>> ARE YOU STARTING OR DO YOU WANT ME TO START?
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>> IF YOU DON'T MIND STARTING.
>> I HAVE 5:30, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, WE HAVE FOUR PRESENT.
[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER ]
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CALL US A MEETING OF THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING COOPERATION TO ORDER.I GUESS MOVING ON TO ANOTHER AGENDA, I HAVE NUMBER 1,
[1. Discussion and possible action on the election of a chairperson for the Angleton Better Living Corporation. ]
DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ELECTION OF A CHAIRPERSON FOR THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION. GO AHEAD, MEGAN.>> YES. WE DO NEED TO ELECT A CHAIRPERSON FOR ABLC SINCE MAYOR HAS FALLEN OFF AND WE HAVE A NEW MAYOR, JOHN WRIGHT.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR THE ELECTION OF A CHAIRPERSON FOR THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION.
>> I MOVE THAT WE ELECT MAYOR JOHN WRIGHT.
>> ARE YOU ELECTING THE CHAIRMAN?
>> I MOVE THAT WE ELECT JOHN WRIGHT, NEW MAYOR, AS OUR CHAIRMAN.
>> OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND OR FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, EVERYONE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
>> ANYONE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN? THAT MOTION CARRIES. JOHN, I'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE CONTROL OF THE MEETING.
>> AT NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF
[2. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Better Living Corporation meeting of April 17, 2023.]
THE ABLC CORPORATION MEETING OF APRIL 17, 2023.ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS, DISCUSSIONS ON THE MINUTES?
>> I WASN'T HERE, SO I HAVE NO IDEA.
>> I WASN'T HERE, SO I HAVE NO IDEA.
>> MR. WALSH, I THINK IT WAS JUST ME AND YOU HERE IN THIS GROUP.
DR. JAKES IS NOT IN HERE AND AIME IS NOT HERE.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
>> I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, A SECOND FOR APPROVAL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CAL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAVE THE VOTE BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSING, SAME SIGN? MOTION CARRIES.
[3. Discussion and possible action on the Angleton Better Living Corporation, Recreation division, and Angleton Recreation Center division YTD financial statements as of May 31, 2023.]
AT NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION FOR POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ABLC ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DIVISION HERE TODAY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS OF MAY 31ST, 2023.>> GOOD EVENING. AS OF THE END OF MAY, WE HAD ABOUT $60,000 CASH IN THE BANK IN THE RECREATION DIVISION PAPERS THAT I ORDERED [INAUDIBLE].
THE RECREATION DIVISION WAS CREATED SO THAT WE COULD SEPARATE OUT THE RECREATION ACTIVITIES FROM THE ACTIVITY CENTER ITSELF OR RECREATION CENTER ITSELF.
THE DEPARTMENT IS SETTING AT ABOUT 40% OF BUDGET AS FAR AS EXPENSES.
AT THE END OF MAY WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN 66.67% OF BUDGET.
THE DIVISION IS DOING WELL AS FAR AS BEING UNDER BUDGET.
BUT AS YOU KNOW, THAT DIVISION GETS REALLY BUSY IN THE SUMMERTIME, SO WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT TO SEE THE EXPENSES INCREASE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
THE NEXT FINANCIALS I'LL GO OVER ARE THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION AS OF THE END OF MAY, THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY $283,000 IN THE BANK WITH A FUND BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY 270,000.
SALES TAX REVENUE FOR THE ABLC ON THE FINANCIALS THAT I SENT YOU IS SETTING AT 54% OF BUDGET.
HOWEVER, THAT IS WEIRD BECAUSE THE WAY THAT WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR OUR SALES TAX REVENUE.
IF WE LOOK AT THE COLLECTIONS BASED ON THE MONTH THAT MONEY CAME IN, THE ABLC IS SITTING AT 72.97% OF BUDGET, AND SO WE'RE WELL OVER BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.
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>> YES, THAT'S REVENUE. THE EXPENSES ARE SETTING ABOUT 56.42% OF BUDGET.
ONE THING I TO MAKE NOTE OF THE TRANSFER TO DEBT SERVICE FOR ABOUT 49% OF BUDGET.
THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN THE BUDGET WAS PREPARED, IT WAS BASED ON ONE OF THE CLS THAT THE LAST YEAR PAYMENTS BEING PAID THIS YEAR.
HOWEVER, IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, TWO PAYMENTS WERE MADE SO THAT THE LOAN WAS PAID OFF.
I HAVE ADJUSTED THE TRANSFERS FROM ABLC TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, SO THAT'S GOING TO HELP TO FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE LAST DIVISION WOULD BE THE RECREATION CENTER.
RECREATION CENTER HAS ABOUT $248,000 IN CASH.
THE RECREATION CENTER REVENUES ARE SETTING IN ABOUT 71% OF BUDGET AND EXPENSES ARE AT ABOUT 63% OF BUDGET.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THAT EXTRA DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT, WHAT WAS THAT? HOW MUCH WAS THAT AGAIN?
>> I DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS A DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT GOT MADE IN FEBRUARY AND THEN IT GOT MADE AGAIN IN AUGUST.
SO I'M THINKING 200,000 MAYBE.
>> IN MY MIND I WAS THINKING 250,000, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN MY HEAD, BUT YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, 200,000.
>> BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> THAT'S JUST GONNA GO STRAIGHT INTO THE FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR?
>> OKAY. HOW DID WE ACCOUNT FOR THAT LAST YEAR WHEN WE CLOSE THE BOOKS FOR THE FULL YEAR, WAS THAT A LOSS? DID WE HAVE AN EXTRA 200,000 TO COVER THAT? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
>> IT CAME OUT OF FUND BALANCE.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. SO BASICALLY WE JUST REPLACED WHAT WE TOOK?
>> FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT AND ME THOUGH THINK SOMETHING MIGHT BE OFF THERE. IT HAD TO BE.
I REMEMBER I WAS ACCOUNTING FOR EVERY PENNY OF THE FUND BALANCE LAST BUDGET OR LAST YEAR, AND THEN BE ABLE TO TAKE 200,000 OUT WITHOUT THAT ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW. CHARLENE WAS STILL HERE AND I GUARANTEE YOU CHARLENE WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT.
>> ONE THING THAT I'LL MENTION IS WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE FUND BALANCE, I THINK AT CITY COUNCIL JUST HERE RECENTLY, ARE SURPRISED TO LEARN IT WAS JUST UNDER 300,000 BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR ABLC WAS SITTING AT A FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 800,000.
TO ME THAT NOW MAKES SENSE THAT TWO PAYMENTS WERE MADE BECAUSE WHILE WE DID GO OVER IN OUR CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM FOR ABLC, FOR THE LIGHTS, WE HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS WE WENT OVER.
WE WERE ANTICIPATING TO TAKE FROM THE FUND BALANCE, SO THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.
IF WE NEED TO PUT PEN TO PAPER, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A DEBT SCHEDULE FROM LAST YEAR.
WE CAN CALCULATE THE INITIAL PAYMENT, THE SECOND PAYMENT, ALONG WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD BUDGETED. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
>> IT'S MORE OF A FORENSIC ON THE FUND BALANCE.
WHAT WAS THE FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF '21 THAN WHAT WAS AT THE END OF '22, AND THEN WHERE WE'RE AT NOW? THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT EXTRA PAYMENT POP IN THERE WHERE WE WERE AND HOW THIS IS REPLACING THAT BACK.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WALKS THROUGH THE TIMELINE OF THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.
>> I SAW THE SALES TAX NUMBERS COME BACK, THIS WAS AT THIS WEEK, AND THIS WAS LAST WEEK THEY ALL SENT THAT OUT WHERE THEY WERE DOWN JUST SLIGHTLY IN THE LAST MONTH.
BUT STILL, I THINK CUMULATIVE 8%.
>> WE'RE BUDGETING WHAT, 10, 11, SOMEWHERE IN THERE?
>> NO. LAST YEAR, IT WAS PRETTY HIGH, AND SO THE REQUESTS FROM ABLC WAS TO BRING IT DOWN TO THE HISTORICAL 8%, WHICH WAS A TREND THAT WE HAD BEEN SEEING YEAR OVER YEAR.
>> WE'RE GOOD AT EIGHT, BUT YOU WILL SEE,
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AND WE'LL MENTION IN THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT BUDGETING AT NINE.>> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS? I GUESS I HAVE ANOTHER ONE THERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING, YOUR FILL IS VERY ASTUTE OF SAYING THAT A LOT OF YOUR EXPENSES ARE GOING TO COME IN THE SUMMER DURING ALL THE PROGRAMMING THAT GOES ON.
I'VE USED STAFFED UP MORE THAN PREVIOUS HISTORICAL NORMS FOR THIS YEAR OR ARE WE STILL IN LINE WITH THE SAME HEAD COUNT BASICALLY THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.
>> SAME HEADCOUNT AS LAST YEAR.
OUR PROGRAMMING, IF YOU REMEMBER, PRE-COVID, WE HAND THINGS LIKE SUMMER JAM BERRY.
THAT WAS A GREAT DEAL OF PART-TIME SEASONAL, SO YOU HAVE SEEN A MAJOR REDUCTION.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS YEAR AND ALSO PROPOSING TO DO NEXT YEAR, EVEN WITH ADDING ON SIMILAR TYPES OF PROGRAMS LIKE SUMMER JAM BERRY, MAYBE NOT TO THE FULL EXTENT THAT IT WAS AT IS WORKING WITH THE STAFF THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE.
WORKING WITH OUR FULL-TIME STAFF.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE THIS COMMENT BUT IT'S A COMMENT THAT I HAVE, SO I'LL JUST SAY IT.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ABLC FUND BALANCE, HOW CAN WE VOTE ON OUR UPCOMING ITEMS WHERE IT'S BEING REQUESTED OR FUNDS ARE BEING REQUESTED.
>> WHILE YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE HISTORICAL TRANSACTIONS FROM 2021 TO NOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, FILL THIS THING THAT WE HAVE 270,000 AVAILABLE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
>> OKAY. WE'RE PRETTY SURE OF THAT REGARDLESS.
>> I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT.
TO ME, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE FUND BALANCE TRANSITION.
WE HAVE 270,000 IN THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAD 800 LAST YEAR AND THEN WE MADE THE EXTRA PAYMENT, LET'S SAY 250 BEING CONSERVATIVE, THEN PUTTING 250 BACK, ARE YOU ACCOUNTING FOR THAT TO 50 BACK IN YET? OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED AT THE END OF THE YEAR? IF THAT'S THE CASE, AND WHERE DOES THE OTHER 400,000 GO?
>> THAT MONEY WILL GO BACK INTO THE FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
I CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY MORE DETAIL ON THAT RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
>> AT THE END OF THE YEAR AS IN DECEMBER?
>> THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM 3.
>> EXCUSE ME. YES. THANK YOU FOR MOVING THIS [LAUGHTER].
I GUESS WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THREE, WHICH IS A PRESENTATION BASICALLY.
[4. Discussion and possible action on Parks and Rights-of-Way, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation division budgets for the fiscal year 2023-2024.]
I REMEMBER FOR DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON PARKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY RECREATION ANGLES AND REC CENTER AND ANGLES AND BETTER LIVING CORPORATION DIVISION BUDGETS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023/2024.>> YES, SO WE DID BRING ABLC PRELIMINARY BUDGET NUMBERS FOR THESE DIVISIONS, NOT INCLUDING RIGHT AWAY AT THE APRIL MEETING.
THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AND BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
ONE OF WHICH IS THAT STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO COMBINE PARKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY DIVISIONS AND SO YOU WILL SEE THAT COMBINED ON THE PARKS SPECIFICALLY, WHICH IS ACCOUNT NUMBER 01550.
YOU HAVE THAT THERE IN YOUR PACKET.
AGAIN, SOME THINGS TO NOTE SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO THAT LINE ITEM IS LAST YEAR ABLC HAD DISCUSSIONS AS WELL AS COUNSEL ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF PERSONNEL THAT WOULD
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BE SUBSIDIZED BY ABLC FOR PARKS SPECIFICALLY.NOW THAT IT IS COMBINED, YOU ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET.
THIS PAST YEAR WE HAD A 30% OF PARKS PERSONNEL BEING PAID OR TRANSFERRED BY ABLC INTO GENERAL FUND.
THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THE COMBINATION OF PARKS AND RIGHT AWAY THAT 25% OF PERSONNEL BE PAID AND TRANSFERRED BY ABLC.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL NOTE, AS WELL AS LAST YEAR CITY COUNCIL RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO NOT GO BELOW THE 25% THRESHOLD.
ABLC HAD RECENT OR AT THE LAST MEETING AND EVEN THE YEAR BEFORE, DISGUST TRYING TO BRING THAT PERCENTAGE DOWN.
STAFF IS TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH THE CORPORATION AND CITY COUNCIL BY NOT GOING BELOW 25, BUT ALSO REDUCING IT 30-25.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME ACCOUNTS THAT APPEAR TO BE REDUCED.
BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD NOTE IS WHILE THEY ARE REDUCED, WE HAVE SOME OTHER ACCOUNT LINE ITEMS THAT WERE INCREASED.
ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS SOFTWARE.
THIS PAST YEAR, ALL DEPARTMENTS WERE WORKING WITH FINANCE TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE CONSISTENTLY INNER DEPARTMENT ONLY CHARGING SOFTWARE AND DIFFERENT CHARGES TO THE PROPER ACCOUNTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WHILE WE MAY HAVE BUDGETED SOFTWARE IN ONE LINE ITEM, IT REALLY WASN'T APPROPRIATE, SO WE TRANSITIONED IT TO THE APPROPRIATE LINE ITEM THAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN CHARGING IT TOO.
YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES.
WE ALSO HAD AN INCREASE IN MEDICAL EXPENSES.
THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE INITIALLY WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WAS FOR ON-BOARDING AND DRUG TESTING FOR ON-BOARDING.
BUT THAT IS ALSO WHERE OUR RANDOM DRUG TESTS ARE TAKEN FROM, SO WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT.
WE HAVE ALSO SEEN AN INCREASE IN OUR FUEL EXPENSES AS WELL AS EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES.
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR AN INCREASE, SPECIFICALLY IN EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES IS THE ADDITION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DIVISION.
WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS WITH THE TRACTORS THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS WITH SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU SEE IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
THOSE ARE SOME INCREASES, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.
AGAIN, SOME OF THESE LINE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE INCREASES, IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE TRANSFERRING THE OPERATIONAL COSTS OR THE EXPENDITURES FROM RIGHT AWAY INTO THE PARKS DIVISION.
I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE RENTAL EXPENSES WE HAVE IN HERE ARE FOR A SKID STEER TO HELP WITH SOME OF OUR WINNER PROJECTS AND JUST PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
BUT THAT WOULD BE ELIMINATED IF A CITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO APPROVE A DECISION PACKAGE FOR A LEASE TO OWN SKID STEER.
ALSO, ANNUAL SOFTWARE THAT PAYS FOR AI WORKS IN SUFIS SUBSCRIPTIONS IS IN THEIR SO FAR A NEW ELECTRONIC DISPLAY AT BATES PARK, AND THERE'S A SUBSCRIPTION FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
YOU WILL SEE THAT AS AN ANNUAL SOFTWARE FEE.
IN ABLC, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE WILL BE BUDGETING BASED ON A 9% SALES TAX INCREASE BASED ON FISCAL YEAR 22 ACTUAL.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE TRANSFER OF PARKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR PERSONNEL REDUCED FROM 30-25%.
THE RECREATION DIVISION, MOST OF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE AND WENT THROUGH THE LENGTHY PROCESS OF US CHANGING AND SEPARATING THE DIVISIONS FROM THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AS A WHOLE TO ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND THE RECREATION DIVISION.
KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE ANGLE TAN RECREATION CENTER DIVISION IS SPECIFICALLY THE FACILITY AND EVERYTHING THAT HELPS TO OPERATE THE FACILITY.
NOW YOU CAN REALLY SEE HOW THE CITY OR ABLC IS SUBSIDIZING THE REVENUE WE'RE NOT GENERATING BY THE FACILITY OR VICE VERSA, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB ON THE ACTUAL EXPENSE OF OPERATING VERSUS BRINGING IN REVENUE FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.
RECREATION DIVISION IS LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
MAYBE YOU'LL SEE IT'S STILL SUBSIDIZING THAT.
ONE THING THAT MAY NOT BE REFLECTED IN YOUR BUDGET SUMMARY, BUT IS REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET SHEETS ARE THAT WE ARE KEEPING THAT ITEM FLAT.
WE HAD ANTICIPATED A REVENUE INCREASE THIS PAST YEAR BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING WITH AN I9 FOR YOUTH SPORTS.
THAT DID NOT PAN OUT AS WE HAD HOPED.
NEXT YEAR WE HOPE TO ADDRESS THAT BY OFFERING YOUTH PROGRAMS IN-HOUSE, REDUCING THE ACTUAL COSTS, INCREASING THE REVENUE, AND THEN ALSO INCORPORATING SUMMER JAM BARRY BACK INTO OUR PROGRAM OFFERINGS.
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WE'RE KEEPING THE REVENUE FLAT FOR THAT REASON, WE DO ANTICIPATE INCREASE REVENUE EVEN THOUGH WE WILL HAVE A REDUCTION IN THOSE CONTRACT PARTNERSHIPS.>> THAT'S WHERE YOU GET INTO 39,000 INCREASE IN REVENUES FROM?
>> NO, THE 39,000 INCREASE IS ACTUALLY FROM MEMBERSHIP.
SO ONCE WE CHANGE THE MEMBERSHIP STRUCTURE, AND THEN ALSO THE WAY THAT WE TOOK PATEMAN FOR REOCCURRING PAYMENT, THAT IS WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THAT INCREASE.
IT WAS A GREAT MOVE. IT'S PAYING OFF.
>> IS IT IN VOLUME OR JUST IN DOLLARS?
>> I'M TRYING TO THINK. I THINK BOTH.
ON OUR PARKS MEMO, YOU CAN GO TO OUR PARK PROJECT PAGE.
WE HAVE A MONTHLY MEMO THAT WE PUT OUT AND IT ACTUALLY SHOWS OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO DAILY PASS USERS, MEMBERSHIPS, THE TYPE OF MEMBERSHIP USE, AND IN COMPARISON FROM YEAR OVER YEAR, YOU'RE SEEING PRETTY STEADY INCREASES SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
COUNTY? YEAH. WE DO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE EXTENDED TO THE COUNTY.
WE'VE ALSO EXTENDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THEM YET.
BUT WE JUST DID A PROMOTIONAL.
I THINK IT WAS IT FOR TWO MONTHS OR ONE MONTH. TWO MONTHS.
BUT THIS IS THE FIRST MONTH OF DISCOUNTED RATE.
COUNTY EMPLOYEES HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND SIGN UP FOR DISCOUNTED RATES, AND SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN AN OUTCOME OF THAT YET.
WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH A FULL MONTH, IF YOU WILL, TO ASSESS WHETHER THAT WAS EFFECTIVE.
>> AS I HAVE LIKE 75 QUESTIONS, AT LEAST.
[LAUGHTER] THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
THE FIRST OF WHICH IS, I PERSONALLY AM NOT EVEN EXACTLY SURE WHAT RIGHT-OF-WAY IS.
>> WHAT ARE THEY BECAUSE TO ME THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOGICAL JOINT FOR THEM JUST BASED ON WORD AND KNOWLEDGE AND LACK OF KNOWLEDGE FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
WHY WAS THAT PUT WITH PARKS AND REC? OR WHAT IS IT? MAYBE THAT'LL ANSWER.
>> IN SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR AWHILE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BETTER TO TOWARDS THIS TOPIC IN PARTICULAR, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS UNDER PUBLIC WORKS AT ONE TIME.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS A LOT OF JOINT USE FOR MY UNDERSTANDING AND WE STILL OPERATE THAT TODAY AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT.
OUR PUBLIC RAILWAYS ARE REALLY DEALING WITH A LOT OF OUR BEAUTIFICATION AREAS OR DOWNTOWN NASHVILLE AND AIDS ON LOOP TO 74, THOUGH WE HAVE A CREW THAT ADDRESSES THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE THEM AND DRESSING DRAINAGE THROUGHOUT IF WE HAVE EASEMENTS.
WHAT IS ONE SPECIFICALLY? I THINK IT'S BEHIND CATHERINE.
THERE'S SECTIONS LIKE THAT ALL OVER TOWN THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT ARE JUST EASEMENT BUT THEN OUR RIGHT AWAY CREW AND OPEN WE CALL THEM RIGHT AWAY AND OPEN SPACE.
IT CONSISTS OF A CREW LEADER AND TWO CREW MEMBERS AND THEN WE HAVE TRACTOR DRIVERS.
THIS TRACTOR DRIVERS ARE NOT ONLY ADDRESSING OUR DITCHES AND DRAINAGE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DOING THE OPEN SPACE LIKE A FREEDOM PARK OR ABIGAIL OR WELCH, AND SO IT OVERLAPS WITH PARK OPERATIONS.
IF YOU SEE OR HAVE SEEN IN OUR BUDGET HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE SALARIES AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE OTHER LINE ITEMS AND COMPARISON TO LOOK AT YOUR FIRST PAGE OF PARKS LINE ITEMS. THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE IN A DIVISION AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP AS IT RELATES TO TRAINING, APPAREL, ALL OF THAT.
THE IDEA WAS LET'S COMBINE IT ALL INTO ONE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH OVERLAP AND THEY'RE WORKING IN A LOT OF OUR PARKS AS IT IS.
>> THEN DOES THAT ALL THAT NOW FIT UNDER YOUR UMBRELLA?
>> IT ALWAYS HAS. WE ALWAYS MANAGED IT, BUT IT WAS FINANCIALLY CONSTRUCTED AS TWO DIFFERENT DIVISIONS WERE COMBINING IT TO ONE.
>> FOR YOU, IT ACTUALLY MAKES MORE SENSE.
>> THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO SAY THOUGH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE STILL FALLING WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE BYLAWS OF AVLC AS IT IS WRITTEN, AND HOW IT FUNCTIONS AS A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR PARKS, DRAINAGE, AND RECREATION.
BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING IN SUBSIDIZING THE GENERAL FUND, WE WANTED TO MAKE IT CERTAIN THAT WE WERE STILL FOLLOWING THE BYLAWS THAT AVLC HAD.
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WITH THAT 25%, WE DO BELIEVE WE ARE DOING THAT AS IT RELATES TO PERSONNEL.WHAT AVLC IS SUBSIDIZING, WE DO STILL FIND THAT WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE BY-LAWS.
>> WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION AND THAT IS, WHY DID YOU GUYS SAY NOT TO GO BELOW 25%?
>> BECAUSE WHAT IT WOULD DO AN IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY TAX VALUATION OF THE CITY.
PLUS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF ALL THE PARKS THAT ARE BEING BUILT AND THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE, I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT AVLC PORT, AT LEAST 25% OF THAT IN THERE TO HELP SUPPORT ALL WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING.
THAT WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT WITH CHARLOTTE AND CHRIS BACK IN THE DAY AS WELL.
WE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
>> WELL, ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS I HAPPENED TO BE HERE.
>> [LAUGHTER] IT WASN'T ROBUST DISCUSSION, IT WAS AGREE TO DISAGREE AND SITUATION.
I DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING DOWN 30-25.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S THINKING IS IN TERMS OF KEEPING IT AT 25.
>> 30- 25 THOUGH, MY GUESS IS YOU'RE GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT.
WE'RE JUST ADDING [OVERLAPPING] SO WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DOING IS YOU'RE ADDED THREE POSITIONS INSTEAD OF DOING ANY FUNDING OUT OF A AVLC FOR THOSE THREE POSITIONS, YOU'RE JUST KEEPING IT AS IT WAS. I'M JUST ASSUMING.
IF YOU GUYS LOOK AT PAGE 47 DAYS [OVERLAPPING].
BECAUSE WE'VE COMBINED THE DIVISION THE AMOUNT REALLY FROM YEAR OVER YEAR.
>> TO SAY YOUR MOUTH FROM YEAR TO YEAR IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
IT'S JUST THAT YOU GOT IT 3%, WHICH INCREASES YOUR TOTAL NUMBER, WHICH REDUCES YOUR PERCENTAGE. ROUGHLY ABOUT.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE THIS CURRENT BUDGET WE WERE AT 275, LITTLE OVER ALMOST 276,000.
>> WE'RE GOING TO 365,000 BY COMBINING THOSE AND ALSO REDUCING YOUR PERCENTAGE.
>> ON CITY COUNCIL, MY PERSPECTIVE WAS THAT OBVIOUSLY WE USE AVLC AS A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR OUR PARKS AND THEREFORE WE WILL JUST APPROPRIATELY GO WITH FUNDING FOR THOSE WHO SERVICE THE PARKS.
>> I THINK IT'S FAIR 25% A QUARTER OF THE BUDGET OF A AVLC IS GOING TO FUND THE PARKS.
IT'S NOT BEING TAKEN FROM ANYWHERE ELSE.
PLUS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND JUST GIVING A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE HISTORY OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT WAS UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, AND SOMETIME BEFORE I GOT BACK ON COUNCIL IN 2018, BASICALLY THEY WERE FIGHTING OVER MOWERS AND EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND SO PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS BASICALLY THE MANPOWER BEHIND LAW THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THEY SAID, IF THESE MOWERS AND ALL THIS EQUIPMENT ARE GOING TO BE FOR PARKS, THEN IT GOES UNDER PARKS, AND SO THEY MOVED IT OVER TO PARKS, TAKING AWAY FROM PUBLIC WORKS.
IT'S ALSO THE SAME IN A LOT OF CASES AT SOME OF THE SAME AREAS OF WHERE THEY'RE AT, WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY MOWING AND MAINTAINING.
I WASN'T A PART OF THAT DECISION BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM AN AVLC STANDPOINT, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY MOWING IS A DRAINAGE FEATURE.
IF YOU'RE MOWING THOSE AREAS, YOU'RE KEEPING THE WATER FLOWING WHENEVER IT RAINS.
I CAN SEE THAT POSITION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY MOWING HELPS DRAINAGE, HELPS US MOVE.
WE WILL NOT OUT FORBID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND THE BIDS CAME BACK MASSIVE.
>> THOSE WERE JUST VERY SPECIFIC SECTIONS THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THE WORK THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY EMPLOYEES WERE DOING WITHIN OUR PARKS.
>> ALSO CITY COUNCIL DOES BUDGET TOWARDS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THESE DEPARTMENTS SO WE HAVE BUDGETED I REMEMBER IN THE PAST YEAR SO MANY TRACTORS AND SO IT'S NOT LIKE CITY IS NOT GIVING BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE HELPING PAY FOR,
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LIKE I SAID, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, THOSE THINGS YOU WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM.ONCE YOU'VE EXPLAINED IT, THAT MAKES SENSE AND, MEGAN'S REPRESENTATION IS THAT YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY MUCH BETTER FOR THEM SO THAT DEPARTMENT'S HAPPY AND THAT'S FINE.
THE SALARIES, THAT DOESN'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE TO ME BECAUSE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE PARKS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT LIGHTING, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOIL, WE'RE LOOKING AT LOTS OF OTHER THINGS.
AS I REMEMBER THAT ROBUST CONVERSATION, THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OR NOW ARE WE STILL CALLING IT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT? ARE WE CHANGING THE NAME?
>> AS FAR AS THE DEPARTMENT WHERE THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WE OVERSEE SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS, INCLUDING PARKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY [OVERLAPPING] KEEP SINGLETON BEAUTIFUL RECREATION ANGLES IN OREXIN.
>> SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE NAME?
>> AS FAR AS THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT THEN BE ABLE TO PAY AND MAINTAIN ITS OWN EMPLOYEES, AND THEN THAT FREED UP THAT MONEY TO BUILD A NEW PARK, TO DO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE NEEDED TO DO FOR THE PARK, BUT THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION AND UNDERSTANDING, AND SO I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE CITY THINKING WAS BEHIND THAT.
OTHERWISE, THOSE ARE MY MAIN QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON MEGAN'S PRESENTATION OR ITEM 4.
>> I WAS GOING TO HAVE SIMILAR QUESTION, AND I THINK IT'S HARD TO COVER THEM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
>> I DO WANT TO MENTION AS A CORPORATION, THE CORPORATION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING THE BUDGET.
WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU GUYS IN APRIL.
NOW IN JUNE, WE WILL HAVE BUDGET WORKSHOP WITH CITY COUNCIL, OUR DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY ON JULY 8TH.
WE WILL MEET AGAIN IN AUGUST, BUT THAT AUGUST MEETING, WE REALLY ARE NEEDING TO HAVE AN ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET, IF NOT AT THIS MEETING.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I'LL JUST TELL YOU JUST POINT OF HOUSEKEEPING.
THE FORMS THAT ARE IN HERE, THEY'RE REALLY HARD TO READ, THEY'RE WASHED OUT IN A LOT OF CASES.
I LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT THE OLD STYLE WITH THEIR REPORT WAS A LOT CLEANER, LESS LINES, YOU COULD ACTUALLY FOLLOW IT.
THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE, SIMPLIFYING THAT DOWN WOULD BE MUCH BETTER, PROBABLY EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO READ.
>> WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE HAVE DONE HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE AN INTERNAL BUDGET WORKING DOCUMENT THAT OUR STAFF USES, SO WE CAN PRESENT THAT AT THE AUGUST MEETING.
>> I DO AGREE ON THE WASHED-OUT NUMBERS AND I GUESS THAT'S TO INDICATE WHETHER WHAT SIDE OF THE LEDGER YOU'RE ON.
>> I HAVE A HARD TIME APPROVING A BUDGET WHEN WE HAVE NOW $400,000 IN QUESTION OF WHERE'S THAT? UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT, I DON'T PARTICULARLY FEEL COMFORTABLE.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS ON FOUR? I GUESS I'LL MOVE TO NUMBER 5 THEN.
[5. Discussion and possible action to approve funding from ABLC fund balance to haul dirt from Freedom Park northern tract to BG Peck Soccer Complex. ]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE FUNDING FROM ABLC FUND BALANCE TO HAUL DIRT FROM FREEDOM PARK TO NORTHERN TRACK OF B.G PECK SOCCER COMPLEX.>> YES. THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WE STAFF TOOK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION.
IT INCLUDED FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR SITES.
CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WAS TO APPROACH ABLC ABOUT FUNDING THIS ONE SITE IN PARTICULAR, WHICH IS B.G PECK SOCCER COMPLEX, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WOULD GREATLY IMPROVE B.G PECK SOCCER COMPLEX, THE DRAINAGE WITHIN THE FACILITY, AND JUST HELP INCREASE THE USE OF THE FACILITY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
ONE THING THAT I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY POINT OUT IS THAT PROJECTS LIKE THIS FOR ABLC DO HAVE TO BE PRESENTED AS A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DID PRESENT THIS AS A PUBLIC HEARING BACK IN JANUARY OF THIS PAST YEAR.
WE PUT LANGUAGE THAT INCLUDED ENCOMPASS ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN OUR PARK DEVELOPMENTS, AND SO WE HAVE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDER FOR YOU TO DISCUSS AND POSSIBLY APPROVE FUNDING THIS INITIATIVE.
STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH HDR SINCE 2021 TO TRY TO RESOLVE DRAINAGE ISSUES AT B.G PECK SOCCER COMPLEX.
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THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED RECUTTING THE DITCHES THAT FLOW OUT TO HIGHWAY 288, AS WELL AS HAULING DIRT TO FILL SLOPE AND REGRADE ALL OF THE FIELDS.I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT FOUR INCHES ON ALL THE FIELDS.
OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO HAVE IRRIGATION ADJUSTMENTS, HYDRO MULCHING OR SOD AS WE MOVE THROUGH EACH OF THESE FIELDS.
THIS IS A MULTI-PHASE PROJECT.
THIS ITEM HERE THIS EVENING IS SPECIFICALLY TO BRING DIRT TO THE COMPLEX.
THIS IS NOT FUNDING FOR THE ACTUAL GRADING OF THE FIELDS, RAISING THE ELEVATION OF THE IRRIGATION, SODDING OR HYDRO MULCHING.
WE DID NOTE TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL DID MENTION THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT EVERYONE SHOULD CONSIDER.
SOME OF THOSE ITEMS ARE WHETHER OR NOT WE EVEN HAVE THE EQUIPMENT ONCE IT'S HAULED AND DONE TO ACTUALLY PILOT.
WE HAVE TALKED INTERNALLY AS A STAFF.
WE DO FEEL WE HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA THAT WILL ELIMINATE USE OF THE PARKING LOTS.
WE DO FEEL THERE IS AMPLE SPACE BETWEEN THE EVENT CENTER AND THE MOUND, IF YOU WILL.
[LAUGHTER] ON THE FAR WEST SIDE, WE DO THINK THAT THERE IS AMPLE SPACE, BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE A DOSSIER TO ASSIST WITH THAT PROJECT.
STAFF HAS COLLECTED PRICING ON THAT.
I'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONCE I PULL THAT UP, BUT THAT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL COST THAT IS NOT LISTED HERE ON YOUR ESTIMATED FUNDS.
WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO US.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE US WITH THIS DIRT AT ALL, THEY JUST HAD EXCESS DIRT AND THOUGHT TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY AS TO BE CONSIDERED AND SAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY USE OF THE DIRT? WE DID NOTE THAT WE HAD USED IN A VARIETY OF AREAS, AND THIS BEING OUR TOP PRIORITY.
ON AGAIN, JUNE 13TH, JUST HERE RECENTLY, WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THEY REFERRED US TO ABLC.
WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS HELP WITH THE TRANSPORT OF ALMOST 15,000 CUBIC YARDS OF DIRT TO RAISE THE ELEVATION OF THOSE SOCCER FIELDS.
THE QUOTES DO VARY QUITE A BIT.
WE'VE COLLECTED THREE FOR HAULING, THE MOST INEXPENSIVE ONE BEING LISTED ON THE FUNDING REQUEST HERE THIS EVENING.
AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE WOULD GO OUT FOR REQUEST FOR BIDS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING IN LINE WITH THE STATE AND LOCAL PROCUREMENT LAWS.
WE'VE ALSO OUTLINED HERE AT THE END OF YOUR AGENDA SUMMARY, JUST THAT THIS IS MULTI-PHASE.
THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO.
FIRST OF ALL, SOLIDIFYING FUNDING FOR THE TRANSPORT OF THIS DIRT, AND STOCKPILING.
RECUT THE DRAINAGE DITCHES, WE HAVE NOT YET DONE THAT.
WE HOPE TO DO THAT INTERNALLY WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
CONFIRM DRAINAGE PLAN WITH ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT BEFORE WE FILL SLOPE AND RECREATE THE FIELDS, WHICH WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN ONE AT A TIME IN THE OFF-SEASON.
AGAIN, JUST IMAGINE THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A BIT TO ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE FIELDS.
THEN OF COURSE, MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE IRRIGATION HYDRO MULCHING OR SOD TO FINISH OFF EACH FIELD.
AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IF WE ARE AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WITH THIS PROCESS, WE WOULD ALSO HOLD ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS THROUGHOUT SOME OF THESE PHASES TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
>> THOUGHT ABOUT SOMETHING THE OTHER NIGHT AFTER THE MEETING.
WHAT ABOUT USING THIS? I'M SPECULATING, BUT COULD YOU POSSIBLY USE THE [INAUDIBLE] RANCH PROPERTY TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE BACKSIDE OF THE PARK? BECAUSE THAT GATE IS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT OFF THE SIDE AND YOU CAN RUN RIGHT ALONG THE FENCE LINE BASICALLY WITH A TRUCK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] TO CUT DOWN ON THE?
>> [OVERLAPPING] THE ROAD. THAT WAS ANOTHER.
>> JUST REPAVED, WE'RE GOING TO RUIN IT.
I KEEP THINKING OF WAYS TO ACCESS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE BRAND NEW PAVED ROAD.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY.
IF WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE CERTAINLY COULD.
THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO JUST ASK, EVEN IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
>> YOU PUT A TEMPORARY EASEMENT OR TEMPORARY ACCESS FROM THAT PROPERTY AND THEN FIX THE FENCE LATER.
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IT'S A LOT EASIER TO FIX THE FENCE THAN FIX THE ROAD.>> WE COULD ALSO TALK TO THE RESORTED COUNTY FIRE.
I KNOW THERE IS TO THE INSIDE TO CUT DOWN ON THE USE OF THE MAIN DRIVE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CULVERT OUT AT THE FRONTAGE, SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
>> TO ME, IT SEEMS THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE IT FOUR INCHES AND THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE DRAINAGE, AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO WORK? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE DRAINAGE.
[OVERLAPPING] IT'S SEEMING TO ME THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IT STILL WOULDN'T WORK EVEN THOUGH WE HAD ALL THE DIRT MOVED, THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY NOT BE ABLE TO FIX THE FIELD.
>> WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE EXPENSE OF MAKING THESE CORRECTIONS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT IS PRESENTED HERE TODAY.
WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE FINDINGS, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN ENGINEERED AND PLANNED HAS BEEN CONVEYED TO THE CITY AS A VIABLE SOLUTION.
FROM STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING, WHAT HDR HAS CONVEYED TO US, THIS WILL WORK, BUT WHEN WE ARE WORKING WITH ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER IS FLOWING IN THE CORRECT AND PROPER WAY, WHICH IS PART OF THE SOLUTION HDR HAS PROVIDED.
IN ORDER FOR IT TO WORK PROPERLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO RAISE ELEVATION FOUR INCHES.
WE WOULD HAVE TO RECUT THE DITCHES THAT GO OUT TO 288 TO ENSURE THAT IT'S FLOWING PROPERLY.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT IT WOULD WORK, BUT ALL THE PARTS HAVE TO BE DONE.
>> IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL TO FIX THE FIELDS OR TO FIX DRAINAGE?
>> THE FIXING OF THE FIELDS, THE CONCERN IS POOR DRAINAGE.
WHAT THIS IS DOING IS PROVIDING A CAP ON THE FIELDS TO ALLOW IT TO DRAIN.
THERE WILL BE A CROWN ON THE FIELDS DRAIN OUT TO WHERE THE FRONTAGES OF B.G PECK SOCCER COMPLEX ARE, THAT IF CUT PROPERLY, WILL GO OUT TO 288.
>> IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, DEPENDING ON, WELL, OBVIOUSLY IF IT RAINS, THERE ARE FIELDS THAT ARE UNPLAYABLE, LIKE JUST THE WAY THAT THE GRADE IS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS EVER REALLY GRADED.
[OVERLAPPING] FILLS IN THE FIELD, BASICALLY.
YOU PUT MINEFIELDS IN AN OPEN SPACE.
>> I THINK THE IDEA, THERE ARE SOME FIELDS THAT PROBABLY DON'T WHOLLY NEED TO BE TOUCHED, BUT THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT ARE EXTREMELY LOW, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED MORE.
HOPEFULLY BY ELEVATING, YOU GET THE WATER OFF THE FIELDS A LITTLE BETTER, AND THEN THOSE AREAS WHERE THE NONPARTICIPANTS OR STANDING OR FREE, PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO SLOPE DOWN TO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT WATER, THE RUNOFF.
I THINK YOU CAN IMPROVE ACCESS BY HAVING THE SLOPE OF THE FIELD RAISED A LITTLE BIT, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE LOW-LYING AREAS, MEANING ACCESS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO CANCEL GAMES BECAUSE YOU'RE LITERALLY UNDERWATER.
NOW, IT'S FUNNY WE TALK ABOUT, RIGHT NOW IT'S SO HOT OUTSIDE, WE DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, BUT THERE'S BEEN TIMES THAT YOU CAN NEVER GET RID OF THAT WATER. THAT'S THE IDEA.
>> ONE OTHER THING THAT I'LL NOTE THAT WE DO BELIEVE, STAFF BELIEVES IS THE REQUIREMENT IF WE DO APPROVE THE DIRT HAULING IS THE RENTAL OF A DOZER WHICH IS ABOUT 1,500 A DAY.
>> FOR THE HAULING? [INAUDIBLE]
FOR THE PILING AS THE HAUL DIRT IS DRIVEN AND DUMPED, WE NEED THE DOZER TO PUSH AND PILE.
>> MAY ASK THIS, HOW MANY DAYS WOULD WE HIRE THIS?
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, AND STAFF DOESN'T KNOW AT THIS TIME, BUT WHAT WE CAN SAY IS THE BIDS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LET'S JUST SAY THEY CAN GET ABOUT NINE.
THERE'S ANYWHERE FROM 9-12 CUBIC YARDS THAT CAN GO ON A TRACK.
THAT'S HOW THESE ESTIMATORS ARE CALCULATING WHAT THEY THINK THAT THEY CAN GET IN A TRUCK AND TAKE OUT THERE.
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WE NEED OVER 14,000 CUBIC YARDS.ONE OF OUR ESTIMATES IS RIGHT AROUND 1,200 LOADS, SO THAT'S QUITE LITERALLY A TRUCK GOING FROM FREEDOM PARK TO BIJI PARK 1,200 TIMES.
I CAN'T ESTIMATE HOW MANY THEY CAN DO.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND REQUEST, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY AT THIS TIME THEY CAN DO IN A DAY.
>> WILL WE EXPECT THEM TO USE ONE TRUCK?
>> THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION.
I WOULD EXPECT THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE'RE UTILIZING HAVE MORE THAN ONE TRUCK.
>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I'VE AN ANSWER, IS I KNOW IT'S AN APPROXIMATION.
I'M SURE THERE'S NO WAY TO POSSIBLY TELL EXACTLY.
ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THEY'RE GOOD AT THEIR BUSINESS, MAYBE THEY DO KNOW.
BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE ADDING ON $1,500 A DAY COST,10 DAYS OR AT 15 GRANITE, 20 OR DOUBLE THAT.
>> DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH ACTUAL SPACE YOU HAVE TO PUT ALL THIS DIRT TO BASICALLY STORED.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING.
FOR NOW, YOU MIGHT NOT NEED THE DOZER TILL HALFWAY DONE.
THEN THAT THOSE CAN START PUSHING IT.
THEY MIGHT BE EVEN DONE DUMPING THAT 14,500 CUBIC YARDS AND IT'S A LOT OF DIRT, CUBIC YARDS.
>> WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF WHEN WE CONTRACT IT LIKE THIS, SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
TO SET A PARAMETER, AND I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE, OF A 30 DAY CONTRACT, EVEN IF THEY DON'T GET THE FULL 1,400 CUBIC OR IS IT 14,000, 1,400?
>> FOURTEEN THOUSAND CUBIC YARDS.
EVEN IF THEY ONLY ACCOMPLISHED NINE OR 10, AND IT HELPS US KEEP IT INTO A BUDGET.
WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M SURE THAT 10,000 CUBIC YARDS MAY BE ENOUGH TO GET THE PROJECT DONE.
>> WELL, BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS FROM HDR, IT QUITE LITERALLY IS 14,500 CUBIC YARDS IN ORDER TO GET THE FULL PROJECT DONE.
BUT SOME OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER AS WE ARE ON A TIMELINE AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BATTLING HERE, IS WE CAN PUT THOSE DETAILS IN THE SCOPE OF WORK.
WE WILL HAVE TO GO OUT A BIT, LIKE I MENTIONED, PUBLISH A BIT SO WE CAN PUT THAT INFORMATION IN THERE.
BUT ONCE THE DEVELOPERS GET PAST THE POINT OF NEEDING TO OFFLOAD THE DIRT, WE'VE MISSED THE WINDOW.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD BE A LITTLE MORE PROPORTIONAL? IS THERE ANYONE HDR DOES A REVIEW THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT WHENEVER THEY SHOOT IT OR WHERE THEY LOOK AT THE GROUND.
SOME AREAS COULD USE A LITTLE LESS, DOESN'T NEED FOUR INCHES ALL THE WAY ROUND BECAUSE IT ALREADY SITS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
BECAUSE WE NEED A LITTLE BIT LESS IN THESE PARTICULAR IS THEN MAYBE WE SAVE HOW MANY YARDS WE ACTUALLY NEED. I DON'T KNOW.
SEEMS TO ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, IF ALREADY HAVING LOW SPOTS, BUT IF WE JUST RAISED FOUR INCHES ALL WAY AROUND, DON'T WE JUST COME BACK TO THE SAME PROBLEM THAT WE MIGHT HAVE HAD?
AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, IT'S ON THE FIELD, WE'RE SLOPING OUT AND IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THE COMPLEX, THERE ARE ALREADY DRAINAGE DITCHES, IF YOU WILL, THAT ARE HELPING TO PUSH THE WATER OUT TO THE ROADWAY AND OUT TO MEDIATE FRONTAGE.
>> HAVE YOU BEEN TO LATE JACKSON.
YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH LIKE JACKSON, CORRECT?
>> JUST GOING TO BE MY OPINION AND TRY AND TALK ILL OF LATE JACKSON, BUT THEIR FIELDS MAY BE OVERLY CROWNED.
IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OUT THERE.
IT'S VERY CROWDED AND I KNOW THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY MAYBE SEVERAL YEARS AGO DOING JUST THIS PROJECT OR SIMILAR TO IT AND I'VE BEEN OUT THERE WHEN IT'S RAINED.
GET OUT TO THE CENTER OF THEIR FIELD, AND IT'S AS HARD AS IF THEY'RE PLAYING RIGHT NOW.
IT HASN'T SEEN RAIN IN 10-15 DAYS.
IT'S SO SLOPE THAT THE WATER RUNS OFF SO FAST, I GUESS IT DOESN'T STICK.
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I DON'T KNOW. I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO GO FULL LIKE JACKSON.>> SURE. WE CAN AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IN THE BID OR AS THE CITY.
IF WE GET SOME BIDS BACK AND IT'S JUST THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE WANT TO SPEND.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IF IT DOESN'T MEET WITHIN THE PARAMETERS IN WHICH MAYBE I'LL SEE YOUR CITY COUNCIL OUTLINES.
WE MAY DO THE FIELDS THAT ARE USED THE MOST.
IF WE'RE GETTING FRIEDRICH VERSUS WE DID COLLECT PRICING FOR IF WE PURCHASED AND HAD HER CALLED, MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE.
JUST THINGS TO CONSIDER. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE FIELD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND IF IT'S NOT THE FULL 145, IT'S NOT, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
>> WELL, THE OTHER THING TO ME, YOU SAID THIS WAS ONE OF FOUR, SO IF THE CITY GETS THE DIRT AND WE DON'T NEED ALL OF IT AT.
>> BG PARK THEN THE DIRT IS STILL BELONGS TO THE CITY AND THEY MOVE IT TO WHEREVER THEY WANT TO.
TO ME, THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO SUPPORT AS ABLC, DO WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE PURCHASE OF THIS DIRT?
THIS AGAIN, THE AMOUNT THAT IS REQUESTED HERE ON THE AGENDA SUMMARY WAS ONE OF THE LOWEST PROPOSALS.
WE WILL STILL GO OUT FOR BID BECAUSE WE HAD INPUT FROM OTHER CONTRACTORS THAT WERE MUCH HIGHER.
BUT IF ABLC SPECIFIES AN AMOUNT, WHETHER IT'S THIS MOUNT LOWER THEN THAT IS WHAT THE CITY WILL WORK WITH.
>> I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT WEARING A DIFFERENT HAT.
I'M USED TO TALKING ABOUT IT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER'S PERSPECTIVE.
JUST GLOBALLY SPEAKING, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD EXPLORE AND POSSIBLY DO BECAUSE AS YOU SAID OR AS YOU'VE ALREADY STATED, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF PURCHASING DIRT AND IS FAR MORE EXPENSIVE AND HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAYBE SAVE A DOLLAR. I KNOW WE'RE SPENDING MONEY.
>> BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST EXPLORE IT EVEN IF IT'S ARE SOME OF THOSE, AS YOU SAID, FLEX ADJUSTING WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY.
OR IF MAYBE WE'RE UNFORTUNATELY MS. AMY SAID AND MAYBE FOR WORKS OUT THAT PROJECT IS FULFILLED, BUT DOESN'T REALLY NEED THE 145, BUT WE HAVE LEFTOVER MAYBE THAT CAN BE UTILIZED AT A LOCATIONS.
SOUNDS LIKE OBVIOUSLY, CITY COUNCIL, I KNOW WHAT THOSE LOCATIONS ARE, BUT AS IT'S PRESENTED HERE AS WELL IN PRIORITIES, BUT THAT'S MY POSITION.
OBVIOUSLY, I WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO ABLC, THAT'S MY OTHER HAT, SO I'M TALKING ABOUT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT OVEREXTENDING OURSELVES.
>> FOR ME THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH CAN WE CONTRIBUTE? I'M HAPPY TO HELP BUY SOME DIRT, BUT PERSONALLY, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS.
ONE OF WHICH BEING THE ONE AT BATES, IS THAT A REQUIREMENT? DON'T WE HAVE TO DO ALL THE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.
>> SO THAT WOULD BE ADDED INFRASTRUCTURE AND NO, WE HAVE EXISTING ADA HANDICAP PARKING AND ACCESSIBILITY.
IT WOULD BE AN ADDITION TO WE ALREADY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY.
>> AND THEN THE LIGHTING OUT OF BG PARK.
TO ME, THE BOTTOM TO FIT MORE AND THINGS THAT I WOULD WANT TO DO, BUT IT'S HARD TO PASS UP AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY FREE DIRT, SO HOW MUCH CAN WE DONATE? THAT'S TO ME OR HOW MUCH CAN WE OR SHOULD WE AS A COMMITTEE CONTRIBUTE TO THESE PROJECTS? I GUESS IS MY QUESTION AND THAT BECOMES HARD TO ANSWER WHEN THERE'S $400,000 THAT'S MISSING.
I'M OPEN TO OTHER CONVERSATIONS.
>> I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I WILL ALSO SAY I DON'T THINK IT'S MISSING. THE MONEY IS NOT MISSING.
>> NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. I HAVE NOT BEEN IN POLITICS LONG ENOUGH.
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IT'S EITHER BEEN SPENT OR IT'S IN THERE AND JUST NEEDS TO BE TRANSFERRED BACK OVER.
>> ONE THING THAT I'LL NOTE ABOUT THIS IS THAT IF WE DO GO OUT FOR BIDS, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO ABLC IN JULY WHILE WE DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE MEETING IN JULY, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE A MEETING IN JULY SO THAT YOU HAVE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT REALLY IS REQUIRED TO MOVE FORWARD IS ANOTHER OPTION.
>> WHAT BROUGHT IT UP AT COUNCIL ON BY BRINGING AT ABLC WAS IN THE DISCUSSION, I WAS THE ONE THAT PRETTY MUCH LED THE CHARGE THAT ABLC PAY FOR IT.
IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO BUDGET FROM THE CITY SIDE.
THE GENERAL FUND IS TAPPED OUT.
IF WE WERE TO SAY FOR THE CITY TO GO DO IT, WE CAN'T DO IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PASS IT UP.
BUT WHEN WE ADD THE DISCUSSION, ABLC HAD FUND BALANCE THAT WAS WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ALL THE FUND BALANCE TO DO THIS.
THAT'S WHY THIS WAS BROUGHT UP.
THAT'S WHY I SUGGEST MOVING IT FROM TO THE ABLC BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE.
NOW, I ALSO TELL YOU I DID TALK TO DUSTIN FROM THE SOCCER ASSOCIATION.
I TALKED TO HIM YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS AND HE THINKS IT'S A GREAT SOLUTION TO FIX SOME OF THESE FIELDS.
HE DID CAUTION, SAY, HEY, AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO FIX THESE FIELDS, GOOD, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE BECAUSE ONCE IT SLOPES OFF THE FIELD, IT'S GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE.
>> HE SAYS, IF WE'RE DOING THE CROWNING OF THE FIELDS, WHILE WE'RE DOING IT, LET'S FIX THE AREAS THAT GO OUT THERE AS WELL.
THIS GETS US THE DIRT, IT DOESN'T GET US THE CROWNING OF THE FIELD OR THE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
>> WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO GET THE FIELDS DRY AND FLOOD THE ACCESS ROAD SO WE CAN GET THE FIELDS.
>> WELL, HIS BIG COMMENT AND HE'S RIGHT IS IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OUT THERE TO PLAY A GAME AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF A SOGGY TIME.
WE HAVE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE KNOW, HEY, DON'T RUN AROUND, DON'T KICK THE BALL ON THAT SIDE OF THE FIELD.
PARENTS, THEY'RE IN THE WATER.
THE DRAINAGE IS OFF ON THE SIDELINES WHERE THEY PARENTS SIT, SO THE PARENTS ARE ALWAYS COMPLAINING, WELL, WE HAVE TO GO OUT HERE AND SIT IN WATER AND MUD, TO WATCH OUR KIDS PLAY.
THAT IS AN ISSUE. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT TOO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE INVEST IN THE SOCCER COMPLEX, BG PECK, I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE LAST TIME WE REALLY PUT A SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT TOGETHER AT BG PECK.
>> WE'VE HAD SOME MINOR REPAIRS LIKE RESURFACING IN THE PAVILION, NEW PARTITIONS IN THE RESTROOM. BUT QUITE FRANKLY [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE PLAYGROUND IS THE NEWEST THING [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S TRUE.
>> IF YOU TRAVEL THE AREA, ANGLETON'S, BG PECK PARK PART IS I THINK, VERY WELL MAINTAINED.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS DIRT TO ENHANCE WHICH IN THE END, ESPECIALLY AS THE CITY'S GROWING, IT'S SOMETHING CERTAINLY TO CONSIDER, WE GET AWAY WITH.
IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, THERE'S A FEW FIELDS THAT THEY JUST DON'T SCHEDULE THINGS ON AND PARTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE UNRELIABLE, BECAUSE THEY SIT SO LOW.
HOPEFULLY AS THE CITY GROWS AND MORE KIDS ARE INVOLVED, BOYS AND GIRLS, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED THOSE FIELDS, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED THEM.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON CITY COUNCIL BRINGING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING EVENTUALLY TO WHERE PRACTICE HOURS CAN GO INTO THE EVENING HOURS OR GAMES POSSIBLY MAY BE PLAYED ON A THURSDAY OR FRIDAY NIGHT.
I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A LONG-TERM GAIN THAT WE WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE AND MAYBE WE CAN'T ADDRESS EVERY FIELD, BUT IF WE CAN EVEN ADDRESS MOST OF THE FIELDS THEN I THINK WE'LL BE IN A POSITION WHERE AGAIN, LONG-TERM IS NOT JUST A FIVE-YEAR BENEFIT, IT'S A 5, 10, 15 YEAR BENEFIT.
I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M TOTALLY TRACKING HERE AND FORGIVE ME IF I'M NOT.
IT WAS HARD TO GET HERE FROM THE AIRPORT.
LET'S SEE. MY QUESTION IS [INAUDIBLE] THE REMOVAL
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AND NOT MOVABLE [OVERLAPPING] RIGHT FIELD IS GOING TO BE THE APPROXIMATELY 50,000.>> CORRECT. NOT INCLUDING THE DOZER THAT WE WOULD NEED TO RENT TO STOCKPILE IT.
>> WITH THE OTHER PHASES, ASSUMING THOSE APPROVALS COME THROUGH, LIKE WE HOPE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, IT'S HAPPENED LIKE THEY WOULD.
WHAT WOULD WE ANTICIPATE IT WOULD COST AND THE TIMELINE TO COMPLETE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND ARE THERE FUNDS COMING ANYWHERE APART FROM ABLC TO GET IT DONE?
>> WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ONLY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WE WOULD WANT TO BE CONSIDERATE AND MINDFUL OF THE USE OF THE PARK AND SO WE DON'T YET KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE US TO TAKE THE DIRT, HIRE SOMEONE TO GO OUT THERE, GRADE SLOPE, ETC.
WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT TIMELINE ON THAT.
BUT AGAIN, I WOULD THINK IT'D BE MULTIYEAR JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE AMOUNT OF PLAYING THAT WE DO HAVE DOESN'T GIVE US A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO, IF YOU THINK THEY'VE GOT TO CUT THAT DIRT, SLOPE AND THEN HYDRO MULCH AND ALLOW THE GRASS TO COME BACK, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
>> SOCCER IS OUTSIDE MY KNOWLEDGE NOW, SO I'M TRYING TO GAUGE IT FROM YOU.
>> THAT'S WHAT HE ACTUALLY SUGGESTED.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE.
IT WOULD BE A VERY LONG-TERM PROJECT AND IF IT WERE, THAT WOULD HELP US FINANCIALLY, WHETHER IT'S ABLC, GENERAL FUND, WHOEVER, RIGHT PARKLAND AS WE GET MORE PARKLAND'S DEDICATION FEES COMING IN, THAT COULD HELP TO SUBSIDIZE THE COSTS.
>> YOU WOULDN'T SEE THE FULL FRUITION OF THIS COST BEING ASKED LATER THIS YEAR?
[OVERLAPPING] WHILE I DON'T HAVE THE COST IN FRONT OF ME, WE DO HAVE SOME ESTIMATES ON CREATING SPECIFICALLY, BUT AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET FRENCH DRAINS IN THE SPECTATOR AREA THAT GO OUT TO THE CUT DITCHES.
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF OTHER COMPONENTS THAT WE HAVE NOT EVEN GOTTEN TO YET.
THIS IS JUST SECURING. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
THIS IS SECURING THE TRANSPORT OF FREE DIRT FROM FREEDOM TO BG PECK.
WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE DIRT, WE'RE PAYING FOR THE TRANSPORT AFTER.
IT IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE IF WE PAY FOR THE DIRT AND THE TRANSPORT.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AT THIS POINT.
IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS OR QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER OUR MOTION OR IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS ITEM, WE CAN.
>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PUT OUT FOR BID AND THAT WE COME BACK IN JULY TO DO AN UPDATE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR GOING OUT FOR BID AND BRINGING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL IN JULY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR [INAUDIBLE] SAY AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSING. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
>> FIGURING OUT A TIMELINE OF THE DOZER WOULD BE NICE.
BECAUSE I AGREE WITH MR. VOLZ YOU DON'T NEED IT THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THE TRUCKS ARE RUNNING.
BUT I ALSO KNOW NO ONE'S GOING TO WANT TO TAKE THE DOZER OUT THERE AND COME BACK A WEEK LATER AND PICK IT UP, TAKE IT BACK OUT THERE.
>> SURE. THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT YOU GUYS MENTIONED THAT WE'LL TRY TO REFINE AS IT RELATES TO, IS IT FOUR INCHES ON ALL THE FIELDS? TIMELINE OF THE DIRT AND THE PILING, TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT OVERALL, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? COST OVERALL, SO WE'LL TRY TO GET YOU A LOT MORE INFORMATION EVERY TIME WE MEET ON THIS PROJECT.
YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO JUSTIN MERCADO.
HE'S NOT JUST THE PRESIDENT OUT THERE BUT HE ACTUALLY RUNS A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS.
[OVERLAPPING] HE'S INTO MAINLY KNOWLEDGE.
>> OH, SURE. WE KNOW THAT WE CAN ENGAGE HIM ON THESE ITEMS AND EVEN SEEING IF HE HAS A TRUCK THAT WE COULD UTILIZE FOR HAULING AND ASSISTANCE, SO HE IS DEFINITELY ON BOARD WITH THIS PROJECT FROM OUR KNOWLEDGE.
>> HE AND I BOTH HAVE TRACTORS WITH BOX BLADES.
>> I HEAR THAT YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING. [LAUGHTER]
>> IF I NEED TO, I WILL TAKE MY TRACTOR WITH THE BOX BLADE AND WE WILL START WORKING.
>> HE'S GOT A STRAW HAT HE BORROWED FROM CHRIS.
>> JUSTIN ACTUALLY I WOULD ASK HIM BECAUSE HE HELPED MOW KINGSFIELD YESTERDAY.
>> HE'S KIDDING. HIM SEEING HOLD DOWN TO RADIATE FRONTAGE ROADS.
>> MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6;
[6. Discussion and possible action on funding ADA accessible parking spaces and sidewalk at Bates Park.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON FUNDING ADA-ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES AND SIDEWALK AT BATES PARK.>> YEAH. ON APRIL 17TH WE DID PRESENT THIS ITEM TO ABLC FOR CONSIDERATION.
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IF YOU THINK, I DON'T KNOW.IT MIGHT'VE BEEN ONE OR TWO YEARS BACK THE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED FUNDING, THE DIRECTION WAS TO FILL IN THE DITCH AT BATES PARK, AND SO WE TRIED TO DO THAT WITH THE ALLOTMENT OF MONEY WE HAD.
I WANT TO SAY IT WAS FROM ARPA.
IT WAS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE FOR THE BOX CULVERTS SO WE WENT WITH SOME OTHER CULVERTS AND HAD IT FILLED IN.
WE WERE THEN APPROACHED BY A COUNSEL AND ALSO ANGLETON GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL HANDICAPPED PARKING AND SIDEWALKS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT GO FROM FIELDS 4 AND 5 [NOISE] BUT IT'S A PRETTY LONG TRUCK FROM THE EXISTING ADA PARKING THAT WE HAVE NEAR FIELDS 1 AND 2.
WHILE WE HAVE ADA PARKING ON-SITE, IT'S NOT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO FIELDS 3, 4, AND 5.
WHAT ABLC DID APPROVE WAS THE FUNDING OF ABOUT 26,000 OR ALMOST 27,000 TO ADD PARKING TO THIS AREA BUT WE HAD NOT YET TALKED TO THE ENGINEER AND THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE UTILIZED FOR THE CULVERTS TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD EVEN WITHSTAND PARKING IN THAT AMOUNT OF CONCRETE.
IT COULD NOT, SO WE DID GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.
HDR DID WORK WITH US ON AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION WHICH IS INCLUDED HERE.
IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT WE REMOVE THE EXISTING CULVERT, REINFORCE IT IF WE WANT TO PURSUE PARKING IN THIS AREA.
I DO HAVE THE DESIGN PROVIDED BY HDR AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WOULD BE INCLUDED FOR OPINION, A PROBABLE COST FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY ABLC, AND SO THE FUNDS TO BE REQUESTED AROUND 76,000 TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT.
BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S OVER THE 50,000 THRESHOLD, THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE BID IF ABLC DECIDES TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
>> WHERE WOULD WE ACCESS THE PARKING? LITERALLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CONCESSION STAND?
>> RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 60.
>> TO THE WEST SIDE OR TO THE EAST SIDE?
>> THERE IS A SMALL RED DASH LINE, THOSE ARE THE ASSOCIATION-MADE PARKING SPOTS TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE CONCESSION STAND.
IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER, IT SHOWS AND LABELS CONCESSION STAND.
THAT IS RIGHT THERE AT THE END OF BATES PARKING LOT.
>> AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, WHEN STAFF COMPLETED THE PROJECT, THIS WAS ONLY MEANT TO BE TO FILL IN THE DITCH AND IT'D BE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE DO HAVE EXISTING ADA ACCESSIBILITY, HOWEVER, IT IS
>> WHAT ABOUT FLIPPING IT? WHICH STREET IS ALONG, I'M SORRY.
>> WALKER. THERE YOU GO. OFF OF WALKER, THERE'S THAT TURN INTO THE PARK.
THERE'S A HOLLOW DITCH RIGHT NOW THAT HAS YET TO BE FILLED IN.
THERE IS RIGHT NOW A DUMPSTER, BUT I'M SURE YOU COULD RECONFIGURE THE DUMPSTER COLLECTION AND ADD PARKING ON THAT SIDE WHILE FILLING IN THE DITCH INSTEAD OF DIGGING UP THE OLD ONE, THE ONE WE JUST LAID.
WHY NOT RATHER FILL IN RIGHT THERE AND PUT PARKING INTO THAT AREA? I THINK THAT MIGHT WORK BETTER.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MIGHT WORK BETTER.
IT SURE BEATS IN MY OPINION THE IDEA OF DIGGING UP THE ONE WE JUST DID.
>> IN THAT WAY, WE ACTUALLY KILL TWO [OVERLAPPING]
>> TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE AND THAT OTHER SIDE NOW GETS FILLED IN THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, POTENTIALLY EVENTUALLY FILLING IN AT THAT PORTION AND NOW WE COULD ACTUALLY DO A SMALL LOT THERE THAT COULD BE MAINLY FOR
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ADA AND MAYBE SOME FIELD MAINTENANCE GUY FOR CITY OF ANGLETON TRUCK OR SOMETHING.IF WE PUT OUR BRAINS TOGETHER AND WE THINK THROUGH THIS, THERE'S A SOLUTION HERE. I BELIEVE THERE IS ONE.
>> THERE MIGHT BE ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO MENTION BECAUSE WE ARE BRAINSTORMING CONFIGURATIONS, CONSTRAINTS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD NORMALLY OCCUR IN A MASTER PLAN OF A PARK, AND WE MAY BE MOVING TOWARDS THE EXPANSION AND SOLIDIFYING ADDITIONAL PROPERTY AT THIS COMPLEX.
ONE POSSIBLE SOLUTION TOO IS BEFORE WE START IMPLEMENTING NEW PERMANENT AMENITIES, THAT YOU CONSIDER ALSO THAT THERE MIGHT BE FUTURE EXPANSION OF THIS PARK AND IF WE MASTER PLAN IT, WE CAN DECIDE WHERE THE DUMPSTER AND THE PARKING AND THE EXPANSION OF PARK AMENITIES GO.
>> MY OPINION WAS AT FIRST, I REMEMBER GETTING NEAR FULL FROM THE LADIES THAT WERE USING THEIR WALKERS OUT THERE THAT NIGHT AND HOW THEY DIDN'T HAVE A REAL EASY WAY TO GET OVER THOSE FIELDS AND HOW DANGEROUS IT WAS FOR THEM.
BECAUSE WE DID TAKE THE SIDEWALK AWAY IN A WAY BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A HARD SURFACE ALL THE WAY FROM THE ROAD OVER THERE, WE TOOK THAT OUT AND THAT WAS WHAT THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MOST.
THEN I ASKED ABOUT THE PARKING RIGHT HERE FOR ADA COMPLIANCE AND AT FIRST 26,000 SOUND OKAY; THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE.
BUT AT THIS POINT, WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED, TO ME, I AGREE WE SHOULD HOLD OFF AND I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH TRAVIS THAT WE SHOULDN'T DIG UP WHAT WE JUST PUT DOWN.
THAT'S THE CASE AND THEN JUST OUT TO ME.
BUT I WILL ASK STILL BRINGING THAT SIDEWALK BACK TO THAT ROAD.
THAT SHOULD BE A NO-BRAINER TO ME.
>> THE ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THAT WHEN YOU EXTEND A SIDEWALK, YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AN ADA-ACCESSIBLE PATH.
YOU CAN'T SHOOT A WHEELCHAIR-BOUND INDIVIDUAL INTO TRAFFIC AND SO THERE HAS TO BE AN ADA ROUTE THAT GETS THEM TO THEIR DESIGNATED LOCATION.
THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN BUT I THINK WE CAN STILL MANAGE THAT EXPECTATION EVEN IF IT MEANS MAYBE WE COME BACK WITH PRICING TO ADD ON TO WHAT WAS COMPLETED TO MAKE THAT MORE OF A HARD SURFACE.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS IN PLACE CAN WITHSTAND THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT CAN.
CAN IT HANDLE VEHICULAR? NO. WE KNOW THAT ANSWER, AND SO MAYBE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION IS A SIDEWALK.
WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS NAVIGATING SOMEONE TO A SAFE PLACE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> [INAUDIBLE] DROP OFF OF THAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW. AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH HDR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL BE MEETING ADA COMPLIANCE.
>> CAN YOU DEAD-END IT INTO GRASS?
>> BECAUSE IF YOU TOOK AN ANGLE, IT'S RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE ROAD.
>> IT'S GOING TOWARDS [LAUGHTER] THE CONCESSION STAND AND THEN JUST END IT RIGHT THERE WHERE THE ROAD TURNS.
>> FROM HDR RECOMMENDATION, IS IT A BACKEND?
>> I AGREE. I'M JUST [INAUDIBLE]
>> [OVERLAPPING] I WILL SAY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, I'D REALLY LIKE NOT TO DIG UP WHAT'S LAID. THAT WAS PROGRESS.
IF THERE'S PLENTY MORE ROOM FOR PROGRESS OUT THERE WITHOUT DIGGING UP WHAT PROGRESS HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE, IF NOT THE SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE OFF OF WALKER, WHERE THAT DITCH CURRENTLY ENDS OR WHERE THE FIELD IN PART CURRENTLY ENDS, WHY NOT CONSIDER JUST EXTENDING THAT ON? YOU POTENTIALLY COULD PUT PARKING SPACES THERE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU COULD AND IT MAY HELP THE DEMOLITION COST, BUT YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT BOX CULVERTS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] SURE, THAT'S GREAT, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE NOT TAKING AND ALWAYS DEMOLISHING AND THEN PUTTING BOX CULVERTS IT, WE'RE JUST ADDING TO IT.
>> THAT CAN BE ONE OF THE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN BRING BACK.
WE CAN LOOK AT BRINGING THAT BACK IN AUGUST.
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>> JUST SO I MEAN, JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, THE ADA PARKING HERE WAS A SOLUTION BECAUSE OF WHAT MEGAN BROUGHT UP ABOUT, PUTTING SOMEBODY OUT ON THE ROAD.
THE IDEA WAS WE WERE GOING TO PUT THE ADA PARKING SPOTS THERE AND THAT SIDEWALK WOULD JUST BE A PART OF THE PARKING AREA.
THEN WE WOULD MEET BOTH REQUIREMENTS FROM AN ADA STANDPOINT AND GIVE THE ELDERLY [OVERLAPPING] AN EASIER ACCESS TO FIELDS 3, 4, AND 5.
BUT IF YOU CAN'T PUT THE PARKING, THEN LIKE I SAID, THE CONCERN WAS THE SIDEWALK GOING TO THE ROAD SO THAT THERE WAS AN EASY WAY FOR SOMEBODY TO GET THROUGH THERE, BECAUSE IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE BY THE CONCESSION STANDS STILL ALL GRAVEL AROUND THERE, SO THAT PARKING IS ALL GRAVEL.
THE ADA PARKING SPOTS ARE CLOSER TO FIELD 2, WHICH IS AWAY FROM FIELD 3, 4, AND 5.
THEN NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS DIRT HERE, YOU'D HAVE TO TRAVERSE THROUGH ALL THAT TO GET TO THE NICE CONCRETE SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> I DON'T WANT TO KEEP GOING HERE, I'M SORRY.
BUT THE FIELD 5, THE ONE THAT WAS ADDED, WE'VE GOT THE LIGHT, SO IT'S GREAT ADDITION.
LIKE I SAID, IF WE CONSIDER EXTENDING MY FILLING IN THAT NICHE AND DOING BOSS COLORS AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY THERE, THEN WE JUST RIP OUT THAT SIDEWALK AND HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE BETWEEN WHERE WE JUST FILL IT IN AND HOPEFULLY THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS.
THEN WE CAN CREATE OUR NICE ADA COMPLIANCE SIDEWALK TO BE A PART OF THIS NEW EXTENSION.
>> WE CAN INCLUDE THAT AS ONE OPTION.
ONE THING THAT I WILL TELL YOU THAT [OVERLAPPING] HER WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN DIDN'T HAPPEN IS THAT ONCE YOU START, JUST THINK FUNCTION-WISE.
MANY OF YOU GO OUT THERE ONCE YOU ADD A PARKING LOT IN THIS AREA, AND THEN PEOPLE SEE THAT THERE'S A GRASSY FLAT AREA ADJACENT TO IT, THEY'RE GOING TO PARK IN IT.
>> IT CAN WITHSTAND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
WE WOULD DO TREE PLANTINGS OR SOME NATURAL BARRIERS THAT PREVENT PARKING IN THAT AREA, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH DRAINAGE.
>> CAN I MAKE A MOTION? CAN WE MOVE THAT WE LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS?
>> WE HAVE THE IDEA, WE JUST THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE SEVERAL POTENTIALLY VIABLE OPTIONS.
THAT'S MINE. I MOVE THAT WE COME BACK, LOOK AT OTHER VIABLE OPTIONS, AND RECONSIDER THIS IN AUGUST.
IS THAT ENOUGH TIME, IN AUGUST?
>> I'VE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE AND BRING BACK IN AUGUST WITH OPTIONS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK. MEGAN, YOU THINK THAT'S ENOUGH TIME?
>> I THINK WE CAN GET SOME PROPOSALS TOGETHER.
SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE'VE HAD COME OUT THERE [INAUDIBLE]
>> [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHY I ASK.
[OVERLAPPING] I'M THINKING MULLING AROUND THE OPTIONS THAT WE'LL BE CONSIDERING.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE FUNCTION OF THE PARK AS IT EXPANDS, REALLY MEETS THE NEED OF THE FUTURE EXPANSION.
FOR ME AGAIN, IF YOU'RE ASKING STAFF, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO TABLE THIS ALL TOGETHER AND GO OUT FOR A MASTER PLAN WHICH IS DESIGNATED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE PUSHING THE NEXT YEAR SO THAT YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF WHAT YOU WANT THIS PARK TO LOOK LIKE.
WE KNOW WHAT THE EXISTING CONSTRAINTS ARE, FUTURE EXPANSION, WHERE WE NEED TO BUILD AMENITIES TO MOVE THROUGH APPROPRIATELY.
BUT WE CAN ALSO PIECEMEAL THINGS AS WE GO IF YOU CHOOSE.
>> OH, BEFORE YOU CHANGE THAT, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
WE DO HAVE A MOTION A SECOND ON THE TABLE.
WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST WAS THE 26,000 PUTTING INTO SHADE STRUCTURES WHICH IS NEEDED REALLY BAD OUT THERE. [INAUDIBLE]
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE DO HAVE THAT AS A PARK DECISION PROJECT FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
WE JUST GOT THAT QUOTE IN TODAY AND UPDATED OUR BUDGET SOFTWARE, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR SIX SHADE STRUCTURES ABOUT, 79,000.
IT'LL AT LEAST GET YOU HOPEFULLY TWO IF NOT MORE.
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>> [INAUDIBLE] YOU SAID ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS [INAUDIBLE].
>> [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] MOTION I WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE JUST SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS THREE TIMES.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE, JUST I GUESS FURTHER DISCUSSION.
I'M OPEN TO TABLING IT AND I'M HOPING TO RE-FUNNELING THAT MONEY PERHAPS TOWARDS STAGE STRUCTURES.
THAT WOULD STILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE PARK.
>> BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENED IS WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE BUILDING TWO MORE FIELDS OUT THERE BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE THE LAND FROM SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHY I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY WOULD BE A BETTER IDEA TO TABLE.
>> LECTURES WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH THE POTENTIAL MASTER PLAN.
>> UNLESS YOU DECIDE TO MOVE THE FIELDS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] AGAIN, NOT A STAFF DECISION.
>> WHAT'S [INAUDIBLE] COST FOR THAT?
>> DOES THE MASTER PLAN EXIST NOW, OR?
>> THEN I CHANGE MY MOTION. CAN I CHANGE IT NOW?
>> I AMEND MY MOTION TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE $76 ADDITIONAL THOUSAND FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE ARE KEEPING THE $26,000 AND EARMARKING THEM TO GO TOWARD SHADE STRUCTURES.
>> SO THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT WE STILL WANT THEM TO GET THE $26,000.
>> I MADE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS AND WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THIS.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE PROJECT.
>> RACHEL, DO YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION?
>> WELL, RACHEL HAD SECONDED THE OTHER ONE SO I'M ASKING HER YOU HER TO AMEND THE MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN? MOTION CARRIES. SO WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION ON THE $26,000 FOR SHADE STRUCTURES BECAUSE IT'S NOT, HE AGENDA.
>> START PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. THANK YOU.
>> AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.
WE COULD DO IT SOONER THAN AUGUST BECAUSE WE PLAN TO COME BACK TO YOU IN JULY, AND WE ALREADY HAVE THAT PROPOSAL.
[7. Discussion and possible action on funding solar light structures and installation costs for parking lot lighting within BG Peck Soccer Complex. ]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON FUNDING SOLAR LIGHTS, STRUCTURES AND INSTALLATION COSTS FOR PARKING LOT LIGHTING WITHIN BGP SOCCER COMPLEX.>> THIS HAS BEEN ANOTHER HOT TOPIC ITEM FOR THE ASSOCIATION, HAS BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THEY ALSO MENTIONED IT TO AVLC.
THE LAST MEETING, THEY LISTED THEIR PRIORITIES AS BEING ONE OF THEM AND THIS IS REALLY TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY IN LIGHTING AT THE COMPLEX IN THE MOST ECONOMICAL WAY.
WE DID RECEIVE A PROPOSAL OF $86,400.
WE WILL HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID IF AWARDED FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT BUT ONE THING THAT WE NOTICED IN PREPARING FOR BUDGET IS WE HAVE MONEY IN ARPA FUNDS THAT WE HAVE NOT UTILIZED FOR, SPECIFICALLY PARK LIGHTING.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE A REMAINING TOTAL OF $52,924 IN ARPA ALLOCATION FOR IMPROVED LIGHTING, RESULTING IN A DEFICIT OF $32,476 TO FUND THIS PROJECT.
AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID, WE MAY GET A LOWER AMOUNT.
SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR MINIMALLY THIS AMOUNT TO COVER THE COST OF WHAT WE EXPECT FOR 12 LIGHTS INCLUDING A CONCRETE STRUCTURE TO ELEVATE THE LIGHT WITHIN THAT IMMEDIATE PARKING LOT AREA.
SO THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS THE SECONDARY PARKING LOT.
>> MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WILL THIS BE AFFECTED.
WHATEVER WE DO, WILL WE BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT OR CHANGE IT UP WHEN THE DARK COMES IN AND WE'RE DOING ALL THE REGRADING AND THE FIXING OF THE FIELD OR IS IT?
>> SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING, IS IT GOING TO BE A CONSTRAINT NAVIGATING TO THE AREAS IN THE COMPLEX OR?
>> OR IS IT GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP LIGHTING AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN DOWN WHEN WE DO THE DIRT INSIDE THE PARKING LOT.
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>> NO, IT SHOULD NOT IMPACT THE PARKING LOT.
>> TWELVE LIGHTS IN THAT PARKING LOT.
IS IT GOING AROUND THE PERIMETER AND INSIDE THE PARKING?
>> ARE WE LOSING ANY PARKING SPOTS BY DOING THIS?
>> I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT I CAN ASK.
SO WHAT YOU WOULD ENVISION IS THE CONCRETE PILING THAT YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY AT FREEDOM PARK, SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY READJUST OUR LINES AT THE PARK.
>> WHERE THE SUN GOES DOWN IT'S PITCH BLACKOUT THERE.
>> KIDS RUNNING IN THE PARKING LOT.
>> THE WAY THE FIELDS ARE LIT IN THE BACK, TO WALK FROM THE BACK TO THE PARKING LOT, YOU'RE IN COMPLETE DARKNESS. THERE'S NO LIGHT.
>> PEOPLE HAVE THEIR CELL PHONES.
>> PARENTS ARE SITTING IN THE PARKING LOTS WITH THEIR HEADLIGHTS WAITING FOR THEIR KIDS TO COME.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT ELSE COULD THE ARPA ALLOCATION THAT THE TOTAL REMAINING BE USED FOR IF NOT THIS PROJECT, WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU USE IT?
>> SO SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE LIKE THE WALL, THIS DIDN'T COME FROM ARPA, WE JUST RETROFITTED OUR FREEDOM PARKING LOT LIGHTS TO LEDS, THAT CAME OUT OF PARKLAND DEDICATION.
SO IT COULD GO TOWARDS ADDRESSING PARK LIGHTING THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR DEVELOPED PARKS.
BATES PARK IS ONE THAT'S RECEIVING AN UPGRADE SO ORIGINALLY IN THIS ACCOUNT WE HAD AROUND 57,000 AND SO WE'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF RETROFITTING THOSE TO LED LIGHTS AT BATES, SO IT'LL IMPROVE THAT PARKING LOT LIGHTING.
>> SO IS IT A GRANT SPECIFIC TO LIGHTING?
>> IT'S NOT A GRANT, IT IS ARPA FUNDS THAT WE WERE GIVEN AND CITY COUNCIL DESIGNATED WHAT THEY WANTED IT TO BE SPENT ON AND THAT DESIGNATION WAS SPECIFICALLY PARK LIGHTING.
>> THEY GAVE US CERTAIN BUDGET, BASICALLY.
>> ALLOCATED TOWARDS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
SO UNLESS CITY COUNCIL WERE TO SAY ADDRESS THIS ONE PARK LIGHTING ISSUE AND THEN UTILIZE THE REMAINING FUNDS ON X, BUT WE'D HAVE TO RECEIVE THAT DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL.
>> BUT THIS DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR LIGHTING AROUND THE PAVILION ITSELF?
WE CAN ASK STAFF, STAFF UNDERSTANDS AND AGAIN, LISTEN TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS AT THE LAST AVLC MEETING REGARDING LIGHTING FROM THE PAVILION ONTO THE FIELD.
SO JUST ON THE PAVILION, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS PROMOTING FIELDS USE WHEN NOT APPROPRIATELY LIGHTED.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER TOO FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT.
BUT AS IT RELATES TO SAFETY LIGHTING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PAVILION ITSELF, WE COULD CERTAINLY IMPROVE THAT.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY IT MADE ME THINK OF THAT THOUGHT I JUST SHARED ABOUT HAVING EXPERIENCE WITH OLDER KIDS BEING ON THE BACK TO FIELDS THAT ARE LIT, HAVING TO TRAVERSE.
THEN JUST KNOWING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOME SAFETY, IF YOU COULD PUT FOUR CORNERS OF FLOOD LIGHTS ON THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE PAVILION, IN FACT, MAYBE EVEN ANOTHER FLOODLIGHT OVER THE BATHROOM ENTRANCE WHICH WOULD MAKE FIVE LIGHTS.
MAYBE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AND IF NOT AN AVLC MAYBE IN THE CITY'S BUDGET.
>> IT COULD POTENTIALLY COME FROM ARPA TO JUST REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT SUPPORT THIS.
>> WE CAN'T DO A MOTION ACTIVATED OR MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO TIME SET ON, IF IT'S AN HOUR OR SO.
>> LIKE A PHOTOCELL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT SPECIFICALLY FOR FLOODLIGHTS, I WOULD IMAGINE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT LESS.
>> YEAH. I WOULD NOT EXPECT THEM TO BE UP.
>> SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT EITHER IN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET OR EVEN PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES SINCE THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN FULLY ALLOCATED YET WITH THE REMAINING BALANCE THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
>> I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE SAFEST THING TO DO, TO PRACTICE WITH THAT.
BUT THEY'RE PRACTICING OUT THERE ANYWAYS, AND THERE'S NO SAFETY AROUND THAT PAVILION AND LIGHTING AT NIGHT.
SO I'M NOT SAYING PUT THE LIGHTS ON FOR KIDS TO PLAY, BUT IT'S GOING TO HELP ENABLE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BE SAFE OUT THERE, SAFER THAN WHAT THEY ARE NOW.
>> SURE. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY GET SOME PRICE IN THAT.
>> I WOULD NOT ADVOCATE UTILIZING IT FOR LIGHTING FOR PRACTICE,
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BUT I DO THINK IT'S A SAFETY MEASURE THAT IS NEEDED LONG-TERM.>> AND AS FAR AS THE ITEM REGARDING THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING WITH SOLAR LIGHTS?
>> I THINK WE WERE ABOUT TO MAKE A MOTION, I BELIEVE.
>> I MOVE THAT WE ACT ON AWARDING THOSE FUNDS, THAT 33,476.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND I SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF $33,476 FOR THE SOLAR LIGHTING AROUND BGP SOCCER FIELD PARKING LOT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN? MOTION CARRIES.
>> WELL, I BELIEVE THAT TAKES US TO THE LAST ITEM, WHICH IS A ADJOURNMENT.
SO WE WILL ADJOURN AT 7:01 PM.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
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