>> WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING [00:00:02] OF THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION TO ORDER. [DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER] WE DO HAVE A QUORUM WITH FOUR PRESENT. WE WILL GO AHEAD RIGHT INTO REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 1, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF [1. Discussion and possible action to approve the minutes of the Angleton Better Living Corporation meeting of February 20, 2024.] THE ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 20TH, 2024. >> I MOVED TO SECOND AND APPROVED THE MEETING MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 20TH, 2024. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. I HAVE NUMBER 2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO FUND A PROPOSAL FROM TERRACON FOR [2. Discussion and possible action to fund a proposal from Terracon for professional services related to Freedom Park Passive Area design and authorize the City Manager to execute the agreement.] PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO FREEDOM PARK DESIGN AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. >> YES. GOOD EVENING, ABLC DIRECTORS AND MAYOR. WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A PROJECT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY THE ABLC CORPORATION LAST YEAR TO MOVE FORWARD ON. IT'S THE PASSIVE AREA OF FREEDOM PARK ACROSS FROM RANCHO DITCH, THE MOST NORTHERN PARCEL. VADICT CONSULTANTS WAS HIRED. THEY ARE WORKING ON FINALIZING THAT DESIGN. BUT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING WITH THE PREFAB BRIDGE, THEY FOUND THAT THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL GEOTECHNICAL BORINGS TO FINALIZE THOSE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HIRE GEOTECHNICAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES COMPANY TO ADDRESS THOSE SERVICES. WHAT YOU HAVE ENCLOSED HERE IS A REQUEST FOR FUNDS AND THE AMOUNT OF 11,900. YOU DO HAVE THAT IN YOUR CONTINGENCY. IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE NEW DEBT SERVICE. WE ARE IN GOOD STANDING TO SUPPORT THIS BUDGETARY REQUEST, AND SO WE'RE JUST BRINGING THIS TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED WITH THIS SERVICE AND COMPLETE THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT. >> SOUNDS GOOD. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> DO I HAVE A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE TERRACON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATING TO THE FREEDOM PARK PASSIVE AREA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON [3. Discussion and possible action on Freedom Park Active Recreation Area redevelopment project.] FREEDOM PARK ACTIVE RECREATION AREA, REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT. >> YES. THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO THE DEBT THAT WE JUST RECENTLY ISSUED. WE ALLOCATED $900,000 FOR THE ACTIVE AREA, AND THE TOP FOUR PRIORITIES WERE THE FIELD DEVELOPMENT, THE CONCESSION AND RESTROOM RENOVATION AND STORAGE BUILDING. WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS THE DESIGN SERVICES FOR THOSE TOP PRIORITY ITEMS. YOU HAVE ATTACHED IN THERE, THE ITEMIZATION OF WHAT THE SUGGESTED AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE ITEMS ARE, WHICH IS AROUND $2 MILLION. THEN YOU HAVE THE FEE ASSOCIATED WITH DESIGN SERVICES. WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU BECAUSE THIS IS A LARGE CHUNK OF THE $900,000 THAT'S ALLOCATED TO NOT ONLY DESIGN, BUT ALSO CONSTRUCT THESE AREAS. THIS IS JUST BEING BROUGHT TO YOU. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD NOW THAT THE DEBT HAS BEEN ISSUED AND FUNDS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, WE RECEIVED THEM APRIL THIRD OF THIS MONTH. WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS SOLIDIFYING DESIGN SERVICES. WE CAN MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION THEN SHORTLY AFTER. WE ARE SEEKING GUIDANCE FROM ABLC WITH RESPECT TO IF THEY APPROVE THIS DESIGN PROPOSAL OR IF THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. >> GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS HERE. WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS ON A SHOESTRING BUDGET, AND WE GOT A LOT OF COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INCURRED THROUGH THIS. WE WILL BE LEFT WITH ALL THE DESIGN WORK AND EVERYTHING BEING DONE, AND WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FINISH THE PROJECT UNLESS IT TAKES SOME ACTION. WE HAVE 900,000 COST IS 220,000 FOR DESIGN WORK, BUT THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRE ACTIVE AREA, CORRECT? >> NO. IT'S FOR THE TOP FOUR AMENITIES. >> IN THE ACTIVE AREA? >> CORRECT. >> ONE OF THOSE BEING THE BIG BASEBALL FIELD? >> CORRECT. >> I COULDN'T SEE IT IN HERE. DID I MISS IT? HOW MUCH IF YOU TAKE OUT AND JUST DO THE BASEBALL FIELD DESIGN WORK? >> BECAUSE I SAW HER $45,000. SHE AIN'T BROKE IT UP IN FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES. >> THEY MAY HAVE THAT, YES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING THAT SHE PROVIDED. LET'S SEE HERE. [00:05:06] IT REALLY IS ALL READY. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 38. YOU CAN SEE THE SITE LIGHTING FOR THE DIAMOND FIELDS IS ESTIMATED AROUND 297. THAT WE MAYBE COULD GET THAT LOWER JUST BASED OFF OF RECENT PROPOSALS.. YOU ALSO SEE THAT THE FIELD ITEM EIGHT IS 392. THAT'S THE MEDIAN RANGE. BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE YOUR ARCHITECTURE FOR, YOUR SEATING, YOUR COVERS, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. YOU'RE STILL LOOKING PROBABLY AT CLOSE TO ONE MILLION YOU ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER THE ACCESSIBILITY STANDPOINT, SO YOU STILL HAVE TO CREATE THE PATHWAYS TO GET TO THE NEW COMPONENT. MY APOLOGIES, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 39, JOHN, THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, WELL, IF YOU HAVE ITEM ONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE BOTTOM OF THAT SECOND ITEM, THE CONCRETE WALKWAYS FOR ACCESSIBILITY ROUTES. YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT WHAT THEY'RE ESTIMATING IS OVER $1,000,000. >> YEAH. SHE'S SAYING 220,000 TO DO THE DESIGN WORK. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THAT CAN BE CUT IF SHE'S JUST DESIGNING THE BASEBALL FIELD WITH THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT. BECAUSE THIS IS THE PROBABLE COST OF CONSTRUCTION. >> CORRECT. THAT'S HOW THEY BASE THEIR DESIGN FEE.. IN THE PROPOSAL, THEY NOTE THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO 11% OF ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AND THAT'S HOW MOST CONSULTANTS. IT RANGES ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 10-15, SOMETIMES EVEN MORE, BUT THIS IS IT. THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT KEEPING IT AS LOW AS THEY CAN. WHAT JOHN IS SAYING, TOO, IS REALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO COME TO ABLC. WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WHAT YOU ASKED FOR, WHICH WAS THE TOP FOUR AMENITIES BEING DESIGNED. BUT WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A CONCERN BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED BUDGET. WHAT JOHN IS REITERATING IS MAYBE GOING BACK TO THE CONSULTANTS AND SAYING, WHAT WOULD THE DESIGN COST BE IF WE ONLY PURSUED THE FIELD IN THE ACCESSIBLE WALKWAYS? I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DISCUSS WITH THE GROUP. >> THE TOP FOUR GAME TO REFRESH MY MEMORY. SURE. THE LARGE BASEBALL FIELD. >> A LARGE BASEBALL FIELD, THE CONCESSION AND RESTROOM RENOVATION, THE STORAGE BUILDING, AND YOUR ACCESSIBLE ROUTES. >> I JUST SEE ONE AND TWO, BUT THAT'S 1, 2, 3, AND 4. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY HAVE THE ACCESSIBLE ROUTES, BUT ACTUALLY THE POOR THING WAS COVERED BATTING CAGES, ACTUALLY. WE HAD THAT IN THERE TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ITEMIZED WITHIN THESE. I DON'T SEE THAT ITEMIZED. THAT WAS NOT. BUT THAT WAS THE FOURTH ITEM. IT MIGHT BE ON PAGE 38 ITEMIZED. >> HISTORICALLY, WITH THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'VE HAD, AS FAR AS PLANS AND SUCH? YOU SAY, NORMALLY, IT'S LIKE 10-11% OF THE TOTAL COST? >> IT DOES FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON THE FIRM THAT YOU USE, SOMETIMES IN THE COMPLEXITY OF WHAT THEY'RE DESIGNING, BUT IT CAN GO ANYWHERE 10-15 IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN. SOME PEOPLE GO EVEN AS HIGH AS 20% OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS. THEN THEIR PROPOSAL FOR THOSE TOP FOUR AMENITIES, THE 220,000 THAT IS WITH RESPECT TO 11% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. >> WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET A 220 DOWN? >> WELL, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET ALL OF IT DOWN, HONESTLY, BUT YEAH, THE DESIGN WORK COMING OUT OF THAT 900,000 PUTS US A LITTLE UNDER 700,000 LEFT FOR CONSTRUCTION IF WE DO THE FULL THING. IF WE CAN CUT THEM BACK TO, JUST DESIGN THE BASEBALL FIELD IN THE COVERED AREA, LEAVING OUT THE REST ROOM AND THE CONCESSION REDESIGN UPGRADES AND TAKE OUT THE STORAGE BUILDING. MAYBE WE COULD FUND THE DUGOUTS THROUGH. >> WELL, AGAIN, THE DESIGN MATTERS. ARE THE DUGOUTS IN THE SPECTATOR SEATING, WHAT ARE THOSE? ARE THEY BLEACHERS ON A CONCRETE PAD? WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE SPECIFICATIONS, AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A MINIMUM MEDIAN AND EXCESS RANGE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS OF THE CITIES. WE MIGHT NOT HIT THAT, BUT BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED US ON PAGE 39 IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CENTER COLUMN THAT THEY'VE HIGHLIGHTED JUST TO BE CONSERVATIVE. IF YOU WERE TO CONSIDER THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND THE CONCRETE ACCESSIBLE WALKWAYS, 11% OF THOSE ESTIMATES IS RIGHT AROUND 138,000 FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. [00:10:02] YOU WOULD BE REDUCING IT. I MEAN, IT'S FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT BASED OFF OF THE PROPOSAL THAT THEY HAVE. THEN WE CAN POTENTIALLY LOWER THAT AMOUNT DEPENDING ON THE TYPES OF AMENITIES THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN. >> GO AHEAD. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY. MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE LIKE, THEY HAVEN'T DESIGNED IT YET SO ARE THEY GOING TO COME UP AND PRESENT US LIKE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE CAN CHOOSE FROM? >> RIGHT. ONCE WE MOVE INTO DESIGN, WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON LIKE A SCHEMATIC DESIGN OF WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE. WHAT MATERIALS ARE YOU USING? WE HAVE SOME MATERIAL STANDARDS IN OUR PARK STANDARDS MANUAL. BUT WE MAY SAY, WE'RE GOING TO SCRATCH THAT. OUR NEW STANDARD FOR THIS IS GOING TO BE WE'RE NOT USING ANY MASONRY, WE'RE USING POLES AND NETTING FOR OUR BACKSTOP, WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT YET. YES, THEY WILL PRESENT US WITH CONCEPTS, THEY'LL GIVE US A MORE REFINED ESTIMATE OF PROBABLE COST ONCE WE TELL THEM THE MATERIALS WE WANT TO USE AND THEN WHEN WE GET THAT MORE REFINED ESTIMATE OF PROBABLE COST, WE MAY BE LIKE, WELL, WE NEED TO SCALE BACK EVEN FURTHER AND ADD SOME THINGS LATER. LIKE MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE SPECTATOR SHADE COVERINGS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FUND NEXT FISCAL YEAR IN A CONTINGENCY PROJECT. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT AS WELL. I KNOW THAT WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT DESIGN, BUT DEPENDING ON THE DESIGN, OF COURSE, BUT WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED TIME FROM START TO FINISH FOR COMPLETION? >> YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. >> BECAUSE IF IT CROSSES OVER FISCAL YEAR. >> IT WILL CROSS. [OVERLAPPING] >> YES, IT DEFINITELY WILL CROSS OVER FISCAL YEAR. ONCE WE EXECUTE THIS AGREEMENT, GOING INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT COULD TAKE 3 - 4 MONTHS, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO REFINE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. THAT'S ANOTHER COUPLE OF MONTHS. I'VE GOT TO BID IT. IT'LL DEFINITELY GO INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY GUARANTEES THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. BUT I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING AS YOU IS, WELL, WE CAN CROSS OVER AND WE CAN SELF FUND SOME OF THESE THINGS AS WELL IF THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE. >> JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT BASED ON OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET REQUESTS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WE MAY HAVE EVEN WITH THE NEW DEBT ISSUE PAYMENT, WE WILL PROBABLY STILL HAVE A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY LINE TO FUND SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS, NOT HUGE. >> WHAT WE'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW IS BASICALLY SAYING PAY THAT 220, AND THEN THEY COME BACK WITH THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. BUT BASICALLY, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT SAYS THAT ONLY GIVES US LIKE 680K LEFT. >> WELL, THERE'S 220 IS BASED OFF OF EVERY ONE OF THESE ITEMS HERE AND WE CAN CUT OUT QUITE A BIT OF THIS LIKE PLAYGROUND FURNISHINGS AND SITE FURNISHINGS, AND WELL, THOSE ARE ZERO LINES, BUT WE CAN TAKE OUT THE STORAGE BUILDING, WHICH IS 176 ON THE MEDIAN RANGE. WE CAN TAKE OUT CONCESSION AND RESTROOM UPGRADES, WHICH IS ALMOST HALF A MILLION. THOSE TWO RIGHT THERE GET US DOWN CONSIDERABLY. I WOULD JUST SAY THIS TO THE BOARD. WE'VE DESIGNED PARKS IN THE PAST, AND WE TRIED TO GO AS CHEAP AS WE COULD AND WE KICKED OURSELVES IN THE FUTURE FOR GOING, WHY DID WE DESIGN IT SO CHEAP? THEN WE CAN'T GO BACK AND MAKE IT BETTER. I'D RATHER SEE US DESIGN ON THE HIGHER END OF THE SIDE AND THEN CUT. THAT'S MY MY TAKE. WE ALSO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LITTLE LEAGUE IS OFFERING TO HELP. THEY'D LIKE TO TURF THIS FIELD, AND THEY WOULD PAY FOR IT. THAT'S JUST THE DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH THEM. JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL. WE HAVE SOME FLUCTUATION THERE THAT LITTLE LEAGUE WILL HELP WORK WITH US ON FUNDING AS WELL. >> LOOK ON PAGE 33 THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOT THAT 220 BROKEN OUT. >> THAT GOES DOWN. >> YES. >> THAT'S HER ESTIMATE BASED OFF OF PAGE 38. >> THE THING I WAS BRINGING UP THOUGH IS THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT REGARDLESS OF WHAT. STRUCTURES OR FEATURES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> BUT IF SHE DOESN'T DESIGN IT, WE DON'T GET THAT CHARGE. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'RE ASSUMING THAT WE'RE PURSUING CONSTRUCTION OF A $2 MILLION PROJECT, WHICH IN THIS CASE, WE REALLY CAN'T AFFORD. WHAT WE'RE ASKING ABLC IS SINCE WE KNOW WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO FOCUS ON? WE KNOW WHAT THE TOP FOUR PRIORITIES ARE. THAT'S WHAT'S LISTED HERE. WE CAN PURSUE THAT AND PAY THE 220 AND MOVE FORWARD, [00:15:05] WE JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT ALL FOUR. >> I CAN ANSWER. [OVERLAPPING] >> WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, IS IT REALLY THE PRIORITY? >> BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF WE CUT THOSE THINGS, THEN THAT'S GOING TO CUT OFF THE 220? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> I GOT YOU. >> THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESTROOM LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DON'T WANT TO KICK OURSELVES ABOUT THE RESTROOM. BUT THE SIZE OF THE RESTROOM, IS IT SUSTAINABLE NOW TO ADD MORE PEOPLE IN WITH THE LARGE FIELD OR THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE TO IMPROVE UPON WITH THE RESTROOM ITSELF? CERTAIN THINGS I HAVE TO GO BACK TO AND REALIZE, DO WE REALLY NEED THE IMPROVEMENT? DO WE REALLY NEED THE SPACE, OR CAN WE GO WITHOUT? I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH THE RESTROOMS THERE. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? >> AT BATES PARK, AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY BRING INTO THOSE TOURNAMENTS ON FIVE FIELDS AND ALL THE BIG TOURNAMENTS THEY HAVE, THAT RESTROOM IS THE EXACT SAME AS IT IS IN FREEDOM AS IT IS AT BATES AND THEY PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN. NOW, THEY'LL GO RENT PORTED POTTIES FOR SPECIAL EVENTS HERE AND THERE. BUT OVER THERE, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CLOVER RELIEF OF FOUR FIELDS, AND THEN YOU ADD THIS ONE. MOST LIKELY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ALWAYS PLAYING THE SAME TIME. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION TO YOU. YEAH. >> I THINK IT'LL BE FINE. BUT I'M WITH YOU, IF WE TAKE IT OUT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. IT MEANS WE'RE JUST NOT DESIGNING THAT PART OF IT, BUT IT CAN BE LATER DESIGNED IN THERE. AS OPPOSED TO DESIGNING IT, PAYING FOR IT, AND THEN JUST SITTING THERE AND SAYING, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO GO WITH A SMALLER FIELD OR A CHEAPER VERSION OF THE FIELD BECAUSE WE PUT ALL OF OUR MONEY IN THE DESIGN WORK ON THE BATHROOM THAT WE STILL CAN'T BUILD. >> EXACTLY. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. THE STORAGE BUILDING IS REALLY LITTLE LEAGUE'S REQUEST. I THINK WHEN WE HAVE MORE FUNDS TO DO IT, WE CAN DO IT, BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE FIELD IS A PRIORITY SINCE THOSE KIDS DON'T HAVE A FIELD TO PLAY ON. THEY'RE PLAYING ALL THEIR HOME GAMES IN RICHWOOD AND CLYDE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A FIELD. THAT'S REALLY THE REASON WHY WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THIS FIELD. >> WE DON'T WANT THAT. THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE ANGLETON KIDS PLAYING IN ANOTHER CITY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP RESOURCES HERE. >> I DON'T WANT TO GO CHEAP ON THE DUGOUTS OR THE SEATING. I THINK THAT MAKES IT THE AMENITY THAT IT IS. YOU CAN HOST A LOT MORE THINGS OVER THERE THAN JUST A BASEBALL GAME. DIFFERENT EVENTS COULD BE THERE, TOO, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT WITH THE SEATING AND EVERYTHING. I DON'T KNOW. I'D RATHER CUT THE RESTROOM AND THE CONCESSION RIGHT NOW. SINCE THERE'S ONE RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT, IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT FIELD. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE WALK HALF A MILE TO GET TO THE BATHROOM IN THE CONCESSION. IT'S JUST RIGHT OFF THE SIDE OF IT. >> RIGHT. AND I REALLY THINK IT WAS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING BUILDING. I DON'T THINK IT WAS IN ADDITION TO. >> SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? >> I WAS THINKING LIKE HIM ABOUT THE RESTROOM, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY, THEN IT SEEMED LIKE THE BASEBALL FIELD IS A PRIORITY. WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO THAT FOR A WHILE. WE ALSO WANT TO COVER SEATING. >> YEAH. >> BUT IF WE CAN GET BOTH, I DON'T KNOW. BUT YOU DID SAY YOU SAID THAT IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE THE WALKWAY THAT HAS COME WITH THE FIELD. DOES THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN EVEN WITHOUT THE FIELD BEING OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING? >> NO. IT'S JUST AN ACCESSIBILITY FROM AN ACCESSIBILITY STANDPOINT. ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION HAS TO BE 88 COMPLIANT. >> OKAY. >> I AGREE. WHY SPEND THE MONEY TO DESIGN SOMETHING IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE BUILDING RIGHT NOW. >> YEAH. >> I WAS THINKING IT MIGHT BE MORE EXPENSIVE TO DESIGN IT LATER POSSIBLY. >> AS CONSTRUCTION COSTS INCREASE, THAT'S WHAT'S IMPACTING YOUR DESIGN FEE. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU CAN'T CONSTRUCT IT ANYWAYS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME BOAT. YOU'LL HAVE A DESIGNED PRODUCT. >> YEAH, IN PARTITION OFF GROUND SPACE AND SAY SOMETHING WILL BE BUILT HERE SOMEDAY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE IT BUILT. >> COME IN SOME DAY. >> YEAH. MY QUESTION ON THE STORAGE BUILD SO THAT YOU TALK ABOUT PROXIMITY TO THAT CLOVER LEAF. SO THAT CLOVER LEAF DOESN'T HAVE A STORAGE BUILDING. >> THEY USE THAT CONAX OFF TO THE SIDE. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WHERE TO DO THE STORAGE BUILDING THAT DUAL PURPOSE CAN WORK FOR THAT CLOVER LEAF AS WELL. [00:20:02] >> IT WOULD BE THIS STORAGE BUILDING WOULD BE FOR THE WHOLE AREA. >> RIGHT. >> IT ALSO DOESN'T ADDRESS PARKING. >> RIGHT. >> YEAH. WHICH MEANS YOU STILL PARK AT THE FRONT, YOU DRIVE, YOU'LL WALK ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK FOR THAT FIELD. JUST REAL QUICK FOR EVERYONE, I TOOK THE BASEBALL FIELD, THE CONCRETE PATHWAYS, THE COVERED SPECTATOR SEATING AND THE COVERED DUGOUT ALTOGETHER, $742,000. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE LIGHTING. SO IF YOU ADDED THE LIGHTING, YOU'RE ACTUALLY AT A MILLION, 11 MILLION. SO WE'RE ALREADY OVER BUDGET JUST ON THOSE FIVE THINGS. YOU TAKE OUT THE LIGHTING, YOUR 741,000 PLUS YOUR DESIGN WORK, PUTS YOU AT THE 900,000 ROUGHLY, GIVES YOU WHAT YOU NEED. BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE LIGHTS. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T GO BACK AND PUT THE LIGHTS IN LATER, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. >> OR YOU PUT THE LIGHTS IN AND YOU TAKE SOMETHING ELSE OUT. >> SO WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE GAMES ARE PLAYED DAY VERSUS NIGHT? >> PROBABLY RUNS IN THE NIGHT. THEY MIGHT NOT START A GAME AT NIGHT, BUT THEY PROBABLY RUN IN. >> IT'S HARD TO SAY BECAUSE IT'S CHANGED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. THEY DO A LOT MORE OF THEIR GAMES AT NIGHT DURING THE WEEK AS OPPOSED TO WEEKENDS. BUT I THINK IF YOU GIVE THEM A FIELD AND YOU SAY, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE LIGHTS, BUT AT LEAST YOU HAVE A FIELD, I PROBABLY WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THOSE GAMES. >> YOU MADE A GOOD POINT, THOUGH, AND SOMETHING THAT I'LL BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT IF YOU LEAVE THE LIGHTS OUT WITH THE EXPECTATION OF THEM BEING INSTALLED AT A LATER DATE, WHAT WILL OFTEN HAPPEN WITH THESE CONTRACTS IS, YOU'RE BIDDING THIS OUT AND WHOEVER BIDS ON THE CONTRACT GETS IT. THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN THEIR FEE FOR DOING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND ENSURING THAT THEIR CONTRACTOR IS INSTALLING LINES. WELL, WE DEAL WITH LIGHTING ALL OF THE TIME. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HANDLE IN HOUSE, AND I CAN TELL YOU WE CAN GET IT BELOW THIS NUMBER BASED ON RECENT PROPOSALS FOR EVEN, BGP SOCCER COMPLEX. SO THAT PROJECT WHICH WE HOPE TO BRING THE COUNSEL, THAT'S 176,000 FOR LIGHTING THAT FIELD. >> IS THIS A POSSIBILITY, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, MAYBE PAIRING OR TAGGING THE LIGHTS TO SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROJECTS AND JUST EVEN THOUGH IT'S TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, STILL THE LIGHTS. >> WELL, AND I THINK SOME OF THE EXCESS FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR THE BGP PEG ITEM FOR THE DRAINAGE DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GRADING AT THE FIELDS. SO WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR THOSE EXCESS FUNDS, AND THEY'RE REALLY NOT EXCESS AND ENOUGH TO SUPPORT FULLY LIGHTING THIS PROJECT. BUT IF ANY OF OUR PROJECTS WITHIN THE BOND ARE UNDER BUDGET, THEN WE CAN REALLOCATE. WE HAD LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAID FOR ANY PARK IMPROVEMENT. SO YES, WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE DOING THAT. >> BUT I THINK IF WE CAN GET THE FIELD DONE, THEN LIKE YOU SAID, WE'LL HAVE A FIELD TO WHERE OUR KIDS DON'T HAVE FIELD TO DANBURY OR ORIGINAL OR SO. AND AT LEAST IT'LL BE AVAILABLE DURING THE DAYLIGHT TIME AND THEY'LL PROBABLY PLAY AT NIGHT IN WITH THAT LIGHTS IN. >> DO THEY HAVE ANY PORTABLE LIGHT SETS? >> MAYBE WE WANTED PD. >> NOTHING YOU'D WANT TO PLAY A GAME WITH. >> WE DID ALL OVER THE LIGHTS. >> YOUR LIGHT WAS BASED AT THE TIME. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'LL BLEED IN OTHER BUDGETS. THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER FACTOR THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT HERE, AND THAT'S SPONSORSHIP. >> RIGHT. >> WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO SPONSOR THIS FIELD OR DO SOMETHING. THAT MIGHT BE THE MONEY PLUS THE BUDGET THAT PUTS US OVER TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE LIGHTING. >> NAME AND OPPORTUNITIES. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> PUBLICITY. >> SPEAK AND ALONG WITH TIME I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT THIS CONCESSION/RESTROOM RENOVATION. THEY DON'T HAVE IT REALLY BROKEN OUT OR ITEMIZED TOO MUCH THERE, BUT DOING THE RESTROOMS, ABSOLUTELY. BUT THE CONCESSIONS IS ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE THERE'S A RISK INVOLVED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT JUST MAKE PLACES FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO COME IN. THEY WILL COME IN THERE AND THEY WILL PROVIDE ALL CONCESSIONS WE NEED. JUST GOT TO GIVE THEM A PLACE LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING, A PLACE TO AND PARK AND DO THAT. THAT MIGHT CUT DOWN SOMETHING. >> I THINK, HONESTLY, THE LOCATION. [00:25:02] SO ORIGINALLY, WHEN FREEDOM PARK WAS DESIGNED, IT WAS DESIGNED WITH THIS IDEA THAT THIS BIG FIELD WAS GOING TO BE THERE ON THE BACK SIDE, AND THAT'S WHY THE CONCESSION SITS WHERE IT DOES TODAY. IT COULD SERVICE BOTH SIDES. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TWO CLOVER RELIEFS. >> YEAH. >> I THINK YOU HAVE ENOUGH ROOM IN THE CURRENT CONCESSION AREA WITH THOSE TWO WINDOWS, AND I SAY BATES AND FREEDOM, BOTH ARE VERY WELL DONE WHEN IT COMES TO GIVING THEM THE ROOM IN THAT CONCESSION AREA TO DO ANYTHING THEY REALLY WANT TO DO, AND IF THEY NEED TO COOK SOMETHING ON A HOT STOVE, THEY USUALLY TAKE IT OUT TO THE SIDE AND BREAK THEM UP AND THEN TAKE THEM BACK IN. >> RIGHT. >> AND TO ME, IT'S SOMETHING NICE TO HAVE LATER DOWN THE ROAD, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO AFFECT THIS PROJECT. I THINK WE NEED TO UPGRADE ALL THE BATHROOMS ACROSS TOWN, HONESTLY, ALL THE PARKS. THE BEST ONES ARE THE ONES THAT WE PUT IN THE LITTLE MOBILE ONES OR THE LITTLE- >> PREFABS. >> THE PREFABS. THOSE HAVE BEEN THE BEST SO FAR FROM THE COMMENTS I GET AS THEY'RE THE CLEANEST AND EASIEST. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S THE CONCESSION BATHROOMS FOR BOTH LOCATIONS ARE PRETTY BAD SHAPE. >> NOTED. >> SO ARE WE ASKING TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE 220 RIGHT NOW OR TABLE IT? >> I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO GO BACK AND MAYBE RENEGOTIATE ON JUST THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'VE LISTED. >> GOT YOU. >> TO COME BACK AND TAKE BACK TO THEM. >> YES. >> SO SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT? >> YEAH. MAKE A MOTION HOW DO I PHRASE IT? ASK THE STAFF TO GO BACK AND RELOOK. >> PRIORITIZE THE FIELD AND ACCESSIBLE WALKWAYS. >> PRIORITIZE FIELD OF THOSE FOUR ITEMS. >> YEAH. FIELD THE WALKWAY, THE COVERED SEATING AND COVERED DUGOUT. >> I'LL SECOND. >> GOOD. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ONE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE SIDE OF THAT? HEARING NONE, I CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER 4, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON [4. Discussion and possible action on FY 2023-2024 mid-year budget reclassifications and budget adjustments. ] FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 MID-YEAR BUDGET RECLASSIFICATIONS AND BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS. >> SO THIS IS A PRACTICE THAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY MARCH IN PREPARATION FOR CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF RECLASSIFICATION AND BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS. IN APRIL WE ALSO DID THIS FOR ABLC AUGUST BASED ON THE AUDIT INFORMATION THAT WE WERE GIVEN, WHICH NOTED THAT WE CAN DO THIS AS FREQUENTLY AS WE WOULD LIKE AND PROBABLY SHOULD. AND SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE US DO THIS AGAIN TOWARDS THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, JUST LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. BUT WHAT WE DO HERE IS WE GO THROUGH EACH OF OUR DIVISIONAL BUDGETS. IF SOMETHING WAS CODED INCORRECTLY, WHEN WE PROCESS A PO, WE'RE CALLING THAT A RECLASSIFICATION, WE'RE PUTTING IN THE PROPER ACCOUNT, SO THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU'RE SEEING THINGS THAT WE'RE CHARGED AND IT'S HITTING THE APPROPRIATE ACCOUNT. SO THAT'S WHAT THE RECLASSIFICATION ITEMS ARE. WE DO HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT WE FOUND AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FINANCE SINCE FEBRUARY TO ADDRESS, AND THIS WAS SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR AS WELL. NOT ALL OF OUR STAFF WERE ACCOUNTED FOR IN OUR SALARIES BUDGET. WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE MISSING. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COMING TO ABLC TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESS OR PROVIDE DIRECTION BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE STILL PAYING THIS INDIVIDUAL. WE JUST NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE FUNDS ARE THERE TO PAY THAT INDIVIDUAL. AND SO WE NEED DIRECTION FROM SPECIFICALLY ON THAT ITEM ON THE PARKS ADJUSTMENTS ON HOW ABLC WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH THAT. WOULD YOU ALL, AS A CORPORATION, LIKE TO PAY FOR THAT SALARY OR WOULD YOU LIKE THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR THAT SALARY? THAT MEANS THAT IF YOU GAVE US DIRECTION TO PROCEED WITH GENERAL FUND, WE WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND ASK FOR THEM TO FUND THIS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND RATHER THAN ABLC HALF CENT SALES TAX DOLLARS. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS IN THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, WE HAVE THE EXISTING FUNDS THERE. WE'RE JUST MOVING THEM TO DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING WE WERE REALLY SPENDING IN THIS AREA, WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THESE ITEMS, SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AMPLE FUNDS IN THAT AREA. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IN EACH OF THESE DIVISIONS IS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SALARY, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. WE'RE JUST MOVING MONEY TO DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH BASED ON WHAT WE'RE CHARGING. SO THE BOTTOM LINE OF EACH OF THESE DIVISIONS SHOULD NOT BE IMPACTED. WE'RE STILL WITHIN OUR BUDGET. >> WHO WOULD NORMALLY PAY FOR THE SALARY? >> SO HOW IT IS CURRENTLY SET UP THROUGH ABLC IS THROUGH PARKS, [00:30:05] 25% OF SALARIES AND PERSONNEL. IT'S NOT JUST SALARIES, BUT PERSONNEL, SO THE HEALTH, FICA, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, RETIREMENT, 25% IS PAID BY ABLC. THE OTHER 75% IS PAID BY THE GENERAL FUND. >> BECAUSE I REMEMBER YEARS PAST THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ON THAT. AND SO, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WELL, I'M ALWAYS FOR ANY MONEY THAT THE ABLC CAN SAVE AND GENERAL FUNDS TAKE CARE OF IT, THERE'S MORE MONEY FOR US. BUT IF THAT'S NOT NORMALLY HOW IT'S DONE, THAT I'M ALL FOR HOWEVER, IT SHOULD BE DONE NORMALLY, WHETHER WE PAY OR GENERAL FUND PAY. SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THAT? >> THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THOUGHTS. AGAIN, YOU ALL AS ABLC BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY, YOUR CONTINGENCY THIS YEAR WHILE YOU'VE SPENT NOW 11,000 BECAUSE YOU'VE APPROVED THIS ITEM TONIGHT. YOU HAD, I THINK, WAS IT 216,000 BUDGETED IN CONTINGENCY, AND WE'RE TAKING ABOUT 64,000 OF THAT BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A DEBT PAYMENT. OUR FIRST DEBT PAYMENT FOR THE 2024 DEBT WILL BE IN AUGUST. AND SO WE'RE USING THOSE FUNDS, AND THAT'S LISTED IN THIS BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TABULATION, BUT YOU STILL HAVE FUNDS. SO YOU AS ABLC CAN DECIDE TO PAY FOR THIS FULL AMOUNT. YOU CAN BOOT THE BILL TO CITY COUNCIL, SEE IF THEY'LL PICK IT UP, OR ANOTHER OPTION IS YOU CAN DO ANY NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT A THIRD OPTION COULD BE THAT YOU PAY FOR 25% OF IT AND GENERAL FUND PICKS UP 75%. >> WHAT IS THE FTE? >> FULL TIME EMPLOYEE >> FULL TIME? >> Y'ALL FORGET ABOUT IT? [LAUGHTER]. >> SO I WILL SAY THE NUMBER WE PRESENTED WAS NOT THE SAME NUMBER THAT FINANCE AND HR PUT IN THE BUDGET. SO WE KNOW WHO WORKS FOR US AND WE DID ACCOUNT FOR IT, BUT WE DID NOT APPROVE PERSONNEL. >> BUT THEY DO GET PAID, THOUGH. >> THEY DO GET PAID [LAUGHTER]. SO WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY IS THERE. >> I'LL GO EITHER WAY ON THIS. WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY. IF WE WANT TO PICK IT UP, IF WE DON'T. WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNSEL. >> I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE PROPERTY THAT THE GENERAL FUND IS GOING TO HAVE A TOUGHER TIME THAN THE ABLC IS PICKING THIS UP WITH THE STORM THAT WE JUST HAD AND EVERYTHING. THAT ALL CAME OUT OF THE OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE, SO I'M NOT GOING TO SWAY YOU ALL EITHER WAY. >> IS THAT POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE REIMBURSED ANYWAY, INSURANCE OR ANYTHING? >> THERE MIGHT BE SOME INSURANCE IN THERE. >> STATE, FEDERAL? >> NO. I DON'T THINK THE THRESHOLD. >> JUST BUNCH OF LIMBS? >> I THINK WITH THE SALARY, EITHER WE JUST GO LIKE WE NORMALLY GO AND DO THE 25% AND JUST KEEP EVERYTHING LIKE IT NORMALLY IS. OR IF WE FEEL SO GIVING, WE MAYBE CAN HELP OUT THE GENERAL FUND AND FOOT IT. MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE MORE INPUT ON THIS OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW. BUT I KNOW IT'S BEEN A TASK EARLIER, LIKE LAST YEAR AND SUCH LIKE THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE 25% AND HOW MUCH WE PAID OR SOME OF YOUR FUND PAY, AND IT WAS A BIG. IT WAS A LITTLE ORDEAL, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. AND SO I THINK FROM YEARS PAST SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK AT LEAST DO THE 25%. BUT SHALL WE GO OVER AND BEYOND THAT? >> SO ONE THING TO ALSO CONSIDER IS WHEN WE BUILD OUT OUR BUDGETS AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE SUBMIT NUMBERS JUST LIKE YOU'LL SEE AT THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT ALWAYS WHAT IS APPROVED. LIKE THIS YEAR AND THE YEAR PRIOR, WE SUBMITTED A NUMBER, AND THAT WAS NOT WHAT WAS ADOPTED. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU FOR ABLC, WE DO BELIEVE THAT WHAT WAS BUDGETED FOR THE 25% TRANSFER WAS BASED ON OUR NUMBER THAT WE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED. SO WE DON'T THINK THAT THOSE FUNDS WERE CHANGED IN ANY WAY. SO WE MIGHT HAVE ALREADY COVERED THIS WITH THE TRANSFER THAT IS OCCURRING ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO PAY 25% OF PAYROLL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. WE HAVE NOT VERIFIED THAT, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE APPROPRIATELY BUDGETED FOR ABLC, THE 25% TRANSFER, AND IT ACCOUNTED FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. WHAT WE SAW SINCE ABLC DOESN'T HAVE A PERSONNEL LINE ITEM, [00:35:04] NOTHING WAS ADJUSTED IN THE ABLC BUDGET. WHAT WAS ADJUSTED WAS THE SALARIES. AND THAT WAS DONE BY GENERAL FUND. BUT WE'RE STILL GETTING ABLC TRANSFERS EVERY MONTH FOR PAYROLL. SO THEY COULD ALREADY BE PAYING FOR THIS DEFICIENCY. BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT. BUT TO COVER US JUST TO MAKE SURE. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY, BUT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT ABLC WANTS TO DO. WE WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE HANDLED. >> I MOVE THAT WE ABLC COVERS THE 25%. >> SECOND THAT. >> 25% OF THE PERSONNEL FOR THIS PERSON. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE 25% COVERING OF THE EMPLOYEE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> LIKE DOCTOR SAID, IF COUNSEL ASKED FOR THE ABLC TO COVER MORE, WOULD WE BE WILLING TO COVER MORE OF IT? >> WE CAN BRING IT TO COUNSEL AND THEN IF THEY NEED TO KICK IT BACK, THEY CAN. >> SO THEY KICK IT BACK [OVERLAPPING]. >> I'M SORRY. AND THEN WE MIGHT SEE YOU AND DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU? >> YES. >> I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN TALKING, HAVEN'T I? [LAUGHTER]. >> YES. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. IT IS 6:05 OR 6:06:40. I GOT TO GO. DR. JACKSON, WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE AGENDA ITEM 5, [5. Discussion and possible action on budget priorities for Parks and Rights of Way, Recreation, Angleton Recreation Center, and Angleton Better Living Corporation division budgets for fiscal year 2024-2025.] PLEASE AND TAKE ACTION? >> NO. [LAUGHTER] >> AGENDA ITEM 5. DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION ON BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR PARKS AND RIGHTS OF WAY. RECREATION ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION DIVISION BUDGET, FISCAL YEAR FOR 2024, 2025. >> PERFECT. THIS IS WHAT WE TRY TO DO ANNUALLY, THE APRIL MEETING THAT WE MEET WITH ABLC. WE GIVE YOU A PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE IS OUR DIVISION BUDGETS ARE DUE TO FINANCE BY MAY. WE MEET WITH CITY MANAGER IN JUNE TO GO OVER THOSE BUDGETS. BY JULY 1ST, THOSE BUDGETS GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW. WE HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH CITY COUNCIL. THEY MAY TELL US TO REMOVE, CHANGE THINGS, WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS GIVE YOU FIRST SHOT AT PROVIDING ANY FEEDBACK BEFORE WE SUBMIT OUR BUDGET IN MAY TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND IS THEN SUBSEQUENTLY REVIEWED BY CITY MANAGER IN JUNE. HERE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS WE CAN GO OVER. I DON'T WANT TO READ THEM WORD FOR WORD UNLESS YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. BUT ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS IF SOMETHING WAS 15% CHANGE DIFFERENCE OVER TIME, WHETHER IT WAS TO THE NEGATIVE OR TO THE POSITIVE, WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT'S A NOTABLE INCREASE OR DECREASE. THAT'S WHAT'S LISTED AND ITEMIZED HERE FOR YOU. WE DO HAVE REVENUES IN PARKS. WE ALSO HAVE EXPENSES. WE CAN FOCUS ON THAT PROPOSED BUDGET SPECIFICALLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT DIVISION. >> THE FIRST DIVISION IS BASED, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PARKS AND REC. [OVERLAPPING] >> THE DESCRIPTIONS ON PAGE 44 AND 45, SPECIFICALLY FOR PARKS AND RIGHTS OF WAY, YOUR REVENUES AND YOUR EXPENSES. SOME OF THOSE REVENUES, DO THEY INCLUDE OUR PARK RENTALS OR DOES THAT GO STRAIGHT TO ARC? >> [BACKGROUND]. >> RENTALS, WE HAVE BANNER REPAIRS FOR THE NEW SPONSORSHIP BANNERS THAT WE HAVE. WE ARE INVOICING THE COMPANY. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE, SO WHEN WE DO ANY MAINTENANCE, WE BILL THEM, AND THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE HELPFUL TO US ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE DOING THE WORK. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE OVERALL INCREASE FOR EXPENSES IS JUST AROUND 8.5% FROM LAST YEAR. THAT DOES NOT IMPACT ANY SALARIES. [00:40:02] WE'RE NOT INCLUDING A COLA HERE. WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN ANY DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL OR CITY MANAGER TO INCLUDE ANYTHING. WE DO HAVE NOTABLE INCREASES, AS YOU CAN SEE, THROUGHOUT HERE, AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL SUPPLIES OR VEHICLE SUPPLIES, SMALL EQUIPMENT. THERE'S THINGS THAT OUR PARK STANDARDS MANUAL THAT WE ADOPTED, WE HAVE NOT BEGUN WORKING ON ADDRESSING ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, AND WHAT I MEAN IS, AS SOMETHING BREAKS, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK WITH THE STANDARDIZED MODEL NOW, BUT WE HAVE SOME PIECES LIKE PARK BENCHES AT DICKEY PARK, THERE ARE SOME BENCHES TABLES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. THEY HAVE REALLY LIVED THEIR LIFESPAN. WE HAVEN'T HISTORICALLY BUDGETED TO REPLACE THOSE ITEMS OFTEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PRETTY LONG LIFESPAN, SO YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT NECESSARILY EVERY YEAR, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET IN THE PRACTICE OF BUDGETING FOR SO THAT IF WE DO HAVE VANDALISM, OR DAMAGE, OR WHEN WE'RE AT A POINT LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING THE LIFESPAN, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. YOU DO SEE SOME THINGS IN HERE THAT HAVE GONE UP. I THINK WE INCREASED ONE LINE ITEM BY 10,000 FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU GET A PARK PICNIC TABLE AND YOU'RE TALKING A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR WHAT IS NOW OUR STANDARD SHOULD LAST US 20 YEARS PLUS BECAUSE IT'S A RECYCLED PLASTIC, VERY HARDY COMPONENT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO START BUDGETING TO REPLACE THOSE ITEMS. LET'S SEE. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> LOOKS LIKE THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING, [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE EXPECTING IT TO GO UP? [OVERLAPPING] >> YES. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT ACROSS DIVISION. PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE DON'T OFTEN THERE'S VERY FEW TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR PARK STAFF TO ATTEND. THEY GO TO TRAPS, A TEXAS RECREATION PARKS MAINTENANCE RODEO. THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO A REGIONAL WORKSHOP. IT'S JUST A DAY WORKSHOP WHERE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON DEVELOPING IS A TRAINING SERIES, IF YOU WILL, A MONTHLY SERIES WITH TEXAS AGRILIFE EXTENSION OFFICE TO PROVIDE TRAINING TO OUR STAFF IN A NUMBER OF AREAS, AND THEY WANT TO CHARGE $10 PER PERSON FOR THAT CLASS. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE COSTS AS LOW AS POSSIBLE, BUT THAT IS AN EXPENSE. ANOTHER EXPENSE IN TRAVEL AND TRAINING IS THE NATIONAL RECREATION PARKS ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE FALLS VERY ODDLY THIS YEAR. IT USUALLY HAPPENS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, SO WE CAN GET IT ALL IN ONE FISCAL YEAR. THIS YEAR, IT'S FALLING IN OCTOBER, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REGISTRATION COSTS UP FRONT, WE CAN GET OUR PER DIME UP FRONT, BUT OUR HOTELS NOT GOING TO HIT UNTIL OCTOBER, AND THEN WE HAVE TO PAY FOR A WHOLE OTHER CONFERENCE NEXT FISCAL YEAR IN SEPTEMBER, BECAUSE THEN IT GETS BUMPED UP TO SEPTEMBER. [OVERLAPPING] >> ONE BUDGET HAS GOT TO BE BUDGETED FOR TWO OF THEM? >> YES. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT SCALING BACK NEXT FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE THAT CONFERENCE WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER NEXT YEAR FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S CONFERENCE. WE DID ALSO PUT A CHUNK IN THERE TO HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND WORK WITH OUR TEAM AS A WHOLE, AND SO WE PUT IN LIKE A CONSULTANT FEE FOR A TEAM WORKSHOP TO KICK US OFF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. WE DID THAT THIS YEAR, AND IT WAS HIGHLY VALUABLE, REALLY, [OVERLAPPING] >> DOING IT IN HOUSE? >> DO WHAT NOW? >> DOING IT IN HOUSE. TALKING ABOUT LOCALLY? [OVERLAPPING] >> YES. WHO WAS THE PERSON? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO WE HIRED. >> MAGGY JEAN? >> NO, IT WASN'T MAGGY JEAN. THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME IN, IT WAS JUST FOR OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. HE WASN'T IN THE ANGLETON COMMUNITY. HE WAS JUST OUTSIDE, BUT THE LOCAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE USED THEM FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP ACADEMY OR CHAMBER LEADERSHIP AND SO WE HAD HIM COME IN AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, AND IT WAS A GREAT DAY TO JUST WORK WITH STAFF AND WORK ON TEAM BUILDING AND LEADERSHIP TRAINING, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR OUR GUYS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE A WHOLE LOT OF INVESTMENT. I SAY, GUYS, GUYS AND GIRLS AND OUR PARKS AND RIGHTS OF WAY DIVISIONS. >> THAT'S GOOD. >> BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT ALSO OUR RECREATION TRAINING BUDGET, OUR ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER TRAINING BUDGET BECAUSE THOSE PROFESSIONALS ARE CERTIFIED PROFESSIONALS, THEY'RE GOING TO THESE CONFERENCES TO GET THEIR CONTINUING EDUCATION CREDITS. [00:45:07] >> I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD TRAINING. >> YES. >> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE SHOULD REALLY FOCUS ON? >> WELL, I WILL TELL YOU RECREATION DIVISION REVENUES. WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT A 50% INCREASE, AND THAT IS MAINLY BECAUSE WE ARE BRINGING BACK SUMMER CAMP. WE'RE STARTING WITH FOUR WEEKS THIS YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT FOR EIGHT NEXT YEAR. WE ALSO ARE PUSHING OUT THIS FISCAL YEAR A YOUTH VOLLEYBALL LEAGUE, AND WE PLAN FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, A YOUTH BASKETBALL LEAGUE AND YOUTH VOLLEYBALL. WE ANTICIPATE THAT BRINGING UP OUR RECREATION DIVISION REVENUES. THEN YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THAT THE RECREATION DIVISION EXPENSES IS ABOUT A 1% DECREASE, SO THEY'VE DECREASED THEIR OVERALL OPERATIONAL BUDGET. THEN SOME NOTABLE ITEMS ON THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER IS AN OVERALL INCREASE OF ABOUT 24% FOR REVENUES. I DIDN'T SEND YOU GUYS, BUT WE'LL SEND YOU GUYS THIS WEEK, OUR PART MEMO THAT HAS ALL OF OUR STATS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THOSE, BUT YOU CAN SEE, WE CONTINUE TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL MEMBERSHIPS YEAR OVER YEAR. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. >> THAT'S GOOD. >> THEN AN OVERALL INCREASE OF ABOUT 15% FROM LAST YEAR IN THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET, THAT IS PRIMARILY DUE TO PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, I WOULD SAY, WOULDN'T YOU? WE ARE PLANNING ON BRINGING BACK IN-HOUSE SWIMMING LESSONS, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE WATER SAFETY INSTRUCTORS AND GET THEM CERTIFIED AND EMPLOY THEM IN ADDITION TO OUR LIFEGUARDS, AND THEN WE ARE WORKING TO AT ONE POINT, WE HAD HEAD LIFEGUARDS AND WE REALLY NEED THAT POSITION BACK. WHILE THEY WON'T BE CONSIDERED A HEAD LIFEGUARD, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ON SOME OF THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES RELATED TO SWIM LESSON MANAGEMENT, COORDINATION, PROGRAMMING IN GENERAL, AND THEN ALSO ASSISTING THE AQUATIC MANAGER WITH IN-SERVICE, AND WE CAN EVEN UTILIZE THAT PERSON TO HELP WITH CHEMICAL TESTING, ESPECIALLY IF WE DO BUILD OUT A FACILITY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, THAT PERSON WOULD BE UTILIZED TO HELP WITH THAT AS WELL. BUT IT WOULD BE ON A PART-TIME BASIS. >> THERE'S COST FOR THE SWIMMING LESSONS AND SUCH LIKE THAT. THAT COST WILL DEFINITELY FREE THE EXPENSE OF HAVING SOMEONE. >> YES, AND FROM WHAT I RECALL, AND DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, DR. JACKSON, WHEN WE WERE DOING SWIM LESSONS, WE HAD A REALLY HEALTHY COST RECOVERY. MEANING, THE EXPENSE WE HAD, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS LIKE 150% COST RECOVERY. I'M NOT POSITIVE IT WAS 150%, BUT IT WAS PRETTY HIGH UP THERE. WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO CONTINUE DOING THAT IN-HOUSE, AND THEN WE HIRED A CONTRACT PRIVATE LESSON INSTRUCTOR. THEY HAVE SINCE RESIGNED AND SO NOW WE'RE FINDING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. THE OTHER REASON THAT WE STOPPED DOING SWIM LESSONS IN-HOUSE IS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS OFFERING THEM. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE OFFERING THEM ANYMORE. WE REALLY NEED TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT IS A LIFE-CHANGING SKILL. WE AIM TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING. ARE WE STARTING THAT EVEN THIS YEAR? >> IN JUNE. >> IN JUNE, BUT WE'LL OBVIOUSLY BE ABLE TO OPEN THAT UP EVEN MORE NEXT YEAR. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO KNOW ON THESE? WHAT SPECIFICALLY? [LAUGHTER] AND MAYBE THE FACILITY ASSISTANTS? >> YEAH. AS MEGAN HAS MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THINGS AS FAR AS THE STAFFING SIDE GOES. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE FOR. ONE OF THEM IS PART OF OUR RETENTION PLAN. WE'RE PROPOSING THAT LAST YEAR, WE STARTED TO INITIATE THIS WITH GETTING THEM UP TO WHAT THE CITY STANDARD WAS AS FAR AS THEIR PAY GRADE, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ANYBODY THAT STAYS FOR A YEAR WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR A RAISE OF 25 CENTS. THAT WAY, IT'LL GIVE THEM AN INCENTIVE TO KEEP SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES AROUND. FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, THEY WERE SET AT ONE RATE AND NEVER SAW THAT INCREASE THAT THE FULL-TIME CITY EMPLOYEES WOULD RECEIVE. PART OF OUR RETENTION IS TO PROPOSE THAT THEY WOULD GET A 25 CENT INCREASE FOR EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR. ADDITION TO THAT IS WE ARE LOOKING TO [00:50:02] MOVE OUR FACILITY ASSISTANTS TO A PERMANENT PART-TIME, SO THEY SERVE A SUPERVISORY ROLE IN THE FACILITY ON OUR NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS. IT PROVIDES ANOTHER LEVEL OF SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE SUPERVISION AT THE FACILITY WHEN FULL-TIME STAFF AREN'T THERE. A PERMANENT PART-TIME WOULD MAKE THEM ELIGIBLE FOR A 30 HOURS A WEEK. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THEM WORKING THOSE FULL HOURS, BUT IT'S GOING TO HELP US TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET WHAT IS CURRENTLY FOR TMRS IS OUR PART-TIME STAFF ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK OVER 999 HOURS IN A YEAR. WE REALLY HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, SO WHEN WE HIRE PART-TIME STAFF, THEY TYPICALLY HAVE TO STAY ANYWHERE FROM 13-16 HOURS IS ABOUT THE MAX THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM BECAUSE IF THEY EVER HAVE TO DO FILL-INS OR THEY PICK UP ANOTHER SHIFT, IT STARTS TO GET THEM TO CREEP UP TO THAT 999. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THEY HAVE TO BUY INTO RETIREMENT. WHEREAS IN PERMANENT PART-TIME, WE WOULD ACTUALLY OFFER THEM RETIREMENT, SO THEY WOULD ALREADY BUY INTO THAT AS A PERMANENT PART-TIME EMPLOYEE. THAT'S ALREADY BUILT IN AND FACTORED IN, THAT THEY WOULD ALSO GET RETIREMENT AS PART OF THE FACILITY ASSISTANCE. THEN THE THIRD FACTOR IS AFTER LOOKING AT THE SETUP OF THE CURRENT LIFEGUARDING STAFF AND HOW OUR FACILITY IS OPERATED, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE INCREASE STAFFING THERE TO PROVIDE A MORE SAFETY-CONSCIOUS ENVIRONMENT. SOME OF OUR TIMES HAVE A LIMITED USE FOR LIFEGUARDS, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY BE A RISK FOR THE STEADY RELIABILITY, AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDING ADDITIONAL LIFEGUARDS ON STAND WHENEVER THE POOL IS OPENED. OUR POOL IS OBVIOUSLY UNIQUE BECAUSE IT IS ONE BODY OF WATER, SO ANYBODY CAN GO FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER. ANYTIME SOMEBODY IS IN THAT POOL, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ZONES OF COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE POOL, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD TO THAT. ON TOP OF THAT, THROUGH OUR INSPECTION THIS YEAR FOR OUR SLIDE INSPECTION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US WAS PER THE MANUFACTURER'S GUIDANCE IS THAT THE SLIDE SHOULD HAVE AN ATTENDANT AT THE TOP WHENEVER IT'S OPERATED. WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD THAT INTO OUR COST AS WELL. YOU'LL SEE ONE OF THE MAJOR INCREASES THERE WAS FROM A PART-TIME STAFF, BUT THAT'S TO GET US TO ENSURE OUR FACILITY IS SAFE, PROVIDING A APPROPRIATE ENVIRONMENTS THAT THEY HAVE A PLACE TO COME AND HAVE FUN, THAT WE'RE MITIGATING RISK, LIABILITY. THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT GOES INTO THAT ONE. BUT AS MEGAN MENTIONED AS WELL, YOU'LL SEE THE REVENUE SIDE AS WE ARE CONTINUING TO UPTICK IN REVENUE, SO WE ARE HOPEFUL TO CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO OFFSET THAT COST, KNOWING THAT OUR EXPENSES ARE INCREASING, THAT WE'RE ALSO FINDING WAYS TO INCREASE OUR REVENUES THAT GO WITH THAT. >> ONE THING I THINK THAT ALSO SINCE YOU'RE ON THE TOPIC OF OFFSET AND REVENUE AND SO FORTH. WE MENTIONED THE PARK BENCHES AND TABLES AND SO FORTH, AND LIKE MAYOR MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT SPONSORSHIP. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> IF YOU CAME UP WITH A, HERE'S A PICKING TABLE IT COSTS THIS MUCH. HERE'S A PARK BENCH IT COSTS THIS MUCH, AND THEN PUBLICIZE THAT OUT TO PEOPLE TO SAY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN IMMEMORIUM, IT COULD BE A BENCH THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUY AND HAVE THEIR LITTLE PLACARD ON THERE. COULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD OFFSET THAT HELP OUT IN THAT REGARD. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> EXCELLENT. >> THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ALMOST ARE REQUIRED. THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. >> EVERY YEAR WHEN WE PRESENT THE BUDGET, WE ARE TRYING TO BE AS EASILY RESPONSIBLE AS POSSIBLE AND TRANSPARENT. EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE UP NOTABLY WE'RE MENTIONING TO YOU GUYS SO THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND EXPLAINING THAT. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, WE WELCOME THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK WE'RE OUT LINE IN OUR REQUESTS, WE DON'T THINK THAT THERE ARE EXORBITANT AMOUNTS OR REQUESTS. I WILL SAY TOO AFTER THE TRANSFERS THAT WE DO. FOR THOSE THAT HAVE NOT SERVED ON THE BOARD, ABLC DOES A TRANSFER OF 25% SPECIFICALLY OF PERSONNEL FOR PARKS. IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 50, JUST SO YOU CAN KNOW WHAT WE DO WHEN WE BUILD OUT ABLC'S BUDGET. PAGE 50, THERE'S A SECTION THAT SAYS PERSONNEL SERVICES, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT CHART, IT STARTS AT 105 AND IT GOES TO 185, [00:55:01] AND THEN YOU SEE THE PERSONNEL SERVICES SUBTOTAL. IF YOU COME ALL THE WAY BENEATH THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, YOU SEE THAT $1,435,028. WELL, WE'RE TAKING 25% OF THAT, AND THAT IS WHAT ABLC PAYS FOR. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT NUMBER IS COMING FROM WHEN YOU GO TO THE ABLC BUDGET. THE OTHER THING ABLC DOES IS THEY SUBSIDIZE RECREATION DIVISION SERVICES. IF THEY DON'T MAKE UP IN RECREATION PROGRAM SERVICES, THEY PAY THE REMAINDER OF THAT. WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING IS ABOUT $61,000 IN REVENUE, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PAY FOR THE PERSONNEL ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. YOU'LL SEE ON PAGE, LET ME JUST GET THERE SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE WHEN WE WALK THROUGH ABLC, ON PAGE 54. IF YOU LOOK UNDER OTHER, YOU SEE ALL THE TRANSFERS ABLC IS MAKING WITH THEIR REVENUE. 701 TRANSFERRED A GENERAL FUND, THAT IS YOUR 25% OF PERSONNEL. THAT HIGHLIGHT AT 358,757, THAT IS 25% OF PERSONNEL COSTS WITHOUT ANY COLA INCREASE. YOUR DEBT SERVICE 705, THAT IS THE NEW DEBT SERVICE THAT INCLUDES THE 2024 BOND THAT WE JUST APPROVED. YOU CAN SEE THE DRASTIC DIFFERENCE FROM THIS YEAR'S BUDGETED, WHICH IS THAT FIRST HIGHLIGHTED COLUMN AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING NEXT YEAR. IF YOU KEEP GOING DOWN 760 TRANSFERRED OR ACTIVITY CENTER, THAT'S THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. AGAIN, WHATEVER THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DOES NOT BRING IN REVENUE, ABLC SUBSIDIZES. WE HAVE A TRANSFER OF $727,939 WITHOUT A COLA AND THEN RIGHT BENEATH THAT, 761 IS THE RECREATION DIVISION, AND THAT'S THE TRANSFER YOU'RE LOOKING AT. DID WE PUT IN A CONTINGENCY NUMBER? WE USED ALL FUNDS? >> WE DIDN'T USE ALL FUNDS, BUT WE JUST PUT THE NUMBER IN THERE. >> WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IF YOU GO TO PAGE 53. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING THE ABLC REVENUES TO BE. WE'VE SEEN A YEAR OVER YEAR. WE'RE AVERAGING FROM FISCAL YEAR 2020-2021, TO '21-'22, WE SAW AN INCREASE OF ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 8% IN SALES TAX. THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE SAW ABOUT 7.26% INCREASE IN SALES TAX. WE WANT TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE WITH THIS NUMBER WHEN YOU'RE BUDGETING YOUR REVENUES. WHILE WE DID BUDGET FOR 9% THIS YEAR, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT ESTIMATING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HIT THAT. WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HIT A 7.72% YEAR-OVER-YEAR INCREASE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BASING OUR REQUEST OFF OF NEXT YEAR, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT INCREASE BRINGS US NEXT YEAR TO RIGHT AROUND $2.3 MILLION IN HALF CENT SALES TAX REVENUE. IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 54, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT TOTAL THAT WE HAVE AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, DIVISION TOTAL FOR ABLC EXPENSE IS ABOUT 2.2. YOU STILL HAVE ABOUT $100,000 THAT WE CALL CONTINGENCY AND WE WOULD PLUG IN TO, IF YOU LOOK AT MISCELLANEOUS NUMBER 520, WE TYPICALLY PLUG THAT IN TO THAT CELL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUDGET THAT. THAT MONEY CAN GO STRAIGHT INTO YOUR FUND BALANCE. WE DON'T HAVE TO BUDGET ANY MONEY IN CONTINGENCY. WHAT IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO IS THAT IF SOMETHING COMES UP LIKE WE CONSTRUCT THE BASEBALL FIELD, BUT WE DON'T PUT IN THE LIDES OR WE DON'T PUT IN THE SHADE STRUCTURES, THEN WE A STAFF PER YOUR DIRECTION, CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, WE GOT TO PUT FOR SHADE STRUCTURES, AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. IT'S GOING TO BE $50,000. YOU'LL HAVE CONTINGENCY MONEY THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE TO APPROVE SOME ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T ORIGINALLY BUDGETED. THAT'S REALLY WE WANTED TO TRY TO PROVIDE AN OVER-ARCHING EXAMPLE OF HOW THOSE ACCOUNTS ALL TIE INTO EACH OTHER. >> YOU CAN'T STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A CONTINGENCY. >> YEAH. >> BECAUSE IT'S THAT'S A HOT TOPIC. >> WE USUALLY HAVE A CONTINGENCY AMOUNT GOING. >> ONE THING THAT WHEN WE WERE PURSUING THIS 2024 DEBT ISSUANCE, SO THIS FISCAL YEAR IN OUR CONTINGENCY, WE HAD ABOUT, AGAIN, 216,000 IN CONTINGENCY, WHICH WE'RE ALREADY USING. BUT WE WERE GOING TO THE AGREEMENT ALWAYS WAS THAT WHEN WE GO OUT FOR DEBT, [01:00:05] THAT'S GOING TO BE CUT DOWN PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO USE THOSE FUNDS FOR THE NEW DEBT PAYMENT. BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE SOME CONTINGENCY MONEY TO PROVIDE TO YOU BASED ON OUR PRELIMINARY CALCULATION. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT YOU STILL WILL HAVE CONTINGENCY. >> YEAH. >> I APPRECIATE THE BREAKDOWN FOR US THOUGH. >> I NOTICED THAT YOU ALL WERE GOING TO SEPARATE THE CHEMICALS, CREATE A DIFFERENT [OVERLAPPING] >> FOR PARKS OR WAS THAT COOL? WE HAVE JUST A GENERAL SUPPLIES LINE ITEM FOR PARKS THAT WE DO. WE PURCHASE SO MANY THINGS OUT OF, LIKE THE CHEMICALS, ANY OF OUR HERBICIDES, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S ALL JUST [INAUDIBLE]. WELL, WE KNOW THEY'RE CHEMICALS, AND WE HAVE A CHEMICAL LINE ITEM THAT WE UTILIZE FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. THE COUNT EXISTS. WE JUST NEVER PUT IT INTO PLAY. WE DID THE SAME THING WITH CLEANING SUPPLIES. WE REMOVED THOSE, WE CALCULATED WHAT WE WERE SPENDING ABOUT BECAUSE WE DO SOME INTERNAL BUDGETING AND AUDITING OURSELVES AND SO WE CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON CHEMICALS EVERY YEAR OR CLEANING SUPPLIES. WHY NOT JUST PUT THEM IN THE CORRECT ACCOUNTS. YES, THAT IS ANOTHER CHANGE WE MADE. >> IT'S JUST EASIER TO CLICK GENERAL AND PUT IN THERE AND MOVE ON. [LAUGHTER] YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS. BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW, IT'D BE GOOD TO SEE THAT. YOU HAVE TO USE THE STUFF ANYWAY, BUT IF YOU CAN'T SHOW IT, THEN IT MIGHT BE QUESTIONABLE. >> BUT YOU DO HAVE A SPOT THIS TIME FOR MR. SOLACE. >> I'M SORRY. >> YOU DO HAVE ALLOCATION FOR MR. SOLACE, THE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE? HE'S NOT MISSING THIS TIME. >> JARED, YES. AGAIN, THIS IS TYPICALLY THE FORMAT THAT WE PRESENT OUR BUDGET IN. THIS IS WHAT WE ENTER INTO THE BUDGET, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE CONTROL. >> MAKE SURE HE'S IN THERE. >> THAT'S A VALID POINT. EVEN IF WE HAVE A VACANCY, WE'RE BUDGETING FOR THE VACANCY. >> I GUESS I'M GOOD WITH WHAT WE HAVE. >> ARE WE JUST REVIEWING? >> IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES, THIS IS WHAT WE WILL PRESENT TO FINANCE AND THE CITY MANAGER. THE CITY MANAGER MAY HAVE CHANGES AT WHICH POINT WE HAVE A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN JUNE, SO WE WILL NOTIFY YOU OF THOSE CHANGES IN JUNE BEFORE IT'S SUBMITTED AND FINALIZED AND SENT TO CITY COUNCIL. >> THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THIS? >> NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME REQUESTED CHANGES. >> I'M GOOD. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, THOUGH, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE DIFFERENT BREAKOUTS AND SO FORTH. BUT WHAT'S THE OVERALL BOTTOM LINE? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR? >> WE HAVE THAT BROKEN DOWN. WE HAVE THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE. >> IS THAT THE VERY BOTTOM ONE? >> YES, IT IS THE VERY BOTTOM ONE ON EACH OF THOSE PAGES AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE OVERALL PERCENTAGE INCREASE OR DECREASE. ON PAGE 49, REVENUES ARE INCREASING. >> BUT YOU DON'T HAVE IT ALL ROLLED UP INTO ONE? >> BECAUSE THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT DIVISIONS. >> I GOT YOU. >> WE CAN ONLY DO THAT BY DIVISION, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT, YES. ON THE BOTTOM OF EACH PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE. >> I THINK NO ACTION DOESN'T MEAN YOU GUYS ARE GOING FORWARD. WE SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE SURE THAT JUST IN CASE WE INCORPORATE EVERYONE ELSE TO BE A PART OF THIS, WE WOULDN'T TABLE THIS UNTIL THOSE GUYS? >> NOT NECESSARILY. WE CAN BECAUSE AGAIN, THE CITY MANAGER MAY HAVE CHANGES AND SO YOU MIGHT SEE A DIFFERENT BUDGET IN JUNE. IF WE TABLE IT, I DON'T KNOW, DOES AGREE WITH THAT IMPACT THE CONTENT THAT'S PRESENTED OR JUST THE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY. >> WE JUST NEED TO SAY THAT WE REVIEWED IT? DO WE NEED TO VOTE? >> DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY? >> BECAUSE I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION JUST TO DISCUSS BUDGET CHANGES TO THE BUDGET SO IT'S MORE OR LESS DISCUSSION MORE THAN ACTION. >> UNTIL WE HAVE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY MANAGER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO APPROVE A BUDGET UNLESS HE'S ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT. >> THIS WAS JUST MORE OR LESS A DISCUSSION SO WE'LL BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. [01:05:04] THEN WHEN YOU GUYS TAKE IT TO THE CITY, THEN THEY'LL MAKE DECISIONS TO BRING IT BACK TO US, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A LOOK OVER IT BEFORE DECISIONS ARE MADE. >> CORRECT. >> BLOCK CHECK, WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT. >> YES. JUST FOR SCHEDULING AND TIMING, WHAT WE HAVE ALSO DONE BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL MAY EVEN MAKE CHANGES TO THE BUDGET. FOR INSTANCE, I MENTIONED THAT THERE'S NO COLAS INVOLVED, AND OFTENTIMES THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO ADD A COLA. THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT ALL OF YOUR PERSONNEL NUMBERS, WHICH WE THEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AND SEEK ABLC APPROVAL. IT MIGHT BE THAT WE MEET IN JULY WITH CITY COUNCIL, THEY GIVE US DIFFERENT DIRECTION. WE HAVE TO TWEET CHANGES, AND THEN WE MEET AGAIN IN AUGUST. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS IN JUNE AND PROBABLY ALSO IN AUGUST. >> OUR JOB IS EASY. >> YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE READY, SIR, YOU CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING. >> I CALL THE MEETING OF ABLC TO ADJOURN, CLOSING AT 6:36. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.