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ALL RIGHT. USING PARKLAND VACATIONS FOR US OR FOR TIME IS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER FORM PRESENT.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

PLEASE STAND UP AND FOLLOW US IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

AND THEN. COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

YES.

WOULD YOU BOW WITH ME, PLEASE? FATHER, AGAIN, WE COME TO YOU THANKING YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS.

YOUR GRACE, FATHER, YOUR MERCY, YOUR LOVING KINDNESS.

THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY.

THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE HERE IN THE CITY.

STAFF, POLICE FORCE, FIREFIGHTERS, EMS, FATHER, ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY PART IN THIS CITY, I THANK YOU FOR THEM AND AND ASK YOU TO PROTECT THEM AND WATCH OVER THEM.

WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE TONIGHT, DECISIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, BY THE WAY WE HELP GIVE US THE WISDOM TO TO BE HONORABLE TO YOU AND TO OUR FELLOW FELLOW CITIZENS.

LORD, WE THANK YOU AGAIN IN CHRIST'S NAME.

AMEN. AMEN. AMEN.

AMEN. SO, YEAH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT.

THAT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL THESE FACES.

AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND WE DID LOSE SOMEBODY WHO WAS A FORMER STAFF MEMBER OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

WALTER REEVES RECENTLY PASSED AWAY.

HE WAS OUR DIRECTOR.

AND. UP TO.

MOVING ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

THE NUMBER ONE PRESENTATION OF AN EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARD.

[1. Presentation of an Employee Service Award.]

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. COUNCIL.

I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE TONIGHT OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, MEGAN MAYNOR, WHO HAS SERVED THE CITY WELL FOR FIVE YEARS.

SO IF MEGAN WILL COME UP.

GREAT. YOU DIDN'T TAKE A PICTURE WITH HER.

BE FIVE YEARS.

YOU.

YEAH, THAT.

OH, I DO. I DO.

I'VE NOTICED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DON'T GO FAR. OKAY, WELL.

OH. OH, YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

SECOND ITEM IS THE PRESENTATION OF THE PARKS RECREATION MONTH PROCLAMATION.

[2. Presentation of the Parks and Recreation Month Proclamation.]

LONG. THERE.

PROCLAMATION FROM SEEING ANGLETON, TEXAS.

WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, INCLUDING ANGLETON, TEXAS.

WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES HEALTH AND WELLNESS, IMPROVING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR PARKS.

WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES PUNISHMENT NATURE, WHICH POSITIVELY IMPACTS MENTAL HEALTH BY INCREASING COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE AND WELL-BEING, ALLEVIATING ILLNESSES SUCH AS DEPRESSION, ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDERS AND ALZHEIMER'S.

WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION ENCOURAGES PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES BY PROVIDING SPACE FOR POPULAR SPORTS, HIKING TRAILS, SWIMMING POOLS AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES DESIGNATED TO PROMOTE ACTIVE LIFESTYLES.

AND. WHEREAS. PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMING AND EDUCATION.

SUCH AS OUT-OF-SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMING, YOUTH SPORTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION ARE CRITICAL TO CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT.

WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION INCREASES THE COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL TAX BASE.

INCREASE TOURISM, THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES AND CRIME REDUCTION.

WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS FUNDAMENTAL TO ENVIRONMENTAL WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS ESSENTIAL AND ADAPTABLE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITIES RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF NATURAL DISASTERS AND CLIMATE CHANGE.

WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE THE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS.

WHEREAS THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION.

AND. WHEREAS, ANGLETON TEXAS RECOGNIZES THE BENEFITS DERIVED FROM PARKS AND RECREATION RESOURCES.

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NOW. THEREFORE, I JOHN WRIGHT MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT THE MONTH OF JULY IS RECOGNIZED AS PARKS AND RECREATION. PROCLAIM THIS 25TH DAY OF JULY 2023.

ALL RIGHT. CAN WE TAKE A BREAK? THAT WAS AWFUL LONG. HAVE A LOT OF BENEFITS.

RAKEEVAN. ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE.

THERE'S ITEM NUMBER THREE.

CEREMONIAL CEREMONIAL PRESENTATION IN JULY 2023.

[3. Ceremonial Presentation of the July 2023 Keep Angleton Beautiful Yard of the Month and Business of the Month.]

KEITH ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL YARD OF THE MONTH AND BUSINESS OF THE MONTH.

FACE YOUR BACK. HE WANTS TO SEE THAT.

MIKEY. NICOLE AND YOUR KIDS? CORRECT. OKAY.

YOU ALL KNOW THIS GUY.

OKAY. JUST Y'ALL THREE.

OKAY. I'M TRACY.

THIS IS PATTY WITH KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL.

Y'ALL KNOW MIKEY SVOBODA.

BORN AND RAISED IN ANGLETON.

SOMEBODY NOMINATED WAKEY WAKEY.

AND OF COURSE, IT'S AN AWESOME PLACE.

AND PERSONALLY AND US AS CITIZENS COUNCIL KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING YOUR BUSINESSES IN ANGLETON TAKING PRIDE YOUR COMMUNITY SERVICE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

OH, GET. GET THE. COME ON.

[APPLAUSE] OKAY. YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY THE NAME.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY THEIR NAME TODAY? I DON'T KNOW. HUH? OH, LOUIS LINDLEY, WHO'S MY NEIGHBOR WHEN IT GOT NOMINATED, I WAS SO THRILLED.

HE HAS A VINTAGE AUTO AND HIS GIRLFRIEND, DEBBIE.

SO I THINK THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO COME.

[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE CAN GO BACK. OKAY.

THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M SERIOUS.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.

[CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL]

SHALL WE RECEIVE ANY MORE SLIPS? OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THEM IN THE ORDER.

I'VE GOT THEM.

CHRISTOPHER PHILLIPS, EIGHT COLONY DRIVE.

PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

MR. MAYOR. MR. PRO-TEM COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER PHILLIPS.

I'VE LIVED AT EIGHT COLONY DRIVE FOR 13 YEARS.

LAST YEAR, JUNE 28TH.

YOU WERE NICE ENOUGH TO HAVE US ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT OUR STREETLIGHTS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY STREET LIGHTING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS.

PEOPLE WALK IN THE STREET.

KIDS WALK IN THE STREET.

I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU A LITTLE OF THE DISCUSSION LAST YEAR, MR. MAYOR, YOU SAID, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED TO BE DONE.

FOR A LONG TIME WE'VE BEEN KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD.

FORMER COUNCILS, EVERYBODY, IT'S TIME TO FIX IT.

MR. TOWNSEND THE BEST USE IS TO DO THE ELECTRIC AND NOT THE SOLAR.

AND WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, THEN LOOK TO NEXT BUDGET CYCLE TO ADD THE SIX NEW STREETLIGHTS FOR COLONY DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, YOU SAID. I AGREE.

THEN AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION, MR. BOOTH SAID, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO COMMIT TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET LIGHTS.

MR.. TOWNSEND ABSOLUTELY, MR. MAYOR, TO THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK YOU ALL HAVE PRETTY GOOD DIRECTION.

MR.. WHITTAKER SO I THINK WE HAVE GOOD DIRECTION TO STAFF.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ON THE NINTH.

WE DON'T HAVE LIGHTS.

I'M WONDERING IF IF WE SHOULD EXPECT THAT TO REMAIN THAT WAY.

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WELL, WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION AT THE MOMENT.

BUT IF IF YOU WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL REACH OUT TO CHRIS.

WE'LL TALK AND I CAN CONTACT YOU.

I'VE GOT YOUR PHONE NUMBER ON HERE.

SO LET ME GET LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT AND TELLING US REMINDING US OF WHAT WE SAID.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

THAT WAS PERFECT.

I DO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING WE SAID AND THIS IS BUDGET TIME, SO IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP, GLENN MOODY.

MAYOR COUNCILMAN AND CITIZENS.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING NOT JUST MYSELF AS A VETERAN, BUT AS A PAST COMMANDER OF THE AMERICAN LEGION AND ANGLETON.

OF COURSE, A LOT OF YOU ALL KNOW RAY SMITH, WHO'S COMMANDER OF THE AMERICAN LEGION.

JOHN WAS PAST COMMANDER OF THE AMERICAN LEGION AND ANGLETON.

WE'VE WORKED HARD TO MAKE THE CITY PROUD OF WHAT WE CAN DO AS AMERICAN LEGION AND WHAT WE DO WITH OUR COMMUNITY, OUR STATE, OUR NATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS IS WE WERE KIND OF ABRUPTLY NOTIFIED OR INFORMED THROUGH AN EMAIL THAT THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION WHICH WE AGREE IS A GOOD ORGANIZATION.

ITS WARRIORS REFUSE OUT OF WEST COLUMBIA.

WELL, WE HAVE COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND TOLD YOU ABOUT OUR UPCOMING 25TH YEAR PARADE, WHICH WE'RE BRINGING BACK TO ANGLETON.

EVERYBODY AGREED THAT'S A GREAT DEAL.

WE'RE PROUD TO BRING THAT BACK AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THE FOCAL POINT OF WHAT WE DO AS AS VETERANS AND AS LEGIONNAIRES.

BUT THIS ORGANIZATION HAS PUT OUT AND FROM WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD, NO ONE ELSE MAY KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT THEY'VE PUT OUT A FLIER PROCLAIMING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A VET FEST.

ON VETERANS DAY AT BATES PARK.

THEY WANT TO HAVE A FUNDRAISER AND THEY WANT TO HAVE FOOD BOOTHS.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FUN BOOTHS.

THEY'RE SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO HAVE A BIKE RIDE AND FOOD TRUCKS, ETCETERA, ALL ON THAT DAY STARTING AT 10 A.M.

TO 8 P.M..

NOT THAT WE ARE OBJECTING TO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ON DOING.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BRING OUT THAT WE ALWAYS PLAN THIS.

WE HAVE A VETERANS PARADE EVERY YEAR.

IN BRAZORIA COUNTY.

JON HASSELL IS A VERY FIRST ONE TO START AND CAME UP WITH THE IDEA AND WE'VE DONE THAT AND SUPPORTED IT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

AND AND SO IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PARADE.

WHEN WE CONTACTED THE ORGANIZERS OF VET FEST, THEY SAID, WELL, WE COULD JUST PIGGYBACK ON YOUR PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BRING A LOT OF VETERANS INTO ANGLETON. OKAY.

BUT YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND, OUR PROGRAM STARTS AT 730 IN THE MORNING WITH FREE BREAKFAST.

FOR ALL VETERANS AND THEIR SPOUSES.

IF THEY WANT TO COME.

THEN WE START LINING UP FOR THE PARADE AT 930 IN THE MORNING AND THEN THE PARADE STARTS AT 11.

THE PROGRAM AFTERWARDS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WILL RUN TILL APPROXIMATELY 3:00.

I DON'T SEE THAT A LOT OF OUR VETERANS ARE GOING TO BE LEAVING THE PARADE OR THE PROGRAMS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DEDICATED SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY ON PUTTING ON THAT TO GO TO THEIR VET FEST.

AS I UNDERSTAND, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE EVEN MADE AN APPLICATION YET FOR THE PARK.

AND SO WE DON'T KNOW.

WE HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY FIND ANOTHER DAY OR ANOTHER LOCATION, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE.

BUT WE'RE JUST HERE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT, CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OUR VETERANS AND OUR VETERANS PARADE AND THANK OF THAT.

REAL IMPORTANT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT MAYBE THEIR APPLICATION FOR THE USE OF THE PARK.

YEAH. I'LL SEND YOU ALL AN UPDATE.

THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE PARADE.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO WORKSHOP ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION ON VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND SUBDIVISION DESIGN PRINCIPLES WITHIN THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS,

[4. Discussion on various Zoning District setback requirements and subdivision design principles within the City of Angleton, as compared to neighboring municipalities. No action is required. ]

AS COMPARED TO NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES.

NO ACTION IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME.

I'LL START. GO AHEAD.

SO THIS DISCUSSION CAME UP ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING ONE OF THE MAINS OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE WERE WORKING ON.

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AND SO THE COMMENTS WERE WE'D LIKE TO REVIEW WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AROUND US.

WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, NOT LOOKING FOR ACTION TONIGHT, BUT WANTING TO MAKE SURE I'M ADDRESSING IT AND SEE WHERE YOU ALL WANT TO GO.

SO WHETHER YOU TALK FOR 5 MINUTES OR 50 MINUTES AND GIVE US SOME DIRECTION, WE'RE NOT.

GOOD. NOTICE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE MIC IS ON.

THE INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDED YOU IS JUST A SURVEY OF 11 OR SO CITIES IN COMPARISON TO THE ANGLETON CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE MUNI CODE.

SO THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE ON THE WEB.

HOWEVER, TRYING TO DECIPHER THE INFORMATION IS DIFFICULT, BUT I DO HAVE EACH CITY'S ORDINANCE IN WHICH I'M ABLE TO PUT ON ONE DRIVE.

IF ANYONE NEEDS THE INFORMATION WHERE YOU CAN PERUSE THEIR VARIOUS CODES.

SO WHAT I TRIED TO DO WAS PUT THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IN A COUPLE OF CATEGORIES.

YOUR TYPICAL NORMAL SIZED LOT, APPROXIMATELY 7200FT².

AND THEN I SEPARATED IT OUT INTO THE STATE LOTS AND GAVE YOU INFORMATION IN TERMS OF THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR DISTRICTS. TRY TO ISOLATE DUPLEX MULTIFAMILY AND THEN YOUR GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS JUST TO GET YOU GIVE YOU A LITTLE IDEA OF SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS PER CITY.

I WILL SAY SOME OF THE YARDS VARY.

THEY VARY WHEN YOU HAVE A SIDE STREET.

SO YOU JUST LOOK AT INCREASING THAT 5 OR 10FT USUALLY IN INSTANCES LIKE THAT.

BUT WE'RE JUST PROVIDING YOU WITH THE INFORMATION.

THE PDF HAS THE LINK TO THEIR MUNI CODES AS WELL WHERE YOU ACTUALLY CAN LOOK AT THEIR VARIOUS CODE SECTIONS.

THIS IS FOR YOUR INFORMATION, FOR THE CITIES THAT IT WASN'T CLEAR YOU MIGHT SEE A NOT APPLICABLE NOTATION THERE.

BUT HOWEVER, AS I STATED, I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INDIVIDUAL CODES IF YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT IT'S JUST FOR YOUR USE.

I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE UNDER SOME SHORT TERM AND LONG RANGE CODE UPDATES TO THE CODE AT THIS TIME, SO THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR US TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS. WE DO HAVE A WORK SESSION SCHEDULED, HOPEFULLY SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER WITH YOU AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DISCUSS SOME OF THESE ITEMS AS WELL.

WE'RE WORKING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, WHICH WILL BE A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION AS WELL AS UPDATING THE ZONING CODE SECTIONS.

SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OF ME, I CAN ADDRESS THOSE AT THIS TIME.

OTHERWISE, THIS IS FOR INFORMATION, NOT ACTION, OF COURSE, AS NOTED.

I HAVE QUESTIONS. I'M WAITING.

ANYBODY ELSE? MM.

FIRST, I WANT TO GO AFTER THE SIDE YARDS.

UM. I SEE THAT WE'RE STILL FIVE ON ON THE SIDES.

AND I YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE PUTTING SHORT TERM GOALS AND LONG TERM GOALS IN TO UPDATING THIS, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS NOTHING LESS THAN TEN. I PREFER 15, BUT I'LL GO WITH TEN.

UM, AND THEN THE ROADWAY.

WE'RE AT 25.

WE ARE BY FAR THE SHORTEST, SMALLEST ROADWAY OF ALL OF THESE CITIES.

YOU KNOW, 28 SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME.

UM, SO I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO SEE 28 WIDE.

THAT SHOULD GET US A LITTLE BIT SAFER OF A WHEN CARS PARKED IN THE ROAD.

YES, SIR. BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE DEPENDENT ON ZONING.

SO IF SOMEBODY IS PUTTING 45 FOOT LOTS IN, THERE'S 30 FOOT WIDTH.

AND THEN WE CAN GO UP FROM THERE.

ANYTHING 15 ABOVE OR 55 AND ABOVE.

WE COULD DO 2028, BUT THE STANDARD ROADWAY SHOULD WIDEN.

RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S EQUITABLE.

I WILL SAY THROUGH EXPERIENCE, SIDE YARD SETBACKS.

TYPICALLY THE HOUSES ARE SEPARATED BY AT LEAST 15FT IN SOME CITIES, SEVEN AND A HALF ON BOTH LOTS MINIMUM 15FT BETWEEN HOUSES.

AND THAT TEN FOOT REQUIREMENT, AS YOU SEE, IS REPEATED IN SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES ALREADY DOING THAT.

THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD.

BUT THE PROBLEM OF PARKING OVER, BACKING OVER SIDEWALKS IS VERY COMMON.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE IF IT'S INCREASED SLIGHTLY IN THE FRONT YARD.

WELL, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TO YOU WAS I SEE A STATE RESIDENTIAL FRONT THAT'S A STATES DIFFERENT THAN A REGULAR RESIDENTIAL.

YOUR ESTATE LOTS WOULD BE TYPICALLY ONE ACRE LOTS YOU WOULD FIND IN MOST OF THE CITIES AND ARE LARGER LOT.

SO YOU'LL SEE 40 FOOT SETBACKS.

BUT I WILL SAY 35 FOOT SETBACKS ARE NORMAL IN SOME OF THE CITIES UP NORTH THAT I'VE WORKED.

I'VE SEEN IT AS A STANDARD FOR YOUR REGULAR SIZED LOTS, 35FT.

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BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEING, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED.

SO FOR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT FRONT, THE VERY FIRST COLUMN, THAT WOULD BE YOUR STANDARD.

NON ESTATE LOTS.

CORRECT. RIGHT. I TRIED TO USE 7200 AS AN AVERAGE SIZED LOT.

THAT'S JUST YOUR TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY LOT.

THAT MIGHT BE 60FT WIDE AND 70FT WIDE AT THE MOST.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF AN SUV IS? I DON'T HAVE ONE. 16.

17? YEAH.

20. MHM.

SO YOU CAN'T EVEN PARK TWO CARS BACK TO BACK AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TRYING NOT TO COVER A SIDEWALK.

EXACTLY. SO I THINK THE 25 SHOULD BE UP TO 30 ON THOSE.

THOSE ARE MY OPINIONS.

FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

YOU SEE, THESE 25 FOOT BUILDING LINES HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT FOR DECADES.

I'M JUST THROWING MY OPINION OUT HERE.

BACK WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY WERE SET UP.

YOU PROBABLY WOULD FIND 1 OR 2 VEHICLES TO A FAMILY.

NOW YOU FIND ONE FOR EVERY EVERY HEAD THAT'S IN THAT HOUSE.

SO AND THEY GOT TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK.

WELL. SO FOR A LIGHTER FOR A LIGHTER CONVERSATION.

BUT I'VE SEEN I'VE SEEN IT IN COLLEGE STATION IN THE AREA THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH.

CITY ORDINANCES ALLOW YOU TO PARK ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, ONLY ONE SIDE.

THE OTHER SIDE IS AGAINST THE LAW.

THE HIGHER YOUR CAR AWAY, IT'S SO PEOPLE CAN GET TO SECURITY VEHICLES THROUGH OR JUST HAVE SOME SORT OF A WAY TO CONTROL THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

WHETHER IT SO IT DOESN'T BECOME A PARKING LOT AND IT TENDS TO DO THAT.

SO. IN ANOTHER AREA OF CONCERN ARE CUL DE SACS WHERE PEOPLE TEND TO VIOLATE THE PARKING AND CUL DE SACS, AND THAT'S REALLY A FIRE HAZARD.

SO THAT'S ONE OTHER THING WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

SO. RESIDENTIAL SETBACKS.

LOOKING AT FRONT, I'M FOR MANY OF THE REASONS THAT MR. BOOTH JUST STATED, I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT 35.

FEET SETBACKS.

IF THAT MEANS WE NEED TO SHAVE A LITTLE BIT OFF THE REAR TOO, LIKE A 20 OR SOMETHING, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

BUT TO ME IT NEEDS TO BE 35 FOR THOSE VERY REASONS BECAUSE.

AND YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THIS.

I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE TIRED OF HEARING ME TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT FOR THAT VERY REASON, MR. BLUE STATES, THAT SEEMS LIKE GARAGES WERE BUILT ON HOMES.

EVEN TWO CAR GARAGES SEEMED TO BE MORE FOR STORES THAN ACTUALLY PARKING YOUR CAR THESE DAYS.

AND IT DOES SEEM THAT MOST HOMES, EVEN IF THERE'S ONLY OCCUPIED TWO TIMES, MEANING MAYBE A SPOUSES OR PARTNERS OR SOMETHING, SOMEHOW THEY MAY HAVE A FUN CAR. SO THEY MAY HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE CARS INSTEAD OF JUST TWO, AND THEY'RE NOT PARKED IN THE GARAGE.

AND NOW YOU'RE PUSHING OVER THE SIDEWALK.

IT DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE SIDEWALK.

I'VE BEEN IN THAT SITUATION WHERE MY KIDS HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL UTILIZING THE SIDEWALK AND CAUSES THEM TO VEER OUT INTO TRAFFIC ON AN S-CURVE AND A VERY BUSY S-CURVE AT THAT BECAUSE THAT FAMILY PARKS IN DOUBLE PARKED AND IT CAUSES THEIR TAIL END TO TO GO INTO THE SIDEWALK.

SO ANYTHING TO GIVE MORE RELIEF FROM THAT SIDEWALK WHICH WOULD BE TO ME 35FT IS IS IS TO ME JUST CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT.

IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, I THINK.

UM. I DON'T SEE THE STANDARD OF LIVING CHANGING.

I DON'T SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START HAVING LESS CARS.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF KIDS RETURNING FROM COLLEGE AND THEN COMING TO LIVE BACK AT HOME IS PRETTY PROMINENT THESE DAYS.

SO YOU'RE GETTING ADDING MORE VEHICLES TO THE DRIVEWAY, AT LEAST ONE.

UM, SO I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON.

FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY SIDE YARDS THE SAME WAY.

I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TEN.

COULD I MAYBE LIVE WITH SEVEN AND A HALF? I MEAN. I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT WE GOT, THAT'S WHAT WE GOT.

OR EIGHT FEET, MAYBE JUST A NICE ROUND NUMBER AS OPPOSED TO HALF A HALF A FOOT.

OR HALF A YARD. EXCUSE ME.

BUT. THAT'S WHAT I SAID ON THAT AS FAR AS.

I MEAN, THE SAME THING. I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE ALMOST STANDARD ON THE 35 AND THAT THAT INCLUDES COMMERCIAL.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT SAYS HERE ARE COMMERCIAL FRONT 20.

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I MEAN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT WOULD BE LESS I MEAN, I GUESS WE WANT MORE STORE FRONTAGE.

SO THEY'RE SHORTER WALKS, I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW. USUALLY THE PARKING LOT WOULD DICTATE THAT AND YOU WOULD RARELY SEE A SETBACK AT 20 OR 25IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

UM, BUT I'VE SEEN 35 AS A AS A MINIMUM IN A LOT OF CITIES.

BUT ONE THING ABOUT HAVING A 35 ON A COMMERCIAL, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE DEVELOPING IT, SOMETIMES WHAT STARTED OUT AS A TWO LANE ROAD SOMEHOW BECOMES A THREE LANE ROAD WITH A DESIGNATED TURN, AND YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THAT EXTRA SPACE TO EAT INTO.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY AT 20FT, THEN YOU'VE KIND OF LOCKED YOURSELF IN AND YOU'RE PERMANENTLY, ESPECIALLY AS SOMETHING GROWS.

SO IT MAY BE A ALMOST A BUFFER TO BUILD WHERE YOU HAVE 35 AND THEN AS THE CITY PROGRESSES AND THERE'S AND ALL SIGNS POINT THAT THERE WILL BE SOME GROWTH, IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH AND HOW FAST.

SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR 35, WHETHER THAT'S.

YOU KNOW. AS FAR AS THE WIDTH OF THE ROADS, I THINK THEY GO PART AND PARCEL TO FURTHER SETBACKS.

I STILL THINK THE ROADWAY, ESPECIALLY UNDER 60FT, SHOULD BE 28, IF NOT 30 IF YOU'RE UNDER 60FT BECAUSE THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE PEOPLE PARKED ON THE ROADS. THERE JUST IS.

IF YOU ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE JUST INTERVIEWED CANDIDATES FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ASSUME THE POSITION THAT MISTER ROBERTS NOW SITS, WE HAD ONE OF THE OTHER PERSPECTIVE.

YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND SHE GOT UP THERE AND STATED THAT HER SON HAD JUST BUILT OR BOUGHT A NEW RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND ONE OF HER CONCERNS WAS STREET PARKING ALREADY.

AND WE I MEAN, WE SAW THIS COMING.

45 FOOT LOTS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ONLY 25 FOOT SETBACK AGAIN.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, PEOPLE DON'T PARK IN THE GARAGE.

AND THAT'S JUST A CHANGE OF SOCIETY, YOU KNOW? SO. I THINK ANYTHING LESS THAN A 60 WE SHOULD DEFINITELY, I THINK, PUSH FOR 30FT. AND IF YOU'RE GREATER THAN THAT, I THINK 28 SHOULD BECOME THE STANDARD.

I MEAN, JUST THE OTHER THING TOO, IS AND MR. BOOTH CAN, YOU KNOW. SOME OF THESE VEHICLES TODAY ARE MUCH WIDER THAN THAT.

USED TO ASSUME THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WIDTH, YOU KNOW.

ESPECIALLY SUVS, WHICH ARE PRETTY POPULAR IN TRUCKS.

THIS IS TEXAS. SO TRUCKS ARE STILL REIGN SUPREME, STILL KING ON THE ROAD.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER WIDENING THE ROADWAYS.

I MEAN, I IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT.

THE PAST. WE CAN ALWAYS CONSIDER THAT, BUT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE IN WAYS TO SET OUR CITY APART.

AND HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TO SET A HIGH STANDARD.

IT'S NOT AN IMPOSSIBLE STANDARD, BUT IT SET A STANDARD THAT'S HIGH THAT ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED, WILL HOPEFULLY MAINTAIN FOR A LONG TIME, LONG PAST.

WE'RE SURVIVING.

YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS AND MANY OF THOSE ROADS, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY LIKE WE'RE BUILDING OVER ON, YOU KNOW, CHEVY CHASE AND, YOU KNOW, SAN FELIPE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THAT'S A 50 TO 60 YEAR ROAD.

I MEAN, SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND FIX IT, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO LET'S LET'S LET'S LET'S AIM BIG.

LET'S LET'S SET A STANDARD.

LET'S SET A HIGH STANDARD.

LET'S IT PROVES, IN MY OPINION, WOULD BE MUCH IMPROVEMENT TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

I MEAN, ANY TIME YOU CAN ACCESS ROADS AND YOU'RE NOT.

I MEAN, I THINK EVERYBODY'S PROBABLY DRIVEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHERE THE THE PASSING VEHICLE AND WE'RE WAITING BEHIND ANOTHER PARKED VEHICLE IN THE ROAD HAPPENS IN MY STREET ALL THE TIME. AND IT'S THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE BUT THAT STREET ALONE BECAUSE PEOPLE PARK RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT RIGHT AS THEY TURN OFF OF A MAIN ROAD.

UH, THAT INTERSECTION CAN BE QUITE HAIRY AT TIMES, AND I'M QUITE HONESTLY SURPRISED WE DON'T END UP WITH MORE ACCIDENTS ON NORTH RIDGE.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO, TO, TO SET A HIGH STANDARD.

AND IT'S NOT I DON'T THINK IT'S A POSSIBLE STANDARD.

I THINK IT'S A STANDARD THAT WILL SET THE TONE FOR THE FUTURE AND CREATE A QUALITY OF LIFE THAT I THINK WE WOULD HOPE ALL WOULD BE THERE FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS AND WHOEVER ELSE TAKES OVER THE CITY OF ANGLETON IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

MAYBE IN THE DISTANT FUTURE.

I'VE GOT ONE COMMENT.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THAT THERE ARE SOME CORNER HOUSES AND SO YOUR DRIVEWAYS, GARAGES ARE OFF THE SIDE.

SO IF YOU HAVE THAT SEVEN AND A HALF, FIVE FOOT, RIGHT, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH ROOM TO THE ROAD.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT 25, 30 FOOT TO WORK WITH ON THE DRIVEWAY.

AND SO THAT JUST TO BRING IT UP THE CORNER HOUSES, SIDE ENTRANCE ON THE GARAGE IS HARD TO DEAL WITH.

YEAH, A LOT OF CITIES WILL MIRROR THAT SAME SETBACK ON THAT CORNER LOT REQUIREMENT AND NOT RELAX IT TO 10 OR 15FT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK WITH THE DRIVEWAY.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

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AND SAME GOES WITH THE INDUSTRIAL.

AS WE NOTED ON THE COMMERCIAL, IN TERMS OF FRONT YARD, YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT SAME THRESHOLD OF 35FT, AT LEAST ON THE INDUSTRIAL.

I THINK WE'LL TAKE THESE INTO ACCOUNT.

I WILL SAY ON THE CASE BY CASE BASIS, THERE ARE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

SOMEONE COULD ALWAYS ASK FOR A PLAN DISTRICT TO RELAX THE STANDARD WITH A UNIQUE PROPOSAL.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING.

AS MUCH AS WE WANT STANDARDS AND AND HAVE GIVE GUIDANCE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THE WAY CERTAIN ROADS ARE DEVELOPED OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN, THERE JUST MAY BE THE CASE THAT YOU HAVE TO RELAX A STANDARD HERE AND THERE OR OR FIND A COMPROMISE.

MAYBE YOU RELAX HERE, BUT YOU YOU KNOW, YOU GIVE GIVE UP SOMETHING IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT.

SO THERE SHOULD ALWAYS BE ROOM FOR SOME INDIVIDUALITY, BUT WE SHOULD SET A STANDARD, I THINK.

YES. MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CONTINUING TRENDS THAT HAPPEN AND WE WANT ANGLETON TO BE IN TO LOOK THE BEST.

WE WANT TO FIX WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

AND ONE THING IS YOU'RE SEEING MULTIFAMILY, GENERATIONAL PEOPLE ALL STAYING IN THE SAME HOUSE.

NOW THAT'S MORE CARS.

IT'S NOT JUST NECESSARILY THE OLD FOUR PEOPLE TO A HOUSE.

THE PARENT, THE WIFE OR THE HUSBAND AND WIFE AND TWO KIDS.

IT'S THE GRANDMA OR THE NIECES AND NEPHEWS ARE NOW LIVING THERE, TOO, AND AUNTS AND UNCLES.

IT'S IT'S ALL KIND OF COMING TOGETHER THESE DAYS AND 4 OR 5 VEHICLES EASILY.

AND YOU SEE THAT IN SOME IN RIVERWOOD RANCH.

YOU CAN SEE IT. SO I AGREE ON THE SETBACKS CHANGING.

I DO LIKE WHAT COUNCILMAN ROBERTS SAID ABOUT THE SIDE YARDS PARKING.

I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO CATCH THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, OTIS, IS I DON'T SEE IT IN HERE, BUT.

SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENTS ON LOTS.

ANY ANY INSIGHT INTO THAT.

SO YOU BUILD A 45 FOOT LOT.

YOU CAN ONLY BUILD SO MANY SQUARE FEET ON THAT.

IS THAT ANYTHING YOU'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES? OR THEY CAN STILL BUILD THE BIGGEST HOUSE THEY CAN ON THE SMALLEST LOT.

THAT'S USUALLY DRIVEN BY ZONING.

YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOT COVERAGE.

A LOT OF CITIES WILL LIMIT BY PERCENTAGE.

RIGHT? IN TERMS OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUILD ON THAT PARTICULAR LOT.

SO SOMETIMES THERE ARE OVER DENSIFYING A SINGLE FAMILY LOT.

SO DID YOU SEE THAT ANYWHERE AND GIVE YOU SOME COMPARISONS? BUT I WILL SAY WITH THOSE 4 TO 5 FOOTERS THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY, WE'RE SEEING OVER DENSIFYING OF THAT LOT BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT A LARGER HOME ON IT.

RIGHT? TO SATISFY OUR RELAXED REQUIREMENTS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

BUT THAT CAN BE CORRECTED, I THINK, IN HOUSTON.

THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THREE, FOUR STORY HOMES, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY JUST BUILD UP.

YES. AND ONE MORE THING THAT I MEANT TO ADDRESS AND.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CODE REGARDING THE CUL DE SAC PARKING? WE LOOKED IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT, I THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON, NUMBER ONE, THE FIRE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.

MAYBE THAT COULD BE DECLARED A FIRE LANE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SO MUCH WITH AS LONG AS IT'S I MEAN, CHECK WITH THE CHIEFS AND, YOU KNOW, THE YOU KNOW, THE WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? OH, MY GOSH. PARALLEL PARKING.

BUT I'VE SEEN THEM WHERE THEY'RE ALMOST TANDEM PARTS.

AND THAT'S I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHO COULD TURN AROUND IN THOSE CUL DE SACS, ESPECIALLY A BIG YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS GOT A PLAN FOR THE WORST, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FIRES EVERY DAY, BUT IN THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND TURN AROUND OR WHATEVER IT IS.

AND AND I'VE SEEN IT BECAUSE I'VE I'VE GONE OUT TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS JUST TO SEE THE GROWTH.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF EXCITING, YOU KNOW, TO SEE SOME OF THE GROWTH.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THE PARKING.

AND AND ANYWAY, I JUST THINK WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE SOME ACTION OR LOOK AT THE CHIEF AND SAY WE MAY HAVE TO GIVE SOME WARNINGS OR CITATIONS OR WHATEVER.

IF IT IS ENFORCEABLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS IF IT'S NOT, NOT PRESENTLY.

BUT WE NEED TO MAY MAY NEED TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE BECAUSE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ONE ONE TRAGEDY TAKES PLACE BECAUSE WE CAN'T ACCESS IT BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S PARKED ILLEGALLY.

I'M SURE THEY WOULD RUN OVER THE TRUCK WITH IT.

YEAH, THEY'LL MAKE THEIR WAY THROUGH, BUT.

BUT IF WE CAN AVOID IT.

CHIEF, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE ENFORCING? PARKING ON SIDEWALKS.

OKAY. THERE'S NOTHING HERE.

GREAT. THESE STREETS ARE PUT IN THERE FOR YOU TO CONVEY TRAFFIC FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

I DON'T CONSIDER A STREET A PARKING LOT.

THOSE ARE CITY UTILITIES.

THOSE ARE CITY FACILITIES.

THE CITY TAKES THEM OVER, BECOME THE CARETAKER OF THESE STREETS.

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AND UNLESS SOMETHING IS DESIGNATED IN A PARKING LOT SOMEPLACE DOWN DOWNTOWN WHERE YOU HAVE PARKING, PARKING AREAS, BUT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, IT'S PRIMARILY HOW YOU GET FROM THE MAIN DRAG TO YOUR HOUSE.

NOT THAT EVERYBODY JUST COMES IN AND ROUTINELY FILLS UP THE STREET WITH PARKING.

SO IT'S.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I AGREE WITH MOST EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID OR ACTUALLY PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.

JUST ALSO ECHO THAT THERE ARE GENERATIONS I KNOW MANY FAMILIES IN TOWN THAT HAVE MULTI GENERATIONS, NOT JUST COLLEGE STUDENTS COMING BACK, BUT THEIR PARENTS.

AND THEN ADULT CHILDREN ARE MOVING BACK HOME TO BUILD THEIR HOUSE OR SAVE UP FOR THEIR MORTGAGE.

AND I KNOW OF AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE WHO DID NOT BUY IN RIVERWOOD RANCH BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PARK THEIR WORK TRUCK WITHOUT BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK.

AND I'D LIKE TO AVOID THAT IN THE FUTURE.

POINT WELL TAKEN.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

SOMEBODY ELSE. ALL RIGHT, OTIS, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. SO IS THERE ANY GUIDANCE LIKE, HEY, WE WANT TO REVIEW THIS AND POTENTIALLY MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS? OH, YES. YES. WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I THOUGHT OTIS SAID WE HAD SOME NEAR AND LONG TERM, SO I FIGURED YOU'D BE BRINGING SOMETHING BACK TO US IN THE NEAR.

I THINK THIS WILL FIT UNDER THE CATEGORY OF LONG TERM RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY. IF YOU. BUT CAN WE HAVE A REVIEW IN THE NEAR TERM? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST.

I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, YES, THIS THIS IMPACTS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

SURE. SO I DON'T I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK YOU WANT TO WAIT.

I THINK YOU WANT TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND MAKE A DECISION NOW SO WE CAN INCORPORATE IT AS EITHER, YOU KNOW, IN IN FIELD DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT.

ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL COME BACK SOON.

I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SET ANYBODY UP.

I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY COME AND TALK TO US AND HAVE A MISUNDERSTANDING OR A SWITCH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREAM ON THEM.

YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER HAVE A BRIGHT LINE RULES LIKE CECIL SAYS, SAYING, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT SETBACKS.

AND THESE COULD BE SOME OF THE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN DOGS AND OTHER.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THE OTIS, YOUR DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOME GRAND IDEAS OF WHAT TO DO AND THEN COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND PRESENT THEM AS MY OPINION.

THAT'S PART OF WHY WE HAVE YOU ON BOARD.

SO, YEAH, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I KNOW COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND HAD SAID IT REFERENCED, I THINK SEVEN AND A HALF TO TEN FOOT SIDE YARDS, IF WE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.

I WAS LIKE, WELL, WE ARE THE ONES MAKING THE DECISION WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE INPUT FROM FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF STAFF.

SO. I'LL JUST MAKE THAT STATEMENT RIGHT THERE.

SO IT'S UP TO US.

YEP, I AGREE. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE CHART.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE FISCAL YEAR 2021, 2022 AUDIT REPORT BY BELLE HARRIS BƉKASSY.

[5. Discussion and possible action to accept the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 audit report by Belt Harris Pechacek.]

HOW DO YOU SAY IT? PROJECT, HOTSHOT.

YOU'RE CLOSE. YOU'RE ALMOST ON IT.

GOTCHA. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE.

ROBERT HARRIS WITH BELL HARRIS, AND I'LL LET HIM SAY THE LAST WORD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT.

JUST QUICKLY, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY INFORMATION AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE REPORT ITSELF.

I'VE BEEN AUDITING CITY GOVERNMENTS FOR 35 YEARS.

OUR CITY, OUR FIRM CURRENTLY AUDITS APPROXIMATELY 40 DIFFERENT CITIES BAYTOWN, PASADENA, CITY OF NEW BRAUNFELS.

SMALL CITIES, BIG CITIES, FAST GROWING CITIES, OLD INDUSTRIAL TYPE CITIES.

SO A GOOD ASSORTMENT.

ALSO, AUDITORS OF THE HARRIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, LARGEST APPRAISAL DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THE HOUSTON HARRIS COUNTY SPORTS AUTHORITY THAT OWNS MINUTE MAID, NRG STADIUM.

THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES.

SO AGAIN, WE WORK WITH KIND OF A WIDE RANGE OF GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.

APPROXIMATELY 140 GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS IS KIND OF WHAT WE DO.

ODDLY ENOUGH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT AS I WAS DRIVING UP HERE, I'VE TESTIFIED MORE AGAINST CITY OFFICIALS IN BRAZORIA COUNTY COURTHOUSE THAN ANY OTHER COURTHOUSE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT LUCKILY, NONE OF THEM WERE RELATED TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON OFFICIALS.

SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

BUT ANYWAY, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY OWN BACKGROUND.

VERY PLEASED TO GET INTO THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT REPORT, VERY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE ISSUING AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT WE CAN

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PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL, THAT ALL THE DISCLOSURES REQUIRED BY GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE MATERIALLY CORRECT.

SO THAT IS EXACTLY THE OPINION YOU WANT TO HEAR TONIGHT.

SO THAT IS THAT IS FANTASTIC NEWS.

I'M GOING TO JUST GET INTO A COUPLE OF HIGH LEVEL THINGS.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET TOO FAR DOWN IN THE WEEDS ON GOING THROUGH YOUR FINANCIAL NUMBERS.

I KNOW THE ACCOUNTANTS TEND TO PUT EVERYBODY TO SLEEP, SO I'M GOING TO QUICKLY HIT SOME HIGH LEVEL NUMBERS FOR YOU.

SORRY, MY PAGE FLIPPERS NOT WORKING.

VERY GOOD. MR. HARRIS, JUST REAL QUICK, TELL US WHICH ONE YOU'RE ON.

YOU'RE ON THE SINGLE AUDIT OR THE ANNUAL.

I'M LOOKING AT THE VERY LARGE REPORT.

OKAY. GOTCHA. AND ACTUALLY, MY NAME IS ROBERT BELT AND I'M THE MANAGING PARTNER FOR THE FIRM, SO.

GOTCHA. BUT BUT I GET CALLED MR. HARRIS QUITE A BIT, SO I ACCEPT I'LL WEAR THAT NAME AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MR. POWELL. BUT PAGE NUMBER 30 IS A PAGE NUMBER THAT I'M LOOKING AT.

AND IF YOU WERE JUST GOING TO LOOK AT ONE PAGE IN THE WHOLE REPORT, THIS WOULD BE THE PAGE TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A GOOD SUMMARY OVERALL VIEW OF WHAT TOOK PLACE IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR THE YEAR.

THE GENERAL FUND IS PRESENTED IN THE FAR LEFT HAND COLUMN, SO I'LL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION OVER TO THE LEFT HAND COLUMN.

TOTAL REVENUES FOR THE GENERAL FUND CAME IN AT 15,000,000.15 POINT 5 MILLION, ALMOST $15.6 MILLION.

EXPENDITURES CAME IN AT 17.8 MILLION.

AFTER TAKING INTO ACCOUNT OTHER FINANCING SOURCES AND USAGE OF SOME $1.7 MILLION POSITIVE, YOU HAD A NET REDUCTION IN YOUR FUND BALANCE FOR THE YEAR OF $465,000.

YOU BEGAN THE YEAR WITH A FUND BALANCE OF 3.9 MILLION AND YOU ENDED THE YEAR WITH A FUND BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY $3.5 MILLION.

AS YOU KNOW, FUND BALANCE IS YOUR PRIMARY INDICATOR OF FINANCIAL HEALTH FOR A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.

MOST BOND RATING AGENCIES AND OTHER OFFICIALS OR PROFESSIONALS WILL LOOK AT THAT.

AND TYPICALLY WE'LL LOOK AT YOUR TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET AND LOOK AT A PERCENTAGE.

AND TYPICALLY THEY'RE WANTING YOU TO HAVE 30, 60, 90 DAYS ON HAND TO TO GET AS A AS A GAUGE.

SO THE CITY IS COMING IN ALMOST AT 20 ABOUT 20%, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 20%.

SO A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 90 DAYS.

SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT, THOUGH, IS WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT LATER IS THE CITY ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE SAYING THAT YOUR TARGET IS 25%. THAT'S AN INTERNAL THAT'S AN INTERNAL MATTER FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.

BUT WE JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE GOAL YOU ESTABLISHED WAS 25%.

SO YOU CAME IN SHORT OF THAT, A GOAL FOR THE YEAR, PRIMARILY AS A RESULT OF THE REDUCTION IN FUND BALANCE FOR THE YEAR.

ALL THE OTHER FUNDS LOOK TYPICALLY NORMAL FOR FOR THOSE TYPES OF FUNDS.

SO THE ACTIVITY LOOKS OKAY.

I'M GOING TO QUICKLY FLIP OVER TO PAGE 37 AND TALK ABOUT YOUR WATER AND SEWER OPERATIONS REALLY QUICK.

OPERATING REVENUES FOR WATER AND SEWER ON PAGE 37 CAME IN AT $8.3 MILLION.

OPERATING EXPENSES.

EXPENSES WERE 7.7 MILLION, ALMOST 7.8 MILLION AFTER AFTER TAKING INTO ACCOUNT NON OPERATING REVENUES AND EXPENSES AS WELL AS TRANSFERS IN AND OUT, YOU HAD A NET REDUCTION IN YOUR POSITION FOR THE YEAR OF $257,000.

AND SO THAT'S A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THAT FUND AS WELL.

YOU'LL ALWAYS WANT TO MONITOR YOUR WATER AND SEWER RATES TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ACHIEVING YOUR OBJECTIVES.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES OUT THERE IN TERMS OF IF YOU ARE TRYING TO RECOVER YOUR DEPRECIATION OR NOT.

SO AGAIN. PHILOSOPHIES OUT THERE, BUT JUST CLOSELY MONITOR THAT IN CONNECTION WITH THE DETERMINING IF YOUR WATER AND SEWER RATES ARE ADEQUATE TO ACHIEVE YOUR OBJECTIVES. ONE OTHER ITEM TO POINT OUT, JUST BECAUSE IT IS REFERENCED ELSEWHERE, BACK ON PAGE 50.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE WITHIN THE DOCUMENT IS ANY TIME THAT THERE IS A UNFAVORABLE BUDGET VARIANCE AT WHAT IS DEFINED AS THE LEGAL LEVEL OF CONTROL.

AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INSTANCES WHERE THE BUDGET THAT YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD ESTABLISHED WAS NOT ADHERED TO.

SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU.

AND SO THAT'S PRESENTED ON PAGE 50.

AND I'M GOING TO QUICKLY SHIFT DOCUMENTS, MOVING ON TO WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE SINGLE AUDIT REPORT.

IT'S A SEPARATELY BOUND DOCUMENT AND DON'T REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT IT.

BUT I'LL JUST QUICKLY TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.

ANY TIME THE CITY RECEIVES OVER $750,000 IN FEDERAL GRANTS, THAT IS A GOOD THING.

BUT WHEN YOU GO OVER THAT $750,000, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUIRES YOUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR TO DO A SINGLE AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S GUIDELINES. OKAY.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS REPORT COVERS, VERY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE.

IT'S ALSO AN UNMODIFIED OPINION.

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THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT EXCEPTIONS NOTED WITH THE GRANT PROGRAM.

SO EVERYTHING CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH AND YOUR SINGLE AUDIT SIDE VERY PLEASED TO SEE THE CITY RECEIVED TWO POINT APPROXIMATELY $2.4 MILLION IN FEDERAL GRANTS FOR THE YEAR.

SO THAT IS FREE MONEY IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

YEAH, CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMPANION DOCUMENTS JUST TO QUICKLY DESCRIBE TO YOU THOSE THOSE WERE PROBABLY SLIPPED IN THE VERY BACK OF YOUR REPORT, BUT TWO SEPARATELY DIFFERENT LETTERS.

ONE IS A LITTLE THICKER THAN THE OTHER ONE.

THE OTHER ONE'S THE FIRST ONE IS CALLED THE REQUIRED AUDITOR DISCLOSURE LETTER.

THIS IS A LETTER THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO ISSUE BY THE AICPA.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE AUDIT PROCESS.

I'LL SAVE YOU A WHOLE LOT OF READING REALLY QUICKLY AND JUST TELL YOU WE DIDN'T GET IN A FISTFIGHT WITH MANAGEMENT.

WE DIDN'T GET INTO ARGUMENT ABOUT OUR ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO IT WAS A GOOD AUDIT.

SO NOTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED.

BUT IF IT DID, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DESCRIBE THE FISTFIGHT THAT TOOK PLACE.

SO BUT IT WAS A GOOD AUDIT PROCESS.

NOTHING UNUSUAL NOTED.

THERE IS ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT, THOUGH, IS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE SUGGESTED BE MADE TO YOUR FINANCIAL INFORMATION AFTER IT WAS SUBMITTED TO US FOR AUDIT.

AND SO THE BACK PART OF THIS REPORT IS ALL THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE POSTED DURING THE AUDIT PROCESS AND THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 35 ADJUSTMENTS POSTED IN TOTAL IN TYPICAL NUMBER WOULD PROBABLY BE 8 TO 10 FOR US.

SO A LITTLE BIT LARGER, LARGER NUMBER THAN MOST.

AND SO WE JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

AND THEN THE VERY LAST ITEM IS THE MANAGEMENT LETTER WON'T GET INTO THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS IN HERE, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT ANY FINDINGS WE HAD DURING THE AUDIT PROCESS ITSELF RELATED TO INTERNAL CONTROLS, LAWS AND REGULATIONS, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH SUMMARIZES THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT.

VERY PLEASED TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS.

I GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY FIRST.

SO I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, WHAT SO IN ALL THESE ENTITIES YOU'VE BEEN AUDITING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT 90 DAY RESERVE THAT WE TRY TO HAVE.

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING STANDARD IN OTHER AREA CITIES IN TERMS OF RESERVE, NUMBER OF DAYS OF RESERVE? THE 90 DAYS IS A HEALTHY AMOUNT.

I DON'T NORMALLY RECOMMEND GOING BELOW 60, PARTICULARLY LOCATED ON THE GULF COAST.

I WOULD I WOULD PUSH THE RESERVE ON UP AND UP THERE.

SO I THINK THE 90 THRESHOLD IS IS A GOOD ONE TO HAVE.

IT WILL PERHAPS AT TIMES PRESENT OPERATING CHALLENGES LIKE YOU CURRENTLY HAVE THAT YOU MIGHT DIP BELOW THAT NUMBER.

BUT EVEN IF YOU DIP BELOW IT, YOU'RE STILL IN GOOD SHAPE.

YOU HAVEN'T HIT A CRITICALLY LOW NUMBER OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

SO I WOULD I WOULD PROBABLY SUGGEST YOU KEEP YOUR GOAL WHERE IT CURRENTLY HAS AND THEN WORK ON THOSE FACTORS THAT RESULTED IN HITTING THAT NEGATIVE OR GOING BELOW YOUR GOAL, WHICH IN MY OPINION, IF YOU'RE I'LL POINT OUT ONE OTHER ITEM TO YOU REAL QUICKLY.

YOUR BUDGET TO ACTUAL FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND IS PRESENTED BACK ON PAGE I BELIEVE 76.

I CAN GET MY PAGES TO FLIP.

THERE WE GO. YES.

BACK ON PAGE 76, 77.

THIS IS YOUR BUDGET TO ACTUAL FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND.

AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 77, THE SECOND COLUMN OVER IS YOUR FINAL BUDGET AMOUNTS.

AND AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBERS DOUBLE UNDERLINE THERE FOR YOUR FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD PLANNED FOR A REDUCTION OF $57,000 AND THE ACTUAL REDUCTION WAS $465,000.

AND SO THERE'S YOUR $400,000 DIFFERENCE WHERE YOU DIPPED BELOW YOUR FUND BALANCE NUMBER IS PRETTY MUCH ATTRIBUTED TO NOT ADHERING TO YOUR ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS WAS ADOPTED.

AND AGAIN, THE TYPICALLY THE SECRET THERE IS TO AS YOU'RE GOING, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE MONITORING AND BEING AWARE OF WHERE YOU'RE AT IN YOUR BUDGET PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, IF ELECTRICAL BILLS GO WAY UP, THEN YOU EITHER GOT TO DIAL BACK THE THERMOSTAT OR YOU'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN TIME SO THAT YOU YOU ACTUALLY PLAN FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THAT AS YOUR AUDITORS, WE WOULD PREFER TO SEE YOU APPROVE A BUDGET VARIANCE AFTER THE FACT THAN NOT AT ALL TO INDICATE THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND YOU CONCURRED WITH WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

SO AGAIN, I THINK THE SECRETS IN CONTROLLING AND MONITORING THE BUDGET SIDE OF IT WILL HELP ADDRESS THE FUND BALANCE ISSUE.

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WELL, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET AND THE FINAL BUDGET BE THE MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

OKAY. AND THEN YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT EVEN AFTER MID-YEAR, IF WE SEE WE'RE WE HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE TO GO BACK AND MAKE ANOTHER COUNCIL TO VOTE ON ANOTHER BUDGET AMENDMENT.

OR HOW WOULD YOU OFTEN AS IT TAKES.

OKAY. AS OFTEN AS IT TAKES.

BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY BE AS AS WE GET TO YEAR END.

I WOULD CERTAINLY BE MONITORING IT VERY CLOSELY AND BEING TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BUDGET VARIANCES.

THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL, NOT TO HAVE ANY BOND RATING AGENCY.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY LOOK UNFAVORABLY AT.

THEY'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT DISCLOSURE THAT I WAS POINTING OUT TO YOU, AND THEY DON'T LIKE TO SEE THOSE TYPES OF DISCLOSURES.

OKAY. IS THIS A STATEMENT AFTER ADJUSTING ENTRIES? DID YOU MAKE THE.

THIS IS CORRECT. THIS IS AFTER ALL THE ADJUSTING ENTRIES.

SO ON THE ACTUAL AMOUNTS, THAT'S AFTER YOU MADE THE ADJUSTING ENTRIES? YES. OKAY.

AND THAT ALSO KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS THE NEED TO THOSE ADJUSTING ENTRIES, THOSE 35 THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THAT IS REALLY THE TO DO LIST FOR NEXT YEAR TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE A REPEAT OF THOSE TYPES OF ENTRIES.

SO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAUSED THOSE THINGS AND ADDRESS IT BEFORE THE YEAR END IS COMPLETE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WOULD LET'S GO BACK TO PAGE 50 AND EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THOSE ITEMS. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, I MEAN.

OKAY. SO THIS IS THE EXPENDITURES OVER APPROPRIATIONS.

SO A BUDGET VARIANCE AT THE ON REVENUES, EITHER GOOD OR BAD, DOESN'T MATTER.

OKAY. BUT ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, STATE LAW SAYS YOU CANNOT SPEND MORE MONEY THAN WHAT CITY COUNCIL APPROPRIATED THROUGH YOUR BUDGET HEARING AND AMENDMENT AND ALL THE OTHER PROCESS THAT GOES THROUGH.

SO ANY TIME YOU'RE EXCEEDING THAT STATE LAW IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT THOSE DEFICIENCIES.

SO THE FIRST THE FIRST GROUP IS ARE ALL THE ITEMS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THEN THE THE OTHER ONES ARE THE OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE LISTED THERE.

ANGLETON BETTER LIVING FUND, HOTEL, MOTEL TAX, CHILD SAFETY, MUNICIPAL COURT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.

ESD. WHAT IS THE REMEDY FOR THIS? WHAT IS THE REMEDY FOR DOING THIS? SOUNDS LIKE WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS.

SO WHAT? WHAT IS THE REMEDY? THE REMEDY IS ONE MAKING SURE THAT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE ADJUSTED AND CORRECT AS YOU GO.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE THING, BECAUSE IF YOU GET A SURPRISE YEAR END, IF WE COME IN DURING THE AUDIT, MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES AND CHANGE YOUR NUMBERS UP, THEN YOU'RE HITTING YOU'RE TRYING TO HIT A MOVING TARGET. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TARGET IS.

SO THAT'S THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS MONITORING HOW YOU'RE DOING IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR BUDGET AS YOU GO.

AGAIN, IF YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN REALIZE ELECTRICAL COST IS GOING UP FOR WHATEVER REASON OR FUEL COST OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU IDENTIFY THAT SITUATION AND YOU GO BACK AND AMEND THE BUDGET AS YOU ARE GOING.

THERE IS.

IT ALSO FORCES YOU TO MAKE SOME PERHAPS SOME DIFFICULT POLICY DECISIONS AS YOU'RE GOING.

YOU EITHER HAVE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOUR FUND BALANCE IS GOING TO COME IN LOWER THAN WHAT YOU WANTED, OR YOU'VE GOT TO CUT BACK EXPENSES IN ANOTHER AREA, OR YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE REVENUES.

BUT IT FORCES YOU TO MAKE POLICY DECISIONS AS YOU'RE GOING IN REAL TIME WHERE YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

OBVIOUSLY, GETTING THE AUDIT, YOU KNOW, MANY MONTHS AFTER THE FACT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS IN THERE WAS THE DEBT SERVICE PRINCIPLE.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO REPEAT NEXT TIME.

CORRECT. THAT WAS THE EARLY PAYMENT ON THE PRINCIPLE.

THEN THE CAPITAL OUTLAY HAD AN OFFSETTING TRANSFER IN.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES. SO CAPITAL WAS CAPITAL LEASE PROCEEDS ON THAT ONE? YES. OKAY. YEAH.

SO THAT RIGHT THERE IS 475,000.

THOSE TWO ITEMS ALONE.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE OTHER ONES, BUT.

I MEAN, I DO THINK THERE WERE SOME ONE TIME ISSUES THAT OCCURRED LAST YEAR THAT I DO NOT FORESEE OCCURRING AGAIN.

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CHRIS, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? OKAY. UH, COUNCIL.

JUST. YOU TALKED ABOUT MAKING DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND THEN.

WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD STANDARD FOR YOUR IN YOUR OPINION THEN? SHOULD WE BE UPDATED BY MONTHLY? I MEAN ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS TO KNOW WE'RE IN? OR JUST BROUGHT TO US AS NEEDED ATTENTION.

WHENEVER A CRISIS PRESENTS ITSELF OR A WHERE THINGS ARE, EXPENSES ARE STARTING TO OUTPACE OUR BUDGET.

I MEAN, HOW WOULD YOU THINK TO PERHAPS ADDRESS.

I'M JUST I DON'T WANT TO.

I'M LIKE, MR. BOOTH, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAWS.

I BELIEVE THAT BEST PRACTICES WOULD BE THAT AS YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE GENERALLY MONITORING WHERE YOU ARE AT.

BUT THE FIRST MONTH OF THE YEAR, AS YOU FINISH UP THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, I WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AND JUST SEE, ARE YOU HAVE YOU USED UP ABOUT 1/12 OF YOUR TOTAL BUDGET? IF SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT MONTH, YOU KNOW, 2/12, YOU KNOW, I WOULD GENERALLY KIND OF MONITOR IT.

BUT AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH OF THE YEAR TO GO.

THERE'S GOING TO BE HIGHS AND LOWS.

THINGS ARE GOING TO GO ON. I'M NOT GOING TO BE ADJUSTING THE STICK EVERY TIME I SEE A LITTLE THING HAPPEN EARLY ON IN THE YEAR.

BUT AGAIN, KIND OF LIKE AS BRINGING IN AN AIRPLANE, AS YOU GET CLOSE TO THE GROUND, AS YOU GET CLOSE TO THAT LAST THAT LAST MONTH, YOU'RE IN THE CRITICAL TIME PERIOD WHERE A LITTLE DEVIATION COMING IN FOR THAT LAST LANDING IS IS ESSENTIAL.

EVERY FOOT MATTERS.

SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD START PAYING REALLY HIGH DEGREE OF ATTENTION TO IT.

I'D BE I'D BE RUNNING THOSE NUMBERS NUMEROUS TIMES AND DOUBLE CHECKING THEM TO MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING GOING TO THROW YOU OFF IN THAT TIME PERIOD.

A COMMON ITEM THAT HAPPENS IS JUST FORGETTING YOU HAVE A LARGE HAVE A LARGE ENGINEERING PROJECT.

YOU JUST NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S $100,000 THAT YOU JUST WEREN'T ANTICIPATING THAT ACCOUNTS PAYABLE COMING IN AFTER YEAR END.

AND AGAIN. SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO KIND OF BE WATCHING OUT FOR BECAUSE THAT WILL GET RECORDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE PHYSICALLY HAVE THE INVOICE HERE AT MONTH END.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE KIND OF BE ANTICIPATING SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

BUT IF THEY DO HAPPEN, THEN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, ONCE YOU GET ALL THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLES IN AND YOU KNOW, YOU DID GO OVER AND IDEALLY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THE AMENDMENT BEFORE THE EXPENDITURE IS INCURRED.

BUT BUT IF AFTERWARDS YOU CAN STILL DO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AFTERWARDS AND ELIMINATE THOSE BUDGET VARIANCES IN THE BEING REPORTED.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE GET OUR TAX PAYMENTS, PROPERTY TAX TWICE A YEAR.

SALES TAX IS TWO MONTHS BEHIND.

OUR REVENUE IS DURING THE SUMMER.

OUR WATER REVENUES DURING THE SUMMER.

AND SO JUST LIKE HE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE EXPENDITURE GLIDE PATH IS MORE IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ON TRACK.

EXPENDITURE WISE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT YOU'RE ALMOST HOPING THAT ALL THE REVENUES MEET THAT AT THE END, WHETHER IT'S PROPERTY TAX IN THE BEGINNING AND THEN THE SALES TAX AND THE WATER REVENUES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS THE SUMMER HITS AND REMEMBER, WHEN WE CROSS THAT THAT THRESHOLD OF 1ST OCTOBER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL TWO MONTHS BEHIND ON WATER REVENUE, ON SALES TAX.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE DO THAT, YOU KNOW, CLOSE OUT TWO MONTHS REALLY AFTER THE BUDGET YEAR ENDS, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHEN ALL THE BILLS OF THE DUST IS SETTLED AND THE REVENUES SETTLED. WELL, AS YOU SAID, THIS IS THIS ISN'T THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE OPERATED, THOUGH.

SO YOU LOOK BACK AT THE TRACK RECORD OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, YOU KIND OF HAVE A TREND OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING DURING CERTAIN MONTHS AND EXPECT THAT. THAT'S WHY I LIKE DURING MID-YEAR WE HAVE THAT EXPECTATION WHEN WE SAY, WELL, EXPENSES ARE ON TRACK, BUT REVENUE IS A LITTLE BIT BEHIND. WELL, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON.

YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS.

YEAH. DO YOU AUDIT THE CONTROLS AND PROCEDURES AS WELL? WE LOOK, WE DON'T AUDIT THE PROCEDURES, BUT WE LOOK AT THEM TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

DO YOU HAVE A. SO SIMILAR TO WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND SAID, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN AUDITING THE CITY AND OR OTHER CITIES, DO YOU SEE A BEST PRACTICES ON AUDIT CONTROLS OR I GUESS SPENDING CONTROLS THAT THEY DO? DO THEY HAVE MONTHLY REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL ON BIG ITEMS?

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DO THEY HAVE A, LET'S SAY, A DO NOT EXCEED AMOUNT OF ANYTHING OVER $25,000 ADJUSTMENT TO THE BUDGET IS MADE? I'M JUST THINKING OF IDEAS THAT WOULD, I GUESS, FIRM UP THE BUDGET AMOUNTS CLOSER TO THE EXPENDITURES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

DO THEY HAVE ANYTHING THAT KIND OF IS THE TRIPWIRE THAT SIGNIFIES YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

IN MY WORLD, ANYTHING OVER 5000 HAS TO HAVE A SECOND LEVEL SIGNATURE, WHICH WOULD BE, IN OUR CASE, COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS A NUMBER OF THOSE TYPES OF CONTROLS ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE OF IT TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL.

TRANSACTION IS BEING APPROVED.

SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY NOT THE ISSUE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS, PARTICULARLY AS YOU GET CLOSE TO MONTH OR YEAR IN THAT THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE MAYBE THERE IS, BUT THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE THAT WE'LL JUST USE ELECTRICAL AS AN EXAMPLE THAT SOMEBODY IS LOOKING TO SEE, OH MY GOSH, WE WE ONLY BUDGETED $1 MILLION FOR ELECTRICAL, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S 1.2.

WE CAN'T LEGALLY SPEND THIS EXTRA $200,000 A MONIES.

SO WE NEED TO GET THIS ON THE AGENDA RIGHT AWAY TO GET THIS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL BEFORE THIS BILL IS DUE.

SO WE CAN PAY THIS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WITH KNOWING THAT THE FULL AUTHORITY OF CITY COUNCIL IS BEHIND US.

SO MONITORING, MONITORING IS THE CRITICAL STEP THAT I THINK IS IS BEING MISSED HERE, ALONG WITH ENSURING THAT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE MONITORING ARE ACTUALLY ACCURATE.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T AGAIN, THE EXAMPLE OF THE PLANE COMING IN, IF YOU'RE IF YOUR ELEVATION IS OFF ON YOUR THEN IN YOUR IN YOUR IN YOUR FLYING THAT PLANE BY THE ELEVATION NUMBER, THEN YOU POTENTIALLY HAVE A PROBLEM.

YEAH. MY APOLOGIES.

I WASN'T I WAS REFERRING TO AN EXPENSE CONTROL AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT I WAS RELATING THAT TO A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

SO ANYTHING OVER 25,000 OF AN EXPENDITURE WOULD HAVE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY OR LET'S SAY 25,000 OVER THE BUDGET AMOUNT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD ALERT US TO MAKE A BUDGET AMENDMENT, PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

I'D PROBABLY FLIP THAT PERCENTAGE AROUND A LITTLE BIT IF I'M GETTING WITHIN 95% OF MY BUDGETED AMOUNT.

AND BY THE YOU KNOW, I'M PROJECTING THAT BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, I'M REALLY GOING TO START WATCHING THAT PARTICULAR ACCOUNT.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU JUST KIND OF FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION ON, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ACCOUNTS, YOU MAY HAVE TEN, 15% LEEWAY.

BUT WHEN YOU START GETTING DOWN TO THAT, THAT LAST 5%, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD REALLY BE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? APPRECIATE YOUR ADVICE.

IT WAS. YES.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. NONE OF US ARE TRYING TO BEAT UP ON ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS HERE.

JUST WE. WE DON'T WANT TO GET OURSELVES OUR TAIL IN A CRACK EITHER.

SO WITH THE STATE.

WELL, I DO WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, MY HAT'S OFF TO MANAGEMENT, THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ISSUING 10,000 CHECKS DURING THE YEAR.

THERE'S 10,000 LAWS AND REGULATIONS.

THEY'RE TRYING TO ADHERE TO PAYROLL ISSUES, EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S COMING AT THEM IN REAL TIME.

IT IS A DIFFICULT JOB TO DO.

AND OUR JOB IS TO BAYONET THE WOUNDED.

SO WE TELL YOU ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THAT GOT MESSED UP AND 1 OR 2 THINGS.

BUT THERE ARE 10,000 THINGS THAT HAD TO GO RIGHT DURING THE PROCESS TO IN ORDER FOR US TO GET HERE TONIGHT.

SO I DO WANT TO END ON A POSITIVE NOTE.

YOU BAYONET THE WOUNDED.

THERE WE GO. SHOOT THE WOUNDED.

THERE WE GO. WE'LL MAKE SURE.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION AND APPROVE THE AUDIT? YOU CAN.

I MEAN, YOU'VE ALREADY. AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU'VE ALREADY ACCEPTED IT.

YEAH. SO BUT YOU CAN.

I MEAN, AS AN EXTRA MEASURE, IT DOESN'T HURT.

COUNCIL. DO I HAVE A MOTION? LIKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AUDIT REPORT.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH TO ACCEPT THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 2022 AUDIT REPORT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE SIGN OR CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROGRESS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STATION NUMBER THREE EDITION.

[6. Update, discussion and possible action on the progress of the Fire Department Station No. 3 Addition.]

MYERS. MAYOR.

COUNCIL IN YOUR PACKETS TONIGHT, YOU'LL HAVE A DRAWING OF THE STATION THREE EDITION THAT WE'RE DOING.

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THIS IS A 55 BY 60 BUILDING IS WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH, A THREE BAY BUILDING.

IT'S GOING TO BE BEHIND STATION THREE DOORS FACING SOUTH BUILDING, GOING EAST AND WEST WITH THE ROOF LINE MATCHING THE EXISTING STATION THREE.

SO I'VE GOT MR. BOWLES HERE WITH IAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS WE ARE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE'RE READY TO SEND BID PACKAGES OUT AND GET THIS THING STARTED.

SO ANY QUESTIONS FROM Y'ALL ON PROGRESS OR.

SPECS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING, THE WAY WE'RE BUILDING IT, THE REASON THE DOORS ARE COMING OUT OF THE SOUTH VERSUS THE NORTH, I MEAN, THE EAST OR THE WEST, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY STATION THREE IS RIGHT NOW, STATION THREE, THE DOORS COME OUT OF THE EAST AND THE WEST.

WELL, WE NEED THE REASON WE'RE BUILDING THIS BUILDING IS WE NEED THE THE BASE BASE.

SO IF WE WERE TO ATTACH IT TO THE WEST SIDE OF THAT STATION AND BRING IT OUT, WE WOULD BE LOSING TWO BAYS AND BUILDING THREE BAYS.

SO WE'RE ONLY GAINING ONE BAY, IF THAT MAKES IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO THE THOUGHT RIGHT NOW IS WE BUILD THIS FREESTANDING BUILDING LATER ON IN THE YEARS WHEN WE EXPAND, WE CAN EXPAND IT TO STATION THREE, BUILD THE EXTRA BAYS THERE, AND THEN STATION THREE CAN TURN INTO AN ADMIN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN WE COULD ALSO GO WEST AND GO AS FAR AS WE WANT TO WEST AS WE GET LARGER.

AND SO WHAT THE THOUGHT IS, IS AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE AND GROW TO THE NORTH SIDE, MAYBE THIS STATION BECOMES A PRIMARY STATION IN THE FUTURE. WE BUILD ALL OF OUR ADMIN AND OUR ROOMS AND EVERYTHING IN THAT IN THE EXISTING STATION THREE NOW.

OKAY. THIS WILL ONLY HOUSE THREE.

TRUCKS, RIGHT? THREE TRUCKS.

CORRECT. THERE'S NO ROOM TO.

I SEE IT ON THE RENDERING.

THERE'S NOT ROOM IN THE BACK TO HAVE DOUBLE.

T T YOU ON THE SAME BAY.

SO SOME OF OUR SMALLER TRUCKS.

YES, WE COULD LIKE.

LIKE A BRUSH TRUCK OR A RESCUE TRUCK? YES, WE COULD DOUBLE STACK THEM.

THERE'S NO NEED TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS GOING TO SUFFICE US FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

ONE BAY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE USED.

WE'RE GOING TO SET UP STORAGE SHELVES AND ALL THAT.

IT'S GOING TO HELP CLEAN OUT STATION ONE AND STATION THREE ALSO.

IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE SOME OF OUR CLUTTER TO TO PUT THESE BIGGER TRUCKS IN.

SO IF THE NEED EVER ARISES, YES, WE COULD DOUBLE STACK SOME OF THE SMALLER TRUCKS.

UM, SO THERE WOULD BE ROOM FOR FUTURE GROWTH OUT THERE.

SIR, YOU STILL HAVE ROOM FOR FUTURE GROWTH OUT THERE? YEAH. SO IF YOU LOOK IF YOU LOOK RIGHT NOW, THAT STATION IS FACING THE ROOF LINE IS EAST.

WEST. OKAY. AND SO THE ROOM IS IF WE HAD GOOGLE EARTH, IF WE WENT OUT FURTHER, WE OWN ALL ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO KAWAKAWA. THE CITY OWNS ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO KAWAKAWA BRUSHY BIOS RIGHT THERE.

THAT RUNS RIGHT AT KAWAKAWA.

SO WE'VE GOT ALL OF THAT PROPERTY OUT THERE.

YEAH, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER 100 AND 150.

YEAH. SO ANOTHER 150, 200 FOOT OR MORE WEST.

I MEANT TO ASK OUT OF CURIOSITY.

WOULD IT BE AN INVESTMENT FUTURE WISE TO GAIN ACCESS TO? YOU'D HAVE TO PUT A BRIDGE OVER IT.

YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO PUT A BRIDGE.

BUT I MEANT. SO YOU BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE ANOTHER ENTRANCE OR EXIT IN CASE SOMETHING EVER HAPPENED TO PROHIBIT YOU FROM ACCESSING TO ADA.

YEAH. I THINK IF WE EVER GET CLOSER TO WHERE THAT MAY BE, SOMETHING THAT WE MAY LOOK INTO, IT MAY NOT BE NOW, BUT YEAH, I THINK LIKE.

I. IN MY MIND, I FEEL LIKE AT SOME POINT WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE CITY FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.

ANOTHER NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR, IF YOU WILL.

YES, SIR, BUT.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT MAY BE A LONG TIME DOWN THE ROAD.

ARE THE LARGE BAY DOORS NECESSARY ON THE NORTH SIDE? I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION TOO.

SO CURRENTLY THAT IS ON OUR LIST TO CUT OFF FOR BUDGET BUDGETING PURPOSES.

I UNDERSTAND LIKE HAVING BAY DOORS.

YOU WANT AIR CIRCULATION, YOU WANT TO HOSE THINGS OUT, YOU KNOW, CLEAN.

I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOUR TRUCK'S NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT, DOES IT HAVE TO BE ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP? CORRECT. CORRECT.

AND WE'VE GOT VENTILATION FANS IN THIS IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL.

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WE'VE GOT CIRCULATE. WE'VE GOT A.

THE LARGE FAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OF THE STATION.

AND THEN WE GOT THE VENTILATION TO TO MOVE AIR OUT OF THE STATION AS WELL.

SO YEAH, THE DOORS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THEY'RE ON OUR CUT LIST FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES ONCE THESE BIDS COME OUT.

WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TONIGHT, SCOTTY? WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU ALL IS.

IS BASICALLY MOVE FORWARD.

I WANT THEM TO TALK AT THE END PRICE.

JUST SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON WHAT THAT IS.

I WAS GOING TO ASK. THAT INCLUDES DETENTION.

BUT AGAIN, THAT YOU'RE YOU CONCEPTUALLY AGREE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND AND GO OUT AND BID AND BUILD BUILD THE BUILDING.

OKAY. SO SHE GETS TO BE THE GOOD COP IN THE ARCTIC TO BE THE BAD COP.

WE START TALKING ABOUT.

YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRST, ESPECIALLY ON THE HEELS OF THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.

SO THANKS, CHIEF. SO, YOU KNOW, BEAR THE BAD NEWS.

YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S GETTING CHEAPER THESE DAYS.

I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION BUDGET WAS 500,000 FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE'VE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS, STEVE AND I HAS.

AND AS WE POINTED OUT, WE PROBABLY ARE COMING IN ABOVE 500,000.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THE MARKET IS CHANGING A LITTLE BIT.

A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO DEPEND UPON THE ACTUAL CONTRACTOR, THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND HOW HUNGRY THEY ARE.

THERE'S A CONTRACTOR OUT THERE SOMEWHERE THAT CAN BUILD THIS FOR UNDER $500,000.

WHETHER THEY COME TO CHOOSE TO BID ON THIS PROJECT OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S CERTAINLY AMPLE NUMBERS OF CONTRACTORS THAT ARE GOING TO GO OUT AND BID THIS THING, AND IT'S GOING TO COME IN 550, MAYBE EVEN APPROACHING SIX.

SO WE ARE ALREADY SHAKING THE HEDGES, BEATING THE PATHWAYS DOWN TO REALLY SOLICIT A LOT OF BIDS, A LOT OF CONTRACTORS TO COME IN.

AGAIN, AS CHIEF HAS POINTED OUT, THERE'S ANOTHER COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE CAN DO WITHOUT.

WE'D RATHER NOT DO WITHOUT THEM.

SOME OF IT'S THE THE DOORS TO THE NORTH, SOME OF IT'S SOME ADDITIONAL PAVING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE.

IT'S THERE'S A PRETTY HEFTY CHUNK OF PAVING THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT COULD CERTAINLY FIND A WAY TO USE IT.

IS IT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? NO. YOU'LL NEED IT IN THE FUTURE, UNDOUBTEDLY.

SO THERE'S THERE'S SOME WAYS IF WE NEED TO IF WE DON'T HAVE FAVORABLE BIDS THAT KEEP US WITHIN BUDGET.

CHIEF IS VERY PROACTIVELY ALREADY STARTED CITING SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT AS A FALLBACK POSITION, WE CAN CONSIDER THOSE THINGS TO GET IN BUDGET.

AND GIVEN THOSE ITEMS, I THINK WE WILL BE IN BUDGET.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RETENTION.

YEAH, THE THE RETENTION, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CAUGHT US OFF GUARD.

YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF THOUGHT AND HOPED THAT WE WERE EXEMPT FROM RETENTION AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE, PER SE, A RETENTION POND.

BUT WE DO HAVE A VERY NICE DETENTION DITCH THAT BASICALLY ENCOMPASSES THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND EVEN THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ALL FLOWS WEST AND THEN OUTFALLS INTO BRUSHY CREEK.

SO IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, DETENTION POND, BUT THERE IS SOME SITE WORK THAT'S WE HAD TO CONSIDER FOR, FOR SOME SITE WORK ON THAT AND THAT COST SOME MONEY AS WELL.

BUT THAT THAT SITE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE BY THE AD ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT RIGHT NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

OKAY. DOES THAT DRAINAGE MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT FOR HDR OR.

UM, IT DID GO THROUGH.

IT DID GO THROUGH OTIS AND ADD.

OKAY. SO YOU'LL SEE THIS AGAIN BECAUSE WHEN THE BIDS COME BACK, YOU'LL HAVE TO APPROVE THE BIDS AND ALL THAT SO WE CAN TALK FURTHER ABOUT COST.

CHIEF, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT YOUR PROPOSED CUTS WOULD BE IF IT COMES BACK? ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE DOORS ALREADY, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF ELECTRICAL.

FOR INSTANCE, THE THE LARGE FAN AND THE IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING IS NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED WITH THE VENT FANS ON THE SIDES.

AND THEN HE TALKED ABOUT PAVING.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAVING ON THE BACK SIDE, THE WEST SIDE, SO YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE LEFT SIDE, WE CAN CUT THAT PAVING ALMOST COMPLETELY OFF.

WE CAN PUT CRUSHED CONCRETE, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE CHEAPER OVER THERE.

THE PAVING ON THE EAST SIDE.

WE HAD TO MOVE THAT BUILDING FURTHER TO THE WEST BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TRUCKS THAT COME OUT OF THE BACK SIDE OF STATION THREE.

AND SO IF WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS SHOWING UP AND THEY RUN DOWN THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEY PARK OVER AT THE NEW BUILDING TO GET IN WHATEVER TRUCK IS IN THAT NEW BUILDING, THEY HAVE TO PARK RIGHT THERE.

THOSE TRUCKS DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF ROOM TO TURN WITH THOSE WITH THOSE CARS PARKED THERE.

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SO WE HAD TO MOVE THAT.

I THINK WE MOVED IT 25FT MAYBE.

AND SO THAT CAN BE CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE WORK ON PARKING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TO THE NORTH OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

BUT THE BIGGEST COST, THE BIGGEST COST SAVINGS IS GOING TO BE PAVING.

THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR BIGGEST COST SAVINGS.

AGREE? YES.

AND SO THIS IS WE'RE KIND OF IN THE BALLPARK ISH FOR WHAT WE PROJECTED THIS TO BE OUT OF THE 10 MILLION BOND.

SO IT'S NOT A BUDGETARY ITEM.

AND REALLY IT BECOMES, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU CLOSE TO THE TARGET? WE STILL WE STILL HAVE OTHER STILL HAVE MORE MONEY IN THAT BOND AVAILABLE.

SO IF IT DOES GO OVER, WE CAN WE CAN PAY FOR IT WITHOUT IMPACT OTHER THAN IT'LL IMPACT POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECTS.

YEAH. PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE.

BUT IF YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE FOOTPRINT, THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT YOU DON'T CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF THE PAVING.

YOU CAN'T AFFORD YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LIGHTEN UP ON THE PAVING FOR THOSE TRUCKS TO DRIVE ON.

NO, WE ACTUALLY BEAT THE STRUCTURE UP WITH EIGHT INCH CONCRETE BECAUSE.

YEAH. FOUNDATION ROBUST.

YEAH. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO CUT, DON'T CUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE PAVEMENT.

JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IS THERE A BRAND NAME ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LARGE FAN? USE YOUR IMAGINATION.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S A LARGE FAN.

IT'S A BIG IT'S A BIG, BIG FAN.

BIG BLINK FAN.

BIG FAN, ACTUALLY. THE ONE.

ACTUALLY SPECIFIED AS A GREEN HEAD.

OKAY. THERE YOU GO.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL. ANY OTHER FURTHER ANYTHING ELSE, YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK TO US WITH THE BIDS? VERY FEW DAYS OF IS COMING BY TOMORROW.

HE'S GOING TO TWEAK IT ONE MORE TIME.

WE'VE GIVEN HIM, I THINK, THREE DIFFERENT, AS YOU SAID, AT LEAST TWO.

HE'S COMING BACK IN JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING PICKED UP FROM THE LAST TIME.

WE'RE REALLY READY TO SIGN THE SEAL AS SOON AS HE COMES BACK WITH ANY COMMENTS.

SO WE'LL BE READY TO ADVERTISE.

I THINK WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF RIGHT NOW TO TWEAK SOME OF THE TO TWEAK SOME OF THE FRONT END SPECIFICATIONS, INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, BONDING REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, INSTRUCTIONS TO BIDDERS, ESTABLISH SOME OF THOSE BID DATES THAT ARE REQUIRED.

SO WE'LL BE READY TO GO OUT TO BID WITHIN JUST A MATTER OF, I MEAN, A WEEK OR SO.

SO AND THEN WHATEVER THE BIDDING PRACTICES ARE HERE, 30 DAYS OR SO.

SO IN THE NEXT 2 OR 3 COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE SHOULD BE BACK HERE PRESENTING BIDS.

OKAY, GREAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVING A SELECTION OF STREETS TO BE INCLUDED ON THE 2023 2024 OVERLAY LIST OF STREETS.

[7. Discussion and possible action on approving a selection of streets to be included on the 2023-2024 overlay list of streets.]

HEY, HECTOR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS OUR PROPOSED 2324 OVERLAYS.

WE'RE LOOKING TO GET IT UNDER TWO MILES.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THE ENTIRE LIST AND GET SOME INPUT FROM YOU ALL ON WHICH ONES YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE GET DONE THIS YEAR AND WHICH ONES WE MAY PUSH TO THE NEXT YEAR. SO THERE'S 3.42 MILES CURRENTLY AND WE HAVE TO GET IT DOWN TO UNDER AT TWO MILES, BUT POSSIBLY UNDER TWO BEING THAT THEY ARE INCREASING THE COST OF THE ASPHALT AND ALSO THE RENTAL, THE MILLING MACHINE AND ALL THOSE ITEMS. SO THE COST OF IT IS GOING UP.

SO MOST LIKELY WE'RE GOING TO GET QUITE A BIT LESS THAN TWO MILES.

YEAH. GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU BEFORE YOU GET TOO FAR INTO THIS.

TWO MILES, HOW DID WE ESTABLISH THE TWO MILES ON COST OR ON WHAT THE COUNTY WAS WILLING TO DO? I BELIEVE IT WAS. IT WAS ORIGINALLY JUST ON THE COST OF A FIXED PRICE THAT WE HAD AT THE AMOUNT THAT WE WERE GOING TO SPEND.

AND THAT EQUATED TO TWO MILES AT THE TIME, PROBABLY THE LAST TIME THE OVERLAY AGREEMENT WAS ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED LAST TIME.

WE RENEW IT EVERY YEAR, BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY NEGOTIATIONS INVOLVED IN IT.

SO, YES, IF THERE WAS, I IMAGINE IF WE INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WERE PUTTING TOWARDS IT, THEN YES, WE WOULD GET MORE MILEAGE.

WELL, I JUST KNOW IN THE PAST WE WERE TOLD THEY WOULD ONLY DO TWO MILES.

AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION WAS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ONE OF THESE STREETS THE.

SOUTH WALKER FROM BRYAN.

THE CITY LIMITS SIGN THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED BY PRECINCT FOUR.

PRECINCT TWO NORMALLY DOES ALL THE OVERLAYS.

AND SO PRECINCT TWO HAS BEEN LIMITING US TO TWO MILES EVERY YEAR.

BUT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE OUTSIDE OF THE THE TWO MILE LIMIT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS.

BUT I DO HEAR YOU ON COST.

THE OTHER ONE WAS OF THESE ROADS THAT YOU HAVE HERE IN THE NEXT ITEM WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

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DO YOU HAVE ANY PROPOSALS IN THAT 50,000 FOR ANY OF THESE STREETS? IN THE. OH, IN THE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.

YOU MEAN FROM THE NEXT ONE? NO, WE DID NOT. NOT ON THIS LIST, NO.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL WERE GROUNDED WITH THAT INFORMATION BEFORE WE GO FURTHER.

YES, THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO BE CONCRETE REPAIRS.

THESE ARE ALL ASPHALT MILLING AND RE ASPHALTING.

AND WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE COST FOR THE WALKER.

KIND OF RUPEES. OKAY.

IT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE. SO.

FORGIVE ME. I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND I HAVE THE BEST FEELING FOR GIFFORD LANG AND GIFFORD ROAD.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.

I'M SORRY. WELL, I GUESS I'M GETTING AT IS.

I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT THOSE AREAS FOR ACTUAL CONCRETE.

AND NOT.

UH, PIECEMEAL IT BY DOING AN OVERLAY THIS TIME AND THEN TURN AROUND AND RIP IT UP WHEN WE PERHAPS GO OUT FOR SOME.

SOME SORT OF FUNDING.

I FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE BECOMING HEAVILY TRAVELED AREAS AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BENEFIT FROM TAKING A MORE SUBSTANTIVE APPROACH OF OF.

I'M GOING TO SAY FIXING BECAUSE THAT SUGGESTS THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING A MORE SUBSTANTIVE LONG TERM INVESTMENT IN GIFFORD THAN.

THEN OVERLAY PROJECT. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT AS IT RELATES TO WHAT ROADS WERE INTERESTED, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED IN THAT IDEA.

MAYBE THAT'S TOO FAR OFF AND MAYBE THIS IS WORTH A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, BUT I WOULD HATE TO.

USE FUNDS AND TURN AROUND.

AND THEN. RIP IT UP TO TO LAY A MORE.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO TINSLEY.

FOR YEARS, THE COUNCIL SAID WE GOT PLANS TO REDO TINSLEY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT OVERLAY ON IT.

WE'RE GOING TO IT'S A CONCRETE STREET.

WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT.

AND SO IT JUST KEPT ON GOING AND GOING.

AND FINALLY SOMEONE FINALLY SAID, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO OVERLAY THE STREET BECAUSE IT'S JUST GETTING TOO BAD.

OKAY. SO I WOULD JUST CAUTION YOU ON GIFFORD LANE, I'M NOT MAKING A CASE FOR IT OR AGAINST IT.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS ONCE BEFORE AND IT BIT US.

I UNDERSTAND. AND MY IDEA WOULD BE THAT.

GIFFORD YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT DOING STREET IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST ON THE SOUTH SIDE A LITTLE BIT THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN. SO THAT'S MY IDEA.

BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY THAT ROAD WHEN WE DECIDE TO, PERHAPS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ALONG GIFFORD NOW IS JUST IT'S MAY BE MORE NECESSARY.

THAT'S ALL IS SILVER SADDLE A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROJECT NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SILVER SADDLE WAS SELECTED AT THE NOT THE THAT'S IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM THAT WE ARE.

DID YOU ALL ALREADY APPROVED.

WE'RE JUST MODIFYING ONE OF THE OTHER ROADS.

YES VICTOR ME ASKED WHEN WE.

ATTACK THE STREETS.

LOOK AT THE INTERSECTIONS TO.

WE PAVED SHENANGO STREET.

WE PAVED UP TO PEACH AND DIDN'T INCLUDE THE PEACH INTERSECTION.

AND THAT'S TURNING INTO A TANK TRAIL RIGHT THERE.

SO IF WE COULD HAVE GONE AHEAD AND CROSSED OVER PEACH STREET WITH SHENANGO, IT WOULD HAVE MADE THE INTERSECTION A LOT.

SO SO THAT'S JUST A FOR INSTANCE.

BUT LOOK AT THE INTERSECTIONS WHERE THESE STREETS.

BEGIN AND END BECAUSE BECAUSE SOMETIMES INTERSECTIONS ARE PRETTY ARE PRETTY ROUGH.

JUST GOING THROUGH GOING ON THROUGH YOUR LIST HERE.

LOOK BACK AT RAYBURN RIDGE.

ONCE YOU GET PAST RICHLAND CIRCLE, ITS CONCRETE STREET, AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE INCLUDED THE CONCRETE STREET IN THE LENGTH OF OF RAYBURN RIDGE. JUST REVIEW THAT, PLEASE, SIR.

OKAY, I WILL. THERE'S A LITTLE STUB STREET ON GIFFORD.

GO, CAITLYN.

CAITLYN LANE.

YES. ENSURE THAT THAT IS A CITY STREET FROM WHAT I'VE GATHERED, YES.

WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PLAT OF THAT SUBDIVISION OUT THERE, NONE OF THOSE STREETS WERE AT THE TIME THE COUNTY DID NOT ACCEPT THE STREETS OR DRAINAGE OR ANYTHING FOR MAINTENANCE.

THEY JUST ACCEPTED A PLAT.

AND LOOKING AT THAT STREET, IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A DRIVEWAY THAN EVER HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED AS A STREET.

MR. MAYOR MENTIONED THAT SOUTH WALKER STREET IS.

THAT'S WAY TOO MUCH.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT 30% OF THE WHOLE BUDGET.

FOR A STREET THAT THE MAJORITY OF IT GOES BEYOND THE RESIDENTS THAT I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO START AT BRYANT AND GO SOUTH ONCE YOU GET TO THE

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CURVE. I'D SAY STOP AND LET THE COUNTY KICK IN THE REST OF THE MONEY OUT THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SERVING ANY RESIDENTS OUT THERE TO SPEAK OF 1 OR 2, MAYBE DOWN THERE.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE FIND OUT ONCE WE GET FURTHER IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH WITH THE COMMISSIONER.

YEAH. SO JUST LOOKING AT ONE STREET THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IS THE SHADY STREET FROM WILKINS TO MILLER. THAT HAS GOT TO BE DONE.

I JOG THAT ALL THE TIME.

SHADY AND MCBRIDE ARE KIND OF TOP TWO ON MY LIST.

EMBARRASSING AT TIMES.

THEY'RE HORRIBLE. AND I'M GOING TO PUT WEST CEDAR ON THERE AS WELL.

THE TRASH. IT'S.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DRIVE THAT.

SAY WEST. CEDAR. WEST.

CEDAR. NORTH COLUMBIA. NORTH WALKER.

IT'S RIGHT RIGHT ON THE FAR WEST SIDE.

AND IT MAKES THE CURVE AROUND THE NORTH.

WALKER. BUT THE TRASH TRUCKS HAVE COMPLETELY DESTROYED IT RIGHT THROUGH THERE IN THAT INTERSECTION.

WANT TO KNOW. HECTOR, WHERE DID THE LIST COME FROM THIS HOUR? OBSERVATION. SOME OF THESE WERE LEFT OFF FROM LAST YEAR, AND SOME OF THEM ARE WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES THAT WE'VE NOTICED OUT IN THE FIELD.

MUM, CAN YOU GO UP TO THE.

YEAH. COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.

WE'LL. WE'LL MAKE IT FAST.

I'M BARBARA SIMMONS. I LIVE ON SILVER SADDLE DRIVE.

YES, MA'AM. AND I JUST HAD THE QUESTION, CAN CITIZENS CONTRIBUTE TO THE LIST FOR CONSIDERATION? A LOT OF THE TIMES THIS IS THE FROM CITIZENS COMPLAINTS THAT PUBLIC WORKS FIELDS AND THEN THEY TAKE THAT AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR LIST, THEY OWE THE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT THIS STREET AND THE STREET.

SO THAT'S HOW IT'S KIND OF A COMBINATION.

THEY DRIVE THOSE ROADS ALL THE TIME, SO THEY SEE THEM AND SOMETIMES PD PUTS IN THEIR OBSERVATIONS AS WELL.

SO IT'S KIND OF A GROUP EFFORT.

AND IS THE COUNTY GOING TO DO SOUTH VALDERAS NEXT TO CENTRAL ELEMENTARY? THAT GOES TO MAGNOLIA.

OH, THE COUNTY WILL ONLY OVERLAY WHAT WHAT WE'VE ASKED THEM.

AND IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THEIR THEIR PROJECT THAT THEY HAVE GOING, MOST OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS ALREADY DONE ON THE STREETS.

SO YOU WON'T SEE THAT.

I WAS CURIOUS SINCE SURELY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC THERE? YES, JUST 100% POTHOLES.

YOU YOU BEAT ME TO ONE OF MY NEXT QUESTIONS FOR HECTOR.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A FEW OF THESE STREETS THAT ARE EVEN WORSE OFF THAN SOME OF THESE, AND MOST OF THEM ARE IN THIS VICINITY RIGHT HERE.

OR ARE WE JUST PUTTING THOSE ON HOLD FOR NOW WITH LOCUST AND ARCOLA AND.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT SHENANGO THE HAS APPROACHED US ABOUT LOCUST, ABOUT THEM DOING IT, BUT THEY WANT TO WAIT FOR THE COURTHOUSE CONSTRUCTION.

SO THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DOING SOME OF THE STUFF AROUND THE COURTHOUSE.

I THINK IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THEIR END OF STATE BUDGET IS.

RIGHT? YEAH, I GOT A SIMILAR STORY, BUT THEN AT THE END OF STATE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE FEASIBLE.

THEY DID APPROACH US ABOUT LOCUST.

WE HAD A CONVERSATION FROM VALDEZ EAST, COUPLE OF BLOCKS.

THANK YOU. WHAT ABOUT SHENANGO AND ARCOLA? THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT AND US PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, STAFF OF PUBLIC WORKS.

WE WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION GOT DONE BEFORE WE PUT ANY MONEY INTO IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S MOST LIKELY GOING TO GET DAMAGED DURING CONSTRUCTION AGAIN.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES WE WERE PLANNING ON PUTTING ON THE NEXT LIST AND ARCOLA OR ORANGE RIGHT HERE.

AND ALSO THOSE ONES LIKE SHENANGO, ARCOLA IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 60, 70FT WIDE STREETS.

SO YOU GET A WHOLE LOT LESS RIGHT, BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF THEM.

SO. WELL, MY VOTES RIGHT NOW ARE SHADY WEST CEDAR MCBRIDE FOR SURE.

UM. SO.

UH COUNCILMAN. BOOTH SOUTH WALKER CAME UP BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER OF PRECINCT FOUR REACHED OUT AND SAID, HEY THERE, THEY'RE REDOING 290, 290 OUT THERE, BUT THEY'RE STOPPING AT THE CITY LIMIT SIGN.

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AND THEY SAID, IS THE CITY WILLING TO JOIN IN? AND THEY CAN THEY CAN GO ON.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY PUT ON HERE, BRIAN, TO THE CITY LIMIT SIGN.

THE SPEED LIMIT SIGN ACTUALLY HAS MOVED IT.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE HAVE WE HAVEN'T OVERLAID THAT STREET.

DID Y'ALL LOOK UP THE RECORDS OF WHEN THAT WAS LAST OVERLAID? I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING ON IT.

SO COMMISSIONER SAID IT WAS OVER 30 YEARS IN SOME SPOTS.

I WOULD BELIEVE HIM, YES, BUT.

IT'S. IT'S FALLING.

IT'S FALLING APART WITH THE TRAFFIC COMING AROUND THERE.

ALL THOSE HOUSES GOING AROUND.

THEY USE THAT AS A AS A PASS OVER TO THE HIGHWAY.

QUITE OFTEN, YES.

THE AMBULANCE SERVICE USES THAT ROAD.

THE FIRE SERVICE USES THAT ROAD.

SO IT GETS TRAVELED QUITE A BIT.

NOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN ALL BE DONE IN ONE FELL SWOOP.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL.

BUT I DO THINK AND I DO AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT THAT IT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE TO START ON THE FROM THE BRIAN TO THE CURVE SIDE FIRST, BUT THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE A PRETTY GOOD DISTANCE BETWEEN WHERE WE STOP AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO STOP.

SO WE'LL JUST HAVE UNIMPROVED AT THAT OR.

IT'S IMPROVED, BUT VERY LOOSELY.

SO, HECTOR, LET'S PULL THAT ONE SEPARATED FROM THIS, BUT KEEP IT ON THE ON THE FORM FOR VISIBILITY.

SO WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO OR FUNDING OR.

OKAY OR WHATEVER AMOUNT, BUT WE'LL JUST WORK ON GETTING THE QUOTE AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.

CORRECT. AND FOCUS ON THE NORMAL OVERLAY.

EAST BRONCO BEND.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WAS OVERLAID? WELL, IT HAS BEEN SOME YEARS.

I COULDN'T FIND AN OLD OVERLAY LIST THAT WE HAD WITH IT ON THERE.

SO BUT I FIGURED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING SILVER SADDLE AND PROVING THAT ROAD THERE.

SO COMPLETING BRONCO BEN KIND OF COMPLETE THE AREA THERE.

SO ACTOR IF YOU PULL THE THE WALKER ONE OUT SOUTH WALKER WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE TOTAL? YOU'RE STILL OVER ABOUT 4000FT.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 0.7 MILES OF THAT 3300 K GIFFORD LANE OFF.

JUST FOR A MOMENT.

OKAY. WELL, AS THEY LIKE TO SAY.

WELL, WHERE'S WILKINS? THAT'S HEAVY TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE.

YES. THAT'S THE ROAD THAT GOES TO OR BACK TO ANCHORAGE ROAD RIGHT ON THE SIDE OF BUCKY'S.

YES, THAT ONE'S GETTING PRETTY BAD FAST.

YEAH. I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN THE LAST 6 TO 8 MONTHS THAT I'VE FELT LIKE THE ROAD HAS JUST GOTTEN REALLY BAD.

YEAH, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH ASPHALT.

ONCE A SECTION GETS WEAK, IT STARTS GOING.

IT MOVES PRETTY QUICKLY.

IT STARTS DETERIORATING.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT GIFFORD IS THE ONLY ONE ON HERE FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN TO REALLY.

WORN AN ANCHOR.

I CAN SEE THAT ONE.

THAT'S BAD.

OKAY. YEAH.

THAT'S GOT SOME BAD SPOTS TOO.

THAT'S A MAIN ROUTE INTO TOWN.

PEOPLE COME IN, COME DOWN ANCHOR ROAD, COME IN TO HIT THE LOOP THERE NOW FOR ANOTHER DAY.

I'D LIKE TO. WE NEED SOME.

IF YOU TELL PEOPLE TO GO TO WARREN STREET, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT YOU LIKE YOU'RE SPEAKING A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE.

OKAY. WE GOT A LITTLE SECTION OF STREET THERE BETWEEN I GUESS IT'S WILKINS AND THE LOOP.

THAT'S WARREN STREET.

OR I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO DEFINE WHERE IT IS.

I'D LIKE TO CALL ANCHOR ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE LOOP AND THEN FROM THERE, EAST TO CEDAR STREET.

AND NOT TO HURT ANYBODY'S FEELINGS, BUT GET RID OF WARREN BECAUSE IT JUST IT CONFUSES ME.

I GUESS IT'S IN THE GPS SYSTEM OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. WHO LIVES ON WARREN STREET? I GUESS I COULD GO LOOK AND SEE, BUT THERE'S SOME DRIVEWAYS OFF OF IT.

BUT THEY'RE THERE. ANY FRONT HOUSES? I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANYBODY ADDRESSED ON THAT SECTION.

YEAH, BUT YES, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO CHANGING THAT.

YEAH. WE HAVE TO POST IT OR ANYTHING.

WE'D HAVE TO TAKE ACTION AS A COUNCIL.

THAT'S A THAT'S A BE AN ORDNANCE DEALER.

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I'M OKAY WITH THAT. ARE ANY OF THE HEAVY TRUCKS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION GOING DOWN THAT SECTION? FOR THE COURTHOUSE.

PROBABLY. YEAH, THERE'S PROBABLY CONCRETE TRUCKS.

PROBABLY EVERY DAY.

YEAH. SO THAT MIGHT BE.

I HATE PUTTING IT OFF LONGER SINCE IT IS REALLY ROUGH, BUT.

I'D HATE ALSO TO DO IT.

AND THEN IT JUST. IT HEAVILY TRAVELED.

STILL THERE.

FINISHED. WELL, I'M NOT SAYING THIS AS A BAD THING, BUT I LOOKED UP THE VOTER REGISTERED VOTERS LIST FOR ADDRESSES.

NOBODY'S ON ONE.

I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET VOTES.

SO I'M SAYING THAT WAS MY QUICK, EASY REFERENCE.

THERE'S NOBODY REGISTERED ON THAT.

USUALLY THAT'S HOW I FIND OUT THIS HOUSES OVER THERE.

THEY MAY COMPLAIN. THEY MAY NOT VOTE.

QUICK, EASY WAY TO FIND OUT.

ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANT TO WAIT? I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST.

JUST. WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THIS OVERLAY UNTIL PROBABLY WHAT, Q 3 OR 4 OF NEXT YEAR? YES. SO THEY'LL BE WRAPPED UP.

THEY'LL BE DONE. OKAY.

YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE TRUCKS.

YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO SEE TRUCKS, THOUGH.

I MEAN, IT'S A MAIN ARTERY INTO THE TOWN.

SO GETTING THE TOWN.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT ROADS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

UM. WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS.

COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHICH ONES GET ATTENTION.

I MEAN, I CERTAINLY LIKE TO THE IDEA OF TRYING TO FIND SOME.

SPREADING IT AROUND TOWN.

AND THAT'S CERTAINLY PROBABLY THE POLITICAL ANSWER.

THE I'D LIKE US TO SEE ABOUT DIRECTING TO THOSE STREETS THAT REALLY JUST HAVE NEED IT.

AND EVEN IF THAT HAPPENS TO BE IN THE MORE CENTRAL.

HISTORIC DISTRICT OF ANGLETON, THEN JUST SO BE IT.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

I WILL SAY ONE STREET THAT WE DID MENTION SOUTH IS WINE STREET.

THAT'S TRUE. AND THAT STREET IS IN VERY BAD SHAPE.

BUT IT'S MOSTLY THE BW SERVICES, WHOEVER, MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE IT.

BUT YEAH, IT IS IN REAL BAD SHAPE.

OKAY. SO LET'S START FROM THE RIGHT.

MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, WILL YOU GIVE US YOUR TOP FOUR AND WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE, SEE WHAT WE HAVE? I'M JUST GOING TO STICK TO TWO OR.

EXCUSE ME. YEAH, I'M GONNA JUST STICK TO TWO, AND THAT'S SHADY.

AND MCBRIDE. THAT'S.

AREAS THAT I'M PERSONALLY FAMILIAR WITH AND WHICH ONES? SHADY. SHADY AND MCBRIDE.

OKAY. I.

THROW A THIRD ONE. I WILL SAY ROCK ISLAND.

BUT THAT'S JUST.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN.

ROBERTS. WILKINS.

JD. LANE AND ANCHOR.

OKAY. I LIKE YOUR CHOICES.

NO, MISS WILKINS.

EICHER ROAD.

THOSE ARE THE TWO TOP ONES.

IT'S LIKE TO SEE SOUTH WALKER DOWN TO THE CURVE.

FROM BRYAN DOWN TO THE CURVE.

THE BAIL ON THE FOURTH ONE ON YOU.

SHADY LANE IN.

OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN GORA.

MHM. YEAH.

WILKINS. SHADY LANE.

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MHM. ANCHOR WARREN.

OR VICE VERSA.

YEAH, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN WILKINS, ANCHOR SHADY.

BUT I'D LIKE TO THROW IN EAST BRONCO BEN, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO FIX SILVER SADDLE.

JUST. THAT WAS A SMOOTH TRANSITION.

OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.

YOU. IF YOU COULD DO THAT, YOU WOULD.

ESSENTIALLY FIX ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL AT ONE TIME.

I MEAN, IT SHOULD BE GOOD FOR A LONG TIME.

WELL, I SAY A LONG TIME FOR AS LONG AS 25 PLUS ISH AS ASPHALT HOLDS.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT EAST BRONCO BIN IS USES A CUT THROUGH.

IT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAFFIC THAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE.

IT DOES HAVE A SQUEEZE POINT, THOUGH, WHERE IT'S NOT TOO LATE.

OH, SILVER SADDLE.

NO. SQUEEZES DOWN.

SUPER SHUTTLE IS HERE.

BRONCO AND HEADING TOWARDS BOUNDARIES.

BEFORE YOU GET TO. SQUEEZES ONE LINE.

OKAY. YEAH, I GET A LOT OF.

BUT WE CAN'T FIX THAT UNDER THE OVERLAY, RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH.

OKAY. MY MY LIST IS SHADY.

MCBRIDE, ANCHOR.

AND I DO WANT SOUTH WALKER, BUT WE'RE PULLING THAT FROM THIS LIST RIGHT NOW.

SO THIS SHOULD BE HANDLED SEPARATELY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.

SO EITHER WAYNE OR GIFFORD LANE.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

SO LET US DO THIS.

LET US REVISE THE LIST BASED OFF OF WHAT YOU ALL SAID.

YEP. WE'LL PULL THE SOUTH WALKER PIECE, JUST SEPARATE IT OUT AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER AS WE GET COSTS AND STUFF AND THEN COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND TALK FUNDING AND CAN YOU BREAK UP SOUTH WALKER I MEAN, WE GOT.

YES. OKAY.

I THINK WE LEFT ENOUGH.

LENGTHEN IN TO WHERE Y'ALL CAN PROBABLY PUT A COUPLE SMALLER PROJECTS IN THERE.

YEAH. YEAH. YES. ALSO, YEAH.

LIKE I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOU COME BACK AND SAY THESE ARE THE HEAVILY TRAFFICKED STREETS BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY WITH THE WITH THE CAR.

AUTOMOBILE VEHICLE, DAILY VEHICLE COUNTS, IF YOU WANT TO GUESS AT IT.

YES. AND THESE STREETS ARE JUST TORN UP.

THEY NEED TO BE FIXED.

I'M GOING TO ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO TAKE Y'ALL'S CONGLOMERATED PRIORITY LIST AND THEN WHATEVER IS LEFT OF THIS LIST WILL BE DOWN TOWARD THE BOTTOM.

SO IF WE NEED TO CUT, WE CAN CUT THOSE THAT AREN'T MENTIONED.

I FORGOT ONE WEST CEDAR.

OKAY, THAT IS.

OH, YEAH. AND THAT WAS NOT ABOUT PERISHING FOR ME AND SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY RATTY.

IT'S BAD. WOULD BE NICE.

UM. YEAH, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL DESERVING TO BE OVERLAID, BUT WHAT WOULD BE NICE REALLY, HECTOR, IN THE FUTURE IS IF YOU HAVE YOUR LIST AND YOU CAN SHOW HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN ON THE LIST SO WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR NOW, THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR NOW, AND WE CAN START KNOCKING THEM OFF SO THAT THEY'RE GETTING DONE A LOT FASTER BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF THIS LIST VERSUS THE LAST YEAR'S LIST VERSUS THE YEAR BEFORE WE CAN DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. YOU'LL NOTICE THIS.

JUST ESPOUSE HER A LITTLE BIT.

GO FOR IT. IN THE CITY WHERE YOU HAVE STREETS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO LARGE DITCHES.

YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE SAME SITUATION THAT YOU'RE FINDING OUT IN THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY IS ADDRESSING THIS ALL THE TIME.

THE EDGES OF THE ROAD ARE BREAKING OFF AND IT'S DUE TO THE THE WEDDING AND IT'S SHRINKING AND DRYING AND WETTING AND DRYING AND THEY JUST FALL APART. SO THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, DRYING AND DRYING AND DRYING AND THE CLAYS ARE SHRINKING UP AND THE CRACKS ARE GETTING BIGGER.

SO YOU'RE FINDING THEM GOING OUT THERE, FILLING UP CRACKS AND DOING DOING PROJECTS IN THERE ALONG THESE BIG DITCHES.

NOT SO MUCH THE SMALLER ONES, BUT THE BIGGER, BIGGER DITCHES CAUSE THE BIGGER PROBLEMS. OKAY. COUNSEL ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM?

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I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE BACK FIGURE OUT THE ONES AND THEN COME BACK TO US.

YES. YES. WE'LL COME BACK WITH A FINAL LIST AND SOME PRICING.

GREAT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVISED LIST OF STREETS FOR THE STREET BOND PROJECT.

[8. Discussion and possible action on the revised list of streets for the Street Bond Project - Package 3]

PACKAGE THREE.

OKAY, SO WE WANTED TO BRING THIS ONE BACK BASED ON THE PARRISH STREET.

I KNOW WE HAD A WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

I KNOW ORIGINALLY WE WANTED TO GO FROM LIVE OAK TO MILLER, AND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, TWO REASONS FOR US BRINGING THIS BACK FOR THE CHANGE.

NUMBER ONE, GOING FROM LIVE OAK TO MILLER WOULDN'T GIVE US THE CURB AND GUTTER STREET THAT WE REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, STICK TO AS ONE OF OUR STANDARDS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO REQUIRE MORE DOWNSTREAM DRAINAGE WORK.

BUT GOING FROM LIVE OAK TO 35 ALONG PARRISH WILL GIVE US THE CURB AND GUTTER STREET WE WANT.

AND ALSO I THINK IT'LL GIVE US A IMPROVEMENT IN THE AREA WHERE THERE'S POTENTIALLY SOMETHING COMING IN THE FUTURE THAT WE MAY WANT TO ACCOMMODATE AS IT THAT'S GOING TO REALLY SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT BACK TO SEE IF THAT SWITCH, IF YOU ALL WANTED TO MAKE THAT SWITCH AND THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON IT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY PURPOSE OF BRINGING THIS BACK.

I DO. THAT'S GREAT NEWS TO HEAR BECAUSE IT IS FLOWING SOUTH, RIGHT? YES. NO, THAT'S GREAT.

I'M HAPPY WITH THAT AS WELL.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF.

TRYING TO SET A STANDARD AND LIVE UP TO THAT STANDARD AND.

ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEFINITELY.

BE AN UPGRADE. THAT'S GREAT.

QUESTION IS, ARE YOU GOING TO STOP IT BEFORE THE LIVE OAK INTERSECTION OR ARE YOU GOING TO INCLUDE THE INTERSECTION IN THIS BID? PLEASE INCLUDE THE INTERSECTION.

THANK YOU. THAT'S THE EASIER WAY TO DO IT.

YOU CAN GO FROM THERE ON OUT WITHOUT THE REBUILD THE INTERSECTION IN THE FUTURE.

ALL RIGHTY. A COUPLE EXTRA A FEW THOUSAND MORE DOLLARS TODAY AND NOT HAVE TO DISRUPT THE WHOLE WORLD IN THE FUTURE IF YOU EXTEND IT WHATEVER DIRECTION. OKAY.

BECAUSE THAT SETS US UP FOR THE OTHER AREAS.

SO I THINK WE ALL WE NEED IS A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL STREET BOND PACKAGE TO INCLUDE THE.

THE SHORT PORTION.

I MEAN, IS IT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL OR SUBSTITUTE I THOUGHT WE WERE EXCHANGING.

WELL, IT IS AN ADDITIONAL FROM 1.7 MILLION FOR THE ONE SECTION TO 2 MILLION FOR THE OTHER SECTION.

SILVER SADDLE REMAINS THE SAME.

SILVER SADDLE. 300,000 FOR OTHER STUFF.

YEAH. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND IT TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL $300,000 TO.

SECOND. SORRY.

I'M THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND AND A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL TO AMEND OUR STREET BOND PACKAGE THREE TO SWITCH FROM THE PARRISH STREET LIVE OAK TO MILLER TO PARRISH STREET LIVE OAK TO SOUTH HIGHWAY 35, INCLUDING THE INTERSECTION AT LIVE OAK.

BEFORE WE GO ON.

I'M NOT. I'M JUST SAYING.

YOU CAN STOP ME IF I'M OFF TOPIC, BUT MR. PHILLIPS TALKING ABOUT COLONY DRIVE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE IN HERE.

THIS MIGHT BE THE FUNDING SOURCE TO ADDRESS THE SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTING.

HOW ABOUT BRINGING THIS BACK AS AN AGENDA ITEM? YEAH, OF COURSE.

YEAH. BUT WE'LL GET AN UPDATED QUOTE BECAUSE THAT QUOTE IS FROM A YEAR AGO.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK FOR.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POWER.

THAT'S RIGHT. DO YOU WANT ME TO TRY TO PROPOSE SOMETHING ON THE SOLAR SIDE? SOLAR WOULD BE POSSIBLE.

IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO LOOK THE SAME AS THE REST OF THE STREETS.

WELL, THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I HAVE TO PUT THEM WHERE THE TREES, THE LETTUCE, THE.

MR. PHILLIPS HAS COME AND TALKED TO ME AND I SAID, LOOK, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN GO BACK AND REDO WHAT YOU'VE GOT.

THOSE. THOSE DECORATIVE LAMPS.

THAT NOBODY MAINTAIN THEM.

THAT'S NOT THAT SHOULDN'T FALL ON THE CITY.

I SUGGEST YOU GET SOLAR LIGHTS OUT THERE WHERE THEY'LL WORK TO GIVE.

GIVE THIS, GIVE THEM GIVE THEM STREET LIGHTS.

I'M NOT. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ASKING FOR ANYTHING.

I'M SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF AND I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE.

WELL, IT'S FUNDING FOR THIS COULD BE USED OUT OF THIS FUNDING PACKAGE TALKING ABOUT LIGHTING AND.

OKAY I'LL BE QUIET. SIDEWALKS.

WE ALL TALKED ABOUT LIGHTING.

THAT'S HOW I WAS. THAT'S HOW I WAS JUSTIFYING IT.

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ALL RIGHT, WHY DON'T WE JUST BRING IT BACK? YEAH. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE STAFF GUIDANCE.

WE'LL COME BACK AND RECOMMEND SOME OPTIONS.

THANK YOU. CLEAR ME UP ON THIS.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE STREETS.

WHAT WHAT ITEMS ARE WE TELLING THEM TO DO TONIGHT? STRETCH ARMSTRONG OVER THERE.

STRETCH. ONE, TWO, ONE, TWO, THREE.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARRISH STREET.

LIVE OAK OR LIVE OAK TO 35.

YES, SIR. THE 50,000 IN IMPROVEMENTS, THE MAINTENANCE PROJECT, THE VERY FIRST SECTION.

OKAY. AND THEN THERE WAS THE SILVER.

SILVER SADDLE.

OKAY. EAST SIDE 205 TWO BRONCO.

BEN OKAY. BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME OTHER ITEMS LISTED IN HERE.

THAT'S CORRECT. MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT.

YES, THOSE AREN'T ON THE TABLE TONIGHT.

YEAH, THE MOTION IS JUST TO ADD.

ADD THAT SECTION, INCLUDING THE INTERSECTION.

OKAY. YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. NOW THAT I'VE BEEN WRANGLED BACK IN, WE WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, HECTOR. I SAW THE RELEVANCE.

I'M HAPPY ABOUT IT. I'M FUNDING OUT OF THAT SOURCE.

I'M TALKING HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

OH, THAT'S GREAT. I'M EXCITED.

ALL RIGHT. NUMBER NINE, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE FUNDING FROM ABLC OR KNOWN AS ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION FUND BALANCE TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF

[9. Discussion and possible action to approve funding from Angleton Better Living Corporation (ABLC) fund balance to approve the selection of contractor with the lowest bid in response to the City's request for Bid No. 2023-05 Hauling of Clay, Sand, Earthen cover Material & Stockpiling, from Freedom Park northern tract to BG Peck Soccer Complex and approve a contract with the selected contractor. ]

CONTRACTOR WITH THE LOWEST BID IN RESPONSE TO THE CITY'S REQUEST FOR BID.

NUMBER 202305 HAULING OF CLAY, SAND, EARTHEN COVER MATERIAL AND STOCKPILING FROM FREEDOM PARK NORTHERN TRACT TO BG SOCCER COMPLEX AND APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH THE SELECTED CONTRACTOR.

MEGAN YES, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

AND EVERYTHING SEEMS WORDY TODAY.

WE WANTED TO BE THOROUGH.

SO ON JUNE 13TH WE DID BRING THIS ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION, AT WHICH POINT WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO PURSUE FUNDS FROM ABLC. WE DID TAKE THIS ITEM TO ABLC ON JUNE 20TH.

THEY WANTED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AT THAT MEETING OF WHAT THEIR EXISTING FUND BALANCE WAS.

I CAN REPORT THAT AS OF TO DATE WE DID SEND AN EMAIL OUT TO ABLC THAT FUND BALANCE IS SITTING AT $245,217.

WE ALSO MET WITH ABLC LAST NIGHT TO DISCUSS THE FUNDING AND THE BIDS RECEIVED.

THIS BID WAS POSTED AND PUBLISHED JULY 1ST AND SECOND AND AGAIN ON JULY 8TH AND NINTH.

THE BID OPENING WAS MONDAY, JULY 17TH.

WE DID RECEIVE THREE BIDS THAT'S ENCLOSED IN YOUR PACKET AND WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU BECAUSE WE DID RECEIVE FUNDING FROM ABLC YESTERDAY EVENING TO BE TAKEN OUT OF ABLC CONTINGENCY, WHICH SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW WE DO HAVE COMMITTED FUNDS.

WHAT IS BUDGETED THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR ABLC CONTINGENCY WAS $160,099.

WE HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED ABOUT $144,000 TO OTHER PROJECTS.

SO THIS AMOUNT WILL EXCEED THE CONTINGENCY AND WILL ULTIMATELY HIT THE FUND BALANCE.

ABLC UNDERSTOOD AND APPROVED THOSE FUNDS.

AND SO TONIGHT WE ARE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE EXPENDITURE OF THOSE FUNDS AND APPROVAL TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT.

I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE CONTRACTORS HERE ARE PRESENT NEWBIE ENTERPRISE.

WE HAVE CHAD AND SARAH HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CONTRACTORS, THEY ARE A LOCAL CONTRACTOR.

WE DID REACH OUT TO REFERENCES THAT THEY INCLUDED IN THEIR BID PACKET INFORMATION.

THE REFERENCES THAT WE DID RECEIVE CAME BACK VERY POSITIVE.

THEY'VE DONE MUCH LARGER PROJECTS.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ABLC FELT THAT THEY COULD EXECUTE.

GREAT. FIRST THANK YOU TO ABC FOR TAKING THE TIME YESTERDAY TO TO MEET AND GO THROUGH THIS.

I APOLOGIZE. I WASN'T THERE.

UM. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE REST OF THE DIRT? WITH RESPECT TO WHAT IS REMAINING AT THE SITE.

FROM THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT, THEY WILL TAKE IT TO THEIR SITE BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY HAVE MET THEIR 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN, SO THEY WOULD JUST BUILD UP THEIR EXISTING SITE.

THEIR DEVELOPMENT IN THE SKY.

WE'LL HAVE A MOUNTAIN IN ANGLETON.

WHEN ROSE GREEN.

PLATEAU. AND AS A REMINDER TO COUNCIL ALSO, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE HAULING AND STOCKPILING.

SO WE TOO WILL HAVE A A LARGE STOCKPILE AT ONE OF OUR CITY FACILITIES UNTIL ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE BUDGETED TO ACTUALLY PLACE THE

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DIRT ON THE FIELDS PROPERLY.

GRADE IT FOR.

FUTURE FIELD IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HOST OUR TEMPORARY KING IN THE MOUNTAIN.

COMPETITION. WE CERTAINLY COULD CAPTURE THE FLAG.

IT COULD BE A FUNDRAISER. HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE SOCCER ASSOCIATION? LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS COMING.

SO WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH JUSTIN THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, SINCE IT WAS APPROVED LAST NIGHT, I HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO DUSTIN.

WE WERE WAITING FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT, BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY LET THEM KNOW.

AND YES, WE'VE BEEN MAINTAINING COMMUNICATION.

HE UNDERSTANDS THE SITE LOCATION FOR THE STOCKPILING.

WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID UTILIZING ANY OF THE PARKING SPACES OR OF COURSE, WHERE THE EXISTING FIELDS ARE.

SO HE IS AWARE OF WHERE WE'RE STOCKPILING THAT.

AND WHERE IS THAT? IT IS BASICALLY THE FURTHEST POINT.

OH, ACTUALLY ON PAGE.

THAT'S IN THERE. THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET HERE.

COME ON, JOHN. BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE BID PACKET, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

MAYBE ON SIX 2121.

WE'RE SO IT'S JUST SOUTH.

OF THE PARK.

GOT IT? YES. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO.

WORK ON IS AN ALTERNATE ENTRY LOCATION.

WE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT GOING THROUGH THE BRAZORIA COUNTY FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION, THEY DO NOT HAVE A CULVERT WHERE WE INITIALLY THOUGHT THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE AN ENTRANCE.

SO BUT THERE IS A GATED ENTRANCE, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH OF THE PARK THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE IF WE WERE ABLE TO CONNECT AND MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY TIME SENSITIVE PROJECT.

I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THE ROADS.

THAT WAS ALSO A CONCERN THAT ABC BROUGHT UP AS WELL AND WAS A CONCERN TO THE CONTRACTORS.

THAT WAS AN RFI DURING THE PUBLICATION OF THE PROPOSAL.

SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT PLANNED ON BIDDING ON THIS PROJECT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REPAIRS OF THE ROAD.

CHRIS AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD CONTRACTORS BIDDING ON THIS AND WE THEN SENT OUT AN ADDENDUM WHICH IS ALSO IN YOUR PACKET HERE, THAT NOTED THAT CONTRACTORS WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTUAL ROAD REPAIRS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS.

WHETHER WE CHOOSE A DIFFERENT ROUTE OR WE PLAN TO ADDRESS WHATEVER DAMAGES, WHATEVER IMPACTS WE HAVE WITH THE HAULING OF THIS DIRT.

SO IS THIS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY THAT WE'RE CALLING OR SEVEN DAYS A WEEK OR I WILL TURN THAT QUESTION OVER TO NEWBIE ENTERPRISES. HE DID DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE THOUGHT, HOW QUICKLY HE COULD COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

SO I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.

CHAD, DO YOU WANT TO. PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

I'LL RUN IT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK OR FIVE.

BUT IT'S DICTATED BY WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LOAD THEIR TRUCKS.

THROUGH. AND I THOUGHT MAYBE WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION ALREADY.

OKAY. BUT THEY'LL STILL BE LOADING THEIR TRUCKS AT THE SAME TIME.

RIGHT. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT DURING THIS WHOLE TIME.

AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAINTAIN CONTACT WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE NOT DEMOBILIZED FROM FREEDOM PARK.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY HAVE NOT.

BUT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE WITH RESPECT TO WHERE THEY ARE IN THAT PROCESS.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY, TOO, WILL BE CONTINUING TO LOAD DIRT IF THEY HAVE IT IN EXCESS OF WHAT IS IN THIS CONTRACT.

SO WE INVESTIGATED ALL THE AREAS AROUND HERE.

I MEAN, WHO IS IT? YEAH, WHO IS IT THAT OWNS THE STASSNEY RANCH NOW? IT'S JUST. IT'S STILL.

IT'S STILL THAT. IS IT STILL THE STASSNEY? THEY DIDN'T. SO THE OTHER GROUP DIDN'T BUY IT YET.

MIGHT BE WORTH REACHING OUT TO THE STANDS AND SEEING IF YOU COULD USE THEIR PASTURE AS A.

A WAY TO GET THROUGH AND BACK TO THAT STOCKPILING LOCATION.

YOU COULD BUILD A TEMPORARY ACCESS ALONG THAT FENCE RIGHT THERE.

AND COME ACROSS RIGHT THERE.

I MEAN, THIS IS ALL PASTURE LAND RIGHT HERE, PRETTY MUCH ACCESSIBLE.

WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO THEM.

THE ONLY CONCERN STAFF WOULD HAVE IS THE WHERE CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT IS AND THE DEMOBILIZATION PROCESS.

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SO IF WE LOSE A WINDOW BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH STASSNEY TO UTILIZE THEIR LAND AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE THE ONLY CONCERNS THAT I'D HAVE.

AND DELAYING. IT'S ALSO UNIMPROVED PASTURE LAND.

YEAH, IT'S UNIMPROVED, BUT.

I'M PRETTY DRY. IT'S THOSE ARE HEAVY TRUCKS.

IT'S GOING TO BE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOADED DOWN.

OKAY. JUST TRYING TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE TO USING THAT ROAD.

WE JUST OVERLAID THAT ROAD.

SO. KEEP THAT IN MIND.

YOU'RE HOLDING MY TRUCKLOAD.

ARE YOU HOLDING BY CUBIC YARDS? THE YARD. OKAY.

I MEAN, THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE'S A ROADWAY LIMIT TO HOW MUCH YOU CAN HAUL AT ONE TIME TONNAGE.

SO. OKAY.

COUNCIL. OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FUNDING FROM ABC FOR THE.

CONTRACT FOR HAULING DIRT.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. CAN YOU AMEND THAT TO THE SELECTION OF THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR AND MENTION THE SELECTION OF THE CONTRACTOR? YES. WITH THE SELECTION OF NEW CONSTRUCTION OR NEW ENTERPRISE.

AND I SECOND IT WITH THE AMENDMENT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND WITH THE SELECTION OF NEWBY ENTERPRISES FOR THE HAULING OF THE DIRT FROM FREEDOM PARK TO BG PECK SOCCER PARK COMPLEX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HOW QUICKLY CAN THE AGREEMENT BE? SIGNED. TONIGHT? TONIGHT. OKAY.

AND I DO THINK WE HAVE A NOTICE OF AWARD AND A NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR TOMORROW OR.

THIS WEEK. AS SOON AS WE HEAR BACK FROM CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THAT IS KIND OF OUR TRIGGER OF OUR START DATE.

WE NEED TO THE TWO REPLIES THAT I HAVE ARE OUT OF OFFICE REPLIES.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE HEADED THEIR WAY.

BUT YES SIR, WE CAN START AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YOU GOT PERFECT DIGGING AND HAULING WEATHER RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, SURE.

OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER TEN DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 202302725010.

[10. Discussion and possible action on approving Ordinance No. 20230725-010 amending Chapter 13, Miscellaneous Offenses, Article I. of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Angleton; providing noise and sound level regulations; repealing Section 13-9, use of amplifying devices, clause; repealing Section 13-12, silly string, stinkbombs, smokebombs, poppers or noisemakers, clause; providing for severability; providing for repeal; providing for a penalty, and providing an effective date.]

AMENDING CHAPTER 13 MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES.

ARTICLE ONE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON PROVIDING NOISE AND SOUND LEVEL REGULATIONS REPEALING SECTION 13 DASH NINE USE OF AMPLIFYING DEVICES CLAUSE REPEALING SECTION 1312 SILLY STRING STINK BOMBS, SMOKE BOMBS, POPPERS OR NOISEMAKERS CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL, PROVIDING FOR PENALTY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

NEVER THOUGHT I'D EVER READ THAT IN AN ORDINANCE.

THE ORDINANCE NOW, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S BEING REPEALED.

SO WE'RE BACK BECAUSE WE HAD A TOWN HALL WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

YES. THERE'S SOME OPTIONS AND STUFF AND THINGS WERE DISCUSSED.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.

SO CAN I JUST MENTION SOMETHING FOLLOWING UP WITH OUR DISCUSSION BEFORE THE MEETING? MAYOR? YES.

SO AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT NEW LAWS COMING DOWN THE PIKE ON IF WE PASS.

A WOMAN SAYS THEY SHOULDN'T EXCEED THE AUTHORITY THAT'S GIVEN TO US BY THE STATE.

SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR PRELIMINARY QUESTION WAS ON THE DECIBEL LEVEL.

THE DECIBEL LEVEL MATCHES WHAT'S STATE LAW AND THE PENAL CODE.

BUT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AUTHORIZES YOUR CITY, ANY ANY MUNICIPALITY TO ENFORCE AND PASS NUISANCE ORDINANCES REGARDING NOISE. SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ALREADY AFFORDED TO YOU BY RIGHT OF STATE STATUTE.

THE DECIBEL LEVEL IN THE NOISE ORDINANCE MATCHES WHAT IS IN THE TEXAS PENAL CODE.

AND WHEN WE PREPARED THE ORDINANCE, WE DECIDED TO GO THROUGH AND REVISE YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES ON OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NO LONGER NEED BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE STINK BOMB AND ALL THAT STUFF.

WE DECIDED, OKAY, YOU DON'T NEED THAT.

AND THAT WAS PRETTY OLD STUFF ANYWAY.

OKAY. REASON I ASK YOU THE QUESTION IS A RESIDENT SENT ME SOMETHING AND THEY SAID.

A PERSON IS IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT THEIR NOISE EXCEEDS 63DB ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, MEASURED FROM ANOTHER PERSON'S SEPARATE OWNED PROPERTY.

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AND THEN IT SAYS WHEN MEASURED FROM SEPARATE OWNERSHIP PROPERTY, THE NOISE CANNOT EXCEED 85DB FOR ENTERTAINMENT ZONE PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GOT THAT PROVISION.

I THINK IT'S A SEPARATE CITY.

YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S NOW THIS IS STATE OF TEXAS NOISE ORDINANCE OR SO THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT IT.

BUT YEAH IT'S IT'S THE PENAL CODE SECTION 4201 AND IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT IN THERE.

YEAH. YOU SAY THE MAGISTRATE OR PEACE OFFICER GIVES NOTICE TO SOMEBODY EXCEEDING 85DB AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND IF IT'S NOT TURNED DOWN THEN.

WE CAN DO SOME ENFORCEMENT.

THAT'S IT. AND IN THE PENAL CODE, IT'S UNDER DISORDERLY CONDUCT.

AND IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, IT'S UNDER NUISANCE AND DISORDERLY CONDUCT.

SO THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT PROVISION FROM SOME OTHER CITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

UM. WHAT IS IT CURRENTLY? IN ANGLETON IS IT 85? CURRENTLY WE USE THE STATE THE DISORDERLY CONDUCT ONE.

WE DON'T HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE.

OKAY. SO HOW DO YOU ESTABLISH A QUIET ZONE IN THAT TIME? IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DECIBEL LEVEL THAT YOU HAVE TO GO BY? THERE IS A DECIBEL LEVEL.

IT'S THE 85 AND THAT'S WHAT MEETS.

THAT'S YOUR DAYTIME LIMIT, TOO.

SO WHY DO WE HAVE A QUIET ZONE AT NIGHTTIME? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A QUIET.

DON'T WE? DON'T.

NO, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WAS HERE TONIGHT FOR THIS ITEM? OKAY. WELL.

I'M NOT ONE TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, HOWEVER.

WE HAD A TOWN HALL.

NOW WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE REVISED, CORRECT? YES. OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT SO I MIGHT NOT SHOW UP.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORKED ON AFTER THE TOWN HALL.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS AMPLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN ROBERTS IS SUGGESTING OR MAKING A POINT OF IS VALID, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A NIGHTTIME DECIBEL LIMIT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY IN CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN.

BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST.

LOOK AT IT. CAUSE.

IS THAT AN OPTION OR DOES THAT GO AGAINST THE STATE? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN CHAPTER 217, WHICH IS DISORDERLY CONDUCT, BUT I'LL LOOK INTO IT.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AWARE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I DO KNOW FOR A FACT WHAT SUPPORTS THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU IS TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND CHAPTER 217 AND THE PENAL CODE.

SO I'LL BE GLAD TO LOOK INTO THAT.

BUT WE'RE NOT HARMED BY DELAYING IT.

NO. NO.

BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY FOLLOWING THEM? I DON'T THINK SO.

MY OFFICE JUST WENT THROUGH YOUR CODE TO MAKE THE CHANGE.

I MEAN, I'M.

I DO WHATEVER YOU TELL ME TO DO.

I'LL CHANGE IT. I'LL BRING IT BACK.

AN ORDINANCE IF YOU WANT TO.

YEAH, YOU CAN LEAVE IT THE SAME.

YEAH, YOU CAN LEAVE IT. JUST WHEN SOMEONE REPORTS IT, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE STATE STATE LAW AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO REFERENCE.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE PUT ALL THIS TIME AND EFFORT INTO IT.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS, CHIEF.

HOW MANY CALLS DO YOU ALL GET ON NUISANCE AT NIGHT, REGULARLY VERSUS DAY? MOST OF THE TIME PEOPLE CALL ABOUT NOISE DURING THE NIGHT, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK IT VARIES.

I DON'T. YOU DON'T THINK IT VARIES? MOSTLY AT NIGHT. IF THERE'S A CONCERT OR THERE'S A WELL, SHADY ISN'T THERE ANYMORE.

BUT YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.

OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE STUFF IS DOWNTOWN.

BUT DO YOU GET A LOT OF CALLS ON A RESIDENT CALLING ON A NEIGHBOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR NOISE? WE GET CALLS ON THAT ANSWER, BUT THAT'S SPECIFIC TO USUALLY A NEIGHBOR.

PROBLEM IS THAT IS THAT TYPICALLY AT NIGHT, THOUGH? NO, SIR. OKAY.

YOU GET BARKING DOG CALLS A LOT, DON'T YOU? WE GET BARKING DOG CALLS AT NIGHT AND THE ORDINANCE DOES COVER THE BARKING DOGS.

YEAH. WELL, WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE THAT ON THE BOOKS NOW, RIGHT? UNDER THE BARKING DOGS.

WE STILL HAVE TO.

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IS IT UNDER THE.

I DON'T I DON'T THINK. NO, WE DON'T HAVE IT.

YOU DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR BARKING DOGS.

YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE, I BELIEVE, FOR LOOSE DOGS, LOOSE DOGS AND CHICKENS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT OKAY. BARKING CHICKENS.

THE BARKING DOGS WOULD GO BY THE 85DB ALSO.

YES, SIR. THAT'S THE ONLY RULE WE HAVE.

WELL, I THINK I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE ANIMAL CONTROL.

THEY DO ANSWER.

I'LL CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU.

BUT THEY DO ANSWER BARKING.

BARKING DOG CALLS.

AND WE DO GET THOSE AT NIGHT, TOO, WHEN PEOPLE CAN'T SLEEP.

WELL, IT'S AN ANIMAL NUISANCE.

IT'S THE SAME. SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, NORMALLY IF A DOG IS BARKING, THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUE LIKE.

NEGLECT OR.

YOU KNOW, BUT WE HAVE NUISANCE ANIMALS, BUT WE DON'T I'M NOT AWARE OF TOO MANY ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS JUST ABOUT BARKING.

I SEE NOISY VEHICLES IS IN HERE.

THAT WAS THE COMPLAINT FROM WEST BRONCO BEND.

YES, SIR. IS IT ALSO A COMPLAINT FROM EAST BEND, TEXAS? MY POOR NEIGHBOR. YEAH.

IT'S JUST THE INTERSECTION WHEN YOU.

AND IT WAS ALSO INCOMPLETE WITH ALEXANDER COURT.

SO. HE WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION.

CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE. HE CAME IN DRESSED TO COUNCIL DURING THE FIRST THREE MINUTES.

I CAN TELL YOU WHICH HOUSE IT IS, THOUGH.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S.

I THINK THE COUNCIL DOES NEED TO ADOPT THIS, BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS A CHANCE TO CHIME IN ONE LAST TIME.

THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING.

I HATE ADOPTING ORDINANCES ON THE FIRST READING.

I JUST FEEL LIKE IT DOESN'T GIVE THE CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHIME IN.

SO THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS BASICALLY RESTATE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OR THE TEXAS STATUTE OR SOMETHING OR SOMETHING EXTRA IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE NEED THAT WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE.

UH, I CAN'T ANSWER WHAT YOU NEED.

I MEAN, THAT'S DICTATED BY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, BUT IT.

THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO PASS AN ORDINANCE REGARDING NOISE AND ENFORCE IT.

HOW YOU DO THAT AND WHAT METHODOLOGY IS IN THE ORDINANCE.

SO. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A WE DON'T HAVE LOCAL ORDINANCES IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT'S GOING TO COVER EVERYTHING.

THE STATUTES THAT THE STATE HAS PROVIDES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO TO ENFORCE AND TO PASS AN ORDINANCE REGARDING NOISE.

AGAIN, IT'S A NUISANCE.

IT'S UNDER NUISANCE.

FOR ANOTHER TIME.

YEAH. I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE WANT TO SEE ADDED OR SUBTRACTED OUT OF THIS ORDINANCE, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.

AND THEN.

CAN ALL ALL THOSE ACTIONS CAN BE TAKEN AND WE BRING IT BACK.

WE'LL BRING BACK A PUBLIC HEARING HEARING AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO AN ACTION ITEM.

YEAH, AND I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS DIRECTLY BY EMAIL ON THE NIGHT QUIET ZONES.

OKAY. AND THEN LAST ONE, CHIEF.

WHERE ARE YOUR PROBLEM AREAS OF TOWN? DO YOU HAVE THAT DATA? PROBLEM AREAS. AS FAR AS NOISE.

NOISE COMPLAINTS CAN GET THAT DATA.

I DON'T. I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE'RE SPECIFIC.

I CAN I CAN GET YOU A NOISE COMPLAINTS AND TELL YOU WHERE THEY'RE FROM AND WHAT WHAT WHAT TIME DO YOU WANT.

LAST YEAR. THE LAST YEAR? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

UNCLE BEN'S ONE. YEAH.

BRONCO. BEN CEDAR IS ANOTHER ONE.

BUT IT'S REALLY MORE YOUR ARTERIAL ROADS IN MOST CASES THAT YOU HAVE THOSE NOISE COMPLAINTS THERE MIGHT BE HERE AND THERE RESIDENT VERSUS RESIDENT AND SCATTERED AROUND TOWN.

WE ACTUALLY DID SOME ENFORCEMENT, NOT ENFORCEMENT, SOME STUDY THAT YOU'D LIKE TO WORD THAT YOU LIKE OVER IN THE BRONCO BEND AREA, AS LONG AS IT'S FREE.

IT WAS WELL, IT COST THE POLICE TO GO THERE.

BUT POLICE TIME. RIGHT.

BUT WE DID THAT AND THAT THAT REPORT WAS FORWARDED TO THE CITY MANAGER ON THE TIMES WE WERE THERE.

THE THINGS THAT WE DID, WE HAD A DECIBEL METER AND ALL THAT INFORMATION IS THERE.

GOOD. I SENT THAT ALL TO YOU.

YEAH, WELL, THE OTHER NOISE COMPLAINTS ARE CONCERTS.

YES, YES. AND STILL THE TRAIN.

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NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THE TRAIN.

I'M JUST ON TO YOU. I MEAN, WE HAVE A QUIET ZONE.

THAT MAY OR MAY NOT ALWAYS BE QUIET.

UM, COUNSELOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS? THEY CAN BRING IT BACK.

THANK YOU. HEARING NONE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH BRINGING IT BACK.

AT NUMBER 11 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AUSTIN COLONY.

SECTION ONE A FINAL PLAT IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

[11. Discussion and possible actions on Austin Colony Section 1A Final Plat and the First Amendment to the Development Agreement. ]

MR. OTIS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS AUSTIN COLONY.

FINAL PLAT ONE, A SECTION AND YOU ALSO BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR AUSTIN COLONY. AS YOU KNOW, THE PLAN DISTRICT NUMBER THREE WAS MODIFIED RECENTLY DUE TO THE RECONFIGURATION OF AUSTIN COLONY BOULEVARD.

SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF SECTIONS THAT WERE MODIFIED, INCLUDING THE LOT THRESHOLDS.

WITH THAT INFORMATION, WE FORWARDED IT, OF COURSE, TO THE BOND COUNSEL AND HAD THE PAIRED NUMBERS RECONSIDERED.

SO WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ATTACHED, I SORT OF OUTLINED SOME OF THE BULLET POINT ITEMS IN WHICH WE HAD TO COORDINATE, AND SOME OF THOSE WERE THE PROJECT AMENITIES, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE FENCING PLAN AND ALSO ALL OF THE SECTION NUMBERS IN TERMS OF LOT CONFIGURATIONS, PARK LAND FEES IN LIEU.

THOSE THINGS WERE AFFECTED BY THAT ORDINANCE WHICH AMENDED THE PD.

ALSO, THE SEWER AND WATER CAPACITY NUMBERS WERE ADJUSTED AS A RESULT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS WELL.

WE'VE COPIED YOU ON THE RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS REGARDING THE PLAT FOR SECTION ONE, WHICH WOULD BE THE 50 LOTS IN WHICH YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IN THE LOT MIX ARRANGEMENT FOR THOSE 50 FOOT LOTS FOR BLOCKS, FIVE RESERVES IN THAT PARTICULAR SECTION. OTHER THAN THAT, THE COMMENTS WERE OF COURSE CORRECTED THIS WEEK BY THE APPLICANTS IN THE SECOND SUBMITTAL IN WHICH THE ENGINEER AS WELL AS STAFF HAS CLEARED THOSE COMMENTS THAT YOU SAW IN THE REPORT.

WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE TYPOS IN THE REPORT.

THIS IS AUSTIN COLONY, SECTION ONE FINAL PLAT.

ALSO, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS ATTACHED, WHICH HAS BEEN VETTED BY LEGAL AS WELL AS ALL OF STAFF THAT HAD TO REVIEW THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS AND AMENITIES OF THE PLAN.

WE CAN ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE REGARDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID VOTE FOR TO ZERO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT BEFORE YOU AS WELL.

SO YOU'RE BEING REQUESTED TO CONSIDER TWO ACTIONS WITH THIS ITEM.

AND THE DEVELOPER, MR. SANDY RAY, IS HERE.

HE IS IN CONCURRENCE WITH THE COMMENTS FROM LEGAL STAFF, THE ENGINEER AS WELL AS PARKLAND NUMBERS THAT WE ALERTED ALLUDED TO IN THE SUMMARY AND HE IS IN AGREEMENT TO ALL OF THE SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THE AMENDMENT, TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO. MR. RAY, WE'RE AT NINE PHASES NOW.

COME ON UP. YEAH.

THAT IS CORRECT.

WITH NINE PHASES. OKAY.

SO. CAN YOU BLOW THAT PICTURE UP ON THERE, PLEASE? THE ONE WITH THE RED CIRCLE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER EITHER ONE OR.

JUST SHOWING ALL THE PHASES NOW.

UM. AND WE TOOK AWAY ALL THE OFF STREET PARKING.

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NOTHING'S CHANGED OTHER THAN THE PHASING, CORRECT? CORRECT. WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE, MR. RAY TO START PHASE ONE A.

WE HAVE SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR BID TO MATULA.

DOUG RUSSELL WITH BAKER.

LAWSON REPRESENTS OTHER DEVELOPERS IN AND AROUND THIS AREA AND KNOWS WHAT THE BIDS ARE ON THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO OURS.

WE THINK THAT WE'LL GET A BID THAT WE HOPE WE CAN LIVE WITH, ASSUMING WE GET A BID THAT WE HOPE THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH.

THEN WE'VE GOT THREE BUILDERS THAT WE'RE TALKING TO.

D.R. HORTON IS STILL.

HIGH ON THE LIST.

WE'RE TALKING TO LENORE AND WE'RE TALKING TO A NEW BUILDER.

I'VE REACHED OUT AND.

HAD AN INTEREST FROM JOVINIAN.

THEY HAVE AN INTEREST, BUT I.

I DON'T SEE THEM.

SO I'LL TAKE THE.

I'LL TAKE MY BIDS.

COME UP WITH A NUMBER AND TAKE IT TO THE BUILDERS.

IF THE BUILDERS ACCEPT THE NUMBER, WE'LL SIGN A CONTRACT AND START CONSTRUCTION.

MY GUESS IS THE EARLIEST WE COULD START CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE OCTOBER 1ST.

BY THE TIME WE. WE GET EVERYTHING BACK AND AWARD THE BID, THEN THE CONTRACTORS GOT TO WORK IT INTO HIS SYSTEM.

THAT WOULD BE THE EARLIEST.

I'M HOPING THE NUMBERS WILL COME BACK.

I'M HOPING THAT THE BUILDERS WILL WILL BE POSITIVE.

I THE ONLY THING THAT WE PROBLEM WE'VE GOT IS NEW HOME SALES ARE SLOW IN ANGLETON AREA.

THEY'RE SLOW.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

I DO. I'M.

CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

SO WE AND WE NEED TO GET IT TEED UP, READY TO GO.

BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND OUT, WE WENT THROUGH THIS IN ZERO EIGHT, 2008.

AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS WHEN IT COMES BACK, IT COMES BACK HARD AND FAST.

AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF INVENTORY.

THERE'S NOT. SO I WANT TO BE READY.

IF I CAN'T GET IT GOING NOW, I WANT TO BE READY SO WE COULD MAKE HAY WHEN THE SUN SHINES.

AND BUT I, I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

GREAT. COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. RAY? NO, NO, NO.

I'LL ASK. OTIS, HAS ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVELY CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME WE ADDRESSED THIS TO TONIGHT? NO, SIR. THIS IS THE SAME LAND PLAN IN WHICH YOU REVIEWED, AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU. IT'S IN COMPLIANCE.

COUNCIL. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION? MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF AUSTIN COLONY.

SECTION ONE A AS PRESENTED TONIGHT AND THE MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THIS. I'M SORRY.

I'M BEING A PAIN TONIGHT.

IT'S THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS STILL IN PLACE.

NOTHING HAS HAPPENED TO THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THIS IS JUST AN AMENDMENT TO IT.

BECAUSE OF THE PD AND THE CHANGE IN THE CONFIGURATION.

OKAY. AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PRESENTED TONIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR APPROVAL OF AUSTIN COLONY, SECTION ONE.

A FINAL PLAT AND THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RAY, FOR COMING DOWN.

RAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 12 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR WINDROSE GREEN, SECTION FOUR.

[12. Discussion and possible action on a Preliminary Subdivision Plat for Windrose Green Section 4.]

AND THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WINDROSE GREEN SECTION FOUR IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU.

THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF 65 LOTS, TWO RESERVES, THREE BLOCKS.

THIS WAS SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ITEMS AT THAT TIME, 15 OR SO ITEMS WHICH WERE TEXTUAL IN NATURE.

SINCE THEN THEY HAVE RESUBMITTED THAT RESUBMISSION TO THE STAFF AND CITY ENGINEERING, WHICH WE'VE CLEARED THOSE COMMENTS DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

[02:25:10]

I WILL SAY THAT I DO HAVE A COPY OF THE RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS.

A COPY OF EITHER OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN TERMS OF THEIR VOTE.

IT WAS 2 TO 2 REGARDING THIS ITEM.

DISCUSSIONS WERE HAD REGARDS TO WINDROSE GREEN AND THE PREVIOUS ARRANGEMENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH SAID THAT THE MINIMUM LOT SHOULD NOT BE SMALLER THAN 40FT IN WIDTH DISCUSSIONS ON LOT.

SIZES WERE DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF WIDTH, AND WE GOT ALL BASIC TOPIC IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS BEING PRESENTED.

STAFF PRESENTED THE ITEMS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT MET THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND TRIED TO STAY ON TOPIC.

LEGAL WAS PRESENT IN THE MEETING.

IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO IF THE PLAT MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

BASICALLY IT GOES FORTH WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.

HOPEFULLY IT'S A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.

THIS ITEM HAD ALREADY GONE BEFORE LEGAL GAVE INPUT ON THE STATE LAWS THAT ARE HANDED DOWN TO US IN TERMS OF SUBDIVISION APPROVALS.

SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS UNFORTUNATELY DENIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR SECTION FOUR.

SECTION FIVE WAS THE OPPOSITE.

IT WAS APPROVED, AS YOU'LL SEE LATER.

DO YOU ALL WANT TO SEE A COPY OF THE RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS? I DO HAVE COPIES.

YEP. I'M SORRY.

YOU ALREADY GOT COPIES, I GUESS, BRINGING THEM UP HERE.

YES, SIR. OKAY. TREE DIDN'T DIE IN VAIN.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE THE DRAFT MINUTES.

OF COURSE, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO, OTIS, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU SAID THAT IT CAME PHASE FOUR CAME UP AND IT WAS A22 VOTE.

BUT THEN YOU ALSO SAID IT WAS DENIED TWO DIFFERENT TIMES.

IT CAME BEFORE P AND Z.

KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS SECTION FOUR AND FIVE WERE PRESENTED IN THE MEETING.

THE FIRST ITEM WAS SECTION FOUR.

IT GOT DENIED.

SECTION FIVE GOT APPROVED FOR TWO ZERO.

WHICH ONE WAS TWO? TWO TWO SECTION FOUR.

OKAY. SO THAT'S JUST IT JUST DOESN'T DIDN'T DENY THE TIE.

DOESN'T THAT MEAN IT JUST GOES TO THE.

IT FAILED TO GET A RECOMMENDATION.

YES. YES. IT FAILED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL.

OKAY. I MEAN, THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE HAD THE EARLIER AGENDA ITEM. HAD WE BEEN.

QUICKER TO THAT THAN THIS WOULDN'T HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INSTITUTE.

SIR? WELL.

IT WOULDN'T PREVIOUSLY AGREED UPON.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS IN THE ETJ, SO I THINK WE'D LOSE SOME OF THE CONTROLS.

IT'S A PD.

WELL, IT'S. I'M JUST SAYING.

RIGHT. IT'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SO IT'S AVAILABLE WHATEVER STANDARD YOU WANT.

RIGHT. AND AT THE TIME, ACTUALLY, PHASE FOUR, I BELIEVE, WAS IN THE CITY'S CITY LIMITS BEFORE WE ANNEXED THEM.

I THINK PHASE FOUR WAS IN THERE.

YEAH. THAT LITTLE EDGE, JUST SAYING.

IT WOULDN'T MEET OUR WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT.

THE CONFLICT WE KEEP SEEING OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS THAT.

PREVIOUSLY, AND IT WAS AGREED UPON THIS DEVELOPMENT.

APPARENTLY IT WAS LEFT EXTREMELY OPEN AND VERY FAVORABLE TO THE DEVELOPER.

YEP. AND.

AND. OF WHAT I SEE WHEN I'M JUST MY OPINION IS YOU SEE A LOT OF BUYER'S REMORSE IN THE FROM THE.

COMMISSIONS AND THE.

IN CITY COUNCIL. HOWEVER, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE.

THESE ARE NICE, NICE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO.

DIMINISH WHEN ROSEGREEN IS ATTEMPTING TO DO.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT LOT SIZES THAT WOULD PROBABLY.

IF THIS SAME PLAN WAS PRESENTED PRESENTLY, NOT NOT BE MET AS FAVORABLY AS IT WAS AT THE TIME IT WAS PRESENTED BACK THEN.

I AGREE WITH THAT, TRAVIS.

SO THAT'S JUST SO THAT'S WHERE THE CONFLICT IS, JUST THE BUTTING OF HEADS WHERE WE WERE THEN AND WHERE WE ARE NOW.

BUT THAT'S. IT'S OKAY.

THAT'S THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS DONE.

I MEAN, WE GOT TO STICK WITH THE AGREEMENT, BUT IN MY OPINION.

[02:30:05]

THESE ARE ALL 40 FOOT LOTS.

CORRECT. 50.

THESE ARE 50. SO THERE'S A MIXTURE.

THERE ARE 56 LOTS THAT ARE 50FT WIDE.

COUPLE THAT ARE OVER 67 THAT ARE 56FT WIDE IN SECTION FOUR.

WHICH ONE HAS THE 40? SUBSECTION THREE OR SECTION 5TH MAY BE ONE OF THE EARLIER SECTIONS.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE LAST SECTION WE COVERED.

IT WAS. SECTION FIVE HAS SOME 45 SECONDS.

THE MAJORITY ARE 45.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MOTIONS? THESE STREET NAMES MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ONE ROSE GREEN SECTION FOUR.

A SECOND, HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR APPROVAL OF WINDROSE GREEN, SECTION FOUR.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, A LITTLE BIT, YEAH.

THESE CONTOUR LINES GO AWAY ON THE ON THE.

ON THE FINAL PLAT.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE COMMENTS TO ADD THOSE BACK IN.

AND YOU DO NOT SEE THE VERSION I'M LOOKING AT HERE? YES. OTIS.

I'M LOOKING AT A PLAT WITH APPARENTLY THERE WAS A DITCH RUNNING THROUGH HERE, AND UNLESS THE CONTOUR LINES ARE VERY CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER.

AND IF THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE FINAL PLAT, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO READ THE NUMBERS THAT YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO READ.

LOT DIMENSIONS, LOT SIZES, BEARINGS AND DISTANCES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO AS FAR AS.

SPEAKING FROM A FROM A SURVEYOR STANDPOINT, I'VE GOT TO GO GO TO COURTHOUSE AND GET THIS PLAT AND USE IT TO PUT SOMEBODY'S LOT ON THE GROUND.

AND I CAN'T READ THE DIMENSIONS OR THE BEARINGS AND THE DISTANCES BECAUSE WE'RE SATISFYING SOMEONE'S ORDNANCE.

THE LOT.

THE CONTOURS ARE ALL GOING TO GO AWAY.

THIS IS ALL GOING. YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE SAME PICTURE I'M LOOKING AT.

I SEE IT. BUT THE WHOLE PLACE IS GOING TO GET REGRADED OUT THERE.

SO I'M JUST HOPING THAT THESE THAT THESE CONTOUR LINES, THIS BIG NESTED STUFF RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, SEE A BIG BLACK BLOB.

YOU CAN'T READ ANYTHING ON THERE.

I INVITE YOU TO GO AND LOOK AT IT.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS OF THE CITY ENGINEER.

WE CAN CERTAINLY ADJUST THAT.

YES. WE'LL SEE WHEN THE FINAL.

THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PART, RIGHT? THIS IS PRELIMINARY.

YEAH. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO GO ON THIS PLAT.

IT AIN'T. IT AIN'T IT'S NOT EVEN AT PRELIMINARY POINT, IF YOU ASK ME.

THEY'RE JUST THROWING STUFF OUT THERE AND ASK US TO ASK TO PROVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

GOT DIMENSIONS MISSING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WE'LL CERTAINLY COORDINATE THAT.

YES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE THE MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. AYE.

MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 13 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR WINDROSE GREEN SECTION FIVE.

[13. Discussion and possible action on a Preliminary Subdivision Plat for Windrose Green Section 5. ]

CERTAINLY. SECTION FIVE WINDROSE GREEN PRELIMINARY.

THIS IS, OF COURSE, 67 LOTS, ONE RESERVED THREE BLOCKS.

SAME NOTION HERE.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF TEXTUAL CHANGES THAT WERE REQUESTED TO BE CHANGED BY THE CITY ENGINEER REGARDING THE SECTION FIVE PLAT.

PLANNING COMMISSION DID CONSIDER THIS ITEM AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE ZERO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION.

THESE ITEMS WERE CLEARED IN THE LAST CORRECTION AND YOU'RE BEING RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE THIS PLAT.

PRELIMINARY PLAT. COUNCIL.

DITTO MY COMMENTS ON THE FIRST PLAY ON SECTION FOUR, SIR.

YES, SIR. YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S

[02:35:02]

ABOUT HALF AND HALF 40 FIVES AND 50S ON THIS, ON THIS PLAT.

YEAH.

AS FAR AS THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AND STUFF.

I'M GOING TO ASK THAT.

NOT TONIGHT, BUT.

I WANT THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND.

HOW WELL ARE THEY, THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE PAYING THEIR WATER BILL? THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE OUT THERE WITH PEOPLE PAYING THEIR WATER BILLS OR NOT.

I MEAN, THIS IS OUTSIDE THE CITY AND THE CITY'S GOT TO DEAL WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL METER AND EACH INDIVIDUAL.

I'LL CHECK ON IT. PERSON YOU KNOW.

THIS WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT I WAS.

I FOUND OUT AFTER THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO GO TAKE CARE OF ALL THIS IN A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT.

AND ALSO WE LIVE AND LEARN.

OKAY. I'M LISTENING.

BUT BUT TO BE FAIR, I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE LIVE AND LEARN. I MEAN, YOU.

YOU KNOW, YOU.

ALL OF OUR EXPERIENCES SHOULD BE AN EDUCATIONAL, SOME SOME FORM OR ANOTHER, GOOD OR BAD.

IT CAN BE POSITIVE. CAN BE NEGATIVE.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO BLAME THIS ONE ON THE ONE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN BROUGHT UP THE NET.

ONE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED IN THE LAW.

JUST A PHRASE. IS THAT A MOTION? COUNCILMAN GONGORA. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WINDROSE GREEN SECTION FIVE.

YOU HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA FOR APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR WINDROSE GREEN, SECTION FIVE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. AYE.

AYE. THANK YOU.

WELL, THAT'S A THREE, THREE, THREE, THREE.

IT WAS A THREE. THREE? YEAH.

WHO WERE THE EYES? YOU WERE. I WAS EYES.

GONGORA BIRTHS ROBERTS.

NAYS. TOWNSEND TOWNSEND.

THREE, THREE, THREE.

SO WHEN WAS IT FILED? SORRY, OTIS. WE ARE ON SCHEDULE.

IT MET OUR SUBMITTAL DEADLINE.

IT WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE HAVE NOT GONE BEYOND THE 30 DAY PERIOD.

THAT'S WHAT I CAN ASSERT.

AND IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SEND BACK TO THE DEVELOPER ON ON THE DENIAL? WE DEFINITELY WOULD REQUEST THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL SO THAT I CAN DICTATE THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW IN THE RESULTS LETTER TO THEM, AND THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THOSE DELIVERED COMMENTS OR CONDITIONS OF DISAPPROVAL.

BUT IT WOULD HELP ME TO BE ABLE TO DRAFT THAT LETTER.

AND WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM META PLANNING REPRESENTING THE PROJECT IN CASE THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.

JENNIFER IS HERE THIS EVENING REPRESENTING CAITLIN.

THANK YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE PLANS, BUT JUST IN CASE THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS.

SORRY FOR PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, SO I'LL JUST VOTE ON MINE.

I'LL TELL YOU MY REASONING.

IT STEMS BACK FROM THE LAST MEETING.

WHICH THEY IMPROVED.

WE APPROVED, I THINK IT WAS SECTION THREE, AND IT JUST GOES TO THE DIVERSITY THAT I THINK IS LACKING.

AND THAT IS THAT SO FAR, AT LEAST IN THIS SECTION FOUR AND FIVE FIVE FOR BEING 50 AND THEN FIVE BEING 45 AND 50.

[02:40:01]

UH, I THINK SECTION THREE WAS 40S.

IT JUST SEEMS TO BE EVERYTHING BETWEEN 40 AND 50FT.

SO THAT'S JUST MY OBJECTION.

CAN YOU CLARIFY? DIVERSITY IN WHAT RESPECT AND WIDTH? LOT SIZE. YEAH.

SO, BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE LOT SIZES OF BOTH OF THESE SECTIONS.

SO YEAH. I MEAN IN YOUR MIND.

IN YOUR MIND. NOT, NOT IN MY MIND.

I MEAN, I'LL JUST BE HONEST.

I'M JUST 40, 45 AND 50FT.

YOU'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A SPREAD OF TEN FEET OVER AND YOU CAN CALL THEM THREE DIFFERENT SIZE LOTS.

AND I GUESS THEY ARE TECHNICALLY, BUT THEY'RE ALL WITHIN A KIND OF A.

SAME. GROUPING IN MY MIND, AND THAT'S A BELOW OUR HISTORICAL AVERAGE OF 60FT.

SO THERE'S JUST NOT BEEN A DIVERSITY.

AND THAT'S MY OBJECTION. AND BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER BEING A PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THERE WOULD BE.

OBVIOUSLY. I UNDERSTAND.

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IS VAGUE AND DEVELOPER FRIENDLY.

SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE, BUT THAT'S MY REASON FOR MY OBJECTION.

SO. I ECHO MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT COMMENTS ABOUT THE MAJORITY BEING 45.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ALL RIGHT WITH THE PREVIOUS SECTION.

THEY WERE 50S PUSHING IT, BUT NOW WE'RE BACK TO.

TRAILER SIZE LOTS AND A VERY NICE SUBDIVISION.

AND I AGREE. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE, IT'S A NICE Y'ALL KNOW, I, I CAN TELL Y'ALL ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO PUT A NICE PRODUCT, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OBJECTION.

IF. CAN I MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION OR ACTUALLY A QUESTION? I DON'T. THIS ISN'T MY PROJECT.

I'M THE PEOPLE WHO NORMALLY HANDLE THIS PROJECT ARE ALL FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT.

SO I'M KIND OF FILLING IN.

SO AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN VARIETY OR LIKE A MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM.

IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THERE'S A MINIMUM, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT THE VARIETY HAS TO BE SO FAR IN ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER IN ANY GIVEN SECTION.

IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE SAME.

I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT.

BUT OTIS WOULD KNOW THAT BETTER THAN I WOULD.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS IF THERE'S NOTHING THAT REQUIRES A PARTICULAR MIX, THEN WE'RE STILL IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

RIGHT REGARDING THE LAST MINUTE? CORRECT. WE'RE NOT VIOLATING ANY REQUIREMENTS.

OKAY. COULD THE CITY ATTORNEY ELABORATE ON HOW THAT.

INTERSECTS WITH STATE LAW? NO, I CAN'T OPINE FOR A REQUEST FROM YOU, BUT I CAN SAY THAT THAT'S WHY I ASKED MR. SPRIGGS IF WE WERE STILL WITHIN 30 DAYS.

SO WE ARE.

30 DAYS IS TOMORROW.

IF I'M NOT, I'M NOT 100% SURE.

BUT THAT'S SO CITY COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO DENY IT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE YOU AN EXPLANATION.

OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR IS GOING TO HAVE TO CERTIFICATE SIGN A CERTIFICATE AS TO THAT, AND THEN YOU COME BACK TO THE TABLE.

I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH YOUR PROCESS FOR ADDRESSING THAT.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO HIS CERTIFICATION ON THAT.

OKAY. OKAY, SO WE HAVE ENOUGH, I THINK.

JUDITH. YEAH.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WELL, THAT LEADS US TO THE LAST PART OF THE MEETING, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT.

WE WILL ADJOURN AT 845.

SO I WANT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.