Sep 19, 2023 Special City Council

ALL RIGHT.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

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WE HAVE A FULL QUORUM TONIGHT.

AND WE DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WITH ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT ARE LISTENING AND ATTENDANCE.

[1. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230912-001 to adopt the Fiscal Year 2023-2024 Annual Budget for the City of Angleton, Texas for the Fiscal Year beginning on October 1, 2023, and ending on September 30, 2024; and declaring an effective date. ]

TO ADOPT THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 2024 ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

WE WANT TO START. I'LL START.

OKAY. I'D LIKE TO START TONIGHT BY SHOWING YOU ON THE SCREEN IS THE CALCULATION WORKSHEET THAT I GOT FROM THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR.

AND IT SHOWS OUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF 0.512315.

THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF 0.523013.

AND THE DE MINIMIS RATE AT 0.525367.

NOW ON THIS SPREADSHEET, I'VE GOT A BREAKDOWN OF THE TAX RATE BY M&O AND INS. AND THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WILL GENERATE A TOTAL OF $9,083,000, AND NO PORTION OF THAT IS 7,721,000. THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WILL GENERATE A TOTAL OF 9,273,000, AND THE ONLY PORTION OF THAT IS 7,907,000.

AND THEN THE DE MINIMIS RATE WILL GENERATE A TOTAL OF 9,314,000 AND AN O&M RATE OF 7,948,000.

NOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GOING TO THE VOTER, THE DE MINIMIS RATE OR THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

AND AFTER MAKING SOME CHANGES AND DISCUSSING IT WITH CHRIS, WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND GOING SLIGHTLY UNDER THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND GOING TO A RATE OF 0.52301, WHICH WOULD GENERATE A TOTAL OF $9,273,040 OR A M AND O PORTION OF $7,907,676.

TO SHOW YOU HOW THE DIFFERENT RATES WILL AFFECT A PERSON'S TAX BILL.

THIS IS PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY IF YOU HAVE $100,000 HOUSE.

THE TAX, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WOULD BE $512 FOR THE YEAR AND THE DE MINIMIS RATE WOULD BE $525.

THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WOULD BE 523 FOR $500,000.

HOUSE. THE ANNUAL TAX BILL FOR THE NO NEW REVENUE WOULD BE 2 MILLION.

I MEAN $2,561.

THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WOULD BE $2,615 AND THE DE MINIMIS WOULD BE $2,626.

THAT'S TWO.

SO, YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW THE DIFFERENT TAX RATES WILL AFFECT THE TAXPAYERS.

NOW WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

THE. THE CHANGES TO THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

SO, WHAT I'VE DONE PRESENT WHAT I'M PRESENTING HERE IS THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE 22-23 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

THE SECOND COLUMN IS THE BUDGET THAT WE PRESENTED ON IN JULY.

AND THEN THE THIRD COLUMN IS THE CHANGE.

AND IN THE COLUMN F HERE, THAT IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WE PRESENTED LAST WEEK.

AND THEN THE FINAL COLUMN IS THE CHANGE FROM THE 22-23 BUDGET.

NOW, IF YOU NOTICE THE COMPARING THIS JULY BUDGET TO THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, SO THE PERSONNEL COST WENT DOWN BY ABOUT $142,000.

THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THAT IS THE HEALTH INSURANCE WHEN IT WAS BUDGETED IT LAST YEAR OR FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR, IT WAS WAY, WAY, WAY MORE MONEY THAN WAS NEEDED WAS BUDGETED.

AND SO, WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT THOSE AT THAT BUDGET.

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UH, SALARIES DID INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND.

HEALTH INSURANCE SUBSIDY.

THAT IS THE PORTION OF THE INSURANCE BILL THAT THE CITY PICKS UP FOR THE EMPLOYEES' DEPENDENTS.

I SEPARATED THAT OUT OF JUST THE REGULAR HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS SO THAT WE COULD SEE THAT.

AND. IF YOU COMPARE THE CURRENT THE BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST WEEK TO THE ORIGINAL THE BUDGET ON FROM 20 TO 23, THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT RIGHT THERE, THE $409,000, THAT IS THE MONEY THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR, IT WAS CALLED BUDGETED VACANCIES.

THAT WAS CARRIED OVER INITIALLY IN THE BUDGET THAT WE PRESENTED IN JULY.

AND WE'VE TAKEN IT OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, OUT OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

THE NEXT AREA IS THE SERVICES.

AND IN JULY THEY ONLY WENT UP ABOUT $17,000.

BUT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, IT WENT UP 146,000.

AND WHERE ARE OUR SERVICES? WELL. I DON'T HAVE THAT BROKE DOWN.

I APOLOGIZE.

SUPPLIES WENT UP 97,000IN JULY AND ABOUT 75,000 IN.

UH, THE BUDGET WE PRESENTED LAST WEEK.

THE BIGGEST.

THE BIG INCREASE WE HAD; WE WERE PROPOSING A FUEL INCREASE OF AN INCREASE IN OUR FUEL SUPPLIES OF $21,000. AFTER OUR MEETINGS, WE WENT BACK AND TOOK THAT OUT.

SO, THE SUPPLIES WILL GO UP ABOUT $71,000 REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.

THEY ORIGINALLY, THEY WENT DOWN $70,750.

THE BIGGEST DRIVER OF THAT WAS THE 63,400IN REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF EQUIPMENT.

THE THAT IS BECAUSE IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, ALL OF THE SOFTWARE FEES WERE BUDGETED.

THE ANNUAL SOFTWARE FEES WERE BUDGETED AS IN REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF EQUIPMENT.

I ASKED. WE TOOK THOSE OUT AND IT'S DOWN HERE UNDER ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.

SO THAT'S THE REASON REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT WENT DOWN SO FAR.

UH. THEN IN THE MISCELLANEOUS.

THIS WAS THE.

THE LAST SECTION.

ORIGINALLY, WE SHOWED IT SHOWED IT GOING UP $523,000.

AFTER THE MEETING IN JULY, WE WENT BACK, AND WE MADE SOME CHANGES.

WE DROPPED THE.

OVERLAYS TO.

WELL, WE LEFT THE OVERLAYS AT $50,000.

I KNOW LAST WEEK Y'ALL APPROVED OVERLAYS, THE NEXT STREET OVERLAYS AND WE THOSE THE REST OF ABOVE THE 50,000 IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE DEBT SERVICE MONEY THAT WE'VE GOT.

UH, SIDEWALKS WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO $200,000 AND THAT WAS DROPPED DOWN TO 70.

UH, DROP DOWN TO A $75,000.

SO, WE'VE MADE WE MADE SEVERAL CHANGES TO TRY TO GET THE BUDGET DOWN.

AND NOW THIS SPREADSHEET.

SHOWS THE.

THE VARIOUS REVENUES BY THE TAX RATE THAT I'VE SHOWN YOU EARLIER.

THIS FIRST COLUMN HERE IS THE NO NEW REVENUE, THEN THE DE MINIMIS, THE VOTER APPROVAL.

AND THEN COMING ON DOWN WITH THE OWNER AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AS WE PRESENTED LAST WEEK, WE HAVE AN EXCESS OF REVENUE OVER EXPENSES OF $436,000.

THE DE MINIMIS RATE WOULD GENERATE A 663,000 MORE THAN EXPENSES.

THE VOTER APPROVALS SLIGHTLY LESS AT 622,000.

AND THEN LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO WE WERE RECOMMENDING SLIGHTLY BELOW THE NOTED REVENUE, I MEAN, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

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PACKAGES THAT YOU WERE PRESENTED.

CAN YOU READ BOTH OF THOSE? NOT REALLY, BUT NOT TO ME.

SIGHS IT'S MORE THE KIND OF.

IT'S FADED. IT'S FADED, OR THERE'S A LOT OF LIGHT SHINING ON IT, SO.

DO YOU WANT? CAN SOMEONE GO OVER TO THAT, PLEASE? I. THAT'S BETTER.

OH, YEAH, MUCH BETTER. OKAY.

WITH THE $436,000 THAT WE HAVE IN REVENUES.

UH, WE. YOU COULD DO THE $171,000 FOR THE POLICE OFFICER STEP PLAN PLUS.

PLUS, IT WOULD COST $47,000 TO PUT ALL OF DISPATCH ON THE STEP PLAN LIKE WE DID THE SWORN OFFICERS.

SO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S A TOTAL OF $219,000 FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS. AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM, IT WOULD COST $110,000 TO DO A53 1% RAISE WITH 5% RECEIVING A RAISE ON TEN ONE.

AND LIKE WE DID THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR; THE 3% AND 1% RAISES WOULD BE GRANTED ON APRIL 1ST.

AND THEN. SO.

110,002. WHATEVER THAT OTHER NUMBER WAS.

219. SO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 329, 330, THAT OF THE 430,000 WE SPENT OR WE'VE I'M RECOMMENDING.

AND BEYOND THAT, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE IT UP TO YOU ALL.

WHY IS IT JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, ASKING THE QUESTION, IF WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHY ARE YOU RECOMMENDING JUST BELOW THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WHEN YOU CAN STILL FUND YOUR POLICE FUNDING AND YOUR COLAS? WHY WOULD WE GO HIGHER THAN THAT WITH NO PLANS? WELL, WE I WOULD GO I'M RECOMMENDING HIGHER THAN THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE.

THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE ASKED FOR THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OR COULD USE.

AND SO.

I'M. LEAVE IT UP TO YOUR DISCRETION.

CAUSE TO ME RIGHT NOW.

AND I APPRECIATE ALL STAFF BEING HERE TONIGHT.

THAT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE.

YOU KNOW, I GO BACK AND FORTH ON I AGREE ON THE FIRST TWO THINGS YOU'VE RECOMMENDED ON SPENDING WITH THE EXTRA MONEY.

BUT I ALSO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A TAX RATE OR SALES TAX RATE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIT, I THINK, WHAT, 10%? YES, SIR. AND AN UNCERTAIN ECONOMY.

I WOULD HATE TO PUT ALL THAT MONEY INTO CERTAIN PROJECTS ALREADY, NOT KNOWING HOW THE FISCAL YEAR IS GOING TO GO.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO FUND SOMETHING, YOU FUND IT AT THE END OF THE BUDGET CYCLE, NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET CYCLE.

JUST FOR CONTINGENCY IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS.

WE ALSO HAD OUR AUDIT COME BACK AND SAY THAT OUR FUND BALANCES ARE TOO LOW.

RIGHT. WE TOOK TOO MUCH MONEY OUT OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE'RE BELOW THE 90-DAY THRESHOLD RIGHT NOW.

YES, SIR. SO, I MEAN, WHILE IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE THE MONEY AND BE ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY, IT'S ALSO GREAT TO BUILD THOSE RESERVES BACK UP SO WE CAN HAVE A BETTER AUDIT AND BE READY FOR A NATURAL DISASTER OR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS.

I AGREE WITH THE FIRST TWO ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED THOUGH.

IF I REALLY WANT TO SPLIT HAIRS, I'D ALSO SAY THE COLA WOULD HAVE TO ALL GO INTO MARCH.

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I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SO, I COULD SEE THE 330.

UP FRONT AND THEN SAVE THE REST.

AND FOR ME, THE NO NEW REVENUE.

ONE PERSON.

SO, I APPRECIATE THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED IN OUR PACKET TODAY.

WHICH WERE TWO DIFFERENT ORDINANCES, ONE FOR A DE MINIMIS AND ONE FOR A VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH I THINK IS KIND OF INTERESTING BECAUSE THE WAY I ACTUALLY READ THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS IT'S ACTUALLY THE NUMBER THAT YOU CAN GET TO WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE THE VOTERS APPROVE YOUR TAX LEVY TAX INCREASE.

SO, IT'S KIND OF A PLAY ON WORDS THERE.

SO. HERE'S HOW I SIT ON THIS.

I WOULD LIKE IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THE WORLD TO BE WITH JOHN AND GO TO A NO NEW NET REVENUE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ADDED REVENUE WITH THE NEW HOUSES THAT HAVE COME IN.

WE'VE GENERATED.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS, WHAT, AN EXCESS OF $300,000? YES, SIR. SO, IT'S NOT EXACTLY.

WE'RE AT THE EXACT SAME BUDGET WE HAD LAST YEAR.

WE HAD THIS WE HAVE OUR LAST YEAR'S BUDGET PLUS AN ADDITIONAL $300,000.

BUT BECAUSE OF MY UNDERSTANDING AND I'M TRUSTING Y'ALL THAT THESE EXPENSES HAVE INCREASED SO MUCH INFLATIONARY, ESPECIALLY, I GUESS, THE HEALTH INSURANCE, THAT IT EATS UP A LOT OF THAT REVENUE THAT WOULD HAS BEEN SPUN UP OR GENERATED OFF THE OF THE GROWTH IN THE CITY.

THE ADDITIONAL.

TAXES. WHEN I THINK OF DE MINIMIS, THEN READING UP ON THIS AGAIN AS WELL. THE WAY IT, I THINK THE LEGISLATOR INTENDED, ALTHOUGH THEY DID CONCEIVE OF THIS POSSIBILITY, IS THAT THE DE MINIMIS WOULD BE A TAX LEVIED THAT WOULD INCREASE THE CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES LESS THAN 30,000. SO THAT WOULD BE ANGLETON OR LESS THAN 30,000 POPULATION.

AN ADDITIONAL $500,000 IN GENERATED TAX REVENUE.

THE. IDEA IS THAT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WOULD GENERALLY EXCEED THE DE MINIMIS RATE.

THAT'S. HOW I THINK THE LEGISLATIVE INTENDED.

OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE ASTRONOMICAL INCREASES IN PROPERTY VALUES.

WE HAVE THE FLIP OF THAT THIS YEAR.

SO, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH, AND I KNEW IT WASN'T SITTING WELL WITH ME.

THAT SOMEHOW, WE COULD LEVY A TAX ON A DE MINIMIS RATE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY EXCEED THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

AND WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER'S WEBSITE, WE CAN DO THAT.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE WE ARE EXCEEDING THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE BY GOING TO A DE MINIMIS RATE, WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE SUBJECT TO A VOTER APPROVAL.

SO, ALL WE NEED IS ONE PERSON TO WALK IN TOMORROW AND SAY, I WANT A PETITION.

THIS DE MINIMIS RATE, BECAUSE IT EXCEEDS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, AND IT GOES TO THE VOTERS.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL, BUT I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT IF HE GOES TO THE VOTERS, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING APPROVED.

THE VOTERS AREN'T GOING TO VOTE A TAX RAISE ON THEMSELVES.

WE MAY DO IT TO THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT TO THEMSELVES.

AND SO.

BUT IF WE GO TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AGAIN, THAT'S THE RATE AT WHICH WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK THE VOTERS FOR THEIR APPROVAL.

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THAT IS, IN MY OPINION, THE SAFER ROUTE OF THE TWO OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED IN OUR PACKET BETWEEN THE DE MINIMIS AND THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

BECAUSE IF WE I KNOW MR. BOOTH IS COUNCIL MEMBER BOOTH IS ADVOCATED FOR THE DE MINIMIS, BUT THE DE MINIMIS IS THE MOST RISKY AND IT ONLY GENERATES A NOMINAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN.

THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND THE AMOUNT THAT A DE MINIMIS RATE, IT'S NOT WORTH THE RISK.

YOU. OR LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE OF.

SEE, MY MATH IS RIGHT. 27 PLUS, 14, 40,000, 40, 50,000.

LET'S SAY ABOUT $50,000.

45, 50. SO, OUT OF, I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE UP ELSEWHERE, 45,000 TO $50,000 AS OPPOSED TO TAKING IT TO THE VOTERS.

AND YOU'RE RISKING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $200,000.

OKAY. SO.

UH. I.

WOULD LOVE TO STAND WITH JOHN ON THIS BECAUSE WE DID RAISE TAXES LAST YEAR.

AND WE'RE RAISING TAXES AGAIN POTENTIALLY THIS YEAR IN A TIME OF INFLATION.

AND WHO WHO DOESN'T GET A BREAK FROM INFLATION? THE TAXPAYER.

EVERY ONE OF US THAT SITS HERE.

WE'RE NOT IMMUNE FROM INFLATION EITHER.

EVERYBODY IS FACING INFLATION.

SO THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO GO GET THEIR GROCERIES DONE IS PAYING MUCH MORE.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO PAY MORE IN TAXES AS WELL.

SO I'M VERY MINDFUL OF THAT.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I UNDERSTAND THE COST.

SO THERE'S A BALANCING EQUATION GOING IN HERE, THE COST AND THE EXPENSES OF.

RUNNING THE CITY.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION I'M FOR A VOTER APPROVAL RATE OR THE RECOMMENDED BY NOW THE NEW ONE THAT'S BEING GENERATED OR PRESENTED TODAY, WHICH IS JUST LITERALLY FRACTIONALLY LESS THAN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

I'M OKAY WITH WHAT JOHN HAD TO SAY.

LET'S GET THAT POLICE PLUS.

POLICE STEP PLAN IN PLACE WITH THE DISPATCH.

LET'S ADD THE COLA.

FIVE THREE, ONE. LET'S DO IT.

AT THE TIME THAT YOU ADVOCATED, WHICH IS THE 5% ON.

TEN ONE. AND THEN THE REMAINDER TO BE ADDED ON.

I THINK IT'S APRIL 1ST.

I THINK ACTUALLY. YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND SO, AND FOLLOW JOHN'S GUIDANCE IN THAT.

LET'S PUT SOME OF THAT IN THE FUND BALANCE SO WE CAN GET TO AT LEAST THAT 90 DAY.

COMFORT ZONE IN CASE OF EMERGENCY AND ANYTHING LEFT THEREAFTER.

WE COME BACK TO BUDGET AMENDMENTS FOR, SAY, AMMO OR FOR, SAY, WHATEVER PRESSING NEED.

AND I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE EVERYBODY'S GOT NEEDS AND THEY'RE ALL PRESSING.

AND I KNOW THEY DO GREAT THINGS WITH DUCT TAPE AND, YOU KNOW, PAPER CLIPS OVER THERE.

BUT. THAT'S WHERE I'M SITTING.

AND I THINK.

I THINK THE DE MINIMIS FOR WHAT YOU GAIN IS TOO RISKY.

AND I MEAN, I SAY RISKY. I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE YOU SEE IT THE OTHER WAY.

IT'S THE VOTERS. IF THE VOTERS WANT IT, THEY'LL VOTE FOR IT.

AND THAT'S FINE, TOO.

I JUST DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT.

WHAT HAPPENED? SO SAME THING I SAID LAST YEAR.

SO, YOU KNOW.

BUT MAYBE WE'RE NOT SMARTER THAN THE VOTERS.

MAYBE THE VOTERS WILL VOTE.

AND IF THEY THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE OUR BUDGET ON A NO NET REVENUE, THEN WE'LL JUST LIVE WITH WHAT THE VOTERS SAY.

I'M GOING TO SAY I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE SPREADSHEET THAT I'M SEEING HERE TONIGHT.

I MISSED THE WHOLE THE WHOLE MONTH OF AUGUST.

AND I DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR THAT BECAUSE I HAD A GOOD TIME.

BUT BUT.

THE DIFFERENCE OF $40,000.

YOU CAN LOSE THAT IN WATER OVERNIGHT.

SO THAT'S THAT IS MINIMAL.

THAT IS VERY MINIMAL.

WHEN I WAS ADVOCATING FOR A DE MINIMIS, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN THAT.

SO AND IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS ALL, IT'S ALL UPSIDE DOWN.

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WE'RE KIND OF STRAPPED HERE ABOUT WHICH ONE.

IF YOU GO TO A DE MINIMIS, YOU COULD GET IT.

I THINK WE COULD GET IT IN TROUBLE.

AND THAT'S THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS GET THE CITY IN A SUIT OF SOME SORT.

HAVING SAID THAT, THOUGH.

QUALITY OF LIFE IS IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, WE ALL WE ALL LOOK AT QUALITY OF LIFE IN YOUR DAY TO DAY, DAY TO DAY LIFE.

MY, I STAND HERE, AND I'LL SIT HERE, AND I'LL SAY THAT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS IN THIS CITY ARE.

POLICE PROTECTION.

FIRE PROTECTION.

AMBULANCE. WATER AND SEWER.

YOU TAKE AWAY ANY ONE OF THOSE AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? YOU'RE GOING TO BE A REVOLT AND NOTHING AGAINST ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS OR ANY OTHER ASPECTS OF THE CITY.

BUT THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE MAIN FOCUS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE HAVING.

AND. I DON'T LIKE TO IMPOSE MONEY ON.

I DON'T LIKE ANYBODY TO MAKE ME PAY MONEY.

THAT'S NOT ANY FUN.

BUT I LOOK BACK OVER THE YEARS AND THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH CAN KICKING.

OKAY DON'T WANT DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES BUT YOU DON'T AND WE'RE SITTING HERE.

I JUST RAN PAST THE WATER LAKE ON MY WAY TO WORK THIS MORNING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF GALLONS JUST RAN DOWN A DITCH.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE MANY THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.

AND IT'S. I WILL CONTINUE TO CAMPAIGN FOR INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT REPAIR. IT'S GONE BEYOND REPAIR.

IT'S JUST THERE'S WAY PAST THAT AND IT'S SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE THE FUNDS TO DO THIS, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH TAX RATES.

AND. AND PROBABLY.

BOND ELECTIONS TO COME UP WITH SOME MONEY TO HAVE THE VOTERS VOTE ON THIS.

BUT HAVING SAID ALL THAT, I'M OF THE OPINION THAT WE GET SOMEWHERE NEAR THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

AND BECAUSE $40,000 IS NOT THAT BIG A DIFFERENCE.

YEAH, I'M OF THE SAME MIND FOR THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE BELOW IT.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO NO NEW REVENUE, BUT THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH INFLATION AND TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH.

UM. COLAS AND.

COMPETITIVE PAY.

IT'S TAKEN A TOLL ON THE CITY'S RESOURCES, FOR SURE.

AND. YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS DONE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT WHOLE HUGE LIST WORTH OF $300 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S IN REFERENCE TO.

COUNCILMAN BOOTH'S COMMENT ABOUT KICKING THE CAN.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT TO SAY THAT WE'VE DONE NOTHING IS DOING OURSELVES A DISSERVICE AND THE STAFF'S DISSERVICE AS WELL.

BUT NOT TO SAY THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO KEEP THE MOMENTUM.

WE HAVE TO KEEP UP SOMETHING IN RESERVES, ESPECIALLY IF A BIG STORM COMES.

BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO OPEN US UP TO ANY SORT OF.

VOTER APPROVAL OR SOME KIND OF LAWSUIT BY GOING FOR THE DE MINIMIS RATE WHEN IT'S JUST NOT NEEDED.

YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

I'M GOING TO THANK EVERYONE, ALL THE STAFF, FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB IN REDUCING THE BUDGET AND REALLY GOING THROUGH WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB AND GETTING OUR NUMBERS TO WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE.

I WISH WE COULD DO THE NO NEW REVENUE.

WE'RE ALL TAX PAYERS, JUST LIKE EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE.

WE'RE HERE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS WITH THAT MONEY.

ALSO FOR NOT ONLY OUR CITIZENS, BUT ALSO OUR STAFF.

LAST YEAR I VOTED FOR THE RATE THAT WE COULD HAVE A COLA IMPLEMENTED FOR OUR STAFF.

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AND THE LACK OF MOVEMENT WHICH HAS.

RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF LOTS OF GOOD OFFICERS TO COUNTY.

STATE. OTHER CITIES.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET A HOLD ON THAT SO THAT.

LORD FORBID WE HAVE MORE INCIDENCES LIKE WE DID SUNDAY.

WE ARE PREPARED AND HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS TO COVER OUR CITY AND BE SAFE.

RIGHT NOW, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HAVING A GENERATIONAL GAP WITH LONGTIME VOLUNTEERS GOING INTO RETIREMENT.

NEW RECRUITS COMING IN.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN INCENTIVE SO THAT WE HAVE MORE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO IMPLEMENT THAT ALSO.

MS HAS BEEN HIT HARD BY INFLATION AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR MORE FUNDS ALSO.

THEY HAVE YET TO CUT SERVICES AND I'M VERY GLAD THEY DO A LOT OF EXTRA THINGS THAT AREN'T PART OF NORMAL EMS. THEY DO A LOT OF CALLS TO HELP PEOPLE WHEN THEY FALL.

AND SOMETIMES THOSE CALLS TURNS INTO VISITS RATHER THAN JUST HELPING THEM GET OUT OF OFF THE FLOOR AND BACK INTO BED.

MY GRANDPARENTS LIVE IN TOWN.

I DON'T. WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT HELPING.

AND THEN HAVING TO CUT SERVICES.

I'M VERY GLAD THAT YOU INCLUDED A COMPROMISE WITH THE RECOMMENDED UNDER THE VOTER APPROVAL.

THAT'S THE ONE I'M LEANING TOWARDS.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE A SAFETY NET NOT ONLY FOR EMERGENCIES BUT FOR EMERGENCY INFRASTRUCTURE, SINCE WE ARE NOW LOW OR OUT OF THE ARPA FUNDS.

IT WAS 750 FOOT OF MAIN LINE SEWER THAT COSTS 250 GRAND.

AND WE HAVE MANY, MANY MORE FEET OF IT THAT JUST WAITING TO BECOME A PROBLEM.

OH. WELL, I GUESS I'M ALSO IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO DO THE NO NEW REVENUE, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED MONEY TO HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THE PROGRESS I THINK THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING AND ALSO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS PUT IN.

I THINK ANGLETON HAS BEEN MOVING FORWARD.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE THAT WE'VE SEEN.

BUT AS FAR AS MY RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE BUDGET, I WOULD GO WITH WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING RIGHT BELOW THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND NOT THE DIMINISHED RATE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY I AGREE WITH THE FIRST TWO SELECTIONS ON THE POLICE STEP FACE PLANT BASIS AND THE COLA. BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THE ADA TRANSACTION TRANSITION PLAN IF THAT IS A COMPLIANCE PLAN.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE MAYBE THAT WE IF IT IS A COMPLIANCE PLAN AND WE HAVE TO DO IT NEXT YEAR, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT GET IN IF POSSIBLE.

SO. SO I WILL TELL YOU.

I'M SORRY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE JOE MORROW THE NEXT MEETING AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BONDING AND FUTURE PROJECTS.

AND SO THAT THAT'S THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ALSO.

TAKE, IT INCLUDED. OKAY.

[INAUDIBLE]. WHICH ON THE SECOND ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

622,000 VERSUS 436.

IS THAT WHAT YOU GOT? YES, SIR.

OKAY. I HEAR A LOT.

I'M LISTENING. CERTAIN THINGS, THOUGH, THAT I'VE SAT HERE BEFORE AND I SAID, BUT I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK IT BEARS REPEATING.

WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE PROJECTS WE WANT TO DO.

I HEARD EVERYBODY SAY INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE ALSO SAT HERE LAST WEEK ON TUESDAY AND RAISED THE WATER RATES BECAUSE THE WATER RATES ARE WHAT FUNDS THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS EXCEPT FOR THE ROADS.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SEWER LINES, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WATER LINES, THAT ALL COMES FROM THE WATER FUND.

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THIS IS PROPERTY TAX.

THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ALL SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO.

THE OTHER THING IS THE NO NEW REVENUE IS STILL GENERATING 436,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

SO WE'RE TAKING 330,000 OUT FOR THE POLICE DEP, FOR THE COLAS AND FOR THE DISPATCHERS.

AND I'VE SAT HERE AND SAID, I'M AGREEING WITH THAT.

I'M ALSO SAYING 130, 106,000 CAN SIT THERE IN THE THE FUND BALANCE.

AND UNLESS WE NEED IT.

SO YOU STILL HAVE $106,000 LEFT OVER, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON SOMETHING HAPPENS AND YOU NEED TO FUND ONE OF THESE PROJECTS.

ADA, YOU WANT TO DO SOME OF THE PARKS ISSUES, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THINGS.

INCENTIVE PROGRAM.

THERE'S THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENCES WE'RE TALKING HERE.

THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN PHIL SHOWED YOU WHAT THE TAX RATES ARE GOING TO DO TO AN INDIVIDUAL, HE DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR IN THE APPRAISAL VALUES.

SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE FACING 75% TO 100% INCREASE IN THEIR PROPERTY TAX APPRAISALS.

BY LOWERING THE TAX RATE, YOU'RE STILL, IN EFFECT RAISING TAXES AND NOT TO A SMALL EXTENT, IT CAN BE LARGE DEPENDING ON WHAT EXEMPTIONS THEY HAVE. SO, I MEAN, WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE SITTING THERE TALKING ABOUT BEING TAXED OUT OF THEIR HOMES, EVERYONE THAT SITS ON THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO GET THAT QUESTION.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND FACE YOU FACE TO FACE AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WHY ARE YOU RAISING MY TAXES? WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT MONEY? THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, I DON'T NEED A NEW PARK.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GOING TO SAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, I DON'T NEED BEAUTIFICATION IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I NEED MY WATER TO RUN.

I NEED POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION.

AND I NEED A STREET THAT I CAN DRIVE DOWN AND DRAINAGE.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I GET THE MOST.

AND I KNOW WE KIND OF WE TAKE IT WE'RE ALL PROPERTY TAXPAYERS AS WELL.

BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HURTING OUT THERE.

AND SO, WHEN I VOTED LAST WEEK TO RAISE WATER RATES, I DID IT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE WERE DOING IT, TO FIX THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT I ALSO WAS MINDFUL THAT I WASN'T GOING TO RAISE THE TAX RATE ON THE PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE THEY ALREADY GOT THEIR APPRAISALS AND THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN TAXED OUT ALREADY.

SO THE OTHER POINT IS THE NO RATE.

IS NOT TO FUND CAPITAL PROJECTS.

THAT IS FROM THE INSIDE.

AND THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN VERY VOCAL FROM THE VERY START THAT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO ISSUE MORE DEBT TO KEEP THE INS RATE AT AROUND TEN, $0.10 ON THE DOLLAR OR $0.10, BECAUSE IT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR BANG FOR THE BUCK ON CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND THE WATER FUND ITSELF IS GOING TO HAVE ITS OWN DEBT SERVICE.

SO FIXING WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES, LIFT STATIONS, ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED FROM RAISING THE WATER RATE AND BEING ABLE TO GO FOR DEBT, MORE DEBT SERVICE THERE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN JOE COMING TO US TO TELL US WHAT OUR BONDING CAPACITY IS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY GOING TO SEE THE BIG ITEMS FALL OFF. SO I HEAR EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO NEW REVENUE.

I UNDERSTAND YOU ALL ARE GOING TO VOTE JUST UNDER THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT POINT IS MADE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT.

SO YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT ON ON THE WATER, ON THE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, FEE.

UM, THEN WE NEED TO START TAKING ACTION AND THAT NEEDS TO START TAKING PLACE NOW BECAUSE I KNOW THE PLANNING PROCESS TAKES TIME AND THE IMPLEMENTATION TAKES TIME. AND SO WHAT? START HAVING THOSE PROJECTS PRESENTED TO US.

LET'S START ACTING WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE IN ALREADY RECEIVED.

AND IN THE NEXT YEAR, LET'S START CREATING A BUDGET AND A LIST OF ITEMS. AND IT'S THERE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET IT DONE.

AND THEN IT ANSWERS ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS, RIGHT? SO THEN IF PEOPLE SAY TO YOU, OKAY, SO WHAT'S BEING DONE WITH THIS? WELL, LET'S TELL THEM.

LET'S TELL THEM WE HAVE A PLAN AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED NOT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, NOT EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW.

IN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS BECAUSE AGAIN, I KNOW THE PROCESS TAKES A LITTLE BIT.

I'M NOT PRETENDING LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SNAP OUR FINGERS AND TOMORROW MORNING WE'RE HAPPY IT'S HAPPENING.

THAT'S NOT UNREALISTIC.

SO, LET'S DO THAT.

I'M WITH YOU ON THE M&O.

THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE TO ME.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MEETING.

AND WE'LL GET THERE.

YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE SOME AGREEMENT.

SOME. SOME, SOME.

FUTURE STEPS TO CONTINUE.

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I THINK MARK USED THE WORD MOMENTUM.

MOMENTUM IS PROBABLY A BETTER WORD.

I LIKE I LIKE THE WORD MOMENTUM.

THINGS MOVING. I ALSO AGREE WITH AND IT SOUNDS VERY LIKE A POLITICIAN, RIGHT? YOU PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK LIKE, OH, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE PROJECTS WE'VE DONE COMPLETED AND ARE IN PLAN, BUT THAT IS THE REALITY.

THERE HAS NOW GRANTED IT'S BEEN USING FEDERAL FUNDS, BUT WE WERE VERY GOOD STEWARDS, I THINK, WITH THAT FEDERAL MONEY AND WE DRESSED A LOT OF ISSUES AND WE CROSSED MANY AVENUES OF OUR CITY.

AND I DON'T MEAN JUST ROADS, AVENUES, I MEAN DIFFERENT DIFFERENT PLACES HOW WE COULD, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S AGAIN START PREPARING TO TAKE THOSE NEXT STEPS.

WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT SOME ROAD PROJECTS WE HAVE AND WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS THERE.

LET'S JUST LET'S JUST KEEP GOING WITH THAT.

AND SO I'M ASKING THIS IS TO CITY HALL, TO Y'ALL TO START FEEDING THESE THESE PROJECTS WITH THESE THINGS IN MIND.

AND LET'S START.

TAKING THOSE STEPS, OR AT LEAST IN THE PLANNING PROCESS SO WE CAN COME TO SOME SORT OF CONSENSUS ON WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS AND WHAT WORKING WITH YOU ALL, WHAT YOU ALL THINK THE NEXT STEP IS, AND WHAT WE THINK IS COUNCIL, THE MORE PRUDENT DECISION.

SO YES, SO YOU WILL SEE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK WE'RE GOING TO DO A WHOLE YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHY THE RATES WENT UP IN WATER AND SEWER 14%. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO RE EXPLAIN THE BWR PIECE.

THAT'S 90% OF OUR WATER AND WE'RE ON 10% OF WELLS.

AND JUST LIKE YOU ARTICULATED, WE WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE WE INCREASE THE RATES BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU ALL WILL GET THE CALLS.

BUT WE WANT TO INFORM THE PUBLIC AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT WIMBERLEY TWO-INCH WATER LINE THAT'S CLOGGED.

WE GOT ROCK ISLAND, TWO-INCH WATER LINE THAT'S CLOGGED.

WE GOT SEBESTA ROAD THAT'S HAD 15 WATER LEAKS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, WATER LINE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. SO, WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING THOSE AND THOSE ARE GETTING ENGINEERED WITH HDR.

AND SO, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

AND THEN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OVERLAYS.

YOU ALL JUST APPROVE THIS YEAR'S OVERLAYS.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LAST YEAR'S OVERLAYS, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S OVERLAYS.

SO AGAIN, THE PUBLIC CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE ACTIONS THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING AND WHERE AND WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING.

AND WE CAN ALL AGREE TO DISAGREE THAT IT'S NOT THE RIGHT ROAD OR THE RIGHT WATER LINE OR SOMETHING.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO TELL WHAT BUT WE'RE NOT DOING NOTHING.

WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT SITTING IDLE.

THANK YOU. WE'VE HAD TO PLAY CATCH UP LONG ENOUGH.

WE GOT TO GET IT DONE. I ADVOCATED SINCE I GOT ON HERE THAT MY MAIN THING HAS BEEN INFRASTRUCTURE.

HOW HAVE YOU FUNDED? JUST IT NEEDS TO GET DONE.

TALKING ABOUT IT DOESN'T GET IT DONE, BUT I HOPE WE PUT SOME PUT SOME PROJECTS TOGETHER PLEASE AND LET'S LET'S.

LET'S GET A PATH FORWARD.

AND. DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOW WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT TO.

BECAUSE I JUST I HATE SEE THE WATER JUST RUNNING DOWN THE STREET.

AND IT'S NOBODY'S YOU GOT TO PAY FOR IT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO DRINK IT.

YOU KNOW. THEN WE'RE.

TREATING WATER THAT FALL FROM THE SKY THAT GOES THROUGH THE SEWER LINES.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT EITHER.

I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT ON STREETS.

OVERLAYS ARE GOOD PERMANENT FIXES LIKE WE'VE DONE ON RICHMOND, SAN FELIPE, SOUTHSIDE DRIVE.

THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU CAN DO IT AND THEY'RE DONE FOR 50 YEARS.

OKAY. IF NOT LONGER OR LONGER.

ENCOURAGED. WHAT IS IT? ERSKINE? WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE? PARISH. PARISH. PARISH.

EXCITED FOR THAT.

SO. I MEAN, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT'S.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR PASSIONATE PLEA, JOHN.

AND WE LISTEN, I'M NOT NOBODY'S JUST, YOU KNOW, DISREGARDING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ON THE OTHER.

IT'S A TOUGH CALL.

I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST, I LOST A LOT OF SLEEP TWO NIGHTS AGO.

IT WAS TOSSING BACK AND FORTH AND COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, BUT I NEEDED TO MAKE UP MY MIND.

AND THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING.

BUT IT'S NOT EASY.

IT WASN'T. I MEAN, I ECHO WHAT MR.

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SO WE HAVE I THINK IT'S ON ONE OF YOUR CHARTS, PHIL, THE PROPOSED TAX RATE BELOW THE VOTER APPROVED RATE.

YOU READ IT RIGHT HERE.

WHAT PERCENT INCREASE IS THAT? YOU? I WANT TO.

YEAH. THAT'S THE TAX RATE.

WHAT'S ITS EFFECTIVE PERCENTAGE INCREASE? 2.9. 2.00? HOW FAR OUT DO YOU HAVE TO GO? THREE DECIMALS. OKAY, SO, PHIL, I AM ACTUALLY ONE.

THAT'S TREMENDOUS. THIS IS THE ESTIMATE.

I KNEW THAT WE.

PROPOSE OR ADOPT THE TAX RATE OF.

0.52301, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A.

0.028. EXCUSE ME.

0.0208% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.

EXCUSE ME. WE NEED TO ADOPT THE BUDGET FIRST AND THEN THE TAX RATE.

OKAY. SO THEN I WOULD SAY YOU.

WE ADOPT THE BUDGET.

BUT WHAT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN THE JUST AGENDA.

THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE 2023-0919001.

ADOPTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS.

ECHO THAT. I HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.

SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THIS IS A ROLL CALL, SO LET ME GET TO THE AGENDA.

MAKE SURE THAT MAKE SURE THAT'S THE RIGHT ONE.

WE VOTE ON IT. THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME.

YES, BUT I THINK THERE'S TWO THERE'S TWO BUDGETS PROPOSED.

WE SUBMITTED. WE GAVE YOU THE SAME NUMBER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE.

RIGHT? IS THAT WHY YOU PROVIDED BOTH? YEAH, I PROVIDED BOTH.

THIS ORDINANCE IS THE SAME.

SO THE ORDINANCE NUMBER IS CLEAR.

THE. THE ORDINANCE NUMBER WILL BE THE SAME.

JUST WHICH, WHICHEVER ONE YOU CHOOSE FOR THE VOTER APPROVAL, I THINK IS THE RECOMMENDED RATE.

RECOMMENDED RATE. RECOMMENDED RATE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERENCING, WHICH JUST A FRACTIONALLY BELOW THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WITH THAT RECOMMENDED RATE.

WHAT THE BUDGET NUMBER WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT A BUDGET NUMBER.

WE PUT THE NUMBER IN THERE, WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT THE NUMBER.

IT WOULD BE THE THE WAY THAT I PRESENTED THE BUDGET WAS THAT I USED THE TOTAL REVENUE SO THAT YOU COULD MAKE THE CHOICE TONIGHT TO DO DIFFERENT PACKAGES OR PUT MONEY IN FUND BALANCE.

RIGHT? THE DIFFERENCE GOES TO FUND BALANCE.

SO, WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET IN EITHER ORDINANCE? LET ME SEE THAT. READ THE ORDINANCES AGAIN.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE MINIMIS.

THE SECOND ONE IS VOTER APPROVAL.

THE AMOUNTS WOULD BE THE SAME.

YEAH, THE AMOUNTS ARE THE SAME.

OKAY. OKAY, SO THAT'S CLEAR AS MUD.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. GOOD. BACK UP REAL QUICK.

YEAH. IN THIS BUDGET, DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE.

THE STEP PLAN FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE 531.

IT IS, YES.

OKAY. I WANT THAT.

I'M SURE THAT'S PART OF THE. YOU AMENDING YOUR MOTION? I AM AMENDING MY MOTION.

SECOND. SECOND.

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THAT'S TERRIBLE.

I TRANSLATED FOR HER, SO SHE'S SUPER OLD, MAN.

IT'S COOL. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US BEFORE I CALL FOR THE VOTE? NOPE. OKAY.

ROLL CALL. IT'S A ROLL CALL.

I'M GOING TO GO. BOTTOMS UP.

TERRY ROBERTS FOR MARK GONGORA.

FOR CHRISTINE.

DANIEL FOR CECIL BOOTH.

FOR TRAVIS TOWNSEND FOR MAYOR AGAINST.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES.

NOW WOULD BE THE VOTE ON THE TAX RATE.

YEP. ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSS SOME POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-0919002.

[2. Discuss and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230919-002 levying the Ad Valorem Property Tax of the City of Angleton, Texas for the year of 2023 on all taxable property within the corporate limits of the city on January 1, 2023, and adopting a tax rate for 2023; providing revenues for payment of current municipal maintenance and operating expenses and for payment of interest and principal on outstanding city of Angleton debt; providing for limited exemptions of certain homesteads; providing for enforcement of collections; providing for a severability clause; and providing an effective date.]

IS THAT RIGHT? 24.

24. ALL OF THESE SAY 2023 SHOULD BE 24.

FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. RIGHT? 23-24. FISCAL YEAR 2023-24.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH. WHAT'S POSTED ONLINE IN HERE? IT'S 2023, PROVIDING REVENUES FOR PAYMENT OF CURRENT MUNICIPAL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING EXPENSES AND FOR PAYMENT OF INTEREST AND PRINCIPAL ON OUTSTANDING CITY OF ANGLETON DEBT, PROVIDING FOR LIMITED EXEMPTIONS OF CERTAIN HOMESTEADS, PROVIDING FOR AN ENFORCEMENT OF COLLECTION, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

SO TO FOLLOW THAT PREVIOUS MOTION, I MOVE THAT WE PROVIDE A PROPERTY TAX RATE INCREASE.

WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE OF 0.52301, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 2.09% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, IT'S I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A TAX INCREASE.

I MEAN, THANK YOU, JOHN.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, NO, I KNOW WHAT IT'S.

I UNDERSTAND. OKAY.

SO BUT REMEMBER, JUST YOU ALL PROVIDED SOME TAX RELIEF IN THE FORM OF HOMESTEAD.

I KNOW. 65.

RIGHT. BUT STRIKING, STRIKING A BALANCE.

IT'S TOUGH. WHEN YOU HAVE OVER 100% INCREASE IN PROPERTY APPRAISALS, IN SOME CASES IT'S STILL NOT THERE. ALL RIGHT.

TERRY ROBERTS FOR MARC GONGORA.

FOR CHRISTINE DANIEL FOR CECIL BOOTH, FOR TRAVIS TOWNSEND FOR MYSELF AGAINST MOTION PASSES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-0919003.

[3. Discussion and possible action on Ordinance No. 20230919-003 ratifying the increase in property tax revenues over last year’s operating budget as reflected in the FY 2023-2024 operating budget.]

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20230919-003, RATIFYING THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.

THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER $759,041 IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUES IN THE 2022-2023 BUDGET OVER LAST YEAR'S OPERATING BUDGET. AS A RESULT OF THE CITY RECEIVING MORE REVENUES FROM PROPERTY TAXES IN THE 2023 2024 BUDGET AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. SECOND, A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DANIEL.

THIS IS NOT A ROLL CALL.

THERE YOU GO. SO WHAT NUMBER DID YOU SAY? THAT'S 003.

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I READ IT OFF THE BOOKS HERE.

YEAH. YEAH. WHATEVER THE RIGHT NUMBER IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

717 SEVEN, SEVEN.

SO, IT'S 759,717 SO THEY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ORDINANCES.

SO, THE SECOND ONE HAS THE 717,303.

PAGE 20. NO, BUT THE FIRST ONE.

DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION? AMEND MY MOTION TO BE THE INCREASE OF $717,303.

SECOND. I HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION AND AMENDED SECOND.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

AND THAT LEADS US TO ADJOURNMENT.

SO, WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN AT 6:56.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.