Apr 18, 2022 Angleton Better Living Corporation

OK. IT IS 5:30.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

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WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE WILL START WITH RECREATION INTO ITEM NUMBER ONE DISCUSSION

[1. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Better Living Corporation meeting of March 21, 2022.]

TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES [INAUDIBLE] MARCH 21ST OF 2022 MEETING. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 2 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ABLC AND RECREATION CENTER

[2. Discussion and possible action on the ABLC and Recreation Center Preliminary YTD Financial Statements March 2022.]

FINANCIAL STATEMENTS MARCH HELLO.

SO I'M TENECHA WILLIAMS. I'M THE INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR.

AND SO I DID SEND SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS OUT, BUT ALSO I WANTED TO PROVIDE THE NEW NUMBERS FOR YOUR SALES TAX HISTORY SINCE THE PAYMENT DID COME IN IN APRIL FOR FEBRUARY.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE SALES TAX, HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S TWO MONTHS BEHIND. SO JANUARY WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S REFLECTED IN YOUR MARCH FINANCIALS.

AND SO THE SALES TAX THAT WAS RECEIVED ABLC'S PORTION FOR FEBRUARY'S $127,948.19. AND THEN THAT THAT BRINGS DOWN THE DEFICIT THAT YOU SEE ON THE BALANCE SHEET OF THE $404,744.33, IT'LL BRING THAT DOWN 276,796.14.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'LL STILL ANTICIPATE THE MARCH SALES TAX.

YES, MA'AM.

OK, TENECHA.

OKAY. ON THE ACTUAL REVENUES WHERE WE'RE RECORDING SALES TAX PORTION ON THE FIRST PAGE.

ANGLETON BETTER LIVING, WHICH HAS AN ACTUAL OF 593,000.

I'M GOING TO ROUND IT OK 594,000.

MM HMM. NOW, THAT IS, IN FACT, THE SUMMATION ON OUR SALES TAX HISTORY FOR ALL THE MONTHS. SO I'M CONFUSED WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IS FOR JANUARY.

SO SAY THAT AGAIN.

SO SINCE I DIDN'T FOLLOW THAT.

SORRY. OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

SO FOR JANUARY, YOU HAVE THE JANUARY CAME IN IN MARCH.

I GET THAT.

IT'S TOO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TOO MONTHS LATE.

IT IS SO SO ON THE ANGLETON SALES TAX, THE SUMMARY HERE.

RIGHT. SO WE'VE ALWAYS STARTED DECEMBER THROUGH NOVEMBER BECAUSE IT'S GOT THAT TWO MONTH. RIGHT [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH. SO THAT'S, THE WAY IT ALWAYS IS.

ALWAYS. RIGHT. SO WHAT WAS IN THE PACKET.

THANKS FOR THE EXTRA ONE THAT'S COME IN.

BUT WHAT WAS REFLECTED IN THE PACKET HAS ON THAT, STATEMENT WHICH IS DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH. OKAY.

THAT TOTALS THE 590.

I'M GOING TO SAY 94, 594.

OKAY. 593,832.84, WHICH IS EQUAL TO THE TOTAL YEAR TO DATE, ACTUAL SALES THAT ARE REFLECTED ON THE STATEMENTS.

SO I'M CONFUSED WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT HAS A DIFFERENT TIMING.

THE TIMING HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME.

RIGHT.

SO WHEN THE FIVE THE 500 AND CHANGE THAT CAME FROM JUST THE TOTAL, LIKE YOU SAY, DECEMBER TO MARCH, RIGHT? THAT WAS THE TOTAL OF ALL OF THOSE.

THEN I ADDED THE 127 ON THIS, [INAUDIBLE] SPREADSHEET, I JUST HAND IT OUT AND THAT GIVES YOU THE NEW 721 TOTAL.

OKAY. THE STATEMENT IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM SUMMARY FORM ON PAGE SEVEN, NOTHING'S EVER NUMBERED, SO IT'S HARD TO REFER TO IT.

OKAY. IT'S 418.

IT'S REFERRING TO THE, THE, THE MEMO, THE AGENDA PAGE.

IT WAS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT HERE? I CAN'T FIND THERE'S NO PAGE NUMBER TWO AND AND PAGE NUMBER THE PAGES AT THE BOTTOM.

OKAY, BUT, BUT GUESS WHAT? WHEN YOU PRINT THEM OUT AT YOUR HOME, NOTHING EVER GETS NUMBERED.

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PAGE SIX.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS CUT THE DEFICIT DOWN FROM 400 FOR.

SO TO GET THE 404, WHICH IS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

RIGHT. THE 404 REFLECTS THE TOTAL LOSS, BUT ALL YOU'RE ADDING IN IS JUST THE SALES.

YOU'RE ADDING IN THE SALES RECEIPTS, THE SALES TAX REVENUE, AND YOU'RE NOT ADDING IN ANY OF THE CORRESPONDING EXPENSES.

IT ALWAYS HAPPENS ON A TIMING.

SO I'M TRYING TO.

SO I DON'T THINK IT IT IS NOT A GOOD MATCHING CONCEPT TO JUST ADD THE SALES TAX REVENUE IN WHEN IT'S ALWAYS TO IT'S ALWAYS TWO MONTHS LATE, BUT EVERY MONTH HAS SALARIES AND UTILITIES.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS A MATCHING.

SO I'M.

I DON'T FOLLOW WHY WE DO IT THIS WAY.

WHILE WE DO IT, THE WAY OF HAVING IT, WHERE IT COMES IN WITH THE TWO MONTHS BEHIND.

I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHICH WAY YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.

DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, SO, SO ON OUR ON OUR SALES TAX INFORMATION.

OKAY, WE'VE GOT THAT PERIOD DECEMBER THROUGH MARCH.

SO THAT THEN THAT PERIOD, THAT SAME CORRESPONDING SALES TAX RECEIPTS IN REVENUES PLUS ANY OTHER LITTLE, LITTLE BIT OF INTEREST INCOME, ETC..

AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE CORRESPONDING EXPENSES ON THE EXPENDITURE SEAT.

SO, SO WHY DO, DO WE NOT JUST SAY, OKAY, THAT'S OUR LOSS? I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN SAY IN A WAY THAT'S OUR LAST YEAR TODAY.

IT IS, YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S WHAT'S REFLECTED IN THE RIGHT AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT ALL OF IT IS YEAR TODAY.

YES. SO YEAH.

SO YOUR SALES TAX HISTORY IS YEAR TO DATE AND THEN YOUR EXPENSES IS YEAR TO DATE.

SO YEAH. SO I THINK.

BUT YOU WANT TO KNOW.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NOT AT ALL.

BUT. BUT WHEN IT SAID THAT IT REDUCED THE CURRENT DEFICIT DOWN FROM 404, WHICH IS THE LOSS THROUGH MARCH.

ALL YOU'VE COUNTED IS THE SALES TAX THAT HAPPENED TO COME IN.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND I THINK THE REASON WHY YOU'RE SAYING IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS OR YOU THINK IT IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE COMPLETE SALES TAX FOR JANUARY THROUGH MARCH ON HERE, BUT WE DO HAVE ALL THE EXPENSES FOR JANUARY THROUGH MARCH ON HERE. SO IT IS GOING TO SHOW STILL THERE'S THE DEFICIT BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE YEAR TO DATE EXPENSES, BUT YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ALL THE YEAR TO DATE REVENUE YET.

A BETTER WAY OF TAKING OUT THE MONTHS THAT HAVE IT.

YEAH. I GOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

FOUR MONTHS OF EXPENDITURE, FOUR MONTHS OF X.

YEAH, I CAN DO THAT.

OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT.

YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS OF EXPENDITURE IN FOUR MONTHS.

GOTCHA. OKAY.

I THINK IF WE DON'T GET SO CAUGHT UP IN I MEAN, WHEN THE SALES TAX COME IN IS WHEN IT COMES IN. RIGHT. WE CAN'T MAKE THEM GET IT HERE ANY QUICKER.

RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT. RIGHT.

AND NOBODY CAN. THAT'S JUST HOW IT OPERATES.

SO SO THE, THE PURPOSE THAT WE'VE USED THIS ANGLETON SALES TAX HISTORY FOR THE LONGEST TIME IS TO SEE HOW ARE WE TRENDING? IS IT GOING UP OR DOWN? AND IT'S ALWAYS TWO MONTHS LATE AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE TOO MUCH.

RIGHT. OKAY. SO, I MEAN, AND WE LOVE HEARING WHEN, WHEN WE GET IT THAT IT'S TRENDING UP OR IT'S GETTING MORE OC, WHICH IS GOOD FOR US TO LOOK FROM A FORECASTING POINT OF VIEW, BUT IT CAN GET CONFUSING WHEN THE MEMO COMES OUT.

THAT JUST SPEAKS TO A SNAPSHOT OF ONE THING.

MM HMM. OKAY.

OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY, AND IT'S OC BECAUSE IT'S AS FULL ACCOUNTING AS CAN HAPPEN.

RIGHT. OKAY.

SO. SO THE GREAT THING IS, IS THROUGH.

THROUGH. DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH EIGHT, APRIL, WHICH IS ON HERE THAT WE ARE NOW AT A 9.25% INCREASE.

CORRECT. OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

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SO THIS IS REALLY MATHEMATICALLY HARD TO FIND BECAUSE NONE OF THESE THINGS TOTAL.

OKAY. BUT I COULD I REALIZE THAT WE WERE AT A LOSS, BUT WE'RE COMING OUT OF IT.

SO IT IT WOULD ALMOST BE MORE HELPFUL TO ME AS A CPA TO NOT DEAL WITH ONE LINE ITEM ON ONE THING TO SAY, HEY, SALES TAXES ARE STILL TRENDING UP.

NOW WE'RE UP TO THAT, AS OPPOSED TO SAYING THAT THAT IT'S REDUCED THE DEFICIT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FULL SET OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THAT IS THEN FOR THAT NEXT MONTH THAT WAS REFLECTING WHEN THAT GOES IN.

YES. RIGHT.

SO THIS LINE HERE IS JUST SOMETHING NEW SHOWING COMPARISON.

I REMEMBER SEEING THAT ON. WELL, WE HAVEN'T.

BUT BUT IF YOU IF YOU GO BACK TO THE UNDERLYING, YOU CAN SEE THAT.

YEAH, WELL BUT THIS IS THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION.

THE SECOND PARAGRAPH THERE, THE 43% VERSUS.

RIGHT. RIGHT.

GOTCHA. IN THE PAST, I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING THERE, BUT THAT IS HELPFUL TO SEE HOW IT'S HOW IT'S TRENDING BECAUSE IT GIVES IT'S A TREND.

RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY.

WAIT. I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THAT.

NO PROBLEM. THAT'S HELPFUL.

NO. SO, LIKE YOU SAY, JUST FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THE AGENDA ITEM WHERE YOU SAY THE REC CENTER REVENUE IS ABOUT 43% OF THE EXPECTED 50% AT MIDYEAR.

PARKS AND REC STAFF HAS, OF COURSE, PLANS TO INCREASE THAT, AND I'M SURE THEY'LL SPEAK TO THAT SOON. BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE FINANCIALS AS WELL, WE CAN ANSWER ANY OF THOSE AS WELL.

SO THROUGH MARCH, WHERE WE'RE AT AND I'M GOING BACK TO THE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS I'M WHICH IS REFERRED TO IN HERE WE ARE WE ARE APPROXIMATELY 30% OF IF WE LOOK AT FOUR MONTHS SO.

WHERE WE'RE AT 30%.

BUT IT ONLY HAS FOUR MONTHS.

RIGHT. YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR MONTHS.

NOVEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

OKAY. WE'RE FOUR MONTHS ON THERE.

BUT WITH THE NEW REPORT, YOU HAVE FIVE MONTHS.

AND THAT IS SO CONFUSING.

JOHN, DO YOU KNOW WHY WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO KEEP THIS THIS WAY? YOU KNOW, IT'S THE LAYOUT OF IT.

NO, NO, NO. THE FACT THAT WE WE ARE TRYING TO WE CALL IT IT'S REALLY SALES TAX RECEIPTS. BECAUSE DECEMBER RECEIPT IS FOR OCTOBER.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH A TIME PERIOD TO TIME PERIOD.

BUT IT'S REAL EASY TO THIS CALENDAR YEAR VERSUS OUR FISCAL.

RIGHT. IT WOULD BE BETTER REFLECTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR.

YEAH. SO NOW I WILL SAY ON THE SALES TAX HISTORY REPORT, THOUGH, THAT'S WHY I THINK IT STARTS DECEMBER IN NOVEMBER, BECAUSE THAT STARTS WITH THE OCTOBER FISCAL YEAR.

EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH.

SO SO SOMETIMES IT GETS DIFFICULT WHEN WE'RE REFERRING TO IT BECAUSE THE SALES TAX HISTORY. IT IS REALLY OCTOBER, RIGHT? IT'S NOT THE MONTH YOU ACTUALLY SEE ON THE DOCUMENT, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY.

SO SO IT ALWAYS WHICH MAY BE WHY ALL THE EMPHASIS ON THIS FIRST PARAGRAPH, WHICH IS HISTORICAL, THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN COMING TO US.

BUT IT CAN GET A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE OF TRYING TO MATCH UP WITH WITH EXPENSES YOU DON'T HAVE. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS OF EXPENSES AND FOUR MONTHS OF REVENUES.

RIGHT. SO MOVING FORWARD, ARE YOU WANTING TO JUST HAVE THOSE FOUR MONTHS OF REVENUE REFLECTED WITH THE FOUR MONTHS OF EXPENSES? NO. I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL ON THE SALES TAX HISTORY IF IF IT'S MORE EMPHASIZED THAT DECEMBER RECEIPTS ARE FOR OCTOBER.

OKAY. SO THAT SO THAT WE DON'T.

SO THAT WE REALIZE THAT.

THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CATCH UP FOR REVENUES AT THE END.

SO THERE'S AN ABILITY TO CATCH UP.

AND AND THE FACT IS, WE KNOW WE OR I KNOW THAT THE LOSS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE BIGGER REPORTED IN ACTUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAN WHAT IT REALLY IS BECAUSE OF THE DELAY.

RIGHT. FOR RECEIVING THE SALES TAX.

SO AS OPPOSED TO THIS EMPHASIS TO TO KEEP SAYING IT OR TO KEEP UP WITH IT AND OF

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BUT I I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THAT DIFFICULT IN SPEAKING TO IT BECAUSE IT'S DESCRIBED AS DECEMBER THROUGH NOVEMBER IN WAYS AND WE'RE DOING THAT IS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE IT TO A FISCAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT, PERIOD.

GOTCHA. OKAY. YES.

YEAH I DO.

ON. SORRY I LOST MY PAGE ON ON.

BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CURRENT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THROUGH MARCH, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. ON ON THE ITEM THAT IS DESCRIBED AS PROJECT DESIGN, WHICH WAS 400,000 FROM LAST BUDGET, DARN IT.

ON PAGE NINE ON THE TABLET.

HOW DO YOU GET IT BACK ON CAPITAL EXPENDITURES? WHAT DID YOU DO? I DON'T KNOW.

THERE YOU GO. DAWN PHOTO.

NO, NO. THERE WE GO.

SORRY. ON THE OC.

HERE'S. THIS IS ON PAGE NINE, ITEM TWO.

NOW, INITIALLY, MEGAN, THE BUDGET THAT GOT PASSED FOR US HAD 400,000 AS PROJECT DESIGN, BUT WE SAID WE WEREN'T DOING THAT.

BUT I CAN SEE THAT 98,000 HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID TOWARDS THAT.

OKAY. NOW I CAN SPEAK TO THE 98,000 THAT IS A PART OF THE PROJECT LIST THAT IS ON PAGE SIX AND 18 AND YOUR PACKET.

AND SO THAT 98,000, IT ACTUALLY IS JUST PROBABLY JUST NEEDS TO BE RECLASSIFIED INTO THE OTHER. GL IT SHOULD GO INTO THE OTHER PARK PROJECTS DEAL, WHICH IS 506 6 TO 5.01.

MM HMM. AND THAT IS WHAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES UP THAT 141,300 OC.

YEAH. YES.

AND THE MID-YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS.

YEAH. WILL BE COMING OUT IN MAY FOR APPROVAL.

RIGHT. OKAY. SO WHEN IT THEN IN THE NEXT LINE ITEM, WHEN IT SAYS TOTAL ENCUMBERED, WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, WHAT IS WHAT'S SO THE TOTAL ENCUMBERED IS A IT'S ABOUT THREE INVOICES.

SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS ONCE OUR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE GETS THOSE INVOICES OR THOSE AMOUNTS THAT WILL BE BUDGETED, THEY PUT IT IN OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM THAT SAYS, HEY, KIM LONGHORN WILL HAVE 100,000.

AND OF THAT WE SPENT 15,800.

SO THE ENCUMBERED IS WHAT STILL IN OUR SYSTEM TO BE PAID.

IT JUST HASN'T BEEN PAID OUT.

SO THAT DOES CONTINUE TO GO DOWN BELOW TO.

RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY.

SO SO WE HAVE TO SEE THAT ALL OF THAT LINE ITEM NEEDS TO GO DOWN BELOW TO OTHER PARK PROJECT.

OKAY. AND SO, SO ARE WE GOING TO BE OVERBUDGET THERE BECAUSE IT SAYS 174 IS THE BUDGET REMAINING AND YOU'VE GOT TOTAL ENCUMBERED OF 206 90 PLUS THE 98 NEEDS TO GO OUT. YES. SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT OVERBUDGET.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

SO SO HOW CAN WE GET THE DETAIL OF THAT? WHAT IS WHAT'S WHAT? I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THAT 106,900 CONSISTS OF.

ABSOLUTELY. SO 76,900 IS FOR TEC LAND SPORTS.

30,000 IS FOR THE CLASSIC SPORTS, WHICH IS ON YOUR PROJECT LIST.

AND THEN THE OTHER 100,000 IS FOR KIMBERLEY HORN.

AND THAT'S ON PAGE 18.

YES, IT IS ON YOUR PACK AT PAGE 18 UNDER THOSE TOTAL COSTS, THAT TOTAL COST COLUMN.

SO THE TOTAL COST ON PAGE 18 SHOWS THAT IT'S A 384,900.

RIGHT. AND THE REASON WHY I SAID THE 76 NINE IS STILL LEFT FOR TECH LINE SPORTS, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THAT 93,000 HAS ALREADY BEEN EXPENSED.

OF THAT 169 NINE.

OKAY. SO, SO THE OTHER PART PROJECTS OF THE 217 740.

WHAT'S IN THAT?

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SO ARE WE REALLY PLANNING TO BUDGET 617,000? WELL, BUT THAT'S WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION, TOO.

SO ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK A PORTION OF THAT WAS GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF SOME OF THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS PART OF THAT THAT DOCUMENT ON PAGE 18. BUT AS THE REVENUES COME IN AND AS YOU KNOW, THE BOARD FEELS NECESSARY, YOU CAN CUT OR ADD HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE.

BECAUSE TECHNICALLY IT WOULD BE OVERBUDGET, LIKE WE LIKE YOU JUST SAID EARLIER.

OKAY. SO SO ON PAGE 18.

WHAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE IS WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING TO SPEND $612,000.

TO DO THESE.

THE THE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

CAN'T BE JUST FOUR. OKAY, SO, SO, SO I GOT THE FOUR AND WE'RE UP TO DATE.

SO, MEGAN, WHAT'S IN THE TWO? 17. IT'S THAT PROJECT LIST.

SO ALL THOSE PROJECTS ON PAGE 18 IS WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THAT OTHER PARK.

OTHER PARK PROJECTS.

THE FREEDOM PARK DESIGN THAT IS GOING BACK TO YOUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE.

SO WHILE IT MAY BE REFLECTED IN THERE, IT IS NOT WE'RE.

THAT WILL GO BACK.

BASED OFF WHAT WE WERE ALL IN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT BUT.

SO LET ME LET ME TRY TO ASK IT DIFFERENTLY WHEN I LOOK AT AT 18 AND JUST FOLLOWING WHAT TANISHA WAS WAS GIVING ME AND LOOKING AT, WE GOT A LITTLE MISCLASSIFICATION.

WE'RE GOING TO FIX THAT.

BUT IT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD WAS THAT WE'RE SPENDING 612,000.

NO. SO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE OF THE 384 NINE OC AND WHAT WAS BUDGETED THE 217 SO THAT'S ONE OVER. SO I JUST HAVE TO BRING THAT FROM I DON'T MEAN TO BELABOR IT, BUT BUT YOU'LL GET MORE DIRECT QUESTIONS FROM ME.

SO, OKAY, SO WE AREN'T OVER BUDGET BECAUSE THE 217 ENCOMPASSES THE LIST, BUT IT'S OVER THAT IT'S IT'S A MORE IT EXCEEDS THAT BUT NOT THE FULL 617,000.

RIGHT. OKAY. AND WHEN IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN? WHEN I MEAN, WHEN ARE THOSE BUDGET AMENDMENTS HAPPENING? OH, SO THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS WILL GO TOWARDS GO FOR APPROVAL IN MAY.

SO, YES.

SO FOR THE MAY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OR IN MAY, FOR JUNE.

IN MAY. FOR JUNE, YOU'LL SEE IT.

AND AND AND DO WE JUST HISTORICALLY WAIT TILL THEN TO DO THINGS THAT WE HAD DONE MONTHS AGO? I MEAN, IS THAT JUST IS THAT THE TIMING? IS THAT HOW IT WORKS? USUALLY IT'S JUST CALLED MID-YEAR MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

SO MID-YEAR WOULD BE BEFORE JUNE.

RIGHT. YEAH.

OKAY. YOU AND I CAN SPEAK THAT.

SPEAK TOGETHER. SO? SO. OKAY.

MAYBE IT'S. SHE'S PROBABLY ALREADY STARTED HER.

IT TAKES HER A COUPLE OF MONTHS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY.

RIGHT. BUT WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG WHEN YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE IN? YEAH. IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD CREATE LESS QUESTIONS IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET IT CHANGED AND REALIZE I WOULD ASSUME THAT OURS FOR AB LC ARE MUCH SIMPLER THAN THE CITIES.

CITIES GOT A WHOLE LOT OF MORE GENERAL LEDGER ACCOUNTS AND A LOT MORE GOING BACK AND FORTH. SO IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE SINCE, SINCE WE ALREADY KNEW THAT MONTHS AGO TO, TO, TO FIX THOSE THINGS.

AND THAT WAY WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO. SO THE REMAINING FUND BALANCE THAT'S REFLECTED ON 18 BE 612 IS 612 AND THAT IS.

AS OF WHAT DATE? WELL, THAT'S JUST 612 AS OF THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR ONCE YOU FINISH SPENDING ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

SO ONCE ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE EXPENDED, THEN THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE REMAINING FUND BALANCE OF 612 BECAUSE SOME OF THAT IS GOING TO COME FROM YOUR EXISTING 779 FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS ASSUMING THAT WE GET ALL THE SALES TAX RECEIPTS THAT 14% INCREASE.

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BUT IT'S NOT REALLY THE FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. SO EVERY MONTH THE THE ALLOCATION THAT COMES FROM A LC ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO FUND THE REC CENTER, THAT ENTRY IS COMING OUT 1/12 EVERY MONTH.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

OKAY. AND THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE OCCASIONALLY THAT DIDN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN.

AND THEN IT AND THEN IT CAUGHT UP.

OKAY. SO.

THE OTHER BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT REALLY NEEDED TO GO THROUGH IS ON THE.

PAGE. OKAY, HANG ON.

I THINK IT'S PAGE 11.

THE FIGURE WAS MISCALCULATED ON LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

YES. AND I MADE NOTE OF THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO SO IT STANDS OUT LIKE A BIG ANOMALY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT.

SO THAT WAS ONE THAT WE KNEW THAT WE HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED EARLIER.

AND. AND THE WORKERS COMP WAS THE ONE PAID ONE TIME AND IT'S ALREADY DONE.

SO THAT'S WHY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. NOW THE OTHER THING AND I MIGHT NEED IT MIGHT NEED MEGAN OR KYLE TO ANSWER THIS BECAUSE IT'S MORE OPERATIONAL.

BUT I NEED SOMEBODY TO EXPLAIN THE CONTRACT AND INSTRUCTORS.

OKAY. SO ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS HERE THROUGH MARCH, WE'VE WE'VE SPENT 44% OF THE BUDGET, WHICH WE'RE THROUGH 50%.

SO THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT BAD.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ON PAGE.

HANG ON. I THINK IT'S.

YES. IT'S ON PAGE 12, MEGAN.

SO ON PAGE 12, CONTRACT INSTRUCTORS.

SO ALL OF THE.

THE EMPLOYEES, THE FOLKS WHO WORK AT THE REC CENTER DON'T TEACH ANY CLASSES.

WE USE CONTRACT INSTRUCTORS TO DO THAT.

RIGHT. OKAY.

SO HOW DO WE DECIDE HOW WE HOW WE USE THAT? SO TRADITIONALLY IT HAS BEEN BASED ON THE DEMAND FOR THE CLASS.

IT'S ALSO BEEN BASED ON LIKE FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH JUST OUR RECENT ASSESSMENT OF THE PROGRAM NEEDS FEEDBACK FROM SURVEY FEEDBACK.

WE ALSO TRACK THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS THAT GO TO EACH CLASS.

OKAY? IF WE AREN'T IF IT'S NOT SERVING A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE, THEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION TO REMOVE SOME OF THOSE CLASSES.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH OUR 5:30 A.M.

CLASSES. YOU DON'T SEE THOSE ON SCHEDULE ANY LONGER BECAUSE WE HAD ABOUT A CONSISTENT AVERAGE OF THREE PEOPLE PER CLASS.

OKAY, SUPER.

OKAY. SO SO THERE'S A THERE'S A SCHEDULE FOR WHAT THE PLAN IS.

BUT IF THOSE CLASSES ARE ARE NOT AN OPTIMAL NUMBER, THEN WE'LL GIVE THE CLASS SOME NOTICE AND SAY, HEY, WE JUST REALLY CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR A, A CONTRACT LABOR THAT'S GOING TO COME IN AND AND ADMINISTER OR OVERSEE THOSE CLASSES.

RIGHT. RIGHT. AND KYLE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH JERRY A LITTLE BIT.

MOST RECENTLY, WE HAD ANOTHER CLASS.

IT WAS A WATER AEROBICS CLASS WHERE WE WERE GETTING JUST THE COST RECOVERY NUMBER AND WHAT WE NEEDED TO SEE PER PER CLASS.

SO WE'RE UTILIZING THAT WELL A LITTLE BIT MORE.

YEAH. AND SO, SO THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, IS WE WANT TO MEET MEMBERS NEEDS, WE WANT TO HAVE FOLKS THERE THAT ARE SERVING THE MEMBER'S NEEDS.

BUT IT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE THAT WE KEEP OUR EYE ON BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE PAYING CONTRACT LABOR FOR A CLASS THAT'S UNDERSERVED.

AND LUCKILY, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH OUR THOSE INSTRUCTORS, HOPEFULLY NOT SAY, WELL, TAMARA, DON'T COME OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, GIVE, GIVE SOME NOTICE BECAUSE I LIKE THAT IT'S LOWER, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE ACTUAL COST OF EVERYTHING.

AND WE ARE SO UNDERSHOOTING THAT THAT WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO BE ON TOP OF IT.

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CORRECT. OC MEMBER CAN GO TO ANY CLASS.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE MEMBERS.

SO WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE MEMBERS WHO ARE A MEMBER OF THE GYM AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH, BUT I LOVE THE X CLASS.

AND THEN WE SAY, WELL, WE, WE'RE NOT OFFERING THAT ANYMORE.

SO WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO NOT OFFER GOOD VALUE FOR OUR, OUR MEMBERS WHO ARE COMING IN FOR CLASSES. NOW, CAN SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT A MEMBER PAY A DAY AND THEN COME AND DO THE X CLASS? YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.

YEAH. OKAY. AND SO JUST TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I'LL JUST REFERENCE BACK TO THIS BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT PERCENTAGES OF EXPENSES, IT'S NOT LINEARLY DIVIDED OUT BY 12. AND SO LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 40 SOMETHING PERCENT.

WE'RE NOT QUITE AT 40% OF THE YEAR POSSIBLY, OR WE'RE CLOSE TO IT.

BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING TO APPLY LINEARLY.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT SPIKES AND DIFFERENT SEASONAL SHIFTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND CHANGE IN OPERATIONS. SO IT MAY BE BELOW OUR NORMAL SCHEDULE FOR PART OF THE YEAR, ABOVE OUR NORMAL SCHEDULE FOR PART OF THE YEAR AS WELL.

BUT YEAH, CORRECT. SO WHAT MEGAN WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE ARE EVALUATING OUR CLASSES, WHAT WE'RE OFFERING OUR INSTRUCTORS, THE PAY FOR OUR INSTRUCTORS, THE PERFORMANCE OF THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM A COST RECOVERY STANDPOINT, AS MENTIONED, IS IT'S VERY HARD TO DETERMINE COST RECOVERY SPECIFICALLY ON JUST A SINGULAR GROUP EXERCISE CLASS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A 1 TO 1 FEE FOR GROUP EXERCISE.

YOU DON'T PAY A FEE FOR GROUP EXERCISE, YOU PAY A FEE FOR A MEMBERSHIP.

SO YOUR COST RECOVERY REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERSHIP VERSUS THE VALUE OF THE WHOLE FACILITIES.

OPERATIONS AND THEN GROUP EXERCISE PROGRAMING WOULD MAKE UP A PORTION OF VALUE FOR THAT. SO, SO COST RECOVERY IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE WE HAVE LOOKED AT FROM A WAY OF EVALUATING THAT FOR SETTING OUR CLASS MINIMUMS, BUT LOOKED AT THAT MORE AS FAR AS WHAT IMPACT ARE WE EXPECTING BASED OFF THE TIME OF DAY, THE NUMBER OF CLASSES, OUR NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS NEEDED TO JUSTIFY OUR CLASS TAKING UP THAT REAL ESTATE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE COST RECOVERY IS NOT REALLY A 1 TO 1 RATIO AND THAT IN THAT CASE.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL.

AND THEN THE JUST A NOTE.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT APPLES TO APPLES FROM LAST YEAR, I NOTED THIS JUST LOOKING AT MONTHS TO DATE.

SO THROUGH MARCH LAST YEAR, THROUGH MARCH THIS YEAR.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE COMING BACK FROM A UNIQUE YEAR, BUT WE ARE ABOUT 37 ISH THOUSAND AHEAD OF WHERE WE ARE AT REVENUE WISE IN COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR.

AND THAT'S PRIMARILY MADE UP IN DAY PAST AND AND MEMBERSHIP USAGE.

SO IT IS TRENDING UP.

SO FOR SIMILAR EXPENSES, IT IS IMPROVING AND THAT'S SO FAR IMPROVEMENT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SEE WITHOUT. IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC CHANGES WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT. SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT CONTEXT TO JUST BECAUSE OF THE REVENUE TIMING OF THINGS, BECAUSE THE LION'S SHARE OF REVENUE WE'RE GOING TO SEE FOR THE YEAR IS GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN JUNE AND AUGUST.

OKAY. SO THAT'S GONNA CREATE A HUGE SPIKE.

SO IT MAY LOOK LIKE WE'RE LAGGING TOWARDS GOAL.

IF YOU JUST LOOKED AT A PERCENTAGE OF GOAL FOR PERCENTAGE OF THE YEAR, BUT YEAR TO DATE, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, WE ARE ABOUT 37,000 AHEAD.

SO IF YOU CAN EXTRAPOLATE THAT ACROSS THE THE BUSY PERIOD WHERE WE SEE OUR PEAK, THAT'S GOING TO REGULATE THINGS A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE SHOULD SEE A PRETTY GOOD INCREASE IN YEAR END REVENUE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, EVEN IF OUR REVENUES PERCENTAGE WISE MAY BE CURRENTLY LAGGING THE ANNUAL CALENDAR.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.

THANK YOU. WELL, AND THAT'S THE HARD PART, BECAUSE MEMBERS IF EVERYBODY IN THE CLASS IS IT FOUR MEMBERS, IS IT FIVE MEMBERS? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BECAUSE HERE YOU'VE GOT A MEMBER WHO WHO WANTS TO GO TO THAT CLASS.

SO I'M SURE IT'S NOT JUST A MATHEMATICAL CALCULATION, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, AS YOU SAID, BEST USE OF THAT ROOM, OF THAT REAL ESTATE THAT THEY'RE OCCUPYING. EXERCISE CLASSES ARE A VALUE ADD FOR FACILITY USE AND MEMBERSHIP, REALLY.

AND SO IT IS AN OPERATIONAL EXPENSE.

AND SO JUST ALSO KEEP IN MIND, IF A CLASS IS STRUGGLING, SO IF WE HAD A TUESDAY 5 P.M.

530 PEAK TIME CLASS, IT'S STRUGGLING TO MEET.

WE MAY NOT JUST CANCEL THAT CLASS, WE MAY JUST REPLACE THE FORMAT OR THE INSTRUCTOR BECAUSE IF IF WE HAVE A PEAK TIME AND THE CLASS, IS THAT PERFORMING RELATIVE TO THE PEAK TIME, IT MEANS DEMAND IS JUST RELATIVELY LOW.

SO WE WOULD THEN ESSENTIALLY REPLACE THAT WITH A CLASS OF HIGHER DEMAND.

SO WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CUT THAT EXPENSE BECAUSE THE CLASS IS UNDERPERFORMING.

WE WOULD LOOK AT REPLACING THAT WITH A DIFFERENT VALUE ADD THAT MEETS THE DEMAND.

IN OTHER CASES, WE MAY REDUCE THAT CLASS DOWN BECAUSE IT JUST IS.

OUR CURRENT SCHEDULE IS MEETING THE NEED.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FLUID AS WELL.

SO JUST TO THAT, OKAY, HOW DO WE DO LISTEN TO THE CONVERSATION.

I'M THINKING ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, HOW DO WE WE KNOW WHAT OUR COSTS ROUGHLY ARE FOR EVERY YEAR WE HAVE THAT.

SO HOW DO WE SET A REVENUE FOR THAT FISCAL I MEAN LIKE TO WOULD MAKE IT NO OKAY WE WE NEED

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DO WE HAVE A TARGET EVERY YEAR THAT YOU SHOOT FOR OR IS IT JUST WHATEVER COMES UP? THAT'S WHAT'S DETERMINED IN THE IN THE BUDGET PLANNING WHEN WE PROJECT OUR REVENUES AND THINGS AND PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE DISCUSSED AS FAR AS A MEASURABLE THAT AS FAR AS INDICATING PERFORMANCE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT OUR OUR CURRENT IDENTIFIED REVENUES ARE WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY WANT THE TARGET TO BE OR NOT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING FOR NEXT YEAR, THAT'S REALLY UP FOR DISCUSSION.

BUT YEAH, SO IF WE HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPENSE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO COVER A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF REVENUE.

SO LOOKING AT OUR ANNUAL RECREATION CENTER, ALL OF ITS OPERATIONAL COSTS, IF WE WANT TO SEE HOW MUCH OF THAT AS A PERCENTAGE BASE, WHERE ARE WE TRYING TO MAKE UP THROUGH REVENUE? WE CAN DETERMINE THAT AS A REVENUE TARGET.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER LIKE SOME OF THE LET'S SAY WE WANT IT TO BE 50% COST RECOVERY AT THE ENGELSON RECREATION CENTER.

WE'RE NOT THERE YET. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR.

SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT RELATIVE REVENUE RIGHT NOW AND ASSIGN A REASONABLE PERCENTAGE OF GROWTH TO THE NEXT YEAR AND MAYBE TEAR OUT IF WE WANT TO BE 50%.

HOW MANY YEARS DO WE SAY 3 TO 5% GROWTH CONTINUALLY FOR MULTIPLE YEARS UNTIL WE GET TO THAT 50% LEVEL.

SO IT CAN'T BE AT THIS POINT JUST A PURE EQUATION.

BUT WHAT I WOULD I WOULD SAY LONG TERM IS WE LOOK AT WHAT DO WE WANT THAT TO BE BASED OFF REVENUE AND OPERATIONAL EXPENSE.

AND THEN INCREMENTALLY, FROM WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, HOW MANY YEARS DOES IT TAKE US TO GET BACK WITH A REASONABLE TREND OF GROWTH? ANYTHING OVER 3% GROWTH OVER YEAR IS GOING TO BE A HIGH A HIGH DEMAND TO MAINTAIN THAT GROWTH YEAR OVER YEAR.

3% IS KIND OF LIKE THE INDUSTRY OF WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE.

THAT'S JUST BASED OFF OF USAGE AS OTHER WAYS OF INCREASING REVENUE AS WELL BETWEEN ADDITIONAL SERVICES, FEE CHANGES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO SCALE THAT OUT OVER MULTIPLE YEARS TO SEE HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TO GET TO THAT ANTICIPATED TARGET.

AND THOSE THOSE REVENUE GOALS SOMEWHAT ARE GOING TO BE ARE, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BE ON A CASE OF WE'RE TALKING COST RECOVERY AND THEN WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY AND THEN WHAT'S OUR GAP THERE? AND THEN BASED OFF A 3 TO 5% MAXIMUM PER YEAR INCREASE IN REVENUE, LIKE HOW CAN WE SCALE THAT OUT YEAR OVER YEAR? AND THAT WOULD BE 3 TO 5% WOULD BE FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE.

MOST PLACES ARE GOING TO GET 2 TO 3% AS A SUSTAINABLE REVENUE GROWTH.

IT'S UNLIKELY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN 5% YEAR OVER YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS OR SIX YEARS KIND OF THING. SO. SO 50% LOSSES IS EXPECTED.

YES. SO AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO CUT OUT THE THINGS THAT ARE LOSING MONEY IF YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY. LET'S TALK ABOUT PROGRAMS. YOU TALK ABOUT CONTRACT LABOR.

BUT AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT OPERATIONS YOU CUT BACK AND WHAT HOURS YOU CUT BACK. WHAT DO YOU DO? I MEAN, 50% LOSS KIND OF LIMITS US FROM DOING ANYTHING ELSE.

IN MY MIND. AND IT'S WE'LL DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE IN SPECIFIC AND SOME OF THE UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH WILL HELP A LITTLE BIT.

SO YEAH, WELL, WE'LL DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT AND SOME OF THE UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS ON SPECIFICALLY ON WHERE WE CAN DO OPERATIONAL COST CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I JUST SAY AS JUST AS A NOTE, WHEN WE LOOK AT COST RECOVERY, WE LOOK AT HOW MUCH FUNDING WE'RE RECEIVING VERSUS HOW MUCH REVENUE WE'RE MAKING.

WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE HAVING TO THEN DECIDE IS WHAT TYPE OF OPERATION ARE YOU WANTING TO SHOOT TOWARDS MORE OF A BALANCED OPERATION, OR YOU WANTED TO SHOOT TO A PROFIT OR PROFITING OPERATION? OR DO YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LOSSES PER YEAR BASED OFF COMMUNITY NEED, AND THAT'S REALLY GOING TO DRIVE WHERE YOUR REVENUE TARGETS END UP. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU WANT TO GET TO A PROFITABLE POINT FROM WHERE WE'RE AT, THEN THERE HAVE TO BE SUBSTANTIAL CUTS TO WHERE WE I DON'T THINK WE COULD OFFER SERVICE AT IT AT ALL AT THE LEVEL WE WOULD NEED TO TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO. GREAT.

THAT'S VERY HELPFUL, KYLE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THESE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS HERE ON THE BUILDING INSURANCE.

BUT WHAT HAPPENED? WE'RE. WE'RE OVER.

15,000. STILL ON PAGE 12.

SO YOU WERE AT THE 60 THE YEAR TO DATE, THE BUILDING INSURANCE OF 60,000 RATHER THAN THE 45. RIGHT.

I'M ACTUALLY UNSURE.

I HAVE TO GO INTO THAT DEAL AND SEE WHAT THE DETAILS ARE AT BUILDING INSURANCE.

SUPER. OKAY.

GREAT. AND THEN ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ONCE AGAIN, THIS MAY BE CAL OR MEGAN.

SO SO WHAT WHAT ARE OUR PROJECTS? WHAT ARE WE DOING AT THE AT THE REC CENTER? SHE? SO I WILL HAVE TO DO THE ONES THAT I IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE, WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS ONE. BUT THE ONES THAT I RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THE 88 ACCESSIBLE DOORS WERE INSTALLED. I THOUGHT THAT WAS LAST YEAR.

WE HAD AN INSTALLATION FOR THE FRONT DOORS.

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OKAY. SO GOING INTO THE POOL AREA AND THEN ALSO OUR SENIOR AREA, I SAY SENIOR AREA, A MULTIPURPOSE ROOM THAT IS FOR SENIOR PROGRAMING IN ADDITION TO A MULTITUDE OF OTHER THINGS. WE ALSO HAVE DAMPER REPLACEMENTS IN THE NATATORIUM THAT ARE BEING DONE. THE THE MULTIPURPOSE DIVIDER CURTAIN IS IN THERE.

IS THIS ALL THIS FISCAL YEAR? BECAUSE THIS ONE WAS DONE.

YEAH. WE ALSO HAD THE REPLACEMENT OF THE GYM SCOREBOARD AND THAT WAS IN PREPARATION FOR SOME OF THE LEAGUES THAT WE ANTICIPATE OFFERING THE YOUTH VOLLEYBALL THAT WE'RE HOSTING IN THERE. WE ALSO HAVE, I THINK SOME OF THESE WERE LAST FISCAL YEAR THAT WERE COMPLETED. STAMFORD REPLACEMENT SCOREBOARD.

NATATORIUM DOORS, THE ROOM DIVIDER.

SO THAT'S IN THE AEROBICS ROOM? YEAH. I THINK I SAW THAT WHEN KYLE WAS GIVING ME A LITTLE TOUR.

SO. SO? SO.

SCOREBOARD AND THE ROOM DIVIDER.

THOSE ARE PROBABLY ALREADY EXPENSED OUT.

HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETE.

THE ACTUALLY, THE DAMPERS.

I THINK WE'RE JUST WAITING ON INSTALLATION.

OKAY. TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE, THAT ONE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN.

YEAH. OKAY. AND IS THERE IS THE ROOM DIVIDER ALREADY? IS THAT ALREADY RUN THROUGH OR IS THAT IS THAT PART OF WHAT THAT IS AN ENCUMBERED ITEM.

WE HAVE SIGNED A POA FOR THAT THAT THAT IS OCCURRING.

OKAY. SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THE ACTUAL TODAY.

IT SHOULD BE ENCUMBERED.

WELL. WELL, MAYBE IT.

IT MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPENSIVE IN.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ENCUMBERED ON LIKE IT IS ENCUMBERED.

SO WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY RECORDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A PO, RIGHT? AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? IT SHOULD BE IN THERE. YEAH.

OKAY. SUPER. SO WE'VE STILL GOT ABOUT 42,000.

THE DAMPERS ARE GOING TO BE ONE OF THAT.

DO WE KNOW WHAT ELSE WE'RE DOING? SO THOSE SHOULD BE WE CAN GIVE YOU AN ITEMIZED BREAKDOWN.

OKAY. WELL, HERE'S THE REASON WHY I ASK.

OKAY. KYLE HAD POINTED OUT WHEN I WHEN HE SHOWED ME AROUND THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OF THINGS THAT.

THAT NEED TO BE DONE AT AT THE REC CENTER.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE LIKE A A LIST AND, AND THEN HOW THOSE THINGS ARE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES.

WE DO THINK THERE IS ONE UPCOMING.

YEAH. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A PART OF AN UPCOMING AGENDA ITEM.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SPECIFICS OF THOSE FINDINGS.

SO I'LL LOOK REAL QUICK AND SEE IF THE THE THE WALL HAS BEEN EXPENSED YET.

I KNOW I THINK THERE WAS SOME CARRYOVER STUFF FROM LAST YEAR THAT WAS PAID OUT OF THIS YEAR AS WELL. OKAY.

AND THEN I KNOW THE LOUVERS FOR THE NATATORIUM HAVE NOT BEEN PAID AND THE DOORS ARE IN PROCESS OR THE DOORS ARE DONE.

AND SO IN THE SCOREBOARDS DONE.

SO I'LL LOOK AND JUST SEE WHAT THOSE OTHER ONES ARE.

SOME OF THAT MAY BE ITEMS WHERE WE'VE HAD WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE SOME SOME DIFFERENT ITEMS. BUT I'LL GO BACK TO THE LIST REAL QUICK WHILE WE'RE IN BETWEEN THE ITEMS. BUT WE'LL ACTUALLY GET TO THAT SPECIFIC ITEM AT THE END OF THE.

YEAH. MARVELOUS.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO YOU? AND I THINK THAT WAS ALL AHEAD ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE FINANCIALS? NO. THAT WAS IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORRY.

I CAN GO CHECK AND SEE WHAT THAT 94 FIVE CONSISTS OF.

OKAY, GREAT.

ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY FURTHER SPECIAL.

CHARLOTTE COVERS US ALL.

DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION? THANK YOU. FROM THIS MUST.

YOU NOT? I REMEMBER THREE DISCUSSION ON PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT UPDATES.

[3. Discussion on Park and Recreation Department updates.]

SO YOU ALL WERE PRESENT WHEN WE MET WITH THE FIRMS REGARDING VETERANS RFQ.

THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN PUT ON HOLD.

BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THAT PATTY SWORDS, OUR GRANT ADMINISTRATOR, HAS FOUND A GRANT THAT SHE NOTIFIED ME ABOUT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE UTILIZED FOR THIS CONCEPT AND DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IF WE SO CHOOSE TO PURSUE THAT.

SO SHE'S CHECKING ON THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY THOSE TWO ITEMS. CONCEPT PLANNING, DESIGN DEVELOPMENT COULD POTENTIALLY BE COMPLETELY FUNDED BY A GRANT.

SO WE'LL BRING YOU GUYS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF WE QUALIFY.

SOUTH SIDE PARK LAND ACQUISITION.

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WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THE LANDOWNER DOWNING TENNIS COURTS.

WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON THIS.

LEGAL DOES HAVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT THEY ARE REVIEWING.

WE ARE WORKING WITH AISD AND THE GC TO GROUP THE LOCAL TENNIS ORGANIZATION TO APPLY FOR A USTA GRANT.

SO WE'RE STEADILY MAKING PROGRESS THERE.

WE HOPE THAT WE WILL GET SOME FUNDING AND I THINK IT'S ABOUT $15,000 WE MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE RESURFACING AND FENCING, SO IT WOULD JUST HELP TO OFFSET THE COST THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED. AND THEN WE LOOK TOWARDS WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE ELIGIBLE NEXT YEAR FOR LIGHTING IF IF THE GRANT IS AVAILABLE.

AGAIN, THE MISSION AND VISION FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

WE JUST RECENTLY IN APRIL, EARLY APRIL SENT OUT A SURVEY WE'VE HAD WE LOOK THIS MORNING IT CLOSES INTO DAY TODAY.

IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN IT, PLEASE DO.

REALLY. IT'S THE SAME SURVEY QUESTIONNAIRE THAT WENT OUT WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC'S INPUT ON NEEDS HAS NOT CHANGED.

IT'S HIGHLIGHTS THE DEFICIENCIES FROM THE PUBLIC'S VIEW.

WE HAVE ABOUT 178 RESPONDENTS AT THIS POINT, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, SEEING SOME OF THE RESPONSES.

AND OVERALL PARK MAINTENANCE, OF COURSE, IS ONE OF THE ITEMS TRAILS, WHICH IS NO SURPRISE THAT WAS MENTIONED LAST TIME AS WELL.

PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR SPLASH PADS, BUT IT REALLY HELPS GIVE US DIRECTION AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS REORG AND HIRING PROCESS OF WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING OUR EFFORTS FOR PROGRAMING AND REVENUE GENERATION.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THE FEEDBACK THERE.

ADA SELF EVALUATION TRANSITION PLAN.

WE ARE WORKING WITH KIMBERLY HORNE ON ADA AND THEY ARE WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND.

YOU MAY SEE THEM THROUGHOUT TOWN TAKING MEASUREMENTS AND PICTURES FOR THE ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS OR WHAT.

WE ARE DEFICIENCIES REALLY THROUGHOUT TOWN.

SO THEY'RE ASSESSING THE INGLETON RECREATION CENTER, OUR PARKS, AND THEN A MILE OF OUR PUBLIC RIDE AWAY.

THIS IS A PHASE PROJECT.

SO THIS STUDY WILL BE DELIVERED TO US IN SEPTEMBER.

THAT WILL GIVE US SOME AN ACTIONABLE ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND THERE WHICH ONES ARE THE MOST CRUCIAL.

AND SO WE WILL LOOK TOWARDS OR THE CITY WILL LIKELY WON'T BE WITHIN THIS DEPARTMENT.

LIKE WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, IT WILL BE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE TAKING ON SUBSEQUENT PHASES OF THIS.

CAN I ASK? SO DOWNTOWN IS.

IS. AN OLD SECTION OF TOWN.

SO AND BUILT IN THE DAYS WHERE THERE WAS BIG STEPS DOWN TO THE STREET.

ARE THEY LOOKING AT HOW HOW THAT HOW HOW WE WORK THROUGH THAT AS A CITY.

AND I REALIZE IT'S REALLY NOT A BLC BUT BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME BIG CURVES AND THEN HOW DO YOU DROP THAT DOWN SO THAT.

THAT THE DRAINAGE THAT NATURALLY OCCURS AT THE LOWER STREET.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I WOULD SAY JOHN MAY ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN ME, BUT I KNOW THAT STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE DOWNTOWN WALKABILITY AND THAT AREA AND HAS APPLIED FOR GRANTS THROUGH.

I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK, BUT I WANT TO SAY IT'S THROUGH TEXT.

BUT I COULD BE WRONG OR GASSY.

I CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY, BUT.

YEAH. YEAH.

AND PART OF THE REASON WHY I THOUGHT OF THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY REDID THE PARKING LOT ACROSS FROM THE METHODIST CHURCH.

IT'S LOVELY. AND WE'VE GOT A NICE PARKING LOT.

EVERYBODY CAN GET IN IT WITH THEIR CAR.

BUT I, I VOLUNTEER ONE DAY A WEEK OVER AT THE METHODIST CHURCH.

AND BECAUSE THAT'S SUCH AN OLD STREET, WHEN THEY CAME DOWN AND THEY HAD TO TAKE A TREE DOWN AND AND THE PROBLEM IS LITERALLY, IF IF SOMEBODY'S IN A WALKER, THEY HAVE TO GO DOWN.

THE CROWD ROAD.

YEAH. AND IT'S GREAT FOR RUNNING WATER OFF, BUT IT SURE IS HARD TO GET THEN INTO THE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE WALKWAY IN.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, I WONDER WHAT THE ENGINEERING RESOLUTION TO THAT IS, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC. BUT THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD DEAL WITH THAT UNDER THE ADA.

RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT.

YES. AND TRULY, I WILL SAY, I THINK TEXAS IS THEY'RE UNDERGOING A SIMILAR PROJECT OR THEY ALREADY HAVE. MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW. FEEL LIKE Y'ALL HAD THEM DOWN AS A REFERENCE.

BUT IN SPECIFIC AREAS, IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

TECH STOPS RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING AN ADA TRANSITION PLAN AS WELL, AND THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE AREAS THAT THEY ARE TO ADDRESS.

SO AGAIN, I CAN'T BE CERTAIN, BUT.

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WELL, AND I WAS I WAS I SAW IT WHEN I WAS HELPING SOMEBODY AND WHEN I WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, YOU KNOW, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.

IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE MOBILE AND YOU'RE MOVING AROUND.

BUT WHEN SOMEBODY'S ON A WALKER AND THEY'RE NOT, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SEE ALL THE CONSTRAINTS. YEAH, CONSTRAINTS.

DEFINITELY NOT THE.

SURE. AND THE LAYOUT OF THESE.

YEAH. IT'D BE A LOT.

YEAH. WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING WHEN WE CAN EXPECT THE SURVEY? SO THE SURVEY WAS LAUNCHED AND IT WILL CLOSE INTO DAY TO DAY.

AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TAKING THOSE RESULTS BACK.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY BRING TO THE BOARD, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN SEND YOU ALL OUT THE RESULTS TOMORROW MORNING.

WE CAN JUST SEND YOU SO YOU HAVE A FREE REFERENCE.

THIS IS THE ADA STUDY.

OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT WE HAD OUT.

SO THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN FOR THIS FIRST PHASE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS COME OUT.

THE RESULTS OF THIS IN SEPTEMBER, EARLY OCTOBER.

THANK YOU. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO THE RECREATION DIVISION, WE ARE STILL AGAIN WORKING ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE CAPITAL LINE ITEM.

SO SOME OF THOSE ARE MENTIONED HERE.

SCOREBOARD WAS UPDATED IN JANUARY, AUTOMATIC DOORS WERE INSTALLED.

SO THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETE SINCE, I BELIEVE FEBRUARY.

DAMPER REPLACEMENTS FOR THE NATATORIUM ARE ON ORDER.

THAT OPERABLE WALL HAS BEEN ON ORDER AS WELL.

NEW PIECES IN THE WEIGHT ROOM ARE TO BE INSTALLED.

THE ANTICIPATED INSTALLATION DAYS LAST WEEK IN APRIL.

SO WE'RE EXPECTING THOSE ITEMS TO COME IN THE REC CENTER PLAZA MAKING GREAT PROGRESS THERE. WE ARE IN MOWING SEASON NOW SO WE HAVE NOT YET PUT UP THE POLES FOR LIGHTS.

BUT I BELIEVE STUART IN HIS CAREER ARE WORKING ON DOING THAT THIS WEEK POTENTIALLY.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THAT PING PONG TABLE AND THOSE CORNHOLE THINGS ARE GREAT.

THEY ARE AND WE ARE GETTING USE OUT OF THEM.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT BEING UTILIZED.

WE HAVE THE NEW TABLES OUT THERE AS WELL AND WE HAVE SEEN SO MUCH MORE TRAFFIC IN THE PLAZA AREA THAN WE HAVE EVER SO FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD FROM REC CENTER STAFF.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE MORE HIGHLY UTILIZED DURING THE SUMMER.

PEOPLE TYPICALLY GO INTO THE FACILITY, TAKE LUNCH BREAKS, SO AND THEN GO BACK IN.

YEAH, WELL, I LOVE IT THAT SOMEBODY WAS SO CREATIVE TO THINK OF SOMETHING.

YOU CAN JUST SIT OUTSIDE AND IT WILL WEAR FOR YEARS, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. YES.

WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT FINISHING THE CONCRETE WALL.

WE DO HAVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT TO FINISH OUT THE BORDER THAT IS STILL THERE AND ENSURE THAT THE VEGETATION IS IS GOING TO.

SURVIVE. I GUESS THE CURRENT CONDITIONS WILL BE DROUGHT CONDITIONS, BUT IT'S A REALLY HOT AREA. AND SO SOME OF THOSE MAY JUST GO BACK TO BULL ROCK OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S EASIER.

SUSTAINED EVENTS AND PROGRAMS. STAFF IS PREPARING, OF COURSE, FOR SUMMER.

THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR PEAK SEASON WE'RE WORKING ON.

OUR YOUTH TRACK PROGRAM IS ALREADY ADVERTISED.

THAT WILL BE HAPPENING AT OLD WILDCAT STADIUM AND SENIOR PROGRAMING IS CURRENTLY ONGOING. THEY DO HAVE A TRIP PLANNED I DON'T WE THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY MENTIONED WHERE I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO PAINTED CHURCHES.

RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PAINT IN CHURCHES AGAIN.

SHE JUST SENT AN EMAIL OUT.

YES. I APOLOGIZE, BUT.

SENIOR PROGRAMING IS GOING WELL.

WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE SENIOR PROGRAMING, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND HAS BEEN A MAJOR ISSUE FOR US IS THE BUS DRIVER.

SO WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

YOU'LL SEE IN THE BUDGET WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR SENIOR COORDINATOR KDL AIKIDO SO THAT AND WE HAD OUR PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE HAD A CTO.

AND SO THAT HAS REALLY BEEN A CONSTRAINT FOR US AND THAT'S WHY IT JUST RECENTLY CAME UP WHILE WE CONTRACT FOR BUS DRIVERS.

I MEAN, WE ARE JUST CONSTANT.

WE LEAVE THE POSITION POSTED BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ONBOARDED AND THEN THEY, YOU KNOW, FIND A BETTER JOB.

AND IT'S JUST BEEN A CONSTANT ROTATION THIS YEAR.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE A STAFFER PURSUE THAT SO THAT THAT'S NO LONGER AN ISSUE.

RECREATION, REVENUE AND OPERATIONS LIKE KYLE ALLUDED TO.

WE DO HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE A DIRECT RESULT OF OUR FINDINGS THAT WE MENTIONED IN FEBRUARY THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION ON THIS EVENING OR WE HOPE TO. AND THAT REVOLVES AROUND MEMBERSHIPS, HOURS OF OPERATION AND FACILITY MAINTENANCE,

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YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE BUDGET THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROJECTS, VIP PROJECTS IDENTIFIED BECAUSE WE WANT YOUR ASSISTANCE IN PRIORITIZING THAT BEFORE ANYTHING IS DEVELOPED IN HERE FOR THE BUDGET.

I NINE SPORTS SPOKE TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS LEGAL HAS THE CONTRACT FOR NINE SPORTS AND WE ARE HOPING TO ROLL OUT SUMMER CLINICS AND A LEAGUE FOR BOTH FLAG FOOTBALL AND YOUTH VOLLEYBALL.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP.

AND BATES PARK FILLED.

FIVE LIGHTS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED AND ELECTRICAL IS COMPLETE.

SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE WORKING ON CLEANING UP THE AREA, THE SITE PARK STANDARDS.

YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO KIMBERLY HORNE HERE.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

IT'S AT 90% LEVEL COMPLETION AND SO WE'RE SENDING FINAL TWEAKS TO THEM THIS WEEK AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO PUBLISHING THAT HERE SOON, WHICH WILL BE A GREAT TOOL FOR OUR DEVELOPERS AND EVEN OUR STAFF.

DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I HAVE ONE, BUT IT'S NOT ON HERE.

THE TRAIL WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUT AT FREEDOM PARK AND THE BRIDGE ACROSS RACIAL DITCH.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT MEGAN, I TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS A BIG DEAL FOR US AND 2019 AND IT KIND OF STOPPED IN 2020 AND THEN WE GOT THE MASTER PLAN BY BIRD IT. BUT WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT SURVEYS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AT THE TOP OF THE SURVEYS FOR LONG BEFORE MEGAN GOT HERE.

AND THAT'S ONE THING WE CAN STILL LOOK AT, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T NEED A BOND FOR THAT, BECAUSE GETTING A BOND AND WE'RE PROBABLY SEVERAL YEARS AWAY, BUT TRY TO PUT THAT IN PLACE SOMEHOW.

AND I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED TO CLAUDIA ABOUT IT.

YEAH. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT I KNOW THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT UP WITH RESPECT TO PUSHING FORWARD, AND SO WE HAVE ASKED FOR IT FOR SOME OF THOSE PROPOSALS.

WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WE WOULD SUGGEST AND RECOMMEND THAT THAT BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET FOR WE PUT ALL OF THE REMAINING FUNDS IN CONTINGENCY SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO DIVVY THAT OUT AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THAT AND OTHER PROJECTS IN MORE DETAIL WHEN WE GET TO THE BUDGET ITEM, IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU GUYS.

YES, MA'AM. SO IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THERE, THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THAT

[4. Discussion and possible action on the Parks & Recreation Standards Manual.]

OH, NO. YES.

SO IF WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO NO QUESTIONS TRYING TO SEGUE INTO THE NEXT ITEM.

OKAY, GREAT. SO WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM KIMBERLEY HORN HERE.

THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY.

THIS WAS A FAST TURNAROUND PROJECT.

THEY STARTED IN JANUARY.

WE GAVE THEM AN EXPECTATION OF FINISHING IN APRIL AND SO THEY'VE REALLY DONE A FANTASTIC JOB. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PRODUCT.

YOU HAVE IT THERE IN YOUR PACKET.

THE LAST MEETING WAS JOINT WITH PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD SO THEY COULD SEE AND PROVIDE INPUT AS WELL.

AND SO THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE LAST MINUTE CHANGES, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DO A SHORT PRESENTATION OVER THE 90% COMPLETION.

THANK YOU, MEGAN. I BROUGHT HARD COPIES AGAIN, LIKE, LAST TIME, SO I'LL PASS THOSE OUT. THANK YOU.

HERE. ONE HERE. YEAH, WELL, WE'LL SHARE.

THANK YOU. YES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN.

MY NAME IS JEFFREY HOLZER, AND I'M HERE WITH TREVOR TAWANA.

WE'RE FROM KIMBERLY HAUGHTON ASSOCIATES, WORKING ON THE PARK STANDARDS FOR CITY OF ANGLETON. WE WERE HERE IN MARCH ON MARCH 21ST, ABOUT 30 DAYS AGO, PRESENTING THE 60% DOCUMENT. WE'RE HERE TODAY PRESENTING THE DOCUMENT TO A 90% LEVEL.

THIS PRESENTATION IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAD SEEN IN MARCH.

BUT I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE A QUICK REFRESHER.

HOW WE GOT HERE IN THE PAST 30 DAYS.

I'LL SKIP PAST THIS.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE VALUE OF THIS DOCUMENT, WHAT IT MEANS WHEN IT COMES TO STANDARDS OF DEVELOPING FOR DEVELOPERS, FOR THE CITY, THE EASE OF MAINTENANCE, THE MEANS OF QUALITY MATERIALS, THE BRANDING OF THE CITY.

THAT'S REALLY THE LEGACY AND THE INTENT OF THE DOCUMENT LIKE THIS TO MAINTAIN THE

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WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A HARD COPY.

AND WHAT WAS EXPLAINED WAS THE DOCUMENT IS INTENDED TO BE UTILIZED IN BOTH THE HARD AND A DIGITAL COPY FORM.

WHEN YOU'RE WORKING IN A IN A PRINT VERSION, THE PAGES HAVE BEEN ORGANIZED THAT THERE IS A PRIMARY PAGE THAT WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE PURPOSE MATERIALS AND FINISHES LIFECYCLE APPROPRIATE INSTALLATION PRACTICES.

AND THEN ON THE THE BACK SIDE OF THAT PAGE WILL HAVE ANY SUPPLEMENTAL IMAGERY DETAILING.

SO IF A CONTRACTOR OR DEVELOPER NEEDS TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION OF ANY PARTICULAR STANDARD, THEY CAN PRINT ONE SHEET FRONT TO BACK AND HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ON ONE PIECE OF PAPER. SO THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED THAT WAY.

THE DIGITAL VERSION IS USING A LINKED SYSTEM IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WHERE ON THE TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE WHICH IS PAGE FIVE YOU EACH TABLE CONTENT STANDARD IS LINKED TO ITS STANDARD PAGE.

SO IN THIS EXAMPLE, THE CHAIN LINK FENCING, YOU JUST CLICK ON CHAIN LINK FENCING.

IT WOULD JUMP RIGHT TO THE PRIMARY PAGE WITH THE PRIMARY INFORMATION AND THEN EACH STANDARD HAS A HOME BUTTON IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER.

WHEN YOU CLICK THAT, IT WILL SEND YOU BACK TO THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.

SO THAT WAY ANYONE LOOKING ON IT ONLINE CAN EASILY FIND THAT INFORMATION AND CAN NAVIGATE THE DOCUMENT QUICKLY.

IN MARCH OF 20 OR ON MARCH 21ST, WE WERE AT A 60% LEVEL.

NOW WE'RE AT A 90% LEVEL.

BUT WE MADE IT A PRIORITY THAT ALL OF THE STANDARDS ARE INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU. ALL THE INTENDED CONTENT IS WITHIN THERE.

SO THERE'S NOT THERE'S NO OUTSTANDING STANDARD AT THIS POINT.

SO YOU'RE YOU'RE SEEING ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE FOR EACH OF THESE STANDARDS.

AND BUT WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE WE'RE AT A 90% LEVEL.

SO KIND OF THE THE EXPECTATION AT THIS POINT IS THAT ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THE BOARD YOU ALL MAY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT LAST 10% THAT WE CAN CORROBORATE IT AND GET IT EXACTLY WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE TO MEET THE CITY'S NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS.

BUT ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AS KIMMY HORN, AS THE PROFESSIONALS OF DEALING WITH SOME OF THESE NUANCED CONSTRUCTION ITEMS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL REVIEW OF THE MATERIAL, MAKE SURE IT'S HITTING EACH APPROPRIATE KIND OF EXPECTATION, WHETHER IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS, INSTALLATION PRACTICES, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, MAKING SURE THAT INFORMATION IS ALL CORRECT AND IS SUITABLE FOR THE PRACTICES THAT SHOULD BE PERFORMED IN THE CITY.

SO THOSE ARE WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW OF WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO PERFORM FROM 90 TO 100%. SO A LOT OF THE CONTENT MAY NOT CHANGE.

THERE MAY BE SOME REWARDING OF THINGS.

OR ADDITIONALLY, TOO, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF A CONTRACTING A PHOTOGRAPHER TO GET SOME PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS FINISHED OR TAKEN, AND SOME OF THOSE IMAGERY WILL BE INCORPORATED AT THE 100% LEVEL.

SO, YOU KNOW, SOME WORDING MAY BE CHANGED SLIGHTLY.

SOME PHOTOS ARE GOING TO BE SWAPPED OUT.

BUT THE 90% OF THE CONTENT, THE STANDARDS, THOSE ARE THOSE WILL REMAIN.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

SO THIS PRESENTATION WAS BRIEF.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN EFFECTIVE CONVERSATION A MONTH AGO.

SO I'LL I'LL FROM THERE, I'LL OPEN UP TO IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

I HAVE. NO, GO AHEAD.

YOU'RE FINE. I GOT SEVERAL.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN YOU SUMMARIZE HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE STANDARDS? I MEAN, I'M SURE STATE AND SO CONVERSATIONS WE WORKED YOU KNOW THE AS MEGAN MENTIONED THE PROJECT STARTED IN LATE DECEMBER BEGINNING OF JANUARY WE HAD THE KIMBERLY HORN AND CITY STAFF HAS WORKED THROUGH OTHER EXAMPLES OF STANDARDS LIKE THESE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE AND WHAT ARE THE APPLICABLE ONES ADVISED BY THE CITY STAFF OF THAT THAT NEED TO BE INCORPORATED WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE A POOL OF SORTS OF IDEAS OF THESE STANDARDS AND FILTER IT DOWN TO WHAT WAS NEEDED AND WHAT CITY STAFF WANTED TO INCLUDE.

AND THEN FROM THERE, WE TOOK THE INFORMATION FROM SOME OF THOSE GO BYS, BUT ALSO INFORMATION OF WHAT ARE THE STANDARD PRACTICES OR STATE LAWS OF TEXAS THAT NEED TO BE INCORPORATED? WHAT ARE INDUSTRY TRENDS OR NORMS THAT NEED TO BE INCORPORATED, WHETHER IT IS INSULATION OR MATERIALS? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS, REGIONAL ASPECTS THAT ARE LOCAL TO HERE, HOW DO THOSE CONSIDERATIONS NEED TO BE APPLIED ON WHATEVER

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OKAY. THANK YOU.

MM HMM. JUST A COUPLE HERE.

UNDER YOUR FURNISHINGS, YOU LIST A STANDARD MODEL, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

AND THEN. YOU KNOW YOU GIVE THE OPTION AT THE BOTTOM OUR CITY APPROVED EQUAL AND I THINK THERE'S SOMEWHERE WE READ IT RIGHT IN HERE THE LAST TIME ABOUT THE PARKS DIRECTOR HAVING A SAY. BUT THE NET THOUGH, NO OFFENSE, JOHN, BUT THE CITY APPROVED EQUAL.

I WOULD PREFER CITY COUNCIL NOT BE THAT IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT IT COULD BE IT NEEDS BE SOMEBODY THE PARK EXPERIENCE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IF THIS IS JUST STANDARD OR IF THERE'S SOME OTHER WAY YOU KNOW ABOUT PARKS BUT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T.

PARKS DIRECTOR AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PARKS OR PARKS BOARD, ABC DOES.

BUT I JUST WORRY IF A DEVELOPMENT WE USE THIS FOR A DEVELOPER COME IN.

NO, WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.

I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY A POLITICIAN CHANGING SAY, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE COULD REWORD THAT RATHER THAN SAY.

CITY APPROVED EQUAL.

THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

JUST SO IN THE PREVIOUS DOCUMENT, AT 60% LEVEL, WE HAD WORDING SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF AS APPROVED BY THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, I SAW THAT IT WAS REPHRASED TO PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF TO ALLOW FOR GREATER FLEXIBILITY OF WHO CAN ADVISE ON AN ALTERATION.

RIGHT. WELL, I SAW THAT I WAS JUST GOING THROUGH IT THIS TIME AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THESE PAGES. AND IF THESE PAGES ARE GIVING OUT TO A DEVELOPER INSIDE OF A PARK, HE HAS TO DO TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.

BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THERE THAT I MISSED.

CERTAIN STANDARDS HAVE IT EMBEDDED WITHIN THE STANDARD ITSELF.

BUT IN THE OPENING INTRODUCTION OF THE DOCUMENT, IT'S ALSO STATED THERE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF YOUR UMBRELLA STATEMENT THERE FOR THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED AT. AND COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS ON YOUR PAGE.

DEALING WITH LANDSCAPING AND.

LIKE PLANTING TREES AND A FEW OTHER THINGS.

IT'S BACK TOWARD THE END OF IT.

I DON'T RECALL.

THAT'S SECTION 11.

I THINK IN MY LITTLE PACKET ON HERE, HIS WAY TOWARD THE END THEY GO IT'S IN WHICH SECTION AGAIN. 11, 11, 11.

RIGHT HERE AT THE TOP.

OH, THERE IT IS. OKAY, SO WE DON'T HAVE A PAGE NUMBER.

WE JUST HAVE. PAGE 11 IS PAGE 152.

OKAY. THIS IS IT'S PRETTY MINIMAL AND IT'S PROBABLY THAT WAY ON PURPOSE ON THE PLANNING DESIGN. AND I KNOW IT SAYS THE LICENSE ARCHITECT IN THE STATE OR SOMETHING, BUT I NEED TO HAVE A DIAGRAM AT THE BACK.

AND WE'VE ALREADY RAN INTO ISSUES WITH EVEN THE HERITAGE TREE PROGRAM.

WE'VE GOT ONE NOW AND A SUBDIVISION WHERE THEY COVERED UP THE TREE ROOTS AND SOME OTHER THINGS. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IF WE HAVE SOME REFERENCE IN HERE THAT.

AND I'M SURE IT GOES BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID, WHETHER IT'S A PARK STRIKER OR WHETHER SOMEBODY ELSE. BECAUSE IF IF A DEVELOPER IS USING THIS AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE STIPULATING SOME THINGS LIKE TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD VERBIAGE, BUT ONE PAGE FOR THAT WHEN WE'VE LIKE SAID WE'VE ENCOUNTERED A FEW ISSUES ALREADY, BUT IT MAY BE ALL ANYBODY DOES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY OF DEALING WITH IT.

THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE USED AS A MANUAL.

THIS WILL NOT TAKE THE PLACE OF ANY CITY ORDINANCES.

SO IT WOULD THOSE CITY ORDINANCES WOULD BE WHAT DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW.

SO THIS IS JUST A GUIDE AND IT'S NOT.

RIGHT. RIGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION.

UNDEVELOPED PARKS OR PASSIVE PARKS.

SO WE'VE GOT INGLETON REC CENTER WITH REUBEN WELCH PARK, THE MUNICIPAL POOL WHICH.

IT'S BEEN COVERED OVER WESTERN AVENUE AND THEN THE BRYAN STREET PART DETENTION AREA.

I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WE WHY WE GROUP ALL THOSE TOGETHER.

YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT? SO THESE ARE ALL AREAS.

I THINK MAYBE THE CONFLICT WOULD BE THAT YOU THINK INGLETON RECREATION CENTER, THAT'S AN

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HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T HAVE A DESIGNATED PARK LISTED TO IT.

SO WHILE THAT'S A FACILITY, IT'S LUMPED IN THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DEVELOPED THE LAND OUTSIDE FOR PARK USE.

WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO DO THAT AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

WELL, NOW WITH THE PLAZA WE COULD CONSIDER THAT OR DESIGNATE THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGNATED PARK AREA OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY REMOVE THAT. AND I JUST I JUST WAS YOU'RE.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE MAKE SURE WITHIN THIS WE'VE LISTED EVERYTHING THAT IS PROPERTY THAT PARKS IS DOING SOMETHING WITH CORRECT OR OWNS.

SO THE BRIAN DETENTION IN WESTERN AVENUE, WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER DEVELOP THOSE AREAS.

THOSE WILL REMAIN PASSIVE PARK AREAS.

BUT IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE COULDN'T RECREATE THERE WITH A FRISBEE OR A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A PICNIC LUNCH OR WHATEVER.

SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING ACCOUNTED FOR WITHIN THIS.

CORRECT. AND IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT.

SO WHEN WE OR PRIVATE ENTITY DEVELOPS WELCH PARK, HOWEVER THAT COMES TO PASS, IT WILL BE MOVED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO SO THE GO THAT'S SPECIFIED FOR THE BASKETBALL IN HERE IS THAT WHERE WE PUT IN THE NEW GOES AT THE BATES PARK PAVILION? YES. SO A LOT OF WHAT YOU SEE IN HERE ARE THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY DESIGNED FOR LAKESIDE PARK, WHAT WE'VE INSTALLED AT SOME OF OUR OTHER PARKS, LIKE THE FIELD LIGHTING, THOSE ARE SPECS FROM TECH LINE THAT WE JUST INSTALLED AT BATES FIELD FIVE.

SO YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF THE STANDARDS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, ANTIQUE STREET LIGHTING WE HAVE THERE WILL BE A WI FI POLE THAT IS BEING INSTALLED AT VETERANS PARK FOR DOWNTOWN WI FI THAT IS GOING INTO THIS DOCUMENT.

SO YES, WE'RE PULLING THEM FROM BY.

JUST MAKE SURE WE HAD THE SAME AND THE EXCUSE ME, THE TENNIS COURT, THERE'S DESCRIPTIONS HOW TO DO THE TENNIS COURT.

WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THOSE SAYING CORRECT.

CORRECT. SO WHEN WE PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHAT'S PICTURED THERE IS WHAT WE'RE AIMING TO DO FOR THOSE TENNIS COURTS.

SO THEN THE THE LINEAR PARK IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FOR FRONT.

I MEAN, IF SO, IF SOMEBODY'S DEVELOPING THE FRONT STREET PARK, THAT'S THE LINEAR THAT REALLY THERE ARE SOME PARKS IN HERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

AND SO, LIKE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A SPECIAL USE PARK.

WE DON'T HAVE A LINEAR PARK.

BUT IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED OVER TIME.

SO WE JUST WANT TO MENTION THOSE THINGS SO THAT IF WE HAVE A TRAILS MASTER PLAN AND WE START CONNECTING TRAILS ALONG, YOU KNOW, THE INGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT, RIGHT? OF DRAINAGE DITCHES OR WHATEVER THAT COULD THEN BECOME INGLETON LINEAR PARK, FRONT STREET COULD AS WELL IF THAT IS EVENTUALLY DEVELOPED.

SO YOU MENTIONED THIS DOCUMENT IS LIVING AND YOU CAN UPDATE IT.

IS THAT SOMETHING STAFF IS ABLE TO DO OR ARE WE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTING GROUP EVERY TIME WE UPDATE? NO. THE DOCUMENTS WILL BE ABLE TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE EDUCATION TO WHO MAY BE MANAGING IT CURRENTLY TO KEEP IT MAINTAINED WITHIN THE CITY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH KIMBERLY WARREN OR SOME OTHER CONSULTANT TO UPDATE IT.

THANK YOU. SO CLEARING AND SITE PREP STILL LIKE WHEN EXCAVATION AND FREE TO PARK HAPPENS HAPPENS FOR THE DETENTION.

WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT AT A MINIMUM.

THIS, CORRECT. I WAS JUST READING SOME OF THE THINGS.

THE CAVEAT BEING WHATEVER IS OUTLINED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER WHAT IS IN CITY ORDINANCES.

SO IF THAT IS WHAT IS AGREED UPON, YES.

WELL, THIS IS MINIMUM CALL 811 IF YOU'RE DIGGING OUT SOME OTHER THINGS AND FENCING FOR PROTECTION. BUT YES, YEAH.

SO THE THIS IS JUST A GUIDE.

SO IF THERE'S NOT A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, WE MAY WANT THEM TO DO THIS LIKE THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES AND DO THE OTHER THINGS.

BUT IF A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT WAS PRETTY BASIC AND IT WASN'T IN THERE, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THAT. BUT HOPEFULLY WE WON'T BE DOING THAT ANYMORE.

AND TRULY, THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT HELP TO US.

MANY OF YOU THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPERS TRYING TO CONVEY PARKLAND TO THE CITY, IT WAS REALLY, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, SUBSTANDARD.

AND SO WE HAD NOTHING TO SAY IT SUBSTANDARD BECAUSE AND SO THIS ALLOWS US TO SAY IT'S SUBSTANDARD BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE I MEAN, WE CAN REFERENCE THE NATIONAL AND STATE STANDARDS AND WE WE DID.

BUT IT JUST HELPS GIVE US THAT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AND ALSO HELPS US WORK TOWARDS CONTINUITY THROUGH OUR OWN PARK SYSTEM.

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I MEAN, WE HAD SOME THAT WERE GOING TO PUT A MULCH TRAIL FOR THE WALKING TRAIL JUST TO SAVE MONEY. THERE'S YEAH.

AND THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHERS WHO WANTED TO DO SOME BARE MINIMUM THINGS.

BUT WITH THIS IN PLACE, THEY, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO COPY THIS AND SEE HERE'S WHAT WE ACQUIRED. AND THEY CAN'T JUST PUT IN WHAT THEY WANT.

RIGHT. I WOULD JUST SAY, I WOULD THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROACTIVE CULLING AS WELL.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

DON'T SOUND LIKE WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO PROVIDE.

SO YOU'RE ALMOST TO THE END? WE'RE ALMOST TO THE END. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE STILL CAN'T BE.

ITEMS INCLUDED IN WORDING OR EXPECTATIONS.

THIS IS STILL THE TIME TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT.

WHAT'S THE LIFESPAN OF A SEEN? DAMON FIVE YEARS.

TEN YEARS, I THINK.

I THINK FIVE YEARS IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME FRAME BECAUSE IN THE STANDARD DOCUMENT, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT INCLUDE LIGHTING, INCLUDE METAL WORK, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIGHTING WHERE TECHNOLOGY, LIGHTING TECHNOLOGY HAS EVOLVED DRAMATICALLY JUST IN THE PAST TEN YEARS.

YOU'LL WANT TO KEEP PACE WITH THAT, WITH KIND OF THAT ADVANCEMENT.

BUT THAT FIVE YEAR TIME FRAME WILL ALSO IS ENOUGH TIME TO GET SOME OF THESE STANDARDS IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED AND MAYBE POTENTIALLY A REALIZATION THAT MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE WANT TO DO IT.

SO WE HAVE A CHECKPOINT WHERE LET'S RETHINK THAT OPTION AND DO IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND GET IT IN THE STANDARD. SO NOW WE KNOW WE ACTUALLY SHOULD BE DOING IT THIS WAY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO A WHOLE DECADE OR LONGER DOING IT A WAY THAT DOESN'T WORK WITHIN THE MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY.

DO YOU HAVE EASY ACCESS TO UPDATING STATE STANDARDS? EASY ACCESS OF UPDATING STATE STANDARDS IN THE MANUAL.

I MEAN, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SOME LEGAL STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED AND THOSE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT IS.

YEAH, CERTAINLY. YOU KNOW, IS IT IS IT WILL IT BE EASY FOR STAFF TO KEEP THE DOCUMENT RELATIVELY CURRENT AS FAR AS SOME OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. A LOT OF THIS DOCUMENT IS TEXT BASED AND IT'S JUST PROVIDING AN EDUCATION OF HOW TO UPDATE THE TEXT BOXES AND THE WORDING AND HOW IT NEEDS TO BE AND ULTIMATELY KIND OF JUST HITTING PRINT OF GETTING A NEW VERSION.

SO IF THERE IS A NEED TO KIND OF UPDATE IT MORE FREQUENTLY THAN KIND OF MAJOR CHECK POINTS OUT A FIVE YEAR STINT FOR YEARLY RENEWALS OF LANGUAGE, LEGAL LANGUAGE.

IT'S EASILY ADAPTABLE TO DO SO.

YOU KNOW, WE UPDATED THIS DOCUMENT IN ESSENTIALLY 30 DAYS AND TOOK IT FROM 60 TO 90%. AND THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS AN EASY DOCUMENT TO WORK WITHIN.

RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK.

THANKS. HI.

MY LAST QUESTION AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE ARE CHANGING STANDARDS.

WE PUT TECHNOLOGY.

THAT'S RIGHT. LIKE THEY MUST HAVE WI FI OR Y SMART LIGHTING SYSTEMS. ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY.

WHY WI FI IS AN ITEM INCLUDED.

THE LIGHTING TECHNOLOGY IS ADDED WHERE IT'S A LOT OF LIGHTING.

TECHNOLOGY INCLUDES APPLICATIONS THAT YOU CAN USE ON A CELL PHONE.

HAVING THAT WIRELESS KIND OF OPERATIONS THAT THAT GOES COINCIDING WITH AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM, WHICH KIND OF WORKS ON A WIRELESS ASPECT AS WELL.

WHAT'S THAT? CELL PHONES.

SO IN THAT SPECIFIC REFERENCE, I DON'T THINK THAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED.

BUT IF THERE ARE OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS WE WANT TO INCLUDE, WE CAN.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STANDARDS AND STATE STANDARDS.

I THINK EVERY CITY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR PARKS STANDARDS.

SO KIND OF HARD TO SAY WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE COOKING TOGETHER.

BUT ONE PART IN THE PARK SHOULD BE A STANDARD FOR ALL.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK. HOW LONG DO THEY HAVE IN THAT LOCATION? I JUST HOPE THAT WE DON'T TRY TO.

TAKE A. PART NORTHWEST SIDE OF WOODLAND.

SOMETHING. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO HEAR.

BUT IT'S. SO BY DOING THIS.

SO ABOUT. WE CAN REALLY DRIVE THE COST OF PARKS.

SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE REFERENCE POINTS OF FORMULATING THESE STANDARDS WAS, IS THE

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A LOT OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS AND STANDARDS HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THIS STANDARD. SO THERE HAS BEEN A VERY LOCALIZED KIND OF THINKING AND EXPECTATION WITH A LOT OF THIS THESE STANDARDS.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT NEW YORK'S CENTRAL PARK OR SOMETHING IN LOS ANGELES.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ANGLETON, TEXAS.

THAT'S RIGHT. I DON'T I'M SAYING NO SUGAR LAND.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT A LONG AGO.

WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON OUR FUNDING AVAILABLE TO BUILD A NEW PARK AND YOU HAVE A STANDARD OF THIS HUGE LIST WILL NOT BUILD IN PART BECAUSE WE CAN'T MEET ALL THOSE STANDARDS OR WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE HALF THIS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER AND STILL DO IT.

I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE THAT WE CAN MAKE.

WE'RE LIKE THIS IF WE WERE TO PUT UP BACKSTOPS FOR PEOPLE TOO.

I DON'T THINK OUR FIELDS HAVE THE HEADER AND THE FLARES, DO WE? AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT LOOKS GREAT.

BUT ANY TIME YOU GO ANGLED OR YOU DO THIS, THAT TOP IS GOING TO COST MORE THAN THE SIDES. AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE MORE.

BUT I GUESS THE INTENT IS TO KEEP A FASTBALL FROM HITTING OR WHEN COMING OFF HITTING SOMEBODY'S OUTSIDE.

BUT YOU ARE GOING TO SPEND THE DAYS THAT WE PUT UP A BACKSTOP AND SAY THE BACKSIDE OF BATES FIELD FOR SOMEBODY'S PLAY, IT WON'T BE IN COMPLIANCE.

YOU'LL HAVE TO DO THIS. AND I GUESS SOME OF THE THINGS IN CHARLOTTE AND JUST CHARLOTTE AND I TALK ABOUT IT, SOME THINGS ARE HARD, SOME ARE NOT.

BUT I CAN.

LAKESIDE PARK. WE HAD THE TEN FOOT CONCRETE PATH AROUND THE LAKE AND I WALKED AROUND IT DAY FOUR YESTERDAY AND A GOOD PORTION OF IT POURED.

BUT IF WE HAVE LIKE A CRUSHED GRAVEL OR CRUSHED GRANITE, I KNOW THAT'S LESS.

BUT THERE'S PLACES SOME PEOPLE LIKE THAT, SOME DON'T.

BUT I GUESS ANY OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS ALL HAVE TO BE ADA COMPLIANT.

ANY ANY WALKWAYS, ANY ACCESS.

AND BUT IF WE'RE DOING IT, I GUESS THERE'S PLACES WHERE WE WOULD DO A TRAIL LESS THAN TEN FOOT, I ASSUME THE MAJORITY OF OUR PATHS.

I THINK YOU HAVE AT TEN FOOT IN OUR STANDARDS NOW.

BUT IF YOU HAVE A CONNECTOR LIKE AT LAKESIDE FROM THE PARKING LOT, IS IT TEN FOOT TOO TO AN AREA. SO WE HAVE EVEN IN THE DESIGN SET FOR LAKESIDE PARK YOU HAVE AND IT'S LISTED HERE IN THE MANUAL TOO, YOU'LL SEE TEN AS THE PRIMARY LOOP TRAIL.

AND SO IF WE DO A TRAIL SYSTEM THROUGHOUT ANGLETON THAT CONNECTS ALL OF OUR PARK SYSTEMS, THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT THAT'S A TEN FOOT MULTIMODAL TRAIL, BUT THE SECONDARY LOOPS ARE SIX, ARE LISTED AS SIX.

AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE IN THE PARK LAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE THE MINIMUM PARK STANDARDS. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE SIDEWALKS ADJACENT TO THE STREET THAT FOLLOWS THE TYPICAL STANDARD WHICH I BELIEVE WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS FOUR FEET.

AND SO THAT'S SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT YOU'LL SEE AT LAKESIDE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR, SIX AND TEN.

I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, JOHN, BECAUSE WE CAN MAKE SOME OF IT COST PROHIBITIVE. YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE BACKSTOP, BACKSTOP AS AN EXAMPLE.

BACK IN THE DAY, YOU'D HAVE LEFT OVER CHAIN LINK AND SOME WHATEVER YOU HAD AND PUT IT IN THE GROUND AND THAT'S.

I LIKE. I LIKE.

IT IS FUNNY THAT WE.

NOT SO FAST.

FORMERLY, I THINK IN PAST EXPERIENCE, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

IT'S A CREDIT TO Y'ALL'S PROFESSIONALISM.

THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A TEAM EFFORT.

CITY STAFF, OUR SIDE.

YES, SIR.

THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MLC.

WHAT I WILL SAY IS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH.

IF YOU LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THE STANDARDS AND YOU SAYING, WE REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE THE STANDARD, LET US KNOW BEFORE WE GET THIS FINALIZED.

I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S A IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S ON BOARD BEFORE WE.

MOVE FORWARD WITH 100%.

SO THE DEADLINE FOR THAT IS THIS THIS WEEK? YES, IT'S THURSDAY.

I WOULD LIKE YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE THEN, THOUGH.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION THEN? OKAY. SO.

I WAS LOOKING AT FINANCIALS AND I DIDN'T PORE OVER THIS.

SO HERE'S MY QUESTION.

AT FREEDOM PARK. WE HAVE CRUSHED GRANITE THAT GOES AROUND AS A TRAILS.

NOW, THAT'S STILL OKAY, RIGHT? WE DO HAVE THAT IN THE STANDARDS MANUAL, BUT THE PREFERENCE FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT

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OKAY. SO LET ME BACK LET ME BACK UP.

OKAY. SO IF IF IT'S A WALKING TRAIL.

NO, LET ME DO IT THIS WAY.

SO IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN A CRUSHED GRANITE WALKWAY.

YES. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MATERIAL REPLACEMENT.

WE HAVE STAFF OUT THERE THAT ARE CONSTANTLY PUTTING HERBICIDE TO PREVENT ENCROACHMENT OF GRASS. SO FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE OUT THERE MORE AND SPENDING MORE TIME AND RESOURCES THAN WE WOULD IF WE PUT A CONCRETE TRAIL.

OKAY. THIS WEEKEND I WAS UP AT AT HERMANN PARK AND THEY HAVE A 15 FOOT CRUSHED GRANITE TRAIL THAT GOES BETWEEN THE GOLF COURSE OVER TO MILLER THEATER.

IT IS THERE? IS IT THAT WE'VE GOT MORE WEEDS IN THEM? I MEAN, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THINGS GET IN IT AND THEN WE HAVE TO KILL IT.

THAT WAS BEEN THERE.

IT WAS BACK IN 1979.

I LIVED IN HOUSTON.

SURE. AND THAT PROBABLY SPEAKS TO THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND MAINTENANCE THAT THEY PUT INTO IT AS WELL. SO IF WE NEED TO BE STAFF MORE FREQUENTLY TO TO PREVENT THOSE THINGS FROM OCCURRING, THEN AGAIN, IT JUST GOES BACK TO IT'S ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT IN TIME THAT YOU'RE REPLACING THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE, THE DOG, WHICH AGAIN, DOESN'T HAVE AS LONG AS THE LIFESPAN AS CONCRETE TRAILS AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, AGAIN, HERBICIDES THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO APPLY TO PREVENT THE ENCROACHMENT OF GRASS BECAUSE IT WHILE THERE'S BARRIERS THAT ARE SET DOWN INITIALLY OVER TIME, THOSE DEGRADE JUST LIKE FOR SURE THEY HAD A CONCRETE BARRIER THAT WAS ON.

WE DO THAT FREEDOM. WE HAVE CONCRETE BARRIERS, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S COMING UP FROM UNDERNEATH, UNDERNEATH.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE, LITTLE EASIER IF YOU'RE GOING TO JOG IT OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO RUN IT, WHICH I DO AS MUCH AS I USED TO DO THAT, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE NICER ON YOUR KNEES. GET IN YOUR SHOES.

THAT IS TRUE. ALSO.

THAT'S TRUE.

BUT BUT THERE ARE PLACES FOR IT.

I KNOW IF YOU GO TO HANSON, RIVERSIDE COUNTY PARK, OTHER PARKS THAT ARE MORE FORESTED, THEY LEAVE IT NATURAL.

YOU KNOW, THEY GO IN, THEY A CLEAR PATH WITH A MOTOR AND THEN THEY PUT THE GRANITE DOWN WITHOUT BORDERS. BUT I KNOW THEY PROBABLY GO BACK IN AND FILL IT.

AH THEY, THEY SCRAPE IT.

BUT THERE ARE SOME APPLICATIONS WHERE THAT CRUSHED GRANITE AND WE DON'T HAVE A PARK CLOSEST THING AS THE UNDEVELOPED FREEDOM THAT WE'D HAVE A FORCE TO KIND OF PARK.

BUT THESE DIFFERENT DESCRIPTIONS ON THE FALL PROTECTION OR SURFACING UNDER PLAYGROUNDS, IS THIS JUST FOR FOR DESCRIPTION OR ARE WE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM WOOD? OH, NO. WOOD FIBERS IN THERE ALSO.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE LAKESIDE.

THE INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND DOES HAVE A POOR IN PLACE.

AND SO THAT IS ALSO IT'S JUST SAYING THAT IS ALSO AN AN ACCEPTABLE FALL MATERIAL.

BUT FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, ASKING YOU AS PARKS DIRECTOR, DO YOU IS IT I KNOW IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT DO YOU SEE A BENEFIT, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WITH CONCRETE HAS TO GO TO A RUBBER? I DO, YES.

JUST BECAUSE THE LIFESPAN, IF YOU CAN MAINTAIN IT AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF POOR AND PLACE THAT YOU CAN USE.

AND EVEN THE TILES, IF IT BECOMES DAMAGED, THE TILES ARE NICE BECAUSE YOU CAN REPLACE THE DAMAGED TILE, BUT YOU ARE REPLACING DWF MORE FREQUENTLY THAN YOU WOULD.

OF COURSE, YOUR POOR IN PLACE AND THE POOR PLACE I WANT TO SAY IS IT AROUND 15 YEAR LIFESPAN? AND SO THAT'S NEARLY THE LIFESPAN, ESPECIALLY IN THE GULF COAST OF OUR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. SO YOU CAN CREATE THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE OF ADDRESSING THOSE TWO ITEMS AT THE SAME TIME.

SO YES, IT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE, BUT IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO, OF COURSE.

IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE.

REALLY, REALLY NICE.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME AND WE'LL CONVEY THOSE.

ON THURSDAY. TAKE EMILY HORNE.

SO. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, LOU.

THANK YOU. JUST TO BE SURE, IT DOESN'T HIT.

OH, GOOD. I DON'T WANT BLUE.

I LIKE GREEN. I'M TRADITIONAL.

I'M SORRY. I'M FIVE.

[5. Discuss and possible action on budget recommendations for Parks, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation division budgets for fiscal year 2022-2023. (Part 1 of 2)]

YES, I DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO KNOW, TANISHA DID GIVE US THAT BREAKDOWN FOR THE RECIPE.

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TELL ME AGAIN WHAT THE THING WAS FOR CHRISTMAS.

THE DOWNTOWN CHRISTMAS TREE.

SO. SO WE PAID FOR THE DOWNTOWN CHRISTMAS TREE? YES, IT'S IN THE REC CENTER, KIP.

YES, MA'AM. DON'T WANT.

WELL, WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE BUDGET WHERE, YOU KNOW, LC IS IS NOW PAYING FOR EVERYTHING FOR REX.

WELL, AND TO BE CLEAR, ABC HAS BEEN PAYING FOR A RECREATION.

WE'RE JUST DIVIDING IT OUT FOR YOU GUYS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS SPENT BY THE DIVISIONS. NOW THAT WE HAVE REORGANIZED THE THE DEPARTMENT SO THAT IT CAN BE SEEN WHERE YOUR EXPENSES ARE COMING FROM.

AND SO WE'LL GO TO THE FIRST PAGE OF THE BUDGET, WHICH WE HAVE AS A BULK LISTING OF REVENUES, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP AT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. I'M STILL TRYING TO GET THERE.

SORRY. I'M SO SORRY. PAGE 27.

WHAT? OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NO, KEEP GOING.

STILL KIMBERLY HORNE.

THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

THERE WE GO. OKAY.

I APPRECIATE CHRIS TECH KNOWING ME HERE.

I HAVE TO ASK MY GRANDDAUGHTERS HOW TO DO IT.

GOOD. OKAY.

THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON PAGE 187.

AGAIN, WE JUST KEPT THAT FLAT.

SO WE'RE USING THE SAME NUMBER AS THIS BUDGETED YEAR.

BUT THIS BUDGETED YEAR, THE NUMBER REALLY WAS 1982765.

YOU'RE SHOWING 1764482.

THE BUDGET 2122 HAS A A THE ACTUAL BUDGETED AMOUNT IS.

1982765. IT'S RIGHT HERE ON THE FIRST PAGE.

SO THAT THAT IS NOT RIGHT.

RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE.

2122. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S NOT FLAT.

RIGHT? RIGHT. THIS SHOULD BE RIGHT THERE.

SO IF YOU GO BACK THE I THINK IT WAS PAGE ONE, THE MARCH 31ST, IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE SUPPORTING. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN I PRINTED IT OUT, IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY PAGE NUMBERS ON IT.

THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR INTEREST INCOME IS $4,500.

THE CURRENT SALES PORTION OF OUR.

AND IT'S THIS TRANSFER FROM SWIMMING POOL.

WHAT DOES IT SAY? THAT.

IT SHOULD BE THE LINE ITEM THAT SALES TAX PORTION.

AND IT'S 1982765, WHICH THEN WOULD LEAVE IT FLAT TO 1982765.

NOW ALSO ON THAT LINE ITEM WHEN IT HAS TRANSFER FROM FUN BALANCE YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MADE THOSE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS THE CURRENT BUDGET HAS 400,000, BUT WE DON'T WANT.

I MEAN, YOU HAVEN'T MADE THOSE YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.

CORRECT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TRANSFER.

AND FOR I THINK THIS IS THE PREVIOUS YEAR, IF YOU ASK ME, MEGAN, THAT WAS THE.

AND I'M JUST BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 14%.

LET'S SEE. YEAH.

I THINK THIS IS THE, THE BUDGET FOR 2021.

I BET THAT'S WHAT THAT IS WRONG.

SAYING GET DROPPED IN.

WE'LL CORRECT THAT.

YOU'RE SAYING ON ALL THREE I'M MOVING TO I WAS LOOKING AT ONE OF THE MISCELLANEOUS 520 ACCOUNTS THAT $314,000 SITTING THERE.

THAT'S THE CATCHALL FOR EVERYTHING.

RIGHT? SAY.

WHAT DOES THIS BOARD WANT TO DO? CORRECT. CORRECT.

AND SO WHAT WE DISCUSSED, WE HAD SOME PROJECTS, POTENTIAL PROJECTS ITEMIZE.

LAST TIME THAT WE BROUGHT THE BUDGET TO THEM AT THE BRIDGET WORKS SHOP ON THE 21ST OF

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OKAY IN.

THIS RIGHT HERE.

IS. OKAY.

SO THIS IS A BLC.

THIS HAS OUR SALES TAX.

AND THEN PAGE 187 AND 188, NO 187 ZERO REVENUES AND 188 IS YOUR EXPENSES.

WELL, BUT ONE OC OC OC I GOTCHA OC.

SO. SO THIS IS.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, WE'VE GOT 30% OF PARKS PERSONNEL COST THE OC, THE DEBT TRANSFERS, WHICH COMES OFF THE SCHEDULE AND THEN WE'VE GOT OPERATIONS.

SO THE OPERATIONS OF THE REC CENTER ARE AT 485 AND THEN THE RECREATIONAL DIVISION IS 371.

TO RUN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT EXCLUSIVE OF OF THE MOWING PEACE.

AND THEN.

THERE'S $314,000 THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WITH.

CORRECT? OKAY.

AND THAT IS BASED OFF OF THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD HERE FOR REVENUES.

RIGHT. WHICH IS.

EXACTLY. WELL, AND HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY AS WE GET FURTHER DOWN HERE, WE CAN SEE IS THAT 14% INCREASE THAT WE BUDGETED.

IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT REALISTIC? THAT'S EXACTLY.

SO. AND THIS WOULD BE A GREAT TIME WHEN WE'RE MENTIONING LINE ITEM 520 TO DISCUSS THOSE POTENTIAL PROJECTS.

THAT AND THAT WAS THE ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

YOU KNOW, WE WE BEGAN THAT CONVERSATION THREE YEARS AGO AND STOPPED.

BUT THE NEED IS STILL THERE.

WE IT HASN'T CHANGED.

IF ANYTHING, IT'S MORE DURING COVID.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED A LOT.

BUT BUT WE HAVE A PLAN.

AND WHAT WAS THE PRICE? YOU SAID THAT I WANT TO SAY.

I'M TRYING TO LOOK THAT UP RIGHT NOW.

I WANT TO SAY IT'S AROUND 65.

I CAN'T BE CERTAIN. I THINK HE TOLD ME 65,000.

RIGHT. AND THAT WAS A PERCENTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COST.

SO THAT WOULD BE FOR THE DESIGN.

RIGHT. RIGHT. SO 65,000.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE ALL THE THINGS THAT WOULD THAT BE THE WHEN I BRING IT WITH ME.

BUT THE PASSIVE DESIGN HAD TRAILS BY NEXT TO THE RATIO SCHOOL AND RIGHT ACROSS THE DETENTION DITCH.

AND OR WOULD IT BE ONLY THE THINGS WOULD JUST BE THE NORTHERN TRACK OAK.

AND THAT'S PRIMARILY I THINK WHAT WE WOULD USE MORE.

BUT I FORGOT TO BRING THAT PASS WHEN WE GOT THE PLAN FROM BURDETT.

HE HAVE ACTIVE THE PASSIVE PART WAS ACROSS FROM THE DITCH.

AND YOU KNOW EVEN WHEN GEORGE WAS HERE WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THAT BRIDGE AND DOING SOMETHING ACROSS THERE. BUT THE TRAIL SYSTEM OUT THERE AND WE HAD WHAT THEY CALLED A BRUSH LAND AND THEY CALLED, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE PROPERTY.

AND I ASSUME THAT'S STILL IT'S A MEANDERING TRAIL THROUGH THERE.

THE PRICE THAT THAT SHE GAVE AS A ROUGH I'M ASSUMING IT'S 638 AND IN HER HER THE OTHER THINGS AND I BRING THAT WITH WITH ME EITHER BUT WAS SHE TALKING ABOUT CONCRETE TRAILS OUT THERE WAS SHE TALKING ABOUT SO ACTUALLY THAT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WE NEED TO DISCUSS.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU WITH THE KINLEY HORN GROUP, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DECOMPOSED GRANITE IN THAT AREA. COULD I REMEMBER.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S 88 ACCESSIBLE, WHATEVER IT IS.

I JUST REMEMBER THE NUMBER OF SHE GAVE AND SHE HAD THINGS IN THE INITIAL.

THE INITIAL PROPOSAL WHEN THEY CAME UP WITH A SIX AND A HALF MILLION FOR THE HOME PARK.

AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE TRAILS BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, WHATEVER, THREE YEARS OR MORE BEFORE WE CAN HAVE A BOND OR WHENEVER ONE OF THESE EXPIRES.

WHAT'S THAT GOING TO BE LONGER IF WE'RE SPENDING EIGHT OVER 850,000 TO PAY FOR RECREATION? SO WHAT I LOOKED AT IS WHAT CAN WE DO WITHOUT A BOND? AND IF WE GET 64, 65,000 TO FOR DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE TRAIL WE COULD FULFILL.

AND I LOOK AT IT FROM THE PARK SPORT SIDE, TOO.

WE GET WE GET ALL THE SURVEYS.

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AND YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL USE IT.

AND SO IT'LL SERVE A BIG POPULATION VERSUS SAY SOMETHING SMALL.

I WANT TO DO THE TENNIS COURT, BUT THAT'S A SMALLER ONE, BUT THAT'S ALSO CHEAP IN RELATION TO WHAT WE SPEND WITH THE CENTER.

HEY, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? DO WE DO WE HAVE WHAT? THE RENTAL COST? WE DO NOT HAVE THAT BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN DESIGNED, I WILL SAY.

GOSH, CHRIS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP ME OUT, BUT MORE EXPENSIVE, OBVIOUSLY.

WHEN WE TALKED WITH I BELIEVE IT WAS CLARK CONDON AT THE TIME AND I COULD POTENTIALLY PULL UP AN EMAIL, I ASKED THEM TO GIVE US AN ESTIMATE AND I WANT TO SAY IT WAS AROUND 100,000. I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE THAN THAT, BUT IT PROBABLY WAS.

THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT TO.

IT'S SORT OF LIKE DON'T ASK.

IT'S SORT OF LIKE, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? WELL, ASK HIM TO KEEP IN MIND TO JUST WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO ABOUT 88 ACCESSIBILITY.

WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE THAT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH THE BRIDGE WOULD BE NICE, IT WOULD GET ACCESS, ACCESS TO WHO IS WHAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

SO WHEN CHRIS TALKED ABOUT THE PLAN, I LOOKED AT IT IN WHOLE RATHER THAN SOME OF THE PARTS. SURE. WELL, BUT CAN I ASK IT THIS WAY? SO THE THE NORTHERN SECTION OF FREEDOM PARK.

HOW DO PEOPLE YOU GET OVER THERE? YOU DRIVE YOUR TRUCK.

HOW DID PEOPLE GET OVER THERE? I'LL SHOW YOU. SEE THIS PICTURE? THAT'S WHAT IT. CAMPUS DRIVE.

THIS IS A BACK. THIS IS AN EXISTING FREEDOM PARK TRAIL.

GREG DIKES BENCH IS BACK THERE.

HERE'S HERE'S A RETRO DITCH.

HERE'S THE COMING IN ON THE OTHER SIDE.

IF YOU GO ACROSS CAMPUS, DRIVE FROM THE SCHOOL, THERE'S A STATION AND I DROVE BACK THERE. AND SO IT'S WHEN YOU GET OUT THERE AND YOU GO THROUGH THE TREES, YOU GET TO THIS BIG OPEN AREA AND THE TWO ACRE POND LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT BACK, WE'RE DOING THIS PARK.

AND ANYWAY, I TOOK A LOT OF PICTURES, BUT WHAT MEGAN WAS SAYING, THE BRIDGE, IT'S A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE UNTIL WE CONNECT IT GOING ACROSS FROM IT.

AND I DIDN'T BRING IT, BUT GOING ACROSS FROM IT'S FURTHER DOWN TOWARD RANCHO RANCHO ISABELLA, THE NORTH TRAIL THAT LOOPS AROUND THE NORTH SIDE, BACK CLOSER TO THEM.

IT WOULD CROSS OVER INTO THIS PROPERTY.

IF YOU LOOK AT GOOGLE EARTH OR THE BURDETT PLAN WE HAD, IT WOULD CROSS DOWN THERE.

BUT. AND YOU CAN GO DIRECTLY.

YOU HAVE THE DISTANCE FROM OUR EXISTING TRAIL DOWN TO WHERE THE BRIDGE WAS START TO GO OVER THE IT'D BE A FREE SPAN BRIDGE GET TO THAT SIDE AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT EASEMENT I JUST SHOWED YOU AND THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, RIGHT.

THERE MAY BE 30 OR 40 FEET IF YOU'VE GOT TO CONNECT FROM THAT SIDE OF THE BRIDGE INTO YOUR TRAIL SYSTEM. SO.

YEAH. YOU'RE IT'S A WHOLE THE WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW, YOU GET THE BRIDGE GETS YOU THERE.

BUT WE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO A BRIDGE TO CARRY MOWERS.

THEY HAVE A WAY AROUND IT.

YOU CAN GET RIGHT OFF CAMPUS, DRIVE IN IT.

THE BIGGER THE MORE EQUIPMENT YOU PUT ON IT, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT'S GOING TO GET.

SO IT COULD BE FOR ZERO TURNS, IT COULD BE PEDESTRIANS, YOU COULD PUT BOLLARDS IN IT.

YOU KEEP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING ACROSS IT, WHICH YOU WOULD WANT TO DO.

BECAUSE WHEN I WENT OUT THERE LAST LAST WEEK, IT WAS A LOT OF TRACKS FOR PEOPLE TO PULL OUT THERE TO GO FISHING.

BUT TO ME, IT'S IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR THREE YEARS OR MORE AND WE JUST HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD.

WE JUST LOST TRACK OF IT IN BACK IN 2020.

I DID FIND THE EMAIL FROM ELIZABETH GILBERT.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS MAY HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2020, BUT SHE WAS ESTIMATING A COST AT $1,750 PER LINEAR FOOT FOR A BRIDGE.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT DEPENDS ON HOW WIDE THAT BRIDGE IS.

AND SHE WAS LOOKING AT A GOOGLE EARTH IMAGE, SO MEASURED A BRIDGE, 100 TO 125 FEET LONG.

SO THE ESTIMATE WAS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 210 AND 265.

THAT'S. GOTCHA.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE PER FOOT OF A TRAILER.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD.

NOW. JUST HEAR ME OUT BEFORE YOU'LL JUMP ON ME.

NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUMP ON. SO WE HAVE $314 MILLION LEFT IN CONTINGENCY.

THAT'S THE SPEND AT THE MOMENT.

BASED ON THE RANGE OF EVERYTHING.

HE HAS A DEBT SERVICE.

HAVE THE 162,000 LAST DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT ON THE 2013 FUNDING.

SO YOU'RE DROPPING.

DROPPING A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.

YEAH. BUT YOU CAN DROP ANOTHER 100,000.

20, 20, 23, 24.

BETWEEN 536 OR 28.

SO IF WE WERE IN I'M NOT JOE MAURO, BUT I WAS HOPING WE'D HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO HIM.

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BASED OFF OF THE 3 MILLION, ROUGHLY, THAT WE BONDED ON LAKESIDE USING AS A ROUGH ESTIMATE.

SO YOU HAVE SOME CAPACITY IN MY MIND TO GO OUT FOR DEBT SERVICE THAT WOULD MAKE THE FIRST DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT.

AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THAT DEBT, THE 2013 FALLS OFF.

YOU STILL HAVE THE CAPACITY RUNNING AS YOU GO THROUGH TO DO A $3 MILLION BOND, IN MY MIND. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK JOE MORROW, TO SAY YOU'RE RIGHT OR NO, YOU'RE WRONG.

IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE OTHER EXPENSES, THE THE EXPENSES THAT WE WILL.

WHEN LAST TIME WE WENT OUT FOR THIS WAS.

THAT'S THE MOST. WELL, NOW, THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE BECAUSE BACK WHEN WE DID THE LAKESIDE PIECE, WE WERE ALREADY UP TO OVER 700,000.

NOW, WHAT HAPPENED WAS I DON'T KNOW THAT HE KNEW HE KNEW ABOUT CITY MAKING US PAY FOR THE PARKS THING. WE HAD THAT LENGTHY CONVERSATION.

YES. WE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT AND HE DID SAY IT.

IT WAS LIKE A DING ON A CREDIT TO WHAT WE'RE DOING DOES LIMIT WHAT WE CAN BORROW AND LIMITS WHEN WE CAN BORROW IT. IT'S ALSO DEPENDENT ON SALES TAX REVENUES.

AND THEN I AGREE WITH YOU ON FINDING A WAY TO LOWER THAT ACTIVITY CENTER TRANSFER AND THE RECREATION TRANSFER, AND I'LL BE RIGHT THERE WITH YOU LOCKSTEP.

BUT SO IN MY MIND, IF YOU COULD GO AND DO.

MY PROPERTY IS A BIG FIELD AT FREEDOM.

AND THEN TO ME THAT IS A NECESSITY IN THIS TOWN THAT I'VE HEARD FROM LOTS OF CITIZENS ON. I DEFINITELY WANT TO TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

AND. WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER ITEMS. THE OTHER ITEMS. FOUR SPLASH PADS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND I AGREE WITH CHRIS ON WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE EVERYTHING THAT CAME IN THE FREEDOM PARK MASTERPLAN AND DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME. WE COULD DO LITTLE PIECES.

WE HAVE AN UNFINISHED PARK THAT WE NEVER GOT TO FINISH THAT IT'S STILL AFTER.

BUT WE GOT A LOT OF PRIORITIES AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO TACKLE.

SO OVER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THEN CAN YOU GET THE BATTLEFIELD BREAKOUT? I WOULD THINK BURDETT IT MEGAN AS WELL.

IT WAS I THINK IT WAS IN THERE, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT.

BUT THE OTHER COMMITMENT, YOU KNOW, 3 MILLION AND TODAY AND I CAN JUST TELL YOU FROM MY INDUSTRY DOESN'T GO NEAR AS FAR AS IT DID TWO YEARS AGO.

AND IT'S JUST WELL, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL.

MY MATERIAL HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY AND EVERYTHING I'VE BUILT.

BUT THE WE WE I I'M ALL FOR BROWNFIELDS, TOO, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE NEED. AND I'M ALL FOR THE TRAIL.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT SERVES A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE VERSUS THE BATTLEFIELD, NOTHING AGAINST IT BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED IT.

BUT THE ABIGAIL PARK, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD BUILD IT FOR $3 MILLION.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT CUMULATIVE.

WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES? OUR PRIORITIES? THE TRAIL SYSTEM, BATTLEFIELD, AND THEN ABIGAIL AND THEN WHATEVER ELSE. THAT MURDER PLAN WAS KIND OF A BIG, PRETTY SHINY OBJECT, BUT WE KNEW WE COULDN'T DO ALL OF IT.

CORRECT. WE HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT OUR RESIDENTS NEED.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THE REC CENTER IS A.

UNSUSTAINABLE FOR US TO DO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO DO.

SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT UNDER CONTROL.

THAT'S THE THING. 314,000 NEEDS JUST TO SIGN OFF ON THE BALLOT OR ON THE.

YOU CAN SAY THAT WE'RE GOING.

OH, WE COULD. BUT IT'S NOT THE 314,000.

OKAY, COUNCILMAN.

SO WHY DOES THE CITY NOT PAY FOR ANY RECREATION STUFF? WHY IS IT ALL NOW ON THE.

I THINK THE DECISION WAS MADE BACK IN.

WAS THAT THE BUDGET HERE OR WAS WHATEVER SCOTT ALBUM, WHATEVER THAT WAS I THINK WAS 2017. FIND A WAY TO.

COME ON.

ONE FUNDING SOURCE TO THE OTHER.

AND AND ONCE YOU DO IT, IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO GO BACKWARDS.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU ON THE RECORD FOR THAT BECAUSE NOBODY TOLD US.

WELL, AND I JUST. I WANT TO CLARIFY.

SHE WASN'T HERE. YEAH, I WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME EITHER.

BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AGAIN, RECREATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN UNDER THE

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PARKS HAS NOT.

SO WHAT WE DID WHEN WE TOOK OUT THE WHEN WE SEPARATED THE TWO INTO DIVISIONS, WE WANTED IT TO BE CLEAR OF WHERE THAT MONEY WAS GOING AND HOW THOSE FUNDS WERE BE SPENT, SPENT ON PERSONNEL, RESOURCES, WHAT REVENUE WAS COMING IN FOR ASSOCIATED PROGRAMS VERSUS MEMBERSHIPS AND RENTALS.

SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I AGAIN, I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE PRIOR TO 2018, SO I DON'T I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I WILL FULLY SUPPORT LOWERING IT OVER TIME SPAN AND GETTING IT DOWN.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO.

WELL, NOBODY IT CAN'T BE A PENDULUM.

IT CAN'T GO THE OTHER WAY THAT THAT UPSETS EVERYTHING.

BUT DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN WHEN SCOTT ABBOTT WALKED IN HERE AND SAID THEY WON'T BE THE CITY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BALANCE THEIR BUDGET WITHOUT OUR HELP.

YEAH. AND HE SAID IT'S NOT PERMANENT, WE JUST DO IT.

IT WAS VERY CLEAR TO US THIS WAS TEMPORARY.

BUT IT'S BECOME LIKE YOU SAID, ONCE WE DO IT, HE'S GONE.

SO WHICH THANKFULLY SO.

BUT IT WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN'T TAKE BACK.

YOU KNOW, I GUY SENT BACK AND THAT'S THAT'S A PROBLEM.

IF WE HAD A STATIC POPULATION AND WE'RE AT 20,000 FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB OF SUPPLYING THE RECREATIONAL NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO GROW BY 50% OR WHATEVER.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BUILD NEW RECREATIONAL FACILITIES WHEN WE'RE DROWNING WITH THE REC CENTER BECAUSE THAT AND JAMAL WAS CLEAR, IT DOES IMPACT US.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE WE CAN FIND PLACES, HOPEFULLY KYLE'S PLANS AND MEGAN'S PLANS TO GET REVENUE UP AND WE CAN WORK TOWARD THAT.

BUT THE OTHER ISSUE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON BUILDING AND MAINTENANCE, THAT BUILDING IS GETTING OLDER AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME STUFF AT ONE OF THESE UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS ABOUT REPAIRS. AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHEN YOU HAVE A REPAIR THERE, IT'S NOT 5000, YOU KNOW, ROOFS, THE AIR CONDITIONERS, EVERYTHING.

IT'S WE TALK ABOUT MILLIONS.

SO SO THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE ENCUMBRANCE ON US FOR QUITE A WHILE.

SO I TRY TO THINK AND WHEN I PUT THE NUMBERS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO BUILD ABIGAIL? HOW ARE WE GOING TO BUILD WHAT WE WANT IN FREEDOM? HOW ARE WE GOING TO BUILD THE NEW FACILITIES? AND THEN PLAYGROUNDS CAN WEAR OUT A LOT FASTER IF YOU GOT 50% MORE USAGE.

SO THOSE HAVE TO BE REPLACED MORE OFTEN.

SO I CAN'T MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM AS LONG AS WE'RE SPENDING 800, YOU KNOW, JUST UNDER $1,000,000 A YEAR FOR ONE ONE FACILITY.

IN ALL FAIRNESS, IT'S NOT JUST ONE FACILITY.

IT'S IT'S THE RECREATION DIVISION THAT HAS GROWN.

SO SO WHAT WE'VE GOT IS WE'VE GOT THE REC CENTER AND IT'S OPERATIONS UNDER THE BUILDING. BUT THEN THERE IS A RECREATION DIVISION THAT IS PARK AND REX THAT STARTED MOVING OVER TO US BECAUSE SCOTT READ THE FINE PRINT AND DECIDED EVEN THOUGH THE VOTERS DID NOT VOTE FOR THAT, THAT THAT THIS HALF CENT SALES TAX WAS GOING TO BE REPLACING WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE BUDGET TO RECREATION FUNDING.

SO BUT HERE'S WHERE WE ARE.

THIS IS THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD ARE AND I AGREE AND I THINK I WON'T SPEAK FOR CHRIS, BUT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY PERSONNEL FOR EACH OF THE DIVISIONS, WHETHER IT BE PARKS, RECREATION, THE ANGLETON CENTER OPERATIONS.

EVERY TIME A DECISION IS MADE BY STAFF ADMINISTRATIVELY THAT IMPACTS EMPLOYEES, THEN WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO COME TO THE CORPORATION AND EITHER GET ADDITIONAL APPROVAL. I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER IF PERSONNEL SPECIFICALLY WERE MOVED UNDER GENERAL FUND.

ABSOLUTELY. I HATE I HATE SAYING, WELL, ARE YOU RUNNING THAT RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AS WELL, I DON'T DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTIZE.

I CAN READ FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RUN A REC CENTER.

BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHEN IT'S EXPLAINED WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

BUT WITH WITH THESE NUMBERS, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT MAKES IT THE BEST APPROACH ON REVENUE IS TO KEEP IT FLAT AND HOPEFULLY WE GET TO THE 14%.

I HOPE SO. IF ANYBODY HERE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

OKAY. WIND ROSE.

GREEN. I ALWAYS HAVE TO SAY THAT SLOW.

IT IS OUTSIDE THE CITY, BUT THEY'RE BUILDING LOTS OF STUFF AS THOSE THINGS GET DELIVERED THERE FOR CONSTRUCTION.

DOES ANGLETON GET THAT SALES TAX? I DON'T THINK SO. SEE, I GOT TO THINKING, CHRIS HALE'S NOTHING OUT OF THAT, BUT IN TOWN WE DO. IF YOU SURE.

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NO, NO. AN ORIGINATION OF POINT OF SALE, I BELIEVE.

WELL, THE POINT OF SALE DOESN'T, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.

FOR INSTANCE, I HAVE LIKE ALL MY MY MY PROJECTS.

I MAY HAVE ANY GIVEN MONTH.

I MAY BUY $1,000,000 WORTH OF MATERIAL.

AND IT'S GOT A LOVER.

WELL, HALF A MILLION OR MORE.

AND BUT VERY, ALMOST NONE OF IT GOES TO THE CITY.

I BUY IT FROM EITHER A LUMBERYARD OR SANTA FE, BUY IT FROM RICHWOOD OR WHEREVER I'M GETTING THE MATERIAL FROM.

BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN TALKING TO THEIR PEOPLE, THEY GO, YOU KNOW, LIKE AMAZON, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT THE BIG THING IS THAT AND I THINK CHRIS HILL WAS WAS NOT QUITE ACCURATE BECAUSE HE MENTIONED EVERYTHING THAT COMES HERE.

IT'S WHERE IT'S COMING FROM IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.

IT'S NOT WHERE TO FROM WHERE IT ORIGINATES ON A DELIVERY.

THEY GET IT. LET'S SAY IT'S COMING FROM MCCOY'S RICHWOOD RICHWOOD, GAINES, THE SALES TAX, NOT ANGLETON WHERE IT'S JUST WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET TO IS HOW REASONABLE HOW REASONABLE IS 14%? I THOUGHT IT UNREASONABLE, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE COUNCIL PASSED OUR BUDGET INSTEAD OF ESTIMATING TOO.

SO I'M LIKE GOING, OKAY, WELL CLEARLY WE ALL GET STUFF DELIVERED TO OUR HOUSE WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET THAT. BUT NOW HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE THAT IS.

I, I HAVE NO FEEL.

I HAVE NO FEEL IF, IF THAT IS REASONABLE OR NOT.

BUT WITHIN THE ENTIRE SPAN OF THE 12 MONTHS WE'RE GOING TO BE BENEFITING FROM THAT.

WE WILL BE GETTING THOSE INCREASES.

BUT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING FROM THAT.

WE WON'T GET ANYTHING FROM THE CONSTRUCTION UNLESS THEY GO AND STOP IT LIKE HARDWARE AND NEED SOME SUPPLIES OR ELECTRICAL STUFF OR START IN OTHER PLACES.

BUT THEN YOU GET THE SALES TAX JUMP IS GOING TO BE.

RIGHT. AND IT'S NOT JUST ORDERING, ORDERING AND GETTING DELIVERED HERE.

SO I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF AMAZON IS GOING TO DO IT FOR US, MY HUSBAND WILL BRING IN AT LEAST 2% OF THAT 14% ON AMAZON PURCHASES.

SO IF YOU LOOK IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY SIDE, THE CITY IS GOING TO GET GOBS OF PROPERTY TAX. AND SO THEY WILL BE GETTING ENOUGH NOT FOR WIND.

ROSE, I KNOW WHEN ROSE IS OUT THERE, THEY'RE GETTING CITY SERVICES, WATER, SEWER, BUT YOU DON'T SUPPLY POLICE OR EMERGENCY TO THEM, DO YOU? THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT. THAT WAS A WEIRD THAT'S A DIFFERENT DEAL.

BUT I THINK WE DO Y'ALL DID A REALLY WEIRD AGREEMENT ON THAT ONE WE DON'T WIN WIN RUNS ALSO GET THE DIRT AND AND THAT IS WHERE THE TRACK OF FREEDOM.

YEAH YEAH.

THE CULVERTS.

BUT SO DEVELOPING THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE TO.

IT WASN'T LIKE THEY DID IT.

THEY WERE NICE, RIGHT? IT WAS IT WENT WITH THE LAND.

SO I GUESS WE'RE I'M JUST TO TRY TO ADVANCE THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK THAT THE 14% IS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO AT THE MOMENT.

WE'RE HOPING THAT IT IT CONTINUES TO GO WHERE AT 9.25 AT THE MOMENT, HOPEFULLY IT GETS TO 14%.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE ANOTHER REAL BUDGET DISCUSSION LIKE IN IN JUNE.

OKAY. SO WE LEAVE THAT.

WE WE DROP THE RENT NUMBER IN AND WE LEAVE THAT AND.

THESE ARE.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THE REST OF THESE ARE PLUGGED NUMBERS.

RIGHT. SO THE SECOND PAGE IS A PLUG AT 188.

SO THESE ARE HIGHLIGHTED ON 188 BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS ALL CHANGES BASED OFF OF I MEAN, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF IS NO, THANK YOU FOR THE RED THINGS.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

AS FAR AS SOME OF THE TRANSFERS.

I WILL SAY THAT STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO APPLY A 4% COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR PERSONNEL.

I BELIEVE THE LAST TWO YEARS IT WAS A 1% AND INFLATION RATES ARE WELL BEYOND THAT.

SO THAT WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS GOING TO BE THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL. I WILL ALSO SAY THIS REALLY ISN'T APPLICABLE TO HLC, BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THE SUBSEQUENT PAGES, YOU'LL SEE HEALTH INSURANCE, BUILDING INSURANCE.

WE'VE BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION BY THE HR DEPARTMENT ON THE POTENTIAL INCREASES THERE.

SO THOSE NUMBERS MAY COME DOWN.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.

SO HOW DO YOU PLUG IN PROJECTED REVENUE FOR THE PARKS? FOR INSTANCE, YOU RIVERWOOD RANCH, YOU'VE GOT YOU KNOW, HOW MANY LOTS ARE YOU KNOW WHAT THE PARKLAND FEE IS WITH 2377.

IF THEY'VE GOT WELL.

AND SO ACTUALLY THAT CHANGES.

AND THAT'S A REALLY GREAT POINT.

AND I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE LAND.

AND SO IT'S NOT A SET NUMBER, BUT WE'VE RUN SOME OF THOSE CALCULATIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR RIVERWOOD RANCH BASED ON THE APPRAISED VALUE AND FOR THEIR SUBSEQUENT PHASING.

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BUT HOW DO YOU PROJECT I MEAN, WHERE DO YOU LET'S SAY YOU GET 200,000 OUT OF ONE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE AUSTIN COUNTY BE A BIG NUMBER BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT SHOWN ANYWHERE IN HERE? YOU JUST PUT IT IN WHEN YOU GET IT RIGHT? EXACTLY. AS SOON AS THE FUNDS ARE RECEIVED THROUGH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE RECORDED BECAUSE IT HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE.

IF WE DON'T SPEND THOSE FUNDS WITHIN TEN YEARS, THE DEVELOPER CAN COME BACK AND ASK FOR A REFUND.

BUT IT GETS DISTRIBUTED TO THE DWELLING UNITS, NOT THE DEVELOPER, BECAUSE IT IS THE DEVELOPER OR EXCUSE ME, RESIDENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY INCURRING THAT FEE.

SO IT GETS PROPORTIONATELY DIVIDED TO THOSE RESIDENTS IF WE DON'T USE IT.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S THAT'S HOW WE THAT'S HOW WE DO.

ABIGAIL ABIGAIL PARK.

WELL, THAT'S HOW SOME OF THAT LAND PURCHASE WELL SOME THINGS WE USE THE PARKLAND FEES, BUT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO GO UP UNLESS THERE IS A COUNCIL, CANDY THAT HAS SPREAD OUT. I CALL THAT WHEN THEY GET VARIANCES, IT'S CANDY.

SO IF THEY COULD GIVE A VARIANCE TO SOME OF THESE FEES, THEN WE WON'T GET IT OR THEY WON'T GET IT. OKAY.

SO LET'S HOPE THEY DON'T DO THAT.

SO SO WHEN SHE WAS TALKING EARLIER, WHEN WE STARTED THIS, SHE SAID WE HAD 314,000 THAT WE COULD DO PROJECTS. IT'S ON THE IT'S 188.

THE THING THAT'S DESCRIBED AS CONTINGENT DID WE DID WE HAVE NOT DECIDED JOHN TALKED ABOUT HOLDING IT I GUESS FOR A FUTURE BOND WE TALKED ABOUT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS NUMBER IS GOING TO GO UP AS ASSET OF REVENUE GOES UP.

AND WHAT I WANT US AND I THINK WE ALREADY MADE THAT CLEAR, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND IT ON THINGS OUTSIDE THE ABL, SEE WHAT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO.

FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE DID THE ABA, WE DID THE OTHER STUFF.

WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

WE DID WE DID THE ADA AND THE PARK STANDARDS.

RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY COMES TO US AND IT'S FOR WHATEVER SOMETHING OBSCURE THAT IS NOT UNDER THE BOX REQUIREMENT, WE JUST HAVE TO SAY NO. IN THE PAST WE WERE AGREEABLE.

BUT REALISTICALLY, AFTER READING THE BYLAWS AND THE ARTICLES AND CORPORATION, OUR OBLIGATION IS TO THE CORPORATION, NOT TO THE CITY, NOT TO THE PARKS, NOT TO WHATEVER.

I MEAN, WE WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

AND THERE'S TIMES I QUESTION IF WE HAVE BEEN, BUT IF WE GET BACK TO THAT 520, I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.

DO WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS? YOU KNOW, IF WE HOLD OFF FOR 3,000,003 YEARS, DO WE WANT TO STOP DOING PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, FOR A BOND? HE'S TALKING ABOUT GOING OUT FOR BOND.

AND BY THE TIME YOU CAN GET IT AND BY THE TIME YOU DO GET IT, BY THE TIME YOU GET DESIGN SERVICES, ALL THIS YOU COULD BE TALKING ABOUT QUITE A FEW YEARS.

YOU KNOW HOW THINGS WORK LIKE MOLASSES HERE.

BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE COULD PROBABLY DO MUCH SOONER.

AND THAT WAS THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THE TRAIL IS IT'S 65, SIX, WHATEVER, THOUSAND.

WELL, BUT, BUT WE CAN'T BUILD A TRAIL IF WE CAN'T GET ACROSS TO IT.

WELL AND THAT'S WHAT SAY DO WE DO IT INCREMENTALLY, DO WE GET PEOPLE OUT THERE TO ENJOY THE PROPERTY OR DO WE WAIT FOR THE BIG BOND AND WE DON'T EVEN GET THEM THERE? THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO IN MY MIND.

YOU CAN GET THEM THERE.

I THINK YOU SAID Y'ALL WALKED OUT THERE BEFORE TO THE TRAIL.

DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A TEN FOOT CONCRETE.

SOMETIMES WE'RE GETTING THEM THERE AND THEN THEY GO OUT AND EXPLORE THE PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE ALL THAT AND THAT WAY YOU START OUT, YOU'VE GOT YOUR BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN WHICH IS THE BIGGEST COST.

WELL, ONE OF THE COSTS AND THEN YOU GO FROM THERE.

BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ON THE PARKS BOARD SIDE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR A LONG TIME.

AND I KNOW IT'S NOT THE ABL SIDE, BUT WE'RE NO, WE'RE YEAH.

THE PARKS AND ELSIE REALLY WORKED TOGETHER AND WE HAVE FOR 15 YEARS THE SAME.

YEAH. I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, YOU KNOW.

INPUT DOWN THAT WAY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, ARE WE ANYWHERE NEAR EVEN WANTING TO HAVE A BOND? BECAUSE WHEN HE CAME AND TALKED TO US, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT TIME.

IT'S JUST NOT THREE YEARS.

YEAH, IT'S THREE YEARS.

UNLESS SOMETHING DRAMATICALLY IMPROVES.

AND IT COULD. IT COULD.

SO MY, I MEAN, MY FEELING IS LET'S DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LET'S FINISH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE STARTED.

LET'S, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE LINGERING THINGS.

SOME SOME THAT THE WHOLE.

FREEDOM PARK EXPANSION.

THAT WAS NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN PLANNED ON DOING, YOU KNOW, BUT BECAUSE OF WIND ROSE GREEN AND BECAUSE OF ALL OF THAT, WE ENDED UP HERE WE ARE.

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I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DOING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO OVER THERE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE IN POSITION TO WIDEN THAT SOFTBALL FIELD.

BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WHEN WE GET IN POSITION TO MAKE THAT EITHER, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN THAT HAS COME UP.

OH, YEAH. YEAH. THE WHOLE TIME I'VE BEEN ON ON AB LC.

SO I GUESS MY INPUT IS THAT I THINK.

CONTRIBUTING TO FINISHING, ADDING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, GOING WITH FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO DO, WORKING ON REMOVING SOME OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES FROM THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT THAT WE DIDN'T.

AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION WHERE WE DON'T NOW.

BUT I MEAN, YOU DON'T YOU DON'T MAKE IT HAPPEN IF YOU DON'T BRING IT UP AND YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT IT AND YOU DON'T EVENTUALLY DO IT, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AT THIS MEETING. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD VOTE ON OR OR WE WOULD OR DO ANYTHING ABOUT. YEAH. YEAH.

BUT I MEAN, I THINK KEEPING THOSE THINGS TO THE FOREFRONT, WORKING ON RESTRUCTURING SO THAT THEN WE DO HAVE MORE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, SO, SO THAT'S MY $0.02 WORTH OR WHATEVER I SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF BUILDING THE BRIDGE, WORKING ON THE TRAIL.

AND. DOING THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE JUST BEEN HANGING THERE FOR FOR A LONG TIME. FREEDOM PARK.

LET'S SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS TO FIND OUT.

LIKE. I WAS ORDERED 65,000 FOR DESIGNING THE ACTUAL PROJECT. SO ONE.

SO WE HAVE AN.

PARTY. WHAT WAS THE WHOLE.

PREPARATIONS SO WE CAN GO BACK.

TO WHAT? THANK YOU BOTH.

WITH THE. THAT CAPACITY DEDICATED FORMATION YOUR TOP PRIORITY SOUNDS LIKE PART MOVING FORWARD THAT IN YOUR NEXT PACKAGE TO THE CONCEPT.

AND LOOKING AT THEN DETERMINING WHAT YOUR NEXT LARGE PROJECT IS.

DURING THE.

PROGRESSING PROJECTS TOWARD.

BUT WHAT DONE IS.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE CAN FILL IN WORD ON SOME OF THE ITEMS. OKAY. SO 65,000 IS THE COST OF DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE.

DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE AND THE TRAIL OR WHAT? SO LET ME SEE.

I MIGHT BE ABLE TO.

IT WAS WHAT I READ.

IT WAS DESIGNED THE BRIDGE AND THE TRAIL.

WHAT SHE SAID TO ME FROM FROM CLAUDIA WITH BERT, IT THE YOU KNOW, IT WAS 400,000 FOR THE ENTIRE PARK. YOU REMEMBER THAT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

WE STOPPED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY.

RIGHT. BUT THAT WAS A TOTAL DESIGN.

TOTAL DESIGN. GOTCHA.

TRIAL DESIGN. AND SEE, I'M SITTING HERE AND THINKING WE COULD DO THAT FOR BUT YOU KNOW, SORRY, I'M GETTING STICKER SHOCK.

OH IT'S BUT THE PRICE BUT THE PROJECT BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS 500 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND TO TO BUILD IT AND WHICH IS DOABLE AND THE BRIDGE AND EVERYTHING OUT OF THIS.

SO I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THAT PAGE SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S DIVIDED.

THANK YOU. IT WAS A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT, BUT IT WAS FIVE.

THAT'S A ROUND NUMBERS FOR THIS.

YEAH, WE'RE HERE. 100,000 HERE.

THERE WAS POCKET CHANGE. IT COULD BE WORSE OUTSIDE OR IN THE INSIDE.

ANGLETON THE CITY'S SEWER IS, THEY SAID, 300 MILLION PLUS, BUT I USE THE WORD A THIRD OF A BILLION. IS THAT CORRECT? HOW DID IT GET SO BAD? TIME BECAUSE NOBODY DOES KNOW.

BUT EVERYBODY HAS KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

SO WE COULD HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S PROACTIVE NOW AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY NOW.

HE'S NOW PROACTIVE IN ADDRESSING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT AREN'T PRETTY EVEN OUTLINED IN

[02:10:06]

YOU HAVE FIVE MAJOR ITEMS, 57 MILLION, 65 MILLION.

THOSE ARE ALONE ARE JUST WATER AND SEWER LINE REPLACEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT ALL IN ONE DAY.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER TIME.

YOU BUDGET THROUGH. YOU GET THE OTHER PIECE.

THAT'S A BIG PORTION OF THE NEW SEWER PLANT THAT THEY WANT TO PUT IN ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS ABOUT 66 OR SO LIKE THAT.

AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE.

THE REPLACEMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE OLD WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

IT'S OVER HERE BY TECH STUFF.

STICKER SHOCK ON THAT ONE WAS.

BUT IT'S MADE UP OF MOSTLY ABOUT FIVE THINGS.

THERE'S SOME LIVE STATION IMPROVEMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAD TO HAPPEN.

BUT IT'S NOTHING THAT.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

I FORGOT THIS IS RECORDED, JOHN, SO I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID IT.

I KEEP FORGETTING THERE'S A CAMERA.

SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU.

YOU SEE THAT THERE'S FIVE SECTIONS THAT ARE.

IT'S FOR THE MASTER PLAN THAT ARE SECTIONED OUT.

THIS HIGHLIGHTED ONE BEING THE PASSIVE WHAT WE CALL THE PASSIVE RECREATION ZONE.

AND SO THE THE 65, ABOUT 65,000 THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS FOR THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, THE ENGINEER DRAWINGS THAT WE CAN JUST GO OUT TO BID AFTER THAT.

BUT THE OPINION OF PROBABLE COSTS.

IS LISTED HERE.

YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT SHOWS THE TRAILS AND HOW THEY HOW THEY WORK OR HOW THEY'RE LAID OUT. I THINK IT'S IN THE BROWN, NOT.

WHAT YOU'RE WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY AND MAYBE SUGGESTS IS THAT GOING FOR THE $65,000 I MEAN, AGREEING TO THIS, THEN BY VIRTUE OF DOING THIS, WE HAVE A PLAN THAT THEN WE CAN ATTACK AS WE AS WE WANT TO.

SO IT MAKES SENSE TO GET A ONLY THIS SECTION.

ONLY THIS SECTION.

SO THEN WHAT THAT PLAN WILL WHAT THAT WILL PAY FOR ARE THE ENGINEER DRAWINGS RIGHT, FOR THIS ENTIRE SECTION THAT WE CAN SAY WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO BID FOR CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS WILL BE YOUR 559 HOPEFULLY LOWER, BUT THAT WILL BE FOR.

BUT THE DOCUMENTS WILL BE READY TO GO.

THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PORTION HAS BEEN DONE, THE ENGINEER DRAWINGS, HOW EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT PIECEMEAL.

CORRECT. YEAH.

SO THE BRIDGE, THE TRAIL THAT THERE IS MORE TRAILS, ALL THESE LITTLE.

I LIKE THAT FEELS BETTER.

IT WAS TO DESIGN.

SO CHARLENE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE 65 COMES FROM A PERCENTAGE OF OPINION OF PROBABLE COSTS FOR THE FIRM.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LISTED HERE.

THAT'S THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR.

RIGHT. RIGHT.

BUT IT SUGGESTED.

RIGHT. AND SO I'M GOING TO GO TO ALSO THE ACTIVE RECREATION ZONE.

SO WE'VE WE HAVE PROPOSALS FOR BOTH THE ACTIVE RECREATION ZONE AND JUST THE FIELD ALONE. AND WE CAN ASK FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ON THAT PIECE ALSO TO MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD, THE PROBABLE COST OF JUST THE FIELD ALONE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY SURE I'LL PULL THAT UP BECAUSE I WENT BACK TO THIS AND I LOOKED AT IT AND I COULD NOT FIND THE COST OF JUST THE FIELD ALONE.

BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME AND THEY MAY HAVE USED THE 1.2.

I HAVE IT PULLED UP.

YEAH, I WAS I WAS GOING WITH AN IDEA OF ABOUT 1.1.

1.2. SO THIS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE 65,000, CORRECT? RIGHT. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SECTION.

AND THOSE NUMBERS WERE 2021 OR 2020.

BUT THIS IS A SECTION WE WANT.

SO WHAT THEY USE FOR THE FIELD.

FOR JUST THE FIELD.

AND SO IT IS LISTING THE SURROUNDING AMENITIES THAT THEY ARE SUGGESTING.

IT WOULD BE FROM APPROXIMATELY 1.3.

ABOUT 1.3. ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS JUST THE FIELD ITSELF.

AND THEN COME BACK AND DO THE REST LATER.

GOOD POINT. BECAUSE WHAT THIS HAS IT'S HAS THE BALL FIELD COVERED BATTING CAGES, THE BASEBALL CORE SHADE LARGE PAVILION.

ALL OF THAT IS IN THE ONE NUMBER.

IT'S NOT JUST IT'S JUST NOT THE BASEBALL FIELD.

RIGHT. BUT WHAT THEY JUST WHAT WE HAVE REQUESTED IS THAT UPDATED NUMBER.

IT DOES SAY ANCILLARY.

SO IT PROBABLY DOES INCLUDE DUGOUTS AND THOSE.

MAKES SENSE. SURE.

BUT IF IT HAS ANY STORAGE COMPONENTS, WE CAN ASK THEM, OBVIOUSLY, TO REMOVE THAT AND AGAIN, GET A A A PROPOSAL FOR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT.

ALSO, LIKE YOU SAID.

WELL, WE'RE JUST WE CAN'T DO.

WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE SIX AND A HALF ANYMORE, WOULD BE PROBABLY SEVEN AND A HALF OR MORE,

[02:15:01]

WE PICK THE THINGS THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, JOHN, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT WE SAID WHATEVER ELSE WE THINK WE CAN DO.

AND BUT WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE OUR COMMITMENT TO THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN HANGING OUT THERE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS WITH EVERY SWELL. THE ONLY THING THEY HAD DOWN THERE WAS THE MUNICIPAL POOL AND THAT WE CLOSED THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.

BUT WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION THERE.

BUT IF WE BECAUSE WE CAN'T WE KNOW WE CAN'T DO THE ENTIRETY OF THIS PARK.

AND BUT IF WE CAN PIECEMEAL THE THINGS.

BUT TO ME, THE TRAIL IS RELATIVE TO WHAT EVERYTHING ELSE COST IS FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE.

AND ANY TIME OF DAY I GO OUT THERE, THERE'S PEOPLE ON THE TRAIL, EVEN IN BASEBALL GAMES, THEY'RE WALKING THE TRAILS AND STUFF AND THE BALLFIELD.

LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING, JOHN.

IT'S YOU MAY FROWN ON THIS, BUT WHAT'S YOUR OPINION? WE HAVE A LOT OF UNUSED LAND AT BATES PARK BACK THERE BY THE OLD KINGS FIELD.

BIG BACKSTOP.

WOULD THE SELECT TEAMS USE A FIELD OUT THERE WHERE THE KINGS FIELD IS? IF WE PUT IN A LIKE THE KINGS FIELD, YOU'VE GOT A BIG BACKSTOP.

WHAT IF WE PUT THE SIDE FENCES AND THE OUTFIELD FENCE AND IT WAS BUILT TO WHATEVER THE SPECS ARE FOR THAT AGE GROUP? IS THAT SOMETHING Y'ALL WOULD USE? AND IT WOULD IT WOULD FREE UP THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE WHERE THE ABA, THE BASEBALL ASSOCIATION, YELLOW GUYS.

AND THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER.

IT WOULDN'T FIX THAT. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT POINTS.

SO WHAT I CAME TO THE PARK SPORT ABOUT WAS THE SLATE MOUNTAINS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE BIG FIELD ISSUE.

BAYFIELD ISSUE IS YOUR JERSEY, REALLY? THAT HAVE NOWHERE TO PLAY.

THEY PLAY ALL THEIR HOME GAMES AND BURY ALL THE.

IT'S JUST A PART OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING AND MORE USE AND THERE'S MORE KIDS.

I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST LONG TERM SOLUTION.

THAT IF FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO EXPAND BASE FOR SOFTBALL OR SOMETHING ELSE, MORE KIDS.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT THAT OVER THERE AND SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT IN TEN YEARS YOU CHANGE AND GO BACK OVER HERE AND KNOW IT.

IT'S NOT A PERMANENT FIX.

IT'S INEXPENSIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME CHAIN LINK FENCING.

BUT I LOOK AT IT, WE ALSO SUPPLY RECREATION FOR THAT.

THOSE BALL FIELDS ARE USED BY OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, NON-PLAYERS PEOPLE WHO GO OUT THERE. AND I KNOW JAIME ON THE PARK'S BOARD MENTIONED IT AND OTHERS IF THEY WANT TO GO PLAY BALL. SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO GET IN THERE BECAUSE IT FEELS YOU CAN'T GET YOU GOT TO GO GET WITH THE CITY TO GET IN AND YOU HAVE YOUR FEES.

IF WE HAD A FIELD THAT WE BUILT FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE BUILT IT TO THE SIZE THAT A JUNIOR LEAGUE OR WHATEVER YOU SAID, THESE OTHER ONES WHO COULD USE IT ARE EVEN THE SELECT COULD USE IT. IT WOULD SERVE A BIG MAJORITY.

I'M TRYING TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK.

I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING GOING TO GET RID OF.

WE STILL NEED THIS FIELD, BUT I'D SAY IN THE INTERIM WE COULD BUILD THAT PRETTY INEXPENSIVE. YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT FENCING AND YOU GET IN AND DO WHATEVER BASES YOU NEED, A BASE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT NEED.

BUT IT WOULD BE A PRETTY CHEAP FIX THAT WOULD MAYBE TAKE SOME OF THE DEMAND OFF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET IN TO PLAY BALL AT FREEDOM PARK.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE LITTLE LEAGUE DOESN'T WANT THEM IN THERE BECAUSE THEY MAINTAIN THEM. THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO MESS IT UP.

SO OUR RESIDENTS WANT TO PLAY.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PLAY.

AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT MAY BE AN OPTION.

IF WE BUILD THE RIGHT SIZE, YOUR PEOPLE COULD USE IT FOR PRACTICE, FOR PLAY, THE RESIDENTS COULD USE IT.

IT COULD BE KIND OF AN OPEN FIELD, BUT UNDER THE DOMAIN OF THE PARKS, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO RESERVE IT. WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, LIGHTS ARE WHAT WE SPEND ON THE SOFTBALL.

190,000. YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, YOU COULD BECAUSE UTILITIES ARE THERE, SO IT WOULDN'T BE EXPENSIVE RUNNING POWER TO PUT IN LIGHTS.

BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE FENCING LIKE THAT, ONE IS 1.7 MILLION OR 1.2 WHATEVER YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT. AND IT'S AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULDN'T WANT A CHAIN LINK FENCE LIKE WE HAVE AT BATES IN FREEDOM.

IT NEEDS TO BE FIRST CLASS.

BUT I'M SAYING IN THE INTERIM, IF WE CAN, LET'S SAY 150,000 FOR LIGHTS AND ANOTHER 50,000. 70,000, WHAT CHAIN LINK COST FOR THAT? BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU HAD 200,000 TO GET YOU A BIG FIELD OF THAT SIZE THAT THOSE KIDS COULD USE, THE PUBLIC CAN USE.

IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD BANG FOR THE BUCK, IN MY OPINION.

IT WOULDN'T BE THAT'S REPLACING THAT.

IT'D BE GIVEN US SOMETHING THERE RIGHT AWAY.

THE PLACEHOLDER, I THINK.

MEGAN, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT? SO I DON'T THINK.

IT'S A BAD IDEA. YOU WOULDN'T BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE NEEDS.

AND ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.

[02:20:01]

THERE. I EXPECT IT TO BE THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO EXPECT IT TO BE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S THE WHO EXPECTS THE LEVEL.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IT DEPENDS IF IT'S ADDRESSING SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS. LIKELY THOSE TEAMS BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPECTING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO. SELECT TEAM VIEWS.

SELECTING THIS BALL FIELD ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

LET'S NOT CONFUSE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SELECTIVE PRACTICE ON THE FIELD THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED BY ANALYZING AND RENOVATING THIS AREA.

HOWEVER, I THINK WHAT JOHN WAS SAYING, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THEY MAY BE WANTING TO PLAY AND PRACTICE ON.

YOU CAN EXPECT TO BE PLAYING ON A.

SO WE WOULDN'T BUILD THAT BUILD TO THAT EXPECTATION.

THIS IS KIND OF AN INFILL THING TO DO NOW UNTIL WE CAN BOND, BUT IT WOULD BE USED BY OUR PUBLIC FOREVER.

ALL RIGHT. THE ISSUE THAT MEGAN HAD HAVE TO DEAL WITH OR HER DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T HAVE TEAMS THAT LIKE RIGHT NOW.

THE VOLUNTEERS TAKE CARE OF FREEDOM PARK FIELDS, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER SPORTS ASSOCIATION OUT THERE.

IT'S MORE OF AN OPEN PLAY EXCEPT FOR WHEN IT'S RESERVED FOR SOMEBODY.

SO I WOULD THINK THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO MOW INSIDE THE FIELD WHERE WE DON'T MOW INSIDE THE FIELD AT FREEDOM.

SO IT WILL ADD SOME MAINTENANCE.

BUT AND IT'S JUST AN IDEA.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE IDEA.

IT WAS JUST WHEN I DROVE OUT THERE AND I LOOK AT ALL THIS LAND AND SO WE'VE GOT A BIG OLD BACKSTOP. WE COULD FINISH IT AND WE COULD BRING IN LIGHTS OR NOT, BUT IT WOULD TAKE. THE COMMENTS CAME UP ABOUT FREEDOM PARK, NOT ONLY ABOUT DIFFERENT TEAMS, WHETHER IT'S THE JUNIOR, THE OLDER KIDS, OR WHETHER IT'S SELECT, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

BUT THE PUBLIC WANT TO USE IN SOME OF THE PUBLIC FEELS SHUT OUT OF USING THE FIELDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THOSE ARE PUBLIC PARKS.

EVEN THOUGH THE BASEBALL ASSOCIATION HAS PRIORITY USE OF THEM, WE BUILT THEM WITH CITY MONEY FOR CITY RESIDENTS.

SO I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR A WAY TO KIND OF CREATE SOMETHING CHEAP THAT WILL FULFILL A NEED, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY FOR FIVE YEARS OR IF IT'S FOR A LONG TIME.

WELL, I LIKE IT.

HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS? WHAT WE NEED IS WE NEED A A ESTIMATE FROM BURDICK AS TO WHAT WOULD BE THE DESIGN COST OF A BASEBALL FIELD.

ONLY DUGOUTS, OF COURSE, BUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT WAS WITHIN THAT LINE ITEM, NOT THAT. AND THE BRIDGE, NO DRIVING A TRUCK OVER IT.

BRIDGE FOR WALKING PEOPLE AND A WALKING TRAIL.

WELL, AGAIN, SO YOU DO HAVE THE DESIGN ESTIMATE FOR THE TRAIL, BUT IT IS FOR THE ENTIRE. PASSIVE ZONE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A.

CONSTRUCT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE.

SO AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO.

IT WOULD NOT BE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO BUILD A BRIDGE WHEN IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE FOR EVERYONE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

OKAY. SO YOU COULD LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TRAIL.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS.

OKAY, MAYBE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PAGE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. WE'VE GOT WAY TOO MUCH MONEY FOR WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO EITHER WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LESSER OR WE'RE GOING TO WAIT THREE YEARS BEFORE WE CAN BOND ANYTHING.

SO. WELL, THAT'S THE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ONE OR THE OTHER.

AND AND AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO MULL ON IT, YOU KNOW, COME BACK AGAIN ANOTHER TIME.

I THINK WE NEED HARDER NUMBERS.

SO YOU'RE WORRIED THE 65,000 WE COULD SPEND NOW FOR? BECAUSE THE HARDER NUMBERS, SOME OF IT'S GOING TO COME FROM DESIGN AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BREAKING THIS OUT OF THERE.

IT'S AN APPROXIMATION.

YEAH. WHEN WHEN THEY GET GO DOWN TO THE DESIGN SERVICES, JUST LIKE WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE ENTIRETY OF FREEDOM PARK, THE 400,000 THAT WAS GOING TO NAIL NUMBERS DOWN.

THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD DO HERE.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING AND WE'RE NOT RIGHT.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A MAJORITY OR NOT.

WE'RE FIVE TILL EIGHT AND WE'RE NOT.

SO IT WAS A DISCUSSION FOR GOOD DISCUSSION.

ABSOLUTELY. WHAT WE WILL DO IS WHILE WE HAVE A PROBLEM ACROSS THE FIELDS, WHAT WE'LL DO IS GET A PROPOSAL FOR ACTUAL DESIGN DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE.

GIVE US ONE SEC. YEAH.

YOU GUYS REALLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

EXACTLY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO SUBSEQUENT PAGES, 189, IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY ON AND RECREATION CENTER DIVISION OF REVENUES THAT YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT?

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RIGHT. RIGHT. SO WELL, LET ME JUST NOTE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THIS IS ASSUMING SEVERAL THINGS.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TRANSITION, YOU'RE GOING TO BE INTRODUCED TO THREE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THIS EVENING THAT IF NOT APPROVED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AND REWORK THE BUDGET. SO MEANING THE MEMBERSHIP STRUCTURE, THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND FACILITY MAINTENANCE ARE ADDITIONAL ITEMS. WE HAVE ASSUMED WE'VE TAKEN THE LIBERTY AND WILL BE OKAY WITH THOSE CHANGES.

IF YOU'RE NOT, THAT'S FINE.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND REWORK THE BUDGET SO THESE THOSE CHANGES, THESE FIGURES INCLUDE OR ASSUME THAT THOSE CHANGES WILL TAKE PLACE, CORRECT? THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

SO THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. THE EXPENSE LINE ITEM FOR LIFEGUARD THAT ARE PART TIME WAGES, YOU ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT JUST ON THE REVENUE SIDE, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH. MONTHLY PAYMENT.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY I ALWAYS SAY THAT.

IT'S NOT THE. YES.

AND SO IN ASSUMING A REASONABLE INCREASE IN RETENTION.

AND SO THOSE ARE.

YOU'LL SEE THE NOTES ALSO ON THE SIDE OF WHAT ALL THAT'S TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION.

GOTCHA. OKAY.

SO. OKAY.

SO THE FIRST PAGE THERE.

OKAY. SO THIS IS FOR REC CENTER.

GOT IT. OKAY.

AND WE TRIED TO LABEL THOSE A LITTLE BETTER.

INGLETON RECREATION CENTER.

THAT HELPS. YEAH.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO TELL ME WHO TO GIVE ME WHEN YOU SAY THE EIGHT FULL TIME PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE RECREATION CENTER.

WE HAVE A FACILITY AND I'M SUPERINTENDENT RECREATION ANGLETON.

RECREATION CENTER TOGETHER.

SO REALLY YOU ONLY HAVE THE FACILITY OPERATION SUPERINTENDENT, THE AQUATICS MANAGER THAT ARE LISTED THERE, THE RECREATION AND CUSTOMER SATISFACTION PERSONNEL AND THE FACILITY, THOSE ARE FOR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

SO IT IS NO LONGER 80.

SO IT'S FOUR.

AND THEN. YES, THOSE ARE.

OKAY. NOW, THIS IS SO WE HAVE AN AVERAGE.

SALARY OF 48,500 FOR THOSE FOUR PEOPLE, THEIR VARYING SALARIES.

THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. OKAY.

OBVIOUSLY THE SUPERINTENDENT BASICALLY TEARS DOWN THE SUPERINTENDENT AND POOL MANAGER.

AND. IT IS AT A LOWER PAY.

AND THEN GET CUSTODIANS ACTUALLY AROUND THE SAME.

OKAY. GOTCHA.

OCH, OCH.

AND SO THE PART TIME EARNINGS HAS GONE DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE REDUCTION IN HOURS OF OPERATION.

ALL RIGHT. GOT IT.

OKAY. AND DID SOMEBODY RUN THE FICA CALCULATION? YES, THAT IS OCH.

THE THIRD TIME IS.

OKAY. MY ANSWER.

YEAH. SO ALSO TO JUST TO NOTE, WHEN WE GET TO THE RECREATION PROGRAMING SIDE, THERE IS TWO PROGRAMING INTERN POSITIONS THAT ARE HAVE BEEN ARE NORMALLY WITHIN THE WHOLE BUDGET THAT ARE SHOWN THERE.

SO IT'S 17,000. SO PART OF THAT.

YES. YEAH. WELL THAT WAS PART OF THE REDUCTION.

YEAH. SO WHEN YOU SEE THE REDUCTION, PART OF THAT REDUCTION IS MOVING THAT INTO THE RECREATION SIDE OF THINGS.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS, BUT ALSO TO 17,000 THAT'S BEEN MOVED TO THE OTHER PART TIME STAFF. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON SOME OF THE SUBSEQUENT PAGES IT REFLECTED IN THE RECREATION DIVISION ON PAGE 194.

OKAY. I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE.

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GIVE OUR OPINION ON THOSE OTHER CHANGES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THEM AND THEN COME BACK TO THE BUDGET AFTER WE. KNOW WHAT REDUCTIONS WE'VE DONE AND WHAT CHANGES WE'VE MADE.

JOHN, ARE YOU OKAY WITH US? CHANGING AGENDA ITEMS? YEAH. OKAY.

I AM TRYING TO GET YOU ON THE RIGHT.

TO TWO. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE ARE SEEKING YOUR GUIDANCE ON.

[6. Discussion and possible action on changing the daily hours of operation for the Angleton Recreation Center and the hours of operation for the Angleton Recreation Center’s Natatorium.]

OBVIOUSLY, THE DECISIONS MADE OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE WILL IMPACT THE ULTIMATE WAY THAT WE TACKLE THE BUDGET.

SO SO THE FIRST THING WE'LL LOOK AT IS THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CHANGING THE DAILY HOURS OF OPERATION OF THE INGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTERS.

NATATORIUM. AND SO WITH THAT, SO BACK ON THE LAST MEETING ON FEBRUARY 28TH, WE DID PRESENT SOME DATA AND FINDINGS AND THINGS OF ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD BEEN LOOKING INTO OVER THE THE PAST USAGE OF THE FACILITY.

SO WHEN WE PRESENT THE DATA, IT WAS DERIVED FROM THE ASSESSMENT OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTERS OPERATIONS AND FROM THIS WAS ALL COLLECTED BETWEEN DECEMBER AND FEBRUARY 20 OR FEBRUARY 2022.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE USAGE TRENDS, INCLUDING THE REPORTING, THE VOLUMES, VOLUME OF FACILITY USE ON THE DAYS OF THE WEEK, THE TIME OF DAY, AND THEN ALSO SEASONALLY TO LOOK AT THE TRUE VOLUME OF USAGE ACROSS THE THE FACILITY SO THAT WE CAN SEE DO WE HAVE TIMES WHEN THE FACILITY IS NOT BEING HEAVILY USED BY BOTH MEMBERS AND DAY PASS USERS? DO WE HAVE TIMES WHEN THE NATATORIUM IS NOT BEING HEAVILY USED BY DAY PASS USERS AND MEMBERS AND THEN LOOKING AT THOSE TRENDS? CAN WE THEN MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON.

ADJUSTING HOURS TO BETTER REFLECT THE ACTUAL TRENDS OF USAGE.

AND THEN JUST TO LOOK AT A BIT MORE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY BY MANAGING OUR EXPENSES, BY DOING SO. SO GOING THROUGH THAT, I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THE KEY FINDINGS.

ALSO HAVE SOME CHARTS INCLUDED HERE FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE VISUAL.

AND SO THESE WILL ALL BE HELPFUL AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE'RE GOING AS FAR AS FACILITY HOURS RECOMMENDATIONS AND GOING FROM THERE.

SO I WILL REITERATE THAT THE LANGUAGE AND RECREATION CENTER OPERATING OPERATES VERY HEAVILY ON A SEASONAL BASIS.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MUCH HIGHER USAGE AND MOST ALL AREAS BETWEEN JUNE THROUGH AUGUST REALLY STARTING A LITTLE BIT IN MAY.

SO WE WANTED TO BREAK THIS UP IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND SO SO THE KEY FINDINGS, DAY PASS SALES ON WEEKENDS, THE TIMES THAT THEY'RE PRIMARILY TAKING PLACE ARE BETWEEN ONE AND 4 P.M..

SO WHAT YOU SEE IS YOU SEE MORE MEMBER USAGE IN THE MORNING ON WEEKENDS AND IT MOVED TO DAY PASS SALES IN THE AFTERNOON.

THAT ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT OUR OPENING TIME ON SUNDAY IN GENERAL ACROSS THE YEAR.

NOT REALLY.

THIS DIDN'T REALLY SHOW UP SEASONALLY AS MUCH, BUT WE SEE DAY PASS SALES SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASE AFTER THE 4 P.M.

HOUR OVER THE WEEKENDS.

WE'RE CURRENTLY OPEN TO 8 P.M.

ON SATURDAYS, SO JUST KEEPING A TRACK OF WHEN PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY COMING INTO THE FACILITY, HOW LONG THEY'RE USING.

AND JUST AS A NOTE THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR 59% OF DAY PASS USERS ARE 17 AND YOUNGER.

SO IT'S MOSTLY YOUTH THAT ARE COMING IN, YOUTH THAT ARE COMING IN AND PURCHASING DAY PASSES. SALES ON WEEKDAYS TAKE PLACE PRIMARILY BETWEEN 10 A.M.

AND 6 P.M., SO MOSTLY DURING OUR KEY BUSINESS HOURS.

BUT AFTER 6 P.M., YOU START TO SEE A DECREASE IN UTILIZATION OF DAY PASSES.

AGAIN, SIMILAR TREND, 56% OF THOSE SALES ARE YOUTH 17 AND UNDER.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A SCALE AS FAR AS OUR SEASONAL TRENDS, 51% OF ALL DAY PASS SALES HAPPEN BETWEEN JUNE AND AUGUST.

SO IN 25% OF THE YEAR, WE DO ROUGHLY HALF OF OUR YEAR'S ANNUAL VOLUME AND DAY PASSES.

THE 70 MEMBERSHIP SCANS ON WEEKENDS SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASE AFTER THE 4:00 PM.

SO FIRST WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DAY PASSES.

NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT FACILITY UTILIZATION BY MEMBERS.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SCANS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEMBERS DAY PASS USERS PURCHASING A DAY PASS FOR THAT ONE DAY USE.

SO LIKE DAY PASSES, WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF UTILIZATION AFTER 4 P.M.

ON WEEKENDS FOR MEMBERS FACILITY MEMBERSHIP SCANS ON WEEKDAY SIGNIFICANTLY DROP AFTER THE 7 P.M. HOUR. SO WE SEE MORE FACILITY MEMBERSHIP SCANS A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN DAY PASS HOURS. SO MORE THAN 30%, 36% OF ALL FACILITY MEMBERSHIP SCANS TAKE PLACE BETWEEN JUNE AND AUGUST. THAT PRIMARILY INCREASE IS BASED OFF OF FAMILY UTILIZATION RATE THAT IS HIGHLY CORRELATED WITH THE POOL USAGE.

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SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT MEGAN HAS THERE, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A VISUALIZATIONS, IS THAT THE. JUST SCROLL UP TO THE FIRST ONE.

SO WE HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN THREE DIFFERENT WAYS BECAUSE THE DIFFERENT DAYS IMPACT EACH OTHER. SO THE TOP CHART SHOWS VOLUME BASED OFF HOUR OF THE DAY.

AND SO THIS FIRST PAGE IS LOOKING AT THE FULL SEVEN DAY WEEK.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TREND ACROSS SEVEN DAY A WEEK, YOU CAN SEE THE TRENDS BASED OFF AND THIS IS FACILITY USAGE BASED OFF MEMBERS.

SO YOU'LL SEE SUNDAYS LOWEST, SATURDAYS SECOND LOWEST.

BUT FROM MONDAY TO FRIDAY, IT DECREASES A LITTLE BIT EACH DAY.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR USAGE BY HOUR, WE SEE OUR PEAKS AND OUR VALLEYS BASED OFF JUST GENERAL USAGE. THE DIFFERENT COLORS REPRESENT DIFFERENT MEMBERSHIP GROUPS OR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. SCROLL DOWN THE NEXT ONE.

KYLE, DO WE ACTUALLY OPEN IT FOR? NO, THAT IS THERE ARE SOME ANOMALIES OF PEOPLE CHECKING BEFORE 5 A.M., SO.

YEAH. YEAH. SO NO, WE WE DON'T CURRENTLY.

OKAY. SO THIS IS IF YOU TAKE OUT THE WEEKENDS BECAUSE THE WEEKENDS WILL SKEW THE NUMBERS. SO THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE REFLECTION OF JUST WHAT WEEKDAYS WOULD LOOK LIKE BECAUSE IT MAINLY SKEWS THE, THE TIME OF VISIT.

SO YOU SEE OUR PEAKS AROUND 5 P.M., WHICH WOULD BE EXPECTED ACROSS THE INDUSTRY AND THEN 7 TO 8 A.M.

IN THE MORNING. WE'RE PRETTY LEVEL AND LOW THROUGHOUT THOSE OTHER DAYS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SCANS INTO THE FACILITY BY MEMBERS AND THE NEXT ONE GOING DOWN. THIS IS JUST SATURDAY AND SUNDAY SPECIFICALLY.

YOU CAN SEE THE USAGE TRENDS BY TIME CHANGE DRAMATICALLY, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SEPARATED OUT BETWEEN THE THREE WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT.

BECAUSE IF YOU AVERAGE IT OUT ACROSS THE WEEK, IT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT.

BUT YOU'LL SEE ALMOST THE MAJORITY OF UTILIZATION TAKES PLACE BETWEEN ONE AND 4 P.M. DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY AT 5 P.M.

SIX SEVEN DROPS SUBSTANTIALLY AS FAR AS ACTUAL CHECK INS THERE.

AND THAT'S AGAIN, IMPORTANT TO NOTE, A LOT OF THAT IS ALSO PULLED UP BY POOL USAGE IN THE SUMMER WHEN YOU LOOK GET THIS ACROSS THE YEAR.

AND SO WHEN THE USAGE IS HEAVY, YOU'LL SEE HEAVY POOR USAGE IN THE AFTERNOONS ON SATURDAYS, WHICH PULLS UP OUR USAGE NUMBERS YEAR WIDE TO THE AVERAGE AMOUNT.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH THAT.

SO THAT'S THE BASICS OF THE DATE OR THE MEMBERSHIPS DAYS PASS USAGE.

WE KIND OF HAVE CORRESPONDING CHARTS THAT ARE BROKEN DOWN IN THE SAME WAY FOR A WEEK.

YOU SEE, IT'S KIND OF INVERSE OF WHAT OUR MEMBERSHIP USAGE IS.

OUR HIGHEST USAGE OF DAY PASSES OVER THE WEEKENDS, OUR LOWER USAGE DURING THE WEEKDAYS. SO MORE HEAVY DAY PASS USAGE ON THE WEEKENDS, MORE IN THE INVERSE OF THE MEMBERSHIP USAGE, SAME KIND OF THING.

YOU LOOK AT THE TREND, YOU SEE THAT AROUND 1:00 PM, YOU START TO SEE THAT'S WHERE INCREASE IS REALLY HEAVILY ON WHEN PURCHASES HAPPEN.

THEN AROUND THE 6 P.M.

HOUR THEY'VE DROPPED OFF SUBSTANTIALLY.

THEN BY 7 P.M. THEY REALLY DROP OFF GOING DOWN IF YOU TAKE OUT THE WEEKENDS.

IT NORMALIZES JUST A LITTLE BIT.

LET'S GO DOWN TO THE NEXT ONE.

AS FAR AS TIME OF DAY, IT'S A LITTLE MORE FLAT, BUT STILL KIND OF STICKS BETWEEN THAT 12:00 PM AND 6 P.M.

TIME FRAME. SO THAT REMAINS KIND OF CONSISTENT ACROSS THE WEEK.

SAME TYPE OF THING. YOU SEE PRETTY FLAT DAY PASS USAGE ACROSS THE WEEK FOR, LIKE I SAID, DAY PAST USES. SO JUST GETTING AN IDEA FOR OUR USAGE AND THEN GOING DOWN THE LAST WHERE WE ISOLATE JUST THE WEEKENDS, YOU START TO SEE IT FOLLOWS THAT SIMILAR TREND AS MEMBERS TIME FRAME IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, SO YOU PEAK HIGHLY AT 1:00 PM, YOU START TO REALLY DROP OFF AFTER THE 4 P.M.

HOUR. SO YOU HAVE THAT FOUR HOUR USAGE THAT'S REALLY, REALLY HEAVY.

AND AGAIN, THAT JUST KIND OF SHOWS THE DIFFERENCE, THE USAGE ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

AND OBVIOUSLY SATURDAY HAS A HIGHER UTILIZATION THAN SUNDAY TYPICALLY.

AND PART OF THAT JUST HAS TO DO WITH THE LONGER OPENING HOURS ON SUNDAY.

SO JUST WANT TO PROVIDE YOU THOSE TWO VIEWS BECAUSE THAT REPRESENTS OUR IF YOU AGGREGATE ACROSS THE YEAR ROUND WHAT OUR ACTUAL FACILITY UTILIZATION LOOKS LIKE ON A DAY BY DAY BASIS, WHEN YOU ISOLATE THE WEEKENDS, WHEN YOU ISOLATE THE WEEKDAYS, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A WHOLE WEEK PERSPECTIVE, WHICH REALLY GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF VOLUME OF USAGE OUTSIDE OF THOSE KEY VOLUMES, LIKE IN DAY PASS, YOU'RE SEEING RELATIVELY LOW USAGE.

AND THAT'S WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT IS THE IS THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT WE'RE OPERATING PAST THESE PEAK USAGE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT BOTH MEMBERS AND DAY PASS USERS, IS THAT REALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE FACILITY ARE? AND THEN YOU ALSO LOOK AT FROM THE STANDPOINT IS, YES, THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE CHECKING IN AT LATER TIMES, LIKE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE BUYING DAY PASSES AFTER 6 P.M.

WITH THAT SMALL OF A PERCENTAGE.

IF WE MADE ANY KIND OF CHANGES TO OURS, WOULD THEY WOULD WE LOSE THOSE CUSTOMERS OR WOULD THEY JUST ADJUST TO THE FACILITY HOURS AND COME SLIGHTLY EARLIER TO DO SO? YOU KNOW, WITH SUCH A LOW PERCENTAGE, IT'S PROBABLY THE GUESS WOULD BE IT'D BE SOMEBODY WITH A KIND OF AN ANOMALY OF A PERSONAL SCHEDULE OR IT'S JUST BASED OFF CONVENIENCE OF WHEN THEY HAPPEN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE FACILITY THAT THAT DAY.

SO JUST A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE ACTUAL CONSISTENT USAGE TRENDS.

THIS DATA WAS TAKEN OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD.

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SO WE'LL JUMP INTO THE NATATORIUM STUFF AS WELL BECAUSE THIS IS THE FACILITY AS THE WHOLE. YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE TRENDS REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE NATATORIUM.

NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T CURRENTLY SEE LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY CHECKS INTO THE RECREATION CENTER WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO THE GYM OR NATATORIUM OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU WILL SEE THE PEAKS AND USAGE BASED OFF DAY PASS AND FACILITY USAGE IS SIMILAR TO THE PEAKS AND USAGE FOR THE NATATORIUM AS WELL.

BUT THE NATATORIUM DOES SHOW A MUCH MORE HEAVY SEASONAL SHIFT AND I'LL SHOW YOU HOW YOU BREAK THAT DOWN IN JUST THE SECOND.

ARE THE NATATORIUM ONES ON THEIR OR IS THAT JUST THOSE TWO? OKAY. THAT WAS PROBABLY ALL RIGHT.

NO, THAT'S OKAY. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM.

BUT THERE'S. SO WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SEASONS.

WE'VE BROKEN UP HERE JUST FOR THAT'S IN THE DATA.

WE HAVE NON-PEAK SEASONS AND WE HAVE OUR SUMMER SEASON.

SO I'M CONSIDERING PEAK JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST AND ALSO INCLUDING PART OF MARCHING PART OF DECEMBER AND PEAK BECAUSE WE DO SEE HEAVILY INCREASED USAGE DURING SPRING BREAK AND DURING WINTER BREAK FOR THE NATATORIUM USAGE.

IF YOU IF YOU TAKE OUT THE MARCH SPRING BREAK AND TAKE OUT THE WINTER BREAK, THE USAGE TRENDS IN MARCH AND DECEMBER LOOK LIKE OUR NON-PEAK HOURS.

IT'S JUST WE HAD THOSE ONE WEEK ANOMALIES THAT PULLED THE AVERAGE UP FOR THOSE MONTHS.

SO NON PEAK NATATORIUM FACILITY USAGE AVERAGES LESS THAN FIVE SWIMMERS PER HOUR ON WEEKDAY MORNINGS.

THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS IS WEEKDAYS BETWEEN EIGHT AND TEN.

SO THAT SOMEWHAT CORRESPONDS WITH WATER EXERCISE CLASSES, SO RELATIVELY LOW USAGE THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR BASICALLY.

HERE'S SOME OF IT. AND THEN NON-PEAK HOURS WHEN WE THEN LOOK BETWEEN.

12 P.M. AND 4 P.M.. SO LOOKING AT MIDDAY WE'RE AVERAGING LESS THAN FIVE SWIMMERS PER HOUR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TUESDAYS AT 1 P.M., AND I THINK THAT DOES CORRESPOND HOUR AN TUESDAY AT 2 P.M., WHICH I THINK DOES CORRESPOND WITH A PREEXISTING CLASS THAT WAS OFFERED IN THE AFTERNOONS.

SO NON PEAK NATATORIUM FACILITY USAGE WHEN WE LOOK AT LATE IN THE DAY IS AT 4 TO 7.

WE'RE ALSO AVERAGING LESS THAN FIVE SWIMMERS PER HOUR AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS BETWEEN FOUR HOUR, 4 P.M.

AND 6 P.M.. SO THE MAIN POINT OF THAT IS OUTSIDE OF A FEW KEY HOURS.

WE'RE AVERAGING LESS THAN FIVE SWIMMERS PER HOUR IN OUR NATATORIUM OVER THE COURSE OF OVER THE COURSE OF THE NON-PEAK SEASON.

WHAT THAT TELLS ME, OBVIOUSLY OUR POOL CAN HANDLE MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE AT A TIME WITH SOME POSSIBLE SCHEDULE ACCOMMODATIONS OR SCHEDULE ADJUSTMENTS.

WHILE IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SERVE EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WANTS TO USE THE NATATORIUM BECAUSE WE CAN'T MEET EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE.

SOME OF THOSE THINGS COULD BE COMPRESSED WHERE MAYBE WE HAVE TEN PEOPLE IN AN HOUR INSTEAD OF FIVE PEOPLE IN 2 HOURS.

IF WE LOOK AT MAKING ADJUSTMENTS.

SO IF YOU LOOK UP HERE, WHAT SHE HAS UP IS SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER UTILIZATION, ANYTHING THAT'S IN RED IS LESS THAN FIVE.

ANYTHING IN YELLOW IS 5 TO 9.

ANYTHING THAT'S GREEN IS AVERAGING MORE THAN TEN.

SO THAT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHERE YOUR PEAKS AND VALLEYS ARE AND THEN HOW IT SHIFTS FROM SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER TO NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, DECEMBER AGAIN.

YOU SEE THAT LARGE SPIKE BECAUSE WINTER BREAK WE HAVE A A LARGE UTILIZATION ONCE THE SCHOOL LETS OUT OF OF DURING THAT BREAK.

SO GOING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WEEKDAY HOURS FOR NON PEAK, SO WEEKEND HOURS FOR NON PEAK.

WE DO SEE AN AVERAGE OF MORE THAN TEN SWIMMERS ON SUNDAYS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF TWO AND FIVE AND THEN ON SATURDAYS.

I'M SORRY.

I MAY HAVE ACCIDENTALLY LEFT SATURDAY OFF THERE, BUT WE DO SAY IF WE JUST ISOLATE THE WEEKENDS LIKE WE DID WITH THE OTHER ONES, YOU DO SEE THAT WE STILL DO PEAK AT MORE THAN TEN SWIMMERS IN THE AFTERNOONS, EVEN IN NON PEAK SEASON.

SO SATURDAY AND SUNDAY OUR UTILIZATION OF THE POOL IN THE AFTERNOONS REMAINS GOOD WHENEVER WE'RE NOT NORMAL SCHEDULE, BUT DURING THE WEEKDAYS IT REMAINS FAIRLY LOW.

AND THEN DURING PEAK SEASON, BASICALLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW HOURS BETWEEN 8 A.M.

AND 7 P.M. THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, WE DO AVERAGE MORE THAN TEN SWIMMERS AN HOUR PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE SCHEDULE.

SO YOU HAVE THE ONE THAT JUST HAS THE SUMMER MONTHS UP THERE.

UM. SO YEAH THAT'S WHAT JUST BE THE SUMMER HERE SO IF YOU LOOK YOU HAVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW LOWER UTILIZATIONS AT NINE AND 10 A.M.

YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH EXCLUSIVELY AVERAGING OVER TEN AND THEN SOMETIMES GOING UP TO 50 OR MORE AVERAGING PER HOUR.

SO WITH THAT, THE SUMMER SCHEDULE SEEMS TO BE MEETING THE USAGE NEEDS OF AND GOOD USE OF

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AND SO.

AND THEN LOOKING AT THE.

ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS BETWEEN 11 AND SEVEN.

SO WE'RE STILL SEEING HIGH UTILIZATION ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AS WELL.

SO I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF NUMBERS.

THIS ONE OUT AGAIN. YES, LOU, IT'S FINE.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL TRY TO SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO IT.

SO I KNOW IT'S ABOUT THE NUMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT.

SO I WON'T BELABOR THAT ANYMORE, BUT DID WANT TO DEMONSTRATE JUST LOOKING AT THIS THIS TREND PERIOD, OUR UTILIZATION PERIOD AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND GO FORWARD ON DISCUSSING WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE NATATORIUM LOOKING AT THAT AS INCLUDED AS THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, BUT A SEPARATE AMENITY AND WHEN IT OPERATES CURRENTLY WE OPERATE ESSENTIALLY WITH WITH A SMALL WINDOW THERE ALMOST THE SAME SCHEDULE YEAR ROUND, BUT UTILIZATION REMAINS LOW OUTSIDE OF THOSE PEAK SEASONS.

SO THE GENERAL RECOMMENDATION OF WHERE THERE MAY BE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IN REVENUE ARE NOT REVENUE AND CONTROLLING EXPENSES RELATED TO OPERATIONS.

AS FAR AS FACILITY HOURS, IT WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF SATURDAY HOURS THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY YEAR. SO INSTEAD OF CLOSING AT NORMAL, CLOSING TIME ON SATURDAY IS REDUCING THAT CLOSING TIME AND CHANGING OPERATIONS TO 9 TO 6.

AND SO MAKING THE CLOSING TIME ON SATURDAYS EARLIER.

AND I THINK THAT'S SUPPORTED BY THE DATA THAT'S PRESENTED.

AND THEN THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE DETERMINING AN NATATORIUM SCHEDULE THAT REDUCES DAILY SCHEDULING ON WEEKDAYS BY 4 HOURS OR MORE THROUGHOUT THE NON-PEAK SEASON.

AND THOSE ARE THE TWO BASIC RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT SCHEDULING WOULD BEST FIT.

BUT INSTEAD OF OPERATING CONTINUOUSLY FROM ESSENTIALLY OPEN TO CLOSE WITH A SMALL BREAK IN, THERE IS LOOK AT A A DAYTIME SESSION AND AN AFTERNOON EVENING SESSION WITH A EXTENDED CLOSURE IN BETWEEN WHEN WE HAVE LOW VOLUME BETWEEN ON THE WEEKDAYS.

SO ALL OF THAT AND I'LL LEAVE THAT OPEN NOW FOR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS AND GO FROM THERE.

SO WITH THE FACILITY BEING CLOSED AT 6:00 PM ON SATURDAYS, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE NATATORIUM AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THOSE? BECAUSE YOU CAN RESERVE IT FOR PRIVATE PARTIES AND I THINK THAT WAS LATER.

HOW DOES THAT INTERACT TOGETHER? YEAH. SO WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS PRIVATE POOL PARTIES IN TODAY'S THINGS, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE WE ARE.

OUR POOL SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW IS SOMEWHAT DICTATED ITS CLOSING TIME BASED OFF WHEN PRIVATE POOL PARTIES ARE AVAILABLE.

SO THERE'S STILL WOULD BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PRIVATE PARTIES IF WE SO CHOSE AFTER THAT 6 P.M. BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIVATE AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMPETING WITH ADDITIONAL OPERATIONS.

IT'S TRULY A PRIVATE A POOL PARTY.

AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, AS FAR AS IMPACTING OPERATIONS GOES, JUST BY LOOKING AT THE DATA AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE NOT SEEING HEAVILY UTILIZATION.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY, SOMEBODY CHECKS IN AT 4 P.M., THEY COULD STAY FOR 3 HOURS AND THINGS.

BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS MOST PEOPLE ARE THERE FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF, 2 HOURS AT MOST ON AVERAGE IS WHAT YOU WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY SEE.

SO WHILE I'M SURE LIKE SOME PEOPLE LIKE THAT, THERE MAY BE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD THAT WOULD IMPACT MORE THAN OTHERS.

AND MOST OF THE VOLUME OF USAGE WE SEE LATE IS BY DAY PASS USERS OF TEENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND AND EVEN THAT IS SEEN WE SEE A DROPOFF AFTER 4 P.M.

SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS.

YEAH, I'M SORRY. YEAH, THAT'S HELPFUL.

THANKS. IS YOUR PROPOSAL JUST TO DO THIS DURING OFF PEAK OR YOU WANT TO.

SO FOR THE OPERATIONAL HOURS FOR SATURDAY AND WE COULD DISCUSS DOING IT EITHER WAY.

BUT FOR CONTINUITY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CHANGE FACILITY OPERATING HOURS MIDSTREAM, EVEN WITH SEASONAL SHIFTS.

AND SO WHATEVER WE WOULD CHANGE TO AS FAR AS THE COMMUNICATION AND CONTINUITY WITH THE ACTUAL USER, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE ABSORBED WELL IF IT WAS CONSISTENT THAT WAY.

YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE CONFUSED BY THE CHANGE OF SEASON, CHANGE OF OPERATION HOURS.

YEAH, BUT WHEN YOU GO BUT SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY OF THE NATATORIUM, ALMOST ALL POOL AND AQUATIC FACILITIES ARE TRADITIONALLY OPERATED OFF A SEASONAL SCHEDULE. SO PEOPLE ARE MORE HABITUALLY UNDERSTANDING WHEN LIKE AN NATATORIUM OR POOL SCHEDULE CHANGES THAN WHEN A WHOLE FACILITY SCHEDULE CHANGES.

AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, AS FAR AS POSSIBLE CHANGES IN GENERAL HOURS OF OPERATION, THAT IS THE.

CLEAR IT'S TIME THAT WE HAVE LOW UTILIZATION WHILE IT'S ONLY 2 HOURS A DAY OF A REDUCTION OVER THE COURSE OF YEAR, YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT OVER 52 WEEKS AND THE COST OF STAFFING

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I DON'T THINK YOU'D WANT TO GO ANY EARLIER ON A WEEKDAY FOR CLOSING OR NECESSARILY CHANGE OPENING HOURS TO EXTEND COULD THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

SO SATURDAYS IS REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS SOME SOME WIGGLE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE MINIMALLY IMPACT THE MAJORITY OF OUR USERS.

SO. SO, KYLE, YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGE DURING THE WEEKDAY.

FIVE TILL IS IT.

FIVE TILL NINE. FIVE, FIVE TILL NINE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

YEP. OKAY. YEAH.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH MEETING THE THE FOR WORK USERS, THE DAYTIME USERS AND ALSO THE AFTER DINNER CROWD.

OKAY. IF YOU SQUEEZE THAT IN EITHER DIRECTION, YOU ALIENATE MAJOR GROUPS.

SORRY, I'M NOT, I'M NOT FINDING THE PAGE SOME ASK.

YEAH. SO SATURDAY WOULD BE 9 TO 6 AND IT WAS EIGHT TO WHAT.

IT'S CURRENTLY 9 TO 8.

CORRECT. OR IS IT.

IT'S A SORRY. YEAH. IT'S A IT'S EIGHT.

I THINK IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE.

8 TO 9. OKAY.

YEAH. I MAY HAVE TRANSPOSED THOSE.

I'M SORRY. YEAH. SO OKAY SO THEN 9 TO 6 AND SIX WOULD ACTUALLY SAVE US 3 HOURS, NOT 2 HOURS. OKAY. AND THEN SUNDAY.

SUNDAY REMAINS THE SAME.

WE'RE CURRENTLY FROM 1 TO 6, CORRECT? 1 TO 6. YEAH. YOU CAN'T REALLY REDUCE THAT MUCH MORE IN THAT.

AND WE SEE HOW IT GOES ON SUNDAY AND WE SEE HEAVY UTILIZATION ON SUNDAY FOR BOTH THE POOL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND THROUGH THE FACILITY BECAUSE IT IS A COMPRESSED SCHEDULE.

OKAY. IS IT HEAVY, HEAVY UTILIZATION AS FAR AS CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE AIR? IT'S IT'S ONE OF OUR LIGHTEST ATTENDED DAYS.

BUT WHEN DURING POOL SEASON, IT IS PRETTY WELL UTILIZED OVER THE WEEKEND.

SO IT'S A HEAVILY UTILIZED DAY PASS SALES DAY.

I APPRECIATE THE DATA COLLECTION.

THAT'S A LOGICAL CHANGE TO ME.

I MEAN, BASED ON EVERYBODY NEEDING TO CUT AND SAVE AND LOOK AND MAXIMIZE.

WHAT KIND OF FEE CHANGES DO YOU RECOMMEND? THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM.

I THINK THOSE LOOK GOOD, TOO.

SO DO YOU HAVE LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THIS, DO YOU EVALUATE IT PER SQUARE FOOT OR WHAT? LIKE, SAY, ASSUME THAT THAT TOY IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE VERSUS THE GM OR THE AH THE WEIGHT ROOM.

BUT. AND I'M SURE THAT EDITORIAL BRINGS THE MAJORITY OF OUR PEOPLE.

THAT'S A DRAW. BUT HOW DO YOU PUT IT? I KNOW IT'S NOT A FOR PROFIT.

IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.

BUT DO YOU PUT A VALUE ON THAT TO DETERMINE? WHAT DO YOU TRY TO IF LIKE THE WHITE ROOM, THERE'S A LOT OF WHITE ROOMS OUT NOW, THEY CAN GO 24 HOURS A DAY.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WERE CHARGING ENOUGH OR.

BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A POINT WHERE IT WOULD BE CHEAPER FOR THEM TO GO TO A PRIVATE PLACE OR LIKE THE GYM.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE FEES, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTIES, YOU CAN HAVE PARTIES AFTER HOURS.

THAT'S A LUXURY TO ME AND NOT A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO SOMEBODY MUST HAVE A PARTY.

THEY SHOULD PAY A PREMIUM PREMIUM TO GET YOU THERE AFTER HOURS.

IT SHOULD. IN THE PAST, I FELT LIKE WE SUBSIDIZED PARTIES WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND WE CAN. AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN FUTURE LOOK AT.

IS THE FEES FOR PRIVATE POOL PARTIES THE WAY I WOULD.

THIS IS KIND OF GETTING OFF OF HERE A LITTLE BIT.

BUT IF I HAD TO CHOOSE HOW TO SET UP PRIVATE POOL PARTIES LIKE JUST FROM SCRATCH IS I WOULD FACTOR IN THE COST OF ALL STAFFING, ALL OVERHEAD COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND MAKE THAT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT MARGIN BECAUSE IT IS A SPECIALIZED SERVICE.

IT'S NOT A AND IT SERVES VERY UNIQUE GROUPS AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

SO IT IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR REVENUE GENERATION, BUT THE FEES COLLECTED FOR THAT WOULD DIRECTLY OFFSET THE COST OF OUR STAFF.

SO WE COULD KIND OF LOOK AT THAT SEPARATE FROM OUR NORMAL OPERATING FUND.

THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL, OF COURSE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU COULD LOOK AT YOUR YOUR PRIVATE POOL PARTY VOLUME AND YOU CAN ESTIMATE IT AND FACTOR IN THOSE COSTS.

BUT IF YOU DON'T MEET THAT NUMBER OF POOL PARTIES, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL EXPENSE. OR IF YOU DON'T MANAGE THAT, YOU MAY OVERSPEND FOR THAT.

SO IT'S JUST CREATING THAT TO WHERE THOSE THOSE FEES ARE TIED TO THE EXPENSE OF COST OR THE COST OF THAT. AND THAT'S ALL FACTORED IN.

SO IT COMES OUT NET POSITIVE.

AND THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT IS A A LUXURY SERVICE THAT WE HAPPEN TO BE ABLE TO OFFER. AND IT IS A GOOD WAY OF MAKING ADDITIONAL MONEY AND ESPECIALLY DOING IT PRIVATELY BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE NOT ENCROACHING ON MEMBERS AND OTHER DAY PASS USERS AND THINGS.

BUT IT SHOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, LIKE PRICED IN A WAY TO COVER ITS COST SO THAT CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT THE FEE STRUCTURE AND THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT.

BUT YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE NATATORIUM IS GOING TO BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE BECAUSE IT REQUIRES MULTIPLE STAFF TO OPERATE SAFELY.

AND IT ALSO REQUIRES THE THE CHEMICAL, THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF THE FACILITY OR THE

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SO I WAS I WAS TRYING TO GET A PER HEAD CALCULATION WHAT IT COST IF WE HAD A.

80,000 PEOPLE A YEAR USE THAT FACILITY OVER WHAT IT COST TO TO OPERATE AND FUND FACILITY, WHAT IT COST TO HEAD. BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU MAY YOU HAVE THOSE SLOW DAYS, YOU'RE LOSING MONEY. EVERYBODY WALKS IN THE DOOR.

AND THEN I WAS GOING TO SAY AS A MEASURABLE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR FUTURE LIKE TRACKING IS LIKE AVERAGE COST PER VISIT.

THAT IS SOMETHING IT'S PRETTY EASY TO CALCULATE. WE JUST LOOK AT THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL OPERATING EXPENSE OF THE FACILITY, DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF USERS.

AND YOU COULD HAVE A TARGET TO REDUCE THE COST PER VISIT AS FAR AS THE EXPENSE.

AND THAT'S ACCOMPLISHED IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS, WHETHER YOU REDUCE YOUR EXPENSES, INCREASE YOUR REVENUE INPUT, INCREASE YOUR UTILIZATION.

BUT VOLUME OF USAGE IS ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THAT.

SO IF WE'RE AVERAGING SOMEBODY COMING LIKE 1.2 TIMES PER WEEK, IF WE COULD GET THEM COMING UP TO 2.1 TIMES PER WEEK, WE SEE A GREATER PER USER USAGE.

SO THERE ARE SOME OTHER METRICS THAT ONCE WE GET KIND OF PAST THE BASICS, HELP TO REALLY UNDERSTAND UTILIZATION AND THEN LIKE WHAT THE COST OF A VISIT ACTUALLY REALLY IS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WHEN WE LOOK AT DAY PAST VISITS, WE LOOK AT MEMBERSHIP VISITS LIKE WHAT IS THE TRUE VALUE OF A VISIT TO THE REC CENTER BASED OFF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET AND OUR OUR PRICE IS REFLECTING THAT.

SO, SO ARE WE PLANNING TO CLOSE THE NATATORIUM CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME DURING NON SUMMER MONTHS. SO YEAH I HEARD THAT BUT I WAS GAINING.

I COULD QUITE YEAH.

SO BASED OFF THE DATA THAT WE HAVE, IT WOULD BE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF DAILY HOURS DURING WEEKDAYS AND ALSO CORRESPONDING WITH THE CHANGES ON SATURDAYS FOR NON-PEAK HOURS.

THE EXCEPTIONS, I WOULD SAY, WOULD BE DURING SPRING BREAK AND DURING WINTER BREAK WHEN SCHOOL'S OUT OF SESSION IS OPERATING THAT MORE LIKE WE WOULD OPERATE SUMMER HOURS BECAUSE WE SEE THAT TYPE OF USAGE ON THOSE HOLIDAY WEEKS.

BUT OUTSIDE OF THOSE BASICALLY TWO WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR, THE REST OF THE NON SUMMER, THE NON PEAK OPERATIONAL HOURS TO REDUCE THOSE DAILY THE NUMBER OF HOURS IT'S OPERATING.

AND THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE COST FOR LIFEGUARDING.

IT'LL ULTIMATELY REDUCE THE COST OF CHEMICALS OR THE RELATIVE COST OF CHEMICALS BECAUSE IT WILL BE A LOWER BATHER OR A LOWER OPERATION OF THE POOL.

SO THE MORE THE MORE MISTING, THE MORE EVAPORATION AND STUFF THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS RUNNING, THE MORE CHEMICALS AND THINGS.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MEASURABLE WITHOUT MEASURABLE THAT WILL BE BECAUSE COST OF CHEMICALS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT BY NOT OPERATING LIKE ALL THE FEATURES OF THE POOL, AS FREQUENTLY YOU WILL SEE SOME REDUCTION IN ITEMS THAT YOU ADD TO THE POOL.

I WAS TRYING TO TO SCAN YOUR MEMO AND I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE.

SO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO OPERATE? WILL YOU GIVE UP AN EDITORIAL? YEAH. THE SPECIFIC.

YEAH, SORRY. YEAH, SORRY.

YEAH. SO, YEAH, SORRY.

THE SPECIFICS WHEN SAY I SAID REDUCE 4 HOURS OR MORE, BUT IN GENERAL IS THAT WE HAVE A AN AM POOL SCHEDULE THAT STARTS EARLY ENOUGH WITH THE OPERATIONS AGAIN NOT TO ALIENATE THE EARLY BEFORE WORK PERSON BUT ALSO CAPTURES MOST OF THE MORNING TRAFFIC AND THEN A PM POOL SCHEDULE.

SO AH POSSIBLY LIKE A428429 WHATEVER WE DETERMINE THAT TO BE WITH A SUBSTANTIAL BREAK IN BETWEEN. SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE YET.

WELL, THAT'S WE'RE LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION, THE NUMBERS ARE BASED OFF REDUCING IT BY A MINIMUM OF 4 HOURS.

AND YOU'RE STILL PLANNING TO OPEN THE FACILITY AT FIVE.

THE THE POOL ARE THE ACTUAL FACILITY.

SO IN GENERAL SORRY.

IN GENERAL, MY RECOMMENDATION JUST FROM PERSONAL PREFERENCE IS THAT THE POOL WOULD OPEN 30 MINUTES LATER THAN THE GENERAL FACILITY BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE TO PREP AND PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE LOCKER ROOM.

PEOPLE DON'T USUALLY RUN STRAIGHT TO THE POOL WHEN THE FACILITY OPEN SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE LITTLE KIDS THERE AND THEN CLOSING AT LEAST AN HOUR OR 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE CLOSURE OF THE FACILITY TO ALLOW FOR ANY CLOSING MAINTENANCE AND PEOPLE TO GET OUT THAT ARE WET AND THINGS. SO WHEN DOES THE POOL OPEN? WHAT IS THE POOL SCHEDULE? I'M CURRENTLY AT SIX, SIX, SIX, SO OPENS AN HOUR LATER.

OKAY. SO AND CURRENTLY IT CLOSES FROM 10 TO 12.

THERE'S A BREAK IN THERE DURING THE NON PEAK SEASON WHERE WE JUST HAVE A DEAD ZONE BETWEEN 10 TO 12 OPENS BACK UP AT 12 AND STAYS UP UNTIL SEVEN.

SO THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.

YES, YES. TO ME YOU GUYS PUT IN, THAT'S KIND OF YOUR SPECIALTY.

AM I MY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD CHANGE WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, EXCEPT ARE WE CHARGING ENOUGH THAT YOU SAID THAT'S THE NEXT THING? BUT TO ME, EVERYTHING THAT YOU DISPLAYED LOOKS LIKE WE'VE BEEN NEEDING A C FOR A LONG TIME. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE THE OVERALL EQUATION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO KIND

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OBVIOUSLY, CONTROLLING EXPENSES IS ONE SIDE OF THE EQUATION AND INCREASING BUSINESS VOLUMES THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION.

SO THIS IS JUST PART OF THE BASED OFF USAGE TRENDS, BASED OFF CONSISTENT DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR ALL OF OUR MAJOR USERS.

WHAT COULD WE REASONABLY ADJUST WITH MINIMAL IMPACT TO OUR OUR USER BASE? NOW, THERE WILL BE SOME PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY IMPACTED WITH ANY CHANGES, BUT MINIMIZING THAT AND MEASURING THAT TO MAKE SURE IT'S OPERATIONALLY EFFECTIVE FOR OUR NEEDS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T RECOMMEND REALLY CHANGING ANYTHING FOR THE PEAK MONTHS, BECAUSE OUR PEAK MONTHS ARE UTILIZED HEAVILY AND THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR REVENUE COMES IN FROM THE YEAR AS WELL. SO DON'T MESS WITH WHAT'S WORKING.

THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENTLY OPERATING ON A DIFFERENT SATURDAY SCHEDULE. AND I DO APOLOGIZE, WE OPEN AT 545.

BUT THE TRENDS THIS IS WHY I'VE PULLED THIS UP.

WE DON'T SEE THOSE NUMBERS REFLECTED IN OUR HOURLY COUNT UNTIL SIX.

SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, SO SO THE PLAN ON THE NATATORIUM IS TO, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHEN THE USAGE ARE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ALL THIS GREAT DATA.

WE'RE ALMOST TO PEAK SEASON NOW, SO WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.

I WOULD YEAH. WITH, WITH WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE YEAR I WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING AS FAR AS OPERATIONAL SCHEDULE UNTIL FOR THE FOR THE POOL HOURS.

RIGHT. UNTIL GOING INTO SEPTEMBER.

OKAY. GOTCHA.

AND THAT WAY YOU CAN GET SIX ON SATURDAYS.

YEAH. WE COULD DISCUSS ON WHEN THAT THAT WOULD BE BEST TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

IT HONESTLY, I MEAN JUST FROM A STANDPOINT OF COMMUNICATIONS AND PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING AND THIS IS JUST A KIND OF MORE OPINION WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS TOO MUCH IS DOING THAT AT THE SAME TIME SO PROBABLY HOLDING THAT TILL SEPTEMBER TWO BECAUSE THAT'S TRYING TO REDUCE HOURS RIGHT BEFORE PEAK SEASON.

THAT COULD BE CHALLENGING TO COMMUNICATE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN USED TO AT LEAST LEADING UP TO THIS YEAR, BECAUSE IT DOES TAPER AFTER SEPTEMBER OR AFTER AUGUST.

SO, OKAY. WELL, IT GETS TIME TO SORT OF START GETTING THE WORD EDUCATE, RIGHT, KIND OF LEADING INTO IT.

SO AND SO. YEAH, WITH THAT AND THERE'S KIND OF TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS.

THERE'S THERE SHOULD BE SAVINGS FROM LIFEGUARD STAFF JUST NOT OPERATING AS MUCH AND THAT SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS AND THERE'S WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS PURE SAVINGS OR WE CAN LOOK AT WE HAVE RELATIVELY LOW VOLUME OF STAFFING AND CUSTOMER SERVICE AND CUSTODIAL RELATIVE TO OUR NEEDS AND SOME OF THAT BEING RETAINED IN REALLOCATED TO PROVIDING INCREASED SERVICE DEMAND, WHICH MAY SUPPORT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH OPERATIONAL CHANGES TO INCREASE VOLUME AS WELL.

RIGHT. BECAUSE I'VE HAD NUMEROUS PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT HAVE SPOKEN VERY UNFAVORABLY ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE LOCKER ROOMS. AND THIS IS WHERE THESE ARE MY CHURCH FRIENDS, THEY DON'T TALK BADLY ABOUT.

THEY JUST SAID, WE JUST DON'T USE IT ANYMORE.

WE JUST LEAVE THEIR IN OUR TOWEL AND GO HOME AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT.

AND THIS IS WHERE WHEN WE GET BACK TO THE BUDGET PORTION OF THE DISCUSSION, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY LOOK AT STAFFING, IS THIS A PURE SAVINGS BASED OFF OF REDUCED OPERATIONAL HOURS IN AUDITORIUM OR ARE WE REALLOCATING SOME OF THAT SAVINGS OF NOT OPERATING THE NATATORIUM TO PROVIDE MORE CONSISTENT SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE REST OF OUR OPERATION, WHERE WE DO HAVE MORE CONSISTENT VOLUME THROUGHOUT THE DAY? WELL, AND THE OTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF QUALITY CONTROL THAT SOMEBODY LOOKS AT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS AND THAT IT HAPPENS DAILY. I THINK WHEN WE TALKED TO HIM ON THE PARKS BOARD, HE AND MAY EVEN AFTER HOURS. BUT I THINK HE'S BEEN TALKING WITH STUART AND FINDING GIVING THEM SOME GUIDELINES WHAT TO FOLLOW.

DIDN'T WE AT ONE POINT HAVE AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT, SO TO SPEAK, OF THE REC CENTER WHERE THEY CAME IN AND TOLD US DEFICIENCIES, IMPROVEMENTS OR WE'VE NEVER HAD AN OUTSIDE SOURCE TO THAT? I DON'T THINK WE EVER HAVE BECAUSE YOU'RE THE CLOSEST WE HAD TO AN OUTSIDE SOURCE LOOKING AT IT.

AND TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE MAY WANT BECAUSE THEN THESE THINGS THAT YOUR FRIEND SAW MAY NOT HAPPEN IF SOMEBODY WALKED IN, WELL, THIS IS A PROBLEM.

YOU NEED TO FIX IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING THERE AREN'T SEEING IT AND IT'S NOT ANYTHING WRONG WITH THEM.

I COULD WALK THROUGH A HOUSE ANY STAGE AND I CAN POINT OUT THINGS.

TEN OTHER PEOPLE WON'T SEE IT.

SO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHOSE EYES KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR.

LIKE KYLE'S, HE SEES THE THINGS AND YOUR FRIENDS SEE THE THINGS.

SO WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THIS GUY IS NOT GOING TO BE WITH US MUCH LONGER.

SO WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO ARE COMPANY THAT OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE HIM COME IN AND DO A REVIEW. SO YEAH, THERE'S THERE ARE SERVICES THAT WILL DO INSPECTION REPORTS AND FACILITY CONDITIONS REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S USUALLY SUBSTANTIAL COSTS.

LIKE WHEN I'VE WORKED WITH THOSE BEFORE, IT'S MAYBE ROLLED UP INTO LIKE A CITY PACKAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR ALL FACILITIES AND THINGS BECAUSE IT DOES GET FAIRLY HEFTY AND THEN THEY ALWAYS PROVIDE A REMEDIATION.

GHOSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.

BUT WITH THAT, I MEAN, I THINK JUST MOVING SO JUST FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, NOT RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEM, MOVING TO SETTING UP OUR OWN, OUR INTERNAL AUDITING PROCESS AND THEN THE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM FOR MAINTAINING THAT.

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SO TO BE A FAIR MEASUREMENT.

AND SO A LOT OF THAT IS WHAT'S BEING WORKED ON MORE OF JUST IN HOW WE SUPERVISE AND HOW WE HOLD STAFF ACCOUNTABLE.

AND THAT'S SOME OF THE STAFFING ARE THE THE STAFFING DIRECTIVES WITH SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT KIND OF THE OLD ADAGE, IF IT'S NOT MEASURED, IT'S NOT WHATEVER THE PHRASE IS, BUT YOU WANT TO GET RESULTS, YOU NEED TO PROVIDE MEASUREMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR IT.

SO YEAH.

SO AS FAR AS THE ACTION ITEMS GO.

SO SPECIFIC SCHEDULES THAT YOU CAN YOU CAN IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

CHRIS, YOU ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT IF YOU PREFER STAFF, ASSESS WHAT THAT NEEDS TO BE.

YOU CAN PUT THAT IN YOUR MOTION.

IF YOU ARE CLEAR ON WHAT YOU THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION, PLEASE DO NOTE THAT. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE MAKING THE MOTION AS IT RELATES TO THE NATATORIUM POOL HOURS, WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT THAT WOULD BE BASED OFF OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE COLLECTED. WELL, I WOULD I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION AND I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT. WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE HOURS AND THAT WE DEFER TO STAFF'S PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND DATA GATHERED IN DETERMINING THAT.

AND IF WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, CLOSING ON AT 6:00 ON SATURDAYS AND REDUCING THE NATATORIUM HOURS BY 4 HOURS A DAY IN NON-PEAK.

TIMES. AND SO ONE ONE OTHER CLARIFICATION.

WE DID HAVE NOTED IN THE RECOMMENDATION 9 TO 6, I BELIEVE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S IN LINE WITH THE BUDGETARY BECAUSE THAT WILL BE CHANGING THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR OPENING.

YEAH. SO THAT IS WHERE I BELIEVE I HAD IT TRANSPOSED.

SO. SO STILL OPEN AT EIGHT.

I WOULD YEAH. I WOULD KEEP THE OPENING SO THEN, SO THEN WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR.

JUST TRANSPOSE THE NUMBERS ON THAT ONE.

SO YEAH. 8 TO 6 DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE INTO THE NEXT ONE.

THIS ONE HAS A LOT LESS DATA POINTS, SO I WON'T HAVE TO READ QUITE AS MANY LITTLE

[7. Discussion and possible action on changes to the pricing structure for facility memberships and day passes for the Angleton Recreation Center.]

SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON CHANGES OF THE PRICING STRUCTURE, FACILITY MEMBERSHIP AND DAY PASSES FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.

SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE FEBRUARY 28TH ALC MEETING, WE PRESENTED PRESENTED THE CURRENT MEMBERSHIP PACKAGE OPTIONS FOR FACILITY MEMBERSHIPS AS WELL AS THE CURRENT OPTIONS FOR THE SINGLE USE DAY PASS.

THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER WAS HIGHLIGHTED.

THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER CURRENTLY HAS MORE THAN 30 DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF FACILITY MEMBERSHIP OFFERINGS FOR THE ENROLLMENT AT THE FACILITY.

IN ADDITION, THERE ARE CURRENTLY SEVEN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF SINGLE USE DAY PASSES THAT VARY BASED OFF AGE AND FAMILY STATUS.

SO WHEN ANALYZING THESE TRENDS AND LOOKING AT THE CATEGORIES.

OR IS OUR THE MAJORITY OF OUR FACILITY ARE HANGING ON SECOND.

OKAY. I'M SORRY.

LET ME JUST READ IT STRAIGHT UP. SO WHEN ANALYZING THE MEMBERSHIP ENROLLMENT TRENDS, STAFF IDENTIFY THAT THE MINORITY OF THE CATEGORIES OF THE ARE MADE UP THE MAJORITY OF ALL ENROLLMENTS FOR FACILITY MEMBERSHIPS.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS ONLY A FEW OF OUR CATEGORIES OF MEMBERSHIP WERE ALMOST ALL OF OUR MEMBERSHIP. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL CATEGORIES AND COMBINATIONS THAT WERE BASICALLY NOT BEING UTILIZED AT A HEAVY BASIS.

AND SO WHEN LOOKING AT IT, THEY'RE THEY'RE CAUSING MORE TROUBLE TO KEEP UP WITH AND MORE CONFUSION FOR OUR POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS THAN MAYBE WE WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH.

AND SO SAME THING WITH DAY PASSES MOST ALL A DAY PASS UTILIZATION.

WE SAID WE HAVE SEVEN COMBINATIONS, 38% WERE ADULT, 52% WERE CHILD, AND THEN THE REST WERE A FEW UNDER THERE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE QUARTERLY AND SEMIANNUAL MEMBERSHIP OPTIONS, THESE ARE REALLY NOT USED HEAVILY.

THERE'S A VERY, VERY LOW PERCENTAGE OF THESE BEING UTILIZED AT ALL.

AND SO ALMOST ALL OF OUR MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES FALL INTO THE MONTHLY OR ANNUAL CATEGORY. YOUTH MEMBERSHIP, ACTIVE MILITARY MEMBERSHIP.

FIRST RESPONDER MEMBERSHIP MAKE UP ONLY 2.52% OF ALL MEMBERSHIP.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN APPROACH THAT HERE IN A MINUTE OR IN A MINUTE.

ROUGHLY 40%, 46% OF SENIOR MEMBERSHIPS FALL UNDER THE SILVERSNEAKERS SILVER AND FIT PROGRAM, WHILE THE REMAINING 53 PAY FOR TRADITIONAL MEMBERSHIP.

THIS MAKES UP GREATER THAN 30% OF OUR TOTAL MEMBERSHIP.

SO WE HAVE A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF OVERALL SENIOR UTILIZATION AND.

UM. AND BASICALLY IF WE LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT MEMBERSHIP CATEGORY TYPES THERE,

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SO ALL OF OUR MEMBERSHIP TYPES, WHETHER IT'S SENIOR, FIRST RESPONDER, THINGS LIKE THAT, COULD FALL INTO A FAMILY OR INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP CATEGORY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, SO THIS IS A LISTING OF OUR OUR DAY PASS, OUR DAY RATES, OUR DAY USE RATES. SO THIS HAS THE SEVEN OPTIONS FOR THAT BASED OFF EITHER INDIVIDUAL.

THERE'S ALSO SPECTATOR SENIOR ACTIVE MILITARY ADULT CHILDREN.

SO IT VARIES WIDELY.

AND IF YOU COMPARE THAT RATE COMPARED TO THE ACTUAL MEMBERSHIP RATE, IT DOES NOT ENCOURAGE MEMBERSHIP UTILIZATION VERSUS DAY PASS UTILIZATION BECAUSE THE DAY PASS UTILIZATION OFTEN WILL BE CHEAPER IN THE LONG RUN THAN ACTUALLY BECOMING A MEMBER OF THE FACILITY AND THAT IN THE INDUSTRY WOULD REALLY BE OPPOSITE OF THAT.

MEMBERSHIP PACKAGES. THIS DEMONSTRATES MOST OF OUR MEMBERSHIP PACKAGES AND THE COMBINATIONS OF THAT. SO WE HAVE MONTHLY, QUARTERLY SEMIANNUAL AND ANNUAL ACROSS INDIVIDUAL FAMILY, ADDITIONAL PERSON, SENIOR INDIVIDUAL, SENIOR FAMILY, YOUTH, ACTIVE MILITARY FIRST RESPONDER, ACTIVE MILITARY, FIRST RESPONDER FAMILY.

WE ALSO HAVE STAFF MEMBERSHIPS AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR SILVER CATEGORIES, SILVER SNEAKERS, SILVER AND FIT AND THEN SOON TO BE RENEW ACTIVE AS WELL.

THOSE ARE LOOKED AT SEPARATELY BECAUSE THEY'RE A SUBSIDIZED MEMBERSHIP THROUGH PARTNERSHIP. BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT AND YOU PRESENT THAT TO A CUSTOMER, THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR THEM TO YOU KNOW, IT ALSO MAKES IT DIFFICULT SOMETIMES FOR STAFF TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO PEOPLE.

SO WE WANT TO SIMPLIFY THAT.

AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT WE MOVE TO ONLY HAVING INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY MEMBERSHIPS AS OUR PURCHASED MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES AND ONLY MOVING TO HAVING A MONTHLY DRAFT SYSTEM.

SO IF YOU DO A MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP THAT IS DONE THROUGH AUTOMATIC DRAFT AND THEN AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP, THIS ONE HAS.

AND SO AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED OPTIONS.

AND THIS ONE HERE, WE ACTUALLY HAD A RANGE OF FEES.

SO THE PROPOSED IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRICING, THINK OF IT IN A RANGE BECAUSE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKING AT THE STRATEGY.

IF WE REMAIN THE SAME WITH OUR MEMBERSHIP FEES, IF WE REDUCE OUR MEMBERSHIP FEES SLIGHTLY AND USE THAT AS AN INCREASED VOLUME ENHANCEMENT TO WHERE WE WE CAPITALIZE ON THE DRAFT, WE CAPITALIZE ON ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS, WE HAVE BETTER RETENTION.

SO WE FOCUS ON VOLUME BY POSSIBLY REDUCING FEES SLIGHTLY OR IF IT'S TIME TO MAKE A FEE INCREASE NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DONE A FEE INCREASE.

AND I WAS JUST LOOKING BACK AND I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE FEE SCHEDULE AND I CAN'T SEE THAT IT WAS UPDATED SINCE IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED.

SO AS FAR AS AN ACTUAL FEE INCREASE, SO SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FEES, THE FEES ARE FLEXIBLE AS WELL.

GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE THAT FEES WOULD BE EASY TO STAFF DIGEST AND NOT LIKE 37, 25, SOMETHING LIKE A 35 OR 40, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SILVERSNEAKERS SILVER AND THOSE ARE FREE ENROLLMENT.

SO THOSE ARE CHARGED DIFFERENTLY THROUGH PARTNERSHIP.

AND THEN INSTEAD OF OPERATING WITH SENIOR MEMBERSHIP OR MILITARY MEMBERSHIP IS THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR IT BASED OFF EITHER AGE OR QUALIFICATION A CERTAIN DISCOUNT.

SO A SENIOR WOULD THEN REGISTER FOR AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP AND RECEIVE THE CORRESPONDING DISCOUNT FOR BEING A SENIOR.

SO THEY STILL PAY A CHEAPER RATE, BUT IT JUST WHEN SOMEBODY COMES UP, DO YOU WANT A MEMBERSHIP FOR YOURSELF OR DO YOU WANT A MEMBERSHIP FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY? THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION.

THEN, BASED OFF THEIR AGE STATUS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE CAN THEN CHOOSE TO APPLY A DISCOUNT THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR JUST CLEANS IT UP BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE FOUR OPTIONS INSTEAD OF 30 PLUS.

SO AND SINGLE USE DAY PASS.

SINCE A BODY IS A BODY AS FAR AS FACILITY USAGE IS CONCERNED, IT'S CONSOLIDATING OUR DAY PASS PRICE TO JUST A SINGLE USE DAY PASS PRICE BASED OFF OF INDIVIDUAL UTILIZATION.

AND SO THAT WILL DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

IT WILL GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF WHO ACTUALLY IS IN OUR BUILDING, BECAUSE A FAMILY COULD BE TWO, IT COULD BE SIX, IT COULD BE HOWEVER MANY LIKE THAT.

BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS IT'S THE NUMBER OF BODIES USE UTILIZATION, UTILIZING IT.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL DATA OF FAMILY DAY PASS PURCHASES, IT'S PURCHASED AT A VERY LOW RATE. AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES IF THEY PURCHASE FAMILY DAY PASSES TWICE, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PAY FOR A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP.

SO INSTEAD OF DOING MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBER OR DAY PASSES JUST TO INDIVIDUAL DAY PASSES AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO UTILIZE MULTIPLE TIMES TO MOVE INTO MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES. SO THAT IS THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE DID WANT TO GET INPUT ON ALL OF THAT AND THE ACTUAL DIRECTION OF WHERE PRICING WOULD GO.

AND SO THE GENERAL RECOMMENDATION IS WE RECOMMEND A BLK DISCUSS CHANGES TO PRICING STRUCTURE, FACILITY MEMBERSHIPS AND DAY PASSES FOR THE INGLETON RECREATION CENTER.

AND JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS SUGGESTIONS, THOSE PRICES ARE JUST ON THERE.

BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE THE STRATEGY OF DECREASING TO INCREASE POSSIBLE VOLUME, INCREASING TO COVER ADDITIONAL COST AND EXPENSES BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN INFLATION AND INCREASED COSTS BUT HAVEN'T DONE CORRESPONDING FEE UPDATES.

AND THEN JUST AS ONE OTHER NOTE, THE MONTHLY THE MONTHLY AMOUNT, WHATEVER THE DRAFT AMOUNT IS, IS IF SOMEBODY COMMITTED TO A FULL YEAR MEMBERSHIP, IT'S JUST A TIMES TEN FACTOR.

SO IF THEY SIGN UP FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR, THEY'D ESSENTIALLY JUST NOT HAVE TO PAY TWO MONTHS OF MEMBERSHIP. SO IT'D BE A TEN MONTH PAYMENT FOR A 12 MONTH.

SO THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE BENEFITS OF SAVING FOR DOING AN ANNUAL.

I LIKE IT. YEAH, I LOOKED AT THIS AND I THOUGHT, OH, MY GOSH, THAT'S SO MUCH BETTER.

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BUT THE ACCOUNTANT WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THAT.

YEAH. AND THOSE SO THAT JUST MIGHT BE IN THOSE DISCOUNT AMOUNTS ARE UP FOR TERMINATION TO BUY CURRENTLY IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT LIKE SO A A SENIOR INDIVIDUAL PAYS THE SAME AS A ACTIVE MILITARY FIRST RESPONDER INDIVIDUAL.

SO WE'VE BEEN CONSISTENT WITH OUR DISCOUNTED RATES.

SO WE WOULD JUST WANT TO DETERMINE LIKE WHAT THAT DISCOUNT WOULD REFLECT TO, TO.

AND SO THAT IS VARIABLE AS WELL.

SO WHEREVER WE WE DETERMINE THE PRICING SHOULD BE ON THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE FAMILY AND THEN WE WOULD DETERMINE WHERE THE DISCOUNT WOULD BE.

IF WE WANTED ALL OF THE PRICING TO BE SLIGHTLY INCREASED, WE WOULD DETERMINE WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY RATE WOULD BE FIRST AND THEN SUBTRACT OUT THE DISCOUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CORRESPONDING CATEGORY THAT WE'RE MOVING FROM WOULD ALSO.

IT'D BE EITHER IF WE DETERMINED TO BE A SLIGHT INCREASE WOULD ALSO BE A SLIGHT INCREASE. DO YOU THINK A DOLLAR INCREASE ON A DAY PASS WILL BE ENOUGH? YEAH. WILL BE ENOUGH TO MAKE SOMEBODY THINK TWICE ABOUT MAYBE GOING AHEAD AND GETTING.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS THE SMALL INCREMENTAL INCREASES ACROSS THE BOARD TO ME ARE TOO SMALL. I MEAN, INFLATION ALONE WITH THIS PRICE, WE'RE STILL LOSING MONEY WHAT WE WERE A YEAR AGO. SO DAY PAST THE CONSIDERATION WOULD BE AND THIS IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE DIFFICULT. AND YOU LOOK AT WHO THE DAY PASS USERS ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCH HIGHLY UTILIZED BY YOUTH THAT ARE NOT ACCOMPANIED BY FAMILIES OR PARENTS.

I WOULD NOT WANT TO CREATE A DAY PASS FEE THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE OF YOUTH TO BEING ABLE TO USE THE RECREATION CENTER ON A DAILY BASIS.

NOW, IDEALLY, WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO TO CONVERT OVER TO MEMBERSHIP, BUT DEPENDING ON PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT, ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A FAMILY PERSPECTIVE AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE OUR OUR FAMILY MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES ARE LEAST CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND SO WE SEE A HUGE INCREASE IN FAMILY MEMBERSHIPS MAY, JUNE, JULY, HUGE DROP OF IN SEPTEMBER. THEN THE CYCLE REPEATS.

SO OUR BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT AND USAGE IS WITH THE FAMILY CATEGORY. SO IF YOU HAVE LOOKING AT FROM A STRATEGY STANDPOINT, IF YOU'RE COMING IN AND YOU WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE BOUGHT A FAMILY DAY PASS, BUT NOW YOU'RE PAYING FOR FIVE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEN SAY IF YOU COME TWICE IN A MONTH, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE THAN THAT THAN GO TO MEMBERSHIP.

AND SO IT IT REALLY MAKES IT MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE THE FAMILY TO START TO ENGAGE IN MEMBERSHIP INSTEAD OF FAMILY DAY PASSES WHERE YOU HAVE VARIABLES OF TWO PEOPLE, UP TO SIX PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS AND ALSO VERIFICATION OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE TRULY FAMILY MEMBERS.

THAT'S THAT'S ALSO A CHALLENGE WITH DAY PASSES.

I WOULD THINK THAT YOU COULD USE THE SAME LOGIC WITH THE KIDS AS WELL ONCE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WEEK.

I MEAN, AS THE FRONT DESK GETS TO KNOW THE KIDS, IF THEY'RE THERE SEVEN TIMES, THEY CAN BUY IT. YOU CAN.

BUT WHEN YOU START, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT DATE MONTHLY AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT DRAFT, THEY CAN'T ENTER INTO A DRAFT AGREEMENT IF THEY'RE UNDER 18.

OH, THEY CAN'T JUST COME IN AND PAY YOU.

IT HAS TO BE DRAFTED FOR THE MONTHLY.

THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WOULD PREFER TO GO TO.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE STANDARD ACROSS THIS INDUSTRY IS IT REDUCES THE A 12 MONTH MEMBERSHIP ON A MONTHLY DRAFT, IT'LL REDUCE THE TRANSACTION VOLUME TO ONE AS OPPOSED TO 12 TRANSACTIONS, WHICH REDUCES THE BURDEN OF THE CUSTOMER AND THE STAFF PEOPLE.

THAT FREES THEM UP FROM A GREAT DECREASED NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS AND POTENTIAL ERRORS THAT HAPPEN DURING TRANSACTIONS.

IT'S BETTER FOR US IF SOMEBODY YOU BOUGHT I'M WITH YOU.

I WAS JUST THINKING OF KIDS.

YEAH. GOTCHA. YEAH.

THE KID SITUATION IS UNIQUE, AND THAT'S THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR ME THAN PAST THE ENVIRONMENTS I WORKED IN BECAUSE THE DATABASE UTILIZATION, SO MUCH OF IT IS KIDS THAT ARE JUST FREE DURING THE DAY AND YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A GOOD PLACE TO GO AND YOU WANT TO LIMIT THOSE BARRIERS.

AND SO THE $5 IS AN INCREASE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ADULT, IT'S AN INCREASE ON THE THOSE OTHER CATEGORIES.

THE SPECTATOR ONE IS UNIQUE TOO, BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN SAY THEY'RE A SPECTATOR THAN GO PARTICIPATE. AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY GREAT TO HAVE A SPECTATOR DAY PASS.

THERE'S STILL A BODY IN THE BUILDING. WE'RE SO RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM.

BUT AGAIN, THAT DAY PASS RATE, LIKE ALL OF THE RATES ON THERE, ARE REALLY UP FOR RECOMMENDATION OR SUGGESTION BASED OFF THE DIRECTION.

WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT VOLUME AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT STRATEGY, WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT REVENUE AND WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT OVERALL ENGAGEMENT, INCREASING UTILIZATION OF THE FACILITY, LIKE WHAT'S THE BEST MIX OF ACCOMMODATIONS TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT OUTPUT? WELL, I LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE HERE AND BEING THAT I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT YOUR INITIAL PROPOSED. THE RATE CHANGES.

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CAN WE HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE A SECOND OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A SECOND BEFORE.

OH. WELL, MAYBE I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOVEMENT AND WE CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSING.

MAINLY BECAUSE, ELLEN, I AM FOLLOWING UP ON YOUR YOUR VERY ASTUTE SECOND SENTENCE, FIRST TIME YOU SPOKE. IF WE LOOK AT AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP AND WE GO FROM 35 TO 20.

IF SOMEBODY IS OVER 60, IT'S LESS THAN THEY'RE CURRENTLY PAYING AND YOU LOSE AND IT'S EASIER TO DO IT.

YOU SAVE MONEY BY PAYING IT MONTHLY INSTEAD OF DOING THE THE TOTAL.

IT WOULD BE TO 75 FOR THE ANNUAL OR IT'D BE 20 TIMES 12, $240.

YEAH. SO IF WE WENT TO THE 35 AND SO THESE ARE THESE NUMBERS ARE FLEXIBLE FOR THE MONTHLY. I WOULD PROBABLY SHIFT THAT NOT TO A $15 DISCOUNT TO A DOLLAR DISCOUNT.

THAT WAY IT REMAINS THE SENIORS AND THOSE OTHER SPECIAL CATEGORIES REALLY DON'T SEE AN INCREASE. THE INCREASE WILL WILL TAKE PLACE PRIMARILY AT THE THE THE THE STANDARD USER THAT DOESN'T FIT INTO A SPECIAL CATEGORY WHICH TYPICALLY AREN'T AS COST STRAPPED.

AND THEN THE SAME THING I WOULD DO WITH THE THE ANNUAL MAYBE A 60 OR SOMETHING.

YEAH. JUST ADJUST IT SO THAT WE'RE EITHER AT OR JUST ABOVE WHERE WE WERE PRIOR TO.

I LIKE THAT BETTER BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE.

YEAH. YEAH, THERE IS A, WE HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THIS DOCUMENT.

THERE'S ONE THAT HAD RANGES ON THERE AND I THINK PART OF IT GOT, THEY GOT, I GOT, YOU KNOW, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SO THEN I WILL, WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ACCEPT THE PROPOSED MEMBERSHIP OPTIONS WITH THE APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE ELIGIBLE MEMBERSHIP DISCOUNTS FOR THE SENIORS, WHATEVER THAT CATEGORY IS.

IS THAT YOUR MOTION? THAT IS MY AMENDED MOTION.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO SECOND BECAUSE IN DISCUSSION WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S $10 AND $60.

RIGHT. YEAH.

SO IF WE LOOK AT THE SENIOR INDIVIDUAL AND THE ACTIVE MILITARY INDIVIDUAL, IT GOES FROM 305 TO 240.

SO WE WOULD WANT THAT TO I MEAN.

IT STARTS TO GET OLD THEN TO GET TO TO 90.

IF THEY TAKE THE 60 OFF IT'S 290 ANNUAL.

YEAH. DIVIDE THAT BY 12.

IT'S 25.

16. IT'S ALMOST A WASH.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THE $10 FOR THE MONTHLY AND THE ANNUAL OF 60? OKAY. YEAH.

AND WITH THAT TOO, JUST TO KIND OF WE COULD MAYBE SAY 65, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S STILL INCENTIVIZING THEM TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE ONE TRANSACTION, RIGHT? CORRECT. I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU WANT TO GET TO.

RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S SO YOU'RE ALREADY SEEING A SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT BECAUSE OF THE SAVINGS FROM BASICALLY DOING A TEN X INSTEAD OF A 12 X FOR THE COST DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE MONTHLY AND THE ANNUAL.

AND SO THAT IS JUST SOMETHING TO.

JUST TO KEEP IN MIND WITH THAT.

SO AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, AS WE TALK ABOUT RATE CHANGES AND DIFFERENT PRICING STRATEGIES IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COST OF STAFFING, THE COST OF EQUIPMENT, THE COST OF OPERATING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE HAS BEEN NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE OR ADJUSTMENTS IN RATES TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE MAKE SURE IT'S REFLECTIVE OF THAT AS WELL AS WE KIND OF DISCUSS IT BECAUSE IT IS ANY TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS A SENSITIVE NATURE. BUT PART OF OUR FISCAL STEWARDSHIP OF BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THIS WELL IS BEING ABLE TO OPERATE WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE COST AND CONTEXT.

AND I STILL THINK THAT KEEPS OUR RATES LOW COMPARABLY TO SIMILAR OPERATIONS, BUT DOES PUT US MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE TRUE DEMANDS ARE.

AND THAT COMBINED WITH REDUCING HOURS OF OPERATION.

I LIKE KEEPING IT. I AGREE WITH THE BRINGING.

INVIDIOUS COUNT FOR THE MONTHLY DOWN TO TEN SENIORS.

I KIND OF HOLD THE 75.

THAT CERTAINLY INCENTIVIZES THEM TO GO AHEAD AND AND AND DO IT.

IS THE ANNUAL. YEAH.

TO ME, THE 75, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE SEAT WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL IS GOING FROM CURRENTLY 305 TO 350, 45,000, $45 AND THEN FAMILY HOME FROM 425 TO $575 IF YOU DID ANYTHING LESS THAN 75 ON THE DISCOUNT.

YOU'RE GONNA BE. HE'S TAKING IT TO THE SENIOR.

WELL, HERE'S HERE'S HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

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RIGHT? SO THEY'RE GOING TO PAY $25 A MONTH.

THEY REMAIN THE SAME. TEN MONTHS, THAT'S GOING TO BE 250.

BUT IF THEY DO FOR THE I MEAN, FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

BUT IF YOU IF THEY SAY DO THE YEAR AND YOU'RE TAKING $75 OFF OF THE 350, THEN THEY'RE PAYING 275.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM INCREASES IN THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS AND. HIGHER INCREASE.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE SENIORS ARE GOING TO GET A DOUBLE DISCOUNT.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE TEN X DISCOUNT, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL OFFER TO COMPENSATE FOR THE AGE DIFFERENCES.

JUST AS ANOTHER KIND OF IMPORTANT NOTE TO CONSIDER, ABOUT HALF OUR SENIOR MEMBERSHIPS ARE THOSE SILVER CATEGORY MEMBERSHIPS, AND THERE'S ONLY, I THINK A LESS THAN 3% OF THAT IS IN THE ACTIVE MILITARY FIRST RESPONDER MEMBERSHIPS.

SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND, WHILE IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SAVINGS FOR THOSE GROUPS, IT IS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE LEAST DIRECTLY IMPACTED BECAUSE MOST OF THEIR MEMBERSHIPS ARE FALLING INTO DIFFERENT TYPES OF MEMBERSHIPS.

MOST OF THEM ARE IN THE SILVER OR WHATEVER.

AND THERE ARE ABOUT HALF OF THOSE SENIORS THAT ARE WITHIN THE WITHIN THE TRADITIONAL MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES.

AND JUST AS A KIND OF ANECDOTAL NOTE, I GUESS I'VE BEEN WORKING AT THE REC CENTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND SITTING UP THERE AND STUFF A LOT MORE HELP AND STAFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S SURPRISING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT COME UP FRUSTRATED THAT WE DO NOT DO A MONTHLY DRAFT BECAUSE EVERY TIME THEY COME IN THEY'RE HAVING TO GET STOPPED, DO TRANSACTIONS, RUN OUT TO THEIR CAR, GET THEIR WALLET AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE IS ACTUALLY A LOT OF VOCAL FRUSTRATION BECAUSE THEY WERE USED TO DOING THE DRAFT BEFORE SHIFTING TO CIVIC REC.

THERE WAS INITIAL PROBLEMS WITH THE DRAFTS THAT DISCONTINUED THAT.

SO THERE IS A LOT OF A PRETTY LARGE AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS THAT ARE PROVIDING FEEDBACK THAT THEY'RE THEY GET FRUSTRATED WITH HOW FREQUENTLY THEY HAVE TO DO TRANSACTIONS.

SO IT'S NOT COLLECTED SPECIFICALLY IN THE DATA, BUT ANECDOTALLY IT'S HEARD PRETTY FREQUENTLY. MY ONLY LAST COMMENT THAT I HAVE ON IS ON THE FAMILY PACKAGE DAY.

I UNDERSTAND SIMPLIFYING THE GAME, BUT I ALSO SEE THE IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE.

IT MIGHT NOT COME UP MAYBE ONCE A MONTH OR TWICE A MONTH.

SO FROM $18 TO 30.

SO THEY WE GO, YEAH, $18 FOR IF THEY JUST CAME ONE DAY IT WOULD BE 18 CURRENTLY.

AND IF THEY, THEY HAD A FAMILY OF SIX THAT WOULD BE 30 IF ON THE NEW IF WE DID $5.

SO EITHER WAY, IF THEY CAME A SECOND OR A THIRD TIME, YOU WOULD BE BUMPING UP AGAINST THE COST OF MEMBERSHIP. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT THEIR ABILITY TO TO GO IN THAT.

AND JUST ANOTHER NOTE WITH THE MONTHLY DRAFT, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BE A MEMBER FOR JUST ONE MONTH, THEY CAN STILL START AND STOP A MEMBERSHIP.

IT JUST INVOLVES A CANCELATION.

SO EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GO CONTINUOUSLY WITH A MONTHLY DRAFT, THEY STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO LIKE A ONE MONTH TO MONTH OR THREE MONTH.

SO IF YOU SAY, HEY, GO GET A ONE MONTH MEMBERSHIP, YOU CAN DO THAT AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT THE CANCELATION TODAY.

SO AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, THAT EXPIRES.

SO IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON BRINGING YOUR KIDS BACK HERE TWO OR THREE TIMES, WHAT'S GOING TO SET YOU THAT UP FOR THAT ONE MONTH? THAT WAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STOP HERE AND DO A DAY PASS LINE.

SO THERE IS SOME CONVENIENCE FACTOR IN THERE.

BUT FROM A RISK MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, TOO, AND A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE, THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN SOMETIMES ON WHO IS ACTUALLY WITH THE FAMILY.

DO THOSE PEOPLE HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO BRING OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS TO THE POOL? IT MAY SEEM INNOCENT AT THE TIME, BUT IF SOMETHING DIDN'T HAPPEN, LIKE, OH YEAH, THIS IS MY KID, IT TURNS OUT IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF VERIFICATION.

CHALLENGES. ONCE WE GET TO MEMBERSHIP, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMITMENT TO VERIFICATION. SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY OF CONSIDERING BEYOND JUST THE REVENUE SIDE OF THINGS IS LIKE WHO OR WHO IS ACTUALLY IN THE BUILDING.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WERE TO BRING FOUR KIDS IN THERE, WE'RE GOING TO SIGN JOHN UP FOR A FAMILY DAY PASS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY LEGER, ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WITH YOU.

AND SO WE REALLY JUST HAVE RECORD OF YOU BEING THERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE YOUR WORD FOR WHO'S WITH YOU AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO NOW THAT DOES PREVENT A POSSIBLE INCONVENIENCE FOR THE MEMBER.

BUT AGAIN, WE CAN WORK WITH OUR STAFF AND HOW THEY PRESENT THAT.

IS THIS A TRAINING ISSUE WHERE WE'RE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, NOW WE EXPLAIN THE BENEFITS AND IT'S NOT JUST LIKE YOU CAN DO THIS OR THIS, IT'S WHAT'S THE BENEFITS OF THOSE THINGS BUT ALSO SEE THE INCREASED COST.

YEAH, I'VE ALSO, I'VE, I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE FAMILY AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. THAT'S KIND OF THE STICKY ONE BECAUSE THERE'S BENEFIT TO IT.

BUT IT'S ALSO TO LIKE BECAUSE WE COULD CONSOLIDATE DOWN JUST THE SAME WAY WHERE WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL ON A FAMILY DAY PASS AND WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS, BUT ELIMINATE THE OTHER FIVE. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, TOO, IF YOU WANTED TO RECOMMEND THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, BUT BUT REALISTICALLY, WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH A FAMILY OF FIVE? GO TO THE POOL FOR A MONTH OR THE GYM FOR A MONTH FOR $50.

RIGHT. YOU CAN'T GO OUT TO DINNER.

YOU CAN'T GO TO MCDONALD'S FOR THAT.

HARDLY. YEAH. AND SO, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU HAD A FAMILY OF SIX THAT CAME IN AT $5 A POP, IT'S IT WOULD BE $30 INSTEAD OF 18.

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SO JUST PUTTING ALL THE THINGS ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S NO PROBABLY PERFECT SOLUTION, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT.

LIKE OUR WHERE WE'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW WE'RE GENERATING IT, BUT ALSO TO KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'RE SERVING A COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS APPROPRIATE ACCESS.

WE HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION IN A SECOND.

AND THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ON THIS ONE IS WE HAD DISCUSSED MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE CHANGES AT THE START OF MAY AHEAD OF THE SUMMER.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE THESE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE PUT INTO MOTION MORE QUICKLY. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING, TOO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES, WE TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE FOR THE OTHER ONES, LIKE WE WITH THE MOTION, WE NEED A TIMELINE FOR THIS ONE.

I THINK IT MAKES SENSE.

I DO TOO. ESPECIALLY WITH YOU.

LET'S DO IT NOW AND EVERYTHING.

GO ON. SO MY AMENDED AMENDED A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT AND STARTED IN MAY.

I AGREE. I SECOND THE AMENDED, AMENDED MOTION.

THANK YOU. AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE WERE AT 35 FOR INDIVIDUAL, 50 FOR FAMILY.

WE'RE STICKING WITH THE SINGLE USE DAY PASS AND WE'RE DOING THE DISCOUNTS AT TEN AND 75.

CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

JUST MAKE SURE. THANK YOU.

NO WAY TO KEEP UP WITH IT.

ALL RIGHT, LAST ONE.

I THINK WE GOT A VOTE. OH, SORRY.

SORRY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF US SAYING ALL THOSE SAME SIGNS.

I. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY SO THIS LAST ONE AND SAID ALL THESE PLAY INTO OUR BUDGET SO WE'LL GO IN THERE.

[8. Discussion and possible action on the prioritization of facility improvements for the Angleton Recreation Center as identified in the Facility Conditions Assessment completed in January 2022.]

SO AGAIN FEBRUARY 28TH WE PRESENTED AB LC THE RESULTS OF FACILITY CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT, LOOKING AT THE MAJOR AREAS OF CONCERN OR NEED OR GENERAL CONDITIONS OF THE FACILITY. THIS WAS BASED OFF OF GENERAL SAFETY, FUNCTIONALITY, NORMAL WEAR OR OPTIMAL CONDITIONS. AND WE LOOKED AT THAT BASED OFF THE MAJOR FACILITY SPACES IN THE MAJOR FACILITY AMENITIES WITHIN THOSE SPACES.

AND SO WE IDENTIFIED THAT ALLOWED US TO KIND OF STRATIFY THE SCORES OF ITEMS THAT WERE IN HIGHER LEVEL CONDITION RELATIVE TO THEIR AGE VERSUS ONES THAT ARE APPROACHING NEEDING MORE IMMEDIATE, MORE IMMEDIATE OR KIND OF PUTTING PUT ON THE SCHEDULE FOR ATTENTION.

SO WITH THAT, WE CONSIDER THE LEVEL OF EFFORT, THE EXPENSE, THE EXPERTIZE ARE ABLE TO RESOLVE LOW SCORING ITEMS AND THIS IS ALL VARIES BASED OFF THE INDIVIDUAL ITEM AND THAT WILL HELP AN AID IN DETERMINING THE PRIORITIZATION AND THE NEEDED APPROACH TO RESOLVE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND ISSUES.

SO WE INCLUDED THE ITEMS WITH THE LOWEST ASSESSMENT SCORES THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO BE REMEDIED BY BASIC CLEANING OR GENERAL OPERATION CHANGES.

SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T JUST CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE'RE FUNCTIONING ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS TO ADDRESS THESE ARE GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL EFFORT, RESOURCES OR OUTSIDE INVOLVEMENT TO BE ABLE TO REMEDY.

SO ANYTHING THAT WAS BASED OFF OF CLUTTER, CLEANLINESS OR CHANGES IN SCHEDULING, WE LEFT OFF OF THIS. SO BASED OFF GOING THROUGH THIS, THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT SCORED OUT OF A SCORE OF ONE THROUGH FIVE FIVE BEING THE HIGHEST OR ZERO BEING THE LOWEST.

ANYTHING THAT WAS A TWO OR BELOW THAT DID NOT INCLUDE JUST BASIC OPERATIONAL OR CLEANING SCHEDULE CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE THE LOWEST SCORING BASED OFF OF THREE DIFFERENT THE AVERAGE OF THREE DIFFERENT THREE DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS, THE EXTERIOR WALLS AND THE GENERAL FACADE OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER FOR FULL FACILITY CLEANING, EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.

AND THESE AREN'T PRIORITY LISTS.

THIS IS JUST THE LIST IT CAME OFF THE THE THE OTHER ASSESSMENT CEILING TILE REPLACEMENT THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, INTERIOR WALL PAINTING AND PATCHING AND NATATORIUM POOL DECK FLOORING RESURFACING AND AUDITORIUM POOL AMENITIES PLAY FEATURES IN AUDITORIUM, DRYWALL AND PAINT AND THE WEIGHT ROOM GYMNASIUM CEILING CONDITION THE GYMNASIUM PAINT OVERALL THE COURT SURFACE FLOORING IN THE GYMNASIUM RESTROOM LOCKER STORE REMEDIATION THROUGHOUT RESTROOM AND LOCKER WALL REPAIRS FROM YEARS OF DRILLING AND THINGS INTO THE TILE LOCKER ROOM LOCKERS IN THEIR CONDITIONS, LOCKER ROOM STORAGE CABINETS AND THE GENERAL DAMAGE AND CONDITIONS WITH THOSE.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGH OUR FACILITY CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT.

BUT THESE WERE ALSO OFTEN REINFORCED WITH OUR ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER SURVEY THAT

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AND THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, CEILING TILES, WE CAN'T GO CHANGE CEILING TILES THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GYM CEILING TILES OR CEILING TILES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE FACILITY AND GET THEM ALL MATCHING AND IN THE SAME CONDITION, IT'S A BIGGER PROJECT. SO SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE SCOPED BEYOND JUST THE BASIC.

WE CAN GO DO THIS AND CHANGE SOME OPERATIONS TO ACCOMPLISH THEM.

SO THOSE ARE THE MAJOR ONES.

THERE'S OTHER ONES TOO THAT ARE NOT LISTED HERE THAT JUST DIDN'T SCORE QUITE AS LOW.

BUT THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT SCORED A TWO OR BELOW THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED.

AND SO WITH THAT, THE.

RECOMMENDATION IS FOR ABLAKWA TO PRIORITIZE FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND DIRECTS STAFF TO COLLECT PRICING FOR THE FY 2223 BUDGET CONSIDERATION AND CONSIDERATION OF ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE ITEMS AT THE REC CENTER. HOW LONG AGO WAS WE? HOW LONG AGO WAS IT? WE SHUT DOWN THE THE NATATORIUM AND RESURFACE THE POOL DECK AND.

OH, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS FOR THE PLAY TOY.

YEAH, WELL, YEAH, THAT WAS THE SLIDES AND THE TOYS, BUT WE SHUT IT DOWN FOR A WHILE AND THEY PAINTED THE CEILINGS, THEY RESURFACED, THEY RE PLASTERED BECAUSE WE HAD THAT ON ONE OF OUR BONDS. IT WAS A PRETTY SIZABLE FUND, BUT I GUESS A PUBLIC FACILITY BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE THE RESURFACING AGAIN THAT'S A FAIRLY EXPENSIVE BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAD BEEN AND SO THE RESURFACING IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DECK OUTSIDE OF THE POOL, NOT RE PLASTERING IN THE POOL.

I THINK WE I THINK WE DID THE DIDN'T WE DO THE THE SURFACE THE DECK THE LAST TIME WE DID WHEN THAT PART OF THE BIG BOARD I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN SEE EVIDENT YOU CAN SEE EVIDENCE OF AN OVERLAY OF THE ORIGINAL SURFACE, BUT THAT OVERLAY IS DAMAGED AND IT STAYS BECAUSE THEY HAD A PROBLEM. THE CONTRACTOR, WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO REMOVE THE ONE AND THE NEW ONE WOULDN'T STICK WELL AND IT WAS COMING OFF.

SO THEY WENT BACK AND AND CHANGE ORDERS, WHICH I ALWAYS HATE TO SEE THOSE, BUT THERE WAS SOME CHANGE ORDERS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

IT COST CONSIDERABLY MORE, BUT I GUESS A LIFESPAN DOESN'T WITH THAT.

THAT'S PROBABLY SIMILAR TO THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THE TENNIS COURTS, WITH WITH THE POROUS SURFACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND OVERLAY WILL GIVE YOU A TEMPORARY TYPE THING.

BUT MORE THAN LIKELY FOR SUSTAINABILITY IS THAT ENTIRE SOFT POROUS SURFACE IT WOULD NEED TO BE TORN OUT AND THEN REPLACED WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MORE PERMANENT.

BUT JUST WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAKES SENSE OF WHY IT WOULD BE WHY LAYERS ARE COMING UP.

OH, YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT THAT ENTAILS POOL CLOSURE AND THEN DOWNTIME AND THEN RE DRAINING THE POOL, REFILLING THE POOL, ALL OF THAT COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO WHEN LOOKING AT THE POOL TO JUST TO CONSIDER ALL THOSE THINGS YOU JUST MENTIONED.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE POOL IS OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST DRAW FOR THE FACILITY, AS WE'VE SEEN, EVIDENCED BY OUR USAGE.

BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS DO TAKE DRAINING OF THE POOL, CLEARING THE FACILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE REMEDIATIONS OF AQUATIC FACILITY, LIKE THEY PROBABLY SHOULD BE BUNDLED TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DRAIN AND DO THE POOL VERY OFTEN.

SO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT CONSIDERING RESURFACING THE POOL DECK, THERE'S OTHER ITEMS WITHIN THE NATATORIUM THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THEY'RE AGING WITHIN THE SAME LIFESPAN? YEAH, EXACTLY.

TO ME, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDS OUT IS THE LOCKER ROOM.

CHARLOTTE'S ALREADY MENTIONED IT.

EVERYBODY WHO USES THE FACILITY NEEDS TO USE THE RESTROOM OR THE, YOU KNOW, OR OR POTENTIALLY THE LOCKER ROOM.

SO FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY PRIORITY ITEMS. IF YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR PRIORITIES, RIGHT? FEEDBACK. YEAH, I MEAN, FEEDBACK.

AND THEN THE SUGGESTED LIST OF PRIORITIZATION.

SO THAT CAN THEN BE WE CAN COLLECT SPECIFIC FEES BASED OFF THAT PRIORITIZATION.

SO THEN IT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE THE BUDGET MOVING FORWARD.

ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER DURING BUDGET, IF YOU IF YOUR PREFERENCE IS NOT TO ADDRESS CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THE REC BUDGET, AGAIN, WE CAN COME TO YOU WITH COLLECTED FEES AND THEN YOU GUYS JUST ASSESS HOW YOU WANT TO SPEND YOUR CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM.

WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING US? SO WE HAVE $0 BUDGETED CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HEAR BACK WHAT THE PRIORITIES WERE.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE CONTINGENCY FUNDS CAN BE USED IN THE SAME MANNER SO THAT IF THERE ISN'T CONSENSUS, THIS IS THE INITIAL CONVERSATION WE CAN BEGIN IF THE DIRECTION IS TO BEGIN COLLECTING PRICING ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND WE CAN DO THAT AND THROUGHOUT THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR OR WHENEVER THESE PROJECTS COME UP, WHENEVER YOU GUYS DETERMINE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT OF NEXT FISCAL YEARS CONTINGENCY.

AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WITH LIKE FACILITY LIGHTING, THERE'S KIND OF TWO PHASES THAT WE DO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF PRICING FOR LIGHT REPLACEMENT THROUGHOUT MAJOR PORTIONS OF OUR FACILITY. BUT PART OF THAT WOULD ALSO JUST BE A GENERAL ASSESSMENT, BECAUSE IT MAY NOT

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BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF PRICING FOR WHAT THAT FULL REPLACEMENT BY AREA WOULD COST IF WE DID NEED TO ADDRESS IT AT A HIGHER LEVEL.

AND SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WOULD FALL UNDER TO IF WE ADDRESS THIS FULLY, THIS IS HOW MUCH IT COSTS. BUT THROUGH ASSESSMENT, WE MAY REALIZE THAT THERE IS A LESS EXPENSIVE OR AN INTERNAL PROCESS THAT WE COULD DO TO KNOCK SOME OF THESE ITEMS OFF THE LIST.

SO THIS JUST BASED OFF WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR, THESE ARE THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT REQUIRE MORE THAN JUST A, HEY, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN JUST CHANGE. WE WERE OPERATING WITH 30 STAFF OUT OF THE THIRD PARKS, THAT KIND OF THING. THIS IS IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THEIR TIME.

THEY'RE ABLE TO GET COMMIT TO IT AND BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE SOME OF THE CURRENT STAFF ABILITIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

LET ME SPEAK TO THAT, IF I COULD.

I, I WENT OVER AND MET WITH KYLE AND HE GAVE ME A TOUR TO SEE WHAT WAS IN NEED.

AND IT WAS IT WAS VERY THOROUGH.

LOOK, SEE AT EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON AND.

BECAUSE OF THAT.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WALK INTO ANY BUILDING, ANY ROOM, ANYBODY'S HOUSE, WHEREVER YOU YOU YOU TAKE THE LOOK OF THE WALKING IN AND.

IT. THE LIGHTING IS IS A IS A DETRIMENT TO THE WONDERFUL FACILITY.

THERE'S A LOT OF LIGHTS THAT ARE OUT.

SO HAVING TAKEN THAT AND SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH KYLE POINTING OUT VARIOUS VARIOUS THINGS THAT THAT ARE IN NEED OF BEING REPAIRED.

TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AND TO GET IT LIT UP WELL, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A VERY NICE FACILITY. YEAH, WE NEED SOME NEW PAINTING.

THAT'S NOT TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE IF YOU HAVE A PLAN TO DO IT.

BUT THE LIGHTING MAKES A WHOLE BIG DIFFERENCE IF WE'RE IN THIS ROOM AND THAT ONE RIGHT THERE IS OUT, WHICH MAY BE INTENTIONAL BECAUSE IT'S IN FRONT OF THE SIGN, I DON'T KNOW. BUT WHEN YOU WALK INTO A ROOM AND HALF OF THE LIGHTS OUT, IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THAT.

OOH, THIS IS NICE FEELING.

SO A SENSE THAT EVERYTHING ELSE IS MAINTAINED.

IT GIVES YOU THE IMPRESSION THAT IF THIS IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED, WHAT ELSE IS NOT? WELL. AND AND AND IT IT CAN SEEM SLIGHTLY GLOOMY.

IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THAT PERKY, WELL LIT SORT OF FEELING.

IF YOU WALK INTO A FACILITY AND IT AND IT FEELS REALLY DIM OR DID THEY NOT TURN ON THE LIGHTS OR IS IT A MOTION SENSOR OR WHATEVER? SO I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK ASSESSING THAT THE LIGHTS, ESPECIALLY INTERNALLY, I REALIZE THE OUTSIDE I'M GOING TO SAY INTERIOR BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE WALK IN, THAT'S WHEN THEIR KIDS ARE THERE. YOU WANT IT TO BE NICE AND YOU WANT IT TO BE A IT'S LIKE YOU WANT YOUR HOME TO BE NICE WHEN PEOPLE WALK IN.

YEAH. AND JUST FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE AND USER EXPERIENCE STANDPOINT, WHAT YOU'RE MENTIONING TO ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS IS AND WHAT MEGAN ALLUDED TO IS LIKE ONCE YOU NOTICE ONE THING AND THEN YOU NOTICE SOMETHING ELSE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU CAN START TO COMPOUND WITH THOSE THINGS.

SO IF YOU NOTICE SOMETHING ABOUT LIGHTING AND THEN YOU NOTICE SOMETHING ELSE, THEN YOU START TO DRAW CONCLUSIONS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ONE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT AS FAR AS FIRST IMPRESSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IS TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE THAT GOOD FIRST IMPRESSION, CREATE THE VALUE FOR INVESTMENT OF PEOPLE'S FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY WELL AND THINGS ARE BEING CARED FOR APPROPRIATELY.

AND SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE WHERE A LOT OF THIS IS COMING FROM.

AND AND JUST KIND OF GOING TO LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH THE LIGHTING.

THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED ON HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE JUST STEAM CLEANING AND GROUT CLEANING THE TILE AND CEILING, THE TILE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE THE MAIN FLOOR OF THE FACILITY IS IT'S VERY CLEAN.

IT'S MOPPED EVERY DAY, BUT IT'S DEVELOPED.

IT'S NO LONGER GOT A SHEEN TO IT AND THE GROUT BEEN WALKED ON.

AND SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMBINED WITH THE LIGHTING, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU START TO REALLY POP. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PROBABLY ADDRESS INTERNALLY, MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A MAJOR FACILITY.

SO THAT'S JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME MORE CONTEXT OF LIKE THERE'S OTHER THINGS ON THE LIST. THESE ARE THE BIGGEST, YOU KNOW, SOME MORE.

BUT. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR TWO BIGGEST ONES ARE GOING TO BE THE LOCKER ROOM, RESTROOM AREA AND LIGHTING FROM WHAT'S BEEN SAID.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY DIFFERENT THOUGHTS? I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE.

ALL RIGHT. MAYBE WE SHOULD GET BIDS OR START.

WHAT? WHAT WILL THAT COST US? YOU'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT. YEAH.

BIDS, BIDS FOR WORK AND STUFF.

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LIKE FOR LIGHTING. FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE ELECTRICIAN COME IN TO FORMALLY ASSESS ALL THE LIGHTING, THERE MAY BE AN ASSESSMENT FEE BECAUSE THAT'S MORE THAN JUST LIKE LOOKING AND SAY WE NEED TO REPLACE ALL THESE CANS.

IT'S LIKE WE DETERMINE THE PROBLEM AND DETERMINE IF THE CANS NEED TO BE REPLACED AND THINGS. SO THERE MAY BE SOME EXPENSE FOR AN ASSESSMENT FOR CERTAIN THINGS, BUT IN GENERAL, COLLECTING JUST A BID FOR REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT AND WE GET MOST OF THOSE WITHOUT COST. DIDN'T WE HAVE AN ASSESSMENT BY THE CITY? DID I THOUGHT SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC.

WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE RESULTS FOR THAT.

SO YES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AND YEAH.

AND THAT TO MY UNDERSTANDING, TOO WILL COME WITH A SUGGESTED PLAN FOR REMEDIATING THOSE ISSUES WITH A BUDGET TO PROJECT WHAT THE FUTURE SAVINGS AND THINGS WOULD BE.

AND SO WHILE THAT MAY BE PART OF MORE OF A LONG TERM SOLUTION TO MOVE IT, THERE IS CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BEGIN ADDRESSING.

HALLWAY WHEN YOU WALK IN, IT'S JUST SO DUMB.

BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT IF WE KNOW THAT'S COMING DOWN THE ROAD, THEN WE PRIORITIZE THE MOST VISIBLE SPACES THAT WE WORK ON.

AND THEN WE IF WE HAVE A LONG TERM SOLUTION WITH LIKE SNIDER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE, WE SAY WE PRIORITIZE THOSE MOST VISIBLE SPACES AND THEN ADDRESS THOSE AS WE GO.

AND THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF AN APPROACH THAT WE COULD TAKE.

SO. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT OUR PRIORITIZATION.

WELL, THE BABY'S HUNGRY.

YEAH. YEAH.

THE ONE THING I WOULD JUST NOTE IS JUST FOR.

JUST FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION.

AND THIS WILL COME UP AGAIN, IS IS JUST TO CONTINUE TO TO KEEP THE FINGER ON THE PULSE OF THE NATATORIUM. BECAUSE IF THERE IS ANY INTERRUPTIONS TO USAGE OF THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MAJOR INTERRUPTIONS TO USAGE OF THE FACILITY AS A WHOLE.

AND SO WHILE IT'S FUNCTIONING VERY WELL RIGHT NOW AND IT DOES HAVE SOME NEEDS OF REMEDIATION AND MOSTLY AS FAR AS PHYSICAL ATTRACTIVENESS AND CURB ARE NOT REALLY CURB APPEAL, BUT JUST GENERAL APPEAL.

JUST KEEPING THE FINGER ON THE PULSE OF THAT ONE SO THAT YOU DON'T GET TO A POINT WHERE AN AMENITY IS DOWN THAT MAJORLY IMPACTS US ON THE OTHER END.

SO. GOOD POINT.

DO WE NEED ANY ACTION ON THAT OR.

THAT'S NO PROBLEM, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. ONE, TWO OUT OF NINE.

I'M GOING TO ASK DISCUSSION OF THE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ANGLE TO BETTER LIVING CORPORATION ARTICLES. VISIONS IS SOMETHING WE CAN TACKLE AT THE NEXT MEETING.

IS THE BOARD OKAY WITH JUST TABLING THIS NEXT MEETING? YEAH, BECAUSE WE GET TO GO BACK TO THE BUDGET.

RIGHT. CORRECT.

IT DOES. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR.

YEARS. YEAH, 2020.

SO IT'S NOT. OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE BUDGET.

WE LEFT OFF ON PAGE ONE, 89, 189.

[5. Discuss and possible action on budget recommendations for Parks, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation division budgets for fiscal year 2022-2023. (Part 2 of 2)]

SO THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU GUYS IN JUNE.

WE YES, BACK TO YOU IN JUNE.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL IN AUGUST.

IS THE AIM. I MEAN, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TAKE IT AND GO THROUGH IT.

THE QUESTIONS. HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

BECAUSE WE CAN SPEND PROBABLY ANOTHER 30 TO 45 MINUTES.

OKAY. I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL GO WITH THAT.

JOHN I AGREE IT'S LATE.

SO THE ENTIRE CITY OF ANGLETON IS GETTING A 20% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE.

THOSE WERE THE NUMBERS WE WERE DIRECTED TO PUT IN THERE.

THAT'S A BUDGET THAT'S NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO.

IT'S JUST THE WORST CASE IN YOUR.

TO BE. OKAY.

SOME CONCERN. THERE WAS SOME REASON THAT BACKGROUND BEHIND IT YOU.

OKAY. OKAY.

AND IN THE CITY RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION, EVERY CITY EMPLOYEE THAT THE CITY PAYS IN EVERY YEAR, 12.9% OF THEIR PAYROLL.

INTO THE RETIREMENT.

IT SAYS CITY RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION 12.09.

NO. I LOOK ON.

NO. ONE PAGE 190.

YEAH. I'M WITH YOU ON THAT.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS PULLED FROM.

WE'LL LOOK BACK AT WE'LL TOUCH BASE WITH FINANCE TO SEE WHY THAT WAS A NOTE.

PAGE 190. BECAUSE CALCULATION.

WELL, ACTUALLY, IT COULD WORK FOR.

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YEAH. JUST IF YOU COULD GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON THAT.

THAT'S A PRETTY THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY GENEROUS, ACTUALLY.

THAT'S INCREDIBLY.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T GET A 12%.

WELL, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK, JOHN, IT'S A 2 TO 1 MATCH.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY IT'S A 2 TO 1.

WE'RE AT 6% OF OUR WAGE.

SO IT IS A 2 TO 1 MATCH FOR.

AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.

THIS BUDGET REFLECTS THE DECISIONS THAT WE PREVIOUSLY MADE.

IS IT? THE WITH THE TWO, WITH THE CHANGE OF OPERATION, CHANGE OF HOURS FOR PART TIME WAGES. I DID HAVE A QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THE NEW MEMBERSHIP SCHEDULE THAT MAY NOT BE REFLECTED IN THEIR. RIGHT.

YEAH. SO THE MEMBERSHIP AMOUNTS WERE BASED OFF OF CURRENT RATES.

AND SO WITH WE CAN GO BACK AND RECALCULATE IT WITH WHAT'S BEEN SUGGESTED AND HOW THAT WILL IMPACT NEXT YEAR.

AND SO YEAH, SO THAT, THAT WAS CALCULATED BASED OFF OUR, OUR CURRENT ACTUAL RATES WITH THE CHANGES IN RETENTION BUT NOT KNOWING LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE RATES.

SO. TO.

MEGAN, DID YOU SAY WE GET AN ANNUAL AUDIT ON THE BOOKS? NO, WE.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH FINANCE.

IT'S IN OUR BYLAWS THAT WE SHOULD BE.

THE CITY DOES AN ANNUAL AUDIT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ABC, THE CORPORATION ITSELF, IS ENCOMPASSED IN THAT ANNUAL AUDIT, SO I'M SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

BUT YES, WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT ANNUALLY FOR OUR OUR BYLAWS.

AND SOMEWHERE IN HERE.

YOU HAD MENTIONED IT EARLIER AND I WAS LOOKING FOR THE CD.

SO YOUR WE HAVE IT HERE IS IT COSTS $2,500 TO GET A COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE.

SO CDOS JUST THERE'S NEW LEGISLATION THAT JUST CAME OUT.

AND YES, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, WHICH IS A MAJOR CONCERN, TRAVELING AND TRAVEL AND TRAINING. AND WHEN I SAW THAT, I WAS LIKE, WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? OKAY. SO SO THAT THE PERSON WHO IS HEADING THE SENIORS PROGRAM WILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE THEM, BE THE DRIVER.

HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S BEST JUST IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, MAKE SURE YOU.

YES. AND ON THAT NOTE, IF YOU GUYS EVER HAVE, WE'RE AIMING TO GET THE AGENDAS OUT TO YOU GUYS A WEEK IN ADVANCE.

WE DO OUR BEST TO DO THAT, BUT A LOT OF WE'RE WAITING ON INFORMATION TO COME.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO GETTING THAT AGENDA OUT TO YOU.

BUT PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND DOING THINGS IN A PUBLIC FORUM, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF ALLOWING US TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED AND ARE REQUESTING, IT'S BENEFICIAL TO KNOW WHAT THOSE QUESTIONS MIGHT BE IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE CAN GET A THOROUGH ANSWER TO YOU.

YEAH. AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS ALL GOING TO CHANGE NOW.

SO IF YOU CAN GIVE US SOME UPDATED.

WITHOUT IT. GETTING UPDATES? ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL. ARE YOU BACK THERE? IT IS HOT. ANYTHING FURTHER FOR ACTION TONIGHT? THERE'S NOT. THAT SAID, WE WILL ADJOURN AT 925.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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