Aug 22, 2023 City Council

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ALL RIGHT. IT IS.

[OPEN SESSION]

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SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPOINTMENT OF JANIE SCHWARTZ SHAWL TO THE SENIOR COMMISSION AND BURCH TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OFF THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY. WE WILL MOVE TO.

LET'S DO FOUR AND FIVE.

YES, I'M GOING TO GO TO FOUR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230822-004.

[4. Discussion and possible action on Resolution No. 20230822-004 appointing a representative to the Brazosport Water Authority Board.]

SO MORRIS WANTS TO DO IT.

AND IF YOU COULD REAPPOINT HIM.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL.

I MAKE A MOTION TO WE REAPPOINT MORRIS MASSENGALE TO BE THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE TO THE BW A WATER AUTHORITY.

SECOND HAVE A MOTION A SECOND FOR REAPPOINTMENT OF MORRIS NASHVILLE TO THE CWA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK MORRIS DOES A GREAT JOB.

I HOPE HE HEARS ME SAY THAT.

I KNOW HE THINKS I SOMETIMES DON'T, BUT I THINK HE DOES A GREAT JOB.

ALL I WOULD SAY IS I AGREE ON.

IT'S A TOUGH POSITION TO BE IN.

YOU KNOW, JUST UPDATES AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THEM, EVEN IF IT'S AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN OCCASIONALLY UPDATE JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON WITH BWR.

PERFECT. ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE DISCUSSION.

POSSIBLE ACTION ON HIS EVALUATION OF IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF ENCHANTED OAKS AND COUNTY ROAD 44.

[5. Discussion and possible action on HDR's evaluation of improvements at the intersection of Enchanted Oaks and County Road 44]

WE'RE GIVING YOU. WE'RE PUTTING YOU AT THE FRONT OF THIS AGENDA.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL BY THE HOUR OR SO.

THAT'S TRUE. RIGHT. SO STAFF HAD REQUESTED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO TO KIND OF EASE SOME OF THE ISSUES AND IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT IN TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS IS THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE QUEUING.

WHEN EVERYBODY COMES OUT, IT'S JUST A SINGLE LANE COMING IN.

SO AS PEOPLE ARE WAITING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LEFT, IT'S BLOCKING THE ONES THAT COULD EASIER TO TAKE A RIGHT AND GET OUT.

SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS DOING DOING AN EXTENSION OF PAVING APPROXIMATELY SIX FOOT WIDE WILL GIVE US ANOTHER 12 FOOT.

WE'D HAVE TO 12 FOOT WIDE LANES AT THAT POINT.

THE EXISTING LANE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 18.

SO WE'LL ADD ANOTHER SIX TO GIVE US TO 24 RESTRIPE IT THAT WAY YOU'LL HAVE A LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN ONLY.

WE HAVE ALSO CONTACTED THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY SAID IF WE WANTED IT BECAUSE THE INTERSECTION IS IN A COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS PULL A RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT, WHICH ISN'T A BIG DEAL, AND THEY'LL ALLOW THAT TO COME THROUGH.

SO THAT'S THAT.

AND THEN WE RECENTLY OPENED A A GOOD BID NUMBER FOR THE MAINTENANCE PROJECT FOR THE PAVING MAINTENANCE PROJECT YESTERDAY.

AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE CONTRACTOR ON THAT.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, HE'S AGREED TO TO CHANGE, ORDER THAT INTO THE PROJECT.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO AT THE UNIT PRICES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED IN A COMPETITIVE BID ENVIRONMENT.

AND THAT ONE MORE TIME WE HAD A BID OPENING FOR A MAINTENANCE PROJECT, CITY WIDE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS AND REPAIRS THAT WERE APPROVED CITY WIDE.

OKAY, YOU'RE SAYING ADD THAT TO IT.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE PRICES CAME IN LOWER THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED, RIGHT.

AND YOU CAN CHANGE ORDER UP TO 25% IN WHICH WOULD WELL BE WITHIN THE AREA OF DOING THIS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT WERE PRESENTLY PREVIOUSLY DESIGNATED FOR CITY WIDE MAINTENANCE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TOTAL.

SO THERE'S THREE 300,000.

WE'RE ASKING TO NOW ESSENTIALLY INCLUDE THIS INTO THAT PACKAGE.

WE COULD CHANGE ORDER THAT IN.

YES, I'D BE INTERESTED IN THAT.

YEAH. AND THE UNIT PRICES WERE ESTABLISHED IN A BIDDING ENVIRONMENT.

WE HAD SIX BIDDERS.

SO THERE THE ECONOMY IS KIND OF I MEAN, THE BIDDING MARKET ECONOMY IS CHANGED OBVIOUSLY FROM WHAT IT WAS WHEN WE DID PACKAGE ONE.

SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

YOU'RE ADDING A TURN LANE.

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IT WOULD BE CONCRETE.

YOU'RE GOING TO MATCH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE? YES. THE ONLY ONLY THING WOULD BE IS THE EXISTING CONCRETE WOULD BE A DARKER COLOR.

IN THE NEW CONCRETE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LIGHTER COLOR.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DO ONE OF THE SEE IT ALL THE TIME WHERE THEY ADD THE NEW LANE, BUT THEY PUT ASPHALT NEXT TO THE.

BREAKS UP. YEAH.

NO, SIR. NO, SIR.

IT'LL BE. IT'LL ALL BE CONCRETE.

THAT'S GOOD NEWS. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE THE IMPROVEMENTS AS JOHN HAS PROVIDED, INCLUDING TO THE.

I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT WORD, THE PACKAGE THAT WE PREVIOUSLY PLACED TOGETHER.

BIDDING PACKAGE. YEAH, I'LL COORDINATE WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND JUST GET EVERYTHING ALL PUT TOGETHER AND I'LL BRING IT BACK FOR YOU ALL TO SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT.

RIGHT. YEAH. I WAS JUST GIVING YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE A PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

OKAY. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE A CHANGE ORDER IN FRONT OF IT.

RIGHT. BUT WE JUST WANTED TO GAIN YOUR CONCURRENCE THAT YOU WANTED TO DO THIS PROJECT.

THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

WOULD THERE BE ANY COST SAVINGS TO BREAKING UP THE MEDIAN AND INCLUDING THAT RATHER THAN JUST ADDING MORE OR.

WELL, THE THING IS, WHEN YOU BREAK THAT MEDIAN OUT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO POUR CONCRETE IN THERE A LITTLE BIT ANYWAYS.

AND THAT THAT'S SUCH A SMALL PORTION.

IT'S THE PRICE IS JUST GOING TO BE PRETTY HIGH.

SO YOU'RE NOT SAVING MUCH MONEY.

THE OTHER THING IS THE SAFETY FACTOR.

IT'S ALREADY HAD A MEDIAN THERE TO SEPARATE THE CARS COMING IN AND COMING OUT.

SO IF THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT THERE.

AND IT'S JUST A SMALL SIX FOOT POUR AROUND THE CURB TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT LONGER QUEUING RADIUS BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST THAT LITTLE FRONT MEDIAN. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDING SOME LENGTH FOR QUEUING.

WHAT'S THE LENGTH OF IT AGAIN? I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME RIGHT NOW, BUT I HAVE THE PLANS ALREADY.

ALREADY KIND OF LINED UP THE WAY WE WANT IT.

SKETCHES, AT LEAST.

WITH THAT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? THANK YOU, JOHN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

IF WE DO. 15, 16, 17.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 15, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230822-015.

[15. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230822-015 approving the 2023 Annual Service Plan Update for the public improvements in the Greystone Public Improvement District (PID), and approving the updates to the 2023 Assessment Roll, in accordance with chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code.]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND ANDREA BARNES WITH THE FIRM OF THREE WORKS IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT TWO AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

PHIL AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL CITY MANAGER.

TONIGHT WE HAVE THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED IS REQUIRED FOR US TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE EVERY YEAR ON THE PID FOR GREYSTONE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET IS THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE PID ACT, WHICH IS CHAPTER 372 OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

THIS PARTICULAR PID WAS ESTABLISHED IN JUNE OF 2020.

AND SO THIS IS OUR SECOND UPDATE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TO YOU.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

IT'S A PRETTY SHORT UPDATE, BUT WE DID HAVE ONE FULL PREPAYMENT OF THE ASSESSMENT THAT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU.

IT IS DOCUMENTED WITHIN THIS REPORT.

SO THAT MEANS ONE OF YOUR PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THIS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT PREPAID THEIR ENTIRE ASSESSMENT SO THAT THEY NO LONGER HAVE TO MAKE THAT ANNUAL PAYMENT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. SO THE.

ADMINISTRATION COSTS.

NOT NOT ALL OF THAT GOES TO THE ACTUAL ADMINISTRATION.

YES, THAT IS P THREE.

YES, SIR. THAT $9,792.

YES. SO HE GETS.

THING, RIGHT. SO THE AUDITOR, THE CITY AUDITOR FEES FOR WORK RELATED TO THE PID IS INCLUDED IN THE ADMINISTRATION COST OR THE ANNUAL COLLECTION COST, AS WELL AS THE FILING FEES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR FILING THIS PARTICULAR REPORT WITH THE COUNTY.

IT'S REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO HAVE THIS FILED WITHIN SEVEN DAYS.

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AND THEN WE HAVE THE MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORY.

AND THERE WERE NO DELINQUENCIES.

I'M SORRY. THERE WERE NO DELINQUENCIES? NO, SIR. QUESTIONS.

SO. WE DO NEED ACTION OR ANYTHING? YES. YES, IT DOES REQUIRE ACTION.

SO WITH THE ACTION, YOU WOULD BE APPROVING THE 2023 SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN FOR THE GREYSTONE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND AUTHORIZING THE ASSESSMENT FOR 2023 TAX YEAR AS INCLUDED IN THIS PARTICULAR REPORT.

I MAKE THE MOTION THAT MISS BARNES JUST STATED? MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

I'M NUMBER 16. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230822-016.

[16. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230822-016 approving the 2023 Annual Service Plan Update for the public improvements in the Kiber Reserve Public Improvement District (PID), and approving the updates to the 2023 Assessment Roll, in accordance with chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code]

I GOT ANOTHER ONE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS PARTICULAR PID WAS CREATED AS WELL IN 2020.

AND THIS IS THE SECOND ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN UPDATE THAT IS REQUIRED, AS I MENTIONED, ON THE LAST PID.

PER STATE LAW, IT DOES INCLUDE 93 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

AND WE HAVE ALSO HAD ALL OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS COMPLETED AND BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.

SO NOW IT IS JUST A MATTER OF COMPLETING THE REQUIRED UPDATES.

AND AUTHORIZING THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT THAT IS REQUIRED TO COVER THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THERE WERE NO PREPAYMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR PID.

PAST DUES? NO, SIR.

SO IN THE CASE WHERE THE BUILDER HAD THE LOT.

HE PAID THE BILL? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.

UNTIL THEY SELL IT TO AN END USER.

EITHER EITHER THE DEVELOPER OR THE BUILDER.

WHOEVER HAS WHOEVER HAS OWNERSHIP OF THE LOT PER THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS THE ONE WHO PAYS THE ASSESSMENT.

SO ONCE IT'S PLOTTED, THAT'S WHEN THEY START PAYING.

AS SOON AS YOU APPROVE THE ORIGINAL SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN THAT WAS CREATED AFTER THE DISTRICT WAS CREATED IN 2020, THEN THEY WOULD BEGIN PAYING THAT ASSESSMENT.

SO IF IT'S NOT PLATTED, WE CONSIDER THAT TO BE AN INITIAL PARCEL AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THAT INITIAL PART, THE ASSESSMENT ON THAT INITIAL PARCEL, AND THAT'S UNTIL IT'S PURCHASED.

AND THEN ONCE THEY PLAT IT, THEN THOSE LOTS ARE ASSESSED INDIVIDUALLY AND DEPENDING ON WHO OWNS THOSE INDIVIDUAL LOTS AS TO HOW AS TO WHO RECEIVES THE ASSESSMENT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE BUILDER.

YEAH I SEE. OKAY.

THE COUNCIL. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2023 ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN UPDATE AND UPDATES TO THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR 2023.

OR THE COVER RESERVE FOR KHYBER RESERVE? WELL, YES, FOR 16.

I THOUGHT WE WERE. SECOND MOTION.

A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE.

NO SERVICE PLAN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. LAST ONE.

17 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION.

[17. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230822-017 approving the 2023 Annual Service Plan Update for the public improvements in the Green Trails Public City Council - August 22, 2023 P a g e | 3 Improvement District (PID), and approving the updates to the 2023 Assessment Roll, in accordance with chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code.]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

AND THIS PARTICULAR PED WAS CREATED IN 2019 AND IT DOES HAVE AN OUTSTANDING ASSESSMENT OF $706,254.41.

THE ASSESSMENT ROLL THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE PARCELS WITHIN THE PID ARE INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT, AND THAT IS PART OF WHAT YOU WILL BE APPROVING TONIGHT, AUTHORIZING THOSE ASSESSMENTS TO BE INCLUDED ON THE ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX STATEMENTS THAT GO OUT BY BRAZORIA COUNTY.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

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CORRECT. AND I BELIEVE ALL EVERYTHING'S BEEN BUILT OUT.

CORRECT. ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.

ALL THE HOUSES ARE. MHM.

NOW THERE'S 50 LOTS.

I RECOMMEND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2023 ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN UPDATE AND UPDATES TO THE ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR 2023 AND THIS ONE FOR GREEN TRAILS. SECOND.

QUESTION A SECOND FOR APPROVAL.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, CHRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO GO BACK TO SIX? I WOULD LOVE THAT. ALL RIGHT.

I'M NUMBER SIX. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ONE A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ANGLETON PARK PLACE SUBDIVISION, SECTION TWO AND TWO APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPER'S.

[6. Discussion and possible action on: 1. A Preliminary Plat for Angleton Park Place Subdivision Section 2; and 2. Approval of the Development Agreement.]

THIS IS DISCUSSION ON THE ANGLETON PARK PLACE SUBDIVISION WITH WHICH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PRE MANUFACTURED HOME SUBDIVISION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LOCATED OFF OF GIFFORD ROAD NEAR THE PHILLIPS ROAD INTERSECTION.

THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, AS YOU NOTED, IS TWO PART.

ONE IS TO CONSIDER THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SECTION TWO.

AS YOU RECALL, WE HAVE APPROVED SECTION ONE.

WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS ON THE SAME AGENDA WHICH WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ACCORDING TO THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS.

LEGAL STAFF, AS WELL AS THE CITY ENGINEER, IS IN REVIEW OF BOTH.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO IS BY RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THIS PARTICULAR PLAT WHO VOTED 5 TO 0 OF APPROVAL. THERE WERE SOME TEXTUAL CHANGES THAT WERE REQUIRED OF THE CITY ENGINEER ON THE PLAT.

THOSE HAVE BEEN CLEARED.

SO SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SECTION TWO, IN WHICH THE DEVELOPER AND ENGINEER ARE HERE TONIGHT, WHICH ARE IN A HURRY TO OF COURSE, BEGIN DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ALSO UNDER REVIEW FOR FINAL APPROVAL AS WELL.

AN ITEM TWO, IT WOULD BE THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ACTION AS WELL.

SO DO WE HAVE THE LENGTH OF THE MANUFACTURED HOMES THEY'RE PUTTING IN? I'LL LET THE DEVELOPER SPEAK TO YOU AS THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE UNIT, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO BE PLACED INTO. THE HOMEOWNERS AGREEMENT WOULD BE, NUMBER ONE, THE STYLE OF HOME TO ENSURE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS MET A CERTAIN THRESHOLD IN TERMS OF THE SHINGLE ROOFS, PITCH ROOF REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, SKIRTING REQUIREMENTS.

SO ALL OF THAT IS IN WOULD BE IN THE DOCUMENT AS WELL AS EACH HOME WOULD HAVE THE DRIVEWAY REQUIREMENTS.

SO, MIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW RIGHT OFF THAT MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE PER UNIT.

YES. MY NAME IS MIGUEL SALCEDO WITH BAKER AND LAWSON.

THERE'S TWO STYLE OF LOTS ON THE TRACK.

THE ONE THAT ACCOMMODATES THE SINGLE WIDE TRAILERS.

THOSE ARE 40 BY, I THINK, ABOUT 110.

111. NO.

ALL I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LOT SIZE.

SORRY. YEAH.

THE TRAILER WILL BE 16 BY 65 OR 76.

THE OTHER LOTS THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE THE DOUBLE WIDES ARE 48 FOOT.

48 FOOT WIDE LOTS BY 100 FOOT DEPTHS.

AND THE DOUBLE WIDES, I BELIEVE, ARE 65 FOOT DEEP AND 26 FOOT WIDE FOR THE ACTUAL TRAILER ITSELF.

WELL. SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ON YOUR DRIVEWAY, IS IT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN YOUR IN YOUR SPECS, YOU CALL FOR DRIVEWAY FOR FOR CARS.

SO THAT'S ROUGHLY 35FT.

YOU'RE PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN AND YOU CAN'T BLOCK THOSE SIDEWALKS.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE LENGTH OF THE MANUFACTURED HOMES.

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BUT YOU GOT A TEN FOOT IN THE BACK THAT YOU ALSO HAVE TO OBSERVE.

SO I JUST I JUST MAKING SURE WE DON'T BLOCK THE THE SIDEWALKS.

CORRECT. WE HAVE ROOM FOR THE DRIVEWAYS TO BE OVER 40 FOOT LONG TO ACCOMMODATE CARS AND NOT ENCROACH ON THE SIDEWALK.

ALL RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING TO POOR? YOU SAY YOU HAVE ROOM FOR IT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT.

IT'S REQUIRED TO PARK THE FOUR VEHICLES ACCORDING TO THE CODE.

THE SIDEWALK. RIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE THE PLANS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT FROM WHAT I REMEMBER IS WE WERE PROPOSING.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THE WRONG INFORMATION.

I NEED TO SEE THE PLANS.

BUT THERE IS ROOM TO STACK TWO CARS SIDE FOR CARS WITH TWO CARS SIDE BY SIDE ON EACH DRIVE.

AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER FOR LIKE THE DOUBLE WIDE LOTS.

YOU COULD DO A 36 FOOT WIDE DRIVE FOR CARS NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

OKAY, SO. WELL.

COUNCILMAN. BOOTH ISN'T HERE.

AND YOU? COMMITTED A CARDINAL SIN TO HIM.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SPEAK FOR HIM.

I'M SURE HE WOULD LOVE TO POINT THIS OUT.

BALTIC AVENUE, SHORT LINE DRIVE AND AVENUE.

WE DON'T NEED THREE DIFFERENT STREET NAMES ON JUST ONE ROAD.

THAT CAUSES. CALL IT A LOOP OR A CIRCLE.

YEAH, I'LL GO AHEAD.

SAY, YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

OKAY. YEAH.

WE'VE DONE IN OTHER LOOPS WHERE IT'S BEEN NORTH AND SOUTH.

ONE NAME. OKAY.

THAT IS AN EASY FIX.

OR EAST AND WEST OR WHATEVER THE HOWEVER THE ROAD RUNS.

BUT I GUESS REFRESH MY MEMORY.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU'VE COME BEFORE US, BUT.

YOU KNOW, I'VE ALREADY BEEN TO PNC FOR THE ACTIONS THERE.

THE CONCERN I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE IS MAKING SURE THAT IT'S MAINTAINED AND KEPT UP WITH.

UH, WHAT ASSURANCES DO YOU HAVE THERE? LET'S MAKING SURE THAT SKIRTING STAYS PICKED UP.

SO WE WE HAVE A WE HAVE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE WORKED OUT WITH YOU GUYS AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF IT.

AND YES, WE'RE THAT'S OUR OBJECTIVES TO HAVE A FIRST CLASS FACILITY.

AND I THINK IF YOU READ THAT IT'LL IT'LL ADDRESS THAT.

SHARE THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING.

DURING. QUESTIONS ASKED.

I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST.

YES, SIR. ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

ONE SECOND. AND I WILL SAY I DID MENTION, BUT THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS SUBJECT TO LEGAL FINAL APPROVAL.

NOTHING IN AGREEMENT.

DOWN THE CORPORATE ENTITY THAT.

LAST VERSION.

THAT PARTNER IS NOT.

LLC. SO.

PALMER. WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE? WE'RE ACTUALLY READY TO START.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL 82 LOTS AT ONE TIME.

AND WE'RE STILL DOING.

PARK PLAYS BOTH SIDES STRAIGHT TO THE FIRST ENTRANCE.

SO WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES ON PHILLIPS ROAD ON THE NEW PLAT.

ONE OF THE ENTRANCES IS GOING TO BE A BOULEVARD ENTRANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION.

THE OTHER ONE SINCE.

IT'S TOO CLOSE.

WHAT'S NOT? THE OTHER ONE IS ONLY GOING TO BE A FIRE ACCESS ENTRANCE WITH THE GATE SINCE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE PROPOSED.

INTERSECTION WHERE GIFFORD ROAD WOULD BE.

WHEN YOU HAVE TO SAY THIS AND THEN COUNSEL, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS SUBJECT TO GUILFORD ROAD BEING EXTENDED. AND ONCE GUILFORD ROAD IS EXTENDED IN THE FUTURE, THEY WOULD TIE INTO THAT WITH AT LEAST AN ADDITIONAL ACCESS

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SO THAT WOULD BE THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT HE'S GOING TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR.

USUALLY THOSE ARE DEVELOPER REQUIREMENTS.

SO HIS REQUIREMENT TO DATE WOULD BE TO ENSURE THAT RIGHT OF WAY IS DEDICATED APPROPRIATELY FOR THAT FOR THAT TO OCCUR IN THE FUTURE AT THIS POINT. CONCRETE.

CORRECT. IF YOU RECALL, ONE OF THE ENTRANCES WAS ACTUALLY OFF OF GUILFORD.

AND WE RAN INTO A MAINTENANCE ISSUE BECAUSE A PORTION OF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COUNTY.

THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY AS TO WHERE IT FALLS, BECAUSE THE CITY LIMIT LINE IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW. RIGHT. GO IN THERE RIGHT AWAY.

COUNTY OWNS THE WHOLE STREET.

SO AFTER ALL THE STUDY WE DID, WE FOUND OUT THAT THE COUNTY OWNS THE WHOLE STREET.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY WE ENDED UP WITH THE IDEA OF MAKING THE ACCESS POINTS OFF OF PHILLIPS ROAD, WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT TO COMMENCE. CAN'T SAY I'M DISAPPOINTED. I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT AT ONE TIME, THAT BEING AN ISSUE OF PUTTING ALL THE TRAFFIC ON PHILIPS, WHICH IS GOT DEEP DITCHES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS.

JUST I WAS GOING TO HELP PUSH GIFFORDS DOWN.

YES, SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT SEEMS TO BE CHANGED.

THAT DISCUSSION WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN SECTION ONE WHEN WE DID SECTION ONE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL.

I THINK WE ALERTED YOU TO THEM MEETING THE THE ACCESS POINT REQUIREMENTS, THE TWO THE TWO LOCATIONS ON PHILLIPS.

THAT'S WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

SORRY.

SO SPECIFICALLY, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR, OTIS ON? YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT CONSIDERATION FOR SECTION TWO BECAUSE WE'RE COMPLETED WITH SECTION ONE.

WE ACTUALLY HAD THE FINAL PLAT APPROVAL ON SECTION ONE.

OKAY, THIS IS SECTION TWO.

AND ALSO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND ALSO PART TWO WOULD BE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

YES, SIR.

I TOLD HIM SECTION ONE.

THIS IS MY MISTAKE FOR NOT CATCHING IT.

BUT I THOUGHT IN SECTION ONE WE WERE GOING OFF PHILLIPS ROAD BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FIRST SECTION WE.

BUT MY MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT SECTION TWO.

THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THIS.

RIGHT. SECTION ONE WAS TO THE EAST.

CLOSEST TO GIFFORD? YES, SIR.

JUST LETTING THE COUNCIL KNOW. FIVE ZERO.

RIGHT. BUT DO WE NEED TO SEPARATE MOTIONS? CAN YOU MAKE ONE MOTION? AND.

AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

SECTION TWO.

RIGHT. AND ALSO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS LONG AS IT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. LIKE.

I'LL SECOND IT. OR FOR A DISCUSSION.

AFTER THE VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. HAVE A NICE DAY.

YOU TOO. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT OF ASHLAND.

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YOU'VE SEEN SECTION ONE ACTUALLY ON THE ASHLAND PROJECT BEFORE.

IF YOU DON'T MIND BACKING UP COLTON.

I'M SORRY, JONATHAN, BACK UP TO THE PLAT FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

[7. Discussion and possible action on the revised preliminary plat of Ashland Section 1.]

SO THE ACTUAL ACREAGE DID DECREASE.

YOU END UP WITH 58, 60 FOOT LOTS ON THIS PARTICULAR SECTION THAT WOULD BE CLOSEST TO FM 521 THIS PARTICULAR PLAT, WE DID RECEIVE A 30 DAY WAIVER.

THAT WAS A SLIGHT DELAY AFTER BEING CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I'M SORRY, NOT THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

THIS WAS CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON AUGUST THE 3RD IN WHICH THERE WAS A 5 TO 0 RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR SECTION. THERE WERE SOME TEXTUAL CHANGES REQUIRED OF THE CITY ENGINEER IN WHICH THOSE ARE LISTED IN THE REPORT WITH THE RESPONSES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TOWARD THOSE PARTICULAR TEXTUAL CHANGES.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE CITY ENGINEER HAS HAD SOME OTHER MINOR CHANGES TO THE PLAT THAT NEEDED TO BE CLEARED.

SO AS STATED IN THE RECOMMENDATION, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THIS PARTICULAR PRELIMINARY BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO FINAL ENGINEERING APPROVAL BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME AGENCIES BEYOND OUR AUTHORITY SUCH AS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CONTROL, ALSO DOT ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, WHICH WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THAT AND ALSO THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT, THAT FINAL APPROVAL AS WELL AS BRAZORIA COUNTY ON THE DRAINAGE.

SO ALL OF THOSE ISSUES WOULD BE, I THINK, IRONED OUT BEYOND US.

I WILL SAY THAT THE COUNTY HAS EXECUTED AN AGREEMENT FOR THE ROAD MAINTENANCE TO DATE FOR THE PROJECTS IN ASHLAND.

SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY.

THIS PARTICULAR PLAT WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE IN THE LOT MIX REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE 60 FOOT LOTS.

YOU'RE BEING RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT.

YOU SAY THE DRAINAGE HAS BEEN APPROVED.

THEY'RE STILL WORKING WITH AD FOR THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU KNOW, ON THOSE OUTFLOWS.

BUT THAT'S BEYOND OUR AUTHORITY.

HOWEVER, YOU COULD CONDITION IT UPON FINAL APPROVAL OF BRAZORIA COUNTY ON THE DRAINAGE, AS WELL AS ANY CONCERNS OF ADHD BEING ADDRESSED AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY.

COUNCIL.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SECTION ONE OF ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT BASED ON.

THE APPROVAL WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY AND THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

AFTER THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. AYE.

FOR ONE. YES, I CAN CORRECT IT.

OKAY. NUMBER EIGHT DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ASHLAND SECTION TWO.

[8. Discussion and possible action on the revised preliminary plat for Ashland Section 2]

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THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS ITEM.

ALSO ON AUGUST 3RD, WE CONSIDERED THE COMMENTS OF THE CITY ENGINEER, WHICH WERE TEXTUAL IN NATURE AND HAD THOSE CLEARED.

YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE RESPONSE FROM THE DEVELOPER ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AS WELL.

SECTION TWO, AS NOTED, WOULD BE 60 TO 50 BY 120 FOOT LOTS.

AS NOTED, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS APPROVED.

THIS WOULD FALL INTO THE 10% THRESHOLD OF THE LOT MIX REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SO THEY WOULD MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THERE.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OF COURSE, ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE HAD ONE NO VOTE ON THE PARTICULAR PRELIMINARY PLAT.

SO YOU ARE RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT, SUBJECT TO, AS I STATED ON THE OTHER ONES, THERE ARE SOME OTHER REFERRAL AGENCIES BEYOND US, SUCH AS TCU, BRAZORIA COUNTY AND THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT, SO WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THEIR FINAL APPROVAL.

REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT NONTRADITIONAL HOMES ARE.

SO THAT'S NOT A PART OF THIS PHASE, OF COURSE, BUT THAT WOULD BE MORE OF YOUR TOWNHOUSE STYLE, MORE ATTACHED TYPE UNITS.

I THINK DURING THE PRELIMINARY CONCEPT WHERE WE WERE DOING THE CONSIDERATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY PRESENTED SOME SLIDES TO YOU OF THE CHARACTER OF THOSE NON TRADITIONAL STYLE HOUSES WHICH HAD DIFFERENT TYPE OF CURB APPEAL.

SO IT WAS MOSTLY TOWNHOUSE STYLE WITH THE PORCH IN THE FRONT TYPE.

IF YOU RECALL THOSE PARTICULAR SLIDES.

BUT THAT'S NOT A PART OF SECTION ONE AND TWO.

YOU SAY THAT, BUT IT'S ALSO IN THE SUPPORT FOR SECTION TWO HERE.

AND THEN IT ALSO SAYS.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, ARE WE SAYING THAT? THE LOT SIZE MIX FOR EACH SECTION WILL NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH.

ON THE MIX.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS FOR EVERY SECTION THAT GETS DEVELOPED.

SHOULDN'T THEY BE ABIDING BY THE 10% RULE THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR SUPPORT DOCUMENTS? OR ARE WE SAYING THAT, NO, IN THIS SECTION THEY CAN HAVE 100%.

THIS ONE CAN BE THAT AGREEMENT WAS NOT PER SECTION.

THAT'S THE OVERALL YOUR TOTAL OVERALL NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS.

THE DA WOULD HAVE STIPULATED.

PLANNING AND ENGINEERING REVIEW CHOSE THE MIX FOR EACH LOT, SIZE AND THE SUPPORT.

I'M SO ISN'T THAT MIXED? THE MIXED ABOUT THE GREEN? YES. THE 10% MIX.

YES. YES.

JUST COPY THAT VERBATIM.

WE COPIED IT VERBATIM.

WE'RE JUST ILLUSTRATING THAT THIS PARTICULAR PLOT IS IN COMPLIANCE.

SO WHAT IS THE MIX IN THIS? IN THIS SECTION? IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF.

62. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CAITLIN.

50,550 BY 120.

THAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL MIX IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION.

YES, SIR. SO FAR, I'M 62 AND 58 OUT OF 120.

SECTION ONE. SECTION TWO.

60 TWO. WITH JUST A LITTLE MORE THAN 50% OR 50 AND JUST A LITTLE LESS THAN 50% IS 60 FOOT.

WHICH I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO GET THE SUPPORT DOCUMENTS RIGHT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THERE AND SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

OR IF IT DOESN'T BELONG. IT DOESN'T BELONG.

I MEAN, I READ IT AS THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, NOT PER SECTION.

THAT'S HOW I READ IT. YEAH.

THE TABLE THAT'S IN THERE, THE PREFERENCE TO IT IS THAT.

THAT'S THE BUILD OUT OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THOSE ARE YOUR PERCENTAGES.

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I REMEMBER MR. RAVES BROUGHT IT IN DIFFERENT INCREMENTS.

WHEN? ALL.

GENTLEMEN. YEAH MEAN BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.

BUT IN THIS ONE AT LEAST, I MEAN, THERE'S ALL UNIFORM.

THEY'RE ALL UNIFORM.

I THINK IN THE FOLLOWING SESSION WE PROBABLY WILL.

RIGHT? I MEAN, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST TWO SECTIONS, SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET LOST.

SO I THINK I HEAR YOU.

YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE? AFRAID OF AS YOU GET TO THE LAST SECTION? OH, I AGREE.

I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY. WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU WHAT STAFF IS UTILIZING.

BUT YEAH, AS WE TRACK IT, WE'LL PROVIDE THAT RUNNING TOTAL TO YOU.

JUST REMEMBER, THESE ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS AND THE PUBLIC LOGS IN AND LOOKS AT THIS STUFF ONLINE AND WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW IT AS WELL.

OH, YES, SIR. NO, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD LIKE TO BE IN A POSITION TO KEEP HER, LIKE YOU SAID, RUNNING, RUNNING PROJECTION TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE FALL WITHIN THESE PERCENTAGES AND.

I MEAN, THESE PERCENTAGES ARE PRETTY BROAD.

IT SHOULDN'T BE HARD TO GET 10%, 10%, 10%.

TO HAVE ACTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SECTION TWO ASHLAND.

BASED ON TCU, BRAZORIA COUNTY.

RIGHT. BASED ON AD AND OTHER ENTITIES INVOLVED.

YES. I WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED FIRST.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS TO HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOR.

THE DISCUSSION FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. FREE TO.

ITEM NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

THANK YOU. THIS IS THE ACTUAL ACTUALLY THE FINAL PLAT.

THERE ARE A FEW FINAL PLATS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT FEW ITEMS. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS SUBMITTED FOR A EXTENSION ON THE 30 DAY APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS DUE TO SOME COORDINATION ON THE ENGINEER SIDE, THEY REQUESTED MORE INFORMATION, SO THAT'S BASICALLY GOT DELAYED TO THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA.

ON THE FINAL PLAT, AS YOU SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT, THIS WAS CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JULY 6TH IN WHICH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ZERO FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION.

THERE ARE SOME TEXTUAL COMMENTS THAT WERE NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT IN WHICH THE CITY ENGINEER IS WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO CLEAR, BUT WE WANTED TO POINT OUT THE SAME INSTANCE OF THE REFERRAL AGENCIES MENTIONED TCU, BRAZORIA COUNTY AND THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT, AS YOU RECALL, AND DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION AD RAISED THE CONCERN THAT THEY'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE CONTINUITY OF THE LEVEES ARE MAINTAINED.

AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR PLAT AND THE OTHER PLAT COORDINATIONS.

SO WE'RE MAKING IT SUBJECT TO THEIR FINAL APPROVAL AS WELL FOR THIS PARTICULAR FINAL PLAT.

AND THIS IS FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

AND THIS IS BASICALLY TO THE FAR SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE.

SOUTH FOR SOUTH AND IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY.

WHERE'S THE FLOW? I'M SORRY.

THE OUTFLOWS ON THIS PARTICULAR PORTION WOULD WOULD BE IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS SITE.

I DON'T HAVE THE DRAINAGE PLANS, UNFORTUNATELY, ON THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

IF YOU WOULD ROLL THIS SLIDE UP, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE COULD ZOOM INTO THE VICINITY MAP.

AND ROLL DOWN. JUST IF YOU WOULD, ZOOM OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OR MOVE THE SLIDE TO THE RIGHT AND UPPER PORTION TO THE FAR TO THE OTHER.

[00:50:07]

OKAY. SO IF YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, AND ROLL DOWN, LET ME MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT PLAN THAT.

ROLL DOWN, PLEASE.

YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S STREET DEDICATION THREE.

IF YOU DON'T MIND.

LOOKING FOR THE CORRECT ITEM.

THAT'S ITEM NUMBER NINE.

[9. Discussion and possible action on the Final Plat for Ashland Development Wastewater Treatment Plant. ]

AND YEAH, THAT WOULD BE WHERE IT IS.

SO THE BLACK DOT TOWARD THE BOTTOM OF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE WHERE THIS IS LOCATED.

YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT WHETHER.

EIGHME RECALLED. HE IS ONE OF THE RIGHT.

BECAUSE IT GOES TOWARDS THE PROTECTION LEVEE.

I THINK THAT WAS THE CONCERN OF ADD, IF YOU CAN RECALL.

SO AS PART OF THAT, WE'RE HOPING THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD BE PERFORMED BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND WITH I'M SORRY, WITH ADD TO COVER THEIR CONCERNS.

AND THE ENGINEERS ARE HERE WITH THE TEAM TO A CERTAIN THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN AND IT'S IN THE PROCESS.

I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD BE APPROVING SOMETHING.

SO QUESTION MARKS ON.

WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF GIVING THE APPROVAL? DISTRICT HAS NO. THAT'S WHY WE WOULD MAKE IT SUBJECT TO THEIR FINAL APPROVAL IF THEY DO NOT GAIN FINAL APPROVAL OF THOSE REFERRAL AGENCIES REFERRED IN THE ENGINEERING REPORT, THEN IT COULD NOT OCCUR.

THEY WOULD NOT HAVE APPROVAL TO ACTUALLY DO THE CONSTRUCTION.

RAIN IS DISSIPATING ON US TO APPROVE BEFORE THEY GO AND APPROVE? NO, SIR. IT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE STILL IN CONVERSATION.

I THINK THEY'RE WORKING COOPERATIVELY.

AS MENTIONED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL, THEY APPEARED WITH THEIR CONCERNS, WHICH ARE LEGITIMATE, BUT HOWEVER, THAT HAS TO BE COORDINATED. STEVE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD MONTHS AGO AND SAID WE WERE TIRED OF APPROVING BEFORE THE OTHER ONES WERE APPROVED AND THAT WE WANTED TO SEE THIS ACTION CHANGED. DOING THE EXACT SAME THING AGAIN.

SO A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL WOULD MEAN THAT CONDITION HAS TO BE MET BEFORE.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IF IT FAILS? IT'S A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL.

IF. YEAH.

YOU MEAN IF THE COUNCIL FAILS TO APPROVE? IF THEY DON'T MEET THE APPROVAL OF WHATEVER ENTITY THAT'S REVIEWING IT, THEN THE FINAL PLAT GOES UNAPPROVED BECAUSE IT'S A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. DOES IT PASS BY EXPIRATION OF TIME? I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

OKAY. SO BECAUSE YOU SAID EARLIER THERE WAS THERE A DISCUSSION ABOUT A 30 DAY.

SO THAT'S A SEPARATE THING.

IT'S 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAT REVIEW BY THE MUNICIPALITY.

BUT YOUR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL MEANS THAT IT IS NOT APPROVED UNLESS THE.

AND THE REASON WHY YOU PUT YOURSELF IN.

WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SHOT CLOCK LAW THAT SAYS YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO.

SO. SO BUT A DECISION THAT'S CONDITIONAL, THAT'S STILL A DECISION.

IS IT CONSIDERED A DECISION, EVEN IF THAT ALL IT DOES IS CONTINUE TO RUN THE CLOCK, IT RUNS THE CLOCK UNTIL THEY SATISFIED THE CONDITION? I MEAN, IN THEORY, WE COULD JUST BE IN OVERTIME FOR A LONG TIME.

BUT BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS MAY NOT BE MET.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE CALLING THEM REFERRAL AGENCIES, BECAUSE THEY'RE BEYOND OUR AUTHORITY.

THEY HAVE THE SAME SHOT CLOCK THAT WE DO.

SITE PLAN. YES.

YEAH. SO THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS DECIDED THAT DEVELOPERS WERE NOT GETTING A FAIR SHAKE AND THAT PLANS WERE SITTING IN THE OFFICES OF THE AUTHORITIES THAT HAVE TO APPROVE.

SO WHEN THEY PASS THE SHOT CLOCK IN 2019, IT WAS TO AVOID THAT.

SO THEY IMPOSED THIS 30 DAYS WHEREBY THE CITY AS THE ENTITY, THE APPROVAL ENTITY, HAS TO DO.

[00:55:11]

MUNICIPAL, RIGHT.

SO THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT ANY BODY THAT HAS TO SUBMIT SOMETHING TO.

SO. AND HOW DO WE KNOW ALL THOSE ATTENDEES ENTITIES APPROVED IT? WHEN ARE WE NOTIFIED? THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THE FOURTH IS COORDINATED BY OUR CITY ENGINEER.

OUR CITY ENGINEER WILL NOT SIGN OFF FINALLY ON THE PROJECT UNTIL ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE MET.

AND MR. STEVE IS HERE FROM QUIDDITY AND THE MESSAGE COULD BE TO THEM TO WORK WITH AD TO MAKE SURE THAT IF A 30 DAY WAIVER LETTER IS NECESSARY, I THINK IT'S THE APPLICANT'S DISCRETION TO ALLOW THAT ENTITY MORE TIME TO REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT THEY FIT WITHIN THE REQUIREMENT OF THE 30 DAY.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY GAVE US A 30 DAY WAIVER, AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE STATE LAW. SO, STEVE, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THE OTHER ENTITIES.

SO THE ENGINEERS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AID TO FINALIZE THIS.

THIS IS THIS IS NOT THE PLANT ITSELF.

AND EVEN THE DISCHARGE MAY CHANGE SLIGHTLY.

THIS IS SIMPLY TO CREATE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THIS WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD UNTIL AID HAS SIGNED OFF ON IT.

THE ENGINEERS ARE WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEVEE.

THAT IS THE MAJOR THING THAT THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH AID.

AND SO IF WE NEED TO GET A WAIVER FOR AID, IF WE CAN'T GET THAT RESOLVED WITHIN 30 DAYS, WE WILL DO SO. BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CARTOON HORSE TYPE THINGS.

WE'VE GOT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN.

WE CAN WE CAN TAKE THE NEXT STEP WITH AID AND FINALIZE IT.

BUT WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF YOUR CONCERNS.

AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SITTING UP FRONT MORE THAN ONCE OR TWICE AND LISTENING VERY CAREFULLY AND RELAYING THAT INFORMATION.

WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE CONCERN WITH THAT LEVEE, THAT LEVEES THAT LEVEE IS IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT TO ANGLETON.

THAT IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE.

WELL, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT TOO.

NOBODY WANTS IT TO FAIL, SO WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT'S TAKEN CARE OF.

I MEAN, YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE WHY IT'D BE A GREAT CONCERN TO PEOPLE IN CITY COUNCIL.

OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO.

AS WE KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GREAT CONCERN TO THE PEOPLE OF ANGLETON.

SO. ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO, AS OTIS HAS SAID, IF THIS IS DONE CONDITIONALLY, NOTHING REALLY HAPPENS.

IT JUST ALLOWS US TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND THEN FINALIZE THINGS WITH AD, AND I WILL BE BACK HERE TO INFORM YOU OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

AND HOW IT'S BEING ADDRESSED.

IN THE OTHER LAYER OF OVERSIGHT IS ONE STAFF ENGINEER HAVE CERTIFIED THAT ALL OF THESE ENTITIES AND REFERRAL AGENCIES HAVE PERFORMED THEIR APPROVALS. THE SIGNATURES GO ON THE PLAT AND THEN YOU, MAYOR, WOULD BE ONE OF THE SIGNATURES OF THAT FINAL PLAT BEFORE IT IS RECORDED AS WELL AS CITY SECRETARY. SO THAT'S HOW WE WOULD COORDINATE IN THE END THAT EVERYONE HAS SIGNED OFF ON THIS PARTICULAR PLAT AND ALL OF THE OTHER FINAL PLATS BEFORE RECORDATION.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

LOCATION THAT'S BEEN PUT FORTH AS A PROPOSAL.

NOT FOR IT, BUT I'M ASKING THE QUESTION FOR FUTURE.

THE IF IT WAS TO BE PUT IN THIS POSITION AND YOU HAD GROWTH IN THE FUTURE DOWN TO 88.

IT'S ACCESSIBLE. RESISTANCE IS JUST GOING TO JUST FUND WASTEWATER TREATMENT OF THAT SUBDIVISION RIGHT THERE.

OR IS IT BEING BUILT FOR.

OF OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS.

[01:00:03]

THIS IS CURRENTLY FOR A MUD THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED OUT THERE.

SO IT'S JUST FOR THE IDENTIFIED MUD AREA.

IT'S NOT FOR A PUBLIC SECTOR.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IF THE CITY WHEN IT COMES IN, IF THERE'S EXTRA ROOM, YOU CAN PUT ANOTHER TRAIN OR SOMETHING ON IT AT THAT TIME.

BUT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST FOR THAT 900 ACRES.

IS IT? I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S GOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LAND OUT THERE.

AND WE HAVE THIS IS JUST FOR THE THE PLOTTING OF THE LAND.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN ALL THE PLANS YET.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO LOCATE IT OR HOW IT GOES OR THE SIZE OF IT YET.

BUT THIS IS JUST FOR THE PROPERTY OF IT RIGHT NOW.

I'VE.

QUESTIONS.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BASED ON THE APPROVAL OF TKC BRAZORIA COUNTY AND ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

CONDITIONED. CONDITIONED, YOU SAID BASED.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.

THAT'S ALL CONDITIONED ON THE APPROVAL OF TKC BRAZORIA COUNTY AND THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

I HAVE A MOTION. TO HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILOR.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

HAI, HAI, HAI, HAI. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? HAI. VARIOUS THREE.

I'M NUMBER TEN. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT WATER PLANT.

[10. Discussion and possible action on a Final Plat for Ashland Development Water Plant. ]

ITEM NUMBER TEN FOR 2.095 ACRES.

CONSIDERING ONE RESERVE, ONE BLOCK SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

IF WE WOULD JUST ROLL UP, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS ITEM ON JULY THE 6TH, AS WELL AS SUBJECT TO THAT 30 DAY WAIVER LETTER THAT WE DID RECEIVE FROM THE DEVELOPER WAIVING THEIR 30 DAY REVIEW PERIOD.

YOU'RE ASKED TO, OF COURSE, APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR PLAT.

THERE WERE NINE TEXTUAL CHANGES THAT WERE REQUIRED OF THE CITY ENGINEER IN WHICH THEY HAVE GIVEN US A RESPONSE ON MOST OF THOSE.

THIS PARTICULAR PLAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO FINAL ENGINEERING, CLEARING ALL COMMENTS, ALL OF THEIR COMMENTS BEING SATISFIED BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE REFERRAL AGENCIES THAT WE MENTIONED, TCU, BRAZORIA COUNTY AND THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLAT. IT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE UPPER PORTION OF ASHLAND IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY, IF YOU WOULD ROLL TOWARD THE PLAT.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF RIGHT THERE WHERE IT'S LOCATED IN THE UPPER CENTRAL PORTION.

TWO POINT OR SO ACRES.

2.095.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT CONDITIONED ON.

ON THE REFERRAL AGENCIES, THE THREE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT THEY APPROVE? YES.

A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT WATER PLANT.

CONDITIONAL APPROVAL BASED ON AGREEMENTS FROM TCU, BRAZORIA COUNTY AND THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

PUSHING BY. AND SECOND.

SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION.

[01:05:05]

AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. AND NUMBER 11 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT OF THE ASHLAND STREET DEDICATION,

[11. Discussion and possible action on the Final Plat of the Ashland Street Dedication Sec 1 and Reserves]

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM, OF COURSE, WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO ON JULY THE 6TH, SUBJECT TO THAT 30 DAY WAIVER LETTER.

AS MENTIONED EARLIER, APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF ASHLAND STREET DEDICATION, SECTION ONE, IN WHICH THE RESERVES WOULD GET US OVER FROM 521 TO SERVICE.

I THINK THE MODEL HOME COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE RECREATIONAL CENTER, IT WOULD INCLUDE STREET RIGHT OF WAYS IF YOU WOULD MOVE TOWARD THE PLAT OF ASHLAND BOULEVARD, WHICH WOULD GET YOU OFF OF 521, CONNECTING TO SAPPHIRE SPRINGS TRAIL.

AS YOU HAVE SEEN ON THE EARLIER PLATS, YOU'RE BEING RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR PLAT, SUBJECT TO ALL FINAL ENGINEERING SIGN OFF OF THE COMMENTS IN WHICH WE'VE RECEIVED THIS RESPONSES AS ATTACHED.

AND THEN THIS IS SUBJECT OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT FEEDS OFF OF 521 TO TEXT APPROVAL OF THAT OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.

ASHLAND BOULEVARD IS A 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, AS YOU'VE SEEN THE BOULEVARD DETAILS IN THE EARLIER CONCEPT PLANS.

SAPPHIRE KIND OF VARIES.

ANYWHERE FROM 60 TO LOOKS LIKE ABOUT YOUR 70 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? AND THIS. AND IS THIS THE SECTION THAT WILL LEAD INTO WHERE ANGLETON ISD WILL BE BUILDING THERE? THAT WOULD BE SAPPHIRE SPRINGS.

YEAH, THAT PRETTY MUCH GOES PRETTY.

I TALKED TO I THINK THIS I WAS LISTENING A LITTLE BIT TO THE.

PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT.

I THINK REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IF I'M SPEAKING INCORRECTLY, CORRECT ME, PLEASE.

I GUESS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS BEEN INVOLVED AND YES, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE SO SAFELY IN A WAY THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE NEXT PLATS FOR CORAL SPRINGS, WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

WE CAN COVER THAT IN THOSE QUESTIONS.

AS YOU SEE ABOVE HERE, THIS IS SECTION ONE THAT YOU JUST CONSIDERED TO THE TOP OF THIS PARTICULAR RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT THIS IS SOUTH MOST CERTAINLY OF THE SCHOOL.

ONE. SAPPHIRE SPRINGS IS BEING BUILT.

DOING BY YOUR SIDE? CORRECT. YES.

FASHION BOULEVARD WILL NOT.

IT SHOULD BE A FOUR LANE BOULEVARD.

THAT'S 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. LIGHT CONTROL.

SPOTLIGHTS. INTERNALLY I'M NOT AWARE OF.

INTERNALLY. I'M NOT AWARE OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT RECOMMENDATIONS.

I'LL HAVE TO VERIFY THAT.

BUT AT 521, THERE ARE SOME SIGNALIZATION.

YES. I WAS THINKING ABOUT INTERNAL.

YOU HAVE POTENTIAL, WHICH HAS A POTENTIAL TO GO ALL THE WAY.

ASHLAND BOULEVARD OR SOUTH.

ASHLAND BOULEVARD.

ASHLAND. THANK YOU, PETER.

WE HAVE. ARTERIAL ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.

MHM. I THOUGHT CANNON WAS ARTERIAL ROAD.

IT IS BACK WHEN IT.

JOHN, WHAT IS THE.

TYPICALLY. HAVE.

2400 HOMES.

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WITH THE POSSIBILITY ACCESS OFF TO THE EIGHT.

WE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WHEN HE SUBMITS THE PLANS, HE'LL PROVIDE US TRAFFIC COUNTS, EXPECTED LOADINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

QUEUING IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WITH THE SCHOOL THERE, IT'S NOT JUST FLOWING TRAFFIC, IT'S WAITING, STOPPING AND STARTING TRAFFIC, THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T IMPACT THE REST OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THAT AREA.

SO IT WILL BE IDENTIFIED ON THERE.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE MORE OF THE PLOTTING OF THIS IS THE PROPERTY.

NOT NOT THIS IS THE SOLUTION.

THIS IS THE LAYOUT.

GIVE IT UP NOW? OH, YEAH, MOST DEFINITELY.

MOST DEFINITELY. IS THAT LAYOUT? THIS IS PRESENT CONFIGURED.

WOULD IT BE? COULD IT EVENTUALLY BE? MODIFIED INTO SOME SORT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL.

YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST DON'T HAVE AND I'M FINE WITH JUST AS LONG AS IT'S THERE, AS LONG AS THERE'S LAND AVAILABLE TO MAKE IT.

EITHER IMMEDIATELY OR IN THE FUTURE.

IF NOT, THE TRAFFIC CONTROL WILL DICTATE HE'D HAVE TO COME BACK AND IT TO MAKE IT WORK.

DON, DID YOU SAY THIS IS PULMONARY? LIKE I'M SAYING, THIS IS FINAL.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S STILL MORE ACTIONS THAT HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THERE'S A SEPARATE AGREEMENT.

BUT. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING.

SO TEX-DOT IS GOING TO.

TYPICALLY REGARDING.

LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

A TRAFFIC SIGNAL FOR THAT AFTER THEY HIT.

SO THAT'S ALL IN THE.

BUT. IN THE COUNTY IS REALLY MORE INVOLVED IN IN THE ROAD AND THE MOVING THROUGH TO GO WITH THEIR MASTER PLAN OR THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND THEN PLUS THEY'D BE THE ONES THAT EVENTUALLY WOULD.

TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE ROAD.

COUNCIL.

MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT OF THE ASHLAND STREET DEDICATION, SECTION ONE AND RESERVES, BASED ON THE AGREEMENTS WITH TEXDOT AND BRAZORIA COUNTY. I COULD.

COMMENTS FOR DISCUSSION.

AFTER THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN CARRIES.

I REMEMBER 12 SESSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON FINAL PLAT OF THE ASHLAND STREET DEDICATION SESSION TWO.

[12. Discussion and possible action on the Final Plat of the Ashland Street Dedication Sec 2]

STREET DEDICATION. NUMBER TWO, ASHLAND, THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.

THIS WOULD ACTUALLY FEED OFF OF SAPPHIRE THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED FOR SECTION TWO.

THIS WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION JULY 6TH.

AS I STATED EARLIER, IT IS SUBJECT TO A WAIVER 30 DAY REQUIREMENT LETTER SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT THAT THIS BE DELAYED UNTIL TONIGHT FOR THIS PARTICULAR RIGHT OF WAY OF ALMADEN DRIVE, WHICH FEEDS OFF OF SAPPHIRE SPRINGS.

AND THIS IS JUST A 60 FOOT SHORT SEGMENT RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU SEE THERE.

IT WOULD LEAD INTO ALMADEN SPRINGS.

I'M SORRY. FROM SAPPHIRE.

COUNCIL. THIS IS A FINAL PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION STATED EARLIER. OF COURSE, BRAZORIA COUNTY WOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER THIS STREET RIGHT AWAY AND THE MAINTENANCE THEREOF AS A PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AS I STATED, THAT JUST GOT WORKED OUT WITH THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER.

COUNCIL THAT ACTION. SO THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER CONDITIONAL AGREEMENT BASED.

SUBJECT TO BRAZORIA COUNTY.

MISSOURI COUNTY. YES.

MAKE A MOTION TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF ASHLAND STREET DEDICATION.

SECTION TWO.

WITH THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN BRAZORIA COUNTY.

HAVE A NOTION. DANIEL HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

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AYE. THOSE OPPOSED.

SEEMS. SO FOUR OF THEM.

MISSION IMPOSSIBLE. ITEM NUMBER 13 DISCUSSION.

POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT OF THE ASHLAND STREET DEDICATION SESSION THREE.

[13. Discussion and possible action on the Final Plat of the Ashland Street Dedication Sec 3]

THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WOULD BE A SHORT SEGMENT OF SAPPHIRE SPRINGS, WHICH WOULD FRONT WHERE THE SCHOOL ACTUALLY WOULD EXIST JUST TO THE WEST AND NORTH OF THIS PARTICULAR STREET RIGHT OF WAY.

AS STATED EARLIER, WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION JULY 6TH WITH THE FOUR ZERO VOTE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS FINAL PLAT FOR THREE RESERVES, ONE BLOCK OF SECTION THREE EXCUSE ME, STREET DEDICATION.

SAPPHIRE SPRINGS, WHICH IS A 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WOULD BE FOUR LANES.

SO THIS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO BRAZORIA COUNTY'S FINAL APPROVAL OF THAT STREET RIGHT OF WAY AND THOSE AGREEMENTS MADE.

COUNCIL. MAKE A MOTION TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF THE ASHLAND STREET DEDICATION SECTION THREE WITH AGREEMENT BETWEEN BRAZORIA COUNTY.

LET'S HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

BY COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. CARRIES.

I NUMBER 14 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT OF THE ASHLAND CORAL HAVEN LANE STREET DEDICATION.

[14. Discussion and possible action on the Final Plat of the Ashland Coral Haven Lane Street Dedication]

THIS IS CORAL HAVEN, AS WE ALLUDED TO EARLIER.

THIS IS A RIGHT OF WAY THAT FEEDS OFF OF 521, WHICH WOULD SERVE AS, OF COURSE, ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL PLAT IN WHICH YOU ENTERTAIN AND APPROVED ON YOUR LAST MEETING, IN WHICH CORAL HAVEN WOULD OF COURSE SERVE AS SOME OF THOSE ROUTES INTO THE SCHOOL IN TERMS OF THE QUEUING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

I WILL SAY DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN JULY ON JULY 6TH, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOME CONCERNS OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF CORAL CORAL SPRINGS IN WHICH THOSE HAVE BEEN UPGRADED AND YOU WOULD SEE A FOUR LANE IMPROVEMENT TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. SO THE SCHOOL, I THINK, ADDRESSED THIS IN YOUR LAST MEETING IN TERMS OF THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THE UPGRADES TO CORAL SPRINGS, THEIR INSURANCE, THAT IT WOULD ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT WE HAD REGARDING THE SCHOOL QUEUING.

SO THIS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO, OF COURSE, STATE HIGHWAY APPROVAL, TEX-DOT COORDINATION OF THE SIGNALIZATION IS WHAT'S OCCURRING IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY AND ALSO THAT CONNECTION AND TIE IN TO THIS PARTICULAR RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WOULD OF COURSE GET YOU OVER TO SAPPHIRE SPRINGS.

AND IT'S SUBJECT TO ALSO BRAZORIA COUNTY FINAL APPROVAL.

COUNCIL. MAKE A MOTION TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF ASHLAND CORAL HAVEN, LANE STREET DEDICATION BASED ON AGREEMENTS BETWEEN DEXTER AND BRAZORIA COUNTY.

SECOND. COMMENTS.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. CARRIES.

THANK YOU. IT IS 830.

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK.

THANK YOU. THAT'S MY EXECUTIVE DECISION.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL COME BACK INTO SESSION AT 8:40 P.M.

AND WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 18 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PRELIMINARY PLAT IN RESPONSE TO THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR WINDROSE GREEN, SECTION FIVE DISAPPROVAL

[18. Discussion and possible action on a Preliminary Plat and response to the Preliminary Subdivision Plat for Windrose Green Section 5 disapproval on July 25, 2023 by City Council.]

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS THE COVER MEMO AND SUMMARY DOES MENTION, ON JULY 25TH, CITY COUNCIL, OF COURSE, DENIED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR A WINDROSE GREEN SECTION FIVE.

BASED ON THE ITEMS NOTED IN WHICH THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS OF THE READABILITY OF THE PLAT CONCERNING THE TALL POLES AND ALSO.

THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS OVER THE LOT MIX IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION THE DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING IN WITH BASICALLY MORE OR

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SO THERE WAS A CONCERN OF THE COUNCIL SINCE THAT TIME WE HAD FORWARDED THE RESPONSE LETTER OR LET'S SAY THE RESULTS LETTER TO THE APPLICANT FOR CONSIDERATION OF THAT DENIAL WITH THOSE CONCERNS AND CONDITIONS OF THE DENIAL WERE WE DID GET A RESPONSE BACK FROM THE DEVELOPER. AND THEN THERE WERE SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITH THE DEVELOPER IN A FOLLOW UP MEETING TO BASICALLY OUTLINE THE CONCERNS OF THE CITY OVERALL IN TERMS OF HOW WINDROSE GREEN IS PROGRESSING.

SO SINCE THAT TIME THE DEVELOPER MET WITH US, ALSO PRESENTED TO US THE LOT SUMMARY AND MIX PLAN, WHICH IS A PART OF YOUR PACKET, WHICH WOULD SHOW YOU THE THE EARLIER SECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FINAL SECTIONS, SIX AND SEVEN, WHICH WOULD SHOW THAT LOT MIX SPECIFICALLY THE SIZE OF THE LOTS AND THE QUANTITIES.

SO THOSE ARE ALL, I THINK A PART OF THAT PARTICULAR CONCEPT PLAN AS FORMALLY APPROVED BY THE CITY IN THE PAST, THE 647 LOTS, AS LAID OUT, WOULD COVER THIS PARTICULAR SECTION FIVE AND WOULD ILLUSTRATE WHERE IT WOULD FIT IN TO THAT LOT MIX. SO THAT BEING SAID, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS, OF COURSE, OVER THE BASICALLY OVERALL DRAINAGE AND ALSO FINAL GRADING OF WINDROSE GREEN BEING THAT THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS AS COMPARED TO DEVELOPMENTS AROUND WINDROSE GREEN AND HIGHWOOD EFFECT ARE SPECIFICALLY WHAT HAS WINDROSE GREEN DONE, I THINK IN THEIR DESIGN TO FACILITATE OR ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS ON THE OUTFLOWS ON WHAT HAPPENS DOWNSTREAM.

SO THERE ARE SOME INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET THAT WOULD OUTLINE SPECIFICALLY WHAT HAS BEEN TURNED IN TO US FROM THE ENGINEER, FROM THE TEAM, WHICH WOULD OF COURSE ADDRESS SOME OF THE REGIONAL APPROACHES AND HOW THEY'VE IMPROVED THE REGIONAL DETENTION IN THE AREA FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT HAPPENS OFF SITE, I'M GOING TO BASICALLY ALLOW THEM TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS ON THE DRAINAGE AND THE OUTFLOWS.

BUT I WANTED TO JUST CAPTURE, I THINK, MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN THE DENIAL AND THEN IF YOU WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR RESPONSES AND THEN IF THERE ARE SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS OF STAFF, OUR CITY ENGINEER LEGAL, WE'LL BE GLAD TO ASSIST COUNCIL IN GETTING ANSWERS. BUT TONIGHT WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THAT DISCUSSION TO BE HAD AND FINALLY TO CONSIDER OR RECONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF SECTION FIVE, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.

UM, SO FROM THE TEAM, I THINK WE HAVE WHAT, MR. WILCOX OR JB IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE, THE OUTLINE THAT I JUST MENTIONED AND HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF COUNCIL.

AND WELL, GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

JEB COLBY WITH CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT ON THE ON THE SECTION FIVE PLAT LIKE OTIS SAID THE THE TWO REASONS GIVEN FOR DENIAL HAD TO DO WITH THE READABILITY OF THE PLAT BECAUSE OF THE CONTOURS AND I THINK THERE'S A REQUEST TO REMOVE THE CONTOURS.

AND THEN THE SECOND REASON WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE LOT MIX DIVERSITY, PROVIDING DIVERSITY FOR THE LOT, MIX ON THE ON THE CONTOURS. THERE IS A CITY REQUIREMENT TO INCLUDE THE CONTOURS ON THE PLOT ITSELF.

BUT LISTENING IN ON THE.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

I THINK THE OVERALL INTENT OF THE COMMENT WAS IT NEEDS TO BE LEGIBLE.

YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO READ THE PLAT WHICH WE AGREED WITH.

AND SO TO TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH CITY REQUIREMENTS AND ADDRESS THE INTENT OF THE COMMENT.

OUR LAND PLANNING CONSULTANT LIGHTENED UP THE BOLDNESS OF THE CONTOUR LINES.

SO YOU CAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ THE PLAT NOW.

SO I THINK THAT ONE WAS ADEQUATELY, ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED.

AND THEN ON THE DIVERSITY OF LOT MIX, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT ITEMS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND I DON'T THINK YOU HAD THIS IN FRONT OF YOU LAST TIME TO TO REALLY REFERENCE IT.

AND IT MIGHT HAVE JUST BEEN THE ORDER IN WHICH THE THE SECTIONS ARE BEING DEVELOPED.

BUT THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN OUR INTENT THIS WHOLE TIME WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON A MIXTURE OF 40S 45 SECONDS AND

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AND WE HAVE NOT DEVIATED FROM IT IN SINCE WE STARTED DISCUSSING WITH THE CITY IN 2019.

AND SO.

THE LIKE I PRESENTED EARLIER, YOU KNOW THE THE 45 FOOT PRODUCT IS IS PROVIDING AN AVERAGE VALUE OF $334,000 HOMES.

THE 50 FOOT PRODUCT, $364,000 HOMES.

AND THEN ON THE THE MIXTURE OF LOT SIZES THEMSELVES RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 4800FT² CURRENTLY TO BEYOND 15,000FT², PUSHING 16,000FT².

SO IT GIVES THE BUILDERS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY ON WHAT THEY CAN BUILD ON THOSE LOTS.

THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO TO BUILD 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOMES TO 3300 SQUARE FOOT HOMES.

AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE THE LOT PRICE RANGE CURRENTLY OUT THERE IS FROM $250,000 ON THE LOW END AND 540,000 ON THE UPPER END.

AND SO WE FEEL LIKE WITH THIS PLAN, WE ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A GOOD A GOOD BIT OF DIVERSITY ON THE LOT SIZES, ON THE HOME SIZES AND ON THE PRICE POINTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN IN LIVING IN THIS AREA.

AND I GUESS I WOULD SAY MY FORMAL REQUEST WOULD BE THIS PLAT COMPLIES WITH THE CITY ORDINANCES, IT COMPLIES WITH CITY CRITERIA, IT COMPLIES WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH WE'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING SINCE 2020.

THE P AND Z VOTED IN IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE, I BELIEVE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVE A NO OBJECTION LETTER FOR THIS PLAT FROM HDR.

AND SO I WOULD JUST FORMALLY REQUEST CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH CITY ORDINANCES AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING. I JUST.

I KNOW YOU. YOU WEREN'T YOU HERE IN THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION.

SO I'LL TELL YOU SOME OF THE HEARTBURN THAT I'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS.

THIS WAS THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED AT THE BEGINNING THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MIX AND THESE WERE FUTURE PHASES AND.

BELFOUR'S AGREEMENT CAME IN, AND RIGHTFULLY SO.

YOU HAD THIS IN YOUR. BUT.

WHEN WAS PRESENTED TO US WAS WELL.

DON'T GET HUNG UP ON THE LOT SIZES.

THEY CAN CHANGE. THEY CAN.

AND THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PHASE.

AND WE WENT DOWN THIS ROAD REAL FAST WITH PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO.

AND THEN WHEN WE REALIZED, HOLD ON, THERE IS THE MIX THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SOMETHING BETWEEN. 60 AND 70 FOOT LOTS AS WELL.

THE ASHLAND'S CREDIT FOR YOU.

THEY HAVE THOSE.

THEY HAVE 60. AND.

THIS DOESN'T. AND THE DENSITY.

WAS ALWAYS AN ISSUE.

AND THEN PHASE THREE CAME IN AND IT'S 40 FOOT.

AND. SO.

THE HEARTBURN I'VE HAD THIS WHOLE TIME WAS I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE THE FIRST.

WE'RE THE FIRST OR THE SECOND DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME TO THE.

AND AT THE TIME, I THINK THE PROCESS WAS STILL A LITTLE MUDDY TO US.

WE THOUGHT, OH, THINGS CAN CHANGE.

BUT WE LEARNED OUR LESSON AFTER THAT.

AND. YOU'VE DEFINITELY BEEN HOLDING NEW DEVELOPMENTS TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD.

SO IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT RIGHT THAT I VOTE IN FAVOR OF YOU.

AT A TEN FOOT MINIMUM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 40 OR 50 WHEN I'M REQUIRING THE NEW GUYS TO COME IN AND.

2025. ITS SECOND PROBLEM THAT I'VE HAD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IS YOU BUILD TO THE NEW STANDARD ON DRAINAGE.

WHICH WHO KNOWS GET A VERY.

VERY WELL. GREAT JOB PUTTING THE DRAINAGE IN.

AND. AND AS EVERYONE WILL TELL ME, YOU'RE DRAINING IN YOURSELF.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR RETENTION LEGS AND YOU'RE DRAINING INTO WHERE YOU'RE AT.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU'VE BUILT THIS UP.

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AND I KNOW THAT.

BRINGING IN AND YOU'RE HOLDING YOURSELF.

BUT YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE PAST THAT THAT WAS LOW LYING AREA.

AND AND NO MATTER WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE MAKE, SOMETIMES STORMS COME THROUGH AND THEY'RE A LOT HEAVIER THAN WE ENGINEER THEM.

UH, BUT THAT WATER HAS NOWHERE TO GO NOW BECAUSE IT'S BLOCKED BY YOUR SUBDIVISION.

IT CAN. IT CAN HOLD AND GO INTO THE BRUSHY BAYOU, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO FALL AT THE RATE THAT THESE GUYS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO WANT.

SO MY CONCERN HAS BEEN, WELL, CAN THE DEVELOPMENT DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ELEVATION? AND I WAS TOLD NO.

THE PLAN THAT YOU ALL HAVE AND THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO BRING MORE DIRT.

EVEN AFTER YOU HAD EXHAUSTED ALL THE DIRT YOU REALLY NEEDED.

FREEDOM PARK. BROUGHT MORE IN.

SO THAT WAS MY SECOND ISSUE.

THE THIRD ISSUE THAT I HAD WAS WHEN THEY WERE DEVELOPING THE DITCH OR THE POND, THEY BROUGHT THE TRUCKS DOWN HENDERSON ROAD AND BROKE THE ROAD.

AND NOBODY'S GIVEN ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER YET ON HOW THAT ROAD'S GETTING FIXED OR WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAVE TOLD ME THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH IT.

THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN ISSUES THAT I'VE HAD.

I HOPE THAT HELPS. BUT I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT AND EVERYBODY.

GROUP. I DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.

I WANT TO MAKE THIS. PROVE THAT THOSE ARE MY ISSUES, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL.

AND WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE HERE.

I MEAN, I HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON THIS SUBDIVISION, SO I'M PRETTY SURE I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING PRIOR TO REACHING CITY COUNCIL WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PROPOSED TO US.

AND IT WAS A DIFFERENT DIFFERENT ERA, SO TO SPEAK.

THERE WAS A DIFFERENT MAYOR.

THERE WAS A DIFFERENT COUNCIL.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT CITY MANAGER.

THAT CITY MANAGER BASICALLY BULLIED EVERYBODY INTO AGREEING THAT THIS WAS A GREAT PROJECT.

UM, AND THEN HE WASHED HIS HANDS OF THE PROJECT.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS HE GAVE Y'ALL SO MUCH LEEWAY AND Y'ALL'S DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

HEY, MAN, I DON'T FAULT YOU IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING MONEY.

Y'ALL ARE GOING TO MAKE A TON OF MONEY OFF THIS PROJECT.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO VERY WELL.

I MEAN, THESE ARE VERY SMALL LOTS WITH VERY EXPENSIVE HOUSES.

UM. IT'S EXPENSIVE FOR BRAZORIA COUNTY.

EXPENSIVE FOR ANGLETON, TEXAS FOR.

40 FOOT FRONT AND YOU'RE GETTING $250,000 OFF THAT ONE VERY SMALL SLIVER OF.

UM, PROPERTY. BUT KUDOS TO YOU BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE IN THE GAME OF MAKING MONEY AND.

BUT IT'S A CAUTIONARY TALE TO US IN THE CITY.

I SIT HERE FOR MY TIME, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER SUBJECT TO REELECTION AND SUBJECT TO TERM LIMITS JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND MAN, THIS NEVER SHOULD HAPPEN AGAIN.

IT IT'S.

YOU'RE A GOOD SALESMAN, JEB.

BUT FOR ME TO LISTEN TO SOMEBODY AND YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE, WE'VE HEARD THE SAME PITCH OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THEN THE PITCH IS THAT 40FT LOTS ARE VERY DIVERSE FROM 45 FOOT LOTS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S REALLY I MEAN, YOU'RE SELLING ICE TO AN ESKIMO.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY ME TO TERRY ROBERTS, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SIZE OF THESE LOTS, THEY'RE NOT MUCH DIFFERENT.

FIVE FEET. TEN FEET IS FROM ME TO JOHN.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT'S A DIVERSE LOT, YOU KNOW, ASSORTMENT.

OKAY. IF YOU SAY SO.

I DON'T. I THINK IF YOU TOOK A POLL ON THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE PRETTY HEAVILY IF THAT WAS A VOTE.

IF THERE WAS A VOTE, IF THAT'S A DIVERSITY OF LOTS.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO WITH YOU.

LOSE ABOUT 95% TO FIVE, MAYBE 5% AGREES AND PROBABLY EVERYONE IN THE 5% OR DEVELOPERS.

UM, BUT IT SELLS.

I'VE BEEN OUT THERE. IT'S A PRETTY SUBDIVISION.

I'M NOT.

NOT, YOU KNOW, POO POO POO.

IN YOUR QUALITY OF WORK, YOUR WORK SEEMS TO BE.

GOOD, YOU KNOW, AND YOU BRAGGED ABOUT IT EARLIER ABOUT HOW IT WAS BEING PRAISED IN THE HOUSTON PRESS.

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I MEAN, GOOD FOR US EVENTUALLY, I GUESS.

BUT IT'S AND IT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIVE HERE IN ANGLETON.

YOU DON'T YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STAY HERE IN ANGLETON.

YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP AND YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

AND GO MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S YOUR JOB AND THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS.

I HOPE YOU DO. BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE HAVE TO.

PROTECT ANGLETON OR AT LEAST LOOK OUT FOR WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF ANGLETON.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF HIGH DENSITY LOTS ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITIZENRY WANT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHEN YOU'RE THIS CLOSE TO THE COAST, WHEN YOU'RE THIS CLOSE TO HEAVY, HEAVY RAIN AND SURGES WHAT YOU WANT.

UH, I REMEMBER HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.

I WAS TOLD THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THESE SMALLER LOTS BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE.

AND I KNOW THE MARKET'S CHANGED WILDLY.

AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T CONTROL THAT.

THAT'S NOT YOUR THAT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO CONTROL THE MARKET.

BUT I MEAN, $250,000 HOME ON A 40 FOOT FRONT.

THAT'S JUST. ESPECIALLY WITH 7% INTEREST RATES.

THAT'S THAT'S CRAZY TO ME.

I DON'T I MEAN, GOD BLESS THOSE WHO DO IT.

ANYWAY, I THINK IT'S MORE OF A.

I'M PREACHING MORE TO THE PEOPLE HERE SITTING UP HERE THAN I AM TO THEM OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T MATTER.

THEY'RE GOING TO FINISH THEIR PROJECT AND GO ON ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US, AND IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT WE SPENT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS AND ROADS WIDTHS.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND BUILD 40 FOOT WIDE LOTS AND 40 FOOT LOTS, WE REALLY HAVE TO CONSIDER THOSE OTHER OPTIONS BECAUSE WE ARE JUST GOING TO OVERLOAD OUR STREETS. FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE MODERN SOCIETY, NOBODY PARKS IN THE GARAGE.

YOU MAY BUILD A TWO CAR GARAGE AND NOBODY PARKS IN IT.

YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

AGAIN, THAT'S JUST SOCIETY.

SO YOU'RE PUTTING AT LEAST ONE, PROBABLY TWO, MAYBE EVEN THREE CARS INTO A VERY NARROW I SAY NARROW, MAYBE NOT NARROW, BUT NOT VERY LONG DRIVEWAY.

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT'S GOING TO BE BLOCKED, PROBABLY PUSHING A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT INTO THE STREET.

MAYBE. MAYBE WE'RE JUST EVOLVING.

MAYBE I'M A DINOSAUR. I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH, AND I DON'T APPRECIATE THE CHANGES IN ATTITUDES.

BUT I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EXPLORE.

YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THAT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS OF LONGER DRIVEWAYS, WIDER STREETS.

YOU KNOW, TO TO MAKE SURE THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SAFETY AND THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A. NOW, IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT SUBDIVISIONS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE.

BUT. I THINK ONE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE AND JUST SPEAKING AGAINST THE PEOPLE UP HERE AND OUT THERE AND WORK FOR CITY HALL.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MASTERING COMMUNITIES.

IT'S JUST THAT IN THE END.

IF YOU TRAVEL AROUND ENOUGH, YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE IN KATY OR PEARLAND OR ANGLETON FROM ONE MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY TO THE NEXT, AND THEY ALL END UP BEING KIND OF PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. UM, THEY DO A GOOD JOB OF DEVELOPING AND I'M SURE THEY MADE GOOD MONEY IN DEVELOPING IT.

THEY WANT TO BE IN THAT BUSINESS IF THEY WERE LOSING MONEY.

UM. BUT I THINK FOR US, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BE ANGLETON AND UNIQUELY ANGLETON.

MR. BOOTH, WHO WASN'T HERE TONIGHT, ONCE ARTICULATED THAT THE CITY OF ARLINGTON HAS HISTORICALLY MAINTAINED 60 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

I THINK THAT SHOULD BE OUR BASE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T HAVE A VARIETY.

THAT VARIETY CAN.

GO DOWN TO 50, MAYBE 45 AND RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT WE SHOULD ALSO EXTEND UPWARDS TO 70 TO 80, BUT MAYBE 100 FOOT LOTS, I DON'T KNOW.

AND SO WHEN I HEAR DIVERSITY, THAT'S WHAT DIVERSITY WHEN I THINK I MEAN, WHEN I HEAR DIVERSITY, IT'S NOT A SEPARATION OF TEN FEET.

IT'S NOT 40FT TO 50FT.

IT'S 40FT TO 80FT.

IT'S IT'S EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

BUT SOME REASON I FEEL LIKE CODE.

IT'S LIKE A CODE WORD. DIVERSITY IS LIKE THIS CODE WORD FOR WE WERE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SMALLER LOTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THIS WINK, WINK, NOD, NOD.

FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

CODE WORD. BUT.

AS FAR AS THAT'S A NICE SUBDIVISION.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE. IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE.

HOMES ARE WELL BUILT.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROADS ARE WELL BUILT TO TRAVEL AROUND.

JUST CURIOSITY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT LOCATION.

IT'S A HIGH SCHOOLS RIGHT THERE.

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IT'LL BE NICE AND EASY. ACCESS.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

I MEAN, THIS IS WATER ON THE BRIDGE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH YOU CAN DO NOW ON THIS.

IT'S HIS TO LEARN FROM IT.

AND LET'S NOT REPEAT IT.

YOU KNOW WE CAN NOT SAY.

DON'T REPEAT SOME THINGS, OBVIOUSLY.

I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE REPEATABLE THAT ARE WORTH KEEPING, BUT OTHER THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD.

LET THIS BE A STAND ALONE PROJECT AND ESPECIALLY THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

I THINK THAT'S FOR CITY MANAGER AND OTIS.

I THINK I MEAN, GRANT, I'M ONE PERSON AND YOU DON'T TAKE DIRECTION FROM ME BECAUSE I'M JUST ONE.

BUT ANYTIME A DEVELOPER COMES IN.

IF YOU IF THEY USE THE WORD DIVERSITY, SAY, I WANT TO SEE DIVERSITY.

SHOW ME 45 TO 90 FOOT LOTS.

THAT'S DIVERSITY.

YOU KNOW. BE PREPARED TO EXPECT TO BUILD LONGER DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT OUR TRAFFIC PILING UP IN THE STREETS, INHIBITING AND PROHIBITING. INGRESS AND EGRESS ON THOSE STREETS, PROHIBITING KIDS FROM PLAYING ON RIDING BICYCLES IN THOSE STREETS.

SO. MAYBE I'M JUST A LITTLE NAIVE.

SO. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

WELL, THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT TO TAKE IN THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS, IF I MAY.

YOU KNOW, AT THE RISK OF SEEING THE WORD DIVERSITY, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T JUST MEAN LARGER LOTS.

I MEAN, I LIVED IN A 40 FOOT HOME WITH MY WIFE AND FOUR KIDS, AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE COULD AFFORD AT THE TIME.

SO PEOPLE ARE PURCHASING HOMES IN WINDOWS GREEN AND THEY'RE CONSISTENTLY DOING IT.

THEY WANT TO LIVE THERE.

THE $250,000 PRICE POINT.

WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT THE HOME BUILDERS ARE SELLING THOSE HOMES FOR.

AND BUT PEOPLE ARE.

PEOPLE WANT TO PURCHASE THOSE.

THERE WAS.

YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY.

SO IF HOMEBUILDERS CAME TO US SAYING, HEY.

THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND IN THIS MARKET FOR 80 FOOT LOTS.

THEN CERTAINLY WE WOULD COME TO YOU ASKING FOR REVISION TO THIS LAND PLAN AND WE WOULD PROVIDE THEM 80 FOOT LOTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE MARKET WANTS.

BUT WE'VE HAD A HANDFUL OF BUILDERS WANTING MORE 40 MORE, 40 FIVES AND WE'VE SAID, NO, WE'RE STICKING TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED. UM.

YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A TON OF.

IT TAKES A TON OF PLANNING AND COORDINATION AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INVESTED TO GET AS FAR AS WE HAVE JUST TO THIS POINT.

AND THERE HAS TO BE SOME STABILITY IN ORDER TO UNDERWRITE A REAL ESTATE DEAL.

AND SO TO TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

COORDINATING WITH THE CITY.

ABIDING BY CITY ORDINANCES, ABIDING BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND THEN TO HAVE THAT SWITCHED ON YOU MIDWAY IS A THAT'S A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW.

BUT IN THIS CASE, WE ARE ABIDING BY ALL OF THOSE.

THE ORDINANCES, THE CRITERIA WE'VE GONE THROUGH, THE PROCESS.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH PNC, WE'VE RECEIVED NO OBJECTION LETTERS FROM HDR.

WE'RE ABIDING BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND.

AND PERSONALLY, THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS THAT THAT IMPLY THAT A DEVELOPER IS JUST AFTER MONEY AND WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE.

I MEAN, MY FATHER IN LAW LIVES IN ANGLETON.

THIS IS PERSONAL, BUT.

WHEN WE ACQUIRE A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I'M THE FIRST ONE ON SITE PRAYING FOR EVERY FAMILY THAT WILL LIVE THERE.

PRAY FOR THAT.

THEY WILL DEFY STATISTICS WITH CANCER.

PRAY FOR HEALTHY MARRIAGES.

I PRAY THAT THEIR KIDS WHO GO THROUGH TRAUMA WOULD WOULD HEAL AND GO THROUGH THAT.

I APPRECIATED YOUR PRAYER AT THE BEGINNING OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS IS ADOPTED AND HAD EARLY CHILDHOOD TRAUMA, SO I DO TAKE THAT PERSONALLY.

WE'RE NOT JUST AFTER MONEY.

WE'RE AFTER CREATING A QUALITY COMMUNITY.

I WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS JOB IF I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.

SORRY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN EMOTIONAL ON THAT.

BUT WE'VE ABIDED BY THE WE'VE ABIDED BY EVERYTHING.

WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

WE'VE COORDINATED.

WE COORDINATE ALMOST WEEKLY, IT SEEMS LIKE, AT THIS POINT WITH CITY STAFF, WHICH HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE.

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THERE'S SUCCESSES, THERE'S WINS, THERE'S CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE, BUT WE WORK THROUGH THEM ALL.

AND IT IS MY FAULT FOR NOT GIVING Y'ALL REGULAR UPDATES.

WE WE COORDINATE WITH THE CITY STAFF A LOT, AND IT'S A FOUR HOUR ROUND TRIP FOR ME TO BE HERE.

SO IT IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT, BUT BUT I'M WILLING TO DO THAT AND GIVE YOU ALL UPDATES.

AND AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TO WALK THROUGH IT.

YOU KNOW, ON ON HENDERSON ROAD, IF THAT WAS A ROAD THAT WAS INTERNAL TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WERE INVOLVED WITH THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION OF IT, I KNEW WHAT THE SUBGRADE CONDITION WAS AND WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF MAINTENANCE PROCESS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S A PUBLIC ROAD.

IT'S OPEN TO ALL TRAFFIC TO ATTRIBUTE, YOU KNOW, ANY ANY FLAW IN THAT ROAD JUST TO ONE SPECIFIC CONTRACTOR I THINK IS A BIT UNFAIR.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR A PRIVATE ENTITY TO ASSUME THE OBLIGATIONS OF A CITY OR A COUNTY AND MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC ROAD SYSTEM THERE.

DRAINAGE. I AM NOT.

IT'S A YOU KNOW, I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ON THE DRAINAGE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IMPROVED GREATLY.

THE FLOOD PLAIN WAS REDUCED IN THIS AREA, AND I BROUGHT MR. WILCOX TO SPEAK ON THAT, IF YOU WOULD, BECAUSE I DO KNOW, YOU KNOW, CHRIS AND OTIS DID MENTION TO US THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SPEAKING INTO THAT, I THINK EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO TO HEAR HOW IT WAS DONE.

AND IF YOU COULD IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS AND WHAT THE BEFORE CONDITIONS WERE, WHAT THE AFTER CONDITIONS ARE, HOW LOCKVILLE AFFECTS IT, AND THEN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEPHEN WILCOX.

I'M THE HRA DIVISION MANAGER.

S HYDROLOGY AND HYDRAULICS, WHICH IS JUST A REALLY STUPID WAY TO SAY FLOOD CONTROL, BUT SO I DO FLOOD CONTROL.

THAT'S MY BREAD AND BUTTER.

I WAS THE PRIMARY ENGINEER FOR THE DRAINAGE AND ALL THIS, SO I'LL TRY TO ANSWER ANYTHING I CAN TONIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH BACK IN HISTORY YOU WANT ME TO GO, BUT I'LL JUST QUICKLY WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE DID OR DIDN'T DO WHEN CONCOURSE STARTED LOOKING AT THE PROJECT. WE MET WITH ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND WE MET WITH THE CITY.

I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU WERE THERE OR NOT, BUT THAT FIRST MEETING.

BUT WHEN WE TALKED THROUGH TALK THROUGH RANCHO DITCH, RIGHT? I GOT HISTORY FROM ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

WHAT IS THE CONDITIONS? WHAT ARE THE FLOODING CONDITIONS? WHAT'S BEEN OCCURRING ON THE DITCH? EXCUSE ME? AND THEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE SITE AND THAT SITE RIGHT THERE ACTUALLY DRAINS MOSTLY BACK TO THE SOUTH TO BRUSHY BAYOU A LITTLE BIT, DRAINS TO THE NORTH TO 523 AND THEN A LITTLE BIT DRAINED SOUTH.

WELL, THEN THE WHOLE SOUTH BOUNDARY KIND OF GOES SOUTH AND DOES NOT COME BACK TO RANCHO DITCH.

OKAY. SO AS PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE GOT ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT, I THINK FIRST BROUGHT IT UP, SAID, LOOK, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO REPLACE THE CULVERT AT HENDERSON ROAD.

OKAY. SO WE SAID, WELL, WHY? RIGHT. THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.

AND I HAD LOOKED AT THE DRAINAGE AREA.

YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 800 ACRES OF DRAINS THROUGH HENDERSON ROAD.

IT WAS A 48 INCH CULVERT.

OKAY. THAT DOESN'T WORK, RIGHT? THAT MATH DOESN'T WORK.

SO. I THINK BETWEEN THE CITY AND ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND THE DEVELOPER, THEY SAID, LOOK, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THAT CONDITION? IS THERE A WAY? DOES THAT HELP THE DEVELOPMENT? DOES THAT HELP THE CITY? OKAY. SO THE SHORT STORY OF THAT IS THAT READ UP THERE WAS THE PREEXISTING MEANING BEFORE WE DID ANY IMPROVEMENTS AT HENDERSON ROAD.

THAT'S WHAT THAT FLOODPLAIN WOULD LOOK LIKE.

THAT DITCH WOULD SPILL OUT, FLOOD INTO THOSE AREAS.

SO THEY SAID ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT SAID, WELL, WE WANT 100 YEAR IN THE BANKS AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET IT RIGHT.

SO WE WENT, WE SIZED CULVERTS.

NOW WE DID A PRETTY COMPLEX STUDY.

WE STUDIED THE ENTIRE STRETCH OF RANCHO DITCH FROM BRUSHY BAYOU ALL THE WAY PAST THE CITY POND.

USE THE BEST TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME, WHICH IS STILL ESSENTIALLY THE METHODOLOGIES THAT HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT ARE GOING TO USE FOR THEIR NEW MAPS. SO WE APPLIED THE BEST TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAD WORKED REAL CLOSELY WITH DOUG OVER THERE ON WHAT HE WANTED.

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ACTUALLY, IT WAS 12 BY EIGHTS, BUT TO 11 BY NINES UNDERNEATH HENDERSON.

AND SO THAT BROUGHT THAT FLOODPLAIN DOWN TO WITHIN BANKS.

OKAY. WELL, YOU CAN'T JUST PUT BIGGER CULVERTS IN BY ITSELF OR YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE FLOW DOWNSTREAM.

RIGHT? SO THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE REGIONAL POND UPSTREAM WAS TO SAY, OKAY, WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME DETENTION IN HERE BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST OVER RELEASE FLOW AND FLOOD DOWNSTREAM.

SO WE SAW THAT POND.

THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WAS A BENEFIT ALSO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FOR BOTH YOU ALL.

SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THAT DIRT YOU MENTIONED THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE CAME FROM THERE.

THE THE.

SO FROM THERE.

NOW THE QUESTION TO THE FIELD, RIGHT.

CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT LAND PLAN? AND CAN I JUST TAKE THIS WITH ME SOMEWHERE? OH, THERE IS A POINTER. IT HAS A LONG WAY.

THAT'S A LONG WAY AWAY. CAN I POINT MY FINGER? IT WORKED BETTER. IF I POINT WITH MY FINGER AND I GET TO WALK AROUND WITH THE MIC, RIGHT? UH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LAND PLAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND? IT TO ONE POINT AND YOU KIND OF HIT ON IT.

WE DON'T EVER GUARANTEE THAT THERE WILL NEVER BE A RAIN EVENT THAT WON'T FLOOD SOMEBODY.

BUT JUST WE WERE DESIGNING FOR 16.5IN AND 24 HOURS.

THAT'S WHAT THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT CRITERIA IS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DESIGNING FOR.

IF IT RAINS 20IN 22, EVEN EVEN OUR OWN DEVELOPMENT MAY HAVE PROBLEMS. I'M NOT GUARANTEEING THAT NO ONE'S EVER GOING TO FLOOD.

WE'RE DESIGNING FOR THE SPECIFIC ENGINEERED STORM EVENT THAT THE AGENCY'S ASKED FOR.

SO. I THINK SO.

A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, WE LOWERED THIS 100 YEAR IN HERE.

OKAY. SO THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 25.

NOW IN THE 100 YEAR.

WELL, THESE PONDS HAVE TO BE HIGHER THAN THAT TO CREATE THE POSITIVE HEAD DIFFERENTIAL SO THAT THOSE PONDS WILL FLOW OUT TO THE DITCH.

SO WHAT YOU ENDED UP WITH IS YOU END UP WITH THE 26.4, 26.5, 26.6 ELEVATION IN THESE LAKES, BECAUSE AS THIS WATER DRAINS INTO THESE LAKES, IT'S GOT TO PUSH OUT.

OKAY. SO I CAN'T THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE LOWEST THAT WE WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN THE DIVISION.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THAT KIND OF SETS WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THE REST, RIGHT.

WELL, SO THE PROBLEM WAS YOU GET BACK UP IN HERE AND YOU GET WAY DOWN HERE AND YOU'VE GOT NATURAL GROUNDS THAT WERE 20 FOURS WHICH WERE LESS THAN THIS ELEVATION.

SO WE HAD TO AND WE'RE ALSO THIS IS REALLY KIND OF DIFFICULT FOR GRADING BECAUSE WE'RE TREADING UP TO HERE AND THEN COMING BACK AROUND.

BUT. THOSE LONG STORM SEWER RUNS.

WE HAVE TO TILT THAT LAND TO GET IT TO COME UP TO THIS DIRECTION AND THEN COME INTO THIS DETENTION POND RIGHT HERE.

SO THAT'S WHY ON THIS BOUNDARY DOWN HERE, YOU'RE SEEING ELEVATED FILL LEVELS BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO PUSH IT ALL UP, LIKE YOU SAID, KEEP IT INTERNAL AND GET IT UP TO THE DETENTION POND.

NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOPOGRAPHY, THIS LAND ALL HERE PRETTY MUCH GOES THIS DIRECTION.

SO IT'S NOT COMING BACK INTO US.

THIS LAND HERE IS GOING THIS DIRECTION, SO IT'S NOT REALLY COMING BACK INTO US.

CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU DON'T MIND? SO WE HAD SOME POCKETS THAT WERE COMING BACK OR RIGHT IN HERE AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT RIGHT IN HERE.

AND SO WE'VE PUT IN BOUNDARY SWELLS AND YOU'VE GOT SOME SPREAD OUT INLETS.

I'VE WALKED IT NOW TWICE.

I. IT LOOKS TO BE AS GOOD AS YOU'RE GOING TO EVER.

I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO PICK UP THIS LOW AREA RIGHT HERE ON THIS CHURCH.

NOW, THIS CHURCH ALSO HAD THE PROBLEM OF THE HENDERSON ROLL COVERS BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT AT GROUND ZERO FOR THAT THAT FLOODING.

WELL. SO WE'VE REMOVED MOST OF THAT BY PUTTING IN THE BIG BOX CULVERT.

SO WE'RE ONLY LEFT WITH SOME LOCALIZED PONDING RIGHT HERE.

THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS A LOT OF THIS LAND IN THE EXISTING CONDITION ACTUALLY DRAINED LIKE THIS.

AND THERE WAS A LOW AREA RIGHT HERE AND GOT INTO THE DITCH INTO ANOTHER 48 INCH CULVERT THAT CAME UNDER HENDERSON DOWN TO BRUSHY BAYOU.

SO NOW THEY DON'T EXPERIENCE ALL OF THIS.

IT'S ONLY THE POCKET OF LAND THAT THEY GOT LEFT.

AND WE'VE PUT YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND YOU CAN SEE WE PUT SOME INLETS AND SOME PIPES IN THERE TO TRY TO PICK UP ALL THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO FUNCTION BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE, AND I KNOW THAT.

SO MY OUR DESIGN ENGINEERS HAVE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE CHURCH TO GET SOMETHING IN THAT WORKS FOR THEM, MAKE SURE THOSE TREES WERE PROTECTED AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

SO THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOUR APARTMENT COMPLEX.

NOW THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INTERNAL DRAINAGE THAT PICKS THEM UP AND PRETTY MUCH TAKES CARE OF THEM AND THEY CAME SOUTH DOWN INTO HERE, INTO BRUSHY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE OVERALL, I THINK, OF THE OFF SITES, WHICH I THINK WAS THE GENESIS OF YOUR QUESTION.

BUT THE FILL IS JUST WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY AT 26.5 AND THEN YOU GOT TO RAISE THIS LAND TO TILT IT, TO GET IT TO COME BACK, IT CREATES IT CREATES THAT HIGH EFFECT

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AND I KNOW IT'S NOTICEABLE.

YEAH, WE AND I KNOW THAT LOOKS BAD TO YOU ALL.

I'VE GOT ONE OVER IN WEST HARRIS COUNTY THAT I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T MAKE THIS JOKE.

THERE'S AN OLD OLD CHURCH IN THE FLOODWAY RIGHT NEXT TO IT ON SOUTH MIGHTY AND I THINK THE FIELD GOT ABOVE THE STEEPLE.

SO THE GUYS AT WORK WERE JOKING THAT FIELD ABOVE GOD.

BUT I MEAN, SOMETIMES YOU JUST WHEN EVERYTHING'S SO FLAT AND THAT FLOODPLAIN IS ALREADY ABOVE THE BANK, YOU'RE STUCK WITH SOME CONSTRAINTS THAT YOU JUST CAN'T. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF FIELD TO GET YOURSELF OUT.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S KIND OF GOING ON WITH THIS TRACT RIGHT HERE.

AND I'M SURE Y'ALL DROVE BY IT FOR YEARS.

IT'S IT WAS INCREDIBLY FLAT.

THERE'S VERY LITTLE SLOPE ACROSS.

IT TAKES A LOT OF DIRT TO TILT THAT TO GET IT TO GO THE WAY WE WANT IT.

BECAUSE WHAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT YOU DON'T WANT YOUR INTERNAL COMING THIS WAY.

THAT'S WHAT WILL HURT SOMEBODY.

YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT INTERNAL GET THAT TO RANCHO DITCH WHERE WE'VE GOT IT CONTROLLED IN THOSE BOX CULVERTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT QUESTIONS BEYOND THAT.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. NO, THAT WAS FINE.

GO AHEAD. SO.

I APPRECIATE YOU WALKING US THROUGH THAT AND IT'S VERY HELPFUL.

STILL, THOUGH, IF YOU GO FROM THE 523 CORNER ON THE NORTH SIDE AND YOU TAKE YOUR LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THE WEST BOUNDARY AND YOU GO STRAIGHT DOWN AND THEN YOU GO TO OUT TO THE DITCH AND THEN YOU GO STRAIGHT DOWN, YOU HAVE BASICALLY CREATED A DAM BETWEEN THE TWO ROADS BECAUSE HENDERSON'S A HIGHER ROAD IN 523 IS BUILT UP BY TEX-DOT.

SO EVERYTHING WEST OF IT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. BACK IN THE DAY, IT USED TO FLOW INTO THAT PROPERTY, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU EVEN SAID IT YOURSELF.

THERE WAS WATER STANDING.

THAT WAS A LOW AREA. HE BUILT IT UP.

SO YOU CREATED THIS? DAMN. WHERE THE CAN'T FLOW BACK TOWARDS IT, IT HAS TO FLOW INTO THE DITCH.

SO YOU'VE DONE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DITCH.

I WILL SAY THIS ABOUT CONCOURSE.

YOU ALL HAVE BEEN GREAT ABOUT WORKING WITH US ON HENDERSON DETENTION AND AND THE NEW POND.

THERE ARE SOME ISSUES ON THE POND, BUT NONETHELESS, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP.

WELL, WHAT'S CONCERNING IS RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE SECTION THREE WRITTEN OUT RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S ANOTHER SUBDIVISION GOING.

THEY CAN'T BUILD THEIR SUBDIVISION UP THE WAY YOU DID BECAUSE.

THEN THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY FLOOD.

DEVELOPMENT RIGHT BELOW THEM.

SO WHAT WE'VE CREATED IS A RUSH TO GET DIRT AND BUILD UP EVERYTHING.

AND THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO LOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE ALREADY THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST YOUR DEVELOPMENT, IT'S ALL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE DOING THIS.

THE FLOODPLAIN CHANGES THAT WE MADE AFTER HARVEY AND.

I MEAN, DONALD, I WAS GOING TO SAY, WELL, IT'S GOT TO BE DONE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT PEOPLE.

THE. IT'S GOING TO HELP YOU.

WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR YOUR SUBDIVISION.

I SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING, I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE WAY IT'S FLOWING AND YOU'RE RETAINING IN YOUR AREA.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT IT'S STOPPING THE FLOW FROM OTHERS BECAUSE IT WAS IT USED TO BE FLAT LAND.

WELL, THE ONLY PLACE I'LL DISAGREE IS THAT.

WE HAVE NOW DESIGNED THE TOTAL SYSTEM, NOT JUST OUR SYSTEM, TO HANDLE THE ATLAS 14 100 YEAR STORM EVENT WHICH JUST DITCHED, DID NOT HANDLE.

SO WHILE THERE WAS OVERBANK FLOODING THAT CAME THIS DIRECTION.

THE IMPROVEMENTS AT HENDERSON AND THE DETENTION THAT HAS BEEN DONE HAS LOWERED THAT ELEVATION.

AS SUCH, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A MUCH HIGHER RAIN EVENT NOW FOR THIS FIELD TO HAVE THAT IMPACT THAT YOU'RE SAYING BEFORE, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT IN AN EIGHT, TEN, TEN INCH EVENT. NOW YOU'VE GOT ALMOST 17IN OF PROTECTION UP TO THAT LEVEL THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

SO THAT LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

SURE. BEFORE YOU PUT MORE HOUSES IN OVER HERE.

IS IT SLOPED IS IT READY TO HANDLE THE RAIN? NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR REGIONAL POND.

IT'S THE IT'S DUG OUT.

RIGHT. SO.

YEAH, THE VOLUME IS THERE.

I DROVE. I LOOKED, I STOPPED AND LOOKED.

I OBVIOUSLY HAVE MY GOOD SHOES ON, SO I DIDN'T WALK ACROSS THE OUT INTO IT, BUT I LOOKED FROM THE ROAD AND THE VOLUME IS ALL THERE.

IT'S NOT PRETTIED UP, IT'S NOT SIDE SLOPES ARE NOT CUT, BUT THE HOLE IS THERE.

YEAH. IF YOU HAVE A RAIN EVENT, THAT HOLE, THAT VOLUME IS GOING TO BE THERE AND IT'S GOING TO DETAIN.

RIGHT. IT'S ALREADY ATTACHED TO THE DITCH.

AND IS IT THE GATES? AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE.

I CAN'T TELL YOU IF THEY'VE CUT THE WEIRD YET OR NOT, BUT I THOUGHT THE WEIRD HAD ALREADY BEEN CUT.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE.

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I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER.

NO. NO.

100%. I AGREE. 100%.

YES. NO, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU WALKING US THROUGH THAT.

AND I THINK WE BOTH AGREE THAT IT'S BUILT UP.

I'M NOT THE ENGINEER, SO I'LL HAVE TO TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT THAT THE DITCH CAN HANDLE.

ALL OF THAT. THE FLOODING AREAS AROUND THERE THAT I WAS.

I WOULD SAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.

WE HAVE SUBMITTED THAT REPORT TO ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND THEY'VE APPROVED IT.

AND WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE REVISIONS TO UPDATE FOR CHANGES, PARTICULARLY WITH THE REGIONAL POND.

SO WE HAD THEM BEFORE.

WE HAD THE AFTER. YEAH, THAT WAS YOU GO BACK.

IS THAT THE. THAT'S THE ONE.

THE BLUE IS THE THE RED IS THE BEFORE THE.

SO EVERYTHING IN RED.

SCROLL DOWN, PLEASE. THE RED IS A FLOODPLAIN THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED.

MEANING? OKAY, SO WHAT'S LEFT IS DOWN IN THE BLUE.

HERE IS OUR POND. THAT'S THERE NOW, EXCEPT FOR THE CORNER.

THIS LITTLE CORNER RIGHT HERE WITH NO.

RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE SCHOOLS.

SO ONCE UPON THEIR. IT'S.

IT'S ON YOUR MAP.

IT'S DRY. IT'S NOT REAL DEEP.

OH, IT'S DRY. IT'S LIKE, REAL WIDE.

VERY SHALLOW. IT'S A DRY, DRY RETENTION.

YEAH. AND THEN THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

REDUCTION OF STREAM RIGHT FROM RED.

SO ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN RANCHO AREN'T GOING TO FLOOD? WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NORTH OF RANCHO, RIGHT? IT RANGE 26IN.

I AGREE WITH YOU. I SAID IT MYSELF.

YOU CAN ONLY ENGINEER WHAT YOU CAN ENGINEER.

COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE DRAINAGE? THANK YOU. I PROMISE I WON'T GET EMOTIONAL ON YOU AGAIN.

WELL, I STILL HAVE SOME. I STILL HAVE SOME COUNTER ARGUMENTS TO YOU.

OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

I DO APPRECIATE YOUR PRAYER AND YOUR PRAYERS OVER NEW SUBDIVISIONS.

THAT'S VERY, VERY KIND THING TO DO, TO SAY THAT THESE HOUSES ARE SELLING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THE SIZE LOT IS NOT FAIR TO SAY.

BEFORE YOUR SUBDIVISION, ANGLETON HAD A SEVERE LACK OF FOUR BEDROOM HOMES.

PEOPLE ARE BUYING IN YOUR SUBDIVISIONS BECAUSE YOU OFFER A THREE BEDROOM WITH AN OFFICE, FOUR BEDROOM AND FOUR BEDROOM WITH AN OFFICE AND BONUS ROOM AND FIVE BEDROOM HOMES.

THEY ARE HAVING TO SACRIFICE THEIR LOT SIZES SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE EXTRA BEDROOM TO HOUSE THEIR CHILDREN OR PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS.

TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE SOME LARGER LOTS MIXED INTO THERE.

THERE'S ABOUT 40 OUT OF THE 647, AND THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE CURVES AND THERE THE COURT LOTS AND.

AND TO SAY THE MARKET IS DICTATING IT, IT'S THE BUILDERS DICTATING IT.

AN 80 FOOT LOT IS NOT AS MUCH MONEY AS TWO 40 FOOT LOTS.

AND THERE'S JUST NO WAY AROUND THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S MULTIPLE OPINIONS AND PERSPECTIVES, YOU KNOW.

I CAN TELL YOU PROBABLY SPOKE TO SOMEONE IN THAT EXACT SITUATION, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DON'T WANT A LARGE LOT TO MAINTAIN. YOU KNOW, MY GRANDMOTHER DOES NOT WANT TO MOW A LOT.

SHE WANTS A TINY YARD AND SHE WANTS A LITTLE HOME.

AND SO THERE'S THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WITH DIFFERENT PREFERENCES, YOU KNOW, AND SO TO TO LUMP THEM ALL ON THE EXTREME SIDE OF IT, EVERYONE WANTS A LARGE LOT. THAT'S NOT COMPLETELY ACCURATE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT IS TRUE FOR SOME PEOPLE.

IT'S NOT TRUE FOR ALL PEOPLE, THOUGH.

BUT NO ONE'S SAYING EVERYONE WE I'M AGREEING WITH.

YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE SAYING THE SAME THING IN SOME CASES, HOLLOWAY SAID.

IS IS I THINK OUR OBJECTION WAS LACK OF DIVERSITY.

YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL US THAT 40 AND 50 FOOT LOTS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

THAT TEN FEET SEPARATES CREATES DIVERSITY.

WE JUST DISAGREE.

WE I MEAN, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT 40 FOOT LOTS.

WON'T BE SOLD. THAT'S CLEAR.

THEY WERE. THERE'S THERE'S SOME NEED FOR IT.

WHAT I'M ASKING FOR US IS TO LOOK AT THE LONG TERM FUTURE OF ANGLETON.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO 40 FOOT LOTS, THEN WE NEED TO PUT OTHER MEASUREMENTS IN PLACE, SUCH AS LONGER DRIVEWAYS OR WIDER ROADS.

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THAT'S FOR US TO DECIDE.

WHEN I SAY NOT FOR YOU, YOU'VE GOT YOUR DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WILL BE COMING.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT NOW AND LEARN FROM THIS EXPERIENCE THAN GO THROUGH PERHAPS MORE HEARTACHE OR CONCERNS FOR THE FUTURE.

BUT THE QUESTION IS TONIGHT, TRYING TO GET NARROW DOWN HERE WAS DIVERSITY.

YOU WANTED TO HEAR WHAT OUR OBJECTION IS.

I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU THAT THE DIVERSITY BETWEEN 40 AND 50 FOOT LOTS.

IT'S NOT MUCH, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL US LIKE IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THE WORLD.

TEN FEET IS NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE.

IT'S PROBABLY FIVE FOOT ON ONE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND FIVE FOOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH AGAIN, IS NOT TOO FAR FROM TERRY AND I.

SO ANYWAY, YOU WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR OBJECTION? THAT WAS OUR OBJECTION.

OKAY. I.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO EVERYTHING YOU SAID IN RESPONSE, BUT, I MEAN, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, IF PEOPLE CAME TO US, WE WOULD HAVE.

I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT IN MY LIFE.

I'VE DEALT WITH DEVELOPERS AND PURCHASING HOMES MYSELF.

IF YOU'RE EXPLAINING TO ME THAT IF ONE SINGLE RESIDENT HAD COME TO YOU AND SAID, HEY, I WANTED A 80 FOOT LOT, YOU WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED DOING THAT.

NO, THE THE BUILDERS THEMSELVES.

THE BUILDERS. EXACTLY.

AND THE BUILDERS ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF.

MAKING MONEY AS WELL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET A BETTER RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT IF THEY BUILD A VERTICALLY HOUSE, YOU KNOW.

AND CHARGE A NICE WHICH I'M SURE OF APPROPRIATE FEE FOR BUILDING THAT STRUCTURE.

UM. ON A 40 FOOT LOT WHEN THEY COMMIT TO HOUSES.

AND LIKE COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL WAS SAYING, I DON'T KNOW.

MY POINT IS GOING BACK.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY.

I'VE GIVEN YOU A REASON I DON'T SEE THE DIVERSITY THAT YOU'RE EXPRESSING AND JUST.

FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, OUR FRUSTRATIONS WITH THE WORD DIVERSITY IS YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY DEVELOPER OR ONLY DEVELOPER BUILDER IN TOWN BECAUSE EVERYONE SAID EVERYONE'S LOOKING FOR 40S AND 50S.

WELL, WE SAW NO DIVERSITY IN THE BIGGER SCHEME OF THINGS AS ANGLETON IS.

WHEN THE DEVELOPERS CAME HERE, THEY ALL WANTED THE SAME THING.

SO US TO US, IT WASN'T DIVERSITY.

EVERYONE'S ASKING IF EVERYBODY'S ASKING FOR THE SAME SIZE SLOTS.

THAT'S A VERY VALID POINT.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF OUR PERSPECTIVE.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND SOME CASES.

SAME BUILDING. YOU KNOW, SO.

THAT WAS MY COUNTER TO YOU AS WELL.

THE SAME THING DANIEL SAID WAS.

THE BUILDERS HAVE BEEN DICTATING THIS ALL ALONG.

AND THOSE WERE BOTH OUT-OF-TOWN DEVELOPERS.

THEY WEREN'T FROM THEY WEREN'T LOCAL.

NOW IRANIAN AND LENNAR AND THOSE GUYS, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OVER THERE.

I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT'S A NICE SUBDIVISION TO DRIVE THROUGH AND TO SEE AND.

I DON'T CURRENTLY I DO KNOW ONE PERSON THAT.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS STILL BEEN.

WE SEE DEVELOPMENTS UNDER FOOT.

LOTS. 70 FOOT LOTS.

WE'RE SELLING. DOWN SOUTH OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS.

SO. SO WE KEPT SAYING, WHY IS THERE NO DIVERSITY? WELL, THERE'S JUST NO MARKET FOR IT.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDERS ARE TELLING YOU.

BUT WE'RE SEEING.

THE OPPOSITE. WE'RE SEEING EVERYTHING.

NOT JUST ONE ALL ALL EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID.

NOW, IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE NOW WITH INTEREST RATES AND ECONOMY? THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. BUT I THINK IT'S A FAIR POINT THAT THE COUNCIL IS MAKING THAT.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO SAY THAT THE MARKET SAYS THIS WHEN THE BUILDERS ARE DICTATING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK.

THEY'RE JUST NOT. THEY THEY KNOW THEIR MARKET.

THEY KNOW THEIR PRICE POINTS.

THEY KNOW THEIR MARGINS.

THEY CAN GET MORE MARGIN OFF OF A SMALLER LOT HOME, SMALLER.

LOT BIGGER.

UM, BUT TOWNSEND SAYS THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD TAKE NOTE ON IS YOU.

YOU SAID A WHILE AGO THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN MY FIRST THREE POINTS THAT I MADE THAT WE COULD WORK ON, BUT THEN YOU CAME BACK AND TOLD ME THAT REALLY THERE.

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STAFF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WERE THEY GIVEN DIRECTION TO USE A DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE ROUTE AND THEY USED.

THEY TOLD TO GO STAY OFF HENDERSON.

WE CHANGED THAT AFTER WE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WAS ROAD DAMAGE.

AND SO WE WENT TO THEM AND SAID, CAN YOU PLEASE CHANGE YOUR ROUTE? AND THAT'S WHEN THEY WENT THE NORTHERN ROUTE ON 523.

SO. WE.

IT IS A FAIR POINT TO SAY THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF A ROAD, BUT IT'S ALSO UNFAIR TO SAY THAT THERE'S NO SPECIFIC EVIDENCE THAT YOU DAMAGED THE ROAD.

WHEN WE REALIZED REAL QUICK WHAT WAS GOING ON, YOU HAD A THOSE WERE HEAVY TRUCKS AND YOU HAD A LOT OF THEM GOING.

SO WE KNEW THE CONDITION.

THAT ROAD HAD JUST BEEN REPAVED IN THE LAST.

SAY 5 OR 6 YEARS.

IT WASN'T THAT OLD. AND THE REPAYMENT SCHEDULE, SO.

NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S. BEFORE THAT.

GARBAGE TRUCK AND A SCHOOL BUS.

SO. THAT.

THAT IS A FAIR POINT FROM MY SIDE.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO DISPARAGE WHAT.

DONE. YOU BUILT A.

A GREAT SUBDIVISION.

I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, YOU SAID YOU WERE BUILDING YOUR SECOND PARK.

ARE YOU WORKING ON THE PARK IN FRONT OF PHASE THREE? YES, SIR. AND PHASE ONE.

THAT PART. OR FALLS.

LAST TIME I DROVE OUT THERE, IT WASN'T DONE.

IS IT DONE? MM.

UM. BUT YEAH, THOSE.

COUNCIL'S FRUSTRATION IS JUST.

FROM WHERE IT STARTED AND WHERE IT'S AT NOW AND.

I THINK SOME OTHER FRUSTRATION IS ALSO.

THE POND WITH THE DIRT.

ANYHOW, WE'RE DONE. AND WE PAID $92,000 TO SOMEBODY TO COME AND GRAB THAT DIRT AND TAKE IT.

BUT IT WAS LIKE AN EXTRA MILE.

FROM THERE. WE COULD HAVE WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT.

EVER. WE PAID, WE HAD IT BROUGHT.

BUT AFTER YOU HAD MET ALL THE DIRT REQUIREMENTS, YOU STILL TOOK MORE.

BECAUSE IT WAS THERE, YOU HAD TO GET IT OUT.

THAT RING A BELL? I WOULD SAY.

COORDINATING THE DIRT WE HAD.

I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NUMBER.

IT WAS OVER 100,000 YARDS OF DIRT THAT WE OFFER TO THE CITY.

WE COORDINATED WITH JOHN FOR SOME TIME IN MEGAN FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.

WE WERE THE ONE PUSHING.

WE WERE THE ONE PUSHING, WE WERE THE ONE PUSHING.

BUT THERE'S PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT HAVE TO BE IN PLACE.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS WE GOT APPROVAL FOR 15,000 YARDS.

AND SO AND SO WE WEREN'T GOING TO SHUT THE CONTRACTOR DOWN AND HAVE ALL THAT EQUIPMENT ON SITE JUST SITTING IDLE FOR WE PROBABLY WORKED FOR 4 OR 5 MONTHS TRYING TO COORDINATE THAT.

AND THEN IT ENDED UP BEING AT THE LAST SECOND.

AND SO WE SAID, LET'S PROVIDE THEM WHAT THEY WANT.

15,000 YARDS. SO THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

BUT ORIGINALLY IT WAS GOING TO THE SOCCER FIELDS, IT WAS GOING TO THE FIRING RANGE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THERE WAS ANOTHER PARK, I FORGET WHICH, WHERE IT WAS LAKESIDE.

AND YEAH, WE WAITED FOR A LONG TIME FOR THE QUANTITY OF DIRT THAT EACH OF THOSE NEEDED.

SO IT WAS NOT FOR LACK OF TRYING ON OUR PART.

WELL, I MEAN, I THINK.

WHATEVER. I'M NOT GOING TO RELITIGATE IT.

WELL, FOREST COUNCIL IS TO APPROVE OR.

AFTER THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

FIVE. ACTION.

MOST PEOPLE WANT TO.

AND IF I COULD JUST SAY ONE MORE THING.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I REALIZE, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO YOUR CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU HAVE A LARGER PERSPECTIVE THAN ANY SINGLE DEVELOPER.

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YOU'RE SEEING IT FROM MULTIPLE BUILDERS.

YOU'RE SEEING WHAT YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION CAUSES DISTURBANCE IN MORE AND MORE OF THAT IS HAPPENING AND PEOPLE GET UPSET AND Y'ALL ARE THE ONES ARE HAVING TO FIELD THOSE CALLS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I'D SAY THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH COORDINATION WITH THE CITY TO ARRIVE AT THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE AND WE'RE IMPLEMENTING IT AND WE CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT JUST WORRIED ABOUT OURSELVES.

AND SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU VOTE IN A MANNER THAT HONORS THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

PROMOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WHEN ROSE SECTION FIVE ON ROSE GREEN.

I'M SORRY, SECTION FIVE.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILOR ROBERTS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN? WELL, AS I SAID, I'M.

WELL, WE'LL DISAGREE ON THE LOT SIZE MIX.

AND BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT WHERE WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO.

I FEEL LIKE. IT WAS.

WHAT STARTED THE WHOLE BALL ROLLING FOR US? I STILL THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR NEGOTIATION ON SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED.

AND. UM, I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY RIGHT NOW THAT.

FROM MY SIDE, I WOULD I WOULD APPRECIATE CONCOURSE DEVELOPMENT WORKING WITH.

MAY. OR YOU CAN DO IS ASK NICELY.

WE'LL SEE. AFTER THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. AYE.

FOR THE RECORD, I THINK THAT'S.

ONLY THE FIRST TIME.

AND. BUT.

ALL WERE SO FAR DOWN THE LINE NOW.

NOTHING THAT CAN GO BACK.

I STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH IT.

AND I WISH THAT.

I WISH I KNEW NOW WHEN I.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, AND THAT IS ADJOURNMENT.

AND WE WILL ADJOURN AT 9:39 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.