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[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
[1. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Better Living Corporation meeting of October 16, 2023.]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION MEETING OF AUGUST 23RD.I MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MEETING.
MINUTES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
I'M SORRY. CAN YOU REITERATE THE DATE THAT IS LISTED? AUGUST 21ST, 2023.
WE HAVE IT HERE ON THE AGENDA AS OCTOBER 16TH.
LET'S SEE IF I HAVE THE MOST CURRENT ONE UP HERE.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THEN, I WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT AGAIN.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION FOR THE OCTOBER 16TH, 2023? WELL, I DID SAY LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS THAT DATE, BUT YES.
I MEAN, I HEARD THE SAME THING RIGHT.
LAST MEETING. I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE VOTE AGAIN JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
[2. Discussion and possible action on the Angleton Better Living Corporation, Recreation division, and Angleton Recreation Center division YTD financial statements as of October 31, 2023.]
YEAR TO DATE. FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS OF OCTOBER 31ST, 2023.THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION ENDED HAS A FUND BALANCE AS OF OCTOBER 31ST OF $337,966.
THAT IS THE PRELIMINARY NUMBER.
AND AS WELL AS THE TRANSFER THAT THE THIS BOARD HAS ASKED US TO MAKE FROM THE RECREATION CENTER TO THE BETTER LIVING CORPORATION AS AFTER WE CLOSE OUT THE YEAR.
THE RECREATION DIVISION ENDED THE MONTH WITH A FUND BALANCE OF $58,107, AND THE RECREATION CENTER HAS A FUND BALANCE OF $307,365.
ALSO OF NOTE IS THAT THERE ARE SOME FINAL.
THERE CAN BE SOME YEAR END ENTRIES THAT WILL AFFECT THESE FUND BALANCES.
BUT SO THIS IS THE BEST I CAN GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW.
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE YEAR END ITEMS THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING TO COME IN? FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL HAVE TO DO AN ACCRUAL FOR PAYROLL THAT HASN'T BEEN POSTED YET.
ANY EXPENSES THAT CAME IN THAT IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER THAT WE HAVEN'T TAKEN CARE OF, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.
THOSE KIND OF THINGS AS WELL AS THE SALES TAX, LIKE I TOLD YOU.
WERE YOU ESTIMATING TO FINISH? WHAT ARE WE TALKING? GIVE ME A BALLPARK. 100,000.
200,000. FOR WHICH ONE? HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE? THE REC CENTER, NOT THE REC CENTER.
THE ABLC DOWN FROM FROM ABLC WILL BE INCREASING.
INCREASING? YOU'RE TAKING MONEY FROM THE EVEN AFTER THE YEAR END ENTRIES? YES, BECAUSE WE HAD ONE OF THE YEAR END ENTRIES WILL BE TO ADD THE NOVEMBER SALES TAX INTO SEPTEMBER 30TH FUND BALANCE.
THEN WE MAKE THE TRANSFER FROM THE RECREATION CENTER TO THE.
OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? IT'S JUST HARD TO GET AN IDEA WHEN THERE'S STILL MORE THINGS COMING THROUGH.
I DID SEE THAT THE SALES TAX CAME THROUGH AND IT WAS UP SLIGHTLY, RIGHT? IT WAS. IT WAS JUST SLIGHTLY OVER.
SO FOR THE YEAR WE'RE AT 77% YEAR OVER YEAR.
YES. AND WHAT DID WE BUDGET DO YOU REMEMBER FOR SALES TAX.
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EIGHT. SO WE'RE RIGHT THERE.JUMP ON IN WHEN YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
ALL RIGHT. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
DO YOU NEED ANY ACTION ON THIS? DO YOU NEED US TO ADOPT ANYTHING OR.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT PUTS US? I MEAN, ARE WE IN A HEALTHY POSITION? ARE WE? I THINK WE'RE DEFINITELY IN A HEALTHY POSITION.
AS PHIL MENTIONED, THE REC CENTER FUND BALANCE IS ALREADY I MEAN, WE'RE AT 300,000, SO YOU'RE MINIMALLY GOING TO HAVE $200,000 TRANSFER BASED ON WHERE WE ENDED AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, EVEN THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR ELC.
WE DID NOT EXPENSE ALL OF OUR ITEMS FOR EVEN OUR PROJECT CONTINGENCY.
SOME OF THEM ARE NULL AND VOID, AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE $20,000 FOR THE TEX-DOT TRAILS MASTER PLAN, WE WERE NOT GRANTED THAT.
YOU'LL SEE. WE'LL HAVE TO ABSORB.
SO IT'S A SAVINGS AND PARKS CONTINGENCY PROJECT FUNDS.
BUT IT'S GOING TO HIT YOUR YOUR ACCOUNT THIS YEAR.
SO YOU'RE AT 337,000 TRANSFER OF 200,000.
AND THEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT WHATEVER OUR OUR SALES TAX IS FOR THE FOLLOWING MONTH.
SO AGAIN I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION.
SO I THINK IT WAS A SMART DECISION.
DO WE HAVE IS, I GUESS FOR THE NEXT MEETING, SOMEONE'S GOING TO SAY, OKAY, HERE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAD IN THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET THAT DIDN'T GET PERFORMED AND WHAT'S COMMITTED TO NEXT YEARS? IT'D BE NICE TO SEE A TRACKING OF THAT, JUST SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND.
SURE. AND I KNOW WE HAD THAT AT ONE TIME.
WE CAN BRING THAT BACK. I'LL WORK WITH PHIL ON DEVELOPING THAT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT IN A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S BUDGETED, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN SPENT OR X NUMBER OF DOLLARS HAVE BEEN SPENT TODAY, FOR INSTANCE, THAT ONE THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED BUT IS NOT COMPLETE IS THE FREEDOM PARK PASSIVE DESIGN.
AND SO WE'RE ON TASK NUMBER THREE.
THEY'RE NOT DONE WITH THAT. SO WE'LL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS.
THAT WAS A BUDGET OF AROUND $64,000.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HIT THAT THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR AS WELL.
BUT REALLY THAT PROJECT OUTSIDE OF I MEAN WE ALREADY CUT THE CHECK FOR NEW TENNIS COURTS.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT'S YOUR ONLY OTHER PENDING PROJECT.
WELL, I SAY THAT MY APOLOGIES.
BIG PET SOCCER COMPLEX, PARKING LOT LIGHTING.
SO THAT'S GOING TO HIT AS WELL.
BUT SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO STILL BE COMMITTED.
SO. RIGHT. AND THEY ALL UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE WILL.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER TWO? MOVING TO THREE. DISCUSSION ON ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER STAFF RETENTION PLAN.
[3. Discussion on Angleton Recreation Center staff retention plan.]
JASON, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE? IF YOU'RE ASKING, YOU'RE TELLING. VOLUNTOLD.[00:10:07]
ONE OF THE MAIN ITEMS WE WANTED TO LOOK AT WAS HOW OPERATION WAS GOING, AND HOW THAT COINCIDED WITH TWO THINGS OF A WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS US PROVIDING CUSTOMER SERVICE TO OUR MEMBERS, AND B THE STRUGGLE THAT WE'VE HAD TO MAINTAIN QUALITY STAFF AT THE FACILITY.SO WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE STRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT.
SO YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR AGENDA SUMMARY.
WE WENT TO CITY MANAGER TO PROPOSE THE CHANGE WITHIN OUR CURRENT OPERATING BUDGET.
SO WE WERE UTILIZING A CONTRACT AND SAW A GOOD RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT.
SO WE STARTED TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO YOU'LL SEE IN THAT PACKET KIND OF OUTLINES IT.
SO OUR CURRENT BUDGET FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER HAS FOUR POSITIONS.
YOUR FACILITY OPERATIONS SUPERINTENDENT, YOUR AQUATICS MANAGER.
IT WAS A RECREATION ASSISTANT.
AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE OPERATION WHICH WAS THE CUSTODIAN.
WE JUST WANTED TO REDEFINE TWO OF THOSE SO TWO OF THEM WILL STAY THE SAME.
SO AS YOU KNOW, WE SPLIT LAST YEAR TO HAVE THE REC CENTER AND THE REC, THE REC DIVISION.
IT WAS ACTUALLY FOR THE REC CENTER.
OUR HOPE THERE IS TO BE ABLE TO OFFER KIND OF A STEP PLAN FOR SOME OF OUR RISING STARS WHO ARE PART TIME STAFF, PROVIDE THEM AN INCENTIVE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE UP WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION AND HELP SUPPORT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE SIDE OF THINGS.
SO WITH THAT, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE STILL HAVE TO DO CLEANING.
SO WE ARE CONVERTING SOME OF OUR TIME FROM OUR PART TIME STAFF.
SO WITH THE MEMBER SERVICES ASSISTANCE, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE FULL TIME POSITIONS THAT WOULD WORK THE FRONT DESK FOR HALF OF THEIR JOB, AND THEN THE OTHER HALF WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK AWAY FROM THE DESK.
THEY WOULD FILL THE ROLE FROM THE 4:30 A.M.
AS FAR AS THE TWO POSITIONS WOULD GO SO THEY WOULD OVERLAP EACH OTHER, IT WOULD NO LONGER HAVE A NEED FOR PART TIME STAFF IN THE MORNING, SO IT WOULD FREE UP THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS FROM OUR PART TIME STAFF, BE ABLE TO TRANSITION THEM TO INTO MORE OF A LEADERSHIP ROLE.
IT WOULD INCREASE CONTINUITY, COMMUNICATION, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MEMBERS AND EVERYTHING BY HAVING A FULL TIME PERSON THERE VERSUS HAVING THE PART TIMERS THAT, AS I SAID, WERE KIND OF DIFFICULT TO FILL AND BRINGING THAT QUALITY OF CONSISTENCY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITHIN THE FUNDS THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD STILL OPERATE WITHIN THOSE TWO POSITIONS AND STILL HAVE THE SAVINGS THAT WE HAD FROM OUR PART TIME STAFF AND A LITTLE BIT FROM OUR GROUP EXERCISE OR FITNESS CLASSES TO BE ABLE TO COVER OUR CONTRACT CLEANING.
SO IT ALL STAYS WITHIN OUR BUDGETS.
IT KEEPS US IN LINE TO STILL STAY IN THOSE UNDER BUDGET FOR THOSE, BUT IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CUSTOMER SERVICE AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAT WILL HONE IN ON STAFF DEVELOPMENT AND WORKING WITH OUR MEMBERS.
THAT YOU TAKE ANY QUESTIONS? SO I JUST WAS THE ONE THING I WAS NOTICING HERE ON THAT ON THE CONTRACT CONSTRUCTORS.
27 CLASSES, BUT NOW WE'RE REDUCING TO 23.
SO WE WERE LOOKING TO INCREASE OUR CLASSES WHEN WE FIRST WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
BUT AFTER WE DID SOME EVALUATION ON IT AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE 23.
AND SO WE DECIDED TO STAY WITH THAT TO BE ABLE TO JUST INCREASE THE MEMBER EXPERIENCE.
I THINK WE STILL HAVE SOME REWORKING TO DO WITH THAT AND STAY WITHIN OUR 23, AND I THINK IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR OUR MEMBERSHIP BASE IF WE STAY WITHIN THE 23 CLASSES THAT WE'RE OFFERING AND JUST REDO THOSE CLASSES VERSUS TRYING TO INCREASE THE CLASSES RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE WERE WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING ANY.
THERE WAS JUST THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD INCREASE CLASSES IN A CLOSER LOOK.
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WE FEEL LIKE THE 2323 IS ENOUGH.WE'LL SATISFY. THERE'S A COMPUTER, I HAVE IT, IT'S THE ONE I HAVE.
SO CURRENTLY WE'RE OFFERING WE'RE NOT REDUCING ANY CLASSES AT THIS TIME.
WE FELT LIKE IT WAS MORE BENEFICIAL TO CREATE A BETTER MEMBER EXPERIENCE WITH HAVE THAT CONSISTENCY AT THE FRONTLINE STAFF VERSUS JUST TRYING TO ADD CLASSES BUT NOT WORK ON THE MEMBER BASE AND WORK WITH NOT ONLY PART TIME RETENTION, BUT RETENTION FOR OUR MEMBERS.
SOUNDS GOOD. BUT WE DO GET MORE CLEANING OUT OF THIS.
BUT IT'S JUST ONE PERSON STILL JUST ONE PERSON.
AND THIS WAS THE BEST RESULT YOU GOT? YEAH. YEAH, WE WENT THROUGH.
WELL, WE DIDN'T DO BECAUSE OF THE COST THAT CAME IN AS WE WENT OUT.
I'VE JUST GOT THREE QUOTES FROM DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND THIS WAS THE LOWEST OF THE THREE.
YEAH. IF Y'ALL HAVE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALL THAT.
IT'S I MEAN, IT WAS TEMPORARY AT THE TIME.
BUT THE WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE SERVICE THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE AT THE MOMENT.
CAN YOU GO INTO THE MEMBER SERVICES ASSISTANT? WHY? WHY THE NEED TO CHANGE THIS JOB TITLE AND OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES CHANGING TO THAT EXTENT AS WELL? THE RESPONSIBILITIES TRULY ARE STAYING THE SAME RIGHT NOW.
IT WAS JUST CHANGING THE TITLE FROM A RECREATION ASSISTANT, WHICH WE FELT REALLY WENT MORE ALONG THE LINES OF THE REC DIVISION VERSUS MEMBER SERVICES BEING THE FRONTLINE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OUR MEMBERS AND THE STAFF.
SO THE TWO POSITIONS THERE REALLY ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS ONE WILL ASSIST WITH STAFF MORE AND THE OTHER ONE WILL ASSIST WITH MEMBERSHIPS AND RENTALS A LITTLE BIT MORE HEAVILY TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A LITTLE MORE OPPORTUNITY.
SO WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT POSITION CARRIED A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES AS FAR AS THEIR DAY TO DAY GOES WITH RESPONDING TO CUSTOMER INQUIRIES, GOING THROUGH AND DOING RENTALS, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT LAKESIDE IS ONLINE.
AND THAT ONE IS KIND OF COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH MORE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WERE.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ARE YOU ALL GOOD WITH THIS? I FEEL LIKE JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF A FLUID SITUATION AS.
YOU'LL WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH IT.
SO THIS IS KIND OF A TIERED APPROACH TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE HOPING FOR A LONG TERM.
SURE. AND I GUESS WITH THAT IN MIND, IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE US FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY NOT.
NOW TIME AS IT PROGRESSES TO SEE.
BECAUSE I'M SURE PHASE TWO COMES WITH ADDITIONAL MONETARY.
REQUEST. SO ANYWAY, WE'D LIKE TO WE'D LIKE TO OBVIOUSLY MAKE SURE THAT.
IT'S MONEY WELL SPENT. THAT'S ALL.
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THAT SO IT CAN LEND ITSELF TO SHOW THE NEED THAT OR THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT BY CONTINUING TO FOCUS HERE.OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M SURE IF Y'ALL GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
I DON'T THINK THEY WILL HEAR MUCH OF THAT.
I ALWAYS HEAR COMPLIMENTS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
ONE THING THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE POINT OUT IS THAT THIS WAS A RETENTION PLAN.
THAT IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE ARE EXPERIENCING A GREAT DEAL OF TURNOVER.
HR HAD REPORTED THAT IT WAS ABOUT 70% TURNOVER AT THE INGLETON RECREATION CENTER.
AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO TRAIN EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THEN HAVE TO RETRAIN NEW INDIVIDUALS, I MEAN, WE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE TAKEN DOWN OUR FRONT DESK PART TIME POSITION ALL YEAR.
WE HAVE MAINTAINED THAT POSTING ONLINE, AND IT IS FOR THAT REASON.
SO WE ARE REALLY AT A POSITION WHERE WE'VE GOT TO BE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND THEN ALSO OBVIOUSLY, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, HAVE SOME SORT OF RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT INVESTMENT.
SO WE'RE NOT CONSTANTLY. HIRING.
WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE RETENTION FOR THE PART TIME FOLKS WHO WERE COMING THROUGH? DO YOU KNOW THAT ANSWER? I DON'T I MEAN, JASON, YOU MIGHT HAVE A BETTER ANSWER THAN I WOULD.
I MEAN, WE'VE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE SEASONAL HIRES FOR SUMMER.
SOMETIMES WE OFTEN DO FOR LIFEGUARDS, BUT.
I MEAN, I'LL TELL YOU THAT WE HAD LESS THAN FIVE PART TIME EMPLOYEES, WHETHER THEY WERE FRONT DESK OR LIFEGUARDS THAT HAD BEEN WITH US FOR LONGER THAN THREE YEARS.
AND WE STARTED WORKING WITH HR ON SOME SORT OF INCENTIVE FOR LONGEVITY PAY.
AND ONCE WE INSTITUTED THAT, I THINK WE HAD ZERO OF THOSE THREE YEAR EMPLOYEES.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF LONGEVITY.
YEAH, I THINK SOME TYPE OF RETENTION PLAN IS EXCELLENT BECAUSE THE TRAINING IT TAKES TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, THE TRAINING IT TAKES TO THAT, IT JUST WIPES AWAY A LOT OF THE PROFIT. AND ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANY ONE FOR MAYBE $0.50 OR A DOLLAR, A COUPLE OF DOLLARS PER HOUR WHEN YOU CAN JUST KEEP THEM THERE.
SO I THINK IT'S ALL A GREAT THING TO RETAIN EMPLOYEES.
OH, SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.
WHAT WAS THEIR MAIN REASON FOR LEAVING OR FOR US TERMINATING THEM? LIKE, TO THE EXTENT YOU CAN SAY THAT, LIKE IN GENERAL CATEGORIES.
I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY BOTH SPEAK TO THAT I AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JASON, BUT THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF RESPONSIBILITY AND TRAINING THAT COMES WITH THIS POSITION, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH MONEY HANDLING, YOU'RE DEALING WITH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
SO THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF TRAINING THAT WENT INTO JUST EVEN SELLING A MEMBERSHIP OR A DAILY PASS, OR HOW YOU CHECK IN SOMEONE DAILY, AND THEN RENTALS AND RESERVATIONS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BALL GAME.
IT'S ALL DIFFERENT, SO HAVING A PART TIME EMPLOYEE THERE FOR MAYBE 15 HOURS A WEEK AND RETAINING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, IT WAS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DO ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.
AND SOMETIMES THAT PUT BALANCES ON PEOPLE'S ACCOUNTS THAT WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE OR JUST A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
I WOULD SAY COMMUNICATION AND MANAGEMENT EVEN.
I WILL SAY WE HAVE A VACANCY CURRENTLY WITH OUR FACILITY OPERATIONS SUPERINTENDENT.
AND SO MAKING SURE THAT WE AS A LEADERSHIP, PARKS AND REC LEADERSHIP TEAM ARE HIRING THE BEST PERSON SUITED FOR THAT POSITION THAT HAS EXPERIENCE IN THESE TYPES OF OPERATIONS IS VITAL.
AND SO SOMETIMES THAT'S DIFFICULT.
RIGHT NOW, MANY OF YOU IN YOUR PLACES OF BUSINESS MAY BE EXPERIENCING THAT.
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I KNOW JASON WAS DOING BOTH JOBS FOR ONLY SIX MONTHS, AND HE'S NOW BACK IN THAT POSITION WHERE HE IS DOING HIS JOB AND MANAGING THIS POSITION.AND SO I'LL BE FRANK WITH YOU, THERE WERE INCIDENCES THAT.
AND SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES, AND ALL OF WHICH WERE AIMING TO ADDRESS WITH FULL TIME PEOPLE THAT WE CAN TRAIN, AND WHETHER THAT'S STAFF DEVELOPMENT, SAFETY TRAINING, POLICY REITERATION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT IN THAT WAY.
DID HE DOES NEED TO PRAISE HIM FOR THE THINGS THAT HE'S DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY? THAT DID THE PART TIME JOB CHANGE OVER TIME? I MEAN, DID IT WHEN IT STARTED OUT? DID THEY HAVE A LOT LESS RESPONSIBILITY THEN MORE ADDED TO IT OVER TIME? OR WAS IT LIKE THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING? I FROM MY TIME HERE, WE HAVE HAD PART TIME STAFF, BUT PROBABLY NOT NEAR AS MANY PROGRAMS OR EVENTS, CERTAINLY NOT AS MANY SENIOR PROGRAMS. AND SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN FOR MEMBERSHIPS, RENTALS, PROGRAMS JUST BECAUSE THE FACILITY OPERATIONS IS NOT INVOLVED IN RECREATION. WE STILL UTILIZE THAT SOFTWARE, AND THEY ARE THE FRONT LINES FOR THAT REGISTRATION.
PROBABLY THE QUANTITY HAS CHANGED.
I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, TAKE LAKESIDE PARK THAT WASN'T IN EXISTENCE BEFORE FEBRUARY, AND NOW WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE DIFFERENT RENTAL OPTIONS THAT THEN YOU CAN'T RESERVE ONLINE JUST BY THE PUSH OF A BUTTON AND A PAYMENT.
WE HAVE TO TALK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON HAVING? WE GO THROUGH THE CONTRACT SO IT TAKES TIME.
AND SO YES, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT FRONT DESK STAFF HAVE EXPERIENCED, BUT WE HAVE HAD EITHER A FACILITY MANAGER OR A CONTINUITY IN OUR PART TIME EMPLOYEES AND IN THEIR POSITIONS IN THE PAST.
SO WE HAD A LONG TERM EMPLOYEE.
I WANT TO SAY SHE WAS WITH THE CITY FOR OVER NINE YEARS AND SHE WAS CONSISTENT.
SHE WORKED THE SAME TIME SLOT EVERY DAY.
AND SO YOU HAD THAT CONTINUITY THERE.
BUT WHEN YOU START LOSING THE RETENTION, IT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
I'M GOING TO PUT MY BUSINESS HAT ON HERE REAL QUICK.
I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO DOWN THIS RABBIT HOLE, BUT OKAY, RETENTION IS A GREAT THING.
IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THAT.
HOWEVER, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO CHASING DOWN SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FIX.
RETENTION OF PART TIME EMPLOYEES.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE EVER GOING TO HAVE CONTROL OVER.
WHAT I WOULD LOOK AT HERE IS LET'S LOOK AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF A TEN YEAR PERSPECTIVE.
IS YOUR RETENTION WORSE OR BETTER THAN IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO OR EIGHT YEARS? BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, THE REC CENTER IS GOING TO BE THE MOST TURNOVER OF OUR OF OUR CITY STAFF.
THAT'S JUST MOSTLY TEENAGERS AND YOUNGER KIDS.
SO WE'VE GOT TO BE FAIR IN HOW WE'RE MEASURING AND ASSESSING OURSELVES HERE.
SO LOOKING AT IT, THE REC CENTER AND SAYING, OH, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE RETENTION BY 30%.
THAT MIGHT BE A FUTILE EFFORT, BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF OF WHERE YOU'RE AT.
WHAT I WOULD ALSO SAY IS, I AGREE WITH YOU, THE COST OF TRAINING IS REALLY HARD TO DO, BUT IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HIGH TURNOVER, THEN MAYBE INSTEAD OF TAKING THAT MONEY AND INVESTING IT TO TRY TO RETAIN KIDS WHO ARE PROBABLY GOING TO LEAVE ANYWAYS, TAKE THAT MONEY AND INVEST IT INTO A TRAINING PROGRAM THAT GETS PEOPLE UP AND MOVING FASTER. SO YOU REDUCE THAT COST.
IT'S IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX OVERNIGHT.
BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY IT'S FAIR TO MEASURE YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF OF RETENTION AND KEEP THE OTHER SEPARATE, BECAUSE WHAT YOU REALLY WANT IS THE RETENTION OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND WHERE YOU DRAW THAT LINE.
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I GUESS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD MEASURE GOING UP, NOT MEASURE GOING DOWN, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT THAT TURNOVER.SURE. AND I WILL NOTE TOO, I BELIEVE WE PUT IT IN YOUR PACKET THAT WHILE WE PRIMARILY SPOKE ON THE PERSONNEL CHANGES, THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE TACKLING IN THERE. AND I THINK THAT WAS ITEMIZED IN YOUR PACKET AS A LIST OF COMPONENTS.
FOR INSTANCE, OUR SOFTWARE HAS ONLINE DEMONSTRATION.
YOU HAVE HOMEWORK HERE TO REVIEW THE DEMO TEST OUT OF THIS MODULE.
WHATEVER IT IS THAT CAN BE DONE WHILE THEY'RE BEING ONBOARDED.
SO YES, WE'RE NOT JUST PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON TRANSITIONING PEOPLE, POSITIONS, TITLES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT IT COMPREHENSIVELY.
SO ONE WOULD KIND OF STEP BACK A STEP HERE.
THE MEMBER SERVICES ASSISTANT TIMES TWO AND THE FACILITY OPERATIONS SUPERINTENDENT.
WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN ON WHO'S AT THE FACILITY? HOW OFTEN? I MEAN, THEY'RE BOTH THOSE POSITIONS OR THOSE THREE POSITIONS.
SO IF YOU'RE THE LET'S SAY YOU'RE THE OPERATION SUPERINTENDENT, WOULD YOU IS THAT LIKE AN 8 TO 5 JOB MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY? I WOULD LOVE TO SAY YES, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SUPERINTENDENT POSITION.
YOU'RE WORKING OVER 40 HOURS A WEEK.
BUT I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE YOUR NORMAL OPERATION HOURS.
I MEAN, YOUR EXPECTED HOURS, RIGHT? RIGHT. WELL, FOR ANY FULL TIME POSITION.
YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT, THREE FULL TIME POSITIONS.
WELL, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT BEGINNING AT 4:30 A.M..
SO I ASSUME THAT SOMEBODY ROLLS OFF AND THE OTHER ONE ROLLS OFF.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THE OVERLAP.
OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT. SO WE WOULD EXPECT AT LEAST TWO FULL TIME EMPLOYEES THERE.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S NOT CHANGING THE WAY WE'RE OPERATING.
IT WILL BE AS IT RELATES TO PART TIME EMPLOYEES.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE PART TIME EMPLOYEES OPENING THE FACILITY.
OKAY. SO NOW YOU WOULD HAVE CONTINUITY AND WHO WHEN WHAT TIME THE FACILITY IS OPENING.
AND CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO BE SEEING SIMILAR FACE.
UNLESS WE'RE ON HOLIDAY THEY'RE ON PTO, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AT WHICH POINT, JUST LIKE WE DO WITH ANY OF OUR OTHER POSITIONS, YOU'RE HAVING PART TIME COME IN OR THE FACILITY OPERATIONS SUPERINTENDENT IS OPENING UP, OR I MEAN, THAT'S WHEN THOSE POSITIONS WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE PROBLEM.
BUT THE BULK WITH THE BULK OF THE DAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST TWO FULL TIME, IF NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF THREE TIME FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AT THE REC CENTER, ASSUMING NO PTO IS ASSUMING HEALTHY. CORRECT? CORRECT. ALL WORKING ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
OKAY, RIGHT. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE OPERATION WORKS.
IT'S ALL SOME OF THE TURNOVER, SOME OF THE PROBLEMS YOU HAVE DAILY.
THERE'S GOING TO BE THE FRONT DESK.
WE GET FULL TIME EMPLOYEE THERE? YOU'VE GOT THAT COVERED NOW.
RIGHT OR SICKNESS? RIGHT. RIGHT.
SORRY. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO GO TO THE MICROPHONE.
[4. Discussion and possible action on Freedom Park Passive Area design and estimate of probable costs.]
YES. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OH GOODNESS.THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE APPROVED LAST FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE ARE ON TASK THREE OF DESIGN DEVELOPMENT OF FREEDOM PARK PASSIVE AREA.
IT'S WORKING AS DESIGNED AND IS INCREDIBLY INNOVATIVE.
SO ONE THING THAT I WANT TO NOTE IS THAT WE HAVE TWO CROSSINGS.
YOU'LL SEE HERE IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION OR IN YOUR PACKET THAT YOU HAVE ONE OVER THE RANCHO DITCH, RANCHO DITCH THAT'S A LITTLE OVER 100FT.
AND THEN THE WEIR STRUCTURE IS A LITTLE OVER 200FT.
SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD ASKED THAT BURDETT, WHO WAS HIRED TO DO THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, TO GO IN WITH A PREFABRICATED BRIDGE, YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR ESTIMATE OF PROBABLE COST THAT, I MEAN, THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTION A LITTLE OVER 600,000 WITH THE PREFAB BRIDGES, HOW THEY'RE QUOTING OUT AND ESTIMATING.
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NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER A MILLION.1.8 I MEAN, QUITE, QUITE A BIT MORE THAN WE WERE ORIGINALLY EXPECTING WITH THAT $600,000 NUMBER.
SO I ASKED BURDETT TO GO BACK AND PROVIDE US SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
WE DID HAVE A BOARDWALK DESIGN IN LAKESIDE PARK ORIGINALLY, WHICH WAS TAKEN OUT, IF YOU ALL RECALL, THAT WAS PROBABLY AROUND $90,000, AND IT WAS JUST FOR PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE THE WATER, BE CLOSER TO THE WATER.
AND IT WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STRUCTURE, SO SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER.
BUT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPE OF MAINTENANCE IN HERE IN YOUR PACKET, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE THREE THE LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH RANGES, THE LOW ARE DOING BOARDWALKS ACROSS RANCHO AND THE WEIR STRUCTURE.
THE MID RANGE IS WITH HAVING THE PREFAB BRIDGE OVER THE WEIR.
NO EXCUSE ME OVER RANCHO DITCH AND HAVING THE BOARDWALK OVER THE WEIR.
AND THEN THE HIGH IS HAVING PREFAB BRIDGES OVER BOTH.
BURDETT RECOMMENDED THAT AND STAFF WOULD AGREE THAT WE SHOULD DO THE PREFAB BRIDGE OVER DITCH, OVER THE DITCH AND A BOARDWALK OVER THE WEIR SPECIFICALLY FOR MAINTENANCE AND ACCESS.
AND CAN YOU GO TO THE PICTURE? AND SO THOSE ARE YOUR RENDERINGS.
AND THAT'S OVER THE DITCH FROM FREEDOM PARK TRAIL.
NO. THAT IS THAT'S THE BOARDWALK.
SO THESE TWO PICTURES OF THE BOARDWALK, RIGHT? OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONFUSED ON BECAUSE I WAS SEEING THIS.
I'M SORRY. AND I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE WEIRD OR THE, THE PREFAB LOOKED LIKE.
AND SO THE PREFAB, IT KEEPS GROWING.
JASON. WE'LL SEE IF IT'S THAT ONE.
IT'S A PRETTY EXTENSIVE BOARDWALK.
AND IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT THE WEIR, YOU WILL SEE EXACTLY WHY.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO AVOID THE PILINGS, HAVE TO AVOID THE CONCRETE WEIR STRUCTURE.
AND THAT WEIR STRUCTURE IS MASSIVE.
IT GOES AROUND THE WEIR STRUCTURE.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT KIND OF EXTENSION OUT.
IT KIND OF GOING PARALLEL TO THE WEIR AND THEN JETTING BACK IN.
IT IS. AND SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
OH EXCUSE ME. YOU ALSO SEE JUST SOME DETAILS ABOUT.
I ASKED THEM TO GIVE US SOME INFORMATION ABOUT, SPECIFICALLY THE STRUCTURES OF BOTH THE PREFAB AND THE BOARDWALK SO THAT YOU KIND OF UNDERSTOOD LONGEVITY, MAINTENANCE. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET LISTED HERE.
WHAT DOES THAT PUT US FINANCIALLY? SO THAT'S GOING TO PUT YOU AT THAT MID RANGE POINT ONE.
THAT WAS THE MIDDLE. THAT WAS THE MID RANGE OPTION RIGHT.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE GO INTO POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
BUT BASED ON OUR DEBT CAPACITY, IF THAT'S WHAT ABC DECIDES TO DO, WE COULD COMPLETE THIS PROJECT FREEDOM ACTIVE AREA IN WHOLE START DESIGN ON ABIGAIL AND AND ALSO PURSUE THE WATER FEATURE STRUCTURE, REHAB AND THE RECREATION CENTER.
IF YOU ALL DECIDE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION WITH THE FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, ONCE YOU TOUCH THE WATER FEATURE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLASTER, THE DECKING, AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ALSO ALL BE DONE WITH RC FUND BALANCE.
FUTURE PROJECTS. I DON'T WANT TO.
I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO GIVE YOU DIRECTION ON THIS WHEN WE STILL NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER STUFF.
ABSOLUTELY. SO ANOTHER OPTION IS.
RIGHT NOW, WHERE IT STANDS IS BURDETT.
CONSULTANTS ARE WAITING ON US FOR DIRECTION, WHICH WE CAN COME BACK TO THEM.
IT'S JUST IT'LL BE A DELAY IN THEIR DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
BUT I DON'T SEE HERE IS HOW MUCH TO JUST PUT THE BRIDGE OVER THE DITCH RIGHT NOW.
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SO IF YOU DID THE THE PREFAB, JUST THAT RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THING THAT HAS COME UP BEFORE IN YEARS PAST, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT RECALL, BUT WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A BRIDGE, YOU'D BE BUILDING IT TO NOWHERE AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE.SO THEN YOU START ASKING QUESTIONS, OKAY, IF WE BUILD A BRIDGE, WHAT'S OUR ADA ACCESSIBLE ROUTE AFTER THEY CROSS THE BRIDGE, ARE WE BUILDING A PATHWAY? IF WE ARE, HOW IS IT GOING TO GO OVER THE WEIR STRUCTURE.
DOES IT HAVE TO. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO.
YOU CAN DO AN OUT AND BACK AND AROUND.
YOU CAN MAKE A LITTLE CIRCLE AT THE END.
IT JUST DOES A CIRCLE AT THE END.
I MEAN, IT ALWAYS COULD BE DONE IN PHASES TO START WITH THAT AND THEN EVENTUALLY ADD ABSOLUTELY.
SO I GUESS I NEED, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NUMBER, JUST THAT BY ITSELF.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS.
DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO BE DONE NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DEBT SERVICE CAPACITY IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AS WELL.
YEAH. SO I MEAN, AND WE'VE KIND OF DONE THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF BEEN THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR ANGLETON IS.
YEAH. SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WE STAFF DOES HAVE DIRECTION TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER OPTION.
AND SO THIS ITEM WILL BE TABLED UNTIL A FUTURE MEETING WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IS THAT GOOD WITH EVERYONE ELSE? I'M FINE. TATUM WAS GREAT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO CONSIDER WITH BURDETT BEFORE WE COME BACK? NO. WELL, THAT'S BASICALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BOTH OPTIONS.
BOTH THE PREFAB AND JUST A WOODEN OVER THE DITCH.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M JUST SAYING.
TO. IF WE WERE LOOKING JUST CENTRALLY AT THE.
OH, I SEE SO BOTH A PREFAB AND A WOODEN BRIDGE, BUT BOTH WITH A DEAD END OVERLOOK.
I WOULD JUST GIVE US. I JUST I JUST WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, PLAY WITH NUMBERS.
I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS DRAWING HERE.
ARE THERE OTHER TREES KIND OF SIMILAR OUT THERE? I MEAN, I KNOW FROM THE ROADWAY IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE ON 523.
HONESTLY, IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ON SITE, CALL ME.
I'LL TAKE YOU OUT THERE. IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT.
THERE'S TREE CANOPIES AND THE MAINTENANCE BERM THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
IF YOU PUT IN DIG OR EVEN CONCRETE TEN FOOT WIDE TRAIL OR EVEN EIGHT, WHATEVER, WE DECIDE AND YOU'VE GOT TREE CANOPY ALL THE WAY AROUND. IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
AND WHEN WE DO GET A HEAVY RAIN, I MEAN THAT IT FILLS UP.
GOOD. IT'S ALSO A GOOD SOURCE OF DRAINAGE.
[5. Conduct a public hearing regarding designation of projects for the Angleton Better Living Corporation for fiscal year 2023-2024.]
MOVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. A SECOND.I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CALL IT. OKAY.
IS YOUR INTENTION OF US CLOSING THIS PUBLIC HEARING NOW, OR DID YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ANYTHING? THE ONLY THING THAT I'LL SAY IS THAT WE.
AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE DID HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING.
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WE CAN HAVE AS MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS AS WE WOULD LIKE ON OUR PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO DO, TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINION ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE PURSUING.SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE SECOND ONE.
IF WE DO ANY KIND OF PARK DESIGN, IT'S A MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
AND SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DECIDE TO PURSUE WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS OR EVEN ISSUANCE, IT WILL TRIGGER SOME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN.
OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING A SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO COMMENT ON? DO YOU WANT TO START OR.
YOU BASICALLY SAID WHAT YOU NEEDED TO SAY.
SO WE HAVE ALL THESE ITEMS HERE.
IT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED.
I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY. ARE WE NOW ON AGENDA ITEM SIX? UM, NO.
STOP MY SCREEN. DO YOU WANT TO? I GUESS ITEM FIVE WAS JUST TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.
[6. Discussion and possible action on designation of projects for the Angleton Better Living Corporation for fiscal year 2023-2024.]
YES. SO THIS IS IDENTICAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COLOR CODING AND SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY FROM STAFF FOR AGENDA ITEM SIX.LAST MEETING. YOU ALL ASKED US TO COME BACK WITH PROJECTS THAT WE HAD INCLUDED AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING, MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ON SOME PROJECTS THAT WE WERE WE HAD SOME INFORMATION TRICKLING IN, SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO BG SOCCER COMPLEX FIELD DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING.
SO I WILL JUST START AT THE TOP UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO ITEM A AND B ARE A, B AND D, EXCUSE ME, ARE ITEMS THAT YOU COMMITTED LAST FISCAL YEAR THAT ARE NOT COMPLETE BUT ARE COMMITTED FUNDS.
SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE STILL HAVE YET TO DEDICATE TO THESE PROJECTS THIS FISCAL YEAR.
ITEM C WAS ELIMINATED BECAUSE WE WERE NOT AWARDED THE GRANT FOR THE NON INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT ITEMS. E F.
HOW DID I DESIGNATE THESE? EXCUSE ME. GREEN ARE UNBUDGETED ITEMS THAT ARE IMMEDIATE NEEDS.
OKAY, SO IF YOU LOOK AT E F Q, DOUBLE A, DOUBLE B, DOUBLE C, THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT YOU ALL MENTIONED AS PROJECT PRIORITIES ON APRIL 10TH AND APRIL 17TH RESPECTIVELY.
AND WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE CIP PROJECTS.
AND SO WE TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE FOR YOU TO KEEP IN MIND.
LAST MEETING I WILL NOTE ON DOUBLE C, YOU ALL CONSIDERED MAYBE PURSUING ONLY PORTIONS OF FREEDOM PARK ACTIVE ZONE. I DID INCLUDE THE FULL AMOUNT JUST FOR FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY.
IF YOU ALL WANT TO SCALE THAT DOWN, TOTALLY UP TO YOU.
IT'S ITEMIZED ON WHAT COSTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTIVE RECREATION AREA.
SO THAT'S JUST THERE AS A RESOURCE FOR YOU.
IF YOU WANTED TO SCALE THAT NUMBER DOWN, IF YOU'RE EVEN CONSIDERING IT AS A PROJECT.
SO WHEN WE LOCATE THAT PAGE NUMBER, WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.
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AND THE ITEMS IN YELLOW ARE IMMEDIATE NEEDS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.SO WE HAVE A WATER WELL PUMP AT BOOGIE PARK SOCCER COMPLEX THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
YES IT DOES. WE HAD A REQUEST FOR A MOWER AND TRAILER AND A SKID STEER LEASE FOR PARK OPERATIONS.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE NATATORIUM COMPONENTS, WHICH WE HAVE LISTED SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
SO THAT IS ALL INCLUDED THE BEYOND BLUE POOLS.
I WILL SAY BASED ON THE COMPONENT THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US, IT'S LESS.
THEN IT'S A, IT'S A IT'S OFFERING LESS INTERACTIVE COMPONENTS THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY EXISTING.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S FAIRLY INTERACTIVE.
A. A HUGE OVERHAUL OPTION, IF YOU WILL.
SO THOSE ARE THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND THEN OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE INCLUDED, OF COURSE, ARE THE NATATORIUM, DECK, POOL, PLASTER.
THE DECK IS AN ISSUE THAT REALLY IS A CONCERN FOR THE RECREATION CENTER.
WE WOULD TRY TO TACKLE THAT WITH A FUND BALANCE.
IF IT WASN'T APPROVED AS A PROJECT IN A CONTINGENCY.
OUR CONTROL SYSTEM, WE'RE TRAINED TO WORK THAT OUT.
THAT IS ITEM N, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT TO WHERE WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET AND BG CULVERT O AND P AND COMPLEX ROAD REHAB.
WE'RE REALLY PUTTING THOSE OFF UNTIL WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE FIELD DRAINAGE ISSUES.
SO WE WANT TO BE SMART WITH HOW WE ATTACK THESE PROJECTS.
WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE BEFORE WE INSTALL, REINSTALL THE ROAD THAT WAS THERE, OR AS AN ALTERNATIVE, DON'T INSTALL A ROAD AND REALIGN THE CULVERTS TO WHERE THEY LINE UP WITH THE NORTH AND SOUTH PARKING LOT AT THE COMPLEX.
Q THE FIELD GRADING THAT WAS A PROPOSAL PROVIDED BY HDR BASED ON WHAT THEY BELIEVE THE PROJECTED COSTS WILL BE, INCLUDING THEIR SCOPE OF WORK, COMPLETING THAT SCOPE OF WORK TO PUT IT OUT FOR BID, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION RC MASTER PLAN.
I DID FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ALL AFTER OUR LAST MEETING.
SO WHILE WE ARE ON THE BOOKS THIS FISCAL YEAR WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO DO AN UPDATE FOR OUR MASTER STRATEGIC PLAN, WE'VE ALSO BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AS A WHOLE AND DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE CAN WE APPROACH A PRO FORMA OR ARE WE OFFERING THE SERVICES PEOPLE WANT TO PAY FOR? HOW ARE WE HELPING PAY FOR OUR OPERATIONAL COSTS? WHAT DOES IT NEED TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE? DO WE NEED TO EXPAND? DO WE NEED TO REBUILD ALL OF THOSE THINGS? SO WE HAVE AN RC MASTER PLAN IN HERE, SECO GRANT MATCHING FUNDS.
SO WE HAVE LIGHTING ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.
WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS AND CONVERT TO LED.
WE HAVE APPLIED FOR A $50,000 GRANT WITH SECO.
IT REQUIRES A MATCHING PORTION.
SO WE WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE BUDGETED.
IF IT CANNOT BE, WE'LL TRY TO FIND IT IN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET IF WE ARE AWARDED TO PURSUE THAT.
WE SUBMITTED TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS TO ADDRESS THE ENTIRE FACILITY.
WE COULD BE AWARDED BOTH, AND IF WE WERE, THEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE A MATCHING PORTION FOR BOTH.
AGAIN, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER LIGHTING.
THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE PURSUED.
WE ARE ALSO NEEDING ADDITIONAL SERVER AND DATA STORAGE FOR CAMERAS.
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BUT JASON MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THAT.WE DO. WE TALKED LAST YEAR ABOUT TACKLING AREAS OF THE RECREATION CENTER ONE AT A TIME.
SO IF WE CAN ADDRESS ALL OF THE AEROBICS AREA, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR.
SO THAT IS IN HERE X WE'VE DELETED.
BUT WE WERE NOT AWARDED THAT GRANT.
THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR SERVICE AGREEMENT TO CHANGE OUT ALL OF THE SPORTS LIGHTING TO LED.
IF WE DID AN OUTRIGHT PURCHASE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT AROUND $400,000.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER.
AND THEN Z IS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE CATCHALLS.
IF YOU GUYS FIND THAT SOMETHING THAT ISN'T INCLUDED IN HERE AND YOU WANT TO BE INCLUDED HERE LATER ON DOWN THE LINE, THAT COULD BE APPROVED WITH THE MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE'VE HAD. FOR INSTANCE, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF BATES SHADE COVERINGS OVER BLEACHERS THAT COULD STILL FALL IN THE Z CATEGORY.
WE THEN START GETTING INTO OUR DOUBLE A, DOUBLE B, DOUBLE C, DOUBLE D, DOUBLE E, AND THOSE ARE ALL CIP RELATED ITEMS THAT ARE IN OUR MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AGAIN, THOSE NUMBERS THAT ARE LISTED THERE ARE BASED ON THE LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH OPTIONS.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH ADDITIONAL ONES.
THAT'S THE FULL SCOPE. AND WHAT JASON HAS UP HERE IS IT HELPS TO ITEMIZE.
WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON? JASON? 177 177 IT HELPS BREAK DOWN THE COSTS IN THAT AREA.
SO AT THE LAST MEETING YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING ONLY THE FIELD.
AND SO IF YOU TAKE OUT THE VEGETATION, THE BERMING, THE PLAZA, THE WALKWAYS, THE STORAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU COULD REALLY REDUCE THAT COST.
BUT BE MINDFUL OF WHAT THE ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE HAS ASKED FOR PREVIOUSLY.
SO EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE PLAZA, IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING.
SO JUST BE MINDFUL WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER.
YEAH. MEGAN, I GUESS FOR CLARITY, FOR THE THE FIELD, THAT'S THE NEW FIELD THAT'S COMING.
IS THAT THAT FOUR PLEX JUST SOUTH.
AND ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK ON THAT PAGE.
JASON CAN YOU STAND UP AND JUST POINT TO THEM THE SHADED OUT AREAS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED AREA THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE FREEDOM PLAYGROUND, IF YOU'LL POINT THAT OUT.
THANK YOU. JUST NORTH OF THAT IS AN OPEN FIELD IN BLUE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE PASSIVE AREA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IS FAR NORTH.
THE PURPLE IS A TRAIL SYSTEM PROPOSED.
IT'S JUST A WALKING PATH THAT'S BEHIND RANCHO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE, I GUESS FIRST DOING THE FREEDOM PARK AND WE'RE EXPANDING AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE BALL FIELD TO BE A BIGGER BALL FIELD FOR LARGER KIDS.
SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN REALLY GOTTEN INTO THAT SECTION, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD.
SO SO WHAT'S GOING ON NOW WOULD NOT IMPACT THAT WHATSOEVER IF WE HAD PLANS FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND ONE OTHER THOUGHT IN THE BLUE AREA THERE MAY YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER OR TALK WITH THEM.
THE LEAK ABOUT TWO VERY SMALL FIELDS.
RIGHT. SO THAT BLUE WALLET, YOU WILL NEED A LOT OF SPACE BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST BE FOR.
YEAH. I'M THINKING LIKE LONG TERM.
OH FOR SURE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT'S DESIGNATED.
IF YOU ZOOM IN YOU CAN SEE THEM.
YOU JUST CAN'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S FOCUSED ON THE ACTIVE AREA.
IT'S GOING TO BE MAYBE INSUFFICIENT.
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BUT SINCE YOU ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.SO GREAT. NO NEED TO BELABOR THAT.
CAN WE PICK THIS ONE UP WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? SURE, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE BUDGET, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO COME FROM THE CIP, WHICH IS OUR NUMBER SEVEN, BUT IT MAY ALSO BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO SEVEN, IT MAY BE BENEFICIAL TO UNDERSTAND WHERE BOARD OF DIRECTORS STANDS ON THE PROJECT. SO WITH THE LAST TWO ITEMS, TRAILS MASTER PLAN WAS AN ITEM ON THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THEN STICKY MASTER PLAN ALSO.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ALL TO DISCUSS.
GO FOR IT. GIVE IT TO ANYBODY.
WHAT IN HERE GETS ANY OF THE CITIZENS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW? WE'VE GOT MOWERS, TRAILERS.
WE'VE GOT THE NATATORIUM IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MAINTENANCE STUFF IN HERE.
WE EVEN GOT AN IT SERVER IN HERE.
UM. TIM, I THINK THAT WATER WELL PUMP HAS TO BE DONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED OUT OF A PLC.
IT COULD THAT NEEDS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME FROM HERE.
BUT IT IS A NECESSITY BECAUSE IT'S STOPPING ACTIVITY OUT AT THE SOCCER COMPLEX.
I FEEL LIKE THE MOWER, THE TRAILER, THE SKID STEER.
I SEE YOU HAVE PROPOSED GENERAL FUND IN THERE.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO. CONFUSE IT HERE, BUT THE THINGS THAT I THINK MAKE THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK.
AS MUCH AS I HATE TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE REC CENTER AT TIMES.
IT. IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO COME THERE, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE.
AND SOME OF THESE ARE LOW HANGING FRUIT.
IT'S, IN MY OPINION, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN THE CONTINGENCY LINE? THE BUDGET? 261,296.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALREADY HAVE ABOUT 105 COMMITTED, I WILL SAY, AND YES.
SO KEEP IN MIND YOU HAVE COMMITTED PROJECTS BUT ALSO FUND BALANCE.
RIGHT? HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT DEBT ISSUANCE, WHEN WE TALK TO JOE MORROW ABOUT WHAT WE HAD AVAILABLE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ABC CONTINGENCY, WHICH IS THAT NUMBER THAT WE JUST SAID, KEEP IN MIND, THOSE DOLLARS THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND LAST YEAR FOR THESE PROJECTS ARE IN SAVINGS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND IT.
SO YES, WE CAN STILL HIT THAT FUND BALANCE OR THIS CONTINGENCY ITEM, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO HIT THE FUND BALANCE EXCESSIVELY BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN'T PAY YOUR DEBT ISSUANCE PAYMENT.
SO IF WE DECIDE TO GO OUT FOR DEBT, IN MY OPINION WE WORK BACKWARDS.
FIND OUT THE ITEMS YOU WANT TO GO OUT TO DEBT FOR.
IF ANYTHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED OFF ON THAT.
THEN WE COME BACK TO THE FUND BALANCE KNOWING THERE'S A NUMBER WE CAN'T.
THERE'S A THRESHOLD WE CAN'T SURPASS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE ANY PROBLEMS FOR THE DEBT.
IF YOU GO OUT FOR DEBT, THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD SAY SO.
I KNOW IT'S PRESENTED LIKE THIS.
YOU KNOW, WHY IS IT AT AT THE SOCCER FIELD THAT THEY'RE THEY HAVE THE ADHD ISSUE ON THE SIDEWALK WHERE THAT DOOR OPENS AND BLOCKS THE SIDEWALK. AND THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THAT POWER BOX MOVED.
AND THAT'S. SEEMS TO ME TO BE AN ADA THING.
IT MAY BE ON THE ADA PLAN, BUT THE ADA PLAN IS A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND IT'S RANKED IN PRIORITY ORDER.
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AND SO WE ARE GOING YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO, YEAR 3 OR 4 YEAR FIVE.SO WHILE I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER FOR THAT, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THERE ARE OTHER HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS THAT ARE TAKING PRECEDENCE.
BUT WHEN WE WERE GIVEN ALL OF THOSE ACTION ITEMS, WE WERE TRYING TO SPREAD IT AROUND ALL THE PARKS SO THAT WE WEREN'T JUST ADDRESSING MASTER, DID WE PUT THE LIGHTING? DID WE PUT THE LIGHTING IN HERE FOR THE SOCCER FIELD ON THIS LIST? WE DO NOT HAVE IT ON THIS LIST.
THAT I RECALL. I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT AT ONE.
I THOUGHT WE SAID WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT MAYBE ABOUT THREE MEETINGS AGO.
SO AND WHAT WE HAVE FROM MOSCOW AND THERE'S OTHER VENDORS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
MOSCOW'S HISTORICALLY MORE EXPENSIVE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING NO.
I WILL TELL STUART. THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO SAY, WELL, THIS IS OVER A YEAR AGO 250 256 WAS OUR QUOTE FROM MOSCOW THAT AROUND THAT IS THAT FOR THE LIGHTS ON THE FAR BACK CORNER.
THEY USE THE SAME POLES OR YOU HAVE TO ERECT MORE POLES.
WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT QUOTE.
I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T REUSE.
I MEAN, I WAS LOOKING AT THE ONE SET THE OTHER DAY.
I WAS JUST OUT THERE STUDYING KIND OF CURIOSITY, AND THERE WERE LIGHTS GOING BOTH EAST AND WEST.
RIGHT. SO I DON'T AND I THINK THAT LAST SET THEY ONLY FACED TO THE EAST.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE HAD IT RIGHT, WE CAN GET UPDATED.
AND I DO HAVE NOTES IN HERE FROM WHAT WAS LISTED AS A PRIORITY.
SO MEGAN DO THAT SAME TIME ABOUT THE SOCCER COMPLEX.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE SHADES FOR THE THE SOFTBALL FIELDS OVER AT BATES PARK.
WE DID. AND THAT WAS A RECENT AD, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU ALL BECAUSE IT WAS A RECENT AD.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO THAT WAS ADDED ON TO THE THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY MENTIONED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO THE TABLE ALSO.
THAT WAS AN AD AS OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO. YEAH, LIKE TRAVIS SAID ABOUT WALKING BACKWARDS.
I'M COOL WITH THAT. THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, IS LIKE DURING OUR LAST MEETING, I THINK WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON MAINTENANCE VERSUS OTHER ITEMS, AND I THINK WE DECIDED THAT MAINTENANCE IS LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A REC CENTER, THAT SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING.
SO EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE WORKING TO PAR OR BEYOND THAT ACTUALLY.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE THAT'S IN YELLOW OR SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON, I'M ALL FOR PRIORITIZING WITH MAINTENANCE BEING THE OBJECTIVE AND THEN JUST MAKING SURE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ITEM K, THOSE ARE OPTIONS, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S NOT MAINTENANCE.
NO. YEAH. BUT I MEAN LIKE THE FIVE BULLET POINTS.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S YOUR LEASE OPTION LIKE BEYOND BLUE POOLS THE 88.
THAT IS A LESSER COMPONENT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY.
AND SO THAT COMPONENT, ARE YOU WORKING TO THAT PAGE? OKAY. PERFECT. WE'LL GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF THAT.
BUT AND THEN TO THE LONE STAR RECREATION IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT VENDOR, DIFFERENT APPLICATION.
SO I GUESS TONIGHT WE'RE NOT REALLY TRYING TO PRIORITIZE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I'M ON THE MOWER TRAILER, SKID STEER, WATER.
I'M NOT SURE WE SHOULD COME OUT OF OUR FUND HERE, BUT.
YEAH. UM, WE NEED TO CHECK THOSE BOXES BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE YELLOW.
WE GOT TO. I THINK WE GOT TO ADDRESS THE NATATORIUM COMPONENT.
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UM, I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A HIGHER END VERSION.THAT MAY HAVE TO COME AFTER OUT OF DEBT SERVICES.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING EARLIER WE MAY HAVE TO GO IN THE INVERSE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FIRST THERE AND THEN COME BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT IF WE HAVE ANY WIGGLE ROOM STILL LEFT IN THE.
THE THING WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT I THINK IT WAS NUMBER FOUR, BUT THE FREEDOM PART PASSIVE AREA TRYING TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE WOULD BE WITH A BRIDGE.
WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
AGAIN, THAT MAY BE BECAUSE OF THE COST ESPECIALLY.
I MEAN, I'M JUST RANDOMLY GUESSING HERE.
WE'RE TALKING EASILY SIX FIGURES AND PROBABLY WELL INTO HALF $1 MILLION.
AGAIN, PROBABLY SOMETHING TO LOOK TOWARDS.
SAME THING WITH ABIGAIL ARIAS PARK.
SEEMS A LITTLE HIGH OF ME, BUT IT MAY BE.
YES. AND WE CUT BACK ON THE COMMUNITY AMENITIES.
RIGHT. AND SO I'M JUST AND AND Y'ALL HAVE DONE AND I STILL LOVE IT.
AND SO AGAIN RIGHT I TOTALLY AGREE.
WE WORK WITHIN THE PARAMETERS WE'RE GIVEN.
BUT I DO THINK THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW I DON'T WANT TO I MEAN I'M GOING TO THROW A NUMBER OUT HERE LESS THAN HALF THAT, YOU KNOW, 2.5 OR SOMETHING AROUND THERE WHERE AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING MORE TOWARDS THE DEBT SERVICES BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THAT IN FUND BALANCE.
HOW ABOUT I READ THAT AGENDA ITEM.
WE JUST START TALKING ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. I MEAN, I MEAN, I'M I'M TRYING TO DO DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, I'LL DO IT THE WAY YOU WANT TO DO IT.
THAT'S FINE. NO, NO THAT'S FINE.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DO LEAN TOWARDS FIXING THE NATATORIUM.
GOOD. PUT DUCT TAPE ON ANYTHING.
NO, NO I MEAN I THINK I KNOW JOHN WASN'T HERE THE LAST WEEK.
IS THAT A PROJECT AND THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TODAY SO WE CAN EXPEDITE THAT MATTER IS HOPEFULLY TO MAY OR JUNE, WE CAN START GETTING THAT PROJECT BECAUSE SOMEONE WILL BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT.
IT TAKES TIME TO GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE, THAT'S ALL.
SO UNDER THE TIMELINE OF CHRIS WHITAKER.
I REMEMBER HIM WE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SET IT UP TO WHERE AND Y'ALL TELL US IF WE CAN OR CAN'T.
YOU HAVE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WHEN THE MONEY, THE CHECK COMES, WE'RE READY TO BREAK GROUND, SO TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW? WELL, CERTAINLY WE CAN KNOW THINGS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTIBLE OR PASSABLE.
WE CAN GO GET QUOTES ON KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND BOND FOR THINGS.
SO ON THE STUFF LIKE PARK DESIGN AND ALL THAT, I MEAN, IT'S.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING REALISTIC WITH US.
[7. Discussion and possible action on debt issuance for designated projects for the Angleton Better Living Corporation for fiscal year 2023-2024.]
SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WORKING BACKWARDS, I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.UM, ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO MENTION, I BELIEVE JOE TALKED ABOUT FOR A DEBT THAT WE COULD GO OUT IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, I THINK IT WAS GENERAL FUND. THAT WAS THE SECOND OR THIRD.
YOU WAIT. AND THIS THE NATATORIUM COMPONENT BE INCLUDED ON THAT DEBT SERVICE.
WE ARE NOT GETTING THAT COMPONENT OUT BY NEXT SUMMER.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
BUT WE ONLY HAVE 200 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND CONTINGENCY.
RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHY I'M CLARIFYING.
I THINK ABC ISSUANCE, WE COULD BE PREPARED BY FIRST QUARTER AND THAT COULD HELP US SIGNIFICANTLY.
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I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CONFUSING IT WITH THE GENERAL FUND DEBT SERVICE.IT. SO DO YOU WANT? SO HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING RIGHT NOW ON THE DEBT ISSUANCE? 4 MILLION. IS THAT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT? I THINK JOE SAID YOUR MAX IS 4.5.
I WOULD RECOMMEND BEING MORE CONSERVATIVE.
WELL, YOU'RE LESS THAN 4 OR 4.
I WOULD SAY FOUR, FOUR, I THINK I LIKE FOUR, EVEN JUST GIVING YOU THAT EXTRA 500,000 OF CONTINGENT WIGGLE ROOM, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR SALES TAX IS GOING TO BE THIS YEAR.
AND EVERY YEAR IS AN ESTIMATE.
LIKE WE WERE TALKING EARLIER, WE ESTIMATE EIGHT.
WE CAME IN A LITTLE OVER SEVEN.
SO I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT CELL TAXES.
SAME. SO WE GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE CUSHION DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
THINGS ARE GETTING A LITTLE TIGHTER FOR SOME PEOPLE.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SO I WOULD, I WOULD THINK FOR WOULD BE THE NUMBER WE SHOULD THE, THE CONSTRUCT WE SHOULD WORK THROUGH.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF TAKING OUT DEBT.
I DON'T LIKE THAT MYSELF, BUT.
OKAY. OH, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? GENERALLY SPEAKING.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING FOR ME IS A PLC WAS SET UP TO COLLECT.
THEN, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, AND TO UTILIZE IT.
UM, THROUGH SALES TAX, THROUGH SALES TAX.
AND THE ONE THING THAT IN MY MIND IS DIFFERENT IS SALES TAX IS A CHOICE YOU MAKE.
YOU WENT OUT AND PURCHASED IT.
WE'RE NOT GOING OUT AND SETTING NEW PROPERTY VALUES OR RAISING RATES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WAS IT 90. SOMEBODY VOTED ON IT AND DECIDED THIS IS HOW WE WOULD FUND WHAT WAS IT 2000 EARLY 2000.
2000 OKAY. SO JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, YEAH, I MEAN I GET THAT ON THE OTHER HAND. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
GO AHEAD. SO, YOU KNOW, JOHN, SO YEARS PAST, HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT BACK IN THE DAY? DID WE JUST GO AHEAD AND JUST GO FOR THE DEAD OR NOT? WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT. WE'VE ALWAYS WE'VE ALWAYS FUNDED ALL OF OUR MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS THROUGH DEBT SERVICE.
WE WERE VERY LIMITED BECAUSE WHEN ABC WAS FIRST CREATED, WE WENT THROUGH A PLETHORA OF DEBT ISSUANCE, FROM THE DICKEY PARK EXPANSION TO THE REC CENTER TO FREEDOM PARK.
ALL THAT WAS DONE VERY QUICKLY.
SO ABC WAS KIND OF GOBBLED UP PRETTY MUCH ON THEIR BUDGET FROM ALL THOSE DEBT ISSUANCES.
THAT'S ALSO HOW WE DID LAKESIDE A FEW YEARS AGO.
SO HOW WAS THAT DEBT FUNDED? WAS THAT A CEO? IT'S A CEO.
THE CEO BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A THAT'S FOR ME SALES TAX.
THAT'S WHY I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PARTICULAR DEBT BECAUSE IT'S THROUGH A CEO.
VOTER APPROVAL. I WOULD PREFER WE CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND IF THAT ALL IS ALL IT TAKES, AND THEN A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE OR ANNOUNCEMENT, I THINK THE VOTERS, PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP AND REGULARLY VOTE FOR US SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN THAT PIECE BEYOND JUST A NOTICE.
AND OR TECHNICALLY THEY DON'T VOTE FOR US, BUT THEY VOTE FOR YOU TOO.
BUT BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE APPOINTED TO REPRESENT THEM AS WELL.
RIGHT. AND SO THE BOARD'S CHARGE PER SE IS TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE, OF THE CITIZENS MONEY, AND IT'S APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL.
I CAN SEE YOUR POINT OF GOING AND DOING A VOTER APPROVAL, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A BOND.
IT'S A IT'S A CO OF AGAINST YOUR SALES TAX DOLLARS.
THAT'S WHAT THE VOTERS VOTED FOR WHEN THEY SET UP THE DLC.
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WELL, THEY VOTED FOR THE SALES TAX PIECE.DID THEY VOTE? YES? RIGHT. BUT THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY VOTE FOR US TO TAKE MORE THAN THAT.
WE'RE NOT TAKING MORE THAN THAT.
WE'RE ONLY CHARGING THE SAME SALES TAX.
WE'RE STILL TAKING WE'RE OPERATING STILL WITHIN THAT SALES TAX AMOUNT.
WE'RE JUST PAYING THE DEBT SERVICE ON IT.
AND WE HAVE DEBT SERVICE ROLLING OFF EVERY YEAR ALMOST.
NEXT YEAR, I THINK TWO MORE OR ONE MORE FALLS OFF.
AND. WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN, HERE'S A QUESTION FOR YOU.
I MEAN, JUST BY ISSUING A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION, WE'RE NOT PASSING ANY RAISING ANY TAX.
PERCENTAGE OR OTHERWISE. CORRECT OR NOT.
IT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAXED THE SAME WHETHER WE CHOOSE TO UTILIZE IT.
AND NOW THAT I GUESS WHAT, I WASN'T THERE, JOHN SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE DOCTOR JACKSON KNOWS THIS, BUT I GUESS WE HAD ALREADY COMMITTED AND OBLIGATED OURSELVES TO OTHER VENTURES SUCH AS, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, DICKEY PARK AND OTHER THINGS.
I MEAN, THESE ARE LARGE TICKET ITEMS. WE JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER ANALOGY, NICKEL AND DIME, YOU KNOW, $200,000 HERE AND 200,000.
IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO GET IT DONE.
I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN DO IT ANY OTHER WAY.
MENTION IS IT THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION AND BYLAWS OF THE ABLC SPECIFIED THAT THE THIS CORPORATION WAS DEVELOPED FOR PARKS, RECREATION AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND AND THAT'S AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DO WANT TO GET INTO IS THE DRAINAGE AS WELL.
DRAINAGE AS WELL. BUT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL IDEA OF OF ISSUING DEBT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
SO. THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL EVER GET SOME OF THESE BIGGER ITEMS DONE IS THROUGH A DEBT ISSUANCE.
OTHERWISE, WE'LL WE'LL JUST DO MAINTENANCE.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE'LL DO.
TRUST ME, I'M A FISCAL HAWK AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ELSE, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE PROPERTY TAXES RAISED.
THIS IS JUST OFF OF YOUR SALES TAX.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT FOR THE LONGEST TIME, I ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH AS WELL.
AND IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SALES TAX PORTION AND THE PROPERTY TAX PORTION, AND HOW ABLC WAS FUNDED, AND HOW IT WAS BEING BROKEN OUT TO MAKE UP THE THE OPERATING BUDGET AS WELL, WHICH MS..
ROGERS AND I USED TO FIGHT OVER ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE OF HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO PUT INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET OF THE PARK SYSTEM VERSUS HOW MUCH YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BUILD A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF AND THEN EXPECT THE GENERAL FUND TO THE PROPERTY TAX SIDE TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
I ALWAYS HAD A BIG ISSUE WITH THAT.
SO WE'VE WE'VE WORKED WITHIN THAT CONSTRUCT AND WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WHAT IS IT, 20%? NO, I THINK THE LOWEST WE DECIDED TO GO WAS 25, 25, 25%.
THAT GETS THAT ABLC HAS TO FUND ON THE SIDE.
SO YEAH. AND THAT'S STILL DOING ALL THE THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.
THOSE WERE SOME HOT TOPICS BACK THEN.
BUT I DEFINITELY RESPECT YOUR POSITION ON IT.
SO TO THE GROUP, WE HAVE BEFORE US THE DISCUSSION ON DEBT ISSUANCE AND WHAT ITEMS YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE IN THAT IF WE WERE TO GO OUT FOR IT.
SO. I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, AND THAT IS I THINK THE NATATORIUM HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
NUMBER ONE. IT'S IT'S YOU'VE STARTED IT ALL OFF WITH.
WHERE DO PEOPLE EXPECT AND WHAT DO PEOPLE USE? THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE NATATORIUM I'VE SEEN LARGE CROWDS IN THE SUMMERTIME.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IF WE HAD A FULLY FUNCTIONAL APPARATUSES THAT IT WOULD IT WOULD DRAW MORE.
AND SO I GUESS THEN THE THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES WHAT VALUE, YOU KNOW.
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I'M REALLY INDIFFERENT. I MEAN, I WOULD I WOULD PROBABLY PUT MYSELF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE VORTEX, PROBABLY THE MIDDLE THREE.WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON WHAT WOULD BE A BIG ENOUGH DRAW? SO I WOULD AGREE TO THAT.
THE BEYOND BLUE POOLS IS KIND OF COMPARABLE TO WHAT YOU HAVE.
IT DOESN'T REALLY ADD ANY VALUE TO IT, ACTUALLY.
THE WAY THAT I HAVE DESIGNED IS PROBABLY ALMOST A REPLACEMENT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE, OR A LITTLE BIT LESS IN MY OPINION.
THERE'S THERE'S A IT'S A LIKE FOR LIKE BUT THE MAKEUP OF WHAT YOU GET DOES NOT ADD COMPONENTS.
IT BASICALLY GIVES YOU A SLIDE.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT VERSUS THE OTHER ONES.
VORTEX HAS A GREAT OFFERING AND OFFERS A FEW OTHER AMENITIES, INTERACTIVE PIECES THAT GO WITH THAT.
AND SAME THING WITH THE EVEN THE LOW LEVEL AS FAR AS LONE STAR GOES.
SO I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, THAT THOSE TWO WOULD BE GOOD.
THE OTHER ONE JUST IT WOULDN'T ADD VALUE TO IT, IT WOULD JUST SIMPLY BE REPLACING.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MY FIRST PRIORITY.
MY. MY SECOND ONE WOULD PROBABLY BE.
I FEEL LIKE. I HEAR ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
THAT AGE GROUP IN ANGLETON, TEXAS, THEY LITERALLY TAKE EVERY KID IN ANGLETON HAS TO GO OUTSIDE OF ANGLETON, PLAY THEIR HOME GAMES IN DANBURY OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS AN AN.
IT'S NOT EVEN UP. I MEAN, IT'S LITERALLY SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
SO WE'VE NEVER GONE BACK AND ADDRESSED THIS.
IT'S JUST BEEN SITTING THERE, OPEN LAND, WAITING FOR THIS.
WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE HEADED THIS WAY, IS THERE ANY DEDICATED PARKLAND IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TOWARDS BASEBALL FIELDS? NO. WHAT ABOUT SOCCER? THEY TRIED. WHAT ENDED UP? IS IT A SOCCER FIELD, A DETENTION AREA? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RIVERWOOD? RIVERWOOD? A DETENTION AREA? I DRIVE THROUGH RIVERWOOD RANCH.
IT'S GOT THIS BIG OPEN GREEN AREA.
IF IT'S DRY, YOU CAN PLAY SOCCER IN IT.
SAY IT'S JUST MORE CHALLENGING.
SOCCER. I MEAN, THIS IS WE'RE DEALING WITH ASHTON GRAY.
AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE NEGOTIATED.
WAS IT A MILLION, A MILLION, 1.9, 1.9 MILLION BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THERE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS WOULD BE TAXING OUR RESOURCES, ESSENTIALLY, AND THEY WEREN'T GOING TO PUT IN THEIR OWN BALL FIELDS AND THEIR OWN GYM, BASKETBALL COURTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO. THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN MORE.
LOOK HOW EXPENSIVE THAT PARK IS.
DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT, I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS.
AND THEY WERE NEGOTIATING PRETTY HARD.
THEY WANTED A LOT LESS THAN THAT.
YES. SO WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT THE STATE HAS LIMITS THE CITY ON WHAT WE CAN CONTROL IN OUR ETJ.
AND SO. YOU KNOW, THE CONSEQUENCES OF OTHER CITIES BEING BAD ACTORS WHO ARE NOW ALL UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA. SO.
SO WE GETTING BACK TO THE NATATORIUM.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER FEATURE, BUT WHAT I WILL REMIND YOU OF AGAIN, AND YOU ALL STILL NEED TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE AS A PROJECT, IS YOU ARE ALLOWING THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER TO RETAIN $100,000 IN THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER FUND BALANCE, WHICH HAS NO PART IN A FUND BALANCE OR WHAT YOU WOULD MOVE FOR DEBT ISSUANCE IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT.
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AND SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS THAT MAYBE THE WATER COMPONENT BE IN YOUR DEBT ISSUANCE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING, AND THEN THE PLASTER AND THE DECKING COME OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE FOR ARC. THE ONLY THING I SEE ON THAT THAT PUSHES THOSE NATATORIUM, I GUESS IT WOULD GO BELOW 100,000.WELL, AND ONE THING THAT I'LL SAY HERE TOO IS THAT BEYOND BLUE POOLS, I THINK I REMOVED IT FROM THE CALCULATION, BUT THERE ARE SOME SPECIFICALLY BEYOND BLUE POOLS THAT HAD THE DECK AND THE PLASTER IN THERE.
QUOTE. AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
I DON'T KNOW IF I REMOVED IT OR NOT.
SO FOR BEYOND BLUE POOL, THAT COULD WELL BE THE ENTIRE AMOUNT.
SO YEAH, WE MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK TO ABC FOR WHATEVER THE DEFICIT IS, WHATEVER WE DON'T HAVE, BUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE CREATIVE WITH THAT AS WELL.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD ASSUMING YOU ALL THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA IF WE WERE GOING TO GO OUT FOR DEBT, IF WE WERE GOING TO PICK ONE OF THESE PLAY STATIONS, THEN YES, I THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS THE NATATORIUM DECK AT THE SAME TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE FOR A WHILE ANYWAY, TO DO IT ONCE AND THEN HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN TWICE, APPROVE THE WHOLE THING AND GET IT, MAKE IT NICE.
SO, SO THAT AND THEN THE BALL FIELD.
SO I THINK YOU CAN ACTUALLY CUT SOME OF THAT OUT AND YOU PROBABLY DO THE FIELD.
AND SO THEY'RE NOT JUST COMING UP WITH THE NUMBERS.
THIS IS BASED ON QUOTED PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
I'M SAYING CUT RIGHT BECAUSE THEY LISTED ALL THOSE IN THERE UNDER THAT NUMBER.
SO I'M SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE LARGE PAVILION, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE RIGHT COVERED BATTING CAGES IN IMMEDIATELY SO YOU COULD SAVE SOME MONEY THERE. YEAH WE'LL BE DEFINITELY FEEL.
AND THEN YOU BROUGHT UP STORAGE AND I THINK THAT'S SOUND LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE DONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FIELD, PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU GOT TO BE ABLE TO STORE THE STUFF THAT MAINTAIN THAT FIELD.
AND THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE PARKING EITHER, WHICH IS ANOTHER 200,000.
I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO DO PARKING, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO START. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE PARKING IN THE ORIGINAL.
THE OTHER TWO AREAS AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THE BUDGET.
IN MY HEAD WOULD BE THE ABIGAIL ARIAS AT A MUCH SMALLER FIGURE FIVE.
AND IF YOU GUYS WHAT IS TYPICALLY DONE AND I KNOW IT'S QUITE A BIT OF A RANGE, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT CONSULTANT IS CHOSEN TO HELP WITH THAT PROCESS. BUT IF YOU PICK A NUMBER, LET'S SAY IT'S 2.5 AND THE CHARGES FOR JUST THE SCHEMATIC AND DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS IS USUALLY ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15% OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY CONSTRUCTION COSTS 2.5 OR 3, JUST HAVE THAT CALCULATION IN YOUR HEAD.
AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE TOO, BECAUSE I DO WANT AND THAT'S WHERE THE DRAINAGE I WANTED TO LOOK.
SURE FACTOR IN IF WE'RE GOING TO.
MAKE SURE WE CAN LOOK IN THAT AREA FOR POSSIBLE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT AS WE'RE PREPARING.
I DON'T NECESSARILY BUILD BULGARIA'S PART, BUT PREPARING TO BUILD ABIGAIL.
JUST TO CLARIFY, ALL WE'VE DONE IS PURCHASE THE LAND AT THIS POINT.
CORRECT? CORRECT. WELL, I SAY THAT ALL WE'VE DONE IS PURCHASE THE LAND.
WE HAVE GONE OUT FOR PUBLIC SURVEY ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
SO WE DO HAVE AN AMENITY LISTING THAT COULD HAVE CHANGED FROM A YEAR OR TWO AGO.
WHAT WAS THE THE RESULTS FROM THAT PREVIOUS SURVEY OF LIKE THE MAYBE TOP THREE THINGS THEY WANTED.
THEY WANTED A SPLASH PAD, PAVILIONS, WALKING TRAILS, PLAYGROUND.
YOU HAD SOME OUTLIERS THAT WERE MENTIONED LIKE A SKATE PARK, BUT THOSE WERE THE MAIN COMPONENTS.
REMEMBER INGLETON UNIVERSITY, WHERE WE PUT EVERYTHING IN OUR PARK AND WE'RE LIKE, HOW MUCH MONEY?
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YEAH. SO OKAY.I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING SOME MAINTENANCE AND GENERAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RECREATION CENTER.
YES, WE CAN FIX THESE THINGS, BUT WE'RE STILL MAXING OUT.
EVEN IF IF WE DO FIX THESE THINGS, WE'RE MAXING OUT EVERY SUMMER ON CAPACITY AND THE NATATORIUM.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AS WE'RE CONTINUING TO ADD TO OUR POPULATION? WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
SO THOSE THREE ITEMS WOULD PROBABLY BE MY PRIORITIES.
AND THE NEXT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT FITS IN THE BUDGET WOULD BE THE PASSIVE AREA BRIDGE.
GOING BACK TO ABIGAIL, YOU SAID IT WAS A PRIORITY.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND NOT CONSTRUCTION, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE PROJECT? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE SET A BUDGET FOR 2.5 OR ROUGHLY.
I MEAN, THAT MAY BE MORE THAN WE ACTUALLY DO, BUT WHAT DOES THAT GET US? I DON'T KNOW WHAT. AND DO YOU WANT THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, THE 10 TO 15% TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT 2.5.
SO REALLY YOUR CONSTRUCTION BEING ABOUT TWO.
SO I GUESS THE MAX AMOUNT IS 2.5.
RIGHT. SO YEAH, I'M JUST THROWING AN UMBRELLA, EVERYTHING UNDER IT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN GET.
AND I'M JUST SO JUST FEEDBACK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO START WITHOUT ASKING KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
SO THAT WOULD JUST MAKES IT EASY, RIGHT? WITH ALL THOSE THINGS YOU LISTED FOR ABIGAIL PARK, IS THAT PLACE BIG ENOUGH FOR ALL THOSE? YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST OVER SEVEN ACRES.
AND THAT IS PART OF YOUR SCHEMATIC DESIGN.
WHEN WE COLLECT ALL THIS INFORMATION, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ARE GOING TO COME IN HERE AND START PUTTING LIKE OKAY WELL TYPICALLY THE FOOTPRINT FOR A SPLASH PAD DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT IS X.
HERE'S SOME TRAIL SO THAT YOU WON'T DETERMINE THAT YOU'VE GOT TO SET THE PRICE FIRST.
THEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PARK AMENITY AND COMPONENTS AND AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THE PUBLIC FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS, LIKE YOU ALL ARE MAKING DECISIONS ON WHAT GETS CUT AND WHAT DOESN'T.
BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T HAVE AMENITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BRING A TON OF PEOPLE AND THEN ONLY HAVE TEN PARKING SPOTS, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO PROGRAM IT TO OUR CONSTRAINTS.
I DON'T MAYBE THAT'S AND THEN MAYBE A WALKING TRAIL, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE. BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.
AND YOU'RE USUALLY GOOD AT ACQUIRING TREES.
AND IF WE NEED TO PLANT THOSE, WE CAN PLANT THOSE OVER THERE.
WE WILL GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET FEEDBACK.
WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DEFINITE DECISION.
SO NONE OF THOSE DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE.
I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS A YEARS LONG PROJECT.
I MEAN, I'M JUST AND AGAIN, WE'LL WORK WITHIN THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS.
IF WE COME TO THE TABLE AND WE SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO SLASH PARK PAVILION AND THE PLAYGROUND AND WOW, WE'RE OVER $2 MILLION, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SCALE BACK OR MAKE THE PLAYGROUND SMALLER, OR MAKE THE SPLASH PAD SMALLER, OR TAKE OUT AN AMENITY.
RIGHT NOW. NAME IS ABIGAIL PARK.
THE REASON I SAY IT CAN'T IS WE ONLY HAVE 4 MILLION TO DEAL WITH, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS HERE.
SO I JUST THREW SOME NUMBERS DOWN HERE THAT I'VE BEEN KIND OF THINKING.
OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WAS 2 MILLION FOR ABIGAIL PARK, 900,000 FOR FREEDOM, WHICH GETS US SHOULD GET THAT STORAGE BUILDING AND THAT THAT FIELD BUILT.
AND THEN THE REC CENTER 500,000.
YOU WANT TO DO THE MASTER PLAN FOR THAT.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE DONE ON THAT FACILITY.
SO 500,000 SHOULD GET YOU STARTED ON THAT.
THOSE LIGHTS JUST IN CASE THEY DON'T MAKE IT IN.
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THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T DO.I'D RATHER SEE PERHAPS BG PACK MOVE SOME OF THAT SAND.
AND I'M JUST SAYING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE.
AND ALL THAT MONEY WE SPENT TRANSFERRING IT.
OH, TRUST ME, I KNOW THEY'VE GOT IT COVERED SO WHITES COULD WAIT.
CAN WE GET A GOOD, GOOD ENOUGH STORM? YEAH. END UP LOSING.
I DON'T SAY HALF OF IT. THAT MIGHT BE EXTREME.
WELL, I'VE GOT TWO 50IN THERE.
WHATEVER. WHATEVER WE DECIDE, IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS, I'M JUST ON THAT.
I JUST WANT US TO THINK ABOUT THAT, THAT'S ALL.
YEAH. SO THAT DIDN'T EVEN COVER THE HUNDRED AND 67 230 I GOT TO PULL FROM.
SO LET US COME BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.
YEAH. AND THEN THE LAST PIECE I HAVE IS 350,000 FOR DRAINAGE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE THIRD RAIL OF ABC.
YEAH. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS AROUND TOWN THAT NEED SOME DRAINAGE WORK DONE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR 350,000 IS GOING TO GET US.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GET US VERY FAR, BUT IT'S ADDRESSING A NEED IN THE CITY THAT NEEDS TO BE.
I'M FINE WITH THAT. THERE IS AND I WANT TO AND THAT'S 4 MILLION.
JUST NOTE THAT THERE IS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE RELATED TO DRAINAGE.
WHAT IS OUTLINED IN OUR ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION.
WELL, FOR SEVEN ACRE PARK, YEAH.
AND ONE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS ABIGAIL WAS WELL KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE REGION, IF NOT NATION.
AND SO ANOTHER IDEA COULD BE THAT IF WE FIND AS WE START FINDING THIS, THAT IT'S OVER 2 MILLION, MAYBE WE REACH OUT TO INDUSTRY PARTNERS OR FOLKS THAT MIGHT REALLY WANT TO HAVE THEIR NAME ON A PLAYGROUND OR AN AREA OF THE PARK.
MY IDEA WOULD BE, REGARDLESS IF WE COME IN AT 2 MILLION OR EVEN EXCEED THAT, I THINK OPPORTUNITY THERE, LIKE YOU SAID, FOR, I MEAN, YOU COULD BE POLICE FRATERNAL ORDERS, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE NATION.
YOU KNOW, HIGH BIG MONEY INDUSTRIES.
SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PURSUE THAT REGARDLESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
WEATHER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THINGS GO THE WAY WE HOPE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WONDER IF I WONDER IF ANGLETON IS THE ONLY CITY WITH THE ABIGAIL ARIAS PARK.
AS FAR AS I KNOW I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANYONE NAMING.
SHE WENT EVERYWHERE. SO, I MEAN, I JUST I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND I THINK.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY CAN BE GREAT TO HAVE SOME PRIVATE ASSISTANCE OR SURE, I AGREE.
SO WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM, IF WE IS THERE A MOTION TO PURSUE DEBT ISSUANCE, AND IF SO, DO YOU ALL AT THIS TIME WANT TO BE SPECIFYING THE PROJECTS? I KNOW EVERYONE HAS HAD INPUT.
SOME OF IT'S SIMILAR, SOME OF IT DIFFERENT.
SO STAFF WOULD LIKE TO GET SPECIFIC DIRECTION IF WE COULD.
YEAH, I WAS JUST THROWING THOSE OUT THERE.
I KNOW TRAVIS HAS SPOKEN. I WAS MAKING SURE EVERYONE GOT THEIR TIME TO GO OVER THEM AGAIN.
SO WHAT JOHN HAD MENTIONED WAS ABIGAIL FOR 2,900,000 FOR FREEDOM, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE STORAGE AND FIELDS, 500,000 FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, MASTER PLAN, NATATORIUM MAINTENANCE ITEMS, 250 FOR LIGHTS AT PG PECK AND 350,000 FOR DRAINAGE. THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION THROWN OUT ABOUT THE GRADING, WHICH IS 367,235.
AND MY IDEA ON THAT IS ALWAYS WHEN THAT FIGURE CAME BACK TO ME, IT WOULD BE TO.
YOU'RE GOING TO COMPOUND SOME OF THOSE COSTS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS FOR ALL THE FIELDS, FOR EVERYTHING.
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BUT IT SOUNDS GOOD.I WOULD TAKE A PRIORITY OF GRADING OVER LIGHTS, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
YES. DRAINAGE WORK WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
I MEAN. I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, AND IT'S MAYBE LARGELY BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS ORGANIZATION OR THIS. I, I GREW UP IN BEAUMONT.
I GREW UP, I SPENT A LOT OF PART OF MY LIFE IN HOUSTON AS WELL.
I THINK FOR A CITY THE SIZE OF ANGLETON, WE HAVE WONDERFUL AMENITIES.
I THINK IT'S. REALLY ADDS TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN ANGLETON.
BUT I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES HERE TOO TO.
CONTINUE THAT TRADITION OR BUILD UPON WHAT HAS THE FOUNDATION THAT'S BEEN LAID IN? TO CONTINUE, ESPECIALLY AS THE CITY GROWS, TO KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES, SO TO SPEAK, BUT BUT CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SO.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I ENJOY ABOUT LIVING HERE.
I UTILIZE THE PARKS ALL THE TIME.
JUST KIDS LOVE THEM, YOU KNOW? SO. THEY DO GET USED A LOT.
EVERYWHERE YOU GO, YOU SEE PEOPLE IN ANY PART OF THE.
AND THAT'S A BIG FAN OF BAIT STICKY.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I LIKE IT. I LIKE IT.
IF WE DECIDE TO ISSUE DEBT, THEN I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE ALLOCATIONS AND YOU ALL MAKE A GOOD POINT.
YOU THINK ABOUT THAT. BUT I KNOW FROM CITY COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, YOU KNOW, IS, IS HAS BEEN IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM OUR, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING FROM I WON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING FOR CITY COUNCIL, IT'S BEEN TO TRY TO, LIKE YOU SAID, MAKE SURE EVERY PART OF THE CITY IS BEING ADDRESSED AND NOBODY IS BEING NEGLECTED.
YEAH. AND I GREW UP ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THAT COME ALONG DOWN THERE IN THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT WITH THAT ISSUE IN SOME KIND OF DEBT.
HE'S GOT A CHECK HERE. HOW FAR DO THOSE CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS GO? YOU KNOW, WE CAN.
YOU ALL CAN DECIDE TO DO THIS AND STILL INCLUDE I MEAN, WE LAST TIME WE ISSUED DEBT, WE INCLUDE SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN Z SO THAT IT ALLOWS US, IF WE DO REALISTICALLY RECEIVE OTHER CORPORATE SPONSORS FOR ANY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL ARE PURSUING, THEN WE CAN REALLOCATE THAT TOO.
HAVE WE DONE THAT FOR ANY PROJECT FROM FOR PARKS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW KRISTEN, YOU AND JASON AND MARTHA GO TO DOW AT ONE POINT BEFORE LAKESIDE WAS COMPLETE, I KNOW I CREATED A PRESENTATION FOR CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE GOT A BITE ON LAKESIDE, BUT I RECALL CREATING A PRESENTATION FOR IT.
USUALLY YOU SEE IT AT BALLPARKS, YOU KNOW, ON THE FENCES, BUT I THINK THAT'S ALL DEPENDENT ON US PUTTING THAT STAKE IN THE GAME, SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THAT PARK.
WHO WANTS TO BE A PLAYER IN THAT? RIGHT. SO, RIGHT. WE'VE GOT TO KIND OF WAIT TILL WE DESIGNATE AND WE'RE GOING TO GO DO THAT, AND THEN WE CAN PICK UP THAT BALL AND SAY, HEY, LET'S BE A PARTNER.
GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW THEM.
YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE PROJECTS AS PRESENTED.
ISSUE THE DEBT UP TO $4 MILLION IN THE ALLOCATIONS THAT.
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PGE PARK BEING A LITTLE DEBATABLE.AND WOULD YOU ALSO CONSIDER LANGUAGE AND ITEM Z OF YOUR PACKET? YES, YES, I'LL SECOND THAT.
GRADING BOARD. I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH ALL THAT, SO I'M NOT SURE.
I'LL SAY THAT I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON B.J., B.J.
I DIDN'T I SAID I'D LIKE IT FOR LIGHTS, BUT I SAID 250,000 FOR B.J.
PECK SO WE CAN IMPROVE HOW THAT MONEY GETS SPENT.
BUT 250 FOR THAT PARK? YEAH, BECAUSE INCLUDING THAT PARK, LAND, BUILDINGS, EQUIPMENT, FACILITIES, IMPROVEMENTS TO ENHANCE THE FACILITY.
SO MAYBE IT WON'T REALLY BE AS MUCH FOR WHAT WE'RE LIKE.
YEAH, I LIKE WHAT TRAVIS HAD MENTIONED ABOUT.
I MEAN, AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE TO DO ALL IN ONE FELL SWOOP, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT JOHN'S CAUTIONING US ABOUT, BUT IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TAKE AND BITE OFF 1 OR 2 FIELDS AT A TIME.
YEAH. WELL AND TWO, WE DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY OR SLOWLY THIS WILL TAKE.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE UTILIZE FOR EVEN THE HAULING.
AND THAT IS ONE THING THAT GOES BACK.
CIRCLING BACK TO YOUR POINT ON THE REC CENTER.
IF YOU ISSUE THE DEBT IN THE FIRST.
RIGHT. SAME THING FOR THE SOCCER FIELDS.
THE PRIMARY SEASON FOR SOCCER IS THE FALL.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN THEN.
THEN A LOT OF IT CAN BE DONE BEFORE AUGUST OF 24.
NEVER MIND. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NAY. MOTION CARRIES.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE WE'VE HIT SEVEN.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO SIX.
AND AFTER WHAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
ANYBODY WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING ON HERE OR PULL ANYTHING UP THAT YOU WANT TO SEE? THAT'S $4 MILLION IN DEBT ISSUANCE.
AND SO WE'LL BE MID YEAR IN THE DEBT ISSUANCE.
SO YOUR FIRST PAYMENT WILL BE A LOT LESS THAN IF YOU DID IT NOW.
NOW I HAVE TO REMEMBER WHAT JOE SAID.
DO YOU HAVE THAT? OKAY, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CONTINGENCY STILL AVAILABLE.
SO, SO LET US COME BACK NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF DEFINED THE NUMBER AND REPRESENT THAT ALONG WITH THE PROJECTS, THAT'S PROBABLY HELPED SOLIDIFY THAT WE ARE WHAT YOU ALL SAID AND THAT SCHEDULE.
RIGHT? YEAH. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT OKAY.
CAN WE ALSO HAVE THE YEAR END NUMBERS, THE FINAL NUMBERS IN.
BECAUSE WE'RE. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
RIGHT. DO YOU STILL THINK WE'LL HAVE THE NUMBERS IN BEFORE THEN? OKAY, I DON'T THINK SO.
I MEAN, JOE'S PRETTY TIED UP RIGHT NOW, AND HE SHOULD TRY TO GET.
WELL, THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST SAYING.
AND ONCE, ONCE WE HAVE THE CONFIRMATION, THEN WE CAN GO EXECUTE.
AND HAVING THE MONEY IN TWO MONTHS OR SOMETHING.
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WELL, THEN. I GUESS WE ARE AT THE ADJOURNMENT STAGE OF OUR MEETING, AND WE CAN ADJOURN AT 7:25 P.M..