Sep 10, 2024 City Council

I'M GOING TO SAY FOUR FIVE.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

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WE WILL HAVE A QUORUM CALL TO ORDER AND BEGIN THIS MEETING WITH A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IF COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTS WILL LEAD US.

AND, COUNCILMAN BOOTH, IF YOU'LL PLEASE LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.

LET'S PRAY. LORD GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE FOR US.

YOUR LOVING KINDNESS EXTENDS BEYOND WHAT WE CAN IMAGINE.

FATHER GOD, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

SERVE YOU, TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AS YOU LEAD, GUIDE AND DIRECT US TONIGHT AS WE GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS.

FATHER. DRAW US ALL CLOSER TOGETHER.

FATHER, WE PRAY FOR COMING UP TOMORROW, THE DAY OF REMEMBRANCE OF NINE OVER 11.

FATHER GOD, JUST BE A BE AN EXTRA BLESSING TO THOSE WHO HAVE SEVERE AND MENTAL ANGUISH OVER LOSS OF LOVED ONES.

FATHER DRAWS CLOSE TO YOU.

IN CHRIST NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE WORKSHOP, AND WE WILL HAVE NUMBER ONE STAFF REPORTS WILL

[1. Discussion on crime trends and speeding.]

I SEE CHIEF IN THE CROWD.

GOOD EVENING. CAN WE GET SOMEBODY ELSE? I'M LOOKING. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE.

I'M OKAY. GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.

IT SEEMED LIKE IT TOOK ME FIVE WEEKS TO GET ALL THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER, AND IT'S LIKE HALF A PAGE, BUT NUMBERS ARE NUMBERS, SO IT'S KIND OF WANT TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH PD AT THIS POINT.

I THINK WE HAVE FOUR OPENINGS THAT ARE BETTER THAN MOST, BUT STILL NOT GREAT.

WE HAVE THREE ATTORNEYS AND THEY'RE DOING GOOD SO FAR.

SO YOU'RE DOING ALL RIGHT OUT THERE.

JUST KIND OF WANT TO GO OVER SOME STATS AND BASICALLY THAT'S ALL THIS IS ALL WHAT THIS IS, IS STATS.

IN JUNE, WE WERE DISPATCHED TO 8763 CALLS, WITH 8079 OF THOSE BEING THE PD. THE REST FIRE, EMS, AND SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS IN JULY WE HAD.

THEY TOOK 8602 CALLS.

7708 OF THOSE WERE PD RELATED.

AND INSIDE THE CITY.

AUGUST WE TRIMMED IT UP.

HOWEVER, WE COULDN'T GET THE CORRECT NUMBERS BECAUSE RECALL IN AUGUST WHAT WE DID WAS WE WE TRANSFORMED TO THE NEW RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS QUITE RIGHT YET.

BUT THEY'RE GETTING THERE.

SOME OF THE. SOME OF THE REPORTS WERE HAVING TO GO THROUGH AND FIND THE DIFFERENT KIND OF REPORTS LIKE THIS IS RESPONSE TIMES, AND THEY'RE COMING OUT BETTER, BUT IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THE SYSTEM AND GETTING THROUGH THAT AS WELL.

SPEAKING OF THE SYSTEM WE DID GET TODAY, CHIEF, FIRE CHIEF AND EMS. WE GOT A CONTRACT FOR THE AMOUNTS OF BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, FIRE AND EMS ARE NOT ON THE SYSTEM YET.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

SO THEY THEY'VE CHOSEN TO DO SOMETHING CALLED FIELD OPS.

AND RIGHT NOW, I CAN GET ON MY CELL PHONE AND FIND OUT, BECAUSE 99,000 PEOPLE CALL ME ALL THE TIME TO HEAR SIRENS.

HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON IN TOWN? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW, THEY SAID SOMETHING MAJOR.

THEY DON'T NOTIFY US.

SO I'LL LOOK UP MY CELL PHONE NOW.

IT'S GOT AN APP IN THE APP.

WILL LET ME KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMS IS GOING TO.

BUT WE DID GET THE CONTRACT IN TODAY BEFORE I CAME OVER FOR THE NUMBERS.

SO GET YOUR MONEY READY, CHIEF.

WE'RE CHARGING YOU MORE.

JUST LET YOU KNOW. RESPONSE TIMES FOR ALL THOSE CALLS FOR PRIORITY ONE CALLS IN JUNE, WE WERE AT THREE MINUTES, 11 SECONDS ON AVERAGE FOR THE MONTH IN JULY.

THREE MINUTES AND 57 SECONDS IN AUGUST WITH THE NEW REPORT.

AND WE DID GET THIS OUT OF THE SYSTEM.

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THAT'S FOR PRIORITY ONE CALLS.

PRIORITY ONE MEANS EMERGENCY CALLS.

SO ANYTHING THAT EMERGENCY THAT'S THAT'S A REALLY GOOD RESPONSE TIME FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE AND THE CITY AS BIG AS WE ARE AND GROWING LIKE WE ARE.

SO THOSE RESPONSE TIMES ARE REALLY GOOD.

WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE ON HERE? THE CRIME TRENDS.

I ATTACHED THE AVERAGE REPORT.

NIBRS IS NATIONAL INCIDENT-BASED REPORTING SYSTEM.

I ATTACHED THIS REPORT IN YOUR PACKET BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WHEN YOU GET THE REPORT, IT SAYS GROUP A OFFENSES AND GROUP B OFFENSES, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. SO NOW YOU HAVE THE DEFINITIONS OF WHAT THEY ARE.

SO WE'RE STILL SEEING A HIGH AMOUNT OF ASSAULTS.

A LOT OF FAMILY VIOLENCE, A LOT OF FAMILY VIOLENCE INSIDE THE CITY.

WE TRY TO WORK WITH OUR PSM AID AND TO TRY TO DO SOME COUNSELING WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILY VIOLENCE, A LOT OF ASSAULTS.

THAT IS THAT IN ONE AREA OR ARE YOU SEEING IT? NO, SIR. IT'S ACROSS THE CITY.

IT'S ACROSS THE CITY.

ACROSS THE CITY. EVERYBODY HAS FAMILY PROBLEMS. SO IT'S NOT JUST IN ONE AREA, AND IT'S NOT JUST INVOLVING ALCOHOL.

THERE'S SOME INVOLVED. ALCOHOL, YOU KNOW, SO I SEE IT ACROSS THE COUNTY, BUT JUST IT'S NOT JUST ANGLETON.

SO. CORRECT. AND I DO SEEM, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S SOME STRANGE CORRELATION ON SUNDAYS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S KIDS GETTING BACK TO FAMILIES, OR I'LL CALL THEM PARTIES, I DON'T KNOW.

CALL THEM BACK TO WORK ON MONDAYS, I DON'T KNOW.

JUST ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE A.

HI. YEAH.

HI. COUNT ON SUNDAYS.

IT'S OUT THERE, AND WE HAVE OUR SHARE INSIDE THE CITY.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR SHARE OF THEFTS, ASSAULTS, THEFTS AND FRAUD.

OUR TOP CRIMES THAT WE HAVE INSIDE THE CITY.

THEFTS. I MEAN, WHY WOULD YOU? I DON'T I'M NOT GOING TO BE CRITICAL, BUT I WILL BE CRITICAL.

IF YOU HAVE A GUN AND YOU LEAVE IT IN YOUR CAR AND YOU PARK IT IN A DRIVEWAY AND IT'S THERE OVERNIGHT, UNLOCKED.

I MEAN, TO ME, YOU SHOULD.

YOU SHOULDN'T LEAVE THAT IN THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE IN OUR PROFESSION, WE CALL IT OWNER ASSISTED THEFT BECAUSE THESE KIDS GO AROUND.

I SEE KIDS, YOU KNOW, TEENAGERS, THEY DO WHAT'S CALLED FLIPPING.

THEY'LL FLIP YOUR CAR DOOR TO SEE IF IT'S OPEN, AND THEN THEY'LL OPEN THE CAR DOOR AND TAKE WHATEVER'S IN YOUR HAND IF IT'S A GUN OR WHATEVER.

WE'VE ALSO HAD I KNOW YOU SAW THE RECENT JUGGING INCIDENT, THE JUGGING.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, THEY FOLLOW PEOPLE TO THE BANKS AND THEY SEE SOMEBODY GET LIKE THIS LATEST ONE.

HE GOT $12,000 CASH OUT, WENT INTO TACO BELL, CAME OUT AND HIS MONEY WAS GONE.

THE BUSTED MONEY GONE. SO THAT'S GOING ON AS WELL.

HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE YOU HAD IN ANGLETON? ABOUT FOUR IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

ONE MONTH IN THE LAST EIGHT OF LAST YEAR.

OKAY. AND TWO OF THEM, TWO OF THEM WEREN'T REPORTED THAT WE TRIED TO GET REPORTED, BUT THEY DIDN'T REPORT.

DIDN'T WANT TO REPORT.

SO. YOU TALK ABOUT THE BLACK HAT FOR A MINUTE.

THE BLACK HAT WAS ON THE ROAD, SO WE TOOK IT OFF OF BUKTA, AND HE'S DOWNLOADING THAT INFORMATION, SO GO ON.

ANYWAY, AGAIN, PROBABLY BY THE END OF THE WEEK AS PER YOUR REQUEST.

SO AND THERE'S A LIST WEST BRONCO BAND IS NEXT ON THE LIST.

WIMBERLEY, SOUTH WALKER, NORTH VALDEZ, NORTHRIDGE.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS SO FAR.

AND BY LISTENING, IF YOU WANT TO GET ON THAT LIST, GET ON ANGLETON PD NET AND YOU CAN GET ON THE LIST TO HAVE THAT BLACK CAT PUT IN ON YOUR ON YOUR STREET.

I HAVE A REQUEST FOR TWO.

OKAY. CANON.

SO CANON IS ONE OF THEM KIND OF CLOSE TO THE TINSLEY INTERSECTION.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN OFF OF A I THINK IT'S SOUTH SIDE DRIVE IS THE ONE THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH, THEY GOT THE NEW STREET.

YOU SAY PEOPLE ARE FLYING DOWN THERE? YES, SIR. AND THEY'RE WELCOME TO USE MY DRIVEWAY.

YEAH. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH CANNON IS THAT THE DEVICE HAS TO BE PUT ON SOMETHING RIGHT AND HARD TO FIND.

I THINK THAT INTERSECTION AT TINSLEY HAS A LIGHT POLE THERE, SO WE COULD PUT IT THERE.

OKAY. YEAH, THERE'S ONE ACROSS THE STREET TOO.

YEAH. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THAT BLACK CAT IS A NEWER BLACK CAT THAT WAS PURCHASED WITH SEIZURE FUNDS.

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SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE BLACK CATS ARE THEY'RE GOOD DEVICES BECAUSE THEY GIVE YOU THE TRUE SPEED IF PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING OR IF THEY'RE NOT SPEEDING BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A POLICE CAR THERE, THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER DETERRENT THERE.

IT'S JUST CORRECT.

IT JUST LOOKS LIKE IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHOW IT TO YOU.

IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A GAME CAMERA, BASICALLY.

AND IT GOES UP AND IT CATCHES TRAFFIC BOTH WAYS AND IT GETS UP TO FOUR WAY.

SOME OTHER THINGS.

THANKS TO MICHELLE AND HER CREW AT MUNICIPAL COURT WE GOT THE TRAFFIC CITATIONS FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS, FROM JUNE 1ST TO AUGUST 31ST, THERE WERE 787 CITATIONS ISSUED.

THAT DOESN'T COUNT WARNINGS, BUT 787 CITATION ISSUED.

AND OUT OF THOSE, 250 OF THEM, OR ABOUT 31% WERE SPEEDING.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SPEEDING, LET'S TALK ABOUT CRASHES.

WE HAVE LOTS OF CRASHES INSIDE THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED LATELY, BUT IF YOU GET OUT ABOUT 5:00 OR YOU GET OUT ABOUT 8:00 IN THE MORNING, THERE'S A LOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE FROM MY OFFICE JUST FROM WHEN I'VE BEEN THERE.

JUST WHEN I STARTED TO.

NOW, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP, YOU KNOW, NOT COUNTING WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE, NOT ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

SO IN JUNE, WE HAD 63 CRASHES IN THE CITY.

JULY, WE HAD 114 CRASHES IN THE CITY.

WOW. IN AUGUST, WE HAD 91.

THOSE ARE REPORTED CRASHES.

THIS ALL COMES OFF THE CRASHES IN THE STATE.

CRASHES? AND THOSE ARE REPORTED CRASHES.

IS THAT STRICTLY? WELL, NOT STRICTLY, BUT PRIMARILY ALONG THE STATE HIGHWAYS.

VELASCO. IT'S ALL OVER TOWN.

BUT IS THAT WHERE WE.

WHERE IF WE HAD A HEAT MAP WHERE MOST OF OUR CRASHES ARE OCCURRING AT THE LOOP.

AND STATE HIGHWAY.

STATE ROAD. THE LOOP.

WALMART. WALMART.

EVERYBODY GOES TO WALMART.

SO CANON AND TO ANDERSON, TO 288.

THE LIVED IN 35.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CRASHES ON THE FREEWAY.

JUST PEOPLE RUNNING INTO GUARDRAIL.

I MEAN, YOU DRIVE DOWN THERE AND YOU SEE GUARDRAIL.

YOU SEE, WHEN THEY HAVE A NEW ONE HERE THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK, IT'S GONE.

YEAH, BECAUSE SOMEBODY RAN INTO IT.

SO BUT OUT OF THE 63IN JUNE, 30 HAVE HAD SPEED RELATED TO TO THE CRASH.

OUT OF THE 114 IN JULY 29TH AT SPEED THAT WAS ATTRIBUTED TO THE CRASH AND ANOTHER 91 IN AUGUST 35TH AT SPEED RELATED TO THE CRASH AS WELL.

SO. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE A BUNCH OF STATS.

THAT'S HOW WE DRIVE STUFF.

WE DRIVE STATS.

I MEAN, WE RUN OFF THE STATS AND I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I LASTED LONGER THAN I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE UP HERE.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY INSTANCES AT THE SOUTH? THE SOUTH END OF THE RAILROAD OVERPASS ON BUSINESS 28.

THAT'S ANOTHER HIGH CRASH AREA.

WE'RE CONSTANTLY CALLING OVER TO JASON AND TO IT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CAMERA ON THE FRONT OF THE THAT THAT CATCHES THAT.

YES. TRAINS. TRAINS ARE THERE CONSTANTLY.

AND PEOPLE ARE COMING UNDERNEATH THE OVERPASS AND THEY'RE MAKING A U-TURN, AND THEY RUN RIGHT IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY AND GET HIT.

COMING TO THE PEOPLE COMING OVER THE OVERPASS.

YES, SIR. IT'S ANOTHER HIGH AREA.

WE HAVE TALKED TO TEXDOT ABOUT THAT.

THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN DO ANYTHING, AND IT'S IN THE IT'S IN THE QUEUE.

BUT I THINK I'VE SAID SOMETHING TO COUNCIL BEFORE.

MAYOR, I THINK YOU'RE WRONG. IS TO PUT MEDIANS DOWN THAT CENTER TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM JUMPING OVER.

BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES FOR THE STATE TO GET THAT ON THE, ON THEIR, ON THEIR RADAR.

YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY THE RIGHT PERSON HADN'T BEEN HURT.

BUT. YES, SIR.

THERE'S A LOT OF CRASHES HERE.

YOU HAD A QUESTION? YEAH, I WAS JUST DOING THE MATH.

ROUGHLY 80,000 ENCOUNTERS.

IS THAT FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE? 8079, JUST FOR PD? YEAH, I WAS JUST. I MEAN, THAT'S 266 A DAY.

200 AND 60S A LOT THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.

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SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS AT THE PD IS SINCE WE HAVE, WE'VE ADDED A DETECTIVE.

WE TOOK A DETECTIVE AND ADDED ANOTHER DETECTIVE BACK THERE.

SO TO KEEP PEOPLE ON THE STREET, WE NOW HAVE A DETECTIVE THAT STAYS IN THE OFFICE AND TAKES OFF HIS CALLS.

SO FOLKS DON'T HAVE TO COME INSIDE TO PD SO THEY CAN BE OUT ON THE STREET.

I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU.

WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, BUT I FIGURED SOME.

LET'S PUT IT OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY.

THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT'S SPENT ON OFFICERS PATROLLING.

SINCE WE'RE DATA DRIVEN, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE TIME WE SPEND ON THE HIGHWAY AND THE TIME WE SPEND IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I GET QUESTIONED THE MOST, IS PEOPLE APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENFORCE SPEED ON THE HIGHWAY AND EVERYTHING.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENINGS AND AT NIGHT, THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE OFFICERS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND HOW DO WE, COMMUNITY POLICING, MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE'S OFFICERS THAT ARE PATROLLING THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THEY DON'T ALWAYS SEE THEM, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE SLEEPING MOST OF THE TIME.

CORRECT. BUT HOW DO WE GET THAT MESSAGE OUT? AND THEN DATA DRIVEN, HOW DO WE SHOW THAT ONE WAY THAT THAT I'VE TRIED TO.

EXACTLY WHERE RITCHIE IS.

I DO SOMETHING WHAT'S CALLED HIGH VISIBILITY POLICING.

SO IF YOU SEE HIM AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN HIM IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR ASK PEOPLE IF THEY SEE HIM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY DRIVE THROUGH WITH THEIR CRUISE LIGHTS ON SO THEY'LL KNOW THAT IT'S A POLICE OFFICER COMING THROUGH THE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE THE HIGHWAY VERSUS THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.

WE HAVE BICYCLES, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMEBODY TO TO GO TO TRAINING TO GET ON THOSE BICYCLES BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T RIDE A BIKE.

WE USED TO HAVE PEOPLE TRAINED.

I REMEMBER THAT THEY'RE GONE.

SO. BUT WE STILL HAVE THE BICYCLES AND TO GET THEM OUT THERE.

BUT I CAN REST ASSURE YOU, I CAN ASSURE YOU AND COUNCIL THAT WHEN THEY'RE ON THE HIGHWAY, THEY'RE INSIDE OF HERE, TOO.

AND WHAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE HIGHWAY VERSUS THE CITY IS LOOK AT THE CRASHES.

I CAN GET STATISTICS AS FAR AS LOCATIONS OR CRASHES, BUT SAME THING OUT THERE.

I MEAN. OVER THE WEEKEND, OVER THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND, IT WAS A TASK FORCE WITH DPS, AND I SENT THE STATS TO THE CITY MANAGER, 780 SOMETHING TRAFFIC CITATIONS WRITTEN 11 DWI ARRESTS.

NOW, THIS IS NOT JUST THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

THIS IS FROM OUR COLONY ALL THE WAY TO SURFSIDE BEACH.

521 523 288 BUSINESS.

288 FREEWAY.

HOWEVER, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS THERE WERE NO CITATIONS.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY, NO FATALITIES.

NO FATALITIES.

AND THAT'S ALWAYS OUR GOAL IS SAFETY.

THERE WERE NO FATALITIES IN THE COUNTY THAT WEEKEND.

SO THAT WAS A GOOD THING THAT CAME OUT OF IT.

AND YEAH, PEOPLE GOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TODAY, AND THERE'S COPS EVERYWHERE.

THEY SURE ARE. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SAY, WELL, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? WHY ARE THEY DOING THAT? ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT.

ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS WEAR YOUR SEATBELT.

DRIVE IN YOUR LANE.

DON'T GET RECKLESS IF YOU FOLLOW THE LAW.

THE POLICE AIN'T GOING TO GET BEHIND YOU AND PULL YOU OVER.

JUST DO THE SPEED LIMIT. YES, SIR.

WE'RE OUT THERE. YES, MA'AM.

WE'RE OUT THERE. ABSOLUTELY WE ARE.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, I GUESS, 20 BUSINESS FROM TINSLEY TO VALDEZ.

YOU DO HAVE THE DIVIDED HIGHWAYS SECTIONS, THE MEDIANS, AND SO ANY ANY, I GUESS TALKING TO TXDOT ABOUT IMPROVING THAT.

OR ARE YOU ALL HAPPY WITH WHERE YOU HAVE THE TURNAROUNDS ON THAT? WE DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT IN THAT, SIR.

IT'S ALL DRIVEN BY ALL THESE STATS THAT GO IN THERE.

THAT'S ALL TXDOT, BUT WE CAN TELL.

WE CAN ASK THEM.

BUSINESSES CAN TALK TO YOU, BUT YOU BUT YOU HAVE A CRASH RECORD OR ANY OF THOSE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SOUND? YES, BUT NOT NOT A LOT, I CAN TELL YOU, SINCE THE MEDIAN HAS BEEN THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE MEDIAN.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THE MEDIAN.

YEAH, THE MEDIAN DOES STOP CRASHES.

IT IS INCONVENIENT.

IT'S INCONVENIENT AS HECK.

I GET IT. BUT WOULD YOU RATHER BE INCONVENIENT AND INCONVENIENT TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE AWAY, OR BEING INCONVENIENT AND BEING HAULED AWAY ON THE AMBULANCE? OR WORSE YET, A BODYGUARD GOING TO MEET YOU BECAUSE THERE WAS A FATALITY OUT THERE IN FRONT OF WHAT SECTION ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? DO WHAT? WHAT AREA WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I THINK YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TO NOT CANNON.

OKAY, WILKINS TO CANNON, WHERE YOU HAVE ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND STUFF.

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YEAH. THE WORST INTERSECTION THERE TO ME IS ONE BY O'HARA.

IT'S THE WORST. CLEMENTS COMING OUT OF THERE.

YOU'RE COMING OUT AND THERE'S TWO TURN LANES COMING IN TO CLEMENTS.

THERE'S SOMEBODY IN ONE OR BOTH LANES AND THERE'S AND LIKE I SAID THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

IT'S HARD FOR SOMEBODY TO COME ACROSS THERE, YOU KNOW? TO ME, IT OUGHT TO BE. YOU TURN TO THE RIGHT ONLY LIKE WE DO AT THE FREEDOM FIREWORKS.

GOOD IDEA. TO THE RIGHT.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, TXDOT CONTROLS THOSE THOSE INTERSECTIONS AND CONTROLS THE TRAFFIC CONTROL OUT THERE.

YOU BRING UP THAT TASK FORCE.

I MEANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT IT EARLIER.

WHAT IS A SEAT BELT ARREST? SDBS. I DON'T I'LL HAVE TO ASK DPS.

BUT I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE YOU GOT. MAYBE SOMEBODY GOT ARRESTED BECAUSE THAT WAS WHY THEY GOT PULLED OVER.

WE DIDN'T DO IT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF MICHELLE CAN ELABORATE ON NUMBERS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHILE THAT TASK FORCE WAS IN PLACE, ANYTIME DPS WAS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, EVERY CITATION THEY WROTE CAME TO MUNICIPAL COURT.

SO. IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

THEY USED TO BE COMMON, REMEMBER? IT USED TO BE, BUT THEY DID.

THEY DID. HAVE THEY CHECKED THEIR BIG LIST AND THEY HAD ANGLETON MUNICIPAL COURT IN THERE.

SO EVERY CITATION INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS THAT THEY WROTE CAME TO THE CITY.

AND FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, EVERY TIME YOU GET STOPPED AND YOU GET A TICKET, IT'S CONSIDERED AN ARREST.

SO, OKAY, IT'S AN ARREST.

YOU SIGN THE CITATION AND MAKE A PROMISE TO APPEAR.

YEAH, THAT'S YOUR BOND.

IF YOU DON'T SIGN AND IF YOU DON'T SIGN, YOU WILL BE TAKEN INTO CUSTODY.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A SEATBELT CITATION, BUT WHEN IT SAID SEATBELT ARREST, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THAT.

I SAW THAT TOO, MAYOR, AND I DIDN'T.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WAS EITHER.

IT COMES FROM DPS.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, SINCE, YOU KNOW, IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THIS IS FOR, IS YOU SHARE DATA AND THEN WE KIND OF TALK ABOUT YOUR DEPARTMENT OF WHAT YOU'RE NEEDING.

YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT IN BUDGET, BUT ARE YOU SEEING ANY ISSUES WITH THE STAFFING, THE ARE YOU SEEING ISSUES WITH THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW? EQUIPMENT. I GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THAT IN BUDGET, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO COVER THAT YOU HAVEN'T YET.

I PRETTY MUCH COVERED IT MUCH.

IN BUDGET. BUT YES, WE DO SEE STUFF WITH STAFFING.

WE JUST LOST ONE PRECINCT, EIGHT COUNCIL DEPARTMENT.

IT'S BECAUSE HIS WIFE GOT A JOB UP THERE, BUT HE'S MAKING MORE MONEY.

HE'S AT ONE YEAR, A ONE YEAR OFFICER AND MAKING MORE MONEY AT PRECINCT EIGHT.

CONSTABLE'S OFFICE. YEAH.

THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S HARD TO COMPETE AGAINST HARRIS COUNTY.

RIGHT. IT'S HARD TO COMPETE AGAINST HARRIS COUNTY.

BUT YOU'RE ONLY DOWN ONE HEADCOUNT, SIR.

YOU'RE ONLY DOWN ONE HEADCOUNT RIGHT NOW.

NO, 404.

WE'RE DOWN FOUR. OKAY.

WITH A COUPLE MORE THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING SOMEWHERE.

YOU'LL SEE SOME MOVEMENT WITH THE IN JANUARY, WITH THE ELECTIONS, WHEN WE GET A NEW COUNCIL AND YOU GET COUNCIL, PEOPLE THAT MOVE AROUND GOSPEL'S JOB IS THE ONE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PRETTY COMPETITIVE AND PAY YOU WELL.

BUT AS FAR AS THE BUILDING, WE OUTGREW THAT BUILDING A LONG TIME AGO, BEFORE I, BEFORE I WAS 18, WE OUTGREW THAT BUILDING.

WE HAD THREE DETECTIVES SHARING.

ONE OFFICE. USED TO BE IT.

WE HAVE A CRIME VICTIMS PERSON IN THAT.

SOMETHING I FORGOT TO PUT IN HERE.

WE DID GET TO THE GRANT.

WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANT FOR THE CRIME VICTIMS PERSON FROM THE STATE.

SO WE'RE ONE OF THE SMALLER CITIES THAT HAD THE CRIME VICTIMS PERSON.

AND WHEN WE WENT TO THE MEETINGS, I DIDN'T GO.

BUT WHEN THE ADMIN WENT TO THE MEETINGS ABOUT THE GRANTS, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE PROBABLY WEREN'T GOING TO BE FUNDED.

BUT THAT JUST SHOWS YOU THAT JOE LEE, WHO'S IN THERE NOW, IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB IN CONTACTING VICTIMS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HER DOING IS YOU GET A THEFT OR YOU GET SOMETHING.

ONE OF THE BIG COMPLAINTS THAT I GOT WAS I REPORTED SOMETHING TO THE POLICE, AND I HAVEN'T GOT A I HAVEN'T GOT A CALL FROM ANYBODY.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO MY DETECTIVE IS.

OKAY. SO WHAT JOE LEE DOES IS SHE GOES THROUGH EVERY DAY AND SHE GOES THROUGH THE, THE REPORTS AND ANYBODY THAT'S ASSIGNED A CASE TO GO THROUGH AND READ THE REPORT. AND IF A DETECTIVE IS ASSIGNED TO THAT CASE, SHE WILL CALL THAT PERSON AND TELL THEM DETECTIVE WHITE IS ASSIGNED YOUR CASE, OR DETECTIVE SO-AND-SO IS ASSIGNED YOUR CASE.

SO NOW THOSE PEOPLE KNOW WHO TO CALL WHENEVER THERE IS A DETECTIVE ASSIGNED TO THEIR CASE, BECAUSE THOSE DETECTIVES HAVE A HEAVY CASELOAD AND THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO

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BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HELPED AND HELPED THE VICTIMS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, IS TO HELP THE VICTIMS, IS LETTING THOSE VICTIMS KNOW THAT, YOU'RE NOT FORGOTTEN.

YOUR CASE IS ASSIGNED TO THIS PERSON, OR YOUR CASE IS ASSIGNED TO THIS PERSON, OR WAS ASSIGNED BACK TO THE PATROL OFFICER.

BUT THAT PART OF JODY'S JOB IS WHAT SHE DOES, AND SHE DOES A GREAT JOB.

HOW LONG HAS SHE BEEN ON STAFF? RIGHT. AT TWO YEARS.

TWO YEARS? OKAY.

WE HAD SOMEBODY ELSE BEFORE, RIGHT? YES, WE HAD VELMA.

VELMA. GUADIANA. YEAH, SHE.

SHE WAS IN VIETNAM AND CAME HERE.

YES. THE JODY'S ABOUT TO GO OUT ON ON MATERNITY LEAVE, SO.

GOOD. SHE ASKED ABOUT BUILDING, STAFFING.

ONE OTHER THING. EQUIPMENT.

EQUIPMENT. IT'S GETTING HIGHER.

GETTING HARDER TO BUY.

CARS. YOU APPROVED THREE CARS.

WE APPROVED. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR US.

YOU APPROVED THREE CARS.

WE THOUGHT WE HAD ONE TRUCK THAT LIVERPOOL DIDN'T HAVE.

THEY DIDN'T WANT IT WAS AT THE FORD DEALERSHIP, BUT IT HAD NO KEY FOB.

IT'S JUST THE KEY TO OPEN THE DOOR.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE WEAR GUNS TO WORK EVERY DAY, AND IT'S A IT'S A CRYING SHAME THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN A POLICE OFFICER SHOT NOW IT'S LIKE 4 OR 5 DOWN BEHIND HARRISON, TRUMP AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

BUT THE COPS DID.

IT'S A CRYING SHAME THAT THAT THAT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S NOT MAKING HEADLINES ANYMORE.

BUT THAT KEY FOB IS IMPORTANT AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ORDERED IT WITHOUT IT.

BUT WE TOLD THEM NO, WE DIDN'T WANT THAT BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THAT THEY KEY FOB IS IMPORTANT.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GETTING SHOT AT OR SOMEBODY'S CHASING YOU WITH A KNIFE OR WHATEVER, YOU NEED TO GET IN THAT CAR AND RETREAT, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE FUMBLING WITH THE KEY TO TRY TO GET IN THERE. BUT CARS ARE THEY'RE TERRIBLE.

IT'S JUST IT'S HARD TO THINK THAT WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND YOU CAN'T GET A POLICE CAR.

YOU HAVE TO GET IN ON IT.

I MEAN, THE GUY FROM ENTERPRISE WAS HERE.

YOU GOT TO GET IN AND PUT YOUR ORDER IN.

AND THEN A YEAR FROM THAT ORDER DATE, YOU'LL GET THEM.

THEN YOU HAVE TO ORDER YOUR EQUIPMENT.

AND THEN WHOEVER IS MAKING THE PARTS IN BANGLADESH OR WHEREVER THEY'RE MAKING THEM, THEY HAVE TO GET THEM HERE.

AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, 14, 18 MONTHS BEFORE YOU GET A CAR ON THE STREET.

SO, SO THE TIME WE PLACE THE ORDER IS GOING TO BE ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE YOU GET THOSE CARS.

ABSOLUTELY. NOW, UNLESS WE CAN FIND SOME, ARE THEY BEING OUTFITTED HERE LOCALLY OR ARE THEY BEING OUTFITTED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BROUGHT IN? NO, THEY'RE BEING OUTFITTED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THERE'S A PLACE IN PEARLAND CALLED MALL TECH.

OKAY. BUT STILL LOCAL FOR THE MOST PART.

YEAH, IT'S LOCAL AND WE PRICE THEM.

AND HE'S HE'S THE MOST COMPETITIVE BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF.

I MEAN, IF YOU WORK FOR THE COUNTY, YOU CAN GET WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT THEY GOT MORE LIGHTS ON THEM THAN A CHRISTMAS TREE.

IS THAT TRUE? TRAVIS, HIS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S PEOPLE, THEY HAVE ALL THESE THESE LIGHTS ON THERE.

HE MIGHT DRIVE. ONE OF THEM HAS LIGHTS ON IT, TOO.

I DON'T KNOW. IT'S NOT MY EXPERIENCE, BUT I'M NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT.

BUT, YEAH, THERE'S LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COMPETITION WITH WITH WITH WILLIE.

THERE'S A RUNNING JOKE THAT WILLIE STILL GOT MORE LIGHTS THAN YOU DO.

YEAH. HIS EQUIPMENT BUDGET IS LIKE $56,000 FOR ONE CAR.

FOR ONE CAR? WE DON'T GET THAT FOR THE CAR AND THE EQUIPMENT.

SO. BUT, YES, CARS ARE VERY HARD TO COME BY.

THERE'S A DODGE DURANGO THAT'S OUT THERE NOW.

OUR EXPERIENCE WITH DODGE'S IS HASN'T BEEN GOOD.

THEY HAVE NOT HELD UP AS FAR AS CITY DRIVING.

NOW THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE READILY AVAILABLE.

I THINK THE COUNTY, THEY FOUND SOMEBODY IN HOUSTON THAT HAD LIKE, 1023 TAHOES AND THEY BOUGHT THEM ALL.

SO THEY'RE ALL BEING DELIVERED OUT THERE, I THINK YESTERDAY OR THE DAY THAT THE COUNTY.

SO YEAH, THE BIG THE BIG THING NOW IS THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO HELP US TREMENDOUSLY IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT, A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, OR GETTING US ALL TOGETHER.

MS FIRE AND POLICE.

SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, AND WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING, AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL.

BUT WE THANK YOU FOR THE RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS AND WE JUST BARELY A MONTH INTO GOING LIVE.

BUT IT'S WORKING OUT GREAT.

ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE? I'M GOOD. COUNCILMAN SERGEANT GEAR REMAINED SILENT.

CAN WE READ THE REST OF THEM? I KNOW HIM WELL. ALL RIGHT.

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SO, CHIEF, ANYTHING CLOSING ARGUMENTS, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? NO, SIR. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY'S DONE FOR THE PD.

WE HAVE TO STAY COMPETITIVE.

WE DON'T STAY COMPETITIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE A LEARNING FACILITY WHERE PEOPLE COME HERE FOR A YEAR OR TWO, AND THEN THEY GET THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR US UP TO THIS POINT.

AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS.

APPRECIATE IT ALL. THANKS, CHIEF.

SO IF I COULD THROW SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT IS TO TRY TO FIND SOME BALANCE THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REALISTIC TO EXPECT TO TO MAINTAIN EVERYBODY, TO RETAIN EVERYBODY, BUT MAYBE LOOKING AT WAYS TO RETAIN THE ONES YOU WANT.

YES, THERE'S THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T.

IT'S JUST I'VE DONE GOVERNMENT WORK MY WHOLE LIFE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN EVERYBODY.

ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S TOO MANY OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PUBLIC PRIVATE SECTOR.

THERE'S PUBLIC ENTITIES COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER.

IT'S YOU GOT ALL SORTS OF OTHER DIFFERENT ISSUES, LIKE WHERE ARE THEY ORIGINALLY FROM? YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THEIR SPOUSES FROM? KIDS ISSUES.

IF THERE'S DEALING WITH SOME SORT OF THING, THEY NEED TO BE NEAR A CERTAIN FACILITY.

I MEAN, SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT JUST JUST THE REALITY.

BUT MAYBE LOOKING AT THE ONES YOU REALLY WANT TO RETAIN.

ABSOLUTELY. WHEN YOU GO TO THE SCHOOL, YOU GO TO THESE RECRUITING PLACES AND IT'S RECRUITING.

IT'S A BIG THING.

I MEAN, I HAVE A STUDY HERE FROM THE INTERNATIONAL POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION WHERE THEY HAVE A NEW MODEL NOW INSTEAD OF ONE FOR EVERY THOUSAND, THERE'S A YOU GO TO AND YOU USE THE STATS, YOU KNOW, TO ACCURATELY DETERMINE THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS NEEDED.

SO YOU USE STATS HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH ARE THEY WORKING? HOW MUCH ARE THEY NOT WORKING? WHAT ARE DAYS OFF? BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE TO COME TO WORK FOR YOU, OBVIOUSLY YOU GIVE THEM BENEFITS.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE DAYS OFF, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE VACATION.

WHAT'S OUR STAFFING LEVEL? YOU KNOW, SO WE CONSTANTLY MONITOR THAT AS WELL.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEWEST FAD AND IT'S NOT GOING AWAY IS POLICE DEPARTMENT OR EXCUSE ME, SCHOOL DISTRICT IS POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO WORKING FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES SUMMERS OFF THAT NORMAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD NEVER RECEIVE.

SO IT'S YOU'RE YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S COMPETITIVE IS MY POINT.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE CONSTABLES AND WE KNOW I MEAN, PEOPLE IN HERE MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW.

I MEAN, IN BRAZORIA COUNTY, IT'S NOT SIMILAR TO HARRIS.

HARRIS COUNTY CONSTABLES HAVE MORE OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT.

BRAZORIA COUNTY. IT'S MORE OF A CIVIL PROCESSING.

CORRECT. SO IT'S IT'S A MUCH DIFFERENT BURDEN IF YOU WILL, IN EXPECTATION.

SO. YEAH I CAN UNDERSTAND IT'S HARD TO COMPETE AGAINST YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY OFFERING AN 8 TO 5 NO WEEKENDS, NO OVERTIME.

YOU KNOW NO NO LATE NIGHT CALLS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE AT LEAST THREE OFFICERS THAT USED TO BE ISD OFFICERS THAT.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN'T I CAN'T DO IT POLITICALLY CORRECT.

BUT FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, BABYSITTING.

THEY WANTED TO BE COPS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO COME OUT AND GET IN THE WORLD AND BE A POLICE OFFICER.

AND IT GOES. YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PERSON'S LOOKING FOR.

RIGHT. CORRECT. NO, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

YEAH. SO YEAH. NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THEY PAY WELL. THEY PAY WELL AND THEY'RE FUNDED.

YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE BULLETPROOF SHIELDS.

THEY'RE GRANTS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

BUT YOU HAVE TO GET IN WITH ISD TO GET THEM.

SO THEY'RE FUNDING THEM.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO DOING A LOT OF UNFUNDED MANDATES, YOU KNOW, FOR ALERT TRAINING.

AND YOU GOT TO DO IT.

BUT YOU'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT TELLING YOU.

THEY LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS TO TO FUND THAT.

SO ONE OTHER THING ALSO, CHIEF, IS SAFETY OF OUR OFFICERS.

YOU KNOW, MORE OF A RISK MITIGATION.

ARE THEY ARE WE SEEING A LOT OF.

I GUESS THIS WOULD BE FOR COLLEEN AS WELL.

IS WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS? IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF KEEPING OUR OFFICERS WITHOUT MISS TIME, I GUESS.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ARE TRACKING, TRENDING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE HAVE ONE OF THE LOWEST RATES I'VE SEEN IN MY CAREER.

WHICH IS GREAT. KNOCK ON WOOD AND I HOPE WE CONTINUE.

BUT YES, WE DO TRACK THEM.

I TAKE STATISTICS AND KEEP A REPORT ON IT.

GOOD. YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AROUND THE PD WHEN YOU'VE HAD OFFICERS THAT HAVE HAD TO BE ON DESK DUTY AND SUCH BECAUSE THEY HAD SOMETHING HAPPEN OUT IN THE FIELD. SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S INCREASING OR IF THAT'S BEING MINIMIZED.

AND THAT'S ALSO GIVEN THE GIVING THEM THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED.

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IT DEESCALATES A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF.

PEOPLE FIGHT THE POLICE AT THE DROP OF A HAT.

WHEN I STARTED, IF YOU FOUGHT THE POLICE, YOU KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU AND YOU DIDN'T.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPENED BACK THEN.

NOW THEY FIGHT THE POLICE AT THE DROP OF A HAT.

AND I'M NOT DOING WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME TO DO STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S WHEN THE TRAINING AND THE DE-ESCALATION TRAINING COMES IN HANDY AND GET THE OFFICERS TO TRY TO DE-ESCALATE THOSE SITUATIONS SO WE CAN NOT HAVE INJURIES.

YEAH. JIU JITSU.

ALVARADO IS LIKE A JUJITSU KING, BUT HE'S GOOD.

AND I'VE WATCHED SOME OF THE VIDEOS AND IT WORKS.

DON'T FIGHT ALVARADO.

NOTED. WRITE THAT ONE DOWN.

ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. APPRECIATE IT.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, FOR OPENING THE MEETING FOR ME.

I GUESS WE WILL GO ON TO REGULAR MEETING.

CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL.

ANY PAPERS? ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

[2. Presentation of employee service award.]

COUNCIL, CAN YOU GO TO THE FRONT? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS EVENING WE RECOGNIZE JOSHUA WILEY.

JOSHUA HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR FIVE YEARS.

MOST OF HIS TIME HAS BEEN WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

HE IS NOW OUR NEW PURCHASING AGENT AND HE IS ALSO A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER.

CONGRATULATIONS. I'M STILL NOT.

EVEN GOING TO HELP. IT'S LIKE, WHO'S GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE? I HEARD, I HEARD THERE'S A LITTLE LAG IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW. OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES IT. YEAH.

THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT. BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WAS GOING TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A BOY SCOUT FROM TROOP 13, LEVI MCGUIRE. THANK YOU FOR BEING ATTENDANCE, WORKING ON YOUR NEXT BADGE, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SERVICE YOU JUST GAVE TO THE CITY IN THE LAST MONTH.

MOVING ON. TO DO WHAT? WHY DON'T YOU LET US KNOW WHAT THAT IS? YEAH. ELABORATE. SO THE FOLLOWING HURRICANE BARREL, THE BOY SCOUT TROOP 13 WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING MEGAN AND SOME OF THE STAFF GAVE US A LIST OF SENIORS AND PEOPLE THAT, WITH DISABILITIES, NEEDED THEIR YARDS CLEANED UP AFTER BARREL GETTING STUFF TO THE STREET, CLEANING THEM UP.

THE BOY SCOUTS TOOK IT ON, AND WITHIN A WEEK I WOULD SAY ALMOST 20 HOUSES WERE CLEARED.

YARDS. THAT GOES FROM FENCING SUPPLIES TO TREES BEING DOWN AND CUT UP TO MOVING THE YARD EQUIPMENT AND OTHER SUCH STUFF THAT THEY JUST COULDN'T GET OUT OF THE WAY.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, THE THE KIDS FOUND WHERE THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEED OF FOOD FROM THE SAME TWO ON ONE LIST THAT WE HAVE FROM THE CITY.

AND THEY DID A FOOD DRIVE IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS, I GUESS IT WAS.

AND FILLED OVER 12 SHOPPING CARTS AND BOXED AND SORTED AND RAISED MONEY FOR THE FOOD PANTRY ALL IN ONE DAY.

AND THEY DELIVERED, I THINK, ALMOST 26 HOUSES SO FAR AND FILLED UP THE FOOD PANTRY.

SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE ON THE FRONT HELPING WITH HURRICANE RECOVERY.

SO CONGRATS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DEFINITELY QUITE THE LIST.

YEAH. WELL DONE.

YEAH. IT IS AN ARMY.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

MAY 28TH, 2020 2024, JUNE 7TH, 2024 AND JUNE 11TH, 2024.

CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES AND ITEM NUMBER FOR DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20240910.

DASH 004.

DECLARING PROPERTY SALVAGE AND AUTHORIZING THE DISPOSAL OF CERTAIN ITEMS OF SALVAGED PROPERTY.

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SECOND MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

REGULAR AGENDA.

[5. Discussion on changes to the Fiscal Year 2024-2025 proposed budget, legal and engineering fees and items from budget workshops.]

DISCUSSION ON CHANGES TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025.

PROPOSED BUDGET.

LEGAL AND ENGINEERING FEES AND ITEMS FROM BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

FUN TIMES.

LET ME OPEN MY EXCEL SPREADSHEET.

THANK YOU. WOULD YOU TAKE THESE UP THERE TO THE COUNCIL? UP. HERE.

THERE'S MORE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE.

THANK YOU. THE PAPERS THAT COLTON JUST BROUGHT.

YOU WERE THE GENERALS.

THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

AFTER THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE LOWER TAX, THE TAX RATE GOING TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND THE INSTRUCTIONS TO CUT THE BUDGET, WE WENT BACK TO THE STAFF AND ASKED THEM TO CUT THEIR BUDGETS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING OVER THOSE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.

THESE ARE UPDATED NUMBERS AS OF THIS AFTERNOON.

SO WE'LL JUST MOVE ON.

IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN.

I'VE GOT THE THE TAX FIGURES BASED ON THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, OUR TOTAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR THE YEAR WILL BE $9,315,000.

THAT INCLUDES DEBT SERVICE.

THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE IS $0.08 8.347 $0.08, GIVING US A TOTAL REVENUE OF $1,577,000.

THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE IS 7,000,040 49.

38, FOR A TOTAL LEVY OF $7,737,000.

NOW, TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WE NEEDED TO CUT THE BUDGET.

I USED THE THE 7,737,000.

MULTIPLY THAT BY 0.98, WHICH GAVE US A PROPOSED REVENUE OF $19,395,000. THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAD AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING HAD A TOTAL OF $277,000 IN EXPENSES.

SO WHICH MEANS WE NEEDED TO CUT 881,000.

BLOW IT UP, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY. IS THAT BETTER? YES, SIR. SO THE PROPOSED BUDGET MEANT SHOWED THAT WE HAD NEEDED TO CUT $881,000 OUT OF EXPENSES IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WHICH CAN COMES TO A 4.35% IN REDUCTION IN EXPENSES. AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE STAFF WORKED VERY HARD AND WAS ABLE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT AND EVEN MORE.

WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY 1 MILLION.

APOLOGIZE. $1,037,281 IN REDUCTIONS TO THE BUDGET.

AND SO I AND I PRAISE THE ALL OF MY THE STAFF, BECAUSE THEY DID THE HARD WORK OF COMING UP WITH WHERE WE NEEDED. WE COULD MAKE CUTS.

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SOME WERE ABLE TO CUT THEIR BUDGET.

OTHERS WE NEEDED TO MAKE NEEDED TO BE INCREASED.

BUT OVERALL WE CAME UP WITH A 5% DECREASE IN EXPENSES.

IN THE ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT.

THE BIG THE BIG CUT WAS WE CUT 10,000 FROM TRAVEL AND TRAINING, AND WE CUT $1,500 FROM EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION.

AND IN THE CITY COUNCIL DEPARTMENT.

MICHELLE, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH. SO IN OTHER SERVICES WE CUT 2400 FROM THERE.

NOW, THESE ARE THE ROUND TABLES THAT ARE PURCHASED FOR LIKE, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE EVENTS, LUNCHEONS LIKE STATE OF THE COUNTY, THE EVENTS LIKE THAT.

SO INSTEAD OF PURCHASING WHOLE TABLES, WE'D BE PURCHASING INDIVIDUAL TICKETS.

BECAUSE NOT ALL OF COUNCIL CAN ATTEND.

SO WE'RE WE CUT THE BUDGET, AND COUNCIL WILL BE PROVIDED THREE TICKETS TO ATTEND THREE EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR.

CAN YOU SPEAK? I WENT BACK AND REMOVED $29,000 FROM THE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT BUDGET.

THIS IS THE MONEY THAT WE USE ANNUALLY TO HOLD THE ANNUAL EMPLOYEE PARTY, WHETHER THAT'S THE CHRISTMAS PARTY OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

SO THAT WAS REMOVED FROM $30,000.

I DECREASED THE NOTARY LINE.

WE DON'T HAVE A NOTARY IN OUR DEPARTMENT ANYMORE.

I REMOVED $600 FROM A PHONE ALLOWANCE AND MOVED IT OVER TO THE PURCHASE OF A PHONE.

I DECREASED THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FROM 60 TO 50,000, AND DECREASED DUES AND SUBSCRIPTION FROM 1365 TO 1000, AND I MOVED THE PAYLOCITY COST THAT IS BEING COVERED BY FINANCE AND THAT WAS BUDGETED IN MY ACCOUNT.

SO THAT IS BEING REMOVED.

THAT'S $25,000 THERE.

AND I'VE ALSO DECREASED MY EQUIPMENT BUDGET BY 5000.

THAT MEANS THAT HR WILL NOT HAVE A BADGE PRINTER FOR EMPLOYEES.

EMPLOYEES CURRENTLY HAVE TO GO TO THE POLICE CHIEF SECRETARY TO GET A BADGE PRINTED WHEN THEY'RE HIRED, OR IF THEY LOSE A BADGE.

WE HAD PLANNED TO HAVE THAT IN HR, BUT WE'LL JUST KEEP SENDING THEM OVER TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO MOVE THE BADGE PRINTER OVER HERE? I MEAN, WHO'S PRINTING MORE BADGES? GOOD QUESTION.

DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? OKAY. IT'S REALLY A SHARED RESOURCE BY ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

I MEAN, LOCATION COULD BE HERE OR THERE.

I THINK THE IDEA WAS MORE FOR JUST HAVING IT SECURE WITH H.R.

TO HAVE IT OVER HERE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S A SHARED RESOURCE, AND, I MEAN, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF A BOTHER ON RHONDA.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF A LOAD THAT IS.

USUALLY, LIKE EACH DEPARTMENT.

LIKE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN LOG IN AND CREATE THEIR BADGE.

SO WHEN THEY GET TO RHONDA, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS JUST HIT PRINT.

SHOULDN'T THAT BE A SECURITY, THOUGH? I MEAN, NORMALLY IN IN MODERN WORLD YOU GO TO HR FOR YOUR BADGE, RIGHT? AND THAT WAY THERE'S SECURITY.

AND YOU KNOW, HR HAS ISSUED THESE BADGES AND YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE PRINTING BADGES.

THIS IS JUST EVIDENCE TO THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED.

YOU KNOW, IT STARTED OUT PD WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH BADGES.

AS CITY HALL GREW AND AS THE CITY ITSELF GREW, WE BECAME MORE PROFESSIONAL.

THEN WE STARTED, OKAY, EVERYBODY GETS A BADGE.

AND THAT HAPPENED, I THINK, BACK IN THE DAYS OF GREG SMITH.

BUT AT THAT TIME PD ALREADY HAD THE BADGE PRINTER WAS MAKING BADGES FOR THEM.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE RIGHT NOW WITH THAT BADGE JASON, IT WILL SURVIVE AND MOVE ON.

YEAH. IT'S IT'S IT'S PRETTY OLD I'D SAY PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS OLD.

AND WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH IT, BUT IT DOES THE JOB THAT WE NEED.

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I HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT LONGER FOR THEM TO ARRIVE, BUT I WAS GOING TO LOOK AT THAT JUST TO SEE COST SAVINGS OVER A BIG PURCHASE FOR AN INCREDIBLE.

DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF BADGES WE'RE PRINTED ON FOR NOTED.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS, JAMIE.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT MAINTENANCE? GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

SPEAKING FOR MAINTENANCE, WE DID CUT 700 FROM APPAREL, 40,000 FROM BUILDING RENOVATIONS FROM THIS BUILDING.

SO THAT MEANS NOT REMODELING AND ADDING ADDITIONAL OFFICES THAT WAS NEEDED.

AND CITY ANNEX BUILDING RENOVATIONS WAS CUT FOR 63,000.

AND THEN WE DID HAVE TO ADD IN 15,000 OR 16,000.

WE ABSORBED THE HVAC MAINTENANCE FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH WAS A COST SAVINGS FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

ONCE WE ADDED IT IN, AND THEN WE CUT EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION BY $650.

OUR GRAND TOTAL CUT WAS 88,000.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

GO AHEAD, DO THAT ONE. OKAY, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

YES, SIR. YOU'RE CUTTING BUILDING HALL. CITY HALL BUILDING RENOVATION 40,000.

LEAVING 25 K IN.

YES, SIR. WHAT'S THAT GOING TO BE SPENT FOR? WE'RE HOPING TO ADD DOING MANUAL LABOR BY JOHN IS ADDING WALLS TO ADDITIONAL TWO MORE OFFICES.

AND DEPENDING ON THE MOVEMENT OF THE ANNEX BUILDING ADDITIONAL WALLS AND ANOTHER ADDITIONAL WINDOW FOR IT'S ALL DEPENDING ON THE REST OF THE BUDGET.

AND ONLY LEAVING 35,000 ON THE CITY HALL ANNEX TO RENOVATE.

YES, SIR. HOW FAR IS THAT GOING TO GET YOU? THAT'S NOT THE RENOVATION COST.

I KNOW THAT'S THE.

THAT'S THE UPKEEP.

THE, YOU KNOW, DOOR DOESN'T WORK.

SOMETHING WE ALSO PUT IN THERE BECAUSE IT IS BEING RENOVATED BY A DIFFERENT.

BUT WHEN YOU GET IN THERE AND YOU GET TO WORKING, YOU REALIZE, HEY, WE ACTUALLY NEEDED A WALL HERE VERSUS A DOOR OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

SO THAT WAS FOR THAT REASON. WE HAVE BIDS FOR THE ACTUAL RENOVATION, LIKE WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU ALL ABOUT PUTTING IN THE OFFICES, THE CONFERENCE ROOM, THE WIRING, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WE'RE JUST KIND OF WAITING A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MAINTENANCE? NO. OKAY.

WE'LL GO TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES.

I DECREASED IT BY 250 RANDOM VEHICLES.

I DECREASED IT BY 300 DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS BY 120, TRAVELING TRAINING BY 2500, AND THEN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FUND BY 9172.

THAT CUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BUDGET BY 12,042.

I CUT EYEWORKS FEMA PROGRAMING, WHICH HELPS WITH FEMA FUNDING AND WITH UNIT COST AND EMPLOYEE.

I CUT SIREN ALL THE SIREN MAINTENANCE FOR THE YEAR.

I CUT SIX EMPLOYEES NOT GOING TO TRAINING WHICH INCLUDED DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, LOGISTICS SECTION CHIEF SITUATIONAL LEADER, FINANCE UNIT LEADER, CERT TRAINING TRAIN THE TRAINER, SHELTER MANAGEMENT, AND EVACUATION AND REENTRY PLANNING TRAINING.

QUESTIONS? I NEED MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

WAS ALL IN TRAVEL TRAINING.

YES, SIR. AND THEN THE 9000 WAS THE FEMA PROGRAMING AND THE SIREN MAINTENANCE.

CAN YOU GIVE ME THE AMOUNTS, PLEASE? 3000 FOR THE FEMA AND 7100 ISH FOR THE SIREN ALERT MAINTENANCE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS.

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SO I REMOVED THE PHONE ALLOWANCE AND I ADD 1400.

I REMOVED THAT, BUT I ADDED 1500 TO PHONES.

AND THEN WE CUT 378 FROM DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS AND THEN 24,632 FROM THE ELECTIONS. SINCE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BOND ELECTION THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY ELECTIONS I ACCOUNTED FOR IS THE GENERAL ELECTION AND A RUNOFF.

AND THEN COSTS FOR OUR ELECTION PUBLICATIONS.

IT WAS GOING TO COST 25,000 FOR THE BOND ELECTION.

WELL, I HAD ACCOUNTED FOR 15,000 FOR EACH ELECTION BECAUSE THAT WAS THE HIGHEST MAXIMUM.

MAXIMUM COST.

BUT LOOKING AT PAST ELECTIONS, OUR ELECTIONS ARE RUNNING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 7 TO 12,000.

SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THIS.

WE'RE STILL BUDGETING FOR A ELECTION NEXT MAY.

YES, YES, A REGULAR ELECTION.

AND THEN. AND WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF STILL HAVING A BOND ELECTION NEXT MAY.

AND IT WOULD STILL BE COVERED BY THAT.

SO BY NOT SEPARATING THE TWO ELECTIONS, BY CONSOLIDATING THEM INTO A SINGLE ELECTION, WE SAVE MONEY.

YES. OKAY. JUST MAKE SURE AND THEN HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE PHONE SITUATION.

YOU TOOK THE PHONE ALLOWANCE AWAY, BUT YOU'RE PUTTING IT ON THE PHONES, RIGHT? WHAT DOES THAT GET YOU? SO THE REASON IT'S 1500 IS BECAUSE THERE'S A ONE TIME YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE A PHONE FOR 150, BUT ONCE WE PURCHASE THE PHONE, THEN IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE JUST PAYING THE $50 MONTHLY SERVICE FEE.

IS THAT COMMON ACROSS ALL THE BUDGETS? I SEE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SHAKING THEIR HEAD.

OKAY, SO WE WE USED TO HAD A HYBRID WHERE YOU COULD GET PAID TO HAVE A PHONE, A PHONE ALLOWANCE.

AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT PHONES AND WE'RE MOVING FINALLY MOVING TO ALL HAVING GOVERNMENT PHONES.

AND THAT'S PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE OPEN THE RECORDS, OPEN RECORDS AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND IT'S COST SAVINGS AND STANDARDIZATION, ALL THAT STUFF IN THE 1500S FOR TWO PEOPLE, FOR DESIREE AND I.

THANKS. GO AHEAD.

NEW MUNICIPAL COURT.

AND THEN FOR, FOR MUNICIPAL COURT.

THERE WAS WE HAD IT OVER.

WE OVER BUDGETED FOR THE PROSECUTOR LINE.

AND SO WE CUT THAT BY 67,000.

SO CURRENTLY HIS PAY IS AT 71,001 59.

HOW DID I MISS THAT ONE? OKAY. THAT'S AN EASY SAVINGS.

YES.

WE'LL GO BACK TO THE TAX DEPARTMENT.

THIS DEPARTMENT IS WHERE WE PAY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR THE APPRAISALS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE.

CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. THIS IS WHERE WE PAY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, AND I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.

SO I DID NOT CUT THIS BUDGET AT ALL.

THAT'S FINE. GO ON TO FINANCE.

I WENT THROUGH ONE THING LIKE MICHELLE.

I MOVED THE PHONE ALLOWANCE DOWN TO A PHONE.

I MADE SOME SEVERAL SMALL ADJUSTMENTS.

THE BIGGEST ONES BEING BIGGEST ADJUSTMENTS I MADE WERE FOR TRAVEL AND TRAINING.

I HAD PLANNED ON TRAINING.

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GETTING HER STARTED ON THE CERTIFIED GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION TRAINING.

I CUT THAT OUT AND I CUT OUT THE ONE OF THE ONE OF THE SOFTWARES I HAVE.

IT IS THE TAX SERVICE.

THE PROPERTY TAX SERVICE, NOT PROPERTY TAX.

I APOLOGIZE, SALES TAX ANALYSIS.

I CUT THAT OUT.

SO OVERALL I WAS ABLE TO CUT 22,000 370,000 OUT OF FINANCE.

WHERE'S THE SALES TAX LINE.

THAT WAS IN ANNUAL SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE.

THAT IS A SERVICE THAT WE HAVE WHERE THEY TAKE OUR CONFIDENTIAL FILES AND ANALYZE IT.

ZACH? YES. SIR.

IS THAT ZACH TAX, OR WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE? WE WERE USING LOUIS MCLANE AND MCLANE DECISION SUPPORT SERVICES, AND THEY WERE ANALYZING THE SALES TAX.

YES. HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM ZACH TAX? THE REPORTS ARE DIFFERENT.

HE GOES INTO THE A DEEPER ANALYSIS OF THE REPORTS, AND BUT I EVEN THOUGH I LIKE HIS REPORTS, I'M GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER SERVICE BECAUSE HE'S FAIRLY EXPENSIVE, AS YOU CAN TELL.

SO WHEN WE LOOKING AT ZACH TAX AGAIN AND AS OF OUR AUDITS THE PEOPLE WHO DO OUR HOTEL MOTEL AUDITS, I'M GOING TO BE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT SWITCHING TO ONE OF THEM FOR OUR CONFIDENTIAL FINANCIAL SERVICES.

CHIEF, YOU WILL DO.

HEY, PHIL, BEFORE YOU PASS THAT MIC, SIR, HOW MUCH ARE YOU PAYING FOR THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE USING THIS FOR THAT? THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED.

WE PURCHASED A THREE YEAR LICENSE.

IT'S $7,000 A YEAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BASICALLY WHAT WE DID WAS WE WENT BACK TO 20, 23, 24 BUDGET ON APPAREL, WHERE WE CUT 19,600 GENERAL SUPPLIES.

WE CUT 3000 OFFICE SUPPLIES.

WE CUT GOT 3300 VEHICLE SUPPLIES, 10,500 EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES, $2,488 FIREARMS, WHICH INCLUDES AMMO, STUFF LIKE THAT.

$2,625. OUR VEHICLES $13,020.

RANDOM BUILDING 5000.

EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION CUT 975 AND PRISONER SUPPORT.

WE CUT 1600, WHICH TOTALS $62,020.

IT WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF AREAS THAT WE COULD CUT.

REMEMBER, WE HAD TO ADD AN ENTERPRISE TO OUR BUDGET AND ALSO THE EMPLOYEES INSURANCE AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF WAS AN INCREASE ALONG WITH THE RADIOS.

SO. HOW DID YOU CUT THE ENTERPRISE LEASE VEHICLE? THE ENTERPRISE VEHICLES.

WE I WENT THROUGH AND WE HAD SEVERAL CHARGES ON THE BILL, WHAT I USED TO CALCULATE THE ESTIMATE ESTIMATE FOR THE BUDGET.

WE HAD CHARGES FOR RADIOS AND MOTOROLA EQUIPMENT.

THOSE WERE ONE TIME CHARGES.

SO I WAS ABLE TO REDUCE THE TAKE THOSE OFF OF OUR ESTIMATE, OUR BILL, AND ALSO THEN I ADDED BACK IN THE THREE NEW CARS, AND THAT'S HOW I WAS ABLE TO CUT IT.

SO IN THE ENTERPRISE VEHICLE LEASE, IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, WE WERE INCLUDING MOTOROLA.

YES. AND WHAT ELSE WAS IN THERE? IT WAS MOTOROLA AND SOME NON-RECURRING MAINTENANCE CHARGES.

THE MOTOROLA WERE CHARGES WERE VERY EXPENSIVE.

WAS IT THE COMPUTER? TWO? WAS THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE CAR ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT?

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WE HAD TO PAY HALF UP FRONT, AND THEN THE REST IS PUT INTO THE LEASE.

BUT THERE ARE SOME ONE TIME PURCHASES THAT PHIL'S TALKING ABOUT, LIKE THE MOTOROLA RADIOS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT THE EQUIPPING OF THE VEHICLE, MINUS THE COMPUTER IS PUT INTO THE LEASE.

OTHER THAN THAT HALF UP FRONT THAT WE PAY, RIGHT? SO THE COMPUTER WAS IT IN HERE, AND NOW IT'S TAKEN OUT TOO? NO I DIDN'T.

IT'S IN THE THREE. IT'S IN THE THREE.

YES. OKAY.

THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

AT ONE TIME. CAUSE. THAT GOES BACK TO CLEAN HOUSEKEEPING, RIGHT? WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THESE LINES SEPARATED WITH WHAT THEY REALLY ARE.

SO THEY DIDN'T GET MUDDY UP, YOU KNOW, IN HERE.

WHAT'S THE ACTUAL COST OF THE LEASE? THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN. SO THIS IS ALL FIXED FILL GOING FORWARD.

YES, SIR. ALL DEPARTMENTS.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

YOU WANT TO DO ANIMAL CONTROL? YES. ANIMAL CONTROL.

WE BASICALLY WENT THE SAME LINE.

ITEMS WITH ANIMAL CONTROL. THERE'S NOT MUCH CHANGE IN ANIMAL CONTROL.

NOT MUCH TO CUT. AND I'M SORRY I LEFT THEM OUT IN MY REPORT EARLIER, BUT ANIMAL CONTROL IS DOING GREAT, GREAT WORK WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.

WE'RE ALWAYS FULL WITH ANIMALS, SO WE JUST NEED TO ROLL UP DOORS FROM THE HURRICANE, WHICH IS NOT INSURANCE COVERED.

THAT FACILITY HAS A LITTLE OVER $10,000 DEDUCTIBLE, AND THE COST IS JUST A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS OVER THAT DEDUCTIBLE.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE WERE ABLE TO GO INTO OUR TRAINING ACCOUNT.

CUT THAT BY $6,200.

ALSO PRODUCING SUBSCRIPTIONS, DEALING WITH CERTIFICATIONS AND OTHER ITEMS ON THE INSPECTION SIDE AND OTHER STAFF.

WE WERE ABLE TO CUT THAT.

WHAT CERTIFICATIONS? OTIS. SO CERTIFICATIONS, I WOULD MEAN HEALTH.

CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THAT WOULD BE OUR BUILDING CODE OFFICIALS.

MY ICP CERTIFICATION.

ALL INCLUSIVE. SOME OF THE INSPECTORS ACTUALLY HAVE ROTATING MEMBERSHIPS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO CUT THAT.

THE TRAININGS WOULD BE ANY TRAININGS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE CERTIFICATIONS FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE? SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THOSE CUTS.

THE OTHER CUTS HAD TO DO WITH THE ACCOUNTS, I THINK THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME.

THEY'RE CONSIDERED PASS THROUGH ACCOUNTS, MEANING THAT THEY'RE ESCROW ACCOUNTS BASED ON A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

DEVELOPERS BASICALLY PAY AS THEY GO IN TERMS OF LEGAL AND ENGINEERING FEES WITH THOSE ACCOUNTS.

AS YOU SAW HISTORICALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, IT WAS A LOT HIGHER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO IN AND DO THE REIMBURSEMENTS AS FAST AS WE CAN DO THEM NOW. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR THOSE PASS THROUGH ACCOUNTS TO BE LOWERED AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE OTHER CUTS.

SO ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE, WE LOWERED THAT FROM 154,000 DOWN TO 100,000 BECAUSE THEY WERE COMING IN, AS YOU SEE ON THE ESTIMATES, A LOT LOWER PER YEAR.

AND WITH THE REIMBURSEMENTS OCCURRING A LOT MORE FREQUENTLY, WE'RE ABLE TO MANAGE THOSE ACCOUNTS A LOT BETTER.

HOLD ON REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER ON THAT.

PROFESSIONAL FEES.

IS THAT ENGINEERING ONLY? THAT WOULD BE ENGINEERING ON ON THAT LINE ITEM.

YES, SIR. OKAY. AND IT'S ONLY ENGINEERING.

YES. AND FURTHER DOWN WOULD BE THE LEGAL RIGHT.

PHIL, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? YES. OKAY.

AND WE HAVE JOHN PETERSON HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ON ENGINEERING FEES.

I JUST KNOW THAT YOUR ONE ACCOUNT DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE ONLY FEW THAT IS ACTUALLY SEPARATED, LEGAL AND PROFESSIONAL, SEPARATED, AND ALMOST ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

IT'S LEGAL, PROFESSIONAL, SLASH PROFESSIONAL.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING WHAT'S IN THESE ACCOUNTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAN.

SO WE CAN MAKE THAT ANALYSIS BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS KIND OF MUDDIED UP.

AND YOU'RE REDUCING THAT BECAUSE YOU FEEL YOU'RE GOING TO GET PAID BACK.

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YES, SIR. AND IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU'RE LACKING THAT, THE PERMISSION OF THE CITY MANAGER, I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF THE COLLECTION ON THE INVOICES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. I'LL GIVE YOU A BALLPARK FIGURE AS TO WHAT WE'VE DEALT WITH THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR ON THE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS ASHLAND.

STASSNEY WE'RE DEALING WITH RIVERWOOD RANCH, FOR EXAMPLE.

WE'VE COLLECTED 77,000 797,000 ON THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.

STAFFORD IS STILL PENDING.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH LEGAL ON THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS, AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE ETJ AS WELL AS OUR CITY LIMITS, BUT THERE WERE SOME INCURRED PROFESSIONAL FEES AND LEGAL FEES ON THAT SIDE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE DUE.

ON THE REGULAR PLANNING SIDE, WE'VE COLLECTED OVER $16,000 ON THOSE REVIEW FEES FROM THE PROFESSIONAL AND LEGAL SIDE.

WE'RE CURRENTLY OWED ABOUT 20,000 ON THOSE PLATS.

THE PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THE SMALLER PLATS IS THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND DECIDE NOT TO DO THE DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOME PENDINGS THERE.

WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, WE HOPE TO SETTLE ON SOME OF THE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS WHICH ARE CLOSING OUT OR IN PROGRESS, SUCH AS ANDERSON PLACE, ANGLETON PARK PLACE, ASHLAND ONGOING, AUSTIN COLONY.

THERE ARE SOME ACTIVITY MOVING MULBERRY FIELDS AND THEN WINDROSE GREEN WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE A LOT OF HISTORICAL INVOICING HAS BEEN DONE, BUT THE COLLECTIONS WILL HAPPEN.

I THINK WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN AVERAGE OF $60,000 TO BE COLLECTED VERSUS WHAT'S BEEN DEPOSITED, WHAT'S BEEN PAID AND WHAT'S BEEN INVOICED.

SO WE'LL BE COLLECTING THOSE FEES WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

SO HOPEFULLY IN TERMS OF THE NEW PROCESSES, THE WAY WE'RE DOING DEVELOPMENT NOW FOR DOG MEETINGS, IN ORDER TO HAVE LEGAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES, THOSE WOULD BE PAID UPFRONT THROUGH THE DEPOSIT AT 30 SECTION 30.5 EXPENDITURES AGAINST DEPOSIT.

WE'LL HAVE A PROCESS WHERE THE DEVELOPER PAYS UP FRONT, BY REQUEST, TO HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN THOSE MEETINGS OR TO HAVE THOSE REVIEWS.

WE'RE REFINING ALSO PROCESSES, OF COURSE.

ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, AS IT RELATES TO CAPACITY STUDIES, THOSE THINGS ARE, OF COURSE, PAID BY THE DEVELOPER ALSO.

THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S JUST AN UPDATE.

IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS.

WE KNOW IT'S OF COURSE, PASSED THROUGH OUR ACCOUNTS.

WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN WE'RE MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO JUST GIVE UPDATES ON HOW THAT'S GOING.

THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

DO YOU HAVE A SPREADSHEET ON THAT? KEEPING TRACK OF EVERYBODY.

WE DO. WE HAVE. CAN YOU PULL THAT UP, PLEASE? YES, SIR. OH YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW THEM.

BUT I HAVE WHAT I'VE JUST TOLD YOU.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE A COPY OF IT, I CAN GIVE YOU THAT.

THAT'S FINE. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE.

HOWEVER, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR PHIL.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THESE GL ACCOUNTS FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS, AND WE STOP PUTTING THE MONEY, THE EXPENSES AGAINST THEM.

I WISH WE HADN'T STOPPED BECAUSE IT WOULD BE VERY CLEAR TO SEE WHAT EXPENSES WENT TO, WHAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO NOW WE'VE LUMPED THEM ALL INTO ONE ACCOUNT.

WHEN BEFORE WE SEPARATE THEM OUT SO WE COULD TRACK IT SO I DON'T KNOW, JUST A RECOMMENDATION.

I PUT THEM BACK SO YOU CAN TRACK THEM A LOT EASIER.

IT'S A LOT EASIER TO GO BACK AND GO.

THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE ACCOUNT VERSUS OKAY, LET ME LOOK AT THIS ACCOUNT.

WHAT MAKES IT UP? I THINK WE CAN DO THAT EITHER WAY.

OTIS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE VEHICLE LEASE ENTERPRISE? WHY? IT'S ACTUALLY BEING ADDED INTO THE BUDGET NOW.

I'LL LET PHIL EXPLAIN THAT.

THAT WAS JUST A RECENT CHANGE FOR US.

SINCE THIS HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

CHIEF GAVE SOME OF HIS COST OVER TO YOU.

I'M JOKING. CHIEF.

ACTUALLY, THE ENTERPRISE LEASE DEPARTMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING, I DID GO THROUGH AND SEPARATE ALL OF THE GET IT INTO ALL OF THE EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

NEIL, DO YOU WANT TO DO FIRE? THANK YOU. OTIS, CAN YOU SEND THAT SPREADSHEET TO THE COUNCIL CAN SEE THAT THE RECOVERY.

YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU. SO, PHIL, YOU MOVED IT OUT OF FLEET, AND THEN YOU MOVED IT INTO THE DEPARTMENTS IT BELONGS TO? YES, SIR. 314,000.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'VE GOT TWO LINE ITEMS THAT WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO CUT IN OUR BUDGET.

THE FIRST ONE OF THESE WAS A TOWER.

ONE MINOR OVERHAUL IS WHAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IN OUR NOTES AS AND THAT WAS ROUGHLY A $15,000 SOFT COMPONENTS FOR THE TRUCK.

SO THIS TRUCK IS REACHING ITS PURCHASED 0708 SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR MY GIRLS ARE BORN.

AND THIS TRUCK IS IN GOING TO BE IN NEED OF SOFT HOSES, O-RINGS, THOSE WEARING PIECES ON THE TRUCK.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME MORE LIFE OUT OF THE TRUCK.

THIS THINGS TO TO PURCHASE THAT TRUCK TODAY IT'S $2 MILLION.

SO IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL PURCHASE.

SO WE WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET SOME SOME MORE LIFE OUT OF IT.

IF WE DO THIS WORK.

WE PUSHED IT IN 23.

WE PUSHED IT IN 24.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PUSH IT IN 25.

SO THAT SAVES US THAT 15,000.

THE SECOND ITEM WE REMOVED ON THAT WAS WE REMOVED 10 OR 20,000 THAT I HAD PLACED IN THERE TO KIND OF COVER THE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE COSTS THAT WE GET EVERY YEAR.

I'M SURE YOU FOLLOW THE PATH.

WE WE GUESS IT AS ACCURATE AS WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE.

AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENS.

AND THOSE BIG RED TRUCKS, IT'S NOT SMALL REPAIRS.

IT'S IT'S BIG NUMBERS USUALLY.

SO WE REDUCE THAT 20,000 AND JUST LEFT A $10,000 ADDITIONAL, WHICH I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT FOR THE YEAR'S END. WHERE IS THAT AT? THAT WAS IN THE REPAIR MAINTENANCE OF VEHICLES.

YES, SIR. YEAH. THE OTHER ITEM WAS REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF BUILDING.

AND BOTH OF THESE WERE RELATED TO STATION TWO.

THERE'S A BACK DOOR AT STATION TWO THAT WE WERE GOING TO REPLACE.

THAT'S DAMAGED. IT WON'T CLOSE AND LATCH PROPERLY.

WE HAVE TO MAKE IT LOCKED FROM THE INSIDE.

WE LOOKED AT THAT AGAIN.

WE FEEL LIKE WE PROBABLY CAN REPLACE SOME LOWER PANELS ON THAT.

IT'S NOT A DECORATIVE PIECE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S VISIBLE FROM THE FRONT.

SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO REPLACE A COUPLE OF PANELS INSTEAD OF THE WHOLE DOOR AND GET US BY A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE REDUCED THAT DOWN TO FIVE AND THEN COMPLETELY REMOVED ANY OF THE REPAIRS WE HAD AROUND THE PARKING LOT.

YOU DRIVE BY THERE, IT'S IT LOOKS LIKE A ALMOST GRASSY, ALMOST GLITCHY PARKING LOT.

AND WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO GET ALL THAT LEVELED UP AND STRAIGHTENED OUT, BUT WE'LL JUST PUSH THAT OFF A LITTLE BIT SO THE BUDGET FITS US A LITTLE BETTER.

AND THOSE WERE THE REMOVED A TOTAL OF 50,000.

ANY QUESTIONS? I'M VERY CONCERNED.

CHIEF, ON YOUR CUTS TO THE LADDER TRUCK.

IT'S OUR ONLY LADDER, RIGHT.

WE HAVE THE QUINT.

SO THIS IS OUR OLDER TOWER, RIGHT? IT'S 100 FOOT APPARATUS.

WHEN YOU GET TO RIDE ON, YOU KNOW, THE BUCKET IN THE FRONT.

WE ALSO HAVE A 75 FOOT STICK.

IT'S JUST JUST THE LADDER THAT IS IN THE FLEET.

SO IT IS AVAILABLE.

THE REPAIRS ARE YOU KNOW, I WON'T CALL THEM REPAIRS.

THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.

IT'S WARRANTED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A HOSE ISSUE, WE'LL TAKE THE TRUCK, GET IT FIXED, BRING IT BACK.

THE IDEA IN THAT 15,000 REPAIR IS TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THOSE AT ONE TIME, AND MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT IT'S THAT IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE, READY TO GO.

SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THAT, BUT JUST HISTORICALLY IT'S HYDRAULICS.

HYDRAULICS HAVE ISSUES AND OVER TIME YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THINGS LEAKING.

YOU KNOW WE MAY CAN GET BY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A LEAK IN AN O-RING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR AN OUTRIGGER THAT'S LEAKING HERE AND THERE.

YOU KNOW, IF WE START HAVING ISSUES WHERE THE THE MAST IS LOWERING ON ITS OWN BECAUSE OF LEAKS AND STUFF, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU ANNUALLY THAT TRUCK IS INSPECTED, THE LADDER IS INSPECTED.

ALL THE SAFETY FEATURES ARE NOT A CONCERN.

IF WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE, IT WILL BE A ONE OFF AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

OKAY. MEGAN, BEFORE YOU START, OTIS, REAL QUICK, DID YOUR HEADCOUNT STILL STAY IN THAT DECISION PACKAGE OR IS IT STILL TAKEN OUT? SO WE TOOK THE ONE PART TIME POSITION FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OUT.

YEAH. BY YOUR INSTRUCTION.

AND THEN THE ONE POSITION UP FRONT IS STILL IN THERE.

STILL IN THERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

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SO IT STILL NEEDS TO BE ADDED.

YES. THANK YOU. SO YOU EXPRESSED THE DESIRE TO GO THROUGH WHAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET AND ADD STUFF IN.

AND, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO PHIL, WE HAVE SOME LEEWAY TO YOU GET TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WHERE WE CAN ADD STUFF BACK IN. AND SO THAT'S UP.

THAT'LL BE A DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT.

I'M JUST MAKING NOTES.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO FOR PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY SPECIFICALLY, WE CUT OUR APPAREL LINE ITEM BY 1500 GENERAL SUPPLIES BY OVER 2000.

OUR SMALL EQUIPMENT BY 400.

WE TRIED TO MAKE A PURCHASE THIS YEAR, SO IT WASN'T REQUIRED NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

AND ALL OF OUR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE FOR VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE, BUILDINGS AND OTHER AS WELL AS VEGETATION REPLACEMENT WERE CUT.

OUR STRATEGY HERE IS THAT SOME OF THESE ITEMS WERE TRYING TO LEVERAGE KBS INCREASED FUND BALANCE FOR SPECIFIC BEAUTIFICATION ITEMS THAT FALL WITHIN REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE FOR BUILDINGS.

OTHER. THOSE TYPICALLY ARE YOUR DOWNTOWN STREETLIGHT REPAIRS AND THEN ALSO OUR VEGETATION REPLACEMENT.

SO WE'VE COMPLETELY ZEROED OUT VEGETATION REPLACEMENT FOR THAT REASON.

AND THEN ALSO IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR STRATEGY THERE IS TO UTILIZE OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES FOR THINGS THAT WE WANT TO REPLACE AND IMPROVE WITHIN OUR PARK SYSTEM.

AND SO WE REDUCED THAT BY 10,000.

WE ALSO MADE A REDUCTION IN TRAVEL AND TRAINING BY 2500, CONTRACT LABOR BY 750, IRRIGATION BY 500, AND BALLFIELD MAINTENANCE BY 15,000.

THAT IMPACT SPECIFICALLY IS REGARDING ANY PROJECTS FOR OUR THREE SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS.

SO WE LEFT IN HALF OF WHAT WAS TYPICALLY BUDGETED FOR OUR ROUTINE HERBICIDE MAINTENANCE THAT WE REQUIRE WITHIN OUR CONTRACT.

FOR THOSE AGSA'S OR EXCUSE ME, OUR AZA AGREEMENTS.

SO WE'RE REQUIRED BY CONTRACT TO MAKE THOSE APPLICATIONS.

SO WE DIDN'T REMOVE THAT.

BUT ANY ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT THE ASSOCIATIONS WANT TO CONSIDER.

THAT WILL EITHER HAVE TO BE A PARKLAND DEDICATION, CONSIDERATION AND CONTRIBUTION AND OR JUST HOLD OFF ON THIS YEAR.

THE LAST ITEM THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS AN INJECTION OF REVENUE FROM ABLC.

SO IF YOU GUYS RECALL DURING THE BUDGET PRESENTATION WORKSHOP THIS SUMMER, ABLC CURRENTLY PAYS FOR 25% OF PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY PERSONNEL.

WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT THAT BE INCREASED TO 28% THIS YEAR TO HELP OUT THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT ALLOWS US TO ALSO STILL ADDRESS THE FOUR HIGH PRIORITY DECISION PACKAGES FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER THAT ARE OR COULD BE A RISK AND LIABILITY ISSUE FOR THE CITY.

SO WE HAVE TAKEN THOSE DECISION PACKAGES AND CONSIDERATION.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS ABLC WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO FUND THOSE FOUR DECISION PACKAGES FOR THE ARC AND ALSO FUND AN INCREASE OF 3% FOR PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY PERSONNEL.

SO THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH ZERO OUT YOUR CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM.

AND JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, BUT THAT DOES HELP US REACH 4.91% REDUCTION.

BUT HE STILL HASN'T VOTED ON THAT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WHY? EXPLAIN TO ME AGAIN MEGAN ON THE PERSONNEL SERVICES.

WHY WHY ARE YOU GOING UP SO MUCH IN HEADCOUNT OR NOT? HEADCOUNT, BUT IN PAYROLL.

WHAT'S THAT REFLECT? SO FISCAL YEAR 2223.

PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY WERE NOT COMBINED THIS YEAR.

THEY WERE RIGHT.

BUT YOU ALSO HAD AN ISSUE WITH PERSONNEL NOT BEING ACCOUNTED FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR AND THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH FINANCE DEPARTMENT SINCE FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR TO RECONCILE A NUMBER OF ACCOUNTING ISSUES, INCLUDING THIS DISCREPANCY. SO THIS WAS A POSITION THAT ABC AGREED TO PAY FOR 25% OF THAT PERSON AND THE GENERAL FUND DURING THE MID-YEAR BUDGET, ADJUSTMENTS WERE ACCOUNTED FOR THE 75%.

OKAY. AND BY ZEROING OUT THE ABC'S CONTINGENCY, THEY HAVE NOTHING

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THAT IS CORRECT. BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF BOND PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND WE DO STILL HAVE THE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, THE ABC COULD CONSIDER ONE BEING THE FACT THAT THEY DO HAVE THEIR FUND BALANCE, WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS AT THE ABLAK MEETING, SO THEY COULD ALWAYS PULL FROM THAT. HOWEVER, ANOTHER OPTION IS THE FUND BALANCES THAT GO TO ARC AND THE REC DIVISION.

ABC COULD CLAW BACK SOME OF THOSE FUNDS AND SAY THAT THEY WANT IT TO GO TO ABC FUND BALANCE TO HELP ABLAK SPECIFICALLY AND REINSTATE THE TYPICAL PROCEDURE THAT WE ADOPTED THIS YEAR FOR ARC AND THE RECREATION DIVISION, IF WE'D LIKE.

OKAY. JASON.

THERE HE IS. IN THE IT DEPARTMENT.

TOOK A CLOSER LOOK AT MY BUDGET.

I DIDN'T NOTICE STARTING WITH FICA.

THERE WAS A DOUBLE ENTRY, SO THAT IMMEDIATELY SAVED ME 18,300 REMOVING THAT ENTRY.

MOVING ON DOWN TO OUR VEHICLES.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED OUR VEHICLE YET, SO I'M JUST PULLING THAT $500 FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.

GOING ON DOWN TO PHONES, WE'VE REDUCED THAT BY $820, DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS BY 355.

TRAVEL AND TRAINING BY 2000.

CONTRACT LABOR, I REDUCED BY 5000 JUST BASED ON OUR ESTIMATED SPEND FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

AND THEN ALSO ON OUR ANNUAL SOFTWARE.

I PULLED THE $11,000 FOR THE SOCIAL MEDIA ARCHIVING AND EMAIL ARCHIVING SERVICE, FOR A TOTAL REDUCTION OF 6.03%.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOT REALLY.

I MEAN, YOU DIDN'T HAVE MUCH YOU COULD CUT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

PHIL, IF JASON FOUND THAT PROBLEM ON THE FICA LINE FOR HIS DEPARTMENT, DID YOU CHECK? DOUBLE CHECK ALL THE DEPARTMENTS? YES. I WENT THROUGH THEM MYSELF.

AND THEN I HAD MY ACCOUNTANT, MONICA, GO THROUGH THEM AS WELL.

AND WE WE GOT EVERYTHING WE COULD FIND.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MARTHA. GOOD EVENING.

ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET, TRAVEL AND TRAINING, WE CUT BY $1,000.

AND THEN AFTER THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SALARY SPLIT, WE WENT WITH A 70 OVER 30 INSTEAD OF A 7525, WHICH GAVE US A 5% DECREASE IN BUDGET.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THE THE IDEA THAT WE COULD TRANSFER FUNDS FROM FUND 11 IF WE MADE SOME CUTS TO THAT BUDGET, BECAUSE FUND 11 IS THE FUND THAT WE TAKE THE REVENUE IN FROM MARKET DAYS AND FUND SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE DO.

BUT IF WE DECREASE THE MAYOR'S APPRECIATION, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT DOWN TO 6000 FROM THE 16, THAT WOULD GIVE US A $10,000 SAVINGS.

IF WE WENT FROM 8 OR 9 CONCERTS AND SPLIT THAT IN HALF AND SPREAD THEM OUT SO THEY WEREN'T ON HOME GAMES, AND WE STILL HAD CONCERTS THAT WOULD SAVE US $22,380 AND CANCEL THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION LINE ITEM, WHICH IS 5000, FOR A TOTAL SAVINGS OF THREE.

37,380. THAT WE COULD INFUSE INTO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 25.69% SAVINGS.

FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

HOLD ON. OKAY.

WHERE IS THE CONCERTS IN THE PARK RIGHT NOW? WHAT LINE ITEM IN FUND 11? IT'S IN FUND 11.

YEAH. SO I'M SAYING IF YOU DID THOSE THINGS, WE COULD INFUSE THE CASH FROM THOSE ITEMS OVER AND TRANSFER THOSE ITEMS OVER TO THE REVENUE OVER TO GENERAL FUND.

DO A FUND TRANSFER FROM FUND 11.

WHAT'S THE FUND BALANCE IN FUND 11? IT'S ABOUT 27,000.

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ALL OF THE PROPOSALS FOR THE INFUSION CAME FROM FUND 11.

SO IT'S ALL IN THE 37,000 THAT YOU'RE TRANSFERRING BACK, CORRECT? COUNCIL. I MEAN, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? BECAUSE HONESTLY, I'VE SEEN EVERY LINE ITEM FOR THE BUDGET BEING CUT FOR THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION AND LEAVING 6000 FOR THE MAYOR'S APPRECIATION DINNER. I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT MONEY GO TO THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION THEN.

I THINK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS NEXT YEAR.

YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T DO THAT AND INSTEAD THE EMPLOYEES GET THEIR THING.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PREFER TO DO, I THINK.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION LUNCHEON OR DINNER AND AND SHOOT, JOHN.

WE CAN EVEN INCORPORATE YOU INTO THAT AS WELL.

IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEE, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT THE EMPLOYEES APPRECIATION DINNER OR CELEBRATION TO BE CUT, AND IT'S NOT MY CHOICE. THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL HAVE SUGGESTED, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, AND I THINK COUNCIL IS BACKING IT UP.

FLIP IT. SO JUST THE THE AMOUNT THAT THIS IS COMING OUT OF FUND 11, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? WELL YOU SAID YOU'RE LEAVING 6000 I THINK IS WHAT YOU SAID CORRECT.

FOR MAYOR'S APPRECIATION. YES.

MOVE THAT TO THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION.

AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO FUND THE REST OF THIS SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE.

YEAH. THANK YOU FOR SUGGESTING THAT.

THAT MAKES ME FEEL A LOT BETTER.

ME TOO. I DON'T I MEAN, MAYOR'S APPRECIATION IS NICE, AND WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.

YEAH, PROBABLY A GOOD POLITICALLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEES WOULD GO MUCH FURTHER.

WE'D RATHER SHOW GRATITUDE.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VOLUNTEERING ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING.

YEAH, IT'S NEVER BEEN MONETARY.

WELL, AND TO SPEAK ON THAT, CHRISSY, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WERE THINKING ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THIS, THIS ROLL OF STUFF.

AND THIS WAS A COMMENT THAT I THINK WE WERE ALL GOING TO COME UP AGAINST TOWARDS THE END OF THIS.

IT JUST CAME ACROSS JOHN'S THOUGHT PROCESS BEFORE WE REACHED THE END.

YOU ALSO DID A 75, 25 OR 70, 70, 30, 70, 30.

WHAT'S YOUR FUND BALANCE IN HOTEL MOTEL NOW.

68,000.

THAT'S 50. THE TRANSFER IS 50,000.

NOW IT'S 50,000.

AFTER THE BUDGET. I MEAN, AFTER YOU CHANGE THIS.

RIGHT? OR ARE YOU SAYING.

NO. THAT MEANS AS OF RIGHT NOW.

AS OF AUGUST 31ST, IT WAS 50,000.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF OUR POCKET.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANKS.

HECTOR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

OUR FIRST CUT WE MADE WAS APPAREL.

WE TOOK OUT ALL OF THAT LINE ITEM FOR 4000.

OFFICE WAS THE NEXT ONE IN LINE.

WE TOOK A THOUSAND OUT OF THAT.

100% OF THE ACCOUNT JUST LIQUIDATED IT.

ROAD PAINTING. WE TOOK OUT HALF OF THAT ACCOUNT, WHICH IS $10,000.

NOW, WITH THAT ONE OBVIOUSLY, THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO GET HALF THE DISTANCE DONE.

BUT MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT WAS THE STREET BOND THAT WE UTILIZED AND WE, YOU KNOW, DID $50,000 WORTH OF ROAD STRIPE PAINTING RECENTLY.

SO I FIGURED THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO FLOAT US BY FOR THE YEAR EVEN THOUGH WE'RE CUTTING IT IN HALF.

RAM BUILDING WAS THE NEXT CUT WE MADE, WHICH WAS IT'S A COUNT OF $55,000 IN IT.

WE WIPED OUT THAT COMPLETE ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE SERVICE CENTER, WHICH IS CURRENTLY NOT THERE.

THE LEASE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE WE DON'T HAVE TO PERFORM THE MAINTENANCE ON THEM.

YOU KNOW, THE WILL. SCOTT PERFORMS THE MAINTENANCE ON THEM.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BUILDING FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER BUDGET CYCLE.

SO THERE'S NO SENSE IN HAVING ALL THAT IN THERE.

RECENT HURRICANE KNOCKED DOWN THE FENCE.

WE JUST PUT IT BACK UP.

SO I THINK IT'LL LAST ANOTHER BUDGET YEAR.

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THAT WAS AN INCREASE THAT WE HAD FOR ANGLETON UNIVERSITY.

AND THE MISCELLANEOUS LINE ITEM, WHICH IS JUST A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A CONTINGENCY POT OF MONEY THERE THAT CAN BE USED FOR ANYTHING.

AND WE JUST WIPE THAT ACCOUNT COMPLETELY OUT AT 15,000.

AND SO THE TOTAL WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUT OF 85,000.

BUT AGAIN, WITH US IT WAS THE ENTERPRISE FLEET WAS THROWN OVER FOR I BELIEVE, NINE 97,000IN SOME CHANGE.

SO IT KIND OF WASHED OUT ALL THE CUTS WE HAD MADE.

YOU'RE THE SECOND DEPARTMENT NOW WITH THE ENTERPRISE ADDED.

THERE'S NOT MANY MORE TO GO HERE.

THAT DOESN'T TOTAL UP 338,000.

SO I'LL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

THEY WEREN'T ALL FOR GENERAL FUND, OKAY? THEY WERE MOVED. SOME MOVED FROM GENERAL FUND OVER TO WATERFRONT.

WATERFRONT? YES.

AND THE RECREATION FUND.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? PUBLIC WORKS? YES.

OKAY. YOUR TREND ON APPAREL HAS ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY HIGH.

BUT YOUR GUYS ARE THERE WORKING IN THE DIRT AND THE MUD AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I GET IT.

CUTTING THAT ALL THE WAY AND LEAVING ONLY $1,000.

DO YOU THINK THAT'S A LITTLE TOO STEEP? SO WE HAD A LEASE THAT WE USED TO DO THE UNIFORMS THROUGH.

SO TWO YEARS AGO, WE DECIDED TO START PURCHASING OUR OWN.

SO IT'S THIS. SO THIS BUDGET YEAR WAS THE THIRD YEAR WE'VE BOUGHT UNIFORMS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF GUYS WITH TENURE IN THAT STREETS DEPARTMENT.

SO THEY'VE ALREADY HAD THREE YEARS WORTH OF OF UNIFORMS COME IN FOR THEM.

SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE OKAY WITH ONLY REDUCING THE AMOUNT THAT WE BUY THEM THIS YEAR.

NEW IS WHAT IS WHAT OUR THOUGHT PROCESS WAS ON THAT, SINCE THEY'VE ALREADY AGAIN BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND ACCUMULATED SEVERAL PAIRS OF EACH UNIFORM AND CUTTING YOUR OFFICE SUPPLIES TO ZERO.

SO IN THE UTILITY FUND WE HAVE OTHER OFFICE SUPPLIES.

SO YOU YOU BALANCED IT OFF ONE ACCOUNT TO THE OTHER, CORRECT? ONE FUND TO THE OTHER. CORRECT? YES. OKAY.

AND THEN ON YOUR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE BUILDING, I SEE YOU'RE CUTTING IT TO ZERO FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ESTIMATED YOU STILL HAVE ALMOST YOU HAVE OVER 50,000 STILL ESTIMATED FOR THIS YEAR.

THAT'S NOT BEEN SPENT.

CORRECT. AND THEN, I MEAN, THAT'S SOME MAYBE TO THINK ABOUT.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

AND THIS GOES FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S OVER IN THAT BUILDING OVER THERE.

AND CHRIS AS WELL, WHAT DOES IT COST US OR SAVE US TO FINISH OFF THESE OFFICES IN THIS BUILDING OVER HERE AND GET Y'ALL OUT OF THOSE BUILDINGS? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE GOING TO SAVE GETTING OUT OF THOSE PORTABLES? MARTHA, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? SURE. EVEN.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ANNEX? IF WE GOT THE ANNEX FINISHED, WE WOULD ONLY MOVE THE DIRECTORS AND THE ASSISTANT DIRECTORS OVER.

WE WOULDN'T MOVE THE CREW.

SO WHY COULDN'T WE? JUST TEMPORARILY.

WELL, WE'RE SAVING MONEY MOVING FROM ONE BUILDING TO ANOTHER.

I CAN ONLY TALK TO SPEAK TO THE PLAN OF THE WAY WE HAD IT LAID OUT.

I KNOW IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT OVER THE WEEKEND.

I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOVING ALL THIS.

WHY CAN'T WE SAVE MONEY THERE? WELL, WE CAN.

I MEAN, I JUST AGAIN, THIS IS A NEW CONCEPT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO MOVE VEHICLES OR WE GOT TO SHUTTLE PEOPLE NOW.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NEW BUILDINGS AND SEPARATING PEOPLE FROM THEIR EQUIPMENT, AND WE CAN DO THAT.

CERTAINLY. YEAH.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT WE GOT THIS BUILDING SITTING OVER HERE.

YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GET SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, SOME LITTLE CUBICLES OR SOMETHING TO PUT THEM IN FOR NOW AND SAVE THEM MONEY ON THE BUILDING, OR, I MEAN, THEY COULD OPERATE IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM OVER THERE.

WE COULD PUT UP DESKS AND CHAIRS AND SOMETHING.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE THE WATER AND THE WATER DEPARTMENT OVER THERE YET.

WE COULD LEAVE THEM HERE.

JUST MOVE THE THE ASSISTANTS AND EVERYBODY OVER THERE FOR NOW THAT NEED TO BE OVER THERE.

AND THEN MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE OPERATING.

AND I THINK I'VE DRIVEN BY A COUPLE OF TIMES DURING THE DAY.

I KNOW THAT YOUR GUYS, PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS ARE GONE MOST OF THE TIME OUT IN THE FIELDS, SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT HOW MUCH DO WE PAY A MONTH OR A YEAR FOR THAT?

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SO I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND 60.

IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK SO.

I'M NOT MAKING THAT MUCH.

THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION.

WHEN'S IT? WHEN'S THE TERM NEXT TERM UP? BEFORE WE HAVE TO SIGN THE LEASE AGAIN? WE JUST KEEP ROLLING THE LEASE SO ANNUALLY.

OR CAN WE GO TO LIKE A SIX MONTH OR A THREE MONTH OR SOMETHING? WE COULD DO, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE US TO GET THAT FUNCTIONAL? CORRECT. I HATE TO BE THE WORDS OF CAUTION, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBERS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND THAT WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO PLAN WITH TEMPORARY OFFICE SPACES, THAT WE CAN'T VIOLATE FIRE CODE.

MY THOUGHT PROCESS.

I THINK WE'D BE VIOLATING OUR CODE.

WE GOT SO MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THERE, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY EMPLOYEES IN THAT BUILDING.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BRINGING ALL THE PUBLIC WORKS OVER THERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOUSED IN THERE.

MY THOUGHT PROCESS WOULD BE IT'S WHERE THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO. LET'S LOOK AT IT.

IF IT MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE, IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD EXPLORE.

IF IT'S NOT I, IT'S FINE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO JUMP INTO IT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO MARRY IT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S IT'S AN IDEA THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED.

I THINK WE JUST DID THE CONTRACT LAST WEEK OR LAST MEETING, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

WE'RE TALKING NINE MONTHS OUT.

THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, I THINK.

NO, YOU'RE TALKING MORE THAN THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, NOT JANUARY IS WHEN THEY SAID I CAN REMEMBER THE DATES, THEY WOULD SUBMIT THE PLANS, AND THEN WE'D GO OUT FOR BID AND SELECT A BIDDER.

AND SO SO WE HAVE TIME, BUT THERE'S ALSO TIME TO SAVE MONEY.

IT GOES BOTH WAYS. WE CAN GET A LITTLE TIME TO DEVELOP A PLAN.

AND EVEN IF WE DECIDE TO EXECUTE IT, WE HAVE TIME TO TO HAVE COST SAVINGS AS WELL.

SO I MEAN IT'S BUT SO, SO THE BIDS ARE GOING TO THE BIDS THAT WE HAVE SCOPED IS TO BUILD OUT THAT AREA.

SO IF WE WANT TO MODIFY THAT THEN WE NEED TO COME BACK AND MAKE A PLAN AND REBID THEM.

NO I WOULDN'T CHANGE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I THINK YOU'RE FINE.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT DELAY MOVING CERTAIN PEOPLE OVER THERE, LIKE THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND SAVE THE WATER DEPARTMENT OVER HERE FOR NOW.

AND AND MOVE THE OTHER GUYS OVER INTO THAT BUILDING UNTIL THEY CAN.

I MEAN, COULD WE NOT COME UP WITH JUST PERMANENT BUILD OUT, RIGHT.

BUT TEMPORARY HOUSING? JUST AN IDEA THAT SOMEBODY.

SO JUST SCHEME A WAY TO DO IT.

SO WE'LL COME BACK AND BACK AND SAY, HEY, COME BACK.

I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO ASK US TO DO HERE'S AS SOON AS WE CAN GET OUT OF THAT RENTAL OVER THERE, AND HERE'S WHERE WE CAN PUT PEOPLE.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. Y'ALL ARE DEALING WITH IT EVERY DAY.

OKAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO WHAT IF AND WHAT IF AND FOR YOU SO YOU CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN.

LET'S DO IT. THAT'S WHERE IT GOES BACK.

I THINK IF THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU HAVE THE WILL TO DO IT, YOU'LL FIND A WAY TO GET IT DONE.

$60,000. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING OF.

I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS ALL HUDDLED UP ON THE BARN SOME PLACES BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT FITS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

AND PARKS WILL SEE HOW IT FITS FOR THEM, AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.

THANK YOU. HECTOR. ONE QUESTION.

OKAY. STILL NO SIDEWALKS IN YOUR BUDGET, RIGHT? NO. THERE IS NO SIDEWALK REPAIR SCHEDULED.

NOPE. AND ARPA AGAIN.

ARPA FUNDS ARE EXPENDED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, SO THERE WILL BE ZERO SIDEWALKS IMPROVEMENTS.

ADA. NONE OF THAT.

OKAY. NOW WORKING ON A HOME IN RANCHO.

YES, THE LAST OF IT.

AND THEN THAT'S IT. OKAY.

YEP. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

BILL. YOU CAN TAKE OVER NON-DEPARTMENTAL.

YES. I HAD THE SAME IDEA.

THE FIRST LINE THAT WE CUT WAS TELEPHONE EXPENSE.

JASON HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK, AND HE'S BEEN ABLE TO GET RID OF SOME UNUSED PHONE LINES AND MAKE SOME OTHER CHANGES TO OUR PHONE SERVICE.

SO WE'RE SAVING CUTTING THAT BY $16,000.

CITY CONNECT IS.

I'M NOT EVEN REAL SURE WHAT THAT WAS.

I DON'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF IT.

THAT'S $15,000.

THAT'S THE OLD MESSAGING SERVICE.

IS THAT GENESIS? THE CITY CONNECT, I BELIEVE, WAS THE IT WAS THE PRECURSOR TO THE OTHER ONE THAT BECAME GENESIS.

OH, THE BLACKBOARD CONNECT.

YES. YEAH. YEAH.

SO? SO, YES. SIMILAR TO GENESIS AND CODE RED.

YES. THAT'S THE BELIEF.

RIGHT, RIGHT. SO HAVE WE HAD SPENDING THIS YEAR IN IT?

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BUT IS EVERYTHING GOING INTO THAT ACCOUNT? GENESIS IS GOING INTO THAT ACCOUNT NOW.

I BELIEVE THAT'S COMING OUT OF EMERGENCY.

RIGHT? I BUDGETED FOR THAT OUT OF MY PURSE.

OKAY. PHIL, CAN YOU GET US A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT'S GOING IN THAT ACCOUNT? YES. THANK YOU.

AND THEN ALSO TO BACK UP TO THE PHONE SERVICE.

THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL CUTS IN THE COMING YEAR FOR ADDITIONAL COST SAVINGS, AND CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT.

THANK YOU. THANKS.

ARE YOU CUTTING ANGLETON UNIVERSITY COMPLETELY? YES, SIR. YOU ARE? YES, SIR. THAT 6000.

WHENEVER I WENT THROUGH THIS, I LOOKED AT OUR BANK CHARGES.

OUR BANK IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CHARGING US ANY FEES, SO I CUT THAT LINE OUT.

AND IN TOTAL, I WAS ABLE TO COME UP WITH $45,000 IN SAVINGS IN THIS DEPARTMENT.

YEAH, I HAD A COMMENT ON MY I DID MY OWN BUDGET CHANGES AS WELL, JUST GOING ALONG, AND I CUT YOUR BANK FEES AND SAID NO EXPENSE REGISTERED THIS YEAR AND WAS CREDITED IN FISCAL YEAR 23.

WHY DO WE HAVE THIS? SO GLAD YOU FOUND IT.

COUNCIL WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT ANGLETON UNIVERSITY BEING CUT? IT'S $6,000.

I THINK WE GOT THE MONEY.

YEAH. I HATE TO SEE IT CUT.

IT'S A REALLY GREAT LEARNING OPPORTUNITY.

AND A CHANCE TO KEEP OUR VOLUNTEERS EDUCATED AND ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS FOR FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

NOW, IF WE CAN'T GET PARTICIPANTS, THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT.

RIGHT. RIGHT.

IF WE'RE DOING IT FOR NOBODY.

RIGHT. LOW NUMBERS.

HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING ANGLETON UNIVERSITY FOR PEOPLE UNDER 18 ALLOWING THEM? TO ALLOW ANYONE.

WE DON'T HAVE A RESTRICTION.

IN FACT, THIS YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING EMPLOYEE SOME EMPLOYEES THROUGH THE PROGRAM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS GOT TO GET THE COMMENT, WELL, I'VE NEVER BEEN THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T HAVE A NEED TO, BUT IT'S EDUCATION ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION YOU WORK IN.

AND IT GOES BACK TO EMPLOYEE ORIENTATION.

YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CYCLE NEWER FOLKS THROUGH.

AND AGAIN SO THAT THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE NUMBERS.

NOT THAT YOU HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, BUT I'D ASK YOU TO BE SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN FOR A WHILE.

AGAIN, WE WE'LL COME BACK AND JUST FEEL LIKE TELL YOU HOW WE DO IT.

I THINK YOU CAN STILL CUT IT.

I MEAN, YOU'RE ESTIMATING EXPENSES THIS YEAR IS ONLY $2,000.

SO IF YOU DID 4000, JUST CUT 2000 OUT.

LEAVE 4000 IN.

YOU STILL HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT IN THERE, DOUBLE OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS YEAR.

I MEAN, I SUGGEST IT GOES BACK TO THAT 4000.

COUNCIL DO YOU ALL AGREE OR DISAGREE? I THINK THEY NEED DIRECTION FROM EVERYBODY.

WELL, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ONLY ITEM, SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE DIRECTION TO IT IN ITEM SIX.

OKAY. CAN YOU DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. WHERE ARE WE GOING FROM HERE? I WANTED TO SHOW YOU AGAIN THAT OUR TOTAL CUTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED WAS 5% OF THE BUDGET.

AND THEN IF WE GO TO.

WATER FUND.

WE DID NOT MAKE I DON'T THINK WE MADE VERY MANY CHANGES TO THE WATER FUND.

IT IS BALANCED AT THIS POINT.

SO BEFORE WE DO THE PACKAGES, WE'RE ESTIMATING A YEAR END FUND BALANCE AS OF THE END OF 24, 25IN THE WATER FUND OF $1.5 MILLION.

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OKAY.

FOR? FOR FISCAL YEAR 2223, WE SPENT $452,000 IN LEGAL FEES.

THAT INCLUDES RANDALL LAW OFFICE PERRY STEPHENS, OUR PROSECUTOR. PERDUE, BRANDON FIELDER AND MITCHELL TAX LAW.

YEAR TO DATE IN FISCAL YEAR 24, 23, 24, WE SPENT $440,000 IN LEGAL FEES.

THIS INFORMATION IS WHAT WAS IN THE PACKET.

I JUST BROKE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION.

CAN YOU BLOW IT UP, PLEASE? I APOLOGIZE.

OH, IT'S IN HERE ANYWAY.

SO I USED THE THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US IN OUR PACKET.

NOT WHAT'S UP THERE.

AND JUST A LITTLE SIMPLE DIVISION.

TASK AND FEES WERE SPREAD OVER.

I COUNTED 22 MONTHS ON WHAT WE RECEIVED.

AND THE TOTAL VALUE WITH THAT RANDALL LAW FIRM WAS $657,658.18.

WHEN I DIVIDED THAT NUMBER BY THE 22 MONTHS, THAT COMES OUT TO $29,893.55.

IF YOU DID JUST A SIMPLE KIND OF AVERAGE, CONSERVATIVELY OF $29,500 FOR 12 MONTHS, THAT'S $354,000 ANNUALLY.

THAT'S PRETTY ASTRONOMICAL TO ME.

I THINK WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET 405,000 TOTAL BETWEEN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

WELL, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR PROSECUTOR, HE'S.

I THINK YOU SAID EARLIER IT WAS 71,000 FOR SALARY.

THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT. UNLESS YOUR COLLECTION ATTORNEY'S PLUS YOUR COLLECTION ATTORNEY'S, WHICH THEY ARE, LET'S BE HONEST, A LITTLE OVER 50, 60,000.

WE'LL JUST SAY 60,000.

WELL, ANNUALLY.

SLOW DOWN, PLEASE. THERE'S NO WAY THERE'S 3046.

YEAR TO DATE OR 46 YEAR TO DATE.

SHOULD BE ABOUT 6046.

YEAR TO DATE. ACCORDING TO THAT.

WELL, IF YOU USE THE NUMBERS THAT PHIL PRESENTED TO US 23, 22, 23 AND 24.

I'M LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR 2324 COLUMN F.

OKAY. IT SAYS 46 154.

OKAY. LET'S JUST SAY.

OKAY. I'LL GIVE YOU 55,000.

JUST SAY. OKAY.

WELL, I MEAN, I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE.

LOOKS LIKE ABOUT THE AVERAGE UP THERE IS AROUND FIVE, SO.

YEAH. MAYBE 55,000.

YEAH. IT'S REALLY PROBABLY A LITTLE LESS.

BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING TEN MONTHS AT 46,000.

THAT'S ROUGHLY $4,600 TAKING THOSE TWO OUT.

TWO 79,000 279,000 IN THE BUDGET.

BUT I THINK SOMEBODY MADE A CHANGE TO THEIR LEGAL.

I THINK IT WAS OTIS. JUST.

I'M JUST. I'M JUST DOING THE SIMPLE MATH.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE RANDALL LAW FIRM.

YEAH, IT'S COMING OUT TO AN AVERAGE OF $29,893.55 OVER THAT 22 MONTH PERIOD.

THAT GIVES YOU A PRETTY GOOD BASELINE OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO PAY.

YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S NOT A SHORT WINDOW TO DETERMINE WHAT WE'RE PAYING IN LEGAL FEES JUST FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

WELL, MR. RANDALL IS HERE.

WE SEE HIM, BUT THAT'S NOT.

OKAY. SO THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ASKED

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HI, GRADY. CAN YOU GO TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? YES. I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS.

YOU DROVE DOWN HERE? DON'T WORRY. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THIS.

HEY, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. QUESTION FOR YOU.

WHAT IS THE.

SO IN THE MONTHLY BILLING AVERAGE IS ABOUT 30,000, I THINK IS WHAT WE SEE.

JUST MORE OR LESS.

WHAT MAKES UP THAT 30,000? OKAY. SO ALL.

I DID IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I DID A CALENDAR YEAR OF 23.

OKAY. WHETHER YOU DO, IT'S A 12 MONTH LOOK, WHETHER IT'S A FISCAL YEAR, A 22, 23 OR 23, 24 OR 20.

IT'S STILL A 12 MONTH LOAN ON AVERAGE.

ANGLETON IS SPENDING ABOUT 16,000 A MONTH ON WHAT I CALL GENERAL COUNCIL WORK.

AND THAT'S ABOUT AVERAGE.

WE REPRESENT ABOUT 17 DIFFERENT LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES OVER SIX DIFFERENT COUNTIES.

AND 16 IS ABOUT AVERAGE FOR HOW FAST YOU'RE GROWING, AND Y'ALL ARE GROWING FAST.

NOW, IF YOU TAKE 198,000, WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD, THAT'S ABOUT, AND YOU DIVIDE IT BY 225.

AND THAT'S HIGH BECAUSE I HAVE PARALEGALS DOING A LOT OF THE WORK, BUT I WANTED TO BE CONSERVATIVE AND ESTIMATE HIGH.

YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 225.

THAT'S ABOUT 18 HOURS OF 40 HOUR A WEEK ON GENERAL CITY SERVICES.

A MAJORITY OF WHAT IS BEING BILLED TO Y'ALL IS DEVELOPMENT AND OPEN RECORDS.

YOUR OPEN RECORDS ARE AN OUTLIER.

IT'S HIGH. IT THAT JUST IS.

NOW YOU HAVE, AS A RESIDENT, A PROFESSIONAL REQUESTER.

I'LL PUT IT DIPLOMATICALLY.

WE ARRESTED HIM IN ROSENBERG FOR DISRUPTING THE MEETING, BUT THE STATE IS.

AND YOU ALL ONE OF THE STAFF USED IT EARLIER.

UNFUNDED MANDATES.

THE STATE MANDATES YOU GIVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST DOCUMENT TO THE REQUESTER IMMEDIATELY, OR NO LATER THAN TEN DAYS BEFORE YOU HAVE TO APPEAL, AND THEY PROVIDE YOU NO FUNDS FOR THAT.

SO YOU EITHER TAKE A CHANCE OF DISCLOSING SOMEBODY'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER OR CREDIT CARD NUMBER OR DRIVER'S LICENSE. THEY HAVE A PAMPHLET THAT'S 200 PAGES THAT THEY CALL A HANDBOOK FOR OPEN RECORDS INFORMATION.

IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE 200 PAGES IN A PAMPHLET, IT'S NOT A HANDBOOK.

BUT THAT'S JUST TYPE OF UNFUNDED MANDATE YOU HAVE.

YOU DID IT JUST FOR YOU.

AND WE OFFERED TO TRAIN.

AND YOUR STAFF WAS VERY GOOD.

THEY SAID, NO, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE JUST FOR YOUR TRAINING.

AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK VERY FRANKLY TO YOU.

IF YOU RUN YOUR ORGANIZATION THIN, YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DEPTH.

IT'S LIKE BAYLOR TRYING TO PLAY FOOTBALL IN THE 60S WHEN A&M AND TEXAS TOOK ALL THE TALENT.

THERE IS NO DEPTH OR YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DEPTH.

SO I FEEL FOR A STAFF MEMBER THAT GETS AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S AN ONSLAUGHT OF DO YOU WANT TO DO? WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IT.

AND IT GOES TO USUALLY THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE I HAVE TO AS A FULL TIME CITY ATTORNEY, MAKE SURE I HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR Y'ALL'S REQUEST. NOW, I SAID YOU WERE AN OUTLIER BECAUSE THOSE COSTS ARE HIGH.

I CAN REDUCE THE LEGAL BUDGET BY 20% TONIGHT IF.

I JUST LISTENED TO THE PARADE OF CUTS HERE.

BUT IF YOU INTERNALIZE MOST OF THOSE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, YOU USED TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLING OPEN RECORDS.

YOU HAVE ONE YOU HAVE JUST FOR YOU, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE USED A LITTLE MORE RIGOROUSLY.

AND I'M NOT CRITICIZING.

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IT'S HARD TO DO ALL THIS STUFF BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO WRITE THE ENERGY AND THEY HAVE SO MUCH.

THEY HAVE A SELF-IMPOSED DEADLINE BY STATUTE THAT THEY ROUTINELY BUST.

BUT WE CAN'T BUST IN DAYS.

THAT'S ONE UNFUNDED MANDATE.

THE OTHER IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

WHEN SCOTT WAS THE CITY MANAGER, HE HAD A DEPUTY.

WHAT WAS UP? YEAH. RANDI. RANDI.

RANDI. SCOTT GAVE RANDI THE TASK OF WRITING A NEW DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR ANGLETON.

HE COPIED PART, BUT NOT ALL OF SUGARLAND'S.

AND WE GOT AHOLD OF IT AND SAID, THERE'S SOME REAL PROBLEMS HERE.

HE DID NOT WANT TO GO TO SCOTT, AND SCOTT DID NOT WANT TO GO TO COUNCIL.

SO YOU'VE GOT ONE THAT'S PUT TOGETHER WITH BALING WIRE AND DUCT TAPE.

NOW, I AM BEING VERY FRANK WITH YOU.

AND FOR SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO TRY TO SAVE HIS JOB, THIS IS NOT REALLY THE WAY I WAS PLANNING TO DO THIS, BUT IF YOU HAD AN ORDINANCE THAT SAID YOU WILL PAY A EVERGREEN DEPOSIT FOR US TO HANDLE YOUR PLAT REQUEST OR IT IS NOT CONSIDERED COMPLETE, AND WE WON'T PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR.

AND YOU HAD SOMEBODY ACTUALLY SENDING OUT THE INVOICES AND MONITORING TO MAKE SURE THAT'S DONE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY ME TO BE IN YOUR BOOKKEEPER.

THAT'S RIGHT. THEN THOSE FEES WOULD BE MORE GREATLY OFFSET BY THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS.

BUT THEY HAVE TO BE EVERGREEN.

I EVEN HAD HE'S ACTUALLY USED TO WORK FOR ME.

HE CONVINCED ONE CITY AND I DIDN'T CALL HIM TO GET WHO THE CITY WAS.

BUT HE SAID YOU HAD TO PUT UP A DEPOSIT.

AND SINCE I'M DOING YOUR WORK, IT'S MARKET RATES.

IT'S $400 AN HOUR.

IT'S NOT THE 225.

YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT EQUIVALENT UP IN THE CITY, AND THE CITY WILL BUILD AGAINST THAT FOR US TO HANDLE IT.

BECAUSE IT BOILS DOWN TO THIS.

WHY SHOULD YOU, AS A TAXPAYER, PAY FOR A FUTURE NON-TAXPAYER ETJ DWELLER? AND YOU ARE WHEN YOU'RE HAVING TO PROCESS THOSE PLATS? SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THOSE NUMBERS, THEY'RE NOT SHOWING THE NET EFFECT OF THE REIMBURSEMENTS.

NOW, IN THE 12 MONTHS IN 23, YOU SPENT $67,287 ON OPEN FILE DEVELOPMENTS WHILE WE WHEN WE OPENED THE MATTER.

THEN THERE WAS 20,000 FOR BUILDING SERVICES, WHICH IS REALLY A PLANNING QUESTION, BUT NOT REALLY SPECIFIC TO A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S 87,000.

THAT'S ABOUT SEVEN HOURS A WEEK ON DEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU'VE GOT 18 HOURS FOR GENERAL AND YOU'VE GOT SEVEN HOURS FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE REST OF IT IRS INVESTIGATIONS, CHRIS HILL, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

THE AMOUNT OF HOURS I CAME UP WITH IN A WEEK AT MOST WAS 26.

SO WHILE THE GROSS NUMBER.

I UNDERSTAND TRAVIS IS LARGE OVER WHATEVER MANY MONTHS.

YOU SAID THAT WAS MORE THAN 1618.

YOU START LOOKING CLOSER AT IT AND YOU GET IN THE WEEDS AND YOU SEE THAT I CAN CUT IT BY A THIRD.

IF YOU GET REIMBURSEMENTS FROM IF YOU SHIFT THE COST TO THE DEVELOPERS AND MAKE THEM START PAYING FOR THAT.

AND WE WORK HARDER AND SMARTER ON OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, AND YOU'RE NOT HAVING THE ATTORNEY DO SO MUCH BECAUSE MOST OF OUR OTHER CITIES ARE NOT DON'T HAVE IT AS THAT HIGH.

WHERE DO YOU MENTIONED IT BEING AN OUT? OURS IS AN OUTLIER.

YOU CAN'T. IT'S NOT APPLES AND APPLES, BUT PERCENTAGE WISE ARE WE LIKE 50% OR SORRY, TOTAL DOLLARS.

YEAH. BUT I MEAN COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES, THESE OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING DIRECTLY TO US WITH QUITE A BIT

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EVERY CITY HAS A CONTROVERSY, I'M SURE.

IN ONE CITY IN CHAMBERS COUNTY, IT WAS THE BRAND NEW GOLF COURSE AND REC CENTER.

THEY HAD TO HIRE AN EXTRA CITY SECRETARY TO HANDLE JUST THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.

YOU HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL REQUESTERS.

I CALL THEM POT STIRRERS, BUT THEY'RE THE PROFESSIONAL REQUESTERS.

THEY'RE ON A MISSION.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK, BUT WE HAVE A RIGHT IF THEY ARE A VEXATIOUS REQUESTER, TO MAKE THEM PUT UP.

WE HAVE ARROWS IN THE QUIVER.

CLARIFICATIONS. MAKE THEM PUT UP A DEPOSIT, BUT THEY HAVE TO CROSS A THRESHOLD AND YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THAT THRESHOLD.

IT'S I THINK, CECIL YOU'RE ASKING, ARE YOU GETTING MORE REQUESTS THAN OTHER CITIES? YES. NOT NECESSARILY.

IT'S JUST HOW YOU'RE HANDLING IT.

IT GOES IN CYCLES, AS MOST THINGS DO.

AND WHEN IT'S QUIET, IT'S QUIET.

AND WHEN IT'S NOT QUIET, IT'S EXPENSIVE.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE LEGAL, AS FAR AS THE GENERAL, THE 198, YOU'RE ABOUT YOU'RE YOU'RE THE AVERAGE, YOU'RE THE MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT WHERE YOU SHOULD BE.

I MEAN, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, THOSE GENERATIONAL LANDOWNERS AROUND ANGLETON ARE GOING TO CASH OUT.

THEY'RE GOING TO SELL THEIR FARMS AND RANCHES.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO THE CITY.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO COME TO THE CITY IF THEY'RE IN THE 1882 PLAT, AND EITHER YOU CONTROL IT OR THEY CONTROL YOU.

I HAPPEN TO KNOW REED WILSON.

HE'S A PERSONAL FRIEND OF MINE, WILSON, CRIBBS AND GORDON.

HE'S A GREAT REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY.

HIS FIRM HAS BEEN DOWN HERE, YOU KNOW, ALLEN, BOON AND HUMPHRIES, A BAKER.

I FORGOT THE NAME.

THERE ARE 7 TO $900 AN HOUR, AND THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO. THEY'RE GOING TO NEGOTIATE A TOUGH, TOUGH DEAL.

I NOTICED ON COLLINS PAPER, AND I CAN PASS IT OUT TO YOU IF YOU WANT.

SHE SAID AN ATTORNEY AND A ASSISTANT WAS ABOUT 318,000 TO CREATE A LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN IN THE CITY.

THE MANVILLE WILL START WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY HAD OLSON AND OLSON.

THE OLD TIME VERY GOOD LOCAL GOVERNMENT FIRM.

HE WAS THE OLD CITY OF HOUSTON ATTORNEY.

THE OLD MAN WAS THEY HAD THEM FOREVER AS THIRD PARTY COUNSEL, AND THEY CONVINCED BOBBY TO COME IN HOUSE. BOBBY AND I KNOW BOBBY.

HE IS A CAJUN HE'S WEB TOAD.

HE FISHES AND HUNTS A LOT.

HE NEGOTIATED.

HE WORKS FOUR DAYS A WEEK, PERIOD.

EVERY FRIDAY IS OFF, AND HE RELOADS HIS SHELLS.

HE TOLD ME, AND HE DOES OPEN RECORDS AND TRIES TO FIND SOMETHING TO KEEP HIM BUSY.

FRIENDS WOULD BE THE SAME THING WITH THE FORMER ASSOCIATE OF MINE, AND HE WAS TELLING ME HE WAS LOOKING FOR WORK.

I NOTICED ON THE LIST MANVILLE HAS NOW GONE BACK OUT TO THIRD PARTY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT DIDN'T WORK OUT OR SOMEBODY RETIRED, BUT THEY'RE NOT STAYING IN THE HOUSE.

ANOTHER ONE IN THE COUNTY NEXT DOOR IS FULCHER, AND I HAVE A HANDOUT FOR THAT.

I REPRESENTED FULCHER FOR 12 YEARS.

THEY WENT IN HOUSE.

THE CITY MANAGER THAT WENT IN HOUSE WAS FIRED YEARS LATER OR A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER AFTER A BUNCH OF COMPLAINTS.

BUT HE WAS PROMISING TO THEM THAT IF THEY WENT IN HOUSE, THEY'D SAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET SEASON IT WAS 100,000.

AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET SEASON, IT WAS 150,000.

HE WAS GOING TO SAVE THEM.

AND AT THE END OF THE BUDGET SEASON, IT WAS 200,000.

THEY WERE GOING TO SAVE IT AND WE WERE BILLING THEM ABOUT 322,000 A YEAR, BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY'RE NOW CLAIMING THEY'RE THE SECOND FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE STATE.

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IT'S 100,000 MORE THAN IT WAS WITH US TWO YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO.

AND 2024 IS FOUR.

IT'S 418.

THIS IS OFF THEIR WEBSITE.

I DIDN'T MAKE THESE NUMBERS UP.

THEY WENT IN HOUSE AND IT WAS A ONE ATTORNEY SHOP.

MY ASSOCIATE WENT TO WORK FOR THEM FULL TIME, SIX WEEKS.

HE RAISED HIS HAND AND SAID HE NEEDED OUTSIDE HELP.

THEY FOUND OUT BECAUSE I WAS SUPPLYING HIM IN-HOUSE FIVE DAYS A WEEK AT 225 AN HOUR, AND THEY FOUND OUT NO ONE WOULD MATCH THAT.

IT WAS A MINIMUM.

FIRST, NO ONE WOULD SEND SOMEBODY OUT THERE FULL TIME, AND THE MINIMUM WAS 250 AN HOUR.

AFTER SIX WEEKS, HE RAISED HIS HAND.

HE NEEDED HELP.

AND JUST LIKE IN LEAGUE CITY, BECAUSE I KNOW THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD MOVED FROM PEARLAND IN-HOUSE TO LEAGUE CITY IN-HOUSE.

AND THIS IS NOT EVEN COUNTING PROSECUTORS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROSECUTORS TOO.

THEY GOT A SECOND ATTORNEY.

AND NOW THAT CHARGE FROM 322 WHEN WE DID EVERYTHING IS NOW 429.

AND IT SAYS THE INCREASE IN FISCAL YEAR 25 IS INTENDED TO ALLOW FOR ROUTINE USE OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL AT $50,000.

AT 250 AN HOUR.

THEY CHANGED WHEN WE ASKED FOR A RAISE BECAUSE WE HADN'T HAD A RAISE IN SIX YEARS FROM 195 TO 225, WHICH IS WHAT WE CHARGE EVERY CITY.

THOSE 17 I MENTIONED ARE 225 AN HOUR.

NOW THE PORT AND COUNTIES, FOR ME, IT'S 400 AN HOUR.

THAT'S JUST THE MARKET.

AND I CALLED WHEN ALL THIS STARTED, AND I ASKED MY FRIENDS WHO PRACTICE IN BRAZORIA COUNTY MORE THAN I DO.

AND I'VE BEEN TRYING CASES DOWN HERE SINCE 1984 WHEN I MOVED HERE.

AND THEY'RE SAYING THE GOING RATE IS ABOUT 400.

SO I CAN HELP MANAGE YOUR BUDGET.

I WANT TO HELP DO THAT.

WE CAN MANAGE OPEN RECORDS BETTER AND INTERNALIZE THAT WHERE YOU'RE NOT PAYING 225 AN HOUR FOR IT. BUT ON THE SWEET SPOT IS THE DEVELOPERS PUSH THOSE COSTS ON THEM MORE THAN YOU ARE. BUT WHY HAS IT GOT.

WHY HAS IT COME TO THIS POINT? GRADY. THAT'S WHAT I'M FRUSTRATED WITH.

WHY HAVE WE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT? I MEAN, IF WE IF WE IDENTIFIED THIS AND KNEW THAT WE WERE SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERY SINGLE MONTH, WHY DID WE GET TO BUDGET? AND NOW WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION? I MEAN, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR THAT, HEY, YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS.

HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT? AND WHY ARE WE NOT GETTING PAID BACK ON THE DEVELOPMENTS? THAT THAT'S THE FRUSTRATION.

ARE YOU ASKING HIM WHY HE'S NOT POLICING HIS OWN BILLING? BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN SAVE US MONEY NOW.

AND I'M THINKING, WHERE WAS THIS INFORMATION A YEAR AGO? I MEAN, I'M NOT BLAMING YOU, PER SE, GRADY OR JUDITH.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A COLLECTIVE EFFORT HERE, BUT AS COUNCIL, WE NEED TO BE ARMED WITH THE BEST INFORMATION AND I DON'T CARE WHO IT COMES FROM.

BUT FIRST, THIS IS LOOKING BACK 12 MONTHS, RIGHT.

THIS IS 23.

THIS IS NOT 24 BUT 24.

I DID CHECK AND IT'S MIRRORING IT.

RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S CONSISTENT.

I MEAN, YOU SAY 16,000 A MONTH AND WE DIDN'T REALLY GET INTO WHAT MAKES UP THE REST OF IT.

BUT IT'S CONSISTENTLY ABOUT 30,000 A MONTH.

SO THERE'S A THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT NUMBER AND THAT NUMBER.

WELL, WHICH I ASSUME IS THE OPEN RECORDS 76,000.

GENERAL WAS 198.

AND THEN IT'S BASICALLY DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING SERVICES.

THE OTHERS. I WOULDN'T CALL IT CHUMP CHANGE.

IT'S TWO $2,000.

Y'ALL ARE CUTTING LANDSCAPING AND SIRING MAINTENANCE AND ALL THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY I DO.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT COME IN, THAT'S 3500 HOMES AND WE ALL KNOW WHICH DEVELOPMENT THAT IS.

AND IF YOU HAVE AN AVERAGE FAMILY SIZE OF FOUR, YOU'RE DOUBLING THE SIZE OF ANGLETON WHETHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT.

THAT'S TRANSFORMATIONAL.

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BECAUSE WHEN THAT ROAD IS LAID, THAT ROAD IS THERE.

I MEAN, HOW OLD ARE THESE ROADS? WHEN WERE THEY FIRST LAID OUT? THIS IS HOW YOU GET THAT.

BUT, I MEAN, I WENT THROUGH THIS WITH FULCHER.

I SAID, WE'LL BE A BATEMAN MAY GET A GATEKEEPER.

AND YOU ALL HAVE TO DECIDE WHO THE GATEKEEPER IS GOING TO BE.

AND WE TURN BACK SOME WORK IF WE GET A CALL.

NOT ROUTINELY, BUT YOU KNOW, IF A CLIENT CALLS AND WON'T ANSWER THE PHONE TO TO KIND OF ANSWER OR ANSWER WHAT TANNER WAS ASKING, WE GOT TO ANSWER THE PHONE OR THE ATTORNEY IS GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME.

BUT WE DO ASK, DID YOU RUN THIS THROUGH, CHRIS? AND SOMETIMES THE ANSWER IS NO.

AND WE SAY, WELL, GO ASK CHRIS.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME SELF-GOVERNING EFFORTS THERE.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GATEKEEPER, THEN HAVE A GATEKEEPER.

AND SOME CITIES IT ONLY GOES THROUGH THIS, THE CITY MANAGER.

I'VE HAD COUNCILS TRY TO SAY NO QUESTIONS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY EXCEPT THROUGH THE MAYOR.

WELL, THAT LASTED ABOUT TWO SECONDS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, I'M GOING TO.

IF I NEED TO CALL THE ATTORNEY, I'M GOING TO CALL THE ATTORNEY.

SO YOU KNOW, BUDGETS IS WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THINGS THAT WE DON'T KEEP A RUNNING TALLY UNLESS SOMEONE ASKS. WE'RE WE ARE BUSY ENOUGH.

AND I RUN A LEAN ORGANIZATION, TOO, THAT IF WE'RE OPEN, RECORDS REQUESTS COME IN.

THE STOPWATCH STARTS, AND THEN IT'S A HARD STOP AND PLANT QUESTIONS COME IN.

AND WE KNOW THAT 30 DAYS IS RUNNING.

THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO THERE.

YOU KNOW 18 HOURS, A 18 HOURS IN A WEEK.

SO A LITTLE OVER THREE HOURS A DAY ON GENERAL WORK.

AND THAT'S JUST THE GENERAL WORK FOR THE CITY.

A PERSONNEL ISSUE, A POLICE ISSUE.

AND THAT 318 FIGURE THAT COLLEEN HAD.

I THINK THAT'S LOW.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BAMBOOZLE YOU, BUT THAT'S 23% IN BENEFITS.

IF YOU LOOK AT FULCHER'S RECORD BENEFITS ARE ABOUT 30%.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT, 30%, 30 TO 40% IN BENEFITS.

AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING OVERHEAD.

SO Y'ALL ARE SITTING IN CITY HALL AND IT'S NOW DARK OUTSIDE AND WE HAVE LIGHTS AND AIR CONDITIONING.

WHO'S PAYING FOR THAT? MY 225 AN HOUR I CHARGE YOU INCLUDES MY RENT TO THE BUILDING THAT I AM CHARGED ELECTRIC, ELECTRICITY, INSURANCE, TAXES AND UTILITIES.

WELL, Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TAXES AND YOU PROVIDE YOUR OWN WATER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY MORE THAN YOU THINK TO INTERNALIZE A DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE HERE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

WE'RE HERE. ONE THING ABOUT TIGHT BUDGETS AND OUTSIDE COUNCIL, YOU CAN TURN THE SPIGOT OFF AND YOU CAN CONSUME A LOT LESS LEGAL WORK.

IF YOU'RE IN HOUSE, YOU GOT A PAYROLL TO MEET.

AND I KNOW I'M KIND OF A.

WHEN I FINISHED MY THIRD SEMESTER OF ACCOUNTING IN COLLEGE, I TOOK MY CHRISTMAS MONEY AND I THREW A PARTY AND GOT IN TROUBLE WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF A WILD PARTY. I WAS SO HAPPY TO BE OUT OF THE COUNTY.

AND NOW I USE ACCOUNTING EVERY DAY.

IT'S JUST GOD'S LITTLE JOKE.

BUT THE POINT OF THIS IS, SINCE I STARTED MY OWN FIRM IN 2005 AND WE GOT ANGLETON IN 2017, I DO A MARGIN REPORT EVERY MONTH.

I KNOW MY REVENUE PER BILLABLE HOUR.

I KNOW MY COSTS PER BILLABLE HOUR.

I DIVIDE THOSE AND I HAVE A MARGIN.

I CALL IT MY MARGIN REPORT.

I KNOW MY MARGIN BY MONTH SINCE 2005.

I KNOW WHAT IT COSTS JUST TO UNLOCK THE FRONT DOOR.

AND I DO THAT TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THOSE COSTS AND HAVE A FAIR BILLING RATE.

I FEEL LIKE I'M PREACHING AT Y'ALL.

I SHOULD BE ON A SOAPBOX, AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE, BUT.

[02:20:03]

OF COURSE, I MENTIONED HERE JUST IN THE PAST MONTH OR SO THAT WE'RE NOT SET UP AS A BANK.

WE SHOULD NOT BE THE BANK OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

WE SHOULDN'T BE LOANING ANYBODY MONEY TO REVIEW THEIR STUFF.

WHEREAS IT APPEARS TO ME WE ARE BASICALLY LOANING OUT MONEY, PAYING YOU TO REVIEW STUFF IN HOPES THAT THEY, THE DEVELOPERS, WILL PAY US BACK AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

AND IT'S JUST I'VE SEEN THIS KIND OF GO ON AND I'VE MADE I'VE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS RECENTLY.

SO AND I SEE TONIGHT QUITE A BIT OF THIS ARE FEES.

IF YOU HAD TO CHARGE A TIME, WE NEED TO BE RECOVERING THE FUNDS FROM PEOPLE THAT YOU DIDN'T DO THE BUSINESS FOR, FOR US.

I FEEL LIKE AN ITINERANT PREACHER BECAUSE I GO TO THESE SIX COUNTIES AND I PREACH THIS VERY WORD, GOSPEL.

MAKE THEM PAY FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

THEY SHOULD BE.

IT SHOULD BE. AND I HAVE HAD.

IT'S NOT PUSHBACK, BUT IT'S JUST COLD RECEPTION.

NO ONE WANTS TO DO IT BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE AT THAT TIME ARE TRYING TO GET THE GROWTH.

Y'ALL ARE NOT TRYING TO GET GROWTH.

GROWTH IS AT YOUR FRONT DOORSTEP, AND YOU CAN BE A LITTLE MORE HARD NOSED AND SAY, PAY AT THE DOOR.

THERE'S A COVER CHARGE TO COME IN.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THE THE ONE THING ABOUT THIS AND I, I DID, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING I WENT OVER ANY OF YOUR NUMBERS.

I'M JUST GOING OFF OF WHAT I'M BEING TOLD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE IF WE'RE STARING DOWN THE BARREL OF THAT, THAT VOLUME OF UNRECOVERED COSTS, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY BEHIND THIS DESK IS EXPECTING FOR YOU TO BE THE GATE KEEPER FOR THE CITY.

I MEAN, MAYBE ONE DAY UNICEF OR SOMEBODY WILL OPEN UP A LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND.

AND IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, PRO BONO.

BUT UNTIL THEN, I GUESS YOU'RE THE GUY TO TALK TO.

WELL. YOU ALL CAME TO US IN 2017 WHEN MARY KAY WAS RETIRING.

SO THIS WAS THE IDEA.

AND WE'VE ENJOYED THE THE SEVEN YEARS AND HOPE TO CONTINUE THAT.

BUT IT IS A UNIQUE LITTLE AREA OF LAW.

WE DO I DO ACTUALLY I REVIEW EVERY BILL THAT GOES OUT.

I'LL BET YOU DO. NO.

I CAN TRUST SOME ATTORNEYS MORE THAN OTHERS, AND I CUT FEES WHEN I SAY THIS IS JUST UNFAIR.

THE COST FOR THIS, OR DID YOU CALL THE CLIENT AND CLEAR IT WITH THEM BEFOREHAND? THAT HAPPENS.

NOT OFTEN. BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BE A WELL-OILED, EFFICIENT, EFFECTIVE MACHINE.

BUT I JUST I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE HAVE A REQUEST COME IN AND YOU TURN IT DOWN.

I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T DO THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S BUSINESS. AND I'M GOING TO TAKE IT WELL, AND I AND I EXPECT I EXPECT THAT FROM ANYONE LIKE ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAID, ALL I HAVE TO SELL IS MY TIME AND ADVICE. SO THAT'S WHAT.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

YOU COME TONIGHT.

YOU'RE TELLING US YOU CAN SAVE US MONEY IF YOU DO TWO THINGS? OKAY. AWARDS AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT WILL HELP REDUCE YOUR LEGAL COSTS.

BUT THE 225 AN HOUR IS WHAT I CHARGE EVERY CITY.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

WHY DID YOU COME TONIGHT? TO TELL US THIS? BECAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY. IF YOU KNEW YOU WERE OUR ATTORNEY AND YOU COULD SAVE US MONEY, WHAT CAUSED YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN TO SHOW UP AT THIS MOMENT TO TELL US YOU COULD SAVE US MONEY. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.

AUGUST 23RD AT 11:00 AT NIGHT.

THAT'S MY QUESTION.

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP THE IDEA THAT MAYBE WE SWITCH COUNCIL BEFORE YOU THINK, MAN, MAYBE I SHOULD LOOK INTO SAVING THIS CITY SOME MONEY.

I HEARD NO COMPLAINTS.

THAT'S. THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.

YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU. THAT'S.

IT'S ALL BUSINESS, I GOT IT.

HEY, MICHELLE, REAL QUICK ON OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.

DO ALL OF THEM COME TO YOU? SO. I DO SEE ALL OF THEM.

[02:25:02]

SO YOU DON'T SEE ALL OF THEM.

CHIEF OR POLICE? GET SOME OF THEM AND YOU GET SOME OF THEM.

SOME OF THEM. RIGHT.

AND THEN HOW OFTEN ARE YOU SENDING ALL YOUR STUFF TO JUDITH FOR REVIEW? WELL, IT JUST DEPENDS IF WE THINK THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, WE'LL SEND IT TO JUDITH PD'S REQUEST.

I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 90% OF THOSE GET SENT TO JUDITH BECAUSE THEY ARE MOSTLY CONFIDENTIAL.

AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH WRITING AG OPINIONS.

SO WE DON'T WRITE AG OPINIONS.

JUDITH DOES THAT FOR US.

AND MOST OF THE AG OPINIONS DO COME FROM PD.

I WOULD SAY THAT THE RECORDS PERSON THERE DOES NOT HAVE THE TRAINING THAT THEY NEED.

AND BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BUDGET, WE COULD WRITE OUR OWN AG OPINIONS AND SAVE COST, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADD STAFF.

THAT TAKES TIME.

OKAY. OUR OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, JUST SINCE JANUARY, WE RECEIVED 203 REQUESTS.

AND THEN THERE'S 54 LAW ENFORCEMENT REQUESTS.

WE STILL HAVE OVER MAYBE APPROXIMATELY 15 TO 20 PENDING AG OPINIONS.

THE 203 ARE TO YOU, GENERAL? YES. OKAY.

SO A TOTAL OF 257 TOTAL.

BETWEEN THE TWO DEPARTMENTS.

YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND I GUESS, JUDITH, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU SPEND ON 257 OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS? I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL ME.

OKAY. THAT, YOU KNOW, INVARIABLY A LOT OF THEM GO TO THE OTHER ATTORNEYS IN OUR OFFICE.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN DO RIGHT AWAY, I'LL DO IT RIGHT AWAY.

I'VE BEEN PRACTICING FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, SO I'M PROBABLY FASTER THAN ANY OTHER ATTORNEY IN OUR OFFICE.

SO I DO TRY AND SAVE YOU THE TIME AND MONEY WITH MY SPEED, BUT I CAN'T DO THEM ALL, SO THEY'RE DELEGATED.

IF IT IS A REQUEST THAT HAS A LOT OF RECORDS YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US REVIEWING VIDEO, AUDIO DOCUMENTATION, AND THEN WE HAVE TO SEND THE REQUEST FOR AN OPINION LETTER.

WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE RESPONSE.

AND THE WHOLE TIME WE HAVE TO KEEP COMMUNICATING WITH THE REQUESTER.

IT IS TIME CONSUMING.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S THE MOST RIDICULOUS STATUTORY SYSTEM THAT TEXAS PROBABLY HAS.

SO DO YOU THINK THE OTHER HALF OF MOST OF THAT BILL IS COMING FROM OPEN RECORDS REQUEST? MONTHLY BILLS? WELL, I THINK GRADY SAID THAT THERE'S SOME DEVELOPMENT.

OPEN RECORDS IS 70,000 A YEAR.

76,000 DIVIDED BY 12.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE PARALEGALS DOING MOST OF IT, IT'S ABOUT SEVEN HOURS A WEEK.

MOST CITIES HAVE A RECORDS MANAGEMENT PERSON OR AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST CLERK THAT SIMPLY JUST WORKS ON OPEN RECORDS.

IT'S A BIG JOB AND IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING.

OKAY. HOW MANY HOURS? HOW MANY HOURS PER WEEK DOES.

WELL, I'VE GOT MULTIPLE QUESTIONS.

GO FOR IT. HOW MANY HOURS PER WEEK DOES JUDITH WORK ON ANGLETON CITY BUSINESS? WORK ON ANGLETON CITY BUSINESS? I HAVE NO IDEA.

SHE HAS OTHER CLIENTS BESIDES THAT.

OKAY. THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION.

WHAT ARE THE OTHER CLIENTS? HOW MANY? WHAT ARE THE OTHER CLIENTS? YEAH. HOW MANY OTHER CITIES DOES DO SHE HAVE CLIENTS? WHAT OTHER? YOU'RE ASKING ME WHAT OTHER WORK I DO BESIDES WHAT I DO FOR ANGLETON? CORRECT. WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE YOU EMPLOYED BY? I WORK WITH ALL OF OUR CITIES, BUT ALL OF OUR CITIES.

I'M TRYING TO GET AN ACTUAL NUMBER.

17. BEAR WITH ME.

I'M GENERALLY ON A DAILY BASIS WORKING WITH MONT-BELLEVUE ROSENBERG.

MEADOWS PLACE.

COULD BE ROMAN FOREST.

OAK CITY OF OAK RIDGE NORTH.

I'M THE PROSECUTOR IN MONT BELVIEU.

MY BUSINESS MODEL IS NOT TO SILO ATTORNEYS WITH CITIES, BUT TO HAVE ALL ATTORNEYS EXPOSED TO ALL CITIES, BECAUSE ALL CITIES HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES AND YOU ALL CHANGE EVERY MAY.

SO WE ALL WORK ON ALL CITIES ALL THE TIME.

[02:30:04]

I MEAN, WE WE'RE SPENDING.

I CALCULATED ABOUT $163 AN HOUR.

I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING $225 AN HOUR.

OUR BILLS ARE 225 AN HOUR, RIGHT? THAT'S. THIS IS 12 MONTHS WORTH OF BILLS.

Y'ALL GET A 12TH OF THIS EVERY MONTH.

OKAY. COLLEEN.

REAL QUICK. THAT WOULD COME OUT TO RIGHT ABOUT 130 HOURS A MONTH FOR ANGLETON.

FOR ANGLETON. I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE 30 DIVIDED BY 225.

WELL, IT WAS 378 IS WHAT I GOT.

FIVE. THREE. SEVEN. EIGHT.

ONE, TWO. I EVEN DID LESS.

I DID TWO 29,000 DIVIDED BY 225.

WELL, SOME OF THE HOURS YOU MIGHT BE GETTING A LOWER RATE BECAUSE WE FILL OUT THE ABOUT 140.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT.

WHAT IF THAT RATE IS ACTUALLY ATTORNEY WORK? WELL, YES, BUT WE INVOICE YOU EVERY 30 DAYS.

HE DID STATE AND JUDITH DID THAT.

SOMETIMES YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT PAYING THAT FULL RATE BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE A PARALEGALS HANDLING SOMETHING.

YEAH, THAT'S WHY I SAID SO.

THE BILLABLE HOURS MAY BE RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHY I SAID IT EARLIER.

INSTEAD OF USING 225 WHEN I DID THE MATH HOURLY RATE, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT $163.

AND THAT'S HOW I KNEW HOW YOU COME UP WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T.

BUT I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT, HOW MANY HOURS A WEEK WERE ACTUALLY NEEDING AN ATTORNEY TO WORK ON OUR BUSINESS.

WELL, YOU KNOW THAT THAT THAT DEPENDS.

IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHAT OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS WE HAVE.

I MEAN, AND AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THE BIG DEAL IS THAT WE HAVE UNRECOVERED RECOVERED CALLS.

I ALSO NOTICED THAT THESE FIGURES ARE ALWAYS.

IT CAN'T BE TOO VARIABLE BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS LITERALLY BETWEEN.

RIGHT AROUND $30,000.

SO IT'S NOT THAT WIDE OF A VARIABLE.

IT'S NOT FLUCTUATING THAT MUCH.

IT'S NOT LIKE SOME MONTHS ARE REALLY TOUGH AND SOME MONTHS ARE REALLY EASY.

SOMEHOW THE BILL ALWAYS IS AROUND $30,000.

YES. IT'S CONSISTENT.

SO I MEAN, IT'S YOU CAN TELL IT'S THAT THEY CAN SAY THAT, BUT SOMEHOW IT'S BEING MADE UP BY THE WAYS UNTIL YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO BLOW UP, LIKE A POLICE CHIEF OR A CITY MANAGER. CORRECT.

WE HAVE TO DO THOSE INVESTIGATIONS.

WE'VE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.

WE'VE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.

DON'T WANT TO REPEAT IT.

COLLEEN, REAL QUICK, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE NUMBERS YOU SENT US.

YES. WHAT CITIES DID YOU USE FOR THAT ANALYSIS? I'M NOT SURE IF YOU RECEIVED MY MEMO, BUT I DID.

OKAY. WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT ALL OUT IN OPEN RECORDS.

ALL OF THESE. ALVIN. BAY CITY.

BELLEVILLE. BELTON.

BRENHAM. DANBURY, DAYTON.

DEER PARK, EL. EL.

CAMPO, FREEPORT.

FULSHEAR. HUMBLE, IOWA COLONY.

KEMAH. LAKE. JACKSON, LA.

MARQUE LA. PORT, MANVEL, MISSOURI.

CITY, MONT. BELVIEU, PASADENA.

RICHMOND. ROSENBERG, STAFFORD, TEXAS.

CITY, UNIVERSITY PLACE, WEBSTER AND WHARTON.

RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN YOU DID YOUR ANALYSIS ONCE.

YOU SOME OF THEM, YOU KNEW HOW MANY THEY HAD IN HOUSE.

SOME OF THEM YOU DIDN'T.

YES. SO THESE NUMBERS ARE SUBJECT TO HOW MANY EVER EMPLOYEES THEY HAVE IN THAT DEPARTMENT, OR DID YOU KNOW HOW MANY THEY HAD IN EACH DEPARTMENT? I ASKED THEM, SO IF THEY HAD A LEGAL DEPARTMENT, I SAID, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ATTORNEY? DO YOU HAVE AN ASSISTANT ATTORNEY, A CLERICAL PERSON? WHAT DO YOU HAVE? AND THEN THEY GAVE ME THAT RESPONSE.

OKAY. RIGHT NOW I DID NOT COLLECT THEIR WAGES FOR THOSE POSITIONS.

I JUST COLLECTED THE THE WAGE OF THE ATTORNEY.

I SPOKE WITH ALVIN ATTORNEY.

SHE. SHE TOLD ME DIRECTLY.

SHE MAKES 150.

YOU WROTE DOWN 199.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

IT CAME FROM THEIR HR DIRECTOR.

OKAY. I MEAN, I'M JUST.

THE THING IS, IS CONSISTENTLY MOST OF THESE ARE UNDER 200,000.

YES. AND THEN WHEN YOU ADD IN BENEFITS TAMARIS, YOU KNOW, SOME CITIES ARE SEVEN WHERE WE'RE AT 6%.

SO I JUST WENT WITH SIX AND A HALF.

AND THEN YOU ADD IN THE TAXES, FICA AND THEN YOU.

I AVERAGED OUR LOWEST COST OF BENEFITS THAT WE PROVIDE RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH THAT.

RIGHT. IF YOU PAID $150,000 TO A PERSON IN HOUSE, AND YOU PAID THEM 30% IN BENEFITS IF YOU AVERAGED OR BUDGETED 30% IN BENEFITS, THAT'S 195,000 200,000.

I'M LOOKING AT THESE AND EVEN THESE.

AND WE'VE TALKED BEFORE THESE COMPS.

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YOU STILL REPRESENT MONT BELVIEU, DON'T YOU? I DO. WHEN I LOOK AT MARKET RATE, I LOOK AT TWO THINGS.

I LOOK AT POPULATION SIZE.

AND MANY TIMES WHEN I'VE BROUGHT THAT TO COUNCIL, THEY'VE ASKED, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THE LOCAL AREA.

SO THIS TIME I COMBINED BOTH BOTH POPULATION AND THOSE IN THE LOCAL AREA.

I THINK WE REALLY CAN.

I THINK IOWA COLONY IS A GREAT REPRESENTATION.

I WOULD AGREE, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER CAPACITY IN MONT BELVIEU, AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE MY CUSTOMERS RESIDE IN THESE AREAS.

SO I KNOW WHAT'S THERE.

AND THERE IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TAX BASE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY SKEW THE, THE THE NUMBER IS HIGHER. CAN I CHARGE MY VALUE TO 25 AN HOUR? JUST LIKE YOU? AND AGAIN, BELLEVUE IS OUTSOURCED.

YEAH. YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE ON COUNCIL IS ARGUING WITH THE RATE THAT YOU'RE CHARGING US.

IT'S ABOUT THE AMOUNT AND VOLUME THAT'S GOING THROUGH THAT.

WHAT COULD WE DO IN-HOUSE? SAVE MONEY.

THAT'S. I MEAN, JUST GETTING THE BRASS TACKS HERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

IF WE HIRED SOMEBODY AND THEY WERE DOING OPEN RECORDS, REQUEST DEVELOPMENT SERVICE REVIEWS AND WHAT WE HAD TO FARM OUT, WE FARMED OUT.

WE'RE NOT OF THE MINDSET THAT WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO FARM OUT SOMETHING, BUT I THINK IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT OF HOW LONG DOES THE CITY OF ANGLETON CONTINUE TO USE A THIRD PARTY FOR LEGAL COUNSEL.

INSTEAD OF CONTROLLING ITS OWN COSTS INTERNALLY AND SUPPLEMENTING WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL BECAUSE THERE'S A THERE'S A TRANSITION SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? WHAT IS THAT TRANSITION? AND MAYBE IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, YOU COULD TELL US AT WHAT POPULATION RATE DO YOU.

MOST CITIES USUALLY GO IN-HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING.

I MEAN, THE LIST HERE, THERE'S QUITE A FEW IN-HOUSE.

WE USED TO BE IN-HOUSE.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE TEXAS CITY ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION MEETING.

AND WHERE CITIES SHOULD GO IN IS ABOUT 75,000IN POPULATION.

YOU GET SOME SYNERGY AT THAT POINT.

HOUSTON HAS 100 IN-HOUSE CITY ATTORNEYS.

THERE ARE 4 MILLION.

THEY HAVE TEN DIFFERENT LEGAL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

THEY'RE ALSO BROKE, AND THEY'RE ALSO RAISING THEIR TAXES TO REPLENISH THEIR OPERATING RESERVES BECAUSE OF THE DERECHO AND THE HURRICANE.

IS THAT IT? IS THAT IT WAS IN THE PAPER YESTERDAY? OKAY. I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WERE TRYING TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT OUR BUDGET DECISIONS.

NO, NO, IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS A DIRECT COMMENT.

NO, THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS.

THAT'S NOT MINE. WELL, THAT SURE SOUNDED THAT WAY.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A STRIKE AT US.

I'M SORRY. NO, NOT AT ALL.

OKAY. WHAT I'M SAYING IS AT 378 FOR THE 12 MONTHS IN 23, IF YOU CUT.

A GOOD PORTION OF THE 76 AND OPEN RECORDS AND A GOOD.

AND YOU GET REIMBURSED ON DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE BELOW WHAT? YOU'RE BELOW THE 318 COLLEEN CODE.

THAT'S A THAT'S A BUT WE DON'T OPEN RECORDS.

THAT ITSELF IS 20% 80% OF WHAT WE CHARGE, BUT I THINK WE AS A COUNCIL DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL BE 318.

I MEAN, IT COULD BE, BUT IF YOU THINK IT'S 318, I'M GOING TO GO WITH HER.

OKAY. DON'T DON'T TAKE ME OUT OF THAT.

WE ALL RIGHT? ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS A CASE STUDY IS FULCHER AND IT.

HE PROMISED A SAVINGS, AND IT COST MORE.

WELL, WHY NOT OTHER CITIES? WHY? FULCHER? WHAT'S GOING ON? OKAY, WELL, WHY NOT LAKE JACKSON? THEY'RE LITERALLY 15 MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD.

YEAH, THEY ARE IN-HOUSE WITH AN ATTORNEY WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR ROUGHLY 20 YEARS, AND THEY PAY $193,000.

WHAT IS OUR. OKAY.

OKAY. WELL, WHY? YOU'RE JUST CHERRY PICKING, THOUGH.

YOU'RE PICKING. I'M PICKING FULCHER, TO USE MY EXAMPLE.

WHAT CAN I CHERRY PICK AND SAY, LAKE JACKSON? YOU CAN. WHAT IS THE RATE OF GROWTH OF THIS FIRST OR THIRD FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE STATE? FOR SURE IS THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE FOR LANDLOCKED.

YEAH I UNDERSTAND.

SO WHERE WHERE WHERE'S OUR WHERE'S OUR WATER CAPACITY COMING FROM? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO START GROWING?

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WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW WATER PLANT ANYTIME SOON.

WE'RE GOING TO START ACQUIRING MORE WATER.

WE'RE PRETTY LANDLOCKED, TOO.

I MEAN, HONEST QUESTION.

I MEAN, ONE SUBDIVISION CAN CONSUME A THOUSAND TAPS.

YEAH. JUST IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

LANDLOCKED? YEAH, IT'S A DIFFERENT.

IT'S THE SAME, SAME CONCEPT.

I CAN ONLY GO WITH THE NUMBERS YOU ALL PROVIDED ME WHEN I PULLED OFF THE INTERNET.

BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S ON THE INTERNET.

IT'S ALWAYS TRUE.

RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW THE GROWTH RATE.

YOU KNOW, I COULD CHERRY PICK PASADENA, WHICH IS REALLY HIGH.

OUR BITE DOWN THERE IN-HOUSE.

BUT YOU YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET CHEAPER? I DON'T THINK YOU ARE.

AND YOU HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO REDUCE YOUR CONSUMPTION OF LEGAL SERVICES WITH ME BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T CALL VERSUS IN-HOUSE, WHERE I'M SAYING SHOWING ANYWHERE FROM 22 TO 26 HOURS PER WEEK IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. DID YOU I FEEL LIKE YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER, BUT WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE? THERE WAS A THERE WERE THERE WERE SOME NUMBERS YOU MAY HAVE THROWN OUT EARLIER.

AGAIN, I MAY BE MISTAKEN, BUT THERE WAS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE IF WE DID DUE DILIGENCE AND COST RECOVERY THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THERE WAS A NUMBER.

AND THAT BOTTOM LINE, WERE YOU SUBTRACTED OUT OF YOUR, OUT OF YOUR BASIC CHARGE WAS WHAT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IF WE'RE CONTINUING TO USE YOU GUYS THAT WE WOULD GET AWAY FROM THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, ESPECIALLY ASSUMING THAT 90% OF THOSE COMING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE NEED TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL.

SO WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN? DID YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU, BRODY? I DO. SO IF WE JUST DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THE OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS AND WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WAS, IF IT WAS, IF WE WERE RECOVERING EVERYTHING, WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE RECOVERING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND RECHARGING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GROUP.

WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE REDUCED TO.

SO LET ME RIDDLE YOU THIS.

ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU HAVE AN IN-HOUSE ATTORNEY AT WHATEVER COST THAT IS WHY ARE YOU HAVING AN ATTORNEY RATE WERE TO DO OPEN RECORDS WHEN YOU COULD EITHER HIRE OR HAVE A STAFF PERSON.

IF THEY HAVE CAPACITY, DO IT AT A CHEAPER RATE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO KEEP YOU AND HIRE ANOTHER PERSON.

IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A SAVINGS.

WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO HIRE ANOTHER PERSON.

IT'S ADDED STAFF, BUT YOU'RE JUST PAYING YOUR STAFF TO DO IT.

YES, THEY'RE PAYING PROBABLY AT A HIGHER RATE THAN WE'D GO IN-HOUSE, BUT WE WOULD STILL BE PAYING.

WE'D HAVE TO GO BRING IN AN EMPLOYEE TO DO THAT JOB.

BUT MY QUESTION WAS JUST IF YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE IN YOUR INVOICED COSTS MINUS WHAT YOU BELIEVE.

WE SHOULD BE RECOVERING THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.

OKAY. WE WE DID NOT GET AWAY FROM THE OPEN RECORDS STUFF AND THAT JUST KEPT THAT WAS THE STATUS QUO WAS MAINTAINED.

SO LET ME WALK YOU.

I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO END UP, BUT LET ME WALK YOU THERE.

IF WE WERE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND RECHARGE IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

$67,287 IS WHAT THIS FIRM CHARGED YOU FOR DEVELOPMENT.

FOR ACTUAL FILES, WE OPEN FOR THE NINE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENTS WE HANDLED IN 23.

NOW THERE IS A LIST I HAVE OF 25 DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS ON THE BOOKS, BUT I DON'T MONITOR THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS.

67,000 IS THE NUMBER THAT YOU WERE CHARGED.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE REIMBURSED ANY OF THAT OR NOT, BUT BUT THAT'S JUST I'M JUST SAYING THINGS THAT YOU FELT LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE WE SHOULD HAVE RECOVERED BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THOSE PROBABLY ARE.

THEN THERE'S ANOTHER 20,000, WHICH IS BUILDING SERVICES, AND THAT IS GENERAL PLANNING QUESTIONS.

AND. MORE DEVELOPMENT THAN JUST PERSONNEL OR POLICE OR WHATEVER.

SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 87,000.

SOME NUMBER OF THAT SHOULD BE REIMBURSED BY DEVELOPERS.

NOW WHETHER IT'S 100%, 90% OR 50% THAT SHOULD BE REIMBURSED BACK TO YOU, BACK TO THE CITY.

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SO WE CAN'T LOOK AT THIS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET APPLES TO APPLES.

YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT.

HE'S HE'S SAYING 20% OF HIS CHARGES IS WHAT HE'S CHARGING FOR DEVELOPMENT, ESSENTIALLY.

AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET 100% RECAP ON THAT.

WELL, I'M NOT EXPECTING THAT.

I WAS KIND OF WONDERING WHAT.

ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR A WHILE.

DO WE WANT TO? I MEAN, THERE IS NO ACTION WE CAN TAKE ON THIS ITEM, AS JUDITH HAS ALREADY POINTED OUT.

SO. DO WE WANT TO MOVE ON TO ENGINEERING REAL QUICK? YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. GREG. YEAH.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT.

WELL, I KNOW I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS STUFF YOUR FIRM HAS BEEN TASKED WITH IS FOR STUFF THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY, OR BEING HERE TO BE WITH US TONIGHT.

OPEN RECORDS, REQUESTS, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN HOUSE STUFF.

THE THINGS THAT DEVELOPERS BRING TO US.

YOU'RE ASKED TO REVIEW ALL THIS.

THE CONTRACTS, THE PIDS, THE STUFF THAT YOU TAKE PART IN THAT TOO.

WELL, I CONSIDER THOSE FUNDS THAT THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE REIMBURSING THE CITY FOR.

AND THAT'S AND THEN THAT JUST GOES BACK AGAINST YOUR, YOUR PIECE OF THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING YOU, NOT US.

THERE ARE 28 DIFFERENT CODES ONLINE AT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE.ORG OR.GOV.

WE'RE IN 22 OF THOSE 28 CODES IN ANY ONE MONTH, AND I'M IN EIGHT OF THEM.

EVERY WEEK A MONTH.

MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT IS THE WATER CODE.

YOUR KIDS AND YOUR P THREE ORGANIZATION HAS YOU.

I MEAN THEY'VE TOLD US YOU HAVE MORE KIDS THAN ANY OTHER CITY THEY KNOW IN TEXAS.

AND YOU GOT TO MANAGE THAT FOR THE NEXT 40 YEARS.

KIDS, COME OUT OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

TERS TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.

THAT'S OUT OF THE TAX CODE.

YEAH, I MEAN, I'M SURPRISED I'M NOT ANGRY RIGHT NOW JUST TRYING TO BALANCE ALL THOSE CODES.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THOSE DEVELOPER ATTORNEYS ARE COMING AT YOU AND THAT THEY SHOULD FRANKLY BEAR THE COST.

SO, MR. MAYOR, COULDN'T WE DO THAT ANYWAY? I MEAN, WE COULD DO THAT WITH IN-HOUSE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO NEED AN OUT OF SIGHT COUNCIL.

THAT'S FINE. OUT OF COUNCIL? I THINK SO.

I MEAN, SO THERE'S. SO WE COULD SATISFY MR. BOOTH AND STILL DO THAT WITH AN IN-HOUSE COUNSEL? WELL. MR.. WELL, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR MR..

I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING FOR MR.. BOOTH, BUT HIS HIS CONCERN WAS THE FEES BEING I DON'T BELIEVE $318,000 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU NEED AN ASSISTANT FOR $70,000. WE USED TO HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY HERE.

I KNOW SHE DIDN'T HANDLE EVERYTHING, BUT SHE DIDN'T HAVE AN ASSISTANT.

JUST SAYING THE ASSISTANT.

THE 70,000 HAD TO DO WITH MRS BENEFITS AND FICA AS WELL.

BECAUSE IF YOU HIRE LIKE A CLERICAL PERSON, YOU CAN'T JUST HIRE A REGULAR CLERICAL PERSON.

YOU REALLY NEED TO HIRE SOMEONE WHO HAS SOME SOME LEGAL KNOWLEDGE.

OF COURSE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IF I WERE TO JUST HIRE SOMEONE TO BE LIKE MY CLERICAL PERSON IN H.R..

BUT YOUR COMMENT SAID THE THOSE WHO HIRE ATTORNEYS IN-HOUSE ALSO EMPLOY LEGAL ASSISTANTS.

WELL, I MEANT A CLERICAL PERSON, NOT A LEGAL.

I'M SAYING YOU DON'T NEED THAT.

YEAH. NOT A PARALEGAL.

RIGHT. I'M SAYING YOU HIRE SOMEBODY THERE.

HERE. THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT.

BUT, I MEAN, THERE'S NO ACTION AT THIS POINT.

BUT, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AS A COUNCIL AND TAKE ACTION.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE, FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

BUT, GRADY, I'M GLAD YOU WERE HERE.

THANK YOU. IT SHOULDN'T TAKE YOU HEARING SOMETHING AT 11:00 AT NIGHT TO GET YOU TO COME DOWN HERE AND SEE US.

YOU HAVE SAID THAT TO ME TWICE.

I HAVE, AND I WAS DEAF.

THAT'S MY FAULT.

I SHOULD HAVE CUED IN.

IT'S NOT LIKE I BURN UP YOUR ASPHALT.

ANYWAY, DRIVING TO THE OTHER ENTITIES WE REPRESENT.

SO I WON'T BE A STRANGER.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.

HI, JOHN. HEY, JOHN.

FIRST, SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR MOM.

[02:50:01]

ALL RIGHT. I DID NOT GET OR RECEIVE THE INFORMATION THAT GRADY HAD FOR THE ENGINEERING OR HOW MUCH IT WAS, BUT I DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IN-HOUSE VERSUS CONSULTANTS.

WHEN YOU HIRE AN IN-HOUSE.

AND I WAS TALKING TO TIM BELL, WHO IS THE HEAD OF OUR WATER DEPARTMENT, AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT COSTS THAT THEY TYPICALLY SEE WHEN HE WAS AT THE CORE AND HIRING PEOPLE.

AND AGAIN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS GIVEN.

BUT HE WOULD TYPICALLY BUDGET, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE IT'S NOW YOUR IT'S COMING OUT OF COLLEGE JUST STRAIGHT OUT OF IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT BETWEEN 70 TO $80,000 A YEAR.

IS THIS. THE BATHROOM.

OKAY. SO BY THE TIME YOU START TAKING ALL THE COSTS AND STUFF, AS YOU GET OLDER AND OLDER AND YOU GET A P, A LICENSE P THAT DOES ALL THE TRAINING, HAS EVERYTHING.

TIM WAS SAYING, BY THE TIME YOU DO THAT AND TAKE ALL THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THE TRAINING EVERYTHING WITH VACATION, FICA, ALL THAT STUFF.

HE SAID HE WOULD BUDGET FOR A LOW LEVEL PERSON AROUND 250,000.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS GIVEN WITH OUR FEES.

PLEASE REMEMBER, THOUGH, IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON.

WE'RE PROVIDING AN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

YOU'RE GETTING A GIS DEPARTMENT.

YOU'RE GETTING A CAD DEPARTMENT.

YOU'RE GETTING TWO LICENSED OPERATORS THAT COME DOWN AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE.

YOU'RE GETTING SIX PES THAT ARE WORKING CONSISTENTLY IN THE CITY ON PROJECTS THROUGHOUT.

YOU GOT FIVE ITES.

SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON.

THAT'S THAT'S ALSO THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THAT'S ALL THE TRAINING THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THAT'S THE WHOLE RIGMAROLE THAT THE THE ONE THING I WILL SAY, JOHN, IS I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEGAL AND ENGINEERING HERE BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO HIRE YOU EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEETING, IT SEEMS, FOR A DIFFERENT JOB.

YES. WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY WITH YOU.

NO, WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT EACH EACH TIME WE TAKE ACTION.

THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IN HERE, PHIL, IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT BE NICE TO KNOW IS WHAT IS PROJECT RELATED AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY ENGINEERING SERVICES THAT WE GET BILLED FOR MONTHLY.

JUST HAVING JOHN, THAT'S THE PART THAT I THINK IS KIND OF MUDDIED IN HERE BECAUSE WE COULD SAY, JOHN, WE DON'T NEED HDR SERVICE ON THIS PROJECT. WE DON'T NEED THIS, WE DON'T NEED THIS JUST NOT FOR YOU AT HDR.

BUT, I MEAN, WE'VE HIRED WHAT FREESE AND NICHOLS ON SOME PROJECTS AND SOME OTHER ENGINEERING FIRMS ON OTHERS.

SO IT'S KIND OF A MISNOMER.

WE TAKE ACTION ON EACH ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS INDIVIDUALLY.

I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

AND WE DO BREAK DOWN OUR OUR COSTS WITH DEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT COST IS VERSUS WHICH I'LL CALL AND ASK US TO DO, VERSUS WE HAVE INDEPENDENT PROJECTS.

SO THAT NUMBER WOULD BE RELATIVELY EASY TO COME UP WITH.

AND I WILL SAY THAT I WAS ON COUNCIL THE YEAR THEY DECIDED TO HIRE AN ENGINEERING PERSON IN HOUSE, AND THE GENTLEMAN I DON'T THINK MADE IT A YEAR.

HE DIDN'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.

HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

AND ALL THE PROJECTS SAT.

I JUST REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE, I MEAN, WITH HDR, YOU'RE GETTING ALL THE SERVICES ALONG WITH IT AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR THAT PER PROJECT, WHICH I THINK IS BENEFICIAL.

WHEN YOU'RE IN A BUDGET CRUNCH, YOU CAN CUT THE PROJECTS, WHICH CUTS THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

YES, SIR. WE ONLY ANSWERED THE PHONE CALL.

WE'LL COME HELP ANY WAY WE CAN.

BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THAT BROKEN OUT JUST TO UNDERSTAND IT.

YOU HAVE TO GO YEAH, WE CAN GET IT.

IT'S JUST ONE FOR THE BOOKS.

DID YOU CHECK YOUR BILLS? HEY, JOHN. TALKING TO MIKE, PLEASE, Y'ALL.

I'VE GOT STAFF WORKING ON THAT ANYWAY.

OKAY. I JUST.

THEY COULDN'T GET EVERYTHING DONE.

JOHN, DO YOU PAY? DO WE PAY FOR GIS? EVERY. IS THERE AN ANNUAL FEE FOR THAT OR DO WE PAY A MONTHLY FEE TO YOU? WHAT? YOU OWN THE GIS OR DO WE OWN IT? YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SITE, RIGHT? WE DON'T HOST YOU ANYMORE LIKE WE USED TO, RIGHT? SO THE GIS THAT YOU PAY FOR IS JUST WHENEVER YOU NEED ASSISTANCE ON SOMETHING, OR KNOWLEDGE OR A MAP MADE OR WHATEVER YOU ASK US

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ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO? WE COULDN'T UPDATE OUR OWN GIS.

DO WE NOT HAVE THE PEOPLE TO DO THAT? OTIS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE THE ENGINEERING BACKGROUND TO DO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO, BUT WE HAVE THE BASIC UTILIZING CAPABILITIES.

SO WE HAVE USERS, WE HAVE POWER USERS, BUT WE DON'T DO A LOT OF THE EDITING.

AND THAT'S WHAT HDR DOES.

AND WE WE'RE ONE OF WE'RE THE ONLY ENGINEERING.

WE'RE ONE OF I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY ENGINEERING FIRM IN THE UNITED STATES THAT'S A PLATINUM MEMBER IN GIS WITH ESRI.

SO WE GET DIRECT CONTACT WITH ESRI AND WE GET THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T THAT WE CAN UTILIZE FOR OUR CLIENTS.

SO YOU'RE GETTING THAT THAT PORTION THAT YOU WOULDN'T GET FROM, FROM A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHN MR. COMMENTS? YES, SIR.

I'VE SPENT THE LAST 50 YEARS IN THE SAME FIELD, BUT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BRING AN IN-HOUSE ENGINEER INTO THE CITY AND GET YOUR PROJECTS DONE.

THAT HDR, FREESE AND NICHOLS.

NAME THESE OTHER FIRMS THAT DO THEY HAVE? THEY HAVE DRAFTING CAPABILITIES THAT THE CITY OF ANGLETON DOES NOT HAVE.

RIGHT. THEY HAVE GOT SPECIALISTS IN THE VARIOUS FIELDS OF ENGINEERING THAT THAT ARE BECOME ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.

WATER TOWER PROJECT.

THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS THAT HAVE TO BE EMPLOYED.

ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS THAT HAVE TO BE EMPLOYED.

MECHANICAL ENGINEERS THAT HAVE TO BE EMPLOYED.

AND ALL THAT. IF YOU HIRE A CIVIL ENGINEER TO COME IN HERE AND BE THE THE CITY ENGINEER, THAT CIVIL ENGINEER IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUTSOURCE TO OTHER SPECIFICS TO TO GET THOSE PARTS DONE.

WE HOPE THAT THE PERSON THAT YOU BRING IN HERE IS, IS IS VERSED IN HYDRAULICS, HYDROLOGY WATER RESOURCES, ALL THE ASPECTS THAT THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT FIRMS HAVE DIFFERENT RESOURCES IN-HOUSE TO DO SO.

IT'S THEY HAVE TO DRAW ON A LOT OF BACKGROUND THAT THAT WAS WHAT THIS FELLA I MET, THIS GUY THAT CAME CAME TO WORK HERE, AND HE WAS HE WAS OUT OF HIS LEAGUE TODAY.

HE WALKED IN THE DOOR.

AND SO THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T HE DIDN'T STAY VERY LONG.

SO JUST JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRAS THAT THE PEOPLE LIKE HDR BRING TO THE TABLE WHEN THEY WHEN THEY GET WHEN THEY GET HIRED.

BILL, CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, PLEASE? JUST A TOTAL. IT'S NEVER A GOOD SIGN.

YEAH. FOR EIGHT MONTHS.

YEP. A LOT OF PROJECTS.

YEAH. OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN.

COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT JOHN THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I SEE THERE'S ANOTHER TAB OVER THERE FOR GUNDA.

OTIS. SO THE GUNDA ENFORCES, I THINK YOU SEE HERE WOULD BE MAJORITY THE USER FEE STUDY THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING THAT WILL BE ENDING WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

WE'LL GO INTO WORK SESSIONS.

THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FEE SCHEDULE.

SO A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT ON HOW WE BUILD DEVELOPERS, YOU'LL GET TO SEE OUR APPROACH TO THAT MOVING FORWARD.

IS THAT A CONSISTENT ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HIRE THEM FOR I MEAN, KEEP THEM ON STAFF GOING FORWARD OR THEY THEY WERE HIRED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT TASK, AND THERE WERE OTHER TASKS THAT THEY WERE HIRED FOR.

MORE SPECIFICALLY ON THE PLANNING SIDE, PRIOR TO MY GETTING HERE.

RIGHT? SO THERE ARE, I THINK, TWO OTHER OUTSTANDING CONTRACTS THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE CITY ON PLANNING SERVICES.

AS YOU KNOW, THEY WERE LOOKING AT THAT SUGAR LAND ISSUE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

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BOTH ARE AMOUNT THAT WE APPROVED FOR THEM.

FOR THE USER FEE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT AMOUNT.

WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERED WITHIN A YEAR? IT WAS THERE WAS SOME DELAY.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DELAY.

YES. BUT AS I STATED, WE WERE HOPING TO GET IT BY FISCAL YEAR END.

THE WORK SESSIONS. I THINK WE DELAYED A LITTLE BECAUSE OF BUDGETING.

BUT YOU'RE DUE TO SEE IT NEXT MONTH, I THINK, IN YOUR FIRST WORK SESSION.

IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAGE RIGHT NOW? THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE FINISHED THE MODEL.

THE FEE LIST. FEE SCHEDULE.

WE'RE WORKING ON SOME LAST MINUTE PART COORDINATION OF THEIR FEES, BUT THEY'RE HOLISTICALLY LOOKING AT ALL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE FEES ON ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY CHARGE AND DOES BUSINESS.

FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT.

SO. OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT THOSE ARE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OTIS.

ALL RIGHT. FINALLY.

I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER SIX. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240910006 TO ADOPT THE FISCAL YEAR 2024

[6. Conduct a Public Hearing, discussion and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20240910-006 to adopt the Fiscal Year 2024-2025 Annual Budget for the City of Angleton, Texas for the Fiscal Year beginning on October 1, 2024, and ending on September 30, 2025; and declaring an effective date. THIS BUDGET WILL RAISE MORE TOTAL PROPERTY TAXES THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BY $204,846 OR 2.25%, AND OF THAT AMOUNT, $204,850 IS TAX REVENUE TO BE RAISED FROM NEW PROPERTY ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL THIS YEAR.]

THIS BUDGET WILL RAISE MORE THAN TOTAL PROPERTY TAXES THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BY $204,846, OR 2.25%. AND OF THAT AMOUNT, 204,850 IS TAX REVENUE TO BE RAISED FROM NEW PROPERTY ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL THIS YEAR? ALL RIGHT.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS.

JUDITH, IN THIS CASE, IF WE ADOPT THIS AT THE MOMENT, IS THERE STILL A CHANCE FOR US TO REVIEW THE BUDGET AND TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE BUDGET? NO. SO STATUTORILY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OPEN YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

STATUTORILY, YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS.

YOUR ACTION CAN BE THAT YOU EITHER TAKE YOUR VOTE ON ADOPTING OR YOU CAN POSTPONE YOUR VOTE TO YOUR NEXT MEETING, BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.

SO WHAT DISTINGUISHES THAT IS YOU KNOW HOW SOMETIMES YOU JUST KEEP SOMETHING OPEN.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH THIS ONE.

OKAY. WHAT I'M ASKING THOUGH IS, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

WE COULDN'T TAKE ACTION ON THE PREVIOUS LINE ITEM.

WE I MEAN, WE COULD TAKE ACTION HERE, RIGHT? CORRECT. BUT IF WE WANT TO GO BACK AND MAKE CHANGES TO THIS BUDGET THAT CUTS MONEY.

WE CAN'T INCREASE.

BUT WE CAN CUT.

YES, BUT BUT THE BUT THE ACTION IS TO ADOPT.

CORRECT. IF YOU'RE NOT READY TO ADOPT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THE ACTION AT THE END OF THE HEARING, SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO POSTPONE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT WHAT IF WE WANTED TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT? CAN WE DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT? WELL, YOU CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO REVISE THE BUDGET AND BRING IT BACK NEXT TIME.

YES. OKAY.

SORRY, I WASN'T ANSWERING YOU DIRECTLY.

ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS A WHILE AGO.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THINGS TO THE BUDGET.

AND HERE WE ARE, SEPTEMBER 10TH.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL, WE GET THE ACTIONS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IN HERE.

SO AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE BYPRODUCT OF THAT IS THAT WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX ADOPTION RATE, THAT HEARING? YOU'RE AT THE END OF THE HEARING.

YOU CAN EITHER KEEP IT OPEN UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

THE TAX RATE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT YOU CAN'T ADOPT YOUR TAX RATE UNTIL YOU ADOPT YOUR BUDGET.

SO EVERYTHING BASICALLY WOULD BE POSTPONED TO THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR HEARING BECAUSE YOU NOTICED YOUR HEARING ON BOTH.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S COUNCIL LET'S FIRST OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND TELL US WHERE HOW YOU STAND.

OKAY, ONCE MORE, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTAIN.

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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE MAKE AN ADOPTION OF THIS BUDGET, YOU HAD A COUPLE ITEMS. I THINK SOME THERE WERE SOME ITEMS. I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THEM ADDRESSED.

BUT SPECIFICALLY, PHIL, I NEED YOU TO TELL US EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE HAVE AVAILABLE, BECAUSE THE GOAL WAS TO CUT 881,000. YOU CUT OVER A MILLION, SO YOU HAVE 155,000.

ARE YOU SENDING THAT TO FUND BALANCE? IF YOU DON'T SPEND IT FOR ANYTHING, IT'LL GO TO FUND BALANCE.

CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU HAVE 150 WHATEVER THOUSAND AVAILABLE TONIGHT TO TELL US TO CHANGE OR COME BACK AND CUT IT SOME MORE, YOU KNOW.

BUT IF YOU'D LIKE, CHRIS SAID, IF YOU DON'T SPEND IT, IT WILL GO TO FUND BALANCE.

CORRECT? WELL, I FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO SEE WE FULLY FUND THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION DINNER.

YEAH I AGREE.

YES. AND WE CAN SHIFT SOME OF THAT MONEY FROM THE MAYOR APPRECIATION DINNER TO THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION DINNER.

AND ANY BALANCE.

OUTSTANDING. TAKE FROM THAT GENERAL FUND BALANCE THAT'S REMAINING RIGHT NOW.

WAS THERE A WASN'T THERE AN ITEM WITH A BUDGET THAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS? YEP. I HAVE THAT NOTED AS WELL.

THE TRUCK APPARATUS OR THE MAINTENANCE ON THE ON THE LADDER TRUCK, WHICH WAS ONLY, I THINK 15,000.

AND. YEAH.

I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED BACK IN.

WE DON'T HAVE WE DIDN'T FUND OTIS'S POSITION IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, SO IT'S A DECISION PACKAGE.

SO IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTION IN THAT, HEADCOUNT DOESN'T GET ADDED.

THAT'S FOR PART TIME. YES, THAT WAS A PART TIME.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US EXPLORE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO ADJUST THE BUDGET, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE US PERHAPS LEAVE SOME MONEY FOR THE FUND BALANCE.

AND THAT AFFECTS OUR SO MANY THINGS, INCLUDING BOND RATES.

AND SO.

WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BUILD THAT FUND BALANCE UP.

WE'RE YES, WE'RE ALMOST ON LIFE SUPPORT RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT. BILL, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.

THE NEW REVENUE, WHAT I JUST READ WAS $204,846.

THAT'S JUST THE PROPERTY TAX.

YES, SIR. WE'VE INCREASED THE SALES TAX AS WELL.

RIGHT. HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL REVENUE ARE WE GETTING OFF THE SALES TAX AGAINST THE GENERAL FUND? I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

HANG ON. I'M TRYING TO RECONCILE THESE NUMBERS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE.

THE 200,000 IN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IS GOING TO DEBT SERVICE.

FOR WHAT? A NEW DEBT THAT YOU PLANNED ON ISSUING.

BUT YOU ADJUSTED THE INS RATE, CORRECT? YES. WITH IT IN IT IS IN THAT INS RATE.

THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS CALCULATED BASED ON TOTAL.

CORRECT. WE THEN WE TAKE BACK OUT THE INS RATE TO GET THE RATE AVAILABLE FOR A GENERAL FUND.

BUT I THOUGHT THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT, WE WERE NOT GOING TO IT WAS ALREADY TOO LATE TO TAKE OUT THE DEBT SERVICE.

AND THEN WE SAID, NO, WE'RE TAKING IT OUT, AND NOW WE'RE NOT TAKING IT OUT.

SO THE NEW DEBT, THE 11 MILLION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS INCLUDED IN THE ZINS RATE OF THE $0.08.

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THERE WILL STILL BE TIME, OR COULD BE TIME TO ISSUE THAT DEBT AND HAVE TO MAKE A PAYMENT NEXT YEAR.

RIGHT. BUT THEN JOE TALKED TO US ABOUT MAYBE PUSHING IT TO THE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR AND NOT MAKING THAT FIRST PAYMENT TO THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

CORRECT. WELL, THAT WAS A SUGGESTION.

RIGHT. BUT WE.

SO WE HAVE WE HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM.

HERE IS WHAT I'M HEARING.

OKAY. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE SALES TAX AMOUNT? I'M STILL LOOKING.

HANG ON.

RIGHT NOW I SHOW 129,000 SITTING THERE.

ADDITIONAL EXPENSES OFF OF THE BUDGET ORIGINALLY OR WITH THE MILLION TAKEN OUT.

SO.

SALES TAX? LOOKS LIKE IT'S $344,000.

INCREASE 340 4K.

SO WE'RE TALKING TOTAL NEW REVENUE NEXT YEAR OF 548,000 ADDITIONAL.

OKAY. HOW MUCH ARE YOU PUTTING TOWARDS THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS APPROXIMATELY 200,000.

THAT GIVES YOU 348,000 ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

OKAY. OTIS, HOW MUCH WAS YOUR HEAD COUNT AGAIN? WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN? SIX. CURRENTLY, YOU MEAN.

NO. HOW MUCH WAS THE ONE HEAD? THE PART TIME? OH, THE ONE PERSON.

YES. THAT WE WERE TRYING TO HIRE JUST ONE PERSON.

YES, BUT HOW MUCH WAS THAT FOR THAT POSITION? I THINK WHAT HE'S ASKING.

YES, YES.

I THINK IT WAS RIGHT AT 19,000.

IF IT WERE ROUNDED TO 20.

DOES THAT INCLUDE TERMS AND ALL THAT? DID THEY GET IT AT THE TIME? THAT WAS GOING TO BE AN UNDER 20 AN HOUR A WEEK EMPLOYEE.

SO T MRS AND BENEFITS WOULD COME INTO PLAY.

OKAY. 20 K, 15 K FOR FIRE.

HOW MUCH WERE YOU ALL SAYING FOR THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION? WE'RE MOVING THE SIX K FROM THE MAYORS TO THE OTHER.

BUT DID YOU ADD ADDITIONAL.

WHAT'S THE NORMAL AMOUNT? MICHELLE, DO YOU HAVE ANY MARTHA.

SO WE TYPICALLY HAVE BUDGETED 25,000.

THAT USUALLY COVERS ONE LARGE EVENT.

AND THEN WE'VE HAD THINGS LIKE AN ICE CREAM TRUCK OR SOMETHING SMALL LIKE THAT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS I WOULD SUGGEST SIX PLUS PLUS 14 COMING OUT OF OR LET'S SAY 20,000.

JUST GOING TO SAY 20.

OKAY. IT'S ABOUT SO 16 COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

CORRECT. 7 TO 14.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE AT 49.

49 OFF THE 129 I'M WORKING OFF THAT NUMBER.

STILL PUTS ALMOST 85 90,000 BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE.

CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? SURE. I MEAN, PAST THE PAST THE BUDGET, PAST THE TAX RATE.

AND THEN WE CAN AGAIN WORKSHOP THAT 150,000 AND COME BACK AND SAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO PUT IN FUND BALANCE? WHAT WHAT EMPLOYEES? WHAT OTHER FUNDING? WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT TONIGHT.

SURE. I JUST SAID YES.

THAT'S ALL. OKAY.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT 150 TO WORK WITH THE PLAYGROUND.

WELL, WE HAVE 548 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE, -200,000 DEBT SERVICE.

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MAYOR, MAY I ASK YOU BRING UP ANOTHER SUBJECT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET? YES. RAISES FOR NEXT YEAR.

I KNOW I WAS GOING TO GET THERE, TOO.

OKAY. I JUST BRINGING IT UP SO WE DON'T FORGET IT.

NO, I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT EITHER.

BUT WE NEED NUMBERS, SO.

I MEAN, I CAN GIVE YOU NUMBERS.

JUST A SECOND. OKAY.

MAYOR. ALSO THE WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE BUDGET.

WELL, WE'VE SPECIFICALLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND.

WE ALSO WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE FOUR DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE HIGH PRIORITY FOR AAC.

WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THOSE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DISCUSSED AS WELL.

OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

AFTER WE TAKE ACTION.

I MEAN, THESE THESE THREE ARE PRETTY EASY TO PUT INTO MOTION AND THEN FIGURE OUT THE REST OF IT.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT, CHRIS? JUDITH. YEAH.

OKAY. SO, COUNCIL, I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S 49,000 ROUGH NUMBERS HERE.

20,000 FOR THE HEAD.

COUNT FOR OTIS.

15,000 FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND 14 K FOR THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION BEING ADDED BACK IN, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE, WITH THE REMAINDER GOING INTO FUND BALANCE.

THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION I WOULD SUGGEST.

OR YOU CAN DO TAKE ACTION ANY WAY YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME AND REVIEW THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? OR I WOULD LOOK AT DECISION PACKAGES OR WHATEVER ELSE WE WANT TO DO.

RIGHT. OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE AT 850 AT NIGHT.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS, BUT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THEN THE TAX RATE AND THEN ANYTHING YOU'LL DO LATER ON IN THE AMENDMENT.

YEP. SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN.

COUNCIL. AND THIS WILL BE A ROLL CALL VOTE.

AND IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ACTION, YOU'LL NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY ON ON THOSE THREE IF YOU WANT TO, BUT ALSO READ THE HEADER THAT'S IN BOLD ON THE AGENDA SUMMARY. I WANT TO MAKE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO BRING LEGAL COUNSEL IN HOUSE.

I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY, I'LL SECOND IT.

ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A MOTION ON A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO BRING LEGAL HELP LEGAL COUNSEL IN-HOUSE.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTEN.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? IS THAT MEANING THAT WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT THAT OR ARE WE? WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE OF THE MOTION.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULDN'T BE A ROLL CALL.

CORRECT? NO, NO, THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THIS.

SO SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THE RESERVATION.

SO WE WERE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE VOTING ON THE BUDGET.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON A BUDGET AMENDMENT LATER ON, BECAUSE YOU JUST TOLD ME YOU'RE GOING TO ADOPT THE BUDGET IN ORDER TO GO IN-HOUSE. SO THAT'S A BI FOLD QUESTION ABOUT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A VOTE ON IN HOUSE? AND IF YOU DO, THAT'S NOT ON YOUR AGENDA.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT UNDER THE GOVERNMENT CODE AND AN EMPLOYMENT MATTER ON YOUR AGENDA.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ARE VOTING ON.

SURE. I MEAN, ALL LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES, INCLUDING THE PROSECUTORIAL RESPONSIBILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN AND THE TWO OTHERS HANDLED OUT, I BELIEVE IT'S

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PROSECUTOR. AND PURDUE.

BRANDON. YES. THAT'S TRUE, THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH. OKAY.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST A SALARY RANGE BETWEEN 140,100 AND $150,000 PLUS BENEFITS.

WELL. SO WE'RE STILL MIXING ISSUES.

THIS IS AN ITEM ON THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION OF YOUR BUDGET.

AND YOU JUST SAID YOU'RE GOING TO ADOPT THE BUDGET.

SO I WOULD SAY PROCEED IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE FACT YOU'VE HAD YOUR PUBLIC HEARING AND EVERYTHING.

IF COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME ITEM ON THE AGENDA REGARDING A DISCUSSION OF THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, THEN THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT TIME.

IF I IF THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS HAPPENING, I'M NOT REALLY SURE.

I STILL DO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING.

OKAY. WORKS FOR ME.

ALL RIGHT. SO DO YOU WANT TO REMOVE YOUR MOTION FOR THIS? I WANT A HEARING.

ON. I'M GETTING THERE.

I WANT A HEARING ON THE STATUS OF THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON TO BRING THAT CITY ATTORNEY IN-HOUSE, AND IT CAN BE DONE ON THE NEXT MOTION IN THE NEXT MEETING.

MR. SECOND. GOT TO SAY SOMETHING.

YES. OKAY, HERE'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

I WANT TO MAKE MY OBJECTION CLEAR TO THIS BUDGET.

THAT'S GOING TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS IT STANDS, WHICH WHEN WE LOOK AT.

THE DOCUMENT THAT PHIL PRESENTED TO US EARLIER LEAVES A LINE ITEM FOR ATTORNEY BLANK.

CAN WE DO THAT? AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF MY OBJECTION IS TO THIS BUDGET.

OKAY. IT IS NOTED THAT IF WE LEAVE IT BLANK SO WE CAN'T APPROVE THE BUDGET.

I'M JUST SAYING, YOU LOOK, WE CAN.

WELL, RIGHT HERE FIRST BLANK.

WHICH ONE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? ONE THAT WE'RE HANDING OUT TONIGHT.

OH, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE FEES? YEAH. RIGHT HERE.

THERE'S NOTHING ON IT. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY? OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S IT'S EMBEDDED IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. IT SHOULD BE IN THAT LINE ITEM.

IT SHOULD BE ON THAT ACCOUNT.

I AGREE.

SO I CAN NOTE YOUR OBJECTION TO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO HAVE THIS ITEM BROUGHT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THAT ONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? I. ALL RIGHT.

SO IT'S FOUR TWO VOTE.

IT WILL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. BEFORE US STILL IS THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.

I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT THIS BUDGET OR TO NOT ADOPT THE BUDGET.

PLEASE TAKE ACTION.

CAN I SAY I ADOPT? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE BUDGET WITH THE DETAILS THAT YOU STATED, AND THEN READ THE THING.

OR DO YOU WANT ME TO READ OFF? NO, NO.

THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE BUDGET WITH DETAILS STATED BY THE MAYOR.

SO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 40910-006 TO ADOPT THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF A MOTION.

OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIELS.

A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN TO ADOPT THE BUDGET.

WITH THE CHANGES SUGGESTED FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION DINNER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YOU NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE. YEP.

THIS IS A ROLL CALL, SO I WILL GO DOWN THE LIST WHEN I GET THERE.

ALL RIGHT. FIRST OFF, MAYOR FOR MAYOR PRO TEM AGAINST COUNCILMAN BOOTH, FOR COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL, FOR COUNCILMAN STANTON, FOR COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR MOTION PASSES, FIVE ONE.

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I'VE NUMBER SEVEN.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240910007.

[7. Conduct a Public Hearing, discussion and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20240910-007 levying the Ad Valorem Property Tax of the City of Angleton, Texas for the year of 2024 on all taxable property within the corporate limits of the city on January 1, 2024, and adopting a tax rate for 2024; providing revenues for payment of current municipal maintenance and operating expenses and for payment of interest and principal on outstanding city of Angleton debt; providing for limited exemptions of certain homesteads; providing for enforcement of collections; providing for a severability clause; and providing an effective date]

PROVIDING FOR LIMITED EXEMPTIONS OF CERTAIN HOMESTEADS, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT OF COLLECTIONS.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS TAX ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. WE ARE NOW AT A PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL WILL HAVE ACTION ON THIS ITEM.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.

LEVYING THE TAX RATE THAT CORRESPONDS WITH THE BUDGET ORDINANCE.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN.

SECOND, BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

FOR APPROVAL.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A ROLL CALL VOTE.

MAYOR FOR MAYOR.

PRO TEM TOWNSEND FOR COUNCIL MEMBER.

BOOTH AGAINST COUNCIL MEMBER.

DANIEL FOR COUNCIL MEMBER.

SARTIN FOR COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR MOTION PASSES FIVE ONE.

ALL RIGHT. NOW WE ARE MOVING TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20240910008, EXPRESSING INTENT TO FINANCE EXPENDITURES AND ADDITIONAL ACTIONS IN PREPARATION FOR THE

[8. Discussion and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20240910-008 expressing intent to finance expenditures and additional actions in preparation for the issuance of emergency notes.]

THREE HOURS. I KNOW THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU IS THE FIRST STEP IN ISSUING THE EMERGENCY NOTES.

WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO PASS THE REIMBURSING RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO GO BACK AND PAY OURSELVES BACK FOR MONIES.

WE'VE SPENT THE 4.2 MILLION, $220,000 IS A MAXIMUM NUMBER.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BORROW THAT MUCH, BECAUSE THAT NUMBER INCLUDES THE COST OF US DOING ALL OF THE REPAIRS FOR THAT, THE THAT WE'LL GET SOME INSURANCE MONEY BACK.

IT ALSO INCLUDES THE ALL OF THE COST OF DEBRIS AND THAT TYPE OF THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND PAY, BUT WE'LL GET WE SHOULD GET 75% OF THAT BACK AT SOME POINT.

SO I PURPOSELY PUT THE NUMBER HIGH SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME ROOM TO STEP BACKWARDS BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME WE BORROW THE MONEY.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL THE FLEXIBILITY, AND LIKE I SAID, THAT IS A MAXIMUM NUMBER.

YOU CAN TELL ME WE'RE GOING TO DO 3 MILLION.

I'M. I'M HAPPY WITH THAT.

BUT WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING TO TO PRESERVE OUR FUND BALANCE GOING FORWARD.

AND JOE BURROW IS HERE TO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THE EMERGENCY NOTE.

OKAY. DO WE EXPECT TO MEET THE 60 DAY REQUIREMENT? YES, SIR.

BECAUSE THE CODE THAT OFFSET THE THE WORDING IS THAT WE HAVE TO.

IT IS WHEN WE PAY THE THE MONEY ACTUALLY GOES OUT, NOT WHEN WE INCUR THE EXPENSE.

RIGHT. SO WE WILL MEET THE 60 DAY REQUIREMENT, BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE.

YES. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.

OKAY. AND WHERE DO I SEE THE AMOUNT LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION.

IT'S ON THE EXHIBIT A YES.

EXHIBIT A OKAY.

YEP. GOT IT.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

I KNOW WE DISCUSSED 2 MILLION, BUT THAT'S JUST THE MAX THAT WE CAN PAY BACK.

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HI, JOE. YOU WANT TO COME TO THE PODIUM? YOU'RE AWFULLY SPRY FOR 9:00.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? YES. THE FORMER 4,220,000 IS JUST PRESERVING THE RIGHT TO ADD THAT UP TO THAT AMOUNT IN A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.

SO THAT GIVES US THE RIGHT TO CLAW BACK 60 DAYS FROM TODAY AND CAPTURE ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE SPENT.

WHEN WE SIZE THE NOTES, THE EMERGENCY NOTES, WE DO NOT HAVE TO INCLUDE ALL OF THAT.

AND MY EXPECTATION FROM THAT IS THAT THE CITY WILL BE FORWARDING A LIST OF SPECIFIC PROJECTS TO BOND COUNCIL, AND TAX COUNCIL WILL REVIEW THOSE.

WE WILL ALSO DIVIDE THAT OUT BETWEEN WHAT MIGHT BE AN ELIGIBLE FUND FOR FEMA IN WHAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO ROLL INTO A DEBT OBLIGATION.

RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE FUTURE AD VALOREM TAXES.

SO THAT'S THE NEXT SIZING STEP.

THIS JUST PRESERVES OUR RIGHT TO GET EVERYTHING THAT WE THINK YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ROLL IN AT THIS TIME.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANT THING TO ME ON THAT IS TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND WHAT WE THE MAXIMUM WE MIGHT EXPECT FROM FEMA.

YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE YOU QUALIFY FOR THE 75% DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT.

THEY'VE RUN OUT OF MONEY.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THERE'S A FUNDING RESOLUTION BEFORE THEM.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, FUTURE OR FUTURE FEMA MONEY REIMBURSEMENT IS IN THAT.

PROBABLY SOME OF IT IS, BUT YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THIS STEP ONLY PRESERVES OUR RIGHT TO MAXIMIZE UP TO $4,220,000 IN REIMBURSEMENTS.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

DO I HAVE ACTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 409 TEN.

DASH 008.

OKAY. FOR THE AMOUNTS SPECIFIED FOR THE AMOUNT SPECIFIED, FOUR POINT.

WHAT WAS IT, 2 MILLION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JOE. I BELIEVE THE NEXT.

OKAY. LOOKS LIKE NUMBER NINE.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ENGAGEMENT OF A PLACEMENT AGENT IN CONNECTION WITH THE ISSUANCE OF EMERGENCY NOTES.

[9. Discussion and possible action on the engagement of a placement agent in connection with the issuance of emergency notes.]

MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL JOE BURROW, HILLTOP SECURITIES.

WHAT THIS ENTAILS IS GETTING SOMEONE THAT WILL FIND OUR PURCHASER.

I AM UNABLE TO DO THAT FUNCTION BECAUSE IN A SENSE, IT WOULD BE ME TELLING CHRIS, I'LL BUY YOUR CAR FROM YOU.

IT'S THE BEST PRICE I CAN GIVE YOU, AND TURNING IT AROUND AND SELLING IT TO MISS DANIEL AT A HIGHER PRICE, AND TELLING HER YOU JUST GOT THE DEAL OF YOUR LIFE.

WELL, I CAN'T BE IN THAT SITUATION, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A PLACEMENT AGENT.

I WILL WORK WITH THEM TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE ON MARKET.

WE'VE GOT TRADERS THAT ARE COMMITTING OUR CAPITAL IN THE MARKET EVERY DAY.

SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT WHAT IS A FAIR PRICE WHEN WHENEVER THEY COME BACK WITH A PURCHASER THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED, THEY EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY DO NOT NEED ANY KIND OF FORMAL ENGAGEMENT.

SO IF YOU JUST CRUZ AND ASSOCIATES IS WHO I HAVE LINED UP TO ACT AS PLACEMENT AGENT THE INDIVIDUAL PHILIP MARTIN WAS WITH OUR FIRM SOME 20 YEARS AGO, THEN WENT TO FROST AND DID PRIVATE PLACEMENTS, AMONG OTHER THINGS.

NOW HE'S WITH CRUZ AND ASSOCIATES, SO HE KNOWS AND UNDERSTANDS HOW TO GET A PRIVATE PLACEMENT DONE, WHICH AGAIN, WE VISITED BRIEFLY ABOUT. IT'S TO INSTITUTIONS, BANKS, SOPHISTICATED INVESTORS THAT ARE GOING TO BRING THAT THAT OBLIGATION IN AND HOLD

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WE DON'T HAVE TO GET A RATING.

IT'S A PRIVATE TRANSACTION.

SO THAT WILL BE THEIR FUNCTION.

AND WE'D LIKE TO GET A LIST OF ANY BANKS IN THE CITY THAT YOU WANT TO BE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A LOOK AT.

SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT IN THE NEXT MOST IMPORTANT THING IS GOING TO BE THAT WE GET A SIZE AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, CHRIS, SIGN OFF ON THAT A COMMITTEE OR WAIT TILL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL TO SIGN OFF ON HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY DO BORROW.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

OKAY, SO THEN WE'LL WE WOULD HOPE THAT BY YOUR LAST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING LINED UP AND WITH YOUR BLESSING AT THAT POINT, WE WILL TURN THEM LOOSE TO TO GO GET YOU KNOW, THE BEST RATE THAT THEY CAN FIND FROM THE BANKS.

TYPICALLY IT'S SENT OUT TO A LIST AND WE GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, BECAUSE DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE BANK, THEY MAY EITHER BE ABLE TO SIT A CREDIT COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, WEEKLY OR BIWEEKLY.

IT ALL DEPENDS.

SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WALKING DOWN TO THE, YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT'S DESK.

BUT WE WANT SUFFICIENT TIME TO BE SURE THAT ENOUGH INSTITUTIONS HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT IT, THAT WE'RE CONFIDENT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST PRICING.

OKAY. SO I GUESS IF AT THIS POINT, IF YOU COULD JUST APPROVE US GOING FORWARD WITH CRUZ AND ASSOCIATES, THEY DON'T NEED ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.

NO WRITTEN AGREEMENT IS REQUIRED BY THEIR COMPLIANCE FOLKS.

COUNCIL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO IMPROVE THE ENGAGEMENT OF PLACEMENT IN CONNECTION WITH THE ISSUANCE OF EMERGENCY NOTES.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN.

SECOND, BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? YES, SIR. JUST A QUICK IF YOU COULD CLARIFY FOR ME AND US, THE THIS IS PAID FOR THROUGH THE MONEY. THE TAX EMERGENCY TAX NOTE.

RIGHT. THE SERVICE FOR CRUZ ASSOCIATES.

YES, YES.

THERE. YOU KNOW, ALL ISSUANCE COSTS WILL BE ROLLED INTO THE NOTE SIZE, INCLUDING THE FEE FOR THE LOAN.

USUALLY WE DON'T SEE AN ORIGINATION COST COMING FROM THE PURCHASER, THOUGH THEY MAY HAVE A SET ASIDE FOR LEGAL REVIEW BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WAS LIKE A $35,000 DISCUSSION OR THAT WAS I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT WHAT DO WE THINK THE COSTS OF ISSUANCE WILL BE? AND I SAID PROBABLY AROUND 35,000.

AFTER TALKING WITH JONATHAN, HE THINKS THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IS LEGAL FEE IS GOING TO BE.

I THINK TOTAL COSTS OF ISSUANCE ARE GOING TO PROBABLY WIND UP BEING 60 TO 65,000.

PLACEMENT AGENT BASICALLY IT'S GOING TO BE PLACEMENT AGENT LEGAL AND ME AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

GREAT. OKAY.

SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? WE WILL BE SURE TO REACH OUT TO OUR LOCAL LOCAL BANKS.

PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE DO BUSINESS WITH US.

WE DO BUSINESS WITH THEM.

OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOE.

ITEM NUMBER TEN. DISCUSSION ON SPEEDING IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE CITY.

[10. Discussion on speeding in neighborhoods within the city.]

AND WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE WHO HAS WAITED PATIENTLY FOR THREE HOURS, SO.

THANK YOU. YES.

HEIDI, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

I KNOW WE CAN HEAR THE SECOND TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, BECAUSE I WAS PART OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ANGLETON IN 2023, AND I WAS LISTENING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE. SO I'M SAD ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I REALLY LEARNED A LOT IN THAT PROGRAM.

I'M JUST A MOM.

I WORK IN THE HOUSE.

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I AM A MOM OF A SEVEN YEARS OLD AUTISTIC KID.

THAT IS WAITING FOR ME FOR.

OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD.

AND EVERY MORNING, I HAVE TO EXPLAIN HIM WHY THE CARS ARE GOING SO FAST ON A SCHOOL ZONE.

WHY CARS ARE DOING U-TURNS ON SCHOOL ZONE ON MAIN ROAD OF SMALL SUBDIVISIONS.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING ON THE 288.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO 35.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING IN THE MAIN ROAD THAT BARELY FITS TWO CARS DOING U-TURNS.

TODAY, ONE MOM TOLD ME THAT SHE WASN'T DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL.

SO I JUST REPLIED, YES YOU ARE.

SHE SAID, YOU CAN TELL ME IF A U-TURN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ANYWHERE IS LEGAL.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE KIDS IN THE AREA.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF KIDS, A LOT OF THEM WALKING AROUND.

I KNOW THAT THE THIS MUST BE NEW PEOPLE IN THE SCHOOL, NEW PARENTS IN THE SCHOOL.

BUT WE TRY SCIENCE CITY HAS PUT SIGNS LIKE STOP SIGNS.

SCHOOL ZONE SIGNS ALSO DO NOT PARK HERE.

SIGNS IS NOT WORKING.

WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS IN THE IN THE FACEBOOK PAGE OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND FOR 95%, WE WANT SOME.

STOP SPEEDING.

SPEEDING? WHAT'S THE NAME? I'M SORRY. WHERE WE MEET, ENGLISH IS NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE.

THEY ARE THE THE SPEEDING BUMPS.

YEAH SOME OF THEM DOESN'T WANT THEM.

SOME OF THEM WANT THEM.

BUT WE NEED SOMETHING TO STOP THE PEOPLE GOING LIKE CRAZY.

AND IT'S RACE MOSTLY IN SCHOOL HOURS.

SCHOOL TIME. KIDS IN BIKES.

SMALL KIDS THAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE.

I THINK THAT THAT'S THE ONLY SCHOOL IN ANGLETON THAT WE HAVE IS, LIKE INSIDE OF A COMMUNITY.

BUT I'M NOT LIKE A NATIVE ANGLETON FROM ANGLETON.

I LIVE HERE SINCE EIGHT YEARS AGO, SO I'VE SEEN ALL THIS.

I JUST SAY, OKAY, LET'S GO AND TALK AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE SITUATION AND THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE.

I KNOW THAT IT'S LATE.

MY NEIGHBORS ARE NOT GOING TO BE HERE.

BUT YES, IT'S BEEN A DISCUSSION FOR A FEW MONTHS, EVEN YEARS.

AS I TOLD YOU, I DID THE CAPSTONE PROJECT ON THIS MATTER ON 20, 23, TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THE SPEED ILLEGAL U-TURNS, PHONE USAGE.

WE HAVE, I HAVE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THEY TOLD ME THAT THE SCHOOL SHOULD HAVE A POLICE OFFICER, WHAT? THE SCHOOL.

TELL ME THAT THAT POLICE OFFICER CANNOT GO OUTSIDE THE PREMISES OF THE SCHOOL TO HANDLE THE THE TRAFFIC.

WE HAVE A CROSSING GUARD.

BUT SHE IS ONLY IN THE CROSSING SECTION WITH THE KIDS.

AND THAT'S ENOUGH.

BECAUSE THERE'S A CAR THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW HER DIRECTIONS.

SO, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT I RAISING MY SON AND THAT MAYBE SOME OF YOU HAVE YOUR KIDS OR.

NO. AND WE REALLY WOULD LIKE YOUR HELP ON THAT MATTER.

I APPRECIATE GO TO THE CITY, HOW PEOPLE DRIVE.

WHAT ARE GOING TO BE THE BEST SOLUTIONS? THERE'S A FEW.

BUT OF COURSE, I'M NOT LIKE ENGINEERING.

I DON'T DO TRAFFIC STUDIES, WHATEVER.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU, AS A POINT OF VIEW OF MOM AND A SAFETY PROFESSIONAL, THAT RISK IS MY MAIN CONCERN.

SO THAT'S IT.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP HERE TODAY.

COUNCILMAN. ROBERTS. GO AHEAD.

I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHAT STREET.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW.

FOR REMINDING ME IT'S GOING TO BE ON SPANISH STREETS AND CROSSING.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY MAIN ENTRANCE FOR THE SUBDIVISION.

OKAY. CROSSING IS WHERE THE POOL IS, AND THE SPANISH TRAIL IS WHERE THE SCHOOL IS.

AT THE END OF THAT ROAD IS THE SCHOOL.

OKAY. I HAVE A MAP HERE IF YOU WANT TO.

I KNOW WHERE IT IS. YEAH.

YOU ARE FROM HERE? THANK YOU.

HEY, CHIEF, CAN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM FOR A SECOND? I HAVE A QUESTION, TOO.

SO, CHIEF, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU JUST HEARD? I'VE RECEIVED THAT IN SPADES FROM A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS IN RANCHO.

AND THEN SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE AROUND THE NORTH SIDE AREA.

ELEMENTARY AND THEY'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SPEEDING.

IS THERE A FOCUS THAT CAN BE PUT ON BY THE PD TO REALLY MAYBE DO A SOME TYPE OF EVENT WHERE WE GET OUT THE NOTIFICATION THAT, HEY, WE'RE WE'RE MONITORING THESE AREAS HEAVILY DURING DURING SCHOOL YEAR TO MAYBE GET THE AWARENESS OUT

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WE WORK WITH MARTHA AND HER DEPARTMENT.

AND I MEAN, CAN YOU TELL ME, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE? AND THEN SECOND, IS THERE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE SO FAR? CAN YOU GIVE US THAT? HOW MUCH HAS BEEN COVERED? IT ABSOLUTELY CAN BE DONE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CALL SOMEBODY OUT ON OVERTIME TO GET IT DONE, BECAUSE TO GET SOMEBODY TO CONCENTRATE ON THAT AREA.

I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON CALL.

YOU KNOW, THE WE'VE WORKED WITH OR TRIED TO WORK WITH RANCHO AND THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE.

THEY'VE PUT UP CONES.

SO WE'VE GOT THE CURB PAINTED AND THIS YEAR THEY DON'T HAVE NO CONES.

THEY HAVE TEACHERS THAT STAND OUT THERE WITH A SIGN STANDING THAT SAYS, DON'T PARK HERE.

YOU CAN'T PARK HERE.

MA'AM, MAYBE WE'LL DO IT ANYWAY TONIGHT.

OH, YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THE FACT THAT THE SCHOOL POLICE CAN'T DO NOTHING IS A I'M TRYING TO BE NICE.

DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING? THEY CAN'T, SHE SAID.

DID SHE TALK TO THE SCHOOL POLICE? AND THEY SAID THEY CAN'T GET OFF THE PREMISE.

THEY HAVE JURISDICTION.

THEY HAVE JURISDICTION IN ANGLETON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY HAVE A POLICE OFFICER THERE ASSIGNED TO THAT CAMPUS.

THEY'VE SAID BEFORE THAT THAT PERSON IS THERE TO MONITOR THE KIDS GETTING ON AND OFF CARS THERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I CAN TALK TO CHIEF GRIFFIN AND FIND OUT HOW WE CAN WORK THAT BETTER.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THAT PRINCIPAL OVER THERE SINCE THAT THEY HAD A NEW PRINCIPAL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

SHE'S COME UP WITH DIFFERENT PLANS FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL.

DON'T. I'VE NEVER CONSULTED ME.

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES.

WE CAN DO SOMETHING OVER THERE.

I'LL GET SOMEBODY OVER THERE ON OVERTIME.

I'LL TALK TO CHIEF GRIFFIN TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP.

WE ACTUALLY PAID THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PAID FOR ABOUT $800 WORTH OF TRAFFIC TICKETS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THEIR BUDGET.

WE PAID FOR THEM TO HAVE TICKETS.

THEY HAVE NEW CARS, BRAND NEW CARS.

THEY HAVE RADAR IN THEM.

SO MAYBE I NEED TO VISIT THE SCHOOL BOARD AND ASK THE SCHOOL BOARD.

I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME THING IF YOU VISITED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AT ALL? NO, I'M THE SCHOOL DIRECTOR.

HAS BEEN WORKING THAT TOO, WITH OTHER NEIGHBORS.

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THEY HAVE HANDLED THAT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT WE DON'T NEED, LIKE, A POLICE OFFICER STANDING THERE.

TWO HOURS. THE PEAK ARE 20 MINUTES IN THE MORNING, 20 MINUTES IN THE AFTERNOON.

THE DISMISSAL AND THE DISMISSAL IS VERY GO RUNS VERY EASILY, VERY SMOOTH.

I THINK THAT THE PRESENCE OF A POLICE OFFICER WILL HELP A LOT, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT GIVING TICKETS OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST SEEING A POLICE OFFICER CAR GOING AROUND, MAYBE DURING THAT 20 MINUTES, LIKE TWO TIMES LIKE, HEY, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.

THE POLICE OFFICER IS THERE, THE SCHOOL POLICE OFFICER IS THERE.

BUT THERE'S ALSO BEEN BECAUSE WHEN YOU PARK ON A YELLOW LINE, THEY GIVE YOU TICKETS WHEN YOU PASS THE STOP SIGN.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT GIVES YOU TICKETS WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABOUT PUTTING IN ACTION THE LAWS OF TRAFFIC LAWS.

BECAUSE FOR WHAT I SAY, WE'RE TALKING TODAY.

THIS IS GOING TO BE FUNNY, BUT I'M TRYING TO BE LIKE THIS KIND OF LIKE COMMUNITY POLICE.

AND I JUST GET FUNNY FACES, JAILS, YOU KNOW, SCREAMS I DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO PUT THIS TO WORK. THAT'S WHY THEY NEED TO SEE SOMEONE WITH AUTHORITY.

MAYBE NOT MOM. AND IT TOOK A BOOK FROM THE.

AND WE CAME TO THE I CAN I CAN I RECOMMEND YOU ACTUALLY GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING? YES. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S THEIR PREMISES.

THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE CHILDREN THAT ARE ATTENDING THEIR SCHOOLS.

YEAH. I MEAN, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT THEY THEY HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY FOR A REASON, RIGHT.

YEAH. SO MAYBE MY NEXT STEP JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS SITUATION AND THIS.

REMEMBER THE PEOPLE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, MOST ALL OF THEM HAVE KIDS IN THE SCHOOL, SO THEY WANT TO HEAR IT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO I GREW UP THIS IN APRIL 13TH, 2023.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT GRANDCHILDREN, AND THEY WALK.

SO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU STAND THERE, LIKE, IN A CORNER FOR 20 MINUTES IN THE DISMISSAL IN THE EARLY ENTRY AND DISMISSAL.

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NO, IT IS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU SAY, HEY, THERE'S KIDS WALKING HERE ALL THE TIME AND HOW IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING LIKE THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, THESE ARE THESE ARE ALWAYS DIFFICULT ONES, RIGHT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, PEOPLE TEND TO NOT SPEED WHEN Y'ALL ARE NOT AROUND, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU YOU PUT YOU PUT A PATROL UNIT OVER THERE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SPEED. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT A MARKER UNIT OVER THERE.

YOU KNOW, YOU HIDE BEHIND A HOUSE AND YOU'RE ENTRAPPING THEM, YOU KNOW? SO PRESENCE IS GOING TO BE THE MAIN THING WE NEED TO DO.

WE NEED TO BE PRESENT.

AND YOU KNOW, I WORK WELL WITH JEROME GRIFFIN, THE SCHOOL POLICE CHIEF.

HE COOPERATES.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND AND GET THAT GOING BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS RESOLVED LAST YEAR, BUT THEN THIS YEAR THEY DON'T HAVE COMBS YET.

THEY'VE CHANGED IT UP AGAIN.

SO WE NEED CONSISTENCY.

YES, MA'AM. THIS THIS DEPARTMENT WILL SHOW YOU CONSISTENCY.

NORTHSIDE IS THE OTHER ONE, MAYOR.

NORTHSIDE IS THE OTHER ONE I GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT.

NORTH RIDGE. TINSLEY.

TINSLEY. I WAS GOING DOWN ON THE BACK.

BEHIND. ON THE BACKSIDE.

OKAY. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A CROSSING GUARD THERE THIS YEAR.

YES THEY DO.

IT'S MY HUSBAND. OH YOUR HUSBAND.

WELL, HE'S ON THE BADGE, TOO.

HE'S NOT ON TINSLEY, IS HE? CROSSING GUARD AT TINSLEY.

OKAY. AND HAS HE SEEN SPEEDERS? YES. THIS IS A COMMON DISCUSSION AT HOME.

YOU HAVE DRIVERS THAT WILL STOP ABRUPTLY, NOT USE, YOU KNOW, THEIR BLINKERS AS KIDS ARE CROSSING THE STREET.

SO HE'S THE ELEMENTARY PE TEACHER THERE.

THAT'S DUTY IS CROSSING GUARD IN THE MORNING.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF HE WAS THE ONE THAT COMPLAINED, BUT MAYBE IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE.

NO, IT CAME FROM SOMEONE ELSE. SO YES, IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT.

OKAY, BUT.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

WE. I'LL START WITH WORKING WITH CHIEF GRIFFIN.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

AND THANK YOU FOR SITTING THROUGH THREE HOURS TO STATE YOUR CASE.

APPRECIATE IT. AND REACHING OUT TO.

THAT'S RIGHT. CAN I HAVE THE NOTES FROM YOUR PRESENTATION? OKAY. BUT I'M REALLY GLAD THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE COVERED.

I'M SORRY THAT IT HASN'T WORKED OUT BECAUSE WE HAD THE SIGNS AND THE STOP SIGNS AND THE PAINTING AND THE CURBS AND.

THANK YOU. COULD I PLEASE ENCOURAGE YOU, MA'AM, IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR PROBLEM? SAME WITH YOU TO CONTACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE IT A CALL FOR SERVICE.

AND WE CAN GET IN THOSE 226 CALLS.

WE'LL MAKE IT 227IN THAT 24 HOUR PERIOD AND GET OVER THERE TO MAKE IT A CALL FOR SERVICE SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT DOCUMENTED, THAT THERE'S A CALL FOR SERVICE OVER THERE. THERE IS COMPLAINTS.

SO IF YOU DO GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, YOU CAN TAKE THE STATS OFF OF OUR NEW RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, AND THEY'LL PRINT OUT REAL NICE AND PRETTY NOW AND TAKE IT OVER THERE TO THEM AND SHOW THEM, HEY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THEY HAVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 14 POLICE OFFICERS DURING THE DAY.

WE HAVE SIX.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 11, UPDATE AND DISCUSSION ON THE HENDERSON ROADWAY PROJECT.

[11. Update and discussion on the Henderson Roadway Project.]

I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCH ON THIS.

JUST A HIGH LEVEL.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME NUMBERS OF WHERE WE'RE AT ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.

THE LAST MEETING, WE TOLD YOU THAT WE SCORED HIGH ON THE WRITTEN PORTION OF THE TIP FUNDING.

FINALLY GOT THOSE NUMBERS IN.

ACTUALLY, THE DAY AFTER THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

THE MINIMUM SCORE YOU HAD TO HAVE TO ADVANCE ON IS 50.

THE CITY OF ANGLETON ON THE HIGHEST ONE WAS 76.

IT WAS 76.

IT WAS 76.

THE MEDIAN SCORE WAS 69.

SO WE SCORED HIGH ON THAT ON THE WRITTEN PORTION.

WE WERE INVITED TO GO INTO THE BCA FOR THAT.

WE AND WE ALLOCATED SOME FUNDS FOR THIS? YES. DIDN'T KNOW.

THAT THE DEBT SERVICE THAT WE HAVEN'T GOT FOR.

YEAH. RIGHT.

YEAH. I THOUGHT WE DID.

WE DID. WE WE ALLOCATED 225,000 FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, ACQUISITION STUFF.

AND THAT'S ONGOING.

BUT THE MAJOR FUNDING HAS NOT BEEN IS THROUGH THROUGH CO.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS PART OF THE $20,000 LOTTERY.

WE ENTERED INTO.

WE DID. YES.

YES YES. THE BCA THE BCA CALCULATIONS WAS WAS THE LOTTERY THAT YOU ENTERED INTO.

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YEAH. YES.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MATCHING PART THAT WE HAVEN'T FUNDED.

IF WE WERE TO GET THE GRANT.

OKAY. YEAH. SO AFTER.

AFTER WE WERE GIVEN THE APPROVAL, WE STARTED WORKING ON THE BCA.

WE RAN THE NUMBERS, WE MET WITH HJK.

WE WENT BACK AND VERIFIED THE NUMBERS.

THE MINIMUM SCORE TO MAKE IT ELIGIBLE IS ONE.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET ANGLETON TO 1.5, SO THE CITY OF ANGLETON SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING THROUGH HVAC TIP FUNDING.

THIS IS GREAT NEWS! THAT IS AWESOME NEWS.

ON A ON A 80 OVER 20 MATCH.

ON AN 80 OVER 20 MATCH.

RIGHT. THAT IS AWESOME.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THEIR NUMBERS.

SEE, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO POKE HOLES IN OURS.

SEE HOW THAT COMES UP.

AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL FINALIZE IT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHERE YOU'RE RANKED OVER THE TOTAL SCORE.

BUT IT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A WHILE, WE FOUND A THING FOR A BIG PROJECT THAT WHERE WE MET THE BCA.

THE BCA WAS ALWAYS THE HARDEST THING ON ON THE IN THE DRAINAGE, BECAUSE LUCKILY THE CITY OF ANGLETON DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF DRAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE STRUCTURAL FLOODING.

THIS IS A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT SAFETY PROJECT, AND IT DID MEET THE BCA OF A 1.5 SO SCORED HIGH ON BOTH OF THEM.

MOVING ON.

WE ARE DOING THE HENDERSON TASK FORCE.

THE HENDERSON TASK FORCE.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET PREVIOUSLY ON THE 20TH OR 21ST OF AUGUST.

THE 20TH OF AUGUST.

SOMETHING CAME UP WHERE WE COULD NOT MEET.

SO WE HAVE RESCHEDULED THAT MEETING FOR WEDNESDAY, NEXT WEDNESDAY.

SO WE WILL HAVE THAT MEETING ON THERE WHERE WE'LL BE TALKING ON ON TOPICS SUCH AS THE INNER CITY AND HENDERSON.

WE'LL ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT PHASING AND KIND OF GOING OVER CONSTRUCTION AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN.

WITH THAT, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO IN TOO MUCH MORE UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS.

I THINK I'VE SUBMITTED THE DRAWINGS FROM THE PREVIOUS TASK FORCE MEETING TO WHERE Y'ALL COULD LOOK AT IT.

WE'VE INCORPORATED WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS, SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND PROGRESSING FORWARD ON THAT.

BUT WE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

WE HAD THE TASK FORCE MEETING AND INCORPORATE ALL THE COMMENTS AND PHASING AND APPROACHES THAT WE WANT TO DO.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S EXCITING.

IT'S GOOD NEWS TO AT OUR AT OUR NEXT TASK FORCE MEETING.

I'M GOING TO BRING A FEW QUESTIONS TO YOU REGARDING THE CURRENT BRAZORIA COUNTY DRAINAGE CRITERIA MANUAL.

AND I FORGET WHAT SECTION IT IS, BUT IT IS THE THE, THE SIZE OF THE FLOOD THAT YOU DESIGNED YOUR SYSTEM FOR.

OKAY. YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT THEN.

OKAY, I'LL BE THERE.

THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP.

THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU.

THANKS, JOHN. ITEM NUMBER 12.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON HENDERSON ROAD.

SIDEWALK AND MOWING MAINTENANCE.

YES. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[12. Discussion and possible action on Henderson Road sidewalk and mowing maintenance. ]

THE CITY WAS CONTACTED VIA WORK ORDER SYSTEM THROUGH IWERKS FROM A RESIDENT IN HERITAGE PARK SUBDIVISION TO MOW THE SIDEWALK AREA ALONG THAT ROUTE FROM HENDERSON, THERE'S APARTMENTS OFF OF HENDERSON TO THE EAST, AND THEN TRAVELING ALL THE WAY WEST TO ANGLETON JUNIOR HIGH.

WE DID NOTE HERE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET THAT THE PARCEL OF LAND, UPON FURTHER INVESTIGATION, PARK SUPERINTENDENT AND MYSELF FOUND THAT THE THE LAND ACTUALLY BELONGED TO HERITAGE PARK HOA.

WE DID BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE CITY MANAGER AND ASKED FOR DIRECTION REGARDING MAINTENANCE, AND NOTED THAT WE WOULD NOT GO OUT AND MAINTAIN THAT AREA UNLESS DIRECTED OTHERWISE.

SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WE ACTUALLY HAD A RESIDENT FROM THAT SUBDIVISION COME AND VISIT BOTH STEWART AND MYSELF AND OUR OFFICE REGARDING SOME OF THE CONCERNS.

MISTER SHEFFIELD.

WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PREDICAMENT THAT WE WERE IN BECAUSE IT WAS NOT CITY PROPERTY.

AND SOME POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS THAT WE COULD PURSUE, INCLUDING THE LAND BEING CONVEYED TO THE CITY OF ANGLETON SO WE COULD MAINTAIN IT, OR ALSO ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT SO WE COULD MAINTAIN IT.

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RECENTLY WE HAD ANOTHER REQUEST TO MOW ALONG THAT HENDERSON ROAD AND THAT WALKING PATH.

AND WE BROUGHT THIS UP AGAIN TO THE CITY MANAGER.

AND I KNOW JOHN, WE'VE BEEN IN CORRESPONDENCE.

JOHN WAS LOOPED INTO THAT EMAIL AS WELL AND BROUGHT TO LIGHT THAT THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL BACK IN 2009.

SO MICHELLE WAS ABLE TO PULL THOSE MINUTES.

THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

SO THE CITY DID INSTALL THEY HIRED A CONTRACTOR IN 2009 TO INSTALL BRIDGE WALKWAYS AS WELL AS ASPHALT WALKWAY TO CREATE A TRAIL PATH OR SIDEWALK, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE JUNIOR HIGH HIGH SCHOOL.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU THIS EVENING IS JUST SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO PROCEED WITH RESPECT TO MAINTENANCE OF THAT AREA.

I DO KNOW AND CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN MAINTAINING THE WOODEN BRIDGES AND SPRAYING THE ASPHALT WALKWAY WITH SUICIDE.

BUT AS FAR AS MOWING AND MAINTAINING THE GROUNDS ADJACENT TO THAT PATHWAY, WE HAVE NOT BEEN MAINTAINING IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE CITY.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST HERE TONIGHT.

WE WERE ASKED TO BRING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FUTURE DIRECTION, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE PROTECTING THE CITY, BUT ALSO SERVING THE COMMUNITY.

SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO CITY COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS.

YEAH. SPEAKING TO GARY, IT SEEMED LIKE THIS WAS KIND OF AN ONGOING THING BETWEEN HIM AND A COUPLE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE OVER THERE LAST TIME I SPOKE WITH HIM, AND THEY WERE GETTING A LITTLE FED UP WITH IT.

WELL, AND JUST SO YOU ALSO KNOW, WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO MR. SHEFFIELD. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE HOA HAS DISSOLVED.

AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER HURDLE.

SO HAVING THE HOA AGREE TO DONATE THE LAND TO THE CITY IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE IS NO HOA.

AGAIN, ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE HOA IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE IS NO HOA.

SO THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL HURDLES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GET PAST IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THIS THROUGH EITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS.

WELL THAT'S INTERESTING. NOT HAVE AN OWNER TO TALK TO, BECAUSE LOOKING AT THAT STRIP OF LAND THERE, THAT WOULD BE VERY ADVANTAGEOUS.

RIGHT TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE FOR THE HENDERSON ROAD PROJECT.

THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. WELL, I WAS GOING TO ASK IS IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE ROAD.

RIGHT THERE IS BRUSHY BY RIGHT.

SO THE FARTHER YOU CAN SCOOP THE PAVEMENT NORTH, THE BETTER.

SO YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT TOO.

ONE CONSIDERATION AND THIS WOULD REALLY BE A LEGAL COUNSEL QUESTION IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THE THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA COULD PETITION TO HAVE THAT TAKEN OVER BY THE CITY, AND THEN THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IN THAT WAY.

SINCE THE HOA IS SUPPOSEDLY DISSOLVED, I DON'T KNOW.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ACTUALLY A LEGITIMATE HOA CORPORATION WITH THEIR DOCUMENTS FILED WITH THE STATE.

THERE MAY NOT BE AN ACTUAL HOA.

SO IF THERE IS NO HOA, THEN THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS CAN GET TOGETHER.

THEY'RE ALL HOA MEMBERS BECAUSE IT'S A BYPRODUCT OF WHEN THEY PURCHASE THE HOME, THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.

AND THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND PETITION TO COME HERE AND TELL YOU THEY'LL DONATE THE LAND.

BUT I MEAN, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T REALLY MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE I REPRESENT THE CITY.

SO. SURE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YES, THE ANSWER IS THOSE PEOPLE COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

HOW MANY HOMEOWNERS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? PROBABLY OVER 20.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT TO THE PROPERTY BEING DISCUSSED.

I KNOW JEFF DOESN'T HE DOESN'T LIVE UP AGAINST THE DITCH.

RIGHT? HE'S IN THE HOLE.

HE'S IN THE HOA.

JUST REAL QUICK.

SO I WAS ON COUNCIL.

I'M THE ONE THAT MADE THE MOTION IN 2009.

SO IN 2009, WE HAD I THINK IT WAS 2008.

WE HAD A GIRL, I THINK IT WAS A GIRL HIT A AS SHE WAS WALKING ALONG THE ROAD ON HENDERSON BACK IN THE DAY, AND THE COUNCIL WAS VERY FAST TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET A SIDEWALK BUILT ACROSS THERE.

WE AGREED TO PUT THE SIDEWALK ACROSS THERE AND MAINTAIN IT, ALTHOUGH THE MINUTES DON'T SHOW THAT.

BUT HERB SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, SOME ABOUT BEING MAINTAINED, BUT IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT.

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AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO BE SAFE AND SAVE MONEY WHERE WE CAN, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY SAFE PASSAGE FOR THE KIDS ALONG THAT PATHWAY.

AND I'M NOT SAYING MOW THE WHOLE RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.

BUT I AM SAYING THAT WE WE NEED, FOR THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS, MOW THAT SIDEWALK ON THE SIDE, WORK ON THIS HOA AGREEMENT, GETTING IT DEEDED OVER TO US, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THAT.

IF WE'RE MAINTAINING IT, IT SHOULD BE US.

AND YOUR DECISION BACK THEN WAS BASED ON ONE OF THE FEW EXCEPTIONS TO SPENDING PUBLIC FUNDS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO IF THERE IS A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE, WHICH THERE IS APPARENTLY BECAUSE YOU HAD SOMEONE GET INJURED.

SO THAT EXPENDITURE IS OKAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S CASE LAW.

CONSTITUTION SAYS YOU CAN'T SPEND PUBLIC FUNDS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT TEXAS CASE LAW SAYS, WELL, YOU CAN IF THERE'S A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE.

SO THERE'S A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE NOW THAT YOU'VE EXPLAINED THE REST OF IT.

THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO, AREN'T THERE.

SORRY. THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO.

TWO WHAT? WE HAD A RECENT INCIDENT THIS YEAR.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? THE THE THE INCIDENT.

AND THEN ALSO THE HENDERSON ROAD CORRIDOR.

SO DO WE KNOW IF THOSE 20 PROPERTY OWNERS, WITHOUT CONVEYING THE PROPERTY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN REIMBURSING THE CITY? I DO NOT KNOW THAT.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. PROBABLY NOT.

PROBABLY NOT. BUT YOU GOT TO ASK, YOU KNOW.

ALL I'M SAYING IS, IF YOU SPEND THAT MONEY TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, IT IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION ABOUT SPENDING PUBLIC FUNDS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE. I MEAN, WE'VE WE'VE MAINTAINED IT ALL THESE YEARS, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO GO OVERBOARD AND MAINTAIN THE WHOLE RIGHT OF WAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING ALONG THAT SIDEWALK SO THERE IS A SAFE PATH FOR THE KIDS.

COLLEEN, I SAW YOUR COLLEEN STILL BACK THERE.

NO. SHE'S THERE. OH, SO I SAW COLLEEN'S EMAIL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FROM A FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, AND LEGAL US GETTING IN TROUBLE IF SOMEBODY GOT HURT ON IT OR.

BUT IF WE DON'T MAINTAIN IT AND THEY GET HURT, WE'RE THE ONES THAT PUT THAT SIDEWALK IN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO WHY AREN'T WE STILL LIABLE? WELL, JUST EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET HURT ON IF THEY FALL OFF THE BRIDGE BECAUSE OF A ROTTEN PIECE OF WOOD OR.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE MAINTAINED THE SIDEWALK.

IT REALLY IT'S JUST THE GROUNDS THAT ARE ADJACENT THAT ARE IN QUESTION.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. RIGHT.

AND SO WE JUST NEED DIRECTION ON IF YOU WANT US TO MOW A PARCEL THAT'S NOT OURS AND YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN THE DATE.

STUART AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION TWO.

WE HAVE STAFF THAT ARE ALREADY MOWING A DITCH THAT IS ALONG THE SIDEWALK.

SO IT IS OF NO, I MEAN, WE CAN DO A PASS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK.

EXACTLY, AND LEAVE THE REMAINDER OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO US UNTIL WE FIGURE THIS OUT.

AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE HARDLY ANY TIME AT ALL.

TURNED DOWN ONCE. THAT'S RIGHT.

THE OTHER SIDE. AND YOU'RE GONE.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE JUST WOULD LIKE TO FORMALIZE WHAT THAT DIRECTION IS.

BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON THE SIDE OF GETTING THIS LAND CONVEYED OVER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

CAN WE SEND LETTERS OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE BASED IN HENDERSON AND ASKING IF WE GET A PERCENTAGE BACK? YES. THEY'LL DATE IT TO US.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED IN THE REAL PROPERTY RECORDS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE REALLY IS ANY KIND OF HOA ENTITY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO TANGLE WITH.

IF IT'S ONLY 20 PROPERTY OWNERS, IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

THERE'S 60 TOTAL 15 THAT ACTUALLY BACK UP.

YEAH, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ONES YOU NEED PERMISSION FROM, ISN'T IT? NO, IT'S THE WHOLE.

NO, IT'S THE WHOLE.

I KNOW, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES COMPLAINING.

PROBABLY. WELL, WHEN YOU BUY A PROPERTY THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THAT HOA.

SO IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE HOA, EVEN IF IT'S NOT REALLY DOING WHATEVER IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO, YOU'VE GOT THAT THAT RIGHT, THAT RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, THAT JOINT RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP.

SO ALL OF THOSE 60 PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD HAVE A SAY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO CONVEY THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY TO THE PUBLIC ENTITY.

I'D SAY PROBABLY MOST OF THEM WOULD.

WHY WOULDN'T THEY? YEAH.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.

I DON'T WANT TO GO MOW THE GRASS.

YEAH, RIGHT. AND THEN TO JUST TO NOTE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN YOUR CALCULATION, CHRISTY OR NOT, BUT IF YOU GUYS RECALL THAT RECENT ADDITION, THE LAST ROAD IN THERE IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE HOA.

CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS OR JUST DIRECTION?

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SO WE CAN LOOK AT HENDERSON ROAD AND ALL THAT.

WELL, I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO BRING IN THE OTHER ISSUE ALONG THAT THAT SIDEWALK AND THAT IS THE RETENTION POND RIGHT THERE THAT WE KEEP GETTING ASKED TO MOW AND MAINTAIN.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOA AS WELL.

CORRECT. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE SAME TIME IN THIS.

AND I MEAN, IF THE CITY WANTS TO GET IN THE BUSINESS OF MOWING DETENTION PONDS.

CHRIS PELTIER'S BROTHER ALWAYS SAYS THAT IT'S NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY.

AND IT IS. THAT'S THE ONE.

YEAH, COUSIN, THAT'S AN ONGOING DISPUTE.

IT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY.

SO, COUNCIL, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS? JUST SO WE HAVE SOMETHING CEMENTED.

SO MAYBE WE SEND HIM A LETTER OR NOT TALK TO HIM.

I MEAN, OR DO WE, DO WE NEED TO FORMALLY ADDRESS EXACTLY HOW MUCH OF THIS WE PLAN TO KNOW? YEAH. SO, ARE WE FOLLOWING CECIL'S LEAD HERE? JUST WALK DOWN EACH SIDE OF THE.

YEAH. SIDEWALK. SIDEWALK.

QUICK AND EASY. WE CAN DO THAT.

THEN WE NEED TO OPEN UP A LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS TO SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE ACQUIRING, ACQUIRING THAT THAT PARCEL OR THOSE MULTIPLE PARCELS, THEN WE'LL BLOW IT.

ALL I DO, I DO I WOULD APPRECIATE HAVING CLEAR DIRECTION SPECIFICALLY ON THE DETENTION POND, ONLY BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE SETTING A PRECEDENT. AND YOU HAVE SOME OTHER AREAS THAT THIS WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR.

I THINK THAT DETENTION POND NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED AND MOWED, BUT I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE'VE NEVER AGREED TO DO THAT.

I WOULD NEVER. THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M GOING TO BAT ON THIS ONE IS BECAUSE I MADE THE MOTION BACK IN OH NINE WITH THE FULL INTENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT.

NOT THAT WE NEVER NO, I JUST WANT TO JUST DECIDE WHAT WE'RE TALKING.

JUST A SIDEWALK.

OKAY. BUT I WOULD I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE IT IF WE WOULD MAINTAIN AT LEAST FIVE FOOT ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK JUST FOR SAFETY.

I KNOW A SWATH 60 INCH MOWER PRETTY CLOSE TO FIVE, BUT AT LEAST FIVE FOOT IT'S BEING SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, ON EITHER SIDE. SO.

SO ONE MORE DECK WIDTH ON EITHER SIDE.

I MEAN AT LEAST AT A MINIMUM WITH.

I WAS JUST BEING SPECIFIC OF FIVE, BUT WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO SAY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YES, MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THIS LAND CONVEYED OVER TO US.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT ANYWAYS.

SO. OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S ALL I NEED. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. GREAT.

NUMBER 13, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION FOR MATCH FUNDING FOR THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT FOR THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER GENERATOR.

[13. Discussion and possible action for match funding for the Hazard Mitigation Grant for the Angleton Recreation Center generator.]

I WAS RECENTLY NOTIFIED THAT FEMA IS WORKING TOWARDS FUNDING THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER.

GENERATOR. THIS GRANT WAS WRITTEN IN 2021.

WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF INFLATION.

INFLATION SINCE THEN.

SO IT'S A 90.

YES, IT IS A 9010 MATCH.

BUT DUE TO THE CHANGES IN THE ORIGINAL QUOTES THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH APPROXIMATELY $82,000 FOR THE GENERATOR FOR THE ANGLETON REC CENTER TO FUND THAT PROJECT.

ANY SUGGESTIONS? JUST TO ALSO, I THE LAST UPDATE I HAD BROUGHT TO YOU IN FEBRUARY WAS ABOUT THE GRANT MATCHES THAT WE SIGNED AND SUBMITTED FOR THE FEMA GRANTS.

THREE TOTAL ONE IS MOVED FORWARD AND HAS PENDING APPROVAL.

SO I AM ALSO RECOMMENDING AN ADDITIONAL MATCH OF 87,000 TO MATCH THE OTHER GRANTS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.

WHY DON'T WE TRY TO BITE THE 82,000 OFF FIRST?

[04:15:01]

WE'RE LOOKING AT $169,000.

I MEAN, YOU DO HAVE YOU DO.

YOU CAN TURN DOWN THE GRANT.

YOU DO HAVE THAT OPTION TO TURN DOWN THE GRANT FOR THE ANGLETON REC CENTER.

HOW LONG DOES THE GRANT FOR? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, LIKE, 60 DAYS, I THINK IS 60 TO 90 DAYS TO APPROVE OR SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE GRANT.

SO YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR ADDS TO THE BUDGET.

YEAH. AND THE REASON I BRING UP THE OTHER GRANTS, TOO, IS IF I HAVE TO COME BACK IN THE BUDGET YEAR.

YEA. COME BACK WHEN? IF THEY'RE APPROVED.

JAMIE. THIS 82,000.

WHEN DOES. WHEN DOES THE EXPENDITURE TAKE PLACE? BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST OR AFTER OF THIS YEAR.

YEAH, IT'LL TAKE PLACE AFTER.

SO IT'LL BE IN THE NEXT BUDGET? YES. AND THAT QUOTE INCLUDED THE FUEL TANK AND EVERYTHING.

RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY.

I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THIS YEAR.

BE NICE TO KNOW.

SO PHIL CAN MAYBE GET US THAT INFORMATION.

HOW HOW MUCH HAVE WE PULLED OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR? AND WITH THE EXPENSES WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO FINISH, EXCLUDING BARREL AND MARCH STORM.

WHAT THE FUND BALANCES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND THIS IS A THIS CAN ONLY BE, WELL, THIS CAN ONLY BE FUNDED THROUGH GENERAL FUND.

CORRECT. IT CAN'T.

THERE'S NO PURPOSE FOR WATER, SEWER OR ANYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? NO. OKAY.

SO JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, SALES TAX, WE WON'T REALIZE THE FINAL SALES TAX UNTIL NOVEMBER, RIGHT? RIGHT. NOVEMBER.

IT'S LIKE WE'LL GET THE SEPTEMBER REPORT TOMORROW AND SUCH.

AND WE'RE WE'RE ALREADY AT 5%, AND WE BUDGETED THIS YEAR FOR 7%.

I'M CONFIDENT SHE WILL ADVISE ME THAT YOU SHOULD FUND ALSO A PORTION OF THIS.

I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT.

WELL YOU DO.

BUT YOU JUST SAID ABLC WON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING LEFT.

RIGHT. THEY WON'T HAVE ANY AVAILABILITY.

NECESSARILY HAVE ANYTHING IN THEIR CONTINGENCY.

BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IF WE BRING OVER THE REVENUE THAT WAS PROJECTED THAT GOES INTO THEIR FUND BALANCE, CORRECT, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED BY ABLC TO KEEP UP TO $100,000 OF THAT IN AN ARC FUND BALANCE.

WE'RE ALREADY PROJECTING TO EXCEED THAT PUTTING IN PROBABLY I MEAN, DON'T QUOTE ME ABOUT 50,000 BACK INTO ABLC FUND BALANCE. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE YOU COULD DESIGNATE IT FOR THAT.

WE HAVE ALREADY TENTATIVELY DESIGNATED IT FOR THE ARC FEASIBILITY SO THAT THAT CAN ROLL RIGHT INTO THE TP, W GRANT OR WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HITTING ALL OF THOSE MARKS. BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND IT ON FEASIBILITY AND YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON A GENERATOR, THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL.

AND. I WOULD APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE THAT REC CENTER OVER THERE AS A HEATING CENTER, AS A COOLING CENTER, AS A PLACE THAT PEOPLE COULD GO THAT HAD NO OTHER PLACE TO GO TO.

TRUE. IT HAS BEEN USED.

THE SHOWERS HAVE BEEN USED FOR PEOPLE WHEN APARTMENT COMPLEXES RUN OUT OF WATER.

IT'S IT'S BEEN A WEALTH OF USE FOR THE CITY.

THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH, THAT WE COULD HELP OUR FELLOW MAN OUT MORE THAN JUST A SWIMMING POOL.

YES, SIR. AND OTHER STUFF.

YEAH. I WAS REALLY EXCITED WHEN WE WERE AWARDED THIS GRANT.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TRY OUR BEST TO KEEP IT.

WHEN DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR DECISION BY? WE HAVE SOME TIME. I JUST WANT TO BRING IT.

SO LET'S BRING IT BACK ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

YEAH. LET'S BRING THAT BACK.

AND WITH ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE WITH ABLC.

AND AT THE SAME TIME TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO GET THE, THE SEPTEMBER SALES TAX, WHICH IS JULY, WHICH WAS THE STORM,

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THAT'S JUST MY ESTIMATE.

SEE HOW WE FINISH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANKS. THANKS.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE MADE IT TO THE LAST PAGE.

NOW, ITEM NUMBER 14.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON VARIOUS PLAT EXTENSION EOA REQUESTS FOR THE ASHLAND.

[14. Discussion and possible action on various Plat Extension (EOA) requests for the Ashland Sections 3, 4, 5, 6, and Street Dedication #4 Preliminary Plats.]

PRELIMINARY PLATS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS STATED, THIS IS A PLAT EXTENSION REQUEST BY QUIDDITY ON BEHALF OF ANCHOR ASSOCIATES.

I'M SORRY. THE ANCHOR LLC FOR THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT ON VARIOUS PLATS.

COUNCIL APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION.

WE HAVE THE UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN BEFORE YOU, AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO SEE THE PENDING LOCATION OF THE FIRE STATION ALONG 521.

AND I HAVE ALSO THE VARIOUS PLATS TO FOLLOW ON THE AGENDA ITEM, BEGINNING WITH PAGE 79.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THEY'RE ASKING FOR ONE YEAR.

JUST TO DEAL WITH SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING WITH THE COMPLETION OF VARIOUS STAGES OF THE PROJECT APPROVAL.

COUNCIL. TO.

EXPLAIN THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

REVIEW COORDINATION WITH CITY STAFF.

SO THAT HAS TO DO WITH CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

WHAT? EXPLAIN WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

SO CURRENTLY ALONG PHASE TWO AND THE ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL RIGHT ABOVE THIS CAR HAVEN SOME OF THOSE RIGHT OF WAY. CONSTRUCTION THEY'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO.

WE JUST HAD THE CONSTRUCTION MEETING LAST WEEK JUST TO COMMENCE THAT CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEY WERE DOING SOME MANIPULATIONS OF THE PIPING.

IN TERMS OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THOSE DETAILS.

THEY, I THINK, JUST RECEIVED SOME APPROVALS FROM THE COUNTY ON VARIOUS CONSTRUCTION PLANS AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO ASSURE THAT CITY STAFF IS NOT HOLDING THEM UP.

WE'VE BEEN JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS TO TRY TO GET THEM MOVING FORWARD EVERY TIME THEY'VE COME IN HERE.

BUT TO READ THE SEED THAT THE CITY STAFF IS HOLDING THEM UP, WE WOULD NEED TO PLEASE ADDRESS THAT ASPECT.

I THINK THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL.

SURE. SO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JOHN ALVAREZ.

I'M THE ENGINEER AND PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE ASHLAND DEVELOPMENT.

IN REGARDS TO PLAN APPROVALS, I MEAN, WE ARE WORKING WITH YOUR CITY ENGINEER HDR, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED COMMENTS ON THOSE.

YOU KNOW, WE GAVE THEM ABOUT EIGHT PLAN SETS.

AND THEY'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THEM.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING READY PROBABLY ABOUT TOMORROW TO RESUBMIT OUR PLANS BACK TO THEM AND WORK THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD HEARD FROM OTIS WAS THAT THE COUNCIL DID NOT WANT TO SEE FINAL PLATS UNTIL EVERYTHING HAD BEEN ADDRESSED, AND ONE OF THOSE IS USUALLY GETTING THROUGH YOUR CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

SO WE'RE JUST AT THAT STAGE.

OKAY. SO THEN IT'S NOT CITY STAFF, IT'S IT'S HDR AT THE COUNTY.

IT'S I WON'T PUT A NAME ON WHOEVER'S HOLDING IT UP.

SURE. I MEAN, I THINK THE PROJECT'S HAD MULTIPLE AGENCIES AND DIFFICULTIES.

I MEAN, OTIS MENTIONED BRAZORIA COUNTY.

THAT'S PART OF IT. TO GET THE CORRECT ITEMS. I MEAN, CITY REVIEW TIMES ARE OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING I CAN'T CONTROL, BUT WE UNDERSTAND IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS.

I'M A PRIVATE ENGINEER.

I WISH IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A DAY TURNAROUND, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S REALISTIC.

IF YOU'RE SUBMITTING FOUR SETS OF CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AT ONE TIME TO BE TO BE REVIEWED, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO REVIEW IT.

YES, SIR. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HDR, SPECIFICALLY JAVIER VAZQUEZ, WHO'S BEEN HELPING OUT ON THIS ONE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE PLAN ON DOING IS HAVING MAYBE MORE REGULAR MEETINGS TO PROVIDE SOME CONSISTENCY AND FEEDBACK TO HIM.

AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER GETS WHAT THEY NEED IN A TIMELY MANNER.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S ENGINEER GETS THE INFORMATION THEY NEED FROM US.

WELL, THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS TO HOLD YOUR DEVELOPMENT UP.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY.

SO IT JUST APPEARS TO ME THAT YOU NEED AN EXTENSION BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING WRONG.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IF IT'S IF IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S LOTS OR YOU'RE NOT READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S OKAY TOO.

[04:25:04]

I MEAN, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF REVIEWS OF COMMENTS MOST OF THE TIME, AND IF YOU NEED ALL THOSE THINGS DONE BEFORE WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT STAGE, I'M TIED TO THAT PROCESS.

SO ANYWAY, WE EXPECT THAT.

YES, SIR. WELL, AND I THINK THIS IS A RESULT OF US BEING ASKED TO MAKE MOTIONS IN THE PAST BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ANY FINALITY TO THE PLANTS AND STUFF. AND THAT WAS A THAT WAS AN ISSUE IN THE PAST.

AND I THINK WE'VE ALL VOICED AN OPINION THAT WE WOULD LIKE THAT PROCESS TO KIND OF COME TO AN END.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO GO FASTER IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED.

I'M SURE THE DEVELOPER WOULD SAY THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAST AS WE CAN GO WOULD BE GREAT.

SO IF WE DO HAVE ANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS, I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK UP HERE AND LET YOU KNOW.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

I'VE BEEN IN YOUR SHOES.

I'VE SUBMITTED STUFF TO BE REVIEWED, AND IT GOT THROUGH IN GLACIAL SPEED.

AND THAT DOESN'T HELP THE DEVELOPER.

SO YES, SIR, I'LL I'LL LET THE DEVELOPER SPEAK IF HE'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

MARK CAN'T WAIT.

MAYOR COUNCIL, THIS IS MARK JANIK WITH ASHTON ASHEN GRAY DEVELOPMENT.

I'M VP OF LAND.

FREESE AND NICHOLS, BRAZORIA COUNTY.

THAT'S WHAT'S HOLDING UP OUR SCHOOL RIGHT NOW.

THEY'VE GUARANTEED TO APPROVE OUR DRAINAGE STUDY TOMORROW.

WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

AND THE SCHOOL WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT EMAIL.

THAT DRAINAGE STUDY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVED THREE MONTHS AGO.

THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF COMMENTS HAVE BEEN NON-SEQUENTIAL.

WHEN THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE SCHOOL SAID THAT THIS MAY HOLD UP THEIR SCHOOL.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, HER COUNTY ENGINEERING STARTED MOVING QUICKLY, AND THEY GUARANTEED THAT THE DRAINAGE STUDY WILL BE APPROVED TOMORROW.

WE'RE FULL SPEED AHEAD.

JUST THIS AFTERNOON, OUR CONSTRUCTION LOAN CLOSED JUST SHY OF $50 MILLION.

SO WE'RE PULLING THE TRIGGER.

WE'RE GOING TO GO STRAIGHT TO FINAL PLAT ON THESE FOUR PRELIMINARY PLATS.

AS SOON AS YOU APPROVE THE EXTENSION AND WE'RE FULL SPEED AHEAD, WE HAVE FOUR NATIONAL BUILDERS ON BOARD.

I THINK WE HAVE A DEAL WITH TEX DOT FOR A TEMPORARY.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ABOUT 1000 FOOT OF PERMANENT FEEDER, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TEMPORARY EXIT AND ENTRANCE RAMPS ON THE 288, FOLLOWING ALL THEIR SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S REDUCED THE FEEDER PROJECT FROM 20 MILLION TO 5 MILLION.

THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO CONVERT ALL THAT RED THAT YOU CAN SEE UP THERE ON THE RIGHT TO COMMERCIAL FOR POSSIBLE CITY CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? NO, IT WAS THE SALES CENTER.

OH, YEAH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A TOWN CENTER, SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE $5 MILLION, BUT WE WE THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE ON THAT, ON THAT AGREEMENT, AND THAT'S GOING TO REALLY OPEN THAT UP TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY HEB IF THEY CAN GET FEEDER ACCESS AND LOTS ON THE GROUND THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN PUTTING THEIR SUPERCENTER ON IN THAT COMMERCIAL AREA THERE.

SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE COMING UP ON OUR ONE YEAR ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.

WE TYPICALLY DON'T ASK FOR AN EXTENSION BECAUSE ONCE WE GET PRELIMINARY PLATS, WE GO TO FINAL PLAT.

IF YOU COULD ROLL UP ON THE SCREEN, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE THING.

THERE WAS MISCOMMUNICATION ON THE FIRE STATION BETWEEN ME AND STAFF.

AND OF COURSE, I'M GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MISCOMMUNICATION.

CAN WE ROLL THAT UP A LITTLE BIT? IF YOU'LL NOTICE, PHASE ONE IS EVERYTHING NORTH OF OUR BOULEVARD, COUNTY ROAD.

OKAY. THERE'S TWO COMMERCIAL RESERVES THERE.

THE COMMERCIAL RESERVE ACROSS FROM THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE A DAYCARE CENTER.

WE'RE ALREADY TALKING TO A POSSIBLE BUYER.

AND THE COMMERCIAL AT THE ENTRANCE ROAD.

THE THE BOTTOM ONE.

WE CAN'T PUT A FIRE STATION AT OUR MAIN ENTRANCE, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THE FIRE CHIEF WANTS WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE.

AND I'M ASSUMING YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE ON SITE DETENTION.

SO WE WANT TO TIE OUR UTILITIES TO YOUR SITE AND PROVIDE YOU DETENTION.

BUT IT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A COMMERCIAL RESERVE IN PHASE ONE.

SO I THOUGHT I ASKED THE CITY STAFF A FEW MONTHS AGO, WHAT'S THE TIMING ON THE FIRE STATION SO I CAN MAKE SURE I'LL HAVE UTILITIES THERE IN TIME. WHEN I FOUND OUT FROM MY ENGINEER THAT THIS WAS CAUSING STRESS WITH THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, I ASKED THE QUESTION AGAIN.

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I THINK HE WANTS TO START IT WITHIN A YEAR.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR DESIGN. WITHIN THE YEAR I CAN GET.

IF YOU ROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT THE FIRE STATION.

I CAN GET UTILITIES THERE.

SO THAT WAS THE WHOLE HOLDUP.

NOW THAT WE'VE FOUND A PLACE THAT WE CAN GET UTILITIES TO BECAUSE, SEE, MY MOBILE HOME PARK THAT'S GOING TO COME IN PHASE ONE.

SO I CAN I CAN GET WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE TO THE FIRE STATION.

THAT WAS THE HOLDUP.

ON MOVING THE FIRE STATION TO 521.

I NEEDED TO KNOW THE TIMING.

I'VE GOT THE TIMING.

I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD LOCATION THERE.

AS LONG AS THERE'S A FIRE MARSHAL APPROVES IT.

SO WE'RE GOING FULL SPEED AHEAD.

THE SUPERINTENDENT ALSO TOLD BRAZORIA COUNTY ENGINEERING THAT WITHOUT ROOFTOPS, THE NEW SCHOOLS WILL BE EMPTY.

SO ALL OF A SUDDEN, BRAZORIA COUNTY ENGINEERING HAS BEEN MOVING VERY QUICKLY.

THEY'VE BEEN PUSHING FREESE AND NICHOLS TO GET THIS DRAINAGE STUDY APPROVED.

AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVED TOMORROW.

SO WE'RE KEEPING OUR FINGERS CROSSED BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED COOPERATION FROM THE COUNTY.

SO FAR, THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE, AND THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO TAKE THE BLAME FOR THE MISCOMMUNICATION ON THE FIRE STATION.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

COUNCIL. WELL, JUDITH, CAN WE MAKE A CONDITIONAL PLAT PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL BASED ON THE FIRE STATION POSITION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US SINCE.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN WRITING.

SO IS THE FIRE STATION ON THE PLAT.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS AND ALSO LAND ACQUISITION.

SO IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

DO YOU HAVE THAT ON THE PLAT? NO, SIR, THAT'S NOT PLATTED.

THIS IS JUST THEIR DESIGN PLAN.

THIS IS OUR CONCEPT PLAN.

THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT COMMERCIAL RESERVE ON THE PLOTS, NOT THE ONES THE FIRE STATION WOULD NOT BE.

IT WOULD BE A MINOR, A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE LAND PLAN, AND SOME OF WHICH THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE OR SEND IT TO COUNCIL ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.

THAT'S NOT ON ANY OF THESE.

I'M WITH YOU NOW.

YOU ARE? WE ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT THAT THE FIRE STATION HAS TO BE THERE PURSUANT TO AGREEMENT.

SO WE ALREADY. THE CITY'S ALREADY PROTECTED CONTRACTUALLY.

I WAS GOING TO SAY IF IT WAS GOING TO SHOW UP ON THE PLAT, THAT.

YEAH, YOU COULD DO IT THAT WAY, BUT I DON'T CONDITIONING THE PLAT, THE THE THE EXTENSION BY SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ALREADY PROTECTED WITH CONTRACTUALLY ISN'T GOING TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE EQUATION.

SO NOW, IF YOU WANT ME TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, I CAN SEND A LETTER REINFORCING THAT PURSUANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SECTION, WHAT IT'S ALSO IN YOUR SPA AGREEMENT. JUST A REMINDER THAT YOU'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO DO THAT.

WE CAN DO THAT. IT'S A BIGGER STICK.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE'LL MOVE TO GRANT THE EXTENSION OF ONE YEAR TO THE ASHLAND SECTION THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX PRELIMINARY PLATS AND THE ASHLAND STREET DEDICATION NUMBER FOUR, PRELIMINARY PLAN.

SECOND. THAT WAS A SECOND, RIGHT.

SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR THE EXTENSION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

FOUR. TWO. ITEM NUMBER 15.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240910015.

[15. Discussion and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20240910-015 2024 Annual Service Plan Update for the public improvements in the Riverwood Ranch, Phases 1 and 2 Public Improvement District (PID), and approving the updates to the 2024 Assessment Roll, in accordance with chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code]

IMPROVEMENTS IN THE RIVERWOOD RANCH PHASES ONE AND TWO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND APPROVING THE UPDATES TO THE 2024 ASSESSMENT ROLL IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 372 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS STATED, THIS IS THE UPDATE TO THE SAP FOR RIVERWOOD RANCH SECTIONS ONE AND TWO.

THIS UPDATE, OF COURSE, INCLUDES THE BUY DOWN OF THE PAID ASSESSMENT, WHICH WAS ISSUED THROUGH THE TRS, AND ON PAGE FOUR, WHICH IS 103 ON THE ON YOUR ATTACHMENTS HERE IT WOULD SHOW THAT TURTLE THAT TOURIST CREDIT EXCUSE ME, WHICH WAS ISSUED AT $31,181.20. AS A REMINDER, THE ORIGINAL SAP PROVIDED FOR SCHEDULE

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SO ON PAGE 103, IN THE PACKET YOU CAN SEE WHERE THOSE MAXIMUM ANNUAL CREDITS WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TOWARD THE RESIDENTS.

SO EACH PROPERTY OWNER WOULD ONLY GET UP TO THE AMOUNT PAID IN.

AS ANDREA POINTED OUT, I THINK IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING THERE WERE NO PARTIAL OR FULL PAYMENTS TOWARD THE I'M SORRY, TOWARD THE ASSESSMENTS FOR THESE PROPERTIES.

SO THIS UPDATE DOES REFLECT THAT.

AND THEN ON PAGES SEVEN THROUGH 12 OF THE ATTACHMENTS, IT'S ALSO NOTED THE INSTALLMENTS BEFORE THE CREDITS AND ALSO THE CREDIT AMOUNT AND THE INSTALLMENT AFTER THE TWO-YEAR ASSESSMENTS ON THOSE PAGES.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SEE THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEEN COLLECTED ON THE PIT.

ALSO, ANDREA HAS NOTED $1,698 HAS BEEN BUILT TO THEM BY P3.

THEY HAVE COLLECTED $322,586, AND THAT WAS ONLY A DELINQUENT AMOUNT.

I THINK OF ONLY $361, WHICH THAT WAS AS OF MAY 1ST.

SO WE SHOULD BE GOOD ON THAT.

THE ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF THE COLLECTIONS IS GOING VERY WELL.

THIS IS A CASH PIT, AS YOU KNOW.

SO THAT IS THE UPDATE.

THE ORDINANCE WOULD APPROVE THIS UPDATE AND THE ASSESSMENT ROLL AS ATTACHED.

THERE'S NO CHANGES THAT CAN BE MADE TO THE PIT AT THIS TIME, RIGHT? CORRECT. THE PIT IS THE PIT.

AND NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING THE ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN FOR THE PIT.

THAT IS TRUE. YES.

STATUTORILY REQUIRED.

AND ACTUALLY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE LAST MEETING, BUT IT WAS OVERLOOKED BECAUSE IT'S GOT TO GET TO THE TAX ASSESSOR LIKE YESTERDAY.

COUNCIL WE GET TO DO THIS FOR LIKE 29 MORE YEARS? YEP. 29 MORE YEARS.

YES, SIR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240910015.

SECOND. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTEN.

A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

I AM NUMBER 16.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE SUBDIVISION.

EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE WITHIN THE ROSEWOOD THREE SUBDIVISION.

[16. Discussion and possible action on the subdivision emergency access gate within the Rosewood III Subdivision (Rosewood Ln. at E. Henderson Rd.). ]

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE WERE HOPING TO GIVE YOU JUST A QUICK UPDATE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE ACCESS GATE AT ROSEWOOD THREE.

WE WANTED TO JUST UPDATE YOU THAT PUBLIC WORKS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL BE HOSTING A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS AFTER NOTIFYING THEM OF THE REQUEST TO CLOSE THE GATE.

AND WE WANTED TO INVOLVE THEM IN THE PROCESS DUE TO THIS MANIPULATIONS, AS YOU SEE AT HENDERSON.

THE DRIVE ACTUALLY GOES IN WITH THE TAPER.

IN TERMS OF THE RIGHT OF WAY OR THE PASSAGE WIDTH OF ONLY 20FT THERE.

SO WHATEVER THE CLOSURE, OPENING OF THE GATE OR REMOVAL OF THE GATE WOULD PROVIDE, IT MAY BE SOME UNIQUE APPROACH, WHETHER OR NOT IT BE A ONE WAY IN OR OUT.

WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PUBLIC, GET SOME FEEDBACK, AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IN HOPES OF, ON OCTOBER THE 8TH MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL, WITH THE FORMAL DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE GATE REMOVAL.

NOTICE THEY PUT A PRETTY SIZABLE CHUNK OF ROCK OR SOMETHING THERE.

I THINK THE GATE DOESN'T HAVE A LOCK ON IT.

YEAH, I DROVE PAST IT THE OTHER DAY AND I WAS CURIOUS IF WE'D ACTUALLY REMOVED IT.

AND I SAW THERE WAS A BOULDER SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

THE OTHER DAY. I GUESS.

THERE'S NO DOUBT.

SO WE'LL SEND OUT NOTICES FOR SEPTEMBER THE 26TH FOR POSSIBLE QUORUM, JUST IN CASE ANYONE YOU WANT TO ATTEND THE MEETING.

AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE THAT ON ZOOM FOR THOSE THAT CANNOT BE IN THE ROOM.

YEAH, I FORGOT WHO BROUGHT IT UP, BUT I THOUGHT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS ACTUALLY MY NAME.

BUT THE THE YOU KNOW, DO NOT ENTER.

AND THAT BEING ONE WAY TO EXIT, WAS IT? THAT WAS THAT YOU WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.

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IT'S NOT AS THE FULL WIDTH.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO AFFECT THE RESIDENTS SAYING THAT THEY COULDN'T DRIVE BOTH WAYS DOWN THE STREET, BUT IT'S ONE WAY ENTRANCE.

IT'S NOT A ONE WAY TRAVEL.

IT'S DIFFERENT. YES.

ENTER ONLY.

RIGHT. YEAH.

NOT AN EXIT. IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO AT ONE POINT TO, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY, THE STREET BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND THEN SOMEBODY, ONE OF US SAID, WELL, I THINK IT WAS CECIL SAID, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE IT A DO NOT ENTER? AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH. EXIT ONLY I GUESS.

BUT YEAH. OKAY.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ON THAT ONE.

OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO GUESS WHAT? WE'RE THERE. COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ANYTHING? NOTHING.

[COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL]

SHOOT. YEAH.

OH, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS AS A POSSIBLE BUDGET AMENDMENT, BUT WHAT? I DON'T THINK WE INCLUDED THE BRINGING BACK THE ANGLETON UNIVERSITY FOR $6,000.

YEAH, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, TOO WHEN SHE MADE THE COMMENT.

YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK THE BUDGET STUFF NEXT MEETING.

WELL, THAT'S WHY YOU ASKED.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YEP. YOU KNOW, IT'S INCLUDE THAT FOR DISCUSSION.

YEAH. IF THE IF THE PRICE TAG IS ONLY $6,000.

I KNOW IT'S TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

COULD BE JUST 4000.

THEY ONLY SPENT 2000 THIS YEAR.

NOT EVEN 2000.

OKAY. WELL, WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT CONTINUING THAT PROGRAM.

YOU BET. AS LONG AS AS I THINK COUNCILMAN ROBERT STATED, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THERE'S I GUESS SOME DESIRE PEOPLE ARE ATTENDING IF THERE'S NO INTEREST AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY OR A VERY LOW INTEREST, IT'S PROBABLY NOT A COST EFFECTIVE MEASURE.

I THINK THE ISSUE BEFORE WAS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

THERE WAS PEOPLE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS THAT WANTED TO APPLY.

BUT. WELL, WE'VE WE'VE OPENED AND ADVERTISED TO YOU IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS OWNER, BUT YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY, BUT YOU HAVE A BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

YEAH. AGAIN THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO WE WANT TO ADD EMPLOYEES.

SO I THINK WE'LL GET THE NUMBERS.

YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT AS A MODEL, I GUESS NOT TO GET TOO FAR OFF INTO IT, BUT IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, IF THERE'S A MEAL, YOU COULD CHARGE THEM A $5 FLAT RATE OR SOMETHING TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PAYING TAXES. YEAH, WE'VE HAD REQUESTS IN THE PAST.

IT'S USUALLY WE'VE BEEN FULL OR FULLER WHEN THOSE REQUESTS.

IT'S JUST A THOUGHT, JUST THE WEIGHT OF THE COST.

YOU KNOW, IF IN THEORY WE'RE USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO FUND IT AND THEN YOU COULD PAY YOUR WAY IN THE SENSE THAT FOR A FLAT FEE OR REDUCED RATE OR SOMETHING.

SO SINCE DIANA LEFT, MARTHA IS TAKING OVER THE PROGRAM.

SO AGAIN, WE'LL COME BACK AND UPDATE YOU AND, YOU KNOW, INTEGRATE SUGGESTIONS AND EXECUTE THE PROGRAM.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? HEARING NOTHING. WE WILL ADJOURN AT TEN, 17 AND 24 SECONDS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.