Apr 09, 2024 City Council

NATIONAL ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER APPRECIATION, WHEAT PROCLAMATION.

WE WILL GO RIGHT ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, PRESENTATION OF

[1. Presentation of National Animal Control Officer Appreciation Week Proclamation.]

AND ITEM NUMBER

[2. Presentation of National Public Safety Telecommunicators Week Proclamation.]

TWO, PRESENTATION OF NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY, TELECOMMUNICATORS WHEAT PROCLAMATION.

COUNSEL, IF YOU'LL COME UP FRONT, READ THESE.

IT'S MICHELLE.

ALL RIGHT.

OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS DESERVE RECOGNITION FOR THE DEDICATED SERVICES THEY PROVIDE TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC AND OF ALL ANIMALS, AND WHERE THEY SELFLESSLY ENTER POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS DAILY TO SERVE AND PROTECT CITIZENS, DOMESTIC ANIMALS, LIVESTOCK AND WILDLIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE NATION.

AND WHEREAS SOME IMPORTANT DUTIES OF ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS INCLUDE, ENFORCE ANIMAL CONTROL.

LAWS PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM DISEASES SUCH AS RABIES CAPTURE OF ROAMING AND POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS ANIMALS.

INVESTIGATE REPORTS OF ANIMAL COMPLAINTS AND WELFARE, SEIZE ANIMALS FROM HARMFUL CONDITIONS, AND REHOME, REHABILITATE, RELOCATE, AND RELEASE ANIMALS TO SAFE ENVIRONMENTS.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF TON URGES ALL CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO JOIN US IN EXPRESSING OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR THE SERVICE AND DEDICATION OF ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, STATE AND NATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, I JOHN WRIGHT, MAYOR OF CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 14TH, 20TH 2024, AS RECOGNIZED AS NATIONAL ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER APPRECIATION WEEK PROCLAIMED THIS NINTH DAY OF APRIL, 2024.

CONGRATULATIONS, Y'ALL, COME FORWARD PLEASE.

YOU TALK TO AND WHAT THE PROFESSIONALISM OF EVERY DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

WHICH ONE'S YOUR SPEECH? YOU JUMP UP HERE, STEP UP.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

AND BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT ONE, WHILE THEY'RE HERE, THE WORK THAT THE ANIMAL CONTROL DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU CAN SEE HOW FAR IT'S COME IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS FOR THE AMOUNT OF ADOPTIONS, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING INTO, AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO OVER THERE AT THAT FACILITY, AND IMPROVING THE FACILITY AND IMPROVING THE LIVES OF ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

THANK, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE BOTH GROUPS HERE TODAY.

'CAUSE NO, NOBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT, WHAT EVERYONE IS DOING BEHIND THE SCENES AND WHAT THEY'RE, WHEN YOU CALL AND WHO

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IT MEANS A LOT.

SO HERE'S ANOTHER PRO PROCLAMATION OFFICE OF THE MAYOR OF CITY OF LESTON, TEXAS PRO MISSION.

WHEREAS EMERGENCIES CAN OCCUR AT ANY TIME THAT REQUIRE POLICE, FIRE, OR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES THAT PROMISE TO RESPOND TO POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, AND PARAMEDICS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PRESERVE PROPERTY.

AND WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS ARE THE CRITICAL LINK BETWEEN PEOPLE CALLING FOR HELP AND ANY EMERGENCY SITUATION AND THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE AGENCIES WHO ARRIVE ON THE SCENE.

AND WHEREAS THE SAFETY OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, APPREHENSION OF CRIMINALS AND TREATMENT OF INDIVIDUALS IN LIFE THREATENING SITUATIONS, IT'S DEPENDENT UPON QUALITY AND ACCURACY OF INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM CITIZENS WHO CALLED THE CITY OF ANGLETON'S EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER.

AND WHEREAS COUNTLESS LIVES HAVE BEEN SAVED DUE TO THE PROMPT, EFFECTIVE, COMPASSIONATE, AND PROFESSIONAL RESPONSES OF TELECOMMUNICATORS.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF ANGLETON URGES ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN IN, COMMITTING EACH TELECOMMUNICATOR FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO DUTY, PROFESSIONALISM, AND COMMITMENT TO THE PRESERVATION OF LIFE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I JOHN WRIGHT, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT APRIL 14TH, THE 20TH, 2024, AS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK.

THE CLAIM IS NINTH DAY OF APRIL, 2024.

ALRIGHT, READY? 1, 2, 3.

VERY GOOD.

THANK IN OUR CITY, EVERY LIFE IS SAVED, STARTS WITH CALL DISEASE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK Y'ALL.

WE'LL GIVE THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BEFORE THEY START CALLING.

ALRIGHT.

MOVING

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ON TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 4 0 4 0 9 DASH ZERO THREE AMENDING CHAPTER 26, UTILITIES ARTICLE FOUR, UTILITY SERVICES REGULATIONS DIVISION TWO SERVICE RULES, SECTION 26 DASH ONE 12 BILLING BY REVISING THE DUE DATE FOR UTILITY BILLS ISSUED, CHANGING THE DUE DATE ON UTILITY BILLS TO THE 25TH OF THE MONTH.

COUNSEL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY ABOUT SAYING AYE.

NUMBER FOUR, UPDATE DISCUSSION BY SUSAN SPO, MISSOURI COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD MEMBER AND CITY REPRESENTATIVE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN THAT MOTION CARRIES.

MOVING ON TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM

[4. Update and discussion by Susan Spoor, Brazoria County Appraisal District board member and City representative. ]

HI, MS. BORE, HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE Y'ALL? I'M GOOD.

WELL, THANK YOU.

ADMINISTRATOR OF THE APPRAISAL OFFICE.

WELL, MY NAME IS SUSAN SPORE AND I AM ONE OF THE FIVE APPOINTED MEMBERS OF THE MISSOURI COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

KRISTEN NIK IS OUR COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, WHO IS A NON-VOTING MEMBER.

I HAVE WITH ME MARCEL PEREL, WHO IS OUR CHIEF APPRAISER FOR THE DISTRICT.

NOW, IN JULY, THREE ELECTED MEMBERS FROM THE MAY 4TH ELECTION WILL BE ADDED TO OUR GROUP.

AND AT THAT TIME, MRS. NIK WILL BECOME A VOTING MEMBER.

ALSO, THE QUALIFICATIONS, I HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF BRAZORIA COUNTY.

I HAVE TO BE A REGISTERED VOTER.

NEXT ONE'S KIND OF IFFY PERSON OF GOOD CHARACTER.

MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN LIFELONG RESIDENTS OF BRAZORIA COUNTY.

I WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH A MEMBER OF THE FAIR ASSOCIATION SERVING AS TREASURE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS, AS WELL AS I DID THE BOOKKEEPING FOR OUR FARMING BUSINESS.

WHO MAKES UP THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT? WELL, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS GOVERNED BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THE CHIEF APPRAISER IS THE CHIEF

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AND THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD MEMBERS ARE THE, UH, APPOINTED BY THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE.

THEY HEAR THE PROTEST BETWEEN DISTRICT AND PROPERTY OWNERS AGENTS.

I WAS ASKED TO CONSIDER BEING A MEMBER OF THE, UH, APPRAISAL BOARD WHEN RYAN KAY DECIDED TO RUN FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

I HAD ALREADY SERVED TWO THREE YEAR TERMS AS THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD MEMBER.

THIS GAVE ME AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT GOES ON AND WHAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS ABOUT.

HOWEVER, THE TWO BOARDS HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT FUNCTION.

THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS SETS POLICY AND BUDGET.

WE ESTABLISH AN, UH, PER THE LEGISLATURE, WE ESTABLISH AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT OFFICE.

WE HIRE THE CHIEF APPRAISER.

WE APPROVE AN ANNUAL BUDGET BY SEPTEMBER THE 15TH.

AND WE APPOINTED TAX PAYER LIAISON OFFICER STARTING JANUARY THE FIRST OF 2025.

THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD MEMBERS WILL BE CHOSEN BY US AND APPOINTED BY US.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY OVER SETTING THE APPRAISAL VALUES FOR THE DISTRICT OR THE APPRAISAL METHODS USED BY THE DISTRICT.

THIS IS ALL SET BY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THE TAX CODE 5.102 REQUIRES THE CONTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS TO REVIEW EACH APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S GOVERNANCE, TAXPAYER ASSISTANCE, OPERATING PROCEDURES, AND APPRAISAL STANDARDS, PROCEDURES AND METHODOLOGY AT LEAST ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS.

IN ALL MY YEARS THAT I HAVE SERVED, I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE OF OUR MAPS REPORTS COME IN WITH LESS THAN A HUNDRED ON ANY OF THE GIVEN AREAS THAT WE ARE TESTED ON.

WE HAVE A FABULOUS GROUP AT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AND I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH THEM.

AND THAT'S IT.

DO YOU NEED ANY OTHER INFORMATION? NOW, THE QUESTION, THE DATE ON NEXT YEAR FOR 25, Y'ALL ARE GONNA CHOOSE THE REVIEW.

IT USED TO, IT USED TO BE THE BOARD CHOSE THE, WHEN I WAS ON IT.

THE ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE.

THE APPRAISAL, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS CHOSE THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD MEMBERS, THEN THEY SWITCHED IT OVER TO THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE JUDGE, ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE.

AND HE'S BEEN CHOOSING IT ALL ALONG.

NOW, THE STATE'S THROWN IT BACK TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO CHOOSE THE OARB MEMBERS.

GOOD.

THANKS.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, .

OH.

WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I HEAR FROM RESIDENTS ALL THE TIME, AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING.

SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU THE QUESTION.

UH, WHAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT YOU'RE SEEING FROM THE APPRAISAL REVIEW OR THE APPRAISAL BOARD THAT IS CAUSING THE, THE PRI THE VALUATIONS TO RISE AS, AS MUCH AS THEY ARE? YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S COMING FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE? I AM.

WHAT AVENUE AND WHAT VOICE DO THE CITIZENS HAVE AND VOICING THEIR CONCERNS? UP TO CHAIN.

TO THE LEGISLATURE.

DOES THE OTHER ONES THAT SET THE RULES THAT WE HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE IF WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, BUT IS WE HAVE ONE YEAR TO GET IT TOGETHER.

WE DON'T WANNA HAVE, OTHERWISE I WOULD, UH, WITHHOLD FUNDING FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND YOU SAID YOU'VE SEEN EVERY TIME THEY'VE HAD A REVIEW, IT'S ALWAYS COME BACK AS A HUNDRED? THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE, THAT'S FOR THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD.

THAT'S FOR THE, UH, MAPS REVIEW, WHICH IS OUR METHODS AND SYSTEM.

THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

AND WHAT ARE YOU SEEING NEXT YEAR? SHE CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT.

THAT SHE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VALUES.

YEAH, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

CAN'T HURT TO ASK .

RIGHT? SORRY.

BUT WE HAVE TO GET IN COMPLIANCE AND, UM, THAT, THAT'S A FALLACY THAT A LOT OF THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS DON'T UNDERSTAND.

THEY THINK THAT IT'S THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT GOING OUT THERE AND SAYING, WELL, I JUST WANT THIS HOUSE TO BE A VALUED AT 250,000, SO IT'S GONNA BE VALUED AT 250,000.

IT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.

THE STATE COMES IN AND DOES A SPOT CHECK, AND IF THEY SAY THE HOUSE IS WORTH 300,000 AND WE'VE GOT AT TWO 50, AND THEY'LL DO THESE LITTLE SPOT CHECKS AND THEY'LL COME BACK.

AND IF WE'RE NOT AT A PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT, THEN WE'RE WRITTEN UP.

SO YOU SAY THE STATE WHO, WHO DO YOU REPORT TO THEN? WHO'S DOING YOUR COMP? AUDITING.

COMP.

COMP CONTROLLERS.

AND THEY HAVE AGENTS THAT COME OUT AND WE'LL DO THAT.

SPOT CHECK.

SALES IN THE AREA THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING AND THAT'S COMING FROM THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.

SO I GUESS ONE LAST QUESTION.

I HEAR THIS A LOT TOO, AND MAYBE YOU CAN CLEAR THIS UP FOR ME.

WHY IS IT SO PEOPLE SAY THIS SIDE OF TOWN, I'VE SEEN THEIR VALUATIONS HAVE GONE UP 25% AND THIS SIDE OF TOWN MIGHT'VE GONE UP 5%.

HOW DOES THAT, HOW DO THEY DICTATE THAT IN THAT TERM, IN THE TERMS OF THIS HOUSE OVER HERE GOES UP MORE THAN THIS ONE OVER HERE? IS IT BASED OFF OF PRICES SOLD IN THAT AREA? IS IT LATEST VALUATIONS? UM, I WOULD SAY WOULD BE COMP

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WELL, THEY'RE GONNA COME DOWN AND LOOK AT, YEAH.

I WISH I HAD MORE TIME TO, TO REALLY INVESTIGATE ON, ON HOW THAT ALL OPERATES.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.

THANKS.

I JUST KNOW PROTEST EVERY YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT I DO.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I DO.

ALL

[5. Update, discussion, and possible action of final results of the development of Phase 1, Wastewater Treatment Plant Investment Grade Audit and approval of next development phase, presented by Schneider Electric.]

UP, THE DIFFUSERS ARE, THEY'RE JUST LINED OUT IN LITTLE STRIPS AND THEY'RE, I THINK WE HAVE, GOSH, WHAT WAS IT, 80 OF THEM IN THERE AND WE PROBABLY NEED 160 OF THEM, YOU KNOW, JUST DOUBLE THAT.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UPDATE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION OF FINAL RESULTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF PHASE ONE WASTEWATER TREATMENT, PLANT INVESTMENT GRADE AUDIT, AND APPROVAL OF THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT PHASE PRESENTED BY SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC.

SO I'M GONNA START OFF IF I CAN.

UH, SO, UH, WE HIRED SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC IN 2021.

BEFORE THAT, THIS HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED IN FEBRUARY, WE GOT A LETTER FROM TCQ SAYING, WE'RE OUTTA COMPLIANCE AND IT RELATES TO THIS ISSUE.

AND SO I'VE GOT HECTOR TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE OF THE HISTORY JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE.

AND AGAIN, SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC'S GOT THE SOLUTION.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF IN A NO MAN'S LAND.

YOU KNOW, WE SUBMITTED ALL THIS TO TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, UH, BUT WE WON'T FIND ANYTHING OUT AS FAR AS FUNDING UNTIL OCTOBER-ISH.

AND THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER PROBABLY YEAR BEFORE WE'D GET FUNDING.

AND SO THE PICKLE IS IF TCQ COMES BACK AND SAY, SAYS, YOU'RE STILL NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

YOU NEED TO GET IN COMPLIANCE.

THEY HAVE COUPLE ACTIONS.

AND ONE IS, UH, THEY COULD FINE US.

UH, SO IT WOULD COME OUT OF CITY FUNDS.

UH, THE OTHER IS THEY COULD FORCE COMPLIANCE AND SAY, YOU'VE GOT A YEAR TO DO IT.

AND THEN WE MEET WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MAKING THE MILESTONES, UM, TO GET THERE.

AND SO WE'RE RAISING THE ISSUE.

UM, AND ALTERNATIVE TO HECTOR.

ALRIGHT.

UH, EVENING MAYOR COUNSEL.

UM, SO I'LL START OFF JUST KIND OF GIVING A BRIEF HISTORY OF THIS, OF THIS ISSUE AND HOW IT'S KIND OF EVOLVED INTO, INTO WHAT IT IS TODAY.

UM, SO ORIGINALLY THIS PLANT WAS DESIGNED, UH, FOR TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERMIT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, REGULATIONS.

UM, AND TODAY, IN TODAY'S WE HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN AMMONIA, AMMONIA, UM, LEVELS THAT ARE NOT WHAT THE PLANT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR.

SO THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST.

UM, ANOTHER ONE IS THE, UH, THE BLOWERS THEMSELVES.

WE CANNOT, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE VFDS, WE TURN 'EM UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THAT'S, WE'RE GETTING ALL THE AIR WE CAN OUT OF THEM WITHOUT POSSIBLY CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE BLOWERS BY, UH, CREATING A LOT OF BACK PRESSURE, A LOT OF HEAT.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE AT.

WE KNOW WE NEED MORE AIR IN THERE TO INCREASE THE TREATMENT PROCESS, BUT WE CANNOT POSSIBLY GET ANY MORE AIR IN THERE.

WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.

WE'RE RESTRICTED BY THE AMOUNT WE CAN TURN OFF THE BLOWERS.

AND WHAT WE BELIEVE ALSO IS THE SIZE OF THE PIPE.

UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO WHEN WE GO INTO, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY A REDESIGN.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, SO IN, UM, SO IN MARCH, APRIL OF 2023, THOSE WERE WHEN WE STARTED GETTING SOME OF THE, UH, VIOLATION ISSUES.

UM, AND MOST OF THOSE FROM THE MARCH, APRIL AREA WERE FROM WHEN WE WERE ACTUALLY, UH, CLEANING OUT THE BASINS AND REPLACING THOSE DIFFUSERS THAT WE DID.

AND WE DID THAT IN 2023.

AND THAT KIND OF BOOSTED US ON A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THOSE DIFFUSERS ARE STARTING TO FAIL ON US ALL OVER AGAIN.

SO THAT AGAIN, POINTS US IN THE DIRECTION OF THAT WE NEED AN ENTIRE REDESIGN, UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT GRID LAYOUT, MORE DIFFUSERS AND, YOU KNOW, LARGER BLOWERS TO BE ABLE TO PUSH MORE OUT INTO THESE DIFFUSERS.

UM, AND THEN MORE RECENTLY IN, IN FEBRUARY, THIS IS REALLY WHAT BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION IS WE STARTED NOTICING THAT THE, THE AMMONIA LEVELS WERE INCREASING AND OUR AIR LEVELS WERE DECREASING.

SO THAT PROMPTED ANOTHER ISSUE FOR US.

AND IT TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY, AND THAT'S WHAT LED US TO SOME OPERATIONAL CHANGES.

WE MADE MARCH 5TH, WE IMPLEMENTED ALL OF THOSE AND, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF HOLD OUR HEAD ABOVE WATER THERE.

AND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

UM, SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE KEEPING ENOUGH AIR IN THERE AT THE MOMENT TO KEEP THE AMMONIA AT A, AT A LEVEL THAT KEEPS US OUT OF TCQ VIOLATION.

BUT WE'RE JUST BARELY RIGHT THERE IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS ON THAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND THE HISTORY OF IT.

SO WITH TWO BLOWERS, WHAT IS YOUR FLOW OUTPUT OFF THE TWO BLOWERS? UH, I, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT SURE ON THE, ON THE C FMS, I'M NOT SURE ON THAT NUMBER.

BUT WE'RE, WE'RE WITH THE BLOWERS AND THE SIZE OF THE PIPE, WE'RE PUSHING OUT EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.

I MEAN, WE'RE RIGHT AT THE LIMIT OF BACK PRESSURE THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ON THOSE BLOWERS AT NORMAL OPERATING LEVEL.

I'M CONCERNED WITH ARE WE PUSHING OUT TOO MUCH FOR THE SYSTEM? UH, NO, WE'RE NOT PUSHING OUT TOO MUCH.

WE JUST, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DIFFUSERS THERE.

THERE'S, THE WAY THE LAYOUT IS SET

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AT, AT A MINIMUM.

AND THEN, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WE CAN'T PUSH OUT ENOUGH AIR BECAUSE OF THE BLOWERS SIZE OF THE PIPE.

WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS.

I WANTED TO GET INTO WASTEWATER TREATMENT, PLANT DESIGN, BUT CAN YOU INCREASE THE HEADERS AND, AND ADD ADDITIONAL DROPS AND STILL MAKE USE THE SAME BLOWERS OR THE BLOWERS MAXING OUT AMOUNT OF VOLUME THAT THEY CAN PUT OUT? IS IT A COMBINATION OF BOTH? POSSIBLY.

POSSIBLY.

AND THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL GET INTO ONCE WE REALLY DIVE INTO THIS AND START LOOKING AT THE REDESIGN OF IT ALL.

WE KNOW THERE'S AN ISSUE NOW, IS THERE A, A WAY LIKE THAT TO FIX IT, YOU KNOW, A HYBRID WAY TO FIX IT? POSSIBLY.

WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO THAT PART YET.

WE JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE OF US PUSHING AIR.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DIFFUSERS.

YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW.

UNTIL WE DIVE INTO THIS AND REALLY LOOK INTO IT, IT SEEMS YOU WOULD KNOW IF YOUR BLOWERS ARE BIG ENOUGH.

YOU JUST NEED TO HAVE THE PIPES AND MORE DIFFUSERS.

IF, IF YOU MAXED OUT THE BLOWERS, YOU MAY HAVE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE BLOWERS.

THESE ARE THINGS I THINK YOU SHOULD KNOW TODAY.

THESE, IF THESE, YOU WANNA IDENTIFY YOUR SHORTFALLS SO YOU CAN FIX THEM.

AND IF THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED WELL, OKAY, IF NOT, THEN THAT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL BEHIND A POWER CURVE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE YES.

I, YES, I UNDERSTAND.

UM, I'M TRYING TO GO THROUGH HERE WHERE IT SAYS, AND I, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO PUSH.

DO Y'ALL HAVE, YEAH.

THEY'LL GO OVER THAT IN THERE.

DON'T WE AGREE YOU OVER THAT? IF THAT'S NOT IN YOUR, OKAY.

IS THERE, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THOUGH, JUST ON THE BACK HISTORY OF IT AND WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, AS FAR AS AMMONIA LEVELS OPERATION OF THE PLANT? YEAH.

WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN BUILT ANOTHER CAR THAT WE, THAT THIS PLANT WASN'T EVEN DESIGNED FOR.

THEY DIDN'T EVEN THINK, WELL, THEY MAY HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, 20, 30 YEARS AGO THE PARAMETERS WERE X, NOW THERE ARE TWO X.

YES, YES.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE HARDWARE OUT THERE TO, TO MEET IT.

NOT ONLY HAVE THEY ADDED MORE PARAMETERS, BUT THEY'VE ALSO SLOWLY SHRUNK THOSE PARAMETERS DOWN WHERE WE HAVE TO FIT INTO A TIGHTER WINDOW.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY BEING BACKED IN THE CORNER WHERE WE HAVE TO ADAPT TO MEET THESE TCEQ STANDARDS IS WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO.

ALRIGHT.

PASS.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL.

IN, UH, JANUARY, WE DELIVERED THE TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT TO THE CITY, AND, UH, WE DELIVERED THAT IN WRITTEN FORM.

AND IN FEBRUARY WE MET WITH CITY, UH, REPRESENTATIVES TO VET THAT REPORT.

AND, UH, WE CAME TO A CONCLUSION OF THE TOP THREE THINGS THAT THE CITY NEEDED TO LOOK AT.

UH, WE HAVE PROVIDED FOUR HANDOUTS FOR YOU.

SO THEY'RE LARGER THAN, UM, OUR, UM, PRESENTATION.

'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DATA IN THERE.

SO THERE'S FOUR HANDOUTS FOR YOU.

UM, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY SELECTIONS.

AND THE NEXT STEPS AT THIS TIME WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PHASE TWO ASSESSMENT.

UH, IN THE BEGINNING WE HAD ONE ASSESSMENT AND WE DECIDED TO HAVE THREE ASSESSMENTS WITH THE CITY.

SO THE TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT IS THE FIRST ONE, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S COMPLETED.

AND THAT'S THE DATA THAT WE'RE GONNA SHARE WITH YOU THIS EVENING.

PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE ARE TO FINALIZE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND TO GET YOUR PLAN STAMPED AND GET YOU READY FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THE TCEQ SITUATION IS NOW NEW SINCE WE MET IN FEBRUARY.

UM, BRIAN POTAGER, THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT MANAGER THAT YOU GOES TO SEEING IS NOT AVAILABLE, UH, TONIGHT, BUT I HAVE WITH ME TROY HODGKISS.

TROY HAS BEEN ON OUR TEAM.

UM, TROY HAS 30 YEARS OF WASTEWATER EXPERIENCE AND KNOWS THE SCOPE OF WORK AND WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY.

UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS AT THIS MOMENT.

AT THE BACK END OF THE, UM, DISCUSSION OF YOUR SCOPE, WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GONNA BE AND HOW WE GO ABOUT THAT AND, AND WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO.

SO TROY, THANK YOU SO MUCH, DEBORAH.

IN RELATIVELY LATE IN THIS PROCESS.

SO, UM, YEAH, WE'RE GOOD ON OUTSIDE.

QUICK INTRODUCTION.

TROY HOTCHKISS.

I AM A, WE CALL A SENIOR SOLUTION ARCHITECT.

WHY WE CALL ENGINEERS ARCHITECTS.

I HAVEN'T GOT MY HEAD AROUND YET.

UH, SPICE TO SAY MR. CRUSTY OLD WASTEWATER GUY.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT 32 YEARS NOW.

UH, DONE QUITE A FEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS IN TEXAS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

UM, GOT BROUGHT

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GOT TO LOOK OVER BRIAN'S, UH, SHOULDER, IF YOU WILL.

LOOK OVER AT DEBORAH.

GOT TO THROW A LOT OF ROCKS INSIDE OUR GLASS HOUSE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

AND I FELT REALLY GOOD ABOUT WHERE THINGS WERE GOING, ESPECIALLY WHEN I LOOKED AT WHAT FREEZING NICHOLS HAD DONE AFTER, AFTER SCHNEIDER GOT STARTED, FRIES AND NICHOLS WAS BROUGHT INTO A, A FULL CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF THE PLANT THAT VALIDATED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY UNDER CONSIDERATION.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW HERE, WE TALK ABOUT MEASURES.

UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A TERM WE THROW AROUND IN HERE CALLED ECMS THAT ARE ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES.

AND UNDER OUR, OUR ESCO CONTRACTING, THOSE ARE WHAT WE CALL PROJECTS OR SUB-PROJECTS.

THEY'RE DEFINABLE PIECES OF THE DELIVERABLE.

UM, AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE MEASURES VETTED ON THE LEFT WERE THE SIX THINGS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS CASE FOR US TO LOOK AT AS PART OF WHAT WE CALL THE FIRST PHASE IGA PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

WHAT IS CONCEPTUAL? WHAT IS THE BEST LOW HANGING FRUIT, IF YOU WILL? WHEN WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THIS IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, WE REORDERED A FEW THINGS, KIND OF MESHED A COUPLE THINGS TOGETHER.

SOME MORE DATA WAS PROVIDED.

SO THOSE WERE THE THREE PRIORITIES THAT WE KINDA SET DOWN WITH STAFF WALKED THROUGH, HERE'S ALL THE NEEDS YOU HAVE TODAY.

WHEN I CAME INTO THE PROJECT, WE ASKED A FEW MORE QUESTIONS AND LOOKED AT HOW THINGS WERE GOING.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, AFTER GOING THROUGH A COUPLE OF CHARETTES WITH STAFF WITH CITI, WHAT THINGS WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT.

AND REALLY IS DRIVEN BY THE CONDITION WHERE THINGS ARE IN REGULATORY NEEDS OF TRYING TO KEEP THE CITY IN COMPLIANCE AND PUTTING TOGETHER A PACKAGE THAT WE WOULD ADVANCE TO BE A MORE TRUE PRELIMINARY DESIGN STAGE BEYOND THE CONCEPT DESIGN.

SO THE AERATION, DIFFUSERS, AERATION BLOWERS, PLANT REUSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD ADVANCE TO A PHASE TWO IGA.

AND I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH THAT, THAT TERM IT'S, IT'S FULL DESIGN WOULD BE PHASE TWO, WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE 60 TO 90% PLANS DI DIFFERING ON EACH INDIVIDUAL SPECIALTY, WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A PRICE.

YOU CAN GUARANTEE THE CITY, THE FOUR OR FIVE AND SIX ALTERNATIVES.

CHLORINE CONTACT BASINS WERE SOME OTHER ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES THAT ARE GREAT IDEAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

THEY JUST DON'T PAY FOR THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE NOT NEEDED FOR REGULATORY COMPLIANCE.

SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE DONE.

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE FOCUS FROM A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THE FREEZING NICKEL STUDY.

THERE'S A LOT MORE MODERNIZATION, A LOT MORE BRINGING THE PLANT UP TO SPEED, IF YOU WILL.

BUT THE TOP THREE ARE WHAT YOU REALLY NEED TODAY.

IF WE COULD ADVANCE THE SLIDES, JUMP INTO WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT.

SO FROM THAT PRIORITY LIST, AND AGAIN, THAT ECM, THE ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES DON'T GET TOO, UH, WRAPPED UP IN THE TERMINOLOGY.

THEY'RE JUST INDIVIDUAL SUB-PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS WAYS TO SAVE MONEY TO FIND PROJECTS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY PAY FOR THEMSELVES THE ECM TWO A AND ONE A.

THAT'S WHERE WE REPACKAGE SOME OF THOSE IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY GOES TOGETHER.

THOSE REALLY NEED TO BE A SINGLE PROJECT.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE IGA WAS SET UP, THEY KIND OF LOST THEIR DEFINITION OF THE DEFINITIONS WERE SEPARATED.

UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, PUTTING IN THE FINE BUBBLE DIFFUSERS, AND THIS KIND OF GOES TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE BASIN NOW? AND I, I WENT TO THE PLANT TODAY, SPENT A LITTLE TIME OUT THERE WITH OLGA, UH, GOD BLESS OLGA FOR WHAT SHE'S DOING.

SHE'S MAKING THAT PLANT OPERATE.

UH, AND HOW SHE'S ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT SHE'S AMAZING WOMAN AND OPERATOR.

SO I'LL CREDIT TO HER AND THE STAFF OUT THERE.

UH, RIGHT NOW, WHAT STAFF YOU HAD DONE A YEAR AGO WAS TO PUT IN A HANDFUL OF FINE BUBBLE DIFFUSERS, WHICH TAKE A LITTLE BIT, STEP BACK, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

NOT NOT VERY VIGOROUS MIXING AND SPLASHING AND LOTS OF AIR GOING IN THE BASEMENT.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S DOING SOMETHING YOU ACTUALLY WANT, LIKE CHAMPAGNE, GLASS, A LOT OF LITTLE BUBBLES.

VERY LOW ENERGY THAT'S GETTING THE OXYGEN INTO THE WASTEWATER.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BIG KEY HERE.

WHAT WE, WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE WAS A GREAT IDEA, JUST NOT ENOUGH OF IT.

THE BLOWERS THAT YOU HAVE NOW CAN ACTUALLY BE MADE TO WORK IN THE FUTURE.

THERE'S SOME CONDITIONS THOSE BLOWERS WOULD BE GOOD TO INVEST A LITTLE MONEY INTO REHABBING THOSE RE YOU CAN ACTUALLY RE REMANUFACTURE THE TERM WE'RE USING NOW.

BUT WE LOOK AT ECM ONE A AS ADDING A HYBRID PD BLOWER TO SUPPLEMENT ONE BASELINE LARGE BLOWER RATHER THAN ALL THREE.

SO WE CAN ACTUALLY MATCH, DO MATCH ENERGY WITH WHAT THE PLANT ACTUALLY NEEDS, ESPECIALLY TRYING TO HIT NITROGEN, TRYING TO GET YOUR NUTRIENT REMOVAL WHERE WE'RE NOT PUSHING SO MUCH AIR IN THERE AND SPENDING LOTS OF ENERGY TO MEET COMPLIANCE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROL, A LITTLE BIT OF SOPHISTICATION, AND ACTUALLY MATCH WHAT THE NEEDS ARE WITH THE ENERGY YOU HAVE TO SPEND.

AND THE THIRD ONE, UH, PLANT WATER REUSE IS, AGAIN, KIND OF LOW HANGING FRUIT.

THAT'S, THAT'S A PROJECT THAT TAKING THE PLANT OFF THE PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM, REUSING THE TREATED EFFLUENT, YOU SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY TO CREATE INSIDE THE PLANT FOR ALL THE SERVICE WATER THAT PAYS FOR ITSELF VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

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THESE ARE ONES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE POTENTIAL TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES.

START LOOKING FINANCIALLY ATTRACTIVE, IF YOU WILL, MOVING FORWARD.

SO IF WE CAN ADVANCE THE SLIDES ONE IN THIS CASE A LITTLE BIT DOWN INTO THE NITTY GRITTY.

THIS, THIS IS THE ENGINEER STUFF THAT I REALLY LOVE TO DO.

AND I I'M VERY MUCH JUST THE TECHNICAL GUY BY THE WAY.

UM, IN THE HANDOUTS, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, THE SCORING MATRIX WE PUT TOGETHER.

IT'S NOT JUST WHAT IS THE CHEAPEST, WHAT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT, IT'S REALLY WHAT ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER SOFTER CRITERIA.

HOW MUCH MAINTENANCE DOES IT TAKE? HOW MUCH TLC, HOW RELIABLE IS IT? WHAT IS THE LIFECYCLE COST OF SOME OF THESE THINGS? WE GET INTO SOME OF THOSE SUBJECTIVE CRITERIA, SIT DOWN WITH STAFF, WITH OPERATORS.

WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE SOMETHING DOWN OPERATORS THROAT.

THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND OR WANT OR UNDER KNOW HOW TO OPERATE QUICKLY, WHICH IS GOOD.

UH, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THE RANKINGS OF ALL THE OPTIONS, BUT YOU CAN UN YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WHERE THE ECM NUMBERS ONE A, B, C, D, TWO, A, B, C, ALL THE SUB, UH, I WANNA SAY SUBTOPICS IF YOU WILL, KIND OF GETTING A LITTLE FINER POINT ON EACH ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS WHERE WE HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS TO SOLVE A PARTICULAR PROBLEM.

WE LOOKED AT WITH STAFF, WHAT IS THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE CITY TO MOVE, MOVE THESE FORWARD.

UM, AGAIN, I DON'T NEED TO BE BELABOR ALL OF THESE.

UH, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERESTING.

WHEN WE LAY ALL THESE OUT AND WE START LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE CAPITAL COST TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS, WHAT ARE THE ENERGY SAVINGS, UH, OTHER CONSUMPTIVE SAVINGS USUALLY IN WATER OR IN MAINTENANCE COSTS, LABOR AND PARTS WHERE THE OPERATIONS START LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL HARD DOLLARS OF WHAT THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE AND WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS TO THE CITY OF MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE.

AND IN THE YELLOW COLUMN, YOU SEE THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAD SELECTED AS A TEAM THAT WE THINK WE OUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

UH, WHICH I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE QUICK MATH IS ON THAT I'VE SLEPT SINCE THIS THING WAS DONE.

I WANT TO SAY RIGHT AROUND $6 MILLION, GIVE OR TAKE.

BUT THIS SUMMARIZES IN A DIFFERENT WAY THE PROCESS.

WE WENT THROUGH VERY GRANULAR, VERY METICULOUS WITH BUY-IN FROM ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AT THE CITY.

SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.

AND WE HAD BUY-IN FROM STAFF TO OWNERSHIP TO MANAGEMENT AND OKAY.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK, UNLESS Y'ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL PROBABLY TURN IT BACK TO DEBORAH.

SO HOW MANY BLOWERS ARE Y'ALL SUGGESTING TO REPLACE? UH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD ONLY ADD ONE PD BLOWER THE HYBRID.

REBUILD THE OTHERS SLOWLY.

WHAT, AND I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

WHAT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW? UH, MULTI-STAGE.

RIFS.

THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED.

YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF THE CLASSIC.

THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE STANDARD AND THEY'RE EASY TO REBUILD ON THE FLY.

BETWEEN BEARINGS, EQUIPMENT, MY MECHANICAL SKILLS MIGHT NOT BE AS GOOD AS YOU .

I'VE TRIED, I'VE, I'VE I'VE WORKED IN QUITE A FEW WASTE WATER FACILITIES.

UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THOUGHT.

UM, HONESTLY, I WAS THINKING THAT WE'D HAVE AN OLD DRUM STALL BLOWER HER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SQUIRREL.

WELL, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A SQUIRREL CAGE PER SE.

UM, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THAT.

BUT, UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE WANTING TO USE A PD BLOWER KIND OF AS A SWING UNIT TO COMPENSATE? CORRECT.

WHY WOULDN'T YOU USE ANOTHER CENTURY BLOWER? UH, JUST THE BLOWER CURVES THAT WE, WE HAVE OUT THERE, BECAUSE YOU GOT REALLY DEEP BASINS, YOU HAVE RELATIVELY HIGH BLOWERS.

UH, THESE ARE 20, 22 FOOT SUBMERGED DIFFUSERS, USUALLY AROUND 16, 17.

UM, SO WHAT YOU HAVE NOW, IF WE TURN DOWN THE BLOWERS YOU HAVE, WE COME OFF THE CURVE ON THE PRESSURE, WHAT YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY RUN THAT PLANT REALLY FAST.

UH, THOSE MULTI STATION ALS HAVE A VERY, VERY FLAT CURVE AND ALL WE'RE ON VFDS AND WE CAN CONTROL A LITTLE BIT TO TRY TO SAVE SOME ENERGY.

MM-HMM, , YOU'RE, YOU'RE OFF THE CURVE.

YOU, YOU'RE FIGHTING YOURSELF TRYING TO, UH, UH, TRYING, TRYING TO THINK OF AN EASY ANALOGY.

YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPENDING DOLLARS TO SAVE NICKELS AND IT IS JUST NOT WORTH IT.

WELL, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONCEPT OF THE BLOWERS AND THEIR EFFICIENCY ISLANDS WITH CRIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M LOOKING AT THOUGH, IF YOU STRAY AWAY FROM A CENTURY, YOU DON'T ADD ANOTHER SPARE IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE A, IF YOU PUT A PD IN YOU, YOU'VE GOT YOUR SWINGING UNIT, BUT YOU EFFECTIVELY MISS OUT ON HAVING AN, AN ADDITIONAL BLOWER IN LINE AS A SPARE, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE BASICALLY RUNNING ON

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ONE BLOWER.

THERE'S TWO OTHERS INSTALLED IN THE FOURTH IN THE SHOP THAT'S READY TO GO BACK IN.

SO THERE'S, SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

NO.

SO THE WAY WE TREAT THE CENTRIFUGALS WOULD BE THAT THAT WOULD BE YOUR BASE BLOWER, RUN IT ALL DAY EVERY DAY FULL OUT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST OPTIMAL POINT.

AND YOU HAVE THE PD, THE, THE NEW, I DON'T WANNA USE A BRAND NAME OR, OR TRADE NAME.

UM, THEIR CURVES ARE MUCH STEEPER.

SO IT GIVES YOU A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO TUNE THOSE IN AND OUT, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET YOUR HORSEPOWER KILOWATT SAVINGS GOING WITH THAT TECHNOLOGY.

YOU WANNA HAVE A GOOD CONTROL PACKAGE.

WELL, AND, AND A AND WITH A, WITH A PD BLOWER, YOU CAN REDUCE THE RRP M AND EFFECT.

EFFECTIVELY REDUCE THE FLOW.

IF YOU DO THAT ON A CENTURY, YOU'RE GONNA DROP OFF .

WE BAD THINGS HAPPEN FAST.

WE RECONDITION THESE, THIS IS MY JOB.

UH, BACK TO YOUR, UH, SLIDE WHERE YOU WERE SAVING $300,000 IN WATER COSTS.

YES SIR.

WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME ON, IS THAT $300,000 PER YEAR? PER WHAT? WHAT IS PER YEAR? YES.

THAT'S OUR WATER BILL.

SO, SO THAT, THAT PROJECT IS $300,000.

SO ONCE YOU IMPLEMENT IT, YOU'RE GAINING, LIKE THE SLIDE SAID, A COUPLE HUNDRED CONNECTIONS PLUS THAT WATER'S NOW SELLABLE TO SOMEONE ELSE AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING TWICE FOR THE WATER.

YOU'RE PAYING FOR BWA WATER TO GO IN.

PLUS YOU'RE PAYING THE ENERGY COST AND MAINTENANCE COSTS THAT THE TREAT, THAT SAME WATER.

MY QUESTION IS ASKING TODAY, WHAT IS THE COST TO THE CITY FOR THE WATER THAT, THAT WE'RE USING OUT THERE? IS IT $300,000 OR ARE WE GOING TO GET, WE'RE GONNA GET THE $300,000.

OH, I APOLOGIZE.

SAVINGS FOR, I DON'T HAVE THAT FOR YES.

UM, THAT'S THE COST SPENDING.

HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING ON WATER OUT THERE RIGHT NOW? THE EQUIVALENT OF $300,000.

SO, SO AS SOON AS WE A HUNDRED PERCENT IMPLEMENT THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF WATER IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR YES.

SALE TO THE PUBLIC.

SO WE'VE BEEN, TODAY THE WATER COSTS $300,000.

TOMORROW THE WATER'S GONNA COST $325,000.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AS AS VWA INCREASES THEIR PRICE, THE COST OF THAT WATER JUST INCREASE.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

IT'S BEEN COSTING US FOR THE PAST HOWEVER MANY YEARS WE'VE BEEN USING THIS.

WE'VE JUST BEEN THROWING WATER DOWN, DOWN THE CREEK, BASICALLY.

LITERALLY.

IT'S AN, IT'S AN EASY FIX.

I MEAN, FOR SAVINGS.

I THANK YOU FOR IDENTIFYING THAT.

SO, ONE OTHER QUESTION.

YOU'RE GONNA CON AUTOMATIC CONTROL OFF OF THE DIS SOLID OXYGEN, NOT AIRFLOW.

WHAT'S THE, WELL, WE'LL BE MEASURING AIRFLOW TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HEATING UP WITH AILE.

SO THAT WOULD BE A SECONDARY, THAT WOULD BE PRIMARY CONTROL.

PROBABLY GO TO, TO A, A AMMONIA CONTROL.

HONESTLY, AMMONIA'S GONNA BE CONTROLLING THE SIZE OF THAT LINE.

IS YOUR, YOU'RE GONNA BE REPLACING A LOT OF PIPING OUT THERE OR JUST ADDING TO, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE HEADERS THAT ARE LEADING OUT TO THE AERATION BASINS ARE BIG ENOUGH.

YOU GOTTA ADD TO 'EM WHAT, WHAT? NO, I THINK WHAT'S YOUR INITIAL FEELING? MY, MY INITIAL FUEL IS THE HEADERS ARE FINE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL WITHIN THE ONE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO TWO, THAT'S NOT, NOT A BAD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

THERE'S LEAKS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED.

SO THE DIFFUSERS YOU FIND, THE AMOUNT OF DIFFUSION DIFFUSION YOU HAVE ARE, ARE ACTUALLY YOUR BOTTLENECK.

THAT'S WHERE YOUR RESTRICTION IS, CORRECT? YEAH.

THE, UH, SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH FINE BUBBLE DIFFUSION AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN A BASIN, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

UH, AND WHEN I TALKED TO THE MANU MEETING WITH THE MANUFACTURER DAY AFTER TOMORROW, AND THEY REALLY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NUMBERS ACTUALLY ARE GOING, HOW MUCH AIR IS GOING THROUGH THOSE DIFFUSERS RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE WAY, THEY'RE PUSHED WAY OVERLOADED.

BUT THIS MEETING PERMIT, AND THAT'S RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE DRIVING FORCE.

ARE YOU PROPOSING? UH, AS A BLOWER, .

DOES THIS PROCESS INCLUDE REFURB, OUR OTHER, WAS IT THE BLOWERS THAT YOU SAID THAT WE COULD REFURBISH OR WE CAN USE THE TERM REFURBISH? DOES THAT CLASS INCLUDE THAT? I'M SORRY? DOES THIS PRICE INCLUDE THAT OR THAT? NOT THAT IT DOES NOT.

THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE KIND OF AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE BUDGET.

WE'D HOPE Y'ALL BE ON, WE HAVE, WE ROOM WITHIN OUR FOOTPRINT OUT THERE TO ADD THIS BLOWER THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WE GOTTA YES, SIR.

EXPAND THE BUILDING.

WE, WE CAN DO IT.

WHAT ARE Y'ALL PROPOSING? SORRY? WHAT

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I, I, I REP THEM FOR YEARS.

THERE, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW.

UH, I BASICALLY IDENTICAL, I'VE HAD BEST LUCK WITH S ARIZONA.

I USED TO HAVE AN OEM AGREEMENT WITH MARKS ARE IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE.

MARKS ARE EASY TO GET THERE.

PLENTY OF DISTRIBUTORS AROUND MAKES SENSE.

KIND OF WHAT I FIGURED YOU'D GO WITH OR WE'RE STILL GONNA COMPETE 'EM AGAINST EVERYBODY.

, MAKE NO MISTAKE.

THERE WERE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

YES, SIR.

WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS PAGE HERE, WITH ALL THE COSTS AND WHAT I'M USED TO SEEING, WHEN I SEE A NEGATIVE, THAT'S A, A SAVINGS IN THE, IN THE SAVINGS COLUMN, BUT THEN YOU HAVE DEBIT OR POSITIVE NUMBERS.

SO I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND WHAT THE TOTAL SAVINGS IS IN THAT COLUMN.

AND IS THAT AN ANNUAL SAVINGS? AND THEN ARE WE SAYING THAT IF IT'S A NEGATIVE 55,000, THEN IT'S A ADDITIONAL COST? OR IS THAT A SAVINGS? NO, UM, IT'S A SAVINGS.

IT'S A SAVINGS.

UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T VETTED THROUGH BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED SCOPE.

SO WE STILL, THINGS ARE CHANGING EVERY DAY OUT THERE.

AND AS WE'RE GETTING DATA AND LOOKING AT THE BILLS AND HAVING OUR TEAM GO OUT THERE AND WITH OUR MEETING, UH, WITH THE CITY, UM, WE'RE BRINGING MORE INFORMATION.

SO THE TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT TOOK THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED FROM FRIESA.

WE VETTED THAT DOWN IN OUR VERY FIRST MEETINGS AS TO WE CAN'T GO AFTER THE $20 MILLION LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY GAVE US.

THAT'S JUST NOT WHERE THE CITY IS.

SURE.

AND SO COLLECTIVELY, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE SPECIFICALLY NEED TO LOOK AT? AND THAT'S WHAT WAS VETTED THROUGH IN THE TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT.

SO WE'VE ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT AS A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT, WHICH SAVINGS IS GOING TO OFFSET, WHICH IS WHY THAT, UH, PLANT WATER REUSE IS HUGE, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GONNA BRING DOLLARS TO THIS.

SO ONCE WE GET INTO PHASE TWO, AND THEN WE CAN FURTHER DEVELOP THE SCOPE OF WORK, BRING BACK AGAIN, AS WE DID IN OUR FIRST ASSESSMENT AT 30%, UH, 60 AND 90% MEETING, UH, WITH YOU ON WHAT WE FOUND AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS, UM, THE PROJECT, THEN WE GET MORE ZOOMED IN ON COST, THE BACK END, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN OUR PHASE THREE, IS REALLY WHERE WE ARE BIDDING THE WORK OUT AT THAT POINT SO THAT WE HAVE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.

SO FOR TODAY, OUR EXPECTATION IS SIX TO 8 MILLION, BUT WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THAT.

I WILL TELL YOU THOUGH, YOU'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME BECAUSE WE STARTED THIS IN THE SUMMER LAST YEAR, SO WE'RE AHEAD WITH THAT DATA.

WE IDENTIFIED A LOT OF THIS IN 2014 AND THE CITY JUST WASN'T IN A POSITION TO ADDRESS IT.

SO NOW WE'RE FACED WITH, WE HAVE AN URGENT NEED AT THE PLANT AND WE HAVE THE STATE AUTHORITIES THAT WE NEED TO PLEASE AND GET INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO, UM, NUMBERS ARE STILL MOVING AROUND UNTIL WE VET THAT.

UH, THE SAVINGS COMPONENT IS ALSO BROUGHT TO YOU IN VERY SPECIFICS.

UM, I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS PROJECT TO PAY FOR ITSELF OVER TIME 'CAUSE OF THE NEEDS OF THE PLANT.

THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING SAVINGS TO THE TABLE TO OFFSET THAT COST.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT COLUMN THAT YOU HAVE IN SAVINGS YES.

WHY DO, WHY ARE SOME OF THE NUMBERS NEGATIVE AND SOME OF 'EM POSITIVE? RIGHT.

BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WOULD SAVE EACH YEAR.

SO THOSE ARE OUR SAVINGS NUMBERS.

SO PARENTHESES OR NUMBERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN VETTED YET? YES.

SO, SO, SO THE ONES THAT, THE ONES THAT ARE NOT IN PARENTHESES, YOU'RE PRETTY SURE THAT'S CORRECT? YES.

THE ONES THAT ARE IN PARENTHESES ARE ASSUMED NUMBERS THAT MAY BE CORRECT.

AND I APOLOGIZE I DON'T HAVE THAT DOCUMENT.

ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION.

HOW DID Y'ALL CALCULATE THE COST PER END USER? WELL, WE ACTUALLY TALKED WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT THAT, AND WE VETTED OUT, UM, THE NUMBER OF METERS THAT WERE THERE AND WHAT THE COST OF THE PROJECT IS.

UH, WE, WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING IT TO BE, LET ME, LET ME JUMP IN.

SO WE JUST DID SOME RAW MAP.

UH, WE'RE AT 6,400 CONNECTIONS RIGHT NOW.

93 30? YES.

WELL, BUT ONCE, ONCE WE'RE BUILT OUT WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT, WE'LL BE AT 93 30.

SO THAT'S THE END STATE.

SO THAT WE JUST DID THE QUICK MATH, 6 MILLION DIVIDED BY NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS DIVIDED BY 12 MONTHS IS AS A POTENTIAL BILL.

AND THAT'S, SO THAT'S A SLIDING SCALE.

SO RIGHT NOW IT'S GONNA BE MORE, BUT AS THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS GROWS, UM, IT'LL, IT, IT WILL DE DECREASE OVER TIME.

THE ACTUAL COST.

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SO IT'S, THAT'S JUST A RAW FUZZY NUMBER JUST TO KIND OF PUT IN PERSPECTIVE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT BUSINESSES, YOU CAN LOOK AT, I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SENIOR RATES OR CREDIT CARD USERS OR DIRECT, I MEAN, ALL THOSE THINGS YOU CAN ALL FACTOR INTO WHAT, WHAT THOSE, THE BASE RATES ARE.

SO HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT? NEXT SLIDE.

ALL RIGHT, SO THE PHASE ONE IGA WAS $125,000.

THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED.

I SENT THAT TO Y'ALL.

YOU GOT IT.

THAT'S WHAT THIS SHEET IS.

IT DOES LOOK LIKE ONE, YES, I FOUGHT AGAINST THE COLOR SCHEME, BUT WHAT DO I KNOW? SO PHASE ONE WAS 1 25, WE COMPLETED THAT, DELIVERED IT TO YOU IN, UH, JANUARY.

UH, WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE EXPEDITED, WHICH IS COMBINING PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE TOGETHER.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS IT SHORTENS OUR DEVELOPMENT TIME BECAUSE THERE'S NO PAUSE AND IT ACTUALLY SAVES DOLLARS ALMOST $50,000 FOR THE CITY TO PROPOSE IT THAT WAY.

ORIGINALLY WE DIDN'T PROPOSE IT THAT WAY, BUT AGAIN, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TCEQ LETTER IN FEBRUARY.

AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A WAY IN ORDER TO FINISH THIS PROJECT SOONER.

AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT CONVERSATIONS CAN BE HAD WITH TCEQ ABOUT THE SITUATION THAT YOU ARE IN DEVELOPMENT OF A PLAN TO CORRECT THE SITUATION AND THE PLAN.

SO NEGOTIATIONS CAN BE HAD THERE.

SO THIS VOTES WELL THAT YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR, YOUR PO EXCUSE ME, YOUR POCKET TO DO THAT.

SO PHASE TWO IS AT 350,000.

PHASE THREE IS 200,000.

IF YOU DO THOSE SEPARATELY.

AND THEN IF WE COMBINE THOSE TWO, IT'S 625 EXPEDITED.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT $50,000 SAVINGS FOR THAT.

WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED 820,000 WHEN WE FIRST GOT STARTED.

AND SO NOW WE'RE AT 6 25 FOR THE FINALIZING OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLANT.

UM, THE GRAY BLOCK IS WHAT WE HAD JUST DISCUSSED ON HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.

AND, UH, THE NEXT STEPS ARE, UM, WE REALLY NEED TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE PROJECT, RIGHT? SO THE CITY HAS, UM, SOME HOMEWORK TO, TO DO TO DECIDE WHAT THAT FUND IS GOING TO BE.

AND THEN, UH, AND THEN DECIDE IF YOU WANNA DO PHASE TWO IN PHASE THREE, OR IF YOU WANNA EXPEDITE THAT, UM, OUR TEAM IS PREPARED TO GET STARTED RIGHT AWAY.

WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENT LANGUAGE TO BRING TO JUDY AND, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

SO ALTHOUGH WE HAVE THIS AS A DECISION POSSIBLE ACTION, UM, WHATEVER YOUR PLEASURE IS, IT'LL PROBABLY BE AT LEAST 30 DAYS IF A DECISION IS MADE BEFORE WE CAN GET UNDERWAY.

SO, CHRIS, IDEAS ON PAYMENT, ARE WE, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN CAPACITY ACQUISITION FEES COLLECTED AND AVAILABLE THERE? SO, UM, IF I CAN RECALL, UH, THE, WHAT DO WE CALL THAT, JOHN? THE MASTER UTILITY PLAN? OH, THE IMPACT FEE STUDY AND THE MASTER UTILITY.

SO WE'VE ALREADY DESIGNATED MONEY TOWARD THAT AND METER, METER THE METERS TOWARD THAT.

SO I THINK WE'VE KIND OF USED UP, UH, THAT THOSE FUNDS.

OKAY, SO FUND BALANCE FROM WHAT? WATER SEWER.

SO THERE'S, UM, I THINK, UH, PHIL TOLD ME THERE'S LIKE $5 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE FOR THE UTILITY FUND.

WE GOT A WINNER.

WHAT ALSO HELPS HERE IS THE 1 25 THAT WE'VE COMPLETED THAT WORK ON OUR CONTRACT IS IF WITHIN 90 DAYS WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PHASE, THEN WE ROLL THAT COST FORWARD AND Y'ALL WON'T BE PAYING THAT RIGHT AWAY.

IF YOU DON'T DO IT THAT WAY, WE WOULD SUBMIT THE INVOICE AND THEN WAIT FOR YOU TO INSTRUCT US ON WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GONNA BE.

SO THAT'S ONE WAY TO DEFER AS YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH EITHER YOUR RATE STUDY OR YOUR DERIVATIVE OF THE FUNDS FOR YOUR PROJECT.

SO IT'S EASY TO SAY 5 MILLION, BUT I JUST WONDER OPERATING FUNDS, HOW MANY DAYS IS THAT? DO WE KNOW THE 5 MILLION? I, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK WE'RE OVER ONE 20.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

IT SHOULDN'T HURT TAKING FROM THERE.

AND YOU'RE NEEDING 6 25? WELL, THAT'D BE NEXT YEAR.

BUT THAT WOULD BE THE COST OF THE EXPEDITED.

THE TOTAL COST OF THE EXPEDITED PROJECT.

THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY FREEZING NICHOLS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU CONTINUALLY BY HDR ARE REAL AND NEED TO BE FIGURED INTO THE FUTURE PLAN.

AND UM, I, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, TO DOVETAIL ON TROY'S COMMENTS.

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WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.

UH, SO WE DON'T DIMINISH ANY OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN OUT THERE AT THE PLANT.

UH, CLEARLY YOUR CITY IS GROWING AND NEED TO PREPARE FOR THAT, BUT THESE THINGS ARE WHAT NEEDS, UH, IS GONNA HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT RIGHT AWAY ON ALL LEVELS FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN COMPLIANCE AND, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE PLANT.

THE LAST TIME WE HAD AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP, WE TOOK IMMEDIATE ACTION AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT'S A HARD CHUNK TO, TO TAKE OUT AND, AND DO, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO.

WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THAT WATER TREATMENT PLANT GOING DOWN.

IT'S NOT, WE GOT SO WELL, I'VE BEATEN MY DRUM FOR ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS NOW, SO , SO MAKE A MOTION WHILE WE, WHATEVER MONEY WE DESIGNATED TOWARDS GETTING THESE OUT ITEMS TAKEN CARE OF, WE'RE STILL HAVING MONIES COMING IN.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DEPLETING OUR WHOLE BANK ACCOUNT.

AND I MAINTAIN THAT THE $300,000 IS A, IS A LIGHT NUMBER BECAUSE YOU START LOOKING AT ALL THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH NOT JUST THE NUMBER OF GALLONS THAT GO OUT THERE TO THE PLANT, BUT THE, BUT THE CHLORINE THAT WE CHLORINES THAT WE PUT INTO THE WATER, THE, THE PUMPING THAT WE PUMP THE WATER OUT THERE, THAT'S AT THE TAIL END OF THE LAND.

OKAY? SO THAT, THAT DOLLAR IT, IT COSTS THE MOST TO GET THAT WATER OUT THERE THAN ANY OTHER PLACE HERE IN TOWN.

SO IT'S, UH, AS SOON AS WE CAN GET OFF THE, THE MAIN WATER MAIN GOING OUT THERE, THE SOONER WE CAN START RECOUPING THOSE COSTS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT'S GONNA PAY FOR ITSELF IN TWO YEARS, I'M CONVINCED.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EXPEDITED, UH, PHASE TWO AND THREE, FINAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT, PLANT IMPROVEMENTS, PULLING FROM FUND BALANCE FROM WASTEWATER TREATMENT OR WASTEWATER WITH WATER, WATER BALANCE, FUND BALANCE.

I SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTON, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR APPROVAL.

UH, SUBJECT TO THEIR COMMENTS.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

OH, AHEAD.

JUST, I'M NOT GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE, BUT YOU'RE GIVEN A GO AHEAD TONIGHT.

JUST ANTICIPATING PLANS DEVELOPMENT BIDDING TO HAVE A FINISHED PRODUCT.

ARE WE LOOKING AT A YEAR? WE LOOKING AT 18 MONTHS? WE LOOKING AT, YEAH, WE'RE AT A YEAR.

UM, TROY WILL BE FASTER.

MY TEAM IS THAT WE'RE RIGHT AT A YEAR AND I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE, .

YEAH, AND YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, BECAUSE OF THE DATE WHERE WE ARE IN THE CALENDAR NOW AS WE GET TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, FRANKLY, I MEAN, WE HAVE, THERE'S HOLIDAYS THERE, THERE'S THINGS IN THERE THAT JUST TAKE AWAY FROM OFFICE TIME.

SO, UM, AND WE'RE NOT THROUGH OUR SUMMER YET AND WE KNOW SUMMERS HERE IN TEXAS CAN BE TOUGH, BUT, UM, I WAS INSTRUCTED A YEAR, TROY'S MY SPECIALIST.

SO, UM, AND THEN, THEN WE'LL AFTER WE COMPLETE THAT, THEN WE GET OUR STAMP DRAWINGS THAT WE CAN BE READY TO GO FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE A KIND OF AN IDEA.

YES SIR.

YOU DON'T GO DOWN TO WALMART AND GET CAREFUL.

ANYTHING.

THAT'S ALL.

CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

SIX, UPDATE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN MOTION.

CARRIE, THANK YOU COUNSEL.

THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WHICH LEADS US TO THE VERY NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER

[6. Update, discussion, and possible action on the Water and Sewer Projects for the next 5 years.]

ALRIGHT, ME AGAIN.

UM, SO WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS, BRING THIS TO COUNCIL JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER THE, THE EXTRA UTILITY REVENUE THAT WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING FROM THE RECENT INCREASES AND WHAT THAT'S ACTUALLY GONE TO THIS YEAR AND WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT.

UM, SO THE, SO THE TOTAL REVENUE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY RECEIVING IS $847,000 OR $847,220.

AND OUR TOTAL CURRENT COST THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY UTILIZED TO DATE OR AT $870,503, UM, ALL EVERYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW WAS SOME IN AN EMERGENCY THAT CAME UP FOR US THAT WE HAD TO GET A CONTRACTOR IN THERE IMMEDIATELY TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF FOR US.

SO THAT'S WHAT ALL THE HIGHLIGHTED COSTS ARE.

UM, BROKE IT DOWN AS YOU HAVE SEWER ON ONE SIDE, WATER ON THE OTHER.

AND THEN ON THE WATER SIDE, UH, EVERYTHING THAT'S IN WHITE ABOVE THAT, UH, HIGHLIGHTED, UH, ITEM, THE 1216 NORTH VELASCO.

UH, THE REST OF THOSE ARE, ARE FUNDS THAT

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HAVE BEEN EITHER UTILIZED OR ARE ALREADY COMMITTED TO THOSE OTHER ITEMS. UM, AND I DID THROW IN THERE THE COST OF, UH, THE DROUGHT REPAIRS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR JUST BECAUSE I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN, THOSE ARE POSSIBLE COSTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL, BUT I, WE DID WANT TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE JUST TO SHOWCASE THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THESE ARE PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD, THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, UH, TRY TO PROCEED WITH THIS YEAR IF FUNDING WAS AVAILABLE FOR, UH, UH, THE WATER LINE REPLACEMENT ON NORTH ROCK ISLAND, WHICH IF EVERYONE REMEMBERS THAT WAS A A, AN AGENDA ITEM THAT, UH, WAS APPROVED FOR US TO DO THAT.

WE, UH, ACTUALLY HAD HDR UH, WORK ON THE DESIGN ALREADY ON IT.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE PINE PLACE, PALM PLACE AREA, WHICH RECENTLY GOT BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

AND THAT'S THE APPROXIMATE CONSTRUCTION COST OF WHAT IT WOULD BE, THE $450,000.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PROCEEDING THROUGH EACH, EACH EACH YEAR AFTER JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN 24, 25 FOR INSTANCE.

UM, THAT WOULD BE THE COST FOR US TO REPLACING ALL THOSE WATER LINES, UH, UNDER THE, UH, HIGHWAY 35.

I MEAN, UH, SORRY, 2 88 NORTH VELASCO FOR THE T PROJECT, YOU KNOW, PREEMPTIVELY BEFORE THAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S THOSE COSTS.

AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, $847,000 TO WORK WITH, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE OVER A MILLION THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

25, 26, WE HAVE A SYLVESTER ROAD, UM, BETWEEN THE PROJECT AND THE ENGINEERING COSTS, AND I ACTUALLY HAD THAT SLATED FOR 24, 25, BUT AGAIN, GOT PUSHED AHEAD BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP, COME UP THAT WE'VE HAD TO TAKE HERE.

WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO WITH SYLVESTER ROAD? UH, REPLACE THAT ENTIRE WATER LINE ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE FROM, UH, WHERE SVETA ROAD MEETS SVETA ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BECAUSE DURING THE DROUGHT WE HAD NINE LEAKS ON THAT LINE.

AND THEN ALSO JUST PREVIOUS NON DROUGHT TIMES, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF REPAIRS THAT WE'VE HAD TO DO THERE.

SO THAT'S THE REASON BEHIND REPLACING THAT ONE.

SO OLD WATER LINE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

WE HAVE A LOT OF LEAKS ON IT, I KNOW THAT, BUT MAYBE ONCE THE RECYCLING HAPPENS, I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK AT TIMING IF WE'RE GOING TO END UP FIXING THAT CY DO THE RECYCLING THING WITH THE WATER, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA USE THAT MUCH LESS WATER DOWN THERE.

I'M JUST THINKING WE GOT CLOSING ON A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK ON THAT IF I REMEMBER THE NUMBER HERE.

YES, YES.

AND, AND LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF USERS ALONG THAT MILLION DOLLARS, WHEREAS IF WE COULD SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS SOMEWHERE ELSE IN TOWN, HOW, HOW MANY USERS ARE WE GOING TO POSITIVELY AFFECT THERE? YES, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

WHAT, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, THESE WATERLINE REPLACEMENTS ARE, ARE WE DOING THOSE INTERNALLY OR ARE YOU WANTING TO VID THOSE OUT TO SOMEBODY ELSE TODAY? YES.

AND THESE ARE APPROXIMATE CONSTRUCTION COSTS? YES.

WHAT? UH, THAT WE WOULD CONTRACT THEM OUT.

WE WOULD, WE WOULD, ENGINEERING FIRM WOULD HAVE TO COME TAKE CARE OF, UM, ANYTHING OVER $50,000 WE CAN'T DO ON OUR OWN.

WE HAVE TO HIRE AN ENGINEER TO, TO COME AND WE HAVE TO BID IT OUT.

DON'T WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM BID IT TO DO THE DESIGN WORK, BUT COULDN'T WE DO THE WORK? YES, WE COULD.

IF WE HAD CREWS AVAILABLE AND THE EQUIPMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF.

WHAT EQUIPMENT WOULD YOU NEED? LET'S, LET'S TAKE OUT THE LABOR AND THE MANPOWER, BUT THE EQUIPMENT YOU WOULD NEED TO DO THIS.

WHAT WOULD YOU NEED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE NOW? UM, WELL WE, WE NEED A WHOLE NOTHER CREW JUST FOR THAT.

WE WOULD, DON'T JUST TAKE OUT THE LABOR FOR A MINUTE, LET'S START ABOUT EQUIPMENT.

UM, WE WOULD NEED, UH, REMEMBER WHEN I PRESENTED THE LARGER TRACK HOE A WHILE BACK, UM, WE WOULD NEED SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

UM, WE NEED A LARGER TRENCH BOX FOR US.

AND THEN, UM, GOSH, THAT PROBABLY, AND, AND PROBABLY ANOTHER DUMP TRUCK, JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT ONE TIED UP ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD WORK RIGHT ALONG WITH AN ENTIRE, ANOTHER CREW HAVING THEIR OWN, UH, PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, DUMP TRUCK, ALL THOSE THINGS.

YOU HIRE, YOU HIRE PEOPLE, BUT WE HAVE ENOUGH WORK PROBABLY TO KEEP SOMEBODY BUSY FOR TWO YEARS.

NOW LET'S TALK CREW.

HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU NEED TO LAY THOUSANDS OF FEET OF WATERLINE? UH, GOSH, PROBABLY FIVE TO SIX.

I'D SAY.

JUST HAVING THEM DOING THAT ALL DAY EVERY DAY.

HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO, WITH A CREW OF FIVE TO SIX WITH THE EQUIPMENT YOU HAVE PLUS THAT ONE LOADER THAT YOU NEED? HOW LONG TO DO SYLVESTER ROAD? HMM.

ONCE YOU'VE HAD YOUR ENGINEER DRAWINGS THAT SAID GO, I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT.

I'VE BEEN HERE TELL YOU IT IS GONNA COST, IT'LL TAKE TWO OR THREE TIMES AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A TRAINED CREW THAT THAT ACTUALLY DOES IT FOR BUSINESS.

SURE.

I MEAN, WE PAY A MILLION TO HAVE THIS DONE EXTERNALLY, OR WE PAID HALF THAT MOST LIKELY TO GET OUR OWN CREW AND WE START FIXING THESE LINES.

SO WE'RE PAYING FOR THE ENGINEERING WORK, BUT WE'RE DOING THE WORK IN HOUSE.

THEY'LL GET BETTER.

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JUST THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS THAT HE'S, HE'S THROWN OUT HERE.

THE ONE THING THAT WOULD BE LIMITING TO ME WOULD BE THE EQUIPMENT AND YOU, YOU'RE JUST, YOU GAVE ME ONE ITEM THAT YOU REALLY NEED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE.

AND I, WELL, FOR US THAT MAY, I LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT CECIL SAID, THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN THING FOR US IS NOT ONLY A CREW, BUT EXPERIENCE CREW WHO DOES THIS FOR A LIVING.

YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S ALL THEY DO.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE TYPICALLY DON'T HANDLE NEW CONSTRUCTION E EVER.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.

THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL WE EVER GENERALLY DO.

WE JUST MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.

UM, SO AS FAR AS NEW CONSTRUCTION, YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A BRAND NEW CREW IN HERE AND THAT, THAT'D BE THE MAIN FACTOR I'D SAY.

WILL YOU, IF YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT, JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, WOULDN'T WE EXPECT YOU TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK? SO LIKE SOME OF THESE, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE CAPITAL INVE INVESTMENTS AND TO, TO, TO TOOLS THAT HELP YOU UTILIZE AND, AND DO THE WORK YOU NEED.

I, IT WOULD, IS IT UNREASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT WITH THAT INVESTMENT IN YOUR, UH, DEPARTMENT TO ASK FOR MORE IN RETURN? THAT'S, IT'S CORRECT TO ASSUME THAT, YES.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FACT IS THE, THE WORK'S ALREADY HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE CAN PROBABLY COMPLETE ABOUT 60 TO 70% OF THE WORK ORDERS WE GET ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

I'M SURE IT WOULD HELP IF YOU FINISH THOSE WORK ORDERS.

BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS COMING UP AROUND BUDGET.

THERE'S BOND POCKET PACKAGES COS OUT THERE.

AND SO ANYWAY, JUST SEEMS TO ME, IF, IF YOU WANT SOME OF THOSE MONEY SPENT ON YOUR DEPARTMENT, THEN YOU SAY, HEY, AND WE, AND WE CAN DO THIS WITH THAT.

SO HECTOR, HOW LONG, WHEN, WHEN THE DROUGHT STARTED, WE HAD ALL THE WATERLINE BREAKS FROM THAT TIME TO WHEN WE GOT COMPLETE WITH ALL THOSE WATERLINE BREAKS.

HOW LONG WAS THAT? FOUR AND A HALF, FIVE MONTHS.

SO THE TIME WE ACTUALLY COMPLETED ALL, SO AN OPTIMAL THING WOULD BE TWO MONTHS INSTEAD OF FOUR AND A HALF TO FIVE MONTHS REPAIRING ALL THOSE BROKEN WATER LINES WITH WATER LOSS.

SURE.

IT MAKE, ALLOW YOU TO EXPEDITE THOSE, UH, CORRECTIONS.

WHICH WOULD THEN MAKE YOU MORE AVAILABLE TO FIX OTHER PROBLEMS. YES.

AND THE LARGER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WOULD ALSO MAKE US A LITTLE MORE VERSATILE.

YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER RACO YOU HAVE, THE DEEPER YOU CAN DIG.

AND WE HAVE SOME AREAS AROUND TOWN THAT ARE PRETTY DEEP.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO LARGER EQUIPMENT, YOU DIG FASTER PER SE.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A BIGGER MACHINE, RIGHT.

I MEAN, I, I MEAN I, I KNOW IT'S, THERE'S ALWAYS FLEXIBILITY WITH ANY SITUATION.

THERE ARE VARIABLES THAT CANNOT BE CONTROLLED.

I JUST, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL HAVE THE TOOLS YOU NEED, BUT I DON'T WANT INVEST IN TOOLS THAT ARE GONNA SIT ON IN A SHOP SOMEWHERE AND NOT GET UTILIZED.

YES, I UNDERSTAND.

SO, UM, THAT'S ALL, I MEAN, THOSE ARE BIG PIC THESE ARE BIG PURCHASES.

I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE NOT, AS CECIL SAID SOMETHING, YOU'RE GONNA GO TO WALMART PICK UP, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU, S BESTA ROAD HAD AN ENGINEERING LINE ITEM FOR THE FEE, BUT NONE OF THESE OTHER ONES DO THEY ALL ARE GONNA NEED 'EM, RIGHT? YES.

BUT THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN HERE THESE ESTIMATES? NO, NOT THESE ESTIMATES.

THESE ARE, SO, UH, WHAT WE ASKED OF HDR SOME TIME BACK WAS TO GIVE US JUST CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, SOME RAW COST ESTIMATES ON THIS LIST OF, UH, WATER LINE PROJECTS WE WANTED TO PRESENT.

AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THESE COSTS.

I WAS GONNA ALSO ASK YOU ABOUT GROVE AND VINE.

I THOUGHT WE WERE HAVING THE DEVELOPER OVER THERE PAY FOR THE, THE, THAT SEWER LINE TO BE REPLACED FROM PARK BACK.

SO THAT DEVELOPER IS ONLY INSTALLING A BRAND NEW SEWER LINE ON THEIR PROPERTY TO SERVICE THOSE CUSTOMERS.

IS WHAT IT, THE NEW CUSTOMERS, THE NEW HOMES ARE BUILDING.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, THAT'S WHAT THEY PROPOSED TO INSTALL THAT, THAT'S NOT HOW I REMEMBER US DISCUSSING THAT THOUGH, THAT THEY WERE GONNA PAY FOR THAT WHOLE LINE TO BE FIXED.

ADD WHEN WE HAD THE ORIGINAL, UH, KICKOFF CONSTRUCTION MEETING, THAT'S WHAT I BROUGHT UP AND THEY SAID THAT NO, THEY WERE JUST INSTALLING THE NEW LINE THERE.

THAT'S NOW THEY'RE GONNA BE PUSHING IT BACK ON THE OTHER PEOPLE.

YES, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT INITIALLY AS WELL.

AND SO IT JUST, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST DIDN'T

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SO NOW WE'RE ON THE HOOK FOR $853,000 PLUS ENGINEERING.

BUT WITH THAT WE CAN, UM, WE CAN TIE IN THE EXISTING CUSTOMERS TO THAT NEW LINE, BUT IT'LL BE ON OUR DIME.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THE LINE IN THAT ONLY THAT SECTION THOUGH.

UM, BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY GO IN THERE AND TIE IN THE EXISTING SERVICES TO THAT NEW LINE.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S ON OUR DIAL.

IT'LL SAVE US A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT A WHOLE LOT.

HOW DOES THAT GET MISSED? WELL, THEY DID, THEY, DID THEY SAY THAT THEY WERE GONNA TIE IN THE EXISTING CUSTOMERS TO THE NEW LINE? THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA LAY A NEW LINE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED WISE FOR THE, FOR THE EXISTING CUSTOMER BASE, BUT I DON'T RECALL THEM SAYING THAT THEY WERE GONNA TIE IT IN.

NOW, I MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THAT.

CECIL DO REMEMBER? I DON'T REMEMBER THAT, BUT I DO REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION EARLIER.

THAT THE LINE THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE PUT IN WOULD BE REPLACING THE LINE THAT'S THERE.

AND ONCE YOU REPLACE THE LINE, YOU TIE IN EVERYBODY THAT FEEDS INTO THAT, ARE THE PEOPLE ON THAT'S FRONT ON GROVE? WHO, WHAT, WHAT LINE ARE THEY GOING TO FEED INTO? UH, IS BECAUSE IF GROVE GROVE IS THE STREET THAT BACKS RIGHT UP TO THAT ONE.

CORRECT, SIR.

THEN YES, THEY'RE SO THEY'RE STILL ON THE EXISTING LINE THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE.

IT'S GONNA BE ABANDONED WHEN A NEW ONE GOES IN, ISN'T IT? NO, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE, THEY TIED IT IN.

HAVE THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, UH, CIVIL YES.

THE CIVIL'S ALREADY STARTED OUT THERE.

THEY'RE ALREADY LAYING SEWER LINE AND DRAINAGE AND ALL THAT.

IS IT JUST THE TRANSFER OF THE SERVICES IS ALL WE HAVE TO DO? REALLY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TRANSFER SERVICES YES.

FROM THE EXISTING HOMES TO THE BRAND? YES.

IT'S JUST TRANSFERRING.

THE, THE LINE WILL BE LAID.

YOU JUST TRANSFER FROM THE OLD LINE TO THE NEW LINE.

THEY CAN'T CONTINUE TO JUST FLOW INTO THE OLD DILAPIDATED LINE.

THEY NEED TO BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE NEW LINE.

THE OLD DILAPIDATED NOW WILL BE ABANDONED AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ENGINEERING FEES ON THAT.

THE CREW CAN HOOK THAT UP.

SO THE TAPS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE NEW LINE.

WHERE THE OLD, WHERE THE, WHERE THE EXISTING HOUSES ARE.

AND, AND THEN TIE IN, MAKE, MAKE THE NEW TIE INTO THE EXISTING, UH, SERVICE LINE.

THAT, AND THAT'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT SIDE OF GROVE.

BUT THEN THE REST, THE OTHER SECTION OF SOUTH SIDE AND VINE, THEY'LL, THEY STILL HAVE THE OLD DILAPIDATED LINES THAT HAVE PROBLEMS THAT, THAT SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN NEEDING.

VERY LONG TIME.

A LONG TIME, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR $3.3 MILLION ON THE ITEMS YOU'VE LISTED PLUS ENGINEERING ON SOME OF THEM STUFF TO BE DONE? THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT GET OUR OWN CREW AND START DOING IT.

THAT'S A, THAT'S JUSTIFIABLE THAT YOU COULD PAY FOR THAT IN A YEAR OR TWO.

AND AS YOU GROW, YOU'RE NEEDING MORE PEOPLE.

YOU ALSO HAVE WATERLINE LEAKS.

I MEAN, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING EFFICIENT WITH THE TAXPAYER MONEY, BUT GETTING THIS, GETTING THIS STUFF DONE AND STOP FARMING IT OUT TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND LETTING THEM PUT A PREMIUM ON IT.

IS THAT SOMETHING, UH, YOU WANT ME TO BRING BACK TO THE TABLE? IS IT JUST A, A COST, A PROPOSAL OF WHAT, WHAT EVERYTHING WE WOULD NEED TO, TO OPERATE? YOU KNOW, MY, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE DO THAT DURING BUDGET.

MEETING THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT EXTENSION FOR ASHLAND SECTION TWO FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR, AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT'S AGENT FOR ASHLAND DEV UP DEVELOPMENT.

A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT PRESENT THIS YEAH.

BRING EVERYBODY'S UNDERSTANDING WHY CITIES DO THINGS THE WAY THEY DO.

SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO WITH THAT.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

[7. Discussion and possible action on a request for a preliminary plat extension for Ashland Section 2 for a period of one year as requested by the applicant’s agent for Ashland Development.]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE CAN ALSO, UM, COVER ITEM EIGHT AS WELL IN THE DISCUSSIONS AND MAYBE DO, UM, TWO SEPARATE ACTIONS, IF

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THAT'S OKAY.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT,

[8. Discussion and possible action on a request for a Coral Haven Street Dedication final plat extension for a period of one year as requested by the applicant’s agent for Ashland Development.]

DISCUSSION.

POSSIBLE ACTION REQUEST FOR A CORAL HAVEN STREET DEDICATION, FINAL PLAT EXTENSION FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR, AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT'S AGENT RATIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

CAMAN KING IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT'S IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE HOPE TO UPDATE YOU ABOUT THE PROJECT, AS I STATED EARLIER, THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE TIMELINE IS.

AND FOR THE SAKE OF, UM, COORDINATION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL GO TO GRAPHIC ON PAGE 47, WHICH WOULD BE THE CONCEPT PLAN.

THAT WAY WE CAN SEE THE OVERALL PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.

ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU KNOW, IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST, UM, SECTOR OF THE CITY.

UM, ETJ, UM, JUST ABOVE 5 21, ALONG FIVE, UM, 21, UM, WHICH BORDERS TO THE WEST AND 5 23 TO THE SOUTH, AND 2 88 OF COURSE TO THE EAST.

THE APPLICANTS ARE JUST, UM, REQUESTING, UM, TWO ACTUAL PLATS TO, UM, HAVE AN EXTENSION DUE TO, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE DELAY WITH THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF THE DRAINAGE APPROVAL.

UM, JUST TO UPDATE THE CONSOLE, UM, TO THE TOP, UM, LEFT CORNER IS THE SCHOOL.

UM, THOSE PARTICULAR, UM, SCHOOL TRACKS ARE, UM, A PART OF WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A PHASE ONE.

UM, THE DEVELOPER IS OF COURSE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HAVE THAT PROJECT MOVE FORWARD.

UM, BUT AS PART OF THAT, THERE'LL BE, UM, REQUESTING THE FINAL PLAN TO BE RECORDED ALONG WITH THAT STAFF IS PRESSURING THEM TO SUBMIT, UM, FINAL PLAT MYLARS FOR CORAL HAVEN IN WHICH WE WOULD DISCUSS TONIGHT, UM, AS WELL AS THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG SAPPHIRE SPRINGS, WHICH WOULD SERVE ON THE BACKSIDE OR TO THE EAST OF THE SCHOOL TONIGHT.

UM, ITEM SEVEN, COVER SECTION TWO.

THAT PARTICULAR PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS, UM, TABLED BY THE CONSOLE BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2023 FOR THE FINAL PLAT.

SO, UH, WITH THE TIME CONSTRAINTS AND ALSO OUR REQUIREMENTS TO, UH, MAKE FINAL DECISIONS, THAT PARTICULAR PLAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE, UH, REFERRAL AGENCY APPROVALS THAT WOULD'VE COVERED DRAINAGE AS WELL AS THE, UM, STATE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DEALING WITH THOSE CONNECTIONS TO 5 21.

UM, THE COUNTY, UM, HAS APPROVED SECTION ONE A, WHICH THEY'VE DIVIDED THE DRAINAGE INTO A FEW PHASES.

SO THE FIRST PHASE, THEY HAVE GIVEN US A, UM, LETTER OF NO OBJECTION REGARDING THE SCHOOL SITE, UM, AND IT'S DRAINAGE.

THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING THAT'S HAS BEEN, THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FULLY.

UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE THE COUNCIL THAT YOU'LL BE SENDING THE SPA, WHICH IS THE, UM, STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, THE TIMING OF THE, UM, ANNEXATION OVER A PERIOD OF, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS OR SO.

AND BASICALLY DEAL WITH THE, UM, MAINTENANCE OF WHO WILL DO WHAT IN TERMS OF MUD 82.

UM, THE DISTRICT ARRANGEMENTS OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS, THE COUNTY'S, UM, INPUT ON THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS THE, UM, COUNTY ROAD 32 WOULD BE THE SPINE, UM, DOWN THE CENTER, UH, FROM EAST TO WEST, AND THEN ALL OF THE, UM, OTHER LOCAL STREETS WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE HANDLED BY THE DISTRICT.

UM, TO DATE, WE'VE RECEIVED, RECEIVED DOCUMENTS FROM THE, UM, COUNTY AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER.

THERE'S AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT DEALING WITH ALL OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE, UM, IN WHICH I JUST DESCRIBED.

AND ALSO THERE IS AN AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE BETWEEN, I'M SORRY, THE, UM, TON, UM, DRAINAGE DISTRICT AND THE APPLICANT DEALING WITH, UM, THOSE DRAINAGE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.

SO WE'RE HOPING OVER THE PERIOD OF YOUR NEXT AGENDA THAT YOU WOULD SEE THE SPA AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE APPLICANT UPDATE YOU ON THE PROJECT.

HOPEFULLY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER.

UM, I DO APOLOGIZE TO CORAL SPRINGS.

UM, UM, DEDICATION OF RIGHT AWAY, WHICH WOULD BE JUST BELOW THE SCHOOL FEEDS OFF OF 5 21.

WE DO HAVE THE ATTACHMENT.

UM, COLTON, YOU CAN PULL THAT ATTACHMENT OF THAT CORAL SPRINGS, WHICH WOULD BE THE SEGMENT HERE THAT WOULD, UM, SERVE THE SCHOOL TO THE SOUTH AS WELL AS SECTION ONE IN THE COMMERCIAL, UM, BELOW THAT.

SO, UM, WE DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ATTACHMENT, UM, FOR CORAL HAVEN.

CORAL HAVEN IS ACTUALLY APPROVED AS A FINAL PLAT, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION ON THE FINAL PLAT ON THAT ONE, AND POSSIBLY AN EXTENSION TO HANDLE, UM, SECTION TWO AS THEY WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO WHAT'S MISSING OR WHAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED ON THE SUBMITTED FINAL PLAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU, THE TWO ACTIONS FOR ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT.

UM,

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I, UH, I WILL ALSO ALERT YOU THAT THE CITY WILL BE, UM, MEETING, WE HOPE WITH THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TO DEAL WITH YOUR, UM, REQUEST THAT WE WOULD HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE FEEDER ROAD.

UM, AND ALSO WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER HIMSELF.

HE'S, UM, VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT THINGS WILL START MOVING AT A FASTER PACE.

THEY'RE WORKING ON, UM, THAT CONNECTION TO THE 2 88, UM, FEEDER ROAD.

UM, AND WE WILL SEE SOME GRAPHICS I THINK REAL SOON ON THAT, AND ALSO SOME MOVEMENT AND COORDINATION WITH THE HIGHWAY.

UM, COORDINATION FOR 5 21 AND 2 88.

UM, THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SORRY, IT'S A LOT, BUT WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE PLAT EXTENSIONS BASICALLY TO DEAL WITH THE TIMING ISSUES AND SO THAT WE WOULD REMAIN, UM, LEGAL FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

AND THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE 30 DAY WAIVER REQUIREMENTS ARE MAINTAINED IN OUR RECORDS.

WHAT HAPPENS IF AN EXTENSION ISN'T GIVEN? UM, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE ISN'T AN EXTENSION? SO, UM, IF THERE'S NO EXTENSIONS, THEN THE PLATS ARE CONSIDERED STALE.

UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME AND RESUBMIT ALL OVER AGAIN AND START A NEW, UM, JUDITH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THEN THEY'D HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR NEW SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

NO, THEY WOULD NOT.

NO.

THEY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEY'RE VESTED.

GOOD.

UM, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY STARTED THE PROCESS FOR TEXT O AND THE ACCESS DENIAL, UM, FOR THE RAMP OFF THE HIGHWAY? DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY STARTED THAT PROCESS? ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT THE FEEDER ROAD CONVERSATION? THAT HAS NOT BEEN INITIATED YET.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH OUR CITY ENGINEER, UM, HOPEFULLY BETWEEN, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE'LL SPEARHEAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS INVOLVING THE APPLICANTS, UM, AND HAVE THOSE MEETINGS REAL SOON.

I KNOW THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THE 5 21 ACCESS POINTS AND TIE INS, BUT THE CONVERSATION YOU'RE DESCRIBING HAS NOT COMMENCED YET, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN REAL SOON.

MR. YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE ACCESS OFF OF THE 2 8 2 88? YES.

YEAH, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DENIAL.

THEY DON'T, UM, HOW IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ACCESSING THEIR PROPERTY OFF OF 5 21 OR OFF OF CORAL HAGEN HAVEN DRIVE? THE PRIMARY ACCESS IS OFF OF 5 21.

UM, AND THEN AS SHOWN ON SOME OF THE, UM, TIA DOCUMENTS, THERE ARE SOME ACCESS POINTS OFF OF CORAL HAVEN, UM, TO SERVE THE TWO SCHOOLS.

UM, SO THOSE ARE THE, THE MAJOR ACCESS POINTS.

UM, CORAL HAVEN HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO THE 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AS YOU RECALL.

IT'LL BE AVAILABLE, OUR TYPE, UM, CONFIGURATION.

AND IT, IT, THEY HAVE, UM, GIVEN US THE QUEUING PLANS, WHICH IN THE UPDATES WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEE THAT AGAIN AS WELL.

AND THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE DRIVEWAYS.

I AM GONNA PLEAD IGNORANCE.

UM, WAS THERE ALWAYS THIS MUCH COMMERCIAL? I WILL SAY THAT THEY HAVE TWEET SECTION ONE AND TWO, UM, TO, UM, HIGHLIGHT THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THEM WITH MOVING THE FIRE STATION TO ACRE SITE.

IF YOU WOULD GO BACK TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, UH, MOVE THAT TOWARD 5 21.

THAT WAY THEY WILL NOT BE ACCESSING FROM THE CENTRAL CORE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT WOULD, UM, BE MORE FEASIBLE.

WE FEEL ALONG 5 21 IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.

YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE YEAH.

MAKES WAY MORE SENSE.

'CAUSE THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NOT TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, BUT TO SERVE THE AREA THROUGH THE ESD.

AND SO WE DON'T WANT THEM RESPONDING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY BACK AND FORTH WHEN THEY CAN BE RIGHT THERE WITH THE 5 21 ACCESS.

I MEAN, THEY SHOULD BE RIGHT OFF 5 21 AND TAKE ONE OF THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

THAT'S WHAT WE RECOMMEND.

IF THEY DON'T AGREE, LET US KNOW.

OH, THEY, THEY'RE COOPERATING IN.

I PUT THE, UM, DEVELOPER, UM, IN THE CONVERSATION.

HE'S AGREEABLE TO COME BACK TO US WITH A SITE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

SO YEAH, WE, WE'VE, UH, REQUIRED THEM TO COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT THE NEW RECOMMENDED SITE IS FOR OUR APPROVAL.

BECAUSE I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S FUTURE PLANS TO APPROVE.

WE CAN YEP, EXACTLY.

USE THAT AS LEVERAGE.

YEAH, I AGREE.

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COUNSEL, DO I HAVE IN ACTION? MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE EXTENSION FOR THE ASHLAND SUBDIVISION SECTION TWO FOR ONE YEAR.

THIS IS ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CORRECT? SEVEN.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

SAME FIVE BY SAYING AYE A.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES ACTION ON EIGHT.

IT'S THE SAME THING, JUST CORAL HAVEN STREET.

CORAL HAVEN, UM, DEDICATION CORAL.

RECORD THE TWO SIMULTANEOUSLY.

AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS ONE TAKING ONE YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO PLA THE CORAL HAVEN RIGHT AWAY WITH THE SCHOOL.

I'M SORRY.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE THE CUSTOMER OF SIX MONTHS ON THAT, STAFF IS FINE WITH THAT, UNLESS CAITLIN DISAGREES, IF YOU GUYS WOULD PREFER SIX MONTHS.

UM, I, I THINK OTIS IS CORRECT.

A LOT OF THE SCHOOLS, DEPENDING ON CORAL HAVEN, UH, A YEAR IS WHAT WE DO TYPICALLY.

UM, SORRY.

SAY ENOUGH WORDS YOU GET BROUGHT TO THE PODIUM.

HI, I'M CAITLYN.

I'M SURE YOU GUYS ALL REMEMBER ME.

I'M HERE A LOT.

UM, A YEAR IS JUST TYPICALLY WHAT WE ASK FOR.

THE PLOT IS ALIVE FOR A YEAR BY, RIGHT? SO TYPICALLY WE JUST ASK FOR THE SAME.

UM, IF IT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SHORTER TIME PERIOD, UM, THAT IS YOUR DISCRETION.

UM, LIKE OTIS HAD SAID, CORAL HAVEN WILL SERVE THE SCHOOL.

I I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S ANTICIPATING IT TAKING A YEAR, BUT THAT'S KIND OF JUST OUR STANDARD THAT WE ASK FOR.

COUNSEL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, I GUESS, APPROVE THE GRANT FOR THE REQUEST TO COCO CORAL HAVEN STREET, DEDICATION FOR PLAT EXTENSION, FINAL PLAT EXTENSION, UH, FOR ONE YEAR.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION FOR CORAL HAVEN STREET.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SECONDED BY SAYING AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, OTIS.