUISITION, WE HAVE CLOSED ON SOUTH SIDE PROPERTY, THAT DATE OF CLOSING WAS FEBRUARY 8TH, AND STAFF ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM ADJACENT LAND OWNERS ABOUT ADDITIONAL PARCELS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE.
BUT AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NOT ENTERED INTO ANY NEGOTIATIONS, BUT WE DO.
WE ARE NOW OWNERS OF A LITTLE LESS THAN SEVEN ACRES ON CEMETERY ROAD.
HOW MUCH DID IT COST US? IT DID COST US A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND.
OK, AND WHERE DID WE PAY FOR THAT? WHERE'S THAT? SO STAFF IS WORKING ON DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES LIKE WE MENTIONED IN THE MEETING WITH, I BELIEVE IT WAS CITY COUNCIL, YOU'LL SEE IT IN PARKS BOARD. WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO COVER THE ENTIRE AMOUNT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING TO CITY COUNCIL AT A FUTURE MEETING.
OK. AND JUST OUT OF CLARIFICATION, CAN YOU REMIND ME, DID WE JUST GET ONE PROPERTY OR DID WE GET BOTH OF THEM? WE WERE ATTEMPTING FOR TWO.
SO WE'RE STILL I WOULDN'T SAY WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING.
I THINK WE'RE OUT OF NEGOTIATING, BUT THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED AN OFFER.
YES, THERE'S INTEREST THERE SO THAT IF THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO COME BACK TO US, THEY CERTAINLY CAN.
[INAUDIBLE] YOU SAID SEVEN POINT HOW MANY ACRES? IT'S ABOUT.
IT'S IT'S JUST SHY OF SEVEN, SO IT'S LIKE SIX POINT NINE ACRES.
HOW LARGE IS THE OH GOSH, I WANT TO SAY IT'S LIKE TWO POINT ONE ISH.
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YEAH, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION WE HAD BACK, I GUESS MAYBE SOME MONTHS BACK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF DOING THE PARK ON THE SOUTH SIDE.YEAH. PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE STAFF DID PRESENT THE ORDINANCE TO PLANNING AND ZONING ON FEBRUARY 3RD, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MS. EBY WAS NOT AT THE MEETING, BUT ALL OTHER MEMBERS DID APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.
STAFF ALSO PRESENTED THE ORDINANCE TO CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 22ND AND THREE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DID APPROVE THE ITEM WALL TO OPPOSE THE ITEM, SO THAT REVISED ORDINANCE HAS BEEN APPROVED AND ADOPTED, WHICH WILL HELP US WITH SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN.
SO WE WILL BE COLLECTING PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES IF THEY DO NOT CONVEY PARKLAND TO US, BUT WE WILL ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT WE WEREN'T DOING BEFORE.
WE WILL BE COLLECTING DEVELOPMENT FEES.
SO ORIGINALLY WE WERE JUST GETTING FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND.
AND NOW WE'RE ALSO GETTING DEVELOPMENT FEES, WHICH WILL HELP US TREMENDOUSLY WITH SOME OF THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE OR JUST EVEN PARK DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL PROVIDE ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE.
CAN YOU EXECUTIVE SUMMARY TELL US HOW THAT'S CALCULATED? WELL, SO WHAT WE DO IS IF YOU WERE A DEVELOPER COMING INTO TOWN, WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING IT ON THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE LOT.
SO THERE IS A RATHER LENGTHY CALCULATION, IF YOU WILL, IS ATTACHED AS AN APPENDIX TO THE ORDINANCE.
BUT THAT'S HOW WE'RE FINDING THE VALUE OF THE LAND.
AND THEN WE'RE UTILIZING OUR CURRENT STANDARD LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH IS OUR NUMBER OF ACRES DIVIDED BY THE POPULATION TO GET OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, [INAUDIBLE].
IT'S AGAIN VERY LENGTHY CALCULATION, SO I'LL HAVE TO SEND IT TO RUNNING OUT OF SPACE EVEN AS HE TALKS.
WE DO TAKE THINGS THAT WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ARE THE COST FOR DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE DEVELOPED PARKLAND, BUT WE ALSO HAVE UNDEVELOPED PARKLAND LIKE WELCH PARK AND THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE THAT'S CALCULATED AS PARK PARKLAND.
AND SO WE TAKE THE CALCULATION OF WHAT IT TAKES TO DEVELOP LAND.
WE'RE USING THE MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE, WHICH IS LAKESIDE PARK, DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF ACRES, WHICH IS FORTY FIVE.
AND SO WE UTILIZE ALL OF THESE CALCULATIONS TO DERIVE THE AMOUNT THAT A DEVELOPER WOULD PAY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FEE AND THEN ALSO FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE.
SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS THAT WE ADD TOGETHER, BUT MUCH OF THAT WEIGHS IN ON THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE LOT.
OK, SO WHICH WE TAKE FROM [INAUDIBLE] HAD THE MOST RECENT APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
AND IF IF ONE PARTY FEELS THAT IT'S NOT ACCURATE, THEN AT THE DEVELOPER'S EXPENSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET AN APPRAISAL DONE.
OH, DID I TURN IT OFF THE FIRST TIME? OH, I'M SORRY, CHRIS, THOUGHT I WAS HELPING.
YOU SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIFTY PERCENT INCREASE IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT ANGLETON FROM THE PROJECTS ALREADY HERE.
SO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO, MAY NOT MEAN WE'RE GOING TO A WHOLE POPULATION BE FIFTY PERCENT.
BUT OUR VIEW IS IF IT COSTS US THREE AND A HALF, THE LAKESIDE PARK REALLY IS JUST A PAVILION IN A TRAILER, SIX AND A HALF MILLION'S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO SPEND ON FREEDOM PARK. YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE THE MONEY.
SO OUR CONCERN WAS, YOU GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE COME IN.
YOU NEED THIS AND THAT IT FELT LIKE WHETHER IT WAS DEVELOPERS OR WHATEVER THE WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THE BURDEN PUT ON THE TAXPAYERS, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT TO RAISE THE TAXES OR DO WHATEVER, SAY WE NEED MORE BALL FIELDS, SO WE HAVE TO DO THIS OR THAT. SO THEY FIGURED THERE IS A GROUND WHERE WE CAN ADD THAT MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE TO COST, YOU COVER IT.
IT DOESN'T HURT THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO IT WAS JUST AND SHE CAN TELL YOU THIS IS DONE ALL ACROSS THE STATE.
WELL, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE FIRST EXPLAINING THAT WHEN YOU CAME, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT AT ANGLETON.
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WE SHOULD OFFER THE SAME THINGS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS.YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER COMMUNITY, BUT WE DON'T THINK OF OURSELVES AS NOT BEING FORWARD LOOKING.
SO, SO IT'S GREAT TO KNOW THAT THAT THAT'S OUT THERE AND THEN WE GET IN THE GAME AND AND WITH ALL THE THE THE NEW DEVELOPERS, I'M SURE THEY'RE USED TO PAYING IT ELSEWHERE.
I THINK MISSOURI CITY IS MAYBE A FOURTEEN HUNDRED FEE.
WE HAVE SOME HAVE OVER TWO THOUSAND FLAT FEES.
AND THEN SHE PROPOSED IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND THERE'S A GENTLEMAN NAMED DR.
CROMPTON, WHO AM PROFESSOR WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE EXPERT IN IT.
HE WAS ON LIVE WITH US ON SEVERAL MEETINGS, AND I THINK IT WAS HER GO TO GUY TO KIND OF HELP. PUT IT TOGETHER, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT.
IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS SAYING, OK, YOU GOT THIS AMOUNT, BUT BUT THE CALCULUS WILL BE THERE WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN, SHE CAN SAY ABSOLUTELY.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A NO NO, BUT BUT THERE IS OPPORTUNITY.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO QUESTION IT, SHE CAN VALIDATE IT THROUGH DIFFERENT METHODS.
SO. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE TOOK THE APPROACH THAT WE DID, JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW AND ESPECIALLY EVEN USE DR.
CROMPTON WAS HE HAS STUDIED THE CASE LAW AND IT HAS ACTUALLY TESTIFIED IN MANY OF CASES WHERE DEVELOPERS HAD PURSUED LITIGATION BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE WAS SO LOOSE IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. AND SO THE REASON THAT WE'VE TAKEN THIS APPROACH IS THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MISINTERPRET THE CALCULATION OR THE METHODOLOGY.
WHILE WE PUT THIS OUT JUST LIKE ANY ORDINANCE AND THEY CAN PURSUE A VARIANCE THROUGH CITY COUNCIL. BUT IT GIVES US BACKING AS A DEPARTMENT, AS A CITY TO SAY THIS IS WHAT OUR STANDARD IS AND THIS IS WHAT THE FEE WOULD BE.
WHAT HAPPENS PAST THAT IS REALLY UP TO CITY COUNCIL? WELL, AND THE OTHER REALITY IS IS ALL LOTS DON'T HAVE THE SAME VALUE.
AND SO TO JUST PUT AN AMOUNT PER LOT, SURE.
MIGHT MAKE A SMALLER LOT OWNER FEEL LIKE THEY ARE PAYING MORE BECAUSE THEY ARE THEN A BIGGER LOT OWNER, BECAUSE YOUR LOT IS BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOUR APPRAISAL IS GENERALLY GOT A SQUARE FOOT CALCULATION AND IT'S SO DOING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT JUST A STRAIGHT UP. HERE'S FOR EVERY LOT.
MAYBE IT MAKES DEVELOPERS NOT MAKE THEM SO SMALL.
BUT THESE ARE KIND OF THE, ALL CITIES ARE DOING IT, AND I KNOW ANGLETON WE HAVE TWENTY.
THE LAST SECTION I DID AND THE ONE THAT JUST GOT UNDERWAY AS A TON OF NEW FEES WITH A [INAUDIBLE] SO I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH MONEY FOR SEWER UPGRADES.
THIS UPGRADES THE CITY'S IS STRETCHED THIN, SO THERE MAY BE NEW IMPACT FEES INSTEAD OF CAP FEES AND OTHER THINGS WE HAVE TO PAY.
IF YOU'RE DOING THIS BUSINESS HERE, YOU'RE DOING IT ELSEWHERE.
YOU GOT FEES BECAUSE THE CITY'S THAT DOES HIT THEM IN THE POCKETBOOKS WHEN THEY SEE NEW GROWTH IS NOT ALL ROSY.
OH, WE GOT NEW ROOFTOPS THAT COMES AT A COST.
YEAH, EVERY EVERYTHING HAS AN EXPENSE TO IT.
I AM. SO WE ALSO HAVE THE DOWNING TENNIS COURTS, WHICH YOU ALL APPROVED AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN RENOVATIONS.
YOU DID SPECIFICALLY MENTION LIGHTING.
SO I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE COST FOR SOLAR LIGHTING WAS OVER FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN LED LIGHTING AMOUNTED TO ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN.
WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS PURSUING A GRANT WITH THE ASSOCIATION FOR LIGHTING.
WE'D REALLY LIKE TO UTILIZE THE THIRTY THOUSAND FOR THE RESURFACING OF THE COURTS AND NEW FENCING, WHICH WE THINK IS GOING TO MAKE THAT FACILITY LOOK FAR BETTER.
AND WITH THAT, WE'RE WORKING ON INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR LONG TERM MAINTENANCE WITH AISD. WASN'T THERE SOME CONTROVERSY? I REMEMBER THAT JOHN KNEW A LOT ABOUT LIGHTS.
IS IT IS IT THAT ONE IS PREFERRED OVER THE OTHER? IS IT DON'T USE LEDS OR USE LEDS, SO THEY PREFER NOT SOLAR LIGHTS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE STANDARD FOR TOURNAMENT PLAY? SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP OUR EYE OUT FOR THOSE GRANTS COMING ONLINE SO THAT WE CAN PURSUE THOSE. BUT WE DO WANT TO SHOW THAT ACTIVITY IS TAKING PLACE FIRST.
SO I MEAN, THEY THINK THERE IS EITHER THEY WERE GOING TO PARTICIPATE THEIR ASSOCIATION OR THEY KNEW A PLACE. YES.
YES. ISN'T IT USTA BELIEVE IT'S USTA.
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THE GRANTS THROUGH USTA WHICH THEY ARE AFFILIATES OF AND BECAUSE THEY'RE A NONPROFIT, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THAT SO THAT WE WOULD DO IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM AND POTENTIALLY EVEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SINCE IT'S THEIR FACILITY.SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT THERE.
ALSO, JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN ITEMS FOR THIS YEAR IS TO REVIEW THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT MISSION AND VISION.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WILL BE GOING OUT FOR A PUBLIC SURVEY.
WE KIND OF TOOK A PULSE WHEN WE DID OUR MASTER PLAN IN 2019.
SURVEY WENT OUT TO THE CITY IN 2018 AND THAT REALLY HELPED US GUIDE WHERE WE NEEDED TO GO. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CURRENT MISSION AND VISION ALIGNS WITH THAT DIRECTION. AND SO WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC AGAIN AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IF IF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT SPECIAL EVENTS ANYMORE, THEN WE'LL STOP SPENDING MONEY ON SPECIAL EVENTS.
SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE SURVEY AND THE MISSION AND VISION WILL BE REALIGNED.
WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS A MARCH BUDGET WORKSHOP SO THAT YOU GUYS KNOW WE'RE THINKING OF DOING THAT IN COLLABORATION WITH PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD BECAUSE THOSE BUDGETS ARE INTERMINGLED JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE COMING OUT.
I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THE PRESSING NEEDS ARE IN THE PARKS AND YOU PAY FOR A PORTION OF THE SALARIES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MARCH 21ST FOR THAT MEETING.
ADA SELF-EVALUATION TRANSITION PLAN IS UNDERWAY.
AS A REMINDER, THAT'S A NINE MONTH PROJECT.
SO THEY HAVE STARTED DOING THEIR FIELD ASSESSMENTS AND WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO THE ADVISORY GROUP, WHICH WILL BE CONSISTS OF THE HIKE AND BIKE COMMITTEE AND OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE SAID THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN SERVING.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON ROLLING THAT OUT AS FAR AS THE RECREATION CENTER GOES WE HAVE A WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS COMPLETED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET.
SCOREBOARD WAS RECENTLY UPDATED AND OUR GYMNASIUM, WE ARE WORKING WITH A GROUP CALLED I9 SPORTS TO CONTRACT OUT SOME INDOOR AND OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL SPORTS LEAGUES.
AND SO THAT SCOREBOARD WILL BE UTILIZED FOR SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES WITHIN OUR ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, INCLUDING VOLLEYBALL.
WE ALSO HAVE AUTOMATED DOORS THAT HELP WITH OUR ADA COMPLIANCE.
THOSE WERE JUST RECENTLY INSTALLED IN FEBRUARY, SO PLEASE DO GO BY THE REC CENTER AND SEE THOSE.
DAMPER REPLACEMENTS HAVE BEEN ORDERED BUT NOT INSTALLED.
AND WE ALSO HAVE THE DIVIDER WALL WITHIN OUR MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS, NOT THE GYMNASIUM, BUT THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS THAT IS IN DIRE NEED OF REPAIR.
SO THAT IS ON ORDER BUT HAS NOT BEEN INSTALLED.
OUR PARKS DIVISION IN THE WINTER MONTHS TRIES TO KNOCK OUT SO MANY PROJECTS IN OUR PARKS AT OTHER FACILITIES, ONE OF WHICH WAS REMOVING INOPERABLE BOLLARD LIGHTING WE HAD INSTALLED AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR LAST YEAR.
LED LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOT, WHICH REALLY HELPED WITH THE OVERALL APPEARANCE AND JUST SAFETY AND LIGHTING AT THE RECREATION CENTER.
AND SO WE NO LONGER NEEDED THE BOLLARDS AND THEY WERE CONSTANT MAINTENANCE ISSUE FOR US.
SO PARK STAFF HAVE COMPLETELY REMOVED THEM AND CAPPED THEM THE ELECTRICALS STILL THERE.
IF WE EVER WANT TO GO BACK AND DO ANYTHING, HAVE PLUGS, BUT THEY ARE REMOVED.
WE ALSO REMOVE THE FENCING AROUND THE FLAGPOLES, WHICH REALLY OPENED UP THE THE SIDEWALK AREA. SO WE APPRECIATE THEM DOING THAT.
THEY WILL BEGIN THE WALL REMOVAL OF THE PLAZA.
I KNOW WE'VE ALL BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
THEY WILL BEGIN THAT MARCH 7TH IS THEIR DATE AND AS A REMINDER, WE ALREADY HAVE THE MATERIALS FOR THE POLES AND THE STRAND LIGHTING.
WE HAVE OUR GOALS IN AND OUR TABLES.
OUR TABLES HAVEN'T BEEN FULLY PUT TOGETHER, SO THOSE ARE SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY'LL DO AS WE MOVE ALONG WITH THAT PROJECT.
EVENTS AND PROGRAMS FATHER DAUGHTER DANCE DID MAKE THIS YEAR WITH TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE GUESTS. WE WERE REALLY EXCITED.
SOUNDS LIKE A LOT. IT IS GREAT CONSIDERING COMING BACK FROM A COVID YEAR OF NO FATHER DAUGHTER DANCE, SO WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE ALSO ARE PLANNING ON FREEDOM FIREWORKS FOR IT'S ALWAYS A SATURDAY BEFORE 4TH OF JULY AND JULY IS NATIONAL PARKS AND REC MONTH THAT STAFF IS PREPARING FOR.
WE ALSO HAVE SUMMER PROGRAMS WHILE WE ARE NOT OFFERING.
I THINK I MENTIONED TO YOU GUYS VIA EMAIL.
WE'RE NOT OFFERING SUMMER CAMP.
WE OFFER SEASONAL CAMPS NOW BECAUSE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, IT HAS.
THEY INITIATED LAST YEAR A REALLY GREAT SUMMER CAMP THAT IS UNDER THE RATE THAT WE CAN OFFER, AND THEY CAN SERVE QUITE A FEW MORE PEOPLE THAN WE CAN.
AND SUMMER CAMP TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN NEARLY A BREAK EVEN ON EXPENSES VERSUS REVENUE.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO UTILIZE OUR RESOURCES ELSEWHERE THAT BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
SO ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BRING BACK THAT WE DID NOT HAVE LAST YEAR
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DUE TO COVID, BUT HAD THE YEAR BEFORE AND WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL WAS OUR SUMMER TRACK PROGRAM. AND SO WE'RE BRINGING THAT BACK AND ARE HOPING TO CONTRACT OUT.I WOULD LOVE SOME OF OUR ASD COACHES TO COME AND ASSIST US, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ADVERTISING TO THEM.
THEY HAVE AN ELEMENTARY TRACK PROGRAM AT THE END OF THE YEAR THAT I'M TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION FED INTO FOR THOSE LITTLE KIDDOS AS WELL AS THE TEACHERS, SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. AND AS I MENTIONED, I9 SPORTS WERE LAUNCHING THOSE THIS SUMMER.
IT THIS THE SUMMER PROGRAMS. THAT'S THE SUMMER JAMBOREE, RIGHT? YES, MAN. THAT'S SAD TO SEE THAT GO, ACTUALLY.
YEAH, I REMEMBER MY KIDS WHEN THEY WERE SO MUCH SMALLER, THEY WERE PART OF THAT.
AND SO IT WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL.
BUT LIKE YOU SAY, YES, THE GIRLS CLUB, THAT SEEMED LIKE IT TAKES LESS STRESS.
YES. AND WHAT WE TRY TO DO AS A DEPARTMENT, OUR PHILOSOPHY REALLY IS COLLABORATING WITH LOCAL PARTNERS.
AND I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU GUYS BEFORE, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DON'T OFFER AN ANNUAL EASTER EGG HUNT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY CHURCHES IN TOWN THAT ARE OFFERING THAT SERVICE.
SO WHEN WE CAN COLLABORATE AND IDENTIFY THESE RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE WORKING OFF OF COST RECOVERY, IF WE KNOW THAT THERE IS ANOTHER AVAILABLE RESOURCE OUT THERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE DON'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH THEM IF WE DON'T ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.
SO LIKE WHEN THEY'RE OFF DURING SPRING BREAK, WE'RE HAVING A SPRING BREAK CAMP, SAME THING DURING THANKSGIVING, WINTER BREAK.
EVEN THE I GUESS THEY CALL IT, I'M MISSING THAT THE WINTER BREAK IS IN OCTOBER, AND THEN THEY HAVE THE KIND OF THE CHRISTMAS BREAK.
WHILE WE'RE OFFERING THAT RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY A, YOU KNOW, HALF DAY TYPE OF PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO ELONGATE THAT WE HOPE TO IF WE CAN GET THE NUMBERS TO WORK, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SERVING THE PARENTS THAT ARE WORKING AND STILL NEED THAT RESOURCE BECAUSE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ISN'T HELPING IN THAT WAY, SO WE HOPE TO PARTNER OR COLLABORATE BY OFFERING THAT SERVICE.
WHERE DO THE BOYS AND GIRLS GIRLS CLUB? WHAT DO THEY HOLD? TYPICALLY AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FACILITY, SO IT'S USUALLY JUST IT'S.
REALLY CONVENIENT, BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT AFTER, YEAH, RIGHT AFTER SCHOOL, SO THEY HAVE AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER THEY PICK A SCHOOL OR THERE'S.
EXACTLY. TYPICALLY, WHOEVER IS NOT OFFERING SUMMER SCHOOL AT THEIR CAMPUS, THE ALTERNATIVE CAMPUSES ARE OFFERING THAT, OK.
AND THEN PARK. SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE FUNDED ARE THE FIELD FIVE LIGHTS FOR BATES PARK.
SO MATERIALS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED DUE TO SOME OF THE RECENT WEATHER THAT WE'VE HAD.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN DRIZZLY AND MUGGY.
IT HASN'T COMPLETELY DRIED UP FOR US TO START ON THE ELECTRICAL THERE, BUT THAT HAS.
WE HAVE THE MATERIALS ON SITE, BUT WE HAVE NOT THE CONTRACTORS HAVE NOT STARTED FOR ELECTRICAL AND AND INSTALLATION, SO WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT.
PARK STANDARDS. WE ARE MAKING HUGE PROGRESS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AT THAT MARCH MEETING.
WE'LL HAVE SIXTY PERCENT COMPLETION WITH THAT PARK STANDARDS MANUAL.
AND AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED THAT REALLY HELPS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARK DEDICATION PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE.
BECAUSE THIS WILL ALLOW US TO IT'S GOING TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT, BUT THIS ALLOWS US TO CREATE STANDARDS FOR OUR PARK COMPONENTS SO THAT IF A DEVELOPER IS LIKE, YEAH, I WANT TO CONVEY A PART TO THE CITY, I WOULD MUCH PREFER THAT THAN GIVE YOU FEES.
WE CAN SAY HERE'S A MANUAL ON WHAT OUR STANDARD IS SO THAT YOU'RE BUILDING TO OUR STANDARD SO THAT PARKS ARE CONSISTENT FROM AREA TO AREA.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SHOW YOU GUYS THAT IN MARCH, AND THOSE ARE ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE [INAUDIBLE] REC CENTER.
THEY HAVE POSTED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND I GOT TO ATTEND, BUT THEY DID A REALLY AWESOME JOB. THINGS I DIDN'T KNOW.
[INAUDIBLE] PEOPLE ON PROGRAMS, THE ONE WHO HANDLES THE BINGO AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT THEY GAVE US A RUNDOWN ON EVERYTHING GOING.
OUTSTANDING JOB. GREAT, THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THAT.
ALL RIGHT. FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD ARE THE THE NUMBER ONE.
IT'S MORE FUN. I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION.
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YES. AND I HAVE HEARD REALLY GREAT THINGS ABOUT ANGLETON UNIVERSITY, AND I KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S REALLY HOPING I'LL PICK HER PARK RECOMMENDATIONS.I THINK I KNOW WHO THAT MIGHT BE.
I THINK YOU'LL HEAR FROM HER A LOT, SO I WON'T SAY HER NAME BECAUSE WE'RE LIVE, BUT I WANTED TO GO BACK REAL QUICK TO THE SOUTH SIDE PARK LAND ACQUISITION.
I'M BRAND NEW, BUT I JUST WANT TO SEE, IS THERE A PLAN KIND OF IN PLACE SHOULD WE BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THOSE ADDITIONAL PARCELS? AND THEN I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ALL THE MONEY TO PAY FOR WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ACQUIRED.
SO WHERE ARE WE LOOKING TO GET THE FUNDS FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL PARCELS? SURE. SO WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT UTILIZING SORRY, I'M ANSWERING YOUR SECOND QUESTION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PARKLAND DEDICATION, BUT WE ALSO CAN CONSIDER.
WELL, I SHOULD MAYBE ASK YOU BEFORE I SAY THIS, WE HAVE OTHER FUNDS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER. I KNOW GENERAL FUND BALANCES ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP.
WE CAN COME BACK TO ABLC AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
WE COULD ALSO IN OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE.
WHAT WE HAVE IN THAT ORDINANCE IS THAT WE CAN ACQUIRE LAND AND PAY BACK THE GENERAL FUND.
SO MEANING AS SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN AND PAY THEIR FEES, WE CAN CREDIT THE GENERAL FUND FOR THAT INITIAL EXPENSE.
SO THAT'S ONE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THE THE NEW ORDINANCE IS THAT IT ALLOWS US TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS AND THEN REFUND THE ACCOUNT WE COULD CONSIDER.
CHRIS, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN ON ARPA FUNDS, POTENTIALLY.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS. YES. SELL OF OTHER PROPERTIES.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT MAY COME BACK TO YOU ALL AS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION OR ALSO CITY COUNCIL FOR FUNDING.
AND THEN YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARK.
RIGHT. DID WE HAVE A PLAN IF WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THOSE ADDITIONAL PARK PARCELS? IS THERE ALREADY A PURPOSE DESIGNATED FOR THEM? SO WE HAVE GONE OUT.
LAST YEAR WE DID A PUBLIC SURVEY FOR FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT AND WE DID GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THAT AREA.
WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT ABLC AND ALSO PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD OF DIFFERENT PARK AMENITIES. SO WE HAVE LIKE THE TOP FIVE AMENITIES THAT WILL GROW AND EXPAND AS WE MOVE INTO CONCEPT PLANNING AND DESIGN OF A PARK WHICH WE WOULDN'T DO UNTIL WE HAVE DESIGNATED FUNDING. AND SO WHEN CHRIS WAS TALKING OR ASKING ABOUT BOND CAPACITY FOR ABLC THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL CONSIDER THE TIMING OF THAT MAYBE NOT UNTIL 2023 2024.
SO WHEN WE FIND THAT WE HAVE CAPACITY, THAT, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, HAS BEEN ABCCS DESIRE.
THAT IS THEIR TOP PRIORITY IS DEVELOPING A PARK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.
SHE'S ON OUR SECOND PAGE OF NOTES, I'M LEARNING LOTS.
ALL RIGHT. NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
[4. Discussion and possible action on Lakeside pavilion piling issues and potential budgetary solutions.]
MEGAN? YES, SO THIS ITEM IS TO REALLY JUST GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE, WE HAVE CLARK CONDON AND DL MEACHAM ON THE LINE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS BECAUSE LAKESIDE PARK IS REALLY ABLCS PARK PROJECT.WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS, BUT WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN, WE MEET WITH CLARK CONDON AND DL MEACHAM ON A BIWEEKLY BASIS.
WE ALSO RECEIVE WEEKLY REPORTS FROM DL MEACHAM ON THEIR PROGRESS AND ITEMS THAT ARE ISSUES. ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT HAS BECOME AN APPARENT ISSUE QUITE SOME TIME AGO THAT THE THE CONTRACTOR AND CLARK CONDON HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THEIR ENGINEERS IS THE PAVILION PILINGS. AND SO BECAUSE LAKESIDE PARK SITE HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN A SAND PIT, STILL IS ONE. WHILE IT HAS A WATER AMENITY, WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH THOSE DRILLED PIERS FOR THE PAVILION, SO THEY'RE CAVING IN ON US.
WE DID HAVE A GEOTECH DONE AND THE THE FIRST TWO APPROACHES FOR THOSE OF PILINGS, BASICALLY, THEY'RE CAVING IN.
SO I'M GOING TO LET BOTH ELIZABETH GILBERT AND BRANDON WHITAKER.
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ARE YOU GUYS ON THE LINE AND CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN YOU UNMUTE THEM AND SEE IF THEY'RE.AND WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
SO KEYSTONE IS THE SUBCONTRACTOR FOR THIS SPECIFIC AREA.
THEY TRIED A TYPICAL PURE PROCEDURE WITH A SLURRY METHOD, AND THERE WERE, I THINK, WHAT WE HAD SENT TO YOU GUYS PREVIOUSLY AND REPORTS WERE VIDEOS AND PICTURES OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING. SO THEY ATTEMPTED AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD OF DRILLING HOLES AND PLACING CASINGS, BUT THE HOLES CAVED IN BEFORE THE CASINGS COULD BE PLACED.
SO THEY HAVE COME UP WITH MINIMALLY THREE OTHER OPTIONS ONE THAT CAME IN AT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND. ONE THAT I BELIEVE WAS TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE THOUSAND.
AND ANOTHER THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, OVER THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO THE METHOD THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ARE LET'S SEE.
DRIVING THE CASINGS AND FILLING THEM WITH CONCRETE AND THEN REMOVING THE CASINGS AFTER THE CONCRETE HAS BEEN SET AND THE MATERIALS HAVE BEEN SET.
WE DO HAVE A CONTINGENCY, A FIVE PERCENT CONTINGENCY IN THIS PROJECT.
WE WANTED MORE, BUT WE JUST COULD NOT GET THERE WITH OUR CUTS.
SO THE FIVE PERCENT CONTINGENCY GIVES US ABOUT A HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.
WE DID RECEIVE AN UPDATED QUOTE BECAUSE THERE WERE IN THE PLAN.
CECIL HAD POINTED OUT THAT THERE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WOOD PILINGS UNDER THE STAIRCASE COMING DOWN AND DL MEACHAM SAID.
HEY, WE WANT TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD WITH ALL OF THE PILINGS, WITH THE CONCRETE METHOD AT NO COST TO YOU.
SO THEY'RE REDUCING THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY SAID IT WOULD BE NO COST TO US.
I THINK IT BRINGS US TO I'M GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND.
ELIZABETH, CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK? YES. SO WHY WAS IT CAVING IN? I'M I'M OUT OF MY YES, QUICKSAND.
WHY THEY'RE GOING TO TWENTY EIGHT FEET.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF ANY OF OUR CIVILIANS THROUGHOUT THE CITY HAVE PEERS ELIZABETH, ARE YOU THERE? OH I'LL JUST CALL HER. SEE IF THAT WORKS.
TO CONCRETE. CORRECT? YES. CAN YOU HEAR US ON YOUR END? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. OK, SO I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE MIC, DOES THAT WORK? I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE HELPFUL FOR KERRY, BUT LET ME PUT YOU ON THE MIC. OK, ELIZABETH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
OKAY, GREAT. I'M SORRY ABOUT THIS.
SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MR. PELTIER HAD WAS REGARDING THE DEPTH OF THE PIERS, WHY ARE WE GOING SO DEEP? SO AND I WILL.
MY DISCLAIMER HERE IS THAT I AM NOT AN THE SOILS ENGINEER, SO I CAN JUST TELL YOU WHAT OUR GEOTECH ENGINEER HAD TOLD US AND WHAT OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS CONFIRMED.
AND THAT IS THAT THAT THE REQUIREMENT WAS THAT WE HAD TO GET TO BELOW THE BELOW THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE AND THAT HAD TO DO WITH WITH THE FORCES ON IT.
OK. AND YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE WERE VALUE ENGINEERING
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ALSO TO SEE IF WE COULD BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO BE VERY DEEP.SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD DO.
AND THE ONLY THING WE COULD HAVE DONE WOULD BE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PIERS.
BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO REDESIGN THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ENOUGH ON THE SAVINGS TO DO ALL OF THAT RIGHT.
LOWER PORTION? OR WAS THAT THE WOODEN? THE WOODEN PILES ARE THE STEPS DOWN TO THE KAYAK LAUNCH.
WE'RE USING THE WOODEN PILES AT THE UNDER THE STEPS AND THEN ALSO ON THE KAYAK LAND LAUNCH AND ON THE FISHING PIER.
THE OPTION OF THAT OR. SO WHAT I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE PLANS CALL FOR TWELVE INCH WOODEN PILES DRIVEN 20 FEET DEEP FOR PORTIONS OF THE PAVILION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO CHRIS? YES, YES. SO PAGE THIRTY ONE IN OUR PACKET.
AND IT HAS THE DRILL PIERS VERSUS WOODEN PILINGS.
RIGHT. AND WHAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE SAYING IS AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ELIZABETH, BUT THEY ARE DOING THAT IN CONCRETE AT THEIR EXPENSE.
AND SO THAT REVISED QUOTE WAS NOT ONE EIGHTY FIVE, IT WAS ONE EIGHTY NINE.
YES. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A, YOU KNOW, A DEFICIT OF WE HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY IN CONTINGENCY, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIRTY NINE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AND WE ALSO HAVE MATERIALS TESTING FROM [INAUDIBLE] THAT IS RIGHT AROUND TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE UP.
OK. WAS TESTING NOT IN? IT WAS NOT IN THE CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE IN WHAT I WAS INFORMED AS THAT WAS, THAT'S TYPICALLY AN EXPENSE THAT THE CITY SHOULD.
AND IT WAS MAYBE AN OVERSIGHT ON ON CITY STAFF'S PART, BUT IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE CONSTRUCTION BID BECAUSE THAT IS TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR COME IN AND DO THE TESTING.
YOU WOULDN'T INCLUDE THAT IN A CONSTRUCTION BID BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONE POURING THE CONCRETE. WHAT WAS THE THIRTY NINE PLUS TWENTY FOUR FOR? RIGHT, IT'S TWENTY FOUR SEVEN FORTY ONE FOR [INAUDIBLE] MATERIALS TESTING.
YES. ARE THEY ONLY TESTING THE CONCRETE PARKING LOT THAT'S SOMETHING WE . SO THE SO THE PROCESS IS TO PUT A CASING DOWN, AND THIS IS COMING FROM AN ACCOUNTANT, NOT A ENGINEER.
THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A CASING DOWN, FILL IT UP WITH CONCRETE.
LET THE CONCRETE DRY AND THEN PULL THE CASING OUT.
CORRECT. AND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY TRIED.
RIGHT. BECAUSE WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IS TRYING TO DRILL THE HOLES.
BUT AS SOON AS THAT DRILL COMES UP, IT'S RIGHT.
AND EVEN WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT IN A CASING AFTER THEY DRILL, THEY CAN'T EVEN GET THE CASING IN.
OK? THAT THAT HELPED RIGHT THERE.
YEAH, OK. BECAUSE I SAW WHAT I THOUGHT WAS CASINGS LAYING THERE ON THE ON THE PICTURES SO THEY COULDN'T GET THEM IN.
SO THEY HAVE THEY'RE GOING TO THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME CASINGS ON SITE THAT THEY TRIED. THIS METHOD THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY VIBRATE THE CASING INTO PLACE, AND IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS THE VIBRATOR. THERE'S ONLY THREE OF THOSE IN THE HOUSTON AREA, SO THEY HAVE TO GET THAT, BRING IT IN, VIBRATE THE CASINGS INTO PLACE AND THEN THEY DRILL DOWN INTO THE CASING AND THEN POUR THE CONCRETE. I GOT IT.
THANK YOU. OK. YEAH, IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING ALSO.
SO THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE IS THE SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IT'S RIGHT AROUND SIXTY FOUR BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE COST TO BE REDUCED DOWN TO ONE EIGHTY NINE. ORIGINALLY, THE QUOTE WAS FOR TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND.
WONDERFUL, BUT OK, THIS IS GOOD, BUT WE'VE USED UP ALL OF OUR CONTINGENCY.
CORRECT. HOWEVER, WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUR MOST RECENT.
BUT WHAT WE DID DISCUSS IN OUR MOST RECENT PROJECT MEETING WAS TYPICALLY YOUR ISSUES ARE
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GOING TO OCCUR AT THIS TIME.AND SO OUR HOPE IS THAT, YES, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS BIG.
WE'RE SEEING LIKE A FORTY OR FORTY FIVE PERCENT INCREASE IN LUMBER RIGHT NOW, SO WE HAVE N'T BID ON THAT. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS CAN THEY COME BACK WHEN THEY NEED OTHER THINGS IN THE SCOPE OF THE WORK THEY HAVE TO EAT, THEY IF IT COSTS MORE FOR THEM TO DO THAT THAN THEY INITIALLY BID, WHICH IT PROBABLY WILL UNLESS YOU PURCHASE IT BACK AT THE END WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR ANY OF THOSE OVERTURES IF IT WAS IN THEIR SCOPE OF WORK. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
ELIZABETH, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT CAN YOU CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT HE SAID I ONLY HEARD A PORTION OF IT.
THE CONCERN IS THAT THE PRICE OF, LET'S JUST SAY LUMBER IS INCREASING.
SO IF THEY HAVEN'T PURCHASED ALL OF THEIR MATERIALS, WOOD CONTRACTORS COME BACK TO US AND ASK US TO COVER OVERAGES.
NO, YOU'RE YOU HAVE A CONTRACT THAT'S SIGNED BY A CERTAIN DATE.
AND SO ANY TIME YOU KNOW IT'S ON THE CONTRACTOR TO GET ALL THOSE THINGS ORDERED QUICKLY SO THAT THEIR PRICES DON'T GO UP.
SO, NO, I DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY OF THAT HAPPENING.
SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS DISCOUNTED SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE BID.
YEAH, WE DID. SO WE DID THE GEOTECH REPORTS INITIALLY BEFORE WE STARTED THE DESIGN.
AND WHAT WHAT THEY'RE FINDING ON SITE IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE GEOTECH REPORT.
IT'S JUST NO ONE CAN QUITE EXPLAIN WHY IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MORE WATER IN THE IN THE SOIL THAN WHAT THERE WAS WHEN WE DID THE GEOTECH REPORT. BUT THE THE CHEFS ARE JUST NOT HOLDING UP, SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES.
BE BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED IN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS IS WHAT THEY BID THE PROJECT OFF OF.
AND THE GEOTECH REPORTS AND INFORMATION WERE IN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT.
SO THEY'RE THEY'RE BIDDING IT BASED OFF OF WHAT WAS PROVIDED.
AND SO WHEN THEY WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON THE PROJECT AND IT'S THEY'RE RUNNING INTO ISSUES WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THE FIRST TWO METHODS WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE BASED ON THE GEOTECH, THEY AREN'T.
THEY'RE NOT WORKING SO CLARK CONDON DID GEOTECH WORK AND IT WAS INCLUDED CORRECT.
IT WAS PROVIDED TO CONTRACTORS FOR BID DOCUMENTS.
THAT'S CORRECT. WE, AT THE BEGINNING OF DESIGN, PART OF OUR DESIGN TEAM, WE HAD A GEOTECH ENGINEER ON BOARD TO DO THE REPORT.
AND SO WE HAD THAT AND WE DESIGNED THE BUILDING BASED OFF OF OR WE DESIGNED ALL OF THE STRUCTURES. IT'S NOT A BUILDING, ALL OF THE STRUCTURES ON SITE BASED OFF OF THE GEOTECH REPORT. AND THEN WE ALSO GAVE THE GEOTECH REPORT TO THE TO THE CONTRACTORS WHEN WE WERE BIDDING THE PROJECT SO THAT THEY COULD SEE EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THERE.
BUT IN THE FUTURE, IT SEEMED TO BE THAT WOULD BE BETTER THEN TO COME IN AND GIVE A BID THAT INCLUDES THE WORK AND DOESN'T HAVE EXCLUSIONS OR ANOTHER SOMETHING TO EXCLUDE, BUT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND OVERAGE FOR FOUNDATIONS, A CHUNK OF MONEY.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE HOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO HAPPEN.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THE CITY COULD HAVE JUST PUT THE BALL IN THEIR COURT AND YOU PROVIDE THE GEOTAG DUE TO THIS.
SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU THINK IS PERTINENT TO ADD.
BUT I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS I DON'T KNOW THAT CONTRACTORS WOULD COME OUT AND DO GEOTECH IN ORDER TO GIVE US A CONSTRUCTION BID. NO.
I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT A TYPICAL.
THAT'S A THAT'S A LARGE EXPENSE FOR THEM TO JUST BID A PROJECT THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT
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GET. SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO.I WOULDN'T THINK, PAY FOR THE EXPENSE OF A GEOTECH REPORT JUST SO THEY COULD SUBMIT A CONSTRUCTION BID FOR A PROJECT.
SO WHO? SO THE CITY? CORRECT. WE PROVIDE IT SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AND ALL THE BIDDERS COULD USE IT. CORRECT. CORRECT.
MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR GEO TEAM.
I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST PROJECT THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON. DO YOU KNOW IF THAT IS COMMON FOR CITY PROJECTS? AND JUST TALK ENGINEERING.
WHAT CLARK CONDON DID FOR THIS PROJECT IS YOUR TYPICAL.
AT THE UP FRONT, YOU GO OUT FOR A GEOTECHNICAL INVESTIGATION.
THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF STRATIFICATION OF SOILS ARE BELOW THE SURFACE, THE GROUND WHERE THE WATER TABLE IS.
DIFFERENT TYPES OF SANDS AND SOILS HAVE DIFFERENT VARYING CAPACITIES.
SO THEY GOT THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT PROVIDED THEY GAVE THAT TO THEIR DESIGN ENGINEERS, WHO IN TURN DESIGNED THE FOOTINGS FOR THE PAVILION.
WHATEVER ELSE WAS OUT THERE TO BE DESIGNED.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE SIZE AND DIAMETER AND DEPTH OF THE PAVILION FOUNDATIONS, I PRESUME.
I WASN'T INVOLVED IN. THIS IS JUST THEN WHEN YOU GO INTO THE BIDDING PHASE.
THE. THE BIDDERS POTENTIAL CONTRACTORS GET THE COPIES OF THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS AND THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT SO THEY KNOW THE SITE SITUATION WHEN THEY GET THEIR FIRST SET OF PLANS AND THEY CAN GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AROUND AND CAN GO SEE VISIT.
WHY IS THIS BIG HOLE IN THE GROUND? WELL, IT WAS A SANDPIT.
OK, SO. MAYBE BELLS AND WHISTLES SHOULD GO OFF, BUT MAYBE NOT, SO ALL THIS IS ALL THIS IS PROVIDED UP FRONT.
SO EVERYBODY WORKING OFF THE SAME SONG SHEET, EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME DATA TO PREPARE THEIR BIDS. AND AT THE TIME OF THE PRE-BID INFORMATION GOING OUT AND HAVING PRE-BID MEETINGS AT THAT TIME, THE BIDDERS HAVE A CHANCE TO QUESTION THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED. DO YOU REALLY THINK THIS CAN WORK? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING TO BUILD THIS OR OR THEY GO AND SAY, I KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO BUILD THIS BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE WET SANDS CONDITIONS AND I'VE GOT TO DO THIS. TO BUILD THESE FOOTINGS IN.
SO. I HATE TO BE SPEAKING DOWN AGAINST THE CONTRACTORS, I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, BUT. I TEND TO THINK THE CONTRACTORS SHOULD HAVE FORESEEN SOME OF THIS SITE SITUATION PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THE BID TO THE CITY.
YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN REMOTE FROM THE PROJECT, I'VE BEEN SITTING UP THERE WHERE YOU FOLKS ARE, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD AS A CIVIL ENGINEER.
[INAUDIBLE] HEY, I'M JUST THINKING IF IF YOU TAKE, I DON'T KNOW, A HOME BUILDER OR SOMEONE AND YOU CONTRACT IT THE BILL AND THEY GET OUT THERE AND THEY HAVE THE SOIL AND FOR SOME REASON THE SOIL, IT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE THINK IS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE HOME BUILDER TO PASS THE COST ONTO THE HOME BUYER.
AND SO. SO MAYBE I'M JUST TAKING FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE, BUT I SORT OF SEE IT THAT WAY.
BUT THERE'S SOME UNFORESEEN THINGS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND I THINK WITH ANYTHING, IT'S IT'S BUILT IN TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BUILDING.
MAYBE SOMEONE WHO IS BUYING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FENCE THAT GOES ON.
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SO BOUNCE IT OFF OF YOU GUYS.SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK? I MEAN, IT'S LIKE WE DON'T WANT ANYONE ELSE TO INCUR THE EXPENSE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF IF WE CAN SAVE OURSELVES ON THE EXPENSE, IT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE WE HAVE COMING UP SHORT IN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS, THIS WAS COST.
RIGHT. AND WE DID ASK THE CONTRACTORS TO GIVE US THEIR THEIR BEST PRICE AND THEY DID.
OH, ELIZABETH, YOU MIGHT BE ON ZOOM NOW.
SO I'M GOING TO, IF YOU CAN TRY TO.
CAN YOU SEE IF THEY'RE MUTED? SO I DON'T WANT TO HANG UP ON HER, IF YOU'LL LOG BACK ON TO ZOOM, THAT MIGHT BE IF YOU'RE IF YOU AREN'T ON IT CURRENTLY, WE'RE FINALLY.
I MEAN, ACTUALLY, I THINK I HAD YOU ON, OK? OH, GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
OH, AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO HEAR KERRY NOW IF THAT'S THE CASE SO THAT SHE CAN CHIME IN FROM THE CONTRACTORS POINT OF VIEW.
BUT WE DID ASK THEM TO PROVIDE US THE BEST COST ESTIMATE AND COME DOWN AT ALL IF THEY COULD. THEY DID NOT ADD ON ANY ADDITIONAL FEES FROM THEIR SUBCONTRACTOR FOR THIS ELEMENT.
AND SO WHILE I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT OF VIEW, HAVING RECENTLY BUILT A HOUSE, I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE ADDED COSTS AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT IF YOU WANT TO UPGRADE OR IF YOU'RE USING DIFFERENT MATERIALS.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, THE PROPOSED MATERIALS THAT THEY HAD INITIALLY ATTEMPTED TO USE METHODS, TWO DIFFERENT METHODS THAT THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION WOULD WORK BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS IN THE DESIGN PACKAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS DID NOT WORK.
AND SO THE COST IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTUAL MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT THAT IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO PERFORM THIS METHOD.
HE FELT LIKE DE-WATERING WOULDN'T WORK BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH.
I DID ASK ABOUT DE-WATERING ELIZABETH OR KERRY, DID YOU GUYS WANT TO SPEAK TO THOSE? KERRY DID YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT? KYLE, DO YOU STILL SEE HER? I'LL GO, I'LL GO AHEAD. MAYBE I NEED TO PROMOTE TO PANELISTS [INAUDIBLE].
SO WE ASKED THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND THEY DID.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF THE PIERS AND ALSO THE THE SIZE OF THE AREA.
KEEP IN MIND, THERE'S THIRTY NINE I'M SORRY, THIRTY EIGHTY PIERS GOING INTO THIS AREA.
FOR THAT REASON, IT WAS NOT A IT WASN'T A FEASIBLE OPTION.
OK, AND EVERYBODY BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE IT IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
OK. IS THAT? THOUGH THERE WAS A GEOTECH STUDY DONE.
AND PROVIDED TO EVERYONE WHO BID THE PROJECT.
ALSO, NOT KNOWING WHAT'S IN THAT OR HOW THAT HOW I WOULD DEAL WITH THAT IF I WAS A CONTRACTOR, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GO DOWN TWENTY EIGHT FEET EITHER.
IT WAS DRILLED IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED ON THAT STUDY THAN WHAT WE'RE FINDING NOW.
MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME FACTORS INVOLVED.
I KNOW I HAD TO DO A STUDY FOR MY HOUSE, BUT MY HOUSE DIDN'T GO DOWN TWENTY EIGHT FEET.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I GUESS WHERE I'M AT IS IS IT SEEMS LIKE THE INFORMATION IF IF A APPROPRIATE GEOTECH STUDY WAS DONE.
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IT SHOULD HAVE GONE DOWN TO EIGHT FEET, SO THE QUESTION IS, DID IT GO TWENTY EIGHT FEET? AND DID THEY FIND THE SAME THINGS THEY'RE FINDING NOW? IT WENT THIRTY FEET DEEP, AND THEY ARE THEIR FINDINGS ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THAT REPORT. WE DID ONE BORING WHERE THE BUILDING OR [INAUDIBLE] SITTING AT THIRTY FOOT DEPTH. OK.WAS IT WAS IT THE SAME DIAMETER ELIZABETH, JUST BECAUSE.
NO, NO, THE BORINGS THEY DO ARE LIKE A FOUR INCH BORING OR SOMETHING.
I CAN'T I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE DIAMETER IS, BUT IT'S PRETTY SMALL.
EASILY COVERED UP. SO, SO WOULD THAT BE.
GENERALLY, IT'S ENOUGH, I MEAN, I WILL TELL YOU IN SEVENTEEN YEARS, I'VE NEVER RUN ACROSS THIS PROBLEM WHERE THE GEOTECH REPORT DIDN'T DIDN'T WORK FOR FOR THEM INSTALLING THE PIERS.
SO YOU DO OUR WATER TABLE RISES SINCE THEY MAY HAVE DRILLED IT DURING THE DRY TIME.
THEN THE WATER CAME UP. A NUMBER OF FACTORS WE FIND WE MAY HAVE A WET TRENCH OR A DRY TRENCH SO SO DOES THE THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, IF WE DON'T FOLLOW WHAT IS IN OUR AGREEMENT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THEIR ENGINEER AND THEIR SLAB.
THEN WE LOSE ANY KIND OF FAILURE OF THE SLAB OR ANYTHING WE WE SORT OF WE'RE NOT GOING BY THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE TAKING ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IF THERE'S ANY ISSUE IN IT.
IF IF WE FOLLOW THEIR GUIDELINES AND THEIR ENGINEERS REQUIREMENT, THEN THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT FOUNDATION OF THE PAVILION TO BE THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, WE COME UP AND WE GET ANOTHER ENGINEER, THE OTHER ENGINEER SAYS, YOU NEED TO GO DOWN TEN FOOT, YOU'RE FINE OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE GOING AGAINST THAT CONTRACTOR'S RECOMMENDATION IS ENGINEER'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH MEANS WE THEN TAKE ON THE LIABILITY.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AND WE DON'T DO THAT.
AND ALSO IS IT'S THE COST OF THIS, THIS EXTRA COST, IS IT ALL MATERIALS OR METHOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE MATERIALS AND METHOD.
IT'S LIKE IF IT'S THE MATERIALS, THEN HEY, OK, MAYBE SOMETHING THAT ONE SIDE TAKES CARE OF. IF IT'S THE METHOD, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WE CAN DETERMINE WHICH WAY IT HAS TO BE DONE.
SO I THINK THE METHOD AND THE MATERIAL COULD BE BROKEN OUT AS OPPOSED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, ALTOGETHER. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
AND, ELIZABETH, YOU MAY WANT TO OR KERRY.
ALSO, I THINK WE HEARD YOU COME IN AS WELL.
KERRY, YOU MIGHT IT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO SPEAK TO THIS.
BUT DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION ABOUT THE METHOD VERSUS MATERIAL COSTS? I CAN'T SAY WHEN WE ASK FOR THE ELEVEN PILINGS TO BE REDUCED, IT ONLY WENT FROM TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND TO TWO EIGHTY NINE.
SO TO ME, THAT TELLS ME IT'S NOT MATERIALS, IT IS THE METHOD THAT IS WHAT IS SO EXPENSIVE. AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE MACHINERY.
BUT I'LL LET KERRY TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AWESOME, KERRY IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING.
[INAUDIBLE] I'M ALSO WITH DL MEACHAM.
YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. IT IS VERY MUCH SO THE METHOD AND THE MACHINERY NEEDED TO PUSH THE CASINGS IN SO THAT WE CAN DRILL THEM OUT AND POUR THE CONCRETE.
SO YOUR MAJORITY OF YOUR COST IS GETTING ONE OF THE VIBRA RIGS ON SITE.
AS ELIZABETH MENTIONED, THERE'S ONLY THREE IN THIS AREA, SO THEY'RE HARD TO COME BY AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEIR COST IS TO TO GET THEM ON SITE.
THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING MOST OF THIS CHANGE ORDER.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A CRANE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO TO PULL THEM OUT WHEN YOU'RE DONE, CORRECT? YEAH.
[INAUDIBLE], YOU WOULD STILL ADD MORE TIME THAN A SLURRY DRILL, BUT THIS IS ADDING EVEN MORE TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE EXTRA CAREFUL PULLING IT OUT TO NOT DAMAGE THE PIER.
SO IT'S JUST IT IS A MUCH MORE INTENSE, LABOR LABOR INTENSIVE METHOD.
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SO MY QUESTION AND I AM NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I'M A VERY ASTUTE ACCOUNTANT.SO WHEN YOU DESIGNED IT WITH THE GEOTECH PLAN, YOU NEVER FORESAW THAT YOU WOULD NEED THIS METHOD.
THAT'S CORRECT. AND WHY WOULD THAT BE IN THE GEOTECH REPORT, IT STATES [INAUDIBLE] PIERS OR TEMP CASING MIGHT BE NEEDED.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID THE PROJECT OFF OF.
AND I'M SORRY, THEY'VE JUST TURNED YOU UP, COULD YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? VOLUMES UP NOW? OK. SAY IT ONE MORE TIME.
IT RECOMMENDS THAT WE USE FERRY DRILL PIERS, BUT ALSO RECOMMENDS THAT A TEMP CASE PIER MIGHT BE NEEDED. BUT THIS ISN'T YOUR TYPICAL TEMP CASE PIER.
WE TRIED DOING THAT, AND THAT EVEN DID NOT WORK.
SO WE WOULD WE WOULD WE DID THIS JOB BASED ON THAT INFORMATION BASED ON WHAT THE ENGINEERS HAD CALCULATED IN THERE WHEN THEY DID THE GEOTECH REPORT THAT ONE OF THOSE TWO METHODS WOULD HAVE WORKED.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE DATA THEY HAD TO WORK FROM.
RATHER THAN DOING IT THE STANDARD WAY WHERE WE DRILL.
OKAY. I'VE GOT A FEELING THE CITY HAS PROBABLY IT'S SEWER, WATER OR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT.
AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT, IT'S A PRETTY HIGH.
YEAH. AND I THINK THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH AND JUST THE SHEER NUMBER.
BUT THEN AGAIN, THE METHODOLOGY, I MEAN FOR TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO FAIL.
MACHINE, IT DROPS IT DOWN AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PULL IT OUT.
RIGHT? A LOT OF FRICTION WITH THAT SANDY SOIL HOLDING IT IN.
SO YOU MAY LOSE SOME OF THOSE CASINGS, BUT.
SO I GUESS DOWN FOR THIS BOARD, AND I SEE YOU.
WELL, ANY ANY EXTRA HOURS OR MAN HOURS OF WORK OR TIME OR LABOR TAKES.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SEEMED LIKE WHOEVER DOES THE WORK COULD JUST FACTOR IN HAVE TO PUT MORE TIME IN AS FAR AS THE MACHINERY AND SUCH THAT HAS TO BE PAID.
THOSE ARE HARD NUMBERS AND HARD STUFF WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
YEAH, BUT FOR NUMBERS AS FAR AS LIKE LABOR AND IF IT'S THEIR CREW THAT'S DOING IT, YOU WOULD FIGURE THAT SHOULDN'T BE PASSED ON TO US.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT.
MAKE SENSE, SO IS MOST OF THIS COST THE ACTUAL COST OF THE EXTRA THE VERY SPECIALIZED MACHINERY OR HOW DOES DO WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE COST IS? YES, IT IS THE MACHINERY.
SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE PAYING FOR IS THE EXTRA MACHINERY.
NO, THERE'S ADDITIONAL LABOR AND MATERIALS FOR THIS AS WELL.
THAT NEED TO BE PUSHED DOWN, DRIVEN DOWN TWENTY FEET, JUST SO THAT'S KIND OF CLEAR WITH YOU GUYS WHEN WE PRICE THIS OR WHEN KEYSTONE PRICE IS.
WE ANTICIPATED USING TEN CASINGS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU PUSHED THE CASING DOWN POUR YOUR CONCRETE AND THE HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE IS STILL GREAT ON THE CASING AND YOU CAN'T PULL IT OUT WITHOUT DAMAGING THE PIER, THEY WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE THE CASING BEHIND.
SO WE ANTICIPATE HAVING 10 CASINGS IN CASE THAT IS THE SCENARIO.
THERE'S MACHINES, THERE'S LABOR, THERE'S MATERIAL.
THERE'S EVERYTHING INCLUDED IN THIS SCOPE OF WORK IS INCLUDED IN THIS CHAIN PROPOSAL.
AND ONE MORE THING, MEGAN, ON THE TESTING, WE.
WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WOULD HAVE CONCRETE TESTING OR WE JUST THAT WAS SOMETHING WE EXPECTED.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I EXPECTED WAS INCLUDED IN THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS AND WAS NOT.
ARE THESE THE ONLY PILINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TO DO THIS FOR OR IS OUR OTHER PAVILION GOING TO NEED THE SAME BY THE TIME WE GET TO THAT OR ARE WE GOING TO FIND OUT THAT WE HAVE THE SAME SITUATION, IN WHICH CASE SHOULD WE JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT ALL
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WHILE WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT HERE? SO I THINK THIS IS THE ONLY AREA WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS AND WHEN THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT THERE. I THINK THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS ALL DONE IN ONE DAY.IS THAT CORRECT? THIS IS THE ONLY AREA THAT HAS THE CONCRETE, PIERS.
YES. THE REST OF THEM WILL BE WOODEN PIERS THAT ARE DRIVEN.
NOW, THE WOOD PAIRS, WE HAD THAT TOUCH ON THAT A WHILE AGO, THERE WAS AN OPTION FOR WOODEN OR CONCRETE,, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT, AND THOSE ELEVEN WOODEN ONES ARE FOR THE STAIRCASE WILL BE IN THE CONCRETE, BUT AT THE CONTRACTOR'S EXPENSE.
AND SO TANNER CLARIFIED THAT IF A CASING IS STUCK ON ONE OF THOSE PIERS, WILL THAT ALSO BE AT YOUR EXPENSE.
YES. OK. AND THE, WHAT'S HOLDING UP THE DECK AT THE KAYAK LAUNCH, THOSE ARE WOODEN.
YOU KNOW, THE SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY CAN'T PROCEED WITH ANY OF THE GRADING FOR ANY OF THAT UNTIL THIS ITEM IS ADDRESSED, THIS IS HOLDING UP PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE SITE . ASKING THOSE PIERS I SEE ON THE UNDER THE THE DECK, OH, THAT'LL BE WOODEN.
OH YES. YEAH, THOSE WILL BE WOODEN.
SO I GUESS IF THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF US IS.
YOU WANT TO KNOW. DO YOU NEED US TO APPROVE USE OF THE CONTINGENCY TOWARD THIS EXPENDITURE [INAUDIBLE]? NO, WE DON'T NEED APPROVAL FOR CONTINGENCY.
WE WOULD UTILIZE THE PROJECT CONTINGENCY WAS ALREADY APPROVED, SO THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR QUESTION OUR QUESTION IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THE DEFICIT AND TO STAFF HAVE PRESENTED IN YOUR AGENDA.
SUMMARY SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHICH WE ALSO PLAN TO TAKE TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE 8TH.
AND SO WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO ABLC BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE CONTRIBUTING A MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS FOR THIS PARK.
THIS IS ONE OF YOUR PARK PROJECTS.
AND SO WE ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS COMING TO ABLC FOR THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
OK, SO JUST TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GETTING LOTS OF GOOD INFORMATION HERE, SO.
THE TOTAL THAT WE'RE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS THE TWO FORTY FIVE OR SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT? SIXTY FOUR, SIXTY FOUR, TWO SIXTY FOUR.
BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE THE THE CONTINGENCY IS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY.
AND SO IN THE REVISED QUOTE IS ONE EIGHTY NINE.
SO WE'D HAVE THIRTY NINE FOR THE PAVILION AND FOR [INAUDIBLE], ABOUT TWENTY FIVE.
SO SO THAT'S WHY, YES, TRYING TO GET ALL MY NUMBERS STRAIGHT.
SO SO IT MOVED FROM THE TWO FORTY FIVE TO ONE EIGHTY NINE.
LET ME SEE HERE THE BOTTOM OF THE THIRD PARAGRAPH WHAT IT SAYS LATE.
LASTLY, THE PRICE OF THE ARGUING IS COMING IN AT TWO FORTY FIVE.
SO, OH, NO, THAT THAT WAS ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT WAS THE SECOND OPTION, WHICH IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
SO THE PROPOSED OPTION WAS ORIGINALLY TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND HAS BEEN REDUCED TO ONE EIGHTY NINE. OK.
OK, WHICH THEN LEAVES THE AFTER THE CONTINGENCY AN ADDITIONAL 39000 TO ACCOMPLISH THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY FOR GETTING THESE PIERS IN CORRECTLY.
CORRECT, AND THEN WE ALSO NEED TO DEAL WITH THE MATERIAL TESTING.
WE HAVE FOR OUR PURPOSES, NOT WE'VE ALL AGREED AFTER THE BUDGET GOT PASSED.
BEFORE WE SAW IT, $400000, IT WAS GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE TO ACCOMPLISH ANOTHER GOAL.
WE WANT LAKESIDE TO BE A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
AND SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE TAKE OUT OF OUR AVAILABLE FUNDS.
THE THIRTY NINE THOUSAND THAT REMAINS THE BALANCE AFTER THE CONTINGENCY, PLUS THE TESTING OF AROUND TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF THAT THAT COST OUT OF OUR FUNDS.
HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO HAVE THE ABLC TO PROVIDE THOSE NEEDED FUNDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
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AYE. THANK YOU.JUST FOR CLARITY, THE [INAUDIBLE] TESTING IS THAT THIS FIGURE, WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE TOTAL FIGURE OR IS IT JUST WHAT [INAUDIBLE]? NO, THIS IS THEIR ESTIMATE FOR FULL TESTING.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UNEXPECTED THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO TEST OR RETEST BEYOND WHAT THEY PROVIDED IN THE PROPOSAL.
WE WOULD, HOPEFULLY IT'S AT A MUCH REDUCED AMOUNT AND WE CAN TRY TO MANAGE THAT WITHIN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK MEGAN, IF I COULD JUST ADD, IF ANYTHING, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TESTING LAB, IF ANYTHING FAILS TO PASS THE TEST, THEN IT'S ON THE CONTRACTOR TO CORRECT IT AND TO PAY FOR ANY RETESTING.
THANK YOU, ELIZABETH ITEM NUMBER FIVE [INAUDIBLE] RECREATION CENTER OPERATIONS AND REVENUE GENERATION.
[5. Discussion and possible action on Angleton Recreation Center operations and revenue generation.]
YES. SO THIS IS OUR MOST LENGTHY ITEM FOR THIS EVENING.SO WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE PACKET UP HERE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SUMMARY THAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO SEE THE ASSOCIATED GRAPHS WITH.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED BACK AT THE DECEMBER MEETING.
WE STAFF ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE SOME OPERATION AND AND REVENUE ISSUES, THANKS CECIL.
THANK YOU. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT SINCE OUR LAST MEETING TO TRY TO IDENTIFY SOME OF OUR RECREATION DIVISION DEFICIENCIES AS IT RELATES TO THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND OVERALL OPERATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE RECREATION DIVISION, WHICH REALLY CONSTITUTES SEVERAL DIFFERENT GROUPS.
SO SOMETIMES WHEN YOU THINK OF THE RECREATION DIVISION, YOU IMMEDIATELY THINK OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, BUT IT IS MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT HOW WE PLAN TO OPERATE MOVING FORWARD.
SO WE DID SEVERAL DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS, COLLECTED DIFFERENT DATA TO COME UP WITH SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE STARTED WITH A MARKET COMPARISON BACKGROUND.
SO WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT OPERATED THE SAME WAY AS THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.
YOU CAN SEE, WELL, THIS IS SORRY FOR THE SIZE OF THE FONT.
WE DO HAVE A GRAPH IN YOUR PACKET TRYING TO FIT ALL THE INFORMATION ON ONE PAGE WITH DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT ARE IN ANGLETON AND OR SURROUNDING ANGLETON.
WE LOOKED AT THE YEAR THAT THEY BEGAN OR OPENED THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION, DAILY RATES, MEMBERSHIP AND OTHER SERVICES THAT THEY OFFERED.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR PACKET SOME DETAILED INFORMATION.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OVER EACH OF THESE THINGS, BUT WE JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE THAT ACCESSIBLE. WE DID NOTE THAT SOME OF THE KEY POINTS HERE IS THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER IS ONE OF THE ONLY FACILITIES THAT IS OPEN ON SUNDAYS.
UNLIKE MOST FACILITIES, THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER OFTEN OFFERS FACILITY USAGE UNTIL 9:00 P.M. ON SATURDAY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 24 HOUR FITNESS GYMS OR GYMS LIKE F4 FIVE THAT HAVE SCHEDULED CLASSES OUTSIDE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL TIMES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER IS PRICED COMPETITIVELY IN COMPARISON TO LOCAL OFFERINGS AND HAS SEVERAL DAILY ADMISSION RATES AVAILABLE, AND THEY ARE ALSO THE ONLY FACILITY THAT OFFERS PRIVATE POOL PARTY RENTALS.
ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO NOTE IS THAT THREE FACILITIES ASSESSED WERE OPENED PRIOR TO THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, AND WE HAD SEVEN FACILITIES OPEN AFTER THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. WE MENTIONED THAT ONLY BECAUSE AT THE POINT WHERE THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER OPENED ITS DOORS, WE'VE PROGRESSIVELY ARE COMPETING WITH OTHER SERVICES AND OFFERINGS AROUND TOWN OR OTHER LOCAL COMPETITORS THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYES ON.
WE ALSO SENT OUT OR PUBLISHED A ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER SURVEY THAT WAS PUBLISHED
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JANUARY 31ST THROUGH FEBRUARY 14TH, AND WE HAD ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO PEOPLE RESPOND TO THE SURVEY. SO IN YOUR PACKET, WE HAVE SOME SURVEY RESULTS.AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL.
YOU HAVE A SUMMARIZED VERSION IN YOUR PACKET, BUT SOME THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU ARE THE TOP THREE MEMBERSHIPS THAT ARE USED ARE FAMILY, INDIVIDUAL SILVER SNEAKERS AND SILVER AND FIT MEMBERSHIPS.
FORTY FIVE PERCENT OF RESPONDENTS VISIT TO THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER ON OCCASION, WHILE ABOUT 40 PERCENT OF RESPONDENTS VISIT MORE OFTEN A WEEK.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT IS DRASTIC.
SO YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER NOT COMING FREQUENTLY AT ALL OR ARE COMING VERY FREQUENTLY. YOU ALSO HAVE THE NEXT SEVERAL QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSED LATER AND MORE OF JUST DATA THAT WE'VE COLLECTED.
SO SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS OF WHY PEOPLE AREN'T COMING TO THE FACILITY.
HOURS OF OPERATION ARE ALSO DISCUSSED LATER IN THIS SUMMER IN OUR ASSESSMENT.
AND ANOTHER THING THAT I WILL NOTE AND IS DISPLAYED IN THE DATA LATER IS THAT OUR DAY PASS REVENUE INCREASES AND OUR ATTENDANCE INCREASES ON THE WEEKEND.
BUT OUR MEMBERSHIPS, MAINLY THOSE PEOPLE ARE CHECKING IN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
SO YOU'VE GOT KIND OF A MIX OF WHO'S ATTENDING WHEN.
SOME OTHER THINGS TO NOTE ARE THE TOP FIVE FACILITY FEATURES ARE THE FITNESS CENTER, CARDIO WEIGHT ROOM AREA, LAP SWIMMING, HOT TUB, AQUATIC PLAY AREA, WATER SLIDE AND LOCKER ROOMS. THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT THOSE ARE THE HIGHEST USED AMENITIES, AND LATER ON YOU'LL SEE SUMMARIZED THAT THOSE ARE WHERE SOME OF OUR FACILITY MAINTENANCE DEFICIENCIES ARE. AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT WHEN WE WORK ON OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP AND BUDGETING FOR RENOVATIONS AND REPAIRS SO THAT WE ENSURE THAT WE ARE OFFERING QUALITY SERVICES.
THE OTHER THINGS TO NOTE WITH THE SURVEY ARE THAT WE HAVE ABOUT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF RESPONDENTS WHO PARTICIPATE IN OUR GROUP X PROGRAMS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT WERE OR WAS HOW FREQUENTLY ARE A GROUP X PROGRAMS UTILIZE IS A SERVICE THAT PEOPLE APPRECIATE TO BE INCLUDED IN THEIR MEMBERSHIP? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY PAY FOR OUTSIDE OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP? BECAUSE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DRAW SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS SERVICING PEOPLE BEING A MEMBER SERVICE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GROUP X? SO THAT'S LIKE YOUR WATER AEROBICS OR A GROUP EXERCISE? X. YES, I'M SORRY.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. [INAUDIBLE] OK.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. Y'ALL, STOP ME AT ANY POINT.
QUESTION 12, RESPONDENTS WERE WHAT THEY LIKE MOST ABOUT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, OR THAT THEY NOTED FRIENDLY STAFF AND A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE OFFERED.
IN QUESTION 13, IT REALLY, AGAIN, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED. AND THIS IS JUST WHILE THERE IS A NUMBER OF THINGS LISTED THERE.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAME, BECAME VERY APPARENT FOR STAFF OVER AND OVER IN THIS SURVEY WERE A CLEANER LOCKER ROOM AND RESTROOM FACILITIES.
POOL AND GYM AREA FANS IN THE WORKOUT AREA, EXTENDED POOL HOURS, LARGER SPACE FOR CARDIO EQUIPMENT, INCREASE WEIGHT ROOM AREA WITH ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT, WATER CLASSES, CHILD CARE OPPORTUNITIES, ESPECIALLY DURING THOSE PEAK HOURS WHEN FACILITIES ARE BEING USED BY OUR MEMBERSHIP, REPLACEMENT OF OLDER EQUIPMENT AND JUST OVERALL FACILITY CONDITIONS.
SO WHAT WE TOOK FROM SOME OF THIS CONTENT WAS THE QUALITY OF THE FACILITY, THE TYPES OF FACILITY AMENITIES.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT ABOUT ADDITIONAL MEMBER SERVICES THAT PEOPLE ARE REQUESTING.
SO WE'RE NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU'RE REALLY LACKING THIS SERVICE.
WE DON'T SEE IT AT ALL. WE WANT THIS SERVICE.
WE DID HAVE SOME THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THERE THAT ARE LISTED, BUT IF WE WERE TO DO JUST A WORD CHART, SOME OF THE ONES THAT I JUST MENTIONED ARE WHAT WE SAW OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND YOU CAN SEE THE FULL RESULTS YOU CAN READ THROUGH THEM YOURSELF TO GET A BETTER HANDLE ON ON WHAT PEOPLE WERE REALLY FOCUSING ON.
AND SOME THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO SHARE JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THE PROMOTION OF AUTO RENEWING MEMBERSHIPS, WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT CLEANER SHOWERS AND RESTROOM FACILITIES, A SAFE, ENJOYABLE PLACE FOR SENIORS, ADDITIONAL GROUP EXERCISE CLASSES AND
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MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY, IMPLEMENTATION OF CHILD CARE AND SO ON.SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE CONTENT AND INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THOSE RESPONDENTS. SO THAT HAS KIND OF HELPED GUIDE SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE COLLECTED.
AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO KYLE.
HE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE MINUTIA OF THE DATA.
WE WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO BE INTERACTING.
YOU KNOW, WHAT I SAW ON THAT WAS LIKE THE SENIORS WEREN'T THERE.
THE SENIORS WANT THEIR OWN ROOM, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE A SENIORS CLUB RIGHT? KYLE, YOU HAVE BACKGROUND WITH A FOR PROFIT.
SO, NO, I WORKED FOR A LONG TIME WITH THE YMCA, SO IT IS A NONPROFIT, BUT THERE IS A HEAVY REVENUE FOCUS IN MEMBERSHIP GENERATION AND THINGS BECAUSE.
20 PERCENT. NO, WE WERE [INAUDIBLE] INSTEAD OF.
FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, WE ARE WE ARE RECOVERING LESS THAN WHAT WE HAD HOPED FOR, WHICH WAS ENDING UP AT EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND IN FLEX OF US.
SO IT WAS NOT GOOD. AND WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION TOO TO KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL BECAUSE SO ONE THING AND I'LL JUMP AHEAD JUST A LITTLE BIT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA. YOU'LL SEE IN SOME FUTURE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT.
WE ARE VERY, VERY SEASONALLY BASED FACILITY AND THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUSINESS TAKES PLACE BETWEEN THE MONTHS OF MAY AND SEPTEMBER.
SO WHILE WE'RE BEHIND REVENUE RIGHT NOW, THE LION'S SHARE OF OUR REVENUE TAKES PLACE BETWEEN MAY AND SEPTEMBER. SO WE'LL WE SHOULD SEE A SPIKE THAT TAKES PLACE THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER MONTHS DURING SUMMER USAGE AND THEN A REDUCTION COMING BACK INTO THE FALL.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TRAILING BEHIND RIGHT NOW, THAT COMES DOWN TO DO WITH MORE REVENUE TIMING WHERE WHEN WE SPLIT OUR QUARTERS BY TWENTY FIVE PERCENT, THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW THE REVENUE IS ACTUALLY FLOWING.
SO IT WOULD BE NATURAL IF WE TRACK THIS IN PREVIOUS YEARS REALLY CLOSE.
WE WERE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT BEHIND REVENUE AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR AND THEN GO, YEAH, IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE ENTIRE YEAR AND WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT, WE'LL GET INTO HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO. SO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WERE LIKE YOU USE IT WHEN IT'S WARM, MIGHT USE IT WHEN IT'S.. FOR SURE..
SO YEAH, WE'LL JUMP INTO A LITTLE BIT.
SO THE THINGS I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT HERE, SO MEMBERSHIP STRUCTURE AND OFFERINGS.
SO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO NOTICE IS LOOKING AT IN OUR HONESTLY, OUR LARGEST OPPORTUNITY FOR REVENUE IS GOING TO BE MEMBERSHIP AND DAY PASS USAGE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF REVENUE IS GOING TO BE GENERATED.
THE MAJORITY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPANDED REVENUE EXIST.
AND SO GOING THROUGH JUST LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT MEMBERSHIP OFFERINGS AND LOOKING AT THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS OF DATA AND KIND OF THE TRENDS RELATED TO REVENUE GENERATION FROM MEMBERSHIP, DAY PASS USAGE OR OTHER FACILITY SERVICES RELATED TO THE RECREATION CENTER, WE HAVE SEEN A NATURAL DIP.
MOST OF THAT IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE OF COVID RELATED THINGS.
WE'RE ON THE RECOVERY FROM THAT.
AND SO WE HAVE SEEN SOME RECOVERY.
BUT ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS WE'VE SEEN WHEN LOOKING AT THIS IS OUR MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP CATEGORY. SO WE REALLY HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES, AND OUR MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP CATEGORY IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCONTINUED IN 2019.
MORE AS A RESULT OF A SOFTWARE CHANGE WAS THE ABILITY TO DO AN AUTOMATIC DRAFT.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NOT HAVING THE AUTOMATIC DRAFT FROM A MONTH TO MONTH STANDPOINT AND JUST PUTTING YOURSELF IN THOSE SHOES IS HOW FREQUENTLY DOES EVERYBODY PAY THEIR BILLS ON TIME EVERY TIME AND A REOCCURRING BASIS ON THE MONTH? AND ESPECIALLY IF THAT IS NOT GENERATING A NEW BALANCE? SO THE WAY OUR MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP WORKS RIGHT NOW IS YOU JOIN 30 DAYS LATER, YOU EXPIRE AND YOU DON'T START BACK UP UNTIL YOU JOIN AGAIN.
SO IN RUNNING THAT ANALYSIS SPECIFICALLY ON THE MONTHLY MEMBERSHIPS, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS IN HERE.
WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 889 DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS, AND SO THIS IS FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2021, BECAUSE OF COVID, WE DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD FISCAL YEAR BEFORE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD FISCAL YEAR SO FAR.
SO WE'RE LOOKING IN CALENDAR YEAR 2021.
SO EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINE TOTAL HOUSEHOLDS HAD PARTICIPATED IN THE MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THAT YEAR.
AND SO LOOKING AT THAT AND THEN LOOKING OUR AVERAGE KIND OF CARRY THAT WE HOW MANY MEMBERSHIPS WE CARRY IN MONTHLY CATEGORIES OVER THE YEAR ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS, WE CARRY ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THREE.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU START TO SEE OUR RETENTION RATE IF WE HAVE EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINE HOUSEHOLDS, BUT ONLY CARRYING ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THREE, THEN AT SOME POINT DURING THAT TIME, WE'VE NOT RETAINED THOSE OTHER HOUSEHOLDS.
SO THEY'VE MOVED ON TO EITHER NOT UTILIZING THE FACILITY OR THEY'RE IN A BREAK BECAUSE OF NOT RENEWING AND THINGS.
AND SO THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE.
THAT'S PRETTY APPARENT OF WHERE WE ARE LOSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL NOT JUST REVENUE, BUT MEMBER ENGAGEMENT.
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SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT AS WELL WITH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MONTHLY MEMBERSHIPS OF MEMBER ENGAGEMENTS, IT'S NOT PURELY ABOUT REVENUE.REVENUE FOLLOWS THE SERVICE, BUT THE BETTER WE ARE CONNECTED WITH OUR MEMBERS, THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH THEM, THE FREQUENCY OF USE, THE BETTER WE'RE ABLE TO SERVE THEM OVER TIME AND THE MORE CONNECTED THEY'LL BE TO THE SERVICE AND THE MORE THEY'LL BENEFIT FROM US. SO WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REVENUE AND A LOT OF CASES, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT REVENUE AS A REFLECTION OF OVERALL SERVICE.
SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? YEAH, SURE, SURE.
SO WHAT IS THAT LIKE PERCENTAGE IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL POPULATION OF A TOWN LIKE LOOK LIKE TYPICALLY FOR A RECREATIONAL CENTER? SO WE'RE SAYING EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINE HOUSEHOLDS LIKE WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE, TYPICALLY FOR ANY RECREATION? SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A POPULATION OF JUST UNDER TWENTY THOUSAND, LIKE IN THE ANGLETON IMMEDIATE AREA AND THIS IS JUST THE MONTHLY MEMBERSHIPS, THIS ISN'T TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ANNUAL SEMIANNUAL THINGS LIKE THAT, OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ABOUT THIRTEEN HUNDRED TOTAL HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE SERVICING WITH MEMBERSHIP AT A GIVEN TIME OR OVER A GIVEN YEAR.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, YOU'RE WELL OVER FIVE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION, WHICH WOULD BE A PRETTY STRONG PENETRATION RATE FOR THE FOR THE OVERALL CITY.
PART OF THE BENEFIT IS THAT IS THERE'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMPETITION TO THE TYPES OF SERVICES WE OFFER, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPREAD OF THOSE PEOPLE, AND SO WE'RE KIND OF THE GO TO SHOP FOR THAT.
AND SO WITH SOME OF THESE SUGGESTIONS, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE POSITIONED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THOSE 1300 REALLY MORE HOUSEHOLDS THAN THAT AT THE BEST POSSIBLE LEVEL. SO SO THAT FIVE PERCENT IS REALLY STRONG RELATIVE.
YEAH, RELATIVE TO A POPULATION AT TWENTY THOUSAND.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A COMPARISON, WHEN I WORKED IN LEAGUE CITY, WHICH HAS A POPULATION OF 120 SOMETHING THOUSAND, THEY SERVICED ABOUT 3000 HOUSEHOLDS.
AND SO IF YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT, LOOK AT THE PENETRATION RATE OF 3000 TO 120 PLUS THOUSAND. WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL ON A HOUSEHOLD NUMBER AND THOSE ARE RAW FIGURES.
AND I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT MARKETS, DIFFERENT COMPETITION AND THINGS IN PLACE. BUT THAT WOULD BE MORE TYPICAL OF WHAT YOU'D SEE IN A KIND OF A SUBURBAN SETTING.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT IMMEDIATELY SUBURBAN, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, A CONTAINED CITY.
SO THAT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT.
YEAH, KNOW FOR SURE. I'M GLAD I HAD THAT EXAMPLE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BECAUSE YOU WERE PREPARED. WELL, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT JUST THAT, THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE RELATIVE. SO IT DOES MAKE MORE SENSE FOR SURE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE GETTING THERE.
SO ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING THINGS AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE TAIL IS AS FAR AS THE MEMBERSHIP USES OF SOME OF THE MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT ACROSS THE 2021 YEAR AND YOU LOOK AT THOSE EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINE HOUSEHOLDS, ON AVERAGE, THERE'S ONLY PARTICIPATING IN ABOUT TWO POINT THREE MONTHS OF MEMBERSHIP. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN ANNUAL CYCLE, IN MOST CASES, YOU WANT TO SEE PEOPLE AT LEAST A YEAR.
AND SO LESS THAN THREE MONTHS ON AVERAGE IS PRETTY LOW AS FAR AS ANNUAL ENGAGEMENT.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE OUR OPPORTUNITY EXIST.
THERE IS A RETENTION RATE IN THERE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW MANY MEMBERS WE'RE ACTUALLY RETAINING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
THIS ISN'T TRADITIONAL RETENTION, IT'S EIGHTEEN POINT THREE PERCENT.
TYPICALLY, YOU DO THAT OVER A 13 MONTH ROLLING BASIS TO SEE WHO'S MAINTAINED ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS OVER A 13 MONTH, 13 MONTH PERIOD SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC DATA AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE'VE STARTED COLLECTING THAT NOW THE BEST ESTIMATES BASED OFF HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS WE SERVICE IN THE YEAR AND HOW MUCH THEY PARTICIPATE IN MEMBERSHIP WITH THAT, AND IT'S ABOUT 18 PERCENT.
AND WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO WHAT THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE IS FOR OVERALL MEMBERSHIP OF BEING 60 TO 70 PERCENT AND 70 80 PERCENT BEING THE REALLY GOOD RAIN, OUR RETENTION RATE SPECIFICALLY IN THE MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP CATEGORY IS PRETTY LOW.
BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT JUST TO RELATIVIZE THAT OUR RETENTION RATE OVER A 12 MONTH PERIOD, OUR ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP IS GOING A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO IT'S GOING TO PULL THAT AVERAGE UP.
BUT FOR MEASUREMENT PURPOSES, THE EIGHTEEN POINT THREE PERCENT GIVES US A BASELINE TO LOOK AT FUTURE TO SEE IF WE'RE IMPROVING THAT, THAT RETENTION RATE SO.
SO WITH THAT, WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE AND THESE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE JUST SNAPSHOTS OF DATA WE'VE DONE IS THERE'S TWO THINGS ON THE BOTTOM YOU'LL SEE IT'S A MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP. WE JUST CALL IT LEAKAGE.
THERE'S OTHER WAYS OF LOOKING AT CHURN RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE FAR RIGHT AND THIS IS BASED OFF THE EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE'S TRANSACTIONS.
IN TWO THOUSAND, SORRY, IN 2021, SORRY, THIS ISN'T THE FULL YEAR WITH THIS IS THROUGH NOVEMBER, SO THERE'S A FEW TRANSACTIONS MISSING.
WHEN I RAN THIS EVENT, INITIAL DATA, THE FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY HOUR TRANSACTIONS THAT TOOK PLACE SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY NINE WERE TRANSACTIONS THAT COULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT IF YOU WERE A MEMBER IN JANUARY AND YOU WERE AND YOU ARE A MEMBER FOR, AND YOU'RE ALSO A MEMBER IN JUNE, HOW MANY TRANSACTIONS COULD YOU HAD? YOU COULD HAVE HAD SIX, HOW MANY DID YOU ACTUALLY HAVE? AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT DIFFERENCE.
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AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, WHAT WE SAW IS ABOUT EIGHTY SEVEN PERCENT OF OUR POTENTIAL IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING PEOPLE PAY TO WHAT OUR POTENTIAL WAS REVENUE EARNED IN THAT CATEGORY VERSUS THE POTENTIAL REVENUE IN THAT CATEGORY.SO WE HAVE A REVENUE NOT REALLY LOSS, BUT IT'S JUST REVENUE NOT RECEIVED THAT IF WE RETAINED THOSE PEOPLE IN A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS LIKE INTENDED WITH THE MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP, WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY SEE ABOUT A TWENTY THREE PERCENT INCREASE IN AND THAT JUST FROM A RETENTION STANDPOINT, NOW A RETENTION RATE OF ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR IS NOT NECESSARILY LIKELY, BUT THAT'S JUST A BASED OFF POTENTIAL DRAFTS THAT WE MISSED.
THE TOP ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, SO THIS IS LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS WE AVERAGE. SO WE USE THAT ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THREE NUMBERS AND AVERAGE WITH THE AVERAGE COST IS WHAT THAT GENERATES BASED OFF THE AVERAGE MEMBERSHIP RATE.
AND SO IF WE RAN THAT OUT AND YOU'LL SEE THE BOTTOM ONE IN JANUARY IS 228.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY SITTING AT IN REAL TIME IN JANUARY WHEN WE RAN THIS, IT'S A PROJECTION OF SEVENTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO DOLLARS JUST IN MONTHLY MEMBERSHIPS OVER THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR AND GOING CALENDAR YEAR AGAIN.
JUST FOR COMPARISON, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS CALENDAR YEAR, OUR ACTUAL WAS SIXTY NINE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN APPLES TO APPLES, THAT COMPARISON IS PRETTY CLOSE TO ACTUAL AS FAR AS THE PROJECTION.
AND SO ULTIMATELY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RATE OF RETENTION.
AND IF WE RETAIN THESE MEMBERS THAT WE'RE LOSING BECAUSE OF POSSIBLY NOT RUNNING A DRAFT SYSTEM OR NOT RETAINING THEM ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS, WE RAN IT AS OK IF WE INCREASE OUR RATE OF RETENTION FROM 18 PERCENT TO 30 PERCENT OR 30 PERCENT TO 40 PERCENT.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE BOTTOM IN THE GREEN IS THE THE POTENTIAL REVENUE INCREASES BASED OFF OF WHAT OUR RETENTION RATE ENDS UP BEING.
SO THE BLUE IS HIGHLIGHTED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE 40 PERCENT DOES SEEM LIKE A REASONABLE TARGET, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY ACCOMPLISH JUST BY IMPLEMENTING THE THE DRAFT SYSTEM AGAIN WITHOUT ANY OTHER CHANGES.
IT'S FAIR TO SAY IT COULD BE A GREATER RETENTION RATE THAN THAT, BUT JUST TO BE REALISTIC AND NOT KNOWING WHAT WILL HAPPEN, KIND OF THE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES GETTING TO 40 PERCENT. SO JUST BY FIXING THAT, WE MAY SEE AN ADDITIONAL UP TO THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OF REVENUE GIVEN SIMILAR ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, NOTWITHSTANDING LIKE SOME OTHER CRAZY THINGS HAPPENING, LIKE COVID OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
SYSTEM. THERE WAS SOME INITIAL ISSUES THAT THEY RAN INTO, AND I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS OF SPECIFICALLY WHY OR WHAT THE ISSUES WERE, BUT SO DISCONTINUED THAT AND JUST WENT TO A MONTH TO MONTH SERVICE.
SO YOU START AND YOU END ON A 30 DAY BASIS.
AND JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU INFORMATION WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED HERE, WE HAVE MODELED THOSE GIRAFFE'S SYSTEMS IN THE SYSTEM NOW AND TESTED THEM AND HAVE TESTED THEM SUCCESSFULLY TO ACTUALLY TAKE MONEY OUT ON SCHEDULE AS INTENDED.
THERE WAS CONCERNS WITH DUPLICATE DRAFTS AND SOME OTHER ISSUES INITIALLY.
AND SO AS A CUSTOMER SERVICE THING, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TRANSITION SOFTWARE AND THEN CAUSE HEARTACHE TO PEOPLE'S POCKETBOOKS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE TIME NOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT SO.
YEAH. OH YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
WELL, YEAH, AND IT KEEPS US AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY WITHIN OUR SYSTEM.
SO ANY PROMOTION WE DO SPECIFICALLY TO MEMBERS OR ANY COMMUNICATION WE DO SPECIFICALLY TO MEMBERS, THEY'RE STILL WITHIN OUR SYSTEM OF MEMBERSHIP.
ONCE THEY FALL OFF, THEY FALL OUT OF THAT BUCKET OF COMMUNICATION.
SO WE HAVE LESS ENGAGEMENT AND LESS LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY'RE PARTICIPATING.
SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST A REVENUE, IT'S ALSO A QUALITY OF SERVICE AND ENGAGEMENT SIDE OF THINGS. I ALWAYS KIND OF SAY THE REVENUE IS WHAT FOLLOWS THE SERVICE, RIGHT? SO AND JUST AND AS A NOTE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE THE NUMBERS DON'T COMPLETELY MATCH UP IN THE BOTTOM, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE COMPLETE TERM OF TRANSACTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT SIXTY NINE THOUSAND AND THEN WHAT, TWENTY THREE THOUSAND.
SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN OVER LIKE A SIX MONTH PERIOD.
SO JUST SO BECAUSE THOSE DON'T MATCH UP, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TERMS. I'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO BACK TO THE FULL SPREADSHEET TO SEE WHAT THOSE WERE.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, YEAH, YEAH, THE ISSUES WITH THE AUTO DRAW HAVE BEEN ALREADY RESOLVED.
YEAH. SO I'VE TESTED IT A FEW DIFFERENT SETUPS JUST IN CASE ONE SETUP DIDN'T WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO DRAFT OR A PAYMENT PLAN WHERE YOU PRE PRE SCHEDULE PAYMENTS, BOTH OF THEM WORK SUCCESSFULLY.
IS THERE ANY LIKE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE IN IMPLEMENTING THOSE PIECES? SO, NO, AND SO THERE WILL BE OR THERE WILL BE NATURALLY, THE MORE DRAFTS WE DO, THE MORE CREDIT CARD EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE JUST FOR MERCHANT ACCOUNT THINGS AND LIKE THAT.
SO YOU MAY SEE ADDITIONAL CREDIT CARD FEES BECAUSE WE'RE DOING MORE VOLUME THAT'S GOING TO BE OFFSET WITH ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
IT'S USUALLY TWO TO THREE PERCENT PER TRANSACTION AT MOST KIND OF THING.
SO BASICALLY, WE'RE READY TO GO WHENEVER AGREED.
YEAH, YEAH. IT'D TAKE A LITTLE BIT.
WE'D HAVE TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF PROCEDURAL CHANGES AND WE'D HAVE TO SET THIS UP WITHIN OUR SYSTEM OFFICIALLY.
AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ALSO WOULD PLAY INTO THIS AS WELL.
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SO. BUT YEAH, AS FAR AS FUNCTIONALLY, WE'RE READY TO GO.WE WOULD JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO THEN BASICALLY GET IT SET UP IN THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR OUR OPERATIONS.
SO MOVING ON, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO PAGE 40, IT'S KIND OF WAY BACK THERE.
WHICH PAGE ARE WE ON NOW BEFORE I LOSE IT.
SOMEBODY REMEMBER THAT, SO 89, SO LET'S GO TO FORTY.
ALL RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL NOTICE, THIS IS A DIFFERENT PART OF THE PACKAGE.
SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT MEMBERSHIP CONFIGURATIONS OR PACKAGES.
IF YOU ADD THEM ALL UP AND NOT ALL OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY ON HERE, THERE'S 34 TOTAL DIFFERENT WAYS OF GETTING A MEMBERSHIP AT THE REC CENTER, NOT INCLUDING DAY PASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THIS REPRESENTS TWENTY EIGHT.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL OPTIONS BEYOND THAT.
THEY INCLUDE STAFF MEMBERSHIPS AND SOME OTHER SUBSIDIZED MEMBERSHIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WE SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND A LOT OF CUSTOMER CONFUSION THAT COULD BE ADDED BECAUSE SOMETIMES CUSTOMERS MAY NOT KNOW WHERE THEY WOULD FALL OR WHAT THE BEST SOLUTION IS.
AND IT'S ALSO FROM A SALES PERSPECTIVE, FROM A STAFF.
IT'S GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT TO PROMOTE THAT AND FIND THEM THE BEST OPTION THAT FITS WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND SO MANY DIFFERENT DISCOUNTS AND THINGS.
SO WHEN WE RAN THE ANALYSIS ON THIS, WHICH WAS THE 89.
SO THIS IS WHAT OUR ACTUAL USAGE AND ENROLLMENT RATE OF ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS OF MEMBERSHIP ARE.
SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S ONLY A FEW GREEN NUMBERS, AND SO THERE'S A MEMBERSHIP THAT ARE ACTUALLY FAIRLY ACTIVE.
THE TOP GREEN NUMBER IS THE FACILITY MEMBERSHIP, AND THAT'S MONTHLY OR SORRY.
OUR OUR FAMILY MEMBERSHIPS MAKE UP THIRTY ONE PERCENT OF OUR MEMBERSHIPS AND OUR MOST FREQUENTLY PURCHASED FAMILY MEMBERSHIP IS A MONTHLY FAMILY MEMBERSHIP.
SO GOING BACK TO THE NEED FOR MONTHLY ENGAGEMENT WITH FAMILIES WHILE IT'S OUR MOST SOLD, IT'S ALSO ONE OF OUR LOWEST RETAINED.
THEN YOU GO INTO OUR SENIOR MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THAT. SO WE HAVE OUR FAMILY, SENIORS, OUR INDIVIDUAL SENIORS, PLUS OUR SILVER SNEAKERS AND SILVER AND FIT MEMBERSHIPS.
THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT THIRTY SOMETHING PERCENT AS WELL.
SO YOU'LL SEE SILVER SNEAKERS IS SIXTEEN POINT ONE EIGHT, THEN SENIORS IS TEN POINT TWO EIGHT AND THEN SENIOR FAMILY IS EIGHT POINT FOUR ONE.
THAT'S REALLY THE PICTURE OF ALL OF OUR SENIORS.
AND THEN OUR NEXT IS OUR FAMILY AND CITY OF ANGLETON EMPLOYEE MEMBERSHIPS, WHICH MAKES UP ABOUT TWENTY THREE PERCENT OF OUR USAGE AND OUR TWENTY THREE PERCENT OF OUR ENROLLMENT AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, MOST OF THE MEMBERSHIPS WE'RE OFFERING AREN'T BEING SOLD AND THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE BEING SOLD IN HIGH VOLUME ARE MONTHLY OR ANNUAL.
SO USING THAT INFORMATION, LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN PURCHASING AND THEN FURTHER SIMPLIFYING IT IF WE GO TO PAGE FORTY ONE, I THINK IT IS. THIS IS MORE OF AN EXAMPLE OF A TARGET THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO LOOK AT FOR WHAT WOULD BE OFFERING.
SO THIS ISN'T A SPECIFIC THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE COULD GO WITH THIS, BUT THIS WOULD BE WHAT I FEEL WOULD BE THE MOST SIMPLIFIED VERSION IS WE WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT STYLES OF MEMBERSHIP. WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP IN A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP AND THAT'S IT. YOU'RE EITHER AN INDIVIDUAL OR YOUR FAMILY STILL HONORING MILITARY DISCOUNTS, STILL HONORING SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNTS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT INSTEAD OF OFFERING THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL CATEGORY, THAT IS JUST A BASICALLY A SUBSIDY THAT'S APPLIED TO YOUR MEMBERSHIP.
SO REGARDLESS OF YOUR AGE OR IF YOU'RE A VETERAN OR SERVICE PROVIDER, YOU STILL ARE AN INDIVIDUAL OR FAMILY AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ASSOCIATED DISCOUNT.
SO REALLY, YOU'RE ONLY CHOOSING FROM TWO OPTIONS AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO EITHER GO TO MONTHLY OR ANNUAL AND YOU PREPAY FOR THE YEAR.
AND SO THAT LIMITS IT DOWN FROM THIRTY FOUR TO FOUR.
PLUS, OUR SUBSIDIZED MEMBERSHIPS WITH SILVER SNEAKERS AND SILVER AND FIT, WHICH ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE OFFERED THE WAY THEY ARE BECAUSE IT'S A PART OF AN INSURANCE PARTNERSHIP AND IT'S VERY SIMILARLY STRUCTURED.
AND I BELIEVE WHEN YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING AT OPENING THE FACILITY, YOU REFERENCED LAKE JACKSON. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PRICING STRUCTURE OR PART OF THE REASON, I DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE.. YEAH, THE PERCEPTION THIS IS PRETTY COMMON ACROSS THE INDUSTRY AND ESPECIALLY IN PARKS AND RECREATION. SO THIS ISN'T A CRITIQUE OF PARKS AND RECREATION, BUT PARKS AND RECREATION, NOT IT'S NOT UNIVERSAL TO OFFER MEMBERSHIP FACILITIES.
AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE END UP RUNNING MEMBERSHIP FACILITIES WITHOUT AND THEY'RE STARTING
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FROM SCRATCH. AND SO NOT JUST IN PARKS RECREATION, BUT PEOPLE THAT OPEN UP THEIR OWN FACILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.IT'S THEY WON'T OFFER AS MANY FLEXIBLE OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO THOSE JUST KIND OF GROW AND GROW AND GROW UNTIL YOU HAVE KIND OF THIRTY FOUR OF THEM. SO THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON.
BUT AND SOME OF IT SOMETIMES IS SYSTEM LIMITED.
SO SOMETIMES IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE A DISCOUNTED MEMBERSHIP, YOU CAN'T DO IT IN ANOTHER MEANS. SO WITH OUR SYSTEM CURRENTLY, WE CAN DO AN AGE BASED DISCOUNT.
SO IF YOU'RE 60 OR OLDER AND YOU PURCHASE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP, IT AUTOMATICALLY GIVES YOU THE PREDETERMINED PRICE FROM THAT.
AND SO THAT'S SOME OF IT SYSTEM LIMITED.
SOME OF IT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TRYING TO BE ACCOMMODATING AS THEY THEY LEARN THE MARKET SO.
WELL, I THINK IF YOU IF YOU MODEL A LOT OF MODERN COMPANIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHETHER IT BE THINGS LIKE THIS OR OTHER SERVICES IS THE TENDENCY NOW IS TO GO TO MORE VERY SIMPLIFIED SPECIALIZATION AT A HIGH LEVEL OF QUALITY.
SO IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF THING, YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, GOOD TO HAVE THE HUGE MENU. AT ANOTHER POINT, IT'S LIKE, LET'S MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.
SO I'D ALSO SAY THE OTHER THING BESIDES THAT IS AND WE MENTIONED THAT A LITTLE BIT IS OFFERING ONLINE OPTIONS FOR MEMBERSHIP SALES OR OTHER SERVICE SALES THAT WE'VE DONE.
THAT DRIVES IT DIFFERENTLY, TOO, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ONLY DOING SALES AT THE COUNTER, YOU HAVE MORE TIME TO DO ALL THE OPTIONS.
BUT IF YOU'RE OFFERING THIS TO SOMEBODY ONLINE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THREE OR FOUR OPTIONS. THEY'RE GOING TO GET EXHAUSTED WITH THAT AND THEN GO ON.
BUT THEY HAVE TWO OPTIONS. THEY MAY MAKE A DECISION MUCH QUICKER.
SO SOME OF THIS ALSO FOLLOWS JUST THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH THE DIFFERENT ONLINE PLATFORMS AND THINGS AS WELL.
SO, YEAH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE COULD MOVE TO.
SO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A SOLID THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE THE SIMPLEST GUIDELINES.
I WILL SAY, IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THERE WOULD BE A CAVEAT BECAUSE THE BUDGET SHEETS WOULD LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS BROKEN DOWN.
YEAH. SO THEY THE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT MEMBERSHIPS ARE BROKEN DOWN IN DIFFERENT GLS.
SO THESE LIKE GOING LIKE THIS MAY CONSOLIDATE GLS, BUT WE'D STILL BE ABLE TO SEPARATE IT BASED OFF OTHER REPORTING TO KNOW WHO OUR CUSTOMERS ARE.
ONE THOUGHT FOR FOR INDIVIDUALS.
WELL, AND MAYBE FAMILIES, TOO.
BUT THE ONE THING THAT CAME TO MIND IS YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT SOME 20 YEAR OLD.
DO THEY PAY $300 OR DO YOU HAVE A SEMIANNUAL? OK IT'S 150.00 OR WHATEVER.
THE ONE THING THAT CAME TO MIND THOSE OF US THAT ARE, ARE THIS AGE, WE'RE LIKE SURE, LET ME PAY IT ONCE AND BE DONE, OK? BUT SOME YOUNGER FOLKS MAY NEED SOMETHING BESIDES JUST THE MONTHLY.
WELL, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MONTHLY, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH THAT.
SO IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT THAT'S COMING HOME FOR THE SUMMER FROM COLLEGE AND THEY WANT A MEMBERSHIP FROM JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST JUST THREE MONTHS, THEY CAN STILL SIGN UP FOR A MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP IN JUNE AND THEN DISCONTINUE THEIR MEMBERSHIP AT AUGUST WITHOUT ANY PENALTY. SO IT FUNCTIONS THE SAME.
AND THAT COULD EVEN BE DONE WHERE THEY SIGN UP ON THE 1ST OF JUNE, AND THEY JUST DETERMINE IN ADVANCE THAT THEY'RE CANCELING AT THE END OF AUGUST.
SO THAT'S STILL CAN BE ACCOMMODATED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
NOW, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE COST OF MEMBERSHIP FOR YOUNGER ONES.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT TO IS LIKE A YOUTH MEMBERSHIP OR WE HAVE THE YOUTH MEMBERSHIP CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
BUT LOOKING AT MORE OF A STUDENT BASED MEMBERSHIP BASED OFF OF SOME SORT OF CRITERIA THAT KIND OF BROUGHT THEM INTO THAT COLLEGE AGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT IS ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
SO THOSE BARRIERS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.
IT'LL LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT, AND IT WILL TAKE SOME STAFF TRAINING FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO PRESENT THAT TO CUSTOMERS.
BUT I DO THINK I HONESTLY THINK STAFF WOULD BE WILLING TO LEARN MORE IF IT WAS MORE SIMPLIFIED AS WELL. SO ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT KIND OF THE MEMBERSHIP STRUCTURE AND OFFERINGS AND THE BIG TAKE HOME FROM THAT REALLY IS THE IS REINSTITUTING THE DRAFT SYSTEM. AND SO, AND AS A NOTE, I FORGOT TO MENTION AS WELL.
THE DRAFT SYSTEM WAS PREVIOUSLY DONE THROUGH ACH AHEAD OF SET UP THROUGH BANK DRAFTS SPECIFICALLY. WHILE WE STILL HAVE THAT ACH CAPABILITY WITH OUR SYSTEM.
MY PREFERENCE AND WHAT I'VE SEEN MUCH EASIER IS JUST DOING DRAFTS THROUGH DEBIT OR CREDIT CARDS. THAT WAY, YOU ARE NOT DIRECTLY IMPACTING THEIR BANK STATEMENT.
SO IF THERE IS A DRAFT ERROR, IT'S NOT HITTING THEM ON THE GROCERY BILL KIND OF THING.
WE CAN CORRECT THAT WHERE THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO ACH IS STILL AVAILABLE AND THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS DRAFT, AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY TRIED. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WHERE THE ISSUES CAME IN, BUT THIS WOULD BE PRIMARILY DRIVEN BETWEEN CREDIT DEBIT CARD AND ACH WOULD BE AN OPTION IF WE CHOSE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT AS WELL.
BUT THAT JUST ACH IS TYPICALLY THE DIRECT CHECKING ACCOUNT DRAFT.
ALL RIGHT. SO IN SUMMARY OF THOSE THINGS, AND THEN WE'LL GET ON TO FACILITY CONDITIONS.
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SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ THESE KIND OF MORE VERBATIM BECAUSE THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED OFF SOME OF ALL THE STUFF WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.SO REINSTITUTE THE AUTOMATIC AND THIS IS ON PAGE FORTY ONE IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT, REINSTITUTE AUTOMATIC CREDIT AND DEBIT CARD DRAFT SYSTEMS, ACH IF NEEDED FOR ALL MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES TO EMPHASIZE BETTER ENGAGEMENT AND RETENTION AND THEN ULTIMATELY MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REVENUE.
ELIMINATE THE SEMI-ANNUAL AND QUARTERLY MEMBERSHIP ALTOGETHER.
IT'S JUST NOT WORTH HAVING THE EXTRA CATEGORIES CURRENTLY AS WE SEE IT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING PURCHASED BY THE MARKET, SO THE MARKET'S NOT ASKING FOR THEM.
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES BY RESTRUCTURING.
HOW WE OFFER THOSE TO INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY BASED USE, AGE BASED PRICING AND OTHER QUALIFICATION BASED PRICING TO OFFER DISCOUNTS INSTEAD OF HAVING SEPARATE CATEGORIES TO FURTHER REDUCE COSTS.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, BUT RATE INCREASES.
OUR RATES HAVE BEEN THE SAME OR RATE INCREASE AS I SAY CHANGES.
OUR RATES HAVE BEEN THE SAME FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE PUT IN HERE AS A POSSIBILITY IS EVERY FIVE YEARS THAT RATES BE PLANNED TO BE ASSESSED AND ADJUSTED, AND WITH THE CAVEAT OF IF THERE'S INFLATIONARY CONCERNS OR THERE'S ECONOMIC CONCERNS, LIKE IT'S NOT A SCHEDULED FIVE YEAR RATE INCREASE, BUT THAT THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR INCREASES, CHANGES OR REDUCTIONS EVERY FIVE YEARS AS PART OF JUST MOVING FORWARD.
SO IT DOESN'T YOU KNOW WHAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENS TO MOST PLACES THEY GO 10 15 YEARS NEVER INCREASE RATES, BUT OBVIOUSLY COSTS GO UP OVER TIME.
SO STANDARDIZE DAY PASS OPTIONS.
SO WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT DAYPARTS OPTIONS.
WE HAVE TWO DOLLARS, FOUR DOLLARS, FIVE DOLLARS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, A PERSON USING OUR FACILITY IS A BODY IN THE FACILITY.
SO JUST STANDARDIZING TO A SINGLE DAY PASS OPTION WHERE IT'S ONE PRICE, NO MATTER YOUR AGE OR WHATEVER LIKE THAT, BUT STILL KEEPING IT AFFORDABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE DAY PASS USERS, BECAUSE THAT MAY BE THE BEST OPTION FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO UNDERSELL OUR OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THEM WITH MEMBERSHIP.
AND RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE A $2 DAY PASS, IT MAKES IT HARD TO JUSTIFY PURCHASING A MEMBERSHIP IN SOME CATEGORIES.
OTHER CATEGORIES, IT'S NOT SO MUCH.
AND SO THAT'S ONE THING TO CONSIDER, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT OUR DAY PASS AND DIDN'T MENTION THIS SPECIFICALLY KIND OF KIND OF JUMPED AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
BUT OUR IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RATIOS OF DAY PASS SALES TO MEMBERSHIP SALES, IT'S ABOUT 40/40 IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. RIGHT NOW, IT'S OUR SORRY, 40 PERCENT TO 40 PERCENT OF OUR OPERATING, OUR REVENUE.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S SAYING ABOUT 20 PERCENT TO 40 PERCENT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T GOT TO SUMMER DAY USAGE, THAT'LL PROBABLY JUMP BACK UP. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR RATIO, THAT KIND OF INDICATES THAT THERE IS A LOT OF COMPETITION AMONG OURSELVES WITH.
SO WE'RE KIND OF COMPETING AGAINST OUR OWN MEMBERSHIP OPTIONS WITH THE OFFERINGS THAT WE HAVE. IF THAT MAKES SENSE, SO CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT RETENTION TRACKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRACKING RETENTION AND SEEING THAT WE'RE RETAINING MEMBERS AND RELATIONSHIPS OVER TIME AND THEN INCREASING STAFF EFFICIENCY AND CAPABILITY BY LEVERAGING SOME OF THE ONLINE RESOURCES, ENGAGEMENT TOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH OUR SYSTEM, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE DRAFT AND ONLINE MEMBERSHIP SALES AND THINGS OF THOSE ITEMS. AND SO JUST AS A SPECIAL NOTE WITH THAT, IF WE DO, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A MEMBERSHIP OR MEMBER THAT JOINS AND THEY THEY PAY EVERY MONTH ON TIME FOR 12 MONTHS, IT'S UNLIKELY, BUT THEY COULD DO THAT, RIGHT? THAT'S 12 INDIVIDUAL TRANSACTIONS FOR THE CUSTOMER.
IT'S 12 TRANSACTIONS FOR OUR STAFF.
IF WE MOVE TO A MONTHLY ITEM, THAT'S ONE TRANSACTION WHEN THEY START, ONE TRANSACTION WHEN THEY CANCEL. SO IT REALLY REDUCES STAFF TIME TO FOCUS ON OTHER THINGS BESIDES JUST THE TRANSACTION AS FAR AS MEMBER'S SERVICE AND FACILITY UPKEEP AND THINGS.
SO IT'S JUST A NOTE THAT BY CHANGING TO A DRAFT IT WILL ACTUALLY REDUCE THE BURDEN ON STAFFING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN JUST OVERALL SERVICE AT THE RECREATION CENTER.
BUT WE DID AND WE DO WANT PRICING TO BE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE KIDS THAT COME IN THE SUMMER AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO.
WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT PRICE PROHIBITIVE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN LINE WITH OUR MEMBERSHIP OFFERINGS.
SO IT'S NOT PEOPLE AREN'T MAKING THE DECISION BASED OFF OF LIKE, OH, I'M NOT GOING TO DO A MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE IT'S LESS.
IT'S SO CHEAP TO COME IN AND..
RIGHT YEAH AND OVERALL, YOU SAID, YOU SEE LOWER ENGAGEMENT THROUGH OUR STAFF OR THROUGH OUR DAY PASS USERS THAN WE DO WITH OUR MEMBERSHIP.
SO GOING BACK TO THE THE OTHER INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHO USES, AND THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO COME FREQUENTLY. YEAH, NO.
IT'S IT'S THE PRICING IS, I THINK, RIGHT ON TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A PRICING ISSUE.
I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE.
SO, ALL RIGHT, SO WE CAN ALWAYS JUMP BACK TO QUESTIONS WITH THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT TO KEEP US MOVING ON TIME.
SO MEGAN, HAS THAT PULLED UP HERE? SO ONE OF THE THE ITEMS AT THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT, WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE QUALITY OF OUR FACILITY CURRENTLY AS IT SITS IN RELATION TO ITS AGE.
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SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IS IT UP TO DATE BASED OFF ITS AGE? IS THERE SIGNIFICANT? WHERE ARE THERE SAFETY OR OPERATIONAL CONCERNS OR ITEMS SHOULD THEY BE REMOVED COMPLETELY BECAUSE OF THEIR CURRENT CONDITION? SO ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE FACILITY IN DIFFERENT MAJOR AREAS ARE RATED ON A ZERO TO FOUR SCALE FOR BEING THE HIGHEST BEING THE LOWEST.AND SO THREE OF OUR STAFF WENT THROUGH INDEPENDENTLY AND DID OUR FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT FOR ALL THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE AVERAGE SCORE.
SO OUT OF 100 TOTAL POINTS, OUR CURRENT FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT AVERAGE IS FIFTY SEVEN POINT ZERO EIGHT.
YOU'LL SEE A RANGE OF SIXTY TWO OR FIFTY TO SIXTY TWO POINTS.
SO JUST BY THAT, WITHOUT LOOKING AT ANY OTHER DATA, WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT WORK TO DO AS FAR AS GETTING OUR FACILITY CONDITION AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND ON THE SCALE,HERE WE HAVE IT RANKED AS A PRIORITY.
SO EVERYTHING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS SCALE HERE IN YELLOW ARE THINGS THAT RANKED IT TWO OR BELOW.
SO NOW SOME OF THOSE ITEMS WILL BE ABLE TO BE ASSESSED JUST BY INCREASED STAFF ATTENTION.
OTHER ITEMS MAY ACTUALLY INCREASE OR NEED ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT FOR REPAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WITH THAT, ITEMS SUCH AS THE LOWEST SCORING ITEMS WHERE THE GYMNASIUM, NATATORIUM AND RESTROOMS AND LOCKER ROOMS, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM OUR SURVEY RESULTS, THOSE ARE OUR MOST IMPORTANT ITEMS IN A LOT OF CASES.
SO WITH THOSE DIFFERENT SCORING ITEMS, AS WE LOOK TO FUTURE PLANNING, BUDGET PLANNING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, USING THIS AS ONE OF OUR MEANS OF MAKING DECISIONS FOR FUTURE PLANS AS FAR AS UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF THE RECREATION CENTER AND THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS. AS AN EXAMPLE, AGAIN, I SAID SOME OF THESE ITEMS AS FAR AS CLEANLINESS, CLUTTER, THINGS LIKE THAT AND JUST GENERAL CURB APPEAL, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT FROM A STAFFING STANDPOINT JUST BY MAKING OPERATIONAL CHANGES, OTHER THINGS, WE'LL TAKE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT TO BRING THEM UP TO SPEED. AND THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE JUST DETERIORATION IN THE NATATORIUM, GYM AND SPECIFICALLY LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.
THERE'S SIGNIFICANT LIGHTING ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT JUST BASE OFF FACILITY CONDITIONS, ASSESSMENT BASED OFF THE NEEDS OF ELEVATING MEMBER SERVICE.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FACILITY IN PLACE THAT'S EXPECTED SO THAT THEY SEE THEIR INVESTMENT IN MEMBERSHIP IS BEING MET BASED OFF OF THE BASED OFF THEIR LEVEL OF QUALITY, EXPECTATIONS AND THINGS.
AND OBVIOUSLY THINGS THAT ARE LOWER SCORING BASED OFF SAFETY CONCERNS AND THINGS.
THOSE ARE PRIORITIZED AUTOMATICALLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FROM A RISK MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF SAFETY AND TAKE CARE OF OUR MEMBERS AND OUR STAFF.
THEY'RE USING THOSE FACILITIES.
SO PRETTY TELLING. BUT I DO THINK AS WELL BECAUSE WE DID THREE INDEPENDENTS AND WE DIDN'T DISCUSS OUR RESULTS.
IT WAS PRETTY CLOSE ON WHAT EVERYBODY SCORED.
WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT ASSESSMENT EYES.
AND SO THAT WAS REALLY TELLING INFORMATION AS WELL.
ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE? ALL RIGHT. SO FROM THAT, WE'LL ALSO GO INTO NOW THAT'S OUR CONDITION OF OUR FACILITY, WE'LL JUMP OVER INTO THE USAGE OF OUR FACILITY.
AND SO WE REALLY WANTED TO SEE HOW OUR FACILITY IS USED AND WHAT THE PATTERNS OF THE USAGE ARE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO POINT OUT EARLIER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION, IF YOU CAN GO TO ONE OF THE BAR GRAPHS THAT HAS SO RIGHT, THERE IS A GOOD ONE. SO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS TOTAL RECREATION REVENUE JUST ACROSS JANUARY THROUGH DECEMBER. YOU'LL SEE THAT DAY PASS SALES ARE RED.
PERHAPS PROGRAMS AS PURPLE MEMBERSHIPS, THAT KIND OF ORANGE COLOR, YOU'LL SEE THAT BOTH MEMBERSHIP AND DAY PASS GREATLY INCREASE IN THE MONTHS OF REALLY MAY, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, THEN GREATLY DECREASE IN SEPTEMBER.
SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHEN COMING INTO THOSE REVENUE PROJECTIONS AS WELL, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF SUCH A STEEP CURVE THAT GIVES US A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY ON THE BACKSIDE OF SUMMER TO WORK ON RETAINING FAMILY MEMBERSHIPS OR OTHER MEMBERSHIPS THAT WE TRADITIONALLY LOSE BECAUSE MOST OF THE MEMBERSHIPS WE LOSE ON THAT CURVE ARE FAMILIES.
SO NOT ONLY ARE WE APPROACHING A RETENTION FROM A STANDPOINT OF STRUCTURALLY HOW WE'RE OFFERING MEMBERSHIPS, BUT NOW WE HAVE THE TIMING STANDPOINT OF WHEN ARE THEY HERE AND WHEN CAN WE KEEP THEM? SO THAT'S JUST A GOOD ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT OUR PEAKS AND VALLEYS KIND OF LOOK LIKE THROUGHOUT THE YEARLY CYCLE.
AND SO WHAT WE'D WANT TO DO IS REDUCE THE CURVE.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY FLATTEN THE CURVE IN THAT SENSE, BUT WE DON'T WANT SUCH A, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO WE WANT TO BALANCE IT OUT.
SO THE THE ENDS ARE HIGHER AND THE THE MEDIUM STAYS HIGH, SO THE MIDDLE STAYS HIGH.
BUT WITH THAT, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE USAGE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING BASED OFF TIME AND DAY, SO THIS IS MEMBERSHIP, CHECK IN. SO WE HAVE TWO WAYS OF USAGE, REALLY.
SO THIS IS GOING TO SHOW YOUR DAILY TRENDS OF USAGE WHEN PEOPLE VISIT BASED OFF TIME OF DAY AND YOU'LL SEE WE SEE AN INCREASE AT SEVEN AND EIGHT P.M.
OR 8:00 A.M. I'M SORRY WHERE WE SEE OUR BIGGEST SPIKES IN THE MORNING AND THEN WE'LL SEE OUR NEXT BIGGEST SPIKE, KIND OF LIKE THREE, FOUR, FIVE P.M.
AND THAT GOES TO THE FAMILY MEMBERSHIPS.
THAT IS REALLY PRETTY TYPICAL WITH MOST MEMBERSHIP FACILITIES.
YOU HAVE YOUR MORNING RUSH, YOUR EVENING RUSH.
MORNING RUSH IS MOSTLY MADE UP OF SENIORS.
AFTERNOON, AND RUSSIA IS MOSTLY MADE UP OF FAMILIES.
AND A LOT OF OUR VISITORS, OUR KIDS AND THINGS AFTER SCHOOL PLAYING BASKETBALL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OR WORKING PARENTS COME IN TO WORK OUT.
SO THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH THERE.
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THE ONLY THING THAT'S KIND OF AN ANOMALY IS USUALLY A SPIKE IN THE MORNING HAPPENS MORE AROUND THE 8 TO 9:00 A.M.HOUR. SO SEEING IT AT 7:00 A.M., WE'RE JUST KIND OF AN EARLIER COMMUNITY THAN OTHER SIMILAR ONES, BUT THE EVENING IS DEFINITELY REPRESENTATIVE AS NORMAL IF WE GO TO DAY PASS. SO THIS IS MEMBERSHIP CHECK IN BY DAY, WILL STAY ON MEMBERSHIP, CHECK IN FOR A SECOND. THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT OUR AVERAGE CHECKING VOLUME OVER TIME.
AND SO THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS THAT CHECK IN ON AVERAGE ON A GIVEN DAY, WHETHER, WHATEVER DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS.
SO YOU SEE, WE HAVE OUR BIGGEST NUMBERS MONDAY, TUESDAY, THEN IT KIND OF SLOWLY DECREASE OUR LOWEST MEMBERSHIP USES JUST ON SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE IS THAT IS INVERSE OF OUR DAY PASS USAGE.
SO OUR DAY PASS USAGE IS LOWER IN THE WEEKDAYS, HIGHER ON THE WEEKENDS.
AND THOSE TWO THINGS MAY BE RELATED AS WELL.
AND A LOT OF THAT ALSO TRENDS HEAVILY WITH THE SUMMER POOL SEASONAL OPERATION AS WELL.
BY TIME OF DAY, YOU'LL SEE OUR DAY PASS SALES REALLY PICK UP AT 1:00 P.M.
AND THEN KIND OF TAPER OFF THROUGH THE DAY AND KIND OF REALLY FALL OFF BY THE SEVEN P.M.
HOUR. THAT WOULD ALSO PRIMARILY CORRESPOND WITH POOR USAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THIS IS OUR DAY PASS BY DAY OF THE WEEK.
SO YOU'LL SEE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY IS KIND OF OUR HIGHEST POINTS.
BUT IT'S ALSO VERY FLAT ACROSS THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN THIS SPECIFIC WAYS ARE NOW AUDITORIUM USAGE.
YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT ACROSS ALL MONTHS.
YOU'LL SEE, OBVIOUSLY, IT FOLLOWS THE SAME TRENDS GOES UP MAY, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST.
WE ALSO SEE A BUMP IN MARCH, WHICH TYPICALLY HAPPENS THROUGH HEAVY USE OVER SPRING BREAK.
BUT BECAUSE THE MIDDLE PULLS UP SO MUCH, WE ALSO SEPARATED OUT BY SEASON.
SO SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, YOU'LL SEE OUR KIND OF AVERAGE USAGE.
SAME THING WITH DECEMBER, WE SEE A SPIKE DURING THE WINTER BREAK HOLIDAY WITH PEOPLE OFF SCHOOL. THEY COME AND USE THAT. SO WE SEE A HIGH USAGE THERE AND THE TABLES BELOW THAT JUST FOR WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING.
THIS IS BASED OFF OF FREQUENCY OF USE OR OUR GREEN TIMES.
OUR HIGHEST USAGE TIMES YELLOW'S LOWEST USAGE.
RED IS WHERE THERE'S REALLY LOW USAGE AND THAT CHANGES FROM SEASON TO SEASON.
THAT'S WHY WE BROKE IT UP TO SEASON BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT LOOKS LIKE OUR USAGE IS REALLY HIGH ALL THE TIME BECAUSE SUMMER BRINGS IT UP SO HIGH.
SO GOING HERE, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THIS IS WINTER SPRING.
SO MARCH GOES UP QUITE A BIT AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE START TO SEE A LOT MORE HIGH USAGE STARTING AT ONE P.M.
. THAT'S REALLY CORRESPONDING WITH VISITORS THAT WE GET IN SPRING BREAK.
IT'S NOT THROUGHOUT MARCH, IT'S JUST THAT ONE WEEK OF MARCH THAT PULLS UP THE WHOLE AVERAGE. AND THEN THIS IS GOING INTO THE SUMMER WHERE WE SEE THE JUNE RUSH, WHICH IS TYPICAL A LITTLE BIT LOWER IN JULY, A LITTLE BIT LOWER IN AUGUST.
AND THAT'S, I WOULD SAY, WITH EVERY NATATORIUM OR SEASONAL OPERATIONAL POOL THAT'S PROBABLY FOLLOWS NORMAL TRENDS.
SO, SO YEAH, WITH THAT THAT GIVES US A BETTER IDEA OF SEASONAL USAGE, DAILY USAGE DAY OR DAY PASS USAGE, MEMBERSHIP USAGE BY TIME, DAY AND SEASON, WHICH REALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS NOW WE KNOW TO A BETTER DEGREE AND MORE GRANULAR DETAIL WHEN PEOPLE ARE VISITING US, WHO'S VISITING US AND WHAT RATIOS AND THINGS, SO WE KNOW HOW TO PLAN MORE EFFICIENTLY. SO ON TWO MORE NOTES WITH THAT WITH THE SUMMER OR SO, WE MENTIONED PRIVATE POOL PARTIES. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO ASSESS WAS PRIVATE POOL PARTY USAGE.
WE OFFER PRIVATE POOL PARTIES YEAR ROUND AND WE RETAIN TIME FOR THE POOL TO BE OPEN BASED OFF YEAR ROUND OPERATION.
BUT WE REALLY ONLY SELL PRIVATE POOL PARTIES FROM THAT SAME MAY TO JUNE.
SO IT REALLY WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO CONSOLIDATE TO JUST OFFERING PRIVATE POOL PARTIES IN THAT SEASONAL TIME.
AND ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY, THEY'RE SOLD ON FRIDAYS, SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
SO MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY MAY NOT BE NECESSARY TO OFFER PRIVATE POOL PARTIES AS WELL.
AND THEN THE LAST WAY IS THE HOLIDAY USAGE.
WE LOOKED AT ALL THE MAJOR HOLIDAYS AND ALSO CITY HOLIDAYS AND LOOKED AT USAGE TRENDS AND WHAT HOW ATTENDANCE WORKED ON THOSE HOLIDAYS.
IT ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY DROPS BY A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EXTENT ACROSS ALL HOLIDAYS.
AND SO ANY HOLIDAYS WE DON'T CURRENTLY CLOSE FOR.
THAT WE RECOGNIZE AS PART OF THE CITY, WE JUST RECOMMEND TO STANDARDIZING OUR HOLIDAY HOURS BASED AROUND THAT INSTEAD OF KIND OF PICKING AND CHOOSING WHICH HOLIDAYS WE OPERATE DIFFERENTLY ON. IF IT'S A HOLIDAY WE'RE CLOSED ON, WE'RE CLOSED OFF HOLIDAY, WE'RE OPERATING ON. THESE ARE OUR STANDARD HOLIDAY HOURS ACROSS THE BOARD JUST TO FURTHER ELIMINATE CONFUSION FOR OUR MEMBERS AND GUESTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
RIGHT, THAT'S IN THE MARKET ANALYSIS, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MADE ANGLETON DIFFERENT WAS THAT WE OFFERED PRIVATE POOL PARTIES, BUT THAT'S WE'RE ALSO THE ONLY FACILITY THAT OFFERS PRIVATE POOL PARTIES. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT A OF ONE OF TWO WAYS IT COULD BE AN ASSET TO PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, FACILITY THAT IS OFFERING IT.
OR WE COULD BE SPENDING EXTRA DOLLARS ON HAVING A FACILITY OPEN FOR PRIVATE POOL PARTIES RATHER THAN ELONGATING THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR JUST GENERAL POOL USE.
COME UP SEVERAL TIMES AND THERE WAS COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE COME FROM SUGARLAND OR KATY OR ELSEWHERE BECAUSE OUR POOL PARTIES FOR YOU TO HAVE A PARTY HERE CHEAPER, CHUCKY CHEESE OR SOMEWHERE.
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THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT IT MAY NOT REALLY BE GREAT FOR US FINANCIALLY.RIGHT, SO ONE CONSIDERATION COULD BE, I MEAN, WHILE WE CAN'T REMEMBER KYLE, YOU MAY REMEMBER THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE WE BROUGHT IN FROM THOSE I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY DECENT SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF REVENUE.
BUT IT'S ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH MAY THROUGH OR BASICALLY MEMORIAL DAY TO LABOR DAY AND ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
THERE WAS A FEW ONE OFFS HERE AND THERE WHERE THEY DID A WEEKDAY, BUT WE'RE RESERVING TIME TO OFFER THAT YEAR ROUND.
AND SO IT'S REALLY LIKE IT'S I THINK IT'S STILL VERY LUCRATIVE TO OFFER AND IT'S IMPORTANT SERVICE THAT WE OFFER AND IT'S BEING USED HEAVILY, BUT NOT ON A YEAR ROUND BASIS. AND I THINK SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING OR COULD PROPOSE ARE AGAIN, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WAS WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY FACILITIES THAT IS OPEN TILL NINE P.M.
WHILE THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'D BE BENEFICIAL WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE USER TRENDS, OUR ATTENDANCE SIGNIFICANTLY DROPS OFF AT AROUND SIX.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO PROVIDE SWIM UP UNTIL THE HOURS OF CLOSURE, BUT YET STILL MAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER, I HAVE THE ABILITY TO OFFER A PRIVATE POOL PARTIES WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE DOING BOTH SERVING PEOPLE FROM COMING OUT OF TOWN, UTILIZING THE FACILITY DURING HOURS OF OPERATION AND THEN HAVING THOSE PRIVATE POOL PARTIES OUTSIDE OF THAT.
BUT WE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS.
YEAH, THE ONLY THE ONLY REAL NOTE, THE THING THAT WE NOTICED FROM THAT IS JUST WHEN WHEN THESE ARE ACTUALLY BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AND LIKE WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY OCCURRING, BASED OFF WHEN WE'RE OFFERING IT.
AND THERE'S JUST A BIG DISCREPANCY BASED OFF THE VOLUME THAT WE OFFER AND WHEN IT'S HAPPENING. AND YOU COULD ALMOST CUT OFF NINE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR AND NOT BE AFFECTED.
NOW THERE IS A HANDFUL THAT HAPPENED IN THOSE, BUT IT'S HIT OR MISS.
YEAH. CAN I ASK A QUESTION WHEN THEY'RE HAVING A PRIVATE POOL PARTY, THEY DON'T GET EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE POOL, DO THEY? OH MY GOSH, YES.
THEN THEY OUGHT TO BE REALLY PAYING FOR THAT, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IN SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU SEE IN THE SURVEY TO REFLECT IT BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THE POOL DURING ALL HOURS OF OPERATION BECAUSE OUR POOL IS OUR FACILITY IS OPEN UNTIL 9:00, BUT OUR POOL USAGE CLOSES BEFORE SEVEN.
BECAUSE OUR PRIVATE POOL PARTY, HOUR BLOCKS ARE FROM SEVEN TO NINE P.M..
THEY'RE PAYING FOR THAT IN THEIR PRIVATE ROOM OF THE OUTSIDE. OH, IGHT.
WELL, AND YOU'RE EXCLUDING ALL THE MEMBERS FROM USING IT BECAUSE THE OTHER PART OF IT IS BECAUSE THE REC CENTER BECOMES OUR EMERGENCY CENTER AND THEN YOU CAN'T GO USE THE THE FACILITIES, BUT COME ON, WELL, I STILL CAN'T GO TO THE REC CENTER. I STILL CAN'T GO TO THE REC CENTER.
YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. SOME OF THE GUYS ARE DOING THE POOL PARTIES ARE REALLY NOT IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY GETTING SHUT OUT BY SOMEONE WHO'S COMING DOWN FOR SOMETHING THAT'S QUOTE UNQUOTE CHEAPER.
YEAH, NOT THAT I MEAN, I STILL, I LIKE HOW YOU WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION, HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE FINANCIAL DECISION.
BUT KEEPING THE WHOLE FACILITY OPEN LONGER JUST FOR THAT NEEDS TO MAKE GOOD FINANCIAL SENSE TO DO IT.
YEAH, AND FURTHER THAN THAT, IT'S NOT ONLY KEEPING IT OPEN JUST FOR THAT, IT'S KEEPING IT OPEN FOR THE POTENTIAL OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY BEING BOOKED CERTAIN TIMES OF YEAR.
YEAH. AND SO IT'S ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT SOME OF THE BOOKS IN THOSE TIMES THE THING.
SO AND I WAS GOING TO MENTION ON THAT, AS WELL AS JUST FROM A MEMBER CENTRIC OR JUST A DAY PASS USER STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO DRIVE HOME AFTER THIS TO LEAGUE CITY.
AND IF I WANTED TO GO TAKE A DO LAP SWIM, I'M NOT GETTING HOME UNTIL AFTER SIX, SEVEN O'CLOCK. AND SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT ANYBODY WHO'S COMMUTING TO WORK OR JUST GOING AFTER WORK AND THEY'RE WONDERING OR MAYBE WAITING TILL AFTER DINNER TO COME, JUST GET A LAP, SWIM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS CURRENTLY LIMITED.
SO I ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE VERY MUCH LIMITING YOUR OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN RECREATIONAL SWIMMING TO THOSE WHO HAVE NORMAL WORKING SCHEDULES.
I APPLAUD THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THOSE ASSESSMENTS UNTIL YOU'VE DONE THIS KIND OF WORK.
NOW YOU CAN TROUBLESHOOT AND YOU CAN SAY, OK, WAIT, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? HOW CAN WE REDO? RIGHT? SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU WALKING US THROUGH THIS, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THE STAFF DID JUST TO GATHER THIS DATA.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND LIKE I SAID, REALLY, IT'S JUST IT'S DATA AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT MEGAN'S ABOUT TO GET TO SOME KIND OF OTHER ITEMS TO ADDRESS
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SPECIFICALLY THE DATA.AND I'M ALSO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AS WE GO AS WELL.
SO BUT THE DATA YOU'RE BRINGING MAKES SENSE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE COLLECTED.
AND I MEAN, EVERY TIME WE MET ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND EVERY TIME WE MET, WE HAD MORE QUESTIONS AND IT WAS LIKE, OK, SO WE NEED THIS DATA SET NOW AND THIS AND THIS.
AND SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THIS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST RECENTLY MENTIONED WAS THE POOL OPERATING HOURS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO LOOKED AT WAS PART TIME SCHEDULES, HOW IT FLOWS WITH THE ATTENDANCE AND THE POOL VERSUS THE FACILITY.
COULD WE REDUCE HOURS OF OPERATION IN A NATATORIUM DURING HOURS THAT IT IS NOT USED BECAUSE WE ARE STAFFING THAT FACILITY OR THAT AN NATATORIUM ALL DAY LONG.
SO WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE WERE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO BRING TO YOU WITH A REVISED PART TIME SCHEDULE. BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE COULD GIVE YOU THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE COMFORTABLE MAKING ARE WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND THIS CAME ABOUT REALLY BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD IN ADDITION TO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ASSESSED AND, YOU KNOW, ARE REALLY BASICALLY OUR DEFICIENCIES. CURRENTLY, OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, WE HAVE A PARK SUPERINTENDENT, REC SUPERINTENDENT AND OF COURSE, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND THE REC SUPERINTENDENT MANAGES ALL FACILITY OPERATIONS IN ADDITION TO ALL OF OUR RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS, SPECIAL EVENTS, SENIOR PROGRAMS, ET CETERA.
SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WE CURRENTLY AND HONESTLY, IT HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR.
THE ASSISTANT AQUATIC COORDINATOR POSITION THAT WE HAVE HAD VACANT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR NEARLY A YEAR.
WE CANNOT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO RECRUIT A QUALIFIED CANDIDATE FOR THAT POSITION.
SO WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS ELIMINATING THAT POSITION, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF FULL TIME. WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY YES, IT IS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF FULL TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP ON SOME OF OUR BENEFITS, REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF BENEFITS.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE PROPOSED REVISIONS OR WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY ADMINISTRATION.
WE WOULD LIKE YOUR APPROVAL AS WELL TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION.
BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE DEFICIENCIES AND MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOMEONE DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO THIS FACILITY. AND SO WHAT WE ARE WANTING TO DO IS ELIMINATE THAT ASSISTANT AQUATIC COORDINATOR POSITION.
WE HAVE A POSITION OF FACILITY MANAGER CURRENTLY THAT IS SERVING UNDER THE RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT AND WE ARE PROPOSING, THAT INDIVIDUAL IS ACTUALLY TAKING A JOB WITHIN THE CITY AS A PROMOTION.
SO THAT POSITION WILL BE VACANT, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION TO A FACILITY OPERATIONS SUPERINTENDENT.
SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT WE ACTUALLY SEPARATE THE RECREATION DIVISION, WHICH OFTENTIMES COMES UP IN DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE RECREATION CENTER BRINGING IN, WHAT ARE WE PUTTING OUT? THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
WE WOULD HAVE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS AND GL CODES ASSOCIATED SPECIFICALLY WITH THE OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY, IN ADDITION TO THE REVENUE, AS WOULD THE RECREATION DIVISION, WHICH WOULD BE SEEN COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY.
WE TALKED TO FINANCE ABOUT DEVELOPING THEIR OWN GL CODES AND REVENUE CODES SO THAT YOU CAN SEE COMPLETELY SEPARATE WHAT IS THE RECREATION DIVISION DOING AND WHAT IS THE FACILITY, HOW IS IT OPERATING? SOME OF THESE.
THIS GIVES YOU KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT? WHERE WE ARE AT CURRENTLY AND WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING TO GO IN THOSE PROPOSED CHANGES? IT ALSO GIVES YOU AN ESTIMATED ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET AND ANNUAL REVENUE.
LIKE I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU GUYS BEFORE, THERE ARE SOME PARKS AND RECREATION SERVICES.
I MEAN, SPECIFICALLY TAKING PARKS FOR AN EXAMPLE THAT ARE NOT REVENUE BASED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOME OF THOSE, SIMILARLY, IN THE RECREATION DIVISION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE, THE COST RECOVERY MAY BE ZERO.
IT MAY BE OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY TO WHERE WE HAVE A ZERO PERCENT COST RECOVERY EXPECTATION. NOT SAYING THAT IT IS.
I'M JUST I'M TELLING YOU WHY YOU MIGHT SEE SUCH A DRASTIC DIFFERENCE OF THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL REVENUE.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INSTITUTE, LIKE CONTRACT PROGRAMS. SPECIFICALLY WE MENTIONED EARLIER THIS EVENING I9 SPORTS CONTRACTING WITH SOME GROUPS WHERE WE GET A PERCENT RETURN ON REVENUE FOR THOSE FORMAL SPORTS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED. AND THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE UTILIZING FACILITIES.
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WE WOULD BE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM, BUT OUR STAFF WOULD NOT BE MANAGING THE WORKLOAD. SO THAT IS OF GREAT BENEFIT TO US.SO WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE WELCH PARK THAT IS UNDERUTILIZED OR EVEN KINGS FIELD OVER AT BATES PARK, IF WE CAN PLAN A FLAG FOOTBALL LEAGUE AND IT'S OPERATED BY I9 SPORTS AND WE TAKE 25 PERCENT OF ALL REVENUE THAT HELPS US ACTIVATE AN AREA THAT WAS NOT ACTIVATED BEFORE AND WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF MANPOWER BEHIND IT SO.
SO IS THAT WHERE THE MEMBER SERVICES CONTRACTORS, IS THAT WHERE THAT GOES IN THERE HERE? I'M SORRY.
SO WHERE DO YOU HAVE MEMBERS, SERVICES, CONTRACTORS.
BOTTOM SO THE YES, THE CONTRACTORS UNDER THE MEMBER SERVICES.
SO THE WATER AEROBICS, THE GROUP EXERCISE AT THE FACILITY, WE CONTRACT THEM OUT.
WHY WOULDN'T THEY BE ON THE REC SIDE? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE CONCEPT.
IT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR MEMBERSHIP.
SO WHAT'S ON THE LEFT SIDE? SO THE LEFT SIDE IS LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, FATHER DAUGHTER DANCE OR OUR DICKEY BATES DISC GOLF TOURNAMENT RIGHT SENIOR PROGRAMS, ALL OF OUR SENIOR PROGRAMS. THAT IS NOT A MEMBER SERVICE.
SO IF YOU GET A MEMBERSHIP AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR SENIOR PROGRAMS. YOU HAVE TO BECOME A SENIOR MEMBER TO PARTICIPATE OR PAY ADDITIONAL FEES TO GO ON THE TRIPS AND ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE IT'S LATE, I'M JUST NOT CLICKING ON IT.
I GUESS WHAT I WAS THINKING WE HAD HERE ON THE RIGHT WAS FACILITIES THEMSELVES THE KEEP IT CLEAN, KEEP IT WORKING, KEEP IT GOING.
AND THEN I WAS THINKING LEFT SIDE IS WHAT SORT OF ACTIVITIES ARE GOING ON HERE, SO.
LET'S JUST WORK DOWN. SO THE FACILITY OPERATION SUPERINTENDENT IS GOING TO BE MANAGING BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT, THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE INCREASED OPPORTUNITIES FOR REVENUE GENERATION.
THEY'RE MAKING SURE THAT THESE AUTOMATED DRAFTS ARE WORKING PROPERLY.
THEY HAVE OVERSIGHT ON THE THINGS THAT WE ARE AGAIN RECOMMENDING BE CHANGED.
DIRECTLY UNDER THEM IS AN AQUATIC MANAGER BECAUSE THEY ARE OPERATING THE FACILITY AND ASSOCIATED LIFEGUARDS TO OPERATE THE FACILITY, WHICH IS A MEMBER SERVICE.
IF YOU BUY A MEMBERSHIP, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE NATATORIUM.
THE CUSTODIAN HELPS MAINTAIN THAT FACILITY.
IT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT FACILITY.
THEY'RE NOT WORKING ANYWHERE ELSE.
IT IS AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE HAVE IT LABELED THERE.
SATISFACTION. YES, THAT IS YOUR FRONT DESK, YOUR FULL TIME FRONT DESK STAFF, AND THEY DIRECTLY MANAGE OR WOULD DIRECTLY MANAGE THE PART TIME EMPLOYEES, FRONT DESK STAFF AND THEN OUR CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES WHO OFFER GROUP EXERCISE, WHICH IS A MEMBER SERVICE.
THAT'S THE X'S, RIGHT? YES, IT IS.
OK. AND WE INCLUDED THEM IN THERE BECAUSE WHEN YOU BUY A MEMBERSHIP, YOU HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THE POTENTIAL OF REMOVING THEM AND NOT BEING AN ADDITIONAL FEE.
IF THAT WERE THE CASE, THEY WOULD MOVE OVER TO THE RECREATION SIDE.
BUT BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING THAT PEOPLE APPRECIATED THE GROUP EXERCISE BEING INCLUDED IN THEIR MEMBERSHIP THAT IS STAYING ON THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DIVISION.
SO ALL OF THE OTHER WE HAVE LISTED UNDER ONE OF THE PROGRAMS SPECIALISTS REGISTRATION BASED PROGRAMS, THOSE ARE ALL PROGRAMS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY OUTSIDE OF A MEMBERSHIP. EXTRAS THESE EXTRAS OVER HERE.
YES. THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE I9.
I9 SPORTS, ANY OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, RACES, RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS, OUTDOOR PROGRAMS AND SENIOR PROGRAMS. IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD HIM TO SAY? YES, IT WAS.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO.
WE WILL BE INCREASING CAPACITY AND NEED TO INCREASE CAPACITY.
WE NEED TO GROW WITH IT. WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND AND THAT IS EVIDENT BY SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES THAT WE HAVE FOUND WITH OVERALL MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY.
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WE JUST HAVE TOO MANY THINGS ON ONE PROFESSIONALIZED STAFF AND THEN A LOT OF OUR OTHER STAFF ARE ENTRY LEVEL.AND SO THIS WILL HELP US TO ELEVATE THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE AND PROFESSIONALIZE THESE POSITIONS. IT'LL HELP WITH RECRUITING AND RETENTION.
AND SO WHERE WE THINK THAT THIS NEW ORGANIZATION WILL HELP NOT ONLY INCREASE OUR CAPACITY AND RECRUITING ABILITY, BUT ALSO HELP EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THIS IS STRICTLY A YES ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER ASSOCIATED OPERATION AND REVENUE, AND ALSO MAKE IT VERY APPARENT THAT THERE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DIVISION FOR RECREATION SERVICES AND PROGRAMS. SO I HAVE A QUESTION.
SURE. ON THE REORGANIZATION WHERE YOU HAVE PROGRAM SPECIALISTS.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE TIED LIKE TO THE YOUTH THE ADULTS, THE EVENTS? YES.
YES. AND SO THAT LAST BULLET KIND OF SPECIFIES WE DIDN'T LABEL IT EXACTLY ON THERE.
THEY'RE ALL CONSIDERED PROGRAM SPECIALISTS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE DEDICATED TO SENIORS, ONE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND OUTDOOR PROGRAMS. AS SOON AS LAKESIDE IS OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE, WE ALREADY HAVE ANGLER CERTIFIED INSTRUCTORS.
WE'VE HAD FOLKS GO THROUGH ARCHERY PROGRAMS THROUGH TPW, AND WE JUST RECENTLY WENT THROUGH OR KYLE SUBMITTED A GRANT FOR TPW TO OFFER OUTDOOR PROGRAMING.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE WILL BE OFFERING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THE OTHER THING ATHLETICS AND REGISTRATION BASED PROGRAMS. SO WE CONTRACT WITH SOME PEOPLE LIKE, I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE CALLED IT, BUT IT'S SIMILAR TO PAINTING WITH A TWIST.
WE'LL HAVE ARTISTS COME IN AND DO A PAINTING.
SO THOSE ARE CONTRACTED REGISTRATION BASED PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER AT THE FACILITY.
IT IS A FACILITY THAT IS BEING USED, BUT IT IS NOT A MEMBER SERVICE, SO IT WOULD BE IN THAT RECREATION DIVISION.
SO MEGAN. YES THAT'S NOT PART OF THE REC CENTER.
AND WE WOULD WELL, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY IN THE GENERAL FUND TO REMOVE THAT FROM ABLC.
SO RIGHT NOW, IT IS AN ABLC FUNDED ITEM AND AND IT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY, IT JUST HAS NOT BEEN DIVIDED IN THIS WAY.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE ON YOUR REVENUE SHEET, YOUR MEMBERSHIP, YOU HAVE MISCELLANEOUS PROGRAMS, FATHER, DAUGHTER DANCE.
SO ALL THE CONTENT IS THERE, BUT WE'LL BE SEPARATING IT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S DELINEATED MORE CLEARLY.
AND AS THE CITY GROWS, IF WE WANT TO START A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THAT CAN BE REDUCED, WHETHER IT'S PERSONNEL OR THROUGH FUNDING, WE CAN CONSIDER THAT.
NO, I WAS JUST MAKING SURE IF WAS I UNDERSTANDING THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART? RIGHT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE PART UNDER PARK MAINTENANCE SUPERINTENDENT IS ELSEWHERE.
ALL THE OTHER PART OF IT UNDER ASSISTANT PARK DIRECTOR IS ABLC.
SORRY. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, YES.
GOTCHA. OK, BELOW THAT THAT LINE AND I WAS CAUGHT BY THE, IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE THE INFORMATION, THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET AND THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL REVENUE.
YES. IS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL LOSS.
IT IS, AND LIKE I SAID, I MEAN FOR THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND PARKS AND RECREATION IS TO CREATE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE SERVING.
AND SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, 100 PERCENT COST RECOVERY ON ALL THE ITEMS. YES. NEVER HAD 100.
YES. BUT WHAT THIS IS SHOWING IS WHEN I HAD THOUGHT THAT THE EIGHT HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND THAT WE HAD FOR THIS YEAR, BUDGET WAS LIKE WAY OVER THE TOP.
RIGHT. IT'S NOT EVEN WHAT THIS IS.
RIGHT. YEAH. OK, SO HAS CHRIS ENTERED INTO THIS? BECAUSE REMEMBER WHEN YOU AND SUSIE AND CHRIS AND I TALKED HOW HE WAS GOING TO BE GOING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL TO AT LEAST GET US NOT TO HAVE TO PAY FOR 50 PERCENT OF THE PARKS.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY OTHER CONVERSATION? CAN ABLC BE MOVED AWAY FROM PAYROLL AND THEN HAVE OUR FUNDS USED
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FOR BUILDING THINGS? WE KIND OF TOUCH ON IT AND THEN WE BACK OFF.AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION EVERY YEAR.
SO WHEN WE MEET FOR BUDGET WORKSHOP NEXT MONTH.
VERY GOOD. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS.
BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER 100 PERCENT.
I MEAN, IT NEVER COVERED ITSELF.
AND BUT ALSO THOSE SALES TAXES ONLY GO SO FAR.
SO MAYBE IF WE JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT A RESTRUCTURING OF HOW THE SALES TAX DOLLARS THAT COME TO ABLC ARE SPENT AND MAYBE HOW IT NEEDS TO MOVE TO A TRUE PARKS AND REC OVERSIGHT BY THE CITY.
BECAUSE IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GET FOR BEING HERE, THEN WE CAN PROVIDE MORE FACILITIES AND NOT HAVE TO PAY ALL THE PAYROLL BECAUSE IT'S FUNDED ELSEWHERE. SO.
WHAT IS THIS THE TYPICAL I KNOW YOU HAD A BREAKDOWN IN YOUR PACKET ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT CITIES THAT HAVE REC CENTERS AND THE FROM THEM? WHAT KIND OF RETURN THEY GET VERSUS THEIR OPERATING EXPENSE? WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO.
I KNOW, GOSH, I LOOKED AT THE EDC IN LAKE JACKSON SEVERAL MONTHS AGO JUST BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE HOW THEY WERE FUNDING PROJECTS.
AND I WILL SAY IT IS SUBSIDIZED, BUT IT WASN'T TO THE DEGREE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN ANGLETON. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS, BUT YOU COULD FIND THAT IN ANY MUNICIPAL ADOPTED BUDGET.
SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK INTO, I CAN.
I CAN COST RECOVERY KIND OF LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROBABLY LIKE 40 PERCENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. PREVIOUSLY, ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS OPERATING REVENUE IN ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF EXPENSES WAS SIMILAR TO A RATIO THAT I'VE HAD MORE RECENTLY.
AND SO THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON AS FAR AS THAT RATIO.
AND JUST TO SUPPORT KIND OF WHAT MEGAN'S SAYING, THE SOME OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS ABOUT CAPACITY BUILDING. SO WHILE WE HAVE THE ESTIMATED REVENUES OF THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE THOUSAND IN OPERATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS WITH MORE FOCUS, WE HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE BEYOND THOSE ESTIMATES.
YOU KNOW, BUT ALWAYS NOT KNOWING WHAT THE UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, ESPECIALLY IN THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'VE HAD LATELY [INAUDIBLE] SO THOSE ARE THE BEST ESTIMATES.
I WOULD PROBABLY SAY THAT MAYBE THE JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE AND SOME COMPARABLES IN THAT SENSE, SO.
BUT IF WE ALWAYS EXPECT IT FROM THE DAY WE BUILT THIS FACILITY WAS A SERVICE TO COMMUNITY, WASN'T A FOR PROFIT FACILITY.
BUT I GUESS, AS CHARLOTTEE SAID, OUR OPERATING BUDGET THAT WE COVER HASS INCREASED.
SO WE LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY, EVEN THOUGH THAT THAT LOSS MAY HAVE BEEN THERE THIS WHOLE TIME. WE DIDN'T SEE IT REALLY UNTIL WE STARTED PICKING UP, I THINK MORE THE OPERATING BUDGET, BUT MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT AS WE GROW, THE CITY GROWS.
YOU HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE COMING IN, WE SHOULD EXPECT MORE PEOPLE.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MARKET TO ALL THESE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN DO YOU PUT SOMETHING OUT IN LIKE, SAY, THE WATER BILL OR DO YOU GET SOMETHING TO THOSE SALES OFFICES OF SUBDIVISIONS? WHAT'S YOUR PLAN? RIGHT.
SO WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE QUARTERLY ADVERTISEMENTS THAT GO OUT INTO THE WATER BILL THAT DO NOTE UPCOMING PROGRAMS, MEMBERSHIPS, OUR PLAYBOOK, WHICH INCLUDES OUR MEMBERSHIP BREAKDOWN, RENTALS, DIFFERENT SERVICE OFFERINGS BY THE DEPARTMENT, OR THAT THE DEPARTMENT OFFERS. SO WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
BUT ONE THING THAT I KNOW THAT THE CITY AS A WHOLE IS WORKING ON IS BASICALLY A NEWCOMER'S PACKET.
SO IT'S LIKE A FOLDER FOR EVERYONE THAT YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT TO COME IN HERE AND ACTIVATE YOUR WATER BILL AND SIGN UP FOR TRASH.
AND SO YOU WOULD GET A NEWCOMER'S PACKET OF ALL OF THIS INFORMATION RELATED TO CITY SERVICES. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE HOPE TO REALLY CAPTURE SOME OF THE NEW, SPECIFICALLY THE NEW INDIVIDUALS COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK ANOTHER THING IS JUST WORD OF MOUTH THROUGH OUR MULTITUDE OF PARTNERS.
I MEAN, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THEY HAVE ALLOWED US TO PUT PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL.
WE USED TO SEND HOME THE PLAYBOOKS WITH ALL ELEMENTARY AGE STUDENTS, BUT WE WEREN'T SEEING THE RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT.
SO WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT USERS, FOR INSTANCE, OUR SENIOR POPULATION.
WE KNOW THAT AN ELECTRONIC PLAYBOOK IS NOT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR INFORMATION.
SO THE TYPES OF THE MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY, WE GIVE THEM DIRECT MAILED LETTERS
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ON DIFFERENT UPCOMING PROGRAMS ABOUT ALL OF OUR SENIOR EVENTS AND OFFERINGS.SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT THE MARKET LOOKS LIKE, HOW WE WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. BUT WE'RE ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AS WELL TO TRY TO REACH DIFFERENT GROUPS. AND I'LL ADD THIS ONE'S A LITTLE FAR FOR ME.
I'LL ADD TO THAT A LITTLE BIT, TOO.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RETENTION AND SOME OF THE STRATEGIES WE TALKED ABOUT, POSSIBLY MAKING CHANGES, AS YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE THAT DO BUSINESS AND THINGS.
THERE'S REALLY TWO WAYS TO GENERATE A CUSTOMER BASE IN REVENUE, AND ONE IS THROUGH PROMOTION AND NEW CUSTOMER ACQUISITION, AND THE OTHER IS THROUGH RETAINING EXISTING CUSTOMERS. AND SO BY THE OPERATIONAL CHANGES WE'RE MAKING ARE ABOUT RETAINING OUR CUSTOMER BASE. AND WITH THAT, IT JUST INCREASES A NATURAL REFERRAL NETWORK.
SO FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON EXTERNAL MARKETING, A DOLLAR KIND OF INVESTED IN TOWARDS RETENTION IT'S TYPICALLY GOING TO BE A BETTER SALE THAN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO THE MARKETING IS SUPPLEMENTAL, BUT A LOT OF THE OPERATIONAL CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO AFFECT LIKE HOW WELL, NOT JUST ON THE THE MEMBERSHIP AND FACILITY OPERATIONS SIDE, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT PROGRAM PARTICIPATION AS A RETENTION BASE TOO.
AS WE WANT THEM TO PARTICIPATE WITH PROGRAMS WITH US TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND ESTABLISH OURSELVES AS HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT CUSTOMER AND THAT BASE.
AND THE MORE WE DO THAT, THE MORE ORGANIC SALES WE'LL HAVE THROUGH REFERRAL NETWORKS AND THINGS, AND THEN NEW ACQUISITION WOULD BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH MARKETING.
SO. THAT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE I GUESS AT WORK WE TALK ABOUT PATIENT RETENTION AND WE TALK ABOUT CAPTURE RATE AS WELL.
AND SO LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT LIKE SO MANY WAYS TO RETAIN.
AND SO IF YOU CAN JUST GO BACK AND YOU CAN REALIZE THAT YOU'RE SEEING SOMEONE WHO IS A CONSTITUENT OF OUR BUSINESS HERE, YEARS, EVEN YEARS OUT, THAT'S QUITE INTERESTING.
SO ONE THING THAT CAME TO MIND IS LIKE WHAT WE DO A LOT.
WE COMMUNICATE WITH CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF PEOPLE BASED ON AGE.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE SOMEONE OLDER, OF COURSE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, MAIL OUTS ARE GOING TO BE GREAT. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE GUYS WHO ARE LIKE, WE COLLECT EVERYONE'S EMAIL ADDRESSES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE SEND OUT LIKE EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS TO THE ANGLETON REC PARTICIPANTS OR NOT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GREAT.
AND WE ALSO DO LIKE NEWSLETTERS AND DO THE NEWSLETTERS AND ALL THAT.
JUST DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THIS TO JUST RETAIN PATIENTS, I MEAN, RETAIN SO WHEN WE RAN THE REC CENTER SURVEY, WE HAD 122 PARTICIPANTS, WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD SURVEY RESPONSE.
IT WAS POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND DIRECTLY EMAILED TO OUR MEMBERSHIP BASE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED WITH US IN THE LAST YEAR.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO POSSIBLY INFRINGE ON PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN HERE FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO BASICALLY, LOOK AT THE PAST YEAR AND ONLY PROBABLY 10 TO 12 PEOPLE WERE FROM SOCIAL MEDIA LINKS, THE REST OF THEM WERE FROM DIRECT CONTACT.
SO I THINK THAT KIND OF INDICATES THAT IF WE DID MOVE IN MORE OF A NOT TO BE, YOU DON'T WANT TO SPAM ANYBODY. BUT IF WE MOVED MORE TO LIKE AN INTENTIONAL EMAIL CAMPAIGN TO SUPPLEMENT SOCIAL MEDIA AND THINGS LIKE THAT KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MAY REACH CERTAIN PEOPLE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RESPONDENT RATE, IT'S SURPRISING ON HOW MUCH RESPONSE THROUGH EMAIL IS FROM SENIORS.
AND SO SOMETIMES THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT DIGITAL DOESN'T WORK FOR SENIORS.
I JUST THINK IT'S JUST REALLY THE RIGHT DIGITAL AND HOW WELL THEY'RE ENGAGED WITH US, SO I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO, YEAH, YEAH, I THINK SO BECAUSE LIKE WE HAVE LIKE NEW PATIENTS WHO COME IN, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING ON THE PORTAL, SO WE GET THEM AWAY FROM PAPERS AND EVERYTHING.
SO AND SOME OF THE GUYS WAS 65 AND 60 YEAR OLD'S AND SUCH LIKE THAT.
YEAH, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH JUST DO IT ON EMAILS AND SUCH.
SO YOU'D BE SURPRISED THE NUMBER OF GUYS WHO COME IN WITH THINGS ALREADY FILLED OUT.
SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT. DO Y'ALL DO ANY KIND OF LIKE IN THE PARKS OR IN THE REC CENTER QR CODES POSTED FOR PEOPLE TO GET ALL THE PARK INFORMATION, JUST LIKE IF THEY'RE THERE AT THE PLAYGROUND OF FREEDOM PARK OR PLAYING A GAME, THEY CAN JUST WALK BY AND SEE WHAT THE PARK HAS TO OFFER? WE HAVE NOT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PARK PROJECTS, SO WE'VE USED FOUR BY FOUR SIGNS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE AT MARKET DAYS OR DIFFERENT SPECIAL EVENTS TO INFORM PEOPLE BOTH IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH THAT WE HAVE PARK PROJECTS GOING ON.
SO WE DID THAT WHEN WE WERE ERECTING OR INSTALLING DICKEY PLAYGROUND.
AND SO THAT'S HOW WE HAVE USED QR CODES IN THE PAST.
I THINK WE'VE ALSO USED IT DURING OUR STORY WALK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO.
WE ARE WORKING ON AS PART OF THE PARK STANDARDS KIND OF WHAT OUR SIGNAGE IN OUR PARK LOOKS LIKE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER ADDING.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW UNTIL PROBABLY LAST SUMMER Y'ALL EVEN HAD A FACEBOOK PAGE.
[LAUGHTER]. SO I THERE WAS A TON OF INFORMATION ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE AND IT'S MOSTLY CURRENT.
SO, YEAH, THAT IS SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH SOCIAL MEDIA MARKETING IS DIFFERENT GENERATIONS INTERACT WITH SOCIAL MEDIA DIFFERENTLY, AND SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO,
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TO EFFECTIVELY MARKET TO ALL GENERATIONS YOU HAVE TO BE ON ALL THE PLATFORMS THAT ARE ON.SO IT BECOMES VERY CUMBERSOME TO MANAGE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT MENTIONING THE QR CODES, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY TRIED TO MAKE THOSE WORK FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND THEY JUST NEVER REALLY TOOK OFF.
BUT DURING COVID, EVERYBODY GOT USED TO QR CODES.
AND SO NOW YOU'RE SEEING A LOT MORE EFFECTIVENESS WITH QR CODES WHEN IT'S PROBABLY FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS OLD THAT IT'S BEEN TRYING TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT REAL HEADWAY.
BUT NOW EVERYBODY WHO'S EVER BEEN TO A RESTAURANT AND SCAN THEIR QR CODE ON THE TABLE IS USED TO IT. SO IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF EXPAND ON THAT FOR SURE.
OK, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW ABOUT QR CODES, SO IF, ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO TAKE JUST ONE MINUTE. I KNOW THIS IS A LONG MEETING, BUT OK, SO AS YOU UPDATE THE QR CODE, IT'S ONE THING IF YOU'VE GOT A MENU AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO CHANGE FOR A WHILE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT IT OUT THERE, BOOM.
BUT IF YOU THEN HAVE TO CHANGE IT, DON'T YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE THUMBPRINT? SO THE QR CODE DOESN'T HAVE TO CHANGE.
YOU CAN CHANGE THE WHEREVER THE DESTINATION IS IF YOU CHANGE THE DATA THAT'S ON THE DESTINATION. SO IF YOU HAVE ONE QR CODE THAT GOES TO THE SAME DESTINATION, YOU CAN ALWAYS KEEP THAT OPEN.
AND SO IF IT'S TO MAKE OUR PARKS WEBSITE, THAT MAY NOT CHANGE VERY MUCH.
BUT WE COULD HAVE A WEBSITE WHERE IT'S DYNAMIC, LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW THAT CHANGES ON A MONTHLY BASIS, SO THE QR CODE NEVER CHANGES.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF APPROACHING THAT.
BUT YEAH, SURE. BECAUSE WHEN YOU JUST SAID THAT, I WAS LIKE, YEAH, BUT THEN IF THE UNDERLYING INFORMATION NEEDS TO UPDATE, I WAS LIKE, DO YOU CHANGE THE CODE OR CHANGE THAT WHERE IT'S GOING? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ANY VALUE.
BUT OF THE ADDED BONUS, YOU CAN DO CUSTOM DESIGN OR QR CODES.
SO WE COULD DO A QR CODE THAT'S A DIGITAL IMAGE OF OUR CITY BRANDING IF WE WANT TO.
SO IT ACTUALLY MATCHES OR IF WE WANTED TO HAVE IT, A PARK THAT LOOKS LIKE A TREE AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
TO IMAGERY THAT YOU WANT TO DO AS WELL.
SURE. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY OUR OFFICE SECRETS OR THING.
OH, OK. [LAUGHTER] WELL, I THINK MY WIFE IS REALLY GOT TO BE [INAUDIBLE] THIS.
BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR EXAM ROOMS, WE HAVE QR CODES.
AND SO IT TAKES YOU TO A PARTICULAR PLACE WHERE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE OTHER DISEASES THAT AFFECT, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMIC CONDITIONS WHICH AFFECT EYE DISEASES, EYES, AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND SO WE ALSO HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE WITH QR CODES.
SO LIKE WE MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU CAN TAKE THAT CODE AND IT'LL BE THE SAME, BUT YOU CAN JUST CHANGE THE INFORMATION WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BASICALLY.
SEE, I LOVE LEARNING NEW STUFF.
SORRY. ONE THING THAT I WILL MENTION ABOUT ADVERTISING, TOO, THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT IN THE BUDGET AND IS ACTUALLY IN THE BUDGET FOR TOURISM THIS YEAR IS IT'S CALLED THE [INAUDIBLE] SIGN. ELLEN, YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS AT ROTARY TODAY, BUT IT'S BASICALLY AN ELECTRONIC DISPLAY SIGN THAT'LL GO DOWNTOWN THAT YOU CAN SELL AD SPACE FOR.
BUT IT ALSO HAS LIKE COMMUNITY UPDATES.
IT COULD HAVE TRANSIT INFORMATION, EVENT INFORMATION THAT'S GOING ON, AND ONE WILL BE INSTALLED RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HERE SOON.
ONE OF THE PROPOSALS IS TO PUT THEM AT SOME OF OUR SPORTS COMPLEXES.
SO BATES PARK, FREEDOM PARK AND ANGLETON THE B.G.
PECK SOCCER COMPLEX SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE LARGE EVENTS OR TOURNAMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, PEOPLE ARE OR WE HAVE A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC THAT THEY'RE LEARNING ABOUT ALL OF THE CITY SERVICES AND OFFERINGS AND THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.
SO THE THINGS THAT SORT OF FLOW.
YEAH, THAT WILL SWIPE THROUGH DIFFERENT FLIERS AND INFORMATION.
YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO UPDATE PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE REC CENTER, DID YOU NOT THINK ABOUT ANYTHING RATHER THAN, THAT SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE A CHANGE? YOU KNOW, IT GETS BORING AND IT COULD BE REARRANGING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVER COME INTO PLAY.
SOME YEAH. SO I MEAN, AND I THINK WE BOTH PROBABLY HAVE EXAMPLES OF THIS, BUT JUST TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT. YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL PHILOSOPHY WOULD BE, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OUR HOUSE IN ORDER AND THINGS LIKE THAT BEFORE TRYING TO EXPAND TOO MUCH INTO SOMETHING NEW.
BUT EVEN ITEMS SIMPLY LIKE, SAY, I'LL JUST USE A FITNESS CENTER AS AN EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO ADAPT AND CHANGE TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT ESSENTIALLY DOES THE SAME ITEM IT DOES PRESENT AS A NEW PRODUCT OR A NEW IF IT'S VISIBLE ENOUGH, EVEN IF IT'S EXISTING THINGS ARE MODIFYING HOW WE'RE OFFERING EXISTING THINGS, PEOPLE WILL ENGAGE IN IT BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT AND NEW.
SO IT MAY JUST BE HOW WE PRESENT THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
BUT CERTAINLY, IF THERE'S THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE TO BE ABLE TO ADD AS FACILITY FEATURES AND THINGS, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OR ARE WILLING TO KIND OF LOOK AT. BUT JUST LOOKING AT OUR DATA AND THINGS AND LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE SEATED IN THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS PHYSICAL LOCATION AND THEN ALSO OUR USAGE TRENDS, THE FACT THAT WE SEE MOST OF OUR FAMILY USAGE TREND END WHEN THE SCHOOL YEAR GOES IN WOULD INDICATE THAT
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MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE THINGS THAT ENGAGE FAMILY MEMBERS OF ALL AGES DURING PEAK OPERATING HOURS SO THAT THEY DON'T CHOOSE TO LEAVE COME SEPTEMBER TO SCHOOL YEAR START.LET'S ENGAGE THEM. NOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO RETAIN 100 PERCENT OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LEAVE.
BUT IF WE CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE A LITTLE BIT, THAT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT ATTRACTS DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS SO THE FAMILY CAN MAINTAIN ENGAGED.
AND SO THERE COULD BE FEATURES OR THERE COULD BE PROGRAMS OR OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, FOR SURE. SO, YEAH, AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT KYLE IS SAYING.
THERE ARE SOME FACILITY EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND SOME THAT WE CAN DO VERY EASILY, AND SOME THAT WILL TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO CORRECT.
BUT CHRIS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EXPANSION OF THE FACILITY OFTEN.
AND I THINK LIKE I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'LL BE GOING OUT FOR AN OVERALL PARK AND RECREATION SURVEY TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WILL BE REVOLVED AROUND JUST DIFFERENT FACILITY EXPANSION, LIKE THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.
WHAT TYPE OF AMENITIES. SO WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA FROM THAT SURVEY WHAT THOSE AMENITIES ARE. AND IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU ALREADY SEE IN THE SURVEY, WHICH TALKS ABOUT HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL CHILD CARE OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH KYLE JUST MENTIONED, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE CHILD CARE AT THE FACILITY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT JUST DUE TO THE EXTRA INSURANCE AND POTENTIAL LIABILITY THERE, BUT YOU COULD BE PROGRAMING DIFFERENTLY.
YOU COULD BE OFFERING OTHER AMENITIES THAT A CHILD COULD BE UTILIZING WHILE A PARENT IS UTILIZING THE FACILITY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS OR WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, IN ADDITION TO PEOPLE IN THE SURVEY, MENTIONED EXPANSION OF THE WEIGHT AND CARDIO AREA.
I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE EXPANSION.
PREVIOUSLY, ABLC'S TALKED ABOUT A TRAIL OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND EXPANSION OF THE NATATORIUM.
AND I THINK THOSE WOULD ALL, COULD BE SUPPORTED, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TYPES OF MEMBERSHIPS THAT WE SEE BEING SOLD.
YOUR FAMILY MEMBERSHIPS, YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES OR NEW AMENITIES COMING IN THAT WOULD SERVE THOSE FAMILIES.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO AS A CAPITAL EXPANSION PROJECT.
OF COURSE, ONCE WE GET OUR NICE LITTLE PATIO WITH THOSE WONDERFUL LITTLE LIGHTS ON, SOMEBODY DRIVES BY AT NIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO GO.
JUST LIKE IN RETAIL IS ALWAYS TELLING YOU, YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH PER SQUARE FOOT YOU CAN GET OUT OF THE SPACE BUT IT'S LIKE THE GYM THAT WE HAVE.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS YOU HAD, BUT WHEN WE BUILT IT, THAT FACILITY, THAT'S BEEN WHATEVER, 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
THE GYM WAS A BIG COST AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH USE YOU GET.
IS IT? DO YOU THINK A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE MEMBERS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE GYM? THE GYMNASIUM OR THE FITNESS CENTER AREA? SO A LOT OF OUR YOUTH USAGE AND A LOT OF OUR DAY PASS USAGE, ESPECIALLY ON WEEKENDS, IS RELATED TO LIKE GYM, BASKETBALL AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO OFFERS OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMING. SO I9 SPORTS AND VOLLEYBALL AND THINGS.
SO THERE COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT REVENUE GENERATION.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FACILITY USE AND REVENUE GENERATION, THAT'S NON MEMBERSHIP RELATED LIKE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS PROGRAMING IN AN APPROPRIATE BALANCE. SO WE'RE NOT ALIENATING MEMBERS FROM AVAILABLE OPTIONS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT A PROGRAM AT OUR GYM WHERE OUR MEMBERS AND GUESTS CAN'T USE THEM BECAUSE THEN WE LOSE OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
WE JUST WANT TO STRIKE THE APPROPRIATE BALANCE TO OFFER THINGS WHEN IT'S MAYBE NOT HEAVY UTILIZATION TIMES TO BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THOSE THINGS.
SO I THINK HAVING A GYM, ESPECIALLY A FULL SIZE COMPETITION SIZE GYM, IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ASSET. IF YOU HAD A SMALLER BASKETBALL COURT THAN YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT EXTRA REVENUE GENERATION.
SO HAVING THE FULL SIZE SIX BASKET GYM AND ALSO OPTIONS FOR VOLLEYBALL AND OTHER SPORTS DOES. IF I WAS GOING TO BUILD A FACILITY FROM SCRATCH, I'D ALMOST ALWAYS INCLUDE A FULL SIZE COMPETITION GYM.
AND THAT WAS THE SAME DISCUSSION WE HAD BACK THEN GYM WILL BRING IN DIFFERENT PEOPLE MIC] KIDS AFTER SCHOOL. BUT DO WE HAVE ANY, ORGANIZED BASKETBALL LEAGUES THAT USE IT THAT WOULD BRING IN MORE PEOPLE OR DO WE NOT RIGHT NOW? NOT CURRENTLY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE EXPLORING, AND SO THAT'S.
YEAH, WITH I9, AND SO WE DO HAVE OR ARE AWARE OF SOME YOUTH BASKETBALL ORGANIZATIONS HERE LOCALLY. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW COMPETITIVE OR RECREATIONAL THEY ARE IN THE REC WORLD.
WE FEEL OUR JOB IS TO PROVIDE THOSE AVENUES FOR RECREATIONAL INTRODUCTORY SPORTS SO THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING FROM SIX TO COMPETITIVE SELECT LEAGUES.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE SERVICE OFFERINGS THROUGH UPWARDS BASKETBALL.
SO OFTEN WE TRY NOT TO COMPETE WITH THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND WE HAVEN'T YET DETERMINED IF THEY ARE LOCALLY HERE ARE SELECT TYPE OF ORGANIZATION BASKETBALL ORGANIZATION.
SO THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF FIT THAT IN THE MIDDLE.
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YOU KNOW, RECREATIONAL BASKETBALL CAN LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN UPWARDS.THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.
AND SO IF WE CAN KIND OF FILL THAT MIDDLE GAP WITH I9 SPORTS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EXPLORING THIS YEAR.
AND THEN JUST IN ADDITION TO THAT TOO, LIKE JUST LOOKING AT FACILITY USAGE TRENDS OR WHEN IT MAY BE OPEN OR NOT OPEN KIND OF THINGS, THERE'S ALSO SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITIES IF WE WANTED TO USE IT, LIKE LEVERAGE IT FOR RENTAL INCOME AS WELL.
EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A GYM FOR EITHER BASKETBALL PRACTICE, VOLLEYBALL PRACTICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANT TO ALIENATE YOUR MEMBERSHIP OR YOUR DAY PASS USERS, BUT GYM RENTAL AND USAGE COMES AT A PREMIUM AND EVEN MAYBE MORE SO THAN SOME OF OUR SPORTS FIELDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT'S AN INDOOR PREMIUM SPACE.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL WAYS THAT CAN SERVE US BEYOND WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW.
WELL, IN PUTTING THAT CURTAIN UP, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS YOU DID WAS SO WONDERFUL BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T HAVE EFFECTIVELY TWO THINGS GOING ON WITHOUT IT.
AND NOW THAT WE HAVE IT, YOU CAN HAVE TWO THINGS GOING ON.
RIGHT. SO THEY CAN STILL PLAY BASKETBALL ON ONE SIDE AND DO SOMETHING ELSE ON THE OTHER.
YEP. AND ONE THING WE CAN CONSIDER AND WE'VE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED AT MARKET DAYS IS A COUNTER, SO WE COULD CONSIDER DOING THAT FOR OUR GYMNASIUM AND THEN ALSO OUR WEIGHT ROOM SO THAT WE CAN GET A BETTER IDEA OF THE DAY PASS AND MEMBERSHIP USERS AND WHO'S ACTUALLY GOING WHERE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO DOING.
[LAUGHTER] WHAT I THINK WE ARE.
DID YOU ASK FOR A MOTION? NO. OH I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I'M OPPOSED. [LAUGHTER] I WAS GOING TO SAY FRANCES WOULD GO, WELL, NOW WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.