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    [00:00:01]

    ALL RIGHT. IT IS 5:32 [INAUDIBLE] DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON

    [DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

    MINUTES FROM REGULAR [INAUDIBLE] MEETING ON FEBRUARY 14, 2022.

    I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.

    [1. Discussion and possible action on minutes from Regular Called meeting on February 14, 2022.]

    SECOND.

    I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 14TH MEETING.

    ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

    OPPOSED SAME SIGN MOTION CARRIES.

    [2. Discussion on Park and Recreation Department updates.]

    ITEM NUMBER TWO DISCUSSION OF ART AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT UPDATES.

    YES. SO THESE ARE JUST UPDATES FOR YOU ALL REGARDING SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROJECTS STAFF, LEADERSHIP, STAFF IS WORKING ON.

    SO VETERANS PARK, RFQ WAS ADVERTISED IN DECEMBER.

    WE CLOSED IN FEBRUARY AT THE JOINT MEETING WITH ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION.

    WE DID INFORM [INAUDIBLE] CONSULTANTS THAT THEY WOULD BE THE FIRM SELECTED AS FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE. BUT THIS IS NOT A PRIORITY AT THIS TIME FOR EITHER THE PARKS BOARD OR ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION.

    HOWEVER, ONE NEW UPDATE THAT WE DO HAVE THAT I SHOULD MENTION IS THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO PURSUE A GRANT FOR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION TO ADDRESS THIS PARK IF WE SO CHOOSE.

    SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY COME UP IN THE FUTURE AS A POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE.

    ON SOUTHSIDE PARK LAND ACQUISITION, WE DID CLOSE ON THE MAIN PARCEL OF PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE ADDRESS 301 CEMETERY ROAD ON FEBRUARY 8TH.

    AND WE ARE STILL PURSUING SOME ADDITIONAL PARCELS, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK AT THIS TIME. DOWN TENNIS COURT STAFF HAS.

    SO YOU SAID. SORRY.

    PUBLICLY WHERE THOSE ADDITIONAL PARCELS ARE IN RELATION TO THE PARK THAT.

    WE HAVE ONLY BEEN GIVEN AUTHORITY TO PURSUE THEM AT THIS TIME.

    WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN ANY OTHER AUTHORITY TO MENTION THOSE RIGHT.

    DOWNTOWN OR EXCUSE ME, DOWNING TENNIS COURT STATS ON THE DRAFT AND OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT TO RANDALL LAW OFFICE. SO THAT IS BEING REVIEWED CURRENTLY.

    WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF APRIL FOR JOINT USE FOR THE TENNIS COURTS AND RENOVATIONS.

    SO ABLC HAS DEVOTED $30,000 FOR RENOVATIONS.

    AISD HAS ALSO COMMITTED UPWARDS OF I THINK IT WAS AROUND 70,000 IN ORDER TO RENOVATE THIS AREA. AND WE ARE ALSO PURSUING COLLABORATIVELY A USTA GRANT FOR THESE RENOVATIONS.

    SO THOSE COSTS FOR ABLC AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MAY COME DOWN.

    SO WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM USTA.

    WE WON'T START ANY OF THAT WORK UNTIL WE HAVE AN EXECUTED IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT.

    PARKS DEPARTMENT SURVEY AND THE MUNICIPAL POOL PARK SURVEY.

    SO THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY SENT OUT AND PUBLISHED LAST FRIDAY.

    WHAT THAT IS IN REGARDS TO IS JUST REALLY AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY NEEDS FOR THE DIRECTION OF THE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF OUR FINANCIAL RESOURCES ARE BEING SPENT WHERE THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE THEM.

    THIS IS LITERALLY A MIMIC OF WHAT WENT OUT FOR OUR MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN BACK IN 2018. IT WAS THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2019, BUT IT IS THE SAME SURVEY, IN ADDITION TO SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, REVOLVED AROUND THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE AND WHAT FOLKS WANT TO DO WITH THAT. NOW THAT WE HAVE A DEDICATED LAND PARCEL FOR A SOUTH SIDE PARK DEVELOPMENT.

    SO WE THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME CHANGES WITH INPUT AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE OPEN TO DOING WITH THE MUNICIPAL POOL SITE SINCE WE'VE RECENTLY ACQUIRED NEW LAND.

    AND SO WE'LL CLOSE THAT SURVEY.

    AND THE NEXT WEEK OR SO WE'LL TAKE THOSE RESULTS TO CITY COUNCIL.

    SPECIAL EVENT PERMANENT WE HAVE SO WE HAVE A MASS GATHERINGS PERMIT THAT IS AND IS CODIFIED AS IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE CURRENTLY.

    WE'RE LOOKING TO REVISE THAT ORDINANCE.

    WE JUST RECENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT REPEALING THE MASS GATHERINGS PERMIT ORDINANCE AND INSTEAD OF REPLACING IT WITH A SPECIAL EVENT ORDINANCE, JUST REPLACING IT WITH A SPECIAL EVENT POLICY THAT WE MANAGE INTERNALLY BECAUSE THAT MAY CHANGE AS A CITY GROWS.

    AND SO WE'RE NOT SURE THAT CODIFYING IT IS THE CORRECT ROUTE.

    SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT CURRENTLY.

    BUT KYLE DID DO A LOT OF WORK IN PUTTING TOGETHER A FAIRLY LENGTHY AND COMPREHENSIVE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT PROCESS.

    SO WE WILL KEEP YOU GUYS UPDATED ON THAT PROJECT.

    [INAUDIBLE] SELF EVALUATION TRANSITION PLAN THAT DID KICK OFF WITH KINLEY HORN IN JANUARY. THIS IS A VERY LONG PROJECT.

    WE WON'T SEE RESULTS FROM THIS OR COMPILATION OR RESULTS UNTIL SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER. THE TIMELINE IS ON OUR PROJECT'S WEB PAGE.

    YOU CAN SEE THAT PROJECT SCHEDULE, BUT WE HAVE HAD [INAUDIBLE] COME OUT.

    WHO IS THE SUBCONTRACTOR FOR KINLEY HORN THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING SOME OF THE MEASUREMENTS

    [00:05:03]

    AND FIELD WORK FOR ADA ACCESSIBILITY AS IT RELATES TO SIDEWALKS, FACILITIES, OUR PARKS.

    SO THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN OUT TO THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, THE PARKS THAT WERE DESIGNATED, AND NOW THEY'RE WORKING ON THE SIDEWALKS.

    SO YOU MIGHT SEE THEM IN AND AROUND TOWN.

    AND THE RECREATION DIVISION, RECREATION CENTER RENOVATIONS, WE HAVE COMPLETED SEVERAL ONE THAT WAS BUDGETED THIS YEAR.

    A COUPLE THAT WERE BUDGETED THIS YEAR, SCOREBOARD AND ADA ACCESSIBLE DOORS AND TO OUR SENIOR CORRIDOR OR MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS, THOSE HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.

    WE ARE ALSO WAITING ON INSTALLATION OF DAMPERS FOR THE NATATORIUM AND ROOM DIVIDER FOR OUR MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, A CURRENT ROOM DIVIDERS FALLING APART.

    SO LUCKILY WE DID BUDGET FUNDS FOR THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THAT IS ON ORDER READY TO BE REPLACED. WE ALSO HAVE WEIGHT ROOM EQUIPMENT THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE INSTALLED AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. RECREATION CENTER PLAZA.

    THOSE THAT TRAVEL ALONG VALDEREZ MAY HAVE SEEN THE GREAT IMPROVEMENT WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE PLAZA WALL.

    WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THOSE RENOVATIONS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL TABLES, UMBRELLAS, STRAND LIGHTS AND WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THE EXISTING WHAT IS REMAINING OF THE WALL, THE LEDGE TO KIND OF FINISH THAT OFF AND PROFESSIONALIZE THE LOOK A LITTLE BIT.

    SO YOU SHOULD SEE THAT NOW THAT MOWING SCHEDULES, MOWING HAS PICKED UP FOR OUR PARK SIZE, WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET IN SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS AS WE CAN.

    AS TIME ALLOWS EVENTS AND PROGRAMS, STAFF IS PREPARING FOR SUMMER OPERATIONS, INCLUDING A YOUTH TRACK. WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT SENIOR PROGRAMS GOING ON AND WE ARE TRYING TO FINALIZE A CONTRACT WITH I9 SPORTS, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP US LAUNCH YOUTH VOLLEYBALL AND YOUTH FLAG FOOTBALL IN THE AREA.

    SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

    THEY WILL BE HOSTING. WE HAVE A TENTATIVE SCHEDULE FOR SOME CAMPS AND LEAGUES THIS SUMMER AND FALL.

    RECREATION REVENUE AND OPERATIONS.

    SO AT THE LAST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WE PRESENTED A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION ABOUT POTENTIAL WAYS TO INCREASE REVENUE FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.

    SOME OF THOSE ARE TIED TO OPERATIONAL DEFICIENCIES.

    SO THOSE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK TO ABLC NEXT MONDAY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING INVOLVED IN THAT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ATTEND THAT MEETING.

    BUT SOME OF THE CHANGES MAY INCLUDE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF MEMBERSHIP OFFERINGS WE HAVE CURRENTLY WE HAVE WHAT WAS IT, OVER 28 OR 34.

    OVER 34 DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

    SO WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THAT, STREAMLINE IT, MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR THE USER TO MANAGE THEIR MEMBERSHIP.

    OTHER THINGS INCLUDE JUST FACILITY RENOVATIONS, HOURS OF OPERATION, TRENDS OF USE, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO MORE INFORMATION AT THE ABLC MEETING IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

    WE'RE TRYING TO ROLL OUT THOSE CHANGES OR BEGIN TRANSITIONING THOSE CHANGES THIS MONTH IN PREPARATION FOR OUR PEAK SEASON THIS SUMMER, WHICH TYPICALLY PICKS UP IN MAY.

    I9 SPORTS I JUST MENTIONED THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON EXECUTING THOSE AGREEMENTS AND OUR PARKS DIVISION FOR BATES PARK, THE PAVILION.

    WE CANNOT GET OUR OFFICERS OUT THERE UNTIL THE END OF MAY.

    SO WE ARE SCHEDULED FOR MAY TO HAVE THAT CORE RESURFACED.

    SO IT WILL BE, WE'LL HAVE A COLORED SURFACING OUT THERE.

    BASKETBALL GOALS ARE IN PLACE, LIGHTING IS COMPLETE.

    WE ARE ALSO WAITING ON MASONRY TO BE PUT ON THE FOOTINGS OF THAT PAVILION.

    ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN BATES PARK ARE FILLED FIVE LIGHTS.

    THOSE WERE COMPLETED LAST WEEK.

    AND WE HAVE ALSO COLLECTED SOME PRICING FOR A REPLACEMENT SPINNER AT BATES PLAYGROUND, WHICH WE HOPE TO PURSUE THIS YEAR.

    BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

    A LOT OF OUR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT PROVIDERS OR VENDORS, WE'RE SEEING MAJOR DELAYS IN MATERIAL. SO IF WE CAN'T EVEN GET IT TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, THEN WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO PURCHASE THAT COMPONENT.

    [INAUDIBLE] SOCCER COMPLEX.

    WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO CLEAN OUT CULVERTS AND DITCHES TO HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE OUT AT [INAUDIBLE] SOCCER COMPLEX.

    AND SOME OF YOU HAVE GONE OUT TO THE COMPLEX TO SEE OUR NEWLY INSTALLED PLAYGROUND.

    IT WE WERE GOING FOR A THEME THAT LOOKED LIKE SOCCER BALLS, BUT APPARENTLY IT'S BEEN COINED AS SPACESHIP, MORE FUTURISTIC LOOKING TYPE OF PLAYGROUND BY SOME SOME OF OUR KIDDOS THAT PLAY ON PLAY OUT THERE.

    LASTLY, PARK STANDARDS.

    KINLEY HORN, A SEPARATE GROUP FROM THE ADA GROUP, IS WORKING ON OUR PARKS AND RECREATION STANDARDS MANUAL.

    WE JUST RECEIVED 90% COMPLETION LAST FRIDAY.

    STAFF IS WORKING THROUGH ANY LAST REVISIONS.

    ABLC FUNDED THIS PROJECT SO THEY WILL SEE THE 90% PROJECT AT THEIR MEETING NEXT MONDAY.

    [00:10:06]

    AGAIN, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE AGENDA WHEN IT'S POSTED OR COME TO THE MEETING AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO ALSO SUBMIT COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

    WE'LL MAKE LAST MINUTE REVISIONS BEFORE IT'S APPROVED AND APRIL OR THEY SEND US THE 100% COMPLETION AT THE END OF APRIL AND PREPARATION FOR PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL IN MAY.

    DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UPDATES? KYLE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT AGE GROUP IT GOES UP TO? THEY HAVE SOME PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE YOU'RE NEW WEIGHT EQUIPMENT COMING? IS THAT PART OF OUR LEASE AGREEMENT OR IS THIS SOMETHING SO? WE START DOING A LEASE AGREEMENT PROBABLY ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.

    SO THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT PURCHASE.

    WE WILL OWN THE EQUIPMENT.

    AND SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN FUNDED.

    CORRECT. ALL RIGHT THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT TWO [INAUDIBLE] ON THREE DISCUSSION

    [3. Discussion and possible action on select team field usage at Angleton sport complexes.]

    AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON SELECTING FIELD USAGE AT ANGLETON SPORT COMPLEXES.

    YES. SO AS YOU GUYS MAY RECALL, WE BROUGHT THE ANNUAL ATHLETIC SPORTS AGREEMENT TO YOU GUYS AT THE FEBRUARY 14TH MEETING.

    THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FROM THE ASSOCIATIONS WHO WERE PRESENT THAT EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS RELATED TO SELECT TEAM USAGE.

    THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF RECEIVED WAS TO INCREASE ANNUAL FIELD MAINTENANCE EXPENSE LINE ITEM FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WE'VE DONE IN YOUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET.

    YOU'LL SEE THAT REFLECTED AND ALSO REINSTATE LIGHT SCHEDULING SOFTWARE FOR THESE SPORTS COMPLEXES. SO FREEDOM PARK IS ONE THAT ALREADY HAD THE UNITS IN PLACE.

    IT JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE SUBSCRIPTION TO THE SOFTWARE.

    SO WE ARE WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THAT WORKING TOWARDS THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR.

    OTHER FACILITIES LIKE BATES IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO BUDGET FOR TO INSTALL ON ALL OF THE FIELDS. SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION.

    SO WE WANT TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE, BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME CONCERNS.

    I THINK I'VE HAD ABOUT TWO EMAILS FROM, I BELIEVE, ANGLETON RESIDENTS THAT ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE CHARGES THAT ARE BEING ENFORCED FOR SELECT TEAM USE.

    SO WE JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION AS A PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

    WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE REGARDING TEAM USAGE AND AS IT RELATES TO SELECT TEAMS THAT'S ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET AND IT JUST REVIEWS WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SCHEDULE TEAMS WHEN WE CHARGE.

    AND IT ALSO REFERS YOU TO OUR FEE SCHEDULE, WHICH RELAYS BACK TO WHAT WE CHARGE FOR LIGHTS AND NO LIGHTS.

    SO WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

    WE INFORMED THOSE RESIDENTS THAT WERE CONCERNED THAT THEY WERE WELCOME TO COME TO THIS PARKS BOARD MEETING TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS.

    I DON'T SEE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE EMAILED ME, SO I WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

    SO THE CONCERN WHEN WE HAVE A SPORTS GROUP IS WHEN THE BASEBALL ASSOCIATION, SOCCER, SOFTBALL WHATEVER, BUT WHEN THEY GET INTO THE SELECT SOCCER, SELECT SOFTBALL OR SELECT BASEBALL THAT'S OUTSIDE, OUR AGREEMENT IS TYPICALLY WITH THOSE TEAMS THAT ARE PART LIKE YOU GET THE AGREEMENT WILL LIST HOW MANY TEAMS OR WHATEVER.

    IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. SO WE HAVE LIKE A CHECKLIST OF INFORMATION THAT WE ARE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT US, INCLUDING LIKE THEIR TAX ID, THEIR LEAGUE SCHEDULE, THEIR LISTING OF TEAMS, THE SCHEDULE FOR THEIR PRACTICE AND GAMES.

    AND SO STUART'S BEEN PRETTY DILIGENT ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP AN EXCEL AND A GOOGLE EXCEL SPREADSHEET. SO WE UNDERSTAND THE LEAGUES CAN ADD ADDITIONAL GAMES, LIKE IF THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO HOST A TOURNAMENT, THEY JUST ARE REQUIRED TO INFORM US TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE OF THAT. AND SO THEY CAN DO THAT, PUT IT ON THE LEAGUE EXCEL SCHEDULE BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON.

    SO WE'RE WE'VE BEEN REALLY FLEXIBLE WITH THEM IN REGARDS TO SCHEDULING.

    SO AS LONG AS THE FIELDS ARE SCHEDULED THROUGH THE SPORTS ASSOCIATION, WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S THE RECREATION LEAGUE PLAY THAT IS USING THE FIELDS AT THE TIME.

    WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE SELECT TEAM OR NOT.

    AS YOU KNOW FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T GO OUT AND CHECK, OKAY, YOU'RE THIS COACH OR YOU REGISTERED WHO'S WHAT'S ON YOUR ROSTER.

    WE DON'T GO TO THAT DEGREE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

    SO WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT WE WILL EITHER GET COMPLAINTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS THAT THERE'S TEAMS UTILIZING THE FIELDS AT DIFFERENT TIMES THAT THEY HAVE NOT SCHEDULED, AT

    [00:15:05]

    WHICH POINT, WHEN IT COMES TO LIGHT FROM US, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THE ORDINANCE. AND THEN OFTEN WHAT HAPPENS IS STEWART GETS A CALL, HE GETS CALLED OUT TO THE FIELD, HE HAS TO ADDRESS IT RATHER THAN THE BOARD MEMBERS ADDRESSING IT DIRECTLY, WHICH THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO.

    STEWART DOES INTERVENE AT THAT TIME UPON REQUEST, BUT THAT HAS HAPPENED FREQUENTLY IN THE PAST YEAR. BUT SINCE WE'VE INCORPORATED THE DIRECTION THAT YOU GUYS GAVE US WITH RESPECT TO THE THE LIGHTS AND SCHEDULING THEM, WE HAVEN'T HAD NEAR AS MANY ISSUES.

    I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS OF NOT REALLY WANTING TO CHANGE THE AGREEMENTS. THERE'S NO HAPPY MEDIUM THAT THE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS HAVE FOUND.

    THEY WANT TO STILL MAINTAIN CONTROL OVER IT, SO THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US AND BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE.

    WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY WE'RE HAVING FEWER ISSUES, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED. SO OUR LIKE COST DURING THE REGULAR SEASON, LIKE WHAT THE.

    [INAUDIBLE] ASSOCIATION SIGN, DOES IT DOES THE SELECT TEAM SEASON GO ON BEYOND THE REGULAR SEASON? YEAH. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

    I WOULD IMAGINE.

    THERE'S NO SEASON [INAUDIBLE].

    WELL, AND I WILL SAY TO OUR FAMILY WALKS FREEDOM FAIRLY FREQUENTLY.

    AND BEFORE, FOR INSTANCE, ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE STARTED THEIR SEASON.

    IT WAS EARLIER IN THE YEAR, LET'S SAY DECEMBER IN JANUARY.

    THERE WERE TEAMS OUT THERE. SO I KNEW THAT THOSE WEREN'T ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE TEAMS BECAUSE THEY HADN'T STARTED THEIR SEASON.

    SO THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE KNOW AND WE CAN ADDRESS AT THAT TIME, BUT WE REALLY WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CONTROL OVER IT.

    MANAGING THE LIGHTS AND SCHEDULING THE LIGHTS IS WHAT HELP? BECAUSE IF YOU WANT LIGHTS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RESERVE FIELD USE.

    BUT UNLESS A BOARD MEMBER COMES AND TELLS US, HEY, WE'VE GOT A CONFLICT HERE, OUR TEAMS ARE TRYING TO PLAY AND THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE ON THE FIELD.

    WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S UTILIZING THE FIELD, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S WITHOUT LIGHTS.

    THE EMAILS THAT WERE SENT TO YOU, WHAT WAS THE SPECIFIC? IF YOU CAN GIVE ME THAT INFORMATION.

    SURE. SO WE HAD ONE THAT IT WAS IN REGARDS TO BATES FIELD.

    AND WE HAD A GENTLEMAN THAT WAS FRUSTRATED BECAUSE HE WENT TO GO PRACTICE ON A SATURDAY AND THE FIELDS WERE LOCKED WELL THE FIELDS WERE LOCKED BECAUSE AGSA WAS PREPPING THE FIELDS AND THEY HAD COMPLETELY PREPPED A FIELD AND IT WAS DESTROYED SOON AFTER, WHEN THEY WENT TO AN ADJACENT FIELD, SOMEONE WENT ON AND WENT TO PRACTICE AND THEY HAD JUST FILLED IN A MATERIAL THAT NEEDED TO, I GUESS, TIME TO SETTLE OR REALLY MAKE AN IMPACT.

    AND SO THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND REDO THE FIELD COMPLETELY.

    WELL, THE FOLLOWING IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE FOLLOWING SUNDAY OR EVEN THAT DAY.

    I CAN'T BE CERTAIN IT RAINED.

    SO THEN THEY HAD TO SHUT.

    THEY KEPT IT LOCKED BECAUSE THEY BECAUSE OF WEATHER.

    THEY DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE RUNNING UP THE FIELDS.

    AND IF YOU GUYS RECALL, EARLIER IN THE YEAR, WE HAD AN ISSUE WHERE THE FIELDS WERE OPEN AND WE HAD PEOPLE FLEEING THE INFIELD DIRT ON OUR PLAYGROUND, WHICH THEN BECAME AN ISSUE FOR PARK MAINTENANCE ALSO.

    AND SO WE SAID NOT A PROBLEM.

    KEEP THEM LOCKED. WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DRIES UP.

    WE'LL PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE REOPENED TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY CAN RESERVE USE AND THEY DID.

    SO WE EXPLAINED THAT TO THE RESIDENT.

    BUT ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND INQUIRIES WERE THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

    WHY ARE WE HAVING IT THEN BECAME ABOUT THE RENTAL FIELDS, RENTING THE FIELDS AND THE ORDINANCE. SO WE INFORM THEM OF THE ORDINANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO GO OUT THERE AND PLAY, IT'S IN AN AGREEMENT WITH ASSOCIATION.

    AND IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE ASSOCIATION LEAGUE PLAY, YOU NEED TO RESERVE THE FIELDS AT THE RECREATION CENTER.

    AND SO THAT WAS A CONCERN FOR HIM BECAUSE HE NEVER HEARD OF THAT HADN'T BEEN ENFORCED IN THE PAST.

    AND SO, AGAIN, I WELCOMED HIM TO COME TO THE PARKS BOARD TO EXPRESS SOME OF HIS CONCERNS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE ANY CHARGE RELATED TO USE OF THE FIELDS.

    AND THAT WAS BASICALLY THE SAME THING FOR THE SECOND ONE AS WELL.

    SO THE SECOND ONE, I BELIEVE IT WAS FREEDOM PARK.

    I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY.

    I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND CROSS REFERENCE THAT ONE.

    BUT IT WAS IT WAS A SIMILAR ISSUE.

    FIELD BEING LOCKED OR LIGHTS BEING IT WASN'T BEING LOCKED.

    I THINK IT WAS JUST THAT THEY KNEW THAT THEY HAD TO PAY TO RESERVE AND THAT THEY HAD A CONCERN WITH THAT. YES, SIR.

    [00:20:01]

    I HAVE 8 MINUTES BECAUSE I HAVE TO GET TO BG [INAUDIBLE] FOR SOCCER PRACTICE.

    I'LL HAVE KIDS WAITING ON ME.

    I DEBATED ON WHETHER OR NOT TO COME TALK TO YOU ALL, BUT I WANT TO REALLY MAKE SURE Y'ALL UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

    AND FULL DISCLOSURE, MY SON DOES PLAY SELECT BALL OUT OF FREEDOM, SO NOT TRYING TO HIDE THAT, BUT HE ALSO PLAYS LITTLE LEAGUE AS WELL.

    AND THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO HIM.

    AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAT ON PARK'S BOARD IN '08, CHRIS, YOU REMEMBER WE SAT THERE AND TALKED A LOT ABOUT SELECT TEAMS AND WE FELT THAT IT WAS A BUNCH OF KIDS COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY THAT WERE USING OUR OUR FIELDS.

    AND WE WANTED TO STOP THAT.

    AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY THE GIST OF WHY THAT ORDINANCE CAME TO BE THE WAY WE WROTE IT. BUT SINCE THEN, WHAT WHAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF IS, AT LEAST FOR MY SON'S TEAM, 85% OF THOSE KIDS, AT LEAST 85%, ALSO PLAY LITTLE LEAGUE AND ANGLETON AND THEY'RE ANGLETON KIDS. SO MOMS, DADS GO TO SCHOOL HERE, GREW UP AND THEY PAY TAXES AND SALES TAX HERE AND THEY'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

    SO THEY ALSO HAVE COACHES THAT ARE NOT PAID.

    THESE ARE KIDS OR COACHES THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING LIKE MYSELF, THAT ARE GOING OUT THERE AND JUST HELPING THESE KIDS GET BETTER.

    IT'S NOT THAT THIS TEAM IS BEING TREATED ANY DIFFERENTLY OTHER THAN THEY'RE NOT PLAYING IN A LEAGUE, A LITTLE LEAGUE GAME.

    THEY DON'T PLAY ANY OF THEIR GAMES HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SELECT TOURNAMENTS HERE IN THE ANGLETON AREA. ALL OF IT GOES UP TO HOUSTON, BUT THEY'RE PRACTICING HERE, THEY'RE GETTING BETTER. THEY'RE PLAYING IN LITTLE LEAGUE AS WELL.

    SO IT MAKES THE PLAY BETTER IN LITTLE LEAGUE.

    AND THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH THE ORDINANCE, AND NOW THAT I'M ON THIS SIDE OF THE FENCE, SEEING IT, I CAN TELL YOU WE MAKE A CONTRACT WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS.

    THE ASSOCIATIONS HAVE PRIORITY OF THOSE FIELDS, SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL AND SOCCER, FOR THAT MATTER. THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE SELECT TEAMS. SO WHERE WHERE COULD THEY GO? WHAT CAN THEY DO? THEY HAVE TO PLAY BY THE RULES AND RENT OUT THE FIELD.

    HOWEVER, THE LITTLE LEAGUE DOESN'T HAVE TO RENT FROM YOU AT ALL.

    THEY THEY GET TO JUST USE THE FIELDS, RAISE MONEY, AND SPEND IT ON WHATEVER THEY DEEM THAT THEY NEED FOR THAT THAT FIELD AREA, THE PLAY.

    BUT THEY ALSO DO THE MAINTENANCE RIGHT? YOU IN SOME ASPECTS, YES.

    BUT I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT THE SELECT TEAMS HAVE BEEN DOING MAINTENANCE TOO.

    I KNOW FOR ONE, WHEN WE GET OUT THERE, WE RAKE THE FIELDS.

    AND I KNOW THAT MY MY HEAD COACH HAS GOTTEN OUT THERE.

    HE'S ALSO ON THE BOARD.

    HE GOES AND GETS THE TRACTOR AND HE WILL PULL THE INFIELD WITH THE TRACTOR AND RAKE IT AND KEEP IT. THE OTHER THING IS, BY PLAYING ON IT, YOU'RE HELPING TO MAINTAIN IT TO AN ASPECT, BECAUSE IF IT SITS THERE, GRASS GROWS.

    IF YOU GET OUT THERE AND YOU PLAY ON IT AND YOU RAKE IT WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU'RE KEEPING THAT DIRT FRESH AND MOVING INSTEAD OF GETTING WET, GRASSY, GROWING.

    I WOULD ASK EACH OF YOU TO GO OUT TO THOSE FIELDS AND LOOK AT THEM.

    SOFTBALL DOES THE SAME.

    THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT, AND I'M NOT HERE TO TRY TO CHANGE THE CULTURE IN ANGLETON IN ANY MEAN, BUT I WANT US TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE RESPONSIVE TO HOW WE WE LOOK AT IT FROM HOW DO WE BEST REPRESENT ALL OF OUR CITIZENS IN THE TOWN, NOT JUST, OKAY, IF YOU'RE PART OF THE LITTLE LEAGUE OR THE SOCCER OR THE SOFTBALL, THEN IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO GO USE THESE FIELDS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANY MONEY, JUST MAINTAIN THE FIELDS.

    BUT IF YOU'RE A SELECT TEAM OR YOU'RE NOT A PART OF THESE GROUPS, YOU HAVE TO PAY MONEY.

    AND OH, BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE JUST A BUNCH OF KIDS, YOU JUST WANT TO GO OUT AND PLAY ON THE FIELD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RENT THEM.

    YOU JUST GO OUT AND PLAY WELL.

    DON'T WE CHARGE THE ASSOCIATION SOME KIND OF FEE FOR WHEN THEY SIGNED THE AGREEMENT MIC]? SO WE HAVE $1,000 DEPOSIT THAT WE DEDUCT EVERY TIME THEY CALL US OUT TO DO MAINTENANCE. OR IF THEY HAVE NOT MAINTAINED THE FIELD AND OUR STAFF HAVE TO GO OUT AND MAINTAIN THEM, WHETHER IT BE MOWING OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

    WE DEDUCT FROM THAT AS WELL.

    AND RIGHT NOW THAT DEPOSIT DOES OR DOES NOT COVER SELECT TEAMS THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN. NO, NO, JUST THE THE REGULAR RECREATION LEAGUE PLAY.

    AND I THINK YOU HAD ALSO ASKED ABOUT TYPICAL ELECTRIC USE.

    WE DO HAVE WE PULLED THAT FOR THE YEAR.

    IT WAS AROUND 28,000 FOR FREEDOM PARK.

    WE HAVEN'T PULLED IT ON THE OTHER COMPLEXES.

    AND THEN WE ALSO BUDGET 5000 PER ASSOCIATION FOR WHATEVER PROJECT OR MAINTENANCE THAT THEY THEY WERE WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

    IF THERE'S NOT A SEASON PER SE BACK IN THE DAY THERE WAS SEASONS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD A VERY STRONG SEASON WITH FOOTBALL, DIFFERENT SPORTS, WHATEVER.

    BUT NOW IT SEEMS MORE YEAR ROUND WITH MOST OF THE SPORTS.

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    WHEN DO WE HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THOSE SPORTS.

    I KNOW YOU CAN. IF IT'S NOT, THOSE DATES ARE CHOSEN BY.

    RIGHT. BUT IF THEY.

    BUT IF THEY HAVE BASICALLY A YEAR ROUND AGREEMENT.

    THEY DON'T HAVE A DATE SPECIFIED.

    THAT'S WHAT. WE'RE AUTHORIZED.

    A CERTAIN DATE AND THEY HE CAN DO THAT UNLESS THE SPORT.

    IS BEING USED BY SOMEBODY, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE THE ACCOUNTABILITY COMES IN.

    I WILL TELL YOU, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET OF WHEN WE KNOW TEAMS ARE OUT THERE. SO THEY HAVE THE AGREEMENT FOR THE YEAR.

    THEY'RE MAINTAINING THE FIELDS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

    IF, FOR INSTANCE, SOMEONE GOES OUT THERE AND IT'S NOT A TYPICAL SEASON, THE FIELDS AREN'T LOCKED. BUT IF A PERSONNEL IS TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE SOMEONE OUT OF THE FIELD PER THE ORDINANCE, WE WOULD NOTIFY THEM.

    YOU REALLY SHOULD BE RESERVING THIS.

    HERE'S WHERE YOU CAN GO.

    ARE YOU ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LEAGUE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SCHEDULED GAMES OR PRACTICE TIME AT THE TIME YOU'RE PLAYING? SO WE HAD ISSUES WHERE IT'S GOTTEN DAMAGED FROM JUST RANDOM PEOPLE COMING OUT THERE AND PLAYING AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO IN THAT SITUATION? SO WHAT WE GET IS COMPLAINTS FROM THE BOARD THAT BECAUSE IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, THAT IT'S A MESS.

    THAT THEY HAVE TO FIX IT ON THEIR OWN TIME.

    CORRECT. SO AND THEN, I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS? AND AS FAR AS WE KNOW, YES.

    I MEAN, WE GET THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S TRASH OR SOMEONE WROTE UP THE FIELDS OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE DO.

    THERE ARE CAMERAS OUT AT THE COMPLEX.

    IN THE FIELDS. NO NO.

    BUT WE CAN SEE THE FIELDS FROM THE CONCESSION AREA.

    LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD A COMPLAINT THAT SOMEONE WAS ON THE FIELDS, BUT THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE PRESENT.

    SO RATHER THAN ADDRESSING IT FROM A BOARD MEMBER STANDPOINT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE OWNERSHIP OVER THE FIELDS WITH THE LEASE AGREEMENT, STEWART WOULD COME OUT AND ADDRESS IT INSTEAD OF THEM ADDRESSING IT AT THAT TIME.

    BACK IN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES AND THROUGHOUT WE GET BACK WHEN HIS [INAUDIBLE] GET REPORTS AND HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IT WAS JUST THAT JUST HAPPENS [INAUDIBLE] BUT ON YOUR IN YOUR POSITION JOHN AS A COACH AND A PARENT ARE YOU.

    WHAT IS YOUR VIEW OF LOOKING AT WHO SHOULD WE INCLUDE IS YOUR OPINION? WE INCLUDE THEM UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE ASSOCIATION OR WE CREATE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT FOR SELECTING US.

    I FEEL THE SOFTBALL AND I WISH THERE WAS SOMEBODY FROM SOFTBALL, BUT BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER PLAYS SOFTBALL, SO FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M OUT [INAUDIBLE] TOO AND I SEE THAT GOING ON EVERY DAY. THEY WORK PRETTY WELL TOGETHER WITH THE SELECT TEAMS. I DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR ISSUES WITH SOFTBALL.

    I THINK THE ONLY TIME THIS EVER CAME UP WAS SINCE THE LAST MEETING AND BEFORE THAT THERE WAS NO ISSUE THAT THE SELECT TEAM HAD BEEN PRACTICING OUT THERE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, SINCE AUGUST, AND THERE WAS NO ISSUE UNTIL IT GOT BROUGHT UP TO THE PARKS BOARD.

    AND THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE THERE IS THE SELECT TEAMS ARE PRACTICING ON DAYS BECAUSE THEY'RE SCHEDULING AROUND THOSE, THE LEAGUE GUYS BECAUSE THE LEAGUE GUYS HAVE PRIORITY.

    AND SO THE SELECT TEAMS ARE LIKE, OKAY, YOU'RE NOT PRACTICING ON WEDNESDAYS OR USING THE FIELDS ON WEDNESDAYS OR SUNDAYS, WE'LL PRACTICE THEN.

    SO OKAY, WE'LL, AND WE'LL DO OUR PART.

    AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE AGREEMENT THAT HAPPENED TO START.

    IT WAS, HEY, WE'LL, WE'LL HELP OUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND, AND USE THE FIELDS AND MAINTAIN THEM. COACHES, WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, THERE IS NO BOARD FOR SELECT TEAMS, IS THERE MULTIPLE SELECT TEAMS OR JUST ONE? THERE ARE TWO OF THEM THAT ARE 8U AND 9U THAT ARE COACHED BY COACHES IN LITTLE LEAGUE THAT ARE HELPING SELECT THE SELECT TEAM.

    I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE OTHER ONES.

    THERE'S A THERE'S ONE THAT IS I KNOW THERE ARE SOME KIDS THAT PLAY IN LEAGUE ARE PLAYING LITTLE LEAGUE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO PLAYING SELECT THAT GO OUT THERE AND THEY'RE I WANT TO SAY THEY'RE OLDER KIDS.

    BUT THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OR TWO.

    THERE'S ABOUT FOUR 10 TO 14 RANGE.

    THAT WOULD BE LITTLE LEAGUE THAT WANTS TO HOST SOME TOURNAMENTS.

    THE SELECT TEAMS WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT, BUT THERE'S REALLY NO PLACE FOR THAT.

    IT'S A LITTLE LEAGUE RULES.

    YOU HAVE TOURNAMENTS, BUT IT'S ALL STAR TOURNAMENTS AND STUFF.

    FOR SELECT TOURNAMENTS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FACILITIES THAT LIKE FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT DIFFERENT FIELDS. AT THE SAME TIME.

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    THEY GET HUGE.

    WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF ABILITY.

    SO MY CONCERN WOULD BE THIS.

    BEING A FORMER COACH OF A SELECT BASKETBALL TEAM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ABILITY TO USE SOMETHING LIKE YOU CAN'T HAVE TEAMS, RIGHT? AND IF YOU HAVE TO CHARGE $200 EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU USE IT.

    JUST THROWING THAT NUMBER OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACCURATE, BUT IF IT'S $200, EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU PRACTICE, YOU ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE A VERY LARGE SELECTION OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE, KIDS THAT LIVE IN ANGLETON AND THEIR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS.

    YOU JUST THEY JUST CAN'T YOU CAN'T AFFORD THAT KIND OF STUFF.

    THESE ARE BOYS THAT JUST WANT TO PLAY BASEBALL.

    THEY LIKE PLAYING BASEBALL. SO THEY PLAY THEY PRACTICE FOUR TIMES A WEEK, SOMETIMES TWO ON THEIR LEAGUE AND TWO AND SELECT.

    IN A PERFECT WORLD, I WOULD SAY KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHY COULDN'T WE SET SOMETHING UP WHERE WE WOULD GET WITH THE SELECT TEAMS, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM OR SOMETHING, THAT WE WOULD SET IT UP JUST BECAUSE, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE HAVING A CHARGE, EVEN IF IT'S $100 EVERY TIME AND YOU'RE TRYING TO PRACTICE TWO DAYS A WEEK [INAUDIBLE] WHATEVER, THAT'S GOING TO GET KIND OF OUTLANDISH VERY QUICKLY.

    AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHARGE THESE PARENTS AND THESE KIDS A TON OF MONEY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO JUST HONE THEIR SKILLS FOR LITTLE LEAGUE AND OR HONE THEIR SKILLS FOR WHENEVER THEY GET TO AN AGE WHERE THEY CAN PLAY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

    WELL MY CONCERN IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

    WE NEED SOMEBODY TO HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY.

    SURE.

    WE KNOW WHO TO CONTACT WITH THE BASEBALL, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO CONTACT BECAUSE THERE'S NO POWER. SO I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THAT EACH OF THOSE SELECT TEAMS USUALLY PRACTICES ON THE SAME DAY. ALL FOUR OF THEM ARE USUALLY OUT THERE ON WEDNESDAYS AND SUNDAYS AND THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN FIELD.

    SO YOU COULD SAY THIS GROUP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS FIELD.

    THIS ONE IS ON THIS ONE AND THIS ONE.

    AND THEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND I'M OKAY WITH CHARGING, TOO, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T CHARGE IF WE WANT TO, LET'S CHARGE THEM SOMETHING.

    BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE VERY MUCH.

    IT SHOULD BE VERY SMALL, MINIMAL.

    JUST SO YOU HAVE A KNOWLEDGE OF WHO'S OUT THERE.

    RIGHT. AND THEY YOU KNOW, WHO'S THERE.

    AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

    BUT SOMETHING SMALL, IT CAN'T BE A LOT THAT MAKES IT COST PROHIBITIVE, LIKE [INAUDIBLE] SAID, WHERE KIDS CAN'T AFFORD TO PLAY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE TWO TEAMS THAT I KNOW OF OUT THERE, THE COACHES ARE UNPAID.

    THE TEAMS DON'T THE KIDS DON'T PAY MONEY.

    THEY'RE JUST PRACTICING TO GET BETTER.

    WELL, AND IF THEY'RE PLAYING, IF THEY'RE PRACTICING ON DAYS THAT THEY KNOW THAT LITTLE LEAGUE ISN'T PLAYING, ISN'T PRACTICING, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF LITTLE LEAGUE.

    AND IT WAS ALL AN UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN LITTLE LEAGUE AND SELECT.

    I THINK THE ISSUE IS PROBABLY THOUGH WITH MAINTENANCE BECAUSE PROBABLY THE WEEKENDS IS WHEN THEY WANT TO GET THE FIELDS READY FOR THE NEXT WEEK.

    SO WHEN WHEN DO THEY HAVE TIME.

    FIELD MAINTENANCE DAY FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE IS ON FRIDAYS AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE SAID AND THAT'S THEIR PUBLISHED DAY.

    SO NOBODY SO IF THEY YEAH. THEN LITTLE LEAGUE PLAYS GAMES ON SATURDAY AND THEN WHEN DO THEY SO IT'S EVERY FRIDAY RIGHT BEFORE THE SATURDAY.

    SUPPOSED TO BE. YES.

    THEY DON'T PRACTICE ON THE FIELDS ON FRIDAY, BUT LAST FRIDAY THE LEAGUE HAD GAMES ON FRIDAY. SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS, YOU HAVE JUST FOR EASE OF CONVERSATION, YOU HAVE TWO ASSOCIATIONS. YOU HAVE THE LEAGUE ASSOCIATION.

    LET'S JUST SAY THERE IS A ASSOCIATION FOR SELECT DO.

    THERE'S SOME COMMONALITY BETWEEN COACHES YOU SAID, YOU HAVE SOME COACHES WHO COACH BOTH.

    THEY ALL KNOW EACH OTHER. YEAH.

    SO THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH THE BOARDS LIKE BASEBALL NEVER GETS ISSUED HAVING AN ISSUE WITH SELECTING MESSED UP FIELDS OR DOING ANYTHING.

    WELL, I MEAN, NOT UNTIL LAST MEETING DID I EVER HEAR OF A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE SELECT TEAM. SO THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE I'VE HEARD.

    AND THEY DON'T. I KNOW THE THREE OF THOSE TEAMS DON'T USE STEEL SPIKES THAT WAS MENTIONED. THEY USE REGULAR CLEATS JUST LIKE THE LITTLE LEAGUE KIDS DO.

    I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THAT FOURTH TEAM.

    I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE, REALLY.

    SO WHAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IF IT'S WORKING NOW, IF I MEAN, IF WE COULD HAVE WHAT FOR, MEGAN? WOULD IT HELP YOU TO HAVE.

    SOME REFERENCE TO WHO THESE ARE OR THE SELECTING TEAMS ARE WHAT IF THEY'RE WORKING OUT THE SCHEDULE AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR THING AND THEY'RE ALL GETTING ALONG? TO ME, IT MAKES SENSE. WE KNOW WHO'S THERE IF IT'S NOT THE BASEBALL, BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE THAT ON YOUR SCHEDULE, WOULD YOU? WE WOULD NOT HAVE THEM.

    AND WHERE THE DISCONNECT COMES FROM IS THE BOARDS.

    I MEAN, THIS MIGHT BE A STRONG WORD UNWILLINGNESS TO COLLABORATE WITH SELECT TEAMS WHEN THEY'RE IN AN ANNUAL AGREEMENT FOR MAINTENANCE.

    AND SO THE RUB IS THE MAINTENANCE.

    SO I KNOW THEY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HELP TO MAINTAIN IT, BUT TO WHAT DEGREE AND HOW FREQUENT? I MEAN, WHEN A BOARD IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY THE CITY THROUGH A LEGAL DOCUMENT.

    I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE IS COMING INTO PLAY.

    [00:35:02]

    SAME THING WITH OUR PARK STAFF.

    I MEAN, OUR PARK STAFF GO AND MAINTAIN IT, TOO, EVERY TIME THERE'S A RENTAL.

    OUR STAFF GOES OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PREPPED SO THAT WE DON'T GET COMPLAINTS FROM THE BOARD ABOUT RENTING IT.

    SO IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WHAT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF BOUNCING AROUND HERE.

    YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TWO ASSOCIATIONS, EVEN ONES NOT IN REALITY, AND THEY DON'T.

    AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THE LEAGUE MAY HAVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEIR NAME IS ON IT.

    IF THERE'S DAMAGE VERSUS AND MAKES SENSE.

    SO DO WE HAVE TWO SPORTS AGREEMENTS OUT THERE? DO WE HAVE ONE FOR SELECT AND THEY GAVE A SCHEDULE OR DO WE HAVE ONE AND ONE FOR THEM OR DO WE DO I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO.

    [INAUDIBLE] PRIORITY. I WOULDN'T DO THAT.

    YEAH. NO I DON'T SEE.

    YEAH I DON'T I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD KEEP ACCOUNTABILITY OF WHO'S DOING WHAT MAINTENANCE, WHAT PROJECTS ARE BEING FUNDED AND WHO'S HELPING.

    THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK THERE.

    HOW DOES SOFTBALL DO IT WITH SELECT.

    WELL, I WILL TELL YOU, THIS CAME UP WELL, THIS CAME UP LAST YEAR.

    OFTENTIMES, WE DON'T KNOW THAT SELECT TEAMS ARE BEING SCHEDULED.

    AND THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I BELIEVE IT.

    IT MAY HAVE BEEN TWO YEARS AGO THAT WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE SUBLEASING THE FIELDS, WHICH IS AGAINST OUR CITY ORDINANCE ALSO, AND THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY SIGNED ANNUALLY.

    SO WE HAVE SINCE TOLD THEM YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO SUBLEASE THESE FIELDS TO ANY TEAMS. SO TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THAT HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT IF WE DON'T GET A COMPLAINT OR A CALL FROM THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

    SO AGAIN, WE ONLY KNOW BASED OFF OF WHAT IS ON SCHEDULE AND IF THEY COLLABORATE WITH US ON THEIR SCHEDULE.

    AND YOU CAN CONTROL THE LIGHTS OR [INAUDIBLE].

    IF IT'S FUNDED NEXT YEAR.

    YES. FREEDOM PARK.

    YES. IT'S ALREADY DONE.

    AND I WILL TELL YOU, ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, WE HAVE WEEKLY RENTAL AGREEMENT.

    SO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE PRINTS A WEEKLY REPORT.

    SO EVERYTHING THAT IS RENTED, WHETHER IT'S DICKY PARK, PAVILION, FREEDOM FIELD ONE, WHATEVER IT IS, IF IT HAS ANYTHING RELATED TO THE ASSOCIATIONS, WE'RE FORWARDING IT ON TO THE BOARD SO THEY KNOW, HEY, THIS HAS BEEN A SCHEDULED USE, BUT THEY ALREADY KNOW BECAUSE WE COLLABORATE WITH THEM BEFORE TO ENSURE IT'S NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THEIR LEAGUE PLAY.

    SO IS THE BASEBALL BOARD RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE FIELDS YEAR ROUND, EVEN THOUGH THEY ONLY PLAY IN THE SUMMERTIME? YES. YOU WOULD THINK THEY COULD WORK WITH THOSE SELECT TEAMS THAT ARE PLAYING YEAR ROUND TO GET THOSE GUYS TO MAINTENANCE THE FIELDS WHILE THEY'RE USING THEM.

    AND THAT WOULD SAVE THEM WORK.

    DO WHAT? LITTLE LEAGUE HAS TWO SEASONS.

    THERE'S A SPRING AND FALL SEASON FOR THE LEAGUE, BUT LIKE SELECT LITERALLY CAN GO THE ENTIRE YEAR. DOESN'T MATTER WHEN THEY'LL HAVE A BREAK OR TWO.

    BACK IN MY DAY, IT USED TO BE OFF BECAUSE THEY PLAY LITTLE LEAGUE.

    THEY USUALLY PLAY SELECT.

    RIGHT? NO. THEY STARTED DOING LIKE A SECONDARY SEASON.

    LIKE A FALL BALL.

    YEAH, THEY DID START THAT, WHAT, LIKE TWO YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING LONGER.

    YEAH, MAYBE IT MAY HAVE BEEN [INAUDIBLE] PLAYING LITTLE LEAGUE AND SELECT AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. ALWAYS BECAUSE SELECT GOES YEAR ROUND.

    WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY HAVE CONFLICTING GAMES.

    THEY DON'T. THE LEAGUE TAKES PRECEDENT, SO.

    THE ONLY THING SELECT TEAMS DO HERE IS PRACTICE.

    THEY DON'T HAVE GAMES HERE BECAUSE.

    THEY GO TO TOURNAMENT. THEIR TOURNAMENTS OR YEAH.

    HAS PRIOR USE OF THE FIELD.

    AND THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY MEGAN IN ADVANCE OF THEIR SEASON.

    DON'T THEY SUPPOSED TO NOTIFY YOU OF THE GAME'S DATES? RIGHT. HAS THAT BEEN HAPPENING? OR. AS FAR AS I KNOW [INAUDIBLE] COORDINATES ALL THE SCHEDULES.

    AND HE HAS IT PRETTY DOWN PAT.

    SO I DO BELIEVE THAT HE HAS THAT ALL ADDRESSED WITH EACH OF THE ASSOCIATIONS.

    SO WHO'S NOTIFYING YOU ABOUT THE SELECT TEAMS PRACTICE OUT THERE? BOARD MEMBERS. BOARD MEMBERS, BUT THEY DON'T WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.

    SO WE'RE NOT SEEING A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE RAMP.

    THEY'RE NOT REALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT.

    IT'S MORE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FIELD THAN ANYTHING.

    RIGHT. SO THE BOARDS HAVE NO ISSUE WITH RENT.

    THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE SELECT TEAMS AT ALL.

    THEY ARE THEIR PRIORITY IS.

    THE SELECT TEAMS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE RENT.

    WE HAVE HAD ONE COMPLAIN ABOUT HAVING TO PAY, BUT THEY'RE PAYING.

    SO THEY'RE ON SCHEDULE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

    SO. COULD YOU DO LIKE AN ANNUAL CONTRACT WITH THE SELECT TEAMS, THE ANGLETON SELECT TEAM SO THAT WE KNOW.

    THAT'S WHERE YOU. WELL YEAH.

    I MEAN YOU WOULD STILL HAVE LIKE IF THEY CAN COORDINATE IT WITH LITTLE LEAGUE IN THE SENSE OF THE SCHEDULE WHY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

    THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE IS THEY'RE NOT.

    THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO WORK.

    RIGHT. SAY, WHAT'S UP, MAN? I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE ONE POINT.

    SO ONE THING JUST TO CONSIDER WITH THE SELECT TEAMS AND THINGS LIKE WE MENTIONED, IT IS ONLY FOUR OR SO TEAMS RIGHT NOW, BUT WITH SELECT TEAMS MAKING AGREEMENTS INDIVIDUALLY,

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    THERE IS NO SENSE OF SCALE WITH SELECT TEAMS, YOU KNOW, GOING FINDING OUT THEY'RE FROM ANGLETON RESIDENTS ARE NOT AS ONE THING BUT ALSO TO LIKE YOU COULD EXPONENTIALLY HAVE TEN SELECT TEAMS, 20 SELECT TEAMS 30 SELECT TEAMS. THERE'S NO SENSE OF SCALE WITH IT.

    WITH THE LEAGUE, THEY HAVE DEFINED PARAMETERS WITHIN THEIR AGE GROUPS AND THE SIZE OF THEIR LEAGUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

    SO I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIKE INDIVIDUAL AGREEMENTS AND THINGS WITH SELECT TEAMS, YOU HAVE TO THINK THAT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MAY WORK, BUT THE THAT SCALE CAN EXPONENTIALLY GROW, ESPECIALLY AS OTHERS GROW.

    AND THEN WE FIND OTHER AREAS FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA POSSIBLY WANTING TO UTILIZE FIELDS AND FIND PRACTICE SPACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

    SO JUST WANTING TO CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE.

    AND I GET IT BECAUSE LIKE AS WE GROW, WE MIGHT HAVE MORE.

    THE ISSUE THAT I'M GOING TO ALWAYS HAVE WITH THIS IS LIKE WE SHOULDN'T BE LOCKING UP FIELDS ALL THE TIME.

    WE SHOULDN'T I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD.

    AND SO THAT IS NOT ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

    RIGHT. BUT I THINK THAT WHAT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IS IF THE BOARD CONTINUES TO NOT BE FANS OF SELECT TEAMS. BUT THEY MIGHT BE LIKE, WE SHOULD LOCK THINGS UP AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT, THAT HAVE KIDS ON SELECT TEAMS. SO THEY SUPPORT THOSE TOO.

    I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE WHOLE BOARD, RIGHT? WE'RE IN A BIT OF A PICKLE.

    I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO HERE. YEAH.

    SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO GET THE SELECT TEAMS AND THE BOARD TO, LIKE, WORK TOGETHER BETTER . AND HAVE DINNER.

    ONLY WITH THE BASEBALL.

    YEAH, CORRECT.

    THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE INVOLVED IN SCHEDULING, SELECT TEAM, DEALING WITH MAINTENANCE, DOING THE SELECT THE LIGHTS, SELECT TEAMS, USING LIGHTS.

    THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNLESS THEY'RE PLAYING IF WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE LIGHTS.

    CORRECT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

    RIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE OF SELECT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE I SAID BACK IN THE DAY, THAT WAS THE CASE. BUT EVERY TEAM I ASSUME SOCCER HAS SELECT TOO.

    YEAH. SO EVERYBODY HAS SELECT NOWADAYS.

    SO IT'S A COMMON OCCURRENCE, BUT.

    IT'S NORMALLY YOU'RE BETTER KIDS AND IF THEY PLAY LITTLE LEAGUE, YOU WOULD THINK LITTLE LEAGUE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, THAT THEY HAVE KIDS THAT PRACTICE YEAR ROUND.

    BUT IF THEY'RE TAKING THESE KIDS AWAY FROM LITTLE LEAGUE AND BECAUSE THEY'RE PLAYING, I CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S TENSION.

    AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE MAIN ISSUE IS THE MAINTENANCE.

    THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT COME ALONG WITH INCREASED PARTICIPATION ON THE FIELD.

    RIGHT. AND THEY CAN'T MAKE THE SELECT PEOPLE DO IT.

    CORRECT. OUR OBLIGATION IS TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT EXCEL'S GOING AHEAD AND LET THEM EXCEL, WHETHER IT'S LIKE KIDS IN SCHOOL, YOU HAVE ADVANCED CLASSES, BUT YOU WANT THOSE KIDS TO DO BETTER.

    BUT IF IT'S A MAINTENANCE, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET OVER THAT IS YOU TAKE OVER MAINTENANCE AND YOU CHARGE THEM FOR MAINTENANCE.

    AND I KNOW THE LITTLE LEAGUE MAY NOT BE FOND OF THAT, BUT THEY DO HAVE ISSUES JUST LIKE EVERYBODY. THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.

    WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE STAFF FOR IT.

    RIGHT. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOLUNTEERS TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY THAT COME.

    SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET OVER IT IF WE'RE GIVING THEM THE FIRST RIGHT FOR THE FIELDS IN WHICH WE DO ALMOST SEEM LIKE IF THERE'S SELECTING, EITHER WE TAKE OVER HOW WE ASSIGN IT OR THEY JUST HAVE TO GET ALONG AND WORK IT TOGETHER.

    I DON'T KNOW. WHAT ARE YOU WANTING TO PUT SOMETHING IN THIS ORDINANCE TO CHANGE HOW THOSE TWO PARTIES GET ALONG? SO YOU HAVE TO BE FRIENDS? YEAH. YOU GET THREE AND THAT'S YOUR TOP AFTER YOU GET TO THREE.

    WELL, AND REALLY IT JUST IS TO THIS DISCUSSION IS TO INCITE.

    WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND WORK THROUGH BRAINSTORM POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.

    I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE MENTIONED AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MAINTENANCE, THEY PRACTICE ON DESIGNATED DAYS THAT THE TEAMS ARE NOT PRACTICING.

    SO COULD WE CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE A AN ADDITIONAL AGREEMENT WHERE THE SELECT TEAMS, WHOEVER IS PARTICIPATING AT A MAXIMUM AMOUNT, I MEAN, WE ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FIELDS AND A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS THAT THESE SELECT TEAMS CAN PLAY THAT WE SPECIFY THESE ARE THE DAYS THAT YOU CAN PLAY AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO MAINTAIN THE FIELD. STEWART CAN COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.

    HE'S ALREADY WORKED SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS AND THAT THEY EITHER PAY THAT FOR OUR STAFF TO MANAGE OR JUST ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.

    I THINK WE CAN BRAINSTORM SOME SOLUTIONS, BUT THE EXISTING ORDINANCE REALLY PREVENTS US FROM BEING CREATIVE BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY RESTRICTIVE.

    IT LAYS IT OUT THERE, PRETTY DETAILED.

    IF WE WANT THE CITY TO RUN THIS AND MANAGE IT THEN IT'S GOING TO COST US MORE BECAUSE WE CAN'T MANAGE IT WITH FIRMS THAT HAVE TO HAVE STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO COST THEM MORE.

    IT'S BETTER IF THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK.

    BUT THEN YOU HAVE IF YOU IF YOU WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH A SELECT TEAMS AND WHATEVER,

    [00:45:05]

    THERE'S TWO, FOUR, SIX DOESN'T MATTER THAT COST ON A SMALL GROUP FOR MAINTENANCE WOULD PROBABLY BE HIGHER. AND LIKE JOHN SAID, IT'S AND HAVING SAID YOU DON'T WANT TO CHARGE THESE KIDS AND DISCOURAGE THEM FROM EXCELLING, BUT THE LITTLE LEAGUE, IF I WAS THEM I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE CONCERNS THAT THESE OTHER PEOPLE ARE ON THE FIELD THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR. RIGHT.

    DO YOU HAVE THE FIELDS MESSED UP AND YOU NEED SOMETHING FIXED? BUT [INAUDIBLE] YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE SELECT.

    CORRECT.

    COURSE WITH CITY AS WELL.

    BUT IF YOU DID LIKE WHAT YOU SAID AND GAVE THEM WEDNESDAYS AND SUNDAYS, WHATEVER, PICK SOME DAYS THAT THEY CAN PRACTICE THEN YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE MESSED UP.

    ON THOSE DAYS THAT.

    BUT THEN. THEN HOW? WELL, YEAH.

    BUT THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT SELECT TEAM IS THE PROBLEM.

    RIGHT. AND THEN YOU GO INTO THE SCALABILITY OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MAX OUT ON YOU, YOU MAX OUT ON USE PERIOD SO.

    RIGHT. INDIVIDUAL TEAMS, THAT MAKES IT MUCH HARDER.

    RIGHT.

    AND THIS IS. AND IT'S NOT LIKE CONTINUAL COMPLAINTS.

    IT'S JUST. HERE OR THERE THAT THE ISSUE IS BETWEEN THE TWO BECAUSE IT'S I KNOW IT COMES UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT IT'S NOT.

    IT DOES. AND IT'S TYPICALLY FROM BOARD MEMBERS, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT OF PRACTICE SCHEDULE, THERE'S SOMEONE THAT SHOWS UP AND GATES ARE OPEN, SO THEY'RE JUST THERE. AND THEN THERE IS AN ALTERCATION BECAUSE THE LEAGUE IS KICKING PEOPLE OFF THE FIELD. SO THAT'S TYPICALLY WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT IT.

    WE WOULD ENCOURAGE KIDS TO ADVANCE INTO SELECTING BECAUSE YOU WANT THEM TO DO BETTER AND THEY MAYBE GO ON TO HIGH SCHOOL, PLAY, COLLEGE, PLAY OR WHATEVER, BUT.

    YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S DIFFICULT. HOW DO WE.

    WE CAN'T REALLY INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THEY'RE SEPARATE.

    RIGHT. IS THE BASEBALL SELECT FOR THE GIRLS? OR DO THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION? OR ARE THEY STILL JUST DIFFERENT SELECT TEAMS WITH JUST INDIVIDUAL COACHES? OR DO THEY HAVE A BOARD OR A GROUP? MOST OF THOSE ARE JUST INDIVIDUAL TEAMS. THEY'RE NOT THERE'S NOT LIKE AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOES MULTITUDE OF SELECT TEAMS AND HAS A BOARD. IT'S JUST ALMOST ALWAYS IT'S GOING TO BE ONE INDIVIDUAL TEAM WITH THEIR OWN SETUP AND HOW THEY SET IT UP.

    WE DON'T CHARGE LITTLE LEAGUE TO PLAY.

    THEY JUST PUT A DEPOSIT.

    IS IT FAIR TO CHARGE SELECT TEAM TO PLAY IF IT'S BASICALLY THEY'RE STILL LITTLE LEAGUE KIDS OR LITTLE LEAGUE COACHES? DO WE CREATE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THEM? ALL RIGHT. IS THAT FAIR? SO WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION? IT'S NOT FAIR, BUT YEAH, IT'S I DO THINK BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T I'VE AGAIN HEARD I'VE RECEIVED TWO EMAILS PROBABLY IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS IN REGARDS TO THIS, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE BOARDS SINCE WE HAVE BEEN SCHEDULING LIGHTS.

    AND SO RIGHT NOW STEWART'S GOING OUT THERE TO TURN LIGHTS ON AND TURN THEM OFF, BUT HE HASN'T RECEIVED COMPLAINTS FROM THE BOARD.

    AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE OF DISCUSSIONS THEY'VE HAD WITH YOU GUYS AND NOT WANTING TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.

    I DON'T THINK THE ASSOCIATIONS ARE IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THE ORDINANCE.

    I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I THINK THE DIRECTION WITH SCHEDULING THE TEAMS, THE PRACTICES AND THEN UTILIZING THE LIGHTING SOFTWARE WILL HELP US AND IT'S IN LINE WITH OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE.

    IF YOU SEE A MULTITUDE OF RESIDENTS COMING TO YOU TO ADDRESS THIS SITUATION, WE CAN WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN COLLECTING INFORMATION FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO SO WE CAN PREPARE THAT INFORMATION AND JUST BRING IT AS AN UPDATE.

    SO YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING WITH SPORTS FIELD MANAGEMENT, BUT AT THIS TIME, I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

    [INAUDIBLE] CHARGED. OH, SURE.

    SO JUST ONE THING TO JUST TO KIND OF PUT IT IN CONTEXT.

    SO THE ACTUAL FEES CHARGED PER HOUR FOR SPORTS TEAMS IS 15 OR $20 AN HOUR PER PER, HOUR PER. WHETHER IT'S DAYTIME OR NIGHTTIME RENTAL.

    SO JUST TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT, AS FAR AS THE ASSOCIATION'S PROVIDING FIELD MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM AN HOURLY RATE STANDPOINT FOR A STAFF PERSON TO GO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE ON THE FIELD AFTER USAGE OR THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU'RE BASICALLY MAYBE NOT EVEN BREAKING EVEN WITH A STAFF PERSON GOING OUT THERE TO TURN THE FIELD OVER AFTERWARDS.

    SO I'D SAY THAT THE THE RATE FOR THE FEE IS PRETTY COMPARABLE AND PRETTY FAIR CONSIDERING THE STAFF COST TO GO IF THEY HAD TO GO AND PROVIDE MAINTENANCE FOR THOSE FIELDS AND TURN THEM OVER FOR THAT OTHER ONE.

    SO GIVEN THAT THE LITTLE LEAGUES ARE PROVIDING MAINTENANCE VERSUS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, THAT'S NOT WANTING TO PROVIDE THE PRICING.

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    JUST TO PUT IT TO AN IDEA OF THE SCALE OF THE SERVICE THAT THEY'RE GETTING.

    SO WHICH IS REALLY, IF YOU LOOK ACROSS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, IS A PRETTY LOW AND FAIR PRICE FOR FOR AN HOURLY RATE FOR A FIELD RENTAL AND ESPECIALLY WITH YOU'RE INCLUDING LIGHTS IN THAT. WHAT IF THE SELECT TEAMS OFFER TO DO THEIR OWN MAINTENANCE, THOUGH, LIKE WHAT THE LITTLE LEAGUE DOES? IS THAT A PROBLEM FOR THE BOARD? I THOUGHT HE SAID THAT THEY DID THEIR OWN MAINTENANCE.

    WELL, HE SAID THAT.

    THEY MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE MOWER.

    YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING.

    THE EQUIPMENT AND STUFF, THEY DON'T PLACE TO STORE IT.

    THERE WAS A COACH ON THE BOARD.

    YEAH. NOT ALSO LIKE COACHES WILL HAVE THAT ACCESS.

    IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE INDIVIDUAL LIKE HEAD COACH AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE.

    THEY WERE ON THE BOARD OR NOT OR THEY HAD CONNECTIONS.

    I'M JUST SAYING IF THEY DID THEIR OWN MAINTENANCE, THEN THE COST.

    RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, WHAT KYLE WAS MENTIONING IS THAT'S JUST FOR AN EMPLOYEE TO GO OUT AND TURN IT OVER. SO THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE COST OF THE LIGHTS OR JUST OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE OF THAT PARK IN GENERAL THAT THE CITY'S OFFSETTING.

    CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE JUST TABLE THIS AND GATHER MORE DATA? SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES DO.

    AND IT'S NOT. THERE'S NOT A BLACK AND WHITE HERE.

    I MEAN, WE IT'S HARD TO.

    WHEN WE USED TO ONLY HAVE SEASONAL CONTRACTS YEARS AGO, IT WAS ANNUAL CONTRACTS.

    AND WE CONVERTED THAT AT SOME POINT.

    SO YOU COULD ALMOST HAVE FOUR CONTRACTS A YEAR FOR THE FIELD.

    YOU CAN HAVE A SPRING, A SUMMER AND A WINTER, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO THE FIELD.

    AND SO IT JUST MAKES IT, I AGREE.

    I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING COME UP.

    RESOLVE IT. I MEAN, JOHN HAD SOME IDEAS, BUT HE STILL DIDN'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT EITHER.

    RIGHT. AND IF HE DOESN'T HAVE AN ANSWER AND HE'S LIVING IT, I DON'T KNOW.

    WHAT WE CAN DO. SO I KIND OF I AGREE WITH YOU.

    MAYBE WE JUST.

    NOW WE CAN COMPILE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVE FROM WE EMAILED THE DIRECTORS IN THE GULF COAST REGION.

    AND SO WE HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT TEN RESPONSES.

    SO WE'LL COMPILE THAT AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU GUYS TO ASSESS.

    ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM [INAUDIBLE] ADAM FOR DISCUSSION?

    [4. Discuss and possible action on budget recommendations for Parks, Right-of-Way, and Recreation division budgets for fiscal year 2022-2023]

    POSSIBLE ACTION ON BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PARKS RIGHT AWAY AND RECREATION DIVISION BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 22-23.

    YES. SO STAFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING YOU ALL THE PRELIMINARY BUDGETS TO REVIEW WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

    WE ARE WELL WITHIN THAT THRESHOLD.

    YOU'LL SEE THIS AGAIN ON SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS IN JUNE AS WELL AS AUGUST AS CHANGES OCCUR AND WE RECEIVE ADDITIONAL DIRECTION FROM EITHER YOU ALL CITY COUNCIL AND ALSO ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATIONS SINCE THEY HELP SUBSIDIZE SOME OF THE PARKS PERSONNEL AND ALSO ALL OF THE RECREATION DIVISION.

    AND SO IF YOU GO TO PAGE 13, WE'LL START WITH RIGHT AWAY.

    THESE REALLY JUST CONSISTS OF OUR PERSONNEL SERVICES TOTAL.

    SO ARE EARNINGS, MINIMAL SUPPLIES, REPAIRS AND CAPITAL OUTLAY.

    DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY? A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I SHOULD NOTE.

    SO SOME OF THE YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THESE WORKSHEETS THAT SEVERAL ITEMS ARE HIGHLIGHTED.

    IT MAY BE BECAUSE THOSE COULD CHANGE BASED ON ADDITIONAL DIRECTION.

    FOR INSTANCE, THE REGULAR EARNINGS IS BASED ON FUNDING SALARIES AT 4% OF COST OF LIVING INCREASE, WHICH STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO INCORPORATE INTO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.

    AND IT ALSO INCLUDES TWO CREW LEADERS AND THAT INFORMATION HASN'T BEEN QUITE UPDATED THIS YEAR. AT THE END OF PROBABLY IN JUNE, WE MAY BE ABLE TO PUSH IT BACK A LITTLE BIT LATER.

    WE HAD PROPOSED THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR TO HIRE TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE FOR THE OPENING OF LAKESIDE PARK, AND SO THEY WILL BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY BUDGET AS WELL.

    CURRENTLY YOU HAVE FIVE, SO YOU'LL HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN EMPLOYEES.

    HEALTH INSURANCE JUMPED.

    IT DOES, SO WE ALWAYS PLAN FOR AN INCREASE.

    SO THAT IS BASED ON A 20% INCREASE FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.

    THAT COULD BE WELL ABOVE IT COULD BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.

    WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.

    SO WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE ESTIMATES AT THIS TIME.

    SO YOU'RE SAYING LAKESIDE PARK, YOU'RE GOING TO HIRE TWO MORE PEOPLE, CORRECT? FULL TIME? CORRECT.

    AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUSY JUST ON THAT PART.

    OH, NO. I MEAN, WE JUST HAD A LAND ACQUISITION FOR SOUTH SIDE PARK.

    YEAH, I MEAN, WE HAVE MAINTENANCE NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PARK SYSTEM.

    YES, WE. YOUR ADDING TWO JUST BECAUSE YOU NEED TO.

    RIGHT. OKAY.

    YEAH, I'M EXCITED.

    AND THEN ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

    RIGHT. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON

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    RIGHT AWAY.

    I'LL MOVE ON. BUT IF THERE ARE, WE CAN PAUSE.

    OH, AND RIGHT AWAY DOES COME OUT OF GENERAL FUND.

    I'LL NOTE SOME OF THE SUBSIDIES AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REST OF THE ACCOUNTS.

    SO LOOKING AT PARKS, WHICH IS ON PAGE 14, YOU'LL SEE THE REGULAR EARNINGS IS HIGHLIGHTED.

    AGAIN, THAT'S A 4% INCREASE.

    SOME OF THESE THINGS MAY CHANGE DEPENDING ON IF THAT NUMBER CHANGES WITH COUNCIL DIRECTION. LET ME JUMP IN THERE JUST REAL QUICK.

    THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX IS UP ALMOST 8%.

    AND SO EVEN.

    AND AGAIN, I'M DIRECTING STAFF TO PUT IN THE 4% ACROSS THE BOARD.

    SO WE'RE LOSING MONEY FOR EMPLOYEES.

    SO WE'LL SEE [INAUDIBLE] BUDGET, WHAT COUNCIL GUIDANCE.

    WE TRIED TO KEEP AS MUCH AS WE COULD FLAT ON THE BUDGET OVERALL.

    WE DID REFLECT OR SHOULD HAVE REFLECTED.

    LET ME MAKE SURE.

    IT'S A CHANGE.

    OH, YOU'RE NOT THERE YET. A COUPLE OF BIG CHANGES ON PAGE 17.

    OKAY. I WILL SAY ON PAGE 16, JUST TO I MENTIONED IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

    LINE ITEM 457, PARKS, BALL FIELD MAINTENANCE.

    WE DID INCREASE THAT AS BASED ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED FOR ASSOCIATIONS, THE REQUEST OR DIRECTION FROM PARKS BOARD WAS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE FUNDS IN THERE.

    SO WE WENT FROM 15,000 TO 30,000, WHICH WOULD ALLOCATE 10,000 PER ASSOCIATION FOR ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

    AND THAT IS ALL ON THE PARKS DIVISION.

    I WILL NOTE THAT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM ABLC IN MARCH FOR BUDGET WAS THAT PARKS PERSONNEL. PARKS PERSONNEL IS CURRENTLY THIS FISCAL YEAR SUBSIDIZED BY ABLC BY 40%.

    SO 40% OF THE IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 15 NOPE, SORRY, PAGE 14, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL PERSONNEL, WHICH IS NINE ABOUT RIGHT AROUND 900,000, 40% OF THAT IS FUNDED BY ABLC.

    AND SO THEY'VE REQUESTED THAT THAT BE REDUCED BY 30%.

    SO JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE SOME OF THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM, GENERAL FUND PAYS FOR MAJORITY OF THE PARKS DIVISION, BUT NEXT YEAR THE PROPOSAL WILL BE THAT 30% OF PERSONNEL SERVICES BE PAID BY ABLC INSTEAD OF 40%.

    SO THEN PARKS IS PICKING UP THE SLIDE.

    AND IT'S PICKING UP.

    RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ENTERPRISE ACCOUNTS, ENTERPRISE FUND ACCOUNTS THAT ARE PAYING FOR PARKS ITSELF.

    SO IT'S BEING FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND.

    FINANCIAL.

    PERSONNEL SERVICES, WE'RE SEEING A REDUCTION ON A NUMBER OF THESE IT'S BECAUSE ON PAGE I THINK AT 17. YES.

    SOME OF THE NUMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DROPPED.

    SO THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

    ANOTHER THING THAT YOU ALL MAY WANT TO KNOW FROM A PARKS AND RECREATION STANDPOINT IS THAT WE ARE WE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN YOUR PACKET BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS MANAGE. BUT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND RECREATION SERVICES ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS.

    WE HAVE PROPOSED A REORGANIZATION CHART OF SEPARATING THOSE DIVISIONS SO THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ABLC THE PROJECTS THEY ARE FUNDING.

    FOR INSTANCE, THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER IS A STANDALONE FACILITY.

    IT HAS STAFF THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH OPERATING THAT FACILITY CONSISTING OF A FACILITY, OPERATIONS SUPERINTENDENT, THE POOL MANAGER, A CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE, LIFEGUARDS AND FRONT DESK STAFF.

    THEY ARE WHO MANAGE THAT FACILITY.

    WE ALSO HAVE ACCOUNTS RELATED TO THE FACILITY, WHETHER IT BE FACILITY MAINTENANCE, INSURANCE SUPPLIES, CLEANING SUPPLIES, CONTRACT INSTRUCTORS FOR MEMBER SERVICES LIKE GROUP EXERCISE CLASSES.

    ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT FACILITY IS NOW IN THIS DIVISION.

    WE HAVE SEPARATED THAT FROM RECREATION SERVICES OR A RECREATION DIVISION THAT IS STRICTLY REVOLVED AROUND RECREATION, EDUCATION, LEISURE PROGRAMING.

    SO WHILE THEY MAY HAVE EVENTS AND PROGRAMS AT THE FACILITY, IT'S NOT A MEMBER SERVICE.

    SO IF YOU HAVE A MEMBER MEMBERSHIP AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, IT DOESN'T MEAN

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    THAT YOU GET TO GO TO THE FATHER DAUGHTER, DANCE FOR FREE.

    YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE.

    IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SERVICE OFFERING.

    SO WE'VE SEPARATED THOSE DIVISIONS.

    AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS ONE OF THOSE DIVISIONS STRICTLY THE RECREATION DIVISION.

    AND THAT SPEAKS TO WHY THE SALARIES ARE JUST NEARLY CUT IN HALF.

    I THINK I SAW SOMETHING EARLIER ABOUT THE FUND BALANCE TRANSFER HAS CHANGED AS WELL.

    YES. AND REALLY THEY AREN'T.

    THEY HAVE THEY'RE JUST BEING SUBSIDIZED DIFFERENTLY, MEANING RECREATION PROGRAMS THAT ARE FEE BASED.

    FOR INSTANCE, WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING HERE IS I THINK IT'S AROUND 38,000 IN REVENUE.

    SO WE'VE GOT TO OFFSET THAT EXPENSE.

    OUR TOTAL EXPENSE IS AROUND.

    I DON'T THINK IT CHANGED MUCH WHEN I LOOKED AT IT EARLIER.

    806. NO, IT HASN'T.

    IT'S STILL AROUND 800 SOMETHING IN TOTAL, BUT.

    IN YOUR BUDGET. BUT YOU'LL SEE THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES FOR THE RECREATION DIVISION ARE RIGHT AROUND 409,000.

    WELL, WHAT WE DON'T OFFSET IN PROGRAM REVENUE, IT HAS TO BE SUBSIDIZED EITHER BY THE GENERAL FUND OR BY ABLC, IT'S CURRENTLY SUBSIDIZED BY ABLC.

    AND SO THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DIVISION IS IN THE SAME BOAT.

    WHATEVER. WE DON'T MAKE UP IN MEMBERSHIP OR RENTAL FEES.

    WE ARE SUBSIDIZED BY ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION, AND SO THE AMOUNTS FOR THAT ARE IN TOTAL.

    OVER 800,000 OF HALF CENT SALES TAX.

    AND HOW WHERE DO YOU HAVE ON HERE? HOW MUCH YOU BRING IN? SO IF YOU GO TO LET ME GET YOU A PAGE NUMBER SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT.

    PAGE 24 THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER IS ALL OF YOUR REVENUES.

    BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HIGHLIGHTED NUMBER, WHICH IS $474,102.

    THAT IS THE SUBSIDY FROM ABLC.

    WHICH LOWER NEXT YEAR, ABOUT 10%.

    NO, THAT WAS FOR PARKS.

    SO NOW WE'RE IN RECREATION AND THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.

    IT IS FULLY SUBSIDIZED BY A [INAUDIBLE].

    WE'RE NOT ASSUMING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

    THAT'S A PROPOSAL.

    SO WHEN WE GET TO BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL.

    BUT WE PRESENT ALL THIS.

    IT'S UP TO THEM TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EXECUTE OR NOT.

    WITH THE ABLC IS COMING FROM ON THIS WE, WE'VE GOT [INAUDIBLE] PARK, WE HAVE THE FREEDOM PARK, THE MASTER PLAN WE HAVE.

    IF ALL THESE PEOPLE COME THAT ARE EXPECTED TO COME, WE HAVE TO GROW OUR PARK.

    SO THIS EXTRA 400 AND SOME THOUSAND, IT IS A $820,505.

    WE PUT OVER TO THE REC CENTER LIMITS.

    IF YOU'VE GOT $800,000.

    BALANCE SHEET AND IT DOES NO GOOD TO HILLTOP SECURITIES OR ANYONE THAT IF WE DID HAVE IT.

    SO I KNOW KYLE'S GOT A PLAN, AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE HE LEAVES, HE'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER NUMBER. BUT THAT DOES LIMIT WHAT WE CAN BORROW.

    SO. I THINK THERE'S BEEN KIND OF A DISCUSSION ON HOW TO IMPROVE THAT BOTTOM LINE.

    YES. AND SO WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO ABLC ON MONDAY, NEXT MONDAY.

    AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO THAT.

    BUT IT INCLUDES REVISING FACILITY HOURS, IT INCLUDES REVISING MEMBERSHIP OFFERINGS, CONSOLIDATING THAT POTENTIAL INCREASES DEPENDING ON WHAT THE BOARD WANTS TO DO.

    THERE WAS ONE OTHER ONE THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING.

    TACKLE TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL ESTHETICS OF THE FACILITY AND JUST OPERATIONS TRULY SO THAT WHEN MEMBERS GO THERE, THEY SEE THE VALUE IN THEIR MEMBERSHIP.

    AND SO EACH OF THOSE ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT MEETING.

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    OKAY. SO I'M LOOKING ON PAGE 20.

    SO THE MONEY THAT THE REC CENTER BRINGS IN ARE THOSE FIRST FOUR NUMBERS.

    YES. FIRST FIVE-ISH.

    THE LAST ONE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IS THE SUBSIDY.

    SO THOSE TWO TOGETHER IS WHAT THE OPERATING COST FOR THE REC CENTER IS.

    CORRECT. SO OUR REVENUE AND OUR EXPENSE WILL ALWAYS BALANCE.

    SO HALF.

    SO IT'S 50% FUNDED, SELF FUNDED, I GUESS, AND 50% SUBSIDIZED RIGHT NOW, THE REC CENTER.

    BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES AND THOSE ESTIMATES DO INCLUDE SOME OF THE TRANSITIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO MAKE.

    SO I WOULD SAY TODAY WE'RE OPERATING AT LESS THAN 50%.

    WOW. THAT SUCKS.

    WOULD WE EXPECT IT TO BE WHEN WE I MEAN, DID WE.

    KYLE, WHAT IS THE TYPICAL INDUSTRY STANDARD? AND THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE, I GUESS.

    WELL, THIS IS LOWER THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH COVID PLAYED IN IT. WHAT'S [INAUDIBLE]? YEAH. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE ORIGINAL.

    LIKE, REVENUE EXPECTATIONS FROM THE FACILITY WAS OPEN.

    I'M SURE ABLC HAD SOME IDEAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN GOING THROUGH THERE.

    BUT FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES, IT TYPICALLY THEY DON'T OPERATE AT 100% COST RECOVERY. AND UNLESS THEY'VE BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

    AND SO BUT IDEALLY WE WOULD BE OVER 50% OF COST RECOVERY OF THAT.

    BUT ALSO CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THINGS THAT WILL EVENTUALLY NEED TO BE FUNDED AND THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE THAT FIT INTO THE DAY TO DAY OPERATING BUDGET.

    WE SHOULD IDEALLY SHOOT FOR IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS A FEW MORE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN REVENUE BASED OFF OUR CURRENT EXPENSES.

    SO. AND PRIOR TO I GUESS A YEAR MEGAN KANE, SCOTT ABBOTT THE [INAUDIBLE] THEY NEEDED. THEY COULDN'T VOTE BALANCE THEIR BUDGET WITHOUT US TAKING OVER.

    PART OF THAT, WE DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THE OPERATIONS.

    WE TOOK OVER OPERATIONS.

    UM. NOT MANY YEARS.

    A FEW YEARS BACK.

    SO WHAT IT DOES IT. IT IS KIND OF LIKE ADDING ON YOUR CREDIT SCORE JUST DECREASES WHAT WE COULD DO. IF WE WERE CITY WAS ALL BUILT OUT, IT WOULDN'T BE THAT BIG A DEAL.

    WE'RE JUST. WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO.

    IT SOUNDS LIKE ABLC IS TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT AGREEMENT.

    BECAUSE WE ARE THE CITY A $10 MILLION CO RECENTLY, BUT $0 WENT TO PARKS.

    SO [INAUDIBLE] WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE THE ONLY FUNDING MECHANISM FOR ALL PARKS.

    A NEW PARKS REDOING THEIR EXPANDING FREEDOM PARK, [INAUDIBLE] PARK.

    ANYTHING WE DO IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM ABLC AND AS LONG AS OUR INDEBTEDNESS IS HIGH WE REALLY LIMITED WHAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE COULDN'T DO MUCH AT ALL.

    BUT HOPEFULLY SALES TAX WILL GO UP AND SOME OTHER THINGS WILL HAPPEN.

    AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'LL GO FROM THERE. THE CITY MAY LOOK AT, BUT THEY GOT THEIR OWN ISSUES. SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT.

    SO WE WRAPPED UP PARKS.

    DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON RECREATION, EXPENSE AND REVENUE? IF [INAUDIBLE] WAS HERE SHE WOULD.

    I'M SURE SHE WOULD. SHE WILL HAVE HER TIME ON MONDAY.

    WHAT TIME DOES THAT BE, I WANT TO COME TO THAT ONE? 5:30. JUST TO HEAR ALL OF IT.

    GO AHEAD. OKAY.

    AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE RECREATION CENTER, WHICH IS ON PAGE 20.

    OR THAT WAS THE REVENUE PAGE 20.

    MY APOLOGIES. AND SO THE LAST DIVISION IS A RECREATION WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES ON PAGE 21 THROUGH 23 AND REVENUE ON PAGE 24 AND 25.

    I APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THESE CHANGES THAT HELPS.

    YEAH. WHEN YOU THE EXPENSES, YOU PUT ON THE ABLC SIDE, THE REC CENTER LIKE YOU AND KYLE YOU ARE NOT IN THAT PERSONNEL BUDGET, CORRECT? RIGHT. WE'RE BOTH OUT OF PARKS, SO WE'LL WE'RE BEING FUNDED OR THE PROPOSAL NEXT YEAR IS 30%.

    BEING FUNDED BY ABLC.

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    BUT EVERYTHING PROGRAMING, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON THE REC CENTER IS ABLC.

    CORRECT. BUT THE BUS OR WHATEVER YOU DO THERE IS THAT IF IT'S USED FOR ABLC ACTIVITIES IS THAT COME OUT TO US AS WELL OR YOU KNOW THE LITTLE.

    SO THE BUS THAT WE HAD IS AN ON ENTERPRISE ENTERPRISE LEASE AGREEMENT.

    WE DO HAVE A SECONDARY BUS THAT WE OWN AND WE USE AS A BACKUP IF WE MAX OUT ON PARTICIPATION FOR TRIPS.

    BUT THAT IS FULLY FUNDED BY ABLC ALSO.

    SO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THIS BUDGET YEAR, ALL CLASSIFIED UNDER THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER? IT IS NOW CLASSIFIED IN RECREATION DIVISION AND ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, STILL ALL PAID FOR BY ABLC.

    YOU HAVE PROBABLY DONE SO.

    BUT, KYLE, HAVE WE GOT OR DONE A SURVEY OR SOMETHING RECENT.

    WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IN THE REC CENTER.

    I KNOW IF IT'S WHEN WE BUILT THE REC SORRY, WE BUILT THE REC CENTER THERE WITH SUCH THINGS AS URBAN AIR OR CHUCKY CHEESE AROUND HERE OR PLACES FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES IN THERE.

    THAT'S GONE. AND LIKE ANY FACILITY, THEY GET STALE.

    I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S NEW THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEKING.

    SO WITH WE DID RECENTLY DO A SURVEY WITH OUR FACILITY MEMBERS AND DAY PASS USERS, BASICALLY EVERYBODY WHO'S USED THE FACILITY IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, I WILL SAY THE REQUEST, HONESTLY, AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SEE IN A LOT OF OTHER SURVEYS IS MORE OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

    SO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IS SOMETIMES I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME GEOGRAPHIC ISOLATION FROM OTHER KIND OF MARKETS.

    AND SO THERE MAY NOT BE AS MUCH EXPOSURE TO NEW KIND OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES AND PRODUCTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU MAY SEE IF YOU HAVE IF YOU'RE TOUCHING ANOTHER MARKET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

    SO WE SEE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE OR THINGS ARE ALREADY SUCCESSFUL SEEING MORE OF.

    IN GENERAL, YOU SEE JUST A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR UPKEEP, A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR REPLACEMENT, AND A LOT OF REQUEST FOR JUST GENERAL EXPECTATIONS.

    AND SO WITH A RECREATION FACILITY LOOKING AT THE CORE PURPOSE OF THE FACILITY IS PROVIDING A AN OUTLET FOR PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, RECREATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

    IT'S IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE MAJORITY OF YOUR PARTICIPATION AND THE MAJORITY OF YOUR REVENUE POSSIBILITY IS GOING TO COME FROM YOUR CORE SERVICES.

    SO NATATORIUM USAGE, FITNESS FACILITY USAGE, GYM USAGE, GROUP EXERCISE CLASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S REALLY CAPITALIZING ON THOSE THINGS.

    THERE ARE OTHER UNIQUE FEATURES.

    I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

    LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE PLACES THAT HAVE ROCK WALLS OR PLACES THAT HAVE NUMBERS OF RACQUETBALL COURTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

    THEY ARE GOOD FEATURES AND THEY ATTRACT NICHE GROUPS, BUT THEY USUALLY GO ONLY SERVE A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT A GIVEN TIME.

    THEY'RE HIGH EXPENSE, HIGH, HIGH EFFORT TO OPERATE AND DON'T TYPICALLY ATTRACT ADDITIONAL BUSINESS UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIFIC NEED FOR THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES.

    SO MOST OF IT IS MORE OF EMPHASIZING AND IMPROVING ON THE CORE SERVICES THAT ARE OFFERED AND THEN HAVING PLANS FOR UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OVER TIME.

    SO THAT SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, KIND OF USING IT.

    SO LIKE WITH FITNESS CENTER, TALKING ABOUT EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, JUST REPLACING EQUIPMENT, EVEN IF YOU REPLACE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SIMILAR WITH A DIFFERENT BRAND OR DIFFERENT STYLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, PERIODICALLY PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT AS AN INVESTMENT AND THEY SEE IT AS NEW AND EXCITING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

    EVEN IF IT'S JUST A NEW TREADMILL AND THE TREADMILL BELT WORKS JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS TREADMILL BELT JUST TYPICALLY YOU GET GOOD RESPONSE FOR INVESTMENT INTO UPDATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I WOULD SAY MOST OF OUR RESULTS WE'VE SEEN HAVE JUST BEEN KIND OF LIKE INCREASING MORE OF THE SAME OR IMPROVE ON UPKEEP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

    BUT THERE ARE SOME INCIDENTS OF PEOPLE HAVING VERY SPECIFIC REQUESTS, BUT THEY ARE JUST LIKE THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC, LIKE KIND OF ONE OFFS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

    SO NOT TO SAY WOULDN'T PURSUE OTHER THINGS THAT MAY BE UNIQUE, IT'S JUST THE MATTER OF LIKE, IS IT GOING TO ATTRACT ADDITIONAL BUSINESS? IS IT GOING TO HAVE A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT OVER TIME? WHAT'S THE LONG TERM COST OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION AND THINGS? AND SO FOR THE MOST PART, THE MOST THE MOST SUCCESSFUL FACILITIES, WHETHER IT BE PARKS AND REC OR OTHER INDUSTRIES, REALLY JUST GET VERY GOOD AT SPECIALIZING IN THE AREAS THAT THEIR CORE AREAS OF SERVICE AND DON'T GET TOO FAR OUT OF THE BOX.

    AND SO MUCH LIKE URBAN AIR, LIKE WE COULD OFFER SOME SORT OF WE SHOULD, BUT THAT IS A VERY, VERY NICHE SERVICE THAT SERVICES THAT SPECIFIC NICHE AT THAT LOCATION.

    THAT'S ALL THEY DO. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE CHICK-FIL-A APPROACH.

    THEY JUST SERVE CHICKEN AND WE SHOULD REALLY MOST SUCCESSFUL PLACES GET VERY GOOD AT THEIR CORE SERVICES. SO I GUESS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS WE LIKE THE ABLC IS GOING TO LOOK AT THIS IS HOW MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE WE REALLY SERVING FOR THE MONEY?

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    WE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REPAIRS OVER THE YEARS.

    YOU KNOW, THE AIR CONDITIONED NEW ROOF RE-PLASTER, DID A LOT OF THINGS.

    AND IS IS THERE ENOUGH PEOPLE COMING TO WARRANT SPENDING EIGHT HUNDRED SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR AND NOT INCLUDING UPCOMING REPAIRS AND THAT MONEY, WOULD IT BE BETTER SPENT OVER HERE? WOULD IT BE BETTER SPENT OVER HERE? IS NATATORIUM USAGE ENOUGH FOR WHAT IT COSTS TO MAINTAIN IT? THE SPLASH PAD BE BETTER THAT DOESN'T HAVE LIFEGUARDS DOESN'T HAVE MUCH MAINTENANCE OR YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO ASSESS THAT FACILITY, SEE IF IT'S OUT OF DATE, SEE IF WE ONLY HAVE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE USING IT.

    WE COULD GO BUILD, FINISH OUT FREEDOM PARK.

    WE GO BUILD [INAUDIBLE] PARK IF WE DID SOME OTHERS.

    AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GETTING TO THAT BUT MAYBE ABLC GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT IS THAT SUSTAINABLE TO KEEP PUTTING THAT MONEY IN THERE.

    AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK, BECAUSE I WOULD ASSUME THE NATATORIUM IS PROBABLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE.

    AS FAR AS OPERATIONALLY.

    YES. AND JUST TO THAT.

    AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE'LL TOUCH ON NEXT WEEK ABLC TOO.

    BUT FROM AN OPERATIONAL EXPENSE STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, A FOUR WAY OR FIVE LANE LAP POOL IS MUCH CHEAPER TO OPERATE THAN A WATER PARK OR SLIDE FEATURE BECAUSE THERE'S MUCH LOWER SAFETY CONCERNS, THERE'S MUCH LOWER BATHER LOAD.

    SO YOU GO THROUGH LESS CHEMICALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AS MANY LIFEGUARDS. MAINTENANCE IS EASIER.

    SO YOU YOU HAVE EXPONENTIALLY LESS COST.

    BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR FACILITY, NOTHING BRINGS BUTTS IN THE SEATS MORE SO THAN THE NATATORIUM.

    AND YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

    SO IT'S A BALANCE OF YOUR FEATURES THAT YOUR STAR ATTRACTIONS AND BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT IS JUST LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE.

    AND SO I THINK FOR WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE NATATORIUM IS A SOLID EXAMPLE AS A SOLID WAY TO GET PEOPLE THERE.

    AND GOING BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL POINT, I MENTIONED THIS ABLC MEETING LAST TIME.

    OUR PENETRATION RATE FOR OUR IMMEDIATE MARKET IS ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD.

    SO I THINK WE SERVED AROUND 1800 HOUSEHOLDS FOR MEMBERSHIP AND DAY PASS USAGE LAST FISCAL YEAR. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ACROSS THE HOUSEHOLDS ON ANGLETON, THAT'S REALLY, REALLY HIGH COMPARED TO OTHER CITY PENETRATION RATES FOR A SIMILAR AREA.

    THE STRUGGLE WE HAVE IS KEEPING THEM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

    AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON IS ENGAGING THOSE 1800 HOUSEHOLDS OR GROWING THROUGHOUT A 12-MONTH CYCLE INSTEAD OF A THREE MONTH CYCLE.

    SO DON'T TAKE IT WRONG.

    I WOULDN'T MEAN THAT WE NEED TO GET RID OF THAT.

    OH, NO, NO. IT WAS THE THING THAT BROUGHT THAT DAY WHEN WE HAD THE REFERENDUM TO EVEN GET [INAUDIBLE] INDOOR POOL IS WHAT I'M JUST SAYING.

    HOW COULD WE. BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE LEAVING US SOON.

    WELL I'D SAY THAT YEAH. I'D SAY THE NATATORIUM, I'D SAY THE NATATORIUM WOULD BE IT'S JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE FROM A STANDPOINT OF OPERATIONAL IS YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO OPERATE A SPECIFIC ASSET NATATORIUM LIKE IN DIFFERENT STYLES OF AQUATIC VERSUS A SPLASH PAD. THERE'S DEFINITELY ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES TO BOTH.

    YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT OF A FACILITY, A SPLASH PAD IS NEVER GOING TO DRAW THE SAME LEVEL OF REVENUE GENERATION THAT AN AUDITORIUM WILL, BUT IT WILL GET A LOT OF PASSIVE PLAY IF YOU PUT IT INTO A PARK OR HAVE IT ADJACENT TO AN AQUATIC FACILITY AT A POOL.

    BUT IT'S IT'S A MATTER OF THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, WHETHER IT'S JUST FOR GENERAL USE.

    BUT I THINK THE NATATORIUM JUST PROVIDES A GOOD EXAMPLE OF LIKE VARYING OPERATION COST BASED ON HOW YOU PROGRAM IT AND HOW YOU STAFF IT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

    THERE'S NO FEE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE TO USE.

    BUT NOT JUST THE YOU KNOW, WE DREW UP THOSE PLANS FOR THAT FACILITY CLOSE 20 YEARS AGO.

    AND IT'S LIKE ANYTHING [INAUDIBLE] EVOLVE.

    I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.

    YEAH, I GOT MY FIRST TASTE OF THE NATATORIUM STUFF OVER SPRING BREAK.

    IT'S DEFINITELY STILL DRAWING PEOPLE, AND I THINK IT'S JUST A IT'S AN ASSET WE NEED TO LOOK AT JUST MAKING SURE WE MAINTAIN IT A HIGH ENOUGH LEVEL SO IT SUPPORTS THE ADDITIONAL LOAD THAT WILL BE SEEING, BUT ALSO TO THE WAY WE CURRENTLY OPERATE IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. BASICALLY AN ALL DAY, EVERY DAY KIND OF MENTALITY IS MAYBE NOT THE MOST SUSTAINABLE WAY BECAUSE MOST OF THE THE FEATURES WITHIN THE NATATORIUM ARE NOT BEING USED ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, BUT WE HAVE TO STAFF IT IN THAT WAY.

    SO IF WE LOOK MORE HOW WE OPERATE IT, HOW FREQUENT WE OPERATE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE MAY BE A COST OF OPERATIONS THAT COME DOWN WITH MINIMAL IMPACT ON USE OF OUR USERS ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO ACCESS IT.

    THE PRESENTATION YOU GAVE US THEY ARE SOME HOURS WE CAN COME BACK SOONER.

    SOME DAYS IT MAY NOT NEED TO BE OPEN JUST RIGHT.

    AND I JUST. SO YOU'LL BE OPEN FOR CONSULTATIONS AND BE ABLE TO PLAY IN.

    OH, YES. I'VE ALREADY.

    YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, SO FOR SURE.

    BUT NO I WOULD SAY I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, AS A PIECE OF ADVICE, BEING ONE OF MY FINAL PARKS BOARD MEETINGS, IF NOT MY FINAL PARKS BOARD MEETING, LEAN INTO THE NATATORIUM.

    THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO DRIVE PARTICIPATION AND OVERALL ENGAGEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT AT THE REC CENTER SPECIFICALLY, NOT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKS AND REC AS A WHOLE, BUT THAT IS THE UNIQUE FEATURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMPETITION WITH CURRENTLY ACROSS

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    AND IT DEFINITELY SEES VERY, VERY HIGH DEMAND.

    SO I WOULD THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS LIKE AS FAR AS FACILITATIES LEAN INTO THAT AND THEN WENT INTO THE GENERAL UPKEEP OF THE OTHER CORE AREAS, YOU'LL BE GOOD.

    WELL I STILL GOT YOU HERE. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON OUTSIDE.

    I'M SORRY. TAKE UP THE TIME. TAKEN ADVANTAGE, OUTSIDE I THINK MEGAN'S TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT HAVING RENTAL FACILITIES LIKE WE HAD THE DOORS OPEN IN NATATORIUM HAD SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE COULD HAVE PARTIES, WHATEVER, BUT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BACK IN THE PARTY ROOM. SOME OTHER, SOME OF THE REVENUE TO BRING IN FROM THE NATATORIUM.

    IS THERE SOME INSIGHT YOU CAN SHARE ON THAT? YEAH, I THINK IT'S THE POSSIBILITIES EXIST.

    WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF IS NOT TAKING AWAY FROM YOUR NORMAL DAY USE CUSTOMERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND DILUTING THEIR VALUE OF MEMBERSHIP OR OUR COST OF ADMISSION, BUT OR NOT PROVIDING A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT POTENTIAL RENTAL OR ARE THINGS.

    IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH MULTIPLE FACILITIES, IT REALLY HELPS TO HAVE A STAFF PERSON, WHETHER IT BE PART TIME OR FULL TIME DEDICATED TO FACILITATING THOSE SPECIFIC RENTALS.

    AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO HAVE A LOT OF RENTALS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE I WOULD SAY WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF RESOURCES TO FACILITATE LIKE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WE WOULD NEED TO EXECUTE THAT AT A HIGH LEVEL TO EXPAND IT.

    AT THIS POINT. I WOULD SAY, THOUGH, IF WE DID DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE WOULD BE A COST RECOVERY TO OFFSET THE COST OF ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON THAT COULD BE BUILT INTO THE PRICING OF DIFFERENT AMENITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

    IF YOU TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING BEYOND LIKE THE PRIVATE POOL PARTIES AND STUFF WE HAVE, BUT YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST KIND OF GO BACK AND KIND OF SAY IT ALL DAY FROM A REVENUE GENERATION STANDPOINT, IS RETENTION OF YOUR CUSTOMER BASE IS GOING TO REALLY BE THE THE BIGGEST WIN YOU'LL GET SOME SUPPLEMENTAL REVENUE FROM THINGS LIKE RENTALS AND FACILITY USES, BUT THE COST OF DEPENDING ON IF YOU'RE INVESTING IN ADDITIONAL COST TO DEVELOP SOMETHING OR IF YOU HAVE COST, IF THERE'S OPEN SPACE JUST SITTING THERE NOT BEING USED, THAT'S MONEY THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE MADE OR SERVICE COULD BE OFFERED.

    BUT YEAH, THE GENERAL THE BALANCE OF THE COST VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IS WHAT REALLY HAS TO BE PLAYED OUT IN THE LONG TERM.

    AND I CAN'T SAY THAT I'VE DONE THAT YET.

    I JUST KNOW THERE YOU CAN BE VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH LIKE PARTIES AND FACILITY RENTALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU DO IT INTENTIONALLY OR IT CAN BE A MAJOR DRAIN ON YOUR STAFF AND YOUR RESOURCES TO WHERE YOU SACRIFICE OTHER AREAS.

    ONE LAST THING, BUT THE TOURS WE TOOK AND I DID THE ONE WHEN WE HAD THE ANGLETON UNIVERSITY THING AND MY SPOT THINGS, BUT THERE WAS SOME RUST IN DIFFERENT PLACES IN THAT.

    AM THERE'S I THINK SOME PEOPLE TOLD ME LIGHTING ISSUES I HAD ONE OF THE ABLC BOARD MEMBERS SAID THAT SENIORS THAT USE THE FACILITIES WON'T CHANGE AND THE CHANGE ROOMS OR STUFF GOING OUT THERE. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND WE BETTER POLICE THE MAINTENANCE OF FACILITY OR HOW TO IF IT HADN'T BEEN BEING DONE, MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE.

    YEAH. SO JUST TO FEEL YOU, STEWART AND I ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH A FACILITY WALK THROUGH LAST WEEK TO KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THROUGH OUR FACILITY ASSESSMENTS. AND I KNOW THIS IS IT'S REALLY THE BUDGET, BUT AND SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT TO KIND OF SEE WHAT ARE THE AREAS THAT WE CAN START ADDRESSING OURSELVES.

    WE CAN START ADDRESSING EITHER THROUGH CONTRACT OR WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE A MAJOR EXPENSE TO BRING BACK UP TO SPEED.

    SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'M DOING IN THE NEXT MONTH BASICALLY IS WORKING THROUGH CREATING THE PUNCH LIST FOR GENERAL ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

    SOME OF THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED FROM PRIORITIZATION STANDPOINT WITH ABLC AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE INVOLVED.

    BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS GOING IN THERE.

    BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE RUST IN THE NATATORIUM, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. SO NOW WE HAVE TO CATCH UP TO GET IT TO UP TO SPEED AND THEN PREVENT IT FROM DETERIORATING.

    SAME THING WITH EXAMPLES OF LIKE LIGHTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

    WE HAVE TO SPEND SIGNIFICANT TIME TO GET THAT UP TO SPEED AND THEN HAVE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE MEASURES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO CATCH THAT FROM DOING THERE.

    SO WE'RE WORKING PRETTY DILIGENTLY AND I'M GOING TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE.

    THAT'S A BIG PART OF MY REMAINING TIME, IS TRYING TO KIND OF CREATE THE ROADMAP AND FACILITATE THOSE THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN BE HANDED OFF TO COMPETENT STAFF TO CARRY OUT.

    AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING LIKE ANYWHERE I'VE WORKED AT BEFORE, IT'S THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN PART OF OPERATIONS AND THINGS.

    AND THERE ARE THINGS YOU LEARN.

    LIKE, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW, 18 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

    SO I'VE LEARNED THROUGH YEARS OF DOING IT AND YOU JUST PICK THAT UP AS YOU GO.

    SO WHILE THAT BE HANDED OFF AS WE GO A VERY INTENTIONALLY THOUGH SO THAT WE CAN ONE MAKE IMPROVEMENTS FROM WHERE WE'RE AT TO GET UP TO WHERE OUR STANDARD WE WOULD LIKE OUR STANDARD TO BE, BUT THEN ALSO TO JUST HAVE THAT PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN, THAT

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    FORESIGHT THAT WE'RE UPDATING ASSETS ON A SCHEDULE VERSUS KIND OF MORE AS A BREAK FIX MENTALITY KIND OF THING AND THEN GOING FROM THERE.

    SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK TOO STEWART'S DONE WELL AND MOVE TOWARDS.

    YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN EXAMPLES OF THAT THROUGH PARKS, MAINTENANCE AND THINGS.

    AND SO HAVING HIM HELP FACILITATE SOME OF THE NOT NECESSARILY THE HE WON'T BE THE ONE DOING THE MAINTENANCE OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

    HE HAS HIS OWN JOB WITH PARKS, BUT HAVING THAT RESOURCE THERE, AS WE LOOK TRANSITION, HE'LL DEFINITELY BE SOMEBODY WHO CAN PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO WHOEVER MAY COME IN AFTER ME AS WELL. SO SO PART OF THE REORG IS TO HELP STAFF HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PUT ALL OF THESE MEASURES IN PLACE. WE BEFORE HAD A RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT WHO IS MANAGING STAFF WHO REQUIRED ADDITIONAL TRAINING TO IMPLEMENT PROGRAMING AND SPECIAL EVENTS IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE JOBS RELATED TO DIRECTING AND TRAINING AND MAINTAINING THE FACILITY.

    SO REORGANIZING AND RESTRUCTURING HOW WE'RE DOING THAT AND HAVING A SUPERINTENDENT OVER RECREATION AND A SUPERINTENDENT OVER FACILITY OPERATIONS WILL HELP US INCREASE THAT CAPACITY IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THESE A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

    KYLE HADN'T BEEN HERE LONG, BUT HE DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB.

    I MEAN, HE WOULD SEE THINGS AND DO THINGS IN WAYS WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT.

    SO IT'S KIND OF. WHATEVER YOU CAN GET FROM HIM.

    YES, WE WILL MAINTAIN CONTACT.

    I'M SORRY. ON THAT NOTE, THOUGH, ON THE BUDGET NOTE, IS THERE ANY CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING BEFORE WE BRING THIS BACK TO YOU IN JUNE? ANYTHING THAT STUCK OUT TO YOU.

    ALL RIGHT. READY TO ADJOURN? WE ARE 6:59 ADJOURNED.

    THANK YOU.

    * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.