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WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TO ORDER.I'LL ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.
COUNCILWOMAN. DANIEL, CAN YOU LEAD US IN PLEDGE? WE PRAY. WOULD BE PLEASED.
LORD GOD AGAIN, WE THANK YOU THAT WE CAN CALL ON YOU AT ANY TIME.
YOU STAND READY, FATHER, READY TO HELP US.
LORD, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR US.
HOW YOU GAVE US A LITTLE BIT OF RAIN AND YOU COOL THE WEATHER OFF A LITTLE BIT.
AND AGAIN, GIVE US YOUR GUIDANCE.
WE LOVE YOU AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE.
YOU MAY BE SEATED. MICHELLE, DO WE HAVE ANY SLIPS? OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS, ITEM NUMBER ONE PRESENTATION OF THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN TEXAS PROCLAMATION AND ITEM NUMBER TWO CEREMONIAL
[1. Presentation of the National Night Out in Texas Proclamation.]
[2. Ceremonial Presentation of September 2023 Keep Angleton Beautiful Yard of the Month and Business of the Month.]
PRESENTATION OF THE SEPTEMBER 2023 KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL YARD OF THE MONTH AND BUSINESS OF THE MONTH COUNCIL.CAN YOU PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT? WE'VE HAD THEM HANDLE ON ORDERS PRESENTED.
CHRIS, IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE CITY THAT WANTS TO STAND UP HERE WITH ME? SO WE'VE GOT TWO OUTSTANDING OFFICERS OVER HERE.
THANK YOU. AND IT'S NOT LOOPY, SO WE DEFINITELY KNOW THEY'LL GET THE.
OH, HE'S WATCHING. YEAH, BUT HE'S NOT GETTING HIS PICTURE TAKEN, SO.
ALL RIGHT, BROTHER LONG. OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, STEVE ANGLETON, TEXAS PROCLAMATION.
AND. WHEREAS, THE 40TH ANNUAL NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROVIDES A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANGLETON TO JOIN FORCES WITH THOUSANDS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION AND STATE IN PROMOTING COOPERATIVE POLICE COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS.
AND. WHEREAS, ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES A VITAL ROLE IN ASSISTING BRAZORIA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE THROUGH JOINT CRIME AND DRUG AND VIOLENCE PREVENTION EFFORTS IN ANGLETON AND IS SUPPORTING NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN 2023 LOCALLY.
AND. WHEREAS, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT ALL CITIZENS OF ANGLETON BE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND THE IMPACT THAT THEIR PARTICIPATION CAN HAVE ON REDUCING CRIME, DRUGS AND VIOLENCE IN ANGLETON.
AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF ANGLETON ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO COME TOGETHER AND MEET AND GREET LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS AT BLOCK PARTIES ACROSS ANGLETON TO BUILD A PARTNERSHIP FOR THE ENRICHMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
NOW, THEREFORE, I JOHN WRIGHT MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 3RD, 2023, AS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN TEXAS.
PROCLAIM THIS 26TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2023.
THANK YOU. I GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE.
THAT'S A LOOPY ISM, RIGHT? HE'S STEALTHIER THAN ME.
THAT'S BECAUSE HE ALWAYS VOLUNTEERS TO HOLD THE CAMERA.
I'M NOT BEING NICE, BUT THIS IS KERRY, THE MANAGER OF ANGLETON FEED STORE.
SO THEY'VE DONE SOME RED, WHITE AND BLUE.
THEY WERE SO EXCITED WHEN WE CAME IN AND GAVE HIM THE AWARD.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING THIS EVENING, SO.
I'M SORRY. SO THEY HAVE THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL CITIZENS OF ANGLETON AND KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL.
THANK YOU. SO Y'ALL GO UP THERE, PLEASE.
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DON'T START. I'M GOING TO BORROW THAT HAT.THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
OKAY. BRIAN AND DANNY HILLIARD COME UP HERE, PLEASE.
I LOVE IT WHEN WE GET A NOMINATION.
THANK GOODNESS FOR DOORBELL RINGS BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS BACK, BUT.
DANIEL, YOU'RE THERE. BEAUTIFUL HOME IS ON BLUE BONNET.
AND THEY WERE BOTH ANGLETON WENT TO SCHOOL HERE.
BORN IN FREEPORT, RIGHT? YOU CAME IN SIXTH. SIXTH GRADE.
PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
PLEASE HANG TIGHT WITH US.WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:07 P.M.
FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON PERSONNEL MATTERS TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE PURSUANT TO SECTION 551 .074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, APPOINTMENTS, RE APPOINTMENTS AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
POSITION NUMBER FIVE ANGLETON MUNICIPAL COURT, PRESIDING JUDGE AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION 551 .087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE COMING BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:33 P.M..
[OPEN SESSION]
COUNCIL. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTIONS? YES. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REAPPOINT JUDGE GILBERT AND OFFER A 3% PAY RAISE.SECOND. SECOND? YEAH. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
TEXAS, TO DEFINE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP AND PREPARATION FOR NECESSARY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO HURRICANE AND TROPICAL STORM WEATHER DISASTERS.AND ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20230926-006.
COUNCIL. MOVE TO ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DANIEL FOR APPROVAL OF CONSENT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS ITEM SIX THE APPOINTEES AT THIS POINT OR WHEN DO WE DO THAT IF WE WANT TO, WE GOT TO PULL IT.
HOW DO I KNOW? AND IT SAYS HISTORICALLY THE MAYOR OR MAYOR PRO TEM.
SO IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT, WE CAN BRING THAT OFF.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE MY PLACE, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.
NO, YOU WERE YOU WERE ELECTED IN.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH WHAT WE GOT.
UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHANGE IT.
CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
[7. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20230926-007 amending Chapter 13, Miscellaneous Offenses, Article I. of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Angleton; providing noise and sound level regulations; repealing Section 13-9, use of amplifying devices, clause; repealing Section 13-12, silly string, stinkbombs, smokebombs, poppers or noisemakers, clause; providing for severability; providing for repeal; providing for a penalty, and providing an effective date.]
AMENDING CHAPTER 13 MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES.[00:10:02]
ARTICLE ONE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON PROVIDING NOISE AND SOUND LEVEL REGULATIONS REPEALING SECTION 13 DASH NINE USE OF AMPLIFYING DEVICES CLAUSE REPEALING SECTION 1312 SILLY STRING STINK BOMBS, SMOKE BOMBS, POPPERS AND NOISEMAKERS CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL, PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.DO I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION. SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIELS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU'RE AT.
MR. STROM, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE.
YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE ME. 76 YEAR OLD MAN WHO JUST GOT OFF THE GOLF COURSE.
RUB IT IN. STATE OF TEXAS HAS A LAW THAT.
A PERSON MAY NOT USE A MUFFLER, CUT OUT BYPASS OR SIMILAR DEVICE ON A MOTOR VEHICLE.
IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ENFORCEMENT.
WHEN ONE TAKES ONE'S VEHICLE TO AN INSPECTION STATION.
THERE ARE GUIDELINES AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT BOTH THE INSPECTOR HAS TO DO AND THE CAR OWNER.
UM, I HAVE A FOUR YEAR OLD GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER WHO LIVES WITH ME.
I TAKE THAT CHILD OUT ON WEST BRONCO BEN ON HER BICYCLE.
WOMEN. EXCUSE ME. NONE OF THE GUYS.
NONE OF THE CARS THAT ARE DOING BYPASSES.
OKAY, LADIES. AND THEY'RE NOT YOUNG MEN.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL BOYS BEING BOYS.
SHE'S ON HER LITTLE BICYCLE, PUTS HER HANDS ON HER EARS.
WHAT I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IN THIS PARTICULAR ORDER.
JUST TO FIND AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.
TAKE THOSE CARS AND VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD OR MAKE THEM SAFER.
CITIES LIKE SHREVEPORT ARE CONSIDERING THIS TYPE OF.
ORDINANCE. THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS ACTUALLY HAVE A $500 FINE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE EXCESSIVE.
I KNOW LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT DECIBEL LEVELS.
I THINK WE'RE ON THE LOW RANGE LAST TIME AND MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THOSE UP.
BUT AS A HOMEOWNER PERSON WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR 47 YEARS, I REMEMBER WHEN THIS TOWN WAS QUIET.
YOU GUYS ARE MY REPRESENTATIVES.
YOU WANT THE CITY TO GROW? YOU WANT IT TO BE A CIVIL SOCIETY.
I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THOSE TYPES OF STEPS.
THAT WE CAN TAKE TO MAKE THIS A LIVABLE CITY AS OPPOSED TO A FREEWAY FROM HOUSTON.
THEIR FREE FORM. I'M NOT ASKING YOU CAUSE HE STOPPED.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR.
THANK YOU, MR. STROM. THANK YOU, MR..
COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL.
CHRIS, DO YOU WANT TO OR WHO'S BEEN SPEARHEADING THIS? ATTORNEY OR STAFF.
ACTUALLY, SCOTT, YOU CAN TALK TO THIS.
YES. I WAS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WROTE THE ORDINANCE.
OKAY. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR OLD ORDINANCE TO THIS ONE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF, YOU KNOW, FIRECRACKERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHEN IT COMES TO DECIBEL LEVELS, DID YOU MAKE ANY CHANGES? WELL, THERE WAS NOT.
I BELIEVE THE PRIOR ORDINANCES DID NOT ADDRESS DECIBEL LEVELS SPECIFICALLY.
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SO THIS WAS A ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC DECIBEL LEVELS, REACHING A LIMIT ON THE LEVEL OF SOUND THAT WOULD BE AUTHORIZED IN THE CITY.AND THEN ADDRESSING OF THE NOISY VEHICLES.
YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE FOR A SECOND? WELL, THAT WAS ADDRESSED THROUGH ITEM NUMBER 13, 205 205.
DOES IT HAVE PROVIDES? IT PROVIDES THE SAME DECIBEL LEVEL FOR MOTOR VEHICLES.
MOTOR VEHICLES. MAKING A NOISE ABOVE THAT 85DB IS PROHIBITED, EXCEPT AS IN CERTAIN AUTHORIZED PORTIONS UNDER 1310.
I BELIEVE. WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT FOR CERTAIN VEHICLES TO HAVE THE NOISE OVER 85DB. DOES IT PROVIDE FOR A PENALTY? AS WAS DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC HEARING.
ROLLING BACK INTO PENALTIES THAT ARE PROVIDED UNDER ORDINANCE ONE DASH 14.
OKAY. DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? ANY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
AFTER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY WANT TO ADDRESS NOTHING TO SAY.
WE CHASED THIS BEFORE AND COME ON UP THE DECIBEL NOISE.
YES. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU COME TO THE PODIUM.
DON'T WORRY. WE USUALLY MAKE CHIEF GET UP TO.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR DIFFERENT SCALE RANGES AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT NOISES THAT CARRY FURTHER, LIKE ON LIKE YOU FEEL THE BASS VERSUS HEARING THE BASS.
IF. EVEN WITH THE NO BREAK SIGNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THEY STILL MAKE MAKES A LOT OF MAKES A LOT OF NOISE AND THEY DO CARE. I DON'T I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT.
WHEN YOU DRAFTED THIS, DID YOU FOLLOW ANY PATTERNS FROM OTHER CITIES? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER THERE WERE OTHER CITIES THAT I CAN I CANNOT TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT WAS MIGHT HAVE BEEN PATTERNED, BUT IT IS ALSO PATTERNED OFF GENERAL TEXAS STATUTE.
ESSENTIALLY, THE GOVERNMENT CODE 217 DOES ALLOW THE CITY TO IDENTIFY THEIR OWN WHAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND NOISE WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
85 IS GENERALLY THE A STANDARD THAT HAS IT BEEN LITIGATED? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.
HAS ANYBODY EVER OBJECTED TO CONSTITUTIONALITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THAT WOULD BE PERHAPS SENT TO THE.
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF THERE IS, I'M NOT CURRENTLY AWARE OF IT.
BUT WITH THESE OTHER CITIES AND THIS STANDARD THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY SORT OF NEGATIVE LITIGATION? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, NO.
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OKAY. COUNCIL SMELLS LIKE ENGINE NOISE.IS THIS ORDINANCE ADDRESSES PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY MODIFY THEIR EXHAUST SYSTEM TO CAUSE IT TO BE LOUDER. WE GOT 18 WHEELERS COMING INTO THE TOWN.
THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO BE NOISY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY TAKE OFF FROM A STOP SIGN OR STOPLIGHT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THEIR JUST INHERENT SOUND. AND IF THEY COME INTO TOWN DOWNSHIFTING WITHOUT HITTING OR HITTING THEIR BRAKES.
THAT'S WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT, CHRIS? SO SO IF I SEE SIGNS PROHIBITING THAT GOING INTO LOTS OF TOWNS.
I'M FOR ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP GIVE OUR CITIZENS MORE PEACE OF MIND WHEN TRYING TO REST IN THEIR HOMES OR ENJOY THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. I'VE HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT VARIOUS NOISE COMPLAINTS RANGING FROM TRAFFIC NOISE TO NEIGHBORS TO PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN WITH LOUD MUSIC.
AFTER SPEAKING WITH CHIEF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE A BURDEN ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HE DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE WOULD BE HE DID THINK THAT IT WOULD BE HARD TO ENFORCE SOME OF THESE NOISE THINGS, BUT HE DOESN'T THINK THAT IT WILL BECOME A BURDEN OR DISTRACT THEM OR PULL THEM AWAY FROM OTHER AREAS THAT NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON TO KEEP US SAFE.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND THIS IS FOR CITY ATTORNEY CHRIS MARTHA.
OUR USE OF OUTDOOR SOUND AMPLIFICATION SHALL NOT BE.
WE SHALL NOT ISSUE FOR THE SAME LOCATION MORE THAN TWICE DURING A 30 DAY PERIOD.
WHAT DOES THAT DO TO CONCERT IN THE PARK? DO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S IN HERE AS A WAIVER? WELL, THAT SHOULD BE THAT WOULD PRESUMABLY BE A PERMITTED.
YES, BUT IT SAYS IT CAN'T HAVE A PERMANENT MORE THAN TWICE IN ONE IN A 30 DAY PERIOD.
SO IF YOU PERMIT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT MORE THAN TWICE IN A 30 DAY PERIOD.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THAT IT SAYS IT'S VALID BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8 A.M.
AND I DEFINITELY HEARD ABOUT IT AND.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS, WE'VE GOT TO FOLLOW THE SAME.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH OUR OWN ORDINANCE REGARDING TO CONCERT IN THE PARK.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD PUT A MAXIMUM VOLUME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL OF THEM AND SOME OF THEM ARE WAY TOO LOUD.
NOT JUST ME, BUT PEOPLE THAT SIT AROUND ME.
THEY CAN'T EVEN TALK TO THEIR PEOPLE SITTING NEXT TO THEM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARY.
WELL, I THINK THEY HAVE TONED IT DOWN SOMEWHAT.
I MEAN, THIS THIS LAST SERIES, THEY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
I MEAN, YOU COULD HEAR THEM ALL THE WAY ON MY STREET.
SO IT HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER.
I THINK THE CITY CAN DICTATE THAT.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT CLAUSE IN THERE FOR.
DOES IT COUNT FOR SECTION 13 DASH 208, WHERE IT SAYS IF IT'S SPONSORED OR CO-SPONSORED OR PERMITTED BY THE CITY AS A DEFENSE? IT'S GOT WHERE IT'S COVERED.
THE ANSWER ON THAT. WELL, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED BY THE CITY.
SORRY. EXCUSE ME. 13 TO 10 WOULD STILL APPLY FOR WHAT CAN BE PERMITTED BY THE CITY.
OKAY. QUICK QUESTION TO CHIEF.
HOW MANY REGULAR CALLS OF NOISE OR DISTURBANCE TYPE QUESTIONS DO YOU ALL RECEIVE ON A, SAY, A WEEKLY OR MONTHLY WHATEVER IS EASIEST ON JUST LOUD NOISES? YES. GUESS OFFHAND, PROBABLY TEN, 15.
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I MEAN, IT COULD VARY.I MEAN, LIKE WE'RE FIXING TO GET INTO FAIR TIME, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH, RIGHT? IT'S I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S SEASONAL, BUT IT IS DEPENDS ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY.
YEAH, REALLY? AND SOME OF THEM ARE UNFOUNDED.
SO YOU FOLLOW THE SAME BELIEF THAT IF YOU WERE HAD OFFICERS RESPONDING 2 TO 3 TIMES A DAY TO A NOISE ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY DEAL WITH OTHER ISSUES IN THE CITY.
WE'LL DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO, SIR.
I KNOW DOING YOUR BEST YOU CAN WITH WHAT YOU GOT.
YOU KNOW, NOT WORRIED ABOUT BEING SPREAD TOO THIN ON THAT.
IT ACTUALLY HELPED IF WE HAD A HAD A LINE TO FOLLOW.
BUT WHAT ARE WE WHAT BOTHERS SOME DOESN'T BOTHER OTHERS.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE VERY SUBJECTIVE PUTS US IN THAT THAT POSITION.
THERE'S A STRAIGHT LINE THAT WE FOLLOW.
IT'S EITHER THEY BROKE THE LAW OR THEY DID NOT.
SO DO WE CURRENTLY GIVE THEM A WARNING? AND THEN IF THEY GET CALLED AGAIN, Y'ALL ISSUE A TICKET AT THAT TIME.
IF WE'RE DEALING WITH SOMEBODY THAT HAS HAD MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE WARNINGS, OKAY, THEY JUST REFUSE TO BE KIND, THEN THEY'LL BE ISSUED A CITATION.
MOST OF THESE ARE PRETTY MUCH NEIGHBOR VERSUS NEIGHBOR, THOUGH, RIGHT? RIGHT. PRETTY MUCH, YEAH.
WELL, COUNSEL, MY ONLY THING IS I'M NOT SURE THIS IS READY FOR ADOPTION.
I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO ONE MORE REVIEW OF IT, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CONCERT IN THE PARK.
MR. STROME MENTIONED WHAT FREEPORT AND WHAT CORPUS CHRISTI MIGHT HAVE.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ENFORCE THIS AND HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING IT.
I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
I MEAN, MY IMPRESSION IS WE IF WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT SOMETHING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.
AND WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SIT HERE AND GO BACK AND FORTH ON IT.
BUT YOU ALL MAKE THE MOTION, SO IT'S UP TO YOU ALL.
I MOVE, WE TABLE THIS ISSUE UNTIL THE ISSUES THAT WERE ADDRESSED BY THE MAYOR ARE EXCUSE ME, THE ISSUES THE MAYOR EXPRESSED ARE ADDRESSED THAT ANOTHER HEARING.
HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANYTHING YOU ALL WANT TO SEE ADDED? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT? YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF ECHO YOUR THOUGHT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
I WANT TO KNOW THAT WE'RE CLEAN.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT INFRINGING ON ANY SORT OF CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARDS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
I DON'T WANT US TO INVOLVE OURSELVES IN SOME SORT OF LITIGATION.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO PROTECT US IN THAT WAY BEFORE WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND. THE OTHER PART TO REMEMBER IS IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THIS TONIGHT AND IT GOES INTO EFFECT AND AS WAS ALREADY ALLUDED TO, THERE'S COMING UP NEXT MONTH.
SO WE WOULD BE IMPLEMENTING THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FAIR WEEK.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET THE KINKS WORKED OUT, NOT DURING THE FAIR.
I THINK IT'D BE BETTER THAN TO TRY TO DO THIS ALL AT ONE TIME.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
WE WILL TABLE THIS FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
[8. Conduct a Public Hearing, discussion and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20230926-008 a request to rezone 1.67 acres from the Commercial General District to the SF- 7.2 Single Family Residential District, for property located at 2927 N. Valderas St., Angleton, TX; situated approximately 625 ft. north of the Henderson Rd./N. Valderas intersection, Brazoria County, Texas.]
A REQUEST TO REZONE 1.67 ACRES FROM THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT TO THE SF DASH 7.2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2927 NORTH VALDEZ STREET ANGLETON, TEXAS, SITUATED APPROXIMATELY 625FT NORTH OF THE HENDERSON ROAD AND NORTH VALLADARES INTERSECTION, BRAZORIA COUNTY,[00:30:02]
TEXAS. OTIS, YOU WANT TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW FIRST? YES, SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ALSO CONSIDERATION FOR ACTION.GIVE YOU GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE IT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YES, SIR. SO THIS IS A PETITION FOR A REZONING FROM C G COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO SF 6.3 FOR RESIDENTIAL USE PROPERTY LOCATED WHERE DESCRIBED FOR 1.67 ACRES.
THIS PARTICULAR CASE WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE 19TH IN WHICH THEY ENTERTAIN THE PUBLIC HEARING HAD FEEDBACK ON THIS ISSUE IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF FOR A POSITIVE APPROVAL FOR THIS TRACK TO RESIDENTIAL USE, IN WHICH THE APPLICANT HOPES TO USE IT FOR ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A STORAGE BUILDING, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE REAR PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THIS SIDE OF NORTH FORT DARIUS, THIS IS, OF COURSE, ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT WAS ZONED MAJORITY COMMERCIAL AS IT AS IT WAS ON 288 BUSINESS JUST EAST OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT BASICALLY ALIGNS WITH RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST.
SO WE DESCRIBE THE VARIOUS USES IN THE STAFF REPORT AND YOU CAN JUST KEEP ROLLING THAT SLIDE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 3 TO 1.
WE ONLY HAD FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT AND SO IT FAILED TO GET APPROVED DUE TO IT NEEDING A MAJORITY VOTE FOR THE ITEM. THE PROPERTY WAS LISTED AS COMMERCIAL AND THE APPLICANT GAVE TESTIMONY THAT IT SORT OF ALLUDES, IF YOU LOOK IT UP, IT ACTUALLY SAYS RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, SOME LEVEL OF LOW INTENSE HOUSING AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAVE LISTED THE MINUTES AS A RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS FOR YOUR INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT WAS SAID AT THAT PARTICULAR MEETING. I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE APPLICANT APPROACHES WITH THEIR DESIRE, BUT ALL OF THAT IS IN THE STAFF SUMMARY. I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COUNCIL ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING.
GREAT. COUNCIL DO I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.
SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.
HELLO, MY NAME IS PATSY GARCIA AND I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
TODAY I BROUGHT MY SON IN LAW, STEVEN, AND MY REALTOR SLASH DAUGHTER, ALEXIS.
SO YOU'RE FOR THIS ITEM? YES. OKAY. DEFINITELY.
ANYBODY ELSE? OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. OKAY.
ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OKAY, MS..
GARCIA, WE'LL CALL YOU UP IN JUST A SECOND BECAUSE WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE MOMENT.
SO WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THAT AND THEN CLOSE IT.
TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SAME SIGN WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING.
AS YOU KNOW, THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE IS DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH.
IT IS RESIDENTIAL IN SCALE WITH THE PITCH ROOF.
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COMMERCIAL ON THIS CORRIDOR.BY THE SIZE OF THE ACRE, 1.6 ACRES, WE FELT THAT TO PUT SOME COMMERCIAL USE ON THE PROPERTY WITH PARKING DETENTION, IT'S VERY LIMITED IN TERMS OF A COMMERCIAL USE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN IT WOULD BE ANOTHER DRIVEWAY WITH A LOT OF CUSTOMERS VISITING THAT GENERAL COMMERCIAL USE.
SO WE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH ITS GATED SINGLE FAMILY LOT IN WHICH THEY WOULD FENCE IT IN.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOUR MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE TO THE DIRECT NORTH AS YOU KNOW THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED MF R 29 IN WHICH THAT LANDOWNER COULD COME IN AND PUT APARTMENTS RIGHT DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS PIECE.
WE'VE GOTTEN SOME INTEREST IN THAT PROPERTY, WHICH IS DIRECTLY DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.
BUT THOSE ARE OUR GENERAL COMMENTS.
YOU WERE SPEAKING OF THE FENCING AND YOU SAID THAT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING, BUT HAVE HAVE YOU BEEN CLEAR TO THE POTENTIAL LANDOWNERS WHAT WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE? BECAUSE I JUST HEARD PUTTING A BARN FIRST AND THEN BUILDING A HOUSE WHICH, YOU KNOW, CAN'T DO.
YES, THAT WAS CLEARED AND CLARIFIED DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR A SIMULTANEOUS, SIMULTANEOUS PERMIT IN WHICH WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO BUILD THE HOUSE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD WHILE THE PERMIT IS ACTIVE.
BUT YOU CANNOT HAVE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ABSENT A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE ON THE LOT.
RIGHT. AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AND THEY ARE AWARE OF WHAT CAN GO AROUND THEM.
I THINK THEY'RE JUST DOING THAT FOR PRIVACY AND SAFETY REASONS.
SO WHAT WAS THE TIME LIMIT ON THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSE BEING BUILT? SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'LL DO THE BARN WITHIN ONE YEAR AND THE HOME WOULD FOLLOW WITHIN ONE YEAR AS WELL.
SO THEY WOULD ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THE PERMIT AND WE WOULD ALLOW THAT.
I WOULD IS HOW WOULD THEY BE SERVED WITH WATER AND SEWER? THEY'RE REQUIRED TO APPLY FOR THE CAPACITY FOR ONE SINGLE FAMILY LOT IF IT WERE A REZONE IN TERMS OF WHERE THE CURRENT UTILITIES ARE.
I'M NOT 100% SURE WHERE THE ALIGNMENT IS, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT WITH THE SOCIAL SECURITY RIGHT DIRECTLY OFFICE, RIGHT DIRECTLY SOUTH OF IT, IT SHOULD BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, YOU WOULD THINK.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY NEED TO BE MADE AWARE, IF THEY HAVE TO EXTEND A FIRE MAIN UP THE UP THE ROAD OR EXTEND THE SANITARY SEWER MAIN FOR THEIR SERVICE, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF THAT.
THAT COULD BECOME VERY EXPENSIVE.
ARE THERE RESTRICTIONS ON THE ZONING AS TO HOW MANY TRAILERS YOU CAN PUT ON? A LOT. THAT'S LOOKING AT PUTTING TWO, FOUR, SIX, NINE TRAILERS ON THIS RESIDENTIAL LOT.
NO, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PUT A MOBILE HOME ON THAT LOT.
I ENUMERATED NINE DIFFERENT TRAILERS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY PUTTING OUT THERE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE LIMITED BY THE SIZE OF THE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
IT CANNOT BE LARGER THAN THE HOUSE UNDER THE CURRENT CODE.
OKAY. AS I SPOKE WITH THE MAYOR EARLIER, THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO LET THEM KNOW THAT VARIANCES WOULD NOT BE FAVORABLE IN THIS SITUATION. YOU KNOW, IN CASE THEY WERE TO SELL THE PROPERTY OR SOMEONE ELSE CAME IN WITH THAT INTENTION, BUT THEY WOULD BE LIMITED BY THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO THAT INFORMATION, I THINK, IS PROVIDED TO THEM AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
OKAY. SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
Y'ALL DON'T RUN A BUSINESS, RIGHT? WITH THE TRAILERS. Y'ALL JUST LIKE TRAILERS.
THEY'RE JUST UTILITY TRAILERS OR CALL HOMES.
DO YOU MIND THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? OKAY. YEAH.
AND MY NAME IS STEPHEN LANCELOT.
SOMETHING BREAKS DOWN. WE WANT TO GO PICK IT UP.
IT'S A LOT EASIER THAT WAY THAN CALLING A WRECKER TO CARGO TRAILERS THAT ARE ENCLOSED.
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THEN WE HAVE THREE UTILITY TRAILERS THAT WE USE FOR MULCH, DIRT, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.AND THEN MY CAMPER THAT, YOU KNOW, IS A 40 FOOT LONG CAMPER, BUT NONE OF IT'S JUNK AND NOTHING'S GOING TO BE LIKE OUTSIDE OR VISIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.
SO YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, IF WE BUILT THE HOUSE FIRST, THE QUESTION WOULD BE THERE.
BUT BUILDING THE BARN FIRST FOR THE TRAILERS JUST SEEMS LIKE THE PRIORITIES WRONG.
YEAH. SO? WELL, WE NEED SOMEWHERE TO PUT ALL OUR STUFF.
YEAH. RIGHT NOW WE LIVE ON HEATHER AND I CAN'T EVEN PARK A TRAILER IN MY DRIVEWAY.
OKAY. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I WOULD JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THAT PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF VALLADARES, BUT ON THE WEST SIDE AND HENDERSON, THERE USED TO BE A BALL PELTIER SELL FOR SALE SIGN AND IT ACTUALLY SAYS SOLD.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN ON THAT CORNER? IS THAT COMMERCIAL ALSO? WOULD THAT BE THE SOUTHEAST CORNER? THE NORTH.
I'M SORRY. NORTHWEST. I HAD MY TURN.
I'M NOT AWARE THERE'S CURRENTLY A STRUCTURE THERE AND MAYBE SOMEONE'S PLANNING ON REUSING IT.
I DON'T THINK SO. THE OTHER SIDE. NOT ON THE CORNER.
CATTY CORNER ACROSS. CATTY CORNER.
DO YOU KNOW IF THAT ZONED COMMERCIAL? ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HENDERSON, NORTH WEST OF VALDEZ, YOU HAVE WEST INTERSECTION.
TITAN CONTROLS IS THE FIRST ONE WEST OF CALDERA.
SO NEXT TO IT IS COMMERCIAL AS WELL.
IT SHOULD BE ALL THAT COMMERCIAL.
BUT THE EAST SIDE OF VALDEZ IS THAT YOU SAID, IS ALL GOING TO POSSIBLY BE TOWNHOMES.
A IS THAT NORTH EAST CORNER? AND IT RUNS ALL THE WAY TO THE FIRST LIGHT, THAT CROSSING ROAD? CORRECT. ALL OF THAT THEY CAN LAY IN ALL THE WAY TO THE DAYCARE.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S I MEAN, I WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING EIGHT YEARS AGO, THAT WAS UP FOR.
A DEVELOPMENT BACK THEN AND FELL THROUGH BACK THEN.
SO RIGHT, WE HAVE A ROUGH LAYOUT OF A ATTACHED TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.
AND OF COURSE, THAT'S ATTACHED. IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT FROM.
ONE RESIDENT SITTING ON 1.67 ACRES.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO.
IT WAS PROBABLY IN THE SPRING SOMETIME ABOUT GOING THROUGH TOWN.
HAVE WE DONE THAT? WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT.
WE HAD A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH YOU AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO WE NEED TO RESCHEDULE THAT.
BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE.
THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME OF JUST THE FLIP OF DR.
RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL AREA AND ADDING A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE.
AND HERE WE ARE TAKING NOW A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE AND ADDING A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
I DON'T KNOW. I'M KIND OF AT A LOSS THAT THIS WAS MR..
IT FIT THE IT WAS IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL.
HE WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL. IT WAS 20 PLUS YEARS OR WHATEVER.
SO LONG AGO YOU COULD NOT FIND IT IN THE RECORD.
CORRECT. YOU LOOKED IN THROUGH THE RECORD AND YOU COULDN'T FIND IT.
UH, THAT MEANT IT EXCEEDED THE EARLY SOME MID 90S OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IT HAD BEEN 20 YEARS PLUS ON THE BOOKS THAT WAY.
BUT THIS IS US NOW DECIDING TO TOTALLY RESTRUCTURE.
OUR ZONING MAP, CORRECT? PRESENTLY, I THINK IT'S THE SAME GIVENS.
THIS ONE BEING COMMERCIAL, SHE'S TRYING TO REZONE IT TO SINGLE FAMILY.
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HE REZONE THE SMALL TRACT FOR HIS ESTATE AND RETAIN THE REST OF THE COMMERCIAL FOR THE WAREHOUSE THAT WAS ALREADY ZONED, COMMERCIAL THAT WAS ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL AND AROUND IT, RESIDENTIAL HAD GROWN UP.I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY.
I JUST HAVE A FEELING THAT MUCH OF THIS LAND WAS ANNEXED IN DUE TO TO 88 AND IT MUST HAVE BEEN SOME TYPE OF MASS ANNEXATION AS WELL AS A MASS ZONING OF THIS AREA BECAUSE WE CANNOT FIND AN ORDINANCE THAT'S SPECIFIED, EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACT BEING ZONED COMMERCIAL 2007, 2008, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
THOMAS, RIGHT. SOMEBODY SET OUT A LONG TIME AGO AND SAID, THAT'S COMMERCIAL AND THEN AROUND IT.
GREW A BUNCH OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND THEN WE COME BACK AND WE'RE SITTING HERE GOING, MAN, THAT REALLY SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S KIND OF STICKS OUT IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING RIGHT HERE.
AND 20 YEARS FROM NOW, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GO, MAN, WHY DID THEY ZONE THAT RESIDENTIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT? SO IF WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO TAKE ACTION OTHERWISE TONIGHT TO ACTUALLY LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND DECIDE WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF THIS LAND JUST NORTH OF IT, IT'S MULTIFAMILY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOES NOT REPRESENT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH 1.6, SEVEN ACRE.
THAT'S A BARN CARRYING TEN DIFFERENT ITEMS. BACK IN THE MIDDLE WITH THE HOUSE.
LET ME ASK YOU THIS. OTIS, DO YOU THINK A RESIDENTIAL LOT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT MAY END UP AS A DETERRENT FOR OTHER GROWTH? WE MADE THE APPLICANT AWARE OF THAT.
BUT THEY ARE AWARE, I THINK, OF THE SURROUNDING ZONING.
SAME THING WITH WHAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORFOLK.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
AS WE LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THESE ARE THE CORRIDORS THAT WE'LL LOOK AT CLOSER TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S SOME CONSISTENCY OR INCONSISTENCY WITH THE ZONING AND LAND USE.
AND IN INSTANCES LIKE THIS IS TYPICALLY A TRANSITIONAL ZONE THAT'S RECOMMENDED WITH THE USES THAT GO IN BETWEEN RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL. SO IT'S JUST NOT AN IDEAL SITUATION THE WAY THE ENTIRE RANCHO SUBDIVISION SORT OF SITS IN HERE.
BUT I THINK THAT'S A RESULT OF MASS ANNEXATION.
YOU KNOW, TO THE NORTH OF THIS ALONG 523 IS MUCH RED CG COMMERCIAL.
THAT LAND MIGHT GO FOR SOME MAJOR COMMERCIAL ON THE NORTH SIDE AND YOU'LL HAVE THE SAME INSTANCE.
SO AS JOHN POINTED OUT, JUST TO THE NORTH IS A MULTIFAMILY.
BUT TO THE NORTH OF THAT ARE SEVERAL CHURCHES, RIGHT? WHICH IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH COMMERCIAL THAN, I WOULD SAY RESIDENTIAL.
YOU WOULDN'T CALL IT RESIDENTIAL, WOULD YOU, JOHN? IT'S TRANSACTIONAL, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHURCH. WELL, THERE'S CHURCHES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU GOT A CHURCH RIGHT DOWN ON ON BALDERAS RIGHT NEXT TO MR. DOCTOR THOMAS'S PLACE.
I USUALLY SEE THEM AS REALLY INSTITUTIONAL.
THAT'S BUFFERING USUALLY BETWEEN THE TWO.
WOULD YOU SEE COMMERCIAL NOT WANTING TO GO IN AROUND THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A HOUSE RIGHT THERE.
USUALLY IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND, RIGHT? WHAT YOU SEE ALONG 288 WOULD WOULD HAVE ISSUE AGAINST, I THINK RESIDENTIAL.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT NOISE PRODUCERS OR ANYONE THAT'S I WOULD THINK WOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT A HOUSE BEING IN THE AREA BECAUSE THERE'S HOUSES RIGHT SOUTH OF HENDERSON. BUT.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS VALID IN TERMS OF ZONING, THIS RESIDENTIAL.
AND I THINK WE BROUGHT THESE ISSUES UP WHEN IT CAME TO THE CONCEPT REVIEW.
WE WEIGHED THE PROS AND THE CONS OF ZONING THIS THE COMMERCIAL, AND WE GAVE YOU THE INFORMATION.
YES. SO, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOU STANDING BY YOUR INDEPENDENT, YOU KNOW, DECISION.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING.
I APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO SUPPORT YOUR REASONING.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHY I THINK THESE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.
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I'LL SAY THIS BEFORE I GET DONE TALKING.I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS I'M AGAINST IT.
I SPOKE OUT AGAINST IT WHEN THEY SPOKE TO THE COUNCIL LAST TIME.
BUT I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN THERE WAS A PROPERTY, I THINK IT WAS ON SHANKS AND A GENTLEMAN PRESENTED THREE SEPARATE TIMES TO US BECAUSE HE WANTED TO TAKE A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND TURN IT INTO A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
AND IT WAS VERY SIMILAR IN THAT IT HAD A LARGE SPACE AND YOU COULD DO PERSONAL BUSINESS IN THE FRONT AND PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS IN THE BACK, BASICALLY HAVE A RESIDENCE AND AND IT WASN'T EASY, BUT WE TOLD HIM NO THREE TIMES.
SO JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT FUN TO SAY NO, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION.
AND I APPRECIATE THEM WANTING TO HAVE A PLACE TO DEVELOP.
I MEAN, HECK, YOU KNOW, 1.6, SEVEN ACRES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.
I'VE GOT A GOOD DEAL ON IT, TOO.
I DON'T KNOW. IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS.
BUT I JUST THINK FOR THE LONG TERM BETTERMENT OF THE CITY, I WOULD LOVE TO KEEP THE LAND BETWEEN VALADARES TO ITS WEST AND TO 88 TO ITS EAST.
THAT BASICALLY SQUARE LEFT ZONED COMMERCIAL.
I THINK THAT'S JUST HISTORICALLY TRUE.
WHEN YOU BUILD A BYPASS SUCH AS WE BUILT 288 AROUND OUR WEST, SO INTO OUR NORTH.
SO MY VOTE IS TO DENY IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S NOT EASY, BUT IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION.
AND THEN THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO BUY BOTH AND TURN IT INTO A GIGANTIC COMPLEX.
BUT AS OTIS MENTIONED, IT BEING SUCH A SMALL 1.6, 1.7 WITH THE DETENTION DRAINAGE ISSUES AND AMOUNT OF CONCRETE FOR PARKING AND BUILDING TO TURN IT INTO A COMMERCIAL LIMITS THE SIZE AND IT WILL INCREASE MORE TRAFFIC TO RIGHT THERE AT THE BEGINNING OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE DEVELOPED AND IT HAS NOT.
BUT NOW WE HAVE NOW BEEN APPROACHED BY SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
IT WILL INCREASE THE VALUE AND AND NOT BE EMPTY.
WELL, I MEAN, THAT BRINGS ME YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.
SO THAT BRINGS ME TO MY QUESTION TO OTIS IS SO LET'S SAY WE HAVE THAT MEETING IN OCTOBER.
WE REVIEWED THE LAND AND WE DECIDED THAT SHOULDN'T BE MULTIFAMILY, IT SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL.
NOW WE'VE JUST PIGEONHOLED OURSELVES INTO A POSITION WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE.
BUT WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PERMISSION OF THE LAND OWNER TO CHANGE FROM MULTIFAMILY TO COMMERCIAL, IF WE DEEM THAT WE WANT THAT, I DON'T I THINK THERE'S SOME REGULATIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT. YES.
SO IT'S IT'S UP TO THE OWNERS.
I MEAN, AND THAT'S THAT'S WELL, THAT'S FINE.
BUT WE CAN ALWAYS I MEAN, DOES IT HURT TO ASK, IS THAT ILLEGAL? I THINK IT'S OKAY FOR US TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, RECOMMEND SOMETHING ELSE.
THEY DON'T ALWAYS RUN PARALLEL.
SO THE CITY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT VISION, LIKE YOU SAID.
I'M ON PAGE 22 OF OUR OF OUR PACK.
THE LAVENDER COLORED PROPERTY ZONE MFR 29.
WHAT'S THE NORTH LIMIT OF THAT PROPERTY? THERE IS A STRANGE EASEMENT THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE.
FOR THE ON ON SOME OF THE ZONING MAPS IT ALLUDES THAT SOME OF THAT LAND AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT CONNECTION TO 288 WHO MENTIONED CORRECT SOME EASEMENT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS NOTHING PUBLIC WORKS IS AWARE OF THAT EASEMENT WORK TRACTOR SUPPLY WATER.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST LOGICAL PLACE TO PUT IT.
BUT WE LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S SOME TYPE OF EASEMENT.
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DOES THAT INCLUDE THE THE HISPANIC CHURCH OUT THERE? SOUTH OF THEM IS THE IS THE CHURCH OF LATTER DAY SAINTS.THE M F R 29 DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CHURCHES AS WE SAW IT.
NO, SIR. WELL, THE CHURCH IS URBAN IS AGRICULTURALLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL USE ON A VERSION OF THE ZONING MAP THAT'S NOT VERIFIED.
BUT YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT GREEN AREA THAT'S DOWN AND IT'S COMING UP ACT.
BUT WE THOUGHT THAT ENTIRE BLOB WAS RED CG COMMERCIAL.
BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT PROBABLY GOT ANNEXED IN AND NEVER GOT RE ZONED.
I THINK THAT TRACK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
SAME THING WITH THE RED ACROSS THE STREET.
RIGHT. SO THAT WAS A SEPARATE CASE ON THAT.
BUT HERE IT STILL SHOWS A CG, CORRECT.
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A HOUSE NOW.
IN THE DAYCARE ON THE OTHER INTERSECTION.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY ADVERSE TO IT BEING A RESIDENTIAL LOT, CONSIDERING ACROSS THE STREET, RESIDENTIAL SOUTH IS RESIDENTIAL.
AS FAR AS THE TRAILERS AND MAYBE IT LOOKING CLUTTERED OR, YOU KNOW, UNAPPEALING.
UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEIR HOUSE.
IT'S NEVER, YOU KNOW, IT NEVER LOOKS OUT OF SORTS OR ANYTHING.
SO THAT'S NOT REALLY A CONCERN OF MINE AS FAR AS THE LOOK OF IT.
AND THEN IF WE DO DO MULTIFAMILY ACROSS THE STREET THERE, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT ZONED FOR, RIGHT? ON THE SAME SIDE. YEAH, JUST NORTH.
YOU KNOW, TO ME, I THINK THAT'S A RISK FOR FOR THEM.
CORRECT. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, UM, AS COUNCILMAN OR COUNCILPERSON DANIELS MENTIONED, IT'S SAT VACANT.
MAYBE FOR. HEY, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
I GUESS THE LAST THING I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ALL YOU ARE AWARE THAT YOU CAN'T OPERATE A BUSINESS OUT OF YOUR HOME, RIGHT? SO I DON'T THINK THE DELAY OF SOMEBODY PURCHASING IS SUCH A BIG PROBLEM.
I MEAN, I WASN'T HERE. I MEAN, Y'ALL WERE HERE BEFORE ME, SO.
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS WASN'T GROWTH FOR A WHILE.
SO YOU GET SOME AND NOW WE'RE RIPPING AWAY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
BUT WE JUST IT'S AN INTERESTING DECISION.
WE PROMOTE GROWTH AND THEN RIP AWAY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
IS THE INTENTION TO KEEP THIS AS ONE TRACT OR HAVE IT DIVIDED INTO POSSIBLY BE DIVIDED INTO TWO? THE INTENTION IS ONE TRACK.
YES, SIR. SO THEY'LL HAVE TO APPLY FOR A DRIVEWAY OFF OF NORTH BORDERS.
ANYTHING ELSE WOULD GO THROUGH A SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
NO, SIR. COUNCILOR, DO I HAVE A MOTION? OR ALSO, WE ALSO COULD BE OPENING OURSELVES UP TO MORE AND MORE VARIANCES AND THEY'LL USE THIS ONE.
ONCE ONE ONE FLAG IS PLANTED, EVERYBODY WILL COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WHY DID YOU DO IT FOR THEM BUT NOT FOR ME? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EACH ONE OF US HAS TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
FIGURED OUT AS WE ALL DID IT TO THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET AND RANCHO CORNER.
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WHY CAN'T YOU DO IT TO THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET FOR US? I JUST NOTICED THAT IT SAID IT'S COMMERCIAL, GENERAL.I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT EVEN COMING TO US.
YEAH, IT'S SINGLE FAMILY NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT EVER CAME BACK TO US TO BE RESUMED.
YEAH. THE HOUSE WAS BUILT, WHAT, 2019, 2018? SOMEWHERE IN THERE? WELL, I WASN'T ON CITY COUNCIL, SO I CAN'T ANSWER FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
SO IT WAS RESIDENTIAL BEFORE IT WAS ADVERTISED.
OKAY. OKAY. I THINK IT WAS ON THE MARKET FOR.
UNTOUCHED. IT'S BEEN OWNED BY THAT SAME INDIVIDUAL OR SAME CORPORATION SINCE THE LATE 90S.
SO. WELL, THAT WHOLE WELL, NOT THE WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT MOST OF THAT ENTIRE SQUARE OF PROPERTY OUT THERE WAS BOUGHT BY.
AND THEN MR. O'FARRELL AND HIS GROUP DIVIDED IT UP AND MADE IT A COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION.
BUT THIS 1.67 ACRES WAS NEVER PART OF THAT THAT PARENT TRACT.
IT WAS A THEY ACQUIRED IT SOME TIME IN THE PAST.
OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.
SO BY VOTING I YOU ARE DENYING VOTING.
NAY, YOU ARE APPROVING BASICALLY.
TONY, IS THAT CORRECT? SO I'M SORRY. IT'S ZONING.
I SHOULD I THINK I MEAN CONSULTED BY LEGAL HERE.
SO DENYING A REZONING, NOT A VARIANCE.
NOT DENYING THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2927 NORTH.
OKAY. SO BY VOTING, BY VOTING THE NEGATIVE TO THE NEGATIVE VOTE, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT.
WE ARE ARE WE GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS ITEM AND AND VOTE POSITIVELY OR WOULD WE VOTE TO THE WHAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD HAS BEEN A MOTION TO OR HAS BEEN A PROPOSAL TO REZONE.
RIGHT. SO WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT.
BUT THAT'S A LEGITIMATE MOTION, THOUGH.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO DENY THAT THE MOTION IS TO DENY THE REQUEST? SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OR.
SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. THREE, THREE.
I KNEW THAT'S WHERE WE WERE GOING TO GO.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO ASK THE QUESTION.
WELL, THE PROPOSAL IS TO TO REZONE THE PROPERTY IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION AND CAN DO THAT.
SHE MAKES A MOTION TO TO GRANT THE REZONING CAN DO THAT AND HAVE THE COUNCIL VOTE.
OR IF WE BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE A SAME VOTE, WE CAN TABLE THE ITEM AND.
JUDITH DIDN'T WARN YOU ABOUT HIS NOT GOING.
ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL, IT JUST IT WAS A TIE VOTE AND IT DIDN'T PASS.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AT THIS POINT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE REZONING.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
SO WE'LL DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, CONCERNS?
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GO AHEAD. SO IF IT ENDS IN THE SAME WAY, IT'LL BE TABLED.TABLED. IF IT GOES UP OR DOWN, THAT'S IT.
RIGHT. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE TONIGHT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO IT IS STILL A TIE.
SO THAT'S ALL I CAN DO AT THE MOMENT.
DOES IT COME BACK OR WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? DOES IT GO BACK TO GO ON TO THE NEXT.
SO SO WE CAN THEY CAN REQUEST TO BRING IT BACK.
THEY CAN REQUEST TO BRING IT BACK.
OH, SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU MEANT FOR.
YES, THEY CAN BE PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
[9. Update, discussion and possible action on the Drought Contingency Plan.]
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.SO IN THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT THIS TOPIC UP, WE DECIDED TO GO FROM THE STAGE ONE TO THE STAGE TWO OF THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN BASED ON THE WATER USAGE STILL CONTINUING TO RISE.
AND SINCE BEING IN THE STAGE TWO, OUR WATER USAGE HAS DROPPED QUITE A BIT.
AND CURRENTLY OUR THREE DAY AVERAGE IS 2.2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
YOU KNOW, IT'D BE MY SUGGESTION TO LEAVE IT IN PLACE BASED ON THE FACT THAT ON THE 12TH WHEN IT WAS INITIATED IS WHEN WE SAW THE WATER USAGE DROP AND IT WASN'T DROPPING DURING STAGE ONE.
SO IF WE GO BACK AND REVERSE OR JUST REMOVE EVERYTHING COMPLETELY, I FEEL LIKE THE USAGE IS JUST GOING TO JUMP RIGHT BACK UP AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK HERE INITIATING ANOTHER STAGE ONE OR STAGE TWO.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST LEAVING IT IN PLACE UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
AND BUT THAT'S JUST MY RECOMMENDATION.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL GUIDANCE.
AND NO OTHER CITIES ARE CHANGING RIGHT NOW EITHER.
THEY'RE STAYING REMAINING IN THEIR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY RESTRICTIONS.
THE COUNTY JUST LIFTED THE BURN BAN TODAY.
I SAW THAT. WHAT A COINCIDENCE.
SO. YOU THINK THE DROPPAGE AND ORDERS JUST EVERYBODY GAVE UP ON THE YARDS? I THINK SO. JUST BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT DROPPED, YOU KNOW, 2.5 MILLION GALLONS JUST FROM ONE DAY TO THE NEXT FROM THE DAY WE INITIATED IT ON THE 12TH AND THE 13TH, IT WAS HAD DROPPED THAT MUCH. WHAT ARE YOU.
JAMIE'S NOT IN HERE, IS SHE? NO, SHE LEFT. OKAY.
I DON'T I DON'T FEEL THAT WE NEED TO STAY IN STAGE TWO.
I THINK STAGE ONE IS ACCEPTABLE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, HECTOR, REMIND ME, STAGE TWO IS THREE. IS IT 3 MILLION? 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AS A THREE DAY AVERAGE.
RIGHT. AND WE'RE AT CURRENTLY 2.5, 3.4.
CURRENT THREE DAY AVERAGE IS NOW AT 2.284 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
SO BY THAT METRIC, WE ARE NOT IN A STAGE TWO, WE'RE NOT IN A STAGE TWO OR IN STAGE ONE.
WE ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN BASED ON THAT.
YES. AND I'M OKAY WITH GOING TO KEEPING STAGE ONE, BUT STAGE TWO, I FEEL.
YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS PRETTY WE HAD TO GIVE A VARIANCE DURING THAT TIME TO ACS FOR THEIR EVENT BECAUSE THEY WERE USING WATER.
YES. YES. AND THEN I'M PRETTY SURE I DROVE AROUND LAST WEEKEND AND SAW BIRTHDAY PARTIES WITH BOUNCE HOUSES AND WATER SLIDES AND PRETTY SURE THEY DIDN'T GET A VARIANCE, BUT THEY STILL DID IT. AND I MEAN, I JUST WONDER, IS IT REALLY IS IT GOING TO BE ENFORCEABLE? ARE WE GOING TO SEND THE POLICE OUT TO GIVE CITATIONS FOR THAT? I JUST WE'RE NOT THERE BY THAT METRIC.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE IN THAT STAGE.
TO JOHN, I'M PLEADING THE FIFTH AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE OF REPORTS OF THAT.
AND WE HAVEN'T GONE HARD CORE TO LOOK AT PEOPLE'S WATER BILLS TO SEE WHEN THEY'RE FILLING THE POOLS.
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RIGHT. BUT I'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS THAT HAVE COME UP TO ME AND SAID THAT THEY'RE FALLING AGAIN.SO THEY ARE RESPECTING WHAT YOU ALL PUT OUT.
SO AGAIN, WE BRING IT BACK LIKE I PROMISED.
I JUST. QUESTION HECTOR, YOU SAID SO THREE DAY AVERAGE.
DOES THAT INCLUDE TODAY? YES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TODAY WASN'T HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY LAST NIGHT'S RAIN.
WHAT WERE THE TWO DAYS? WHAT WERE? SO ON SUNDAY, OUR USAGE WAS A 2.531 MILLION GALLONS, AND MONDAY'S USAGE WAS 2.529 MILLION GALLONS. AND TODAY'S WAS 2.088.
SO WE HAD IT DID DROP QUITE A BIT TODAY.
YES. BUT THE TWO PREVIOUS DAYS WERE STILL WELL BELOW.
WELL, WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR OUT OF A DROUGHT RIGHT NOW.
AND THE WATER LEAKS WE'RE STILL HAVING I HAVE NOT STOPPED BUSTING WATER MAINS.
THE GROUND IS STILL DRY AS A BONE, EVEN WITH THE HALF TO ONE INCH OF RAIN WE GOT LAST NIGHT.
I DON'T SEE WHERE WE'RE INFRINGING ON ON THE PUBLIC'S RIGHTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BY DOING THIS.
I MEAN, IT'S. THE GESTAPO IS NOT GOING DOOR TO DOOR CHECKING PEOPLE TO SEE IT THERE.
IT'S MORE OF A VOLUNTARY THING, REALLY.
SO. I'M IN FAVOR OF STAYING WITH THE LEVEL TWO.
I'M IN FAVOR OF GOING WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? STAY AT STAGE TWO. STAGE TWO AT ASKING FOR GUIDANCE.
FOR HOW LONG? UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, I BELIEVE.
SORRY IF THAT'S NOT THE CORRECT DATE, BUT YES, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE TABLE TO DISCUSS.
BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE LEVELS.
RIGHT. WE'VE BEEN BELOW THAT EVER SINCE.
EVER SINCE WE INITIATED STAGE TWO, IT HAS DROPPED WELL BELOW THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE CREDIT THAT TO IS ACTUALLY GOING INTO STAGE TWO.
SO I THINK. DIDN'T IT GO BEFORE THE MEETING? IT WENT TECHNICALLY TO STAGE TWO, BUT WE JUST LEFT IT TO THE MEETING ON.
THE ALL THE ALL THE WATER BILLS GO OUT AT THE SAME TIME.
LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE WATER BILLS GO OUT, SEE WHAT YOUR CONSUMPTION WAS.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO THEY MIGHT WANT TO JUST VOLUNTARILY BACK OFF.
YES. WELL, THEN I MEAN BY THAT.
WHY ARE YOU KEEPING US AT 3 MILLION AS OUR STAGE TWO? WHY DON'T WE GO TO 2.5 FOR STAGE TWO? IF WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW IT AND LET'S FOLLOW IT.
BUT IF WE'RE NOT THERE, WE'RE NOT AVERAGING IT.
SINCE WE WENT TO THE STAGE TWO, WE'VE BEEN UNDER WHAT'S I GUESS YOU LOOKED AT THREE DAYS.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE WAS DURING THAT ENTIRE TIME, BUT WE WERE NOWHERE NEAR OUT.
I SEND IT OUT MAYBE THIS MORNING.
OKAY. AND IT GOES BACK QUITE, QUITE A BIT.
YEAH. I THINK WE'VE BEEN BELOW THAT LEVEL.
FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES THAT WE SET FORTH AND WE ADOPTED.
YES. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO TO REVISIT AS THE ENTIRE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN ITSELF, BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH YOU, WITH THE 3.0 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY ABOUT THAT NEEDING TO BE RELOOKED AT.
SO THAT WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND GOING BACK TO STAGE ONE.
YEAH. SO COUNCIL, I NEED ACTION.
I WOULD I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.
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DOESN'T MATTER. COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.WAIT. I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO COUNCILMAN GONGORA LAST MINUTE.
SO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA.
GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THIS EMAIL FROM YOU, HECTOR.
I MEAN, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STAGE ONE AND STAGE TWO IS.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER. WE'RE STILL UNDER STAGE ONE.
YEAH, I APPRECIATE I DON'T I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ALL ARE COMING FROM.
AND I DO THINK IT HAD A POSITIVE EFFECT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ON THE WRONG SIDE.
I'LL BE THE FIRST TO. UM, SO, BUT I THINK WE'RE WELL BELOW THAT, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S.
SO I THINK IT HAD AN INTENDED PURPOSE.
IT WAS SUCCESSFUL. BUT I THINK WE CAN MOVE HIM TO A LESS RESTRICTIVE.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. AS A42 VOTE, WE WILL GO.
[10. Presentation and discussion with the City’s Financial Advisor regarding the City’s long term debt capacity]
I ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE JOE IN ATTENDANCE.I'VE BEEN PROMISING AND PROMISING.
THANK YOU. HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL JOE MORROW WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES.
I TOOK A LOOK FOR YOU AT JUST A LITTLE CAPACITY, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE ON YOUR CIP LIST FOR THIS YEAR.
IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE SOMEWHERE AROUND 10 TO 11 MILLION FOR GENERAL PURPOSE PROJECTS.
I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING QUITE A BIT ABOUT UTILITY PROJECTS AS THOSE WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE GOING TO COME THIS YEAR FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'RE THINGS THAT WOULD BE BACKED WITH TAXES.
THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT INFLUENCE HOW MUCH YOU CAN BORROW.
ONE IS GOING TO BE YOUR TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE.
SO I MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS IN YOUR TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE GROWTH, WHICH MAY BE A LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE IN 21 TO TAX YEAR 22.
THAT THAT SPAN OF TAX YEAR, 21 TO TAX YEAR 22 YOU HAD A GROWTH OF 19% IN YOUR NET TAXABLE VALUE.
THEN FROM TAX YEAR 22 TO 23, YOU HAD A GROWTH RATE OF 24%.
SO YOU'RE ADDING LIKE 250 MILLION AT A TIME.
I BACKED THAT DOWN AND IN THIS ANALYSIS JUST SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GROW 10% INSTEAD OF 20 OR CLOSE TO 25%, WHICH STILL ADDS A LOT OF VALUE.
SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE CITY GROWING RAPIDLY, WHICH I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH.
DEVELOPMENT GOING ON AND EVERYTHING COMING DOWN TO 88.
AS YOU KNOW, IN OUR EXPERIENCE, WHEN YOU GET A LOT MORE DEMAND ON INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU HAVE YOUR STUDIES GOING ON ON YOUR UTILITY SYSTEM, AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT LOOKING AT HOW MUCH CAN WE ISSUE.
SO COLUMN THE SECOND COLUMN OVER AFTER FISCAL YEAR ON THE FAR LEFT HAND IS YOUR TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE THAT STARTED AT YOUR CERTIFIED VALUE FOR 2023, WHICH IS FISCAL YEAR 2024, WHICH WILL START NEXT WEEK.
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SHOWING DEBT.THE NEXT COLUMN IS CAPITAL LEASE, WHICH CURRENTLY IS ZERO, BUT THAT MAY CHANGE BEFORE THE YEAR END AND THEN WE GET TO NEW ISSUANCE.
SO FOR THIS YEAR, I HAVE YOU ALL SET AT THE ABILITY TO ISSUE 11 MILLION.
THAT WAS REALLY I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR CIP AND WHAT WAS IN IT.
BUT THAT GIVES YOU A STARTING POINT TO CONSIDER.
ABOUT WHERE THE MARKET IS RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT UNDER THAT FOR 20 YEAR DEBT.
WE'VE SEEN RATES BACK UP VERY HARD SINCE THE FED MEETING LAST WEEK.
THEY ARE THE MARKET IS PRICING IN ANOTHER QUARTER POINT.
AND THERE'S ALSO FEAR OF GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN COME THIS WEEKEND.
SO THE MARKET IS NOT HAPPY AT THE MOMENT.
A LITTLE DISGRUNTLED SO THAT 450 IS PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT WHERE WE MIGHT BE.
BUT I DON'T HAVE THIS ISSUANCE COMING TO MARKET UNTIL AUGUST.
RIGHT. WHEN YOU WOULD BE ABOUT AT THE POINT THAT YOU'D BE LOOKING TO SET A TAX RATE AGAIN, YOU'LL GET A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE OF VALUE NEAR LATE MAY VALUES HERE IN BRAZORIA COUNTY ARE USUALLY CERTIFIED IN LATE JULY.
SO BY THE TIME WE GET TO AUGUST, WE'LL KNOW WHAT OUR VALUE IS.
PROJECTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE DETERMINED THEN AS TO WHAT EXACTLY YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
SO THAT IS THE TIMING ON THIS PARTICULAR SCHEDULE THAT IN EACH OF THESE YEARS WE'RE LOOKING AT AN AUGUST ISSUE NOW GOING FORWARD AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS ISSUE.
ALL THAT I'VE GOT HERE, THAT CAPACITY THAT YOU SEE OF 2 MILLION TO 4 MILLION PER YEAR, THAT IS SIMPLY FROM THE GROWTH IN YOUR ASSESSED VALUE.
AND I'M TRYING TO HOLD YOUR TAX RATE RIGHT ABOUT $0.10, RIGHT? SO TO THE EXTENT YOU HAVE MORE GROWTH IN THAT OR TO THE EXTENT YOU HAVE PROJECTS THAT YOU PRIORITIZE HIGHER, THAT'S ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE.
I WOULD ALSO VENTURE TO SAY THAT WHILE I HAVE THESE ISSUES COMING EVERY YEAR, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE IF YOU WERE ON AN EVERY OTHER YEAR SCHEDULE UNLESS YOU HAVE NEEDS THAT EXCEED THAT. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN BUILD OUT IN THE COURSE OF A YEAR, RIGHT? SO YOU DON'T WANT TO OVERWHELM PUBLIC WORKS COMPLETELY.
CORRECT. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY FURTHER DIRECTION, ANY DIFFERENT PATH YOU GUYS MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
BUT THIS WAS MY FIRST CUT AT AT GETTING YOU SOMETHING TO TO SEE AND JUST START THE DISCUSSION.
I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FROM LAST YEAR.
I THINK IT WAS IT COULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AGAIN FOR THIS YEAR.
THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT AND BEGIN TO.
TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON HOW HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THESE THINGS WITH WITH CASH IF IT'S AVAILABLE OR PLAN FOR IT TO BE AVAILABLE? I WILL BE BACK BEFORE TOO LONG.
I'LL BE SPEAKING WITH ABC ON THEIR CAPACITY NEXT MONTH.
AND AS YOU ARE AWARE, IN THE PAST WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS ENTER AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT SO THAT THEY PAY YOU AND YOU GO OUT INTO THE MARKET SO THAT THEY CAN GET A BETTER RATE AND NOT HAVE
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TO DO SALES TAX, REVENUE, BONDS.I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
SO JUST TO RECAP, HE'S JOE SAYING 10 MILLION IN THE NEXT YEAR.
HE HAS 11 MILLION HERE 10 OR 11 INTEREST IN.
AND THEN ABC IS PROBABLY AT ABOUT 4 MILLION.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD HEAR THROUGH THE ABC CHANNELS.
SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING FAMILIAR, JOE.
I DO HAVE SOME THINGS FOR YOU.
I KNOW YOU'RE BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE 10% YEAR OVER YEAR GROWTH ON THE TAX RATE OR THE TAX VALUE WITH THE CHANGES IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN THE IN ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD SLOW THAT DOWN BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT IS BASED OFF VALUATION, NOT NECESSARILY GROWTH IN IN THE CITY. IT'S JUST BASED OFF VALUATION CHANGES.
I DON'T SEE THAT CHANGING OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, I GUESS.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, IF IT'S 15 TO 20%, WHICH HAS BEEN TRENDING TOWARDS THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, HOW MUCH WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT WOULD THAT DO ON THE INS RATE AS AN EFFECT? ABOUT A TWO CENT, THREE CENT CHANGE? BECAUSE WE'RE GOING FROM 6% IN GROWTH IS THE QUESTION.
HOW MUCH DOES THAT IMPACT YOUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE? YES. OKAY.
SO FROM $0.07 TO $0.10, I MIGHT MAYBE $0.02 OF IT.
MAYBE WE'RE IT LOOKS LIKE IF I JUST EYEBALL THIS, WE'RE GOING FROM.
1,000,000,785 TO 1,000,000,963.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT'S IT'S 200 MILLION IN VALUE, RIGHT? I'M DOING THIS RIGHT IN MY HEAD.
THAT'S ABOUT 200,000 PER PENNY.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT 2026, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT RIGHT.
THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM 24 TO 25 FISCAL YEAR GOING FROM 0.679 TO 10.1 IS ABOUT 3.33 PENNIES.
SO RIGHT ABOUT 200,000 PER PENNY.
SO AND THEN YOU HAVE THE 4.5% BUILT IN THROUGHOUT THE ALL THE DEBT ISSUANCES.
AND I KNOW THAT'S JUST BEING CONSERVATIVE AS WELL.
I THINK EVENTUALLY THEY SHOULD SLIDE A LITTLE BIT.
SO BOND RATING, I GUESS, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT IF WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR OR EVEN EVERY OTHER YEAR, AS YOU MENTIONED, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO OUR BOND RATING? DO WE GET PENALIZED FOR GOING OUT FOR DEBT MORE OFTEN? I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY DON'T GET PENALIZED FOR GOING OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE. YOU'RE YOU'RE TYING IT TO A GROWTH RATE SO YOUR DEBT TO AVE PERCENTAGE IS IS GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME. THERE'S A FEW KEY METRICS THAT THE RATING AGENCIES TEND TO FOCUS IN ON.
OKAY. YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, AS YOU GO INTO BEING A FASTER AND FASTER GROWTH CITY, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO BE A DOUBLE A RATED CITY.
OKAY. AND NOT NECESSARILY BE THINKING WE WANT TO BE TRIPLE A IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS BECAUSE.
THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU WILL FACE FROM MOBILITY TO PARKS TO UTILITY SIDE.
THEY ARE ALL GOING TO MOUNT UP VERY QUICKLY.
I HAVE SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE AND IT'S IT'S A TOUGH ONE.
SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE.
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DO WHAT YOU CAN WITH CASH EVERY EVERY YEAR AS YOU GO INTO YOUR BUDGET OR IN THIS CASE, AS YOU'RE COMING OUT.BE SURE THAT YOU'RE APPROACHING THINGS WITH A MULTI YEAR LOOK THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING JUST FOCUSED ON FISCAL 20, 23, 24.
I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT RIGHT FOR RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE TODAY ARE GOING TO IMPACT COUNCILS IN THE FUTURE.
JUST CARRY THAT THOUGHT WITH YOU.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? I GOT A COMMENT SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO EXPLAIN TO THE AUDIENCE HERE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT USING CASH TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY WHERE YOU'RE GENERATING THAT CASH FROM.
CASH IS IS A PAY AS YOU GO PLAN.
SO YOU EITHER YOU EITHER HAVE A PORTION OF YOUR BUDGET, WHICH IS PAY AS YOU GO, WHICH IS IN A SENSE, A DISCRETIONARY PORTION OF A BUDGET WITHIN A DEPARTMENT THAT IN THE EVENT YOU GET TO A CERTAIN POINT IN THE YEAR AND YOU SEE YOU'RE GOING TO BE OKAY AND NOT NEED TO GO OVER, YOU HAVE CASH THAT YOU CAN PULL DOWN AND USE ON PROJECTS.
IT ALSO CAN BE IN YEARS LIKE THIS WHERE HOPEFULLY THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT HAS EXPERIENCED A LITTLE BIT OF A WINDFALL WITH THE WATER SALES AND THAT YOUR SALES ARE ABOVE AVERAGE.
SO YOU'VE GENERATED A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY THAT AS YOU GO INTO A 20, 23, 24 YEAR, YOU CAN TAKE THAT SURPLUS AND APPLY IT TOWARDS PROJECTS THAT YOU OTHERWISE.
YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE OR OTHERWISE.
PROJECTS ARE A FUNCTION OF THE BUDGET EITHER BUILT IN IN FISCAL YEAR OR OR A USE OF SURPLUS AND OR FUND BALANCE AND FUND BALANCE.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CREDIT RATING.
IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE HAVING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF FUND BALANCE PROVIDES YOU FLEXIBILITY.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S THE PUSH PULL.
IT'S SITTING IN THE CHAIR THAT YOU ARE IN.
HOW MUCH IS A GOOD NEST EGG AND PROPER TO MAINTAIN AND HOW MUCH NEEDS TO BE PUT TO WORK FOR THE CITIZENS.
SO THAT'S THAT'S Y'ALL'S CALL.
TYPICALLY THE RATING AGENCIES WILL AND YOUR AUDITOR MAY SAY 90 DAYS BUT BEING A COASTAL COMMUNITY A LOT OF A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WILL HOLD A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THREE MONTHS BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIVED THROUGH.
THE STORMS. THANK YOU, JOE. THANK YOU.
I HAVE A COUPLE MORE THINGS REAL QUICK.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE WATER SIDE, SO ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND SIDE, WITH THE WATER RATES INCREASING, THIS DEBT SERVICE THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO HERE IS FOR THE GENERAL FUND ONLY, CORRECT? OR ARE YOU INCLUDING ANY BONDS OR DEBT SERVICE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ISSUED FROM THE WATER FUND? I AM NOT CONSIDERING THAT ANY OF THESE WOULD BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN GENERAL FUND PROJECTS.
AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY IS ON THE WATER SIDE? I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THAT, NO, SIR.
I WOULD SUGGEST FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD IN THE NEEDS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE A RATE STUDY.
OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS WHEN YOU GO OUT FOR DEBT.
THE LAST DEBT ISSUANCE YOU DID FOR A CITY.
HOW MANY HOW MANY APPLICANTS DID YOU GET OR INTERESTED PARTIES? OH GOSH, WE HAD QUITE A FEW.
WE DID DID A COMPETITIVE SALE THAT WE CLOSED TODAY FROM BELLEVUE ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AGO.
AND I THINK WE HAD 11 BIDDERS THAT SIGNED UP AND NINE THAT ACTUALLY SUBMITTED.
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THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. IT WAS IT WAS VERY GOOD.I APPRECIATE THIS SO MUCH, JOE.
CHRIS SO WE WANT TO TAKE THIS FORWARD FOR POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY FOR GENERAL FUND.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE TEXT TO GRANT THAT'S OUT THERE.
WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S $1 MILLION MATCH.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CONTINUING THE STREET BOND PROGRAM.
AND SO MAYBE IT'S THAT OPPORTUNITY TO JUST WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND SEE WHAT THE INTEREST IS TO TO MOVE THOSE THINGS FORWARD OR WHATEVER ELSE.
YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF WHERE WHERE WE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND WE HAVE A PLAN OUT SO LONG FOR MULTI YEARS TO SEE WHEN THINGS COULD ACTUALLY.
REALISTICALLY BE SHOVEL READY TO BE SPENT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE PLANNING ACCORDINGLY TO THE DOLLAR.
SO I AGREE WITH JOE ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT SAYS 11 MILLION IN THE FIRST YEAR.
MAYBE WE DON'T DO A FULL 11 MILLION IN THE FIRST YEAR WE DO SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THAT SAME SEPARATE CONVERSATION WITH THE APLC IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
YEAH, I DEFINITELY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL WITH PLAN PROJECTS AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS AND TOUGH DISCUSSIONS ON THE COUNCIL. WHAT WE WANT TO DO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE.
WE'VE GOT. WE PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE KNOW WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE.
IT'S COMING WHENEVER PEOPLE READ ABOUT OUR TAX RATE HIKE AND NOW WE CAN SHOW SOMETHING THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF HERE'S HOW YOUR MONEY IS BEING SPENT TO BENEFIT MOST EVERYONE, IF NOT EVERYONE ON THE SIDE OPERATIONS AND THEN THE INS. SO.
I'D RATHER I'D LIKE TO MOVE QUICKLY.
I'M NOT SAYING MAKE A RUSH DECISION.
I JUST WANT TO SEE THE DECISION.
EXCUSE ME? THE CONVERSATION TO BEGIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
I DON'T WANT TO WAIT. TILL NEXT YEAR.
BEFORE YOU BRING THIS TO US, I WANT US TO START.
SO, JOE, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON GOING FOR BONDS? YOUR RECOMMENDATION AGAIN, JOE SAID, AUGUST, I'VE GOT THIS RUN AS AUGUST, BUT.
THE TIMING FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS LIKE THIS REALLY GETS DOWN TO IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO PUT A PAYMENT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
IF NOT, THEN WE HAVE SOME CONSTRAINTS WE NEED TO WORK WITHIN.
SO I WOULD SAY IF YOU WANT TO MOVE.
WE WOULD BE TRYING TO COME TO MARKET IN LATE SECOND QUARTER LIKE THAT, MAYBE A MAY SALE IN JUNE, DELIVERY OF MONEY, AND THEN WE WOULD SCHEDULE OUR FIRST PAYMENT TO BE IN FEBRUARY.
NOW, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO, LET'S JUST PRETEND THAT EVERYTHING ELSE IS EQUAL EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A LONG FIRST COUPON, RIGHT? NOT SIX MONTHS LIKE I'M SHOWING HERE.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE 11 MILLION, WE'RE ABOUT 850,000 IN OUR FIRST PAYMENT.
WELL, IF WE SELL EARLIER, THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO THAT.
RIGHT. SO. SO THAT FIRST YEAR, 10.1, PENNIES MAY BE CLOSER TO 11, RIGHT? OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OVER 11.
RIGHT. SO SO THAT'S THAT'S THE IMPACT.
THE LONGER YOU WAIT, THE LESS INTEREST YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IN IN YOUR NEXT YEAR.
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NATURAL FIT.IT TIES IN WELL WITH THE TAX CYCLE AND YOUR EXISTING DEBT PAYMENTS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY MOVE SOONER OR REAL.
YOU KNOW, LANE THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN IS WE DON'T.
AND THAT JUST KEEPS THE FEDERAL TAX LAWYERS HAPPY.
SURE. SO MY IDEA IS, IS I JUST KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO GET TO A CONSENSUS.
AND I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME DISPUTE OR DISAGREEMENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT ON.
SO I'D RATHER START TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION SO WE CAN NARROW IT DOWN TO SOME SORT OF, IF NOT UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT, AT LEAST SOME AGREEMENT TO WHERE WE CAN MOVE.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EXPECTING US TO MOVE IN APRIL, BUT.
AT LEAST WE CAN START FINALIZING THOSE DETAILS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE SEEM TO.
OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES IN THE IDEAS CHANGE SO I DON'T KNOW.
I DEFINITELY THINK THE SOONER THE BETTER.
I'M NOT SURE WE WE TAKE OFF IN MAY WITH THE ISSUANCE BUT I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A WHILE TO GET THERE. I THINK THERE MAY BE 1 OR 2 THINGS THAT WE COULD PROBABLY ALL UNANIMOUSLY AGREE ON.
THERE'S A TIMELINE TO GET IT SHOVEL READY.
RIGHT. OKAY. SO SPEND SOME SMALL CHANGE UP FRONT AND THEN WHEN THE PROJECT HITS THE STREET, THEN YOU START WRITING BIGGER CHECKS. YES, CHRIS, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME BLOW THE DUST OFF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT PLAN AND PRIORITIZE THINGS, NOT JUST THROW A BUNCH OF PIXIE STICKS OUT THERE AND SAY, HERE, GRAB YOU SOME, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S AND REALISTICALLY TO YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR PLANNING AND AND LABELING THE DOLLARS SO THAT WHENEVER IT IS TIME TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT WE'RE NOT WASTING BECAUSE OF INFLATION WHAT WE BORROW YOU KNOW EXACTLY THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I EVERY TIME WE IT'S LIKE OH NOW THIS PROJECT IS 100 GRAND MORE.
AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE NOT A SOLID PLAN BUT SEMI SOLID SO THAT WE KNOW WHICH DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO SO THAT WE CAN USE THE MONEY TO ITS FULL EXTENT.
YEAH. AND THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE WANT TO START NOW BECAUSE I MEAN OTIS AND AND JEFF AND THOSE GUYS WILL TELL YOU HERE LATELY ALL THE PROJECTS WE'VE BEEN BIDDING OUT, WE'VE BEEN VERY FAVORABLE IN ON THE ROAD SIDE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE.
SO THE SOONER WE GO, THE BETTER OFF WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN SAVING A LOT OF THAT MONEY.
BEFORE IT WAS ALWAYS OVERAGE, OVERAGE, OVERAGE HERE LATELY IT'S BEEN UNDER UNDER UNDER.
THANK YOU, JOE. I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
[11. Update, discussion and possible action on the status of Lead Service Line Inventory by KSA Engineers.]
IS IT LEAD SERVICE OR LEAD LEAD? I DID SAY. RIGHT. OKAY, YOU GOT IT.SO, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ALL RIGHT. SO MY NAME IS ANGIE SANCHEZ.
WE HAVE AN OFFICE IN SUGARLAND.
AND THIS IS SO THIS IS ALSO KIND OF JUST AN UPDATE.
I HAVEN'T BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS IN A WHILE TO TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
SO THE MOST RECENT RULE IS THAT ALL WATER SYSTEMS MUST DEVELOP AN INVENTORY.
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AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS ON THE PUBLIC SIDE AND THE PRIVATE SIDE OF WHERE LEAD CONTAINING MATERIALS IN YOUR DRINKING WATER SYSTEMS EXIST.SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.
SO POTENTIAL SOURCES OF LEAD IN DRINKING WATER LEAD GOOSENECKS, WHICH YOU DON'T SEE THOSE ANYMORE.
THOSE ARE CIRCA 1960 AND EARLIER.
SO GALVANIZED PIPES ARE ALSO A CONCERN BECAUSE IF GALVANIZED PIPES ARE DOWNSTREAM OF A LEAD PIPE OR A LEAD CONTAINING PIPE OR MATERIAL, IT TENDS TO COLLECT IN THE GALVANIZED, AND THEN THE GALVANIZED PIPE CAN ACTUALLY BE A CONTRIBUTOR DOWN THE STREAM.
SO WE ALSO LOOK AT GALVANIZED PIPES, FIXTURES CONTAINING LEAD.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CHRIS AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EXTENSIVELY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT.
AND THEN COPPER PIPE WITH LEAD SOLDER.
SO YOU MAY HAVE A COPPER PIPE.
LOTS OF PEOPLE USE COPPER PIPE OR USE COPPER PIPE IN THEIR HOMES.
BUT THAT LEAD SOLDER YOU'RE INTRODUCING ANOTHER ANOTHER SOURCE OF.
SO CLASSIFICATION OF SERVICE LINES.
YOU GOT YOUR PUBLICLY OWNED SERVICE LINES, WHICH IS WHAT PUBLIC WORKS MAINTAINS RIGHT NOW, CUSTOMER OWNED SERVICE LINES, WHICH IS ANYTHING ON THEIR PRIVATE SIDE BEYOND THE METER AND THEN ON INTO THEIR HOMES.
AND THEN THE CLASSIFICATIONS, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, LED GALVANIZED COPPER NON LEAD AND UNKNOWN.
AND THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR WHEN I GET.
SO IN OUR CLASSIFICATIONS, THE OTHER THING THAT WE LOOKED AT AS WE WERE FILLING OUT THIS INVENTORY, OUR PHYSICAL LOCATION, WE ASKED IF CUSTOMERS HAVE THEIR INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT NUMBERS, THEY CAN POPULATE THE INVENTORY WITH THAT.
THE INSTALL DATE IF THEY KNOW THAT THEIR HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1950 AND THEY BOUGHT IT IN 2010 TEN AND ADDED THE PLUMBING SYSTEM AND REPLACED. WE WANT TO KNOW THAT SO WE CAN SAY, YEAH, IT WAS BUILT IN 1950, BUT WE KNOW IT'S BEEN REPLACED.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THERE. UH, LET'S SEE.
THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY THESE MATERIALS.
A LOT OF IT'S LABOR INTENSIVE.
THEY'RE REPLACING A METER, THEY'RE PUTTING IN A BACKFLOW PREVENTER.
SO THEY'RE OPENING UP THE BROWN ANYWAY.
HOWEVER, THE. SO HERE'S THE SERVICE LINE, MATERIAL CLASSIFICATION.
SO THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE REALLY TWO ANSWERS.
IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE LEAD GALVANIZED, REQUIRING REPLACEMENT OR UNKNOWN.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE SAY DON'T REPLACE IS THE NON LEAD CATEGORY THERE.
SO WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, IT'S EITHER LEAD NON LEAD AND THEN WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO REPLACE.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE INVENTORY LOOKS LIKE.
THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO T-C-E-Q.
SO WE'VE DEVELOPED SOME TOOLS.
I'VE WORKED WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND PUBLIC WORKS.
SO ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU SEE THE QR CODE THAT IS THE INVENTORY SHEET, ABOUT 13 QUESTIONS.
MOST OF THE INFORMATION YOUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO KNOW.
IF THEY DON'T KNOW, THAT'S OKAY, BUT THEY CAN.
THEIR BEST GUESS IS IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME BILL INSERTS FOR WATER, THE WATER BILLS.
I KNOW ONE THING YOU'VE BEEN DOING SOCIAL MEDIA BLAST FACEBOOK.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE DONE ANY TIKTOKS.
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FAVORITE OTHER OTHER POSTINGS AT PUBLIC FACILITIES POSTING THE WE MADE SOME POSTERS WHERE YOU CAN GO WITH AND SCAN THE QR CODE. WE DID THEM IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.SO THIS WAS THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PHASE IS THE SURVEY AND PARTNERING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO GET THEM TO ALSO FILL OUT THE SURVEY FOR THEIR SERVICE CALLS AND FROM THEIR RECORDS.
SO THERE'LL BE A REVIEW OF THE CITY RECORDS AND WE'LL WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THAT.
AND OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT PUBLIC NOTICES AND MEDIA BLAST.
SO WHEN I WAS HERE LAST TIME, I THINK WE HAD 18 MONTHS TO COMPLY.
SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 12 MONTHS TO COMPLY.
BUT WE'LL GET THERE. SO THIS IS JUST A KIND OF A WRAP UP OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.
WE MET WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND COMMUNICATIONS IN MARCH.
THE FIRST INSERT WENT OUT IN THE BILLS ON MARCH 30TH.
THE WEEK OF APRIL 3RD, POSTERS WERE HUNG IN PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND IN BACKUP.
AND ALL THOSE MEASURES THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON.
SO CURRENT RESULTS, WE HAVE 298 RESPONSES IN THE DATABASE.
275 ARE SINGLE FAMILY, 20 ARE COMMERCIAL AND THREE ARE MULTIFAMILY.
AND WHEN I SAY MULTIFAMILY, THAT'S ACTUALLY A RESIDENT THAT LIVES IN AN APARTMENT.
LOOK AHEAD. SO PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON IN THE NEXT 6 TO 10 MONTHS PROBABLY TO ENTER ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION.
ALSO, SOMETHING ELSE THAT MARTHA HAS REACHED OUT TO SOME OF THE LARGER COMMUNITY PARTNERS, LIKE THE ANGLETON SCHOOL DISTRICT CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND WE'RE OPENING THE DOOR TO ALLOW KASEY TO GO IN AND DO PRESENTATIONS TO GET THE WORD OUT, TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND WHY IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG IMPACT LONG TERM.
SO REALLY PUSHING TO GET THEM TO ANSWER THEIR SURVEYS.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT MUCH TIME JUST TO GATHER THE DATA.
SO NOW WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE GET THE RESULTS? SO YOU'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE EPA AFTER THE FLINT, MICHIGAN INCIDENT.
IT CAME VERY APPARENT THAT CHILDREN, YOUNGER CHILDREN, ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE EFFECTS OF LEAD AS WELL AS PEOPLE WITH COMPROMISED HEALTH CONDITIONS.
AND THEN IT'S NOT REALLY FUN FOLLOWING THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR ON THIS INFORMATION.
WE'LL NEED TO DEVELOP A WATER INFRASTRUCTURE MASTER PLAN AND WE'RE GOING TO POPULATE THAT WITH THE INVENTORY DATA SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT AREAS OF THE CITY NEED TO BE REPLACED AND HOW MUCH.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, DEVELOPING A BUDGET TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO COST.
SO NOW YOUR NEXT QUESTION IS WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? SO. THEY HAVE FUNDED $15 MILLION.
THAT'S GOING TO BE DISSEMINATED OVER FIVE YEARS.
OF COURSE, THE MONEY IN TEXAS IS GOING TO COME FROM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE YEAR BY YEAR THROUGH A PROJECT INFORMATION FORM THAT WE SUBMIT THROUGH TWB.
UM, AND THEIR OPTIONS ARE LOAN FUNDING THROUGH BANKS AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CITY CITY FUNDING.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR BEING QUICK.
DID I GO TOO FAST? NO, NO, NO.
CHRIS, YOU OWE ME 20 BUCKS IF YOU ALL GET OUT.
LOST AGAIN. OH, TRUST ME, HE DIDN'T GET OUT OF HERE BEFORE 905.
BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
IS THAT ALL BASED OFF OF OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT IS NOW? WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE LEAD, WHAT HOW MANY YEARS ARE YOU LOOKING AT? WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE? I GUESS BECAUSE YEARS OF REPLACEMENT.
YES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL KNOW ONCE WE KNOW.
RIGHT NOW, WE WE DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT OF REPLACEMENT THAT'S NEEDED.
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AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A CLASSIFICATION.WHAT DO YOU HAVE UNDERNEATH YOUR STREETS RIGHT NOW THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED? WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED ON THE METER AND FOR THE LONGEST TIME IT WAS THAT.
HOW DOES THE CITY REPLACE LEAD, LEAD PIPE OR LEAD CONTAINING MATERIALS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? WHILE THE EPA HAS COME DOWN WITH EVEN MORE? AND PART OF THAT FUNDING THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AT 15 BILLION ACTUALLY WILL REPLACE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY.
OKAY. SO THERE'LL BE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WE'LL WORK WITH LEGAL TO DO STANDARD AGREEMENT WITH A HOMEOWNER OR BUSINESS OWNER FOR THE CITY TO BE ON THEIR PROPERTY TO DO THAT REPLACEMENT.
BUT THAT FUNDING WILL ALL COME THROUGH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD LOANS OR CIP.
BUT AS FAR AS YOU'RE ASKING THE SIZE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO QUANTIFY.
WHAT'S OUR TIME, THOUGH? I MEAN, HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO GET ALL THIS DONE? SO THE SERVICE LINE INVENTORY HAS TO BE CERTIFIED TO THE TCF.
I BELIEVE THE DATE IS OCTOBER.
FOR. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHY WE STARTED SIX MONTHS.
SO WE HAVE TO BUY BY THAT DATE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE IT ALL REPLACED.
OR JUST SAY WE'VE IDENTIFIED EVERYTHING.
BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT TO REPLACE IT? SO ONCE WE CERTIFY, THEY GIVE US 30 DAYS, THEY GIVE THE CITY 30 DAYS TO NOTIFY ANY RESIDENTS THAT WE BELIEVE THERE'S LEAD CONTAINING MATERIALS.
AND THEN FROM THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO IT WILL BE A SET UP OF SOMETHING LIKE 20% PER YEAR.
THEY'RE STILL DEVELOPING THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT WITH A PERCENTAGE OVER, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OR SO.
FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT NOW, WE SHOULD BE TESTING IN SCHOOLS 20% OF SCHOOLS EACH YEAR OVER FIVE YEARS. SO THEY'LL COME OUT WITH SOMETHING SIMILAR OF HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO REPLACE ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS YEAR OVER YEAR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE PRIVATE SIDE FIRST FOR THE IMMEDIATE REPLACEMENTS AND STUFF.
I THINK THE FOCUS IS GOING TO BE SCHOOLS, DAYCARES, HOSPITALS FIRST, AND THEN I THINK THE NEXT PRIORITY IS GOING TO BE THOSE AREAS THAT WE KNOW HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND WE KNOW THERE'S LEAD IN THE SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WERE BUILT IN 2010.
AND THE RULE THAT WHAT MADE LEAD CONTAINING MATERIALS ILLEGAL WAS A RULE ENACTED BY CONGRESS IN 1986, AND IT SAID BY 1988, NO MORE LEAD CONTAINING MATERIALS PLACED IN DRINKING WATER SYSTEMS. OKAY. HAVE YOU GOTTEN ALL YOUR RESPONSES BACK FROM AISD, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? NO, SIR. HAVE WE CONTACTED ISD? THAT'S NEXT ON OUR LIST TO TO WORK WITH THEM.
THEY SHOULD GET YOU TO ANSWER PRETTY QUICK, I WOULD THINK.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE CONCERNED.
YES. THEY'RE EDUCATING ALL OF OUR CHILDREN.
AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT TO SCARE ANYBODY.
IT'S JUST TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE READY TO GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF.
AND IN ORDER TO MEET THAT, YOU GOT TO GET IN THERE AND REPLACE THESE ITEMS THAT CONTAIN LEAD.
OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A QUICK BREAK.
WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK IN AT 830.
WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK INTO SESSION AT 831.
I DON'T WANT A CUPCAKE FOR THAT.
[12. Update, discussion and possible action on the scope of work for the Investment Grade Audit contract with Schnieder Electric]
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. THANK YOU.COUNCIL. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME GOOD? I TOO, AM IN THE POSITION OF FOLLOWING THE FINANCIAL ADVISER, AND I'M BRINGING YOU THIS BIG PROJECT THIS EVENING.
BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU, WE'RE VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
BEFORE I ROLL INTO THAT, I REALLY WANT TO EXPRESS MY THANKS TO PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT, TO THE FINANCE OFFICE FOR THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH MY TEAM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCOVERY TO DO AND A LOT OF WORK TO TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO BACK IN SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THAT AND FOR THE CITY TEAM, BY THE WAY, FOR THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THERE, WE ENTERED INTO OUR INVESTMENT GRADE AUDIT AGREEMENT BACK IN MARCH, AND WE HAVE BEEN MEETING INTERNALLY EVERY WEEK SINCE THEN.
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MY TEAM HAS WE HAVE HAD THREE ON SITE MEETINGS WITH THE CITY TEAM AND WE'VE HAD TWO ADDITIONAL ON SITE VISITS WITH OUR TEAM TO COLLECT MORE DATA. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT GOING ON THERE.THE VERY FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAD WAS IN MAY AND THAT MEETING WAS OUR KICKOFF MEETING.
AND WHAT THAT MEETING WAS TO DO WAS TO GO BACK AND VISIT WHAT THE BUSINESS CASE SAID YOU HAD HERE AS FAR AS THE SAVINGS OPPORTUNITY AND TO ADDRESS FACILITY NEEDS.
SO IN THAT MEETING, WE LAID OUT THE CADENCE OF HOW WE WERE GOING TO ROLL AND THE WORK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO TOGETHER AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED, WHICH HAS MADE THIS SO MUCH EASIER FOR US.
THE 30% MEETING ALSO BROUGHT GO AND NO GO DECISIONS FROM THE CITY TEAM ON THE SCOPE THAT WAS ATTRACTIVE FOR THE CITY AND WHAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.
AND THEN IN JULY, WE BROUGHT THE 60% DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING THIS EVENING.
SO I WANT TO FIRST TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE ADDED ONE SLIDE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE CLEARER ON CONCEPT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT WE'LL HAVE HERE, WE'LL BE PROVIDED TO YOU AND THAT WE'VE ANIMATED SOME OF THIS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WORK.
HE LEADS THE TEAM THAT IS DESIGNING YOUR SCOPE OF WORK.
I ALSO HAVE BRIAN STOUT WITH ME, WHO IS MY SOLAR SPECIALIST.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THEY'RE HERE IN PERSON.
HOWEVER, MY COMPANY POLICY ON COVID IS NO TRAVEL.
BRIAN'S HAS COVID AND RYAN'S DAUGHTER HAS COVID.
SO THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO TRAVEL.
AND SO THEY'LL BE HERE TO ALSO WALK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THIS PRESENTATION.
SO, COLTON, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE AT THIS JUNCTURE.
I LISTENED CAREFULLY LAST WEEK TO THE SPECIAL MEETING AND THE TAX ASSESSMENT AND THE ANGST THAT YOU ALL WENT THROUGH, BUT YOU ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND THIS PROJECT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE PROOF POSITIVE OF NOT ONLY WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY, BUT WHAT'S COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR YOUR CITY.
SO ON THE LEFT, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE THAT ON YOUR SCREENS.
ON THE LEFT IS THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS CASE THAT WAS OFFERED TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON NOT ONLY IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, BUT BACK IN 2014. SO MOST OF THE WORK THAT HAD BEEN PROPOSED BACK THEN IS STILL IN THE PROPOSAL TODAY.
JUST WORK THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED IN THAT NEW BUSINESS CASE.
AND THE NEW IDEA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
THE CITY WAS ALSO INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT A MICROGRID AND POSSIBLY RENEWABLES FOR YOUR CITY.
THE EXCITING NEWS IN THERE IS IT'S EXTREMELY FORTUITOUS FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON BECAUSE THERE IS NOW A SOURCE TO HELP US WITH THE RENEWABLES PROJECT THAT CAN TREMENDOUSLY OFFSET THE COST OF YOUR PROJECT.
SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER AS WELL.
SO WE CAME BACK IN MAY, AS I SAID, OR EXCUSE ME, IN JUNE, WITH A 30% DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT WE BROUGHT HERE IN JULY IS THE 60%.
SO I HAVE A 60% GOING INTO THE MEETING IN THE CENTER AND I HAVE A 60% COMING OUT OF THE MEETING.
RIGHT. SO YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE MATRICES.
ON WHAT ACTUALLY CHANGED AS WE WORKED THROUGH THE 60% MEETING.
SO, BRIAN, I'VE GOT YOU HERE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THESE MATRICES TO HELP US UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT WHAT THE GRIDS ARE AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS.
I WILL TELL COUNCIL THAT THE GREEN POPULATED CELLS ARE WHAT'S STILL IN THE PROJECT TODAY, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO FIT BEST. WHAT'S IN YELLOW IS STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT OR IS STILL BEING VETTED AND WHAT IS RED HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PROJECT AND MOVED INTO AN INACTIVE COLUMN.
SO WHAT'S INACTIVE NOW DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT JUST MEANS IT'S NOT BEING RECOMMENDED FOR THIS PROJECT TODAY.
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SO, BRIAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? ARE YOU THERE? YOU TRY AGAIN? DID YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YAY! THERE YOU ARE. SO, COUNCIL, THIS IS BRIAN POTTINGER AND HE IS THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR YOUR FACILITIES.YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES.
OKAY, SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO TURN OFF YOUR SPEAKER, BRIAN.
IT DIDN'T. SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A DELAY.
I'VE GOT COLTON ADDRESSING THAT AT THE MOMENT, SO HANG TIGHT.
I IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE. YOU CAN TALK BAD ABOUT BRYAN RIGHT NOW.
YOU NEVER KNOW. WHAT'S THAT? I'M JOKING. I SAID YOU COULD TALK BAD ABOUT BRYAN, AND YOU NEVER KNOW.
OKAY. BRIAN, CAN YOU HEAR? YEAH. YEAH. I THINK YOU JUST HAD TO UNMUTE THE CITY OF ANGLETON ACCOUNT ON THE ZOOM.
YOU GUYS ARE GOOD NOW. THANKS.
CAN YOU GO BACK AND SHARE THE PRESENTATION ON THE ZOOM? THERE YOU GO. OKAY.
YEAH. SO, UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT PRETTY QUICK HERE.
SO BASICALLY ACROSS THE TOP OF THIS IS THE DIFFERENT SITES THAT WE INVESTIGATED.
AND THEN KIND OF AFTER WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, THE CITY HAD PURCHASED CITY HALL ANNEX.
SO THE MEASURES FOR THAT SITE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE REST OF THE SITES.
BUT WE'RE ALSO EVALUATING WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE CITY HALL ANNEX BUILDING AS WELL.
ACROSS THE STREET, WE LOOKED AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT STRICTLY FOR SOLAR INSTALLATION.
BUT THERE IS ONE MEASURE HERE IN THIS FACILITIES RELATIVE TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO THAT'S A PARK, THE SOCCER FIELDS.
DICKIE BATES UH, FREEDOM PARK VETERANS PARK.
MASTERSON AND THEN THE DOG PARK NEXT TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
SO AS YOU GO DOWN THE LIST IN THE ROWS, EACH ONE IS A DIFFERENT MEASURE.
WE'VE GOT INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR LED LIGHTING.
UH, WE LOOKED AT HVAC REPLACEMENTS AT MOST OF THE CITY BUILDINGS.
WE LOOKED AT SOMETHING CALLED HVAC ARMOR, WHICH IS REHABILITATION OF EXISTING HVAC UNITS, COIL CLEANING AND A COIL COATING TO MAKE THE UNITS MORE EFFICIENT, KIND OF BRING BRING THEM BACK TO LIFE.
WE LOOKED AT BUILDING ENVELOPE, WHICH IS BASICALLY DOOR SEALS FOR DOORS TO STOP HEATED OR COOLED AIR FROM ESCAPING THE BUILDING, SAVING ENERGY THERE, AS WELL AS WINDOW FILM AND INTERIOR WALL INSULATION FOR SOME BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T THAT WELL INSULATED.
UM, WE LOOKED AT CHLORINE GENERATION FOR THE POOLS AT THE REC CENTER.
THIS BASICALLY CONSISTS OF A SKID MOUNT, A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL GENERATE CHLORINE AND INJECT IT INTO THE WATER STREAM FOR THE POOL BASED ON SALT AND ELECTROLYSIS WOULD REPLACE THE CITY'S NEED FOR PURCHASING CHLORINE FROM A DISTRIBUTOR.
YOU'D BE ABLE TO MAKE YOUR OWN CHLORINE.
BUT THE CITY HAS ELECTED TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT ON THEIR OWN.
UM, WE LOOKED AT A COMPREHENSIVE BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEM FOR EACH OF THE CITY SITES THAT WOULD CONSIST OF A NETWORK, A WEB BASED PLATFORM TO LOOK AT EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, ADJUST SCHEDULES AND SET POINTS, TROUBLESHOOT, GET ALARMS ALL ALL REMOTELY SO THE HVAC TECHS OR FACILITY STAFF DOESN'T NEED TO DRIVE OUT TO EACH BUILDING TO CHANGE A THERMOSTAT SET POINT.
THEY CAN DO IT ALL REMOTELY FROM ONE INTERFACE.
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UM. TALK ABOUT RETRO COMMISSIONING FOR SOME HVAC UNITS THAT MAY NOT BE REPLACED.YOU KNOW, KIND OF RETUNING THE ECONOMIZERS FOR THOSE UNITS, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, OUR RENEWABLES, WE LOOKED AT SOLAR FOR THREE SITES, WHICH WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, AS WELL AS BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE AND BACKUP POWER FOR THE POLICE STATION AND THE REC CENTER AND THEN EV CHARGING FOR THE CITY'S FLEET VEHICLES AS WELL AS FOR THE PUBLIC AT THE REC CENTER OR AT CITY HALL.
BUT AS YOU GO DOWN THE SIDE OF THE LIST HERE, THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT MEASURES.
AS YOU GO ACROSS THE TOP, THAT'S THE DIFFERENT SITES WHERE THEY HAPPEN.
AND LIKE DEBORAH SAID, GREEN IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN OUR IN OUR SCOPE ON THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.
NOW, I WILL ADD ON THE EVE, THAT OPPORTUNITY CLOSED THIS YEAR.
I WORKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON IF WE WERE GOING TO APPROACH THAT GRANT OPPORTUNITY.
THE EV CHARGING IS ALSO A SUBSTANTIAL OFFER FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO COVER THOSE COSTS.
HOWEVER, DIVING DEEPER, THE GOVERNMENT REQUIRES THAT THE VENDOR PROVIDE 20% OF THE COST FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PROJECT. AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A LOT OF COMPANIES WILLING TO COME UP WITH 20% TO GIVE TO AN ENTITY TO UTILIZE THAT.
THEY WANT TO BRING EV TO CAMPUS BECAUSE THE STUDENTS HAVE THAT AND THEY ARE OFF A MAJOR HIGHWAY.
THE GRANT WILL PROVIDE DOLLARS BECAUSE OF THAT HIGHWAY.
WE HAVE DONE 20 MILLION PLUS DOLLARS WORK WITH THAT PARTICULAR CUSTOMER.
SO I CAN APPLY WE CAN APPLY FOR A 179 D TAX CREDIT.
SO IT'S A TAX CREDIT, WHICH MEANS THAT BELONGS TO US.
WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT TAX CREDIT.
NOW BACK TO THE CLIENT THAT SPENT THOSE DOLLARS TO NOW PUT IN THAT EV.
ONCE WE DO A PROJECT HERE, WE CAN DO THE SAME THING.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. BRIAN, CONTINUE.
SO ARE YOU READY TO ADVANCE SLIDE? YEAH, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
OKAY. SO THIS THIS IS THE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE CITY.
SO THE FIRST OPTION THAT'S BEING PROVIDED TO YOU HERE IS THE ALL SCOPE.
EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD FIND THAT WOULD FIT INTO A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS A 34 YEAR PAYBACK AND IS AT ABOUT $14 MILLION.
THE SECOND PROJECT IS THE OPTIMIZED PAYBACK PROJECT THAT HAS A 14 YEAR PAYBACK, AND IT'S AT ABOUT $7 MILLION, A LITTLE LESS THAN 7 MILLION.
THAT PROJECT INCLUDES EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE MAXIMIZE PROJECT LESS WHAT IS READ.
THAT PROJECT ALSO TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE FEDERAL GRANT SOLAR TAX CREDITS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT OFFSETTING THE COST OF YOUR PROJECT SUBSTANTIALLY.
THE THIRD OFFERING THERE IS THE MINIMUM PROJECT THAT'S AT $1.68 MILLION.
AND THE PAYBACK ON THAT, I BELIEVE, IS 18 YEARS.
SO THE STATE AFFORDS US 20 YEARS TO CASH FLOW PROJECTS.
MOST ALL 90% OF OUR PROJECTS ARE DONE THROUGH THIRD PARTY MUNICIPAL LEASES.
THE SMALLER PROJECT IS NOT THE OPTIMIZED PROJECT, AND AFTER OUR 60% CONVERSATION, THE CITY TEAM AND SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC RECOMMENDS THE OPTIMIZED PAYBACK BECAUSE OF THE INCENTIVES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU AND SO ON.
THOSE INCENTIVES, THE SOLAR INCENTIVE.
IT'S ODD THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN TAKE A TAX INCENTIVE WHEN THERE'S NOT TAXES PAID.
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BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWING A TAX INCENTIVE UNDER THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, INCENTIVE TAX CREDIT.AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT'S GOING TO PAY UP TO ABOUT 40% OF YOUR SOLAR PROJECT BACK TO THE CITY.
AND THEN ONCE THE SOLAR PROJECT IS UP AND RUNNING, YOU CAN MONETIZE THAT.
AND THE BENEFITS ON THAT ARE YET TO BE SEEN.
I KNOW BRIAN AND RYAN ARE GOING TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ONE THING HERE.
UM, WE'VE GOT KIND OF AN INTERESTING SITUATION WITH THE CITY IN THAT THE CITY MANAGER FORTUITOUSLY ENTERED INTO A TEN YEAR AGREEMENT WITH YOUR UTILITY, TXU, FOR A PRETTY LOW RATE FOR $0.04 PER KILOWATT HOUR FOR, YOU KNOW, LOCKED IN FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THE ENERGY SAVINGS A COUPLE OF WAYS ON THIS CHART.
YOU SEE IN THE FIRST COLUMN, IT HAS THE 2024 UTILITY SAVINGS, AND THOSE ARE THE SAVINGS BASED ON THE CURRENT RATE AND THE LAST YEAR'S BASELINE FOR UTILITY USE FOR THE BUILDINGS AND PARKS THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT THAT BASELINE ENERGY USE IS ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S GOING TO STAY PRETTY CONSTANT UNTIL THE TEN YEAR AGREEMENT ENDS IN 2030.
SO WE'VE CREATED ANOTHER COLUMN FOR 2031 ESTIMATED UTILITY SAVINGS.
AND BASED ON THE CURRENT TEN YEAR RATE WE GOT FROM TXU FOR 2023 ESCALATED UNTIL 2031, WE ESTIMATE THAT THE CITY'S BASELINE FOR THOSE SAME SITES WILL DOUBLE TO ABOUT $800,000 WHEN YOU HIT THE YEAR 2031.
AND SO WE'VE SHOWN IN THE SECOND COLUMN FOR THE 2031 UTILITY SAVINGS WHAT THE ESTIMATED SAVINGS WOULD BE AGAINST THAT NEW RATE WITH THE SAME BASELINE USAGE. SO YOU CAN SEE YOUR SAVINGS ESSENTIALLY DOUBLE ONCE YOU HIT 20, 31 AND BEYOND, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, THE THE CURRENT FAVORABLE RATE FOR UTILITY PURCHASE, THAT CONTRACT RUNS OUT IN 2030.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY YOU SEE TWO DIFFERENT COLUMNS FOR THE SAVINGS THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK.
NOPE, NOPE, NOPE. NOT. SO GO AHEAD, BRIAN.
SO HERE WE'VE GOT A SCOPE MAP.
SO WE'VE GOT A PICTURE THAT REPRESENTS EACH OF DIFFERENT SITES CITY HALL, REC CENTER, POLICE STATION, FIRE STATIONS, ONE, TWO AND THREE PARKS, ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO THE FIRST SCOPE ITEM IS IS MECHANICAL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH REPRESENTS HVAC UNIT REPLACEMENTS OR THE HVAC ARMOR, WHICH IS KIND OF REHABILITATION OF THE EXISTING UNITS. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT SYMBOL SHOWS UP NEXT TO THE CITY HALL, NEXT TO THE REC CENTER, NEXT TO THE POLICE STATION AND THE THREE FIRE STATIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT NEXT TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER BECAUSE WE DID PROPOSE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
BUT I THINK THERE WAS A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE STATE OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER, AND THERE'S SOME CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES THERE WITH REGARD TO THE HVAC EQUIPMENT. AND IT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT TO DO A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT FROM AN ENERGY SAVING STANDPOINT.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT WAS ONE OF THE MEASURES THAT ENDED UP GOING INTO THE RED AFTER THE 60% MEETING.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT SHOWN AS A MEASURE ON ON THIS SCOPE MAP HERE.
SO IF WE MOVE ON TO THE INDOOR LIGHTING.
YOU CAN SEE THAT'S AT MAJORITY OF THE SITES.
THE REASON WE DON'T SHOW THAT AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THAT THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR LIGHTING AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN CONVERTED TO LED, SO THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR LIGHTING RETROFITS.
MOVE ON TO THE OUTDOOR LIGHTING.
THERE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE EXTERIOR OUTDOOR LIGHTING AT ALL THE SAME SITES AS THE INDOOR LIGHTING.
PLUS, WE'VE ALSO GOT IT AT SIX OF THE PARK SITES THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT WERE KIND OF LISTED OFF ON THE MATRIX SLIDE BEFORE THAT.
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WE ALSO LOOKED AT SPORTS FIELD LIGHTING, BUT THAT DIDN'T TURN OUT TO BE COST EFFECTIVE WITH THE ENERGY SAVINGS, AND THAT WAS NOT IDENTIFIED AS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE CITY.SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE LED SPORTS FIELD LIGHTING SHOWN ON THIS MAP HERE.
I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE CHLORINE GENERATION.
SO AT THE REC CENTER, WE RECOMMENDED THE ONSITE CHLORINE GENERATION.
I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND THAT BEFORE.
I THINK PARKS AND REC WAS WAS PRETTY OPEN TO THE IDEA.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'VE PUT THIS MEASURE ON HOLD RECENTLY BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE PARKS AND REC MAY HAVE SOME PLANS FOR THE REC CENTER IN THE FUTURE AND THE AQUATICS AREA SPECIFICALLY.
UH, MOVING ON TO THE BUILDING AUTOMATION.
WE'VE GOT THAT AT ALL THE ALL THE CITY SITES, ANY SITE THAT HAS AIR CONDITIONING THAT WE LOOKED AT, WE'VE GOT IN THERE, UH, IN OUR SCOPE FOR THE UPGRADED BUILDING AUTOMATION WITH THE, YOU KNOW, INTERNET ENABLED THERMOSTATS BACK TO FRONT END.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS BUILDING ENVELOPE.
WE'VE GOT DOOR SEAL REPLACEMENTS THAT PRETTY MUCH ALL THE SITES.
KIND OF CUT DOWN ON SOME OF THE HEAT THAT'S GENERATED FROM THAT IN THE SUMMER.
AND THEN ALSO AT FIRE STATION ONE IN THE UPSTAIRS KIND OF COMMON TRAINING ROOM, MEETING ROOM BY THE KITCHEN AND SOME OF THOSE SMALL DORM ROOMS WITH THE BUNK BEDS. THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH INTERIOR INSULATION ON THE WALLS THERE OR ON THE OTHER UNDERSIDE OF THE ROOF.
SO THAT WAS AN AREA WHERE WE DECIDED TO PROPOSE SOME ADDED INSULATION.
AND THEN FINALLY THE SOLAR PANEL ARRAYS.
AND WE'VE GOT A CARPORT MOUNTED SOLAR PANEL ARRAYS PROPOSED FOR THE REC CENTER OVER THE REC CENTER PARKING LOT AT THE POLICE STATION, OVER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PARKING IN THE BACK OF THE POLICE STATION, KIND OF ADJACENT TO THE REC CENTER PARKING LOT.
AND SO WE'VE PROPOSED SOME GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR ARRAYS AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THAT? OKAY. CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? OKAY, SO IN GENERAL, UH, SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE NEW PROPOSED SOLAR ARRAYS.
UM, SO YOU'LL BE PROVIDING RENEWABLE POWER FOR THOSE THREE SITES FOR THE CITY, AND IT WILL ALSO REDUCE YOUR CONSUMPTION FROM THE LOCAL UTILITY, TEXAS TXU, AS WELL AS TEXAS NEW MEXICO POWER, WHICH IS WHERE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE POWER COMES FROM.
UH. REDUCE AND IT SHOULD BE SHOULD REDUCE THE CITY'S ENERGY BILL ACCORDINGLY.
NOW, ONE THING THAT WE NOTICED AS WE WERE RESEARCHING THE DIFFERENT RATE STRUCTURES FOR THE SOLAR IS THAT TXU HAS A BUYBACK PROGRAM FOR SOLAR POWER.
SO IF THERE'S A TIME DURING THE DAY WHERE IT'S REALLY SUNNY OUT, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LOAD IN THE BUILDING, AND THAT SYSTEM IS PRODUCING MORE POWER THAN THE BUILDING CAN USE, THE EXCESS POWER CAN GET EXPORTED BACK TO THE GRID AND TXU WILL BUY THAT POWER BACK.
AND WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF THE LAST 12 MONTHS OF THE HOURLY SPOT RATE THAT THEY PAID FOR GENERATED POWER, AND IT AVERAGED OUT TO ABOUT $0.10 A KILOWATT HOUR.
AND RIGHT NOW THE CITY IS PAYING ABOUT $0.04 A KILOWATT HOUR FOR POWER.
SO THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PRETTY FAVORABLE SITUATION FOR THE NEXT 6 OR 7 YEARS WHILE YOU GUYS ARE STILL IN THAT AGREEMENT WHERE YOU CAN MAKE SOME MONEY BY SELLING POWER BACK TO THE GRID IF THERE'S EXCESS GENERATION FROM FROM THE PV SYSTEM.
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SO IT WILL BE A NET REDUCTION TO THE CITY'S ENERGY SPEND FOR ELECTRICITY KIND OF CITYWIDE BASED ON THE REVENUE CREDIT FOR THE GENERATED POWER.AND THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, REDUCE WHAT THE CITY'S SPENDING FROM THEIR UTILITY BUDGET, WHICH MAYBE SOME OF THAT CAN BE USED TO OFFSET FUNDING FOR OTHER AREAS OR OTHER CITY PROJECTS THAT ARE A PRIORITY TO THE CITY.
UM, SO THIS, THIS MEASURE IS THE LARGEST ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND A LARGE PORTION OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE TAX CREDIT THAT DEBORAH WAS TALKING ABOUT.
INCENTIVES OR GRANT FUNDING UPWARDS OF 40 OR 50% ON A SOLAR PROJECT BEFORE.
AND SO THAT REALLY HELPS BUY THE WHOLE PROJECT DOWN AND MAKES MAKES IT ALL MAKES SENSE AND ENABLES THE CITY TO DO THESE OTHER FACILITIES, MEASURES THAT HELP ON, YOU KNOW, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AND OCCUPANT COMFORT THAT MAY NOT OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO BE DONE WHEN IT'S NOT BUNDLED WITH THE SOLAR PROJECT.
ANYTHING RELATED TO KIND OF THE GENERAL SOLAR BENEFITS.
YEAH, I WAS GOING TO JUST SAY YOUR, YOUR PLAN DOESN'T INCLUDE IT ONLY INCLUDES SELLING THE EXCESS BACK, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE STORING THE EXCESS, RIGHT? CORRECT. NOW, WE DID LOOK AT BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FOR THE REC CENTER KIND OF AS A RESILIENCY MEASURE TO KIND OF SUPPLEMENT, YOU KNOW, THE NEW GENERATOR THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING IN THERE AS WELL AS BATTERY STORAGE AT THE POLICE STATION.
BUT THE COST OF THOSE BATTERIES AND THAT SYSTEM WAS COST PROHIBITIVE COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF STORAGE THAT YOU WOULD GET FROM THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE BOTH THOSE SITES, THE POLICE STATION NOW DOES HAVE A GENERATOR.
AND I KNOW THE CITY HAS A GRANT IN TO PUT A GENERATOR AT THE THE REC CENTER.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, WE DID INVESTIGATE THE BATTERY STORAGE, BUT FINANCIALLY, FROM A PURELY FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE OR PAY BACK BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE BATTERIES. ALSO TO ASK YOU THIS, THE SOLAR PANELS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE, DOES THAT EVEN COVER 100% OF THE THE USAGE OR IS THAT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT IS IS IT? YOU'VE ASKED A GREAT QUESTION AND MAYBE WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND RYAN CAN TALK ABOUT THAT PERCENTAGE FOR EACH SITE.
THE SYSTEMS ARE SIZED FOR LESS THAN THE ANNUAL USE AT THE SITE.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND AT EACH SITE, THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE THE SYSTEM WILL OVERPRODUCE COMPARED TO THE LOADS IN THE BUILDING, LIKE ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS OR THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO, RYAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER, IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE REC CENTER INSTALLATION FIRST.
TYPICALLY THAT IS THE LAND USE OR THE GROUND OR THE AREA WHERE WE CAN PLACE THE PANELS AND THEN THE EXISTING SERVICE THAT IS THAT WE'LL BE INTERCONNECTING INTO AT THE FACILITY OR THE TRANSFORMER SIZE AND THE REC CENTER AND POLICE STATION.
WE WERE GIVEN A REALLY NICE ACTUALLY PARKING LOT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE CARPORT SOLUTIONS AT THE WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE WITH THE CARPORTS LIKE OUR LINEAR SQUARE FEET BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE TO INSTALL.
SO YOUR YOUR PARKING LOT HERE HAS VERY NICE LONG EAST WEST ROADS AND AS WELL AS THE DOUBLE PARKING SO WE CAN MAXIMIZE OUR LINEAR SQUARE FEET NORTH AND NORTH AND SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.
SO BY TAKING THIS WE WERE ABLE TO GET ABOUT A 70% OFFSET AT THE REC CENTER.
IF WE WERE TO GO LARGER, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A QUITE CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO IMPLEMENT A A NEW SWITCHGEAR AND NEW SERVICE AT THE AT THE REC CENTER ITSELF. SO AFTER RUNNING SEVERAL DIFFERENT ESTIMATE BUDGETING SCENARIOS, WE FOUND THAT JUST KEEPING AT THE EXISTING THE EXISTING SERVICE SIZE THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT THAT SYSTEM TO PERFORM AGAINST 70% OFFSET.
BUT LONG TERM, I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD SOLUTION FOR THE NEXT SLIDE.
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THE POLICE STATION IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 60% OFFSET WITH THAT LIMITING FACTOR.BUT THE NICE THING IS, IS WHAT WE CAN DO.
IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT KIND OF BRINGS IT TOGETHER.
SO IT GIVES US A BETTER ECONOMY OF SCALE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INSTALLATION PRICE.
FROM THE OUTSIDE, IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THREE LONG CONTINUOUS ROWS.
BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THE POWER FROM A PORTION OF ABOUT A THIRD OF THE THAT NORTHERN ROW.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TYING THAT INTO THE POLICE STATION AGAIN TO MEET THAT 60% OFFSET.
AND THEN THE REMAINING BALANCE WILL BE TIED INTO THE REC CENTER.
SO IT REALLY BRINGS WE'RE REALLY TAKING CARE OF TWO DIFFERENT FACILITIES HERE, BUT COMBINING OUR OUR ENGINEERING AND COMBINING OUR OUR INSTALLATION AND CONSTRUCTION TO KEEP THOSE PRICES LOW AND PROVIDE THE BEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THESE SITES.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
WE ARE AGAIN LOOKING AT THE LIMITING FACTORS.
THE LIMITING FACTOR ON THIS ONE IS LAND.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE SERVICE WAS WAS VERY LARGE HERE.
IF WE HAD MORE LAND, WE COULD PUT IN A MUCH BIGGER ARRAY.
SO WE ARE MAXIMIZING THE SITE, YOU KNOW, BY UTILIZING THE GROUND MOUNT SYSTEMS. AND WITH THAT, I CAN GO BACK TO BRIAN WITH ANY.
YEAH. YOU'RE PUTTING AN ARRAY OVER WHAT'S THERE NOW, JEFF? VECTOR. SIR.
AT THE SIR AT THE SEWER PLANT IN THAT SECTION.
THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT SECTION.
THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE SATELLITE.
IS THAT RIGHT, HECTOR? OKAY. WE CAN'T PUT IT OUTSIDE THE LEVEE TO THE SOUTH.
NO, I JUST SAW SOLAR PANELS OVER OVER STUFF AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, SO WHAT'S THERE NOW? CAN YOU JUST PUT IT ON A TOTEM POLE? ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS ALL I GOT.
OKAY. BRIAN. SO THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS ON THE SOLAR.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN MOVE TO THE.
YEAH, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, ON HOW WE SIZE THE SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY, LIKE RYAN SAID, BECAUSE OF THAT FAVORABLE ARRANGEMENT BETWEEN THE THE PURCHASE PRICE FOR POWER AND THE SELL PRICE FROM YOU KNOW, FROM GENERATION.
WE REALLY DID LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH COULD WE MAXIMIZE THESE SYSTEMS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
AND LIKE RYAN SAID, AFTER A FEW DIFFERENT ROUNDS OF ANALYSIS, WE ENDED UP AT, YOU KNOW, THE SIZES THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH KIND OF MAXIMIZES THE SYSTEM SIZE WHILE STAYING WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE UTILITY, THE SIZE OF THE UTILITY TRANSFORMER RIGHT AT EACH SITE.
I GUESS I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE SOLAR.
YOU TALK ABOUT HOW WE LOCKED IN A TEN YEAR RATE AND IT DOESN'T EXPIRE UNTIL 2030.
THE COST OF SOLAR IS STILL COMING DOWN.
I MEAN, EVERY YEAR IT COMES DOWN MORE AND MORE AS NEW TECHNOLOGY COMES ONLINE AND THEY LAST LONGER.
YOU KNOW. WHY WOULD IT BE IN ANGLETON'S BEST INTEREST NOW TO GO SOLAR THAN TO WAIT FIVE YEARS? SIX YEARS? WHAT'S THE IMPLEMENTATION TIME OF WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED US IN THOSE SCREENS? THAT'S WHAT, A YEAR? TWO YEARS? YEAH, A YEAR.
AND I THINK THIS TIME IN PARTICULAR, I THINK THERE'S THE, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL INFLATION REDUCTION ACT THAT THAT THAT TAX CREDIT THAT DEBORAH TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHERE YOU CAN GET 40% OR POSSIBLY EVEN 50% IF ANGLETON ENERGY COMMITTEE OFF THE PRICE OF THE SOLAR INSTALLATION. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY LIKE GETTING ALMOST HALF OF THAT BACK.
AND SO I THINK EVEN IF YOU WERE TO WAIT, YOU WOULDN'T SEE THE COST OF THAT GOING DOWN TO A LEVEL WHERE IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A BETTER PRICE THAN TRYING TO UTILIZE THIS CURRENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I JUST THINK I'LL GO AHEAD.
SO I'VE BEEN IN THE SOLAR INDUSTRY FOR 17 YEARS.
WE'VE SEEN PRETTY MUCH THE BOTTOM FROM A MATERIAL STANDPOINT IN 2016, 2017.
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SINCE THEN, REALLY, WE'VE SEEN MATERIAL PRICING.I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN ECONOMIES OF SCALE WITH PANEL MANUFACTURING AND PRODUCTION.
WITH THE EFFICIENCY INCREASES WE'RE NOT SEEING.
WE'RE SEEING ABOUT A HALF A PERCENT EVERY EIGHT TO 8 TO 9 MONTHS.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY SEEING NOW IS DUE TO THIS THE IRA AND THIS INCREASED FEDERAL INCENTIVES IS AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING IT IS LABOR PRICING INCREASING. LABOR PRICING TODAY COMPARED TO SIX MONTHS AGO IS 10 TO 15% MORE.
SO FROM A MATERIAL STANDPOINT, WE'RE NOT REALLY SEEING ANY REDUCTION.
THERE IS SOME FLUCTUATION, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A COUPLE PERCENTAGE POINTS IN FLUCTUATION, BUT WE'RE REALLY ACTUALLY SEEING THE PRICING, THE TOTAL PACKAGE PRICING OF THE INSTALLS IS IS ACTUALLY ON THE RISE.
I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT DURING THE SOLAR PROJECT NOW AND GETTING THE ARRAY UP AND RUNNING, YOU DO GET TO MONETIZE THE DOLLARS, BRING THAT BACK TO THE LOAN, EITHER PAY THAT LOAN OFF OR UTILIZE THOSE DOLLARS ELSEWHERE.
BUT THEN YOU ALSO GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR 4 TO 6 YEARS ISH.
LET'S JUST SAY FIVE TO GET THAT REVENUE GENERATION GOING FOR YOU SO YOU CAN SELL BACK TO THE UTILITY COMPANY AT AN ESTIMATED $0.10 PER KILOWATT WHERE YOU'RE BUYING IT RIGHT NOW AT FOUR.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE THAT REVENUE.
AND AS WE MENTIONED, THEY DON'T WRITE A CHECK TO YOU, BUT THEY DO CREDIT YOUR BILL.
WE ALSO HAVE THIS AS A BIDEN ADMINISTRATION INCENTIVE, WHICH IS WHY EV IS SO IMPORTANT.
CITIES ARE JUMPING IN ON THIS.
YOU'RE WANTING TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
THEY'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE OF THE INCENTIVE.
AND THEN ALSO, IF IT'S OVERSUBSCRIBED, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT WOULD BE THERE.
SO WE SEE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW.
IT WILL TAKE A YEAR TO 18 MONTHS TO GET THIS GOING.
AND DEFERMENT JUST MAKES IT MORE EXPENSIVE AND YOU LOSE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REVENUE GENERATION.
THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH SOLAR IN THE COMMUNITIES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THE REC CENTER, THOSE ARE CARPORTS.
I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
SO IT BRINGS TECHNOLOGY TO THE CITY.
YOU'RE WANTING TO GROW THE CITY.
THAT'LL BE HERE. WE'RE HOPING TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.
SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SO, BRIAN, DO YOU WANT TO FINISH THE LEFT SIDE THERE? YEAH. SO WE KIND OF JUST WENT THROUGH ALL THE BENEFITS OF THE SOLAR ARRAYS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, REDUCTION ON THE BILL BASED ON CONSUMPTION, THE CREDIT ON THE BILL FOR REVENUE GENERATION, YOU KNOW, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CURRENT TAX CREDIT AND, YOU KNOW, THE DISCREPANCY IN THE RATES BETWEEN BUY AND SELL FOR THE INDOOR OUTDOOR LIGHTING. LED LIGHTING, YOU'LL HAVE LESS MAINTENANCE FOR THE CITY STAFF, FEWER LIGHTING CHANGE OUTS AND BETTER QUALITY OF LIGHT FOR THE BUILDING OCCUPANTS AND ALSO CONSISTENT LIGHT.
SINCE WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND DOING A HOLISTIC CHANGE OUT FOR THESE BUILDINGS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN REPLACED OVER THE YEARS.
OTHERS ARE OLDER OR NEWER THAN THAN ADJACENT SPACES.
THIS WOULD BE A HOLISTIC CHANGE OUT.
SIMILARLY WITH THE BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEM, LESS WORK FOR THE MAINTENANCE STAFF IN UPDATING AND MAINTAINING SET POINTS, SCHEDULES FOR HVAC EQUIPMENT, AS WELL AS TROUBLESHOOTING AND ALARMS. AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH JOHN WAS JOHN WAS THE NEED FOR SUBSTANTIAL TRAINING ON THE NEW SYSTEM.
AND WE DEFINITELY HAVE THAT AS PART OF OUR OFFERING.
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WE OFFER TRAINING TO ALL THE CITY STAFF AT THE END OF THE PROJECT BEFORE THE CITY TAKES OVER OWNERSHIP OF THE AUTOMATION SYSTEM.AND WE ALSO VIDEOTAPE AND RECORD THAT TRAINING SO THAT WHEN ANY NEW STAFF COMES TO THE CITY, THEY HAVE THAT AS A RECORD TO GO BACK TO, TO LOOK AT TO TO BECOME TRAINED UP ON HOW TO USE THAT PARTICULAR SYSTEM.
THANK YOU, BRIAN. ALSO ON THE CITY EVENTS, WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL.
THAT IS ENERGY AWARENESS MONTH.
AND WE HAD PLANNED TO BRING THE ENERGY AWARENESS POP UPS CAMPAIGN TO YOU.
WE DO THAT IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
YOU DO HAVE SOME OF THAT OPPORTUNITY HERE, BUT WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND ON THAT.
YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE SECOND SLIDE WITH ALL THE OPTIONS OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE REBATES TO BE, WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT ON FOUR BY FIVE CHECKS AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND RELEASE PRESS RELEASES SO THAT FOLKS CAN SEE ALSO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
THE LEAD GRANT I WORKED WITH OR ATTEMPTED TO WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THEN ENDED UP WORKING WITH JOHN ON FRIDAY, I BELIEVE, TO GET THE GRANTS SENT IN.
WE ARE GOING TO BE HELPING YOU TO APPLY FOR THOSE.
I MENTIONED TO YOU WHEN I FIRST TOLD YOU ABOUT THE BUSINESS CASE THAT THE CITY OF CLUTE WAS GIVEN PROJECT OF THE YEAR FOR THEIR WASTEWATER PROJECT THAT WE DID WITH THEM IN TANDEM WITH HDR, AND THAT WAS HUGE RECOGNITION FOR THAT CITY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE PROJECT COSTS ARE OFFSET BY SAVINGS.
CERTAINLY THE INCENTIVES, CERTAINLY THE REVENUE GENERATION THAT'S THERE.
YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR TALKED ABOUT WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU.
IT'S NOT GOING TO STAY THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE RATE IS TO BORROW AT.
THE OPTIMIZED PROJECT IS THE ONE THAT'S RECOMMENDED.
AND MY JOB IS TO TELL YOU WHAT WE FOUND.
WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE BEST PROJECT FOR YOU.
IT IS YOUR PROJECT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF VETTING THE PROJECT THAT'S IN RED IS STILL HERE, AND THOSE ARE STILL THINGS WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT, AND PERHAPS THAT'S A PHASE TWO.
SO I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE MAYBE.
ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT'S NEXT? I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT I HAD THAT FINANCIAL WORKSHOP.
THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN FUND THIS PROJECT.
LABOR IS AVAILABLE AND WE CAN GET GOING RIGHT AWAY.
SO IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THIS PROJECT COULD STRETCH ITSELF OVER TO FISCAL YEARS FOR THE CITY.
AND SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION FOR FOR PHIL AND WE'LL WORK WITH HIM.
HE ACTUALLY TALKED WITH OUR LEGAL AND FINANCE SPECIALIST.
RIGHT. SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE BEHIND THIS.
COLTON. SO THIS WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
WE REALLY TRIED TO GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY BEING AT THE END OF THE EVENING.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
IF WE'RE NOT IN THIS ROOM, WE'RE ONLINE WATCHING.
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SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.IF YOU DON'T. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? SAY HI.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF SLIDES IN HERE THAT ARE THAT ARE ILLEGIBLE AND ARE TOO SMALL TO SEE UP HERE.
AND NEXT TIME WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL HAVE A PRINTED COPY NEXT TIME.
IS THAT THE PACKET? MAKE SURE WE CAN READ EVERYTHING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THE NEXT ONE.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THE NEXT ONE.
THANK YOU ALL THAT ARE ONLINE.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND BECAUSE WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AT SOME POINT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.
I'M GOING TO FLIP TO 14 BEFORE 13 BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
[14. Update and discussion on various Zoning setback requirements, introducing a number Text Amendments in various Zoning Districts. No action is required.]
FIRST UPDATE AND DISCUSSION ON VARIOUS ZONING SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, INTRODUCING A NUMBER OF TEXT AMENDMENTS IN VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS.OTIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE'LL START WITH THE TABLE THAT I ADDED.
SO NOT THAT ONE, BUT I THINK IT'S.
I THINK THIS ONE IS PRESET TO THE ORIGINAL.
SO THERE'S A TABLE THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS BLUE.
THAT BASICALLY SUMMARIZES THE TEXT AMENDMENT.
WHAT I'VE DONE IS TO UPDATE THE CONSOLE.
A NUMBER OF YOU AGREED THAT WE WOULD DO 35 FOOT AVERAGE ON THE FRONT YARD SETBACK INCREASE.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE STARTED RED LINING THE TEXT.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH LEGAL IN TERMS OF THE SECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE COORDINATED.
ONCE YOU CHANGE ONE SECTION, OF COURSE IT MIGHT AFFECT OTHERS, BUT IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT THIS TABLE DOES, IT SHOWS YOU WHAT I COLLECTED JUST FROM LISTENING TO YOU.
THE ONLY I THINK DISCREPANCY WAS ON THE SETBACKS ON THE SIDES.
SOME SAID YOU WERE OKAY WITH SEVEN AND A HALF.
STAFF IS SUGGESTING THE SEVEN AND A HALF ON THOSE SMALLER LOTS FROM 7.2 TO 6.32 SF FIVE.
YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE DECREASE IN THE SETBACK BEING THAT THOSE ARE YOUR SMALLER LOTS.
SO YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT WILL GO STRAIGHT INTO THE TEXT.
SO THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU TELL ME INCREASE THE SETBACK TO TEN FEET COMMON ON THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THE ONLY THING WE DIDN'T TOUCH, OF COURSE, WOULD BE THE DOWNTOWN AREA CBD DISTRICT IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT APPLY OR IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AREAS. WE LEFT THOSE AT 20FT, AS YOU SEE IN SOME OF THOSE DISTRICTS.
OTHER THAN THAT, SETBACKS ON THE SIDES AVERAGE AT 15FT.
ONE OTHER SUGGESTION, I WOULD SAY ON CORNER LOTS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
LET'S LOOK AT THEM HAVING TWO FRONT YARDS.
THAT WAY, IF THE DRIVEWAY FACES THE OTHER STREET, IT WOULD BE TREATED THE SAME WAY.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT AT THE 20FT ON THAT SIDE STREET, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
UM, THOSE ARE SORT OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT.
THAT WE NEED A LITTLE FEEDBACK OR DIRECTION ON WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
THE BUILDERS HAVE A COUPLE OF WORK SESSIONS IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.
BRING IT TO AN ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING IN NOVEMBER.
FIRST MEETING FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.
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BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL DECISION IN NOVEMBER.OKAY. WHAT IS THE CONSOLE? I'LL SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE SMALLER LOTS.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS WAS BROUGHT UP.
EXACTLY. TO INCREASE THE SETBACKS.
AND THEN SECOND OF ALL, THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO TELL YOU IS THAT THE MARKET DOESN'T DEMAND IT.
I DON'T THAT'S WHAT I WOULD EXPECT.
SO THOSE WERE INCREASED 35 ON THE FRONT.
ON THE SIDE, WE WERE BOUNCING BETWEEN SEVEN AND A HALF AND TEN FEET.
SO I NEED A LITTLE DIRECTION FROM YOU ON THAT IF I CAN GET A DECISION.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A UNIFORM TEN FEET.
THE REASON WHY THIS IS AN ISSUE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF 45 FOOT LOTS.
AND IF THE SETBACKS ON SMALLER OR SMALLER ON THE SMALLER LOTS, THEN.
WHAT'S THE INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO BUILD LARGER LOTS? I JUST THINK THAT YOU'RE CROWDING.
YEAH, AND THAT'S HOW I'VE ALWAYS FELT.
KIND OF CREATES. BUT YOU'RE ALSO MAKING THEM BUILD TWO STORY HOUSES.
TO GET IT WITHIN THAT LOT SIZE.
NOT NECESSARILY. WE CAN LIMIT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON A 45 FOOT LOT.
SO WE CAN MAKE THAT REQUIREMENT AS WELL.
WHAT IS COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? SO THOSE DISTRICTS COMMERCIAL OFFICE THERE ARE VERY SIMILAR TO DAYCARE SECURITY OFFICE TYPE DEVELOPMENT WITH A DAYCARE BE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THAT DISTRICT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE A PERMITTED USE.
USUALLY IT'S A SMALLER END PITCH, ROOF TYPE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE TYPICALLY.
AND ON MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE'RE TALKING APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
ARE WE TALKING SO MANY FEET BETWEEN THE UNITS? I MEAN, THIS DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE IN THAT WHAT I'M THINKING OF, THESE ARE JUST PROPERTY SETBACKS.
SO AS PART OF THE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS, THERE ARE SOME OTHER LAYERS THAT YOU DO NOT SEE ON THIS.
SO I DO NOT HAVE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IN HERE.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND AND I'M SURE THERE'S A REASON ON THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL.
WHY IS IT CREDIBLY DIFFERENT THAN EVERYBODY ELSE? YOU MEAN ON THE SFA? YEAH, TOWNHOMES? YEAH, THE TOWNHOMES. THOSE ARE YOUR ORIGINAL SETBACKS THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT CODE AND THERE ARE MUCH SMALLER LOTS ARE LIKE 2500FT² LOTS.
IF YOU WANT ME TO IMPOSE THE 35FT, I WILL.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, ABOUT 35FT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS NOT EVEN HALF OF WHAT.
IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE.
THAT'S THAT'S THE ORIGINAL, RIGHT? IT WAS 15. YES.
BUT THE ORIGINAL STANDARD LOT WAS A 25 FOOT STAMP MET.
YOU'RE MOVING TO A DIFFERENT DISTRICT.
I'M SORRY. MOVING TO LIKE, SAY, AN SIX, THREE, 6.3.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY 25 AND NOW IT'S 35.
RIGHT. ESSENTIALLY ADDITIONAL TEN FEET.
I DON'T I DON'T THINK THOSE SHOULD BE LEFT UNTOUCHED AND EVERYBODY ELSE SHOULD BE TOUCHED.
WELL, YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED ON THESE VARIOUS STYLES OF LOTS AND STUFF.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A REGULAR RESIDENTIAL LOT 60 FOOT, 70 FOOT, 80 FOOT LOT.
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THAT'S A DIFFERENT THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MAKEUP AND MAYBE EVEN I'M JUST STILL MAYBE EVEN THE PARKING IS THE PARKING WOULD DICTATE IT BACK.YEAH THAT'S YEAH THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE STILL THE PARKING PUSHING IT ONTO THE STREET.
YES, THAT'S TRUE. THEY MIGHT HAVE AN ALLEY OR SOMETHING.
YEAH. PARKING UNDERNEATH ME THAT IF EVERYBODY WAS FORCED TO PARK IN THE PARKING LOT, THEN YOU RUN IN THE SAME ISSUE PARKING BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SINGLE DRIVEWAYS UNLESS IT'S A TOWNHOUSE STYLE.
OKAY, THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF THERE WAS A REASON.
I WOULD ADVOCATE JUST DO AWAY WITH ANYTHING LESS THAN 50FT UNLESS YOU HAVE A SPOT DEVELOPMENT.
I CAN'T QUOTE. I CAN'T DEFINE A FEW.
BUT JUST. JUST. SAY, LOOK, WE GO A 50 FOOT LOT OR GO TO ANOTHER TOWN OR SOMETHING.
AND GIVEN THAT, LET'S JUST SAY A SF FIVE, IF YOU HAVE A 50 FOOT WIDE LOT.
AND THEN IMPOSE A 7.5FT ON EACH SIDE.
THAT MEANS YOUR STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE 35FT WIDE.
THAT'S. BRING A MOBILE HOME IN AND PARK IT THERE OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S THEIR CHOICE. I MEAN, TO ME.
I WANT TO FIND A WAY THAT THE CITY IS PROTECTED.
YOU HAVE THOSE SETBACKS AND THAT'S ON THE BUILDER.
IF THE BUILDER THINKS THEY CAN BUILD A HOUSE SHOTGUN STYLE AND SELL IT ON A 45 FOOT LOT.
IF IT GOT THROUGH AND PASSED, THAT'S ON THEM.
BUT WHAT'S THE ONE THAT MR. KING DID? THOSE ARE SHOTGUN HOUSES.
PRETTY MUCH THAT SAME STYLE CAN BE DONE AND THEY'RE SOLD.
I MEAN, IT'S UP TO EACH MARKET, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'RE ADVERTISING FOR.
I WOULD GO EVEN A STEP FURTHER, THOUGH, ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THOUGH, AND SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A 45 FOOT LOT, YOU HAVE THESE REQUIREMENTS ON THESE SETBACKS, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A22 BEDROOM HOUSE, NOT CRAM A FOUR BEDROOM TWO STORIES UP.
YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO IMPOSE THOSE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE CITY AND PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS AROUND US.
AND I AGREE WITH MR. BOOTH 100%.
NOTHING LESS THAN 50, BUT I WOULD EVEN SAY NOTHING LESS THAN 60, SINCE THAT'S BASED OFF OF AS WELL.
SO YEAH, THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT NECESSITATED THIS DISCUSSION.
I LIKE THE WAY Y'ALL DO IT, OTIS.
I LIKE I LIKE FOR US TO A HAVE A STANDARD.
I THINK STANDARDS ARE GOOD FOR EVERYONE.
SO SOMEBODY COMES INTO TOWN, THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
I LIKE THAT WE HAVE INFILL LOTS.
IT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
THERE IS ESSENTIALLY A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
OKAY. DO I MAKE I'M USING THE WORD VARIANCE BUT REZONE OKAY TO A A LOT THAT MAY MORE BE FIT TO THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.
YOU KNOW, AND AND WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE THE CHANCE TO AGAIN APPROVE THAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REZONING IS GOING TO GET APPROVED.
SO THAT TO ME FALLS IN LINE WITH WHAT MR. BOOTH IS SAYING IS, IS LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING LESS THAN 50.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T MAKE AN APPEAL.
BUT WE'RE NOT MASS PRODUCING THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE'S THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ACTUALLY EXIST AROUND ANGLETON NOW WE'VE BROUGHT IN THESE OTHER DEVELOPERS AND SO AND THERE'S STILL SOME THAT HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE IN PLACE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING.
BUT OTHER THAN TIME AND MONEY, WHENEVER THEY GET THE TIME AND MONEY TO INVEST.
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BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I AM ON THAT.IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SEVEN AND A HALF.
I'D RATHER DO EIGHT JUST ROUND THE WHOLE NUMBER.
THAT'S. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M HEARING SEEING, SO WE'LL REDLINE IT AT TEN AND LAST COLUMN.
THEY ARE BEING INCREASED AT 30FT ON MOST OF THE LOTS THAT YOU SEE THERE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THAT ARE ON THE MAJOR CORRIDORS THAT ARE DICTATING THOSE ROAD WIDTHS AND STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES.
WELL, LOOKS GOOD TO ME. SO WE WILL WORKSHOP THIS IN A MORE FEEDBACK.
OKAY. ALL WE'RE I'D LIKE FOR US TO I'D LIKE FOR US TO, TO THINK ABOUT ON ROADWAY WIDTHS.
HOUSEHOLDS NOWADAYS HAVE A LOT MORE CARS THAN WHEN A COUPLE OF US WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO DRIVE MOM'S CAR TO SCHOOL IF YOU'RE LUCKY, YOU KNOW.
BUT NOW EVERYBODY HAS A CAR, IT SEEMS LIKE.
AND I DON'T THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE IN THE BUSINESS OF.
OF BUILDING THESE LONG, SKINNY PARKING LOTS WHERE PEOPLE JUST FILL UP THE STREETS WITH CARS.
WELL, THAT MEANS LIMITING WHERE YOU CAN PARK ON THE STREET.
ARE LIMITING HOW MANY VEHICLES PER HOUSEHOLD OR SOMETHING CAN BE PARKED ON THE STREET.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE A TODAY, IF YOU HAVE A 28 FOOT WIDE STREET THAT'S BACK TO BACK, SO YOU HAVE 27FT OF PAVEMENT. YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE THREE NINE FOOT LANES.
THE OUTSIDE LANES ARE PARKED IN OR CAN BE WITH ONE LANE IN THE MIDDLE.
AND YOU BETTER HOPE SOMEBODY HALF A BLOCK DOWN THERE.
SO. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DESCRIBING MY STREET.
SO. SO THAT LEADS TO THE LAST ITEM IN THE EDITED COVER.
I ADDED SOME LANGUAGE WHERE I TOOK A SAMPLING FROM ANOTHER CITY ON THE CUL DE SAC.
THEY BASICALLY SAID THE PARKING WAS PROHIBITED AND THEY DEEMED THEM ALL A FIRE LANE.
I WANTED TO TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND FIRE IN TERMS OF THAT.
BUT HOWEVER, THAT'S JUST SIMPLE LANGUAGE.
SO THAT'S LIMITED IN TERMS OF TIMING.
THAT'S ONE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY SUGGESTION THERE.
YES, SIR, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
BUT I'M JUST KIND OF PRE-WARNING THAT BECOMES AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
AND THEN IN THE EXISTING SITUATIONS TRYING TO RETROFIT IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE.
SO WE NEED YOUR FEEDBACK ON IF YOU WANT US TO PURSUE THAT LANGUAGE WITH LEGAL, WE CAN PUSH IT TO THE WORKSHOP, GET SOME FEEDBACK, AND THEN MAYBE WHEN THE TEXT AMENDMENT COMES, YOU CAN SELECT THAT ONE ITEM IF YOU WANT TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
I'LL MENTION THIS IN THE PAST, BUT I'M AWARE OF A PLACE IN COLLEGE STATION.
AND IT'S ABOUT HALF OF THE RESIDENTS THERE ARE ARE COLLEGE STUDENTS.
AND THERE'S FOUR OR SO CARS PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY.
SO AND THAT FORCES US TO CLEAN OUT OUR GARAGES.
THERE ARE NO PARKING SIGNS ALL THE WAY DOWN BRYANT STREET.
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STREET SO IT SAID BUILD IT 31FT WIDE AND NO PARKING.SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH SIDE OF WILKINS, THEY ALL PARK ON THE OVER THE SIDEWALK.
WELL, LET'S JUST TELL THE STREET GETS FINISHED.
BUT YEAH, I THINK WE DEFINITELY.
WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ACCUMULATING ALL THIS INFORMATION SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THIS COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ARE YOU STANDING UP THERE? YEAH, I KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING.
[13. Discussion and possible action on a request to approve the development agreement for Mulberry Fields Subdivision, for 44 Single Family 44 lots, 2 reserves on 13.0044 acres, located on SH 35 and N. Walker St., East of Heritage Ln./Murray Ranch Rd.]
13.0044 ACRES LOCATED ON SOUTH HIGHWAY 35 AND NORTH WALKER STREET, EAST OF HERITAGE LANE AND MURRAY RANCH ROAD.AND FOR THOSE THAT HAVE CLICKED, IT CLICKED.
IT'S 41 LOTS IN MULBERRY FIELDS.
AND TONIGHT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONSIDERATION LEGAL AS WELL AS STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND IN SUMMARY BASICALLY WOULD OUTLINE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION CAPACITY MEMO FINDINGS, THE HOME ASSOCIATION HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION STIPULATIONS ON THE DEVELOPER.
WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE DEVELOPER.
HE AGREES WITH THE HERITAGE TREE ORDINANCE COMPLIANCE.
SO WE DO HAVE THE BEFORE AND AFTER TREE SURVEY PLANS AND WHAT HAVE YOU AS PART OF IT.
THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCESS.
THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.
WE HAVE THE LETTER OF NO OBJECTION LETTER FROM THE CITY ENGINEER.
WE'VE CLEARED ALL OF THE FINDINGS OF THOSE REVIEWS.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU FOR THE 41 LOTS ON THE 13.044 ACRES.
IN LIEU OF THAT LAST CONVERSATION.
WHAT DO WE HAVE? OUR SETBACKS BEING FOR THE STREET.
SO ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THE BUILDING LINE ON MOST OF THE LOTS, AS YOU SEE, ARE 20.
YES. REALLY? THAT'S CONCERNS ME.
DUE TO THE LOT DEATHS, THOSE KIND OF PREDATED ME.
BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE PREVIOUS MINUTES AND THE VIDEOS THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
I'M TALKING JUST ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SETBACKS BECAUSE IT SEEMS WEIRD.
NOT NOT EVEN BE AT THE TRADITIONAL STANDARD 25.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO DOWN TO 20.
OUR STANDARD IS 25, RIGHT? YEAH. IN A SIX POINT SETBACK FROM RIGHT AWAY, NOT PAVEMENT.
OKAY. SO BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE SIDEWALK.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING RIGHT AWAY OR THERE ARE SIDEWALKS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY? YES, SIR. I THOUGHT WHAT YOU PRESENTED TO US THE FIRST TIME WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ON THE SETBACKS AND ROAD WIDTHS AND EVERYTHING, OUR STANDARD WAS 25.
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YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.JUST LIKE, SEEMS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT STANDARDS OF MEASUREMENT.
BUILDING THE BUILDING 25FT BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, OR THAT I'M REFERRING TO ROAD WIDTH RIGHT NOW.
WHAT WAS OUR STANDARD THAT WAS ON THAT PAPER THAT DAY? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SETBACKS, WE WE WE PUT THE CURB AND ROAD WITH THE SIDE BECAUSE THIS IS STRICTLY THE PLAT THAT WILL SHOW YOU THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY FRONT PROPERTY LINE AND WHAT THOSE BUILDING LINES ARE.
NO, I'M NOT REFERRING TO THE PROPERTY.
I'M REFERRING TO THE ROAD RIGHT NOW.
THE ONLY THING I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IS THE ROAD.
THE ROAD WIDTH IS WHAT, 20FT? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? HOW WIDE ARE THE STREETS IN THIS SUBDIVISION? THE STREETS ARE THE 28.
YES, SIR. THEN THE SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, THOUGH, YOU'RE SAYING IS 20FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
FRONT LINE, WHICH IS THE RIGHT OF WAY? YES, SIR. THAT'S HOW FAR IS THAT OFF THE ROAD? WE'RE 15.
I DON'T HAVE THE PROFILE, BUT IT'S STANDARD 16FT.
RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH IS 60FT WIDE AND BACK TO BACK OF PAVEMENT IS 28.
SO IF I CAN SKETCH SOME OF THIS, IF YOU'VE GOT A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK THAT IS SITUATED FOUR FEET BEHIND THE CURVE, AND IF YOU HAVE A 25 FOOT BUILDING LINE THAT GIVES YOU 32FT FROM THE BASE OF THE BUILDING TO THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO I MEAN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE 25 FOOT SETBACK.
SO YOU GET YOUR BUILDING WILL BE 25FT BACK FROM YOUR PROPERTY LINE AND THERE'S A SEVEN FOOT SWATH BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY LINE AND THE HOUSE SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK.
PERFECT. I CAN'T READ THIS PLAT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOT 25 FOOT BUILDING LINES OR HOW WIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS.
I'M READING 20. CAN YOU GET RESOLUTION BETTER THAN THAT? NO, NO.
PIXELATED ON PAGE 108 HAS A BIT CLEARER PICTURE.
WELL, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A STREETLIGHT AT THE ENTRANCES OF BOTH ON 35 AND NORTH WALKER BECAUSE RIVERWOOD RANCH IS ENTIRELY TOO DARK ON THAT ENTRANCE AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HURT.
THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EASY TO SEE.
IS THAT A PROBLEM? THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
THANK YOU. BUT THE 20FT THAT WE WERE JUST MENTIONING, THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT OF 6.3.
YES. BUT KNOWING WE'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING THAT.
THIS ONE WON'T COMPLY TO THOSE NEW STANDARDS, BUT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND IS REFERRING TO.
I JUST WANT US TO MAKE SURE I'M JUST TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT.
IT'S BETTER, BUT IT AIN'T VERY GOOD.
SEE NOW, THIS IS A VARIETY OF SIZES.
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I MEAN, WHENEVER DEVELOPERS TYPICALLY COME TO US, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THERE'S VARIETIES.LIKE, NO, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SIZES.
BUT THIS HAS GOT QUITE A VARIANCE ON IT.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT SIZED LOTS, THAT'S FOR SURE.
YEAH. AND THE NEIGHBORS CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE BATTERY PARK BEHIND THEM.
JUST FYI, THE BATTERY PARK WAS THERE FIRST.
YEAH, IT CAME IN AFTER WE GOT OUR PRELIMINARY PLAN.
WHAT ABOUT THE JUST CURIOSITY? WHAT ABOUT SUGAR DALE? YEAH. NICOLETTE NICOLET DRIVE.
YOU KNOW, PERHAPS. BEING ONE IN THE SAME STREET.
SURPRISED COUNCILMAN BOOTH HASN'T MADE THAT COMMENT.
SOME OF THESE STREETS. SOMETIMES I WONDER IF DEVELOPERS ARE PLAYING WORD SCRABBLE TO GET THE NAMES.
I'M SURE THAT'S HOW MOST OF THEM HAVE COME AROUND.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD JUST MAKE IT SUGAR DALE AND NOT AND NICOLETTE? JUST CALL IT SUGAR DALE.
YOU JUST BASICALLY HAVE ONE OF THEM IS JUST SUGAR DALE.
THE OTHER STREET IS NICOLETTE.
YEAH, I'M SAYING THEY'RE ONE AND THE SAME.
IT'S KIND OF JUST CONTINUE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW. NICOLETTE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
IT'S A MIDDLE NAME. NOT EVERY EVERY NOW AND THEN.
THE. THE NAMING RULES JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE.
OKAY. I THINK WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHEN IT MAKES THE RIGHT TURN AND IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SPREAD, YOU KNOW, THEY ALLOWED A CHANGE, BUT WE CAN STANDARDIZE THAT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LOOP SYSTEM BE A CIRCLE, WE CAN MAKE THAT A STANDARD.
YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S ONLY LYNNWOOD CAN GO ACROSS.
MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR DISPATCH OR ANYBODY ELSE TO GET TO.
I THINK THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET FROM.
YEAH. THEY FACE THE OTHER DIRECTION.
YEAH. HE'S JUST SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN.
TAKE YOUR PICK. ONE OR THE OTHER.
WHICH ONE DO YOU GUYS LIKE? NO, YOU SAID IT'S YOUR DOG.
WE'LL CALL YOU. NOTHING'S RECORDED YET, SO WE CAN DO THAT.
ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER.
YEAH, NO PROBLEM. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS CONSIDERING TALKING ABOUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES WHENEVER YOU TALK ABOUT 13 ACRES DEVELOPMENT VERSUS SOME OF THESE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES.
SO I APPRECIATE LOOKING A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS AND UNDERSTANDING.
WHAT TO COME UP WITH A WATCH THAT WILL MEET ALL THE CRITERIA.
SOMETIMES. SO I DON'T LIKE ASKING FOR VARIANCES.
SOMETIMES WE'VE GOT A COUPLE LOTS THAT ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
COREY. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO COME UP TO THAT.
YOU GOT ANY MORE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? NOPE. THAT'S OKAY. COUNCIL DO I HAVE A MOTION? JUST A LAST MINUTE CLARIFICATION.
COREY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
YOU HAVE A FENCING PLAN ON HERE AND WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS THROUGH.
IT'S A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SIX FOOT PRIVACY.
AND THEN THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HELP OUT.
IT'S STILL A RIGHT HAND END ONLY.
RIGHT. ARE WE CHANGING? THERE IS A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND THEN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT'S APPROVAL.
THE ENGINEER IS HERE. CAN YOU VERIFY THAT, PLEASE? THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT ON.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S NOTED BECAUSE.
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SO I CAN SEE A LOT OF WRECKS RIGHT THERE.YOU SAY DEVELOPER FENCING, JUST CURIOSITY.
LET'S HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE LAYOUT THERE A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S A LITTLE FOGGY IN MY BRAIN THAT RESTRICTED RESERVE.
WHAT IS THAT, A SLEW? IS THAT A DETENTION POND? IS THAT ESSENTIALLY A DETENTION POND? YES. I'M UP TO MY MICROPHONE.
YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE DETENTION POND.
WHENEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO RESTRICT IT TO DETENTION.
OKAY. JUST. AND YOU'LL HAVE A FENCE THERE.
A LOT OF THAT'S PREEXISTING FENCE DUE TO THE CELL TOWER.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS OR EXCEEDS WHATEVER WHATEVER WE NEED TO TO TO SECURE THE THE DETENTION POND AND MAKE SURE THAT'S IT'S, AGAIN, SAFE. DO YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OF HOW YOUR DESIGN IS? YEAH, WE'VE GOT THAT.
OKAY. DID I MISS IT? THINK THAT WAS JUST AN ISSUE OF WORDING OR SOMETHING.
WE WERE JUST OUT EARLIER TODAY AS FAR AS THE FENCE PLAN.
RIGHT. WE CAN HAVE HIM REVISE THIS.
THE LABEL, THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE, NUMBER ONE, AND THE FACT THAT IT IS A WOOD.
BUT THIS PLAN COULD BE MODIFIED JUST WITH THAT LABEL.
COREY, STAY UP THERE BECAUSE I'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.
THE THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THE HOMEOWNER FENCING.
YOU HAVE IT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE GOING DOWN NORTH.
YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE THAT I'VE SEEN ALREADY AND I'M REALLY STARTING TO GET WORRIED ABOUT IS THESE THESE HOA'S THAT ARE COMING IN, NOT MAINTAINING THE OUTER VIEW OF THE SUBDIVISION.
THAT'S A HOMEOWNER NOW AND MOST LIKELY A WOOD FENCE AND FIRST STORM THAT COMES THROUGH.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD PREFER THAT THAT WOULD BE THE SUBDIVISIONS FENCE, NOT THE HOMEOWNER ON THE NORTH.
HOMEOWNER ALL DAY LONG BECAUSE THAT'S BETWEEN ANOTHER LOT AND ANOTHER PROPERTY BUT FACING SAME PROBLEM WE HAVE ON RANCHO, SAME THING. I'M REALLY WORRIED THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON RIVERWOOD RANCH AND SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES IS WHERE YOU HAVE FENCING THAT IS ALONG A ROAD.
NO, I CAN COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
IT LOOKS LIKE I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY ONLY TALKING ABOUT ONE PROPERTY.
IT WOULD BE JUST THAT THAT ONE STRETCH OF ABOUT 100FT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL I'LL STILL BE ON THE HOA.
WE INTEND ON BUILDING THIS OURSELVES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WE CAN WORK THROUGH.
IF YOU WANT AN HOA TO MAINTAIN IT, THEN HOA CAN MAINTAIN IT.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING. OTIS, FOR THE FUTURE THAT I WOULD LIKE THAT ANY DEVELOPER COMING IN, ANY FRONTAGE, ROAD FENCING IS MAINTAINED BY AN HOA, NOT HOMEOWNER.
OKAY. YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, JOHN, YOU CAN'T HAVE SHOWS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE NEGLIGENT THAN OTHERS.
YEAH, MINE IS PROBABLY A BAD EXAMPLE.
I'VE SEEN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE.
OR SOME DON'T EVEN HAVE A FENCE ANYMORE AT ALL.
ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL. WHERE I MOVE.
WE APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR MULBERRY FIELDS SUBDIVISION AS PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THAT PENDING LEGAL REVIEW AND ALL THESE OTHER STEPS? YES. SHE'LL PROVIDE THE FINAL DRAFT FOR SIGNATURE AND EXECUTION AND THEN WE'LL GET IT RECORDED THEREAFTER.
OKAY. WELL, THAT INCLUDES SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TONIGHT, LIKE THE MAYOR'S.
AND ANYTHING LIKE THE FENCING PLAN IS AN EXHIBIT.
IT'LL BE ATTACHED BEFORE HE SIGNS IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS.
[15. Discussion and possible action to approve the Angleton Independent School District Elementary No. 7 and Junior High No. 2 Final Plat.]
NUMBER TWO, FINAL PLAT.THANK YOU. I AM FLIPPING HUNDREDS OF PAGES.
THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT FOR ANGLETON ISD ELEMENTARY NUMBER SEVEN AND JUNIOR HIGH NUMBER TWO.
THE FINAL PLAT WE HAVE OF COURSE, HAD THE ENGINEER CITY ENGINEER TO REVIEW THE PLAT IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE ISSUES AND COMMENTS ORIGINALLY THAT WENT PRIOR TO PLANNING COMMISSION WERE CLEARED BY THE ENGINEERING OF ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLAT. STAFF AND THE CITY ENGINEER ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL BASED ON THE CONDITION REMAINING FOR THE REFERRAL AGENCIES DEALING WITH THE DRAINAGE AS WELL AS THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT MANIPULATIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CONNECTION TO 521.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID ENTERTAIN THIS PLAT ON SEPTEMBER THE 19TH AND IS FORWARDING IT TO THE CONSOLE FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION IN ACTION.
AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS REPRESENTED TONIGHT BY TIM RASHAD.
THEY'RE GETTING SOME LEEWAY IN TERMS OF HOPEFULLY A FINAL APPROVAL ON THIS.
I DO UNDERSTAND THEY'RE GOING TO SOMEHOW DIVIDE THE DRAINAGE PLAN INTO TWO DIFFERENT AREAS, OF WHICH THIS WOULD BE A PART OF THAT FIRST AREA OF REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THEY'VE BEEN MEETING ON THE REGULAR.
WE TRY TO GET AS MANY UPDATES AS WE CAN FROM THE TEAM.
OKAY. WHAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE? THINK SO. SO OUR SCHEDULE IS ONCE WE GET PERMITS FROM THE COUNTY TO START RIGHT AWAY, OUR GAME PLAN IS TO START MOBILIZING NOVEMBER THIS YEAR.
OPENING DAY SCHOOL YEAR 25 FIVE.
YEAH. IT JUST WORRIES ME THAT WE'RE MOVING FAST ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SIDE, AND I'M NOT.
EVERYTHING'S APPROVED OVER THERE YET.
AND, I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? OTIS? I MEAN.
I MEAN, WE CAN APPROVE THE SCHOOL TO BUILD AND EVERYTHING, BUT IF ASHLAND DOESN'T HAVE THEIR DRAINAGE APPROVALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHY? HOW DOES THIS WORK? CORRECT. SO, NO, NO DIRT, NO CONSTRUCTION WILL OCCUR UNTIL WE GET THOSE SIGN OFFS.
AND THAT'S HOW WE WILL MANAGE IT.
AND THE PERMITS WON'T GET ISSUED UNTIL THEY HAVE THAT FINAL APPROVAL.
OKAY. SO OUR PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY FOR PERMITS AND TO THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL, AGAIN, PENDING APPROVAL OF THE DRAINAGE PLAN.
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT PHASING THE DRAINAGE PLAN.
THEY HAVE KIND OF PRESENTED TO US WHAT THE GAME PLAN IS TO HAVE OUR PROPERTY PHASED.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
I THOUGHT WE MOVED ALL THAT INTO OUR ETJ.
SO IT DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY.
THE DRAINAGE. THE DRAINAGE DOES.
AND THIS IS A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL.
SO THE REFERRAL AGENCIES, WHICH ARE BEYOND OUR AUTHORITY, WILL FOLLOW THESE PLATS.
YOUR DECISION IS CONDITIONED UPON THAT HAPPENING.
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SO JUST MAKE MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS HERE REGARDING THE INFORMATION THAT'S ON THIS PLAT ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL'S PROPERTY HERE ON THE SOUTH, EAST, SOUTH, WEST, SOUTH, EAST AND NORTH AND EAST SIDE.THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO BE PROPOSED ROADS.
WELL. LET'S INDICATE THAT ON THE PLAT.
LET LET LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PROPOSED ROADS OUT HERE.
THEY'RE NOT SHOWN ON THE PLAT BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO.
BUT HE'S JUST BEEN ON THE PLATE ITSELF.
THE RIGHT ON THE STREET, RIGHT OF WAYS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A DRAFTING EXERCISE.
IT IS. I THINK THAT THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, HE'S JUST EXPLAINING IT'S ABOUT OTHERS.
THE DEVELOPER THERE'S A PLAT IS PREPARED BY THIS WEST BELT SURVEYING COMPANY ASKED THEM TO PUT THE PROPOSED ROADS ON THERE AND I AGREE WITH YOU I'M AGREEING WITH YOU THAT THAT'S A POINT OF REFERENCE.
IT'S JUST REFERENCING THOSE OTHER STREET DEDICATION RIGHT OF WAYS THERE.
ON THE OTHER PLANS FOR THIS POINT, IT'S A NOTE.
THE POINT IN THE LETTER FROM THE ACTORS LETTER YES STATES THAT THE PLOT IS SIGNED BY A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL LAND SURVEYOR. IT IS NOT.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A NOTE IN THE SIGNATURE BLOCK.
THIS PLANT SHOULD NOT BE RECORDED FOR ANY PURPOSE.
THE LETTER IS SAYING THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT CORRECTED.
YOU GOT THAT? IF YOU DON'T GOT IT, DON'T SAY IT.
YEAH, WE'LL LET THE CITY ENGINEER KNOW.
IT'S NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S FAULT.
IT'S JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
FINAL PLANS. FINAL PLANS? SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR APPROVAL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU STICKING AROUND TILL 10:00 TONIGHT.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT, MR. EDWARDS, THEY DON'T PAY YOU ENOUGH.
[16. Discussion and possible action to approve Ashland Section Three Preliminary Plat.]
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.YOU HAVE A SERIES OF PLATS HERE.
THIS IS SECTION THREE OF ASHLAND.
IT IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT CONSIDERING 75 LOTS, FOUR BLOCKS, EIGHT RESERVES.
SECTION THREE WAS ENTERTAINED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE 19TH.
UNFORTUNATELY, WITH FOUR MEMBERS, WE ONLY HAD A 2 TO 2 VOTE.
SO THE MEASURE DID FAIL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A MAJORITY FOUR VOTES APPROVING THE PLAT.
SO THAT'S JUST BEING FORWARDED TO YOU.
WE HAVE THE RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS BEFORE YOU FOR SECTION THREE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT MAJORITY 55 FOOT LOTS.
THERE ARE 45 OF THOSE WITH 30, 60 FOOT LOTS.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE INVENTORY AND WE'RE WORKING WITH CAITLIN, WITH THE ENGINEERING TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, WHEN THEY SUBMIT THESE PLATS, WE'LL HAVE A RUNNING TOTAL FOR THE COUNCIL FOR EACH PHASE, BUT WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOT OVER EXCEED WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE DA.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.
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WELL. DO.IS THE FIGURES THAT ARE LISTED.
IS THAT OUR RUNNING TOTAL? THAT IS NOT A RUNNING TOTAL BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND. IS THERE ANYWHERE WHERE WE KEEP A RUNNING TOTAL? YES, SIR. I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY OF IT.
AND I KNOW IT'S FOR PIECEMEALING IT.
RIGHT. ONE AT A TIME OR ONE SECTION AT A TIME.
THANKS. YOU READ MY MIND? I HAD TO DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK FOR YOU.
BUT THIS IS JUST COLLECTIVELY DONE BY STAFF AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK THESE.
BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
IF EVERYTHING IS CONSIDERED TODAY, THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD BE.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY.
THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT. BUT, I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT I KNOW.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT AND THAT IT'S JUST BEING FOLLOWED.
THAT'S ALL. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO LAY EYES ON IT AND MAKE SURE THAT'S BEING DONE.
THANK YOU FOR DOUBLE CHECKING AND GETTING IT.
THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.
COUNCIL. DO I HAVE A MOTION? YEAH, LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE.
AND THIS IS CONTINGENT UPON THOSE CONDITIONS THAT THE REFERRAL AGENCIES FOLLOWING THIS PLAN AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, AND THAT WOULD BE THE FURTHER DRAINAGE IN THE COUNTY CONTINGENT UPON THEIR APPROVALS.
YES, SIR. RIGHT. AND SO THE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACTION SECTION THREE PRELIMINARY PLAT WITH THE CONTINGENCY THAT THE OTHER ENTITIES APPROVE.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL FOR APPROVAL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OTIS, I WAS READING IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS AND THAT PLANNING AND ZONING. IT SAYS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT THE COMMISSION SHALL ADOPT FINDINGS OF FACT FOR RECOMMENDATION TO DENY A PLAT PLAT WAS DENIED BY THE ZONING, PLANNING AND ZONING.
IS THERE? OTHER FINDINGS OF FACT TO DENY THE.
POLITE. THEY DID GIVE US REASON.
AND THE REASON WAS THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOT.
THAT WAS THE ONLY THING WE GOT.
THOSE ARE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR DENIAL OF THE PLANT.
THAT WAS THE REASON FOR DENIAL.
AND ALSO IT DID NOT HAVE THE THE CORRECTIONS DONE ON THE PLOTS EITHER.
I'M READING A LITTLE. MAYBE I'M READING TOO MUCH INTO THE MEETING.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME CONVERSATION.
WHERE WE'RE. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT OBVIOUSLY LOT SIZES BUT THE MIX AND THAT'S WHY I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT EVEN THEY SEE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN LOBBY ANY OR LOB ANY OBJECTION.
AND I WILL SAY THIS WAS DONE TODAY, SO I APOLOGIZE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE IT EARLIER, BUT IT TAKES A LITTLE TIME TO TRACK IT.
BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE WE PRESENT.
NO, I GET IT. SOMEBODY COULD ALWAYS LOB A PROTEST.
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OBJECTION. YES, SIR.THEY CERTAINLY CERTAINLY CAN VOICE THEIR OPINION, BUT.
IT'S NOT. SO WE'LL JUST ASK THAT THEY STATE THE FACTS.
OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION CARRIES FIVE ONE.
I'VE NUMBER 17 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ASHLAND'S SECTION FOUR PRELIMINARY PLAT.
[17. Discussion and possible action to approve Ashland Section Four Preliminary Plat.]
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.THERE WERE A MAJORITY IN SECTION FOUR MAJORITY 50 FOOT LOTS, WHICH WAS A CONCERN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. BUT YOU SEE THE MIX.
THERE ARE 63, 50 FOOT LOT, 1750 FIVE FOOT LOTS, EIGHT 60FT LOTS.
IN SECTION FOUR, THE SAME STIPULATED CONDITION OF THE REFERRAL AGENCY WOULD FOLLOW THIS PARTICULAR PLAT AND IT'S BEING RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THAT WAS ALSO A 2 TO 2 VOTE WITH THE SAME PARAMETERS.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN CLEARED AND WE DO HAVE A COPY OF THE CORRECTED PLAT AND THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE LETTER IS UPDATED TO NOT REFLECT THE SIGNATURES WHICH WILL COME LATER IN THE PROCESS AS.
SO. YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS JUST MAKE AN OBJECTION, WHICH I THINK I DID BACK IN THE DAY.
BUT THAT'S SORT OF PAST THAT POINT.
AND SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR APPROVAL.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M VERY CLEAR JUST BECAUSE I'M VOTING FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU MADE ANY OBJECTIONS IN THE PAST, SO A LOT SIZES AT ALL.
HEY, FOR THE RECORD, YOU'D BE SURPRISED WHAT THE FACTS WILL PULL OUT OF OUR MEETING TODAY.
COUNCIL BOUNCE. SAME COMMENTS, SIR.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? A51 AGAIN.
ITEM NUMBER 18. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ASHLAND, SECTION FIVE PRELIMINARY PLAT.
[18. Discussion and possible action to approve Ashland Section Five Preliminary Plat.]
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SECTION FIVE.
THIS ITEM WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SECTION FIVE, AS YOU SEE THERE.
TOTAL OF 102 LOTS, MAJORITY 50 FOOT LOTS, TEN OF THE 55 FOOT LOTS AND 11 OF THE 60.
THESE ARE ALL IN THE SAME AREA IN THE VICINITY OF THE ASHLAND PLAN.
IT'S BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU WITH THAT 2 TO 2 VOTE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, STAFF AS WELL AS THE CITY ENGINEER ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND WE HAVE REFLECTED THE CLEARING OF THE COMMENTS AND GIVING YOU A COPY OF THAT FINAL VERSION IN THE UPDATED SUBMITTALS.
AND OF COURSE WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY ENGINEER LETTER IS MODIFIED IN THE FUTURE TO NOT REFLECT WHAT IT SAYS REGARDING THE SIGNATURES.
YEAH. AND SO I'M GOING TO HAVE A REPEAT PERFORMANCE.
I PERSONALLY, GENERALLY, MAYOR PRO TEM APPROVES 81 50 FOOT LOTS.
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I GOT IT. GOT THAT IN THE NOTES.PERSONALLY DESPISE IT, BUT IT'S BEEN AGREED UPON AND AN EFFORT TO MOVE THIS MEETING ALONG.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.
AT THE END, YOU'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR AGREEMENT.
SO YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE 50 FOOT LOCKS COMING IN.
SO AT SOME POINT, SOME OTHER SIZED LOTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED.
SO NOPE, AND WE HAVE A RUNNING TABLE.
SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR APPROVAL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE, AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED EYE FOR TWO.
ALL RIGHT. I CAN VOTED AGAINST HIM AND WE HELD IT UP AT A NUMBER MARK GOT TO GO OUT IN STYLE.
[19. Discussion and possible action to approve Ashland Section Six Preliminary Plat.]
TIES DIRECTLY INTO SECTION THREE VERY SIMILAR IN DYNAMIC.SECTION SIX IS 62 LOTS ZERO 50 FOOT LOTS, 45, 55 AND 17 60 FOOT LOTS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OF COURSE, ON SECTION SIX VOTED TO THE TWO TO DENY BASED ON US NOT HAVING THE AFFIRMATIVE FOUR VOTES.
SO WE FORWARD THIS TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION BEING THAT ALL THE COMMENTS ARE CLEARED AND THEN WE WILL NOTE THE SAME CONDITION OF THE LETTER FROM THE CITY ENGINEER AS NOTED.
THIS THIS SECTION HAS ZERO 50 FOOT LOTS THAT I EXECRATE AND ABOMINATE A THESAURUS OVER HERE THAT YOU APPROVED IN THE LAST ONE PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
GOOD WORD CHOICE. SECOND, SO I MOVED TO APPROVE SECTION SIX.
BUT YOU'RE GOOD. HE SECONDS THE ABOMINATE AND YEAH, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
THE DRAINAGE IS NOT DONE AND WE'RE JUST MOVING AT LIGHT SPEED TO APPROVE PLATS TO APPROVE PLATS AT THIS POINT, WITH NO ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE STILL OUT THERE, SO THEY STILL HAVE TO BE APPROVED AND CLEARED.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE APPROVAL BEFORE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? I. I'M NUMBER 20.
[20. Discussion and possible action to approve the preliminary plat of the Ashland Project Street Dedication #4.]
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.NUMBER FOUR CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID OCCUR ON THE 19TH FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLAT.
THE COMMENTS, OF COURSE, OF THE CITY ENGINEER HAVE BEEN CLEARED.
THERE WERE SOME OTHER OUTSTANDING ONES AND WE CLEARED THOSE ON TODAY AND THE COPY IS SUBMITTED WITH THE REMOVAL OF A CERTAIN REFERENCE ON THE PLAT AND CORRECTION THEREOF.
WE WILL GET WITH THE CITY ENGINEER REGARDING THE LETTER COMMENTS NOTED AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID APPROVE THE STREET DEDICATION PLAT AND FORWARDS THAT TO YOU FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION.
STREET DEDICATION NUMBER FOR 1.97 ACRES OF LAND, SERVING A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF SAPPHIRE SPRINGS TRAILS WHICH WOULD SERVE THE SECTIONS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED.
I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE PLOT.
DO WE? DO WE KNOW THE WIDTH OF THESE ROADS? 70. WELL, IT'S A RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY. THAT'S NOT AN ACTUAL.
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NO, THESE ARE COLLECTOR STREETS, ARE THEY? ON OUR DESIGN STANDARDS AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STREETS GO IS ON THE COUNTY STANDARD.THE ROAD STANDARDS ARE WITHIN THE DA.
OKAY. CAITLIN, DO YOU KNOW THE INFORMATION ON THE PROFILE? DO YOU NOT? FIND IT.
BUT YOU WERE PRESENTED ALL OF THOSE COLLECTOR ROADS.
THE FOUR LANE SEPARATION? NO, I REMEMBER. I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE WE ARE FROM OUR PLAN.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST HAVE THE DESIGNATION OF THE 70 FOOT COLLECTOR.
THIS ONE IS NOT SEPARATED BY MEDIUM LIKE THE MAJOR CORRIDOR THAT RUNS THROUGH THE SPINE.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, I WOULD RECOMMEND OTIS ON THIS.
REALIZE THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF SAPPHIRE SPRINGS TRAIL OR THE NORTH WESTERLY PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THERE IS GOING TO BE THE ANGLETON SCHOOL TRACT.
RATHER THAN JUST FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S TRUE. BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ANGLETON SCHOOL PLANT.
SO THAT TEXT COULD GET PUT ON THERE SINCE IT'S THERE.
THERE ARE TWO INTERSECTING STREETS COMING INTO THIS.
THEIR NAMES COULD ALSO BE PUT ON THERE JUST FOR JUST FOR CLARITY PURPOSES.
I ASSUME THEY HAVE NAMES, JUST AIDS IN THE FUTURE USE OF THESE DRAWINGS.
THIS ISN'T JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING THEY GO INTO.
AND NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE THERE WHEN THAT PERSON NEEDS TO FIGURE IT OUT.
I'VE BEEN THAT GUY. OKAY? I HEAR YOU AND CAITLIN.
YOU HEARD MR.. WE WILL MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS.
CAN THEY DO THAT? WELL, YEAH, THEY NEED TO TRACK ONTO THE FINAL.
COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ASHLAND STREET DEDICATION NUMBER FOUR.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GONGORA TO APPROVE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? I HAVE ONE.
ALL RIGHT. THAT LEADS US TO BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE WILL GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1025 FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON PERSONNEL MATTERS TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION AND REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE PURSUANT TO SECTION 551 .074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. APPOINTMENTS OR APPOINTMENTS AND CITY COUNCIL POSITION NUMBER FIVE.
WE ARE COMING BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1118.
COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION? YES, I DO.
THE COUNSEL MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS TO MANY OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR 2020 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.
IT'S FOR ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION.
I MOVE TO REAPPOINT RACHEL RITTER FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
APPOINT OR MOVE TO APPOINT ANDREW HESTON FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
MOVE TO REAPPOINT BLAINE SMITH AND REAPPOINT JAMIE SCHWARTZ SHAW FOR THE KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL.
I MOVE TO REAPPOINT SUZANNE DELLINGER, PATTY COOPER AS A REAPPOINTMENT.
HEATHER BREWER AS A REAPPOINTMENT.
DIANA MATHIS AS A REAPPOINTMENT FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.
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THERE WILL BE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT BLAINE SMITH.TO REAPPOINT LOUIS, LEAH AND REAPPOINT JESSICA NORRIS.
FOR THE PARKS AND REC RECREATION YOUTH MEMBER, WE MOVED TO A MOVE TO APPOINT ABBY JO ORTIZ FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. MOVE TO APPOINT WILL CLARK.
REAPPOINT REGINA BERRY AND REAPPOINT MICHELLE TOWNSEND.
UM, MOVED TO REAPPOINT JANIE SCHWARTZ, WHO WAS JUST APPOINTED.
APPOINT SHERRI PHILLIPS, REAPPOINT SARA MCDANIEL, AND REAPPOINT MARCY MILAM.
AND AS FOR CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE.
NO, NO. WELL, I ASKED YOU WHAT YOU WOULD DO AT THE END.
SO LET'S GO THROUGH THIS AND THEN WE CAN.
SO AS FAR AS THAT WILL MAKE MAKE THAT MOTION.
DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY ACTION WE HAVE COMING OUT OF OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
CORRECT. YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE OUR COMMENT, THOUGH.
SO FOR THE COUNCIL POSITIONS, ALL THOSE THAT GAVE APPLICATIONS WILL BE BROUGHT BACK AT THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER FOR THE INTERVIEW AND FOR FINAL APPROVAL OF FINAL PICK.
SO, SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT AT 1121.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.