Aug 03, 2023 Planning & Zoning Commission

CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

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OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM OF BUSINESS IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON JULY 6TH, 2023.

[1. Discussion and possible action on the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held on July 6, 2023.]

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE? AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS GOING.

MOVING TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM TWO DISCUSSION ON A CONCEPT PROPOSAL TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2927 NORTH VALDERAS STREET.

[2. Discussion on a concept proposal to rezone property located at 2927 N. Valderas St. currently zoned C-G, General Commercial to Residential. No action required.]

MR. SPRIGGS.

THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT, ALEXIS, AND I'M NOT SURE IF SHE SIGNED IN.

SO WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION FOR THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU.

IT'S JUST A CONCEPT REVIEW.

WE PROVIDED YOU WITH THE PROJECT SITE, WHICH IS JUST ABOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE.

IF YOU WOULD JUST SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED, AS YOU SEE THERE, C-G GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING JUST TO SPEAK WITH YOU WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY TO UTILIZE IT FOR SINGLE FAMILY PURPOSES.

WE WILL SPEAK WITH YOU LATER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF.

SO IF THE APPLICANT WOULD PLEASE APPROACH THE COMMISSIONER AND EXPLAIN YOUR CONCEPT AND THEN THEY'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK.

YES, MA'AM.

HELLO MY NAME IS PATSI GARCIA.

MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH IN THE PROCESS OF BUYING THIS PROPERTY.

WE DON'T.

WE PLAN ON BUILDING A BARN FOR RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S NOT FOR LIVESTOCK. NO HORSES, NO COWS, NO NOTHING.

BASICALLY, IT'S TO STORE LIKE WE HAVE TRAILERS.

WE HAVE AN RV STORE THAT WE HAVE PROBABLY LIKE 6 OR 7 OF THEM THAT ARE JUST SPREAD OUT AT BRAZORIA COUNTY.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM ALL TOGETHER AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO BUILD A HOME ON THAT PROPERTY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. GARCIA WHILE SHE'S AT THE MICROPHONE.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD YOUR BARN FIRST? YES, SIR. AND PROBABLY SAVE ALL THE STORAGE COSTS THAT YOU'RE.

YES, YES, YES.

AND THEN BUILD A HOME.

AND WE'VE EXPLAINED TYPICALLY YOU CANNOT BUILD A BARN FIRST.

BUT IF YOU APPLY FOR BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, THE PERMITS WILL RUN SIMULTANEOUSLY.

AND THERE ARE CERTAIN EXPIRATIONS THAT WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

AND STAFF IS GOOD WITH EVERYTHING.

SO THIS IS NOT THE NORM TO GO FROM COMMERCIAL BACK TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT IN SOME INSTANCES IT MAY MAKE PERFECT SENSE.

WHAT WE EXPLAINED TO THE APPLICANT IS THE PROS AND CONS ARE THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ACROSS THE STREET.

HOWEVER, SOME OF THE CONS FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE IS SOMETIMES YOU'RE GIVING UP PRIME COMMERCIAL LAND THAT FOR YOUR TAX BASE OR IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU PLACE THE HOUSE THERE, THEN ANY OF THOSE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES HAVE CERTAIN BUFFER REQUIREMENTS PER THE CODE THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO ADHERE TO.

SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THESE THINGS WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM COMMERCIAL DOWNGRADING OR DOWNSIZING TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CON IN THIS CASE.

BUT ISN'T IT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE DAYCARE? YES, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE DAYCARE.

THERE'S A SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST AS WELL ACROSS THE STREET.

YES, SIR. AND THERE ARE OTHER HOMES LIKE THIS JUST DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT? SIMILARLY, YES.

SOUTH OF ANDERSON, WE HAVE THIS SAME CONCEPT WHERE YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

RIGHT.

OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK.

YOU KNOW MY FEEDBACK IS THAT I THINK THAT'LL WORK IN THAT PARTICULAR SPACE.

I AGREE. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMING.

THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK, MISS GARCIA.

THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.

ITEM THREE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ANGLETON PARK PLACE SUBDIVISION SECTION TWO.

[3. Discussion and possible action on a Preliminary Plat for Angleton Park Place Subdivision Section 2.]

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YES, SIR. I'LL BE RIGHT THERE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ANGLETON PARK SUBDIVISION SECTION TWO.

AS YOU RECALL, YOU HAVE CONSIDERED SECTION ONE AND APPROVED IT AS SUCH.

THEY ARE REALLY READY FOR CONSTRUCTION OF SECTION ONE.

IT'S GONE BEFORE FINAL PLATTING.

THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE REMAINING UNITS FOR THE PROPERTY.

THESE 32 LOTS.

THIS IS A PRE MANUFACTURED SUBDIVISION.

THE HOMES PRE MANUFACTURED HOMES ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE SET UP FOR PURCHASE WITH THE NOTION THAT THEY WOULD BE A SOLD LOT AND UNIT ON THAT PARTICULAR LOT WITH DRIVEWAY LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS PENDING COUNCIL'S FINAL APPROVAL.

THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WHICH IS CONSISTENT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN FOR THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION.

THEY HAVE TWO ACCESSES OFF OF PHILLIPS ROAD AND IT'S FULLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND IT'S OWNED APPROPRIATELY MH. THANK YOU. IT'S BEING RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

THE PLAT DID GO TO THE CITY ENGINEER IN WHICH TODAY WE RECEIVED THE CLEARANCE OF ALL COMMENTS, AS NOTED IN THE REPORT, AND IT'S BEING RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT. [INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS BEING RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS FOR STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEY.

THAT GOES BEFORE COUNCIL PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW COUPLE OF WEEKS.

BUT IT'S JUST PENDING FINAL DETAILS.

WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE APPLICANT TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE CONCESSIONS FOR MAINTENANCE, LANDSCAPING, ANY TYPE OF DESIGN STANDARDS ARE INCORPORATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MANUFACTURED HOMES SUBDIVISION AND NOT A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK IS BECAUSE THEY'RE FOR SALE AND NOT FOR RENT.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES.

AND WITH THIS, WE'RE TYING HIM DOWN TO THE NOTION THAT HE HAS A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION WHICH HAS COVENANTS AND RULES, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THAT WE TRY TO MAINTAIN THE CONSISTENCY OF THE SUBDIVISION AS BEST POSSIBLE.

SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED YET BY COUNCIL, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SAY THAT THIS MEETS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

I WOULD SAY THE REVERSE TYPICALLY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS DONE PRIOR BEFORE THE FINAL PLATS ARE DONE FOR THE SECTIONS.

BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, IT'S BASICALLY TO ENSURE MAINTENANCE AND ENFORCEABILITY IN THE FUTURE.

SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT PLOT SIZE? THE LAND USE? NO, MA'AM. NO, MA'AM.

ALL OF THAT WAS COVERED DURING THE ZONING OF THIS PARTICULAR APPROVAL.

THIS IS STRICTLY SUBDIVISION PLAT PRELIMINARY.

WELL, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE ANGLETON PARK PLACE SUBDIVISION, SECTION TWO AND FORWARD IT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION, SUBJECT TO THE FINAL APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. MOTION BY MS. BIERI AND A SECOND BY MR. MUNSON TO APPROVE.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM FOUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE ANGLETON ISD ELEMENTARY NUMBER SEVEN AND JUNIOR HIGH NUMBER TWO.

[4. Discussion and possible action on the Preliminary Plat of the Angleton ISD Elementary No. 7 and Junior High No. 2.]

THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ANGLETON ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS A PART OF THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT IN OUR ETJ.

I WILL SAY, AS NOTED IN THE REPORT, THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE EXECUTED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR ASHLAND, THE SCHOOL SITE.

OF COURSE YOU'VE HEARD IN THE PAST ABOUT IT.

IT FALLS ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.

WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME PLATS THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF THE STREET DEDICATIONS.

CORE HAVEN IS ONE OF THE MAJOR STREETS THAT LEADS OUT FROM 521 IN WHICH THE COMMISSION HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.

I WILL SAY SINCE THEN THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF AGREEMENTS CONSIDERED BETWEEN THE APPLICANT, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.

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I DO HAVE A COPY OF IT IN CASE SOMEONE WANTED TO GLANCE IT OVER.

IN TERMS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AND INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

THE SCHOOL IS VERY INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT HERE.

THEY'VE CONSIDERED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY IN WHICH WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON, AS YOU KNOW, JUST RECENTLY, ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THIS LAYOUT.

AND THEN SHE'S ROLLING OVER TO THE EXHIBITS IN WHICH YOU WILL SEE THE SCHOOL PLAN KEEP GOING DOWN UNTIL YOU START SEEING THE GRAPHICS.

BUT THAT'LL GIVE YOU SOME INDICATION THAT A LOT OF ATTENTION, IF YOU WOULD ZOOM IN TO THAT PARTICULAR ONE.

I THINK THAT'LL BE HELPFUL.

WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS THE MAJOR CUING INTO THE SCHOOL CAMPUS IN WHICH THIS WOULD KEEP ALL OF THE OUTFLOWING TRAFFIC FROM STACKING ONTO THE RIGHT OF WAYS.

AS YOU SEE, CORE HAVEN WOULD BE THE STREET THAT LEADS OFF OF 521 THAT'S GOING DIAGONALLY.

AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE CREATED THIS LOOP SYSTEM WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD CREATE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WHICH IS TOWARD THE EAST FOR BOTH OF THE JUNIOR HIGH AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, YOU HAVE QUEUING OF THREE LANES THAT WOULD LOOP THE CIRCLES, THAT WOULD KEEP YOUR STACKING OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS.

AND THEN ON 521, THEY'VE DOUBLED.

AND YOU HAVE BASICALLY A TWO LANE LOOP ON BOTH OF THOSE FOR BOTH SCHOOLS.

AND THIS WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE SPORTS FIELDS IN THE REAR, AS YOU SEE WITH THE CONNECTIONS.

SO THIS PARTICULAR PLAT HAS GONE BEFORE THE CITY ENGINEER.

AND THEN THE SECOND REVIEW HAS HAPPENED IN WHICH ALL OF THE COMMENTS ARE CLEARED TO DATE, WHICH WE'VE NOTED IN THE REPORT.

SO THERE ARE REALLY NO ISSUES THAT WE SEE OUTSTANDING AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE SCHOOL [INAUDIBLE] . SO I AM TIM RICHARD.

I'M THE BOND PROGRAM MANAGER FOR ANGLETON ISD FOR THE 2022 BOND PROGRAM.

SO I'M REALLY I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

OKAY. NOT NECESSARILY TO PROMOTE IT.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S THAT'S OUR BEST WISHES.

BUT AGAIN, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

AND THEN I'VE GOT A REQUEST FROM MR. YES. YEAH. AND HE'S HE'S HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

HE'S OUR SURVEYOR THAT SUBMITTED THE PLAN.

SO. SO WITH THAT, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THESE GENTLEMEN, MR. RICHARD, ON THE ON THE PICKUP, BECAUSE I ALWAYS GO BACK TO WEST SIDE WHENEVER WEST SIDE.

WE FIRST DID THAT, REMEMBER, WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT ALL THE PICKUP LINES SITTING ON THE SIDE OF HIGHWAY 35.

SO WE HAD TO GO BACK AND WE ADDED A BIG LOOP.

AND WE STILL, EVEN WITH THAT BIG LOOP AT WEST SIDE, SINCE IT'S OUR BIGGEST ELEMENTARY, WE HAVE STILL LINES PACKED UP ON 35 AT TIMES.

SO IS THIS LOOP I'M LOOKING AT IT.

IS IT BIGGER THAN WEST SIDE? YES. DO YOU MIND IF I GO UP TO THE SCREEN? WELL, CAN YOU TAKE THE MICROPHONE WITH YOU? YEAH, WE APOLOGIZE.

THE POINTERS ARE NOT UP THERE.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE. SO.

SO JUST TO POINT OUT OUR GAME PLAN, SO THIS IS 521.

SO THIS LOOP IN HERE IS STRICTLY FOR BUSSES.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BUS LOOP AND WE'RE ADDING A TURN LANE LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNAL LIGHT HERE.

THERE'S A SIGNAL LIGHT HERE.

THIS WAS ALL DONE BY THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WE DID ALONG WITH IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEVELOPER.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS COORDINATED.

SO THIS IS AGAIN, IS STRICTLY FOR AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL BUS DROP OFF.

AND THIS PARKING IS FOR LIKE AFTER SCHOOL HOURS FOR PARENTS THAT WANT TO COME VISIT.

THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD PARK.

NOW, IF YOU ARE DROPPING OFF YOUR KIDS TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, YOU WOULD ENTER OFF CAR HAVEN.

AND SO THAT IS YOUR STACKING LANE.

IN FACT, THERE'S TWO TWO LANES OF STACKING.

SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE, BUT IT'S TWO LANES OF STACKING.

AND THEN WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING FOR THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

SO THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ARE SEPARATE WHEN YOU COME IN HERE.

SO THIS IS TWO LANES FOR STACKING, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR STACKING.

SO WE UNDERSTAND.

SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THAT.

SO DID THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY ADDRESS OR RAISE THE QUESTION OF ARE THOSE DRIVEWAYS

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THANK YOU. THAT'S WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME.

AND BY THE WAY, THESE FIELDS ARE NOT GAME FIELDS.

THEY'RE PRACTICE FIELDS.

SO THERE WON'T BE ANY, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZED FOOTBALL GAMES HERE.

THIS IS STRICTLY PRACTICE.

HAS THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT SEEN THIS PLAN AND YES, GIVEN THEIR APPROVAL, THE SO WE'RE WORKING WITH QUIDDITIES OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS CONSULTANT.

THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THE PACKAGE TO TXDOT.

THEY'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH TXDOT.

SO IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING APPROVAL AND GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE CHANGING THE FOUR LANE HIGHWAY TURN LANES.

TRAFFIC LIGHTS WILL BE APPROVED BY TXDOT.

YES, SIR. BASED OFF OF OUR PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH TXDOT.

YES, SIR. AND WILL, WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE FOR THE UPGRADES ON THE ROAD? OKAY, SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO BETWEEN THE THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE DEVELOPER, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS PUT IN MONEY FOR ESCORT.

WE AGREED TO HOW MUCH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD FUND FOR THE TURN LANES AND THE SIGNAL LIGHTS AND ALSO THE IMPROVEMENT OF THESE THESE STREETS.

THESE STREETS WERE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT WE ADDED A TURN LANES TO THOSE AS WELL.

SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER AND CAME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT OF HOW MUCH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL PUT INTO ESCROW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

THE DEVELOPER IS THE ONE THAT'S LEADING THIS EFFORT.

THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE THE CONTRACTOR AND THEN WE'RE WE'RE HELPING PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS.

IS THERE A TIMELINE? YES, SIR. SO THE WE NEED TO HAVE THESE SCHOOLS OPEN FOR AUGUST OF 25.

AND YOU MAY THINK THAT'S A LONG TIME FROM NOW.

IT'S NOT I DON'T SEE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET AN ANSWER FROM TXDOT IN TIME.

WELL, WE BELIEVE WE CAN.

SO OUR GAME PLAN ON THE IN A TIME FRAME FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS IS TO TAKE PLACE IN JANUARY OF 25. THAT GIVES US, YOU KNOW, EIGHT MONTHS OF FLOAT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU.

I'VE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE.

I APPRECIATE THE.

SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, BECAUSE I BELIEVE CORAL HAVEN WAS IN FRONT OF US LAST TIME AT THE TIME BEFORE, CORRECT? YES, IT HAS.

IT'S BEEN UPGRADED TO FOUR LANES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT CONDITIONED ON ANY OUTSTANDING STAFF OR ENGINEERING COMMENTS BEING CLEARED PRIOR TO AUGUST 8TH, 2023 COUNCIL MEETING.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MISS TOWNSEND AND A SECOND FROM MISS BIERI.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING, OR YOU'RE WELCOME TO QUIETLY EXIT.

IT'S UP TO YOU. ITEM FIVE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT OF ASHLAND SECTION ONE.

[5. Discussion and possible action on the revised preliminary plat of Ashland Section 1]

YES, SIR.

HI THERE. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ASHLAND, THE SECTION ONE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

IT IS PROPOSED FOR THE 17.02 ACRE SECTION TO HAVE 58 LOTS THAT ARE 60 FOOT WIDE.

THIS IS IN THE ETJ WHERE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ZONING NECESSARILY.

BUT THEY DID COME INTO A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY WHERE THEY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM PERCENTAGE OF 10% OF 60 FOOT LOTS.

SO IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN SIGNED AND EXECUTED.

IT MEETS ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.

THE ENGINEERS REVIEWED AND CLEARED ALL OF THE COMMENTS AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

I KNOW THAT AT ONE POINT THAT YOU HAD REQUESTED FOR AN OVERALL VIEW TO SEE WHERE IT IS IN THE BIG SCHEME

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I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED.

MIC] SO THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT FIRST SECTION THERE IN THE PHASE ONE.

AND THE SCHOOL THAT WE JUST APPROVED IS SOUTH OF THERE.

IT'S TO THE NORTH OF THAT.

GOT IT. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SPOOR, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SIGNING UP.

I'M SORRY. I'M DAVID SPOOR.

I'M CHAIRMAN OF ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT ALL DRAINAGE PROJECTS, NEW DEVELOPMENT, IS SUPPOSED TO COME IN FRONT OF THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND BE APPROVED BEFORE IT EVEN SEES Y'ALL. AND I'M SORRY.

I'M GOING TO STEP ON MR. SPRIGG'S TOES HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM NOW.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM AND THEY'RE GOOD TO WORK WITH, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY APPROVAL FOR THEIR DRAINAGE OUTSIDE.

IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT.

BUT THEY CAME TO US AND THEY'RE INSIDE YOUR ETJ, SO WE'RE ON, BUT THEY STILL GOT A DRAIN TO OUR DITCH.

SO LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WORKING ON IT THOUGH.

I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP TO Y'ALL.

THANK YOU, MR. SPOOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ASK THIS QUESTION TO, BUT IS THIS ISN'T THIS OVER WHERE RONNIE DUMAS USED TO FARM RICE? I THINK IT IS. YEAH.

THIS WAS. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO IT USED TO BE IN FLOODED.

WELL, I THINK ALL OF BRAZORIA COUNTY WAS A SWAMP AT ONE TIME.

WELL, IT'S GOT TO GO SOUTH.

YEAH. GOT TO GET TO THE GOAL SOME WAY.

YOU RECALL, IS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THERE'S THE SBA, WHICH IS A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT THAT IS COMING OUT AS A RESULT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS THE THE GUIDE FOR THIS DEAL.

ANY PLATS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR THAT ANY FINAL AGENCIES WOULD APPROVE UNDER THEIR JURISDICTION.

SO MOST OF YOUR PLATS TYPICALLY WOULD RECEIVE SIGNATURE FROM ANY OF THE JURISDICTIONS ON THE PLAT AT THE FINAL BECAUSE IT WOULD STILL GO BEFORE THEIR COMMITTEES APPROPRIATELY.

SO WITH THIS IN MIND, IF YOU HAD CONCERN REGARDING DRAINAGE, THEN YOU CAN MAKE THAT SUBJECT TO ALL OF THOSE AGREEMENTS AND APPROVALS DONE BY THE PROPER AUTHORITIES THAT DO THAT.

WE DO REALIZE, AS STATED JUST BEFORE I SPOKE, SOME OF THOSE AGREEMENTS ARE STILL PENDING.

SPEAKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, THEY DO ANTICIPATE HAVING SOME FORM OF MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DISTRICT, THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT, AS A PART IN THE FINAL BEFORE ALL OF THIS IS BUILT.

AND WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHICH ARE BEING HAD ARE WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT ANY PLATS THAT YOU MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL RAISE ANY CONCERNS, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, THE FINAL DRAINAGE APPROVALS, THAT THEY BE COORDINATED APPROPRIATELY BEFORE THE PROPER AGENCIES.

AND I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE AS A RECOMMENDATION.

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YEAH. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECOMMENDATION, WE'RE ASKING FOR A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION OF THESE PARTICULAR PLATS, PRELIMINARY PLAT, SUBJECT TO ANY OUTSTANDING COMMENTS BY THE CITY ENGINEER BECAUSE HE FINALLY HAS TO APPROVE IT ON THE FINAL PLAT STAGE.

AND ANY AGENCY THAT HAS JURISDICTION SUCH AS TXDOT, THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT, BRAZORIA COUNTY DRAINAGE HAS TO APPROVE IT FINALLY, AND THEY WILL COORDINATE THAT THROUGH THEIR MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I WOULD GUESS THAT PART OF THIS IS THEY CAN DRAIN THIS AREA, BUT IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH OTHER SUBDIVISIONS AND OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT WE'VE APPROVED THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BUILT YET TO GET TO BASTROP OR HOWEVER IT'S GOING TO.

AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF THE DRAINAGE DISTRICTS.

[INAUDIBLE] THEY'RE HAVING TO FIGURE OUT IS HOW DO WE TAKE THIS WATER AND GET IT TO THE GOAL? AND THEY HAVE TO CONTROL THEIR RUNOFF RATE PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT, PRE POST AFTER DEVELOPMENT.

SO ANYTHING DOWNSTREAM, THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, FLOOD OUT THEIR NEIGHBORS PER SE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THOSE AUTHORITIES.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY ENSURE THAT THE WATER FLOW AND THE WATERSHED IS STILL MAINTAINS THE SAME FLOW AND THE SAME DRAINAGE.

I MEAN, THE WATER.

THE WATER ALWAYS GOES SOMEWHERE SO THAT WHENEVER THEY'RE DOING THOSE DRAINAGE REVIEWS THEY TYPICALLY LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MAINTAINING.

AND IT'S NOT ALL JUST GETTING DUMPED ON ONE PERSON, THE OTHER PERSON.

YEAH. BUT WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S AGRICULTURAL, WHEN IT'S A FIELD, IT CAN SIT THERE AND NOW IT'S GOT TO MOVE OUT.

SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY FIGHTING NOW IS TIME.

AND ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, WE GOT X NUMBER OF DAYS TO GET THESE WORKED OUT OR IT'S AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED.

AND IF WE GO BEYOND THESE.

AM I CORRECT ON THIS? STEP ON MY TOES HERE? NO, YOU'RE CORRECT. IN FACT, THE PREVIOUS PLATS THAT [INAUDIBLE] YOU DID A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THOSE ARE IN HOLDINGS.

SO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS SIGN A 30 DAY WAIVER AS A DEVELOPER.

AND WE DO HAVE THOSE LETTERS FOR THE ONES THAT FALL IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

SO TYPICALLY, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.

YES, THE DEVELOPER CAN REQUEST THAT 30 DAY WAIVER WHEN THEY REALIZE THAT CERTAIN AGENCY WILL TAKE A LITTLE LONGER.

SO IF YOU NEED HELP WITH THAT, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND THESE DEVELOPERS TO MAKE SURE THAT MAKE SURE THAT PROTECTS US BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANY AUTOMATIC APPROVALS AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH THEM COOPERATIVELY, THEY WILL SIGN THAT WAIVER REQUEST.

AND WE ARE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CONCEPT PLAN VERSUS I'M SORRY FOR THIS VERSUS THE PLAT IN FRONT OF US.

I MEAN, TO ME, IT ALREADY LOOKS DIFFERENT.

SO HOW CURRENT IS THE CONCEPT PLAN? SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS FOR THESE TWO SECTIONS, IT'S DECREASED IN THE NUMBER OF LOTS.

SO WITH THE DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LOTS IN I'M SORRY, CAITLIN CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER THAN ME BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME CONCERN, BUT THAT WILL PROBABLY FOLLOW UP WITH ANOTHER CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT.

BUT WHEN THEY'RE GOING LESS INTENSE AND WE CAN KEEP IT MOVING.

BUT HOWEVER WE WILL ADJUST THE PLAN TO REFLECT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN? YEAH. SO THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU'RE SEEING, I BELIEVE WAS APPROVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO YES, IT DOES VARY A LITTLE BIT.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING FOR SECTION ONE AND TWO IS THE FIRST TIME WE GOT THOSE PLATS APPROVED.

THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE.

THERE WERE FURTHER MARKET STUDIES AND A FEW AREAS OVER THERE WERE IDENTIFIED AS GOOD PLACES FOR COMMERCIAL.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON SECTION ONE, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE CHUNK KIND OF TAKEN OUT THAT SAYS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL.

FOR NOW, WE LIKE TO KEEP THOSE SEPARATE JUST BECAUSE COMMERCIAL KIND OF LAGS BEHIND RESIDENTIAL A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE NEEDED TO SUBMIT A DIFFERENT PLOT SO WE CAN KEEP THE HOMES MOVING AND HAVE THE COMMERCIAL KIND OF WAITING UNTIL WE HAVE THOSE ROOFTOPS AND THERE ARE BUYERS, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN PLAT THAT COMMERCIAL.

SO WE DO HAVE A DECREASE IN LOTS, SAME IN EACH SECTION.

THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT LESS TO MAKE UP FOR THAT COMMERCIAL.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND YOU WOULD SEE THE COMMERCIAL PLATS AND THEN AN AMENDED CONCEPT PLAN TO BE CONGRUENT OR PARALLEL WITH THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, ON THIS 30 DAY EXTENSION, I'M GOING TO CALL IT, THAT'S CONTINGENT UPON THE DEVELOPER AGREEING TO THAT

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THEY THEY DO IT AT THEIR OWN DISCRETION.

BUT AS I STATED EARLIER, THEY WERE OKAY WITH IT.

WHEN WE FIND THAT THE TIME IS CLOCK IS CLICKING AND WE CAN'T GET IT TO COUNCIL IN TIME, THEN WE'LL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND MAKE THEM REALIZE, HEY . SO EVEN IF WE APPROVE CONTINGENT UPON THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND OTHER AGENCIES DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND GIVING THEIR APPROVAL, THE CLOCK STARTS AS SOON AS WE TAKE ACTION.

UNLESS THERE'S A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL.

SO SOME OF YOUR YOUR APPROVALS COULD BE CONDITIONAL AND THAT CONDITION IS GOING TO TRACK WITH IT SO.

SO BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THIS APPROVAL CONDITIONAL, THE CLOCK WILL NOT START RUNNING, NOT FOR THAT DRAINAGE CONDITION THAT YOU PLACED ON THERE BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER AUTHORITY BEYOND YOU.

OKAY. YES, SIR.

OKAY. WE DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT IN A BIND.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE PROPOSED SECTION ONE PRELIMINARY PLAT SUBJECT TO AN AGREEMENT BEING REACHED WITH THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M DOING THAT RIGHT FOR THE MINUTES, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL WITH THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AND ACTION THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE.

YES. OR HAVE JURISDICTION JURISDICTION OVER THIS PLAT.

YES. YES. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MISS TOWNSEND AND A SECOND BY MISS BIERI.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A COMMENT.

IT. I THINK WE ALL WANT THIS TO HAPPEN, BUT I QUESTION THE TIMING.

WE HAVE ISSUES, BUT YET WE HAVE TO HURRY UP.

AND SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET IN A GREAT BIG HURRY, WE MAKE MISTAKES.

AND I KNOW THAT WAS SEEMED LIKE AN AGGRESSIVE TIMEFRAME THAT WE NEEDED TO GET THIS BUILT AND OPERATIONAL BY 2025.

AND THAT'S REALLY.

IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

AND I JUST MY COMMENT IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING ARE GOOD, BUT WE ARE IN SUCH A HURRY TO MAKE THEM.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENT.

AND POINT WELL TAKEN.

AND I WILL SAY THAT NO DIRT GETS MOVED UNTIL CERTAIN THINGS ARE APPROVED.

SO THEY'RE REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION TO GET ALL OF THESE APPROVALS.

OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, MR. MUNSON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM SIX DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ASHLAND SECTION TWO.

[6. Discussion and possible action on the revised preliminary plat for Ashland Section 2]

IT'S 14.26 ACRES.

IT HAS 62 LOTS.

THEY ARE 50 FOOT BY 120.

AS EXPLAINED PREVIOUSLY, THEY'RE IN THE ETJ, WHICH MEANS THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REGULATE THEM.

BUT THE DEVELOPER WENT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY WHERE THEY DID AGREE THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 50FT AND THAT THERE WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 10%, BUT NOT MORE THAN 50% WITHIN THIS LOT SIZING.

THIS WAS EXECUTED WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER.

IT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS OF THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT AND ALL OF THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN CLEARED EXCEPT FOR SOME MINOR TEXTUAL THAT ARE EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED AND CLEARED BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING.

WE RECOMMEND THAT IT'S APPROVED FOR CONSIDERATION BY CITY COUNCIL.

NOW, HAS THIS ONE BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS? SAME APPLIES WITH THIS. SAME APPLIES.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR LET YOU ASK QUESTIONS.

I MAKE THE IDENTICAL MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REVISED SECTION TWO PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT, SUBJECT

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AND RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AND ACTION THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MISS TOWNSEND AND MISS BIERI RESPECTIVELY.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THIS IS A COMMENT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS BEING A REALTOR AND GOING INTO SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, AND KATIE AND ALL OVER THE THE THING ON LOT SIZE IS IS THE SETBACK ON YOUR DRIVEWAYS.

RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW, YOU CAN STILL HAVE A 50 FOOT LOT BUT YOU CAN STILL PARK FOUR CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.

I'LL USE RIVER RANCH AS AN EXAMPLE.

YOU CAN PARK ONE AND A HALF CARS.

SO IN THAT'S THAT'S LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WOULD HAVE IN YOUR KATIE OR ROSENBERG OR RICHMOND AREA.

AND SO THAT MAKES IT HARD FOR CARS TO GET AROUND BECAUSE THEN THEY END UP IN THE STREET.

IF YOU GO THROUGH RIVER RANCH AT 5:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S LIKE SEVEN BASKETBALL GOALS ON THE STREET NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN PLAY IN THEIR DRIVEWAY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PUT FOUR CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.

SO THEY'RE PLAYING IN OUR STREETS AND CARS ARE WEAVING IN JUST WHEN YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE THROUGH SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND IT'S SOMETIMES THE SETBACK FOR THE CITY MIGHT BE TO CONSIDER ON THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WILL ALERT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT COUNCIL ACTUALLY HAD STAFF PRESENT A REGIONAL STUDY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO SEE WHO HAS WHAT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. SO THEY'RE AGGRESSIVELY WORKING ON UPDATING THE CODE TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID.

ALSO, LOOK AT STREET RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS AS WELL AS CUL DE SAC REQUIREMENTS TO PROTECT THE FIRE CODE ISSUES AND ACCESS QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE BEEN RAISING.

SO YOU'LL SEE A TEXT AMENDMENT COMING BEFORE YOU REALLY SOON.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE, IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

ONE OPPOSED. OKAY.

QUICK QUESTION. QUICK OBSERVATION.

I GAVE YOU A SESSION WHICH IS MUNICIPAL PILOT TRAINING.

PLEASE LOOK AT THAT.

CONSIDER IT. WE'LL PAY FOR IT.

I JUST NEED YOUR YEAS AND NAYS IF YOU WANT TO BE INCLUDED THEN WE'LL GET YOU REGISTERED FOR THAT WEBINAR.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. SPRIGGS.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.