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>> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED FOR OUR CITY OF ANGLETON COUNCIL MEETING DATED TUESDAY,
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
JULY 12TH, 2022, AT 6:01.WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT AND MANY DEPARTMENT HEADS WITH US TONIGHT, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:01.
WE'LL JUMP RIGHT ON INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS,
[1. Discussion and possible action on a resolution changing the authorized persons to act as signatories on city accounts at First State Bank.]
WHICH IS NUMBER 1, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION CHANGING THE AUTHORIZED PERSONS TO ACT AS SIGNATORIES ON THE CITY'S ACCOUNT AT THE FIRST STATE BANK.I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU, YOU, YOU, GRAB A MICROPHONE, PLEASE, MA'AM.
>> BASICALLY, WHAT THAT IS IS JUST REMOVING FRANCIS FROM SIGNING, AND ADDING ME, BUT THE RESOLUTION IS CURRENTLY STILL IN DRAFT.. WE'RE WAITING FOR THE BANK TO SEND US THE AUTHORIZATION FORM TO PUT IN THAT FORM TITLE INTO THE RESOLUTION, SO IF YOU APPROVE IT AS IS, AND THEN WE CAN ADD IN THE NAME OF THE BANK FORM WHEN WE RECEIVE IT.
>> BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE BLANK QUOTATION MARKS ON THE RESOLUTION.
>> [OVERLAPPING] CORRECT, YES.
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 20220712-000, PENDING THE BANK AUTHORIZATION FORM.
>> I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> HAVE A SECOND BY MS. DANIELS.
MOTION BY [INAUDIBLE]. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
ITEM NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A TXDOT GRANT APPLICATION FOR
[2. Discussion and possible action on a TxDOT grant application for a Bicycle and Pedestrian Shared Paths initiative in the downtown Angleton area.]
A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SHARED PATHS INITIATIVE IN THE DOWNTOWN ANGLETON AREA.>> LET ME START REAL QUICK. THE REASON WHY THESE TWO AGENDA ITEMS ARE ON THE BUDGET WORKSHOP IS BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY TIME-SENSITIVE AND SO PART OF IT GO IN THAT EXPLANATION.
ANY NUMBERS ON HOW LONG THIS MEETING WENT? WE GET TO DISCOUNT THIS. [LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION, CHRIS.
I AM HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY.
WE HAVE BEEN INVITED TO SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION THAT WILL RESULT IN TRANSFORMATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO DOWNTOWN ANGLETON WHILE PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACCESS TO PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FACILITIES.
NEW 10-FOOT WIDE SHARED PATHS ON DESIGNATED STREETS WILL CONNECT CITIZENS TO CITY HALL, A METRO BUS STOP, THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN CAMPUS, VETERANS PARK, MASTERSON PARK, MULTIPLE CHURCHES, NUMEROUS BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, AND RETAIL, AND WILL ONLY BE ONE BLOCK FROM PETE STREET FARMER'S MARKET.
IF NECESSARY, BIKE LANES WITH A BUFFER MAY BE USED ON CERTAIN STREETS DUE TO RIGHT-OF-WAY OR UTILITY CONSIDERATIONS.
HAVE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT? BASICALLY, THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ALONG BOTH SIDES OF 274 IN THE GREEN GRASSY AREA.
THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE FOR THESE SHARED PATHS ON BOTH SIDES.
THEN PERPENDICULAR, WE WOULD COME FROM FRONT STREET DOWN ORANGE TO ARCOLA.
ARCOLA ALL THE WAY TO EAST CEDAR AND THEN OVER TO FRONT STREET.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A SHARED PATH ALONG LOCUST THAT WOULD RUN PAST THE COURTHOUSE CAMPUS AND RIGHT UP TO FRONT STREET.
WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS IS TO FURTHER RESEARCH THESE ROUTES AND SEE HOW POSSIBLE THEY ARE.
THIS IS A TXDOT GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT WILL FUND 80 PERCENT OF A MULTI-USE PATH SYSTEM.
THE GRANT RANGES BETWEEN 10 MILLION AND 25 MILLION.
WE'RE THINKING AROUND 11 MILLION IS WHERE WE'LL LAND.
THE CITY HAS BEEN ENCOURAGED TO APPLY FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
ONE IS THE CITY AND COUNTY OWN MUCH OF THE LAND IN THE PROJECT AREA.
IN FACT, THANKS TO A LITTLE QUICK RESEARCH, WE FOUND THERE ARE ONLY NINE OTHER LAND OWNERS
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THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MEET WITH TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT-OF-WAY.TWO, IS THERE IS SPACE FOR THE PATHS OR BIKE LANES, AND THREE, A LIVABLE CENTER STUDY HAS BEEN COMPLETED TO PROVIDE MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, IMPROVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, AND PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT OF ANGLETON.
THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO ADDRESS SEVERAL ACTION ITEMS IDENTIFIED IN THE STUDY WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
KEY TXDOT STAFF IS PARTNERING WITH US ON THE APPLICATION, AND WHAT I MORE SPECIFICALLY MEAN ABOUT THAT IS THEY'RE COACHING ME.
I PROPOSE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD IN TWO PHASES.
THE FIRST PHASE WILL BE PUTTING TOGETHER SOME ROUTE EVALUATION, WHICH WILL BE PERFORMED BY HDR ENGINEERING.
THEIR WORK WILL INCLUDE DETAILED SITE VISITS AND DOCUMENTATION, ALIGNMENT IDENTIFICATION, IDENTIFICATION OF REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS, COST ESTIMATING, CREATION OF TECHNICAL EXHIBITS, MEETINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AND TALK TO COMMISSIONERS COURT ABOUT OUR PROJECT.
THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT WE FIND FROM THOSE ACTIVITIES AND PRESENT WHAT WE REALLY PROPOSE AS A FINAL DESIGN FOR THE PLAN.
IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE AND WE HAVE GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE LAND OWNERS AND SHAREHOLDERS, THEN HOPEFULLY, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER ALLOWING US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FULL APPLICATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? HERE'S SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT.
THIS PLAN WILL INCLUDE ABOUT THREE LINEAR MILES OF 10-FOOT WIDE SHARED PATHS.
I KNOW YOU FIND SIDEWALKS IMPORTANT IN CITY DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS ALSO A GOOD WAY TO DEMONSTRATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO ADA COMPLIANCE BECAUSE AT EVERY INTERSECTION, THERE'S GOING TO BE CURBING GUTTER WITH RAMPS THAT ARE ADA COMPLIANT, STREET MARKINGS, AND SIGNALS WHERE APPROPRIATE.
THIS IS GOING TO GIVE YOU AN ADVANTAGE IN THOSE TWO ARENAS.
>> THANK YOU, MS. PATTY. WE'LL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
>> [NOISE] I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A QUESTION AS MUCH AS A COMMENT.
THAT [INAUDIBLE] 274, I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY SPENT YEARS DEVELOPING TREES.
CAN WE DO THAT WITHOUT CUTTING DOWN THE LITERALLY 20 YEARS OF TREES THAT HAVE GROWN?
>> WE DON'T WANT TO CUT ANY TREES DOWN ALONG 274 AND WE DON'T NEED TO CLOSE FRONT STREET.
>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, WE DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THERE BEING ENOUGH SPACE TO BOTH PATH, TREES, AND BEING THAT CLOSE TO 274?
>> NO, NOT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE ARE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE INSIDE OF THAT, CLOSER TO FRONT STREET THAN 274.
MEGAN HAD SUGGESTED THAT IF WE WANTED TO INCREASE A BARRIER, WE COULD DO THAT WITH LANDSCAPING, BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY PROBLEM THERE.
IN FACT, IT'S A SHAME IT'S NOT BEING USED MORE NOW.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN FOR THE CITY THERE.
>> YOU SAID IT'S A COMMITMENT TO THE ADA COMPLIANCE, BUT WE WOULD STILL BE DEEMED ON ALL THE ADA COMPLIANCE ISSUES WE HAVE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THIS WOULD NOT ADDRESS ANY OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS AREAS AND THE ACCESSIBILITY TO THOSE FACILITIES.
>> I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT, JOHN.
IN ADDITION TO THIS GRANT, WE'RE GOING TO RE-SUBMIT THE DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK PROJECT TO TXDOT AT THE SAME TIME.
WE'VE BEEN INVITED TO DO THAT AS WELL.
AS YOU REMEMBER, I'M SURE, WE DID THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND IT WAS DECLINED, BUT THEY LOVED OUR PROJECT, AND THEY'VE ASKED US TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE WITH IT.
WITH THIS PROJECT, OVERLAID WITH THE OTHER PROJECT, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE PHENOMENAL.
>> THE 80 PERCENT OF 11, THE 20 PERCENT WOULD BE ABOUT 2.2 MILLION,
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WHERE WOULD THE FUNDING COME FROM FOR THAT?>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION TOO.
WHAT WE WANT TO DO, IT DEPENDS, IS MY ANSWER.
WE'RE THINKING THAT IT'S POSSIBLE, AND THEY CALL IT A TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES GRANT, WE REFER TO IT INTERNALLY AS A DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK PROJECT, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE MATCH FOR BOTH OF THOSE, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BUNDLE, AND MAYBE GO TO THE MARKET FOR IF COUNCIL FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT.
[OVERLAPPING] PLEASE KEEP IN MIND TOO, I'M SORRY, THAT NEITHER ONE OF THESE WOULD BE FUNDED UNTIL JANUARY 2024.
>> I GUESS TO THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE AND IT'S REALLY TO STAFF, IS THIS THE BEST USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR THIS? IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NEEDED THAT MUCH? I MEAN, IF YOU FEEL LIKE, IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME AND YOU ENVISION A LOT OF PEOPLE BICYCLING OR RUNNING ALONG THIS ROUTE.
DOES IT DO ANYTHING FOR OUR DOWNTOWN? THAT'S WILL ALWAYS BE OUR FIRST QUESTION.
>> MARTHA MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS TOO, BUT IT IS PART OF THE LIVABLE CENTERS VISION AND OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE THIS.
YOU KNOW, AT FIRST IT'S NEW PEOPLE MAYBE DON'T USE IT A LOT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY SEE EACH OTHER OUT AND ABOUT.
I SEE IT AS A GREAT WAY FOR TOURISTS AND VISITORS.
ALL THE BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT WORKED DOWNTOWN AND FOLKS FROM THE COURTHOUSE TO GATHER AND MOVE AROUND.
IT'S GOING TO ALLEVIATE SOME TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND PARKING PROBLEMS TOO.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD ABOUT MOVABLE CENTERS?
>> YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING SAY THAT WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH LIVABLE CENTERS, TEXT DOT, FREEZING NICKELS, ALL OF THE GROUPS THAT WERE AROUND THE TABLE, AND THE SEC TALKED ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING AND ABILITIES TO USE FRONT STREET BECAUSE IT'S VERY UNDERUTILIZED.
THE TWO PROJECTS THAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT, WOULD JUST BE A GAME CHANGER, I REALLY WOULD.
>> BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN THE LIVABLE CENTERS IN THE MEETINGS THAT I WAS SITTING IN, IT WAS REALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE REVITALIZATION OF THE DOWNTOWN AND HAVING MORE PEOPLE GOING IN THERE AND ITS CURRENT STATE, IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYBODY OVER THERE ON THE FRONT STREET SIDE.
>> CORRECT, SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO BE VISIONARY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, THINK ABOUT ALL THE PROPERTY THAT'S AVAILABLE ALONG FRONT STREET.
>> I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO JUST DRAIN.
>> THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR OPEN SPOTS ARE ALONG FRONT STREET.
>> CORRECT, SO IMAGINE IF YOU'VE BEEN TO AUSTIN AND YOU THINK ABOUT RAINY STREET OR THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF DEVELOPMENT TO BEGIN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN YOU HAVE A WHOLE SHIFT OF NIGHTLIFE AND WALKABILITY AND CONNECTIVITY.
IT COULD COME. YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU GO TO ANOTHER CITY AND YOU'RE LIKE, THAT WAS SO EASY.
I FLEW IN HERE AND I STAYED HERE AND I WALKED ALL AROUND AND I GOT TO ALL THE PLACES.
THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S CONNECTED.
WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS IN A DOWNTOWN THAT AREN'T CONNECTED.
IT'S JUST WAS NOT A THING AT THE TIME.
WE NEED TO GET THAT CONNECTIVITY IN ORDER TO CREATE COMMERCE DOWN THERE.
>> YOU THINK THE CONNECTIVITY NEEDS TO COME IN THE FORM OF BIKE PATHS.
>> I THINK THEY'RE SHARED PATHS.
>> BECAUSE IN THE END WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSE TO 2.5 MILLION.
JOHN IS SUGGESTING BIKE PATHS OR MULTI USE PATHS OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT.
YOU ALL KNOW HOW VALUABLE 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS IS TO A CITY.
JUST SEEMS LIKE A STEEP COMMITMENT.
BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, SURE, WE CAN WAIT A COUPLE OF YEARS AND COMMIT SOME CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS, SOME DEBT SERVICE TOO.
BUT WE HAVE BOOKS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT CITY MANAGER HAS ALREADY PRESENTED TO US THAT WE NEED TO START KEEP PLUCKING AWAY.
I DON'T KNOW. I WONDER, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN DO IT FOR LESS? MEANING WHY, 11 MILLION, IS IT THAT MUCH THAT WE COULDN'T DO FOR SIX OR SEVEN OR WHICH DRIVES ARE STILL THE SAME PERCENTAGE, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS LESS.
IT SEEMS LIKE 11 MILLION, I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT MAYBE THAT'S THE TAJ MAHAL VERSION.
>> WELL, IT'LL HAVE TO INCLUDE SOLAR LIGHTS,
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LANDSCAPE, LOT OF OTHER BIKE RACKS, BENCHES.THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT.
JOHN FROM HER, HAS JOINED US TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'VE DRIVEN IT TOGETHER AND I KNOW HE'S DRIVEN IT ON HIS OWN TOO I'M SURE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES AND MAYBE SOME UTILITY ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE A COMMENT FROM JOHN, HE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE ONE.
>> [NOISE] THANK YOU COUNCIL. PATTY IS GIGGLING BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS TOLD HER THE SCARIEST THING FOR AN ENGINEER TO DO AS A SIDEWALK PROJECT.
EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S SO EASY.
YOU JUST GO OUT AND YOU PUT A SIDEWALK DOWN, AND GO ON ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE IMPACTS TO THE DRAINAGE, THE RIGHT AWAY ISSUES, TREE ISSUES, WHICH I'VE ALREADY BROUGHT UP, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WHAT'S GOING TO DO THE PARKING, LIKE WHAT WE HAD WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OVER THERE ON ARCOLA IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH.
THERE'S ALL THESE ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT.
IT'S NOT JUST, LET'S GO GET THE MONEY.
I CAN GIVE YOU A PRICE TO PUT SIDEWALK IN AND WE'LL JUST ENGINEER IT AND CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE, YOU GOT TO KNOW THE IMPACT OF YOUR COMMUNITY. WHAT'S THAT'S GOING TO DO? SOME SHALLOW DITCHES, IF YOU WERE TO PUT UP A SIDEWALK IN THERE THEY'RE THERE'D BE FILLED IN.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT LIKE WHAT WE DID ON MILLER STREET IN PARIS STREET WHERE WE HAD TO PUT THE LITTLE SIDE AND PUT THE SIDEWALK ON TOP OF THE PIPE, IT'S GOING BE THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S THE THING THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO PATTY ABOUT IS UNTIL WE REALLY GET A GRASP OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO DO THIS PROJECT, IT'S HARD TO PUT A NUMBER ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING BE LOOKING FOR IN YOUR INVESTMENT.
WE'VE TALKED TO TEXTILE AND THEY'D BEEN COACHING PATTY REALLY WELL.
PATTY HAS BEEN COMPLETELY IMMERSED IN THEIR SYSTEM.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR DRAINAGE.
THERE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR UTILITY ADJUSTMENTS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
IT'S MOSTLY GOING TO BE SIDEWALK THE CITIES IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE REST AND THEN FOOT THE OTHER PERCENTAGE OF THE BILL.
TWENTY PERCENT OF THE PROJECT IS THE SIDEWALK AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL COST IS ALL THE OTHER THINGS YOU'VE MENTIONED.
>> EXCUSE ME, JOHN, FIRST STEP IN FRONT OF YOU [LAUGHTER] JOHN'S THE REALIST AND I'M THE DREAMER.
WHAT TEXTILE HAS SHARED WITH ME IS THEY CAN'T FIND MAJOR UTILITY WORK AND MAJOR DRAINAGE WORK.
LIKE JOHN AND I WERE REALLY HOPING THAT WE COULD TAKE THOSE POWER LINES OVER ON LOCUS AND PUT THEM UNDER THE STREET.
YOU KNOW THAT A GO BETWEEN LOCUS IN THE COURTHOUSE.
WE HAVE GREAT ARGUMENTS ABOUT BUILDING RESILIENCE AND BEAUTIFICATION, BUT I RAN THAT BY THEM AND THEY SAID THAT WAS MORE THAN THEY WERE REALLY GOING TO TAKE ON.
BUT THEY WOULD CONSIDER SOME SMALLER DRAINAGE ASPECTS OF A PROPOSAL THAT HAD TO BE DONE TO PUT THE SHARED PATH IN.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE POSITIONED THIS IS AS A TWO-PHASE PROJECT.
PHASE 1, WE NEED TO DO SOME DISCOVERY.
WE NEED TO GO OUT AND TALK TO SHAREHOLDERS.
JOHN NEEDS A CHANCE TO REALLY EXAMINE THE SITES AND COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN IN A FEW WEEKS AND TELL YOU WHAT WE FIND AND WHAT WE REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO COST, WITH A LOT MORE DETAIL.
BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME MONEY TO GET TO THAT POINT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S JUST HOW THE WORLD IS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, WE WANTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THE PROJECT AND IF YOU WOULD SUPPORT SPENDING SOME MONEY TO GET THERE BECAUSE IT IS UNBUDGETED.
>> I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT THE TREES ALONG 274, BUT ALSO JUST THE MASSIVE WIDTH OF THE 10 FOOT SHARED PATH, AND WHAT IT WOULD DO FOR THE DRAINAGE SINCE IT'S GOING TO COVER A LOT OF GRASS.
I LOOKED ON THE TEXT STOCK REQUIREMENTS AND IT SHOWED THAT A FOUR FOOT BUFFER AND THEN THE 10 FOOT WIDE.
BUT THERE WAS ALSO AN OPTION OF HAVING AN EIGHT FOOT, BUT IT'S SPECIAL CONSIDERATION AND IT HAS TO BE LESS THAN 30 PERCENT BIKE TRAFFIC CURRENTLY, SO WE WOULD MEET THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY, BUT BIKE TRAFFIC CURRENTLY.
I JUST WONDER, HOW MUCH PLAY IN CHOOSING DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ON LIKE, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? WHAT DO WE HAVE TO COMMIT TO? ALSO DON'T LIKE TAKING AWAY THE DIAGONAL PARKING IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH.
THE FOUR OR FIVE HANDICAP SPOTS.
>> THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
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WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT AND JOHN FEELS CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT DOWN ARCOLA WITHOUT TAKING AWAY THAT PARKING.>> THIS ISN'T PART OF THAT, RIGHT?
>> THIS IS NOT PART OF THE CHURCH PARKING LOT OR THE CHURCH.
THIS ISN'T ABOUT ARCOLA THOUGH, RIGHT?
THE SHARED PATH WOULD GO FROM ORANGE STREET ALL THE WAY DOWN TO EAST CEDAR AND IT WOULD BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET.
IT WOULD TIE IN TO WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING [NOISE] BEHIND THE NEW BUILDING. IS THAT RIGHT, JOHN? LET ME GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTION.
WE'RE STILL IN A NEGOTIATION STAGE WITH TEXTILE.
WE NEED TO SEE NOT JUST WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO COMMIT TO.
IN ORDER TO HAVE A TRUE VALUE NEGOTIATION, WE NEED TO DO SOME STUDYING AND GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE WHAT FEEDBACK WE GET.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO PROCEED WITH THIS PHASE 1.
>> I'LL SAY LIKE JOHN SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GET RESISTANCE FROM THE CHURCH BECAUSE WE SAID THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO IMPACT THAT PARKING THERE.
>> WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO IMPACT THEIR PARKING.
>> BUT YOU JUST SAID THE WEST SIDE OF ARCOLA.
>> RIGHT. THERE'S AN EXISTING SIDEWALK THAT'S WITHIN THE WRIGHT WAY BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK AND THE SIDEWALK BACK TOWARDS THE ROAD.
THERE'S AMPLE ROOM TO PUT THE NEW 10 FOOT SIDEWALK PATH AND WE WENT AND TOOK SOME MEASUREMENTS THE OTHER DAY.
THAT WAS PART OF THE EXHIBIT DONOR OF THE EXHIBIT WE PREPARED.
THAT EXHIBIT INCLUDED THAT SECTION 3 THERE.
WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING, THE TOWN HALL MEETING.
>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THESE RED AND BLUE ROUTES ON THIS MAP THAT YOU'VE GOT?
>> IT DOESN'T GO IN FRONT OF FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH ALONG ARCOLA STREET.
>> THERE IS DOTTED LINE IN THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT A BLUE OR BOLD BLUE WITHDRAWS NORTH AND SOUTH ALONG 274 AND THE THREE BOLD RED ONES THAT RUN EAST AND WEST.
>> BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR WHOLENESS.
>> ON THIS PRESENTATION OR SOME OTHER PRESENTATION?
>> THIS PRESENTATION. I'M SORRY, IT WASN'T [INAUDIBLE] YOU CAN SEE IT THERE.
I DESCRIBED IT IN THE PACKET BUT IT SHOULD HANDLE LINE HERE THAT INDICATES THE SIDEWALK.
>> WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT JUST IN-HOUSE, TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, PUTTING THAT SIDEWALK ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE IT WOULD GO THEN RIGHT BY MASTERSON.
BUT JOHN'S SAID IT'D BE A LOT SMARTER TO PUT IT ON THE WEST SIDE BECAUSE WE HAD MORE ROOM OVER THERE, IT WAS GOING TO BE LESS COMPLICATED AND IT COULD TIE INTO WHAT THE COUNTY IS ALREADY DOING.
>> I'M INTRIGUED BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO DO SOME MORE WORK.
>> I'M ONE OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN ANGLETON THAT DON'T CARE FOR SHARED SIDEWALK WITH BICYCLES.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET BLOWBACK FROM ME.
I BELIEVE NOW STANDARD SIDEWALK WIDTH IS FIVE FEET.
YOU BUILD A SHARED NEW SIDEWALK, THAT'S DOUBLE THE PRICE.
MY MATH SAYS 2 TIMES 5 IS 10 SO THAT'S HOW I CAME UP WITH THAT.
>> I'LL TAKE OUR CITY STANDARD REQUIRING EVERYBODY AROUND HERE TO BUILD FIVE-FOOT SIDEWALKS.
WE'D HAVE TO ADHERE TO THAT SAME STANDARD.
WE GET SELECTED. ARE WE ON THE HOOK FOR IT OR WE GUYS ARE [NOISE]? WE GOT TO TALK.
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO IF WE GET SELECTED, WE ARE COMMITTING NOW.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMIT TO THE MATCH UNTIL WE'RE SELECTED.
>> IF WE'RE SELECTED, WE CAN SAY NO.
BUT YOU'RE ASKING US FOR THE $24,000 I GUESS TO GET STARTED?
JUST TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT, IF YOU REALLY LOVE WHAT WE BRING BACK AFTER PHASE 1, THERE'S MORE WORK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN PHASE 2 TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, WE'D HAVE TO DO A RIGHT-OF-WAY SURVEY, WE'D HAVE TO DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, WE'D HAVE TO DO AN ENGINEERING DESIGN SO THERE WOULD BE MORE MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SPENT.
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YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT OVER AND OVER IN LARGE BRIGADE.>> WOULD THEIR 80 PERCENT COVER THAT?
>> IT'S JUST THE CONSTRUCTION COST?
>> MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO CITIES DO THIS SCENARIO THAT WE'RE IN? EVERY PENNY IS PRECIOUS TO US AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU CAN GET GRANT MONEY, YOU'VE GOT TO SPEND MONEY.
WE GET THAT. WHAT OTHER CITIES DEAL WITH? HOW DO THEY GET TO THIS AREA? OR THEY'RE JUST ALREADY A PRETTY WEALTHY CITY THAT HAS JUST MONEY SITTING AROUND.
THEY CAN SPEND $23,000 DROP OF A HAT AND THEN ANOTHER $50,000, $60,000 OF THE DROP OF A HAT.
WITH YOUR CONTACTS OR JOHN WITH THE OTHER CITIES, HOW DO THEY DO IT?
>> WELL, ONE THING IS A LOT OF CITIES PUT GRANT DEVELOPMENT MONEY IN THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET.
THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S TIME TO PAY A MATCH, IF IT'S IN THE MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR RANGE, THEN IT'S OFTEN A BOND.
>> I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE INITIAL FUNDING RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
>> IT'S USUALLY PART OF AN ANNUAL BUDGET, GRANT DEVELOPMENT.
>> GRANT DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU.
[NOISE] WHEN YOU SAY THIS IS A TIMELINE, CAN YOU JUST IN A 30-SECOND COMMERCIAL, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? BECAUSE YOU SAID TONIGHT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
IS IT 30 DAYS, 90 DAYS, SIX MONTHS?
>> THE GRANT IS DUE OCTOBER 1ST.
>> IN ORDER TO GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT WE FIND OUT FROM PHASE 1 AND LET YOU DECIDE IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT, WE HAVE ONLY NOW ABOUT THREE WEEKS TO DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORK.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS BECOMING URGENT.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD.
THE NEEDS FOR THE CITY RIGHT NOW, I DON'T SEE THIS AS OF ALL THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE, THAT THIS IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING.
I APPRECIATE THAT TEXTS THAT WANTS TO GIVE US A GRANT AND 80 PERCENT BUT I JUST DON'T SEE US BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THIS RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE OTHER LOOMING CIP ITEMS WE HAVE.
>> WELL, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO COME TO YOU NOW AND FIND OUT BEFORE WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT PURSUING SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN RIGHT NOW.
>> THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE THERE'S A SHORT TIMELINE OF FARM FOR AN APPLICATION AND SO NORMALLY WE WOULD ADD TEXT.COM AND DRAW THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THAT'S THE TIMELINE THEY'RE THROWING AT US AND WE'D LIKE YOU TO BEAT. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IN LIFE.
WE GOT $400 MILLION IN WATER AND SEWER ISSUES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT ALL SO WE GOT TO SAY WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
MAYBE IT'S THE TA IS MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF ADA, PROMOTION OF BUSINESSES, WHATEVER, AND MAYBE TEXTILE COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT OFFER AT SOME POINT.
MAYBE IT'S A BETTER OFFER AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
>> THIS IS NOT YOU BUT IT SEEMS TO BE FROM MY NOVICE, NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE IN MY LIFE.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE ARE ALWAYS INVITING PEOPLE TO COME APPLY FOR THEIR GRANTS.
NOT SAYING IT'S AMBITIOUS, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PRACTICE FOR THEM AND IT'S A MUCH BIGGER DEAL FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE INVESTING MONEY, FOR THEM, THEY'RE INVITING YOU TO SPEND MONEY ON THEM.
NOW, OF COURSE, THEY GET MONEY BACK IN RETURN BUT OF COURSE, IT'S BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT COME WITH IT AND ALL SORTS OF STRINGS.
>> CHRIS TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, HAS TEXTILE IN VENICE INVOLVED IN INVITING US TO APPLY FOR SOMETHING BEFORE?
>> ANYTIME THEY REACH OUT AND PROPOSE A PROJECT AND PROPOSE TO SPEND 80 PERCENT ON YOU, I MEAN THAT'S A GREAT THING.
IT'S GOING TO GET ENGINEERED TO THE STANDARD YOU WANT.
WE DID THAT FIVE-LETTER WORD A BUNCH OF MONTHS AGO, CALL THE STUDY ON THE LOUISVILLE CENTERS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTION PLAN TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT AND SO HERE'S AN ACTION PLAN.
I GET PRIORITIES AND I GET BUDGETS AND CEOS AND DEBT CAPACITY AND ALL THAT STUFF.
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AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, IT'S A TIGHT TIMELINE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TEXTILE HERE BUT I JUST NEED SOME FEEDBACK SO I CAN TELL TEXTILE YES OR TELL THEM NO.>> ARE WE REAPPLYING FOR THE DOWNTOWN? GIVE ME A QUICK SYNOPSIS, REAL QUICK ON THAT ONE.
>> LAST COUNCIL, I CAME AND ASKED YOU FOR $5,000 SO WE COULD REVIEW THE ESTIMATE.
WHEN WE APPLY LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS A $2.7 MILLION BUDGET AND I'M GUESSING WILL PROBABLY BE IN A FIVE MILLION DOLLAR RANGE FOR THE REVISED BUDGET BECAUSE OF MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES.
THAT'LL BE A LESS EXPENSIVE PROJECT FROM THE GRANT PERSPECTIVE BUT IT'S A BIG PROJECT TOO.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> CORRECT. BUT THAT ACTUALLY SERVICES THE DOWNTOWN THAT'S EXISTING NOW?
>> THAT'S A HIGH PAYOFF PROJECT.
>> TO ME, THAT'S WHERE THE EGGS SHOULD BE IN THAT BASKET [NOISE] NOT THIS ONE AT THE MOMENT.
>> IF YOU HAD TO WEIGH THEM AND YOU ARE GOING TO SPEND TWO MILLION DOLLARS, I'D PUT THEM IN THE DOWNTOWN ALONG THAT BUSINESS ROUTE FIRST WHICH MEANS I WOULDN'T WASTE SEED MONEY ON THIS, I'LL MAKE SURE I WIN THE OTHER ONE.
>> WHAT IF I SPOKE WITH TEXT ON AND ASKED THEM IF WE COULD FOLD IN THE 274 SHEARED PAST WITH THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT?
>> STILL MORE MONEY. YOU'RE LOOKING FROM $11 MILLION TO SOMETHING ELSE A LOT HIGHER?
>> NO, SIR, I MEAN WE WOULD GO FROM MAYBE FOUR MILLION FOR THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT TO MAYBE EIGHT, NO, NOT THAT MUCH, PROBABLY $6 MILLION JUST TO INCLUDE THE SHARED PATH ALONG TO 274.
IT'S ONLY A PORTION OF THE CONNECTOR PATH PROJECT BUT IT COULD ADD CONNECTION FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
>> I'M OKAY. I MEAN, WHAT DOES IT HURT TO ASK? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU LOSE BY ASKING.
>> I THINK I HEARD THAT COMMENT BEFORE.
GUINNESS BE SCALABLE TO REALLY JUST WHAT WE'D WANT TO DO AND NOT ALL THE ARE COLA'S.
SOME OF THE SIDE STREETS, BUT MAYBE IT SETS YOUR PATH ON 274 AND MAYBE IT'S A CONNECTOR OVER TO THE DOWNTOWN.
THE TA PROJECT, WHICH WOULD SHOW DIRECT BENEFIT AND CONNECTIVITY.
BUT IT'S DOING ALL THE CILIARY HOUSE.
>> IN THE 274 WOULD BE CONNECTED AT MUNSON UNDERNEATH THE OVERPASS.
THESE FOLKS AT TEXAS HAVE SHARED WITH ME THAT EVENTUALLY IF WE COULD DO MORE WORK DOWN THE ROAD, WE COULD MAYBE CONTINUE TO BUILD THESE SHARED PASS ALL THE WAY TO BATES DICKEY AND THEN DOWN ANCHOR ROAD TO LAKESIDE PARK.
>> I LIKE THE IDEA. I MEAN, LET'S START SOMEWHERE.
LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S CHRIS AND IT PROBABLY JUST ECHOING OURSELVES NOW, BUT IT'S ABOUT PICKING THOSE, WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT PROJECTS.
>> AS FAR AS THE LIST OF PRIORITY IN MY HEAD IS THE ESSENTIAL DOWNTOWN 274 AND THEN SIDE STREETS.
I MEAN, TWO-AND-A-HALF MILLION DOLLARS, I CAN'T JUSTIFY THAT WITH EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.
WHETHER IT'S THIS YEAR OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
>> I'M FULLY AWARE. [LAUGHTER]
>> MAYBE I RECOMMEND WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL IT GETS MORE INFORMATION AND COME BACK TO Y'ALL.
>> WELL, IF YOU WANT US TO DO MORE INVESTIGATION, THAT WOULD BE PHASE 1 OF OUR PLANNING AND THAT WOULD COST $25,000.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO TEXT OUT AND SAY, WE'RE NOT READY TO MAKE A DECISION.
THE COUNCIL GUIDANCE, IT'S TOO BIG OF A PROJECT.
SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MAYBE TIED, LIKE YOU SUGGESTED TO THE TAA PROGRAM DIRECTLY.
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IT'S A ONE-SHOT.TELL US IF THAT WORKS AND IF THEY SAY, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED, THEN WE'VE GOT DIRECTION FROM THEM.
IF THEY AGREE, WE GOT TIME TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
>> THE GRANT FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS UP TO $9 MILLION.
WE HAVE ROOM IN THAT GRANT AMOUNT TO MAYBE ADD THAT IN.
THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION.
>> YOU'RE JUST GOING TO RECOMMEND WE JUST POSTPONE IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD UNTIL WE GET MORE INFORMATION?
>> I'M CURIOUS AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST MY WHOLE TEXT DOT THING.
BUT THEY INVITED US TO DO THE DOWNTOWN, THE TA.
>> LAST YEAR, NO. WE STEPPED OUT THERE AND DID THAT OURSELVES.
>> HAVE THEY COME BACK TO US THIS TIME AND SAY GO AHEAD AND COME BACK WITH IT TO US?
>> NOW, IN ADDITION, THEY'RE ASKING US ALSO TO APPLY FOR THIS OTHER ONE.
>> WELL, AT LEAST WE'RE ASKING US THIS TIME LTA.
THANK YOU. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU.
>> WHAT PAT HAS BEEN SAYING IS THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD SYNERGY BETWEEN OUR CITY IN TEXTILES.
WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM ON PROJECTS.
THEY'RE COMMUNICATING WITH US.
IT'S GOOD POSITION FOR CDB, WHETHER WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT OR NOT.
THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN INTERESTS OBVIOUSLY, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR INTERESTS TOO.
BECAUSE WE INVITED THEM IN LOUISVILLE CENTERS AND THEY FELT LIKE THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE.
>> I THINK THEY LIKED THAT THERE'S A GRANT PROFESSIONAL HERE THAT THEY CAN TALK TO DIRECTLY ABOUT THE PROCESS.
I CAN COMMUNICATE WITH CHRIS AND COUNCIL AND MY PEERS ABOUT THEIR IDEAS AND THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR THEM.
>> MAYBE COULD HELP TRAVIS OUT AS WELL AS FIGURING OUT WHEN THEY ASKED WITH US.
MARTHA, HOW MANY TIMES DID WE APPLY FOR THE LIVABLE CENTER? WE DIDN'T GET ON THE FIRST TRY.
IT WAS MORE THAN ONCE BEFORE IF I YOU REMEMBER.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK.
BEFORE I CAME TO THE CITY, I WORKED IN NON-PROFIT FOR 13 YEARS.
TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT GRANTS, IT HARDLY EVER HAPPENS IF THEY COME TO US.
SO THAT'S PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY IN AND OF ITSELF.
BUT PETTY INVITED US TO BE ON THE CALL THIS LAST WEEK AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE DELIVERABLES THAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
THEY WERE SO EXCITED BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, THEY COULD SEE THE PLAN.
WE'D ALREADY HAD IT IN PLACE WITH LIVABLE CENTER, SO YOU'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME BECAUSE THE CALL IS SO QUICK.
THEY WERE AT THE TABLE, LIKE CHRIS SAID, THEY WERE PART OF THE SAC. THEY'RE EXCITED TOO.
LIKE HOW DO WE GET THIS GOING? IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU NORMALLY SEE.
>> I JUST THOUGHT LIVABLE CENTERS.
I THOUGHT WE WERE ALWAYS ON A WAITING LIST AND THEN THEY SAY, YOU'RE GOING TO BE NEXT UP.
I REMEMBER US BEING PUT ON A LIST.
THE REASON YOU'RE THINKING THAT IS BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GROUP.
IT TOOK US THREE YEARS TO ACTUALLY GET TO OUR PROJECT.
WE GOT FUNDED WAY EARLY AND THEN WAITED.
>> GOT YOU. THAT'S WHAT I RECALL.
I THINK WE HAVE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO STAFF.
GOT YOUR MARCHING ORDERS. WE'RE GOOD.
>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR STAFF FOR LOOKING AT THE VISION AND LOOKING IN TO SEE HOW DO WE MAKE ANGLETON BETTER.
WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT.
JUST LIKE CHRIS SAYS, IT IS WHAT IS, TIMING, FUNDING.
WE GOT TO FIGURE THIS ALL OUT.
>> LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO CHOOSE FROM.
>> YES, SIR. NOW WE MOVE TO THIS TITLE NUMBER 3,
[3. Discussion on the 2022-2023 Proposed Budget.]
DISCUSSION ON THE 2022, 2023, PROPOSED BUDGET. CHRIS.>> YOU ALL ASKED A BUNCH OF GREAT QUESTIONS.
BEFORE WE GET INTO ALL THE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS AGAIN, I'VE GOT TWO UPDATES FOR YOU ABOUT COLA OPTIONS AND ALSO ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT'S BEING BUILT AND HAS BEEN BUILT AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
THEN WE'LL GET BACK INTO DEPARTMENT HEADS BUDGETS AND WE'LL SEEK GUIDANCE AT THE END OF WHICH YOU-ALL WANT TO DO.
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>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. ON SATURDAY, YOU HAD ASKED US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE COST OF COLA'S AND FOUR PERCENT, FIVE PERCENT.
WHAT WE'VE CALCULATED OUT ON ONE SCENARIO IS, YOU TAKE FOUR PERCENT COLA OR THE COMPENSATION STEP RAISE, WHICHEVER IS HIGHER IS WHAT THE EMPLOYEE WOULD GET AND THAT WOULD COST ABOUT $451,000 AT FOUR PERCENT.
IF WE MOVE TO FIVE PERCENT, IT WOULD BE 506 AND THAT'S IF EVERYBODY GOT THAT ON OCTOBER 1.
IF WE WENT TO A SPLIT WE HAD DISCUSSED, INDIVIDUALS MAKING LESS THAN 50,000 AT FOUR PERCENT WOULD INCREASE BY 100 -112.
ANYONE WITH FIVE PERCENT, IT WOULD INCREASE THE BUDGET OCTOBER 1,127640.
THAT WOULD JUST BE THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
THOSE MAKING OVER 50 AT THREE PERCENT WOULD INCREASE THE BUDGET BY 143709 IF WE SPLIT IT HALF IN OCTOBER, HALF IN APRIL.
MAKING FOUR PERCENT WOULD BE 1916.3.
>> AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION POINT BECAUSE WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
IF THERE'S GUIDANCE THAT YOU SAY WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE OR CHANGE OR PERCENT OR SOME OTHER OPTIONS WE'RE OPEN TO THAT.
WE'RE JUST PRESENTING WHAT I THOUGHT WERE THE END OF THE MEETING THOUGHTS AND IT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR FURTHER STAFF ACTION.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT WE ASK FOR.
[LAUGHTER] BIG NUMBER. YES, COLLEEN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU HEARD FROM OUR PEERS, FROM OTHER CITIES TO ANYTHING YET ON, I KNOW WE JUST WENT ON SATURDAY, BUT Y'ALL HEARD ANYTHING YET AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING?
>> MOST ARE LOOKING AT LEAST A THREE.
>> AT LEAST THAT. ALSO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE COMMENT THAT THE NUMBERS I'VE GIVEN YOU ADJUST WAGES, IT'S NOT AN INCREASE IN FICA OR TMRS.
>> LIKE JACKSON [OVERLAPPING] THEY DID THEIR BUDGET LAST NIGHT OR SOMETHING.
IF YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID VERSUS PROJECTED.
>> GOT YOU. CAN YOU SEND THAT TO US AT SOME POINT?
>> LET US KNOW IF WE CAN DIGEST THOSE NUMBERS.
>> CAN YOU SEND IT IN AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET FOR ME?
>> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO SEE, TANISHA I KNOW YOU'RE BACK THERE, THE 4 PERCENT LOADED GOING ACROSS AS IT IS NOW, HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT THAT IS ON THE BUDGET? THEN THE SCENARIO ONE, 4 PERCENT CROSS THE BOARD EVERYBODY.
THEN THE ALTERNATIVE SCENARIOS AND THEN THE COMPARISONS OF THE TWO OR THE THREE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] OF COLLEEN. I'VE GOT LINDSEY.
>> IF YOU WANT LINDSEY TO GO AHEAD AND COME UP, SHE'S GOING TO BE DOING BUILDING SERVICES.
>> NO, SHE'S JUST GOING TO DO AN UPDATE REAL QUICK ON DEVELOPMENT.
>> THANK YOU, TANISHA. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
WE PUT TOGETHER AN AD HOC WORKSHEET USING ISSUED CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO GAUGE HOW MANY NEW HOMES ARE ON THE GROUND IN LAST YEAR, 2021 AND THIS YEAR, AND GET A BASELINE FOR WHAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL.
NOW REALLY TO SOLIDIFY THIS, WE'D ULTIMATELY WANT TO TAKE A COMPARISON WITH THE UTILITY ACCOUNTS JUST TO CROSS-REFERENCE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PULL THOSE ACCOUNTS.
JUST BASED OFF OF THE COS ALONE, LIKE TO GO OVER THAT WITH YOU.
IN 2021, WE ISSUED 60, AND THIS IS JUST FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMMERCIAL.
I BELIEVE THE WAY THE TAX ROLL DOES IT IS [OVERLAPPING] ON CALENDAR.
THANK YOU FOR GETTING ME TO SPECIFY THAT BECAUSE THAT CAN BE CONFUSING.
2021, 60 IS WHAT WAS ADDED AND WE ESTIMATE THAT IN THIS YEAR, WE WILL BE ADDING 270 BASED ON THE WAY CONSTRUCTION IS TRENDING WITH THE ACTIVE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT.
[NOISE] OF COURSE, WE'LL CROSS-REFERENCE THE UTILITY ACCOUNTS AND GET THAT INFORMATION TO
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YOU GUYS IN A TIMELY MANNER AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS CURRENTLY?
>> NOW THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED LOOKING FOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN BY WHAT'S PHYSICALLY ALREADY COED IT UP UNTIL TODAY AND THEN YOU DID OF COURSE YOUR ESTIMATION OF WHAT IT MAY BE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
BECAUSE WE KNOW IT COULD SLOW DOWN, IT COULD SPEED UP.
>> WITH THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND THING RIGHT NOW, THAT'S REALLY IMPACTING CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE NOTICING THE RISE AND COSTS ARE DEFINITELY HAVING AN IMPACT, BUT I DO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS ISSUED AS OF JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR IF I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THOSE.
>> FOR GREEN TRAILS, 31 OUT OF 50 HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO CO. FOR GRAY STONE, WE HAVE EIGHT.
KING SUBDIVISION OF COURSE AT THE SMALLER ONE, FOUR OF EIGHT, [INAUDIBLE] RESERVE SIX OF 48, GIFFORD MEADOWS, SEVEN OF 85.
WIND ROSE GREEN, EIGHT OF 146.
NOW THE 146, PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT IS JUST FOR PHASE 1.
>> NINETY-SIX PHASE 1, PHASE 2?
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE NONE ISSUED FOR [INAUDIBLE] AND CERTAINLY NONE FOR AUSTIN COLONIES.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AS OF HALFWAY THROUGH THE CALENDAR YEAR FOR 2022.
>> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE RISING COST OF CONSTRUCTION BUT NOT SLOWING THE CONTRACTORS NOW IN BUILDING.
>> DOESN'T SEEM TO BE IF THEY CAN GET THEIR HANDS ON MATERIALS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. I KNOW THE COSTS ARE GOING UP.
ACTUALLY, MATERIAL COSTS HAVE ACTUALLY STABLED, BUT THEY'RE MOVING. THEY'RE NOT SLOWING DOWN.
>> YEAH, LUMBER WAS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN. I THINK IT WAS SOMETIME THIS SUMMER.
>> TALKING TO DEVELOPERS AND SOME OF THE REALTORS AND THOSE FOLKS.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MORTGAGE ISSUES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW, GETTING HOUSES, GETTING QUALIFIED.
BUT THERE'S SUCH A STILL DEMAND THAT FOLKS IN THE MIDDLE AND WHATEVER ARE STILL MOVING ON.
THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO GET THOSE HOUSES BEFORE INTEREST RATES GO ANY FURTHER, OR WHAT THEY THINK ARE GOING TO GO FURTHER.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME SLOW UP IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF IT BUT OVERALL, THEY WISH THEY WERE GOING FASTER IS WHAT THEY SAY.
THE BUILDERS ARE STILL MOVING, BUT THE BUYERS ARE MOVING A LITTLE BIT SLOWER.
>> BECAUSE THEY THINK THE MARKET IS STILL THERE.
>> YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER A 3.5 PERCENT.
THREE TIMES LARGER NEXT YEAR THAN WHAT YOU HAVE THIS YEAR.
THEN TANISHA ON THE NO NEW REVENUE, WE'RE GENERATING 1.7 MILLION OR 1.2 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT 60 HOUSING, 60 PERMITS IN THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR?
>> YEAH, IT'S TRIPLE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 1.2 OR 1.7, BUT I CAN PULL IT BACK UP IN OUR EXCEL DOCUMENT.
>> IF YOU CAN FIND THE NUMBER FOR ME, PLEASE.
YOU'RE NOT DUE RIGHT NOW OR ANYTHING.
>> IF YOU'RE ALL GOOD FOR NOW, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON THE DEPARTMENT REPORTS.
>> JASON'S PULLING THAT OUT FOR ME, BUT WE HAVE JASON HE'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONE THAT'LL BE COMING UP AS FAR AS THE DEPARTMENT REPORTS ARE CONCERNED, IT'S GOING TO BE PAGE 23 ON YOUR GENERAL FUND TAB.
HE'S GOING TO BE REVIEWING THE IT.
IT DOES HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET.
A COUPLE OF THOSE ALREADY INCLUDED IN YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, BUT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON THERE.
THERE WAS A PART OF YOUR LIST THAT HAD BEEN REMOVED OUT OF YOUR GENERAL FUND.
THE NUMBERS THAT YOU DO SEE TONIGHT, ONCE AGAIN, JUST LIKE ON SATURDAY, THEY'LL HAVE THOSE REQUESTS ALREADY IN THEM, BUT YOUR BUDGET BINDER ALREADY HAS THOSE REQUESTS ALREADY REMOVED.
>> OR IT I'D LIKE TO GO TO SECOND SESSION FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.
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>> SHE'S NOT HERE, BUT SHE SAID IF WE HAVE A QUESTION, WE CAN TEXT HER.
>> WE DISCUSS IT BUT THAT'S NOT AN OPTION.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO JUST DISCUSS IT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE GENERAL FUND PROJECTS FIRST, THE LIST THERE.
AS YOU SEE, THERE ARE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 ITEMS ON THAT LIST.
SOME OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FOR EXISTING SOFTWARE AND WE CAN PULL THOSE AS NEEDED, BUT I'LL GO THROUGH THEM STARTING AT THE TOP.
AS WE'VE GROWN AS A CITY AND IT DEPARTMENT WITH TECHNOLOGY, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR IT'LL BE 15 YEARS OCTOBER, TIME FLIES.
WE'VE BUILT 15 YEARS' WORTH OF NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE, COMPUTER SERVERS, SCADA SYSTEMS. YOU NAME IT WITH TECHNOLOGY, VOICE, AND DATA.
WE BUILT THAT ESSENTIALLY FROM THE GROUND UP WHEN I STARTED, I THINK WE HAD FIVE SERVERS AT THE PD AND ONE OVER HERE AT CITY HALL.
NOW WE'RE RUNNING OVER 30 TO RUN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY.
WITH ALL OF THAT GROWTH AND WITH OUR NETWORK AND FIBER PROJECTS THAT CONNECT ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AND BUILDINGS.
THINGS THAT ARE ON OUR NETWORK, THE NUMBER OF DEVICES HAVE INCREASED.
THAT NUMBER, I GOT TO COUNT RECENTLY, IT WAS OVER 700 DEVICES ON OUR NETWORK.
THIS SAYS ASSET TRACKING SOFTWARE AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT DOES.
I CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TRACK THOSE ASSETS FOR CIP, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, I'M HAVING TO DO IT MANUALLY.
I LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE, I ASSESS IT, ITS AGE, AND THEN I RECOMMEND IT TO COUNSEL FOR BUDGET FOR REPLACEMENT OR MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST ASSET TRACKING SOFTWARE AS WELL THOUGH IT DOES SOFTWARE PATCHING.
IT MONITORS ALL OF OUR WORKSTATIONS SERVERS FOR SOFTWARE UPDATES, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT AS YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH THE HEIGHTENED SECURITY ISSUES, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND HACKERS AND ALL OF THAT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO STAY PATCHED AND UP-TO-DATE AND THIS PRODUCT WOULD ALSO MONITOR THAT AS WELL.
LET ME SEE. THEN IT ALSO DOES SOMETHING ELSE.
AS PART OF THE ASSET TRACKING, WE OFTEN ISSUE LAPTOPS AND PHONES, AND DEVICES TO EMPLOYEES.
CURRENTLY, WE'RE MANAGING THAT MANUALLY AS WELL.
WITH AS MANY EMPLOYEES AS WE HAVE WITH OUR IT STAFF, SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE, "WELL, WHAT DID THAT EMPLOYEE HAVE THERE MOVING ON? " DID THEY HAVE A LAPTOP? DO THEY HAVE A CITY-PROVIDED PHONE? DID THEY HAVE A HARDWARE VPN ROUTER TO USE? THIS SOFTWARE WOULD ALLOW US TO CHECK DEVICES OUT TO INDIVIDUAL USERS AND CREATE A WORKFLOW FOR ON-BOARDING AND OFF-BOARDING AND REMIND US, "OH HEY, THEY HAVE A CITY-PROVIDED CELL PHONE, THEY HAVE A CITY-PROVIDED LAPTOP" AND TO COLLECT THOSE THINGS.
THE $44,338 IS FOR FIVE YEARS FOR THIS SOFTWARE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO IN A LEASE TO LOWER THE COST.
ON A FIVE-YEAR LEASE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSE TO $9,000 MAYBE A LITTLE MORE.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WHETHER IT'S APPROVED IN THIS BUDGET OR NOT, WE REALLY NEED TO START LOOKING AT BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT
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FOR OUR SMALL IT DEPARTMENT TO TRACK 700 PLUS DEVICES ON OUR NETWORK.THAT IS THE QUEST CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
AFTER THE FIVE YEARS, THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE WOULD BE JUST UNDER $5,000. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> AS THE LIFESPAN OF IT, WOULDN'T BE REPLACED IN FIVE YEARS?
>> IT'S SOFTWARE, SO IT'S PERPETUAL.
IT'S SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE ESSENTIALLY.
>>YEAH, EVEN IN A SAAS MODEL, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO [NOISE] EITHER UPDATE OR RENEW.
THE LATEST AND GREATEST VERSION COMES OUT, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE AN IMPLEMENTATION COST OR YOU SWITCHED COMPLETELY TO A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE SYSTEM SO THERE'S SOME UNKNOWNS THERE IN THAT SOFTWARE, EVEN AT A FIVE-YEAR LEASE.
ESPECIALLY IN FIVE YEARS, IS ENOUGH FOR IT TO BECOME OBSOLETE THESE DAYS.
>> YES. IT IS A CLOUD-BASED SOFTWARE.
JUST LIKE WITH ANY CLOUD-BASED SERVICE, AS THEY MAKE UPDATES, CHANGES, THAT SORT OF THING, YOU GET THOSE AS PART OF YOUR MAINTENANCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON? OKAY. THE NEXT IS THE DUAL AUTHENTICATION SOFTWARE FOR $5,900.
THAT IS OUR DUAL-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE USING TO AUTHENTICATE USERS AND PATROL CARS AND USERS WHO ARE USING COMPUTERS REMOTELY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY IMPLEMENTED AND HAS BEEN IN PLACE LAST YEAR SO THAT'S JUST THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE ON THAT SOFTWARE.
>> THAT STILL GOT TAKEN OUT OF THE BUDGET?
>> WE TOOK OUT SOME WE'RE ALREADY DOING.
>> YEAH. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOSE IN THIS LIST.
>> WHAT'S THE REASON FOR TAKING IT OUT? IS IT DOLLARS OR WAS IT NEEDED SOMEWHERE ELSE?
>> NO. THE REASON FOR [INAUDIBLE]
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT MICROPHONE THERE, I THINK.
>> PART OF THE REASON I'VE TAKEN IT OUT AND LIKE HE SAID, IF THAT WAS A MAINTENANCE ITEM THAT WE WERE ALREADY SPENDING MONEY ON EVERY YEAR, THAT'S JUST MY ERROR WHERE I WOULD JUST WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET WAS LIKE, WE HAVE THESE LARGE ITEMS I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM LET ME TAKE THEM OUT AND IF WE NEED TO PUT THEM BACK IN WE CAN PUT THEM IN.
BUT THAT WAS JUST A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF ME GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT THAT EXPENSE DETAIL AND SAYING, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT MAKE UP THAT AMOUNT.
ABSOLUTELY, WE NEED TO PUT IT BACK IN BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY EXPENSING IT.
WE CAN PUT IT BACK IN BUT THERE WAS NO [OVERLAPPING]
>> ABSOLUTELY. [INAUDIBLE] JUST REQUIREMENTS WE NEED TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
>> DO YOU HAVE SOME OTHER ABSOLUTES ON HER, JASON, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE?
>> LET'S HIT THOSE REAL QUICK.
>> ACTUALLY, SOFTWARE ONLINE LICENSES FOR MAPPING, THAT IS OUR ARCGIS SOFTWARE THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT USES TO MAP WHETHER IT'S SEWER, UTILITIES, STREETS, THE PD MAPS, ALL OF THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT USED TO BE IN PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET THAT'S NOW BEEN MOVED OVER TO IT BUDGET BECAUSE IT AFFECTS EVERY DEPARTMENT.
>> THE IT SPAM PHISHING FILTER.
THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD YEAR FOR THAT.
THAT JUST PROTECTS US AND CATCHES THOSE SPAM AND PHISHING E-MAILS.
THAT'S OUR BARRACUDA SOFTWARE.
THE CITY BOUGHT SOFTWARE WHICH WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING NOW.
THAT'S THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE ON THAT, THAT 15,000.
THAT ONE NEED TO BE IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
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THAT'S IT FOR THOSE ITEMS. THE IT SQL SERVER LICENSE.WE DID THAT THIS YEAR SO WE'RE GOOD WE CAN MARK THAT OFF THE LIST.
BACK TO NEW ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET.
THE THIRD-PARTY INTERNET SECURITY TESTS.
THEY WILL TEST OUR NETWORK FROM THE OUTSIDE TO SEE WHERE OUR VULNERABILITIES ARE FOR NETWORK SECURITY.
THEN THEY'LL GIVE US A REPORT AND THEN WE CAN PATCH THOSE AND WE RETEST AGAIN TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.
I DO HAVE A NEW IT EMPLOYEE, JOSIAH, WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO SCHOOL FOR NETWORK SECURITY, AND HE FEELS CONFIDENT THAT HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN THAT TEST FOR US AFTER A LITTLE BIT MORE OF STUDY.
BUT HE SAID PROBABLY BY OCTOBER HE SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON HOLD, SEE IF THAT WORKS OUT FOR US, AND THEN RECONSIDER NEXT YEAR.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO EVENTUALLY, WHETHER HE DOES IT OR WE CONTRACT OUT FOR BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE DETERMINE WHETHER WE'RE VULNERABLE.
>> RIGHT. NOW, THE $30,000 FOR DARKTRACE NETWORK SECURITY APPLIANCE.
I WISH I COULD SHOW YOU A DEMO OF THIS BUT THIS SPEAKS BACK TO THOSE 700 DEVICES THAT ARE ON THE NETWORK.
THIS APPLIANCE SITS ON OUR NETWORK, IT MONITORS EVERY DEVICE THAT IS ON IT WHETHER IT'S A CELL PHONE OR A COMPUTER, OR A NETWORK SWITCH, OR EVEN A NETWORK PRINTER.
IT MAKES SURE THAT OUR NETWORK IS SECURE.
BUT IT'S LIKE YOUR DVR AT YOUR HOUSE.
YOU'RE WATCHING TV, YOU MISS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO REWIND AND SEE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES FOR OUR NETWORK.
IT'S CONSTANTLY RECORDING ACTIVITY ON OUR NETWORK.
IF WE WERE TO HAVE A BREACH, I WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL IT UP JUST LIKE A DVR AND IT SHOWS YOU IN A GRAPHIC INTERFACE.
THIS IS WHERE THE RANSOMWARE STARTED, IT STARTED TOUCHING ALL THESE DEVICES, IT SHUT IT DOWN AND WE CAUGHT IT BEFORE IT CAUSED TOO MUCH TROUBLE.
THEN I CAN GENERATE A REPORT AND GIVE THAT TO THE FBI.
WE CAN REMEDIATE AND WE'RE DONE IN A MATTER OF PROBABLY HOURS VERSUS IF WE HAD A RANSOMWARE ATTACK AND WE HAD TO MANUALLY SHUT THE ENTIRE NETWORK DOWN.
EVERYONE IS OUT OF WORK, GO COMPUTER TO COMPUTER TO FIND WHERE IT STARTED, PULL THE LOGS FROM THAT COMPUTER, FIGURE OUT WHAT IT TOUCHED ON SERVERS, PULL LOGS FROM SERVERS, WHICH COULD TAKE DAYS AND WEEKS TO REMEDIATE.
THIS DARKTRACE NETWORK SECURITY APPLIANCE, IT IS AN ANNUAL FEE AND IT'S HUGE.
BUT I THINK IF YOU THINK OF THE COST OF WHAT IT WOULD COST A CITY IF WE WERE DOWN FOR WEEKS, IT'S EASILY GOING TO BE MORE THAN $30,000.
>> DARKTRACE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT I KNOW OF THAT ARE DOING THE DVR FEATURE THAT CAPTURES THE LOGS AND CAN GENERATE THE REPORT, AND THEY WILL ALSO PROVIDE A SUPPORT TEAM FOR REMEDIATION.
IT HELPS US GET BACK UP ONLINE AND GOING A LOT FASTER.
THEIR SOFTWARE WILL ACTUALLY CATCH THE RANSOMWARE OR THREAT AT THE NETWORK LEVEL AND STOP IT AND THE USER CAN ACTUALLY KEEP WORKING, KEEP USING THEIR COMPUTER, AND IT WILL CATCH THE THREAT.
THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT I KNOW OF THAT DO THAT AT THE NETWORK LEVEL AND MONITOR EVERY DEVICES.
I FORGET THE NAME OF THE CITY, BUT THERE WAS A CITY WHO PURCHASED SOME USED RECEIPT PRINTERS THAT WERE NETWORK-BASED.
WELL, THEY PLUGGED THEM INTO THEIR NETWORK AND THEY LET SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE INTO THEIR NETWORK BECAUSE THOSE PRINTERS FIRMWARE HAD BEEN HACKED.
HAVING SOMETHING LIKE DARKTRACE IT'S THOSE EYES ON THE NETWORK THAT I CAN SIT AND WATCH THE NETWORK TRAFFIC ALL DAY TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THIS DOES THAT AND THIS WOULD CATCH A THREAT LIKE THAT.
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THAT'S DARKTRACE.>> CAN I ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION ON THIS?
>> I UNDERSTAND YOU LIKE THE DVR FUNCTIONALITY OF THE DARKTRACE, BUT THE RUNNER UP WHO WOULD THAT BE AND HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST?
>> I'VE LOOKED AT THREE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS AND THEY'RE ALL RIGHT THERE BETWEEN 15 AND $30,000.
I THINK THE CHEAPEST WAS AROUND 15, AND IT WAS MORE ENDPOINT BASED WHERE YOU INSTALL A CLIENT SOFTWARE ON EVERY COMPUTER, EVERY WORKSTATION, AND DID NOT NECESSARILY MONITOR DEVICES LIKE SWITCHES, PRINTERS, AND THAT THING.
THE DARKTRACE IS MORE OF AN ALL-INCLUSIVE APPLIANCE AND SOFTWARE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> PROBABLY ASK YOU A LOT MORE GOING ON.
[LAUGHTER] I'M JUST GOING TO STOP.
>> IT'S REALLY COOL. IT'S A REALLY COOL SOFTWARE.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IF I HAD TO SPEND WEEKS JUST TRYING TO PULL LOGS TO GIVE TO THE FBI, WE COULD BE OUT OF COMMISSION FOR AWHILE WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO REMEDIATE.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO MANAGE THE NETWORK IN THAT TYPE OF A SITUATION.
PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD DO NOW WOULD BE JUST SET UP ALL THE NETWORK PORTS TO EVERYTHING.
THAT WAY WE CAN REMEDIATE BECAUSE IF YOU JUST TELL USERS GET OFF THEIR COMPUTER, STAY OFF THEIR COMPUTER, EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO NEED SOMETHING AND TRY TO LOG BACK IN AND THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD REMEDIATION IS TO MAKE SURE EVERY PC IS CLEAN.
WE HAVE BEEN USING CYLANCE FOR ENDPOINT PROTECTION AND IT HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB.
I'VE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO WANT US TO SWITCH ANTIVIRUS PROVIDERS.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CYLANCE DID THAT REALLY BLEW ME AWAY WHEN WE FIRST SWITCHED TO THEM BACK WHEN DAVID STEVE WAS HERE, WAS THEY SET UP A VIRTUAL MACHINE IN A SECURE ENVIRONMENT AND THEY LAUNCHED A SCRIPT THAT HAD OVER 100 VIRUSES, RANSOMWARES ALL OF THAT, ON THAT COMPUTER AND CYLANCE CAUGHT IT.
THAT'S BEEN MY REFERENCE POINT EVER SINCE, AND TALKING WITH THESE OTHER PROVIDERS JUST FOR ENDPOINT PROTECTION ANTIVIRUS, I'LL CONSIDER SWITCHING BUT I WANT TO SEE A DEMO OF YOUR SOFTWARE AND I WANT TO SEE YOU UNLEASH VIRUSES ONTO A VIRTUAL MACHINE AND LET'S SEE IF YOUR PRODUCT CATCHES IT.
BECAUSE CYLANCE HAS BEEN THAT GOOD FOR US AND WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
WE HAVE GOOD PROTECTION WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
THE PIECE THAT WE DON'T HAVE IS EYES INTO WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE NETWORK.
WE HAVE SOME WITH OUR FIREWALL, BUT IT'S LIMITED TO WHAT WE TELL IT TO BLOCK AND WHAT WE TELL IT TO DON'T BLOCK.
WHEREAS, THIS IS AI AND IT'S LOOKING FOR SOFTWARE THAT'S TRYING TO MANIPULATE FILES AND COMPUTERS ON YOUR NETWORK AND DEVICES.
>> DO YOU THINK YOU CAN FIND US THE NEXT LEVEL DOWN?
>> I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER [OVERLAPPING] ALTERNATIVES THAT I LOOKED AT SURE.
OR, I CAN GO BACK TO DARKTRACE AND SAY, LOOK, I LOVE YOUR PRODUCT, BUT FOR OUR SIZE OF THE CITY, THIS PRICING DOESN'T FIT AND SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH.
>> IT'S THE ONCE YOU GO THERE.
>>IT IS, AND I DO HAVE A HARD TIME SPENDING LARGE CHUNKS OF MONEY, ESPECIALLY ANNUALLY TO REPLACE HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE OR WHATEVER.
I'M VERY CONSCIOUS ABOUT THAT AND I TELL VENDORS ALL THE TIME.
I'M LIKE, LOOK, WE'RE A SMALL TOWN AND YOU'RE ASKING ME TO SPEND $100,000 TO REPLACE SERVERS.
I SHOULD BE DOING THIS EVERY SEVEN YEARS, 10 YEARS TOPS, AND THAT'S $10,000 A YEAR.
I DO HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THAT, SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION, 100%.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME. IT'S STATING THE OBVIOUS HERE.
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TECHNOLOGY IS BECOMING MORE IMPORTANT IN THE WORKPLACE, SO IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT ABOUT.>> THE $110,000 IS FOR REPLACING THE AGING SERVERS AND HOST.
I LOOKED AT THAT, WE COULD PROBABLY GET AWAY WITHOUT REPLACING THE HOST AND JUST REPLACING THE STORAGE.
THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE WERE HOPING TO GET GRANT-FUNDED AND THOSE GRANTS DID NOT COME THROUGH.
BUT OUR STORAGE FOR THE CITY, ALL THE SERVERS OF THE CITY, IS GETTING UP THERE IN AGE, AND IS OUT OF SUPPORT.
I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THEY CALL ACTIVE, ACTIVE.
IT'S A SINGLE SERVER UNIT THAT HAS TO LIVE EVERYTHING.
IF ONE SIDE GOES DOWN, THE OTHER SIDE KEEPS ROCKING AND ROLLING AND YOU CAN REPLACE THAT PART.
THAT SOFTWARE VENDOR THROUGH COVID AND BECAUSE OF THE CHIP SHORTAGE CALLED ME AND SAID, "HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RENEW YOUR SUPPORT BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THE CHIPS FOR".
IT'S PROBABLY, RIGHT AROUND 6, 7 YEARS OF AGE, WHICH IS ABOUT TIME FOR A REPLACEMENT.
THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I TOLD THE VENDOR $100,000, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SPENDING $10,000 A YEAR FOR STORAGE FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE.
BUT, THIS QUOTE HERE IS ACTUALLY STORAGE SERVERS AND ALSO HOSTS, WHICH ARE THE PROCESSING POWER AND THE MEMORY.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO REPLACE ONE HOST, A YEAR.
WE HAVE THREE, AND SO I TRIED TO REPLACE ONE A YEAR TO GET US UP TO DATE ON THERE.
WE HAVE 2 HOSTS THAT ARE CURRENT.
ALL THREE OF THEM HAVE SUPPORT.
ONE OF THEM IS AGING AND PROBABLY COULD EASILY LAST ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE IT'S REPLACED.
SO I FEEL COMFORTABLE STICKING WITH THREE HOSTS SERVERS THAT WE HAVE.
BUT, LIKE I SAID WITH THE STORAGE, THAT'S BECOMING MORE OF A CRITICAL ISSUE BECAUSE OF LACK OF SUPPORT.
THE QUOTE THAT I GOT FROM DELL ON STORAGE ALONE WAS RIGHT AT $44,000.
>> DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO GO TO A CLOUD-BASED?
>> I'VE LOOKED AT CLOUD-BASED STORAGE, AND PROCESSING BECAUSE LAST TIME YOU WILL ASK ME THAT AS A COUNCIL, I DUG INTO IT AND RESEARCHED IT.
IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
>> OVER WHAT TIME [NOISE] SPEND? [OVERLAPPING] ANNUAL OR.
IF YOU BROKE DOWN THE COST OF PURCHASING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS VERSUS ESSENTIALLY LEASING CLOUD STORAGE, OR PROCESSING ON ANNUAL BASIS, IT WAS CHEAPER TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE.
>> BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE ALL THESE SERVERS ALL THE TIME, RIGHT?
>> NO. I MEAN, THE SERVER HARDWARE IS GOOD FOR 5-7 YEARS.
I LIKE TO PUSH IT AND GET THAT EXTRA SEVEN.
DELL WILL WARRANTY A SERVER FOR 7 YEARS.
THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY FOR THIRD-PARTY WARRANTIES, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE ON SOME OF OUR OLDER EQUIPMENT, IS THAT THIRD-PARTY WARRANTY.
BUT DELL WILL WARRANTY A SERVER FOR 7 YEARS.
BEYOND THAT EASILY THE HARDWARE BECOMES THE END OF LIFE TYPICALLY.
>> WHAT DO YOU DO IF THIS DOESN'T GO ON THE BUDGET?
>> HOPE AND PRAY. [LAUGHTER]. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT BECAUSE THAT THE CURRENT STORAGE SERVER WE HAVE IS THE PIVOT THREE STORAGE SERVER.
LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE NOT SUPPORTING IT ANYMORE.
>> ARE THERE THINGS YOU PROPOSED TO US, NOT THE ONES THAT WERE IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR, BUT THE ONES WHICH YOU FORESEE AS BEING NECESSARY FOR THE FUTURE? RANK THEM FOR ME.
>> OKAY. WELL, I WOULD PUT THE STORAGE SERVER UP AT THE TOP, AND THAT'S $44,000.
>> IT'S THE ONE THAT, ITS MAINTENANCE COSTS ANNUALLY IS NOT?
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>> NO. THAT'S A ONE-TIME AND THEN THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE WARRANTY IS USUALLY BETWEEN $1,500 TO $2,000 A YEAR.
>> THEN, PROBABLY THE DARKTRACE WOULD BE NEXT.
>> THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S ROUGHLY RIGHT NOW, 30,000 THE ANNUAL FEE ABOUT [OVERLAPPING]
THEN PROBABLY PINHOLE TESTING AND THEN, THE ASSET TRACKING, WELL, I WOULD BUMP ASSET TRACKING, THAT WOULD BE THIRD.
THEN THE PINHOLE TESTING, OF COURSE, WOULD BE FOURTH.
I'M SORRY, I FORGOT TO INCLUDE EARLIER, BUT THE PURCHASE OF NEW PCS, THE $12,000 THAT IS MY 555625 LINE ITEM, WHICH IS WHAT THE IT DEPARTMENT OPERATES OUT OF AS NEW EMPLOYEES COME ON, WE NEED NEW COMPUTERS OR COMPUTER BREAKS DURING THE YEAR, [NOISE] THAT'S WHERE I PULLED THOSE FUNDS FROM, SO THAT MINIMUM OF 12,000 IS NECESSARY.
I SHOULD HAVE MARKED MY PAPER BETTER AS WELL, I DIDN'T SEE THE IT SERVER DOWN HERE AS WELL.
I CAN EXPLAIN THAT REAL QUICK.
IT WOULD BE LOWER ON THE OUTPUT THAN PROBABLY FIFTH OF THE IT SERVER.
THAT SERVER IS FOR OUR VIGILANCE, SECURITY CAMERAS.
THEREFORE, EACH, I THINK EACH ONE OF THEM HAS 32 CAMERAS EACH, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE MAXIMUM DATA A SINGLE SERVER CAN RUN.
MY OPINION ON THAT IS, AN APPLIANCE AND RUN IT UNTIL YOU CAN'T REPAIR IT ANYMORE.
WE DO HAVE MAINTENANCE ON BOTH OF THOSE EVEN THOUGH THOSE TWO SERVERS ARE OLD, SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD RANK THAT LOW ON THE LIST, I COULD LIVE WITHOUT THAT ANOTHER YEAR.
BUT IT DOES PROHIBIT US FROM ADDING MORE CAMERAS, SO WE GET A NEW BUILDING, THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED SECURITY CAMERAS AND A SERVER AT THAT TIME FOR SURE.
JUST TO RECAP, NUMBER 1, STORAGE SERVER, TWO, DARK TRACE, THREE, ASSET TRACKING SOFTWARE, FOUR, INTERNET SECURITY TESTS, AND FIVE, THE SECURITY CAMERA SERVER.
>> RUN IT BACK ONE MORE TIME, JASON, SLOWLY. ONE IS WHAT?
>> REPLACING THE AGING SERVERS AND HOST AT $44,000 INSTEAD OF 110.
>> TWO, IS THE DARK TRACE AT $30,000.
>> POSSIBLY COULD BE NEGOTIATED LOWER.
THREE, WHICH IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST WITH 44,338, FIVE-YEAR ASSET TRACKING SOFTWARE, WHICH COULD POSSIBLY BE LEASED FOR 9,000-10,000 A YEAR.
THEN FOUR WOULD BE THE THIRD-PARTY INTERNET SECURITY TESTING, THE PINHOLE TESTING, AND THEN FIVE WOULD BE THE IT SERVER FOR VIGILANT CAMERAS.
>> A HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE THOUSAND?
>> CUMULATIVE [NOISE] IS IT CUMULATIVE?
>> DO YOU HAVE AN OPERATING PLAN FOR YOUR IT FIVE-YEAR PLAN OF WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING?
>> I DO NOT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ME AND ONE OTHER PERSON AND THERE HAS BEEN ZERO TIME.
NOW THAT I DO HAVE IT STAFF, AGAIN, THAT FIVE-YEAR PLAN, HAVING THAT ASSET TRACKING SOFTWARE IS WHAT I'LL NEED TO DO IT ACCURATELY.
I REALLY AM LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THERE TO WHERE WE HAVE A PLAN.
SEVEN YEARS WE'RE REPLACING THESE SERVERS.
FIVE YEARS WE'RE REPLACING THESE COMPUTERS AND GET ON A ROTATION AND BE ABLE TO SEE ACTUAL NUMBERS FOR THE DEPARTMENT LONG-TERM. THAT'S THE GOAL.
>> THE ASSET TRACKING ONE. THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, FIVE YEARS?
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>> YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN GET THEM TO WHERE WE'RE LEASING IT OVER FIVE YEARS?
>> WE WOULD PURCHASE THAT THROUGH CDWG AND THEY HAVE FINANCING OPTIONS.
>> CAN YOU GET BACK TO US WITH WHAT THEY HAVE? [OVERLAPPING]
BACK TO YOUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN, THREE-YEAR PLAN, 10-YEAR PLAN.
THAT IS HAVING THAT SOFTWARE AND BEING ABLE TO CALCULATE THAT SO THAT I CAN MAKE A MORE EDUCATED DECISION FOR MY DEPARTMENT.
MAYBE IT MAKES MORE SENSE INSTEAD OF BUYING THIS STORAGE SERVER OUTRIGHT, WE LEASE IT, AND THEN WE AUTOMATICALLY REPLACE IT EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SEVEN YEARS.
DEFINITELY, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.
SAME THING WITH NETWORK SWITCHING.
WE BOUGHT OUR PHONE SYSTEM A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, GREG SMITH WAS HERE, SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
THAT EQUIPMENT, WE'VE REPLACED PIECES OF IT HERE AND THERE.
BUT IT'S ALSO AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY BE LOOKING AT LEASING BECAUSE THAT DOES BECOME END-OF-LIFE EVERY 5-7 YEARS AS WELL.
IT'S SOMETHING WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE AND LEASING MAYBE A CHEAPER OPTION, AND WE GET NEW HARDWARE AT THE END OF THE LEASE.
>> THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HERE, ARE THESE THINGS MOVABLE AND LITERALLY, CAN YOU MOVE THEM TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION IF WE WERE TO ASK YOU TO MOVE THEM TO?
>> I'LL TELL YOU THAT MY OPINION AS A NON-IT GUY IS THAT PINHOLE TESTING IS PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY BECAUSE IT SEES WHAT YOUR VULNERABILITY.
I THINK THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PIECE IS PROBABLY THE SECOND BECAUSE THAT HELPS YOU DEVELOP YOUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND YOUR SIP AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
>> I LIKED THE PANEL TESTING AND THE $2,500 PRICE RANGE.
>> THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS OUT THERE YOU CAN DO TO REALLY BE [INAUDIBLE] YOUR SYSTEM.
JUST HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND? THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE.
RISK MANAGEMENT, THAT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO DO ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
>> THERE ARE SO MANY COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT WANT YOUR BUSINESS TO DO THESE THINGS.
JUST HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND AND WHAT'S THE REWARD?
>> WHEN CHRIS BROUGHT DUSTIN DOWN TO SPEAK TO US, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT HE MADE IS THIS, YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING TWO PERCENT OF YOUR BUDGET.
I DON'T THINK I'M ANYWHERE NEAR TWO PERCENT [LAUGHTER] OF THE BUDGET IN IT.
OUR BUDGET IS ACTUALLY PRETTY SMALL.
>> WHAT IS IT? UP TO ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE AN ORGANIZED IT DEPARTMENT.
WE HAD YOU AND STEVE IN THE POLICE STATION. THAT WAS IT.
>> WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE YOU, I WILL BRING THAT.
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> BUT I THINK JOHN, TO YOUR POINT, RISK IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST.
IF WE CAN IDENTIFY FROM THE OUTSIDE WHAT OUR RISKS ARE, WE CAN TAKE RISKS ON SERVER IS GOING TO LAST SIX YEARS VERSUS FIVE, AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS ACQUIRE A SERVER MORE OR LESS ON THE SPOT.
BUT AGAIN, EVERY CONFERENCE I'VE BEEN TO, WHETHER IT'S TCMA, TML, IT'S ALL ABOUT MITIGATING RISKS FOR CYBERSECURITY.
TO ME AGAIN, THE PINHOLE TEST IS AN EASY WAY, VERY INEXPENSIVE WAY TO AT LEAST GAUGE YOURSELF PERIODICALLY.
IT'S RELATIVELY CHEAP COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
>> THAT DOES IT FOR THE EQUIPMENT, RIGHT?
>> IF WE WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE BUDGET SIDE?
>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] SHOULD WE LEAVE THE EMPLOYEE REQUESTS IN THIS PIECE? GREAT. STARTING OUT WITH EMPLOYEES, ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT I'M REQUESTING FOR IS A GIS SPECIALIST.
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IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT GIS MEANS, THAT'S A GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM.IT CREATES, MANAGES, ANALYSES AND MAPS ALL TYPES OF DATA.
THIS INFORMATION PROVIDES A FOUNDATION FOR MAPPING AND ANALYSIS AND IT'S USED IN DAILY PLANNING AND PROCEDURES.
THIS IS THE RGIS SOFTWARE THAT'S FUNDED IN THE BUDGET CURRENTLY.
THIS WOULD BE A SPECIALIST THAT FOCUSED ON THAT SOFTWARE AND HELPED US OUT IN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, WHETHER IT'S PD, BUILDING SERVICES, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND PUBLIC WORKS, EVEN IT.
PD, ONE OF THE BIG NEEDS RIGHT NOW FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS MAP UPDATES.
WE HAVE SO MUCH GROWTH IN THE CITY, WE HAVE OF NEW SUBDIVISIONS COMING IN, NEW STREETS BEING BUILT, WHICH MEANS NEW ADDRESS POINTS.
CURRENTLY WE ARE LACKING BEHIND IN UPDATING THE MAPS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD SOMEONE IN THAT POSITION TO DO THAT SINCE DAVID STEVES LEFT.
FOR AWHILE, WE DIDN'T HAVE VERY MUCH GROWTH SO IT WASN'T AS BIG OF AN ISSUE.
BUT NOW WITH ALL THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS COMING ON, IT IS VERY MUCH A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
WHAT THIS PERSON WOULD DO FOR THE PD IS DRAW THOSE STREETS.
AS OUR CITY LIMITS CHANGE, THEY WOULD INCREASE THAT AS WELL.
OF COURSE, ACCORDING TO ORDINANCE, THAT'S MORE PROBABLY MORE BUILDING SERVICES, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL, AS FAR AS BOUNDARIES AND THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT THE PD ALSO USES IT FOR THEIR DDX, THE DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO CRIME AND TRAFFIC SAFETY.
WHEN ONESMUS WAS HERE HE IMPLEMENTED THAT PROGRAM.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
THEY USE THE GIS SYSTEM TO GENERATE THOSE MAPS WITH THOSE HOTSPOTS.
THEY KNOW WE NEED TO PATROL THESE AREAS MORE OFTEN.
THIS PERSON WOULD HELP FACILITATE AND GENERATING THE DDX MAPPING.
FOR BUILDING SERVICES, IT WOULD BE USED TO UPDATE PLANNING AND ZONING MAPS AND DISTRICTS.
AGAIN, STREET ADDRESSING, MAP UTILITIES, STORM SEWER, FIRE HYDRANTS, MANHOLES, DRAINAGE DISTRICT INFORMATION, FLOODPLAIN MAPPING, SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, ANNEXATION, AS-BUILT DRAWINGS.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COULD USE IT.
FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WASTE CONNECTIONS RESPONDED TO THE DEBRIS CLEANUPS, YOU HAD ACCESS TO A CITY MAP.
WE COULD EASILY GIVE THEM WORK, A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS AND THIS PERSON WOULD MANAGE THAT RELATIONSHIP.
IT'S ALSO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP UP WITH PERMITTING AND ZONING CHANGES AS THEY OCCUR, AS YOU GUYS APPROVE THEM.
WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING TO GO TO HDR FOR THAT.
SOMETIMES THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DELAY WHEN WE GET IT AND THEN THEY GET IT OR IT'S APPROVED AND THEN THEY GET IT, THERE'S A DELAY WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY PUT ON THE MAP.
SOMETIMES THERE CAN BE ISSUES, SOMETIMES THINGS FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS.
HAVING AN IN-HOUSE PERSON WOULD HELP WITH THAT.
THEN PUBLIC WORKS WOULD USE IT FOR UTILITY LOCATES.
THEY CURRENTLY MAPPED OUT FIRE HYDRANTS AND STORM SEWERS AND THOSE TYPES OF UTILITIES.
THIS PERSON WOULD HELP ALL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS FASTER.
CHRIS, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?
>> RIGHT NOW IT'S AN ADDITIONAL DUTY FOR EACH OF THE SECTIONS.
IF YOU'RE A PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU GET PLANS FOR FREEDOM PARK WELL REMEDIATION, THAT'S ON PUBLIC WORKS TO PUT THAT IN THE GIS.
AGAIN, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL THING FOR THEM TO DO.
AS YOU SAW, I THINK ESSENTIALLY THE AUSTIN TOWN SURVEY, NOW THAT'S JUST COMING OUT DIGITAL AND WE NEED TO HAVE ONE PLACE TO STORE IT SO THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY GO TO AN INSPECTION OR THEY GO TO VISIT, THEY'VE GOT THE PLANS WITH THEM ON A TABLET OR SOME OTHER AUTOMATED PLACE INSTEAD OF CARRYING SOME ROLLED UP PLANS OR GETTING SOMEONE EMAIL IT TO THEM, THE PICK OUT WITH THEM IN THE FIELD.
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IT'S JUST THE WAY OUR WORLD IS GOING THAT'S VERY DIGITAL.>> THE SPREADSHEET THAT WE GOT THE OTHER DAY WITH THE NEW POSITIONS, IS THAT ONE OF THOSE ON HERE? IS THAT THE IT ANALYSTS SPOT? WHAT CREDENTIALS IS THIS PERSON GOING TO HAVE? I KNOW A COMPUTER BACKGROUND, BUT THERE ARE THINGS SPECIFIC.
IS THIS PERSON GOING TO BE EASY TO FIND, IT IS GOING TO BE HARD TO FIND?
>> IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO FIND BECAUSE OF WHERE OUR SALARIES STARTS, BECAUSE WE'RE A SMALLER CITY.
>> BUT I THINK WE CAN OFFER A HEALTHY ENOUGH AMOUNT TO GET SOMEONE WITH SOME EXPERIENCE IN ARCGIS.
THAT'S REALLY THE KEY PIECE OF SOFTWARE THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO KNOW IN THE ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATION WHETHER IT'D BE A BUILDING SERVICES SIDE OR A PUBLIC WORKS SIDE, WOULD REALLY BE BONUS BECAUSE IT'S SIMILAR TO DRAWING IN AUTOCAD.
REALLY, THAT'S THE TECHNICAL SKILL THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE IS THE ARCGIS EXPERIENCE.
>> DO WE DO WE OWN OUR OWN GIS SYSTEM OR WE LEASING IT OR?
>> ITS ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, WE JUST PAY ANNUALLY AND THEN WE HAVE ACCESS. IT'S CLOUD-BASED.
>> WHAT DOES HDR HAVE TO DO WITH IT?
>> CURRENTLY, HDR IS MAKING ALL THESE UPDATES TO PLANNING, TO DESIGNING MAPS.
LINDSAY YOU COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO MORE WITH WHAT HDR IS INVOLVED.
BUT THEY'VE BEEN HELPING US CURRENTLY WITH THE PD MAP TO TRY TO GET THESE NEW SUBDIVISIONS PUT ON THE MAP, THE NEW STREETS DRAWN, THE NEW ADDRESS POINTS PUT INTO PLACE.
GETTING US UP TO DATE WITH HDACS 911 MAPPING TO MAKE SURE OUR ADDRESS POINTS MATCH UP WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.
CURRENTLY, HDR IS HANDLING ALL OF THAT FOR US.
>> DO WE HAVE AN APPROXIMATE ANNUAL FEE THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING THEM FOR DOING THIS?
>> I DO NOT KNOW THAT, BUT I'M SURE WE COULD PROBABLY PUT THAT TOGETHER.
>> THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO COMPARE WHAT WE'RE PAYING TO OUTSOURCE THIS STUFF VERSUS WHAT WE COULD HAVE OUR OWN PERSON DO THIS STUFF FOR US?
>> I CAN DEFINITELY SEE POTENTIAL SAVING AND HAVING SOMEONE IN-HOUSE RATHER THAN CONTRACTING IT OUT FOR EACH JOB AND THEN TIME'S SAVED.
>> WHEN YOU SET UP CRITERIA FOR WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO WHEN A NEW SET OF PLANS OR SUBDIVISION OR SOMETHING GETS PREPARED, IT HAS TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU IN A MANNER THAT YOU CAN IMPORT IT INTO THE GI SYSTEM WITHOUT MUCH MANIPULATION.
THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO IN ENGINEERING FIELD NOW, IS DRAW THESE DRAWINGS SO THAT IT CAN BE UPLOADED RIGHT INTO YOUR SYSTEM.
MEANT TO MODIFY THE LINES OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S THERE.
>> WITH ARCGIS YOU CAN IMPORT PDFS.
IF YOU HAVE A PDF SET OF PLANS FOR A SUBDIVISION, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE WAY DOUG WAS DOING IT.
IS HE'D IMPORT THE PDF, PLACE IT ON THE MAP TO SCALE WHERE IT BELONGS.
THEN HE WOULD DRAW THE LINES OVER THE TOP OF THAT PDF SO TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS.
>> LET'S COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME REAL COSTS THAT WE SPENT MONEY WITH HDR.
>> MOVING RIGHT ALONG, I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED ALL THE OTHER ADS.
I THINK THAT WAS THE BIG ONE WAS THE ADDITION OF THE EMPLOYEE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR IT?
>> IS BIGGEST PIECE IS APPLIED STUFF.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ROUTES THAT WILL PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE MOST PART OF YOUR FLAT.
>> IS THAT IT FOR YOU? ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT, JACKSON?
>> ALL RIGHT, SIR. WHO'S NEXT ON THE PODIUM?
>> IT'S ON THE LIST, HAD IT SOMEWHERE.
>> NEXT WE DO HAVE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND MS. LINDSAY WILL BE PRESENTING THAT TONIGHT.
IT'S GOING TO BE PAGE 23 ON YOUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET BOOK.
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>> THANK YOU TANISHA. WHILE WE'VE KICKED THIS ALL OFF TONIGHT, CHLOE WAS ABLE TO PULL THE UTILITY ACCOUNT NUMBERS TO THE FIGURES I GAVE YOU EARLIER ON THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTED HOMES AND OF THE 213 APPROXIMATELY WE'VE HAD SINCE 2020, 186 ARE OCCUPIED.
THAT'S PRETTY TELLING. ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO CLOSE THAT CIRCLE WITH YOU BEFORE I MOVE ON TO PAGE 23 OF THE GENERAL FUND IN YOUR PACKETS.
WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT IS A RELATIVELY FLAT BUDGET, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES HERE.
PRETTY MUCH THE INCREASES THAT YOU WILL SEE ARE RELATED TO, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE THE SALARIES ACROSS THE BOARD, THE FOUR PERCENT UNTIL WE'RE TOLD OTHERWISE.
THAT'S JUST FOR A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE NEW ADDITIONS, BUT REALLY, WE'VE DOWN SKILLED IN OUR OVERTIME.
I THINK THAT WE'VE LOCKED THAT DOWN TO WHERE WE'RE NOT SPENDING AS MUCH THERE.
WE'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS FOR RISING COSTS AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, SUCH AS OUR JANITORIAL AGREEMENTS AND LEGAL FEES, ENGINEERING FEES.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE PRESENTING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF MATERIAL DIFFERENCE.
BEN, I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER ANY PORTION OF IT WITH YOU.
>> SOFTWARE AND TECHNOLOGY 16,000 ADDITIONAL NEW LINE ITEM.
>> YES. ON THE MAY 24TH MEETING, YOU GUYS APPROVED AN INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND THAT'S WITH THE MY GOVERNMENT ONLINE SOFTWARE.
THE 16,000 IS WHAT I'M REQUESTING.
I'M NOT CONFIDENT THAT WE USE THE WHOLE THING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW.
THE COST THAT WOULD BE INCURRED TO US ARE THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING OF THE INDIVIDUALS WITH THE COMPANY WHO WOULD COME HERE FROM LOUISIANA TO GIVE US THE TRAINING AND IMPLEMENT THE SOFTWARE.
WHAT STAFF IS DOING IS ACTUALLY CREATING THE WORKFLOWS THAT THEY ARE USING TO WRITE THE SOFTWARE CUSTOMIZED TO OUR NEEDS.
IT REALLY WAS THE MOST STRATEGIC WAY TO GET THE MOST APPLICABLE, USEFUL SOFTWARE THAT WOULD BE MOST VALUE-ADDED AT THE LOWEST COST.
>> LINDSEY, I SEE UNDER SERVICES YOU HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS OF ONE ANOTHER AS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
ARE WE CAPTURING THOSE BACK, GETTING REIMBURSED FOR THOSE SOMEWHERE? YOU LOOK AND SEE IT'S THE 419 AREA, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5.
I MEAN, I SAY A YEAR-TO-DATE EXPENSE.
JUST QUESTIONS TO GET RECAPTURED SOMEWHERE.
>> I'D REALLY LIKE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE MAYOR.
THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE GOAL IS TO RECUPERATE FEES.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SUBSIDIZE FOR ANY COSTS PER THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET YOU SOME CONCRETE NUMBERS IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
>> BECAUSE IT STUCK OUT BECAUSE IT SETS WHERE THE COUNTY WELL, 109,000.
>> THE COUNTY ENGINEERING FEES THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE, I BELIEVE THAT'S FOR THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR EVERY OTHER YEAR THAT TWO MILES OF ASPHALT OVERLAY.
>> WE DID ASK FOR THAT TO BE MOVED OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS BEING THAT THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF STREETS.
>> THAT'S ALL IT WAS? IT CAUGHT MY EYE BECAUSE OF THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> DEFINITELY. GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME QUESTION TOO WHEN WE INITIALLY STARTED LOOKING AT THIS.
>> JUST TO JUMP IN AND FOR THOSE COUNTY ENGINEERING FEES, I CAN DOUBLE-CHECK THE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT THE TWO-MILE RELAY THAT SHE'S SPEAKING OF, THAT IS SOMETHING SEPARATE.
IT IS PART OF PUBLIC WORKS ALREADY.
>> BUT AS FAR AS THAT, 415, USUALLY THAT'S JUST YOUR LEGAL AND PROFESSIONAL FEES THOUGH.
YEAH, WE DO BREAK IT OUT SO WHEN WE GET OUR EXPENSES FROM RANDALL LAW, IT WILL HAVE THOSE SUBJECTS ON THERE, SO WE PUT THOSE IN THE GLS THAT WE HAVE THEM FOR.
>> GOT YOU. I JUST RECALL THAT WE WOULD RECOUP SOME OF THOSE FEES THAT ASSOCIATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
>> I REALLY LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS, 110, AND WHAT THAT MAKES UP THOUGH. YOU CAN FIND OUT.
BECAUSE IF THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE,
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THEN THAT GIVES US BASICALLY, [OVERLAPPING] OUR IT STAFF.>> LINDSEY ONE OF THE PROFESSIONAL FEES WHO WERE THOSE SPENT WITH.
>> PROFESSIONAL FEES, THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY IS FOR HDR, ABOUT 112,500.
LAST YEAR WE HAD A $100,000 APPROVED.
I BUMPED IT UP 12.5% JUST IN THE OFF CHANCE THAT WE END UP NEEDING THAT EXTRA AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THAT ONE'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
YEAH. 56 AND LAST YEAR WE HAD BUDGETED 50,000 FOR THAT.
AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO ADJUST FOR ANTICIPATED RISING COSTS.
>> LOOK LIKE THEY COME IN AND ATTEND A DOG MEETING JUST STUFF LIKE THIS HDR DOES.
>> THAT'S A PLACE TO PAY FOR THEM FOR BEING HERE.
>> THAT'S PART OF IT. ANOTHER BIG PART OF IT IN THIS DEPARTMENT IS PLAN REVIEW.
THEY DO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAN REVIEW AND OFFERING COMMENTS WHENEVER WE RECEIVE A SET OF PLANS, OFTEN THEY CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF COMMENTS.
WE SEND IT OUT TO OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM FOR INTERNAL COMMENTS ALSO, THOSE COMMENTS ARE COMPILED AND SENT BACK TO THE APPLICANT AND IT IS UP TO THEM AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE, WHETHER IT BE AN ENGINEER OR SURVEYOR TO CLEAR THOSE COMMENTS, THEN RESUBMIT.
A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE PERTAINS TO THAT ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE.
>> DO SOME OF THOSE REVIEW FEES GET REIMBURSED FROM THE DEVELOPER OR DO WE GET REIMBURSED FOR TELLING THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO FIX THEIR PLANS.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE.
I THINK THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE OTHER QUESTION.
>> ON THOSE BROKEN OUT COSTS YOU SEE FOR EACH DEVELOPMENT.
>> OCCASIONALLY, YOU'LL SEE A SET OF DRAWINGS COME IN HERE AND THEY ARE JUST NOWHERE NEAR RIGHT AND A LITTLE BIT OF LEGWORK ON THE SIDE OF THE DEVELOPER UPFRONT COULD PRECLUDE SOME OF THAT AND I DON'T THINK THE CITY OUGHT TO BE EATING THE REVIEW FEES FOR SOMEBODY THAT NOT DOING HER STUFF RIGHT TO START WITH.
>> I WOULD AGREE. I KNOW THAT THE WAY THAT MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE EXECUTED HAVE A STIPULATION IN THERE FOR REIMBURSEMENT SO THE CITY IS NOT SUBSIDIZING FOR THOSE COSTS.
BUT THEN AGAIN, TO YOUR POINT, WE DO HAVE THEIR REPRESENTATION DURING OUR DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS WHICH OCCUR WEEKLY FOR ABOUT THREE HOURS OR SO.
>> WE'LL GET YOU SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT.
>> BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE ALL DEVELOPMENTS, I MEAN, THEY COULD BE SOMEONE WONDER, REPLOT SOMETHING OR SINGLE HOUSE OR WHATEVER THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SIGN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH.
WE'LL GET INTO SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT.
>> SALARIES AND WAGES WENT UP 10% IN THIS DEPARTMENT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LINE ITEM FOR SALARIES, IT'S UP 12%.
THEN THE MEDICAL INSURANCE, IT DIDN'T GO UP AT ALL.
>> YEAH, I NOTICED THAT IN INSURANCE.
>> WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE PICKING UP ON IS THAT WE DID ADD A PART-TIME BUILDING INSPECTOR AND HE DOESN'T COME WITH THE COST OF BENEFITS AND ACTUALLY DIDN'T NEED THEM BECAUSE HE'S RETIRED FROM PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT AND WORKS PART-TIME.
WE'RE REALLY GLAD TO HAVE HIM BECAUSE OF THE HUGE UPTICK AND INSPECTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
>> YES, AND HE WAS ADDED THIS YEAR HALFWAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR IN MARCH.
>> WELL, FTE STANDS FOR FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT.
>> THAT BRINGS YOU TO MY LAST QUESTION.
PERMITS. WHERE DO WE CAPTURE THAT IN HERE AND ARE WE ON THE MARK WHERE WE BUDGETED OR WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR UNDER THE PERMITTING.
>> I THINK WE'RE AHEAD AND I THINK THAT NUMBER IS ONLY GOING TO GROW SUBSTANTIALLY.
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[OVERLAPPING] GRAB SOMETHING REAL QUICK.>> WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE EXPENDITURE SIDE.
YOU NEED TO SEE THE REVENUE SIDE.
>> THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TOWARD THE BEGINNING.
>> JOHN GOT ME THERE. BUILDING PERMITS. LET'S SEE.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON TRACK TO EXCEED BUDGET ON PERMITS.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M JUST GOING TO THROW SOME WELL-FACTUAL STUFF OUT THERE FOR YOU REAL QUICK.
>> WHEN YOU CONSTRUCT A NEW HOME, THERE'S TYPICALLY 13 INSPECTIONS THAT GO INTO THAT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE INCREASE IN SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO SEE.
I'VE DONE A COUPLE LITTLE PROJECTIONS AND IF YOU WANT, I CAN SEND THIS OUT TO YOU.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE JUST PROJECTIONS.
I ESTIMATE THAT IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WE'LL HAVE EXECUTED 270 BUILDS SO THAT TIMES 13.
WE'RE TALKING THOSE ARE JUST INSPECTIONS JUST FOR NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE COMMERCIAL AND PREEXISTING HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE MAYBE THEY'VE DONE A REMODEL OR AN ADDITION TO THEIR EXISTING HOME.
IN 2023 AND THIS IS IF WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE ACTIVE SUBDIVISIONS BUILDING OUT AS THEY'RE TRENDING, IN ADDITION TO SOME SUBDIVISIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY EXECUTED AGREEMENTS WITH LIKE LIBEL BRANCH, WHICH YOU'VE SEEN, ANGLETON PARK PLACE POSSIBLY MULBERRY FIELDS, ELM ESTATES, FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT ONE'S GOING TO COME THROUGH.
IF ALL OF THOSE MATERIALIZE IN 2023, WE'RE LOOKING AT 483 NEW HOMES, 2024, 443 AND 2025 ABOUT 254, TIMES THAT BY 13 FOR EACH OF THOSE YEARS THAT'S JUST INSPECTIONS JUST ON NEW HOME BUILDS.
THAT GIVES YOU A BASELINE FOR HOW WE'RE TRENDING UPWARD IN REVENUE FOR INSPECTIONS.
>> JOHN, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
HE'S NOT INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER.
I MEAN, WE CAN COUNT THEM AS A 0.5 IF THAT MAKES SENSE OR SOMETHING SO WE'LL DO THAT.
>> IS THERE ANY OTHERS LIKE THAT?
>> THE FIGURE I GAVE YOU EARLIER DID NOT INCLUDE ANY INCREASES FOR ANY PART-TIME EMPLOYEE.
>> NOW WE TALK ABOUT THAT SPREADSHEET THAT WE GOT THERE.
WAS YOUR FTES FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS?
>> YES, IT DID NOT INCLUDE HIM. I'M SORRY.
>> BUT ANY OTHERS THAT ARE PART-TIME?
>> HOW MANY OTHER PART-TIMERS ARE THERE?
>> JUST THE REGULAR ONES THAT WE ADD NORMALLY LIKE LIFEGUARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'VE ADDED.
>> HE'S THE ONE. IN FACT, WE HAD ONE THAT WAS PART-TIME AT THE TREATMENT PLANT THAT WENT FULL-TIME OR THAT WORKS IN WATER SO HE WAS.
>> IT'S GOTTEN THEM IN THE FUTURE AS 0.5 PART-TIMER.
>> DO WE WANT TO DO THAT FOR THE PARK SINCE IT'S SO SEASONAL OR YOU'LL HAVE 30 PART-TIMERS, I GUESS.
>> WELL, BUT WE CAN PUT A NOTE AND SAY THEY'RE SEASONAL PART-TIMERS.
THEY DO HAVE SOME SEASONALS, BUT THEIR PART-TIMERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY SEASONALS.
>> ANYMORE QUESTIONS FROM US, LINDSEY AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GROUP.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND MS. LINDSEY, GOOD LUCK.
IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW SHE'S LEAVING US.
FRIDAY IS YOUR LAST DAY OR NEXT WEEK?
>> PHYSICALLY THURSDAY. [LAUGHTER]
>> THURSDAY. BEST OF LUCK TO YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
>> THANK YOU GUYS. IT'S BEEN SUCH A PLEASURE SERVING YOU GUYS.
>> THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU.
>> GOOD LUCK LINDSEY. [APPLAUSE]
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, LINDSEY. NEXT IS GOING TO BE GLENN.
HE'S GOING BE GOING OVER HIS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR PAGE 14 ON THE GENERAL FUND.
>> HEY, GLENN, YOU'RE NOT LAST THIS TIME AROUND.
>> IT'S RATHER SMALL, SO THIS SHOULDN'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME.
WE'VE GOT A FEW ITEMS ON THE GENERAL BUDGET THAT ARE RECURRING.
OUR ANNUAL GUIDE THAT WE SEND A RESONANCE.
NOW WE HAD A BIG CHANGE NOW THIS YEAR AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING WITH THIS WITH THE COUNTY FOR PROBABLY ABOUT THE LAST TEN TO 12 YEARS.
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IT'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.IT BRINGS DISASTER INFORMATION, PREPAREDNESS INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO THE PUBLIC, DIRECTLY TO THEIR MAILBOX AND INTEGRATE A LITTLE BROCHURE, THEY WERE UNABLE TO GET THE PRICING, UNABLE TO GET THE DELIVERIES.
CREATING THE BROCHURE IS PRETTY MUCH A SIMPLE PROCESS.
GETTING IT DELIVERED TO EVERY MAILBOX IN THE COUNTY IS MUCH MORE ELABORATE AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO COMPLETE THIS.
WE WERE ABLE TO BUY ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE MAILED SO THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THEM OUT AND WE CAN GIVE THEM OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT WAY.
WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 5,339 DOLLARS.
THAT'S A LITTLE UPTICK FROM WE HAD ESTIMATED THE LAST YEAR WAS 4,718 DOLLARS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE RESIDENTS IF THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT CONTINUES THE WAY IT WAS GOING.
THAT'S AN AMBIGUOUS FIGURE RIGHT NOW.
BASICALLY, I TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE GROWTH OF OUR POPULATION, THE MORE MAILBOXES, THE MORE MAILINGS BECAUSE THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH EACH MAILING FIFTY-SEVEN CENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
6,529 DOLLARS UPDATES OR RENEWS OUR CODERED.
THIS WILL BE THE LAST YEAR ON THIS CURRENT CONTRACT WITH CODERED THAT WE WILL SOLICIT FOR SOME NEW BIDS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME BETTER PRICES.
I MEAN, THIS IS A EXPANDING, GROWING, DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY.
WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR THIS ONE TWO YEARS AGO, WE WERE PAYING, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TEN OR 11 GRAND A YEAR TO CONNECT CTY AND WE FOUND CODERED THAT DID THE SAME THING AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE THIS LUCKY AS THE TECHNOLOGY MOVES ON, WE'LL GET SOME MORE STUFF.
THEN THE USUAL REPLACING MRE'S AND WATER SO WE'VE GOT THAT AVAILABLE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT DURING A DISASTER FOR THE STATE TO GET MOBILIZED.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING A HANDHELD RADIO THIS YEAR.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO KEEP COMMUNICATIONS AMONGST STAFF.
THE RADIOS WE BOUGHT LAST YEAR CAME IN VERY HANDY DURING MARKET DAYS.
THERE'LL BE HANDY IN THE HEART OF CHRISTMAS AND ALL THE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT BE PLUS ANY OTHER DISASTER OR EVENT THAT COMES UP.
LOOKING AT WE'VE GOT THE GRANT WITH GELLO TO ADD OUR WARNING SIRENS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON SINCE 2017/2018.
WITH THE INCREASE IN PRICES AND THE FINITE LEVEL OF THE PAYMENT, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET ALL THREE, BUT WE'RE HOPEFULLY WE CAN SQUEEZE IN ALL THREE WITHOUT A BIG ADJUSTMENT.
BUT EVEN IF WE DO, WE WANT TO EXPAND THE COVERAGE.
THAT WAS BY AN ADDITIONAL WARNING SIREN INSTALLED.
IF WE NEED TO EXPAND OR WE NEED TO AUGMENT WHAT WE GET ON THE GROUND. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> PRETTY CUT DRY, PRETTY FLAT, PRETTY SMALL, PRETTY BASIC.
>> THE ONLY BUDGET I'VE SEEN WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY LOWER.
>> WELL, LAST YEAR WE SPENT 39,000 DOLLARS ON GETTING THOSE TEN EXTRA RADIOS.
>> TAKE IT THOUGH GLENN. [LAUGHTER]
>> HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF HE SHOULD HAVE.
YOU JUST PUT THE BUFFER THERE.
>> HE'S GOT A LOT OF BRANDS WORKING, SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT.
>> GETTING HIMSELF A PERSONAL RAISE.
>> THERE MAYBE SOME COLD PAYMENTS THAT COME DOWN LATER FOR IMMIGRANTS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR WHAT, 15 YEARS TO GET A GENERATOR OUT AT THE REC CENTER? WE ARE THIS CLOSE NOW TO GETTING A GRANT TO PAY FOR IT.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR GLENN?
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE THAT YOU HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN IS GOING TO BE YOUR ECO DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE MS. MARTHA.
SHE'S COMING ON UP FOR HER FEW FUNDS.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PAGE 30.
THE FIRST HIGHLIGHT THAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK AT WOULD BE TRAVEL AND TRAINING.
I STARTED MY CDI COURSES THIS YEAR AND I WILL TAKE TWO IN THE COMING FISCAL YEAR TO GET MY PCED SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE.
>> JUST TO LET THE FOLKS KNOW WHAT DOES PCED STAND FOR?
>> PROFESSIONAL CERTIFIED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THEN THE NEXT ONE IS YOU REMEMBER IN THE COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE BROUGHT THE SCOREBOARD BACK TO YOU FOR AISD.
KRISTIN AND I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
I KNOW AT THE TIME WE FIRST SUBMITTED IT, THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ON WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS?
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IT REALLY IS NOT.THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT IN THIS BUDGET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT?
>> IS THAT NOT GOING TO COME BACK TO US FOR FINAL APPROVAL?
>> DON'T WE PROVE IT EVERY YEAR?
>> YOU APPROVED IT FOR A FOUR-YEAR CONTRACT, I THINK.
>> YEAH, IT'S SUBSEQUENT YEARS. I DO REMEMBER THAT.
>> WE HAVE FOUR MORE YEARS WITH IT OR IS IT THREE?
>> IT WENT FROM 10-15, SO WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO YOU AFTER YADA APPROVED IT THE FIRST TIME, AND THEN THEY CANCELED IT BECAUSE OF COVID AND DIDN'T GO INTO MAKING THE SIGN AND THEN CAME BACK TO US WITH A $5,000 INCREASE AND SO WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO YOU.
>> WHY DOES IT NOT COUNT IF THERE'S PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT ARE HERE FOR A FOOTBALL GAME THAT ARE WATCHING OR A SOCCER GAME OR IT'S AN ADVERTISEMENT TO COME TO ANGLETON?
>> BECAUSE THERE'S A TWO-PART TEST.
THAT'S ONE PART, THE SECOND PART IS THAT IT HAS TO DIRECTLY PUT HEADS AND BEDS.
IT HAS TO IMPACT OUR HOTEL STAYS.
>> WHAT I MEAN IF IT'S [OVERLAPPING] A REALLY GOOD SCOREBOARD, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TO SEE IT.
>> THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT STAYING HERE? [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT IF IT WERE TO ADVERTISE DIRECTLY, LIKE STAY IN OUR HOTEL ROOMS, THEN IT WOULD MORE LIKELY QUALIFY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] DOES THAT COMMERCIAL SAY THAT?
>> BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE POOL OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM, FROM THE GAMES ARE REALLY NOT NECESSARILY WOULD WANT TO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT IT'S NOT. THERE'S ALSO A TRACK OF MYTHS THAT GO ON THERE.
THEY DO MARCHING CONTESTS THAT SOMETIMES ARE TWO-DAY EVENT.
>> I'VE SEEN TWO-DAY EVENTS THERE AT PLESSY TRACK FIELD.
>> I CAN CERTAINLY RUN IT UP TO LEGAL AND FIND OUT IF THEY THINK IT MEETS THE TEST.
KRISTEN, I DID TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY WHEN YOU'RE TYPING YOUR COUNCIL MESSAGE FOR THE WELCOME MESSAGE FOR THE GAME, THAT YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT [OVERLAPPING] COME TO ANGLETON, STAY IN OUR HOTELS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DID SAY OUR TEAM COME BACK TO ENJOY WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.
>> MAYBE YOU COULD EXPAND THE COMMERCIAL A LITTLE BIT.
>> GOT YOU. [OVERLAPPING] WE CAN TELL THEM TO COME AND GO AND MARK YOUR DAYS AND EVERYTHING. [LAUGHTER]
>> RIGHT. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
>> I WOULDN'T GIVE UP ON THAT.
>> WE FUNDED A LOT OF GRAYER AREAS.
>> I WOULDN'T BE SO PROUD ABOUT THAT JOB.
>> THANK YOU, IF YOU WILL JUST LOOK INTO THAT FOR US.
>> I COULD DO THAT. [OVERLAPPING] I'LL GET YOU THE ANSWER FOR SURE [LAUGHTER].
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DO YOU WANT TO MOVE ON? KEEP GOING?
>> [OVERLAPPING]YOU DEVELOP TIMEOUTS DURING THE GAME TO LAST LONGER AND DIDN'T JUST CAN'T MAKE IT HOME.
>> BUT IF YOU LOOK NOT THAT ANYBODY ORDER THEIR SEASON TICKETS, BUT WE HAVE MAGNOLIA ON THE SCHEDULE THERE.
IT'S AN HOUR AND TWO HOURS AWAY [LAUGHTER].
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL 10:00, YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY THE NIGHT.
>> WELL, IF YOU SAY THE ROTH'S DARKER CAN USE AT LEAST 3.5 HOURS.
>> YEAH. THERE YOU GO. [LAUGHTER]
>> LET'S START THE GAME AT 8:00 O'CLOCK.
>> ALL RIGHT MARTHA, THANK YOU.
>> HOTEL MOTEL. LET'S GO TO PAGE 53.
THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS GOING TO BE, IF YOU REMEMBER, IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD A CONTRACT SERVICES.
>> WE GO SPECIAL FUNDS. THANK YOU.
>> INSTEAD OF CONTRACTING SERVICES, WE BROUGHT COURTNEY FROM THE REC CENTER WHO HAS A MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS DEGREE AND WE BROUGHT IT OVER TO BE PART OF MY TEAM.
I'M THRILLED WITH THAT AND SO PLEASED TO HAVE HER.
SHE HAS BEEN ADDED TO THIS DEPARTMENT.
ON EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES, WE JUST WENT TO TEAMIO FOR MUNICIPAL INFORMATION OFFICERS AT CONFERENCE AND THEY SHOWED US A PACKAGE FOR $1,000 WHERE WE COULD HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO DO VIDEO AND WE WERE LIKE,
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THAT'S A REALLY GREAT PRICE.I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE DO A VIDEO NOW, WE SHOOT IT ON OUR PHONE OR WHATEVER, BUT THIS WOULD GIVE US THE TRIPOD AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED FOR STABILITY AND ALL OF THAT.
AGAIN, ON TRAVEL AND TRAINING, THIS IS MY YEAR FOR FINISHING MY CERTIFICATIONS.
NEXT WEEK I'M GOING TO BE IN FORT WORTH AT TCU AND THAT'S A THREE-YEAR COURSE, BUT I'M GOING TO DO IT IN TWO YEARS.
THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS $14,000 ADDITIONAL OR $15,000 ADDITIONAL IN ADVERTISING.
INSIDE ANGLETON HAS INCREASED A GREAT DEAL IN PRICE FOR PRINTING AND PUTTING OUT A MAGAZINE.
THAT'S THEIR COST RIGHT THERE.
>> BUT WE GET SO MANY COMMENTS FROM THAT AND IT'S GREAT.
MARKETING THING FROM WE HAVE PROSPECTS, DEVELOPERS OR BUSINESSES OR WHATEVER AND EMPLOYEES REALLY ENJOYED.
I THINK WE'VE RECENTLY HIGHLIGHTED A LOT OF EMPLOYEES AND IT WAS NOT IN THE MARKETING PIECE, BUT WE'VE DONE DISPATCH, WE'VE DONE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WE'VE DONE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> EMS, ISD, COMMUNITY ASSETS.
>> ADVERTISING. THE WAY I SPLIT UP INSIDE ANGLETON IS BECAUSE WE USE IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.
WE DO SEND IT OUT WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH A DEVELOPER TO GET THEM TO COME TO TOWN OR WE DO SEND THE MAGAZINE TO THEM.
WE SEND IT DIGITALLY, WE SEND IT IN WELCOME PACKETS.
THERE IS ONE PUT IN ALL ARE WELCOME PACKETS NOW THAT PATTY AND UTILITY BILLING DO EACH MONTH.
I SPLIT IT BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND HOTEL/MOTEL.
>> AND IT MEET YOUR TWO-PART TEST?
>> FOR GRAY AREA, THIS IS ONE OF THEM?
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE BILLBOARD.
>> YEAH, BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR REACH IS.
THAT'S WHY I SPLIT IT THE WAY I DO.
>> THE FUND BALANCE IN THIS FUND, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW, IS $477,238.
THE FUND BALANCE IS MS. DANIEL'S.
THIS IS FROM THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN ANGLETON UNIVERSITY.
THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDS ARE GENERATED FROM.
THE WAY THAT WE WILL INCREASE REVENUE AND THIS ACCOUNT IS GETTING THE HOTELS TO PAY.
>> AUSTON ASKED ABOUT THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A STRUGGLE RIGHT NOW WITH A FEW OF OUR HOTELS.
WE HAVE SECURED A GROUP THAT IS WORKING WITH US TO HELP US WITH THAT.
>> CAN WE ASSESS THEIR FOOT LEAN AGAINST THEM?
>> I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AUDITED THESE ACCOUNTS.
THEY KNOW HOW FAR IN ARREARS THEY REALLY ARE, SO IT'S NOT JUST THEIR GENERAL HONOR PAYMENT.
THEY REALLY ARE LOOKING INTO THAT, SO WE KNOW HOW MUCH IN ARREARS THEY ARE AND WE WILL LOOK AT OTHER CHANNELS IF WE HAVE TO GO TO LEGAL.
>> BECAUSE I KNOW ONE OR TWO OF THEM SOLD THIS LAST YEAR.
I WONDER IF THE NEW OWNERSHIP WAS RESPONSIBLE AND ON THE HOOK FOR ANYTHING ELSE, SAY IN TAXES WHICH ARE PAID?
>> [OVERLAPPING] I BELIEVE, SO.
>> WE ALSO DO TWO AUDITS A YEAR, SO OVER ABOUT A THREE OR FOUR-YEAR PERIOD, WORKED THROUGH ALL THE HOTELS SO THAT PHARAONIC BLOW ACROSS THE BOARD AND HOLD THE STANDARD BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY LIKE INTERPRET IT WHAT IS HOTEL TAX AND WHAT'S NOT.
>> IS IT LEGAL TO POST THE NAMES OF THESE PEOPLE AND AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY OWED THE CITY IN HOTEL TAX? THIS IS NOT JUST AN IN-HOUSE KNOWLEDGE, BUT PUBLIC INFORMATION.
>> WE CAN ADVERTISE IT IN SOMEWHERE.
IT'S LIKE IT'S NO ONE IS BEING TOLD THIS.
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>> WE ARE KEEPING IT UNDER WRAPS.
WE WENT OUT OF OUR WAY TO TRY TO HELP THESE FOLKS DURING THE COVID ISSUE AND THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND NOT PAY THEIR STUFF AND IT JUST DOESN'T TASTE VERY GOOD TO ME AND I HOPE IT DIDN'T TASTE VERY GOOD TO ANYBODY ELSE.
>> I REMEMBER I WAS NOT ON CITY COUNCIL, BUT I REMEMBER WATCHING THEM APPROVE THAT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S A PASS-THROUGH.
THIS WAS NOT GENERATED FROM ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THE PEOPLE STAYING AT THEIR HOTELS PAID.
>> THERE IS A YEAR TO THIS. THEIR NO SKIN OFF THEIR BACK THEY COLLECTED AND JUST LIKE THEY DO STATE SALES TAX OR CITY-STATE OF TAX.
>> THEN A RANSOM FOR IT, I SAY, DON'T TASTE GOOD.
THE OTHER THING IN A HOTEL MOTEL THAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS THIS IS THE WHERE WE DO MARKET DAYS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE MARKET DAYS IS A PROFIT CENTER FOR THE CITY, WE GENERATE BETWEEN $90 AND $100,000 A YEAR FOR OUR TWO EVENTS ON VENDOR FEES.
WE HAVEN'T RAISED AS VENDOR FEES IN A VERY LONG TIME.
WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE BECAUSE WE'RE SO MUCH LOWER THAN THE OTHER SHOWS AROUND, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE BY $50 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN STILL ADVERTISE AND GET THE PEOPLE.
BECAUSE ALL THE COSTS ARE GOING UP.
THAT'S ANOTHER WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE EXPENSE AS WELL.
>> WHAT'S THAT EXTRA $50 YOU DEGENERATE HERE IF YOU'RE GOING UP PER VENDOR?
>> HOW MANY DO YOU TYPICALLY RENT OUT?
>> TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN [OVERLAPPING] OR SO.
THAT'S NOT A PURE NUMBER BECAUSE SOME SPACES ARE LARGER THAN THAT.
BUT ON AVERAGE, AN INSIDE BOOTH IS A 10-BY-10, AND OUTDOORS IS 10-BY-20.
IT'S $200,000 OR 250 IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
>> THAT BRINGS US TO COMMUNITY EVENTS, WHICH IS FUND 11.
THAT'S A SPECIAL FUND AS WELL.
THAT IS WE DO THE COMMUNITY EVENTS FROM THE REVENUES THAT WE RAISE FROM MARKET DAYS.
YOU MAY REMEMBER WHEN PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE ARE SO MANY BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH OUR MONEY THAN THESE THINGS, BUT THESE ARE GREAT.
I FEEL LIKE QUALITY OF LIFE, THINGS THAT WE GIVE TO OUR CITIZENS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO BECAUSE WE DO MARKET DAYS.
THE TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD NOTE IN HERE IS UNCONSCIOUS IN THE PARK.
WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO HOLD THE LINE, BUT WE HAD TO INCREASE A LITTLE BIT.
LIKE THIS YEAR WE HAVE FIVE WEEKS IN SEPTEMBER AND THAT'S MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT OF A STRUGGLE.
FREEDOM FIREWORKS, THE SAME THING.
WE HAVE TO INCREASE IT A LITTLE BIT JUST BECAUSE OF THE COST OF PRODUCT.
NOTHING HUGE, BUT THERE WAS A COST THAT DID GO UP THERE.
JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE MARKET DAYS REVENUE TO HELP US CONTINUE TO DO THESE GREAT EVENTS.
>> I KNOW. I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE YOU SAID COSTS WERE GOING UP, THE COST FROM THE PARK.
HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE FINDING A SINGLE UNDERWRITER, A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE, BUT MAYBE IT'S A ONE-PERSON UNDERWRITER FOR EITHER A CONCERT OR THE HOST SERIES?
>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE OVER BUDGET AND SO WE'LL SEEK SPONSORSHIP.
FOR FREEDOM FIREWORKS FOR EXAMPLE, AND IT IS BUDGETED, BUT WE DO SEEK SPONSORSHIP FOR THE FIREWORKS TO HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS.
I THINK WE BUDGETED 10,000 THIS LAST YEAR.
I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST IF WE'VE BEEN SHORT, LIKE SAY ON TOMORROW NIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S ANOTHER ARTIST THEY WANT TO BRING IN AND IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT SHOW.
THEN WE'LL GO TO GULF COAST OR SOME OF THE OTHER VENDORS HERE, AN ANGLETON THAT WANT TO PARTNER WITH US IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
>> OKAY. TRY NOT TO MAKE IT SO COMMERCIALIZED,
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BUT TO INTERVENE WE MUST HAVE THAT.>> WHAT DO THEY GET FOR THAT JUST EXPOSURE.
>> I KNOW, BUT HOW? I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANY SIGNAGE OUT.
>> WELL, NOT WHEN NOT ON A GENERAL CONCERT, BUT I KNOW IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE FOR A CONCERT IN THE PARK FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, THEY BROUGHT TRUCKS OUT.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY PUT VEHICLES ONSIDE AND SIGNAGE.
>> OH, YEAH. WHERE THEY PARKED IN THE STREET?
AGAIN WE'VE FINISHED AND WE COULD GET THEM OUT OF THE STREET.
>> SO WE OPEN THE ROADWAY. YEAH, I REMEMBER.
>> I HAVE BEEN TO THE SERIES OUT THERE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY WITH THE CITY, MAYBE THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, TO OPEN THE SHOW AS MC.
IN ALMOST EVERY SHOW, I'VE ALSO BEEN OUT THERE.
>> WHERE MUSIC IS PLAYED IN THE INTERIM, WHICH IS FINE.
BUT AGAIN, WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR A MAYOR PRO TEM, CITY MANAGER, OUR STRUCTURE, I DON'T KNOW, TO GO OUT THERE AND DO A LITTLE BUSINESS SELLING OF TIME AND THINKING OF SPONSORS.
THEN THEY CAN MC THE MUSIC OR WHATEVER WHILE THE BREAK IS GOING.
IS THAT BREAK GOING? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE WORTH EXPLORING.
>> THE THING TO SORRY, I'M JUST COMING THERE.
BUT ON THE SIGNAGE, IF GULF COAST OR SOME OTHER BIG VENDOR, WHATEVER BIG BUSINESS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SIGNS WILL DRIVE THEM FOR YOU THAT NIGHT.
YOU GET THEM TO US BY THURSDAY OR WHATEVER, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE STAGE IS THE BACKDROP OR DROP IT DOWN OFF THE FRONT OF THE STAGE.
I'D BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL.
PROBABLY MAYBE I HAVE ALREADY HAVE THESE THOUGHTS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, TRAVIS.
I KNOW THE MAYOR IF HE IS ON-SITE, HE'S GOING TO TALK ON THAT MICROPHONE.
[LAUGHTER] THERE'S NEVER BEEN A TIME THAT HE'S NOT BEEN AT THAT CONCERT THAT HE HASN'T GREETED THE CROWD.
>> I USUALLY DO IT THE INTERMISSION.
>>BUT YOU GOT GREAT IDEA, TRAVIS.
YEAH, WE COULD, CERTAINLY MORE AND MORE OF THAT.
>> ESPECIALLY IF I'M JUST THINKING LIKE GULF COAST SPECIFICALLY.
BUT WE HAVE OUR OTHER PARTNERS WE WORK WITH.
>> IF THEY KNOW THESE OPPORTUNITIES ARE COMING ABOUT ANNUAL, THEY CAN SPEND ONE-TIME BUDGET, GO PURCHASE A SIGN, THEY CAN STORE IT, AND THEN A COUPLE OF TIMES ANNUALLY THEY CAN SHARE IT WITH US AND THEY CAN USE IT FOR THEY HAVE THEIR OWN VINCE, THEY DO AS WELL.
>> BUT MAYBE THERE'LL BE WILLING TO MAKE ALMOST A CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THIS REUSABLE SIGN THAT WHETHER IT'S DAM OR PICK A DIFFERENT LOCATION. JUST AN IDEA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON COMMUNITY EVENTS? THE LAST ONE IS DOWNTOWN AND YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE DID NOT FUND THIS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING OFF THE FUND BALANCE.
WE'RE DOWN TO $11,910 IN FUND BALANCE.
WITH THAT, KEEPING THAT STANDARD $10,000 IN THERE.
BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING OFF THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE BEEN.
THIS LAST YEAR WE HAD THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY, PAGE 75.
WE HAD THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO BRANCH OUT.
WE TALKED IN BUDGET WORKSHOP LAST YEAR.
WHAT ABOUT MOVING OUT PAST DOWNTOWN? WHAT ABOUT 35 CORRIDOR? WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY AND MAYOR MADE ME AWARE OF A NEW BUSINESS ON HIGHWAY 35 THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEND AN APPLICATION TOO.
THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS MORE IN THE FUTURE.
WE CAN CHANGE THE NAME OF THIS ANGLE TO REVEAL A REVITALIZATION, WHATEVER.
BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE MAXIMUM GRANT AWARD THAT WE TYPICALLY GIVE IS $4000.
SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE DONE A PROJECT THAT WAS $8,000 ON THEIR FACADE THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ROADWAY.
WE'RE NOT BUYING ROOFS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO UPGRADE YOUR BUILDING AND PAINT AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE IT NICER, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.
IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, WE ONLY HAVE $11,910 LEFT.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH DOWNTOWN.
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>> ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS FOR ME? THAT'S ALL MY BUDGETS.
>> NO. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR MS. MARTHA?
>> HEARING THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> HEY, TONY. SURE. WE GOT THIS FOR TWO HOURS AND 15.
CAN WE TAKE A TWO-MINUTE BREAK? LET'S TAKE A 10-MINUTE BREAK.
>> IT IS 8:16 SHOWS AT RECESS.
[NOISE] WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
>> WE CAN SHOW US ALL RECONVENING BACK INTO THE TABLE OR 8:33, WE'RE BACK AT THE STATION.
>> HOW MUCH WILL WE GOT LEFT, OR SOMETHING?
>> THE MAIN CARE. I CALLED HIS DAUGHTER. SHE'S NOT.
>> SEE SECRETARY, GIVE US A PAGE NUMBER IF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> THIRTY. ARNOLD HAS THE QUESTION.
>> I FIRST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE SALARIES SINCE I AM ALSO OVER COURT, 50 PERCENT OF THE SALARY WILL COME OUT OF CITY SECRETARY, AND THEN 50 PERCENT OF MY SALARY WILL COME OUT OF MUNICIPAL COURT.
SO YOU'LL SEE A DECREASE IN THAT.
>> MAYBE THE ADJUSTMENT HASN'T BEEN MADE YET.
>> RIGHT, THE ADJUSTMENT HASN'T BEEN MADE YET.
>> THEY PRINTED THESE ON THE FIRST.
>> THE OTHER INCREASES YOU'LL SEE IS GENERAL SUPPLIES AND THESE ARE JUST BASICALLY BASED OFF OF INFLATION.
LEGAL PROFESSIONAL, YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER INCREASE BECAUSE OF OUR LASERFICHE AND LICENSES.
ALSO BECAUSE OF JUSTFOI OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION SOFTWARE THAT WE'VE ADDED.
ELECTION EXPENSE, YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER INCREASE BECAUSE OF TRANSLATION SERVICES AND THAT'S FOR TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR OUR BALLOTS.
ALSO, YOU'LL SEE CONTRACT LABOR.
YOU'LL SEE 20,000, AND THAT IS FOR DOCUMENTS SCANNING.
THIS IS HELPING US GO TOWARDS BEING PAPERLESS.
THIS IS A CONTRACT LABOR THAT SHE WORKS PART-TIME AND SHE SCANS AND DOCUMENTS INTO LASERFICHE FOR US.
SHE'S CURRENTLY SCANNING IN COMMERCIAL PLANS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR CITY SECRETARY BUDGET.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THE PERSON DOING THE SCANNING, IS THAT IN THE HEAD COUNT REPORT CALLING?
>> NO. SO THAT'S ANOTHER ONE WE GOT TO ADD?
>> JUST CONTRACT. [BACKGROUND]
>> IN YOUR PACKET, YOU DO SEE THAT THE CITY SECRETARY BUDGET DID INCREASE.
THAT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD TWO POSITIONS THAT WERE SPLIT BETWEEN CITY SECRETARY AND COURT.
BUT NOW WE JUST HAVE ONE POSITION SINCE THE BUDGET HAS COME OUT THAT IS GOING TO BE SPLIT BETWEEN CITY SECRETARY AND COURT.
THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO DROP BY ANOTHER $60,000.
>> NEXT BUDGET TO ADDRESS IS OUR MUNICIPAL COURT DEPARTMENT.
YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE FOR CERTIFICATION PAY FOR EMPLOYEES.
WE ARE ENCOURAGING THEM TO GO FOR THEIR COURT CLERK CERTIFICATION 1.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE INCREASES FOR GENERAL SUPPLIES.
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ALSO WE ADDED INTERPRETATION.WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH SPANISH INTERPRETATION IN MUNICIPAL COURT.
WE ADDED LANGUAGE LINE AND THERE'S NO CONTRACT, THEY JUST PAY YOU BASED OFF OF ON CALLS OR VIDEOS INTERPRETATION.
>> A PAY-AS-YOU-GO KIND OF THING?
>> YES. I THINK OUR LAST INVOICE WAS $42.
>> YOU GET MORE THAN ONE LANGUAGE OR IS IT, DO THEY DO MULTIPLE LANGUAGES OR JUST SPANISH?
>> IT'S BY TELEPHONE OR VIDEO.
>> COULD THAT BE USED BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR GESTURAL?
>> CURRENTLY IT IS JUST COURT, BUT IT COULD BE USED BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS ALSO.
>> DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SOMEONE THAT SPEAKS SPANISH IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SO THEY DON'T.
BUT COURT HAS BEEN BARRING THAT PERSON AND TRACKS FROM THEIR MISSION TO HAVE IN YOUR OWN BACK-AND-FORTH.
>> WE'VE ALSO BEEN USING OUR WARRANT OFFICER FOR TRANSLATION AND SOMETIMES HE'S BUSY IN ONE AREA AND IT'S HARD TO PULL THEM FOR TRANSLATION.
>> ON YOUR COURT BUDGET, ANOTHER PIECE THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW IS THAT 60,000 THAT WAS SAVED IN THE CITY SECRETARY BUDGET IS ADDED TO THE CITY COURT BUDGET.
YOU MIGHT HAVE SIGHT IT ON THE CITY SECRETARY SIDE, BUT IT HAS BEEN ADDED SINCE TO THE COURT BUDGET BECAUSE THAT DIRECTOR LEVEL SPLIT BETWEEN THE CITY SECRETARY AND COURT IS GOING TO BE SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT THEN YOU ALSO STILL HAVE YOUR COURT ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION THERE TOO.
>> YOU STILL HAVE THE COURT ADMINISTRATORS STILL ON THE BUDGET? ARE WE ADVERTISING FOR THAT POSITION NOW?
>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COURT?
>> REMEMBER, WE HAD A HARD TIME FILLING THAT BILL.
WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF REARRANGEMENT AND MICHELLE WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO STEP IN AND HELP OVERSEE THAT.
SHE EXPRESSED BEFORE WE'RE TRYING TO GROW THEM AND GET THEM CERTIFICATIONS BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY A RELATIVELY NEW STAFF WITH A COUPLE OF FOLKS LEAVE.
BUT SHE'S CONVINCED THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THAT BECAUSE YOU GET IT INTO TRACKS FROM THOSE DUTIES SHE HAD.
>> CITY COUNCIL BUDGET. PAGE 10.
>> [LAUGHTER] AGAIN, THE INCREASES YOU SEE IN APPAREL IN GENERAL SUPPLIES, THAT'S GOING TO BE TRAVEL TRAINING, THAT'S GOING TO ALL BE BASED OFF OF INFLATION, INCREASED COST.
>> IS THAT THE MISSOURI COUNTY DAYS? IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXPENSE THIS YEAR?
>> CORRECT. MISSOURI COUNTY LEGISLATIVE DAY IN AUSTIN.
>> THOSE ARE YOUR INCREASES FOR COUNCIL.
>> NO. THERE IS NOT A WHOLE LOT TO IT.
>> [LAUGHTER] WE DO HAVE SOME SPECIAL FUNDS WHICH IS OUR MUNICIPAL COURT SECURITY FUND.
THERE WAS A TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND AND THAT HELPS COVER OUR WARRANT OFFICER.
BUT THE BUDGET, IT REMAINS THE SAME.
>> PAGE 57, UNDER YOUR SPECIAL FUNDS.
>> SAME GOES FOR OUR TECHNOLOGY FUND. NO CHANGES.
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>> AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER TO THOSE ROLES, SPECIAL-PURPOSE FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED ONLY FOR SPECIAL ROLES. [OVERLAPPING]
[LAUGHTER]. THEN OUR CHILD'S SAFETY FUND.
[NOISE] ALSO NO CHANGES IN THE BUDGET THERE.
>> WHEN DID WE CREATE THE CHILD'S SAFETY FUND? ANYBODY KNOW?
>> THAT COULD BE USED TOWARDS OUR SCHOOL GUARDS AND ALSO JUST PROMOTING CHILD SAFETY.
>> I CAN'T FIND IT. WHAT PAGE IS THE CHILD'S SAFETY FUND? I'M THUMBING JUST TO SEE WHAT'S IN THERE.
>> REVENUES ARE ON 77 [OVERLAPPING] ON 78.
>> WHERE DOES THAT FUNDING COME FROM?
>> THAT'S THROUGH THE COURT, BUT NOT EVERYBODY GETS CHARGED- AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT QUESTION.
WHO GETS CHARGED THAT FEE THAT IT'S THIS? HOW DO YOU GET THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT QUESTION. BUT I COULD-
>> I'D BE CURIOUS. [OVERLAPPING].
>> -LET YOU KNOW AT LATER TIME.
>> THERE IS NO CAR SEAT VIOLATION AND THAT'S WHEN THEY GET IT OR NO SEAT BELTS?
>> IT'S A FUN THAT ZEROS ITSELF OUT.
SO WHATEVER THEY EARN, THEY SPEND APPARENTLY.
>> JUST LIKE TECHNOLOGY AND THOSE FEES, THERE'S NO SET AMOUNT, IT'S BASED ON-
>> I JUST WONDER WHO WE COLLECT FROM. I KNOW IT'S SOMEBODY IN THE COURT, BUT HOW DID THEY GET THERE? I WANT TO STAY OFF THAT LIST. [LAUGHTER]
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. MICHELLE? IS THAT IT FOR YOU?
>> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ROCKING AND ROLLING ALONG.
>> THE FIRST ONE WE'LL START WITH IS THE UTILITY BILLING COLLECTION.
THAT'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR WATER FUND TAB PAGE 39.
THAT SHOULD BE THE LAST DEPARTMENT, ACTUALLY, THE WATER FUND BECAUSE WE WENT OVER THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ON SATURDAY.
THIS IS THE LAST DEPARTMENT IN YOUR WATER FUND THAT WE NEED TO GO OVER.
THIS IS FOR COLLECTIONS, AS YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR BINDER AND ON THE EXCEL DOCUMENT, THE SALARIES HAVE WENT UP ON THE COLLECTIONS PORTION AND THAT'S BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS TWO REQUEST THAT WATER TECH DID HER BUDGET.
AS IT WAS DATED ON SATURDAY, PUBLIC WORKS DID TRANSFER ONE OF THEM OVER AND THAT'S BECAUSE HE WAS BASICALLY WORKING 99 PERCENT OF THE TIME IN HER DEPARTMENT ANYWAY.
JUST TO MAKE THE ACCOUNTING MATCH, WE JUST MOVED HIM OVER TO HER DEPARTMENT FOR THAT EXPENSE.
THAT MEANS THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL WATER TECH HERE.
THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL REQUESTS BECAUSE WE HAVE OF COURSE, THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME IN.
THERE'S MORE NEED FOR TECHS ON HER SIDE, BUT THAT IS ONE EXTRA ITEM THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR ADDITIONAL POSITION REQUESTS AS WELL THAT COUNCIL HAS THE LEISURE TO SAY YES OR NO ON.
I JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT ON THAT.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE A LARGE CHANGE ON THE FUEL EXPENSE.
THAT'S JUST BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN WITH TWO NEW TECHS COME, A NEW VEHICLE, IT FEEL EXPENSIVE SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT AMOUNT THERE.
FOR EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES, IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE EQUIPMENT OF THOSE ITEMS. THEN A NEW FUND THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE WATER FUND FOR COLLECTIONS IS THE NEW RESIDENT WELCOME KITS.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY BE AN EXPENSE THAN THE ADMIN BUDGET THIS YEAR.
THAT'S JUST A FOLDER WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY OF ANGLETON, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON WITH CODE RED AND DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT ARE IN THERE.
BASICALLY OUR WATER DEPARTMENT HANDS THAT OUT TO ALL OUR NEW RESIDENTS.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A BUDGETED ITEM IN THERE FOR THAT EXPENSE.
SO THAT IS WHAT THAT 17,500 COMES FROM.
SHE DID ALREADY WORK WITH BUILDING SERVICES AND THEY TOLD HER SOME NUMBERS OF WHAT THAT'LL LOOK LIKE, SO SHE CALCULATED THAT UP TO COME UP WITH THAT EXPENSE.
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YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS NEW IS THE METER SUPPLIES.ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S JUST ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE NEW WATER TECHS AS WE GO THROUGH THERE AND SAY YES OR NO, THOSE EXPENSES CAN BE REMOVED, BUT THAT'S JUST THE SUPPLIES FOR THE NEW METER TECHS THERE.
THEN THE CREDIT CARD FEES IS ONE THING THAT WAS MENTIONED ON SATURDAY THAT IS IN THE UTILITY BILLING EXPENSES.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT ON A DIFFERENT DAY.
WE CAN PROVIDE SOME OTHER INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AS FAR AS THOSE RATES ARE CONCERNED AND HOW THEY'RE CAPTURING THAT.
BUT THERE IS $30, 000 BUDGETED EACH YEAR FOR THE CREDIT CARD FEES.
THAT'S TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF YOUR PAGE ON 39, AND THEN ANOTHER 50, 000 BUDGETED FOR INTERNET FEES THAT THE CITY PAYS ON THE UTILITY BILLING SIDE.
>> I RECOMMEND WE DO THAT AS A WORKSHOP JUST SO TO GET YOUR POINT.
>> LET ME JUST ASK ONE QUESTION ON IT.
I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL, BUT ARE YOU OFFSETTING THE REVENUE AGAINST THE EXPENDITURE? IS IT JUST A PASS-THROUGH?
>> A PORTION OF IT AS A PASS THROUGH, A PORTION OF IT IS NOT.
A PORTION WE ACTUALLY DO PAY FOR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> A PORTION IS ACTUALLY REVENUE.
BECAUSE YOU'RE CHARGING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE PAYING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO. WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GETTING ANY REVENUE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NOT AT ALL. WE'LL PROBABLY RECOVER HALF OF IT, BUT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY SPENDING ON THE OTHER HALF.
>> IS THAT IN THE WATER FUND COLLECTIONS REVENUE?
>> THOSE [NOISE] ARE BASICALLY THE ONLY CHANGES FOR THE WATER FUND.
THERE IS A TRANSFER BUDGETED IN THERE FOR TRANSFERRED TO THE GENERAL FUND AND THERE IS A $70,000 BUDGET FOR BAD DEBT EXPENSE.
BUT WE ARE LOOKING INTO A COLLECTION AGENCY SO WE CAN TRY AND GET SOME OF THOSE REVENUES BACK TO US ON THAT.
LAST NIGHT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR SISTER CITIES WHO'S REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS AS WELL.
INTERESTING TO SEE THAT YOU PUT A BAD DEBT EXPENSE IN A LINE ITEM.
>> I'VE BEEN WATCHING ONE OF THOSE SISTER CITIES DOWN THERE STRUGGLING WITH THAT AND ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT THEIR ACCOUNTS THAT ARE IN ARREARS.
>> WE THINK OUR HOTEL WATER, TED CAMEL, MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT SERVICE FOR US.
WE ARE EXPLORING THAT IF NOT WILL GO FOR RFQ AND HOW WE CAN DO IT.
>> I HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR OFF TOPIC, BUT DO YOU-ALL KNOW WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT OUTSTANDING IS?
>> YEAH. IT'S IN THE OOP THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE THAN THAT.
>> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER RIGHT NOW, BUT I KNOW FROM THE LAST REPORT THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE IN ARREARS AS FAR AS NOT BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE, IS ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE IN CURRENT REVENUE THAT WERE COLLECTED FROM WATER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WAS THAT LIKE YOU GOT TO CATCH THEM QUICKLY,
>> BEFORE THEY DISAPPEAR [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE IT IS WATER.
>> LONGER IT AGES, THE WORST IT'S GOING TO BE.
>> SOME OF THAT THAT'S NOT RECOVERABLE, THEY SAY ITS NOT RECOVERABLE.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IS THOSE COMPANIES GET A PERCENTAGE OF THAT BACK.
EVEN IN A PERFECT WORLD YOU NEVER RECOVER THE FULL AMOUNT.
>> GET SOMETHING BACK AS [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE HAD BEEN GIVEN SOME TALLIES A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
IT WAS PRETTY EXTRAVAGANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS DUE.
>> THERE WERE COUPLE OF ENTITIES THAT SHOULDN'T BE INTO THIS BECAUSE YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY COULD PAY THEIR BILL BY GOING ANY DEEPER THAN THAT, BUT THAT WAS PRETTY DISGUSTING AS WELL.
THOSE DEALS WHERE YOU DON'T PAY, JUST TURN IT OFF IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT.
>> I THINK THAT'S PART OF TO WHY UTILITY BILLING WAS ASKING FOR A SECOND PERSON BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY OF THOSE ISSUES WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO OUT, THEY NEED TO LOCK A METER OR THEY NEED TO REREAD A METER OR THE CUTOFF LIST AND JUST BEING.
SOMETIMES SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO EVEN GO CUT THE WATER OFF.
WE JUST RUN INTO THOSE ISSUES, BUT AS WE UNCOVER, WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY AND MITIGATE THEM. IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN.
>> I REMEMBER WHEN WE WENT TO THE NEW METERS, THAT QUESTION WAS COME UP ABOUT HABITUAL FOLKS THAT HAVE AN ISSUE, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT I KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS IS, DO WE HAVE A METERS THAT HAVE THE AUTO SHUT OFF THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO IT.
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I THOUGHT WE SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUY JUST A HANDFUL.IF WE IDENTIFIED THOSE FOLKS, WE COULD DO IT WHERE YOU CAN'T GET BACK INTO IT TO TURN IT BACK ON IF YOU'VE GOT ONE OF THOSE T-WRENCHES.
IS THAT A QUESTION? IS THAT STILL A POSSIBILITY? BECAUSE WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BOUNCE FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE, THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
>> I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING AUTOMATIC CUTOFF ON IT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST TRYING TO GET THEM ALL INSTALLED THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND BUY A FEW.
WE'LL PROBABLY NEED AT LEAST 100 OR 200.
>> I REMEMBER IT WAS A SMALL AMOUNT OF NUMBER, IT WASN'T A WHOLE BUNCH, BUT IT WAS GOING TO BE FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT IN CASE WE COULD PROTECT WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT TO GO HAVE RESIDENTS IN ARREARS AND NOT PAY US AND LEAVE US WITH DEBT 3, 5, 600 $800.
>> I'LL SEND A NEW GUY [INAUDIBLE] CAN YOU STAY ON IT QUICKER AND WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
>> ANYWAY WE CAN. THEY DON'T GET WRAPPED UP SOMEHOW.
>> I REMEMBER ONE OF THE METERS WE LOOKED AT.
DEFINITELY MORE EXPENSIVE AND MORE BELLS AND WHISTLES HAVE THAT CAPABILITY WHERE WE CAN TURN IT OFF FROM SITTING IN THE OFFICE.
>> WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO FULLY FUND THE CITY.
>> WE WAS LOOKING FOR LIKE YOU SAID, A HANDFUL OF THEM.
I THINK THE OPTION WE WENT TO HAD THAT CAPABILITY, WE JUST BUY A HANDFUL OF THEM.
THEN I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION ON SUPPLIES I KNOW IT'S EARLY ON THE GAME.
HOW LONG DO THOSE METERS LAST? BECAUSE THERE'S A BATTERY, RIGHT? AT WHAT POINT OR WE'D HAVE TO START LOOKING AT BATTERY CHANGE OUT AND IS THAT BE SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE?
>> I THINK WE HAVE A 20-YEAR WARRANTY.
>> I WANT TO SAY WE ASKED ABOUT THAT.
>> WE PRORATED FROM THEIR OWN, BUT I THINK THE METER ARE ACTUALLY FUNCTION IS A 20-YEAR WARRANTY.
>> BUT THE BATTERY THAT'S HELPS WITH THE TRANSMISSION PIECE THAT LAST 10 YEARS?
>> THE ONE THAT SENDS A SIGNAL LASTS UP TO 20 YEARS.
>> BINGO. BECAUSE I WAS ALREADY THINKING SMOKE ALARM BATTERY CHANGE EVERY SIX MONTHS.
HOW LONG IS THIS BATTERY GOING TO LAST IN THIS THING?
>> WHEN WE LAID IT ALL OUT, LOOKING AT METERS WAS ONE OF THE SELLING POINTS WAS A WARRANTY ON THEM.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON UTILITY, BILLY?
>> DID YOU ALL ANALYZE THE REVENUES, SO MAKING SURE WE'RE ON TARGET FOR AT LEAST THE REVENUES.
I'M LOOKING AT IT HERE, I SEE NUMBERS.
ARE WE ON TARGET, ABOVE TARGET, BELOW TARGET FOR THE WATER REVENUE?
>> YEAH. BECAUSE WE HAD AN INCREASE, RIGHT?
>> RIGHT. WE HAVE HAD AN INCREASE, BUT OF COURSE, SUMMERTIME YOU WILL START USING MORE WATER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING FINE BUT AS FAR AS BY THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE PROJECTIONS, I DON'T ANTICIPATE US ACTUALLY BEING IN A SURPLUS.
>> NO BUT I CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AGAIN AND PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL.
>> BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN THE SECOND ONES.
>> THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN WE DO OUR BUDGET PROCESS, WE ASK THE DEPARTMENTS FOR PROJECTIONS AND BASED ON THE PROJECTIONS OF WHAT I SAW IN THE EXPENSES VERSUS THE REVENUES THAT WE SEE.
WE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE WE WERE PROJECTING TO BE IN A SURPLUS.
>> BECAUSE I KNEW THE INCREASE WAS SO WE CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS IN THE FUTURE WITH THAT INCREASE TO KEEP US MORE HEALTHY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL ANALYZING LOOKING AT IT, THE NUMBER OF POWERS THAT BE.
>> I KNOW THAT'S ONE THING TOO THAT.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT SPEAKING ON THIS YET, BUT WE HAVE A FUTURE I GUESS AUGUST 9TH IS A POTENTIAL ANOTHER BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR US TO HAVE MORE GUIDANCE OR MAKE SOME RESOLUTION ON SOME THINGS.
BUT ALONG WITH THAT 12 PERCENT INCREASE FROM BWA, THAT EXPENSE IS ALREADY CALCULATED IN THE BUDGET IT'S JUST NOT CALCULATED IN THE REVENUE YET BECAUSE THAT HASN'T BEEN DECIDED UPON YET.
I HAVEN'T ENTERED THAT INFORMATION INTO THE BUDGET.
>> BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RATE INCREASE THAT WE DID BEFORE BWA.
REMEMBER WE DID THE WHOLE RATE INCREASE STUDY AND HOW WE CAN GET SOME BETTER BONDING CAPACITY DOWN THE ROAD.
WE NEED TO START WORKING ON THIS.
>> PERFECT. REMEMBER THAT FIRST-YEAR GOT EATEN UP IN THE SHENEGO GROUND STORAGE.
>> THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY WE COULD BOND FOR THAT.
>> WE'RE ON PACE, JUST WE GOT 7,691,000 IN TOTAL REVENUES BUDGETED THIS YEAR.
YEAR-TO-DATE, WE'RE 5,696,610.
THAT'S THROUGH NINE MONTHS AND YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDER 7.6 MILLION?
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>> WELL, THE ONLY REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS WHEN I GO BACK AND I LOOK AT THOSE PROJECTIONS, THAT IS THE THING THAT I WAS SOLELY BASING IT OFF OF BASED OFF OUR REVENUE AND WHATEVER THE DEPARTMENT SAY THEY THINK THEIR EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE.
BUT LIKE I SAY, I CAN REVISIT THAT AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND PRESENT IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
>> IS IT REVENUE PROBLEM OR EXPENSES PROBLEM, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND?
>> I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN EXPENSE PROBLEM VERSUS A REVENUE PROBLEM.
>> ARE WE SEEING ANY INCREASES FROM BWA THIS YEAR AND THIS BUDGET CYCLE THAT IS ABOVE WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO SEND US THIS YEAR?
>> WE'RE STILL CONTRACTED THE SAME AMOUNT.
>> THEIR COSTS ARE NOT GETTING PASSED THROUGH TO US RIGHT NOW.
>> I JUST WANT TO VERIFY THAT.
>> JOHN, I'LL BE THROWING THE SAME AMOUNT OF CHECK, YEAH.
>> THAT'S THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
>> THE NEXT DEPARTMENT THAT WE'LL GO TO IS IN YOUR GENERAL FUND FINANCE BUDGET PAGE 15.
IN THIS BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SALARIES HAVE INCREASED FROM THIS CURRENT BUDGET TO THE PROPOSED OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
A YEAR-TO-DATE NUMBERS ARE BASICALLY AT HALF BUT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THE LOSS OF PERSONNEL, AND SO OUR CONTRACT LABOR NUMBER HAS INCREASED AS THAT OFFSET FOR FINANCE CONSULTANT.
NEXT YEAR FOR THAT PROPOSED BUDGET, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT WE HAVE THERE IS ALSO SOME RECLASSIFICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, THAT I HAVE ALREADY TAKEN INTO EFFECT THERE, AS WELL AS THE GRANT COORDINATOR HAS BEEN MOVED FROM THE ADMIN BUDGET TO THE FINANCE BUDGET, SO THAT IS INCLUDING THAT POSITION THERE.
ALSO, YOU'LL SEE FOR THE MOST PART THE REST OF FINANCE'S BUDGET IS THE SAME.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID HAVE IN THE FINANCE BUDGET WAS 30,000 THAT WE WERE REQUESTING FOR A NEW BUDGET SOFTWARE FOR NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S JUST TO MAKE EVERYTHING EASIER AND HAVE A EASIER FLOW BUT ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR COUNCIL'S DECISION. YES, SIR.
>> WAS THAT SARCASM, OR WAS THAT AVIANA? I CAN READ IT.
>>I KNOW MY BUDGET, I THINK SO.
>> IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FINANCE BUDGET?
>> BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS BUDGET SOFTWARE.
OUR PRIORITY FOR 1-10, I KNOW YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO SAY IT'S A 10.
>> THAT'S YOUR ONLY REQUEST BECAUSE WE REMOVED IT HERE, SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY EITHER TO LEAVE IT, MOVE IT, KEEP IT, KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD.
IN YOUR EXPERIENCE ON WHAT WE HAVE NOW, I GUESS WHAT YOU'VE PROBABLY LOOKED AT TO GET THIS NUMBER, IS IT GOING TO MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER, OUR JOB EASIER?
>> IT'S GOING TO MAKE EVERYONE'S JOB EASIER.
RIGHT NOW THE PROCESS, WELL JUST THIS LAST YEAR, IT WAS THE EXCEL DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT OUT.
BUT WITH THIS BUDGET SOFTWARE, IT'S THE EASIEST SOFTWARE FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO JUST INPUT THEIR INFORMATION, AND THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY FIT TO HOW YOU WANT IT TO SEE.
IT ALSO ALLOWS TRANSPARENCY WHERE IT ACTUALLY POST TO OUR CITY WEBSITE AS WELL FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> SEEING THAT ON WEBSITE THAT CITY BUDGET ON THEIR WEBSITE.
>> YES. WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO GET TO THE POINT OF TRANSPARENCY IN THAT, SO THAT'S WHY THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT FINANCE IS ASKING FOR.
>> IS IT PART OF ENCODE, THE BUDGETING PIECE?
>> NO. THIS BUDGETING PIECE IS NOT PART OF ENCODE, IT'S LIKE A SEPARATE SOFTWARE THAT WORKS WITH ENCODE.
WE LOOKED AT OTHER SOFTWARES BECAUSE ENCODE IT'S THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT BEING ABLE TO REPLACE THAT WHOLE SOFTWARE WOULD COST WAY MORE AND BE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
WE'D RATHER PIECEMEAL IT A LITTLE AT A TIME AND SO WE WON'T HIT THE BUDGET AS HARD.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER. JUST LOOKS SO DOSSIER, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COME OFF A PRINTER WITH THE PERIPHERY AND RUNNING TAB ON THE SLIDE THAT YOU PEEL OFF, WHICH ARE HOLES IN IT. JUST LOOKS SO DOSSIER.
>> I KNOW, BUT THIS STILL LOOKS SO DOSSIER AND NOT 21ST CENTURY.
MY TWO SCENTS. I'M TRYING TO HELP HERE.
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>> YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE FOR MS. DENISE ON THIS ONE?
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. MOVING ON.
THE NEXT DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE NON-DEPARTMENTAL.
IT'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR GENERAL FUND, ALSO ON PAGE 33.
FOR NON-DEPARTMENTAL BASICALLY YOU'LL SEE SOME EXPENSES HERE.
WE BASICALLY, FOR THE MOST PART KEPT THIS THE SAME.
WE HAVE JUST THE LIBRARY CONTRIBUTIONS, THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE ON HERE, BANK CHARGES THAT ARE BUDGETED JUST AS A GENERAL NUMBER.
THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE ANGLETON UNIVERSITY THAT IS NEW ON HERE THAT IS BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR THAT WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED.
WE DO HAVE ANOTHER $6,000 EXPENSE FOR ANGLETON UNIVERSITY FOR NEXT YEAR.
THEN OF COURSE, NON-DEPARTMENT MISCELLANEOUS ARE 45.
THE REASON WHY I SAY ALSO THAT NON-DEPARTMENT MISCELLANEOUS ARE 45 IS THERE, IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN ASKED FROM MY GRANT COORDINATOR IS TO HAVE A PLACEHOLDER FOR ANY GRANT APPLICATIONS OR PRE-WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SHE FEELS LIKE THAT NUMBER IS USUALLY GOING TO BE ABOUT $70,000.
THIS WILL BE AT THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL, OF COURSE, BUT THIS IS A FORTE WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD COME FROM, ABOUT 45,000.
>> WHAT'S THE CREDIT OF 207,000?
>> I JUST THINK THAT WAS ENTRY ERROR SOMEWHERE.
>> WHERE DOES IT BELONG, CAN YOU FIND OUT?
>> I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THAT REALLY BELONGS BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF CREDIT.
>> I HAD NOT SEEN THIS PIECE OF THE BUDGET YET WHEN I ASKED YOUR QUESTION, WHAT DO OTHER CITIES DO AND THIS WAS THE ANSWER RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU.
>> THEN ALSO, WE DO HAVE ON HERE, THIS WAS A ROLLOVER FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE 162,000 FOR THE COMP PLAN, THE COMP PLAN IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN YOUR BUDGET ITEM.
THIS IS A POTENTIAL SAVINGS RIGHT HERE THAT WE CAN HAVE FOR TO ADD BACK TO OUR SUO SIX FOR OUR GENERAL FUND.
>> THAT'S GREAT. [LAUGHTER] THAT IS THE END OF YOUR NON-DEPARTMENTAL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ANSWER.
MOVING ON. NEXT DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE THE TAX DEPARTMENT AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ON PAGE 13 IN YOUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
THIS IS BASICALLY TO KEEP IT NICE, SIMPLE, AND SHORT, IT'S JUST TWO ITEMS, TWO LINE ITEMS FOR THIS DEPARTMENT AND THIS IS BASICALLY PAYMENTS BRAZORIA COUNTY FOR PROCESSING OF OUR ADMIN FEES.
WE JUST KEPT THAT NUMBER THE SAME FOR APPRAISALS.
NEXT BUDGET WE HAVE IS GOING TO BE ON PAGE 29 OF THE GENERAL FUND.
THIS IS DEBT SERVICE, I LIKE TO CALL IT FLEET SERVICE.
[LAUGHTER] DOES THOUGH IT DOESN'T GET CONFUSED WITH OUR ACTUAL DEBT FUND.
BUT THIS IS WHERE THE ENTERPRISE VEHICLE LEASES.
ON THIS PAGE, AS YOU CAN TELL, ON YOUR ORIGINAL ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BACKED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, THE 373 FOR THE ENTERPRISE OF 23 NEW ENTERPRISE VEHICLE LEASES WAS BACKED OUT.
ORIGINALLY ON THIS YEAR, IT WAS BUDGETED FOR 300,000, AND IT'S SO FAR YEAR-TO-DATE, WE'RE AT 270,000.
THAT NUMBER IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE OVER, AND SO WE WANT IT TO BE REALISTIC IN OUR NUMBERS FOR NEXT YEAR, SO THAT 346 IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO SPEND THIS YEAR.
THAT 373,000 FOR THE ADDITIONAL NEW LEASE VEHICLES IS GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL 373,000 ON TOP OF THIS 346,000.
YOU HAVE A QUOTE OF 205,000 THAT'S TO BE REIMBURSED BACK TO THE CITY FOR THE ITEMS THAT WILL BE SOLD, BUT REMEMBER THAT IS A ONE-TIME EXPENSE.
THIS 346 PLUS THE 373 IS GOING TO BE YOUR YEARLY EXPENSES FOR THOSE LEASED VEHICLES.
>> BACK TO THAT. BUT IF WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO IT,
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THE 373 FOR THE 23 VEHICLES.>> THEY'VE BEEN ORDERED BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY'VE ARRIVED AND WE DON'T WANT TWO OF THEM, I'M SURE THEY WILL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
>> THEN WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GUARANTEE WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM THIS NEXT 12 MONTHS IF IT SHOWS UP IN 12 MONTHS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.
>> WE JUST ORDERED [OVERLAPPING] THEM SO WE COULD BE EARLY IN [OVERLAPPING] LINE.
>> WE ARE AT WORK. IT'S ALSO ENTERPRISE CONTRACT AND THEY PUT IN OUR ORDER IN NOVEMBER AND LAST MONTH THEY FINALLY GOT PROBABLY FOR LIKE 10 VEHICLES AND THREE OF THEM JUST WENT INTO PRODUCTION LAST MONTH.
THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF POSSIBILITY OF WHAT WE'LL BE SEEING.
>> I CAN WORK WITH COLLEEN AND SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING LIKE REALISTICALLY ON THAT NUMBER OF THE 373,000 SO WE CAN ADJUST THAT NUMBER IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
>> WE DON'T HAVE STICKER SHOCK, NO PUN INTENDED. [LAUGHTER]
>> ARE YOU SURE? SOUNDED LIKE PUN.
SEEMS LIKE IT'S VERY INTENDED.
>> IT'S EARLY. IT'S ONLY 9:10.
>> THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FOR MY BUDGET HERE AND CHRIS ALSO HAS HIS ADMIN BUDGET THAT HE'LL BE DISCUSSING.
NOT SURE IF YOU WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK OVER OUR WATER REVENUE OR OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE, BUT I ALSO HAVE AN EXCEL DOCUMENT SHOWING WHAT COUNCIL DID ASK FOR ON SATURDAY AS FAR AS THOSE DIFFERENT TAX RATES AND WHAT THAT WOULD GENERATE.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN NOW FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
>> CAN YOU? I GOT TO SEE CLOSER. [INAUDIBLE]
>> YOU WANT TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE? AS YOU CAN SEE, IF WE KEPT IT AT THE CURRENT TAX RATE AND YOU KNOW WHAT? DOES THIS HAVE A LITTLE STRIPS. I'LL ADD OKAY TO IT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CURRENT TAX RATE OF 0.633041, IF WE WERE TO KEEP THAT TAX RATE THE SAME IN THE GREEN, YOU WOULD SEE THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE $1.24 MILLION IN OUR BUDGET.
ALSO, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE DEBT SERVICE IS AT THAT 1,510,000 AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS ARE FOR NEXT YEAR WITH THE NEW $10 MILLION BOND WE JUST RECEIVED.
WE KEEP THAT AT 103.38 PERCENT SO WE CAN HAVE THAT CUSHION IN THERE IN CASE FOR SOME REASON WE GO OUT FOR ANOTHER BOND WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE EXPENSES BUDGET FOR, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY CAPTURE THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
OUT OF THAT TAX RATE WE TAKE OUT THAT 103.38 PERCENT OF DEBT SERVICE, WHICH IS THAT 1,561,755.
IF YOU ADD THE CURRENT TAX RATE, WE WOULD HAVE 1.2 MILLION EXTRA FOR OUR BUDGET NEXT YEAR.
WITH THE DROP OF THREE CENTS IT CAME OUT TO AN ADDITIONAL 604,000.
I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE IN THE PAST IT'S USUALLY DROPPED ABOUT $0.03.
IF YOU DROP THE $0.05 YOU COME OUT TO EXTRA 320,000.
THEN IF YOU DROP THE $0.06, YOU WILL COME OUT TO AN EXTRA 179,000, AND IF YOU DROP $0.07 YOU WOULD HAVE AN EXTRA 37,000 IN YOUR BUDGET.
NOW THE HIGHER VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS AT 0.564, WHICH IS COLUMN H THERE AS YOU CAN SEE.
THAT IS THE HIGHER VOTER APPROVAL RATE.
ANYTHING ABOVE THAT RATE OR AT THAT RATE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION FOR APPROVAL.
>> THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, HOW MUCH AND WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER,
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IT WAS 1.7 MILLION ADDITIONAL REVENUE THIS YEAR ON THE TAX ROLLS.THEN IF YOU WERE TO SAY LEAVE THE TAX RATE ALONE, YOU GET AN EXTRA, WHAT WAS IT, 1.3, IS WHAT SHE SAID?
>> ONE POINT TWO, SO 2.9 MILLION ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN TOTAL?
I'M NOT SURE IF COUNCIL JUST WANTS TO CHEW ON THIS AND THEN THINK ON IT AND WE BRING IT BACK UP AT THE AUGUST 9TH MEETING SINCE THE CHARTER DOES ALLOW THE 60 DAYS INSTEAD OF THE 90 DAYS, BUT THAT COUNCIL'S OPTION.
>> [NOISE] MY OPINION WOULD BE THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO START ZEROING IN ON A NUMBER BECAUSE THEN IT HELPS US DETERMINE WHAT ELSE GOES BACK INTO THE BUDGET.
>> WE WAIT TILL AUGUST, WE'LL BE PUTTING OURSELVES IN A REALLY LONG NIGHT.
>> NOW, I WILL SAY TO THOSE WHO WAIT FOR AUGUST, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR CERTIFIED NUMBERS, SO YOUR NUMBERS WILL BE MORE ACCURATE BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THOSE FROM THE COUNTY BY THEN.
I'VE GOT SOMETHING HERE FROM MY COMPANY THAT I PREPARE EACH BUDGET CYCLE.
IT SHOWS YOU'RE BRIDGING FROM ONE PERIOD TO THE NEXT AND THE CHANGES.
FOR ME TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, I NEED TO SEE A BRIDGE THAT SHOWS FROM THE DIFFERENT FUNDS THE CHANGES IN REVENUE BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE ADDITIONAL 1.7 MILLION.
WHERE IS IT ALL GOING? I JUST WANT ONE PAGE THAT JUST LINES OUT, HERE'S WHAT WE WERE, THIS IS ALL SALARIES AND WAGES.
VERY HIGH LEVEL, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, WHATEVER THIS IS, CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHATEVER IT IS THAT LINES IT OUT BY FUND THAT GOES DOWN TO SHOW ME WHERE I'M GOING TO GO TO.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ALL OF THE COUNCIL TO JUST HAVE A QUICK, WHERE'S THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE GOING, AND THEN UNDERSTAND, WHAT DO WE NEED TO ADD BACK IN, AND THEN HOW DO WE GET BACK TO THAT VALUE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'VE GONE THROUGH THE NUMBERS, BUT IT'S EVERYWHERE AND WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS MOVING FROM ONE ACCOUNT TO THE OTHER, PERSONAL TIME, LINE ITEMS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US.
BECAUSE BEFORE I CAN SUPPORT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE, I'VE GOT TO SEE WHERE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS IS GOING.
>> JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, JOHN, SINCE THIS IS MY THIRD BUDGET MEETING AND WE'RE ON MY THIRD FINANCE DIRECTOR SINCE WE'RE HERE, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN WAY OF PRESENTING IT.
WHICH REQUIRES US TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE TRYING TO SEE IT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
>> I THINK SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.
>> SHE'S DOING GREAT. THAT'S NOT MY POINT.
MY POINT IS JUST EVERYBODY EXPRESSES THINGS JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY SO THAT'S ALL.
>> YEAH. BUT JUST FROM A FINANCIAL SIDE, IT MUDDIES IT UP FOR ME.
WHERE IT USED TO BE HERE, NOW IT'S OVER HERE.
THE HEADCOUNT THING I'M STILL NOT SOLD ON.
I'M STILL UNSURE WHERE THIS IS; THE SEASONAL VERSUS THE HAT, THE PART-TIME VERSUS THE FULL-TIME.
I THINK I'LL FEEL A LOT BETTER IF I CAN UNDERSTAND THE PAYROLL CHANGES BETWEEN ALL OF THEM.
BECAUSE I DO THINK, AND JASON, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, 1.7 IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF NEW REVENUE WE'VE EVER HAD IN ONE FISCAL YEAR.
WE'VE MADE BUDGET WITH LESS, MUCH LESS.
>> I'D SAY 200, 300, 400, BUT NEVER IN THE MILLIONS.
>> BUT WE KNOW LAST YEAR I REMEMBER HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
WE WERE GOING TO BE ADDING POSITIONS ON APRIL 1ST.
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WE WERE ADVANCING OUR COMP STUDY.WE KNEW THEN THAT OUR BUDGET WOULD BE LARGELY EATEN UP IN SALARY, WHETHER WE ADDED NEW POSITIONS OR NOT.
THE COMPOSITION, THE RATE ADJUSTMENTS WAS GOING TO EAT INTO AND I THINK THE GENERAL CONSENSUS HAS BEEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPETITIVE.
WE UNDERSTOOD WE HAD THE CONVERSATION ON SATURDAY ABOUT FOR SOME PEOPLE BEING A STEPPING STONE.
HOPE SOME OF YOU-ALL ARE NOT STEPPING STONERS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS AND WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT THAT.
>> I UNDERSTAND. I REMEMBER HAVING THAT GNAWING SENSATION IN MY STOMACH LAST YEAR THAT WE WERE GOING TO REALIZE THE FRUITION WHILE POSITIVE, THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ADDING HOPEFULLY NEEDED POSITIONS.
YOU-ALL ARE TELLING US THIS IS NEEDED.
WE'RE TAKING YOUR WORD THAT WE'RE VALUABLE POSITIONS NEEDED FOR THIS CITY TO RUN AT A HIGHER FUNCTIONAL LEVEL.
BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE, WE WERE PAYING A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SALARIES AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH INFLATION, WE NEED TO STILL CONTINUE ON THAT PATH.
>> WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING COMPETITIVE RATE ADJUSTMENT, SOME MERIT-BASED OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STICK HOPEFULLY WITH US A LITTLE BIT LONGER AND THEY CAN INVEST IN US AND WE INVEST IN THEM AND VICE VERSA AND WE GET A BETTER PRODUCT.
I DON'T KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF IT'S BEEN IN THIS BUDGET IS WHILE WE HAD ALL THESE FINANCIAL GROWTH, WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
I JUST REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION WITH MY SHERIFF. HE WAS COMING BACK.
>> I JUST APPRECIATE THAT THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE A LITTLE MORE EXPLORATORY.
WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT MORE NEEDS.
IT'S ALWAYS THE ISSUE OF BUDGET TIME.
THERE'S ALWAYS MORE NEEDS THAN FUNDING.
BY WHAT WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO FULFILL MORE NEEDS THAN WE PROBABLY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
BUT INFLATION IS DRIVING SOME OF THAT FOR US.
THE JOB MARKET IS DRIVING THAT FOR US.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE BEST EDUCATED DECISION, LIKE JOHN SAID, TO SEE HE'S THE MONEY GUY.
HE'S GOT IT IN HERE AROUND THE BALANCE MY OWN CHECKBOOK KIND OF GUY BARELY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE GOT THE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN SAVE THE TAXPAYERS SOME FUNDING BUT STILL KEEP THE CITY MOVING FORWARD COMPETITIVE, KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES HAPPY, BUY THE NECESSITY THINGS, PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW THAT OUR TEETER TOTTERING OF WE GOT TO GET FIXED IT NOW OR CAN IT LAST ANOTHER YEAR? THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING AT.
THE MORE INFORMATION, TANISHA, YOU CAN GIVE US, LIKE JOHN SAID, A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT DOES THE BUDGET LOOK LIKE NOW? NOT WITH ALL THE FRILLS.
HELP ME OUT, JEFF, IF I'M SAYING IT WRONG.
WHAT'S THE DEFICIT? WHERE WE AT THAT MAKES US DECIDE WHERE DO WE FLOAT ON THIS CHART BASED ON, WE'VE MOVED HERE, WE'VE TURNED OFF HERE, WE'VE NOT DONE THIS HERE? WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT BOTTOM NUMBER THAT GETS US TO THAT.
YOU'VE ALREADY SAID WE'RE AROUND $42 MILLION.
ARE WE THERE? ARE WE BELOW IT? ARE WE ABOVE IT? HOW DO WE SUPPLEMENT TO GET IT THERE, WITHIN ONE OF THESE RATES.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE, IS THAT LEVEL ONCE YOU'VE MADE ALL THESE ADJUSTMENTS.
I REMEMBER, JOHN, I HATE THIS, WE ALWAYS SAW WHERE SUSIE SAT OVER HERE, SHE'S PUNCHING NUMBERS AND WE'RE WATCHING THAT NUMBER GO UP AND DOWN AND UP AND DOWN, AND WE GO, LOOK, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
NOW HERE'S THE TAX RATE TO SUPPORT THAT.
WE'RE JUST SEEING ALL OVER THE PLACE RIGHT NOW.
I GET THAT FOR JOHN'S SAKE BECAUSE HE IS A NUMBERS GUY.
BUT FOR US IT WAS EASIER TO SEE THAT FLUCTUATION; BAM, WE'RE THERE.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT THIS MUCH.
BUT THE WISH-LIST IS STILL DOWN HERE.
DO WE HAVE SOME MONEY TO GIVE UP SOME OF THE WISH LIST? YEAH. THAT'S WHY I SEE THIS BUDGETING GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
>> RIGHT. I DO WANT TO SAY SO PART OF THAT IS IN YOUR BUDGET YOU SEE THAT THERE WAS ALREADY A $206,000 SURPLUS.
THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED IN THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE OF THE NO NEW REVENUE.
WE STILL HAD THAT 206,000 IF WE BACKED OUT THOSE OTHER THINGS.
WITH TONIGHT, I DID START IN EXCEL WHILE I WAS SITTING OVER THERE AND COUNSEL WAS GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE ITEMS WITH OUR TEAM SAYING, YEAH, WE WANT THIS, WE WANT THIS.
AS I GET THAT DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL ON WHAT ITEMS YOU DO WANT TO PUT IN THERE.
I CAN ABSOLUTELY PLUG THOSE NUMBERS IN.
I CAN TELL YOU FROM TONIGHT, JUST FROM AFTER IT, THAT 206,000 WENT TO 32,000 SURPLUS.
THAT'S JUST WITH PLUGGING IN IT NUMBERS, NOT ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
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I CAN ABSOLUTELY SHOW YOU WHAT THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE BUT I THINK PART OF THAT PROCESS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS WHERE YOU'RE SAYING, I DON'T KNOW, BASED ON THIS LIST, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS, WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT, AND THEN I CAN PLUG THOSE NUMBERS IN AND COME TO YOU AND SAY YOU HAVE A DEFICIT OF THIS MUCH SO THIS TAX RATE IS WHAT SUPPORTS COVERING THAT.>> YEAH. MY THING IS WE JUST STARTED THE NO NEW REVENUE.
FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO ADD IN AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO INCREASE, THEN WE HAVE TO INCREASE AT THAT POINT.
BUT TO START AT THE NO NEW REVENUE, FIGURE OUT THAT PORTION FIRST AND THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT.
BUT I LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE AND I LIKE THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND WHAT IT'S DOING.
>> BUT WE HAVE STARTED AT THE NO NEW REVENUE.
>> RIGHT. BUT JUST PLUS THE ITEMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDED JUST ALL IN ONE SPREADSHEET SHOWING THAT KIND OF THING.
>> YOU-ALL CAN HELP US TOO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, WE SAY WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH COLA.
OUR THOUGHT IS X, Y, AND Z, AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE'RE GOING TO DO RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN ADD THAT IN AND SEE WHERE THE NUMBER ENDS UP SO WE CAN SAY NOW LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAUNDRY LIST OF OTHER THINGS.
LET'S ADD THEM IN, SEE WHERE THAT COMES OUT DOLLAR-WISE AND THEN WHAT THAT TRANSLATES INTO.
>> TO HELP US GET TO THAT, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT COLA, THAT'S THE BIG PIECE.
MAYBE IF WE HAVE THESE GUYS GET SOME BETTER DIRECTION, SAY, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW? YOU'VE DONE IT.
YOU ALREADY TOLD US WHAT, IF WE DO THIS, PUT THAT OPTION OFF TO THE SIDE.
BUT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW SUPPORTING A COLA OF X AND THEN WE KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE; PLAN A, PLAN B, PLAN C, LIST THAT, WE KNOW WE CAN PROBABLY GO HERE BY GOING TO ONE OF THESE TO GET US THE BETTER OPTION.
>> MAYBE WE COULD DO THAT. I'VE HEARD HER SAY THREE PERCENT, FOUR PERCENT, I'VE HEARD HER SAY A 50,000K EMPLOYEE, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THIS, MOVE THIS.
MAYBE TONIGHT WE GET A LITTLE BIT HARDER STANCE ON THAT PIECE BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIG CHUNK.
WE HEARD A NUMBER OF $500,000 OR SOMETHING.
LET'S START CHOPPING AT THAT, THAT MAY GIVE US OUR BETTER NUMBER TO THE BOTTOM LINE.
THEN LIKE JOHN SAID WE'VE GOT THOSE PIECES ADDED IN THAT WE HAVE TO NOT TO AND THEN THAT GETS US [OVERLAPPING].
>> LEFT OR RIGHT OR STAY TO THE LEFT.
I SAY START AT FOUR PERCENT, GIRLS, I'M SORRY, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD GUYS, BUT GIRLS AND GUYS FOUR PERCENT, BUT THEN GIVE US THOSE CADILLAC OPTIONS OFF TO THE SIDE.
IF WE KNOW WE HAVE AN EXTRA 200,000, WE CAN PICK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHAT DO YOU WANT?
>> MY TWO CENTS, JUST TO GET THE BALL ROLLING, GET THE MOMENTUM GOING.
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE CRUNCHING HERE SOON AND I DON'T WANT TO GET CRUNCHED TOO MUCH TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
>> NICOLE IS ON TOP OF WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO RECEIVE IN THE PHASE 3, RIGHT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO SO THE COLA IS EITHER YOU GET THE FOUR PERCENT COLA, OR THE CURRENT PHASE, [OVERLAPPING] WHICHEVER ONE IS GREATER.
>> WHERE DO WE GO TO FIGURE THAT OUT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] SHE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THAT NUMBER.
>> WHEN WE ROLLED OUT THE COMP PLAN, WE HAVE A WAGE RANGE ASSIGNED TO EACH CLASSIFICATION.
WE HAVE TEARED THAT UP INTO 10-YEAR SPREAD.
A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, DEPENDING ON YOUR CLASS, IS WHAT YOU'LL INCREMENTALLY RECEIVE IF YOU'RE HERE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR, TWO, OR THREE, OR FOUR.
FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE A YEAR, YOU HAVEN'T HIT THAT FIRST-YEAR INCREMENTAL, YOU WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR COLA.
SOME PEOPLE, FOR WHATEVER REASON IT HAS BEEN, THEY MAYBE MAKE A LITTLE MORE OR A LITTLE LESS THAN THEY WOULD HAVE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY CAME IN AND BECAUSE OUR RANGES SHIFT.
WE CALCULATE OUT THE WHOLE TIER OF THE SPREAD AND THEN WE CALCULATE OUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE COLA AND WE SEE WHICH ONE IS HIGHER FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL.
MOST INDIVIDUALS, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE CAME UP WITH ARE IN THE COLA RANGE.
>> ONE ADVANCE IN LEVEL, THAT'S AN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN DOING.
>> [OVERLAPPING] RIGHT. WE HAVE HAD TALKS WITH A FEW DEPARTMENTS ABOUT CREATING STEP PLANS.
WE HAVE NOT ROLLED OUT ANY STEP PLANS AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE ONE THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH AND DEVELOPED LAST YEAR WITH PUBLIC WORKS THAT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT'S BEING ROLLED OUT THIS YEAR IN YOUR BUDGET? I BELIEVE. I'M WORKING ON ONE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.
>> WELL, I GUESS, REALLY, WHAT I WAS STATING WAS WHEN YOU GET CLASSIFIED INTO THE NEXT HIGHER PAY SCALE.
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THAT'S BECAUSE YOU BECOME A BETTER EMPLOYEE.YOU STILL HAVE COSTS TO LIVING OUT THERE THAT'S [OVERLAPPING] NO NOBODY ELSE'S EXPERIENCE.
>> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT OUR COMP PLAN ISN'T DEVELOPED LIKE THAT.
IF SOMEONE GOES INTO ANOTHER WAGE RANGE, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN PROMOTED OR THEY'VE SUBMITTED A POSITION DESCRIPTION QUESTIONNAIRE THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED TO SEE IF THAT POSITION, BASED ON THEIR NEW JOB DUTIES IS RECLASSIFIED.
THEN IF THEY ARE, THEY HAVE A NEW WAGE RANGE BASED ON THAT CLASSIFICATION CODE.
>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT COMMENT I HAD SATURDAY WAS THAT I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR OUR LOWER SALARIED OR WAGED EARNERS TO GET EVER BEEN AT THAT FOUR PERCENT.
I'M LOOKING AT A PERSON THAT HE, SHE MAKES $50,000 A YEAR, THEY GET FOUR PERCENT.
WHAT'S FOUR PERCENT OF $50,000? THEY MAKE $100,000.
THAT'S A DOUBLE. YOU PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU DO IN LIFE, BUT I DO WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR SOME OF THE LOWER SALARIED PEOPLE.
>> WHICH PART DO YOU AGREE WITH?
>> ADVOCATING, SAME AS MR. BOOTH.
>> THAT MEANS DO YOU WANT TO DO A HIGHER PERCENT, OR [OVERLAPPING] 50,000 AND BELOW?
>> I WOULD ACTUALLY EVEN SAY 60,000.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I WAS JUST PICKING A NUMBER.
>> WHAT IF EVERYBODY GOT A FLAT RAISE OF $2,400?
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHY WOULD WE?
>> BECAUSE $2,500 ON SOMEBODY WHO MAKES $30,000 VERSUS SOMEBODY WHO MAKES IT'S GREATER PERCENTAGE AND THEN EVERYBODY GOT THE SAME RAISE.
TWO DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES, BUT YOU GOT THE SAME RAISE.
EVERYBODY GOT A FLAT RAISE, A FAIR RAISE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WELL, MOST OF YOUR TOP EARNERS ARE GOING TO BE IN A WAGING CLASS COMP STUDY, RIGHT, COLLIN?
>> MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, LET'S JUST SAY OVER 60,000, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT GROUP ARE MOSTLY GOING TO BE IN THE CLASS IN COMP PHASE 3, RIGHT? THEY WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE FOUR PERCENT COLA.
>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION I GUESS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM EITHER FOUR PERCENT COLA OR THE WAGE BECAUSE YOU SAID IT'S ONE OF THE OTHER, RIGHT?
>> CORRECT. [OVERLAPPING] OH, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE FOUR PERCENT.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE FOUR PERCENT.
>> I'M NOT TRYING TO SELL ANYBODY SHORT.
AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU AND MR. BOOTH HAVE STATED, WHICH IS $2,500 FOR SOMEBODY MAKING 35 GRAND.
IF THE COMP STUDY GETS YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE, THEN DO THE COMP STUDY, AND FILL THAT SO THAT WE'RE STAYING ON OUR STUDY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IF WE DO THE 2,500, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING FOR EVERYONE-
>> [OVERLAPPING] I JUST THREW IN THAT NUMBER BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, WHAT I'M THINKING IS ROUGHLY $200 EXTRA A MONTH FOR SOMEBODY, WHICH, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE MAKING 35,000, $200 EXTRA A MONTH PROBABLY GOES SIGNIFICANT WAYS MORE THAN.
>> WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IF YOU DO THAT, I KNOW THE INTENT BEHIND IT, THEN ANYBODY OVER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD ONLY GETS THAT, NOT THAT OR THE COMP STUDY BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE RIGHT BACK IN THE POSITION.
THEY WILL GET A LARGER RAISE BECAUSE THEY MAKE MORE MONEY IN THAT COMP RANGE. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> YEAH. I KNOW SOME CITIES HAVE DONE THAT.
>> I'M OKAY WITH IF IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO DO A DIFFERENT FIGURE LIKE FIVE PERCENT FOR UNDER 50, THREE PERCENT ABOVE 50, AND THAT'S EIGHT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] OR YOU CAN EVEN DO THREE TIERS; CERTAIN AMOUNT UNDER 50 AND THEN 50-70 SOMETHING.
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>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT COULD WORK TOO.
I WANT US TO STAY ROUGHLY AT WHICH ALL HAVE FIGURED IN IN THE FOUR, BUT WE CAN TIER IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE EVERY DEPARTMENT'S CATERING INTO THIS FOUR PERCENT, BUT THAT WAY IT DOESN'T BLOAT THE SALARY SO MUCH THAT WE STILL HAVE THOSE OPTIONS TO SPEND SOME OF THAT ON WHAT HAS BEEN POISED TO US AS NEEDED OPTIONS IN THE DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN WE CAN SPREAD SOME MONEYS TO EACH DEPARTMENT.
>> WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M TRYING TO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M JUST TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE REST OF THE FOLKS.
>> THE HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUM COSTS FOR EACH EMPLOYEE, THAT NUMBER IS GOING UP ALSO, CORRECT?
>> WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR, BUT, IT'S GOING TO GO UP FOR THE CITY.
RIGHT NOW 19.5 AS THE ESTIMATE.
MOST CITIES HAVE GONE UP 25 PERCENT.
>> WHAT TO BREAK DOWN IS WHAT THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTES AND WHAT THE CITY CONTRIBUTES TO THE PREMIUMS EACH MONTH.
>> AN EMPLOYEE ONLY ON A PPO PLAN CONTRIBUTES ABOUT $22 AND THE CITY PAYS ABOUT 1800.
>> IF THEY HAVE DEPENDENT COVERAGE?
>> IF THEY HAVE DEPENDENT COVERAGE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE DIFFERENTIAL.
NOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT, BUT WE DO CONTRIBUTE A DIFFERENTIAL, AND THEN THEIRS IS MUCH HIGHER.
NOW, THIS YEAR WHEN WE ROLLED OUT THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, IT DID DRIVE DOWN THE COST OF DEPENDENT COVERAGE.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE HOPEFULS BEHIND THAT BECAUSE OUR PLAN WAS NOT AFFORDABLE FOR DEPENDENT COVERAGE.
IT WAS RUNNING ABOUT $1,100 A PAYCHECK FOR FAMILY.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO WALK AWAY FROM THE TABLE.
AT LEAST GIVE SOME DIRECTION SO WE CAN START GETTING CLOSER TO THAT.
WHAT'S GOING TO BE THAT NUMBER SO THAT WE CAN CHEW ON THAT NUMBER UP THERE AS WELL? I LIKE EVERYBODY'S IDEA.
SHOWS GOOD FAITH. WE'RE HERE FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL TORN ABOUT IS, HOW DO WE HELP EACH EMPLOYEE FROM THE LOWEST CLASSIFICATION TO A HIGH CLASSIFICATION?
>> DO YOU KNOW THE MEDIAN SALARY?
>> OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WOULD GUESS IT'S ABOUT 62.
WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT POPULATION THAT MAKES BETWEEN 30 AND 48.
>> THAT'S WHY WE PICKED THAT 50.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT 50 THRESHOLD?
>> LIKE EVEN COUNCILMAN'S TRAVIS IDEA, TIER IT TO A THREE-LEVEL THAT MEET YOUR OBJECTIVES, CECIL, AND EVEN JOHN, MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE.
HELP BECAUSE I'LL BE HONEST AND FRANK, THOSE PEOPLE ARE GREATLY AFFECTED MAYBE THAN SOMEBODY WHO IS A HIGH WAGE EARNER, WHICH IT IS WHAT IT IS.
IF THAT HELPS OUT, DO A TIERED EFFECT.
>> MAYBE COME BACK WITH A 532?
AGAIN, I DON'T WANT US TO BE SINKING OURSELVES JUST ON SALARY, BUT MAN, IF YOU MAKE LESS THAN $35,000, I'D MOSTLY BE OKAY WITH SIX.
GO LOOK, DO THE MATH REAL QUICK ON WHAT THAT IS.
[OVERLAPPING] ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING SUCH HIGH INFLATION AND YOU ARE GETTING EATEN UP, I WOULD WAY RATHER SACRIFICE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] DON'T MIND MAKING 16.82 AN HOUR.
>> YEAH, BUT I WOULD WAY RATHER SACRIFICE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THEIR POCKETS AND MAYBE IT'S 642.
MAYBE. BUT I DON'T LIKE SET IT AT 40, ANYTHING 39.99.
OR LESS. IF IT SITS BETWEEN 40 AND 60, YOU GET FOUR.
ABOVE THAT, YOU GET TWO [OVERLAPPING] OR FIVE SOMETHING.
WHAT IS YOUR LOWEST STARTING SALARY, APPROXIMATELY? FULL-TIME? FULL-TIME.
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NOT INCLUDING SEASONAL.ABOUT 31? THAT JUST GOT ADJUSTED LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING A HARD TIME FILLING A POSITION AND I WENT TO MARKET BECAUSE THEY WERE MAKING IN THE 20S.
I SAID, THIS HAS GOT TO CHANGE, SO THE CITY MANAGER AUTHORIZED THE ADJUSTMENT ON THAT.
DO YOU HAVE A GOODLY PORTION NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THAT RANGE OR? [OVERLAPPING] NO, I HAVE ABOUT NINE PEOPLE THAT MAKE IN THE VERY LOW 30S.
I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE ON CERTAIN SLOTS.
FOURTEEN AN HOUR TO 16 AN HOUR, 17 AN HOUR.
I DON'T KNOW SALARY FOLKS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT OUR HOURLY FOLKS.
YEAH, I CAN BREAK ANYTHING DOWN TO THAT.
HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE WE LOOKING AT? I JUST PICKED 35,000 FOR THEM AND AT SIX PERCENT, IT'S $2,100.
WE HAVEN'T HIT THAT $2,100 A MONTH.
NO, I KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. INFLATION IS A TAX ON THE POOR.
I MEAN IT IT. IT HITS THE PEOPLE WITH THE LOWEST INCOMES THE HARDEST.
ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KEEP THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING, AND A LOT OF THESE JOBS ARE VERY TOUGH JOBS. [OVERLAPPING].
LET'S CONSIDER EXPLORING TRYING TO MATCH INFLATION AS BEST AS WE CAN.
WE CAN'T PROBABLY MATCH IT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST GET IT CLOSER.
THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HEAR ON THE NEWS AREN'T ANYWHERE NEAR REALITY.
CAN YOU ALL HELPED ME REPHRASE IT? YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE MIGHT NEED TO KNOW THAT HOW MANY ARE IN EACH PRICE.
[OVERLAPPING] I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE THEM AN IDEA.
YEAH, GIVE US THE FRAMEWORK SO THAT WE CAN GET AT A COST.
MAYBE THAT NUMBER ISN'T ACTUALLY 40.
MAYBE THE NEXT NUMBER IS NOT ACTUALLY 60, IT'S 65 OUT OR MAYBE IT'S 58.
I DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO BE A PSYCHIC, BUT CAN YOU FEEL US OUT HERE? [LAUGHTER].
[OVERLAPPING] JUST 642 WILL START AT THE 39.99 AND THEN GO TO THE NEXT ONE AT 59.99 IN RESPECTIVE AND THEN TWO IS THE 70 ON UP.
THEN TELL US HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THAT IS.
HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE IN? JUST LUMP IT FOR US.
DO THE BEST YOU CAN IN A THREE OR SOUR DOLLAR PRICE RANGE ON HOURLY FOCUS.
WHO KNOWS, WE MAY ONLY BE AFFECTING 20 PEOPLE, BUT THEN WE MAY BE AFFECTING 50 IN THAT LOWER AREA.
[OVERLAPPING] UNDER 50, YOU'LL BE AFFECTING A LOT.
YEAH. IF YOU COULD SEND US THE ACTUAL SPREADSHEET AND THEN WE CAN JUST ON OUR OWN TIME, JUST FIDDLE WITH THE NUMBERS.
I WILL SEND YOU THE DATA WAY AHEAD OF TIME SO YOU ALL CAN SEE WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
THEN THAT'LL START DRILLING DOWN TO THAT FINITE NUMBER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO TO GET TO THAT NUMBER.
[OVERLAPPING] MY PRIORITY WOULD BE TO HELP [OVERLAPPING] SALARIES, BUT STILL LEAVING US SOME DISCRETIONARY FUNDS TO AGAIN ADDRESS EACH DEPARTMENT WHEN WE CAN.
WHETHER IT'S A PEN TEST HERE, WHETHER IT'S SOME SIDEWALKS THERE.
A LAWN MOWER OR FRONT-LOADER OR WHATEVER WE'RE ARGUING.
BUT LET'S TRY TO FIND SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
WE'RE ALSO SAYING THAT IN 642 SCENARIO, IF IT'S HIGHER THAN THAT, YOU GO TO THE COMP NUMBER.
I THINK WE'VE GOT TO STAY ON THE STUDY AS BEST AS WE CAN.
WE PAID FOR IT. WE'RE GOING TO USE IT. [OVERLAPPING] WELL, IT KEEPS US COMPETITIVE. [OVERLAPPING] HONESTLY, I GET A LITTLE BIT ANGST ABOUT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD TILL HALFWAY THROUGH THE BUDGET YEAR SO WE CAN MEET IT.
I DOESN'T HELP THAT GUY OR THAT GIRL OUT THERE.
NO, I AM NOT THINKING ABOUT KICKING.
WE'VE GOT TO RAISE AS SOON AS IT POSSIBLY CAN GET TO WORK.
WHAT I'D ALSO LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER, IS THOSE ADDED POSITIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED, CONSIDER DRILLING DOWN AND FINDING WHAT ONES ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO START ON OCTOBER THE 1ST,
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WHICH ONES CAN START ON APRIL THE 1ST, AND IF ANY OF THEM CAN BE DEFERRED FOR ONE YEAR.I KNOW THE VET TECH, THAT THING MAYBE WE CAN FULLY FUND ONE ON OCTOBER 1ST AND WAIT THE WHOLE NEXT YEAR FOR ANOTHER ONE.
IN INFORMATION SYSTEMS, I LOVE JASON, HE DOES A GREAT JOB.
MAYBE WE COULD HOLD OFF TILL APRIL.
I'M JUST THROWING SOME IDEAS OUT THERE WHICH WILL BUILD US A LITTLE MORE IN THE BUDGET TO AGAIN ADDRESS SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS. WE'LL COME BACK AND GIVE YOU SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
I GIVE A PRIORITIZATION AND THEN ALSO PHASING PLAN.
THE IDEA OF POTENTIALLY CROSS-TRAINING, TAKING A PERSON THAT CAN WORK IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, MAYBE PART-TIME HERE, PART-TIME THERE.
YOU MIGHT EVEN WARRANT GIVING THAT PERSON ADDED SALARY.
BUT HE, SHE IS HELPING OUT RATHER THAN HAVE TO HIRE A WHOLE ANOTHER PERSON IN EITHER ONE OF THESE DEPARTMENTS OR SOMETHING.
IF THEY'RE SIMILAR DUTIES, IT GUY VERSUS DIGGING A DITCH, THAT'S NOWHERE NEAR THE SAME THING.
OR WE JUST COMBINE THEM ALL AND HAVE AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER? THAT'S GOOD. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I KNOW THIS IS THE HARD PART SITTING UP HERE.
THIS IS THE HARD PART, IS WHERE DO YOU PRIORITIZE THE FUNDING? THANK YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DO THE WORK AND WE APPRECIATE IN ADVANCE WHAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DO FOR US. [OVERLAPPING].
I'LL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND SEND IT TO YOU.
WE WILL SEND YOU A BUNCH OF EMAILS IN BETWEEN.
PLEASE. IF YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE, PLEASE DO.
THE PLAN IS TO COME BACK AND RE-ATTACK SOME OF THESE PRIORITIES SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE SOUR PIECE FIRST, AND THEN PRIORITIZATION OF THE LIST OF WHAT WE WANT TO ADD, WHICH EQUATES TO A TAX RATE. CORPORATE TAX RATE.
TANISHA, IF YOU COULD FOR SURE SEND THIS TO US, THIS ONE ESPECIALLY SO THAT WE COULD CHEW ON THAT.
THAT'D BE GREAT. I THINK JOHN'S OVER HERE BANGING AWAY SOME IDEAS.
HE MAY HAVE WORKED IT OUT FOR YOU.
WHAT ELSE YOU GOT FOR US? THE LAST ITEM WAS JUST THE ADMIN BUDGET THAT'S ON YOUR PAGE 8.
HE'S ZERO. [LAUGHTER] CHRISTINE, DID YOU DO THIS? MY EIGHT IS UPSIDE DOWN.
DID YOU MAKE THIS IN ODDBALL EIGHT? [LAUGHTER] IN THE ADMIN BUDGET, AND I'LL JUST GO BY SECTION.
SO THE PERSONNEL, IT HAS AN INCREASE THERE, FOR I BELIEVE IT WAS RECLASSIFICATION ON THAT BUDGET.
THEN ALSO YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE UNDER SERVICES.
YOU'LL SEE A DECREASE UNDER THE SUPPLIES BUDGET.
THEN OF COURSE, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, THAT'S ZEROED OUT.
FOR THE SERVICES SECTION OF THE ADMIN BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE THE SECOND LINE, LEGAL AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
THAT NUMBER, YEAR-TO-DATE AT THAT TIME, JULY 1ST WAS AT 73,000 AND THE CURRENT BUDGET WAS 63,000.
TO BE MORE REALISTIC, ON NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, ANTICIPATING THE LEGAL FEES AND EXPENSES, WE PUT THAT BUDGET AT 125,000 FOR NEXT YEAR.
ALSO, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATTORNEY FEES, THE ADMIN FEES, THE O1500419, THAT BUDGET WE ACTUALLY JUST DECREASED IT BY 15,000.
IT WENT FROM 215,000 TO 200,000.
ON YOUR NEXT PAGE, WE HAVE ZEROED OUT THE CONTRACT LABOR THAT WAS ORIGINALLY 39,000 FOR THIS YEAR.
WE'VE ZEROED IT OUT TO ZERO FOR NEXT YEAR.
THOSE ARE THE MAIN CHANGES ON THE ADMIN BUDGET.
IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M SURE WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER.
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CHRIS, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? GOOD? OKAY.NO QUESTIONS ON THE ADMIN SIDE.
I GUESS HE GETS TO STAY, RIGHT? [LAUGHTER] SO I WILL PROVIDE THE OTHER ITEM THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR TONIGHT AND THEN CHECK OUT JOHN'S SPREADSHEET THAT HE HAS FOR ME AND HIS HELP. I APPRECIATE IT.[LAUGHTER] WE'VE ALREADY PRINT FORMATTED IT FOR YOU.
GREAT. THANKS. [LAUGHTER] THAT IS ALL WE HAVE FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOU ALL WORK.
THANK YOU STAFF FOR STICKING WITH US TONIGHT AND OFFERED INPUT, SUGGESTIONS, IDEAS.
IT ALWAYS A TOUGH PROCESS. THIS IS THE TOUGH ONE.
THIS IS WHAT WE GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS FOR.
THANK YOU, MS. DANIEL, FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US SITTING DOWN THERE ON THE END THERE.
I KNOW WE'RE THROWING A LOT AT YOU.
CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR.
OKAY. COUNCIL, ANYTHING? I THINK WE'RE TO THE PART OF THE MEETING THAT EVERYBODY ENJOYS IS OUR ADJOURNMENT.
HAVE A GREAT EVENING, GUYS AND GIRLS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.