7. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20231010-007 a request for approval of a Strategic Partnership Agreement (SPA) to be made and entered into by and between the City of Angleton, Texas, through its City Council, and Brazoria County Municipal Utility District No. 82, under the authority of Section 43.0751 of the Texas Local Government Code.

[7. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20231010-007 a request for approval of a Strategic Partnership Agreement (SPA) to be made and entered into by and between the City of Angleton, Texas, through its City Council, and Brazoria County Municipal Utility District No. 82, under the authority of Section 43.0751 of the Texas Local Government Code. ]

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20231010-007.

A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT TO BE MADE AND ENTERED INTO BY THE BETWEEN THE CITY OF ANGLETON THROUGH ITS CITY COUNCIL AND BRAZORIA COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITIES DISTRICT NUMBER 82, UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF SECTION 43.0751 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

YOU WANT TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND ON THIS? REAL QUICK, OTIS. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT, WHICH IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT IS JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE'RE HOPING FOR AN ACTION IN YOUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS

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STATE GOVERNMENT CODE FOR APPROVAL OF SPA'S.

SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO COME INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER REGARDING THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS, OF COURSE, CONTRACTUALLY, LET'S SAY, EXECUTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS OF JUNE OF THIS YEAR.

THE AGREEMENT WOULD BASICALLY OUTLINE ALL THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY.

IT WILL OUTLINE ALSO PROVISIONS FOR LIMITED ANNEXATION, AS WE KNOW, FOR THE COMMERCIAL PORTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE LONG TERM ANNEXATION OF THE PROJECT OVER THE COURSE OF THE 30 YEARS.

WITHIN THAT IS ALSO THE PROVISIONS, OF COURSE, FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY ITEMS IN WHICH AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE ACREAGE FOR THE FIRE STATION IS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND IT ALSO WOULD OUTLINE THE CITY SERVICES THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO HEAR PUBLIC INPUT TONIGHT AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK NEXT TIME FOR THE ACTION AS WELL AS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

AND WE WILL HAVE THE DOCUMENT TOTALLY COMPLETE BY LEGAL IN TERMS OF THE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE DEVELOPER IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATIONS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I OR LEGAL REPRESENTATION COULD ANSWER THOSE.

BUT TONIGHT IS JUST THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

DO I HAVE A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DANIEL TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME.

ONCE MORE. AND LAST TIME? NO. NOBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.

COUNCIL. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. WE ARE OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING.

OTIS, WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE DOING THIS TWO DIFFERENT PUBLIC HEARINGS, CORRECT? YES, SIR. DO YOU NEED ACTION TONIGHT? NO ACTION IS REQUIRED.

RIGHT. OKAY.

COUNCIL IS ANYBODY WANTING TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? NO. ALL RIGHT.

HEARING NONE.

[8. Conduct a public hearing, discussion and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20231010-008 authorizing and creating the Riverwood North Public Improvement District in the City of Angleton, Texas, in accordance with Chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code; providing for related matters; and providing an effective date.]

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO NUMBER EIGHT, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20231010-008 AUTHORIZING AND CREATING THE RIVERWOOD NORTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 372 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ANYBODY WANT TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ANDREA BARNES WITH P3 WORKS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, BILL.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? OKAY, PERFECT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL TONIGHT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE PETITION THAT WAS FILED BY THE DEVELOPER IN AUGUST FOR A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND PER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 372.009, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION TO ACTUALLY CREATE THE DISTRICT.

SO ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, YOU SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING ALL THE NOTICES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY 372.009 HAVE BEEN COMPLIED WITH.

AND WE DO RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN TAKE ACTION ON THE PETITION THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN AUGUST.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

HANG TIGHT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL DO I HAVE ACTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.

SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

ONE MORE TIME. ANYBODY.

THAT'S WHERE I USUALLY SAY BUELLER.

MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU. SECOND.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS THIS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, HOW IS THIS DISTRICT DIFFERENT THAN THE EXISTING PID THAT'S ALREADY ON THE LOCATION?

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SO THE ORIGINAL PID WAS INTENDED TO BE A BONDED PID, BUT IT WAS CONVERTED TO A CASH PID.

AND SO THIS PID IS CREATED TO ALLOW FOR IT TO BE A BONDED PID.

AND BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT, YOU CAN'T COMBINE THE TWO, THE CASH AND THE BONDED.

SO WE HAD TO CREATE A NEW DISTRICT FOR THAT PIECE OR THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO ISSUE PID BONDS.

OKAY. AND THIS PID IS COVERING SECTIONS THREE AND FOUR.

THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

IS THAT CORRECT, MR. FOLEY? ONE AND TWO ARE THE CASH PIDS.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN THREE AND FOUR IS A BONDED PID.

CORRECT, SIR. OKAY ANYWHERE IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, DOES IT STATE THAT THERE ARE TO BE TWO PIDS OR THERE HAS TO BE TWO PIDS? OR I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT AVENUES DOES COUNCIL HAVE BEFORE IT TONIGHT? DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE? I MEAN, IS IT A PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THERE WILL BE ONE? SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, TO ANSWER YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, MAYOR, DID NOT ADDRESS WHETHER IT HAD TO BE 1 OR 2, BUT THAT'S MORE OF A LEGAL QUESTION THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU HAVE YOUR CITY ATTORNEY ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU. DO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRE A PID BE PROVIDED TO COVER THE ENTIRETY OF THE FOUR TRACKS? ARE YOU ASKING ME? SIR, I'M SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.

YEAH. THAT, TO ME, IS MORE OF A LEGAL, LEGAL QUESTION.

YEAH. YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT.

BUT I DIDN'T WORK ON THIS PID.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THIS ONE, I THINK, HAS ALREADY BEEN SIGNED.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THE CITY IS ALREADY BOUND.

THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THE SPA AGREEMENT IN PLACE PER THE AG THAT ASKED US TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO GET EVERYTHING READY.

OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WAS THAT NEGOTIATED? WAS IT NEGOTIATED THAT THERE WILL BE A PID.

THERE WILL BE. LIKE A SHALL.

LIKE IT MUST BE PROVIDED.

YOU'RE ASKING, DID THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT STATE THAT THERE SHALL BE TWO SEPARATE PIDS IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING SIR? THAT THE CITY WOULD AGREE TO A PID WITH THE DEVELOPER? YES, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOES SPELL THAT OUT, SIR.

BUT IT DID NOT ARTICULATE WHETHER THERE WERE TO BE.

CORRECT, SIR. OKAY.

IT DOES SAY THAT IT HAS TO BE, BUT IT DOES NOT SAY HOW IT SHOULD.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND AS THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS STATING, THE ATTORNEY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE DID MAKE A A RULING.

IT'S NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT'S NOT IN WRITING.

THAT RULING WAS SHARED WITH THE BOND COUNSEL FOR THE CITY.

AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT IS BEING DONE AS TWO SEPARATE PIDS.

SO AND I JUST GOT CONFIRMATION THAT THERE WAS NO NOTHING IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SAID THERE HAD TO BE TWO PIDS.

OKAY. I GUESS.

THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE IF WE'RE PAST THIS POINT WHERE WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE PIDS ON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT DOESN'T CLEARLY STATE THAT THERE SHALL BE TWO PIDS.

THERE'S ALREADY ONE PID ON THE PROPERTY, THERE'S ALREADY A TIRZ ON THE PROPERTY.

SO DOES IT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT OR DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY RECOURSE OR ACTION TO NOT APPROVE THE SECOND PID? SO THAT'S THE QUESTION. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ADVISED SPECIFICALLY THAT THE SECOND PID SHOULD BE CREATED IN ORDER TO GET THE BONDS APPROVED.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL OF US. I'M JUST THINKING.

DOES ANYONE MAKE A MAKE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 20231010-008 AUTHORIZING AND CREATING THE RIVERWOOD RANCH NORTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? ONE MORE TIME. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

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AND THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

YES. SO OUR HAND IS FORCED.

WHAT'S THAT? OUR HAND IS FORCED.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I UNDERSTAND HER TO BE SAYING.

BUT I UNDERSTAND HER TO BE SAYING IS THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS SAYING IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A PID, IT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE FORM OF A BONDED PID.

AND CREATING A SECOND BONDED PID.

I DON'T THINK HE'S SAYING WE HAVE TO HAVE A PID.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS AUTHORITY I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAID THAT WE HAD HAVE A PID.

RIGHT. THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT.

YES, THAT WAS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

IT DIDN'T SPECIFY THERE HAD TO BE TWO.

IT JUST SPECIFIED THERE HAD TO BE A PID, AND THE AG ADVISED THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE BONDS APPROVED, THE SECOND PID SHOULD BE CREATED.

AND THE REASON THE SECOND PID IS JUST FOR THE BOND? CORRECT. OPPOSED TO.

WAS THAT A SECOND OR WAS THAT A QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED? THAT'S A QUESTION. OKAY.

SO MY LAST TIME DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR? HEARING NONE.

NO ACTION. UNLESS LEGAL, HAS ANY OTHER AVENUES THEY WOULD LIKE ME TO TAKE.

SO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR CERTAIN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT COSTS. SO IN ORDER TO FULFILL THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SIGNED, IT'S KIND OF NECESSARY.

AND THAT'S WHY I WAS AFRAID THAT OUR HANDS BEING FORCED.

SO IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SAME AGREEMENTS.

WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND OUR BOND COUNSEL.

OKAY. YOU'RE STILL IN MOTION.

I MEAN, I CAN GO BACK TO THAT AND ASK ONE MORE TIME.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY.

MR. MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE NEXT MEETING? WE CAN DO THAT. THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, DO I HAVE AN ACTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL THE VERY NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

WE'LL HAVE TO REVISIT THIS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST. [INAUDIBLE] LEGAL COUNSEL, GUIDE ME HERE.

CAN WE PRESENT QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT THAT WE WANT ANSWERED.

SO WE COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT THE QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED AND THEY CAN WE CAN HAVE ANSWERS TO THEM.

WE HAVE QUESTIONS TONIGHT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANSWERS TO.

I'D LIKE FOR THE QUESTIONS TO BE POSED SO THAT WHOEVER COMES, YOU OR WHOEVER, CAN ACTUALLY HAVE AN ANSWER.

SURE. SURE.

WE'RE KIND OF IN A QUANDARY HERE.

BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THE CITY IS BOUND CONTRACTUALLY IN THIS INSTANCE, SO.

I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER, THOUGH.

I'LL SUBMIT MINE IN WRITING.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.

[9. Update, discussion and possible action on the Drought Contingency Plan.]

HECTOR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER UPDATE ON THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.

PREVIOUSLY, WE WENT FROM STAGE TWO TO STAGE ONE, AND CURRENTLY WE'RE HOLDING A THREE DAY AVERAGE OF AROUND 2.1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

AND IT HAS BEEN LIKE THAT THE ENTIRE MONTH OF OCTOBER.

SO AS STAFF, WE'D RECOMMEND JUST COMPLETELY GETTING OUT OF THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.

OKAY, COUNCIL DO I HAVE ACTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO END OUR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.

SECOND. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.

SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL TO ELIMINATE THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN ALTOGETHER AT THIS POINT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW OUT OF THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER TEN UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE DRAINAGE AND FLASH FLOODING EVENT THAT OCCURRED ON OCTOBER 3RD, 2023.

[10. Update, discussion and possible action on the drainage and flash flooding event that occurred on October 3, 2023. ]

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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I HAVE A POWERPOINT.

YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT? I DO. SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

AS WE ALL KNOW, ON OCTOBER 3RD, WE RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RAIN AND.

CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME? WHAT ABOUT NOW? BETTER. OKAY, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD. OKAY, WE'RE GOOD.

SO I'LL JUST GO OFF MEMORY.

SO ON OCTOBER 3RD, WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RAIN IMMEDIATELY AS THE RAIN STARTED COMING DOWN BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF RAIN WE RECEIVED W E IMMEDIATELY STARTED INTO EMERGENCY ACTION PLANS DUE TO SOME STREET FLOODING.

IN THAT CASE, WE SENT OUT A MASS NOTIFICATION IMMEDIATELY ADVISING OF SOME STREET FLOODINGS.

AS THOSE CHANGED THROUGHOUT IT.

BUT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW AND BE AWARE AND THEN IMMEDIATELY START A MASS COMMUNICATION WITHIN THE CITY.

AS YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN FROM EVERYBODY HELPING IMMENSELY.

AND SO IT WAS A GREAT AND HUMBLING EXPERIENCE TO SEE THE DEDICATION THAT OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE TO DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO SERVICE.

SO THE OFFICIAL NOTICE IS THAT WE RECEIVED 8.62IN OF RAIN IN SIX HOURS WAS THE OFFICIAL TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE HAD.

WHERE DID YOU TAKE THAT READING FROM? THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WAS THE OFFICIAL.

AND IF WE GET MY POWERPOINT, IT'S NOT GOING TO COME UP.

BUT THROUGH THAT, I WENT BACK AND PULLED DATA FROM 2000 ON TO CURRENT TIMES.

AND IN THAT DATA I PULLED ANY KIND OF RAIN THAT WE HAD THAT FELL IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD THAT WAS ABOUT SIX INCHES OR MORE.

2015, WE HAD OH, I'M NOT HAVING [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH.

SO ON TO 2019, WE HAD 7.8IN.

THEN AUGUST 25TH OF 2017, WE HAD 7.1IN AND MAY 12TH, 2015 WE HAD 6.3.

AND THEN OCTOBER 16TH OF 2006 WE HAD TEN INCHES.

THERE IS NO OTHER RECORDS FROM THAT TIME FRAME.

THAT'S THE CLOSEST WE HAVE THAT WE RECEIVED THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RAIN AND TO SHOW IS THE IMPACT THAT WE HAD IS UNIQUE TO WHAT WE EXPERIENCED ON OCTOBER 3RD WAS THAT AMOUNT OF RAIN COMPOUNDED BY THE DROUGHT AND THAT THE SOIL WAS LIKE CONCRETE AND IT CAME DOWN SO HARD IT WAS JUST NOWHERE FOR IT TO GO.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS ONE OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS GUYS OUT THERE IN KNEE DEEP FIXING DRAINS, CLEARING DRAINS.

WHO WAS THAT? IT WAS BRETT FERGUSON.

YEAH. HE NEEDS TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR SURE.

100%. THANK YOU.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES THROUGH HERE.

THIS WAS EVANS STREET. WE DID HAVE ONE HOUSE THAT RECEIVED WATER ON EVANS STREET.

IT CAME IN THROUGH THE GARAGE AND THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.

THE GARAGE IN THE BACK PART OF THE LADY'S HOUSE IS THE SAME LEVEL AND HER HOUSE IS UP.

SO SHE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET ANY INTO THE HOUSE.

IT WAS JUST THE BACK ROOM AND IT APPEARS THAT IT CAME FROM THE BACK BECAUSE SHE HAS A FRENCH DRAIN SYSTEM AND IT HAS NOWHERE TO DRAIN BECAUSE THE STREET WAS CONTAINING WATER. AND THEN THIS WAS GARDENIA STREET.

THEN RANCHOS SUBDIVISION.

THIS WAS OUR HENDERSON DITCH AT THE TIME.

AND THIS WAS CANON IN NORTH BOUNDARIES.

THEN NORTH, TINSLEY AND CEDAR.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL OF OUR CITY WAS JUST CONTAINED IN WATER BECAUSE IT WAS COMING DOWN SO QUICKLY, THERE WAS NO WHERE FOR IT TO GO.

BUT I DO WANT TO EXTEND THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS SOON AS I MADE ANY PHONE CALLS, THEY WERE BLOCKING STREETS, PARKS, PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS.

THEY WERE ALL RIGHT THERE BESIDE ME AS I WAS DRIVING AROUND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO, BLOCK OFF STREETS TO KEEP WATER FROM INUNDATING ANYBODY'S HOMES.

SO I WANTED TO SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

JAMIE, REAL QUICK. YES, SIR.

HOW LONG WAS CANNON BLOCKED OFF? CANNON ACTUALLY, WE NEVER BLOCKED CANNON OFF.

WE JUST KIND OF PATROLLED TO GET EVERYBODY TO NOT PUSH WATER QUICKLY THROUGH THERE.

OKAY. I DROVE BY ACROSS VALDERAS LOOKING TO THE RIGHT OF CANNON.

I THOUGHT I SAW THAT THEY HAD BLOCKED THAT OFF OR THEY WERE ALLOWING ONE CAR THROUGH.

MAYBE. MAYBE THAT'S AT A TIME.

MAYBE THAT IS WHAT THEY ENDED UP DOING.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WERE SPREAD THIN, JUST TRYING TO COVER THINGS.

AND I KNOW THAT CANNON WAS ONE.

SO WE WOULD NOT PUSH THE WATER INTO THE HOMES BECAUSE IT WAS VERY DEEP.

AND THEN I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL PICTURES IN MY DRIVING AROUND THAT I'D LIKE TO SEND SO YOU CAN PUT THOSE IN THERE.

GREAT. REALLY, THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, THE SOUTH VALDERAS AREA OR LAURIE

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LANE, BERT STREET? YES. RICE.

THOSE WERE. EARLS COURT.

WHERE EARLS COURT WAS EARLS COURT.

THEY WERE ALL PRETTY BAD.

THEY WERE. THEY REALLY WERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

I WAS ASKED TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RAIN, HOW THE SYSTEM ACTED, WHAT WE COULD EXPECT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF REACH OUT AND TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT FLOODING.

WHAT IS FLOODING? THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FLOODING AND STORM EVENTS, THINGS OF THE NATURE LIKE THAT.

THEN I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE EVANS STREET EARL COURT THAT WE'VE SEEN, WHY IT HAPPENS, SOME OF THE THINGS I IDENTIFIED IN THE FIELD AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SUCCESSES.

CITY OF ANGLETON HAD A LOT OF SUCCESSES FROM RECENT CONSTRUCTIONS.

THAT NEEDS TO BE NOTED THAT THE CITY HAS DONE WELL.

AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE WHICH ARE LOOKING FOR FUNDING.

FIRST OFF, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FLOOD FLOODING IS REALLY CHARACTERIZED BY SEVERAL THINGS.

ONE IS BASICALLY THE FREQUENCY.

HOW OFTEN DOES SOMETHING FLOOD? YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT? YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE DURATION.

HOW LONG IS THE WATER THERE? AND YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE HEIGHT.

OKAY. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU TRY TO IMPROVE ON IN THOSE SITUATIONS.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU LOOK AT IN FLOODING.

TWO TYPES OF FLOODING.

ONE IS CALLED STRUCTURAL FLOODING.

THAT'S WHEN WATER GETS INTO THE HOUSE.

WATER GETS INTO A FURNISHED ROOM, LIVING ROOM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THE OTHER TYPE OF FLOODING IS CALLED NUISANCE FLOODING.

OKAY. NUISANCE FLOODING CONSISTS OF THE DITCHES FLOWING FULL, COMING UP IN THE YARDS, STREETS FLOWING FULL.

OKAY, SO YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF FLOODING.

YOU'VE GOT STRUCTURAL FLOODING WHICH YOU DO NOT WANT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO STOP.

AND YOU GOT NUISANCE FLOODING, WHICH ON A STORM EVENT OF THIS NATURE IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STORM THAT HAPPENED, BASICALLY YOU HAD OVER YOU HAD OVER EIGHT INCHES IN A SIX HOUR PERIOD.

RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE STORM EVENT, THAT THAT IS IS THAT STATISTICALLY IS AN EVENT THAT HAPPENS EVERY 25 YEARS OR 4% CHANCE TO HAPPEN EVERY YEAR.

THAT'S HOW INTENSE THAT WAS.

TAKING A LOOK AT 100 YEAR EXTREME EVENT IN COMPARISON IS 16IN IN 24 HOURS.

RIGHT. SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THE INTENSITY BECAUSE THE STORM EVENTS BASED OFF OF THE VOLUME AND THE DURATION.

ONE OF THE NUMBERS THAT WERE SHOWN EARLIER WAS A TEN INCH RAIN.

BUT THAT TEN INCH RAIN OCCURRED ALL DAY LONG, COULD HAVE OCCURRED ALL DAY LONG TO WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE AS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AS YOU HAVE WITH EIGHT INCHES IN SIX HOURS.

SO BASICALLY, YOU'RE TAKING A HURRICANE, YOU'RE TAKING HALF OF THE VOLUME OF WATER ON A TROPICAL STORM IN A QUARTER OF A TON.

THAT'S HOW INTENSE THIS RAINFALL WAS.

SO THE NEXT THING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, IS SOME OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS AND THINGS THAT YOU SEE.

NOW, THE WAY THAT THE CITY OF ANGLETON, THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON IS VERY FLAT.

OKAY. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FALL.

IT'S VERY GRADUAL FALLS EVERYWHERE YOU GO.

WHEN THE SUBDIVISIONS, THESE OLDER SUBDIVISIONS I'M GOING TO START SPEAKING ON EVANS AND EARL COURT BECAUSE THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT REPORTED THE FLOODING.

AND I'LL GET INTO THAT FLOODING ON EVANS IN PARTICULAR.

THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED WAS IT WAS IT WAS DESIGNED TO GO OUT INTO A OUTFALL DITCH, THE OUTFALL DITCH THAT ULTIMATELY GOES INTO HIS DITCH A.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT DITCH EIGHT, WHEN THIS EXTREME INTENSE RAIN HAPPENED AND DITCH A WAS FILLED UP AND JEFF, YOU CAN TELL ME HOW HIGH WAS THE WATER ON DITCH A? HAVE YOU EVER SEEN IT THAT HIGH? WE'VE NEVER SEEN IT THAT HIGH.

SO DITCH A WAS COMPLETELY FULL ONCE YOU'RE OUTFALLS ARE FULL.

WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS THE WATER STARTS BACKING UP IN THE STREETS.

BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO.

THE DEPRESSED CURB AND GUTTER SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO HOLD AND STORE VOLUME OF WATER THAT WHEN THE SYSTEMS GET OVERWHELMED AND THEN METERED BACK OUT.

THAT'S THE WAY THESE OLDER SUBDIVISIONS WERE DONE.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK HERE AT THE PICTURE, THIS IS EVANS STREET AND YOU CAN SEE HOW EXTREMELY WIDE EVANS STREET IS.

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AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S CURB AND GUTTER.

AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES PREVIOUSLY SHOWN THE WATER WAS KNEE DEEP IN EVANS STREET.

OKAY. SO WITH YOUR GENTLEMAN THAT YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S HOW THAT SYSTEM ACTED WAS THE WAY THAT IT WAS DESIGNED. INTENSE RAIN, OUTFALLS COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED.

IT'S DESIGNED TO STORE IN THE STREET.

YOU WANT THE WATER IN THE STREET.

YOU DON'T WANT THE WATER IN PEOPLE'S HOUSES.

SO THAT'S HOW EARL'S COURT, THAT'S HOW ALL THESE SYSTEMS WERE DESIGNED ON THESE OLDER SUBDIVISIONS, WAS TO TAKE THE WATER SHEET, FLOW IT UP TO THE FRONT ON KIBER AND THEN OUT TO DITCH A.

SO WHEN WE.

REAL QUICKLY DITCH A IS ALONG SOUTH DOWNING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT STARTS RIGHT THERE AT KIBER AND ANDERSON AND THEN IT GOES DOWNING IS DITCH SIX THAT TIES INTO DITCH A.

OKAY. DITCH A IS THE MAIN CONVEYANCE CHANNEL.

OKAY. CROSSES RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION.

OKAY. YES, SIR. SO WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE SAW WHEN I WENT OUT TO THE FIELD ON EVANS STREET AND STARTING TO GO BACK TO MY PICTURES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID SEE IS I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IS THE DRIP LINE.

THAT'S WHERE THE DEBRIS DRIFT LINE WAS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE WATER WASN'T UP TO THE HOUSES ON THAT INTENSIVE OF A RAIN EVENT.

IT STAYED BELOW THE HOUSES.

IT STAYED IN THE STREET LIKE IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AN INTENSE RAINFALL LIKE THAT, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THAT WITH THAT AMOUNT OF RAIN BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOWHERE TO TAKE IT TO.

SO IT STORED UP AND AS YOU CAN SEE.

THIS THING HAVE A [INAUDIBLE] SEE THIS LASER WORK? NO, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DEBRIS MATERIAL UP THERE.

SO THAT'S HOW HIGH THE WATER GOT.

AND IT WAS AWAY FROM THE HOUSE.

IT NEVER GOT TO THE HOUSE.

SO THE SYSTEM WORKED AS IT WAS DESIGNED TO WORK.

ANOTHER THING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT WAS I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND IT'S BEEN MENTIONED TO SEVERAL TIMES TODAY IS JUST THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT YOUR STAFF DID.

THEY MONITORED THE STORM EVENTS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND REMOVE THE DEBRIS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED, THE REASON WHY YOU SAW SO MUCH DEBRIS IN THIS STORM EVENT.

YES, IT WAS A BIG RAIN EVENT.

BUT THE PROBLEM WAS, IS WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY RAIN FOR THE SPRING THROUGH THE SUMMER.

SO ALL OF THE DEAD LEAVES AND STUFF THROUGH THE WINTER THAT PILED UP ALL THE DEAD TREES, ALL THE BROKEN LIMBS, ALL THAT STUFF NEVER GOT CLEANED AND WASHED OUT THROUGH STORM EVENTS IN PEOPLE'S YARDS AND DITCHES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WHEN THIS RAIN EVENT CAME, IT BASICALLY WASHED EVERYTHING INTO YOUR COLLECTION SYSTEMS AND THAT'S WHY YOU SAW SO MUCH DEBRIS IN SOME OF YOUR COLLECTION SYSTEMS AS HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE CITY NEEDS TO COORDINATE WITH THE DEVELOPER ON KIBER STREET.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE, THERE IS A DITCH BETWEEN KIBER RESERVE AND EVANS.

THE DEVELOPER HAS BUILT THE FENCES IN THE PROPERTY LINES THROUGH THE DITCH.

AND IS ESSENTIALLY MADE DAMS AN THAT DITCH TO PUSH IT OUT? THAT'S CORRECT. IT WASN'T THE DEVELOPER IS NOT DOING IT.

THE FENCE BUILDER. THE HOME BUILDER IS.

HOME BUILDERS YES. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

OKAY. YES, SIR. SO WE HAD REPORTS.

NO REPORTS OF FLOODING.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT THE REASON FOR THE FLOODING.

THE FLOODING WAS THERE WAS NOWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO.

STREET FLOODING, NOT NOT STRUCTURAL FLOODING HERE.

STREET FLOODING. BUT WE HAVE REPORTS THAT WHEN YOU DO GET A HEAVY RAIN LIKE THIS, PEOPLE DID SEE THE WATER THAT COULD NOT COME DOWN THAT DITCH.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE DITCH.

YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE LINE ACTUALLY GOES DOWN.

AND I THINK THERE'S LIKE EIGHT INCHES.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DITCH IS WAY BIGGER THAN EIGHT INCHES AND IT CAN GET CLOGGED UP VERY EASY.

THAT WATER ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THE KIBER RESERVE IS HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING ONE.

WATER WAS PUSHED THROUGH THE PEOPLE ON EVANS STREET YARD AND GOT INTO THE EVANS STREET DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

ONE OF TWO THINGS.

EITHER WE NEED TO REMOVE, THE FENCES, NEED TO BE REMOVED OUT AND STOPPED BEFORE THE DITCH.

WHICH WILL MEAN THE CITY WOULD NEED TO MAINTAIN THAT AT ALL TIMES.

IT'S GOING TO BE A HEADACHE OR POTENTIALLY LET THEM CONTINUE THAT, CONTINUE THE FENCE ACROSS, BUT PUT IN WROUGHT IRON GATE FENCES THAT ARE TWO INCHES APART THAT WILL ALLOW THE WATER TO FLOW, BUT THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.

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IT'LL STILL BE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE BECAUSE LEAVES THINGS OF THAT NATURE GET CLOGGED UP AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME AND SWEEP IT DURING THE STORM EVENTS.

I WOULD RECOMMEND REMOVING IT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

THE DITCH FLOWS FINE.

THE NEXT THING THAT WE SAW WAS ON EVANS STREET THERE ACTUALLY IS A SMALL, VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL STORM SEWER ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE STORM SEWER IS NOT DESIGNED FOR A RAIN EVENT OF THIS NATURE.

IT'S FOR LITTLE BITTY SMALL STORMS. THAT PIPE THERE IS ONLY LIKE A 15, 12, MAYBE 15 AT THE MOST.

AND THE PIPE DOESN'T HAVE ANY DEPTH BECAUSE THERE'S NO DEPTH OF THE OUTFALL.

SO THE PIPE IS RIGHT BELOW THE TOP OF THE PAVEMENT.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, DUE TO ALL OF THE DEBRIS THAT HADN'T BEEN WASHED OR CLEANED, WE GOT A LOT OF DEBRIS IN THERE.

IT'S HOLDING WATER ON THE DITCH OUTSIDE, DOWN DOWNSTREAM.

DIDN'T HAVE ANY WATER.

THAT'S NOT WHY THIS THING FLOODED.

BUT WE CAN IMPROVE THE SYSTEM FOR SMALLER STORMS BY CLEANING THAT OUT.

AND JEFF IS GOING TO ROD THAT OUT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. THAT NEEDS TO BE RODDED OUT.

BUT AGAIN, THAT HAD NO EFFECT ON THE FLOODING EVENT.

THE FLOODING EVENT AGAIN, IS THERE'S THE SHEET FLOW COMES DOWN AND PUSHES WATER TO KIBER AND A SHEET FLOW PATTERN AND THEN IT GOES OUT TO DITCH A. THIS LITTLE SYSTEM ONLY HANDLES LIKE A ONE INCH RAIN TO WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUSH THE WATER BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE DIP IN THE ROAD. THAT'S ALL IT'S FOR, IS TO DRAIN THAT DIP.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.

OKAY. SO LET ME GO BACK.

SO THAT IS WHAT I SAW OUT THERE.

NOW, AS FAR AS THE FLOODING AT 508 EVANS THAT WAS REPORTED AS AGAIN, WHEN I WENT OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT, THE DEBRIS LINE WAS BELOW THE HOUSES, RIGHT? SO IT NEVER GOT HIGH ENOUGH FROM STREET FLOODING TO GET INTO THOSE HOUSES.

WHAT I SAW OUT THERE.

NOW, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE HOMEOWNER.

SO THIS IS JUST ME LOOKING AT THIS AT WHAT'S PHYSICALLY ABLE TO SEE IS BETWEEN 508 AND ITS NEIGHBOR, THERE'S A SMALL SIX INCH DEEP DITCH THAT COLLECTS WATER FROM THE BACKYARD AND BRINGS IT TO THE FRONT.

WITH THIS INTENSE RAIN AND IT RUNS RIGHT NEXT TO THE GARAGE.

RIGHT. SO WITH THIS INTENSE RAIN, THAT LITTLE SMALL DITCH WILL FILL UP FULL OF WATER AS IT'S TRYING TO COME ACROSS THE BACK YARD TO GET INTO THAT SMALL DITCH, TO COME UP TO THE FRONT.

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FRONT.

IT'S JUST GETTING THE WATER FROM THE BACK YARD ON THIS INTENSE RAIN EVENT TO THE FRONT.

AND IT MAKES SENSE.

SHE SAID THAT THE FLOODING OCCURRED IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

AND ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE DITCH IS.

SO AGAIN, YOUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM WORKED AS IT WAS DESIGNED.

NOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, THE FLASH FLOOD AS FAR AS ON THOSE IN THAT AREA.

NOW, WHAT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS SOME OF THE SUCCESSES THAT THE CITY HAS THAT YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF.

WE'VE GOT FIVE AREAS THAT THE CITY HAS REDONE, THE DRAINAGE AND THE STREETS.

WE'VE PUT DETENTION PONDS IN TO METER THE WATER OUT AND IT'S WORKED.

THE INTERSECTION OF RICHMOND AND CHENANGO.

WE RECENTLY DID A PROJECT THERE.

WE CHANGED THE GRADE OF THE ROAD TO RUN BACK TOWARDS THE DITCH AT THE DEAD END OF CHENANGO.

WE BUILT A DETENTION POND THERE.

HISTORICALLY THAT PLACE FLOODS AND WATER GETS INTO PEOPLE'S RIGHT INTO THEIR HOUSES, UP TO THEIR HOUSES.

NO REPORTS OF FLOODING.

THE SYSTEM WE DESIGNED WORKED AND WORKED WELL ON A VERY INTENSE RAIN EVENT.

I DROVE IT. IT WAS SUPER HIGH, BUT IT'S NOT AS HIGH AS WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS THAT GUY BUILT A WALL TO KEEP IT OUT OF HIS HOUSE. RIGHT? SO IT WORKED.

AGAIN, I DIDN'T SEE THE MOVEMENT OF THE WALL.

I WAS TRYING.

I WENT STRAIGHT TO THE PLACES THAT WE WORKED.

I WENT THERE. I WAS RIGHT THERE IN IT.

IT WAS IT WAS IMPASSABLE.

IT WAS UNDER MOST CARS COULDN'T GO THROUGH IT.

RIGHT. AND I COULDN'T SEE THE WATER MOVING NORTH TO THAT DETENTION.

I KNOW WE PUT ALL THAT WORK IN THERE.

RIGHT. AGAIN, VERY INTENSE RAIN, EIGHT INCHES, OVER EIGHT INCHES IN A SIX HOUR PERIOD.

VERY, VERY INTENSE RAIN.

WHEN THAT OUTFALL FILLS UP, THAT'S WHAT THAT SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO DO, IS HOLD THAT WATER IN THE STREET.

I CAN'T PUSH THAT WATER WHERE I HAVE NOWHERE FOR IT TO GO.

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BUT WE LOWERED THE ROAD.

WE HAD A CASCADING IN A MATTER OF HOUR, TWO HOURS, THAT WATER WAS GONE.

SURE I AGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH. IT RAN OFF ALL OVER TOWN AS SOON AS IT STOPPED RAINING.

AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO THE OUTFALLS, THE MAIN DITCH OUTFALLS.

VERY INTENSE RAIN.

SOUTHSIDE DRIVE.

WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON SOUTHSIDE DRIVE, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PAVING PROJECT ONLY.

WHEN WE DID A PUBLIC MEETING, PEOPLE CAME UP WITH PHOTOS AND PHOTOS AND PHOTOS OF DRAINAGE AND IT QUICKLY BECAME A DRAINAGE PROJECT.

WE HAD NO CALLS OF FLOODING OVER THERE IN THAT AREA, WHICH WITH A RAIN THAT HARD IS A VERY GOOD WIN FOR THE CITY.

EXTREMELY GOOD WIN FOR THE CITY.

RANCHO DITCH OVER THERE AT HERITAGE PARK.

THAT ONE HAD A 48 INCH CULVERT PULLED OUT.

ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT HAD DONE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BRUSHY BAYOU THAT ALLOWED THIS TO OCCUR.

WE PARTNERED WITH ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND ALONG WITH WINDROSE GREEN, WE PULLED OUT A SINGLE 48 AND PUT IN TWO 10 BY EIGHTHS.

WE MITIGATED IT WITH THE FREEDOM PARK AND WITH INTERNAL DETENTION AND WINDROSE GREEN.

HERITAGE OAK CONSISTENTLY CALLS ABOUT FLOODING WHENEVER WE GET A HARD RAIN OF MORE THAN THREE INCHES.

NO CALLS WERE RECEIVED.

I WAS THERE. NO WATER.

THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF WATER HERE AND THERE ON THE ROAD.

BUT I MEAN IT YOU STILL COULD HAVE RIDDEN A BICYCLE THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

IT WAS FINE.

MY QUESTION TO YOU, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SUCCESSES HERE, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

I COULDN'T GET BACK THERE, BUT I DID DRIVE.

FIRST PLACE I WENT WAS THE WINDROSE GREEN HERITAGE PARK SUBDIVISION, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SUCH A BIG ISSUE WITH THAT.

AND I WAS VERY SURPRISED ON HOW WELL IT WORKED.

EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO AND THEY DID.

AND I'LL ADMIT WHEN THEY'RE RIGHT AND THEY WERE RIGHT.

THEY DID A GOOD, GOOD JOB.

QUESTION I HAVE IS DID THE NEW DETENTION NORTH OF FREEDOM PARK, DID IT GET USED? DID IT FILL UP? I'M NOT SURE IF THAT OUTFALL WAS COMPLETELY THERE WITH BECAUSE THE LAST PICTURES I SAW, CHRIS CASEY WITH OUR OFFICE WENT OUT THERE LAST WEEK AND TOOK PICTURES.

IT WAS EARTHEN. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD EVERYTHING WORKING.

I THINK THE PIPES ARE IN OR IT COULD FILL UP AND COME BACK OUT.

BUT AGAIN, ONCE BRUSHY BAYOU FILLS UP ON THAT INTENSE RAIN, IT'S GOING TO BACK UP.

AND THAT'S THAT'S HOW THOSE SYSTEMS ARE DESIGNED.

BUT WE'RE CONTROLLING IT NOW TO WHERE THERE WAS NO CONTROL BEFORE.

YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION. ARE WE CONTROLLING IT? IS IT WORKING? I'D LIKE FOR US ON COUNCIL TO KNOW AND HAVE THE PEACE OF MIND KNOWING IT'S WORKING.

IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. IF IT'S NOT, THEN THAT'S FINE TOO.

I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I COULDN'T SEE IT. I COULDN'T GET BACK THERE.

I'D HAVE TO GO AND LOOK.

I WOULD I'D BE WILLING TO BET THAT THE PIPES ARE IN AND THAT IS OPEN BECAUSE THEY'VE CUT DOWN FOR THE SPILLWAY, BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE HIGHER WATER. WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE DRIFT LINE IN THAT POND.

YOU CAN TELL WHERE THE WATER WAS.

SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM THAT.

OKAY. I DO TOO.

I'LL GO.

JUST TELL ME WHEN. THE OTHER STREETS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS SHANKS.

WE DID A PROJECT WHERE WE DID SHANKS ROAD EXTENSION.

IN ORDER TO PUT THAT EXTENSION IN, WE HAD TO DO A DETENTION POND.

THE DETENTION POND WAS PUT IN.

DURING ONE OF THE LAST BIG RAIN EVENTS WE NOTED THAT THE SYSTEM ON IS THAT THE EAST SIDE, THE EAST SIDE OF SHANKS, WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE WEST SIDE.

AND THEN CITY AT THAT TIME WAS PUMPING WATER ACROSS THE ROAD TO KEEP IT OUT OF PEOPLE'S HOUSES.

THERE'S A HOUSE THAT'S AN OLDER HOUSE THAT'S VERY LOW THAT WHEN YOU GET THREE INCHES OF WATER, IT GETS INTO HIS PROPERTY.

IT GETS INTO HIS HOUSE.

MET WITH JEFF.

JEFF AND HIS CREW WENT IN THERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

THIS IS THE FIRST BIG TEST.

AND THEY CUT IN A CROSS PIPE TO EQUALIZE THE WATER AND TO USE THE FULL CAPACITY OF THE DETENTION POND.

WITH AN EIGHT INCH RAIN WE DIDN'T GET A CALL THAT WATER GOT INTO THAT GENTLEMAN'S HOUSE.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER BIG SUCCESS STORY.

THE FINAL ONE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS OVER ON MILLER STREET WHERE WE FILLED THE DITCH IN WITH A STORM SEWER PIPE AND PUT A CONCRETE SIDEWALK ON IT THAT DID NOT AFFECT ANYTHING TO WHERE PEOPLE HAD ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES.

SO IT WORKED AS IT WAS DESIGNED, THE SHEET FLOWED OUT.

SO CROSS STREET RIGHT THERE.

MILLER, MILLER AND PARISH.

OKAY. SO THAT SYSTEM WORKED AS IT WAS DESIGNED.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, AS WE'RE DOING THESE PROJECTS, IT'S NOT JUST A PAVING PROJECT, IT'S A DRAINAGE PROJECT, UTILITY PROJECT.

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WE'RE FIXING THESE THINGS COMPLETELY AS YOU GO.

THERE'S STILL LIMITATIONS DUE TO THE OUTFALLS AND INTENSE RAIN, BUT THE STREETS ARE DESIGNED TO HOLD THAT WATER.

NOW, OTHER THINGS IN THE PLANNING THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME.

WHICH ONE IS THAT? THAT IS THE DOWNING STREET.

I KNOW THAT DOWNING HAD A LOT OF FLOODING DOWN THERE AROUND SAN FELIPE.

IT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN EXTREMELY BAD IN THAT AREA.

YEAH, THE CITY HAS BEEN PROACTIVE AND WE'VE DONE A 2D MODEL OF THE SYSTEM OUT THERE AND IDENTIFIED SOLUTIONS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF OF PONDING TO IDENTIFY A PLACE TO DETAIN IT AND TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS.

AND WE'VE GOT A FULL STUDY ON THAT.

SO THAT SECTION RIGHT THERE IS BASICALLY AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE FLOODING IS THE WORST IS AT DOWNING AND SAN FELIPE WILL START WITH A FOUR BY FIVE BOX CULVERT AND HEAD BACK TO THE EAST CROSSING 35 GOING BACK THAT WAY.

NOW, IT DOES HAVE SOME CHOKE POINTS THERE AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

WE'RE AWARE OF THAT. AND THAT'S WHY THE DETENTION PONDS ON THAT SIDE TO TRY TO MITIGATE THOSE ISSUES.

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE HINDRANCES OF THE DRAINAGE HERE IS GETTING THE WATER UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD TRACKS, BUT WE ARE OFFSETTING IT WITH A LARGE DETENTION POND.

SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT AND THAT IMPROVEMENTS ABOUT $15 MILLION DOLLARS TO DO THAT WORK.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA ON CHENANGO.

CHENANGO IS WHERE THE COURTHOUSE IS.

ALL THE THINGS IN THAT NATURE, RIGHT.

WE IDENTIFIED A SOLUTION TO COME TAKE THAT WATER, PICK IT UP, BRING IT OVER AGAIN.

WE GOT TO CROSS THE RAILROAD TRACK.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS BEEN A MAJOR ISSUE, IS GETTING WATER ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACK RIGHT THERE BY 171. WE'VE IDENTIFIED A WAY OF USING BOX CULVERTS TO HELP MOVE IT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE.

THE BLUE IS THE OLD FLOODING AREAS AND WE'RE REDUCING IT DOWN TO THE RED.

SO WE'RE GIVING SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE AREA.

AND EVEN THOUGH THE THE FOOTPRINT IN THE RED MAY STILL BE THERE, BUT THE AMOUNT OF FLOOD OR THE DEPTH OF THE FLOODING HAS BEEN REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND THESE ARE ALL 100 YEAR STORM HURRICANE LEVEL EVENTS WHERE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T HANDLE RIGHT NOW SMALLER EVENTS.

SO THAT ONE COMES OUT TO ABOUT 14,000,400.

SO YOU'VE DONE THE STUDIES, YOU'VE DONE IDENTIFIED SOLUTIONS ON THIS.

NOW ON BOTH OF THESE, WE'VE TRIED MULTIPLE OCCASIONS TO GET FUNDING FOR THESE THESE DRAINAGE PROJECTS AND ANGLETON'S SUCCESS IS ALSO KIND OF YOUR DETRIMENT AS FAR AS YOU GETTING THESE FUNDINGS.

AS PART OF THESE FUNDINGS, YOU HAVE TO DO A THING CALLED A COST ANALYSIS, A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS WHERE BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO DO THESE PROJECTS.

AND YOU HAVE TO SAY, IF WE DO THIS PROJECTS, IT'S GOING TO SAVE THIS MUCH MONEY BY REDUCING THE FLOODING AND STRUCTURES.

THING WITH ANGLETON, YOU DON'T HAVE FLOODING IN STRUCTURES.

SO IN ORDER TO MEET THESE GRANT THESE REQUIREMENTS IN THE GRANT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS ABOVE ONE.

AND THERE'S JUST NO STRUCTURAL FLOODING TO SAY THIS IS THE COST THAT WE'RE SAVING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GET INTO PEOPLE'S HOUSES.

BUT THE GOOD THING ON THIS IS, IS TXDOT WANTS TO IMPROVE 35 AT SOME POINT IN TIME THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF ANGLETON AND CONNECT THE FOUR LANE ROADS FROM THE NORTH SIDE ON NORTH OR SOUTH OF 288, GOING BACK TO WEST COLUMBIA AND WANT TO GO BACK UP NORTH ALL THE WAY EVENTUALLY TO ALVIN, WHERE IT'S FOUR LANE ROAD. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THE SUPER TWO.

THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A PRELIMINARY LAYOUT WHERE THEY'RE SPLIT 35 IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN AND THEY'VE DONE A DRAINAGE ANALYSIS OF THIS AREA PREVIOUSLY SEVERAL TIMES.

TXDOT IS UNABLE TO FIND A SOLUTION DUE TO THE LACK OF RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACES TO TAKE THE WATER.

OUR STUDIES FOUND A WAY TO DO THAT.

WE'VE MET WITH TXDOT.

THEY'VE SHOWN INTEREST INTO IT.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THEM MULTIPLE TIMES.

AGAIN, THESE THINGS TAKE A LONG TIME.

AS YOU MAY HAVE A PARTNER WITH TXDOT TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING TO THE EAST OF 35.

THE DETENTION POND.

EVERYTHING TO THE WEST THAT WILL PROBABLY BE MORE THE CITY'S COST.

BUT YOU HAVE A PARTNER NOW POTENTIALLY WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY'VE PUT IN.

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MAYBE THEY MIGHT WANT TO TEAM WITH YOU.

IT'S A CONVERSATION TO HAVE.

SO WE'RE EXAMINING EVERY POTENTIAL POSSIBLE GRANT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AND EVALUATING EVERY EVERY POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP TO FIND MONEY TO IMPLEMENT THESE.

AGAIN, THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THE GRANTS IS THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.

WE CAN'T GET IT ABOVE A ONE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE DAMAGE TO HOUSES.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT FLOODING.

TYPES OF FLOODING STORM EVENTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE EVENT THAT OCCURRED.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE EXISTING SYSTEM WORKS, OUTFALL DEPTHS.

WE TALKED ABOUT SUCCESSES AND WE TALKED ABOUT PLANNING.

SO YOU ALL HAVE DONE A REALLY, REALLY AGGRESSIVE JOB OVER THE LAST TEN, 15 YEARS ON ADDRESSING THIS AND CONTINUE TO LOOK AND SOLVE SOLUTIONS FOR THESE PROJECTS.

WITH THAT, IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER.

I'M SORRY I WAS LONG WINDED, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY NEAR AND DEAR THING TO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITIZENS HERE.

WE PRIDED OURSELVES ON THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T FLOOD IN HARVEY.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF SMALL LITTLE INCIDENTS HERE AND THERE, BUT NOTHING LIKE OUR NEIGHBORS SAW.

I HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME REALLY BASIC THINGS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE ANSWERED AND THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE ASKED, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET ON THE RECORD.

FIRST, YOU TALK ABOUT THE OUTFLOW DITCHES AND YOU CAN ONLY CARRY AS MUCH WATER AS THE OUTFLOW DITCHES CAN GET OUT.

RIGHT. HOW ARE WE DOING ON MAINTAINING THE OUTFLOW DITCHES? HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE OURS AND HOW MANY ARE THE DRAINAGE DISTRICTS AND HOW WELL MAINTAINED WERE THEY BEFORE THIS FLOOD? I WILL COORDINATE WITH ADD, ALL THE MAIN OUTFALL DITCHES ARE MAINTAINED BY ADD, OKAY.

NOT THE CITY.

IF YOU RIDE DOWN THERE AND LOOK AT THEM, I MEAN, THEY THEY APPEAR TO BE WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY MAINTENANCE RECORD OR MAINTENANCE PLANS.

I CAN ASK THAT QUESTION OR FOLLOW UP.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE BIG MASSIVE DITCHES.

AND EVEN AS [INAUDIBLE] SAID.

YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAD A TEN INCH RAIN BEFORE, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAD THESE LARGER RAIN EVENTS BEFORE THEY WERE OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, MORE THAN LIKELY, THIS WAS A VERY INTENSE RAIN EVENT.

WELL, THE KEY WORD THERE WAS MORE THAN LIKELY, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW.

BUT WE DO KNOW THAT IT'S HAPPENED.

WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST AND SOME RESIDENTS SAY, I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM LIKE THIS BEFORE.

AND I REMEMBER AND JAMIE, IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, GO BACK AND LOOK UP MEMORIAL DAY FLOOD OF 2008 OR 2007, THERE WAS SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST HAD, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THE DATA ON THAT.

IT WAS MEMORIAL DAY OF EITHER 07 OR 08.

I WANT TO SAY IT WAS 08, BUT THAT WAS WHEN HERITAGE PARK FIRST CAME TO US AND SAID, HEY, WE FLOODED.

AND THERE WAS A LOT OF ISSUES OVER THERE.

AND I KNOW WE'VE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THAT, BUT WE HAD A PACKED COUNCIL CHAMBERS FROM PEOPLE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THE QUESTION THAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT'S BEING DONE TO MAINTAIN THE OUTFLOWS AND HOW DO WE GET THAT ON A SCHEDULE AND REPORTING THAT SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T THEY SEE GRASS GROWING IN THE DITCHES OR THEY SEE AREAS THAT THEY, IN THEIR MINDS, IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED.

HECTOR, I CALLED YOU ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] AND I WENT OVER THERE YESTERDAY AND IT STILL DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S BEEN FIXED.

THERE'S STILL WATER STANDING IN THE DITCHES OVER THERE AND THE HALF OF THE CULVERT IS STILL COVERED UP.

SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

AND I KNOW WE'RE WORKING AS HARD AS WE CAN ON THIS STUFF.

WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE SUMMER, BUT I THINK IT'S BEST TO START PRESENTING THAT IN A WAY THAT THE CITIZENS CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW UNLESS IT'S REPORTED.

SO WE ASKED HGR TO CREATE BASICALLY AN OVERLAY FOR US SO THAT WE CAN SAY, HEY, THIS DITCH IS NEXT AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT IN THE MONTH OF JULY. GOOD. THIS DITCH IS AFTER THAT IS GOING TO GET DONE IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

WHATEVER. BUT ALSO REMEMBER, SINCE JUNE, WE'VE HAD 311 WATER LEAKS.

ABSOLUTELY. SO EVERY SINGLE CREW MEMBER IS OUT ALL HANDS ON DECK FIXING WATER LEAKS.

AND SO THE NORMAL THINGS, BECAUSE WE HAD RAIN IN THE PAST AND NOT BEEN IN THE SITUATION, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO AND WORK THROUGH THE DITCHES OR LIKE WHEN WE SAW A HURRICANE COME AND, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE PROBLEM SPOTS.

BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT OPTION.

BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU THEN WOULD BE WE TALK ABOUT WATER LINE BREAKS, BUT WOULDN'T THAT BE PARKS DOING THE MOWING, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE DITCHES?

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IF PUBLIC WORKS IS BUSY DOING THE WATER LINE BREAKS.

THEY DO ALL THE MOWING OF THE THE DITCHES WE DON'T.

PUBLIC WORKS DON'T HAVE THEM OVER RIGHT SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE ALSO AT ONE POINT SPECIFICALLY ON COUNCIL DECIDED TO HIRE TWO PEOPLE FOR DOING NOTHING BUT DITCH MAINTENANCE. BUT I KNOW WE'VE ABSORBED THAT IN.

THAT WAS YEARS AGO.

MAYOR YOU CAN PRETTY WELL EXPECT THAT ONCE THE WATER PASSES UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACK, WHATEVER OUTFALL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT BECOMES ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT'S TASK. THE CITY DOESN'T MOW OR MAINTAIN THE MAJOR OUTFALLS OF THE MATTER OF SEMANTICS.

HERE, ONE PERSON'S MAJOR DITCH IS ANOTHER PERSON'S MINOR DITCH, BUT THE MAJOR OUTFLOW OUTFALLS, THE BIG ONES, ARE MAINTAINED BY THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

AND THE EXPERIENCE I'VE HAD WITH THEM IS THEY THEY HAVE A CERTAIN ROTATION OF WHAT DITCHES THEY GO TO AND MOW SPRAY.

THEY HAVE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE, A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT THEY ADHERE TO.

THAT'S DOWNSTREAM OF THE MINOR DITCHES THAT THE CITY MAINTAINED.

I WASN'T I WASN'T REFERRING TO THE OUTFLOWS.

I BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER, BUT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ONES WE MAINTAIN.

OKAY. OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH.

I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY OPEN AND HONEST WITH THE CITIZENS AND MAKING SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE RAIN EVENTS THAT ARE MORE AND CITIZENS ARE SAYING, I NEVER HAD WATER BEFORE LIKE THIS.

NOW, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE DROUGHT AND THE GROUND WAS HARD.

IT WASN'T ABSORBING AS FAST.

I MEAN, THAT'S A LEGITIMATE REASON FOR SURE.

AND I AGREE. I SAW IT ALL OVER TOWN.

JUST THE INTENSITY IS I MEAN, IT.

JUST THEY COULDN'T SOAK IT UP.

I MEAN, IT WAS JUST THE GROUND WAS SO ROCK HARD THAT IT WAS JUST BUBBLING UP.

IT JUST WASN'T SEEPING IN LIKE IT NORMALLY WOULD.

SO I THINK THAT INTENSITY THAT'S THE KEY WORD.

YEAH. THE INTENSITY IS, THE KICKER.

IF YOU WERE TO HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, IF IT WAS JUST KEEP RAINING AS HARD AS IT DID IN THIS SIX HOUR PERIOD FOR 24, JUST 12 HOURS, WE'D HAVE 17IN OF RAIN.

WE WOULD HAVE AN ATLAS, 14 RAIN, 100 YEAR STORM EVENT IN 12 HOURS.

THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS CITY.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS COUNTY THAT CAN MAINTAIN THAT CAN HANDLE THAT TYPE OF FLOOD UNLESS YOU DUMP IT INTO THE INTERCOASTAL CANAL OR SOMETHING.

BUT IT'S SCARY.

YOU WAKE UP AND YOU WALK OUTSIDE YOUR FRONT DOOR AND ALL YOU SEE IS WATER AND IT'S STILL RAINING.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO STOP, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS IT'S ALARMING.

IT HAPPENED TO ME IN 1979.

I WALKED OUT THE FRONT DOOR OF MY HOUSE.

THAT WAS BEFORE THE REC CENTER AND ALL THAT WAS IN THERE.

THE WATER WAS ALL THE WAY ACROSS CANNAN DRIVE.

THAT WAS THE CLAUDETTE STORM OF 79.

AND THAT WAS LIKE ALL I COULD DO WAS SAY AND COME LOOK AT THIS.

IT WAS WATER WAS EVERYWHERE.

WHAT A SHOCKER. YEAH.

AND JUST FOR ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT INTENSITY, AND THIS IS ONE WAY THAT MADE SENSE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IS I'VE BEEN OUT TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND I'VE HAD SOMEBODY COME UP AND SAY, WELL, IT RAINED THREE INCHES LAST YEAR AND I DIDN'T FLOOD.

AND THEN IT RAINED THREE INCHES LAST NIGHT.

WE GOT WATER STANDING EVERYWHERE.

SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR SYSTEM? THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3 INCHESE IN 2 HOURS VERSUS THREE INCHES IN EIGHT, NINE HOURS ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT.

SURE. THE OTHER QUESTION THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS AROUND THE PUMPS.

REMEMBER, JEFF, I CALLED YOU ON THAT ONE.

WAS IT RUNNING? NO, WE HAD OKAY. IT DIDN'T RESET.

THANK YOU. THAT'S THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS WE ARE TAKING THE ACTIONS TO MAKE SURE THESE PUMPS ARE RUNNING AND PROVIDING FAIL SAFE OR BACKUP TO WHERE THERE'S POWER, LIKE IN THE CASE WHERE IT LOST POWER.

DOES THAT ONE HAVE A GENERATOR ON IT? NO, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.

ESPECIALLY THAT AREA.

HAVE A QUICK CONNECT OR WE CAN HOOK A PORTABLE GENERATOR TO IT.

IT REALLY NEEDS A.

YEAH, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT TRIANGLE, IT'S IN A HOLE AND THEY RELY ON THAT ONE PUMP TO GET THAT WATER OUT OF THERE.

THEY GO DOWN LOW THAT'S ONLY FLOOD PUMP IN ANGLETON.

YEAH. THAT'S THE ONLY PUMP THAT PUMPS WATER.

IS THAT WILL YEAH. AS SOON AS I SAW THAT, I DROVE BY IT, I WAS LIKE, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S ON.

SO THANK YOU FOR GOING OUT THERE AND BEING QUICK ON IT.

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YEAH, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCIL.

MAYOR ARE ON MEMORIAL DAY IT WAS 3.36.

OF 07 OR 08.

07. 07.

WOW. WHAT WAS THE TIME SPAN, DO YOU KNOW? I DIDN'T PULL THAT DATA.

OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE WHERE WE HAD TO PACK COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

I REMEMBER THAT. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR INFORMATION.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. THANKS AGAIN, JOHN.

NO PROBLEM. ITEM NUMBER 11 UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 60% SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE INVESTMENT GRADE AUDIT CONTRACT WITH SCHNIEDER ELECTRIC

[11. Update, discussion and possible action on the 60% scope of work for the Investment Grade Audit contract with Schnieder Electric.]

. JOHN. OPEN UP.

GO AHEAD. SO THIS MIGHT SEEM LIKE DEJA VU BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING.

I'LL CALL IT A FAILURE ON MY PART, BUT WE NEEDED SOME DIRECTION AND ACTION OUT OF THE COUNCIL.

WHETHER YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE, WHETHER WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT, WHICH ALL HAVE IMPLICATIONS BEFORE THEY GO TO THE 90%.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE LAST MEETING.

GOOD NEWS IS THERE'S ABOUT TWO MONTHS BEFORE MY NEXT EVALUATION, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THIS.

[LAUGHTER] BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT DEBORAH AND SCHNEIDER DID A GREAT JOB.

THE OTHER FAILURE IS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE ON THE SCREEN, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME HANDOUTS IN FRONT OF YOU IN VERY BIG FORMAT, WHICH SHOULD BE EASIER TO READ AND THEN ASK DEBORAH AND BRIAN QUESTIONS.

SO HOW'S THAT? I DON'T THINK.

IS THIS WORKING? YEAH, IT IS.

WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRIS.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND WE'RE BRINGING YOU PROJECTS.

YOU ASKED FOR THAT LAST TIME WE WERE HERE.

THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE LARGER HANDOUTS? WE CHANGED THE COLOR.

I'M NOT SURE THIS PRESENTATION ACTUALLY HAS THE CHANGED COLOR.

NO, IT DOES NOT. SO THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE IS A DIFFERENT COLOR.

IT IS THE SAME DATA.

IT'S JUST SO THAT IT'S CLEARER AND ON A BIGGER SPREADSHEET.

CAN YOU PUT THAT? IS THAT.

OH, I SEE. YOU'VE GOT THAT IN A DOCUMENT.

THAT'S FINE. SO LAST TWO WEEKS AGO, WE WENT THROUGH THE SCOPE THAT WE HAD PROPOSED AND WE WENT THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

THE FIRST OPTION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY TEAM WAS ABOUT A $14 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, AND THAT WAS ALL INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES THAT WE COULD FIND, ALSO INCLUDING THE NEEDS OF THE CITY THAT WERE EXPRESSED TO US THROUGH THE THREE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD PRIOR TO THE 60%.

AND WE HAD AN OPTIMIZED PROJECT THAT'S ABOUT 6.5 MILLION.

AND THEN WE HAD A MINIMIZED PROJECT THAT WAS ABOUT 1.7 MILLION.

THE LIEN FROM THE CITY TEAM WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE $6.5 MILLION PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE TAX INCENTIVE THAT'S AVAILABLE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY REGARDING YOUR POWER BUY WITH YOUR UTILITY PROVIDER.

YOU ALL HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.

WE DON'T HAVE THIS ANYWHERE, CERTAINLY NOT ON ANY OF MY CLIENTS WHERE THE CITY IS PAYING $0.04 A KILOWATT IN A TEN YEAR CONTRACT.

SO THAT'S REALLY FORTUITOUS FOR YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT THE COST OF UTILITIES ARE TODAY.

WE HAVE ESTIMATED, AND IN TALKING WITH YOUR UTILITY, IF THAT CONTRACT WAS SIGNED TODAY, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT $0.08 AND IT WILL EXPIRE IN ABOUT SIX YEARS.

AND WE'RE ESTIMATING WITH THE UTILITY THAT IT'LL BE AROUND $0.13 TO RENEW THAT CONTRACT.

I WILL TELL YOU, CHRIS, DOES A.

CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THE COST TO BE? $0.13 A KILOWATT? BUT I WILL TELL YOU, CHRIS WHITTAKER HAS DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB IN GETTING THAT CONTRACT FOR YOU.

AS I SAID, FOR IT TO BE SO INEXPENSIVE, THAT KILOWATT HOUR AT $0.04, I CAUTION AND JUST GIVE YOU INFORMATION IN ADVANCE THAT YOUR UTILITY COMPANY IS GOING TO ROMANCE YOU HARD ABOUT TWO YEARS BEFORE THE CONTRACT IS DUE TO EXPIRE BECAUSE OF THE UTILITY RATE THAT YOU'RE PAYING.

SO IN TALKING WITH THE CITY TEAM AND LOOKING AT THE SIX AND ONE HALF MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, THE REASON WHY THAT WAS THE BEST PROJECT FOR THE CITY IS BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT INCENTIVE TAX CREDIT, WILL AFFORD THE CITY UP TO 40% THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED NOW.

ACTUALLY, IT'S 60% UP TO 60% REFUND BASICALLY ON THE INSTALLATION OF YOUR SOLAR FIELDS.

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THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ANGLETON IS BECAUSE THE SOLAR FIELDS THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED FOR YOU WILL ALLOW YOU TO SELL BACK KILOWATTS TO THE UTILITY.

THE BUYBACK TODAY IS ESTIMATED AT $0.10 A KILOWATT.

SO YOU'RE $0.06 IN THE PLUS FOR EVERY KILOWATT THAT YOU CAN SELL BACK TO THE UTILITY.

NOW, IN THAT IT TAKES TIME TO GET THE SOLAR FIELDS INSTALLED AND TO GET PRODUCT HERE.

TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS, WE WERE HOPEFUL, FOR DIRECTION BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED THEN AND AS RYAN STOUT, WHO WAS ON THE PHONE WITH US TWO WEEKS AGO, MENTIONED, THAT WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT 10 TO 12% INCREASE IN LABOR COSTS, ANTICIPATE 15% IN LABOR COSTS PROBABLY IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

SO MOVING ON, THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE COST DOWN.

WE'VE ALREADY PRICED EVERYTHING OUT.

WE LITERALLY ARE JUST A FEW WEEKS FROM DRAWING THE INK ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND LEVERAGING THE TAX CREDIT.

SO THE TAX CREDIT THAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE CITY DOESN'T PAY TAXES, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWING THE CITY TO MONETIZE THAT TAX CREDIT.

SO WE'RE ESTIMATING A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION BACK TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR THE SOLAR PROJECT, WHICH IS ESTIMATED ABOUT $5 MILLION.

AND SO THAT'S HUGE.

THAT IS MONEY BACK TO YOU.

AS WELL AS PROVIDING YOU REVENUE GENERATION FOR THE CITY.

I ALSO MENTIONED TWO WEEKS AGO THAT THE REVENUE GENERATION IS NOT IN CASH.

IT'S A CREDIT TO YOUR UTILITY BILL WHICH WILL ALLOW YOU TO MOVE YOUR DOLLARS IN YOUR BUDGET.

SO YOU'RE A LITTLE ADVANCE OF ME, SO LET ME JUST GO BACK TO THE SCOPE.

SO KEEP GOING ONE MORE.

THERE YOU GO. SO THE LARGE HANDOUT THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCOPE MAP, THAT WAS AN ANIMATED CONVERSATION SO THAT YOU COULD SEE EACH OF THE FACILITIES AND WHAT ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURE I'M GOING TO SAY, SO THAT IT'S EASIER WHAT ECM WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO THAT FACILITY.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, PARKS AND REC IS GETTING THE MOST ATTENTION, WHICH ALSO IS THE JEWEL FOR THE CITY.

IT'S WHERE YOUR CITIZENS GO.

SO ON THE RIGHT IS THE LEGEND AND THE LEGEND WILL SHARE TO THE LEFT IN EACH OF THOSE FACILITIES WHAT IS GOING THERE.

SO IN THAT YOU'LL SEE THERE'S THREE FACILITIES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE SOLAR AND THE SOLAR APPLICATIONS IN SOME PLACES ARE ACTUALLY CARPORT APPLICATIONS, WHICH IS GREAT FOR YOUR CITIZENS.

AND IT'S UP OFF THE GROUND.

YOUR CITIZENS CAN SEE THAT RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON WITH ANY OF THAT.

YES. CAN YOU CLARIFY THE POINT ABOUT THE GRANTS AND WHAT THE TIMING IS? AND THERE IS A SUNSET ON THE GRANTS.

THE WAY THE GRANTS WORK IS, SCHNEIDER WILL WORK WITH YOU.

WE KNOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A FULL TIME GRANT WRITER, AND SO WE'LL WORK WITH YOU TO POPULATE THE DOCUMENTS TO LET THE GOVERNMENT KNOW THAT YOUR SOLAR FIELDS ARE IN DESIGN AND THAT THAT'S YOUR INTENT.

WE ALSO POPULATE THAT WITH HOW MUCH WE EXPECT THE TAX INCENTIVE TO BE FOR YOU, AND IN THAT YOU CAN GET THE MONEY MONETIZED AFTER THE SOLAR FIELDS ARE IN FULL OPERATION.

AND SO BY MOVING FORWARD NOW, THE SOLAR FIELDS GO IN NEXT YEAR.

IF THEY'RE IN FULL OPERATION NEXT YEAR, THE FOLLOWING TAX YEAR, YOU CAN TAKE THAT TAX CREDIT.

THERE IS A SUNSET ON THIS, WHICH IS 2025, AND THAT SUNSET WILL DISALLOW ANY MORE OF THE TAX CREDIT.

NOW THAT COULD CHANGE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

SECOND THING TO THAT IS THIS IS A POPULAR GRANT, I'M SURE YOU CAN IMAGINE.

AND WE HAVE K-12 THAT ARE PUTTING IT IN.

I HAVE UNIVERSITIES THAT ARE PUTTING IT IN AND MOVING TOWARDS ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, WHICH I THINK ALL MAJOR ENTITIES ARE LOOKING TO DO TO BE AS ENERGY INDEPENDENT AS YOU CAN BE.

SO THE SOLAR FIRST ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT IN THOSE FACILITIES AND SECOND, AGAIN, ALLOWS YOU REVENUE GENERATION.

AND THIRD, THE TIMING ON THIS IS OPTIMUM BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE ALL THE DESIGN.

YOU DON'T HAVE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR LEAD TIME.

THE CITY WAS ALREADY ENGAGED IN THIS.

WE DISCOVERED THIS EARLY ON AND AND WE'RE READY TO GO WITH THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT, CHRIS.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME ABOUT THAT.

ON THE SCOPE ITEMS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THERE? SO WHERE ARE THE SOLAR PANELS GOING TO BE MOUNTED? PARDON? WHERE ARE THE SOLAR PANELS GOING TO BE MOUNTED? SO THERE'S. THIS IS BRIAN HUNTER.

BRIAN, I WAS ON THE PHONE LAST NIGHT FOR SOME TIME.

THERE ARE THE THREE ARRAYS IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE REC CENTER.

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AND THE THIRD ARRAY WOULD KIND OF STRADDLE THE BORDER BETWEEN THE REC CENTER PARKING LOT AND THE BACK OF THE POLICE STATION PARKING LOT.

YOU HAVE THAT GLOW UP THERE.

SO THEY'RE ELEVATED? YES. THOSE WOULD BE CARPORTS SO PEOPLE COULD PARK UNDER THEM FOR SHADE.

AND THEN AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WOULD BE GROUND MOUNTED INSIDE THE FENCE.

BRIAN THE ONE WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR AREA TO PUT SOLAR PANELS ON OR WAS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON FOR GOING TO THE SEWER PLANT WITH AN ARRAY? YEAH, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN OPEN AREA THERE THAT WAS ALREADY FENCED IN.

AND ALSO THERE'S A VERY LARGE AND CONSTANT LOAD FOR THE POWER THERE.

LIKE IF YOU TRIED TO PUT THEM INTO THE PARK OR SOMEPLACE LIKE THAT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ELECTRICITY THERE, BUT WASTEWATER PLANT HAS A LOT OF ENERGY USE.

SO IT'S A GOOD THE REASON I ASKED THAT IS THAT ONCE YOU, MY ATTENTION WAS DRAWN TO THE SEWER PLANT THAT ONCE THE SOLAR PANELS WERE PLACED THERE THAT'S ABOUT ALL YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IF THERE WAS EVER SOME THOUGHT OF EXPANDING THE SEWER PLANT THERE, YOU'D BE PRETTY MUCH HINDERED.

IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A FOOTPRINT AREA TO PUT SOLAR PANELS, THERE IS A DETENTION POND AREA BEHIND THE RECREATION CENTER, WHICH IS ABOUT TWICE THAT MUCH SPACE.

AND ALL IT'S GOING TO DO IS HOLD WATER WHEN WE GET A BIG RAIN EVENT.

THE REST OF THE TIME IT'S DRY.

NOBODY GOES IN THERE AND PLAYS.

NOT SUPPOSED TO KEEP KIDS OUT OF THERE, BUT THAT'S A MUCH BIGGER AREA THAT'S GOT FULL SUNSHINE, 365. YEAH, WE TALKED TO PARKS ABOUT AND ABOUT THE OPEN GRASSY AREA ADJACENT TO THE REC CENTER.

I THINK THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO KEEP THAT CLEAR.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DETENTION POND AND NOBODY USES IT EXCEPT FOR GOD WHEN IT RAINS.

OKAY. RIGHT.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HAVING THEM INSTALLED SOMEWHERE THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO FLOOD.

WELL, YOU WOULDN'T BE FLOODING IT.

YOU PUT THEM UP ON A POLE.

LIKE I'VE SEEN THEM ALL OUT IN THE PRAIRIE OUT HERE.

SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, TOO.

YES, SIR. BUT REALLY, YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM SOMEPLACE THAT'S CLOSE TO A SOURCE THAT'S GOING TO UTILIZE THAT POWER.

SO THE LONGER YOU PUT IT AWAY, YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD THAT ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET THE POWER IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A I'M TRYING TO GET THE DISCUSSION OUT HERE SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT ALL WORKS OUT, BUT.

SO IT'S A SHORTER RUN FROM THE SOLAR ARRAY AT THE WATER WASTEWATER PLANT TO THE BUS, I GUESS.

YEAH. YEAH. TO THE MAIN SERVICE.

YEAH. AND THE PANELS IT'S FOR A LITTLE POWER THAT'S GENERATED.

SO IT COMES IN JUST LIKE THE POWER FROM THE UTILITY.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT COUNCILMAN.

WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE OTHER SITE THERE YEAH, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE THAT TO BE LOOKED INTO BECAUSE I HAD CONSULTED A INDEPENDENT ENERGY RENEWABLE SPECIALIST AND CARPORT SOLAR PANELS ARE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE IN A HURRICANE AREA.

THEY HAVE TO BE.

IT'S A STRUCTURE THAT'S LIKE, YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT? IT'S INSANE.

AND THEN THE INSURANCE THAT WE'D HAVE TO DO TO COVER IT AND THEIR CURRENT BUYBACK RATES ARE NOT 10%, IT'S 3% FOR ELECTRICITY SELL BACK.

SO YEAH, WE GOT SOME HISTORICAL DATA FROM TXU.

IT'S BASICALLY THE BUYBACK RATE IS ON SPOT MARKET.

IT'S REAL TIME. AND SO WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF THE SIZE OF THE SYSTEMS VERSUS THE ELECTRIC LOAD IN THE BUILDINGS.

SO WE COULD FIGURE OUT IN 15 MINUTE INTERVALS THROUGHOUT A YEAR WHEN THERE WOULD BE EXCESS GENERATION AND WHAT THE RATE WAS LAST YEAR AT THAT 15 MINUTE INTERVAL FOR BUYBACK.

AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR BETWEEN THE POLICE STATION AND THE REC CENTER, THAT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT $0.10.

BUT THAT WAS BASED ON JUST HISTORICAL DATA FROM 2010.

AND THIS IS AN ENGINEER WHO WORKS WITH THE SALES DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T OVERSELL WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE PROJECTS AND MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.

SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING ONE FOR A DATA CENTER AND A TUGBOAT, ELECTRIC TUGBOATS IN CALIFORNIA.

SO THAT'S WHERE I GOT THE INFORMATION FROM.

A GOOD POINT. IS THERE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE EXPENSE THAT IT WOULD COST TO, SAY, LAY THE SOLAR PANELS ON THE GROUND AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT VERSUS THOSE THAT WOULD BE ON TOP OF A CARPORT? YES, [INAUDIBLE] IT'S DEFINITELY CHEAPER.

SO WHY WOULD THAT NOT BE MAYBE A BETTER? IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN.

WELL, AT THE POLICE STATION AND AT THE REC CENTER, AT LEAST IN THE GRASSY AREA ADJACENT TO BOTH OF THOSE BUILDINGS WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT LAND WAS KIND OF RESERVED

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FOR FUTURE EXPANSION FOR EACH OF THOSE FACILITIES.

I WOULD SUSPECT AS MUCH I WANT US TO, BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE OTHER CITY LAND.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING.

YEAH. WE TOLD THEM NOT TO PLAN FOR THAT AREA FOR.

WHAT ABOUT ROOFTOPS? YEAH, ESPECIALLY ON THE REC CENTER.

THE POLICE STATION ROOFTOP IS KIND OF SLOPE STANDING SEAM, AND THE REC CENTER IS KIND OF INTERSPERSED WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ON THE ROOF.

SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FLAT OPEN ROOF, UNFORTUNATELY.

OKAY. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SCOPE? BUT AS YOU HEARD, THEY'RE OPEN TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

IT'S JUST KIND OF PRESENTING A PLAN.

YEAH, I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PRICE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE SHOCKING.

THE CARPORT VERSUS LAND.

YEAH. AND SO COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL, WE TALKED WITH PARKS AND WE TALKED WITH THE WASTEWATER AND THEY WERE IN OUR MEETINGS AND VETTED BACK AND FORTH. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HERE? AND IT COULD GO THERE AND, AND THEN ALSO TRYING TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE CAN GET FOR THE INCENTIVE AS WELL AS GENERATE TO SELL BACK. SO THIS IS NOT SET IN STONE.

IF THIS WAS WHERE YOU'D LIKE IT TO GO, WE'RE NEARLY READY.

AND ANOTHER THING WITH REC'S DEPARTMENT SINCE WE REALLY COULDN'T EXPAND AROUND THE BUILDING BECAUSE I KNOW IS IT A TEAR DOWN AND WE START OVER OR ARE WE GOING TO ADD ON TO THIS BUILDING OR NOT? THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT WITH THE CARPORTS ALREADY BEING THERE THAT'S UTILIZING SPACE THAT'S THERE NOW, THE STRUCTURE CAN BE BUILT TO SUPPORT THAT, AND THEN IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY POSSIBLY TO CONSIDER RENTING THE SPACE OR BUYING THE SPACE FOR THE FOLKS THAT COME TO THE REC CENTER TO BE ABLE TO PARK UNDERNEATH THE CARPORTS.

SO THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD AND DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT WERE SHARED.

BUT IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY WHEREVER THOSE GET PUT.

SO AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT ON THAT, CHRIS.

SO THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE SIX AND A HALF, $7 MILLION DOLLAR PROGRAM.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONE THAT GIVES US, YOU KNOW, THE SERIOUS ENERGY REDUCTION.

IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY BACK.

AND THAT'S THE SOLAR PROGRAM.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU THINK OF OUR DIDN'T WE SAY OUR ELECTRIC BILL WAS LIKE $400,000.

YEAH. FOR THE SITES THAT WE AUDITED, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY BUILDINGS AND THE PARKS THAT HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF ELECTRICAL USE.

SO $400,000. SO WHEN YOU TAKE THAT AND YOU JUST SAY IT'S $0.08, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOW THE BILL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET THE STICKER SHOCK IN ABOUT FOUR YEARS OF WHAT THAT FUTURE BILL IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE I GUESS.

AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STAFF WORK WITH THIS.

AGAIN, WE'RE NOT HUNG UP ON IT'S GOT TO BE IN A PARKING LOT FOR SOLAR OR YOU KNOW PARTICULAR PLACE, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

ALL THOSE IDEAS ARE GREAT.

THAT'S JUST OUR INPUT RIGHT? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ALL THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE UNCOVERED THAT SIT OUT THERE DAY AFTER DAY WHEN THEY'RE NOT BEING USED AND INCLUDING EMPLOYEE VEHICLES.

AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THEM UNDER SHADE AS WELL AS GENERATE THE POWER CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF WRECKED VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED IN THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PARKING LOT.

THAT'S IT OVER THERE. THE TWO BUSSES AND THE VARIOUS OTHER.

AGAIN, THEY SIT OUT THERE GENERALLY DAY AFTER DAY WHEN THEY'RE NOT BEING USED.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO NOT HAVE TO LOOK ELSEWHERE AND CREATE OTHER PLACES, FOR EXAMPLE, AROUND THE REC CENTER WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO MAYBE EXPAND IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, PICKLEBALL COURTS OR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONS TO THE FACILITY AND THEN HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RELOCATING SOMETHING.

AND I KNOW, MAYOR, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THIS EVENING, THE RECOGNITION YOU ALL RECEIVED AT TML.

WE ALSO SPONSOR AT TML AND WE GO THERE ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE, FOLKS THAT ARE TAKING A DIFFERENT PATH AND GETTING PROACTIVE.

AND CERTAINLY THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO DO THAT AND BE RECOGNIZED.

AND AS I MENTIONED, OUR MARKETING AND PR DEPARTMENT IS ALWAYS LOOKING TO WORK WITH OUR CLIENTS ON ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY AND BRINGING INFORMATION OUT AND PROVIDING COLLATERAL FOR YOU TO GIVE TO YOUR CITIZENRY.

WE'D ALSO LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THAT IN THE APPLICATIONS THAT GO TO THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT YOU GO TO AND TO BE RECOGNIZED.

I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER CITY DOING THIS.

I HAVE TWO SCHOOLS.

I HAVE A UNIVERSITY THAT'S DOING THIS.

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PART OF THE SCARE HERE IS OVERSUBSCRIPTION, BECAUSE IT IS SO POPULAR.

THERE'S X NUMBER OF DOLLARS.

IT'S ABOUT $2 BILLION THAT'S BEING OFFERED.

BUT I'M LOOKING AT WHAT I'VE GOT.

THERE'S 30, 40 OF ME IN THE UNITED STATES AND WE'RE ALL LOOKING TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CLIENTS. THANK YOU.

I MEAN, I'VE SAT HERE AND LISTENED.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND ALL THE EFFORTS YOU ALL HAVE MADE INTO THIS.

I GUESS MY POSITION RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS CITY THAT NEED ATTENTION, AND DEBT SERVICE CAPACITY IS VERY MINIMAL.

DO I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD GO SPEND 6.7 MILLION OR EVEN AT THE LOW END OF 1.8, I THINK IS WHAT IT IS ON PUTTING THIS IN WHEN WE'RE ALREADY LOCKED INTO A CONTRACT, THAT'S ANOTHER SIX YEARS IN.

AND I GET IT THAT THERE'S A TIME FRAME AND THERE'S TIMES MOVING AND EVENTUALLY THAT CONTRACT WILL BE UP.

BUT I CAN'T SEE AND JUSTIFY SPENDING MONEY ON A SOLAR PROJECT WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER NEEDS AND DRAINAGE AND STREETS AND ALL THESE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT.

I THINK AT THE MOMENT FOR THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED MONEY.

SO WHERE'S THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK? AND PLUS, WHEN IT COMES TO SOLAR, I STILL FEEL LIKE AND TRUST ME, I HAVE I BELIEVE EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO GET THERE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THERE YET BECAUSE IN YOUR PRESENTATION THERE IS NO BATTERY, RIGHT? ALL WE'RE DOING IS GENERATING POWER AND SELLING IT OR USING IT AND THAT'S IT.

SO IT'S STILL VERY INEFFICIENT AS A SYSTEM BECAUSE UNLESS YOU STORE IT, THEN YOU'RE CONTINGENT ON SUNLIGHT AND SOLAR. AND TO ME, YOU KNOW, I'VE EVEN GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH IN THE PRIVATE SIDE, IN MY OWN HOUSE WITH THIS, AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD JUSTIFY IT WOULD BE TO PUT THE BATTERY IN.

WELL, THE BATTERIES WERE A CONSIDERATION, AND YOU'RE CORRECT ON THAT.

BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING THIS PROJECT UNDER A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT, AND I HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE COSTS.

SO SAVINGS HAVE TO OFFSET THAT.

AND IF I ADDED THE BATTERIES IN IT, THEY DIDN'T FIT.

AND THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BRING LATER.

YOU WANT TO USE THE POWER THAT IT'S GENERATING, OF COURSE, AND IF YOU CAN SELL IT BACK EVEN BETTER.

SO THE BATTERIES IS TO STORE IT WHEN SOMETHING GOES OFF.

AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, AS I SAID, THE TAX INCENTIVE, YOU GET THAT TWO PLUS MILLION BACK .

ALONG WITH THE UTILITY REBATES I HAVEN'T EVEN REALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT YET, BUT THERE ARE UTILITY REBATES FROM YOUR PROVIDER ONCE THE OTHER ECMS GO IN AND WE DIDN'T REALLY DIVE INTO THE SPREADSHEETS THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU TO LOOK AT EACH OF THOSE AND WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE AND WHAT THE ROI IS FOR THOSE.

BUT THE SOLAR ABSOLUTELY MADE IT WORK.

THE BATTERIES JUST DIDN'T FIT IN THE PROJECT, ALTHOUGH THEY WERE CONSIDERED.

RIGHT. SO THE OTHER THING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT SOLAR ENERGY AND STORAGE SYSTEMS SIX YEARS AGO, TEN YEARS AGO.

THEY'VE COME A LONG WAYS, HAVEN'T THEY? WHY WOULD WE FEEL LIKE THERE? THIS IS THE PEAK THAT IT'S NEVER GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.

SO WE GO AND SPEND THIS MONEY ON A SYSTEM WHEN WE DON'T REALLY NEED IT BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY LOCKED IN A GOOD CONTRACT AND THEN SIX YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE NEED IT.

WE GO TO PUT IT IN AND THEN WE PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER SYSTEM AT THAT POINT.

AND THAT WAS WHY I WAS TRYING TO MAKE MY POINT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

AND HE BELIEVED THAT THE LABOR COSTS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

BUT I BELIEVE FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THE COST OF THE PANELS THEMSELVES, THE MATERIAL COST IS CONSTANTLY GETTING BETTER BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE JUMPING INTO THAT SPACE.

YEAH, IT HAS BEEN KIND OF CYCLICAL AND RIGHT NOW IT IS KIND OF AT AN ALL TIME LOW.

RIGHT. WHICH IS WHY OUR EXPERTS DON'T ANTICIPATE IF WE GO BACK UP AGAIN WITH DEMAND INCREASING, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS FEDERAL PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S ONE REASON FOR ACTING SOONER RATHER THAN LATER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LOW COST OF THE PANELS RIGHT NOW.

SURE.

SO HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION WE HAD LAST WEEK.

THAT WAS LAST WEEK. TWO WEEKS AGO.

TWO WEEKS AGO. SORRY.

LAST VISIT. LAST? YEAH. LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, IT FELT LIKE WE WERE HERE.

IT DID.

YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT DEBT CAPACITY AND IT WAS, I THINK, UP TO $11 MILLION.

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OKAY. SO ARE WE SAYING THAT OF THAT $11 MILLION, WE WOULD BE BASICALLY PUTTING 6.8 OF THAT INTO THIS PROJECT? INITIALLY. BUT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET ITS INITIAL ALSO DID A CASH FLOW ANALYSIS LOOKING AT NUMBERS BECAUSE WE KNOW DATA DRIVES DECISIONS.

CORRECT. AND LOOKING AT HOW THE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY FUNDED.

IF YOU REMEMBER, I'VE SHARED WITH YOU, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU SINCE 2014, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A CHECK WRITTEN TO SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC FOR ANY OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE EVER DONE, AND WE DON'T COLLECT UNTIL WE'RE ACTUALLY IN A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO THE WORK THAT WE DO IS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS TO BRING YOU GOOD AND VALUABLE INFORMATION TO MAKE CLEAR DECISIONS ON.

AND SO LOOKING AT FINANCING YOUR PROJECT, IF YOU WERE TO SAY YES, DEBORAH AND BRIAN, MOVE FORWARD AND FINALIZE THIS AND BRING IT TO US, WE WOULD GO TO OGC, OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL AND GET REVIEW AND APPROVAL FOR SIGNATURE.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING.

THIS IS NOT APPROVING IT THIS EVENING.

THIS IS GIVING ME DIRECTION FOR WHAT YOU'VE DESIGNED.

YES, CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

YOU'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THAT IN OUR IGA.

SO WE WILL FINALIZE THAT AND BRING THAT TO YOU.

THE SECOND THING IS ON THAT CASH FLOW IS WHEN THE PROJECT IS APPROVED AND I'LL SUBMIT YOU A 10% INVOICE FOR MOBILIZATION PURELY. AND IN THAT MOBILIZATION MEETING, IT'S THE KICKOFF LIKE WE HAD BACK IN MAY TO GET STARTED WITH THIS IGA ON.

THIS IS OUR SCOPE, THIS IS OUR GOAL, HERE'S OUR TIMELINE, HERE'S OUR COSTS.

THAT CONTRACT IS A FIXED COST.

IF SOMETHING GOES UP THAT'S ON US, THAT IS NOT ON YOU.

SO THAT IS A GUARANTEE TO THE CITY THAT THE DOLLARS THAT YOU'VE COMMITTED TO ARE THE ACTUAL DOLLARS THAT YOU'LL PAY.

THIRD THING IS, IS THAT HAPPENS THE INVOICES OCCUR ON A MONTHLY BASIS AS WE'RE PUTTING WORK IN.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THE SOLAR PANELS HERE.

AND ONCE THEY'RE HERE AND I CAN START INSTALLING THEM, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD REVENUE THAT WORK, CORRECT? SO IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT THIS PROJECT COULD STRETCH OVER MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR AND THAT YOU COULD UTILIZE THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, A PORTION OF THAT.

YOU'D BE COMMITTING IT THIS YEAR FOR SURE, BUT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT POSSIBLY COULD STRETCH ACROSS JUST DUE TO THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE'VE ESTIMATED 12 TO 16, 18 MONTHS OR SO FOR INSTALL.

AND AT THAT POINT AND TRUST ME, ALL THE PAPERWORK IS ALREADY GONE IN TO THE GOVERNMENT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT MONETIZATION IS COMING.

AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT UP AND RUNNING, THEN WE CAN APPLY FOR THAT CREDIT AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU IN THE NEXT TAX YEAR.

SO THAT TWO SOME ODD MILLION DOLLARS COMES BACK TO EITHER THE BORROWING SOURCE OR WHEREVER YOU WANT TO PLACE THAT.

BUT THAT'S BASICALLY CREDIT BACK.

YOU WILL ALSO SEE A REDUCTION IN YOUR UTILITY CONSUMPTION, WHICH REDUCES WHAT YOU'RE PAYING TO THE UTILITY COMPANY THROUGH THE OTHER ECMS THAT WE'VE DESIGNED THAT AFFECT ALL OF YOUR BUILDINGS, INCLUDING THE LIGHTING PROJECTS.

THE LIGHTING BRINGS SAFETY AND SECURITY TO YOUR PARKS AND UPDATES THOSE BUILDINGS, THE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AND ARMOR THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN. YOU'RE BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEMS, WHICH IS THE COMPUTERS THAT START AND STOP YOUR BUILDING.

IT'S NOT ONLY UPGRADE TO THAT, BUT IT'S TRAINING FOR YOUR PEOPLE TO BE SURE THAT THEY KNOW HOW TO OPTIMIZE THOSE SYSTEMS. AND THEN WE'RE MANAGING THAT WITH THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE A GUARANTEE TO MEET.

IF I DON'T MEET THE GUARANTEE, BASED ON WHAT WE SAID THAT WE WOULD DO, THEN I'LL BE WRITING A CHECK TO THE CITY FOR THAT SHORTFALL.

NOW, I'LL TELL YOU, I DON'T WANT TO WRITE A CHECK EVERY YEAR, SO WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WASN'T WORKING PROPERLY SO THAT WE CAN REMEDY THAT.

BUT THAT MAKES YOU WHOLE.

SO YOU'LL NEVER BE SHORT AND YOUR PAYMENT IS NO MORE THAN WHAT THE GUARANTEE WOULD BE.

SO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PHIL AND WENT OVER ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU COULD FINANCE A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO HOWEVER YOU ALL DO THAT.

WE SHOP THE RATES. THEY'RE VERY REASONABLE RIGHT NOW.

WAIT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT IT'S AFFORDABLE.

AND WE PLUGGED IN 4%, I THINK, IN OUR CASH FLOW ANALYSIS.

YES. FOR THE INTEREST RATE.

YES. SO UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT SOURCE WILL BE, I CAN'T FINALIZE THAT.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS TO CONSIDER THE 6.8.

LET US JUST FINISH THOSE DOCUMENTS, BRING IT BACK TO YOU, SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE A PRESENTATION, WE CAN DO THAT.

LOOK AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR THE SOLAR WHERE THAT MIGHT GO AND MAYBE LOOK AT IT AS GROUND MOUNT INSTEAD OF CARPORTS.

AND THAT'LL SAVE SOME.

ALSO, THAT 6.7 IS REALLY SIX AND A HALF OR SO BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE MOVED THE CHLORINE GENERATION, THE ON SITE CHLORINE GENERATION OUT OF THE PROJECT, WHICH TRULY IT DOES NOT MOVE THE NEEDLE ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

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BUT THAT 200,000 IS SOMETHING THAT PARKS SAID THEY COULD PROBABLY USE TO DECK THE POOL, WHICH IS FINE.

SO IT'S A 24 YEAR PAYBACK OR SOMETHING.

SO IT'S FINANCIALLY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR US.

IT'S SO 18, RIGHT? IT'S 18 YEAR PAYBACK.

OKAY. YEAH. EVEN BETTER.

SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE. [LAUGHTER] SO CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? OF COURSE. YOU TALKED ABOUT PRESENTING ON PERHAPS RELOCATING.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOLAR ITSELF.

SUCH AS, I WANT TO KNOW HOW LONG WE CAN EXPECT TO USE ANY ONE OF THESE, WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE COSTS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE, IF THERE'S A WARRANTY OR SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN ON IT? ANY SORT OF CONTINUING COST TO UPKEEP, NOT JUST THE INITIAL INVESTMENT, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S COMING BACK, WHAT'S GOING TO BE EXPECTED, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY EAT UP OUR BUDGET TO ENSURE TO CONTINUE TO RUN THIS.

I MEAN, JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, IF WE ONCE WE GOT A REC CENTER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO RUN AND MAINTAIN.

THE MODULES HAVE A 30 YEAR WARRANTY WITH A CERTAIN DEGRADATION FACTOR BUILT INTO THAT.

THE OTHER MAIN COMPONENTS, HAVE A TEN YEAR WARRANTY.

THE LOCATION OF ANGLETON DOESN'T REQUIRE FOR THE PANELS TO BE CLEANED BECAUSE YOU GET A FRAME HERE THAT DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY OR NATURALLY.

BUT THERE WOULD BE ANNUAL SERVICE NEEDED JUST TO KIND OF CHECK THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS.

EITHER CITY COULD DO THAT OR HIRE SOMEONE TO COME IN.

WE COULD TAKE THAT COST INTO CASH FLOW PROJECT THAT INCLUDES THAT COST AS WELL I THINK SINCE.

AN ASSET FOR YOU.

AND AND I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER ON THAT, BUT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE I WOULD IMAGINE THE BIGGEST COST WOULD BE INSURANCE FOR THAT.

INSURANCE.

COUNCIL. DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SO SO, DEBORAH, WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU NEED FROM US TONIGHT? FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT? I WOULD LIKE APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT OR AT LEAST APPROVAL TO FINISH UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, THE THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE DIRECT US TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE LOCATIONS WHERE THE SOLAR COULD GO DIFFERENTLY AND THEN THE PRICING DIFFERENTIAL AT THE REC CENTER. AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE OUTSIDE THE REC CENTER OTHER THAN THE PARKING LOT.

SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT EXACTLY HOW TO PLACE THAT AND THEN BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU.

BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL AND I TOLD YOU GUYS, I'M ALWAYS ON YOUR SIDE, WHAT MOVES THE NEEDLE FOR YOU? SO IS IT $1 MILLION? IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.

IS THE CONCERN REALLY THE SOLAR? WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED TO BRING BACK TO YOU THAT'S CLEARER? THAT MAKES THIS PROJECT THE RIGHT PROJECT FOR ANGLETON? I MEAN, THE POINTS THAT I BROUGHT UP WERE MY BIG ISSUES.

OKAY. AND VALID. SO I'LL JUST BE ALL MY CARDS ON THE TABLE HERE.

I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF FOR LOOKING.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT.

YEAH I KNOW WE'RE LOCKED SOMETHING SIX YEARS, YOU KNOW, BUT LONG TERM.

IT'S PROBABLY THE WAY TO GO.

JOHN MAY BE RIGHT THAT EVENTUALLY THE SCIENCE IMPROVES, AS IT ALWAYS DOES.

WE'VE LOCKED IN ANCIENT SCREENS COMPARED TO 30 YEARS FROM NOW? I DON'T KNOW. I WON'T BE AROUND HERE, PROBABLY MAKE THAT DECISION.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I'M BALANCING IT WITH WHAT I PERCEIVE AS OTHER NEEDS IN THE CITY.

AND IT'S NOT THAT THIS IS A BAD IDEA, IT'S JUST THAT PARTLY WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT ARE THINGS THAT I WOULD CAMPAIGN ON, WHICH WOULD BE ROADS AND DITCHES AND OTHER UTILITIES THAT I THINK WOULD PERHAPS GET A BETTER BANG FOR THE BUCK.

AND SO.

YEAH, I KNOW.

NOT THAT IT'S ANY CONCERN OF Y'ALL, BUT WE'VE HAD THIS EYE IN THE SKY PIE, IN THE SKY IDEA ABOUT HENDERSON ROAD AND WHAT IT COULD DO TO CHANGE THE CITY AND IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL OTHER STREETS THAT ARE MAJOR CARRIERS THAT WOULD BENEFIT BOTH FROM BEING PAVED AS WELL

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AS GUTTER STORM SEWERS LIGHTING THE WHOLE ROUND OF IT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT THING, WHICH IS KIND OF TO ME, ALONG THE SAME DEAL LEVEL IS AN ANIMAL SHELTER THAT HAS A VERY SEEMS KIND OF WEIRD, BUT YOU'VE BEEN TO ENOUGH MEETINGS.

YOU KNOW HOW PROUD WE ARE OF OUR ANIMAL SHELTER AND IN ANGLETON AND HOW WE KIND OF SERVICE A WHOLE AREA, NOT JUST THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THEIR ISSUES.

SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE.

IT'S LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT MAY BE NOVEL.

IT DOES SEEM LIKE PERHAPS A GOOD IDEA TO TO ADDRESS.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AS BIG A NEED AS SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS.

THAT'S ALL WHERE I AM.

ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK WITH ECHOING WHAT COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND HAS SAID AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF I'M A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT COUNCILWOMAN, DANIEL SAID.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BEGGING FOR CERTAIN THINGS TO BE DONE IN TOWN.

HARD, FAST THINGS THEY CAN SEE.

THEY WANT A ROAD THAT'S SAFE BY THE JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL THAT THEY CAN PASS THROUGH WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT THEIR KIDS GOING TO GET RUN OVER.

AT THE MOST I COULD SUPPORT WOULD BE THE SMALL 1.7 MILLION PROJECT.

BUT I DON'T THINK I COULD GO ANY HIGHER THAN THAT.

WELL AND THAT PROJECT TAKES CARE OF A LOT OF NEEDS IN YOUR BUILDINGS, AS WELL AS THE LIGHTING UPGRADE THAT PARKS NOT ONLY WANTS NEEDS.

SO WE ALSO I HAVE A BLOW UP OF THAT PROJECT AS WELL TO HAND TO YOU HERE.

I'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU BEFORE WE GO SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT BIGGER.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AND YEAH, AND I THINK WOULD YOU MIND ROLLING TO SEE BECAUSE I HAD SUPPORT SLIDES BEHIND THIS.

DOWN. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE DOWN? SO. RIGHT.

SO I'D SET UP.

WE'VE GOT THE SPREADSHEET IN THERE.

YEAH, SO I HAVE IT PRINTED FOR YOU HERE IN THOSE NEW COLORS SO THAT THEY'RE CLEARER.

COUNCIL. DO I HAVE ACTION? WOULD YOU LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO US WITH THE 1.7 AND THE PROJECT PLAN? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE? YEAH, BECAUSE WE DON'T.

SO WE'RE ALREADY ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO KIND OF PROVIDE.

THE OPTIONS. A FINAL PROPOSAL FOR.

AND IT KIND OF BRINGS THE ENERGY CONSERVATION PROJECT.

AND SO AT THE POINT THAT WE'RE PRESENTING YOU THIS INFORMATION NOW, IT'S KIND OF AT THE 60% MARK IN THE PROCESS, AND THAT'S WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE THREE OPTIONS. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS SOME GUIDANCE ON FOR THE ACTUAL FINAL PROPOSAL.

WHAT SCOPE OF WORK MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THE CITY? AND IF THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE SMALLER PROJECT, THAT'S FINE.

WE'VE GOT ALL THE DATA, THE COST DATA ALREADY TO PUT THAT PROPOSAL TOGETHER, WHICH WE WOULD COME BACK AND PRESENT FOR APPROVAL TO GO TO AN ACTUAL PROJECT.

RIGHT NOW THIS IS REALLY MORE INFORMATIONAL FOR US TO GET FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL ON WHAT THE BEST IDEA IS FOR US OR THE BEST OPTION OF THOSE THREE IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FINAL AS A PROPOSAL.

YES. SO WE'VE GOT THE DATA FOR THAT ALREADY BECAUSE WE COULD BRING THAT BACK IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU CHOOSE TO.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCES.

LIKE FOR THE 1.7 PROJECT, WE HAVE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR LED FOR $440,000.

BUT FOR THE BIGGER 6.7, IT'S $340,000.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW. WHAT? WHY? SO THERE'S CERTAIN FIXED COSTS THAT IT TAKES TO DO THESE PROJECTS.

AND SO AS THE PROJECT SIZE GETS SMALLER, THOSE FIXED COSTS GET ALLOCATED ACROSS FEWER DIFFERENT MEASURES.

SO THAT'S WHY THE COST GOES UP PER MEASURE AS SO I'D JUST OFFER UP TO THE COMMENTS THAT MOST OF YOU ALL MADE ABOUT THE PRIORITIES IN ANGLETON, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ROADS AND WE'VE GOT

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DRAINAGE AND WE'VE GOT SOLAR LIGHTS AND WE'VE GOT SIDEWALKS AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A THING, YOU KNOW.

SO IF WE GO FOR JUST LET'S SAY WE WENT FOR THE 6.7, YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD SCHNIEDER THAT THEY'LL PROMISE US $2 MILLION IN REBATES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BORROW THAT MONEY, IF WE DO THIS TO FINANCE THAT PROJECT, THAT WE GUARANTEE OURSELVES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT REBATE BACK INTO ROADS OR DRAINAGE OR SOME OTHER PROJECT.

SO REALLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE SPENDING 4 MILLION ON THIS AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND 2 MILLION AT SOME FUTURE DATE ON PLUS REBATES AND ENERGY SAVINGS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS TOWARD OTHER PROJECTS.

IF WE COULD HAVE A LEGAL GUARANTEE OF GETTING THAT MUCH BACK IN REBATE AND IT WOULD BE A MORE POSITIVE PATHWAY, BUT ALSO TO PROTECT US, LIKE IF IT COMES DOWN TO IT AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH NO, IT'S LIKE 700 GRAND.

AND IT'S LIKE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PROMISING IN THIS.

YES AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM, THE STATE'S PROGRAM FOR ENERGY CONSERVATION PROJECTS, ALL THE SAVINGS ANALYSIS THAT WE DO GETS VETTED BY AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY ENGINEER. AND THEN THAT WILL BE THE EVENTUAL CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT, WILL HAVE SOME SECTIONS IN THERE ABOUT THE MEASUREMENT, VERIFICATION AND DOCUMENTATION.

[INAUDIBLE] SAVINGS ARE SET OUT AT AND SCHNIEDER WRITES A CHECK FOR THE DIFFERENCE.

AND THAT CAN ALL BE I'M SURE WE'LL BE REVIEWED BY YOUR LEGAL TEAM AS WELL.

AND THOSE CONTRACTS ARE THERE IN THE CITY FOR REVIEW.

COUNCILWOMAN DANIELS I SHARE THE SAME CONCERN.

COUNCIL. DO I HAVE ACTION? GOING ONCE.

CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YOU WOULD LIKE? I MEAN, THERE'S NO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY ACTION COMING FROM COUNCIL.

DO YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK, AS WITH MAYBE A SHARPENED PENCIL ON COST AND THINGS LIKE THAT OF WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE? OR DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT HERE? I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE AT DECISION TIME.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LENGTH IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO PUT SOLAR IN AND THE REBATES THAT ARE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT BUYBACK AT A HIGHER RATE, WHICH IT IS RIGHT NOW VERSUS OUR CURRENT RATE.

SO THERE'S THAT SAVINGS.

YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS GO OFF THE TABLE.

AND WILL THINGS BE DIFFERENT IN 4 OR 5 YEARS AND WHAT GRANTS AND REBATES? YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GET CLOSE TO SPECULATING, BUT THIS IS THE WINDOW.

AND AGAIN, UNLESS YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR SCHNEIDER THAT THEY NEED TO BRING BACK, I MEAN, IT'S DECISION TIME.

DO WE DO IT OR NOT? OKAY.

ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO ACTION COMING FROM COUNCIL UNLESS LAST CHANCE COUNCIL ANY ACTION.

BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT THE SOLAR NEEDS TO BE EXTRAPOLATED OUT OF WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.

AND THE DOCUMENT THAT I JUST HANDED OUT IS THE CURRENT PROJECT WITHOUT THE CHLORINE GENERATION BEING REMOVED.

REMEMBER, WE HAD THIS MEETING WITH THE CITY IN JULY.

AND SO AFTER THAT MEETING IS WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO REMOVE THE CHLORINE.

SO THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THAT TIME.

SO THERE'S PROBABLY SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT.

THOSE NUMBERS NEED TO COME OUT.

THAT'S ABOUT $200,000 THAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT.

SO LET ME REDO THE CASH FLOW FOR YOU, REDEFINE THE SCOPE, BECAUSE THAT WILL CHANGE.

AND FRANKLY, THE SCOPE THAT WE SHARE WITH YOU IS EXACTLY WHAT GETS INSERTED INTO THE CONTRACT.

THAT IS OUR SCHEDULE A OF OUR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.

AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU.

SO THAT WOULD BE INSERTED INTO THE CONTRACT.

WE SENT THE CONTRACTS ALREADY TO HAVE THEM VETTED.

IT TAKES SOME TIME TO GET THAT DONE.

AND SO THOSE ARE ALREADY THERE.

BUT REALLY IT'S JUST ME WORKING ON SCHEDULE A AND GETTING THAT READY FOR YOU.

SO IT'S AN UPDATE TO THE NUMBERS AND TO UPDATE THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR YOU AND THEN WE'LL BRING BACK AND WE CAN EITHER PRESENT OR WE CAN GIVE THIS TO CHRIS TO PRESENT.

WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO COME AND SEE COUNCIL, OF COURSE, BUT TO ME THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD IS AN ACTION ITEM.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

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I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE OKAY.

SO THAT'S THE DIRECTIVE THAT'S WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS GUIDANCE FROM YOU ON WHERE TO GO, BECAUSE I CANNOT INSTRUCT MY TEAM UNTIL I KNOW THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY AND WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU. AND I TOLD YOU BACK IN OCTOBER WHEN WE FIRST SELECTED, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE FEEL ARE BEST FOR YOU AND HOW TO BEST STRETCH YOUR DOLLAR. AND SO THE PROJECT THAT THE CITY TEAM WAS LEADING TOWARDS MAKES EVERY SENSE.

IT JUST MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE.

IT ALL OF IT MAKES SENSE.

BUT IF IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT TIMING, THEN THAT'S THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS THE THIRD PROJECT, WHICH AGAIN TAKES CARE OF NEEDS IN YOUR BUILDINGS.

AND SO WE'LL REDO THE SCOPE AND WE'LL REDO THE NUMBERS AND WE CAN HAVE THAT BACK VERY QUICKLY.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE US COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS, WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK I'LL NEED BRIAN HERE FOR THAT.

BUT BRIAN FLIES IN FROM CALIFORNIA, SO TO COME VISIT WITH US.

YEAH. SO IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION, THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'LL TAKE.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO THAT.

IF IT HAS TO BE AN ACTION ITEM TO DO THAT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ACTION ITEM.

NO. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ITEM 12 DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 20231010-012.

[12. Discussion and possible action on Resolution No. 20231010-012 nominating candidate(s) for a position on the Board of Directors of the Brazoria County Appraisal District. ]

NOMINATING A CANDIDATE FOR THE POSITION OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE BRAZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

WHO WANTS TO TALK FIRST ON THIS? SO SUSAN SPOOR SAID SHE WAS INTERESTED IN SERVING AGAIN.

AND THEN WE HAD GARY DICKEY, WHO WAS ALSO INTERESTED.

THOSE WERE THE ONLY ONES RESPONDED.

OKAY.

COUNCIL. WE TRADITIONALLY HAD.

I MEAN, ONE.

ONE? YOU CAN HAVE UP TO FIVE NOMINEES, BUT THEN IT SPLITS THE VOTE.

THE VOTE THE CITY GETS, WE GET 42 VOTES.

SO JUST, FOR INSTANCE, THAT MEANS EACH PERSON WOULD GET 21 [INAUDIBLE] TOO.

YES. I BELIEVE AND DON'T HOLD ME TO IT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S MS. SPOOR HAS BEEN SERVING WE PUT ALL OF OUR VOTES FOR HER, AND SHE'S ALSO BEEN VOTED FOR BY OTHER TAXING ENTITIES AS WELL.

AND THAT'S WHAT KEEPS HER TOTAL TO WHERE SHE GETS ELECTED.