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EVENING, EVERYONE IT'S 6:00, WE CAN GO AND GET THIS MEETING STARTED.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER ]

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WE HAVE A QUORUM OF THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL TOGETHER.

WE ARE MINUS ONE.

AND THAT WILL BE MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND ABSENT TONIGHT.

GO AHEAD AND ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE RISE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE AND THEN REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PRAYER.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU AGAIN THAT WE GET TO COME BEFORE YOU AND BE IN EACH OTHER'S PRESENCE TONIGHT AND DELIBERATE THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY.

LORD WE ASK YOU TO GIVE US YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR UNDERSTANDING.

PRAY, FATHER, THAT EVERYTHING WE DECIDE HERE TONIGHT WOULD BE AN HONORABLE TO YOU AND FOR THE CITIZENRY HERE IN TOWN.

CONTINUE TO PRAY, FATHER, FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF AND ASSOCIATED PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY AND AROUND THE CITY.

PROTECT THEM AND GIVE THEM.

GIVE THEM YOUR BEST.

HELP US LORD, WE THANK YOU.

WE PRAISE YOU. WE LOVE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE. IN CHRIST NAME WE PRAY AMEN, AMEN, AMEN.

YOU MAY BE SEATED. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.

AND THEN ALSO THANK YOU TO THOSE LISTENING AT HOME.

HOPE YOU GET SOMETHING OUT OF TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.

[CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ]

I HAVE TWO BLAKE AND KATIE.

DO Y'ALL WANT TO WAIT UNTIL YOUR AGENDA ITEM TO SPEAK? OKAY. OR YOU CAN SPEAK NOW.

JUST UP TO YOU. OKAY.

WAIT. YEAH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE MICHELLE? NO. OKAY.

[1. Presentation of employee service award. ]

WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

I'VE NUMBER ONE, PRESENTATION OF EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARD.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS EVENING WE RECOGNIZE JC MALEVICH, WHO IS UNABLE TO BE WITH US TODAY.

SHE HAS WORKED IN ANIMAL SERVICES FOR FIVE YEARS.

GREAT, GREAT [APPLAUSE].

[2. Presentation of employee appreciation. ]

THEN ITEM NUMBER TWO PRESENTATION OF EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION.

WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE JOHN [INAUDIBLE], OUR SAFETY COORDINATOR, FOR HIS DILIGENT WORK ON THE CITY HALL ANNEX LEASE SPACE.

AND IF JOHN WOULD COME UP HERE AND ACCEPT HIS CERTIFICATE.

JOHN, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANY WORDS? IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT. I HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT ON THIS, ACTUALLY, SO.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

[CONSENT AGENDA ]

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MOVING TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD BID NUMBER 2023-010 THE BG PECK SOCCER COMPLEX LED SOLAR PARKING LOT LIGHTING, SPARK LIGHTING AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET SCHEDULE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024.

ROAD, PAVEMENT OR ROAD PROJECT TO OVERLAY ASPHALT STREETS, COUNCIL.

MAYER I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

SECOND BY I'M GOING TO SAY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL.

SHE BARELY GOT YOU.

OKAY. I, I DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[4. Discussion and possible action to approve the budget schedule for Fiscal Year 2024-2025.]

CAN WE MOVE THAT OUT OF CONSENT AND BRING IT OUT FOR DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

THE ISSUE IS ON THE CALENDAR YOU HAVE JULY 19TH AS A STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING.

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THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN BE AVAILABLE AT.

AND I WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THAT.

SURE. WE CAN GO BACK.

OKAY. AND THEN THE.

YOU AND I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT CHANGING THE DATE OF THE DELIVERY TO COUNCIL.

I SEE THAT COUNCIL STILL RECEIVES THE DRAFT BUDGET ON JULY 1ST.

DO YOU WANT TO HOLD THAT OFF UNTIL LAST YEAR OR TWO NOW IS SUBMIT A FLAT BUDGET.

SO I'M GOING TO SUBMIT WHAT OUR CURRENT EXPENSES ARE WHAT OUR PROJECTED LIKE.

SO IF INSURANCE IS GOING UP OR SOMETHING'S GONE UP, SUBMIT THAT AS AS YOUR AS THE BUDGET.

SURE. AND THEN ONCE WE SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS LATER NOW WE'LL HAVE THE TAX VALUE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THEN WE CAN LIKE WE'VE DONE THE PAST TWO YEARS, PUT THAT, PUT THOSE, PUT PROJECTS IN AS WE DETERMINE WHAT THAT REVENUE IS GOING TO BE.

THAT'S ALL. OKAY.

I'M HAPPY TO DELAY BECAUSE THAT'S I MEAN THAT'S STAFF WORK, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT'S ANY BETTER TO DO IT IN JULY.

YEAH. I'M JUST AFRAID IT'S GOING TO CAUSE CONFUSION AGAIN.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO EXCLUDE THE REVENUE PORTION OF THAT AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON EXPENSES FIRST, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH REVENUE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DECISION DECISION ON EXPENSES.

I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT STUFF, BUT THERE'S ALSO JUST REGULAR OPERATING COSTS THAT MIGHT HAVE TO BE MOVED AS WELL.

RIGHT? BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE WON'T LOOK AT THAT UNTIL AFTER THE 25TH JULY.

AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IN IF AGAIN IF INSURANCE WENT UP OR I'M PUTTING THOSE THINGS IN THE BUDGET TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM.

IN THEORY AND ALL THE OTHER ADDS OF NEW EXPENSES THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS OR OTHER COSTS OR WHATEVER TO PUT THAT IN AT WHEN WE HAVE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AT THE END OF JULY.

OKAY. ARE WE GOING TO GET AN AMENDED BUDGET? WILL WE GET SO WE GET THE FIRST BOOK ON THE 1ST OF JULY WITH THE EXPENDITURES, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE INSERTS FOR US THAT COME BACK AND ADD IN THE REST.

YES. OKAY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP AGAIN LIKE WE DO THE THE PROJECT LIST OR THE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE NEED AS JUST A LIST WITH COSTS.

SO THAT AGAIN, AS WE COME BACK TO THE WORKSHOP WE CAN INSERT OR NOT OR ADD THOSE TO MEET THE MEET THE WHATEVER WE DECIDE, THE REVENUE COULD BE OKAY.

COUNCIL EVERYONE GOOD WITH THAT? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? NO. OKAY.

I KNOW WE'RE THE DECISION MAKERS, BUT THEY ARE [INAUDIBLE] HECK OF A LOT OF MANPOWER, MAN HOURS THAT GO INTO DEVELOPING THIS.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO GET AS MUCH OF THEIR STUFF DONE AS POSSIBLE.

THEY CAN JOT DOWN THE KNOWNS AND LEAVE THE UNKNOWNS TO BE DISCUSSED.

OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO AMEND.

YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SUBJECT TO THE CHANGE, WITH EXCEPTION OF JULY 19TH.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE BUDGET SCHEDULE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24-25, WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF JULY 19TH.

YEAH. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER ROBERTS, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL FOR NUMBER FOUR APPROVAL.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER SIX.

[6. Discussion and possible action on the traffic, construction, and drainage issues on Piney Way Street. ]

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE TRAFFIC, CONSTRUCTION AND DRAINAGE ISSUES ON PINEY WAY STREET.

SO HOW DO YOU WANT TO START IT? YOU WANT. I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON IT, I SUGGEST THAT.

AND THEN WE CAN BRING STAFF UP AND TALK ABOUT.

I'M GOING TO CALL BLAKE SAFELY UP FIRST.

YOU HAVE A FIVE MINUTES, MORE OR LESS.

OKAY. I'M GONNA APOLOGIZE FOR MY VOICE.

I HAD AN EXCITING WEEKEND OF BASEBALL, SO IT'S BARELY THERE.

I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF PINEY WAY.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IN THE EIGHT YEARS THAT WE MOVED BACK TO ANGLETON THAT WE'VE COME TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH PINEY WAY.

MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED THERE, AND WE PURCHASED THEIR HOME IN ORDER TO COME BACK TO ANGLETON.

AND SO THE TRAFFIC ON PINEY WAY HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR 35 YEARS ESSENTIALLY, WHAT IT HAS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS COMPOUNDED

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200% WITH THE SPEED AND THE TRASH AND THE MAILBOX REPLACEMENTS AND THE FLOODING.

I'VE REPLACED SIX MAILBOXES IN EIGHT YEARS.

TWO OF THEM WERE TAKEN OUT BY CITY EMPLOYEES.

SO IF THAT TELLS YOU ANYTHING.

THE WIDEST PART OF OUR STREET IS 14IN ACROSS.

I MYSELF HAVE TWO LITTLE BOYS THAT LOVE TO RIDE BIKES, AND THEY LOVE TO SKATEBOARD AND THEY LOVE TO RIDE SCOOTERS.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PASS A CERTAIN POINT IN OUR DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS LIKE 25FT FROM THE ROAD.

BECAUSE I'M TERRIFIED.

I'M TERRIFIED THEY'RE GONNA GET HIT BY A CAR.

I'M TERRIFIED THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO SNATCH THEM UP.

I'M TERRIFIED THAT ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE TO MONITOR THAT ROAD.

WE'VE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC RECENTLY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC STEADILY 18 WHEELERS PULLING THROUGH THERE. OUR ROAD IS BARELY WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS, TWO WAY TRAFFIC.

PERSONALLY, IF YOU COME DOWN MY ROAD AND I'M DRIVING IT, YOU'RE RIDING THE DITCH BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIVE THERE.

IT'S PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN WORSE.

I WILL SAY, WITH THE BAR TRAFFIC AT TWO IN THE MORNING.

THEY CUT RIGHT FROM THAT BAR AND THEY COME DOWN OUR STREET AND YOU CAN HEAR THEM RIGHT WHEN THEY PASS THE CURVE THE STRAIGHTAWAY TO VALDERAS VELASCO WHATEVER'S RIGHT THERE, IT IS JUST NONSTOP.

ANOTHER ISSUE IS THE MORNINGS WITH THE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE PEOPLE NOW AVOID HENDERSON THE FOUR WAY AT HENDERSON IS A MESS.

IT'S BACKED UP.

SO WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY CUT THROUGH OUR STREET SO THEIR KIDS ARE NOT LATE TO SCHOOL, WHICH ESSENTIALLY PUTS US AT RISK BECAUSE WE'RE LEAVING TO TAKE OUR KIDS TO SCHOOL.

THE EVENINGS FROM 4 TO 6 YOU CAN JUST AVOID OUR STREET BECAUSE IT'S IT'S STILL A NONSTOP TRAFFIC.

IT'S A THOROUGHFARE COMPLETELY.

AND OUR STREET IS NOT MADE FOR THAT.

I DON'T WANT US TO TURN INTO CANNON.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE MY DISHES.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO SPREAD IT OUT AND PUT SIDEWALKS.

ESSENTIALLY, I WANT IT CUT OFF.

AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY IS AGAINST THAT ON EVERY LEVEL.

THE EXIT UP TO 288 IS DANGEROUS.

YOU CAN'T SEE PULLING OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE AT A STEEP INCLINE WITH THE CONCRETE BARRIERS AND THEN COMING IN, YOU'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST A CONCRETE BARRIER TURNING INTO YOUR STREET, WHICH ISN'T REALLY WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO PEOPLE TO BE AT THE STOP SIGN.

SO THAT LEAVES YOU, AS A RESIDENT SITTING ON THE HIGHWAY.

I KNOW BRONCO BEND IS FACING SIMILAR ISSUES WITH THEIR STREET BEING A CUT THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GROWTH IS AMAZING FOR OUR CITY, BUT I THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE AND OUR STREET IS TAKING A HIT.

WE MOVED BACK TO ANGLETON FROM PEARLAND TO GET AWAY FROM THIS, AND WE WANTED THIS QUIET LITTLE STREET WITH LARGE LOTS AND THE PRETTY TREES.

HOWEVER PICKING UP TRASH AND NEEDLES AND CONDOMS OUT OF MY DITCH AND MIRRORS AND REPLACING MY MAILBOX EVERY FEW YEARS ISN'T IDEAL. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CAN BE AVOIDED.

SO I'M PROPOSING THAT ESSENTIALLY, I WANT MY STREET CUT OFF.

WE HAVE THE MENTION WITH SPEED BUMPS ALSO AN ISSUE.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

WHATEVER IS GOING TO DECREASE THE TRAFFIC AND THE SPEED ON OUR ROAD, BECAUSE THAT'S THE I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CUT THROUGH IT EITHER WAY, BUT DECREASING THE TRAFFIC TO WHERE IT'S NOT AS APPEALING WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE.

MY BIGGEST FEAR, LIKE I SAID, IS ARE THEY GOING TO WAIT TILL SOMEONE'S KID GETS HIT OR SOMEONE GETS HURT, OR SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPENS TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, AND AT THAT POINT IT'S TOO LATE.

THEY'VE WAITED WAY TOO LONG.

WE HAVE A SECOND DRIVEWAY THAT WE'VE OFFERED THE CITY, THE POLICE, TO SIT AND MAN THE STREET TO WATCH FOR SPEEDERS.

AND THEY'VE DONE IT ONCE IN EIGHT YEARS.

SO THAT IS THERE.

AND IT LIKE, YOU CAN USE IT WHENEVER YOU WANT BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT THEY CAN'T REALLY PATROL IT BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO SIT.

SO THAT'S OPEN.

MY ONLY OTHER ISSUE IS THAT I DON'T WANT TO BE A PROBLEM AND I DON'T WANT TO SEEM LIKE A COMPLAINER.

HOWEVER, WHEN IT COMES TO MY KIDS AND MY LIVELIHOOD, I'M NOT GOING TO BE QUIET.

AND SO I'LL CONTINUE TO FIGHT THIS AND BRING THIS ISSUE, AND WE HOPE THAT WE CAN COME TO AN AMICABLE SOLUTION BETWEEN OUR RESIDENTS AND THE CITY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] HELLO? HELLO, I'M KATHERINE WINANS.

I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM BLAKE SAFELY.

I WANT TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING THAT SHE JUST SAID.

SHE SAID IT VERY WELL, BUT SHE DIDN'T MENTION ONE THING.

OUR STREET IS 14.5IN ACROSS.

I GOT OUT THERE IN SWEATPANTS AND GOT A MEASURING TAPE AND MEASURED IT MYSELF.

SO STATE CODE IS 45FT, CURB TO CURB FOR ILLEGAL FOR NOT FOR LIKE ILLEGAL.

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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 14.5FT IS NOT EVEN EMERGENCY USE WIDTH.

SO THERE'S NO REAL REASON UNLESS IT BENEFITS THE CITY IN ANY WAY THAT OUR STREET SHOULD NOT BE CUT OFF, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND I KNOW I WAS TOLD I HAVE IT RECORDED BY A CITY EMPLOYEE THAT PUT THE LAMPS IN, WHICH WAS RECENTLY HIT BECAUSE THEY WERE LEANING AND IT'S ABOUT TO FALL IN MY YARD THAT NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE WE GET TO SIGN THAT Y'ALL WILL NEVER CLOSE OUR ROAD.

AND I HAVE IT RECORDED JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW.

BUT LIKE BLAKE SAID, I WOULD LOVE SPEED BUMPS.

I WOULD LOVE MORE COPS VISIBLE [INAUDIBLE].

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST WANT IT CLOSED.

IT'S JUST IT'S NOT SAFE.

THERE WAS A KID HIT IT A FEW WEEKS AGO [INAUDIBLE] AND IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE IT'S OUR STREET.

SO I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK Y'ALL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OTIS [INAUDIBLE] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ON THE CUT THROUGH THERE OFF 288B, I KNOW, I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK THERE WAS ISSUES WITH CEMENT TRUCKS GOING TO GREYSTONE.

THAT'S THE NEWER BUILDER IN THERE.

I DID REACH OUT TO THEM.

THEY CUT THAT OFF.

I DON'T KNOW, THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABOUT DONE, BUT THEY BROUGHT A BROOM OUT AND SWEPT VALDERAS AT THE INTERSECTION THERE AT PINEY WAY AND GREYSTONE.

I REACHED OUT TO ALL FOUR BUILDERS IN GREYSTONE AND ASKED THEM, ASKED THEM NOT TO USE, YOU KNOW, USE HENDERSON OR VALDERAS AND NOT THAT ROAD BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH AND THE SHAPE OF IT.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE ISSUES WHICH AND THEY'RE GOOD WITH THERE IS SIGNAGE ON THAT ROAD.

YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO LUPE ABOUT IT.

WHAT SIGNAGE? THERE'S NO TRUCKS COMING OFF 288 B TRUCKS IS POSTED.

NO TRUCKS. BUT THAT THAT DOESN'T LET ME SPEAK TO THAT.

DELIVERIES. CORRECT.

AS FAR AS YOU KNOW.

SPEAKING WITH LUPE, THAT MEAN, YOU KNOW, NO TRUCKS, BUT DELIVERIES CAN STILL BE MADE.

IT'S REALLY NO THROUGH TRAFFIC IS WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.

SO WHICH THEY ALL AGREE THAT THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE BUILDERS IN GREYSTONE AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

THEY ALL AGREE, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY WILL SPEAK WITH THEIR CONTRACTORS.

THEY USE FAR AS HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR BIG TRUCKS DELIVERING USE ANOTHER ROUTE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS SHE WAS SPEAKING A LOT TOO, THOUGH, IS NOT NECESSARILY THE TRUCKS AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE, BUT COMMUNITY TRAFFIC. YEAH.

WHAT IS THE LEGAL.

OUR NEW WIDTH THAT WE JUST ADOPTED ON THE ROADS IS WHAT, 28 OR 28, I THINK CURB TO CURB, CURB TO CURB.

[INAUDIBLE] THAT ONE'S 14.5.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

I MEAN, I HAVEN'T MEASURED IT.

[INAUDIBLE] SO, LUPE, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? I KNOW YOU DON'T, BUT CAN YOU COME ADDRESS THE NO THROUGH TRUCKS? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

CONCRETE TRUCKS.

DELIVERY TRUCKS.

THOSE. THOSE TRUCKS ARE MAKING DELIVERIES.

SO, YES, THE SIGN SAYS NO TRUCKS, BUT THEY'RE MAKING DELIVERIES.

IF YOU PUT GREYSTONE IN YOUR GPS, IT'S GOING TO PUT THEM DOWN.

IT'S GOING TO RATTLE DOWN PINEY WAY.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. IF YOU PUT ANY ADDRESS ON THERE, IT'S GOING TO RIDE THEM DOWN PINEY WAY.

THAT'S THAT'S THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET THERE, YOU KNOW, TO TO WHEREVER.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THEY'RE MAKING DELIVERIES.

SO PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE HAD A CALL ABOUT THAT SITUATION, WE TOOK AN ELECTRONIC SIGN, PUT IT AT THE END OF THE ROAD, SAID NO CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. WE I PERSONALLY TALKED TO THE BUILDER, MR. APLIN. HE MADE A PHONE CALL.

HE CALLED HIS CONTRACTORS.

TRUCKS WERE REROUTED.

SO AS FAR AS THE SPEEDERS, I MEAN, WE CAN GET DOWN THERE AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE CALLS FOR

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SERVICE. I'LL BRING IT TO YOU AROUND BUDGET TIME.

BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED.

SO WE CAN PUT THE BLACK HAT DOWN THERE ON THAT STREET.

WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE.

WE COULD PUT THE BLACK HAT DOWN THERE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP THEM FROM SPEEDING.

SHE'S GOING TO TELL US WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY ARE THERE.

RIGHT. THE TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THEM TREMENDOUSLY.

BUT IT'S MOSTLY TO THE NEW RESIDENTS THAT ARE COMING IN DOWN THERE.

THE LAST TIME WE PUT THE BLACK CAT UP, WHERE DID WE PUT IT? WAS IT AT THE FRONT OF IT, IN THE MIDDLE.

I THINK IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE A POLE, AND I THINK I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

PUT IT ON ONE OF THOSE POLES.

WE HAD TO HAVE A POLE TO PUT IT ON.

AND THERE'S NOT MANY POLES DOWN THAT STREET.

OKAY, WELL, AND, CHIEF, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT HERE.

WHILE I AGREE WITH WITH YOUR WITH YOUR COMMENT ABOUT DELIVERIES, I DON'T THINK THAT'S EXACTLY ACCURATE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A IF THERE WAS A DELIVERY FOR CONCRETE IN THAT ON THAT STREET, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

BUT IF THE SIGNS POSTED JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE OUT IN THE COUNTY ON MY ROAD, THOSE TRUCKS ARE NOT TO USE THAT ROAD IF IT SAYS NO THROUGH TRUCKS UNLESS THEY HAVE BUSINESS ON THAT ROAD, I HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE IF THAT PARTICULAR THING IS ON THERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, NO, THROUGH TRUCKS MEANS THEIR EVERYDAY TRAFFIC.

THOSE CONCRETE TRUCKS AREN'T GOING DOWN THERE EVERY DAY.

BUT BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT UNLESS THEY HAVE BUSINESS ON THAT ROAD, THEY'RE NOT TO THEY'RE NOT TO ACCESS IT.

I'LL LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.

OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF WHILE HE'S UP HERE? THANKS, CHIEF. THANK YOU.

WHAT ABOUT THE DRAINAGE? WHO WANTS TO TACKLE THE DRAINAGE.

EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL.

SO DRAINAGE ON PINEY WAY BASED ON THE PAST THREE YEARS THAT I LOOKED THROUGH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AS FAR AS WORK ORDER WISE, I KNOW THAT THE DITCHES HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN REGRADED THERE AT SOME POINT.

THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I CAN ASSUME THERE EVER IS GOING TO BE ISSUES THERE.

IF DITCHES NEED TO BE REGRADED, CULVERTS NEED TO BE CLEANED OUT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE REPORTS OF THAT FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.

OKAY. ARE WE ALLOWED TO SPEAK AGAIN? YES. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD.

COME ON, BACK UP. COME ON. BUT YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE PODIUM.

IN REGARDS TO HAVING THE EXTRA POLICE FORCE, I UNDERSTAND SERVICE CALLS 100%.

THAT'S PRIORITY, BUT WE COULD AVOID THAT COMPLETELY IF WE TOOK CARE OF OUR ROAD AND THE THOROUGHFARE THAT IT'S CREATED.

SO IF THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF, WE WOULDN'T NEED THE POLICE TO SIT THERE ALL DAY OR ALL NIGHT TO BE THERE.

AND THEN THE SAME THING WITH THE FLOODING, WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS RECENTLY RIGHT THERE, THAT CURVE.

I'M NOT SURE. THE HOUSE WHERE IT'S THE HOUSE FLOODS OVER THE STREET.

ANY TIME IT RAINS, THE DITCHES ARE FULL.

IT'S FULL ALMOST TO THEIR YARD.

SO THAT CREATES THE MUD AND THE WASH UP THAT STAYS ON THE ROAD UNTIL, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC PULLS IT OFF.

IS IT RIGHT THERE? AND RIGHT OVER THE ROAD.

SO I KNOW HIS RIGHT THERE.

IT'S ONLY BEEN SINCE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NEW BUILDING IS COMING FROM THAT'S CREATING THE ISSUE.

BUT IT WASN'T AN ISSUE EVEN LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO.

I KNOW HIS DITCH IS VERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY NARROW AND JUST WIDE TO THE STREET.

YOU HAD THE SAME FLOODING ISSUES THOUGH IN THE PAST.

YEAH. WE JUST HAD THIS $9,000 ON PUMPS TO PUMP IT OUT OF OUR YARD.

NO, IT STARTED THIS YEAR.

DID YOU CHECK THE LIFT STATION? WASN'T THERE AN ISSUE THERE? NOT IN THAT AREA.

NO NO, NO.

WE GO. I MEAN, WE'LL GO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, AS OF NOW AND GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANY WORK ORDERS PUT IN AS NO ONE'S CALLED IT IN.

AND WE CREATED A WORK ORDER, AND NO ONE SUBMITTED A WORK TICKET THEMSELVES FOR US TO GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT IS WHAT I MEAN IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE HAD NO ISSUES WITH IT.

BUT, I MEAN, WE CAN EASILY GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HECTOR WHILE HE'S HERE?

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ALL RIGHT. THANKS, HECTOR. YES, SIR.

I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE RESIDENTS TO CALL US WHEN THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, BECAUSE I CHECKED FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY THAT WE HAD.

SO IF YOU CALL US, WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME OVER THERE.

IT'S A CALL FOR SERVICE, AND WE'LL BE THERE.

IT'S NOT A REGULAR PATROL YES, MA'AM. BUT WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS TO CALL US AND GET US OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'LL GET THERE.

WE'LL COME OVER THERE AND THEY CAN GO ON THE WEBSITE AND REQUEST THE OFFICERS TO SIT ON THE STREET.

YES.

SO I'LL SAY THAT I DROVE THE DAY THAT YOU YOU POSTED YOUR COMMENT.

I WENT OUT THERE.

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.

I SAW WHAT THEY WERE CLEANING UP, THE CONCRETE THAT HAD SPILLED ON VALDERAS.

KYLE, THANKS FOR GETTING THEM TO CLEAN THAT UP QUICKLY BEFORE IT RUINED THE ROAD.

I'M KIND OF CONCERNED THAT THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE CLEANED IT UP HAD NOBODY MADE A BIG ISSUE OF IT.

THE DROVE IT AGAIN ON FRIDAY JUST TO SEE.

AND I HAD A GUY TAIL ME DOWN PINEY WAY AND I DROVE 20 DOWN THE ROAD.

HE HONKED AT ME A COUPLE TIMES.

THEN AS I TURNED RIGHT ON VALDARES, HE GUNNED IT AROUND ME AND TURNED LEFT INTO GREYSTONE.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT IS THE CUT THROUGH FOR GREYSTONE.

IT IS. AND I COULD TELL THAT I WAS ANNOYING HIM BY GOING 20.

WHAT IS THE CITY ORDINANCE ON THE.

I KNOW THIS CAME UP YEARS AGO, CHIEF, AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW IT BETTER THAN I DO.

WHAT'S THE LOWEST YOUR SPEED LIMIT CAN BE ON A CITY ROAD? 25. 25.

AND THE CITY AND THE SPEED LIMIT ON THAT STREET IS 30.

ALL RIGHT. SO SOME OF MY IDEAS THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT HELP THIS AREA.

I MEAN, I HEAR YOUR YOUR COMPLAINT AND YOU WANT THE ROAD SHUT DOWN.

I'M NOT SURE WE'RE THERE YET.

AND BUT MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT TO 25 ON THE ROAD AND AT THE SAME TIME, I'VE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST SPEED BUMPS IN THE CITY, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ON TWO PARTICULAR ROADS RIGHT NOW AND IT'S PINEY WAY AND EAST BRONCO BEND.

THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT HAVE THE.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD A KID HIT ON BRONCO BEND IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

SPEEDERS CUTTING THROUGH THERE.

ON SOME OF THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS WE'VE DONE, WE'VE ACTUALLY CLOSED THE ROADS OFF GATED THEM FOR RIVERWOOD OR WHAT IS IT? ROSEWOOD. ROSEWOOD, AND THEN ALSO GREYSTONE ON THE BACKSIDE.

SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PUTTING SPEED BUMPS ON CITY STREETS EVERYWHERE.

BUT I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME ARE ARTERIALS, SOME ARE ARE IMPORTANT ROADS YOU CAN'T PUT A SPEED BUMP ON.

BUT IN THIS CASE, THESE TWO ROADS, I CURB AND GUTTER.

IT'S A VERY SMALL, NARROW STREET.

THERE'S NOTHING STANDARD ABOUT THAT ROAD OR BRONCO BEND FOR THAT MATTER.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST ONE PERSON UP HERE, BUT MY IDEA WOULD BE PUT A SPEED BUMP IN THE MIDDLE.

LOWER THE SPEED, THE TRAFFIC TO 25.

WE FIGURE OUT THE NO THROUGH TRUCKS, SIGNAGE.

AND, I MEAN, AT LEAST THAT'S A START ON SOMETHING.

I DO AGREE WITH YOU, THOUGH, THAT IT'S VERY HARD TO COME OUT OF THERE WITH THAT ON THE 288 SIDE, WITH THE AND I'VE ALSO ALMOST BEEN HIT TURNING RIGHT ON BRONCO BEND COMING OFF 288 BECAUSE THERE IS NO TURN LANE.

AND SOMEBODY DIDN'T SEE ME BRAKING WITH MY, MY BLINKER ON AND THEY JUST CAME ON, I HAD TO JUMP OFF THE ROAD TO AVOID GETTING HIT.

I BELIEVE IF Y'ALL PUT THE CONCRETE BARRIERS THERE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WRECKS.

RIGHT.

HAVE A SAFETY ISSUE OVER HERE.

IT'S JUST WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.

SO MAYOR I'D LIKE TO JUST ADD ONE THING.

SURE. THE SPEED LIMIT THERE IS THE PRIMA FACIA SPEED LIMIT OF 30MPH.

SO IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO LOWER IT, YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY CHAPTER 545 OF THE TRANSPORTATION CODE AND FOLLOW THE TXDOT RULES, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO GET A

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TRANSPORTATION AND SPEED STUDY, WHICH USUALLY COSTS MONEY.

BUT YOU CAN TAKE THOSE STEPS.

AND ASSUMING THE FINDINGS ARE REFLECTED BY WHAT YOUR RESIDENTS ARE SAYING, THEN YOU CAN LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT TO 25.

SO THE STATE SAYS PRIMA FACIA SPEED LIMIT.

THAT'S SAFE FOR URBAN AREAS AND URBAN HIGHWAYS.

HIGHWAYS AS STREETS IS 30MPH.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY, AND THIS IS IN REGARD TO, TO YOU TWO LADIES, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I HEAR THAT YOU KEEP SAYING TO CLOSE THE ROAD, BUT YOU GUYS ARE AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE I UNDERSTAND, BUT I DON'T BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPINION OF THE REST OF THE STREET IS.

CAN I SPEAK, FEEL FREE.

SO IT'S EVERYONE ON THE STREET.

AND WE WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS UP A FEW YEARS AGO, WE WERE TOLD WE HAD TO GET A PETITION TOGETHER.

AND SO WE GOT A PETITION. THERE WAS ONE RESIDENT, HE'S ON THE VERY END, AND HE WOULDN'T SIGN IT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT THE TRASH TRUCKS TURNING AROUND IN HIS ROAD.

AND THEN TWO YEARS LATER, HE GOT HIS TRUCK STOLEN AND THEY TOOK OFF AND GOT 288 AND HE COULDN'T FIND HIS TRUCK.

AND SO I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART NOW.

AND THAT'S SO THAT'S THE POINT THAT WE'RE AT AS FAR AS WE'VE WE FOUGHT IT LAST TIME WE DID THE PETITION.

WE WROTE THE LETTER, ALL THE RESIDENTS SIGNED IT.

AND IT GOT US NOWHERE.

AND SO AT THAT POINT, I KNOW IT WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BOARD, A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MAYOR, BUT WE WERE TOLD THEY WOULD NOT CLOSE OUR STREET BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH THOROUGHFARES GOING THROUGH THERE.

SO THEY SAID, WITH ALL OF THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, IT'LL BRING TAX DOLLARS AND THEY CAN BUILD A NEW THOROUGHFARE AND THEN THEY CAN CLOSE OUR STREET.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD THEN BASICALLY, IS THAT IT WAS A MONEY ISSUE, NOT A SAFETY ISSUE.

SO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME SPEAKING TO THAT TOO ON THE LEGAL END.

IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE.

THE STREETS ARE DEDICATED TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY.

SO EVEN IF EVERYONE ON THAT STREET HAS SOME FEELING ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY, A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY BELONGS TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT BELONGS IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON. RIGHT? SO WITHOUT ME LOOKING AT THE DEEDS, THAT'S THE PROBLEM REALLY.

RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC STREET.

SO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OWNS IT, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE STREET.

SO THAT BRINGS IN THE ISSUE OF THE POLICE.

THEN THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE POLICE TO PATROL THE AREA IF THEY'RE DEDICATED TO SERVICE CALLS.

SO IT'S A WHOLE CYCLE OF WHAT WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH BLOCKING OFF THE STREET, BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST GOING TO FORCE THEM DOWN TO BRONCO BEND.

I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO CUT THROUGH.

YEAH. TO CUT THROUGH REGARDLESS.

SO SLOWING THEM DOWN IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

YES. WHAT ABOUT A ONE WAY STREET.

IS A ONE WAY THOROUGHFARE NOT IDEAL? WE HAVE HISTORICALLY DONE THAT IN ANGLETON.

WE WE DID IT OVER THERE WIMBERLEY.

IS IT WIMBERLEY OR ONE OF THOSE ROADS OVER THERE? RIDGECREST. RIDGECREST.

RIDGECREST IS STILL THAT WAY.

YEAH. BUT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AT ONE TIME WERE ALL ONE WAY AS WELL, COMING FROM ACTUALLY FROM COUNCIL.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'D GO THAT ROUTE.

WELL, I MEAN, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC AND THE SPEEDING.

THE ONLY WAY TO SLOWING THEM DOWN IS THE ISSUE.

SO THE SPEED BUMPS, IDEALLY I WILL BE REMISS TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.

I'M SURE HE DOESN'T MIND ME PUTTING THIS INTO THE COUNCIL MEETING, BUT HE SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, HARBIN DRIVE HAS NEVER BEEN FINISHED, AND HE STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ROAD FINISHED ALL THE WAY TO VALDEZ.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY, BUT A TRUE ROAD TO CUT BETWEEN 288 AND AND VALDEZ EVENTUALLY WOULD BE THAT ROAD.

GREYSTONE AND PLANTATION AND NARITA AND ALL THOSE TO GET TO THEIR PLACES.

BUT I DO TO ME RIGHT NOW, I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT SPEED LIMIT IF WE COULD DO IT.

AND THEN PUTTING THE, THE SPEED BUMP IN.

AND NOT AT THE CURB, BUT SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU'RE STRAIGHTAWAYS AND HIGHER SPEED.

BUT THAT WOULD COME FROM WHATEVER THE THE BLACK CAT SAYS.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, BUT.

SO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE BLACK CAT DO THE STUDY BEFORE YOU CONSIDER DOING SPEED BUMPS? FIND OUT WHERE THE WHERE THE SPEED BUMPS SHOULD GO.

I DO SUPPORT A SPEED BUMP ON THAT ROAD.

JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE.

YOU CAN PUT IT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, BECAUSE OUR HOUSES ARE RIGHT AROUND THE CURVE.

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SO THAT WOULD BE THE POINT WHERE THE SPEEDING IS AN ISSUE, BECAUSE YOU REALLY CAN'T SPEED DOWN THE CURVE BECAUSE IT'S TOO NARROW FOR ONE AND TWO, YOU'RE FIGHTING TRAFFIC.

STAY ON THE ROAD. SO IT'S WHEN AROUND THAT CURVE THEY PEEL OFF THE STOP SIGN.

WOULD LIKE GUIDANCE FROM THE COUNCIL ON WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO.

HE'S COUNCILMAN ROBERTS IS ASKING, DO YOU NEED A MOTION I'M ASKING YES.

AND. OKAY, WELL, ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PUT A SPEED BUMP ON PINEY WAY AND BRONCO BEND. SUBJECT TO THE STUDY.

THE CAT NOW SUBJECT TO THE.

WELL. ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THEM ON BRONCO BEND, TOO? WELL, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM.

YEAH, RIGHT.

WE JUST WANT TO PUT SPEED BUMPS IN.

BUT WE GOT THE RESULTS FROM FROM THE BLACK CAT.

SEE WHERE WE NEED IT. CAN YOU MOVE IT? CAN YOU PUT IT ON ON THAT ROAD ON FOR ONE WEEK ON ONE SIDE OR ON THE STRAIGHTAWAY AND THEN ONE TOWARDS THE CURB? WHEREVER THE WHEREVER YOUR POLES ARE THE CLOSEST POLES YOU CAN FIND.

AND LET'S SEE IF THE SPEED LIMITS ARE DIFFERENT.

FIND OUT WHERE OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS AND THEN WE CAN ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

SURE, BUT WE CAN MOVE IT.

AND THEN WE'D HAVE TWO SETS OF DATA.

YES. RIGHT. OKAY.

SO YOU CAN ONLY MAKE THE MOTION FOR PINEY WAY.

BUT WE CAN, AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING, PUT BRONCO BEND [INAUDIBLE].

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PUT SPEED BUMP ON PINEY WAY.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, TO APPLY TO CONSTRUCT A SPEED BUMP ON PINEY WAY, SUBJECT TO THE RESULTS OF THE CAT SPEED STUDY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CAN I JUST ASK HECTOR IF YOU COULD DRIVE DOWN THERE JUST FROM THE GOOGLE MAPS VIEW FROM FEBRUARY OF 2024 I CAN SEE, LIKE, THE AREA THAT THEY'RE POINTING OUT THAT HAS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE. THE DITCH IS LIKE THE CULVERT IS HALFWAY COVERED ON ONE OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.

AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE.

WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE HURT AND IT'S DEFINITELY A SAFETY ISSUE.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20240312-007 EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR THE BRAZOSPORT WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION

[7. Discussion and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20240312-007 expressing support for the Brazosport Water Supply Corporation Reservoir Project; and containing other provisions relating to the subject. ]

RESERVOIR PROJECT AND CONTAINING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M THE ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER FOR WATER AUTHORITY.

WYATT RINGOLD AND I HAVE TIM FINLEY HERE WITH DOW.

WE'RE GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON NEBRASKA WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION RESERVOIR PROJECT.

SO CURRENTLY WITH THE STORAGE THAT WE HAVE NOW IS ABOUT TWO MONTHS.

AND THE STATE'S SAYING THE SURPLUS WATER PLANTS NEED A MINIMUM OF 120 DAYS OF STORAGE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH DOW AND BUILDING A RESERVOIR.

SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.

TIM WILL TALK MORE ABOUT IT.

YEAH I APPRECIATE IT.

SO I THINK IT'S THE THIRD TIME THAT WE'VE TALKED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND RONNIE SENDS HIS REGRETS.

HE HAD A PERSONAL ISSUE TONIGHT.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.

SO WE ARE PROGRESSING ON THE PROJECT.

I THINK WE TALKED SOMETIME EARLY LAST SPRING.

AND ARE MOVING TOWARDS KIND OF A POINT WHERE WE'RE SEEKING KIND OF FINAL FUNDING ACTIVITIES ON IT.

FROM A OVERALL NEED PERSPECTIVE, WE HAD A PRESENTATION BUT DIDN'T REALIZE WE COULDN'T GET IT TO PUT UP ON A ZIP DRIVE, BUT IT'S THERE.

OH, HERE WE GO.

SO WE'LL STEP THROUGH THESE SLIDES REAL QUICK, AND IT'S REALLY JUST A REFRESH ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.

MAYBE NEXT SLIDE. YEAH.

THE BLUE FIELD HERE BASICALLY REPRESENTS KIND OF A MODELING REPRESENTATION OF THE LOCAL WATER SUPPLY FOR BOTH DOW AND BWA.

THE WHITE FIELD THAT KIND OF DROPS DOWN FROM THE HIGH BAR.

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BASICALLY OUR MONTHS THAT ARE PROJECTED WHERE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WATER IN THE BRAZOS RIVER.

AND IN FACT, WE RUN OUT OF THE 2 OR 3 MONTHS WORTH OF LOCAL STORAGE THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE WE AS DOW AND BWA TOGETHER ARE SUBJECT TO WINDOWS OF TIME WHERE WE COULD GO SIX MONTHS WITHOUT WATER.

IT'S BEEN A CONCERN OF OURS NOW SINCE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MID MID 90S.

WE STARTED KIND OF PURSUING A RESERVOIR PROJECT IN 2004.

WE BOUGHT THE LAND IN 2011.

I'VE BEEN WORKING QUITE, QUITE SOME TIME ON PERMITTING.

WE GOT OUR CORE PERMIT IN THE NOVEMBER TIME FRAME, AND WE ARE NOW MOVING, YOU KNOW, HARD TOWARDS KIND OF A POINT WHERE WE CAN START TO CONSTRUCT THE LITTLE GRAPH ON THE BOTTOM OF THE LEFT KIND OF GIVES A DEPICTION OF KIND OF RELIABILITY AS A FUNCTION OF USE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FOLKS CHALLENGE US WITH IS, HEY, CAN'T YOU JUST CUT USE AND GET BACK TO WHOLE AND LARGELY WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IN THAT GRAPH IS WE'RE ABOUT 95% RELIABLE. YOU KNOW, 5% OF THE MONTHS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER.

WE CAN CUT, USE A WHOLE LOT AND CAN'T REALLY SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

THE WAY I LIKE TO DESCRIBE THAT IS IF YOU'VE GOT A BIG RESERVOIR, YOU KNOW, YOU REDUCE USE, YOU CAN ADD MONTHS TO IT.

BUT IF YOU HAVE A THREE MONTH RESERVOIR AND YOU NEED NINE MONTHS, YOU CAN CUT ALL YOU WANT.

YOU CAN'T MAKE THE LAST MONTH.

THAT'S LARGELY THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE IN.

SOME FOLKS WILL ASK, WELL, HOW HAVE YOU BEEN GETTING BY? LARGELY, WE'VE BEEN GETTING BY BY BUYING CONTRACT WATER FROM VRA.

FOR LOTS OF DECADES, THAT WORKED WELL IN THE 90S, THE FORM OF THAT CONTRACT WATER CHANGED TO SPOT WATER INTERRUPTIBLE.

AND FOR A WHILE, THAT STILL WORKED WELL, BUT IT'S KIND OF MIGRATED TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE BUYING KIND OF CONTRACTS ON ONE YEAR TERM.

KNOWING THAT ONE OF THESE YEARS WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EITHER BUY THEM OR GET THEM.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S LARGELY THE DRIVER BEHIND THIS ISSUE.

SO IF YOU STEP TO THE NEXT SLIDE THIS REALLY IS A DEPICTION OF THE NEW RESERVOIR LOCATED NORTH OF EXISTING HARRIS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DECEIVING IN THE PICTURE.

THE SURFACE FOOTPRINT OF THEM ARE ALMOST THE SAME SIZE, ROUGHLY JUST SHY OF 2,000 ACRES.

THE NEW RESERVOIR IS SIGNIFICANTLY DEEPER.

LEVEES THAT ARE ABOUT 30 FOOT TALL, WATER DEPTH, THAT'S ABOUT 28 FOOT.

AND SO WE'LL STORE 50,000 ACRE FOOT WORTH OF WATER IN THE NEW RESERVOIR WHEN THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 22,000 23,000 ACRE FOOT WORTH OF USABLE WATER IN BOTH OF EXISTING HARRIS AND BRAZORIA.

SO THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY TRIPLES THE LOCAL WATER STORAGE.

AND BY DOING THAT IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIUM COLOR BLUE IN THAT CHART REPRESENTS FLOW COMING OUT OF THAT NEW RESERVOIR TO BE ABLE TO MEET KIND OF THOSE TIMES WHEN THE BRAZOS ISN'T FLOWING AND GIVING US ENOUGH WATER.

AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CHART BASICALLY SHOWS US MOVING TO ROUGHLY A 99.8% RELIABILITY.

YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH OUR CURRENT DEMANDS DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF NEW WATER LOCALLY, BUT IT TAKES THE WATER THAT WE HAVE AND MAKES IT RELIABLE ENOUGH FOR THE CITIES TO TO BE ABLE TO COUNT ON THE SURFACE WATER PLANT TO [INAUDIBLE] BE IN THERE.

AND FOR DOW AND INDUSTRY TO COUNT ON THE WATER SUPPLY THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

AND SO WITH THAT NEXT SLIDE, YOU KNOW, THIS JUST KIND OF LAYS OUT THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

SO AGAIN IN NOVEMBER WE GOT OUR CORE PERMIT.

WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME DETAILS OF KIND OF GETTING OUR FINAL TCEQ DAM SAFETY PERMIT.

WE KIND OF GOT A PROVISIONAL LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THEM IN JANUARY, SO YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE LINING UP THERE.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF KIND OF ONBOARDING A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND A CONSTRUCTOR.

WORKING THROUGH KIND OF FINAL COST ESTIMATES.

WE'RE HOPING TO GO TO WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD WITH A FULL [INAUDIBLE] FUND APPLICATION BEGINNING OF MAY.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO BACK UP THAT REQUEST FOR MONEY.

WE'VE TALKED TO NOW FIVE OF BWA'S MEMBER CITIES.

YOU'LL BE THE SIXTH.

WE HAVE FIVE RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT SO FAR.

SO WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING THE PROJECT AND THE NEED.

YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT APPLICATION, COME MAY, WE WILL BASICALLY BE DOING THE FINAL DOCUMENTATION ON THE PROJECT FUNDING IN AUGUST, AND WE WILL BE CONSTRUCTING SOMETIME AROUND THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO THAT'S LARGELY REPRESENTED IN THIS.

AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

YOU KNOW, THIS JUST REALLY REPRESENTS, I THINK, INFORMATION THAT RONNIE HAD PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS BEFORE.

TWO YEARS AGO, I THINK WE HAVE ROUGHLY HAD THIS REPRESENTED AS $1.30 PER THOUSAND GALLONS COST.

WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST JUNE, WE WERE PEGGING IT MORE AT ABOUT $1.24.

AND RONNIE HAD PRESENTED KIND OF A PROGRESSIONAL STEP UP IN, IN COST OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.

WE'VE ACTUALLY MODELED THAT OUT AGAIN.

AND WE HAVE JOE MORROW HERE WHO'S KIND OF DONE THE FINANCIAL MODELING.

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WE'RE PROJECTING IT NOW AT ABOUT $1.31 PER 1000 GALLONS, LARGELY THE SHIFT, ALL DUE TO CHANGES IN INTEREST RATES SINCE WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST YEAR.

BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM AN OVERALL KIND OF CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE PROGRESSION, THINGS HAVE BEEN QUITE STABLE.

WE FEEL QUITE GOOD ABOUT THE BOTH THE DESIGN AND KIND OF WHERE WE STAND THERE.

AND SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS TO TAKE A VOTE AND SUPPORT A RESOLUTION.

AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? GO AHEAD PLEASE.

SO WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE COST TO THE CITY? I SEEM TO REMEMBER WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS, IT WAS LIKE $0.15 PER THOUSAND GALLONS OR SOMETHING.

YEAH, RIGHT. SO.

SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS CHART AND I'LL TRY EASIER JUST TO WALK OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT RONNIE HAD SHOWN HERE WAS IN 2024 WAS $0.15 30. AND.

AND THIS IS RELATIVE.

SO A 15% $0.15 INCREASE $0.15 INCREASE, $0.15 INCREASE, $0.15 INCREASE, YOU KNOW, $0.15 $0.16.

YOU KNOW. SO IT'S BASICALLY PROGRESSING FROM A LITTLE BIT UP KIND OF OVER A PERIOD OF A NUMBER OF YEARS TO GET TO THAT, YOU KNOW, IN WHATEVER THAT YEAR WAS, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 2031, 2032, THE BUCK 24 BUCK, 30 K GALLON.

SO KIND OF AN INCREMENTAL INCREASE OVER TIME.

AND THAT'S ON TOP OF THE BWA OPERATIONAL INCREASE.

CORRECT. SO THIS IS ONLY THE DEBT SERVICE PART OF THE RESERVOIR.

AND I THINK WE HAD TO STEP IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS PAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE WERE IN ON GETTING FUNDING.

SO THAT IS ON TOP OF THE NORMAL O&M.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING PAST Y'ALL AT JOE.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY IS WHY ON A DEBT SERVICE? ARE YOU WHY ARE YOU INCREASING $0.15 EVERY YEAR? IS THE DEBT SERVICE NOT LEVEL OR ARE YOU BACKLOADING THE INTEREST? WHY? WHY WOULD IT BE INCREASING EACH PERIOD AFTER GOING FORWARD? IT'S GOING TO BE A STEADY DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT.

OR DID YOU. YEAH.

AND I CAN PROBABLY SPEAK FEE, WHICH ALLOWS US TO KIND OF ACCRUE SOME MONEY OUT AHEAD OF THE RTO DATE.

YOU KNOW, THAT THEN ALLOWS US THEN TO KIND OF PROGRESS THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION AND ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE BONDING ON AND A BIT MORE SECURE WAY UNTIL LONGER TERM THAN THE PRICE IS CHEAPER. SO INSTEAD OF, SAY, WAITING FOR THE WHOLE THING IS DONE AND THEN GO ON A JUMP OF A BUCK 50 A GALLON, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INCREMENTALLY INCREASING THE PRICES, WE GET THE PROJECT DONE, AND THE END RESULT IS A IS A TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOUR DOLLAR AMOUNT PER GALLON.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.

AND I'LL LET JOE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN THAT STATEMENT.

BUT THAT'S LARGELY HOW THE NUMBERS ARE WORKING.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

YOU DON'T WANT A RATE SHOCK.

IT'S JUST LET'S STEP INTO IT, OKAY.

IT ALSO HELPS BUILD RESERVES FOR THE PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO ABOUT HOW THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, CASH FLOW WAS SET UP.

THE PROJECT IS A, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, A COLLABORATION BETWEEN BWA AND DOW.

AND WE BOTH HAVE OUR RESPECTIVE OFF TAKES.

THE PARTNERSHIP ALLOWS BWA TO DO THE PROJECT AND GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER THAN THEY COULD.

THEY'RE GETTING 50% OF THE OR 15% OF THE STORAGE AND PUMP SERVICE OUT OF THIS.

THEY'RE COVERING 15% OF THE COST.

DOW AND LOCAL INDUSTRIES GETTING 85% OF THE STORAGE AND COVERING 85% OF THE COST.

SO IT'S A STRAIGHT UP DRAW, A LINE, YOU KNOW, COST TO BENEFIT.

WE EACH WE EACH GET THINGS A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN WE WOULD IF WE'D GONE IT ALONE.

FROM A DOW AND INDUSTRY PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE ABLE TO BORROW THE MONEY THROUGH THE STATE AND THE SWIFT FUND LENDING.

THAT'S ABOUT A PERCENTAGE POINT CHEAPER.

YOU KNOW, FROM A BWA PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'VE KIND OF PAPER OUT THE NUMBERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS RELATIVE TO OTHER OPTIONS ARE ARE QUITE SUBSTANTIAL.

QUESTIONS. SO YOUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT WILL BE THE SAME, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE PUTTING A LITTLE PREMIUM IN THERE, STEPPING IT UP TO PUT MONEY BACK FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF, FOR ANY COST OVERRUNS IN THE FUTURE AND ANY TYPE OF EXPANSION. ANY OTHER EXPANSION, ANY OTHER.

SO LET ME TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE SWIFT FUND LENDING PLAYS OUT.

SO SO WITH THE SWIFT PROGRAM, YOU GO IN WITH A PROJECT NUMBER.

IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ANTICIPATING SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF $650 TO $700 MILLION.

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AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THAT MONEY DOWN IN MULTIPLE YEARS WORTH OF BOND ISSUANCES.

SO THE INTENT IS IN THIS FIRST YEAR, WE PROBABLY TAKE DOWN THE BIGGEST CHUNK, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE SPENDING PLAYS OUT.

AS WE EXECUTE THE PROJECT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE DOWN KIND OF THE ADDITIONAL LENDING.

SURE. YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME RISK IN THIS PROJECT TO, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE COST OVERRUNS, THAT SORT OF STUFF.

I'M QUITE CONFIDENT WE'VE GOT A GOOD TEAM THAT THAT WILL BE MANAGED WELL.

THERE'S ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY THEN, YOU KNOW, TO ACTUALLY LEVERAGE THE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN TO BOTH KIND OF COVER RISK SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BORROW AS MUCH.

AND, OR IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AS WE EXECUTE TO, TO DRAW DOWN LESS AT THE BACK END.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE REPRESENTING, YOU KNOW, THE BEST PREDICTION OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE CAN.

BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SOME CASH FLOW AND ACCRUALS AS WE DO THAT REALLY HELPS THE PROJECT BOTH MANAGE RISK AND POSITIONS US TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER IT AT A CHEAPER PRICE PER GALLON IN THE END.

HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES SOME SOME SENSE FOR WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

I'D BE HAPPY TO KIND OF WALK THAT THROUGH WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU AND YOUR, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER AT SOME POINT, IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF KNOW MORE OF THE DETAILS ON HOW WE'RE DOING THAT STRATEGICALLY.

OKAY. YOU SAID SOMETHING A WHILE AGO ALSO, THIS ISN'T YOU SAID IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU SAID WHILE THE RESERVOIR IS BEING BUILT, YOU'LL HAVE A CERTAIN CERTAIN PART OF THE RESERVOIR YOU CAN'T TOUCH.

THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER YOU CAN TAKE.

YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT IN BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE EXISTING ONE.

OKAY. YEAH. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE NEW ONE WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE OLD ONE.

YEAH. AND SO, SO, SO THE EXISTING RESERVOIRS ARE SET UP WITH, THEY'RE CALLED SIPHONS TO PULL THE WATER OUT.

RIGHT. AND SO EXISTING BRAZORIA RESERVOIRS, YOU KNOW, NAMEPLATE, SOMETHING LIKE 21,000 ACRE FOOT WITH THE SIPHONS, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DRAW 15 OR 16,000, RIGHT? DOESN'T MEAN YOU MIGHT.

IF YOU GET REALLY CREATIVE, YOU CAN PULL IN PUMPS AND YOU CAN KIND OF PUMP THAT DOGGONE THING EMPTY.

SAME THING WITH HARRIS.

SO HARRIS NAMEPLATES ABOUT 10,000, YOU KNOW, WITH SIPHONS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET OUT SIX.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT HEEL IS THERE, BUT IT'S NOT VERY FUNCTIONAL WATER.

SURE. THIS NEW RESERVOIR IS ACTUALLY BUILT, YOU KNOW, WITH KIND OF MORE OF A DISCHARGE TOWER THAT YOU SEE ON A DAM AND AN OUTLET PIPE THAT'S INTENDED TO BE ABLE TO RUN IT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FULL, FULL TO EMPTY.

RIGHT? SO, SO WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRY AND MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF USEFUL WATER THAT'S IN THIS.

THERE'S PROBABLY STILL A LITTLE BIT OF HIDDEN WATER.

AND THAT WHEN WE BUILD THIS THING WE'LL DIG PITS OUT THERE AND THOSE WILL FILL TOO.

AND SO IN A REAL BAD DROUGHT, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THAT TO COVER THAT LAST POINT 2%, YOU KNOW, GO, GO RENT, RENT A BUNCH OF PUMPS AND SEE IF YOU CAN'T DRAG A LITTLE BIT MORE WATER OUT OF THAN WHAT YOU HAD DESIGNED.

BUT BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.

ALL OF US SITTING UP HERE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE [INAUDIBLE] WATER AUTHORITY IS.

BUT I NEED TO NEED YOU TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE BRAZOSPORT WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION IS A DIFFERENT ENTITY.

I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION.

SO SO AS WE WORK TO KIND OF PUT THIS OVERALL APPROACH TOGETHER, WE NEEDED A VEHICLE THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ENABLED US TO GO BORROW THE MONEY IN A WAY THAT FUNDAMENTALLY BOTH B2B AND [INAUDIBLE].

YOU KNOW, THE AVENUE THAT WE CAME UP WITH FOR THAT IS TO CREATE THE WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION.

IT'S BASICALLY A FINANCIAL VEHICLE THAT WILL HAVE THREE BWA BOARD MEMBERS AND TWO PEOPLE REPRESENTING DOW.

AND I'M ONE OF THOSE TWO YOU KNOW, AND IT'S SET UP BASICALLY WITH A GOVERNANCE DOCUMENT WHERE THE YOU KNOW, THE DECISIONS LARGELY, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FOR ANYTHING THAT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE ORIGINAL DEAL STRUCTURE.

SO, SO THE BWA ACTUALLY OWNS THE WHOLE THEY HAVE 15% OF IT CONTRACTED OR PERPETUITY.

INDUSTRY HAS 85% KIND OF CONTRACTED AND PERPETUITY.

AND THE VEHICLE ALLOWS US TO DRIVE THAT STRUCTURE, BORROW THAT MONEY AND MANAGE IT ON BEHALF OF BWA AND LOCAL INDUSTRY.

SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THE SYNOPSIS OF WHAT'S WHAT'S THERE WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION STRUCTURE.

I'VE LISTENED TO YOUR PRESENTATIONS A FEW TIMES, AND I THINK YOU'VE EXPLAINED THAT TO ME IN THE PAST, BUT IT KIND OF I APPRECIATE IT.

IT TOOK US A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PARTNER AND THE WAY TO DO THIS.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF IT'S TERMED A P3 MODEL, KIND OF A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP MODEL.

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YOU KNOW, THAT LARGELY, I BELIEVE, GOING TO HAVE TO BE EXECUTED IN OTHER PLACES AS WELL.

I MEAN, TEXAS HAS SERIOUS WATER ISSUES, YOU KNOW, AND THE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES TO SOLVE THEM AREN'T CHEAP PROJECTS.

INDUSTRY IS A BIG USER.

THE CITIES ARE GROWING, YOU KNOW, FIGURING OUT A WAY TO KIND OF CREATE THE SECURE WATER SUPPLY, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MEET THE GROWING NEEDS OF THE STATE ARE IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, [INAUDIBLE] BEEN AFTER THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

YOU KNOW, THE PARTNERSHIPS WORKED WELL, BOTH WHEN WE CREATED BWA AND AS WELL AS, I THINK, WHERE WE'RE AT NOW OR HELP CREATE BWA.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT BWA WAS ACTUALLY CREATED IN PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE SEVEN CITIES AND DOW IN RESPONSE TO OVER PUMPING AND GROUNDWATER SUBSIDENCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORKED WITH BWA TO GET THAT SET UP IN THE 1980S AND I THINK IT SERVICED THE CITIES.

WELL YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR US AS WELL.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME YEARS AGO WE ELECTED TO START BUYING POTABLE WATER, YOU KNOW, PORTION FROM BWA CREATED CASH FLOW FOR THEM AND HELPED US OFF AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, I SEE THE PARTNERSHIP AS A VERY, VERY FAVORABLE THING FOR INDUSTRY AND LOCAL CITIES AS WELL.

OTHER QUESTIONS. TOOTING HORN HERE.

I'VE BEEN A SUPPORTER OF THE [INAUDIBLE] PORT WATER AUTHORITY SINCE ITS INITIATION.

I LOOK BACK NOW AT SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE ORIGINAL NEAL ANDREWS MR. SCOTT MR. BUELL, THAT WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THIS ALL UP.

AND THEN LITTLE DID THEY KNOW WHAT THIS WAS GOING TO DEVELOP INTO NOW.

THEN WITH THE HELP OF REPRESENTATIVE JOHN WILLIE TO, TO GET THIS LEGISLATION PASSED BACK IN 85.

AND AGAIN, WE WERE RIGHT AT THAT TIME JUST ALWAYS DEALING WITH A LITTLE BIT OF WATER THAT EVERYBODY NEEDED.

AND NOW WE'RE FACING ISSUES THAT ARE UPSTREAM FROM US THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY HURTING US BAD.

I'LL SAY, I HOPE PEOPLE THINK THAT, WELL, ABOUT US.

AND, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS WHEN THIS RESERVOIR WAS PAID OFF TO BE HONEST, LIKE, I MOVED DOWN FROM MICHIGAN IN 2002 BECAUSE FREEPORT HAD AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING AND WE NEEDED TO BUILD STORAGE, YOU KNOW, EVEN INSIDE IT NOW, PEOPLE KIND OF LOOKED AT US CROSS EYED AND SAID, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE, YOU KNOW? AND SINCE THEN, I MEAN, WE'VE KIND OF PUT THIS ON THE BOOKS.

AND LCRA BUILT THE ELAINE CITY OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIR.

SO DIFFERENT KIND OF RESERVOIR.

INSTEAD OF BUILDING ON A RIVER, YOU KNOW, THEY BUILD A RING DIKE RESERVOIR.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE BEING TALKED ABOUT DOWN TOWARDS VICTORIA, YOU KNOW, AND SO BECAUSE IN OUR STATE, A LOT OF THE RESERVOIRS KIND OF SIT MIDWAY UP TO STATE SOME OF THE BEST SHOWS IN THE RIVER.

THE BEST RAINFALL COMES IN BELOW EXISTING RESERVOIRS, AND THAT'S A BIT OF A CHUNK OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS AS WELL.

WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE 75 TO 80% OF THE TIME, TYPICALLY YOU'VE GOT WATER TO FILL THIS THING.

AND WE'RE LARGELY DEALING WITH DEALING WITH KIND OF SEASONAL DROUGHT ISSUES, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS MAYBE.

AND A LOT OF IT, IT LASTS TO A YEAR.

BUT BUT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU CAN CAPTURE WATER IN A FEW MONTHS OF THE YEAR, YOU CAN STORE IT.

AND IT KIND OF HELPS THE OVERALL BALANCE.

WE DO GET THE BENEFIT OF HIS WET AS WE ARE DOWN HERE.

WE DO GET THE BENEFIT OF WHAT GOD JUST BRINGS DOWN ON US TO HELP FILL IT UP.

GOOD. OTHER QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL. THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION, SIR WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20240312-007 SUPPORTING THE RESERVOIR WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION RESERVOIR PROJECT.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH. I'LL JUST ONE LAST THING.

I'LL THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

[INAUDIBLE] AND SO AS THIS WALK FORWARD, WE'RE HOPING TO GET FUNDING IN AUGUST.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD EXPECT AT SOME POINT WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITHIN A YEAR OR SO AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON PROGRESSING.

I DO HAVE A FEW FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS REAL QUICK.

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WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T GET FUNDING? YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING, YOU KNOW, WE STEP BACK AND WE'LL PROBABLY TRY AND FIGURE OUT A PLAN B.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT WE LARGELY FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON TRACK TO DO IT THIS YEAR.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'LL DELAY THINGS PROBABLY AT LEAST A YEAR.

WE PROBABLY MAKE ONE MORE RUN AT TRYING TO GET SWIFT FUNDING.

BUT I THINK WE'RE OVER THAT.

I THINK WE WILL. YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THINGS PROGRESS ON THE TRACK THERE AT WHAT WE'RE WE'RE IN THE I THINK WE'RE IN THE 95% PROBABILITY OF LANDING FUNDING THIS YEAR.

IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE HOW WE PROGRESS, WHO PROVIDES THE FUNDING.

THE FUNDING BASICALLY IS COMING THROUGH A LOAN FROM THE STATE.

IT'S CALLED THE SWIFT FUND.

IN 2000, I'LL SAY ROUGHLY 11.

THE STATE MOVED $2 BILLION OUT OF ITS RAINY DAY FUND TO HELP SET UP A BANK TO COMPLETE LARGE WATER SUPPLY PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

AND THEY BASICALLY LEVERAGED THAT 2 BILLION AS COLLATERAL TO MAKE ABOUT $25 BILLION WORTH OF LOANS.

SO IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, USC IS BORROWING MONEY FROM THAT SWIFT PROGRAM THROUGH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD THAT DOES ALL OF THE BETTING ON THE LENDING AND BWAH BWAH AND THE RESIDENTS ARE ONLY GOING TO GET 15% OF THIS WATER.

YEAH. THEY'LL BE THEY'LL BE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING 15% OF THE STORAGE BENEFIT OUT OF THE RESERVOIR, 15% OF THE PUMPING, LARGELY TO MAKE EXISTING WATER RIGHTS RELIABLE FOR THEM.

OKAY. AND THEN COVERING 15% OF THE COST AND COVERING 15% OF THE COST.

SO THEY'RE GETTING WHAT THEIR PORTION OF THE WATER IS.

YEAH. OKAY.

AND THEN I GUESS MY LAST THING IS TO BUE THIS PERSON.

MR.. THE YOU KNOW, I REALLY HOPE THAT WE STAY ON TRACK WITH THIS AND YOU'RE VERY MINDFUL OF THE COST THAT THESE RESIDENTS ARE, ARE SPENDING.

WATER IS NOT CHEAP. WE ALL KNOW THAT.

IT KEEPS GOING UP.

AND, YOU KNOW, PORT MORRIS GETS TO LISTEN TO ME ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S IT'S GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO PAY THESE BILLS WITH THE COST INCREASES COMING FROM BWA. AND THAT'S ALL I HEAR FROM MOST RESIDENTS.

SO PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THAT IN THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

AND LET'S BE VERY GOOD STEWARDS OF THEIR THEIR MONEY.

THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

YOU WANT TABLE EIGHT AND TALK ABOUT AN EXECUTIVE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP IT.

I'D LIKE YOU TO MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW.

SO SO OR YOU CAN MOVE IT TO THE OTHER ONE BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IT'S UP TO YOU. OR WE CAN MOVE THE OTHER ONE TO THIS ONE.

YOU BOTH. ABSOLUTELY.

AS LONG AS YOU MAKE SURE YOU ALL ANNOUNCE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

SO YOU CAN, I GUESS, MOVE THIS, THIS ITEM INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

PLUS WE CAN DEAL WITH THE ONE AT THE END OF THE MEETING IF YOU WANT TO DO BOTH AT ONCE.

I'D RATHER DO THE REST OF THESE AND THEN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH PEOPLE OUT.

OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, DISCUSSION OF AN UPDATE REGARDING REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION RFQ 2020 4-01 HENDERSON ROAD DRAINAGE PROJECT.

[9. Discussion and update regarding Request for Qualification (RFQ) 2024-01 Henderson Road and Drainage Project. ]

I'LL START. OKAY.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MOVING HENDERSON FORWARD.

HENDERSON ROAD FORWARD IS A PROJECT.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE ENGINEER GROUPS ASK, SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT IDEAS AND WE'VE GOT GRANTS OR KNOW OF GRANTS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. TO SIMPLIFY THE PROJECT, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE ONE, ONE GROUP IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT.

AND BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE GROUP IN CHARGE.

AND THEN EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A FEDERAL GRANT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RFQ FOR THE FEDERAL GRANT.

SO I MEAN, THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION.

BUT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE COMPETING ENGINEERING GROUPS WITH IDEAS.

AND SO WHO'S GOING TO Y'ALL GOING TO GET STUCK WITH ARBITRATING WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO.

AND SO THE DISCUSSION AND TONIGHT'S WELL, DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT IS WE SOLICITED FOR THREE RFQS.

I'M SORRY WE SOLICITED FOR RFQS.

WE HAVE THREE.

WE'RE GOING TO HOLD A BOARD.

BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WE HAVE A POTENTIAL DISQUALIFICATION.

SO I JUST WANTED THE COUNCIL BE AWARE OF THAT.

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SO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH RFQ PROCESS, THE BOARD AND THE SELECTION BY COUNCIL.

YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF WHAT, I GUESS, WHAT WHAT THE PROTOCOL IS AND WHAT THE RULES ARE.

AND I'M GOING TO DEFER ALL LEGAL QUESTIONS TO OUR ATTORNEY.

SO I THINK GENERALLY, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY RECEIVED THE MEMO THAT THE ATTORNEY IN MY OFFICE PREPARED.

SO I THINK WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS THAT THE TEX-DOT GUIDELINES REQUIRE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE GOING TO SEEK FEDERAL FUNDS OR FUNDS THAT MAY COMPRISE OF SOME COMPONENT OF WHICH ARE FEDERAL FUNDS TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL LAW.

AND THAT'S 23 CFR 172.

SO I THINK WHAT IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO IS AS LONG AS THE CITY IS GOING TO GO OUT FOR POTENTIAL FUNDING, WHETHER IT BE A GRANT OR SOME OTHER KIND OF FUNDING THAT A COMPONENT OF WHICH IS FEDERAL FUNDS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BUMP INTO THIS FEDERAL LAW THAT BASICALLY DISQUALIFIES YOUR CITY ENGINEER FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

SO IF YOU WERE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO TO DO HENDERSON ROAD AND DID NOT HAVE TO BORROW MONEY THAT MAY COMPRISE A FEDERAL FUNDS, THIS WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.

BUT AS LONG AS IT APPEARS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THAT KIND OF GRANT OR SOME KIND OF FUND FUNDS THAT COULD COMPRISE A FEDERAL MONEY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SATISFY THE CFR.

WE CAN'T DO THAT.

SO AS A RESULT IT'S MY OFFICE'S RECOMMENDATION THAT HDR BE DISQUALIFIED.

NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, AS YOU KNOW, HDR IS ALREADY DOING WORK ON HENDERSON ROAD.

YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN THEM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND IN THE END, THEY ARE YOUR APPOINTED CITY ENGINEER.

SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE INVOLVED, IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T LIMIT YOUR ABILITY TO GET FEDERAL MONEY.

OKAY. I HEAR THAT THE WE'VE BEEN SAYING WE'RE GOING OUT FOR FEDERAL MONEY FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY RECEIVED MUCH.

THIS WILL COME INTO PLAY IF WE'RE SELECTED TO RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDING.

CORRECT. THEN YOU THEN YOU CAN CALL AN AUDIBLE THEN.

RIGHT. POSSIBLY NOT.

WELL, SO THE PROBLEM IS FOR, FOR FOR LET'S JUST USE EACH H-GAC THAT IN ORDER TO SUBMIT FOR FUNDING, WHETHER IT BE CALLED A GRANT OR BY VIRTUE OF FUNDING, THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT THE DISTRIBUTING TO CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DEFINED PROJECT.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHY YOU NEED THIS ENGINEER THAT YOU'RE PROCURING, THAT YOU NEED TO GET THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS.

AND THEN ONCE YOU GET THOSE PARAMETERS THAT PROJECT DEFINITION.

I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. SORRY, CECIL, I'M SURE YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT THE PROJECT ITSELF, THEN YOU TAKE THAT AND SUBMIT IT TO ANY OF THE ENTITIES THAT MAY GIVE THE FUNDING TO THE CITY.

SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUERY IS, OKAY, SO YOU GET THAT FAR.

AND THEN IF YOU NEVER GET THE FEDERAL FUNDING, YOU STILL HAVE THE DEFINED PROJECT, YOU KNOW, SO YOU STILL HAVE CONTROL OVER EVERY STAGE OF HOW YOU APPROACH YOUR PROCUREMENT.

BUT FOR THIS INITIAL STAGE, IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT YOU'RE THAT HDR NOT BE USED.

IF A GRANT POPS UP NEXT MONTH THROUGH WHOEVER AND WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT, THEN WE HAVE TO.

THE REASON WHY I'M JUST WE'RE TRYING TO TRYING TO DO THIS NOW.

THEN WE HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH THE HOOPS TO TRY TO GET AN ENGINEER APPROVED AND THEN APPLY FOR THE GRANT, WHICH IS NOT AN EASY PROCESS.

I'LL SIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE WHERE HDR IS RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A BIT DISTASTEFUL.

PUTTING IN ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT AND LEADING THE CLIENT BY THE HAND RIGHT UP TO THE VERGE OF GETTING THE PROJECT FUNDED, AND THEN FIND OUT YOU DON'T GET TO DO THE PROJECT IF YOU GET THAT FUNDING.

WELL, THAT'S. FROM AN ENGINEERING STAND, FROM THE ENGINEER'S STANDPOINT OR ANY OTHER PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT THAT MATTER.

THAT'S. DOESN'T TASTE GOOD.

[01:10:04]

OKAY, JUST TO BE HONEST, IT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.

HAVING HAVING HAD SOME DEALINGS WITH FEDERAL MONIES, FEDERAL GRANTS, FEDERAL, FEDERAL, FEDERAL.

UNCLE SAM IS GOING TO GET HIS HOOKS IN YOU.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU DO THINGS THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT DO, HAVE TO DO IF YOU'RE USING YOUR OWN MONEY.

I'VE SAID MORE THAN A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THOSE GRANTS COME WITH STIPULATIONS THAT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO MEET.

SO. THEY HAVE THEIR REASONS FOR DOING THAT.

I'M SURE IN THEIR MIND IT'S GREAT AND PROTECTIVE OF THE US CITIZENRY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT.

AND YOU COULD WE COULD GO THROUGH THIS RFQ.

SELECT SOMEONE WHICH WOULD BE OTHER THAN HDR.

GO PLOW DOWN THIS ROAD TOWARD TRYING TO GET FUNDING IN HOPES OF GETTING FUNDING RIGHT.

AND HENDERSON ROAD IS STILL IN INTO DISREPAIR THAN IT IS TODAY.

AND IF WE DON'T GET FUNDING, THEN WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, NOW WE'LL GO TO PLAN B, WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME MONEY.

TO ME, A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST IS NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.

I CAN TAKE A SHOTGUN APPROACH TO 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT THINGS AND COME UP WITH 20 OR 30 DIFFERENT PROBLEMS THAT I FORECAST.

DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE REAL.

JUST LIKE THIS. IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYBODY'S GOING TO GIVE US FUNDING.

I THINK THAT'S A BRIDGE THAT WE CROSS LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

IF YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE NEXT ITEMS ON HERE IS GOING TO BE THE CEO AND WE HAVE 5.3 MILLION THERE.

LET'S SAY WE WENT FORWARD WITH HDR AND THEY DESIGNED THIS.

AND THEY SAY OKAY THE FIRST PHASE WE CAN DO FOR 3 OR 4 MILLION WHATEVER GET STARTED.

THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE DECIDE OKAY.

AND THE NEXT BOND MAYBE WE HAVE, MAYBE WE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT FOR THIS FEDERAL GRANT THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED.

DO WE STILL HAVE TO SWITCH GEARS AND HAVE IT REDESIGNED, OR DO WE JUST TAKE THE DESIGN AND GO, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS ALREADY THE PLAN.

THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED.

AND LET'S SAY LET'S SAY WE WENT WITH A DIFFERENT GROUP.

ARE WE ARE WE STILL ELIGIBLE? I REALLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE FUNDING OPPORTUNITY IS DIFFERENT.

ALL I KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT TEXDOT, WHEN THEY FUND AND HAVE A COMPONENT OF FEDERAL, THEN THEY HAVE THIS REQUIREMENT THAT 23 CFR TWO NEEDS TO BE MET.

SO THAT I KNOW THAT'S CONCRETE, RIGHT? I KNOW THAT FOR SURE.

BUT I MEAN, I, I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAINTY THAT THERE'S NOT ANOTHER METHODOLOGY, THAT THERE'S NOT ANOTHER WAY TO GET THE FUNDING.

I CAN'T SAY THAT WITH CERTAINTY.

I'M JUST ASKING CHICKEN OR THE EGG IF WE HAVE IF WE ALREADY HAD IT GOING, AND THEN WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT FOR THIS.

IF WE MEET CFR TWO REQUIREMENT BY HIRING THE DIFFERENT GROUP AND FINISHING IT OFF WITH THE GRANT, ARE WE ELIGIBLE? SO I THINK THAT WOULD REQUIRE VERY NARROWLY DEFINING THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT THE ENGINEERING GROUP WOULD DO THAT YOU HIRE NOW AND, YOU KNOW, THE KICK IN THE HEAD ON THAT, I GUESS, IS THAT THE PERSON THAT KNOWS WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS ARE OR YOUR CITY ENGINEER.

SO YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE ENGINEERING FRONT.

AND I'D NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY THE FUNDING MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO ADVISE YOU.

BUT, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY THIS IS COMING TO YOU, AND IT'S YOUR YOUR CALL.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT THIS WAY, THEN WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND FIND ANOTHER WAY.

OR IF YOU WANT TO NARROW, IF YOU WANT TO HOLD OFF, I DON'T RECALL THERE WERE NO DATES IN THE THIS PROCUREMENT.

SO WHEN YOU DID THE REQUEST, THERE WAS NO DATE THAT SAID YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION BY X X DAY.

NOW, YOU DO STATUTORILY HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN A SET AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT YOU'VE GOT TIME.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WHEN YOU DO THIS DECISION, THIS THIS DECISION MAKING PROCESS, IN WHICH ENGINEERING COMPANY THAT YOU ALSO DEFINE THE PARAMETERS TO ENABLE YOU TO DO SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD.

[01:15:03]

THAT'S ANOTHER KETTLE OF FISH THAT NO ONE HAS TALKED TO ME ABOUT BEFORE.

SO THERE MAY BE OTHER SOLUTIONS.

IF YOU WANT TO GIVE MY OFFICE THE TIME TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY MAY BE.

BUT ON THIS NARROW ISSUE, THIS NARROW QUESTION THAT WE WERE PRESENTED ON WHETHER OR NOT HDR WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO BE THE ENGINEER FOR THE PRIMARY DESIGN AND ENGINEERING THAT'S REQUIRED BY TEXDOT.

IT'S A PROBLEM. I CAN SAY THAT FOR SURE.

OKAY. I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE REQUESTING QUALIFICATIONS FOR AN ENGINEER THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE US FROM THIS POINT. TO THE FINISHED PRODUCT.

STRIPING PAINTED ON THE LIGHTS WORKING AND ALL THAT.

AND I GUESS MAYBE.

AM I OUT OF. WAS THAT THE WRONG THINKING? NO, NO. THAT'S WHAT WE PREFER.

SO IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE YOU.

YOUR INTENT WAS NOT JUST FOR THE PRIMARY DESIGN AND ENGINEERING I'VE MY UNDERSTANDING, WE WERE REQUESTING QUALIFICATIONS FOR AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WAS GOING TO COME IN AND TAKE IT FROM RIGHT HERE, RIGHT ON THROUGH THE END OF THE PROJECT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE FULL DESIGN SCOPE, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

WE'VE HDR PREPARED A HYDROLOGY STUDY, A TRAFFIC STUDY.

THEY KNOW WHAT THE INTERSECTIONS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

OR POTENTIALLY WE COULD HAVE SOME MORE REFINEMENT.

THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO BEING READY TO START.

NUTS AND BOLTS DESIGN.

GETTING A BIDDING, BIDDING BIDDING PACKAGE TOGETHER FOR THE WHOLE THING.

PART OF IT. SOME SECTION OF WHATEVER THEY.

AND THEN GO TO GO TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION.

WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO GET THE MONEY TO DO ALL THIS.

RIGHT? THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE US DELAY THIS PROJECT WAITING FOR FEDERAL FUNDS OR DOING SOMETHING ELSE.

I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED, WE'VE BEEN MOVING FORWARD AND COUNCILMAN BOOTH SAID.

WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON.

WE'VE HAD WE'VE ALREADY THREE DIFFERENT STUDIES I THINK HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE.

I THINK DRAINAGE WAS DONE OVER THERE.

THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND I MEAN, IT'S WE'RE CLOSE TO GETTING MOVING, BUT WE'RE NOT DELAYING ANYTHING.

I MEAN, WE CAN STILL SPEND OUR MONEY AS WE GET SPECIFIC CERTIFICATION OR BONDS OR LIKE CECIL SAID, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS AND, AND ALL THAT. THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING US FROM DOING ANYTHING WE WANT TO DO.

IT JUST MEANS WE'RE DOING IT 100% OF OUR OWN, NOT THROUGH THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND, THROUGH THE HDC, WHATEVER TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM THAT IS THROUGH HDR.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO LOSE MOMENTUM.

I WANT TO SEE US MOVING DIRT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YEAH. WELL, AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY HIRED HDR TO DO THE THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION STUFF.

SO THAT'S AS SOON AS WE GET THE BOND THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.

AND. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HENRY'S ROAD UP.

PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO TO THE GO TO THE VOTERS AND TELL THEM, LOOK, IT'S GOING TO COST APPROXIMATELY THIS MUCH MONEY.

WOULD YOU SUPPORT A BOND ELECTION TO HAVE A BOND ELECTION AND SAID, LOOK, WE NEED THIS MANY MILLION DOLLARS.

AND BASED UPON THE CURRENT CURRENT SITUATION THAT'S GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES BY X CENTS ON 100.

A LOT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT X IS.

YEAH. BUT.

AND IF I SAY NO, THEN WE JUST GO BACK TO SOME OTHER FIGURE OUT.

BUT. BUT YOU'RE NOT SAYING STOP THE 5 MILLION THAT WERE.

NO, I'M NOT SAYING STOP.

WE CAN IF WE CAN DO STUFF.

SO FAR, EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE HAS BEEN PROFITABLE TO US.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO THROW ANY OF THIS AWAY.

IT'S GOING TO GET USED.

AND IT'S IT'S GOOD INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP WHOEVER THE ENGINEER IS WOULD HAVE TO BE DOING IT.

SO. THERE'S NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM.

THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S AN UPDATE.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE US MOVING DIRT.

THAT'S. THAT'S ALL.

[01:20:01]

I'M. THAT'S MY OPINION.

WELL, AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT IN ONE OF THE NEXT AGENDA ITEMS IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FUTURE BOND THAT WILL INCLUDE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HENDERSON ROAD AND OTHER ROAD PROJECTS. SO RIGHT.

AND IN HIS RAGE RAGE YOU THE WORK.

WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE FUNDING SOURCE SO THEY CAN DO THAT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER TEN.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON PROJECTS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE 2024 CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

[10. Discussion and possible action on projects to be included in the 2024 Certificates of Obligation. ]

SO THIS IS THE TEN MAIN BOND THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

I JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE NEIL HERE.

WE. SO FIRE STATION THREE ANNEX IN THE CURRENT BOND, WE BID THAT OUT. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A $500,000 ISH PROJECT.

HE CAME IN BETWEEN 900,000 AND 1.2 MILLION, WHICH WE SAID IS NOT IN THE SCHEME OF THAT BOND.

I JUST WANT I KNOW WHEN WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS, WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE DOING IT IN THIS BOND ALSO, BUT SOME NEW INFORMATION. AND SO I JUST WANT A LITTLE CLARITY BEFORE WE GO INTO THE DISCUSSION.

RIGHT NOW, WE FOUND A PREFAB BUILDING COMPANY THAT WE THINK WE CAN DO EVERYTHING NOW FOR ABOUT $500,000 USING A PREFAB CONCEPT, SAME SIZE CONCRETE PAD ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS FOR THE $500,000 PRICE.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO WHAT I CALL, LIKE SPLIT THE PROJECT AND DO CONCRETE PAD THIS BOND, THIS PAST BOND AND THE BUILDING, ETC.

IN THE FUTURE BOND.

AND SO IF YOU ALL ARE KIND OF OKAY WITH THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR THE OK TO BID OUT AT WHATEVER POINT SO WE FOLLOW THE YOUR ALL'S PRIORITIES ON THAT ON BUILDING OUT.

BUT THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND EXECUTE FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE.

CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YOU CAME UP HERE TONIGHT.

WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET TO SAY SOMETHING.

I COULDN'T PASS UP THE OPPORTUNITY.

MAYOR COUNCIL, THANKS FOR FOR HAVING ME.

BRIEFLY. WHAT? WHAT THIS CONSISTS OF IS ADDITIONAL REAL ESTATE RESTORING EQUIPMENT AND TRUCKS.

IF YOU NOTICE, YOU DRIVE BY STATION ONE, YOU'LL SEE EVERY NIGHT WE'VE GOT TRUCKS SITTING OUTSIDE.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR THAT.

ORIGINALLY, THIS WAS GOING TO BE AT STATION ONE.

AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR MORE THAN I AM, PROBABLY WITH THE PATH THAT WE TOOK TO TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

THE IDEA OF USING A PREFAB BUILDING FOR THIS IS PERFECT.

IT'S IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

IT'S A METAL BUILDING.

IT'S A RED IRON BUILDING OR GALVANIZED BUILDING WITH INSULATION AND STUFF ON IT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL IT CONSISTS OF.

IT'S NOTHING MORE THAN THAT ELECTRICITY.

SO IT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD RECOMMEND IT FOR A MAJOR PROJECT, BUT FOR THIS IT'S IT'S A PERFECT FIT AND IT FITS OUR BUDGET.

SO. THAT'S IT.

BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO THIS FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER REHAB.

SO INSTEAD OF LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECT CAME IN WITH THE 10 MILLION WITH THE CHIEFS TO 4 MILLION.

WE THINK WITH THE 1.5 WE CAN DO AGAIN, SORT OF PREFAB BUILDING WITH THE CONCRETE AND, AND GET SOLUTIONS DONE FOR THE ANIMAL CONTROL.

MAKE SURE, ENSURE THAT THE PROPOSALS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING FOR THIS, OR COME ALONG WITH ENGINEERED, SIGNED AND SEALED DRAWINGS THAT WE CAN IN TURN TAKE TO THE WINDSTORM PEOPLE AND INSURANCE PEOPLE, AND WE CAN, I BELIEVE IT DID.

I BELIEVE THIS WAS ENGINEERED DRAWINGS TO MEET SATISFY CURRENT DEFINITION OF ENGINEERED DRAWINGS AND MINE ARE DIFFER.

SURE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TEXAS LICENSED ENGINEER SEAL ON THERE AND FOUNDATION AND THE FRAME AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF, RIGHT? THEY'RE USED TO DOING THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. QUESTION ON THE YOU CAN DO IT FOR 500,000.

WHAT WAS FOUND WAS ROUGHLY THE 500,000 MARK.

SO. DOES THIS LIMIT YOU ON THE FUTURE? NO. IT'S SAME.

SAME FOOTPRINT, SAME LAYOUT, SAME EXPANSION CAPABILITY.

DOWN THE ROAD, EVERYTHING IS IDENTICAL.

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OKAY. AND LIVE.

I GUESS THE LIFESPAN OF THE BUILDING WILL HOLD UP AS WELL.

YEAH. IT'S A IT'S A LIKE FOR LIKE ALL THE WAY AROUND AGAIN, THIS IS SUCH A SIMPLE CONSTRUCTION.

I DON'T WANT TO DOWNPLAY IT TOO MUCH, BUT IT'S SIMPLE ENOUGH AS A WHAT IS STATION THREE'S CONSTRUCTION COMPOSITION.

IT'S A IT'S A RED IRON BUILDING.

YEAH. WITH A WITH A BRICK FACADE.

SAME THAT WE HAD.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON THIS ONE? THIS WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE A SIMILAR I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS ON THE END GAME IS ON THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THAT COSMETICALLY LOOK THE SAME ESTHETICALLY THE SAME OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

SO THE FOCUS OF THIS MEETING IS THE PROJECT LIST, YOU SEE, AND THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.

WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AS A STAFF.

WE JUST NEED YOU ALL TO SAY WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT DEFINING INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.

WE'RE JUST DEFINING AN END AMOUNT.

AND SO THAT THE BONDED ATTORNEY AND OUR FINANCE FOLKS CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT ALL WORKS OUT.

CHIEF ON THE 2 MILLION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EXPANSION.

I'M JUST AFRAID THAT WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING WE DID AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

CAN WE GET THAT DONE IN 2 MILLION? JUST WHAT ARE YOUR IDEAS? I JUST WANT TO HEAR YOUR IDEAS BEFORE WE GO FORWARD.

ARE YOU SO.

SO WE HAVEN'T SAT DOWN AS A STAFF TO DO THE FEASIBILITY AND TO AND TO DO THE FUNCTIONALITY PIECE, BUT SO.

THE INSIDE INTERIOR OF THAT BUILDING ARE NOT SUPPORT WALLS.

AND SO WE CAN MOVE ANYTHING, ANYWHERE WITH WITHOUT AFFECTING THE BUILDING.

SURE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE PUTTING INTERVIEW ROOMS UP FRONT RIGHT NOW.

YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE SOMEONE IN AND, YOU KNOW, ESCORT THEM.

THAT KIND OF STUFF. OR A PERSON IS, YOU KNOW, HALFWAY DOWN THE HALL ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU KNOW, MOVE THOSE PEOPLE, MOVE THE DISPATCH BACK SO THEY'RE MORE INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING.

SO THERE'S SOME FUNCTIONALITY THINGS.

IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, WE GOT CELLEBRITE TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, TWO PLUS YEARS AGO.

WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO KEEP THAT AS NECESSARILY DO THAT.

WELL, AS FAR AS EVIDENCE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

BUT WE HAVEN'T HIRED SOMEONE TO TILL THE BOND PASSES TO COME IN AND HELP US WORK THROUGH THAT EXERCISE OF MOVING THE SQUARES AROUND THE BUILDING.

OR, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED MORE OFFICER SPACES FOR THEM TO DO BUSINESS OR, YOU KNOW, MORE DETECTIVE SPACES? AND SO DO WE ENLARGE THE BUILDING.

IN WHICH DIRECTION DO WE GO? THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 2 MILLION WAS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

EXPANSION WAS TO EXPAND THE BUILDING ITSELF.

WELL, AGAIN, WE'RE WE NEED TO DO THE FEASIBILITY PIECE AND SEE WHAT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO COVER EXPANSION.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING THE EXPANSION IS GOING TO COME WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RENOVATION TO THE EXISTING FACILITY, TOO? I WOULD THINK SO FOR FUNCTIONALITY, BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU'VE GOT THE BIG ANTENNA THERE, RIGHT? SO REALLY YOU CAN EXPAND TO THE BACK RIGHT WHERE THE PARKING IS.

YOU CAN EXPAND TO THE SOUTH OF THE ANTENNA.

YOU YOU CAN EXPAND TO THE NORTH, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.

MY OPINION WOULD BE MOVE LUPI'S OFFICE AND CREATE OFFICES AND HALLWAYS THAT WAY.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE EVENTUALLY GOING TO EXPAND THAT COMPLEX, THAT'S THE WAY YOU PROBABLY WANT TO GO TO EXPAND THAT TO THE NORTH.

AND SO WHEN YOU REDESIGN IT, EVEN IF EVEN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THAT NEW BUILDING, YOU DESIGN IT SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT, THAT CAPABILITY TO DO THAT.

SO IF WE GET A GRANT FOR THROUGH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO DO THAT, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT AND DESIGNING FOR THE FUTURE.

AND THEN THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

WE'VE GOT AN IDEA FOR FOLLOWING THE 1.5.

RIGHT, RIGHT. SO AGAIN USING THE MODULAR BUILDING DESIGN YOU KNOW AGAIN RELOOKING THE WAY WE DO THINGS, MAYBE EXPAND TO THE NORTH WITH THE NEW MODULAR BUILDING AND THE CONCRETE PAD AND WHATEVER, AND THAT BECOMES YOUR ADOPTION SLASH WHATEVER.

STILL UTILIZE SOME OF THAT EXISTING BUILDING AND THEN MOVE IT OVER SO THAT YOU'RE NOT.

BECAUSE IF WE STOP DOING ANIMAL OPERATIONS FOR A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SEVERE PROBLEM.

AND EVENTUALLY YOU COULD TEAR DOWN THAT, THE BUILDING IN THE BACK.

BUT AGAIN, CREATE WHAT YOU WANT, MAYBE TO THE NORTH SORT OF AGAIN, THINKING, THINKING DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE CONCEPT FOR A LOT CHEAPER THAN THE FOR THE $4

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MILLION AND NOT GET THE PRODUCT YOU WANT.

DOWNTOWN PROJECT IS ALREADY BAKED, SO THERE'S NOTHING MOVING ON THAT, RIGHT? RIGHT. IT'S 1.5 ACRES MOVING FORWARD WITH THE WATER SEWER SURVEY STUFF SO THEY CAN DETERMINE THE WORK FOR THAT. WE HAVEN'T SIGNED AN AFA WITH TXDOT YET ON THE ON THE PROJECT, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT TO PERCOLATE AND FIGURE OUT THE TIMELINE OF THIS PROJECT. OKAY, SO THAT LEAVES THE 5.3 FOR STREETS, WHICH MOST THAT'S HENDERSON.

OKAY. COUNCIL SEEMS PRETTY CUT AND DRY TO ME.

ANY QUESTIONS? SO ARE WE LOOKING TO AMEND THIS AMOUNT THOUGH TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL FOR THE FIRE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE.

NO NO NO IN THE PAST ONE.

OH YEAH.

MY EMOTIONS ARE LOOKING AT THE 10.3.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE CONSTRAINED TO 1.5.

IT COULD, BUT WE'RE AGREEING ON EACH ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL CONSTRAINTS ALSO.

NO. SO YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE REALLY AGREEING ON THE 10.3 FOR BONDING PURPOSES.

AND THEN AS THINGS PERCOLATE, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD WE CAN ADJUST THOSE AMOUNTS.

YEAH. AND WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS THAT WE DON'T GET TO ADD ANOTHER LINE ITEM.

WE DON'T GET TO ADD. WELL, SO WE DON'T GET TO ADD OR PARKS AND REC BUILDING TO THE RIGHT.

SO WHEN YOU SPECIFY THE BOND, YOU'RE SPECIFYING THE MAJOR PURPOSES YOU'RE USING IT FOR BY NAMING IT IN THE IN THE RESOLUTION.

YOU SAID THAT, RIGHT? BUT YOU WILL SEE IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

YES, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

I WASN'T PICKING ON PARKS.

THAT'S THE FIRST ONE THAT CAME TO MY MIND.

BUT YOU ASK A GOOD QUESTION THAT YOU'LL THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THAT NEXT ONE THAT WE WE'VE DONE.

COUNCIL. DO WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO FORWARD WITH THE 2024 CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION WITH THE 10.3 MILLION? I MAKE A MOTION TO GO FORWARD WITH THE 2024 CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, FOR A TOTAL OF $10.3 MILLION.

THE ITEMS LISTED WITH THE ITEMS LISTED STREETS DOWNTOWN IN GENERAL.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

I'M ASSUMING THE BETTER.

ITEM NUMBER 11.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240312.

[11. Discussion and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20240312-011; an ordinance by the City Council of the City of Angleton, Texas, authorizing the issuance and sale of the City of Angleton, Texas, Combination Tax and Revenue Certificates of Obligation, Series 2024, levying a tax and providing for the security and payment thereof; and enacting other provisions relating thereto. ]

DASH 011.

AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS.

COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION SERIES 2024.

LEVYING A TAX AND PROVIDING FOR THE SECURITY AND PAYMENT THEREOF, AND ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING THERETO.

HERE WE ARE. WHO WANTS TO TAKE OFF? JOE. JOE, THANKS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

YOU BET. THANK YOU.

JOE MORROW WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES.

EXCUSE ME. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS MORNING, WE TOOK BIDS FOR THE SALE OF YOUR CERTIFICATES.

AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PREPARATION FOR THAT PROCESS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS WE ASKED SMP TO TAKE A LOOK AT US ONCE AGAIN AND CONFIRM OUR RATING AND GIVE US A RATING ON THIS ISSUE.

SO THEY THEY DID CONFIRM THE RATING AND A DOUBLE A MINUS.

I HAVE THAT REPORT FOR YOU BEHIND TAB NUMBER FOUR.

THEY DID NOTE THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME WEAKENING IN YOUR FUND BALANCE, AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS.

COMING IN WITH A NEGATIVE BALANCE IN 21 AND 22.

SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THAT NOT TO HAPPEN IN 23 NOR IN 2024.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE REPORT.

WE'LL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE.

I'LL BE GETTING THE STAFF AND AND WE'LL LOOK AT A STRATEGY ON HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHORE UP SOME OF THE SOME OF THE

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THINGS THAT THEY HAD ISSUES WITH.

SO THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU'VE GOT YOUR DOUBLE A MINUS.

THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT CREDIT RATING.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, A DOUBLE A CATEGORY HAS A MINUS AND A DOUBLE A PLUS DOUBLE A AND A DOUBLE A MINUS. AND THE RATING ABOVE THAT IS A TRIPLE A.

SO YOU'RE A VERY HIGHLY RATED CREDIT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL SCHEME OF THE RATING CATEGORIES.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT COMES INTO PLAY IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BOND MARKETS.

RIGHT. AND BEHIND TAB NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE AN INDEX HERE, THE BOND BUYER GENERAL OBLIGATION INDEX.

THAT GIVES US A DIRECTION OF INTEREST RATES.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE IT SHOWS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN.

MOST RECENTLY WE TURNED AND HAD RATES COMING DOWN FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

WE BUMPED BACK UP.

THIS DOESN'T REFLECT IT AS AS SUCH YET BECAUSE IT'S A THESE ARE ALL WEEKLY DATA PLOTS HERE.

IT'S A IT'S JUST A WEEKLY DATA POINT THAT COMES OUT.

BUT IT'S A 20 YEAR HISTORY.

AND WE HAVE BEEN TRENDING DOWN HERE RATHER RAPIDLY, AS THE MARKET IS EXPECTING THAT THE FED WILL BEGIN TO CUT INTEREST RATES SOMETIME IN THE LATTER PART OF THIS YEAR.

SO THE MARKETS ARE FORWARD LOOKING AND THEY'RE TRYING TO ANTICIPATE THAT THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOON.

BEHIND TAB NUMBER TWO IS THE RESULTS.

WE HAD BIDS FROM FOUR COMPANIES TODAY.

THE WINNING BID CAME FROM FIDELITY CAPITAL MARKETS AT A 3.628.

WHEN WE STRUCTURED THE DEAL LOOKING AT WHERE INTEREST RATES WERE AND WHAT MARKET PREFERENCES WERE, THERE IS STILL A STRONG PREFERENCE BY THE MARKETS TO BID A PREMIUM ON BONDS, WHICH ALLOWED US TO SIZE AT 3,755,000 AS WE WERE GOING INTO THE MARKET, AND STILL WITH THE PREMIUM THAT THE BIDDERS ARE WILLING TO PAY, WE'RE STILL GOING TO COVER COST OF ISSUANCE AND PUT $4 MILLION INTO YOUR CONSTRUCTION FUND.

ONCE WE GOT THE BIDS, WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEIR BID WAS AND HOW IT WAS STRUCTURED AND RESIZED THE BID.

SO IN THE END, WE'LL BE SELLING 3,000,750 INSTEAD OF THE 755.

SO WE WERE CLOSE. THEIR MARKET DIDN'T MOVE TOO MUCH FROM WHEN WE POSTED THE POS TO WHEN WE TOOK THE BID, SO THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

THE WINNING BIDDER, FIDELITY CAPITAL MARKETS, DID WHAT WE CALL WRAP THIS BOND ISSUE WITH INSURANCE.

SO THEY INSURED THE TIMELINESS OF THE PAYMENTS OF PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON THIS.

NOW, THEY ARE ARE THEY PUT THAT COST OF BUYING THE INSURANCE INTO THEIR BID.

NONE OF THE OTHER BIDDERS DID THAT, WHICH I FIND INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS ONE OF THOSE.

WOULD IT MAKE SENSE? WOULD IT NOT MAKE SENSE? IN THIS CASE IT MADE SENSE.

AND THEY WERE ABLE TO TO PAY THE INSURANCE PREMIUM AND PAY THEMSELVES AND STILL MAKE STILL COME OUT WITH THE LOWEST BID. SO BEHIND TAB NUMBER THREE, YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTING DEBT SERVICE AND THE ABLC WILL HAVE THEIR FIRST PAYMENT IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.

IT'LL BE JUST UNDER 65,000.

THERE YOU CAN SEE TOTAL P AND I.

AND FISCAL TOTAL $64,863.33.

THEN NEXT YEAR WILL BEGIN TO AMORTIZE PRINCIPAL.

AND THAT'S GOING TO RUN, YOU KNOW, AVERAGING AROUND 288,000 A YEAR THROUGH THE END OF THE PAYMENT PERIOD, WHICH IS 2044. SO A 20 YEAR BOND ISSUE.

WHEN WE DID RESIZE OUR FINAL TICK IS A 3.629 AS OPPOSED TO THE 3.628.

JUST ONE OF THOSE MAGIC THINGS OF MATH THAT 0.001 WENT UP.

BUT YOU KNOW, ALL IN ALL, GUYS I HAVEN'T SEEN RATES THIS LOW IN THE LONG TIME.

IT'S YOU KNOW, WE GOT DOWN TO CRAZY LOW DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN IT WAS JUST OUTRAGEOUS.

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BUT WE'VE BEEN ABOVE 4% HERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.

COMING TO MARKET.

SO, Y'ALL, Y'ALL CAUGHT IT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF WIND AT YOUR BACK HERE BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THREE WEEKS AGO THAT I HAD MY FIRST SALE, THAT IT DROPPED UNDER 4% IN, IN A LONG TIME, AND NOW Y'ALL ARE WELL UNDER IT.

SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN TODAY, AND CERTAINLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU AWARD THE BONDS TO FIDELITY CAPITAL MARKETS ALSO HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING YOUR BOND.

ALSO BRACEWELL IS AARON ROBERTS AND SHE WILL BE GETTING THE DOCUMENTS THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FROM TONIGHT AND ALL OF THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS WORK TOGETHER AND SIGNED AND MOVING US TOWARDS CLOSING, WHICH WE EXPECT TO HAPPEN ON APRIL THE 3RD.

OKAY, SO APRIL THE 3RD IS WHEN THE MONEY WILL BE AVAILABLE.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE, OR AARON IS HERE TO ANSWER ANYTHING YOU MAY HAVE ON THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT.

BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE AWARD THE BONDS TONIGHT TO FIDELITY CAPITAL MARKETS.

QUESTION. YES.

IF IT'S A 4 MILLION BOND, WHY IS IT 3.755? THEY THEY PAY A PREMIUM.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE MARKET LIKES WHEN INTEREST RATES ARE FALLING BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK UP OR NOT.

AND THAT GIVES THEM SOME PRICE PROTECTION AT NOT HAVING TO SELL AT A DISCOUNT, WHICH WOULD BE LOW PAR.

SO THEY'LL PAY ABOVE PAR.

AND THESE ARE INSTITUTIONS WHICH MAY HAVE RESTRICTIONS IN THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SELL YOUR BONDS AT A DISCOUNT.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO SELL IT AT A DISCOUNT.

IT LOOKS FROM ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT, I GUESS, BAD, BAD FOR THEM ON THEIR BOOKS.

SO THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PAY US MORE THAN OUR FACE VALUE.

AND HONESTLY, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE IT BECAUSE IT YOU KNOW, FEWER, FEWER BONDS FOR MORE MONEY.

DO YOU THINK YOU SAID THAT WE HIT IT AT THE RIGHT TIME? BUT DID WE? I MEAN, LET'S SAY TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, THE FED CUTS RATES, LET'S SAY THEY CUT RATES THE NEXT MONTH.

DO YOU THINK THAT THE BOND MARKET'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO DROP OR IF THE FED CUTS RATES I THINK IT'S GOING TO DROP.

RIGHT. I THINK THEY'RE BUILDING IN SOME OF THIS HERE.

YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THOSE BIG IFS.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS RELATIVE TO A MONTH AGO, YOU'VE DONE VERY WELL.

WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE IN 60 OR 90 DAYS? THAT COULD BE LOWER, BUT.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE HERE NOW WITH THE WITH THE BONDS IN HAND, BID IN HAND.

AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS THE DEAL THAT WE HAVE.

I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT 10.3 COMING RIGHT BEHIND IT.

YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HIT THAT.

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, HIT THE SWEET SPOT ON THAT AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW, CPI CAME OUT TODAY AND WAS HIGHER THAN EXPECTED, WHICH IS NOT WHAT THE MARKETS WANTED TO SEE AS FAR AS THE THE DEBT MARKETS.

BUT EVERYBODY JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SHRUGGED IT OFF BECAUSE I GUESS IT WASN'T FAR ENOUGH OFF.

BUT WE CONTINUED TO SEE AND EVERYBODY'S HYPER FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC STATISTICS RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT. AND THE FED MEETS LATER THIS MONTH.

AND THIS WAS THE LAST BIG STATISTIC BEFORE THEY MEET.

SO EVERYBODY WAS HYPER FOCUSED ON THIS.

AND YET IT COMES IN OVER EXPECTATIONS.

AND THE EQUITY MARKETS GO UP AND THE BOND MARKET'S GOING DOWN I DON'T KNOW I MEAN IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER IT. I GUESS THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS ACTUALLY NOT SO MUCH FOR YOU.

IT'S FOR PHIL WITH THIS DEBT SERVICE, IT'D BE NICE TO GIVE COUNCIL SEND US AN EMAIL WITH THE WHOLE DEBT SCHEDULE, WITH THIS BOND INCLUDED, SO WE CAN SEE HOW IT WITH ALL OF OUR EXISTING DEBT THAT WE HAVE ON ABLC AND HOW THAT RUNS THROUGH.

SO THE COUNCIL CAN BE AWARE OF THE TOTAL IMPACT THAT THAT'S HAVING AND WHAT ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE OF THAT.

OKAY, I CAN DO THAT OKAY.

COUNCIL MR.. I'VE GOT ONE.

GIVEN EVERYTHING ELSE WAS THE SAME TODAY.

WHAT IF WE'D HAVE GONE OUT FOR TEN EGGS? THIS MANY? WHAT IF WE GOT OUT TEN EGGS THIS AMOUNT? WOULD THE. WOULD THE RATES BE ABOUT THE SAME OR WOULD THEY?

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OKAY. SO YES, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN AMOUNT OF BONDS.

DOESN'T MATTER. THEY'VE GOT THEY'VE GOT SOME.

YOU MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT LOWER BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'D BE A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

BLOCK SIZE IN THE MARKET LIKES THE LARGER BLOCK SIZE.

SO NOT SIGNIFICANT BUT NOT SIGNIFICANT.

NO, SIR. YES.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL YOU ANY QUESTIONS? FOR THOSE FOLLOWING THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, THIS IS THE ABLC DEBT THAT INCLUDES ABIGAIL ARIAS PARK, FREEDOM PARK, THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER, BG PARK, AND SOME DRAINAGE PROJECTS HERE IN ANGLETON.

SO THIS IS A GOOD WIN FOR FOR THE CITIZENS, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A LOT DONE WITH THIS AND REALLY MAKE IT HELP OUT THE CITIZENS AND A LOT OF AREAS. RIGHT COUNCIL WANT TO AWARD THE BID.

FOR THE BID OR MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.

THE ORDINANCE HAS THE BID IN THERE, BUT YOU CAN SAY IT IF YOU WANT AS WELL.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 403 12 DASH 011.

AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON AUTHORIZED THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY WELL.

COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUES, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION SERIES 2024 AND AWARDING THE BIDS OF FIDELITY CAPITAL MARKETS AND AWARDING THE BID TO FIDELITY CAPITAL MARKETS.

GOT IT. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTON, TO AWARD THE BID TO FIDELITY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, JUST BRIEFLY, WITH REGARDS TO THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, IN OTHER WORDS, IDENTIFY.

BUT DO WE HAVE SOME SOME PROJECTS, AN IDEA ABOUT HECTOR OR CAN YOU COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICK? FREDERICK, WHAT ARE YOU WHAT HAVE YOU WHAT A COUPLE OF MAJOR THINGS YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THAT IT WAS IT ACTUALLY ENDED UP BEING ONE.

IT WAS ON TEXIAN TRAIL TO REPLACE THAT GOING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH THERE, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A COLLAPSE IN ABOUT A DECADE AGO, I BELIEVE, AND IT'S MADE OUT OF A OF THAT CORRUGATED PIPE AND IT WAS EMBEDDED CORRECTLY.

SO WE PROPOSED TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAD AN ISSUE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO DURING ONE OF THE MAJOR RAIN EVENTS WE HAD, I BELIEVE, WAS IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY.

AND SO WE VOTED JUST LET'S GET THIS PROJECT DONE BEFORE WE CALL SOME ISSUES.

AND IT'S ABOUT 300 AND IT WAS 327,000 I BELIEVE IS OUR OPC.

BUT THE WHATEVER WE HAVE OVERAGE WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL FROM OUR OPERATING BUDGET.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY. GOOD QUESTION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY. AND I GUESS WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:48 P.M..

[EXECUTIVE SESSION ]

COUNCIL. MAYOR, MAY I ASK THAT YOU MAKE A TAKE A VOTE ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ITEM EIGHT? C SINCE WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OUR AGENDA AND WE'RE DOING IT PURSUANT TO CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY.

GOT IT. COUNCIL.

DO I HAVE A MOTION ON.

LET ME READ AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE APPROVAL OF THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT AS REVISED FOR THE RIVERWOOD RANCH NORTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT COUNCIL.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE THIS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? SO MOVED. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND FURTHER DISCUSSION. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. WE WILL TAKE THAT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND ITEM NUMBER 12.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DELIBERATION REGARDING CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY REGARDING CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551 .071 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

CASE NUMBER DASH ONE.

DASH G N DASH 23.

DASH 007785.

THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS VERSUS STATE OF TEXAS.

WE WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 749.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

IT IS 846.

WE ARE COMING BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SAME GROUP THAT WENT OUT.

COUNCIL. DO I HAVE ANY ACTIONS? YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE RIVERWOOD NORTH.

REIMBURSEMENT. SECOND.

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I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTEN.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH TO DELAY THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH RIVERWOOD RANCH NORTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

COUNCIL. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER ACTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? YOU CAN SAY NO, NO, NO.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE OUR CLOCK BACK TO THE OLD CLOCK.

ALL RIGHT. HEARING NO OTHER ACTIONS, WE WILL ADJOURN AT 847 AND 54 SECONDS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.