[00:00:01] >> CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. [DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER] WE ARE WITHOUT OUR MAYOR, JASON PEREZ. HE'S ON VACATION. WE WILL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION. COULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND? COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, PLEDGE, PLEASE. >> PRAY WITH ME, PLEASE. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE DAY YOU'VE GIVEN US. WE THANK YOU THAT YOU CARE FOR US, THAT YOU WATCH OVER US, FATHER, AND EVEN THROUGH THE STORM WE SAW TODAY. A LITTLE BIT OF DAMAGE BUT FATHER, THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OVER US AND TAKING CARE OF US. LORD, WE ASK YOU TONIGHT TO GIVE US YOUR GUIDANCE, GIVE US YOUR WISDOM, GIVE US YOUR UNDERSTANDING, AND HELP US ALWAYS, LORD, TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS THAT'LL BE PLEASING TO YOU AND PLEASING TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY THAT WE SERVE. FATHER, LOOK OUT ON OUR AUDIENCE TONIGHT. I CAN SEE THE VAST NUMBER OF VETERANS THAT HAVE COME TONIGHT AND WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU BLESS THEM. WE THANK YOU FOR THEM, THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SO WE CAN HAVE THE FREEDOM TO ASSEMBLE HERE TOGETHER. LORD, WE THANK YOU, WE PRAISE YOU IN CHRIST'S NAME. AMEN. >> AMEN. >> THANK YOU. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. MICHELE, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY SLIPS? MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] ITEM NUMBER 1, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230124-001, TO IMPOSE A PERCENTAGE-BASED COLLECTION PENALTY ON DELINQUENT TAXES AND ASSESSMENTS OWED TO THE CITY AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TO DEFRAY THE COST OF COLLECTIONS. NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE SELECTION OF WIND AND HAIL PROPERTY INSURANCE AS PART OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY INSURANCE PROGRAM FOR A POLICY BEGINNING FEBRUARY 16TH, 2023. ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PRELIMINARY RE-PLAT FOR PT PATRICK THOMAS ESTATE FOR A 7.732-ACRE SUBDIVISION, ONE BLOCK, TWO LOTS, ONE RESERVE, FORMERLY KNOWN AS VERA SUBDIVISION. ITEM NUMBER 4, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230124-004, ESTABLISHING THE PROCEDURE FOR THE MAY 6TH, 2023 GENERAL ELECTION IN ANGLETON, TEXAS, AND PROVIDING FOR OTHER RELATED MATTERS THERE TOO. ITEM NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230124-005, SUPPORTING A HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION FOR THE AMBER RIDGE APARTMENTS LP 114 WOODWAY DRIVE. ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230110-009, ATTACHMENT EXHIBIT B, LAND PLAN UPDATES OF A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT, DISTRICT NUMBER 3, ON AN APPROXIMATE 164.5 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ANCHOR ROAD, COUNTY ROAD 44, APPROXIMATELY 2,000 FT NORTHWEST OF WEST WILKEN STREET. COUNCIL. >> MAYOR PRO TEM, I ASK THAT WE PULL ITEMS 1 AND 3 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> AND TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER? >> AND TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER. >> I'LL SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR APPROVALS WITH THE EXCLUSION OF 1 AND 3. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> [OVERLAPPING] AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN? MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 1. [1. Discussion and possible action on Resolution No. 20230124-001 to impose a percentagebased collection penalty on delinquent taxes and assessments owed to the City and Public Improvement District to defray the cost of collections.] ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> GOOD EVENING. MIKE DARLA WITH PERDUE BRANDON. ITEM 1 IS BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE CREATED THE PIDS, WHEN THOSE GO DELINQUENT, THERE'S A NEED TO COLLECT IT AND UNDER THE PROPERTY TAX CODE, YOU CAN IMPOSE A PENALTY AND SO WE'VE UPDATED THE RESOLUTION TO NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY'S DELINQUENT TAXES BUT FOR THE PID TAXES FOR THIS UPCOMING 2022 YEAR IN ALL SUBSEQUENT YEARS. IT JUST PUTS IT IN LINE WITH THE OTHER PENALTIES THAT ARE ASSESSED AGAINST DELINQUENT PROPERTY OWNERS. >> THIS ONLY APPLIES TO RIVERWOOD RANCH IN CONROE RESERVE IN GRAYSTONE, CURRENTLY? THE ONLY THREE WITH PIDS? >> CORRECT. BUT THE LANGUAGE IN IT WILL ALLOW IT TO GO INTO EFFECT FOR ANY FUTURE PIDS THAT YOU ADOPT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK EVERY TIME AS YOU ADOPT, OR IF YOU BRING INTO EXISTENCE ADDITIONAL PIDS. >> THIS 20 PERCENT IS? >> IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT THAT YOU CHARGE RIGHT NOW TO YOUR DELINQUENT TAXPAYERS FOR PROPERTY TAXES. >> BUT WHO'S THIS 20 PERCENT GOING TO? IS IT GOING TO PERDUE BRANDON? >> IT DOES. >> AS THE COLLECTION EFFORTS? >> YES, SIR. NET RECOVERY TO THE DISTRICT IS YOU'LL GET 100 PERCENT OF YOUR TAXES, [00:05:04] ASSESSMENT PENALTIES, AND INTEREST, AND THEN THAT COLLECTION FEE IS PAID TO MY FIRM AS IF AND WHEN WE COLLECT IT. >> BUT WOULDN'T THAT PID BE GOING STRAIGHT TO THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES? >> THE PID MONEY WILL GO TO WHO'S ENTITLED TO GET IT. >> RIGHT. >> I'M SORRY. YES. >> WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM 20 PERCENT MORE TO PENALIZE THEM FOR NOT PAYING BY THE 30TH, JUST AS WE DO ON PROPERTY TAXES. >> YES, SIR. >> BUT THEN THAT MONEY COMES IN AND THEN IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE DEVELOPER. WHO'S GOING TO GET THAT 20 PERCENT? YOU WILL, RIGHT? >> I WILL. JUST LIKE WE DO IN THE DELINQUENT TAX. IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME CONCEPT AND SO NO COST TO THE PID OR THE CITY FOR OUR SERVICES. WE'RE PAID STRICTLY BY THE DELINQUENT PROPERTY OWNER. >> OKAY. >> MAYOR, PRO TEM, I AM MOVED TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 1. ADOPTING THE ADDITIONAL 20 PERCENT PENALTY FOR DELINQUENT PID ASSESSMENTS AFTER JUNE 30TH OF EACH YEAR. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230124-001. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER THREE, OTIS. [3. Discussion and possible action on a Preliminary Replat for PT Patrick Thomas Estate, for a 7.732 -acre subdivision, 1-Block, 2 Lots, 1 Reserve, formally known as Vera Subdivision.] >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. THIS IS A REQUEST, OF COURSE, FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE PATRICK THOMAS ESTATE, WHICH IS TWO LOTS, ONE RESERVED FOR THAT 7.732 ACRES SUBDIVISION. WE GAVE YOU A COVER MEMO SUMMARIZING SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN YOUR LAST MEETING, IN WHICH THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT AND CLASSIFICATION FOR THE PROPERTY BEING CG, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND I PROVIDED YOU WITH THE EARLIEST I COULD DISCOVER THAT THE PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY COMMERCIAL GENERAL. THEN WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS EVENING WOULD BE JUST THE PLAT FOR THE PROPERTY. >> OKAY. >> I WAS OBVIOUSLY INTRIGUED ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THAT PLANT. YOU'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED I GUESS WHAT YOU COULD ESTABLISH IN YOUR REVIEW OF THE RECORDS. DO WE KNOW HOW IT CAME INTO BEING ZONE THAT WAY OR IS IT ALWAYS BEEN ZONE THAT WAY? >> AS FAR AS WE CAN SEE THAT AREA WAS ANNEXED INTO THE SEA SOME TIME AGO. EXCUSE ME I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MIC BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA AS IT EXTENDED OVER TO BUSINESS 288 WAS EITHER ZONE COMMERCIAL OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THIS SEGMENT OF PROPERTY TRACKS THAT. HISTORICALLY, THERE'S NOT AN ORIGINAL ZONING MAP THAT I'M ABLE TO DISCOVER UNFORTUNATELY, BUT AS FAR AS I CAN TRACK IT, I GAVE YOU THE INFORMATION IN WHICH OUR CONSULTANTS HAVE PROVIDED THOSE ZONING MAPS THAT DATE AS FAR AS THE ONE THAT I HAVE INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE. >> AS FAR AS YOU CAN TELL AN OFFICER LONG BEFORE WE CAME WORKING HERE. DID THEY FOLLOW THE SAME STANDARD PROCEDURES AS WE DO TODAY AS FAR AS STARTING OFF AS A AGRICULTURAL AND THEN TRANSFERRED INTO OR DEVELOPED INTO. >> IT WASN'T A TYPICAL PROCESS OR PROCEDURE IN ANGLETON AS YOU SEE A LOT OF OUTLYING AREAS ARE ZONED, PLAN DISTRICT MADE IT LIKE LEAVES AND EMPTY CANVAS FOR THE APPLICANT TO REALIZE HEY THERE'S NO ORDINANCE ATTACHED FOR A PARTICULAR USE. IT'S JUST ON RESERVE, IT'S CALLED A HOLDING DISTRICT FOR MOST PART, MOST CITIES DO ZONE THAT LAND AGRICULTURE. IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN. >> OKAY. >> BECAUSE I'VE HAD OTHER, I GUESS CITIZENS OF ANGLETON ASK ME ABOUT THAT PROPERTY BEING ZONE TO COMMERCIAL. I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ESTABLISH IS THAT, THAT FAR PRECEDES ANYBODY'S WHO'S SITTING UP ON COUNCIL TODAY'S DECISION TO WHERE IT SITS TODAY. >> CORRECT. >> OTHER THAN MR. PATRICK THOMAS COMING TO THE CITY AS YOU SAW WITH THE REZONING TO SINGLE-FAMILY FOR ONE OF THE LOTS IN WHICH YOU WILL HAVE IS THIS STATE? [00:10:04] >> RIGHT. BUT THAT WAS TO MOVE IT FROM COMMERCIAL INTO RESIDENTIAL FAMILY [OVERLAPPING]. >> RESIDENTIAL FOR THAT PURPOSE. >> FOR THAT SINGLE-PURPOSE? >> YES, SIR. >> THEN, I GUESS JUST AS AN IDEA FOR THE FUTURE, I WOULD LIKE TO PERHAPS HAVE A MEETING ON THIS OR POTENTIALLY ON LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AREAS IN THE TOWN AND SEEING IF WHAT WE THINK THE PASSED ZONING I GUESS MATCHES UP WITH WHERE WE SEE THIS CURRENT CITY GOING. >> UPDATED ZONING MAP? >> AN UPDATED ZONING MAP ESSENTIALLY. LOOK AT POTENTIALLY FINDING POCKETS IN THE CITY THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE AND THE FUTURE LAND USE. BECAUSE I MEAN OBVIOUSLY HAVE CONCERNS OF COMMERCIAL BEING PLACED IN RESIDENTIAL THAT WASN'T PERCEIVED AT THE TIME BUT WE HAVE ALWAYS NEW DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN, AND THEY'RE BUYING UP BIG LOTS OF LAND, AND WHICH IS FINE THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED TO DEVELOP. BUT IT ALSO CREATES UP SOME REALLY UNIQUE PARCELS OF LOTS THAT MAY NOT BE NECESSARILY CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT USE. ANYWAY I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH MY TIME ANYWAY I THINK TO LOOK AT THAT FOR AN UPDATED. >> I WOULD AGREE AND THEN WE CAN FOCUS ALSO ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I WILL SAY THAT STAFF IS WORKING WITH HDR TO UPDATE THE ACTUAL ZONING MAP TO BRING IT UP TO DATE WITH ALL OF YOUR RECENT REZONING. IT'S A MAP THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP CURRENT AND POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND THEN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL WORK ON, ONCE WE GET THAT MAP UPDATED WE'LL WORKSHOP THE CONVERSATION, I THINK THAT YOUR REQUEST. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, THANK YOU. >> YES. >> IT USED TO BE VERY HELPFUL THAT WE HAD THAT ZONING MAPS SITTING RIGHT THERE HANGING SO WE COULD ACTUALLY REFERENCE BACK TO IT. >> WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK ON THAT AND [OVERLAPPING] BLOWN OUT. YES. I ALSO WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. WE DISCUSSED ALSO A POSSIBLE WAVEMENT OF OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN WHICH WOULD WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT AND KEEP THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT 60 FEET, STAFF WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT REQUEST. IF YOU WANT TO WAVE THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION THAT'S FINE. >> [INAUDIBLE] DIDN'T YOU HAVE SOME? >> THAT WAS MY POINT LAST TIME. >> YOU'RE GOOD NOW? >> JUST AS DISCUSSION ITEM. I REALLY THINK THAT POINT ABOUT WIDTHS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY TO BE WHEN YOU ESTABLISH NEW RIGHTS-OF-WAY, OR NEW THOROUGHFARES LIKE TO SAY THROUGH AUSTIN CALLER D, OR ANOTHER PLAN NOT TO GO BACK AND TRY TO FIX SOMETHING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COMPORT WITH THE CURRENT RULES AND REGULATIONS [NOISE]. OTHERWISE IF WE WERE TO HAVE DONE THIS, WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT ON RIVERWOOD RANCH, WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT ON GRAYSTONE, WE WOULD'VE DONE IT ON A LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS DIVIDED LIKE A PINEWAY. JUST OUT THE PINEWAY THAT FRONT ZONE VALDERIS STREET. >> YEAH. >> FOR REALLY NO JUSTIFIABLE REASON OTHER THAN TO SAY WE WIDEN THE STREET. >> YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD BRING THAT THOROUGHFARE PLAN INTO THE WORK SESSION ALSO BECAUSE IT MAY BE OTHER PRESERVED RIGHT AWAY IS THAT WE DO NOT NEED AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL AS WELL. >> YEAH WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT WHERE SOME PLACES IT IS WIDE AS IT'S GOING TO BE, AND WE JUST HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT'S AS GOOD AS IT'S GOING TO GET. THAT'S MAYBE ALL WE NEED AND THEN THERE'S OTHERS THAT WE CAN EXPLORE ACTUALLY LEAVING THE OPPORTUNITY OPEN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPERS. I DON'T WANT TO LOCK SOMEBODY OUT FOR THE FUTURE NOT BEING ABLE TO WIDEN OR MAY NEED IT AS THE CITY GROWS. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE FINAL RE-PLOT SUBJECT TO THE STAFF COMMENTS. >> IT'S PRELIMINARY I'M SORRY. >> I'M SORRY. IT'S PRELIMINARY REPLOT? SUBJECT TO THE STAFF COMMENTS. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY RE-PLOT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> WE ACKNOWLEDGED FUTURE WORKSHOP ON [INAUDIBLE]. >> GOOD. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSING SAY SIGN, MOTION CARRIES. [7. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230124- 007 rezoning 0.4213 acres from Commercial Office-Retail District to C-OR to 2F, TwoFamily Residential District (duplex homes), for property located at 425 N. Walker St. at the SW corner of W. Live Oak St., Tract 163A20 Jose De Jesus Valderas Survey, A-380, City of Angleton, TX, Brazoria County.] [00:15:01] MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS THE NEXT ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 7, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230124-007, REZONING 0.4213 ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL DISTRICT, TO COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL TO 2F TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT DUPLEX HOMES, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 425 NORTH WALKER STREET, AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST LIVE OAK STREET, TRACT 163 A20, JOSE DE JESUS VALDEZ SURVEY A 300 CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS BRAZORIA COUNTY. >> THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A PETITION BEFORE YOU FOR THE NOTE IT CHANGE FROM THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE TO 2F FOR THE DUPLEX REZONING. THIS OF COURSE IS A PUBLIC HEARING, WHERE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT STRUCTURE TO BE CONVERTED TO A DUPLEX. THERE'S A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY. IT WAS REZONED TO THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S ANOTHER ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO FIND BUT I PULLED SOME HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S WENT TO A PREVIOUS OWNER GUTTING THE PROPERTY BASICALLY IN USING ONE SIDE FOR STORAGE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE ACTUALLY IT LOOKS LIKE A DUPLEX BECAUSE IT HAS TWO ENTRANCES AND WHAT HAVE YOU. WHAT WE DID WAS WE LOOKED AT THE AREA ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FOR IT TO BE COMMERCIAL IT DOES LOOK LIKE SPOTS ZONING AND IT DOESN'T FIT THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WITH THE SURROUNDING USES BEING AS YOU SAW IN THE SUMMARY REPORT, THERE IS OF COURSE THE POWER PLANT TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS NOT OUT OF KILTER IN TERMS OF WHAT'S RECOMMENDED FOR THE PROPERTY OWNED. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT IS A MULTI-FAMILY ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT WOULD BE WITHIN THE RECOMMENDATION FOR LAND USES IN THE AREA. WE WEIGH THE CRITERIA FOR THE REZONING AND THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE THIS TO BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF COURSE CONSIDER, ALL THE FINDINGS OF STAFF AND THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING. THE APPLICANTS WHO ARE HERE TODAY, I THINK THEY HAD SOME GRAPHICS AT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND OPENING IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. >> I MAKE THE MOTION OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING. IS ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME. >> HELLO COUNCIL, MY NAME IS COREY MORRIS. I'M THE PROPOSED BUYER OF THE THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN REFERENCE THE POWERPOINT SLIDE HERE. >> OKAY. >> I SHOULD TALK. [NOISE] >> AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S IN PRETTY ROUGH CONDITION OVERALL. WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO BUY IT, DO A FULL REHAB INSIDE AND OUT AND RENT IT OUT. THAT'S ALL. >> THAT'S IT. [LAUGHTER] I TAKE IT YOU'RE FOURTH? >> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] I'M FOUR. SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> YOU'RE GOOD. >> NO WORRIES. THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. ONE MORE TIME, ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM. COUNCIL. >> I MAKE A MOTION, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND COUNCILS FOR US TO TAKE ACTION. >> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT. [00:20:02] JUST I DID CATCH THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF LADIES WHO SPOKE PASSIONATELY AGAINST THIS. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW IT, BUT THEY HAD CONCERNS, BASICALLY, BLIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THIS WILL BE UTILIZED TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT COMMUNITY. BUT THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, I THINK VOTING ANONYMOUSLY IN FOR IT, SO THEY LISTENED TO THEM CAME TO THAT DECISION. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. CORY CAN COME BACK OVER HERE. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SORRY IN PUBLIC HEARING I HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU AND THEN LET EVERYBODY SPEAK BUT ADDRESS YOU OUTSIDE OF PUBLIC HEARING. >> YES, SIR. >> IN THIS ITEM, HAVE YOU EVER DONE ONE OF THESE BEFORE? >> THIS WILL BE MY SECOND ONE. >> SECOND? >> YES, SIR. I WILL BE THE LANDLORD, I GUESS YOU'D CALL IT SO I'LL BE RUNNING BACKGROUND CHECKS, CREDIT CHECKS. I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS. >> THEN YOU HAVE PLANS WITH THE HOUSE AND REMODELING THAT. DO YOU PLAN TO FIX THE OUTSIDE STRUCTURE AS WELL, JUST THE PARKING AREA FOR THE DUPLEX AND ALL THAT? >> YES. IT WAS REQUIRED THAT THERE WE CEMENT AS WELL. THAT IS CORRECT. >> YOU'RE GOING TO DO LANDSCAPING AND SUCH? >> CORRECT. >> WHERE'S YOUR OTHER LOCATION THAT YOU'VE DONE THIS? >> FREEPORT? >> FREEPORT. DO YOU ALREADY HAVE TENANTS FOR THIS? >> NO, SIR. >> HOW LONG WOULD YOU THINK IT TAKE YOU TO COMPLETE A PROJECT LIKE THIS? >> 3-6 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON PERMITS. THE PERMITS IS GOING TO BE THE BIG CONCERN, BUT I THINK THE CITY IS ACTUALLY PRETTY LAID BACK. >> BILLING SERVICES WILL APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT. [LAUGHTER] >> COMPARED TO OTHER AREAS. >> WE TALKED ABOUT KYLE. >> [OVERLAPPING] MY CONTRACTORS SAID ANGLETON IS PRETTY LAID BACK. >> I THINK THE WORD IS USER-FRIENDLY. [LAUGHTER] >> YEAH, THERE YOU GO. >> AS LONG AS I SAID WITH POSITIVE. >> YOU SHOULD HEAR HOW THEY TALK ABOUT LIKE CHEMO OR LIKE. >> GREAT. >> OR LIKE JACKSON. >> NOT SO MANY QUESTIONS WHILE HE'S AT THE PODIUM. >> I TOO WATCH THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND WITNESSED THE TWO LADIES WITH THEIR CONCERNS, BUT I THINK THIS WILL ACTUALLY HELP. RIGHT NOW IT'S A HUGE. IT'S AN EYESORE AND IT'S A DANGER RIGHT NOW. IT'S AN UNSECURED ABANDONED STRUCTURE. I THINK THIS WILL BE GOOD. THEN THEY CAN WALK THEM TO NEW FAMILIES TO THE AREA. >> ANYBODY WHO SPEAKS OUT ON FOR OR AGAINST IT, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE LISTENING SO IT'S NOTHING AGAINST YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE DO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL. >> YEAH, CORRECT. WE WERE HERE AS WELL. WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, BUT LIKE I SAID, I WAS LIKE, I'M NOT GOING TO TOLERATE ANY RIFFRAFF. THAT WAS MY COMMENT TO THEM. >> YOU HAVE A STRUCTURE, YOU HAVE A PROPERTY TO PROTECT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YEAH. >> I LIVE NEARBY AS WELL. >> GOOD. >> YOU'RE AN ANGLETON RESIDENT TOO? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> GREAT. COUNCIL. >> BLESS YOU. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ANGORA TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230124-007 REZONE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD LUCK. >> ITEM NUMBER 8, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION OF [8. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230124- 008 rezoning approximately 10.12 acres from the Planned Development District (PD) to Agricultural District (AG), for property located on the east side of the Shanks Road extension, north of CR220, Angleton, TX, Brazoria County.] POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230124-008, REZONING APPROXIMATELY 10.12 ACRES FROM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SHANKS ROAD EXTENSION, NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 220 ANGLETON, TEXAS BRAZORIA COUNTY. >> THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL. THIS ITEM, AS YOU NOTED, 10.12 ACRES IS AT THE, LET'S SAY THE EXTINCTION OF SHANKS ROAD AS YOU FAMILIAR WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND THIS PROPERTY RESULTED IN ONE LARGE TRACK BEING SPLIT. [00:25:03] THIS IS THE EASTERN PROPERTY WHICH WAS SOLD AND IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR AN AGRICULTURE USE ACTUALLY. IT'S ON OUR BOUNDARIES AND I GAVE YOU THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY BEING OF COURSE, IN THE HOLDING DISTRICT PD WITH NO ORDINANCE ATTACHED. IT WAS NOT SELLING ORIGINALLY TO THE AG DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING JUST TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY AS AN ESTATE. IT CURRENTLY IS BORDERING MOBILE HOMES TO THE NORTH. ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PROPERTY WOULD BE MOBILE HOMES. STAFF WEIGH THE CRITERIA FOR THE REZONING AND AS YOU SEE THE FINDINGS OF FACT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO HAS FORWARDED THIS TO YOU AS ANONYMOUS VOTE OF 7-0 FOR OUR APPROVAL FOR THE DISTRICT BEING CHANGED TO AG FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE ESTATE, AND THEY WANT TO BE ALLOWED TO SHOW SMALL FARM ANIMALS WITH THE CHILDREN. THIS, IN TERMS OF INTENSITY, STAFF FELT THAT IT WAS IN THE SPIRIT AND THE INTENT OF THE COMP PLAN AND RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVALS. WE CAN CONSIDER THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. >> COUNCIL. >> I MAKE A MOTION THOUGH IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. MARK. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ANGORA TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME. RODERICK. >> MY NAME IS RODERICK WILLIAMS. THAT'S GOING TO BE, HOPEFULLY MY PIECE OF HEAVEN BUT WE'LL SEE. BUT MOSTLY IT'S JUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH MY KIDS, MY FAMILY. MAYBE DO HAVE A PLACE FOR TO DO SOME COOK OUTS AND STUFF BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JUST SO HOPEFULLY MY PIECE OF HEAVEN. [LAUGHTER] BUT I'M FOR IT. [LAUGHTER]. >> THANK YOU, RODERICK. >> IT'S HARD TO TELL THAT. >> ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. ONE LAST TIME. COUNCIL. >> MAKE A MOTION CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE MOTION CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ANGORA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. ITS RARE RODERICK THAT WE EVER SEE SOMEBODY COME AND ASKED TO GO BACK TO AG. WHEN I FIRST READ THIS, I GUESS IT WAS SATURDAY, I WAS CONFUSED AND I WAS LIKE REALLY? >> [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]. >> WE WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER. I REMEMBER. [LAUGHTER] >> MAYOR PRO TEMP WRIGHT, IF I MIGHT BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AFTER POSTING THE AGENDA WE NOTICED JUST SMALL TYPOS IN THE ORDINANCE AND I CAN PASS THIS OVER TO THE CITY SECRETARY, BUT NOTABLY AS LISTED ON THE AGENDA TITLE, WHICH IS CORRECT, THAT'S EAST SIDE OF SHANKS ROAD AND IN THE ORDINANCE MY APOLOGY WAS A WEST SIDE NOTATION OF SHANKS ROAD. WE CORRECTED THOSE AND THEN THE DISTRICT BEING ZONE 2 IS THE AG DISTRICT. THOSE ARE JUST SOME SMALL TYPOS BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT'S UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER. >> I THINK IF YOU'RE WANTING TO GO BACK TO AG, THERE SHOULD NEVER BE A PROBLEM WITH THAT TO ME. >> I WON'T OBJECT. [LAUGHTER] >> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS. CAN SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REZONING THE DISTRICT FROM A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT FOR THE LOCATION AS CORRECTED. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND FOR APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230124-008 ON THIS REZONE AND I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE [OVERLAPPING]. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. GREAT. >> THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] >> GOOD LUCK, RODERICK. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. [9. Discussion and possible action on approving the Brazoria County Veteran Association to hold the 25th Annual Veteran Day parade in Angleton on November 11, 2023, and to allow representative(s) from Council and staff.] >> ITEM NUMBER 9, I SAID AN HOUR SO I WAS PRETTY CLOSE. ONLY 30 MINUTES. [00:30:01] DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVING THE BRAZORIA COUNTY VETERANS ASSOCIATION TO HOLD THE 25TH ANNUAL VETERAN DAY PARADE IN ANGLETON ON NOVEMBER 11TH, 2023, AND ALLOW REPRESENTATIVES FROM COUNCIL AND STAFF. WHO WANTS TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE? JOSHUA [OVERLAPPING]. >> YOU GOT 20 SPEAKERS GOING UP. [LAUGHTER] >> IT'S ALL RIGHT. >> [LAUGHTER] SAFETY IN NUMBERS. >> YEAH. I WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING US TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS JOHN HUSTLE AND I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF THE [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY VETERANS ASSOCIATION FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. I'M STILL WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO STEP UP, BUT SO FAR NOBODY HAS. BUT ANYWAY, I HAVE HERE THE GENTLEMAN AND THE LADIES BEHIND ME ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS OF VETERANS HERE IN ANGLETON. WE HAD MERITH WITH PURPLE HEART. WE'VE GOT GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER, AMERICAN LEGION POSTS 835, AMERICAN LEGION POST 241, AND WE ALSO HAVE MARINE DETACHMENT, WHICH IS 985, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE MISSOURI COUNTY COMBINE HONOR GUARD IS PART OF THIS ASSOCIATION AND THE DIV CHAPTER 39 DISABLED VETERANS THAT ALL IN ANGLETON. THIS IS A GROUP OF VETERANS THAT WILL BE HERE HOSTING THE VETERAN'S DAY PARADE IF WE GET APPROVED WITH YOU GUYS. IF APPROVED, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE TO BE PART OF THE HOST COMMITTEE, REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, ONE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ONE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ONE FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND ONE FROM CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE COMMUNITY. THESE INDIVIDUALS, COMBINED WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ANGLETON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE WHAT WE CALL THE HOST COMMITTEE. THERE WILL BE DOING ALL THE PAPERWORK BEHIND THE SCENE. I WAS ASKED BY THE CITY SECRETARY IF I COULD PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER SO I WENT BACK IN 2010, THERE SHOULD BE A COPY I DROPPED OFF. THAT IS WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME IT WAS HOSTED HERE AND ANGLETON. IT WAS IN 2010. IT'S GOING TO BE 13 YEARS THE LAST TIME WE HAD THE VETERAN'S DAY PARADE HERE IN ANGLETON, WE HAD A NICE VETERANS DAY PARADE. IT TURNED OUT REAL SUCCESSFUL. WE DECIDED TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN CEDAR STREET, ALL THE WAY TO DOWN IN TURN LEFT FROM DOWN THE STREET ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. AT THAT YEAR, WE HAD FOUR EVENTS THAT WERE DONE. ONE WAS THE BREAKFAST, ONE WAS THE CEREMONY IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE IN THE PARADE, AND THEN WE HAD THE PROGRAM AT THE STADIUM. THAT'S WHY IT TAKES SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE STARTED SO EARLY. BECAUSE I CANNOT APPROACH THE SCHOOL BOARD WITHOUT HAVING APPROVAL FROM THE CITY. I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK PROBABLY AROUND JULY AND GET THE CITY COUNCIL AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW FAR WE'VE GOTTEN, AND KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP. NOW WHERE WE CAN LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK ME OR ANY OF THE MEMBERS BEHIND ME, WE'RE FREE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. >> I'M GOING TO NOMINATE LOOPY FOR THE LEAD STAFF MEMBERS. THEN FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAS ALREADY SIGNED ON TO HELP OUT AND MAKE THEM SIGNED ON TO HELP OUT. >> WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THE CITIES IN THE COUNTY THAT SEND REPRESENTATIVES TO HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES THAT COME IN FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FROM ALL THE TOWNS IN THE COUNTY. WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE LAST 24 YEARS. EVERYBODY HELPS, EVERYBODY. BRINGS US ALL TOGETHER. >> GREAT. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. >> OKAY. >> ARE YOU STILL WANTING TO DO FOUR PARTS LIKE YOU DID THIS IN 2010. >> [OVERLAPPING] RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY I THINK WE PROBABLY DO JUST THREE PARTS BECAUSE THE CEREMONY THAT WE DID IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE, WE ALREADY DID THAT. WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT BREAKFAST RIGHT NOW. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO APPROACH 241, BUT IT SAYS WE HAVE BREAKFAST AT THE SWEENEY VFW POST LAST YEAR AND IT TURNED OUT REALLY GOOD AND I WAS HOPING MAYBE I COULD TALK THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE 241 TO HOST IT AT THE AMERICAN LEGION HERE AND ANGLETON. [00:35:05] BUT THAT'S STILL UP. I CAN'T SAY YES OR NO ON THAT BECAUSE I HAVE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT FIRST. BUT WE DO WANT TO HAVE THE PARADE AND WE DO WANT TO HAVE THE PROGRAM. >> DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE SAME ROUTE AS YOU DID? >> THE SAME ROUTE THAT WE DID LAST TIME IN 20TH 2010, WHICH WILL BE DOWN, WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON WITH THE BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING, WE WERE HOPING TO USE THE ANNEX BUILDING PARKING LOT. THE NEW PARKING LOT THAT THEY MADE BEHIND IT AND IF WE HAVE TURNED OUT LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME, WE'LL PROBABLY TRY TO USE THE PARKING LOT IN THE GAZEBO AREA. TO KEEP EVERYTHING LINED UP OVER HERE AND THEN WE WOULD GO STRAIGHT DOWN CEDAR STREET. >> THIS ONE WAS ON A THURSDAY DURING SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL WAS INVOLVED. YOU'VE HAD THEM ALL ON SATURDAYS. WHICH ONE WAS BETTER FOR YOU? >> RIGHT NOW WE'VE HAD THEM AT ALL. BECAUSE WE DON'T EVER CHANGE THE DATE, NOVEMBER 11TH THAT WE HAVE IT ON A SUNDAY. IN FACT, WHEN WE HAD IT ON A SUNDAY, WE STARTED AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING, BACK IT UP BECAUSE PEOPLE GO TO CHURCH. ON SATURDAY WE'VE DONE IT AT 11:00 IN THE MORNING. WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE WHEN WE SET UP THIS ORGANIZATION. WE'VE MADE A DECISION TO TAKE IT AROUND THE COUNTY. EVERY TOWN IN THE COUNTY HAS HOSTED THE PARADE. WE HAD SWEENEY LAST YEAR BEFORE THEN IT WAS FREEPORT. BEFORE THEN IT WAS A MISSOURI, WEST COLUMBIA, DAYMOND, CHARLES CREEP, [INAUDIBLE], BLAKE JACKSON, DENVER, ANGLETON, ALVIN. SEE WHAT EVERYBODY HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HOST THEMSELVES SO THEY KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. >> YOU HAVE IT ON VETERANS DAY NO MATTER WHICH JUST NOVEMBER 11TH. >> YEAH. >> THIS TIME IT FALLS ON A SATURDAY. WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR TURNOUT IS GOING TO BE? WHERE THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM TAKING THIS ROUTE. >> WELL, I'VE TALKED TO THE VETERANS IN THE PAST ABOUT SAY IF IT RAIN, AND THEIR RESPONSE TO ME WAS THAT IT RAINED WHEN THEY WERE IN THE FOXHOLE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THEY RAINED AND THEY DIDN'T STOP THE WAR. THEY STILL SERVED THEIR COUNTRY SO A LITTLE RAIN AIN'T GOING TO HURT THEM, THAT'S WHY IT RAIN OR SHINE IT GOES ON. NOW AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT THE SCHOOL HAS GONE ALONG WITH US. THEY ALSO PERFORMED ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. >> GREAT. >> I THINK AT LAST YEAR'S PARADE, WE HAD FOUR BANDS. WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING AT LEAST FOUR BANDS IN EVERY EVENT. >> I DO REMEMBER THIS ONE IN 2010 AND IT WAS A GREAT DAY. I THINK ANGLETON REALLY PUT THEMSELVES OUT FRONT ON THAT ONE. >> YEAH, I HOPE MORE BANDS JOIN, HONESTLY. MAYBE A SATURDAY, MAYBE THAT HELPS. I KNOW SOMETIMES WITH UIL COMPETITION, BUT HOPEFULLY BEING A SATURDAY THEY [OVERLAPPING]. >> YEAH. I KNOW I'VE HAD TO PERSONALLY HAVE HAD TO GO IN AND TALK TO ALL THE SUPERINTENDENTS IN THE COUNTY WHEN THEIR BANDS DON'T SHOW UP. THE REASON I DO THAT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M MAD AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS BECAUSE THE VETERANS FROM THAT TOWN WANT TO KNOW WHY THEIR BAND IS NOT THERE. I JUST TELL HIM, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT SAID. I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. BUT THE VETERANS DO REMEMBER. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR TOWN IS HOSTING IT. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE BANDS HAVE UIL CONTESTS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE UIL CONTENT. SURE, YOU KNOW. AND A LOT OF THE VETERANS, THEY NOTICED THAT AND I'VE HEARD A NEAR FULL OF IT. I SAID, I DON'T MAKE THE RULES FOR THE SCHOOL. EACH SCHOOL COMES VOLUNTARILY. WE'RE NOT IN IT TO MAKE MONEY. IT'S NOT ABOUT MAKING MONEY AND WE DON'T ASK FOR NO MONEY. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS DONATED. IN THE LAST 24 YEARS EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONATED. RUN THE [INAUDIBLE] CANS TO THE HOT DOGS, TO THE WATER, BOTTLED WATER THAT WE HAND OUT TO EVERYBODY. THE BREAKFAST THAT WE DO IN THE MORNING FOR VETERANS, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING BETWEEN 250-300 VETERANS EARLY IN THE MORNING BEFORE THE PARADE THAT WE SERVE BREAKFAST FOR. THE PROGRAM IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THERE'S NO CHARGE, NO NOTHING. IT'S EVERYTHING FREE. WE JUST SAY, HEY, THIS IS ONE DAY THAT WE'RE ALLOWING THE CITIZENS [00:40:03] OF ANGLETON TO HONOR THEIR VETERANS HERE FREE OF CHARGE. COME OUT AND CELEBRATE WITH THEM BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE GUYS ARE HAPPY JUST TO BE HOME. I'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT I'VE MET MORE GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN BACK FROM SERVICE. THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY LIVE SO CLOSE TO SOME OF THE GUYS THAT WERE IN THE MILITARY UNTIL THEY COME TO THE VETERANS DAY, AND THEY SEE EACH OTHER AND THEN IT'S LIKE A REUNION. BECAUSE A LOT OF GUYS FROM EXPERIENCE AFTER YOU SERVE AS HE CAME BACK AND YOU JUST HID. YOU JUST TRY TO BLEND IN WITH SOCIETY AND DON'T EVEN WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. BUT WHEN THEY GET TOGETHER WITH THESE GUYS VICE VERSA, IT OPENS UP. IT HELPS TO THE HEALING PROCESS THAT A LOT OF GUYS NEED. THAT'S WHY WE DO IT. >> ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> CHRIS DID WE NEED A COUNCIL MEMBER VOLUNTEER ALSO? >> NOW THE HOST COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE FORM IS GOING TO BE HELD ON THE 2ND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT SIX O'CLOCK FOR ONE HOUR AND THAT'S IT. ONE HOUR EACH MONTH. >> COUNCIL MEMBER. >> HAPPY TO DO IT. EVEN IF I DON'T GET ELECTED. [LAUGHTER] >> THE HOST COMMITTEE IS ALSO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SIT IN AND WATCH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND VOLUNTEER, THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN. WE DON'T SAY NO TO NOBODY. IN FACT, WE ARE VETERANS DAY PARADE HAS GROWN SO MUCH THAT WE GOT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM GALVESTON AND MATAGORDA COUNTY JUST TO BE IN THE PARADE INSTEAD OF GOING TO HOUSTON. >> GREAT. COUNCIL, I HAVE A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ANGLETON HOSTING THE 25TH ANNUAL VETERANS DAY PARADE. WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO DO THAT. [OVERLAPPING] CECIL BOOTH WILL BE THE COUNCIL LIAISON FOR THE MEETING THAT ARE HANDLED, I GUESS ON THE SECOND TUESDAY AT 6TH. [OVERLAPPING] SECOND WEDNESDAY, THEY'LL BE AT THE MEETING. >> FOR 1 HOUR. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND AND A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL. DANIELS? >> DANIEL. >> I SAID IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, THINKING TO APPROVE THE ANGLETON HOSTING THE VETERAN'S DAY ASSOCIATION PARADE ON THE 11TH OF NOVEMBER 2023. APPOINTING COUNCIL MEMBER BOOTH AS THE LEAD COUNCIL LIAISON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> WHEN IS THE FIRST ORGANIZATION MEETING? WHAT MONTH IS IT GOING TO BE IN? >> THE FIRST MEETING WILL PROBABLY BE IN MARCH. >> MARCH. >> MARCH, THE SECOND WEDNESDAY IN MARCH ABOUT 6 O'CLOCK. >> WE'LL KEEP YOU INFORMED. >> ALL RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] >> I' DOING OKAY. >> COUNSEL. >> HE'S GOT ME ON SPEED DIAL. >> COUNCIL, CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HOSTING. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> I'M GOING TO ITEM NUMBER 10, [10. Discussion and possible action on the Multimodal Pathway grant project, presentation given by Texas Department of Transportation representatives (TxDOT).] DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MULTIMODAL PATHWAY GRANT PROJECT PRESENTATION GIVEN BY TXDOT REPRESENTATIVES. >> I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ON THERE. >> PLEASE HOLD. >> YEAH, I'M. [LAUGHTER] >> THE LAST TIME THIS GRANT APPLICATION WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COUNCIL, THE STAFF WAS INSTRUCTED TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF TXDOT WAIVING THE CITIES 20 PERCENT MATCH. WE MET WITH THEM AND THE CITY DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR THE MATCH TO BE WAIVED. HOWEVER, TXDOT'S HOUSTON OFF DISTRICT HAS BEEN DISCUSSING INTERNALLY THAT DISTRICT FUNDING THE MATCH. THEREFORE, I'D LIKE TO ALLOW MARIA APONTE AND ANNA RAMIREZ HERETTA TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE GRANT AND THE APPLICATION PROCESS. >> THANK YOU, PHIL. >> THANK YOU. >> HI. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARIA APONTE AND [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEER FOR TXDOT. [00:45:04] I'M HERE WITH ANNA RAMIREZ, WHO IS A PLANNER FOR TXDOT, HAS BEEN A PLANNER FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS. PART OF HER DUTIES, SHE HAS MET WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WITH THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO DISCUSS VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES. TODAY, SHE'LL BE PRESENTING AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. BUT BEFORE WE GO TO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO TAKE A SAFETY MOMENT. TXDOT HAS PARTNERED WITH OTHER STATE AGENCY ON A PROGRAM THAT IS CALLED ON THE ROAD TO END HUMAN TRAFFICKING. WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON TXDOT.GOV WEBSITE. THERE'S ALSO A WEBSITE I WATCHED THE X.ORG. WHAT WE WANT IS ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUAL THAT IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE REPORTED, TO GO TO THESE WEBSITES AND REPORT IT BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN DO A LITTLE BIT TO END THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY? WITH THAT, I LEAVE YOU WITH MS ANNA RAMIREZ. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> HI. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES CALL FOR PROJECTS. I'M THE TA COORDINATOR FOR A SIX COUNTY REGION HERE, SO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT. I SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES HERE. WE HAD AN IN-PERSON WORKSHOP THAT WAS HOSTED IN LAKE CITY. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL AND TALK ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. I COLOR-CODED SOME OF THE SLIDES SO THAT YOU-ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO HONE IN ON WHAT THE ITEMS OF INTEREST ARE. LET ME JUST START BY SAYING THAT THIS YEAR WE HAVE A LOT OF FEDERAL FUNDING COMING IN, A LOT. WE HOPE TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE FEDERAL FUNDINGS STAY HERE IN OUR REGION FOR OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. JUST AS A REFERENCE POINT IN THE LAST CALL FOR PROJECTS, WE ONLY HAD BASICALLY $33 MILLION. IF YOU CAN SEE AT THE ANTICIPATED 2023 PROGRAM FUNDING, IF YOU ADD ALL THE ITEMS RIGHT THERE, WE'RE BASICALLY ABOUT $250 MILLION. AGAIN, WE HAD $36 MILLION LAST TIME AND NOW WE HAVE $250 MILLION, SO WE'RE REALLY HOPING TO SPREAD THAT AND KEEP SOME OF THAT HERE IN BRAZORIA, OF COURSE, AND IN THE OTHER COUNTIES HERE IN THE DISTRICT. IF WE CAN JUST STAY IN THE LAST ONE. THE TWO IMPORTANT THINGS TO CONSIDER IS THAT BY POPULATION SIZE IS THE CATEGORIES OF FUNDING THAT ANGLETON COULD APPLY. BASED ON POPULATION, IF YOU SEE THAT SECOND COLUMN RIGHT THERE, ANGLETON WOULD FALL WITHIN THIS SMALL URBAN AREAS WITH THAT POPULATION THRESHOLD. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THAT'D BE THAT BLUE BOX THERE, SO ANGLETON WOULD BE ABLE TO SUBMIT FOR THE $15 MILLION. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT FOR THAT $201 MILLION, AND THAT'S THAT A RED BOX THAT YOU SEE THERE. THAT'S A NEW CATEGORY OF FUNDING, COMPLETELY NEW. AND IT'S CALLED THE ANY AREA FUND, MEANING ALL CITIES CAN APPLY. NOW, THIS IS A GAME CHANGER REALLY FOR THIS FUNDING. JUST AS A QUICK OVERVIEW, THIS IS TA FUNDING, WHICH IS TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES. THAT MEANS THAT THIS FUNDING DOES NOT GO FOR ROADWAYS. THE ONLY THING THIS CATEGORY OF FUNDING CAN FUND IS SIDEWALKS AND SIDE PATHS. SIDE PATHS IS JUST TWO SIDEWALKS TOGETHER WHERE YOU COULD HAVE TWO FOLKS, THREE FOLKS WALKING SIDE-BY-SIDE OR SOME PEOPLE WALKING, SOME OTHER FOLKS BIKING. THIS IS THE FUNDING ZONE. THIS IS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND FOR BICYCLISTS. >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. >> THIS IS AN INTERESTING SLIDE. IT HAS A LOT. I'M GOING TO FOCUS AGAIN ON WHAT I WAS MENTIONING. THE BLUE BOX HERE CORRESPONDS TO THE BLUE BOX THAT I HAD SHOWN YOU GUYS IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. THAT MEANS THAT THE COMMUNITY-BASED INFRASTRUCTURE CATEGORY IS FOR ANGLETON WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR IT AND THE PROJECT SIZE IN TERMS OF COST, WOULD HAVE TO GO FROM $250 MILLION TO FIVE MILLION DOLLARS PER PROJECT. NOW, THE ONE WHERE WE SAW THAT WE HAD THE $201 MILLION IS THE RED ONE. FOR THE RED ONE, THERE'S THREE POTS OF MONEY, THE LARGE SCALE, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, [00:50:03] AND THE NETWORK ENHANCEMENT, WHICH IS THE MIDDLE COLUMN RIGHT THERE IN THE RED BOX, AND THEN THE NON INFRASTRUCTURE. THE KEY COMPONENT IS THAT THE ELIGIBLE AREAS ARE ANY AREA WITH ANY POPULATION SIZE AND THE LARGE SCALE PROJECTS ARE A MINIMUM OF FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME. WE'VE NEVER FUNDED MINIMUM FIVE MILLION DOLLARS SIDEWALKS OR SIDE PATH PROJECTS. THIS IS REALLY UNPRECEDENTED. NOT ONLY THAT, SO MUCH MONEY IS COMING THAT REALLY THE IDEA IS TO THINK ABOUT A MINIMUM OF FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, BUT UP TO $25 MILLION PER PROJECT. REALLY THE STATE NEEDS TO SPEND THE MONEY AND NEED TO FIND REALLY GOOD PROJECTS THAT ARE ABLE TO MEET THE NEED OF THE COMMUNITIES. THE NETWORK ENHANCEMENT, THOSE ARE SMALLER PROJECTS. WE HAVE A MINIMUM COST OF THE PROJECT OF $250,000. BUT THE KEY IF YOU GO STRAIGHT TO THE BOTTOM BOX RIGHT THERE UNDER NETWORK ENHANCEMENTS, IS THAT IT HAS TO BE A QUICK CONSTRUCTION. THINGS TO THINK ABOUT ARE LITTLE OR NO DESIGN. MEANING YOU ALREADY WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE YOUR PLANS READY TO GO AND NO RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION. THAT'S HARDER. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. WHAT THE ANY POPULATION AREA WITH MINIMUM FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED. YOU CAN, THAT'S GREAT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. ALL OF THIS FUNDING. NOW THAT THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, WHEN IS IT GOING TO ACTUALLY BE LEAD? WHEN WILL WE SEE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ACTUAL PROJECTS? THAT WOULD BE FISCAL YEAR '25, '26 AND '27. IN OUR WORLD, THAT IS PRETTY FAST [LAUGHTER] IT MIGHT NOT SEEM SO, BUT IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO GET PROJECTS READY TO START CONSTRUCTION AND BREAK GROUND. WITH THAT, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. JUST AS AN FYI IN CASE YOU GUYS AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE SHARED USE PATH IS THE TOP LEFT BOX, IT'S A WIDER PATH, 10 FOOT, EIGHT FEET, SOMETHING A BIT MORE COMFORTABLE. IT ALSO FUNDS SIGNALS, CROSSWALKS, PEGGED BUTTONS, AND AS WELL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CYCLISTS. NEXT ONE. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, THE FIRST TAKEAWAY HERE IS JUST IF WE COULD JUST FOCUS ON THE TWO FIRST ORANGE BOXES. THE FIRST ONE IS WHAT DOES IT REQUIRE IN TERMS OF ELIGIBILITY? THIS HAS TO BE FOR TRANSPORTATION, PRINCIPALLY FOR TRANSPORTATION RATHER THAN RECREATION. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'RE THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THAT'S WHAT WE DO, THAT'S WHAT'S BEING FUNDED TRANSPORTATION. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS FACILITIES CANNOT BE ALSO USED FOR RECREATION, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE TRANSPORTATION FIRST AND FOREMOST,. THE SECOND BOX THERE TALKS ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR TEXAS SAFETY IS FIRST, SO WE NEED TO BUILD WITH THIS FUNDS, THE OBJECTIVE IS TO BUILD SAFE, CONNECTED [NOISE] ACCESSIBLE, PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE NETWORKS. NEXT ONE. THIS IS A QUICK TIMELINE OF THE CALL FOR PROJECTS. THE CALL STARTED LAST YEAR IN THE FALL AND I WANT TO FIRST HIGHLIGHT THE LITTLE STAR THAT I MARKED THERE FOR YOU ALL CALLED THE DETAILED APPLICATION DEADLINE. THAT'S JUNE 5TH AND THAT'S WHERE THE APPLICATION IS DUE. HOWEVER, WITH THE ARROW, THE RED ARROW, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A PRE-APPLICATION THAT IS DUE THIS FRIDAY, WHICH IS JANUARY 27TH. THE PRE-APPLICATION IS A THREE-PAGE DOCUMENT THAT THERE'S ALREADY A DRAFT THAT CITY OF ANGLETON STAFF HAS ALREADY PREPARED. THIS THREE-PAGE DOCUMENT IS REALLY MORE LIKE AN INTENT TO APPLY IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL APPLICATION AND HAS NO COMMITMENTS, BUT IT IS AN INTENT TO APPLY. THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE HERE IS IF THERE IS NO PRELIMINARY APPLICATION, THAT'S THE GATEWAY THERE IS NO DETAILED APPLICATION. THIS IS A SCREENING PROCESS AND IF THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION IS NOT SUBMITTED, [00:55:05] THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF THE GAME. THERE CAN BE FURTHER VETTING BETWEEN JANUARY TO JUNE, THERE COULD BE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AS SCOPE CAN INCREASE, DECREASE, THE BUDGET CAN INCREASE, DECREASE BUT THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED. IF A LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUBMITS A PRELIMINARY APPLICATION AND IT DECIDES NOT TO MOVE FORWARD, THERE'S NO PENALTY, NO QUESTIONS ASKED THE DETAILED APPLICATION DOES NOT HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED. WHEN WILL WE HEAR BACK THAT WOULD BE IN THE FALL OF 2023, THEY'RE TARGETING OCTOBER, BUT IN PREVIOUS YEARS, I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR THREE ROUNDS OF THIS CALL FOR PROJECTS, THEY TYPICALLY GET AWARDS NOVEMBER. DEFINITELY IN THE FALL AND THIS DATA IS VERY GOOD AT KEEPING THE CALL FOR PROJECTS IN TRACK. >> FOR THE DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK PROJECT, WE'VE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION FOR THIS PROJECT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE A DRAFT THAT FILLS WORKING WITH TEXTILE TO SUBMIT. >> WHICH PROJECT IS THAT? >> THIS IS THE MOBILITY PROJECT. IT'S THE SIDEWALKS DOWNTOWN BETWEEN FRONT STREET AND FELDER MOSCOW. >> I DO HAVE SOME SLIDES AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME OTHER INFORMATION THAT MR. PETERSON PREPARED IF YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE IT. >> BUT HOW FAR DOES THAT TAKE US? AS WE GO FROM MONSON ALL THE WAY TO WILKINS OR DOES IT STOP BEFORE THAT? >> IT GOES FROM CEDAR TO PLUM. >> OKAY. >> THERE'S A LOT OF OUR LOCAL ROADS AS WELL AND IT GOES FROM FRONT STREET, VELASCO, CHINAGO AND AKOLA NOT CONTINUOUS. BUT IT IS A NETWORK THAT IT INCLUDES NOT ONLY TEXAS RIGHT AWAY, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENTS ON CITY ROADS AND COUNTY. WE HAVE HAD A MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, INCLUDING ANGLETON STAFF AND THEY FIND IT AMENABLE AS PART OF THEIR BRASILIA COUNTY COURTHOUSE THEY SEE IT AS AN IMPROVEMENT TO CREATE THAT CAMPUS FEELING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. >> JUST STILL DOESN'T GIVE US THE ONE AREA WE SEE THE MOST I FEEL WE SEE THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND THAT'S FROM MILLER, GOING TO WILKINS AND ACROSS. IT'S A GREAT PROJECT BUT HOW USEFUL IS IT TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN ALONG THE SIDE THAT THEY DON'T REALLY WALK. >> THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS LIKE I MENTIONED, THE LIMITS CAN BE CHANGED. THIS IS NOT SET IN STONE ACTUALLY THE LIMITS WERE PART OF A CONVERSATION WITH CITY STAFF AND WITH THE COUNTY. BUT I DO WANT TO MENTION IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE, WHERE THIS ALL COMES FROM? OR WHERE DID THE IDEA START? DO I HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE? THANK YOU. ACTUALLY ANGLETON WITH THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION BACK IN 2021, HAD A PLANNING STUDY. THIS WAS NOT A TEXAS STUDY IT'S THE MPO, H-GAC STUDY THAT PARTNERED WITH CITY OF ANGLETON IT WENT THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS. AS PART OF THAT STUDY, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS FOR A TRAIL ALONG FRONT STREET. AT THAT TIME BACK IN 2021 ANGLETON REACHED OUT TO US AND SAID, HEY, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TEXAS THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER. BACK SINCE 2021, WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS, BUT OF COURSE, IF THERE IS NO FUNDING MECHANISM, IT'S HARD TO MAKE A PLANNING IDEA COME TO REALITY. WE SEE A LOT OF THIS PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT THEN ARE DONE AND THEN ARE PUT ON THE SHELF AND THEY'RE NEVER IMPLEMENTED. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE ANGLETON STAFF FOR THEIR EFFORT IN CONTINUING SINCE 2021, REACHING OUT TO TEXAS THAT IN KNOCKING ON THE DOOR AND THAT OF COURSE, WITH THE FUNDING AVAILABLE GIVEN THAT IS OBVIOUSLY $275 MILLION AND IT DOES CONNECT A LOT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THIS IS A FRONT STREET AND THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS TODAY AND WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS WHAT IS SHARED USE PATH WOULD LOOK AT FRONT STREET WITH SOME MORE LANDSCAPING AS WELL AS A WIDER TRAIL. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT WHERE'S THE TRANSPORTATION YOU MIGHT ASK. THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT. [01:00:02] TO ADA REALLY 274 IN THIS PART, REALLY DIVIDES ON ONE SIDE WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND THE OTHER SIDE WHERE PEOPLE GO TO WORK AND WHERE PEOPLE GO SHOPPING, WHERE PEOPLE GO EATING. THIS IS LIKE A SPINE, A CONNECTOR, WHERE PEOPLE CAN START THINKING OF MOVING IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND IT'S ALSO A WAY TO REVITALIZE ANGLETON. I WAS HERE ACTUALLY WHEN THE ANGLETON, ASHTON GRAY DEVELOPMENT TALKED ABOUT THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND THEIR TRAILS THAT THEY WERE BRINGING TO ANGLETON. WE'VE SEEN THIS ACROSS REALLY AT TEXAS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF SUBURB DEVELOPMENT BUT THERE IS ALSO A NEED TO REDEVELOP AND CREATE THOSE AMENITIES WITHIN THE CITIES IN A RETROFIT SITUATION, TO CONTINUE TO CREATE THAT ATTRACTION, THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS JUST ONE WAY WHERE BOTH TEXAS, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY COULD LOOK AT IMPROVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR BOTH PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS. >> WE STILL HAVE THE 25 PERCENT MATCH, CORRECT? >> IF I CAN TOUCH ON THIS. BASICALLY, IT'S AN 80, 20 MATCH. >> EIGHTY, 20. >> FOR THE 20 MATCH TXDOT BASED ON THE REQUESTS WE GOT FROM CDI ANGLETON, WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS TO SEE WHETHER TXDOT COULD PUT THE MATCH. AT THIS TIME IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE TIMELINE, PERHAPS SORRY. WE DO NOT HAVE A DECISION, IT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE ORANGE BOX, THERE IS A DISTRICT MEETINGS SO THAT ARE GOING TO BE ONGOING UNTIL MARCH. WE THINK THAT IT MAY BE A POSSIBILITY, HOWEVER NOTHING IS DECIDED AS OF YET AND THE JANUARY 27TH DEADLINE IS HAPPENING THIS FRIDAY. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THOSE MEETINGS GO UP UNTIL END OF MARCH AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ENGAGE TXDOT AND WE ENGAGE THEM. WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK WITH THE CITY BEFORE THIS, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT DURING THIS PERIOD. LIKE I SAID, THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION DOES NEED TO BE SUBMITTED COME FRIDAY TO BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY IN JUNE. IF YOU SUBMIT THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION AND DECIDE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD, COME THE DETAILED APPLICATION, THEN THAT IS ALSO OKAY AND NO QUESTIONS ASKED, YOU JUST DON'T SUBMIT. THE OTHER INTERESTING PIECE BE IS THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, LIKE I SAID, POSSIBLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS THERE FOR US TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AND COME BACK TO PROVIDE OUR UPDATES AS NEEDED. >> WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SUBMIT A DETAILED APPLICATION ON 65 AND THEN BETWEEN THAT AND THE AWARD DATE WE DECIDED WE CAN'T DO IT? WHAT'S THE PENALTY THEN? >> LET ME JUST SAY THAT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. BUT LET ME SAY THAT WHEN A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE WE'VE PARTNERED WITH HITCHCOCK, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH LAMARCK, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH LEAGUE CITY. I MEAN, WE DO THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES LIKE ANGLETON WHERE ALL ROADS GO THROUGH THEIR DOWNTOWNS. YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AND WHEN TXDOT PARTNERS WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND IT IS ON OUR ROADWAY, WE BASICALLY ARE ABLE TO PARTNER IN A WAY WHERE WE CAN DO THE DESIGN, WE CAN TAKE ON SOME OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY. WE CAN SAY THAT IF AWARDED THE FUNDS, TXDOT WOULD BE ABLE TO REALLY PARTNER IN THE AREA THAT IS TXDOT RIGHT AWAY. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE COUNTY OR THE CITY STREETS. HOWEVER, THE COUNTY AS PART OF THEIR BRASILIA COUNTY COURTHOUSE EXPANSION, HAS EXPRESSED THEIR WILLINGNESS TO ENHANCE THEIR SIDEWALKS TO MATCH WHAT IS BEING DONE 8-10 FOOT AND TO REALLY THINK ABOUT HAVING THAT CAMPUS FEEL. >> GREAT. >> I THINK IF THERE WERE A MATCH QUERY, THE DOWNTOWN GRANT WOULD REQUIRE A MATCH, I THINK WE PROBABLY RESPONSIBLE IN 2024 TO HAVE THAT FUNDING. >> YEAH. BASICALLY, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE LEAD YEAR AS PART OF THE APPLICATION, YOU'RE ABLE TO DETERMINE I THINK I'M GOING TO BE READY BY 2027, LET'S JUST ASSUME. [01:05:06] THEN WHEN THAT PROJECT COMES, YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE THE MONEY RIGHT NOW ON 2023. IF YOUR PROJECT IS GOING TO LET 2027, AT THAT POINT, YOU WILL THEN WHEN THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT, WHICH IS A CONTRACT BETWEEN TXDOT AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IS DUE 30 DAYS LATER, THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT PART OF THE MATCH AND THEN THE REMAINING OF THE MATCH IS 60 DAYS PRIOR TO LETTING. BASICALLY, 16 DAYS PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING. NOT EVERYTHING IS DUE IMMEDIATELY, IT REALLY DEPENDS WHEN IT'S SCHEDULED. >> STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S ALREADY READY? WE GO BACK A SLIDE. >> HDR [INAUDIBLE] >> GO BACK AGAIN RIGHT THERE. THE ONE WHERE IT SAYS QUICK CONSTRUCTION OR INSTALLATION ACTIVITIES. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S ALREADY DONE AND READY THAT COULD BE DONE? >> LIKE HDR [INAUDIBLE] >> ALL THIS DOWNTOWN STUFF WAS DONE WITH HDR, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE? >> IT'S ALL VERY PRELIMINARY [OVERLAPPING] TECHNICALLY DESIGNED. >> WHEN YOU SAY PLANS ARE READY, DO YOU MEAN PLANS THAT HAD BEEN REVIEWED BY TXDOT AND AREA CONFORMANCE WITH ALL OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND SUCH THAT THE TXDOT IS GOING TO REQUIRE THIS? >> THIS IS NOT OUR PLANS. AT THIS TIME, THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION IS A THREE-PAGE. >> TALKING ABOUT THE QUICK CONSTRUCTION. >> YEAH. THE QUICK CONSTRUCTION WOULD REQUIRE PLANS TO BE ALMOST READY. IT COULD BE AT 90 OR 60 PERCENT DESIGN COMPLETE. THAT WOULD BE A QUICK CONSTRUCTION. >> THOSE ARE PLANS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY TXDOT THROUGH THESE SECTIONS OR NOT? >> NO. IT COULD HAVE BEEN A 90 PERCENT THAT HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE 30, 60, 90 TXDOT REVIEW PROCESS. >> OKAY. >> BUT DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD MEET THAT CRITERIA? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. >> YEAH. >> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S OUT. >> BASICALLY, IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND ME WALKING OVER THERE. >> SURE. >> IS THAT OKAY? >> THAT'S FINE. >> THEY EVEN GAVE ME A CLICKER, A POINTER TODAY. >> MAYBE I DON'T HAVE A CLICKER TOO. BUT BASICALLY, THIS WOULD BE THE COMMUNITY-BASED INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT HERE. THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE A QUICK BELT. THIS ONE WOULD BE FOR THE COMMUNITY SIZE BASED ON POPULATION AND THEN THIS ONE WOULD BE THE LARGE-SCALE WOULD BE FOR THE BROADER NETWORK BETWEEN THE TXDOT COUNTY AND LOCAL ROADS. >> SURE. >> VELASCO, THE PREVIOUS ROUND WENT FOR THE BLUE BOX, THE COMMUNITY-BASED INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT. >> SURE. >> TO STAFF, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS SO FAR? MEGAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT? >> ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS ONE THING THAT OUR DEPARTMENT AND PARKS RECREATION HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR SINCE WE WERE INVOLVED IN A LIVABLE CENTER STUDY. THIS WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WHILE IT IS A MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN, IT CAN ALSO BE A RECREATIONAL AMENITIES. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT COULD BE DESIGNED AND ADDITIONAL AMENITIES THAT COULD BE ADDED. ALL OF THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT. YOU'RE NOT JUST TALKING CONCRETE IN A PATH. I MEAN, WE CAN GET CREATIVE HERE, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY IN THIS BUCKET. THE OTHER THING THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD MIND ME SAYING IS THAT EACH ORGANIZATION HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT THREE APPLICATIONS. WE ARE ALREADY PLANNING ON THIS ONE AND THEN ADDITIONALLY THE DOWNTOWN SIDEWALKS. BUT WE RECENTLY JUST LAST WEEK, MET WITH A DLC WHO APPROVED TO FUND 20 PERCENT THE NON INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A MULTI-MODAL AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT PRELIMINARY APPLICATION TO TURN IN FRIDAY, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO THEN HOPEFULLY PURSUE THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALREADY HAVE IDEAS IN MIND THAT WE CAN START WORKING THROUGH AND STRATEGICALLY PLANNING ON HOW TO FUND THOSE IN THE FUTURE. >> I MEAN, THE ONE I'M REFERRING TO HONESTLY ISN'T SO MUCH A PARKS AND RECREATION AS IS A MULTIMODAL BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A BUS STOP AT MILLER AND PEOPLE COME OFF THAT BUS AND THEY'RE WALKING ON THE LOOP 274 WITH NO PROTECTION, THERE'S NOTHING THERE FOR THEM. [01:10:02] THE CLOSEST PLACE IS WILKINS, THAT SIDEWALK THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET BACK TO, SO THEY'RE COMING DOWN THAT STRIP RIGHT THERE. IT'S VERY DANGEROUS AND TO ME A MULTIMODAL LIKE YOU REFERRED TO IS YOU HAVE A BUS STOP, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION THERE. YOU HAVE A CVS, YOU HAVE BUC-EE'S IS ON THE OTHER SIDE, SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE THAT I THINK WOULD BE VERY USEFUL. PLUS, GOING BACK TO ANCHOR AND WARN WOULD BE THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE TRYING TO COME UP BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A SAFE PASSAGE ALONE. WILKINS, SO THAT'S WHY I KEEP REFERRING TO THAT SPOT NOT SO MUCH AS PARKS AND REC, BUT MULTIMODAL. >> ABSOLUTELY. I WILL SAY ACTUALLY WHEN WE MET, I MEAN, THIS WAS SEVERAL MONTHS BACK. WE'VE WORKED ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT CONCEPTS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT COUNCIL WITH OFFSHOOTS OFF OF FRENCH STREET, IF YOU REMEMBER. IT DID ACTUALLY GO TO MILLER. LIKE ANNA MENTIONED, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE SUBMITTING THIS APPLICATION ON FRIDAY DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T TWEAK THIS CONCEPT AND WHAT ALL THAT MAY INCLUDE. IF WE FIND THAT THAT IS REALLY A PRIORITY FOR US, LET'S EXTEND IT ALL THE WAY IN THAT DIRECTION. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE STOPPED SPECIFICALLY AT CEDAR AND PLUM IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT WILL CROSS AND CREATE THAT LOOP PATH ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE. >> THERE WAS DEFINITELY, WE HAVE INCORPORATED THE CONNECTION TO TRANSIT STOPS TO CREATE THAT MULTIMODAL. VERY IMPORTANT IS TO IDENTIFY JUST TO CREATE THAT COMPETITIVENESS, SORRY, IF WE CAN GO TO THE EVALUATION CRITERIA I THINK I SKIPPED THAT JUST DUE TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. THAT MIGHT BE THE ONE AFTER THIS ONE. BASICALLY, AND SORRY, THEN THE NEXT ONE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ONE MORE. THIS IS THE EVALUATION CRITERIA JUST SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE. IT'S BASICALLY DIVIDED BETWEEN SAFETY 25 PERCENT FOR SAFETY, OBVIOUSLY, CROSSING INTO 74 IS VERY IMPORTANT IN DOING SO SAFELY. CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESSIBILITY AGAIN, WE'RE CONNECTING WHERE PEOPLE LIVE TO WHERE THEY WORK, TO WHERE THEY SHOP TO WHERE THEY WANT TO EAT. A PROJECT READINESS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE RIGHT-A-WAY ALREADY AVAILABLE, EITHER THE COUNTY, THE CITY OR TXDOT, BECAUSE THAT'S 25 PERCENT OF THE EVALUATION CRITERIA. FINALLY, WE HAVE THE EQUITY FOR ANY VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, AS WELL AS HAVING THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT COMES ALL THE WAY FROM 2021 WHEN THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF A PROJECT IN THE PLANNING STUDY AND OF COURSE, WITHOUT THE SUPPORT THAT THE STAFF HAS GARNERED EVER SINCE. >> THE GOOD NEWS NOW IT'S AN ACTION PLAN, NOT A STUDY. >> ALL STUDY UNTIL CONCRETE IS POURED. [LAUGHTER] COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? STAFF, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? >> I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE SUBMIT THE PRE-APPLICATION TO KEEP OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR. >> I'D HATE TO MISS THIS. >> IS THAT A MOTION? >> IT IS. [LAUGHTER] >> IT'S FUNNY LISTEN TO YOU-ALL'S DISCUSSION ON ABLC WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MULTIMODAL PLANNING FOR THE CITY, AND IT WAS ALMOST A CONVERSATION OF MONEY YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU NEEDED TO SPEND. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> OBVIOUSLY, I THINK ALL OF US TAKE SERIOUSLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BE OUT OF LINE NECESSARILY WITH BEING GOOD STEWARDS. I THINK IF WE WERE TO UTILIZE IT SPECIFICALLY FOR CONNECTIVITY AND SAFETY, I THINK THOSE CERTAINLY WILL PROVIDE COMMUNITY SUPPORT. DO WE HAVE A COMMUNITY SUPPORT FROM THE DOWNTOWN LIVING CENTER? YOU STUDY YES. AND WILL THERE BE SOME EDIFICATION OF DOWNTOWN, SOME BEAUTIFICATION? YEAH, I THINK SO. WOULD ALL BE SECONDARY. BUT I THINK ANYTIME YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THAT CONNECTIVITY, [INAUDIBLE] STILL, EVEN AS WE GROW, [01:15:02] OBVIOUSLY THE FURTHER YOU LIVE AWAY FROM THE CENTER OF TOWN, IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT, BUT I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL WALK, RIDE THEIR BIKES, AND THEY'RE GOING TO LIBRARIES AND TO PARKS AND TO TRACKS OR FIELDS AROUND THE TRACK IN SCHOOL. JUST MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD EXPLORE, AND I WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED MAYBE IF, THERE'S NO SAY WE'RE GETTING IT. JUST GOT TO BE REALISTIC. >> AS WAS DISCUSSED, THIS IS JUST THE PRELIMINARY PLAN SUBMITTAL, THERE'S NOT STAKING US TO ANY FUNDS AT THE TIME, AND THE CONTRACT PROBABLY WON'T LET. THAT WAS ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE FOR YOU. THAT BRINGS ME BACK TO THAT QUOTE. YOU SAID THAT THERE'LL BE A AWARD IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, BUT PLANS WON'T LET UNTIL 2025? >> YEAH. >> SO WE HAVE TWO YEARS? >> TYPICALLY YEAH THE AWARD IS GOING TO BE DONE AT END OF THIS YEAR, 2023. COME JANUARY 2024, THERE IS A PROCESS OF SIX MONTHS TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT. OF COURSE WE HAVE STAFF THAT WILL WALK ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGH THE PROCESS. IT'S NOT VERY DIFFICULT. BUT WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME WITH ALL SIZED COMMUNITIES. THEY'RE ACTUALLY HOPING TO LET SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS APRIL 2024 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT ALONG 274, THERE'S NO UTILITIES. IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND A LOCATION WHERE THERE'S REALLY NO UTILITIES IN THOSE MEDIUMS. THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE FASTER PROJECTS. IT WOULD BE MORE COMPETITIVE IN THE PROJECT READINESS CATEGORY WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE ARE THE PLANS, IS THERE RIGHT AWAY, ARE THEIR UTILITY RELOCATION? WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING. BUT THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S WHY IT WOULD TAKE A YEAR, YEAR 2024 TO FILL ANY CONTRACTUAL PROCEDURES THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN AT THAT TIME. >> THE DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK IS GOING TO BE VERY PAINFUL? >> YES, IT WILL. THAT'S DEFINITELY. >> ON MANY LEVELS. >> TO ME THAT'S THE MOST NEEDED. >> [INAUDIBLE] IF YOU COULD. >> WE'VE ALREADY HAD ACCIDENTS ALONG THAT AREA WHERE PEOPLE HAVE FALLEN AND HURT THEMSELVES. CROSSING ANY OF OUR STATE HIGHWAYS IN OUR AREA IS TREACHEROUS FOR THE MOST PART. >> I THINK THAT THESE FUNDS REALLY FOCUSES ON SAFETY. FOR THE VELASKO ROAD, THERE ARE THREE YEARS, FISCAL YEAR '25, '26, '27 THAT ALLOWS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PLANS AND WHATNOT. >> BECAUSE I LOOKED AT YOUR PICTURE THAT YOU MADE OF THE SPINE AS YOU CALLED IT. WELL, THAT JUST GOT ME TO THINKING ABOUT BESIDES JUST THE SPINE, THE BRANCHES THAT GO UP AT THE VARIOUS CROSS STREETS WOULD TAKE YOU INTO EITHER WEST OF THE LOOP, INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, EAST OF THE LOOP INTO THE DOWNTOWN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. YOU'RE JUST GETTING READY TO WHETHER IT ALL GETS DONE UNDER THIS PROJECT OR FUTURE PROJECTS, YOU'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE TO EXPAND. >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT. SOME OF THOSE BRANCHES ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT. IT WAS AN EXHIBIT THAT ANGLETON STAFF HAS PREPARED FOR YOU ALL. >> I THINK I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL FOR APPROVAL. >> YES. >> FOR THE SUBMITTAL OF THE PRELIMINARY? >> [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] >> I WAS GETTING YOU INTO THIS ONE. >> THANK YOU. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRE [OVERLAPPING] >> PRELIMINARY MULTIMODAL PATHWAY GRANT. >> THE MULTIMODAL PATHWAY GRANT PROJECT PRE-APPLICATION. THAT'S DUE FRIDAY. >> WHAT IS DUE FRIDAY? >> YES. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT ONE'S DUE FRIDAY. IS THAT A SECOND? >> YEAH, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR THE MULTIMODAL PATHWAY GRANT PROJECT WITH TEXT DOT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >> I [OVERLAPPING]. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. [01:20:02] >> [BACKGROUND] THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >> THANK YOU-ALL. >> MARIA WILL HAVE TO TALK SOME TIME ABOUT THE LIGHTS IN [OVERLAPPING] 274 AND 35. >> YES, THEY ARE PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WE DID THE OVERLAY. THE CONTRACTOR SHOULD BE DOING ALL THE LIGHT AND LOOPS THIS SPRING. >> BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY TUNED INTO NIGHT TO HEAR BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THOSE LIGHTS [LAUGHTER]. >> THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT. WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR IS INCLUDED IN THE OVERLAY PROJECT WE HAD. JUST A LITTLE BIT UPDATE. WE STILL PENDING ON LOOP 274 AND ON BUSINESS 288, THE PERMANENT STRIPING. WE STILL HAVE THE TEMPORARY STRIPING. ONCE IT GETS DRIER, THE SUB WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO THE PERMANENT STRIPING. WE STILL HAVE A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE. WE HAVE A NEW PEDESTRIAN CROSSING WE'RE DOING ON BUSINESS 288 ON CANYON ROAD. >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE EXTENDING THE SIDEWALK THERE AND WE ARE ALSO IMPROVING THE SIGNAL LIGHTS ON THOSE TWO CORRIDORS. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT ON STATE HIGHWAY 35, YOU SAW THE OVERLAY, I THINK IN THAT ONE IS WE ARE CHANGING WHAT IS LEFT WITH A FEW SIGNS. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THE LOOPS OR DETECTORS FOR SOME OF THE SIGNALS. THERE ARE TWO WET CROSSINGS, ONE CLOSER TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND I THINK ONE CLOSER TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT WE STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT BARRIER, BUT IT'S UNDER CONTRACT. WE HOPE THAT BY THE SPRING ALL OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER. BUT IF YOU NEED ANY OTHER UPDATE, PLEASE EMAIL ME AND I'LL BE GLAD TO SEND YOU AN UPDATE. I CAN PUT IT ON MY SCHEDULE MAYBE FOR NEXT MONTH TO SEND YOU ANOTHER UPDATE TO THE CITY SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THOSE PROJECTS. >> GREAT. >> A LOT OF WORK IN [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THAT TIME. >> YEAH. THANK YOU MARIA YOU'RE ALWAYS VERY RESOURCEFUL AND HELPFUL. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE >> THANK YOU. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM 11, [11. Discussion and possible action on approving Resolution No. 20230124-011 to contribute $193,834 toward the Police Console Upgrade Project to be further funded by $248,106 from a State Homeland Security Project Grant administered by H-GAC.] DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON IMPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230124-011, TO CONTRIBUTE $193,834 TOWARDS THE POLICE CONSOLE UPGRADE PROJECT TO BE FURTHER FUNDED BY $248,106 FROM A STATE HOMELAND SECURITY PROJECT, GRANT ADMINISTERED BY HDAC. MR. RAMAN? >> YES. AS YOU'VE SEEN IN OUR CIP, THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT. THE CURRENT CONSOLE WE HAVE ON DISPATCH IS NO LONGER BEING SUPPORTED BY THE MANUFACTURER. IT'S BEEN DETERMINED OBSOLETE. THIS IS WHAT IS RECOMMENDED THAT WE UPGRADE IT TO. LOOKING FOR FUNDING STREAMS AND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, THIS IS ONE THAT WE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND THAT WAS ALREADY COUNTY HAS BEGUN PARTICIPATING AGAIN WITH HDACS HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM. THIS IS APROGRAM THAT THEY'LL FIND STUFF THAT HAS A HOMELAND SECURITY, A TERRORISTIC NEXUS TO HELP WITH COMMUNICATIONS IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANT. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE US GAIN IN THIS MORE COMPETITIVE GRANTS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE GOT WITH TEXT OUT HERE. WE'RE GOING TO BE LUMPING OURSELVES IN WITH A BUNCH OF STUFF FROM HARRIS COUNTY THAT HAVE USED IN FORT BEN COUNTY AND ALL THOSE OTHERS. THE BETTER WE CAN APPEAR TO THEM, MAKES US MORE LIKELY TO GET SELECTED OR AT LEAST PRIORITIZED IN A HIGHER POSITION WHERE WE'RE LIKELY TO GET CHOSEN. TWO OTHER THINGS THAT IS CONTROLLABLE THAT MAKES US A HIGHER SELECTED, WE'LL GIVE US MORE POINTS ON THEIR SCORING SHEET, IS THIS BEING A REGIONAL PROJECT WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS WITH LOCAL AGENCIES AND ESPECIALLY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. UPGRADING OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM HELPS THEM TO DISPATCH BETTER AND KEEPS OUR COMMUNICATIONS MORE RELIABLE IN EMERGENCIES AND SITUATIONS. TO MAKE IT SCALABLE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT FOOTING THE ENTIRE BILL, WE'RE FOOTING A PORTION, THEY'RE PAYING A PORTION. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE USUALLY LOOKING AT IN THIS GRANT THAT GETS DIVVIED UP AMONGST PARTICIPANTS IN THE HDAC REGION IS ABOUT $2.3 MILLION. WE WOULD TO GO FOR THE ENTIRE $441,000 TO UPGRADE THIS, THAT WOULD TAKE ALMOST A QUARTER OF THE POT AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD AGREE TO. TAKEN PROBABLY A LITTLE FROM EACH PROJECT IN ARP 2, WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN COMMIT TO SUBSIDY MONEY AND MAKE US A HIGHER PRIORITY. AGAIN, IF WE DON'T GET CHOSEN, OR PRIORITY PUTS US DOWN TOWARD THE BOTTOM, THEN THIS MONEY REMAINS WITH THE CITY AND GETS SPENT ON WHATEVER PROJECT IT WAS SET UP WITH BEFORE. >> ALWAYS SCARES ME WHEN I SEE BUDGET AMOUNT ZERO UNREQUESTED. YOU'RE WANTING TO USE THE ARP FUNDS THAT ARE LEFTOVER? >> A PORTION. >> YEAH, THERE'S LIKE, I THINK ARP 2 HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN WASTEWATER STUFF. >> WE TAKE SOME MONEY FROM THAT. >> THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WE GOT MONEY LEFT IN PERHAPS [INAUDIBLE]. [01:25:05] LIKE ANYTHING, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS TO EARN BUDGET AND THAT WAS A HUGE AMOUNT. HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO PAY DOWN SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED. COMMUNICATIONS THROUGH ALL THREE EMERGENCY SERVICES. >> HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD THIS? >> 20 YEARS. >> 58, 3,500, WHATEVER. >>THE CURRENT ONE. >> THAT'S NO LONGER BEEN SUPPORTED. HOW OLD IS THAT? >> [INAUDIBLE] IN THERE. >> FOR SOME REASON 20 YEARS RINGS A BELL. >> JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THE ARP FUNDING, I KNOW WE SET OUT A PARTY LIST. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A VISUAL TO SEE WHERE WE ARE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. WOULD THIS FUNDING, WHICH IS NOT DISAGREEING WITH, ITS NECESSITY. I JUST CAN NOT FIND OUT WHERE WE ARE ON THOSE OTHER ITEMS, WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE TO SET SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS ASIDE THAT WE HAD PRIORITIZED OR WHERE ARE WE? >> AGAIN, LIKE SEWER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, WE HAVEN'T SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF ARP 2. TO ME THAT WOULD BE A PRIME TARGET. I THINK THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS, MAYBE WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH IN THAT WE MAYBE DON'T TOUCH OR SOMETHING. BUT WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU IF YOU APPROVE THIS AND SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THEN ALSO SHOW YOU WHERE WE WOULD CREATE A NEW CATEGORY WITH IT. >> I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT REGARDLESS OF THE VOTE. >> YEAH. YOU BET. I'LL SEND IT TO YOU THIS WEEK. >> SAME. JUST CONCERNED. WE TARGETED THOSE WASTEWATER TREATMENT OR WASTEWATER PROJECTS. DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON THE ARP FUNDS TO BE SPENT BY? >> THE TIMELINE IS UNKNOWN. >> IS IT 2025? I THINK THAT'S AT THE END OF FY 2025. >> IT'S NOT URGENT THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS. IT IS FOR THIS GRANT, I'M SAYING THE ARP MONEY. YOU SAID THAT THIS IS BEING CONCURRENTLY WORKED WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT [OVERLAPPING] IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND AN EMS INVOLVED IN THIS? >> THAT'S CORRECT, BECAUSE WE DISPATCH FOR BOTH OF THOSE ENTITIES. >> THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE USABLE FOR ALL GROUPS? >> IN FACT, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS BEEN ENCOURAGING US TO GET THIS UPGRADE. >>. THEY HAVE THE SAME SYSTEM? >> CORRECT. >> YES. >> THE ONE YOU ALL WANT TO MOVE TO? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. >> IT'S THE SAME SYSTEM, IT'S JUST AN UPGRADE. >> OKAY. AT CERTAIN POINT, THEY JUST NOT GOING TO DO ANY MORE UPDATES ON THE OLD SYSTEM. THEY JUST WANT YOU TO START FRESH WITH THEIR NEWER SYSTEM BASICALLY? >> IT'S CORRECT. WE'RE THERE AND THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON THEIR RADIO SYSTEM. [INAUDIBLE] HAS BEEN TALKING TO THE [INAUDIBLE], TALKING TO HIS CHIEF DOCTOR, THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR RADIO SYSTEM. THEY'RE GOING TO ELEVATE THEIR TOWER. IT ALL COINCIDES TO WORK TOGETHER. WE WORK OFF AT THE COUNTY SYSTEM. >> I KNOW WE TAKE CALLS A LOT OF TIMES FOR OUR NEIGHBORING SMALLER AGENCIES, LIKE I DON'T WANT TO NAME THEM, BUT SMALLER NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS. >> COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230124-001, SUPPORTING AUTHORIZING THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN HOMELAND SECURITY PROGRAM. >> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE POLICE CONSOLE UPGRADE PROJECT GRANTS APPLICATION. TRYING TO GET BACK HERE, HOLD ON. RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230124-011. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE OF IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. GOOD LUCK, GLENN. ITEM NUMBER 12. [12. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230124-012 to impose a percentagebased collection fee on delinquent utility accounts to defray the cost of collections.] DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230124-012, BASE COLLECTION FEE ON DELINQUENT UTILITY ACCOUNTS TO DEFRAY [01:30:04] THE COST OF COLLECTIONS. YES RAPHAEL. >> THIS ORDINANCE IS A COMPANION PIECE TO THE RESOLUTION WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. THIS ORDINANCE WILL ALLOW THE LAW FIRM OF PERDUE BRANDON TO ADD A 20 PERCENT PENALTY ON TO DELINQUENT UTILITY BILLS THAT WE TURN OVER TO THEM FOR COLLECTION. THE FEE IS WILL BE PAID BY THE UTILITY CUSTOMER WHO IS DELINQUENT AND THE CITY WON'T BE OUT ANY MONEY. BUT IF THEY DON'T PAY THE BILL, WE DON'T PERDUE BRANDON THAT DIDN'T GET COLLECTED, DIDN'T GET ANY MONEY. THEY HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO PURSUE OUR COLLECTIONS. WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN OUTSTANDING UTILITY BILLS THAT ARE OVER 60 DAYS OLD. I KNOW A LOT OF THOSE PROBABLY WE WILL NEVER SEE. A LOT OF THAT MONEY WE'LL PROBABLY NEVER SEE, BUT ANYTHING WE CAN COLLECT WILL HELP. >> I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAD LIKE 750,000 DOLLARS IN WATER DEBT WHEN I ARRIVED. NOT MY FAULT, BUT WE HAVE TO GET AFTER THAT AND SO WE ADDED THAT TO THE RFQ. THAT'S ONE WAY OF GETTING AFTER THAT. >> HAS PERDUE BRANDON BEEN DOING THIS FOR US ALREADY? >> NO, SIR. >> NO I DON'T THINK SO. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'VE NOT BEEN DEFLECTING OUR UTILITY BILLS. NOBODY HAS BEEN. >> WELL, WE TRIED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE PAST, BUT IT NEVER REALLY WORKED. NORMALLY, THINGS LIKE THIS, I LIKE TO SEE US TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE TRY TO GO AND DRAFT SOMETHING AND TAKE ACTION ON IT BECAUSE THIS REALLY AFFECTS RESIDENTS. I'M NOT SURE 60 DAYS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO HAND THAT OFF. I THINK YOU AND I HAVE TALKED BRIEFLY FEEL THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE, I MEAN, WE JUST RAISED WATER RATES AND SEWER RATES AND THEN YOU WANT TO HIT THEM WITH 20 PERCENT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SEND THEM OVER TO PERDUE BRANDON AFTER 60 DAYS. MIKE, I KNOW YOU DO A GREAT JOB ON COLLECTIONS, SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. BUT WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS WE'RE GOING TO BE PENALIZING PEOPLE UNFAIRLY. AT WHAT POINT DO WE SAY WE'RE CUTTING THEIR WATER OFF? SIXTY DAYS, 90 DAYS, 30 DAYS? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> BUT WE ALSO TRY TO WORK WITH RESIDENTS. THERE'S ALL EXCEPTIONS. >> THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU STILL HAVE ROOM TO WORK WITH THOSE RESIDENTS AND I THINK EVEN AFTER 60 DAYS, YOU STILL CAN. I THINK MAYBE 180 DAYS IS MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT'S REALLY A PAST DUE THAT YOU'RE STARTING TO GO INTO THAT COLLECTION EFFORT. LOOK AT THE HOSPITAL BILL. WHEN DO THEY MOVE THINGS TO COLLECTIONS FOR A HOSPITAL BILL? IT'S NOT 60 DAYS. >> I'M JUST NOT THAT RESILIENT. >> WHAT? >> THEY RARELY COLLECT. HOSPITALS ARE A DIFFERENT ANIMAL ALTOGETHER. LET ME JUST SAY THAT THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT DEBT, AS PHIL MENTIONED, AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY MISREPRESENTATIONS TO COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC ON WHAT OUR ABILITY IS GOING TO BE. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE EFFORT IN TO TRY TO COLLECT IT. IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH 60 DAYS, WE CAN GO 90, 120, 180. THE REALITY IS THIS, UNLESS AND UNTIL YOU SEND US THE DATA, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. >> CORRECT. >> PART OF IT IS GOING TO BE HOW THE CITY IS GOING TO PROGRAM ITS SIDE SO THAT ONCE IT TURNS IT OVER TO US, THE ADDITIONAL PENALTY IS ADDED. WHATEVER DATE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, BECAUSE I'M GIVING YOU A BIG DISCLAIMER HERE. I'M GREAT AT PROPERTY TAXES, I'M GREAT AT FINDING FEES. YOUR MOWING LEANS, YOUR DEMO LEANS, UTILITIES IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING. >> YES, IT IS. >> EVEN IN OUR PROPOSAL, WE SUGGESTED FROM THE CITY SIDE, AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS. WHAT CAN THE CITY DO? MAYBE YOU CHANGED THE AMOUNT OF DEPOSIT THAT YOU ASK FOR, MAYBE YOU CHANGED THE NUMBER OF DAYS BEFORE YOU DO TURN OFF. THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION, COALITION OF CITIES THAT PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE IN TO TRY TO CATCH MONEY. I MEAN, WE'LL CERTAINLY GIVE THOSE IDEAS TO STAFF AND WHATEVER DATE YOU WANT COUNCIL FOR US TO THEN BEGIN OUR WORK IS GREAT. THE MAIN THING IS THAT THE LAW IS SUCH NOW THAT YOU CAN PASS ON, YOU CAN ADD OUR FEE. IT USED TO BE IN THE PAST THAT IT WAS A TAKEAWAY FOR YOU. THIS IS NOW AN ADD-ON. AT LEAST IT'S AT NO COST TO THE CITY. [01:35:07] >> FINANCIALLY, DO WE HAVE AN ACCRUAL FOR THIS FOR BAD DEBT AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD? >> YES, WE DO. >> WHAT IS THAT DATE? CAN YOU BREAK DOWN? >> I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT TO SEE EXACTLY, BUT I KNOW WE WILL DO AN ACCRUAL FOR OUR LAST FISCAL YEAR. >> IS IT A PERCENTAGE BASED OFF OF CERTAIN AGES OF THE DELINQUENCY? >> YES. >> THERE'S SOME DAYS YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] PEOPLE, BAD DEBT AND THEY MOVE. [OVERLAPPING] WE'VE SEEN CASES WHERE YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN THE HOUSEHOLD AND THE PERSON WITH THE ONE NAME GOT THE BAD DEBT, AND THEN THEY CHANGE HOUSES AND NOW THE OTHER PERSON'S SIGNED UP. WE DON'T KNOW. SOME OF THE DEBT THAT'S SIX MONTHS OLD, YOU'RE PROBABLY NEVER GOING TO GET BECAUSE THEY MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. THERE'S NOT A GOOD WAY TO NECESSARILY FIND THEM. >> IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN. I MEAN, I DEAL WITH IT IN MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER AS WELL, WITH CUSTOMERS. BECAUSE OF BANKRUPTCY, THEY MOVE, THEY CLAIM THEY NEVER RECEIVED THE SERVICE OR THAT GOES TO HOW MUCH LEGAL DOLLARS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEND ON IT. BUT I DO THINK 60 DAYS IS TOO SOON. >> WE CAN ADJUST THAT. >> GOING 120? >> I WOULD BE FINE WITH 120. >> YEAH, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE 180 IS PUSHING A LITTLE FAR. >> I JUST DO THAT NUMBER OUT THERE. >> IF SOMEBODY IS BEHIND THAT MUCH, THEY MAY HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE CATCHING BACK UP. IT'S ONE OF THOSE, YOU DON'T WANT TO CATCH THEM TOO EARLY TOWARDS THE NUISANCE. YOU DON'T WANT TO CATCH THEM TOO LATE TO WHERE THEY CAN'T CATCH UP. >> LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. WHEN YOU CUT OFF, ARE THEY STILL GETTING A BILL FOR THE NEXT MONTH EVEN AFTER SERVICE IS CUT OFF? WHEN LET'S SAY I HIT A CUTOFF, AT THAT POINT, THAT'S THE AMOUNT I OWE. I DON'T OWE ANYTHING FURTHER OR AM I STILL GETTING BILLED FOR FUTURE PERIODS EVEN WHEN I DON'T HAVE THE SERVICE? >> [INAUDIBLE] WE GO CUT IT ALL. YOU HAVE TO CUT OFF [INAUDIBLE] >> YOU GOT TO GO TO THE MICROPHONE. >> WE GO OUT AND WE CUT IT OFF. WE HAVE LIKE TWO GUYS, THREE GUYS WORKING IT. AS THEY'RE WORKING IT, THEY GOT TO GO BACK AND RECHECK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CUTTING THEM BACK HOME. WE LOCK IN AND IT TAKES A LOT TO PULL A METER AND THAT THEY ARE LESS. USUALLY ABOUT 90 DAYS WE'LL PULL THE METER. >> EVEN WITH THE ELECTRONIC ONES NOW? >> WE DON'T HAVE TO CUTOFF VALVES ON THEM, BUT WE CAN LOOK AND SEE IF THEY'RE USING WATER AND WE CAN PUT AN ALARM ON THERE AND SEE IF THEY TURN IT BACK ON. >> THERE WERE FANCIER METERS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT. WE COULD TURN IT OFF FROM CITY HALL AND THEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE. BUT THEY ALSO GET LATE FEES. >> YEAH. >> I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HURTING OUT THERE AND IT'S A DIFFICULT TIME TO DO THIS [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM. I MEAN, IF THEY HAVE ISSUES, WE COME UP WITH PAYMENT PLANS AND [OVERLAPPING] ALL THAT OTHER OPTIONS TO GET THEM BACK ON TRACK. >> YEAH. I WANT TO SAY CHLOE DOES A GREAT JOB FOR THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO THAT'VE HAD ISSUES. CHLOE WORKS WITH THEM AND IS EXCELLENT WITH THEM. >> [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] >> WE'LL GET THE HANG OF IT. >> IT'S LIKE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR 120 DAYS AND WE POST NOTICE, TALK TO THE PEOPLE. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE WATER IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON. >> YEAH. >> BUT LIKE I SAID, WE WORK WITH THEM. WE DID THOSE THREE TODAY, ONE IS ALREADY RESOLVED. BUT THAT'S THE NORMAL WHEN WE RECEIVE THEM AS I GUESS IT'D BE 90 DAYS, 120 DAYS. >> SIR, MIGHT YOU UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY ANYTHING WE'VE COVERED, CITY GETS PAID FIRST AND YOUR 20 PERCENT COMES AFTER CITY IS PAID WHOLE. >> I'M SORRY. IT WOULD REALLY BE COLLECTED TOGETHER. WE WOULD DEMAND SAY, THE FULL AMOUNT. [01:40:06] IF WE WERE AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY TO LET SOMEBODY PAY IT OUT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, EVERY TIME WE COLLECTED PART OF IT, WE GET PART OF THAT FEE, YOU GET PART OF IT TOGETHER. >> LET'S SAY 80 PERCENT AND YOU'D TAKE 20 AND THEN EACH MONTH WOULD BE THE SAME? >> YES, SIR. >> TO QUOTE JARED, CAN I GET A 120? WELL, JARED, CAN I GET A 120? >> CAN I GET A 120. [LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW, COUNCIL. >> I'LL JUST SAY MY LITTLE PIECE. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD ASPIRE TO DO OR WE SHOULD IMPLEMENT AND ASPIRE TO ACHIEVE. OBVIOUSLY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE REALITY IS THAT MAYBE DIFFICULT. I'M ACTUALLY OKAY WITH 90 DAYS, BUT IF YOU-ALL WANT 120, THEN I WILL GO WITH THE GROUP. >> I'D PREFER 120. >> I THINK IS THAT SOME POINT YOU GOT TO DRAW LINES. >> YEAH, 120. >> WELL, I GET IT. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, FOUR MONTHS IS A LONG TIME, IT'S A LOT OF BACK. >> I REALIZE LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF THIS $750,000 YOU'LL NEVER GET. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO STEM THIS TIDE. >> I AGREE. >> IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING, IT'S GOING TO BE A MILLION DOLLARS, GOING TO BE A MILLION AND A QUARTER. FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION, OUR WATER IS ONLY GOING TO GO UP. >> OH, YEAH. >> PROBABLY ANNUALLY. THAT'S EVERYBODY. >> IF YOU'RE THE PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE AND IS FORTUNATE ENOUGH, I KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL HAVE MISFORTUNES AND THINGS COME UP AND THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR PAYMENTS. BUT IF YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE AND YOU HAVE THOSE GOOD FORTUNES AND YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, IT'S OKAY TO DRAW A LINE BETWEEN THOSE WHO DON'T FALL SHORT FOR WHATEVER REASON. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SETTING THE FEE. IF YOU-ALL WANT IT FOR 120 DAYS, IF YOU THINK THAT GIVES SOMEBODY A CHANCE TO CATCH UP. >> I DO. >> IT'S OKAY TO REWARD PEOPLE WHO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND THERE HAVE BEEN CONSEQUENCES IF YOU CAN'T. THIS IS MY OPINION. >> NOW, I AGREE WITH YOU TO THAT EXTENT, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE FEES THAT YOU MISS IT BY ONE DAY YOU GET A FEE. WE'RE FEEING PEOPLE AND WE'RE TRYING TO STEM THAT BEHAVIOR. BUT THE BEHAVIOR THAT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE EVER GOING TO FIX IS UNLESS YOU GET SOMEBODY LIKE MR. DARO THAT CAN TRACK THEM DOWN, PUT LANES, GET THE MONEY. RIGHT NOW, CHLOE'S GROUP, THEY TRY TO COLLECT, THEY SEND ANOTHER EMAIL, THEY SEND ANOTHER LETTER AND THE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SKIPPED TOWN AND ARE GONE. OR AS CHRIS ALLUDED TO, THEY CHANGE THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE. BUT MR. DARO IS STILL GOING TO CATCH THAT. I THINK 120 DAYS IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, PEOPLE ARE LOSING JOBS, PEOPLE ARE SEEING HIGHER RATES, I THINK 120 DAYS IS FINE, HONESTLY. >> LET ME JUST EXCUSE. >> I DON'T WANT TO START ACCRUING IN MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER FOR OUTSTANDING DEBT UNTIL AFTER 90 DAYS AND THAT'S ONLY FIVE PERCENT. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. BUT I'M SAYING THAT 90 DAYS IS THE NORM, BUT I THINK WE'RE STARTING 120. IF IT'S NOT WORKING, THEN WE GO BACKWARDS, AND WE GET TO 90. I THINK 120 IS A SAFE NUMBER. >> I'M JUST SAYING, AT CERTAIN POINT YOU'VE BUILT UP SO MUCH DEBT. I KNOW IT'S ONLY ONE EXTRA MONTH, ONE MORE 30-DAY PERIOD, ESSENTIALLY. >> YEAH. >> THAT'S 20 PERCENT OF ANOTHER ADDITIONAL MONTH SO THAT'S CLIMBING. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, JUST AS WE TALK ABOUT MUCH PRESENTLY THE CASE, BUT HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT INFLATION SHRINKS AND THERE'S SOME PEAKS, LESS VALLEYS. I'M JUST SAYING I FEEL LIKE 90, BUT I'LL GO WITH 120. >> THE 750,000 ALSO, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU DID A WRITE-OFF? [01:45:01] I DON'T BELIEVE CITY OF ANGLETON HAS DONE A WRITE OFF OF BAD DEBT IN QUITE SOME TIME. AT 750 IS AN ONGOING NUMBER, IT'S LIKE THE NATIONAL DEBT, JUST KEEPS GOING. >> IT IS. >> THIS STUFF GOING BACK TO WHAT, 2002, '01. >> I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME THEY ACTUALLY WROTE OFF ANY. >> I'M ACTUALLY SURPRISED IT'S ONLY 750,000 AT THIS POINT. >> CAN'T JUST USE THAT AS A NUMBER BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, COST OF STUFF AND RAISING RATES, THEN WE'RE GETTING THE PEOPLE THAT PAY THEIR DEBT OR PAY THEIR OBLIGATION, PAYING FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S WALKING OUT THE DOOR. THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF PUTTING SOME IN PLACE. >> I'M TOO. >> WE CAN TRY IT AND THEN WE CAN ADJUST OR NOT. BUT FOR THE TAXPAYER OR THE WATER ACCOUNT USERS TRYING TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT MONEY. >> COUNCIL. FORMER MAYOR USED TO SAY THIS IS WHY THEY PAY US THE BIG BUCKS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS AN ADDITIONAL 200 PERCENT PENALTY TO BE ADDED TO THE MOUNT OWED BY UTILITY CUSTOMERS WHO ARE MORE THAN 120 DAYS PASSED AND HAD BEEN REFERRED TO PRIVATE FIRM FOR COLLECTION. PENALTY WILL BE DEFRAID THE COST OF COLLECTIONS. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR THE 20 PERCENT PENALTY AFTER 120 DAYS ON THE UTILITY BILLS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> WE WILL NOTE ANY AND ALL FUNDS THAT WE DON'T GET FROM THE USER IT EVENTUALLY IT GETS ON YOUR OWN, YOUR WATER BILL BY WATER BILL, BUT IT'S GOT TO GET PAID BY SOMEBODY. WHILE I'M A BIG ADVOCATE FOR CHARITY, I LIKE IT. I LIKE TO DECIDE WHAT CHARITY I GIVE TO INSTEAD OF IT HAVING BEEN IMPOSED ON ME. THERE ARE THOSE OUT THERE WHO USED TO CITY. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I'M READY TO GO AFTER MORE QUICKLY THAN PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY DOWN, OWNER LUCK. MY HEART GOES OUT TO FOLKS THAT ARE REALLY IN A BIND. >> I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKING THIS ACTION AND HOPEFULLY IF IT'S GOING WELL, IF IT'S NOT GOING WELL, THEN WE START MOVING IT TO PENALIZE EARLIER. >> THANK YOU. >> START SOMEWHERE THOUGH. >> I FEEL LIKE WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE FEEDBACK IS MEN FROM THE CITIES THAT THEY USE A LOT OF DISCRETION AS IT IS. >> YEAH. >> I DON T THINK WE'VE TAKEN THAT AWAY. I HOPE NOT. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES MR. MAYOR. >> JUST ANY EFFORT OF PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER, I RECOMMEND SECTION 14 AND 13. >> I WILL SKIP 13 AND COME BACK TO THAT AND WE'LL MOVE TO 14. [14. Discussion and possible action on awarding the Request for Qualification (RFQ) Legal Services for the Collection of Delinquent Utility Bills, Delinquent Property Taxes and Delinquent Municipal Court Fines and Fee to Perdue Brandon Fielder Collins, & Mott, LLP and authorize the City Manager to execute contingent fee contracts with Perdue Brandon City Council - January 24, 2023 P a g e | 3 Fielder Collins and Mott. LLP once legal review is complete for the collection of delinquent ad valorem taxes and public improvement district assessments, court fines, fees and court costs, and utility accounts owed to the City of Angleton and written findings related to said contracts; notice of said contracts and written findings were posted with the agenda in accordance with Section 2254 of the Government Code.] DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON AWARDING THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION LEGAL SERVICES FOR THE COLLECTION OF DELINQUENT UTILITY BILLS, DELINQUENT PROPERTY TAXES, AND DELINQUENT MUNICIPAL COURT FINES AND FEE TO PERDUE, BRANDON, FIELDER, COLLINS, AND MOTT LLP, AND AUTHORIZES THE MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTINGENT FEE CONTRACTS WITH PERDUE, BRANDON, FIELDER, COLLINS, AND MOTT LLP. ONCE LEGAL REVIEW IS COMPLETE FOR THE COLLECTION OF DELINQUENT AD VALOREM TAXES AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ASSESSMENTS, COURT FINES, FEES, AND COURT COSTS, AND UTILITY ACCOUNTS OWE TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND WRITTEN FINDINGS RELATED TO SAID CONTRACTS, NOTICE OF SAID CONTRACTS, AND WRITTEN FINDINGS WERE POSTED WITH THE AGENDA IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2254 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. THERE YOU GO. >> YES SIR. IN DECEMBER WE SENT OUT A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR LAW FIRMS TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON. WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE AND THAT WAS FROM THE PHARMA PERDUE BRANDON. HOWEVER, WE DID GO AHEAD AND DO A COMMITTEE TO RANK THE RESPONSE JUST LIKE WE DO ALL OF OUR OTHER RESPOND REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR QUALIFICATIONS. YOU HAVE THE SCORE SHEETS IN YOUR PACKET. I THINK THE AVERAGE SCORE WAS 90 OUT OF 100. PERDUE BRANDON HAS BEEN DOING DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE CITY FOR A VERY LONG TIME. [01:50:01] THIS REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS WAS NOT IN ANY WAY MEANT TO DISPARAGE THEIR ABILITIES OR THE WORK THEY'VE DONE FOR THE CITY BUT IT'S SIMPLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR OUR DOLLAR AND STAFF. IT WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CONTRACTS BE AWARDED TO PERDUE BRANDON AND WHATEVER ELSE. >> JOHN, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH HDR. WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A RECORD OF THEM BEING CONFIRMED AS THE CITY ENGINEER. WE CAN SAY THAT PERDUE BRANDON IS OUR TAX COLLECTOR AGAIN FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND THERE'S NO QUESTION AND WE'VE GOT TO RECORD. >> SOUNDS GOOD. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE LAW FIRM OF PERDUE BRANDON FIELDER AND COLLINS, AND MOTT LLP FOR THE COLLECTION OF DELINQUENT PROPERTY TAXES, UTILITY BILLS, AND MUNICIPAL COURT FINES AND FEES. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR THE AWARDING OF THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION LEGAL SERVICES TO PERDUE BRANDON FIELDER AND COLLINS AND MOTT LLP. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN? MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU EVERYBODY. >> THANK YOU MR. DARWIN. >> THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE YOU STICKING AROUND. [LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU. MR. RAU. >> TILL MORNING. >> GOD, THEY DO WHAT THEY DO AND NOW WHAT WE DO. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. JERRY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I DO? [LAUGHTER] >> IF I MAKE BIG BUCKS. [LAUGHTER] >> NUMBER 13, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON [13. Discussion and possible action on a proposed Concept Plan for Whispering Oaks Subdivision, for 49 lots, 2 Blocks, on 28.203 acres located north of Western Avenue and east of Heritage Oaks Drive.] A PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN FOR WHISPERING OAKS SUBDIVISION FOR 49 LOTS, TWO BLOCKS ON 28.203 ACRES LOCATED NORTH OF WESTERN AVENUE AND EAST OF HERITAGE JOKES DRIVE. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. THIS DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CONCEPT PLAN ON LINK FOR THE WHISPERING OAKS, LITTLE OVER 28 ACRES AS YOU SAID, 49 LOTS. ONE REASON FOR THE CONCEPT PLAN IS WE'VE NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING FORMALLY FOR IT. THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN ON LINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT FOR DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION AND WENT THROUGH P AND Z AND IT WAS 7, 0 APPROVAL ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. I THINK THAT'S IT. THEIR ATTACHMENT 103. IT IS 49. SINGLE-PHASE, A 7.2 ZONING. HE'S PROPOSING 100 FOOT WIDE LOTS BY 130 FOOT DEPTH WHICH OF COURSE IS BIGGER THAN YOUR NORMAL 72, WHICH IS 60 BY 100, WELL 7,200 SQUARE FEET, LOT OF AREA. A TREE SURVEY HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THE DEVELOPER IN DOUG WITH BAKER AND LAWSON HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE ENTRANCE THERE OF I THINK THAT'S HERITAGE OAKS BOULEVARD. THAT IS THE ONLY ACCESS THERE IS AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL CAN APPROVE ANYWHERE OVER 30 AND UNDER 50 LOTS WITH A BOULEVARD ENTRANCE. WE DID SPEAK TO FIRE PD, AMBULANCE. IT'S BEEN A WHILE BACK. FIRE DID MENTION THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE 48 FOOT, IT'S A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY GOING IN ON THAT ROAD. ONE HOUSE DOES FRONT IT ON THE SOUTH, THERE WOULDN'T BE TAKING ANYTHING FROM THE HOUSE. FIRE WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THE BOULEVARD OUT, DOES HAVE A 48 FOOT WIDE. >> OPENING. >> OPENING RIGHT AWAY WITH NO PARKING SIGNS ALONG WHERE THAT HOUSE IS COMING IN. THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THEM. BUT THIS IS HIS 49 LOT CONCEPT PLAN. WE WENT THROUGH P AND Z WITH THAT JUST TO GET THEIR TAKE. HE'S WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD, OF COURSE WITH PRELIMINARY AND THEN A FINAL PLAN. THIS WILL HELP HIM IF ACTION WAS TAKEN IF IT WAS APPROVED, [01:55:07] HE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WORKING ON THE PRELIMINARY. I KNOW HE HAD HAD SOMETHING PRIVATELY WORKED OUT WITH THAT HOMEOWNER I BELIEVE, THAT THEY WOULD OFFER TO DO HIM A DRIVEWAY. BUT THEY ARE HERE TO THE DEVELOPER AND BAKER AND LAWSON. IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANYMORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THAT PRETTY WELL. TREE SURVEY WAS DONE. WHEN YOU BRING A PRELIMINARY, OF COURSE YOU WOULD SEE MORE THINGS THERE ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THEN THE FINAL PLAT, OF COURSE PARKLAND DEDICATION, HERITAGE TREE WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE. ADD, OF COURSE ALL THE NORMAL ENGINEERING COMMENTS. THAT'S HIS PROPOSAL, 49 LOTS, WHICH, LIKE I SAID, COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THAT BOULEVARD ENTRANCE FROM 30 TO UNDER 50 LOTS. THAT IS, LIKE I SAID, A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY GOING IN WHICH YOU WOULD USE ROUGHLY 48 RATHER AT 50. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER DEVELOPER OR DOUG WITH BAKER AND LAWSON? >> THE HOMEOWNER ON THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT? >> HE WAS AT [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THEY HAD THAT LAST TIME. >> THE P AND ZS. I THINK THEY THOUGHT, AND IF YOU WANT AT FIRST, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE [OVERLAPPING]. BUT IT IS A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. >> YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER? >> YEAH. >> COUNCIL, [INAUDIBLE] NASH. I'M THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROPERTY. I THINK I WAS THERE ABOUT THREE MONTHS BACK. I THINK IT STARTED A GREAT JOB SUMMARIZING THE KEY POINTS HERE. I'D LIKE TO RE-EMPHASIZE THE ZONING ON THIS WAS 7.2 AND OUR INITIAL PROPOSAL INITIAL PLANS THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY WAS AN 80 FOOT LOT SUBDIVISION, AS I THINK WE MENTIONED THAT LAST TIME WE WERE HERE. SINCE THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN BE REALLY INTEGRATED WITHIN THE WIDER HERITAGE OAKS COMMUNITY, WE WENT AND MET THE HOA TWICE WITH THAT PROPOSAL. AGAIN, 80 FOOT LOTS WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT CLOSE TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS WAY OVER 7.2. BUT WE GOT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE HOA THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS THERE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY. DESPITE OUR RELUCTANCE, WE WENT BACK AND MODIFIED THE PLAN AS YOU SEE TO MAKE 200 FOOT LOTS. IT'S NOT IDEAL IN THIS GIVEN CONDITION AS YOU ALREADY MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS BEFORE US. BUT WE STILL TOOK THE PLAN OF MAKING SURE IT IS WELL-INTEGRATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND MADE 100 FOOT LOT PLAN. WHEN WE CAME PRESENTED THIS TO YOU AT THREE MONTHS BACK, THE POINT WAS NOTED THAT WE MAY NOT COMPLY TO THE HERITAGE OAKS ORDINANCE. WE WENT BACK AND WE BE PERFORMED THE TREE SURVEY, AS YOU CAN SEE, AND WE HAVE LAID OUT THOSE 49 LOTS WITHOUT ANY TREE BEING DAMAGED. IF THERE IS ANY TREE THAT MAY COME OUT TO BE DAMAGED, WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THE CREDITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT WILL DEFINITELY COMPLY WITH THE INTENT AND THE LAW OF THE ORDINANCE. THE HERITAGE TREE ORDINANCE, BUT COMPLETELY COMPLIANT WITH THIS PLAN AND THEREBY WE HAVE CHECKED THAT BOX AS WELL. THEN WE WERE TOLD, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL STEPS WE'RE TAKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONFORM TO THE ORDINANCES AS WELL AS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY IS REQUESTING. AFTER ALL THAT WAS DONE. NOW, THE ONLY THING WE'RE LEFT WITH IS THIS SINGLE ENTRANCE. AND AS I'VE MENTIONED THREE MONTHS BACK HERE, WE HAVE EXHAUSTED ABOUT SIX DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE EGRESS FROM THIS 28 ACRES. IF THERE WAS ONE AVAILABLE, BELIEVE ME, WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT OURSELVES. WE'LL STILL KEEP ON TRYING. [02:00:02] BUT AS OF TODAY, THAT IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE WE HAVE, AND HENCE WE ARE LEFT WITH NOTHING ELSE BUT THAT ONE ENTRANCE. BY THE WAY, THAT IS WHY WE ARE AT 49 LOTS THAT WERE VERY CLEAR TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS BETWEEN 30 AND 50 AS THE GENTLEMAN JUST MENTIONED. HAVING SAID THAT, EVEN THAT 64 RIGHT OF WAY, THERE'S ALREADY A CLEAR LETTER WRITTEN BY THE STAFF, BLESSED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE EMS SAYING, AS LONG AS YOU COMPLY WITH THOSE THREE CONDITIONS SPELLED OUT IN THE LETTER WRITTEN IN JUNE OF 2021. IF YOU DO THAT, THAT WILL QUALIFY FOR A BOULEVARD. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M HERE TO ASK. WHAT WAS WRITTEN TWO YEARS BACK, IF THAT CAN BE APPLIED, THEN EVERYTHING CAN GO FORWARD. THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO WORK. WE CAN PREPARE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH WILL OBVIOUSLY GO TO P AND Z, GET THEIR APPROVAL AND THEN COME BACK TO OTHER PRELIMINARY PLAT. NOW, THE LAST POINT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WE OFFERED AND THERE IS A PICTORIAL ATTACHED TO THIS AS WELL. IF YOU GO THROUGH TWO SLIDES FORWARD, IF YOU WILL. ACTUALLY, I CAN SEE IT. YOU JUST PASSED IT. THAT PICTURE COMING UP RIGHT AFTER THAT. >> THE LAST ONE? >> YEAH. RIGHT THERE. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE AT OUR EXPENSE HAVE OFFERED TO BUILD A DRIVEWAY ADJACENT TO THAT DRIVEWAY SO THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN PARK AT OUR EXPENSE AND SO THEY DON'T STILL LOSE THEIR ABILITY TO PARK AN EXTRA CAR, WHICH AGAIN WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE RIGHT OF THE ANY WAY TO BEGIN WITH, BUT WE'VE DECIDED TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE LOSS, WHATEVER THAT MEANS EXACTLY. BUT WE WILL BUILD IT AT OUR EXPENSE SO THAT THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH THAT. WE HAVE REACHED OUT THROUGH THE HOA TO MEET WITH THIS OWNER AND SAID I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH YOU AND WE CAN RESOLVE IT. I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THAT. I HAVE A TEXT HERE CONFIRMING THAT THAT PERSON HAS MY NUMBER. OBVIOUSLY, I DIDN'T GET THE NUMBER BECAUSE I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET IT. BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THAT PERSON HAS MY NUMBER TO REACH OUT TO ME IF THEY WANT TO. BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD AND THIS HAS BEEN ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF. I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ORDINANCES, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HOA, AND GOING BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE TRIED TO EVEN REACH OUT TO THEM. THAT IS OUR LAST HOPE. IF WE DON'T GET THIS DONE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO IT BEYOND ON THIS PROPERTY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> YEAH. A REAL QUICK QUESTION. IF I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING A SECOND AGO, YOU TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY SECURING ANOTHER ACCESS POINT? >> WE'RE TRYING, BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO. >> ARE YOU TRYING TO? >> WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE, BUT FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS WE'VE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL, SO I CANNOT SIT HERE AND SAY WE'RE ALREADY SUCCESSFUL EVEN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. >> THAT'S FINE. MY QUESTION IS I GUESS MORE INTENDED FOR A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS IF YOU WERE TO OBTAIN A SECOND ENTRANCE, DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR DEVELOPMENT? WILL YOU DECREASE THE FONT SIZES? >> WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT TIME. RIGHT NOW I CANNOT ANSWER BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WILL MEAN. ONCE WE KNOW THE DETAILS OF THAT IF RIGHT NOW OUR PRIMARY PATH IS THIS PATH. >> IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN MY OPINION. IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IF YOU ARE GOING TO STICK TO A 100-FOOT LOT WITH 147-FOOT DEPTH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. IF YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'RE GOING TO OBTAIN A SECOND ENTRANCE AT A LATER TIME AND BASICALLY, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A SWITCH AND BAIT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE COULD POTENTIALLY LEAVE A LOOPHOLE FOR THERE TO BE A SWITCH AND BAIT. THEN DOES IT GO AGAINST OUR AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY ENTERING INTO RIGHT NOW? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO STAY TRUE TO YOUR 140-FOOT FRONTS, OR IF YOU WERE SOMEHOW SUCCESSFUL IN OBTAINING A SECOND ENTRANCE, YOU WOULD SEEK TO MAKE A GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL 80-FOOT LOT? >> WHAT I CAN SAY RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW IS THAT MY CURRENT PLAN IS TO GO WITH THIS PLAN. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING ALL OUR EFFORTS IF THIS CONCEPT PLAN IS APPROVED, WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAN WITH THAT CONCEPT PLAN WITH 49 LOTS, 100 FOOT LOTS. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO, WE'RE NOT WORKING FOR ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT. >> BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW. I LIKE THAT CONCEPT. I FEEL LIKE IT'S AT LEAST MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BOUGHT INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY HAVE, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ALL OF A SUDDEN A TOTALLY SEPARATE IDENTITY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. [02:05:05] I KNOW THIS WILL BE UNIQUE IN ITS OWN WAY, BUT IT WILL HAVE MANY OF THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LARGE DEVELOPED TREES, LARGER LOTS, ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT IF YOU WERE TO COME IN AND SWITCH ON US, THEN I'M NOT GOING TO FEEL AS COMFORTABLE AND THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. >> AGAIN, I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ON MY TABLE AND WHICH IS THIS IS THE CURRENT PLAN AND THAT IS 49 LOTS WITH A SINGLE ENTRANCE. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. >> MY QUESTION IS FOR KYLE OR OTIS. CAN WE DECIDE TO LEAVE THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD AS IT IS AND SAY, COME WITH YOUR 49 HOUSES? >> I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT IF THE CONCEPT PLAN WERE APPROVED THIS EVENING, HE WOULD COME WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT WOULD HAVE THE MIRROR OF THIS PLAN. DURING THAT TIME WE WILL NOTICE PROPERLY THE DEVIATION OF VARIANCE AND THEN THE COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER THAT THERE IS DURING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCESS FOR THAT WIDTH THAT WE'RE WRAPPING. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MOVE IT TO A FORMAL ACTION. IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S BEEN IN CONVERSATION OF THE CONCEPT AND IT WAS NEVER PRESENTED AS A CONCEPT PLAN. BUT YOU HAVE A CORRECT GUESS, THAT SAME WIDTH WOULD CARRY ON THROUGH. >> NOT WHAT'S PRESENTED, LIKE WHAT IS CURRENTLY PHYSICALLY LAID ON THE GROUND NOW? >> THE WIDTH OF THE RIGHT AWAY OR THE WIDTH OF THE LOT? [OVERLAPPING] >> THE STREET AS IT IS RIGHT NOW? >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STREET ENTRANCE. >> THE STREET ACCESS CONCEPT WOULD REMAIN. >> NO. >> THE PAVEMENT WIDTH IS OUT THERE NOW, HAS TO BE WIDENED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS. >> IT HAS TO BE [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE WHITE PAVEMENT CHAPTER NOW WHAT, 28 FEET BACK TO BACK, 27 FEET BACK-TO-BACK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> WE CAN AS A COUNCIL OVERRIDE THAT. >> THE DESIGN OF IT WOULD BE THE 48 FEET. >> WE CAN OVERRIDE THAT WIDTH. >> WHICH IS 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY'LL NEED 48. >> THEN THERE'S A SIDEWALK IN CONSIDERATION ALSO. >> YEAH. NO MATTER WHAT, IT CAN'T STAY ITS ORIGINAL WIDTH. >> IT'LL STAY 28. >> IT'S MODIFIED. >> I DON'T THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE COMFORTABLE. THAT WAS JUST ONE LANE BASICALLY. >> IT WILL OPEN A CAN OF WORMS IF WE ALLOW THIS BOULEVARD ENTRY AND THEY DO FIND A SECOND ENTRY, THEN THEY CAN COME BACK WITH 50-FOOT LOTS. >> OR YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION OF THE CONCEPT PLAN SUBJECT TOO. >> WE CANNOT ACCEPT IT [OVERLAPPING] >> THE CONCEPT PLAN IS THIS SPECIFICALLY AND ONLY THIS [OVERLAPPING]. >> THIS CAN'T CHANGE. >> THAT'S IT. RIGHT THERE. >> IF I COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND THIS GOES AWAY. >> HE STARTS FROM SCRATCH. >> COUNCIL, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THIS IS JUDITH. [OVERLAPPING] >> JUDITH IS ON HER PHONE. >> I'M SORRY. JUDITH IS SPEAKING. >> JUDITH, GO AHEAD. >> I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT THE CONCEPT PLAN IS ALSO SUBJECT TO SECTION 212-09 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH IS ALSO THE SHOT CLOCK. JUST AS IN A PLAT APPROVAL, YOU'RE LIMITED TO THE SAME THING ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU EITHER APPROVE IT, YOU DISAPPROVE, OR YOU APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO DO IS APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS AND THOSE CONDITIONS COULD ADDRESS WHATEVER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MAY SAY ABOUT THE NECESSARY WIDTH, BUT I THINK I'VE ALSO HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE APPROVING THIS CONCEPT PLAN. YOU ARE NOT APPROVING A CONCEPT PLAN WITH 80-FOOT LOTS. I'M REST ASSURED THAT WHAT YOU APPROVE AS YOU SEE IT, IS WHAT NEEDS TO GO FORWARD OR THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE ACTION. >> HE WOULD START OVER IT. THIS IS NOT CHANGED. [BACKGROUND] >> I JUST WORRY HE WENT THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF WIDENING THE LOTS TO 100 FOOT TO RESPECT THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD ON HERITAGE, OAK AND WESTERN. BUT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A MONSTROSITY OF A ROAD INSIDE OF THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. YES. BUT THIS IS THE ONLY SOLVING A PROBLEM FOR HIM. IT'S NOT SOLVING AN EXISTING TRAFFIC PROBLEM FOR RESIDENTS. THIS THIS IS FOR A DEVELOPER. WE'RE TAKING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR A DEVELOPER. [02:10:01] >> IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE FOR A DEVELOPER? >> HOW MANY IS FOR FUTURE HOMES UP? STRANGELY ENOUGH, WHEN I LIVED IN PEARLAND IT WAS ALMOST THE EXACT LAYOUT OF THIS. [LAUGHTER] I WAS THE LOT THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM. I BUILT A HOUSE IN A MASTERPLAN SUBDIVISION THAT WAS ON THAT CORNER, AND BEHIND ME STAYED VACANT FOR ALMOST EIGHT YEARS. >> SOMEBODY'S GOT TO USE IT. >> WATCH OUT JASON. [LAUGHTER] BUT THAT WAS THAT LOT. ANYWAY, WHEN I PURCHASED THIS LOT, I ALWAYS KNEW THAT THERE WAS A STUBBED OUT ROAD WHICH MADE ME BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS A POTENTIAL THAT SOMEBODY WOULD EVENTUALLY DEVELOP. I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ON NOTICE, LIKE YOU'RE LITERALLY ARE NEXT TO A STUBBED OUT ROAD. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS THERE. >> IT'S THERE. >> IT'S THERE. >> ALSO, WE HAVE TO LOOK BACK TO WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED OUT. THERE WASN'T A SECOND ENTRANCE PLAN, BUT IT WAS TAKEN AWAY. THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS ROAD HAS A WIDTH BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A PLAN WITH A SECOND ENTRANCE. WHEN THAT SECOND ENTRANCE BEING TAKEN AWAY, IT LIMITED THE USE OF THIS LOT AND THE HOMEOWNER OR THIS LANDOWNER'S LOT. >> IT WOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN ABOUT 30 HOMES WITH THE ORIGINAL PLOT. YOU CAN PULL UP THE CAT AND SEE IT STILL HAS IT SHOWN. >> BUT DID IT HAVE A SECOND ENTRANCE? >> IT WOULD HAVE LOOPED AROUND. >> GOTTEN NORTH. >> BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN OVER 30 HOMES SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO WIDEN THE ROAD. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ONLY COMMUNITY IN OUR CITY THAT HAS THIS WEIRD WIDENED ROAD IN IT. >> BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT TO THE NORTH OF YOU AS WELL WITH HERITAGE COURT BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THERE WASN'T A HOUSE ON THE FRONT EDGE OF THAT THEY WERE WHEN THEY BUILT HERITAGE COURT, THEY WERE ABLE TO PUT THAT WITHIN THEM. BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING IN FRONT OF IT. >> CHRIS, I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW SECONDS. >> THERE NEVER WAS A SECOND ENTRANCE THERE. RIGHT AWAY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WAS GOING OVER TO RICHARD WILLIE'S LAND. WE STILL ON THAT AT THE TIME, AND IT WAS GOING OVER TO HIS HOUSE, IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A SECOND ACCESS BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED HIM WITH THAT DENSITY WE PUT IN. BUT LET ME JUST CLEAR, THE HOA IS FINE WITH THIS PLAN. THE LOT SIZE, THE DENSITY AND THE LDC, THOSE REQUIREMENT FOR A TREE PRESERVATION PLAN. IF YOU HAVE AERAGES TREES ON A DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE TO PRESENT THAT. I DON'T THINK ANY DEVELOPERS DONE IT YET, BUT IT'LL HAVE TO BE DONE ESTABLISHING INTERESTS AS WELL. BUT THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN IS GOING TO IDENTIFY EVERY TREE THAT HAS TO STAY, EVERY TREE THAT THEY PLAN ON REMOVING. [NOISE] >> SURE. >> AS FAR AS THE RIGHT OF WAY, 28 FOOT OF PAVEMENT, THAT IS ALL OVER TOWN. SEESAW CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU, YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ERIK NORTH, YOU CAN LOOK ALL OVER THAT HAVE HIGHER DENSITIES WITH 28 FOOT OF PAVEMENT. TO WHAT MS. DANIEL SAID, THIS WOULD BE NO LESS OF AN INTEREST ANYWHERE ELSE. IN FACT, YOU CAN GO TO A RIVERWOOD RANCH OR GO TO GREEN TRAILS. THEY HAVE 14 FEET OF PAVEMENT. WHEN YOU GO THERE ANY EVENING, THERE'S CARS PARKED IN BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. YOU HAVE 14 FEET LEFT. THIS IS 28 FEET OF UNENCUMBERED ROAD, SO MAKING A BOULEVARD ENTRANCE DOESN'T SOLVE ANYTHING. AS YOU ALL SAID, THERE'S ONLY ONE DRIVEWAY ON IT. IF YOU PUT UP A COUPLE OF NO PARKING SIGNS, YOU EVEN HAVE THE WIDEST ENTRANCE OF ANY OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, EVERYONE YOU HAVE HAS MORE ENCUMBRANCE THAN THIS ACCESS WILL. THE DEVELOPMENT AS IS DRAWN, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. LIKE I SAID, THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN WILL GIVE US DETAIL THAT WE DON'T HAVE AND THAT'S REQUIRED WHEN YOU SUBMIT A PRELIMINARY, SO WE'LL GET TO SEE THAT, BUT THERE'S NO REASON TO IMPACT EITHER ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WITH A BOULEVARD ENTRANCE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET JUST AS MUCH ACCESS. WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU CAN GO BACK AND SOMEWHERE SOME TIMES, THERE'S NOT ACCIDENTS THAT BLOCK UP PEOPLE FROM GETTING INTO ERIK NORTH, GETTING INTO PARTS OF RANCHO, GETTING IN OTHER PLACES, GREEN TRAILS OR ANY OF THESE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS. WHETHER YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT, I DON'T KNOW THERE'S REQUIRED. I WOULD ASSUME YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO LEAVE IT AS IT IS, BUT JUST PLACE NO PARKING SIGNS. BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE VERY FEW PLACES THAT INNER SUBDIVISION THAT YOU DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE HOUSES WITH DRIVEWAYS ON THEM. [02:15:02] THEY COULD CREATE ANY PROBLEM, BUT THIS ONE IS UNIQUE. WE'LL SEE THAT GOING TO A WIDER STREET IS GOING TO REALLY HELP ANYTHING. >> GREAT. THANK YOU, CHRIS. >> THANK YOU. >> FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, IN ORDER FOR A FIRE TRUCK TO GET TO THIS SPOT, THAT FIRE TRUCK HAS TWO OTHER PLACES TO ACCESS THIS ENTIRE SUBDIVISION, EITHER OFF WESTERN AVENUE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WIDTH OF THAT ENTRANCE ROAD IS. >> MAYBE 20. >> BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT 28 FEET. OR COMING OFF ANCHOR ROAD, BUT THE ONE LANE ROAD IN WITH THE MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE. I BROUGHT THIS UP PRIOR TO THE NIGHT THAT TO REQUIRE AN ENORMOUS BOULEVARD ENTRANCE INTO A 49 LOT SUBDIVISION BEFORE EXCEEDS WHAT WAS BEEN APPROVED BY CITY AND WHAT'S BEING USED TODAY TO GET INTO THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. IT FOLLOWS A SIGN LIKE WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO DOT THIS EYE. IF YOU CAN'T GET INTO THE SUBDIVISION IN A 20 FEET WIDE STREET, WELL YOU'RE STUCK, BUT YOU CAN. >> IT'S ABOUT 17 FEET ON BOTH ENTRANCES. [LAUGHTER] VERSUS 28 FEET. THAT IS CURRENTLY THE WIDTH OF WHISPERING OAKS. >> THAT WOULD LEAVE 14, 14. DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A CAR ON ONE SIDE, FIRE TRUCKS TRYING TO COME IN. >> WE HAVE TO ALWAYS PLAN THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE BREAKING THE LAW [INAUDIBLE] >> YES. >> PUT YOUR SIGNS THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW. >> IT HAPPENS DOWN, BRIAN, ALL THE TIME. THERE'S NO PARKING SIGNS AND THERE'S PEOPLE PARKED IN THE ROAD HALF THE TIME. >> MEANING IT'S ON ONE SIDE MOST LIKELY. I THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROBABLY WILL KNOW ITS RIGHTS TO JUST KNOW YOU'RE A CAR OWNER [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] >> IF I'M DRIVING THE FIRE TRUCK AND I NEED TO GET IN THAT STREET SOMEBODY'S CAR IS GOING TO GET DAMAGE. >> IT'S DEMOLITION. [LAUGHTER] >> NOT PRETTY BAD DAMAGE, BUT IT'S GOING TO GET OUT OF THE WAY. >> I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU. [LAUGHTER] THERE ARE SOME CONSEQUENCES AS I SPOKE EARLIER, THERE'S GOING TO BE CONSEQUENCES IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES. >> COUNCIL, DO I HAVE ANY ACTION? >> I'M SURE HE WOULD BE FINE WITH LEAVING THE 28TH FOOT. >> MONEY SAVED, RIGHT? >> MAY I SPEAK? >> YES SIR. >> IT'S BAKER WITH BAKER & AUSTIN. IF YOU ALL WANT TO APPROVE THIS AS IS, WE CAN COME BACK WITH A VARIANCE TO GO BACK TO THE ROADWAY AS IT IS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, RATHER THAN BUILDING THE 48 FOOT WIDE ROADWAY. BUT WE NEED SOME APPROVAL FOR HIM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING. I DON'T WANT TO MUDDLE THE WATERS. MAYBE MUDDLING THE WATER, IS JUST SAYING OKAY, LET'S APPROVE AS IT IS. I DON'T KNOW, BUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING. OF COURSE WE WOULD PREFER AND I AGREE, WE HAVE SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE 60 AND 70 LOTS WITH A 28 FOOT ENTRANCE THROUGHOUT TOWN AND A FIRE TRUCK CERTAINLY CAN JUMP THE CURVE AND GO ON THE GRASS INSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY. BUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IF IT'S POSSIBLE. >> THERE WOULD BE ROLLOVER CURVES COMING IN AT THE ENTRY FOR EMERGENCY PERSONNEL? >> YEAH, THEY'RE NOT THERE NOW, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. >> IF YOU WERE TO LEAVE AT 28 FOOT, AS IS, WE CAN MAKE THE EXISTING CURVES ROLLOVER SO THEY CAN JUMP THE CURB IF NEEDED AS WELL. WE ARE OPEN EITHER WAY, 28/48. BUT AS DOUG SAID, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE SO WE CAN GO BACK INTO DETAILED DESIGN TO GET INTO SOME CONCRETE IN FRONT OF YOU. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONCEPT PLAN CONDITIONED ON THE ROAD ENTERING INTO WHISPERING OAKS TO BE 28 FEET. AS PRESENTLY FIGURE WITH ROLLOVER CURVES. >> NO PARKING SIGNS. >> NO PARKING SIGNS IN A MAXIMUM OF 49 LOTS. AS CURRENTLY LAID OUT BEFORE US TODAY. >> I SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR [02:20:01] WHISPERING OAKS SUBDIVISION WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS THAT IT'S NO MORE THAN 49 LOTS. IT HAS ROLLOVER CURVES, HAS NO THE PARKING SIGNS AND THE WIDTH IS 28. THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION OF 28 FEET. >> ROLLOVER CURVES ON WHISPERING OAKS DRIVE ENTRANCE ROAD. >> AGREED. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU ALL. [LAUGHTER] >> THANKS FOR STAYING. [LAUGHTER] >> FEELS GOOD. >> THAT BRINGS US TO THE LAST ITEM OF ADJOURNMENT AND WE WILL ADJOURN COUNCIL MEETING AT 8:21 PM. [NOISE] * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.