* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] WE'LL [DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER] GO AHEAD AND START THIS SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UM, SATURDAY AT 8:32 AM UH, IF YOU LOST RISE, PLEASE FOR THE INVOCATION COUNCILMAN BOOTH, WILL YOU GIVE THAT FATHER GOD THANK YOU. ANOTHER DAY YOU'VE GIVEN US, WELL, IT'S A RAINY ONE. WE DO ASK YOU THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THE RAIN AWAY, GIVE US A DRYING WEATHER, BUT WE REALIZE THAT YOU'RE IN CONTROL. WE JUST ASK YOU TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS MEETING THIS MORNING. GIVE US YOUR WISDOM. HELP THE PRESENTERS AS THEY PRESENT TO US, AND TO, UH, EXPLAIN THE NEEDS OF THE CITY. BUT FATHER, HELP US TO BE ATTENTIVE TO WHAT WE, WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING NOW. HELP US TODAY. WATCH OVER US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE IN CHRIST AND WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE YOU SAYS, WISHING TO, TO ADDRESS COUNSEL. I DON'T SEE ANY. WE'LL GO RIGHT TO THE AGENDA. ITEM [1. Discussion and possible action to extend the Disaster Declaration for 30 days.] NUMBER ONE, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO EXTEND THE DISASTER DECLARATION FOR 30 DAYS. WHO WANTS JUST A, I MEAN, IT'S AN OPTION. WE HAVE A CURRENT DISASTER DECLARATION IF YOU WANT TO EXTEND IT OR NOT. UM, IT'S KIND OF BECOMING IRRELEVANT AT THIS POINT 'CAUSE WE'VE KIND OF WORKED THROUGH MOST OF THE ISSUES AND DECISIONS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPENDING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? UH, WELL, CURRENTLY HECTOR'S BUYING SIGNS THAT ARE MISSING, DAMAGED OR SOMETHING. AND DOESN'T THE DISASTER DECLARATION AFFECT THE REIMBURSEMENT? IT COULD POTENTIALLY, YES. OKAY. SO I SENT AN EMAIL 40 EMAIL FROM JAMIE LAST YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. SO IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT CATEGORIES ARE COVERED RIGHT NOW, THOSE CATEGORIES AREN'T COVERED. UM, BUT AGAIN, IF WE GO TO CLAIM ALL THAT AND WHATEVER, I THINK IT'S JUST PRUDENT TO EXTEND THE DISASTER DECLARATION. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE DECLARATION. DISASTER DECLARATION. SECOND. SECOND. YEAH. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PER TIM TOWNSEND SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL, UH, TO EXTEND THE DEC DECLARATION FOR 30 DAYS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? HEARING? NONE. CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. [2. Review and discussion of the Fiscal Year 2024-25 Budget.] ALL RIGHT, NEXT TO THE WORKSHOP, WHAT WE'RE ALL HERE FOR. ITEM NUMBER TWO, REVIEW AND DISCUSSION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 BUDGET. SO YOU'VE GOT A HANDOUT IN FRONT OF YOU THAT KIND OF DETAILS THE DAY. UM, WE, WE'VE LINED UP THE DEPARTMENTS, UH, TO TALK ON OR ABOUT THOSE TIMES. UH, MY RECOMMENDATION IS, YOU KNOW, WE STICK TO THE SCHEDULES AS CLOSE AS WE CAN. UM, IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE SAY, Y'ALL SAY, HEY, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, OR WE WANNA REVISIT THIS, UH, WE'LL TAKE NOTES. UM, AND WE WILL COME BACK AND PRESENT THOSE AT EITHER THE NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP OR SOME OTHER TIME. UM, AS YOU NOTICE, THERE'S, UH, REALLY NO BREAKS. 'CAUSE THE, THE INTENT IS TO HELP Y'ALL, HELP US GET THROUGH, THROUGH ALL THIS. IT'LL BE A LONG DAY. SO COME AND GO AS YOU PLEASE. JOHN, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK, TELL US AND WE WILL TAKE A BREAK. UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT OFFICIALLY PROGRAMMED. UH, AGAIN, LUNCH WILL APPEAR AT SOME POINT AND WE'LL GRAB STUFF. AND MAYBE THAT'S THE TIME TO TAKE A SMALL BREAK AND, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF EAT AND CONTINUE LISTENING. SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PHIL. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. COUNSEL, I WAS GONNA START, I'M GONNA START THIS MORNING BY KIND OF REVIEWING SOME OF THE INFORMATION I GAVE YOU ON LAST TUESDAY. IS THAT MIKE? OKAY, THERE HE IS. OKAY. UH, THERE'S, THERE SHOULD BE ONE NUMBER LABELED NUMBER ONE. OKAY. UH, WELL, WE'LL START WITH THIS ONE. THIS IS THE, UH, LIST OF LAST YEAR'S [00:05:01] PROJECTS THAT WE, UH, THE STAFF PRESENTED TO YOU. I'VE, I WILL ASK STAFF TO COME BACK IN AND PUT A STATUS ON EACH OF THESE SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WAS DONE, WHAT WAS FUNDED, WHAT WASN'T. OH, HE'S CHANGED IT AGAIN. OKAY. THAT'S THE FUND BALANCE. IS THAT THE FUND BALANCE ONE. OKAY. UH, WE'LL START OUT WITH THE BUDGETED FUND BALANCE FOR THIS YEAR. FOR THE GENERAL FUND WAS 3,898,000. YEAR TO DATE. AS OF END OF JUNE, WE ARE AT THE FUND. BALANCE IN GENERAL FUND IS 4,641,000. THIS DOES NOT HAVE THE EXPENSES FROM THE HURRICANE FACTORED INTO IT. UH, SO WE'LL COLLEEN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE LOSSES IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. WILL YOU SCROLL DOWN PLEASE? UH, THE WATER FUND, WE BUDGETED A FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR OF 3,723,000. YEAR TO DATE, WE ARE AT 4,227,000. IF YOU NOTICE, THE NET CHANGE ON THIS IS A NEGATIVE. THAT'S BECAUSE WE, THIS AS OF THE END OF JUNE, WE HADN'T STARTED SUMMER BUILDINGS YET. UH, THAT I EXPECT THE, THAT FLIP AROUND VERY QUICKLY ONCE WE GET INTO THE SUMMER MONTHS. OKAY, WE GO ONTO THE NEXT, UH, WORKSHEET. OKAY. THIS ONE IS A LIST OF, OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED OUT OF FUND BALANCE YEAR TO DATE. UH, IF YOU NOTICE, THE BIG ONE IS THE MIDYEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT. THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT DOES INCLUDE THE COST OF THE STORM IN MARCH, RIGHT? SO WE'VE HIT, UH, WE'RE GONNA END UP HITTING FUND BALANCE FOR OVER A MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR. WELL, ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IN THE WATER FUND, WE'VE GOT ITEMS ABOUT 993,000 WORTH OF, UH, PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED OUT OF FUND BALANCE. SO THAT'S GONNA ALSO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BEARING ON OUR FUND BALANCE. GO TO THE NEXT PRES, NEXT WORKSHEET. OKAY, THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS THE LIST OF THE PACKAGES THAT WE HAD PRESENTED LAST YEAR. THE ONES THAT WERE FUNDED, AND YOU HAVE A HANDOUT WITH THIS INFORMATION. THE ONES THAT ARE FUND WERE FUNDED ARE IN GREEN. WE HAD A TOTAL OF $7,240,000 WORTH OF REQUESTS LAST YEAR. UH, WE FUNDED ABOUT 5% OF THOSE. ABOUT ANOTHER 1% WERE COMPLETE, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE DONE WITH THE OPERATIONS BUDGET. UH, SOME OF THE OTHER 19% HAVE BEEN, ARE, ARE SCHEDULED TO BE DONE WITH THE COS THAT THE A BLC ISSUED EARLIER THIS YEAR. UH, WE'VE GOT 300,000 THAT HAVE BEEN, WE HAVE A GRANT ALREADY FOR, TO FUND. AND THEN WE'VE APPLIED FOR $852,000 WORTH OF GRANTS. SCROLL DOWN PLEASE. OUR, WE, SO WE ENDED UP WITH ABOUT 4,287,000 WORTH OF REQUESTS THAT WERE NOT FUNDED. IF YOU'LL SCROLL TO THE NEXT ONE OR GO TO THE NEXT PRESENT. NUMBER FOUR REAL QUICK. THAT GRANT APPLIED FOR, DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAD THE GRANT ALREADY, CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT WERE YOU, WERE YOU IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING? THIS IS A LIST OF THE PACKAGES THAT WERE REQUESTED THIS YEAR. UH, WHENEVER I SENT OUT THE BUDGET TO YOU, I GAVE YOU ALL ACCESS TO THE, UH, OUR BUDGET SOFTWARE. THE, IF YOU GO INTO THE BUDGET SOFTWARE AND LOOK AT THE PACKAGES, THEY ARE RANKED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE REPORT, HAVE THE RANKINGS ON THIS SPREADSHEET. AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE IN, IN FRONT OF YOU. OKAY. GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. THIS IS, UH, THE CERTIFIED VALUES. ACCORDING TO WHAT I WAS ABLE TO PULL FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S WEBSITE, WE STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. WELL, IT GOT SENT TO ME YESTERDAY. IT WAS [00:10:01] THIS, THAT WAS THIS, THAT WAS THIS, THAT WAS THIS. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION WE HAVE AT THE TIME. SO I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T CLARIFY THAT. UH, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THIS SCREEN. OKAY. THIS IS THE, WE HAVE A, THIS IS THE PAGE OF LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE UNDER A RB REVIEW. THEY ARE, WE HAVE $179 MILLION WORTH OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNDER AI, UH, UNDER REVIEW. GO TO PAGE ONE OF THIS. WELL, I THINK AT THIS POINT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED. IT JUST HASN'T BEEN UPDATED. OKAY. SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. WE HAVE 1 BILLION, 1,741 MILLION OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE CERTIFIED AS OF THE 23RD OF JULY. SO IN THE NEXT, IN THE FOLLOWING SPREADSHEET, OR IN JUST A FEW MINUTES, I WILL SHOW YOU THE ESTIMATED TAX RATE AND I USED A TOTAL, A SUM OF THE, A I OF THE APPROVED AND THE UNDER RE UNDER REVIEW FOR A TOTAL OF $1,921 MILLION WORTH OF TAXABLE VALUE. OKAY, GO TO THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS THE, UH, THE ROLE THAT I WAS SENT BY THE COUNTY AND IT UP HIGHLIGHTED UP THERE IS THE TAX NET TAXABLE VALUE FOR LAST YEAR. THAT WAS 1,558 MILLION. SO IT COMPARING THE TOTAL VALUE, THAT ONE COMPARING 1,921 MILLION TO THIS 1,000,558,000. THE DIFFERENCE IS 368, 360 $3 MILLION IN, IN VALUE. THAT WAS NOT, UH, ON THE ROLLS LAST YEAR. OKAY. GO TO THE NEXT, SHOULD BE THE, YES, THIS ONE. OKAY. THIS IS A ROUGH CALCULATION OF OUR TAX RATE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. UH, IF YOU GOING, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ROUGH BECAUSE LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE, THE CALCULATION IS SEVERAL PAGES LONG THAT THE COUNTY WILL FILL OUT AND SEND TO US. BUT, UH, BASED ON THE VALUES THAT I THAT WE HAVE SO FAR, I'VE ESTIMATED THAT OUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS GONNA BE 41 CENTS FOR M AND O. IF WE GO, IF WE ADD THE DEBT RATE, WHICH IS 8 CENTS, WE HAVE A, UH, NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF ABOUT 50 CENTS OR 51 CENTS FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. THE 8 CENTS IS COVERS THE DEBT SERVICE FOR ALL OF THE CURRENT DEBT, PLUS THE 10 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ISSUING LATER THIS YEAR. WE HAD, WE SENT THAT IN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO PUT THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE LIST OF THE INFORMATION I SENT TO THE COUNTY. SO THE 8 CENTS, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT. UH, IT'S, WE, OUR, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE 41 CENTS. THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE FOR M AND O IS 42 CENTS, AND WITH THE TOTAL VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF 51 CENTS, WE CAN GO UP AS HIGH AS 53 CENTS USING THE, THE DE MINIMUS RATE. IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, NEXT SET, IT SHOULD BE A SPREADSHEET NAMED, UH, FUND BALANCES OR FUND SUMMARIES. BILL, WHILE HE'S BRINGING THAT UP, YOU JUST SHOWED AN INS RATE OF 8 CENTS, BUT WHAT WE GOT PRESENTED TO US BY JOE JUST YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE THURSDAY. YEAH, THURSDAY WAS SIX 6 CENTS AND THAT WAS 0.0 6 7 2 9 9 7. THAT WAS BA THAT [00:15:01] WAS BASED ON LAST YEAR'S VALUES. I, AND I HAVEN'T COMPARED WHAT I'VE CALCULATED TO WHAT HE HAS YET TODAY. SO I CAN FIND OUT, FIND OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS. YEAH. TWO DIFFERENCE. OKAY. THIS IS THE FUND SUMMARY FOR GENERAL FUND. THE IMPORT, THE COLUMN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR OR TODAY IS THE BASE, THE BASE FOR 25 AND USING THE TAX, THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE WITH THE VALUES THAT I TOLD YOU RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A DEFICIT IN THE GENERAL FUND OF $794,000. AND, UH, OUR, OUR GOAL TODAY AND THROUGHOUT THE NEXT MONTH IS TO GET THAT TO ZERO OR POSITIVE NUMBER. SO WELL HOLD ON, WHAT ARE WE BASING THIS ON? ARE WE BASING THIS ON NO NEW REVENUE? ARE WE BASING THIS ON DI MINIS? IT'S BASED ON NO NEW REVENUE. NO NEW REVENUE. AND THEN ALL ITEMS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED ARE IN HERE. YES, SIR. SO, OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO. OKAY. WELL IT, WHAT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THOUGH IS THE STORM DAMAGE. RIGHT? OKAY. WE'RE ALREADY EXPECTING TO PULL THAT FROM FUND BALANCE. RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, WELL, I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SCOREBOARD, WHATEVER. OKAY. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT OR NOT, RIGHT? WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL TELL US ONE THING AND THEN WE'LL COME UP WITH A LOWER DOLLAR AMOUNT OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO REPAIR WHATEVER. OKAY. UM, BUT THAT'S THE DECISION WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE AT SOME POINT. HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE THOSE DECISION PACKAGES? ARE WE GONNA, I THINK WE MAKE 'EM DECISION PACKAGES, HONESTLY. AND WE CAN DO THAT. AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE STUFF THAT YES, WE HAVE TO FIX AND HAVE TO GET FIXED AND THERE'S STUFF THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, A NEW SCOREBOARD ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN. SO, OKAY. I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. SO WE'LL TELL STAFF TO DO THAT. AND AS IN USING THE STREETLIGHTS EXAMPLE, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WHATEVER THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS, THAT'S TOTAL LOSS. YEAH. WE DON'T THINK IT'S TOTAL LOSS. SO AT SOME POINT WE WILL RATCHET THAT NUMBER DOWN ONCE WE START REPAIRING 'EM AND MAYBE JUST GLOBES AND LIGHT BULBS. RIGHT? AND SO THE NUMBER WILL BE A LOT LESS, AND MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT IN OUR NORMAL O AND M BUDGET. AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF, KIND OF WORK THOSE OVER THE NEXT, UM, COUPLE MONTHS. THE SCOREBOARDS FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'LL BE, I MEAN, IT'S A TOTAL LOSS. AGAIN, WHETHER WE WE GET SOME FUNDING BACK OR NOT, WE'LL DETERMINE WHAT THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE IN FOR THE GENERAL FUND. OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE REQUESTED $10 MILLION WORTH OF PACKAGES. WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO FUND THEM ALL, BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED. SO AGAIN, YOU CAN, UH, SEE THE, THE DEPARTMENTAL RANKINGS IN THE BUDGET SOFTWARE. AND BY THE NEXT MEETING I'LL HAVE 'EM RANKED. I'LL HAVE A HANDOUT TO GIVE YOU. OKAY. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO COLLEEN NOW. ONE QUICK QUESTION, PHIL. UM, I THINK ON THE SECOND SLIDE YOU SHOWED THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW FOR WATER IN GENERAL. YES, SIR. BUT YOU ALSO SHOW WHAT WE'RE LACKING OR WHAT ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE NEED TO DO. ARE THEY INCLUDED IN THAT GENERAL FUND BALANCE? NO, SIR. THOSE ARE EX ABOVE. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH, WHERE'S THAT AT? UH, I'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION IN JUST A MINUTE. I DIDN'T PULL IT. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T PREPARE THAT. I'LL HAVE IT THOUGH. CAN YOU SEND THIS TO US IN EXCEL OR THIS FILE? SURE. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A HARD COPY OF THIS ALREADY? BUT I'LL SEND IT TO YOU ELECTRONICALLY. YEAH, I LIKE GIVE IT ELECTRONICALLY. SO, SO JUST REAL QUICK, UM, YOU'LL SEE COLLEEN AGAIN DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS ON THE NEXT MEETING TO TALK ABOUT HER, HER DEPARTMENT. OKAY. UH, THIS IS REALLY ABOUT JUST OVERALL CITY STUFF. SO, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HR MANAGES IS OUR EMPLOYEE BENEFIT PLANS, OUR PROPERTY CASUALTY PLANS, AND WIND AND FLOOD. SO IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO OUR CURRENT BENEFIT OFFERINGS TO THE EMPLOYEES ARE, WE OFFER TWO HEALTH PLANS. WE OFFER [00:20:01] A PPO AND WE OFFER A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN. AND WE PAY 93 33 PER PARTICIPANT INTO THAT HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN PER PAY PERIOD. UM, TO GIVE THEM A $2,000 A YEAR TOWARD THAT HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN. UM, WE ALSO CONTRIBUTE TOWARD THE DENTAL PLAN A FLAT AMOUNT REGARDLESS OF WHO IS COVERED ON THAT PLAN. SO IF THEY HAVE EMPLOYEE, SPOUSE, EMPLOYEE CHILDREN, WE ONLY STILL PAY $26 A MONTH TOWARD THAT PLAN. AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDE A BASIC, UM, TERM LIFE POLICY FOR ALL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES OF $25,000, UM, A YEAR. AND THAT'S $3 AND 54 CENTS PER MONTH. UM, WE OFFER A NUMBER OF ELECTIVE PRODUCTS TO THE EMPLOYEES, BUT THOSE ARE ALL 100% EMPLOYEE FUNDED. UH, THIS COMING YEAR. UH, WE HAVE CONTRACTUALLY, UM, KEPT THE BASIC TERM LIFE AND VISION RATES THE SAME THROUGH 2026, BUT WE DO HAVE TO GO OUT BID ON THE DENTAL AND HEALTH. AND ON HEALTH THAT IS TYPICAL BECAUSE OF THE MARKETS. OUR CONSULTANT IS RIGHT NOW ESTIMATING ANYWHERE BETWEEN A 20 AND 30% MARKET INCREASE. NOW THEY DID TELL ME, UH, 20% LAST YEAR AND IT CAME IN AT 11, WHICH WAS GOOD FOR US. UM, BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE ESTIMATING RIGHT NOW TODAY. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A JANUARY ONE RENEWAL RATE, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GIVE YOU, UM, ANY SORT OF SEMBLANCE OF A GOOD NUMBER BECAUSE THEY REALLY DON'T START QUOTING THESE, UH, PLANS UNTIL YOU'RE THREE TO FOUR MONTHS OUT. SO I REALLY WON'T HAVE SOLID NUMBERS TILL MAYBE THE END OF SEPTEMBER. UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF CATASTROPHIC CLAIMS THIS YEAR, WHICH WILL IMPACT THE PREMIUMS. OKAY. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WHAT'S OUR HISTORICAL TREND THOUGH? UM, ON COST. MM-HMM. INCREASES. UM, DO YOU HAVE THAT TO THE EMPLOYEE OR TO THE CITY? TO THE CITY? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT I COULD GET THAT FOR YOU. YEAH. GIVE US LIKE THE LAST FIVE YEARS. OKAY. WHAT'S THAT BEEN LOOKING LIKE? OKAY. PRETTY IMPORTANT TREND TO HAVE BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN KIND OF ESTIMATE WHAT THIS YEAR'S GONNA DO. YEAH. LIKE THE YEAR BEFORE WE, WE WERE IN THE, WE WENT DOWN. RIGHT. SO, UM, I'LL GET THAT FOR YOU THOUGH. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT COST. UM, YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE THE TIERS WE OFFER. UM, THE COST OF THE MEDICAL PLAN, HOW MUCH THE EMPLOYEE'S PAYING AND HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING. AND, UH, AS OF THIS SHEET, HOW MANY WERE ENROLLED IN THAT TIER. UM, AND THEN THERE'S AN ANNUAL COST TO THE CITY. UM, THAT'S INTERESTING. YOU WOULD THINK MORE WOULD TAKE, I MEAN, I WISH THEY HAD THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. YEAH, IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN A HARD PLAN TO SELL. UM, USUALLY IT TAKES FIVE YEARS TO SELL, START SELLING THAT PLAN. WELL, AND WE'RE ONLY IN THREE, I THINK WE'RE IN YEAR THREE. SO, UM, WE'VE HAD A STEADY NUMBER OF FIVE TO SEVEN PEOPLE ENROLLED IN THAT PLAN. THAT'S ALL. WOW. UM, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE ESTIMATED MEDICAL PLAN INCREASE, IF WE ARE AT 20% INCREASE. NOW, I WILL TELL YOU, UM, IN MY FIVE YEARS HERE, EVERY CONSULTANT I'VE WORKED WITH HAS SAID WE HAVE A VERY RICH PLAN. I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. UM, WE CHARGE VERY, VERY LITTLE FOR AN EMPLOYEE. OUR, UM, DEDUCTIBLES ON THE PLANS ARE VERY LOW AND OUR MAXIMUM OUT OF POCKETS ARE VERY LOW. UM, AND EVERY YEAR THEY ENCOURAGE ME TO, FOR US TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE AND SEE IF WE WANT TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT. I THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO, WE CHANGED FROM A $0 EMPLOYEE COST ON THE HEALTH PLAN TO 1250 PER PAY PERIOD AT 24 PAY PERIOD. SO IT'S $25 A MONTH. UM, WITH THIS INCREASE LAST YEAR, THE INCREASE WAS NOT PASSED ON TO THE EMPLOYEE. THE CITY ASSUMED THAT INCREASE. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT FOR A COST OF THE PLAN, IT WOULD BE BACK SLIDE. OKAY. 200,000. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND OF COURSE THAT ALL, YOU KNOW, HAS SOME FACTORING IN IF, IF THEY ALL STAY ON THE SAME PLAN, THAT SORT OF THING. UM, IF YOU'LL GO, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS ASKED TO, UM, LOOK AT IS A RETIREE MEDICAL PLAN. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COMPETE WITH THE COUNTY FOR EMPLOYEES AND THEY DO OFFER A RETIREE MEDICAL PLAN. THIS PLAN IS NOT DESIGNED, UM, TO MATCH THEIR PLAN IN ANY MEANS. WHAT I LOOKED AT, UM, WAS A COUPLE OF OPTIONS IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT A RETIREE MEDICAL PLAN AND, AND THAT LITTLE TABLE'S BELOW. SO WE COULD LOOK AT ONLY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ACTUALLY WORKED FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON FOR 20 YEARS. UM, AND AT THIS POINT THAT WOULD BE SEVEN PEOPLE. THE ANNUAL COST OF THAT COVERAGE IS 1 4 7 6 7 7. [00:25:02] NOW, WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE COST OF COVERAGES, THAT CAN BE 100% PASSED THROUGH TO THE RETIREE AND IT MAY BE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN MEDICARE AND THE MEDICARE SUPPLEMENTAL PLANS. AND, UM, IT ALSO WOULD GIVE THEM, IF THEY WANTED TO PAY FOR THAT GAP COVERAGE, IF THEY DECIDED TO RETIRE AT 60 OR BEFORE 65, THEY WOULD HAVE SOME COVERAGE BETWEEN 60 AND 65. UM, IS THIS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY EMPLOYED OR, YES, IT IS ONLY FOR CURRENT EMPLOYEES GOING FORWARD. OKAY. UM, SO ANOTHER MEASUREMENT I LOOKED AT IS 20 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON UP TO AGE 65. SO IF YOU HAD 20 YEARS IN AT THE AGE OF 57, YOU COULD STAY ON THE PLAN TILL 65 AND THAT'D BE 13 PEOPLE. AND THAT IS THE ASSOCIATED COST. THEN IT LOOKED AT 20 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON, UH, AT ANY RANGE. SO AS LONG AS YOU DID 20 YEARS, YOU COULD STAY ON THE PLAN. AND THEN WE HAVE 20 YEARS CITY OF ANGLETON STARTING AT AGE 60. YOU MUST BE 20 YEARS AND 60 TO END OF LIFE. AND THAT'S ROUGHLY WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND THE COST. SO THAT IS SOMETHING, UM, I WAS ASKED TO PRESENT TO YOU FOR YOU TO CONSIDER FOR THE NEW YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT IDEA. THE ONLY THING THAT WORRIES ME IS ONCE A COUNCIL MAKES THIS DEC DECISION, YOU CAN'T JUST TELL 'EM, HEY, YOU'RE ON IT. AND THEN THE NEXT COUNCIL COMES IN AND SAYS, OH, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT ANYMORE. WE'RE GONNA CUT IT. RIGHT. YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO LIKE GRANDFATHER PEOPLE INTO THAT PLAN. THAT'S CORRECT. SO ONCE YOU MAKE THAT DECISION, YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT BASICALLY. YES. AND I MEAN, THE NUMBER COULD CHANGE. IT COULD GO FROM SEVEN TO TWO OR IT COULD GO FROM SEVEN TO 15. IT'LL PROBABLY GO SEVEN TO 15. YOU KNOW, I, I JUST, I DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS, OBVIOUSLY. IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S A RETENTION POLICY, RIGHT? YES. RIGHT. IT'S AN IDEA TO, SORRY, KEEP PEOPLE POINT WITH YOUR CITY. MM-HMM. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT PUSHING THIS, WE'RE JUST RIGHT. PRESENTING ALL THE, JUST LIKE THE SEVEN 14, I MEAN, HERE'S ALL THE VARIABLES FOR RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT AND WHATEVER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE OR THE RETIREE PLAN? DOES IT INCLUDE, UM, JUST ACTIVE EMPLOYEES OR YES. ACTIVE EMPLOYEES ONLY ACTIVE CONTRACTED. ONLY ACTIVE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. SO IF YOU HAVE BEEN A PERMANENT PART-TIME EMPLOYEE FOR 20 YEARS, YOU WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE. AND LIKE I SAID, WE COULD DO A HUNDRED PERCENT PASS THROUGH TO THAT RETIREE. YES. BUT THAT WOULD STILL AFFECT YOUR PREMIUM, RIGHT? IT WOULD, IT IT COULD. IF THEY HAVE CLAIMS THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THE, THE OVERALL PREMIUM TO THE CITIZEN OR, SO WHAT, SO WHAT MY CONSULTANT DID TELL ME YESTERDAY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO FEW THAT MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE UNDER THESE NUMBERS, IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT IMPACT US UNLESS WE HAVE A SERIOUS CATASTROPHIC LOSS. OKAY. SO MOVING ON. SO I WANTED TO GO OVER THE TML PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE. UM, THIS IS, THERE'S TWO NUMBERS UP HERE THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, TRANSPOSED. SO WHERE IT SAYS CYBER, IT SHOULD SAY CRIME. AND WE'RE, UM, SO UNDER THIS TML PROPERTY CASUALTY, THEY, UH, PROVIDE US PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR WIND AND BLOOD AUTO, AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE. AND THEN NON-OWNED AND HIRED. GENERAL LIABILITY CYBER, UH, CRI CRIME LIABILITY WORKERS' COMP, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS, SUPPLEMENTAL GAP COVERAGE, I WILL DISCUSS 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING NEW. CYBER COVERAGE. AND THEN WE PURCHASE WIND AND FLOOD TO A SEPARATE LOCAL AGENT. UM, THE TOTAL PROGRAM ESTIMATE IS 5 1 3 0 2 5. LAST YEAR IT WAS 3 7 9 2 6 9. AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE ADDED A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES AND A MOBILE EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES TO THIS, UH, THIS COVERAGE. AND WE HAVE GONE BACK AND DONE, DONE VALUATIONS. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THE VALUES OF VARIOUS PROPERTIES, UM, TRACTORS, ET CETERA. AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY GONE BACK AND DONE REPLACEMENT COST VALUE. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING A LARGE INCREASE. WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, STATION ONE. WAS IT STATION ONE? YEAH. WAS LIKE VALUE YES. INSURED FOR $400,000. THERE'S NO WAY $400,000 IS GONNA GET YOU, WE PUT MORE THAN THAT IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DID WE INSURE THAT FOR? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER WITH ME, BUT IT WENT UP TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A MILLIONS. YEAH. SO THE OTHER THING IS, IS WE ONLY DID VALUATIONS ON THREE LOCATIONS. SO WE'RE DOING FOUR OTHERS AT THIS TIME. UM, IT, UM, IT MAY INCREASE THAT PROPERTY A LITTLE MORE. SO DO YOU WANT, SO IT'S A REQUIREMENT NOW THAT VALUATIONS ARE DUE, ARE DUE. SO THE REASON WE DID VA PREVIOUSLY IN MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, VALUATIONS ARE DONE LIKE EVERY FIVE TO 10 YEARS. IT'S [00:30:01] EXPENSIVE TO DO THEM. UM, WE HAVE NEVER DONE THEM HERE. AND SO, UM, WE GOT A NOTICE IN FROM OUR, UM, FLOOD CARRIER THAT WITHOUT A VALUATION THEY WEREN'T GONNA GIVE US ANY COVERAGE. SO WE WENT OUT AND DID THE VALUES. UM, WE KNEW THE COST OF WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE. SO WE DID THREE LOCATIONS. AND THEN, UM, I DO DID HAVE EXTRA, UH, MONEY IN ONE OF MY LINES, ITEMS IN MY BUDGET THIS YEAR. SO I'M DOING THE OTHER FOUR NOW. UM, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE BECAUSE THEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR REPLACEMENT COST IS. OBVIOUSLY THE FIRE STATION WASN'T A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. IT WAS A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS. UM, AND WE ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO VALUE PROPERTIES AND AUTOS. AND SO IT'S BETTER TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL TELL YOU WHAT YOUR VALUE IS. SO WE'RE GOING TO, UM, COME BACK IN OCTOBER AND DO A WORKSHOP WITH Y'ALL ON PROPERTY THAT WE MAY WANT TO INSURE THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT INSURED. AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PURPLE WALL AT FREEDOM PARK, YOU KNOW, WASN'T PREVIOUSLY INSURED, IT'S NOW INSURED. UM, BUT WE HAVE OTHER FACILITIES, BUILDINGS, PROPERTIES, WHATEVER. UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO RUN THAT ALL BY YOU TO SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO ADD OR WE'LL RECOMMEND ADD. UM, AND THEN WE'LL GO GET THAT AS PART OF THE QUOTE. AND SO TO KEEP IN MIND TOO IS, UM, JUST LIKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL INSURANCE, YOU CAN BE INSURANCE POOR. SO YOU HAVE TO REALLY PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT IT IS YOU WANT INSURED. UM, THE OTHER THING THIS, UH, NEW PROGRAM INCLUDES IS, UM, WE'RE ESTIMATING AN INCREASE IN CYBER LIABILITY BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE IN THE WORLD, UM, AND A 10% MARKET INCREASE IS ALREADY BEEN OUT THERE IN ALL THE LITERATURE FOR, FOR THE WIND. UM, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FIRST RESPONDER SUPPLEMENTAL GAP COVERAGE. THAT IS $5,000. UM, THAT IS, IF WE HAVE A FIRST RESPONDER WHO IS INJURED, UH, IN THE LINE OF DUTY AND THEY ARE OUT OFF OF WORK, THIS COVERS ANY DIFFERENCE IN THEIR WAGES. SO WE AS A CITY DON'T HAVE TO PICK UP THAT DIFFERENCE. IT WOULD BE UNDER THIS INSURANCE POLICY ALONE. AND, UM, I MEAN I THINK FOR $5,000 I WOULD RECOMMEND IT BECAUSE JUST ONE WORKERS' COMP CLAIM COULD RUN YOU LOTS MORE THAN THAT. DOUBLE, TRIPLE THAT. UM, SO THAT IS ONE THING I WOULD RECOMMEND WE ADD THIS YEAR. AND THAT'S BRAND NEW TO TML, SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT TO YOU THIS YEAR. JUST SO YOU ARE ARE AWARE. UH, JOHN DEPTO, UH, HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH SAFETY. THEY ACTUALLY DECREASED OUR WORKERS' COMP PREMIUM. SO THAT'S BEEN GREAT. THAT'S GOOD. AND AS YOU SEE WIND AND FLUTER ESTIMATES BECAUSE, UM, FLOOD DOESN'T RENEW UNTIL FEBRUARY AND THEY WILL NOT GIVE ME A QUOTE TILL JANUARY AND THEN WIND IS I THINK APRIL AND THEY WILL NOT GIVE ME A QUOTE TILL MARCH. SO UNTIL THE, THAT TIME I'M ONLY ESTIMATING WHAT IT MAY BE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROPERTY AND CASUALTY? HOW'D YOU ESTIMATE THE WIND IN THE FLOOD? 10%. 15? YEAH, I, I ESTIMATED 10% ON THE WIND FLOOD DOESN'T USUALLY TEND TO INCREASE A WHOLE LOT. RIGHT. UM, SO I DIDN'T REALLY, I I PROBABLY MAYBE PUT A COUPLE PERCENT IN THERE FOR MARKET. COLLEEN, YOU MENTIONED THREE, THREE FACILITIES THAT WE HAD. MM-HMM. ON IN FOUR. WHAT ARE THE SEVEN FACILITIES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TALKING, I, I, WE'VE DONE THE WRECK. WE DID CITY HALL, UM, THE ANNEX, ANNEX. I'M DOING UM, ANIMAL CONTROL. I'M DOING, UM, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. RIGHT. AND I'M DOING THE TWO FIRE STATIONS, NOT STATION TWO, STATION ONE AND THREE. NOT THE PD. I'VE ALREADY DONE THE PD. OKAY. DOES THE SUPPLEMENTAL, UM, FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS INCLUDE OUR VOLUNTEER BUYER? IT DOES NOT AS FAR AS I KNOW. I CAN ASK 'CAUSE OUR REGULAR WORKERS' COMP DOES COVER THE VOLUNTEER STAFF. BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR, UM, ITEM I'D HAVE TO ASK, IT WOULD COVER THE PAID ONES THOUGH, RIGHT? IT WOULD COVER THE PAID ONES FOR SURE. OKAY. RECREATION CENTER, WOULD IT COVER THE CHIEF? HE'S VOLUNTEER SO I'LL HAVE TO ASK. IT DOESN'T HELP, IT DOESN'T HELP THEIR ATTITUDE. , WE, WE DO HAVE A POLICY FOR THE VOLUNTEERS THROUGH THE VOLUNTEER SERVICE THAT IS A SUPPLEMENT FOR SOME OF THAT. OKAY. WITH DFIS, SO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PROPERTY AND CASUALTY? UM, WE ARE RIGHT NOW, UM, MAKING APPLICATION FOR THE RENEWAL OF OUR, UM, CYBER LIABILITY. UM, LIKE I SAID, I DO EXPECT THAT TO GO UP. UM, [00:35:02] IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THE NEXT THING I'M BRINGING TO YOU IS THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. UH, LAST YEAR WE DID A 1 3 5 INCREASE. ANYBODY WHO EARNED LESS THAN $40,000 A YEAR RECEIVED A 5%. IF YOU EARNED BETWEEN 40 AND 60 A YEAR, UM, YOU GOT A 3% AND ANYBODY OVER THE AMOUNT OF 60,000 RECEIVED A 1%. UM, THIS YEAR IN THE COST OF THE INCREASES, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE. UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE SAME, THE 1 3 5 IN THE SAME MANNER. UM, OUR, OUR MEASUREMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN YOU MUST BE ONE YEAR TIME AND POSITION. SO I, IF I HIRED YOU, UM, AUGUST 31ST, YOU WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT RAISE OCTOBER 1ST. IT WOULD ONLY BE YOU HAVE TO BE HERE FOR ONE YEAR IN YOUR POSITION BECAUSE, UM, OUR THOUGHT IS YOU SHOULD BE HIRING THESE PEOPLE IN AT THESE RAISES RATE CURRENT RATE ANYWAY. IT MAY BE A GAP WHERE YOU'RE A NEW HIRE MAY MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR NINE MONTHS OR 11 MONTHS. BUT THAT'S HOW WE, UH, HAVE LOOKED AT IT. YOU'RE NICER THAN US. DO YOU TREAT PROMOTIONS THE SAME WAY? SO THAT HAS BEEN, UM, A QUESTION. SO IF YOU GET, WE HAVE IN THE PAST, IF YOU HAVE BEEN PROMOTED, UM, SAY YOU ARE A TECH ONE AND YOU GO TO TECH TWO AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN A TECH TWO FOR A YEAR, WE HAVE NOT GIVEN YOU A RAISE. UM, BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT CHANGING THAT BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENED IS, IS YOU MAY HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR 12 YEARS AND A TECH ONE AND THEY OF COURSE THEY MAKE MORE THAN A TECH TWO ENTRY LEVEL. AND SO WE'VE NOW GIVEN THEM MORE RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL WAGE TO DO THAT. SO WE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. UM, CHANGING THAT A LITTLE BIT. EVERY POSITION SHOULD BE PAID MARKET VALUE SUBJECT TO PROMOTION. YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW YOU GET YOURSELF IN TROUBLE. MM-HMM. . AND YOU'RE NICER THAN, YOU KNOW, I I'M EXPERIENCED BECAUSE WE DON'T GIVE RAISES TO ANYONE UNDER A YEAR AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T MAKE IT RETROACTIVE TO WHERE WHEN THEY DO HIT A YEAR IN THE NEXT BUDGET THAT THEY GET A RAISE, THEY JUST HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT. YES. THAT'S HOW WE ARE DOING IT TOO. WE DON'T MAKE IT RETRO, BUT I DO THINK THAT IF YOU PROMOTE SOMEBODY, WHATEVER THAT POSITION IS, THEY SHOULD BE PAID THE VALUE OF THAT POSITION. SO, UH, TECH ONE TO A TECH TWO, WHAT'S THE MARKET RATE FOR A TECH TWO? AND THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD BE. SO WHAT WE'RE USING IS THE CLASS AND COMP RANGES AS THEY'VE SHIFTED. YEAH. AND IT MAY BE THAT THAT TECH TOO STARTS OUT AT 47,000, UM, AND THEY'RE NEW TO THE POSITION, SO TECHNICALLY THAT WOULD BE THEIR WAGE. RIGHT. BUT THE PERSON'S BEEN HERE SO LONG, THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING 50. TRUE. YEAH. UM, SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. I'VE TALKED WITH CHRIS ABOUT IT, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR, YOU HAVE YOUR MARKET STUDY AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR, UM, MID POINTS AND MM-HMM. AND THAT'S WHAT THE MID POINTS KIND OF HELP YOU WITH, RIGHT? MM-HMM. IS TO SHIFT BETWEEN THE TWO, THE HIGH RANGE AND THE LOW RANGE. MM-HMM. . UM, SO PART OF THE COST OF LIVING UH, WOULD INCLUDE, UM, A MARKET ADJUSTMENT FOR THE UTILITY CLERKS. THOSE ARE THREE, UH, PEOPLE WHO COLLECT THE WATER BILLING. UM, THE AVERAGE RANGE, UM, LEMME SEE, OUR STARTING PAY WAS 31,000. UM, THE MARKET IS ABOUT 33 2 6 5. UM, AND OUR MID RANGE WAS 6 30, 6 5. AND THE MID RANGE IN THE MARKET IS 40. UM, I TOLD, I TOLD CHRIS, WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEONE MAKING WHAT I MADE WHEN I GOT OUTTA COLLEGE IN 1988. SO, UM, I THINK THOSE INDIVIDUALS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND WE NEED TO ADJUST THAT RANGE. UM, THAT WOULD COST US $2,000. AND THEN OF COURSE THE COST OF LIVING INCLUDES THE PD STEP PLAN, WHICH YOU ALL, UH, PASSED LAST YEAR. I WANNA GO BACK TO THIS COLA. SURE. THE 1 3 5 MM-HMM. , I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THE ONE THAT WE PROBABLY SPEND THE MOST TIME TALKING ABOUT. DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE NUMBER EMPLOYEES BETWEEN LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY 80,000, THOSE UNDER 80,000 A YEAR AND THOSE OVER 80,000 A YEAR AND HOW THAT LOOKS? I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. THANK YOU. AND COULD YOU HAVE THE COMP POWER FOR THE, THE COST, SORRY, THE AVERAGE PRICE? SURE. YOU'RE ASKING FOR LIKE WHAT'S THE COST OF THE 1%, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH? THREE. SO I CAN GIVE YOU THOSE FIGURES NOW TO WHAT THE AVERAGES ARE, UM, THAT, THAT TNL GIVES [00:40:01] US FOR THAT POSITION. LIKE, 'CAUSE YOU JUST SAID THAT THE AVERAGE FOR THE UTILITY CLERK IS 33 TO 40 SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE WHAT WE'RE PAYING AND WHAT, WHAT IT COMPARES TO WHAT THE MARKET STUDY IS THAT I GAVE YOU. YES. OKAY. SURE. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, SO THE COST OF THE COLA FOR THE 1 3 5 THIS YEAR WOULD BE 1 32, 9, 8, 7. THAT IS WITHOUT THE STEP PLAN. YEP. UM, THERE ARE 32 UH, POSITIONS AT WHAT WOULD GET 5%, 40 WOULD GET THREE AND 30 WOULD GET ONE. THESE ARE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES ONLY. AND THEN THE COST OF THE PD STEP PLAN WOULD ADD ANOTHER $80,308. THIS INCLUDES 33 UNIFORMED OFFICERS. UH, THEY HAVE THREE VACANCIES. THEY'RE FILLING TWO I BELIEVE AS WE SPEAK, AND 11 TELECOMMUNICATORS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE 1 3 5? YES. IS THE 1 3 5 SUBJECT TO OCTOBER 1ST OR APRIL 1ST? SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS EVERYONE WHO GETS A 5% RECEIVES IT, UH, THE FIRST FULL PAY PERIOD OF OCTOBER WHERE THEY HAVE WORKED FULL A FULL TWO WEEKS IN OCTOBER. UM, AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE DOES THE SAME, BUT IN APRIL, THAT'S HOW WE'VE TYPICALLY DONE IT. OKAY. AND THAT, THAT NUMBER IS BASED OFF OF THAT? OR IS THAT ONE OCTOBER? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS ALL ONE OCTOBER. RIGHT. SO IT WOULD BE LESS IF YOU RIGHT. PAID IT LIKE DONE BEFORE. NOW WE HAVE ALWAYS, UH, WELL NOT ALWAYS 'CAUSE WE ONLY DID IT ONE YEAR, BUT LAST YEAR WE ROLLED OUT THE PD STEP PLAN OCTOBER ONE. WE DIDN'T WAIT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY MADE FOR WAGES TILL APRIL ONE. WHAT IF WE WENT TO JUST A UNIFORM 3% FOR ALL EMPLOYEES? MM-HMM. . UM, I CAN GO BACK AND CALCULATE THAT. I WOULD, I, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, WE'VE BEEN ADJUSTED THE LAST TWO, TWO PAY CYCLES. LAST TWO, EXCUSE ME, TWO, UM, FISCAL YEARS. UM, THAT WAS IN ORDER TO KIND OF BRING UP THE, OUR LOWER PAID ONES TO A LITTLE MORE COMPETITIVE SALARY SCHEDULE. I THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT NOW. I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, EVEN WHETHER THAT'S 3% OR 2% OR 2.5% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING EVERYBODY THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR NOT NOT VALUING ONE POSITION GREATER THAN THE OTHER. I GUESS THIS IS, UM, WHAT I'M THINKING. SO, UM, I DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT, UM, SOME HIGHER LEVEL EMPLOYEES, THE DIRECTORS, UM, AND THIS IS JUST INFORMATION FOR YOU, UM, OF THOSE DIRECTORS, THERE ARE ONLY TWO POSITIONS ACCORDING TO THE MARKET THAT ARE UNDERPAID. RIGHT. ALL OF THE OTHERS ARE AT OR OVER THE MARKET RIGHT NOW. AND I CAN SHARE THOSE WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. I AGREE. AND WE, I'M JUST SAYING WE, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE'LL PROVIDE YOU THE, BUT THAT'S, WE'LL PROVIDE YOU THE DATA. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. I, I MEAN WE CAN DISCUSS AND I CAN SEND YOU ALL, ALL THAT INFORMATION. RIGHT. WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT, CAN YOU ALSO DO, UM, JUST UM, TAKING THE 5% TO 3% AND THE 40 POSITIONS TO 2%? THREE. TWO. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. UM, SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE ON THE COLA. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, OKAY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, THEN I DID PASS OUT TO YOU A SHEET OF THE DAMAGES THAT WERE AS OF FRIDAY. UM, A LITTLE SPREADSHEET. THESE ARE THE DAMAGES RELATED TO HURRICANE BARREL THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO ME SO FAR, AS WELL AS EITHER ESTIMATES TO REPAIR OR ACTUAL NUMBERS TO REPAIR. AND THEN ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE RIGHT IS THE DAMAGE THAT, UM, THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED. UM, THE ONES IN YELLOW ARE, UM, THE ONES THAT HAVE HAD DAMAGE THAT ARE ON OUR POLICY. THE ONES BELOW, BELOW THE GREEN BAR ARE ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT ON OUR WIND INSURANCE. WHAT IS THE ONES THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW? THOSE [00:45:01] ARE THE ONES WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD DAMAGE TO THAT IS GOING TO ACTUALLY HIT, YOU KNOW, YOUR DEDUCTIBLE OR THERE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. LIKE CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE SEWER PLANT MACHINERY? SURE. THAT'S NOT COVERED, RIGHT? OR IT IS ACTUALLY IT IS COVERED. OKAY. IT'S NOT IN YELLOW. AND WELL, WHAT HAPPENED WAS IS THAT GOT REPORTED AS DAMAGED AND THEN THEY GOT IT UP AND RUNNING. SO TODAY IT'S FUNCTIONING. BUT I DID TELL HECTOR THAT, UM, WE HAVE A YEAR TO AMEND OUR CLAIM. SO IF ANYTHING HAPPENS AND WHEN THE ADJUSTER CAME OUT, HE DID SAY HE WAS GONNA LIST THAT ANYWAY, UM, JUST FOR ADJUST IN CASE IT STOPS FUNCTIONING NEXT WEEK. YEAH. UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT HAS BEEN, UM, COMPROMISED. AND THEN, UM, A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK BEFORE HURRICANE BARREL, I PURCHASED A DEDUCTIBLE BUYDOWN POLICY. SO YOU CAN SEE FOR INSTANCE, DAMAGES TO, UH, THE ANNEX CITY HALL STATION ONE AND THE WRECK CENTER. THOSE DEDUCTIBLES HAVE BEEN PURCHASED DOWN TO ONLY $5,000. SO IF WE HAVE DAMAGES, WE'RE GOING TO PAY 5,000. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHERS ARE ALL ON THAT ARE COVERED, ARE BASED ON A PERCENTAGE THAT THE CARRIERS AGREED TO, UM, PUT A DEDUCTIBLE ON. IT MIGHT BE 2%, IT MIGHT BE 1%, IT MIGHT BE 3%, BUT IT'S NO HIGHER THAN 3%. AND OF COURSE THAT'S OF YOUR TOTAL INSURED VALUE. SO I HAVE A TOTAL INSURED VALUE ON THE BUILDING AND THE COMPANY MAY SAY, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A 3% DEDUCTIBLE BASED ON THAT TOTAL INSURED VALUE, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOUR VALUES. WHERE DID WE GET THESE ESTIMATES FROM? UM, THESE ARE FROM THE DEPARTMENTS AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN FROM, UM, JOHN, JOHN DETO. 'CAUSE HE'S DONE A LITTLE WORK WITH THE CONTRACTORS TO GET THEM OUT TO GET AN ESTIMATE ON SOME OF THESE DAMAGES. FOR INSTANCE, THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT ON JAMESON, THAT'S AN ACTUAL QUOTE FROM THE ROOFING COMPANY ON WHAT THEY WOULD CHARGE. THAT WAS, LOOK, I WAS LOOKING AT LIKE FREEDOM PARK, THE TWO SCOREBOARDS AND THE TOTAL DAMAGE IS 24,000. LIKE MOST OF THOSE PARKS AND REC FIGURES ARE ESTIMATES I RECEIVE FROM MEGAN. OKAY. AND, UM, AND THEN THE LIFT STATIONS ARE ESTIMATES I RECEIVE FROM JASON HUBBELL, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, AND DOWN THE LINE, AS YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS YOU MAY WANT COVERED ON WIND INSURANCE, KEEP IN MIND A CARRIER MAY NOT INSURE A SCOREBOARD. IT'S OUT IN THE WIND, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, VULNERABLE, OBVIOUSLY. SAME WITH A STREETLIGHT. WOULD WE LIKE TO INSURE THEM? YES. IS IT, IS IT REALLY FEASIBLE? PROBABLY NOT. IT'S NOT WORTH YOUR, UH, INVESTMENT. THAT'S STATION THREE IS ACTUALLY STATION ONE THAT . OH, OKAY. MOTOR STATION ONE. BUT IT ACTUALLY MAY BE REPLACED, REPAIRED FOR FREE. OKAY. SOMEBODY WANTS TO DONATE SOME SERVICES THERE. OKAY. SO THEN THE FLASHING, IS THAT STILL 5,000? PROBABLY NOT. OKAY. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HURRICANE BARREL DAMAGES? I HAVE HAD AN ADJUSTER COME OUT. HE HAS EXAMINED ALL THE PROPERTIES WE HAVE INSURED. WE ARE AWAITING FOR THE REPORT, UM, TO GO TO TIA AND FOR TIA TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT THEY WILL PAY US. I HOPE THEY'RE FASTER THAN THEY ARE WITH ME. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING I'VE DISCUSSED? OKAY. I WILL GET YOU THE OTHER INFORMATION AT THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. SO YOU GOT A BUNCH OF DO OUTS, UM, AND, AND THOSE CAN BE EMAILS BACK AND THEN, UH, WE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AT THE NEXT BUDGET PRESENTATION. NEXT UP IS NEIL, OR FIRST UP IS NEIL OR FIRST VICTIM? GOOD MORNING. FIRST I WANNA GO THROUGH, JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME, SOME BACKGROUND OF THE FIRE SERVICE IN ANGLETON. KINDA WHAT [00:50:01] WE'VE, UM, WHAT WE DO ON A ROUTINE, HOW, HOW WE, UH, RESPOND AND WHAT WE RESPOND WITH AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO, UM, SOME MEMBER STATS FOR YOU. WE HAVE YOU WERE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE GROUP. WE HAVE ROUGHLY 51 BODIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE FIRE SERVICE WITHIN, WITHIN THE, THE ANGLETON. UM, FIVE OF THOSE ARE FULL-TIME PAID FIREFIGHTERS. WE HAVE ONE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON. UH, WE HAVE, UM, 31 VOLUNTEER MEMBERS THAT MAKES UP THE, THE, THE BULK OF THE, THE, THE BRUTE FORCE, THE GRUNTS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. UH, THREE RECRUIT MEMBERS. THOSE ARE THE NEW GUYS COMING IN THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MOLDING INTO TO ACTIVE MEMBERS. AND WE HAVE, UH, 12, 13, UH, JUNIOR CADETS. THOSE ARE THE, THE, THE JUNIOR PROGRAM THAT WE BRING THOSE GUYS IN FROM HIGH SCHOOL, 14 TO 19. UH, AND THEY WORK ALONGSIDE US. THEY HAVE SOME THINGS THEY CAN DO. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT GETTING INTO THE, THE HAZARD AREAS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PARTICIPANTS IN THE GROUP AS WELL. ALL THE NUMBERS I'M GONNA GIVE TO YOU, UM, GOING FORWARD ARE DEALING WITH THE VOLUNTEER MEMBERS AND THE PAGE STAFF. SO, 2023, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE CALLS IN 2023, WE MADE 978 TOTAL CALLS FOR THE YEAR, WHICH IS A PHENOMENAL NUMBER FOR, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER 978. UH, SHARE THAT WITH OUR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE RUNNING IN THE FOUR HUNDREDS RANGE FOR THE SAME GENERAL, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, E-S-D-E-T-J EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, ESD AREA. WE COVER AS MUCH THERE AS, AS WE DO IN TOWN. IN FACT, OUR CALLS RUN PRETTY MUCH 50 50, WELL, I'M SORRY, 50 50 DAYTIME AND EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS. IT'S ABOUT TWO THIRDS TO ONE THIRD ON THE OUTSIDE THE CITY. SO, UM, WE HAD FIRES OTHER THAN JUST YOUR, YOUR BRUSH FIRE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 92 OF THOSE IN 2311 EXTRA VEHICLE EXTRICATION THAT SOMEONE TRAPPED. UM, VEHICLE ACCIDENTS WITHOUT REQUIRING EXTRICATION WERE 148 OF THOSE. THIS IS AN INTERESTING NUMBER FOR POWER LINE DOWN IN 23. THERE WERE 39, REMEMBER THAT NUMBER? WE'LL GET BACK TO IT. TOTAL HOURS FOR A 2023 WAS 5,979 HOURS. THOSE ARE HOURS ON SCENE WHEN THE TRUCK ROLLS TILL THE TRUCK GETS BACK TO THE STATION. THAT'S WHAT'S COUNTING DOUBLE THAT WHEN YOU FACTOR IN PUTTING A TRUCK BACK IN SERVICE. MM-HMM. TRAINING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND THIS IS PREDOMINANTLY VOLUNTEER GROUPS. SO SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME DEDICATION FOR THESE GUYS. UM, IF NOW I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO 2024 TO DATE, OBVIOUSLY NOT THE END OF THE YEAR. WE'VE HAD 733 CALLS SO FAR THIS YEAR. UM, THIS SAME PERIOD IN 23 WAS 5 0 6. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE 200 PLUS HEAVY ON CALLS. UM, NOW I WILL TELL YOU, POWER LINE DOWN CALLS 203 AGAINST THAT 39. SO THAT'S THE BULK OF THOSE CALLS. WE'VE HAD TWO MAJOR STORM VENTS THIS YEAR, UH, THAT, UH, HAS SENT THAT THROUGH THE ROOF. BUT, UM, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CALLS THIS TIME LAST YEAR, 2023, SAME PERIOD UP TO JULY WAS 29 78. AND WE'RE AT 36, 86 SO FAR THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXPECTING TO BE BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 6,500 HOURS FOR THIS YEAR BY THE TIME WE FINISH UP. SO, UM, AND, AND A LOT, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL OF US PUTTING THIS WORK TOGETHER, BUT, UH, THE VOLUNTEER TIME IS, IS PHENOMENAL WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. AND, AND I HAVE TO ADD, NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PAID GUYS AND THE VOLUNTEER GUYS, WE WORK SO WELL TOGETHER. I, I TRAVEL ALL OVER THREE STATES WITH MY BUSINESS AND I SEE ALL THESE FIRE DEPARTMENTS EVERY DAY. AND THERE IS USUALLY A PRETTY SOLID RIFT BETWEEN VOLUNTEER AND PAID. WHETHER IT'S INTERAGENCY ONE AGENCY, WE, WE'VE GOT A REALLY NICE, NICE MESH AND I THINK THE REASON FOR THAT, PREDOMINANTLY WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WE BRING PEOPLE INTO THE PAID STAFF FROM OUR VOLUNTEER GROUP. SO WE JUST, THAT WE, WE TRAIN THOSE GUYS AND YOU'LL SEE IN OUR, IN OUR BUDGET, WE COVER THE COST OF PUTTING TWO GUYS THROUGH COMMISSION TRAINING SO THAT THEY CAN HIT THE GROUND AND BE A PAID FIREFIGHTER WHEN THE WINDOW OPENS FOR IT. SO THE NICE THING ABOUT THAT IS WE BRING [00:55:01] THOSE GUYS THAT WE WORK WITH EVERY DAY INTO THE PAID STAFF AND IT WORKS REALLY GOOD. SO IT'S BEEN A BIG BENEFIT FOR US. SO, UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON OUR, OUR, OUR APPARATUS 'CAUSE WE'LL, WE'LL COVER SOME OF THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. UH, WE HAVE FOUR ENGINES, UH, A 2021 ENGINE, WHICH WAS, UH, ENGINE FOUR THAT WAS PURCHASED BY THE ASSOCIATION. UM, AND I BELIEVE THESE TO BE ACCURATE. I HAD, UH, ME IN, IN MEMORY DON'T GET ALONG REAL GOOD. SO I HAD TO REACH OUT TO SOME PEOPLE FOR, FOR INFORMATION HERE. SO I'M HOPING I HAVE THESE, THESE, CORRECT. WE HAVE AN ENGINE ONE'S 2013 MODEL THAT WAS FINANCED BY THE ESD AND ENGINE TWO. THAT'S THE, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT ENGINE TWO, THAT'S THAT ONE. IT'S THE PROBLEM CHILD FORCE. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STILL IN THE SHOP GETTING SOME WORK DONE. THAT WAS A 50 50 FORESTRY SERVICE GRANT IN CITY FUNDED. UH, HAS THAT BEEN IN SERVICE AT ALL THIS YEAR? UM, ABOUT TWO WEEKS MAYBE. WE, UH, WE EXPERIENCED SOME ISSUES WITH IT. UM, WENT BACK IN, THEY FIXED THOSE, BROUGHT IT BACK. JOHN O'BRIEN IS THE, THE MAN THAT HANDLES ALL THIS STUFF. AND JOHN IS, IS VERY THOROUGH WHEN IT COMES TO, TO THE EQUIPMENT. AND SO WHEN IT ARRIVED, FIRST THING IT DID WAS GO TO THE FIRE FIELD AND PUMP AND IT PUMPED FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND IT GOT ABOUT, I DUNNO, IT GOT AROUND THE PARKING LOT ON THE WAY OUT AND STARTED SMOKING. AND SO IT WENT BACK AND NOW IT'S, IT'S GETTING AN ENGINE REBUILT. SO AGAIN, SO NOT A PLEASANT AND WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME PRETTY HEAVY CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT ONE. AND THAT'S THE ONE, THE, THE FUTURE BOND. HOPEFULLY WE'LL PICK UP THAT AND REPLACE THAT GUY ALTOGETHER SO WE CAN GET OUT FROM UNDER IT. UM, ENGINE THREE IS A 2000 MODEL AND THAT WAS PURCHASED WITH CITY FUNDS. AND THEN WE HAVE A LADDER TRUCK FOR, IT'S A 2022 CITY BOND PURCHASED THAT OUR TOWER IS PURCHASED IN OH FIVE WITH A CITY BOND. AND THEN WE HAVE RESCUE ONE, UH, AS A 2003 MODEL. IT'S AN OLDER TRUCK, BUT KEEP IN MIND THE OLDER TRUCKS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD TRUCKS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE ELECTRONICS ON THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ENGINES. IT'S REAL NICE. YOU CAN TEACH, UH, A YOUNG GUY HOW TO PUMP A TRUCK, JUST SAY, HIT THAT BUTTON AND YOU WALK AWAY FROM IT. BUT THAT COMES WITH A, WITH A COST AND THAT'S, IF IT GOES DOWN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE STRUGGLING WITH THOSE PIECES. CAN'T HARDLY FIND A FULL MECHANICAL TRUCK ANYMORE. BUT, UH, THERE'S A BENEFIT IN IT. THAT'S WHY OUR O THREE IS STILL IN THE FLEET AND STILL RUNNING BECAUSE IT'S DEPENDABLE. WE, IT RUNS REGARDLESS. SO, UH, OUR 2006 TANKER IS ESD FINANCED AS WELL. SO THE MAJORITY OF OUR, OUR, OUR APPARATUS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN OUR FLEET WE'RE EITHER PURCHASED THROUGH, UH, GRANTS, ESD OR ASSOCIATION. THE CITY'S PICKED UP A SMALLER PORTION OF IT. WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY FOR THAT, THAT FUNDING. SO THAT'S WORKED OUT PRETTY GOOD IN THE PAST. SO THERE'S, THERE'S MY SUMMARY OF OF THE DEPARTMENT. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING SO FAR? SO MOVING INTO THE BUDGET, UM, THE PERSONNEL SERVICES, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WAS, WAS DONE BY PHIL AND, AND, AND, UH, COLLEEN. SO I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO, TO SHOW ON THAT, UH, EXCEPT THAT WE, WE DID INCREASE THE OVERTIME REQUEST ON THAT. 'CAUSE WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A COUPLE OF, UM, OPTIONS FOR THE PAID GUYS. AND, AND THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO GIVE US SOME COVERAGE IN THAT, THAT WITCHING HOUR IS WHAT I CALL IT. IT'S AT THREE IN THE MORNING TO FIVE IN THE MORNING, SIX IN THE MORNING. THIS IS WHEN YOUR VOLUNTEER GUYS, THAT'S THEIR CUTOFF. THEY HAVE TO GO TO WORK. SO THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING BEYOND THAT POINT. AND THE PAID GUYS HADN'T COME INTO WORK YET. SO WE, WE'VE GIVEN THE OPTION FOR THESE GUYS TO COME IN A COUPLE HOURS EARLY IF THE CALL DROPS IN THAT PERIOD SO THAT WE DO COVER THAT, THAT THAT WEAK SPOT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS OVER THE YEARS AND YOU HAVE THAT SAME SCENARIO. YOU HAVE IT IN THE MORNING, UM, HEAVIER BUT NOT AS MANY CALLS. AND THEN IN THE EVENINGS WHEN THOSE GUYS GET OFF WORK, YOU HAVE THAT SAME LITTLE BIT OF A GAP, BUT IT'S USUALLY COVERED PRETTY WELL. SO WE DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT ONE, BUT THAT'S WHY YOUR, YOUR OVERTIME NUMBERS WENT UP A LITTLE BIT. HEY NEIL, LET ME INTERRUPT REAL QUICK. YES. SO JUST, UH, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T FRAME THIS. UM, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING GO, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO LINE BY LINE. THINGS LIKE FICA RETIREMENT INSURANCE, ALL THOSE ARE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT. SO WHEN COLLEEN TALKED ABOUT INSURANCE OR WHATEVER, THOSE ARE ALL PREDETERMINED AND YOU KNOW, I, I TOLD ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO FOCUS ON OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED, RIGHT? THAT, THAT THEY CAN CONTROL. AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE THINGS LIKE RETIREMENT AND INSURANCE COSTS THAT ARE ALL BROKEN OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY CAN'T INFLUENCE. SO I JUST WANTED TO THAT'S FINE. IF I SEE AN ERROR IN IT, I'M [01:00:01] GONNA ASK THE QUESTION. YOU BET. TRUE. NO, I'M NOT SAYING DON'T ASK QUESTIONS, I'M JUST SAYING YEAH, I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND. YOU'RE GONNA SEE LIKE INSURANCE WILL GO UP EVERYWHERE, 10%. THAT'S AGAIN, BASED OFF OF WHAT COLLEEN SAID, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST BEEN INPUTTED ACROSS THE BOARD. CAN YOU REALLY DIVE INTO THE SALARIES THOUGH? THIS PACKAGE OF 170,000, WHAT IS THAT MAKING UP? THAT'S A 46% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR AFTER A 4% REDUCTION IN THE PRIOR YEAR. SO NEIL, IS THAT YOUR, UH, THE BUNKER? YOU ARE LOOKING AT SALARIES, YOU SAID? YES. 1 0 5 SALARIES. SO THAT, THAT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN FROM WELL, BUT YOU HAVE IT AS PROPOSED PACKAGE. YEAH, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE 170,000. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. I'M NOT SURE. SO MAYBE WHAT THAT PACKAGE, LET'S GO TO THE DECISION PACKAGE. OH, YOU KNOW WHAT I DO, I DO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. THAT IS, UH, THE PACKAGE FOR THE, UH, PAPER SHIFT THAT WE INTRODUCED LAST YEAR THAT IT WAS A PACKAGE. AND THAT'S THE, THE FUNDING OF, OF GUYS TO SIGN UP FOR A SHIFT AND, AND MAN THE STATION A PERIOD OF TIME. I THINK THAT'S 4 55 CONTRACT LABOR. IS THAT SO THE GO GO TO THE DECISION PACKAGES? YEAH, IF YOU GO TO THE DECISION, YOU CAN SEE IT AND IT'S BROKEN OUT WITH ALL THE WORKERS' COMP VOLUNTEER ON CALL RIGHT THERE. AND AGAIN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT, UH, WE STARTED KIND OF PUTTING TOGETHER LAST YEAR AS A, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT PACKAGE LAST YEAR. BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT THE INTENT, AND THIS IS JUST A CARRY OVER OF THAT SAME, WHAT CHECKS HAVE I BEEN SIGNING THEN THE THAT IS PAPER CALL, PAPER CALL, PAPER CALL. SO THAT, AND THEN YOU WANNA GO TO, THIS WOULD BE A, A SHIFT WHERE, WHERE GUYS WOULD, WOULD ACTUALLY SIGN UP AND MAN THE STATION FOR A SHIFT, 12 HOUR, 10 HOUR, WHATEVER THE, THE SHIFT IS AND RESPOND TO CALLS OUT. YEAH. SCOTTY PRESENTED THAT LAST YEAR AND THEY, THEY PUT IN, THEY, YOU GUYS REVITALIZED THE BUNKER ROOM, RIGHT? WE DID. WE BUNK BEDS AND YEAH, WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE BUNKS AND, AND, AND, AND PLACED FOR GUYS TO DO THAT. WE'VE, WHICH WE'VE HOUSED, WE'VE USED THAT TO HOUSE, UH, RESPONDERS IN THE AREA DURING THESE STORMS AS WELL, SO THAT IT'S GETTING USED. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT PIECE OF IT IS. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. THE PAY PER CALL, HOW'S THAT BEEN WORKING? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU THINK IS NEEDED TO CONTINUE ALONG WITH THIS? I I THINK IT'S, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU, YOU KNOW, AS VOLUNTEERS, WE LOOK FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T INTERESTED IN ANYTHING IN RETURN. AND, AND YOU HAVE THOSE, THOSE, THOSE DO EXIST. THEY'RE UNICORNS, BUT THEY EXIST AND SO WE GET THOSE. THIS IS JUST THAT LITTLE EXTRA PIECE THAT ONCE A QUARTER, UH, IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, GO TAKE MOM OUT. AND, UH, NOT ON THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'RE NOT TALKING FINANCING A, A HOUSE OR A VEHICLE FOR THAT MATTER. UH, IT IS, WE'RE NOT TALKING BIG NUMBERS, BUT IT, IT IS A LITTLE INCENTIVE TO, TO GIVE BACK TO REIMBURSEMENT COVERS THEIR ROUTINES THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DONATING ANYWAY. SO IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD PIECE. I THINK IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE CURRENTLY YOU'RE PAID IF YOU TAKE THE CALL AS OPPOSED TO THIS WOULD BE, THIS WOULD BE, YOU SIGN UP FOR THE SHIFT. IF YOU HAVE A CALL, YOU HAVE A CALL. THE CALL, YEAH. RIGHT. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UH, YEAH. SET ON IT. BUT THE, THE POINT OF ALL OF THESE IS JUST WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE AVAILABLE IF SOMEBODY CALLS FOR US. MM-HMM. AND, AND EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTION ON, UH, THE PERSONNEL SERVICES? SO THE, UM, THE NEXT SUPPLIES GROUP, SO THOSE, THESE ARE THE ROUTINE THINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THE GEAR WE WEAR, UNIFORMS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. WHICH LINE NUMBER ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WE ARE, WE'RE LOOKING, WE'LL START WITH, UH, 2 0 3. OKAY. UH, THAT [01:05:01] WAS ONLY CHANGED BY $400. JUST ROUNDING NUMBERS AND, AND WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE FORESEEING TO BE COST IN THAT ONE. UM, 2 0 5 NO CHANGE, TWO 10, NO CHANGE. UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES. THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY OUR PRINTER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT ARE FIXED RATE STUFF THAT WE PAY FOR EVERY YEAR. VEHICLE SUPPLIES, NO EXCHANGE. THE EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES WENT UP A DECENT AMOUNT. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IS WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, SHARE THE COST OVER SEVERAL YEARS FOR REPLACEMENT GEAR. AND WE'RE REACHING THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO START BUYING THAT GEAR. SO FIVE SETS OF GEAR PER YEAR SHARED WITH THE ESD AS WELL. SO, UH, TWO THIRDS WITH THE CITY, A THIRD WITH THE ESD ON THAT, JUST SPLITTING THAT COST. UH, AND THAT'S PUTTING US IN FIVE SETS OF GEAR A YEAR. SO OVER THE PERIOD, THE GEAR'S ONLY GOOD FOR 10 YEARS AND WE HAVE TO TAKE IT OUTTA SERVICE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF BACKED UP AGAINST A, IN A CORNER WITH THAT. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN OPTION. WE'VE GOTTA REPLACE IT. SO TO SHARE THAT OVER THE YEARS IS, IS THE REASON THAT WENT UP. OKAY. REAL QUICK TO STOP, JUST NOT ON YOU. THIS IS FOR THE FINANCE TEAM. THE ACTUALS ARE THROUGH WHAT? JUNE OR MAY? THEY'RE THROUGH MAY. OKAY. LINE 2 0 3 APPAREL. YOU'VE GOT ACTUAL OF $6,000 AND YOU'RE ESTIMATING TO BE $4,000 FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. SO THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT. UM, AND THEN I WANT TO GO INTO TWO 20 THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES. YOU'VE GOT, UM, YOU'VE GOT, SO FAR $6,000 SPENT THIS YEAR. YOU ESTIMATED WAS 23,000. SO YOU'RE, YOUR BUDGET SO FAR IS 23,000. YOU'RE EXPECTING TO BE AROUND 22,000. ARE YOU DELAYING ANY PURCHASES OF SUPPLIES? YES. I, I WAS OKAY. PURPOSELY TRYING TO GET MY MIND WRAPPED AROUND THE BUDGET. I WAS, I WAS LEERY TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ABSOLUTELY PULL THE TRIGGER GUY'S GEAR BAD, WE HELD BACK. SO WE HAVE 20, 24 ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO PURCHASE. AND THAT'S, WE'RE FIXING TO MAKE THOSE PURCHASES TO, TO, TO WRAP THAT UP, SO, OKAY. YEAH, YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. WE ARE, YEAH. YEAH. SO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I WAS, I WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE YOU'RE GONNA SPEND AT THIS PERIOD VERSUS SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN ORDERED ALREADY. OKAY. WE JUST HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE INVOICE FOR 'EM. UH, BUT THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL, THAT WAS 100% ON ME TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'VE GOT MY MIND WRAPPED AROUND THE BUDGET. AND I'M NOT SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE, SO. GOT IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON SUPPLIES? 3 0 5, THE DREADED 3 0 5. SO THIS IS OUR REPAIR MAINTENANCE OF VEHICLES. WHAT I DID HERE THAT INCREASED, THIS ONE IS TRYING TO COME UP WITH A, A NUMBER EVERY YEAR. WE GO OVER ON THIS LINE ITEM BECAUSE WE HAVE UNFORESEEN REPAIRS. AND WHEN YOU'RE DOING LOAD FIRETRUCK, IT'S NOT TWO OR $3,000 REPAIRS WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG, IT'S, IT'S EXPENSIVE. I THINK WE HAD A $12,000 AIRLINE REPAIR AND A $21,000 REPAIR JUST THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, A PUMP GOES BAD. THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CATASTROPHIC. THEY'RE UNFORESEEN EVENTS USUALLY THAT TAKE PLACE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE BUDGET SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO TAKE FROM ELSEWHERE EVERY YEAR TO DO THAT. SO THAT INCREASE SHOWS A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UH, OTHER VEHICLE REPAIRS IS WHAT I ALLOTTED 30,000 FOR THAT. AND THAT'S JUST AN AVERAGE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, IN, IN ADDITIONAL COST AND THE, UH, EQUIPMENT AND THE BUILDING'S UNCHANGED ON THOSE. ANY OTHER QUESTION ON THAT? OUR FOUR OH FIVE PHONES, UTILITIES, FUEL EXPENSE, THOSE ARE ALL IN LINE. THE FUEL COSTS ARE ACTUALLY A LITTLE LOWER. I'M SURPRISED TO SEE THE NUMBERS AS LOW AS THEY ARE ON THE FUEL. UM, I DO NEED TO LOOK AT OUR FUEL CARD AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT LETTING SOMEBODY ELSE PAY FOR ONE OF OUR PIECES OF EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING. IT'S CATEGORIZED DIFFERENTLY, BUT I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW LOW THAT NUMBER IS. UM, DUE TO SUBSCRIPTIONS, THAT GOES UP SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT, BUT THAT IS DUE TO THE NEW CAD SYSTEM THAT THE PDS PUTTING IN THE LICENSE LICENSES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THAT, FOR EACH OF OUR, OUR FIRST DUE APPARATUS, UH, WHICH IS LIKE $1,500 PER APPARATUS PER YEAR. YEAH. [01:10:01] SO THAT INCREASES, ROLLED INTO THAT, UH, TRAINING. WE'VE, WE'VE BUMPED THAT OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT, TRYING TO COVER WHAT SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WE, WE GO OVER ON THAT ONE EVERY YEAR. AND WE'RE JUST REACHING THE ASSOCIATION TO PAY FOR IT. 'CAUSE WE NEED THE TRAINING. WE WANT TO DO THAT. SO, KIND OF ADJUSTED FOR THAT A LITTLE BIT ON THAT ONE. CAN WE TALK ABOUT DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS REAL QUICK? YES, SIR. SO YOU'RE GOING FROM 12,023 TO 13,024 TO 30,025? YES, SIR. SO YOU, ARE YOU ADDING MORE LICENSES? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? OR? SO THE CENTRAL SQUARE MDT LICENSE IS A NEW, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN THE PAST. OKAY. SO IN THE PAST, WELL, WHAT THIS WILL DO FOR US, WHEN WE RES ARE RESPONDING TO A CALL, I'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK FROM MY COMMAND ON A SCREEN AND SEE WHAT UNITS ARE RESPONDING, WHICH STREET THEY'RE COMING DOWN, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR ROUTE. BUT ALSO WOULD BE THEORETICALLY BE ABLE TO SEE PD EMS AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE US. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT IN THE PAST. WE'VE BEEN FLYING BLIND TILL WE HEAR, HEAR THE SIREN AND SEE THE LIGHTS. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE, WHERE ANYBODY'S COMING FROM. SO IT HELPS, UH, ON, ON JUST THAT PIECE OF IT. BUT THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD SHARE FROM DISPATCH WE HAVEN'T HAD IN THE PAST, ALL THAT'S BEEN RADIO. THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO CHECK EN ROUTE, CHECK ON SCENE, SEE UPDATES, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. SO THAT'S A NEW, NEW PIECE THAT WE'LL SEE. SHOULDN'T THAT BE A DECISION PACKAGE THOUGH? OR IS WE JUST GONNA ROLL THAT IN? IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S ALREADY IN PLAY FROM LAST YEAR FROM GOING TO THE, UH, THE NEW CAD SYSTEM BECAUSE WE'VE AL, WE'VE, WE GOT WITH THE ESD, THE SD IS COVERING A THIRD OF THOSE LICENSES FOR US. SO THIS IS ONLY THE TWO THIRDS, THE OTHER PARTS COVERED BY THE ESD. AND THEN THEY'RE PAYING FOR CALLS THROUGH THE, FOR THE, THE ESD AREA FOR DISPATCHING SERVICES ON THOSE. I JUST DON'T SEE IT BUDGETED. IT'S NOT IN OUR FISCAL YEAR 24. NO, THIS IS, THIS IS FIRST YEAR. THIS, THIS YEAR. 'CAUSE THE CAD GOES ONLINE, UH, NEXT MONTH ACTUALLY. OKAY. IS WHEN IT GOES INTO PLACE. ALL RIGHT. IT'S WORTH NOTING THE, THE THE 4 55 CONTRACT LABOR, UM, LET'S SEE. THAT ONE COMES OUT ALTOGETHER. THAT WAS THE, UM, WATER, THE RETIREE WATER ROLL, ALL OF THAT STUFF. AND THEN THE ISO REVIEW. AND SO THAT, THAT'S ALL COME OUT. SO WE, THAT, THAT NUMBER'S COME DOWN FROM THAT CONTRACT LABOR IS THE WATER BILL THAT WAS A, YEAH, IT WAS A PROGRAM THAT WAS IN THERE, UH, FOR OLD OR PAST RETIREES. RIGHT. BUT THEY GOT THE WATER AT A DISCOUNT. YEAH. AND SO THAT WE PUT THAT TO CONTRACT LABOR. UH, THAT'S JUST FOR THE CATEGORY IT WAS IN. OKAY. BUT THAT'S GOING AWAY. THAT'S GOING AWAY. SO THAT WAS VOTED ON BY THE VOLUNTEERS OR I, I'LL TALK TO YOU, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU AFTER. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. UH, INSURANCE, VEHICLE INSURANCE. I BELIEVE THOSE WERE ALL NUMBERS THAT WERE PLACED IN THERE BY COLLEEN, UH, THE LAST TWO HOURS. WELL, WE ADDED THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION BASED ON THE NUMBERS WE DISCUSSED FOR THAT. SO THAT'S A NEW LINE. AND THEN THE LEASE PAYMENTS. LEASE PAYMENTS ARE TWO DECISION PACKAGE ITEMS. SO WE CAN TALK, I KEYED THAT PRETTY QUICK. WHAT'S THAT? I KEYED ON THAT PRETTY QUICK. I'M, I'M WAITING TO HEAR ABOUT THIS . SO, UH, DO WE NEED TO GO TO DECISION PACKAGE AND LOOK AT THOSE THROUGH THERE? WOULD THAT BE EASIER? YES, PLEASE. SO THE ITEM RANKED NUMBER ONE, THE, THE PURCHASE OF THE NEW TANKER. THIS IS THE 3000 GALLON TANKER THAT THE ESD IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PAY FOR. UM, WE'RE, WE, AS IN THE CITY, WE'RE FINANCING THE VEHICLE AND IN OUR BUDGET FROM THE ESD, THEY'LL PAY FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS AT 1 98 A YEAR, WHICH IS THE, THE DOWN PAYMENT FOR THE TRUCK. AND THEN WHEN THE TRUCK MAKES DELIVERY IN TWO YEARS, WE'LL FINANCE THE REMAINDER AT THE SAME OR LOWER RATE THAN WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY ON, ON OTHER TRUCKS THROUGH THE SD. SO, UM, THE END, THE END OF THIS IS WE HAVE A VERY FUNCTIONAL TRUCK, UH, 3000 GALLON TRUCK, HIGH VOLUME PUMPING TRUCK THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE AND [01:15:02] WILL BE A, A, A BIG BENEFIT FOR THE CITY. AND THIS ALSO SUPPORTS, UH, THE FUTURE FIRE STATION FOUR UP IN THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT 1000 GALLON TANKER CAN GET DISPLACED UP THERE AS PART OF THAT FLEET SUPPORTING UP THERE. AND SO THIS IS THE END GAME FOR THE CITY IS THAT YOU'RE NOT OUT ANYTHING PERMANENTLY. THE, IT'S ALL PAID FOR BY ESD. THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS THE, UH, THE, UM, COMMAND VEHICLE LEASE. WE, WE DIDN'T CAPTURE THAT LAST YEAR. AND IN MY IGNORANCE OF, OF HOW THINGS WERE GOING THIS YEAR, I DIDN'T JUMP INTO ANYTHING ON THE LEASE PACKAGE THIS YEAR. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT PIECE IS FOR, WHETHER LEASE OR FINANCE, HOWEVER IT'S DETERMINED, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE KEPT THAT DECISION PACKAGE IN THE BUDGET FOR REPLACING COMMAND VEHICLES, WHICH WE, THIS YEAR WE HAD TO PUT TWO TRUCKS, TWO THOSE COMMAND UNITS IN THE SHOP. ONE'S TRANSMISSION, ONE WAS A SUSPENSION ISSUE, BUT PRIOR TO THAT THEY'VE BEEN GOOD TRUCKS. UH, COMMAND ONE. SO THE SUV THAT I DRIVE HAS ONLY GOT 26,000 MILES ON IT. SO THE OTHER TRUCKS ARE GETTING PRETTY HIGH. HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE WE LEASING CURRENTLY IN FIRE, KENNY? NONE, UH, PRETTY FAR TO PROBABLY KEEP IT THAT WAY WITH FIRE. Y'ALL PUT LESS MILES ON VEHICLES. WE PROBABLY KEEP 'EM A LITTLE LONGER. IT'D PROBABLY BE SOMETHING WE'D WANT TO OWN. I MEAN, MY WIFE'S GOT AN EXPEDITION TRANSMISSION NOW. 40,000 MILES HAPPENS. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S, THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO DO IS KEEP THE, THE, THE PACKAGE IN THE FRONT SO THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT, WHETHER IT'S FINANCE OR, OR LEASE, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE GET THE PACKAGE THERE. I AGREE. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN SARTON, IF WE CAN DO A LEASE PURCHASE, NOT, YOU KNOW, FINANCE IT OVER THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS OPPOSED TO LEASE LEASING IT THROUGH ENTERPRISE WOULD BE NICER. 'CAUSE YEAH. Y'ALL DO HOLD ONTO YOUR VEHICLES AND Y'ALL DO PRETTY GOOD MAINTENANCE ON YOUR VEHICLES TOO. WELL, IT, IN, IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE, I, I LEASE FLEET VEHICLES ALL THE TIME AND, UH, WE WOULD DO A, A STRUCTURED LEASE, NOT A, AN ENTERPRISE LEASE BECAUSE WE TOOK THE MAINTENANCE ON OURSELVES BECAUSE THAT'S A, IT'S AN INSURANCE AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MAINTENANCE THAT YOU JUST SPENT THE MONEY, YOU DIDN'T GET ANYTHING FOR IT. AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHERE WE'D BE ON OUR TRUCKS. YOU KNOW, THESE TRUCKS, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT MAINTENANCE HOGS. RIGHT. SO, SO CAN WE LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? SO THOSE NUMBERS THAT WERE, I THINK THEY'RE SHOWN IN THE, I KNOW I'VE GOT 'EM HERE. I WAS THINKING I HAD 'EM IN THE NOTES DOWN THERE. I JUST CAN'T SEE IT. WHAT VEHICLES WOULD YOU BE REPLACING IN? I'M SORRY? WHAT VEHICLES WOULD YOU BE REPLACING? UH, WHAT WE HAD ON THE LIST HERE WERE, UM, THE THREE COMMAND VEHICLES. OKAY. WELL, TWO OF 'EM ARE 2017 MODELS, AND THE OTHER ONE'S A 2018 MODEL, WHICH, THE ONE THAT HAS ONLY 26, THAT'S THE, UH, EXPEDITE OR THE, UH, YEAH, FOUR EXPEDITION. EXPEDITION. IT'S GOT THE LOWER MILES. UH, IS IT RUNNING FINE? IT, IT'S GOT THAT, IT'S THAT ECO BOOST. SO IF YOU'VE EVER DEALT WITH ECO BOOST, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT PROBLEMATIC, BUT THEY, THEY DO SOME FUNKY STUFF EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WITH THAT TURBO LAG AND STUFF IN 'EM. BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A FUNCTIONING RUNNING TRUCK. UM, SO NEIL'S INTERNATIONAL VERSION OF ALL THE COMMAND VEHICLES IS THAT THEY WOULD ALL BE IDENTICAL AND THEY WOULD ALL HAVE THE SAME FEATURES, SAME FUNCTION, SAME CAPABILITY, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME PURPOSE AS A COMMAND, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ALL LUMPED TOGETHER. OKAY. ANY QUESTION OR ANYTHING ELSE? CAN'T FIND THE E-S-D-E-S-D IS ON PAGE 76. AH, THANK YOU. I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IN YOUR DECISION PACKAGE OF THE LEASE PURCHASE, IS THE REVENUE INCREASING ON THE ESD SIDE TO HELP SUPPORT THAT? YES. [01:20:01] I DON'T SEE IT THOUGH. WELL, WE, WE HAD SEVERAL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ESD, UH, FOR ONE, THAT, THAT LINE ITEM FOR THE LEASE HAD A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN IT ALREADY THAT WE WERE PAYING ON A PREVIOUS TRUCK THAT'S PAID OFF. SO WE'RE ONLY INCREASING BY 98 OKAY. TO, TO MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE. AND THEN WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME, UH, SOME OTHER LINE ITEMS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE TO OFFSET SOME OF THAT COST AS WELL. SO THE IMPACT'S NOT VISIBLE ON SERVICE. IT'S NOT A ONE TO ONE. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH, NOT A PROBLEM. AND YOU, YOU SAID THE ESD BUDGET SUBMISSION'S GONNA BE IN LIKE TWO WEEKS FOR YOU OR SOMETHING? IT'S, I, I'M, I'M DUE TO SUBMIT THE SPREADSHEET BY THE END OF THE MONTH, END OF NEXT WEEK. I'LL HAVE TO SEND THAT OUT. IT'S THE SAME CAVEAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS SHARED BUDGET, SO IF THIS CHANGES, THIS CHANGES, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO, TO WEIGH THOSE OUT. SO, 'CAUSE WHAT I TRY TO DO THIS YEAR REALLY IS, IS FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THAT, THAT EVERYBODY GOT THEIR SHARE. AND IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TWO THIRDS RESPONSE IN THE CITY AND A THIRD OF THE ESD THAT WE MAKE SURE THOSE COSTS ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE ON VEHICLES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY. NOT ONLY NEW PURCHASE, BUT ACROSS THE BOARD. SO I JUST, LAST COMMENT I HAVE, BEFORE WE GO TO THE ESD, I WAS JUST ONLY LOOKING AT ESD FOR THE REVENUE TO SEE IF IT OFFSET THIS LEASE PAYMENT. UM, JUST SO WE ARE ALL UNDER ON THE SAME PAGE, TOTAL FIRE IS 900, WAS 946,000 IN FISCAL YEAR 23, YOU BUDGETED ALMOST 2 MILLION THIS YEAR. YOU'RE ONLY GONNA BE AT 9 73. 9 74. SO SMALL INCREASE IN ESTIMATED VERSUS ACTUAL, AND THEN YOU'RE PROPOSING TO GO TO 1.6. DO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU FORECASTED ALMOST 2 MILLION AND CAME IN UNDER A MILLION. DO YOU THINK WE'RE TOO AGGRESSIVE THERE? OR WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WELL, I THINK THE, THE, THE BIGGEST INCREASE, OBVIOUSLY THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT, THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT, BUT THEN THE, THE INSURANCE, UH, AND THE, UH, SALARY PIECE THAT WAS ADDED OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL WERE THE OTHER BIG PORTIONS OF THAT. THE, THE BULK OF THE REMAINDER OF THE BUDGET STAYED THE SAME. AND THE FISCAL FIGURE 24 BUDGET, THAT DOES INCLUDE THE DECISION PACKAGES. YES. RIGHT. I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH OUR SOFTWARE PROVIDER ABOUT GETTING THESE, THE DECISION PACKAGES OUT OF THE BUDGET FOR 24, BUT THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT YET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE, UH, FUND 1 0 7. IS THAT WHERE WE'RE AT? MM-HMM. . SO REAL QUICK, GOING THROUGH THOSE, MOST OF THIS WAS, UM, CONSISTENT. IT STAYED THE SAME WITH LAST YEAR FOR THE, FOR A BULK OF IT, BUT WE SHIFTED A FEW THINGS AROUND TO END UP, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT. SALARY CHANGES THE PACKAGE THERE IS THAT, THAT ONE THIRD, UH, TO THE ESD TO COVER THE, UH, UM, PAPER SHIFT SCENARIO THAT WE PUT TOGETHER IN THE DECISION PACKAGE. THAT'S WHAT IT'S SHOWING. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT SHOWS IN SALARY. AND THAT'S TO COVER THAT COST THERE. UM, APPAREL 2 0 3, UNCHANGED 2 0 5 UNCHANGED. UH, AND THEN TWO 15 AS WELL AS EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES. WE'VE GOT A A 25,000 PACKAGE ON THAT. WE CAN COVER THAT PACKAGE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, I GUESS AS WE GO THROUGH. UM, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF VEHICLES, THOSE ADJUSTED, UH, A LITTLE BIT TO, UM, TO COINCIDE WITH PERCENTAGE OF ESD VERSUS CITY FUNDING. SO THE MINOR CHANGES IN THOSE, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH EQUIPMENT UNCHANGED AND BUILDINGS WERE UNCHANGED ON THAT AS WELL. 4 25 TRAVEL AND TRAINING UNCHANGED. AND THEN THE, THAT CONTRACT LABOR ON THAT 1, 4 55. LET ME SHOW YOU THAT ONE. SEE WHAT DETAIL WAS, I MAY NOT HAVE IT HERE. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THE DETAIL FROM THE BOARD, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT IT. WHAT'S THAT? I'VE GOT THE DETAIL THERE. THAT WAS ROUTINE CONTRACT WORK. THAT'S [01:25:01] WHAT IT WAS. SO IT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S SUCH A SMALL NUMBER, UH, REPAIRS SHARED EXPENSE FOR THAT. IF WE HAVE REPAIRS TO ANY OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT WE HAVE, IT'S A, IT'S AN EXTRA NUMBER. WE COULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THAT. BUT THAT'S PART OF THE ESDS RENDERING OF HOW THAT BUDGET PLAYS OUT. THAT'S ONE THAT'S IN THERE. LET'S SEE, ANY QUESTION ON TOTAL SERVICES, UM, ON THE PERSONNEL SERVICES? WHAT, SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE YOUR REVENUES ARE EX ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MATCHING YOUR EXPENDITURES ON THIS ONE. BUT THE FISCAL YEAR 24 AND FISCAL YEAR 23, YOU RECEIVED MORE REVENUE THAN YOU SPENT OR ESTIMATED ACTUAL WAS IN 23. YES. AND FISCAL YEAR 24, YOU'RE ESTIMATING THE SAME THING. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE EXTRA MONEY? THOSE MOVED TO FUND BALANCE, CORRECT. PHIL? YES. THEN WHAT'S THE FUND BALANCE FOR THIS ACCOUNT? THIS IS WHERE WE, WE HAD THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS LEASE THAT WAS PAID OFF LAST YEAR ON THE TRUCK. THE SAME LINE ITEM THAT WE HAVE FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, NEW TRUCK. THE TANKER HAD A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN IT. SO WE MOVED THAT OVER TO FUND BALANCE. THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND COUPLED WITH THE, THE TWO YEARS OF 1 98 MAKE UP OUR DOWN PAYMENT ON THE TRUCK. SO THAT FUND IS BEING USED JUST ROLLED INTO FOR COUNSEL TO KNOW WHAT THE FUND BALANCE IS ON THIS. YEAH. HOW MUCH IS AVAILABLE? IS THAT WHAT SEVEN 14 COVERS BILL? WHAT HE JUST SAID, LINE SEVEN 14, WE TRANSFERRED TO THE CAPITAL LEASE. YES. SO WE WENT FROM FUND BALANCE TO SEVEN 14, I BELIEVE ON THAT ONE. RIGHT. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE. OKAY. UH, LET'S SEE. SHOULDN'T YOU ZERO OUT THE ACCOUNT THOUGH AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR? YES, BUT YOUR FISCAL YEAR 23 DOESN'T SHOW THAT EITHER. SHOWS REVENUE OF 315,000, FIRE EXPENDITURES OF 237,000. SO I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE A TRANSFER SOMEWHERE IN THERE. SO I THINK WE'RE AT 5 99. MISCELLANEOUS, AGAIN, THESE ARE BROKEN OUT FOR ESD. WHAT'S ONE OF THE, THE, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES IN TRYING TO WORK WITH TWO DIFFERENT BUDGETS IS IT'S TWO DIFFERENT MINDSETS AND THE WAY THEY LOOK AT THINGS. RIGHT. SO CORRECT. IF EVERYBODY WOULD CALL IT THE SAME THING, IT'D BE GREAT, BUT THEY DON'T. SO, UH, TRYING TO, TO A BIT OF A CHALLENGE SOMETIMES. BUT, UH, THIS, THIS AREA INCLUDES, UH, THIS IS WHERE WE, THE, THE ESD PORTION OF THE PAPER CALL THAT WE PAY FOR IS WHERE THAT COMES FROM. AND, UH, RECRUITMENT RETENTION, THAT'S WHERE WE REACH OUT, TRY TO KEEP THE PEOPLE WE HAVE AND, AND, AND GET MORE IN. SO THAT COVERS THE BANNERS, THINGS LIKE THAT FROM THAT EXPENSE. UH, AND THEN WE COVERED THE, UH, CAPITAL LEASE PIECE THERE. AND THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SD BUDGET? SO AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS THE LINE ITEMS. SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS IN THE SD ARE, CAN ITEMS IN THE SD ARE CONTINGENT ON THE CITY'S DECISIONS IN ST. VICE VERSA, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO IF THE SD DECIDES THEY DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE, THE, UH, PAPER SHIFT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S A A, A BIG PIECE OF OUR BUDGET THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THE, THE SDS, THEN IT WOULD AFFECT HOW THAT DECISION PACKET WORKS. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE SCALABLE FOR THE MOST PART. UH, EVEN, YOU KNOW, COMMAND VEHICLES, THE, THE, THE PAPER SHIFT IS SCALABLE. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT IT SET. UH, I THINK FOR THE MINDSET OF, OF TWO OR THREE IN A SHIFT THAT YOU CAN CHANGE THAT TO KEY DAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TUESDAYS WHEN RIGHT, NOBODY'S AVAILABLE, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ADJUST THAT IN HOWEVER WE WANTED TO DO IT AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING WE NEED INFORMATION ON, IS SURE WHAT DAYS YOU NEED, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK PUTTING THE WHOLE THING IN THERE RIGHT NOW OR DELAYING IT INTO THE BUDGET MIGHT BE AN OPTION. UH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. BUT ALSO WE ARE GONNA NEED ESD TO FUND [01:30:01] IT. AND I NOTICED THAT YOUR REVENUES ARE DOWN FROM THE ESD. UM, WHAT I SAW, WHAT YOU PROPOSED FOR THE BUDGET WAS LESS IN REVENUE FROM ESD. THERE'S STILL, I'M STILL WORKING ON THE ESD PORTION OF THE BUDGET, SO THAT MAY, THERE MAY BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN THE NEXT TIME. I KIND OF BRING THAT IN LINE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YEAH, I MEAN, YOU'RE UP YEAR OVER YEAR FROM THREE 15 TO 3 26, BUT YOU WERE BUDGETING 3 57 AND YOU ONLY RECEIVED THREE 20 ESTIMATING 3 26. SO IT SEEMS, UM, SOME QUESTION I GUESS THERE, I I THINK SOME OF THAT WAS WHERE ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE OF THE DECISION PACKAGES LAST YEAR, THAT DIDN'T TAKE PLACE AND IT REDUCED IT. YEAH. SO I WAS, UM, COMMISSIONER FOR THE ESD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IN THE EARLY DAYS TILL MY GIRLS WERE BORN. AND THEN I GOT TO LOOK FOR MY WIFE AND SAID THAT SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE SO THAT, THAT WENT AWAY. BUT, UH, IT'S THE SAME BUDGET FORMAT WITH SOME ADDITIONS AND WHEN I WAS DOING IT THEN. SO WE'LL GET THAT FINISHED UP. ONCE THAT'S DONE, THEN WE CAN SEE HOW THEY LINE UP A LITTLE. IT SHOULD COME MORE IN LINE. WE DO THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE'RE ONLY 15 MINUTES BEHIND MS. GOOD. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF HOW WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PRESENTATION AT ANY POINT. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK US ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT LINE ITEMS. WE TRIED TO KEEP ALL OF OUR DIVISIONS FAIRLY FLAT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NEEDS WE FELT WE NEEDED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OR THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AS NEED SPACE. WE PUT THOSE IN THERE. WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER ON DECISION PACKAGES AS IT RELATES TO SPECIFICALLY PARKS AND THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. WE HAVE ONE FOR RECREATION DIVISION AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE PARKS DIVISION. MORNING, MORNING, MORNING. UM, JUST GO OVER, START WITH OUR BUDGET ON OUR PARKS. BUT, UH, FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, COMPLETED IN OUR PARKS THIS YEAR. WHETHER IT BE THROUGH CONTRACT SERVICES OR ACTUALLY, UM, THE STAFF ACTUALLY COMPLETING THESE PROJECTS. SO, UH, FIRST OFF IS, UH, THE SOLAR LIGHTS WE INSTALLED AT THE, UH, BEACHY P SOCCER COMPLEX, UH, THROUGH FUNDED BY A BLC AND ARPA FUNDS. UM, THE SOCCER FIELD LIGHTS, WHICH WAS FUNDED BY A BLC BOND PROJECT, HAD BEEN COMPLETED DOWNTOWN, UM, DOWNING STREET. UM, TENNIS COURTS WAS FUNDED BY ANGLETON, ISD AND A BLC PARTNERSHIP, DKE PARK SIGNAGE. UM, WE, UH, PARTNER WITH A GSA TO REPLACE FIELD TWO FENCE AT AT BATES SOFTBALL FIELD. UM, AND WE JUST, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, TXDOT, UM, THEIR GREEN RIBBON PROGRAM DOWNTOWN PLANTING THE TREES ON THE MEDIANS, UH, OUT ON HIGHWAY, UH, 2 88, WHICH WAS, UH, UH, K UH, KAB AND INITIATIVE. UH, AND ALSO, IF YOU NOTICE, THEY'VE ADDED GROUND COVER ON THE MEDIANS, UH, DOWNTOWN. SO THAT TAKES US OFF OF HAVING TO MOW THAT AND, UH, ELIMINATES A SAFETY ISSUE WITH OUR PARK STAFF. UH, SO SOME OF, SOME OF THE THINGS THE STAFF HAS COMPLETED IN-HOUSE THIS YEAR IS WE ADDED, UH, FLOODLIGHTS AT THE BG PS UM, PAVILION AREA TO PROVIDE MORE LIGHTING OUT THERE. UH, WE INSTALLED IRRIGATION SYSTEM HERE AT CITY HALL AND AT THE, UH, UH, DICKEY PARK BUTTERFLY GARDEN. UM, WE REMOVED THE KINGSFIELD BACKSTOP, WHICH WAS, UH, PRETTY BAD SHAPE. UH, SO WE, WE MOVED OUT WITH THE HELP OF, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, UM, HELPING US HAUL OFF SOME OF THE MATERIAL. UM, WE PLANTED TREES DOWN AT, ON ANDERSON AND [01:35:01] BER INTERSECTION ALONG WITH, UM, UH, WILDFLOWERS. AND WE, UH, PLANTED WILDFLOWERS AT ALL THE LOCATIONS AT, UH, LAKESIDE PARK. AND WE HAVE COMPLETED SOME, UM, A DA, UH, PROJECTS THROUGHOUT SOME OF OUR PARKS. AND SO, UM, SOME OF THE FUTURE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO COMPLETE THIS YEAR IS WE WANT TO, UM, AT, AT BASE PARK WHERE WE INSTALL THE, THE, THE DRAINAGE, THE PIPING FOR THE DRAINAGE DITCH TO COVER UP THE DITCH. WE WANNA INSTALL SOME BOULDERS THERE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARKING THAT AREA, MAKE IT MORE OF A NATURAL LOOK. UH, AND, UH, WE WANT TO, UH, REPLACE SOME OF THE LIGHTING IN THE, IN THE CONCESSION STAND AREAS IN OUR PARKS, THE PAVILION LIGHTING. UH, AND ACTUALLY IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO NOW 'CAUSE SOME OF IT WAS DAMAGED DURING THE STORM, SO WE WANT TO UPGRADE THAT TO LED LIGHTING. UM, SOME OF THE NOTED EVENTS THAT WE SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS, UH, THIS PARKS AND REC STAFF IS, UH, MARKET, MARKET DAYS CONCERT IN THE PARK, UH, FREEDOM FIREWORKS, HEART OF CHRISTMAS, UH, SPRING AND FALL CLEANUP, JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AND FLAG DAY. SO, UM, REVENUE THAT WE HAVE, UH, UH, UH, GAINED THROUGHOUT THE PARKS FOR US. BAR BALLFIELD RENTALS AND PAVILION RENTALS. UH, YEAR TO DATE, WE'VE HAD, UH, JUST A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FIELD RENTALS AND ALMOST $5,000 IN PAVILION RENTALS. SO, UH, AND THAT'S JUST YEAR TO DATE. UH, SO, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE STARTED DOING THE DOWNTOWN BANNERS THAT, UH, CGI PROVIDES. WHEN WE HAVE THESE STORMS, WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE NORMALLY HAVE DONE IS THEY WOULD BRING THEIR CONTRACTOR IN AND ASSESS THE DAMAGES AND REPAIR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, UH, REPLACING THE BANNERS OR, OR PUT HANGING THE BANNERS BACK UP. SO BASICALLY WE'VE CONTRACTED THROUGH THEM TO DO THAT. AND, AND SO THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, THIS, THIS LAST ARM AND THE, THAT ONE EVENT THAT WE HAD, WE, WE'VE COLLECTED, UH, YEAR TO DATE RIGHT AT, UH, $850 THROUGH THEM. SO WHAT THEY DO IS WE, WE BILL THEM A HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR AND, AND ON AVERAGE OF PUTTING UP THREE BANNERS PER HOUR. SO THIS, WITH THIS LAST EVENT WITH THE HURRICANE, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT $1,200 TO BE BILLED TO THEM ONCE WE GET ALL THE BANNERS, UH, BACK UP. SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON, SO WE'LL GO INTO OUR EXPENSE, UH, ACCOUNTS, UH, THE, WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING THIS YEAR. UM, I'VE GOT HIGHLIGHTED ONES. I'LL GO THROUGH THAT WHERE THE, WE'VE HAD INCREASE, WE'RE, WE'RE REQUESTING INCREASE IN THAT ACCOUNT. IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE OTHER ONES, UH, UH, DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO ASK AN ANSWER. WANT ME TO START ? YEAH. SO ON PAGE TWO, UM, I BELIEVE IT IS OF YOUR WORKBOOK, IS IT? NO, IT'S NOT. MY APOLOGIES. THE EXPENSE FOR PARKS IS ON PAGE 31 31. SO SALARIES, IF YOU LOOK AT SALARIES, IF YOU RECALL, UH, LAST YEAR, YOU'LL SEE A FISCAL YEAR, ACTUAL YEAR TO DATE. THAT WAS WHEN PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY WERE SEPARATE DIVISIONS. SO WE HAVE COMBINED THOSE DIVISIONS. YOU'RE SEEING WHAT WE ARE ESTIMATING AS, UH, YEAR TO DATE ACTUAL AND BASE. I WILL TELL YOU THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR, WHAT WE FOUND DURING MID-YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS IS AN EMPLOYEE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT ASSESSMENT. AND SO, UH, WE, THAT WAS IN YOUR MIDYEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT. A BLC DID. WE WENT TO A BLC FOR FUNDING. THEY AGREED TO PAY FOR 25%. 75% OF THAT WAS THEN, UM, TAKEN TO CITY COUNCIL FOR MIDYEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS INCLUDED THAT EMPLOYEE COME FROM PUBLIC WORKS, MOVE OVER TO PARKS. HE DID NOT, NO, IT JUST WAS A COMPLETE MISS IN THE BUDGET. WHAT WE BELIEVE, WE'VE MET WITH FINANCE, HR, AND CITY MANAGER REGARDING THIS ISSUE, WHAT WE BELIEVE WAS OCCURRING IS THAT, UH, ANY SORT OF VACANCY AT THE TIME OF BUDGETING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IT WAS PUT IN A, YOU KNOW, VACANCY POOL AND IT WAS NOT ALLOCATED TO THE SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAVE MADE SURE THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT WHAT OUR ESTIMATES ARE FOR SALARIES ARE ALIGNING WITH FINANCE. AND FOR INSTANCE, THIS NUMBER THAT'S IN HERE RIGHT NOW, THE 9 0 6 IS A NUMBER THAT WE INPUTTED THE MDSS SOFTWARE AUTO POPULATES OR UPDATES WHAT THOSE PERSONNEL ARE. UM, AND SO WE COMPARE THAT EVEN THIS NUMBER THAT YOU SEE BUDGETED TODAY, WE REMOVED THE MDSS AMOUNT BECAUSE IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER AND WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED [01:40:01] WHY. SO WE KEPT THIS NUMBER IN HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERING ALL OF THE SALARIES THAT WE NEED TO BE COVERING THIS YEAR. OKAY. THIS, YOU SAID YOU'RE PULLING THE RIGHT OF WAY INTO THIS BUDGET, RIGHT? IT ALREADY HAS BEEN. SO THIS FISCAL YEAR WE'VE BEEN OPERATING WITH PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY, CORRECT? CORRECT. I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'M SEEING APPLES TO APPLES. SO THE FISCAL YEAR 24, DOES THAT HAVE IT IN THERE AS WELL? IT, IT, YES. OKAY. NOT 23 AND 20. WHAT ABOUT 23? IS THAT IT'S JUST NOT, NOT CORRECT, BUT YOUR ESTIMATE IS STILL LOWER THAN WHAT YOU PROPOSED. SO WE GONNA NEED THAT FOR NEXT YEAR. WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. WE BELIEVE WE WILL WHEN, IF AND WHEN WE'RE FULL STAFF. SO SOME OF WHAT WE PUT IN THERE IS BASED OFF OF, UM, THE CALCULATIONS THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE HAVE A CREW LEADER, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE, UM, WHEN WE WERE INPUTTING THESE NUMBERS FOR ESTIMATE, WE HAVE TO START, THIS DEPARTMENT STARTS BUDGET PREP IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE WE TAKE A PROPOSED BUDGET TO A BLC IN UM, APRIL. AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE MID-YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS TO FILL BY MARCH. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROPOSED BUDGET TO A BLC IN APRIL. SO IF WE HAVE ANY TRANSITION IN BETWEEN THAT TIME, WHETHER IT'S A CREW LEADER LEAVING OR A VACANCY IN PARKS THAT IS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR AND WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE SALARY, AT WHICH POINT, WHATEVER WE RAISE THEM AT. FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD A CREW LEADER THAT LEFT TO WORK FOR DOW. SO THAT INDIVIDUAL SALARY WHO HAD BEEN HERE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, THAT'S GONNA GET BUMPED DOWN TO A LOWER CREW LEADER, YOU KNOW, ENTRY LEVEL SALARY. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, VARYING NUMBERS IS BECAUSE WE HAVE CHANGES EVEN WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE, THE ESTIMATES. THAT'S A BIG CHANGE THOUGH. IT'S NOT A SMALL CHANGE. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE BASING IT OFF OF WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE, WE HAVE A CALCULATED SHEET OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE AND THE PAY THAT WE HAVE. AND SO WE'RE PUTTING IT IN THERE. THIS IS NOT WITH A COST OF LIVING. THIS IS FLAT BASED OF WHAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING PAID TO TODAY. CHRIS, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT ALL THAT'S BEEN BUILT IN COST OF LIVING AND OR THE 1 3 5 AND FICA AND HEALTHCARE AND ALL THAT. SO THAT, SO SALARIES WERE ADJUSTED, THAT BECOMES THEIR BASE. RIGHT. SO LAST YEAR WE DID A 1 1 3 5 THAT BECAME THEIR NEW BASE. SO IN THE NEW 25, YOU DON'T HAVE THE 1 3 5 IN HERE? NO. OKAY. WE, SO LET ME JUST, I'LL BACK UP A SECOND. THIS BUDGET IS, UM, THE BASE BUDGET IS WHAT WE NECESSARILY, WE HAVE TO DO. YOU KNOW, INSURANCE HAS GONE UP 10%, YOU KNOW, CORRECT. THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN I'LL, I'LL SAY PUSHED ON US, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S IT. THERE IS NO THERE 1, 3, 5, THERE'S NO 3%, THERE'S NO, NONE OF THAT IS IN THIS BUDGET. SO AS WE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, THEN WE WILL GO BACK. THAT BECOMES THEN APPROVED OR NOT. SO TO GO BACK TO THE ESTIMATE, THE ESTIMATE WAS AN UPLOAD BY MDSS. IT DID NOT, UH, JUST TO SHED A LITTLE LIGHT, IT BECAME VERY APPARENT AT MIDYEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT THAT THE, WAS IT FROM OCTOBER TO AT LEAST DECEMBER, UH, PARKS AND RIGHT AWAY WAS NOT PULLED, EXCUSE ME, RIGHT AWAY WAS NOT BEING PULLED FROM THE PARKS DIVISION. SO WE SAID WE WERE GONNA COMBINE THOSE DIVISIONS FROM AT LEAST OCTOBER ONE TO DECEMBER 31ST. THEY WERE STILL BEING PULLED FROM RIGHT AWAY ACCOUNTS. I DUNNO WHY WE KEEP MUDDYING THINGS UP. IT'S HARD TO MAKE AN, FOR US, IT'S HARD TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN WE CAN'T SEE STUFF. CLEARLY MOVING IT IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUDGET DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR US. IT WASN'T MOVED AT THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET. IT WAS THE, THE ERROR WAS NOT MADE, UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUDGET. IT STARTED AT BUDGET SEASON. THAT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN SURE APPROVED AND DONE BECAUSE THAT WAS AN APPROVAL THAT WAS MADE LAST FISCAL YEAR. AND SO THE COMMUNICATION AND THE ERROR WAS NOT IN THE DEPARTMENT, NOT BUDGETING THE APPROPRIATE FUND. IT IS IN THE ACTUAL PULLING OF FUNDS. THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. SURE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR. SO THE ESTIMATE IS, WHAT I'M TRYING TO REFER TO IS AN MDSS ESTIMATE. THAT'S AN AUTO CALCULATED ESTIMATE, WHICH IS INCORRECT INFORMATION BECAUSE IT WASN'T PULLING BOTH RIGHT AWAY AND PARKS DIVISIONS TO BEGIN WITH AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. DOES THE ACTUAL YEAR, YEAR TO DATE DO THE SAME THING? THE YEAR [01:45:01] TO DATE? UH, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO PHIL. WELL, THAT'D BE THE SAME NUMBER. I MEAN, OFF YOUR ESTIMATE, THE YEAR TO DATE WAS PULLED FROM OUR ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE AND THE ESTIMATE, UH, IS CALCULATED THROUGH THE, THE YEAR TO DATE IS JUST A HARD NUMBER THAT'S PULLED IN. THE ESTIMATE IS CALCULATED BY THE MDSS SOFTWARE BASED ON THE WAY THE EMPLOYEES ARE CODED IN THE MDSS SOFTWARE. SO THERE COULD, YOU KNOW, I SWITCHED IT OR A BUTTON DID NOT GET PUSHED TO MOVE THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY EMPLOYEES PARTS. AND WE CAUGHT THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO WE, THAT'S BEEN FIXED, BUT THE ESTIMATE WAS NOT UPDATED BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GO IN AND CREATE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROBLEMS BY RERUNNING THE MDSS PAYROLL INDUCTING BACK INTO SO INTO THE BUDGET, BECAUSE IF I DO THAT, IT WILL EVEN DOUBLE PAYROLL SALARIES OR WHATEVER. SO I JUST DID NOT UPDATE THAT ESTIMATE. I'LL GET THAT UPDATED FOR YOU. ARE THESE THE ONLY TWO DEPARTMENTS AFFECTED BY THIS? IT SHOULD BE, I WILL SAY SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO OUR DIVISIONS, IT'S NOT THE ONLY DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAD DISCREPANCIES WITH THE RECREATION DIVISION AND THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. SO AGAIN, LAST YEAR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS WE SPLIT THOSE DIVISIONS SO THAT SPECIFICALLY A BLC COULD SEE A CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN THESE ARE RECREATION DIVISION PROGRAMS AND OPERATIONS, AND THIS IS THE FACILITY, HOW IT'S OPERATING AND THE REVENUE THAT IT'S RECEIVING BASED OFF OF RENTALS, MEMBERSHIPS, DAILY PASS, ET CETERA. AND SO THAT WAS A SIMILAR DEFICIENCY THAT WE HAD. WE NOTED THAT, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE RECREATION DIVISION WAS STILL BEING PULLED FROM THE ENGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND PART-TIME AND PART-TIME. SO THAT IS A DEFICIENCY AS WELL. SO IF YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE ESTIMATES AND THEY'RE OFF, THAT'S WHY. BUT THOSE WERE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE CAUGHT DURING MID-YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE JOURNAL ENTRY CHANGES REGARDING THOSE THAT DIDN'T IMPACT ACTUAL FUNDS OR WE DIDN'T NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDS, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THE, THE, UH, PARKS PERSONNEL THAT WAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING OFF TOP STATE. MM-HMM. . AND THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO PERSONNEL SALARIES BEFORE WE GET INTO OTHER OPERATIONAL BUDGET IS HEALTH INSURANCE. SO BASED ON HRS RECOMMENDATION, WE DID INCREASE THAT BY 25%. AND THEN, UH, WE WERE ALSO REQUESTED TO INCREASE OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, UM, BY THE HR DEPARTMENT AS WELL. AND THOSE ARE THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES THAT WE HAVE IN PERSONNEL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PERSONNEL, I CAN ANSWER THOSE. OTHERWISE STUART'S GONNA TAKE OVER FOR THE REST OF THE BUDGET. OKAY. WE'LL START WITH, UH, COUNT 2 0 5, WHICH IS GENERAL SUPPLIES. UM, WHAT THIS COVERS IS OUR, UH, SAFETY SUPPLIES, SIGNS, CONES, UM, UH, FLAGS THROUGHOUT THE PARKS. UM, OUR, OUR SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE PARKS, UM, UH, WHAT WE HAD DONE IN THE, IN THE PAST IS, IS OUR RESTROOM SUPPLIES AND OUR PESTICIDES CAME OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT. SO WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR, WE SPLIT THOSE OUT AND CREATED TWO MORE ACCOUNTS, UH, WITH, UH, RESTROOM SUPPLIES AND PESTICIDES. SO WE CAN BETTER TRACK WHAT OUR SPENDING IS ON THOSE, ON THOSE TWO, UH, ACCOUNTS. UM, THIS, UM, UH, SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS TO HELP TRACK THINGS BETTER. UM, THE, UH, NEXT ACCOUNT IS OUR, WHAT IS OUR TWO 12, WHICH IS THE CLEANING SUPPLIES, WHICH IS, UH, $5,000. AND OVER THE PAST, I GUESS COUPLE YEARS, THIS HAS INCREASED DUE TO, WE'VE GOT A FULL YEAR OF LAKESIDE NOW ON, ON OUR, ON, UH, UH, UH, EXPENSES. SO WE KIND OF GET AN IDEA WHAT WE'RE SPENDING, YOU KNOW, AS A WHOLE IN OUR ON FOR OUR CLEANING AND RESTROOM SUPPLIES, UH, WE HAVE HAD, UH, SOME, UH, THEFT IN OUR RESTROOM, PEOPLE COMING IN, STEALING SOME OF OUR SUPPLIES IN OUR RESTROOMS, AND SO, UH, AND DAMAGING SOME OF OUR DISPENSERS. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS AN EXPENSE THAT WE INCUR EVERY YEAR. BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE, UH, TO PREVENT SOME OF THE THEFT WAS WE'VE, YOU KNOW, TAKEN SOME STEPS TO, [01:50:01] UH, HARDEN OUR RESTROOM DISPENSERS IN OUR RESTROOMS, SPECIFICALLY MASTERS AND PARK. SO, UH, AND WE MAY BE DOING THE SAME THING AT, AT BATES PARK, UH, BECAUSE THAT, THOSE TWO ARE THE, OUR HIGH AREAS FOR THEFT AND STUFF FOR, FOR OUR SUPPLIES IN OUR RESTROOMS. SO, UH, AND, AND RIGHT NOW, YEAR TO DATE, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT OVER THE $5,000 WE'RE REQUESTING, BUT I THINK IT, ONCE WE, UH, REDUCE SOME OF THE THEFT AND STUFF, I THINK IT WILL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, MAINTAIN THAT, THAT AMOUNT. UH, WHERE IS THAT, WHERE'S THAT NOW, CURRENTLY AT, IN THE LINE ITEMS AT 2 0 5? IT'S IN 2 0 5. YES SIR. THE 2 0 5, WHICH WOULD CO COVER TWO 12, WHICH IS CLEANING SUPPLIES AND 2 25, WHICH IS PESTICIDES, WHICH WE'RE REQUESTING $1,800 FOR THAT. AND IF YOU ADD THOSE THREE TOGETHER, IT'S A TOTAL OF ABOUT A $2,800 INCREASE FOR THOSE THREE ACCOUNTS. IT WOULD BE HIGHER. AND, UH, BECAUSE LOT OF TIMES IT'S, IT'S MAINLY JUST FOR THE FACT WE GOT A FULL YEAR OF LAKESIDE ON, ON, ON, ON HAND HOW, WHAT WE'RE SPENDING THERE, NOT JUST WITH CLEANING SUPPLIES AND, AND, AND RESTROOM SUPPLIES, BUT ALSO OUR, OUR PESTICIDE TREATMENT, TRYING TO KEEP WEEDS IN CONTROL, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET REQUESTS FROM A D UH, ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN SOME OF THAT AREAS WITH OUR PESTICIDES AND STUFF. SO I'M JUST ASKING, BECAUSE YOUR GENERAL SUPPLIES LINE IS STILL ESTIMATED TO BE LOWER THAN YOU BUDGETED FOR THE YEAR, BUT THEN WE'RE GONNA ADD ANOTHER 5,000 ON TOP OF IT NEXT YEAR. UH, WELL, YOU'RE REDUCING IT ON THE 25 YEAR, BUT YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE UNDER THIS YEAR, I'M JUST ASKING. WELL, I DON'T, I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE UNDER, WE'RE UNDER RIGHT NOW, BUT I STILL, I MEAN, WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, CLEAN SUPPLIES. WE GO THROUGH THOSE QUITE A BIT. SO I, I, I EXPECT US TO, AND WE HAVE SOME DAMAGES IN OUR PARTS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW FROM OUR SIGNS AND STUFF THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPLACE THAT, THAT'S NOT COVERED UNDER INSURANCE. SO THAT EXPENSE IS GONNA BE COVERED OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT. SO I DON'T SEE, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THAT ACCOUNT PRETTY QUICK THIS, THIS LAST AUGUST, UH, WITH SOME OF THE EXPENSES WE GOTTA MAINTAIN FOR THE, UH, FROM THE STORMS. OKAY. SO, UM, THE, UH, FUEL, FUEL EXPENSE, UM, UH, WE'RE REQUESTING 25,000, WHICH IS INCREASE OF, UH, 3,300, UH, DOLLARS. UM, WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE DONE THIS YEAR STARTED, UH, PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, UM, WE, WE NORMALLY SHARED A DIESEL TANK WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE PARTS HAVE THEIR OWN DIESEL TANK, SO NOW WE'RE ABLE TO SPLIT, UH, A MORE ACCURATE COST OF WHAT WE SPEND ON DIESEL. UM, SO WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK THAT BETTER. UH, LAST YEAR WE SPENT, UH, RIGHT AROUND ALMOST $12,000 ON DIESEL. RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT ABOUT $9,000 ON DIESEL NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TRACK IT BETTER. UH, I ANTICIPATE MAYBE GETTING ANOTHER, UH, UH, DELIVERY OF DIESEL THIS YEAR, WHICH RUN, WHICH IS A THOUSAND GALLON, RUNS ABOUT $2,800. SO, UH, I'M HOPING THAT WE DON'T, HOPING I CAN STRETCH IT TILL THE NEW BUDGET SEASON, BUT IF WE HAVE TO FILL IT, REFILL THE TANK, UH, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO 10,000 FOR THE YEAR, BUT IT WILL CARRY OVER INTO THE NEW BUDGET SEASON AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE WILL, UH, SO ANY LESS NEXT YEAR, HOPEFULLY, IF YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE IT THIS YEAR, THEN NEXT YEAR IT'LL BE A LITTLE LESS. YEAH, IT'LL BE A LITTLE LESS. YEAH. IT'LL, IT'LL PUSH INTO NEXT YEAR. UM, THE, UM, UH, SO, UH, ACCOUNT 2 21 IS OUR SMALL EQUIPMENT. UM, IT'S AN INCREASE OF $2,200. AND, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UH, WE NEED TO REPLACE SOME, UH, FROM OUR WEED EATERS AND EDGERS AND, AND BLOWERS, UH, THAT JUST, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE UNREPAIRABLE. IT, IT GETS TO THE POINT IT'S CHEAPER TO REPLACE 'EM THAN IT IS TO FIX 'EM. UH, SO THAT, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT REQUEST. UH, AND, AND ON THE EDGERS, WE'RE ACTUALLY REPLACING ONE AND ADDING ONE. WE ONLY HAVE, CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO EDGERS AND SO, UH, THE GUYS ARE HAVING TO SWAP OFF BACK AND FORTH. SO I WANT TO ADD AN EXTRA ONE INTO THEIR ACCOUNT TO, UH, TO ON THEIR CREWS TO, TO HELP WITH, UH, PRODUCTIVITY. UH, THE 2 25, THE PESTICIDES ACCOUNT, LIKE I SAID, IS $1,800. UH, NORMALLY WE AVERAGE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN 12 AND $1,500. BUT NOW THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE GOT LAKESIDE ONLINE AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, UM, DO MORE TREATMENT THAN, THAN IT IS CHEAPER TO DO THE TREATMENT. IT IS THE MAN HOURS DOING WEED EATING AND STUFF AROUND SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, [01:55:01] UH, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY ACCURATE, UH, UH, ACCOUNT THAT WE, WE SPEND, UM, UH, VEHICLE EXPENSE 3 0 5, UH, IT'S $3,500 INCREASE OF $1,500. UH, THESE ARE DUE TO UNANTICIPATED, UM, REPAIRS TO OUR VEHICLES. UM, IS SOMETHING THAT I, I KIND OF HATE TO ADMIT, BUT WE'RE, IF, IF YOU EVER WANNA MAKE ANY MONEY, TAKE SOME STOCK IN TAILGATES. 'CAUSE WE WE'RE, WE'RE HARD ON TAILGATES AND, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS THAT, UH, I'VE ADDED SOME PROCEDURES TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM. AND SO FAR, YOU KNOW, IT HAS WORKED. BUT, UH, UM, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN EXPENSE. 'CAUSE IF WE HAVE ANY DAMAGES ON OUR FLEET VEHICLES, WE HAVE TO GET 'EM FIXED AND, AND OUR TAIL TAILGATES ARE OUR ACHILLES HEEL. SO, UM, BUT, UM, BUT THAT'S MAINLY THE REASON, UH, FOR THAT EXPENSE. AND, AND WE'VE AVERAGED ABOUT $3,400 A YEAR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS ON, ON THAT EXPENSE, ON, ON CHARGES. I THINK WE MAY BE OVER BUDGET THIS YEAR ON THAT ACCOUNT. SO, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THREE 15 IS AN INCREASE OF $10,000, UH, TO $40,000. UM, THE REASON FOR THIS IS, UM, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR, UM, WE WANT TO REPLACE SOME OF OUR PICNIC BENCHES IN OUR PARKS THAT ARE AGING, UH, TO MEET OUR PARK STANDARDS. UH, WE HAVE SOME AT DICKEY THAT, THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN BAD SHAPE WHEN THAT'S OUR BIGGEST AREA FOR REYNOLDS IS DICKIE PARK. AND SO WE WANNA REPLACE SOME OF THOSE PICNIC BENCHES. UH, WE HAVE SOME AT LAKESIDE, I MEAN, UM, UH, FREEDOM THAT ARE, UH, HAVE THAT PLASTIC COATING ON 'EM, AND THE COATING IS STARTING TO GET RUSTED UNDERNEATH THEM AND PEELING UP. AND SO WE WANNA REPLACE THOSE. AND, AND THOSE PICNIC BENCHES THEY RUN ABOUT, WE USE, UH, OUR PARK STANDARDS. THEY'RE, UM, UH, RECYCLED MATERIAL AND THEY RUN ABOUT 14, $1,500 A BENCH. UH, SO, UH, THEY'RE NOT CHEAP, BUT THEY DO LAST A A LOT LONGER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. UM, I DO WANNA ADDRESS THAT REAL QUICK. OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADOPTED PARK STANDARDS AND I THINK IN A LOT OF CASES IT'S COSTING US A LOT MORE MONEY. I MEAN, YOU HAVE BOY SCOUTS TRYING TO DO EAGLE PROJECTS. WE USED TO DO A PICNIC BENCH AND WE PUT 'EM IN, DIDN'T COST THE CITY ANYTHING, BUT BECAUSE WE'VE PUT THIS PARK STANDARD IN, UH, A, A BOY SCOUT CAN'T DO THIS PROJECT, THIS IS OUTSIDE THEIR SCOPE. SO, I MEAN, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PARK STANDARDS AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO OUR PARKS. I THINK A A PICNIC BENCH WOULD BE APPRECIATED NO MATTER WHAT KIND IT IS. NOW, WOULD YOU NEED TO REPLACE 'EM MORE OFTEN? YEAH, PROBABLY. BUT IS THAT A COST THAT YOU COULD SAVE ON YOUR SIDE AND SOMEBODY ELSE COULD PICK UP OR AN ORGANIZATION COULD DONATE? ABSOLUTELY. SO JUST ONE THING THAT I'VE, I'VE KEYED IN ON IS OUR STANDARDS SOMETIMES ARE COSTING US A LOT MORE MONEY. WHAT DO I, WHAT DO WE WANT OUR STANDARD TO BE? KEEP THAT IN MIND. OKAY. HOW LONG ARE YOU GETTING OUT OF A $1,500 BENCH? SAY AGAIN, SIR? LOT, LOT. HOW, HOW LONG ARE YOU GETTING OUT OF A $1,500 BENCH? WELL, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET, I MEAN, COMPARED TO A WOODEN BENCH, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET YEARS, YEARS AND YEARS OF, I MEAN, WE JUST STARTED USING IT NOW LAKESIDE IS OUR FIRST AREA THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY LIKE OUR PARK, UH, OUR PARK BENCHES. WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE TO, WE'VE UPGRADED OUR PARK BENCHES AT DICKIE TO MEET A DA STANDARDS. SO, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, COMPARED, I MEAN, HONESTLY, I CAN'T GIVE YOU, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A SOLID ANSWER ON THAT, BUT, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, THERE'S GOTTA BE YEARS COMPARED TO, TO WOODEN AND, AND IT WAS 20 IN MANUFACTURING, 20 YEARS IN, IN THE, AND AND SO THE, THE POLY CODED ONE THAT YOU HAD THAT'S GOT RUST UNDER IT AND ALL THAT, OR THAT, HOW LONG, HOW OLD'S THAT ONE? PRETTY OLD. PRETTY OLD. DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THAT? HOW LONG THOSE WOULD'VE THEY, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN OVER SIX YEARS. THEY'VE BEEN THERE SINCE MY TIME, SO YEAH, THEY, YEAH. THEY, THEY MIGHT BE ORIGINAL BENCHES, YOU KNOW. YEAH. THEY, THEY'VE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN WE HAVE. YEAH. YEAH. SO, BUT, AND, AND THE COST ON THOSE, I, I, I WOULDN'T KNOW THE, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WE, YOU KNOW, BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW THE COST. I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT, YOU KNOW, OUR PARTS. WELL COMPARATIVELY, THE, THE CODA ONE VERSUS THIS NEW MATERIAL. DO WE EXPECT A SIMILAR OR A LONGER LIFESPAN OR WHAT I WOULD ASSUME A LONGER LIFE SPAN IN THIS ENVIRONMENT DOWN HERE? YEAH. 'CAUSE ONCE YOU GET MOISTURE UNDERNEATH THAT, THAT RUBBER COATING IT, IT GOES DOWN QUICK. AND THE SAME WAY WITH OUR BARBECUE PITS. MM-HMM. . RIGHT. YOU KNOW, OUR BARBECUE PITS. AND WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRY TO DO IS WE, THE GUYS, WHEN THEY DO THEIR PARK PATROLS, THEY TRY TO CLEAN THE BARBECUE PITS OUT AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE. 'CAUSE YOU LEAVE THAT, THAT, UH, [02:00:01] ASH IN THERE, IT JUST ROTS IT OUT. MM-HMM. . AND LUCKILY WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, FIX SOME OF THE STUFF, REFABRICATED IT, PULL IT OUT, TAKE IT TO SHOT, REFABRICATED IT, AND GO BACK, INSTALL IT, AND WITHOUT BUYING, PURCHASING ANY. BUT LIKE WE HAVE A, AT OUR, UH, BRUSHY BIO, THAT ONE'S COMPLETELY DESTROYED, SO WE GOTTA REPLACE IT. UH, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE, THERE MIGHT BE ONE AT DICKIE PARK THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE. SO SOME OF 'EM WE JUST CAN'T REPAIR, BUT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY LUCKY AND MOST OF 'EM WE CAN REPAIR. SO. BUT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED PARK STAND. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO DO IS, UH, AND, AND I THINK THE BENCHES AND, AND, UH, PICNIC BENCHES ARE KIND OF A, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR BARBECUE PITS, WE USE THE SAME ONES THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN USING. NOT ONLY, UH, DIFFERENCES, LIKE IN OUR, LIKE WHEN WE DID THE, THE FIELD AT, AT BATES, WE WENT WITH A BLACK FABRIC. I MEAN, TO ME IT LOOKS A LOT NICER. IT'S, IT, YOU KNOW, THAN A, THAN A REGULAR CHAIN LEAK FENCE. MM-HMM. . SO, BUT, UM, AND THE OTHER THING COMES OUTTA THE EXPENSES ARE MULCH OR PLAYGROUND MULCH. WE NEED TO, UM, UH, GET OUR, OUR PLAYGROUND MULCH UP BACK UP THE STANDARDS. WE TRY TO DO THAT ABOUT EVERY OTHER YEAR, EVERY EVERY THREE YEARS. WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THIS YEAR. UM, THE, UM, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR A DA REQUIREMENTS TO KEEP THAT UP, UP TO, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A, A, UH, NINE INCH, UM, UH, FALL PROTECTION ON ALL THE, AND AS A YEAR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS GO BY, THAT STUFF JUST GRADUALLY DETERIORATES AND, AND, UH, SO IT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE, UH, REPLENISHED. UH, ARE YOU ABLE TO USE THAT MULCH, THE CHIPPING WOOD THAT THEY'RE USING? NO, IT'S ENGINEERED WOOD BY HER. WE HAVE TO, IT HAS TO BE, UH, CERTAIN, THE, THE CHIPS HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN LENGTH BECAUSE IF THEY GET ALONG WITH THAT, THAT, UH, BECOMES A, UH, UH, PUNCTURE POSSIBILITY IF A KID FALLS. SO THEY HAVE TO BE, THAT'S WHAT I SAY, IT'S ENGINEERED WOOD FIBER. SO YOU HAVE TO, UM, HAVE TO USE, USE THOSE, UH, THAT STANDARD. UM, AND OUR SCHOOL BOARDS THAT ARE, UM, FREEDOM HAVE, ARE OUTTA WARRANTY NOW. UH, THEY WENT OUTTA WARRANTY, UH, BEGINNING OF THE SPRING SEASON, OR END OF THE SPRING SEASON. AND SO, UH, THOSE PARTS FOR THAT ARE NOT CHEAP. UH, WE SPENT ABOUT $1,500, UH, ON REPAIRS TO 'EM BEFORE THE, THE, THE SPRING SEASON THIS YEAR. THEY STILL DIDN'T WORK. THEY STILL DIDN'T WORK. YEAH, THEY'RE JUST, YEAH, I MEAN, THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S A NEVER ENDING. I MEAN, YOU GO OUT THERE EVERY, EVERY WEEK AND WORK ON 'EM IF YOU, YOU KNOW, TO GET 'EM WORKING RIGHT. SO IT'S A NEVER ENDING ISSUE. UM, SO, BUT, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT COVERS, UH, THAT ACCOUNT. OUR, UH, THREE 20 IS, OUR BUILDING EXPENSE IS $6,000 INCREASE OF $1,500. UH, AND THIS IS ALSO DUE TO UNEXPECTED REPAIRS. UH, IF YOU NOTICE THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE LITTLE SMALL FREEZES AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THINGS THAT, THE ACTIONS THAT WE TAKE TO PREVENT ANY MORE DAMAGES AS WE DRAIN THE PIPES AND, AND, AND IN OUR RESTROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THERE'S ISSUES WITH OUR FLUSH VALVES THAT YOU CANNOT DRAIN. AND, AND IF THEY FREEZE, THE FLUSH VALVE MAY CRACK, OR, OR, AND YOU MAY HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE, THOSE THINGS. UH, AND THIS YEAR ALONE, FROM OUR LAST FREEZE, WE SPENT, UM, ON REPAIRS ABOUT $3,300 IN OUR RESTROOMS JUST FOR REPLACING FLUSH VALVES. AND, UM, UH, AND THAT WAS NO, NO PIPE BURST. NONE OF THAT WAS DUE TO PIPE BURST. UH, AND THEN JUST OUR GENERAL REPAIRS WHERE WE HAVE TO JUST REPLACE, UH, VALVES, UH, IS, IS A, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO EXPENSE THAT WE INCUR EVERY YEAR. UM, THIS ALSO COVERS OUR ALARM, OUR, OUR ALARM MONITORING, OUR PESTICIDE TREATMENT FOR THE BUILDING. UM, THE, UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, GENERAL REPAIRS ON OUR, ON, ON THE BUILDING ITSELF. UM, THE, UM, NEXT ACCOUNT WILL JUMP DOWN TO 4 25 TRAVEL AND TRAINING, UM, IS 16 1 37 AND INCREASE OF $3,800. UM, AND, AND WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT THE N-N-R-P-A CONFERENCE IS FALLS TWICE IN ONE YEAR NOW, WHICH IS THIS OCTOBER. IT FALLS, UH, IN THIS, IN THIS COMING BUDGET SEASON THEN, THEN IT FALLS AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER. SO NORMALLY IT'S, WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IT SPLITS IN BETWEEN BUDGET SEASONS, BUT THIS YEAR IT'S ALL COMING IN ON ONE BUDGET SEASON. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAIN INCREASE THERE. AND THEN WE'VE, UH, TEXAS, TEXAS AGRICULTURAL LIFE TRAINING. WE'VE, UH, UH, TALKED TO THEM AND THEY'RE, THEY, THEY'RE OFFERING SOME TRAINING THAT MY GUYS CAN GO TO [02:05:01] THAT, UM, UH, FAR AS TURF MAINTENANCE, UH, TREE MAINTENANCE AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UH, AND THAT'S RUNS ABOUT $1,600 FOR, FOR OUR STAFF FOR TRAINING. UM, ADVERTISEMENT 4 46 IS $1,500, AN INCREASE OF $500. THAT'S, UH, RFPS AND RF QS. AND MAINLY THIS IS TO COVER ABIGAIL, UH, PARK RFP, AND THEN THE, AND POSSIBLE THE DIRT PROJECT, RFP AND, UH, UH, BG P UH, CONTRACT LABOR. UM, THIS IS A NEW ACCOUNT WE CREATED THIS PAST BUDGET SEASON, UH, TO TRACK ANY CONTRACT LABOR THAT WE HAVE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND, AND WE HAVE USED CONTRACTORS, UH, TO REMOVE SOME TREES AND REMOVE SOME STUMPS. UH, WE HAD CONTRACTOR DO SOME SEED PLANTING ON THE DIRT MOUND AT BG P, SO THAT, THAT WENT INTO THAT ACCOUNT. UM, BUT IT'S MAINLY JUST TO HELP, UH, TRACK, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SPEND IN IN CONTRACT LABOR, UH, 5 0 6 VEHICLE. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT? YEP. HAS THAT MOUNTAIN BEEN ALL RIGHT OR IS IT WASHED AWAY? NO, IT'S, IT'S HOLDING PRETTY GOOD. I WAS OUT THERE YESTERDAY AND, AND I NOTICED, YOU KNOW, THE OUTFALL DITCH COMING DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S NOT AS, NOT AS BROWN AS IT NORMALLY IS, SO IT'S HOLDING UP PRETTY GOOD. UH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY LONG TERM PLAN WOULD BE TO UTILIZE THAT. I KNOW IT'S, YEAH, WE NEED, DEFINITELY DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT? WELL, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO GET IT AND PAY TO HAVE IT PUT ON THE FIELDS. RIGHT. UH, BUT WE, WE SWITCHED IT TO THE LIGHTING, AND SO NOW IT'S ON THE BACK BURNER. OKAY. BUT WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING WITH IT. WELL, HAS THE GRASS ROOTED SO THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKELY TO RUN AS MUCH, UH, LOT OF HESITANCY. IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S HELPING, BUT YEAH, IT'S HELPING. BUT MY HERE, HERE'S, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL BE, UH, I SAVE SEED MONEY A LITTLE. I, I, I'LL GIVE YOU MY OPINION ON IT. I'M, MY CONCERN IS THE, THE, UH, NUTRIENTS IN THAT DIRT, BECAUSE WHERE WE HAVEN'T PLANTED ANY DIRT, THERE'S NO, UM, PLANTED ANY GRASS. THERE'S NO GRASS GROWING. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S, IT BRINGS UP ONE OF THIS AG, AG LIFE. WE, ONE OF THE THINGS, WE WENT TO A TRAINING, UH, LAST MONTH, AND ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT IS SOIL SAMPLING. SO I'M GONNA TAKE SOME SOIL SAMPLES FROM THAT DIRT AND TAKE IT, GET, SEND IT TO 'EM AND SEE WHAT, WHAT IT IS. BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO PLAY A BIG PART IN WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN AND IF WE DO THE, THE DIRT WORK. AND HOPEFULLY NO. IF HOPEFULLY IT'S JUST A WIN. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, I, YEAH, FOR MYSELF, WE, WE, WELL, THERE IS A DECISION PACKAGE ON, ON DOING THE DIRT WORK THAT WE'LL DISCUSS A LITTLE LATER. IS, IS THERE A CHANCE THAT SOME OF THE DIRT MIGHT BE NO GOOD TO USE? WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT I SEE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. IF YOU DRY OUT THERE NOW. AND, AND THE NORMALLY WHEN YOU PILE A DIRT UP, IT'S GONNA, GRASS IS GONNA GROW ON IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. AND IT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING. BUT THERE'S THINGS YOU CAN DO TO, YOU KNOW, TO CORRECT IT. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S JUST THAT, MY OPINION IS YOU JUST DON'T WANNA GO OUT THERE AND PUT THAT DIRT OUT THERE AND LEAVE IT, YOU, YOU GOTTA DO SOME THINGS MAY HAVE TO INVEST IN SOME OTHER MIXTURE. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN DO IS TO, YOU CAN MIX IT WITH THE DIRT THAT THERE'S NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING NEXT, MIX IT WITH THE DIRT THAT THERE'S, THAT'S THERE NOW TO RIGHT. WHEN THEY SLOPE THE FIELD. OH, THEY HAVE TO DO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. PROBABLY WILL. YEAH. SO, I MEAN, I STILL THINK THAT IT WILL SERVE ITS PURPOSE EVENTUALLY, BUT YEAH, WE'RE SAYING A LOT ABOUT DIRT, BUT ISN'T THAT PILE LIKE SANDY TOP DRESSING? SO IT'S NOT REALLY DIRT, RIGHT? NO, EXACTLY. YEAH. WELL, DIRT IT IS SAND, IT'S, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. CORRECT. AND SAND DOES NOT HAVE A, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REQUIR YOU'RE RELYING ON WHAT TO GROW THROUGH IT TO JUST TO, YEAH. YOU'RE CORRECT. THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME CLAY MIXED IN WITH IT, BUT MOST OF IT, YES, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT NORMALLY CONDUCIVE TO, UH, TO GROWTH. THAT'S OUR, WE FARM IN IT. YEP. THAT IS, THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. UM, 5 0 6 VEHICLE INSURANCE. UM, IT'S INCREASE OF 1758. UH, AND THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR HR ON, ON OUR VEHICLE, UH, INSURANCE INCREASE. UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ON A, ON A, UH, OUR THREE YEAR TREND, UM, VARIES DRASTICALLY, BUT I THINK IT'S, UM, UH, A 17% INCREASE BASED OFF INFORMATION FROM HR. SO THAT'S BASICALLY, WE GET THOSE NUMBERS. UH, BUILDING INSURANCE IS $10,000 INCREASE OF $10,000. UH, AND, AND WE WAS ALSO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE DIRECTING. ANYTHING, ANYTHING IN THE PARKS THAT, UH, HAS A REPLACEMENT VALUE OF $10,000 [02:10:01] WE WANT TO, SO WE, WE COVERED ALL THAT, THAT WE HAVE INCREASES ACROSS THE CITY DEPARTMENT. OKAY. OKAY. COOL. DO YOU KNOW WHICH BUILDINGS ARE COVERED UNDER THIS ENTRANCE? WELL, SO THIS IS JUST A PLACEHOLDER THAT WE PUT IN HERE CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKSHOPPING THIS WITH CITY COUNCIL REGARDING WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE COVERED. WE JUST DIDN'T WANNA PUT A $0 HERE. SURE. BECAUSE WE WERE DIRECTED TO, I UNDERSTAND, UM, COVER ANY COMPONENT OVER $10,000 IN PARK. SO, ANSWER MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. UH, EMPLOYEE, UH, APPRECIATION INCREASED BY A THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND WHAT WE DID, WE DID A STANDARD A HUNDRED DOLLARS, A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER EMPLOYEE FOR, FOR APPRECIATION LUNCHEONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. UM, THE, UH, 3 35 LEASE PAYMENT, UH, IS, UH, SO, UH, HISTORICALLY THE, THIS IS REGARDING THE MODULAR BUILDING THAT WE HAVE OUT AT THE KOK SITE. UM, HISTORICALLY FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS WE HAVE, IT'S A LEASE PAYMENT HAS BEEN DEDUCTED FROM AN EXPENSE ACCOUNT, A PARTICIPANTS ACCOUNT, WHICH WAS NOT BUDGETED. UH, WE WERE INFORMED IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMING OUT OF A BOND FUND. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN HITTING THE SAME ACCOUNT FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. WE WOULD LIKE TO BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. SO THAT IS WHAT THAT IS. UM, THIS IS THE AVERAGE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. ON THE, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. YOU SAY IT'S BEEN COMING OUT, WHERE HAS IT BEEN COMING OUT? 'CAUSE IT'S NOT ON THAT LINE ITEM IN FISCAL YEAR 23 OR FISCAL YEAR 24. SO IT HAS OPERATIONALLY HIT THE BUDGET, WHETHER IT'S MOVED AT THE END OF THE YEAR FOR MID-YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT. I DO NOT KNOW, BUT WE HAVE BEEN CHARGED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. YOU CAN LOOK TODAY AND WE HAVE CHARGES IN THAT ACCOUNT. WELL, WHY IS IT NOT REFLECTED IN HERE, BILL? UH, LOOK AT MINE. 5 38. FIVE 38 MILLION LEASE. OKAY, SO THAT'S $7,000. THE ONE AT THE TOP? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS VEHICLES THAT'S BUILDING VEHICLES. ARE YOU REFERRING TO 5 35 OR 5 38? 5 35. 5 35 I THINK IS THE LEASE VEHICLES, ISN'T IT? THAT'S, YES. SO, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, NORMALLY WE GET ONE ENTERPRISE BILL, RIGHT. FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. MM-HMM. . UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, BREAKING THAT OUT BY DEPARTMENTS. SO JUST LIKE WE HAD THE MEETING THIS WEEK, LAST WEEK, UNLESS WE MAKE CHANGES TO IT, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER STAYS THE SAME. UM, HOWEVER, WE'RE, AGAIN, WE'RE BREAKING IT OUT BY DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE WE WANT DEPARTMENTS TO JUSTIFY DURING BUDGET WHAT THEY NEED AND WHY THEY NEED IT AND WHATEVER. SO IT'S A ZERO SUM. SO HOW'S THE BUILDING LEASE GOING UP BY ALMOST 10,000 OR 11,000 5 38? IS THAT WHERE YOU PUT IT? NO. SO 5 35 IS THE ENTERPRISE FLEET AND THEN 5 38 IS BUILDING LEASE. AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BASED THIS, I, I CANNOT SPEAK TO WHAT YOU SEE IN MDSS FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 OR 24. I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO WHAT, WHEN WE DO OUR PROPOSED BUDGET, WE'RE BASING IT ON ACTUALS THAT WE SEE HITTING OUR ACCOUNT. UM, AND SO WE TOOK THE LAST YEAR AND THE, UM, CURRENT YEAR AVERAGE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME UP WITH THE 18 240. OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO. SO THAT, THAT BUILDING LEASES THE TEMPORARY BUILDING AT THE SERVICE CENTER. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO IT COSTS US A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO HOLD ONTO IT. YEAH. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE, THE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM. 'CAUSE MEGAN'S SAYING THAT SHE HAD IT IN HER BUDGET, SHE'S HAD AT THE EXPENSES IN THE PAST, THEY, BILL SAYS IT'S 5 38 70 $100, $7,600, AND NOW WE'RE JUMPING TO 18,240. BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT LEASE PAYMENTS 5 35, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. MM-HMM. . SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, IF SOMEBODY CAN GIMME A BREAKDOWN, THE HISTORICAL OF THAT AND WE CAN MOVE ON. SO PHIL, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THAT ON? YES. OKAY. AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO 5 35, JUST SO YOU ALL ARE, ARE AWARE, WHATEVER FLEET VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE WITH ENTERPRISE FLEET, WE GOT AN ESTIMATED CHARGE PER MONTH FROM PHIL. UM, WHETHER IT WAS A TRUCK OR TAHOE, ET CETERA, FOR ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THIS 52 CALCULATION. CAN YOU TELL 'EM HOW MANY? YEAH, WE CURRENTLY, WE HAVE FIVE ENTERPRISE VEHICLES, [02:15:01] TRUCKS THAT WE LEASE. ALL TRUCKS. ALL TRUCKS. YEAH. AND WE HAVE TWO THAT'S THAT ARE CITY OWNED THAT, UM, ARE 2020S, I BELIEVE. CHEVROLETS. YOU GOT A TOTAL OF FIVE OR A TOTAL OF SEVEN? WE GOT A TOTAL OF SEVEN TRUCKS. FIVE ARE LEASED. YES, SIR. AND, AND, YES, SIR. SO, UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES ALL OUR EXPENSE ACCOUNTS. IF YOU HA IF I ONES I SKIPPED OVER, IF YOU GOT QUESTIONS ON 'EM, UM, OH YEAH. I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM OR TRY TO ANSWER 'EM. SIX 15 INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAD. SO THOSE ARE DECISION PACKAGES. YEAH. WE HAVEN'T, WELL, WE HAD IT IN THE BUDGET FOR 24 FOR A MILLION DOLLARS WITH NO EXPENDITURE. RIGHT. WE WEREN'T BUDGETED ANYTHING FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR. YEAH. BUT IT'S SHOWING HERE, IT'S A DECISION PACKAGE FOR, FOR 24. YES. CORRECT. THOSE ARE ALL DECISION PACKAGES, WHAT YOU SAID YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO TAKE OUT. RIGHT? YES. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. AND THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN THE DECISION PACKAGE FOR THIS YEAR? THAT 9 49? SURE. YEAH, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY, YEAH, WE CAN GO INTO THAT. YEAH. WE CAN START WITH, UH, PACKAGE ONE, WHICH IS THE, UH, PROJECT FOR THE FIELD GRADING AT BG P IS FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE THE DIRT SAND FOR GO BACK, UH, FOR IMPROVED DRAINAGE. OKAY. AND THAT'S, THAT'S DOING THE WHOLE COMPLEX, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. THE WHOLE COMPLEX THAT'S NOT BREAKING IT DOWN BETWEEN YEAH. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, I THOUGHT IN THE PAST MAYBE TAKING IT OVER TWO DIFFERENT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE IS YOU ALL ALLOCATED WITH THE A BLC, THE ISSUANCE $250,000 FOR THE LIGHT PROJECT. THE LIGHT PROJECT DID NOT COST $250,000. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE WAITING ON A PROPOSAL FROM HDR TO DEVELOP THE SCOPE OF WORK SO THAT WE CAN BID THIS OUT THIS FALL SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ENTIRE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS AND HOW WE CAN PHASE OUT APPROPRIATELY. SO THIS NUMBER IN HERE IS JUST BASED OFF OF HIS ESTIMATE OF PROBABLE COST FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT, BUT WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF REALISTIC COST ONCE IT GETS BID OUT THIS FALL. THANK YOU. BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST PUT IT AS A FIRST FIELD OR WHATEVER PACKAGE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO ARTICULATE THE WHOLE PROJECT AND AGAIN, HOW WE BREAK IT OUT. AND THEN AS WE DO A PROJECT, IT'S NOT 328,000 ANYMORE, IT'S WHATEVER LESS. RIGHT. BASED ON WHAT WE REQUIRE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SUMMARY RIGHT THERE? OH, IT'S ALL DOLLAR A TRAILER RIGHT THERE? YES. OKAY. UH, PACKAGE TWO IS OUR A DA TRANSITION PLAN. AND, AND THE, THE 1 3 2 800 IS THE COMBINATION OF LAST YEAR'S, UH, REQUESTED FUNDING THAT THAT DIDN'T GET FUNDED AND THIS YEAR'S, SO THAT'S THE, THE BREAKDOWN ON THAT. AND SO WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THAT WORK. NOPE. BECAUSE ANOTHER, WE DID SOME. YEAH. RIGHT. THANK YOU, TERRY. SO ONE THING THAT I DO WANNA MENTION THAT STEWART HAS DONE, AND I HAVE IT PRINTED OUT, UM, IF YOU NEED A COMPREHENSIVE LIST, REGARDLESS IF WE ARE FUNDED FOR A DA, STEWART AND HIS TEAM ARE GOING THROUGH THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. THIS IS FIVE YEAR PLAN. SO LAST YEAR WAS YEAR TWO. THIS IS THIS PROPOSED YEAR THREE. WHATEVER WE CAN MANAGE TO DO IN HOUSE, WE ARE DOING. SO IT MIGHT BE IN YEAR FOUR, YEAR FIVE, WHATEVER WE CAN DO, WE'RE STILL TACKLING. SO JUST BECAUSE WE WEREN'T FUNDED LAST YEAR, UM, AND MAY NOT THIS YEAR, WE'RE WORKING ON WHATEVER A DA COMPONENTS THAT WE HAVE. UM, AND WE CAN UPDATE YOU ON WHAT THOSE ARE. SORRY. YEAH. SO THIS YEAR THE, SINCE WE STARTED A TRANSITION PLAN, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, PARK STAFF HAS BEEN DOING IS GOING THROUGH THERE AND, AND IT'S SOME MINOR STUFF THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK IN THE PARK AND THE EXPANSION JOINT, UH, HAS ROTTED OUT, WHAT IF IT'S CERTAIN WIDTH, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA CORRECT THAT. SO WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THERE CORRECTING THAT. IF YOU GOT ANY TYPE OF, UM, UH, ELEVATION CHANGES IN THE SIDEWALK AT EXPANSION JOINT, WE'VE BEEN CORRECTING THAT. UM, IF, YOU KNOW, UH, DISPENSERS IN THE RESTROOMS ARE CERTAIN HEIGHT, UH, SO WE'VE BEEN CORRECTING THOSE. UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE SOME CON UH, SIDEWALK WORK CONTRACTED OUT SOME WORK AT FOR, UH, AT MASTERSON AND AT VETERANS, UH, AND, UH, BRUSH YOUR BIO. SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN CONTRACTED OUT TO MEET THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE, UH, IN OUR, IN OUR PLAN. UH, SO, BUT, AND WE CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, [02:20:01] UH, COMPLETE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. WE HAVE SOME AT FREEDOM PARK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HOPEFULLY HAVE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR. SO IT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, WORK IN PROGRESS. AND THEN ITEM THREE IS THE STRATEGIC PARK AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN UPDATE. THIS YEAR IS YEAR FIVE OF THAT PLAN. IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT AT YEAR FIVE YOU DO AN UPDATE. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT PROPOSED HERE IN THE BUDGET. UM, AGAIN, THIS ITEM IS IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE CREATE AN ACTION PLAN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. WE HAVE A 10 YEAR ACTION PLAN. CURRENTLY WE ARE IN YEAR FIVE OF THAT. WHAT I DO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IS WE BREAK DOWN WHAT THAT ACTION PLAN IS WHEN WE ASSIGN DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION HEADS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CARRYING THOSE OUT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND THAT'S HOW WE WORK THROUGH THE STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN. WE ALSO UTILIZE THAT NOT ONLY FOR JUST OPERATIONS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, BUT WE USE IT FOR GRANT APPLICATION. SO THIS MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2019 IS FILED WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE. WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED, UM, PERMISSION FROM CITY COUNCIL TO APPLY FOR TWO OF THOSE GRANTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THOSE GRANT CEILINGS ARE, UM, 1.5 MILLION AND 750,000. SO IT BEHOOVES US TO KEEP THAT PLAN UPDATED AND ON FILE WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THAT IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS. THE NEXT PACKAGE IS PACKAGE FOUR IS A ZERO TERM MOWER THAT, UH, WE'RE REQUESTING, AGAIN, THAT DIDN'T GET FUNDED IN LAST YEAR'S OR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT WANTS AND NEEDS. I MEAN, TO ME, THIS IS A NEED. THAT'S A NEED. I AGREE. YEAH. AND SO, UM, I MEAN WE, WE'VE, MY GUYS DO A GREAT JOB OF, OF MAINTAINING THEIR MOWERS. SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU GOT A NEW MOWER? UH, THREE YEARS AGO. HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE TOTAL? WE HAVE EIGHT, NO, THREE, NO NINE. WE HAVE NINE MOWERS. WE HAVE THREE MOWERS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE OVER 2000 HOURS. OH, RIGHT. AT 2,500 HOURS OR GREATER. AND IF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GOOGLE IT. WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE LIFESPAN OF A COMMERCIAL ZERO TURN MOWER, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN BETWEEN 2000 HOURS AND 3,500 HOURS. A WELL MAINTAINED MOWER. THAT'S, THAT'S THE LIFESPAN. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE THE FRAME OR ANYTHING. IT'S THE, IT IS ALL RELATED TO THE MOTOR. YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE A 2013 RIGHT NOW, AND I'VE GOT THE PROCESS MY GUYS GO THROUGH IS EVERY MORNING BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE SHOP, THEY GO THROUGH THEIR MOWER, CHECK THE OIL, CHECK THE BELTS, JUST DO A, WE HAVE A CHECKLIST THEY SIGN OFF ON EVERY MORNING. AND THIS PARTICULAR MOWER, THIS 2013, WE'RE PUTTING OIL IN IT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MORNING THAT WE GO MOW. AND WE CHECK THE COMPRESSION ON IT. THE COMPRESSION IS ON THE LOWER END OF, OF, OF THE SPECTRUM. MM-HMM. . AND, UM, THE OTHER TWO MOWERS ARE 2000 SEVENTEENS. AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THIS 2013 USED TO BE A SPARE. SO WHEN WE ADDED THE EMPLOYEE AT LAKESIDE, WE, WE HAD TO BRING THAT ONE BACK INTO, UH, BACK INTO SERVICE. SO IT HAS LESS HOURS, IT'S JUST LONGER YEARS, YOU KNOW, SO, AND, AND IT, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT, YOU DON'T GO BY YEARS. YOU GO BY HOURS. SO, MM-HMM. . UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAVE, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE OTHER ONES, BUT IT'S JUST ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ROUTINE, JUST WEAR AND TEAR THINGS THAT WE, WE SPEND MONEY ON. UH, BUT THIS PARTICULAR MOW, I MEAN, UM, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED IF IT LAYS DOWN, THEN WE'RE OUTTA MOWER AND THEN WE'RE OUR PRODUCT PRODUCTIVITY DROPS. I THINK IT'S LETTING YOU KNOW, IT'S FIXING TO LAY DOWN, SIR. I THINK IT'S LETTING YOU KNOW IT'S FIXING LAY DOWN. YEAH, EXACTLY. 'CAUSE I MEAN, WE'RE PUTTING AT LEAST A HALF A HALF AQUAR OF OIL IN ALMOST THREE, THREE TIMES FOUR TIMES A WEEK. HOLD UP. WHAT ARE YOU GETTING FOR $13,000? IT'S A, A 72 INCH CUT FROM WHO? UH, JOHN DEERE. IT, A JOHN DEERE, UH, FROST ONE THAT'S CLOSE TO 20. WELL, YOU CAN GET 'EM. YEAH. YOU CAN GET 'EM FROM 20, YOU CAN GET, I LIKE WHEN YOU GET 'EM FOR 13 . YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN GET, WE CAN GET, I LIKE WHEN YOU GET, WE CAN GET THOSE. WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AND, BUT THIS IS THROUGH BUYBOARD TOO. THIS IS A BUYBOARD PRICE, SO, SO THAT HELPS TOO. SO, UM, BUT MY GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN EACH, EACH CREW HAVE 2 72 INCH CUTS AND ONE 60 INCH CUT. THE, THE DEAL, THE DEAL I'LL LOOK AT WITH THIS IS WHEN I WAS PRICING THESE FOR MYSELF, UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU WIND UP WITH A, WITH A SIX FOOT DECK ON ONE OF THE SEVEN SERIES MOWERS WITH LESS HORSEPOWER, YOU PUT MORE LOAD ON THE ENGINE, YOU WIND UP WITH A CLAPPED OUT MOWER IN, IN A, IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. YEAH. SO YOU, WHERE YOU SPEND 13 FIVE, UH, SOMETIMES MOVING UP TO THE NEXT SERIES WITH MORE HORSEPOWER EXTENDS [02:25:01] THE LIFE OF YOUR MOWER. RIGHT. WHILE ONLY ADDING A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH JOHN DEERE. I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TWO, TWO OTHER MOWERS. I WON'T, I WON'T NAME THE MANUFACTURER THAT I CAN TAKE TO JUNKYARD RIGHT NOW. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE PART A K DOES IT? NO. OKAY. . UH, BUT, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, AND, AND WE'VE KIND OF, WE'VE KIND OF USED THIS MOW ON OUR ROW CREW. 'CAUSE THEY, THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY'RE MOWING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, PARK SKIES ARE GOING ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE START TO CYCLE AND START OVER AGAIN. WHERE I, MY ROW CREW, I TRY TO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ELIMINATE SOME OF THE MOWING SPOTS TO WHERE WE'RE NOT MOWING THEM EVERY SINGLE WEEK. YOU KNOW, SPREAD IT OUT, YOU KNOW, ONLY AS NEEDED BASIS. SO, BUT, UM, WELL, AND ONE OTHER THING ON THOSE MOWERS TOO IS, UH, WITH, UH, WITH REGARD TO BLADE TIP SPEED, WHEN YOU'RE MOVING, IF YOU'VE GOT TALLER GRASS THAT YOU'RE CUTTING, AGAIN, A LOWER POWERED MOWER, YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE STUFF BEHIND. YEAH. IN SOME CASES, IF YOU'RE SWITCH, IF YOU'RE SWITCHING TO A 54 INCH WITH THE SAME POWER, YOU CAN MOVE FASTER. YOU END UP CUTTING MORE GRASS WITH IT THAN YOU WOULD WITH THE 60 INCH. YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RUNNING TO RIGHT NOW. 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T MOWED, I THINK WE MOWED LAKESIDE AND WE MOWED DIRECT CENTER SINCE, SINCE THE STORM. MM-HMM. AND THAT'S IT. WE HAVEN'T MOWED ANYTHING ELSE. AND WHEN WE, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET BACK MONDAY, BUT, OR TUESDAY. BUT THAT'S THE POINT. RAISE YOUR MOW DECK UP. MM-HMM. TO, 'CAUSE I'M SORRY, 60 INCH. I, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 70 TWOS. YEAH. SO, BUT ANYWAY, WE DO IT AT 13.5. AND I, I, I AGREE THOUGH THAT IF YOU CAN GO UP TO THE NEXT SERIES, MAYBE WE, WE LOOK AT THAT. BUT I DO A STRONGER UNIT. THIS ISN'T GONNA INCREASE YOUR MOWING CAPACITY. THIS IS JUST GONNA REPLACE A MOWER THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE FLEET. AND YOU'RE GONNA KEEP THE OTHER ONE AS A SPARE, THE OLD ONE AS A SPARE CON, OR YOU JUST GONNA RETIRE IT COMPLETELY. I MAY JUST, I MAY AUCTION IT OFF. OKAY. YEAH. I DON'T, I MEAN, YEAH, SO THERE'S SOME REVENUE COMING. WE, IF WE NEED ONE. HECTOR'S ALWAYS BEEN GOOD. THEY, THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE USED ONE OF THEIR ZERO TURNS IF WE WERE DOWN ONE. SO THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN GOOD ABOUT LETTING US DO THAT. SO, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE, THE ON THAT PACKAGE. OKAY. UH, PACKAGE FIVE IS AGAIN, IS A 20 FOOT TRAILER THAT DIDN'T GET FUNDED THIS PAST YEAR. AND THAT, THAT WOULD HELP OUR, OUR ROW CREW. CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE, THREE STAFF ON OUR ROW CREW AND, AND A 16 FOOT TRAILER. SO, UH, THEY'RE LIMITED ON, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THREE, THREE, UH, MOWERS ON THAT TRAILER. UH, IT PLAYS A BIG PART WHEN WE, WHEN WE MOW THE LOOP AND WE MOW THE HIGHWAY. UH, 'CAUSE WHEN WE, ESPECIALLY THE HIGHWAY, WHEN WE MOW THE HIGHWAY AROUND ALL THE TREES, I SENT EVERY, ALL THE CREWS OUT THERE, NOT JUST ONE. I SENT 'EM ALL OUT THERE. SO, AND, AND SO THIS CREW IS ONLY ABLE TO CARRY TWO MOWERS, YOU KNOW? UM, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, TO ME IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A NEED FOR US FOR PRODUCTIVITY. UH, AND, AND, UH, SO, AND, UM, BUT OKAY. YEAH. IS, UM, A, UH, THE SYNAPSIS, UH, CONTROLS AND, AND LIKE I SAID, WE TALK ABOUT NEEDS AND WANTS. THESE ARE THE, THE NEXT PACKAGES ARE WANTS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT, UH, WE'RE JUST PRESENTING TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE, YOU KNOW, SO SYNAPSIS IS BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE LIGHTING, UH, OFFSITE THROUGH THE WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULING. LIKE RIGHT NOW WITH THEIR BASE PARK AND, AND, UH, BG P PARK, WE'RE ABLE TO SCHEDULE THOSE ON THE COMPUTER. UH, AND, AND I DON'T HAVE TO SEND A GUY OUT THERE ON A FRIDAY NIGHT TO TURN THE LIGHTS ON OR WHATEVER. IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, DO A RENTAL, SCHEDULE IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND FORGET ABOUT IT. SO IT'S GONNA REDUCE OVERTIME, REDUCE OVERTIME AND ENERGY. IT COULD REDUCE, UH, ENERGY USAGE FOR PROLONGED JUST, YEAH. I MEAN, I MEAN, ANYTIME YOU CAN REDUCE ENERGY, WHETHER IT'S A MINOR AMOUNT IS GOOD. THOSE ARE LEDS TOO. YEAH, THEY'RE, YEAH. YEAH. SO, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT WOULD BE FOR BATES AND FREEDOM FIELDS. WHAT'S, UH, THE, UH, PACKAGE SEVEN, SEVEN AND EIGHT IS RETROFITTING THE CURRENT LIGHTS WITH LED LIGHTS. AND IS THAT ALL FIELDS OR JUST ONE FIELD? THAT'S ALL OF THEM. THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. YEAH. SEVEN, SEVEN IS BAITS AND, AND EIGHT IS FREEDOM. THAT'S, THAT'S EVERY, ALL THE LIGHTS, UH, I THINK, UM, AND, AND THAT WOULD REDUCE YOUR, THAT WOULD ALMOST, I DID SOME, YOU KNOW, CALCULATION ON KILOWATT HOURS USED AND STUFF THAT WOULD ALWAYS CUT YOUR KILOWATT HOURS USAGE IN HALF. WELL, WE JUST THOUGHT OF THANK YOU FOR ANNOUNCING THAT. IT'S YOUR POWER CONSUMPTION GOES [02:30:01] DOWN. YEAH. IT, IT DOES IT. AND, YOU KNOW, UM, I MEAN, I DIDN'T GET IT DOWN TO THE, TO THE T BUT YOU'RE ALMOST CUTTING IT IN HALF YOUR POWER CONSUMPTION IN HALF PAYBACK PERIOD. I, I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED, LOOKED INTO THAT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANNA LOOK INTO THE PAYBACK PERIOD ON THAT, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE USAGE. UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO GET, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CURRENTLY USE RIGHT NOW. AND SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO. UH, WHY IS ONE MORE THAN THE OTHER THOUGH? SEVEN AND 8, 2 39 VERSUS 2 49? WELL, UM, FREEDOM PARK, I HAVE THE BREAKDOWN. IT'S, UM, MORE LIGHTING. THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADDING MORE, LESS, LESS FIXTURES AT BATES AND MORE AT FREEDOM. OKAY. YEAH. UH, ABOUT 60,000 A FIELD. YEAH. IT'S, UH, UH, THE, I MEAN, I CAN, I THINK IT'S LIKE 80, 80 LIGHTS AT, AT, UM, AT, UM, AT ONE AND, AND 90 AT THE OTHER. SO, BUT YEAH. IT, IT'S JUST THE AMOUNT OF FIX WAS A BIG DEAL TOO. YEAH. SO WE, WE'VE DONE SOME OF THAT LOOKING AT, AT WORK AT THE PORT. YEAH. THE, THE INITIAL COST IS, IT HURTS, BUT IT LASTS SO MUCH, BUT IT LASTS SO MUCH LONGER, AND YOUR POWER CONSUMPTION GOES WELL AND, AND LESS MAINTENANCE. YEAH. YOU, I MEAN, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE OUT THERE CHANGING BULBS, CHANGING BALLAST. YEAH. DEPENDING ON WHAT PACKAGE YOU GET. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EVEN RUN, RUN 'EM ALL. YOU CAN RUN SOME OF 'EM. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF NOBODY'S OUT THERE RIGHT. TO SPEAK UP. CORRECT. THAT'S TRUE. UM, PACKAGE NINE IS, UM, RESTORING THE TREE CANOPY IN, IN OUR PARK, SPECIFICALLY BATES PARK. WE HAVE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS LOSING TREES. THESE JUST THIS YEAR ALONG WE'VE LO WE HAVE LOST SIX COUNTRIES THAT BATES AND, WELL, YOU USE THE RESTORE FOR PECANS OR, MM-HMM. . AND, AND YEAH. SO THIS QUOTE IS SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PARK, WE ASSESSED THAT THERE WERE 30 PECANS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT ORCHARD THAT WERE NO LONGER THERE. UM, AND SO THIS IS TO REPLACE WITH, UH, THREE CALIBER INCH PECANS SPECIFICALLY. AND CHRIS ALSO DIRECTED FROM ONE OF THE STRATEGIC ACTION ITEMS THAT WAS IN OUR MOST, UH, RECENT CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLAN, ADDRESSING THE TREE. CAN P WE'VE ADDED A LINE ITEM IN BUDGET NOW, SO THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO CONSIDER ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE CAN DO THAT. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT IS IN YOUR BUDGET. THERE IS A TREE CANOPY LINE ITEM, BUT IT'S ONLY A DECIS DECISION PACKAGE THIS YEAR. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PUT IT IN YOUR BUDGET ANNUALLY IN SOMEBODY WHO'S UTILIZED BATES PARK. IT'S A GREAT RECRUITING TOOL THAT YEAH, IT IS THAT TREE CANOPY. IT MAKES ALL THE WORLD DIFFERENCE IN THE, WELL, IT'S PART OF THE HERITAGE TOO, OF THE PARK AND STUFF. HERITAGE. GOOD POINT. BUT LATE SPRING EARLY AND THE SUMMER, IT, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT WITHOUT THOSE TREES. AND AGAIN, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OTHER TREES THAT ARE ABOUT TO GO AND PUT THEM ON THE LIST. UH, YEAH. COULD WE TO REPLANT HORNS OR, RIGHT. SO YEAH, WE HAD, WE HAD 10 SYCAMORES, 10 WITH DAMAGE, I MEAN, SUBSTANTIAL LIMBS, YOU KNOW. YEAH. BROKEN OUT OF 'EM. SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU'RE JUST GONNA START GETTING DISEASED TREES AND MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE STILL STANDING AND THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT DOWN. THESE FACTORS STARTING TO ROT, YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY IT'S JUST ANY, THE NEXT STORM COMES BY. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. MANY OF THOSE TREES ARE OVER A, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. YEAH, DEFINITELY. YEAH. SO HAVE SOME GOOD BARBECUING. UM, SO THAT'S OKAY. EVERYTHING PARKS. UH, ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW WHEN I WAS LISTENING EARLIER, COLLEEN AND MENTIONED ABOUT DAMAGES IN THE PARKS. YEAH. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEN NO, I DO WANT TO ASK ONE LAST QUESTION ON PARKS THOUGH. AND IT'S AROUND LINE ITEM FOUR 15, LEGAL PROFESSIONAL. I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S BLOWING THE WHOLE COMPARISON YEAR OVER YEAR BUDGET OUT OF WHACK. SO I'LL SPEAK TO THAT. OKAY. SO GENERALLY WE HAVE LEGAL AND PROFESSIONAL FEES IN TWO PLACES. ONE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, RIGHT. AND ONE IN MY BUDGET. RIGHT. AND WE HAVE DISCUSSION EVERY YEAR, CHRIS, HOW COME WE'RE WAY OUTTA WHACK. SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS CAPTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, KATZ ACADEMY PROPERTY. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, THERE'S LEGAL FEES INVOLVED, THE TWO LAWYERS WORKING OUT THE AGREEMENT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. I JUST WANTED TO CAPTURE THOSE. SO AGAIN, IT'S A ZERO SUM GAME. IT MEANS THOSE OTHER CATEGORIES GO DOWN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, AND MY LEGAL FEES. AND SAME, YOU'LL SEE THE SAME THING WITH HECTOR. IT'LL, IT'LL BE IN THERE ALSO. [02:35:01] SO WHEN WE HAVE JOHN PETERSON, YOU KNOW, DO THE SPEED BUMP THING, RIGHT? THAT'S FEES THAT GET IN THOSE TWO CATEGORIES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE, WELL, THEY'RE OVER 'CAUSE WE DON'T BUDGET FOR 'EM. BUT AGAIN, ACCOUNT FOR THEM IN A PLACE THAT, UM, THEY NEED TO BE. THAT'S, AND FOR THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, JOHN, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FOUR 15 BUDGET. IT'S A DECISION PACKAGE FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE. BUT YES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TRACKING APPROPRIATELY. UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE LEGAL FEES ALSO ON A BLC, WHICH IS A MAJORITY OF WHERE OUR PROJECTS ARE FUNDED FROM. BECAUSE IN THE PAST THERE WERE THINGS LIKE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION STUFF, ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER, ALL THOSE CONSTITUTE, THEY, THEY CREATE EXPENSE. AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CAPTURE THAT WHEN WE HAVE STUFF IT'S APPROPRIATELY CATEGORIZED. WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE TRYING TO SPEND $70,000 IN, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A, A COMPARISON OF YOUR TOTAL BUDGET. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IF I TAKE THAT OUT, YOU'RE UP. ARE YOU LOOKING AT BASE OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT TOTAL INCLUDING DECISION? I'M TOTAL FIVE 50 PARKS. SO, SO IF YOU LOOK AT TOTAL, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT, UM, IF YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE BASE LINE ITEM, IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE ALL THE DECISION PACKAGES IN THERE. THAT'S CORRECT. I, I GOT, I GOT, I GOT THAT. OKAY. YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT, UM, THREE AND HALF PERCENT INCREASE, UM, YEAR OVER YEAR. LEMME MAKE SURE I HAVE THAT RIGHT. AND AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE UNANTICIPATED THAT WE HAVE NOT FUNDED FOR IN THE PAST THAT ARE LARGE TICKET ITEMS HERE ARE THE BUILDING LEASE 5 35 AND THE LEASE VEHICLES, WHICH WE WERE DIRECTED TO PUT OUT OF, EXCUSE ME, 5 35 LEASE PAYMENTS FOR ENTERPRISE FLEET AND 5 38 BUILDING LEASE. THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE EVER EXPENSED. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO KB PHIL 13, YOU CAN FIND THAT ON PAGE 87TH MORNING Y'ALL. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? UH, I'M GONNA TRY TO, UH, BE BRIEF ON THIS ONE, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, UH, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO ASK THOSE. UM, BUT KB IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER A BUDGET SOME THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. UM, SOME. YEP. UM, AND SO, UH, BEFORE WE JUMP INTO IT, UH, THIS ONE IS IN ITS OWN SEPARATE FUND. SO THIS ONE IS NOT ALLOCATED WITH THE GENERAL FUND. UH, THE KB FUND IS, UH, FUND 13, WHICH SUPPORT, UH, KB COMMISSIONS, UH, BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS. SO, UM, JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT PART OF IT. UM, AND THEN HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE WINS THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR. UM, ONE OF THE ONES WE HAD WAS INSTALLATION, UH, AND WELL, THE REMOVAL AND THE INSTALLATION OF NEW PARK FOR DICKEY PARK. UH, SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR MONUMENT SIGNAGE, UH, AND GATEWAY SIGNAGE, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH ONE SIGN AT A TIME. UH, LAST YEAR WE COMPLETED MASTERSON, AND THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE DICKIE PARK. UH, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE. UH, WE CONTINUE TO, UH, PROGRESS WITH OUR BEAUTIFICATION FOR THE T BOX WRAPS THIS YEAR. THEY WERE ABLE TO REWRAP THREE OF THEM TO KEEP THEM, UH, IN GOOD STANDING DUE TO SOME DAMAGES AND SOME REPAIRS THAT HAD TO BE DONE ON THOSE BOXES. UH, BUT THEY'RE ALSO SLATED TO ADD TWO ADDITIONAL ONES THIS YEAR. UH, THEY'LL BE ADDING ONE, UM, AT, UH, THE SOUTH OF TOWN ON 2 88 AND CEMETERY ROAD. UH, AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER ONE UP ON, UH, UH, 5 23 AND LOOP 2 7 4. SO, UH, LOOKING TO EXPAND WHERE THEY ARE, UH, CONTINUE THAT INITIATIVE. UH, STUART ALREADY MENTIONED THIS, ONE OF THEIR INITIATIVES WAS THE GREEN RIBBON PROJECT. SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH TDOT, BEING ABLE TO SECURE THE VEGETATION, BE ABLE TO TAKE OUR PARK SKIES OFF, THAT WAS MEDIUM RIGHT OF WAYS, BUT ALSO ADD BEAUTIFICATION THROUGHOUT TOWN, PLANTING TREES, UH, WILDFLOWERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UH, AND THEN ONE OF THE OTHER ONES WAS WE WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS FUND TO PAY FOR THE NEW HOLIDAY BANNERS THAT ARE, ARE PUT UP AROUND, UH, CHRISTMAS TIME. UM, SO THAT WAS TO BE ABLE TO STANDARDIZE THOSE AND ENSURE THAT WE HAD CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT TOWN. SO WE WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT, UH, FUND TO DO SO. UM, AND THEN, UH, ALSO THIS YEAR WE ARE AWARDED THE HGAC GRANT. SO WE WERE AWARDED A $23,000 GRANT TO SUPPORT OUR CLEANUP, UH, INITIATIVES. UH, THAT GRANT RUNS FROM THIS CURRENT SPRING. SO, UH, 2024, SPRING THROUGH 2025 SPRING. SO, UH, WILL OVERLAP, UH, THREE EVENTS FOR THAT [02:40:01] TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE INITIATIVES. SO WE WERE, UH, HAPPY TO DO, UH, GET THAT AGAIN, UH, WHICH ALLOWED US THE OPPORTUNITY TO THIS SPRING. WE WERE ABLE TO, OR, UH, CONTINUE TO ADD OUR PAINT RECYCLING. SO PAINT AND AEROSOLS WAS AN ADD-ON TO OUR CLEANUPS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD IN. UM, WE'VE SEEN A GREAT RETURN FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THAT AND HOW THEY'RE PARTICIPATING, UH, AND HOPEFULLY CONTINUE THERE. SO, BUT I WILL JUMP INTO THE REVENUE SIDE OF THINGS FIRST. UM, SO FIRST ONE, UH, UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST INCREASES YOU'LL SEE IS FROM 3 0 6. THAT IS THE TRASH BAG REVENUE. UH, SO THERE ARE, UH, KEB TRASH BAGS THAT ARE SOLD AT THE ENGLETON REC CENTER. UH, AND WE, UH, HAD TO DO A PRICE INCREASE, UH, FY 23. AND SO THAT PRICE JUMPED TO $7 A ROLL AND, UH, TO $10 A ROLL, UH, PARTIALLY DUE TO THE, WAS OBVIOUSLY INFLATION. UH, BUT WE'VE SEEN THAT TREND CONTINUE. SO WE'RE, UM, INCREASING THE PROJECTION ON REVENUE FROM THAT TO ABOUT $8,800. UM, 8 0 4 IS THE NEXT BIG ONE YOU'LL SEE. UH, SO THAT ONE IS THE WATER BILL DONATION. SO SIMILAR TO THE TRASH BAGS, UH, AND FY 22, WE CAME IN, UH, AND ASKED, UH, FOR AN INCREASE TO THAT DONATION LINE FOR THE WATER BILL DONATIONS. WE WENT FROM AN INCREASE FROM 50 CENTS TO A DOLLAR, UH, THAT, UH, INDIVIDUALS ARE ABLE TO DONATE THROUGH THE WATER BILL. UH, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE THAT TREND STAY IN. WE WERE CAUTIOUS AT FIRST NOT KNOWING IF EVERYBODY WOULD CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE. UM, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING A TWO YEAR TREND THAT EVERYBODY IS STILL STAYING ON THAT, UH, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THAT NUMBER WILL STAY CONSISTENT. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT INCREASE THERE. UM, EIGHT 12, JUST WANNA POINT THIS ONE OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE THINGS, UH, THE RECENT DEBRIS CLEAN UP AND EVERYTHING. UH, PART OF WASTE CONNECTIONS, UH, CONTRACT DOES, UH, HAVE A, UH, FEE THAT GOES TO KEEP, UH, CAROLINA KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL INITIATIVES, UM, TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT. SO THERE'S A $6,000 THAT WE STILL ANTICIPATE TO SEE FROM THAT. UM, THEY DO ALSO SUPPORT, UH, PER THEIR CONTRACT, THOSE CLEANUPS. SO THEY DO COME AND PROVIDE A SOLID WASTE CLEANUP, UH, LOCATION AT THOSE SPOTS TOO. AND THEN LAST ONE FOR REVENUE IS NUMBER, UH, ACCOUNT 900. UH, THAT ONE, YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE A DECREASE IN THAT ONE. UH, SO TRADITIONALLY TO HELP SUPPORT THAT, UH, SIGN REPLACEMENT INITIATIVE, WE WERE UTILIZING FUND BALANCE. SO MAKING A TRANSFER FROM FUND BALANCE TO SUPPORT THAT. UH, HOWEVER, BASED ON OUR, UH, OUR GRANTS, UH, AND OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND WHERE WE SEE THINGS GOING WE'LL, NO LONGER NEED TO DO A FUND BALANCE TRANSFER, WE'LL BE CONSUMING THAT COST AND OUR NORMAL OPERATION BUDGET. UH, SO IT'LL NO LONGER BE TAPPING INTO THE FUND BALANCE OF IT EACH YEAR. IT'S JUST GONNA BE BUILT INTO OUR NORMAL BUDGET. SO WHAT'S YOUR FUND BALANCE CURRENTLY? UH, I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. UH, QUICK QUESTION FOR GRANTS. ARE YOUR GRANTS JUST KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL, OR ARE THEY ALSO BASED ON PARKS MASTER PLAN? UH, SO THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY IS FOR KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL. SO IT WAS INITIATIVE, UH, TO BEING VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT IT IS FOR. SO THE HGAC GRANT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE APPLIED FOR, FOR PARKS, UM, BUT IT IS SPECIFIC TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR, UH, KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL. MM-HMM. , ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REVENUE SIDE? OKAY. UH, EXPENSE SIDE OF THINGS. UM, FIRST ONE I'LL POINT OUT IS 2 0 5. UM, SO THAT ONE, WE HAD A SMALL REDUCTION IN OUR ANTICIPATED SUPPLY COSTS FOR, UM, GENERAL SUPPLY. SO TO SUPPORT OUR CLEANUP INITIATIVES, UM, WHETHER IT BE GLOVES, TRASH BAGS, TRASH PICKERS, UM, WE HAVE STARTED TO UTILIZE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL AND KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL. UH, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT AS A, A DUES SECTION THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. UM, THEY OFFER REDUCED PRICING. THEY OFFER FREE SUPPLIES FROM TIME TO TIME. SO WE'VE BEEN TAKING MORE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE OUR COSTS TO, TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE A REDUCTION IN 2 0 5. UH, 4 0 6 IS THE NEXT ONE. 4 0 6 IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO OUR CLEANUP COSTS. UH, SO THERE IS A REDUCTION THERE. HOWEVER, WE STILL DO NEED TO BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, BASED ON THE INCREASED USAGE THAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, FOR THOSE CLEANUPS, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE PAINT, UH, INITIATIVE, WE HAVE SEEN INCREASED COSTS FOR THAT. SO OUR GRANT DOESN'T COVER ALL THREE FULL EVENTS, UH, IN THEIR ENTIRETY. SO WE'RE, UH, UTILIZING THE DIFFERENCE OF, AND SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A DE DECREASE IN THIS LINE, WE STILL ARE BUDGETING TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN STILL OFFER THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR OUR FALL EVENT AND OUR SPRING EVENT, UH, LINE FOUR 20, UH, THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE OUR DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS. UH, AS I MENTIONED PRIOR, THIS INCLUDES THE, UH, KEEP AMERICA [02:45:01] BEAUTIFUL, UH, DUES, THE KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL DUES. UM, AND THEN, UH, THE THIRD ONE THAT THE BOARD, UH, PARTICIPATED IN THIS YEAR ELECTED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WAS TO SUPPORT BRA KEEP BRAZORIA COUNTY BEAUTIFULS INITIATIVE AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, TREATMENT CENTER. AND SO IT AFFORDS OUR RESIDENTS OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, RECYCLE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, UH, UH, THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH. UM, SO BY PARTICIPATING IN THAT, WE'RE, UH, UTILIZING AS INITIATIVE TO PUSH MORE INFORMATION IN MORE WAYS OUTSIDE OF OUR REGULAR CLEANUPS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO RECYCLING. THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE. OKAY. UM, UH, FOUR 30 IS THE NEXT ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS OUR PLANNER MAINTENANCE. UM, AGAIN, FINDING STRATEGIC WAYS TO REDUCE SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE. UH, WE, THIS CURRENT YEAR, WE'RE ABLE TO GET A SPONSORSHIP TO HELP, UH, REDO THE VEGETATION IN OUR PLANNERS. UH, WE CONT WE'RE HOPEFUL TO CONTINUE THAT, TO REDUCE THE COST THAT WE'RE HAVING TO PUT INTO IT AND FIND PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO DO SO. AND THEN SIX 15, UM, THAT ONE YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE ON THAT ONE. UH, THAT ONE IS I REFERENCE BEFORE IS A REPLACEMENT OF ADDITIONAL SIGN. UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE THAT INITIATIVE TO REPLACE AN ADDITIONAL PARK SIGN. UH, THERE IS A SLIGHT INCREASE JUST PLANNING FOR INFLATION THAT COMES WITH THAT. WE WANNA BE PROACTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COVER THEIR COST. WHAT SIGNS THE, THE, WE REPLACED THE PARK SIGN. SO WE REPLACED BY MASTERSON WAS THE FIRST ONE WE DID, UH, THIS YEAR WAS, UH, DICKIE PARK. UM, AND THEN WE'RE, UH, HOPEFUL TO BE ABLE TO DO BG P FOR NEXT YEAR. COULD YOU USE THIS MONEY TO REPLACE STREETLIGHTS? POTENTIALLY. I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S, WE WANT TO KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL. WE HAVE BROKEN STREET LIGHTS ALL THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF TOWN , AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING A SIGN OUT AT BG PEG THAT ONLY IF YOU GO OUT THERE, WILL YOU EVER KNOW, I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE MORE OF AN IMPACT TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO ME, UH, FIXING THOSE LIGHTS. I MEAN, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA KIND OF THINK OF WHERE WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY AND WHAT'S THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK. MM-HMM. , THAT'S DEFINITELY, WE CAN EXPLORE THAT. HOPEFULLY WE GET SPONSORS TO FIX THOSE LIGHTS, BUT WELL, HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIX 'EM WITHIN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET. AND THEY'RE JUST LIGHT BULBS AND GLOVES. MM-HMM. . YEAH. YEAH. BUT WE CAN LOOK AT STRATEGIC WAYS TO DO THAT. UM, UH, JOHN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE FUND BALANCE CURRENTLY FOR KAB IS 59,000, AND THAT'S IT FOR KAB. ANY QUESTIONS? NO DECISION PACKAGES FOR THIS ONE, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO A BLC SO YOU CAN FIND REVENUES ON PAGE 92. 92. SORRY, VERY FEW LINE ITEMS TO LOOK AT HERE, BUT A VERY IMPORTANT LINE ITEM. SO I'M GONNA TALK YOU A LITTLE BIT THROUGH, UM, THE REVENUE, HOW WE CAME OUT WITH OUR PROJECTION AND GO FROM THERE. SO PRIMARY LINE ITEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS 8 0 1 SALES TAX PORTION. UM, ACTUALLY BEFORE I JUMP INTO THAT, A COUPLE OF QUICK WINS FOR A BLC. SO THIS FISCAL YEAR WE HAVE, LIKE STEWART MENTIONED, COMPLETED DOWNING TENNIS COURTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH A ISD BG P SOCCER COMPLEX. UH, THEY FUNDED ABOUT $21,000 OF THAT PROJECT ALONG WITH ARPA FUNDS. AND THAT WAS FOR THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING. WE WERE JUST RECENTLY, WE JUST, UH, A BLC APPROVED THE MATERIAL PURCHASE FOR, UH, OUR INDOOR AUDITORIUM PLATE COMPONENTS. SO THOSE HAVE BEEN PURCHASED AND ON ORDER, UM, IT'S ABOUT A 20 TO 22 WEEK MANUFACTURING AND DELIVERY. UH, FREEDOM PARK PASSIVE DESIGN AREA WAS A BUDGETED PROJECT FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR THAT CARRIED OVER INTO THIS YEAR. BURETT LAND IN PLACE IS THE CONSULTANT FIRM THAT HAS THIS PROJECT THERE AT 90% COMPLETE WITH CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE 2024 A BLC BOND IS FUNDING A RC IMPROVEMENTS, ABIGAIL S. PARK DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO BGP SOCCER COMPLEX. SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO UH, 8 0 1, [02:50:02] WE, SORRY, EXCUSE ME. WHAT WE DID HERE WAS WE TOOK THE AVERAGE FOR FISCAL YEAR 21, 20 2% AND CHANGE AND FISCAL YEAR 22, 23 SO THAT WE COULD DEAL WITH SOME ACTUAL NUMBERS. SO THE PERCENT AND CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR 20 FISCAL YEAR 21 AND 22 WAS 8.18%. MM-HMM. AND FISCAL YEAR 2223 WAS 7.26%. SO THAT AVERAGED OUT TO 7.72, WHICH IS THE NUMBER THAT WE UTILIZED FOR OUR ESTIMATE FOR THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. IT'S THE SAME NUMBER THAT WE UTILIZED FOR OUR PROPOSED FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, UH, IS THAT THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR WE ADOPTED A 9% INCREASE. SO I CAN EXPECT, OR YOU ALL CAN EXPECT THAT THIS IS, WE'RE GONNA COME IN UNDER THAT THRESHOLD. YEAH. WE'RE AT 6.72% YEAR TO DATE, CORRECT? YES. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROPOSAL FOR REVENUE FOR NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO EXPENSES? OKAY, SO IF YOU GO ON TO THE NEXT PAGE, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE REST OF THE DIVISIONS. SO I WANT TO EXPLAIN VERY CLEARLY, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, GO OVER SOME OF THESE LINE ITEMS. SO, BECAUSE A BLC SUBSIDIZES RECREATION DIVISION OPERATIONS AND ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DIVISION OPERATIONS, THEY ALSO HAVE A COMPONENT RELATED TO THE PARKS PERSONNEL. SO LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE BROUGHT THE PARKS PERSONNEL TRANSFER DOWN TO 25%. SO PARKS PERSONNEL IS A GENERAL FUND ACCOUNT. UM, OUT OF THE TOTAL PERSONNEL COSTS, A BLC PAYS FOR 25% OF THAT. SO ANYTIME YOU MAKE A CHANGE, LET'S SAY THE COLA IS APPROVED AND YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WE HAVE TO CHANGE ALL OF THESE NUMBERS. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE ONES THAT I WANNA POINT OUT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS IF YOU LOOK AT ITEM 7 0 1 ON, UM, THAT ITEMIZATION, THAT IS YOUR 25% PARKS PERSONNEL LINE ITEM. SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS BASED ON WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO YOU TODAY. SO IF ANY CHANGES ARE MADE, AGAIN, THAT NUMBER IS GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE. 361,172 WILL CHANGE IF WE MAKE ANY CHANGES TO PARKS PERSONNEL. UM, IF YOU JUMP DOWN TO SEVEN 60, TRANSFER TO, UH, ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER OPERATION FUND, SAME THING HERE. YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR FROM ANGLETON CENTER OPERATIONS AND THE RECREATION DIVISION. IF WE MAKE A DOLLAR CHANGE, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS NUMBER. MM-HMM, AND THIS TRANSFER, UM, WHAT THEY DON'T MAKE UP IN THEIR REVENUE IS SUPPORTED BY THE A BLC UH, ACCOUNT. THIS EXPENSE ACCOUNT, SAME THING WITH ANGLETON CENTER OPERATIONS. SO WHATEVER WE DON'T MAKE IN REVENUE, UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE TRANSFER AMOUNT. AND SO THAT IS, UM, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 7 0 1, 7 60 AND 7 61. 7 61 IS THE TRANSFER TO RECREATION DIVISION. UH, WITH RESPECT TO THOSE, THOSE ITEMS, RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR SEVEN 60, I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU 7 0 1 IS A 25% OF PARKS PERSONNEL SEVEN 60 CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS IS ABOUT A 48%. THAT'S HOW MUCH A BLC SUBSIDIZES THE RECREATION CENTERS. 48%. THAT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER IN YEARS PAST. MM-HMM, THAT WAS BECAUSE YOU HAD THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER AND REC DIVISION TIED TOGETHER. THIS IS GIVING YOU A CLEARER PICTURE ON HOW MUCH A BLC IS SUBSIDIZING WHAT DIVISION HERE IN THE RECREATION DIVISION. IT IS ABOUT AN 87 SUBSIDY. 87% SUBSIDY. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GO BACK UP TO THE TOP. UM, WE'RE JUST GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ACCOUNT SO THAT YOU CAN FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH HOW WE DEVELOP THIS BUDGET. FIVE 20 ACCOUNT. FIVE 20 IS A BLC CONTINGENCY. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ACCOUNTS THAT WE UTILIZE AS ONCE WE GET ALL OF OUR TRANSFERS COMPLETE, OUR DEBT SERVICE NUMBERS ENTERED IN HERE, THAT'S THE NUMBER WE'RE LEFT OVER WITH. IF YOU WANT YOUR REVENUE AND YOUR EXPENSE TO BALANCE. SO OUR REVENUE, WE'RE SAYING NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA BRING IN LIKE $2.3 MILLION. SO IN ORDER TO BALANCE THAT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE BALANCED. WE CAN BE UNDER OVER, BUT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT. UM, IF WE WANT IT BALANCED. THAT 2 35, 230 5,000 IS KIND OF YOUR, YOU CAN DECIDE WHATEVER PROJECTS [02:55:01] YOU WANT TO BUDGET OUT OF THAT MONEY. IF YOU WANNA ISSUE ANOTHER DEBT ISSUANCE, THAT'S HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE TO SPEND AS THEIR BUDGETS. ANGLETON RECREATIONS, CENTER REC DIVISION AND PARKS PERSONNEL STANDS TODAY. HOWEVER, THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL DECISION DECISION PACKAGES THAT WILL IMPACT THOSE BUDGETS. THAT WILL BRING FIVE 20, THAT FIVE 20 NUMBER DOWN. SO IF YOU APPROVE ANY OF THE DEC THOSE DECISION PACKAGES, THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO DECREASE. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE, LET'S SEE, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT 7 0 1, WHICH IS OUR PARK, UM, PERSONNEL. SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT DEBT SERVICE. DEBT SERVICE IS 7 0 5. SO YOU CAN SEE YEAR OVER YEAR. THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WAS 428,000. UM, THAT WAS EXISTING DEBT SERVICE. WE JUST WENT OUT TO DEBT. SO OUR NEW DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT IS 714,000 ISH. WE HAD A, OR WILL HAVE A DEBT PAYMENT IN AUGUST, WHICH WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR IN CONTINGENCY ALREADY. SO WE'VE PRETENDED WE'VE MADE THAT ACCOUNT SO THAT WE STAY BALANCED. SO IF, IF STAFF WERE TO COME TO A BLC AND SAY WE WANT X, Y, AND Z PROJECTS, WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR FUNDS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE PULLED FOR DEBT SERVICE IN AUGUST. I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS. AGAIN, THIS WILL MAKE MORE SENSE WHEN WE GET THROUGH RECREATION DIVISION AND THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S SEVERAL DECISION PACKAGES. FOR INSTANCE, I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A COUPLE EXAMPLES. UH, WE'VE HAD A DEMAND FOR INCREASE IN SENIOR TRIPS. WELL THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE. SO IF WE HAVE ZERO COST RECOVERY ON SENIOR PROGRAMS, HOW DO WE EXPECT TO FUND THAT? A BLC WOULD PICK UP THE BILL UNLESS AT A LATER TIME, WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS. UM, WE'LL DISCUSS AND HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH CITY COUNCIL ON OUR CURRENT COST RECOVERY MODEL AND WHAT THAT MAYBE SHOULD LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD. UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT WILL BE IN THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS. THAT'LL BE RIGHT. TAKE A BREATH. RIGHT. AND, AND THEN ANOTHER EXAMPLE FROM ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. WE HAVE SOME LIABILITY AND RISK CONCERNS RELATED TO STAFFING, UH, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE NATATORIUM. SO YOU'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THOSE DECISION PACKAGES TODAY AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO FUND. IF YOU DO, THAT $235,000 NUMBER IS GOING TO DECREASE AND YOUR TRANSFER IS GOING TO INCREASE ON YOUR EXPENSE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. OKAY. JUST A COUPLE QUICK ONES. UH, SO CONTINGENCY LINE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR YOU WERE BUDGETING 2 61. WE ONLY HAVE, WE'RE ESTIMATING 180 7 AND THAT 180 7 INCLUDES THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT, OR IS THAT COMING OUT OF THE 7 0 1? IT DOES. WE, WE MOVED, SO WHEN WE DID OUR MIDYEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CHARGING EXPENSES TO THE CORRECT ACCOUNT. SO FOR INSTANCE, THE FREEDOM PARK PASSIVE AREA DESIGN, THAT'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. IT WAS BEING PAID OUT OF CONTINGENCY, IT DIDN'T NEED TO BE. SO WE MOVED THAT SO THAT IT WAS COMING OUT OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. YOU SHOULD SEE THAT, UM, FOUR 15. WHERE IS THAT? IS THAT THE PROJECT DESIGN? 6 25? YES. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. YES. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT IS WHY YOU SEE A REDUCTION IN THE 180 6. BUT THEN WE ALSO HAD, UM, LET'S SEE, MORE SPECIFIC NOTES. I'LL SAY THE REASON I WAS ASKING IS LINE 7 0 5, THE TRANSFER OF THE DEBT SERVICE. MM-HMM. WE HAD ESTIMATED 4 29 AND IT'S GONNA BE 4 94. IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE FIRST PAYMENTS COMING UP OUT THERE? CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. SO IT GETS MOVED OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. YES, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. MM-HMM, AND THEN THE 2 35 ALREADY INCLUDES THAT THE DEBT SERVICE FROM THAT WE WENT OUT FOR THIS YEAR THAT WAS IN CONTINGENCY, IS NOW GONNA BE PART OF THE DEBT SERVICE IN 25. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BASE FOR NEXT YEAR? YES. SO WE HAVE, YEAH, WE'RE WORKING OFF OF THE NEW DEBT SERVICE CALENDAR. SO THAT 2 35 IS LEFTOVER YES. AT THE MOMENT. CORRECT. AND THAT'S OKAY. YES. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IT WILL STAY THAT WAY, BUT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE YOUR DECISION. SO WHAT ABOUT THE, JUST QUICKLY, I KNOW WE GOT, WE'VE RUN OUT OF TIME HERE. SURE. BUT ON THE CONTINGENCY FOR THIS YEAR, THE 180 7 THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. MM-HMM? . MM-HMM. , IS THAT ALL ALLOCATED? IS THAT ALL ALLOCATED? LET ME GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN. SO WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT, UH, 9,000 WAS MOVED TO PARK DESIGN FOR THE EXPENSIVE, UH, FREEDOM PARK, PASSIVE AREA DESIGN AND WITH CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. OKAY. YOU DON'T NEED THAT DETAIL. 64,000 WAS MOVED TO DEBT ISSUANCE FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE BOND. 11 NINE. UM, WAS UTILIZED FOR TERRACON BORROW SAMPLES FOR FREEDOM PARK. PASSIVE DESIGN AREA 44,470 WAS THE CONTRIBUTION FROM A BLC TO DOWNING TENNIS COURTS. [03:00:01] OKAY. AND SIGNAGE, BG P SOCCER, COMPLEX LIGHTING 21,000, WHICH WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH ARPA. AND THEN A BLC ALSO FUNDED THE NATATORIUM COMPONENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $109,167. OKAY. SO WE'RE RIGHT. I MEAN YOU PROBABLY HAVE A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS LEFT OVER AND THAT'S IT. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO MENTION IN THE JUNE MEETING OF A-B-L-C-A-B-L-C DID APPROVE $150,000 TO GO TOWARDS A TPW MATCHING GRANT. UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT GRANT FOR AUGUST ONE. KEEP THAT IN CONSIDERATION FOR CONTINGENCY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'D BE PULLING IT FROM UNLESS YOU WANTED US TO TAKE IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE. SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY, WE CAN GO OVER THIS AMOUNT. IT'S JUST GONNA HIT YOUR A BLC FUND BALANCE. CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS, OUR A BLC FUND BALANCE IS, UH, 592,612 AND 36 5 9 2 5 9 2. OKAY. BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, A MONTHLY TRANSFER TO EACH OF THESE COUNTS. SO THIS IS A, THESE WERE THE NUMBERS THAT WERE REPORTED AT THE LAST A VLC MEETING, BUT YOU CAN EXPECT THEM TO CHANGE. YOU CANNOT BANK ON THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA END AT FISCAL YEAR END. I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT AROUND 7.7. I THINK SO TOO. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO WE ARE GONNA MOVE STRAIGHT INTO THE RECREATION DIVISION. GOOD MORNING. UM, SO WE'LL GET INTO SOME QUICK WINS JUST FOR THE RECREATION DIVISION. UM, SOME THINGS TO NOTE, UM, PARTICIPATION, ALL OF OUR SENIOR PROGRAMS HAS INCREASED THIS YEAR. ALL OF OUR TRIPS HAVE MAXED OUT ON PARTICIPATION. UM, AND PLEASE NOTE THAT SENIOR PROGRAMMING IS AT 0% COST RECOVERY PER COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION. OTHER THINGS, UM, NEW YOUTH LEAGUE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR. SO WE DID A SUMMER YOUTH VOLLEYBALL LEAGUE AND WE ARE, UM, PROMOTING A FALL BASKETBALL LEAGUE FOR YOUTH AS WELL. SO THOSE HAVE BEEN SOME WINS THERE. AND THEN WE BROUGHT BACK SUMMER CAMP THIS YEAR THAT MARRIED THE SUMMER JAMBOREE FORMAT FROM THE PAST. UM, WE HAVE ALSO MADE IT POSSIBLE ON SOME OF THOSE, UM, OFFERINGS TO INCREASED ADDITIONAL PARTICIPATION WHEN WE HAD MAXED ON WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER. UM, ALSO AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED FROM MEGAN, THE REC DIVISION SUPPORTED BY THE, UM, A BLC HAVE SENT SALES TAX AND NOT SUPPORTED BY THE GENERAL FUND. UM, AS WE GET INTO MORE OF OUR THINGS. UM, SO MOVING INTO, UH, REVENUES, SOME THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, GENERAL PROGRAMS, UM, SEASON, SORRY, INCREASE DUE TO THE NEW YOUTH LEAGUE OFFERINGS. UM, EIGHT 13 IS YOUTH CAMPS. THAT'S REVENUE FROM SUMMER CAMP, TRACK CAMP THAT WE OFFER. AND THEN SEASONAL CAMPS. AND THEN EIGHT 14 COMMUNITY EVENTS. UM, YOU'LL SEE IS INCREASED DUE TO, UM, NEW EVENTS THAT WE BROUGHT IN AND THEN INCREASE INCREASED PARTICIPATION FROM THE JINGO BALL FUND RUN. UM, ANY OTHER THINGS ON REVENUES THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OR QUESTION? IF NOT, WE CAN GO INTO EXPENSES. SO WHAT YOU WILL, UM, SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE, UM, SOME SIGNIFICANT AREAS. UM, 1 0 6, WHICH IS PART-TIME EARNINGS. UM, THE INCREASE IS FOR, UH, EIGHT WEEKS OF CAMP NEXT YEAR RATHER THAN THE FOUR THAT WE OFFERED JUST THIS YEAR. UM, ONE 40, WHICH IS HEALTH INSURANCE. UM, THIS DECREASE IS DUE TO REMOVAL OF DI DUPLICATE INPUT THAT WAS INPUTTED LAST YEAR. SO WE PUT IN ONE AND THEN IT WAS PUT IN AGAIN BY FINANCE, SO IT WAS DUPLICATION. SO THIS YEAR, UM, WE ARE REMOVING ONE OF THOSE INPUTS. UM, FOUR ZERO FIVE, UM, RECREATIONAL PHONES FOR STAFF. THIS IS FOR STAFF TO HAVE, UM, PHONES, CITY PHONES FOR OFFSITE PROGRAMMING, SO LIKE OUR SENIOR TRIPS AND OUR CAMP TRIPS AS WELL. UM, THIS IS FOR SAFETY REASONS AND ALSO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS. SO STAFF ARE CURRENTLY USING THEIR PERSONAL DEVICES. UM, THE PHONE ALLOWANCE, WHICH IS ONE FORTY THREE, HAS BEEN MOVED TO THIS ACCOUNT. UM, OKAY. FOUR 12 GENERAL PROGRAMS, UM, HAS INCREASED FOR YOUTH VOLLEYBALL AND BASKETBALL LEAGUE OFFERINGS. [03:05:01] AND THEN FOUR 13, UM, YOUTH CAMPS HAS INCREASED TO OFFER, AGAIN, EIGHT WEEKS OF SUMMER CAMP, UH, NEXT YEAR, UH, 4 25, WHICH HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN MENTIONED. UM, WHICH IS TRAVEL, TRAVEL AND TRAINING. UM, DUE TO N RPAS, OUR NATIONAL CONFERENCE OCCURRING TWICE IN THE SAME FISCAL YEAR. UM, SO THIS SEPTEMBER, SO THIS OCTOBER, CORRECT AND NEXT SEPTEMBER. SO THE NEXT YEAR YOU'LL SEE A DECREASE IN THAT. AND THAT'S FOR STUDENTS, TWO STAFF TO ATTEND FOR CONTINUED EDUCATION CREDITS TO MAINTAIN CERTIFICATIONS. UM, WE ARE ALSO SENDING REC SUPERINTENDENT TO NPAS REVENUE DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT SCHOOL. UM, SHE RECEIVED A $700 SCHOLARSHIP FROM THE AMERICAN PARKS AND RECREATION FOUNDATION TO ASSIST IN OFFSETTING SOME OF THOSE COSTS. UM, 4 46 IS THE NEXT SIGNIFICANT, UM, CHANGE. THAT'S A DECREASE AS WE HAVE CHANGED OUR ADVERTISING OUTREACH METHODS. UM, WE DID FOUR PHYSICAL PLAYBOOKS A YEAR, AND WE HAVE SWITCHED TO THREE DIGITAL PLAYBOOKS AND ALSO POSTCARDS TO GO OUT TO ALL THE HOMES IN ANGLETON. UM, WE HAVE SEEN THAT THAT HAS BEEN BENEFICIAL AND THAT FOLKS HAVE ACTUALLY BROUGHT THE CARD TO THE REC CENTER, UM, VERSUS GETTING LOST IN THE WATER BILL INSERT. SO THAT'S BEEN GREAT. UM, INCREASE IN 4 58, UM, IS FOR A CONTRACTED BUS DRIVER FOR CAMP FOR THOSE EIGHT WEEKS. UM, THAT 2 1 6 0 IS PART OF A PROPOSED PACKAGE THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT AT THE END. UM, FIVE 11, WHICH IS TUITION REIMBURSEMENT HAS DECREASED AS I, UM, COMPLETED MY MASTER'S PROGRAM. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR CONGRATS. THANK Y'ALL. AND FOR OUR SUPPORT AS WELL WITH THE TUITION REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. UM, THE INCREASE IN 5 0 6, WHICH IS VEHICLE INSURANCE. UM, AGAIN, PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THIS IS A PROPOSED INCREASE BASED ON HR RECOMMENDATION. AND FOR 5 35, WHICH ARE LEASE PAYMENTS, UM, ON JULY 23RD, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A SWAP FOR THE, UH, CURRENT TAHOE THAT WE HAVE FOR 15 PASSENGER VAN. UM, AND STAFF REMOVED THE REQUESTS OF A NEW BUS. SO OUR LEASE WOULD BE FOR THREE VEHICLES, WHICH IS, UM, ONE BUS AND ONE PASSENGER, 15 PASSENGER VAN AND ONE TAHOE. SO THOSE ARE OUR EXPENSES. ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? SO OUR LEASE PAYMENTS ARE GOING FROM $2,000 TO $41,000 NEXT YEAR. AGAIN, THIS WAS A DIRECTIVE TO FUND THE LEASE PAYMENTS DEPARTMENTALLY. THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE HISTORICALLY. AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE RECEIVED THE NUMBERS FROM PHIL ON WHAT THOSE MONTHLY PAYMENTS WERE AND WE PLACED 'EM IN OUR BUDGET. SO MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT WHEREVER THEY WERE INITIALLY BEING PAID FOR, THEY WOULD COME OUT OF THIS. ONE THING TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION IS THAT WAS LIKELY IN THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS ALL A BLC FUNDS. SO JUST WANNA NOTE THAT. THANK YOU. UM, THE LAST THING I WANNA TALK TO Y'ALL OR PROPOSE TO YOU GUYS IS A, UM, DECISION PACKAGE, UM, THAT CAME OUT. SO, UM, THIS IS A SENIOR TRIP, INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF PARTICIPANTS THAT WE CAN TAKE ON OUR SENIOR TRIPS. YEAH. SO, UM, AT OUR APRIL SENIOR COMMISSION MEETING, THE COMMISSION VOICE THAT THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, FROM OTHER COMMUNITY CITIZENS AND THEMSELVES, THAT BECAUSE THE TRIPS HAVE WAITING LISTS, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCREASED PARTICIPATION ON THE CURRENT TRIPS THAT WE ARE TAKING. UM, SO WE'VE BRAINSTORMED WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT LIST. UM, ONE IS CONTRACTING, UM, A DRIVER AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PACKAGE INCLUDES, IS CONTRACTING A DRIVER TO DRIVE. UM, 'CAUSE YOU NEED A CDL DRIVER TO DRIVE THE BUSES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. WE HAVE ONE ON STAFF. UM, SO THE SECOND BUS WOULD NEED A SECOND DRIVER ACCOMMODATING FUEL. AND THEN ALSO WHATEVER THAT THE SENIORS ARE DOING, TICKET PRICES, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE IS WHAT IT WOULD INCLUDE. NOW, UM, BASED UPON THE SWAP THAT WE ARE DOING FOR THE 15 PASSENGER VAN, YOU COULD SEE THIS NUMBER DECREASE IN THAT WE WOULD USE AN 15 PASSENGER VAN. YOU DON'T NEED A CDL DRIVER. SO WE COULD UTILIZE ONE OF OUR STAFF TO DO SO. UM, THEN YOU WOULD JUST SEE, UH, FOR FUEL AND FOR THOSE, UM, TICKET PRICES AND THINGS THAT THE SENIORS DO. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ADDITION TO THAT? OH, WHICH WOULD BE, OH, YES. ON THAT TOP OF THAT DECISION PACKAGE, UM, WITH THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $4,000, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD COME IN WITH REVENUE. AGAIN, THE SENIORS AREN'T CURRENTLY, UM, 0% [03:10:01] COST RECOVERY, SO THEY JUST PAY FOR THE COST IT IS TO GO ON THE TRIP CURRENTLY. UM, SO, SO WHAT'S THE 5,000 4 64? THAT'S, THAT COST IS OFFSET, RIGHT? THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR TICKETS. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, SO YOU HAVE YOUR DRIVE, OUR REC SPECIALIST THAT GOES WITH OKAY. HER ROOMS, UM, HER TICKET COSTS. OKAY. UM, TO BE ABLE TO GO. SO STAFFING, YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS. IF YOU HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. LAST DIVISION IS THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER. SO JASON AND HERRIA WILL BE PRESENTING REVENUES AND EXPENSE. UM, YEAH, SO I WANNA FIRST START OFF AGAIN WITH SOME HIGHLIGHTS ON THIS ONE. UH, JUST A REMINDER FOR THE SAME THING AS THE RECREATION DIVISION THAT THIS IS, UH, PART OF A BLC FUNDING, UH, NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE GENERAL FUND, UM, BUT I'M GONNA REVIEW SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AS FAR AS THE REVENUE PORTIONS GO. UM, AND JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE WINS THAT WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR, UM, AND POINT OUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE'RE SEEING IN SOME OF THE, UH, CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I, I MAY PROVIDE. UM, BUT YOU'LL SEE, I WANT TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS HISTORY GOES. SO YOU'LL SEE SOME MAJOR CHANGES THAT HAPPENED, UM, IN FY 22. UH, SO EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE IS FOR THAT TOP ONE RIGHT THERE, A SEVEN 11. SO THAT 70 THOU $78,000, UH, ACTUAL TO THE A HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE EIGHTY 5,000 ACTUAL, I WILL SAY IT WAS A GREAT JUMP AND IT IS TRUE THAT THAT, UH, DID HAPPEN. UM, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CONSIDER FOR THAT IS THAT WE STANDARDIZE WHAT OUR MEMBERSHIPS LOOKED LIKE. SO SOME OF THE ACCOUNTS CHANGED AS FAR AS WHAT IT WAS ALLOCATING. SO WHEN YOU GO BACK HISTORY WISE, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE GREATEST INDICATOR OF WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. UH, EXAMPLE, I'LL GIVE FOR THAT ONE IS WHEN YOU GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE MILITARY MEMBERSHIPS, YOUTH MEMBERSHIPS, THOSE WERE CLASSIFIED IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY PRIOR TO, SO SOME OF THAT GOT CONSUMED INTO THERE. UM, HOWEVER, OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN A GREAT INCREASE IN OUR MEMBERSHIP USAGE, UM, AND THE NUMBER OF, UH, ATTENDEES THAT COME TO THE FACILITY. SO, UH, JUST WANT TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THOUGH. UM, SO STAYING WITH THAT FAMILY MEMBERSHIP ONE. SO WHEN YOU FIRST LOOK AT THE FAMILY MEMBERSHIP, UH, LAST YEAR, UH, WE HAD $185,000 THAT WE BROUGHT IN. UH, WE WERE PROJECTING A, UH, INCREASE TO THIS YEAR, UH, ESTIMATE OF A 206,000 THAT WE WOULD BRING IN. UH, SO IT'S ABOUT A 10% INCREASE THAT WE WERE GONNA SEE FROM YEAR OVER YEAR. UH, INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIPS, UH, WAS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN THAT. WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN A LOT MORE FAMILIES START TO UTILIZE THE FACILITY, UM, MAINLY PROBABLY 'CAUSE OF THE POOL, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. UM, BUT WE SAW ABOUT A 5% INC. WE WERE PARTICIPATING, ANTICIPATING ABOUT A 5% INCREASE ON OUR INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIPS, UH, YEAR OVER YEAR. AND THEN OUR SENIOR MEMBERSHIPS IS ONE THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED IN ON, UM, FINE TUNING THAT PROCESS, FINDING DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH AND GETTING OUR MEMBERS TO COME IN. UH, SO THAT ONE WAS PROJECTED TO HAVE ABOUT A 20% INCREASE. UH, AS FAR AS THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN FROM THAT, UH, I WILL MENTION WITH THAT ONE, SO THE UNIQUENESS FOR THE SENIOR MEMBERSHIPS IS THAT, UM, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE OUR THIRD PARTY MEMBERSHIPS. SO WE OFFER SILVER AND FIT SILVER SNEAKERS AND RENEW ACTIVE. AND SO MEMBERS COME IN AND IT, AND OUR SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE A ZERO COST, BUT THOSE PROGRAMS ACTUALLY PAY TO BE IN THOSE, AND IT'S BASED ON USAGE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS ENCOURAGE USAGE OF THE FACILITY. SO WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY ARE CHECKING IN, THEY ARE SCANNING IN, THEY ARE UTILIZING THOSE MEMBERSHIPS. UM, AND SO IT'S BASED ON THE ACTUAL USAGE OF THE FACILITY. SO THE MORE THAT THEY USE THIS FACILITY, THE MORE WE WOULD SEE IN REVENUE THAT GOES WITH THAT. UM, SO WE'VE, UH, REALLY WORKED HARD, UH, AS STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT NUMBER, UH, CONTINUES TO SHOW THOSE INCREASE IN PARTICIPATION, AS JERRY HAD MENTIONED AS FAR AS THE SENIOR PROGRAMMING GO. SO, UM, AND THEN DAY PASS ONE IS ALWAYS A HIGHLIGHTS, UH, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THE FACILITY, UH, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER, UM, ALTHOUGH I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO ALSO DON'T 'CAUSE IT'S AT CAPACITY. SO MORNINGS AND NIGHTS IS YOUR BEST BET. UM, BUT WE CONTINUE TO SEE AN INCREASE THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT ONE AS WELL. UM, UH, OTHER THINGS THAT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION FOR SOME OF THE THINGS AS WE PROJECTED MOVE FORWARD. UH, SOME THINGS WE, WE CHANGED THIS YEAR IS WE USED TO CONTRACT OUT OUR SWIM LESSONS. SO IT WAS A PRIVATE SWIM LESSON CONTRACT THAT WE HAD, UH, THAT INDIVIDUAL, UM, MID-YEAR DECIDED THEY NO LONGER WANT TO, UH, DO THAT. UH, SO WE ACTUALLY TOOK ON THE TASK OF DOING IT IN-HOUSE. SO WE WORKED TO CREATE AN IN-HOUSE PROGRAM FOR INTERNAL SWIM LESSONS AS GROUP SWIM LESSONS FOR THE SUMMER. UH, AND AS WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT MORE AS WE TALK ABOUT DECISION PACKAGES, UH, [03:15:01] FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, AND THEN ANOTHER INITIATIVE IS A FEW YEARS AGO WE REMOVED, UH, VENDING MACHINES FROM THE FACILITY JUST BECAUSE OF THE UPKEEP AND, UH, CLEANLINESS AND THE USE OF THEM AND STOCKING THEM. UH, ONE OF THE DEMANDS THAT WE SAW THOUGH, WAS PEOPLE JUST WANTED WATER. AND SO WE STARTED WATER BOTTLE SALES AT THE FRONT DESK AND THEY'VE SEEN ABOUT A $200 RETURN JUST FROM THIS SUMMER LOAN. UM, SO THAT'S SOME SOMETHING WE'RE HOPEFUL TO CONTINUE WITH. SO, UM, OTHER THING I WILL MENTION FOR FAMILY MEMBERSHIP. SO I WANNA JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT TOOK PLACE LAST YEAR. UH, SO WE STARTED TO IMPLEMENT A STANDARDIZED DISCOUNT ACROSS THE BOARD. UH, SO STANDARDIZED DISCOUNT WOULD BE A $10 DISCOUNT FOR MONTHLY MEMBERSHIPS OR A $75 FOR ANNUAL. UH, TWO NEW CATEGORIES THAT WERE ADDED TO THAT WAS OUR BRAZORIA COUNTY MEMBERSHIPS, UM, AND OUR ANGLETON ISD MEMBERSHIPS. UH, AND FROM A RESULT FROM THAT, WE HAVE SEEN, UH, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE, UH, ONE ANNUAL, UH, MEMBERSHIP FOR BRAZORIA COUNTY AND FIVE FOR, UH, MONTHLY. UH, WHEREAS ANGLETON ISD, UM, IS, UH, 11 MONTHLY, UM, SORRY, BACK UP 11 FOR ANGLETON ISD AS FAR AS MONTHLY OR FOR MONTHLY AND 22 FOR THE YEAR. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN A PRETTY GOOD RETURN ON THEM, UM, AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTING THAT PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO UTILIZE OUR FACILITY A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, SO GOING A LITTLE BIT MORE THROUGH, SO SEVEN 15 IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT. UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE A LITTLE BIT OF A, A DECREASE THIS FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGETS. THE REASON BEING IS WE ANTICIPATE, UH, A CLOSURE FOR UP TO SIX WEEKS, TYPICALLY FOR THE AUDITORIUM. WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH IT, MOST OF OUR RENTALS STEM AROUND THE POOL IN SOME CAPACITY. SO THE BIGGEST ONE IS TYPICALLY OUR INDOOR PARTY PACKAGE. WHEN THE POOL'S OFFLINE, WE MOST LIKELY WILL LOSE REVENUE ON OUR ROOM RENTALS AS A RESULT. BUT WE ANTICIPATE WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT GETTING SOME PRODUCTS BACK OR FEATURES BACK ONLINE AND INCREASING WHAT THE, UM, THE APPEARANCE OF THE FACILITY AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE OFFERING THERE WILL HOPEFULLY OFFSET THAT. BUT BEING OFF, UH, ANTICIPATED SIX WEEKS IS GONNA IMPACT OUR REV, OUR RENTAL REVENUE. UM, SO JUST WANNA MAKE NOTE OF THAT. UM, SEVEN 17, I TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE. WE ARE PROJECTING TO, UH, AN INCREASE FOR NEXT YEAR BASED ON DOING OUR WATER, OUR WATER BOTTLE SALES YEAR ROUND AND CONTINUE TO OFFER THAT PROGRAM. UM, AND THEN EIGHT 18 IF YOU WANNA HEAD DOWN TO THAT ONE. UH, SO THIS ONE, UH, IS AS FAR AS, UM, AN INCREASE IN, IN THIS SECTION GOES FOR OUR MISCELLANEOUS PROGRAM. SO I'LL HIGHLIGHT THAT ONE. SO THIS IS A DECISION PACKAGE PART OF OUR SWIM LESSON. SO YOU WON'T NECESSARILY SEE A MAJOR INCREASE HERE AT THE MOMENT. IT LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR 'CAUSE WE HAD THE CONTRACT PROGRAM. MM-HMM, . UM, SO CURRENTLY WITHOUT THE DECISION PACKAGE, IT LOOKS LIKE A, A REDUCE IN REVENUE, BUT WITH THE DECISION PACKAGE WE ANTICIPATE IT ACTUALLY BRINGING US MORE REVENUE. SO THAT'S JUST UP TO, UH, COUNCIL TO DECIDE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANT US TO PROCEED WITH. UM, AND THEN, UH, LINE 900 IS ANOTHER BIG ONE. YOU WON'T ACTUALLY SEE THE PERCENTAGE JUMP THERE. UH, PER ALCS UH, APPROVAL, THE REC CENTER CAN MAINTAIN A FUND BALANCE UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. UH, AND SO WE JUST WANNA PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET AND ANTICIPATE THAT IF IT DOES HAPPEN, THIS NUMBER COULD CHANGE BASED ON WHAT OUR ACTUAL IS. UH, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THE NEED FOR TAPPING INTO OUR FUND BALANCE TO CONTINUE IMPROVEMENTS AND ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE REC CENTER, WHICH WILL MAKES MORE SENSE WHEN I GET TO DECISION PACKAGES OF WHAT THAT NEED IS. SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT NUMBER COULD CHANGE ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THAT END OF YEAR NUMBER IS, WE WOULD REFLECT THAT IF IT'S LOWER THAN, UH, HOWEVER, IF THAT FUND BALANCE IS HIGHER, WE WOULD, WE JUST WOULD LEAVE THAT NUMBER THERE. UM, SO THERE'S THAT. AND THEN LAST ONE I'LL POINT OUT IS, UH, KIND OF ALLUDE TO, AS MEGAN TALKED ABOUT, UM, CURRENTLY AS FAR AS OUR A BLC TRANSFER THAT WE ANTICIPATE, IT ACTUALLY HAS ABOUT A $30,000 DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, UM, BASED ON, UH, OR SORRY, BASED FROM THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR TO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR NEXT YEAR. UH, AND THAT MAINLY IS BASED ON INCREASED REVENUE AND TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR COST. UH, BUT AGAIN, AS WE TALK ABOUT DECISION PACKAGES AND GET DIRECTION THERE, THAT NUMBER WILL, WILL, UH, CHANGE AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR REVENUES, IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT, JUST THE DECISION PACKAGE OF THE 20,000 FOR THE SWIM LESSONS, WHERE'S THE COST? UM, AT, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. IT IS UNDER CONTRACT LABOR 98. UM, SO THAT'S [03:20:01] A, THE, THE COST THAT ASSOCIATED BECAUSE WE'RE DOING INTERNAL WILL BE PART-TIME STAFF. SO THERE'S A, SO IT'S JUST ADDED REVENUE WITH THE SAME STAFF. YOU'RE NOT ADDING ANY STAFF. WE WILL ADD STAFF BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO WORK ADDITIONAL HOURS TO, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO BE LIFEGUARDS AND, UH, CONDUCT THE CLASS. SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT'LL BE MORE REVENUE. SO THAT ONE IS, UH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, 150% COST RECOVERY. OKAY. SO THE COST THAT IF, WHEN WE GET TO DECISION PACKAGE, YOU'LL SEE IT, I BELIEVE, TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK THE DECISION PACKAGE IS A $9,000 COST ASSOCIATED, BUT ADDING $20,000 FOR THAT PROGRAM. SO YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? REVENUE. ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA PASS THAT OFF FOR YOU FOR OUR EXPENSES. SO YOU TOOK THE GOOD PART, THE REVENUE , I HAVE TO GO TO DECISION PACKAGES AFTER, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO DRAW THIS OFF. YEAH, THANKS. SHORT AND STRONG. GOOD MORNING. I WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE EXPENSES. I'M GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT. SO FIRST ONE YOU'LL SEE, FIRST ONE YOU'LL SEE IS, UM, INCREASES IN PART-TIME. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND THAT'S DUE TO THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT JASON SAID HE WAS GONNA DISCUSS. NEXT, UM, UH, THE NEXT ONE IS A, A ONE 10 INCIDENT COUNT ONE 10, WHICH IS A INCREASE TO, UM, OVERTIME BUDGET, WHICH IS TO, UM, WHICH IS REFLECTED BASED ON OUR STAFF SALARY RANGES, WHICH IS OUR, ON OUR INTERNAL STANDARD. UM, THE NEX IS INCREASED TO OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, WHICH BASED ON OUR HRS RECOMMENDATION. THE NEXT ONE IS ACCOUNT 1 65, WHICH IS BASED ON A THREE YEAR AVERAGE. UM, THEN ACCOUNT TWO 15. UM, THERE IS AN INCREASE TO POOL SUPPLIES, WHICH WOULD, WHICH WOULD BE TO REPLACE, UM, SAFETY AND TRAINING EQUIPMENT FOR OUR STAFF. THEN THE NEXT ONE IS AN INCREASE TO ACCOUNT 2 21, WHICH WILL BE TO COVER COMPUTER MONITORS, KEYBOARDS, AND TO ALSO REPLACE OUR MEMBERSHIP BADGE SCANNER AS WELL. UM, THE NEXT ONE IS AN INCREASE TO ACCOUNT THREE 10, UM, WHICH WOULD BE TO COVER OUR, OUR REPLACEMENT PLAN FOR TREADMILLS, WHICH WILL COVER THREE NEW TREADMILLS AND TWO NEW, TWO NEW ELLIPTICAL MACHINES INSIDE OF THE WEIGHT ROOM. UM, THE NEXT ONE IS FOR ACCOUNT THREE 20, WHICH WOULD BE FOR BUILDING MAINTENANCE. AND THAT WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR OUR, UM, FACILITY, UM, HVAC SYSTEM. THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, ACCOUNT 4 0 5. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, PHONES FOR ALL OF OUR FULL-TIME STAFF, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE A MEANS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EVERYBODY, UM, WHEN DURING AFTER HOURS FOR RENTALS, UM, FACILITY CLOSURES, SHELTER NEEDS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM, THE NEXT ACCOUNT YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN IS FOUR 12. AND THAT'S SO THAT WE CAN START PROVIDING MORE FIRST AID CPR AND SHADOW WATER LIFEGUARDING CLASSES TO ACCOMMODATE FOR COMMUNITY REQUESTS. THE NEXT ACCOUNT THAT YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN IS FOUR 14, WHICH WOULD BE TO PROVIDE NEW, UM, PROMOTIONAL EVENTS SUCH AS SOMETHING WE WOULD TRY TO DO THIS SUMMER OR WE WANT TO DO THE SUMMER IS THE A RC APPRECIATION EVENT. AND THEN BRING IT BACK FULL COURT FRIDAY. UM, THE NEXT ACCOUNT THAT YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN IS FOUR 20, WHICH WILL COVER OUR WIN TO WORK. UM, SUBSCRIPTION DUES INCREASE. THE NEXT ACCOUNT AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IS 4 25, WHICH IS TRAVEL AND TRAINING TO COVER THE COST FOR NRPA BEING AND TWICE IN A FISCAL YEAR. UM, NEXT IS 4 56 AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'LL COVER OUR CONTRACTED LABOR. UM, SO WE ARE MOVING FUNDS TO COVER IT BEING COVER OUR CONTRACTED LABOR, UM, CLEANING FOR A FULL YEAR, NOT JUST FOR SIX MONTHS. THE NEXT IS IN 4 57. UM, DUES ARE BEING MOVED FROM THIS ACCOUNT FOR THE CONTRACTED LABOR, WHICH WAS COMING FROM, UH, SORRY FOR INSTRUCTORS. THE NEXT IS 4 5 0 7, WHICH IS OUR BUILDING INSURANCE. AND THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION BY HR AND TMI. AND THE NEXT IS FIVE 10, WHICH IS THE STANDARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO, THAT WILL GIVE, UH, $25 FOR PART-TIME STAFF AND A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR FULL-TIME STAFF, WHICH IS OUR EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION ACCOUNT. AND LAST IS FIVE 20, WHICH IS THE ACCOUNT THAT JASON PREVIOUS MENTIONED THAT WILL COVER THAT COMES FROM OUR A BLC FUND. SORRY IF THAT WAS FAST . SHE TOLD YOU SHE DID. YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA GO FAST. I APPRECIATE THAT. I AM SO SORRY. THAT WAS FAST. YEAH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I CAN SLOW DOWN AND ANSWER THEM. OH, I GOT QUESTIONS [03:25:04] Y'ALL WANNA GO FIX? OH WAIT, DON'T YOU, I'M JUST GONNA GO AFTER THE CLEANING. I WANT TO SEE, I WANNA KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT BRINGING THAT IN-HOUSE. I MEAN, THAT'S ALMOST A FULL-TIME HEAD RIGHT THERE. SO IT, SORRY. OKAY. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS IN-HOUSE. UM, WE MOVED IT TO CONTRACTED CLEANING TO, UM, ENSURE QUALITY. UM, WE'VE NOTICED THAT MOVING IT TO A, IN A CONTRACTED CLEANING SERVICE, THE STANDARD OF CLEANING, CLEANING HAS BEEN CONSISTENT. UM, THE CLEANING LADY, WE EVEN THE ONE OF THE DECISION PACKAGE PACKAGES IS ASKING TO HAVE HER COME EVEN AT, UM, EVEN AFTER HOURS OR AFTER HER FOUR O'CLOCK TIME DURING THE SUMMER. SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT CONSISTENCY AFTER PEAK HOURS OR PEAK HOURS DURING THE SUMMERTIME BECAUSE SHE'S SO GOOD AT HER JOB. UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE MOVED FROM KEEPING IT IN-HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY THAT WE HAVE WHEN SHE'S THERE CLEANING. IS IT, SO THIS CONTRACT, IS SHE JUST A SINGLE EMPLOYEE OR IS SHE A PART OF SOME COMPANY THAT Y'ALL UTILIZE? IT'S A, IT'S A COMPANY. SO WHEN SHE ISN'T THERE, SO SAY IF SHE SOMEBODY ELSE WILL COME, SOMEONE ELSE WILL COME. SO WHEN WE HAD SOMEBODY THERE, SHE DIDN'T SAY OF OUR CLEANING LADY THAT WAS ON STAFF, IF SHE WAS SICK, WE HAD, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CLEANING LADY FOR A DAY. SO IF WE WERE, IF THE CITY WAS CLOSED OR IF WE WERE OFF, IF IT WAS A HOLIDAY, THERE WAS NOBODY THERE TO CLEAN. SO WE ALSO KEEP THAT AS WELL. SO WHAT WE FOUND TOO IS WHEN YOU HAD ONE PERSON DOING EVERYTHING, THEY, THEY GO ON VACATION FOR TWO WEEKS AND YOU GOT, WE GOT NOTHING OR THEY GET SICK AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE, WE'VE MIGRATED TO CONTRACT WHERE YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA GET SOMEONE IF THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE GOT THE ANNOTATIONS TO SAY YOU'RE NOT PERFORMING AND WE CAN REVIEW THEIR CONTRACT AND GO OUT FOR SOMEONE ELSE. JOHN, I WILL MENTION WITH THAT ONE AS WELL. UM, SO THAT WASN'T AN ACTUAL INCREASE IN THE COST FOR LAST YEAR. WE WORKED WITHIN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. RECOGNIZING THAT THERE WAS A GREATER NEED TO SERVE OUR FACILITY, UH, ESPECIALLY AFTER INCREASES WE SAW OVER THE YEAREND USAGE OF THE FACILITY. UM, SO WE FIGURED OUT INTERNALLY HOW WE COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN. UM, TO BE ABLE TO NOT INCREASE BUDGETS BUT STAY WITHIN TO BE ABLE TO COVER THAT SAME SERVICE. IT JUST LOOKS A LITTLE WONKY 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUDGET IN PREVIOUS YEARS. RIGHT. YEP. JUST SEEMS, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. HOW MANY HOURS IS THIS PERSON PUTTING IN? 30? THE CURRENT ONE? YEAH, IT FULL TIME. FULL TIME? YEAH. WELL, UH, IT'S CONTRACTED WHERE WE, WE DO 35 HOURS A WEEK. 35 HOURS. YEP. 35 HOURS. BUT WE DON'T PAY INSURANCE COSTS THAT GO WITH THAT. RIGHT. ADDITIONAL THAT COMES ON TOP OF THAT. SO, UM, I THINK WHEN WE RUN THE NUMBERS, I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. THEY CAME IN A LITTLE BIT LOWER TOO. INSTEAD OF HAVING A PERSONNEL ON STAFF, UM, IT, IT SAVED US, UH, WITH THAT. OKAY. EXPLAIN LINE FOUR 20 PLEASE. DUES AND SUBSCRIPTION. YES SIR. EXPLAIN THAT. OH, EXPLAIN. UM, DUES AND SUBSCRIPTION. SO WINTER THAT WE USE TO SCHEDULE STAFF, UM, PART-TIME STAFF, NOT FULL-TIME. AND WE MAIN, WE USE THIS ONE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS STAFF TO USE, USE SWABS. SO PAYLOCITY AT THE TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE USED WINTER WORK VERSUS THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. SO IT JUST GIVES THEM MORE FUNCTIONS. YEAH. WELL WHAT'S YOUR DECISION PACKAGE? WHAT ARE YOU WANTING TO DO? YOU WANTING TO ADD? SO, OH, THAT IS FOR, SORRY. YEAH, THAT IS FOR THAT ONE. A SOFT, THAT'S FOR A SUBSCRIPTION FOR, UM, A FITNESS PROGRAM. SO ADDING MORE SERVICES FOR MEMBERS. YEAH, THAT'S FROM A SEPARATE ONE. IT'S A SEPARATE DECISION. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, UH, WENT TO WORK. YOU GOOD? IT'S OVER DOUBLE MM-HMM. DO YOU OVER YOU MORE THAN DOUBLE SOMETHING ONE YEAR. YOU EXPECT THE QUESTION? YEAH. AND I REALLY DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER, BUT YOU ANSWERED WHATEVER YOU COULD. I DUNNO. SO IF WE CAN GO BACK, I MEAN WE CAN GO BACK TO IT. SO, UH, SCROLL DOWN TO FOUR 20 AGAIN FOR ME, PHIL. UM, SO THIS ONE AND THIS ONE SHOULD, IT MAY JUST BE BECAUSE OF THE DECISION PACKAGE THAT IS COMING INTO PLAY FOR IT. SO, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT [03:30:01] THE DECISION PACKAGE. IT IS NOT RELATED TO ANY OF THE ONES THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE HERE. SO COMING OUT OF THIS ONE WOULD BE, UM, OUR TRAPS MEMBERSHIP, OUR NRPA MEMBERSHIP FOR STAFF, UM, WHEN TO WORK SCHEDULING SOFTWARE OR THE TVS AT THE REC CENTER ARE OUT OF HERE AS WELL AS FAR AS CABLE GOES. UM, SO THOSE HAVE BEEN TYPICAL YEAR OVER YEAR ONES. THE DECISION PACKAGE ONE IS ONE THAT ADDS TO THAT. IF YOU'LL 'CAUSE LAST, THAT NUMBER LAST PIT DECISION MADE HERE TO GO. THIS JUST CONTINUES TO BE MY PIT. MM-HMM. YEAR AFTER YEAR, SOFTWARE YEAR. I JUST HAVE TO HOLD THE WHOLE SITE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON EXPENSES? OH YEAH. 1 0 6 PART-TIME SALARIES DECISION PACKAGE. WELL, I WANNA UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR SALARIES AND YOUR PART-TIME SALARIES. YOUR SALARIES IS EVERYONE WHO'S A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE THAT'S AT THE REC CENTER CURRENTLY? YES. THE PART-TIME IS YOUR SWIM INSTRUCTOR OR LIFEGUARDS? LIFEGUARDS, UH, FRONT DESK, DESK CLERKS, FACILITY ASSISTANTS. THAT'S, THAT'S, YEAH, SO THAT'S ALL OP, THAT'S ALL JUST ANGLE 10 RECREATION CENTER OPERATIONS. OKAY. 'CAUSE YOU BUDGETED THIS YEAR, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE DECISION PACKAGE FROM PRIOR YEAR WAS IN THERE, BUT 2 94 AND YOU'RE GONNA BE AT 180 8 AND SO YOU'RE BUDGETING ANOTHER 180 8. FAIR ENOUGH. SO I WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT REAL QUICK IF I CAN. THAT 2 94 WAS ACTUALLY NOT ACCURATE. WHAT WAS BUDGETED FOR US? THAT WAS BASED ON, UH, THE SOFTWARES CALCULATION. UM, WHAT WE LEARNED LAST YEAR IS THE WAY THE SOFTWARE CALCULATED WAS CALCULATING EVERYBODY AT 40 HOURS A WEEK. SO IF WE HAD 10 STAFF MEMBERS, BECAUSE WE HAVE PART-TIME STAFF THAT THEY CAN'T ALL WORK THE, UH, ONE SHIFT, RIGHT? SO WE GET A NUMBER, WE OVER SOMETIMES HAVE MORE STAFF ON HAND TO COVER THE OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE GO OVER HOURS. THE WAY THAT WE OPERATE IS BASED ON HOURS. SO WHEN WE PUT OUR PROJECTIONS IN, WE SAY ARBITRARY NUMBER OF, WE HAVE A THOUSAND HOURS THAT WE'RE HAVE FOR THE YEAR. WE STAY WITHIN A THOUSAND HOURS AT A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF WHAT THAT WOULD IMPACT FOR STAFF. OKAY. AND THEN SO THAT WASN'T CORRECT. SO THAT'S WHEN YOU SEE THE, UH, ESTIMATE THAT WE PUT IN THERE AND WE PUT THIS IN FOR A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT WAS TO REDUCE THAT AMOUNT, UH, DOWN TO WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD, UH, PUT IN THERE, UM, TO GET US TO THAT NUMBER. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE ESTIMATE FOR THIS YEAR AND THE ACTUAL FAC NEXT YEAR ARE THE SAME, UM, WITHOUT DECISION PACKAGES. THAT THAT WAS A, A SOFTWARE ERROR. OKAY. SO YEAH, THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD. SAME, SIMILAR THING TO THE, THE, THE FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBER NOT BEING IN THERE. UM, IT WAS, WE CAUGHT THAT AND SAID, YEP, THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO 'CAUSE IT, IT DIDN'T EVEN BALANCE WITH OUR A BLC BALANCE TRANSFER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. LIKE IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE. 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T, UH, THE NUMBERS DIDN'T REFLECT IN THAT TRANSFER OF ANYTHING. SO WE, WE DID A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TO JUST REDUCE WHAT THAT TOTAL WAS. YEAH. THIS SOFTWARE SHOULD BE PULLING IN FROM INCODE OF WHAT WE BUDGETED TO MAKE IT ACTUAL, I MEAN THE, WE MADE DECISIONS LAST YEAR OFF OF INCODE AND TO SEE A BUDGET THAT'S NOT REFLECTED CORRECTLY IS IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DECISION PACKAGE OF 2 42 FOR, I MEAN FOR 4 1 0 6 4 1 0 6, YOU'RE ADDING ANOTHER 242,000 TO THIS. UM, YEAH, SO THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY MULTIPLE ONES. UM, SO TO KINDA, I'LL BREAK THOSE DOWN FOR YOU. DO YOU WANNA JUMP INTO THAT NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO ANY OTHER EXPENSES? I THINK WE'LL JUMP INTO IT NOW. OKAY, PERFECT. WE'RE, YEP, NO FAR ENOUGH. UM, SO I'M GONNA BREAK THESE DOWN AS, AS BEST I CAN THERE, THERE'S REALLY TWO CATEGORIES OF 'EM, BUT WE'LL JUMP INTO THAT, THAT PERSONNEL PIECE THAT GOES WITH IT. SO THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT PIECES THAT ARE PART OF THAT. UH, IN REFERENCE TO WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ON. UM, THERE IS AN ANNUAL RETENTION PLAN INCREASE. THERE IS THE LIFEGUARD AND SLIDE COVERAGE YEAR ROUND. UH, THERE'S WATER SAFETY INSTRUCTORS, AQUATIC ASSISTANCE FACILITY ASSISTANCE. AND, UH, THE ADDITIONAL ONE IS THE LIFEGUARD, UM, REDUCED PLAN. UM, SO THESE ARE ALL DECISION PACKAGES. SO WHEN WE FIRST PUT OUR BUDGET TOGETHER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DETERMINED IS THAT THERE'S A, A DEFICIENCY IN ENSURING THE SAFETY AND LIABILITY THAT IS COVERAGE FOR OUR FACILITY, MAINLY FOR THE, THE LIFEGUARDS. UH, SO THE EXAMPLE I GIVE IS WE HAVE A VERY LARGE AND BEAUTIFUL POOL. TWO LIFEGUARDS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF COVERAGE TO ENSURE SAFETY FOR THAT SPACE. UM, AND SO WHEN WE HAVE NORMAL, UH, ASSESSMENTS THAT COME IN, TML COME AND DOES [03:35:01] THEIR ASSESSMENT AS FAR AS, UH, ASSESSING LIABILITY, UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THEY IDENTIFIED AND THEN THERE WAS AN ASSESSMENT DONE, UH, UTILIZING RED CROSS STANDARDS AND IDENTIFIED THE SAME ISSUE. UH, SO WE INITIALLY CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT THE LIFEGUARD INCREASE. SO LINE NUMBER TWO YOU SEE THERE, UH, IS THIS IS TO GET US TO FIVE LIFEGUARDS YEAR ROUND WHILE THE POOL'S IN OPERATION. ADDITION TO THAT, UH, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT OUR SLIDE BASED ON HOW THE STRUCTURE OF OUR SLIDE IS, IT REQUIRES A SLIDE ATTENDANT TO BE AT THE TOP AT ALL TIMES OF OPERATION. SO THAT WOULD BE ADDING ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER TO, TO PUT THAT IN THERE. SO THAT IS THE PACKAGE NUMBER TWO. SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT FULL NUMBER, IT DOESN'T, THAT WOULD BE IF YOU APPROVED EVERYTHING. UH, HOWEVER, I WILL POINT OUT PACKAGE NUMBER TWO AND SEVEN ARE TWO OF THE SAME PACKAGES. SO AFTER GOING TO A BLC AND THEY'RE BRINGING IT TO THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDATION WAS EXPLORE AVENUES, UM, THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY REDUCE THOSE COSTS. SO STAFF CAME IN. AND SO FOR, UH, NUMBER SEVEN IS TO, THIS IS LIKE A STEP PLAN TO GET US THERE. AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE REVENUE INCREASES OVER THE YEAR, IT'LL, IT'LL MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PALATABLE TO TAKE ON EACH TIME. ULTIMATELY, GOAL IS TO GET US TO NUMBER TWO IS THAT WE HAVE FULL COVERAGE TO ENSURE THAT THE SAFETY OF OUR PATRONS UTILIZING THE SPACE IS ALWAYS THERE. UM, AGAIN, OUR OUR POOL IS BEAUTIFUL. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMES UP ABOUT THAT IS LIKE, CAN'T WE CLOSE SECTIONS? UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S ONE BODY OF WATER. SO IF ANYBODY GOES INTO THE POOL, THEY CAN GO TO ANY POINT, EVEN THOUGH WE SAY NO, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE POOL. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE COVERAGE, THAT IS THE LIABILITY THAT WE COVER. UM, SO NUMBER SEVEN IS TO GET US THERE TO ADD STAFF AND CONTINUE TO ADD OR ADD THROUGHOUT THAT WE WOULD DO A TIER APPROACH TO GET US THERE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT. FIRST GET THE SLIDE COVERAGE THAT ANYTIME THE SLIDE IS IN OPERATION, IT WOULD HAVE A SLIDE ATTENDANT AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE. UH, AND THEN WE WOULD INCREASE OUR LIFEGUARDING STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ADD, UH, DURING OUR PEAK USAGE, HAVE FIVE AT ALL TIMES. AND THEN OUR SLOWER TIMES, WE WOULD START TO INCREASE ONE AT A TIME UNTIL WE GOT TO THAT POINT TO DETERMINE DO WE LOOK AT HOURS OF OPERATION? DO WE START TO CLOSE DIFFERENT TIMES? HOW DO, HOW DO WE NAVIGATE SOME OF THAT? BECAUSE SAME THING, LIKE WHEN WE RAN NUMBERS AND PUT THAT IN THERE, IT, IT'S, IT'S A HUGE JUMP. UM, BUT PART OF OUR JOB IS TO BRING THAT, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THAT SAFETY AND LIABILITY THAT COMES WITH IT AND MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THOSE AND WHERE WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO BE. SO THE, THE, THE DIRECTION THAT I MIGHT FOLLOW ON THIS IS WHAT'S, WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S THE UTILIZATION OF THE FACILITY AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW? LOOK AT THAT WITH MEMBERSHIP COSTS, BECAUSE THESE THINGS RIGHT HERE ARE GOING TO BE ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA WARRANT A MEMBERSHIP, AN INCREASE IN MEMBERSHIP COST. MM-HMM. , UH, BECAUSE THIS IS DIRECTLY RELATED MM-HMM. TO, YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT THAT ITEM AND ONE OF THE, UH, STAFF ARE WORKING ON, UH, ANNUALLY, WE GO THROUGH AND DO A, A FEE ASSESSMENT FOR ALL OUR FEES. UH, ALTHOUGH THE REC CENTER WAS ONE THAT TYPICALLY WAS GONNA BE A FIVE YEAR INCREASE, UM, WE KNOW WITH THIS THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO CORRELATE SOME OF THAT. SO WE'RE HOPEFUL TO BE ABLE TO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT YOU TO DO. BUT WHEN YOU RUN INTO TO, TO A WALL LIKE THIS MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, ALL BETS ARE OFF. YEP. YEAH. BUT THAT THE FEE, THE, UH, THAT FEE PORTION COMES IN, IT'S ANTICIPATED TO BE SEPTEMBER. AND SO, AND SO HOW, HOW ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS MEMBERSHIPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AND ADDRESS THAT IN A SEPARATE, WE JUST WANT TO PRESENT WHAT, WHAT THE FUTURE WE THINK THE FUTURE NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE BASED ON I WAS JUST ASKING PO POSITIVE, UH, YEAH. MEMBERSHIPS. YEAH. WE'RE DOING WELL. SO EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE MEMBERSHIP WISE, TWO YEARS AGO, TOTAL MEMBERSHIP REVENUE. SO FROM FY 22 TO WHAT WE PROJECT NOW, WE'RE ANTICIPATING IT BEING IT'S ABOUT AN 89% INCREASE ON REVENUE FROM MEMBERSHIPS. WELL THEN IN THAT, IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION, WE WOULDN'T EXPECT A, A RATE INCREASE TO AFFECT OUR MEMBERSHIPS. MM-HMM. . AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT NOW. MM-HMM. INSTEAD OF AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK. YEAH. UH, BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO DO THAT. MM-HMM. . YEAH. SO, UM, THIS JUST ON NUMBER TWO. YEP. IS THAT FULL-TIME OR 40 HOURS? WELL, HOW DID YOU CALCULATE THAT? UH, THAT IS BASED ON HOURS OF OPERATION AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO COVER THE POOL THROUGHOUT OPERATION AT FIVE GUARDS THE WHOLE TIME, THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THE POOL IS OPEN. BUT YOU'RE NOT FULL-TIME PEOPLE, NOT FULL-TIME PEOPLE. RIGHT. BUT YOUR, YOUR FACILITY USAGE ISN'T, I MEAN, YOUR POOL DOESN'T OPEN IN THE MORNING AT THE, AT PEAK CAPACITY ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE DAY AT PEAK CAPACITY. SO THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU COULD PROBABLY DO TO MITIGATE AND HELP. AND SO THAT'S THE PART OF NUMBER SEVEN IS THE MORNING. WE WOULDN'T START WITH THE FIVE MM-HMM. . UM, YEAH. BUT IDEALLY, C WE [03:40:01] TALKED ABOUT IDEALLY THAT'S LONG TERM, RIGHT? IS WE SHOULD BE THERE. 'CAUSE I MEAN, NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA FLOCK TO THE POOL AT 5:00 AM . SOME DO A BLC. WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, EVEN LOOKING AT COLDER MONTHS MM-HMM. UM, SHORTENING THE WINDOW. I KNOW A LOT OF SERVICES GET PROVIDED IN THE MORNING MM-HMM. BUT IT'S NOT USED AS HEAVILY IN THE EVENINGS. 'CAUSE PARENTS DON'T TAKE THEIR KIDS AT, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR 6:00 PM WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, YEAH. IT'S BELOW 60 DEGREES OUTSIDE BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY TO HEAT THE POOL. SO YEAH. IT'S JUST, SO YOU MAY LOOK AT MORE SEASONAL OPERATION OF THE POOL TOO. AND THAT DOESN'T ALLEVIATE, UM, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THAT'S A GREAT POINT. LIKE IF WE DO, WE'RE PLANNING SWIM LESSONS YEAR ROUND, RIGHT. UH, WE COULD BE STRATEGIC ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND MAYBE THAT AWA OPERATIONS ONLY ONCE ONE LESSONS IS HAPPENING. AND SO YOU'RE HAVING A TWOFOLD REVENUE PIECE THAT COMES FROM IT. UM, BUT YES, TWO IS IS THE BIG ONE THAT, THAT IS THE GOAL THAT WE SHOULD BE OBTAINING TO GET TO, TO ENSURE WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE COVERAGE. UM, IT, I WISH OUR, SOMETIMES OUR POOL WAS A SQUARE 'CAUSE YOU COULD MITIGATE SOME OF THAT, BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY BLIND SPOTS WITHIN THE FACILITY THAT IT'S, YOU, WE ARE UNFORTUNATELY A REPORT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF COVERAGE. SO, SO I'LL JUST SAY AS A LAWYER, THE FACT THAT WE'RE EVEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION MM-HMM. AND BEING PUBLIC AND BEING RECORDED, WE'RE ON NOTICE AND IF SOMETHING EVER HAPPENS, WE ARE INDEED IF WE DON'T TAKE REMEDIAL STEPS. SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BRING THIS BACK AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT OVERALL OPERATIONS AND MEMBERSHIPS AND THEN ADDRESSING RISK, ADDRESSING USAGE TIMES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS SO THAT Y'ALL CAN MAKE SOME DECISIONS. YEAH. AND WE'RE HAP LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING BACK MORE TO BE ABLE TO DECIPHER THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND, AND NAVIGATE THAT. SO, UM, BUT INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL TRY TO TICK THROUGH A FEW MORE IF THAT'S OKAY. UM, SO NUMBER ONE, UH, UH, THIS YEAR WE STARTED TO DEVELOPING A ANNUAL RETENTION PLAN IN HOPES TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN PART-TIME STAFF. UH, SO THE NUMBER THAT YOU SEE THERE IS REFLECTIVE OF GIVING 10 PART-TIME STAFF BASED ON CURRENT NUMBERS OF WHO WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR BEING HERE FOR A YEAR. THEY WOULD GET A 25 CENT INCREASE JUST FOR PART-TIME STAFF. UH, SO THAT'S ALL CONTINGENT BASED ON HOW MANY STAFF ARE HERE. THAT WAS NUMBERS WE RAN. 10 WAS OUR CURRENT NUMBER. I'M HOPEFUL IT'S STILL 10, BUT, UH, THAT REFLECTS THAT A 25 CENT INCREASE FOR THEM FOR, UH, RETENTION PURPOSES. UM, NUMBER THREE, UH, IS WATER SAFETY INSTRUCTOR. SO THIS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS CORRELATION TO WHERE IT WAS BEFORE, IS AS FAR AS EXPENSE AND REVENUE, THERE IS A DECISION PACKAGE FOR REVENUE THAT GOES WITH THIS. UH, SO IN ORDER FOR US TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THAT, UH, SERVICE OF GROUP SWIM LESSONS TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, WE WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE THE WATER SAFETY INSTRUCTOR COST TO THAT. UH, SO THAT IS JUST FOR WATER SAFETY. THEY ARE RESERVED TO JUST THE PROGRAM. AND WHEN THE PROGRAM IS IN OPERATION, UH, AQUATIC ASSISTANCE, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE LIFEGUARDS, UM, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE POOL HAS A CERTIFIED POOL OPERATOR, UH, THROUGHOUT AT ALL TIMES. UH, WE CURRENTLY DON'T OPERATE UNDER THAT MODEL. UH, TWO STAFF MEMBERS DO HAVE THEIR CPO, UM, AQUA OR AQUATIC MANAGER IS THE MAIN ONE. BUT WHEN HE'S GONE, HE'S THE ONE THAT HAS TO COME BACK CONSTANTLY TO ADJUST THINGS AND DO REPAIRS AND, AND MAINTENANCE. UH, SO WE'RE REQUESTING TO HAVE AN AQUATIC ASSISTANT PART-TIME, EVENING AND WEEKENDS THAT WOULD SUPPORT OPERATIONS TO ENSURE THAT, UH, WE CAN KEEP UPKEEP THE POOL. WELL, UH, THEY WOULD ASSIST WITH PROGRAMMING AND ASSIST WITH OVERSIGHT OF THE, UH, THE LIFEGUARDS AND, UM, THE SWIM LESSONS. AND IF WE WERE TO DO A SPLASH PAD AT ABIGAIL, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO COVER THAT ALSO? YEAH, THAT WOULD, COULD BE SUPPORT, UH, FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY WOULD, WE'RE INCUR, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THEM TO HAVE A CPO, UM, SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP, UH, UH, WITH THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR. YEP, ABSOLUTELY. UH, FACILITY ASSISTANT HOURS. THIS ONE IS, UH, CURRENTLY WE ARE, UH, LIMITED AS FAR AS, UH, STAFFING HOURS GO. SO OUR FACILITY WORK ASSISTANTS ARE SEEN AS A SUPERVISOR ON DUTY IN THE EVENING AND WEEKEND. UM, THEY ARE CURRENTLY STRAPPED BY 20 HOURS A WEEK. UH, AND SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL TASKS THAT WE, WE ASK THEM TO DO AS FAR AS SAFETY AND MAINTENANCE FOR THE FACILITY. SO WE, THIS REQUEST IS TO GET THEM TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK UP TO 28 HOURS, WHICH THEN PUSHES THEM INTO THE ABILITY OR TO GET, UM, TMRS SO IT ACCOUNTS FOR THEIR HOURS AND FOR TMRS IS INCLUDED THERE. UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS, UH, CUSTODIAN. WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE BEFORE. THIS IS THE DECISION PACKAGE TO ADD, UH, CUSTODIAN DURING THE SUMMER EVENING HOURS. UH, WE HAVE SEEN THAT, OH, THE TREND THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS AS PEOPLE ARE COMING LONGER TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY. [03:45:01] SO WE'RE SEEING A GREATER PARTICIPATION, UH, FROM MORNING TO EVENING. SO TO, UH, HELP ENSURE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE. OUR CURRENT CUSTODIAN, UH, LEAVES AT THREE. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT INCREASED USAGE DURING PEAK TIME IS STILL BEING MAINTAINED TO ENSURE THAT, UH, WE HAVE THOSE LEVELS OF EXPECTATIONS ARE STILL MET. UM, NUMBER SEVEN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, I'M GONNA JUMP TO NUMBER 18 QUICK AND I'LL DO THE REST OF THEM ALL TOGETHER. UH, NUMBER 18. SO THAT WAS THE ONE THAT YOU, UH, HAD MENTIONED AS FAR AS THE SOFTWARE FEATURE GOES. SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO US PART OF ANGLETON UNIVERSITY. ONE OF THE, UM, PARTICIPANTS PROPOSED THIS AS A PART OF THEIR CAPSTONE. SO WE WANTED TO INCLUDE IT TO SEE, TO SHOW WHAT THE, THE BENEFITS AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT WOULD BE. THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION CALLED LES MILLS THAT IS A, A WELL-KNOWN ORGANIZATION AS FAR AS FISHER INSTRUCTORS GO. UM, THERE'S SOME PRETTY HEFTY REQUIREMENTS THAT COME WITH IT. AND SO THIS PACKAGE OUTLINES, UH, WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR US AS FAR AS GETTING THE PROGRAM, GETTING THE SOFTWARE, PAYING FOR THE FEE AND FOR THE EQUIPMENT. UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ONE IS A THREE YEAR TREND, UM, BECAUSE THE FIRST INITIAL STARTUP DOES COST YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GET YOU THE EQUIPMENT AND MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE SUPPLEMENT CO A COST FROM THERE. UM, ALTHOUGH MAYBE A GREAT ADD-ON, YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE NUMBER 18 FOR US. UM, THERE'S SOME PRIORITIES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PRIOR TO THAT. UM, AND THEN ITEM EIGHT THROUGH 17, 19 AND 20, I'M GONNA ALL LUMP ALL THOSE TOGETHER. UH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO COUNCIL THE NEEDS OF OUR FACILITY AND WHAT THINGS, UH, NEED IMPROVEMENTS OR RENOVATIONS. UH, WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN TACKLE A NUMBER OF THESE, IF NOT ALL OF THOSE, UH, WITH THE, UH, IF WE GET AWARDED THE GRANTS. UH, FOR THE TPW GRANT THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR, FOR THE INDOOR ONE, UH, WITH THE SUPPORT OF A BLC, THE BOND PROJECT WE'RE ABOUT AT 1.8 MILLION THAT WE COULD SEE DEDICATED TO FROM THE GRANT AND FROM A BLC COMBINED, UH, THAT WOULD HELP ADDRESS THESE. BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING, UH, TRANSPARENT ON WHAT THE NEED IS. UH, IN THE EVENT THAT THAT GRANT DOESN'T COME THROUGH, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR MAJOR MAINTENANCE NEEDS. SO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE DIRECTED STAFF IS FOR THE ALL THE HURRICANE DAMAGE, WE NEED TO START ADDING THEM AS DECISION PACKAGES. AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE STREET LIGHTS, AS WE DETERMINE IT'S NOT THEIR TOLL LOSS AND IT'S A REDUCED AMOUNT, WILL REDUCE THAT NUMBER OR SOLVE 'EM THROUGH BUDGET. BUDGETARY MEANS ANSWER ON ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DECISION PACKAGES, EXPENSES. OFF THE POINT, DID WE GET OUR DRAIN COVER IN FOR THE POOL? NO. UH, LAST UPDATE I RECEIVED WAS, UH, THEY RECEIVED SHIPPING CONFIRMATION, UH, BUT IT DID NOT ACTUALLY HAVE A, UM, ANTICIPATED DATE ON IT AT THE MOMENT. SO UNFORTUNATELY, UH, GOOD NEWS, IT'S NOT, IS IT RAINING OR THUNDERING? STILL . UM, BUT NO, IT IS NOT CURRENTLY IN. YEAH. SO, UM, LAST POINT I WILL POINT OUT IS, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. UH, AS FAR AS SOME OF THE REVENUES GO, UH, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT AS FAR AS OUR REVENUE PIECE, THERE IS GOING TO BE A SLIGHT DECREASE THAT WE ANTICIPATE THIS YEAR. SOME OF OUR NUMBERS, WE STILL FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GONNA HIT BECAUSE WE WERE CONSERVATIVE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE HITTING SOME OF THOSE. BUT BECAUSE OF THE SHELTER, WE, UM, SAW A LOSS OF REVENUE FROM DAY PASSES, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS JULY, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR PEAK TIMES. UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, UH, OFFERING TO MEMBERS AN EXTENSION OR A REFUND FOR THE TIME THAT THEY HAD LOST. SO, UM, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE A MAJOR GREAT IMPACT, BUT IT WILL IMPACT SOME OF THOSE REVENUE NUMBERS A LITTLE. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK Y'ALL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YEP. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU IN THE DEPARTMENT. YEAH. APPRECIATE ALL THE PRESENTATIONS. ALL RIGHT. LUNCH IS HERE GUYS. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK. IT IS 1220, SO YOU CAN BRING YOUR FOOD IN HERE AND EAT IF YOU WANT. AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA START OUT WITH THE, YOU KNOW, OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE EITHER, YOU KNOW, INITIATED, COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PHASES OF THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UM, AND TOUCH ON A FEW OTHER THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, UTILITY REVENUE AND THE IMPACT AND THINGS THAT HAVE IMPACTED THE UTILITY REVENUE THIS YEAR, JUST TO KIND OF HELP ENCOMPASS SOME OF THE DECISION PACKAGES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE INCORPORATED IN OUR BUDGET. UM, SO WITHIN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE 34 TOTAL EMPLOYEES. WE HANDLE WATER, SEWER, STREETS, DRAINAGE, [03:50:01] UH, YOU KNOW, THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED MILES OF LEARD ROADWAYS. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE 123 FEET OF WA UH, MILES OF WATERLINE THAT WE HAVE. 135 MILES OF SEWER LINE, 47 LIFT STATIONS, ALL THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, TREATMENT, UM, DISTRIBUTION COLLECTIONS, ALL INCORPORATED IN THIS DEPARTMENT. UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE LAST, THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, 22, 23 FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD 2,445 WORK ORDERS COME INTO US. UM, YOU KNOW, AS PUBLIC WORKS ISSUES, UM, ON OUR MONTHLY REPORTS, WE'RE SEEING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE AN AVERAGE OF 60 TO 75% OF THOSE EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT PUTS US AT ABOUT NEARLY 600 WORK ORDERS THAT WERE JUST NOT COMPLETED IN THAT YEAR. UM, YOU KNOW, FAST FORWARD TO THIS YEAR AND SO FAR TO DATE, WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED 2,598 WORK ORDERS. UM, SO THAT CURRENTLY LEAVES US WITH CLOSER TO 700 NOW COMPLETE AS OF INCOMPLETE AS OF NOW, BASED ON THE SAME TRAJECTORY. UM, SO JUST NEEDLESS TO SAY, WORKS THERE AND WORK HAS OFFICIALLY INCREASED. UM, YOU KNOW, NOW THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL FACTORS IMPACTING THAT, YOU KNOW, STORMS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT OBVIOUSLY DRIVES THOSE WORK ORDERS UP. BUT AGAIN, THERE IS A NEED FOR IT. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MOVING FORWARD TO, UH, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE UTILIZATION OF ARPA FUNDS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF SOLAR STREETLIGHTS IN PLACES, A LOT OF SIDEWALKS INSTALLED. UH, A LOT OF WORK DONE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY. UH, SOME SANITARY SEWER WORK THAT WAS DONE. AND ALSO A LOT OF WORK AT, UH, VARIOUS LIFT STATIONS. UM, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE A NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOLAR AND SIDEWALKS, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE, UM, UNFUNDED ITEMS. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE EXPENDED ARPA FUNDS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT FUNDED. UM, UH, WITH THE LAST STREET BOND THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS INITIATED, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, UM, A LOT OF STRIPING THAT WAS DONE. I BELIEVE WE WERE ABLE TO DO FOUR, FOUR MILES OF STRIPING ALTOGETHER THROUGHOUT TOWN. UH, WE COMPLETED THE PAVEMENT PROJECTS, HOSPITAL DOWNING, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, DUMAR AND MARITA STREETS, UH, PATCHWORK ON SOUTH BELL. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WERE INCORPORATED INTO THAT. UH, PACKAGE TWO, WHICH WAS SAN FELIPE CHEVY CHASE, THAT WAS COMPLETED DURING THIS PHYSICAL YEAR AS WELL, OR CLOSED OUT. UM, AND ALSO THE START OF PACKAGE NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS PARISH MILLER SILVER SADDLE. UM, OTHER PROJECTS ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA COMPLETE, UH, SCADA THIS SCADA THIS PHYSICAL YEAR THAT'S COMING UP PRETTY QUICK. WE'RE ALSO GONNA COMPLETE OUR LEAD AND COPPER INVENTORY, WHICH WAS EPA MANDATED ON US. UM, UH, COUNCIL HAS ALSO APPROVED FOR US TO COMPLETE THE REST OF THE METERS. THAT'S SOMETHING, THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE KICKING OFF THIS YEAR AND BE A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU KNOW, ALL ON A MI SMART METERS. THAT'S A GREAT WIN FOR US. UM, WE COMPLETED THE STREET ASSESSMENT ONE WAS COMPLETED IN 2017, AND WE DID ONE AGAIN IN 2023. IT'S GOOD TO DO IT EVERY FIVE YEARS. JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A PROJECTION OF HOW THESE STREETS HAVE DETERIORATED AND THAT ALSO PLAY A FACTOR IN UPCOMING BONDING AS WE, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO STREETS AND OTHER THINGS. WE WANNA USE THAT BONDING FOR, UM, UH, HENDERSON ROAD. IT'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE HAVE KICKED OFF OFFICIALLY THIS YEAR, AT LEAST STARTED ON, ON THAT PROJECT IN SOME CAPACITY. UM, AND WE ALSO, UH, ARE COMPLETE, ARE WORKING ON COMPLETING OF OUR UTILITY MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS GONNA CONVERT INTO IMPACT FEES, WHICH THAT'S GONNA HELP US OUT A LOT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS. AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO GET QUITE A FEW GRANTS THIS YEAR. UH, THE GLO GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED, THE NEARLY $1.8 MILLION FOR SANITARY SEWER REHABS. ALSO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE RECEIVING THIS YEAR THAT'S GONNA BE USED FOR SOME SANITARY SEWER REPAIRS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN. UM, AND ALSO THE TDOT GRANT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED TO, UH, REPLACE ALL THE SIDEWALKS DOWNTOWN. UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE PROJECTS AT ALL? YOU CAN DIVE INTO ANY OF 'EM. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO, UH, MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON UTILITY REVENUE AS WE DID BRING AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ON THE, ON THE STATE OF THE EXTRA UTILITY REVENUE THAT THE, THE INCREASES HAVE GENERATED. BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN UTILIZED ON, AND A BIG MAJORITY OF IT WAS U UH, UTILIZED ON, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY REPAIRS THAT WE HAD. WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MANHOLES COLLAPSE, UM, EMERGENCY LINE REPAIRS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WATER AND SEWER LINE REPAIRS. UM, AND ALSO, BUT IT DID ALSO WARN US SOME GREAT THINGS. IT, IT, UM, IT ALLOWED US TO, UH, PROVIDE THE MATCHING PORTION FOR THE GLO AND THE CDB GS OR THE REMAINING FUNDS FOR THE C THAT CDGB COULDN'T AFFORD FOR THE PROJECT WE, WE WANTED TO COMPLETE. SO WE DID, WE DID GET SOME PROJECT DRIVEN THINGS DONE WITH THE UTILITY REVENUE, NOT AS MUCH AS WE WANTED TO SEE, BUT IT, IT MOSTLY GOT USED AS CONTINGENCY WHEN WE LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. UM, AND THAT'S GONNA KIND OF PLAY INTO SOME OF THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT WE HAVE LATER ON, UH, THAT WE'LL DISCUSS. UM, SO I'LL JUST, NO QUESTIONS ON THAT. I'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. WE'LL START OUT WITH THE 5, 5 8 PUBLIC WORKS. THAT IS ON PAGE 38. THANK YOU. UM, ONE OF THE MOST, UH, THE VERY TOP SALARIES 1 0 5, THERE'S GONNA BE AN INCREASE THERE THAT HAS TO DO WITH DECISION PACKAGES. SO WE'LL WAIT, WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS AND THEN WE WILL JUMP INTO THOSE DECISION PACKAGES. UM, AND AGAIN, [03:55:01] JUST, JUST AS YOU'VE SEEN IN OTHER BUDGETS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD INCREASES, YOU KNOW, TO FICA HEALTH INSURANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN ENTERED IN THERE FOR US ALREADY. UM, THE NEXT NOTABLE INCREASE IS ON THE QUIET ZONE. AND THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES AND WE HAVE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, WHICH I BELIEVE WE HAD TO SPEND $9,700 THIS YEAR ON SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, REPLACING THE BALLARDS AND SOME OF THE SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS, AND, AND JUST CREATING THIS LINE ITEM AND FUNDING, IT WOULD JUST BE A WAY THAT WE ALWAYS ENSURE WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THE QUIET ZONE. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY SEVERAL YEARS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO END UP SPENDING WHAT WE SPENT THE INITIAL YEAR WHEN WE LOST THE QUIET ZONE, WE HAD TO PUT IN ALL THE, YOU KNOW, PUT IN ALL THAT FUNDING TO ACTUALLY INSTALL THE STRIPING AND ALL. WELL, THOSE THINGS, ALL THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE EVERY SEVERAL YEARS. UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST GOING IN AND WE REPLACE THINGS AS THEY GO, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU GOTTA REDO ALL THE STRIPING, YOU GOTTA REDO ALL THE SIGNAGE. AND SO THAT'S WHY IN YEARS AND YEARS FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DECISION PACKAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT, HOW THAT REFLECTS AND YEARS, YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. UM, FELIX CAN REAL QUICK. YES. QUIET ZONE WHEN PEOPLE HIT THOSE. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ACCIDENTS IN THE LAST COUPLE IN THE LAST YEAR, I THINK, AT THE RAILROAD CROSSING. ARE WE CLAIMING THAT ON? ARE WE GETTING AN INSURANCE CLAIM TO THAT? ARE THEY PAYING FOR THAT? WE HAVE NOT BECAUSE THE INSTANCES WHERE I, WE'VE NOTICED THEY'VE BEEN HIT, THERE WERE NO ACCIDENTS REPORTED AT THE, AT THAT TIME. OKAY. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE SOMEONE JUST HIT IT AND DROVE OFF. IT'S TYPICALLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO. THEY'RE GONNA HIT IT AND DRIVE OFF UNLESS THEIR CAR WON'T PHYSICALLY DRIVE OFF. UM, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD WHERE THOSE TWO THINGS HAVE COINCIDED. OKAY. OKAY. UH, NEXT, UH, NOTICEABLE CHANGE IS GONNA BE THE FUEL EXPENSE. UM, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY WE'VE, WE'VE JUST GONE OVER ON THIS LINE ITEM IN THAT, IN THAT DEPARTMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS DUMP TRUCKS, GRADE ALLS, ALSO ALL THE VEHICLES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED, YOU KNOW, JUST GENERAL VEHICLES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED. HISTORICALLY IT'S GONE OVER. SO WE'RE JUST PUTTING IN THE INCREASE AS WE SEE IT, UM, TO REFLECT OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. OKAY. THE NEXT, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ANYTHING IN TOTAL SUPPLIES? OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON TO, UH, NEXT PAGE, WHICH THIS IS GONNA BE A, OUR REPAIRED MAINTENANCES MAINTENANCE ACCOUNTS. UM, THE FIRST NOTABLE CHANGE IS GONNA BE THE, UH, R AND M EQUIPMENT THAT IS ON DECISION PACKAGES. UM, PRIMARY, YES. ALL OF IT IS DECISION PACKAGES. SO WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THAT ONE WHEN WE GET, WHEN WE GET TO THE DECISION PACKAGES, UM, R AND M INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS INCREASE IS, IS A DECISION PACKAGE. BUT I WILL TOUCH ON IT A LITTLE BIT. AND THIS IS, UM, THESE ARE SOME INCREASES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO THE R AND M INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, THIS, THIS LINE ITEM IS USED TO PURCHASE ALL THE MATERIALS FOR ANY TYPE OF ROLL WORK, YOU KNOW, GRAVEL, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND ALSO PAYING FOR OTHER ITEMS NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT SUPPLIES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, AND WHAT WE'VE NOTICED IS THAT THERE HAS, THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN A PROJECT THIS YEAR THAT WE'VE HAD TO, WE WERE GONNA REPAVE AN ALLEYWAY, UM, THAT WE HAD TO PUT OFF BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD ALL THE GRAVEL. SO WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT TO RESET OF THE BUDGET YEAR TO BE ABLE TO, TO COMPLETE THAT ROAD PROJECT. WHAT ALLEYWAY? UH, THE ONE BEHIND, UH, GOSH, LEMME SEE. UH, IT'S, IT'S OFF OF WILKINS AND IT RUNS BEHIND IN BETWEEN THE OKAY. YEAH. RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. WHERE IT'S, UH, BEHIND THE, SO YOU, YOU TURN OFF OF IT OFF EAST WILKINS RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO LOOP 2 74 AND IT RUNS BEHIND WHAT WOULD BE SHENANGO AND THE FEEDER ROW 2 88 RUNS BEHIND, UH, PETER'S CUT RATE, THE TRANSMISSION SHOP AND ALL THOSE, THAT THING RIGHT THERE. YES. AND THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, RE WE HAD RESIDENTS CALL IT INTO US EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE WENT AND TOOK A, TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CALCULATED ALL THE GRAVEL WE WOULD USE TO TEAR IT ALL OUT AND REPAVE IT. AND WE JUST, WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT OUTTA THIS BUDGET. IT'S A MESS. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR INCREASES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE COST TO DO, I MEAN, NOW JUST GOING AROUND AND DOING OUR TYPICAL PATCHING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YES, THIS SUFFICES, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA START MAKING SOME MAJOR REPAIRS LIKE THAT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THIS TYPE OF REPAIR IN HOUSE, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE MATERIALS. AND THAT WAS THE REASON BEHIND THE INCREASE. AND I JUST SENT IN LIKE YESTERDAY, I THINK IT WAS, UH, SHENANGO. WHERE WAS THAT? SHENANGO AND SHENANGO AND MILLER. MILLER, YES. INTERSECTION MAN. YEAH, THERE'S LIKE PRETTY BAD PAVEMENTS PUSHED UP. THERE'S LIKE 12 POTHOLES THERE. THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION NEEDS TO BE REDONE. OKAY. AND, UH, THE NEXT NOTABLE INCREASE, WELL, TWO OF THE NEXT, UH, NOTABLE INCREASE IS SIDEWALKS AND SOLAR LIGHTS HERE. WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON THOSE A LITTLE BIT, JUST EXPLAINING THAT THEY ARE UNFUNDED AFTER WE'VE EXPENDED ALL THE ARPA FUNDS AT THIS POINT ARE OUR WILL ONCE WE COMPLETE THE LAST ROUND OF SOLAR LIGHTS. UM, AND SO JUST, YOU KNOW, WE CREATED DECISION PACKAGES TO THOSE TO SEE IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, DESIRE TO CONTINUE ON WITH THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS. [04:00:01] UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE SECTION? ARE WE GONNA TALK ABOUT DECISION PACKAGES LATER? YOU WANT? YEAH. SO I'LL GO THROUGH EACH, UM, EACH DEPARTMENT AND THEN WE WILL DISCUSS DECISION PACKAGES PER DEPARTMENT AFTER WE RUN THROUGH ALL THE LINE ITEMS. WELL, I JUST WANNA ASK YOU ABOUT ROAD PAIN. YOU'VE GOT ESTIMATED IN YOUR FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET 20,000, YOU'RE ESTIMATING 20,000. YOU HAVE NOTHING ACTUAL, IS THAT YEAH, SO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE EXPENDED. WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING, UH, THE, THE ROUND OF THAT. CURRENTLY, WE'RE ACTUALLY SELECTING OUR STREETS AND MAPPING AMOUNT TO GET PRICING ON IT. UM, AND THE PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS, THIS, UH, LINE ITEM HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED YET IS BECAUSE WITH THE 2018 STREET BOND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE AGREED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, COMPLETE THE ROAD PAINTING, WHICH I DESCRIBED EARLIER THAT CAME OUTTA THE $50,000 WORTH OF ROAD PAINTING. AND SO NOW WHAT THIS IS GONNA ALLOT US IS OUR NORMAL TWO MILES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OUR APPROXIMATELY TWO MILES IS WHAT, IS WHAT THAT AMOUNT GETS US. WHO DOES THAT? YOU NO, WE, WE HAVE TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING TO DO THAT IN HOUSE AND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE STAFF EITHER. AND YOU THINK YOU'RE STILL GONNA DO IT BETWEEN NOW AND OCT? YES. YES, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY INITIATED THAT PROCESS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE PLANNING PROCESS OF IT. AND, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN WE GET A PRICE, WHEN WE GET PRICING FROM THE CONTRACTORS AND WE SELECT ONE, IT'S TYPICALLY WITHIN A COUPLE WEEKS THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ALREADY OUT THERE PAINTING, SO, OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. UH, THREE 20, THEY'RE BUILDING BUDGET OF 55,000. SPENT 2,400. YOU'RE GOING BACK TO 55,000. SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY, I'M NOT SURE WHY IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN HERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE HAD TO, UH, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS WE HAD BECAUSE ALL THE, WE HAD THE SECURITY ISSUE THERE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. WELL, WE SPENT UPWARDS OF $80,000 OUT THERE FOR ALL THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS WE HAD TO DO, WHETHER IT WAS FENCING, YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL SECURITY, CYBERSECURITY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, AND SO THAT'S THIS, MOST OF THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TRANSFER DIRECTLY OVER TO THAT, EXPENDED THAT WAY. WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED TO COST OR THE, THE, THE FUNDING THAT'S IN THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED TO FUND, UH, PART OF IT, TO FUND THE REST OF THE, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT, PLANT SECURITY UPGRADES. BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BUILDING FUND IN THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AS WELL, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY EXPENDED. AND, UH, WELL BEFORE WE GOT TO THE END OF ALL THE SECURITY ISSUES WE HAD TO DEAL WITH, SO WE HAD TO PULL OUR BUILDING FUNDING FROM ALL OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BASICALLY. 'CAUSE ALL OUR, ALL FOUR OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE, UH, THE R AND M BUILDING FUND. OKAY. BUT, HEY, TRAVIS, I WAS CALLING , I'M JUST CONFUSED BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE IN FISCAL YEAR 25 SAYING ANOTHER 55,000. SO SHOULDN'T, I MEAN, YOU SAID A MINUTE AGO THAT YOU, YOU PULLED DOWN ONE OF YOUR BUDGET LINES BECAUSE YOU JUST, THE FUEL LINE, YOU SAID, HEY, WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE IT RIGHT. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING. WELL, IT SHOULD BE EQUAL THE O OTHER WAY. RIGHT? SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SPEND IT, AND I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA GET, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S THE, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT SHOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE WATER AND SEWER SIDE, RIGHT? NOT THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND. UH, YEAH, IT'S CORRECT. CORRECT. SO I WOULDN'T SUSPECT THAT THIS 55,000 SHOULD STAY IN HERE IF IT'S RELATED TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN. IT SHOULD BE GOING AGAINST THE WATER AND SEWER FUND. YES. YES. IT JUST HAS, IT WAS ONE OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WE SUBMITTED, AND I GUESS IT'S JUST NOT REFLECTED YET, BUT THE BUDGET AMENDMENT WAS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24. YOU'RE PUTTING IT BACK IN, IN FISCAL YEAR 25, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. IS THAT COME OUT? YES. I UNDERSTAND. BUT WE HAVE TO, WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, SO THE REASON THIS R AND M BUILDING FUND, A LOT OF IT'S, IT, AND I DON'T BELIEVE A LOT OF IT WAS EXPENDED LAST YEAR. AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN CURRENTLY. WE'RE IN A RENTAL BUILDING, EVERYTHING'S TAKEN CARE OF. THIS IS HISTORICALLY WHAT HAS BEEN IN THAT, IN THAT BUDGET TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING SERVICE CENTER BEFORE IT WAS UNINHABITED AS IT IS NOW. UM, AND SO I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT FUNDING IN THERE FOR THAT REASON. BUT, UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, ALSO THAT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN IS ONLY A ONE TIME. WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND $80,000 OUT THERE EVERY YEAR. IT WAS JUST TO GET US UP TO SPEED. AND NOW IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, GENERAL MAINTENANCE THERE, WHETHER IT'S PART OF THE FENCING OR YOU GOTTA REPLACE A CAMERA ONE YEAR, ET CETERA. I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU COULD DROP IT TO 5,000 IN THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, THAT STILL GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE ESTIMATING THIS YEAR. AND THEN YOU HAVE $50,000 IF YOU WANNA DO SIDEWALKS, YOU CAN USE THAT 50,000 FOR SIDEWALKS IS ALL I'M SAYING. CORRECT. OKAY. I'LL, I WILL DEFINITELY, I WILL LOOK AT A LITTLE, A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS THERE FOR THAT LINE ITEM. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. WHERE, WHERE'S ALL, WHERE, WHERE ARE YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT COSTS SHOWING UP IN THIS STUFF? IS THAT UNDER? YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA BE ON A, IT'S GONNA BE COMING OUT OF 5 71 DIFFERENT, AND WE'LL GET, WE'LL, WE WILL GET TO IT IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT NOW. CAN WHAT? CUTTING. NO, WHAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS [04:05:01] CHEMICAL SUPPLIES. I THOUGHT, YEAH. THOUSAND DOLLARS AIN'T GONNA TOUCH IT. OH YEAH, NO, NO, NO. THAT'S FOR, UM, LIKE A HERBICIDE SPRAYING RIGHT OF WAYS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT THAT CHEMICAL SUPPLY IS FOR. OKAY. YOU WANNA GO INTO SERVICES? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THE NEXT NOTABLE CHANGES FOR US ON THIS IS, UM, THE SPECIAL EVENTS AND PROJECTS. AND WE JUST INCREASED THAT BY, UH, $500 JUST BECAUSE OF, UH, ANGLETON UNIVERSITY AS WE ROLL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE OUR ANNUAL RICE BELT MEETINGS, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT IS TYPICALLY ALLOTTED FOR. BUT SINCE WE'VE ADDED, YOU KNOW, UH, ANGLETON UNIVERSITY, WE'VE KIND OF NOTICED IT OFFSETS THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO WE WANTED TO, UH, JUST ADD $500 TO COVER THE COST OF BOTH. HOW'S ANGLETON UNIVERSITY COSTING YOU MONEY? UH, PURCHASING FOOD FOR THE EVENING. OKAY. YES. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S NOT AN EXPENSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, FEED ALL THE STUDENTS AND STAFF THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON SERVICES? UH, YOU'RE ESTIMATING THIS YEAR TO BE AT 245,000, SO YOU'RE GONNA BE OVER YOUR BUDGET BY ABOUT $10,000 ON SERVICES. UM, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING BACK DOWN IN 25. IS THERE ONE TIME COST THAT YOU'RE, THAT WAS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? I SEE THE UTILITIES IS UP FROM ONE 60 TO 1 69 ESTIMATED, AND YOU'RE GOING BACK DOWN TO ONE 60. SO MOSTLY IT'S IN THE UTILITIES LINE. YES. AND THAT IS, UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT A NUMBER THAT I CALCULATE. THAT'S, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHO CALCULATES THAT. I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S IN PHIL'S DEPARTMENT, BUT, UM, THAT IS FOR ALL THE, YOU KNOW, JUST PAYING THE LIGHT BILL FOR ALL THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES WE HAVE, WHICH I BELIEVE THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY ALL THE STREET LIGHTS SINCE IT'S IN THE STREET DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE ALL THAT IS JUST THE COST OF HAVING OUR STREETLIGHTS THROUGH, UM, THROUGH TEXAS, NEW MEXICO. SO THAT DOES FLUCTUATE. THERE'S DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, UM, DIFFERENT FACTORS WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY. AND THE 160,000 WAS JUST A CONTINUATION OF IT BASED. I KNOW THAT ONE, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS PAST YEAR WE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS $194,000 AND THEN THIS YEAR WE'RE BACK DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, 1 68 ON WHAT WOULD BE THE ESTIMATED. RIGHT. BUT I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE SAID, PHIL, THAT THESE ACTUALS WERE THROUGH MAY. SO THAT'S MORE THAN SIX MONTHS OF ACTUALS, AND WE'RE EXPECTING IT TO BE END OF THE YEAR. THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT. AND SO IT'S WILD TO ME THAT IN 23, YOU, YOU HAD ALMOST $200,000 IN UTILITIES AND THEN YOU WOULD'VE BUDGETED 160 FOR TWO FOUR. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL, UM, I'LL FOLLOW BACK UP WITH PHIL AND GET, WE WILL GET SOME BETTER NUMBERS ON THIS AND KINDA SEE WHERE, WHERE WE'RE, WE'LL GET CLOSER TO WHERE WE'RE TRENDING AT AS OF NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS ON SERVICES? OKAY. AND IN THE NEXT SECTION IN, IN A, A MISCELLANEOUS SECTION, UM, THERE'S ONLY, UH, ONE THING WE, THAT I KNOW OF THAT I, UH, WE CAN HIT ON REALLY IS THE, UH, THAT CONTINGENCY FIVE 20. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO, TO ADD IN HERE AS A, AS WE SAW THE EFFECTS OF THE UTILITY REVENUE ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, AND HOW WE HAD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL THESE EMERGENCIES THAT CAME IN, WE HAD TO TAKE IT OUTTA THERE BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER CONTINGENCY. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN ADDING CONTINGENCY TO EACH ONE OF THESE DEPARTMENTS. YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS STREETS DEPARTMENT ADDING THE CONTINGENCY OF $50,000. AND FOR INSTANCE, THAT WOULD'VE ALLOWED US TO, UH, TO PAVE THAT ALLEY THIS YEAR. RIGHT? IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WOULD'VE HAD THAT CONTINGENCY FUND, WE COULD HAVE SAID, HEY, WE'VE EXPENDED OUR R AND M INFRASTRUCTURE FUND, YOU KNOW, CAN WE, CAN WE NOW UTILIZE THIS TO COMPLETE THE ROADWAY THAT, THAT WE NEED TO THIS YEAR? SO, BUT WAS IT IN YOUR BUDGET LAST YEAR? THIS YEAR? THE CONTINGENCY? NO, NO. THE CONTINGENCY WAS NOT, IT SHOWS THAT IS, BUT THAT WAS A DECISION LAST YEAR. BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE HIM STILL IN HERE. EXACTLY. YES. SO DECISION PACKAGES FROM LAST YEAR, SO LIKE THE PINEY WAY, STREET BOMB, STREET BOMBS, STREET BUMPS, THE UH, SIGNS FOR THE COUNTY ARCOLA PROJECT, ALL THAT COULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T FORECASTED IN THE BUDGET AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAD A REQUIREMENT TO PAY FOR IT. WE COULD HAVE PAID FOR IT OUT OF A CONTINGENCY FUND. I'M ALL FOR YOU HAVING A CONTINGENCY, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START SMALLER THAN 50,000. OKAY. SUGGESTIONS ON AMOUNT , I WOULD PROBABLY GO HALF THAT 25,000 TO START. I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU 50,000. WE DON'T HAVE 50,000 THOUGH. WE DON'T, SO, AND YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT REALLY NEEDS A CONTINGENCY. SO, I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE JUST HAVE TO START SMALL FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET THERE. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. YES, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE EXPENDITURES TO COME UP THROUGH THE YEAR AND YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT, UM, I DO THINK YOUR BUDGET IS [04:10:01] PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT TOTALS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU'RE RAISING YOURSELF UP ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OFF YOUR ESTIMATED FINISH. I MEAN, THERE'S, AND THAT'S WITHOUT THE DECISION PACKAGES. SO, I MEAN, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THE BUDGET CURRENTLY, BUT, UM, I, I THINK STARTING 25,000 WOULD BE BETTER THAN GOING RIGHT AT 50. OKAY. LEMME JUST PLAN AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS. I WANNA REALLY TALK ABOUT YOUR, I MEAN, IF IT'S NOT IN HERE, TELL ME. BUT THE, I BELIEVE YOUR WATERLINE REPLACEMENTS AREN'T IN THIS ONE, RIGHT? THEY'RE IN A, THEY'RE, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN WATER SEWER, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. OKAY. SO I'LL SAVE THAT FOR LATER. OKAY. TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT WE'RE, WE'RE LEAVING CONTINGENCY IN HERE. DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO PUT THE CONTINGENCY ON THE WATER AND SEWER LINE? THE PLA THE PLAN WOULD BE TO, YOU SAID WE HAVE ISSUES HERE THAT POP UP THAT WE'RE NOT BUDGETED FOR. OKAY. LIKE THE ARCO SIGNS OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE POTHOLE AT SHENANGO AND MILLER OR SILVER SADDLE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR ROAD REPAIRS AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE TO THE, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THOSE. OKAY. AND THE WAY WE'VE LAID IT OUT IS WE, WE'VE DONE IT AS CONTINGENCY IN ALL, ALL THESE SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT AS A DECISION PACKAGE THROUGHOUT EACH OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. WHAT IS SIDE SIX 13 SIDEWALKS. HOW'S THAT DIFFERENT FROM THREE 18 SIDEWALKS? THIS ONE, I, I AM NOT SURE ON THIS ONE. PHIL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT ACCOUNT THAT IS NOW? I KNOW THE, UH, I KNOW THE ONE BELOW IT. THAT WAS FOR THAT, UM, UM, THE CEDAR PROJECT THAT WAS JUST PASSED THROUGH ACCOUNT. YEAH. UM, BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT ONE I AM NOT SURE ON I'VE, I'VE YET TO USE IT OR EX EXPEND ANY FUNDS FROM IT. OH, YOU HAVE, YOU'VE EXPENDED $26,000 FROM IT . THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. I, I DON'T, OR NO, 1700 FROM IT EXPECTING TO BE 26,000. YEAH. I DON'T THAT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT WASN'T US BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN UTILIZING ARPA FUNDS FOR ALL OUR SIDEWALK INSTALLATIONS AND THINGS. STILL HAVE ABOUT $50,000. HECTOR, CONGRATULATIONS. YEP. HEY, THANKS. WELL, THERE, THERE'S YOUR, UH, CONTINGENCY, RIGHT? . WELL, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I THOUGHT WE HAD, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER FROM YEAR TO YEAR, I GUESS FOR THE LAST BUDGET SESSION, WE, WE KEPT SIDEWALKS IN THERE. UM, WE DID, WE DID BECAUSE WE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS 'CAUSE I WAS UNDER THE, UM, BUT I THOUGHT WE ATE THAT UP. DIDN'T WE EAT THAT UP WHEN WE HAD THE WATER LINE REPAIRS? I, I ACTUALLY RECALL SOMETHING. WHAT I RECALL IS THAT YES, THE COUNCIL WANTS TO KEEP SIDEWALKS IN, BUT WE WANTED TO WAIT TILL THIS YEAR TO MAKE THAT DECISION BEING THAT WE STILL HAD ARPA FUNDS TO EXPEND. THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBERED. OKAY. WHAT I RECALL, YOU LEFT Y'ALL SOME MONEY BECAUSE, UM, WELL, I DON'T, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WERE KIND OF BEING PINCHED BY THE A DA, UM, AND IF WE CONTINUED TO SHOW AT LEAST THE LINE ITEM BUDGET WHERE WE CONTINUED TO HAVE SOME MONEY IN THE BUDGET THAT WE WERE, AND WE WERE LESS LIKELY TO GET, I GUESS, IN TROUBLE OR WHATEVER, WE RAMIFICATIONS FOR NOT ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES. AND SO IF WE LEASE LIFT LEFT SOME LINE ITEM AND SOME FUNDS IN THE BUDGET TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY, I'M THINKING LIKE RAMPS AND OR BROKEN SIDEWALKS TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, FORGET EXPANDING SIDEWALKS IF WE JUST MAINTAINING THE ONES THAT WE HAVE. I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO EXPAND EVENTUALLY, BUT AT LEAST, UM, ANYWAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I THOUGHT WE, SO I, I'M WITH JOHN. I THOUGHT WE HAD GIVEN YOU SOME MONEY AND OVERLAYS IS 300,000. NOW. I, I THOUGHT WE WERE BUDGETING 200,000, BUT WE WENT UP TO 300,000 FOR ONE YEAR BECAUSE WE WERE GONNA DO MORE AT THAT TIME. BUT THEN COUNTY CAME BACK AND SAID WE CAN ONLY DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT. SO DID WE LEAVE THE BUDGET AT 300 AND IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING US CURRENTLY? CORRECT, YES. PRICES OF ALL OF THEIR E EVERY, EVERY LITTLE FACTOR OF THEIR PROJECT HAS IN PRICES HAVE INCREASED. THE RENTAL OF THE MACHINERY, THE PRICE OF THE ASPHALT, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS HAVE INCREASED. THEY INCREASE EVERY YEAR. WE'VE SEEN IT'S A, IT'S A TREND. OKAY. BUT LAST YEAR WAS TWO 15. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE, SORRY, FISCAL YEAR 23 WAS TWO 15. YES. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE EXPENDED LAST YEAR. YES. AND WE HAVEN'T EXPENDED ANYTHING YET BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T CORRECT. CORRECT. TYPICALLY IT'S SPLIT BETWEEN OUR PHYSICAL YEARS WITH THE TREND WE'VE SEEN, IT'S FROM SEPTEMBER TO TO NOVEMBER WHEN THEY DO IT. SO WE'RE TYPICALLY HAVING IN INVOICES THAT WE'RE EXPENDING ON THE NEXT PHYSICAL YEAR. BUT THE TWO 16 FROM FISCAL YEAR 23 WAS BASED OFF OF TWO MILES, RIGHT. OF REPAVING. CORRECT. YES. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE REPAVING A FULL TWO MILES NOW. RIGHT. THEY'RE [04:15:01] ONLY DOING CONTIGUOUS. AND SO YES, WE'RE NOT EXACTLY TWO MILES, BUT I THINK WE'RE PICKING UP A LITTLE BIT MORE COST FROM, UM, WALKER AROUND THE SEA LIMITS LINE. YES. YES, WE ARE. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE IN 25. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THAT 300,000 AS WELL FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. YES. I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST BASED ON EXPECTATIONS. RIGHT. HOW MUCH ARE WE LOOKING TO GET DONE? YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE IF MAYBE YOU COULD REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY AND CONFIRM FOR US SO WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THIS IS, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. BECAUSE THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 50,000 MIGHT BE YOUR CONTINGENCY, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN FUND. OKAY. I WILL GET, I WILL GET THEIR INFORMATION. JUST SAY THEY WANT TO TWO 50. THAT'S STILL A BETTER THAN 300,000. WELL, I'M GONNA CAMPAIGN THAT YOU GO BACK TO YOUR 50,000 ON CONTINGENCY JUST BECAUSE MURPHY SHOWS UP EVERY OTHER DAY. AND, AND THE DIFFERENCE IN $25,000 OVER THE ENTIRE CITY BUDGET. I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, IT'S POCKET CHANGE. OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO, YOU, AND, AND, AND IN LIGHT OF THAT, I DON'T MEAN TO START A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION, BUT I'M DRIVING AROUND TOWN AND I'M SEEING LOTS OF DEAD LIMBS LAYING OVER THE CITY, IN THE CITY RIGHT. OF WAY UP IN THE TREES AND STUFF. NOW THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA FALL ON PUBLIC WORKS. CORRECT? I'M DRIVING AROUND TOWN, I'M SEEING DEAD TREES AND STUFF THAT HAVE JUST MANIFESTED THEMSELVES. NOW THERE'S JUST, THERE'S NO LINE ITEM TO, FOR THAT KIND OF STUFF. EXACTLY. DOWN ON 5 35 AND 5 38. THERE'S ZEROS THERE. UH, THESE OTHER, THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE HAD BUILDING LEASE FEES AND UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE, WE, WE FINANCE HASN'T CAUGHT UP WITH THAT YET. OKAY. BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET SOMETHING IN THOSE TWO LINES. YES, SIR. YES. I STILL CAMPAIGN FOR 25,000 BECAUSE I DO THINK 25,000 IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN OUR BUDGET DEPENDING ON WHAT WE CAN FUND AND WHAT WHAT DEPARTMENT. 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING FOR CONTINGENCY. AND I GET IT. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. A LOT OF THINGS COME UP, BUT WE ALSO HAVE BUDGETS THAT ARE CONTINUALLY BELOW WHAT THEY'RE ESTIMATING A LOT OF TIMES. YES. SO I THINK THEY'VE GOT THE WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE. I JUST NEED TO PROVE IT OUT. UM, I, I AGREE WITH YOU THOUGH, COUNCILMAN BOOTH, THAT, I MEAN, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE AT 50,000. I JUST THINK EATING IT ALL IN ONE BITE WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE ASKING FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THROUGH HERE. 25 MAKES A DIFFERENCE. IT CAN FUND SOMETHING ELSE SOMEWHERE. I THINK WE'LL GET THERE THOUGH. OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN MISCELLANEOUS OR 5, 5 8 IN GENERAL. OKAY. YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT DECISION PACKAGES? YES. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE DECISION PACKAGES NOW. OKAY. IN 5, 5 8. OKAY, SO I'M SORRY I WASN'T INCLUDING THE BOOK. OKAY. SO THE GUESS I'LL START OFF WITH ZERO. THAT ONE DIDN'T GET RANKED PROPERLY. UM, BUT THIS IS THAT NEW EMPLOYEE, THAT OFFICE MANAGER POSITION. IT'S NOT THE CORRECT TITLE, UH, OR WOULDN'T BE THE CORRECT TITLE. BUT THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, DUE DUE TO EXPANSION, US GETTING GOING TO THE ANNEX AND ALSO US EXPANDING THE, YOU KNOW, KING MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS CENTER. UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANTED TO TOUCH ON GETTING ANOTHER TYPE OF OFFICE PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR, OUR OFFICE COORDINATOR, BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS A NEED FOR, UH, MORE NEED FOR THOSE TYPES OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES IN OUR DEPARTMENT. UM, BUT ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS PERSON BE SO BE A TYPE OF, UH, GIS TECH FOR US, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN-HOUSE FOR US. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT PERSONNEL REQUEST IS AT THE VERY TOP. I, IT WASN'T RANKED CORRECTLY. IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE TOP AS A ZERO. I WOULD PUT THAT DOWN IN PROBABLY SEVEN SEVEN-ISH AREA. UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? OKAY. HI. YES. WHAT IS NUMBER ONE? WHAT IS RANKED NUMBER ONE RANKING NOT RANKED UP THERE? NUMBER ONE, WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER ONE? SO THAT NUMBER ONE WOULD BE THE R AND M INFRASTRUCTURE, THE INCREASE, WHICH IS THE 30,000. WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT DO YOU NEED THE MOST? WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE ITEM? THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. THE R AND M INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT WOULD AFFORD US TO DO MORE ROAD REPAIRS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE [04:20:01] ONLY PERSON WHO'S CALLED IN ABOUT A BAD ALLEY. THAT'S JUST THE WORST ALLEY THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE. BUT THERE'S OTHER ONES OUT THERE AS WELL. AND SO, SO WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS ITEM NUMBER ONE? THAT IS INCREASING OUR, OUR THREE 15 ACCOUNT. OUR REPAIRED MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOUNT BY 30,000. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. OKAY. AND SO WITH THAT, AGAIN, WE COULD HAVE COMPLETED THAT ALLEY THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE REQUEST. THE SECOND NUMBER, THE SECOND REQUEST FOR US IS, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY AT A, AT A COUNCIL MEETING. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO MOVING FORWARD WHAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF COME UP WITH A HYBRID IDEA HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING THE EXISTING GREAT ALL BUT PUTTING, YOU KNOW, $50,000 INTO OVERHAULING BOTH OF THE GREAT ALLS, YOU KNOW, REPLACING EVERYTHING. JUST, IT'S BEEN A MAINTENANCE NIGHTMARE FOR US. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE GREAT ALL IS STILL A GREAT MACHINE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO KEEP UP UPKEEP, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO EXPEND THIS YEAR IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO USE THE GRADE ALL AT THE LEVEL IT'S EXPECTED TO BE USED AT. UM, AND ALSO THAT'S WHY THERE'S, THERE'S TWO, TWO RANKED AT NUMBER TWO BECAUSE THE PURCHASE OF THE NEW EXCAVATOR THAT WAS PRESENTED ALONG WITH THE, UH, THE GRADE ALLS REPLACEMENT THAT WAS PRESENTED RECENTLY, THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THERE TO PER THE PURCHASE OF THAT EXCAVATOR. AND SO THAT'S WHY THOSE ARE THE NUMBER TWOS. UM, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I KNOW DRAINAGE HAS, YOU KNOW, BECOME A BIG TOPIC FOR, FOR ANGLETON RECENTLY. AND SO THIS IS GONNA HELP US ATTEMPT TO, UH, TO FULFILL ALL THOSE REQUESTS. UM, THE DISCUSSION BEHIND THIS, IF I RECALL, WAS, WAS LOWERING THE OVERALL COST OF, OF THE NE NECESSARY, OR, OR OF THE GRADE ALLS TO ALLOW FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE EXCAVATOR THAT YOU NEEDED AND, AND THAT AS WELL. YES. YES. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? THE NUMBER TWOS, SO IN THE EXCAVATOR TWO THAT CAN BE LEASED OUT OVER A COUPLE YEARS. CORRECT. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE 186,000. IT CAN BE RIGHT. WHATEVER, 30,000 A YEAR OR SOMETHING TO GET TO THAT NUMBER. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BROKEN DOWN IN THE, IN THE NOTES, I BELIEVE. UM, SAME, SAME THING WITH THE DEBRIS REMOVAL EQUIPMENT. YES. I MEAN, THAT CAN ALL BE FINANCED OUT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. I THINK THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE SHOULD BE HAVING. I THINK LEASE PURCHASE IS THE WAY TO GO. SO FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS YOU COULD PROBABLY GET THREE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT OR, OR FOUR YES. FINANCED OUT OVER, I'M ASSUMING FIVE YEARS, RIGHT PHIL? YEAH. CAN THEY ALL BACK TO US? YEAH. AND THIS IS JUST FOR LIKE THOUGHTS. NO, I WAS GONNA BRING THIS UP TOO. I'M GLAD YOU AND WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT TO DO? AND WE CAN CERTAINLY REFINE, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW WE, HOW WE GET AT IT WHEN THAT GRADE ALL'S BEING OVERHAULED. WHAT'S THE DOWNTIME ON IT? UH, I, I DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. OKAY. BUT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH TWO OF THEM, RIGHT? SO YOU'LL HAVE ONE. YES. THE PLAN IS TO GO THROUGH ONE ONE OF, WE'LL START OFF WITH THE OLDER ONE, JUST BECAUSE THAT ONE'S MORE UNUSABLE TO US RIGHT NOW, JUST BEING THAT IT'S, IT'S HAVING A LOT OF POWER STEERING ISSUES, SO IT'S VERY HARD TO TURN. UM, SO WE'LL ACTUALLY START WITH THAT ONE FIRST. GET THAT ONE REPAIRED AND THEN WORK ON WORK ON THE OTHER GRADE. ALL. IS THAT 50,000 INCLUDE BOTH OR JUST ONE? IT, IT'S, IT'S GONNA INCLUDE BOTH. YES. OKAY. SO 25 EACH. UH, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY SPEND A LOT MORE ON THE GRAY ONE, I'M SURE. YES, THAT'S OUR PRIMARY, THAT'S OUR PRIMARY USER. BUT YOU KNOW, HAVING THE YELLOW, YELLOW ONE, UH, REALLY HELPS US OUT A LOT. YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DURING DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, AT THAT PREVIOUS STORM WE HAD, IT REALLY HELPED OUT A LOT DURING THAT TIME. UH, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE, THE, THE GRAY ONE THAT YOU GUYS PROBABLY PRIMARILY SEE GOING AROUND TOWN, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PRIMARY, UH, GRADE ALL. BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILMAN BOOTH WHO HAD BROUGHT UP UTILIZATION ON, ON ALL THIS STUFF. AND I THINK THAT IT IN THE PAST. AND I THINK THAT WITH, WITH US JUST CONTINUALLY WORKING TO BE PROACTIVE AND REPAIRING THIS EQUIPMENT, I THINK IT'S GONNA LAST US A LONG TIME. EVEN IF WE RUN INTO, YOU KNOW, HYDRAULIC PUMP ISSUES OR LARGER EXPENDITURES, IT'S STILL NOT $600,000. CORRECT. AND THAT'S, AND THAT, THAT GIVES YOU MONEY TO DO OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT WITH EQUIPMENT THAT YOU UTILIZE EVERY DAY. PLUS YOU'LL HAVE SOME NICE TRUCKS TO HAUL YOUR STUFF AROUND, HOPEFULLY. YES. AND UH, THAT'S ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE ALSO CONTINUED IT AT $20,000 EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT. JUST CONTINUED MAINTENANCE. NOW IS IT GONNA BE 20 TH YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. IT JUST DEPENDS WHAT BREAKS, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT. BUT I FIGURED THAT WAS JUST KIND OF A GOOD WAY TO PAD IT FOR YEARS TO COME. WHAT SORT OF A EXCAVATOR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? A MINI EXCAVATOR OR SOMETHING? IT, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE A FULL SIZE EXCAVATOR. UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME AREAS IN TOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE, I MEAN THE EQUIPMENT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO GET IN THERE IN, IN SOME LARGER AREAS. LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UH, BEHIND BASTROP IN THAT AREA BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'D GET OUR MINI EXCAVATOR BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, DURING BAD WEATHER TIMES. IT'S HARD TO GET BACK THERE. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, A ISSUE WITH SEWER LINE BACK THERE. SO GET HAVING A LARGER EXCAVATOR TO GET, GIVE US MORE DEPTH, YOU KNOW, DIGGING DEPTH AND ALL THAT. JUST MORE EFFICIENT ON A LARGER JOB VERSUS A, A MINI EXCAVATOR, [04:25:01] YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT LONGER. WAS THIS THE 3 0 8? CORRECT? YES. SO THIS WAS THE LARGER MACHINE WITH THE RUBBER TRACKS? YES, YES. AND THEY'RE COUPLED TOGETHER. BUT AGAIN, IF IT JUST, YOU KNOW, TURNS INTO A, YOU KNOW, GRADE ALL OVERHAUL AND WE FOCUS ON PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT LATER, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. BUT I JUST HAVE THEM GROUPED TOGETHER. 'CAUSE TO ME THEY GO, THEY'RE PAIRED TOGETHER. SAME THING. WELL THAT WAS, THAT WAS KIND OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WAS REDUCING THE, THE COST OF THE GRADE ALL AND, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN BOOTH MENTIONED ABOUT DUMP TRUCKS AND UTILIZATION AND HOW THE STUFF WASN'T UTILIZED ON A REGULAR BASIS. YES. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT RENTAL AND THEN REDUCING THE GRADE ALL COST TO, TO PURCHASE EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED REGULARLY AND ALLOW FOR THAT, WHICH WAS THAT, THAT 3 0 8 EXCAVATOR. SO I THINK, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH WITH ALL THIS AND, AND GETTING SOMEBODY INVOLVED OVER ALL THIS EQUIPMENT, YOU'VE KIND OF DONE WHAT WE, WHAT WE KIND OF EXPECTED, AT LEAST WHAT I EXPECTED. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. OKAY. UM, LET'S SEE, WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? UM, AGAIN, QUIET ZONE. THAT WAS, THAT WAS ACTUALLY A DECISION PACKAGE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, PUT IN LAST YEAR. UH, JUST PUSHING FORWARD IT AGAIN THIS YEAR JUST BECAUSE IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LINE ITEM THAT WE, WE DON'T FUND CURRENTLY. UM, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE KNOWS THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT MAINTAINING IT. UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE AVERAGING ANYWHERE THIS YEAR WE DID $9,700 WORTH OF REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, SO I, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR REALLY TRACKING IT THIS WAY. UM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT FUTURE YEARS WILL, WILL HOLD FOR US, BUT I DO KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT, WHICH I ESTIMATE IN 26, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN THREE YEARS, UM, THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO STRIFE, REPLACE ALL THE SIGNS, REPLACE ALL THE BALLARDS, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY'VE LOST ALL THE REFLECTIVE IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. UM, SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S IN THERE. AND THE COSTS ARE SPREAD IN THAT MANNER. UM, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER, UH, STREETS AND DRAINAGE FOR, AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED IT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LACKING IN THAT AREA AS FAR AS A, A DIRECT FOREMAN OVER OUR STREETS DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, A PUBLIC WORKS FOREMAN, BUT HE'S OVER A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, NOT JUST STREETS. SO JUST KIND OF TRYING TO NARROW SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS DOWN AND JUST GET HIM A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT WITH AN ACTUAL, ACTUAL HEAD OF THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, BREAK OFF OF THE DEPARTMENT, IF YOU WILL, BRANCH OF OUR STREETS DEPARTMENT, IF YOU WILL. UM, AND THEN AGAIN, SIDEWALKS, A DA ACCOMMODATIONS. THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IN THERE AS WELL, WHICH WAS WHAT WE JUST TOUCHED ON. AGAIN, ON ALL THE SIDEWALKS. THAT'S THAT DECISION PACKAGE. UM, SOLAR LIGHTS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ONE THAT WE HAD TOUCHED ON BEFORE. UM, AND THEN I'LL, AND THE MINI PATCHER IS, IS, UH, SOMETHING WE JUST WANTED TO BRING TO THE TABLE. 'CAUSE I DID WANNA HAVE A QUICK DISCUSSION ON, ON PATCHING IN GENERAL. UM, WE ARE GONNA NEED A NEW PATCH TRUCK. SO ORIGINAL THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO GO THROUGH THE LEASE PROGRAM, WHICH THEY HAVE THEM. GREAT. WE, WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY THROUGH ENTERPRISE FLEET. BUT ANOTHER, ANOTHER THING WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT WAS, THIS IS A GOOD, A GOOD TIME TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WHILE WE'RE PLANNING ON MAKING THAT TRANSITION TO THE NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, IS DO WE WANT TO TRY SOMETHING ELSE? BECAUSE FROM WHAT I'VE NOTICED IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT USING THAT COLD PATCH ASPHALT, IT, IT DOESN'T LAST VERY LONG. UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE NOT ONLY ARE WE PATCHING, BUT IT, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE DOUBLE PATCHING A LOT OF TIMES. YOU KNOW, WE GO TAKE CARE OF A PROBLEM AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE LATER ON. UM, YOU KNOW, THEN WE GO BACK INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, WELL, LET'S EXCAVATE, LET'S DIG SOME OF THIS ROAD OUT, PUT SOME GRAVEL DOWN, YOU KNOW, DO A PROPER PATCH. AND THAT TENDS TO HELP A LITTLE BIT. BUT WHAT WE'VE NOTICED IS THAT THAT COAL PATCH JUST AT TIMES, IT'S JUST NOT THE PROPER MATERIAL. AND SO THAT MINI PATCHER WOULD PROVIDE US WITH BEING ABLE TO LAY, YOU KNOW, TACK DOWN AND DO SOME HOT ASPHALT AND DO BETTER REPAIRS AND IT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT. EITHER WE GO OUT FOR A LEASE, REPLACE OUR, OUR CURRENT DUMP BED THAT WE USE AS A PATCH TRUCK. YOU KNOW, WE JUST GO AROUND AND THROW SOME, THROW SOME COAL PATCH DOWN AND, AND SMOOTH IT OVER. OR DO WE GO WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND TRY TO DO SOME, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA GIVE US SOME BETTER REPAIRS. SO IS THIS, IS THIS LIKE ONE OF THE SMALLER, UH, UH, VERMEER OR LEVOY ASPHALTING MACHINES? YEAH, IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT. YES. YES. I MEAN, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR ABOUT UTILIZATION AND HOW THAT MAY, UH, HELP US WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE WOULD, THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY MAYBE DO. AND IF WE CAN SUPPLEMENT THAT SOMEHOW, I MEAN, I, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR ABOUT IT. OKAY. OKAY. I CAN, WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION WE WANNA HAVE ABOUT, THAT'S BEEN ONE OF OUR, ONE OF OUR BIG PROBLEMS AND ALSO RESIDENT COMPLAINTS. AND IF SOME OF THOSE LITTLE BIT LARGER JOBS, WE CAN PUT THEM TO REST FOR A WHILE, EVEN IF THERE'S A PLAN FOR THAT STRAIGHT, UH, UH, COULD, COULD BE HELPFUL. MAYBE. WELL, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, VALIS AND, UH, RICHMOND YES. RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, YOU KNOW, WE JUST REPAIRED THAT PATCH AND IT'S ALREADY SINKING. MM-HMM. , I MEAN, SO I GUESS WE COULD JUST COME UP WITH A [04:30:01] FORECAST OF HOW MUCH SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE USED AND, AND WITH US DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK, WHAT KIND OF MAYBE POTENTIAL, UH, BENEFIT THAT WOULD HAVE. OKAY. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DEBRIS REMOVAL EQUIPMENT? WHAT ARE THOSE TWO THINGS? SO THEY WERE BOTH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL IN INCLUDED IN ALL THE INFORMATION WITH THEM ARE INCLUDED IN THAT PACKAGE. YOU KNOW, PHOTOS OF IT AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF, QUOTES. UM, BUT, UM, SO THESE ARE THE TWO THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY DISCUSSED. IT'S THAT FRONT END LOADER THAT JUST HAS THE GIANT CLAW ON THE FRONT. MM-HMM. . AND THEN IT'S ALSO A TRUCK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT HAS JUST THE CLAW IN THE BACK AND YOU LO YOU LOAD UP INTO THAT DEBRIS BED, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING AROUND TOWN CURRENTLY, JUST ON A LITTLE BIT OF SMALLER SCALE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER FOCUSES THAT WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO GET TO IS, UM, MORE OF A LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT ARE NON CDL, JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT CDL DRIVERS ARE BECOMING HARDER AND HARDER TO COME BY AS WE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE HIRING IN FOLKS AS MAINTENANCE TECHS AND YOU KNOW, THAT PAY DOESN'T REFLECT SOMEBODY HAVING A CDL. SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A TREND IN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HIRING FOLKS WITH, WE'RE NOT GETTING PEOPLE TO EVEN APPLY THAT HAVE CDLS TO THESE POSITIONS. BUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO LINES? ONE, THERE WAS TWO LINES FOR YEAH, I JUST PUT ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ON EACH ONE AND I JUST, THE ONE'S THE GAVE THEM BOTH THE ONES THE CLAW, CORRECT. THE OTHER ONE IS THE TRUCK. YEAH. THE CHEAPER ONE'S, THE CLAW, THE CHEAPER ONE'S. THE CLAW, THE LARGER, THE LARGER, UH, AMOUNT IS THE, UM, IS THE TRUCK. WOW. THE, UH, THE LOADER. UM, I I'M, I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT, THAT WE COULD, WE COULD USE IT FOR OTHER THINGS. YES. YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA HAVE A, A, A BUCKET ON IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD SWAP OFF QUICK CHANGE. YES. AND UH, YOU COULD USE IT FOR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES. I'M SURE IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. CORRECT. THE TRUCK SEEMS LIKE, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO COUNCILMAN BOOTH'S, UH, GENERAL DEAL IS UTILIZATION AND YEAH. SIT IN THE YARD TILL THE STORM CUT E EXACTLY. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE A HARD ONE TO, BECAUSE IT'S GOTTA BE, IT'S GOTTA DO OTHER THINGS, RIGHT? YES. OR EVEN LIKE THE FRONT END LOADER, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT END LOADER THAT, I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS JUST A FRONT END LOADER. THEY JUST HAVE THAT ATTACHMENT ON THE FRONT OF IT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT BECOMES MORE VERSATILE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BUY THE ATTACHMENTS FOR IT, OF COURSE, WOULDN'T IT? WITH, WITH THAT, WITH THAT THING. AND AS MUCH AS I DO LIKE THE LOADER IDEA, COULDN'T WE ACHIEVE THE SAME THING WITH A, WITH UH, AN ADDITIONAL AUXILIARY HYDRAULIC AND A UH, AND A FRONT END AND A, UH, BACKHOE? CORRECT. CORRECT. OR ALSO, UH, SKID STEERS, I BELIEVE OUR SKID SKID STEER COULD BE RETROFITTED TO HAVE THAT PICKER ON IT. OBVIOUSLY IT WOULDN'T BE AS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER SO IT WOULDN'T BE AS BIG. BUT, YOU KNOW, WELL DOING THOSE THINGS WITH THE SKID STEERS. AWFUL HARD ON TRACKS AND TIRES THOUGH TOO. SOMETHING THAT ARTICULATES CAN GET IN WITHOUT LEAVING A BUNCH OF MARKING ON THE ROAD OR CURBS. YES. UM, I DO LIKE THAT, THAT SMALLER LOADER. I THINK IT'S A NEAT THING. I I THINK THAT 27,000 A YEAR, IF YOU LEASE PURCHASE IT AND IN FIVE YEARS, IT'S YOURS. YEAH. UH, AGREED. BUT AGAIN, UTILIZATION OR WHAT, WHAT ELSE IS IT GONNA DO OTHER THAN PICK UP? I THINK IT WOULD HELP THE, THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT AS WELL. THAT'S WHAT I SUSPECT WITH THAT LOAD, WITH THAT BUCKET ON IT. THAT WAS WHAT I TALKED HECTOR, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT OTHER, WHAT THE BUCKET YOU COULD USE IT FOR? YES, THERE'S A, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ATTACHMENT ON IT. ONE OF 'EM THAT I SAW TOO THAT WAS, UH, PRETTY AWESOME WAS A, IT'S BASICALLY A STUMP GRINDER ON THERE. AND I MEAN, YOU JUST RAISE IT UP AND JUST TEAR THE STUMP UP. IT JUST REDUCES IT TO NOTHING. I MEAN, I, I ACTUALLY SAW A DEMO ON IT, SO IT WAS, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S IT'S THE ROTARY. YEAH, WELL IT'S MORE KIND OF, YES, BUT IT'S MORE ON A, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S ACROSS THE ENTIRE FRONT OF IT AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT JUST BASICALLY SPINS REALLY IS ALL IT IS. IT JUST GRINDS ALL THAT STUFF DOWN TO NOTHING. IT'S A PE CON. YES. YES. CORRECT. ON THE FRONT OF A SKID STEER. IS THAT YOU THE MULCH OR ON THE FRONT OF THAT? ON THE FRONT END LOADER THAT WE WERE DISCUSSED. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT CAN BE VERSATILE. AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S MANY THINGS YOU CAN ATTACH TO IT TO USE ON IT, BUT AGAIN, YOU JUST HAVE TO PURCHASE THE ATTACHMENTS. RIGHT. BUT ONCE YOU GET GATE LOADER FIRST YES. I CAN SEE IT BEING UTILIZED A LOT MORE THOUGH. WE PROBABLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WHATEVER LOADER WAS PURCHASED HAD THE SAME STYLE OF, UH, IF, IF WE DID GO THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT IT FITS THE SKID STEERS AS WELL SO THAT IT CAN BE UTILIZED ACROSS SEVERAL PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. IT SHOULD. YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT WAY THE ATTACHMENTS AREN'T JUST SPECIFIC TO THAT. GET ONE THAT'S GOT THE SAME SETUP. OKAY. SO HECTOR DIRECTION IS TO PUT ALL THOSE INTO PLEASE PURCHASE, UH, PACKAGES. OKAY. AND RESEARCH THAT. OKAY. AND THEN ON THE MINI PATCHER TO COME BACK AND TELL US, GIVE [04:35:01] US A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU COULD USE IT ON, FOR EXAMPLE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND WHEN YOU'RE USING A MINI PATCH, WHERE DO YOU GET THE MATERIAL TO, TO PATCH WITH? SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE IT RIGHT THERE ACROSS, UH, UM, GOSH, SORRY, MINE WENT BLANK. UH, FRONT STREET RIGHT THERE. YOU HAVE THAT ASPHALT FACTORY BACK THERE. YEAH. WE HOT SHOT YOU A LITTLE BIT AT, AT THAT. YES. YES. OR WE COULD JUST PROBABLY JUST DRIVE THE TRUCK OVER THERE AND FILL IT UP AS WELL, BECAUSE THE TRUCK HAS A STORAGE UNIT IN IT. IT'S GOT A BIG HOPPER AND IT ALSO HAS, UM, UH, PROPANE ATTACHMENTS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE WINTER MONTHS. YOU HEAT IT THEN ONCE IT GETS COLD EXACTLY. YOU CAN HEAT IT RIGHT BACK UP. YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON DECISION PACKAGES? 5, 5, 8. OKAY. ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, 5 6 5. THIS IS GOING TO BE WATER. UM, AND IT IS ON PAGE, HOLD ON A SECOND. UH, PAGE 50. SO AGAIN, ONE OF THE, UH, FIRST NOTICEABLE ITEMS IS, IS GONNA BE AT 1 0 5 SALARIES. UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THOSE ARE DECISION PACK OR ALL OF IT IS DECISION PACKAGES. UM, AND AGAIN, THERE'S THE MYRIAD OF CHANGES AS ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HAS SEEN IN THEIR, IN THEIR, UH, PERSONNEL SERVICES SECTION. UM, SO WE'LL GET, WHEN WE GET TO THE, WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE, UH, SALARY CHANGES WHEN WE GET TO THE DECISION PACKAGES. UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON PERSONNEL SERVICES ASIDE FROM THAT? OKAY. UH, LET'S SEE. NEXT NOTICEABLE CHANGE AND, AND SUPPLIES IS GOING TO BE A, JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THIS ONE REAL QUICK, BUT THE WATER PURCHASES INCREASE OF 13%, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S TO WHAT BWA IS INCREASING ANTICIPATED TO INCREASE THIS YEAR. UM, SO WE JUST CAPTURED THAT IN THERE. UM, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON SUPPLIES? I, ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO, UH, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. UH, LEMME SEE. SO THIS, YEAH, SO THIS SECTION DIDN'T HAVE ANY NOTABLE CHANGES EITHER. UM, BUT IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE IN THE WATER? OH, OKAY. DOES IT SEE IT'S GOING DOWN. YES. THAT WAS DUE TO, SO, SO THE SAME THING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, PROFESSIONAL FEES WHEN WE HAVE HDR ENGINEER WATER LINE, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT, WE'LL CAPTURE THAT IN WATER SO WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW. SO YOU JUMPED ON FIRE HYDRANT MAINTENANCE PRETTY HARD OR YOU, ARE YOU CATCHING UP WITH THEM NOW YOU'RE GETTING TO WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO? YES, WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING MUCH BETTER NOW. UM, WE STILL HAVE SOME OUT OF SERVICE HYDRANTS THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE, BUT AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE EXPEND THAT ACCOUNT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE LEFT. ARE YOU ABLE TO REHAB 'EM IN A SHOP OR DO YOU HAVE TO PUT A STICK, A BRAND NEW HYDRANT ON? UH, WE GO AND DIAGNOSE IT. IF IT'S SOMETHING WE, IF WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN AND REPLACE THE GUTS INSIDE OF IT, GET IT BACK UP AND RUNNING, WE DO. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A RULE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA FIX ANYTHING THAT'S 1980 OR, OR OLDER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE NOT GONNA WASTE OUR TIME. WE'RE GONNA REPLACE IT. UM, BUT, BUT YES, ANY, ANYONE THAT CAN BE REPAIRED, WE REPAIR IT. AND AGAIN, ANNUAL ANNUALLY WE ARE DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, HYDRANT TESTING AND IT GIVES US ALL THE DATA WE NEED. THINGS THAT ARE OUTTA SERVICE ISSUES THAT ARE WITH THEM THAT HAVE COME UP. WE DO HALF THE TOWN EVERY OTHER YEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE DO EVERY YEAR. WE DO HALF THE TOWN. AND THEN ALSO THAT AFFORDS FOR OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE PAINT FIRE HYDRANTS AS WELL, BUT ALSO MAKE ALL THE REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS ALL OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT. SO I'D SAY ANOTHER TWO YEARS OF THIS. AND WE, WE WILL BE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE AS FAR AS THAT. WE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT SERVICEABLE OR WELL AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN TO GET A HUNDRED PERCENT SERVICEABLE. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA GO DOWN HERE AND THERE OF COURSE, BUT WE'LL BE A LOT CLOSER TO HAVING EVERYTHING A HUNDRED PERCENT UP AND RUNNING. YEAH. THEY LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, IF YOU HAVE A, A ROUTINE AND YOU ROUTINELY GO THROUGH AND EXERCISE THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, SO THE NEXT TIME YOU WALK UP TO, AND IT'S ALL FROZE UP. MM-HMM. , YOU HAD TURNED IT ON FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS. SO DO YOU HAVE A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO THAT FOR YOUR WATER VALVES IN TOWN? UH, NO, I DO NOT. BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A DECISION PACKAGE WE'LL DISCUSS LATER. YEAH. JUST AS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW. AND AGAIN, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T BEING, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T BEING TOUCHED JUST LIKE THE HYDRANTS WEREN'T BEING, YOU KNOW, TESTED AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. MY EXPERIENCE HERE IN TOWN IS YOUR PREDECESSORS HAVE KNOWN WHERE THESE VALVES ARE AND WHAT THEY DO [04:40:02] HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OTHER CITIES. I'LL NOT SAY WHO THEY ARE, BUT THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON. YES. IT'S A, WHEN THEY FIND ONE, IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK. IT'S JUST, YEP. IT'S A GOOD THING THAT OUR, YOU KNOW, MY PREDECESSORS, UH, WORKED A LOT ON THAT GIS SYSTEM AND THEY'VE CAPTURED A LOT OF THOSE VALVES AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. ALL THOSE TYPES OF, OF THINGS. GS SYSTEM RIGHT HERE. YEAH. WE HAD TO PULL IT OUTTA THERE. . SO, SO BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING WATER AND SEWER, UH, WE'RE NOT TALKING PROPERTY TAX OR SALES TAX FUNDING. SO THIS IS BASED OFF OF THE WATER BILL. AND SO AS WE TALK ABOUT THE BWA INCREASE, IF YOU DECIDE TO APPROVE ANY DECISION PACKAGES OR INCREASES, THAT WILL TAKE EFFECT WHEN WE RAISE THE WATER RATE IN THE, WHAT, SEPTEMBER? I THINK WE KNEW THAT SEPTEMBER. YES. YOU SAID HYDRO MAINTENANCE. YOU'LL BE THERE IN TWO YEARS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FUNDED FOR NEXT YEAR. SO THIS IS, SO WITH THIS HYDRO MAINTENANCE, IT WAS A DECISION PACKAGE TO FUND IT EVERY YEAR. UH, TWO YEARS AGO, TWO BUDGET CYCLES AGO, I THINK. I BELIEVE IT. WHAT IT WAS, IT, SO IT'S FUNDED, SO I JUST, I DON'T PUT ANYTHING ON IT FOR NEXT YEAR. 'CAUSE I ASSUME IT'S, IT'S FUNDED, BUT OH, OKAY, NEVERMIND. I DO, I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN NOW, . YES. LET ME, I'LL FIX THAT. IF IT'S A ZERO, IT'S A ZERO. I GOTCHA. . I KNOW, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. KEEP ON DOING IT. OKAY. YEAH, THERE'S DEFINITELY SUPPOSED TO BE DOING GREAT WORK WITH ZERO MONEY. HE'S MAKING IT HAPPEN. HOW EFFICIENT HE SLIP THAT KNIFE , YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOWER IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO LEAVE IT ZERO. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LOWERING THAT AMOUNT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD REVISIT, UH, NEXT BUDGET YEAR IF Y'ALL WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. WE, I CAN LOOK AT, I CAN LOOK AT THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS COMING PHYSICAL YEAR, WE DEFINITELY NEED IT. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE, UH, DON'T YOU, YOU'RE TALKING WITH CONTRACTORS ABOUT, UH, TOWER WATER TOWER MAINTENANCE AND INSPECTIONS AND YES, THAT'S ANOTHER DECISION PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE IN HERE THAT, THAT WE'LL, THAT WE'LL HIT ON. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A, IS IT ANNUAL INSPECTION? WE DO, WE DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS. IT'S A REQUIRE REQUIREMENT BY TCEQ THAT YOU DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS ON ALL YOUR TANKS. BUT WHAT WE DON'T DO WITH OUR TANKS IS WE DON'T EXACT, WE DON'T HAVE A MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR 'EM. AND YOU KNOW, AS, AS I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF, THOSE TANKS GET VERY EXPENSIVE. AND WE HAD TO REPLACE THE ONE AT SHENANGO, AND THAT WAS ALSO MORE AS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION VERSUS, VERSUS A PLAN SITUATION. AND SO THE GOAL IS TO NOT GET BACK THERE AGAIN. AND SO WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROGRAM THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED WITH A CONTRACTOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SERVICES ARE ABLE TO OFFER AND THEY MAINTAIN ALL YOUR TANKS FOR A FEE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP WITH 'EM, THE MAINTENANCE, THE RECODING OF 'EM, ET CETERA. YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY LIKE CHENANGO, FOR INSTANCE, AND IT'S, THEY, THEY'RE TASKED WITH GOING IN THERE AND, AND MAKING THE REPAIRS AND TAKING CARE OF ALL THE MAINTENANCE ON THESE TANKS FOR, FOR JUST A, YOU KNOW, A FEE PER YEAR. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL DISCUSS. AND WITH UPCOMING, UPCOMING MAINTENANCE OF THE TANKS, UH, WE BELIEVE IT'S A PRETTY LUCRATIVE OPTION. SO, BUT WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AS A DECISION PACKAGE. OKAY. UH, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, SO, UH, MOVING ON TO SERVICES. UH, ONE OF THE NOTABLE ONES THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, IS IS CONTRACT LABOR. AND ACTUALLY THAT IS THE DISCUSSION PACKAGE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. UH, NO, NO, NO. I'M SORRY. THAT'S FOR THE VALVES. I APOLOGIZE. THAT IS FOR THE VALVES. THE INCREASE IN IT, WHICH IS THE DECISION PACKAGE, THE VALVE MAINTENANCE. AND WE WILL DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE GET TO DECISION PACKAGES. UM, ANNUAL SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS MOST LIKELY GONNA BE REMOVED AS A DECISION PACKAGE AND A, AND A INCREASE. UM, IT WAS, I I REQUESTED THIS LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAD INITIATED IWORKS AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO HAVE A AQUA METRIC, WHICH WE HAVE TO PAY THE ANNUAL SERVICE FEE OF THE, OF THE METER SOFTWARE. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CAPTURE ALL THAT IN A LINE ITEM BECAUSE IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T FUNDED OUT OF HERE, IT WAS PAID FOR, I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT WAS BEING PAID FOR BEFORE WHAT ACCOUNT AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND THIS WAS AN ATTEMPT TO, TO CAPTURE IT IN HERE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT IN THERE. WE'VE BEEN CHARGING IT TO THIS. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT ACTUAL FUNDING WAS COMING FROM ORIGINALLY AS FAR, ESPECIALLY FOR THE METERS. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T INITIATE THAT CONTRACT BACK IN. I DIDN'T, I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT PROJECT IN 2020, THE FIRST METER PROJECT. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE ALL THOSE FUNDS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DEDICATED FROM AND WHERE, UH, WHERE IT'S BEING PAID OUT OF. I JUST KNOW IT HAS BEEN, OBVIOUSLY WE STILL HAVE THE SOFTWARE. UM, SO I, I I THINK WE'LL JUST PROBABLY NOT REALLY DISCUSS THAT ONE. UH, WHAT'S YOUR CONTRACT LABOR FOR PROJECTED CONTRACT LABOR? THAT, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE A DECISION PACKAGE THAT WE'LL DISCUSS. IT'S THE VALVE MAINTENANCE. IT'S A VALVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. I THOUGHT YOU SAID PROJECTED FOR THIS YEAR, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING OR? YEAH, [04:45:01] WELL, YES, BECAUSE YOU'VE ONLY SPENT NOT EVEN $1,200 AND YOU'RE ESTIMATING STILL 7,000 FOR THE YEAR. SO WE JUST, UM, WE HAD A LOT OF FILES IN OUR CONEX AND UH, IN ORDER TO DISPOSE OF THOSE FILES, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH MICHELLE AND SHE HAS A CONTRACTOR THAT SHE GETS INTO TO COME FILE THOSE, FILE WHAT NEEDS TO BE FILED CORRECTLY AND PROPERLY. AND ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU HAVE TO, UH, PUT CERTAIN, CERTAIN DATES AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ON 'EM AND DIFFERENT INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO DISPOSE OF THEM. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT COMPANY DOES FOR US TO CLEAR OUT, TO CLEAR OUT ALL THAT, UH, PAPERWORK WE HAVE PILED UP IN THERE. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE GONNA EXPEND MOST OF THOSE FUNDS, SO THAT'S WHY WE JUST SET IT AT 7,000 AS FAR AS PROJECTED. AND THEN AGAIN, CONTINGENCY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, REQUESTED, NOW THIS ONE IS OBVIOUSLY A LOT MORE AS WE CAN ALL SEE, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST BASED ON, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE EMERGENCIES WE HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, WE JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALL FOR THE SAME PURPOSE THAT WE HAVE NO CONTINGENCY WHEN THINGS HAPPEN. WE REALLY HAVE NO WAY TO FUND IT. NOW OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE EXTRA UTILITY REVENUE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE USED THIS YEAR FOR ALL THOSE EMERGENCIES THAT WE'VE HAD. BUT AGAIN, IF UTILITY REVENUE IS, IS INTENDED FOR WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR TO COMPLETE WATER AND SEWER LINE PROJECTS, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN IF WE'RE CONSTANTLY SPENDING IT ON EMERGENCIES. SO, I MEAN, THE EMERGENCIES AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE. THEY'RE GONNA HAPPEN. THE FREQUENCY OF 'EM, OF COURSE CHANGES AND THE AMOUNT OF THEM OF COURSE CHANGES, BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAPPEN. SO IF THE UTILITY REVENUE IS EXPECTED TO BE, AGAIN, SOMETHING TO AFFORD PROJECTS, WATERLINE REPLACEMENT SEWER LINE PROJECTS, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL WE NEED SOME CONTINGENCY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS ON MISCELLANEOUS? OKAY. AND THAT LAST SECTION, THOSE WOULD BE FILL QUESTIONS IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS, HECTOR, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WATER FUND REVENUES THIS YEAR OF, WE'RE GONNA SAY 11, $11.2 MILLION. YOU'RE ESTIMATED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR TO BE 6.7 MILLION IN S IN EXPENDITURES? YES. BUT THEY, WE ALSO HAVE TO COVER THE SEWER FUNDS AS WELL. OKAY. WITH THAT, WITH THAT AMOUNT YOU JUST LISTED OUT. FAIR ENOUGH. THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. ALL THE UTILITY REVENUE FUNDS, ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR PLAN OPERATIONS, SANITARY SEWER, UH, DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO, UH, WATER DEPARTMENT. SO I GOT WATER, I GOT SEWER. WHAT ELSE? IS IT FUNDING? UH, THEY SHOULD ALL BE RIGHT IN A ROW, I BELIEVE NOW. YEAH. PLAN OPERATIONS. YEAH. YOU HAVE FIVE 70 NEXT AND 5 71 AFTER THAT? YES, SIR. OKAY. I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THOSE NUMBERS. I JUST WANNA SAY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTINGENCY, YOU MIGHT HAVE IT, BUT YES, LET ME, I'LL, I'LL LOOK AT IT IN A SECOND. OKAY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON, UH, WATER? 5, 6 5 IN GENERAL? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ANY OF IT? OKAY, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SAME. SO REMEMBER, MOST OF OUR REVENUE COMES AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR. THAT'S RIGHT. AND ENDS KIND OF IN THE SEPTEMBER, OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE BUDGET YEAR CHANGES. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, LAST, THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAD DROUGHTS, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT IN A DROUGHT. MAYBE 1ST OF AUGUST IT'LL CHANGE AND, BUT, SO THAT IMPACTS OUR REVENUE. SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S YARDS LIKE NOW ARE FLOODED AND GOT PLENTY OF WATER. THEY'RE NOT WATERING OR THEY CAN'T FILL THEIR POOL BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT KEEPS GETTING RUINED EVERY OTHER DAY OR SO THAT'S GOING COULD IMPACT OUR, UH, WATER REVENUE. I APOLOGIZE. I RANK, I GUESS THE OTHER I PUT IN AFTERWARDS AND, AND THAT, UM, SO AGAIN, NUMBER ONE FOR US WOULD BE CONTINGENCY. THAT WOULD BE OUR NUMBER ONE WOULD BE CONTINGENCY. UM, AND THEY, THEY CAN CONTINUE ON IN THAT ORDER. UH, THE TANK MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS ANOTHER ONE WE FELT WAS IMPORTANT. UM, AGAIN, THIS PROGRAM, UM, CAN YOU PLEASE CLICK ON THAT ONE? THE, UH, OPEN THAT ONE UP, THE TANK TANK MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. SO I KNOW IT HAS SOME TOTALS IN THERE. UH, YES. RIGHT THERE. THAT SHOULD BE GOOD. APOLOGIZE. UM, THERE GOES, YEAH, SO IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THIS, THIS PROGRAM TO MAINTAIN ALL OF OUR TANKS IS GONNA BE UP $315,000. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE SOME TANKS THAT ARE GONNA BE UP FOR SERVICE HERE VERY SOON, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A, YOU KNOW, A PROJECTED COST OF UPWARDS OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO REHABILITATE BOTH OF THOSE TANKS. [04:50:01] UM, SO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE COST SPREAD OF ALL THIS, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE DETAILS IN HERE JUST BECAUSE, UH, THE CONTRACTOR WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH ON THIS JUST DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FOR US IN TIME FOR TODAY, BUT THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF IT, IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, NEXT TWO YEARS, IT WOULD COST US, YOU KNOW, $315,000 TO BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM. AND AGAIN, IT'S AN, IT'S AN ANNUAL FEE THAT YOU'RE PAYING, BUT, UM, THE, FOR US, WE SEE THE BENEFIT OF THAT AND YOU HAVE $1 MILLION OF IN REPAIRS VERSUS $315,000. AGAIN, I DO NEED TO GET A LOT OF DETAILS BACK TO YOU GUYS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIT THE HIGH POINT OF IT TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU DO WANT US TO EXPAND ON. I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND FROM THEIR SIDE OF THINGS HOW THIS IS A PROFITABLE SITUATION FOR THEM. I WOULD ASSUME IT COMES WITH SOME SORT OF LENGTHY CONTRACT THAT WE WOULD'VE TO SIGN, CORRECT? CORRECT. BUT THAT IS 315 ANNUALLY. UH, NO, IT WAS, IT WAS THE NEXT TWO YEARS OF THIS PROGRAM WILL COST 315,000. AND AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE FIRST YEAR IS 215,000 THE NEXT YEAR SLOWS OFF AND AS CONTINUES ON. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT QUITE SURE ON THAT YET. I HAVE TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT. BUT AGAIN, I JUST, I DEFINITELY WANTED TO PRESENT IT AND I WANTED TO, TO SHOWCASE IT AND JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF IT. BUT WE RP THIS, UH, NO, NOT YET. OKAY. IT'S, IT'S AN EXPLORER. IT'S, AS OF NOW, IT'S MORE OF AN EXPLORATORY KIND OF THING JUST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT IS OFFERED AND IS IT, IS IT GONNA FIT FOR US? YOU KNOW, JUST OFF THE GENERAL CONVERSATION OF IT. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT FITS FOR US JUST BASED ON THE COST THAT WE HAVE. BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO SEE THAT SPREAD COST. THOSE AREN'T, THOSE AREN'T GONNA COME WITH WHEN WE GET THE DETAILS ON IT. WELL, THE TANK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH THE GROUND STORAGE AND THE ELEVATED OR, YEAH, SO ONE OF 'EM IS NORTH SIDE TOWER. MM-HMM. . AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE, THE, UH, WELDED STEEL TANK AT A JAMESON PLANT THAT'S ANOTHER ONE IS IN NEED OF SOME REHAB. UM, YOU KNOW, JUST DIDN'T, DIDN'T HAVE VERY GOOD COATINGS PUT ON 'EM ORIGINALLY. SO YEAH, THEY JUST, THEY'RE KIND OF FALLING APART AT THIS POINT. YOU GONNA SCRAP IRON AT ONE AT HENDERSON ROAD? THAT LITTLE SMALL ? NOT YET. WE WILL SOON . IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY SEEN ITS LIFE. YES. YES. UM, OKAY. UM, SEE IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE LIST, PLEASE. AND, UH, SO WATERLINE REHABILITATION CREW. SO IN TALKS OF THE LAST TIME WE HAD THE UTILITY REVENUE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, DURING COUNCIL MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS TALKED ABOUT, WELL, WOULD IT BE LUCRATIVE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THEIR OWN WATERLINE REHABILITATION CREW? UH, SO IF YOU CAN OPEN THAT UP FOR ME, UH, PLEASE, WE COULD DO THAT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN JUST TO THAT IMPORTANT NUMBER RIGHT THERE OF, OF A PER FOOT YES. RIGHT THERE. SO FOR THIS, FOR US TO DO IT, IT'D BE $227 PER LINEAR FOOT FOR A CONTRACTOR TO DO IT IS $229 PER LINEAR FOOT. BUT THERE'S ONE IMPORTANT THING THAT I DID, I DIDN'T EXPLORE, I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S GONNA EXIST FOR US, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE GOTTA LOOK AT THE TYPE OF INSURANCE THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS TYPE OF THING, AND ALSO THE TYPE OF LIABILITY OR CHARITY BONDING THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ON THESE CERTAIN THINGS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REHABILITATING EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PIPE BURSTING OR, OR YOU KNOW, AUGERING A NEW WATER LINE IN PLACE, OR EVEN OPEN TRENCHING, THESE TYPES OF THINGS, THERE'S EXISTING UTILITIES EVERYWHERE. SO YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WHEN YOU START EXCAVATING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COMPLETELY TEAR OUT, YOU KNOW, PHONE LINES, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU'RE GONNA GET ALL THAT CHARGED BACK TO YOU. UM, AND ALSO THE, UH, OF IT TOO IS A, IS, YOU KNOW, HIRING, HIRING A CREW. I BASED IT ALL ON THE PRICING OF PREVIOUS, UM, PROJECTS THAT WE'D DONE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, LAYING YOUR FEET OF, OF PER, UH, WATERLINE. I THINK I, I USED AN EIGHT INCH WATERLINE AND I, GOSH, I HAVE THE LENGTH IN THERE, UH, 2,250 FEET IS WHAT I BASED IT ON, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF PROJECT. AND THAT'S HOW I CAME UP WITH THESE COSTS PER LINEAR FOOT IN FOR US. YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO INCLUDE NEW EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO BUY A WHOLE NEW DUMP TRUCK, A WHOLE NEW SEPARATE EXCAVATOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT CREW. WHY? AND TO KEEP THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE IT FOR THAT CREW. CURRENTLY. WE HAVE ENOUGH EXCAVATORS FOR OUR CURRENT CREWS, BUT THEY'RE SITTING THERE UNUSED SOME, A LOT OF TIMES. AND IT, IT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT EXCAVATING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR A CREW TO DO NOTHING BUT EXCAVATE AND REPLACE WATER LINES ALL DAY, THAT EXCAVATOR IS GONNA BELONG TO THEM THAT ENTIRE DURATION OF THAT PROJECT. SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO USE IT. SO YES, I UNDERSTAND. YOU SEE SOME SITTING THERE SOMETIME, BUT WE JUST MAY NOT BE EXCAVATING THERE AT THE TIME. YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER, THERE'S OTHER THINGS TO DO. YOU KNOW, WE REHAB MANHOLES, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S JUST EQUIPMENT MANAGEMENT. SO WATERLINE CREWS WORKING OVER THERE AND THEY'RE EXCAVATING SOMETHING. THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE USING IT ALL THE TIME EITHER. IT'S JUST, HEY, ON THIS TIME I'M GONNA BE DOING THIS AND YOU CAN USE IT FOR WHATEVER YOU'RE USING. ALL I'M SAYING IS CORRECT. YES, WE CAN, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. YES. CORRECT. THINGS CAN, YOU KNOW, PUZZLE PIECES CAN BE MOVED [04:55:01] AROUND AND YOU'LL HAVE SOME NUISANCE TIMES WHERE, OH MAN, I CAN'T DO THIS TODAY 'CAUSE THE EQUIPMENT'S GONE, YOU KNOW, BUT YES, OF COURSE YOU HAVE A REQUEST FOR A NEW EXCAVATOR. YEP. WELL, IT HAS, IT'S NOT A YES YET. I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE EQUIPMENT YOU NEED TO, TO DO A, A THOROUGH JOB IN A CITY. AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE INSURANCE. UM, AND WE'RE PROBABLY NOT THERE YET, BUT IT JUST SEEMS THAT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF OUR TIME AND OUR RESOURCES ON WATERLINE REPLACEMENTS WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE GETTING TO THAT'S YOU'RE NOT GETTING TO BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHACK-A-MOLE. YES. AND JUST TRYING TO FEEL OUT WHAT THE, THE LONG RANGE GOAL FOR SHOULD BE FOR THIS DEPARTMENT. BUT, BUT THAT'S LIKE LAST, THE LAST TWO YEARS. I MEAN, WE HAD 300 TO 400 WATER LINES BREAK. RIGHT. BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT. WELL, THOSE CREWS WEREN'T DOING, THEY WEREN'T, IT WAS ALL IN, IT'S AN ALL IN EFFORT. SO WE WEREN'T DOING DITCH MAINTENANCE, WE WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE TREE TRIM, COUNCILMAN BOOTS SAID, AND THAT'S JUST REPAIRING LINES, THAT'S NOT REPLACING LINES THAT NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED. RIGHT. THAT'S JUST BATTLE DAMAGE, REALLY. YEP. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IF YOU'RE REPLACING THESE, IF WE'RE GETTING IN FRONT OF THESE LINES AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE ISSUES AND WE'RE WORKING ON REPLACING THEM, THAT HOPEFULLY SHOULD BE LESS BREAKAGE THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH LATER DOWN THE ROAD. CORRECT. YEAH. IT DEFINITELY TRANSLATES TO THAT. ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU GET FURTHER ALONG IN IT, ANY DROUGHT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE WATER LINE BREAKS. OF COURSE, IT COULD BE A BRAND NEW LINE AND STILL BREAK. MM-HMM, . WELL, I THINK WE'VE BEEN IN A, IN TIMES, EVEN RIGHT NOW THAT ARE UNUSUAL, YOU KNOW, UNUSUAL, UNUSUAL RAIN, UNUSUAL DROUGHT, IT'S BEEN EXTREMES. AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED OFF THOSE EXTREMES. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, NEXT, NEXT YEAR MAY BE DIFFERENT FOR US. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE WERE TASKED TO EXPLORE THIS AND WE DID, YOU KNOW, THE BEST, THE BEST WE COULD. UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A VERY GOOD REFLECTION OF IT. AGAIN, IT'S JUST YOU DON'T HAVE THE, UH, THE INSURANCE OR BONDING PIECE, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA, THAT TO COVER YOURSELF WHEN IF YOU DO DAMAGE UTILITIES OR SOMEONE'S PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU, YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT. WELL, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT COSTS WOULD BE AS WELL. YES. AND I, YOU KNOW, I JUST, TO BE HONEST, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHERE, WHERE TO START AT WITH THAT COST. I MEAN, I CAN GET THE COST. I'LL, I'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THE COST, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO PURSUE. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GREAT, A GREAT ANALYSIS. UM, I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE THERE YET, AND I THINK THERE'S STILL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, BUT IT'D BE GOOD TO KEEP BRINGING THIS UP EVERY BUDGET AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT. I MEAN, AT SOME POINT, MAYBE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO IN THIS. OKAY. WELL, AND I'M GONNA COME BACK AND SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO LARGELY AGREE WITH YOUR DECISION TO INCORPORATED A ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT INTO THIS DEAL, BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THAT WOULD COME UP. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN REPAIRING WATER LINES FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS, YOU KNOW? YEP. AND BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE ENOUGH, WE HAVE ENOUGH EXCAVATORS FOR OUR CURRENT CREWS THAT WE HAVE THAT EXCAVATE, YOU KNOW, IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF OPERATORS WE HAVE. BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE AWAY FOR EVEN A PERIOD OF TIME. IS IT, IT, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET, LIKE HOW, UH, COUNCILMAN SARTON JUST SAID WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THAT SAID THING DONE THAT WEEK BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE HAS IT TIED UP, SO. GOT IT. THAT'S JUST WHAT I LOOK AT. UM, OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ANY, I THINK WE WENT THROUGH 'EM ALL ALREADY. YES. A ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? AGAIN, THAT SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE ONE, IT'S JUST, IT'S GONNA GO, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON 5 6 5 WATER? I DO WANNA TELL YOU THAT I WENT THROUGH ESTIMATED FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 REVENUE VERSUS YOUR WATER, YOUR SEWER, AND YOUR PLANT OPERATIONS. AND YOU HAVE EXACTLY $315,000 LEFT. AWESOME. AMAZING HOW THAT HAPPENS. SO SEWER PLAN ALSO PLANS THE UTILITY BUILDING OFFICE, I'M HEARING CONTINGENCY RIGHT? IS WHAT I'M HEARING. I'M HEARING THAT TOO. OKAY. OKAY. BUT IT'S JUST, WE'VE GOTTA GET THE, WE'VE GOTTA GET THESE ESTIMATES AND THESE BUDGET NUMBERS CORRECTED SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT. GOTCHA. REVENUE CONTINGENCY WATER, SEWER, PLANT OPERATIONS. AND THEN PHIL JUST SAID UTILITY BILLING, YOU BREAK OUT THE OFFICE CREW HERE IN THE CITY HALL. BUT THAT'S IN THE GENERAL FRONT, RIGHT? PHIL? NO. SO THE BILLINGS IN , WHAT PAGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? IT SHOULD BE RIGHT BEFORE 5, 6 5, I BELIEVE. SHOULD BE RIGHT BEFORE THAT ONE. I THINK IT'S 5 63. YES. WATER [05:00:01] COLLECTION. YES. FIVE 60. YES, SIR. PAGE 48. BUT YOU'RE NOT FUNDING THE WHOLE WATER COLLECTION OUT OF THE REVENUE, RIGHT? YES. WE, THAT WHOLE DEPARTMENT'S FUNDING OUT WATER INTO REVENUE. OKAY. I'VE GOT IT IN HERE THEN. SO I'VE GOT 6.7 MILLION IN EXPENSES FOR THE WATER COLLECTION. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? PAGE 52, THE BOTTOM OF THE ESTIMATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 6,698,953. OKAY. THAT'S JUST FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT. IT SAYS WATER 5 6 5 WATER COLLECTION. YES. THAT'S OUR WATER DEPARTMENT. YES. OKAY. THEN UTILITY COLLECTIONS, THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, RIGHT? YES. YES. WELL, THAT'S 900 930 8,000. YES. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A DEFICIT THIS YEAR? YES, SIR. OF $623,000? YES, SIR. OKAY. I HOPE I'M WRONG. AND THAT'S DESPITE THE WATER REVENUE INCREASE. SO ARE YOUR REVENUES ES ESTIMATING WHAT, WHAT CHRIS WAS ALLUDING TO WITH THE, UH, LOWER USAGE? OR IS THAT JUST BASIC RUN RATE? THAT'S JUST BASED ON, UH, HISTORICAL RATES I LOOKED AT, TOOK A 10 YEAR AVERAGE AND FIGURED OUT WE'VE SPENT RECOLLECT 80% IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS. SO JUST DUE THE MATH. SOUNDS LIKE YOUR CONTINGENCY DISAPPEARED AND NOW YOU HAVE A DEFICIT OF 20. YEAH. $623,000 CUT. YEP. FELL GOOD WHILE I LASTED TOO MUCH. UM, HOW, HOW ABOUT THE, UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT IS THIS, WHAT ABOUT THE, ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN CREDIT CARD FEES? ANYBODY SEE THAT? BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THE GUYS THAT USES A CREDIT CARD, BUT I SHOULD PROBABLY CHARGE 3% FOR THE PRIVILEGE. SO PHIL, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? WELL, THAT'S UTILITY BILLING. WE, WE PAY A FEE TO OUR CREDIT CARD PROCESSOR. PLUS WE ALSO, IF YOU PAY ONLINE OR YOU PAY, UH, ON THE PHONE, THE INCOME ALSO CHARGES US A FEE ON TOP OF OUR CREDIT CARD PROCESS. WHY? WHY ARE WE NOT FORCING THAT OFF ON? WE ARE FORCING SOME OF IT OFF ON THE CUSTOMERS, BUT NOT ALL OF IT. IF YOU COME IN, IS THERE, IS THERE THE, IS IT, OR DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, 'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T, IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE I SET THAT UP. I JUST THREW A CARD ON THERE WHEN I DID MINE. BUT DO WE TAKE A EFT ACCOUNT, BANK ACCOUNT DRAFT ELECTRONICALLY ON THAT? MM-HMM. . YEAH. AND THAT'S FREE. THAT WOULD BE FREE, RIGHT? YES. YES. SO I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY ENCOURAGE PAY BY CHECK OR EFT AS A PART POST TO CREDIT CARD. I MAY CHANGE MY WAYS. MM-HMM. . [05:05:01] YEAH. WE, WE HAVE CUSTOMERS WHO PAY BY BANK DRIVE. BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL, I DON'T FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A MUNICIPALITY, WE SHOULD BE ALLOWING OR INCURRING THOSE FEES FOR SOMEBODY TO USE THEIR CREDIT CARD. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I'M AN OFFENDER. SO, SO LET ME ASK THE QUESTION, JUST SINCE WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION. SO IF I CALL IN TO USE MY CREDIT CARD AND MY BILL'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS MM-HMM. , I'M GONNA GET CHARGED A HUNDRED AND 103. 103 FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR DOING THAT. YES, SIR. RIGHT. AND, AND THAT COVERED. SO WHEN I DO THAT, AND TRAVIS DOES THAT, AND DAHLSTROM DOES, WELL, HE DOESN'T LIVE HERE, BUT, UM, WHATEVER, DOES THAT COVER THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS? THAT COVERS PART OF IT. OKAY. UH, BECAUSE IF YOU COME IN AND YOU PRESENT A CREDIT CARD, WE DON'T CHARGE THE CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEE. CORRECT. WE STILL HAVE TO PAY IT, BUT WE DON'T CHARGE YOU FOR THAT CONVENIENCE. BUT WHY DON'T WE CHARGE IT? JUST HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT. WHAT WE SHOULD. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE POINT IS, IS IF I CALL IN OVER THE PHONE, YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE ME. BUT IF I WANT TO CIRCUMVENT THAT AND GET IT FOR FREE, I JUST WALK IN AND DO IT. YEAH. IT SHOULD BE ONE FEE FOR ALL CREDIT CARD, WHATEVER. AND DETAINERS POINT THAT MAY DRIVE PEOPLE, WELL, I DON'T WANNA PAY THIS. WELL, YOU CAN DO AUTODRAFT. YOU CAN DO, YOU CAN MAIL A CHECK. MAIL A CHECK. YOU CAN PUT COINS IN THE BOX OR, OR WHATEVER. MM-HMM. . BUT Y'ALL SHOULDN'T, THE CITY SHOULDN'T BE PAYING FOR MY CONVENIENCE TO USE THE CARD. RIGHT. AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ME. I'M DOING THIS CURRENTLY. RIGHT. AND I, I SHOULDN'T, SO, SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO CHANGE THAT? UH, PROBABLY NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE FLICK AND SEE. SO, SO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE. PUT THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM. EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS. YEAH. YOU PUT INFORMATION PIECE RIGHT THERE, JUST LIKE YOU DID THE TAX OFFICE WHERE YOU DID AT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO PAY ANY KIND OF ELECTRONIC, ELECTRONICALLY, ANY, ANY WAY YOU WANT TO, BUT IT'S GONNA COST YOU 80%. YEAH. AND IT, IT MAY BE THAT IN AN ORDINANCE WE SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO AUTOMATIC CONDUCTION, THERE'S NO FEE. IF YOU WRITE A CHECK OR CASH, THERE'S NO FEE. BUT CREDIT CARDS ARE SUBJECT TO WHATEVER. YEAH. AND I WOULDN'T NEED, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY THAT WE WOULD TAKE A CARD OVER THE PHONE. WOULDN'T WE JUST REFER 'EM? RIGHT. IT'S THE SERVICE TO THE PORTAL. YEAH. RIGHT. WE REFER, IF YOU CALL IN AND SAY, I WANT TO PAY MY PHONE, PAY MY BILL ON THE PHONE. WE GIVE YOU AN 800 NUMBER THAT YOU CALL, AND THEN THE CITY'S CHARGED A FEE AND TO FOR THAT PROCESSING. AND SO WE TURN AROUND AND CHARGE YOU THAT PROCESSING FEE. YOU AS THE PERSON, YOU AS A CUSTOMER. BUT NOT ALL OF IT. I THINK WE DO. OKAY. I THINK OUR CONVENIENCE FEE COVERS THAT. ALL THE, ALL OF OUR CHARGE FOR, WELL, LET'S NOT JUST, LET'S NOT GET TOO MUCH DEEPER INTO IT. LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, BUT SO, SO LET'S INVESTIGATE THAT. LET'S PROVIDE AN EMAIL BACK. LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROPER THING TO DO IS TO CHANGE IT. MY OBJECTION BACK. THEY WERE, THEY WERE DOING IT FOR FREE AND DEPEND AVENUE IS TAKING THEM TO CLEANERS. WELL, TO ME, IF YOU HAVE OPTIONS, THOSE LITTLE, WELL, I THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT, YOU ALSO ALSO SHOULD REMOVE THE A CH FEE, UH, ONLINE. I THINK WE NEED TO BE FAIR THAT YOU'RE ENCOURAGING 'EM TO GO TO AUTO DRAFT OR AC OR PAY BY ELECTRONIC CHECK THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE CHARGING THE ELECTRONIC CHECK UNLESS WE'RE BEING CHARGED FOR IT. CORRECT. RIGHT. IF WE'RE BEING CHARGED. BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST SWITCHING. IF WE'RE BEING CHARGED FOR IT, FINE. BUT I DON'T. YEAH. AND THEN THEY'LL, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE ONLY OPTION IS TO MAIL A CHECK, SO JUST PICK YOUR POISON. CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M JUST SAYING LET'S BE CONSISTENT TO PEOPLE TO AVOID PUTTING ANY FEE OR DROP YOUR CHECK OFF. I DROP THE CHECK OFF. NEVER. THAT'S WHAT I DO. I LIKE THE BOX. IT'S A FUN TRIP UP TO THE CITY HALL. ALRIGHT, A BOX UP THERE. WE WILL KEEP MOVING FORWARD. UH, WE'LL DO A FIVE 70 NEXT. IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD BE RIGHT ON THE NEXT PAGE. PAST 5, 6 5. UH, PAGE 53. UM, THIS IS OUR, UH, OUR SEWER DEPARTMENT. UM, AGAIN, THERE'S A, IT'S THE SALARY INCREASE IS, UH, DECISION PACKAGES. WE'LL GET TO THOSE, UH, WHEN WE GET, AFTER WE COMPLETE THIS, WE'LL GET TO 'EM AT THE END. WE'LL LOOK AT ALL THE DECISION PACKAGES. AND THAT'S THE ONLY INCREASE, OR THAT'S THE ONLY INCREASE THAT I, I DEALT WITH WAS THE SALARIES. UM, AGAIN, UH, [05:10:01] A MYRIAD OF INCREASES JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE SEEN. UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON PERSONNEL SERVICES? OKAY, UH, SUPPLIES. UH, ONE OF THE INCREASES THAT WE SAW WAS, UH, CHEMICAL SUPPLIES. AND THIS, WHAT THIS ACTUALLY IS, IS THIS WAS THE, UM, THE BOWEL REMEDIATION THAT WAS APPROVED FOR US TO USE AT THE LIFT STATIONS. UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS SOME, I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMETIME LAST PHYSICAL YEAR, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. BUT IT WASN'T REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET. AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT LINE ITEM AND, AND THE AMOUNT GOT PUT IN THERE AS, AS THAT, AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD COME OUTTA UTILITY REVENUE. UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GOT ADDED IN THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT THE, IT'S A DECISION PACKAGE AS WELL. 'CAUSE IT WAS THE DECISION PACKAGE WHEN IT WAS DECIDED ON. BUT I LEFT IT ALL IN PLACE JUST TO NOTE THAT WE GOTTA START FUND ACTUALLY PUTTING THE FUND IN THERE. UM, THE 30,000 IS WHAT IT WOULD COST PER YEAR. UM, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON SUPPLIES? ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. UH, R AND M. UH, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, UH, LET'S SEE. NO NOTABLE CHANGES IN THAT, IN THAT AREA, BUT, UH, IF THERE'S ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, ON REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE? NO. OKAY. UH, IS, IS 6 75? JUST NOTHING. I MEAN, I THINK AT ONE TIME THE CITY WAS PUTTING BACK MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE PROJECTS IN SOME CAPACITY, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT LINE ITEM WAS FOR. AND IT JUST GOT LEFT IN THERE. SO HASN'T BEEN ANY MONEY IN IT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. UM, OKAY. UH, GOING ON TO, UH, WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? OKAY. SERVICES, UH, AGAIN, NO, THERE'S, SAME THING. THERE'S NO NOTABLE CHANGES ON SERVICES. UM, UNLESS YOU KNOW ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. UH, MISCELLANEOUS, AGAIN, THIS SAME, SAME THING. CONTINGENCY JUST PUTTING IT IN SEWER AS WELL AS WE DID IN WATER, UM, AS A DECISION PACKAGE. AND IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THROUGH THE REST OF THIS? NOW I KNOW CAPITAL, YES. CAPITAL PURCHASES HAS A CHANGE TO, THOSE ARE ALL DECISION PACKAGES. I JUST PUT 'EM UNDER THAT LINE ITEM. ALL THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES. UM, OKAY. NO QUESTIONS. WE'LL MOVE TO THE DECISION PACKAGES IN THE SEWER. OKAY. SO AGAIN, BIOREMEDIATION, THAT'S THE, UM, THE CHEMICAL JUST THAT WE STARTED USING AT THE LIFT STATIONS. IT WAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE THAT AMOUNT, TAKE, WE KNOW IT'S COMING OUTTA UTILITY REVENUE AND USE IT TO FUND THAT ACCOUNT. UM, AGAIN, NUMBER ONE FOR THIS DEPARTMENT WAS CONTINGENCY AGAIN, UM, 300,000, SAME AMOUNT AS IT WAS ON WATER. UM, JUST AS A DECISION PACKAGE. UM, ONE OF THE, SO THIS, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM CONTINGENCY, ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, AND I WOULD DEBATE WHETHER SWITCHING THOSE AROUND, IF I'M BEING HONEST. UM, BUT, UM, ONE OF OUR, OUR SEWER CAMERA THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, IT'S, UM, IT'S, GOSH, I THINK THEY PURCHASED IT IN 2007 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. BUT, UM, IT, IT'S AT THE POINT WHERE IT'S, IT'S NO LONGER FUNCTIONAL. IT WAS BARELY FUNCTIONAL A YEAR AGO. UM, AND IT'S AT THE AGE WHERE THE MANUFACTURER JUST DOESN'T MAKE PARTS FOR IT ANYMORE. YOU REALLY, YOU CAN'T REPAIR IT. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO REPAIR IT. UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE A TRAILER ALREADY THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S ENCAPSULATED IN OF ALL THE EQUIPMENT. AND WE CAN UTILIZE THAT EXISTING TRAILER STILL. IT'S STILL A DECENT CONDITION TRAILER COVERED TRAILER. UM, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD ALLOT FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE CAMERA AND ALSO, UM, THE, UM, UH, INSTALLATION OF IT INTO RETROFITTING THAT TRAILER. UH, SO CAN YOU CLICK ON THAT ONE PLEASE? THE, UH, SEWER CAMERA PURCHASE? I BELIEVE I PUT ALL THE DETAILS IN THERE. UM, YEAH, SO, SO IN HERE I PUT SOME COSTS. I PUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE PAID TO FILM PINE PLACE TO PREEMPTIVE OF THE EMERGENCY REPLACEMENT THAT WE DID AND ALSO THE A 8 1 55 THAT WE PAID TO, UH, FILM THE SEWER LINES THAT WERE DOWNTOWN. NOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE IN-HOUSE IF WE HAD THE PROPER CAMERA TO DO, JUST TO KIND OF SHOWCASE, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU CAN SAVE BY HAVING IT IN-HOUSE, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME, BUT WE HAVE ISSUES, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY UNABLE TO IDENTIFY THEM. YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE FORCED TO EXCAVATE, THERE'S NO EXPLORATION INTO THESE UNDERGROUND LINES BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CURRENT CAMERA THAT'S FUNCTIONAL AT THIS POINT. UM, DID YOU HIRE SOMEBODY FOR THAT? YES, WE HIRED SOME. WE HAVE CONTRACTED OUT FOR BOTH OF THOSE. AND SO, AGAIN, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FILM OR ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO, UH, CCTV, ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S STORM OR SANITARY SEWER. 'CAUSE AGAIN, THIS CAMERA'S SOMETHING YOU CAN USE FOR A LOT. A LOT OF YOUR STORM DRAINS TOO. UM, THAT'S WHAT WE QUOTED IT AS ANYWAY. SOMETHING THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, IT TIRES, YOU CAN PUT BIGGER TIRES ON IT, IT CAN RAISE UP AND DOWN. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. YOU CAN GET INTO BIGGER PIPES. SO IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO COVER EVERYTHING FOR US. SPENT $23,000 RECENTLY, UH, TO, TO CONTRACT THAT OUT. CORRECT. SO [05:15:01] PROBABLY NEED TO PUT A LID ON THAT. YES, I WOULD AGREE. UM, SO THAT'S, SO THAT'S THAT ONE. SO, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUICKLY? MM-HMM. , DO ANY OF OUR SISTER CITIES HAVE ONE OF THESE? UH, YES. SO, UH, WHAT BY PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT? YES. WE PURCHASED ONE WHILE I WAS THERE. AND, UM, IT WAS THEIRS WAS THAT IT WAS STILL FUNCTIONAL WHEN THEY WERE REPLACED IT, IT JUST GOTTEN TO THE END OF SERVICE LIFE AND THEY REPLACED IT. WELL, WHAT I'M GOING TO WITH IS THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO RENT THIS OUT TO, TO HELP A SISTER CITY OUT TO YES. NEEDS TO GO VIDEO SOMETHING. YES. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING IT, IF YOU COULD RENT A, IF YOU COULD RENT A CREW AND A CAMERA TO WHATEVER TOWN, YOU MIGHT GET IT DONE FOR THEM A LOT CHEAPER THAN THEY COULD GO HIRE SOME COMPANY THAT'S, YOU KNOW. YES. YES. I, I AGREE WITH THAT. YES. THERE COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THAT ONCE WE PURCHASE IT. SO, UH, ALL THE GIZMO THAT PULLS THE CAMERA THROUGH THE PIPE IS ALL, IS STILL USABLE ON THE, ON THE TRAILER OR YOU GOTTA DO SOMETHING FOR THAT? I'D, YES, IT'S MOST LIKELY IT'S STILL USABLE. YOU KNOW, AS FAR, LIKE THE REEL, THE CABLE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THE MOTOR ON THE, ON THE CABLE REEL. YES. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS PROBABLY ARE STILL USABLE. BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S RETROFITTABLE TO ONE OF THE CAMERAS TODAY THAT, THAT'S A QUESTION I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO. I WOULD DOUBT IT. 'CAUSE THEY LIKE MONEY. YES, I WOULD AGREE. . I MEAN, IT'S OBSOLETED AT THIS POINT. AGAIN, WE COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE GONNA CHANGE SOME FITTING OR SOMETHING. YEP. MAKE, MAKE 20. JUST LET'S JUST ASSUME 15 YEARS AT $150,000 IS, IS NOT A, IS NOT TOO BAD IF WE WERE TO GET A DECADE AND A HALF THE NEW ONE. CORRECT. YEAH. AND I, I THINK YOU COULD EASILY GET THAT OUT OF IT AS LONG AS IT'S MAINTAINED PROPERLY. NO, WELL YOU COULD, THE THOUGHT YOU BROUGHT UP A THOUGHT TOO ABOUT VIDEOING YOUR STORM SEWER SYSTEMS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ISSUES WITH OUR STORM SEWERS JUST LIKE WE DO WITH OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, SEWER LINES AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LEFT UP TO IS JUST TO SPECULATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE ISSUE IS. YEAH. BECAUSE I MEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU HAVE SOME DISJOINTED STORM SEWER OR YOU HAVE A CLOGGED STORM SEWER, IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT BY LOOKING DOWN IN THE INLET OR DOWN IN THE MANHOLE, YOU'RE, YOU DON'T KNOW. EXACTLY. AND, YOU KNOW, ALSO THE GOAL, THE GOAL FOR THIS TOO IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I'D, UH, YOU KNOW, A PLACE THAT I'D LIKE TO GET TO ANYWAY IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PREEMPTIVELY FILMING, YOU KNOW, JUST THROWING NUMBERS OUT THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, SAY YOU DO A HUNDRED THOUSAND LINEAR FEET OF, OF LINE A YEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU FILM EVERY YEAR. AND SO YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE DOING OUR STREET ASSESSMENTS, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY CHECKING THE CONDITION OF THESE STREETS. WE'RE DOING IT EVERY FIVE YEARS. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TREAT SOME OF THESE THINGS THE SAME WAY WHERE WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THE CONDITION IT IS TODAY, BUT HOW IT DEGRADES AND, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WHEN WE FILM IT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO KEEP TRACK OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IF IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND TRYING TO BE MORE PREEMPTIVE AND REACTIVE. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS HOW YOU GET THERE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CAMERA? OKAY. GO BACK TO THE LIST. THIS, I'M ON SOAPBOX HERE, BUT, UH, JUST THIS IS A, THIS IS A TYPE OF MAINTENANCE THAT YOU PERFORM ON YOUR SYSTEM, CORRECT? YOU DON'T REALLY THINK OF MAINTAINING A GRAVITY LINE, BUT IT IS A FORM OF MAINTENANCE. YES. WE FOUND OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY THAT HAVEN'T BEEN MAINTAINED AND THEY HAVE JUST FALLEN DOWN AROUND OUR, OUR EARS. YES. OR HAD THEY BEEN MAINTAINED PROPERLY OR THEY STILL BE, GET ANOTHER 10 YEARS OUT OF THEM OR SOMETHING. YES, CORRECT. YOU CAN IDENTIFY THOSE, THOSE SMALL ISSUES LIKE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, PIPE SEPARATING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET IN THERE AND FIX IT BEFORE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE LINE START FAILING AND GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE REST OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM THAT'S IN THE AREA AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FROM THERE. UM, SO LET'S SEE. OKAY. ALSO, UH, BACK YOUR TRUCK PURCHASE. I WANTED TO PUT THIS ON HERE. UH, IF YOU COULD, UH, CLICK ON THAT ONE PLEASE. IT'S NOW, I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION 'CAUSE WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO PURCHASE A NEW ONE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS. AND I'M BASING THAT OFF OF A 15 YEAR LIFE CYCLE. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S AT 12 YEARS WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME REPAIRS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, JUST OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SPENT 55,000, OR I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE, THE COST SPREAD OF THAT ONE IS, UH, 55,000 IF WE DID IT OVER SEVEN YEARS. BUT AGAIN, THIS ONE, UH, ONCE WE GET TO THAT, ONCE WE GET TO THAT 15 YEAR YEAR MARK, I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE PREPARED TO REPLACE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, START THINK KEEPING THAT IN THE BACK OF Y'ALL'S MINDS. WE DON'T NEED IT TODAY, BUT WE ARE GONNA NEED IT IN THREE YEARS. AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO INCLUDE IT AS A DECISION PACKAGE JUST TO TALK ABOUT IT. UM, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY OUR VECTOR TRUCK'S STILL OPERATIONAL. IT'S, YOU KNOW, [05:20:01] IT DOES HAVE, IT DOES HAVE ITS REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ISSUES, JUST LIKE OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, BUT IT HASN'T GOTTEN OUTTA CONTROL OR ANYTHING YET. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIMITED DOWNTIME WITH IT WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE REPAIRS ON IT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN, LUCKILY THEY'VE BEEN FAIRLY SMALL REPAIRS AT THIS POINT. UM, I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE HAD WITH IT, WITH THE BACK DOOR ON IT WOULDN'T CLOSE. AND IT HAD A, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST HYDRAULICS THAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. AND ALSO THE, THE, IT'S GOT A BIG OLD GASKET AROUND THE BACK END OF IT THAT SEALS IT UP. THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED. YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE'VE HAD FROM IT RECENTLY. YOU KNOW, WATER PUMP GO OUT ON IT, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, JUST HECTOR, JUST EXPLAIN TO US AND THE PUBLIC WHAT THE VECTOR TRUCK DOES. OKAY, SO, SO THE VECTOR TRUCK, IT'S GOT, IT'S GOT TWO VERY PRIMARY FUNCTIONS. UH, NUMBER ONE, YOU'RE ABLE TO, UM, JET ROD THE LINES, WHICH I MEAN, YOU'RE CLEARING THE LINES, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CLOG, WHETHER IT'S GREASE, YOU KNOW, UH, A GENERAL BLOCKAGE OF ANYTHING ELSE. YOU KNOW, DO MUCH TOILET PAPER, FOR INSTANCE, RAGS, TOWELS, WHATNOT. IT CAN PULL IT ALL OUTTA THERE AND CLEAR THAT LINE, GET THE SEWAGE FLOWING AS IT SHOULD. BUT IT ALSO SERVES AS A, UH, YOU KNOW, A SUCTION DEVICE. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY, YOU HAVE A MANHOLE THAT'S FULL, FOR INSTANCE. YOU NEED TO GET DOWN THERE TO MAINTAIN IT, OR YOU NEED TO GET DOWN THERE TO FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM. WELL, YOU CAN VACUUM ALL THAT STUFF OUT OF THERE. AND AS IT ALSO HAS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT CAN ALSO SERVE ANOTHER PRIMARY FUNCTION OF, UM, YOU KNOW, HYDRO EXCAVATION. WHICH WHAT THAT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE, A LOT OF AREAS WE RUN INTO TOWN, YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY UTILITIES, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY PHONE LINES, GAS LINES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YOU BASICALLY GET, UH, A PRESSURE WASHER, A PRESSURE WASHER WAND AND YOU KNOW, SPRAY THE DIRT, BREAK IT ALL UP, AND THE WHOLE TIME YOU'RE VACUUMING IT OUT. SO THAT WAY YOU'RE EXCAVATING IN A SAFER MANUAL WHERE YOU'RE NOT GONNA DAMAGE THESE UTILITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CALL LOCATES FOR, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MARKED, YOU HIT 'EM, YOU'RE LIABLE FOR 'EM. SO CITY HAS TO PAY. SO IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO GET US THROUGH SOME OF THOSE AREAS. WE'VE USED THAT SEVERAL TIMES. I MEAN, IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A, A, A SECONDARY FUNCTION VERSUS A PRIMARY FUNCTION. YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY WE'RE GONNA USE IT FOR THE FIRST TWO FUNCTIONS I'VE MENTIONED. WELL, YOU'VE ALSO GOT IT FOR, I'VE SEEN Y'ALL USE IT FOR BASICALLY DRAINAGE. WHENEVER THERE'S FLOODING GOING ON, I'VE SEEN YOU GO THROUGH AND VACUUM UP IN CERTAIN AREAS TO YES, YES. THE SAME ACTIONS. THE SAME ACTIONS WE PERFORM ON SANITARY SEWER LINES. WE CAN PERFORM IT ON DRAINAGE LINES AS WELL. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD AN ISSUE THE CORNER OF BER ANDERSON, WE HAD THE CORNER OF KYBER ANDERSON TWO DAYS AGO. WE HAD TO PULL ALL THAT, PULL A BUNCH OF DEBRIS OUT, AND AGAIN, WE WERE JET RODING IT, TRYING TO BREAK IT O BREAK IT LOOSE. YEAH. WASN'T IT EVANS THOUGH? YOU WENT OVER THERE AND VACUUMED UP A LOT OF THE WATER AND TO TRY TO KEEP IT FROM GOING INTO THE LADY INTO THE HOUSE? UH, NOW THAT MARCH STORM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, NO. WELL, WHAT WE DID DO IS WE DID GO OVER THERE AND VACUUM OUT ALL THE INLETS. ALL THE INLETS GOT FULL OF LEAVES, STICKS, WE VACUUMED ALL THAT STUFF OUT TO KEEP THE WATER FLOWING, IS WHAT WE DID. IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. YEAH. OKAY. I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE BOUGHT THAT TRUCK. I'M SURPRISED WE DIDN'T GET A FULL 20 YEARS OUT OF IT, OR 15 TO 20. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE PROMISING US. YEAH, IT PROBABLY, IT PROBABLY DOES. I MEAN, YOU, YOU MENTIONED A WATER PUMP. UH, IT'S MINIMAL. I JUST, YEAH. PUT ONE IN ONE OF OUR VEHICLES THE OTHER DAY. YOU'VE GOT THE SEAL ON THE BACK, THAT'S A MAINTENANCE ITEM. I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE REPLACE. UM, SO YEAH, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WITH THIS VECTOR TRUCK, I MEAN, WE ARE PUSHING IT TO THE 15 YEAR MARK BEFORE WE PURCHASE IT. 'CAUSE AGAIN, I'M NOT ASKING TO PURCHASE THIS PHYSICAL YEAR, I JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS IT. SO WE PURCHASED IT IN, YOU KNOW, TWO MORE PHYSICAL YEARS PAST THIS, YOU KNOW, AT, AT THAT POINT IN TIME AS READY WILL BE AT ITS 15 YEAR MARK. AND, AND WE FEEL IT RIGHTFULLY SO, SHOULD BE REPLACED. UH, BUT AGAIN, JUST WANNA BRING IT TO ATTENTION. I DON'T WANNA CONSTANTLY BE THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SAY MY EQUIPMENT'S BROKE DOWN EVERY YEAR. YOU KNOW, I WANNA TRY TO GET AHEAD OF, GET AHEAD OF ALL THIS AND KIND OF MORE OR LESS HAVE A REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE FOR YOU GUYS. AND THIS IS KIND OF THE START OF IT. OKAY. AND, UH, OKAY. UH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LIST PLEASE? OKAY. SO, UH, SO MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING. SO WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, FIVE FOLKS THAT ARE IN, IN SANITARY SEWER COLLECTIONS. AND AGAIN, ONE OF 'EM IS THE FOREMAN THAT'S ALSO OVER STREETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS, HE'S JUST A PUBLIC WORKS FOREMAN, IS WHAT HE'S CONSIDERED. UM, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, HAVING ANOTHER MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN WOULD MAKE US A LITTLE MORE VERSATILE. AND, UM, SO GENERALLY WHAT HAPPENS IF, IF WE'RE EXCAVATING ON AN ITEM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, A, A SEWER TAP REPAIR, MAIN LINE REPLACEMENT, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT WE'RE EXCAVATING MAKING A REPAIR. YEAH, THAT'S A CREW OF THREE AT A MINIMUM. UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR OPERATOR AND TWO OR TWO LABORERS, BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO HAVE, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON THERE TOO, DEPENDING ON THE JOB AND WHERE THE SITE'S LOCATED. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, YOU COULD NEED A FLAGGER OR THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, BUT, AND, AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ONCE THIS, ONCE WE HAVE THAT, ONCE WE'RE ON A JOB SITE OF THIS, OF THIS SIZE, THEN WE ONLY HAVE ONE OTHER PERSON THAT'S ABLE TO FREE. SO LET'S SAY WE HAVE ANOTHER SEWER ISSUE SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON TO SEND. SO WE HAVE TO PULL SOMEONE ELSE AND NOT SHUT THE JOB DOWN. BUT WE ARE A LITTLE BIT LIMITED UNTIL THOSE GUYS GET [05:25:01] BACK ON WHAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY COMPLETE ON SAID JOB SITE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT POINT THEY'RE AT IN THEIR REPAIR. UM, SO WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD GIVE US WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TWO GUYS TO CONTINUE ON SOME OTHER FUNCTIONS, HAVE A CREW FIXING SOMETHING, BUT ALSO HAVE TWO THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF SMALLER MAINTENANCE ITEMS. YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER, UH, A LOT OF OTHER FUNCTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TROUBLE GETTING TO, LIKE MANHOLE REHABILITATION. SO YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, YOU COULD HAVE A CREW, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, UH, MAKING A LINE REPAIR. AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE THESE OTHER TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE REHABILITATING MANHOLES, YOU KNOW, RESEALING 'EM UP TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP SOME OF THE RAIN WATER FROM GETTING IN. UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON FOR A MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN IN THE, IN THE SEWER DEPARTMENT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. AND, UH, THE TRAILER JET UNIT AGAIN, UH, UM, UM, THIS IS, UH, SIMILAR TO THE VECTOR TRUCK. YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE VECTOR FUNCTION, RIGHT? IT'S OUR SMALLER TRUCK. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT AROUND TOWN BEING PULLED BY A PICKUP TRUCK. UM, THIS LITTLE, THIS LITTLE JET UNIT REALLY HELPS US OUT WHEN WE'RE DOWN TO SMALLER LINES, YOU KNOW, SIX INCHES AND ALSO, UH, FOUR INCH LINES. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET INTO THOSE, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS. UM, BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE, IT CAN TEND TO CAUSE SOME ISSUES IF LINES ARE FULL. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU ONLY HAVE ONE WAY TO GET IN SOME OF THESE LINES IF IT'S A DEAD END AND YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT MUCH WATER INTO AN ALREADY SURCHARGE LINE. UM, SO JET TRAILER UNIT, WE DO USE IT. WE DO USE IT QUITE OFTEN. UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY THE SAME AMOUNT AS A VECTOR TRUCK. UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE VECTOR TRUCK DOES NOT NEED TO BE REPLACED TODAY, BUT I DEFINITELY WANNA PUT IT ON THE RADAR FOR WHAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE. THIS ONE, WE PROBABLY NEED TO REPLACE IT IN FOUR YEARS, IS MY ESTIMATE ON THIS ONE. UM, BUT AGAIN, JUST WANNA BRING IT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION SO THAT WAY IT'S AWARE AND IT'LL REMAIN ON THERE. AND WE WILL DISCUSS IT. THIS ONE AND THE VECTOR TRUCK, WE'LL DISCUSS IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR AS IT GETS CLOSER TO THE APPROACHING REPLACEMENT TIME. ANY QUESTIONS, ANY OF THE DECISION PACKAGES? I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT CONTINGENCY REAL QUICK. OKAY. YOU'VE GOT 20,000 IN CONTINGENCY FOR THIS YEAR AND YOU HAVEN'T SPENT ANY OF IT. JUST SAYING, I MEAN, THAT'S GOOD. I MEAN, IN THE OH, OKAY. IN THE SEWER DEPARTMENT? YEAH. DID NOT, SO IT'S HARDER TO JUSTIFY 300,000 WHEN THERE'S NOT EVEN 20 USED. YES. I MEAN, I WILL SAY THIS, UH, TYPICALLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SANITARY SEWER, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A NEED FOR, LET'S LET, LET ME JUST GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE EMERGENCY REPAIRS WE USE, UTILITY REVENUE FOR TODAY OR THIS YEAR. I MEAN, UM, IT $20,000 WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ENOUGH. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A MANHOLE COLLAPSE ON US THAT WAS SIX $63,000 WE HAD TO REPLACE, UM, THE SEWER LINE OVER THERE ON PINE PLACE. I BELIEVE THAT WAS $43,000. SO, I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T HAVE TOUCHED ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT 20,000. SO IT, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE USED IT ANYWAY IF, IF WE HAD TO USE IT FOR THOSE PROJECTS. COULD HAVE USED A OR WE COULD HAVE USED IT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE COVERED THE ENTIRE PROJECT, IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON FIVE? JUST A QUICK UPDATE. WHAT, WHAT CAUSED THE STINK HOLE AT DOWNING IN HOSPITAL STORM DRAIN? HOW WAS THE STORM DRAIN? STORM DRAIN? THE ACTUAL STORM DRAIN ITSELF, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL INLET BOX HAD A HOLE IN IT DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM. NOW WE DID REPLACE TWO SECTIONS OF PIPE COMING OUTTA SET INLET JUST BECAUSE WE, WE PLANTED IT IN THE PROJECT. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASSUMING. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASSUMING WE WERE GONNA FIND WAS EITHER SEPARATED SANITARY OR BROKEN SANITARY. THAT'S WHAT, OR STORM FIND WAS SANITARY. YEAH. A SANITARY SEWER WAS, UH, WELL I SAY IT WAS FINE. IT HAD A REPAIR, A REPAIR CLAMP ON IT OR, YOU KNOW, BUT IT DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE COMPROMISED. BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WITH THOSE TYPES OF, THOSE TYPES OF REPAIRS. UM, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE HOLE THAT WE SAW IT WAS, YOU COULD ACTIVELY TELL IT LOOKED LIKE ALL THE DIRT WAS KIND OF FUNNELING TOWARDS THAT WAY IN THAT MANNER. SO IT, I'M PRETTY, PRETTY POSITIVE IT WAS THAT STORM SEWER. BUT IT, WE DID FIND THE PROBLEM GOT IT FIXED. SO WHEN WE REPAVED THE ROADWAY, IT WON'T BE AN ISSUE AGAIN. AND THAT'S STILL PLANNED TO BE OPENED UP ON THE FIFTH. THAT'S THE PLAN. HOWEVER, WE HAVE NOT CALCULATED THIS WEEK YET. SO I ANTICIPATE AUGUST, I, I I ANTICIPATE TO BE A WEEK PAST AUGUST 5TH, WHICHEVER DAY THAT WAS THE 12TH. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT PUSHING IT RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL TIME. SO HE'S GONNA GET ME KILLED WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT. YEAH. UM, SO THE ONLY THING I COULD DO, OR WHAT, THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN DO IS WE'RE GONNA TRY OR PUSH, UH, MATILDA TO GIVE US AN UPDATE NEXT WEEK AND I'LL PASS THAT ALONG TO EVERYONE AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE. BUT, YOU KNOW, HAD A HURRICANE, ALL THESE STORMS AFTER, I MEAN, YOU COULDN'T ASK FOR A WORSE TIME, YOU KNOW. UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. OKAY. UH, LAST, ARE YOU GOING ONTO ONE MORE? WE GOT ONE MORE UNLESS YOU GOT QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. NOPE, GO AHEAD. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS, UH, 5 7 1 PLAN OPERATIONS. NEXT PAGE OVER PAGE 55. UM, AGAIN, THIS SAYS, UH, INCREASES TO SALARIES. UM, AND WE WILL, AGAIN, WE'LL GET TO THAT IN DECISION PACKAGES. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT. THAT'S WHERE [05:30:01] THE, UH, THE, UH, EXTRA IS COMING FROM. UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR PERSONNEL SERVICES? NOPE. OKAY. MOVE ON TO SUPPLIES. UM, AGAIN, THE, UH, NOTABLE INCREASE ON THIS ONE IS AGAIN, FUEL EXPENSE. AND THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENCAPSULATE IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY USING. AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REFLECT THAT AMOUNT ON THE NEXT BUDGET. UM, I DO NOTICE THOUGH, THAT ESTIMATED 18,000 YEAH, WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT. YEAH. SO YOU'RE ONLY AT FIVE SO FAR THIS YEAR. YEAH, SO I, I'M STILL NOT CONVINCED ON YOU'RE THROUGH MAY. SO THAT'S LESS THAN HALF A YEAR OR THAT'S MORE THAN HALF A YEAR. SO, BUT, BUT THAT'S BASED OFF THE PROGRAM THOUGH. I KNOW. SO NO, I'M NOT FAULTING HECTOR ON THIS. YEAH. ALL FAULTING HEC. NO . WE'LL TAKE IT. ALRIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON SUPPLIES? OKAY, UH, MOVING ON. SO WE ARE REPAIRING MAINTENANCE AND THREE 15 R AND M INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS A NOTABLE INCREASE. AGAIN, IT IS DECISION PACKAGE, BUT I WILL TOUCH ON IT REAL QUICK. UM, IT, THAT IS FOR, WHAT WE'VE NOTICED IS THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, SLUICE GATES, VALVES, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THERE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT ARE DETERIORATED. AND A LOT OF 'EM ARE AT A POINT THEY'RE NOT USABLE ANYMORE. YOU KNOW, AND A GOOD EXAMPLE IS IN THE BACK AND THE DIGESTERS. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A WAY TO, TO SEPARATE DIGESTERS. I MEAN, NONE OF THE, NONE OF THE GATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WORKED. UM, THIS HAS BEEN A, A LONG TIME ISSUE. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT WITH THIS INCREASE, THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS SEE THIS INCREASE SO THAT WAY WE CAN START CHIPPING AWAY IT, START REPLACING A COUPLE VALVES A YEAR, A COUPLE S SLEUTH GATES A YEAR, AND JUST KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT MOVING ON IT. UM, AND ALSO TO TRY TO INCORPORATE MAINTENANCE INTO THIS SO THAT WAY WE DON'T END UP AT THIS POINT AGAIN WHERE WE'RE REPLACING A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT JUST HAVEN'T BEEN MAINTAINED. THAT'S THE INCREASE ON THAT. UM, AND THE OTHER NOTABLE INCREASE IS, UH, A SLUDGE REMOVAL, WHICH THAT, UM, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE OUR SLUDGE THAT WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE PRESS, THE COMPANY COMES IN PRESSES AND REMOVES ALL THE, ALL THE SOLIDS FROM THE PLAN. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CONTRACT OUT A HUNDRED PERCENT. UM, THE INCREASE IS ACTUALLY FOR, UM, US TO CLEAN OUT THOSE BASINS AS WE DID THIS YEAR. UM, 'CAUSE I JUST WANNA MAKE A NOTE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. TO SOME EXTENT, IT'S ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AS YOU, WE SHOULDN'T LET THEM GO FOR 15 YEARS AND THEN CLEAN 'EM OUT. IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING YOU'RE DOING PERIODICALLY. LIKE FOR INSTANCE, A BASIN PER YEAR. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL OF THEM ANNUALLY, BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A ROTATION ON IT. AND WHY, WHY IS THAT HECTOR? BECAUSE YOU START, YOU START BUILDING UP A LOT OF THOSE DEAD ORGANICS IN THE BOTTOM. AND THAT HAS TWO EFFECTS ON YOUR WASTEWATER PLANT. NUMBER ONE, IT, IT, IT DE IT DISRUPTS THE BALANCE THERE. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF LIVING ORGANISMS THERE. SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP A REALLY GOOD BALANCE OF DEAD AND ALIVE TO KEEP THAT PLANT, TO KEEP THAT PLANT GO RUNNING PROPERLY WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY EFFICIENT, IT'S ACTUALLY TREATING THE WASTEWATER PROPERLY. AND ANOTHER THING IS WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, ALL THAT BUILDUP ON THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS AGAIN, A BUNCH OF INORGANIC SAND, GRIT, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, YOU'RE LOSING YOUR CAPACITY. YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO STORE AS MUCH BECAUSE YOUR BOTTOM HALF IS FILLED UP WITH SOLIDS. SO THOSE ARE, THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE TWO THINGS. AND I MEAN, JUST, I'VE WORKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLANTS AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S TYPICAL MAINTENANCE TO, TO DO THAT TYPE OF REMOVAL. NOW, I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY OF ANGLETON HAS EVER DONE THAT. AND SO, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE'D LIKE AT SOME POINT WE'D LIKE TO GET THERE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT DECISION PACKAGE WILL BE FOR. UM, ANY QUESTIONS, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. OKAY. UM, MOVING ON TO, UH, SERVICES. UH, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY NOTABLE INCREASES WE HAD HERE. UM, SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, ALL RIGHT. MOVE ON TO MISCELLANEOUS. UH, THIS IS THE ONE THAT, UM, THEY HAVE AN EQUIPMENT PURCHASED IN HERE AND, AND WE WILL DISCUSS THAT IN, UM, UH, DECISION PACKAGES. THAT WAS THE, UH, YES. CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON 5 7 1 AS FAR AS LINE ITEMS? UH, WELL GO AHEAD. OKAY. ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO DECISION PACKAGES. OKAY. SO I'LL, I'M GONNA APOLOGIZE FOR THE RANKING AGAIN ON THIS. UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD 'EM RANKED AND I, I ADDED MORE STUFF AND DIDN'T GO BACK AND RE-RANK IT. UM, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD ACTUALLY PUT A TIE ON THE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH IN THE R AND M INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS NEEDS, UM, THE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH REPLACEMENT OR I SAY REPLACEMENT INSTALLATION 'CAUSE WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ONE THERE, SO WE HAVE A BACKUP GENERATOR THERE, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT THE PROBLEM IS SOMEBODY HAS TO BE THERE TO MANUALLY START IT. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE YOU [05:35:01] HAVE IT THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, LESS. AND, AND AGAIN, CURRENTLY OUR SCADA SYSTEM IS NOT COMPLETED YET. SO REALLY WE HAVE NO NOTION OF WHEN THE GENERATOR NEEDS TO COME ON. WE DON'T HAVE A, A, A PRO OR A A, A CALL OUT SYSTEM WHERE IT'S GONNA TELL US, HEY, YOU LOST POWER COME IN NOW WITH SCADA SYSTEM, WE WILL, BUT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THAT. BUT THAT'S ONE PROBLEM THAT IT POSES. BUT IT'S ALSO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH AN AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH. I MEAN, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VOLTAGE GOING THROUGH THERE THAT SOMEBODY IS PHYSICALLY STANDING IN FRONT OF TO FLIP A SWITCH ON. UM, DON'T LIKE THE SITUATION. IT'S NOT A VERY SAFE SITUATION. UM, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS INSTALLED. UH, WE DID TRY TO GO FOR A MITIGATION GRANT ON THIS. UM, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S MOVED FORWARD IN ANY OF THE STEPS AS SOME OF THE OTHER GRANT MITIGATION GRANTS THAT WE HAD PUT IN. UM, SO I, I, AT THIS POINT, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ACCEPTED, UH, IN IT, UH, OR MAYBE NOT THIS YEAR ANYWAY. UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO BRING FORTH BECAUSE BEING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED THE, WE TRIED THE GRANT ROUTE DIDN'T WORK. UM, YOU KNOW, SO I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT SOME SORT OF SOME WAY FOR THE CITY TO FUND THIS, UM, ON THAT AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH WE HAVE 'EM, BUT WE PUT ANOTHER SWITCH OFF TO THE SIDE SO YOU'RE NOT STANDING IN FRONT OF IT, JUST LITTLE ON OFF SWITCH. AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S HOW THOSE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER WHICH ARE SUPPOSED TO OPERATE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND IN FRONT OF IT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ACT ACTUATE IT THAT WAY, YOU'RE NOT IN THAT EXPLOSIVE, UH, AREA. YES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO THROW SWITCH GEAR. HE'S SAYING THAT THE, THAT YOU CAN INSTALL A CONTACTOR THERE THAT'LL YEAH. CLOSE IT. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO AT A BARE MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, IS, IS MAYBE MAKING THAT RETROFIT. UM, BUT PART OF THE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH IS, SO WITH SCADA YOU'LL KNOW THAT THE PLANT'S OFF, THE POWER'S GONE OFF. MM-HMM, . YES. INSTEAD OF SOMEONE GETTING IN THE CAR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, IN THE MIDDLE OF A STORM, MIDDLE HURRICANE, FIND OUT TO GO OUT THERE TO FLIP THE SWITCH. YEAH. IT'S ALREADY ON, IT'S ALREADY ON THE PLANT'S ALREADY RUNNING AGAIN, EVERYTHING'S COME CYCLED BACK ON. BUT YOU SAID IT'S A MANUAL STAR GENERATOR, CORRECT? YEAH. WELL THERE'S, SO YOU HAVE THE GENERATORS OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, THE SWITCH GEAR IS INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, SO YOU HAVE WIRES GOING FROM THERE TO THERE TO START, BUT THE TRANSFER SWITCH IS NOT GONNA WORK IF YOUR GENERATOR'S NOT RUNNING. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. BUT I THINK THIS IS THE COST TO RETROFIT THE YEAH, AND I MEAN THE GENERATOR, THE GENERATOR ITSELF WILL RUN ON AUTO OR MANUAL. I MEAN IT HAS THE SETTINGS ON ALL THAT. YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, UM, IT'S LIKE ANYTHING. IT HAS THE INPUTS AND OUTPUTS. SO ONCE THAT TRANSFER SWITCH TELLS THAT GENERATOR, YOU KNOW, SENDS IT THAT INPUT TO, TO TURN ON, THAT'S WHAT THAT GENERATOR DOES. OKAY. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. YES, IT IS. BUT IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF, GOSH, UH, 600 KILOWATTS. YOU'RE PROUD OF THAT. YEAH. STUFF. UM, OKAY. UM, AND AGAIN, R AND M INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, ANOTHER ONE THAT UH, WE LOOKED STARTED LOOKING INTO NOW IS THE ASSISTANT CHIEF WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATOR. UM, IT'S A POSITION THAT WE'RE LOOKING, LOOKING INTO BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT, UH, CHIEF WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATOR IS AT THE POINT OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHIEF AGE NUMBER OF YEARS ELIGIBLE FOR RETIREMENT AT THIS POINT. UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS CHOOSING, SO, AND YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO SUCCESSION PLAN. AND YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE DID FOR, UH, FOR, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, FOR INSTANCE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR, THAT WAS, THAT'S WHAT WAS CREATED FOR A SUCCESSION PLAN. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. IS THAT WHY YOU HAVE A ZEROED DOUBT IN THE FUTURE? ? NO. UH, I JUST, YEAH. WELL, I'M SAYING YOU'RE GONNA HIRE THIS PERSON, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THAT POSITION AND WE'RE JUST GONNA DO AWAY WITH THE ASSISTANT. I, I JUST DIDN'T PUT IT IN IT. IT SHOULD BE A CONTINUATION OF IT. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T GO AWAY. YEAH, NO IT DOESN'T. YEAH. IT'S KINDA ONE TIME AND KINDA LIKE WITH THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WAS A NEED FOR IT. UH, NOW PART OF IT WAS SUCCESSION, BUT ALSO THE FACT OF THAT THERE'S THE NEED FOR THE WORK WAS THERE TOO. SO THAT'S WHY THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION STAYED AS WELL. EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I'VE MADE THE SWITCH TO DIRECTOR, WE STILL HAVE AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED. AND I FEEL THE SAME WAY WITH THIS POSITION'S. SOMETHING THAT'S STAY THERE. WHERE'S YOUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR? TODAY? ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. YEAH. HE, HE IS NOT HERE. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE HIM COME, I DIDN'T HAVE HIM COME AND PRESENT. I JUST DID IT ALL MYSELF. I THINK IN THE FUTURE, ALL ASSISTANT DIRECTOR SHOULD BE HERE WITH THE DIRECTOR. OKAY. BUT AGAIN, THEY GOT A SEAT. YEAH, THEY GOTTA, THEY GOTTA BE RIGHT THERE IN THE SEAT WITH YOU, CORRECT. YES. AND I'LL MAKE SURE HE IS HERE NEXT TIME. BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT HIM, THAT'S ME DIRECTING HIM NOT TO BE HERE. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, OUT OF THOSE DIFFERENT SECTIONS YOU'VE ASKED FOR BASICALLY A DIFFERENT EMPLOYEE IN EACH SECTION, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU HAVE THE NUMBER ONE IF YOU SAID THERE WAS ONE PERSON I HAD TO HAVE THE STREET, THE STREETS FOREMAN, DEFINITELY. THAT WOULD BE MY NUMBER ONE OUTTA ALL OF THEM OVER THAT ONE. YES. THAT ONE SEEMS TO ME THE BIG ONE. IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHO'S ELIGIBLE FOR RETIREMENT MM-HMM. . AND YOU DON'T, YOU GOTTA GET SOMEBODY IN HERE TO START WORKING ON THE, AND AND I AND I AGREE TOO. CUT THIS OUT. YOU COULD CUT THIS OUT AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS IF THEY RETIRE, AND THEN JUST MAKE THEM THE THAT'S WHAT I SAW. I THOUGHT SOMEBODY KINDA LIKE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN SOMEBODY'S GONNA RETIRE AND SHADOW 'EM FOR A YEAR OR TWO. AND YOU KNOW THAT, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT [05:40:01] CAN BE LOOKED AT TOO. THE FUNDING TO ONE OF THE OTHER NEEDS. TIER STREET FOREMAN. YEP. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE AT THE SEWER PLANT DAILY? UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE THERE. THERE'S FOUR POSITIONS THERE, BUT WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE THERE CURRENTLY. WE HAVE AN OPEN POSITION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING TO FILL NOW, BUT YES. FOUR. IT WOULD BE THE TOTAL THAT'S THERE, INCLUDING THE CHIEF OPERATOR. WOULD THE ASSISTANT CHIEF LIKELY BE HIRED WITHIN? YES. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LOOK AT FIRST. OF COURSE, IT'S A HIRE WITHIN, BUT YOU BACK FILL THAT POSITION. YES. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SO ALSO LOOK AT IT TOO THAT WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING LIKE A OPERATOR TO MOVING HIM UP TO THAT ASSISTANT, ASSISTANT, UH, CHIEF POSITION, YOU KNOW, AND IT, I GUESS REALLY WHAT, WHAT I SHOULD HAVE REFLECTED THIS AS IS MORE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PACE. BECAUSE AGAIN, IT, I'M NOT, IT WOULDN'T BE A COMPLETE NEW EMPLOYEE. IT WOULD JUST BE A NEW POSITION. RIGHT. IS YOU HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THERE, THERE'S STILL GONNA BE FOUR PEOPLE THERE. YEP. IT'S JUST ONE OF 'EM IS IN A, IN A BIGGER ROLE. I MEAN, I, I DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT. I I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THERE'S ANYONE WITHIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, HOW LONG SOME OF OF THE EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN THERE, THEY'RE GONNA, THERE'S GONNA BE AN EXODUS IN PRETTY QUICKLY, PRETTY QUICKLY, SUCCESSION. YEP. BUT YOU DO HAVE AN OPEN SPOT NOW, CORRECT? CORRECT. YOU STILL BRING SOMEBODY IN AT THE ASSISTANT CHIEF? UH, YES. IF THE POSITION WAS AVAILABLE, YES. BUT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE AN OPERATOR POSITION OUT THERE. SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, I MEAN, WE'RE HIRING SOMEONE IN AS A MAINTENANCE TECH TO GO WORK OUT THERE BECAUSE THE POSITION DOESN'T EXIST. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA, BETWEEN THE ASSISTANT CHIEF, UH, MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE OPERATOR. I THINK IF YOU HIRE ASSISTANT CHIEF INSTEAD OF AN OPERATOR, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? UH, 20, I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE 2020 $1,000. 'CAUSE I BELIEVE A MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN. 21. YEAH. SOLD. COULD, COULD YOU GUYS, UH, I'LL TAKE IT. CLARIFY. COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT COMMENT YOU MADE JUST A MINUTE AGO? YOU SAID EXODUS AND WHAT I I'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. BEEN THERE LIKELY. THEY MAY BE. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT JUAN WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR, AND YOU SAID THAT YOU SAID NOT BRINGING SOMEBODY ELSE IN BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY TO FIT THAT SPOT. IT WOULD BE AN OUTSIDE DEAL. I WAS JUST TRYING, I I MISSED THAT CONVERSATION AGAIN. UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU OFFLINE, BUT I DON'T, BASED ON CERTIFICATIONS AND SOME OF THOSE AND, AND LENGTHEN WHATEVER, YOU PROBABLY DON'T RIGHT NOW, HAVE PEOPLE THAT COULD WALK INTO THAT JOB. YES. UNDERSTOOD. AT THE LEVEL THAT IT'S BEING OPERATED AT. GOTCHA. AND I JUST, I JUST SAY HIRE FROM WITHIN. 'CAUSE ME AS A, AS A, AS A MANAGER, THAT'S WHAT I DO. I ALWAYS LOOK WITHIN FIRST. IF THERE'S NOBODY THERE, THEN OF COURSE ASSIST THE, AS THE ASSISTANT WATER, UH, ASSISTANT WATER OPERATOR IN FROM WITHIN THE GROUP. MM-HMM. . IF WE COULD, 'CAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT SAYING ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE WITHOUT, WITHOUT PEOPLE ACTIVELY SEEING THAT THERE'S A PROMOTION THERE, THERE'S PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITY. EXACTLY. THEN YOU'VE GOT 'EM, RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT A BIG PROBLEM THEN, RIGHT? YES. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHY WE CREATED THE ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR THAT SAME PURPOSE, THAT, YOU KNOW, HIRING SOMEONE, THEY THEN COULD STEP INTO THAT ROLE, UM, WHEN THAT PERSON RETIRED. BUT I, I WOULD PROPOSE CHANGING THAT TO THE NEEDS BEING 21,000. YOU CHANGE, WE CHANGE THE POSITION TO THE ASSISTANT CHIEF, AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO HIRE FOR AND NOT HIRE FOR THE OPERATOR. OKAY. AND ONCE YOU HAVE THE ASSISTANT CHIEF, IF, IF THAT BECOMES A SUCCESSION FOR THE, THE CHIEF AT THE PLANT, THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT DOWNGRADING IT BACK OR YOU CONVERT OVER YOUR STREET MAINTENANCE OR, YES. I MEAN, SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER NEED, ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT LONG TERM PERSON THERE. WELL, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW, I DON'T, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS. I KNOW IN, IN MY PRIVATE ORGANIZATION WE DO, WE ARE REALLY IN TUNE WITH WHO'S RETIRING AND WHEN, AND GENERALLY WE'RE FORECASTING THIS OUT WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE, SOMETIMES 36 MONTHS OR MORE IN ADVANCE. SO WE'RE FILLING THOSE SPOTS AND HAVING FOUR EMPLOYEES IN SEQUENCE INSTEAD OF THREE MOVE NOT REHIRE. MM-HMM. AND KEEP ON ROLLING. OKAY. AND I, I SEE THAT BEING A SIMILAR PROCESS WITH THIS. OKAY. UM, AND THE, UM, AGAIN, AN ANNUAL SLEDGE REMOVAL, UM, THAT'S AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DIGESTERS, WE HAVE VARIATION BASINS. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED. AGAIN, NOT ALL OF 'EM NEED TO BE CLEANED EVERY YEAR. UM, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED TO START SOME TYPE OF ROTATION AT SOME POINT OF CLEANING ONE OF 'EM OUT ANNUALLY AND JUST KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND, UH, THE LAST, THE LAST SEASON PACKAGE IS A DIRECT ROADWAY TO THE BACK OF THE PLANT. UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. I BELIEVE EVERYONE'S, UH, AT LEAST HEARD THE DISCUSSION. UH, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS TO CREATE THAT DIRECT ROADWAY THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE BACK OF THE PLANT. SO NOBODY HAS TO TRAVEL THROUGH THE WASTEWATER PLANT AGAIN. YOU KNOW, IT'S [05:45:01] SECURITY ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S BEST TO KEEP PEOPLE OUTTA THERE THAT HAVE NO BUSINESS IN THERE. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE BACK, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO GO TO THE PLANT. SO IT SERVES THAT PURPOSE SECURITY AND TAKES ALL THOSE KIND OF RISK OUT OF IT. BUT ALSO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, I KNOW IT WAS TOUCHED ON BEFORE, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WELCH PARK IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS LIKE A DEBRIS MANAGEMENT SITE, AND IT GOT BROUGHT UP, WELL, WHAT IF WE USE THE BACK OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN AS DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, WHICH, GREAT IDEA. BUT WITHOUT THIS ROADWAY, IT'S NOT GONNA WORK BECAUSE HAVING EVERYONE WOULD'VE TO DRIVE THROUGH THE PLANT TO GET BACK THERE. UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER POINT TO THAT. HAVING THAT ROADWAY DIRECTLY TO THE BACK. WELL, IT PROVIDES ACCESS TO 75 ACRES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO ACCESS TO OR LIMITED ACCESS. MM-HMM. . AND, AND THESE RIGHT HERE, THESE, YOU HAD AN ORDER, UH, PRIOR PRIORITY ORDER? I, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THE ORDER. UH, I KIND OF WOULD TOO. I, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE WITH CAPACITY ISSUES WE'VE HAD IN THE, THE AGE OF THE PLANT THAT ANYTHING THAT IS MAINTENANCE RELATED TO THAT FACILITY NEEDS TO TAKE TOP PRIORITY, UH, WITH OPERATIONS. UH, AND OR ANY KINDA OPERATIONAL EQUIPMENT COMING, UH, BEHIND THAT. SO I WOULD SAY THE SLUDGE INFRASTRUCTURE FOLLOWED BY OPERATIONS TRANSFER SWITCH. AND, UH, WELL, SO ANOTHER OPTION ON THE AUTOMATED TRANSFER SWITCHES. SO REMEMBER WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WITH SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC, WITH THE, THE MEMBRANES AND THE BLOWERS THAT THEY'RE ENGINEERING RIGHT NOW. SO NEXT YEAR WHEN IT'S $6 MILLION, MAYBE IT'S $6 MILLION AND 220,000 THAT WE GO AFTER AND DO THE AUTOMATED TRANSFER SWITCH WITH THAT. BUT MAYBE THIS YEAR IT'S LEDGE REMOVAL AND THE 21,000 OR WHATEVER TO UPGRADE THE POSITION TO SEE IF WE CAN GET AN ASSISTANT CHIEF WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATIONS. THE ROAD, AGAIN, WE'RE PURSUING, YOU KNOW, JOHN PETERSON WILL BRIEF Y'ALL, BUT WE'RE PURSUING A, UH, YOU KNOW, FUNDING, FEMA FUNDING FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FOR THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT PIECE. UM, SO THERE MAY BE AN AVENUE WHERE WE GET THAT FUNDED THROUGH THAT, OR MAYBE WE FUND IT THROUGH A ROAD BOND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST MY THOUGHTS. OKAY. UM, SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THESE? OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL OF IT. UH, GOING THROUGH, GOING THROUGH EACH DEPARTMENT. UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING AT ALL TO GO OVER OR ANYTHING Y'ALL WANNA SEE CHANGED OR O OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED BUT, UM, CHANGED OR LOOKED AT? OH, NO. I DO WORRY ABOUT HOW THE EXPENDITURES ARE OUTPACING THE REVENUE. THAT'S A CONCERN AFTER THURSDAY'S LUNCHEON. YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M REALLY LOOKING AT THAT. UH, REAL QUICK, WHAT IS YOUR FUND BALANCE AND THE WATER FUND? WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW. IT WAS 3 MILLION SOMETHING. I THOUGHT MY COMPUTER DIED. I DON'T THINK THE, I DON'T THINK THE EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN OUTPACING. I THINK THEY'VE BEEN OUTPACING. IT'S JUST THE MONEY WASN'T BEING SPENT. THIS IS, THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM. WE'RE JUST STARTING TO SPEND THE MONEY MORE AND MORE ON, ON THESE REPAIRS. OH, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. IT, IT JUST, THE MONEY JUST WASN'T BEING ALLOCATED. I MEAN, LOOK WHAT WE HAD TO DO, AND THIS IS BEFORE YOUR TIME, BUT WE HAD TO SPEND A LOT OF ARA FUNDS TO CLEAN OUT THOSE BASINS TO GET 'EM MM-HMM. BACK TO NORMAL. AND SO WHAT HECTOR'S PER PRESENTING IS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. YES. AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO GET TO THAT LEVEL, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE TRYING TO BE PREEMPTIVE AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO INCORPORATE INTO BUDGET. AS TIME GOES ON, WE'LL SEE MORE AND MORE OF IT. YOU KNOW, WE JUST GOTTA HAVE A STARTING POINT. THE PICTURE WE WERE JUST PRESENTED WITH THE, UH, THE FLOODING INSIDE THE PLANT WAS THAT PURE RAIN WATER THAT CAME PURE RAIN WATER. SO THE, UH, THE STORMWATER PUMP STATION THERE, UH, HAD SOME ISSUES. IT, IT'S, UM, IT NEEDS A LOT OF ELECTRICAL WORK DONE AND THOSE PUMPS NEED TO BE REPLACED. IT REALLY JUST FULL GUT JOB. RIGHT. UM, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACTIVELY PUSH THROUGH SOME MITIGATION GRANTS THAT ESPECIALLY WE HAVE MORE MITIGATION FUNDS COMING DUE TO THE STORM AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE A STORM AND NOW MITIGATION, MITIGATION COMES IN. SO THAT'S A PROJECT WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH TOWARDS ALL THOSE MITIGATION GRANTS. I BELIEVE THE COST WAS APPROXIMATELY 200 AND 230 OR $250,000 TO FIX ALL THAT, TO JUST GET IT BACK UP AND GOING. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS, NUMBER ONE, I THINK THE PUMPS, I THINK THE PUMPS NEED TO BE SIZED BIGGER. [05:50:01] NOW. THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST AN OPINION BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN. I HAVEN'T DONE CALCULATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I DO, I DO THINK THAT THE PUMPS NEED TO BE INCREASED IN SIZE, BUT ALSO THE, UH, THE BREAKER AND THE POWER COMING FROM IT. YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO ONE, RUN, ONE PUMP AT A TIME. MM-HMM. IS WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE. AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT, IT'S THE WIRE NOT BEING STRONG ENOUGH AND IT'S, IT'S TRIGGERING THE BREAKER. IF IT'S THE BREAKER ITSELF, THAT'S NOT STRONG. 'CAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BREAKER VERSUS THE PUMPS, IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD BE, THE BREAKER SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE MORE BOTH OF THOSE PUMPS. SO WE'RE THINKING IT'S AN UNDERGROUND WIRING ISSUE. THE CONDUIT THAT GOES FROM THERE ALL THE WAY OUT THERE, THESE ARE PUMPS THAT JUST TAKE CARE OF THE STORM WATER THAT FALLS INSIDE THE YES. YES. BECAUSE IT'S A BIG BOWL NOW. RIGHT. WITH THE LEVY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT IT DOES. IT COLLECTS IT ALL TO THAT, TO THAT PUMP STATION. AND IT'S JUST TWO PUMPS SIMILAR TO A LIFT STATION AND PUMPS IT OUT BEYOND THE LEVEE, OUTSIDE THE LEVEE. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. WHAT HAPPENED IS THE PUMP THAT WAS RUNNING AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE SECOND ONE TRIED TO COME ON, TRIPPED IT, AND THEY COULDN'T GET OUT THERE BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STORM WINDS BLOWING A HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR. THEY COULDN'T GET BACK OUT THERE TO RESET IT. SO BY THE TIME THE WINDS DIED DOWN AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE, THAT'S WHAT THEY FOUND WAS THAT THE PLACE WAS FLOODED AND WATER WAS POURING DOWN INTO THAT DRY PIT. ONE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, IN THE ACTUALS THAT YOU HAVE SO FAR AND WHAT YOU'RE ESTIMATING, HOW MUCH OF THAT IS RELATING TO THE STORM? ANY OF IT? NONE OF IT. NONE OF IT? NO. NOT, NOT IN THIS ANYWAY. BUT WE DID, WE DID SEND ALL OUR, LIKE THE, THE COST THAT PHIL WENT OVER. THOSE ARE ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE FOUND. NOW, NOW I WILL TELL YOU, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE FIXING BECAUSE JUST WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY FIXING THEM. NOW IT'S LIKE ALL THE FENCING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 'CAUSE IT'S TCQ REQUIREMENT. WE HAVE THAT FENCING UP AND IT'S DOESN'T HAVE INSURANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE GETTING 'EM FIXED. OKAY. WE'LL FILL YOUR, ARE ARE WE STILL BUDGETING A, A SHORTFALL IN THIS ACCOUNT OR BETWEEN ALL THESE ACCOUNTS? DOES THAT SHOW 326,000 OVERSPEND IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. SO WE DIDN'T EVEN MEET, WE DID NOT EVEN MEETING THE REVENUE WE'RE OVERSPENDING. AND THAT'S WITHOUT THE PACKAGES. 3 26? YES. 'CAUSE YOUR REVENUE'S ONLY 12 MILLION, ALMOST 12.1 MILLION. MM-HMM. THEN YOUR EXPENSES ARE 12.1 MILLION. 12 POINT 11 1 11. SO IT'S $29,000 SHORTFALL. OKAY. WHAT MAKES UP THAT NUMBER FOR YOU? BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE WATER FUND. I THINK PHIL'S LOOKING AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN YOU ARE. 'CAUSE I THINK YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS BOOK CORRECT. AND ADDING THEM ALL UP. I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE WATER FUND, THE NUMBERS FROM THAT BOOK. OKAY. YEAH. SEE THAT'S, I THINK PHIL'S GOT A DIFFERENT TOTAL. PROBABLY THE WATER FUND OR UTILITY COLLECTION, SORRY, OF 1.139, UH, MILLION. ALL RIGHT. THEN I'VE GOT THE 6.885 OR 6 MILLION FOR THE WATER COLLECTION. OKAY. SEWER HAS 2.818 AND THEN PLANT OPERATIONS HAS 1.564 OFFSETTING ALL THOSE TOGETHER. A SHORTFALL OF 326,000. I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET BACK TO IN THAT MANNER. OKAY. BECAUSE THE SUMMARY I'VE GOT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE REPORT I GAVE YOU. SO I GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT I DID, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE. OKAY. I'LL GET BACK YOU ON IT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU'ALL. THANK YOU. THANKS . THANKS . YEP, NO PROBLEM. COME ON UP, . [05:55:19] ALRIGHT, WELL GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LLOYD AYERS. I'M THE CHIEF OF EMS FOR ANGLETON AREA EMERGENCY MEDICAL CORPS. UH, MOST OF Y'ALL KNOW WHO I AM OR KNOW, HEARD OF ME AT LEAST I'M SURE IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. UH, I RECENTLY TOOK OVER FROM CHIEF LUCILLE MAYS, WHO WAS CHIEF ABOUT THE TIME I WAS GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL, . UM, SO THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. SAME. YEAH. UH, SHE'S BEEN AROUND FOR A VERY LONG TIME. SHE HAD DEFINITELY A LEGEND IN THIS INDUSTRY. AND, UM, AS SOMEBODY'S PUT IT SO ELOQUENTLY, I HAD SOME BIG SHOES TO FOLLOW, NOT FILL, UH, WHICH I LIKED A LOT BETTER BECAUSE NOBODY COULD EVER FILL HER SHOES. ANY WHO. WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, I AM NEW, BUT I DO KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HOPEFULLY. SO HERE WE GO. UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US OF, IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANGLETON AREA EMERGENCY MEDICAL. WE'VE BEEN PROUDLY SERVING ANGLETON AND SURROUNDING AREAS SINCE 1980. UM, WE ARE A REGISTERED, UH, 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT. SO BEING WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE A, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS. OUR OPERATIONAL LEADERSHIP CONSISTS OF MYSELF AS THE CHIEF AND, UH, WE DO HAVE FOUR LIEUTENANTS, UH, THREE SHIFT LIEUTENANTS AND ONE, UH, PART-TIME LIEUTENANT. ALL OF WHICH WITH THEY ALL HOLD A, UH, VERY UNIQUE SKILL SET. I HAVE ONE THAT IS MY IT GUY. HE IS, UH, KNOWS MAPS, GIS, ALL THAT STUFF. I KNOW HE IS WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH JASON A LOT OF TIMES WHENEVER WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THINGS GOING BETWEEN US AND DISPATCH AND PD. UM, I HAVE ONE THAT IS, UH, TWO OF TWO OF THEM, THE PART-TIME AND ONE OF MY FULL-TIME SHIFT LIEUTENANTS. UH, VERY GOOD WITH TRAINING AND EDUCATION. SO I HAVE THOSE TWO ASPECTS THERE. AND THEN, UM, MY, UH, OTHER SHIFT LIEUTENANT WHO KNOWS LOGISTICS AND SUPPLIES INSIDE AND OUT. I JUST, HE TELLS ME WHAT HE NEEDS AND I JUST, OKAY, IF YOU SAY I NEED IT, I DO. I TRUST HIM TO THAT LEVEL. UM, AND ALSO AS FAR AS OPERATIONALLY SPEAKING, UM, HE KNOWS THE BUSINESS, UM, ABOUT AS WELL AS I DO PROBABLY. UM, OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS CONSISTS OF A, A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE. NEXT SLIDE, UH, FROM THE, OR NOT LARGE, BUT A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY. A LOT OF NAMES ON THERE YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE. UM, WITH OUR CHAIR BEING, UM, DA, UH, MR. TOM SELLECK. UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, BANK MANAGERS, UH, CFO OF UTMB HOSPITALS ON THERE. UH, UH, DR. RON SLATE. UH, HE'S A PODIATRIST HERE IN TOWN, SO HE MAY HAVE SEEN HIS BUSINESS DOWN ON THE OTHER END OF TOWN. UH, COMMISSIONER AND A, UM, CONSTABLE AS WELL. SO WE HAVE A GOOD ARRAY OF, OF PEOPLE GUIDING ME, MYSELF, AND LUCILLE OVER THE PAST YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING THE BEST DECISIONS FOR THIS ORGANIZATION AS POSSIBLE. BUT THE REAL HEROES OF THIS ORGANIZATION ARE DEFINITELY OUR CREW MEMBERS. WE HAVE 15 FULL-TIME CREW MEMBERS, UM, EIGHT PART-TIMERS, UH, 23 VOLUNTEERS AND THREE OFFICE STAFF. AND I'D CONSIDER MYSELF ONE OF THE OFFICE STAFF. THEN WE HAVE BARBARA MEADOWS, OUR OFFICE MANAGER, AND LUCILLE IS STILL ON THE BACKGROUND. MM-HMM. , UH, WORKING FROM HOME NOW. BUT SHE IS, I CONSIDER HER OFFICE STAFF AS WELL. SHE, SHE'S MAKING SURE THAT I'M STAYING ON THAT STRAIGHT AND NARROW AND REMINDING ME OF THINGS FROM TIME TO TIME. AND IF I DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I HAVE SOMEONE TO FALL BACK ON, WHICH HAS BEEN AN AMAZING, A, UH, ASSET TO ME. UM, OUR AVERAGE LENGTH OF SERVICE IS 11 YEARS. I THINK LAST YEAR, WHENEVER I WAS EDITING THESE SLIDES, SHE HAD 12. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, UH, WE HAD LOST, OR LAST YEAR OR YEAR BEFORE SOMEWHERE IN THERE, WE HAD LOST TWO OF OUR, UH, LONG-TERM MEMBERS DUE TO AGE AND INJURY. UM, BUT WE, OUR FULL-TIME STAFF WORK, WHAT WE CALL IT, FORTY EIGHT NINETY SIX. THIS IS A ONE, ONE OF THE MANY, UH, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MAIN STANDARDS OF SCHEDULING FOR EMS AND FIRE. 48 96 IS THIS ONE, WHICH MEANS THEY WORK 48 HOURS ON WITH 96 HOURS ON, OR TWO DAYS ON AND FOUR DAYS OFF. AND YES, THEY'RE ON FOR 48 HOURS. THEY'RE PAID THE ENTIRE TIME. UH, THEY DO, UH, WHEN THEY HAVE DOWNTIME IN BETWEEN RUNS, THEY DO, THEY ARE ABLE TO GET SOME SLEEP IN. UM, ON AVERAGE, OUR BUSIEST TIMES ARE DURING THE DAY. SO AT NIGHTTIME, I KNOW, UH, JUST IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WHENEVER I WAS ON SHIFT, I COULD GET AT LEAST A GOOD SOLID TWO HOUR NAP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. SO WE LEARN TO RUN ON THAT. AND, AND RED BULLS, UM, OUR, UH, PART-TIME AND VOLUNTEERS, THEY TYPICALLY WORK 12 TO 24 HOUR SHIFTS AT A TIME. UH, WE DO HAVE SOME THAT DO A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, BUT THAT'S THE PRETTY MUCH THE AVERAGE THERE. SO OPERATIONALLY SPEAKING, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET A CALL, IT COULD COME FROM MANY DIFFERENT PLACES. ALL OF OUR CALLS ARE DISPATCHED THROUGH THE ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE COVER THE CITY OF ANGLETON, UH, BAILEYS PRAIRIE HOLIDAY LAKES, UH, VILLAGE OF BONNIE BRO, SHARON, ALL THOSE SURROUNDING AREAS EVERYWHERE IN, IN, UM, [06:00:01] UH, BRA COUNTY AROUND US. IT'S ABOUT 258 SQUARE MILES, RIGHT THERE IS WHAT IT SAYS. UM, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST IN ANGLETON, BUT AS PRIMARILY WHERE ALL OF OUR UH, UH, CALL VOLUME ACTUALLY OCCURS. IT'S, IT'S MORE ALMOST 60%. IT'S ABOUT 60% WITHIN THE CITY AND 40% IN ALL THE OUTLYING AREAS. UM, DAILY WE STAFF 3M ICU AMBULANCES, MICU STANDS FOR MOBILE INTENSIVE CARE UNIT. IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE CONSIDERED A MOBILE INTENSIVE CARE UNIT, IT NOT ONLY HAS TO BE EQUIPPED WITH THE PROPER EQUIPMENT, BUT ALSO WITH THE CROP PROPER PERSONNEL AND THAT PERSONNEL BEING AT LEAST ONE, UH, STATE CERTIFIED PARAMEDIC. UH, SO ALL OF OUR TRUCKS ARE SCHEDULED WITH AT LEAST ONE PARAMEDIC ON THAT SHIFT OR ON THAT, UH, UNIT SO THAT EVERY TRUCK THAT ROLLS OUT IS SCHEDULED AS A, UM, MICU UNIT. 'CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, SLIPPED OUTTA BED AND JUST NEEDS HELP BACK INTO BED OR, UH, SLIPPED OUTTA BED AND WENT INTO FULL CARDIAC ARREST. AND YOU NEED EVERY INTERVENTION POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY AND SAVE A LIFE. UM, THIS HAS ACTUALLY SURPASSES MANY OF THE, UH, 9 1 1 AGENCIES WITHIN OUR, UM, COUNTY. EVEN. UH, THERE'S SOME AGENCIES THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS WHEN WE CALL ON, NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME, BUT MAYBE BECAUSE WHAT THEY COME WITH WON'T BE THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT WE TYPICALLY PROVIDE. UM, WE TRY TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE. AND NOW I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE IN A MINUTE AS WELL. AND, UH, EACH SHIFT HAS ONE SHIFT LIEUTENANT. UM, ON, ON OCCASION THEY MAY TAKE A VACATION AND WE GET JUST THE MOST SENIOR MEDIC ON TO KIND OF HOLD THAT POSITION TEMPORARILY FOR THE DAY. UH, WE DO HAVE A, A SUPERVISOR PHONE THAT, THAT THE LIEUTENANT HOLDS ONTO. AND SO THEY GET IT PASSED TO WHOEVER. UM, WE CAN STAFF UP TO, UH, SIX AMBULANCES AT ANY GIVEN TIME. UH, MEANING THAT WE NOT ONLY HAVE THE PERSONNEL, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO STAFF 'EM. SOME AGENCIES MIGHT SAY, OH, WE HAVE, UH, SIX, THEY I SEE YOU CAPABLE AMBULANCES. WELL, THAT'S ONLY IF YOU MOVE THE EQUIPMENT FROM THIS AMBULANCE TO THAT AMBULANCE. ALL OF OUR AMBULANCES ARE FULLY EQUIPPED, FULLY STOCKED AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WHICH ALSO HELPS TOO, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, ONE OF OUR AMBULANCES BREAKS DOWN, WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT, WE CAN JUST MOVE A CREW OVER AND THEN, UH, DO WHAT THAT OTHER, THAT BROKEN DOWN TRUCK, WHICH IT DOES HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME. AND, UM, DAILY, IT'S, IT'S A MIX BETWEEN, UH, FULL-TIME, PART-TIME VOLUNTEERS. IT OF COURSE, THERE'S USUALLY ALMOST ALWAYS SOME FULL-TIMERS ON, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO PART-TIMERS OR, OR A VOLUNTEER. SO OUR MAIN GOAL IS SAVING LIVES WHEN WE GO OUT. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE SAVE, WE, THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO SAVE LIVES AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. UM, LIKE I SAID, WE DO THE PARAMEDIC SCHEDULED ON ALL UNITS AT ALL TIMES. THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT NO MATTER WHEN IT IS OR WHERE IT IS, THAT WE CAN GET AN AMBULANCE TO YOU WITH THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF CARE POSSIBLE. UM, OUR MEDICAL PROTOCOLS IS THE RULES, BASICALLY ON HOW TO TREAT, UH, UH, MEDICALLY. AND WE'VE SPENT THE LAST, I DON'T REMEMBER, A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, UH, GOING THROUGH A COMPLETE OVERHAUL WITH A WHOLE NEW UPGRADE ON 'EM. AND, UH, WE ARE REALLY PLEASED WITH THE NEW, UH, UPDATES THAT WE'VE GOT ON 'EM. UH, DR. ADAM CORLEY IS OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR. UH, WE DO CARRY LOTS OF STATE-OF-THE-ART EQUIPMENT SUCH AS THE LUCAS THREE, WHICH IS A CPR COMPRESSION DEVICE, UH, SEEN IN THE PICTURE THERE ON THE CHEST. THAT IS BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE FOUND OVER THE YEARS IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE DOING CPR, THEY ARE NOT, THEY'RE GONNA TIRE AND THEY WILL START DOING LESS OF A COMPRESSION, WHICH DIMINISHES A CHANCE OF SURVIVAL. THE MACHINE NEVER TIRES, SO THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP GOING. UH, LIFE PACK 15 CARDIAC MONITORS, WHICH UP UNTIL ONE MONTH AGO WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH THE NEW LIFE PACK, 35 WAS THE MOST UP TO DATE, UH, CARDIAC MONITOR OUT THERE. UH, STRYKER POWER LOAD STRETCHERS, OUR STRETCHERS ARE, UH, HYDRAULIC. SO NOT ONLY DO THE HYDRAULICS ON THE STRETCHER BRING IT UP AND DOWN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE HYDRAULIC LIFTS THAT RAISE IT AND PUT IT INTO THE BACK OF THE AMBULANCE, WHICH HAS DRASTICALLY SAVED BACKS. UM, IN YEARS PAST. I KNOW WHEN I FIRST STARTED IT WAS PICKING UP THE ENTIRE STRETCHER AND PUTTING IT IN THE TRUCK. SO THIS HAS DEFINITELY ADDED YEARS OF SERVICE TO OUR, OUR STAFF, WHILE SAVING, UH, MONEY ON, UM, UH, WORKERS' COMP, UH, INJURIES AND CLAIMS, UH, FOR BACK INJURIES, UH, PORTABLE VENTILATORS ALONG WITH PUMPING CHEST, ALSO BREATHING FOR SOMEBODY WITH A, WHAT WE CALL A, A BAG, AS YOU KIND OF SEE PART OF IT UP IN THE PICTURE. WE, WE CARRY PORTABLE, PORTABLE VENTILATORS ON ALL OF OUR UNITS THAT BREATHE PROPERLY WITH THE SAME DEPTH EVERY TIME. MORE UNIFORM, BETTER OXYGEN. IT'S, IT'S THE NEW, UH, STANDARD OF CARE. DEFINITELY. AND THEN OUR COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCHER, AS WE CALL IT, CAD, THAT IS, ALLOWS US TO SEE ON A MAP. SO WHENEVER THEY DISPATCH US IN YEARS PAST, IT WAS JUST A BEEP AND A VOICE OVER A PAGER AND FLIPPING THROUGH A MAP BOOK AND TRYING TO FIND THE WAY WITH THE TIMES WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADVANCE WITH THAT. [06:05:01] AND, UM, AND ALONG WITH WORKING WITH THE PD, BEEN ABLE TO GET US, UH, SOME NOTES ON THERE. AND THEN ALSO THE, THE GEOGRAPHIC NOTIFICATION SO THAT WHENEVER WE GET IN ROUTE, WE CAN JUST HIT A BUTTON AND IT'LL MAP IT FOR US. AND OF COURSE, MY PHONE WENT OFF. SO JUST AN OVERVIEW. SO YOU CAN SEE FROM 2001, UH, 21, EXCUSE ME, TO TWO 2023, WE HAD A DIFFERENCE IN CALL VOLUME OF, UH, ALMOST 400 CALLS. UM, WE DID 6,000 TOTAL UNIT RESPONSES IN 23. UH, WE ASSIST FIRE DEPARTMENT ON PRETTY MUCH EVERY CALL THAT THEY GO ON. UM, THERE ARE SOME EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE MIGHT NOT. FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE HELL STORM BACK IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, I THINK IN ONE IN GIVEN TIME THEY HAD 30 SOMETHING CALLS HOLDING, TRYING FOR POWER LINES, SPARKING TREES DOWN OF THAT NATURE. AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER. AND NEITHER DID THEY TO COVER ALL OF THOSE CALLS AT ONCE. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, LIKE THE HURRICANE AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID THE BIGGER THINGS, BUT ANY, WHEN THEY WERE DOING THEIR MAINTENANCE JUST RUNNING AROUND, UM, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T COME OUT WITH THEM ON THAT. AND OF COURSE, WE WERE ALWAYS AVAILABLE IF THEY NEED US AT ANY GIVEN TIME BECAUSE WE DO LOVE OUR FIRE GUYS, LET ME TELL YOU. 'CAUSE THEY'RE HANDY TO US AS WELL. UM, A MAJORITY OF OUR PATIENTS, AS YOU CAN SEE, ARE TRANSPORTED LOCALLY HERE TO UTMB IN ANGLETON. UM, ANOTHER, UH, SECTION OF 'EM GO TO BRAZOSPORT. AND SOMETIMES IT'S GEOGRAPHICAL, SOMETIMES IT'S, UH, PATIENT CHOICE. UM, OTHER TRANSPORTS OUT OF AREA USUALLY IS, IS BASED ON, UH, RESOURCES. IF WE DON'T, NOT ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT NEED IS HAVING A HEART ATTACK AND WE CAN GO TO PEARLAND BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE CATH LAB, BUT AVAILABLE FOR 'EM THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT 'EM ON A HELICOPTER, INCUR THAT COST. WE CAN KIND OF REDUCE SOME OF THAT COST BY JUST TAKING 'EM IN THE TRUCK, GETTING 'EM TO THE APPROPRIATE FACILITY WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA STEPS THERE. UM, UNFORTUNATELY IN OUR BUSINESS, WE DO GET A LOT OF CALLS WHERE PEOPLE JUST CALL US TO GET CHECKED OUT. UM, AND THEY DON'T EVER HAVE ANY INTENTION OF GOING. OR SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET CALL, WE GET CALLS FOR PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T CALL US AND WRECKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THOSE CALLS A LITTLE, A LITTLE OVER 1100 LAST YEAR. UM, LIFT ASSIST OR THOSE WHERE WE JUST HAVE TO GO AND PICK SOMEBODY UP. THERE IS NO INJURY, BUT THEY FELL, THEY SLID OUT THEIR CHAIR. UM, AND THEN FLOWN BY MEDICAL, UH, AIR MEDICAL IS, IS UP QUITE A BIT. I THINK SOME OF THAT IS POSSIBLY DUE TO THE, UM, JUST THE HIGHER ACUITY OF CALLS THAT WE ARE GETTING. PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICKER AND THEY'RE NEEDING THAT HIGHER ACUITY OF CARE, UM, WHICH WOULD BENEFIT US GREATLY FROM A BIGGER HOSPITAL LOCALLY. BUT, UM, IF WE CAN'T, WE GET 'EM ON THE RIGHT THERE AT THE AIRPORT NOW AS WELL. SO, ON DOWN TO, UH, FINANCIALS, A COUPLE OF DISCLAIMERS AND, UH, CAVEATS. SO DUE TO THE NATURE OF, UH, THE NATURE OF UH, EMS BILLING, WE DO OPERATE ON A, UH, CASH BUDGET. MEANING WE DON'T, WE DON'T FINANCE ANYTHING LARGE. OF COURSE, THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE MAINTENANCE FEES AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS THAT WE JUST HAVE TO DO OR, OR MONTHLY FEES OR DIFFERENT THINGS FOR, FOR SMALL STUFF. BUT AS FAR AS AMBULANCES AND BIG PURCHASES, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T RELY ON THAT TO, TO BE THERE ALL THE TIME. UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TELL WHAT CALLS WILL PAY IF THEY'LL PAY AND OR, AND OR HOW MUCH THEY'LL PAY. UM, SO A LOT OF TIMES, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS LUCILLE'S HELPING ME WITH RIGHT NOW IS MAKE STAYING ON THE BACKSIDE OF OUR BILLING AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE GETTING BILLED APPROPRIATELY. UM, SO THAT'S HAS BEEN ABLE TO, UH, KIND OF BEEN A LITTLE BIT A PLUS FOR ME THERE. SO OUR ANNUAL INCOME, LET'S SEE HERE FOR 23. AND IN ALL YEARS ACTUALLY, UH, THE BIG CHUNK OF THAT IS GONNA COME FROM THE FEE FOR SERVICE, WHICH IS GONNA BE OUR INSURANCE BILLING. UH, WE GOT 455,000 FROM ESD LAST YEAR, A LITTLE OVER 130,000 FROM THE WATER BILL DONATIONS, 96 FROM THE CITY, WHICH IS THE SAME FROM THE YEAR BEFORE. AND THEN IN JUST GENERAL CONTRIBUTIONS, WE GOT A LITTLE OVER $8,000. UM, LLOYD, REAL QUICK. YES, SIR. PHIL, WHERE IS THAT IN OUR BUDGET? I CAN'T FIND IT. THE WATER DONATION AND THEN THE CITY OF TON. WHERE ARE THOSE TWO LINES? IN OUR BUDGET? CITY OF TON GENERAL FIND UNDER DEPART. 5, 5 9. WHAT PAGE DO YOU KNOW? 5, 5 9. GIMME JUST A SECOND. I HOPE I'M NOT GOING TOO FAST. I KNOW I STAND BETWEEN YOU AND CHRIS WHO TALKS ABOUT PUPPIES AND KITTENS AND THAT'S MUCH CUTER. SO, HEY, SO QUESTION WHILE WE'RE LOOKING. SO WHEN WE INCREASED, WHEN Y'ALL ASKED TO INCREASE THE WATER DONATION, DID THAT CHANGE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTED OR THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. I DO NOT KNOW THAT ANSWER. UM, [06:10:01] THAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED. THE LAST INCREASE WAS DONE DURING LUCILLE'S TENURE, AND I DO NOT KNOW IT WAS DONE WHEN DURING LUCILLE'S TENURE. CHIEF MAYES? YEAH. WHEN WAS LAST YEAR, I THINK. OH, WAS IT? YEAH. I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS. I JUST KNOW THAT IT WAS FAIRLY RECENT AND I KNOW THAT THEY ADDED IT TO THE BUSINESSES AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL. AND I'VE BEEN PROMOTING THAT THE REVENUE. OKAY. SO I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING FROM THAT YET, THOUGH, I DON'T THINK. YEAH. WAS IT JUST LAST YEAR OR IT, I THOUGHT IT WAS, IT WAS LAST YEAR. I THINK. I THOUGHT IT WAS 2021. MAYBE. MAYBE NOT RIGHT OFF HAND. I'LL, I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. OKAY. GO AHEAD LLOYD. SORRY. OH, YOU'RE FINE. YOU'RE FINE. UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE SOME OF OUR EXPENSE HIGHLIGHTS. SO OUR TOTAL EXPENSE, UH, FOR 23, UH, WAS A LITTLE OVER 2.9 MILLION, UH, WITH THE MAJORITY OF THAT, UH, GOING TO PAYROLL. AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT TWO BIG SECTIONS OF THAT WOULD'VE BEEN INSURANCES FOR, UH, MEDICAL INSURANCE, UH, UM, WORKERS' COMP AND ALL THOSE OTHER INSURANCES THAT WE HAVE TO PAY. UM, OUR CAPITAL EXPENSE LAST YEAR WAS, UH, PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ABOUT ON TARGET. I KNOW WE HAD TO, WE HAVE TO HAVE RE AMBULANCES REMOUNTED ALMOST ANNUALLY AND OR AT LEAST EVERY OTHER YEAR. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET A YEAR WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO REMOUNT ONE, BUT WITH THE NUMBER OF AMBULANCES WE HAVE, THEY'RE GOING FOR ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS. UM, BUT BEFORE WE HAVE TO HAVE A NEW CHASSIS PUT UNDERNEATH THE BOX AND DOING THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE A, A LARGE CHUNK OF MONEY. UM, OUR LAST, UH, REMOUNT I BELIEVE WAS 160 AND I WOULD THINK A NEW BUILD AMBULANCE WOULD BE CLOSER TO 300,000. UM, MEDICAL SUPPLIES IS, IS, IS FOLLOWS RIGHT BEHIND THAT. UH, AND, AND THEN EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT YOU CAN SEE, UM, OUR BUDGETED, I, IT WENT A LITTLE, UH, GOT A LITTLE OVERZEALOUS I HOPE THIS YEAR IN, IN GOOD FAITH BECAUSE, UH, THERE WAS A BILL PASSED THAT INCREASED THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF PAYMENT FROM PRIVATE INSURANCES OVER MEDICARE RATES. SO WE'VE KIND OF PUT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER NUMBER ON THERE HOPING THAT WE COULD GET, UM, SOME MORE MONEY FROM INSURANCE BILLING ON THAT END OF IT. UM, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY ONLINE. UH, WITH THE BIGGEST, I THINK EXCEPTION WOULD PROBABLY BE TO THE TRAINING AND CEPE AREA, UH, FOR SEVERAL REASONS. UM, ONE WITH ME COMING IN AS A NEW CHIEF, I, UH, UM, PUT IN THERE EXTRA SO THAT IF I HAD TO GO TO ANY EXTRA CLASSES FOR ANY OF THE DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT I MIGHT NEED. AND ALSO JUST, WE USED TO HAVE A REALLY, WHAT I FEEL LIKE A, AN AMAZING TOP-NOTCH TRAINING DEPARTMENT WITH CLASSES PRESENTED. AND THEN, UM, THIS LITTLE THING HAPPENED IN 2020 AND PREVENTED PEOPLE FROM COMING OVER ANYMORE. UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE STILL IN THE RECOVERY SECTION FROM THAT. AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF GOOD PEOPLE NOW IN THE TRAINING DEPARTMENT THAT I FEEL LIKE, UH, WE, I WANNA TRY AND GET US BACK UP TO WHERE WE WERE, WE'RE HOSTING CLASSES, UM, AND, AND PREVENTING UH, PRESENTING INFORMATION TO OUR GUYS AND ANYONE ELSE LOCALLY TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVEN THE BEST CARE POSSIBLE TO, TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. UM, SO ON THIS NEXT PAGE, IT KIND OF SHOWS A, UH, AN EXACT KIND OF A FINAL FINANCIAL BREAKDOWN, UM, OF WHAT THE, THE TOTAL WAS TO THE WHAT, WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR COST WAS, UH, JUST WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF ANGLETON. SO AT, UH, 6,000 UNIT RESPONSES OF THOSE UNIT RESPONSES. UH, 3,501 WERE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF ANGLETON LAST YEAR. UH, TAKE OUT THE 509 FROM FIRE CALLS AND WE'RE AT, UH, 31 20. UH, SO OUR FEE FOR SERVICE FROM WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF ANGLETON, THAT'S HOW MUCH WE RECEIVED WAS 977. UM, OUR CITY, UH, ALLOTMENT OUR WATER BILL ALLOTMENT WITH A GRAND TOTAL OF 1.2. WE DO A LOT FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT LUCILLE'S BEEN DOING OVER THE YEARS AND SHE'S INFORMED ME OF, IS THAT WE KIND OF SET IT, WE DEDUCT THAT 50,000 AS A, A KIND OF A GOOD FAITH FOR SINCE, BECAUSE WE DO USE, UH, ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR OUR DISPATCH CENTER RIGHT NOW. UM, UH, WHICH IS A GIVES, BRINGS US UP TO A TOTAL OF 1.15. UM, AND IT, AND THEN OUR EXPENSES LESS THE BIG CAPITAL EXPENSES. IF YOU CAN KIND OF SEE 'EM DOWN IN THE BOTTOM LEFT, I DID REMOVE ALL OF THOSE FROM THE FIGURING. AND THEN THAT LEFT OF A DIFFERENCE OF 136,000, UM, THAT WAS KIND OF LEFT OVER AFTER THAT WAS [06:15:01] DONE. I PUSHED THE WRONG, THAT'S A DEFICIT TO YOUR BUSINESS OR TO CORRECT FROM WHAT WE WOULD'VE DONE. SO LOOKING FORWARD, UM, WE DO PLAN ON CONTINUING, OF COURSE WITH THE, OUR, OUR EXEMPLARY PATIENT CARE. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S TAKEN CARE OF. UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB WITH KEEPING OUR RESPONSE READINESS LESS THAN TWO MINUTES ACTUALLY HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD AT REMAINING LESS THAN ONE MINUTE, WHICH IS THE, UH, INDUSTRY STANDARD AT THIS TIME. THAT'S CRAZY. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS TO COME, I WOULD DO, LIKE I DO, DO PLAN ON PROMOTING OR HIRING A NEW DEPUTY CHIEF TO REPLACE MY OLD POSITION. I WOULD'VE EVENTUALLY LIKE TO ALSO HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR PEAK HOURS OF OPERATION WHEN THE CALL VOLUME EXCEEDS OUT OF NORMAL. BECAUSE WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW A LOT OF TIMES IS EVEN THREE AMBULANCES AND ISN'T ALWAYS ENOUGH BECAUSE WE, WE DON'T HAVE A HIGH CALL VOLUME CONSISTENTLY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S THAT TIME OF DAY THAT THE CALL VOLUME IS HIGHER AND IT DOES REQUIRE MORE UNITS. UM, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST ONE CALL REQUIRES TWO UNITS DUE TO THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS OR THE HI, UH, THE ACUITY OF THE PATIENT. UH, WE TRY TO ASSIST IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT'S IN A CARDIAC ARREST, INSTEAD OF MAKING TWO PEOPLE DO IT, WHICH CAN BE DONE, IT'S DEFINITELY MORE EFFICIENT WITH THREE OR FOUR. SO, WE'LL, WE MAY SEND ANOTHER UNIT OR SEND A SUPERVISOR OR EVEN MYSELF, I'VE JUMPED UP OUT OF THE OFFICE TO GO HELP RUN AND HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM, I'M NOT ABOVE THAT BY ANY MEANS. UM, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE INCENTIVIZE EMPLOYEES AND VOLUNTEERS. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, ONE OF THE EASIER WAYS IS, IS UM, MONETARILY BY, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING WITH RAISES. BUT WE ALSO LIKE TO DO A LOT OF OTHER, UM, UN UNCONVENTIONAL THINGS THAT, UH, MAKE PEOPLE ENJOY BEING EMPLOYEES WITH US. UM, TO CONTINUE BY FUNDING THESE RETENTION PROJECTS AND LONGEVITY BONUSES. IT'S A BIG HELP. UM, AND THEN, UH, THE NEW CE PROGRAM, LIKE I SAID, I WANNA GET THAT REVAMPED UP. THAT'S CONTINUING EDUCATION CE UH, THAT ALLOWS US TO KEEP GOING, UH, FORWARD WITH THE LATEST AND GREATEST INFORMATION AND WE'LL TRY AND LOOK FOR SOME GRANT FUNDING OR, OR SOME SORT OF FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL TRAINING AS WELL. UM, UH, WE DO NEED SOME SERIOUS REMODELING AND OR ADDITIONING TO OUR CURRENT FACILITY. OUR, UH, WHAT WE CALL OUR NEW STATION WAS OPENED IN 1998, SO IT'S LIKE 26, 25, 26 YEARS OLD. UM, WE STILL REFER TO IT AS THE NEW BUILDING BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE WAS OPENED IN 19 84 5. IT'S AFTER ALICIA HIT IN 1982 AND TOOK OUT OUR ORIGINAL 10 BARN THAT WE HAD WHERE LOOP 2 74 NOW SITS. UM, OF COURSE WE WILL, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER AMBULANCE SCHEDULED FOR REMOUNT NEXT YEAR. UH, WE DO WANNA BEGIN REPLACING EQUIPMENT THAT HAS REACHED OR EXCEED ITS LIFESPAN. I WILL TELL YOU THAT HALF OF OUR MONITORS AND HALF OF OUR STRETCHERS HAVE WAY FAR EXCEEDED THAT. UM, LIKE I SAID. AND THEN OF COURSE THE COST OF EVERYTHING IS TRADITIONALLY OF COURSE IS GONNA GO UP AND WITH THE NEWER MODELS IT GOES UP. I CAN TELL YOU I GOT A REALLY GOOD END OF YEAR CHRISTMAS SALE ON, ON, ON THE LIFE PACK MONITORS, THE CARDIAC MONITORS LAST YEAR. UH, TWO OF 'EM I GOT FOR ABOUT WITH TRADE IN I THINK WAS ALL FOR ABOUT 57 OR $58,000. ONE OF THE NEWER MODELS IS 63 TO START AND THAT'S NOT WITH TRADE IN, BUT STILL, I MEAN THAT'S WOW. ONE VERSUS TWO. AND THEY WERE GIVING EXTRA BONUSES ON THE TRADE-INS 'CAUSE IT WAS THE END OF YEAR AND I THINK THEY KNEW THAT THE NEW ONES WERE COMING OUT SO THEY WERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SELL ALL THOSE OLD ONES OFF. BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO, MOVING FORWARD, WE'D LIKE TO START KIND OF SLOWLY STARTING TO REPLACE THOSE AND AS, AS WELL OUR STRETCHERS AS WELL. UM, AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS, UH, UH, WE'LL BE KEEP BE KEEPING AN EYE OUT TO SEEK SOME ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING FOR OUR BUILDING AND OUR EQUIPMENT. ARE YOU GONNA BE IN THE, IS THERE A PLAN FOR THEM TO HAVE A AMBULANCE STATION AT THE NEW FIRE STATION? THAT'S, YEAH. SO THE TWO ACRES UP AT ASHLAND MM-HMM. , UH, WILL INCLUDE BOTH FIRE AND EMS. AND SO THE ES SO WE WILL ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ESD, UH, TO LEASE THE LAND FOR 99 YEARS OR SOMETHING. UH, ESD WILL BUILD THE STATION AND THEN I BELIEVE THEY'LL SUBLET OUT TO AMBULANCE FOLKS. AND, AND I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH, UH, CHIEF MORTON AS WELL ABOUT THAT AS WELL. SO WOULD YOU STILL NEED TO EXPAND YOUR CURRENT BUILDING IF THAT ONE OF THOSE AMBULANCES IS MOVING OVER THERE? IT COULD BE REDUCED, UH, TO THE TIME OF EXPANSION, YES, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDS A REMODEL AND UPDATING. 'CAUSE THE, UM, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM PROBABLY NEEDS A PRETTY SERIOUS UPDATE. UM, JUST, [06:20:01] YOU KNOW, FLOORS, PAINT KIND OF STUFF. BUT IF WE DID HAVE ANOTHER AMBULANCE STA UH, STATION SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT WOULD, WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE AS MUCH OF THE ADD-ON. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE SITTING OUTSIDE. UM, AND WE DO WANT TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST PUT A COVER OVER THAT SO IT'S NOT JUST BEING EXPOSED TO THE WEATHER AND THAT TRUCK CHANGES, YOU KNOW, ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH. SO IT'S NOT CONSISTENTLY SITTING THERE. AND WE DO TRY TO MITIGATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BY PUTTING IT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING SO THE WEST SUN DOESN'T BEAT ON IT AND WE PUT, YOU KNOW, THE SUN VISORS IN THERE TO KEEP THE SUN FROM DETERIORATING THE DASH, BUT STILL ULTIMATELY IN, IN A SECURE BAY WOULD BE THE BEST FOR IT. SO AT THE INCREASED NUMBER OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS COMES AN IN CORRESPONDING RISE IN POPULATION OF COURSE. UM, NOT ALL OF THESE ARE IN THE CITY, BUT THERE ARE SEV QUITE A FEW HERE IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON. UH, AND THEREIN IS UNFORTUNATELY A HIGHER NUMBER OF CITIZENS UTILIZING AMBULANCE SERVICES THAT ARE ON MEDICARE, MEDICAID OR UNINSURED. UM, SO CURRENTLY THE FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF ANGLETON IS 96,000 A YEAR. AND THIS IS WHAT IT WAS, UH, THE YEAR BEFORE AS WELL. UH, BUT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT SAME LEVEL OF QUALITY SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF ANGLETON, WITH THE INCREASED POPULATION AND RESPONSE TO CALLS, UH, AND THE INCREASED REIMBURSEMENT RATES, WE ARE REQUESTING TO RAISE THAT RATE TO $230,000 TO HELP COVER THAT DEFICIT FOR RESPONSE. UM, THAT BEING SAID, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO REALIZE THAT THAT WAS A BIG JUMP AND I, UM, , I APOLOGIZE. UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE NUMBER WHERE WE WERE AT. SURE. UM, AND I WILL TAKE ANYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION WITH, WITH GLADNESS, ARE YOU LOOKING AT FUNDING IMPROVEMENT FROM ESD AS WELL? UM, ARE THEY UPPING YOU AS WELL? YES, WE ARE GOING UP WITH THEM AS WELL. IF I, I JUST TURNED IN THAT BUDGET. I'VE BEEN DOING TWO AT THE SAME TIME, SO I'M KIND OF CROSS. I APOLOGIZE, BUT YES, IT IS GOING UP, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW, REMEMBER MY NUMBER. WELL I DO THINK WITH THE NEW ROOFTOPS AND THE NEW WATER BILLS, YOU'RE GONNA GET MORE FUNDING BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT. OH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COMPLETELY. SO I I THINK YOU'RE, AS LONG AS THEY REMEMBER TO ADD IT ONTO THEIR WATER BILL AS LONG AS THEY, YES. UM, SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE IS YEAR OVER YEAR. I MEAN, OUR BUDGET'S TIED AS WELL. WELL, SO I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AS WELL. COUNCILMAN BOOTH AND I ARE SQUABBLING OVER 25,000 BUCKS, SO I'M NOT GONNA LIE, I WAS TEXTING MY, UM, OPERATIONAL GUY GOING, THEY'RE GONNA HATE ME , SO I SEE 230,000. I'M LIKE, YEAH, NO, I GET IT. CAN WE LEASE PURCHASE THAT? ARE YOU ASKING THE OTHER CITIES FOR INCREASES? UH, WE, THE ONLY OTHER CITY THAT WE GET MONEY FROM IS BAILEY'S PRAIRIE. UM, AND IT HAS GONE UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT, IT'S, I MEAN WE, WE RUN A HUNDRED CALLS A YEAR OUT THERE. MAYBE I HEAR BAILEY'S PRAYER IS RICH THOUGH. YOU CAN GET MORE MONEY FROM THEM. , THAT'S PROBABLY 20,000 PER RESIDENT. . YEAH, . UM, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DO Y'ALL, I MEAN I KNOW WE CAN'T DO TWO 30, BUT YOU KNOW, I WAS INCREASING TO AN EVEN A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE YEAR WOULD BE SOMETHING. WELL, IF WE WENT UP 10%, THAT'D BE $9,600. YOU CLOSE TO ONE FIVE. YEAH. WHEN LUCILLE WAS HERE LAST YEAR, SHE MENTIONED THE PROBLEMS THAT SHE WAS HAVING WITH THE UNINSURED AND YOU HAVE IT ON THERE THE SECOND PERIOD. MM-HMM. . UM, WHAT, WHAT AVENUES HAVE YOU BEEN GOING DOWN IN YOUR, WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR BUSINESS TO TRY TO GET MORE OF THAT MONEY? SO WE, UH, USE A OUTSOURCED BILLING COMPANY. MM-HMM. . SO ONCE WE COMPLETE OUR EPCR, WHICH IS OUR ELECTRONIC PATIENT CARE REPORT, IT GOES, UH, UPLOADS TO UH, COMPANY CALLED DIGITECH. AND THEN THEY GO FROM THERE. THEY START OF COURSE BY BILLING THE INSURANCE AND THEN THEY SEND BILLS TO THE PAP THE PEOPLE AND THEN IT GOES TO, UM, UH, COLLECTIONS. ARE YOU SEEING AN IMPROVEMENT? ARE YOU GETTING WE GET A VERY SMALL AMOUNT. I CAN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T HAVE THOSE WITH ME RIGHT NOW. BUT WE DO GET A SMALL PERCENTAGE FROM COLLECTIONS. UM, AND HONESTLY WE'VE SEEN SOME INCREASE WITH PRIVATE [06:25:01] INSURANCES. LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS A MANDATE THAT THEY SAID THEY HAD TO PAY MORE THAN THE BARE ME MEDICARE RATES. AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME WITH THAT. UM, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT MY JUNE FINANCIALS AND I THINK WE'RE AT 51% OF WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED ON FOR THE YEAR. SO WE'RE RIGHT AT WHERE WE SHOULD BE AT THE END OF JUNE. SORRY. SO WE'RE RIGHT AT, WE'RE RIGHT AT THAT MIDDLE MARK OF WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE WITH, WITH IT. SO IT'S, IT'S LOOKING LIKE I'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT BUDGETED NUMBER THAT I KIND OF WENT A LITTLE OVER ZEALOUS ON, BUT, UH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR. RIGHT? I MEAN YOUR, YOUR COSTS ARE INCREASING A LOT. I KNOW YOU HAVE COSTS, BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE REVENUE IN A LOT OF CASES. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT LUCILLE TOLD US LAST YEAR. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF WONDERING IF THAT'S IMPROVING BECAUSE THAT REDUCES AS FAR AS THE NUMBER, NO, NOT REALLY. OKAY. AND THEN AS, AS AS PEOPLE AGE AND YOU KNOW, MEDICARE AND MEDICAID ARE NOT INSURANCE, THEY'RE LOST. SO THEY'RE COVERED WITH STRICT RULES THAT DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO BE BILLED AFTER AND MM-HMM. FOR ADDITIONAL RATES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE ABOVE THEIR NORMAL, UM, COPAYS AND OF WHAT NOT. I AM WITH TRAVIS OF 105, I DO THINK WE CAN'T BE STAGNANT TOO LONG OR IT'S GONNA MAKE IT THAT MUCH HARDER TO EAT LATER. I MEAN, THE OPTION IS ALSO TO DO NOTHING BUT THAT JUST, WELL IF WE DID NOTHING LAST YEAR, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I KNOW I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU DO HAVE, AND, AND AND LIKE YOU SAID, WITH THE ADDITIONAL ROOFTOPS AND IF WE CAN PROMOTE THE WATER BILL, UM, WE MAY, WE'VE, WE HAVEN'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT IN QUITE A SOME TIME. WE DID IT ONE TIME SEND OUT A, BASICALLY LIKE A FLYER TO EVERYONE IS LIKE, HEY, OF COURSE THAT MAY MAKE PEOPLE TURN IT OFF. I DON'T KNOW. AND WE MAY JUST NEED TO DO A SOCIAL MEDIA PUSH AND REPRESENT ALL THE, BECAUSE BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ON THERE WE'RE ON THERE, UM, FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THOSE ARE BOTH VOLUNTARY. WHAT WAS YOUR, WHAT WAS YOUR ACTUAL DEFICIT? ALMOST TWO 30. YOU GO BACK IT WAS TWO 30. 2 32 I THINK. YEAH. YEAH. GO BACK A FEW SLIDES RIGHT THERE. UH, IT WAS 1 36, 1 1 14, BUT THAT WAS LESS THAN THE 96 THAT WE ALREADY GOT. THAT'S WHERE THE TWO 30 CAME FROM. RIGHT. THAT THE WATER BILL DONATION HAS GONE DOWN 15,000 RIGHT THERE. AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO PROMOTE IT 'CAUSE THEY'VE, 'CAUSE THEY'VE RECENTLY MADE IT TO WHERE IT CAN BE ADDED ONTO THE BUSINESSES AS WELL. SO I'VE BEEN OUT PROMOTING THAT. UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN MUCH PROMOTING TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT I KNOW PERSONALLY IF I GOT MY WATER BILL AND IT WAS ON THERE, IT WAS, YOU JUST PAID IT. I DIDN'T EVER FIGHT IT. WELL WHEN WATER RATES KEEP GOING UP AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO SAVE MONEY, THEY'RE CUTTING WHERE THEY CAN. INVOLUNTARY IS A WORD THAT THEY GO, I CAN'T AFFORD THIS CUT. YEAH. ALTHOUGH K B'S UP, THAT'S WHAT YEAH. K'S UP. THAT'S WHAT I WAS, WE DOUBLED IT AND IT WENT UP STILL. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, ANYTHING FOR CONSIDERATION WOULD BE APPRECIATED. PHIL, DID YOU FIND THE REVENUE HE WAS GOING TO UH, LIABILITY ACCOUNT WHEN HE COMES IN? WE DON'T RECORD IT AS REVENUE. OKAY. FOR OUR GRANT COMPANY THAT WE USE. IS THERE A WAY TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM ALSO SINCE WE CONTRACT? YEAH. I MEAN WE USE GRANT WORKS TO HELP YOU FIND MORE FUNDING. I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK. THAT'S AWESOME. AND I'LL CONNECT YOU WORK WITH THAT. YEAH. 'CAUSE I'M ALWAYS ON THE HUNT AND I MEAN I, I'VE BEEN, I DO ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO TWO A YEAR NOW. NOT GRANTED, ANYTHING I'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS NOT BEEN VERY BIG. IT'S USUALLY WHAT I DO IS STUFF FOR EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, UM, SAFETY EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. UM, THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS FOR, I DON'T KNOW, $5,000 FOR FLASHLIGHTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T REMEMBER. BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT, IT, HELL EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS AND I'M, SO I'M DEFINITELY WILLING TO WORK WITH Y'ALL ON, TAKE ANY INFORMATION THAT Y'ALL HAVE THAT COULD HELP ME OUT. BUT I AGREE WITH THE, WITH THE, THE RAISE, UM, AND FUNDING, [06:30:01] WHENEVER I TOURED THEIR FACILITY, LITERALLY EVERY ROOM THAT THEY HAVE IS USED FOR STORAGE. THE BATHROOM, THE TRAINING ROOM, THE HALLWAYS. OKAY. AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP CHRISSY, BECAUSE I DO INVITE ANY OF Y'ALL, Y'ALL ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO ME. UM, I'LL COME GIVE YOU A PERSONAL TOUR OF THE STATION. WE CAN WALK AROUND AND SHOW YOU HOW THINGS ARE OPERATED. ANY, ANY TIME. GOOD. VERY, VERY MUCH OPEN TO COME IN AND CHECK US OUT. IT WAS REALLY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I EVERYONE EVACUATED WHEN I CAME. THERE WERE THREE CALLS AT ONCE AND ONE WAS PRETTY AWFUL. SO THAT'S HOW IT ALWAYS IS. . IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THERE. GO BACK IN THERE AND LOOK AT IT. DID YOU SAY YOU PULLED ALARM WHILE YOU WERE IN THERE? ? NO. AND PARKED RIGHT WHEN I PARKED IT IS LIKE, THAT WAS THE TRIGGER. . ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR WAITING SO LONG. FOR SURE. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. TWO HOURS LATER I GOT A 17% INCREASE TO GOOD AFTERNOON. I'LL TRY TO FUMBLE THROUGH THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. 'CAUSE I KNOW MY BOSS IS LIKE CHOMPING AT THE BIT 'CAUSE HE CAN'T BE HERE . UM, BUT HE'S GETTING BETTER. I SAW HIM YESTERDAY AND HE'S LOOKING A LOT BETTER. THAT'S GOOD. SO WHERE DO Y'ALL WANNA START? SO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS STUFF THAT'S, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED. YOU DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH EVERY LINE. WELL, I CALL THINGS LIKE INSURANCE AND, AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE STANDARD ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. YOU DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THAT. BUT REALLY OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE AND SALARIES AND UH, AND THOSE THINGS ARE REALLY THE THINGS YOU NEED TO, OKAY. IF WE STARTING WITH, UM, AFTER OUR, OUR PERSONAL SERVICES, UM, 'CAUSE A LOT OF THIS OTHER STUFF WAS, IT'S KIND OF SET, UM, 2 0 5 GENERAL SUPPLIES. YEAH. THAT'S A, UM, IT'S NOT A 2300% INCREASE THAT IS GOING TO BE A TYPO. UM, BECAUSE IN THAT IS THE MAIN INCREASE THAT WE SEE WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING OUT OF THAT IS, UH, INCREASE ON EVIDENCE TESTING FOR FENTANYL. UM, THAT THE RIGHT ONE. YEAH. UH, SO I THINK WE WERE JUST LOOKING TO GO UP TO THE 18,000, NOT 348,000. YEAH, LET'S FIX THAT. YOUR 18,000 IS ABOUT ON PACE. SO WE'RE AT YOU'RE ESTIMATING FOR THE END OF THIS YEAR? YEAH. YEAH. YOU'RE GOOD BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THE, THE INCREASE IN ALL THE LITTLE STUFF. BUT THERE WAS A, A BIGGER BUMP IN THE FENTANYL TESTING. CAN WE TALK ABOUT APPAREL? I MEAN, UH, YES SIR. I MEAN, YOU'RE ONLY AT 13,000 FOR THE YEAR. YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY FINISH AROUND 32. LET'S JUST SAY YOU, LET'S NOT SAY ON THE HIGH SIDE. 40. AND YOU'RE GOING UP TO 90. WELL, WE'RE FIXING TO SPEND I UNDERSTAND THAT. THE ONE OF THE THING, IF WE CAN EVER GET FULL, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING A LOT MORE. UM, WE'RE ARE, ARE YOU WE'RE ONBOARDING, WE GOT THREE OPENINGS RIGHT NOW, WHICH WE'RE ONBOARDING ONE MONDAY AND THEN HOPEFULLY ANOTHER ONE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. UM, AND THE COST OF TOTALLY OUTFITTING THEM OUT IS ALMOST $3,200 NOW. YEAH, BUT THAT'S THREE PEOPLE. THAT'S STILL A LOT THOUGH. THAT'S THREE TIMES 30, 200. YOU'RE DOUBLING YOUR PAYROLL COST NEXT YEAR. I DON'T KNOW. JUST SOMETHING TO MAYBE LOOK AT. YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE TO SIT HERE AND SOLVE IT NOW, BUT LOOK DOES LOOK LIKE THERE COULD BE AN AREA FOR SOME SAVINGS THERE. I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIAL NOTES. I WILL, UH, I WILL LOOK AT THAT ONE. OKAY. OR WE'LL HAVE CHIEF UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES, UM, BUMPING THAT. JUST EVERYTHING GOING UP. UM, THE ONE I DON'T HAVE, [06:35:01] I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET BACK WITH Y'ALL ON IS THE EXACT NUMBER ON THE BIG JUMP ON OUR POSTAGE. UH, IT'S $2,500. I MEAN YEAH, BUT I MEAN IT'S, IT'S A, YOU'RE RIGHT. A DOLLAR'S A DOLLAR YOU HAVEN'T SPENT. YEAH. ONCE AGAIN, THE ESTIMATE'S WRONG OFF THE ACTUAL, THE YOU'VE ONLY SPENT FOUR $14 BUT YOU'RE ESTIMATING ZERO. UH, NOT YOU. BUT, UH, SO AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA, YOUR BASIS IS 2,500. I MEAN THE SCOPE OF THINGS I'D RATHER FIND OUT ABOUT THE APPAREL . UM, AND YOU'RE SEEING THE SAME THING ON FUEL EXPENSE. ON WHAT? FUEL EXPENSE. TWO 16. YOU'RE BUMPING THAT UP. IT'S IT IS WHAT IT IS. YEAH. I MEAN GOT IT. WITH THE FLUCTUATION OF IT. UH, NEVER KNOW HO HOPEFULLY I'D LOVE FOR IT TO GO DOWN. BUT THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP. MM-HMM. AND FIREARMS. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S A PAYBACK. YEP. UM, OH, THAT REMINDS ME. I HAVEN'T CHECKED THAT. IS IT TIME BACK? IT SHOULD. IS IT POLICE GUN DEDUCTION? YES. THAT DOESN'T TIE BACK. 45,000 VERSUS 16,000. YOU'RE MAKING MONEY PURCHASE PROGRAM LINE FIVE THREE BUDGET. 45. OKAY. LINE FIVE 40. YES. OKAY. NOT 2, 2 6. SO WHAT'S 2, 2 6 THEN? BATTERY BATTERIES. ET OH YEAH, THAT'S THE TASER FOR AMMO. UM, TASER CARTRIDGES, TASER BATTERIES, TARGET ACCESSORIES. LESS LETHAL. UM, OKAY. QUALIFICATIONS, FARM QUALIFICATIONS. UM, SO THAT'S INCIDENTALS RELATED. BUT YOU HAVEN'T SPENT IT THIS YEAR AT ALL. I MEAN, $4,000 OF THE 13 YOU BUDGETED. OH, WE'RE, WE'RE FIXING TO LIKE ALL, ALL THE, ALL OF OUR CARTRIDGES ON OUR RESEARCH. UM, FIXING TO RE-UP ON AMMO. 'CAUSE ESPECIALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME TRAINING. UH, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A LOT. IS IT ANNUAL? MM-HMM. YOU GOTTA DO THIS ANNUALLY OR HOW, HOW LONG IS THE LIFECYCLE? WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO DO A FORCE ON FORCE. MM-HMM. WITHIN THIS TRAINING CYCLE. ALL EVERYBODY DOES. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE RIFLE, UH, PATROL RIFLE QUAL, OR NOT QUALIFICATION CERTIFICATION SO WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE CLEARED FOR CARRYING RIFLES. UM, THEY'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH A A COURSE AND WE NORMALLY RUN ABOUT 2000 ROUNDS OF RIFLE AND ABOUT 500 A PISTOL, BUT IT'S A WEEK LONG COURSE. OKAY. YOU WANNA HIT REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE? YEAH. THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. UH, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN THAT THE MORE I CAN SEE THAT KIND OF COMING DOWN, UM, WITH MORE OF THE ENTERPRISE AND GETTING RID OF SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE OWN. UH, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THE ONES THAT WE OWN WITH THE CURRENT MILEAGE, UM, I JUST DON'T REALLY SEE THAT DROPPING A WHOLE LOT. I AND THAT WE GOT THREE THE OTHER NIGHT. BUT THAT STILL KEEPS BUT YOU'RE INCREASING YOUR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. YEAH. BECAUSE THE ONES THAT WE OWN ARE GETTING MORE MILES AND WE [06:40:01] HOW MANY DO YOU TOTAL HAVE RIGHT NOW IN THE ENTERPRISE? FLEET OF ENTERPRISE? OR HOW MANY DO IT BE QUICKER IF I, OKAY, SO WHICH ONE? THE, THE ONES THAT, UM, ARE LEASED. WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 GOT 14. AND WE GOT RID OF, WE GOT RID OF THREE OF THE SIX THAT YOU HAD. MM-HMM. . SO NOW WE, WELL WE WILL, WE WILL, WE WE WILL. IT, IT COULD TAKE A YEAR. SO ONE OF THE ISSUES, REMEMBER THAT, UH, STEVEN BROUGHT UP TIMING IS THE TAHOES HAVE A LONG LEAD TIME. SO WE'RE GONNA, HE'S GONNA PROPOSE SOME OTHER POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE VEHICLES, UM, AS REPLACEMENTS THAT AREN'T TAHOES. AND SO, BUT IF WE SELECT TAHOES, THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THESE VEHICLES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. 'CAUSE IT NOT ONLY GONNA GET THE VEHICLES AND WE'RE GONNA TURN 'EM OVER, HOW LONG IS THE OUTFITTING TAKING? WHO DEPENDS IF WE'RE BEHIND HPD OR HARRIS COUNTY OR NOT. UM, AND THE, THE PROBLEM THAT WE RAN INTO LAST YEAR WAS GETTING SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT FROM WATCHGUARD WHO WE'RE, THAT'S WHO OUR, OUR CAMERA SYSTEM'S THROUGH OUR BODY CAM AND IN-CAR, UM, THAT WAS THE HOLD UP. WE HAD PRETTY MUCH ALL THE OTHER EQUIPMENT IN. UM, AND THEN IT'S JUST GETTING ON THE, ON THE BLOCK BECAUSE ALL THESE UPFITTERS, BUT IT COULD TAKE A COUPLE. SO YEAH. CUT TO THE CHASE. IT COULD TAKE A COUPLE MONTHS PAST RECEIVING THE VEHICLE TO GET IT OUTFITTED. SO WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN EVEN THE THREE THAT WE'RE UPGRADING FOR SIX TO NINE MONTHS, I THINK. YEAH. BUT WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE AND THAT'S NOT HOW IT WAS SOLD TO US FROM ENTERPRISE. AND THAT'S YEAH. BUT UNTIL WE, BUT UNTIL WE GET THE VEHICLES, WE'RE GOING TO STILL INCUR THOSE COSTS. BUT WE'VE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN THAT FLEET AND WE'RE STILL SEEING REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE NOT GOING DOWN VERY MUCH. 'CAUSE WE STILL OWN IN THE, OVER HALF OF OUR FLEET IS STILL OWNED WITH A HUNDRED OR CLOSE TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR CLOSE TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON THEM. SURE. WHAT IS THE AND THE, THERE'S JUST THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING. YEAH. UH, SHOP PRICES HAVE GONE UP. UM, TRANSMISSIONS, , UH, WELL, I'M SAYING IS YOUR, SO YOUR ACTUAL AND FISCAL YEAR 23 WAS 124,000 TOTAL REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE JUST ON THE VEHICLES WAS 81,000. AND THEN YOU BUDGETED 65, YOU'RE GONNA BE AT 68, YOU'RE GOING UP TO 78. SO YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN HALF, I MEAN YOU'RE OVER HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR AND YOU'RE ONLY AT 32,000. SO I'M NOT SEEING A CORRELATION THAT, THAT THE VEHICLES WE'VE ADDED SO FAR ARE NOT REALLY PUSHING DOWN BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY SHOWING $2,000 SAVINGS. BUT IN TOTAL REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, YOU'RE GOING UP. SO ONE 24,000 TO ONE 32,000. SO, I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST, I'M LOOKING AT THIS GOING, HOW IS THIS WORKING? I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IT FROM A TOTAL FLEET STANDPOINT, BUT YOU JUST, YOU GOT IT. 'CAUSE I JUST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT HERE. YEAH. I'M, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE FOR VEHICLES HAS GONE DOWN OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME WE'VE, I IMPLEMENTED ENTERPRISE. I I THINK, I THINK IT WILL THE MORE LEASE VEHICLES WE HAVE, THE PROBLEM, I MEAN SOME OF THESE LEASED VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE NOT GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING BECAUSE LIKE ALL THE CID HAS LEASED VEHICLES. MM-HMM. , UM, CHIEFS IS, UH, IT'S THE LEASED VEHICLES THAT ARE ON THE STREET. I THINK THOSE ARE TRULY SAVING US. UM, BUT WE STILL OWN SO MANY OF OUR PATROL CARS AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT GO THROUGH THE, THEY, THEY GOTTA GET MORE ATTENTION'S DONE TO 'EM. SURE. UM, SO DO WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON, UM, LEASE VEHICLES BEING FLEET VEHICLES? IE PATROL VEHICLES? IF, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF WE GET THE SAME VALUE IF WE'RE NOT PUTTING AS MUCH MILES ON 'EM, UH, SUCH AS A, LIKE A CHIEFS, I THINK WE WOULD ON THE, THE, THE TRADE-IN SIDE OR THE REPLACEMENT SIDE. OKAY. I, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT, SO THOSE MONIES WORKED ON THAT DEAL. IT'S JUST FROM HIS PRESENTATION THE OTHER NIGHT. SO I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO THAT THING WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH, UH, ABOUT THE PUBLIC WORKS VEHICLES EQUIPMENT AND ALSO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE, THAT'S NOT, UH, THAT'S NOT [06:45:01] RECEIVING THE HEAVY WEAR, THAT'S NOT GETTING THE MILEAGE POINT. 'CAUSE LET'S FACE IT, ONE OF THOSE TAHOES AFTER Y'ALL ARE DONE WITH IT, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU A WOODEN NICKEL FOR IT, HONESTLY. SO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH. I MEAN THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DONE. AND SO IT'S, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US TO REALLY OWN THOSE VEHICLES AND DEAL WITH THE, TO ME, AS LONG AS THE, AS LONG AS THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING IS NOT ABSURDLY OVER WHAT THE COST OF OWNERSHIP WOULD BE OR, OR LESS, AS LONG AS IT'S AROUND THERE. I I THINK YOU'RE STILL GETTING VALUE. I'D HOPE FOR IT TO BE LESS. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE, DO WE NEED A BIG TAHOE FOR CHIEF OR SOMEBODY THAT, OR SCID IF THEY'RE NOT PUTTING A WHOLE LOT OF MILES ON IT. CID RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE RUNNING THE EQUINOX. THEY'RE, IT'S A SMALLER, THEY'RE SMALLER VEHICLE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GONNA OWN ANYTHING, MAYBE IT WOULD BE THOSE 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT PUTTING MILES ON, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST SPIT BALL. WELL, WE LET, WE CAN DO SOME ADJUSTING ON ON THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S, YES. I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I, I MEAN JUST, AND I, I THINK WHAT I'M ALSO ECHOING A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT TANNER'S SAYING. I MEAN, I, OUR, OUR PATROL UNITS THOUGH, I MEAN THAT'S WHERE YOU, I THINK YOU'D SAVE THE MONEY 'CAUSE THEY'RE GETTING THE WEAR AND TEAR, THAT'S ALL. MM-HMM. . YEAH. WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY THERE. WE KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE REALLY LITTLE OR NO, UH, CASH VALUE THERE. AND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST WANTING 'EM TO BE FLIPPED OVER IN NEW VEHICLES AND NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT SITUATION. BECAUSE I DO THINK IF, IF YOU CAN TURN 'EM OVER FASTER, IF YOU, IF YOU ARE TURNING THEM OVER UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR RIGHT OUT A HUNDRED, YOU'RE GONNA GET A LITTLE MORE VALUE FOR MOST DEFINITELY. YOU START GOING OVER THAT, IT STARTS, I THINK, THE JUMPING FAST. YEAH. I, WE'VE, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF CORPORATE VEHICLES AND OUR POLICY HAS, HAS ACTUALLY GROWN AS VEHICLES HAVE GOTTEN MORE RELIABLE. AND OUR, OUR DIESELS GO TO, TO 200 MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DEPENDING, BUT GAS VEHICLES, OUR TRUCKS, WE TURN THOSE OVER AT 150. YEAH. AND, AND JUST LIKE, LIKE, I THINK YOU BROUGHT IT UP TUESDAY NIGHT. UM, I'VE GOT A, A, A, A LIST OF VEHICLES THAT ARE GOOD TO GO THAT WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF. BUT NOW ON THE, THE THREE, BASICALLY THE LIEUTENANTS ON THURSDAY, I GUESS WE WERE WORKING ON THIS, UM, I NEED TO KNOW WHICH ONES. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE THE HIGHEST MILEAGE. ONE WITH THE HIGHEST MILEAGE MIGHT BE THE ONE THAT'S NOT GIVING US AS MUCH TROUBLE, WHICH ONE IS, HAS BEEN GIVING US TROUBLE. RIGHT. THAT WE'RE SPENDING THEM MORE MONEY ON. THAT'S GOTTA BE THE FIRST ONE. AND THEN WE GO DOWN THE LIST. SO, AND, AND THERE'S SOME THINGS I MET WITH ENTERPRISE ON FRIDAY WITH STEVEN AND WE WERE TALKING OVER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, LET'S, LET'S GET RID OF SOME OF THE OLDER VEHICLES AND WHATEVER. THEY'VE GOT SOME OF THE OLDEST VEHICLES IN THE CITY FLEET, BUT IT'S LIKE THE CITIZEN POLICE ACADEMY CAR THAT GETS NO MILEAGE PER YEAR DOESN'T GET DRIVEN. SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, 15,000 ON A, ON A LEASED VEHICLE FOR SOME, FOR SOME VEHICLE THAT'S NOT PURPOSEFUL UNLESS YOU REPURPOSED FOR SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WAS ABLE TO DEDICATE TO THAT DURING THAT TIME. BUT, WELL, AND, AND I LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN MOST PEOPLE. I MEAN, MY WIFE DRIVES BRAND NEW VEHICLES PRETTY REGULARLY, AND I DRIVE A 242,000 MILE DIESEL TRUCK. AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE I HAVE TO, IT'S BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE FINANCIALLY AND I'M NOT GONNA GO BUY A 90,000 TRUCK. BUT THE, BUT THE OTHER PIECE TO THAT TOO IS IN THE ENTERPRISE MODEL, SO I'LL, I'LL USE CHIEF'S VEHICLE FOR EXAMPLE. IT'S NOT ALL GIGGED UP WITH RADIOS AND WHATEVER THAT'S GONNA BE TURNED IN AND SOLD BY ENTERPRISE AS PART OF THAT COST RECOVERY MODEL. SURE. RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GET THAT, THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR MONEY AND WE'RE GONNA GET THAT CHECK BACK. I THINK STEVEN SAID IT WAS $78,000 OR WHATEVER BASED OFF OF THAT SALE. SO SOME, SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES ARE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT HIGH MILEAGE, ARE BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IN RIGHT. THREE YEARS ENTERPRISE WILL SAY, OKAY, IT'S TIME TO, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE NEW VEHICLE AND WE'RE GONNA SELL THIS ONE. OH, ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU'RE FLIPPING EITHER A THREE OR 4-YEAR-OLD AND IT'S ONLY GOT 45 TO 60,000 MILES ON IT, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SO MUCH MONEY OFF THAT. YEAH. IT'S, WELL, AND THAT'S THE OTHER COMPONENT TOO, IS THAT YOU GUYS VEHICLES NEED TO, NEED TO BE, NEED TO BE RELIABLE. IF ONE OF OUR, IF ONE OF OUR PUBLIC PUBLIC WORKS TRUCKS GOES DOWN, IS IT THE, THE END OF THE WORLD? NOT REALLY. YEAH. BUT IF YOU'RE OPERATING WITH, WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED, ONE VEHICLE GOING DOWN IS PROBLEMATIC. MM-HMM. , [06:50:07] KEEP GOING. OKAY. UH, EQUIPMENT STAYED BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, BUILDING, UH, WE SHOULD BE GOOD. UM, MOST OF EVERYTHING'S BEEN CHANGED OUT AS FAR AS OUR ACS. UM, I THINK ALL OF THEM ARE UNDER WARRANTY EXCEPT FOR ONE UNIT AND WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY PROBLEMS OUTTA THAT UNIT. UH, OKAY. SO LET'S KEEP GOING. SO REMEMBER WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, PHONES INCREASES AND CHANGES, UH, TRAINING AND TRAVEL. UM, THAT WAS AN INCREASE, UM, DUE TO MAIN, MAINLY A BUNCH OF THE MANDATED STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO DO ON TOP OF OUR DEPARTMENT IS SO YOUNG. UH, WE'RE HAVING TO TRAIN 'EM UP FROM THE GET GO AND, AND THEY'RE JUST NOT COMING IN, UM, WITH A LOT OF TRAINING ON THEM AND FROM LESS LETHAL TO USE OF FORCE TO EVERYTHING. I, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S SO MUCH TRAINING THAT THEY'VE GOTTA GET THAT FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS. UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY , WE'RE GETTING THEM, UH, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE GETTING THEM AND THEY SEEM TO BE GOOD OFFICERS, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT MONEY INTO THEIR TRAINING FOR, UH, YEAH. STAYING CREDIT CARD FEES, YOU'RE GOING DOWN. YEAH, I HAVE. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S BEING HANDLED BY, WE STOPPED TAKING CREDIT CARDS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YEAH. OKAY. WE WERE EXPECTING THE, THE CHILDREN ALLIANCE TO GO UP, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE SAME. AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET OUR FORENSIC INTERVIEWS FOR ON THE CHILDREN. GOOD. BACK ON THOSE TRAINING AND TRAVEL AND STUFF. YOU KNOW, I REALIZE YOU GOTTA GET YOUR NEW, YOUR NEW, NEW PEOPLE UP TO SPEED LIKE YOU NEED THEM. AND I SURE HATE TO SEE 'EM WHEN THEY WALK OUT THE DOOR AND THEY TAKE ALL THAT WITH THEM AND WE GET TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. WELL, UN UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF IT IS, IS WE'RE SEEING MORE MANDATED STUFF. UM, AND NOT SAYING THAT'S FALLING SOLELY ON US. EVERYBODY'S HAVING TO, UM, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S, WE'VE MADE A BUNCH OF CHANGES. WE'VE HAD PROMOTIONS, UM, AND IT'S NOT ONLY, SO I'M, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S ONLY THEM, BUT WE DO HAVE A YOUNG DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE BASICALLY THREE NEWER DETECTIVES. UM, TWO, TWO VERY NEW DETECTIVES. UH, WE GOTTA GET THEM IN SOME SPECIALIZED TRAINING. UM, AND I THINK OF SOME OF THIS WAS ON A CONTINGENCY OF IF WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE ANY ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN DECISIONS PACKAGES. OKAY. UM, JUST SAYING UP, THERE'S A WAY TO, IF THERE'S A WAY TO RECOVER SOME OF THIS, IF THEY, IF THEY LEAVE AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A, YOU DON'T HAVE A WAY TO PUT A HOOK INTO 'EM THAT MM-HMM. AND, AND LIKE I SAID, NOT ALL OF THIS IS NECESSARILY FOR BRAND NEW OFFICERS. UM, I'LL SAY THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT, BUT NOT ALL OF IT. I MEAN, WE HAVE A HUGE PIECE OF IT THAT'S GOING INTO PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE VESTED. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY, THEY GOT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. MM-HMM. . SO YOU GOTTA TAKE SOME COMPLIANCE. YES. THEY, AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO BETTER THEMSELVES. UM, THEY'RE KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, UH, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO HONE THEIR CRAFT. SO NOW WE DON'T NECESSARILY, I I, WE DON'T, IF THEY'RE WANTING TO GO TO, TO [06:55:02] BE A TRAFFIC UNIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO SEND THEM TO A WEEK LONG, UH, HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION SCHOOL, UM, AND PAY FOR IT. UH, IT NEEDS TO KIND OF BE ON, ON THEIR TRACK. UM, NOW OF COURSE MY DETECTIVES SEND 'EM THAT WAY. UM, BUT WE KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE PAYING FOR THE TRAINING, IT'S KIND OF ON THE PATH OF, OF THAT THEY'RE ON AT THAT, AT THAT TIME. OKAY. IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. I, CHRIS, ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS, WE GOT THERE. 5 3 5. IS THAT A DECISION PACKAGE? N NO. NO. IT WAS, THAT WAS A, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHY THE, ON THE JUMP AND, OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REVISIT THIS ONE. I, I, I DON'T THINK THIS ONE'S GONNA BE CORRECT ON THE, UH, ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS BECAUSE I'M ALREADY SEEING ONE THING THAT HE IS NOT THERE ANYMORE. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA COME DOWN SOME. I WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO HIT THE DECISION PACKAGES? YES, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE 'EM RANKED, UM, BY OFFICERS. AND JUST A QUICK, QUICK STORY. I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT QUICK. UM, WE'VE BEEN AT, AT 37 SWORN OFFICERS SINCE I THINK 2000. I WAS HIRED ON IN 2000, UH, IN, IN 1997 WHEN I HIRED ON, THEY, THERE WAS FOUR OF US HIRED ON A COPS GRANT, UM, AT THE SAME TIME. THAT WAS IN NINE SEVEN. AND IT WAS EITHER 99 OR 2000. THEY LOST THE GRANT AND THE CITY JUST DECIDED THEY WEREN'T GOING TO COVER TWO POSITIONS. WELL, LUCKILY TWO PEOPLE LEFT, SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DRAW STRAWS. I GOTTA KEEP MY JOB . SO IT WAS JUST, IT'S BEEN AT, AT 37. UM, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING AT THAT AND WE'RE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABOUT 1.8 OFFICERS PER THOUSAND IN POPULATION, UM, WITH THE ROOFTOPS THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING. UM, AND BASICALLY, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH A, A, A NATIONAL FORMULA OF 2.5 OFFICERS PER THOUSAND. UM, AND WE'RE AT 1.8. WELL, THREE BRING US UP, NOT BY THE NUMBER, BUT IT GETS US REAL CLOSE. UM, GETS US REAL CLOSE. UH, [07:00:01] WHAT, WHAT IS OUR POPULATION TOTAL? HUH? OUR POPULATION? UH, THE TWO, THE 2022 WAS 19,610. THE 2024. SOME THE BEST I COULD FIND IT WAS LIKE 20,000 AND SOME VERY SMALL CHANGE. UM, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I WASN'T AN OFFICIAL, I DON'T THINK. UH, I DIDN'T THINK, BUT I MEAN, WE, I DO KNOW, UH, JUST IN THE, IN THE, THERE WAS 241 NEW COS WERE ISSUED FOR NEW HOMES, UM, JUST IN THIS LAST YEAR. RIGHT. UH, AND THAT'S, THAT CAME STRAIGHT FROM OTIS. UM, SO I KNOW IT'S A BIG HIT. UH, WE TAKE ANYTHING. SO NUMBER THREE IS INCORRECT BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, WE JUST FUNDED YES. THREE POLICE CARS AND SIX MORE UNITS DOESN'T EQUATE TO THE THREE OFFICERS. I I THINK IT'S TO THAT ENTERPRISE SLIDE WE TALKED ABOUT. THEY WANTED SIX, WE GAVE THEM THREE. AND THEN ADDITIONAL THREE WOULD BE FOR, FOR THE THREE NEW OFFICERS. RIGHT? SIX ARE, SIX ARE REPLACEMENT, THREE ARE FOR NEW OFFICERS. MM-HMM. CORRESPONDING WITH, OF WHICH WE FUNDED THREE FOR REPLACEMENT REPLACEMENT BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A, AND AND BASICALLY THE, THE NEW EQUIPMENT COSTS, UM, THAT'S FOR THE, UH, TASERS, UM, BODY CAMERAS, UH, THOSE, THOSE BIGGER TICKET ITEMS ON TOP OF WITH THAT CORRESPOND WITH THE OFFICERS. SO IT'S UH, ROUGHLY WHAT, 3,200 FOR OFFICER. RIGHT. TO GIVE 'EM NEW EQUIPMENT. YEAH. HOW ARE YOU GONNA ALLOCATE THOSE NEW OFFICERS? YOU'VE GOT FOUR MAIN SHIFTS, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . BUT YOU'RE ONLY GETTING THREE OFF. SO ONE SHIFT WOULD JUST NOT HAVE AN EXTRA OFFICER. NO, THEY, THEY'D GIVE US A COUPLE OF OTHER OPTIONS. UM, RIGHT NOW THAT THAT WOULD BASICALLY PUT MORE PEOPLE ON, ON THE SHIFT. WE'D HAVE, HAVE MORE COVERAGE AREA. UM, GIVE US THE OPTION TO ADD IN TO CID, UM, GIVE US THE OPTION TO ADD IN, UM, LIKE A, A, A TRAP, MORE OF A TRAFFIC UNIT. UM, A TARGET. WHAT, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS WE CAN DO WITH, WITH, IF WE HAVE THE PERSONNEL. UM, SO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BLACK, THE BLACK CAP AND STUFF AND WE HAVE THE 5 23 AND WE HAVE PINEY WAY AND WE HAVE ALL THESE WHATEVER, YOU'D HAVE A UNIT THAT COULD BE DEDICATED TO DOING THAT AND SAY DURING THE DAY HOURS OR WHATEVER, IT GIVES US THOSE, YOU ALSO GOTTA REMEMBER THAT THEY GO TO TRAINING, THEY DO PTO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT, FOUR ON A SHIFT? FIVE. FIVE. THE INCLUDING SERGEANT. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE FIVE ON A SHIFT. YOU'VE GOT FOUR, THREE SOMETHING DEPENDING ON WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING ON. MM-HMM. . AND IT JUST GIVES US THAT OPTION TO THINK ABOUT IF WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIALIZED UNIT, UM, WHICH WOULD STILL BE A COVERAGE UNIT. UH, 'CAUSE I, I, IT'S JUST THE MORE CARS YOU SEE, THE BETTER IT IS. AND I'D LIKE TO GET AS MANY OF 'EM OUT THERE. NUMBER FOUR, UH, TASERS, I, WE COVERED THAT THE OTHER NIGHT. UM, ARE WE, WE, ARE THEY WORKING? YES, THEY'RE WORKING. UM, IT'S JUST AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT REPLACING THEM. UM, NOW ON THIS, THERE IS A, A KIND OF A PAYMENT OPTION. UM, IT'S NOT ALL THAT MONEY'S AT THE SAME TIME. IF YOU'LL, UH, CAN YOU OPEN UP FOUR PHIL? I THINK IT'S ON THE ATTACHED. IS IT, IS THERE AN ATTACHMENT? YEAH. UM, ON THE QUOTE? YEAH. THE, THE QUOTE. AND THAT'S BASICALLY OVER A FIVE YEAR. IT'D BE THE, UH, THE [07:05:01] 47, 2 40 A YEAR INSTEAD OF THE HAVING TO COME UP WITH THE WHOLE WHOLE DEAL. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A SPECIAL. THEY'RE RUNNING JUST THIS YEAR. UM, JUST OKAY, BUT HOW'S THAT DIFFERENT FROM THE TASERS YOU MENTIONED ON EARLIER? HMM. THAT'S THE TASER, RIGHT? YES, SIR. TO REPLACE AGING TASERS, BUT YOU'VE GOT AN EXPENSE ON 2, 2 6 OF FIREARMS. AND YOU SAID THAT WAS THE TASER FOR CARTRIDGES? THE, THE CARTRIDGES. THAT'S JUST THE CARTRIDGES HERE? YES. YEAH. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, THAT'S FOR THE WHOLE THING. THAT'S THE OKAY. WHOLE THE NEW, UH, TASER. UM, I BELIEVE IT COMES WITH THE, THE HOLSTER AND EVERYTHING VERSUS HAVING, AND IF ON THAT IT SHOWED LIKE A $10,000, UM, SAVINGS, DISCOUNT, YEAH. THAT WAS, IF WE WOULD, WE DIDN'T BUY THE BUN, DO IT AS A BUNDLE. IF WE WERE JUST TO GO OUT AND BUY, SAY 25 OF THE TASERS AND THEN 25 OF THE HOLSTERS, 25 OF THIS, 25 OF THIS, AND THEN COME BACK AND DO IT A LITTLE BIT LATER, IT, THEY'RE GIVING US A DISCOUNT IF WE DO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THE WHOLE ONE WHOLE BIG DEAL, EVEN ON A PAYOUT. SO THAT'S JUST, BUT, 'CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE, WHERE WAS THE $10,000 SAVINGS PER YEAR? UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS. IF ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. AND LIKE I SAID, THE ONES WE HAVE NOW, THEY'RE, THEY STILL OPERATE, WE'RE STILL ABLE TO DOWNLOAD. UM, IT'S JUST, THEY'RE FOR LONG. THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE SUPPORTED AT ALL. UM, STOP STICKS. JUST ANOTHER, ANOTHER TOOL. UM, AND THEY'RE EASIER TO DEAL WITH. AND THAT'S THE STINGERS STRIPS. 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF COMICAL WATCHING SOME PEOPLE TRY TO GET THOSE OUT. UM, THEY WILL BACKLASH ON YOU LIKE A, A ROD AND REEL . OH YEAH. YOU CAN, YOU CAN OVERPOWER TRYING TO GET, GET 'EM OUT. THAT'S JD WHITE. YOU GOT A A REDACTION EMPLOYEE. IS THAT A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE FOR REDACTION ONLY? YES. AND THAT THEY WOULD BE IN THE, THE, THE RECORD IN RECORDS. UM, SO IF THEY WEREN'T DOING REDACTIONS, WHICH I HAVE A FEELING THAT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY, PRETTY FULL-TIME GIG. UM, AND THEY WILL ALSO HELP OUT IN RECORDS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR PD? AND, AND I DO APOLOGIZE, UH, COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND? I DO NOT HAVE YOU, YOU REQUESTED THE, UM, DEPLOYMENT BETWEEN, OR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE BOLO AND THE TASERS? UH, ME AND I THINK CAMERON WERE WORKING ON THAT THE OTHER DAY WHEN THE TESLA CAUGHT ON FIRE ON A, ON A WRECK. UM, AND I JUST, I I THOUGHT ABOUT IT WHEN I PULLED IN THE PARKING LOT TODAY. OKAY. BUT I WILL, I WILL GET THE, GET THE FIGURES FOR YOU. WHERE ARE THE FLOCK CAMERAS? HMM? ARE YOU BUYING MORE FLOCK CAMERAS? UM, YES SIR. I THINK WE'RE GETTING SOME MORE OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. MM-HMM. , DO WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE? YES. HAVE WE ADOPTED A, A FLOCK CAMERA POLICY? YES. IT'S IN OUR, UH, WELL I THINK IT'S IN THE, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE CITY. I THINK IT'S JUST IN OURS. YEAH. MM-HMM. JUST IN I CAN YOU SEND THAT TO ME? YES SIR. I'D LIKE TO READ IT. ALRIGHT. AND THEN, I MEAN, JUST IN GENERAL ON YOUR BUDGET FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU'RE AT FIVE POINT, YOU WERE AT 5.5 LAST YEAR IN 23. YOU'RE EXPECTING TO BE, YOU BUDGETED, IT SAYS 6 MILLION. I KNOW THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT'S IN THERE THAT'S REPEATING FROM LAST YEAR, BUT YOU'RE GONNA BE AROUND 5.3 [07:10:01] THIS YEAR, WHICH IS ABOUT $200,000 LESS THAN PRIOR YEAR. AND NOW YOU'RE BUDGETING TO GO UP TO 7 MILLION BEFORE THE PACKAGES. I JUST, I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THIS BUDGET AND I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER BECAUSE I MEAN, THE ACTUAL VERSUS WHERE YOU'RE ESTIMATING VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE BASING FOR NEXT YEAR, I THINK SOME OF THESE DECISION PACKAGES THAT YOU HAVE, YOU PROBABLY CAN DO THEM. WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS INSIDE YOUR BASE. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ONE IN THE 348,650 TYPO IN PACKAGES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGES MUCH. UM, ON MY TWO, ON 2 0 5. YEAH. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOUR BASE WITHOUT THE PACKAGES, YOUR BASE IS ALMOST 7 MILLION VERSUS YOUR ESTIMATED FOR THE END OF THIS YEAR IS AT 5.3. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK BY WHAT YOU'VE LINED OUT IN YOUR BASE, YOU PROBABLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOME OF THESE PACKAGES BECAUSE EVERY YEAR YOU'VE BUDGETED MORE THAN WHAT YOU'VE SPENT. SO THIS YEAR YOU BUDGETED 6 MILLION, YOU'RE GONNA BE AT 5.3, THAT'S ABOUT 700, LET'S SAY SIX 50. AND YOU'VE GOT 729,000 IN PACKAGES THIS YEAR. I, I THINK IF I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT YOUR BUDGETS FOR 23 AND 22, THEY WERE VERY SIMILAR IN THE CASE WHERE WHAT YOU BUDGETED AND WHAT YOU SPENT WERE TWO DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT THINGS. I JUST, I WANNA HELP YOU GET TO THESE PACKAGES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I, I THINK YOUR, YOUR BASE IS SO HIGH. YOU, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT THE ROOM IN IT. 'CAUSE Y'ALL SAY YOU'RE GONNA DO THINGS, BUT YOU DON'T EVER SPEND A LOT ALL THE MONEY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE LEAVING ALL THE TIME. HOW MANY HEADS HAVE YOU HAD TO REPLACE THIS YEAR? SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE FLUCTUATION IN YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT OPEN SPOTS. YEAH, I'M, I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF 'EM OFF HAND. YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY WANNA LOOK AT YOUR SALARIES AND BUDGET. A RETENTION PERCENTAGE OF WE'LL BE AT 75% OPERATING OR 80% OR, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT EXTRA AMOUNT IN THERE AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE THE, THE FUNDS RIGHT NOW TO DO SOME OF THESE DECISION PACKAGES. BECAUSE IF YOU LEAVE IT TO THE COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIND SEVEN $30,000 IN YOUR PACKAGES, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET MUCH. BUT I THINK YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE THE ROOM. OKAY, WE'LL DO SOME SHAVING AND HE MIGHT NOT BE SHAVING. AM I JUST BEING I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY SAYING, HE'S SAYING YOU MIGHT ALREADY BE THERE. YEAH. YOU, YEAH. I, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D SHAVE, BUT I'D LOOK AT SERIOUSLY WHAT MAKES UP THAT NUMBER AND GOHO SHORE UP THE BUDGET NUMBERS BECAUSE THE MONEY PROBABLY EXISTS WITHIN YOUR BUDGET TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. RIGHT. BUT BECAUSE OF ERRONEOUS DATA WITHIN YOUR SPREADSHEET, IT LOOKS POKEY MAKES SENSE. SO LIKE YOU SEE SAYING IF YOUR DECISION PACKAGE IS ALREADY 730 AND YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT BUILT INTO YOUR, OR MOST OF THAT'S BUILT INTO YOUR BUDGET ALREADY. 'CAUSE THAT'S COUNCIL, SO SO I'LL PUT PD ON THE LIST TO COME BACK AND REDO AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE NO, BUT I MEAN IT BE, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MORE, YOU KNOW, SALARIES AND OVERTIME AND DECISION PACKAGES AND STUFF AND LOOK REALLY CLOSELY AT LINE 5 35 ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS. YEAH. 'CAUSE THAT'S A BIG, I GET THAT ON MY NOTES PIECE OF IT. MS. JOHN TRIED, I MEAN THE TREND IS NOT CORRELATE TO WHERE YOU'RE PROJECTING. AND IF THAT'S OKAY IF WE'RE THERE, CAN WE LOOK AT OVERTIME ? YEP. BUT THEY ACTUALLY BROUGHT THEIR BASE DOWN FOR NEXT YEAR ON OVERTIME. WELL, SO, SO IN THE THEORY, IF YOU'RE FULL, YOU DON'T SPEND AS MUCH IN OVERTIME AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE OVERTIME. 'CAUSE WE HAVE IF THINGS AND EVENTS AND WHATEVER THAT LIKE THE HURRICANE WE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, ALL HANDS ON DECK KIND OF THING. BUT THAT'S PART, THAT'S PART OF THAT, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE MORE FUNDING IN YOUR REGULAR PAY 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT FILLED. YEAH. YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY IN OVERTIME. SO, WE'LL [07:15:01] AGAIN, WE WILL RE-LOOK THAT AND WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THE, THE, I MEAN I WROTE, I WROTE DOWN 2 0 5, 2 11 AND 5 35 THAT WE NEED TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT. WAY TO STEP UP AND TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM. CHRIS AND I, I I, I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING. UM, WELL AT LEAST ON HIS DAY OFF HE WORE BLUE. I MEAN, , IT'S NOT THE RIGHT BLUE, BUT IT'S THE BLUES NOT MIDNIGHT. I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA GET IN INTO THE BLUES WITH, WITH THAT BOSS AND CAMERON . ALRIGHT, THANKS CHRIS. GO AHEAD. YOU WANNA TALK ANIMAL CONTROL? ANIMAL CONTROL. I'M SORRY. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S PAGE 24 FOR THE COUNCIL. THERE WASN'T A WHOLE WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES. UM OKAY, GOOD. NO PACKAGES. WE GOT, UH, JUST TO GIVE Y'ALL AN UPDATE, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, REPURPOSE SOME AIR CONDITIONS FROM THE SERVICE CENTER THAT WERE STILL IN GOOD CONDITION BEFORE THEY DEMOED IT. UM, WOW. AND GET THEM MOVED OVER TO THE SHELTER. MM-HMM. , UM, FOR AN ADDITION AND ANGLETON SHEET METAL AT THE TIME OR DURING ALL THIS, THEY DONATED A MINI SPLIT SYSTEM, UM, TO PUT IN ONE OF THE, UH, ISOLATION ROOMS. UM, SO THEY, THEY DONATED THAT. UM, COOL. IT COOLS DOWN VERY NICELY NOW. UH, SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL KEEP HELP KEEP FROM JUST THE CONSTANT RUNNING. UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S DONE. SO WE SHOULD BE IN GOOD, GOOD SHAPE FOR A WHILE THERE. AS FAR AS THE AIR CONDITIONS, WELL, WE'LL SEE ABOUT THE DOORS. YEAH. NOTHING JUMPS OUT AT ME. UM, I MEAN, WE DID GO UP ON APPAREL JUST 'CAUSE OF THE COST OF IT. UM, AND THEY SEEM TO, THEY SEEM TO NEED REPLACEMENTS A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN THAN, THAN PATROLMEN. BUT I, I GUESS IT'S 'CAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MESSING WITH. UM, ON TOP OF JUST THE BLEACH ACCIDENTS, WHICH I'M NOT GETTING ONTO 'EM AS LONG AS THEY'RE CLEANING AND I'M, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY DISEASES COMING OUT OF THERE. I'LL, I'LL TAKE A, A BLEACH SPLATTER ON SOME JEANS. AND DO THEY HAVE, DO THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF OVERALL OR SOME SOMETHING THEY CAN USE TO, TO THEY, THEY'VE GOT LIKE THE, THE LONG APRON STUFF. UM, BUT I SHOULD KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMETHING MAYBE WE COULD INVEST IN THAT WOULD MAYBE SAVE I'LL, I'LL DO SOME CHECKING ON IT WHEN, YOU KNOW. I MEAN I'M, WE'RE NOT DOING A WHOLE LOT OF REPLACEMENTS ON THAT. MOST OF IT IS FROM THE FIELD. UM, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OF THOSE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY NOBODY WANTS TO WEAR A SLICKER SUIT. AND I MEAN, THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE AS FAR AS REGULAR WEAR IS WEARING POLYESTER. WELL, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT, IT IS HOT. YEAH. AS LONG AS IT'S BREATHABLE TO LOOK LIKE GHOST, BUT OKAY. WE WERE ABLE TO PRETTY MUCH, YEAH. STAY WHERE WE'RE AT. UM, DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANIMAL CONTROL? NOPE, BY FAR THE EASIEST ONE OF THE DAY. THANKS FOR SAVING IT FOR LAST. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THANK Y'ALL. AND WE WILL GET BACK ON THIS NEXT WEEK AND GIVE IT A REVISIT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU'ALL. YEP. THANK YOU. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. CHRIS, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE ADJOURN? NO, I'M, I'M WORN OUT. SAME. ALL RIGHT, WELL HEARING GO AHEAD. YOU SPENT THIS LAST TIME WE TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE WATER FUND AND MOVE IT OVER INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND STUFF, WHICH THAT MONEY THEN FUNDS STUFF THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WATER FUND RELATED, WHATEVER. [07:20:01] I'VE ALWAYS, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IF YOU REDUCED YOUR WATER, YOUR WATER RATES AND INCREASE AND, AND THROW IT INTO YOUR, UH, TAX RATE, YOU'D BE, UH, PEOPLE WOULD BE PAYING FOR STUFF, PAYING FOR MORE OF THE STUFF FOR IN THE CITY WITH THEIR AVALOR TAXES THAN THEY WOULD BE WITH THEIR WATER RATES. IT'S LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ROBBING FROM ONE FUND JUST BECAUSE IT'S THERE. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A, FROM OVERALL TAX STANDPOINT, IF THE MONEY OUTTA MY POCKET IS X EVERY YEAR, BUT I CAN CONTRIBUTE MORE OF MY THAT X TOWARDS AND UH, AS DEDUCT DEDUCTION IN MY INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE AND I, I WOULD OPT FOR THAT AND WE'LL PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH MY WATER BILL. BUT IF I CAN CUT IT IN HALF AND TAKE, PUT HALF INTO MY AVALOR TAXES, I CAN DEDUCT, I CAN DEDUCT THAT OFF MY TAXES. BUT I CAN'T DEDUCT ANYTHING OFF MY WATER BILL. BUT I'M PAYING FOR THE SAME STUFF WITH MY WATER BILL THAT I WILL BE PAYING FOR WITH MY TAXES. I DUNNO IF STATUTORILY WE HAVE ANY OPTION THERE. IT'S JUST BEEN A WAY TO GENERATE MONEY. SO FELLOW, WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER? I HIRED THE TAX BILL TO BE A LITTLE BIT MINUSCULE AMOUNT OF TAX INCREASE THAT YOU CAN DEDUCT AND AT THE SAME TIME, MAYBE LOWER THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE WATER BILLS THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING. I, I REALLY THINK IT'S JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION. YOU JUST CHANGE YOUR TRANSFER, THROW IT OUT OR WHATEVER. OKAY. YOU GOTTA, THESE DAYS YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE SALES TAXES, THE WILD CARD. MM-HMM. , UH, PROPERTY TAX, YOU CAN ONLY GO UP TO THE MAX OF THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. YEAH. SO DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR EXPENSES ARE, YOU KNOW, THE WATER FUNDS RUN AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, THEY, I WOULD, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY YOU COULDN'T DO IS YOU DO HAVE WATER USERS THAT ARE NOT INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS WHO DO NOT PAY PROPERTY TAX. SO THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A CAVEAT FOR THAT. MM-HMM. . BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RULES ARE FROM AN AUDIT STANDPOINT AGAINST THE ENTERPRISE FUND BEING RUN OUT OF THE PROPERTY TAX. UM, SIDE IS, THAT'S SOMETHING I, I GUESS I'D HAVE TO UNDERSTAND. YEAH. 'CAUSE I MEAN, SOME CITIES RUN THEIR WASTE COLLECTIONS, THEIR WATER, THERE'S OTHER ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT THEY USE. WE JUST HAPPEN TO ONLY USE THE WATERFRONT AS OUR ENTERPRISE. I THINK THEY'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO KEEP IT SEPARATE. 'CAUSE IT'S A STANDALONE, UM, BILL, DO YOU KNOW, YOU CAN RUN THE WATER AND SARAH OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. UM, BUT LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S SEPARATED BECAUSE THE, IT'S MORE OF A BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITY AND YOU'RE, YOU CAN MATCH YOUR REVENUES AND EXPENSES IN THE WATER FUND, YOU KNOW, THE WATER AND SEWER RELATED REVENUES AND EXPENSES EASIER THAN YOU CAN GET 'EM ALL ALONE INTO ONE BIG FUND. BUT IT DOES BEG THE QUESTION OF WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO MOVE MONEY TO THE GENERAL FUND? WHAT ARE WE SUPPORTING IN THE GENERAL FUND, UM, ALLOCATIONS OF STAFF? UH, IT, WELL, IT'S JUST GENERAL FUNDS. SO IT'S HOW, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY, THE MONEY COMES IN AS A TRANSFER, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, 600,000 OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT IT'S JUSTIFICATION, RIGHT. YOU'RE JUSTIFYING WHILE YOU'RE MOVING FROM THE WATER FUND OF THE GENERAL FUND, THERE'S AN AMOUNT. WHAT, WHAT NECESSITATES THAT AMOUNT? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY POLICY THAT SAYS THAT, DO WE? UH, THERE'S A SPREADSHEET I I USED TO CALCULATE THAT. I CAN SEND THAT OUT TO Y'ALL. BUT IT'S A PAYROLL BASICALLY ALLOCATION. [07:25:01] IT'S PAYROLL, IT'S, UH, BASED ON WORKLOAD FOR SUPPLIES AND THAT TYPE THING. SUPPORTING THE MANAGEMENT OF THE WATER FUND. YES. OKAY. YEP. SO, SO THEORETICALLY LIKE PHIL, MYSELF, RIGHT. SO SECRETARY, WHATEVER WE, WE ALL MANAGE STUFF IN, IN BOTH ACCOUNTS. SO THEORETICALLY OUR SALARIES OR, AND OR OPERATIONS AT LEAST SHOULD BE WELL I AGREE TO THAT PROVIDED BY THAT. BUT WHAT I'M THINKING IS TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE WATER FUND. YEAH. AND GO GIVE IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING. OR JUST TAKE WATER OUTTA THE WATER OUTTA THE POND AND GO BUILD A STREET WITH IT. WELL, PEOPLE WEREN'T PAYING THEIR WATER BILL TO GET A POTHOLE FIXED. THEY UNDERSTAND ALL ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT. BUT YOU, YOU CAN ALSO DO, I MEAN, CITIES DO OTHER THINGS TOO. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, A DOLLAR PER MONTH PER ACCOUNT ADDITIONAL, AND THAT GOES TOWARDS STREET FUND. AND SO WHEN THAT MONEY COMES IN, THEN THE STREET FUND AND THE GENERAL FUND GETS FUNDED THAT MONEY AND YOU USE IT FOR STREET REPAIRS OR SOMETHING. WE USED TO HAVE A STREET FUND, DIDN'T WE? WE DID. MM-HMM. UNTIL THEY VOTED IT OUT. AND, AND PEOPLE HAVE DRAINAGE FUNDS, CITIES HAVE DRAINAGE FUNDS. I MEAN THERE'S, AGAIN, I'M SURE THERE'S LEGAL THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT, BUT THAT'S HOW SOME OF THOSE THINGS GET FUNDED. UM, AGAIN, THROUGH, THROUGH THE WATER BILL. SO YOU CAN GET YOUR WATER BILL AND IT'S A HUNDRED BUCKS. AND SO IT'S GOT THE, JUST LIKE THE VOLUNTARY DEDUCTIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, EMS OR FIRE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR DOLLAR ROAD FEE AND YOU HAVE YOUR DOLLAR DRAINAGE FEE AND YOU HAVE YOUR WHATEVER. AND THEN WE AS THE CITY SHOULD BE SPENDING THAT MONEY ON WHAT STREET PROJECTS OR DRAINAGE PROJECTS OR WHATEVER. IT'S COLLEGE STATION HAS A STORMER FUND AND A, A ROAD ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND THAT COMES WITH THE WATER BILL EVERY MONTH. MM-HMM. . AND YOU DON'T GET, THERE'S NO OPTION . RIGHT. BUT THEY'LL COME CUT YOUR WATER OFF. MM-HMM, . OKAY, WELL JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. SO THE NEXT BUDGET INTERVIEW ON THE 13TH, UH, WE WILL DO SOME UPDATES BASED ON QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAD ABOUT STUFF. AND THEN WE'LL HIT, I'LL CALL IT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WHICH ARE NOT AS BIG AND OR AS COMPLICATED. AND SOMEONE WILL TAKE 10 MINUTES AND SOMEONE WILL, WHATEVER. AND THEN WHAT WE DON'T GET ACCOMPLISHED, WE'LL HAVE TO FIND SOME TIME TO MOVE 'EM TO ANOTHER AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE TAX RATE AND ALL THAT ADOPTING THE TAX RATE AND ALL THAT STUFF. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. SO ANYBODY, ANYTHING ELSE? NO, WE WILL ADJOURN AT 4 21 27 SECONDS. 27 SECONDS. COULDN'T SEE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.