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OKAY. I WILL CALL TO ORDER THE MONDAY, JULY 24TH MEETING.

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ALL RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A REGULAR AGENDA.

[1. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Better Living Corporation meeting of June 20, 2023.]

FIRST ITEM NUMBER ONE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ANNUAL BETTER LIVING CORPORATION MEETING OF JUNE 20TH, 2023.

I HEARD THAT WE ACCEPT THE MEETING MINUTES WE HAVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND AND A SECOND BY MS. EBY. UM.

IN FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE OUR CALL FOR A VOTE.

OKAY. WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE. ANY NOT IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OKAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. MOTION CARRIES.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO INCHES THE DISCUSSION OF THE BETTER ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION FUND BALANCE.

[2. Discussion on Angleton Better Living Corporation fund balance. ]

AND IS THAT YOU MS. MANER. OKAY, GREAT.

SO PHIL CONNOR WITH THE CITY IS GOING TO ADDRESS ABLC.

AFTER WE GET A MICROPHONE FOR HIM.

SO SERIOUS, SO QUIET UP HERE.

YEAH, I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW, I.

I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD BE TALKING AND HOSTING A SHOW.

KILLED DEAD AIR.

ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU, PHIL? AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ENDING FUND BALANCE FOR THE YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022.

THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCE WAS QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN WHAT HAD BEEN PROJECTED DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.

SO YOU ASKED ME TO GO BACK AND DO SOME RESEARCH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED.

WE STARTED THE YEAR OF 21-22 WITH $779,224 IN FUND BALANCE.

OUR REVENUES.

OUR SALES TAX REVENUE WAS $1,848,116, WHICH WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE BUDGETED AMOUNT OF $1,982,000.

INTEREST REVENUE WAS $1,300 AND WE HAD MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE OF $10,000.

AND THAT WAS A REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE ANGLETON SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION FOR SOME LIGHTS.

OKAY. EXPENSES TOTALED $447,585, WHICH WAS QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN THE BUDGETED AMOUNT OF $671,391.

SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE EXPENSES.

A DIFFERED FROM THE BUDGET.

THE WE HAD $89,816 FOR PURCHASE OF ABIGAIL ARIAS PARK.

AND WE DID NOT SPEND $400,000 IN PARK DESIGN.

BUT THE OTHER PART PROJECTS WERE OVER BUDGET BY ABOUT 355,000 TO 217,000, WHICH IS ABOUT. $118,000 OVER BUDGET.

UH, THE BIG AREA.

WHERE? THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IS IN THE TRANSFERS TO DEBT SERVICE.

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THE. IN.

IN FISCAL YEAR 2122, TWO PAYMENTS WERE MADE ON THE 2013 REFUNDING BONDS.

THE PAYMENT THAT WAS SCHEDULED OF ABOUT $184,000 THAT WAS MADE AS SCHEDULED.

HOWEVER, THERE WAS ANOTHER PAYMENT OF $163,000 THAT WAS MADE.

IT WAS MADE A YEAR EARLY.

OR ACTUALLY SIX MONTHS EARLY.

SO THAT THAT WAS NOT A PLANNED TRANSFER.

SO WE HAD TO TRANSFER THE MONEY FROM ABLC TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND AND MAKE TO COVER THAT PAYMENT.

IF YOU NOTICE. SO WE HAD A NET CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE FOR THE YEAR 400, -$467,000. ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 312,000.

IN THE CURRENT YEAR, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN FUND BALANCE OF $216,600.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT ONE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THE PAYMENT THAT WAS MADE SIX MONTHS EARLY.

THAT PAYMENT WAS BUDGETED FOR THIS CALENDAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.

SO THAT'S $167,000 THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND.

IT LOOKS LIKE SALES TAX REVENUE IS GOING TO COME IN OVER BUDGET.

I'M. I WOULD LIKE TO.

I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT THE 100,885,000 THAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE IS GOING TO BE.

CLOSE. THE OPTIMIST IN ME WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT QUITE A BIT HIGHER, BUT REALISTICALLY, I CAN'T SAY.

SO THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE AMOUNT AND I WILL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE OTHER? CAN I ASK NOW? YES, GO AHEAD.

THE OTHER PARK PROJECTS, THE ACTUAL 355 175 VERSUS THE BUDGETED AMOUNT.

WHAT WAS. SO I'LL SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT ONE OF OUR MOST RECENT REPORTS, BUT THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS ABC FUNDED.

ABC KNEW LAST YEAR THAT THEY WERE GOING OVER BUDGET, BUT THEY WERE THINGS LIKE THE FIELD FIVE LIGHTS AT BATES PARK.

UM, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT ALL WHAT THE OTHER PROJECTS WERE.

ONCE WE PULL UP, LET ME CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO THAT.

ONCE WE PULL UP THAT SPREADSHEET, WE CAN ITEMIZE WHAT THOSE WERE FOR YOU.

OKAY.

SO ON PAPER, WE POTENTIALLY ARE GOING TO BE SITTING IN A BETTER POSITION ENTERING THE NEW.

FISCAL YEAR THAN WE WERE AT THE END OF THE 2122 GOING INTO THE 2223? YES, SIR. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW TO DATE, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE IN THE FUND BALANCE? I MEAN, AS OF TODAY, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE THAT AMOUNT WITH ME, BUT IT'LL BE ACCORDING TO BASICALLY WHAT WE SEE HERE IS WHAT'S THE PROJECTIONS AND WHAT WE HAD LAST. YEAH, IT WILL BE.

I WOULDN'T HAZARD A GUESS.

I'D BE WRONG IF I TOLD YOU SOMETHING.

SO I CAN GET THAT TO YOU AND WE'LL EMAIL IT OUT TO Y'ALL.

I THINK FOR ME, I'D LIKE TO COME BACK AND WHEN WE HAVE REAL NUMBERS.

WHENEVER THAT IS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU ALL GET THAT NOVEMBERISH.

YEAH. OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD. I MEAN, I DON'T MIND AN EMAIL TO GET WHERE WE ARE PRESENTLY, BUT TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

OKAY. WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN PRETTY DISCIPLINED.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT OVEREXTENDING OURSELVES.

YEAH, ALL THE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE SO WE CAN ALL ADD UP AND GOOD EXPLANATION ON THE PROJECTS.

WHAT'S IT, WHAT'S THE TRANSFER TO LAKESIDE CAP.

BUDGETED AMOUNT.

I MEAN, IT'S 39, THE 39.

YEAH. SO THAT WAS FOR THE REMAINING BALANCE FOR THE PILINGS THAT WAS APPROVED.

SO WHEN WE WERE OVER BUDGET FOR THE PILINGS, ABLAK PITCHED IN AND WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT AT THAT TIME AT WHICH IT WAS APPROVED THAT IT WAS PROPERLY BUDGETED BECAUSE IT FLOWED INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

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RIGHT? JUST SO.

THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT SERIES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO 2013.

SO ARE WE SAYING THAT? THAT DOUBLE PAYMENT THIS YEAR EXTINGUISHED THE BALANCE.

THERE'S NO MORE BALANCE ON THAT 2013 2013 BUDGET.

YEAH, THAT THAT WAS PAID OFF AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 22.

APPRECIATE YOU GOING BACK AND DOING ALL THAT RECOUNTING FOR US.

SURE.

SORRY, GUYS. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK ON GETTING FROM A PAST AGENDA WHAT FINANCE HAD DONE PER THE REQUEST OF MS..

ROGERS WAS ITEMIZED THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED.

AND SO YOU STARTED SEEING THOSE IN YOUR PACKETS FOR YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH PAST AGENDAS TO FIND THAT FOR YOU.

SO MY APOLOGIES.

WILL. DO WE HAVE ANY SCHEDULED DEBT? UM, AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO THE 2324 THAT WE KNOW IS DUE.

YES. SO IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE.

EIGHT OF YOUR PACKET.

THERE YOU'LL SEE THE DEBT SCHEDULE OF WHAT WE HAVE UP UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 3940.

OKAY. AND SO THAT LAST COLUMN ON THAT, THE TOTAL IN YOUR PACKET, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED THAT'S JUST SHOWING YOU THAT'S WHAT WAS BUDGETED THIS FISCAL YEAR.

SO NEXT FISCAL YEAR WE HAVE BUDGETED AND YOU SEE IT IN YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENTS $428,848 FOR OUR DEBT PAYMENT.

NOW. AND DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ON THIS? THERE'S NO ACTION THAT YOU ALL NEED TO TAKE ON THIS.

THIS WAS A REQUEST AT THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE NEXT TWO ITEMS AND SO ON.

RIGHT? WHAT THE RIGHT BALANCE WAS.

AND I WAS ABLE TO PULL UP ONE OF THE PACKETS.

LIKE I MENTIONED, THE SOFTBALL FIELD LIGHTING WAS 169.9.

WE DID ALSO HAVE.

DOWNING TENNIS COURTS, WHICH WE'RE COUNTING THAT AS MONEY SPENT.

BUT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AN OVER EXPENDITURE LAST YEAR BECAUSE THAT MONEY HAS NOT BEEN SPENT TO DATE.

CHELSEA PAID $85,000 FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION STANDARDS MANUAL.

WE HIRED KIMLEY-HORN TO EXECUTE THAT.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS FOR WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND THEY'RE PROPOSING A PARK PLAN, WE SAY, THAT'S GREAT, WE LOVE THAT.

HERE'S OUR STANDARDS THAT YOU MUST BUILD BY.

SO THAT HAS BEEN A GREAT TOOL.

AND THEN IT ALSO PAID FOR $100,000 FOR THE ADA SELF EVALUATION TRANSITION PLAN.

SO THAT ALONE ACTUALLY, IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT, IF YOU TAKE THE $30,000 THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR DOWN IN TENNIS COURTS, THAT WOULD BE 354,900. BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO USE THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES.

AND THAT WILL COME OUT OF THIS YEAR'S.

A PROJECT YOUR ABLAK CONTINGENCY LINE.

AND SO THAT TRACKS VERY WELL WITH WHAT PHIL'S PRESENTED HERE.

UH, WITH RESPECT TO OUR EXPENDITURES LAST YEAR.

I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER TO SAY.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO. AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE DETAIL.

YEAH. ANOTHER THING I ASK IS, BILL, IF YOU GET SOME REAL NUMBERS, WE'D LOVE TO LOOK AT THEM.

AND THEN AT SOME POINT, ONE OF OUR MEETING CLOSEST TO THE FINAL NUMBERS COME IN.

YOU KNOW, JUST MAYBE MAKE THAT AN AGENDA ITEM JUST SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REAL NUMBERS.

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ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO FUND SHADE STRUCTURES OVER FIELDS THREE, FOUR AND FIVE.

[3. Discussion and possible action to fund shade structures over fields three, four, and five bleacher seating at Bates Park.]

BLEACHER SEATING AT BATES PARK.

YES. SO THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS KIND OF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS TABLED.

AND THE DIRECTION WAS TO CREATE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR OUR NEXT MEETING REGARDING SHADE STRUCTURES FOR BATES PARK.

WE HAVE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING IN JANUARY FOR ABLC, WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF THESE PARK IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THIS.

AND SO AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, JUNE 20TH STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO BRING A PROPOSAL BACK.

WE'VE INCLUDED THAT NUMBER IN YOUR PACKET ALONG WITH THE THE PLC CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM, WHICH IS 4506 520, WHICH IS TYPICALLY USED FOR PROJECTS JUST LIKE THIS.

I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT ON PAGE 13 YOU HAVE AN ITEMIZED SCHEDULE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SPENT TO DATE AND WHAT WAS BUDGETED OVERALL.

OVERALL, YOU WERE BUDGETED THIS FISCAL YEAR OF ABOUT, WHAT WAS IT, 160,000 TRYING TO FIND IT ON MY SHEET HERE.

RIGHT OVER 100.

YES, $160,099 RIGHT NOW.

NOT INCLUDING THE TEXT, NOT THE TABLE ITEM OR PENDING ITEMS HERE IN THIS CHART, YOU HAVE SPENT A NOT TO DATE.

THESE ARE ONES YOU'VE COMMITTED TO, THOUGH, THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

YOU'VE COMMITTED $144,427.

SO. YOU'LL SEE THAT THE REQUESTED AMOUNT DOES NOT FIT WITH WHAT IS BUDGETED IN THE ABLC CONTINGENCY.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR IF THIS ITEM IS APPROVED OR EVEN PORTIONS OF THIS ITEM IS APPROVED, YOU WOULD BE HITTING YOUR FUND BALANCE.

SO, SO SO THE THE AMOUNT FOR THIS IS 80,148.

IT IS. AND THAT INCLUDES THE ENGINEER DRAWINGS AND IT INCLUDES THE SHADE COVERINGS FOR THOSE THREE FIELDS.

SO THOSE IT'S A TOTAL OF SIX SHADE STRUCTURES.

OKAY. SO IT'S LIKE 14,000 RIGHT STRUCTURE PLUS THE DRAWINGS.

CORRECT. IF YOU JUST WANTED TO DO ONE SET, WE'D HAVE TO GET THE DRAWINGS IN PLACE FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO PULL THE PERMIT AND CONSTRUCT THEM. SO EVEN ONE FIELD WOULD BE ABOUT $15,108.

SO I GUESS IN THE LAST MEETING IT WAS DECIDED PRETTY MUCH THAT WE NEED FOR EACH OF THOSE THREE FIELDS.

I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS TO BE EXPLORED.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DECIDED TO GET A TOTAL BALANCE.

SO WE KNEW WHERE WE SAT.

BEING OUT THERE FREQUENTLY.

I WOULD BE OKAY WITH A STAIR STEPPED IMPLEMENTATION.

I THINK IT FIELDS THREE AND FOUR THAT ARE PROBABLY THE MOST OPEN AND MOST EXPOSED TO THE SUN OUT THERE.

FIVE IS SOMEWHAT SHADED ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

I THINK THERE'S A NICE PECAN TREE, BUT.

UM, IF IF THERE WAS MAYBE AN ATTEMPT TO SAVE A LITTLE MONEY WOULD JUST BE TO FOCUS ON MY OPINION, TO FOCUS ON FIELDS THREE AND FOUR.

YEAH. I GUESS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST PUTTING ALL THREE FIELDS, WHICH ARE SIX SHADES AND IT'S TAKEN THE 80,000.

WHAT THAT DOES TO OUR CONTINGENCY.

RIGHT? AND IT'S LIKE, DO WE WANT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DEPLETED CONTINGENCY GOING FORWARD? WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, POP UP.

RIGHT. AND SOME OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER BECAUSE WE HAVE WE DO HAVE ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE, WHICH IS OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION FUND.

WHILE WE HAVE DECREASED THAT SUBSTANTIALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY APPROVED THAT WE WORK ON ADA TRANSITION ITEMS SPECIFICALLY FOR PARKS THAT WILL REBUILD.

WE DO HAVE FUNDS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO HIT THAT PARKLAND DEDICATION ACCOUNT AND THESE ARE PERFECT PROJECTS TO PURSUE RELATED TO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN'T USE THOSE FUNDS FOR.

FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WANTED TO PURSUE ABLC, WANTED TO PURSUE THE MASTER PLAN FOR BATES AND DICKEY, ABLC COULD DO THAT.

BUT PARKLAND DEDICATION FUNDS COULD NOT BE UTILIZED FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND FEES AND PLANS LIKE THAT.

IT'S ONLY FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.

IF IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROJECTS, WE MAY IN THE NEAR FUTURE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS THROUGH PARKLAND DEDICATION.

IT JUST YOU COULDN'T NECESSARILY PURSUE IT RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE CONTINGENCY FUND.

IT'S LIKE, HAVE WE EVER BEEN THIS LOW ON OUR CONTINGENCY FUND IN MY FIVE YEARS HERE? WE HAVE NOT. AND I DO KNOW, THOUGH, I SAY THAT, BUT WHEN WE WERE HIGH, IT WAS A WE'VE GOT A GREAT DEAL OF FUND

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BALANCE. THESE ARE SOME THESE ARE DOLLARS OR FUNDS THAT WE COULD BE UTILIZING FOR THESE PARK RECREATION AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE STARTED PURSUING SO MANY PROJECTS AND ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE ITEMS. BUT REALLY, ABLC NEEDS TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, SITTING AT BECAUSE OF SOMETHING, FOR EXAMPLE, COMES UP WITH THE REC CENTER AND IT BREAKS AND WE'RE LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD.

AND PLUS, IF WE HAVE A WAY TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SORT OF SAVE SOME OF OUR CONTINGENCY AND LIKE YOU SAY, LATER ON, MAYBE PARKLAND CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT, THEN IT GIVES US MORE. BE MORE NIMBLE SO WE CAN DO OTHER THINGS RIGHT? SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT TRYING TO SAVE AS MUCH CONTINGENCY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN IN HOPES OF PARKLAND CAN HELP OUT LATER ON WITH OTHER THINGS? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

I WOULD.

CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE THE IDEA OF.

PUTTING SHADE STRUCTURES OUT AT BATES.

OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE AT FREEDOM, SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE MATCHING SHADE STRUCTURES, HOWEVER THE IDEA OF I MEAN, THIS EXACT SCENARIO THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING, WHICH WOULD BE THE IF SOMETHING WERE TO POP UP THAT COULD BE REALLY COST PROHIBITIVE.

YEAH. I'D HATE TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN'T ADJUST.

SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH.

PERHAPS PURSUING.

I DON'T KNOW IF PARKLAND DEDICATION IS THE RIGHT SOURCE FOR THIS ONE.

I MEAN, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SHADE OUT THERE FOR THOSE FIELDS BECAUSE IT GETS HOT AND IT'S LIKE TO BE OUT IN THE STANDS.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH THE GUYS.

FOR THE GIRLS, I THINK IT WOULD BE NEAT TO HAVE THAT, BUT.

YEAH, IT'S 100 PLUS DEGREES HERE.

I'M TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH TRYING TO PURSUE THOSE OTHER OPTIONS, LIKE YOU SAID.

AND. YOU KNOW.

I JUST THINK IT MIGHT BE THE SMART THING TO DO.

YEAH, WE WANT THOSE.

JUST WANTED THE BEST WAY TO GET THEM.

YEAH, RIGHT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

WHILE CITY COUNCIL DID RECENTLY APPROVE THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE ARE AT $0 WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION.

SO WE CAN SEE WITH THAT REMAINING DIFFERENCE IS AND, AND IF THE DIRECTION FROM ABLC IS TO PURSUE IT WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION, THEN WE CAN GO TO COUNCIL AND AND BRING THE SAME ITEM. AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE COFFERS GET REFILLED AT A LATER TIME, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT COULD BE PRESENTED SOMETIME LATER.

BUT DURING THIS SAME FISCAL YEAR, THE 23-24 YEAR.

RIGHT. SO YEAH, BECAUSE I GUESS SOMETHING COMING UP NEXT ON THE AGENDA.

I GUESS ONCE WE DISCUSS THAT, THAT CAN SORT OF LIKE BRING US BACK TO THE BLEACHER SECTION.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

WELL, AND AND THE NEXT ITEM IS A ONE TIME.

CORRECT.

IT'S A GOOD WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. OPPORTUNITY MAY NOT PRESENT ITSELF AT A LATER TIME.

ABSOLUTELY. OR IF IT.

WE KNOW THAT TO BUY THAT THAT SOIL IS GOING TO COST TWICE.

TEN TIMES AS MUCH.

YEAH. SO IF WE TAKE THE WEIGHT ON THE PARK LAND POSSIBLY TO ENABLE US TO GET THE BLEACHER SHADE.

I THINK WE WILL.

I THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS WHETHER WE SHOULD COME BACK AND WE WILL JUST TAKE CARE OF IT OURSELVES BECAUSE WE WANT THOSE.

RIGHT? AGREE.

SO IT IS. I'M SORRY.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT'S A PROJECT YOU WANT ABLC TO PURSUE OR.

IN THE EVENT THAT PARK LAND DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDS OR RESOURCES, COME BACK LATER.

COME BACK FOR US BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SHADES ARE THERE.

WE JUST WANT TO SEE. WE JUST DON'T WANT TO DEPLETE OUR FUNDS.

I UNDERSTAND. AND SO WHAT WE'LL DO AND WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS IN THE OCTOBER MEETING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIMILAR PUBLIC HEARING LIKE WE DID FOR THIS YEAR IN JANUARY WHILE IT WAS IN JANUARY.

IT WILL OCCUR IN OCTOBER.

THIS YEAR IT WILL BE VERY SIMILAR AND WE'LL REVIEW AND ENCOMPASS ANY PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO WHILE THEY WON'T NECESSARILY BE DEDICATED AT THAT TIME, IT'LL OPEN IT UP FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION STARTING IN OCTOBER.

OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S PRUDENT BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S HOT NOW.

THE SHADE STRUCTURES AREN'T GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE IMMEDIATE.

SO YEAH, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.

IT IS SOMETHING TO WE CERTAINLY HAVE TIME TO.

YEAH, I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT APRIL TO LOOK AT OPTIONS, RIGHT? OKAY. SO WE HAVE UNTIL APRIL, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT FROM THE HEAT STRUCTURE FROM SHADE TO.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO GET US WARMEST IN APRIL AND MAY, AND I THINK YOU'D BE FINE IF WE CAN LOOK AT IT AT A LATER TIME IN JUNE IS WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR BIG TOURNAMENT.

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RIGHT. SO IF WE CAN HAVE.

SURE. SO AGAIN. SO WE CAN STILL HAVE IT BEFORE JUNE.

YEAH. SO AND YOU'LL PROBABLY REALISTICALLY SEE THAT MORE SO AROUND JANUARY, JUST SO WE CAN GET THE DRAWINGS AND THE MATERIAL COMES IN BY THE CONTRACTOR AND WE SCHEDULE INSTALLATION AND SO YOU CAN EXPECT PLANNING AHEAD.

YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WE CAN HAVE SOME HAPPY PLAYERS OUT THERE.

THAT'S RIGHT. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

A HAPPY PARENTS. YES.

YEAH. HAPPY SUPPORTERS.

ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS FUNDING SHADE STRUCTURES OVER FIELDS THREE, FOUR AND FIVE BEFORE WE CLOSE? I. THAT'S JUST GUIDANCE, RIGHT? NO ACTION ITEM, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE FUNDING FROM ABLC FUND BALANCE TO HAUL CLAY SAND, EARTHEN COVER

[4. Discussion and possible action to approve funding from ABLC fund balance to haul clay, sand, earthen cover materials from Freedom Park to BG Peck Soccer Complex and stockpile it in a designated area to be determined by city officials. ]

MATERIALS FROM FREEDOM PARK TO BC PECK SOCCER COMPLEX AND STOCKPILE IT IN A DESIGNATED AREA TO BE DETERMINED BY CITY OFFICIALS.

YES. SO WE DID GO OUT TO BID FOR THIS ITEM.

WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS.

THIS IS ALL IN YOUR PACKET HERE.

THE BID TABULATION IS ON PAGE 40.

YOU ALSO HAVE THE FULL PACKET IF YOU WANTED TO REVIEW THAT, SAW WHAT WE REQUESTED OR WHAT WAS IN THE SCOPE OF WORK.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AT THIS TIME AS WELL.

BUT WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THIS MATERIAL FROM THE NORTHERN TRACK OF FREEDOM PARK AND HAUL IT TO BC PECK SOCCER COMPLEX WITH THE HELP OF A CONTRACTOR.

SO THE LOWEST BIDDER IS WE DO HAVE NEWBY ENTERPRISE AND THEY ARE REPRESENTED HERE THIS EVENING.

CHAD AND SARAH ARE HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

THEY ARE A LOCAL COMPANY AND I WILL OPEN IT UP TO YOU ALL FOR QUESTIONS WITH ONE OTHER NOTE.

AS WE JUST ALLUDED TO IN THE LAST AGENDA ITEM, THIS FUND REQUEST WILL.

TAKE US INTO OUR FUND BALANCE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE ALREADY COMMITTED AT JUST OVER $144,000 AND WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 160 BUDGETED IN ABLC CONTINGENCY. OKAY.

LET'S OPEN IT TO ANY DISCUSSION.

COMMENTS. YEAH, I HAVE A COMMENT.

YES. QUESTION.

WHERE IT SAYS IN THE DESIGNATED AREA TO BE DETERMINED BY CITY OFFICIALS.

THAT'S LIKE. THAT IS ALMOST LIKE IF WE'RE PUTTING THE MONEY UP TO DO THIS, THE ABLC, I WONDER, WE WOULD HAVE A LOT TO SAY ON WHAT'S DONE LATER ON AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY OFFICIALS, WHICH MEANS IS THAT MAYBE THEY COULD PUT MORE SKIN IN THE GAME THAN JUST THE ABLC.

I'M JUST OPENING THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

AND REALLY WE USE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE REQUEST FOR BID PACKET JUST SO THAT WE WEREN'T NAMING A PERSON, BUT THAT WOULD REALLY BE DESIGNATED AND WAS DESIGNATED IN THE PACKET OF THE DROP OFF LOCATION WHICH IS AT THE PARK.

AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE REFERRING TO IN THAT IS THAT WHEN IT GETS HAULED, THEY WILL THE CONTRACTORS ARE EXPECTED TO USE A DOZER TO PILE IT UP IN THE DESIGNATED AREA, WHICH WE INCLUDED AS A MAP, AS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE REQUEST FOR BIDS.

OKAY. SO MY RECOLLECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS THAT WE HAD A COUPLE CONCERNS.

ONE, THEY JUST PAVED THAT BACK ROAD, RIGHT? AND SO WE WERE WORRIED THAT TRACTORS AND TRAILERS MAY BE HAULING ON THERE AND JUST DAMAGED WHAT THE COUNTY HAD JUST LAID.

THE OTHER IDEA WAS, I THINK, ON NOT DESIGNATING A PARTICULAR AREA JUST YET BECAUSE OF THE IMPENDING SOCCER SEASON, WHICH IS COMING UP, THAT WE COULDN'T POSSIBLY GET THE SOIL ONTO THE GROUND AND HAVE GRASS GROW BEFORE THE FIRST GAME WERE PLAYED IN SEPTEMBER, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY RAIN RECENTLY, WHICH WASN'T REALLY HELPING.

SO WE PUT IT STOCKPILE IT OR PLACE IT IN A PLACE THAT I GUESS ASSUMING ONCE THE SEASON IS COMPLETE, WE'D COME BACK AND LET THE AND THAT'S BUT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON PREMISES AT THE BC PECK.

IT'S NOT TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IT'S TO BE ON PREMISES.

RIGHT. BUT JUST TO HOPEFULLY ONE NOT DESTROY THAT ROAD AND TO, YOU KNOW, JUST IN A PLACE THAT COULD BE ACCESSED AT A LATER TIME.

OKAY. SO IT WILL BE USED FOR.

ABSOLUTELY. YES, IT'LL BE THERE.

IT'S TO BE. YES.

OKAY. TO BE THERE.

IT'S JUST THAT. I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BROAD ON PURPOSE BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE DETAILS.

I THINK THE LAST PARK MEETING WE HAD, THEY TALKED ABOUT THEM SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT.

IT WAS GOING TO HELP WITH THE PITCH SO THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY GET SOME TRAINING THERE.

YOU WOULD USE IT FOR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY NEED AT THE COMPLEX.

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BUT I REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED, IT WAS LIKE, HOW DO WE GET THAT FROM THERE TO THERE? AND THIS IS WHERE THEY I'M ASSUMING THIS IS WHERE THEY WOULD COME INTO PLAY AND BE ABLE TO MOVE IT FROM PLACE TO PLACE, RIGHT? AND IN THE CUBIC YARDS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING ARE BASED ON THE DESIGN THAT HDR CITY ENGINEER HAS PROVIDED US FOR ALL OF THE FIELDS TO BE RAISED AND SLOPED, I BELIEVE RAISED AT LEAST I THINK IT WAS FOUR INCHES AND SLOPED.

AND SO I'M SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT TRAVIS TOO, BECAUSE I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR HAULING AND STOCKPILING.

THIS IS NOT INCLUDE THE ACTUAL DOING OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HAULING, RELOCATING TO A FIELD, GRADING, RAISING IRRIGATION, ADDING SOD OR HYDRO SEED OR SO THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT WILL BE GOING INTO THIS PROJECT.

BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE FREE DIRT, I DID PRINT OFF ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WE HAD SPECIFICALLY FOR BC PECK.

IF WE DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST TO PURCHASE THE DIRT, IT WOULD ALMOST DOUBLE IN COST.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE THREE PROPOSALS, YOU'RE ALMOST DOUBLING WHAT THEY'RE OFFER, WHAT THEIR BID WAS VERSUS THE OTHER TWO COMPANIES.

THIS IS REALLY LIKE PHASE 0.5 OF WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AT THE SOCCER.

LIKE IF WE'RE BEING HONEST, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THE FIRST PHASE IS WE NEED TO GET THE DIRT THERE, RIGHT.

AND THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE BIG CONVERSATION WE HAD AT THE LAST PARK WHENEVER THEY WERE THERE.

SO IF WE CAN GET THE DIRT, THEN WE CAN START LOOKING AT HOW DO WE HOW DO WE GET EVERYTHING TO WHERE THE FIELDS AREN'T SOLVED AND NASTY EVERY TIME IT RAINS? RIGHT? AND WE ALSO HAVE TO RECUT THE EXISTING DRAINAGE CULVERTS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S GOING OUT TO HIGHWAY 288 FRONTAGE. SO THERE IS QUITE A FEW OTHER STEPS THAT WE'VE GOT.

SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A FORMALITY.

WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DONE THEN, RIGHT.

YEAH. AGREE.

I THINK, YEAH, TIME IS CORRECT.

THIS IS A MULTI STEP PROCESS.

ACQUIRING THE DIRT IS MUCH COST SAVINGS AS WE CAN IS A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. SO MANY STEPS.

YEAH. AND 14,000 CUBIC FEET.

OF DIRT GIVEN TO US RIGHT NOW HAVING TO PURCHASE IT.

I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO.

TAKE LIGHTLY AS AN OPPORTUNITY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL, THOUGH.

LOOKING AT THE BIDS, YOURS IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE AFFORDABLE THAN THE OTHERS.

WHAT DO YOU DO? I MEAN, HOW HOW WILL YOU TRANSPORT THAT? AND IN TERMS OF WHAT TRAVIS SAID ABOUT THE ROAD, THE ROAD I RECEIVED AN ADDENDUM ON THAT WE WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR FROM STUART.

WE USE DUMP TRUCKS TO HAUL IT.

IT'S NOT THAT LARGE OF A PROJECT.

THE NUMBERS I SAW.

RIGHT. I'M GOING TO TAKE SEVEN TRUCKS AND WE'LL HAUL 2000 YARDS A DAY.

AND WE CAN STOP BY 2000 YARDS A DAY WITH ONE DOZER.

WE'VE DONE IT. MULTIPLE TIMES AND MULTIPLE PLACES.

I THINK SHE CALLED BWA.

WE HAD A LITTLE OVER 300,000 YARDS FOR THEM OVER THERE.

GEEZ, YOU KNOW IT'S NOT.

I WAS REALLY THINKING, WHAT DID I LEAVE ON THE TABLE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BIDS MYSELF? YEAH, I'M HONEST.

I WENT BACK AND REVIEWED IT MULTIPLE TIMES.

IT'S JUST NOT THAT COMPLICATED.

YEAH, IT'S 4.4 MILE HAUL.

ONE TRUCK COULD DO 24-25 LOADS A DAY.

AND SO HOW MANY HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT'LL TAKE? 15 WORKING DAYS.

I REALLY HONESTLY THINK IT WILL TAKE NINE.

I GAVE MYSELF FOUR.

YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S COOL.

IT'S GOOD TO ME. AND HE I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN DOING IT.

I MEAN, PRIMARILY YOU'D BE ON THE LOOP, TOO.

YEAH. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO INTERRUPT WITH THE TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING? DOING IT THAT WAY. THE FACT THAT AT ALL.

THE ONLY, ONLY THING THAT MIGHT SLOW IT DOWN WOULD BE BELOW 2000 YARDS A DAY WOULD BE THEM LOADING THE MATERIAL.

I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT BECAUSE NONE OF THE CONTRACTORS ARE GOING TO LOAD IT RIGHT? OKAY. I HAVE A SOFT SPOT FOR MUNICIPALITIES ANYWAY, SO I APPRECIATE IT.

AMEN. THANK YOU.

AND TO CLARIFY ON THE ADDENDUM, WE WERE ASKED WE HAD AN RFI FOR THE BID POSTING REQUEST FOR INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THAT

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IN THE BID PACKET. WE DID SAY THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO CITY PROPERTY.

AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS DOES THIS INCLUDE THE ROADS LIKELY BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN SOME DAMAGE HERE RECENTLY WITH SOME OTHER PROJECTS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

AND SO I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN FOR CONTRACTORS.

I SPOKE TO CHRIS WHITAKER REGARDING HOW HE WANTED ME TO RESPOND TO THE BIDDERS AND THE DIRECTION WAS THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROAD DAMAGE.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A CONCERN WHEN WE START MOVING IT DEEPER INTO THE COMPLEX, YOU KNOW? UM, SO I'M NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT THAT JUST YET.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AGAIN, WE DISCUSSED EITHER HERE AT ABLC OR CITY COUNCIL AND THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT CHRIS GAVE THAT DIRECTION IS WE DO INTEND TO TRY TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATE ROUTES THAT REALLY TAKE OUR CONTRACTORS OFF THOSE ROADS.

WE HAVE NOT SOLIDIFIED THAT TO DATE, BUT WE AIM TO PURSUE SOME OTHER OPTIONS, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

523 SHOULD BE.

JUST TO DISTRIBUTE. YEAH.

SO. YEAH.

I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION.

YEAH, I SECOND.

OKAY. SO CAN WE GET WHAT THE MOTION IS FIRST? I'M LOOKING FOR MY WORDING.

I'M IN THE BIDS STILL. I SECOND THAT MOTION.

PREEMPTIVELY. WE HAVE A SECOND.

I WILL PREEMPTIVELY. AND SO, ELLEN, WHAT YOU MAY DO IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATION ON PAGE 15, THAT'S WHERE I'M HEADING.

I'M ON 16. OKAY.

OKAY. SO I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE FUNDING FROM OUR FUND BALANCE TO HIRE QUALIFIED AND PROPERLY EQUIPPED CONTRACTOR TO HAUL CITY CLAY SAND.

DO WE NEED TO SPECIFICALLY NAME WHO WE'RE DOING? I WOULD COVER MATERIALS FROM FREEDOM PARK TO BC PECK SOCCER COMPLEX AND STOCKPILE IT IN THE DESIGNATED AREA DETERMINED BY CITY OFFICIALS.

AND SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL FROM SWEENEY AND I'M LOOKING FOR YOUR.

NEWBY ENTERPRISE. THANK YOU, NEWBIE ENTERPRISE.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND OF THAT COMPLETE MOTION.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE CALL FOR A VOTE? ALL RIGHT. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OKAY.

THE AYES CARRY.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S THE END OF OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU.

SO WHEN DO YOU ALL GET STARTED?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.