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>> EVENING PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.
[NOISE] WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE CAN CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 05:31.
[1. Minutes from Regular Called meeting on September 12, 2022.]
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS MINUTES FROM REGULAR CALLED MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2022.>> A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2022.
>> THAT'S THE LAST TIME WE MET.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[2. Discussion and possible action on a Parks & Recreation Board chair.]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD CHAIR.THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE HAD A SUBMISSION OF RESIGNATION THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE TOMORROW.
WE WILL HAVE A BOARD VACANCY AND THAT WILL BE BONNIE MCDANIEL.
>> SO DO YOU [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> JAIME, WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM 2, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD CHAIR.
>> ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE THE CHAIR?
>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT JAIME BE OUR CHAIR SINCE HE'S SITTING IN THE RIGHT SEAT AND HE WAS THE LAST ONE IN. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'LL SECOND IT. [LAUGHTER].
>> IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? [LAUGHTER]
>> NOW WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S BEEN HERE THE LONGEST, BUT THESE GUYS DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
>> YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN I HAVE.
>> WE DO HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
>> WELL, THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE ANYONE ELSE OR IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION.
>> [INAUDIBLE] ARE YOU INTERESTED IN HERE?
>> I WOULD NEED TO HAVE A LIST OF RESPONSIBILITIES IN FRONT OF ME. DUKE, YOU WANT IT?
>> THE PAY IS REAL GOOD. [LAUGHTER]
>> FOR ME, IT'S MEGAN. HAVE YOU BEEN HERE LONG?
>> THESE TWO HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN ME.
>> I AGREE. BUT IF THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY WANT TO DO IT.
>> IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, THEN I GUESS BETWEEN THE TWO.
>> WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE [OVERLAPPING]
>> GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT TO A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF JAIME MERINO [NOISE] BEING THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD CHAIR, SAY AYE.
>> ANY OF THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
>> I KNOW, I CAN'T OPPOSE IT. [LAUGHTER]
>> I MEAN, I COULD IF I WANTED TO, BUT IT'S FINE.
>> ANY OTHERS OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[3. Discussion on Athletic Sports Association 2023 capital needs]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM 3 ON ATHLETIC SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS 2023, CAPITAL NEEDS.WE DID INVITE ALL OF THE LOCAL SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS TO ATTEND THE MEETING OR IF THEY COULD NOT PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK SO THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTOOD AS A BOARD, SOME OF THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDS.
THIS WILL HELP GUIDE AND DIRECT STAFF ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED AND PROPOSED IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
THIS TIME WE DO HAVE ANGLETON SOCCER CLUB HERE.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS? I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ANGLETON SOCCER CLUB.
>> AT LEAST IT'LL BE SHORT THIS WAY.
DUSTIN MERCADO WITH THE ANGLETON SOCCER CLUB PRESIDENT, ALSO HAVE MY VP, SECRETARY, TREASURER, AND REGISTRAR WITH US.
JUST COME IN TO SHOW YOU ALL WE'RE HERE PUTTING IN WORK, THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE THE MAJORITY OF US FOR A FEW YEARS NOW ON THE BOARD.
MEGAN'S ALREADY AWARE OF IT JUST TO COME TO ECHO.
I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE FIELD DRAINAGE AND CROWNING.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, YOU'D HAVE TO SEE IT FOR YOURSELF, BUT YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE CROWN ON THE FIELDS, BUT IT NEEDS A LOT OF ATTENTION AND YOU CAN'T JUST CROWN A FIELD AND THEN PUSH THE WATER TO WHERE THE SPECTATORS ARE.
THERE'S 10 ACRES OF PLAYING FIELDS, NOT TO MENTION THE IN-BETWEEN AREAS.
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THAT'S OUR MAIN NUMBER ONE CONCERN.IF WE CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CANCEL AS MANY PRACTICES OR GAMES WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THAT.
IT LEAVES THE CITIZENS IRRITATED WHEN IT'S WEEKEND AFTER WEEKEND WHEN OTHER AREAS GET TO PLAY, IF IT'S NOT A TORRENTIAL DOWNPOUR OVER AND OVER.
IS THAT THE ORIGINAL BUILDING POSSIBLY, MEGAN? IT SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE.
[LAUGHTER] WE'RE NOT OPEN ARMS ABOUT THE BUILDING ITSELF, BUT THE ROOF HAS ROTTED AWAY TO WHERE WATER DOESN'T GET TO THE GUTTERS AND IT JUST FALLS DOWN ON THE SIDEWALKS ALONG THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
[NOISE] THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS ATTENTION AND IF THERE WERE ANY PLANS TO PUT A NEW BUILDING IN, IT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO ADD STORAGE WITHIN THE BUILDING FOR KUBOTA OR GATOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LIKE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL HAVE IN THERE.
>> YES, SIR. WE THOUGHT IT WAS GUTTERS AT FIRST, BUT THEN IT ACTUALLY TURN OUT TO BE THE ROOF ITSELF, SO IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE REPAIR.
THIS PAST YEAR, WE DID PITCH IN ALONG WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE CITY OR PARK'S BOARD TO PUT AN AC AND THAT BUILDING BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ONE FOR THE CONCESSION STANDS.
THAT'S BEEN AN IMPROVEMENT RIGHT THERE.
MUCH BETTER ALREADY WITH JUST ADDING THAT.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TWO LIGHTED FIELDS AND THEY'RE THE U13 PLUS AGE GROUPS, WHICH BY THAT POINT, KIDS ARE GOING TO START SOCCER AND IN SCHOOL OR DRILLING DOWN IN NUMBERS, SO YOU DON'T HAVE AS MANY PARTICIPATE IN THE END UP NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE A TEAM, WHETHER IT'S OUR COMMUNITY OR LIKE JACKSON, FREEPORT, ANYWHERE ELSE THAT WE PLAY WITHIN OUR ASSOCIATION.
THEY'RE USEFUL, BUT IT WILL BE MORE USEFUL TO ADD LIGHTS TO THE NEXT AGE GROUP DOWN U11 AND 12, IT'S A SMALLER FIELD SIZE AND YOU ALSO GET TO TOURNAMENT AGE.
BEING ABLE TO PLAY WHAT THEY CALL COMPETITIVE, IT'S LIKE SELECT BASEBALL, BUT SOCCER THEY CALL COMPETITIVE.
IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE'RE CURRENTLY SAVING UP THROUGH FUNDRAISING AND OUR REGISTRATIONS.
AMY SAID WE HAVE CURRENTLY 46,000 SAVINGS.
WE'VE GOT EARMARKING A CHUNK OF THAT TO PUT IN AND LOOK TO THE CITY TO COLLABORATE ON GETTING THE LIGHTING ON TWO MORE FIELDS POSSIBLY.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE LINED UP FOR THAT, NOR DO WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST OR MOST COST-EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO THAT.
WE'LL LEAN ON YOU ALL FOR THAT.
A QUICK UPDATE FOR THE CLUB AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO SPEAK TO THE EFFORTS.
FOR THESE 78 GOALS, WE JUST BOUGHT THOSE THE SPRING.
WE SPENT ABOUT $10,000 ON U7/8 AGE GROUP GOALS.
WE WENT FROM THE LITTLE ONES YOU COULD BUY AT ACADEMY FOR A COUPLE OF HUNDRED BUCKS [NOISE] THAT FALL APART AND WE'D HAVE THEY LAST A SEASON OR TWO.
WE'VE GOT THESE AT R LUNA CONSTRUCTION.
HEAVY-DUTY, AREN'T GOING TO BLOW AROUND.
WE'VE BEEN SLOWLY REPLACING GOALS.
OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE SPENT OVER, WAS IT 30 OR 40 FOR ALL THE REST? YEAH, 35.
SO ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER FIELDS WE HAVE FOUR U7, 8 FIELDS, FOUR U4, 5, 6 FIELDS FOR THE LITTLE GUYS. BUT THEN GOING UP FROM THERE WE HAVE THREE U9, 10 FIELDS, THREE U11, 12 FIELDS AND THEN THREE U13 PLUS FIELDS SO IMAGINE ALL THAT IN ABOUT 10 ACRES IS WHAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF AND TRYING TO KEEP READY FOR ALL THE PATRONS OF THE PARK AND PEOPLE IN OUR PROGRAM.
LOTS OF MONEY IN THAT AND GOOD INVESTMENTS, IT GETS EXPENSIVE SO IT GOES BY THE WAYSIDE OR THERE'S NOT FUNDING FOR IT.
OUR NUMBERS HAVE STEADILY INCREASED.
WE'VE HAD OUR HIGHEST SPRING REGISTRATION AMOUNT THIS YEAR WITH 346 PLAYERS BEING REGISTERED.
OUR FALL USED TO BE ABOUT DOUBLE BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE FINALLY GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT LOSING HALF TO EITHER BASEBALL OR JUST NOT PLAYING.
OUR FALL RUNS ABOUT 420-440 AND THOSE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED SEASON OVER SEASON AND ALSO SO WE'RE DOING GOOD THINGS, WE'RE HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND TO MAKE THE CLUB SHINE SO ANY HELP WE CAN GET IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED.
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>> REAL QUICK. WHAT'S YOUR BREAK DOWN ON AGES?
>> WE'LL YOU COME BACK TO THEM.
>> FOR SOCCER THEY START AT YEAR, 2018 WAS THE YOUNGEST SO THREE-YEAR-OLD KIDS WITH 2018 BIRTHDAYS COULD PLAY ALL THE WAY UP TO, I GUESS, WE HAD A COMBINED U13, 14 TEAM THAT WE COACHED BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TO MAKE ONE TEAM OF U13, ONE OF U14, SO WE GOT ALL THE WAY UP TO U14 FOR ONE MIX MATCH TEAM BUT NORMALLY U13 IS WHERE WE STOP SO 12-YEAR-OLDS.
>> YOU HAD THREE FIELDS FOR THE AGE GROUPS BUT DO YOU HAVE A PRETTY EVEN TEAM OR TEAM COUNT ON THOSE THREE FIELDS AS FAR AS USE?
>> NOT AS MUCH, IT'S OUR MOST LIKELY USED FIELDS BUT WE DO HAVE OUR OTHER COMPETITIVE TEAMS THAT THEY UTILIZE THOSE FIELDS BECAUSE THAT'S THE TURNING POINT IF THEY'RE NOT DOING REC SOCCER BUT THEY STILL WANT TO DO SOCCER AND THEY WANT TO GET MORE SERIOUS WITH IT THE NUMBERS START TO ALSO GO TO THE COMPETITIVE GROUP.
>> THE FIGURES THAT YOU GAVE US THAT INCLUDED THE COMPETITIVE TEAM OR THAT'S JUST. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S JUST REC IN OUR FIGURES.
IT USED TO BE INCLUDED BUT NOW IT'S SEPARATED SO THERE'S LOTS OF KIDS INVOLVED.
>> THE LAST TIME REMEMBER US DOING THIS WE TALKED ABOUT DRAINAGE, YOU TALKED ABOUT LIGHTING.
YOU TALKED ABOUT RESURFACING THE PAVILION WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL GOT TO DO THAT.
>> THEN DID YOU EVER GET THE VEHICLE THAT YOU ALL BEEN WANTING TO MOVE AROUND DURING SUPPLIES, YOU-ALL WERE ABLE TO GET THAT ALREADY?
>> THROUGH FUNDRAISING AND AMY OUR TREASURER FILLED OUT A GRANT TO GET FROM OUR ASSOCIATION SO WE ARE A CLUB TO THEM AND THAT'S OUR ASSOCIATION OVER ALL OF SOUTH TEXAS THEY GIVE OUT $10,000 GRANTS WE'VE GOTTEN THAT ONCE OR TWICE, TWICE NOW.
>> FOR LIGHTING PURPOSES YOU'RE TALKING MORE WHOLE PART NOT NECESSARILY JUST THOSE TWO INDIVIDUAL FIELDS THAT HAVE THE LIGHTING?
>> I'M GLAD YOU REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE DON'T HAVE LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOT.
WE DID GET ONE LIGHT INSTALLED AS A TEST PIECE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE GATE WHICH IS HELPFUL BUT IF YOU'RE OUT THERE AND THE LAST TEAM PROBABLY SHUTS OFF THE LIGHTS, THEY GOT TO WALK THE FIELD IN THE DARK.
>> BECAUSE THE TWO THAT LIT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE FAR BACK SO IF I'M PRACTICING ON ONE OF THE FIELDS IT'S UP AGAINST THE DRAINAGE JUST ON THE BACKEND LIGHTS GO OFF YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH DARK?
>> YEAH. IT WOULD BE EASIEST TO TIE IN ON THAT THIRD BIGGEST FIELD IN THE CORNER BUT WE DON'T NEED THAT LIGHT SO WE'D WANT TO MOVE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COMPLEX TO THE NEXT FIELD DOWN IN SIZE AND AGE GROUP.
>> FOR PURPOSES OF THE ORGANIZATION IT'S MORE FOR PRACTICE PURPOSES SO THAT EVERY TEAM CAN HAVE GOOD PRACTICE TIME.
HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, I HAD LIGHTS THAT WOULD LIGHT UP MOST OF THE PARK WHICH I DIDN'T GO NIGHT GAMES EVEN OR IS IT MORE FOR PRACTICE PURPOSES BECAUSE I KNOW IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TIME OF THE YEAR HOW DARK IT GETS AND WHEN IT GETS DARK.
>> WITH TIME CHANGE AND HOW THE DAYS ARE SHORT AND UNTIL THAT HAPPENS MANY TEAMS USE THEM IN SOME FUNNEL OVER TO THE BIGGER FIELDS TO GET THE LIGHT SO IT WOULD HELP MOST OF THE PRACTICE.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE SOUTH EASTERN SO OF OUR WHOLE SOUTH TEXAS THERE'S EASTERN AND WESTERN AND WE GOT THE EASTERN GIRLS DISTRICT PLAYOFF GAMES A YEAR AGO AND WE DIDN'T NEED THEM BUT THERE'S A TIME IF WE WANTED TO GET THE BOYS THAT HAS ALMOST DOUBLE THE NUMBERS WHERE THEY MAY NEED LIGHTS AND THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THE U11 AND 12 FIELDS.
>> DRAINAGE PURPOSES WE'RE TALKING MORE LIKE FIXING THE CROWNS AND ALSO ADDING MORE BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I WENT YOU JUST HAD THE DRAINAGE REALLY ON THE OUTLET PERIMETER OF IT BUT NOTHING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, RIGHT?
>> IT'D BE ADDING MORE POTENTIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELDS IF WE COULD.
>> WE ARE WORKING WITH A LOCAL DEVELOPER THAT NEEDS DIRT TO RAISE THE ELEVATION OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL SITES BUT THEIR PLANS ACTUALLY WHAT THEY'LL BE EXCAVATING THEY WILL HAVE DIRT IN EXCESS SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH
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COUNTY AT POSSIBLY ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND OF COURSE WHATEVER RESOURCES THE CITY HAS TO TAKE THAT ADDITIONAL DIRT.THEY HAVE ALL THE DIRT WE NEED AND MORE IF WE CAN TRANSPORT IT. [NOISE]
>> WE'RE WORKING ON ANOTHER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES, PARTNERING AGENCIES TO BRING THAT UP I THINK IT WAS FOUR INCHES ACROSS THE BOARD ON ALL FIELDS BUT LIKE DUSTIN MENTIONED YOU CAN'T JUST CROWN OFF THE FIELD YOU'VE GOT TO THEN ADD FRENCH DRAINS TO GET IT OUT TO THE CULVERTS AND THE CULVERTS HAVE TO BE RE-DUG, SO THAT DRAINAGE TAKES IT ALL THE WAY OUT TO SH 288.
WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE SLOPES EVERYTHING IS ENGINEERED TO FLOW OUT IT CURRENTLY WHILE IT PROBABLY WAS ORIGINALLY IT'S GROWN OVER TIME AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
IT'S GOING TO ALSO REQUIRE THE IRRIGATION BE RAISED AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT PROJECT.
>> I'M NOT MISTAKEN THIS IS THE SOCCER COMPLEX THAT'S NEXT TO THE BRAZORIA COUNTY FIRE FIELD, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] I'VE TRIED TO PULL INTO THE PARKING LOT OF THE [NOISE] FIRE FIELD WITH TORRENTIAL RAIN AND I ACTUALLY COULD NOT SAFELY GET [NOISE] IN THERE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WATER.
>> I NOTICED THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING TO COUNTY AT THIS POINT ABOUT SOME RESOURCES THEN FOR THAT.
>> SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WOULD BE REQUESTING FROM THEM IS THEIR ASSISTANCE FROM THEIR ROAD AND BRIDGE CREW TO JUST HELP US WITH TRUCKLOADS OF DIRT FOR DUMPING AFTER SEASON'S OVER SO IT MAY BE DUMPED ON SITE, IT MAY JUST BE TIMELY WHERE IT HAPPENS AFTER SEASON IS OVER BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE WHETHER THAT'D BE THE COUNTY OR ANOTHER INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR TO ACTUALLY GRADE IT PROPERLY BUT ADDITIONALLY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS FOR FRENCH DRAINS.
OUR PUBLIC WORK STAFF MAY BE ABLE TO RE-DIG THE CULVERTS BUT THAT'S THE INTENT AFTER WE RECROWN THE FIELDS, WE HAVE FRENCH DRAIN, THE WATER IS FLOWING OUT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ACTUALLY GETS TO SH 288.
>> WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DITCH GOING OUT TO THE BIGGER DITCH DOWN THE HIGHWAY, IS THAT THE HIGHWAY OR IS THAT THE COUNTY OR ADD?
>> BECAUSE IT IS LOTS OF GRASS, LOTS OF TREES IF THEY GET THAT DUG OUT IT WOULD HELP.
>> RIGHT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE'RE ADDING TO THE EXISTING SITE THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT APPROVES THE PROJECT, THE MEASUREMENTS, EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING.
IT'S NO EASY FEAT BUT WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
>> HAVE WE LOOKED INTO WHAT THE COST FOR LIGHTNING WOULD BE?
WE'RE LOOKING AT I BELIEVE IT WAS A QUARTER OF A MILLION WHEN WE LAST GOT THAT QUOTED BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FOLKS AND SO WE DID RECENTLY, I BELIEVE STEWART TURNED IN JUST FOR THE PARKING LOT AND I THINK THESE WERE SOLAR LIGHTS.
SOLAR LIGHTS JUST FOR THAT FRONT PARKING LOT WAS AROUND 86,000.
THEY'RE BIG TICKET ITEMS SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME FUNDING AND PRIORITIES SO THAT'S WHAT WE WILL THEN BE TALKING ABOUT IN ONE OF OUR FUTURE ITEMS. HERE IS JUST SOME OF THE PRIORITIES OF OUR LOCAL SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS THAT WOULD IT NOT ONLY BENEFIT THEM BUT ANY PARK USER.
WE HAVE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC THAT GO AND UTILIZE ALL OF THESE PARKS THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING BUT YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF ITEMS OPERATION MAINTENANCE-WISE THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AND I BELIEVE AN UPCOMING ITEM.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE AND SPENDING YOUR EVENING WITH US TO TELL US WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE. I'M SURE PARKS BOARD APPRECIATES THAT AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT. IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO FOUR AND THEN WE'LL RECAP SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ON FIVE THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
[4. Discussion on Ordinance No. 20230215-018 of the City of Angleton, Texas amending Chapter 17 Parks and Recreation Article II. Park and Recreation Board Section 17-19 Rules of Procedure; Quorum, Open Meetings, Records and amending Section 17-20 Power and Duties; of the Angleton Texas Code of Ordinances and amending Section 17- 20 Powers and Duties; providing penalty; providing for severability; providing for repeal; and providing an effective date. ]
ITEM 4 IS DISCUSSION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 202 30215-18 OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, AMENDING CHAPTER 17 PARKS AND RECREATION ARTICLE 2 PARK AND RECREATION BOARD SECTION 17-19, RULES OF PROCEDURE, QUORUM, OPEN MEETINGS, RECORDS, AND AMENDING SECTION 17-20, POWER AND DUTIES OF THE ANGLETON, TEXAS CODE OF ORDINANCES AND AMENDING SECTION 17-20, POWERS AND DUTIES,[00:20:02]
PROVIDING PENALTY, PROVIDING SEPARABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.AS YOU GUYS MAY RECALL IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, WE DID MEET THE CITY COUNCIL, A APRC, AND PARK'S BOARD TO DISCUSS THE OVERLAP OF DUTIES.
WE DID HAVE OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, PROVIDE SOME SUGGESTIONS TO THE APRC, THE BOARD, AND CITY COUNCIL.
THOSE ACTUALLY WERE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO, I THINK OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD SCHEDULED, THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM.
WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH HAVING THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND IT WAS APPROVED.
THE MAIN ITEMS THAT WERE REVISED WHERE THE NUMBER OF REGULAR MEETINGS HELD BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, MODIFYING THE MANDATORY NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND REVISING THE MANDATORY POWER OF DUTIES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION [NOISE] I HAVE ENCLOSED THAT ORDINANCE FOR YOUR REVIEW AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IT AND IF YOU NEED ANY CLARIFICATION, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TODAY.
>> SINCE WE DIDN'T GET TO DISCUSS IT PREVIOUSLY BUT I THINK SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT I HAD CONCERN WITH BACK IN WHENEVER IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER [LAUGHTER] I THINK A LOT OF THOSE ACTUALLY WERE ADDRESSED AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR CITY MANAGER WAS COMING FROM [INAUDIBLE] IT'S BEING A SEPARATE ENTITY.
OVER TIME, IF IT'S NOT UTILIZED, THEN YOU CAN GO BACK AND MAKE THE CHANGE.
BUT I THINK HAVING SOMEONE THAT'S ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING AS OPPOSED TO GETTING MIXED UP WITH THE FUNDING IS PROBABLY A GOOD DIVIDE.
>> THANK YOU. IT'S REALLY MOSTLY HOW WE WERE ACTING, WE HAD A SAY OR WE THOUGHT WE HAD A SAY, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY POWER WITH DEFENDING ANYWAY.
>> MIGHT BE APRC IS BASICALLY A FUNDING [OVERLAPPING]
>> EXACTLY WE WERE. THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING [OVERLAPPING]
>> I KNOW BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO BE PART OF WHAT WE DO AS BEING A SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH SAME KIND OF AWKWARD TO ME.
>> TO ME, THEY HAVE THE FUNDING RESPONSIBILITY.
>> NOW, WE BRING THE IDEAS FOR THINGS THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE FUNDED AND THEN I DECIDE YES OR NO.
>> THAT TOO WE HAVE WORK TOWARDS CHANGING WHAT THAT FORMAT LOOKS LIKE FOR APRC.
JUST THIS PAST, I THINK IT WAS JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED PROJECTS AND IT WAS JUST THAT IT WAS A LIST OF THINGS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED.
THEY TOOK ACTION ON A COUPLE, AND THAT WAS IT.
WE PLAN TO PROCEED IN THAT WAY.
AS YOU ALL MEET AND TALK TO US AND PROVIDE DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU THINK ON OUR PROJECT PRIORITIES, WE WILL THEN COLLECT THE PRICING, PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO FUNDING ENTITIES, WHETHER THAT A CITY COUNCIL OR A APRC, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT GETS APPROVED FINANCIALLY IN EITHER OF THOSE AREAS.
I THINK IT REALLY IS WORKING BETTER IN THAT WAY ALREADY.
>> IN THE PAST, WE REPORTED TO COUNCIL AGAINST THE LIGHT WAS BEFORE.
NOW, WE REPORT TO YOU IN A WAY.
>> YOU'LL DIRECT PRIORITIES TO COUNCIL TO AS YOU AS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
>> IT SEEMS THEY TOOK THAT OUT.
SAID WE REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PARKS DIRECTOR INSTEAD, BEFORE IT SAID WE WROTE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
>> THAT'S HOW IT WAS WORKING ANY WAY.
>> I THINK THE MAIN REASON THAT WAS DONE, IF YOU RECALL, THE PARK'S BOARD WAS ORIGINATED BEFORE THERE WAS AN ACTUAL PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT OR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
NOW IT'LL STILL FUNNEL TO EITHER APRC OR CITY COUNCIL.
BUT NOW THAT YOU HAVE A DIRECTOR TO ADMINISTER YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN OR ORGANIZE YOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS IT WOULD BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT HAPPEN.
YOU WOULD CONVEY THAT TO US, BUT IT WILL STILL BE CONVEYED AND FINAL DECISION STILL MADE BY CITY COUNCIL OR A APRC FOR FUNDING.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS WAY, WHAT DO WE NOT DOING THAT WE WERE DOING?
>> IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 11, YOU CAN SEE THE PREVIOUS POWERS, SECTION 17, 20 POWERS AND DUTIES.
ONE THROUGH FOUR IS WHAT YOU WERE DOING.
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YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICIES FOR USE OF PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITY, SUBMIT ANNUAL BUDGET, REVIEW, ACQUISITION OF LAND OR BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES, AND PERFORM ADDITIONAL DUTIES OUTLINED BY CITY COUNCIL.THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING NOW BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT YOUR AN ITEM, EVEN ONE AND TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT YOU THINK IS PRIORITY.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
YOU ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO CARRY OUT THE DUTIES THAT ARE IN THAT WHICH INCLUDES POLICY, IT INCLUDES ACQUISITION, INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
YOU GUYS WILL STILL BE INVOLVED IN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS JUST MAKES IT A LOT MORE VAGUE.
IT'S MORE OF A CATCH-ALL OF OUR STRATEGIC ACTION ITEMS. IF YOU REVIEW WHAT THOSE ARE, THERE'S DIFFERENT SECTIONS AS IT RELATES TO POLICY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING, SPECIAL EVENTS, LAND ACQUISITION, PARK DEVELOPMENT, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. YOU GUYS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO US ON WHAT IS PRIORITY FOR YOU.
IT SHOULD MIRROR WHAT IS SHOWN AS PRIORITY IN OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO YEAR 10 WHEN THAT ISN'T SHOWN AS A PRIORITY, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON PACE WITH THE CURRENT YEAR WE'RE IN.
IT COULD STILL INCLUDE MANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY LISTED IN YOUR POWERS AND DUTIES.
IT'S JUST MORE VAGUE IT ALSO HAD REQUIREMENTS ON THAT WAS JUST POWER AND DUTIES.
IT ALSO MENTIONED ITEMS ABOVE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE MET AND IT HAD LISTED VERY SPECIFIC MONTHS.
IF WE COULDN'T GET IN BECAUSE WE HAD CONFLICTING MEETINGS OR CONFERENCE OR THINGS LIKE THAT WE'D HAVE TO COMPLETELY RESCHEDULE AND MAKE SURE WE HAD A MEETING IN THE MONTH THAT WAS DESIGNATED BECAUSE THAT WAS IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES.
AGAIN, IT JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE.
WHILE THIS CHANGE REQUIRES THAT WE ONLY HAVE TWO MEETINGS A YEAR, WE CAN HAVE MORE THAN THAT IF IT IS NEEDED.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MEETING TO MEET NEEDS TO BE FOR AN INTENDED PURPOSE OR PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WAS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM? OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5
[5. Discuss and possible action on budget priorities for Parks, Right-of-Way, Recreation, and Angleton Recreation Center division projects for fiscal year 2023-2024.]
IS DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR PARKS RIGHT AWAY RECREATION, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DIVISIONS FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED [NOISE] AT OUR AVLC MEETING NEXT MONDAY, OR THIS COMING MONDAY, THE 17TH.
IT WILL PRIMARILY FOCUS ON ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND PARKS.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE COMPLETED BOTH RIGHT AWAY AND KB ALSO.
BUT WHAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET ARE REALLY THE ONES THAT IMPACT THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
YOU'LL SEE HERE THE NEXT ATTACHMENT IN YOUR AGENDA IS THE ACTION PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR '23/'24.
THIS WAS PART OF THE PLAN THAT YOU ADOPTED WHEN WE FIRST ADOPTED THE MASTER STRATEGIC PLAN.
THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
WE INCLUDED THIS IN THE DOCUMENT JUST SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHEN YOU SEE SOME OF THE NEXT ATTACHMENT ON THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED AND HAVEN'T BEEN FUNDED AT THIS POINT OR HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, AND PLEASE CONSIDER THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT FROM YOUR SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS IF THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY ON THE LIST.
THAT LAST ATTACHMENT IS CAPITAL OUTLAY AND CIP PRIORITIES.
YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WILL BE IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
WE'VE BROKEN IT DOWN BY PARKS AND RIGHT AWAY, IT COULD BE EQUIPMENT YOU SEE HERE, SOLAR PARKING LOT LIGHTS FOR VG PECK SOCCER COMPLEX IS SOMETHING THAT IS ADDED.
AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL BE FUNDED, THIS WILL BE A GENERAL FUND REQUEST.
BUT IF GENERAL FUND IS NOT APPROVED IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, WE CAN ALWAYS GO [NOISE] AVLC FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WHEN THEY HAVE ADOPTED THEIR BUDGET.
ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, THESE WERE THE LIST OF PRIORITY ITEMS THAT WE BROUGHT TO AVLC HERE FAIRLY RECENTLY.
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WE DID AN ASSESSMENT OF THE FACILITY AND THESE WERE THE TOP RANKING ITEMS. WE DON'T HAVE PRICING ON EVERYTHING, BUT THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS WITHIN THE FACILITY AND RECREATION AT THIS TIME IF YOU REMEMBER, I APOLOGIZE, I'M JUST MISSPELLING, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, THAT WAS SPLIT FROM ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, SO IT'S ITS OWN WORKING DIVISION AND IT'S MORE OF THE PROGRAMMING SPECIAL EVENTS MARKETING.IT IS SUBSIDIZED BY AVLC BUT THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY CAPITAL OUTLAY OR CIP PROJECTS THEY DO PLAN TO PURSUE A TPW GRANT FOR PROGRAM MATERIALS.
BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE HEARD THIS EVENING FROM OUR LOCAL SPORTS ASSOCIATION AND THE LIST YOU SEE HERE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE PROVIDE STAFF WITH SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU THINK IS A PRIORITY, I WILL SAY THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR, WE WERE NOT BUDGETED FOR ADA TRANSITION ITEMS. THAT WAS A FIVE-YEAR ACTION PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED AND ADOPTED LAST YEAR, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE ANY FUNDING TO ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS. I'VE LISTED THIS PAST YEAR'S FISCAL OBLIGATIONS AS WELL AS THIS UPCOMING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
>> ADA, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY?
>> IS THERE TIME REQUIREMENT ON THAT COMPLIANCE?
>> I HESITATE TO SAY YES OR NO.
[LAUGHTER] IF WE WERE TO BE AUDITED, I WOULD SAY YES, WE'D BE GIVEN A VERY FIRM DEADLINE, SO SHOWING THAT WE ARE MAKING MOVEMENT TOWARDS ADDRESSING ANY OF THESE ITEMS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
>> SO EVEN ADA IF YOU'RE WORKING ON THE SOCCER FIELD, WE'VE GOT SO MANY ISSUES OUT THERE TRYING TO SET AT ADA [OVERLAPPING] UNTIL WE GET THE FIELDS RECTIFIED AS THEY NEED TO BE.
>> THESE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED HERE, AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF AN ACTION PLAN, JUST LIKE WE DO WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION STRATEGIC PLAN.
THIS WAS DONE JOINTLY WITH A MILE OF PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THE FIRST YEAR, WE'RE ONLY 27,000 AND NEXT YEAR 85, THE FOLLOWING YEAR IT'S LIKE 125, BUT IT HITS VARIOUS AREAS.
AS WE ARE TALKING ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, THEY EVALUATED ALL OF OUR PARKS IN THIS FIRST PHASE, SO IT'S NOT JUST THESE FUNDS WON'T BE ONLY FOR ONE PARK, IF YOU WILL. [NOISE]
>> OBVIOUSLY, THAT NEEDS TO BE ONE OF THE ITEMS SOMEWHERE ON THE TOP PRIORITIES.
>> WHAT IS GIS, THAT FIRST ONE?
>> THE GIS PARK OVERLAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO A OVERLAY ON OUR GIS SYSTEM.
IF YOU GO ON TO THE CITY'S MAPPING, IT WILL SHOW YOU ALL OF OUR PARK AMENITIES, WHERE TO FIND THEM, WHAT'S LOCATED IN EACH OF THE PARKS THROUGH THAT MAPPING SO THAT YOU'RE NOT PHYSICALLY HAVING TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE THAT THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH HAD PLANS, OR IN THIS SCOPE WHAT THIS INCLUDES WOULD BE TO ACTUAL HAVE 360 VIDEO ON EACH OF THESE AMENITIES SO THAT YOU CAN QUITE TRULY SEE WHAT THE AMENITIES LOOK LIKE, LIKE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN RUNNING PAVILION AT MASTERSON RATHER THAN DRIVING IN AND GOING AND LOOKING AT THE PAVILION TO SEE IF IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR YOUR BIRTHDAY PARTY, YOU CAN LOOK IT UP IN OUR GIS AND HAVE A 360 VIEW OF THE PARK.
>> THAT WOULD BE ON OUR WEBSITE OR POSSIBLY FACEBOOK OR WHATEVER?
>> SOME OF THESE THINGS, IT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW PARKS AND RIGHT AWAY, FOR INSTANCE, A MAJORITY OF THOSE COSTS ARE FUNDED BY GENERAL FUND.
THAT'S WHY WE SEPARATED IT THE WAY THAT WE DID.
THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER IS REALLY SUBSIDIZED BY AVLC.
TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING ENTITIES, NOT TO SAY THAT THE GENERAL FUND CANNOT FUND PROJECTS FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER,
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BUT PLEASE KEEP THAT IN CONSIDERATION.DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOT TO RANK THE TWO DIVISIONS NECESSARILY TOGETHER, OR MAYBE YOU WANT THEM TO, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRIORITIZE BOTH.
>> WHAT'S THE CHANCE OF DOING EVERYTHING ON THE LIST? [LAUGHTER]
>> I WILL SAY WE DID WRAP UP BUDGET TODAY AND I WOULD SAY IT'S PRETTY SLIM.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE STRATEGIC IN OUR APPROACH TO CITY COUNCIL AND ABLC, AND TO GIVE YOU [NOISE] A FRAME OF REFERENCE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT HALF-A-MILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECTS FROM PARKS THAT WILL BE PROPOSED I'M SURE AND PRIORITIZED AND CUT ALSO TO A DEGREE.
BUT THEN YOU DO HAVE A CONTINGENCY FUND AND ABLC OF A LITTLE OVER 200,000.
I CAN'T REMEMBER, 217-ISH IN ABLC.
BUT YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING ON THAT MAY NEED TO IF THEY'RE LARGER TICKET ITEMS MADE, THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF A UPCOMING BOND, MAYBE THAT [LAUGHTER] NEEDS TO BE PUSHED BACK SO THAT YOU CAN GET SEVERAL SMALLER ITEMS DONE.
THAT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE GENERAL FUND LOOKS LIKE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS A WHOLE CURRENTLY, BUT ABLC IS IN A POSITION WHERE THEY WILL HAVE A LITTLE OVER $200,000.
THAT'S BECAUSE RECENT DEBT HAS FALLEN OFF.
>> IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG TO SPEND $200,000.
>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE SOLAR LIGHTS OUT OF THE SOCCER COMPLEX? INSTEAD OF DOING INSTEAD OF DOING ALL AT ONE TIME, CAN WE DO A PORTION OF THEM PER YEAR?
THE PRICING THAT WE INCLUDED HERE IS A QUOTE THAT STEWART HAD GOTTEN LAST YEAR, SO IT NEED TO BE REVISED ANYWAYS.
BUT WE HAD REQUESTED JUST ALONG THE DRAINAGE AREA ALONG THE FIELDS TOO, JUST DOING A LINEAR ONE LINEAR PATH.
WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER BREAKING THAT UP.
>> I'M ASSUMING IF YOU HAVE A MOWER ON HERE IS TIME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE TO COUNT THEM.
THEY KEEP WEARING OUT SO YOU WANT TO KEEP CYCLING SO THAT YOU DON'T END UP WITH EVERYTHING BREAKING DOWN, SAME HERE.
AS THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT AND THE TRAILER, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S NEEDED AS WELL, I DON'T THINK THEY BOMBED THE TOP PRIORITY, BUT THEY NEED TO BE INCLUDED.
>> I WAS LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLANS FOR [INAUDIBLE] STICKY AND THEN THE STRATEGIC ONE.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE DO ALL THESE MASTER PLANS, BUT WE NEVER HAVE ANY MONEY TO DO ANYTHING WITH THEM.
THEN BY THE TIME WE GET READY TO DO SOMETHING, [NOISE] THEN WE GOT TO RE-DO THE MASTER PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS THAT WAY TO ME.
>> WELL, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
I WILL SAY THOUGH, THIS PAST YEAR ABLC DID FUND THE DESIGN FOR FREEDOM PARK PASSIVE AREA.
WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WHILE WE DID THE FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN.
WE SUBSEQUENTLY, ABLC FUNDED THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE A PORTION OF THAT FORWARD.
ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THESE ITEMS AT THE SAME TIME?
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING [OVERLAPPING].
>> IS THERE MONEY AVAILABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PLAN ONCE WE BUILD IT?
>> IT WILL CERTAINLY HAVE TO BE PHASE.
WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME.
>> MASTER PLAN IS ALWAYS 10 GRAND.
THE MASTER PLANNING, GRANT PALMS OF WALKING TRAIL, ALREADY GOT A PLAN.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE MAY END UP WITH SIDEWALKS DOWNTOWN.
WE HAVE TO DROP THAT MONEY, GO BORROW THREE MILLION DOLLARS.
PARK STUFF, ROADS STUFF, ADA STUFF, WHATEVER IT IS.
AGAIN, THAT'S OUR BEST MASTER PLAN.
ALSO, LIKE ABIGAIL [INAUDIBLE] FIRST, WE KNOW WE WANT TO [INAUDIBLE] WARM IT OUT AND SAY HERE'S THE OPPOSITE [INAUDIBLE] ON THIS.
THEY HAVE TO MASTER PLAN THESE THINGS.
>> I NOTICED THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST, [NOISE] NOT EVEN.
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>> WELL, [OVERLAPPING] AND SO THE PAGE PRIOR, IF YOU WILL, A LOT OF THESE ITEMS ARE BASED ON A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS IN PLACE AND ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
WE RECENTLY ACQUIRED ABIGAIL AND WHILE THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION, THERE HASN'T BEEN A DIRECTIVE TO ADD THAT AS A MASTER PLAN ITEM.
WE CERTAINLY CAN AND MAYBE THAT BECOMES PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE THEN INCORPORATE INTO OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH ABLC AND CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE PRESENT OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET.
>> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT FIRST [OVERLAPPING] INCLUDING ALL THAT.
>> WE WENT TO THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE IT WAS THE SAME THING.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENED BEFORE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT ADDING FREEDOM OR ADDING ABBY [OVERLAPPING].
>> DID FREEDOM GET PRIORITY OVER ABIGAIL, IS THAT HOW THAT WORKED?, I MISSED THAT.
>> FREEDOM HAS BEEN ON THE LIST FOR 10 YEARS.
>> I MEAN, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IF WE COULD REMEMBER HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT LIKE THIS IS BEFORE ABBY, BEFORE THE CITY GOT ABBY.
THE IDEA THAT WE HAD, I THINK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE STARTED GETTING THOSE ITEMS AND FREEDOM ON THE NORTH SIDE WITH HAVING THE EXTRA STUFF THAT WE WANTED TO DO ON THE NORTH END OF THE PARK.
THEN THAT LAND PURCHASE, THAT PIECE OF LAND BECAME AFFORDABLE FOR THE CITY TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE.
IT WOULD BE BASICALLY SECONDARY TO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH FREEDOM.
WE HAD, HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BATES AND DICKEY, AND I THINK THE MOVE WAS, LET'S GET THE SOUTH SIDE PARK GOING.
IT'S FINISHED UP FREEDOM FIRST, SOUTH SIDE PARK WOULD BE AFTER THAT.
BECAUSE ORIGINALLY BATES AND DICKEY WAS RIGHT AFTER FREEDOM [OVERLAPPING].
WHENEVER WE GOT ABBY, THAT BECAME SECONDARY PRIORITY IN THE SENSE OF PARKS OF WHAT WE WERE DOING.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY [NOISE] ARE WE DOING VERY STICKY MASTER PLAN THEN IF WE WOULD BE DOING THE ABIGAIL AND NEXT AFTER FREEDOM.
>> WELL, I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER COULD ANSWER THAT IF WE HAVE A PLAN, IF SOME FUNDS COME AVAILABLE SUDDENLY [OVERLAPPING] THOSE ITEMS WE'LL KNOW WHAT'S THERE AND WHICH ONES ARE PRIORITY AND THAT CAN BE POSSIBLY BE DONE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL ALL OF FREEDOM IS DONE BECAUSE THIS OTHER RESOURCE FOR MONEY CAME AVAILABLE FOR THAT PARK SPECIFICALLY, WHICH WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR FREEDOM JUST BECAUSE OF THE SOURCE THAT IS COMING FROM.
>> WHATEVER THE PLAN CONTAINS.
>> [NOISE] I THINK I HEAR YOU CLEAR.
YOU ARE JUST WONDERING WHY IT'S NOT ON THE LIST AT ALL.
>> SURE. WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THAT.
THE REASON YOU'RE SEEING BATES AND DICKEY IS BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY ON THE ACTION PLAN FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
WE CAN ADJUST THE ACTION PLAN IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION STAFF IS GIVEN BY CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEM FIRST WITH OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET, AND THEN.
>> YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW TO SAY THAT [INAUDIBLE].
>> WELL, THE ADA FOR ME IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE NUMBER 1.
I MEAN, [LAUGHTER] JUST [NOISE] DON'T WANT TO FIND OURSELVES [NOISE] IN A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE IT IS A FORCED ISSUE AND THERE'S A DEADLINE AND THERE IS NO MONEY TO TAP INTO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN ESSENTIALLY.
IN MY OPINION, THE MOST LOGICAL THING AND NOT EVEN BEING BIASED BECAUSE I'M A SPECIAL NEEDS MOM.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF THAT SITUATION.
IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT THAT'S GIVEN, ITS FORMAL AND IT'S BROUGHT UP THAT, HEY, THERE'S THIS CITY PLACE AND MY PERSON CAN'T USE IT OR BLAH, BLAH, IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE.
IN ORDER TO HAVE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SECURE, THE CITY IS SAFE FROM ANY SURPRISES, THAT'S GOING TO BE WHERE I SAY IT NEEDS TO BE THE BIGGEST FOCUS AND GETTING IT COMPLETE, AND FULLY HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.
>> I WOULD 100% MAKE THE ARGUMENT FOR THEIR LIGHTING OF THE PARKING LOT.
THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE. IT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE MINIMUM.
EVEN IF YOU CAN'T LIGHT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PARK, IF YOU PUT SOME LIGHT STRATEGICALLY IN SPOTS, YOU CAN AT LEAST OPEN UP FIELDS IN THE EVENING TIME.
A COUPLE OF THEM, IF NOT ALL, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ON THE FRONT END CLOSEST TO THE PARKING LOT.
I THINK WHAT BONNIE WAS SAYING EARLIER ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE MOWER, THE TRAILER, THESE ARE PROBABLY THINGS THAT ARE WEARING DOWN AND
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WE HAVE TO REPLACE THEM PROBABLY SOON.IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY CAN'T REPLACE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE UP THERE AS WELL.
THE PARK OVERLAYS SOUNDS COOL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE AS UTILIZES LIKE A MOWER ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS OR ON A WEEK-TO-WEEK BASIS.
IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE MONEY FROM WHEN YOU NEED IT, [OVERLAPPING] YOU PROBABLY BEEN NEEDING IT [OVERLAPPING] YESTERDAY.
NOT NECESSARILY EVEN WHETHER OR NOT.
YOU DID SAY THAT THE REC CENTER STUFF, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE NECESSARILY[OVERLAPPING].
>> IT COULD BE FUNDED BY ABLC.
BUT IF NOT FUNDED BY ABLC, WE COULD ASK FOR GENERAL FUND FUNDING, BUT IT'S NOT TYPICAL.
>> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE UNLESS THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VITAL THAT YOU-ALL FELT WE REALLY NEED THIS THING.
>> REALLY IN HISTORY, I DON'T KNOW EVEN WHEN WE'VE HAD EMERGENCY PURCHASES, IF WE'VE HAD TO RELY ON GENERAL FUND.
BONNIE, YOU MIGHT KNOW BETTER THAN ANY OF US.
BUT TYPICALLY, ABLC HAS TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF THAT BUILDING BECAUSE IT WAS A PROJECT THAT THEY CONSTRUCTED.
I WOULD THINK IT'S PRETTY SAFE TO SAY THAT THESE ITEMS ARE ABLC.
>> WE DON'T HAVE MAINTENANCE BUDGETS ON YOUR REC CENTER OR [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE DO HAVE MAINTENANCE BUDGETS.
>> WE DO. [LAUGHTER] THEY'RE JUST NOT.
SURE. WE DO HAVE, AGAIN, THE ADA DUSTBIN NOT JUST IN OUR PARKS, BUT THE FUNDING THAT IS LISTED HERE WHILE WE HAVE REQUESTED IT IN PARKS, IT WILL HIT THE FACILITIES AS WELL, INCLUDING THE RECREATION CENTER.
SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE WEIGHT ROOM IS NOT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE IF YOU HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, IT HAS TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE.
IF YOU HAVE FIVE TREADMILLS ONLY ONE HAS TO BE ACCESSIBLE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT AREA HAS TO BE ACCESSIBLE AS WELL.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT A CAPACITY ISSUE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SPACE ISSUE THAT'S EVENTUALLY WHERE WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE EQUIPMENT AWAY TO ENSURE THAT IT IS ADA ACCESSIBLE OR ALTERNATIVELY EXPAND THE WEIGHT ROOM.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THERE.
WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS AND THE AUDITORY AND THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS JUST WITH RESPECT TO SLOPING.
THE SLOPE IS JUST A HAIR TOO HIGH FOR IT TO BE ADA-ACCESSIBLE.
WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FACILITY AS IT RELATES TO ADA.
>> THAT'S WHY WE SAY THE MADE THIS BUDGET.
NOW WE ALSO HAVE THIS OTHER ADA COMPLIANCE, I GUESS WE'RE ON CROSSROADS.
DO YOU WANT TO DEGRADE THE CURRENT FACILITY TO MAKE IT ADA-COMPLIANT OR TO EXPAND THE FACILITY GROWING COMMUNITY TO KEEP THE NUMBER OF MACHINES.
>> [LAUGHTER] WE THOUGHT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO ON THIS BOARD.
>> [LAUGHTER] WE WOULD ALL AGREE THAT THE ADA STUFF NEEDS TO BE TOP PRIORITY ON THIS BOARD.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WHAT I HAVE SO FAR IS ADA SOCCER FIELD LIGHTING, WE TALKED ABOUT SOLAR LIGHTS ALSO PARTIAL.
>> DO YOU WANT TO USE SOME IN SOCCER PARKING LOT LIGHTING?
>> I HAVE FIELD LIGHTING AS A SECONDARY, BUT THEN THIRD, I HAVE PARKING.
>> PARKING. I'M WORRIED ABOUT SOMEBODY GETTING SNAGGED IT.
WE HAVE NO LIGHTS WHEN THEY TURN THEM OFF. THAT'S NOT GOOD.
>> FORTH I HAVE MILLING EQUIPMENT.
FIFTH, I DO HAVE ABIGAIL MASTER PLAN UNLESS THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO.
>> I DEFINITELY WANT THAT ALL.
>> ABSOLUTELY. IF THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED UP, PLEASE TELL ME.
>> IF THERE IS INTERESTS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE INDICATING, I WANT THEM ALL DONE AT THE TOP. WHAT CAN I SAY?
>> [LAUGHTER] EVERYTHING IS NUMBER 1, [LAUGHTER] 1A, 1B, 1C.
>> THIS IS JUST THE RECOMMENDATION.
>> FOR IT TO BE ON A MASTER PLAN OR ACTION PLAN, I THINK DEFINITELY JUST LIKE AS YOU SAID, IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT THEY CAN APPLY A GRANT FOR AND IT IN THERE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE, I WOULD DEFINITELY GET IT ON.
>> NOW I THINK WHETHER NEW PARK AND ALL THAT.
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>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE IN AGREEMENT THAT EVERYTHING IN THE FREEDOM PARK NORTH WAS OVER ABIGAIL.
>> [LAUGHTER] THAT WAS ONE ITEM THAT I DON'T RECALL EITHER.
I KNOW WE MADE THE PASSIVE AREA A PRIORITY BECAUSE IT WAS RELATED TO TRAILS AND THAT WAS THE NUMBER 1 ITEM IN THE MASTERING STRATEGIC PLAN.
>> BUT THAT EXTRA BALL FIELD THAT BIG.
>> I DON T KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING EVEN I THINK THAT WAS AFTER ABIGAIL, WE COME BACK TO EACH OF THOSE AREAS, BUT THERE'S LIKE FIVE AREAS.
>> IS JUST THERE ANOTHER BALL FIELD?
>> I WANTED TO BE INSIDE THE BIG BALL FIELD AND THERE WAS AN AMPHITHEATER.
TO ME, THOSE ARE THE BIG TICKET ITEMS OVER THERE IN THE NEWER FOURTH PART.
>> THERE'S A FAMILY ACTIVE ZONE.
THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL FIELDS AND THEN WAY IN THE FUTURE IT'S LIKE TWO ADDITIONAL FIELDS.
THAT'S WHY YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE WE MAY NOT HAVE THE DEMAND FOR THE LAST TWO.
>> I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I WAS STRUGGLING WHEN HE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO FREEDOM NEXT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE MET ALL OF FREEDOM.
>> THE PRIORITY WAS A TRAIL, THE NORTH INSIDE WAS GETTING SOME TRAILS OUT THERE AND UTILIZING THAT POND IT'S OUT THERE AS LIKE A FISHING PIER TYPE WHATEVER.
BUT I DON'T THINK THE OTHER STUFF WAS LIKE.
>> I WILL SAY THAT ABLC HAS MENTIONED THE ADDITION OF THE LARGER FIELDS AS HALF OUR LOCAL SPORTS ASSOCIATION.
THAT IS A DESIRE FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE ASSOCIATION, EVEN SOME STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
I DO KNOW THAT IN OUR CIP WHICH AGAIN THAT WILL BE OUR FIVE-YEAR CIP REFLECTS ALL OF THOSE SEGMENTS.
WE DO HAVE THAT ORGANIZED IN A WAY.
I'M DISAPPOINTED, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ATTACHED IN HERE.
I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE DO HAVE IT ORGANIZED TO WHERE YOU DO HAVE ABIGAIL, AND THEN WE COME BACK TO FREEDOM FOR THE LARGE FIELDS AND THEN AT LATER DATES WE GET IN THEIR FAMILY ACTIVE ZONE, THE ADDITIONAL FIELDS BUT IT'S NOT ALL THE SAME.
>> THAT'S WHY THE SOCCER, IN MY OPINION, HAS TO HAVE A PLACE HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ACCESS TO BALL FIELDS OUT HERE IN TERMS OF SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL, ETC.
I FEEL LIKE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT RETENTION EVEN AND AT SOME POINT MAYBE PEOPLE ARE SLIDING OUT, GO INTO ANOTHER SPORT.
WELL, SURE BECAUSE THAT'S WHO HAS THE FUNDING ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S WHO'S GOT WHATEVER GOING ON AND JUST HAVING A GROUP OF WEIRDO KIDS IN MY CIRCLE, THEY HAVE THESE OFFSET THINGS THAT THEY DO.
WELL, WHERE DO THEY GO FOR THAT? WHAT DO THEY JOIN? IN THIS TOWN AND WHERE WE'RE AT, THIS IS WHERE A SPORT LIKE THIS IS GOING TO STRUGGLE BECAUSE ALL THIS ATTENTION IS ELSEWHERE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE FOR THEM IN TERMS OF HAVING BETTER FACILITIES AND PARENTS FEELING BETTER ABOUT HAVING THEIR KIDS OUT THERE IF THEY CAN WALK INTO PARKING LOT AND FEEL SAFE.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT DESERVE ATTENTION IN MY OPINION BECAUSE THE SPORT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE.
IT CAN'T DO THAT IF EVERY TIME THERE'S AVAILABLE MONEY IT GOES TO A SPORT THAT'S ALREADY GOT A TON OF STUFF FOR IT.
WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO SEE WHAT POTENTIAL THEY CAN HAVE AND WHAT THEY CAN DO AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS POPULATION GROWTH, WE HAVE HOW MANY KIDS ARE GOING TO WANT THAT.
I HAD A NEIGHBOR EVEN WHO WANTED THEIR CHILD TO PLAY SOCCER AND JUST DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF COMFORT BUT THE SITUATION WAS GOING TO BE FOR A LITTLE ONE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR THE PARENTS AND FOR THE SMALL KIDS.
I'M GOING TO SAY IF IT'S LIKE JAIME MENTIONED, TRYING TO WORK WITH THE LIGHTING TO SEE IF WE CAN AT LEAST GET A PARTIAL GET IT SET UP TO WHERE IT'S ANGLED A CERTAIN WAY BUT THEY NEED TO HAVE A BONE THROWN THEIR WAY IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.
>> I THINK SAFETY AND SECURITY THINGS, WHICH IS WHAT ADA IN A WAY AND LIGHTING IS SECURITY.
I THINK THOSE ARE OUR PRIORITY.
>> I THINK THE WAY THAT YOU HAD YOUR SETUP ADA COMPLIANCE STUFF WOULD BE NUMBER 1.
I WOULD AGREE WITH SOME OF WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR.
I THINK THE PARKING LOT, THE BARE MINIMUM, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UP THERE BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU HAVE PARKING LOT LIGHTING AT THE COMPLEX, YOU AT LEAST CAN LIGHT UP SOME EXTRA FIELDS.
IT WON'T BE COMPLETELY THE ALL OF IT BECAUSE I'M SURE ALL OF IT WOULD BE WAY MORE MONEY THAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
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THE MOWER TRAILER MAINTENANCE STUFF WOULD BE PROBABLY UNDERNEATH THAT.THEN I WOULD PROBABLY, AGAIN, I'M JUST SPEAKING HERE.
I WOULD SAY A MASTER PLAN FOR AT LEAST A CONVERSATION FOR A MASTER PLAN FOR ABBY WOULD BE THERE IN THE TOP FIVE.
REC CENTER, LET ABLC WORRY THAT. [LAUGHTER]
>> IF I'M GOING TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT FOR ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE REC STUFF IT'S FACILITY LIGHTING BECAUSE THAT LIGHTING IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD LIGHTING IN THAT PLACE.
I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU WOULD PUT THAT ON THERE.
BUT AGAIN, IF ABLC IF WE GET THOSE AROUND APRIL THE C BOARD.
LIKE IF WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT, THEN I THINK THAT'LL BE FINE.
>> WE DO HAVE CONSULTANTS, I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC TO COME IN AND DO AN ENERGY SAVINGS STUDY FOR THAT FACILITY, WHICH WILL LIKELY INCLUDE EITHER RETRO OR COMPLETE REPLACEMENT OF ALL FACILITY LIGHTING?
>> IF YOU GUYS WANT TO AGREE, DISAGREE, MOVE SOME STUFF UP, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE AT.
>> AS HAVING THOSE ITEMS TOP 4.
>> GREAT. WELL, THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE WILL MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT.
JAIME, YOU CAN DO THE ADJOURNMENT.
>> WELL I WILL DO. [LAUGHTER] WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN AT 6:27.
GOT TO HIT THE GAVEL. WE'RE GOOD.
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