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WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.[1. City Staff will conduct a Workshop/Townhall, discussion, and receive community input on a request for approval of an ordinance amending the City of Angleton Code of Ordinances, Zoning Chapter 28, and Chapter 23- Land Development Code, including Sections 28-41 through Sections 28-62 – Residential and Commercial Zoning Districts, Section 23-115–Standard language for special plat elements, Subsection C. Fire lanes and fire easements, Street pavement width requirement modifications. ARTICLE II. – Subdivision and Development Design, Section 23-12, Table 23-12.1, Street Dimension Standards, and Streets and Driveways, Section 129, and Section 28-101 Off-street and loading requirements (11).J. Fire Lanes, providing for clarity on area regulations, setback requirements and other standards, as set out and applicable in each Zoning district.]
GOOD EVENING.UH, I'M OTIS SPRITZ WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE WILL NOW BEGIN A WORK SESSION.
OF COURSE, THIS IS A PLANNING AND ZONING WORKSHOP TO CONSIDER SOME SETBACK REGULATIONS AND VARIOUS CHANGES TO OUR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AS IT RELATES TO, UM, BUILDING SETBACKS LOT, UM, CONFIGURATIONS.
ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE STREET RIGHT OF WAY CHALLENGES AND SOME EDITS TO THE CODE AS IT RELATES TO SAFETY ISSUES, UM, IN AND OUT OF OUR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS IN TERMS OF STREET PAVEMENT AND RIGHT OF WAYS.
UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO LISTEN AND WORK WITH STAFF TO WORK THROUGH ISSUES THAT WE SEE FROM OUR SIDE OF THE TABLE AS WE LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, A CONVERSATION HAS BEEN INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, AS I STATED EARLIER, TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE SAFETY CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AS WE ARE GROWING CITY, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BEING EITHER PROPOSED UNDER CONSTRUCTION, ARE ON THE, UM, CONSIDERATION OF PLAID APPROVALS.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO PAUSE AND, AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, UM, FROM A PERSPECTIVE AND GAIN INPUT FROM OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONALS.
SO THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT, UH, FOR YOUR COMMENTS TO STAFF VIA EMAIL, VIA SOCIAL MEDIA, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, ONE NOVEMBER 2ND BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UM, OPEN COMMENTS.
AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER SOME OF WHAT WE'LL DISCUSS TODAY, AND THEY WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
STAFF WILL COLLECT ALL OF THE COMMENTS FROM YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS IS FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE'RE HOPING THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL INITIALLY SEE THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME ON NOVEMBER 14TH AT 6:00 PM IN WHICH ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE AFFORDED TO YOU ALL TO GIVE COMMENTS.
SO, UM, PLEASE PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SORT OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE AREAS OF CONCERNS THAT WOULD BE ON THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED.
AND PLEASE LOOK OUT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA, WHICH WILL BE POSTED BY MONDAY AT 12 O'CLOCK.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THESE ATTACHMENTS AS WELL, AND THEN, UM, BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS.
UM, ALSO ON STAFF, WE HAVE CANDACE, KYLE, AND GRACE.
WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE, UM, SEAT ADMINISTRATION IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.
SO YOU MAY HEAR FROM SOME OF THEM WHO ARE ALSO PROPERTY OWNERS IN, IN SOME INSTANCES.
SO, UM, PLEASE BY ALL MEANS, UM, GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
UM, BASICALLY THE, THE CAPTION THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN DEALS WITH OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE VARIOUS SECTIONS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT, CHAPTERS 23 AND 28.
YOU CAN, UM, KEEP ROLLING AND KIND OF PAUSE.
UM, WELL, WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
THESE ARE JUST UNIDENTIFIED, UM, ANONYMOUS LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY.
SO WE DON'T, THIS IS JUST JOHN DOE'S SUBDIVISION.
UM, SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING, AS YOU SEE ON THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, BECAUSE ANGLETON HAS WITHIN ITS ZONING RESOLUTIONS, SOME SETBACK REGULATIONS LIKE THE FIRST PHOTO PHOTOGRAPH THERE SHOWS THE HOUSE SETBACK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY AND FROM THE STREET PAVEMENT IN WHICH YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO REALLY PARK ONE VEHICLE, UM, BEYOND THE SIDEWALK.
AS YOU SEE, THE SECOND VEHICLE DOES ENCROACH INTO THE SIDEWALK AREA.
IT DOES NOT PROVOKE PRO PROMOTE RESIDENTIAL SAFETY AND INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE STROLLERS AND TRYING TO TRAVERSE THROUGH SOME OF THE SUBDIVISIONS.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE NEWER SUBDIVISIONS.
SO, UM, IMAGINE SOME OF THE OLDER SUBDIVISIONS AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS.
UM, I THINK SIDEWALKS WILL BECOME MORE OF A NORM AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AS WE, UM, WORK THROUGH GETTING GRANTS THROUGH TEXT OUT ON SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS AND, UH, MAYBE SOME OTHER FEDERAL GRANTS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT TO IMPROVE WALKABILITY IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE FOR CHILDREN INSTITUTIONAL TYPE USES, UM, SOME OF OUR PUBLIC AND RECREATIONAL USES, WE WANNA PROMOTE THAT CONNECTIVITY AS YOU SEE IN THE SECOND PHOTOGRAPH THERE.
UM, WHEN YOU HAVE TWO VEHICLES AND AS I WAS DRIVING THROUGH, UM, YOU HAVE TO REALLY, OF COURSE, SLOW DOWN AND, AND OF COURSE TRAVEL WITH CARE.
BUT MY THING IS I DON'T WANT TO HIT SOMEONE'S MURAL.
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WE WANT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE DEVELOPER FROM A PERSPECTIVE, HEY, I KNOW THIS MIGHT ADD SOME COST TO THE SUBDIVISION OR TO THE HOMES, BUT TRY TO WORK WITH US TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS.IN THIS INSTANCE, IMAGINE IF WE WERE TO IMPOSE A REQUIREMENT THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS, UM, WHERE YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO PARK ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.
WE JUST DON'T ENFORCE THAT PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE THE COUNCIL.
IF SOME OF YOU, UM, WERE TO GIVE INPUT TO TRY TO PUSH THAT, THEN WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO, NUMBER ONE, UM, ENFORCE THAT REGULATION.
THAT WOULD BE THE CHALLENGE IS TRYING TO RETROFIT IT INTO EXISTING SITUATIONS WHERE FOLKS ARE USED, USED TO PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
BUT THE CITY DOES HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT, WE JUST HAVEN'T ACTIVELY ENFORCED IT.
SO, UM, THAT FIRST ISSUE THERE IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE FROM A FIRE SAFETY STANDPOINT.
UM, IMAGINE GARBAGE TRUCKS AND WHAT HAVE YOU TRYING TO TRAVERSE AND TRYING TO DODGE THE CARS.
SO THIS IS NORMAL IN EVERY COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
THE, UM, PHOTOGRAPH BELOW SORT OF SHOWS THE CUL-DE-SAC ISSUE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING.
UM, AND THIS DOES NOT SHOW INSTANCES WHERE FOLKS ACTUALLY PARK WITHIN THAT CIRCLE.
UM, REALLY THAT'S MEANT FOR LARGER VEHICLES TO BE ABLE TO BASICALLY TURN AROUND.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCES WHERE THE POSSIBILITY OF MAKING THE CUL-DE-SACS A FIRE LANE, WHICH WOULD NOT PERMIT PARKING WITHIN THE CIRCLE IN THIS INSTANCE.
UM, EVEN THE CAR RIGHT AT THE CIRCLE, UM, COULD CAUSE SOME CHALLENGES IF SOMEONE WERE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE, THE ROAD THERE.
AND AS YOU SEE THE SETBACK ISSUE THAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UM, WHERE TWO CARS ARE PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY, THEY'RE ACTUALLY PARKED INTO THE CUL-DE-SAC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS, USE SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS WHERE, UM, AS WE'RE DESIGNING AND LAYING OUT THE SUBDIVISIONS, CREATING REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COME WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
UM, YOU CAN ROLL DOWN AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIND, IF YOU WANT TO TURN TO THE EXCEL FILE.
AND I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DRAG THIS OVER THERE.
FORTUNATELY
YEAH, JUST DRAG IT OVER THERE AND LET IT GO.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR TABLE, UM, BASICALLY SUMMARIZES THE VARIOUS DISTRICTS AND THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN CONVERSING WITH COUNCIL ABOUT POSSIBILITIES OF LOOKING AT EACH DISTRICT REQUIREMENT AND INCREASING THAT FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM THE NORM 20 FEET TO POSSIBLY EITHER 30 OR 35 FEET.
SOME OF THE NUMBERS HERE YOU MIGHT THINK ARE A BIT EXTREME, BUT WE NEED YOUR FEEDBACK.
UM, AND THEN NOT ONLY, AS I STATED, TRY TO GIVE SOME PROFESSIONAL FEEDBACK AS TO WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THIS IS A BIT EXTREME OR MAY NOT WORK IN YOUR SITUATION.
AND WE DO KNOW THAT, UH, WITH THE INCREASED FRONT YARD THAT WOULD CAUSE CHALLENGES ON THE, UM, REAR YARD SETBACK.
BUT WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT PRODUCTS THAT YOU'VE BEEN PROMOTING, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THIS CAN OR CANNOT WORK IN SITUATIONS OF SUBDIVISIONS THAT YOU ACTUALLY DESIGN OR HOMES THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DESIGNING AS A PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS MOST OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS WOULD BE FALL INTO THE CLASSIFICATION OF 6.3 SF 6.3, OR, UM, THE 7.2.
THOSE ARE OUR STANDARD SUBDIVISIONS.
AND AS YOU SEE HERE IN THE COUNCIL PROPOSAL, UM, IT'S MOVING AWAY FROM YOUR FIVE FOOT SETBACK TO 10 FEET ON BOTH SIDES FOR THE SIDE YARD.
UM, AND THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BASICALLY MAXIMIZING DENSITY, PUTTING IN SO MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT ONCE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREET, THE HOMES ARE SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND, UM, THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE FROM A VISUAL STANDPOINT.
UM, SO CONSOLE IS LOOKING AT POSSIBLY INCREASING THOSE SETBACKS FROM THE FIVE FEET MARK TO 10 FEET, UM, IN SOME INSTANCES.
AND THEN IN MULTIFAMILY YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASE TO 15 FEET IN SOME OF THOSE SIDE YARDS.
UM, AND THEN ON YOUR LARGER SCALE LOTS, THE SETBACK, UM, ON AN ESTATE LOT, WHICH WOULD BE THE SSF 10, SSF 20, WHERE YOU HAVE EITHER 10,000 SQUARE
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FOOT LOTS OR 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, WHICH ARE A LITTLE LARGER, YOU HAVE A LOT MORE PLAY IN TERMS OF YOUR FRONT YARD AND INSIDE YARD SETBACKS.SO WE DON'T FORESEE ANY MAJOR PROBLEMS THERE.
'CAUSE IN MOST CITIES YOU WOULD SEE THOSE INCREASED SETBACKS.
UM, I'M GONNA JUST STOP JUST TO SEE IF I HAVE ANY INITIAL COMMENTS.
I KNOW I'VE TALKED A LOT, UM, BUT OKAY, GO AHEAD AND, AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A MIC.
I, I JUST THINK IN THE TEAMS CALL, THEY CAN'T BE LET IN.
SO ON THE INVITE SHOULD BE AN UPDATED, UM, ZOOM CALL.
SO IF YOU WOULD TELL THEM TO LOOK FOR THE ZOOM OKAY.
AND THEN ALSO THOSE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
YOU CAN GO TO THE FACEBOOK PAGE OF THE CITY AND YOU CAN ALSO WATCH THE STREAM THERE.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE ALTERNATIVE THAT YOU DO HAVE THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED LIVE ON FACEBOOK ON THE CITY OF ANGLETON'S FACEBOOK PAGE.
UM, AT ANY RATE, SHOOT ME AN EMAIL O SPRIGS AT ANGLETON DOT TX ANGLETON TX US.
THAT'S OLD SPRIGGS AT ANGLETON TX US.
AND I'LL SEE THAT EMAIL POP UP WITH YOUR COMMENT AS WELL.
OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE MONITORING THE ZOOM CALL.
SO IN SOME OF THESE NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU HAVE A VERY SMALL BACKYARD, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHEN, IF YOU IMPOSE THESE LIMITATIONS, UM, WOULD IT BE RIGHT AT THE FENCE? I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT WORK? RIGHT, SO THE IDEA WOULD BE TO DEFINITELY TRY TO HAVE A, A REAR YARD WITH A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET IN MOST CASES.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE, THE WEIGHT, SOME OF THE SUBDIVISIONS HAVE BEEN PROPOSED AND LAID OUT.
CURRENTLY THEY ONLY ARE 100 FOOT LOTS.
THE IDEAL SINGLE FAMILY LOT IS TYPICALLY LIKE 120 FEET.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL GET FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE ENGINEERS OR THE, UM, DEVELOPERS WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY'RE PUSHING.
THEY KNOW EXACTLY, THEY'VE DONE THE MARKETING STUDIES TO SEE WHAT THEIR CLIENTS REALLY WANT.
UM, MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING FOR THE SMALLER YARD.
UM, BUT HOWEVER, I THINK THE CITY STILL HAS TO LOOK AT THOSE SAFETY ISSUES, UM, AND PRIORITIZE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE FRONT YARD.
WE HAVE INSTANCES WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOME SUBDIVISIONS, THEY WANTED THE UTILITIES OUT IN THE FRONT YARD AND, AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT, UM, WE WANT TO WORK TOWARDS MORE OF A, AN OPEN SPACE IDEA OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT.
UM, AND AS I STATED, THE SAFE SAFETY ISSUES WITH THE DRIVEWAY, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THE PRIORITY.
NOW, IF THE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND SAY, HEY, 35 FEET IS A BIT EXTREME, WON'T YOU TRY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE 30 FOOT OPTION, AND I THINK THAT'S LOGICAL.
YOU KNOW, IT MAY MAKE GOOD SENSE THAT 35 MIGHT BE EXTREME BECAUSE THAT WOULD PUSH THAT HOUSE FURTHER BACK.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO STILL TRY TO MAINTAIN 20 FEET IN THE REAR AT LEAST.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ALONG THAT? THEY'LL GIVE YOU A MIC, I'M SORRY.
WHICH DO YOU PREFER? I'M, I'M SORRY.
DO YOU PREFER EVERYONE? YOU'RE FINE THERE.
I'M WITH MEADOW PLANNING DESIGN.
THE FIRST, ARE THESE APPLICABLE ONLY IN THE CITY LIMITS? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW CORRECT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PER ZONE.
SO IT WOULDN'T AFFECT ANYTHING IN THE ETJ.
THIS WOULD BE FOR THE LOTS THAT ARE UNDER, UM, EITHER PLANNING COMMISSION OR ZONING COMMISSION REVIEW.
THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE FOLKS ARE DOING DEVELOPMENTS IN THE ETJ.
WE WOULD STILL MAKE THEM MINDFUL OF THE CITY REGULATIONS AND SOMETIMES THERE'S GIVE AND TAKE NEGOTIATIONS THAT OCCUR ON THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, BUT HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY OF ZONING WITHIN THE ETJ FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, UNLESS IT'S BY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OF SOME SORT.
BUT THERE'D BE NO CHANGE IN THE MINIMUM SETBACKS IN THE, WE CAN'T CHANGE THE REQUIREMENTS OUT IN THE COUNTY.
WOULD THERE BE LIKE A GRANDFATHERING OF ANY SENSE? SO IF A PROJECT HAD CAME IN WITH SOMETHING LIKE A GP OR HAD SUBMITTED PLATS MM-HMM.
UM, BUT THIS DEFINITELY WOULD APPLY FOR NEWER SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL, UM, IN WHICH WE'RE STILL GETTING, I MEAN THE CITY IS GROWING.
UM, THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA CONCENTRATE ON IN INSTANCES WHERE YOU HAVE THE RETROFITS OR, UM, CURRENT STANDARDS, LIKE SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS IF COUNCIL WERE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE OF ONE, PARKING, PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE THINGS WE CAN
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IMPOSE, UM, AND ENFORCE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL ACTION ALSO.
HOPEFULLY I ANSWERED BOTH OF THE QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN COME BACK WITH A FOLLOW UP.
UM, WE'RE GONNA PAUSE FOR A SECOND JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO.
IN THE MEANTIME, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS, THOSE IN THE ROOM ARE ABLE TO EAT LUNCH.
THOSE ON VIRTUAL, UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON A GOOD LUNCH.
SO, SO FAR THERE ARE NO COMMENTS FROM, UM, THE ZONE MEETING.
WE DO HAVE SOME ATTENDANCE AND WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL TUNING IN.
AS I STATED, UM, YOU CAN COMMENT IN BY EMAIL, THIS WILL BE RECORDED AND ALSO ASSESSABLE ON FACEBOOK AS WELL AS ON THE CITY'S WEBPAGE.
AND YOU CAN, UM, WATCH THIS VIDEO LATER AND GIVE, UM, INPUT TO SOME OF THE PLANNING STAFF AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE CONSIDER SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS.
SO GETTING BACK TO THE, UM, SETBACK TABLE, AND WE DID ATTACH IT TO THE INVITE, SO HOPEFULLY MOST OF YOU'RE ABLE, UM, TO REVIEW IT.
AND WE DEFINITELY NEED YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE SITUATIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE SMALLER LOTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, UM, SSF FIVE, WHICH ARE JUST 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, UM, WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ON THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.
IT'S CONSOLE'S VOICE TO CONSIDER THE 10 FEET ON MOST OF THESE LOTS, ESPECIALLY THE SMALLER ONES.
BUT WE DO REALIZE THAT ONCE YOU INCREASE THE SETBACKS, AS MARTHA HAS NOTED, THAT LENDS FOR A STRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO GO MORE VERTICAL.
IT LENDS FOR SITUATIONS WHERE YOUR SETBACKS INCREASE ON ONE SIDE AND IT'S PUSHING AND FORCING THE HOUSE TO CREATE CHALLENGES WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH YARD IN THE REAR.
SO DEFINITELY GIVE YOUR, GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE SMALLER LOTS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE, UM, CAPTURE THOSE NOTES.
BUT, UM, PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE, UM, FORMER ZERO OUT SITUATIONS.
WE HAVE PATIO HOMES, UM, WE DO HAVE DUPLEX SITUATIONS AND IF YOU NOTE THERE, UM, THE 35 PROPOSED SETBACK IS ON THOSE.
SO WE NEED YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHETHER OR NOT THE 35 WOULD BE TOO EXTREME, COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS.
BUT PLEASE BACK THOSE UP WITH, HEY, WE LOOKED AT THESE DESIGNS AND, AND IF YOU WANNA SEND ME GRAPHICS TO SHOW EXAMPLES OF OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU'VE DONE WORK OR SEEN IT HAPPENING, THAT SORT OF LIKE HELPS US TO CREATE THE NARRATIVE AS WE GO BACK TO PUBLIC HEARING AND BEFORE THESE THINGS ARE ADOPTED.
UM, ALSO ADDED TO THIS, AND IF YOU WOULD JUST ROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THE TABLE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL IN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
UM, AS YOU SEE THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AT THE BOTTOM, UM, SOME OF THOSE SETBACKS ON LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL WERE AT THAT SAME 20 FOOT THRESHOLD.
AND THAT'S JUST, JUST NOT COMMON THAT YOU WOULD FIND THOSE SETBACKS.
SO WE SORT OF INCREASE THOSE UNLESS YOU'RE DOING SOME SPECIAL DISTRICT, LIKE THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, UM, WHERE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO FACE THE BUILDING RIGHT AT THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN PROVIDE THE PARKING IN THE REAR.
ALSO IN THE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS, THE PARKING LOT USUALLY DICTATES A LOT OF THIS FRONT YARD ACTIVITY AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE SAFETY, UM, CHALLENGES.
SO PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO SOME OF THOSE PROPOSED SETBACKS IN BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS.
AND THEN ONCE YOU DO MULTIFAMILY, OF COURSE THERE ARE CERTAIN HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS THAT DICTATE, UM, INCREASED SETBACKS.
UM, SO THERE ARE SOME SECTIONS IN THE CODE THAT ALLOWS YOU THAT FLEXIBILITY.
WE'RE NOT BASICALLY TRYING TO ZONE OUT A PARTICULAR SIZE LOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S DIVERSITY IN THE LOT SIZES THAT'S PROVIDED IN THE CODE.
UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MORE, UM, FLEXIBLE DISTRICTS SUCH AS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
WE DO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WHERE A DEVELOPER COULD COME IN WITH THE PRODUCT THAT'S UNIQUE THAT DOESN'T FIT THIS, THIS PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING AT A MIX OF, UM, LOTS IN TERMS OF LARGE SCALE LOTS AND SMALL SCALE LOTS.
SO WE SOMETIMES SEE PLANNED DISTRICTS THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU, UM, WITH SOME RELAXED SETBACKS BECAUSE OF SOME UNIQUE
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CIRCUMSTANCE.SO, UM, JUST KIND OF TALK WITH PLANNING STAFF AND WE CAN KIND OF LEAD YOU DOWN THE RIGHT PATH TO DEAL WITH, UM, THE PLAN DISTRICT PROPOSAL.
THAT WAY IT'S LOOKED AT ON THE CASE BY CASE BASIS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A UNIQUE PRODUCT, THEN PLAN DISTRICT APPROACHES ARE, ARE MORE APPROPRIATE.
ANY COMMENTS SO FAR? I PROMISE I'M JUST LEARNING JUST LIKE Y'ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THESE PRE QUESTIONS ARE COMING TO MY MIND.
WHAT ABOUT ANCILLARY STRUCTURES IN THE BACKYARD? AND WOULD YOU BE PRECLUDED FROM THAT IF YOU, UM, HAD SUCH A MAXIMUM SETBACK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, FOR STORAGE SHEDS AND THINGS OF THAT POOL HOUSES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? MM-HMM.
SO THE IDEA IS NOT TO OVER OVER DENSIFY ANY SIZE LOTS.
SO YOU WANNA LOOK AT LOT COVERAGE AS YOU LAND OUT THE LOTS.
SO MOST OF YOUR ESTATE HOUSES OR LARGER SCALE LOTS WOULD, YOU KNOW, ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE POOL HOUSES AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT GO BEYOND THE NORM.
MEANING THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE A LARGE RV THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO STORE IN THE BUILDING OR THEY MAY HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, A UM, POOL HOUSE AND A SWIMMING POOL.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CALL FOR A LARGER LOT THAN A
IN CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE THAT, IT'S KIND OF HARDER TO PUT A LARGER ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ARE ALSO LIMITED BY, UM, THE CODE REQUIREMENT THAT IT HAS TO BE SMALLER THAN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE MAIN HOUSE.
UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, TOOL USED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DON'T DENSIFY THE LOT.
BUT WE DEFINITELY WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR STORAGE SHEDS TO BE ALLOWED IN THE REAR YARD.
USUALLY THOSE ARE ALLOWED IN ANY CORNER OF THE REAR YARD AT A SETBACK OF FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, SO THOSE WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME HOMEOWNER RULES THAT HOME, I'M SORRY, THE HOA RULES THAT MIGHT SUPERSEDE WHAT WE DO, UM, BY THE RESTRICTION OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT THE CITY WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR THE, UM, TYPICAL STORAGE BARN SITUATION.
AND YOU MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, UM, THAT THERE WAS ALREADY SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS ABOUT PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET THAT IS NOT BEING ENFORCED AND WE'RE IS DIFFICULT YES.
OR COULD PROVE TO BE DIFFICULT.
IN THE SAME VEIN, DO WE HAVE THAT SAME ROLE FOR NOT BLOCKING A SIDEWALK? UM, IN WITH THESE DRIVEWAYS WHEN YOU'RE PULLING INTO THE DRIVEWAY AND YOU'VE GOT MORE THAN ONE VEHICLE AND THEY'RE NOT LONG ENOUGH, WE DON'T HAVE A REGULATION AGAINST IT.
WE ALL WILL BE IN TROUBLE IF THAT WERE WERE THE CASE BECAUSE, UM, IT'S A NORMAL, I THINK, THING THAT'S HAPPENING IN MOST COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE OVERLAPPING OF THE CARS OVER THE SIDEWALK.
AND IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE WITH BABY STROLLERS, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN FOLKS ARE JETTING DOWN THE, THE STREET RIGHT AWAY, YOU KNOW, WITH NO REGARD TO THE PEDESTRIAN.
SO IF YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE, UM, HANDICAPPED OR ELDERLY PEOPLE HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN ISSUE I THINK THAT COUNCIL WOULD PROBABLY PUSH FORTH IS WE CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, ARBITRARILY CREATE THESE, UM, REGULATIONS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE CRITERIA THAT WE HOLD TO, TO MAKE THE CHANGE.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE.
UM, BECAUSE OF QUALITY OF LIFE, QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES, AND THEN DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND THEN PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE IN TERMS OF SAFETY OF THEIR PEDESTRIANS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT, SO JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE IS NOTHING WE HAVE DO NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR NOT BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
UM, NOW, UM, PARKS AND RECREATION, YOU KNOW, THEY PROMOTE WALKABILITY AND TRAIL SYSTEMS, UM, AND THEN A LOT OF THOSE PROBABLY HAVE PROTECTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN EASEMENTS THAT HAVE CERTAIN CONNOTATIONS BEHIND IT.
SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING IN OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENTS WHERE WE CAN, UM, LOOK AT IT TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN ENFORCE, UM, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING TO EXTREME ON OUR OTHER REGULATIONS.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK CLOSER AT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, JEFF, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING FROM A PUBLIC WORK STANDPOINT WHERE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ENFORCE PEOPLE BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK? I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE COMPLAINT BASED THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY ON THE CURRENT STAND SITUATIONS DEAL WITH OBSTRUCTIONS ON OUR RIGHT OF WAYS, UM, AND DEAL WITH IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
IF WE, WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING TODAY, BUT THE CARS OVERLAPPING, I THINK AS I STATED, IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE, THAT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO OCCUR OVER TIME, BUT IT'S NOTHING NEW TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD.
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CAITLYN, DO YOU HAVE ANY CHALLENGES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT YOU GUYS LAY OUT IN DESIGN? UM, DEALING WITH THE SIDEWALK OBSTRUCTION? UM, I DON'T, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S AS GREAT A LOT OF THE TIME PEOPLE WILL PARK IN GARAGES, UM, AND DIFFERENT COUNTIES KIND OF HAVE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AS HOW MUCH PARKING IS PERMITTED OR, UM, SETBACKS.BUT 25 FOOT FRONT SETBACKS IS USUALLY PRETTY TYPICAL, UM, FOR WHAT WE SEE IN KIND OF THE GREATER HOUSTON AREA.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT MOST CITIES AND KIND OF COUNTIES UM, ENFORCE.
SO WE GOT A GOOD QUESTION ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR ZOOM.
UM, AND YOU WANNA READ IT WHEN THESE SETBACKS, ESPECIALLY FRONT YARD APPLIED TO ALLEY LOADED LOTS.
WOULD THE SETBACKS, ESPECIALLY FRONT YARD APPLY TO ALLEY LOADED? LOTS? SO THE SETBACKS THAT I DESCRIBED AND THE CHANGES THAT YOU SEE ON THE TABLE, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL IS BASICALLY ASKING THE QUESTION, WOULD THIS APPLY TO FRONT LOADED LOTS? AND THEN I'LL ADD TO THE QUESTION, WOULD IT APPLY TO CORNER SITUATIONS WITH CORN LOT SITUATIONS? AND I'LL ANSWER THAT ONE FIRST BEFORE I FORGET BECAUSE I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP ALSO, THAT THIS TABLE DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE, UM, FRONT YARD, UM, THAT DEALS WITH, WITH CORN LOT SITUATIONS AS WELL.
UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL GET BACK TO.
BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CARRY THAT SAME NARRATIVE IN CIR IN CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THE DRIVEWAY MAY BE ON THAT SIDE STREET.
SO YOU'RE STILL DEALING WITH THAT SAFETY QUESTIONS ABOUT OVERLAPPING THE SIDEWALK AND PUSHING MORE CARS TO BE PARKED ON THE ROADSIDE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, A SLIGHT INCREASE TO THAT CIRCUMSTANCE ON THE ALLEYWAY CIRCUMSTANCE.
UM, WE WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY NOW DOWNTOWN AREAS WHERE PARKING IS FORCED TO THE REAR ARE ON AN ALLEYWAY.
UM, BUT HOWEVER, IT WOULDN'T BE AS EXTREME, UM, AS A A 30 OR 35 FOOT SETBACK.
WE WOULD LEAVE, LEAVE IT TO THE 15 OR SO REQUIREMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, BECAUSE SIDEWALKS ARE NOT TYPICALLY ON THE ALLEYWAY.
UM, BUT WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE FREE PASSAGE IS ALLOWED ON THOSE ALLEYWAYS FROM A GARBAGE TRUCK OR, UM, FIRE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, BUT I THINK THE, THE IDEA IS TO KEEP THAT ALLOWANCE.
UM, FOR THOSE CORNER LOTS THAT YOU'RE, UM, SUGGESTING, THE 30 FOOT SIDE SETBACK FOR, UM, ANY KIND OF GARAGE ACCESSES, WOULD IT BE SOMETHING YOU CONSIDER TO HAVE A SEPARATE GARAGE BUILDING LINE? SO CITY OF HOUSTON, YOU WOULD HAVE TWO BUILDING LINES ON, ON A CORNER LOT, YOU WOULD HAVE A 15 FOOT FOR YOUR STRUCTURE, BUT IF YOU'RE PROPOSING HAVING A GARAGE ON THAT, YOU HAVE TO INCREASE IT TO A 20 FOOT SETBACK.
SO YOU, YOU HAVE TWO SETBACKS AND THAT GREATER SETBACK WOULD ONLY KICK IN IF YOU'RE PROPOSING ACCESS FROM THAT CORNER.
WE WOULD DEFINITELY, UM, CONSIDER THAT IN, IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN THEY HAD SIDEWALKS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WERE STILL THE UM, UH, KAITLYN IS THERE STILL THE, THE UM, COMPROMISE OF SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ON THAT SIDE STREET? THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION.
DO YOU KNOW? UM, I THINK SIDEWALKS CAN STILL BE IN THAT SIDE STREET.
AND THEN ARE YOU REFERRING TO A DETACHED GARAGE IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE OR AN ATTACHED? ATTACHED ATTACHED? IT WOULD BE ATTACHED I BELIEVE.
THE IDEA IS NOT TO INCREASE IT TO 35 BE RELAXED, BUT IT MAY BE SOME SLIGHT INCREASE TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
UM, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S 15 FEET.
RIGHT KYLE, BUT GOOD QUESTIONS.
UM, SO SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS, UM, ON THE TABLE AS I STATED, THEY, THEY BOTH DEALT WITH UM, THAT REAR INSIDE YARD CIRCUMSTANCE AND THEN WE PUT THE CAVEAT OR ASTERISK IN THERE IN SITUATIONS ON THE MULTI-FAMILY WHERE THERE'S AN INCREASE SETBACK DUE TO UM, THE EITHER THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING OR THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
UM, SO WE WILL STILL MAINTAIN THAT AND THEN ON A LOT OF THE UM, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, THEY'RE GUIDED BY THE THOROUGH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN ARRANGEMENTS.
SO UM, THOSE PROTECTIONS WILL STILL BE THERE.
UM, FROM A REGULATION STANDPOINT.
CAN YOU ROLL DOWN ON THE OTHER DOCUMENT SO IF THE DASH ON THE, THE TABLE,
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UM, SO THE OTHER DOCUMENT ATTACHES WHAT GRACE HAS HERE.UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH EACH SECTION AND AS I KINDA SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT
UM, WHAT WE ARE DOING WE'RE DOING HERE IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE ON THE TABLE, UM, FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT CASE IN PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL BE UM, DISPLAYING A MARKUP VERY SIMILAR TO THIS WITH COMMENTS AND WE WILL ADD SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS INTO THIS, UM, JUSTIFICATION FOR THESE CHANGES AND DEFINITELY SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I THINK IS GOOD.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE UM, CAPTURE THAT ON THE MARKUP AND UM, KEEP ROLLING DOWN.
THE OTHER ITEM THAT I TALKED ABOUT WAS THE FIRE LANE ACCESS, UM, ON THE CUL-DE-SACS.
WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT.
THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DONE THAT ALREADY.
UH, WE WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRE, UM, FIRE CHIEF AND FIRE MARSHAL AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
'CAUSE AS I STATED, THOSE ITEMS WILL TAKE A LITTLE EXTRA, UM, EITHER POSTING OF SIGNS, UM, ACTION BY COUNSEL IN TERMS OF WHO ENFORCES WHAT WE STILL WOULD HAVE TO WORK OUT, UM, THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
WE'RE ALMOST HALFWAY THROUGH ACTUALLY, SO WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD AND KEEP GOING DOWN.
UH, AND THEN WITH A LOT OF THE TEXT AMENDMENTS, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS FLOW THROUGH THE, BOTH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS WELL AS THE ZONING CODE CHAPTER 23, UM, ON THE VARIOUS DISTRICTS.
AND ONCE YOU CHANGE ONE DISTRICT, IT AFFECTS ANOTHER AND THEN ANOTHER AND THEN ANOTHER.
UM, SO WE'LL BE COORDINATING THAT WITH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE UM, COORDINATED ALL OF THE SECTIONS.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE DOCUMENT, BY ALL MEANS SEND ME AN EMAIL AND THEN I WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND, UM, SEND THE ATTACHMENTS TO YOU.
AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THESE ATTACHMENTS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER THE SECOND, WHICH WILL BE ON THE CITY SECRETARY'S, UM, WEBSITE AND ALL OF THE ATTACHMENTS WILL BE THERE.
YEAH, IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM, I SEE WHERE YOU SEE RED, JUST SLOW DOWN, KEEP GOING, WHAT'S THERE? OKAY.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE LANGUAGE FOR, UM, FOR THE FIRE ACCESS INTO THE CUL-DE-SACS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T COMPROMISE.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY PARK PERPENDICULAR TO THE CIRCLE AND THEY'RE BASICALLY CREATING A PARKING LOT SITUATION.
AND THAT WAY IF SOMEONE HAD A FIRE OR SOMETHING DURING THE WEEKEND OR DURING THE EVENING, THEN THE FIRE TRUCKS WOULD HAVE ISSUES, UM, GETTING THROUGH.
AND WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE? THAT'S JUST SOME OTHER LANGUAGE SUPPORTING, UM, THE FIRE LANE WITHIN THE CUL-DE-SAC.
SO, UM, THAT SORT OF GOES THROUGH I THINK ALL OF THE RE THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, OPEN COMMENTS, REMARKS, UM, SUGGESTIONS ON HOW WE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT PROCEED WITH THESE? DO YOU HAVE ANY AND WE'VE UM, RECEIVED OTHER FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF UM, PAVEMENT WIDTHS, WHICH I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED WITH YOU.
UM, THERE IS ANOTHER COLUMN ON THE TABLE, GRACE, YOU HAVE IT UP NOW IF YOU COULD.
UM, I THINK IT'S THE VERY LAST COLUMN.
SO THE VERY LAST COLUMN DEALS WITH ROADWAY WEIGHT WIDTH.
THIS IS ACTUAL STREET PAVEMENT TRAVEL DISTANCE WIDTH, UM, ON THE STREETS.
AND I SORT OF SHOWED YOU THE VISUAL AS TO THE OBJECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
UM, WITH THESE, UM, OUR CURRENT STANDARD OF THE 28 FOOT, UM, PASSAGE ON THE, THE STREETS OR THE LOCAL ROADS WITHIN THE NEWER SUBDIVISIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THAT TO 30 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 28 TO COMBAT THAT ISSUE THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU.
THE DIAGRAM SHOWING THE CARS, UM, AND THE CHALLENGES HAVING TO MANEUVER IN AND OUT.
SO CONSOLES, UM, POSITION HAS BEEN, UM,
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TO PLEASE LOOK AT THOSE WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF OUR ESTATE.I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN ISSUE THERE BECAUSE MOST FOLKS, MOST FOLKS THAT LIVE IN UM, THE ESTATE LOTS OR THE LARGER LOTS USUALLY HAVE LONG DRIVEWAYS.
SO A LOT OF THE CARS ARE NOT PUSHED INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN MOST OF US HAVE SO MANY ITEMS WITHIN OUR GARAGES AND WE DON'T UTILIZE THE GARAGE.
SO THAT LENS AND I THINK, UH, THINK ADDS TO THE PROBLEM.
UM, SO THIS WOULD FORCE US TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE, UM, UTILIZING OUR PARKING SPACE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ALREADY THERE ON THE PROPERTY.
I THINK IF WE UTILIZE IT MORE, WE WON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO PLEASE MAKE SUGGESTIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD SUPPORT US ENFORCING THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, DEALING WITH PARKING ON ONE SIDE, WHICH WILL PROPOSE A CHALLENGE IN EXISTING SITUATIONS.
'CAUSE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY, UM, BEEN LIVING A CERTAIN MANNER
AND THEN WHEN YOU AFFECT THEIR, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE AND HOW THEY'VE ACTUALLY ENJOYED THEIR PROPERTY, BEING ABLE TO PARK ON THE STREET, UM, IT WOULD BE HARD TO ENFORCE.
BUT HOWEVER, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS SO WE WILL LOOK CLOSER AT THE ROADWAY WIDTHS.
BUT AS YOU SEE ON THE TABLE AND YOU CAN UM, SEE ON THE COMMERCIAL, I HAVE A LITTLE ASTERISK THERE BECAUSE HEY, WITHIN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE PROVISIONS FOR UM, RIGHT OF WAY PROFILES IS ALREADY THERE AND MOST OF OUR COMMERCIAL USES ARE ON UM, EITHER COLLECTOR ROADS OR MAJOR THOR AFFAIRS.
ANY MORE COMMENTS? SO WE'RE AT 1238, I THINK WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL.
SO IF YOU GO TO A 30 FOOT ROAD WITH THAT, THAT DOWN ON THE UTILITY EASEMENT OR WOULD IT STILL BE THE SAME? I THINK OUR RIGHT OF WAY, UM, EASEMENTS WOULD PROBABLY, UM, STAY THE SAME.
DO YOU, DO YOU FIND CHALLENGES WHERE YOU NEED MORE OR LESS? NO, NOT AT, JUST KEEP IT THE SAME? YES.
UM, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK IS THAT STREET PAVEMENT.
I THINK THAT HAS BEEN THE CHALLENGE.
I THINK IN A LOT OF INSTANCES YOU HAVE A MIKE A QUESTION.
SO FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE AND THE FIRE WITH OUR INCREASED LOT FRONTAGES AND THE FURTHER SETBACK AND THE FIRE HOSES THAT CAN ONLY GO 150 FEET.
HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY IF THE FIRE TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, ARE PARKED IN THE STREET BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET IN THE DRIVEWAY, THEN THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL THE WHOLE DRIVEWAY TO GET TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
AND AROUND THE, THESE HOUSES ARE, YOU KNOW, 50, 60 FEET WIDE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM.
IF YOU, IF YOU ASK ME, BECAUSE SOME HOUSES ARE RANCH STYLE, BUT THEY'RE MORE NARROW.
UM, MEANING THAT THEY COULD GO ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 75 FEET DEEP CURRENTLY.
UM, SO THE HOLES REACH ARE THAT DISTANCE KYLE FROM THE STREET CURRENTLY ON A LOT OF THOSE HOUSES MAY ALREADY BE RIGHT AT 100 FEET, I WOULD THINK.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S A CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
I DON'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THE TRUCK ACTUALLY PULLS INTO THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT.
UM, BUT IF THEY HAD TO, I'M SURE THEY WOULD TO GET TO THE REAR.
UM, BUT WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND TRY TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE FIRE CHIEF BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING A SITUATION WHERE THE LOTS ARE SO DEEP WHERE THEY CAN'T GET TO THE REAR.
BUT I NEV I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT BEING A CHALLENGE.
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WE WANT TO THANK THOSE THAT LOGGED IN ON THE ZOOM INVITE AND WE APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE THAT HAD CHALLENGES.THERE ARE ALSO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PROBABLY WATCHING ON THE FACEBOOK LIVE, UM, STREAM THANKS TO COMMUNICATIONS FOR HELPING AND ASSISTING US WITH THAT AND, UM, RECOGNIZING COUNCILWOMAN.
DANIEL, THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING.
AND, AND WE'LL, WE STILL HAVE TIME.
AS I STATED, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
EVEN IF WE, UM, MAKE THE CHANGES TO THE RULES, UM, THERE'LL BE A, YOU KNOW, A JOURNALIZATION PERIOD WHERE WE'LL ALLOW FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT OUR OBJECTIVE IS.
AND CAITLYN, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT YOU WANT TO LEND TO US? NO, NOT, NOT RIGHT NOW.
I'M SORRY FOR PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT OR ANYBODY ELSE
SO WE'LL UM, END NOW AND THEN WE'LL EAT THE REST OF THE LUNCH.