[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]
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ALL RIGHT I WILL DECLARE THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.
BUT WE WILL FIRST START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LED BY COUNCILMAN TERRY.
A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND THEN CECIL WILL LEAD US IN.
INVOCATION, PLEASE. LORD, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.
FATHER, THANK YOU THAT WE CAN CALL ON YOU.
YOU HEAR US? YOU WANT THE BEST FOR US.
FATHER. THANK YOU. THAT ALL FOR THAT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THE TIME WE HAVE TONIGHT TO GATHER TOGETHER TO FREEDOM AND LIBERTY TO DISCUSS THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY, OR JUST ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US AND DIRECT US AND AND KEEP US IN THE CENTER OF YOUR WILL.
ADDITIONALLY, TONIGHT, FATHER, WE WANT TO LIFT UP LUPI.
AND THANK YOU THAT HE WASN'T HURT ANY WORSE THAN HE WAS BEFORE.
ALL RIGHT. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE WORKSHOP TO BEGIN AT 530.
[1. Discussion on Fiscal Year 2024-2025 Budget.]
WE'RE ACTUALLY ABOUT 535 RIGHT NOW AS I SPEAK.DISCUSSION OF FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 BUDGET.
AND, CHRIS, ARE YOU LEADING US OFF? YES. SO AS AS YOU ALL REQUESTED, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH I THINK I SENT OUT A COUPLE DAYS AGO.
AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT DECISION PACKAGES LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR.
AND WE'VE GOT ALL THE STAFF HERE.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT ANY DECISION PACKAGE YOU WANT TO.
AND JUST A REMINDER THAT AT 6:00 ISH, WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO MOVE ON TO THE MEETING.
OKAY. SO, PHIL, YOU MUST BE LEAVING THERE.
COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE REVIEW OF FUND BALANCE FOR.
SORRY. I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE REVIEW OF FUND BALANCE.
WE BUDGETED A YEAR TO START WITH FUND BALANCE AND GENERAL FUND AND $3.6 MILLION.
WE HAD REVENUES UNDER EXPENDITURES IN THE AMOUNT OF 1.3 MILLION.
AND THEN WHEN YOU, ADD IN THE TRANSFERS FROM OTHER FUNDS AND SUBTRACT OUT THE TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS, WE ENDED UP WITH THE BUDGETED FUND BALANCE OF 3.89 MILLION.
ACTUALLY, THE FUND BALANCE IS GOING TO BE AROUND 3,470,000.
OKAY. THE FUND BALANCE AGAIN FOR THIS ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 3,470,000.
OUR NET REVENUE TOTAL REVENUES YEAR TO DATE ARE 13,721,000.
WE'VE SPENT 13,764,000, LEAVING US WITH REVENUES UNDER EXPENDITURES OF 43,000 YEAR TO DATE.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU ADD IN THE TRANSFERS FROM OTHER FUNDS AND SUBTRACT OUT THE TRANSFERS THAT WE'VE MADE FROM GENERAL FUND, WE END UP WE'RE HAVE A NET FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW IN THE GENERAL FUND OF 4,641,000.
AND THAT IS AS OF THE END OF JUNE.
IN THE WATER FUND, WE BUDGETED TO START THE YEAR WITH A FUND BALANCE OF 3,712,000.
TOTAL REVENUES THAT WERE BUDGETED WERE 11,249,000, WITH EXPENDITURES OF 8,410,000, AND THEN TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS OF 2,800,000.
WE BUDGETED TO HAVE AN ENDING FUND BALANCE IN THE WATER FUND OF 3,723,000.
ACTUALLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FUND BEGINNING FUND BALANCE OF 4,580,000.
OUR TOTAL REVENUES YEAR TO DATE ARE $8 MILLION.
AND OUR TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS ARE 2.1 MILLION.
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SO THAT LEAVES US WITH A FUND BALANCE AS OF JUNE 30TH, IN THE WATER FUND OF 4,227,000.THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE FUNDED.
EXCUSE ME. BY FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR, OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
TOTAL OF 1,000,201 MILLION 2000.
PART OF THAT IS THE MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH INCLUDED APPROXIMATELY $350,000 FOR THE STORM THAT WE HAD IN MARCH THAT WE WILL NOT GET REIMBURSED FOR.
SO THAT'S THAT'S $1 MILLION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OUT OF FUND BALANCE AS OF THE END OF THE YEAR IN THE WATER FUND, WE'VE ALSO BUDGETED.
WE'VE TAKEN ABOUT ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF FUND BALANCE TO COVER VARIOUS PROJECTS.
AND I'LL STOP ANYTIME ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO GO OVER WAS THE.
KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE PACKAGES THAT WE HAD THAT STAFF HAD PREPARED FOR LAST YEAR THAT WERE NOT FUNDED. WE HAD A TOTAL I DON'T HAVE A TOTAL.
TOTAL PACKAGES THAT WERE NOT FUNDED LAST YEAR IS ABOUT $2,141,000 THAT THE STAFF REQUESTED THAT WE COULD NOT FUND FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
IT'S ANYWHERE FROM SOME THE VOLUNTEER ON CALL PROGRAM FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT EQUIPMENT IN THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. IT EQUIPMENT.
MAINTENANCE ON THE WATER HYDRANTS.
THEN SOME OTHER ITEMS IN THE THE ESD FUND.
AND THEN THE RECREATION CENTER.
SOME OF THESE WE HAVE HAD TO GO AHEAD AND DO BUT THIS THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WERE THE STAFF HAD REQUESTED AND WERE NOT FUNDED FOR THIS YEAR.
I'LL BE GLAD TO STOP AND LET YOU LOOK AT THEM OR ASK QUESTIONS.
THEN WE DO SOME OF THE ADR STUFF ON THE PARKS.
SO YEAR ONE FOR ADA WAS APPROVED LAST FISCAL YEAR OUT OF PARKLAND DEDICATION.
BUT WE SUBMITTED YEAR TWO AND LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND NO FUNDING WAS APPROVED.
AND SO WHAT STEWARD IS DOING IN PREPARATION FOR THIS NEXT YEAR IS HE'S GOING TO FLAG WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, REGARDLESS IF IT'S YEAR FIVE, YEAR TWO OR YEAR THREE. SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AS IT RELATES TO ADA, RIGHT? MY QUESTION TO YOU FEEL IS THE REPRESENTATION WE SEE HERE.
EVERYTHING THAT'S UP THERE ARE ITEMS THAT WERE NOT COMPLETED AT ALL.
SO NO OTHER REVENUE SOURCES COVERED ANY OF THESE ITEMS? WELL, THE THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS WE DID RECEIVE A GRANT FOR THAT.
SO THAT WILL BE TAKEN THAT CAN BE TAKEN OFF THIS LIST.
YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT STILL ACTIVELY NEED TO BE.
YEAH. CAN WE HIGHLIGHT ONES THAT DO WE KNOW.
THANK YOU. WE'LL BRING THOSE BACK ON SATURDAY.
AND I GUESS IF SAME THING WOULD APPLY.
AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT, BUT IF THERE'S BEEN ANY SORT OF ANY SORT OF LET ME SAY PAYMENT TOWARDS OR COMPLETION OF ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, FOR FLOCK CAMERAS, FOR INSTANCE.
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BUT SURE.WE CAN DO THAT. DO WE THINK THESE FIGURES ARE STILL ACCURATE? THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE DEPARTMENTS LAST YEAR.
I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO SAY NO.
THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
DOES ARE THOSE PLACED IN ANY SORT OF RANKED VALUE OF IMPORTANCE OR JUST. NO. OKAY.
I MEAN, MY MY EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST IS KIND OF BEEN WHERE THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE TO THOSE WHO NEED MOST ARE PROBABLY MORE LIKELY TO RECEIVE. SO.
SO WE'LL PRIORITIZE THEM BY SATURDAY.
WE'LL HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN NUDGED AT AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK.
OKAY. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE LIST OF THE PACKAGES FOR THIS YEAR.
IT'S. IT'S A PRETTY LONG AND EXPENSIVE LIST.
THE TOTAL FOR THIS LIST IS $9.6 MILLION.
AND THEY ARE PRIORITIZED IN THE SOFTWARE THAT PHIL USES THAT YOU'LL SEE ON SATURDAY.
SO YOU'LL SEE THEM RANK ORDERED FROM ONE TO WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.
HAVE YOU USED YOUR BIG RED PEN AND STRUCK ANY OF THIS STUFF OR YOU JUST ALL SUBMITTED TO US? THIS IS ALL JUST SUBMITTED FOR.
SO YOU UNDER SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF WHAT THE WANTS OR THE NEEDS, WANTS AND NEEDS.
DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS. YES, SIR.
BUT SO THE I MEAN THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO GO TO.
I WANT DIFFERENT COLORED BEDROOM, BUT I DON'T MEAN A DIFFERENT COLORED BEDROOM.
AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S NOT IN ALL THIS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH IS THE HURRICANE DAMAGES THAT AREN'T COVERED BY INSURANCE, WHETHER IT'S A DEDUCTIBLE OR IT'S WASN'T INSURED, PERIOD.
WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT NUMBER.
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU REAL QUICK ABOUT THE NUMBER ONE ITEM INCREASE IN MRS PLAN TO 7%.
TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE. WHY? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE VARIABLE BENEFITS YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT KEEPING KEEPING EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEES FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
WE'RE AT THE 6% PROVIDED BY THE EMPLOYEE AND 12% PROVIDED BY THE CITY.
SO AGAIN, I ASK COLLEEN JUST TO PROVIDE DATA.
SHOULD SOMEDAY WE CHOOSE TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE? AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'LL I SOMETIMES YOUNGER EMPLOYEES DON'T NECESSARILY CARE ABOUT THAT.
THEY CARE ABOUT THE HIGHER PAYCHECK.
WE'RE SOME OF US SALT AND PEPPER OR SEASONED FOLKS TEND TO CARE MORE ABOUT RETIREMENT SOMETIMES.
AND I IT IS A IT IS A RECRUITING TOOL.
IF WE WERE TO INCREASE IT TO 7%, THAT $1.686 MILLION, THAT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL EXPENSE. YES, YES.
AND THAT WAS GIVEN. MY NOT LOUD ENOUGH
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THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME BY THE UNDERWRITERS AT TMS ALSO.AND THAT'S A CHANGING NUMBER IS YOUR EMPLOYEE POPULATION CHANGES AND AND THE TOTAL.
NOT THE NOT THE NOT THE ADDITIONAL.
OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE WITH WITH THE WITH WITH THE TOTAL.
YEAH. THEY JUST DIDN'T PUT WHAT THE THE CURRENT.
OKAY. THAT WOULD BE KIND OF GOOD TO KNOW.
WHAT'S THE CURRENT CONTRIBUTION? I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT FIGURE.
SO HOW ABOUT FOR SATURDAY? YEAH. OKAY. I DO, I DO APPRECIATE EXPLORING THAT OPPORTUNITY.
BECAUSE WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT SOMETIMES SACRIFICE A LITTLE FOR SOME BENEFITS LATER ON.
AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO I GUESS, PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, MAYBE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO, THAT'S ALL.
IS THAT RIGHT? LET'S GO TO WAL-MART.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ONE? NO, I JUST THAT'S THAT'S A MUCH LARGER PRICE TAG THAN I IMAGINED.
THAT IS BECAUSE JUST FOR THAT, WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR AN EMPLOYEE THAT WOULDN'T BE A REOCCURRING.
THE SLB MAINTENANCE, BUT THAT IS, THAT EMPLOYEE WOULD PRETTY MUCH.
INSIDE OF OUR RECORDS DIVISION.
AND THEY WOULD BE TOTALLY TRAINED.
SO THEY ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO HELP WHATEVER THE EYE DOESN'T CATCH AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT IT'S BROKE DOWN INSIDE OF OUR DECISION PACKAGE.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOFTWARE REJECTION OR.
OH, NO. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT REDACTION.
WHAT ABOUT BALLARAT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BALLARAT.
OH, THAT WAS FOR THE TO PUT IT.
WITH THE TRAINING, EVERYTHING.
THAT'S JUST TO EQUIP EVERYBODY.
SO IF YOU PURCHASED IT IN THIS YEAR, IT WE'D HAVE ENOUGH FOR YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME ROLLOVER IN OFFICERS FROM TIME TO TIME THAT WOULD STILL SATISFY.
HOW OFTEN ARE THEY USED? WE'VE USED BOLO.
I'D HAVE TO. I DON'T WANT TO JUST THROW A NUMBER, BUT WE'VE USED THEM.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY AS MUCH AS THE TASER, BUT WE JUST TASED THE GUY THE OTHER DAY.
I MEAN, THAT THAT'S THAT'S JUST ANOTHER OPTION OF LESS LETHAL.
AND HOW ABOUT FOR SATURDAY? YOU GET THE NUMBER? I WILL HAVE THOSE.
YEAH. JUST BECAUSE IS IT AND THOSE ARE REUSABLE CORRECT.
YES. IT'S JUST THE CARTRIDGES THAT THAT CARTRIDGES CAN BE REPLACED.
YES, SIR. THE APPARATUS THAT FIRES IT.
CHRIS, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TASER REPLACEMENTS, IS THIS ACROSS THE BOARD? EVERY ONE OF THEM OR JUST ACROSS THE BOARD? 15 OF THEM OR SOMETHING ACROSS THE BOARD.
THESE WERE ISSUED IN 2016, I BELIEVE.
AND TASER DOESN'T EVEN OFFER ANY KIND OF LEGAL LIABILITY AFTER THE FIVE YEARS.
AND WE HAVE THERE'S WE HAVE OPTIONS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S BROKE DOWN IN THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT WE CAN GET INTO.
SO ON THE REDACTION SOFTWARE I'M TRYING TO ASK THIS QUESTION ARTFULLY. HAS THERE BEEN MUCH PUSHBACK FROM AUDITORS ON THIS ISSUE?
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NOT SO MUCH, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT'S ALMOST AN UNFUNDED DEAL THAT EVENTUALLY THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT MANDATES IT'S JUST COMING.I DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT IT'S COMING.
OKAY. BUT TO CLARIFY TO CHRIS'S POINT EARLIER, THAT'S A PERSON PLUS THE SOFTWARE BECAUSE THAT WILL BE A FULL TIME JOB.
THAT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL TASK THAT WE CAN.
AND SOMEBODY WHO'S, WHO'S ACTUALLY TRAINED AND, AND, AND KNOWS A STRAIGHT GO TO, TO GO TO LEGAL AND JUST KNOWS AND KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE SOFTWARE THEMSELVES.
SO IT'S PART OF THE SOFTWARE ITSELF.
YOU SAID I, I GUESS THERE WILL BE ABLE TO SEARCH AND FIND WORDS.
YEAH. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND A LOT ABOUT IT, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MOST OF THESE PROGRAMS HAS SOME TYPE OF AI INTO IT THAT HELPS THEM SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER THAN HAVING TO JUST SIT THERE AND GO FRAME BY FRAME BY FRAME.
AND IT KIND OF IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE CHECKER.
IF THEY MISS SOMETHING, IT MIGHT FLAG SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT, WHETHER IT BE A GROUP OF NUMBERS THAT IT TRIGGERS OUT AS A LICENSE PLATE OR A PHONE NUMBER OR SOMETHING ELSE.
THERE'LL BE A REOCCURRING LICENSING FEE FOR THE SOFTWARE.
SO THAT 100 AND 115,000, YOU KNOW X OF THAT WILL BE THE PERSONNEL COST WHICH WE'LL HAVE TO WHATEVER. AND THEN WILL BE THE ANNUAL SOFTWARE STUFF.
PLUS, PLUS IT'LL BE LEGAL FEES TOO.
SO AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S SAME AS ANY INFORMATION REQUEST THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GET REVIEWED BY LEGAL AND MAY HAVE TO GO TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
LET'S NOT GO DOWN THE WEEDS ON THIS.
YEAH I GOT SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT.
WHAT? WHAT'S THE INDICATION WITH THAT? ARE WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SALARY RANGE IS.
IS THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS IN ON OUR OUR FIGURING INSIDE OF OUR DECISION PACKAGE.
NO, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BEFORE SATURDAY.
WE GROW IN THAT FAST. WE NEED THREE NEW OFFICERS.
DO WE NEED THREE? WE NEEDED THREE. WE'RE SETTING THAT RIGHT NOW WITH OUR CURRENT POPULATION.
WE'RE AT 1.8 OFFICERS PER THOUSAND.
EVERYTHING THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT, IT'S.
AND WE'VE BEEN AT 37, SWORN FOR A LONG TIME.
AND WE'RE FIXING TO HIT A POPULATION BOOST WITH ROOFTOPS.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 1.8.
AND THIS MAY BE FOR CHRIS, BUT THE ITEM BELOW THAT, THE VEHICLE, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE JUST THE, THE WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLY VEHICLES THAT THAT WE'RE NO, THAT'S VEHICLES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF AND DO THE TRADE OUT.
I MEAN WE'VE GOT SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ENTERPRISE.
THIS IS NOT BUT THAT'S NOT THE ENTERPRISE TODAY IS NOT THE GROWTH PIECE.
IT'S CURRENT VEHICLES THAT EITHER WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO REPLACE OR UPGRADE OR LOOP.
HE'S GOT THREE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES THAT ARE I THINK THEY'RE 2000.
WE GOT 2014 AND THEN SOME 16 AND 17 THAT ARE 120, 130, 140,000. BUT YES, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY. SO. RIGHT.
SO HOW ABOUT THIS I'M GOING TO DO A SHORT RECESS AND LET HER RUN THE RESTROOM IF THEY NEED UP HERE.
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AND WE'LL RESUME THE REGULAR MEETING IN ABOUT TWO MINUTES.THANK YOU. I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE WILL BEGIN OUR REGULAR MEETING.
I KNOW WE'RE A FEW MINUTES BEHIND.
WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.
AND IF COUNCIL WILL JOIN ME UP FRONT.
RIGHT PAST IT. CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE ANY? ANYBODY WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL? NORMALLY YOU'D FILL OUT A NOTICE, BUT WE'LL MAKE AN EXCEPTION TONIGHT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.
[2. Presentation of Certificates of Appreciation for Employees who assisted in the Emergency Operations Center-Call Center.]
NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER TWO.TONIGHT WE'RE RECOGNIZING SEVERAL PEOPLE FOR THEIR DILIGENCE AND ASSISTANCE IN THE CALL CENTER.
AND I'M GOING TO LET JAIME PACHECO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THAT.
A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN THAT WE OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT.
THEY FILLED MORE POST-IT NOTES THAN I KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH NOW, AND LOTS OF NOTES, BUT I COMMEND THEM FOR THE LEADERSHIP AND THE WORK THAT THEY TOOK ON TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS WERE TAKEN CARE OF.
GREAT JOB. SO FIRST WE HAVE MARIA BARONE.
WE RECOGNIZE CHLOE CAMPBELL, WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.
DESIREE HENSON COULD NOT BE WITH US THIS EVENING.
DESERVED RECOGNITION. KATIE CRAWFORD.
SORRY. OH MY GOD, WHERE'S SARAH? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW.
THANK YOU. JANET GARZA COULD NOT BE WITH US THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU. I MEAN, YOU'RE WELCOME.
BEFORE THEY SIT DOWN, I WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
EXCEPTIONALLY TOUGH, DIFFICULT TASK.
I KNOW THESE ARE NOT YOUR NORMAL RESPONSIBILITIES OR ASSIGNMENT.
YOU DID SO WITH GRACE AND PROFESSIONALISM.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT HELPS REASSURE THOSE WHO ARE FACING TOUGH TIMES TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A VOICE ON THE OTHER END OF THAT PHONE THAT WILL TAKE THOSE CALLS AND WILL REACH OUT FOR THE HELP THAT THEY NEED, AND WE CAN'T.
THE HELP WON'T GET THERE IF YOU LADIES AREN'T ANSWERING THOSE PHONE CALLS.
SO WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE IT.
YOUR YOUR HELP IS IS GREATER THAN APPRECIATED.
GREATER THAN PROBABLY YOU EVEN REALIZE WE HAVE SUCH GRATITUDE FOR YOU UP HERE.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
[3. Presentation of the Parks and Recreation Month Proclamation.]
PROCLAMATION. I ALWAYS I'M NOT GOING TO LIE, I DID NOT ENVY JOHN WHEN HE WAS UP HERE READING THIS.I KNOW THEY ALL SAID THE MAYOR.
CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS PROCLAMATION.
AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES HEALTH, WELLNESS, TIME, CONNECTING WITH NATURE AND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES TO IMPROVE THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF CHILDREN AND ADULTS WHO LIVE NEAR PARKS.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION ENCOURAGES HEALTHY LIFESTYLES BY PROVIDING SPACE FOR POPULAR SPORTS, HIKING TRAILS, SWIMMING POOLS, YOUTH SPORTS, OUT-OF-SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMING, ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES.
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TOURISM, THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES, AND CRIME REDUCTION.AND WHEREAS ANGLETON TEXAS RECOGNIZED THE BENEFITS DERIVED FROM PARKS AND RECREATIONAL RESOURCES AND I NOW THEREFORE, I, TRAVIS TOWNSEND, MAYOR PRO TEM OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY IS RECOGNIZED AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. PROCLAIM THIS 23RD DAY OF JULY, 2024.
ALL RIGHT, MEGAN, THANK Y'ALL.
THANK YOU. HOLD ON REAL QUICK.
I WANT TO SAY AGAIN. THANK YOU AGAIN ON THE BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK ONE OF THE ENDURING QUALITIES OF OUR CITY IS OUR PARKS.
I THINK. HONESTLY, I BELIEVE WE'RE WAY AHEAD IN THE HILLS ABOVE.
WHAT WE QUALITY WE HAVE HERE IN ANGLETON IS ABOVE.
AND THEN I THINK THAT'S IN PART RELATED TO OUR DIRECTORS AND THE HARDWORKING PEOPLE ON THE PARKS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
ALL RIGHT. PRESENTATION OF EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS.
[4. Presentation of employee service award.]
WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE ONE GENTLEMAN THIS EVENING, KEVIN RANDALL WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.HE IS UNABLE TO BE HERE, BUT KEVIN HAS DEDICATED 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY.
[5. Ceremonial Presentation of the July 2024 Keep Angleton Beautiful Yard of the Month.]
NUMBER FIVE, CEREMONIAL CEREMONIAL PRESENTATION OF THE JULY 2024 KEEP ENGLAND BEAUTIFUL.COME ON GIRL. NO, I GUESS IT'S NOT A JOKE.
OH, YOU CAN GO UP THERE. THIS IS KIM GRAVES.
HER HUSBAND TONY IS WORKING OUT OF TOWN, AND PEOPLE ARE ALL EXCITED TO GET YARD OF THE MONTH.
BUT I THINK THIS IS OUR BEST ONE, BECAUSE WHEN I CALLED HER, WE GOT THE NOMINATION IN.
SHE SAID, TRACY, THIS IS A JOKE.
THANK YOU FROM KEITH ANGLETON. BEAUTIFUL.
THE CITIZENS OF ANGLETON MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND SHE'S VERY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SHE LOVES ANGLETON AND SHE'S THE GO TO GIRL.
SO IF YOU EVER NEED HER, WE GOT HER NUMBER.
GO AHEAD. YOU GOTTA GO GET THE PICTURE.
THANK YOU. I KNOW IT. I'M GONNA HOLD YOUR BAG.
OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO HOLD IT WITH PRIDE? AND THEN THE STORM CAME.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU THIS. SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BECAUSE WE CLEANED THAT WHOLE LOT UP SO THAT MY SON COULD.
AND THEN WHEN I GOT IT, IT WAS SHE HAD HER THE FLAGS UP FOR JULY 4TH.
SO SHE SAYS, DO NOT TAKE YOUR PICTURE.
I HAVE TO GO STRAIGHT IN THE FLAG.
YEAH. SO I THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S RETIRE BACK TO HER.
ALL RIGHT. NOW WE MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER SIX.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO REJECT ALL BIDS FOR BID NUMBER 2020 4-04 SOLAR STREET LIGHT PROJECT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO REJECT ALL SUBMISSIONS FOR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL RFP FOR ADMINISTRATION, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE GLO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, DISASTER RECOVERY MITIGATION.
RESILIENT COMMUNITIES PROGRAM NUMBER EIGHT DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020 40723-008 REPEALING AND REPLACING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021 208.
DASH 008 ADOPTING A DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN AND WATER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVING THE DECEMBER 2020 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES.
COUNCIL. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY CAMERON.
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AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. AYES HAVE IT. MOVING ON.
NUMBER TEN. PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS.
[10. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20240723-010 designating certain officials as being responsible for, acting for, and on behalf of the City in dealing with the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, for the purpose of participating in the Local Park Non-Urban Indoor Recreation Grant program; certifying that the City is eligible to receive program assistance; certifying that the matching share for this application is readily available at this time; and dedicating the proposed site for permanent public park and recreational uses.]
NUMBER TEN, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 0723.DASH 010, DESIGNATING CERTAIN OFFICIALS AS BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR, ACTING FOR, AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, AND DEALING WITH THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PARTICIPATING IN THE LOCAL PARK NON-URBAN INDOOR RECREATION GRANT PROGRAM, CERTIFYING THAT THE CITY IS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE PROGRAM ASSISTANCE, CERTIFYING THAT THE MATCHING SHARE FOR THIS APPLICATION IS READILY AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME, AND DEDICATING THE PROPOSED SITE FOR PERMANENT PUBLIC PARK AND RECREATIONAL USES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF SEEING BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. SO WE NOW OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE THIS MAIER MRS. YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL.
SO I'LL JUST GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY COMMENTS.
THE CITY OF ANGLETON WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR THE LOCAL PARKS NON-URBAN INDOOR GRANT OFFERED BY THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR THE RECREATION CENTER IMPROVEMENTS.
A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED RESOLUTION IS A REQUIREMENT OF THIS GRANT APPLICATION.
THIS GRANT PROVIDES A 50% MATCH ON ON A REIMBURSED BASIS TO ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS, AND THIS GRANT CEILING IS $1.5 MILLION. THE LOCAL NON URBAN INDOOR RECREATION PROGRAM GRANT WAS DESIGNED TO BE AVAILABLE EVERY OTHER YEAR, BUT HAS NOT BEEN AVAILABLE FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS HISTORICALLY.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION SPECIFICALLY THIS YEAR.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IT HAS NOT BEEN OFFERED.
WE ABLC HAS AWARDED US SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
MANY OF YOU THAT WERE HERE LAST FISCAL YEAR MAY RECALL THAT OUR DECISION PACKAGES FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER ALONE AMOUNTED TO ABOUT $1.5 MILLION, AND REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS GRANT.
DECKING. WE HAVE ADA AND COMPLIANCE ISSUES THERE, SO WE'RE IN COMPLIANT WITH OUR DECKING.
SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER SERVED AS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER IN THE AFTERMATH OF HURRICANE BERYL, WHICH WAS AN INVALUABLE RESOURCE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND RESIDENTS.
MAINTAINING OWNERSHIP OF THIS ASSET WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE THE SERVICE INTO THE FUTURE.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ALLUDED TO EARLIER, ON JUNE 17TH, WE DID TALK TO ANGLETON.
WE HAD ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION MEETING, WHERE WE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL FUNDING SO WE COULD REALLY TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE 50% GRANT MATCH UPWARDS OF THAT 1.5 MILLION.
WHILE WE DIDN'T GET THERE, WE GOT PRETTY CLOSE.
SO ANGLETON BETTER LIVING CORPORATION ON THAT DATE DID APPROVE THAT.
WE UTILIZE THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS AT 274,000 CURRENTLY.
GRANT FUNDS HAVE TO BE READILY AVAILABLE.
AND SO ABLAK DID APPROVE THAT THOSE FUNDS BE UTILIZED FOR THIS GRANT APPLICATION.
ADDITIONALLY, WE ASKED FOR ANOTHER $150,000 TO BE READILY AVAILABLE AND ACCOUNTED FOR IN THEIR RECREATION IN THE ABLAK FUND BALANCE.
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THAT AMOUNT WAS ALSO APPROVED.SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE READILY AVAILABLE FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF 924,000.
IF AWARDED, GRANT ASSISTED SITES MUST REMAIN AS PARKLAND IN PERPETUITY.
SO THIS IS A GRANT THAT IS FOR INDOOR AND ALSO OUTDOOR.
SO YOU MIGHT HEAR SOME LANGUAGE THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S RELATED TO AN OUTDOOR FACILITY, BUT IT ALSO IMPLIES TO THE INDOOR GRANT NO NON-RECREATIONAL USE USES MAY BE INTRODUCED. BOUNDARIES CAN EXPAND, BUT CANNOT CONTRACT GRANT FUNDED CONSTRUCTION MUST REMAIN IN PLACE FOR 25 YEARS.
POOLS, SPLASH PADS AND INDOOR FACILITIES MUST REMAIN IN PLACE FOR 40 YEARS, BUT IT IS EXPECTED THAT REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS WOULD INCLUDE UPGRADING OR REPLACING PARTS AS NEEDED. A PERMANENT SIGN MUST REMAIN IN PLACE AND PARK LAND MUST REMAIN WELL MAINTAINED AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE KEEPING OUR HEADS DOWN AND APPLYING FOR IT AS WE SPEAK.
IF THIS DOES NOT PASS TODAY, WE WILL STOP OUR EFFORTS AND AND SUBMITTING THIS APPLICATION.
BUT THE DEADLINE TO APPLY IS AUGUST 1ST.
WE WILL LIKELY HEAR SOMETHING BY THE END OF DECEMBER FROM THE COMMISSION FROM THE STATE, AFTER THEY REVIEW ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED JANUARY, WE WOULD BE NOTIFIED JANUARY 2025.
WE WOULD BE NOTIFIED IF WE ARE BEING AWARDED THE GRANT.
BY THEY I MEAN TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE WOULD COME AND DO A SITE VISIT IN FEBRUARY.
ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ACTION FROM COUNCIL? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTSON AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DANIEL.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT.
BACK TO MISS MINA. MRS. MINA? YES, SO I WILL, WITH THAT SUMMARY, A BRIEF DESCRIPTION.
I WILL OPEN IT UP TO MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE GRANT.
FOR THIS SMALL SECTION THAT SAYS MUST BE USED FOR PARKS, RECREATION AND THAT RIGHT WILL THAT AFFECT US USING IT AS A RED CROSS SHELTER? SO NO, I DID GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO UTILIZING A PARK THAT HAS A GRANT ATTACHED TO IT, RUBEN WALSH PARK, SO WE CAN CLOSE IT FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES ON A TEMPORARY BASIS.
DURING THE DURING THE GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS, DO YOU GET TO PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK THAT YOU'VE USED THIS FOR HUMANITARIAN EFFORTS MORE THAN JUST. ABSOLUTELY.
WE CERTAINLY WILL. AND ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE GRANT APPLICATION IS LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
SO ONE OF OR ACTUALLY SEVERAL FOLKS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST TO REACH OUT TO ARE THE RED CROSS RED CROSS, THE COUNTY SINCE WE SERVED SOUTHERN BRAZORIA COUNTY IN THAT RED CROSS SHELTER.
THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED IN ABLC.
BUT HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, IF A NONPUBLIC, IF A PRIVATE INTEREST WERE TO TAKE OVER THIS FACILITY COULD THAT COULD THAT TAKE PLACE? YOU COULD NOT SELL IT, YOU COULD LEASE IT.
BUT THAT WOULD ALSO LIMIT YOU DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPES OF SERVICES YOU'RE WANTING TO PROVIDE.
FOR INSTANCE, THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT STAFF AND I HAD, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY, WE ENGAGED IN AN AGREEMENT WITH YMCA, BUT THEN WE WANTED THE AUTHORITY TO CLOSE THE FACILITY FOR A RED CROSS SHELTER.
BUT WHAT I'M MY CONCERN IS MORE OR LESS TYING THE HANDS OF FUTURE COUNCIL.
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AND SO IF A PRIVATE ENTITY SUCH AS YMCA, HYPOTHETICALLY WERE TO SAY, LEASE THE PROPERTY, EVEN IF IT'S FOR A NOMINAL FEE THE THEY THEY COULD CONTINUE THIS.THEY THAT WOULD NOT RUN AFOUL OF THIS, I GUESS.
AS LONG AS IT'S FOR PUBLIC USE AND THAT THE FEES ARE NOT OUTRAGEOUS, IT HAS TO BE A PUBLIC AMENITY THAT TRULY IS ACCESSIBLE AND REASONABLE FOR ALL.
SO WE COULD STILL, IN THEORY, ENGAGE IN SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT IF FUTURE COUNCILS DECIDE TO DO THAT.
CORRECT. IT DOES PROHIBIT YOU, THOUGH, FROM SELLING THE PROPERTY.
AND THERE HAS TO BE SOME LIMITATIONS ON THIS CITY'S USE OF IT, I GUESS, IN CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE WE'VE HAD WITH HURRICANE BERYL.
IT JUST WOULD ANYONE ENTERTAIN THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER CONCERN FOR MYSELF IS MUST REMAIN AS PARKLAND IN PERPETUITY.
THAT'S CORRECT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE IT CANNOT BE SOLD.
IT WOULD BE IN PERPETUITY AS A PARKLAND AS.
IN THEORY, AGAIN, I CAN'T PROCEED INTO THE FUTURE.
LET'S JUST SAY, HYPOTHETICALLY, ANOTHER HYPOTHETICAL.
THE CITY WERE FUTURE, LET'S SAY 25, 30 YEARS FROM NOW.
THEY SAY THIS PARK HAS SERVED ITS PURPOSE.
THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO PUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE COULD NOT DO THAT. COULD WE? COULD NOT DO THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT ONCE YOU AGREE TO IT, IT'S PERMANENT.
IT'S NOT A AT LEAST AS FAR AS PARKLAND, I GUESS.
I MEAN THAT THE CITY HAS TO RUN IT.
SOMEBODY AT SOME OTHER ORGANIZATION CAN.
AND EVEN RUN IT AS A FACILITY.
WELL, THOSE AMENITIES BECAME OBSOLETE AFTER 20 YEARS AND THEY WERE DILAPIDATED.
SO LET'S SAY THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER WAS SIMILAR, BECAME A DILAPIDATED BUILDING.
WELL, THAT'S CERTAINLY DOABLE.
I MEAN, IN THEORY, YOU COULD TEAR DOWN AND HAVE A GREEN SPACE, I GUESS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ACCESS TO MORE DOLLARS TO EXPAND THE REACH OF THE CEOS THAT WENT OUT.
CORRECT. CORRECT? I GET IT, BEING AN INDOOR RECREATION GRANT WOULD PROHIBIT US FROM FIXING AIR CONDITIONER COMPRESSORS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROOF.
ON THE OUTSIDE, IT WOULD BE INCLUDED, AND ACTUALLY IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MOST CERTAINLY PLAN TO INCLUDE, BECAUSE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE HAS THEIR OWN MASTER PLAN.
PART OF THAT IS ENERGY EFFICIENCY, SUSTAINABILITY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'D BE KIND OF PICKY NOT BEING NOT BEING ABLE TO CAULK THE OUTSIDE.
IF IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUILDING, WE CAN.
YEAH. YOU CAN APPLY THOSE FUNDS TO.
RIGHT. AND. I DON'T SEE A TIME WHEN THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE AN AREA THAT'S DESIGNATED FOR SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC USE WITH THE CITY.
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SO, I MEAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20240723010.OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN.
SECOND AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.
ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNAL I.
SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT AM I SORRY? BRAIN FART. AND THEN I'M INCLUDED IN THAT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER PUBLIC HEARING.
[11. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and take possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20240723-011 approving a request for a Rezoning Petition, for approximately 1 acre of land, currently zoned “C-OR”, Commercial- Office/Retail to be rezoned to “C-G”, Commercial-General District, for a shopping center currently located at 728-744 E. Henderson Rd., legally described as A0380 J DE J VALDERAS TRACT 110A7 (1Acre) (ANGLETON), Brazoria County, Texas.]
ITEM NUMBER 11.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 0723.
DASH ZERO 11, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR A REZONING PETITION FOR APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE OF LAND CURRENTLY ZONED C OR COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL TO BE REZONED TO C DASH C G COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT FOR A SHOPPING CENTER CURRENTLY LOCATED AT 728744 EAST HENDERSON ROAD.
LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A0380JDJ VALDERAS TRACT 1187 ONE ACRE ANGLETON COUNTY, TEXAS.
ALL RIGHT. ANY ACTION BY COUNCIL? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND.
GOT A GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DANIEL AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.
ALL IN FAVOR SAYING BY SAYING I.
PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN, AND WE HAVE OTIS.
GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.
THE JOE RAY ONE LLC IS REQUESTING THAT COUNCIL WOULD REZONE AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER FROM C FOUR, WHICH IS OUR COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL DISTRICT, TO CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
BACK IN 2005 THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME REZONED NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAT YOU SEE ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE TO CG AND LEFT SOME OF THOSE REMAINING TO C O R.
SO JERRY IS HOPING WITH THIS REZONING TO BASICALLY ACHIEVE CONSISTENCY IN THE AREA AND TO UTILIZE THE SHOPPING CENTER FOR ITS FULL USE AS COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND TO ATTRACT THE TENANTS AS SUCH.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERED THE MATTER ON JULY THE 2ND, AND IS RECOMMENDING UNANIMOUS APPROVAL 5 TO 0 OF THE REZONING. AND AS REQUESTED, WE DID ALSO NOTIFY EVERYONE WITHIN 200FT OF THE PROPERTY AND NOTICE THE REZONING REQUEST PROPERLY.
IN FACT, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS ADOPTED.
WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OR FOR OR AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 11.
AND I'LL ADD THAT THEY'RE MAKING NO CHANGES TO THE BUILDING, NO INCREASE IN INTENSITY.
THEY'LL UTILIZE IT AS IS JUST TO ATTRACT FUTURE TENANTS FOR THE SPACE.
AND THEN THERE IS A CASE THAT WILL APPEAR FOR BEFORE YOU FOR AN SUPP FOR ONE OF THE PROPOSED USES.
AND MR. FELDER IS AVAILABLE AS OWNER.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE OWNERSHIP.
YEAH. MY QUESTION IS JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OFFICE RETAIL AND THE GENERAL? I MEAN, I ASSUME IT GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY.
WHAT'S WHAT'S THE BIGGEST VARIETY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
TYPICALLY YOU'RE A COMMERCIAL OFFICE.
RETAIL USES WOULD BE IN THE FABRIC OF RESIDENTIAL, AND THEY WOULD LIMIT CERTAIN HIGH INTENSE CG USES WITH THIS AMOUNTED AMOUNT OF ACREAGE.
WE DO NOT, YOU KNOW, EXPECT THEM TO OVER DENSIFY OR TO PUT SOMETHING THERE.
OTHERWISE BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF USES EVEN WITHIN THE CG, AS YOU KNOW IF THEY DO NOT FIT WITHIN THE AREA, THEN THEY ARE SUPS TYPICALLY, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT TONIGHT AS WELL.
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AND JUST.MIND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MAP THAT'S PROVIDED THE ZONING MAP WE SEE ONE RESIDENTIAL LOT.
THAT ONE THAT'S LEFT IN BETWEEN.
AND THEN THERE'S STILL ONE COMMERCIAL OFFICE RETAIL LOT REMAINING.
EXACTLY. THOSE ARE NOT UTILIZED PROPERTIES.
IN FACT, RECENTLY WORKED ON WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND IT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP.
THE CORE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT SO WE'VE BEEN KEEPING AN EYE ON THOSE, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT.
SPENCER. THERE. EXCUSE ME? THERE'S A DRAINAGE DITCH THROUGH THERE.
OKAY. WE DIDN'T GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE LETTERS YOU SENT OUT.
WE RECEIVED NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON ANY OF THESE CASES ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
CORRECT. THE STRUCTURE IS ALREADY THERE.
IT'S OKAY. IT'S BASICALLY USE ASSOCIATED IN THIS REQUEST.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I THINK WE DID THAT. WE DID THAT.
OKAY. I THINK THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE ASKING QUESTIONS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MEMBER ORDINANCE 20240723011.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTSON.
A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BOOTH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTION? I'M WONDERING HOW IT EVER GOT ZONED THIS WAY TO START WITH.
AND WE TRY TO LOOK UP THE HISTORY ON IT.
THEN YOU SAW THE PROPERTIES BEING REZONED TO COMMERCIAL AFTER THAT IN 2005.
YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT.
[12. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and take possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20240723-012 approving a Specific Use Permit (SUP) for a Tattoo Studio at 740 E. Henderson Rd., on property legally described as A0380 J DE J VALDERAS TRACT 110A7 (1Acre) (ANGLETON), Brazoria County, Texas.]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION.TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240723012 APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
EXCUSE ME. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ACP FOR TATTOO TATTOO STUDIO AT 740 EAST HENDERSON ROAD ON PROPERTY LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A03 80 J DJ VALDERAS TRACK 110, A71 ACRE ANGLETON BRAZORIA COUNTY, TEXAS.
ANY MOTIONS LIKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? I HAVE A MOTION. MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTS AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BOOTH.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION.
THIS ITEM BY JURY, LLC WAS ALSO CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND IT'S BEING FORWARDED TO YOU WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
THIS SUP WAS CONTINGENT UPON THE PROPERTY BEING ZONED TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL, AND THE REQUEST THIS EVENING IS FOR A TATTOO STUDIO TO BE LOCATED AT ONE OF THE SPACES AT 740 EAST HENDERSON.
WE HAVE WEIGHED THE CRITERIA OF THE SUP.
AND AS NOTED IN SOME OF THAT TESTIMONY, THE STUDIO WOULD BE SOLELY BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.
THERE'S NO GATHERINGS OF ANY SORT TO OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACCEPTED SOME OF THE CONDITIONS BY STAFF AS IT RELATES TO THE LICENSING, AS IT RELATED TO IT HAVING A ONE YEAR DURATION OF THIS APPROVAL FOR RECONSIDERATION.
IN THE YEAR, WE WOULD REEVALUATE THE USE JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO ISSUES.
TO ALSO OFFER A CONTINUANCE FROM THERE.
SO THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE COUNCIL IN ONE YEAR.
SO THERE ARE CONDITIONS THAT ARE SITE SPECIFIC THAT ARE ATTACHED IN THE ORDINANCE.
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AND EVERYTHING WAS ADVERTISED AND THOSE WITHIN 200FT WERE NOTIFIED OF THE PROPOSAL AND THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION NOTED.THIS IS A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION BEING FORWARDED TO YOU.
SO WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
AND THE OWNER, MR. FELDER, IS HERE REPRESENTING THIS ITEM AS WELL.
OKAY. ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? ANY QUESTIONS? DOES IT SAY WHAT HOURS THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPEN OR.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE SCHEDULED APPOINTMENTS, BUT THEY'RE BY APPOINTMENT.
BUT YEAH, THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
AS NOTED IN THE ORDINANCE AND SPECIFICALLY FROM 7 TO 9 P.M..
HE REQUESTED THAT FLEXIBILITIES BECAUSE SOME OF THE TATTOOS TAKE A LITTLE LONGER.
DOES ANYBODY PLAN TO SPEAK ON THAT? NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, I DON'T THINK ON THE ITEM, BUT MR. FELDER, THE OWNER, IS HERE.
IS MR. MUNOZ, UNFORTUNATELY COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.
HE HAD A CONFLICT IN THE SCHEDULE AND WE HAD ALREADY ADVERTISED THE HEARING.
DO YOU KNOW IF ANY OF YOU KNOW IT'S GREAT.
DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S IS HE WORKING? ANY OTHER LOCATIONS? HE'S CURRENTLY LOCATED IN A DIFFERENT CITY.
HE'S TRYING TO MOVE HERE TO ANGLETON AND BRING THE BUSINESS HERE.
BUT THIS ONE, I THINK WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS CLOSELY.
IT'S JUST THAT IT WASN'T CG ORIGINALLY.
AND HE WOULD NOT BE DOING ANY TYPE OF MICROBLADING, AS NOTED IN THE RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS.
AND THERE IS NO OBJECTION FROM ANY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA? NO, SIR.
NOT SINCE WE SUBMITTED THOSE TO THOSE NEIGHBORS BEFORE JULY 2ND.
NO ONE APPEARED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION EITHER.
AND WE'VE HEARD NO OPPOSITION TO DATE.
I ASSUME THIS IS JUST ONE TENANT IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
IT'S NOT GOING TO CONSUME THE WHOLE SHOPPING CENTER, SIR.
I SAID, THIS IS JUST ONE TENANT IN THE SHOP.
ONE SPACE. RIGHT? THERE'S MULTIPLE FOUR SPOTS THERE AND THREE OR.
THREE ARE TAKEN. WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE.
I'M SORRY. THIS IS ALL RECORDED.
AND. THERE'S FOUR SPOTS THERE.
AND WITH MR. MUNOZ, THE THREE OUT OF THE FOUR WILL BE FILLED UP.
WE JUST HAD ONE CLIENT THAT LEFT.
UNFORTUNATELY, SHE SHUT DOWN AFTER THREE YEARS.
SO YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF TOUGH TIMES FOR THEM EVENTUALLY.
OKAY. AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME HE'S TRIED TO COME TO ANGLETON.
HE INFORMED US THAT, YOU KNOW, SO.
YES. LAST TIME YOU DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVED, SIR.
HE TOLD ME THESE BUSINESSES GENERALLY FALL INTO AN AREA OF CONTROVERSY WITHIN OUR WITHIN OUR CITY.
THE ONLY THING. I REALLY HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT.
THAT'S OKAY IN THAT THAT THE STUDIO WOULD BE OPEN TO SEVEN AT AM ON A SUNDAY MORNING.
I JUST THAT'S JUST DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY BEEN TEXAS, BUT OKAY.
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THOSE WERE JUST THE HOURS HE AGREED TO.YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH HIM, AND OTIS WAS WORKING WITH HIM, TRYING TO JUST GET SOMETHING HAMMERED OUT TO MAKE IT VIABLE FOR HIM TO COME DOWN. JUST REAL QUICK, IF, YOU KNOW HIS CURRENT LOCATION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL US WHERE WHAT'S THE REPUTATION? DOES HE HAVE A REPUTATION? I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO.
WHERE IS THAT NOW? YES. WHERE IS IS IT REPUTATION? DOES HE HAVE A POSITIVE? OH, A VERY POSITIVE ONE.
HE'S ONE OF THE HIGHER END ONE OF THE BETTER TATTOO ARTISTS AS WE UNDERSTAND IT.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY TATTOOS, SO I UNDERSTAND.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN PUTTING SOMEBODY IN THERE.
IT'S GOING TO BE A PAIN TO ANYBODY ELSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I FELT LIKE THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE TROUBLE.
HE WOULDN'T BE THERE BECAUSE I DON'T LEAVE MY PHONE RINGING SOMETIME.
I UNDERSTAND FOR THIS SITUATION MAKES SENSE TO ME.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK I JUST RECALLED GIVING THE THIRD DEGREE TO THE COSMETIC TATTOOING FACILITY.
AND AND THIS IS A FULL FLEDGED TATTOOING FACILITY.
SO I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE CRITICISM THAT THEY RECEIVED.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. FELDER OR ANYBODY ELSE? ANY ACTION FROM COUNSEL? YOUR PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.
IT'S STILL PUBLIC HEARING. YOU'RE STILL IN THE PUBLIC.
I APOLOGIZE, I NEED TO CLOSE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE YOU GO. WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY MR. COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTSON, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DANIELS.
AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
SORRY. NOW, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ON COUNCIL? HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THOUGHTS? IDEAS? I KNOW THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED, THAT'S THE ONLY THING TO BE DONE IN HERE IN A SPECIFIC LOCATION IS AS A TATTOO PARLOR.
AND THEY'RE UNDER THE ONE YEAR EXPIRATION.
IT'S GOT TO BE WITHOUT WITHOUT SOME SORT OF AMENDMENT TO THIS PERMIT.
THE SPACE SPECIFICALLY FOR TATTOOING.
SO SO IF HE VACATES IN THREE MONTHS, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE A YEAR BEFORE HE CAN GET HIS PERMIT? NO, NO, WE'RE SAYING YOU'RE STUCK.
YOU'RE STUCK WITH A TATTOO PARLOR FOR A YEAR REGARDLESS.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RENT THAT SPACE OUT OR UTILIZE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
IF HE ROLLS OUT IN 90 DAYS OR 60 DAYS OR WHATEVER.
YOU'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK US TO KILL YOU.
I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND WE HAVE TO GET HIS PERMIT RESCINDED.
THAT'S FINE. I DON'T ANTICIPATE HE'S SIGNING A THREE YEAR LEASE.
SO, YOU KNOW, HE'S HE'S NOT ACTING.
I THINK HE LIVES RIGHT HERE IN TOWN.
SO HE'S NOT INTERESTED IN LEAVING.
SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY TROUBLE WITH HIM.
SO WE WILL REVISIT THIS ISSUE IN A YEAR.
WITH A YEAR IN THE YEAR FOR CONSIDERATION OF A CONTINUANCE AND GIVE YOU A STATUS OF THE OPERATIONS.
COUNCIL. IS THERE ANY ACTION? ON.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240723-012 FOR A SUP FOR THIS
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AS IN THIS ITEM.OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BOOTH TO APPROVE.
ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
[13. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and take possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20240723-013 approving a Specific Use Permit to allow a TNMP Electrical Power Distribution Substation (White Oak Substation) on a 15.70-acre site, and a TNMP Electrical Power Distribution Substation (CenterPoint) on a 16.72-acre site, out of a 41.8759 acre tract of land within the “C-G”, Commercial-General District, located adjacent and north of 3343 E Mulberry St/ HWY 35, Angleton, TX 77515 (PID No. 168906) and legally described as A0318 T S LEE BLOCK 42 TRACT 39A-40-41-41C-41D46A1-47A (OLIVER & BARROW SD) ACRES 41.8759, Brazoria County, Texas.]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240723.DASH 013 APPROVING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW TN MP ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION SUBSTATION PARENTHESES, WHITE OAK STATION ON A 15.70 ACRE SITE AND A TN MP ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION SUBSTATION.
PARENTHESES CENTER POINT ON A 16.72 ACRE SITE OUT OF A 41.8759 ACRE TRACT OF LAND WITHIN THE CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT, LOCATED ADJACENT AND NORTH OF 3343 EAST MULBERRY STREET.
SLASH HIGHWAY 35, ANGLETON, TEXAS 77515.
PID NUMBER 168906 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A0318.
T S LEE BLOCK 42, TRACT 39 A 40 4141, C 41, D DASH 46, A, ONE DASH 47 A PARENTHESE, OLIVER AND BARROW, S.D.
IN PARENTHESES. ACRES 41.8759 BRAZORIA COUNTY, TEXAS.
GOOD JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, OTIS, AGAIN, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
I FORGOT TO CALL FOR A VOTE. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.
I WILL NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THE MOTION.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. NOW PROCEED.
COUNCIL. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR TWO SUBSTATIONS.
AS YOU HAVE DESCRIBED THE LOCATION.
THIS IS, OF COURSE, IN OUR NORTH EASTERN SECTOR OF THE CITY, AS YOU SEE THE PROPERTY ALONG THE FRONTAGE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL ON THAT FRONTAGE AND YOU HAVE SOME ETJ PORTIONS OF THE TRACT THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE FIELDED DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AS YOU SEE IN THE RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS REGARDING THIS TYPE OF FACILITY, WHICH IS NOT POWER GENERATING, BUT HOW THEY WOULD TRANSFER THAT POWER FROM THE EXISTING TOWERS DOWN TO THE LOCAL RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL USAGE WITHIN THE CITY.
IN TERMS OF IMPROVING THE GRID, WE DO HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION FROM PAPE DAWSON, WHICH IS THE ENGINEERING FIRM REPRESENTING BOTH OF THE CLIENTS. AND WHO IS A LITTLE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
SOUND. THOSE ARE COVERED IN THE CONDITIONS WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.
AND THEN ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU SAW IN THE RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS HAD TO DO WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF ANNEXING THE THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY INTO THE CITY.
WITH THE PLAN FOR ANNEXATION FROM ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONSIDER THAT.
FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, FOR THIS SEGMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS IN THE GATEWAY OF THE COMMUNITY ENTRANCE INTO THE CITY, AND WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID A CAVITY IN THE MAPPING IN TERMS OF LAND.
THAT WOULD BE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ANNEXED BY WINDROSE GREEN, WHICH IS JUST ABOVE THIS.
THE APPLICANTS ARE WORKING WITH THEIR LEGAL REPRESENTATION OF THE PROPERTY.
[01:15:02]
AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH LEGAL TO PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE REGARDING THE FUTURE ANNEXATION THAT THEY WOULD MAKE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO ACCOMMODATE THE ANNEXATION AND THEN PROVIDE A SCHEDULE OF THAT PROCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS AND ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
IT WAS 4 TO 0 ON THIS VOTE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND OTHER THAN THAT, THE CONDITIONS ARE LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF, WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THAT.
BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FRONTAGE PROPERTY THIS EVENING.
ON THE CG GENERAL COMMERCIAL FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE UTILITY SUBSTATION, AS NOTED.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL SPEAK AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY. COUNCIL CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE STILL HAVE OTIS UP THERE.
I THINK CHRIS SAID HE WISHED TO SPEAK, SO.
THANK YOU. I DID SPEAK TO PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN THIS ISSUE CAME UP.
I THINK OUR CONCERN IS THE CITY.
ALTHOUGH RIGHT NOW IT'S ON THE OUTSIDE ISH OF THE CITY LIMITS.
YOU KNOW, SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE, WHEN THE CITY IS DEVELOPED AROUND IT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS POCKET OF THE COUNTY SITTING WITHIN THE CITY. AND SO THEORETICALLY, UNLESS WE LOOK THE OTHER WAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.
THAT REALLY IS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY, AND IT IS REVENUE FOR THE CITY BY BEING IN IF IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS, ITS PROPERTY VALUE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I RECOMMENDED THAT THE DISCUSSION OF ANNEXATION.
TO RECEIVE ANY KICKBACK FROM ASKING THEM TO BE ANNEXED.
BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN EVER BEEN PRESENTED WITH THAT.
OR IS THAT JUST WITHIN THE COMMITTEE? SO WE HAD DISCUSSION WITH THEM IN A MEETING.
AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID MY RECOMMENDATION WAS GOING TO BE TO YOU ALL.
BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN BENCHMARK WAS BENCHMARKED BEFORE THEY SOLD THE AISD.
ISD. THAT IN LIEU OF THAT, THEY JUST THEY PAID A ANNUAL FEE TO THE CITY.
SO I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR ATTORNEY.
BUT I THINK THOSE OTHER ARRANGEMENTS.
BUT I THINK FOR FOR THE NEATNESS AND CONTINUITY OF THE CITY BOUNDARIES AND UNDERSTANDING RESPONSES AND AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. WHITTAKER. JUST JUST FOR CONTINUITY'S SAKE, YOU KNOW, YOU CUT ALL ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY BEING A BEING A COUPLE OF SUBSTATIONS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE.
BE NICE TO HAVE IT ALL THE SAME THING.
AND I UNDERSTAND FROM THE NOTES IT'S NOT GOING TO GENERATE ANY NOISE.
GRACE. IT'S A GENERAL STEPDOWN TRANSFORMERS.
[01:20:05]
IT'S PULLING POWER FROM THE GRID DOWN TO THE SERVICE.THERE'S GOING TO BE SMALLER FANS AND GENERATORS.
THESE ARE IT'S GOING TO BE TOTAL 30 ACRES.
THE ROAD IS YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR NOISE ON THE ROAD BEFORE YOU HEAR THE GENERATORS AND THE FAN.
THERE ARE NO BUT THEY'RE LIKE OIL FIELD TRANSFORMERS.
AND WE'LL HAVE FANS COOLING FANS.
I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS GRACIE WITH PAY DAWSON.
WHEN YOU SAY GENERATORS, ELABORATE.
WHAT ARE THEY RUNNING OFF OF? WHAT TYPE ARE THEY? THEY HAVE A LITTLE CONTROL BUILDINGS THAT THE GENERATOR JUST RUNS TO SUPPORT THAT CONTROL OF THE GAS.
NATURAL GAS LIKE A LIKE A TURBINE? NO. IT'S ELECTRIC.
THERE'S NO GAS COMING TO THE SITE.
SO WHAT? SO WHAT'S THE GENERATOR PORTION OF THIS? IT'S JUST ELECTRICAL RUNNING.
IT'S REALLY TO SUPPLY A GENERATOR.
IT'S A BATTERY. IT'S A STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER ESSENTIALLY.
YEAH. YEAH. THAT THEY'RE FEEDING OFF OF.
NOW IT'S COMPLETELY PULLING POWER JUST OFF THE TRANS TRANSMISSION.
AND THEN THE CENTER POINT OWNS THE TRANSMISSION LINE.
OKAY. SO. THAT HELPS CLARIFY WHY THERE WERE TWO SUBSTATIONS THERE.
NOT A LOT. YEAH, I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER.
IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, TOO.
SO. SO I GUESS TEXAS, NEW MEXICO'S IS THE STEP DOWN TRANSFORMERS.
RIGHT. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SUBSTATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN AROUND, YOU JUST REALLY DON'T EVEN REALIZE THEY'RE THERE.
ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THOUGHTS? I JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS.
AND THE QUESTION? I'M JUST READING THROUGH IT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANNEXING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IT'S IT'S A VOLIN.
IT HAS TO BE A VOLUNTARY ANNEX.
THE LANGUAGE WE CRAFTED IS IN SECTION THREE.
YOU FLIPPED IT ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE? YES. THE LAST PAGE OF THE ORDINANCE.
THANK YOU. TRYING TO FIND IT? YEAH. RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE.
SO THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THAT.
ADDITIONAL APPROVAL. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, THOUGHTS OR MOTIONS BY COUNSEL?
[01:25:09]
WE JUST HAVE TO BE FINISHED.YOU USED THE WORD CONDITIONAL.
MY CONCERN IS CAN YOU MAKE SOMETHING CONDITIONAL ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN CONDITION SOMEBODY TO VOLUNTARILY JOIN YOU.
MAYBE YOU CAN. I SEE NO PLAN TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ANNEXATION.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU DISCUSSED AS FAR AS BEING ANNEXED? THESE THESE FACILITIES BEING ANNEXED INTO THE FACILITY, THE CITY, THE THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S THE ISSUE WHERE THEY NEED SOME TIME, WHICH WE WERE NOTIFIED THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
SO AND THEY'VE BEEN A LITTLE BUSY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SO THEY HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO REVIEW ALL THAT.
AND THAT'S THEY'VE ASKED TO HAVE SOME TIME TO REVIEW ALL THAT PAPERWORK, WHICH IS WHICH.
FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IT'S NOT A LOT OF PAPERWORK.
IT'S A PETITION WE HAVE TO PUBLISH.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE.
SO. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION ARE WE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES? AND THE CONCERN WOULD BE LET'S SAY WE ISSUED THIS SOUP AND THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO ANNEX.
AND I DON'T KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW LONG THAT TAKES, BUT THEY'RE IN A RUSH TO DO IT.
BUT SO IF THEY DON'T DO IT, THEN THE ORDINANCE IS VIOLATED.
BUT BUT ON THEIR PART, IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO DO.
THEY JUST HAVE TO REQUEST ANNEXATION AND WE TAKE CARE OF THE REST.
SO IT'S WE DO THE HEAVY LIFTING.
WILL THEY DO IT? ALL THEY HAVE TO DO, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO, IS TO ASK.
WE ASK? WELL, I'M NOT THINKING.
I WANT TO HAVE NOTHING TO ME BUT OTHERS.
THAT MAY BE. WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO IT THEN.
THE SHEEP. I SAID I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ALL IN ONE.
IT ALL ANNEXED IN ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
I MEAN, FROM OUR SIDE, IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT IN THE BEST, THE BEST WAY WE CAN FOR THE CITY.
THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ANNEXATION.
OTHERWISE THEY HAVE THEIR VIOLATION OF THE CITY AND THEY GOT TO COME BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU ARE IDENTIFYING THAT THERE IS A RISK.
THE RISK IS THAT THEY GET THE SOUP, THEY GO AHEAD AND PUT THE SUBSTATION IN.
RIGHT. SO THEY'RE TAKING A FINANCIAL RISK AS THEY'RE PUTTING IT THERE.
IF AT THE END OF THE YEAR THE CITY REALIZES, OH, WHOOPS, YOU DIDN'T DO THE ANNEXATION, THEN WE DO HAVE LEGAL RECOURSE AGAIN, THE SUBSTATION IS ALREADY IN. YEAH.
MOST LIKELY THE LEGAL RECOURSE IS GOING TO FORCE THEM INTO AN ANNEXATION ANYWAY.
[01:30:03]
SO AT THAT TIME, I THINK WE CAN UPDATE YOU ON THAT 90 DAY THRESHOLD.AND THEN DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS, WE'LL MAKE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF THIS MATTER.
FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL BUY IT. LET ME ASK YOU THIS LONG TERM.
YOU PUT IN STATIONS LIKE THIS.
DOES THIS PROHIBIT DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT? RESIDENTIAL? YOU'RE ASKING ME? YES. I THINK IT ACTUALLY IMPROVES.
IT BRINGS YOU THE SERVICES NEEDED FOR IMPROVEMENTS AROUND IT.
I MEAN, WERE THE EASEMENTS EXIST, ONLY ONE OF THESE EASEMENTS EXIST? I'M JUST. IT SEEMS LIKE PRIME PROPERTY ONE DAY FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT LOCKING SOMEBODY OUT FROM FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT BASED BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
I MEAN, ANY KIND OF POWER IMPROVEMENTS TO INSIDE OR AROUND THE CITY WOULD BENEFIT US? YES. COST OF CRIME, PROPERTY.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE COULD ADD ABOUT BURYING POWER LINES? I KNOW IT WOULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE, COST PROHIBITIVE.
THE SOUTHERNMOST LOT IS WHERE YOUR COMMERCIAL PRIME REAL ESTATE IS.
THE NORTH TWO LOTS GOT ALREADY THE TRANSMISSION LINE RUNNING THROUGH IT.
IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO DEVELOP ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240723-3 APPROVING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW T TEXAS NEW MEXICO ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION SUBSTATION ON THIS SIDE.
SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION BEFORE I SECOND THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THE CONDITIONS THAT THAT P AND Z SUGGESTED HERE.
THEY'RE IN THE ORDINANCE. THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE IN THEY'RE IN THE ORDINANCE.
OKAY. AND THEY'VE STILL GOT TO COME BACK FOR PLANNING AND ALL THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS AGAIN HERE SOON.
SECOND, APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTS.
BUT YOU'RE SORT OF SAYING, HERE IT IS ON THE HIGHWAY, WE'RE COMING INTO TOWN.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF NICE LOOKING STUFF OUT THERE, TREES IN THE FRONT, NOT JUST A LITTLE BARE GALVANIZED STEEL, YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING TO MAYBE HELP WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DEVELOP WHEN THEY START SUBMITTING YOUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
YEAH, THERE IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN ATTACHED TO THE PLANS, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT'S ENHANCED.
PLANTS AND TREES UNDER THE HIGHLANDS.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NOT SURE.
NO, I THINK I THINK CECIL MAKES, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER MAKES A GOOD POINT.
I THINK ANY TIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MAIN ARTERIAL ROAD TO YOUR CITY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH HAS A LOOKS, YOU KNOW, CLUNKY OR JUNKY, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT TENDS TO REFLECT ON WHAT PEOPLE PERCEIVE OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT TOWN, EVEN THOUGH THAT MAY NOT BE TRUE.
BUT ANYWAY OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AGAIN ON THE TABLE.
FOR THING FURTHER BEFORE I CALL FOR A VOTE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OKAY.
[14. Update, discussion and possible action from Enterprise Fleet Management.]
YES, SIR.OKAY, CHRIS, CHRIS WANTS TO ADDRESS.
SO THIS IS AN ANNUAL UPDATE BY ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT.
SO THEY'LL TALK ABOUT THE METRICS, THE STATUS OF THE FLEET.
AND WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT.
I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. MY NAME IS STEPHEN CAMPBELL.
I'M WITH ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT.
[01:35:02]
WE'VE BEEN PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR JUST OVER FOUR YEARS NOW.SO TODAY, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS GIVE A QUICK, JUST BROAD INDUSTRY UPDATE ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS AND THEN GO INTO SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT YOU GUYS HAD LAST FISCAL YEAR, 2023 COMPARED TO 2022.
AND THEN WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE NEEDS FOR REPLACEMENTS AND ADDING VEHICLES TO THE LEASED FLEET.
ALL RIGHT. WE CAN CONTINUE ON.
SO THIS IS JUST AN INDUSTRY UPDATE.
JUST WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN AROUND AS FAR AS ACQUISITION PRICES OF VEHICLES? WE'RE SEEING THEM STARTING TO COME DOWN ALMOST 4%, WHICH IS GOOD.
YOU KNOW, POST COVID, THINGS STARTED TO GO UP, BUT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE INCENTIVES COME BACK, WHICH IS LEADING TO THE ACQUISITION PRICE OF VEHICLES WHEN WE ORDER THEM TO GO DOWN. ON THE OTHER HAND, REMARKETING HAS GONE 3.3% DOWN, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S STARTING TO LEVEL OFF.
IT GOT IT DID GET CRAZY DURING COVID.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOUR ASSETS ARE STILL WORTH A LOT.
THEY'RE A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY IS FUEL WAS DOWN 8% YEAR OVER YEAR.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT MORE.
I HAVE Y'ALL'S FUEL DATA HERE.
ONE THING THAT HAS INCREASED IS MAINTENANCE ON THE FLEET OF VEHICLES.
SO THAT WAS LOCKED IN TO THAT.
SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH EXPERIENCE OF THAT BECAUSE IT WAS FIXED AND BUDGETED.
SOME OLDER VEHICLES I KNOW THE POLICE WAS MENTIONED THERE.
IT'S GONE UP 50 BASIS POINTS BASED ON A THREE YEAR TREASURY BILL THERE.
JUST AS YOU KNOW, MORTGAGE RATES, INTEREST RATES, ANYTIME THERE'S LENDING THERE, IT'S ACTUALLY AS WE SIT HERE TODAY ON THE DECLINE, NOT TOO CRAZY, BUT IT HAS GONE DOWN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
I TYPICALLY THINK THEY'VE INCREASED A LITTLE MORE.
BUT THE REASON FOR THAT, AS YOU KNOW, VEHICLES NOW HAVE A LITTLE MORE BELLS AND WHISTLES WHEN THEY DO GET INTO ACCIDENTS WHERE THERE'S JUST A MINOR FENDER BENDER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPAIR THOSE ITEMS. SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
AND THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD NEWS FROM AN ORDERING PERSPECTIVE THERE.
ALL RIGHT. THE FIRST I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS GENERAL MOTORS.
THE WHICH IS VERY NICE COMING OUT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THERE.
THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS TO THAT ARE YOUR CHEVY TAHOES, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS THE CHEVY SUBURBAN AND THE CHEVY COLORADO AND THE EQUINOX.
I'M SORRY, THE EXPRESS VANS AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE STILL GOING TO BE ON VERY, VERY TIGHT ALLOCATION THERE.
ONE THING THAT'S NICE ABOUT TALKING WITH THE WITH YOUR, YOUR CITY HERE IS THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY IF DOES IT NEED TO BE A TAHOE? CAN WE WAIT TILL THINGS COME BACK DOWN? BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS DELAY REPLACING SOME VEHICLES THAT MAY BE IN NEED TO DO SO FOR THAT.
SO DEALER INVENTORY ALSO KEEPS CREEPING UP.
AT ONE TIME IT WAS DOWN TO 30 DAYS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE DEALERSHIPS PRICING STILL ISN'T QUITE BACK.
WE SAW THAT, YOU KNOW, 3.9% DOWN WHEN YOU GO DIRECTLY TO THE MANUFACTURERS.
DEALERSHIPS ARE STILL TRYING TO SQUEEZE AS MUCH OUT THERE.
THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, GOING DIRECTLY TO THE MANUFACTURERS, THE BEST THING, IT TYPICALLY SAVES AROUND ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO $9000 PER VEHICLE, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.
THEY ARE FINALIZING THEIR 2024 PRODUCTION, BUT YOU CAN STILL ORDER 2500 FOR FOR THEM.
AND THEN THE 25 MODEL YEAR WE ANTICIPATE TO COME OUT.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING RUMORS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING HIGHER INCENTIVES IN 2025 COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE VERY GOOD, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED ON THE GOVERNMENT SIDE OF THINGS.
THE INCENTIVES REALLY SHRUNK DOWN.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT COME BACK, WHICH WILL BE REALLY NICE IN PREPPING FOR THE FLEET.
[01:40:01]
NEXT SLIDE. GOTCHA.AND FORD KIND OF THE SAME STORY AS THE OTHER TWO.
IT'LL BE A SMOOTHER YEAR FROM ORDERING VEHICLES.
MOST ARE GOING TO BE OPEN FLOW TO ORDER.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY STILL ORDER A 2024 F 150 OR SUPER DUTY.
NOW WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO SHUT DOWN ANY WEEK NOW, AND THEY'LL START RETOOLING FOR THE 2025 THERE.
AND AS YOU NOTICED, THE COLORADO IS GOING TO BE ON STRICT ALLOCATIONS.
SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT LOOKING AT MAYBE A NISSAN FOR THAT VEHICLE.
FROM THERE. AND AS I MENTIONED HERE WITH THE STRONGER FLEET PACKAGE.
SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE FOR JUST TO TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE'VE ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE CITY, WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF GETTING CREATIVE, MOVING VERY QUICKLY WHEN ORDER BANKS HAVE BEEN OPENED OR CLOSED DRAMATICALLY TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO STILL BENEFIT FROM GOING DIRECTLY TO THE MANUFACTURER.
THE GOOD NEWS IS, NOW WE CAN KIND OF TAKE A BREATH AND AND DO A, YOU KNOW, GET BACK TO OUR STANDARD MODEL OF, OF FLEET PLANNING AND MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITY.
SO IT'S IT'S ALL GOOD NEWS WHEN IT COMES TO WITH THE MANUFACTURERS OF THE VEHICLES.
FROM THERE AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE IS YOU GUYS INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF FUEL SPEND BY 18%, A LITTLE OVER 18% WITH YOUR 42 FUEL CARDS THAT YOU HAVE THERE. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THE 18% INCREASE IN FUEL.
YOU ONLY HAD AN INCREASE OF ALMOST 2% IN YOUR FUEL EXPENSES, AND I WISH I COULD TAKE A LITTLE CREDIT FOR THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S THINGS WE WANT TO KEEP TRACK OF HERE IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE DRIVING A LITTLE MORE INCREASING THAT ON THE FUEL THERE.
SO I ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING TO SHOW YOU GUYS WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING ON FUEL THERE.
AS YOU AS YOU KNOW, IN 2022 FISCAL YEAR IT WAS TOUGH.
YOU KNOW WE COULDN'T ORDER THE VEHICLE.
SO WE HAD TO HOLD ON TO ANOTHER YEAR.
THE GOOD NEWS IS WE WERE ABLE TO GET BACK TO KIND OF REPLACING VEHICLES.
IN FISCAL YEAR 2023, WE SOLD 29 OF YOUR VEHICLES FOR $945,000.
THESE ARE VEHICLES THAT WERE IN YOUR FLEET THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE FLEET.
YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T LEASING THOSE TO YOU, BUT WE DISPOSED OF SOME VEHICLES ON YOU ON YOUR BEHALF.
AND YOU, THE CITY RECEIVED $30,125 THAT YEAR.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL KEEP THE REMARKETING SIDE GOING AND KEEP MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THERE.
YES, SIR. SO OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE BUILT UP THIS PROGRAM YOU KNOW, STANDARDIZATION OF CREW CAB, YOU KNOW, 1500S AND POLICE VEHICLES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO THIS YEAR, WE'RE I THINK WE'VE REALLY LISTENED TO EMPLOYEES.
AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES ARE BASED OFF OF THAT.
AND SO SOME OF THE, THE VEHICLES IN THE MIDDLE, THE COMPACT PICKUP, THE THREE QUARTER TON STUFF THAT'S CHANGING OUT OF 1500 TO 1 OF THOSE. AND IT'S FOR TOWING REASONS, OR THE COMPACT PICKUP IS FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE RIGHT FLEET.
WE DID THE SORT OF MASS REPLACEMENT BEFORE, BUT I DON'T THINK AS AN ORGANIZATION WE EVER TAKEN THE TIME TO SAY, WELL, WE REALLY NEED THIS FOR TOWING OR THIS FOR OTHER PURPOSES. AND SO THAT'S WHAT KIND OF THE MIDDLE PORTION OF THAT IS THE, THE REPLACE THE SENIOR BUS.
SO WE'VE GOT ONE BUS FROM ENTERPRISE THAT WE'RE LEASING.
THE BUS THAT WE'RE WE'RE PROPOSING TO REPLACE IS THE CDBG GRANT FROM THE COUNTY X NUMBER OF YEARS AGO THAT USED TO BE THE WRAPPED PURPLE AND WHITE.
NOW IT'S THEN IT WAS FADED PURPLE AND WHITE.
BUT THAT'S A MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
[01:45:10]
CHRIS, DON'T WE HAVE ONE THAT'S SUV THAT'S JUST PARKED BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING OR SOMETHING.WE'VE GOT ONE. IT'S JUST NOT COST PRODUCTIVE TO MAKE THE REPAIRS.
AND WE'RE TALKING SEVERAL SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS.
GO AHEAD. SURE. YEAH, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT.
THOSE ARE NOT LEASED VEHICLES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE.
AND THE THE THE RULE OF THUMB IS YOU WANT TO REPLACE A POLICE VEHICLE EVERY FOUR YEARS OR 100, 110,000 MILES. AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY FOR MAINTENANCE IS ONE, SAFETY IS ANOTHER, AND THEN THE EQUIPMENT STARTS GOING THERE.
SO THERE'S SOME VEHICLES THAT ARE TEN YEARS OLD TO, YOU KNOW, THE THE NEWER ONES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT HERE THAT NEED TO LOOK AT TO BE REPLACED ARE ABOUT I THINK THE YOUNGEST ONE IS A 2017.
BUT TO KIND OF ECHO WHAT CHRIS SAID OTHER THAN THE BUS AND THE NINE POLICE VEHICLES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO ADD, THE OTHER ONES ARE ALREADY VEHICLES THAT ARE LEASED, AND THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO BE SWAPPED FROM THE RAMS TO A VEHICLE THAT'S GOING TO SUIT THE NEED BETTER.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE MAKING TOO BIG OF SWINGS THERE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FOCUS ON THAT.
THIS IS WHAT YOU'VE SPENT LAST YEAR.
THIS IS BASED ON JUNE JUNE THROUGH JUNE.
ON THERE ON THE LEFT IS WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY SPENDING ON THE FLEET.
WHEN WE LOOK AT IT FROM AN AVERAGE AGE OF THE VEHICLES, YOU TYPICALLY REPLACE AROUND 11.
I KNOW LAST YEAR WE DID AROUND 29, BUT WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE AGE OF THE VEHICLES I MENTIONED THE POLICE VEHICLES, IT AVERAGES OUT TO LOOKING LIKE YOU REPLACE AROUND 11 OF THOSE VEHICLES. YOUR ANNUAL LEASE COST TODAY IS $535,049.
THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE IS 118 906 AND THEN THE ANNUAL FUEL COST.
LIKE I SAID, I WAS LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR LAST YEAR.
THIS IS TODAY IS AT 253 978, WHICH THE TOTAL CASH OUTLAY FOR THE CITY ANNUALLY IS $936,041.
WE MENTIONED THE 15 VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED.
THERE'S TEN ADDITIONALS WITH THE VAN AND THE NINE POLICE VEHICLES.
AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE IS RIGHT NOW, WE ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE AROUND $32,000 RETURNED.
I'M VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, TURNING IN NINE TAHOES.
I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME, WOULD BRING MORE THAN AROUND $2,000 A PIECE.
BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS PUSH THIS INTO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW.
SO I WAS VERY CONSERVATIVE THERE.
THAT DOWN PAYMENT IS HALF OF THE AFTER MARKET ON THE POLICE VEHICLES.
SO THE POLICE VEHICLES TYPICALLY GET AROUND 20 TO $25,000 IN AFTER MARKET LIGHTS, CAGES, COMPUTERS, CAMERAS, ALL THE STUFF YOU SEE ON THE VEHICLES THERE.
SO THE INITIAL SPEND, WE REQUIRE HALF OF THE AFTER MARKET DOWN.
AND THE REASON WHY IS IF YOU GET INTO A TO REPLACE THE VEHICLES EVERY FOUR YEARS, IF YOU FINANCE THAT AFTER MARKET, YOU MAY NOT BE IN A GOOD POSITION TO GET OUT OF IT BECAUSE THAT AFTER MARKET JUST HOLDS NO VALUE THERE.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE PUBLIC WORKS OR ANYTHING THAT RANGES FROM 9000 TO 12,000.
THESE ARE TYPICALLY DRIVEN 25 TO 40,000 MILES A YEAR.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING YOU IN A GOOD POSITION THERE.
AND SO WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS YOUR ANNUAL LEASE COST WOULD GO FROM 535 TO 735 WITH THE POLICE VEHICLES, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE DIESELS AND SWITCHING OUT OF SOME CURRENT LEASE VEHICLES, AS WELL AS ADDING LEASE PAYMENTS FOR THE BUS AND THE NINE POLICE VEHICLES WHERE YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO SEE AN IMPACT HERE.
[01:50:05]
DRIVEN, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE OVER 100,000 MILES ON THEM TODAY.SO THERE WILL BE A SAVINGS THERE.
FUEL, YOU KNOW, I EXPECT IT TO GO UP SLIGHTLY THERE.
I CAN'T REALLY PREPARE FOR THAT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, TO REPLACE VEHICLES, ADD THE THE POLICE VEHICLES AND THE BUS ON THERE.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRST YEAR, THIS YEAR IT WOULD SPEND 1.166, 1.1 $666,870.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO PRESENT TODAY.
YOU KNOW, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE CAN GET CREATIVE WITH.
WE HAVE THERE'S THE EXPLORERS, THE DURANGOS.
THEY NOW MAKE PURSUIT PACKAGE TRUCKS THAT PEOPLE ARE USING AS WELL.
WE CAN OCCASIONALLY GET OUR HANDS ON SOME TAHOES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PRICED WITH TAHOES IN HERE BECAUSE TAHOES TEND TO BE A LITTLE MORE AS WELL.
I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR THE ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENTS THAT YOU APPROVE THAT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT PLACING VEHICLES SUCH AS THE REC BUS OR ADDITIONAL POLICE CARS, WE CAN POSTPONE THAT FOR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND INCLUDE IT AS DECISION PACKAGE.
AND I BELIEVE THE POLICE VEHICLES ARE FOR CURRENT OFFICERS.
MEGAN, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE WRECKED BUS, MAYBE, AND TALK ABOUT USES AND IMPACT AND FUNDING OR NOT FUNDING? AND YES. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE SATURDAY DURING THE BUDGET MEETING, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT WERE IN THERE.
WE HAVE AN EXISTING BUS THAT'S IN OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT IS NOT UTILIZING, COULD BE UTILIZED IN OUR RECREATION DIVISION FOR NOT ONLY SENIOR PROGRAMING, BUT YOUTH SUMMER CAMP PROGRAMING TO HELP US INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS WE'RE ABLE TO SERVE, WHICH THEN ALSO IMPACTS THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IN. SENIOR PROGRAMING IS A 0% COST RECOVERY, BUT OUR SUMMER CAMPS IS NOT.
WE DO HAVE A COST RECOVERY MODEL IN PLACE, AND SO IF WE WERE TO GET NOT ONLY THE BUS, THE VAN THAT WAS MENTIONED ON THAT LIST, THAT WOULD HELP US TO MAXIMIZE THE NUMBER OF, AGAIN, PARTICIPANTS WERE ABLE TO SERVE AND INCREASE THAT REVENUE.
SO WE'LL INCLUDE THAT ON OUR COST RECOVERY MODEL TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THIS LEASE PAYMENT.
WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING CURRENTLY, I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
THE I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE VAN.
THE VAN THAT'S IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS NOT UTILIZED.
IT'S JUST SITTING AT THE SERVICE CENTER, BASICALLY.
OR ACTUALLY IT'S AT BATES PARK RIGHT NOW BEING A BLOCKADE.
WE HAVE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS WE HAVE REPLACED THE WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THE AC, THE BATTERY.
WE'VE HAD TO REPLACE DECKING IN THE BUS.
IT'S BEEN A CONSTANT REPAIR ISSUE FOR US.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE EXCHANGED.
BECAUSE WE ARE GROWING IN SENIOR PROGRAMING AND SUMMER CAMPS.
EXCUSE ME, 20 PERSON PARTICIPANT.
YOU'LL SEE SATURDAY THE BUDGET MEETING WE HAVE PROPOSED INCREASE THOSE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS WITH THE USE OF THE BUS UP TO 40.
SAME GOES FOR THE SUMMER CAMP.
SO AGAIN, THE MORE WE CAN UTILIZE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AND THESE TWO VEHICLES, THE MORE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THE PROGRAM PARTICIPATION ON IT.
I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW YOU THERE ON THE SENIORS.
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IN THE USE OF THE BUS.IS THERE ANY COST RECOVERY FOR THAT? THERE'S NOT CITY COUNCIL INCREASE USAGE AND NOT RECOVER COSTS.
AND SO, JUST FOR HISTORICAL SAKE, WHEN WE PRESENTED THE COST RECOVERY MODEL, CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME DID NOT WANT TO PUT ANY BURDEN ON ON SENIORS FOR THAT COST.
SO NO, IT IS IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE COST RECOVERY MODEL.
AND SOME CONTRIBUTION BECAUSE YOU KNOW MAINTENANCE MAINTAINING THE SAME LEVEL.
RAISING THE LEVEL AND LOSING MORE MONEY IS ANOTHER THING.
SO IN A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT VERY PRELIMINARILY ARE SOME MUNICIPALITIES ARE BEING MORE STRATEGIC WITH HOW THEY'RE BRINGING IN FUNDS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH IT MIGHT BE.
COUNTY GALVESTON, I THINK IT'S GALVESTON COUNTY PARKS DEPARTMENT.
HAVE YOU EVER TALKED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT A LEASE PROGRAM WITH THEM? A LEASE PROGRAM WITH THEM? WE IN THE PAST WE HAD UTILIZED A CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR BUSSING FOR SUMMER CAMPS SPECIFICALLY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ENGAGE THEM WITH REGARDING.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF IT MAY BE MORE.
YEAH, I'M USING FOR A COUPLE MONTHS OF THE SUMMER AS OPPOSED TO A WHOLE YEAR.
RIGHT. JUST SITTING AROUND NOT GETTING SURE.
AND WE'LL TRY TO GET YOU THAT INFORMATION BY SATURDAY.
AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING WE WERE GOING TO TOUCH ON.
SO THAT WAS ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
SORRY, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH SATURDAY.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU THE INFORMATION.
THANK YOU. I JUST NEEDED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
SO GOING BACK TO THE COST RECOVERY MODEL.
SO WE WILL BE BRINGING UP TO YOU ALL ON SATURDAY.
A LOT OF OUR PROJECTIONS AND REVENUE IS TIED TO THE ADOPTED COST RECOVERY MODEL THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED. IF YOU ALL WISH THAT MODEL TO BE REVISED, THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMS AND YOU'VE ALLUDED TO THIS BEFORE, I BELIEVE IN ABLC MEETINGS. WE WE HAVE SOME PROGRAMS THAT FALL WITHIN A TIER BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON SERVICE.
AND IF IT'S FOR THE GREATER COMMUNITY, GOOD.
SOME OF THOSE SERVICES ARE A LOT HIGHER AND MAYBE NEEDS TO BE RECONSIDERED.
SO AGAIN, THAT WAS BASED ON A 2019 PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLAN OBJECTIVE.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST POLICIES THAT WE ROLLED OUT.
AND THERE'S THINGS TOO, LIKE WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S INTERESTED IN GETTING CDL AND CDL IS, WHAT, 4000? IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE.
BUT COLLEEN IS WORKING ON A PROGRAM WITH LAKE JACKSON.
SO MAYBE WE WERE ALREADY IN IF WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS EMPLOYEE BE AVAILABLE FOR SENIOR TRIPS, THE COST FOR THE CDL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD BE AN ENABLER.
BUT AGAIN, WE GOT TO WE GOT TO PAY FOR THE COST AND SOME OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE WE MAY BE DURING BUDGET, TOUCH ON IT.
WE WANT TO COME BACK AND REANALYZE IT.
WE CAN COME BACK AT ANOTHER MEETING AND DIVE DEEPER INTO IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO INTO COST RECOVERY IN A BUDGET MEETING.
HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT PROBABLY A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM PROBABLY SHOULD BE THAT DISCUSSION.
SURE, I, I THINK THE ECONOMY HAS CHANGED IN CERTAIN RESPECTS AND THEN THAT'S A BETTER FEEDBACK.
Y'ALL CAN GIVE US SOME ACTUAL NUMBERS.
WHAT ARE WE REALLY USING IT FOR? AND IS IT A GOOD VALUE FOR THE CITY.
SURE, I GET THAT, BUT SOME THINGS CAN BE, I THINK, VALUED ON PAPER IN ANYWAY.
BUT NO, WE WILL NOT BE BROACHING THE SUBJECT OF POLICY CHANGE SATURDAY.
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OF NOT JUST TAKING IT OUT OF BUDGET, BUT HAVING IT GET REIMBURSED THROUGH PROGRAM VERSUS LEASE TO THE SCHOOL VERSUS WHATEVER. THAT MAY MAKE IT MORE A MARGINAL EXPENSE TO THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET IN THE ENTERPRISE PROGRAM.THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF A SUMMARY WITH THAT, TOO, BECAUSE, I MEAN, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO WAY I'D GO TO MY EMPLOYER AND TELL THEM I NEED A BUNCH OF STUFF, AND I CAN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, HEY, WE GOT SOME VEHICLES THAT ARE OLD.
I WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PRETTY GOOD EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THAT'S OCCURRING.
AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
I BELIEVE IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
WELL, WE'RE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE ON THAT LIST.
I MEAN, IF WE'VE GOT THE INFORMATION IN THERE AND THERE ARE SOME OF THEM THAT ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, I MEAN, YEAH, YOU GO TO THE VEHICLE LIST. SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO TALK ABOUT THE COMPACT PICKUP.
OKAY, SO THE COMPACT PICKUP TRUCK IS, YOU KNOW, AND THROUGH TALKING WITH SOME OF OUR STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, OUR UTILITY SUPERINTENDENT, HE DRIVES AROUND TOWN A LOT, CHECKING THE CHECKING THE JOBS, WORKING WITH THE GUYS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND SO THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE TAKE ON THE COMPACT TRUCK.
SO CURRENTLY HAS A WHAT NOW HE CURRENTLY HAS AN EXPEDITION RIGHT NOW.
AND SO IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST UNNECESSARY FOR WHAT WE HAVE ON THAT.
LEASE VEHICLE THROUGH ENTERPRISE.
THAT WILL BE TO PULL OUR SMALLEST EXCAVATOR THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE ONE ONE THREE QUARTER TON VEHICLE IN, IN IN OUR FLEET CURRENTLY. AND SAME THING WITH THE OTHER TWO REPLACEMENTS IS IT'S FOR OTHER THREE, TWO OTHER QUARTER THREE QUARTER TONS.
I'M SORRY. AND IT'S TO REPLACE THE SAME THING.
WHY IS THAT SO? BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST TOO SMALL TO PULL IT.
HOLD ON. WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE ONE THREE QUARTER TON.
MEANING TRADE ONE FOR ONE, RIGHT? NO NO, NO. WE ARE TRADING OUT ALL, ALL HALF TONS, 1500 TRUCKS.
THEY'RE ALL BEING TRADED FOR THREE QUARTER TONS.
YES. ARE BEING WE WANT TO UPGRADE THEM TO THESE.
YES. AND WE JUST WANTED ONE OF THEM TO BE DIESEL.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS I SEE ON THOSE VEHICLES.
NOT MEETING THE MILEAGE OR THE AGE ON THOSE VEHICLES YET? I DISCUSSED THAT.
I ASSUME Y'ALL ARE GOING TO TAKE THE OLDEST ONES IN THE FLEET AND SWAP THEM OUT.
YES. WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE WHICH ONES ARE IN THE BEST EQUITY POSITION.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT IS AGE OR MILEAGE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING VEHICLES, MAYBE PLAY A LITTLE MUSICAL TRUCKS.
TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE DO THAT SO THAT THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
AND THAT'S WHERE THERE ARE SOME VEHICLES THAT AREN'T ON THE ENTERPRISE LEASING SIDE THAT ARE OF AGE, THAT MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT REPLACING THOSE MOVING SOME 1500S THAT ARE LEASED TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, USING, SAY, THE TRUCKS WORTH $5,000, YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF 2007 TRUCKS.
AND MAYBE THOSE MAKE THE MOST SENSE JUST TO GET RID OF THEM.
SO THERE'S NOT MAINTENANCE HEADACHES.
GET THAT DEPARTMENT INTO A 1500 AND REPLACE THEM WITH THE 2500 THAT THAT HE NEEDS.
YEAH, I WOULD YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT CAR IS GOING TO FOCUS ON THE OLDER VEHICLES, MORE SO THAN LOOKING FOR EQUITY IN AN OLDER IN A NEWER ONE, BECAUSE THEN YOU PUT YOURSELF RIGHT BACK HERE NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER SAYING, HEY, I GOT TWO MORE VEHICLES THAT I NEED.
AND WE'RE SAYING, WELL, DIDN'T WE JUST REPLACE THOSE? THE OTHER THING IS, IS I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL, BUT I'VE NEVER REALLY HAD A WHOLE LOT OF LUCK WITH COMPACT TRUCKS.
I SEE THEM BEING PROBLEMATIC AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE, AND I'D RATHER BURN THE GAS, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
THE IN I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
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WHAT TO TO YOUR POINT, WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS THE COST OF COMPACT TRUCKS ALMOST GETS YOU TO THE COST OF A 1500, AND SO THAT MAY BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
AND I LOVE THE BECAUSE THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, MORE EFFICIENT.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS IF IF IT SAVES YOU 80 BUCKS A MONTH TO GET THE NISSAN THAT ONE DAY, MAYBE YOU NEED THE FULL SIZE TRUCK.
AND THESE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE.
WHAT CHRIS WAS SAYING EARLIER WHEN WE STARTED THE CONVERSATION.
STANDARDIZATION OF THE FLEET, I THINK, IS KIND OF THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO.
PLUS, IF YOU GET A MIDSIZE OR A COMPACT TRUCK, YOU'VE REALLY LIMITED YOURSELF TO THAT TRUCK.
AND PLUS, I DON'T REALLY SEE A HUGE FUEL ECONOMY DIFFERENCE IN THESE VEHICLES.
WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE EXPEDITION AND TO SWAP IT OUT FOR A PICKUP TRUCK.
SO WHATEVER WE DO, WHETHER IT'S DODGE, RAM, OR CHEVY OR WHATEVER THE FLEET IS THIS YEAR THAT WE END UP GETTING, THAT BECOMES JUST ANOTHER TRUCK WITHIN THAT, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT THE FLEXIBILITY OF YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER TRUCK OUT THERE THAT'S GOT THE CARGO CAPACITY OR SOMETHING.
I AGREE, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE GREAT POINTS.
WE'VE GOTTEN AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE WE'VE GONE TO ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT OURSELVES.
OH OKAY. SO NOW WE JUST DRIVE WHATEVER.
BUT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS THEY THEY DID AS WELL.
YEAH. AND AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
IF RAM'S BEEN A GREAT PRODUCT, WE CAN CONTINUE LOOKING AT THAT, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY DIG IN AND MAKE SURE A WE'RE PLAYING THE RIGHT GAME OF MUSICAL TRUCKS AND FINDING THE RIGHT MANUFACTURER FOR THIS.
YEAH. I THINK WE STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH CHEVY SILVERADO 1500S.
RIGHT. AND NOW WE WE HAVE WE'RE IN A FORTUNATE SPOT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THEM AND MAKE GOOD DECISIONS NOW BECAUSE NOTHING'S NOTHING'S BROKEN AND IT'S JUST MAKING KEEPING THE RIGHT RECOMMENDATIONS GOING.
THANK YOU, HECTOR, FOR TRYING TO FIT THE TRUCK TO THE KNEE.
I THINK THOSE IDEAS ARE GREAT.
MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS JUST THE OPPOSITE WAS TO ACTUALLY FIND SOME SMALL CAR.
IF A CAR MAKES SENSE, IF A CAR MAKES SENSE, LIKE IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BE THE THE FOREMAN AND YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE NOT EXPECTED TO TOW OR PULL ANY, WHY NOT FIND THE MOST FUEL EFFICIENT AUTOMOBILE AT THE RIGHT PRICE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF IF Y'ALL'S IDEA IF THEIR IDEA IS A BETTER IDEA, THAT'S FINE.
SO THAT'S A VALID POINT, TRAVIS.
OKAY. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S ALL OF THEM THAT WE'RE REPLACING.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE THREE LARGER VEHICLES ARE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE FOR THEY'RE GOING TO BE CREW TRUCKS FOR TOWING EXCAVATORS AND OTHER TRAILERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND CLARIFY STEVEN AND ACTING CHIEF THE SIX POLICE SUVS WERE REPLACING THREE OF THE ENTERPRISE.
THE THE SIX POLICE VEHICLES THAT WERE FLAGGED, I BELIEVE I DOUBLE CHECKED.
THOSE ARE ALL STILL OWNED BY THE CITY OF ANGLETON.
THOSE ARE THE BIG OFFENDERS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED ONE OF THEM'S DOWN THERE THERE.
BUT I'LL LET YOU SPEAK ON THAT.
WE'VE GOT AND THESE ARE JUST FROM 17 18.
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104,000 119,102, 108 919,000 156,000 120,000.AND THEY'RE GETTING AGE ON THEM.
BUT IT ALSO SHOWS SOME OF THOSE HAD TO STAY IN, IN, ON IN AS A POOL CAR.
SO THEY'RE OPERATED BY MULTIPLE OFFICERS AND THEY'RE RACKING THEM UP.
MINE'S AN 18. AND I GOT 41,000 MILES ON IT.
SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES, THEY'VE GOT THE LOWER MILES SAME YEAR MODEL.
ONE'S GOT 76, ANOTHER ONE HAD 95.
WELL, THAT ONE HAD 76 WAS WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO THE TAKE HOME PROGRAM A LOT SOONER EARLIER IN ITS LIFE, AND IT JUST DIDN'T RACK UP THE MILES THAT THE OTHER ONES DO.
BUT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE STILL OWN, THAT WE GOT A BUNCH THAT ARE RIGHT AT THAT.
SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, THREE THAT ARE CITY OWNED.
ALL SIX ARE CITY. SIX ARE CITY OWNED.
OKAY. YEAH. ALL THE ONES THAT I MENTIONED WERE CITY OWNED.
OKAY. THAT WE OWN THOSE, NOT FLEET MANAGEMENT.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? THEY'RE SO NINE. ARE WE JUST SAYING SIX? WE'RE WANTING THE NINE.
WELL, I JUST I WAS TRYING TO JUST CLARIFYING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO IN MY MIND UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ALL ARE.
OKAY. SO, SO AGAIN, THE THE ONE FOR ONES REALLY ARE VIRTUALLY NO CHANGE IN THE COST AMOUNT OR MARGINAL CHANGE.
WE'RE ADDING THE VEHICLES, LIKE THE BUS OR THE SUVS FOR PD OR ADDITIONAL EXPENSES AS, AS STEVEN TALKED ABOUT. SO MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENTS.
SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLUS THE STANDARD ROTATION OF VEHICLES THAT GO OUT IN THE PROGRAM.
IS THAT CORRECT? I SAID YES TO TO SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE THE ONES THAT ARE LEASED VEHICLES ARE THE MIDDLE LINE ITEMS. SO THE REPLACEMENT VAN, THE REPLACEMENT TO BE THE EXPEDITION IN THAT TO GO TO SOMETHING THEY CAN USE THERE.
BUT WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE THERE WILL BE SOME EQUITY THERE.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'LL BE A DRASTIC IMPACT IN WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PAYING NOW AND PLAYING A LITTLE MUSICAL TRUCKS, FINDING SOME OLDER ONES THAT MAY HAVE SOME EQUITY THAT WE CAN JUST MOVE OVER TO THAT.
SO YES, THIS WON'T MAKE A BIG IMPACT FOR THAT.
THE MIDDLE ONES I'M, I'M EXCLUDING THE BUS AND THE POLICE VEHICLES IN THAT STATEMENT.
WHAT VEHICLES ARE YOU ALL LOOKING AT FOR THE THREE QUARTER TONS.
I WOULD RECOMMEND PROBABLY RAM OR IT DEPENDS ON HOW FAST YOU NEED THEM.
HOWEVER THE RAMS ARE, THERE'S A LARGE INCENTIVE I'LL HAVE TO.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IN YEARS PAST IT'D BE LIKE, THIS IS OUR OPTION, I'D LIKE TO WHICH WE CAN DO WHICH IS NICE, IS SLOW DOWN AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST TRUCK AS FAR AS COST OF OWNERSHIP.
AND JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW.
I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE CHEVROLET DIESELS.
HEAR THE THE WHAT'S WHAT I AND THIS IS JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE WHAT HAPPENS.
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BUT THEY SPEND MORE TIME AT THE DEALERSHIP THAN THEY DO AT THE DRIVEWAY.THEY HAVE I SO IT PROBABLY BE BETWEEN IF YOU IF YOU HAD A PREFERENCE PICK IT UP.
I KNOW WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY STICK WITH.
IF IT'S A IF IT'S A GAS TRUCK, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH GO WITH A WITH ANY OF THE THREE.
BUT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE CHEVROLET ON THE, ON THE GAS, THREE QUARTER TONS.
OR A 7.3L, THREE QUARTER TON FORD.
BUT IN THIS CASE WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE THREE QUARTER TONS AND VANS.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENTS.
ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENTS, CURRENT ENTERPRISE FLEET VEHICLES.
WE CAN GET BACK TO THE OTHERS AFTER BUDGETING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 1 TO 1.
CAN WE MAKE SURE IT'S 12, NOT 15? ONE. TWO. THREE.
WELL, WE'RE NOT COUNTING THE BOTTOM LINE.
WE'RE NOT COUNTING THE ADDING THE THREE SUVS.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT THAT'S NOT THAT'S TECHNICALLY THAT'S NINE.
THEY'RE NOT OURS. YEAH THE SIX RR.
RIGHT. SO WE'RE JUST DOING THE ONES ABOVE IT.
OKAY. WELL, NOT THE BUS AND NOT THE BUS.
OKAY, SO IT'S JUST THE ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENTS.
IS THAT IN THE PLAN A THAT YOU SHOWED US WAS JUST ONE FOR ONE THAT INCLUDED THE POLICE VEHICLES.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT VEHICLES, TO LOOK AT THE OLDER ONES.
SO THAT'S A $30,000 RIGHT THERE.
WHICH WOULD LOWER IT. THE POLICE VEHICLES ARE RIGHT AT $1,400 A MONTH.
AND THEN PLUS THAT AFTER MARKET THAT UPFRONT CASH FOR THE AFTERMARKET ON THERE.
SO YES, YOU WOULD BE RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THERE.
DEPENDING ON THE EQUITY IT MAY DROP ON THOSE.
THOSE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE VEHICLES.
CHRIS, COULD YOU COULD YOU HELP ME OUT FOR JUST A SECOND WITH SOMETHING? HOW MANY HOW MANY VEHICLES DID YOU SAY? WHAT WERE THE THREE HIGHEST MILEAGE VEHICLES YOU HAD? OH, AND YOU SAID YOU HAD ONE THAT SIDELINED GOT GOT ONE OF OUR POOL UNITS. MATTER OF FACT, THAT USED TO BE ONE OF MY OLD UNITS 138,000 2017 104,000 2017 95,000 2017 119,000 2018 102,000 2018 108,100.
119,000. AND THESE ARE GOING UP EVERY DAY.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE SOME NOTES HERE.
17. IS THAT A 17? 130. THAT'S A 16.
16. AND WE HAVE 156 ON A 2018.
HOLD ON, HOLD ON. 156 ON AN 18.
THAT WAS THE ONE THAT PULLED THE.
BUT THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT 16.
I GOT IT AND I DROVE IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND WHEN I GOT IT, IT HAD LIKE 29,000 ON IT.
AND SINCE THEN IT'S ONLY BEEN WITH ONE PERSON.
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OR WITH ONE. IT'S NOT A POOL VEHICLES, NOT MULTIPLE OFFICERS RUNNING IT.THE REST OF THESE HAVE TO SPEND TIME AS A POOL UNIT.
SO WE HAVE IT'S RAN BY MULTIPLE OFFICERS.
AND THEN THERE WENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
WHERE WOULD YOU SAY I'M LOOKING AT.
I TRIED TO JOT DOWN THE THREE HIGHEST MILES TOTALS, AND THEY MAYBE THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE 2016 HAS 138, 2018 WITH 156 AND A 2019 WITH 120.
THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? AND I'M NOT SAYING THE WHEELS ARE FALLING OFF, BUT SOME OF THESE, I MEAN, FROM 17 TO 18, WE'RE GETTING IT'S NORMALLY THE AGE AND THEN WE START HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ALL THE WIRING.
THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT WE START FACING TOWARDS THE END.
AND THEN TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS UPPER TOP END MOTOR PROBLEMS, VERY RARELY LOWER END MOTOR PROBLEMS, BUT I MEAN, WHICH ONE OF THOSE DID YOU SAY WAS WAS A WAS OUT OF COMMISSION.
DID YOU SAY THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS OUT OF COMMISSION? YES. IT'S ON YOUR LIST OF, OF THOSE THOUGH, RIGHT.
AS WELL. HOW MANY 16 DO YOU HAVE BESIDES THE ONE WITH 138,000.
THREE. WHICH ONE'S ALREADY BEEN DECOMMISSIONED AND REASSIGNED? I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY EXACTLY WERE.
THERE. THAT ONE WENT, I THINK.
NOPE. THAT IS THE ONE SETTING OUT BACK.
I JUST I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS TRYING TO KEEP THEM ALL TOGETHER.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN IGNORE THE DEPARTMENT'S NEED ON THIS ONE.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO REUSE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT FROM THOSE VEHICLES IF WE WERE TO TRADE THEM FOR NEWER ONES, OR DO WE HAVE TO GO ALL NEW? YOU GOT TO REMOVE IT AND REINSTALL IT.
YOU'RE GOING TO BY BY THAT BY THAT TIME YOU'RE LOOKING AT AFTER YOU'VE GOT LIGHT BARS THAT'S BEEN IN THE IN THE WEATHER AND THE HEAT, WE TRIED TO GO AND DO SOME REBUILDING ON LIGHT BARS SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
BUT THEN YOU'RE TRYING TO REBUILD A SEVEN YEAR AND IT JUST DOESN'T IT.
I WISH WE COULD BUT ABOUT THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN REUSE.
I YANKED MY RADIO OUT OF THEM.
BY THE TIME WE PURCHASE IT, BY THE TIME WE GET RID OF THE VEHICLE, THAT COMPANY, I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY UPGRADES, WE'RE PUTTING AN ANTIQUATED NON-SUPPORTED PIECE OF UNFUNDED MANDATE BACK INTO THE UNITS.
IT I DON'T KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.
I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THREE, REPLACING THREE.
ARE YOU JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION ALREADY MADE.
THERE WAS? YES. SO ARE WE ARE.
THERE HASN'T BEEN A SECOND. IS THIS WILL AMENDMENT OR COMPLETED IT? I THINK I WAS AMENDED IN THE MIDDLE.
SO SO I'D LIKE TO TO MAKE A MOTION WITH REGARD TO THE ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT TO DO THE ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENTS. I WANT TO ADD THREE POLICE VEHICLES TO IT.
DO YOU SPECIFICALLY WANT TO ARTICULATE WHICH THREE ARE BEING REPLACED, OR IS THAT TO BE DISCRETIONARY FOR THE POLICE? I THINK I THINK THEY'RE I THINK THEY CARE ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT, AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE BETTER SUITED TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
WELL, AND THIS WHICH NO OFFENSE, BUT WHICH CHRIS.
OH, I WAS I WAS TALKING I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHITTAKER, BUT I'M LOOKING AT WHITTAKER.
I'M THE DOG. I FEEL THE I FEEL THAT THE DOG IS PROBABLY THE BEST ONE TO MAKE THE STATION.
UNLESS THE CITY MANAGER DISAGREES.
IF WE HAVE A DECOMMISSIONED ONE, UNLESS YOU'RE USING IT AS A PARTS SHOP, IT'S GOT TO GO.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE HAS 138, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE SECOND HIGHEST FIGURE.
AND SO HOW ABOUT WE COME BACK AND LET YOU KNOW ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU'VE APPROVED? FOR EXAMPLE, TANNER, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PICKUP INSTEAD OF THE WHATEVER, WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE DID AND WHAT BRAND AND ALL THAT
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KIND OF STUFF. SO WE HAVE A MOTION.I'LL MAKE SURE MY MOTION IS CLEAR.
DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.
OKAY. FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YES, SIR. OKAY.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN.
A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR OUR CALL FOR A VOTE? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AGREE BY SAYING I.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT.
[15. Discussion and possible action on subdivision emergency access gates within the Greystone and Rosewood III Subdivisions. (Part 1 of 2)]
THANK YOU STEPHEN. APPRECIATE IT.THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND I GUESS BEFORE WE MOVE ON, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT AN UPDATE ON THAT? GIVE ME A COUPLE OF WEEKS SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT HE CAN ORDER AND COST.
HOW ABOUT THE 2ND AUGUST MEETING? ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT.
SOUNDS GOOD. YOU GET THAT, STEPHEN? SECOND. WHAT'S THE DATE OF THAT? THE 2ND AUGUST MEETING. 25TH OR SOMETHING? OKAY, I DON'T THINK THAT'LL.
TWO DAYS. YES, THAT WILL WORK.
I'LL PUT THAT ON MY CALENDAR RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. SO THIS WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM DURING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP, AND WE WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD FOR INFORMATION AND DECISIONS.
AS CITY MANAGER CHRIS WHITTAKER HAS NOTED.
ITEM 15. I WAS ASKED TO BRING YOU AN UPDATE.
THIS IS GREYSTONE SUBDIVISION.
GREYSTONE LANE ACTUALLY CONNECTS WITH REMINGTON HAVING AN EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE.
SO WE DO PROVIDE YOU WITH MONTHLY REPORTS ON OCCUPANCIES ON ALL OF THE SUBDIVISIONS.
SO WE DO HAVE A TRACKING MECHANISM WHERE WE CAN INITIATE WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU GIVE US TODAY ON THE GRAYSTONE SITUATION, WHICH WOULD OPEN THAT ACCESS GATE ONCE WE REACH THAT PARTICULAR THRESHOLD.
AS YOU SEE ON THE CIRCLED INTERSECTION THERE AT REMINGTON.
REGARDING ROSEWOOD, AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS CHANGED TO A PD PLAN, DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN WHICH SOME DISCUSSION WAS HAD EXITING OFF OF EAST HENDERSON, POSSIBLY GOING THROUGH THAT SUBDIVISION AS A SHORTCUT.
SO NOW THAT TIME IS IN, CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED AND IMPROVEMENTS ARE ON THE HORIZON FOR HENDERSON, IT MAY BE TIME TO TAKE ACTION ON OPENING THAT PARTICULAR GATE.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL THIS EVENING BASED ON THE INFORMATION THERE.
EMERGENCY GATES TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORT IN AND OUT OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS.
THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE FROM STAFF.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PUBLIC WORKS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL FOLLOW UP ON WHATEVER ACTION, IF SO, IS TAKEN TONIGHT.
WELL, I HAVE A COUPLE THOUGHTS.
I'M ACTUALLY OKAY WITH GREYSTONE STILL HAVING THE CONDITION OF 50% MAINLY IN LIES.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH PINEY WAY AND DEVELOPERS, BUILDERS CUTTING THROUGH AND ACCESSING GREYSTONE, I GUESS, AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THROUGH PINEY WAY.
I THINK IT'S OKAY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GREYSTONE TO EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE HEAVY TRUCKS PASSING THROUGH THERE AS THEY CARRY RAFTERS THAT ARE PRE-BUILT OR WHATEVER ELSE THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION AND WOOD.
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SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT.I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THE PEOPLE OF REMINGTON JUST YET.
YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS ON HENDERSON ROAD WE MAY NEED TO HAVE THAT OPEN PERIOD.
ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS SOME CONSTRUCTION AT THAT INTERSECTION OF HENDERSON AND DOWNING.
IT MAY JUST HAVE TO BECOME A BYPASS.
I KNOW THE PEOPLE, AND I UNDERSTAND NOT WANTING PEOPLE TO USE IT AS A CUT THROUGH, BUT EVENTUALLY IT MAY JUST HAVE TO TEMPORARILY BECOME ONE IF YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THAT INTERSECTION TO DO CONSTRUCTION.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR BREAKING GROUND ON HENDERSON, BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO CONTEMPLATE LATER, I THINK. AND JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING.
AND THIS IS A PERSONAL OPINION, I'M FOR CONNECTIVITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY TO HAVE OPTIONS.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE BUSY.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE OF THE CITY AND NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS.
AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO LIVE ON A VERY BUSY STREET, SO I GET IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES FOR, YOU KNOW, AVOIDING CLOGGED INTERSECTIONS IS ALSO GOOD, TOO.
WELL, FOR FOR ME, THE STREETS BELONG TO EVERYBODY.
STILL RINGS QUITE LOUDLY TO ME.
WE LIKE TO LIMIT INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM FROM THOSE AREAS TO AS FEW ROADS AND AVENUES AS WE COULD TO MINIMIZE VANDALISM AND THEFT.
IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE CAUGHT RED HANDED AND AND SAY, GREYSTONE TRYING TO RUN OFF WITH MATERIAL AND THAT HAPPENS IF YOU CAN ONLY GET OUT THE SAME WAY YOU CAME IN, GOOD LUCK.
SO I ALSO LIKE THE OPTION OF GOING THROUGH REMINGTON ON GRAY.
SO LET'S SAY YOU HAD A WRECK COMING OUT OF GREYSTONE.
AT LEAST YOU HAVE ANOTHER ACCESS THAT YOU GOT YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL ON TIME.
SO I DO LIKE TO HAVING THE ACCESS BACK THAT WAY.
I AGREE WITH THE 50% OF THE HOMES AS FAR AS ROSEWOOD.
YEAH. IT'S THAT INTERSECTION IS AWFUL.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO ADDRESS.
IT'S TO I CECIL CLEAN UP A TASK FORCE.
I MEAN, AND I DON'T WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 18 LATER ON.
SO I MEAN YOU KNOW AND I DON'T THINK PUTTING SIGNS UP, NO.
NO. SO YOU'VE JUST BEEN FIGHTING TRAFFIC? YEAH. WELL, TO ME, ROSEWOOD THREE HAS WHAT PINEY WOODS WANTS, SO? SO IT DOES. SO SO SO HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT? BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME WHY THEY CAN'T HAVE IT.
OH, FAIR. I MEAN, NO, IT WAS I, I MEAN, I CAN THANK YOU, TANNER.
I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW.
NO, I YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEONE ELSE.
NO, I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE UNIFORMITY.
THAT IS A THAT WE NEED ACCESS POINTS OFF OF 288.
I MEAN THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.
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IT HAS TO DO WITH OCCUPANCY.AND YEAH, I'M SORRY YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE.
MY POINT IS, THERE'S AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
YES, SIR. WE NEED TO ADHERE TO THE AGREEMENT.
I WOULD AGREE, AND THEN AS SOON AS IT'S MET, I SAY, OPEN THAT GATE UP.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE ROSEWOOD STREET OPENED UP TOO.
BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME EDUCATION.
THERE ARE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE OVER THERE.
USED TO NOT HAVE ANYBODY COMING THROUGH THERE.
THAT'S TRUE. THEY LOOK, IF A CAR IS COMING THIS WAY.
NEXT THING, THIS CAR COMES THE OTHER WAY BACKING OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY.
BUT WE WOULD COMMUNICATE IT, AND I DON'T SEE A WHOLE DROVE OF PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH THERE.
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WANT TO SKIRT THAT INTERSECTION WHEN IT STARTS BACKING UP.
SINKS. WELL, ADD SOME COUNCIL MEMBER, ROBERTS NOTED.
WE WANT TO PROMOTE THE ACCESS.
AND DEFINITELY BECAUSE OF THE FIRE.
I'M SORRY, THE FIRE CODES AND THE CODES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
BUT THOSE THINGS ARE WRITTEN IN THE CODE FOR THAT REASON.
I MEAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I WAS ON COUNCIL OR ON PNC WHEN THIS ISSUE CAME UP ORIGINALLY.
BUT LIKE MISS WINANS ON ON THE WAY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD CONCERNED CITIZENS COME BEFORE US.
HE SPOKE THEIR MINDS AND THEIR HEART.
AND SO IT'S ALWAYS HARD WHEN YOU'RE SITTING UP HERE TO TELL PEOPLE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU DO HAVE THOSE OTHER QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ANSWER AND TRY TO KEEP IT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, NOT SET DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR DIFFERENT GROUPS.
WELL, I THINK ROME WASN'T BUILT OVERNIGHT.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC ISSUES LONG TERM WITH THESE THESE SITES.
I KNOW WHAT ROAD WAS GOING TO TURN INTO WHEN IT BECOMES UNSAFE TO HAVE TWO WAY TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, I THOUGHT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO, IF THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THERE'S NO CAN MAYBE GO INTO YOUR.
WHENEVER HENDERSON'S DEVELOP THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME LANES OF INGRESS OR EGRESS OFF OF ROSEWOOD ONTO HENDERSON AND BE LIKE A DESIGNATED TURN LANE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST INTO THAT SUBDIVISION TO KEEP TRAFFIC.
IF WE HAD TO MAKE MOST SENSE TO RUN, RUN THAT AT LEAST THAT ROAD ONE WAY TOWARDS HENDERSON, BECAUSE THAT THAT WAY PEOPLE WOULD NOT CROSS TRAFFIC, THEY WOULD HAVE TO TURN IN THERE FROM DOWNING AND THEN TURN OUT OF THERE TOWARDS DOWNING ON HENDERSON.
I MEAN, UNLESS THERE'S NO TRAFFIC, IN WHICH CASE IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
IT'S PROBABLY TRUE BECAUSE ALL YOUR BACKUP IS ON HENDERSON FOR THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
AND AND IN TIME, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT.
IT COULD TURN INTO A DESIGNATED THREE WAY STOP OR OR LIGHT FOR JUST SAFETY PURPOSES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROHIBITION ON THAT.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY.
AND IT'S IT'S AN ISSUE THAT PROBABLY BITING OFF MORE THAN WE REALLY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
BUT. SO WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT ROSEWOOD? SEEMS TO BE PRETTY.
I DON'T I HAVEN'T HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER DANIEL ABOUT GREYSTONE, GRAYSTONE, BUT I AGREE WITH VOLIN WITH GREYSTONE'S ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WITH THEM.
I REALLY DON'T WANT ANY CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS EXITING ON THE REMINGTON, TEARING IT UP.
I HOPE THAT DOESN'T OCCUR ONCE WE TAKE THE GATE AWAY.
AND THERE'S STILL HALF THE SUBDIVISION TO BE BUILT.
MY GO TO TO CONTACT THEM TO GET THEM TO GO OTHER PATHWAYS WITH PINEY WAY AND SUCH.
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WELL, AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY NOT TRYING TO GET A CHANGE OR DECISION ON GREYSTONE.BUT WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE SCIENCE AND THE AND THE FACTS.
SO REALLY IT'S THE KIND OF THE ROSEWOOD ISSUE THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY BEST.
I DON'T SEE THERE BEING ANY POSITIVE.
OKAY, I KNOW I HAVE ISSUES WITH BEING HERE, BUT CAN'T PUT A GATE HERE AND I LIVED ON ROSEWOOD AND I WAS I WAS THERE BEFORE THE LAST SECTION WAS BUILT.
AND PEOPLE WOULD BUST THROUGH THAT GATE AND WE WOULD SIT, PATCH UP.
BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD CUT THROUGH AND DRIVE LIKE CRAZY.
THEY MET A LOT OF RESISTANCE AT FIRST, AND THERE'S PROBABLY STILL SOME OLD YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO'VE ENJOYED LIVING IN ANGLETON FOR A LONG TIME WHO PROBABLY STILL DISAGREE WITH THEM. THEY PROBABLY ALSO SERVED THEIR PURPOSE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ULTIMATELY GOT ACCUSTOMED TO IT.
I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE TRUE OF ROSEWOOD.
PROBABLY SOME HEARTACHE AND TROUBLES TO BEGIN.
EVENTUALLY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE NEW TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.
SO IS THERE ANY ACTION FROM COUNCIL ON ROSEWOOD THREE? I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHEN I LIVED THERE AND NOW IS THAT IT WAS JUST ALL OPEN.
SO ONE OF THE I WANT TO GO TRAVERSING OVER PREVIOUSLY TROD GROUND, BUT ONE OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT WHEN ROSEWOOD THREE CAME IN.
AND I KNOW PIERS COUNCIL MEMBER DANIEL IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS SECTION THREE WAS BASICALLY 45 FOOT LOTS, AND THAT WAS A LOT OF THE CONSTERNATION. BECAUSE THE REMAINDER OF THE SUBDIVISION, I THINK, HAD BEEN 60 FOOT LOTS PREVIOUSLY.
SO YOU HAD NOT JUST A AN ACCESS POINT.
SO I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE CONCERNS THAT EXPRESSED BY.
YES, I HAVE A TECHNICAL QUESTION.
SO I MEAN THIS WOULD PASS, BUT ARE WE REMOVING THE GATE.
THE GATE WOULD BE REMOVED IN THE ROSEWOOD SITUATION, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ORGANIZED HOA.
WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE OWNERSHIP OF ALL OF THE LOTS.
WHOSE GATE IS THAT? IS IT CITY OWNER? IS IT OWNED BY THE HOA? IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CITY OWNED.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN BY THE DEVELOPER AT THE TIME.
BUT. IF WE CUT THAT LOCK OFF, I MEAN, I KNOW ME.
I'D BE BACK OVER THERE WITH ANOTHER LOCK THE NEXT DAY AND THEN HAVE MY KEY TO ATTACH TO IT.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO TAKE FURTHER EXPLORATION ON THAT ISSUE.
THERE'S, THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S NO AGREEMENT, THERE'S NO WRITTEN CONDITION.
IT'S JUST I HAVE THE I HAVE THE SURVEY ATTACHED THAT SHOWS THE EASEMENT.
NOT MUCH INFORMATION ON THAT GATE, PER SE.
BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, I'M SURE.
AND DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THAT?
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IT'S PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.SO YOU CAN DRIVE AT THIS POINT.
SO THERE'S NO HISTORY OF THE CITY EVER MAINTAINING THAT GATE OR PUTTING A LOCK ON THE GATE.
THE CITY'S NEVER TOUCHED THE GATE.
I'M NOT AWARE. TYPICALLY, THERE'S THERE'S A KNOX BOX SITUATION TYPICALLY ON THOSE SORT OF GATES AND IT'S BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROBABLY THAT THEY WOULD GET GET ACCESS OR GAIN ACCESS WHEN NEEDED.
I WOULD SINCERELY CONSIDER IF SUCH A CHANGE WERE PROPOSED AND I CAN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES PROPOSING, BUT IF THERE WERE, I WOULD SET LIKE A JANUARY 1ST, 2025 TO GIVE NOTICE AND TIME FOR CHANGES TO BE BASICALLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE BE AWARE THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, AN EASY NUMBER BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, START THE DAY, START THE YEAR FRESH.
I WOULD AGREE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE.
MAYBE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PROPERTY MAY WANT THAT ACCESS.
I MEAN I CAN I CAN CERTAINLY SEE PEOPLE WANTING ACCESS.
I WOULD I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IF I CAN MAKE A LEFT OUT ON THE HENDERSON AS OPPOSED.
BUT IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD AVOID THE CORNER OF HENDERSON AND AND DOWNING.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS YOU DO IT SOONER THAN THAT.
YOU THINK SO? BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOBBY AGAINST IT.
I MEAN, SINCE WE PUT IT OUT, I GUARANTEE IT'LL BE THE OPPOSITE OF ANYWAY.
LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO KEEP OUR GATE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
I MEAN, SURE, I'M JUST TRYING TO CHECK MY FACE AND PICK, LIKE, 1ST SEPTEMBER OR SOMETHING, AND THAT'LL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO PUT IT OUT THERE AND DEAL WITH IT IN THE PUBLIC IF IT BECOMES A, YOU KNOW, CITY ISSUE OR SOMETHING.
BUT MAYBE I JUST TOTALLY MISSED THIS, BUT WHO OR WHAT ENTITY REQUESTED THAT THAT GATE BE OPENED.
AND MY APOLOGIES, THAT PREDATED ME.
THE ONLY CONVERSATION THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND IN THE MINUTES WOULD BE THE PD PLAN DISTRICT DISCUSSIONS WHEN THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING HELD AND THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION, I THINK, THAT CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO CUT THROUGH.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN THE INITIAL CONVERSATION BEGAN.
AND AS A PART OF THAT PLAT, I THINK THAT'S HOW IT GOT SHOWN ON THE PLAT TODAY.
I BROUGHT IT IS ASKED WHO HAS ASKED THAT THAT GATE BE REMOVED TO AND CHANGE THINGS UP, I BROUGHT IT, I BROUGHT IT FORWARD BECAUSE WE I BELIEVE DURING THE PINEY WAY DISCUSSION AND I THINK I HEARD IT DURING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION THAT WE.
HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DEVELOPMENT GATES AND ALL THAT? AND SO OUR INTENT WAS JUST TO SCRATCH THE ITCH AND BRING IT FORWARD, LIKE WE DISCOVERED WITH GREAT OR IDENTIFY WITH GRAYSTONE.
IT'S PART OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'LL GET DONE.
WHETHER YOU ALL DO SOMETHING WITH IT OR NOT.
WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT FORWARD.
WELL, AND I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER COMPONENT TO IT TOO.
AND YOU MENTIONED PINEY WAS WHEN WE WERE SAYING THAT WE COULDN'T CLOSE PINEY WAY.
THEY BROUGHT UP THESE GATES AS, AS EXAMPLES AND SAID, WELL, WHY NOT? BECAUSE HERE'S TWO PRIME EXAMPLES THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN.
COUNCIL WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL? BARBARA SIMMONS NEXT UPON THE WAY, WEINER CAN SEE THE MAP FOR THE HENDERSON AND DOWNING.
SO HOW FAR IS THE ROSEWOOD ON HENDERSON? HOW FAR? NO, NOT GREYSTONE.
LIKE WHAT IMPACT? IF YOU OPENED UP THE GATE IN 20 MINUTES FROM NOW, WHAT IMPACT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE WITH SCHOOL TRAFFIC IF YOU DON'T ALERT THE SCHOOL AHEAD OF TIME? HEY, WE'RE OPENING THIS UP.
IS IT? HOW FAR IS IT FROM DOWNING ON HENDERSON? 4400, 500FT.
I WAS GOING TO SAY ABOUT 200 YARDS.
IS IT JUST NOW A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE? CAN YOU.
I MEAN, WOULD THE CITY BE OPEN TO JUST CLOSING IT? WHY IS THERE A GATE THERE AT ALL? WHY ISN'T IT JUST A WHY ISN'T IT JUST A DEAD END AS EMERGENCY ACCESS?
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BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, I THINK HE EXPLAINED IT EARLIER.OTIS EXPLAINED THAT AS PART OF OUR CITY FIRE CODES, ONCE YOU HAVE, I THINK OVER 50 LOTS. WHATEVER IT IS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR SAFETY, AND THERE'S NOT ONE.
IT'S ALL JUST IN THERE OFF OF DOWNING.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOT A DEAD END.
THAT'S IT DOESN'T CONNECT ONTO ANY OF THOSE OTHER OLDER STREETS.
YEAH, BUT I WOULD THINK THE CITY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF YOU'RE ABOUT TO OPEN THAT UP, SINCE THEY ALREADY HAD AN ISSUE THERE WITH DOWNING IN HENDERSON AND DURING SCHOOL TRAFFIC TIMES.
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE THAT'S THEY'VE MANS IT WITH A CROSSING GUARD AT ALL TIMES.
BASICALLY ALL BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL.
SO ARE YOU NOW GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT, TURNING LEFT AND RIGHT, PEOPLE TURNING IN ON THAT WHERE THERE WAS IS IT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE AVOIDING THE DOWNING AND HENDERSON INTERSECTION AND TAKING A RIDE INTO THAT STREET? YEAH. TO GET AROUND IT IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
YEAH. IT'D BE HARD TO GET OUT CRAZY IF THERE'S A CRASH, CRASH, CRASH.
IT'D BE HARD TO GET OUT OF THE TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, TURN SOUTH AND YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD IF I WERE IN THAT SUBJECT.
TAKE A RIDE. YEAH. DROPPING MY KID OFF OF AT JUNIOR HIGH.
I'M PROBABLY TAKING A LEFT INTO ROSEWOOD DROPPING MY KID OFF RIGHT THERE AS I BEFORE I JUMP.
SHE CAN JUMP OUT, WALK THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
I'LL MAKE A LEFT, AND I AVOID THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION.
YEAH, I MEAN, PEOPLE DO THAT NOW AT THE GAS STATION.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S 1000FT IS BETTER THAN THAN.
WELL, I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THE WALK BACK.
SO IT MAKES IT MORE ADVANTAGEOUS.
BUT THERE'S OTHER ONES I WOULD.
I'M NOT. I DID WORRY ABOUT EVERYBODY'S PARENTS PARKING ON ROADS.
BUT LIKE WE DO PARK AT THE GAS STATION.
WELL, BUT I WOULDN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO AVOID THE INTERSECTION LIKE ROSEWOOD.
IF YOU ARE HEADING TOWARDS DOWNING ON HENDERSON, YOU CAN TAKE A RIGHT IMMEDIATELY.
YEAH. IF CLOVER HAD AN EXIT TO TO HENDERSON, IT WOULD BE AT THE INDUSTRY.
YOU WOULD PROBABLY SEE PEOPLE PARKING THERE.
ANY ACTION? I THINK WE NEED TO PURSUE THE SEPTEMBER TIME FRAME FOR ANNOUNCEMENT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
WAS THAT A MOTION? EMOTION? YOU KNOW WHAT? IT ABSOLUTELY WAS A MOTION.
THE MOTION IS JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR TO OPEN UP THE GATES ON A SEPTEMBER TIME FRAME FOR.
SO AFTER THE SCHOOL YEAR, PUBLIC NOTIFICATION TO THE AREA AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SO MS SO THAT WE GIVE AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND ADDRESS THE SITUATION.
PEOPLE ON ROSEWOOD LANE CAN STORM THE CITY COUNCIL LIKE THEY WILL OTHER STREETS HAVE.
AND I THINK THE ONLY I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM IS WE DON'T WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONE WAY, BUT THAT ONE ROAD RIGHT THERE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE.
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I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE I THINK WE NEED TO GO STEP BY STEP.AND THIS FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO DECIDE TO OPEN IT.
AND IF YOU WANT TO SAY A TYPE LINE, THAT'S GREAT AS FAR AS CHANGING DIRECTION OR SIGNALING A DIFFERENT DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC, I THINK WOULD BE A DISCUSSION WITH CHIEF IN CHIEF TO HAVE OR EVEN ANGLETON ISD IF YOU WANT TO INVITE SO, SO IF THE MOTION IS APPROVED, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND TO OR ASK THE STAFF TO REMOVE THE GATE.
SO IF YOU FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE SAID 1ST SEPTEMBER, IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN, RIGHT? WE WILL NOTIFY EVERYONE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN.
I THINK THAT'S AND THEN COME 1ST SEPTEMBER WHEN WE OPEN IT, I, I MY GUIDANCE TO STAFF IS REMOVE THE GATE SO THAT WE DON'T GET SOMEONE DECIDING WE'RE TAKING THAT OPTION OFF THE TABLE, THAT THIS IS OPEN AS A PUBLIC RETREAT NOW NOT NOT AN OPTION TO CLOSE IT AGAIN OR SOMETHING.
YOU BELIEVE? YES. YOU CAN LEAVE THE GATE POST THERE, BUT YOU TAKE THE GATE OFF THE ENGINE.
YES, SIR. JUST SO YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER 1ST IS A SUNDAY.
I'M JUST PUTTING OUT THERE. YOU COULD SAY SEPTEMBER 2ND.
I'M JUST PROVIDING INFORMATION I DON'T.
Y'ALL DO WHATEVER YOU DO, BUT I THINK A MONTH AND A HALF IS SUFFICIENT TIME TO NOTIFY EVERYONE AND SHOULD THEY WANT TO COME IN AND PRESENT A COUNTERARGUMENT TO THEIR CHEER FOR THE IDEA.
WHICH I CAN'T GO ON WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER, BUT I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
DIFFERENT ISSUE. SORRY, A MOTION DO WE DO? WE HAVE A MOTION BECAUSE I DON'T I HAVEN'T HEARD A VERY CLEAR ONE.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO I GUESS POST A POST A NOTE. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE NOTICE FOR THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING.
WELL WE'RE JUST GOING TO REMOVE THE I WOULD SAY REMOVE THE GATE BY A SPECIFIC DATE.
WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE STAFF.
WE WILL NOTIFY ALL THE RESIDENTS, NOTIFY THE SCHOOL, THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL REALLY WE SHOULD BE REQUIRED BUT SOUNDS GOOD.
I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE GATE BY SEPTEMBER 3RD.
AND AND NOTIFY SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS AS AS NEEDED.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN.
YEAH. AND FOR CLARITY, THAT'S FOR ROSEWOOD.
RIGHT? FOR ROSEWOOD. ROSEWOOD.
HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL FOR A VOTE THAT NEEDS TO BE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLACED AT THAT INTERSECTION, A A STOP SIGN FOR PEOPLE EXITING NORTH OFF OF ROSEWOOD LANE.
OKAY, WELL, WE CAN DEFER TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE.
DOESN'T THAT IF I'M CORRECT, THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAS THE AUTHORITY IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS? THAT'S CORRECT. CORRECT. SUPPORTED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
AND MAYBE A DIFFERENT ISSUE TO DISCUSS.
OKAY. WE HAVE A CITIZEN WITH A QUESTION ABOUT STREET LIGHTING.
I THINK THAT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION.
THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
YEAH. WE'RE NOT THAT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA.
BUT DEFINITELY BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN ASK ABOUT THE STOP SIGNS.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BOOTH.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL FOR A VOTE? OKAY. NOT HEARING ANY.
I. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OKAY.
MOTION CARRIES. SO LET ME KNOW WHEN THE COMMITTEE.
OKAY. AND REMIND US AGAIN WHEN THE GATES IS GOING TO BE OPENED.
AND THEN I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, NO ACTION ON THE OTHER.
RIGHT. WE WILL FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO ONCE ONCE THE THRESHOLD IS MET IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, JUST NOTIFY US AND DO THE SAME.
NOTIFICATION TO THE GREYSTONE AND REMINGTON RESIDENTS.
[16. Discussion and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20240723-016 designating certain officials as being responsible for, acting for, and on behalf of the City in dealing with the Department of Transportation, for the purpose of participating in the Safe Streets for All grant program; certifying that the City is eligible to receive program assistance; authorizing the City Mayor, or designee, to act as the City’s Executive officer and authorized representative in all matters pertaining to the city’s participation in the Safe Streets for All grant program, certifying that the cost share required is readily available at this time; and agreeing to abide by the grant terms and conditions.]
DESIGNATING CERTAIN OFFICIALS AS BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR, ACTING FOR, AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY IN DEALING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF PARTICIPATING IN THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT PROGRAM CERTIFYING THAT THE CITY IS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE PROGRAM ASSISTANCE.AUTHORIZING THE CITY MAYOR OR DESIGNEE TO ACT AS THE CITY'S EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE, AND ALL MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT PROGRAM CERTIFYING THAT THE COST SHARE REQUIRED IS READILY AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME, AND AGREEING TO ABIDE BY THE GRANT TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
YES. SO I AM PRESENTING AN ADDITIONAL RESOLUTION REGARDING A GRANT OPPORTUNITY.
BACK AT THE END OF APRIL, HECTOR AND I ATTENDED A SAFE STREETS FOR ALL WORKSHOP WHERE WE LEARNED THAT THERE IS FEDERAL FUNDING FOR PLANS, DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS AND ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS PROJECTS RELATED TO MOBILITY.
AND SO, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A GRANT, AN APPLICATION APPLICATION TO THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION UNDER THEIR SAFE STREETS FOR ALL PROGRAM.
SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO PROVIDE THE MATCHING PORTION.
IT IS AN 80 OVER 20 WE DO HAVE HECTOR HAS PROVIDED SOME FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF 35,000 TO MEET THAT MATCHING OUT OF THE 2018 STREET BOND.
SO WE DO HAVE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO PURSUE THIS GRANT.
THE GRANT DEADLINE IS AUGUST 29TH AND WOULD BE AWARDED.
WE'D BE NOTIFIED IF WE ARE AWARDED.
AND SO THIS WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY TO GET A MASTER PLAN MOBILITY IN PLACE.
IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, LAST YEAR, IN ADDITION TO THE TECH TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES GRANT FOR DOWNTOWN PROJECT, WE ALSO SUBMITTED TWO OTHERS, WHICH WERE THE PATHWAY ON FRONT STREET, AS WELL AS A PLANNING DOCUMENT FOR A MOBILITY PLAN.
WE WERE NOT AWARDED EITHER OF THOSE.
WE ONLY RECEIVED THE DOWNTOWN TO GRANT.
AND SO THIS IS YET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, JUST AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO PURSUE A MASTER MOBILITY PLAN.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC.
SO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, BUT OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO WHETHER THAT'S CYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS, IT'S COMPREHENSIVE.
SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TO PURSUE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE WE'D HAVE THE PLAN IN PLACE.
SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.
IS IS OBTAINING THIS GRANT IN THIS.
THAT WOULD, I GUESS, SET US IN A BETTER POSITION TO GET MORE GRANTS.
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, IS TO ABSOLUTELY GRANT SO YOU CAN GET MORE GRANTS.
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SO IF WE FOUND THAT WE HAD SOME MAJOR SAFETY ISSUES AND CONCERNS REGARDING A STREET OR SIDEWALK OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEN ONCE WE HAVE THOSE, THE MASTER PLAN IN PLACE, THIS MASTER MOBILITY PLAN, WE CAN SAY IN THIS PLANNING DOCUMENT WE IDENTIFIED X WAS A PROBLEM.AND SO IN THE FUTURE YEAR, WE WOULD APPLY FOR THAT GRANT TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.
WE'VE NOT HAD FUNDING ALLOCATED FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
JUST. MY COMMENT IS THAT NECESSARILY ABOUT THIS APPLICATION, I UNDERSTAND IT, IT SEEMS THE PROCESS ABOUT WHICH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS YOU DO THIS.
IT'S LIKE. BUREAUCRACY AT ITS FINEST.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU GO SECURE A GRANT AND YOU WILL PAY CERTAIN PEOPLE.
PEOPLE WOULD LIKE YOU TO PAY SO THEY CAN LINE THEIR POCKETS.
AND THEN MAYBE WE'LL GET AROUND TO LET YOU HAVE SOME OTHER GRANTS AT A LATER TIME.
I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST IT'S NOT YOU.
KIND OF. BUT WHAT WE HEAR THOUGH IS THEY DON'T LIKE I COME UP AND SAY, I WANT $2 MILLION, AND YOU SAY, WELL, WHAT FOR? BASED ON WHAT INFORMATION AND DATA POINTS, THEY WANT US TO DO SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, DUE DILIGENCE SOMETHING.
SO WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN.
THAT'S ALL. I'M NOT I'M NOT DISAGREEING.
I'M JUST SAYING IT SEEMS. YEAH. THEY WANT TO SEE YOU SPEND MONEY SO THEY CAN GET MORE MONEY.
ALL RIGHT. JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE.
EXACTLY. SOUND LIKE DEBBIE DOWNER OVER HERE? BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN.
I HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED WITH A GRANT FROM ANY LEVEL OF.
IT DOESN'T HAVE HOOKS IN IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO END UP.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT HANDCUFFS GOING TO BE, BUT THEY COME WITH HOOKS.
YEAH. WE HAVE TO DEVELOP THE ADA STANDARDS OR WE HAVE TO.
YOU GOT TO DO SOME DRAINAGE STUFF BECAUSE OF WHATEVER.
I MEAN, YOU'LL BE YOU'LL BE KISSING THEIR RING FROM NOW ON.
WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LOOKING FOR FEDERAL GRANTS ON HENDERSON ROAD.
THOSE ARE STIPULATIONS WHEN YOU NEED TO GO TO JUMP THROUGH THESE HOOPS IN ORDER TO GET THIS MONEY, THAT'S TO SATISFY THEIR THEIR REQUIREMENTS, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T REALLY BENEFIT THE CITY.
DOCTOR. I MEAN, I DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING ASSERTIVE AND LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS MY COMMENTS WERE DIRECTED TOWARDS.
I'M JUST. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. PROBABLY TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT $35,000 LOOKS LIKE A HALF A PENNY.
BUT TO US, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
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WOULD YOU WORK TEAM WORK WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DEVELOPING THE SAFER ROADS AND ACTIVITY, MATCHING IT UP WITH PLANNING ABSOLUTELY ANY PREVIOUSLY EXISTING PLANS WHEN YOU HIRE FIRM, WHETHER IT BE FOR THE COMP PLAN OR EVEN FOR THIS PLAN, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THOSE RESOURCES SO THAT THEY DO ALIGN.I DO UNDERSTAND CECIL SAYING WE ALWAYS CATCH.
I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF PLANNING AND BEING ELIGIBLE FOR FUTURE THINGS POSSIBLE.
BUT THE CATCH PART IS I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
I MEAN, WHAT IS IT COST TO? SO IT SAYS THAT'S THE COST FOR THE PLAN OF $175,000.
AND THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE US GO THROUGH OR KNOW, SOMEBODY WE WOULD GO THROUGH.
WE WOULD GO THROUGH. SO WE WOULD PUBLISH A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
WE WOULD DETERMINE WHAT FIRM WE WANT TO HIRE TO COMPLETE THE WORK.
AND THEN WE WOULD PONY UP 35,000 AND THEY CUT.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD PAY THE BALANCE.
CORRECT? OKAY. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
DOES THIS GRANT COME WITH ANY STIPULATION? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
SO IN THE FUTURE THEY CAN HOOK US.
THAT'S A HORSE OF A DIFFERENT COLOR.
NO, YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE THEN WE GET A MASTER MOBILITY PLAN PARTIALLY PAID FOR WITH WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS, AND THEN WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE IN THE FUTURE WHAT WE CHOOSE TO TIE OURSELVES TO.
ABSOLUTELY. IF AS IF IT IS AS YOU STATED, AND I KNOW MRS. MAYNARD BELIEVES THIS THAT WAY, THEN I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND THE ONLY REQUIREMENT THAT I SEE SET OUT SPECIFICALLY, EVEN AS IT IS NOTED IN THE RESOLUTION, IS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE MATCHING PORTION AND ABIDE BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE GRANT PROGRAM ITSELF.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLANNING DOCUMENT, WE GET THAT THAT'S OURS.
WE GET TO KEEP IT. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.
WE CAN USE THAT DOCUMENT FOR STATE GRANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
RIGHT. WE COULD HAVE THE PLANNING DOCUMENT AND THEN YES, PURSUE HJK, YOU KNOW, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL BECAUSE WE HAVE YOU KNOW, IT'S MENTIONED IN OUR PLANNING DOCUMENT, WE DON'T EVER HAVE TO GO OUT FOR FEDERAL GRANT RELATED TO SAFE STREETS FOR ALL.
MY QUESTION BOND SAYS 2018 STREET BUDGET.
EXPLAIN THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS CORRECT.
OKAY, SO BUT THAT THAT GO AHEAD.
AND SO FOR SADDLE WHICH ARE TWO REMAINING BIG PROJECTS.
YES. WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BE HAVE A LITTLE CHANGE LEFT OVER THAT WOULD COVER THIS AMOUNT.
DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? I WOULD DEFER TO HECTOR.
BECAUSE HECTOR HAS BEEN WORKING WITH MEGAN.
THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION FOR FUNDING, RIGHT? BLAME IT ON THE GUY WHO'S NOT HERE.
WELL, AND THAT IS NO INTENTION OF MINE.
HE ASKED IF HE NEEDED TO STAY, AND I TOLD HIM HE DID NOT.
SO THAT IS THAT IS COMPLETELY MY FAULT.
YES. THEY WERE LOOKING FOR YOU LAST NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, IN THE SCHEME OF, AGAIN, ALL THE BIGGER PICTURE STUFF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO GETTING GOING OUT FOR THE $10 MILLION BOND, WHICH WE'LL HAVE $5 MILLION FOR HENDERSON ROAD.
SO IF PARRISH AND SILVER SADDLE AND CHANGE ORDER THIS AND WHATEVER, WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER WE CAN WE CAN MAKE THAT UP, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A BIG AMOUNT.
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TO ME IF THERE ARE, IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS THAT TIE US TO THE THING, I MEAN, I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20240723-016. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SARTIN.I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR A CALL FOR A VOTE? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
AND SINCE THIS IS A PART OF THE JUDITH, I'M OUT OF PLACE, LET ME KNOW.
BUT SINCE IT SAYS BUDGET AMOUNT AND IT SAYS FUND 2018 STREET ON.
I KNOW THE ARGUMENT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY WITH WHERE WE ARE.
WHEN WHEN CAN WE EXPECT AN UPDATE ON THAT? SEVERAL SADDLE AND PARISH.
AND SO JOHN PETERSON TOLD ME YESTERDAY AND HE TOLD ME AGAIN TODAY THAT HE SHOULD HAVE THE 70% PLANS OUT TO HECTOR TO REVIEW, WHICH YOU ALL WILL GET A COPY OF.
AND SO THEN WE MOVE IT ON TO 100% AT SOME POINT PENDING FEEDBACK, AND THEN IT'LL GO OUT FOR BID.
OKAY. SO I THINK A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND WE SHOULD BE YOU KNOW, AND THEN IT'S NOTICED.
SO MAYBE 5 OR 6 MONTHS AND I'VE HAD SOME SIDE CONVERSATIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DRAINAGE OVER THERE IN THE PARISH STREET AREA. THERE'S SOME INTERESTING WAYS THE WATER FLOWS OVER THERE.
SO THOSE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT HAVE HAD TO BE RESOLVED.
AND IT'S NOT JUST FAIRLY OBVIOUS WHICH YOU'VE SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS.
THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY.
I JUST WANT TO I JUST I'VE HAD.
QUITE HONESTLY, I'M HOPING WE'LL HEAR SOMETHING MONTHS AGO, BUT.
YOU'RE READY TO GO BACK TO THE AGENDA.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THIS.
WE SEE STREET BOND, STREET BOND 2018.
WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE. THEY CAN BE NERVOUS NOW.
WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNAL BY SAYING I.
I. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. NUMBER 17, MAYOR PRO TEM.
YES, SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE A BREAK? BACKTRACK TO THE ROSEWOOD GRAVE AND GRAVESTONE JUST TO MAKE AN OBSERVATION.
DO I NEED TO OPEN THAT BACK UP? DID ITEM 15 JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU WANT TO REVISIT.
[15. Discussion and possible action on subdivision emergency access gates within the Greystone and Rosewood III Subdivisions. (Part 2 of 2)]
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO REVISIT ITEM NUMBER 15 BY COUNCIL MEMBER BOOTH.ANY SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SARTON.
MISTER BOOTH. BUT I HAVE THE IT PERSON PULL UP.
MAYBE A GOOGLE EARTH OF THAT INTERSECTION, PLEASE.
YOU WANT THE MAP OF IT? ASK FOR GOOGLE? GOOGLE EARTH? GOOGLE MAPS PICTURE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
STREET VIEW, NOT THE STREET OR.
THE CITY'S SOUTH ANY OR SOUTH ANDERSON.
UPPER RIGHT. AND SATELLITE VIEW THERE.
JUST. AN INTERESTING OBSERVATION.
THERE YOU VERY GOOD. LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION.
RIGHT. HURRY UP! CECIL! HE'S GONNA MOVE IT. NOTE THAT THE STREET WIDTH HERE.
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FULL SECTION IS PROBABLY 28FT WIDE.UP TO A POINT WHERE YOU SEE IT STARTS BREAKING DOWN RIGHT IN HERE.
IF YOU COME IN, COME IN AND OFF OF HENDERSON HENDERSON ROAD.
THIS IS MUCH LESS THAN 18 TO 20FT.
YOU GOT A FULL SECTION STREET HERE.
SO SOME OF THEM QUITE LIKELY WILL IMPACT THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
WANT TO SUGGEST THAT IF WE HAVE TRAFFIC TO CONSIDER INITIALLY ONE WAY AT A MINIMUM, IF WE DON'T MAKE THE STREET ONE WAY, MAYBE JUST PUT SIGNS, MAYBE ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE STOP SIGN OR ANOTHER SIGN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT OSTROM, YOU MAY KNOW, BUT NO.
EXIT ONLY. EXIT ONLY, NO ENTRY.
WELL, SO LET ME JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE INTEREST FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO FOOT THE BILL FOR WIDENING, WIDENING THE STREET BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE FILED THIS LAYOUT THAT THAT OTIS HAD.
HE'S GOT UNDER ITEM 15, THE EXHIBIT A ROSEWOOD THREE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE PLAT CECIL, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THE HOA OR DEFUNCT HOA HAS A PROPERTY RESERVE THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR HOA, I'M GOING TO USE THE TERM HOA BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE AN HOA.
WOULD REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR MAKING THAT WIDE ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR THE TWO WAY TRAFFIC.
I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS MIGHT BE A BLESSING IN DISGUISE, THOUGH.
KEEPING IT NARROW. NOW ON THEIR PLAN.
THE 20FT. YEAH, IT'S ON PAGE 120 OF OUR.
BUT YEAH, BUT THAT THAT WAS AS AN EASEMENT.
AND I'M GOING TO SAY PROBABLY NOT.
OKAY. IF OUR CODE IF I'M LOOKING AT THE REAL PLOT HERE, IT'S QUITE LIKELY THAT THE STREET RIGHT AWAY ENDS AT THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE PIPELINE, RIGHT OF WAY AND BETWEEN THE STREET EDGE OF THE.
GO BACK TO THE GOOGLE, PLEASE.
YEAH. SO THE STREET RIGHT OF WAY ENDS RIGHT IN HERE SOMEPLACE.
IT'S PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. ALL THE WAY UP TO SOME POINT HERE, IN BETWEEN HERE AND HERE.
WHILE THIS IS LAND THAT'S OWNED BY THE SUBDIVISION, IT'S THERE'S ONLY AN ACCESS EASEMENT FROM THE STREET RIGHT OF WAY OUT TO HENDERSON ROAD. IT'S NOT PUBLIC.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE ACCESS EASEMENT WAS GRANTED TO.
YEAH, IT JUST SAYS PROPOSED ACCESS.
WELL, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? THAT YOU ALLOW OUR CITY ENGINEER AND YOUR CITY ATTORNEY TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE LEGALLY CAN DO THERE? SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS, DO WE GO BACK AND ALTER WHAT WE SAID ON THE DATE? IF WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED TO DO, I RECOMMEND WE DO IT, BUT WE CAN COME BACK.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET PUBLIC. YOU'RE GOING TO GET FEEDBACK ANYWAYS.
ONCE WE PUBLICIZE IT, I GUARANTEE YOU YOU WILL.
SOMEBODY SHOWING UP. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE RESEARCHING THAT AND WE'LL HAVE BETTER ANSWERS TO TO MAKE A DECISION OR NOT.
SOUNDS LIKE A WINNER. JUST LEAVE THINGS AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S THE SOLUTION THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WIDEN THE ROAD OR SOMETHING.
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YOU KNOW, THE PLANT THAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE ON PAGE 120 SAYS IT'S APPROVED.THERE'S A PROPOSED RESERVE THERE AND WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE RESERVE WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR.
SO WE NEED TO WE NEED TO REVIEW THAT.
OKAY. SO NO ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE ITEM AGENDA 15 AND MOVE ON TO ITEM AGENDA 17.
[17. Discussion and possible action to fund the replacement shade cover over Freedom Park playground with parkland dedication funds.]
YES. SO WE AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, OUT AT FREEDOM PARK BACK IN MARCH, WE HAD SEVERE WEATHER THAT DID DAMAGE THE COVERING OVER FREEDOM PARK PLAYGROUND.WE DID NOT HAVE THIS ITEM COVERED UNDER INSURANCE.
STAFF HAS SINCE AND YOU'LL SEE SATURDAY AGAIN, ANY PARK COMPONENT THAT IS VALUED AT $10,000 OR MORE WILL, WE ARE PROPOSING BE INSURED? FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, STAFF HAS COLLECTED A BY BOARD OF VENDOR QUOTE WHICH INCLUDES IS ENCLOSED IN YOUR PACKET.
WE DON'T YET KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE IT IF ANY AMOUNT WOULD BE AWARDED.
THE NEXT ROTARY FOUNDATION MEETING IS THE FIFTH MONDAY OF THIS MONTH, SO IT IS APPROACHING QUICKLY, SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME RESOLUTION ON THAT. BUT AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE AN UPDATE REGARDING FINANCIAL SUPPORT SINCE THIS IS A HIGH USE PLAYGROUND.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE DO HAVE EXTREME HEAT IN THE AREA AND VERY LITTLE TREE CANOPY AT THIS PARK, WE ARE REQUESTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FUNDING THE COVERING REPLACEMENT WITH EITHER PARKLAND DEDICATION OR GENERAL FUND BALANCE FUNDS.
AND AGAIN, ENCLOSED IS THE PROPOSAL AND COLOR OPTIONS FOR THAT SHADE COVERING.
I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES.
WHAT'S OUR BALANCE OF PARKLAND DEDICATION.
AND WE'RE WE HAVE PENDING DEVELOPMENTS THAT DO OWE US MONEY.
AND THIS IS NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE.
CORRECT. BUT SO WILL THIS AMOUNT REQUESTED NOT ONLY COVER BUT ALSO INSURE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'LL SEE SATURDAY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP IN OCTOBER AFTER WE GET THROUGH BUDGET AND TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT CAN BE NEED TO BE SHOULD BE INSURED AND WHAT THAT QUOTE WOULD BE.
BECAUSE THAT'S A BUDGETARY DECISION.
I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ON THE LIFETIME OF THE COVER.
DID THEY HAVE A THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND IT REALLY, I MEAN, DEPENDS ON EXPOSURE TO THE SUN.
I WILL TELL YOU THE WELL IN WEATHER, A NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT FROM WHAT I RECALL AND WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, THAT THE EXISTING OR THE PREEXISTING SHADE COVERING WAS THERE SINCE INSTALLATION.
SO AND I BELIEVE THE ANGLETON ROTARY CLUB IS WHO FUNDED THAT COVERING INITIALLY, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE OF WHEN THAT WAS INSTALLED, BUT IT HAS BEEN SEVERAL YEARS.
YEAH, IT WOULD REIMBURSE THAT PARKLAND DEDICATION ACCOUNT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IT.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS THERE IS THERE A WAY WE PERHAPS COULD WAIT? SO ABSOLUTELY, WE WERE GOING TO BRING IT FORWARD IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.
BUT I'M ONLY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE RIGHT.
I'M ONLY CONCERNED THAT IT'S JULY AND WE CAN EXPECT A HURRICANE.
WELL, IT'S DOESN'T END TILL MID OCTOBER.
OKAY. I SURE WOULD HATE TO END IN NOVEMBER LONGER THAN THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING YOU PUT IT UP AND MAN, WE COULD LOSE IT.
I GUESS AS LONG AS WE GET IT IMMEDIATELY INSURED.
WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT, AND WE WON'T.
RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD BE A REASON FOR ME TO HESITATE TO PUT IT UP.
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DATE, CAN'T YOU? BECAUSE THE CONTRACTORS ARE DOING THE IT'S ALL COMPREHENSIVE, THE MANUFACTURING, DELIVERY AND INSTALLATION IN THE PROPOSAL, I THINK IT WOULD NOT BE AS CLEAN OF AN EXECUTED POE.I MEAN, WE CAN REQUEST THAT WHAT I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU IS THAT THESE CONTRACTORS, WE WORKED WITH THEM FOR THE PAST, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS AND PROBABLY PRIOR TO THAT, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DID, YOU KNOW, DOWNING TENNIS COURTS.
THEY DO OUR MULCH IN THE PLAYGROUNDS.
I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS ON THEIR BEHALF.
THEY MAY MAINTAIN THIS PROPOSAL IF WE HOLD OFF AT THE RATE THAT IT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.
CERTAINLY. THERE COULD BE SOME DELAY IN THE ORDERING AND PURCHASING.
FIVE WEEKS. SO LET'S PUT YOU RIGHT AROUND BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER.
YEAH. I THINK THERE ARE TWO THINGS HERE.
YOU KNOW, ON ONE SIDE, YOU WANT TO GET THE EQUIPMENT COVERED UP BECAUSE IT BEING IN THE SUN.
RIGHT? DAMAGE TO THE EQUIPMENT FROM UV AND KIDS TRYING TO PLAY ON IT.
YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
AND I'LL I'LL LISTEN TO OTHER IDEAS.
I MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT WE GET IT UP AND AND IT'S NOT INSURED AND OFF IT GOES.
POSSIBLE. I KNOW IT'S NEGATIVE.
LIKE THEY USED TO SAY. WINTER IS COMING.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. PREPARING FOR THE WORST.
GAME OF THRONES. BUT ANY POSSIBLE ACTION FROM COUNCIL. CAN WE ASK TO BRING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE? I MEAN, AND MY AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE EXPRESSING, MEGAN, IS THAT WE WANT CONCERN WOULD BE THAT THESE PRICES MAY CHANGE.
SO I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE WITH THIS VENDOR.
THIS LETTER IS FOUR MONTHS OLD, BUT STILL HE STARTED GAINING CONTROL OF SOME OF THE SUPPLIERS.
HE JUST PROBABLY JUST TOUCH BASE WITH HIM, RIGHT? WE WANT TO DO IT, BUT.
GOT A GUN SHOT. WE JUST HAD A STORM BLOW THROUGH, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH.
STORMS. AND OBVIOUSLY IT LASTED A LONG TIME BEFORE THAT.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE COVER OF THE FACTS WITH CITY PUTS UP.
SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT FINANCIAL STRUCTURE.
WHAT WAS THE PREVIOUS IS IT PURPLE? IT WAS GREEN.
I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE OR SUGGEST AN ALTERNATIVE COLOR.
SCHEME WOULDN'T SOMETHING? WOULDN'T SOMETHING LIED OR POTENTIALLY HOLD UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER? BUT YOU DON'T WANT SOMETHING TO LIGHT THAT, RIGHT? IT LOOKS VERY. AND ONE THING THAT WE DID FIND SPECIFICALLY WITH FREEDOM PARK PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS AND THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT OF.
BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF YELLOW AND PURPLE IN THAT PLAYGROUND, WILL.
YELLOW AND RED IS HORNETS AND BEES FAVORITE COLOR.
AND SO WE'LL PROBABLY STEER CLEAR OF THOSE.
I'VE HEARD AT ONE POINT THAT BLUE IS NOT THEIR FAVORITE COLOR.
IS THAT ACTUALLY TRUE? YOU'VE HEARD THE SAME THING.
AND I SAY THAT THE COOLING FACTOR IS LIKE NEGLIGIBLE.
IT'S LIKE 3 TO 5 DEGREES, BUT THE RAYS ITSELF ARE DARKER.
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AND WE CAN ASK THE VENDOR ABOUT THAT TOO, SO WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, I GUESS.I GUESS ONE THING I WILL SAY ABOUT THAT IS NOBODY'S MARRIED TO A PARTICULAR COLOR.
I WILL JUST SAY, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE CURRENT PLAY STRUCTURE IS YELLOW AND PURPLE.
SO WE WOULD PICK AS WASPS, RIGHT? I'M NOT SAYING IT NEEDS TO BE PURPLE BUT BUT THERE IS PURPLE.
BUT THERE'S ALSO I GUESS I GUESS IT'S JUST PURPLE.
I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOME MORE SHADES.
WE WILL GO WITH WHATEVER COLOR COUNCIL DECIDES.
ALSO. SOMETIMES YOU CAN JUST GIVE IT TO, SAY, THE DIRECTORS AND THEN WE CAN PASS THE BUCK.
THAT'S RIGHT. AND IF YOU DO THAT I'M GOING TO PICK ROYAL PURPLE.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO WHAT WAS YOUR MOTION? POSTPONED. YEAH.
ANOTHER LATER DATE. THIS IS SUCH TIME.
TALKING TO THE MCKENNA, I GUESS, IS THE NAME OF THE RIGHT REGARDING THE PRICING.
TO DO A STUDY? NO. JOHN MIGHT BE AN EXPERT.
I GOT STABBED IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD.
BUT AS LONG AS IT MATCHES THE SYCAMORE.
SO WE CAN GET. WE CAN WE GET IT PUT ON THE FIRST WEEK OF THE IS OCTOBER OF WHEN? OCTOBER. THAT'S PAST THE HURRICANE.
YOU GOT. IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY, IT'S NOT PAST THE HURRICANE, BUT.
BUT IT'S FIVE WEEKS. BUT HE'S SAYING IT'S FIVE WEEKS.
OKAY. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTS THAT WE'VE GOT ABOUT TWO MONTHS FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO THIS IN THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER.
WE'RE LAST MEETING JULY. IT'S JUST THROUGH AUGUST.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN TAKE ACTION AT THAT TIME.
AND I DO THINK IT IS I KNOW WE'RE BEING A LITTLE BIT CYNICAL.
I DO THINK SOME INPUT ON THE SHAPE WOULD BE PRUDENT.
I MEAN, TO HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE CAN WASP OR OTHER THINGS.
OKAY. UV SHADE, IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, DOES A DARKER SHADE.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT MUCH, BUT I'LL TAKE THE TWO DEGREES DIFFERENCE.
AND THEN I WAS THINKING EQUIPMENT IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE CANOPY ITSELF.
SO DEGRADING OF THE EQUIPMENT TRUMPS FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE DEGRADING OF THE CANOPY.
SO DARKER SHADE PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN THE LIGHTER SHADE TO PROTECT THE EQUIPMENT.
SO THERE'S JUST SOME QUESTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW.
ANY FEEDBACK WE'RE GOING TO CERTAINLY DEFER TO YOU I WILL GIVE DIRECTIONS TO OCTOBER.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TONIGHT.
[18. Discussion and possible action to hold a Special Bond Election on November 5, 2024, for the Henderson Road Project.]
HENDERSON ROAD PROJECT.SO THIS IS A REQUEST BY COUNCIL MEMBER TO SEEK DIRECTION FROM THE RESIDENTS WHETHER WE SHOULD GO FOR BOND.
AND THIS WOULD BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.
AND I THINK THE COST, MICHELLE WAS LIKE 9 TO 15,000, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY ENTITIES PARTICIPATE IN THIS, AND THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT IN THE BUDGET.
HOWEVER, WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A NUMBER OF ENTITIES? SO WE SPLIT THE COST.
WE USE THE SAME I MEAN THAT'S A NATIONAL ELECTION.
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USE THE SAME.JUST CURIOUS, IF YOU GO TO VOTE IN THE NATIONAL ELECTION, WOULD YOU HAVE TO VOTE A SEPARATE TIME FOR THIS ONE, OR WOULD IT BE ON WOULD APPEAR ON THE SAME BALLOT? THE SAME BALLOT? OKAY.
JUST TO MAKE SURE. ARE YOU SURE? BECAUSE WHENEVER WE VOTED THE LAST TIME FOR ANGLETON TO BE ABLE TO USE THESE COMPUTERS, THEY HAD LIKE THE WALL.
I COULDN'T USE THESE COMPUTERS.
I THINK THAT'S THAT'S BECAUSE WE WERE.
ARE YOU TALKING ONE BALLOT? CHARTER. ELECTION? NEVER MIND. THAT WAS FOR THE RUNOFF.
YEAH. THERE WERE SEVERAL ROUNDS.
YEAH. I THINK WHEN YOU PUT IN YOUR ZIP CODE OR WHEREVER THEY YOU GET.
A BALLOT THAT REFLECTS WHERE YOU LIVE.
WELL, WE ONLY BE ABLE TO VOTE HERE.
OR WILL IT BE ALL OVER THE COUNTY? ALL OVER THE COUNTY? REALLY? IN A CITY OF LEXINGTON? I FIGURED EVERYBODY JUST DID THEIR VOTING OUT AT THE OLD WALMART.
I GUESS THAT'S NOT REALLY THE QUESTION, THOUGH.
TO ME, THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO PUT THIS ISSUE ON THE SPECIAL BOND OR PUT IT UP FOR A VOTE.
SO THE DEADLINE. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ANGST ABOUT GENERATING FUNDS FOR HENDERSON ROAD.
WHERE IS IT GOING TO COME FROM? WE ALL KNOW IT'S A BIG TICKET ITEM.
WELL, THAT'S I THINK THE QUESTION IS HOW WHAT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE FROM WHERE I SIT, I FEEL LIKE I NEED MORE INFORMATION.
SO LIKE, HOW MUCH ARE WE EXPECTING OR ASKING FOR OR FOR ASKING FOR THE CITIZENS TO VOTE ON? WELL, THAT'S A DECISION THAT HAS TO BE MADE.
WE I MEAN, BASICALLY, I THINK THE ESTIMATE IS BETWEEN 50 AND 60 MILLION.
AND IT REALLY PARTLY HINGES ON WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO IT BECAUSE YOU GET THE MONEY NOW, BUT IF YOU DON'T SPEND IT FOR THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE COST OF GOODS AND SERVICES GO UP.
BUT I THINK I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT GOING FOR GRANTS, THE DISCUSSION WAS WE'RE NOT READY TO DO THAT. AND SO THE ONLY OTHER OPPORTUNITY IS TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A YOU CAN'T RAISE THAT MUCH MONEY AS A COUNCIL WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL.
SO. IS THE QUESTION BEING ASKED TONIGHT WHETHER TO HAVE AN ELECTION? YES, YES.
WELL, I'M NOT SURE THAT I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMING, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU HAVE TO GO BORROW 60 MILLION ALL AT ONCE.
YOU KNOW, OUR ENGINEER OR WHOEVER THE ENGINEER IS WOULD WOULD COME UP WITH A PHASED PLAN TO SAY, HEY, I'M JUST MAKING THIS UP, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY TWO YEARS YOU NEED $10 MILLION.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE WE GO DO THAT AND IT'S EITHER WITHIN OUR BONDING CAPACITY OR IT'S OUTSIDE.
BUT PARTICULARLY IF IT'S OUTSIDE, THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE VOTER APPROVAL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT A FINANCIAL GUY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIMITED TO 3.5% PER YEAR ON PROPERTY TAXES, PERIOD.
AND SO IF YOU WANT TO GO OUTSIDE OF THAT, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO BRING IN JOE MORROW AND SOME OF THOSE GUYS, FOLKS TO TELL US, CAN WE DO IT? WHAT'S THE IMPACT? WHAT'S OUR BOND RATING, WHAT'S OUR YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR TAX RATE.
BUT THAT'S NOT I MEAN, IT, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO CALCULATE IT THROUGH A 14 PAGE FORMULA TO FIGURE OUT THE TAX RATE. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY CHANGE THE LAWS, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS FROM NOW, EVERYTHING WE HAD IS OUT THE WINDOW OR IT'S
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CHANGED. THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS IS I FEEL LIKE THERE'S THERE NEEDED TO BE A PREREQUISITE TO THIS, WHICH WAS OUTLINING TO US EXACTLY WHAT A INITIAL PHASE OF THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO COST.SO WE COULD REALLY GET A GOOD LINE OF SIGHT ON WHAT THE IMPLICATION OF THAT BOND AMOUNT WOULD BE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL WE KNOW THAT.
I HAVE THE GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT THAT WE CONSTERNATION ABOUT FUNDING.
I AGREE THAT THAT'S THAT'S A BIG ISSUE.
I AGREE THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I THINK WE'RE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
I'M WITH YOU. TO ME, I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS, AND IF THERE WERE A MORE DIRECT LINE OF STEPS IN WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS OTHER THAN JUST BEING TOLD, OKAY, IT COULD BE 50, IT COULD BE $60 MILLION.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THAT'S REALLY GOING TO GET US.
I JUST I'M NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE.
CAN WE CAN WE BRING HDR BACK TO THE TABLE ON THIS? MAYBE NEXT TIME.
MICHELLE, WHEN'S THE DEADLINE? AUGUST 19TH.
YEAH. SO THE CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE WE HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR THE ELECTION BY AUGUST 19TH SO WE CAN FORMULATE THE LANGUAGE. IT GETS APPROVED THROUGH ALL THE WICKETS TO GET ON THE BALLOT.
AND SO YES, WE CAN I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO SLIDE THIS ONE MORE.
WELL, WHAT I MAY PROPOSE AND IT'S JUST AN IDEA.
WE COULD WORKSHOP THIS IN THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST FOR 30 MINUTES, GET SOME OF THESE DETAILS AND THEN BRING IT BACK AS AN ACTION ITEM LATER IN THE ACTUAL MEETING. SO THE FIRST MEETING WILL BE THE ONLY MEETING.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE GETTING FINAL ON THE CALMAC CONTRACT.
I WANT TO BRING THAT FORWARD ON THE MEETING.
THAT FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST AND UNDERSTANDING IT'S A BUDGET MEETING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TIME SENSITIVE THING THAT WE WANT TO GET GOING ON.
SO THERE MAY BE A COUPLE OTHER LIKE REGULAR ITEMS. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG DISCUSSION.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW WITH THE TASK FORCE.
WE PUSHED THAT OFF TO AUGUST 21ST, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT MEETING GOING.
REMEMBER WHEN HDR ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS? THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S THE THE WALL THINGS? AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALL DOUBLE MEDIAN DOWN WITH THE LANDSCAPE IN THE MIDDLE.
IT WAS SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.
AND WE'VE WE'VE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TIGHTENED THE FOCUS.
I'M JUST AFRAID THAT WE COULD BE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR FAILURE.
IF WE'RE NOT OUR I'S DOTTED AND T'S CROSSED, THEN WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR MESSAGE.
IT'S LIKE CLIMBING THAT HILL TWICE AS HIGH.
HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT? IF IT'S VOTED DOWN TO BE BROUGHT BACK UP TO.
COUNCIL QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN AMOUNT THAT WE KNOW THAT WE NEED OR HOW WE'RE GOING TO AFFORD IT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, CECIL? YOU KEEP COMING UP WITH SOME REAL NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S BASED
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UPON SOME PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES IDEAS OF AND WE'D LIKE.THE TASK FORCE IS IDENTIFYING AND TRYING TO REFINE WHAT THE STREET'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
MADE SOME MAJOR, MAJOR STRIDES DURING THE FIRST DURING THIS FIRST MEETING.
AND THEN THEY WENT BACK AND REFINING THEIR THEIR PRESENTATION TO THE TASK FORCE FOR THIS, THIS NEXT MEETING, AUGUST THE 21ST, WITH THE RESULTS OF THOSE THAT MEETING, THE INTENTION IS TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS WHAT THE TASK FORCE HAS DECIDED.
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO WHAT TO BUILD FOR THE STREET? YEAH. I'M THINKING THAT THERE'S A THERE'S THE GREAT DIVIDE.
WE EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LOW, IT'S ONE OF THE WATER.
YOU CROSS HENDERSON ROAD THERE IN THE IN THE BUCKNER ROAD AREA THAT THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS FROM BUCKNER ROAD BACK TO HIGHWAY 288.
BUT WE COULD, IF YOU DRAW A LINE THERE AND SAY EVERYTHING WEST OF THAT IS GOING TO CAUSE THIS MILLION, THIS MANY MILLION DOLLARS, AND THE REST OF IT'S GOING TO COST THIS MANY MILLION DOLLARS.
COME UP WITH AN AMOUNT FOR THE FOR THE VOTERS TO VOTE ON THAT IF IT CAME IN.
UNDER THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE VOTE FOR IS LESS THAN THE FULL VOTE.
YOU JUST BUILD WHAT YOU CAN BUILD.
SO WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I USED TO TELL YOU UNTIL.
SO LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION THEN.
REGARDLESS, ARE WE GOING TO GO OUT FOR SOME SORT OF BOND? BECAUSE IF WE ARE, THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER.
IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE CITIZENS TO VOTE AND APPROVE A BOND OF ANY TYPE, THEN AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE MONEY IS, BECAUSE WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WITHIN THE FOLLOWING DAYS.
I'LL PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
IN THIS IS HOW MY MIND WORKS IN THAT.
I WANT TO BE GOOD, FAITHFUL STEWARD OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE TAX RATE BEFORE I EVEN CONSIDER IS IT? WE COULD I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COULD BE, BUT IT COULD BE AT SUCH AN ASTRONOMICAL SUM TO OUR TAX ROLLS THAT THAT'S UP TO US.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE VOTERS CAN VOTE ON IT, BUT I MEAN, WE JUST TO DO IT.
I JUST LET ME GIVE YOU I'LL GIVE YOU A SWAG.
SO FILL THE TEN, $10.5 MILLION WE'RE GOING TO BORROW WAS WHAT INCREASE WAS IT? THREE AND A HALF CENTS PER $10 MILLION? I THINK IT WAS THAT EMAIL I SENT YOU ALL.
I THINK IT WAS THREE AND A HALF.
SO JUST TAKE TIMES FIVE, FIVE TIMES 15, $0.15 ON THE TAX RATE, ASSUMING A HALF HOUR DEBT CAN HANDLE IT AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF FOR $50,000,000.17.
AND THAT'S IT TO TODAY'S POPULATION.
TODAY'S BEFORE THE NEW HOUSES ARE CONTINUING TO.
AND WE'RE ALSO ASSUMING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO FOR THE FULL AMOUNT.
WELL, WELL, WELL, COUNCILMAN BOOTH SAID, WAS THAT IF WE WORK OUR WAY FROM.
88. THAT FAST GOING WEST KICK, THAT KICK THAT APART FROM THE BUCK TO THE 35 DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.
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I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT SAVES.SO WHAT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED BY AUGUST 19TH? NOT THE AMOUNT. RIGHT.
RIGHT. SO THE INFORMATION WE GOT FROM BRACEWELL, THEY SAID OCTOBER 15TH WOULD BE THE DATE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THE LANGUAGE THAT APPEARS ON THE BALLOT.
SO AROUND I GUESS IT'S OCTOBER 15TH.
SO THAT GIVES YOU TIME FOR THE SECOND TASK FORCE MEETING FOR HDR TO COME BACK AND REFINE COSTS.
WHEN IS EARLY VOTING BEGAN? SO THEY ONLY GIVE SOME LIKE A FEW DAYS BEFORE EARLY VOTING.
EARLY VOTING IS GOING TO BEGIN, LIKE JUST RIGHT AFTER THAT, I MEAN.
I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE LAST DAY.
I WISH THE VOTER INFORMATION DOCUMENT FOR EACH PROPOSITION MUST BE POSTED.
IT'S GOT TO BE SOONER THAN THAT.
WELL, THE REAL THE REAL PROBLEM WAS THE HURRICANE.
AND I HAD THIS MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.
IT WAS ON THE AGENDA TWO WEEKS AGO.
RIGHT. SO THEY DON'T GIVE AN EXACT DATE FOR THAT.
BUT ALSO THE COUNTY REQUEST HAS THEIR OWN SCHEDULE.
SO IT DEPENDS WHEN THE COUNTY NEEDS THAT.
I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE JOHN PETERSON COME BACK AT THAT NEXT, NEXT MEETING, OR WE CAN CALL ANOTHER MEETING AND HAVE HIM GIVE YOUR GIVE YOU THE ESTIMATE. BUT I'M GUARANTEEING YOU BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND TASK FORCE MEMBER FOR THOSE ARE THERE THE FIRST TASK FORCE, A LOT OF CHANGES WERE MADE.
SO HE'S GOT TO TAKE THAT BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO A SOUTH SIDEWALK, AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE OUT $3 MILLION AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO FULL MEDIAN DOWN THE WHATEVER.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THE STRIPING AND THE PARTIAL MEDIAN.
AND SO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME ENGINEERING WORK.
AND THEN THEN YOU MIGHT GET THE COST ASSESSMENT, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT WITHIN A MONTH.
YEAH. AND SO IF WE CAN LOOK AT 21ST LET'S START OCTOBER 25TH. THIS IS JUST I REALLY THINK WE'RE SETTING US UP FOR FAILURE.
NOT GIVING ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO CHEW ON IT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE SCRAMBLING AROUND AND AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK UP.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BECAUSE IF WE GO IN THAT BIG, $32 MILLION IS REALLY WORTH HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ASKING US, WHERE IS THERE A SPRING ELECTION? YES, THERE IS A CITY.
THERE IS A CITY ELECTION IN MAY.
YEAH, WE DID ON THE CITY ELECTION.
THANK YOU FOR. THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.
IF WE AIM FOR MAY, THEN WE'RE SAVING A FEW THOUSAND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT ON THE NOVEMBER.
I KNOW PEOPLE WILL VOTE NO, JUST ON PRINCIPLE.
I HAVE NO TIME FOR THE MOST RECENT CONVERSATION ABOUT DACA HAS KICKED US UP INTO A HIGHER LEVEL OF WHAT IS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, IT MEANS WE'RE PROGRESSING ALONG IN THE TIF GRANT.
I THINK IT'S TIF GRANT THROUGH HCC.
BUT IT'S LIKE EVERY OTHER GRANT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S STEP WHATEVER OF THE PROCESS TO SEE IF WE BECOME A FINALIST OR WHAT WE'RE RANKED.
WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO HEAR ANYTHING ON THAT? TRUTHFULLY I MEAN, AT BEST CASE SCENARIO, IF IT WERE TO EVER GO OUR WAY.
BETTER TO GO FOR TO GET IT IN NOVEMBER.
NO. MAY TO TO TO MAY EVEN IF WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH SOMEHOW TO GET THE HACK.
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I MEAN IF IT PASSED ON THIS GREAT.NO. FEBRUARY 14TH IS THE LAST DAY TO ORDER THAT ELECTION.
IF WE WANTED TO MOVE IT TO MAY.
WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF TIMES A DAY? THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER QUARTER.
CORNER THERE. I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T FIND THE ANSWER TO.
I WANT TO HIT THIS THING THAT EVERYBODY HAS FULL KNOWLEDGE.
WHEN VOTER COMES UP TO YOU AND ASK YOU A QUESTION, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR US SHRUG OUR SHOULDERS.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND RESCIND THIS VOTE TONIGHT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
WELL, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WAS SAYING ARE WE DO WE WANT TO DO WE WANT TO TAKE DO WE WANT TO TAKE THE VOTE THIS WEEK, OR SET THE BUDGET AND DO THE LEGWORK AND TRY TO FIT THE LEGWORK IN BETWEEN OR NOT? I THINK WE'RE TIME, AS CHRISTY MENTIONED, THE FIRST EARLY VOTING IN OCTOBER.
TIME FOR ME. I THINK WHEN YOU ARE PROPOSING WHAT COULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND $60 MILLION FOR THE FULL VOTE FOR A VOTE, AND YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GET ON BOARD.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS, AND I DON'T THINK YOU JUST KNOW.
AND THAT'S FINE. THE DEBATE CAN HAPPEN.
THAT'S FINE. LET THE VOTERS DEBATE THAT.
BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO THIS IS WHY I SAID EARLIER, I DON'T WANT TO SET OURSELVES UP FOR FAILURE.
AND AND I THINK IT ALSO HELPS FOR REALLY ENCOURAGING OR PUSHING IT THROUGH.
THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT PROCESS.
I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME MORE CONCRETE NUMBERS, BE LIKE, SOMEONE COMES UP TO ME, WHAT IS THIS GOING TO DO FOR THE MY TAX RATE THIS YEAR? IF YOU ALL GO OUT FOR 10 MILLION, I WANT TO KNOW, LIKE, OKAY, WELL, BASED ON THESE CALCULATIONS, YOUR TAX BILL WILL BE THIS MUCH HIGHER. SO YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THURSDAY WHEN YOU MEET WITH JOE MORROW, YOU CAN ASK HIM THOSE QUESTIONS.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH REGARDS TO THAT.
THAT'S GOING TO COME IN A IN A STEP, STEP BY STEP.
YOU'RE GOING TO THE VOTERS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT PROBABLY THE FIRST TAX INCREASE IS GOING TO COVER THE FIRST SET OF BONDS THAT ARE FIRST SERIES OF BONDS, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO GO UP FROM THAT WHEN WE ISSUE THE NEXT PURCHASE, THE NEXT BONDS TO FINISH OUT THE JOB.
SO IT'S NOT ALL GOING TO HIT THE SAME TIME, BUT BUT PROGRESSIVELY THROUGHOUT.
MAYBE A COUPLE OF TAX SEASONS WILL END UP HAVING A HIGHER.
YOU'RE VOTING YOUR OWN TAX RATE.
BUT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER DANIEL.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST I THINK I LOOK LIKE I THINK I LOOK STUPID, QUITE HONESTLY, I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT.
IF YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN IT TO WHO YOU'RE ASKING TO VOTE IT FOR, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY NO.
IF IT'S VOTED DOWN BY THE VOTERS, YOU HAVE TO WAIT THREE YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN BRING IT BACK.
NO, I DON'T WANT TO RUSH. WE CAN'T.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT.
OKAY. I JUST ASKED, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME? NO, NO. I'M DONE.
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
SO IS THERE ANY ACTION? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
SO I RECOMMEND IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK, THAT YOU MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL JANUARY, BECAUSE IT WILL GIVE US SUFFICIENT TIME TO DO IT ON A ON A SPRING ELECTION, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, OR AT LEAST CONSIDER IT BY THEN IN DECEMBER, DECEMBER, MAYBE? YEAH, AS I SAY, I'D DO IT EARLIER.
I'D LIKE TO LIKE REFRESH AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THE DECISION.
SO REMEMBER, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER AND NOVEMBER.
VERY GOOD. SLAP IT ON THAT 1ST NOVEMBER, THAT 1ST DECEMBER MEETING.
BECAUSE WE GOT ONE IN NOVEMBER AND ONE IN.
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AND YOU COULD JUST BE AN UPDATE.LIKE IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE THE DECISION TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT DURING NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.
IT COULD BE LIKE AN UPDATE OF WHERE Y'ALL ARE AND LIKE, WHAT NUMBERS DO Y'ALL HAVE SET WITH THE PLAN ON THE TASK FORCE? I MEAN, I'M GOING TO COME BACK EARLIER THAN THAT.
AND SO LIKE OCTOBER, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE SECOND TASK FORCE, GIVE HER SOME TIME TO REFINE THE CONCEPT AND THE NUMBERS AND THEN PRESENT TO YOU ALL WHAT THE CURRENT STATE LOOKS LIKE.
I'M JOHN AND I ARE ON THE THE MAYOR AND I ARE ON THIS TASK FORCE.
WHEN WE MEET THE NEXT TIME, WE'LL MAKE SURE AND TELL THEM BASED UPON THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE BY THE TASK FORCE TONIGHT, YOU START GENERATING YOUR NEW STREET SECTION.
WHAT THE STREET'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DECIDE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B, FROM B TO C AND A BACK DOWN TO D OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO GET ROUND NUMBERS.
SO WE CAN KIND OF DO THE MATH.
AND YOU PRESENT SO SO REALITY WILL PROBABLY BE THAT THE JOHN WILL COME BACK AND UPDATE THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE JUST MET WITH THE TASK FORCE AND DONE THE REVISIONS.
I LIKE THAT. WELL, I'VE SEEN THE BIG BOND ELECTIONS THAT HAVE TYPICALLY PASSED HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE VOTERS FOR QUITE A WHILE.
I AGREE, SO THEY'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO GO TO DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AROUND AND GO TO VARIOUS CIVIC GROUPS. HOLD, HOLD OPEN MEETINGS AND STUFF TO TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS.
TALK IT UP AT HOME AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
TO BE IN MOTION TO TABLE THIS, PLEASE, UNTIL A FUTURE DATE.
SO WE CAN GET IT ON ELECTION IF WE NEED FUTURE DATE IN 2024.
OKAY, SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER BOOTH? A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER ROBERTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY CALL FOR A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
I. ANY OPPOSITION? SAME SIGN. NO, I COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THE MAYOR IS NOT HERE, SO HE GETS NO COMMUNICATION.
[COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL]
YOU GO BUT COUNCIL DOES.I DON'T KNOW HOW THE APPROPRIATE WAY.
I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE ON THE WATER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THE QUALITY OF THE WATER? YES. THE SMELL I GOT EVERYBODY, I MEAN, EVERY.
AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MAURICE OR SOMEBODY.
I DON'T KNOW, I'VE NEVER BEEN THROUGH THIS, SO I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE, BUT IT'S BEEN THREE WEEKS.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL IT'S USUALLY FASTER THAN I WOULD THINK.
WE WOULD HAVE MOVED A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN THAT, BUT MAYBE NOT.
I JUST WOULD LOVE SOME EMAIL FROM VW.
BECAUSE I'VE HAD PEOPLE ASK ME WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO GET BACK TO NORMAL? BUT THE WATER QUALITY IS, I UNDERSTAND, IS PERFECTLY FINE.
IT'S SOMETHING, BUT IT HAS THE APPEARANCE.
IT'S OBNOXIOUS, YOU KNOW, THE SMELL.
I DON'T REMEMBER BEING LIKE THIS IN HARVEY, BUT OKAY.
NEXT. MY NEXT THOUGHT WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED EARLIER IN COUNCIL OR IN DURING THEIR MEETING.
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BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD A NEW TURN, I THINK IT'S PRETTY STANDARD IN CITY ANGLETON THAT CORNERS WE PUT LIGHTING.AND SO IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A NEW CORNER, LET'S MAKE SURE.
JOSH ANDERSON LOOK AT IT OKAY.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ON SILVER SADDLE AND PARISH IN THE 2018 BOND.
WELL, LIKE I SAID, I EXPECT A 70% UPDATE THIS WEEK AS SOON AS I GET IT ALL FORWARDED OUT TO COUNCIL.
ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. IT TIME IS NOW 950 AND 30S AND I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.