Oct 06, 2022 Planning & Zoning Commission

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD MORNING AND GOOD AFTERNOON.

NOW WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER EDITION OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANT TO WELCOME OTIS SPRIGGS, OUR NEW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

OTIS, DO YOU WANT TO JUST GIVE US A VERY BRIEF INTRODUCTION AND BACKGROUND OR BACKGROUND? I GAVE THE INTRODUCTION.

GOOD NOON TO EVERYONE.

AS STATED, MY NAME IS OTIS SPRIGGS.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN HERE THREE WEEKS AS DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SO I AM NOT WALTER, BUT I WANTED TO ADVANCE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST.

THIS IS NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH, SO IT'S A GOOD MOMENT FOR ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND ALSO TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING AS A COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF STANDING FOR GOOD AND QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.

WE WILL BE BRINGING MORE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BEFORE YOU TO SEE IF THINGS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT PLAN.

AND HOPEFULLY IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, WE'LL BE UPDATING THAT PLAN TO BE MORE CURRENT AS TO SOME OF THE VALUES THAT YOU ALL ARE REPRESENTING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT I COME BEFORE YOU, HOPEFULLY AS STAFF WILL GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATIVE INFORMATION ON THE STAFF REPORTS THAN YOU'VE BEEN GETTING IN THE PAST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN MAKE INFORMATIVE DECISIONS.

SO I AM ORIGINALLY FROM LOUISIANA.

I'VE BEEN IN TEXAS ABOUT SIX YEARS.

I HAVE ABOUT 23 YEARS IN COMMUNITY PLANNING AND ALSO A BACKGROUND IN ARCHITECTURE.

SO IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER THE FIRST, 2022.

[1. Approval of Meeting Minutes for September 1, 2022]

I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVED, BUT I WANT COMMENT.

I SAW SEVERAL MISSPELLINGS THROUGH THERE, BUT SORRY I DIDN'T MARK THEM.

I MIGHT DO IT SUBJECT TO SOMEBODY GOING BACK AND DOING SPELL CHECK, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE'S NAMES.

THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO A SPELL CHECK EXERCISE.

[INAUDIBLE] FOR THE DISCUSSION. IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSE. SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES OK, NEXT ITEM TWO, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES SECTION

[2. Discussion and possible action on a Zoning Text Amendment request to amend the Code of Ordinances, Section 28-81(b)- Use Charts, and amending Section 28-112, Definitions (Cemetery or mausoleum), adding “Columbarium” to enable the S.U.P., Specific Use Permit for a Columbarium within the CBD, Central Business Zoning District and similar cemetery uses (see Attachment 1). ]

DEFINITIONS CEMETERY OR MAUSOLEUM ADDING COLUMBARIUM TO ENABLE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A COLUMBARIUM WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT AND SIMILAR CEMETERY USES.

MR. SPRIGGS, WOULD YOU GIVE US A RUNDOWN ON THIS, PLEASE? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A REQUEST TO UPDATE OUR ZONING ORDINANCE FOR USE.

ACTUALLY, YOU DO HAVE COLUMBARIUM IN THE DEFINITION SECTION.

A LOT OF THE ZONING CODES AROUND THE COUNTRY DO NOT ADDRESS THIS AS A USE IN THE ZONING CODE.

IT BASICALLY IS A WALL OR STRUCTURE FOR STORING HUMAN REMAINS IN AN URN.

SO BASICALLY IT'S A SMALL COMPARTMENT IN WHICH INDIVIDUALS CAN STORE THOSE USUALLY THERE AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO WHAT OCCURRED IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME CHURCHES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT MAY WANT TO DO THIS JUST AS THE THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA, AS STATED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS BY DEFINITION, CEMETERIES, COLUMBARIUM AND MAUSOLEUMS ARE ALLOWED IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS BY SUP, WHICH IS SPECIFIC USE PERMITS.

SO WITH THIS REQUEST, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO UPDATE THE USE TABLE TO ALLOW IT AS AN SUP IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, WHICH IS OUR DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AS AN SUP.

SO EACH CASE WOULD COME BEFORE YOU ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND WILL BE WEIGHED ON ITS OWN MERIT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD FIT THE CRITERIA FOR AN SUP.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE.

BUT THIS IS BASICALLY TO FORWARD THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL ADOPTION AND ALSO DIRECTING US TO AMEND SECTION 2881B THE CHARTS.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT BEING ASKED TO APPROVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

WE ARE SIMPLY BEING ASKED TO AMEND THE THE TABLE IN WHICH THIS WOULD FALL INTO.

THAT IS CORRECT, THE ZONING ORDINANCE, YES.

NOW, I DO HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION FROM MISS MCLENDON.

DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE REQUEST OR THE NEXT ITEM ON WHICH WE WILL ACTUALLY CONSIDER THE GRANTING OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT? OK. SO I THINK THAT'S RELEVANT TO THE NEXT ITEM AT THIS POINT.

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THANK YOU. SO I WILL NOT FORGET ABOUT YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO BASICALLY, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN.

OKAY. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE ON THE AGENDA.

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND WHEN ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ISSUE ONCE, TWICE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH THAT.

NOW, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THE THINGS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, THOSE ARE THE ZONINGS THAT WE'RE ASKED TO CONSIDER. IT'S NOT JUST THE BUSINESS DISTRICT, BUT ALSO COMMERCIAL GENERAL.

LOOKS LIKE COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

YEAH. SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU HAVE THERE IS THE ITEM FOR COLUMBARIUM IS BEING ADDED TO THE CHART SEPARATELY FROM CEMETERIES.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DID WAS WE CARRIED OVER WHAT WAS UNDER THE CEMETERY FOR THE COLUMBARIUM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE IT PARALLEL.

SO THAT WOULD BE ADDING COLUMBARIUM AS A SPECIFIC USE IN THOSE PARTICULAR DISTRICTS.

WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT THE COLUMBARIUM MIGHT HAVE BEEN ASSUMED TO BE PART OF THE CEMETERY MAUSOLEUM? AND WE'RE JUST MAKING THIS MORE SPECIFIC? BY ASSUMPTION YES, SIR.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE CLEARER, I THINK, IF WE PUT IT AS AN ACTUAL USE.

I AGREE. THANK YOU.

SO I MOVE THAT WE ADD COLUMBARIUM TO THE APPROPRIATE SPACES ON THE GRAPH, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL, COMMERCIAL OFFICE, RETAIL, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION FOR MISS MCDANIEL AND THE SECOND WIFE.

MISS BERRY, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSE SAME SIGN, MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM THREE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT PURSUANT TO SECTION 28-63 OF THE CODE OF

[3. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on an application for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) pursuant to Section 28-63 of the Code of Ordinances to consider a request submitted by Holy Comforter Episcopal Church to allow for a Specific Use Permit for a Columbarium Wall within the CBD, Central Business Zoning District, for property located at 227 Chenango St./234 S. Arcola St., Angleton, TX. ]

SO THIS IS THE SAME ISSUE.

SO THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH HAS ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS.

AND AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MRS. MCCLENDON, YOU'VE BEEN ASKED YOU'VE ASKED IF YOU COULD SPEAK, AND SO I'LL INVITE YOU TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS. I'M SURE SOMEBODY CAN POINT THAT OUT.

CAN YOU CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, MISS MCCLENDON? OKAY. MARIA, DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ZOOM IN TO THAT GRAPHIC? AND THEN ONCE WE SHOW THAT OR WE CAN BRING YOU A MICROPHONE, WHATEVER'S EASIER FOR YOU.

OKAY. LET'S BRING YOU THE MICROPHONE.

YES, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. IF SOMEBODY COULD POINT OUT THE SPECIFIC AREAS, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN.

TRAVIS'S OTHER SIDE.

CAN YOU USE THE MIC SO THAT WE CAN RECORD ALL THIS? THANK YOU. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS FENCE, WHICH WOULD BE THE NORTH WEST SIDE OF THE CAMPUS, IS WHERE WE ARE WANTING TO BUILD THE COLUMBARIUM.

RIGHT. RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT HERE. YES.

SO THIS IS THE NORTHWEST SIDE.

SO WAS THERE A VIEW UP HERE OF THE LOOKING DOWN FROM ALMOST LIKE GOOGLE EARTH THAT I SEE EARLIER THAT WOULD HELP ME.

OK. THEY'LL BE UP AT THE TOP.

UP BY THE. ON THE OTHER SIDE.

YEAH. OH, YES.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO.

RIGHT HERE. WE'RE UP THERE RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT THERE. AND SO CITY HALL WOULD BE OVER HERE TO THE UPPER RIGHT.

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OKAY. BASICALLY DOWN THAT ALLEY WAY, BECAUSE YOU CAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT FROM OUT THE WINDOW.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MISS MCCLENDON, IS THAT THE ONLY AREA THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED AS THAT AREA? MCCLENDON DO YOU HOLD THAT CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH PLEASE? IS THAT THE ONLY AREA THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED? OKAY. SO THAT FINDS ITSELF AT THE VERY BACK OF MY HOME.

I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON THAT'S AFFECTED IN THAT WAY.

I HAVE TO TOUCH GARAGES THAT WOULD BACK UP TO THIS SMALL PLOT OF LAND, AND THAT WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE DONE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

THEY'VE ONLY JUST RECENTLY COVERED UP THE DUGOUT AND STAYED DUG OUT FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS, I SUPPOSE, AND NOW IT'S BEEN COVERED BACK UP.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING PUTTING THE WALL ON.

APPARENTLY, THAT'S ALL WE'VE BEEN TOLD.

SO IN DIGGING THAT THERE WAS SEVERAL GAS ISSUES THAT AROSE FROM THAT GAS WAS TURNED OFF.

WE HAD SEVERAL RESIDENCES OR THE CHURCH IN THIS CASE IN MY RESIDENCE THAT DIDN'T HAVE GAS SERVICE WHILE THEY WERE DIGGING THIS UP.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A WALL ON TOP OF SERVICE THAT SERVICES SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENCES THERE.

WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE SAME PLACE? I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO ANSWER THAT.

BUT KYLE.

I KNOW WHEN THEY STARTED OVER HERE AND HIT A GAS LINE.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME I THINK TRAVIS COULD PROBABLY SPEAK MORE TO IT.

THERE WAS, I THINK, SOME MISMARKED ITEMS THERE.

THIS KIND OF STARTED MORE AS A FENCE IS WHAT STARTED.

AND THEN THEY WENT TO THIS COLUMBARIUM.

BUT THERE WAS I MEAN, IT WILL NOT BE BUILT.

IT'D BE BUILT ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE, BASICALLY.

THEY CAN'T GO OUT INTO THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY WITH A FENCE OR A WALL OR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO EVERYTHING WILL BE MARKED.

THERE WOULD BE NO WALL ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

SO IT HAS TO BE ON THEIR PROPERTY.

ON THE CHURCH'S PROPERTY? YES, SIR. I KNOW.

AND SO ONCE ONCE THE WALL IS BUILT, THERE SHOULD BE ANY REALISTIC CONCERN ABOUT GAS LINE BEING DISRUPTED? NO, SIR. THEY'RE ALL IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.

ANY UTILITIES? SO IF THE IF THE UTILITIES ARE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY AND THIS IS NOT BEING BUILT ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THEN THERE SHOULD NOT BE A CONFLICT? CORRECT.

I HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH CENTERPOINT TO KNOW WHETHER UTILITIES ACTUALLY ARE.

BUT I HAD MY EYES ON THE DUGOUT AREA AND THE UTILITIES ARE BACK UP AGAINST THEIR WALL.

WELL, FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THEY WERE GOING TO ACTUALLY EXCAVATE SOME BEYOND THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY INTO THE ALLEY.

WE SHARE AN ALLEY.

I SHARE AN ALLEY WITH THE CHURCH.

SO ON ONE SIDE IS MY TWO DETACHED GARAGES, WHICH MY THIRD GARAGE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EXIT IF THE WALL WAS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY BEHIND IT.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE BACK, THE BACK SIDE OF THE CHURCH.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF UTILITIES, BUT THEY WERE GAS METERS, ETC., UP CLOSE TO THE CHURCH'S WALL.

NOT OVER THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT UNDERNEATH WHERE I'M SUPPOSING THAT WALL IS GOING TO BE BUILT.

THEY COVERED IT UP IN A DAY.

THERE WAS SEVERE DAMAGE DONE TO SEVERAL OF THE OF THE GAS OUTLETS.

MY GAS WAS TURNED OFF.

THE CHURCH'S GAS WAS TURNED OFF FOR THE AFTERNOON BECAUSE THERE WERE CONCERNS NOT ONLY THAT IT HAD BEEN DAMAGED, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF ONGOING DAMAGE FROM THAT THAT WAS COVERED UP IN A DAY.

AND THERE WERE REPAIRS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN MADE TO THOSE UTILITIES BEFORE IT WAS COVERED UP.

I DOUBT THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE IT SAT THERE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS IN THAT STATE, IN THAT EXCAVATED OPEN HOLD STATE.

SO SOME OF MY CONCERN IS IT WEREN'T THAT'S MY DETACHED GARAGE THAT YOU SEE THERE.

WE SEE IT? WELL, I JUST WANTED TO POINT SOMETHING OUT.

IT'S HARD TO SEE THAT I HAVE, I HAVE TWO MAIN GARAGES HERE.

BUT I USE BUT I HAVE A THIRD STORAGE GARAGE HERE.

AND THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO.

PUT THE WALL THE RIGHT OF COMES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE.

SO THIS WOULD DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY PUT THAT, THAT WOULD IMPEDE MY USE OF THIS THIRD GARAGE.

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IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE ME FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT.

I DON'T THINK THIS THIS I'M THE FIRST OF FOUR HOUSES THAT ARE IN THIS SUBDIVISION AND WE HAVE A BUS STOP ON ONE SIDE.

WE HAVE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ON THE OTHER, WE HAVE CAR DEALERS.

WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF DISRUPTION FOR US TO MAINTAIN ANY FEELING OF A SUBDIVISION.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CEMETERY COMING TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE PUT OPPOSITE THE OLD INTAKES BUILDING LAND IS FINALLY BEING WORKED ON THIS WEEK, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS THAT WAS POSSIBLY A LOCATION FOR THE MAUSOLEUM TO GO THERE.

SO I'M JUST SAYING I'M A RESIDENT.

I'M TRYING TO LIVE IN A IN A SUBDIVISION WITH TWO CHURCHES, ONE IN FRONT OF ME, THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH WITH ALL THE [INAUDIBLE] AND NOW WITH THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH. DOING THIS AND I OBJECT TO IT BEING BUILT IN MY VERY SMALL SUBDIVISION.

IS THERE ANY OTHER SUBDIVISION IN ANGLETON THAT IT'S BEEN APPROVED TO HAVE A MAUSOLEUM BUILT? MAY I SAY SOMETHING? MAUSOLEUM AND A COLUMBARIUM ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND THERE IS ANOTHER NAME FOR A CINERARIUM.

AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH ONE OF THOSE IN LAKE JACKSON.

AND ACTUALLY, THAT'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL GARDEN AREA.

HAS HABITAT, BUTTERFLIES, HUMMINGBIRDS REGULARLY.

IT'S A PLACE PEOPLE GO FOR A QUIET, CONTEMPLATIVE LOCATION.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ARE THE SAME AS I AM, BUT I HAVE A HOUSE FULL OF URNS THAT I HAVE TO HIDE AWAY BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN MY FAMILY AT THIS POINT, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THINGS END.

SO TO HAVE THEM PLACED IN A SOMEWHAT HOLY PLACE I THINK IS NOT CREEPY.

I THINK IT'S A VERY WONDERFUL THING.

AND THE FACT THAT I'M GUESSING THAT WILL BE A LANDSCAPED AREA, I MEAN, I HAVE NO I HAVEN'T SEEN THE PLANS, BUT JUST BEING FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THEY'RE LIKE, IT CAN BE VERY, VERY NICE.

THANK YOU. MS. MCLENNAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OTHERWISE, WE CAN CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THIS A FOR PROFIT PROJECT ON BEHALF OF THE CHURCH? IS THE CHURCH CONDUCTING THIS AS A AS A PROFIT MAKING PROJECT? WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO CHURCH MEMBERS OR IS IT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC TO PUT THEIR THEIR RELATIVES LAST REMAINS IN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OR ABOUT THIS ISSUE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS TRAVIS SMITH AND I AM A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I ALSO AM WITH HOLY COMFORTER EPISCOPAL CHURCH.

I HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS COLUMBARIUM.

IF YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH WITH FUNERALS ANY TIME THE LAST FEW YEARS, YOU KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THEY ARE.

AND THE COLUMBARIUM IS OUR ATTEMPTS, OUR ANSWER TO PART OF THAT AS WELL.

HAVING A COLUMBARIUM, HAVING REMAINS ON CHURCH GROUNDS IS BY NO MEANS A NEW THING.

IT'S A VERY OLD, LONGSTANDING TRADITION WHICH WE AS A CHURCH DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO ATTEMPT TO HOUSE.

WE WANTED TO REVISIT THAT TRADITION ON THE CHURCH GROUNDS.

AND THE NORTH WEST CORNER SEEMS TO US AS A CHURCH, THE LEADERSHIP AND THE LAITY AS AN APPROPRIATE SPOT.

THE THERE WILL BE, AT LEAST IN THE BEGINNING, 200 NICHES, BUT IT ALSO THAT WILL BE ON THE INSIDE OF A WALL THAT WILL ACTUALLY EXPAND TO THE SOUTH, THE SOUTHWEST SIDE.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ORNAMENTAL FENCE THAT IT'S SIX FEET TALL.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING OUTRAGEOUS.

IT'S GOING TO BE BRICK THAT MATCHES THE CHURCH.

AND WITHIN THAT NICHE, THE THIS NORTHWEST SIDE WILL HOUSE, AT LEAST IN THE BEGINNING, THIS COLUMBARIUM. NOW, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO AN EPISCOPAL SERVICE OR FOR THAT MATTER, CATHOLIC SERVICE, IT'S VERY QUIET, IT'S VERY RESPECTFUL.

IT DOESN'T LINGER OUTSIDE.

THE SERVICES THEMSELVES ARE NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES LONG.

YOU NEVER HAVE PEOPLE LINGERING OUTSIDE OR LARGE GATHERINGS REALLY IN COLUMBARIUM AREAS.

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WE HAVE THE WALL, IF YOU WILL, THE BRICK WALL TO GUARD, TO NURTURE THOSE WHO ARE GOING INSIDE AND MOURNING.

BUT ALSO WE HAVE MOVED THE THE INITIAL WALL, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE ALONG THE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE ALLEYWAY. WE'VE MOVED THAT IN TWO FEET BECAUSE OF THE GAS LINE MISHAP.

WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS RESPECTFUL TO THE OBJECTIONS OF SHAN.

AND ALSO WE JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER AND CLEANER NOT TO MESS WITH THE GAS LINE ITSELF.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO INSTEAD IS JUST PLANT SOME PLANTS BETWEEN THE ALLEY AND THAT TWO FEET WHERE THE WALL WOULD BE.

AND SO OUR INITIAL COLUMBARIUM COURTYARD IS GOING TO BE TWO FEET SKINNIER, IF YOU WILL, THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS ISSUE? YOUR NAME, SIR? I'M MORRIS MASSENGILL, AND MY WIFE AND I OWN 224 EAST ORANGE AND 228 EAST ORANGE.

SO THERE'S FOUR HOUSES IN THE BLOCK.

AND MY WIFE AND I OWN THE TWO ON THE FAR END.

NOW, WE'RE FAR LESS AFFECTED BY THIS THAN MISS MCLENDON WOULD BE, BUT WE DO SHARE THE SAME ALLEY.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THEY MAINTAIN THE RIGHT OF WAY AS FAR AS SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINES WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE CHURCH, THE REQUIRED SETBACK FOR A FENCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ON THAT ALLEY WOULD BE. I KNOW I COULDN'T BUILD A GARAGE CLOSER THAN FIVE FEET FROM MY PROPERTY LINE TOWARD THE ALLEY.

BUT A FENCE IS GOOD.

PRIME. IF THEY WERE ADDING ON TO THE CHURCH, SAY A RUMOR THAT WOULD BE OFF THERE IS SET BACKS OFF A FENCE, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, A FENCE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S VISIBILITY, TRIANGLES AND DIFFERENT THINGS TO LOOK AT CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS.

BUT THE FENCE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN AT YOU KNOW A BUILDING OR A STRUCTURE.

MY CONCERNS WERE THAT THEY MAINTAIN A REASONABLE SET BACK AND ADDRESS ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT MAY BE CREATED BY BUILDING THINGS UP AND NOT SLOPING THEM TOWARD THE STREET.

BECAUSE HALF WATER GOES EAST AND HALF THE WATER GOES WEST.

AND YEAH, I DON'T WANT EVERYTHING GOING EAST, BUT I HAVE MY WIFE NOR I HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT.

THANK YOU, MR. MASSENGILL.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ISSUE? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? YES. I MOVE HERE.

I MOVE. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION OF USE PERMIT PURSUANT TO THE SECTION 2863 OF THE CODE ORDINANCE TO CONSIDER A REQUEST SUBMITTED BY [INAUDIBLE] EPISCOPAL CHURCH TO ALLOW FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE COLUMBARIUM WALL WITHIN THE CBD CENTRAL BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 227 SHENANGO STREET TO 34 SOUTH [INAUDIBLE] STREET.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSE. SAME SIGN, MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. DOES THIS GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION? YES, SIR. THIS WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO THIS WOULD GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL LIKELY AT THE END OF THE MONTH? AT THE END OF THE MONTH? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ASHLAND SECTION TWO PRELIMINARY PLAT.

[4. Discussion and possible action on the Ashland Section 2, Preliminary Plat ]

MR. SPRIGGS? YES, SIR.

JUST AS AN UPDATE AS YOU RECALL IN YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU SAW SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT.

SECTION ONE WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS DUPLICATED ON YOUR AGENDA, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN SECTION TWO.

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AND ALSO, WE WANTED TO UPDATE YOU, THE COUNCIL DID ACT ON THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU FORWARDED TO THEM FOR CONSIDERATION.

THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS AND WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL SUBJECT TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BEING WORKED OUT BY THE APPLICANTS, THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE STAFF LEADERSHIP.

ALSO IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL BE THE DETAILS ON THE PARKLAND DEDICATION THEY HAVE AGREED TO SATISFY AND OVER EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO DESIGN STANDARDS WILL BE INCORPORATED.

YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE AGREEMENT ONCE IT'S DRAFTED FOR FINAL ADOPTION FOR THE CITY.

THIS IS SECTION TWO PRELIMINARY PLAT BASED ON THAT CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN AND WE FORWARD IT TO YOU.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY ENGINEER COMMENTS WHICH WERE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW IN SECTION ONE, THERE WERE SOME NOTATIONS ON THE PLAN THAT NEED TO BE CORRECTED, AS NOTED REFERENCE TO THE 500 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN AND ALSO A LOT OF CORRECTIVE NOTES.

I BELIEVE THERE ARE 13 ITEMS THERE WHICH ARE A PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO SECTION TWO IS COMPRISED OF 67 LOTS AT 50 BY 120 IP, I GUESS IS TYPICALLY.

YES SIR. THEY ARE ALSO THREE RESERVES AND THREE BLOCKS WITH THE 67 LOTS THAT ARE PROPOSED HERE.

WELL, AND THE APPLICANTS ARE AVAILABLE ALSO.

DOES THIS OK.

BUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD SUPERSEDE THIS, WOULD IT NOT? NO. BEFORE THE FINAL PLAT IS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU, WE WILL WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.

WELL, SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE REALLY HAVE NEVER BEEN IN FAVOR OF 50 FOOT LOTS, SO I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE I WAS HOPING THAT THAT WOULD GO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD FOLLOW CLOSER TO THE COUNTY STANDARDS, SINCE MOST OF IT IS IN THE COUNTY ANYWAY, WHICH I THINK THE COUNTY STANDARDS ARE 85 FOOT LOTS.

SO IF WE APPROVE THIS OR WE APPROVE HIM 50 FOOT LOTS OR DOES THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TRUMP WHAT THIS PLAT INDICATES? THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR PLAT SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE AUTHORITY OF LOT SIZES AND WHAT HAVE YOU NOT GRANTED TO US IN TERMS OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

USUALLY IN YOUR ETJ YOU HAVE THE ABILITY OF THE PLANNING PROCESS BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

SO ANY ZONING REQUIREMENTS CAN BE NEGOTIATED THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE SUBJECT OF THE LOTS WAS CARRIED ON THE COUNCIL AND WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE SIZE, LOTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT THE LEGAL INTERPRETATION WAS THAT US ACTUALLY NEGOTIATING LOT SIZES AS A PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS NOT UNDER OUR AUTHORITY.

BUT YOU DO PLAN TO NEGOTIATE A LOT SIZE AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT? WITHIN THAT WOULD BE SOME DESIGN STANDARDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY, HEY, WE CAN'T HAVE ZERO, WE CAN HAVE ZERO, 50 FOOT LOTS OF WHAT HAVE YOU.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO DO THAT UNDER THE ZONING.

WELL, I KNEW THAT THE COUNCIL DIDN'T UNDER THE ETG, BUT SOMEWHERE IN THERE SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

50 FOOT LOTS MAY MAKE IT A REAL NIGHTMARE AS FAR AS POLICING AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, ESPECIALLY ON SUPER BOWL SUNDAY.

CAN I ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? YES, SIR. WHAT IS YOUR NAME, FIRST OF ALL, IS MINIMUM LOT SIZES, 80 FEET, APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET OF 20% OF OF ASHLAND FALLS. AND OUTSIDE OF YOUR ETJ AND IN THE COUNTY, WE'VE ALREADY GOT AN APPLICATION TO YOUR CITY ATTORNEY TO ANNEX THAT PORTION INTO YOUR ETG.

THAT BEING SAID, THE COUNTIES LOT SIZES DON'T THEY DON'T APPLY HERE.

IT'S IN THE ETJ, NOW WHAT WE HAVE AGREED TO ON THE EDGE IS A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF LOTS.

BUT WE NEED 50S, 60S, WE NEED SEVERAL LOT SIZES FOR THIS BIG OF A PROJECT.

I CAN TELL YOU WE WON'T GO BELOW 50 FOOTERS, BUT I CANNOT.

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SO I THINK EVERYBODY IS IN AGREEMENT THAT TECHNICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL TO DICTATE LOT SIZES, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO UPSET ANYBODY AND WE CAN COMMIT TO 50 FOOT MINIMUMS. BUT WE ALREADY HAVE COMMITTED IN THE DA THAT YOU HAVE NOT SEEN YET.

YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE IT A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF LOTS.

SO THAT MEANS WE CAN'T GO IN THERE AND JUST MAKE EVERYTHING SMALL.

YOU ESTIMATE WILL BE 50 FOOT.

LESS THAN HALF, BUT I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? FOR THE RECORD? I'M SORRY. MARK JANICK.

I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT WITH ASHTON GRADE DEVELOPMENT.

WE ARE THE DEVELOPERS AND THE LANDOWNERS.

THANK YOU, MR. JANICK.

WELL, I KNOW THAT YOU SAY THAT IT WON'T WORK, AND IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T IN SUGAR LAND, BUT THE DIRT DOWN HERE ISN'T AS EXPENSIVE.

AND IT JUST SEEMS TO ME, AS I KNOW THAT DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING TO MAKE TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN REALLY OWN THEIR INVESTMENT.

I DON'T. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE DEVELOPERS, ESPECIALLY OUT OF TOWN DEVELOPERS, AREN'T NECESSARILY WHAT IS BEST FOR ANGLETON.

IT WAS I GREW UP IN SHARPSTOWN.

I USED TO DRIVE THROUGH 288 ALL THE TIME GOING TO TO FREEPORT.

SO I'M NOT REALLY AN OUT OF TOWN OR I'VE BEEN BORN IN SAN ANTONIO.

I NEED TO POINT OUT THAT OUR OUR COMPETITION IS UNDER AMENITIZED SUBDIVISIONS THROUGHOUT ANGLETON.

WE'RE SPENDING $13 MILLION ON ON OUR AMENITY PACKAGE.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT TO CITY STANDARDS.

WE'RE EVEN LOOKING AT POSSIBLY WRITING A CHECK TO THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH YOUR YOUR CITY PARK ON FINANCES.

THIS IS ANGLETON FIRST MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY HIGH PROFILE FOR THE CITY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE CREATING $800 MILLION, ALMOST $1,000,000,000 IN AB GIVING YOU GUYS AN SPA TO ALLOW TO ANNEX US IN THE FUTURE.

RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WERE TO ANNEX THE 880 ACRES AT ASHLAND, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE RESIDENTS VOTE ON IT.

AND WE KNOW HOW THAT WOULD GO.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE COOPERATIVE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A VARIETY OF LOTS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, ESPECIALLY WITH INTEREST RATES GOING UP, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY CALLS ON THE SIXTIES, NONE AT ALL.

BUT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NIBBLES.

WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THAT PROGRAM.

WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH FIFTIES AND SIXTIES.

AND THEN WE HAVE THOSE PODS.

WE'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT AN ACTIVE ADULT POD ALREADY.

NOW, ONE THING THE COUNCIL, ONE THING THE COUNTY HAS SAID IS THAT IF WE DO NOT FOLLOW THEIR PAVING REQUIREMENTS, THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LOT SIZES.

THEY CAN'T DICTATE LOT SIZES.

WELL, WE'RE FOLLOWING THE CITY OF ANGLETON'S PAVEMENT REQUIREMENTS.

WE'RE DOING STANDARD SIX INCH PAVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE COUNTY WANTS TEN INCH, THAT'S OVERKILL.

BUT WE'RE FOLLOWING YOUR STANDARDS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ANNEX US IN THE FUTURE.

OUR WATER AND SEWER PLANTS WILL ALL BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.

WE'RE GIVING YOU AN ELEVATED WATER STORAGE TANK BECAUSE YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SAID YOU MAY HAVE A USE FOR IT IN THE FUTURE.

WE'RE GIVING YOU A FIRE STATION.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO IN A MASTER PLAN.

WE DO UNDERSTAND YOUR ISSUE WITH THE SMALLER LOTS, BUT WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER ASHLAND IN TOTAL.

THANK YOU, MR. JANICK. AND I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE HAVING TO COMPETE WITH BUT WHAT'S OUT HERE NOW.

WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THESE 40 AND 45 FOOT LOTS HERE THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO COMPETE WITH.

SO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT AS FAR AS YOU'RE NOT ONE AS FAR AS THE ANGLETON'S ROADS.

THAT'S HOW COME THEY'RE ALWAYS PATCHING THEIR ROADS? YOU KNOW THE STANDARD FOR THE ANGLETON ROADS.

VERSUS THE COUNTY ROADS ARE NOT AS GOOD.

SO ANYWAY, I HOPE YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL.

I LIKE THE MASTER PLAN.

I WISH THE LOTS WERE BIGGER.

I THINK THAT OVER THE LONG HAUL YOU WOULD HAVE A NICER SUBDIVISION FOR MANY YEARS LONGER IF THE LOTS WERE BIGGER.

NO, WE WOULD HAVE A NICER SUBDIVISION.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH.

YOU WOULD BE GONE. THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. SO I'M TALKING BRICK WALLS, MILES OF TRAILS.

WHEN I LEAVE, ANGLETON WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE THAN WHEN WE GOT HERE.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND AND THESE OTHER ONES THAT HAVE.

NOW, TECHNICALLY, I COULD DO FORTIES.

I'M NOT GOING TO.

I'M GOING TO STICK WITH THE FIFTIES IF WE NEED TO ADD THAT TO THE DA, WHICH I'M SURE HE'LL IMPLORE US TO DO, WE CAN PUT THAT IN THERE.

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SO LIKE YOU SAID, MAKE A LITTLE MORE MONEY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I WANT THE CITY TO BE HAPPY.

THANK YOU, SIR. CAN I ASK A QUESTION, MR. SPRIGGS? JUST FOR MY SIMPLE MIND.

IF THIS IS THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF US HERE AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND OUR ETJ IS JUST VERY, VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT? WELL, MAYBE IT'S A SMALL PERCENT OF THE SECTION.

HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY HOW MUCH OF THIS PROPOSED TOTAL DEVELOPMENT WILL ACTUALLY BE IN THE ETJ? ULTIMATELY.

OF THIS SECTION OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT? 80% OF IT? YES.

IN THE ETG CURRENTLY? MIC] I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AN ANNEX.

I'M ASKING RIGHT NOW THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, HOW MUCH OF THIS.

I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WHERE DOES OUR ETJ LINE RUN AND HOW MUCH ACREAGE OF YOUR OF ALL OF THIS IS THIS AMOUNT? YOU SEE THIS ORANGE. RIGHT.

SO THAT'S NOT 80% OF THIS TOTAL PROJECT.

CORRECT. AND THIS IS IN.

AND THIS IS THE HIGHWAY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.

HOW MUCH? SO THE MAJORITY OF IT IS CURRENTLY IN THE OK.

THANK YOU. DO YOU NEED A COPY? NO. ALL RIGHT.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

GOING ONCE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS.

SO. ARE WE REACTING ON WHAT WE DID IN THE LAST MEETING? I GUESS I'M CONFUSED.

IS THAT WHAT KIND OF ACTION WE'RE LOOKING FOR? WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY.

I WILL SAY THAT WHEN THESE APPLICATIONS FOR THE SUBDIVISIONS ARE FILED, STAFF HAS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS TO SORT OF FORWARD IT THROUGH TO THE WHOLE PROCESS.

THIS IS BASICALLY A CONTINUATION OF WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR, LAST MONTH.

I'M SORRY, BECAUSE YOU DEALT WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN.

RIGHT. THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH THAT CONCEPT PLAN ALSO.

SO WE HAVE TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.

SO TO PLACE IT ON THE FLOOR FOR CONSIDERATION DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST IT.

BUT HOWEVER, I THINK WE NEED TO COME TO SOME TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION THAT NEEDS TO BE FORWARDED TO THE COUNCIL.

SO WE CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IT.

IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? USUALLY FOR SUBDIVISION PLAT, YOU CAN BASICALLY MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DENY OR APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS.

THOSE ARE YOUR THREE CHOICES.

SO BASICALLY, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE SAY.

YEAH, YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL, DENIAL OR APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS.

WELL, I WILL MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND WITH CONDITIONS.

AND I ASSUME THE CONDITIONS ARE THESE THE ENGINEER'S CONDITIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S MY MOTION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALRIGHT IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS NOTED BY THE ENGINEER.

CORRECT. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS INDICATED BY THE ENGINEER.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK WE'LL DO THIS BY SHOW OF HANDS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.

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OKAY SO THREE AND TWO, DENYING THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.