5. Discussion and possible action to waive fees for the Vet Fest Mass Gatherings and facility permits, permit the use of Bates & Dickey Parks and Bates pavilion, and permit the consumption of alcohol within city parks.

[5. Discussion and possible action to waive fees for the Vet Fest Mass Gatherings and facility permits, permit the use of Bates & Dickey Parks and Bates pavilion, and permit the consumption of alcohol within city parks.]

AND PERMIT THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL WITHIN CITY PARKS.

MEGAN YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE MASS GATHERING PERMITS AGAIN, THAT WE TYPICALLY BRING TO YOU, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO ANY ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT MAY REQUIRE FEES BE WAIVED.

SO WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE.

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ROBERT HECKLER IS HERE THAT AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW FIRST.

SO THE WARRIORS REFUGE HAS APPROACHED CHRIS WHITTAKER ABOUT TRANSFERRING THEIR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER TO ANGLETON.

THE WARRIORS REFUGE IS REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING AS IT RELATES TO ORDINANCES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

FEES BE WAIVED FOR THE MASS GATHERINGS PERMIT AND FACILITY PERMITS.

SO IF THEY END UP UTILIZING ANY OF THE PAVILIONS AT EITHER BATES OR DICKEY, THAT THOSE ALSO BE WAIVED ON THE DATES OF NOVEMBER 11TH. THEY HAVE MENTIONED IN THEIR MASS GATHERINGS PERMIT.

YOU WILL SEE IN THE PACKET THAT'S INCLUDED AS ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON SETTING UP SOME OF THESE ITEMS THE DAY PRIOR.

USE OF BATES PARK PAVILION FOR THE EVENT.

SO IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, WE DON'T TYPICALLY RENT THAT OUT AS A FACILITY.

SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO DESIGNATE THAT, YES, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF AUTHORIZED.

AND THEN OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZATION TO PERMIT THE POSSESSION, CONSUMPTION USE OR DRINKING OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGES AT THE EVENT WITHIN DICKEY AND BATES PARKS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS A PROVISION THAT IS IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO USE OF USE OF PUBLIC PARKS AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL IN OUR PUBLIC PARKS. SO IN THINGS LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE PAST WHEN WE DID CONCERTS IN THE PARKS, WE CAME TO CITY COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE THAT THERE BE ALCOHOL PERMITTED ON THE PREMISES FOR THAT EVENT.

SO THIS WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR IN NATURE.

SO IN YOUR AGENDA SUMMARY, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF ENTERTAINMENT ITEMS THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED.

THERE'S ALSO A FLIER THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET ALONG WITH THE AGAIN, MASS GATHERINGS PERMIT SAFETY PLAN, TRAFFIC PLAN, A MULTITUDE OF DOCUMENTS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ROBERT AND HELP HIM PASS OUT ANY DOCUMENTS HE MIGHT HAVE.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN UPDATED MAP FOR YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US AND CONSIDERING THIS FOR US.

I WANT TO KIND OF EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT THE EVENT IS.

SO THE WARRIOR'S REFUGE IS A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FACILITY FOR HOMELESS VETERANS.

WE CURRENTLY HOUSE BETWEEN 50 AND 60 HOMELESS VETERANS IN OUR FACILITY.

WE PROVIDE THEM WITH SERVICES RANGING FROM MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, COUNSELING, EDUCATION AND EMPLOYMENT AND A VARIETY OF SERVICES TO HELP THEM END HOMELESSNESS IN THEIR LIVES. SO THIS EVENT IS OUR FOURTH ANNUAL VET FEST.

WE'VE HELD IT TWO YEARS IN THE CITY OF WEST COLUMBIA.

WE DO ONE YEAR IN THE BRAZORIA COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS.

AND AFTER DISCUSSION AMONG OUR STAFF, WE FELT THAT THE CITY OF ANGLETON WAS A PERFECT LOCATION FOR THIS EVENT, SO WE REQUESTED TO MOVE IT HERE.

THIS IS A RESOURCE FAIR/FUNDRAISER FOR US.

THERE WILL BE A VARIETY.

THE PLANETS HAVE A VARIETY OF VETERAN RESOURCES ON SITE AS WELL AS COMMUNITY RESOURCES, MARKET VENDORS AND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ATTRACTIONS TO BRING PEOPLE IN, SUCH AS A CAR SHOW, BIKE SHOW, BICYCLE SHOW, CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT AND DISC GOLF TOURNAMENT AND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

ULTIMATELY, OUR GOAL IS TO BRING TOGETHER THE VETERAN COMMUNITY ALONG WITH THE REGULAR COMMUNITY, AND ALSO PROVIDE OUR VETERANS WITH RESOURCES AS WELL AS PROVIDE FUNDRAISING FOR OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN WEST COLUMBIA.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

MEGAN, IN THIS APPLICATION GATHERING, I KNOW ONE THING THAT COMES UP A LOT IS.

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IN THE LIST THAT THEY PRESENTED HAS PONY RIDES.

SO ANIMALS, THAT'S FINE AS LONG AS IT'S IN THE GATHERING PERMIT.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T COME UP AND GET US LATER.

SO IT DOES. WE DO HAVE SPECIFICATIONS IN OUR ORDINANCE.

THEY, WE ROBERT AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

THEY DO HAVE TO BE ON PAVED SURFACES AND THEY DO HAVE TO CLEAN UP.

SO. OKAY.

COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE ONE ON YOUR APPLICATION.

YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT SERVING ALCOHOL.

THIS IS JUST FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING PROVIDING THEIR OWN.

OUR PLAN IS NOT TO PROVIDE ALCOHOL AS AN ORGANIZATION, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW, ESPECIALLY WITH LIKE THE CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR OWN, BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR IT TO BE AN ALCOHOL EVENT.

BUT IF THEY WANT TO, IF THEY WANT TO BRING IT, WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE ABLE TO.

BUT WE AS AN ORGANIZATION WILL NOT BE PROVIDING ANY ALCOHOL OR SELLING ALCOHOL AT ALL.

OKAY. HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OTHER GROUP DOING THE PARADE AND WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS, OR WAS THIS SOMETHING YOU ALL PUT TOGETHER YEARS AGO? AND SO COMING TO ANGLETON JUST.

SO TRADITIONALLY THE PARADE, THE TRADITIONALLY THE PARADE IS HELD ON VETERANS DAY.

AND IN OUR EVENT, IT'S HELD ON VETERANS DAY WEEKEND.

SO THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY KIND OF CONFLICT WITH THOSE TWO EVENTS.

THIS YEAR, VETERANS DAY IS ON SATURDAY.

SO THERE IS A SLIGHT SCHEDULING CONFLICT.

I HAVE SPOKE WITH THE ORGANIZERS OF THAT.

IF THERE'S NOT A COLLABORATION, SO TO SPEAK, ONE OF THE REASONS, ONE OF THE PROS OF MOVING IT TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON WAS THE PARADE WAS TAKING PLACE HERE THIS YEAR, AND IT SEEMED LIKE A NATURAL FLOW TO HAVE BASICALLY A VETERANS, A BIG VETERANS DAY IN ALL IN ONE PLACE IN THE COUNTY BETWEEN THE PARADE AND THEN AFTER THE PARADE.

SO THE PARADE STARTS AT TEN.

OUR EVENT STARTS AT TEN AS WELL TO KICK OFF.

BUT IT SHOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH THE PARADE AT ALL.

ACTUALLY, WE THINK THAT THE PARADE BEING HERE WILL ACTUALLY PROMOTE ART, WILL HELP LEAD MORE ACTIVITY IN OUR EVENT HOPEFULLY IS WHAT WE'RE DESIGNING SO THEY CAN NATURALLY FLOW FROM THE PARADE TO THE VET TO THE VET FEST.

YEAH. YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT.

YOU JUST STATED THAT BOTH START AT THE SAME TIME.

NOT TYPICALLY.

OUR START TIME IS 10 A.M., BUT TYPICALLY THE FLOW WE EXPECT TO PROBABLY NOT START SEEING A CROWD UNTIL PROBABLY AROUND 11 OR 12.

SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE A HEAVY INTERFERENCE WITH THE PARADE AT ALL.

SO I THINK THE PARADE STARTS AT 11.

THEY PROBABLY ARE LINING UP AT 9:30 OR 10:00, BUT THE ACTUAL KICKOFF IS.

I THINK THEIR EVENT GOES TO, WHAT, THREE? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH. PARADE FROM 11 TO 1.

THE GUESS, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT TERM, BUT FROM 1 TO 3 IS WHEN THEY MEET AT THE HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM, I THINK.

WHERE IS YOUR PARKING ON HERE.

I SAW STAFF PARKING.

I SEE THE CAR SHOW AREA WHERE..

THERE'S A SECOND MAP ATTACHED TO THAT.

THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER MAP WITH THE PARKING PLAN AND THE PACKET.

IF NOT, I HAVE IT.

OH, IT WAS.

WE WERE GOING TO UTILIZE. OUR PLAN IS TO UTILIZE THE FIELD BEHIND I GUESS IT'S THE OLD BASEBALL FIELD AREA HERE I GOT THIS RIGHT HERE.

SO, LIKE KINGSFIELD. THANK.

NOT HERE. AND THAT MIGHT BE IN YOUR PACKET.

THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. PAGE 35 ON THE PACKET.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID MENTION WAS TO CONSIDER PARKING, NOT KNOWING HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ANTICIPATED AT THE EVENT AND THAT THE VENDORS WOULD BE TAKING UP AN ACTIVITY, WOULD BE TAKING UP QUITE A BIT OF THE CONCRETE PAVED AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CAR SHOW.

NOT MANY CAR SHOW FOLKS WANT TO PUT THEIR CARS IN THE GRASS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY WANT TO BE ON PAVED SURFACES ALSO.

AND SO WE DID DISCUSS THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING CITY COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO DISCUSS FURTHER, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER AND WE HAVE NO ANTICIPATION OF WHAT THE WEATHER WILL BE DOING DURING THAT TIME.

SO THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

WE DID SPECIFY THAT IF THERE IS INCLEMENT WEATHER, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PERMIT PARKING IN THAT AREA.

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SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, MAYBE A CONTINGENCY PLAN.

WELL, THAT'S THAT BASEBALL FIELD IS BEING USED.

I MEAN, THE SOCCER FIELD IS BEING USED AS WELL BACK THERE.

I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY THINK WE WANT PEOPLE PARKING AND MESSING UP ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE OUT THERE.

I DON'T SUPPORT PARKING OVER THERE AT ALL.

EVEN IN THE BIG STATE TOURNAMENT THAT WE JUST HAD FOR SOFTBALL, THEY NEVER PARKED ON THE FIELD.

THEY PARKED EVERYWHERE AROUND IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T PARK ON THE FIELD.

SO. I WOULD THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.

WHAT YOU THINK. FEW THOUSAND.

ANTICIPATE BEING THAT BIG AT ALL, ACTUALLY.

OKAY. AND AGAIN, THIS WAS ONE LOCATION THAT WE DISCUSSED.

WE ALSO I BELIEVE IT WAS AERIAL I TOOK TO LAKESIDE PARK TO CONSIDER BECAUSE WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE FOOD TRUCK OUTLETS THERE IN THE PARKING LOT AND PAVED SPACES. AND THEY COULD POTENTIALLY COORDINATE WITH ACS FOR OVERFLOW PARKING.

AGAIN, THIS IS STAFF IS BRINGING THIS TO YOU AS AN APPLICATION.

THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FROM A STAFF, BUT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO BRING THIS TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL IS RECOMMENDING, ALTERNATIVE SITE STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE SITES.

SO THAT LOCATION, HAVE YOU ALL REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT USING THE PARKING LOT THERE AT CASS ACADEMY? NO, WE HAVE NOT.

OKAY. WELL, I THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY FIT ALL YOUR PEOPLE AT THE PARK THE WAY THAT SOFTBALL DOES.

EVEN USING THIS OPEN AREA FOR YOUR CAR SHOW AND EVERYTHING WHERE YOU HAVE STAFF PARKING BACK HERE.

I MEAN, TRAVIS, YOU AND I BOTH SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE DURING SOFTBALL.

THERE'S HOW MANY CARS DO YOU THINK FIT IN THAT AREA? ALL THE WAY DOWN ON BOTH SIDES.

IT'S WE'RE TALKING 75, 100 CARS.

IT'S HARD TO SAY. I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT VENDOR AREA, THE CAR SHOW AREA, IS SO HEAVILY USED.

YOU KNOW. I MEAN, I DO THINK YOU COULD GET PLENTY OF PARKING ALONG THE EXTERIOR.

BUT YOU MAY NEED THE OVERFLOW LOT.

YOU MAY WANT TO REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR CATS AND PROBABLY COME UP WITH A WAY YOU MAY WANT TO.

I KNOW IT'S COST OVERHEAD.

YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT SOME SORT OF.

SIDE BY SIDE OR RENTAL OR SOMETHING TO MOVE THOSE PEOPLE INTO.

THAT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR PLANNING AS WELL ALREADY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT.

I'M SURE YOUNGER FAMILIES WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TRAVERSING IT, BUT IF PEOPLE ARE ELDERLY, THEY MIGHT BE LESS MOBILE.

I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN ADJUST THE PLAN TO ADDRESS NOT PARKING ON THAT FIELD AND STILL BE ABLE TO HOLD THE EVENT LIKE WE DESIGNED.

IF WE CHOOSE TO LIKE WE WANT TO, AND I THINK WE CAN ADJUST THE PARKING WITH NO PROBLEM.

SO MAYBE YOU COULD APPROVE IT MINUS THE KING'S FIELD PARKING AREA AND HAVE THEM RESUBMIT BACK TO THE PARKS BOARD UPDATED PARKING PLAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER MOVING YOUR START TIME TO NOON.

OKAY. JUST SO WE'RE NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE PARADE.

THE PARADE'S GOING TO BE BIG THIS YEAR.

IT'S IN ANGLETON. WE'RE HOSTING IT.

PRETTY SURE THE HIGH SCHOOL BANDS ARE ALREADY A PART OF THE PARADE.

BEING A PARENT OF A BAND MEMBER.

SO I'VE ALREADY GOT NOTICE ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, AT LEAST TILL NOON, MAYBE ONE, BUT AT LEAST TILL NOON.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'LL IF YOU'RE EXPECTING THE PARADE TO HELP.

I MEAN, THE PARADE DOESN'T EXPECT TO END PROBABLY BETWEEN 1230 AND 1, SO I WOULD THINK THAT WOULDN'T AFFECT YOUR TOO MUCH ON THE FIRST COUPLE HOURS.

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IT STILL WOULD PROVIDE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ASKING FROM 10 TO 8.

SO YOU STILL HAVE.

NOT NOON TO EIGHT HOURS TIME, IT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM AT ALL.

OKAY. WE CAN MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT EASILY.

SO IF YOU WENT IN NOON OR YOU WANTED TO GO TO 10 P.M., YOU STILL GET THE FULL NUMBER OF HOURS.

I DON'T I WOULD SAY NINE.

JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY.

I THINK TEN IS A LITTLE LATE.

WE'VE RAN IT LATER LIKE THAT IN THE PAST AND IT IT NORMALLY DIES OUT AROUND EIGHT.

THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE THAT'S WHY WE PICKED THAT TIME.

BUT I THINK IF WE COULD DO THE NOON TO NINE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT.

OKAY. WE'LL BE DARK AT EIGHT BY THAT TIME.

OH, YEAH. BY 630, 5:00, YOU GOT PEOPLE WALKING ON THE ROAD THAT TIME OF YEAR IT GETS DARK AROUND 5 OR 6.

JOE SO AND WE HAVE THE LIGHT TREES THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE PLAN TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT AS WELL.

BUT YEAH. YEAH.

AND YOU SAID YOU HAVE A CONCERT WE WANT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MUSICAL ACT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING LIKE CRAZY.

IT'S NOT A BIG NAME. WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T SECURED IT YET, BUT WE PLAN TO KEEP IT SMALL.

JUST ONE. IT IS A IT IS A FUNDRAISER SO THAT THE BANDS ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

SO THE BIGGER THE NAME, SO AND IT DOESN'T REALLY, SO WE'RE JUST WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY LOOK AT A LOCAL BAND, WHICH WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, TRY TO FIND A LOCAL MUSIC TALENT IN THE PAST TO HELP PROMOTE THEM AND KIND OF GIVE BACK TO THE HOMETOWN SIDE OF IT AND, YOU KNOW, SMALLER, SMALLER SHOWS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR NIGHTCAP.

THE BAND WILL GO ON FROM ABOUT SIX, 630 TO 8:00, AND THEN THAT'LL BE THE END OF THE THAT'LL BE THE END OF THE EVENT AFTER THE BAND IS DONE.

RIGHT NOW I'M WITH A BAND OR WITH A PERFORMANCE.

I KNOW THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THERE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ENDS BY 9:00.

I THINK THAT'S FAIR. ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, THE BAND, WE CAN, IF THE BAND STARTS AROUND SIX, 6:30, THEY WOULD BE DOWN AROUND EIGHT 8:30.

THE BAND IS GOING TO GO ON AT SIX AND BE DONE BY EIGHT.

SO I THINK WE STILL WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEY'RE USED TO THE THE SOFTBALL NOISE, IT GETS LOUD OVER THERE.

BUT THANKS FOR THINKING OF HIM.

COUNCIL DO I HAVE ACTION OR ANY MORE QUESTIONS? DO WE NEED HIM TO COME BACK ON THE REVISED PARKING PLAN? I THINK WHAT CHRIS MENTIONED WAS YOU CAN APPROVE IT CONDITIONAL TO SUBMITTAL OF A NEW PARKING PLAN.

WE HAVE YOUR GUIDANCE.

YEAH. WITH THE TIME CHANGE AND THEN THE PARKING PLAN.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON CONDITIONAL BASED ON MOVING THE TIME DOWN AND REARRANGING THE PARKING.

SECOND.

WITH JUST CLARIFICATION, HOURS BEING 12 TO 9, 12 TO 9.

OKAY. AND THEN IN PARKING PLAN RESUBMITTED BACK TO THE PARKS.

AND PARKING [INAUDIBLE]. SORRY.

JUST TO CLARIFY, IS THAT ALSO WITH THE WAVE OF FEES, THE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE OTHER ITEMS WE'RE ADDRESSING RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE USE OF BATES PAVILION.

OKAY. OKAY.

NOW YOU'RE MOTION IS TO GO.

OKAY. AND THAT'S YOUR SECOND.

SECOND. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA TO APPROVE THE VET FEST, SUBJECT TO THE UPDATES AND CHANGES AND WAIVING THE PERMIT FEES AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL IN THE PARK.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER SIX, PRESENTATION GIVEN BY BELT HARRIS, BACIK, BROOKS, WATSON AND COMPANY AND WEAVER ON THE

[6. Presentations given by Belt Harris Pechacek, Brooks Watson & Co., and Weaver on the Professional Audit Services Request for Qualifications (RFQ) for the City of Angleton's audit]

PROFESSIONAL AUDIT SERVICES REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, RQ FOR THE CITY OF INGLETON'S AUDIT.

WHO WANTS TO LEAD THIS ONE, BILL? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE RECENTLY SUBMITTED WENT OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR A NEW AUDIT FIRM.

THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION'S BUSINESS STANDARDS OR BEST PRACTICES REQUEST SAY THAT WE SHOULD

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AT LEAST CONSIDER A NEW AUDIT FIRM NO LESS OFTEN THAN EVERY FIVE YEARS.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CHANGE, BUT IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE TO LOOK AROUND AND SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE.

SO IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS SINCE WE HAVE SUBMITTED AN RFQ FOR AN AUDIT FIRM, SO WE SENT ONE OUT.

WE RECEIVED FOUR RESPONSES.

THOSE RESPONSES WERE GRADED BY STAFF MEMBERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTS.

THE YOU HAVE THE SCORES IN YOUR PACKET AND ONE OF THE FIRMS DROPPED OUT EARLIER THIS MONTH.

SO WE NOW HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM BELL, HARRIS, BROOKS, WATSON AND WEAVER HERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.

SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO BELL HARRIS.

AND MICHELLE IS OUR TIMER.

FIVE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT.

IT'S TEN MINUTES. OKAY, TEN MINUTES, EVERYBODY.

AGAIN, PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

WE ARE THE INCUMBENT FIRM FOR YOU.

WE'VE BEEN HAD BEEN OUR PLEASURE TO BE YOUR AUDITORS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AFTER THE ENRON DEBACLE, 15 OR SO YEARS AGO, I WROTE IT DID A PAPER FOR THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, WENT BACK IN AND RESEARCHED THE BENEFITS OR PROS AND CONS OF AUDITOR ROTATION, DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON IT. SEC LOOKED AT SOME OF THEIR DATA AND OTHER DATA, AND BASICALLY WE FOUND OUT THAT ALL THE DATA THAT SUGGEST THAT SUGGESTED THAT AUDITOR ROTATION WAS GOOD WAS ACTUALLY FALSE, THAT IT RESULTED IN MORE PROBLEMS THAN GOOD.

AS A RESULT OF THAT, JUST THE NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT COME UP DURING THE TRANSITION OF AUDIT FIRMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND BASICALLY THE AICPA HAS COME BACK AND REAFFIRMED THAT OVER TIME THAT THAT THERE'S VERY LITTLE BENEFITS IN AUDIT ROTATION.

AND IN THAT ARTICLE, I BASICALLY KIND OF POSED THE QUESTION IS, WELL, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A FRESH LOOK IF IT'S A BETTER SET OF EYES.

SO YOU HAVE TWO GREAT OTHER FIRMS HERE TO THE EVENING AND CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT BOTH FIRM WEAVER, VERY LARGE FIRM HERE IN HOUSTON, GREAT PRACTICE STRUCTURE. BROOKS WATSON IS AN UPSTART IN THE AREA AS WELL.

THEY HAVE A LARGE PRACTICE WITH SMALLER CLIENTS OUT THERE.

SO YOU HAVE TWO GREAT OTHER CANDIDATES UP THERE, SO YOU CAN'T GO WRONG.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THE CHALLENGES FACED BY THE CITY THAT ON AVERAGE YOU CHANGE.

MOST ENTITIES CHANGE FINANCE DIRECTORS ON AVERAGE ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS, CITY MANAGERS, ABOUT FIVE YEARS, CITY COUNCIL ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS.

AND SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF ROTATION IN THAT PROCESS.

EVEN ON OUR SIDE WITH OUR AUDIT TEAM, OUR AUDIT MANAGERS CHANGE, OUR AUDITORS CHANGE.

THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES HAPPEN ON OUR TEAM.

SO IN ANY GIVEN YEAR, YOU'D NEVER HAVE THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE ALL SHOWING UP AT THE SAME TABLE.

THERE'S ALWAYS A NEW FACE, NEW PEOPLE, NEW INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.

SO ALWAYS NEW QUESTIONS BEING ASKED, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THE BENEFIT BASICALLY.

ALL THIS TURNOVER ROTATION OR WHATEVER, BUT THEN STILL HAVING CONTINUITY.

AND THAT'S THE THING. ONE THING THAT WE OFFER IS CONTINUITY OF THE SERVICES, BECAUSE I DOUBT THAT ANYBODY, THE CITY ITSELF, IF IT HAD A COLLECTIVE KNOWLEDGE, IT WOULD TELL YOU THE CHALLENGES YOU FACED DURING HURRICANE IKE AFTERWARDS DEALING WITH FEMA AND THE CHALLENGE THAT WE DEALT WITH ON THE GRANT SIDE OF THAT.

BUT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS ARE NOT HERE.

THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE FACED.

BUT WE FACE THAT CHALLENGE WITH NOT JUST THIS CITY, BUT ALL THE CITIES WE REPRESENT ON THE GULF COAST.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE WE BRING A LOT OF STRENGTH AND EXPERIENCE TO THE TABLE.

BROOKS WATSON WASN'T AROUND FOR FOR IKE WEAVER'S TEAM.

MOST OF THEIR TEAM CAME FROM THE DALLAS AREA, SO THEY WEREN'T AS FAMILIAR WITH THE EXPORT PROCESS.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE IKE'S THE FEMA GRANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WE HAVE THAT BENEFIT TO BRING TO YOU.

BASICALLY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST PRESENTATION, THAT THE CITY HAS A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES BEFORE IT.

WE BELIEVE WE STRIKE THE RIGHT TONE OF BRINGING TO YOU THE INFORMATION NOT IN AN INFLAMMATORY TYPE MANNER, BUT TRYING TO BRING IT TO YOU IN THE RIGHT TONE OF PRESENTING THE INFORMATION THAT IS REAL AND ACTIONABLE.

THAT AND GIVING YOU YOUR TO DO LIST OF WHAT THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE TAKE CARE OF THERE.

WE HAVE REAL CONCERNS, AS WE MENTIONED TO YOU, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME REAL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND I THINK THAT WE'RE THE BEST PEOPLE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.

OFTEN DESCRIBED, MOST PEOPLE AREN'T USED TO HIRING AUDITORS.

SO AND SO I WOULD THINK, GET THEM TO THINK IN TERMS OF, OKAY, IF YOU'RE HIRING AN ONCOLOGIST, WHO WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE AS YOUR ONCOLOGIST? WOULD YOU WANT TO CHANGE ONCOLOGIST EVERY FIVE YEARS OR WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE THE GUY THAT HAS YOUR LAST BRAIN SCAN YOUR BLOOD RESULTS AND HAVE BEEN

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MONITORING ALL THE CHANGES OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS AND IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PINPOINT THOSE SUBTLE DETAILS AND KNOW ALL THE RISK FACTORS SPECIFIC TO YOUR CHALLENGES AND GOING THROUGH IKE AND THE OTHER THINGS YOU'VE GONE THROUGH.

AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE, IS THAT KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST GLOBALLY, OF WORKING WITH CITY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AROUND THE GULF COAST AREA, BUT SPECIFICALLY HERE IN ANGLETON.

WE THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT BALANCE OF THE RIGHT SIZED FIRM.

WE'RE NOT TOO BIG, WE'RE NOT TOO SMALL, WE'RE JUST PERFECTLY FOR THE SIZE OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN WE ARE PERFECTLY SIZED TO HELP GET YOU OVER THE HURDLES OF THE THINGS THAT STAND BEFORE YOU.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT FORMAT YOU WANT TO HAVE HAVE TO DO, BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

OKAY. I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE YOU MENTIONED THE AT THE BEGINNING, THE THE ISSUES THAT WOULD OCCUR GOING TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND YOU SAID THAT, ACCORDING TO THE STUDY, THAT THERE ARE ISSUES WITH CHANGING.

CAN YOU GIVE ME TWO EXAMPLES? WELL, THE GREATEST RISK FACTORS IS JUST IN THE YEAR OF THE CHANGEOVER ITSELF.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE GREATEST, BECAUSE GENERALLY A LOT OF THE FOCUS IS JUST TRYING TO GET THE REPORT TEMPLATE SET UP.

IT'S JUST TRYING TO GET THE BASE THING SET UP.

AND SO IT IS GOING TO BE THAT YOUR FOCUS IS SO MUCH ON THAT BASIC SETUP SIDE OF THINGS.

YOU MISS THE CHANGE THAT HAPPENED DURING THIS YEAR.

AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS LIKE AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS.

THERE WAS A LARGE NUMBER OF AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS OUT HERE THAT THE DRIVING REASONS WHY THOSE AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS WERE THERE IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE PRIMARY AREA OF CONCERN.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH.

REAL QUICK QUESTION. WHAT ADDITIONAL VALUE WOULD YOUR SERVICES PROVIDE? ADDITIONAL VALUE.. OTHER THAN THE OTHER THAN THE AUDIT ENGAGEMENT ITSELF? WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF PHONE CALLS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT WE WILL TEND TO KIND OF FIELD PROBLEMS, CONCERNS, THINGS OF AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE THAT THAT EXPERIENCE OF BEING ABLE TO TAKE OFF OUR AUDITOR HAT AND TELL YOU WHAT DIFFERENT LAW FIRMS HAVE WEIGHED IN ON A PARTICULAR TOPIC OR WHAT WE'VE COMMONLY SEEN IS EXPERIENCE OUT THERE.

AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS PROBABLY GOOD GUIDANCE WHEN IT'S JUST RIGHT ON THE TIME THAT IT'S NEEDED TO STEER YOU ON A PATH OF MAKING THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE.

THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE KEY AREAS.

THE OTHER THING IS JUST BRINGING BACK BEST PRACTICES FOR AN ENTITY OF THIS SIZE.

IF WE SEE A TREND THAT'S COMING UP THAT IS WE BELIEVE IS VERY HELPFUL, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO PUSH THOSE TOPICS OUT AND BE MONITORING DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE MARKETPLACE.

SO LIKE THIS LAST YEAR WHEN SILICON VALLEY BANK WAS GOING UNDER, THEN WE STARTED PULLING OUT AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT EACH OF WHAT OUR CLIENTS COLLATERAL PLEDGE EXPOSURE TO SEE.

WE'RE ALWAYS MONITORING ANYWAY, BUT WE HAD TO QUICKLY DUST OFF TO SEE IF WE HAD ANY CLIENTS THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD BE AT A RISK FROM A COLLATERAL PLEDGE STANDPOINT OF HAVING TOO MUCH INVESTED IN A BANK DURING A BANK FAILURE TYPE SITUATION.

SO IT'S THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND BEING VERY HANDS ON.

WE ONLY WORK WITH GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.

SO IT IS OUR REALLY SOLE FOCUS.

SO WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, WE ARE ALL ON IT.

ANYBODY ELSE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YES. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, WHICH IS BROOKS WATSON AND COMPANY.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LEWIS BREEDLOVE WITH BROOKS WATSON.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

JUST TO ECHO WHAT ROBERT SAID, THE THREE FIRMS THAT YOU HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING TO CONSIDER TOP NOTCH.

I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF MEETING AND KNOWING MANY OF THESE PEOPLE FROM BOTH FIRMS, SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH WITH THEM BOTH.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, SINCE WE WE WOULD BE A NEW FIRM FOR YOU ALL, IS TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHO WE ARE AS A FIRM.

AND THEN I KIND OF JOTTED DOWN A FEW KEY POINTS.

I WANT TO ENSURE I COMMUNICATED TO YOU ALL AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

SO FIRST, WE ARE A CPA FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN AUDITING MUNICIPALITIES.

SO WE DO AND WE DO CITIES AUDITS, PRIMARILY A FEW COUNTIES.

WE DON'T AUDIT SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

SO THAT'S NOT AN AREA WHERE YOU HAVE TO COMPETE FOR OUR AUDIT SCHEDULE AND THEIR REQUIRED TIME COMPLIANCE ON THAT SIDE.

WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE AICPA GOVERNMENTAL AUDITING QUALITY CENTER.

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WE'RE PEER REVIEW COMPLIANT AS WELL AS INVOLVED IN GFOA.

WE AUDIT OVER 65 MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH [INAUDIBLE] ACCOUNTING PRONOUNCEMENTS, SINGLE AUDITS, FEDERAL GRANTS SUCH AS FEMA AND HUD AND OTHER FEDERAL ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE FEDERAL FUNDING TO CITIES.

AND WE ALSO ARE JUST VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES THAT CITIES FACE.

A FEW ASPECTS OF OUR FIRM THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HIGHLIGHTED FOR YOU ALL WAS WE ARE A PEOPLE FIRST FIRM PHILOSOPHY.

SO THERE'S TWO FACETS OF THAT THE PEOPLE, OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEN OUR CLIENTS.

SO OUR EMPLOYEES.

WE HAVE ONCE AGAIN BEEN LISTED AS A TOP ACCOUNTING FIRM TO WORK FOR.

WE HAVE AN EXTREMELY LOW TURNOVER.

IN FACT, OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS, WE'VE AVERAGED HAVING ONE EMPLOYEE LEAVE EVERY TWO YEARS AND WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN THAT.

AND WE ARE VERY PEOPLE FIRST FIRM.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE CITY IS THAT LOW TURNOVER LENDS ITSELF TO HAVING HIGHLY EXPERIENCED AUDITORS AND IT RESULTS IN A CONSISTENCY OF YOUR AUDIT TEAM.

SO THAT CITY OF ANGLETON WOULD COME TO BE ABLE TO EXPECT FROM BROOKS WATSON AS A STEADY ENGAGEMENT TEAM.

AND ON THE CLIENT SIDE, AGAIN, OUR PEOPLE FIRST FIRM PHILOSOPHY.

WE TAKE SERIOUSLY HAVING GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR OUR CLIENTS.

SO WE'RE AVAILABLE YEAR ROUND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP, ANY ACCOUNTING CONCERNS, ANY JUST GENERAL ISSUES.

WE'RE VERY USED TO GETTING PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS ON THE REGULAR FROM ALL OF OUR CLIENTS AND BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND HELP THEM PREPARE FOR ISSUES THAT WOULD RESOLVE, BE ABLE TO RESOLVE BEFORE YEAR END SO THAT WAY IT MAKES THE AUDIT PROCESS A LOT SMOOTHER AND IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE AUDIT SPECIFIC OR ACCOUNTING SPECIFIC, JUST GENERAL CONCERNS THAT MAY COME UP THAT THEY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT.

WE'RE THERE FOR THAT.

AND WE OFFER A PERSONAL TOUCH.

SO UNLIKE SOME WHERE I KNOW WE'VE WHERE WE'VE COME IN AS A NEW AUDIT FIRM, WE'VE HEARD FEEDBACK FROM OUR PAST AUDITORS DIDN'T ANSWER PHONE CALLS LIKE THIS.

THEY WEREN'T REGULARLY AVAILABLE.

AND SO WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON THAT AND TRULY TRY TO BE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTRIC.

A FEW OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

WE HAVE A STRONG EMPHASIS ON UNDERSTANDING THE POLICIES, PROCESSES AND CONTROLS WITHIN THE CITY, SO EVERY AUDITOR WILL DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S ONE AREA THAT WE REALLY TAKE A LOT OF FOCUS AND TIME JUST TO EVALUATE WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK AND EFFICIENCIES AND LOOKING FOR WHERE WHILE THERE MAY BE CONTROL WEAKNESSES, WHERE WE CAN ADD THAT VALUE AND OUR OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR CLIENTS, THEY REALLY APPRECIATE AND HAVE GIVEN US GREAT FEEDBACK ON OUR IMMEDIATE REACTION AND RESPONSE TIME TO THAT INTERACTION WHERE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO SOMETIMES IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENT CONTROLS THAT EITHER HELP WITH EFFICIENCIES OR JUST GIVE THEM MORE PEACE OF MIND OVER THE AREAS THAT THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN. WE OFFER PERIODIC CPE TO OUR CLIENTS TO GET FAMILIAR WITH UPCOMING GADSBY ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SO THINGS SUCH AS GASB 87 AND 96 MOST RECENTLY NOTED, JUST TO GET OUR CLIENTS FAMILIAR AND COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT'S COMING, WE FIND THAT OUR CLIENTS, WHEN THEY ARE UPDATED AND BROUGHT UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT'S COMING OUT, THEY FEEL MORE CONFIDENT AND THAT HELPS WITH OVERALL AUDIT PROCESS DURING THAT TIME.

AND THEN ONE UNIQUE ROLE THAT WE HAVE THAT I DON'T SEE A LOT OF AUDIT FIRMS HAVE IS WE HAVE A REPORTING SPECIALIST GROUP.

AND SO WITHIN OUR FIRM WE HAVE IT'S LED BY AN EXPERIENCED CPA, PRIOR AUDITOR.

SPECIALIZES IN FINANCIAL REPORTING.

AND SO THIS GROUP WOULD ENSURE THAT THOSE AUDIT REPORTS ARE ABLE TO BE COMPILED QUICKLY AS WELL AS UP TO THE STANDARD IN ANY NEW GATHERING PRONOUNCEMENTS OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPE.

THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE THE PROPER LANGUAGE AND VERBIAGE AND REQUIREMENTS ARE INVOLVED IN YOUR REPORT IN A TIMELY AND EFFICIENT MANNER.

I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER ANY OTHER DETAILS OF HOW WE OPERATE AS A FIRM OR PROCESSES WITHIN IT, BUT I HOPE IT HELPS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

GREAT. THANK YOU. DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. IT'S ONLY FAIR.

SO IF YOU.

SO THE ISSUE THAT I THINK WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE WAS IF YOU SWITCH OVER TO A NEW AUDITING FIRM, WHAT'S YOUR BEST RECOMMENDATION ON GETTING OVER THE HURDLE OF BEING THE NEW AUDITOR AND GETTING UP TO SPEED QUICKLY? WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WHAT ACTIONS WOULD YOU TAKE? SURE. SO WE ARE VERY USED TO THAT TRANSITION PROCESS.

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WE'VE WE'VE COME IN AS A NEW AUDITOR AS AS MR. BELL POINTED OUT, WE'RE WE'RE A FAIRLY NEWER FIRM.

WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 2010.

AND SO WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW AND AS WE'VE GROWN, HAD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THAT TRANSITION PROCESS MULTIPLE TIMES AND HAVE NEVER HAD TO HAD NEVER HAD AN ISSUE IN THAT PROCESS.

WHAT WE DO IS FIRST, AS A REQUIREMENT, WE REACH OUT TO OUR PRIOR AUDITOR.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO LOOK AT AUDIT PROCEDURES PERFORMED BY THE PRIOR AUDITOR.

OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO BEGINNING BALANCE PROCEDURES FOR THAT AUDIT, THAT NEW AUDIT YEAR.

SO WE WOULD EVALUATE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY UNIQUE ASPECTS OF THAT FINANCIAL STATEMENT THAT WAS THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME UNIQUE CONSIDERATION.

GENERALLY, MOST CITIES, MOST AREAS ARE PRETTY STANDARD.

SO ANYTHING THAT'S UNIQUE STANDS OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND WE WOULD DIG INTO THAT AREA.

GENERALLY, THERE'S NOT BEEN AN ISSUE OF PROFESSIONAL COURTESY.

AUDITORS WILL PROVIDE THE WORKPAPERS TO EXAMINE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPER PROCEDURES WERE DONE PREVIOUSLY AND ABLE TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S ANY UNIQUE ASPECT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR.

BUT OTHERWISE THERE'S IT'S THERE ARE ASPECTS TO IT.

TO HIS POINT, THERE ARE ASPECTS OF OF EVERY CITY THAT'S GOING TO BE UNIQUE.

AND SO THERE WILL BE A LEARNING CURVE OF SOME SORT.

BUT REPORTS, THEY'RE STANDARD.

GROUPINGS, WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF THE PRIOR AUDITOR'S WORKPAPERS AS WELL.

AND SO THAT'S TYPICALLY THE MOST TIME CONSUMING PART, IS GROUPING THOSE NEW ACCOUNTS.

BUT ONCE THAT'S SET, THAT'S PRETTY EASY, STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS.

YEAH. I SEE FREEPORTS ON THE LIST.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CITIES THAT YOU'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH IN BRAZORIA COUNTY? NOT THAT I'M ON AS A AS AN AUDITOR, BUT SO I'M NOT POSITIVE.

I DON'T KNOW EVERY CLIENT THAT WE HAVE INTIMATELY.

I KNOW WE HAVE MANY THAT ARE IMPACTED BY HURRICANES ON THE REGULAR.

SO LIKE ORANGE IS ONE THAT COMES TO MIND.

WE HAVE A FEW OFF THE COAST THAT DEFINITELY HAVE EVERY SINGLE YEAR, IF NOT ONE MULTIPLE AUDIT, SINGLE AUDITS TO TAKE ON.

SO IN ADDITION TO THOSE THAT ARE OFF THE COAST, MANY CITIES WELL OFF THE COAST HAVE SINGLE AUDITS REGULARLY, JUST DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF GRANTS THEY DEAL WITH.

SO WHILE THERE MAY BE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF MAYBE THE FEMA INTERACTIONS THAT ARE UNIQUE FOR FEMA IN GENERAL, FEDERAL SINGLE AUDIT, THEY'RE JUST PRETTY, PRETTY SIMILAR IN A LOT OF WAYS.

SO THE STANDARDS ARE SET ON WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS AUDITORS.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT STANDARD.

SO WOULD YOU BE OUR MAIN POINT OF CONTACT IF YOUR FIRM WAS AWARDED? I WOULD BE, YES, SIR.

ANYBODY ELSE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WOULD BE WEAVER.

MAYOR WRIGHT AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JOHN DEBURRO AND I'M AN AUDIT PARTNER WITH WEAVER.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH YOU THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS THE RFP FOR THE AUDIT SERVICES.

AS THE OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED, WE HAVE THREE FIRMS BEFORE YOU, ALL QUALITY FIRMS, AND WE'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN WHY WE FEEL THAT WEAVER IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR AUDIT SERVICES.

BEFORE I START, I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND MY TEAM.

I HAVE WITH ME GREG PETERSON AND STEPHEN SMITH.

THEY'RE PART OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM OF THE PROPOSED AUDIT TEAM FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

AND I'M A CPA IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

I'VE BEEN WITH THE FIRM FOR 19 YEARS.

I'VE GOT 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AUDITING CITIES SIMILAR TO THE THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE AICPA, I'M A MEMBER OF THE GFOAT AS WELL AS THE NATIONAL GFOAT, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL GFOAT, WHICH IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT REVIEWS THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT SIMILAR TO YOURS? I'M ON THE SPECIAL REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR THAT.

I'M ALSO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE TEXAS SOCIETY OF CPAS GOVERNMENT SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS COMMITTEE AND THE CHAIR OF THEIR SINGLE AUDIT AND GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING CONFERENCE THAT TAKES PLACE EVERY YEAR.

I WILL SERVE AS THE ENGAGEMENT PARTNER ON THE CITY'S ENGAGEMENT IF YOU SELECT OUR FIRM, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR REVIEWING WORK PAPERS, THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, RELEASING THE AUDIT OPINION AND AT THE END OF OUR AUDIT, PRESENTING THE AUDIT RESULTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND ANY OTHER MEMBERS

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THAT YOU WISH US TO, I HAVE WITH ME GREG PETERSON, WHO WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE.

HE WILL SERVE AS THE TECHNICAL REVIEW PARTNER.

THANK YOU. YEAH, PLEASURE OF BEING HERE TONIGHT.

SO, YES, MY NAME IS GREG PETERSON.

I'VE BEEN WITH WEAVER FOR 18 YEARS.

MY ENTIRE PRACTICE IS SIMILAR TO JOHN.

WE JUST SERVE THE GOVERNMENT INDUSTRY, SO I'LL BE SERVING AS A TECHNICAL REVIEW PARTNER ON THE ENGAGEMENT.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS A SECOND SET OF EYES ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THIS IS ONE OF OUR STANDARD COMMITMENTS TO QUALITY IS TO HAVE A SECONDARY PARTNER DO A REVIEW OVER THE SIGNIFICANT AUDIT AREAS.

I THINK THIS WOULD BE PARTICULARLY WELL SERVED IN A TIME OF TRANSITION AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THE TEAM STAYS FOCUSED AND ON TRACK TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING THE TREES FROM THE FOREST.

SO I WILL BE A SECONDARY CONTACT THROUGHOUT THE ENGAGEMENT, BUT MY PRIMARY ROLE WILL BE TECHNICAL REVIEW.

GREAT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS STEPHEN SMITH.

I'M THE MANAGER HERE AT WEAVER, AND ALL MY CLIENTS ARE ALSO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING MUNICIPALITIES.

MY RESPONSIBILITY ON THE ENGAGEMENT TEAM WOULD BE TO SUPERVISE THE WORK FROM THE SENIOR AND AUDIT ASSOCIATES.

THANK YOU, STEPHEN. AND I WANTED YOU TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE THE LEADERS ON THE ENGAGEMENT TEAM.

AND I'D LIKE TO NOW TELL YOU WHY WE FEEL THAT WEAVER IS THE THE BEST CHOICE FOR THE CITY FOR AUDIT SERVICES.

AND BEFORE I DO SO, I WANTED TO JUST MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, BELT HARRIS IS OBVIOUSLY A QUALITY FIRM.

YOU'VE HAD THEM FOR QUITE A PERIOD OF TIME.

THE GFOA BEST PRACTICES DO PRESCRIBE THAT FROM TIME TO TIME YOU CONSIDER THE ROTATION OF AUDITORS.

AND THAT'S FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE, TO PUT A FRESH SET OF EYES ON YOUR BOOKS AND ON THE PROCESSES AND CONTROLS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES AUDIT FIRMS GET TOO CLOSE AND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME TO BE AS OBJECTIVE AS THEY AS THEY WERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.

AND OBVIOUSLY ALSO TO ENHANCE AUDITOR INDEPENDENCE.

THAT'S AN INDEPENDENCE IN FACT, AS WELL AS APPEARANCE, SOMETIMES WITH LONGER RELATIONSHIPS.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED AND YOU'VE ASKED QUESTIONS OF THE OTHER FIRMS ABOUT HOW THE TRANSITION WOULD TAKE PLACE AND ENSURE THAT THE SMOOTH TRANSITION WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH TRANSITIONS FROM ONE CLIENT TO ANOTHER COMING TO OUR FIRM, AND WE REALLY JUST BUILD THAT INTO OUR WHOLE CULTURE AND OUR WHOLE PROCESS OF TRANSITIONING THAT WE MEET WITH THE CITY PERSONNEL.

SO WE WOULD MEET WITH PHILIP AND HIS STAFF EARLY ON TO DISCUSS WHAT TYPES OF THINGS THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED FOR THE PREVIOUS AUDIT FIRM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE THINGS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR FOR YOUR STAFF SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE TO RECREATE THE WHEEL.

AND IN ADDITION, WE ALSO, UNDER THE STANDARDS WE WILL REVIEW THE PRIOR YEAR WORK PAPERS TO SEE WHAT TYPES OF PROCEDURES WERE DONE, IF THERE WERE ANY TYPES OF RISKS THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RAMP UP TO SPEED VERY QUICKLY.

AND AS I MENTIONED, WE FEEL THAT WE'RE THE RIGHT CHOICE.

WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE WEAVER DIFFERENCE.

AND I FEEL THAT WE'RE YOU'RE IF WE'RE SELECTED, WE'RE YOUR AUDIT FIRM, NOT JUST FOR THAT AUDIT.

WE LOOK AT THE LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY AND HOW WE CAN BEST HELP THE CITY.

IT COULD BE THINGS AS SIMPLE AS SUGGESTIONS FOR GATHERING EFFICIENCIES.

MAYBE WE'VE HAD CITIES BEFORE THEY'VE USED EXCEL FOR THEIR CAPITAL ASSET RECORDS AND MAYBE THEY'RE MISSING OUT ON AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE A MODULE AS PART OF THEIR GENERAL LEDGER PACKAGE THAT'S ALREADY BUILT IN, HAS BUILT IN EFFICIENCIES, COULD BE THINGS SUCH AS WHAT I PRIDE MYSELF ON IS MAKING SURE THAT MYSELF AND MY MY STAFF ARE AVAILABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO PHILIP AND HIS STAFF ALL DURING THE YEAR.

AND I POINT THAT OUT WHEN I DO A PRESENTATION AT THE END OF THE AUDIT THAT FROM THIS TIME FORWARD UNTIL NEXT YEAR'S AUDIT, MY MYSELF AND MY STAFF ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE FIND OVER THE YEARS THAT THAT'S WHEN YOU NEED US THE MOST.

IT'S NOT JUST YOU'RE NOT WE'RE NOT YOUR AUDIT FIRM FOR JUST TWO WEEKS DURING THE YEAR.

WE'RE THERE A YEAR ROUND BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN GATSBY ISSUES NEW STANDARDS AND YOU'RE NOT SURE OF HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT, OR PERHAPS YOU HAVE A DIFFICULT TRANSACTION AND NOT SURE HOW TO RECORD THAT AS WELL.

I WELCOME THE PHONE CALL.

I WELCOME THE EMAIL.

I WANT PHILIP AND HIS STAFF TO FEEL COMFORTABLE TO REACH OUT TO US BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S A WIN WIN SITUATION.

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IF WE CAN HELP PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE TO YOU WHEN YOU NEED IT.

AND THEN IT ALSO ON THE ON THE BACK SIDE ALSO HELPS US BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT YOU'VE DONE RECORDED TRANSACTIONS CORRECTLY.

SO WE LOOK AT IT AS A LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP IN THAT WAY AND HOW WE CAN HELP THE CITY BEST.

SO WEAVER ALSO HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDES HERE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW TO MAKE THIS GO BACKWARDS.

THERE WE GO. YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AUDITING CITIES VERY SIMILAR TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITIES THAT INCLUDE SINGLE AUDITS EVERY YEAR AND ALSO PREPARE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORTS THAT RECEIVE THE GFOA CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT.

JUST LIKE THE CITY OF ANGLETON, WE AUDIT DOZENS OF CITIES IN THE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND OUR SECOND SLIDE JUST SHOWED A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF SOME OF THE VARIOUS CITIES THAT WE AUDIT.

AND OUR CLIENTS ARE VERY, VERY HAPPY WITH OUR SERVICES AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM AS WELL.

WE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR OVER SEVEN DECADES.

GAINS SEVEN DECADES OF PROVIDING AUDITS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, JUST LIKE THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF QUALITY CONTROL BUILT IN, WHETHER IT'S GREG BEING A SECONDARY PARTNER, LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PERFORMING OUR AUDITS IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL THE STANDARDS, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT THAT SECOND SET OF EYES TO CATCH ANY ANY ERRORS IN THE WORKPAPERS OR IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

AND WE HAVE A IN-DEPTH INTERNAL CONTROL QUALITY SYSTEM.

WE ALSO HAVE A PEER REVIEW DONE EVERY THREE YEARS AND EVERY SINGLE PEER REVIEW HAS RESULTED IN THE HIGHEST MARK POSSIBLE.

SO IN CONCLUSION, IF YOU CHOOSE WEAVER, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FIRM THAT HAS THE RESOURCES OF A NATIONAL FIRM AND ALSO A FIRM WITH THE CLIENT FOCUS OF A SMALLER TEXAS FIRM.

AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

GREAT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? WELL, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT MR. BELT SAID.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHEN HE SAYS A LARGE FIRM, WHAT ARE WE TALKING.

WELL, WE'RE THE WE'RE THE 32ND LARGEST FIRM IN THE COUNTRY NOW.

WE'RE HEADQUARTERED OUT OF HOUSTON.

AND WE REALLY ARE THE FIRM OF TEXAS.

WE HAVE NINE OFFICES THROUGHOUT TEXAS.

WE HAVE OVER 1000 EMPLOYEES.

BUT WE ARE A TEXAS FIRM AT HEART AND ALWAYS WILL BE AND GUZMAN OUR SPECIALTY.

ANYBODY ELSE. SO THE TEAM THAT YOU HAVE HERE TONIGHT IS THE TEAM THAT WOULD BE REPRESENTING ANGLETON.

THIS IS OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM.

THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE SUPERVISOR TIFFANY KAUFMAN AS WELL AS ASSOCIATES.

AND I GUESS THIS IS A PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR ALL THREE GROUPS, BUT HOW DID YOU HEAR ABOUT ANGLETON? I KNOW HOW YOU KNEW, BUT THE OTHER TWO, HOW WHAT LED YOU TO ANGLETON? WELL, ACTUALLY, WE RECEIVED THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM YOUR CITY, AND I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN IT.

I'M A SMALL TOWN PERSON AT HEART.

I JUST TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF.

I GREW UP IN SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE.

THAT'S WHY I HAVE THIS FUNNY ACCENT.

SO I HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR SMALLER COMMUNITIES.

AND I LIKE TO I LIKE TO HELP OUT AND BE AVAILABLE FOR FOR MY SMALLER COMMUNITY CLIENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE.

I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS CONTROLLED GROWTH AND THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT VARIOUS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, INCLUDING REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF STREETS AND AND THAT REALLY HITS HOME FOR ME.

BUT AGAIN, WE WE DID SEE THE WE SUBSCRIBED TO A SERVICE AND WE RECEIVED THE RFP FROM YOUR CITY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. RFP THAT WE RECEIVED.

OKAY. VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY BEING.

GREAT. IF I COULD JUST TAG ON TO IT AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY HAVE I BEEN IN HOUSTON FOR ABOUT 35 YEARS, BUT TENNESSEE ALBUM BUY HIS WAY ALBUM PENINSULA OCCASIONALLY.

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THIS IS MY ROUTE TO GET TO THE MICROPHONE.

THIS IS MY THIS IS MY MY BACKUP ROUTE TO GET OVER TO GALVESTON DRYER.

YES, THAT'S TRUE. I'M OVER THERE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S NICE.

IN THE AREA, WE WERE JUST AWARDED THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON'S AUDIT JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

THE CITY OF ALVIN HAS BEEN A LONGTIME CLIENT OF OURS AS WELL.

HAD THE I THINK I MENTIONED THE OTHER DAY MY TESTIMONY WORK THAT I'VE DONE AT THE BRAZORIA COUNTY COURTHOUSE.

BUT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, I HAD THE FORTUNE OR MISFORTUNE OF BEING INVOLVED IN A MATTER OF THE CITY OF PEARLAND AND TESTIFIED FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE THE GRAND JURY AND ULTIMATELY WENT TO TRIAL ON IT.

AND THEN APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO FOR THE CITY OF FREEPORT, WE DID AN INVESTIGATION THAT THE CITY OF FREEPORT AND ALSO TESTIFIED IN THAT TRIAL.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE ANGLETON AND COMING DOWN HERE MANY TIMES HAVE SOME OTHER EXPERIENCE WITHIN THE AREA.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

[7. Discussion and possible action to approve one of the three submissions for RFQ 2023-04 Professional Auditing Services.]

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ONE OF THE THREE SUBMISSIONS FOR RFQ 2020 304.

I THINK IT SHOULDN'T THAT BE RFQ 2023 DASH 24 PROFESSIONAL AUDITING SERVICES, YOU GUYS IS ZERO FOR.

YES, IT SHOULD. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL. SO WHERE WE GET TO DISCUSS IT.

I GUESS I'LL ASK THE FIRST QUESTION THAT PROBABLY IS ON THE BACK OF SOME OF OUR MINDS ON THE RFQ.

IT'S JUST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

BUT ONCE YOU GET INTO PRICING, DOES THAT COME BACK? ONCE WE DECIDE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY ONE OF THESE GUYS IS AWARDED AND THERE ARE THREE TIMES AS MUCH AS THE OTHER GUYS, DOES THAT COME BACK TO US? YES. THANK YOU.

YEAH, WE'LL COME BACK WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK QUALIFICATION WISE, ALL THREE OF THESE FIRMS ARE ALL ARE GREAT FIRMS. I THINK THEY ALL CERTAINLY BY WHAT THEY'VE REPRESENTED TO US AND WHO ELSE THEY REPRESENT AND WORK FOR ARE INDICATIONS THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL OFF AND ON SINCE OH 7 OR 0 EIGHT.

AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN BELT HARRIS.

IT WAS JUST BELT AND HARRIS FOR THE LONGEST TIME.

I THINK YOU'VE ALWAYS PROVIDED US WITH GREAT AUDITS.

YOUR LAST AUDIT THAT WE HAD IN THE LAST MEETING, YOU DIDN'T PULL ANY PUNCHES.

YOU WERE VERY FORTHCOMING AND WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO AND I APPRECIATED THAT.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW BROOKS, WATSON OR WEAVER, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING TONIGHT.

AND I LISTENED AND THINK, YOU ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

I JUST KNOW BELT HARRIS.

SAYS SOMETHING WHEN ONE OF THE PARTNERS IS HERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCIL. DO Y'ALL HAVE OPINIONS, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION.

ALL THREE OF YOU CAN WORK OUT OF HOUSTON OFFICE.

AVAILABLE FROM HOUSTON OFFICE.

OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? JUST CAME TO MIND.

WE TALK ABOUT OUR INVESTMENTS AND WE USE HILLTOP FOR INVESTMENTS IN SECURITIES, AND WE HAVE OTHER FINANCIAL THIRD PARTY SUPPORT, CORRECT? YES, SIR. HOW DO THESE GUYS STACK UP WITH WITH THOSE GUYS? DO THEY WORK PRETTY WELL WITH THOSE GUYS? I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR BROOKS, I MEAN, FOR BELL HARRIS, BECAUSE THEY WORKED VERY WELL WITH OUR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS.

AND DURING THIS LAST AUDIT, I HAVEN'T I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH ANYBODY ELSE.

OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I THINK IS RELEVANT TO THIS IS HAVE ANY OF THESE GUYS.

HAVE YOU HAD ANY REFERENCE CHECKS ON ANY OF THEM WITH ANY OTHER CITIES?

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YES, SIR. WE'VE CHECKED REFERENCES ON ALL THREE OF THEM, AND THE REFERENCES ALL CAME BACK GOOD ON ALL THREE OF THEM.

OKAY. I'M TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING FOR YOU, COUNCIL, BUT.

WELL, I MEAN, TO SPEAK TO PREVIOUS VALUATIONS WHERE WE FOLLOW THIS FORMAT, THE.

CITY HAS SET UP.

WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY FOLLOWED THE JUDGMENT OF THOSE WHO ARE.

GRADING. THIS HAS BEEN HISTORICAL, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE I DON'T REMEMBER WE VOTED ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY THAN THE TOP SCORE.

I WANT TO SAY WE DID GO OFF OF ONE, I THINK FOR AN ARCHITECT.

WE WENT OFF. YEAH, FOR THE FIRE STATION.

OKAY. I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER.

SO JUST A REMINDER.

COUNCIL FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, YOU'RE GOING TO SELECT THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRM.

AND THEN AFTER YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.

IF YOU CAN'T, THEN YOU START NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE NEXT MOST QUALIFIED FIRM.

THAT'S THE WAY STATUTORILY YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AS WITH THE ARCHITECT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR OTHER THINGS.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY COMPARISON WOULD BE THE ARCHITECT.

OKAY. SO THAT GOES TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, JOHN, THAT WHATEVER WE SELECT AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE FEES ARE AND WE CAN TELL YOU IF IT'S OTHERWISE.

SURE. WELL, MY I DON'T I DON'T GET TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT MY PERSONAL OPINION IS TO STICK WITH BELT HARRIS JUST BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY WE'VE HAD WITH THEM.

I DO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE HONEST WITH US.

THEY'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO KEEP OUR BUSINESS.

THAT'S THE IMPRESSION I'VE RECEIVED EVERY TIME.

BUT IT'S MY OPINION.

I THINK YOU CAN'T GO WRONG WITH ANY THREE OF THESE GUYS.

SO SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE STAY WITH HARRIS.

I CANNOT SAY THE LAST NAME OF THE WITHOUT BUTCHERING IT.

PECHACEK, PECHACEK, PECHACEK.

I APOLOGIZE.

I HAVE A MOTION FOR BELT HARRIS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL FOR BELT HARRIS.

A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR BELT HARRIS AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR ANY OTHER MOTIONS ? OKAY. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

I WANT TO THANK ALL THREE OF YOU FOR COMING, AND IT'S GREAT TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE GREAT THREE GREAT FIRMS RIGHT HERE IN THE HOUSTON AREA THAT WANT ANGLETON'S BUSINESS.

SO THANK YOU. SO CAN I GET MAYBE SOME CLARIFICATION REAL QUICK? SURE. THIS IS FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

I MEAN, JUST KIND OF LIKE WE DID WITH ENGINEERS, RIGHT? SURE. SELECTING THEM FOR A TIME FRAME.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT NEXT YEAR OR WHAT'S.

WELL, THERE WASN'T A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.

BUT I MEAN, I REMEMBER.

RIGHT. YOU SAID THREE YEARS.

YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.

FOR SOME REASON, THREE YEARS SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD.

OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, I GUESS FOR THE TIME PERIOD.

SO YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH TWO YEARS IF WANT.

SO TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, ALSO THAT YOUR YOUR INSTRUCTION TO MANAGEMENT IS NOT ONLY THE CHOICE OF THE MOST QUALIFIED AND THE TERM, BUT THAT YOU ARE INSTRUCTING STAFF TO TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS FOR A CONTRACT.

OKAY. WELL, WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN A VOTE, SO WOULD YOU LIKE US TO AMEND THE MOTION AND NO, NO, JUST.

JUST BECAUSE.

CHRIS YEAH, CHRIS WAS ASKING FOR DIRECTION, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

AND YES, STAFF'S DIRECTION IS TO MAKE THIS A THREE YEAR, YOU GOOD WITH THAT, TRAVIS.

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THAT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT.

THREE YEARS AND TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT.

AND SO IT'S CLEAR THAT WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU IF IT'S NOT.

SCOPE ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? NOPE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE ANGLETON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ELEMENTARY, NUMBER SEVEN AND

[8. Discussion and possible action on the Preliminary Plat of the Angleton Independent School District (ISD) Elementary No. 7 and Junior High No. 2.]

JUNIOR HIGH NUMBER TWO.

SORRY TO MAKE YOU WAIT THIS LONG.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE ANGLETON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL PLAT, WHICH WILL ACCOMMODATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF BOTH SCHOOLS.

SCHOOLS ON THIS CAMPUS.

THIS IS A PART OF THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.

THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

I'M ALSO AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, A SERIES OF PLATS HAVE COME BEFORE YOU AND MORE.

THIS PARTICULAR FIGHT WILL FALL WITHIN THAT ETJ AREA IN WHICH THERE HAVE BEEN SOME NEGOTIATIONS IN THE REGION IN TERMS OF BUILDING AGREEMENT.

THE COUNTY HAS RECENTLY WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER AND HAS APPROVED A ROLES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO THIS PROPOSED PLAN HAS GONE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THEIR LAST MEETING.

WEEKS GO. REALLY LAST WEEK.

NEW RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS.

A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED AS A PART OF THIS PLAN WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE SCHOOL AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND ANALYSIS. YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED SOME OF THOSE EXHIBITS WHICH ANSWERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS IN.

YOU ACCESS MANAGEMENT ON AND OFF THE SITE FROM 5 TO 21, IN WHICH THERE ARE TWO SIGNAL LIGHTS AS.

IT IS PART OF THE PLAN AND ALSO THE HEALING AND ACCESS ALL OF.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH MUCH DISCUSSION WE HAVE.

AT THE TIME OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SCHOOL.

THAT ALL OF THE COMMENTS, AS YOU SAW IN THE REPORT, ABOUT 14 COMMENTS WERE CLEARED BY THE TERMS OF THE PLAN ITSELF.

I'M RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO YOU.

APPROVAL OF THE PLAN.

AND OF COURSE. I.

49. STATE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS.

MIC] GREAT.

COUNCIL QUESTIONS.

SO YOU'RE SAYING ALL THE STAFF ENGINEERING COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ARE CLEARED NOW? YES, SIR. AS YOU SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE ARE SOME RESPONSE, COMMENTS, LETTER FROM THE APPLICANTS IN TERMS OF ALL THE CLEARED COMMENTS THAT THEY'VE ADDRESSED THOSE TECHNICAL.

MIC] I HAVE QUESTIONS.

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

UM, SO IF YOU'RE ON CRAB RIVER ROAD GOING TO RICHMOND AND YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT, THAT SCHOOL WHERE THEY HAD THE JUNIOR HIGH AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, OR IS IT A JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL, IS THAT KIND OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT IS IT, GEORGE RANCH.

GEORGE RANCH. TWO SCHOOLS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

BECAUSE THIS LOOKS.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWS.

IT SHOWS ONE BIG, BIG ONE.

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CONNECTED BUILDING.

YES. ELEMENTARY ON ONE SIDE.

WE NEED YOU TO MICROPHONE. I'M SORRY.

OH, I'M SORRY. OR WE CAN JUST GIVE HIM THE MIC SLIDE.

I HAVE IT UP. THIS WILL BE ONE LARGE BUILDING.

OF COURSE. SCHOOL ON THE RIGHT HAND.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING OWNERS.

SCHOOL RIGHT INSIDE JUNIOR HIGH ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

THAT IS BASICALLY DONE, TOO.

IT'S A COST SAVINGS THING IN TERMS OF THE PHYSICAL PLAN OF THE BUILDING, THE SYSTEMS INSIDE.

SO IT'S ONE SYSTEM THAT FEEDS BOTH SCHOOLS.

THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO BE DELINEATED BETWEEN DRIVES, COLORS, SIZE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO IT'LL BE VERY OBVIOUS ON WHICH SCHOOLS WHICH.

BUT AGAIN, THE BUILDINGS ARE CONNECTED.

SO UNLIKE GEORGE RANCH, GEORGE RANCH IS VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, BUT DISCONNECTED.

OURS WOULD BE CONNECTED.

OKAY. AND I GUESS IF YOU WERE TO COMPARE THIS SCHOOL THAT YOU'RE BUILDING HERE TO WEST SIDE ELEMENTARY SINCE IT WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEN IT BECAME AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE OR NO, THE SCHOOL THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WILL BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER AT WEST SIDE HOUSES, ABOUT 1100 STUDENTS.

THIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WILL SERVE 800.

THE JUNIOR HIGH WILL SERVE 1200 STUDENTS.

AND SO PROBABLY THE JUNIOR HIGH SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE MIGHT LOOK LIKE WEST SIDE.

THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, BUT PROBABLY LARGER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER CURRENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WE HAVE.

OKAY. BECAUSE WEST SIDE IS YOUR LARGEST ELEMENTARY.

OKAY. AND THEN I SAW THE COMMENTS FROM P AND Z ON QUEUING AND ALL OF THAT.

WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THAT ISSUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN QUEUE THOSE ARRIVAL TIMES.

I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE HAPPENING NOT THIS YEAR, BUT PROBABLY NEXT YEAR IS WE WILL START SPLITTING OUR SECONDARY AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ARRIVAL AND DISMISSAL TIMES.

MOST LIKELY THE SECONDARY SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO GO START MUCH EARLIER IN THE MORNING WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS STARTING MUCH LATER IN THE MORNING THAT WAY SO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE HAPPENING IN THIS INSTANCE AND THE QUEUING OF PICKUP LINES WILL BE IN THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

BASICALLY, THE JUNIOR HIGH WILL OPERATE AND BE OUT OF THERE BEFORE THE ELEMENTARY PARENTS EVER SHOW UP TO THAT AND VICE VERSA.

OKAY.

SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND USE THE.

COME ON, YOU'RE GOOD.

SO THIS PART OF THE BUILDING IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THE TOP PART IS THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

AND IN THE MIDDLE IS KIND OF COLLABORATION OF BOTH, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE TOTALLY SEPARATED.

THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE KITCHEN, WHICH WAS KIND OF AN ECONOMICAL WAY TO APPROACH THIS.

AND WHEN KITCHEN ONE CAFETERIA, WHICH IS SPLIT FOR ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

SO THE BUS ENTRY IS OFF OF 521.

THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS OFF OF CORAL HAVEN AND ITS DOUBLE STACK.

SO THIS IS TWO LINES OF CARS GOING THROUGH HERE.

SO IT TAKES A WILL ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF CARS.

AND THEN THIS IS THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL ENTRY OF SAPPHIRE SPRINGS WOODS.

SO WE ALSO HAVE THE ARCHITECTS HERE THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER.

AND AS MR. EDWARDS SAID, WE DID SPEND A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT HOW STACKING AND CIRCULATION WOULD TAKE PLACE.

SO A QUICK QUESTION. I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY JURISDICTION HERE, BUT THE QUESTION WHEN THE CARS ARE DRIVING THROUGH TO THE ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR HIGH, WHERE'S THE CROSSWALK FOR THE KIDS, FOR THE SUBDIVISION? ARE Y'ALL? WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THAT.

AND THERE WILL BE A CROSSWALK.

WE WILL MOST LIKELY THERE WILL BE A CROSSWALK HERE, CROSSWALK THERE, MOST LIKELY WE WILL EMPLOY A CROSSING GUARD HERE AND A CROSSING GUARD HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S INTERESTING IS IF THIS DEVELOPMENT BUILDS OUT TO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD OUT BETWEEN THIS PROBABLY HOLLIDAY LAKES THAT WILL FILL UP THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO IN TERMS OF BUS TRANSPORTATION FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THAT WILL BE PRETTY MINOR.

WE'RE EXPECTING NO MORE THAN THREE BUSSES ON THE ELEMENTARY SIDE AND PROBABLY MORE LIKELY TWO IS WHAT WE THINK.

THE JUNIOR HIGH WILL HAVE A LARGER EXPANSION OF ITS ATTENDANCE ZONE, THOUGH.

THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS ON THE PRACTICE FIELD AREA IS THAT THAT AREA IS PRETTY MUCH GOING TO BE FOR GROWING THE JUNIOR HIGH AREA.

OR WOULD YOU WOULD THAT BE A STADIUM AREA? THAT WILL NOT BE A STADIUM? IT WILL BE A PRACTICE FIELD ONLY, NO STANDS.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED BY LAW TO DO A STADIUM.

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WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO PASS A SEPARATE BOND WITH THAT SEPARATELY VOTED ON.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DID.

SO THERE WILL BE NO GAMES PLAYED THERE.

IT'LL JUST BE A PRACTICE FIELD ONLY IN TERMS OF EXPANSION OF THE JUNIOR HIGH.

MY BEST GUESS IS THAT WE WILL PROBABLY NOT EXPAND THIS JUNIOR HIGH.

THE GROWTH PROJECTIONS WERE SEEING AND WE HAVE A DEMOGRAPHIC REPORT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS MORE TOWARDS THE ROSHARON 1462 AND 288.

THAT CORNER, I WOULD GUESS, FUTURE GROWTH OF SCHOOLS WOULD BE THERE.

OKAY. COUNSEL.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? CANCEL ANY ACTION.

THIS, OTIS. THIS WAS A 5 0 VOTE, RIGHT? I SEE IT IN THE NOTES, BUT.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

WE'VE HAD TYPOS BEFORE.

ALL RIGHT.

THESE ARE ALL WILDCAT SCHOOLS, RIGHT? PURPLE AND WHITE. OKAY.

JUST CHECKING. ALL RIGHT.

SO WILL THERE BECOME THE PRESENT? IS ANGLETON JUNIOR HIGH.

WHAT DOES IT BECOME? WE HAVE A NAMING COMMITTEE THAT WILL TAKE PLACE THIS YEAR, AND THEY WILL FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND IF YOU, I GUESS, EVER DECIDE TO BUILD UP TOWARDS 1462 AND ROSHARON AND YOU CAN JUST NAME THAT ROSHARON HIGH SCHOOL, WE'LL HAVE A NAMING COMMITTEE, KEEP OUR ANGLETON HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY CAN HAVE THEIR ROSHARON HIGH SCHOOL.

FUNNY, I'M NOT TOUCHING THAT.

GOOD IDEA. COUNCIL DO I HAVE ACTION?.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE ANGLETON ISD ELEMENTARY NUMBER SEVEN AND JUNIOR HIGH NUMBER TWO.

SOUNDS GOOD. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA FOR APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE Y'ALL STICKING AROUND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER NINE. DISCUSSION ON A CONCEPT PROPOSAL TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2927 NORTH VALDERA STREET, CURRENTLY ZONED CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

[9. Discussion on a concept proposal to rezone property located at 2927 N. Valderas St. currently zoned C-G, General Commercial to Residential. No action required. ]

AND IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS JUST AN ITEM BEING BROUGHT TO YOU FOR FEEDBACK ON A POSSIBLE APPLICATION TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL.

WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE POTENTIAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

JUST FROM STAFF.

WE WANTED TO JUST PROVIDE YOU WITH THE UNDERLYING AREA BEING MAJORITY COMMERCIAL ON THIS SIDE OF OF THE ROAD.

2927 VALADARES NORTH VALADARES STREET IS WHERE THIS IS LOCATED, JUST ABOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE, AND THE REPRESENTATION IS HERE TO PRESENT THEIR PROPOSED USE FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, WE'LL BE GLAD TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

GREAT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS PATSY GARCIA.

MY HUSBAND, ALBERT AND I ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUYING THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND WE'RE WANTING TO REZONE IT FOR RESIDENTIAL.

AND AS IT SHOWS UP THERE, MAINLY OUR PURPOSE IS TO BUILD A BARN ON THERE AND NOT FOR COWS, HORSES, PIGS, NOTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S MOSTLY FOR STORAGE.

MY HUSBAND HAS A LOT OF STUFF THAT HE NEEDS TO GET OUT OF OUR PROPERTY AND HE HAS IT SCATTERED ALL OVER BRAZORIA COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

A BUNCH OF TRAILERS, A BUNCH OF PROPERTY, AND THEN BUILD A HOME ON THAT.

PROPERTY. TRYING TO FIND.

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YOU? OH, YEAH.

FUNNY ON ONE OF THE MAPS SHOWS IT JUST SOUTH OF CROSSING ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT ON THE OTHER ONE, IT SHOWS IT RIGHT.

THEY HAVE IT WRONG AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO FIX THAT FOR SOME REASON.

IT'S SHOWING WHERE THE DAYCARE IS AT INSTEAD OF ACROSS THE STREET.

BUT WE'RE BUYING THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE.

YEAH, IT'S SHOWING THE WRONG PROPERTY.

WHAT IS THE AREA JUST NORTH OF YOU ZONE? OTIS IS THAT AGRICULTURE? IT SAYS MULTIFAMILY.

YES, THAT'S MFR 29.

IT'S VACANT.

MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL ZONED.

THOUGHT. THE WHOLE AREA IS REALLY ODD HONESTLY.

AT ONE TIME THIS WAS ALL GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS WHY THIS PIECE IS STILL A HOLD OVER COMMERCIAL.

BUT THEN SOCIAL SECURITY CAME IN AND THEN THE CHURCH WENT IN JUST NORTH OF THAT.

AND THEN THE HOUSES NORTH OF THAT, YOU GOT HOUSES NORTH OF THAT.

AND I THINK I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OTIS THE OTHER DAY.

THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I KNOW THAT WE USED TO HAVE OVER HERE WAS LANDLOCKING, THE PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE SO THAT THERE WAS STILL A WAY TO GET ACROSS TO 208 EVENTUALLY.

THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP.

I THINK YOU CAN STILL DO THIS AND ACHIEVE THAT, CORRECT? YES. JUST SPEAKING WITH OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY LONGER THAN I HAVE, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN HAD TO CONNECT THIS AREA TO THE WEST MORE IN LINE WITH WHERE THE TRACTOR SUPPLY WOULD BE LOCATED WOULD BE THE MOST LOGICAL PLACE.

OF COURSE, ON THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS WHERE WE WOULD PLACE THAT ALIGNMENT WITH SOME STUDY, OF COURSE, AND ANALYSIS, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD TRY TO RESERVE OR PRESERVE THAT TYPE OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR FUTURE EAST WEST CONNECTION.

CORRECT. I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS YOU DO KNOW THAT RIGHT NORTH OF YOU IS MULTIFAMILY.

SO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD GO IN RIGHT NEXT TO YOU.

RIGHT. OFF TO THE SIDE.

RIGHT TO THE SIDE OF YOU.

YES. AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS COMING.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY THIS WOULD.

YOU DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL JUST NORTH OF YOU, RIGHT THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CHURCH.

THERE'S TWO CHURCHES, RIGHT? YOU HAVE THE MORMON CHURCH AND THEN THE OTHER CHURCH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW, LA VIDA.

WHAT WAS P AND Z'S COMMENTS.

SO P AND Z WAS ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF IT.

AND I THINK TO JUSTIFY IT BEING RESIDENTIAL JUST ACROSS TO THE EAST, THEY DIDN'T FEEL IT WOULD BE A MAJOR ISSUE.

THE ONLY THING THAT STAFF CAUTIONED IS THIS IS OF COURSE COMMERCIAL LAND AND IT WOULD BE GIVING UP COMMERCIAL TAX BASE.

BUT HOWEVER, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED SPOT ZONING WHEN THERE IS A ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL TYPE USES.

SO IT COULD BE JUSTIFIABLE.

SO THERE WERE NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

OKAY. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF WE DID REZONE IT TO RESIDENTIAL, WOULD WE HAVE A TIME FRAME THAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD A HOUSE? NOT WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT OR CLASSIFICATION IN WHICH, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY WOULD APPROACH THE COMMISSION, IF IT'S A PLAN DISTRICT, SOMETIMES YOU CAN HOLD THEM TO A DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE.

THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY TO LOCK IT DOWN WITH THAT TYPE OF CONDITION.

HOWEVER, WE'VE PRE-WARN THEM THAT I THINK THE INTENT MIGHT BE TO BUILD THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FIRST.

THE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITHOUT THE MAIN STRUCTURE, BUT HOWEVER, WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO APPLY FOR BOTH PERMITS, A DUAL PERMIT, WHICH WOULD BE TIME BASED, AND THEY WOULD HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO BUILD THE HOME ONCE THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS BUILT, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE UNDER THE SAME PERMIT AND IT WOULD NOT BE EXPIRED.

DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE YOU WANT TO PRESENT TO THEM? OKAY. SO WE'RE JUST IN A DISCUSSION.

YES. I'M ADAMANTLY AGAINST THIS.

I'M JUST BEING HONEST.

I THINK THEY SHOULD REMAIN COMMERCIAL.

I THINK THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD REMAIN COMMERCIAL.

I SEE THE FUTURE GROWTH OF ANGLETON AND THAT.

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BLOCK ESSENTIALLY BECOMING COMMERCIAL IF YOU WANTED TO EVER CONNECT.

I GUESS WHATEVER THAT RANCHO IS ONTO BUSINESS 288 ACROSS THAT PROPERTY, THAT'D PROBABLY BE A WISER IDEA, OR AT LEAST ON THE EDGE OF THAT PROPERTY.

AND IT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY COMMERCIAL.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE A HODGEPODGE.

WE HAVE ONE RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDED BY CHURCHES AND COMMERCIAL.

AND YOU KNOW, IF IT'S APARTMENTS OR MULTI HOME, I MEAN, IT'S LISTED AS MULTIFAMILY NOW.

BUT IF SOMEBODY CAME TO US WITH A COMMERCIAL IDEA, I'M SURE WE WOULD QUICKLY SWITCH OVER OR I SAY WE, BUT WHOEVER'S ON THE COUNCIL WOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER MAKING THAT CHANGE.

SO YEAH, I'M.

VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE THE SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE.

AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE HOW TO LIVE THEIR LIVES, AND I GET THAT.

BUT THEN I JUST THINK THIS IS NOT A GOOD USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IN THE CITY'S FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

YEAH. I MEAN, I COULD REALLY GO EITHER WAY.

IT IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT ON THE RANCHO SIDE, THERE'S NO DRIVEWAYS COMING OFF OF THAT ROAD.

AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE OTHER HOUSES THAT ARE THERE ARE ISOLATED UP NORTH.

WE'RE NOT. IT'S NOT MIXED.

IT'S KIND OF ALREADY REGROUPED.

SO. I DON'T KNOW.

I KIND OF. I CAN GO EITHER WAY ON THIS ONE.

REALLY? I MEAN, WE HAVE A SOCIAL SECURITY ONE RESIDENCE AND AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEN TWO CHURCHES.

YEAH. I'VE ALWAYS ENVISIONED THAT.

LIKE I SAID, THAT BLOCK.

MINUS WHAT'S ALREADY PRESENT ON THE NORTH END.

BUT YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THE NORTH END, THEY HAVE A DITCH THAT RUNS BEHIND IT.

IT'S NOT REALLY CONDUCIVE TO PUTTING A BIG COMMERCIAL LOT WITH A DITCH RUNNING PERIOD.

SO IT'S NOT BAD TO HAVE A RESIDENCE IF YOU SCROLL.

AND IF YOU WERE TO SCROLL. YEAH.

YOU STILL HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY THOUGH, OUT THERE.

YEAH. BUT THAT CORNER.

THAT CORNER.

TO ME, IF YOU WANT TO SAY THE MOST PRIME PROPERTY IN ANGLETON, TEXAS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

523 IN BUSINESS, 288 IS THE MOST.

AND I KNOW IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY ON THE CORNER, BUT SURE, THAT WHOLE.

FROM 523 TO 88.

TO VALIDATORS ON THE EAST, TO HENDERSON ON THE NORTH, I GUESS TO BE THE SOUTH.

I GOT FLIPPED AROUND, BUT.

THAT. IT'S, TO ME, THE MOST PROMINENT PROPERTY IN ANGLETON, TEXAS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I THINK.

AS MOST CITIES DO, THEY MOVE TOWARDS BYPASSES IN 523 SERVES AS BYPASS AND IT MOVES NORTH. IT SEEMS THE CITY SEEMS TO BE MOVING MORE NORTH FOR WHATEVER REASON.

I DON'T KNOW WHY EXACTLY THAT IS, BUT JUST THAT IT IS.

YEAH. THE ONLY REASON WHY I WOULD SUPPORT IT IS VALDERAS IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET FOR THE MOST PART, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE YOU HAVE A THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY DIFFERENT OVER THERE IS SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE THERE'S CHURCHES ALL ALONG VALDERAS EVEN DOWN RIGHT THERE BY CANON IS THAT OLD CHURCH THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

UM. AND THEN YOU HAVE HOUSES JUST NORTH OF THAT OF THOSE CHURCHES.

SO VALDERAS IS PREDOMINANTLY A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

HENDERSON, HOWEVER, IS NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

BUT THEN YOU HAVE ALL THAT PROPERTY ALONG 38 BUSINESS THAT'S STILL OPEN FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

MY ONLY MY ONLY CONCERN IS REALLY THE ROAD CROSSING AND THAT'S STILL THERE.

WE CAN STILL MAKE IT ACROSS.

THAT'S. TO ME THAT THE BIG THE BIG CONCERN IS MAKING SURE THAT THE ROAD CAN STILL GO ACROSS.

BUT, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.

OBVIOUSLY, CONNECTIVITY AND TRANSPORTATION IS IMPORTANT.

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ALSO, HAVING A ONE RESIDENT ON A VERY LARGE LOT SURROUNDED BY A BUNCH OF COMMERCIAL, THAT'S I MEAN, IF THAT'S THE CITY YOU WANT TO DEVELOP, THAT'S THE CITY YOU CAN DEVELOP.

I MEAN, THIS ISN'T AN ACTION ITEM TONIGHT, BUT.

WHAT THEY ASK FOR FEEDBACK AND I'M GIVING MINE.

I THINK I THINK THIS IS.

FOR ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED TO OTIS ABOUT, ABOUT GOING OUT AND FINDING PROPERTIES AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. TO ME, WE'RE JUST ACTUALLY GOING BACKWARDS SOME OF.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO REVERT COMMERCIAL INTO RESIDENTIAL AND IN AN AREA THAT SEEMS TO BE TRENDING COMMERCIAL.

SO CURRENTLY THE BORDER OF THAT PROPERTY WOULDN'T INTERFERE IF CROSSING WOULD EVER BECOME A CONNECTING STREET.

IT'S NORTH OF THAT PROPERTY LINE.

AND SO THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY ARE THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.

I'M I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT IS A RESIDENTIAL CHANGE FROM COMMERCIAL RATHER THAN SOMEONE COMING AND WANTING TO CHANGE COMMERCIAL TO MORE MULTIFAMILY.

I KNOW THAT IT SEEMS A MIX OVER THERE HAVING THE HOUSE NEXT TO SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE, BUT WE HAVE LITTLE POCKETS OF HOUSES ALSO ON HENDERSON.

THERE'S HOUSE AND THEN A DAYCARE AND AN OFFICE SPACE AND THEN A HOUSE AND THEN A LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FURTHER DOWN AN APARTMENT AND A CHURCH.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE PLACE NOW.

BUT IF YOU FLIP IT OVER OFF OF BUSINESS OR OFF OF BUSINESS TO 88, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BACKING UP TO IT.

SURE. YOU HAVE THAT EVERYWHERE, THOUGH.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO, OKAY, THEN LET'S THEN WE SHOULDN'T MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT COMMERCIAL BEING NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AND WHAT'S NOT MAKE IT A BIG DEAL ANYMORE. WE'LL JUST PUT POCKETS OF RESIDENTIAL RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF COMMERCIAL.

NAF CALDERAS WITH A BIGGER ROAD.

I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO KEEP IT COMMERCIAL.

IT'S GOING TO BE, THOUGH.

IT'S GOING TO WIDEN.

VALLADARES, NORTH OF HENDERSON, IS A THREE LANE ROAD RIGHT NOW.

IT'S JUST A TWO LANE AND IT DITCHES ON THE SIDE.

THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN TIME.

IT WILL. IT WILL BE CONSISTENT AND MINIMALLY, AND THE COUNTY MAY COME IN ITSELF AND THEY TO THE COUNTY TAKES OVER ABOUT HALF WAY THERE.

SO. THE CITY LINE IS NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

NOT THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDS DISCRETIONARY, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE AT SOME POINT THAT NO LONGER BE A TWO DIGIT ROAD AND BE CONSISTENT WITH BOUNDARIES THAT'S NORTH OF OR EXCUSE ME, NORTH OF SOUTH OF HENDERSON.

WITH A DESIGNATED TURN LANE THREE LANE TYPE SETUP SHOULDERS THAT WOULD FEED INTO RANCHO OFF A CROSSING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY KEEP PEOPLE FROM BEING REAR ENDED AS THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OFF OF VALDEZ.

MAYBE A STOPLIGHT AT CROSSING ON BOUNDARIES.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST LONG TERM.

YOU. NONE OF THAT'S HAPPENING WHILE I'M PROBABLY ON CITY COUNCIL, BUT I'D LIKE TO THINK SOMEBODY THOUGHT AHEAD INSTEAD OF JUST THREW SOME DARTS AND SAID, SURE.

MISS GARCIA, HAVE YOU ALREADY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE? I'M SORRY. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO CLOSE ON MONDAY, BUT THEY CHANGED IT.

THERE WERE SOME SMALL ISSUES ON IT, SO.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANT THEM TO LOSE THEIR MONEY.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I KNOW I'M GOING TO SOUND CALLOUS WHEN I SAY THIS, BUT THERE'S PROCEDURES IN PLACE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ZONING RULES AND.

THERE HAD TO BE SOME SORT OF NOTICE PROVISION THAT THIS WAS NOT ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

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AT LEAST ONE WAS ON THE MARKET, RIGHT? IT HAD TO BE KNOWN AS WAS IT? IT WAS BOTH. IT WAS LISTED FOR BOTH.

SOMEBODY GAVE YOU FALSE ADVERTISEMENTS.

OKAY. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? TRUST US ON THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TEN, DISCUSSION ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2023, 2024 BUDGET.

[10. Discussion on the Fiscal Year 2023-24 budget.]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AGAIN.

I WANTED TO START TONIGHT DISCUSSING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE CHANGED SINCE OUR LAST BUDGET MEETING.

SINCE WE LAST HAD OUR BUDGET MEETING, WE RECEIVED THE CERTIFIED ESTIMATED PROPERTY VALUES.

AND WITH THAT, WE RECEIVED THE FORM FROM THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR'S OFFICE THAT WHERE THEY USE FOLLOW THE FORMULAS SET UP SET OUT BY THE STATE ON CALCULATING OUR TAX RATES.

AND WITH THE NEW INFORMATION THAT I WAS RECEIVED, I WAS ABLE TO INCREASE OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE USING THE DE MINIMIS RATE BY $94,000.

IN THE LAST BUDGET MEETING WE HAD, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE THE AMOUNT THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR BUILDING PERMITS.

IT WAS DIRECTED TO LOWER THAT TO 500,000 FROM 600,000.

SO I HAD TO LOWER THE REVENUE.

THAT'S $100,000 DECREASE IN REVENUES.

I INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF THE GUN DEDUCTION REVENUE BY $30,000.

THAT BROUGHT THE REVENUE ACCOUNT UP TO WHERE IT TIES TO THE EXPENSE ACCOUNT AND THE ZONING VARIANCE AND PLATTING FEES THAT WE CHARGE. WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THAT COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS GOING TO COST US FOR REVIEW ENGINEERING AND LEGAL REVIEWS. AND WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT REVENUE LINE ITEM BY $116,000.

SO FROM THE LAST MEETING TO TONIGHT, WE HAVE AN INCREASE OF $140,000 IN BUDGETED REVENUE THAT WE'RE

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LOOKING AT.

IN FOR THE EXPENSES.

WE REDUCED THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEMOLITION EXPENSE TO ZERO, WHICH SAVES US $20,000.

POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS LOOKING THROUGH THEIR BUDGET AND THEY REDUCED THEIR MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS BY $23,460. WE MOVED PART OF THE INSURANCE FOR THE CITY HALL ANNEX TO THE WATER AND SEWER FUND.

WE SPLIT THAT BETWEEN THE WATER FUND AND THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THAT SAVED THE GENERAL FUND $19,000.

AND THEN WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT FUEL EXPENSE AND CHRIS DECIDED TO KEEP IT LEVEL WITH THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO IN THE GENERAL FUND, THAT SAVED US $18,251.

SO THE NET EXPENSE ADJUSTMENT WAS $80,000 LOWER.

AND SO WHEN YOU COMBINE THE TWO, WE HAVE ABOUT A $220,000 CHANGE IN OUR.

UH. GENERAL FUND.

THE WATER FUND.

I DIDN'T HAVE NEAR THE THINGS THAT I COULD.

LOOK AT AND REEVALUATE.

WE DID.

AND I'LL BE SHARING THIS WITH YOU IN A FEW MINUTES.

BUT WE WENT WE CALLED AROUND TO OTHER CITIES TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR DISCONNECT AND RECONNECT FEES WERE.

AND ONCE WE GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND WE MET WITH CHRIS, HE WE DECIDED TO TO INCREASE THE DISCONNECT FEE TO $30.

WE'RE CURRENTLY 25 AND WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE A RECONNECT FEE OF $25.

THOSE TWO ITEMS COMBINED WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $60,000 FOR THE WATER AND SEWER FUND.

THE ON THE EXPENSE SIDE.

IT WAS NOT NEAR AS GOOD.

THE WHEN I WENT WE FIRST WENT THROUGH THE UTILITY FUND OR THE WATER AND SEWER FUND.

ON THAT SATURDAY, I HAD MISSED THE UTILITY EXPENSES LIKE THE LIGHT BILL BASICALLY FOR THE UTILITY FUND.

THAT WAS $253,000 THAT I HAD TO ADD BACK IN AN EXTRA EXPENSE.

THE AFTER THAT MEETING, CHRIS INSTRUCTED ME TO MOVE THE METER TECH FROM IN THE UTILITY OFFICE FROM A DECISION PACKAGE INTO THE BASE BUDGET.

SO THAT INCREASED THE BASE BUDGET BY $56,000.

AND WE DID LOWER THE EXPENSES BY LOOKING AT THE FUEL AGAIN, $4,000.

SO THAT THE NET CHANGE THERE OR THE TOTAL CHANGE IN EXPENSES WAS $305,000 HIGHER. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $240,000 DECREASE IN ENDING BALANCE FOR THE WATER FUND, JUST NETTING THE 305,000 AGAINST THE 60,000.

AND THEN THERE WERE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE ASKED LAST TIME.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS.

WE WERE ASKED TO REVIEW THE CUT OFF FEES.

THERE WAS A WE WERE ASKED ABOUT THE HOW MUCH OTHER CITIES WERE PAYING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES HEALTH INSURANCE AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR. I TALKED WITH COLLEEN ABOUT THAT AND THE OTHER CITIES ARE STILL TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO RIGHT NOW.

NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE.

THEY'RE STILL EVALUATING THEIR UH, THEIR BUDGETS.

ONE ONE OF THE CITIES, I THINK SHE SAID, HAD A 4% INCREASE.

WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THEIR WHAT THEY WERE SPENDING BY 4%.

BUT THE I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

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I WAS ASKED WHY THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT SALARIES FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR TO THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT WERE IMPACTED.

THAT IS, WE MET THE FORMER COURT CLERK WAS PAID QUITE A BIT MORE THAN THE STAFF IS BEING PAID NOW.

AND WE MOVED I MOVED THE.

UH, THE THE PART TIME ASSOCIATE JUDGE FROM REGULAR FROM FULL TIME TO PART TIME SALARY.

AND SO THAT THE SALARY LINE ITSELF DID GO DOWN QUITE A BIT FOR THAT REASON.

UH, DO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR OVER THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED? OKAY.

THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE GENERAL FUND.

AND IF YOU THE BASE BUDGET, WE ARE SHOWING TOTAL REVENUES OF $19,070,000. WE'RE BUDGETING TOTAL EXPENSES OF 18,000.

18,822,000. SO WE HAVE A NET INCREASE IN THE BUDGET OF $247,000. THAT'S REVENUES OVER EXPENSES.

SO TO CLARIFY THAT, PHIL, THAT'S REVENUE THAT WE CAN USE OR NOT USE FOR PROJECTS THIS YEAR OFF THE DECISION PACKAGE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THE IN THE WATER AND SEWER FUND, WE'RE SHOWING OUR BUDGETED REVENUES OF $11,249,000 AND BASED EXPENSES OF 11,215,000.

SO THAT LEAVES US ABOUT $33,000 THAT WE COULD USE FOR OTHER PROJECTS.

IN THE RECREATION FUND, WE'RE SHOWING $420,000 IN BASIC REVENUES AND $428,000 IN EXPENSES.

IN THE RECREATION CENTER.

AGAIN, THAT ONE IS BALANCED AT $1,007,000 IN REVENUE AND $1,007,000 IN EXPENSES.

BUT THEN WE HAVE THE DECISION PACKAGES.

THIS SPREADSHEET IS A SPREADSHEET THAT WE WAS COMPILED WHEN WE WERE ASKED WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO THE VARIOUS CITIES, NEIGHBORING CITIES ABOUT THEIR WATER DISCONNECT AND RECONNECT FEES.

CURRENTLY WE CHARGE A DISCONNECT FEE OF $25.

PEARLAND CHARGES 50.

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AND DANBURY DOES NOT CHARGE A DISCONNECT FEE, BUT THEY CHARGE A $50 RECONNECT FEE.

WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE GO UP TO $30 ON THE DISCONNECT FEE AND $25 ON THE RECONNECT FEE.

AND CURRENTLY YOU WERE NOT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CUT ANYBODY OFF THAT UNLESS THERE ARE TWO MONTHS OLD OR OLDER.

WE JUST THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO GO OUT AND DO THE CUT OFFS AND THEN DO THE OTHER JOBS I HAVE TO DO.

SO WE'RE WE'RE STILL ABOUT 60 DAYS.

YOU STILL HAVE ABOUT 60 DAYS BEFORE YOU CAN GET YOUR WATER CUT OFF.

THE ADDITION OF THE SECOND TECH WOULD SPEED THAT UP SOME.

CURRENTLY, YOU WOULD BE CHARGED YOUR DISCONNECT FEE AS OF THE SIXTH OF THE MONTH FOLLOWING YOUR BILLS DUE ON THE FIFTH THE NEXT DAY YOU'RE CHARGED THE $25 DISCONNECT FEE.

IT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL IN THAT FILE.

I. THEY'RE ALL THE DUE DATES FOR.

THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.

SO SOME OF THEM SAY 10TH OF THE FOLLOWING MONTH.

WELL, WHAT WAS THE DUE DATE? IT'D BE KIND OF NICE TO UNDERSTAND.

JUST APPLES TO APPLES.

SURE, I CAN DO THAT.

AND BREAK IT DOWN TWO DAYS.

SO WE'RE ALL EQUAL. SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. WAIT.

JACKSON IS PROBABLY THE MOST FORWARD.

I APOLOGIZE. I CAN'T FIND THE FILE I WAS LOOKING FOR.

IN THE FILE IS GONE.

I APOLOGIZE.

I HAD PREPARED A FILE ON THE PACK, THE PACKAGES, AND WHERE I ASK EVERYONE TO RANK THEM.

AND MY ANALYSIS FILE IS GONE.

SO I WILL BRING UP THE PACKAGES INSTEAD.

WELL. SO I GUESS BEFORE WE GO THERE, I MEAN, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS AT THIS POINT? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT.

TO WHAT RATE DO WE GO TO AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO FUND?

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BACK.

I'LL SPEAK LAST.

AND I'M SAYING THAT PARTLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR GUIDANCE ON WHAT PRIORITIES FOR THE DECISION PACKAGES ARE.

SO IT'S KIND OF A DIFFICULT DISCUSSION TO SAY.

IF WE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE, WHAT WOULD WE FUND? GOING TO BE HONEST. YEAH.

AND THAT COULD BE A LATER DISCUSSION.

AGAIN, TO SAY IF WE HAVE REVENUE TO SPEND.

OVER EXPENSES.

WHAT PACKAGES OR NOT DO WE WANT TO FUND? AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, JOHN, YOU AND I AND AND AND AT THE BUDGET MEETINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT JOE MORROW LOOKING AT OUR DEBT CAPACITY THAT WOULD BECOME OUR DEBT FOR NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

SO WHAT AMOUNT WOULD THAT BE AND AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO AGAIN, WE COULD TAKE SOME OF THESE AND MAYBE RECOMMEND THEM FOR A BOND PACKAGE IN ADDITION TO ADDITIONAL ROADS OR THE TEXTILE GRANT OR HENDERSON ROAD OR WHATEVER, THE MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO.

BUT MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO DO, PHIL, IS TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE DECISION PACKAGES AND MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PROBABLY FAVORABLE FOR A 20 TO 30 YEAR BOND AND PULL THOSE OUT AND BRING THAT BACK.

AS A WE LOOKED AT DECISION PACKAGES.

HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE SPENDING AND THEN THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE LAPTOPS THAT TO ME, THAT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE FOR A BOND.

SOMETHING THAT WE BASICALLY WANT TO SPEND CASH ON.

NO. OKAY.

NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE TAX RATE CALCULATION.

THE I'M GOING TO SHOW MY AGE BACK WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN CITY GOVERNMENT.

30 PLUS YEARS AGO, PROPERTY TAX CALCULATIONS WERE PRETTY SIMPLE.

YOU FIGURED OUT HOW MUCH YOUR PROPERTY VALUES WERE.

YOU CAME UP WITH YOUR DEBT SERVICE RATE AND THEN YOU CAME UP WITH A KNOWN RATE.

SINCE THE MID 80S, THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE A LOT OF THINGS TO REIN IN PROPERTY TAX RATES, AND THEY'VE ALSO MADE THE CALCULATION A WHOLE LOT MORE COMPLICATED.

I'VE TRIED TO SIMPLIFY IT WITH THIS SPREADSHEET, BUT THE CALCULATION THAT THE COUNTY PREPARES AND SENDS TO US IS LIKE TEN PAGES LONG.

SO. START OFF WITH OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS 6.618760. WITH WE HAD AN ADJUSTED PROPERTY VALUE OF $1,417,854,000. AND IN FISCAL YEAR 2223, THE ADJUSTED LEVY WAS $8,774,000.

NOW FOR OUR CURRENT OR FOR 23-24, THE CERTIFIED VALUES THAT WE RECEIVED, THE TOTAL VALUE WAS $1,000,000,773 MILLION.

AND THEN FROM THAT AMOUNT YOU BACK OUT THE VALUE OF THE NEW PROPERTY THAT WAS ADDED TO THE TAX ROLLS IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THAT'S $60 MILLION.

THEN YOU TAKE THAT COMES UP WITH AN ADJUSTED TAXABLE VALUE FOR THE 23-24 YEAR OF 1,000,000,760

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712,000 712,000,666 665,000.

AND THEN TO THAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE LOOK AT TO OR THE VALUE WE LOOK AT TO CALCULATE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS THE TAX RATE THAT WILL GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE, PROPERTY TAX REVENUE AS YOU AS WE RECEIVED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

SO IT AND THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR 23-24 IS 0.512315. THE FROM THERE, WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT RATE AND DIVIDE IT BETWEEN ONIUM AND DEBT SERVICE.

THE 22 OR 2223 O&M LEVY WAS $7,351,000. IF YOU DIVIDE THAT BY THE ADJUSTED TAXABLE VALUE, WE COME UP WITH A NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF 42.9 CENTS PER $100 VALUATION.

AND FROM THERE WE MULTIPLY THAT TIMES THREE AND A HALF, 1.035 TO COME UP WITH THE VOTER APPROVAL M&O RATE, WHICH IS $0.44.

THE NEXT STEP IS TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEVY TO PAY OUR DEBT SERVICE FOR THE CURRENT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

WE'RE ESTIMATING OUR WE'LL NEED TO GENERATE $1,203,000 IN PROPERTY TAXES TO PAY THE THE GENERAL FUND DEBT SERVICE.

THE DEBT SERVICE RATE IS 6.7.09.

NOW YOU ADD THAT TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OR O&M RATE AND YOU COME UP WITH A VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF 51.21.9 CENTS.

THEN, BUT THE LEGISLATURE DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO, GAVE SMALLER CITIES AN AMOUNT OR A WAY TO GENERATE EXTRA REVENUE.

WHEN THEY STARTED LOWERING THE AMOUNT THAT WE COULD RAISE PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE 3.5% ON OUR DEBT, ON OUR PROPERTY BASE IS NOT HARDLY ANYTHING BUT 3.5% ON HOUSTON.

THAT'S HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SO THE STATE LEGISLATURE DEVELOPED WHAT THEY CALL IT, THE DE MINIMIS RATE, AND THAT IS THE RATE THAT WILL GENERATE AN EXTRA $500,000 IN REVENUE.

AND TO CALCULATE THAT YOU JUST TAKE 500,000 AND DIVIDE IT BY THE TAXABLE VALUE.

THAT IS 2.8 CENTS.

SO THE DE MINIMIS RATE IS 52.5 CENTS.

FOR $100 VALUATION.

THAT IS THE RATE THAT I USED, THAT WE USED WHEN WE WERE CALCULATING THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

SO I WENT THROUGH THAT QUICKLY.

I'LL BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BILL, IF YOU TAKE THE 2223 TAX RATE 0.61876.

YOU BREAK THAT DOWN BETWEEN M AND O AND I AND S SO WE CAN HAVE APPLE'S DISCUSSION.

IS YOUR VOTER APPROVAL IS 0.44.

YOUR NET NEW REVENUE IS 0.51.

DOES THAT 0.51 INCLUDE THE $0.06 ON THE DEBT RATE? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YES, IT DOES.

CLEAR COMPARISON OF CURRENT YEAR VERSUS NEXT YEAR.

SURE.

WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT? I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT I'M NOT GIVING A PLUG TO THE NEW TAX OFFICE WEBSITE.

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IT'S VERY UNHELPFUL.

THE OLD ONE WAS MUCH BETTER.

IT'S MUCH CLEARER.

USED TO BREAK ALL THAT OUT.

NOW IT JUST GIVES YOU ONE TOTAL RATE.

OKAY.

OKAY. THE CURRENT M&O RATE IS 0.517.

AND THE CURRENT INTEREST RATE IS $0.10.

THANKS. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE.

THE DE MINIMIS RATE.

525367. THAT INCLUDES THE $0.06 ON ON THE DEBT RATE.

YES, SIR.

CAN. GO AHEAD. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX CALCULATION? OKAY. UH, THE NEXT STEP IN THE BUDGET PROCESS WILL BE LATER IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

WE'LL BE ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON A RESOLUTION TO TO SET THE HIGHEST TAX RATE THAT WE THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER TO ADOPT IN SEPTEMBER. AND THEN WE WILL NEXT MONTH OR LATER THIS MONTH.

I GUESS THIS IS AUGUST.

WE WILL START WE WILL ADVERTISE OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AND A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET.

UH, WE WILL HAVE TO ACT THAT NIGHT ON THE BUDGET, I THINK.

DON'T. I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TIMELINE.

BASICALLY, I'LL BE ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE AT THE SAME MEETING.

THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY.

YOU CAN. I THINK IT'S THE TAX RATE YOU CAN VOTE ON ADOPT WITH AFTER SEVEN DAYS, NO MORE THAN SEVEN DAYS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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BUT FOR EXPEDIENCY SAKE.

AND IT'S JUST IT WORKS EASIER TO HAVE IT ON THE SAME MEETING AND THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

LET ME ASK YOU JUST A CLARITY QUESTION.

SO WHATEVER RATE GETS SET? AND. TWO AGENDA ITEMS FOR NOW.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE MAX.

SO IF IF WE SET IT JUST, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, BUT THEN DOWN THE LINE, WE WANT IT TO CHANGE TO SOMETHING ELSE.

WHAT'S WHAT'S THE.

WE COULD NOT GO ANY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE SET TONIGHT.

BUT WE COULD GO LOWER. WE COULD GO LOWER.

AND CURRENTLY OUR BUDGET.

BASED ON THE DE MINIMIS BRING IN 500 GRAND.

BUT WE HAVE 250 GRAND OF WIGGLE ROOM.

YES, MA'AM. ON TOP OF THE NEW REVENUE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN THIS YEAR, YOU'RE BRINGING IN YOU'RE SETTING A DE MINIMIS RATE OF 500,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE ON TOP OF THE NEW REVENUE THAT YOU'VE GENERATED, WHICH WAS, WHAT, 100 AND.

60. I WANT TO SAY 130.

I DON'T WE TALKED ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE AMOUNT WE CAME UP WITH.

IT WOULD BE SHOULDN'T BE IN THE CALCULATION RIGHT . IS THAT WHAT WE CAME UP WITH THE OTHER DAY, MAYOR? THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.

309,000. I THINK IT WAS.

I THINK THAT WAS THE NUMBER.

THAT WAS THE NUMBER.

OKAY. SO 800,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE YEAR OVER YEAR FROM WHAT? WELL, YOU HAVE NEW REVENUE OF 309,000 AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DE MINIMIS RATE THAT RAISES ANOTHER 500,000.

SO 800,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE YEAR OVER YEAR.

OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER TEN? JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS.

THE VOTER APPROVED RATE IS A RATE THAT'S JUST BELOW WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO FOR IT TO RAISE YOUR TAXES.

ANY HIGHER PERCENTAGE RATE HIGHER.

EXCUSE ME. THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS THE RATE THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO EXCEED WITHOUT GOING TO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO THAT'S THE LAST AMOUNT YOU COULD RAISE THE TAX RATE WITHOUT SEEKING VOTER APPROVAL? YES. BUT BECAUSE WE ARE A CITY UNDER $30,000, WE CAN GENERATE USING THE DE MINIMIS RATE, WE CAN GENERATE A HIGHER TAX.

WE CAN ADOPT A HIGHER TAX RATE THEN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

RIGHT. YOU MEAN 30,000 PEOPLE? YES, $30.

30,000 PEOPLE.

THE DE MINIMIS RATE IS IS WHAT WE COULD TO GENERATE 500,000 EXTRA DOLLARS.

IN REVENUE.

WHICH FALLS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN YOUR NO NEW NET REVENUE AND YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

JUST MAKING SURE I'M CLEAR ON THAT.

YEAH. WELL, ACTUALLY, THIS YEAR, THE DE MINIMIS RATE IS HIGHER THAN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

YES. I WAS WONDERING.

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BUT IF WE HAD THE BUDGET.

VOTER APPROVAL WOULD BE.

NEGATIVE. HONESTLY, I DIDN'T EVEN CALCULATE.

IT WOULD GENERATE 7,609,000 AND.

THE DE MINIMIS RATE GENERATES 7,900,000.

YES. AS WELL. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

$300,000 DIFFERENCE.

SO IT WOULD BE. WE WOULD BE.

YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. COUNCILMAN.

WE WOULD BE -50 GRAND.

WE WENT WITH THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

ON OUR CURRENT BUDGET NUMBERS.

OKAY. COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I GUESS WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 11.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPERTY CASUALTY DEDUCTIBLES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 2024 BUDGET.

[11. Discussion and possible action on the property casualty deductibles for Fiscal Year 2023- 2024 budget. ]

SO REAL QUICK, THIS IS ITEM DISCUSSION DURING BUDGET.

SO WE FELT IT WAS PRUDENT TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT YOU WANT TO CHANGE DEDUCTIBLES BECAUSE IT HAS RISK AND SAVINGS AND OR NOT SAVINGS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

AS WE DISCUSSED IN ONE OF OUR BUDGET MEETINGS, I WAS ASKED TO COME BACK WITH SOME ALTERNATIVE DEDUCTIBLES FOR OUR PROPERTY AND CASUALTY PROGRAM.

UM, I HAVE LOOKED AT THE PROGRAM AND MY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT WE MOVE OUR AUTO LIABILITY DEDUCTIBLE TO $2,500. WE MOVE OUR AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE TO 2500.

WE MOVE OUR GENERAL LIABILITY TO 2500.

WE MOVE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY TO 5000 AND OUR PROPERTY TO 5000.

ON AVERAGE, OUR AUTO CLAIMS, WE GENERATE 8.8 CLAIMS PER YEAR.

THE AVERAGE COST PER YEAR IS A LITTLE OVER $95,000.

FOR GENERAL LIABILITY, WE GENERATE 8.4 CLAIMS ON AVERAGE AT A COST OF 21.6828 PER YEAR.

OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY WE GENERATE ON AVERAGE 0.8 CLAIMS PER YEAR AT A COST OF $196.

AND ON AVERAGE, OUR PROPERTY CLAIMS COME TO TWO PER YEAR AT A COST OF $13,956.

IF WE STAY WITH OUR CURRENT DEDUCTIBLES, WE WOULD SEE A SAVINGS OF $19,202.

IF WE GO UP TO THE RECOMMENDED DEDUCTIBLES, WE WOULD SEE A SAVINGS OF $50,797.

AND THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINING THE SAME LIMITS OF COVERAGE WE HAVE NOW.

AND, OF COURSE.

SEE. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ARIZONA EMISSIONS THEFT AND DISAPPEARANCE, COMPUTER FRAUD, PUBLIC DISHONESTY, FORGERY OR ALTERATION. CYBER LIABILITY.

WIND, HAIL AND FLOOD, WIND, HAIL AND FLOOD ARE QUOTED NORMALLY ABOUT THE JANUARY TIME FRAME.

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CYBER LIABILITY.

I'M WAITING FOR A QUOTE NOW, AND THE OTHER ITEMS ARE A NOMINAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND WE KEEP THEM AT THE SAME RATE.

WE DON'T GENERATE CLAIMS AND IT'S NOT THAT MUCH.

SO THE DOWNSIDE IS IF YOU INCREASE YOUR DEDUCTION.

I PAY MORE OUT OF POCKET.

HAVE A MAGIC FUND. RIGHT.

AND THE SHEET YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN.

I WAS ASKED ABOUT IF WE WENT TO THE MAX DEDUCTIBLE.

AND SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE MAX THAT THE MAX DEDUCTIBLE WE CAN GO TO.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING.

SO YOU HAVE BUDGETED AMOUNT THE SAME FOR THE PRIOR YEAR IN THIS FORM.

RIGHT. JUST TO SHOW US THE DIFFERENCE.

YES. OKAY.

HOW MANY CLAIMS DID WE HAVE LAST YEAR? THE LAST FIVE YEARS? WELL, WE AVERAGED 8.8 A YEAR.

SO A LITTLE FOR WHICH LINE OF BUSINESS WE'RE TALKING AUTO OR CAN WE MOVE DIFFERENT DEDUCTIBLES ON DIFFERENT GROUPS? YOU CAN HAVE YOU CAN SELECT A DEDUCTIBLE FOR ANY ONE OF THESE LINES OF BUSINESS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE.

THE ONLY ONE YOU CANNOT IS WORKERS COMP.

WE DON'T HAVE A DEDUCTIBLE FOR THAT.

SO, I MEAN, YOU CAN GO AS HIGH AS 25,000 ON THE AUTO LIABILITY.

PHYSICAL DAMAGE, YOU CAN ONLY GO TO TEN.

WE ALSO THIS YEAR HAVE AUTOMOBILE HIRED AND NON-OWNED.

THAT'S IF EMPLOYEES RENT A VEHICLE.

THERE'S COVERAGE.

YOU CAN GO AS HIGH AS 100,000 ON THE ARIZONA MISSIONS.

IF YOU WANT THE GL, YOU CAN GO TO 50.

THE LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY WE CALL LEL, YOU CAN GO TO 100,000.

UM, AND THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN GO TO TEN.

IS THERE A SWEET SPOT, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE HAVE WE PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST AUTO LIABILITY CLAIMS, THE AUTO AND THE GL.

THE ONLY REASON I RECOMMEND WE GO MUCH HIGHER ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY IS BUT STAY WITH THE SAME IS BECAUSE YOU IF YOU HYPOTHETICALLY HAVE ONE VEHICLE ACCIDENT WITH MULTIPLE VEHICLES.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO EAT UP EVERYTHING.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WISE DECISION THERE.

WE HAVE VERY FEW PROPERTY CLAIMS. WE HAD ONE CLAIM AT THE REC CENTER FOR BLOWING WIND AND THAT DIDN'T FALL UNDER OUR PROPERTY.

IT FELL UNDER OUR WIND.

WE'VE JUST HAD VERY FEW THERE.

WE DO HAVE A LOT OF AUTO.

RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES SENSE TO GO TO THE.

RIGHT, MAX DEDUCTIBLE ON THE AUTO SIDE? YES. IF YOU WENT TO THE MAX DEDUCTIBLE PER YEAR, YOU'D BE PAYING ABOUT $308,000 IN DEDUCTIBLES ALONE.

YEAH. AND THE GL, YOU'D GO TO ABOUT 182 A YEAR.

SO I KIND OF TRIED TO STAY TO THE MIDDLE WITH SOME OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE HIGHER CLAIMS ON.

I MEAN, IF YOU WANTED, YOU COULD GO HIGHER ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, ONE ACCIDENT COULD REALLY.

YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GO AS HIGH AS 10,000.

I CAN'T SEE. CHIEF'S RESPONSE.

THE MONITORS ARE. I WILL SAY THAT I SEE EYES LOOKING AT ME LIKE MOST OF THE CLAIMS WE RECEIVE.

AND THIS IS VERY TYPICAL AT THE CITIES I'VE BEEN AT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY GOING TO ARREST SOMEONE.

THEY HAVE THEM EMPTY THEIR POCKETS MANY TIMES.

THERE'S A CELL PHONE.

THEY PUT IT ON THE HOOD OF THE CAR.

THEY FORGET IT'S THERE. THEY DRIVE OFF.

AND THE PERSON CLAIMS FOR LOSS OF A CELL PHONE.

THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT I SEE.

BUT YOU CAN HAVE OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW. COUNCIL THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN BOOTH WAS PUSHING.

I AGREE WITH INCREASING DEDUCTIBLES, BUT NOT TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE COUNTER PRODUCTIVE.

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ESPECIALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE.

THAT. IF YOU WENT IF YOU KEPT THE MILLION DOLLAR LIMIT AND WENT TO $1,000 DEDUCTIBLE, IT WOULD BE 45, 750 INSTEAD OF 42, 750.

SO IT'S A $3,000 DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS.

NOWADAYS. A BUMPER ON A CAR.

THIS IS ONE REASON WHY THAT WAS AT ZERO.

IT WAS ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE BEFORE.

YES, WE'VE BEEN THAT WAY FOR MANY YEARS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING.

THIS DISCUSSION.

GUIDANCE. YOU'RE IN A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT BUDGET WISE.

THE POLICE. WELL, MAYBE IT'S JUST A MINOR TWEAK.

YOU COULD SEE GOING UP A LITTLE, BUT.

YOU KNOW. IT'S PROBABLY ALSO ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF WORKING HERE.

THIS HAVING SOME BENEFITS.

WELL, THIS IS ON OUR OUR OUR POLICY ON OUR STUFF.

NOT THIS SHOULDN'T BE AFFECTING THE.

YEAH, THIS ISN'T AFFECT THE BENEFITS OF THE EMPLOYEE.

THIS IS ONLY OUR PROPERTY INSURANCE AUTO OUR LIABILITY IF SOMEONE MAKES A CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY.

YEAH. THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

HOW MANY PROPERTY CLAIMS HAVE WE PUT IN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE? WE'VE PUT IN THREE AND ONE HAS BEEN PAID.

AND BUT OF THOSE CLAIMS, HOW MANY WERE WINDSTORM? ONE. OKAY.

SO TWO THAT WERE ACTUALLY.

A PART OF THIS POLICY.

YES, BECAUSE WHEN STORMS SEPARATE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT THE SEWER ISSUE? NO, THE SEWER ISSUE WOULD COME UNDER LIABILITY.

WHAT? GENERAL LIABILITY? YES. OKAY.

BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE WE USED MOTOR DRIVEN EQUIPMENT WHEN WE CLEARED THAT LINE.

THEY ALSO OFFER ANOTHER POLICY I HAVEN'T PURCHASED, WHICH IS SEWAGE BACKUP.

SO IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN AND IT BACKED SEWAGE UP INTO A HOME WITHOUT MOTOR DRIVEN EQUIPMENT, THEY COULD MAKE A CLAIM.

YES, PROPERTY IS DEFINED AS OUR PROPERTY.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

WELL, HOW DID WE HANDLE THE ONE ON AUSTIN? IS THAT WHERE THE SEWER WENT? BACK INTO THEIR HOUSE? I DON'T KNOW WHERE AUSTIN IS.

I'M SORRY. DO YOU REMEMBER WHICH THAT ONE IS? THAT WAS THE ONE WHERE THEY HAD TO REDO THE BOTTOM OF THE HOUSE WHERE THE LADY WAS HAVING THE BABY? YES. OKAY.

THAT WAS HANDLED.

IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF BY TML.

THERE WAS A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THE THE CONTRACTOR THAT WAS BEING USED.

THAT WAS THE WHOLE HANG UP WITH THAT CLAIM, BUT IT WENT THROUGH.

TML IT DID GO THROUGH.

TML SEPARATE FROM THIS, IT WAS ON THIS.

IT WAS ON THIS. IT WAS ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE MOTOR DRIVEN REASON.

IT WAS YOU HAVE TO HAVE USING MOTOR DRIVEN EQUIPMENT, PUSHING SEWAGE TO HAVE IT GO INTO THE HOME, TO HAVE IT BE COVERED UNDER GL.

OTHERWISE IT HAS TO BE COVERED UNDER SEWAGE BACKUP, WHICH WE DON'T PURCHASE RIGHT NOW.

SO IF IT HAPPENS NOW, IT HAPPENS NOW WITHOUT THE EQUIPMENT, THEN WHAT IS THE RESIDENT THERE? THEY DON'T HAVE WE DON'T THEY CAN'T MAKE A CLAIM AGAINST US.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY COVERAGE. I MEAN, THEY COULD COME AFTER US, BUT IT DEPENDS WHERE THE LINE IS AND WHERE THE BACKUP IS.

AND. WOW.

I CAN ALWAYS GET A QUOTE FOR THAT.

I KNOW IT'S ANOTHER COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR SURE.

SO ALWAYS IT'S ACTUALLY IT HAPPENS A LOT MORE THAN YOU THINK.

I HAD IT HAPPEN A LOT AT THE OTHER CITIES.

I HAD IT HAPPEN TO MY OWN HOME.

IT'S NOT PRETTY. I DON'T THINK THAT MADE.

I DON'T THINK IT MADE IT ANY CLEARER FOR ME.

AND THE PROPERTY SIDE, I COULD SEE US INCREASING THAT.

OF LIABILITY PROBABLY NEEDS.

I THINK A SWEET SPOT WOULD BE BETWEEN 1000 AND 1500.

HONESTLY, DO THEY HAVE A POLICY FOR THAT? THEY ONLY OFFER 1000 OR 2500.

OKAY. A THOUSAND AND 2500 AND I GUESS A THOUSAND.

WHAT WOULD THAT BE? A THOUSAND FOR? THE AUTO LIABILITY AT $1 MILLION LIMIT IS 45,750.

AND FOR THE AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE IS 27 133.

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AND HOW MUCH MORE OF AN INCREASE IS THAT? IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LESS THAN WHAT I JUST GAVE YOU AS A SAVINGS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE SAVINGS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING DOWN FROM THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT, SO WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

OKAY. IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT.

WOULDN'T THE RATE INCREASE IF WE LOWERED THE DEDUCTIBLE? YES, THE RATE.

THE RATE INCREASES, BUT BY $3,000.

YEAH. OKAY.

AND THEN ON THE AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING UP IF YOU GO TO 1000.

COUNCIL. ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM? WOULD YOU LIKE OR JUST YOU WANT DIRECTION.

DIRECTION. OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY PARTICULAR AREA THAT THEY WANT TO SEE CHANGED? GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

WHAT? AND JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THE BIGGEST COST IS WORKER'S COMPENSATION.

THAT'S 146.5 95A YEAR.

MY MY OPINION IS THE AUTO LIABILITY GOES TO A THOUSAND DEDUCTIBLE JUST TO COVER US IN CASE THAT'S THE ONE WE USE THE MOST.

WE COULD END UP PAYING FOR THAT REAL QUICK AT 2500.

OKAY. UM, THE OTHER ONES.

I DON'T. I MEAN, I COULD SEE US KEEPING THOSE THE WAY YOU'VE PRESENTED THEM HERE, BUT.

YOU MEAN INCREASING THEM TO THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT OR MAINTAINING THEM? OKAY.

MAYBE THAT SAVINGS YOU CAN FIGURE OUT SEWER BACKUP INSURANCE.

IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN GET A QUOTE FOR THAT.

THAT'S SCARY. THAT IT HAPPENS MORE THAN YOU THINK IT DOES.

WHERE'S JEFF? THEY HIGH TAILED IT OUT.

HE DID? KYLE.

HAVE YOU HEARD OF. NOT REALLY YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT IT HAPPENS A LOT.

AND WHAT DO WE TELL THE RESIDENT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE TELL THE RESIDENTS? SORRY. YOU GOING TO GET TO WORK? THAT'S ABOUT IT. I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON WESTERN AVENUE.

ONCE I REMEMBER FOR SURE HAPPENING, IT HAPPENED TO A HOUSE OVER TOWARD THE HONOREES IN THAT AREA.

IT WAS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE.

AND THAT WAS DONE BY MOTOR EQUIPMENT.

BUT WE'VE HAD ONE RECENTLY THAT TURNED OUT IT WAS ON THE THE RESIDENTS SIDE.

SO THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT COVERED, BUT.

RIGHT. OKAY.

STAFF ANY FURTHER DIRECTION ON THIS? STAFFER COUNCIL.

YEAH. COUNCIL.

OKAY. EITHER OR, ACTUALLY.

BUELLER? BUELLER.

WE'RE GOOD. YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR JOHN'S.

OKAY. OKAY.

ABILITY FOR 1000.

YEAH. SO, DID YOU WANT ME TO GET A QUOTE ON THAT SEWAGE BACKUP? SURE. OKAY. I THINK SO.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 12, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230808-012 TO ADOPT A PROPOSED TAX RATE AND SET THE

[12. Discussion and possible action on Resolution No. 20230808-012 to adopt a proposed tax rate and set the date for the public hearings to allow public comment on the proposed 2023-24 budget and the proposed tax rate.]

DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED 2023 DASH 24 BUDGET AND PROPOSED TAX RATE.

AND THIS IS A ROLL CALL, RIGHT?

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SO THIS WILL BE A ROLL CALL VOTE? YES, WE HAVE TO HAVE A RECORD VOTE.

YEP. SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE HIGHER RATE.

OR SOME OTHER. AFTER LOWER RATE BUYER'S REMORSE.

BUYER'S REMORSE. I THINK I'M PICKING UP WHAT YOU'RE LAYING DOWN, CHRIS.

I'M PICKING UP WHAT YOU'RE LAYING DOWN.

LOWEST RATE POSSIBLE.

THAT WAS A BIG PLUS. JUST REMEMBER.

BEEP, BEEP.

JOHN. THEY WIN LATE ON A GRAND SLAM.