WE NEED TO GET MOVING SO WE WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
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ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST BUSINESS ITEM IS TO WELCOME OUR ABOUT TO BE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, MR.[1. Discussion/Introduction and the Administering of the Oath of Office, for Mr. Will Clark, newly appointed Planning Commission member.]
WILL CLARK [APPLAUSE]. I ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS MR. WILL CLARK. I'VE KNOWN WILL SINCE I FIRST CAME TO ANGLETON 40 YEARS AGO.I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THIS COMMISSION, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HIM SERVING.
IN JUST A MOMENT WE'RE GOING TO ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE.
AND I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHEN HENRY STARTED.
SO IT'S ANYWHERE FROM 25 PLUS YEARS THAT HENRY WAS, WAS ON THE COMMISSION.
BUT AT THIS POINT, WE NEED TO ADMINISTER THE OATH TO MR. WILL CLARK, OUR NEWLY APPOINTED PLANNING COMMISSIONER.
AND SO WHO'S GOING TO ADMINISTER THE OATH? OKAY. IF YOU LIFT UP YOUR RIGHT HAND.
I, WILL CLARK FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
PLACE TWO FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS.
CITY OF ANGLETON AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND, PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THIS STATE AND THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCES OF THE CITY.
CHARTER AND ORDINANCES OF THE CITY.
ALL RIGHT [APPLAUSE]. NOW, SOME COMMISSIONS IN GOVERNING BODIES MIGHT TAKE 15 MINUTES TO HAVE COOKIES AND DRINKS AND SNACKS.
BUT BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD LUNCH YET, SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MOVING.
SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS NEXT ITEM SINCE WILL IT'S NOT GOING TO KNOW IF IT'S CORRECT OR NOT.
[2. Discussion and possible action on the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held on September 19, 2023.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 19TH OF 2023, HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES, AND IF SO, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES.ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MISS EBY.
WAS THERE A SECOND SECOND BY MISS BIERI? IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.
[3. Discussion and possible action on the election of a Vice-chairperson for the Planning and Zoning Commission.]
ALL RIGHT. ITEM THREE.I THINK HENRY SERVED IN THAT, IN THAT CAPACITY ON AN INFORMAL BASIS.
AND OTIS HAS SUGGESTED, I GUESS SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL ENTERTAIN A SOMEONE TO NOMINATE SOMEONE I DID SPEAK TO HER AND SHE SAID THAT'D BE FINE.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A NOMINATION FOR DEB SPOOR.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? WELL, I'M NOT HEARING ANY, I GUESS.
DEB SPOOR IS NOMINATED BY ACCLAMATION AS OUR NEW VICE CHAIRPERSON.
SO YAY! WE'RE NOT GOING TO CELEBRATE THAT EITHER, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING.
[4. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action on a request for approval of an ordinance amending the City of Angleton Code of Ordinances, Zoning Chapter 28, and Chapter 23- Land Development Code, including Sections 28-41 through Sections 28-62 – Residential and Commercial Zoning Districts, Section 23-115–Standard language for special plat elements, Subsection C. Fire lanes and fire easements, Street pavement width requirement modifications. ARTICLE II. – Subdivision and Development Design, Section 23-12, Table 23-12.1, Street Dimension Standards, and Streets and Driveways, Section 129, and Section 28-101 Off-street and loading requirements (11).J. Fire Lanes, providing for clarity on area regulations, setback requirements and other standards, as set out and applicable in each Zoning district.]
28 AND CHAPTER 23 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, INCLUDING SECTIONS 28-41 THROUGH SECTION 28-62 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.SECTION 23-115 STANDARD LANGUAGE FOR SPECIAL PLAT ELEMENTS.
SUBSECTION C FIRE LANES AND FIRE EASEMENTS.
STREET PAVEMENT WIDTH REQUIREMENTS MODIFICATIONS.
ARTICLE TWO SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT DESIGN.
TABLE 23-12.1 STREET DIMENSION, STANDARDS AND STREETS AND DRIVEWAYS.
SECTION 129 AND SECTION 28-101 OFF STREET AND LOADING REQUIREMENTS 11 J.
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YOU DON'T NEED TO WAIT TILL THE END AND TRY TO REMEMBER WHAT THE QUESTION WAS.AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION BY MISS TOWNSEND.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MISS BIERI? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
ALL RIGHT, OTIS, YOU'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CHAIR. YOU HAVE, OF COURSE, SUMMARIZED THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
THIS IS THE WAY WE HAVE ADVERTISED IT, PER THE REQUIREMENTS FOR NEWSPAPER LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE'RE HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSION BY THE CITY COUNCIL AS I DESCRIBED IN THE COVER.
THESE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SORT OF SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE CAUSE AND EFFECT ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH SOME OF THE SUBDIVISION SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, WHERE YOU SEE IN THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH WE'RE HAVING AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THE SIDEWALK TRAVEL AREA.
SO FROM A PEDESTRIAN STANDPOINT, THIS COULD BE PROBLEMATIC WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH ADA COMPLIANCE, STROLLERS AND SAFETY OF CHILDREN AT PLAY IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WHAT THIS IS DOING, IF YOU ROLL DOWN GRADES, THIS WOULD SHOW YOU WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE CHALLENGE WOULD BE OUR STREET WIDTH RESTRICTIONS HERE AT 28FT.
IN SOME INSTANCES, IT DEPENDS ON IF THEY DO IT BACK TO BACK ON THE CURB.
WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE TRAVEL DISTANCE TO 30FT TO SORT OF COMBAT THIS PROBLEM.
BUT HOWEVER, THIS WOULD BE AN INSTANCE WHERE IF THE 30FT COMES TO BE UNREASONABLE, THEN THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO IMPOSE THE ONE SIDE OF ROAD PARKING IN SOME OF THE NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS.
I KNOW IN SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT.
THE OTHER PHOTOGRAPH SHOWED THE CUL DE SAC SITUATION.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES THERE ARE PARTIES GOING ON AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL, WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY RATING THE CUL DE SACS AS FIRE LANES TO PREVENT THIS AND THEN HAVING SOME SENSE OF ENFORCEABILITY ON THAT LEVEL.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE, OF COURSE, THE FIRE CHIEF AND ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY POLICE AND WORKING WITH COUNCIL JUST TO SEE WHAT THE DETAILS OF ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO ON OCTOBER THE 26TH, WE HELD A WORK SESSION JUST TO GET A LITTLE FEEDBACK FROM THE DESIGN COMMUNITY, THE BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS AND THOSE THAT OWN PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE SUMMATIONS OF THE COMMENTS.
AND YOU PROBABLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THESE.
AND SOME OF THEM WERE COMMENTS ALONG THE STREET, PAVEMENT WIDTH IN TERMS OF CLARITY.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, BLOCKING OF SIDEWALKS IS SORT OF TALKED ABOUT HERE, AND THEN QUESTIONS ABOUT FIRE TRUCK HOSE REACH AND ALL OF THAT.
SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THIS IS COORDINATED.
BUT OUR HOPES HERE IS THAT ON MORE OF YOUR LARGER AND STANDARD LOTS, SUCH AS 6.3 OR 7.2 SFR, THOSE DISTRICTS BEING 50 AND 60 FOOT LOTS, TYPICALLY THE 60 FOOT LOT THRESHOLD, WE FEEL THE INCREASE OF A SETBACK TO 10 FEET COULD WORK IN THAT SITUATION.
HOWEVER, IF YOU WOULD LOOK DOWN AT THE TABLE.
THERE YOU GO. GRACE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THIS WOULD OUTLINE THOSE FRONT YARD PROPOSED CHANGES.
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REALLY WORKED IN THAT SITUATION.SO COUNCIL IS HAVING STAFF PROVIDE THESE INCREASES OF 35 IN THE FRONT YARD ON MOST OF THE LOTS, AND THEN ON THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.
THEY'RE REALLY HOPING TO ACHIEVE THE 10 FOOT THRESHOLD TO PROVIDE SOME SEPARATION OF THE HOUSES.
SO IF YOU WERE TO IMPOSE A TEN FOOT SETBACK, IT WOULD DEEM THAT PROPERTY ALMOST NOT DEVELOPABLE, OR YOU WOULD HAVE SUCH A NARROW BUILDING THAT WOULD LOOK BASICALLY THE WIDTH OF A DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR FOLKS WOULD BE FORCED TO GO UP HIGHER THAN ONE STORY.
SO WITH THE PRODUCT THAT OUR RANCH STYLE HOMES THAT GO DEEPER INTO THE PROPERTY, SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS, AS SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS HAVE COMMENTED TO US, WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD DEEM THOSE PROPERTIES NOT FEASIBLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US LIVE IN RANCH STYLE HOMES THAT ARE DEEPER ON THE LOT.
SO WITH AN INCREASED FRONT YARD SETBACK, IT WOULD MAKE THAT HOME THAT'S 57FT LONG, DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP, ALTHOUGH THAT'S A PRODUCT THAT I THINK IS IN HIGH DEMAND.
UNDEVELOPABLE UNDEVELOPABLE IN THAT DISTRICT IN THAT THEY HAVE TO LIKE BUMP UP TO A LARGER.
SO IN SOME OF THE LOTS, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ONLY HAVE A 100 FOOT LOT, RIGHT, THAT THAT SCENARIO DOESN'T WORK WELL, BUT IF YOU HAVE A 120 FOOT LOT, YOU KNOW, THOSE IN REAL ESTATE WOULD WOULD PROBABLY AGREE THAT, HEY, THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK OUT.
IT'S JUST THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO FROWN ON LOTS THAT ARE 100FT AND MORE SHALLOW.
I THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT.
SO WE MAY LOOK AT THAT AS WELL ON SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE'RE REQUESTING THAT COUNCIL INCREASE THOSE TO AT LEAST 35FT ON THAT.
SO YOU MAY SEE THE END SLASH A IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IN WHICH FRONTAGE IS NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS ARE PULLED TO THE SIDEWALK. THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, BESIDES THE THE PAVEMENT WIDTH OF STREETS BEING 30FT IN MOST OF YOUR DISTRICTS THAT YOU SEE THERE AND THEN IN AGRICULTURE OR YOUR REAL ESTATE ESTATE LOTS.
THESE REQUIREMENTS SHOULD NOT PLAY ANY CHALLENGES WHATSOEVER.
WE'VE ATTACHED A MARKUP OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES IN WHICH WE ARE, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO ADD ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU PROVIDE OR THAT WE RECEIVE TODAY OR IN THE INTERIM, EVEN FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AND OWNER COMMUNITY, AND THEN WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE TO COUNCIL.
WE'RE HOPING TO GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU TO COUNCIL, AND THEN OPEN THIS UP INTO PUBLIC HEARING FOR COUNCIL AND MAYBE HOLD IT TWO MEETINGS, HOPEFULLY JUST TO EXHAUST OUR EFFORTS IN EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON THE PURPOSE OF THESE PARTICULAR CHANGES.
THE VIDEO FROM THE WORKSHOP ON THE 26TH IS AVAILABLE, AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE LINK IN THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA IN WHICH YOU CAN REVIEW THAT FROM YOU AND THE PUBLIC. AND THEN WE'RE STILL RECEIVING COMMENTS.
AND THEN LEGAL IS OF COURSE STILL REVIEWING THIS.
SO LEGAL IS STILL UNDER REVIEW AS WELL.
SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD HEAR COMMENTS AND POSSIBLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION SUBJECT TO FINAL LEGAL REVIEW, AND THEN ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT ADD AS A CONDITION.
ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ISSUE? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO MOVED. SECOND BY MISS EBY AND A SECOND BY MISS BIERI.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
OKAY, SO TO BE CLEAR, ARE THESE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATIONS? SO IN RESPONSE TO THE 2 OR 3 MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HELD IN TERMS OF UPDATING THE COUNCIL, THEY'VE GIVEN US FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION.
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HEY, THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO MOVE IN AND BRING THAT BACK TO US IN A FORMAL PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT.AND THEN THAT'S WHERE WE LAND TODAY.
SO I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING I FULLY SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.
I HAVE BEEN IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH AN OBSTACLE COURSE, AND NOT ONLY IS IT FRUSTRATING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, OF NAVIGATING IT IS DANGEROUS WHERE YOU'VE GOT LITTLE KIDS THAT CAN DASH OUT FROM BETWEEN CARS AND THAT IRRITATES ME. WELL, JUST A COMMENT REAL QUICK TOO I KNOW JUST ON CAR LENGTH ITSELF, LIKE MY HUSBAND AND I BOTH DRIVE KIND OF BIG CARS.
MINE IS 17FT LONG AND HIS IS IT'S A SHORT WHEELBASE FOUR DOOR TRUCK.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE WE'D BE STILL BE HANGING OUT ON 35 FOOT LOT.
BUT IF I HAD JUST A REGULAR CAR, I THINK THEY'RE 14FT LONG.
AND THEN HIS CAR WOULD BE ABOUT BALANCE AND NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE BIG VEHICLES.
I'M JUST VERY PLEASED THAT YOU ALL INCREASED IT AT LEAST TO THE 35.
I WAS JUST DOING THE YES THAT LENGTH.
YEAH. WE TRIED TO LOOK AT THAT.
THANK YOU. AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON A CUL DE SAC, I APPRECIATE THIS AS WELL BECAUSE WE OFTEN HAVE TO TAKE OUR TRASH OR RECYCLING TO THE MAIN STREET IF WE WANT IT PICKED UP, BECAUSE THE TRUCKS ARE RESTRICTED BECAUSE OF THE PARKING ON THERE.
IT'S NARROW. SO I APPRECIATE THIS VISION AND SUPPORT IT.
AND I'M WILLING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHENEVER WE'RE READY TO ENTERTAIN ONE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH ABOUT ALL IT WOULD IT IDEALLY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LOVELY IF WE HAD THIS BEFORE WE HAD THESE DEVELOPERS DEVELOPING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WEREN'T FIRED UP ABOUT KNOW SIZE ANYWAY, HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT? HAVE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT.
WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LEGAL WILL BE GIVING US INPUT ON IN TERMS OF GRANDFATHERED IN USES, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE SUNSHINING ANYTHING, THERE WILL BE SOME PROTECTIONS ON THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY VETTED AND APPROVED.
WE KNOW THAT IN THE ETJ WE DO NOT HAVE AUTHORITY ON THE ZONING SIDE.
BUT I THINK WE'LL ENTERTAIN THIS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TRY TO SUPPORT THE REASONING WHY.
AS A PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, I PUT SOME CRITERIA.
WE BASICALLY HAVE TO WEIGH THOSE CRITERIA THAT ARE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS THE REASONING BEHIND WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WE'LL WORK WITH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT. AND JUDITH IS HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS, SHE CAN ANSWER THOSE.
OR JUDITH, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE CONVERSATION, FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
MR. WHITTAKER, YOU GOT YOUR HAND UP.
IT WILL IMPACT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE IN PLACE OF SOME SORT SO THAT THEY KNOW THEY CAN PLAN ON WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT WE END UP AGREEING IN THE FUTURE. SAME THING WITH THE ETJ.
IF WE END UP IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH SOMEONE COMING IN, WE CAN SAY THESE ARE OUR CURRENT BUILDOUT REQUIREMENTS AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.
AND SO THEN CONTINUED CLARIFICATION.
THANK YOU. WHAT ABOUT THE PHASES? ARE THEY CONSIDERED ALREADY DONE THE PHASES THAT WE HAVE NOT YET APPROVED OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY? WE'VE APPROVED PHASE ONE.
WE'VE APPROVED PHASE TWO, BUT THEY HAVEN'T COME TO US FOR PHASE THREE FOUR WHATEVER YET.
OR THEY'VE COME TO US FOR ALL OF THOSE.
AND REALLY, IT'S A MATTER OF THEM BUILDING THEM OUT.
OKAY. SO SO WE'VE APPROVED ALL THAT ARE ON THE ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. AND WINDOWS GREEN ARE SET AND THIS WON'T IMPACT THEM.
IT'S NOT IN PLACE, BUT MAYBE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT YOU TO COMPLY WITH THEM.
OR AGAIN, ONCE WE PASS THE ORDINANCE, THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO HAVE TO.
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IT'S GOING TO APPLY TO THEM. YEAH.AND THEN SOME OF THE ANY TYPE OF BULK REQUIREMENTS ON THE LOTS, THE ZONING.
CITY MANAGER CHRIS IS CORRECT.
THERE ARE SOME RIGHT OF WAY CHANGES THAT WE'RE DOING IN TERMS OF ESTABLISHING FIRE LANES, OR IF THE CITY DECIDES TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF PARKING.
THOSE ARE USUALLY ACTS OF CONGRESS, CONGRESS, COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, THAT COULD FIT INTO THOSE SITUATIONS IN SOME OF OUR EXISTING CONDITIONS BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.
OKAY. IF I COULD INTERJECT ON THAT AND THEN KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT BILL SAID EARLIER ABOUT SAFETY, I WOULD LIKE, I GUESS, IF COUNCIL IS GOING TO TAKE UP THAT ISSUE, TO ALSO TAKE UP THE ISSUE OF THE I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S AN ORDINANCE OR A TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE PROVISION ABOUT PARKING ACROSS SIDEWALKS, THAT THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE CURRENTLY ENFORCED, BUT I'VE SEEN SOME VERY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS OCCUR WITH YOUNG CHILDREN ON BIKES AND PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS HAVING TO LEAVE A SIDEWALK TO GO AROUND A CAR, AND THEY'RE OUT IN TRAFFIC, ALMOST BEING HIT BY VEHICLES ON THE ROADWAY.
SO I SHARED WITH OTIS IN A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION YESTERDAY THAT WHEN I LIVED IN LAKE JACKSON MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT SAID THAT YOU COULD NOT PARK IN THE STREET BETWEEN THE HOURS OF MIDNIGHT AND 5 A.M., OR SOMETHING IN THAT RANGE THAT EFFECTIVELY ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE.
AND SO I WOULD REMIND COUNCIL THAT SUCH A MEANS OF ENFORCING THIS MIGHT EXIST IF THAT'S DEEMED ILLEGAL, ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THE FIRESTORM THAT PRECEDED THAT WOULD.
AND THEN HOA REQUIREMENTS ALSO PLAY INTO THIS ALSO.
SO IN THE FUTURE, IF WE HAVE NEW HOA DOCUMENTATIONS AS WE NEGOTIATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, WE'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE THESE THINGS ARE INCORPORATED IN THAT DOCUMENT AS WELL AS A NEGOTIATING TOOL.
VERY GOOD. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I COMMEND THE FORWARD THINKING.
AND DO YOU WANT A RECOMMENDATION? STAFF RECOMMENDS I MOVE THAT WE WE RECOMMEND RECOMMEND.
YES. THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TEXT OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON CODE OF ORDINANCE ZONING CHAPTER 28 AND CHAPTER 23 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, INCLUDING SECTIONS 28-41 THROUGH SECTIONS 28-62.
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. EBY AND A SECOND BY MS. BIERI. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.
[5. Discussion and possible action on a Final Plat for Angleton Park Place Subdivision Section 2.]
MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE.DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR ANGLETON PARK PLACE SUBDIVISION, SECTION TWO.
SO WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ANGLETON PARK PLACE SECTION TWO FINAL PLAT.
FIRST, IT HAS 32 LOTS, TWO BLOCKS.
IT'S 5.184 ACRES LOCATED AROUND EAST PHILLIPS AND GIFFORD INTERSECTION.
THE SECTION ONE FINAL PLAT WAS APPROVED IN.
I MEAN, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS APPROVED IN JUNE OF 2023, AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE SECOND SECTION WAS APPROVED SHORTLY AFTER THAT IN JULY OF 2023.
THE SECTION WILL OBTAIN ACCESS FROM PARK PLACE BOULEVARD THAT CONNECTS TO EAST PHILLIPS ROAD AND THE CITY ENGINEER COMMENTS HAVE BEEN COPIED.
THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CITY AND ARE CURRENTLY UNDER ENGINEERING REVIEW.
SO ALL HAVE ALL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED BY THE APPLICANT AND THE ANGLETON PARK PLACE SECTION TWO FINAL PLAT DOES MEET THE CITY DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS, SO WE ARE REQUESTING P&Z TO PROVIDE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION WHILE MOVING THE FINAL PLAT FORWARD TO ACTION BY CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, NOW MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THIS IS FOR WILL'S BENEFIT AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, IS THAT AT THE FINAL PLAT STAGE, AS LONG AS THE PLAT MEETS ALL OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE NO REASONABLE REASON
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FOR DECLINING THE PLAT.BUT AS A COMMISSION, YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS AND.
SO WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? IT'S ON PAGE 87.
I MOVE WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR ANGLETON PARK PLACE SUBDIVISION SECTION TWO, AS BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ACCEPTED AND FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION, SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I HAVE A MOTION BY MISS TOWNSEND.
I HAVE A SECOND BY MISS BIERI.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, YOU DID SAY THAT THAT AGREEMENT IS FINAL, RIGHT? IT'S BEEN EXECUTED. YES.
THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THIS CASE.
BUT YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT. I THINK YOU SAID DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS ALREADY APPROVED.
YES, THAT'S WHAT I STARTED WITH BUT THEN I SAID SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL, I THINK OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH I WOULD AMEND MY MOTION TO BE SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL OF THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS.
AND IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.
[6. Discussion and possible action on a Final Plat for Ashland Model Home Park.]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHLAND MODEL HOME PARK CAMPUS.OKAY, WE'RE HERE FOR FINAL PLAT APPROVAL FOR NINE LOTS ON 3.46 ACRES.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE ETJ AND WE DON'T HAVE ZONING ALLOWANCE THERE.
EXCEPT OTHER THAN WHAT'S DETAILED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED WITH CITY COUNCIL, THE ASHLAND MODEL HOME PARK IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
IN TERMS OF LOT SIZE AND CONFIGURATION, THE SECTION HAS A RANGE OF LOTS THAT HAVE FRONTAGE FROM 50 TO 60FT, AND THE LOTS ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED WITH MODEL HOMES EXPECTED TO SHOWCASE, I GUESS, THEIR RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT OFFERINGS OF THE SUBDIVISION.
THE ROADS ARE IN THE SECTION ONE STREET DEDICATION PLAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED S EPARATELY, THE CITY ENGINEER'S INITIAL REVIEW IS COPIED. THEIR COMMENTS WERE PRIMARILY TEXTUAL IN NATURE.
THEY'RE EXPECTED TO BE FULLY SATISFIED PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL'S FINAL PLAT APPROVAL.
THE ASHLAND SUBDIVISION IS STILL UNDER REVIEW, WITH THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND THE BRAZORIA COUNTY ENGINEERING FOR THE MASS DRAINAGE APPROVALS. AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING THE DRAINAGE APPROVALS IN PHASES.
THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE AUTHORITY SUCH AS TXDOT AND THE BRAZORIA COUNTY, BECAUSE BRAZORIA COUNTY IS GOING TO BE DOING THE ROADS OUT. THERE ARE ALSO UNDER A, YOU KNOW, COOPERATIVE WORKING TOWARDS THE FINAL APPROVALS FOR THAT.
THOSE DO HAVE TO BE PROVIDED AND APPROVED BEFORE ANY PLAT COULD ACTUALLY BE RECORDED.
AND DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, SELLING OF LOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT COULD MOVE FORWARD.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE AS A COMMISSION, DON'T NEED TO CONCERN OURSELVES WITH THAT ASPECT OF THIS PROJECT? I MEAN, YES, WE'RE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE COMMENTARY ABOUT IT, BUT TYPICALLY THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS.
YES. I MEAN, WE WOULD PROBABLY GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT.
YES, YES, THAT IT WOULD BE CONTINGENT.
THE REFERRAL AGENCIES IS A REQUIREMENT.
BUT ALSO NOTED THAT IT WON'T ACTUALLY GET RECORDED BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ACTUALLY SIGN THE FACE OF THE PLAT BEFORE IT CAN BE RECORDED. SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHY DOES THIS COME BEFORE US BEFORE ALL THAT IS DONE?
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BECAUSE WE HAVE THE JURISDICTION TO DIVIDE THE LOTS.THE ETJ EXTENDS A CERTAIN DISTANCE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.
BUT WHY NOT WAIT TILL NEXT MONTH? NEXT MONTH.
TILL THE WHAT THE DRAINAGE IS APPROVED? REVIEW AND APPROVE SOMETHING.
BUT IF IT MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS AND THE THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS, THEN WE.
AND WE'VE GOT TO TAKE ACTION BY THE TIME WE GET TO THIS.
ALL RIGHT. OTHERWISE WHAT IT'S DEEMED APPROVED.
IT CAN BE APPROVED WITHOUT OUR COMMENT.
AND THEY SAY, OKAY, WE'LL DO THAT, BUT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
SO WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF NEGOTIATING POWER THERE.
JUST AS THE RATES ARE UP, THE COVID BUST IS GONE.
I COMMEND THEM FOR IT, I REALLY DO.
IT'S JUST IT'S GOING TO MAKE A JUST GOING TO SLOW THE OVERALL MARKER DOWN [INAUDIBLE].
RIGHT. WE WE DO ALSO HAVE IN THE IF YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE THE SHOW WITH THE THE LOT MIX THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE, THE SIZING OF THE LOT.
WE'RE AT THE FINAL PHASE OF THIS AND THE TIME TO PUSH BACK ON THAT WAS A FEW STEPS AGO.
IT WAS BEFORE. AND WE DID PUSH BACK DIDN'T WE? WE DID. YEAH. WE I MEAN, SO THAT SHOWS HOW EFFECTIVE.
BUT ALSO I MEAN THERE IS YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD SUBMIT IT TO US AND WE COULD SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT OR WHATEVER, BUT IF IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, THEN WE'RE KIND OF AT THIS CATCH WHERE WE MAY NOT GET ANY SAY, WELL, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S TAKE ACTION SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO NUMBER SEVEN AND HAVE A SIMILAR DISCUSSION. I'LL MOVE WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR THE ASHLAND MODEL HOME PARK CONDITION ON ALL ENGINEERING COMMENTS AND STAFF COMMENTS BEING CLEARED, PROVIDED THE APPROVAL IS GRANTED BY OTHER REFERRAL AGENCIES AND THEN FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MISS TOWNSEND AND A SECOND BY MR. CLARK. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION.
SO IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THEN THEY'RE FREE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THE PLATS.
WITH THE WITH THE PROPERTY LINES.
JUDITH, WE HAVE A NEW MEMBERS, IF YOU DON'T MIND INTRODUCING YOURSELF BRIEFLY.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JUDITH [INAUDIBLE].
SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW ME SOME OF YOU DON'T.
I WORK WITH THE RENTAL OFFICE.
WE ARE THE APPOINTED CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
VERY NICE TO MEET YOU AND WELCOME.
THANK YOU. DO WE STILL HAVE A VACANCY OR DO WE JUST HAVE.
THE TIMELINE THAT EVERYONE IS REFERRING TO IS IN THE VERNACULAR.
IT'S KNOWN AS THE SHOT CLOCK STATUTE.
MUCH OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE IS WRITTEN TO FAVOR DEVELOPERS, SO I ALWAYS HAVE TO PREFACE ANY DISCUSSION WITH THAT, BECAUSE I OFTEN HEAR FROM THE P&Z MEMBERS AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL 14 ENTITIES THAT OUR LAW FIRM REPRESENTS, THAT, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A SAY.
WELL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SAY, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO AUSTIN AND PASS THE LAWS.
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OKAY, SO YES, YOU'RE RIGHT WHEN YOU PERCEIVE THAT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.SO THE SHOT CLOCK LAW BASICALLY MEANS THAT ONCE A DEVELOPER FILES A PLAT, WHETHER IT BE A PRELIMINARY PLAT OR A FINAL PLAT, THERE ARE 30 DAYS THAT THE ENTITY, THE MUNICIPAL ENTITY THAT HAS TO REVIEW IT HAS TO ACT IN YOUR CITY, IN YOUR ORDINANCES.
AND THEN IT GOES TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT DON'T DO IT THAT WAY.
YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW BIG THOSE THOSE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST CORPORATE SIZE.
SO THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS HERE, THAT IT COMES TO YOU FIRST.
THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS IF YOU DO NOTHING RIGHT, IF SOMETHING COMES TO YOU AND YOU DO NOTHING, MY FIRST RESPONSE TO THAT QUERY WOULD BE, YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB. YOUR JOB IS SET OUT TO BE THAT ADVISORY BODY.
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND GIVE SOME ADVISORY INPUT TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL, YOUR CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE YOUR BODY IS THE IN-BETWEEN BETWEEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THE HOUSES AND YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT SIT UP HERE AT THE DESK.
THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
AND PRESUMABLY MUCH OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY.
RIGHT? SO SO IT'S REALLY AN IMPORTANT JOB.
DON'T DON'T FORGET THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND ALL THAT MEANS IS YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE MUNICIPAL BODY HAS TO APPROVE ASSUMING THE PLAN OR PLAT OR WHATEVER THAT COMES TO YOU IS IS CORRECT.
SO IF YOU'RE BUILDING SERVICES DIRECTOR OTIS AND CANDACE TELL YOU IT'S CORRECT, AND IF YOUR ENGINEER SAYS IT'S CORRECT, THEN YOUR JOB IS TO APPROVE.
OR WE RECOMMEND AN APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE ENGINEER'S REVIEW OR FINAL REVIEW OR FINAL COMMENT.
THEN YOU DO THAT AND MY ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
THAT FEEDBACK IS WHAT CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO HEAR, BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL CAN'T BE ON EVERY RESIDENTIAL STREET, IN EVERY BUSINESS, AND IT CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE.
THANK YOU JUDITH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE SO BY SAYING AYE.
[7. Discussion and possible action on a Final Plat for Ashland Subdivision Section 1.]
CANDICE OKAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT ASHLAND SECTION ONE.IT CONSISTS OF 58 LOTS, THREE BLOCKS, FOUR RESERVES, 17.02 ACRES.
ALL LOTS IN THE SECTION ARE 60FT OR WIDER.
THESE ROADS WERE ALREADY APPROVED AND REVIEWED PREVIOUSLY IN THE SECTION ONE STREET DEDICATION PLAT.
THE ENGINEER'S REVIEW IS COPIED FOR REFERENCE.
THERE WERE COMMENTS TEXTUAL IN NATURE.
THE APPLICANTS RESPONDED TO THE COMMENTS.
CORRECTIONS ARE UNDER REVIEW FOR CLEARANCE PRIOR TO FINAL PLAT RECORDING.
AND AGAIN, THEY'RE STILL UNDER THE A.
THE ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT, BRAZORIA COUNTY ENGINEERING, AND THE BRAZORIA COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND TXDOT REFERRAL AGENCY REVIEW FOR APPROVAL. UM, THEIR APPROVALS ARE IN PROGRESS.
THEY'LL BE APPROVED PRIOR TO THE CREATION OF THE PLAT.
SO IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHLAND SECTION ONE.
THEN FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY MISS TOWNSEND AND A SECOND BY MR. CLARK. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
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IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION DO SO BY SAYING AYE.AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
[8. Discussion and possible action on a Final Plat for Ashland Subdivision Section 2]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A FINAL PLAT FOR ASHLAND SUBDIVISION.SAME BILL. WELL, YOU DON'T NEED TO READ THE WHOLE THING IF IT'S THE SAME SPIEL.
WELL, IT'S A 62 LOTS, TWO BLOCKS, THREE RESERVES, 14.26 ACRES THIS TIME.
THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS HERE ARE 50 FOOT.
HOWEVER, THERE'S SEVERAL THAT ARE ON THE CORNERS AND THE CURVATURES THAT HAVE A FRONTAGE INCREASE.
SECTION TWO OBTAINS THE SAME ACCESS REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.
WE'RE WAITING TO CLEAR THE COMMENTS.
SAME REFERRAL AGENCIES WAITING FOR THOSE APPROVALS.
ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CANDACE? DID I MISS IT? THIS ONE'S ALSO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE.
WE DO HAVE THE LOT MIX CHART THAT SHOWS THE LOT FRONTAGES, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THAT.
AND WE'RE DROPPING BACK DOWN TO 50 FOOT LOTS AGAIN.
SO THE SMALLER ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS A MINIMUM OF 10% OF 50 FOOT LOTS, WITH A MAXIMUM OF 50% IN THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'RE IN SECTION ONE AND TWO OF THE MODEL HOMES.
BUT AGAIN, LATER ON, OF COURSE, WE CANNOT DENY AT THIS STAGE OF THE PROCESS BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE DON'T LIKE THE LOT SIZES, RIGHT, UNTIL THEY A COUPLE STAGES AGO, BUT NOT NOW, WHENEVER THEY GET TO ABOUT 50% OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IF THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO DO MORE THAN 50% AS WHAT'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT THAT TIME? YES. WE WOULD NOT BE HERE.
WE WOULDN'T BE HERE RECOMMENDING IT.
IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR ASHLAND SECTION TWO CONDITION THAT ALL FINAL ENGINEERING COMMENTS ARE CLEARED AND PROVIDED APPROVAL IS GRANTED BY OTHER REFERRAL AGENCIES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. TOWNSEND AND A SECOND BY MS. BIERI. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION DO SO BY SAYING AYE.
MOTION CARRIES AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
NOT A RECORD, BUT NOT BAD.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.