[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
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AT 6:30 P.M..WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND DECLARE US CALL US TO ORDER AT 6:30.
[1. Discussion and possible action on current and future city facilities.]
SO IF I RECALL, I THINK WE WANTED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, SEVERAL THINGS WORKSHOP ON THE CURRENT POSITION OF OUR CITY FACILITIES AND THEN THE FACILITY IN QUESTION, OUR SERVICE CENTER WITH A NEW ROUTE DIRECTION FROM THE LAST MEETING TO SEE IF THIS IS STILL THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO CONTINUE ON FOR A PATH FORWARD.SO, CHRIS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
SO MAYBE WE CAN JUST WE'LL NAME FACILITIES AND KIND OF HAVE THAT DISCUSSION STATUS AND FUTURE.
GOT YOU. GO THROUGH THAT, RUN THROUGH THAT.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR IF THERE'S ANY STAFF DIRECTION.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS IS ABOUT FUNDING.
SO IF WE SAY NEXT YEAR WE WANT TO DO BUILDING X OR BUILDING Y THAT WE HAVEN'T FUNDED AND WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR DEBT CAPACITY AND WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS OR PLACES TO PUT A BUILDING OR WHATEVER IT IS.
SO I PROPOSE WE START WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES.
WE DID SOME LIGHTING RENOVATIONS LAST YEAR.
WHAT ELSE AM I MISSING [INAUDIBLE]? LED LIGHTING. PARKING LOT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. YES, THE FENCE WITH THE HURRICANE TORE DOWN, GOT THE NEW FENCE PUT UP, GOT SOME PLANTS PUT OUT THERE, SOME NATURAL VEGETATION [INAUDIBLE] FOR COVER AND IT GROWS.
IT'S GROWING GOOD. WHEN WAS THAT BUILDING BUILT [INAUDIBLE]? 1995. 1995.
WE HAVE, IT'S NO NEWS TODAY THAT WE'VE OUTGROWN IT.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS OUT BACK FOR STORAGE.
AND WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST OUT OF OFFICE SPACE.
ALSO. WE NEED TO DO SOME WORK TO DISPATCH AREAS FOR AS THE BACKSIDE IT'S ABOUT $500,000 WORTH OF WORK.
WHEN I SAY BACKSIDE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RADIOS.
YOU KNOW, MOTOROLA, THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY IS BY OUTDATING STUFF.
SO WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, THAT STUFF WILL START BEING OUTDATED.
SO WE HAD PROPOSED TO TRY TO GET THAT DONE.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET A GRANT AND ALSO WITH OUR MESH SYSTEM.
YOU WANT TALK ABOUT THIS CELLEBRITE REQUIREMENTS AND ALL THAT [INAUDIBLE]? CELLEBRITE IS A PHONE COMPANY SYSTEM THAT WE'RE IN PARTNERS WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON.
THEY REQUIRE A LAB, WHICH AT THIS MOMENT IT'S THE BACK ROOM WHERE WE USED TO HOUSE ALL THE RADIO EQUIPMENT AND STUFF FOR IT.
WE JUST WE JUST GOT A COMPUTER SYSTEM.
THANKS TO JASON AND IT AND OUR DRUG DEALERS.
THEY FUNDED IT, COME OUT OF THE SEIZURE FUND.
SO THAT'S BACK THERE IN THE BACK NOW.
SO WE NEED A NEW LAB FOR THAT.
BUT WE NEED ROOM FOR THAT AS WELL.
WHAT ABOUT JUST THINKING ABOUT SPACING RIGHT NOW, SALLY PORT SPACING, IS THAT ADEQUATE? COULD YOU USE MORE? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU HAVE TIRES IN THERE, BICYCLES IN THERE.
IS THAT ADEQUATE OR LESS ADEQUATE? NO, IT'S LESS THAN ADEQUATE.
IF YOU GET IT, IT HOLDS ONE CAR.
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SO THIS WEEKEND WE HAD A UNIT THAT WAS DAMAGED, BUT IT HAD TO BE INSIDE THE SOUTH PORT OUT OF THE WEATHER.SO WHICH TOOK SOUTH PORT OUT OF COMMISSION.
SO, YES, WE COULD USE SOME MORE SOUTH PORT AREA.
WE COULD USE SOME STORAGE AREA FOR VEHICLE PARTS.
WE HAVE WE HAVE STOP SIGNS BACK HERE IN THE BACK.
THERE'S ALSO THE GENERATOR BACK THERE AS WELL.
WHAT ABOUT JAIL CAPACITY? HAVE YOU EVER GOT TO A POINT WHERE YOUR MAXIMUM, WHERE YOU COULDN'T HOUSE ANY MORE YOUR INMATE INMATES? NOT YET. NOT YET, SIR.
YOU HAVE SINGLE CELLS, OR DO YOU ALL USE LIKE A POD SYSTEM? NO, SIR. WE HAVE SINGLE CELLS, MULTIPLE FOLKS.
A TANK HOLDS FOUR, B TANK HOLDS TWO.
THE REST OF THE CELLS HOLD TWO, THE DRUNK TANK HOLDS AS MANY AS YOU CAN FIT [INAUDIBLE].
ALL RIGHT. MY QUESTION IS JUST THROWING THOUGHTS OUT.
I KNOW WE DON'T LIKE TO SPEND MONEY ON THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY COME TO FRUITION.
AND BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT SAYING THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED THIS WAY MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THAT FACILITY WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR A SECOND FLOOR, BUT IF THERE IF WE COULD DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY, IF WE WERE ABLE TO, I DON'T KNOW, PUT SOME LOAD BEARING BEAMS OR SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE, UTILIZE THAT FOOTPRINT AND GO VERTICAL.
IT HAS A PARTIAL SECOND FLOOR NOW, SIR, WHERE IT HOUSES THE AIR CONDITIONING STUFF.
ALL THE BACK END FOR THE AIR CONDITIONING.
THERE'S A SECOND FLOOR UP THERE NOW.
BUT THE WAY THE ARCHITECT THAT WE HAD COME IN ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR SO, THAT BUILDING IS YOU CAN REDESIGN THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.
ENGINEER I GUESS YOU COULD PROBABLY TELL US MORE ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU CAN MOVE THOSE WALLS.
BUT WHAT ABOUT? I'M JUST SAYING, I'M TRYING TO LOOK FOR SOME SPACE.
OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO GET SOME DEBT SERVICES FOR OR SOMEHOW.
SEEMS TO ME THE CURRENT LOCATION IN MY MIND OF OF STUFF, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PRETTY CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE TOWN, ESPECIALLY AS IT MOVES NORTH AND WESTWARD. WHICH I WOULD KIND OF EXPECT WITH GROWTH TOWARDS 288, IT'S JUST KIND OF NORMAL.
I KNOW WE GOT A LITTLE LAND AROUND THERE AS WELL, BUT.
YES, SIR. AND WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THE PD WAS SUPPOSED TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHERE TO WHERE THE PARKING LOT ORIGINAL PARKING LOT IS NOW SUPPOSED TO GO BACK THERE.
AND APPARENTLY THAT WAS CUT FOR BUDGET REASONS BACK IN THE DAY.
[INAUDIBLE] ANYBODY DO WE KNOW WHERE THOSE PLANS ARE? YES, SIR THEY'RE AT THE PD.
OKAY. SO THERE'S BEEN A BLUEPRINT, SO TO SPEAK, OF WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY.
YES. HAS ANYBODY REVIEWED THOSE RECENTLY? [INAUDIBLE] WE BROUGHT THEM OUT WHEN THE ARCHITECT CAME DOWN AND LOOKED AT IT AND SHE LOOKED AT IT.
PRECEDENCE FOR SOME GROWTH? NO, SIR. IT WOULD PROVIDE MORE SPACE, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'D HAVE TO GET SOME DETECTIVE OFFICES.
OUR CRIMINALIST HAS AN OFFICE, WHICH IS A JAIL CELL.
SO WE ALSO HAVE AN INTERVIEW ROOM.
WE HAVE A DRUG PROCESSING ROOM.
AND THEN THE CELL, RIGHT? IT WOULD ANYTHING WOULD HELP.
COULD IT BE REVISITED AND LOOK TO EXPAND ON THAT AREA IF THERE'S ROOM ORIGINALLY, AGAIN, MAYBE IN THAT AREA YOU JUST GO VERTICAL, MAYBE ON THE SECOND AND THEN ADD ON. YOU WOULD GO TO A TWO OR THREE STORY.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'D HAVE TO GET SOME MORE PARKING SPACE, BUT I MEAN.
THAT CAN BE A PARKING LOT ON THE FRONT IT'S NOT FULL.
I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO PARK YOUR IT'S PROBABLY IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THERE'S GREEN SPACE IN THE BACK OF THE PD.
SO THE AREA BACK THERE WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ORIGINALLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHOOPI AND I TALKED ABOUT, WE WERE KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS FEASIBILITY PIECE IS THERE'S THAT LAND THERE FOR THE CORNER OF CANNON. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT TO YOU, A LOT OF CITIES HAVE A COURT COMPLEX CALLED A LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPLEX OR
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SOMETHING, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE DOING A LITTLE SPLIT OPERATIONS.WHEN WE HAVE COURT OVER HERE, THEY SEND AN OFFICER OR TWO TO COME OVER HERE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS AN ISSUE HERE WITH THE COURT? YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A FOUR MINUTE PERSONAL REACTION, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER THAT WAY.
YOU COULD IF YOU HAD SOMEONE IN A JAIL CELL, YOU COULD WALK THEM OVER TO COURT.
SO AGAIN, YOU COULD POTENTIAL OPTION IS EXPAND THAT WAY AND CREATE SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL SPACE YOU NEED FOR THAT COMPLEX WITH A HALLWAY THAT CONNECTS TO FACILITIES.
SO I THINK I LIKE YOUR IDEA GENERALLY OF HAVING SOME SORT OF CONNECTIVITY OR CAMPUS STYLE, IF YOU WILL, COMPLEX WHATEVER THE RIGHT WORD IS.
BUT I THINK THEY WOULD STILL NEED ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR THAT WOULD BE A TOTALLY SEPARATE ADDITION.
THAT WOULD, RIGHT? I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S NOT Y'ALL.
I MEAN, THAT THAT WOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT TO HAVE YOUR OFFICERS CENTRALLY LOCATED.
YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, LIKE YOU SAID, TRANSPORT PRISONERS THERE ISN'T THAT BUILDING HOUSED MUNICIPAL COURT AND P.D.
WHERE THE TRAINING ROOM IS NOW USED TO BE THE MUNICIPAL COURT.
SO THEN WHEN THEY MOVED OVER HERE, THAT GAVE US THE EXPANSION OR THE TRAINING ROOM BUT.
I MEAN, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD TEN TO WHO KNOWS OUR POPULATION WE'VE GOT TO GET. WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE PLANS, I'M JUST KIND OF GUESSING IF YOU HAVE MOVABLE WALLS INSIDE, THE PLAN NEVER WAS TO GO UP.
THE FOUNDATION IS PROBABLY NOT THERE TO SUPPORT A SECOND FLOOR.
YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT, INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT.
AND IF THE PLAN AT ONE TIME WAS TO TO EXPAND SOUTHERLY, I GUESS WOULD BE.
YES. HOPEFULLY, THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN ORDER TO EXPAND THAT DIRECTION SO.
HAVE YOU HAD YOU DRAWN ON THE BACK OF A NAPKIN, WHAT YOU WANT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OR HAVE YOU OR I MEAN, YOU GOT SOME CONCEPTS, CONCEPTUAL IDEAS, HOW YOU'D LIKE TO EXPAND YOUR DEPARTMENT OVER THERE? WELL I'VE BEEN DREAMING OF IT.
OKAY. YEAH. AND THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE OVER THERE WITH, WITH MUNICIPAL COURT AND PD, AS FAR AS THE EXPANSION, ANY EXPANSIONS IS GOING TO HELP US. YES, SIR.
SO. YOU KNOW, JUST EXPANDING TOWARDS THE BACK, THAT WOULD BE THE MOST FINANCIALLY ACCEPTABLE PIECE.
BUT MUNICIPAL COURT, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HIM THERE.
YEAH. SO, I MEAN, HAVE YOU BEEN TO PEARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT? I'M NOT THE NEW ONE. NO, SIR.
OKAY. THEY HAVE A IT'S A TWO STORY FULL BUILD OUT.
HALF OF IT THE ENTIRE SECOND FLOOR IS DEDICATED TO POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE FIRST FLOOR CONTAINS EVIDENCE STORAGE RECORDS, AND THEN PART OF THAT IS THEIR COURTROOM AND THEIR COURT RECORDS, NOT JUST POLICE RECORDS.
I GUESS, AND THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING IT.
AND THAT OBVIOUSLY HELPED DEFRAY A LOT OF THEIR COSTS.
BUT ANYWAY, THE REASON TO RAISE THAT IS I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT THAT.
I MEAN, AGAIN, I ON THE SKY TYPE OF IDEA AND THERE.
YOU KNOW, FIVE TIMES LARGER THAN US.
PROBABLY CAN'T BE THE EXACT EQUIVALENT, BUT IT'S AN IDEA ANYWAY.
I MEAN, I'M SURE WE'RE VERY WAYS SURPASSED SPACING.
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I MEAN, JUST THE HALLWAY CONNECTED TO BUILDINGS, BUT PUT SOME SPACING IN BETWEEN THEM AND THEN DO A TWO STORY VERTICAL AND MAYBE MOVE ADD MEN TO THERE AND THEN JUST KEEP YOUR OPERATIONS INSIDE THAT BUILDING AND THEN PUT ADMIN IN SOME OF THAT SUPPORT SERVICES IN THE NEW BUILDING, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE LAND RIGHT NEXT DOOR.SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS ENVISIONING BECAUSE IT IS A PERFECT LOCATION IN MY OPINION.
WHERE IT SETS CURRENTLY IS AS IT IS NOW AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE.
I'D SEE PROBABLY ANOTHER TWO TIMES THE SIZE OF HER JUST BECAUSE OF THE FUTURE GROWTH.
AND IF YOU DON'T USE IT, THE BEGINNING CERTAINLY WILL BE THERE FOR THE FUTURE.
YES, BUT YEAH, THAT'S I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING, TRAVIS, IF WE COULD KNOW.
CAN I GO WITH UMBILICAL AND WORK THAT WAY OR FREESTANDING? YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHEN FALL, THE MONEY COMES AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO DONATE SOME MONEY, PUT THEIR NAME ON A BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE IT.
WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT SOME OF IT YOU HAVE TO KEEP FOREVER.
WELL, THAT WAS THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO HAVE.
I HAVE TO YOU MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING, BUT THERE'S STUFF YOU GOT TO KEEP FOREVER.
AND THOSE IT FOREVER THINGS JUST KEEP TAKING UP MORE ROOM.
WELL. SO JUST KIND OF CONCEPTUALLY.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS FALLS ON THE LIST OF PRIORITIES.
I MEAN, I'M NOT I JUST WANT TO BE I DON'T KNOW, BUT.
LIKE LIKE I WAS SAYING EARLIER, I KNOW I TALKED ABOUT CAN THERE BE A POSSIBILITY OF A SECOND FLOOR? WHY WOULD YOU NOT? AND MAYBE THIS KIND OF GOES AGAIN.
AND. YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLORE.
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW THERE'LL BE MONEY ROLLING OFF DEBT SERVICES.
AT SOME POINT, WE CAN GO OUT FOR MORE.
YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU START NOW FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MAY ROLL OFF IN THREE YEARS, YOU MIGHT BE IN A POSITION IN THREE YEARS TO START CHECKING OFF THAT LIST, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF.
AS WE SEE THE BUILDING PROCESS SOMETIMES SLOW.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIX FACILITIES OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND I'M GOING TO SAY, WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY? WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT, BUT THEN I'M GOING TO GO AND SAY, BUT THEN I'M GOING TO GO AND SAY, WHOEVER'S NUMBER ONE, PUT THAT IN YOUR BUDGET BUDGET TO GET A FEASIBILITY ASSESSMENT BASED OFF OF NEEDS.
AND SO 10,000, 50,000 AND COME BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING YOU SAY SAME LOCATION, RIGHT.
I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO USING STRETCHING TOWARDS THAT OTHER SIDE AS WELL.
I DON'T I FEEL LIKE A BUILDING BUILT IN 1995.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RESTRUCTURE THAT OR UTILIZE IT TO SOME CAPACITY.
WHETHER THAT BECOMES YOUR CORE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU BUILD A BRAND NEW ALL OR NOTHING PLACED UPON, YOU KNOW, WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU GOT THAT OLD ONE, TURN IT INTO YOUR COURT FACILITY WITH RECORDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, FINE, WE CAN DO THAT.
OR MAYBE MAYBE IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE EXTEND OFF OF THAT TO KEEP IT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE BUILD A SEPARATE COURT, YOU KNOW? CAPA STYLE.
YOU KNOW. I MEAN, IT'S SO HARD TO GET INTO THE PARTICULARS RIGHT NOW.
BUT I MEAN, LET'S THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY.
I APPRECIATE IT. I MEAN, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH THIS.
IT CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT MUNICIPAL COURT.
IS WHERE YOU DEAL WITH THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE HAD TO CATCH ON THE STREET, YOU KNOW? ALL THAT STUFF OUGHT TO GET DONE IN ONE CENTRAL AREA SHOP RATHER THAN BRINGING THEM OVER HERE IN ANOTHER FACILITY AND TAKING UP A ROOM IN CITY HALL WHEN YOU KNOW AND.
SO YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT, THOUGH, CECIL, AND THAT IS.
IF WE WERE TO ADD A COURT FACILITY, WE WOULD OPEN SPACE IN THIS OFFICE TOO.
SO THERE WOULD BE A SECONDARY BENEFIT IN THAT.
THERE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE OUT RECORDS.
AND THAT WHOLE SECTION THAT OCCUPIES THIS PART OF THE.
RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S LARGELY THE SECURITY, RIGHT? I MEAN, SECURITY IS OBVIOUSLY CENTRAL TO YOU.
BUT FOR US, WE'D I WOULD WE WOULD HAVE AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT OF GIVING CITY COUNCIL.
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AND THEY GO THERE TO THE POLICE STATION, TO OUR MUNICIPAL COURT FACILITIES TO.TO TAKE CARE OF THAT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME.
I MEAN, SURE, THAT'S I MEAN, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
I AGREE. IF IF WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN, IT'S.
BETTER THAN PROBABLY THE CURRENT SETUP.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB MAKING IT HAPPEN HERE, SO.
AND AS YOU KEEP DOING IT, I MEAN, AS AS THE POPULATION GROWS HERE IN TOWN, THE THE NUMBER OF POLICE, THE NUMBER AND THE POLICE FORCE HAS TO GROW.
THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE USED IN THE POLICE FORCE HAS TO GROW.
PARKING PLACES HAVE TO HAVE TO GROW.
IT'S. IT'S JUST AN ONGOING THING.
SO WHAT WAS THIS SALLY THING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? A GARAGE AREA WHERE WE BRING PRISONERS.
OKAY. IT'S A SECURITY ISSUE AS WELL.
BUT WE'LL WORK ON A WISH ON ON THE BUILDING.
AND THEN SO LET'S TALK ABOUT ANIMAL CONTROL.
THERE'S NO QUESTION THERE THAT WE'VE OUTGROWN IT.
THAT'S THE OLD WATER DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE REMODELING THE INSIDE.
IT LOOKS WONDERFUL. LOOKS GREAT.
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ANIMALS IN THE BACK.
TRY TO GET THE FRONT LOOKING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO THE IDEA THERE IS FOR THE EYE APPEAL.
COME IN. WE'VE MADE IT BETTER IN THE INSIDE.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE ANIMALS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO GET SOMEBODY TO COME OUT.
YOU JUST SEE THEM SAY, HEY, I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT CAT OR I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT DOG.
THEN THEN AT THAT POINT THEY CAN COME GET SOMEBODY TO COME HELP THEM.
BUT THE BACK IS NOT BEEN RENOVATED.
WE STAY AT CAPACITY WITH DOGS AND CATS, YOU KNOW.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OWNER SURRENDERS JUST IN THE PAST WEEK.
THE BUILDING. I THINK CECIL HAS BEEN OVER THERE AND LOOKED AT THE BUILDING.
THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING IN THAT TIN IS STARTING TO RUST OUT OR GET EAT OUT FROM.
DOLPHIN SAYS IT'S THE WORD HE USED TO HOUSE THE CHEMICALS.
CHEMICALS RIGHT FROM WHEN IT WAS THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE BEAMS BECAUSE IT WAS JUST RUSTED AND WELD ANOTHER PIECE ONTO THAT JUST FOR STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.
IT'S JUST THERE'S NO OTHER WORD TO SAY IT.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, AS THE CITY GROWS, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO NOT COME WITH THEIR DOGS AND CATS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE. WHAT FUNDRAISING MECHANISMS OTHER THAN JUST CITY BUDGET ARE OPTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY OPTIONS OUT THERE? DO YOU KNOW? ARE YOU AWARE OF.
OKAY, WE JUST WE JUST DID ONE LAST WEEK CALLED JORDANS WAY.
GUY COMES IN AND DOES ALL KINDS OF TRICKS AND STUFF AND GIVES ANIMALS TREATS.
AND I THINK BRENDA AND HER TEAM RAISED ALMOST $10,000 FOR THAT.
WE GET LOTS AND LOTS OF DONATIONS FROM JUST REGULAR CITIZENS TO COME IN.
ALL RIGHT, HERE'S AN EXTRA 100 FOR ANIMAL SERVICES WE'RE GETTING.
THAT MONEY IS TO GET THE DOGS AND CATS OUT THE DOOR TO A HOME.
RIGHT. IT'S NOT FOR FACILITIES, RIGHT? RIGHT. IT'S NOT FOR FACILITIES.
AND ALSO WITH GOING BACK TO FACILITIES ON THE PD.
JUST THINKING ABOUT READING THE LAW ON OUR SEIZURE FUNDS, WE STILL HAVE AN OFFICER OUT THERE AND YOU CAN USE THAT SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR REMODELING OR WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO AT THE PD.
SO, BUT AT THIS POINT, IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT.
YEAH, IT'S LIKE 30,000 OR 36,000.
AND I'VE SPENT ABOUT 29,000 OF IT.
SO WE GOT A CHECK COMING IN, BUT THAT CAN'T BE USED TOWARDS ARMED SERVICES AND ANIMAL SERVICES.
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PROBABLY GET SOMEWHERE IN THE VICINITY.$180,000 A YEAR TO PROVIDE THAT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER BUILDING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MULTI MILLION DOLLAR BUILDING.
I THINK PROBABLY WE COULD GET AWAY WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS DOING.
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY TO GIVE US TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
IF I WERE GIVEN A CHOICE IN ANIMAL SERVICES, I WOULD PICK ANIMAL SERVICES FIRST.
I THINK THEY'RE IN THE GREATER NEED.
BECAUSE IT'S JUST WE'RE AT CAPACITY AND WE'RE GROWING AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE CAPACITY.
AT THIS POINT, YOU COULD EXPAND INTO WHERE WE HAD THE BARN.
AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM OVER THERE.
THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM OVER THERE TO GO.
WHICH WAY? THE QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS, IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST FRAUGHT WITH PROPERTY, WE'VE GOT JUST A LIMITED AMOUNT OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS, BUT.
IN THE ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING WAS THERE BECAUSE WE HAD THAT PLACE TO PUT IT AT.
SO WE CAN JUST MAKE A COMMITMENT TO KEEP ANIMAL SERVICES THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.
AND JUST USE THE LAND WE HAVE THERE AND WHATEVER FACILITY GOES IN, GOES IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE YOU WOULD GO IF YOU DIDN'T IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT THERE.
YEAH. WHAT IS? I'VE NEVER EXPLORED THIS.
SO THE COST OF LIKE THESE WHOLE BARNS OR THE ONES THAT YOU START TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF THE PARTY BARN STYLE THINGS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAT WE COULD PERHAPS UTILIZE? YES. I MEAN, SO AGAIN, PROBABLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER THEN, ESPECIALLY IF THAT'S I THINK THAT'S ESPECIALLY FOR ANIMAL CONTROL, THAT'S PROBABLY THE COST EFFECTIVE.
AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD IT TO.
WHAT SCOTT'S DOING, WHERE IT'S THREE STORIES TALL TO FIT A FIRE TRUCK IN.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE THE VALUE OF THE UTILITIES THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING EMPTY SPACE, RIGHT.
AND THEN YOU RECONDITION THE CURRENT.
WE DON'T NEED WE DON'T NEED TO BE FANCY ABOUT IT.
WE JUST LOOK AT THE OVERALL PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU HAVE THERE.
IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT YOU WOULD SAY THAT THE ANIMAL SERVICES WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE PRECEDENCE.
YES, SIR. BECAUSE WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES.
THOSE ANIMALS WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF.
AND HER TEAM HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF THOSE ANIMALS, ADOPTED THEM OUT.
THEY GO ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY.
IN TRUTH ME KNOW BRENDA PROBABLY SPENDS A MAJORITY OF HER PAYCHECK.
PUTTING IT BACK INTO THAT BUILDING AND THOSE THINGS FOR THE ANIMALS.
WE NEED SOME BETTER FACILITIES, BIGGER FACILITIES FOR EVEN IF WE DON'T GO REGIONAL, JUST OUR ANIMALS IN ANGLETON TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ABANDONED DOGS, THAT THE CATS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE FOLKS, TOO.
OR THOSE ANIMALS THAT CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.
SO TO ME, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO LIKE A REGIONAL CONCEPT.
WOULD 180,000 ANNUALLY HELP? ASSUMING WE GOT THINGS IN ORDER LIKE A BIGGER FACILITY, OR AT LEAST WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO WORK WITHIN THAT BUDGET? WHAT CITY OF ANGLETON GETS PLUS FREEPORT.
AND YOU SAID, WHAT DOES IT REALLY INCLUDE?
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AND IT WOULD BE CLOSE.IT WOULD BE CLOSE BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO ADD.
IT SEEMS TO ME, JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO FACTOR IN INFLATION.
PLUS YOU'RE ADDING PERSONNEL, PLUS YOU'RE ADDING PERSONNEL.
THE MORE ANIMALS YOU GET, THE MORE VEHICLES ARE GOING TO GET, MORE PATROL OFFICERS ARE GOING TO NEED, THE MORE TECHS WE'RE GOING TO NEED, THE MORE VET SERVICES WE'RE GOING TO NEED. SO.
YEAH. IN THE HIGHER COST OF ALL THE STUFF THEY GOT TO GET SO THEY CAN GET IT RIGHT.
I MEAN, JUST TO COST ON OXYGEN.
SO HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH MY NEXT THING IS THEN THE CIRCLE BACK TO THE FACILITY.
IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER THAT AND THIS IS JUST AN IDEA I'M NOT IN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
AND IF IT CAN BE DONE FOR 400,000 AND WE TAKE ON THE BULK OF THE EXPENSE, BUT THEY CAN AT LEAST PAY.
YOU KNOW, THESE FIVE FIGURES, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THAT, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO SIX WOULD BE GREAT.
RIGHT. WE CAN EXPECT 20 YEARS OUT OF THEM.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT'D BE GREAT IF IT WAS ONE LUMP SUM CHECK.
BUT I GUESS IN THEORY, IF IT'S FINANCED, YOU COULD PAY IT OUT OVER THE PERIOD.
WELL, WE WENT UP ON RICHWOOD TO 40,000, THANKS TO JUDITH.
YOU KNOW, I EXPECTED THEM TO GO OUT AND GET OTHER BIDS.
THEY WERE GETTING A GOOD DEAL TO START WITH.
BUT WE WERE GIVING THEM THE DEAL.
WE WERE GIVING IT THAT RICHWOOD, RIGHT.
SO WE'VE GOT TO CONSIDER THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE SERVICE, WHICH WE REPORT INCLUDE OR NOT THERE YET FOR PROVIDING ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY PAY OUT OF THEIR BUDGET FOR OPERATIONS OR.
WHAT THEY PAID. JACKSON SPEAKER.
CHRIS, WHEN THEY HAD THEIR AGREEMENT WITH LAKE JACKSON, DID THEY HAVE A LONG TERM AGREEMENT? THREE YEARS, FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS, AND THEN, OF COURSE, THEY REVIEWED IT.
AND IT WON'T STAY AT THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THEY OBVIOUSLY KNOW LIKE US, IT'S GOING TO SLIDE.
IT'S GOING TO OBVIOUSLY SLIDE UP EVERY COUPLE OF THREE YEARS.
WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THAT AND GO, OKAY, COSTS HAVE GONE UP HERE.
WE HAD TODAY, YOU KNOW, HERE AT IN THREE YEARS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT 185 IS GOING TO CONTINUOUSLY GROW, OF COURSE, ALONG WITH OUR COSTS.
BUT I WOULD THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE CLOSE.
THE OPERATIONAL PIECE WILL PROBABLY COME RIGHT BEHIND IT.
IT'S JUST THEY GOT TO COMMIT A LITTLE BIT HARDER.
YOU KNOW, THAT GOES JASON PIECE BECAUSE WE LOVE TO HELP THEM, TOO.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY REALLY WANT TO BUY INTO THAT, THEY WOULD REALLY MAYBE TRY TO FIND THAT EXTRA DOLLAR SOMEWHERE, BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO PARTNER WITH THEM, BE REGIONAL, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO I'M NOT BRINGING IT BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT.
BUT MAYBE THE OTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS? OKAY. AND I THINK I'M WITH JEFF AS WELL.
BUT BUT YOU'RE IN A BUILDING THAT WAS MADE FOR PD.
THEY'RE IN A BUILDING THAT WAS NOT MADE FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
AND THEY'RE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN TO MAKE AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M SOFT WITH THE ANIMALS AS WELL.
THAT'S. THAT'S. THEY TELL YOU MY HEART.
BUT I WOULD TELL YOU, IF YOU GO FOR A PD COMPLEX.
RIGHT. AND YOU MOVED CAUGHT UP TO WHERE PD IS AND BUILT PD THEIR OWN FACILITY.
I WOULD SAY AT THAT POINT YOU JUST THROW IN THE EXTRA 500,000 OR WHATEVER WE DETERMINE THAT IS TO EXPAND THE SHELTER THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND YOU KIND OF TAKE CARE OF THE THE TWO THINGS AT ONCE.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE A $6 MILLION BOND TO BUILD A NEW POLICE STATION.
SO. WELL, WHAT'S ANOTHER 500,000? I UNDERSTAND THE.
I AGREE. I'M WHAT YOU SAY MAKES SENSE, HOWEVER.
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JUST BEING REALISTIC IN MY MIND.IT'S A LITTLE WAYS AWAY, WHEREAS ANIMAL SHELTER MAY BE SOMETHING YOU NEED A LITTLE MORE.
THANK YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. WE'RE.
YEAH, I'M JUST MAKING A SUGGESTION WHEN WE GO BOND FOR SOMETHING.
YEAH, BUT PENCIL IN 500,000, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THIS CURRENT BOND.
WE GOT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS STACKED IN THERE.
I JUST. I MEAN, I'M NOT AGAINST WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YEAH, I GUESS WE'LL SEE. OKAY.
IF WE CAN ACHIEVE SOMETHING A LITTLE QUICKER ON A QUICKER TIMELINE, I THINK.
YEAH, THAT WOULD. THAT'S ALL I'M GETTING.
I MEAN. I'M GOING BY WHAT THE CHIEFS TOLD US.
I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING BY THAT CONCEPT ALSO.
BUT WE CAN DO IT WITHIN OUR $10 MILLION BOND.
RIGHT? SO WE SPENT SPENDING 450,000 FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING.
THERE'S $500,000 LEFT AMONG ROADS AND SOME OF THE OTHER PARTIES.
THAT'S THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THAT FORWARD.
JUST. NO, I MEAN, NO, I APPRECIATE IT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, IF.
IF IT WORKED OUT AS SO, THEN CLEARLY WE WOULD BE.
SHOULD CONSIDER DOING JUST THAT.
I REACHED OUT TO AN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL BECAUSE THEY GOT THAT BOND ISSUE PASSED.
SO MAYBE IF BECAUSE MY MIND IS SEEING THE OLD LOEWS BUILDING OUT THERE, WHAT IT WOULD HAVE FACILITY THAT WOULD BE FOR AN ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY BE GREAT.
IF I TALK TO MIKE SULLIVAN, HE'LL GET BACK WITH ME.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO ABANDON THAT BUILDING.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO MOVE EVERYBODY OUT OF THERE.
I THOUGHT SO, TOO. FOR STARTING SOMETHING FOR STORAGE, I THOUGHT.
YES. WE CAN STORE ANIMALS IN A NICE PLACE, YOU KNOW.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IS THAT ON THE NORTHEAST PART OF TOWN? INTERESTING. AND DOWN.
USED TO BE LOWE'S. LONG TIME AGO.
I FORGOT IT WAS THE LOWEST BUILDING.
YEAH. DIDN'T WE HAVE THE LOWS FOR LAKE JACKSON THEN? WE DID. I THOUGHT SO, YEAH.
WE HAD A LOT OF STUFF FOR JACKSON.
GAUSS. SO HOW ABOUT REC CENTER NEXT? SURE. NO, YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
WELL, I WILL TELL YOU AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE THIS IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE REITERATED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, WHILE IT HAS COME UP IN DISCUSSIONS FOR FUTURE EXPANSION WITHIN OUR PARK BOARD MEETINGS. AGAIN, IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE THAT AS AN EMPLOYEE OR STAFFER I WOULD RECOMMEND IS A MORE IMMEDIATE NEED THAN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD OR DISCUSSED. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OFFICE SPACE.
HOWEVER, WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE NEW BUILDING POTENTIALLY MOVING OUR REC DIVISION.
YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY AWARE OF THE SPLIT THAT WE HAD IN THE REC DIVISION.
SO WE HAVE THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND ITS INDEPENDENT OPERATIONS WHILE YOU HAVE A WHOLE NOTHER DIVISION THAT DOES RECREATION, THAT OPERATES IN OFFICES OUT OF THE REC CENTER, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PHYSICALLY OFFICE THERE.
THEY HOLD SOME PROGRAMS THERE.
THEY ALSO HOLD PROGRAMS AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR AT PARKS AND MANAGE OUR SPECIAL EVENTS AND SO ON.
SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WHICH ARE FOUR INDIVIDUALS, A SUPERINTENDENT AND THREE RECREATION SPECIALISTS, WE HAD RECOMMENDED MOVE OUT OF THAT COMPLEX TO OPEN UP SOME MORE SPACE WITHIN THE ACTUAL FACILITY FOR FUTURE GROWTH OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DIVISION THAT WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE THAT.
AS FAR AS OFFICES GO, AS FAR AS LONG TERM EXPANSION FOR COMMUNITY NEED.
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AS FAR AS RECREATIONAL AMENITIES GO, THE PRIMARY FOCUS FOR US IS RENOVATING THE EXISTING FACILITY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE VALUE OUR PATRONS DESERVE.WE ALSO HAVE ACTIONS THAT'S BEEN IN THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND OCCUPIES A ROOM THAT'S RENTABLE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE THE SENIOR PROGRAMING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN PLACE TO MAKE THAT THOSE THINGS MORE RENTABLE, THAT'S POTENTIALLY MORE INCOME FOR THE REC CENTER, WHICH IS NOT OPERATING IN AN OPTIMAL.
SO SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THOSE THINGS AND REMIND YOU ALL THAT WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT ARE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF MADE THOSE ARRANGEMENTS AND I THINK WE'RE KIND OF OPEN ENDED REALLY ON BOTH.
RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT, CHRIS.
THE AREA THAT ACTIONS IS OPERATES OUT OF IS ACTUALLY A RENTABLE.
LIKE CHRIS SAID, THERE ARE TWO RENTABLE ROOMS. YOU CAN OPEN IT UP, RENT THE ENTIRE ROOM.
BUT WITH CONTINUED GROWTH, YOU CAN EXPECT THE NEED TO TO INCREASE.
AND THEN THE MOMENT YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE ELIMINATING SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC.
SO YOU'VE GOT TO CONSIDER THAT FOR FUTURE EXPANSION AS WELL.
DO YOU WANT TO ELIMINATE THOSE SERVICES? OUR PHILOSOPHY IS TO KEEP THEM OPEN, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE MEMBER BASED OR DAILY ADMISSION BASE.
SO WE ARE GETTING PRESSED ON THAT.
AND AS FAR AS OUR SENIOR PROGRAM IS GROWING, IT WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO GROW.
WE HOPE. THAT'S BEEN ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WHEN WE HAD THE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT GRANT WE MAY HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR FOR A SENIOR FACILITY IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COMPLEX.
THOSE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AT ONE TIME.
AND SO AGAIN, MOVING THE REC DIVISION OUT, WHEREVER THAT MAY BE, AND POTENTIALLY HAVING A SPACE THAT SENIORS COULD GO TO, YOU COULD OFFSET YOU COULD BRING THAT PROGRAM OUT OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AS WELL TO EXPAND FOR INCREASED AEROBIC CLASSES AND POPULATION.
AND ALSO IT LIMITS THE NUMBER OF PATRONS YOU CAN HAVE IN THAT SPACE.
SO AND THAT SENIOR AREA HAS GOT A KITCHEN TOO, SO IT MAKES IT A NICE OPPORTUNITY IF SOMEONE WANTS COME IN AND HAVE A PARTY THAT THEY'VE GOT FACILITIES TO COOK OR KEEP STUFF WARM. YEAH.
I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER THE SENIOR EMERGENCY MANAGER THING THAT CAME UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
YEAH. YEAH. I FEEL LIKE WE DISCUSSED THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR MAYBE, AND I CAN'T RECALL WHAT GRANT THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE $1.7 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM GLO THAT WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR.
WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ON I AND I, AND SINCE WE CAN'T SPEND IT FOR THAT FACILITY AND SO IT KIND OF TAKES THAT OFF THE TABLE AND THE THOUGHT WAS TO PUT THE BUILDING. THE SENIOR COMPLEX OR SENIOR ROOM OR SENIOR WHATEVER BEHIND THE SENIOR CENTER WITH THE SPACES AND YOU ALSO COULD USE IT AS A SHELTER DURING EMERGENCY TIMES AND HAVE A COUPLE OF OFFICES THAT YOU COULD PUT STUFF IN FOR STORAGE AND YOU COULD USE A WARMING SHELTER, YOU COULD USE IT FOR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS OR WHATEVER, BUT IT WOULD MEET THE PURPOSE OF.
AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR GRANTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
BUT THAT WAS KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS.
YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD KIND OF.
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THINKING ABOUT CHIEF.WHAT ABOUT AGAIN, COMING UP WITH ALMOST A MASTER PLAN, WITH THE IDEA THAT IF WHETHER WE WERE ABLE TO AT SOME POINT GO IN WITH A LARGE BOND OR IF PIECEMEAL BY GRANT, SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EIGHT YEARS LATER, WE'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE COULD WE SHOULD TEAR THAT ALL DOWN.
I MEAN, IT HAPPENS SOMETIMES, BUT I'D LIKE FOR US NOT TO HAVE TO GO THAT ROUTE.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE IDEA OF PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, MORE RENTAL SPACE, RACQUETBALL COURTS MORE.
I MEAN, YOU YOU HAVE OTHER IDEAS, I'M SURE.
ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I'M GETTING AT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD A PIECE THAT THROUGH SOME SORT OF GRANT OR SOMETHING, THAT WE'RE JUST IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S TEMPORARY, ESPECIALLY FOR A SEVEN FIGURE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. I DO AGREE THAT THAT WOULD BE WISE TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE USING THE EXISTING.
AND THAT'S WHAT ME AND CHRIS TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY WAS IT? THIS WAS THE DAY MONDAY.
SORRY, GUYS. I WAS ON VACATION LAST WEEK, SO I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHERE I'M AT IS TO DEVELOP OUT OF THIS TONIGHT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR FACILITIES BECAUSE WE HAVE IT FOR THE OTHER STUFF, BUT NOT FOR STRICTLY FACILITIES AND THE PRIORITY LIST.
AND MAYBE PART OF THIS, TRAVIS, IS WE CAN ENVISION A MASTER, IF YOU WILL, OF FACILITIES LIKE NOT LIKE SERVICES, BUT WHERE WE CAN MAKE COMBINE, WHERE WE WANT TO PUT OUT, WHERE WE MIGHT LIKE TO SEE HIM ONE DAY, BUT JUST DEVELOP SOME SORT OF ROADMAP FOR THE FUTURE.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE FIGURE IT OUT.
AND TEN YEARS AGO, THEN THEY TALK ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, OR WHAT THEY ENVISION BACK THEN.
YEP. SO YEAH, YOU CAN AT LEAST START ONE TONIGHT.
SOMETHING TO JOHNS ON HERE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
AND I WILL SAY THAT THOSE DO I MEAN, JUST EVEN SPEAKING TO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO SPEAK AT THE APPLY FOR A SESSION AT THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A PLAN IN PLACE.
AND SO I THINK THAT WILL HELP US IF WE DO DECIDE TO DO A MASTER PLAN THAT REALLY GIVES STAFF A ROADMAP TO COMPLETE THOSE VARIOUS ITEMS. AND ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION WAS WHILE THERE MAY BE FEDERAL GRANTS AVAILABLE P W, JUST LIKE TEXT DOT AND OTHER AGENCIES IN TEXAS HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY THAT THEY ARE HAVING TO DISPERSE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
AND ONE OF THOSE GRANTS WOULD INCLUDE INDOOR RECREATIONAL USE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PURSUE.
BUT A MASTER PLAN WOULD BE A GREAT START.
AND JASON, I'M BEING A LITTLE OVER THE BOARD, ABOUT 320.
I MEAN, WE NEED THAT AS A CITY, WHETHER IT'S ROADS OR UTILITIES OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? WE CAN CHUNK AT IT IN FEASIBILITY.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO GET IT.
RIGHT. AND WE SAY THAT'S OUR CITY PRIORITY, RIGHT? AND SO WE CAN CHUNK AT THAT WITHOUT A GREAT COST.
RIGHT. AND, AND THEN NUMBER TWO BECOMES THE BUDGET YEAR AFTER THAT.
OR MAYBE WE CAN PAY FOR ONE AND TWO.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS WE GAIN DEBT CAPACITY AND WE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, THEN WE, WE WEDGE IT, RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE I LIKE THAT IT'S NOT A GOLF TOPIC, BUT I KNOW YOU HAD A SPREADSHEET FOR US AT ONE POINT THAT SHOWED LIKE CIP AND IT SHOWED LIKE WIDGETS AND GADGETS AND YOU SHOWED WE NEED TO GET THIS, THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS YEAR, THIS, THIS OR THIS, THIS YEAR, THIS, THIS, THIS YEAR.
SAME THING WITH FACILITIES REALLY SNOW UP HERE.
WE WANT TO SEE THIS, THIS AND THIS AND THIS.
AND IN FIVE YEARS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND JUST SOMETHING THAT AT LEAST GETS US STARTED.
AND I MEAN, I LIKE IT. YOU CAN YOU'LL SAVE MONEY WHERE YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU CAN WITH WHAT WE GOT.
THAT'S WHY I GOT TO GET YOU ALL TO PRIORITIZE THAT SO I CAN GET ON LOOPY.
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AND THEN WHEN COME TO BUDGET REMIND THAT YOU ALL SAID NUMBER ONE THING IS YEAH, APD RIGHT OR REC CENTER OR WHATEVER AND THEN WE CAN GO AFTER THAT AND PURSUE THAT OR GET A GRANT TO GET THAT KIND OF STUDY DONE OR SOMETHING.THEN FOR I WANT TO TELL MEGAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO.
TAKE A SMALL STEP BEHIND OTHER PROJECTS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS BECAUSE I KNOW DIRECTOR, IT'S ALWAYS.
ONE. SURE. YOU KNOW, WELL, WE'RE A TEAM.
AND SO WE KNOW WHERE THE THE NEED REALLY IS.
SO BUT I WILL SAY NOT THAT I MEAN, ALL THESE THINGS ADD VALUE TO OUR CITY.
AND AND CHRIS HAD BEEN TO MEETINGS AND QUALITY OF LIFE IS JUST AN IMPORTANT VALUE THAT WILL HELP US CONTINUE TO GROW AND STAY STRONG AS A COMMUNITY. AND IF YOU EVER GO BY THE REC CENTER AT ANY PRETTY MUCH ON ANY GIVEN TIME, IT'S IT'S PRETTY WELL UTILIZED.
I GO BY THERE SOMETIMES I'M JUST AMAZED AT THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE ARE PRESENT.
SO I ASSUME THAT THAT'S AT LEAST ONE PERSON PER CAR, SOME PROBABLY MORE SO.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLY ON.
GROUPS YOU HAVE RUNNING THESE PROGRAMS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MOVING SOME PEOPLE OUT OF THERE, WHERE WOULD THEY GO? SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE FEASIBILITY AND THE LAYOUT OF THE NEW SERVICE CENTER OR OPERATIONS COMPLEX WAS THAT THEY WOULD OFFICE OUT OF THAT AREA.
WHILE THEY MAY HOLD PROGRAMS AT THE REC CENTER AND ONE OF THOSE ROOMS, THEY DON'T NEED TO OFFICE THERE, THEY'RE NOT A COMPONENT OF DAILY OPERATIONS OF THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.
SO. SO YOU'RE SAYING WE WOULD MOVE THESE PEOPLE OUT TO.
WHERE? TO THE STREET? NO, THE FUTURE OPERATIONS COMPLEX, WHEREVER THAT.
SO THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN? THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN TODAY.
THIS WOULD HAPPEN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, CORRECT.
SURE. JUST I NEED TO GET UNDERSTANDING.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHAT I'M ASKING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ASK MY QUESTION.
SO, JASON, HOW ABOUT WE MOVE TO NEXT CITY HALL? CITY HALL? GO FOR IT.
THAT'S MARTHA. CUOMO SAID THEY HAD NO PRIOR PREPARATION OTHER THAN I SAID WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
ALL WE'VE DONE ABOUT CITY HALL IS WE ARE OUT OF SPACE HERE.
YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE MAKING CLOSETS INTO OFFICES.
THAT IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I'VE SEEN IT. WE DON'T HAVE STORAGE.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR CITY PROPERTY.
WE DID A FEASIBILITY BASED ON JUST THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
WE FILLED OUT A QUESTIONNAIRE.
HOW MUCH SPACE DO WE NEED? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? COULD WE REWORK THIS SPACE? DOES MUNICIPAL COURT NEED TO BE HERE? HOW DO WE SERVICE VISITORS AS THEY COME IN? WHAT ABOUT A CONFERENCE ROOM THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO THE INNER SANCTUM TO GET TO? MAYBE IT SHOULD BE UP FRONT.
YOU KNOW, COUNCIL CHAMBERS USED TO BE WHERE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS.
SO THIS BUILDING IS A RETROFIT OF THE OLD POST OFFICE.
USED TO COME IN THE SIDE DOOR.
YEAH. SO JUST WE HAVEN'T DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE PUT A KIND OF A STOP ON THAT.
BUT WE WERE JUST TRYING TO ASSESS WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE, WHAT DO WE NEED? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE IN THIS BUILDING? I'VE GOT A REMOTE WORKER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SPACE FOR HER WHEN SHE COMES TO CITY HALL.
I'M ON ONE SIDE AND SHE'S ON THE OTHER.
YEAH, I'VE GOT A PICTURE OF THAT LAST.
YEAH, AND IT HAPPENS SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK, SO IT'S NOT IDEAL.
SO WE HAVE WE HAVE A LOT OF SPACE ISSUES HERE AS WELL.
BUT AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO LOOK AT ADDING MORE ROOMS. AND AGAIN, IF YOU MOVE THE COURT SO THAT TAKES ALL THAT AND THAT COULD BECOME STORES, THAT COULD BECOME OTHER OFFICES.
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AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL SECURITY, WE'VE GOT FOLKS THAT ARE ENTERTAINING CUSTOMERS IN THE BACK.WHY AREN'T THEY ALL TOGETHER? AND YOU JUST HAVE ONE POINT OF ENTRY.
RIGHT. AND RIGHT NOW, MARIA IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS NOT ONLY DOING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, PERMITS AND STUFF FOR THEM, BUT SHE'S SERVING AS PART OF THE CITY.
SOMEONE'S COME SEE MARTHA AND THEY SAY, HEY, I'M HERE TO SEE MARTHA.
YEAH, WE'RE HERE TO SEE CITY MANAGER.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE LETTING PEOPLE JUST WANDER THROUGH CITY HALL.
I MEAN, WE MAKE SURE THEY GET OUT, BUT YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF PEOPLE.
YOU GOT A GROUP OF FIVE PEOPLE AND ONE GOES THE BATHROOM AND NEVER COMES BACK.
I MEAN, WHO'S CONTROLLING THAT? AND THEY CAN WALK INTO ANY OFFICE.
AND SO IT'S A YOU KNOW, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, AN EFFICIENCY ISSUE.
OVERSIGHT OR SUPPORT OR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CLOSE OUT.
THERE'S NOT A SUPERVISOR AND THERE'S AN ISSUE.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE REAL SITUATIONS.
MOST BUILDINGS I'VE BEEN TO, WHEN YOU GET THERE, THEY SAY, HEY, THE CONFERENCE ROOM IS OPEN, THERE'S BATHROOMS RIGHT THERE, BUT YOU HAVE NO OTHER ACCESS TO THE REST OF THE BUILDING. SO PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND SIT DOWN WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR STAFF.
RIGHT? THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE WALKED BACK TO THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
JUST. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS.
WE CAN'T GO UP SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO? AND THEN AGAIN, DO YOU MOVE PORTS OUT OR DO YOU MOVE UTILITIES OUT OR DO YOU MOVE OTHER THINGS TO CREATE THAT SPACE IN HERE AND THEN REARRANGE A LITTLE BIT BY MOVING A ROOM UP AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND JASON, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TO LUFKIN WHERE THERE IS NO RECEPTIONIST.
IT'S WHAT DEPARTMENT DO YOU WANT? PICK UP THE PHONE AND DIAL IT AND THEY COME TO YOU.
AND SO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE COMPLAINING, BUT AGAIN, YOU GOT ONE PERSON THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THEIR JOB IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND NOW YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE DISTRACTIONS OF PEOPLE COMING TO SEE OTHER OTHER THINGS.
OKAY. IT'S NOT VERY EFFICIENT, RIGHT? WELL, THERE WAS A RECEPTIONIST, IF I REMEMBER, AS YOU FIRST CAME IN THE DOOR.
YEP. THERE WAS A GLASSED OFF SPACE RIGHT THERE.
THE YOUNG LADY WAS SIT THERE TO HELP YOU.
AND NOW THAT'S GONE. WELL, SHE WASN'T REALLY.
THAT SPACE ISN'T THERE ANYMORE.
IT'S A WALL. THERE'S TWO CHAIRS AND THAT'S RIGHT.
SO THERE'S NO RECEPTIONIST, RIGHT? SHE WAS THE WATER CLERK.
FIRST PERSON YOU SAW WHEN YOU WALKED IN THE DOOR TO SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW.
THAT'S THE RECEPTION, RIGHT? YOU GO ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD YOU WANT TO GO TO, FIRST PERSON YOU SEE IS THE PERSON YOU WANT TO ASK, HEY, I GOT TO GO SEE SO-AND-SO.
SURE, THEY BECOME THE RECEPTIONIST.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT. NOW THE FIRST PERSON YOU SEE IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHEN YOU WALK IN THE DOOR.
SO YOU FIGURE THEY'RE THE RECEPTIONIST AND WHAT ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO EXPECT AS A IGNORANT FIRST TIME PERSON TO THE CITY HALL? SO. YEAH.
RIGHT. THE OTHER THING THAT I MEAN JUST TO KIND OF.
TO ME, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO ADD, SAY, LIKE A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND REORGANIZE THE CURRENT POLICE.
THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO INCLUDE.
THE COURT MAY ALSO PUT BILLING OVER THERE IN THAT BUILDING.
OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD HELP HERE, BUT.
THE POST OFFICE IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
I KNOW THE POST OFFICE IS NOT CITY OWNED, BUT BUT I THINK THAT SPACE WOULD BE LARGE ENOUGH.
IT'S NOT A DISTRICT COURT, IT'S NOT A COUNTY COURT AT ALL.
RIGHT NOW. A CITY LESS THAN 20,000.
EVEN IF WE COME A CITY OF 30,000, WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, RUNNING DOCKETS EVERY DAY.
IT'S JUST JUST DOESN'T I DON'T SEE A FORESEEABILITY FEASIBILITY FOR THAT.
POLICE CHIEF HAS HIS OFFICERS WRITING A WHOLE BUNCH OF TICKETS ALL THE TIME.
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SO IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WAYS TO MOVE STUFF OUT OF HERE.
THAT CAN THAT MAKES SENSE TO MOVE OUT OF HERE.
WELL, UTILITY WATER UTILITY CUSTOMERS, NOT HAPPY ONES.
SO PUTTING THEM BY THE POLICE STATION WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOREVER TO BUILD A COMPLEX LIKE THAT.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN A LOT OF CITIES IS THE COMING BACK OF THE DRIVE THROUGH.
TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO COME INSIDE.
AND TO GET CUSTOMER SERVICE, BUT YOU HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH.
LAKE JACKSON, THE TAX OFFICE HAS THAT AT THE COUNTY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SEEING AS WELL.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT'S PERCOLATING THROUGH OUR BRAIN IS WE LOOK AT RUNNING OUT OF SPACE AND IF AND WHEN WE BUILD A NEW COMPLEX ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN MOVE TO THOSE LOCATIONS THAT WOULD BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY OR BETTER SERVE STAFF, THAT WE CAN TAKE A FUNCTION OUT OF HERE AND TURN THAT OVER INTO JOBS AND.
YEAH, BECAUSE LOOKING AT THIS FACILITY IS LANDLOCKED.
YOU CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE AND YOU CAN'T FOR SURE GO UP, CAN'T GO OUT.
SO EITHER MAXIMIZE WHAT'S HERE AND MOVE OUTWARDS HERE OR FIND SOMETHING IN VERY CLOSE APPROXIMATION TO THIS FACILITY, WHETHER IT'S THERE OR THERE OR THERE OR THERE, YOU GOT TO FIND SOMETHING WHERE IT'S IF YOU NEED TO WALK ACROSS, EXCEPT ON A RAINY DAY TO SNOWY DAY, YOU KNOW, YOU STAYED IN THE BUILDING. BUT YEAH, WE'RE KIND OF STUCK HERE.
THEY'LL HAVE THAT. I'M SURE THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK.
I'M SURE BUILDING SERVICES IS GOING TO NEED ANOTHER ONE OR TWO PERMIT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
THAT'S MORE OFFICE SPACE THAN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE AN ASSISTANT.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED HIM SOMEWHERE, GOING TO NEED HIM SOMEWHERE.
WHETHER THE SOLUTION IS TO MOVE THEM OUT AND MOVE BILLING OUT.
BUT I DO SEE SERVICES HERE GOING ADDING FTES OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
REALLY FUNCTIONALITY AND COORDINATION WISE, THEY OUGHT TO BE WITH PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE MEETINGS WE HAVE ARE I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE COORDINATION PIECE.
AND I KNOW WE CAN DO ALL THAT VIRTUALLY.
BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, AGAIN, OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE SYNERGY LIKE THAT, THEN I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO SIT AND PONDER, AS I HAVEN'T BEEN VERY MOBILE FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT CONCERNING WHAT GOES ON AT CITY HALL AND WHAT CITY GOVERNMENT AND STUFF, THERE'S THERE'S SEVERAL FUNCTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS THAT THE PUBLIC COMES TO.
PRIMARILY. THEY COME TO UTILITY BILLING.
THEY COME TO MS. MCCORD THE PUBLIC THAT ARE IN, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
AND THOSE I WOULD THINK THAT THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
WHICH MAY BE SERVES TWO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
BUT THOSE THOSE DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE KIND OF LOCATED IN A CERTAIN.
GEOGRAPHICAL AREA BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF PARKING FOR THOSE THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN AND GOING OUT UNLESS YOU GO THROUGH A DRIVE THROUGH DEAL LIKE THAT. THEN THE OTHER THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY THAT ARE MORE OF THE BUSINESS DEPARTMENTS THAT DEAL WITH DEVELOPERS COMING IN, THINGS LIKE THIS, LIKE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE DEVELOPMENT. OTIS'S OFFICE OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICES.
THAT'S NOT THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMING IN THERE.
THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING, I NEED TO COME IN AND TRY TO DO SOME BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
SO THOSE FOLKS WOULD BE IN ANOTHER AREA OF THE COMPLEX THAT KIND OF SECLUDED.
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THEN YOU'VE GOT FOLKS THAT REALLY DON'T INTERACT AT ALL WITH THE PUBLIC.AIR IS JUST AND THEY DON'T DEAL WITH JOHN Q PUBLIC THAT WALKS IN, IT PEOPLE DON'T DEAL WITH.
THEY ARE THEIR SERVICE SUPPORT.
KIND OF OWN THEIR OWN LITTLE ISLAND THEMSELVES.
SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THIS IS JUST WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT.
YES, BUT HOW COULD I JUST WANT IT TO BE? I THINK WE'RE ALL IN CONCERT HERE.
THE BE MOST, THE BEST WAY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY COME IN THEY WANT TO KNOW A LOT OF THESE FOLKS ARE COME TO BUILDING THEY'RE NOT HAPPY CAMPERS I KNOW I SAID IN THE OFF IN THE VESTIBULE OUT THERE THE OTHER DAY, I HAD TO GET MY PASSWORD WORKING ON MY COMPUTER AND ONLY WOULD WORK HOOK UP HERE.
AND THE WHOLE TIME I HEARD THE.
THE LADIES DOWN THERE IN UTILITY, JUST BEING AS SWEET AS THEY COULD BE.
THE FOLKS THAT WERE NOT REAL HAPPY.
THEY'D MISSED A PAYMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW.
THEY DO A GREAT JOB THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WANDERED OFF TO THAT, BUT.
THAT'S KIND OF HOW PUBLIC AND IN SORT OF NON PUBLIC AREAS.
PUBLIC AND NON PUBLIC AND THEN THE FOLKS THAT REALLY ONLY INTERACT WITH THE CITY HALL ITSELF.
IN GROUPING LOCATIONS. IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT.
AREAS OF WITHIN THE CITY GOVERNMENT THAT IS GOING TO INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC.
GROUP THOSE IN SIMILAR LOCATIONS AS OPPOSED TO SPREAD OUT.
SO ASSUMING THE COURT STAYED HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD ADVOCATE IF WE COULD FIND THE FLOW IN THE SPACE IS PUT UTILITY BILLING BACK HERE AND THEN LIKE YOU SAID, YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS OR YOUR YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A SUBDIVISION, FOLKS, THEY MAY COME IN ANOTHER DOOR THAT'S AGAIN JUST GOT TO ALIGN TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR YOU KNOW, IN THAT WAY YOU'VE GOT YOUR SERVICE STUFF ALL IN ONE PLACE THAT YOU CAN MANAGE.
YOU HAVE TWO ENTRANCES AND PEOPLE COMING IN NOW RIGHT.
WELL, I MEAN PUBLIC WORKS CAN COME IN FOR THE MEETING.
I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT OTHERS THAT.
ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S.
WE KNOW THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE OUT OF ROOM.
THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. IT'S DIFFICULT.
AGAIN, THINGS LIKE NOT HAVING.
YOU KNOW. I DON'T CALL IT OVERSIGHT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RIGHT WORD IS.
AND THEY'VE GOT SOMEONE THEY CAN'T THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH.
AND SO WHERE'S HAVE WE PROVIDED THAT SUPERVISOR BEING IN THAT LOCATION TO, TO GO AND ASSIST.
RIGHT. AND I JUST WROTE DOWN AN OFFICE WORKFLOW, YOU KNOW, OR PERSONNEL FLOW OR WHATEVER.
SO WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT FOR CITY HALL.
I THINK THE BIGGER PICTURE IS TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGES WE WANT TO DO WITH THE AOC/TACO BUILDING/SERVICE CENTER/WHATEVER.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD, WE'RE GETTING OUR ARCHITECT TO LOOK AT 901 VELASCO AND WHAT THE MINIMUM IS WE NEED TO PUT DOWN THERE FOR CREW MEMBERS AND SUPERVISORS, DIRECT SUPERVISORS AND EQUIPMENT AND MAKE THAT A, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONAL ONLY LOCATION.
SO HE'S GOT MOST OF THAT DATA.
AND SO I GUESS DID I MISS ANY OTHER BUILDINGS? ANY OTHER FEELINGS HURT? WE'RE GOOD.
THE OTHER DISCUSSION IS, IS AGAIN TAKING THE REST OF THE FUNCTIONS.
THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, THE DIRECTORS, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTORS.
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AND MOVING THEM TO A SEPARATE FACILITY THAT WE BUY, RENT, BUILD SOMETHING.AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND AGAIN, I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT CONVERSATION IS.
ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE OTHER CITY FUNCTIONS AND PUT THEM IN THE MIX? AND SO WE TAKE SOMETHING OUT OF CITY HALL THAT WE CAN MOVE OVER THERE.
AND AGAIN, MAYBE IT'S UTILITIES OR MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING SO WE CAN FREE UP SOME MORE SPACE HERE.
AND THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND LOOK AT CITY HALL FUNCTIONALITY AND SAY, HEY, IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS FUNCTIONAL AND THE RIGHT NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND STILL GIVE US THE ROOM TO GROW, WE NEED TO, LIKE CECIL SAID, THE PUBLIC VERSUS THE PRIVATE.
AND HOW DO WE DESIGN THAT TO MAKE THAT ALL WORK? BECAUSE REMEMBER, TWO YEARS AGO, JASON, THERE WASN'T A.
I MEAN, YOU WERE YOU WERE WE MOVED THE DOOR.
YEAH, I WAS IN THE FRONT. YOU WERE IN FRONT.
YOU KNOW, I WAS ON THIS SIDE OF IT.
CLOSE AND PERSONAL WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND.
SO WE MADE THE CHANGES, RIGHT? YEAH. WE JUST AS AN ASIDE, HEAR ME ASK A QUESTION.
WHO? WHO WORKED FOR THE CITY WHEN WE WERE IN THE WHITE BUILDING ON THE CORNER.
ANYBODY IN HERE WORKED AT THE ORIGINAL CITY IN THE ORIGINAL CITY HALL.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DID IT.
YEAH. IT WAS A GODSEND TO GET THE POST OFFICE BUILDING.
OH, FINALLY WE CAN BREATHE, YOU KNOW.
SO AGAIN, LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE, IDEAS, THOUGHTS, DIRECTION ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE SERVICE CENTER FOLKS, WHICH WE CONSIDER THE PARKS FOLKS, THE PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS.
AND I'VE GOT IT'S SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, MY THOUGHT WAS THAT WE WOULD PUT.
THE ENTIRE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOWN THERE.
WE KNOW THEY'RE BEING ONE ON ONE.
DOWN ON SOUTH. LET'S GO FOR SIMPLE TERMS. REFER TO ANOTHER SITE AS BUILDING X.
MEGHAN AND HER IMMEDIATE STAFF WOULD NOT BE PERMANENTLY HOUSED DOWN THERE.
RIGHT. THE WAS IT LIKE THE PARK SUPERINTENDENT AND THAT GROUP OF FOLKS FROM THAT LEVEL DOWN WOULD BE DOWN THERE TO ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS AND THAT PARKS AND REC HAS.
WOULD BE PARKED THERE NIGHTLY, WHATEVER MAINTENANCE THAT THE CITY PULLS. ON VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.
ONCE YOU GOT TO SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD TO SEND OFF TO.
FOREVER. THEN IT GETS SET OFF.
THE MATERIALS THAT PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE USE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE BEST PLACE.
THAT'S KIND OF UP TO THE PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE.
STOCKPILES OF SAND AND GRAVEL AND MILLED ASPHALT AND LEFTOVER PIECES OF PIPE AND STUFF.
SO ALL OF THAT CAN GO OUT TO THE SEWER PLANT? POSSIBLY, BUT. JUST A VERY A GOOD FIND.
A GOOD PLACE FOR THAT. THAT'S YOU GOT.
HOW MANY ACRES DOWN THERE IS THAT? IS IT 75? NO. THE 901 SOUTH VELASCO, SIX POINT SOMETHING.
FOUR AND A HALF ACRES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD SHAPE.
YOU KNOW. IT IT'S LIKE, DON'T MEAN TO SOUND UGLY, BUT THEY'RE LIKE THE LEPER COLONY. WHERE DO YOU PUT 'EM AT? YOU KNOW? THEY ARE.
THEY ARE STRICTLY TO SERVE THE ENTIRE CITY.
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CITY HALL PEOPLE. SO.AND PD, YES. SO, I MEAN, WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS FIRST PLACE FOR THEM? I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS GOT THE MOST SECURE INTERNET FEED THAT THEY NEED TO.
WORK OFF OF. SO, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF HOW I SAW.
ALL THAT HAPPENING DOWN THERE.
WHAT'S THE FIRE STATION? IT'S OFF OF 288 BY HENDERSON? YES. TO ME, THAT WAS ALWAYS SEEMED LIKE BIG BECAUSE OF THE LAND AVAILABLE AROUND IT.
SHE'D BEEN CONSIDERED FOR BOTH.
ADDITIONAL BASE STORAGE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY BECOMING YOUR NUMBER ONE FIRE STATION.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, LOCATION, IT'S RIGHT ON 288.
YOU SHOULD HAVE ACCESS BOTH TO NORTH AND SOUTH.
IT'S PROBABLY AGAIN PUSHING MORE CLOSER AND CLOSER TOWARDS IT'S A LITTLE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, BUT IT'S STILL MORE GEOGRAPHICALLY STARTING TO EBB TOWARDS THE CENTER OF TOWN. IT'S NOT QUITE, BUT IT WILL ALWAYS BE A LITTLE BIT NORTH, BUT IT'S NOT FAR NORTH AS IT ONCE WAS.
AND IT'S NOT FAR WEST AS IT ONCE WAS.
BUT. AND IF YOU WERE TO EVER DO THAT AT THAT TIME.
IN MY MIND BECOMING A CENTRAL LOCATION FOR YOUR EMS, YOUR FIRE.
IT WOULD ALSO BEHOOVE US MAYBE AT THAT TIME TO PUT IT THERE.
I KNOW IT'S OFF THE WALL WITH.
BECAUSE YOU COULD GET IT ELEVATED.
SO YOU'RE IN A STORM, RIGHT? FLOODING, YOU'RE ELEVATED.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO EMERGENCY FIRES OR WHATEVER YOU NEED.
SO THERE'S COMMUNICATION THERE.
AND THEN HAVING IT RIGHT THERE ALSO AS WELL, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE COMMUNICATION COMPONENT.
IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS BECOMES CRUCIAL.
SO. AND THERE'S LAND AVAILABLE.
AND I'VE ALSO I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED.
AND TO ME IT'S STILL FAIRLY CENTRAL IN TOWN.
YOU SAY THEY HAD AN ISO STUDY THAT IDENTIFIED FIRE STATION THREE THAT SHOULD BECOME THE MAIN ONE BASED ON THEIR SERVICE AREA AND WHAT THEY CONTRACT THROUGH THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT. AND I'M SAYING, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, AND THEN WE COULD.
YOU COULD BUILD A FACILITY AROUND IT THAT WOULD HOLD ALL THE WHATEVER, AND THAT THEY'RE ALSO CONSIDERING PUTTING THE NEW BUILDING EITHER THERE OR STATION ONE BUILDING ORIGINALLY WAS GOING TO GO FIRE STATION ONE.
I DON'T THINK THEY MADE A, LIKE FIRM DECISION.
BUT SCOTT'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS GUY.
HE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT. BETWEEN FIRE STATION ONE AND THREE JUST FOR THAT PURPOSE.
YOU GET ADDITIONAL STUFF, YOU GET ADDITIONAL SPACE, YOU CAN EXPAND YOUR OPERATIONS TO THE NORTH.
I MEAN, WITHOUT EVER DOING A STUDY.
THAT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME.
SO. BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO YOU THAT, AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY OF THE LAND AND IF THAT STATION IS GOING TO GROW EVEN MORE BECAUSE NOW IT'S THE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE CENTRAL ONE.
AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO PUT IT IN A FACILITY AND BE A CONDOMINIUM FOR A BETTER WORD, RIGHT BEHIND IT.
SO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH ALL THAT STUFF FURTHER BACK.
BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS FROM THE ROAD.
YEAH, YOU WOULD. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU LOOK AT FOR.
THAT DOESN'T. BUT THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM THAT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
SO MAYBE YOU'RE EXPLAINING SOMETHING TO ME THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
SO TO ME, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT MODEL.
BUT SO I GUESS LET ME I MEAN, FOR A SPITBALL AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU IF I THOUGHT THAT LOCATION, ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION AND THE SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE, LEND YOURSELF TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN DANIELS IS SAYING.
AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, JUST GO ANOTHER STEP.
BUILD YOUR SPACE EXCLUSIVELY FOR IT TO BE PIGGYBACKED OFF THAT AND PERHAPS EVEN AN OFFICE.
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KIND OF LIKE THE WAY THE COUNTY HAS IT, ITS OWN UNIQUE OFFICE.BUT THIS WOULD BE RIGHT THERE WITH LITERALLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE. LIKE A GLEN OR EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT WERE IF IF YOU NEEDED TO GET SOMEWHERE A CITY MANAGER OR MAYOR. I'M JUST THINKING WORST CATASTROPHE.
YOU CAN GO TO AN ELEVATED POINT THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET FLOODED OUT OF.
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE THERE FOR A DAY OR TWO.
IT HASN'T FLOODED THAT WAY SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE.
BUT I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS THE WANT TO.
SO. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO EXPLORE THE IDEA, TO JUST BUILD A SEPARATE BUILDING BACK THERE FOR STORAGE, AND IT, NOT A VERY LARGE BUILDING, BUT SOMETHING SMALL THAT WOULD HOUSE THOSE FOLKS AND AN OPERATIONS CENTER TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
YEAH. I MEAN, DO EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I'M NOT SAYING. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT'S IN THE SAME BOND PACKAGE OR LITERALLY A CONNECTION OFF THE SAME BUILDING, A WING OR SOMETHING OFF OF THAT IS FOR IT.
INFRASTRUCTURE AND PERHAPS A, ALMOST LIKE AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ROOM, QUITE HONESTLY.
IT'S LIKE WE PULL EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO THIS IS OUR LOCKDOWN FACILITY SO THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE THIS HURRICANE THAT'S COMING OUR WAY AND WE'RE GOING TO COORDINATE OUT OF THIS ROOM, THIS IS OUR LOW.
IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY DIRECTLY WORKING WITH US.
BUT SO YOU'RE SO CLOSE PROXIMITY THAT IF SO, YOUR COMMUNICATION LINES ARE STAYING OPEN, WHETHER IT'S TO YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY OR TO STATE OR FEDERAL RESOURCES OR WHATEVER, USE IT.
YOU'RE RIGHT. TO ME, THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
BE NEXT TO THE PERSON WHO'S CONTROLLING THE ABILITY TO GATHER INFORMATION.
SO IT DOESN'T WE DON'T LOSE CONNECTION.
NOW WE KNOW WE'RE RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S JUST AN IDEA THAT I WOULD.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? LET'S GO. YEAH, WE WERE GOT A BUILDING IN SOME FUNNY DAYS.
AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IT, EOC OPERATIONS, POSSIBLY.
YEAH. YEAH. THERE'LL BE MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK.
BUT I'VE SAID THAT THERE ARE BETTER ONES.
THERE'S PEOPLE ON. HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOMEBODY WATCHING.
WHEN WE GET TO AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND WE HAVE TO ENACT OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
LOOPY. WHERE IS THE CITY? EOC DURING AN EMERGENCY SPOT? HERE. THIS IS THE PRIMARY ONE? AND IF IT'S SOMETHING SMALL, THEN WE GO TO THE FIRE STATION.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR JASON, BUT WE LOVED HIM WHEN THEY WERE AT THE PD.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE SERVERS FOR THE CITY ARE HOUSED.
EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS ARE HOUSED IN AN EMERGENCY.
THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE COMING.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE THEM BACK.
IF WE HAD THAT PIECE OF THE BACK, WE MOVE HIM IN.
REMEMBER THAT YOU TALK ABOUT A RECEPTIONIST AT SOME POINT.
BACK TO THE PD FOR JUST A MINUTE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE RECEPTIONISTS AT THE PD.
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AND THEY THINK THEY'RE BEING IGNORED WHEN IN ACTUALITY OR NOT, WE'RE GETTING AN EMERGENCY TAKEN CARE OF, SO.BUT WE'LL TAKE JASON IS IT GROUP AND RECEPTIONIST, PLEASE? THANK YOU. MY PLEASURE.
AND THEY WOULD THEY WOULD PROBABLY FEEL PRETTY SECURE OVER THERE.
SO THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS WE'RE ALLOCATING SPACE AT 901 VELASCO FOR THE SERVICE ORIENTED FOLKS AND THEIR EQUIPMENT. CORRECT.
WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING THE DIRECTORS AND IT AND MAYBE SOME OTHER CITY FUNCTIONS TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE DISCUSSED.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT CECIL WAS TALKING ABOUT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT JOHN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
AND I WAS IN AGREEMENT THAT THE IDEA.
OBVIOUSLY CITY HALL HAS ITS OWN LIMITATIONS.
WHERE DIRECTORS AND HEADS CAN HAVE THEIR OWN OFFICE, THEIR RESOURCES WITH.
NOT JUST THE DIRECTOR, BUT ASSOCIATES AND WHATEVER THEY NEED.
ASSISTANT DIRECTORS AND ASSISTANT DIRECTORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I KNOW THERE ARE LOTS AROUND HERE.
IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD HAVE A CONTIGUOUS LOCATION, BUT IF NOT.
I KNOW MARTHA HAS PRESENTED DIFFERENT OPTIONS AT TIMES IN THIS AREA THAT.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN HINDSIGHT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE EXPLORED, BUT.
AND SO IF THAT OPPORTUNITY WERE TO PRESENT ITSELF AGAIN, I THINK IT WOULD BE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO AT LEAST CONSIDER IT AND.
AND HAVE. YOU KNOW, A CAMPUS STYLE BECAUSE WE ARE A GROWING COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, THERE NEED TO BE OFFICES.
THESE PROFESSIONS, THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DIRECTORS ARE PROFESSIONALS.
I MEAN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LUXURIOUS, OF COURSE, BUT IT SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL OF THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING THERE. SO I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE.
MEANING I'VE GIVEN YOU ALL SOME INFORMATION ABOUT A POTENTIAL LOCATION, POTENTIAL COSTS.
BUT I THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION OR WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUT.
SO IF THAT'S TRULY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT ACTION.
BECAUSE THE CURRENT ECONOMY IS THAT THERE'S.
AND THE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS READY TO MAKE A DEAL.
WELL, DOESN'T HAVE PATIENCE AT ALL.
WELL AND GOOD, BUT IT'S KIND OF WHY.
I DON'T KNOW. I WANTED US TO MAKE AN ACTION PLAN AND HAVE SOMETHING ON PAPER.
BUT IT'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT I WOULD RATHER HAVE.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF WE WANT TO MOVE THAT WAY, WE CAN.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT FEASIBILITY, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AN ACTION PLAN.
AND THAT YOU ALL WOULD THEN COMMIT TO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE LEGALLY CAN DO, BUT I'M OKAY WITH WHAT MARK SAID, AS LONG AS WE CAN PROCEED.
BUT WE CAN DO IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
WELL. SO IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, THEN WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND TALK ABOUT AN ACTION PLAN.
AND REAL PROPERTY. YEAH. FOR REAL? YEP. BUT WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT FEASIBILITY OR IT'S WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO AND IN ACTION.
AND THEN I AND IF I MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK ABOUT AN ACTION PLAN
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FOR REAL PROPERTY.GOOD IDEA. I'LL HOLD MY SECOND.
I'M NOT GOING TO HELP YOU BREAK THE LAW.
I'LL WAIT. SEE, I GET MIXED UP IN THAT MESS.
I JUST GOT TO REMEMBER, WHEN WE GO THERE, IT CAN ONLY BE TO DELIBERATE REAL PROPERTY.
SO I CAN'T GET TO THE NUTS AND BOLTS.
IT'S TO HAVE DIRECTION FOR STAFF.
YEAH. HEY, JUDITH, IT'S CHRIS.
WELCOME TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN ANGLETON, VIRTUALLY.
SO WE'RE HAVING THIS GREAT WORKSHOP, WHICH WE'VE DONE VERY WELL FOR THE LAST HOUR AND A HALF.
WAIT A MINUTE. YOU'RE NOT WATCHING.
OH, JUST KIDDING. AND I THINK THE COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE SOME ACTION AND DELIBERATE ON REAL PROPERTY AND TAKE SOME ACTION ON REAL PROPERTY. SO WE'D LIKE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION SPECIFICALLY JUST TO DO THAT.
OKAY. SO YOU SHOULD HAVE THE FAILSAFE PROVISION IN THE BEGINNING OF YOUR AGENDA THAT SAYS ANY TIME FOR THE FOLLOWING STATUTORY REASONS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADVISE YOU THAT WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER THAT.
OKAY. AND I'M GOING TO BRING MARTHA IN.
I'M GOING TO BRING MICHELLE IN.
AND WE'LL COME BACK OUT AT SOME POINT AND MAYBE HAVE SOME ACTION.
OKAY. SO IF YOU NEED ME, CATCH ME IN, I DOUBT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THAT.
OKAY. [INAUDIBLE]. DO CALL ME BACK.
AND ALSO, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND VOTE ON IT.
ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK JASON MADE A MOTION.
THANK YOU, JUDITH. TRAVIS MADE A MOTION.
I'LL SECOND. AND COUNCILMAN GONGORA DID THE SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
SO I WILL NOW SHOW US GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO GO TO SECTION 551.072 DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY AT 8:03. SO, MR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO INVOLVE MARTHA.
THAT'S GOOD. LUPE, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DRINK COFFEE LATER IF YOU WANT TO.
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? SO I'M GOING TO LET THE REST OF YOU ALL GO.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.