>> ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND WELCOME TO OUR CITY OF [00:00:05] ANGLETON COUNCIL MEETING DATED WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY THE 15TH, 2023. IT IS 6:01. WE DO HAVE A FULL QUORUM PRESENT, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL US TO ORDER. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US. TYPICALLY WE WOULD'VE MET LAST NIGHT, BUT SINCE IT WAS HEART DAY, WE DECIDED TO MOVE IT, LET STAFF OFF, AND LET US HAVE AN EVENING WITH OUR FAMILIES. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING IT TONIGHT. NORMALLY ITS ON A TUESDAY NIGHT, BUT TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING PATIENT AND WORKING WITH US. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. WE HAVE A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN INVOCATION. I'LL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. >> MR. BOOTH, IF YOU COULD DO THE HONORS. >> PLEASE RISE. >> THE UNITED STATE OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> WE PRAY WITH YOU PLEASE. LORD, WE GIVE YOU PRAISE TODAY FOR WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOU HAVE CALLED US TO BE. FATHER, WE ASK YOU TONIGHT TO BE OUR GUIDE, BE OUR WISDOM. FATHER, HELP US TO MAKE CORRECT DECISIONS, DECISIONS THAT ARE PLEASING TO YOU AND GREAT FOR THE CITY. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR OUR TOWN. WE THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE, WORK FOR THE CITY, THE PEOPLE WHO GUARD US AND PROTECT US FATHER. THANK YOU FOR THEM AND PROTECT THEM. LEAD US AND GUIDE US TONIGHT. LORD, WE LOVE YOU. IN CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. >>AMEN. >>THANK YOU, MR. BOOTH. >> THAT BRINGS US TO THE PART OF OUR AGENDA, [CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL] IF CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. EXCUSE ME. TYPICALLY, FOLKS SIGN UP. THEY CAN GO TO THE PODIUM CALLED UP ONE-BY-ONE. LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY HERE IS WANTING TO DISCUSS ABOUT A TOPIC TONIGHT WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA. SO YOU CAN HAVE THE OPTION IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP NOW OR COME UP WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT PARTICULAR ITEM COME UP. SO IF I ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME, IF YOU CAN JUST TELL ME YOUR WAY OR YOU WANT TO GO AND COME ON UP, COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM, WE HAVE A FEW MOMENTS, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SO THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS MISS NINA ROZELL, YOU'LL WAIT? >> CAN I GO AHEAD. >> YES, MA'AM. >> WHAT'D YOU SAY, YOU NEEDED THE NAME AND ADDRESS? >>YES, JUST YOUR NAME AND STREET ADDRESS, MA'AM. >> NINA ROZELL, 1915 COUNTY ROAD, 660 AND DANBERRY. >> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE JUST ASKING THAT THE LAND THAT'S OUT THERE ON SHANKS ROAD AND 220 THAT IT JUST BE REZONED. IT'S A LITTLE OVER THREE ACRES AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT COMMERCIAL. >> SO YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF? >> THAT'S IT. [OVERLAPPING] >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 11. ALEJANDRO, CAN'T YOU? GO AHEAD AND COME ON UP IF YOU'D LIKE. >> HOW'S EVERYBODY TONIGHT? I JUST WANTED TO COME PRESENT TO YOU ALL MY BUSINESS PLAN TODAY AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THE TATTOO SHOP OPEN HERE IN ANGLETON. >> I GOT IT. >> YES. >> SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE FOR IT, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND LAST ONE WE HAVE ITEMWISE, IT'S ITEM NUMBER 12. YOU'LL WAIT? OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THAT'LL FINISH UP OUR CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. [CONSENT AGENDA] WE'LL GO ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I HAVE TO READ ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON HERE. IT'S ITEM NUMBER 1, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230215001, DIRECTING THE FINANCE DIRECTOR TO OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT FOR THE GREEN TRAILS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AT FIRST STATE BANK AND APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING DESIGNATED PERSON WHO WILL ACT AS SIGNATORIES AT FIRST STATE BANK. ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230213-002, DECLARING PROPERTY SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF SURPLUS PROPERTY, LATTER ONE. ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230215-003 FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM UPDATE PROJECT. NUMBER 4, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230215-004, SUPPORTING AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF PORTABLE RED LIGHTS FOR ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT. ITEM NUMBER 5, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230215-005 ON AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION [00:05:01] OF A GENERAL VICTIM ASSISTANCE GRANT TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION TO FIND A CRIME VICTIMS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. NUMBER 6, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230215-006 ON APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING A JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY, TEXAS FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION ON MAY 6, 2023. NUMBER 7, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT. NUMBER 8, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE RENEWAL OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT PROSECUTORS AGREEMENT. AND LAST, NUMBER 9, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 2023 OYSTER CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, ALSO KNOWN AS WWTP, TEXAS POLLUTION DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM, ALSO KNOWN AS TPDES PERMIT RENEWAL. COUNCIL. >> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE ADOPT CONSENT ON AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> I WOULD ASK TO PULL NUMBER 7. >> ASK TO PULL NUMBER 7. >> I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO PULL NUMBER 7. >> I HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION AND I WAS SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND. ANY FURTHER QUESTION? >> JUST QUICKLY, ON ITEM NUMBER 6 ABOUT THE ELECTION, DO WE NEED ANY KIND OF LANGUAGE STATING THE RESOLUTION BE CONTINGENT UPON WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE AN ELECTION? WE MAY NOT. >> WE DID HAVE A CANDIDATE SUBMIT A CANDIDATE APPLICATION. [OVERLAPPING] >.> OKAY. >> I STILL HAVE TO REVIEW THE FORMS. >> I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSING, SAME SIGN. THE MOTION CARRIES ARE THOSE CONSENT ITEMS. WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER 7, [7. Discussion and possible action on the 2022 Racial Profiling Report.] DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT. >> GO AHEAD, CHIEF >>GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BY LAW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT TO 2022 RACIAL PROFILE REPORT. THIS YEAR WE HIRED DEL CARMEN CONSULTING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RACIAL PROFILING REPORT IS COMPLETE AND CONCISE. ACTUALLY, ALEX, DR. ALICE DEL CARMEN ACTUALLY HELPED WRITE TO SANDRA BLAND ACT. SHE IS VERY PRECISE AND YOU HAVE 70 SOME ODD PAGE REPORT ON OUR REPORT TO YOU. IT STARTED WITH EDUCATION, SO WE EDUCATED ALL OF OUR SUPERVISORS ON WHAT TO PUT IN BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE ANY OTHER THING, YOU PUT YOUR GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT. SO WE HAVE NOT BEEN CORRECT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. SO EDUCATION FACTOR HELPED US. AND DR. DEL CARMEN AND HIS STAFF WENT OVER THE REPORT AND WENT OVER OUR STATS AND HELPED US AND GUIDED US THROUGH TO WHERE WE HAVE A CORRECT RACIAL PROFILE REPORT TO REPORT TO YOU. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> JEBB, SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, WHAT WERE THE RESULTS? >>THE RESULT'S WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WE'RE IN WITHIN ALL THE REGULAR NORMAL NORMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. NOTHING IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY. >> THANK YOU, SIR. FOR THE PUBLIC, THIS REPORT IS MADE AVAILABLE. IT IS ONLINE ON OUR AGENDA PACKET. IS IT GOING TO BE ANYWHERE ELSE [OVERLAPPING]? >> IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE AS WELL. >> IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO REVIEW THAT, IT'LL BE MADE READILY AVAILABLE ONLINE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I BELIEVE WE WILL NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. >> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE THE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT. >> I'LL SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOULSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU CHIEF. >> THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [10. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, possible action on Ordinance No. 20230215-010 to approve rezoning approximately 3.35 acres from the Planned Development District (PD) to C-G, Commercial General Zoning District, for property located on the west side of the Shanks Road extension, at the intersection of CR220, Angleton, TX, Brazoria County.] >> THAT WRAPS UP OUR CONSENT ITEMS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 10, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-0215-010, TO APPROVE REZONING APPROXIMATELY 3.35 ACRES FROM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, ALSO KNOWN AS PD, TO CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SHANKS ROAD EXTENSION AT THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 220 ANGLETON TEXAS, MISSOURI COUNTY. MR. OTIS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS, OF COURSE, A PUBLIC HEARING AND ACTION ITEM. I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE CASE FACTS AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TOWARD THE PUBLIC HEARING IF IT'S OKAY. [00:10:03] >> YES, SIR. >> THIS IS A PETITION FOR A REZONING OF LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONE PD, WHICH IS OUR PLANNED DISTRICT HOLDING DISTRICT IN THE MOST SOUTHERN SECTOR OF THE CITY WHERE THE SHANKS ROAD CONNECTION ACTUALLY INTERSECTS WITH COUNTY ROAD 220. NINA VAZIL, WHO YOU MET EARLIER, IS PETITIONING TO HAVE HER 3.35 ACRES REZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USES. WE TOOK THIS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. THE PARTICULAR SITE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS RECOMMENDED FOR ACTUALLY MOBILE HOME OR MANUFACTURED HOME COMMUNITY. STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF PROPERTIES SUCH AS THIS, WHICH FRONTAL AND THE MAJOR ARTERIOLES WITHIN THE CITY TO BE REZONED TO CG COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. WE WOULD SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION [NOISE] FOR A POSITIVE REZONING. SHE HAS NO PLANS FOR THIS COMMERCIAL GENERAL USE, SO IT WOULD FOLLOW THE PLANNING PROCESS AND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IN THE FUTURE IF, THEY WERE SO REZONED. WE DID ADVERTISE IN THE PUBLIC NEWSPAPER AND NOTIFIED ALL INDIVIDUALS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY. YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH ACTIVITY IN THIS AREA IN TERMS OF LAND-USE APPLICATIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT BRIEF, SIR. NOW THAT BRINGS US AFTER THE BRIEF IT TO A PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES, AND WE'RE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 10, PLEASE ORDERLY GO TO THE PODIUM AND EVERYBODY RUSHED THE SAME TIME. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. IF YOU WANT, GO TO THE PODIUM TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT PERSON. ANYONE? THIS IS. [OVERLAPPING] >> CAN I ADDRESS MS. ROSWELL? >> SURE. [BACKGROUND] YEAH. GO AHEAD. >> MR. OTIS BRIGGS STATED THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW OR HAVE AN INTENTION HOW TO USE THIS PROPERTY. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THEN MY QUESTION IS WHY THE REZONING JUST GENERALLY? WHY NOW AS OPPOSED TO LATER? [OVERLAPPING] >> WE WERE TOLD THAT IF WE WANTED TO SELL THE LAND, THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER IF IT WERE REZONED COMMERCIAL. BECAUSE MY BROTHER AND I HAVE IT AT 50 PERCENT INTEREST UNDIVIDED AND WE JUST SOLD. THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR IT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. ROSWELL. [NOISE] ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? GOING ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES COUNCIL. >> MR. MAYOR, MAY WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE HAVE NOW CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW WE'RE INTO OUR DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION. >> I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND WAS MENTIONING WAS THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO OFF OF VALDEZ WITHOUT ONE PROPERTY WHERE IT HAD BEEN REZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL A LONG TIME AGO AND NOBODY KNEW WHY. THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WERE ABOUT TO DO HERE, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THIS IS A LOT OF FRONTAGE ROAD ON 220, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY'RE TELLING YOU TO REZONE IT TO THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL. BUT COMMERCIAL GENERAL IS ALSO THE MOST FLEXIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT WANTS TO GO IN OVER THERE. WE'RE GOING FROM A PD WHERE WE HAVE SOME CONTROL TO A COMMERCIAL GENERAL, WHERE WE DON'T. IF IT MEETS IT'S THERE. THE ONE THING I WAS GOING TO ASK IS WHAT WAS THE VOTE IN P&Z? IT WASN'T [OVERLAPPING] >> 6-0. >> SIX IN THE REGULAR PROCEEDINGS. YES, SIR. >> I JUST SAW THAT THEY WERE IN FAVOR, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THE VOTE. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE ARE SOME OUTLYING YEARS, AS I MENTIONED LAST MEETING WHICH ARE ZONE PD. THERE'S NOT A PARTICULAR ORDINANCE ATTACHED TO IT. TYPICALLY, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DEVELOP ON THAT PROPERTY, THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPETITION FOR AN ACTUAL ZONING OF THE PROPERTY. >> AS A PD? >> YES. [OVERLAPPING] I EXPLAIN TYPICALLY, PD WOULD MEAN PLANNED DISTRICT AND THERE'S A PLAN ATTACHED AND COORDINATES, [00:15:02] BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN HELD AS AG UNTIL SUCH TIME BUT UNFORTUNATELY, NO. >> DIDN'T WE JUST TAKE ACTION COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO TO MOVE THE PROPERTY TO ITS NORTH? >> THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL TRACK OF THIS IN WHICH THE GENTLEMAN OPTED TO DEVELOP IT ONLY FOR AG AND THEN YOU REZONE SOMETHING JUST EAST OF THIS FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALONG THE FRONTAGE. YES. >> WE'RE TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND IN THE FUTURE HERE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. I THINK WE'LL BE CONSISTENT IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL COMMERCIAL QUARTER TO TRY TO NUMBER ONE ATTRACT QUALITY COMMERCIAL, AND THEN LOOK AT ACCESS MANAGEMENT OR OUR TYPICAL IMPACTS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT GOES IN AN ORDERLY FASHION. >> DO WE ALSO LOOK AT THE ABANDONMENT OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF THE OLD SHANKS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE? >> NOTHING NEEDS TO BE ADDED. THE PROPER RIGHT AWAY IS DEDICATE IT FOR SHANKS ROAD. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WHAT HAPPENS ALONG COUNTY ROAD 220 IF THEY WERE SO TO ACCESS, BUT CHANCES ARE THEY WILL PROBABLY ACCESS OFF A SHANKS. >> BUT THE OLD SHANKS WHERE IT USED TO COME IN TO 220, [OVERLAPPING] IS THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THAT PIECE RIGHT THERE? >> NO, SIR. THERE'S A PORTION OF IT THAT WAS HELD FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES IN WHICH THERE'S BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT SITE. BUT IN TERMS OF HOW IT TERMINATES TODAY, WE JUST NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT ILLEGAL DUMPING AT THE END OF THE ROAD. >> ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SHANKS, DO WE KNOW IS THAT ZONE FOR RESIDENTIAL? >> IT'S AG NOW. >> IT'S ALL AG? >> THE GENTLEMAN JUST REZONED THE 10 ACRES, THE AG [OVERLAPPING] >> WHERE THE CUL-DE-SAC IS, THAT'S THE. >> THAT'S COMMERCIAL ALONG BUSINESS 288 AND THEN THERE'S SOME INDUSTRIAL AS WELL USES ALONG THAT TRACK. BUT MS. VAZIL'S PROSODY, THE COMMERCIAL WOULD HAVE THAT. YES. >> I'M JUST SAYING, MIGHT HAVE BEEN EASIER TO SEE WHERE IT WOULD FIT WHERE THE OTHER PROPERTIES HAD BEEN DESIGNATED. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF WE KNEW TO THE SOUTH OF IT WAS COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL OR. >> UNFORTUNATELY TO THE SOUTH OF IT IS COUNTY PROPERTY. >> ALL I'M TRYING TO JUST CLEAR UP IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING COMMERCIAL RIGHT NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL, THE SAME ISSUE AS BEFORE. >> IN THIS INSTANCE, THERE'S NO ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. >> WOULD IT HELP IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE A MAP AROUND? >> FOR EVERY REZONING LIKE THIS WILL INCLUDE A MAP. >> WITH THE ZONES AROUND IT. >> JUST HELPS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING [OVERLAPPING] CONTEXTUAL. >> WE WANT TO BE CONSISTENT. >> CONSISTENT. I JUST DON'T WANT US TO BE [OVERLAPPING] >> IN THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 119 IS THE SURROUNDING ZONING, SO IT'S ALL COMMERCIAL, OTHERWISE, YOU HAVE THE PD, WHERE SHE CURRENTLY EXISTS, SO YOU DO HAVE THE SURROUNDING ZONINGS. [NOISE] THEN WE ALSO PROVIDE YOU WITH A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE MAP THAT WOULD ALSO SHOW WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR ALL OF THE SITES. [NOISE] >> CORRECT. MR. MAYOR, MAY WE APPROVE AND ADOPT THE FINAL REPORT AND APPROVE THE ORDINANCE REZONING 3.35 ACRES FROM PD DISTRICT TO THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT AS FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU. MR. OTIS, ON THAT ONE. [11. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, possible action on Ordinance No. 20230215-011 to approve an application for a Special Use Permit (SUP) pursuant to Sec. 28-63 of the Code of Ordinances to consider a request submitted by Seven Souls Tattoo Studio, to allow for a Specific Use Permit for a Tattoo and Body Piercing Studio at the property located at 117 West Myrtle Street, Angleton, TX.] NUMBER 11, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230215-011 TO APPROVE AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, ALSO KNOWN AS SQP, PURSUANT TO SECTION 2863, OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO CONSIDER A REQUEST SUBMITTED BY SEVEN SOULS TATTOO STUDIO TO ALLOW FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING STUDIO HAS THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 117 WEST MYRTLE STREET ANGLETON, TEXAS. OTIS? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'LL INTRODUCE THIS ITEM IN TERMS OF THE BACKGROUND. PROPERTY IS ZONED, CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL IS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. HOWEVER, THE CODE DOES REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO BE APPLIED FOR THE TATTOO AND BODY PIERCINGS STUDIO, WHICH IS BEING REQUESTED ON WEST MYRTLE. WE HAVE OF COURSE, ADVERTISED IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER AND NOTIFIED EVERYONE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY, [00:20:01] THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD ITS PUBLIC HEARING AND HIS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF 6-0 FOR THE USE. I WILL SAY THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID THAT THEY USE IN TERMS OF ASKING SOME VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TATTOO STUDIO, WHICH IS OF COURSE REGULATED BY THE STATE IN TERMS OF LICENSING AND ALSO THEY HAVE TO SATISFY ALL THE HEALTH AND SAFETY REGULATION. A LOT OF THAT WAS HASHED OUT INTO HEARING. THERE WERE ALSO CONCERNS REGARDING HOURS OF OPERATION, AND THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO SECURE SUPPORT FROM THE MAYOR OF LAKE JACKSON IN TERMS OF THEIR FACILITY THAT'S CURRENTLY IN LAKE JACKSON IN TERMS OF THEIR REPUTATION. I THINK MOST OF YOU WERE COPIED ON THAT RECOMMENDATION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO DISCUSSED THE NATURE OF THE USE IN TERMS OF THIS APPROVAL, IF IT WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THAT YOU WOULD PUT A LIMITATION ON EXPLORATION OF THE USE. THAT WAY YOU CAN ACTUALLY REVIEW THE OPERATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO NUISANCES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED IN THE FUTURE AND THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CITY ORDINANCES. STAFF WOULD BRING THIS BACK TO YOU IF IT WERE APPROVED FOR RE-EVALUATION AND CONTINUATION OF THE USE. ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDINANCE FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE COUNCIL, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, AS WELL AS FIVE OTHER CONDITIONS THAT WOULD DEAL WITH ANY IMPACTS, THAT WOULD BE ANY CONCERNS. I'LL HOLD YOU TO THAT IN TERMS OF ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE OF THE COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU, SIR. WE'VE GOT THE BRIEF. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING? >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 11. IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ON FORGETS TO PLEASE THE PODIUM IS YOURS NOW SHOULD AIM TO ADDRESS YOU HAVE A FEW MOMENTS AT THE PODIUM. >> SORRY. MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO CANTU. EVERYBODY CALLS ME D. THIS IS MS. ARIEL LAURA. SHE'LL JUST BE HELPING ME DO MY PRESENTATION. I KNOW I'M JUST SUPPOSED TO SAY IF I'M FOR OR AGAINST [LAUGHTER] BUT I'M IN FOR. [LAUGHTER] >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I'M ARIEL LAURA 57 CRANBERRY COURT IN LAKE JACKSON. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE D CANTU AND SEVEN SOULS TATTOO STUDIO. IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON AS FAR AS GROWTH FOR THE CITY, HE'S HELPED TREMENDOUSLY WITH THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES. ONE THING HE HAS NOT TALKED ABOUT IS ALL OF THE GIFT BOX THAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE 12 MONTHS AT HE'S BEEN IN LAKE JACKSON AND I THINK IT SPEAKS VERY HIGH VOLUMES THAT THE MAYOR OF LAKE JACKSON WAS SO KIND TO GIVE A REFERRAL. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT TONIGHT AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. >> WHEN WE GET TO THE DISCUSSION PHASE, WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU GUYS. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP AGAIN. WE'RE STILL IN A PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE'S ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON OR FOR AGAINST ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES, COUNCIL. >> MOVE CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE'LL GET INTO THE DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL AND STAFF ARE QUESTIONS OF THE POTENTIAL THE OWNER'S OVER THERE. I CAN OPEN IT UP. MR. CANTU D REACH OUT TO ME WHEN THE IDEA CAME, HE WANTED TO COME AND ANKLE TIN HAD A MEETING WITH HIM SEVERAL MONTHS BACK. HAD A BUSINESS PLAN TOLD ME ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE IN LAKE JACKSON. OF COURSE, I TOLD HIM I'D READ IN THE PAPER OR WHAT WAS GOING ON OVER THERE AS WELL, AND A VERY PROFESSIONAL, HIS GENTLEMAN JUST HAD ALL HIS EYES DOTTED, T'S CROSSED IT. I ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT PLANNING IS OWNING US OURS, WHAT'S GOING TO BE INSIDE, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, AND HE WAS ABLE TO TRUST THEM RIGHT OFF THE BAT. HE WAS VERY FORTHCOMING. HE WAS WELL-PREPARED, WAS READY TO SUBMIT HIS ITEMS TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO GET THE BALL ROLLING. I WILL SAY THAT MAN HAS BEEN VERY UPFRONT. [00:25:01] I BELIEVE HE MET WITH BUSINESS OWNERS IN OUR LOCAL DOWNTOWN, HE SOLICITED SOME, I GUESS, INDIVIDUALS TO REACH OUT TO US TO LET US KNOW THEIR PROS AND CONS OR THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE. I DID GET THE EMAIL FROM MAYOR GRABOWSKI AND I WAS IMPRESSED THAT THAT GENTLEMAN REACHED OUT TO US AND TO LET US KNOW THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH SEVEN SOULS AND HOW THE WORKABILITY AND THE PLEASURE THAT IT WAS. THANK YOU, MR. CANTU FOR DOING YOUR HOMEWORK, DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, AND HOPEFULLY MAKING IT A SMOOTH PROCESS FOR YOU AND WITH YOUR NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. ANYBODY ELSE? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >> YES. FEW WEEKS BACK, I JUST DROPPED IN THERE TO CHECK IT OUT AND HAVE A CHAT WITH HIM IN THE FACILITY. VERY PROFESSIONAL, VERY CLEAN FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, JUST GOTTEN VERY HIGH MARKS, PROBABLY SOME OF THE HIGHEST IN THE STATE. THEN ALSO, I LIKED HOW THE ARTISTS HAD THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL AREAS TO WORK AT. IT WAS VERY SECTIONED OFF AND YOU CAN HAVE YOUR PRIVACY IN THERE IF YOU NEED TO. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED. >> WHAT A DIFFERENCE 10 YEARS MAKES? [LAUGHTER] I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. CAN YOU GO EXPLAIN? THANK YOU. TEN YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY CAME AND IT WAS A PACKED CHAMBER AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEAKING AGAINST HIM FOR AND IT'S VERY HEATED, BUT SEEMS TO BE VERY FAVORABLE FOR YOU TONIGHT. QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS AROUND A SUP SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT HAS CONTINGENT TIME LIMITS ON IT. IF WE WERE TO PUT ONE IN FOR A YEAR OR TWO, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE AND NOT THAT WE WILL TAKE IT, BUT JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT? >> AS FAR AS HOW LONG DOES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS THE LAST? >> YES. >> HONESTLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A WHOLE STIGMA AROUND TATTOO SHOPS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ART COULD HAVE WORRIES OR WHATEVER, SO IF IT NEEDS TO BE A YEAR TO WHERE I CAN PROVE MYSELF, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. I WOULD PREFER THREE YEARS OBVIOUSLY, BUT IF IT'S A YEAR, I UNDERSTAND. >> THEN THE PROPERTY ITSELF THAT YOU'RE RENOVATING IN, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLAN? WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR YOU? ARE YOU TRYING TO GET STARTED NEXT WEEK, TOMORROW? >> WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING THE BUILD-OUT NOW. WE SHOULD BE DONE WITHIN THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK OF MARCH. WHAT I'M THINKING RIGHT NOW. THEN WE SHOULD GET STARTED AROUND IT. >> THE PROPERTY OR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN LAKE JACKSON GOING TO BE WORKING AT YOUR SHOP HERE IN ANGLETON OR IS IT GOING TO BE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE? >> BASICALLY, I HAVE A GROUP OF SET ARTISTS THAT'LL SIT THERE IN TATTOO AND THAT'LL BE THEIR HOME SHOP. THEN MY SENIOR ARTISTS ARE MY GUYS, I HAVE 10 OR 5-10 YEARS EXPERIENCE WILL BE INTERCHANGING. >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE HOURS OF OPERATION. WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OPERATION IN LAKE JACKSON? >> THE HOURS OF OPERATION DURING THE WEEK IT IS 10:00 AM TO 08:00 PM. THEN FRIDAY, SATURDAY IS 10:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT. >> IS THAT WORKABLE FOR YOU? >> IT IS. WE WERE REQUESTED THAT IT'D BE THE SAME AS THE OTHER BUSINESS AROUND. I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A FEW THAT CLOSE AT 2:00, SO WE COULD CLOSE AT 2:00, THEN WE WOULD JUST OPEN UP AT NOON AND WORK UNTIL 2:00. >> THAT'S FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS? >> YES, SIR. JUST FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THE REST OF THE WEEK WOULD PROBABLY BE NOON TO 10:00 OR 10:00 AM TO 8:00 PM. >> SUNDAYS? >> SUNDAYS WE'RE CLOSED. WHY I SAY CLOSE SOME OF MY ARTISTS DO WORK BY APPOINTMENT ON SUNDAY ONLY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON. >> I DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS AND TO THE OLD BLUE LAWS, BUT THE OLD BLUE LAWS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK ON SUNDAYS, BUT BASICALLY BEFORE NOON. WILL THAT BE A PROBLEM? >> NO. >> I ASKED THIS BECAUSE I'M TOTALLY EAGER ABOUT THAT DAYS. IS THERE A LICENSING BOARD IN THE STATE THAT REGULATES TATTOOS LIKE BARBERS AND MUTATIONS >> YES AND THEY'RE A LOT HARDER ON. >> THEY COME IN AND ONCE YOU GET YOURSELF ALL SET UP, THEY COME IN AND REVIEW EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, MAKE SURE YOU OBTAIN THE CODE NO. >> YES, SIR. THEY BASICALLY SET UP IT'S LIKE SIX MONTHS TO EIGHT, IF YOU HAVE MARKS OR IF SOMEBODY MAKES A COMPLAINT, THEN THEY HAVE 48 HOURS TO RESPOND, SHOW UP AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE GOT GOING ON. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IF YOU HAVE A MARK, [00:30:03] THEN THEY'LL COME EVERY SIX MONTHS. IF YOU HAVE NO MARKS, THEY COME ONCE A YEAR. >> IN ORDER FOR YOU TO GET STARTED, YOU'VE GOT TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME IN [OVERLAPPING] >> FOR US TO GET STARTED? >> YES. >> NO SIR. >> THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME IN AND INSPECT THE PLACE TO MAKE SURE? >> NO, SIR. THEY DON'T. >> OKAY. DOES THE CITY INSPECT FOR ANYTHING. >> THEIR FIRE MARSHAL NORMALLY COMES IN AND INSPECT FOR. >> OKAY [OVERLAPPING]. >> YES, SIR. >> GARDEN HOSE. >> AT WHAT FREQUENCY IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOING THE INSPECTIONS? >> I'M SORRY. >> AT WHAT FREQUENCY IS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER REGULATES IT THAT PART ARE THEY COMING IN AND DOING INSPECTIONS OR GRADING? >> THEY COME IN AND THEY BASICALLY GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT, MAKE SURE NONE IS OUTDATED, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS PROPERLY PACKAGED AND EVERYTHING'S PROPERLY SEALED. BUT THEY DO GO TO EACH STATION WITH A FLASHLIGHT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS RIGHT. THE ONLY TIME THAT THEY COME IN MORE THAN WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO IS IF THEY GET A CALL. SINCE WE'VE BEEN IN LATE JACKSON, WE'VE HAD ONE INSPECTION FOR THE YEAR AND WE'VE GOT 10. >> GREAT. >> I WANT TO ASK IF MARK, SINCE YOU WENT IN AND CAME BACK WITH A SAMPLE. [LAUGHTER] >> NO, NOT THAT VISIT. [LAUGHTER] >> MS. LAURA SAID YOU HAD WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN BACK TO, JACKSON CAN YOU GIVE US MAYBE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE THAT'S IT REGARDS TO WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO LIKE JACKSON? >> YES, SIR. ACTUALLY HAVE IT LISTED ALREADY, GIVE ME ONE SECOND. >> AWESOME. >> IS IT BECKY? IT WAS RIGHT HERE. WELL, FOR STARTERS, WHILE I FIND THIS PAPER I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY. >> WE DO A FOOD DRIVE. EVERYTHING IS GIVEN. THEN WE DO A FOOD DRIVE EVERYTHING IS GIVEN WHERE WE RAFFLE OFF A TATTOO TO WHOEVER ENDS WINNING THE RAFFLE AND WE DONATE THE FOOD TO THE LOCAL FOOD BANKS. DURING THE CHRISTMAS, WE DO TOYS FOR TAD'S OR WE CALL IT TOYS FOR TAD'S. SAME CONCEPT. WE DO A RAFFLE FOR $500 TATTOO, THIS YEAR 2023, WE DID A $300 GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR WEST COLUMBIA FIRE DEPARTMENT THE FUNDRAISER, THE PASADENA TATTOO RELIEF. WE DID I THINK, DID WE DO TWO TATTOOS OR THIS ONE ON THAT ONE. >> JUST ONE >> JUST ONE, OKAY. IN MARCH, WE DID A FUNDRAISER FOR CANCER. IT SAYS HERE VARIOUS TATTOOS GIVEAWAYS. A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS, SO WHEN YOU LOSE SOMEBODY AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO HELP WITH THE FUNERAL OR WHATEVER WILL GIVE AWAY TATTOOS FOR LIKE SIGHT AUCTIONS TO HELP RAISE MONEY. WE DID A BUNCH OF THOSE THIS YEAR. I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER ON THOSE BECAUSE EACH ONE OF MY ARTISTS DOES IT, INCLUDING MY PIERCERS, AND WE HAVE TO DO BACK-TO-SCHOOL DRIVE TO HELP PARENTS GET STUFF FOR KIDS. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> I'VE SPOKEN TO DOZENS OF PEOPLE OVER THE LAST MONTH AS SOON AS I KNEW THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN COMING FORWARD AND I WOULD SAY IT'S BEEN 95% POSITIVE, IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE, I'VE SPOKEN TO NEIGHBORS, BUSINESSES STAFFERS NOT LIKE CLOSE TO WHERE HE'S GOING TO BE AT, BUT OTHERS IN THE AREA, PASTORS, YOUTH PASTORS, BASKETBALL AND ASK PEOPLE. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT TATTOO PARLORS [LAUGHTER] I WOULD SAY, THIS IS GOOD. THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND THEN I RECEIVED FROM EVERYONE I SPOKE TO. >> AWESOME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> UNLIKE JOHN DID SAY 10 YEARS AGO WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT TABLE. [LAUGHTER] JOHN I SAT UP HERE, SO IT WAS ALL DIFFERENT DYNAMICS, DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS. >> THAT'S WHERE THE 5% CAME FROM. [LAUGHTER] >> ANYMORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM FOR TONIGHT FOLKS. >> I GUESS THE QUESTION I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE GO FORWARD IS, WHAT RULES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GOVERN AROUND THIS SUP. IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON COUNCIL WHO WANTS TO SEE THIS COME BACK UP MORE RECENTLY THAN THE STIPULATIONS THAT IT'S PUT IN THERE NOW, OR HOURS OF OPERATION OR ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO ADD IN THERE THIS IS THEIR CHANCE, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCILS AWARE OF THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT REMAIN PUT IN THE PACKET AS THE STANDARD HOURS I'VE USED IN LIKE JACKSON IN A YEAR, [00:35:02] AND I THINK IN A YEAR, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE, MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY ISSUES AND WE COULD LOOK INTO EXPANDING TO THE TWO O'CLOCK HOUR AT THAT TIME BUT I'D LIKE TO START THESE BABY STEPS WILL GO TILL MIDNIGHT AND ON THE WEEKEND OR ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT JUST TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR. I HAVE NOT HAD ONE INCIDENT WHERE I'VE HAD TO CALL THE POLICE AT MY LOCATION IN LIKE JACKSON OR MY LOCATION BEFOREHAND, JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. >> THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND YOUR ROLE IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON MY SUGGESTION THAT WE START WITH BABY STEPS, WHICH IS TO GO TO MIDNIGHT, AND BECAUSE I'M LEAST OPEN TO THE IDEA OF EXPANDING IT TO TWO O'CLOCK WHICH I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR AND MAY NOT BE SOMETHING YOU GET IN LIKE JACKSON. LET'S JUST GO THROUGH A ONE-YEAR AND THEN WE'LL RE-APPROACH THE SITUATION AND PERHAPS LOOK AT EXPANDING WORK HOURS. >> SO MR. TONES IN RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT SAYS ALL OF THAT, WHAT YOU JUST SAID. >> THAT'S WHY I'M JUST PUTTING THIS OUT FOR FUTURE HECK, I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE HERE NEW YEAR. YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ME. >> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230215-011 TO PROVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SEVEN SOULS TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING STUDIO LOCATED AT 117 WEST MYRTLE STREET DOWN TO TEXAS. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> YES. THE SUP FOLLOWS WHAT IS STRICTLY IN OUR PACK, SO NO CHANGES TO IT. >> SIMPLE. GOT IT. GOOD. WELL, ONCE AGAIN, MS. CANTU, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND I HOPE THE PROCESS WAS SMOOTH AND PAINLESS. WE TRIED TO PRIDE OURSELVES ON BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND TRYING TO MAKE IT AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE. HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING WELL WITH THE RELEVANT SERVICES AND YOU'RE BUILDING THE RENOVATION AND ALL THAT. >> WE'RE GETTING IT TOGETHER. >> WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT. ALSO THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO COME TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE APPRECIATE THAT, WE REALLY DO. GO AHEAD, SIR. >> JUST REITERATING THAT YOU ARE THE FIRST TATTOO PARLOR TO OPERATE IN ANGLETON. YOU'RE THE TRAILBLAZER FOR US. >> YES, SIR. >> IT TOOK US 10 YEARS TO GET TO THIS POINT, SO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THAT BAR REALLY HIGH BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WATCHING. >> YES, SIR. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT WITH THE LAKE JACKSON MAYOR, I DID EXPLAIN TO HIM THAT I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO COME IN AFTER ME AND CREATE AN ISSUE. IF YOU ALL EVER NEED A SECOND OPINION ON LOOKING AT BUSINESS PLANS OR ANYTHING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. >> THANK YOU. >> JOHN, I DO HAVE HIS PHONE NUMBER, SO IF WE HAVE ANYTHING [LAUGHTER] GET CLIENT HERE, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. ANYMORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >> CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. AWESOME. THANK YOU ALL GUYS. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >> YOU TOO. [12. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, possible action on Ordinance No. 20230215-012 to approve an application for a Special Use Permit (SUP) pursuant to Sec. 28-63 of the Code of Ordinances to consider a request submitted by Why Not Bingo, LLC, to allow for a Specific Use Permit for a Bingo facility at property located at 1040 S. Velasco St., Angleton, TX.] >> MOVING RIGHT ALONG, ITEM NUMBER 12, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230215-012, TO A PROVE AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SUP, PURSUANT TO SECTION 28-63 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TO CONSIDER A REQUEST SUBMITTED BY WHY NOT BINGO, LLC, TO ALLOW FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A BINGO FACILITY AT PROPERTY LOCATED 1040 SOUTH VELASCO STREET, ANGLETON TEXAS. MR. OTIS? >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS ANOTHER SUP ITEM. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED ACTUALLY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THESE TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT FACILITIES, BINGO HALLS, DO REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE IN SEVERAL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS. THIS PROPERTY, OF COURSE, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH 10 PIN ENTERTAINMENT BOWLING ALLEY IS THE FACILITY THAT CURRENTLY HAS A BALLROOM FACILITY IN WHICH THE APPLICANTS HOPE TO CHANGE INTO THE WHY NOT BINGO ENTERTAINMENT VENUE. THEY ARE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR THE SUP IN WHICH WE DID, OF COURSE, ADVERTISE IT, AND ALSO NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY. PLANNING COMMISSION HELD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING, AND ACTUALLY VETTED A FEW QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS RELATED TO THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY PROVIDE, HOURS OF OPERATION, THE IMPACTS ON THE BUDDING USE, WHICH DOES PROVIDE OF COURSE THE FOOD AND ALSO ALCOHOL, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO SMOKE WITHIN THE FACILITY. THAT WAS BROUGHT OUT IN THE HEARING. [00:40:03] THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID BOTH 6-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SUP AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FOR THE FACILITY. IN TERMS OF ANY IMPACTS ON THE EXTERIOR, THEY ARE DOING SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PARKING LOT WHICH IS SUFFICIENT TO HOLD THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE FACILITY. THEY WOULD, OF COURSE, HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL LOCAL AND STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE TYPE OF CHARITY, BINGO HALLS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID DISCUSS THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION IN WHICH THEY HAD NO ISSUES WITH THEM BEING CLOSED ON MONDAYS, TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY THEY WOULD OPEN AT 4:00, AND ON SUNDAY, THEY WOULD OPEN AT 10:00 AM. WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE ATTACHED TO THE PACKAGE THAT WOULD OUTLINE ANY PARAMETERS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO SATISFY. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THIS PARTICULARLY USE DID NOT HAVE ANY MAJOR ISSUES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. >. THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES, WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING. DID HAVE MR. WISE WHO HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. MR. WISE, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW THAT OF COURSE WILL CALL YOU BACK UP FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. SHOULD WE HAVE MORE? GO AHEAD IF YOU LIKE. >> I'M ADAM WILDER, WHY NOT BINGO, I LIVE AT 319 BUFFALO TRAIL. THIS IS A CHARITABLE BINGO HALL FOR THE CHARITIES AROUND THE COMMUNITY. WE REPRESENT FIVE CHARITIES. WE HAVE THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS, THE MARINE CORPS LEAGUE, THE BASE OF THE LIONS CLUB, THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS AT LAKE JACKSON, AND ONE MORE OUT OF BASE CITY IT IS, LET'S SEE. I GOT THEM ALL ROLL DOWN. HANG ONE A SEC. IT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S ALSO BASICALLY LIONS CLUB AND BASICALLY BOOSTER CLUB THAT WE TAKE CARE OF. THIS PLACE IS GOING TO BE A CLEAN FACILITY FOR CHARITY FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. WE DID HAVE A BINGO HALL IN CLYDE, SO WE'RE MOVING IT FROM CLYDE TO ANGLETON AREA, SO IT'S BE A CENTER LOCATION FOR EVERYBODY. WE HAVE ABOUT 25 EMPLOYEES. ALSO TO BRING MORE REVENUE TO THE CITY, AS FAR AS BINGO. THERE INCLUDE FOR TWO YEARS, THE DEAL LITTLE OVER ALMOST NINE MILLION IN SALES. ALSO ALL THE PRIZE FEES THAT ARE WON FROM BINGO ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO THE CITY AND STATE. THE CITY GETS A PORTION EACH QUARTER, THE STATE GETS A PORTION OF EACH QUARTER. WE ALSO DO A SPECIAL NEEDS BINGO FOR THE CITIES AROUND. WE DO TEXAS CITY, BUT WE DO IT OUT OF THE BINGO. NOTE, WE DON'T CHARGE THEM ANYTHING, THEY COME IN AND PLAY BINGO. [NOISE] WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD ONE ON YESTERDAY IN ANGLETON. WE DIDN'T HAVE A MACHINE, BUT THEY HAD A LOT OF FUN. WE DID DRAW BALLS OUT OF A LITTLE THING, BUT WE HAVE PICTURES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IF YOU ALL WANT TO SEE THAT, IT'S COOL. I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 45 SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS THAT CAME OUT. WE ALSO DO TOYS FOR TODS AND QUARTERLY, WE GIVE ABOUT TWO OR $3,000 TO THE CHARITIES FROM BINGO EAST QUARTER. IT'S VERY GOOD FOR THE CITY AND THE STATE. EVERYTHING IS REGULATED THROUGH THE TEXAS LOTTERY COMMISSION, SO EVERYTHING IS ON. BUT ALL I'M GOING TO FAVOR FOR BINGO, SIR. >> IF WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL YOU UP AND ASK YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC. ANYBODY ELSE WAS STILL THE PUBLIC HEARING ON FOR AGAINST THE ITEM NUMBER 12? GOING ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES. COUNCIL. >> MOVE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE NOW OUT OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW ONTO THE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. I THINK MOST OF US HAVE BEEN IN ANGLETON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE USED TO HAVE SEVERAL BINGO PLACES IN TOWN JUST BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY AND PANDEMIC, SOME WENT AWAY. WE DON'T HAVE A BINGO HALL AT THIS TIME. I DO KNOW IT'S A FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT FOR ALL WALKS OF LIFE. IT'S NOT JUST FOR MY MOM, MY MUM IS HER AGE, [00:45:03] BUT SHE IS MY MOM. THAT DEMOGRAPHIC. THEN ALSO, I WOULDN'T LIE WHEN IT WAS DOWN SOUTH 288 AND THERE'S A YOUNG CROWD THAT GOES IN PLACE AS WELL. IT IS A FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT WHICH IS LEGAL IN TEXAS. I APPRECIATE YOU ONCE AGAIN, WANTING TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY, GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY. SOUNDS LIKE FROM WHAT YOU TOLD ME WHEN I TALKED TO YOU ON THE PHONE, THERE IS AN IMPACT FINANCIALLY THAT COMES BACK TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON. THAT'S A GOOD THING WHEN THAT CAN OCCUR. I'M TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF BINGO. USED TO BE AT NIGHT AND USED TO WORK THE BINGOS WHERE IT WAS LAST CLUMPS HALL, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT OPERATION. THAT'S MY COMMENTS, I ALREADY SPOKE WITH THE GENTLEMAN ONCE BEFORE ON THE PHONE, SO I REALLY HAVE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OF HIM. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'D LIKE, FLOOR IS OPEN FOR YOU GUYS TO ASK QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. >> ELIAS, QUICKLY, I GUESS, OR WHATEVER. HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO ANYBODY IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR CHARITIES? >> WE HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS AND THE MARINE CORPS, THAT ARE IN ANGLETON. >> OKAY. THEY ARE IN ANGLETON. >> ACTUALLY THE NIGHTS USED TO HAVE BINGO, SO WE USED TO GO TO THAT ON TUESDAY NIGHT. THEY'RE NO LONGER THERE SO WE HAVE THEIR CHARITY. WE ALSO HAVE THE MARINE CORPS, THEY ARE RIGHT OFF AT 288B. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE MORE, BUT WE CAN ONLY. WE'RE CONSIDERING IT A COMMERCIAL HALL, SO WE CAN ONLY HAVE ABOUT SEVEN CHARITIES. BUT SEVEN CHARITIES CAN ACTUALLY OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, SO WE OPERATE SIX DAYS A WEEK. WE'RE CLOSED ON MONDAY, SO WE WOULD GIVE THE FAMILIES TIME OFF WITH THEIR FAMILIES. WHICH MONDAY IS NOT A REALLY GOOD DAY BUT BINGO ON MONDAYS IS NOT TOO GOOD. YOU NOTE THE GROWTH THROUGH THE WEEKS. BUT NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR A COUPLE OF MORE CHARITIES, BUT THEY HAVE A BIG 501C CHARITIES AND IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE TEXAS LOTTERY COMMISSION. >> I THINK I NEED TRAVIS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WHEN YOU SAY CHARITIES, IS THERE'S THE CHARITIES THAT THEY HAVE TO ALIGN WITH? BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GIVE A CERTAIN PORTION OF THEIR PROFITS TO THAT GROUP. THEN HE'S ALSO VERY WELL-LIKED THERE'S TOYS FOR TOTS AND THOSE TYPE OF CHARITIES. THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE THAT HE COULD JUST GIVE MONEY OTHERWISE OR EVENTS. THAT'S THE CHARITIES I THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE TWO TOGETHER AND IT'S ACTUALLY TWO SEPARATE GROUPS. IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT. >> WE ALSO WHAT WE DO IS, SAY FOR INSTANCE, YESTERDAY WITH THE SPECIAL NEEDS BINGO FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS. THEY DON'T ACTUALLY DON'T PAY FOR ANYTHING, THEY JUST COME IN FROM TEXAS CD THEY COME IN FROM THE ANGLETON AREA. ACTUALLY, THEY DO HAVE A SPECIAL NEEDS GROUP THAT ACTUALLY IS AT TENPIN RIGHT NOW, THAT BASES OUT OF TENPIN SO THEY HAVE I THINK 11 OR 12 THAT ARE THERE. ONCE A MONTH WE DO BINGO FOR THEM. BUT WE'RE OPEN, WE DO ANYTHING FOR CHARITY. OTHER THAN THAT, 501 SUCH AREAS THAT WE TAKE IN, SO WE'RE ONLY REGULATED TO HAVE SEVEN. BUT IF WE HAVE MORE, WE ACTUALLY CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN SEVEN. NOW, IF WE OPEN ANOTHER BINGO HALL, YOU CAN ADD MORE CHARITY SO THAT. NOW WE HAVE FIVE CHARITIES, WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE MORE BACK TO FIVE CHARITIES THAN WE DO IN SEVEN CHARITIES. >> I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS ANY ADDITIONAL, IF YOU JUST REACH OUT OUR ADVERTISING THE COMMUNITY OR EVEN [OVERLAPPING] BUSINESS CALLS. >> IF SOMETHING CAME UP AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO RUN EVENT AT THE BINGO HALL, WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. WE WOULDN'T CHARGE THEM TO ACTUALLY RUN AN EVENT THERE. BECAUSE MOST EVENT PLACES ACTUALLY CHARGE YOU A EVENT FEE OR. >> I WAS JUST THINKING WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPORTS AND OTHER EXTRA CURRICULAR TYPE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE LEAGUES. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO FUNDRAISERS FOR THEM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. >> YEAH. WE CAN DO ANYTHING, AS LONG AS IT'S REGULATED THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS. YOU CAN'T JUST COME IN AND SET UP SHOP WITHOUT CONTACTING US AND SAY, HEY, YOU CONTACT ME OR ONE OF MY MANAGERS AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DO, SAY FOR INSTANCE, MR. BILL, RIGHT HERE WANTS TO DO A BASEBALL FUNDRAISER FOR THE KIDDOS AT A BASEBALL PARK. I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES BECAUSE MOST BINGO PLAYERS ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THAT. THEY'LL COME IN AND EITHER BUY RAFFLE TICKETS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. >> GOOD TO KNOW. >> BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, SO WE'RE NOT HERE JUST TO SAY, HEY WE WANT TO TAKE THEIR MONEY AND NOT GIVE THEM NOTHING BACK BECAUSE THE BINGO ACTUALLY [00:50:01] GIVES BACK TO THE CITY-STATE AND THE CHARITIES AND THE COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. >> HOW DOES THAT WORK? IS THERE SOME PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TYPE THAT THE CITY [OVERLAPPING]? >> HOW IT WORKS. SAY FOR INSTANCE, YOU'VE COME IN TO PLAY BINGO AND YOU WIN $750. THEY TAKE PRICE THESE OUT, SO THE PRICE THESE ARE THE $750.32. THE $32 IS ACTUALLY SPLIT THROUGH THE CITY AND STATE. IF WE PLAYED 10 OR 11 BINGO GAMES THAT DAY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. WE ALSO PLAY EVENT TABS TOO, SO DAILY, YEARLY THE CITY GET ROUGHLY 200 BUCKS A DAY AND IN PRICE THE MONEY OR MORE. IT JUST DEPENDS ON OPERATIONS THAT DAY. >> DO YOU SELL FOOD OR DRINKS? >> THEY'LL HAVE A DINER THERE. THEY'LL HAVE SNACKS, A SNACK-BAR TOO. >> OKAY. >> THEY'RE ALSO ABLE TO PLAY BOWLING TOO. EVERYTHING IS REGULATED THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS THROUGH THE LOTTERY COMMISSION. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING IN THERE, SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE UP TO DATE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> YEAH. I GOT TONS. >> GO AHEAD, JOHN. >> I'M TAKING MY TIME HERE. >> GREAT. >> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE OWNERSHIP HERE. WHO OWNS THE BUILDING? >> TENPIN ENTERTAINMENT OWNS THE BUILDING. >> BUT WE'RE GIVING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO WHY NOT BINGO, LLC? >> YES, LLC IN THE BANQUET HALL. >> IN ONE SPECIFIC AREA? >> YES, SIR. >> THE HOURS OF OPERATION, WHAT KEEPS YOU IN LINE WITH THE TENPIN BOWLING GROUP SO THAT YOU SHOULD BOTH OPERATE. >> THEY'RE OPEN FROM A CERTAIN TIME TO A CERTAIN TIME, SO WE'LL BE IN THAT AREA OF THEIR OPENING. WE WON'T AFFECT NONE OF THOSE BECAUSE THE BOWLING ALLEY IS ON ONE SIDE, THEN THEY HAVE THE POOL AREA ON ANOTHER SIDE AND THEN OUR BINGO HALL IS FURTHER TO THE RIGHT. >> REMIND ME AGAIN, YOUR AREA IT'S GOT A WALL ON THE DOOR AND EVERYTHING. >> YES, SIR. >> WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE RIGHT, IT'S ALL CLOSED OFF TOO? >> YES, SIR. >> YOU CAN REGULATE FROM THAT END. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, DID YOU GET THE SUPPORT OF TENPIN FOR THE SUP? >> MOST DEFINITELY, YEAH. >> OKAY. WAS THAT IN THE PACK? >> THE PROPERTY OWNER, HE HAS THAT SIGN THE AFFIDAVIT THAT HE'S OKAY WITH THE APPLICATION. >> WHAT WAS THAT IN THE PACK? I DIDN'T SEE. >> IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED, BUT IT'S A PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND WE HAVE IT ON FILE. >> THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS GO ON AND WAIT A MINUTE. >> WE ACTUALLY DID A WHOLE BUNCH OF LIGHTING UPDATES TO THE OUTSIDE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY BOWLS HERE, BUT WHEN I FIRST WENT THERE, THERE WAS ONLY THREE LIGHTS WORKING IN THE PARKING LOT. NOW THE WHOLE AREA IS LIT UP. WE'RE GOING TO DO CHANGES TO THE SIGN. WE'RE GOING TO RE-STRAP THE PARKING LOT, FIX ALL THE POTHOLES IN THE PARKING LOT. IT'S STARTING TO LOOK MUCH BETTER THAN IT DID. WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THERE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, HEY, THAT'S A BOWLING ALLEY INSTEAD OF JUST A BLACK AREA WITH NO LIGHTS. >> LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN OPERATION YOURSELF? >> SO ACTUALLY I HAVE A BINGO HALL AND IN PEARLAND RIGHT NOW THAT JUST OPENED UP IN JANUARY AT THE VFW THERE WHERE WE WERE OPERATE FOUR DAYS A WEEK THERE AND WAS INCLUDED FOR TWO YEARS. I'VE BEEN DOING BINGO FOR 25 YEARS. >> TWENTY-FIVE YEARS? >> YEAH. >> OWNING ONE FOR HOW LONG? >> THIS WOULD BE THREE YEARS. >> THREE YEARS, OKAY. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >> HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK. I ALSO SPOKE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT BINGO. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THERE THAT WANT TO GO PLAY BINGO. [LAUGHTER] >> I'D LIKE FOR US TO GET YOU GOING AND INTEGRATE YOU INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HOPEFULLY HAVE PEOPLE UTILIZE YOUR SPACE. BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE FUNDS FOR DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS UTILIZING THAT SPACE. >> YEAH, I LIKE THAT IDEA. >> THANK YOU. >> PHIL. QUESTION? >> THE MONEY HE'S PAYING TO THE CITY, IS THAT COMING THROUGH SALES TAX OR IS THAT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAM THAT COMES IN? [00:55:03] I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IMPACTS TO THE JOURNAL FUND. >> I HAVE NEVER SEEN REVENUE COMING IN FROM A BINGO HALL IN THE CITIES I'VE WORKED FOR. [BACKGROUND] >> PUT THIS BACK UP YOUR HERE. >> YES, SIR. HOW IT WORKS? I EXPLAINED TO HIM WHILE AGO, YOU'LL GET 2.5% OF THE SALES TAX FROM THE BINGO WINNINGS. THAT'S NOT COUNTING WHAT THE TIN PAN PAYS ON THE TAXES FROM THEIR BUILDING. [OVERLAPPING] QUARTERLY YOU ALL GET IT'S ROUGHLY FROM 15,000-25,000 QUARTERLY. IT COULD BE MORE. >> SURE. >> IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SALES AND WHAT WE PAY OUT. >> I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH SALES TAX DOLLARS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE CAN DO WITH [OVERLAPPING] A FEE OR A PERMANENT FINE OR SOMETHING. THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO. >> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE CITY DOES WITH THE SALES TAX MONEY FROM THE BINGO. >> THAT'LL BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT. CAN YOU FIND OUT FOR ME, PHIL? >> YES I WILL. >> THANK YOU. >> DO YOU PAY YOUR FEES QUARTERLY TO THE STATE CONTROLLER? [BACKGROUND] >> IT'S COMING THROUGH SALES TAX. [BACKGROUND] >> THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO HURRY HIM AND GET US STARTED DURING THE FIRST QUARTER SO YOU'LL CAN GET A SALES TAX CHECK. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP US OUT. THANK YOU. >> I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU ALL OUT. >> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS THAT, I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM HOW DOES HE REPORT THAT? HE SAYS HE GOES TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE FOR IT, [BACKGROUND] AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY COMES THROUGH AND THEN I GUESS THEN THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE KNOWS THE SAME THING THAT DIRECTLY THROUGH US WHEN WE GET OUR SALES TAX PAYMENT. I WONDER IF IT'S OUT OF MY ASS IF IT'S GOING TO BE BROKE OUT, I DON'T KNOW. >> FIND OUT. >> YES, SIR. THANK YOU. >> ZACH TAX. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? LADIES, GENTLEMEN WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM ON THE TABLE. >> SAME THING AS BEFORE. IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON COUNCIL WHO'S WILLING TO CHANGE THE SUP, PLEASE MAKE YOUR COMMENTS NOW. >> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230215-012, A PREVIOUS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR WHY NOT BINGO, LLC TO OPERATE AT THE FACILITY AT 1040 SOUTH VELASCO STREET ANGLETON TEXAS. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND HIM. >> WAS THAT YOU TRAVIS? SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ONCE AGAIN, SIR, THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US. I KNOW WE TALKED IN THE LAST YEAR AND JUST SLOW PROCESS, BUT HOPEFULLY IT WASN'T TOO PAINFUL. WE APPRECIATE IT. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION CARRIES. CONGRATULATIONS. >> THAT COMPLETES OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS. WE ARE ROLLING ALONG HERE, FOLKS. I KNOW WE HAVE OTHER THINGS ON OUR AGENDA. I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS IF YOU'LL WANT TO GET OUT, WHY YOU WANT TO, OR YOU CAN STAY AND LISTEN. IF YOU DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DISTURB US, THAT'S FINE. TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE BIG STUFF, PEOPLE THEN TEND TO LEAVE BECAUSE THE REST OF THE STUFF MAY NOT EVEN VISIT PHASE. [LAUGHTER] >> SIX MORE ITEMS, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY. >> WELCOME TO STAY, PLEASE ALLOW ME. BUT I'LL GIVE YOU 15, 20 SECONDS. [LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND] >> GOOD NIGHT. >> GOOD NIGHT. >> HERE COMES THE FREE POPCORN AND SODAS NOW. [LAUGHTER] >> DOOR PRIZE HERE WE GO. >> I REMEMBER GETTING FREE TATTOO. [LAUGHTER] >> THIS IS A FUN NIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. [13. Discussion and possible action on Resolution No. 20230215-013 of the City of Angleton, Texas, approving an agreement for a project of the Angleton Better Living Corporation authorizing the execution of the agreement with Burditt Consultants, LLC for the design development for the passive area of Freedom Park; found by the ABLC’s Board of Directors to be an eligible project and expenditure; and providing for an effective date. ] ITEM NUMBER 13, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230215-013 OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON TEXAS, ABBREVIATED AGREEMENT FOR A PROJECT OF THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT WITH BURNETT CONSULTANTS, LLC FOR THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PASSIVE AREA OF FREEDOM PARK, FOUND BY THE ABLC BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO BE ELIGIBLE PROJECT AND EXPENDITURE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MS. MEGAN. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IF YOU RECALL, THIS PROJECT STARTED WITH FREEDOM MASTER PLAN ON JANUARY 21ST OF 2021, THAT WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT. THE PLAN WAS SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPTED IN AUGUST OF 2021. THIS IS JUST OUR NEXT STEP. ON JANUARY 17, 2023, ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING DESIGNATION PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR '22, [01:00:02] '23, AND ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION APPROVED THE FUNDING FOR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE NORTHERN 40 ACRE PROPERTY WITHIN FREEDOM PARK. THESE SERVICES ARE TO BE PROVIDED BY BURNETT CONSULTANTS, THEY ARE THE CONSULTANT COMPANY THAT HELPED DEVELOP THE MASTER PLAN. WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. AGAIN, THIS IS THE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN. IT WAS BROKEN DOWN INTO ABOUT FIVE AREAS. THIS IS THE PASSIVE PARK AREA ON THE NORTHERN TRACK WHERE THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE THEIR CLEARING AND GRUBBING FOR CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE WORKING ON EXCAVATION CURRENTLY, AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO FOLLOW ON RIGHT AFTER THEM WITH DESIGN SO THAT IN NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE HOPE TO PURSUE ATPW GRANT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT IN CONJUNCTION WITH FUNDING FROM ABLC. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM US? ANY ONE? >> THIS IS THE MONEY THAT WE AGREED TO FROM ABLC TO SPEND. BUT WASN'T THERE A QUESTION AS TO THE FUND BALANCE AND HOW MUCH WAS LEFT? >> THIS WAS ACTUALLY OUT OF WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY FUND LINE ITEM AND ABLC THESE FUNDS WERE OUT OF THAT BUDGETED CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM. THIS IS NOT TOUCHING THE FUND BALANCE. >> THAT'S WHAT I MEANT THE CONTINGENCY LINE, BUT THE PROBLEM WAS WE WERE WORRIED THAT THE CONTINGENCY LINE WAS THE CATCHALL FOR THE BUDGET AT THAT POINT. >> RIGHT. >> DID WE END UP WITH THE NUMBER THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD. >> AS FAR AS CONTINGENCY, YES, WE BUDGETED APPROPRIATELY BASED ON WHAT WAS APPROVED BY ABLC TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THE ANTICIPATED SALES TAX, WHICH WAS VERY CONSERVATIVE, IF YOU RECALL CORRECTLY, TYPICALLY WE'RE GOING UP ABOUT 8% EACH YEAR, BUT WE KEPT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WE BUDGETED LAST FISCAL YEAR. WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE OUR SALES TAX INCREASE. IT LOOKS FAIRLY HEALTHY FROM THE REPORTS THAT WE'VE SEEN COME IN. WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABLC'S INTENT WAS IN ADOPTING THAT SAME NUMBER AS LAST YEAR WAS SO THAT THEY COULD PAD THE FUND BALANCE FOR THIS COMING YEAR, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO GO OUT FOR DEBT FOR A LARGER PROJECT. >> CORRECT. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230215-013. AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT WITH VERDICT CONSULTANTS, LLC FOR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PASSIVE AREA, FREEDOM PARK, IN THE AMOUNT OF 64,638. IS THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER? >> CORRECT. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM WRIGHT. SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. >> NO. >> THAT'S ONE NAY. MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU. >> WE WOULD RIDE ALONE. ITEM NUMBER 14, [14. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230215-014 approving the 2022 Annual Assessment Plan Update for the Green Trails Public Improvement District (PID).] DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230215-014 APPROVING THE 2022 ANNUAL ASSESSMENT PLAN UPDATE FOR THE GREEN TRAIL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ALSO KNOWN AS PID. GO AHEAD, SIR. JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR US, PLEASE. >> YES, SIR. I'M JOHN SCHNEIDER WITH P3WORKS FOR THE CITY'S PID ADMINISTRATOR. [BACKGROUND] THIS ITEM IS REALLY ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE. THIS IS THE GREEN TRAILS PID. THIS IS THE FIRST PID THAT WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER OF 2020. WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY DRAFT THE DOCUMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ONE. IT WAS ANOTHER FIRM, BUT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO HELP ADMINISTER IT. THE WAY THAT THIS ONE WORKS IS ONCE A HOMEOWNER HAS MOVED DOWN THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THE FOLLOWING YEAR THEN THEIR FIRST PAYMENT IS DUE. THERE'S 15 HOMEOWNERS THAT NOW OWE THEIR FIRST INSTALLMENT, THE REMAINING 35 BELOW THEIR FIRST INSTALLMENT NEXT YEAR, AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK EVERY YEAR. HEREAFTER, JUST DOING THIS SAME UPDATES. THIS IS REALLY JUST COMPLIANT WITH THE DOCUMENTS AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> I THINK WE GOT ALL CHUCKLED UP HERE IF WE HAD CLOSED OUR EYES AND JUST LISTEN TO THE VOICE [LAUGHTER] WE WOULD KNOW WHO YOU ARE. I THINK I'VE MET YOU ONCE IN PERSON BUT NOW I REMEMBER YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR. JUST REAL QUICK, KYLE, IS THAT STREET COMPLETELY FULL NOW? THAT'S WHAT THOUGHT. IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS SINCE I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE. >> I DROVE THROUGH THERE THE OTHER DAY AND EVERY HOUSE HAD A GARBAGE CAN [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. THANK YOU. [01:05:01] >> REMEMBER THIS IS A CASH PID. >> CASH PID, THAT'S RIGHT. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. SCHNEIDER? >> I BELIEVE LIKE HE SAID, THIS IS MORE PROCEDURAL THAN ANYTHING. COUNCIL, WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? >> I KNOW THEY MAY APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND. DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A SECOND MY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT MAYBE. >> GO AHEAD, SIR. >> EXCEPT FOR THE NEXT 29 YEARS OR SO, MAYBE PUT IT ON CONSENT AGENDA. [LAUGHTER] YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL IT. [LAUGHTER] >> I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY MAKE A REQUEST THAT WE HAVE MR. SCHNEIDER JOIN US FOR THE NEXT 29 YEARS. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU GOT THIS, RIGHT? [OVERLAPPING] SEE IT THROUGH TO THE END. >> THAT'S WHAT WE DO. [LAUGHTER] >> IF YOU WANT TO KEEP COMING. [OVERLAPPING] >> YES, FRANK. >> YOU MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING, ALSO WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE. >> YEAH. >> BUT MAYBE WE'D ACCEPT YOU BY PHONE, ESPECIALLY ON. >> THAT'D BE GREAT. >> IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A CONTINUAL UPDATE, HOPEFULLY JUST, EVERYTHING CLICKING ALONG. >> NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT FOR TIBER AND RIVERWOOD, GREEN TRAILS AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE. PROBABLY TRYING TO GET THEM ALL ON THE SAME AGENDA. [OVERLAPPING] >> OKAY. WELL, IN THAT CASE YOU MAY WANT TO SEE BECAUSE THERE'S THAT MANY [LAUGHTER] >> YOU MAY JOIN RSVP FOR DINNER, AND WHEN THIS COMES BACK AND HAVE DINNER WITH US. >> YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT. EVEN THOUGH WE JOKED ABOUT IT THIS IS A GREAT COMMENT. THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU MORE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THEN I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN, MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> SAFE TRAVELS WHEREVER YOU'RE HEADING BACK TO. >> I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU. >> ITEM NUMBER 15 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON [15. Discussion and possible action on proposed fees for Lakeside Park rentals, alcohol permit, tables and chairs, table and chair setup, and an overall park rental used during special events as permitted by City Council.] PROPOSED FEES FOR LAKESIDE PARK REYNOLDS, ALCOHOL PERMIT, TABLES AND CHAIRS, TABLE AND CHAIR SETUP, AND OVERALL PARK RENTAL USE, DRINKS, SPECIAL EVENTS AS PERMITTED BY THE CITY OF ANGLETON. IT'S MEGAN? >> YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY SEVERAL THINGS IN THIS AGENDA ITEM. TO START, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ESTABLISHED A FEE SCHEDULE WITHIN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT STAFF AS A WHOLE PLANS TO UPDATE THIS COMING SEPTEMBER. YOU'LL NOTICE IN YOUR PACKET THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT OF SEVERAL FEES, NOT JUST OUTLINED FOR LAKESIDE PARK, BUT A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE PLAN TO UPDATE IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE THEY WERE MISSED IN THAT FIRST ADOPTED FEE SCHEDULE. WHEN WE START LISTING OFF RENTAL FEES FOR LAKESIDE PARK, TABLE AND CHAIR REYNOLDS, IT REALLY APPLIES TO MORE THAN JUST LAKESIDE PARK, AND ONE THING THAT WE TALKED INTERNALLY AND WITH RANDALL LAW OFFICE IS THAT IT IS LIKELY MORE APPROPRIATE TO, IN THIS CASE, REVISE THE ORDINANCE FOR THE FEE SCHEDULE SO THAT STAFF CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY CHANGE SOME OF THOSE FEES, SO THAT WILL LIKELY BE COMING TO YOU GUYS NEAR COUNCIL MEETINGS SO THAT THAT CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY AS WE FIND THAT THINGS ARE MISSING, THEY CAN ALREADY BE UPDATED. SOME OF THOSE THINGS INCLUDE THE REYNOLDS THAT WE HAD AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THAT IN YOUR PACKET, THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS. HOWEVER, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED ABOUT RENTALS FOR LAKESIDE PARK, SO STAFF HAD REACHED OUT TO OUR GREATER GULF COAST PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR ASSOCIATION. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPONSE REGARDING PAVILION RENTALS. WHAT YOU OFTEN SEE IN SOME OF THE PARK PAVILION RENTALS ARE MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU SEE AT DICKEY PARK, BATES, FREEDOM. THEY'RE SMALL PAVILIONS. OURS ARE CURRENTLY $25 AN HOUR. SOME OF THEM ARE 50 AND WE HAVE A MINIMUM RENTAL RANGE OF TWO HOURS. THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH LAKESIDE PARK, IT'S A NEW BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. IT REALLY COMPARES MORE LIKE WITH THE ROB FLEMING PARK IN THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE OUR PARKS BOARD VISITED BEFORE CREATING THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT FOR LAKESIDE PARK, AND THAT RENTAL FEE GOES FOR OVER $400. WE TRIED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT. WE WANT IT TO BE CONSERVATIVE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PRETEND WE'RE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP, WE WANTED IT TO REFLECT SIMILARLY TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE, AND SO WHAT YOU'LL FIND IN HERE SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO LAKESIDE PARK RENTALS ARE SUGGESTIONS ALIGN WITH OUR INDOOR RENTALS AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. WE HAVE A ROOM WHERE WE RENT WITH A KITCHENETTE. WE HAVE A PART OF A PAVILION THAT HAS A CONCESSION AREA THAT HAS A FUNCTIONING KITCHEN. WE PLAN TO MOVE OVER A WARMER SO THAT IT COULD BE A WARMING KITCHEN FOR CERTAIN EVENTS LIKE WEDDING RECEPTIONS, [01:10:01] WHAT HAVE YOU, DIFFERENT SPECIAL EVENTS, WEDDING A BRIDAL SHOWERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE DO HAVE A VARIETY OF THINGS IN HERE. BUT AGAIN, I WILL REITERATE THAT THIS IS REALLY MEANT TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE PROPOSED RENTAL FEES, POKE HOLES IN IT. LET US KNOW WHAT SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE BUT THEN ALSO WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE REVISION SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE FEE SCHEDULE. ANOTHER ITEM THAT I WILL NOTE ON HERE THAT YOU REALLY NEED CONTEXT TO IS THAT ALCOHOL PERMIT. WE HAVE ALCOHOL DEPOSITS AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER WHEN WE RENT OUT THAT FACILITY, OUR CURRENT CODE OF ORDINANCES IN SECTION 17, 63, I BELIEVE, DOES HAVE THE WE PROHIBIT ALCOHOL AND OUR PARKS AND LESS AT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE HAVE A MASS GATHERING ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON REPEALING AND REPLACING WITH A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A POLICY. WE'RE STILL IN THE WORKS OF THAT. BUT WHAT WE FORESEE HAPPENING IS WHEN THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND FINALIZED, WE WILL INCLUDE AN ALCOHOL PERMIT FEE WITHIN THAT POLICY OF THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS, AND THAT WILL JUST BE AN ADDITIONAL FEE. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS AT THIS POINT, IT COULD STILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL EVERY TIME WE HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FILLED OUT AND IT'S FOR WE WANT TO CLOSE THE ENTIRE PARK. WE'VE HAD THAT COME UP WITH OUR MASS GATHERINGS AND THERE HAS BEEN ALCOHOL PERMITTED AT SOME OF THOSE EVENTS OR CONCERTS, SO WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO REFINE THAT PROCESS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. [OVERLAPPING] >> I WILL MAKE A COMMENT. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN RUNNING AND MAKING THAT APPLICATION. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION LIKE THE FEE SCHEDULE IS OKAY, THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE TENANT RESERVATIONS. AGAIN, BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR FORMALITY ON THE 1ST OF MARCH AT OUR NEXT MEETING. >> THE FEE SCHEDULE IS NOT CLEAR BECAUSE WE'VE ATTACHED THE REC CENTER FEES AND SO MUCH STUFF, I JUST NEED THAT. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT FOR LAKESIDE SPECIFICALLY NOW? >> LAKESIDE SPECIFICALLY IF YOU WILL GO TO PAGE 234 OF YOUR PACKET. >> OKAY. NOW I SEE IT. IT'S IN RED. >> YEAH. >> THESE WERE ADDITIONS TO THE FEE SCHEDULE ITEMS THAT WERE MISSED THE FIRST GO ROUND AND SO THESE WOULD BE OUR CHANGES IN SEPTEMBER, BUT WE REALIZED THAT THESE MAY NEED TO HAPPEN QUICKER. AGAIN, ANOTHER SOLUTION FOR THAT IN THE TIME BEING, OUR STAFF CAN ACCEPT AND COLLECT INFORMATION FOR THOSE THAT ARE WANTING RENTALS UNTIL THIS HAS BEEN PASSED AND CONFIRMED BY COUNCIL. >> BECAUSE ME MYSELF, I WAS THINKING, OH, THAT'S GOOD PRICE, ECONOMICAL. BUT THEN I WAS ALSO THINKING, INTRODUCTORY PRICE, BECAUSE IT'S BRAND NEW, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU GET SOMETHING, IF YOU PAY THE FIRST YEAR IT'S CHEAPER AND THEN MAYBE THE NEXT YEAR IT GOES UP A LITTLE BIT. I FIGURED OUT WE'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE WANTING TO RENT PRETTY QUICKLY OVER THERE. I WOULD BE OKAY WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, JUST TO GET THE CART GOING AND THEN YOU ALL CAN EVALUATE. IF IT'S A LOT OF RENTALS ARE COMING IN. MAYBE YOU CAN MAP TO INCREASE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE MORE TIME FOR YOUR FOLKS BEING OUT THERE, METRO PLACE CHAIRS MORE OFTEN, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION BUT I THINK THEIR PRICING FOR THE FIRST YEAR WOULD BE PRETTY REASONABLE AND PRETTY MARKETED. >> SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL POINT OUT ON THE PROPOSAL IS THAT IT IS FOR A MINIMUM OF TWO HOURS FOR EACH OF THESE COMPONENTS. THEN ON THE DEPOSIT, WE HAVE A FLAT RATES ON OUR DEPOSITS FOR ALL OF OUR RENTALS CURRENTLY AND WE WANT TO WORK TOWARDS A PERCENTAGE BECAUSE $50 DEPOSIT ISN'T GOING TO COVER DAMAGE THAT WE COULD EXPECT FOR AN EIGHT HOUR PARTY RENTAL AT THE RECREATION CENTER OR EVEN IN ONE OF OUR PARKS. YOU'LL SEE THAT ALSO ON PAGE 234 THAT WE'VE REFLECTED THAT. I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT I CAUGHT WHAT I WILL SAY IS AN ERROR IN THE PROPOSED FEES. REALLY THAT $100 OR 20 PERCENT OF RENTAL RATE, WHICHEVER IS GREATER, IS REALLY ONLY APPLICABLE TO LAKESIDE PARKS AGE EVERYTHING ELSE IS OVER $100 IF YOU RENT IT FOR THE MINIMUM TWO HOUR STINT. WE'LL PUT THAT OUT THERE ALSO. >> GOT A LOT OF INDEPENDENT RESEARCH ON THIS ISSUE, BUT I HAVE LOOKED AT RENTING DIFFERENT PLACES FOR KIDS EVENTS AND FAMILY EVENTS, AND THESE PRICES ARE ACTUALLY VERY AFFORDABLE. >> FOR A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. >> I WON'T NAME THE PLACES, BUT THEY WOULD CHARGE YOU WELL ABOVE WHAT YOU'RE GETTING CHARGED HERE FOR TWO HOURS. IF YOU WENT TO ALL STAR PIZZERIA ABOUT $325 FOR TWO HOURS. >> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S A LOT LESS THAT YOU GET FOR ALL STAR PIZZERIA. IF YOU WANTED TO GO TO THE AMERICAN LEGION HALL, [01:15:01] YOU'RE TALKING ANYWHERE FROM $300-1,000. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO USE IT FOR, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS EVEN A KID'S BIRTHDAY PARTY YOU'RE STILL A COUPLE HOURS, YOU'RE NOT PAYING. >> LET'S BE HONEST. MOST OF THE RENTALS ARE GOING TO BE FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES. THAT'S JUST THE NATURE HERE IN ANGLETON. >> I COULD SEE RECEPTION AREAS, [OVERLAPPING] AND EVEN THEN YOU'RE WAY BELOW MARKET. I PROMISE IF AT THESE RATES YOU'RE LIKE, I CAN DO MY RECEPTION ON THE BEAUTIFUL OVERLOOK OF OUR PAVILION OR I COULD HAVE GRANTED DEPENDING ON TIME OF YEAR OR CONDITION PLACE DURING THAT TIRE, THE ECONOMIC PRICE IS PROBABLY TWICE WHAT YOU'RE PAYING. >> OH, YEAH. >> ONE THING THAT I WILL NOTE TOO, IS THAT WE HAVE SPECIFIED THE AMENITIES THAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE IN THE RATE. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE AN INTIMATE RECEPTION, IF YOU WILL, UNLESS YOU ALSO RENTED THE PARK. THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION. IF YOU HAD A RECEPTION, YOU COULD RENT THE OVERLOOK, BUT IT'S STILL PUBLIC PARK SO YOU MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE KAYAKING OR FISHING OR PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND OR THINGS LIKE THAT. >> IT'S STILL PUBLIC FACILITIES. >> SURE. >> BUT THAT JUST MIGHT ADD TO THE AMBIANCE DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON. [LAUGHTER]. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK THE OPPOSITION TO $100 AN HOUR FOR THE OVERLOOK TO START IN THE STAGE, I COULD SEE 75. I ACTUALLY GO UP $25 ON THE STAGE SIDE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT AREA. YOU STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE BATHROOMS AND STILL LACKS ACCESS TO THE PLAYGROUND IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO AS A KID'S PARTY. SOMEBODY WHO IS TRYING TO BE ECONOMICAL, TRYING TO HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY, AND THEN IF YOU WANT THE OVERLOOK, THAT'S THE EXTRA $25 OR SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN THAT. I'M JUST THINKING PEOPLE ON A BUDGET HERE, IT'S A PUBLIC FACILITY. I MEAN, I DON'T SEE THESE FIGURES AS TRYING TO. >> PRICE ANYBODY OUT. >> I DON'T THINK WE'RE TRYING TO PRICE PEOPLE OUT. I REALLY DO THINK THIS IS RIGHT IN A VERY EQUAL TO WHAT I'VE SEEN OUT THERE. I'VE NOT CHECKED EVERY PLACE OUT, SO I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND THE BOWLING ALLEY. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT. >> I'VE HAD BIRTHDAY PARTIES AT THE BOWLING ALLEY. AT MULLIGAN'S, AT ALL STAR PIZZA, PROBABLY EVERY PLACE YOU CAN THINK OF IN THIS COUNTY. THIS IS AFFORDABLE, I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT AMENITIES TOO. >> I WILL SAY JUST REMIND YOU ALL THAT WHAT WE BASE THE OVERLOOK IN THE PART STAGE RENTALS WERE BASED ON THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY RENTING THOSE OUT WITH THE KITCHEN AND WITHOUT THE KITCHEN. >> WITH THE POOL? >> ACTUALLY, NO, NOT NECESSARILY. WHEN WE'RE RENTING FOR BRIDAL EVENTS, THEY ARE JUST RENTING THAT ROOM. SO THAT'S NOT YOUR PRIVATE PARTY PACKAGE. >> I DID HAVE A QUESTION. IF THEY WERE TO RENT OUT THE PARK, HOW WOULD WE KEEP THE PUBLIC OUT? >> TYPICALLY, THAT BECOMES PART OF THIS SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENT. IF YOU JUST RECALL SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD WHERE WE HAVE CLOSED THE PARKS FOR INSTANCE, I RECALL US CLOSING VETERANS PARK FOR A CONCERT. WE HAD LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE THEY DID PERMIT ALCOHOL. AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD BE USE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IT WOULD BE ON THE ONUS OF THE RENTER. >> HE ALSO PUT A FENCE UP AS WELL. AT LEAST THERE IT'S ACCESS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MORE BLOCK THE PARK OF IS BY ACCESS [NOISE]. >> MORGAN JUST ABOUT GOES ON, WHAT IS THE OVERLOOK? >> THE OVERLOOK IS THE PORTION OF THE PAVILION THAT IS OVER THE WATER. OVERLOOKING INTO THE WATER. >> THE WAY ALERTED THAT YOU LOOKED UP. >> RIGHT. >> THEN THE PARK STAGE? >> THAT'S THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE PAVILION SO THOSE BARN DOORS CLOSE, WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A RENTERS SIMULTANEOUSLY. >> ON THE FAR. >> RIGHT. THEY WOULD STILL STAGE USERS WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE RESTAURANTS THAT WOULD BE UNDERSTOOD AND PUT INTO OUR WAIVER PROCESS. BUT THE ADDED BENEFIT FOR THE FOLKS RUNNING THE OVERLOOK IS THAT IT'S A LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE IN FOOTPRINT, AND THEN ALSO IT HAS ACCESS TO THE CONCESSION AREA. >> THEN THE PART THAT'S COVERED IS CALLED WHAT THE BIG FANS UP THERE, WHAT? >> THAT IS THE PAVILION [OVERLAPPING] OVERALL, BUT YOU CAN DISSECT IT. THE OVERLOOK IS ONE PORTION, THE STAGE IS ANOTHER. [01:20:01] IF YOU WANT IT TOGETHER THAT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER FEE. >> THE DIRECTION HOPEFULLY WOULD BE, HEY, WE'RE GOOD WITH WHATEVER WE SAID OR IF THERE'S ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO SAY, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THIS BACK HOME RIGHT THE NEXT MEETING. >> I'M GOOD. IF YOU CAN'T SELL IT, YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THE PRICING, BUT NOBODY GAVE US THIS, BUT THE CITIES ON THE HOOK FOR PRETTY GOOD BIT OF MONEY HERE. >> I THINK IT'LL GET A LOT MORE ATTENTION THAN OUR OTHER FACILITIES. >> I AGREE WITH MR. BIT. IT'S EITHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RENTALS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A GOOD SHAPE OR WE'RE NOT RUNNING IT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHY WE'RE NOT RUNNING IT. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WE'RE ALL THE TIME AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE WEAR AND TEAR SPECIFICALLY ON CHAIRS AND TABLES AND ALL THAT STUFF. MAKING SURE YOUR TOILETS ARE PROPERLY FURNISHED, SOAP AND TOILETRIES AND ALL THAT. THEN MAYBE WE DO HAVE TO GO UP. LET'S BE HONEST, WE'VE SEEN THE COST OF INFLATION THIS PAST TWO YEARS HAS BEEN TRAUMATIC. I FEEL LIKE IT'S A FLOATING IS WHAT I'M SAYING. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT A GOOD STARTING POINT. BUT WE CAN ALWAYS INFORMATION GATHER AND DECIDE ACCORDINGLY, ONCE THE INFORMATION STARTS TO ROLL IN. >> I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS. I DOUBT IF YOU JUST PULLING NUMBERS OUT OF A HAT AND DRAW ON THEM. [LAUGHTER] >> TRAVIS, JUST TO COMMENT ON WHAT YOU SAID FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, CITY STAFF WILL BE LOOKING AT FEE SCHEDULES ANNUALLY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE DOING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. >> MAYBE I'M SURE YOU ALL DO THIS ALREADY AND ARE FAR TO CONTEMPLATED IT, BUT KEEPING A RECORD SO WE CAN HAVE LITERALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO SEE. WE'VE HAD BROKEN DOWN BY MONTH, BROKEN DOWN ANNUALLY, AND WHAT EVEN WHAT PARTICULAR THINGS WERE BEING RENTED. BECAUSE THAT MAY HELP US TO HELP FORMULATE OUR FEE SCHEDULE. >> LIKE A SEASONAL [OVERLAPPING] RENTAL THING. >> DATE IN SUMMER. >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT. WE ACTUALLY DO THAT CURRENTLY WITH ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER ON OUR PARK MEMOS. WE CAN ADD A WHOLE ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY GEARED TOWARDS PARKS THAT COULD INCLUDE FIELDS, SMALL CIVILIANS THEY JUST SIGN. >> SIMPLE IS IT A SLASH BASICALLY A MARK NOTATING ONE PERSON OR ONE GROUP. WE COULD, I MEAN TO GO TO JOHN'S POINT. IF WE HAVE COMPLICATED, YOU WANT TO GET IT? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A BAD IDEA AND IF IT IS JUST THAT'S FINE. TELL ME IT IS. WE CAN LOOK AT WEEK DAY RATES VERSUS WEEKEND RATES. >> SURE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE DONE THAT ALSO. >> MAKE IT SURE, [OVERLAPPING] I'LL SAY CERTAINLY. >> WEDDING VENUE DO TOO. >> BRING DOWN THE PRICE ON WEEKDAYS. >> I'M SURE WE'LL GET FEED BACK FROM RENTERS LIKE, HEY, IS A GOOD PRICE OR NO, IT'S NOT OR CAN WE DO ANOTHER COP, DO A COMBO OR COMBO RATE OR SOMETHING FOR OTHER STUFF. >> YOU MIGHT TELL THE FOLKS IN THE FIRST THREE TO SIX MONTHS, THESE ARE INTRODUCTORY RATES WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO FLY BETTER. >> I LIKE THAT LANGUAGE WE CAN INCLUDE THAT. >> THAT'S GOING TO BE MY CLAIM TO FAME. JASON SAID THAT. [LAUGHTER] LEVEL UP PRICE INTEREST RATE, THEN IT GOES UP AT A YEAR. >> PRE-DEVELOPMENT PRICE IS RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] >> JASON SAID YOU CAN RAISE ALL RATES AFTER THIS YEAR. [LAUGHTER] AFTER MAY. >> I THINK YOU HAVE SOME MARCHING ORDERS. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. I KNOW JOHN MADE A RECOMMENDATION IF WE WANT TO GO WITH THAT OR IF WE WANT TO TEST THE WATERS, WE CAN GO FROM THERE. JOHN, YOU OKAY WITH THAT OR? >> I'M GOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT COMMENT OUT THERE. I DO GET THAT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE. THERE IS A LOT OF RESIDENTS HERE THEY ARE FIXED INCOME AND EVERYTHING AND THEY WANT A PLACE IS AFFORDABLE. I UNDERSTAND AMENITIES, I UNDERSTAND LOCATIONS IS NEW ALL THOSE THINGS. WE HAVE RESIDENTS AT DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS, SO ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR ALL OF THEM. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I'M NOT DISCREDITING. I JUST I DO REALLY BELIEVE IT'S VERY VERY COMPETITIVELY PRICED. >> AS SOMEONE WHO'S HAD A LOT OF BIRTHDAY PARTIES FOR KIDS I UNDERSTAND. >> JUST TO RECAP, I HAVE THAT THESE ARE MEANT TO BE INTRODUCTORY RATES. WE WILL UPDATE THE FEE SCHEDULE ANNUALLY. WE WILL START COLLECTING PARK RENTAL STATS AND ALSO CONSIDER WEEK DAY AND WEEKEND RATES. >> I RECOMMEND WE DON'T UPDATE THEM IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR WHEN WE DO THE REST OF THE FEE SCHEDULE, WE WAIT TURN TO A FULL YEAR. [01:25:03] WHEN WERE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024 WE'LL HAVE SOME GOOD DATA. >> I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GET A RULE SET OF DATA NOT SIX MONTHS OF DATA. >> JOHN GETS CALENDAR OUT I THOUGHT YOU START BOOKING ALL THE WAY AT 2024 [LAUGHTER]. >> LIKE I SAID, NOT FOR ME. I'M GOOD WITH IT. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> I THINK WE'RE GOOD GUIDANCE. >> OKAY, SIR. GREAT. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMENT, I WENT TO GO WALK FOR THE FIRST TIME YESTERDAY EVENING, SO I WENT RIGHT BEFORE THE SUNSET. WHEN THE SUN DID SET THAT PAVILION IS BEAUTIFUL, IS SO NICE. LOOKING FROM THE FARTHEST INTO THAT LAKE LOOKS REALLY GOOD. I DID A WONDERFUL JOB. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. >> YES, MA'AM. >> I DID TWO LAPS AND THEN THEY GOT SUPER DARK. MOVING RIGHT ALONG ITEM NUMBER 16, I WOULD NOTE HERE WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT FROM THE AGENDA. I WILL SEE IT AGAIN. I'M ASSUMING IN A FUTURE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 17, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON [17. Discussion and possible action on the proposed Bill authored by Representative Cody Vasut revising Texas Local Government Code Section 242.001.] A PROPOSED BILL AUTHORED BY REPRESENTATIVE CODY WITH SUE REVISING TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION TWO FOR 2.001. CHRIS. >> CODY CALL ME, SAID, HEY, CHRIS, WE'D LIKE YOU AND YOUR CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS HOUSE BILL THAT HE'S PROPOSING. I POURED IT OUT TO YOU-ALL FOR COMMENT I DID GET SOME FEEDBACK. AGAIN, IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. WE JUST BEGAN IF WE HAVE FEEDBACK FORUM, WE CAN PASS IT TO THEM PRIOR TO SUBMISSION OF BILL. IT'S IN HIS HANDS TO WORK. >> HAS IT BEEN FILED YET? >> NO, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. >> CODY COULDN'T MAKE IT. WE INVITED HIM, BUT HE'S IN AUSTIN DOING WHAT HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. >> SURE. JUST SOME COMMENTS. I KNOW WHERE THIS CAME FROM. IT'S BECAUSE I RAISED SOME QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT ETJ JURISDICTION. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT AND ASKED HIM TO TRY TO HELP US WITH A RESOLUTION IN THAT GRAY AREA, BUT I THINK I FEEL TO ME THAT THIS IS MY OPINION. IT'S MORE ONE SIDED. IT'S MORE HEAVY IN FAVORING ONE ENTITY VERSUS ANOTHER ENTITY. I WANT EQUALITY. I THINK I TOLD YOU, MY EMAIL TO YOU IS MORE EQUALITY AND ALSO THE COMMENT THAT IT POTENTIALLY CAN STRIP US THE ABILITY TO SAY WHAT'S GOING TO BE FUTURE CITY LIMIT THAT'S IN A CURRENT ETJ. THAT'S THE PART I WILL HARBORED WITH. THAT'S MY COMMENT. >> JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S VERY TARGETED AS FAR AS [OVERLAPPING] THE POPULATIONS. I MEAN, IT'D BE A BIT DIFFERENT IF IT WAS MORE INCUMBENCY OF DIFFERENT SIZED COUNTIES. >> WELL, IT'S OBVIOUSLY DRAFTED, SO IT GETS PAST. >> YEAH. HE'S TRAVELING FOR A VERY NEAR RECEPTION, SPECIFICALLY [OVERLAPPING]. >> IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYBODY ELSE. >> IF YOU PUT IT UP TO THE WHOLE STATE, IT MAY FAIL. BUT IF YOU PUT IT UP FOR JUST A REGIONAL AREA, AND THAT'S WHAT THE REGIONAL PEOPLE WANT, THEN PROBABLY MY GUESS IS THE POLITICIANS WILL GO ALONG WITH IT. DOESN'T GET MUCH BEEF AND GRIEF. >> I SEE THE PROS OF IT. WE CAN REGULATE AN ETJ. WE'RE ALLOWED TO. CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN HEALTH SAFETY. I LIKED THE COUNTIES SUBDIVISION RULES. I MIGHT NOT LIKE THEM IN FIVE YEARS LIKE NOW. THERE'S THAT SIDE OF IT. IF IT WAS TO PASS TO ME A BENEFIT, LET'S SAY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT CHANGES AND 5, 6 YEARS, SEVEN YEARS, AND THEN THEY DRAFT A DIFFERENT THING. BUT I DON'T LIKE THEN WHAT THAT'S MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS IT COULD CUT BOTH WAYS. I WISH WE WOULD FIX THE ETJ RULES. THAT RIGHT THERE IS WHAT AGGRAVATES ME TO NO END IS WHY WE CANNOT REGULATE IN THERE. BUT ALSO IF THE CITY WANTS TO CONTROL OVER THE ETJ DYNAMICS, I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. IT SHOULD. IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE DEALS WITH PEOPLE ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY, THEN IT'S US. IT SHOULD BE ON US. BUT MY HEARTBURN IS WITH WHAT HAPPENS IF IT CUTS THE OTHER WAY. THAT'S MY ISSUE WITH IT. FIX THE ETJ RULES. [01:30:02] ANYBODY ELSE? I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT. I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THE BILL. TARGETS ONE COUNTY, BASICALLY TARGETS ONE CITY IN THAT COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY CITY THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY ANYBODY THAT I'M AWARE OF REGARDING ANY OF THIS. STORY I'VE HEARD, NO OTHER THEY HAVEN'T GONE BEFORE. THE PROMOTERS OF THIS HAVEN'T GONE BEFORE ANY OTHER CITIES REQUESTING THAT THEY HAVE A HAND IN WHAT GOES ON IN NEW ETJ? IT'S JUST BEEN THE MEETINGS THAT I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH HERE REGARDING DEVELOPMENT IN A ANGLETON ETJ. I DON'T KNOW THE CODES AND EVERYTHING, BUT WE'VE GOT TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 232, 242, WHICH ADDRESSED ALL THESE THINGS AND THEY REQUIRE AN AGREEMENT THEY HEAD BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE. PLAYERS THAT WERE INVOLVED WHEN THAT AGREEMENT WAS PINNED ARE STILL PLAYERS IN THE GAME TODAY. THE COUNTY JUDGE TODAY SIGNED THAT AGREEMENT. REPRESENTATIVE LAWSUIT WAS ON CITY COUNCIL ONE AT AGREEMENT WAS PUT TOGETHER PROBABLY. SO MANY CHANGES MINOR OR HOPEFULLY HE'S REPRESENTING PEOPLE WHO ARE BRINGING THIS REQUEST TO THE LEGISLATURE. BUT THE POINT ABOUT ANNEXING PROPERTY YOU CAN'T JUST ANNEX PROPERTY WITHOUT PEOPLE ASKING YOU BE ANNEXED. THAT LAW HAS BEEN SAID. WELL, IT'S ALWAYS SUBJECT TO CHANGE TOO, AND THAT'LL ALWAYS DID. THAT'S JUST SAYING THAT LAW WAS CHANGED RECENTLY AND THEN ANOTHER LEGISLATURE IN 10 YEARS AND COME ALONG AND CHANGE THAT AGAIN. I'LL BRING YOU THE RULES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT TODAY. IF IT'S PD, YOU HAVE SOME CONTROL. YOU WANT TO REGULATE IT, ANNEX IT. WELL, WE CAN ANNEX IT UNLESS SOMEONE HAS TO BE IN ANNEX. I JUST SEE IT AS A TARGETING ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER 253 COUNTIES IN THE STATE WOULD SAY ABOUT [LAUGHTER] WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? MOST OF THEM WOULD JUST TURN A BLIND EYE SO THAT DIDN'T BOTHER ME. I DON'T CARE. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING. THE WAY MOST, IF YOU THINK OF FEDERALISM, IF YOU PASS IT HERE IN PRETORIA COUNTY, IF IT DIDN'T STARTED TO TAKE ROOT IN OTHER COUNTIES AFTER DECIDED TO BLOSSOM HERE. I HAVE JOHN'S CONCERNS. THIS IS A PROBLEM GOVERNING JUST IN GENERAL, JUST TO POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY. PEOPLE NEVER ARE GOVERNED LIKED THE OTHER PARTY IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THEY WANT TO ALWAYS COVER LIKE THEY'RE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT EVER GOING TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. HOWEVER, IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME, MAYBE IT'S NOT OBVIOUS TO EVERYBODY ON THE SPOT HERE, BUT THIS IS CLEARLY A BILL SET TO HELP US. IN OUR PRESENT SITUATION. I MEAN IT IS. YOU MAY NOT THINK IT'S A HELP, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S DRAFTED FOR, AND IT'S TARGETED TO HELP US. MAYBE YOU DON'T THINK IT'S TO HELP, THAT'S FINE. BUT THE ETJ ISSUE, WHICH I WOULD AGREE WITH JOHN AGAIN, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSED BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY ROTTEN. NOW, WHAT I'M BEING TOLD IS THE CASE LAW, AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE VERY LITTLE, IF ANY, CONTROL OVER REGULATING ANY SORT OF DENSITY, WHICH IS GOING TO AFFECT EVERYTHING IN THE CITY. WATER, DRAINAGE, ACCESS TO WATER WILL BE FIGHTING THIS ETJ DEVELOPMENT FOR WATER. IT'S COMING BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY TALKING IN TALKS WITH, I GUESS BWA THEMSELVES. AND SO I DON'T ALWAYS [01:35:01] SEE THE CITIES THAT ARE WITHIN BWA NECESSARILY WORKING TOGETHER. THEY'RE WORKING FOR THEIR INDIVIDUAL DESIRES, SO THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE ANOTHER COMPETITOR WITHIN BWA, MY WAY I READ IT. IF WE WANT TO ANNEX IT, COUNCIL MEMBER BOOTS SAYS, THEY HAVE TO ASK TO BE ANNEX. IF WE'RE JUST BEING HONEST, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ASHLAND HERE. I WOULD HAVE SINCERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ADDITION BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION, BUT I WON'T BE HERE IN 23 YEARS TO DO THIS [LAUGHTER] THAT'LL BE SOMEBODY ELSE'S DECISION AT THAT TIME. BUT I HAVE SINCERE CONCERNS BECAUSE OF FLOODING ISSUES AND YOU'RE NOW EXPOSING YOUR RESOURCES AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO AN AREA THAT'S LIKELY TO REALLY SUFFER IT'S NOT IF, LET'S BE HONEST, IT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HURRICANE, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THERE'S GOING TO BE A TROPICAL STORM. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT HAPPENS ONCE A DECADE, ONCE REALLY GOOD, MAYBE TWICE. WE'RE REALLY EXTENDING OURSELVES BY GOING THERE. ROSHARON, OTHER CITIES, THEY WANT TO LOOK AT IT, THAT'S FINE. THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AND I'M TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF MY MOUTH HERE. I'M OKAY WITH IT. I'M FOR IT. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME ACTUAL CONTROL WITHIN OUR ETJ. I WISH IT WAS US. >> I DID SPEAK TO CURTIN. >> I SEE BOTH SIDES OF IT. >> IF THIS DOES FOLLOW THROUGH, THE COUNTY GETS CONTROL, IF THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE COUNTY, HE HAS TO BE ANNEXED. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IT WOULD FORCE THE DEVELOPERS HAND? >> YES. >> TO EITHER BE ANNEXED OR NOT. IF THEY'RE ABLE TO, IF THEY'RE WITHIN PROXIMITY. >> IT WOULD BE ANNEXED. >> BUT THAT PUTS US IN A GOOD LEVERAGE POSITION THOUGH, TOO. BECAUSE IF THEY'RE WANTING TO ANNEX AND THEY DON'T WANT TO ABIDE BY THE COUNTY STANDARDS. WE CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND MAYBE MORE ENTICING THAN WHAT THE COUNTY HAS TO PROVIDE. BUT WE CAN STILL GET SOMETHING BACK IN RETURN. I'VE SAID THIS FROM TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST GOT ON HERE, I THOUGHT WE WERE IN A POSITION OF STRENGTH. WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE IN ANGLETON WORK HIGH AND DRY, WHERE THE COUNTY SEAT, WE STILL HAVE LAND DEVELOPMENT OPEN IN OUR CITY AND I'LL BE HONEST, I FEEL SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED IN THE CITY AREN'T UP TO THE STANDARD OF THE CITY. THE PAST THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN ANGLETON AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FUTURE RAMIFICATIONS FOR THAT. IT'S NOT WANTING TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GROW, TO SIT PEOPLE TO SAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT IS NOT FACTUALLY ACCURATE. THE RECORD WOULD COMPLETELY REFLECT THAT WE'VE BEEN ADDING HOMES TO ANGLETON. BUT WE SHOULD BE NEGOTIATING FROM THE HIGHEST STANDARDS POSSIBLE NOW. WE SHOULD WANT THE BEST AND THAT INCLUDES HOUSES, DRAINAGE, PARKS, WHATEVER OUR NEXT STEPS ARE. I JUST WANT US TO REALIZE THAT WE HOLD I THINK ALL THE KEYS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PASS THIS UP ANYMORE. THEY'VE ALREADY COME. THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. >> I WOULD BE LYING IF I DIDN'T ADMIT THAT ASHLAND HAS USED THE GRAY AREA OF THE ETJ AS AN ADVANTAGE FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? >> I DO. THAT'S ONE THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND. [01:40:04] THERE ARE OTHERS ALL AROUND OTHER CITIES THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING. DEVELOPING CLOSE BY. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THAT ZIP CODE. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THAT LITTLE CLUSTER LOOK THEY'RE THERE, BUT THEY'RE REALLY NOT THERE. >> WELL, I GUESS WHAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE VERY LITTLE TO CONTROL. DO WE WANT TO GIVE UP ALL CONTROL. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RECORD IS STRAIGHT. I DID SPEAK TO CODY. I DO UNDERSTAND. I'VE TALKED TO OTHERS AS WELL. THIS LEGISLATION WASN'T REALLY POINT TO THAT ANGLETON. WE DO HAVE A SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND COMPARING THIS TO. BUT THIS LEGISLATION REALLY BORE FRUIT FROM THE RENTAL HOME COMMUNITY IN BONNIE, THAT'S WHERE THIS ALL STARTED AND FOR A COMMUNITY TO SAY, WELL, WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME INTO THE CITY AND THEN, OH, BY THE WAY, COUNTY, WE NEED YOU TO MAINTAIN THOSE ROADS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE CAN'T DO IT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT. THAT'S WHAT BOTH IS. SPEAKING WITH CODY AND IN THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS, WHAT HE'S AFTER IS A CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE GOING TO DO IN ETJ, AND IF THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO ANNEX IT, THEN IT'S COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT LOCATION OR SERVICE AREA. NOT JUST ROADS BUT EVERYTHING. THAT'S WHAT HE WAS AFTER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF US ARE ARE CLEAR ON THAT. BUT FOR THOSE REASONS, I DO SUPPORT WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO. I DO THINK THAT THERE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DONE TO FIX THE AMBIGUITY. I GUESS THAT MIGHT COME UP IN THE FUTURE. BUT THAT IS REALLY THE IMPETUS OF WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT CAUSED ALL THIS. >> I FEEL THIS IS ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM OF [OVERLAPPING] >> ETJ REQUIREMENTS. >> ETJ CITY, COUNTY REQUIREMENTS. >> BUT IS BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] >> WELL, FOR US, BUT NOT OVERALL. WELL, IT'S PROVIDING A SOLUTION, WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT SOLUTION. >> EXACTLY. THAT'S MY FEAR IN SEVEN YEARS. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I CONTEMPLATE IS, SO WE HAVE THESE PEOPLE THAT SAY THEY WANT TO COME TO ANGLETON. THEY SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD IT'S GOT TO BE ON A BIG TRACT OF LAND, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT INSIDE THE CITY. THEY GO OUTSIDE THE CITY. BUT THEN WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THESE DEVELOPERS HOW TO DEVELOP IT FINANCIALLY THEY HAVE TO HAVE A MUD. WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN SAYING, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN IN-CITY MUD, THAT'S THE WHOLE BASIS OF IT. THERE'S ALL THAT BACKGROUND STUFF THAT GOES WITH HAVING IN CITY MUD, BECAUSE I GOT TO PAY FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. I GOT PAID FOR IT SOMEHOW. WHAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE FOR YEARS AND YEARS, THAT'S WHY ALL THESE MUDS ALREADY EXIST OUTSIDE THE CITY AND SO THEY CAN HAVE A MECHANISM, A FINANCIAL TOOL. I GET IT. IF THEY SAY YEAH WITH ANNEX THEN WE DO HOLD THE STRONG ARM BECAUSE THEY BUILD OUR STANDARD, THEY BUILD OUR DRAINAGE AND WHATNOT. THAT'S JUST THE PROBLEM, IS THEY CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THAT, SO THEY HAVE TO STAY IN THE ETJ, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS TILL THEY PAY THEIR MUD OFF THEN THEY COME FORTH AND COME THIS WAY, OR HAVE THE OPTION. THAT'S JUST WHERE I HAVE THE HEARTBURN IS IS WE ALL SIT UP HERE. NOW, WE'RE NOT DEVELOPERS. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT WE'VE TOLD FINANCIALLY, THESE PEOPLE CAN'T BE ABLE TO UNLESS THEY HAVE A MUD. >> WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THEM. >> YEAH AND I'VE TALKED TO OUR COUNTERPARTS NORTH, MANVILLE, AND PEARLAND. I HAVE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I HAVE CALLED ON. THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH IN THEIR CITY EXCEPT FOR PEARLAND. THEY DO HAVE SOME, BUT THEY SAY IT'S NOT THE BEST THING TO WORK WITH. THERE'S THE WHOLE WHO'S GOING TO PAY WHAT? WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT? WHO ABSORBS WHAT? THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T DO THAT. THEY HAVE THIS ISSUE UP THERE IN THE NORTHERN END, HAVING A MUD INSIDE THE CITY OR NOT IN THE CITY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW ARE WE SO DIFFERENT? HOW ARE WE SO DIFFERENT DOWN THIS WAY THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING? I'VE GOT THREE MONTHS IN. I'M DONE. TRY WHAT I TRIED, DO WHAT DID AND I'M HAPPY WITH IT. [01:45:03] WALK AWAY FROM HERE AND I'M PLEASANTLY PLEASED. I'M HAPPY, BUT IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING THAT HOW THE INFLUENCE OF INDIVIDUALS CAN PUSH AND WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS. WE'VE SAT UP HERE, JOHN FOR YEARS AND SAID THAT WE'VE HAD THIS ETJ BIG ISSUE. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN BAND, IT'S JUST HIT US ALL THE SUDDEN. BEEN NICE TO MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVERSATION, I GUESS, BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE I HAVE HARBOR. I DID REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, AND THEY HADN'T HEARD OF THIS YET BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEM AS WELL. THEY HAD NOT HEARD OF THIS PIECE OF PAPER THAT'S BEEN POTENTIALLY SEEMS TO ME AS A BILL. THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN ON THE DOWN LOW, KEPT QUIET, BUT YET IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT SOMEBODY. WHO THAT'S GOING TO BE? I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO JUST EVEN FEEL EVERYBODY'S EQUAL. THAT'S WHAT I WANT. JUST HAVE IT EQUAL. >> I JUST WANT TO DRAW OUR ATTENTION TO AUSTIN COLONY, THE TENURE TRACK OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. THAT IS A NEGOTIATION WHERE THE CITY GAINED SOMETHING. WE'RE ACTING LIKE WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE. WE CAN, WE HAVE, WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GET BASICALLY A THOROUGH FAIR THROUGH THE CITY IN EXCHANGE. WHAT DID WE HAVE TO DO? WE HAD TO GIVE UP SOMETHING WHICH IS TO MY OPINION, BELOW STANDARD, 60 FEET LOTS IS THE STANDARD IN THE CITY OF HAMILTON. WE'RE GOING BELOW STANDARD, BUT IT'S 50 IS LESS THAN 60, IT'S BELOW STANDARD. HOWEVER, WE'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING BACK IN EXCHANGE. IF OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY WHO ARE CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY ARE OUTLIERS AND THEY WANT TO ADDRESSED THAT, WE AGAIN, CAN BE IN THAT POSITION WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO WANT OUR WATER, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT OUR SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE, WHATEVER ELSE, THERE WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL WANT BACK IN EXCHANGE. SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, SOMETHING YOU'RE WILLING TO, WELL, IN CONTRACT LAW YOU CALL CONSIDERATION. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME BACK-AND-FORTH THERE. I DON'T THINK THIS STOPS US FROM ANNEXING PROPERTIES. I THINK THIS MAY BE THE OPPOSITE. I THINK THIS MAY PUSH US TO BE IN A POSITION TO NEGOTIATE. BUT I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE MUCH SMARTER THAN MYSELF OUT THERE AND THEY'LL FIND A WAY TO FIND LOOPHOLES. IT'S JUST THE REALITY. >> BECAUSE I SEE IT RIGHT NOW THE BIGGEST HINDRANCE TO BEING ABLE TO ANNEX PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO GET DEVELOPED IS WE CANNOT PROVIDE THE SERVICES FOR THEM. THE ESSENTIALS OF WATER AND SEWER, WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY. WE'RE TAPPED OUT. THERE HITS CONSEQUENTLY, THAT'S WHERE MUDS COME IN. I WILL CALL EVERY SUBDIVISION UP THERE IS A MUD, BECAUSE I WILL CALL IT AND IT DOES NOT HAVE A SANITARY SEWER WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. THEY DO NOT HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR OWN WATER WELL. I'M SPEAKING OUT OF TURN HERE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM OF THEIR OWN. THAT'S WHY ALL THOSE DEVELOPMENTS UP THERE ARE MUD. I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY OTHER CITY UP THAT WAY. >> COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT I DID SHARE THE BILL WITH ALL OF THE CITY ATTORNEYS IN MISSOURI COUNTY. THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES THAT IF YOU PASS A LAW, THAT'S GOING TO BE APPLIED JUST TO ONE PLACE, IT'S A SPECIAL LOCAL LAW, THE TERMINOLOGY, IT'S NOTICED AS THE LOCAL OR SPECIAL LAW. THE SECTION 57 OF ARTICLE 3 OF THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES 30 DAYS PUBLICATION BEFORE IT CAN BE FILED. THE FILING DEADLINE RIGHT NOW IS MARCH 10TH. I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS LIKELY DEAD BECAUSE IF THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE IT AND FILE IT, THEY SHOULD HAVE PUBLISHED, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 30 DAYS BEFORE THE FILING. I DON'T THINK THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE ALL KNOW THAT THINGS CAN FILE REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE RULES SAY. BUT I SUPPOSE WHAT I'M ALSO SAYING IS THAT IF IT DOES GET FILED, IT'S VIOLATING OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT IT HASN'T BEEN PUBLISHED AS FAR AS I KNOW. SINCE ALL OF THE CITY ATTORNEYS IN MISSOURI COUNTY KNOW THAT NOW, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IF IT'S NOT DONE PROPERLY THAT SOMEBODY IN THE COUNTY MAY RAISE THAT ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW THAT ACTUALLY, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE I'VE SHARED IT WITH ALL THE CITY ATTORNEYS. >> MY QUESTION IS IF THEY GO INTO SPECIAL SESSION, IS THAT PERIOD TOLD ANYWAY? NAME IS ALWAYS INTO THE SPECIAL SESSION. [01:50:01] >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. ALL I KNOW IS THAT IN ORDER THAT THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES THE PUBLICATION. >> I'M JUST SAYING IF THEY WERE ACTION TO BE PUBLISHED WHAT CODY WALKS ON THE FLOOR IT OUT TOMORROW, PUTS THIS BILL DOWN. IT GOES INTO PAPER 30 DAYS. IT'S NOT TIME. [OVERLAPPING] >> PUBLISHED BEFORE. >> I UNDERSTAND. ANYWAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING BY THE FACT THAT SAY THE GOVERNOR CALLS A SPECIAL SESSION AT A LATER TIME, DOES THAT TOLD THE 30 DAYS WILL BE BASICALLY IN EFFECT? >> I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW BECAUSE A SPECIAL SESSION IS USUALLY CALLED AFTER THE END OF A REGULAR SESSION. YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL AND ANTICIPATED. ALL THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR YOUR DEADLINES TO FALL INTO PLACE PROPERLY. BUT THIS IS NOT AN AREA OF LAW IN MY PRACTICE. >> I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF IT WAS A WAY FOR [OVERLAPPING] I TO GET AROUND THAT. >> I'LL BE SHARING WITH YOU WHAT THE OTHER MISSOURI COUNTY CITY ATTORNEY SHARED WITH ME THAT THERE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT FOR THE PUBLICATION. I DON T KNOW IF HE'S PUBLISHED. I THINK IF IT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE MISSOURI COUNTY FACTS THAT SOMEBODY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT. I READ THE FACTS EVERY DAY. [LAUGHTER] >> I JUST LOOK AT THE OBITUARY FROM RIGHT THERE. [LAUGHTER] >> I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST ADDING THAT AS INFORMATION AS WHAT I'VE HEARD SINCE I'VE BEEN TOLD [OVERLAPPING]. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> I KNOW WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS AND OPINIONS, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT EACH ONE OF US PERSONALLY IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. IS THERE GOING TO BE A SOLUTION TONIGHT? NO. IS THERE GOING TO BE A SOLUTIONS IN AUSTIN? I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST BAFFLING SOMETIMES. >> MAYOR, IT HELPS GET TO THE CONVERSATION GOING. >> YES, SIR. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WILL DEFINITELY SPARK CONVERSATION. PROBABLY FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER, FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST OF THIS COUNTY. CHRIS, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TONIGHT OR THIS WAS JUST MORE FOR US TO VISIT, TALK, GET OUR BLOOD PRESSURE UP, LOOK ANGRY AT EACH OTHER AND THEN WE WILL ALL WALK AWAY BE HAPPY. ANYTHING ELSE, GUYS OR GIRLS? WE'LL MOVE ALONG. SOMEBODY WAS ALMOST RIGHT. DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THIS NEXT ITEM LAST, CHRIS, YOU MAY HAVE HIT THE MARK. >> YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] >> LAST 18 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230215-018. [18. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230215-018 of the City of Angleton, Texas amending Chapter 17 Parks and Recreation Article II. Park and Recreation Board Section 17-19 Rules of Procedure; Quorum, Open Meetings, Records and amending Section 17-20 Power and Duties; of the Angleton Texas Code of Ordinances and amending Section 17-20 Powers and Duties; providing penalty; providing for severability; providing for repeal; and providing an effective date.] THE CITY OF ANGLETON TEXAS AMENDING CHAPTER 17 PARKS AND RECREATION ARTICLE TO PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, SECTION 17-19, RULES OF PROCEDURE, QUORUM, OPENING MEETINGS, RECORDS, AND AMENDING SECTION 17-20 POWER AND DUTIES OF THE ANGLETON TEXAS CODE OF ORDINANCES. AMENDING SECTION 17-20, POWERS AND DUTIES, PROVIDING PENALTY, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MS. MEGAN? >> YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL? AGAIN, THIS IS NOT FIRST TIME THIS HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU ALL, BUT WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK AS THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE REVISION ON JUNE 28TH OF 2022. CITY COUNCIL DID DISCUSS THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, INCLUDING REDUNDANCIES OF WORK AND AGENDA ITEMS WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AS WELL AS ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION, AND ASK THAT WE PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MOVING FORWARD. RANDALL LAW OFFICE DID PROVIDE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ON JULY 26TH, WHERE CITY COUNCIL DID MEET AGAIN. CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED FEEDBACK FROM BOTH ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. WE DID MEET WITH AVLC ON OCTOBER 3RD, AS WELL AS OR EXCUSE ME, SEPTEMBER 12TH, AND ON OCTOBER 3RD WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO BRING UP ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THEY MIGHT HAVE REGARDING CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE, AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE STRUCTURED, WHETHER IT'D BE A SUBCOMMITTEE, OR JUST A CHANGE OF POWERS AND DUTIES. I CAN SAY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY WRITTEN FEEDBACK ON THAT AFTER THE MEETING, SUBSEQUENT TO THOSE MEETINGS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN THE MEETINGS WERE REVOLVES AROUND REDUCING TOPIC REDUNDANCY, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD, MAINTAINING A PARK ADVOCACY GROUP, AND MINIMIZING THE CONFLICT OF INPUT FROM EACH GROUP. THERE WERE TIMES WHERE WE BRING AN ITEM TO THE PARKS BOARD, THEY WOULD HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AND AVLC WOULD HAVE A COUNTER RECOMMENDATION, AND SO IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO HAVE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD. WHILE TYPICALLY CITY COUNCIL PROVIDES THAT FINAL AUTHORITY AND RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO IRON OUT THOSE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. AGAIN, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK OUTSIDE OF THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS. [01:55:02] WE DID HAVE A PLAN SCHEDULED PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, PARKS BOARD THIS MONDAY, IT DID NOT MEET DUE TO LACK OF CORN, SO THEY DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE, AND THEIR PACKET THAT WAS PUBLISHED ONLINE, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. TONIGHT WE'RE PRESENTING THE ORDINANCE REVISION, WHICH INCLUDES REVISING THE NUMBER OF REGULAR MEETINGS HELD BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. MODIFYING THE MANDATORY NUMBER OF MEETINGS, AND REVISING THE MANDATORY POWERS, AND DUTIES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. WHAT YOU HAVEN'T CLOSED IS A REPEAL AND REVISION OF THAT ORDINANCE. OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU, MS. MEGAN. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR HER OR STAFF? >> JUST A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON. PARKS BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1965. THERE WAS NO PARKS DEPARTMENT AND SO THAT RAN PARKS BUSINESS. WHAT WAS IT? 2000 AVLC WAS ESTABLISHED, AND IN THE GOODNESS OF HOW WE REVIEW THINGS PERIODICALLY, WE'VE NEVER REALLY TAKEN A LOOK AT THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, PROBABLY UNTIL RECENTLY. I THINK IT'S A GOOD MOVE WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, IT GETS RID OF ALL THE REDUNDANCIES. IT KEEPS PARKS AS A ADVISORY COMMITTEE. IT'S JUST LIKE THE PERIODIC REVIEW WE NEVER DID, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE DONE BUNCH OF YEARS AGO, BUT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT THINGS UNTIL MAYBE HAVE CONFLICTS, OR CONFLICTING DECISIONS, OR GUIDANCE AND MAKES YOU SAY, MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL. WE DON'T HAVE TO ACT UPON IT TONIGHT. WE'RE JUST REALLY SOCIALIZING THIS AND LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN BRING IT BACK AND DO WHAT YOU ALL SAID IS COME BACK AND TELL US HOW OR WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE. >> THANK YOU, SIR. NO THERE'S GOT TO BE A COMMENT OR TWO OUT THERE. >> 7:58, I'M WAITING TWO MINUTES. [LAUGHTER] >> I'M ALL FOR MINIMIZING REDUNDANCY, AND OVERLAPS, AND CREATING CONFLICTS WHERE THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE CONFLICTS, AND SO THAT WE HAVE A MORE COHESIVE, NOT WASTING STAFF'S TIME, NOT WASTING OUR VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TIME, AND JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WILL RUN MORE SMOOTHLY. >> COUNCIL WOMAN DANIEL'S TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH, HAS BASICALLY SAID THE SAME THING. ANY CHANCE TO STREAMLINE AND MOTORIZE, ELIMINATE BUREAUCRACY SHOULD BE DONE. I THINK IT IS GOOD TO BE CONSCIENCE OF STAFF'S TIME, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL, AND I ALREADY SAID THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S A HEAVY CONSIDERATION. >> I WILL SAY THAT IN THE PAST, THESE TWO BOARDS OPERATING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER. IT WASN'T UNTIL LAKESIDE. WELL, JUST EVEN BEFORE LAKESIDE I FEEL IS WHEN WE STARTED REALLY BASICALLY, HAVING THE SAME MEETING TWICE, THEY USED TO NOT DO THE EXACT SAME THING. THEN, SOMEHOW WE GOT ONTO THAT TRACK WHETHER THEY WERE GETTING THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY REDUNDANT, AND NOT CONDUCIVE FOR ANYBODY. BUT I'M FINE WITH STREAMLINING AND PROVING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE NEVER LOSE TRACK OF WHAT THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE MEANT FOR AND THAT THEY DON'T, I GUESS OVERLAP OTHERWISE, WHAT'S THE POINT? AVLC WAS FOUNDED FOR FUNDING PROJECTS FOR THE PARKS AND FOR DRAINAGE AND PARKS BOARD WAS FOR THE PROGRAMMING AND WHAT THEY WANTED IT TO DO, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE LONGEST STANDING BOARDS IN THE IN THE CITY, AND SOMEHOW WE ALL GOT OFF TRACK IN THERE SOMEWHERE. BUT HOPEFULLY, THAT THIS WILL FIX A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES. >> I DO THINK IT WILL JUST TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT, JOHN, THERE ARE SPECIFICALLY, THERE WAS A COMPONENT THAT WAS OVERLAPPING WITH AVLC AND PARKS BOARD IN WHICH PARKS BOARD HAD THE POWER TO RECOMMEND [02:00:05] PARK AMENITIES AND HOW THOSE ARE DEVELOPED AS AVLC ALSO DID. THERE'S SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN THERE, WHICH AGAIN, YOU MENTIONED LAKESIDE PARK, THAT'S WHERE WE GOT REALLY HEAVY INTO IT, AND SO EVERYONE HAD THEIR OPINION ON WHAT THOSE PARK AMENITIES WERE, HOW THEY SHOULD FUNCTION. BUT YES, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A MORE STREAMLINED PROCESS WHERE REALLY THE OVERSIGHT FOR OUR DEPARTMENT WILL BE IN POLICY DEVELOPMENTAL,OR REALLY BE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH ENCOMPASSES PARK AMENITIES, POLICIES, PROGRAMS, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED. THEY'LL HELP US KEEP ON TRACK ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND HELP TO PRIORITIZE OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN. >> YES. >> IF YOU'RE ALL GOOD, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS THERE, SO WE'D HAVE PASSED THE 08:00 RULES. [LAUGHTER] I WILL BE SHORT AND SWEET. WE HAVE AN ACTUAL ITEM >> MR. MAYOR? >> GO AHEAD, SIR. >> I MOVE WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 202-302-15- 018, AMENDING THE CHAPTER 17 PARKS AND RECREATION ARTICLE 2. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. >> I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> HAVE MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, RIGHT SECOND. BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? [BACKGROUND] MAYOR PRO TEM RIGHT. MOTION. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND SECONDS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> NO WAY I WOULD SAY IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT BUT IT HASN'T. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE? ALL THOSE FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAYS AYE. THAT MOTION CARRIES, AND THAT ALWAYS BRINGS US TO THE BEST PART OF THE MEETING. ADJOURNMENT 8: 02. [NOISE] * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.