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ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

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THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

HAVE A RELATIVELY SHORT AGENDA, AND WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUR QUORUM AT 12:30.

SO WE NEED TO MOVE THROUGH THIS AGENDA EXPEDITIOUSLY.

THE FIRST ITEM IS DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL THE 6TH, 2023.

[1. Discussion and possible action on the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting on April 6, 2023.]

I MOVE WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY MISS BEIRI AND A SECOND BY MISS TOWNSEND.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE? AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. ITEM TWO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DETERMINING POSSIBLE MEETING DATES TO MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL FOR A WORKSHOP REGARDING THE ZONING CODE AND VARIOUS

[2. Discussion and possible action on determining possible meeting dates to meet with City Council for a workshop regarding the Zoning Code and various District Regulations.]

DISTRICT REGULATIONS.

MR. SPRIGGS. GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS ITEM YOU'VE HAD IN YOUR LAST OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO HAVE A JOINT WORKSHOP WITH YOU AND THE COUNCIL TO BASICALLY GET ON THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF THE VISION OF THE CITY AND THE DIRECTION IN WHICH WE'RE GOING.

AND THEN WE'RE WORKING ON ALSO SOME UPDATES TO OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES IN TERMS OF PROCESS AND PROCEDURES.

SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH BOTH BOARDS AND GO OVER ANY PENDING CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE AS A BOARD.

SO I PLACED AN OPTIONAL DATE THAT WE KIND OF DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, BUT I ALSO LEFT A BLANK THERE.

SO WE CAN LOOK AT JUNE AS WELL IN TERMS OF POSSIBLE DATES.

UNFORTUNATELY, MAY 16TH DID NOT WORK IN OUR FAVOR.

MAY 30TH WORKS WITH ME.

I AM UNAVAILABLE.

I'M OUT OF I'M UNAVAILABLE..

AND THAT'S FINE.

SO IF YOU WOULD POSSIBLY MAYBE PULL OUT YOUR CALENDARS AND LET'S LOOK AT JUNE.

I LOOKED AT TUESDAYS BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

AND I WAS GOING TO THROW OUT JUNE 13TH OR 20TH.

I COULD MAKE THE 13TH.

AND THAT'S OKAY WITH JUNE 13TH.

I'M MADELEINE. BUT THEN LET'S LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING OPTION.

I'M OUT ON THE 20TH AS WELL.

THERE'S A TUESDAY IN BETWEEN, RIGHT? THE 13TH AND THE 20TH.

NO, NO, NOT. YEAH.

OH, WHICH ONES ARE THE COUNCILMAN? DE DE. I THINK COUNCIL IS THE 13TH AND THE 27TH.

RIGHT. TRY THOSE SECOND AND FOURTH.

YEAH, TRY THOSE TWO DATES.

SO 27TH I COULD DO IF WE'RE TRYING TO LINE IT UP ON A DATE COUNCIL ALREADY MEETS.

YES, OF COURSE.

WE CAN INVITE COUNCIL TO OUR NEW MEETING.

HOW LONG YOU WANT IT TO LAST.

IT WON'T LAST THAT LONG.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE THINKING.

OKAY, I CAN DO THE 27TH.

27TH. 27TH OF JUNE.

JUNE 27TH.

SO FAR? YES.

OKAY. SO WE WILL PUT THAT OUT THERE AND GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK AND WE HAVE CONSENSUS 100%.

I DON'T THINK IT REQUIRES A VOTE.

NO, I DON'T THINK SO EITHER. OKAY.

[3. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and take possible action on a request for approval of an ordinance rezoning 13.002 acres from the (SF-6.3) Single Family Zoning District to the Planned District (PD), SFA, Single Family Attached base zoning district for property located at 710 W. Mulberry St., west of N. Walker St.]

ITEM THREE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE REZONING 13.002 ACRES FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT, 0.32 TO A PLANNED DISTRICT.

SFA SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED BASE ZONING DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 710 WEST MULBERRY STREET, WEST OF NORTH WALKER STREET.

BRICK. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A REQUEST, OF COURSE, OF A REZONING OF PROPERTY THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH.

MULBERRY FIELDS SUBDIVISION IS A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT STAGE, AND THEY'RE IN THE CONSTRUCTION STAGE.

SO THE DEVELOPER APPROACHED YOU IN THE PAST WITH A CONCEPT THAT HE WANTED TO LOOK AT AN OPTION FOR A TOWNHOUSE PRODUCT THAT THEY WERE PROMOTING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND GRADES.

IF YOU WOULD JUST ROLL DOWN TO SOME OF THE GRAPHICS A LITTLE FURTHER AND FURTHER DOWN AND YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT AT ANY RATE, IN ORDER FOR HIM TO DO THE TOWNHOMES, HE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT.

AS STATED EARLIER IN THE HEADER, WE'VE ADVERTISED THIS AND THAT'S THE PRODUCT THERE.

REAL BRIEFLY, IF YOU WOULD, ROLL BACK UP AND SHOW THE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS GENERAL AREA.

WHAT WE DO IS WHEN WE GET THESE REQUESTS IN, WE HAVE TO, OF COURSE, NOTIFY EVERYONE WITHIN 200FT OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE LAND USE PLAN THAT YOU SEE THERE FOR THE AREA.

MOST OF THE AREA, AS YOU SEE WITH THE YELLOW, IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THE ORANGE WOULD REPRESENT MULTIFAMILY ON THE MASTER LAND USE PLAN.

IT'S NOT THE ZONING MAP THAT REGULATES THE PROPERTY, BUT IN CASE THERE ARE FUTURE PROPOSALS, THEY LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN AND SEE WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE AREA.

SOME OF THE REASONING BEHIND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE RED AREA THAT YOU SEE COMMERCIAL ALONG 35 AND THEN IN THE AREA AS ON THE

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THE ABOVE TEXT THERE, IT KIND OF SHOWS SOME OF THE SURROUNDING AREA LIKE THE BATTERY PARK USE AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, SUCH AS THE CELL PHONE TOWERS THAT YOU SEE THERE, SOME ACTIVITY ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY OF 35 IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION FOR A PD, WHICH IS A PLANNED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO IS TO PLACE CONDITIONS ON THE PROPOSAL, JUST IN CASE YOU CAN SEE THAT IF IT HAS ANY MERIT, YOU ABLE TO PUT CONDITIONS ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COULD BETTER FIT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

IF YOU WOULD ROLL DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER.

THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY SHOWING SOME OF THE AERIAL MAPS AND HOW IT WOULD BE SITUATED ON OFF OF 35.

THERE. AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE ACTUALLY HAD TO WEIGH, OF COURSE, THE CRITERIA IN THE AREA FOR THE REZONING IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL VICINITY AND HOW THE AREA IS DEVELOPING.

THE APPLICANT, OF COURSE, DID APPROACH COUNCIL WITH THE CONCEPT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK.

IN TERMS OF THE PRODUCT, I THINK IT RECEIVED SOME POSITIVE RESPONSE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE PROMOTING.

BUT WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THE TOWNHOUSES WOULD RESEMBLE IN TERMS OF AMENITIES.

WHAT WE'VE DONE ALSO WITH THE STAFF REPORT IS WE'VE ATTACHED AN ORDINANCE AND THEN THE GENERAL STANDARDS OF THE SF, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, IS THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH THEY ARE RECOMMENDING YOU TO CONSIDER.

SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, OF COURSE, WOULD BE TOWNHOMES, AND WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THAT DISTRICT AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE.

WE PUT A SAMPLE ORDINANCE ON THE AGENDA.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE'VE ALSO SINCE THEN ATTACHED A SAMPLE DA AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD APPLY IN THIS CASE AND THEN ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU WOULD PUT ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND IF YOU ROLL UP A LITTLE BIT RIGHT THERE, THAT WOULD SHOW THE ORIGINAL MULBERRY ESTATE SUBDIVISION AS IT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED.

AND PLEASE CONTINUE TO ROLL DOWN.

OKAY, STOP THERE. AND IF YOU ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT, THIS WOULD SHOW THE CONFIGURATIONS, THE.

THE LOTS WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL LOTS THAT WOULD BE SOLD.

THEY WOULD NOT BE RENTALS.

AND FROM THERE I WILL HALT AND LET THE APPLICANT APPROACH THE BOARD JUST TO ADD ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD.

ONCE YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AS A COMMISSION, LET'S GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE DEVELOPER BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

I AM [INAUDIBLE].

I AM THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR CORY BOYER, WHO IS THE DEVELOPER.

UNFORTUNATELY, HE IS UNDER THE WEATHER AND DID NOT WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOU GUYS TODAY.

SO I AM STEPPING IN IN HIS PLACE.

SO YEAH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TAKING OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE ARE WE'RE MAKING THEM A SFA PRODUCT WHICH ESSENTIALLY JUST LOOKS LIKE A DUPLEX, BUT IT'S IT'S ZONED FOR SFA. SO THAT WAY WE'RE SPLITTING EVERYTHING.

WE'RE GIVING EVERYBODY THE, THE LOT SIZE IS JUST HALF THE SIZE OF WHAT IT WAS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY. THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE FENCED LOTS.

WE CAME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND ASKED FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

AND THEN WE ALSO WENT TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR FEEDBACK.

AND WE TOOK THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AND GOT WITH OTIS TO SUBMIT THIS FOR A PD.

SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE TAKING YOUR CONCERNS INTO ACCOUNT WERE WE WIDENED OUR STREETS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY FROM 28 TO 32, I BELIEVE WAS WHAT IT WAS.

AND THEN THERE WERE CONCERNS WITH TURNING OUT ONTO MULBERRY.

SO WE HAVE SAID THAT WE WILL MAKE THAT A RIGHT HAND TURN ONLY ONTO MULBERRY TO KIND OF LIMIT THE TRAFFIC

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IMPACT. WE DID INCLUDE OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS COULD SEE THAT WE ARE TAKING THOSE CONCERNS VERY SERIOUSLY.

WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT IT ALL AT.

LET'S SEE. WE ARE PROPOSING SO THAT MIDDLE SECTION WHERE IT SHOWS HOUSES, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING TO MAKE IT A GREEN SPACE COMMUNITY FOR NOT ONLY OUR RESIDENTS, BUT FOR RESIDENTS OF ANGLETON TO COME AND AND UTILIZE THE SPACE.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING EITHER A PARK OR A DOG PARK OR JUST SOME NICE GREEN SPACE IN THERE.

ANY QUESTIONS? LET'S DO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE.

OKAY. AND CHAIR, LET ME JUST ADD THAT IT'LL BE 81 DOORS IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON OR ABOUT THIS PROJECT? AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? AND I MOVE THAT. WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

MAYBE I WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DID ANYONE SIGN UP FOR THIS CASE? I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE JUST HAVE THE TWO LETTERS, RIGHT? CORRECT. THAT'S ALL.

I MOVE WE CLOSE IT. I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE? AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

OKAY. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW, AND WITH EACH CITY ADMINISTRATION, YOU GET A DIFFERENT DIRECTION ON DO WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH A MOTION OR DO WE NOT OPEN IT WITH A MOTION? SO JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS.

AND I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYBODY IN THIS BUILDING KNOWS WHAT I THINK OF THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAY.

WE APPROVED IT AS RESIDENTIAL WITH 40, 41, 41, 41 LOTS.

THE ONE THING THAT HAS NOT CHANGED IS OUR SEWER SITUATION.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE 41 TO 82.

I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THIS.

AND AS MY GUIDANCE, I GO TO GREEN TRAILS OVER HERE THAT STARTED AS ONE THING.

AND EVERY TIME THEY BROUGHT IT BACK, WE GOT WE DOUBLED UP.

WE GOT MORE. WE GOT MORE, WE GOT MORE.

AND YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTS AROUND THERE THAT ARE AGAINST THIS.

THEREFORE, I'M AGAINST IT.

GOOD. THANK YOU, MISS SPOOR.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.

MOTIONS? I MOVE WE AS A COMMISSION RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL OF THE REZONING CONDITION AS LAID OUT IN OUR PACKET AND RECOMMEND COUNCIL NOT APPROVE.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO NOT APPROVE.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. SO WE ARE 3 TO 1 OPPOSED TO THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH LEGAL TO INTERPRET THAT BECAUSE IT BASICALLY WOULD TAKE THE FOUR VOTES FOR A POSITIVE ACTION.

OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY I STATED SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD TO STATE THE MOTION IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

THAT WAY YOU KNOW IT WE EITHER FLATTEN OUT TO GET DENIED OR NOT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO REVERSE IT IN THE POSITIVE, IT WOULD PROBABLY GIVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME .

I THINK, BUT I THINK THE VOTE WOULD BREAK DOWN THE SAME SO IT STILL WOULDN'T CARRY.

WE'D STILL BE 3 TO 1.

SO I DON'T THE WAY THE MOTION IS STATED IN TERMS OF A DENIAL IS WHAT I'M SAYING, RIGHT? IT KIND OF NEGATES IT.

BUT I THINK IF WE RECOMMENDED COUNCIL APPROVE AND WE VOTED ONE YAY, TWO THREE, NAY DENIED.

OKAY, OKAY. WE CAN LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS, BUT I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE CLEAR.

OKAY. I THINK WE'RE CLEAR.

LET'S LEAVE IT. WELL, WE'RE CLEAR.

I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE, IT WOULD BE.

IT WOULDN'T PASS. IT WOULDN'T PASS ANYWAY.

YOU NEED IT ALL FOR THE RECOMMENDATION OF THOSE PRESENTS IS CLEARLY NOT TO APPROVE.

I THINK THE FACT THAT WE ARE A COMMISSION OF SEVEN IS IRRELEVANT.

OKAY, BASED ON MY 40 YEARS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS.

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UH, THAT'S WITH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, NOT THE COMMISSION.

[4. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on a request for approval of the final plat of Riverwood Ranch Sections 4. The proposed final plat consists of approximately 71 single family residential lots on approximately 15.2 acres and is generally located north of Hospital Drive between N. Downing Street to the west and Buchta Road to the east.]

REGULAR AGENDA ITEM FOUR, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT OF RIVERWOOD RANCH.

SECTIONS FOUR, THE FINAL PROPOSED FINAL PLAT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 71 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND APPROXIMATELY 15.2 ACRES, AND IS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF HOSPITAL DRIVE BETWEEN NORTH DOWNING STREET TO THE WEST AND BUCKNER ROAD TO THE EAST.

MR. SPRIGGS. THANK YOU.

LET ME JUST READJUST.

SO YOU HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN RIVERWOOD, SECTION THREE.

THIS IS SECTION FOUR.

YOUR LAST RECOMMENDATION FOR SECTION THREE WENT TO THE COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION.

SECTION THREE ACTUALLY GOT DENIED AND THEN THE DISAPPROVAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLAT HAD TO DO WITH THE QUESTION ON THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IN TERMS OF LOT SIZES, 50FT WIDE LOTS VERSUS 60FT WIDE LOTS.

SO WHAT THE APPLICANT PULLED BACK AND DID WAS ACTUALLY DECIDED TO PRESENT SECTIONS THREE AND FOUR SIMULTANEOUSLY.

AND WHAT THIS WOULD OUTLINE SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE, WHICH LOTS ARE 60 VERSUS 50FT.

SO THEY HAVE RESUBMITTED SECTION FOUR HERE AS A FINAL PLAT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION TO COUNCIL.

AND AS YOU SEE IN SECTION FOUR, IT WOULD HOLD THE MAJORITY OF THE 60 FOOT LOTS.

THIS IS BEING SENT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

COMMENTS DID GO TO OUR CITY ENGINEER WHO FORWARDED COMMENTS TO THE APPLICANT AND THEY DID RESPOND IN TERMS OF CLARITY AND CLEARANCE OF THOSE ITEMS. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD CONSIDER SECTION FOUR FINAL PLAT FOR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE ACTION AND THAT THE CITY ENGINEER ANY OUTSTANDING COMMENTS ARE MET AND SATISFIED.

GOOD. GREAT.

OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS JUST A PLAT CONSIDERATION.

AND I APOLOGIZE IF IT..

AND ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN ALREADY APPROVED.

YES, IT'S ALREADY BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON THE ZONING LEVEL AND EVERYTHING.

DA AGREEMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT, SO. DA AGREEMENT DEALING WITH LOT SIZES OR DEALING WITH JUST OVERALL POPULATION DENSITY? DA AGREEMENT WOULD DEAL WITH MOST OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN IT WOULD FALL BACK THAT THEY WOULD OF COURSE COMPLY TO THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLATS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

SO THIS HAS, OF COURSE, NOTHING TO DO WITH DENSITY OR LOT SIZES.

BUT HOWEVER, COMPLIANCE WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT'S PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER.

THIS IS ONE THAT STILL HAS THE 50 FOOT LOTS ON HERE TOO.

WHICH ONE? YEAH.

YEAH. SO THERE'S STILL 50 FOOT LOTS.

HOW MANY 50 FOOT LOTS ARE THERE? I THINK 29. RIGHT.

HOW MANY 60 FOOT LOTS? SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE TOTAL.

YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THE LOT CONFIGURATIONS.

I THINK IT'S RIGHT HERE. I THINK YOU HAD 29 ON 50 FOOT LOTS.

RIGHT. AND YOU HAD ON THE BOTTOM.

YEAH, IT'S ON THE LITTLE CHART NOW.

I CAN'T FIND IT. I LOOKED AT IT BEFORE I CAME.

YOU SEE IT ON THE CHART? BUT THERE'S STILL 50.

OF THEM MUCH SMALLER THAN THAT.

YEAH. YEAH. YES, SIR.

CUL DE SAC. TWO MINUTES FOR PARKING.

RIGHT. OKAY, I HAVE IT.

I GOT TO DO SOME MATH.

BEAR WITH ME.

HOLY. I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED YOU WEREN'T ANTICIPATING THIS.

SO I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO GO QUICKER.

OKAY, SO I GOT 29 FOR 50 FOOT AND 42 FOR 60 FOOT..

AND ON THE CUL DE SACS WE HAD SOME THAT WERE A LOT SMALLER.

AND THE REASON WHY I WAS LOOKING AT THAT, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HOUSES THAT THAT I'VE DEALT WITH.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON THOSE SMALL LOTS AND I MEAN THE PARKING'S HORRIBLE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, GET AROUND, PEOPLE START PARKING ON THE INSIDE.

I WAS JUST NOTICING ON THE INNER CORNERS.

YEAH. THOSE ARE MEASURED DIFFERENT WHEN THEY'RE IN THE CUL DE SAC.

I DO UNDERSTAND THE SETBACK DETERMINES THE WIDTH.

YEAH. ARE YOU REFERRING TO SECTIONS ONE AND TWO FOR THE PARKING?

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NO. AND WHAT YOU HAVE HERE ON OTHER RESIDENTS.

REMEMBER, I'VE BEEN DOING REAL ESTATE FOR YEARS JUST ON DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

OKAY. YEAH. SAME CONFIGURATION.

JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE.

YES, MA'AM. THE FOUR LOTS THAT BORDER EMMA STREET, ARE THOSE GOING TO HAVE HOUSES ON THEM? THE 31 32 FOOT LOTS.

31FT LOTS.

I MEAN, I'M SEEING A MEASUREMENT LOOKS LIKE FROM A PROPERTY LINE TO SOME SORT OF.

OH, YES, MA'AM.

YES, MA'AM. SO HOW THEY MEASURE THAT IS I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I THINK THAT GOES UNTIL THE KNUCKLE OR WHEN IT STARTS CURVING AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER RADIAL MEASUREMENT.

SO THAT'S NOT THE TOTAL WIDTH OF THE LOT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THERE IS A DEPICTION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE PLAT, SCROLL DOWN.

I THINK THAT KIND OF DEPICTS THE MEASUREMENTS WITH THE RADIAL 20 FOOT RADIUS THERE.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDING PAD WE HAVE ANTICIPATED THERE DOESN'T CHANGE FROM OUR CORNER LOTS TO OUR INTERIOR LOTS.

AGAIN, THIS IS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

WHAT WE DECIDE HERE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.

THE DECISION THE COUNCIL SEEMED TO HAVE MADE, OR MY INTERPRETATION WATCHING IT WAS THEY WEREN'T GOING TO ACCEPT SECTION THREE BECAUSE THEY HAD APPROVED IT WHEN IT CAME THROUGH AS THREE AND FOUR PRELIMINARY.

SO THEY WERE HOLDING BACK BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE SECTION FOUR.

AM I RIGHT? CORRECT.

OKAY. SO ANYTHING THAT WE SAY OR DO HERE IS JUST US BLOVIATING ABOUT IT.

SO. CONGRATULATIONS.

YES, MA'AM. BUT THERE ARE MORE 60 FOOT LOTS.

ISN'T THAT. WELL, MAKE IT A LITTLE HAPPIER? YOU KNOW, GO OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE IN SECTION ONE AND TELL ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON THOSE CUL DE SACS THAT CAN'T WALK AROUND THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE ON THAT CUL DE SAC ON THAT CURVE, THEY CAN'T WALK ON THEIR SIDEWALKS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M AGAINST.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE HOA MEETINGS AND WE'VE HAD NO CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

I'D LOVE TO, I WISH WE COULD GET SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS OUT HERE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE NEGATIVES YOU HEAR ARE NOT FROM OUR RESIDENTS THEMSELVES.

AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS WE HAVE ARE VERY HAPPY FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD IN OUR HOA MEETINGS AND LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY WE'VE BUILT.

MY QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW. IT'S PROBABLY PART QUESTION, PART CONCERN IS WHERE DOES EMERGENCY SERVICES WEIGH IN ON THIS? AFTER GOING OUT AND PERHAPS TOURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD? I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH SEVERAL TIMES AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY.

AND A CONCERN THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE IS THAT IF SOMEONE IN ONE OF THESE HOMES WAS TO EXPERIENCE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY OR A FIRE EMERGENCY, THE WAY THAT I SEE PARKING BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION DENSITY, I DON'T KNOW THAT A FIRE TRUCK COULD MAKE IT DOWN OR AN AMBULANCE COULD MAKE IT DOWN AND ACTUALLY TURN AROUND.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FITS INTO OUR DISCUSSION, BUT IT'S A CONCERN.

WELL, WE'RE REQUIRED, OF COURSE, TO.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE WEIGHED IN.

I GUESS THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IN ALL THE PREVIOUS SECTIONS.

YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU, OTIS. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION IN OUR REMAINING MINUTES? THANK YOU, MR. FOLEY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POINT OF MAKING A MOTION FOR IS.

I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE ITS FINAL PLAT, SECTION THREE AND FOUR FOR THE MEETS MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AND BE APPROVED TO OR BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION.

AND THIS IS FOR FOUR ONLY.

OH FOR FOUR ONLY. I'M SORRY.

OKAY. SO I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR FOUR MEETING MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AND BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO OUTSTANDING ENGINEERING COMMENTS FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION.

HAVE A MOTION BY MS..

TOWNSEND. IS THERE A SECOND? YOU JUST NEED A MOTION TO GIVE COUNCILMAN.

WELL WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS..

I'LL MAKE THE SECOND YES.

AND IT'S BASICALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ALSO RELATE TO THE APPLICANT AS WELL, ACCORDING TO STATE LAW.

AND THEN THE REQUIREMENT IN THE STATE LAW REGARDING THESE PLATS IS WHEN THEY MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, THEN THE CITY HAS TO BASICALLY CONSIDER THE

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APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT.

AND YOU ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION..

FOR RECOMMENDING FINAL ACTION BY COUNCIL.

YES. YES. BUT YOUR RECOMMENDATION DOES COUNT.

YES. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

SO BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL RIGHT. THAT ONE FAILS 3 TO 1.

AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE DISAPPROVAL ON THAT.

NO, BECAUSE OF THE DISAPPROVAL.

I NEED TO KNOW THE REASONING BEHIND THE DISAPPROVAL.

AND UNFORTUNATELY.

I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU SPEAKING THE MIC.

SO WE CAN. I HAVE TO DICTATE IT.

LOT SIZE. THAT'S IT.

IS THIS LOT SIZE AND NOT IN COMPLIANCE OF WHAT GOT APPROVED WASN'T APPROVED.

YOU DON'T LIKE I WAS AGAINST IT ON THE FOR THE GET GO.

I MEAN IT'S STILL OKAY.

SAME THING FOR ME.

AND I THINK MISS TOWNSEND EXPRESSED SAFETY CONCERNS.

I DID. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM FIVE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT OF LIVE OAK RANCH.

[5. Discussion and possible action on the final plat of Live Oak Ranch]

MR SPRIGGS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS LIVE OAK RANCH, A FINAL PLAT. THIS IS ANOTHER SUBDIVISION THAT IS NEARING COMPLETION.

SO THEY ARE APPROACHING US WITH THE REQUEST OF THE FINAL PLAT AND THE CONSTRUCTION DOCS BEING CONSIDERED FOR FINAL APPROVAL FOR THE 20 ACRES THAT YOU SEE HERE WITH THE 65 LOTS, THREE BLOCKS AND ONE RESERVE WITH THE PROPERTY LOCATED JUST ON THE EAST SIDE OF ANGLETON DRIVE NORTH OF BISTROP.

AS STATED THERE, THE.

APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THEIR PLAT, CITY ENGINEER HAS REVIEWED IT.

WE'VE LOOKED AT IT IN TERMS OF CLEARING SOME OF THE COMMENTS.

WE NOTICED THAT SOME OF THE EASEMENTS GOT ADJUSTED ON THE UTILITY EASEMENT BEING 7.5.

YOU REQUIRED A TEN FOOT EASEMENT ON THOSE SIDE YARDS.

SO WE'RE REQUESTING THAT BE CONSIDERED FOR CORRECTION AND THAT ANY OUTSTANDING I'M SORRY COMMENTS THAT THE CITY ENGINEER WOULD NOTICE ARE CLEARED PRIOR TO FINAL ACTION BY THE COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

THE PLAT OTHERWISE MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

OF THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

COMMENTS. MOVE WE APPROVE THE PLAT.

A MOTION BY MRS. SPOOR TO APPROVE.

SECOND. BY MRS. TOWNSEND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. CARRIES.

THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA.

AND SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.