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[00:00:03]

AT 6:00. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED AS WE DO.

[DECLARATION OF A QUORUM AND CALL TO ORDER]

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.

THOSE LISTENING ONLINE AS WELL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY REQUESTS TO ADDRESS US ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA OR THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, THERE'S A FORM IN THE BACK BY THE DOOR.

IF YOU FILL THAT OUT AND HAND IT TO OUR CITY SECRETARY, SHE'LL PUT YOU ON THE AT THE PODIUM FOR A FEW MINUTES.

AND SO FAR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

IF YOU ARE IN ATTENDANCE, PLEASE RISE AND STAND FOR THE PLEDGE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU AGAIN THAT WE CAN CALL ON YOU AT ANY DIDN'T.

DID YOU HEAR THAT? YOU LOVE US.

YOU'RE CONCERNED. FATHER.

WE ASK YOU TONIGHT FOR YOUR WISDOM, GUIDANCE, HELP IN EACH DECISION THAT'S MADE HERE TONIGHT.

FATHER, WE CONTINUE TO THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU BESTOW ON OUR CITY.

THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE.

AND, FATHER, JUST CONTINUE TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, FOR YOUR PROTECTION FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AND KEEP US IN YOUR WILL.

IN CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

THANK YOU. SO, AS OF NOW, NO CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

[1. Presentation of the National Night Out in Texas proclamation.]

JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING, THE ON THE AGENDA, WE ARE GOING TO SKIP AROUND A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT.

SO FOLLOWING ALONG BE PATIENT.

GOING ON TO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS.

I'VE NUMBER ONE, PRESENTATION OF THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN TEXAS PROCLAMATION AND ITEM NUMBER TWO CEREMONIAL PRESENTATION OF THE SEPTEMBER 2024 KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL YARD OF THE MONTH AND BUSINESS OF THE MONTH.

COUNCIL, WILL YOU PLEASE GO TO THE FRONT? PAGE. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROCLAMATION.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YOU STAND RIGHT UP THERE. OH YEAH.

IT'S A LOT TO READ. WHEREAS THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TOWN WATCH IS SPONSORING AN ANNUAL COMMUNITY BUILDING CAMPAIGN ENTITLED NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ON OCTOBER 1ST THAT PROMOTES POLICE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AND NEIGHBORHOOD CAMARADERIE.

AND WHEREAS 3040 FIRST ANNUAL NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROVIDES A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANGLETON TO JOIN FORCES WITH 38 MILLION NEIGHBORS IN 17,000 COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION AND STATE IN PROMOTING COOPERATIVE POLICE COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS.

AND WHEREAS, ANGLETON POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES A VITAL ROLE IN ASSISTING BRAZORIA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE THROUGH JOINT CRIME AND DRUG VIOLENCE PREVENTION EFFORTS IN ANGLETON, AND IS SUPPORTING NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN 2024 LOCALLY.

AND WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT ALL CITIZENS OF ANGLETON BE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND THE IMPACT THAT THEIR PARTICIPATION CAN HAVE ON REDUCING CRIME, DRUGS AND VIOLENCE IN ANGLETON.

AND WHEREAS CITY OF ANGLETON ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO COME TOGETHER TO MEET AND GREET LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS AT BLOCK PARTIES ACROSS ANGLETON TO BUILD A PARTNERSHIP FOR THE ENRICHMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN WRIGHT, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF ANGLETON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 AS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN TEXAS. PROCLAIM THIS 24TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2024.

RIGHT. HERE.

YOU GET A PICTURE. YES, PLEASE.

A LITTLE BIT, YEAH.

OKAY. ONE. TWO.

THREE. THANK YOU.

YAY! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS STEVE ANGLETON.

[2. Ceremonial Presentation of the September 2024 Keep Angleton Beautiful Yard of the Month and Business of the Month.]

BEAUTIFUL WITH THE ART OF THE MONTH AND BUSINESS OF THE MONTH.

OKAY, GREAT. SORRY.

I'M DRESSED LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO COUNCIL WITH YOUR HAT.

OKAY. BRADY, QUICK! IS THIS ON? YES.

OKAY. IS THIS.

IT'S A LONG WORD.

SO. AND WHEN I WAS DOING WHEN WE DID OUR NOMINATED AND I WAS IN THE HEARST BUILDING, THE INNER MEDICS AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

CENTRAL BRAZORIA COUNTY BUSINESS PARK.

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I MADE YOU MYSELF.

SO THIS IS BRADY AND BRADY.

WE JUST WANT TO SAY BEHALF OF MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THE CITIZENS KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL.

IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.

YOU KEEP IT SO GROOMED. AND IT'S A WONDERFUL GATEWAY INTO OUR CITY.

AND SO WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. AND WE'LL GET YOU A PICTURE.

YES, MA'AM. AND I STAND BY YOU.

PLEASE COME BACK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. I LOVE ALL THE STUFF YOU BROUGHT IN THAT BUILDING.

YES. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU.

YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRADY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS RHONDA GRAY AND HER HUSBAND, WILLIAM HAVE THEIR BEAUTIFUL HOME ON SOUTH HAMPTON.

AND IT'S JUST GORGEOUS.

AND WE REALLY WHEN WE PEOPLE NOMINATE YARD OF THE MONTH AND BUSINESS OF THE MONTH, YOU NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED.

BECAUSE Y'ALL DO. WE LIKE TO GET IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THEIR OWN AND NOT HIRING A COMPANY.

SO BEHALF OF MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, THE CITIZENS AND KEEP HAMILTON BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

Y'ALL HAVE TO ONLY SEE US ONE MORE MONTH AND THEY'RE A GOOD CHOICE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN GO BACK.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT.

ALL THE WORK ON YOUR YARD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. IT DOES SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION NEXT, BUT WE ARE SKIPPING THAT FOR A MOMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO CONSENT AGENDA FIRST ITEM NUMBER FIVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY TO ASSIST THE CITY OF

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ANGLETON WITH CONSTRUCTION, IMPROVEMENT, MAINTENANCE AND OR REPAIR OF A STREET OR ALLEY LOCATED WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,175, OR 30,175FT² OF LAND KNOWN AS DICKIE AND HAZEL STREET.

RIGHT OF WAY ANGLETON WEST EDITION, CITY OF ANGLETON, BRAZORIA COUNTY, TEXAS, FOR $15,000 WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THE DOWNED TREES ARE ADDRESSED BEFORE CLOSING.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE ANGLETON FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO PERFORM THE FIELD TO BOOT.

CAMPAIGN TO RAISE MONEY FOR MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY.

ITEM NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED STREETS FOR NEW SOLAR LIGHT INSTALLATION.

ITEM NUMBER.

WELL, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY THIS ONE.

ITEM NUMBER TEN DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR BIDS SUBMITTED FOR THE REMODEL OF THE CITY HALL ANNEX.

BUT THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST TO MOVE THAT TO REGULAR AGENDA.

SO WHOEVER DOES THE MOTIONS MAKE SURE THAT GETS PUT IN.

THEN ITEM NUMBER 11 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A REQUEST SUBMITTED BY ELLEN EBY ON BEHALF OF PEACH STREET FARMERS MARKET, TO OBTAIN A PERMIT EXTENSION FOR THE CLOSURE OF THE 200 BLOCK OF EAST EAST PEACH STREET ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2024 UNTIL 4 P.M.

COUNCIL. DID I MISS NUMBER SEVEN? NUMBER SEVEN IS BEING REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.

OKAY. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER TEN. COUNCILMAN.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIELS.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER TEN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS CALL FOR THE VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER TEN.

[10. Discussion and possible action for bids submitted for the remodel of the City Hall Annex.]

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION FOR BIDS SUBMITTED FOR THE REMODEL OF THE CITY HALL ANNEX.

YOU'RE UP. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WILL TALK TO YOU GUYS. ASK ME QUESTIONS, OR I JUST GO OVER THIS FIELD.

SO WHY DON'T YOU, JOHN? WHY DON'T YOU GIVE A HISTORY? WE WENT OUT FOR BID.

WE BOUGHT ALL THAT STUFF.

OKAY. SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE TOOK OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY AS IS BACK IN MAY OF 2023.

WE GOT POWER BACK IN THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER 23RD, WITH POWER BEING RESTORED INTO SOME.

WE RAN INTO SOME COMPLICATIONS LIGHT FIXTURES, SMOKING LIGHT FIXTURES.

ONCE WE GOT POWER UNDER CONTROL, WE STARTED WORKING ON A LEAKY ROOF.

ONCE UNDER CONTROL, WE STARTED WORKING ON THE TEN ACRES WE HAVE AT THE AT THE FACILITIES.

WE THEN WENT OUT FOR RFP.

WE GOT OUR BIDS, WE GRADED THE BIDS AND HERE WE ARE TODAY.

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SO I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS THE FUNDING FOR IT.

I KNOW THAT WE WENT OVER THE MONEY ALLOTTED WAS 300,000.

HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR THE EXTRA? I WOULD HAVE TO ASK. FILLING UP.

AS OF THE END OF AUGUST, WE HAVE $7,800,000 LEFT TO THAT KO ISSUE.

THERE'S YOU COULD CHOOSE TO USE THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR THE OVERAGE, OR WE COULD TRY TO COME UP WITH IT IN THE REGULAR BUDGET, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE I WOULD SAY FACE FUND BALANCE.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, OUR FUND BALANCE IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO GO RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S YOUR CHOICES, RIGHT? THAT I KNOW OF RIGHT NOW.

I COULD MAYBE FIND IT IN ANOTHER FUND, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH WHICH BID YOU GO WITH.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT'S GOT TO COME OUT OF THE DEBT.

THE DEBT ISSUANCE? YES, SIR.

CAN YOU GIVE ME THAT NUMBER AGAIN? 7 MILLION.

WHAT? 7,808,000.

WHAT DID WE SPEND THE OTHER WELL? THE PURCHASE OF THE BUILDING.

SO I THINK THE BOTTOM WAS $10 MILLION.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND WE SAID 7 MILLION ISH FOR THE FOR THE K-MAC.

CORRECT. ORIGINAL OK.

ORIGINAL THREE STORY. K-MAC.

CORRECT. WHICH THAT WAS KIND OF THE BID.

AND WE SCALED THAT DOWN.

WE BOUGHT PROSPERITY BANK FOR $2.5 MILLION.

RIGHT. SO WE'RE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY SPENT $2.5 MILLION ISH PLUS THE WE HAD TO SPEND MONEY FOR THE ELECTRICAL AND AND THE THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

WE ALSO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STATION THREE BUILDING WAS IN THAT BOND.

WHAT WAS IT, 1.51? IT WAS 500.

500,000? 500,000.

THE BIDS CAME IN BETWEEN 900 AND 1.2.

SO WE REJECTED THE BIDS.

ALSO IN THAT BOND IS FOR ROAD PROJECTS, WHICH AGAIN, Y'ALL'S GUIDANCE SAID WE DO THE K-MAC FIRST AND SEE WHAT'S LEFT AND THEN GO AFTER ROAD PROJECTS AND THE FIRE STATION.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE FOLLOWING DIRECTION TO SAY, HERE WE ARE.

WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO? SO HOW MUCH IS A K-MAC? HOW MUCH IS A LOT? WELL, WE THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS $4.1 MILLION.

OKAY. BUT THAT WAS LIKE A YEAR OR SO AGO.

WE JUST APPROVED THE CONTRACT, RIGHT? TWO WEEKS AGO. AND THEY'LL BE BACK IN JANUARY FOR REVISED ESTIMATES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO ARE WE SAYING THE ONLY THING WE'VE APPLIED SO FAR IS JUST THE PURCHASE OF THE BUILDING TO THE DEBT SERVICE? WE'VE ALSO PURCHASED THAT USE THAT DEBT SERVICE TO PAY FOR SOME PORTABLE GENERATORS FOR THE I THINK WATER OR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

WE SPEND $189,000 ON THAT.

THAT WAS THE TRAILER WITH THE GENERATOR ON IT FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

THAT WAS PART OF THAT BOND.

OKAY. WE'VE SPENT ALMOST $95,000 ON THE EHMCKE GETTING THE OLD BUILDING TORN DOWN.

IN ARCHITECTURE FEES, THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND WE SPENT 46,000 ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOING THE DESIGN AND THE WORK THAT THE ARCHITECT DID.

SO ALL THOSE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP TO 7.7 MILLION? NO. THAT'S MY CONCERN.

IT'S SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO 7.2.

7.3. WELL, YOU'VE GOT 2.6 MILLION THAT WE SPENT ON THE OUT OF THE BOND ON THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET ON THE ANNEX.

CORRECT. SO I'M SAYING IT ADDS UP MORE ISSUANCE, RIGHT? YES. IT WAS $10 DOLLARS.

SO YOU GAVE ME A NUMBER OF 7.7 MILLION.

RIGHT? 7.8 MILLION.

IS THAT WHAT YOU GOT LEFT? BUT WE CAN'T. IF WE SPENT 2.6 MILLION ALONE ON THE BUILDING, WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED $763,000 IN INTEREST SINCE WE RECEIVED THAT MONEY. OKAY. HOW LONG DO WE HAVE BEFORE IT BECOMES AN ALBATROSS? BASICALLY. SO WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY YEARS THAT WE CAN COLLECT THAT INTEREST.

FIVE YEARS? I THINK SO.

OKAY. AND WE'RE ON WHAT? YEAR? THREE. YEAR FOUR.

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YEAR THREE. THREE I THINK BECAUSE WE GOT THE MONEY IN 22.

RIGHT. OKAY.

OKAY. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

IF ANY OVERAGE COMES OUT, IT'S GOT TO GO AGAINST THAT DEBT SERVICE, WHICH IS GOING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND ON ROADS.

BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUILDING IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY THAT MUCH CHEAPER.

AND, WELL, I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO BE MORE.

THE IDEA WOULD BE NET.

DO WE SAVE A LITTLE MONEY FROM WHERE WE ORIGINALLY PROJECTED TO BE ON THE KMART? I THINK WE DO. SO I THINK IN THE END.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A NUMBER YET, THOUGH.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

I THINK WE'RE BELOW 7 MILLION THOUGH ON THAT.

WELL, IT'S GOT TO BE 7 MILLION MINUS THE 2.6.

THAT'S GOT TO BE THE NET.

THE TOTAL IS. YES.

HOW HAVE WE BEEN FUNDING ALL THE RENOVATIONS SO FAR? THE WHAT WE'VE DONE HAS BEEN COMING OUT OF GENERAL FUND.

OKAY. CAN YOU GIVE US A BREAKDOWN? OF. SO THERE'S THREE BIDS.

WE HAVE ALL THREE OF THE SCORING SHEETS HERE.

SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS, I HAD A MANDATORY CONSTRUCTION MEETING WITH ALL BIDDERS.

THREE OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY OR TONIGHT.

WE DID A WALKTHROUGH, GAVE THEM A SCOPE OF WORK.

AND THIS IS THE. THOSE ARE THE BIDS THEY GAVE US, AND THEN WE GRADED THEM.

ALL THREE BIDS IN HERE.

I ALSO PRINTED THEM OUT ALSO.

SEE THE AMOUNT? I JUST SEE THE SCORING SHEETS.

DO YOU HAVE IT? NO, I DO NOT.

THEY WERE MEN, BUT THEY WERE IN A SEPARATE.

FEMALE. RIGHT.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU JUST ANNOUNCED THE BIDS FOR US.

THAT OPEN. OPEN THE THREE BIDS.

CAN YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE THEM WHAT THEY WERE? THEY'RE OPEN AND READ. THEY WERE OPENED AND READ PUBLICLY, WEREN'T THEY? WE DID. IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM WITH ON A PANEL.

PARDON ME. WE DID IT IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM ON A PANEL.

WERE THE. WAS THIS AN OPEN PUBLIC BID OR NOT? I'M NOT SURE ON THAT ONE.

YES, YES, IT'S AN RFP.

PARDON ME? IT WAS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

THAT'S ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT.

I MEAN, AFTER THAT, THAT'S WHATEVER THEY DID.

BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

JOHN, CAN YOU READ THE THREE BIDS FOR US, PLEASE? I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT ONE OF THE STEWART BROTHERS THE OTHER ONE'S CONSTRUCTION MASTERS.

THE OTHER ONE'S RURAL SERVICES.

HOW MUCH FOR EACH? I WANT TO SAY CONSTRUCTION MASTERS WAS 4.203.0307.

AND THEN RURAL SERVICES.

I WANT TO SAY 280 SOMETHING.

OKAY.

AND RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSAL IS TO AWARD TO CONSTRUCTION MASTERS AT 422,000.

YES, MA'AM. THE PANEL SUGGESTED.

IN ROYAL WAS THE LOWEST BIDDER.

STUART WAS SECOND.

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ARE ALL THREE REPUTABLE COMPANIES? YES. ALL GOOD. ALL THREE OF THOSE CHECKS ON ALL THREE? YES. ALL THREE HAVE DONE WORK IN THE CITY, ACTUALLY.

SO I SAW THE NUMBERS IN THE EMAIL.

YEAH, YOU CAN FIND IT.

WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THIS? I WOULD SAY ABOUT 6 TO 8 MONTHS FROM THE FROM TOMORROW.

OR I CAN ASK THEM RIGHT THERE.

HOW LONG. HOW LONG ARE THEY TAKING TO GET IN? I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT I'M WITH CONSTRUCTION MASTERS.

MASTER'S ESTIMATED JOBS WOULD TAKE 4 TO 5 MONTHS AND WE CAN GET STARTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WE'VE GOT SOME MORE STUFF IN THE WORKS.

WHO ELSE WE GOT? I WANT THE ROLE SERVICE AND I'M ABOUT THE SAME WITH HIM.

WE GET STARTED IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

OKAY. MAYBE TWO.

RONNIE STEWART WITH STEWART BUILDERS RIGHT ALONG WITH HIM.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TEN, 14 DAYS TO MOBILIZE.

GOT IT. WE'LL JUST KEEP MAKING IT HARDER FOR US.

YOU'RE ALL 36. COUNCIL.

I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THIS TIME WE HAVE SCORING SHEETS FROM EVERYBODY.

WE'RE IN THE PAST. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT WITH NAMES, SO.

THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT.

I'M A I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS VOTE FOR PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL REASONS.

SO. I HAVE ALL THREE OF YOU DONE JOBS? KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE BEING.

WHAT'S BEING ASKED? YES, SIR. YES. I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE FIRST HALF OF THE UNITS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I'VE REMODELED THE FIRE STATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, WHICH STATION? ONE. THREE.

AND A LITTLE BIT IN TWO.

I KNOW, MR. STUART, HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING WITH THE CITY? YES, SIR. WHEN THE SUDDEN STORM IN MARCH, I CAME IN.

AND THE OFFICES, ALL THE OFFICES THAT FLOODED IN THAT LAST STORM AND THE TWO STOPS AT THE END.

YOU HAD YOUR BACK IN IT IN FIVE DAYS.

WELL, WE SPECIALIZE IN REMODELING.

THAT'S HOW I GOT MY START.

WE'RE GOING TO CAMP OUT.

I'LL HAVE A FULL TIME SUPERINTENDENT ON THE JOB TO PUSH IT.

WELL, I GUESS I NEED STAFF TO TELL ME.

YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS, WE GO WITH LOW BIDDER.

YES. BUT IN THIS CASE, WE DIDN'T.

THE BEST SUITED FOR THE CITY.

I'LL TAKE THAT ONE.

GO FOR IT. SO WE DID IT PURSUANT TO THE BEST VALUE ANALYSIS PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 252 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

OKAY. SO WHEN YOU DO THE BEST VALUE, IT ALLOWS YOU TO ADD ADDITIONAL CRITERIA ON TOP OF JUST THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER.

SO THE CRITERIA IS SET OUT IN THE RFP AND IT SHOULD BE ON THE SCORING SHEETS.

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SO THAT ADDITIONAL CRITERIA SHOULD HELP YOU MAKE A DECISION IN, IN ADDITION TO JUST THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE NUMBER.

IT'S JUST LIKE YOU ASKED, YOU KNOW, WE WANT IT DONE IN THREE MONTHS.

AND SOMEONE SAID I COULD DO IT IN THREE MONTHS.

THAT COULD BE YOUR CRITERIA.

I KNOW, THAT'S WHY I ASKED. AND THEY ALL SAID THE SAME THING.

I KNOW, BUT BUT BUT THAT'S THE BEST.

THAT'S THE BEST VALUE OPTION VERSUS JUST A LITTLE BETTER, RIGHT.

WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A VERY.

I'VE BEEN IN COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION SINCE I GRADUATED COLLEGE, RETIRED AND WAS GOING TO PLAY DOING THIS, BUT IT GREW.

WE HAVE A SCOPE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A VERY WELL NAILED DOWN SCOPE.

WE DON'T HAVE A SET OF PLANS TO BUILD BY.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US TO GET IT DONE.

AND IF WE CAN GET THAT HELP AND MAKE SURE WE GET ANSWERS.

AND IS THIS OFFICE GOING HERE? WHAT KIND OF LIGHT HERE. WHAT COLOR? WHAT CARPET. WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

IF I HAD THAT, WE COULD GET IT.

AND I'M WILLING TO HELP DO THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

SO BACK TO BEST VALUE.

IF YOU JUST DID THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, YOU WOULD BE MAKING A DECISION BASED ON WHAT? WHAT IS A RESPONSIBLE BID.

THE NUMBERS.

BUT BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT THIS WAY, IT ALLOWS YOU TO ANALYZE WITH THE CRITERIA AND ASK THE QUESTIONS YOU JUST ASKED.

IT'S A GOOD THING YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN ACCOUNTANT ON THE EVALUATION BECAUSE I GO NUMBERS.

SO THAT'S AN THAT'S AN THE STATEMENTS I'VE JUST HEARD ARE INTERESTING BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU'RE PROVIDING A BETTER VALUE, YOU'VE GOT A HIGHER PRICE.

AND YOU ARE ALL QUOTING OFF OF THE SAME WORK SCOPE, HOW DID YOU WIND UP WITH BETTER VALUE AT A HIGHER COST? BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT.

I HAVE NO OVERHEAD OR VERY LITTLE OVERHEAD IS WHY MY COSTS ARE LOWER.

I DON'T HAVE A FLEET OF COMPANY TRUCKS.

MY EMPLOYEES DRIVE THEIR PERSONAL TRUCK.

I DON'T KNOW IF IF YOU CAUGHT WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.

YEAH. YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A QUESTION TO THE STAFF OF THE SCOPE THAT WAS PROVIDED.

YEAH. SO THE CARPET SELECTION THAT WAS USED IN THE BUILDING PREVIOUS.

I ASSUME WE WERE GOING WITH THE SAME.

YEAH. IT'S ALL IN SCOPE.

PAINT COLOR, CARPET COLOR.

EVERYTHING'S IN THERE. SO SO THAT'S THAT'S MY QUESTION IS IF SOMEBODY IS PROVIDING A BETTER VALUE AT A HIGHER COST.

DID THEY DID THEY NOT DID THEY NOT BID THE PROJECT OFF THE SAME WORK SCOPE.

DID THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT SCOPE.

IS THIS NOT APPLES TO APPLES? AND IF IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN HOW CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? LIKE IT WAS ALL OFF THE SAME SCOPE? OKAY, SO HOW DO YOU HAVE MORE VALUE AT A AT A HIGHER PRICE? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOUR EVALUATORS.

WHOEVER EVALUATED.

WHO WAS ON YOUR COMMITTEE. WHO WAS ON YOUR.

THEY HAVE THE EVALUATION SHEETS IN FRONT OF THEM.

WE HAVE ALL THE NAMES. OKAY.

BECAUSE IF EVERYTHING'S APPLES TO APPLES, THE PRICES, THERE SHOULDN'T BE A LOT OF DELTA BETWEEN THE COSTS.

I MEAN, I COULD SEE THERE BEING SOME.

IT'S JUST A WIDE RANGE OF OF COST.

YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, I'M COMING IN AT A QUARTER OF A MILLION AND SOMEBODY ELSE IS 300,000, AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE THAT THE VALUE IS BETTER FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, AND MAYBE THAT'S TIME FRAME OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

I WILL SAY FROM THIS POINT THAT WE DID NOT HAVE DETAILED DRAWINGS, ENGINEER DRAWINGS FOR THEM TO BID ON.

OKAY. SO THEY'RE MORE OR LESS FINGER POINTING.

OUR WORK AT DOW. WE DO THE SAME THING, BUT IT ALWAYS HIRE FINGER POINTING BECAUSE IN CASE THE SCOPE INCREASES.

SO IF YOU HAD AN ENGINEERING DRAWING I THINK THE PROCESS WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSER.

OKAY. YOU KNOW.

I MEAN, I CAN SEE THAT THERE'S ALSO DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE STAFF, THE EVALUATORS AS WELL.

I MEAN, SO IT'S NOT CONSISTENT, BUT COUNCIL, I DON'T MAKE THE MOTION.

SO I'LL DEFER TO YOU ALL TO MAKE A MOTION.

DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE BY WHICH WE HAVE TO AWARD THIS CONTRACT?

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NO. AND IN FACT, THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE RFP THAT SAYS THE CITY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REVOKE IT, TO PARCEL IT OUT, DO IT IN SECTIONS, DIVIDE IT INTO MULTIPLE ANY OF THE PROPOSALS.

I HAVE THE WHOLE FAIL SAFE THING IN THERE TO GIVE YOU THE BACK DOOR TO GO OUT.

IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT THE BACK DOOR AND NOT MAKE A DECISION AND REDO IT.

YOU CAN DO THAT.

THERE'S ALSO A PROVISION IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT IF THERE'S ANY PROPOSAL THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY IMBALANCED, EITHER IN EXCESS OR BELOW THE REASONABLE COST ANALYSIS, WHICH IS HARD FOR YOU TO DO THAT COST ANALYSIS, APPARENTLY, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE DRAWINGS, THAT YOU CAN REJECT THAT ONE AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.

SO THERE'S YOU'VE GOT LEEWAY.

AND NUMBERS.

IT SEEMS, YOU KNOW, YOU GAVE A SCOPE OF WORK.

YES. BUT IT'S NOT A FINALIZED SCOPE, RIGHT? IT'S MORE OF A GENERAL SCOPE.

IT WENT ROOM BY ROOM OR CARPET? PAINT. FINISH DOOR HERE.

WINDOW THERE. IT WAS PRETTY DETAILED.

JUST FOLLOWING ALONG WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN BOOTH IS SAYING.

WE REJECTED.

AND WE PROVIDED A VERY DETAILED.

AND EVERYONE SHARPEN THEIR PENCILS, YOU KNOW, DOES IT GET BETTER? AND I THINK THAT'S I THINK THE THAT WAS MORE WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO WAS WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF, OF THIS BROAD, YOU KNOW COST ANALYSIS BY THE BY THE BIDDING CONTRACTORS WERE THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I HAVE I HAVE TROUBLE PROPOSING CERTAIN THINGS TO MY CUSTOMERS WHEN I DON'T HAVE A DETAILED SCOPE OF SUPPLY.

LAST QUESTION. HOW DID WE FIGURE OUT WHO THE EVALUATORS WERE GOING TO BE? I'M NOT SURE ON THAT ONE. YOU HAVE A POLICY.

THE CITY MANAGER ADOPTED A POLICY AT SOME POINT.

IT IT RUNS THROUGH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

SO I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T PICK THE BOARD.

NORMALLY, THE EVALUATORS ARE CHOSEN BASED ON THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION.

IF IT'S A WE'LL HAVE A STAFF MEMBER AND THEIR JOB IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR HAVING DONE.

BUT WE WON'T ASK THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK.

THEY WON'T BE ON THE BOARD.

WE TRY TO INCLUDE 1 TO 2 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, DEPENDING ON WHO'S AVAILABLE.

AND THEN WE WILL, YOU KNOW, ON THE WORK.

WE'VE REACHED OUT TO VOLUNTEER FIREMEN ON FIRE DEPARTMENT BUILDING.

JUST WE TRY TO GET A BROAD RANGE OF INTERESTS AND ABILITIES IN OUR EVALUATIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. I DON'T SENSE A FEEL GOOD ON THIS COUNCIL ABOUT AWARDING IT TO ANYBODY TONIGHT.

I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF PUZZLEMENT.

IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WHAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT PROJECT SCOPE CREEP.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN HERE.

SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE WILL NEED A MOTION TO REJECT ALL BIDS.

DO WE HAVE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO POSTPONE THIS? IF WE CAN DISCUSS IT IN-HOUSE A LITTLE BIT MORE? WELL, PURSUANT TO THE RFP, YOU CAN JUST MAKE A MOTION TO TEMPORARILY ABANDON THE DECISION OR ABANDON FOR NOW.

THE WORDING IN THE RFP IS ABANDONED.

TEMPORARILY ABANDON THE PROJECT.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DELAY THE DECISION BASED ON GETTING MORE INFORMATION.

IF YOU'RE NOT READY TO REJECT ALL OF THEM, AND YOU NEED TIME TO REANALYZE.

OR IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TONIGHT TO MAKE THE DECISION, YOU CAN POSTPONE THE DECISION.

IF YOU'RE NOT READY TO SAY WE WANT TO REJECT ALL OF THE RESPONSES TO THE RFP, OR YOU CAN JUST SAY YOU ARE AND JUST MAKE, YOU KNOW, DO IT AGAIN.

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AND SINCE YOU ALREADY HAVE AN RFP, YOU CAN DO IT RATHER QUICKLY.

YOU JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR ORDINANCE AND PUBLISH.

CONTRACTORS HAVE PUT THE EFFORT IN TO DO IT.

YEAH I AGREE.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS TO THE THREE BIDDERS.

HOW GOOD ARE YOUR QUOTES FOR 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS, 90 DAYS? WE DON'T WANT TO STRAIN.

I WANT TO SAY AT LEAST 90 DAYS.

I MEAN, I THINK, WELL, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO INTERRUPT YOU ON THAT BECAUSE WE PUT IN THE RFP THAT THE PROPOSAL IS IRREVOCABLE UNTIL THE EARLIER OF THE EXPIRATION OF 180 DAYS FROM THE SUBMITTAL DEADLINE, OR UNTIL AN AGREEMENT HAS BEEN AWARDED.

THIS MIDDLE DEADLINE WAS JULY, SO IT WAS 180 DAYS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUMPING INTO A TIME FENCE.

SO. OKAY.

SO. COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE DECISION FOR AT A LATER DATE.

ABANDONED IS NOT THE WORD YOU HAVE TO USE PURSUANT TO THE ABANDONED.

ABANDONED THE PROJECT FOR NOW.

AND I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT IF THERE'S INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LACKING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE MISSING INFORMATION.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO BAN.

DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE DETAILED PROJECT TO.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON IT.

SO YOU'RE NOT READY TO REJECT.

I'M NOT READY TO REJECT.

WE JUST WANT TO DELAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL NEEDS TO REVIEW THE THE SCOPE OF WORK A LITTLE MORE AND GO OVER.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH FOR ABANDONMENT OF THE OF THE DECISION FOR MORE INFORMATION.

SCOPE WOULD BE ONE OF THEM.

FULL SCOPE AND UNDERSTANDING THE BID PACKAGES, I GUESS.

SO, COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. ALL THOSE ABSTAINED.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. WHY NOT? SO FIVE ZERO TO ABANDON WITH ONE ABSTENTION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH US ON THAT.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER.

FOUR. LET'S SEE.

ITEM NUMBER 14.

[14. Discussion and possible action on Chapter 17 – Parks and Recreation, Article 3. – Use of Public Parks, Section 17-38. – Permits and reservations and Section 17-75. - Merchandising and advertising.]

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON CHAPTER 17.

PARKS AND RECREATION. ARTICLE THREE USE OF PUBLIC PARKS.

SECTION 17 TO 38 PERMITS AND RESERVATIONS.

AND SECTION 1775 MERCHANDIZING AND ADVERTISING.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, WE DID HAVE WELL, WE FREQUENTLY HAVE REQUESTS FOR INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS TO UTILIZE OUR PARKS FOR A NUMBER OF PURPOSES, INCLUDING FUNDRAISERS, EVENTS, BUSINESS, ETC..

ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, WE DID HAVE A REQUEST FROM MAYOR WRIGHT TO ADD THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA SO THAT WE COULD SPECIFICALLY DISCUSS PARK USAGE RELATED TO ANGLETON ISD PROJECT GRADUATION.

THERE WAS A CORRESPONDENCE THAT INITIATED THIS REQUEST, AND THAT WAS A FACEBOOK POST ON TALK OF ANGLETON. SO YOU HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION ENCLOSED IN YOUR PACKET FOR SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.

AND WE ALSO ATTACH ABOUT THREE EMAILS OF DIFFERENT CORRESPONDENCE.

WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH INDIVIDUAL THIS WAS.

AND AGAIN WE HAVE AND RECEIVE SEVERAL REQUESTS ON A ROUTINE BASIS.

SO WE INCLUDED THE THREE MOST RECENT REQUESTS THAT WE HAD BOTH AT OUR PARKS AND OUR RECREATION FACILITY.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN YOUR PACKET IT IS INCLUDE SECTION 1738 PERMITS AND RESERVATIONS, AS WELL AS SECTION 1775 REGARDING MERCHANDIZING AND ADVERTISING WITHIN OUR PARKS AND WHAT WE TYPICALLY CONVEY TO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ASKING TO UTILIZE PARKS FOR FUNDRAISERS, AND WHAT THAT PROCESS TYPICALLY ENTAILS IS THAT WE FIRST WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REQUEST IS.

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SO YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET THAT WE HAD A REQUEST FOR A BAKE SALE FUNDRAISER FOR SPANISH HONOR SOCIETY FOR AISD AT ONE OF OUR LOCAL PARKS. WHEN IT'S DONE, WHEN THE REQUEST IS AT ONE OF OUR SPORTS COMPLEXES LIKE BATES PARK, FREEDOM PARK AND BIJOU PARK SOCCER COMPLEX, WE ALWAYS WORK WITH OUR ASSOCIATIONS BECAUSE WE ARE IN AN AGREEMENT, CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO SELL CONCESSIONS, AND SO WE TRY NOT TO CONFLICT WITH ANY CONCESSION SALES THAT ARE ALREADY GOING ON.

SO WE REFER THEM TO THOSE ENTITIES AND PROVIDE THEM THAT CONTACT INFORMATION.

OFTENTIMES, THOSE ENTITIES DO ALLOW THE INDIVIDUALS TO COME OUT ACTUALLY DURING GAME DAYS.

AND SO IT'S A IT'S A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP AND BENEFITS BOTH PARTIES.

SOMETIMES THEY MAY ASK FOR A PERCENTAGE OF THAT.

WE REALLY DON'T GET INVOLVED IN IN THE DETAILS OF HOW THAT HAS WORKED OUT.

BUT OTHERWISE WE TYPICALLY DO DENY THOSE REQUESTS JUST BECAUSE IN OUR AS YOU CAN SEE IN OUR SPECIFICALLY MERCHANDIZING AND ADVERTISING, WE DON'T WANT TO DETRACT FROM THE PUBLIC PARK USAGE.

AGAIN, YOU HAVE NOT ONLY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WANTING TO HOST FUNDRAISERS, BUT YOU HAVE BUSINESSES REQUESTING TO USE OUR PARKS.

AND SO THE THE REQUESTS ARE PRETTY FREQUENT.

AND SO WE HAVE BEEN PRETTY STRICT ABOUT WHAT WE WILL AND WILL NOT ALLOW AND HOW WE WORK WITH THOSE ENTITIES, WHICH IS TYPICALLY THROUGH OUR ASSOCIATIONS.

SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW YOU'D LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD AND HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS.

I FIRST HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET TO CHRISTIE.

SAY YOUR LAST NAME FOR ME.

BEHRENDS MARINS.

IF YOU'LL COME TO THE PODIUM.

AND SINCE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT REALLY DROVE THIS, AND I GOT ABOUT 6 OR 7 FACEBOOK MESSAGES IN, LIKE, AN HOUR.

THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

SO. YES. SO. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS CHRISTIE MARINS.

I AM THE PRESIDENT FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW OF ANGLETON PROJECT GRADUATION.

PROJECT GRADUATION IS A 500 AND 1C3 ORGANIZATION.

OUR PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE A FUN, SAFE ALTERNATIVE FOR OUR SENIORS TO CELEBRATE GRADUATION WITH THEIR CLASSMATES.

ON GRADUATION NIGHT, DURING THE NIGHT, WE HAVE WHAT WE CAN CALL A LOCK IN FOR THESE SENIORS.

AFTER THEY GRADUATE, THEY GO HOME, THEY HAVE DINNER WITH THEIR FAMILIES, AND THEN THEY COME AND THEY'RE LOCKED IN FOR THE NIGHT SO THAT THEY'RE NOT OUT PARTYING AND DRINKING AND DRIVING, HAVING WRECKS AND ULTIMATELY DYING ON GRADUATION NIGHT.

DURING THIS EVENT, WE HAVE WE HAVE GAMES SET UP.

WE RENT.

WE DO RENT THE FACILITY AT THE JUNIOR HIGH, AND WE HAVE GAMES SET UP FOR THEM.

WE HAVE FOOD BROUGHT IN AND DONATED.

WE HAVE PRIZES.

ANYWHERE FROM APPLE GIFT CARDS TO APPLE LAPTOPS TO FISHING AND CAMPING EQUIPMENT, TO ANYTHING FOR THEIR DORMS THAT THEY MIGHT NEED FOR THEIR DORMS. BUT WE TRY TO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF PRIZES SO THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THESE KIDS ARE WORKING FOR THESE FUNDRAISERS.

AND THEY'RE EARNING CAT BUCKS, WHICH THEY USE AT PROJECT GRADUATION TO BID ON THESE PRIZES.

SO WE TRY TO HAVE ENOUGH PRIZES THAT MOST EVERYONE WALKS OUT OF THERE WITH SOMETHING.

AND WE DO PROVIDE THEM WITH GIFT BAGS, THOSE THAT RSVP THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE.

LAST YEAR WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 250 KIDS THAT CAME.

AND SO WE HAVE 497 SENIORS THIS YEAR.

AND SO WE DID PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT GIFT BAGS THAT HAD GIFT CARDS FOR AMAZON AND, YOU KNOW, FAST FOOD PLACES, BECAUSE WHENEVER THEY GO TO SCHOOL, THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO EAT.

TRUST ME, I HAVE MULTIPLE SENIORS OR MULTIPLE GRADUATES, BUT THEY THEY DO GET AWAY FROM HOME AND THEN THEY WANT TO GO OUT AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, MCDONALD'S OR CANE'S OR WHATEVER.

SO IN THEIR GIFT BAGS, WE PROVIDE THEM WITH A T SHIRT.

WE PROVIDE THEM WITH GIFT CARDS, JUST WHATEVER WE CAN DONATE TOWARDS THOSE GIFT BAGS FOR THE YEAR.

SO ALL OF THE SENIORS WALK AWAY.

AS LONG AS THEY RSVP, THEY WALK AWAY WITH SOMETHING.

BUT THEN THOSE ONES, THE SENIORS THAT HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THEY HAVE CAT BUCKS THAT THEY CAN BID ON THESE PRIZES. SO THAT'S THAT'S OUR GOAL, IS TO PROVIDE AS MANY SENIORS WITH PRIZES THAT THEY CAN

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UTILIZE TO GO AND USE FOR, YOU KNOW, COLLEGE OR WHATEVER THEY HAPPEN TO BE DOING.

BUT OUR GOAL LAST YEAR, WE RAISED ABOUT $60,000 THIS YEAR, AND THAT WAS DOWN FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.

THE YEAR BEFORE, I THINK THEY RAISED AROUND 100,000 THIS YEAR.

OUR GOAL IS TO RAISE $100,000, AND IN DOING SUCH WE HAVE VARIOUS FUNDRAISERS.

WE DO BAKE SALES, WHICH ARE ALL DONATIONS.

I MEAN, ALL OF THE BAKED GOODS ARE DONATED AND ALL OF THE THE PEOPLE THAT COME AND PURCHASE THE BAKED GOODS, THEY'RE ALL PURCHASED WITH DONATIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRICES SET, BUT THE KIDS, THE SENIORS EARN CAT BUCKS BASED ON WHAT THEY DONATE AND THE HOURS THAT THEY'VE WORKED.

WE ALSO HAVE WE DO THE FAIR CONCESSION TICKET SALES, SO YOU'LL SEE US WORKING NONSTOP DURING THE FAIR, SELLING THOSE CONCESSION STAND TICKETS.

SO AND, AND THE PARENTS AND THE SENIORS WORK TOWARDS IT'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CAP BUCKS PER HOUR THAT THEY GET FOR THAT.

SO THIS YEAR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO, WE WANTED TO OPEN UP AND HAVE A CHILI COOK OFF AND CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT, JUST SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT WE KIND OF LIKE TO KEEP IT DIFFERENT AND FUN FOR THESE KIDS BECAUSE THEY GET TIRED OF BAKE SALES EVERY WEEK.

BUT IN ORDER TO DO THIS, WE NEEDED A LOCATION.

THE SCHOOL DOES NOT ALLOW US TO USE THEIR FACILITIES, THEIR PROPERTY AT ALL, FOR ANYTHING.

SO THAT'S WHEN WE TURN TO THE CITY BECAUSE WE WERE LIKE, WELL, THE NEXT BEST OPTION WOULD BE THE CITY PARK.

IT WAS QUITE IT WAS QUITE A SHOCK THAT I REALIZED THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE TURNED DOWN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M TO ME, THE CITY PARK IS THERE FOR ALL TAXPAYERS.

AND THESE ARE ALL TAXPAYERS.

THESE KIDS ARE ALL OVER THE CITY.

I MEAN, THESE ARE 497 SENIORS FROM ANGLETON.

AND ALL OF THESE PARENTS OR MOST OF THESE PARENTS ARE TAXPAYERS.

SO I WAS LIKE, WHY? WHY CAN WE NOT USE THE CITY PARKS? AND THEN WE WERE TOLD THAT FUND RAISERS ARE LIMITED TO CONCESSION STANDS, AND THAT IS FOR SPORTS ONLY.

AND SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL THINGS THAT WE HAD ASKED FOR WAS FOR A GARAGE SALE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A LIABILITY ISSUE.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN THAT UP TO, YOU KNOW, JUST ANY GARAGE SALE OR WHATEVER.

SO I KIND OF UNDERSTOOD THAT.

BUT WHENEVER WE ASKED FOR THIS CHILI COOKOFF AND THE CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT, I WAS LIKE, NO, WAIT A MINUTE.

THESE SENIORS ALSO A LOT OF THEM PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS IN IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO YOU HAVE EVERY SINGLE SPORT REPRESENTED.

AND WITH ALL KINDS OF SENIORS GRADUATING AND USING, YOU KNOW, WE ARE I MEAN MY DAUGHTER SWIMS. SO WE ARE SWIMMERS.

BUT I'VE GOT PEOPLE ON THE BOARD THAT PLAY BASEBALL.

I GOT PEOPLE ON THE BOARD THAT PLAY FOOTBALL.

I'VE GOT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY DO EVERYTHING RIGHT.

SO THEN I WAS LIKE, WELL, NOW WAIT, NOW HOW IS THAT FAIR? AND SO THEN I WAS LIKE, WELL, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW US TO USE THE CITY PARKS, WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO LAKE JACKSON AND DANBURY, BOTH OF WHICH OFFERED US AND HAVE WELCOMED US WITH OPEN ARMS. BUT THEN I GO BACK TO BUT NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR SUPPORT GROUP.

OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT IS GOING TO HAVE TO TRAVEL TO A DIFFERENT CITY.

YES. DANBURY IS NOT VERY FAR FROM ANGLETON HIGH SCHOOL, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN OPTION.

BUT THEY'RE STILL OUR COMMUNITY IS HAVING TO TRANSFER, GO TO A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY OR A DIFFERENT CITY TO UTILIZE THEIR PARKS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS JUST DOESN'T SEEM FAIR.

THESE KIDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS PARKS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED FOR BATES PARK.

WE ASKED FOR FREEDOM PARK.

YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU KNOW, THE THE PROBLEM IS.

BUT THERE'S SUPPOSEDLY THIS RULE THAT Y'ALL HAVE THAT IS FOR ALL FUNDRAISERS.

NONE OF THEM ARE TO BE ACCEPTED EXCEPT FOR THESE SPORTS.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO COME AND THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO ME AND LISTEN TO, YOU KNOW,

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MY PART OF IT.

AND YES, I DID POST ON FACEBOOK, TALK ABOUT ANGLETON, AND I GOT A LOT OF RESPONSES.

SO AND THEN MR. BRIGHT DID REACH OUT TO ME AND WAS LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.

SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH ME AND AND AT LEAST OPENING UP A LINE OF COMMUNICATION.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES.

AT THE BEGINNING, THE VERY, THE VERY FIRST THINGS YOU SAID WAS THAT YOU TALKED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEY TOLD YOU NO, SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES NOT ALLOW US TO USE THEIR FACILITIES. OKAY.

IN FACT, FOR PROGRAMS, WE HAVE TO RENT THE FACILITIES FOR THE JUNIOR HIGH.

DID YOU EVER APPROACH THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT THIS SAME ISSUE? I HAVE APPROACHED THE PRINCIPAL.

OKAY. BUT, YOU KNOW. SO YOU DIDN'T GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD? I DID NOT GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

YEAH. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? WE MIGHT AS WE DISCUSS, BUT THANK YOU.

SO I REALIZE WHILE WE HAD.

I THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE OF A GROWING PAIN OF THE CITY.

I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN SITTING ON COUNCIL WHERE WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FROM A NOT FOR PROFIT LIKE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SOMEBODY FROM THE SCHOOL TO WANT TO USE THE PARKS IN THIS MANNER.

AT LEAST I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY SEVERAL FOLKS THAT HAVE APPROACHED US WITH NONPROFIT AGENCIES THAT ARE WANTING TO BE A FOOD DISTRIBUTION SITE.

SO WHEN WE HAVE REQUESTS LIKE THAT, WHAT WE ASK THEM TO DO, BECAUSE USUALLY THESE ARE PREPACKAGED MEALS ALREADY THAT THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO SELL, LIKE A BARBECUE PLATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO WHAT WE RECOMMEND, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE ORDINANCE AND TRY TO DEFRAY ANY CONFLICT WITH, AGAIN, THE PARK USER ENJOYMENT, WE SAY TRY TO DO ELECTRONIC SALES AND USE THE PARK AS A DRIVE THROUGH PICKUP.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I THINK IT WAS DURING COVID, THE ANGLETON ROTARY CLUB, INSTEAD OF HAVING THEIR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.

SO THEY SOLD ALL THEIR TICKETS IN ADVANCE AND THE PARK WAS USED STRICTLY FOR A PICKUP SITE.

I REMEMBER THAT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT TOO, WAS IF IF THEY WERE TO USE IT IN THAT MANNER.

OH, ABSOLUTELY. I, I THINK IF IT.

OUR PARKS ARE HUGE AND LET'S BE HONEST, BATES PARK WHERE THE SOFTBALL AREA IS, THAT'S ONE SECTION OF THAT PARK.

YOU HAVE THAT WHOLE OTHER SIDE OF BATES PARK THAT COULD BE UTILIZED.

SAME THING FOR FREEDOM PARK.

I THINK WHEN WE MAKE THESE CONTRACTS WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS, IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WE'RE LIMITING OURSELVES TO JUST THE ENTIRE CARTE BLANCHE, THE WHOLE PARK. FREEDOM IS BIG ENOUGH TO, ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT MOST LITTLE LEAGUE IS PLAYED ON THE FIELDS OVER THERE.

NOBODY'S OVER ON THE LEFT SIDE OVER THERE.

PRETTY MUCH JUST THE PLAYGROUND.

AND IN THAT AREA.

I THINK WE HAVE A WAY OF WORKING AROUND THIS.

I ALSO THINK THAT WHEN OUR, OUR SCHOOL ORGANIZATIONS ARE WANTING TO USE THE PARKS, THAT'S TRYING TO PROMOTE THE KIDS TO GO TO THE PARKS, AND TO ME, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT FOR US IS TRYING TO GET CIVIC INVOLVEMENT IN OUR PARKS.

I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, THE NEW NOT FOR PROFIT THAT JUST GOT THEIR TAX EXEMPTION FORM LAST WEEK THAT WANTS TO JUST GO AND MAKE MONEY OFF THE PARK.

THAT'S I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS INTENDED FOR, BUT FOR YOUTH AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE AN EXCEPTION IN THOSE CASES.

SURE. AND IF COUNCIL WANTS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION, WE ARE, I THINK I NOTED IN THE AGENDA SUMMARY THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON REVISING THE USE OF PUBLIC PARKS ORDINANCE.

IT'S PRETTY OLD.

YEAH. AND SO WE'RE GOING SECTION BY SECTION IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND BE CHANGED.

WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE ARE THE RULES THAT WE GO TO WHEN WE'RE ASKED A SLEW OF QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS.

SO WE'RE WE'RE JUST GOING BASED OFF OF WHAT WE HAD.

YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE IN THE SPECIFIC ORDINANCE I DID INCLUDE ANOTHER ONE.

ONE OF THE REQUESTS WAS TO USE BATES PAVILION SPECIFICALLY.

AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, HISTORICALLY WE HAVE PROHIBITED THAT.

AND SO AGAIN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THAT WAS DENIED, BECAUSE IT WAS SPECIFIC USE OF A PAVILION, WHICH OUR ORDINANCE PROHIBITS US FROM DOING.

SO, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE INTEND TO CHANGE ANYWAYS, IN THE USE OF PUBLIC PARKS, BECAUSE WE WANT THAT TO BE A RENTABLE FACILITY.

I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE MADE THE DECISION TO NOT RENT OUT PART OF BATES PARK PAVILION, AND MAYBE THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE USE AT THE TIME IT

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WAS. IT HAPPENED AT THE SAME TIME AS THE REC CENTER COMING ONLINE, AND THE CONCERN WAS, OKAY IF YOU RENT IT OUT THE THE GYM AREA OVER THERE THAT YOU WOULD PROHIBIT IF YOU RENTED SOMETHING OVER HERE WAS RENTED THAT THERE'D BE NO PLACE FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE BASKETBALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO AT THE TIME, THAT WAS THAT WAS THE GENESIS OF THE DECISION THERE, THAT NO ONE WOULD RENT THAT BIG PAVILION.

RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE WELCOME TO USE IT.

I'M NOT AGAINST YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE THAT USAGE ANYMORE AT THE REC CENTER AS WE DID WHEN WE FIRST OPENED.

RIGHT. THEY WERE TRYING TO RENT IT.

WE HAD ACTUALLY A LIMIT OF ONCE A MONTH, I BELIEVE IT MIGHT STILL BE.

THEY'RE LIMITING THE REC CENTER GYM RENTAL FOR ONCE A MONTH.

SO THAT'S HOW THAT CAME ABOUT.

BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEMS IF WE WANT TO RENT OUT THE PAVILION, AS LONG AS WE'RE WE'RE NOT DOING IT EVERY WEEKEND AND PREVENTING.

WELL, AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT, BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS.

AGAIN, WHEN WE WERE THIS WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

WE WERE THINKING, WHICH ONE? YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHICH WHICH ITEM THIS WAS IN REGARDS TO, BECAUSE EVEN THAT SAME WEEK WE HAD RECEIVED SO MANY REQUESTS.

AND SO JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT WE WE WOULD RECOMMEND AS A DEPARTMENT THAT THERE BE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT FUNDRAISERS WHERE WE CAN VERIFY THE 500 AND 1C3 OR LOCAL NONPROFITS, WHATEVER YOU ALL DESIGNATE.

WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT BEING DEFINED, THOUGH, BECAUSE WE AGAIN, WE HAVE NUMEROUS WE HAVE COMPANIES, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS CLAIMING THAT IT'S A BENEFIT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A NONPROFIT STAFF.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE TRY TO ADDRESS.

AND AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE WHERE ALL OF THESE AMENITIES ARE UTILIZED TO WHERE OUR CITIZENRY AND OUR TAXPAYERS CAN NO LONGER USE THE AMENITIES.

SO WE JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF OF WHATEVER IS DECIDED.

BUT WE WE ARE TOTALLY IN FAVOR.

AND WE DO HAVE LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT NOTES SPECIFICALLY MERCHANDIZING AND ADVERTISING THAT THE EXCEPTION IN ITEM A EXCEPTION IS HERE MADE AS TO ANY REGULATION OF THE DIRECTOR.

SO I HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND ABILITY.

WE JUST HAVE REFRAINED FROM DOING THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD BE OPENING A WHOLE CAN OF WORMS. SO WITHOUT GUIDANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL ON EXPLICITLY WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DO, WE HAVE NOT OPENED THAT DOOR.

NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

SUPERINTENDENT MADE POLICY TONIGHT.

NO, BUT THIS IS JUST ME SPEAKING AS A CITIZEN AND A SCHOOL DISTRICT TAXPAYER FOR THE PAST.

FILL IN THE BLANK. IT REALLY BOTHERS ME THAT I'M EXCLUDED FROM WALKING ON A 75 YEAR OLD TRACK OVER HERE.

LET'S PUT IT THAT. THAT'S SEC.

THE FIRST HOSPITAL HERE IN TOWN.

AND I DON'T GET TO GO WALK THAT TRACK.

OR ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS OR THE CITY OWNS? IT JUST REALLY DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT THAT I PAID FOR IT, BUT I CAN'T GET TO USE IT BECAUSE OF A RULE.

WELL, I'M OPEN TO.

I'M OPEN TO WORKING WITH FOLKS THAT ARE ESPECIALLY YOUTH PEOPLE.

I'VE HAD FOUR KIDS GRADUATE FROM ANGLETON HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY ALL WENT TO PROJECT GRADUATION.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, MAN.

WELL, FOR ME, I'M.

I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT THE ONE PROVIDING A SOLUTION TO THIS AND THAT IT'S BEING PUT ON THE CITY TO DO SO.

THEY SHOULD THEY SHOULD BE THE ONES STEPPING UP TO PROVIDE THE SOLUTION.

I DON'T CARE WHAT THE RULES ARE, BECAUSE THEN WE'RE HAVING TO TIPTOE AROUND ORDINANCE AND AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE SET IN PLACE FOR PRETTY GOOD REASON.

SO YEAH. GO AHEAD.

WHAT IS YOUR TIME IN OFFICE FOR REVISING THOSE RULES? SO WE JUST INITIATED WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING.

GOSH, JASON, WAS THAT LAST WEEK? WEEK BEFORE. SO WE MEET ON A WEEKLY BASIS, BUT WE ARE GOING LINE BY LINE.

YOU'RE. I ANTICIPATE IT TAKING MINIMALLY SIX MONTHS, IF NOT LONGER.

I MEAN, JUDITH HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US ON WE HAD SOME PROPOSED CHANGES AND ORGANIZATION AND FORMATTING STRUCTURE THAT WE PRESENTED WHEN WE OPENED LAKESIDE PARK.

WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND SO REALLY, WE HOPE TO BRING ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS TASK FORCE, WHICH INCLUDES MYSELF, STUART CROUCH, JASON O'MARA JESSICA NORRIS AND DAVID HYNEK, WHO BOTH SERVE ON THE PARKS BOARD SO THAT THEY CAN, ON A MONTHLY BASIS, SAY THESE ARE THE REVISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE.

ARE YOU ON BOARD? OKAY.

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LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SECTION.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT METHODICALLY AND QUICKLY.

BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

THANK YOU. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS.

THERE WAS ALSO AN EMAIL IN HERE ABOUT THE SPANISH NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY.

RIGHT. SO AGAIN, WHEN WE WERE FIRST ALERTED THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE PUT ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, WE WERE GOING THROUGH RECENT EMAILS THAT WE HAVE WE HAD ADDRESSED, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEM.

OKAY. SO ARE YOU LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON THAT AS WELL? SO AGAIN, WE GAVE THE SAME GUIDANCE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WE GAVE ALL INQUIRIES AS IT RELATES TO BATES, FREEDOM AND GPC.

WE ENCOURAGE THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO COLLABORATE WITH.

WE DO NOT TURN THEM DOWN.

WE WE GIVE THEM CONTACT INFORMATION TO COLLABORATE WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS, THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE IN AGREEMENT.

AND SO WHAT THEY DO AT THAT POINT, WE DON'T KNOW UNLESS THEY COME BACK TO US AND SAY, HEY, THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS? AND THEN WE START TALKING ABOUT A DRIVE THROUGH DONATION, ETC..

SO TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THAT HAS BEEN RESOLVED, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR CERTAIN.

OKAY. I'M NOT SURE I WOULD FULLY UNDERSTAND, BUT ARE YOU THE ONE WHO'S MAKING THIS DECISION REGARDING WHAT IS AUTHORIZED AND WHAT IS NOT? YES. OKAY.

I BET YOU WANT US TO GIVE YOU GUIDANCE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? RIGHT? I HAVE FOLLOWED FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS TO COLLABORATE WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO DO THINGS LIKE FUNDRAISERS. OR I'VE PROVIDED ALTERNATE SOLUTIONS FOR FOOD FUNDRAISERS LIKE DRIVE THRUS, RATHER THAN ACTUALLY SELLING ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN A PUBLIC PARK AND ADVERTISING SUCH.

SO MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY, I WOULD JUST BE SPECIFICALLY CONVEYED.

I KNOW MISS RUTH IS PROBABLY RIGHT.

WE DON'T PROBABLY WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO POLICY, BUT I'M NOT ONE TO NOT THROW OUT A SUGGESTION.

SO. I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT WHY.

I'M TRYING TO THINK MY REASON WHY WE HAVE THESE RULES IN PLACE.

OKAY. WHY? THERE'S REGULATION.

I MEAN, HOPEFULLY WHEN WE WE DRAFTED THESE, IT WASN'T JUST LIKE, HEY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

LET'S DO THAT. I HOPE THERE'S ACTUALLY A PURPOSE DRIVEN BEHIND IT.

AND SO TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S DRIVEN BEHIND IT I DON'T KNOW, OTHER THAN PERHAPS LIMITED SPACE, USE OF COMPETITION FOR REVENUE SOURCES FROM THE THREE POTENTIAL LEAGUES COMPETING AGAINST WHATEVER.

BUT I'VE BEEN TO THE SOFTBALL AGSA AND AT THEIR STATE TOURNAMENTS. IN THEIR LOCAL TOURNAMENTS.

THEY HAVE ALL SORTS OF VENDORS OUT THERE.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

SO IS THAT JUST THERE WITH THEIR PERMISSION, OR DO THEY THOSE VENDORS COME THROUGH YOU TOO? CORRECT. OKAY.

SO THAT'S ARRANGED BY THE ASSOCIATION.

OKAY. AND THEN WHAT IS.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE THEN IN MY MIND ABOUT THE WHAT'S DIFFERENT BETWEEN THEM PERMITTING SAY AGSA OR I KNOW SOCCER SAME THING THEY'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, SNOW CONE TRUCKS OUT THERE.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, A SNOW CONE TRUCK DOING IT AND PROJECT GRAD DOING IT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO AND I'M GOING TO.

ONE'S A NONPROFIT, ONE'S A FOR PROFIT.

WE ACTUALLY WANT WE WANT FOR PROFITS OUT THERE VERSUS NON-PROFITS.

TURN TO JUDITH. WE RECENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS BENEFITING FROM, FROM CITY FACILITIES AND BUT WE'RE APPARENTLY OKAY WITH IT.

SO BUT BUT SOME OF YOUR FACILITIES ARE, ARE IS DICTATED BY YOUR CONTRACTS WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS.

AND THOSE HAVE BEEN IN PLACE LONG BEFORE YOU OR I.

I'M JUST SAYING THIS JUST SEEMS WEIRD.

IT'S LIKE SOME SORT OF BARRIER TO ENTRY, SOME SORT OF PREVENTION OF COMPETITION.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WOULD BE IN, IN THE I.

THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING BACK AROUND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY IT'S THERE.

WELL AND SO ORDINANCE FROM 1965 RIGHT.

OKAY. SO I WOULD SAY THAT YOU MAYBE ONLY HAVE ONE PARK THEN.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU ONLY HAD ONE PARK, YOU PRETTY MUCH DID COULDN'T RENT IT OUT IN 1965.

SO REALLY I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

IT'S JUST BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR SO LONG, NO ONE'S EVER.

WELL, I MEAN, SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE EITHER FOLLOW A SIMILAR POLICY AS, AS IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW PRIVATE VENDORS TO DO IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T LET NON-PROFITS BUT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT COMPETITION.

I MEAN, I KNOW, AND A FEE.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE LIMITED, RIGHT? THERE'S GOT TO BE WAYS WE CAN GET AROUND THAT.

AND I MEAN, NO OFFENSE TO AGSA OR THE ANGLETON SOCCER.

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I MEAN, THOSE ARE CITY PROPERTIES.

THOSE ARE CITY. THEY DON'T.

MAYOR. THOSE ARE CITY PROPERTIES.

SO IT SEEMS WEIRD THAT AGSA WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL, YOU KNOW, PROJECT GRAD.

NO, I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST SEEMS WEIRD.

I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST A LACK OF CONSISTENCY THERE.

AND SO.

YEAH, I JUST I'M WITH CECIL.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M NOT.

I MEAN, I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE.

ALSO, IS THERE SOMETHING I'M MISSING THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I THOUGHT I WASN'T GOING TO GET TOO MUCH.

ALL I CAN SPEAK TO IS THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS WE HAVE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROBABLY ALSO ADDITIONAL LIABILITY.

THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH EACH OF THESE REQUESTS.

BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD ZUMBA CLASSES OCCUR, SOFTBALL LESSONS OCCUR AT THE AT THE PARKS FOR PROFIT.

I MEAN, PEOPLE WILL AND DO RUN BUSINESSES OUT OF PUBLIC PARKS IF YOU WILL AUTHORIZE THEM TO.

AND SO IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT FOR THE COMMUNITY? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT THE PARKS TO SERVE FOR THE COMMUNITY? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL.

AND SO IF YOU DON'T, THEN THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS IN ITS, IN ITS BOUNDARIES.

AND I'M SURE THERE'S SOME WE CAN PROVIDE.

AGAIN, CECIL IS PROBABLY RIGHT.

WE DON'T PROBABLY NEED TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE SOME GUIDELINES ON THAT.

THERE CAN BE CLEARLY THINGS THAT ARE YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE DIFFERENCE OF INDIVIDUAL LESSON VERSUS A TOURNAMENT.

I MEAN, ONE PERSON UTILIZING A WHOLE PARK VERSUS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, IT I JUST SEEMS SOMETIMES YOU CAN.

WE CAN. I THINK THERE'S SOME LINES WE CAN DRAW, RIGHT? WE CAN OVERTHINK THIS IF WE REALLY WANT TO.

OR WE CAN JUST KIND OF SIMPLIFY IT A LITTLE BIT.

I MEAN, GIVING GUIDANCE TO MEGAN TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, MY OPINION IS IT'S IT'S YOUR DISCRETION RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY PUBLIC POLICY HERE OTHER THAN SAYING IF IF A NOT FOR PROFIT INSIDE THE SCHOOL FOR THE YOUTH RIGHT NOW WANTS TO COME AND USE THE THE FIELDS OR THE PARK AND IT'S NOT IN NOT GOING AGAINST THE CURRENT RENTAL.

SO THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO GO USE A BASEBALL FIELD WHILE THE BASEBALL FIELD IS BEING PLAYED ON OR THE SOFTBALL FIELD.

BUT IF THEY WANT TO USE THE PARK RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON OVER THERE, LET THEM.

THAT'S MY OPINION RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE GET THIS POLICY SET.

BUT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT YOUTH IN THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE I CAN'T HELP AND I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU UP HERE.

I WANT ANSWERS FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL.

ON WHY THEY CAN'T USE THE SCHOOL FACILITIES, BUT I CAN ONLY CONTROL AND WE CAN ONLY CONTROL WHAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER, WHICH IS THE SCHOOL OR THE CITY PROPERTIES.

SO WE CAN ONLY MAKE POLICY ON THAT.

SO TO ME, I MEAN, IT'S A CITIZEN WANTING TO USE THE PARK FOR A NOT FOR PROFIT, FOR YOUTH TO BENEFIT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WE CAN GET INTO THE WHOLE SEMANTICS LATER OF FOR PROFIT AND HOW THAT ALL WORKS AND SHAKES OUT.

BUT TO ME RIGHT NOW IT'S AND AND IF YOU THINK THERE ARE SOME.

BUT I AGREE WITH JOHN, I THE ONLY THING I'LL CAUTION, AND I'M PROBABLY TALKING ON BOTH SIDES OF MY MOUTH IS, IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK THERE IS SOME PRECAUTIONS THAT NEED TO BE PLACED, WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF LIABILITY COVERAGE, I HAVE NO IDEA, DEPENDING ON HOW EXTREME THIS EVENT IS.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT YOU LOCKING IN THE CITY INTO A FUTURE LAWSUIT.

I SHOULD SAY LOCKING WALKING POTENTIALLY INTO A FUTURE LAWSUIT.

BUT BUT I'M SURE THOSE THINGS CAN BE TALKED ABOUT AND RESOLVED, AND I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT.

SO. I MEAN, SO, TODD, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK REAL QUICK? YES. PLEASE. MAKE IT REAL QUICK FOR US, PLEASE.

TODD PATTERSON, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF ANGLETON SOFTBALL, AND WE WERE NEVER WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS UNTIL IT GOT ON FACEBOOK.

AND OF COURSE, WE GET BASHED ON FACEBOOK A LOT, SO JOIN THE CLUB.

HERE'S THE THING IS, IF WE WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROACHED WITH THIS, WE WOULD HAVE SAID YOU CAN FUNDRAISE AT OUR TOURNAMENTS.

I MEAN, THAT'S A SUGGESTION RIGHT THERE.

FUND RAISING, OUR TOURNAMENTS, WE DO IT.

THE PRESIDENT OF ANGLETON OR OF USA SOFTBALL IN THIS AREA IS HERE BECAUSE WE DO A LOT OF FUNDRAISING FOR SCHOLARSHIPS FOR ALL KINDS OF STUFF. EVERY TOURNAMENT IS A FUND RAISER FOR SOMETHING, RIGHT? AND WE HAVE VENDORS COME IN THAT ARE THAT MAKE MONEY, BUT WE GET A PORTION OF THAT TO GO TO SOFTBALL OR WHATEVER WE EARMARK THAT FOR, LIKE THE NEW FENCES, DIRT, THE CHALK, THE GAS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE EXPENSES.

AND THAT'S HOW WE SUBSIDIZE OUR EXPENSES.

BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND FUNDRAISE, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME.

OKAY. AND WE WELCOME THAT BECAUSE LIKE IT IS IT'S THE KIDS ISN'T IT'S ANGLETON.

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AND THAT'S ANGLETON PART.

WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT WITH THE PAVILION.

RIGHT. WE HAVE EVERYTHING INSIDE THE FENCES.

Y'ALL HAVE EVERYTHING OUTSIDE THE FENCES.

SO I JUST DIDN'T.

I JUST WANT TO CLEAR UP OUR NAME BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING BASHED, AND I'M LIKE, WHAT ARE WE? WE DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING. WHAT ARE WE DOING? YEAH. NO PROBLEM. WE'LL GIVE YOU A WAY OUT WE COME FUNDRAISING ALL OUR TOURNAMENTS.

I DIDN'T MENTION SOMEONE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S TYPICALLY OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO COLLABORATE AND WORK WITH.

AND I ALSO HEARD CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT.

SO MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE A COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY, SINCE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN OUR STRATEGIC OR WAS AN OUTCOME OF THE STRATEGIC WORKSHOP.

WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

BUT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD MENTION, YOU TALK ABOUT A RECOMMENDATION IN US AS THE DEPARTMENT AND MYSELF AS THE DIRECTOR, DESIGNATING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE TREAT IT LIKE ANY OTHER RENTAL.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION, IS THERE A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS OR IS THERE NOT AS IT RELATES TO YOUTH 500 AND 1C3 AND LOCAL IS AISD.

I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE JUST LIKE AJSA ANGLETON LITTLE LEAGUE OR EVEN ANGLETON SOCCER CLUB, THEY HAVE A MONETARY BUY IN FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING AS A NONPROFIT AND OUR PUBLIC PARK.

SO WE HAVE TO WE DON'T HAVE TO.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE SOME OWNERSHIP IN IN WHAT IS BEING DONE IN THE PARKS AS IT RELATES TO A RENTAL FEE, A WAIVER.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLEANED UP AFTER THE EVENT ITSELF.

I THINK A DEPOSIT IS NICE.

YEAH. BECAUSE, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU'RE TEXTING I MEAN IT'S OUR RESOURCES POTENTIALLY IF EVERYTHING'S LEFT, YOUR YOUR CREW SHOWS UP OR HECTOR'S CREW SHOWS UP ON MONDAY OR SOMEBODY SHOWS UP ON MONDAY AND HAS TO PICK UP THE MESS.

RIGHT. BUT I, I'D SAY WRITE YOUR POLICY THE WAY YOU'RE DOING IT.

OKAY. DON'T DON'T SLOW THAT PART OF IT DOWN.

SURE. I WOULDN'T WANT TO MUDDY THIS UP RIGHT NOW.

I THINK GETTING A DEPOSIT IS IS ADEQUATE, JUST SO WE CAN KEEP THAT.

BUT IF THEY'RE WANTING TO USE THE PARK AND IT'S A NOT FOR PROFIT LIKE THAT I WOULD SAY NO FEE AT THE MOMENT OTHER THAN THE DEPOSIT.

AND THAT'S MY OPINION.

CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK, LIKE LAKE JACKSON, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE PODIUM.

BOTH DO THE PODIUM.

YEAH. I'M SORRY YOU GOT TO BE ON.

SO WE LET THE CONSTRUCTION GUYS OFF THE HOOK.

LAKE JACKSON AND DANBURY BOTH DO HAVE DEPOSITS, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND.

WE ARE AT 501 C3.

WE DO HAVE LIABILITY.

WE HAVE $2 MILLION LIABILITY POLICY.

SO THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR REQUIREMENTS, REQUIREMENTS OR WHATEVER TO HELP PREVENT ANY KIND OF PROBLEMS. BUT WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE A POLICY.

WE DO HAVE A 503 C3.

AND SO ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED FROM US, WE CAN SUPPLY THAT.

SURE. SO. I MEAN.

DO WE NEED AN OFFICIAL ACTION FOR THIS OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NONPROFITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL.

SCHOOLS. SCHOOLS WITH AC, ACS AND ANGLETON CHRISTIAN SCHOOL FOR USE OF PUBLIC PARKS.

FOR FUNDRAISING.

WITH THE DEPOSIT. WITH DEPOSITS.

DO YOU WANT THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENT? SEE, THAT'S WHERE IT GETS CATCHY.

BECAUSE WHAT IF THE SPANISH HONOR SOCIETY IS IN THERE WRITING THE POLICY NOW? SO WE'RE JUST THIS IS A STOPGAP AT THE MOMENT.

I THINK THE DEPOSIT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR NOW.

OKAY. OKAY. COUNCIL.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL.

A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS FOR GIVING DIRECTION TO THE PARKS DIRECTOR TO MAKE CHOICES ON SCHOOLS, NOT FOR PROFITS.

ORGANIZATIONS USING PUBLIC PARKS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I JUST THANK YOU FOR GETTING IT ON HERE FAST.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP.

AND I'M GLAD WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO CORRECT SOMETHING THAT I THINK WILL HELP US.

ANYBODY ELSE CALL FOR THE VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND THANKS TO THE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION FOR SHOWING UP.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, WE ARE GOING TO JUMP BACK NOW TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

SO COUNCIL WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:15 P.M..

[01:15:04]

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 551, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED THEREIN.

THREE DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. PRESIDING MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, AND DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE PURSUANT TO SECTION 501.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

CITY ATTORNEY. WE WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 716 ZERO SECONDS.

MR. MAYOR, IN THERE.

EVERYBODY'S BACK.

WE'RE ON. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 910 AND 40S AND COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION?

[OPEN SESSION]

YES. I MOVE THAT AS IT RELATES TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THAT WE HAS TO HAVE THAT ITEM RETURNED TO A FUTURE SESSION SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE LOAN MEETING, I THINK IT'S THE SECOND TUESDAY IN NOVEMBER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.

A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER ROBERTS TO BRING ITEM NUMBER FOUR BACK ON THE FIRST MEETING OF NOVEMBER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR ALL YOUR INPUTS.

BACK TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

[12. Discussion and possible action on the election of Mayor Pro-Tem.]

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ELECTION OF MAYOR PRO TEM.

MAKE A MOTION TO KEEP TRAVIS TOWNSEND AS MAYOR PRO TEM.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DANIELS.

SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER ROBERTS TO CONTINUE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM TRAVIS TOWNSEND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.

TRAVIS, THANK YOU FOR SERVING.

APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANYTHING ELSE? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER 13.

[13. Discussion and possible action to elect a director and approve the ballot for the Texas Municipal League Region 14 Director Election.]

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ELECT A DIRECTOR AND APPROVE THE BALLOT FOR THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE REGION 14 DIRECTOR ELECTION.

I MOVED TO NOMINATE MR. JOE ZIMMERMAN AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE PML.

OKAY. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DANIEL TO NOMINATE JOE ZIMMERMAN FROM SUGARLAND AS OUR DIRECTOR.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS CALL FOR THE VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED 1415.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20240924015.

[15. Discussion and possible action to approve Resolution No. 20240924-015 authorizing the execution of an Advance Funding Agreement (AFA) with the Texas Department of Transportation for a Transportation Alternative Set-Aside (TASA) Project.]

AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR A TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE SET ASIDE PROJECT.

HELLO, JOHN. GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL. THE CITY HAS BEEN SELECTED BY TXDOT FOR GRANT.

8020 SHARE FOR THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG 288 B.

AS PART OF THAT WE HAVE TO GET INTO A ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT OR WHAT THEY'LL REFER TO AS AN AFE, WHERE IT WILL SET THE LIMITS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TXDOT ON THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION.

THE FIRST RESOLUTION CAME IN AND HAD THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THE OVERRUNS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND I WORKED WITH THEM.

AND IT CHANGED NOW TO A TEXT THAT IS 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THE OVERRUNS.

SO THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

WE'RE GLAD WE GOT THAT DONE.

SO AS PART OF THE AFA, THERE HAS TO BE THIS RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE CITY STATING THAT THEY GIVE, THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN ENTERING INTO THE AFA, AND THEY GIVE THE POWER TO THE CITY MAYOR TO ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT WITH IT.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS.

THIS IS A STANDARD TEMPLATE THAT THEY HAVE.

JUDITH LOOKED OVER IT. THERE'S NO FATAL FLAWS IN IT.

THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE FOR ALL THEIR THEIR CLIENTS.

WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM.

SO WITH THAT IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR GRANT FOR THE DOWNTOWN SIDEWALKS,

[01:20:07]

DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS ON 288 B I RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY APPROVE THE RESOLUTION GIVING THE AUTHORITY TO THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO THE AFA. BUT BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION, WE JUST NEED TO POINT OUT THAT THE RESOLUTION THAT IS NOT NUMBERED, THAT'S ATTACHED TO JOHN'S AGENDA ITEM IS THE CORRECT ONE.

SO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS MEETING AT SOME POINT, THAT THE CORRECT RESOLUTION WILL BE NUMBERED AFTER AFTER YOU APPROVE, OR WE CAN PUT THAT NUMBER ON THE OTHER ONE ON THIS ONE, CAN'T WE? IT'S NOT THE 0924015.

WE CAN USE THE SAME NUMBER, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR THEY'RE JUST SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TEXT THAT ONE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WORDING.

SO THE ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE NUMBER ON TOP IS THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT THE MAYOR WILL BE SIGNING.

AND THE DIFFERENCE IS INSTEAD OF SAYING THE CITY COUNCIL OF ANGLETON, IT'S THE GOVERNING BODY OF ANGLETON.

SO AND THEY MADE THAT CHANGE.

THEY WANTED TO CHANGE.

THEY MADE THAT CHANGE AFTER I SUBMITTED THE AGENDA.

OKAY, GOOD. COUNCIL DO I HAVE ACTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND.

SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL FOR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION.

FOR THE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE TECH STOCK FOR THE TESLA PROJECT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. TOM. I'M GLAD TO FINALLY SEE THIS ONE COME UP.

ITEM NUMBER 16. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240924.

[16. Discussion and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20240924-016 regarding the possible determination of a substandard building located at 504 Farrer Street within the City of Angleton, Texas, and approval to hold the public hearing on October 8, 2024.]

DASH 016 REGARDING THE POSSIBLE DETERMINATION OF A SUBSTANDARD BUILDING LOCATED AT 504 FERRER STREET WITHIN THE CITY OF ANGLETON, TEXAS, AND APPROVAL TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 8TH, 2024.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY FOR 504 FAIR STREET.

IT'S A SITUATION IN WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO EXPEDITE THROUGH THE PROPER SYSTEM AND CHANNELS, AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH WILL SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING.

THE OWNER HAS BEEN NOTIFIED APPROPRIATELY.

AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS AGREED TO IT.

PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT BEEN RESPONSIVE.

WE SENT SEVERAL NOTICES BY CERTIFIED MAIL.

REGULAR MAIL.

AS BEST POSSIBLE, THIS WILL ALLOW US TO ALSO NOTIFY ANY LIEN HOLDERS.

AND AFTER YOU TAKE THIS ACTION, HAVE.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL WORK THROUGH THE COURT ORDER PROCESS AND FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES IN WHICH WE HAVE ENFORCED.

I THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THIS WAS A SUBSTANDARD BUILDING BEFORE.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING PRIOR TO MY COMING HERE.

YEAH, IT WENT THROUGH THAT PROCEDURE.

HOWEVER, WE NEVER GOT THROUGH THE COURT ORDER PROCESS PROPERLY.

SO WE HAD TO START AGAIN, START ANEW, AND WE HOPE TO GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS A THIS IS OWNED BY A SLUMLORD.

SO I DID SOME DIGGING AND THERE'S PROPERTIES ALL OVER THAT.

NOBODY CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THIS GUY.

I BELIEVE THE, THE NEIGHBORS HOUSE.

WAS THIS THE ONE WHERE THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.

THE TREE FELL ON THEIR HOUSE? IT WAS ON. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS FAIR OR EVANS, BUT THAT WAS EVANS.

YES, IT WAS EVANS. OKAY.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS IS FINALLY MOVING FORWARD.

THE LADY THAT CAME TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND EXPRESSED HER ISSUES WITH THIS AS WELL.

COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ACTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 409.

24 016 TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 6TH 884504 PARRISH STREET SECOND THAT I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. OTIS. THANK YOU. GLAD TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD.

ITEM 17.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240924017.

[17. Discussion and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20240924-017 amending the utility rates for Fiscal Year 2024-2025.]

AMENDING THE UTILITY RATES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025.

[01:25:15]

WOW. EXCUSE ME.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU NOW IS TO INCREASE UTILITY RATES BASED ON THE RATE INCREASE WE RECEIVED FROM BWA. BASED ON 5000 GALLONS A MONTH, THE AVERAGE BILL IS GOING TO GO UP $8.13. IF YOU USE LESS, IT WILL GO UP LESS.

BUT AGAIN, AND WE'RE THIS IS JUST PASSING ALONG THE RATE INCREASE.

THIS $8.13 IS JUST FOR THE BWA SIDE NOT FOR OUR SIDE.

THAT'S JUST FOR THEM.

AND IT'S THE WATER BUT NOT THE SEWER.

CORRECT. RIGHT.

WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE SEWER RATES ARE GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME.

YES, SIR.

ARE WE LIMITED BY ORDINANCE TO HOW MUCH MORE WE CAN CHARGE THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS THAT VOW TO GET WATER WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY ONE, ONE AND A QUARTER TIMES FOR OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS? I HAVE SEEN OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY CHARGE DOUBLE IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD.

QUESTION, SIR, ARE WE LIMITED TO 1.25%.

IF WE SET SOMETHING WITHIN OUR GUIDELINES THAT THAT'S THE MAX WE CAN CHARGE.

NOT THAT I'VE SEEN ANYWHERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FINISH THIS YEAR? I'M TRYING TO PULL UP THE FILE RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE I THINK CHRIS, WHEN WE TALKED WAS A MONTH OR TWO AGO, WAS WATER USAGE WAS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

SO YOU WERE EXPECTING TO BE DOWN SLIGHTLY? I MEAN, BASED ON WE'VE ALMOST GOTTEN RAIN EVERY WEEK SINCE THE HURRICANE.

I WOULD PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO WATER THEIR LAWNS OR LIMIT IT AS LIMITED.

HECTOR HOW HOW HAVE WATERLINE BREAKS BEEN THIS YEAR? I MEAN, WE'RE ON THE AGENDA ITEM.

MIGHT AS WELL JUST GET AN UPDATE. IT'S BEEN A REALLY WET SUMMER.

SPRING? I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD ANY ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY THIS YEAR, SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD YEAR FOR US.

SO MOSTLY REPLACEMENTS OF EXISTING IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE AGE OF THESE PIPES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LEAKS NO MATTER WHAT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BREAKS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE JUST BEEN EXPERIENCING IS JUST NATURAL.

I SAY NATURAL BREAKS, BUT JUST DEGRADATION OF THE PIPES OVER TIME.

THOSE ARE THE LEAKS WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING, WHICH IS TYPICAL.

WE'RE NOT HAVING ANYTHING WEATHER RELATED THAT'S CAUSING MORE LEAKS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS THE FACT THAT IF REVENUES ARE DOWN, BUT YOU ALSO HAD CONTINGENCIES IN THERE TO TO REPAIR SOME OF THESE PIPES.

NOT MUCH, BUT YOU HAD SOME IN THERE FOR WATERLINE BREAKS? YES. YOU THINK THE LESS REVENUE WILL STILL BE OFFSET WITH THE LOWER COST EXPENSES THIS YEAR? I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME SO, YES.

BEING THAT THE LAST DROUGHT WE HAD, WE HAD, I BELIEVE, A WHAT, $303,000? WILL WE SPEND EXTRA? YES.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY A BENEFIT FOR US.

OKAY. BUT YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, WE COMMITTED $1.2 MILLION TO THE TXDOT WATER AND SEWER STUFF, AND THAT'S EXCEEDS OUR BUDGET.

OKAY. THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE.

WE WERE FIGURING TO COME OUT OF DEBT, OUT OF FUND BALANCE FOR THAT.

RIGHT. AND THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING WELL ON THE WATER.

I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE TO WATCH AND SEE THE TIMING AND STUFF.

I MEAN, AGAIN, THEY'VE STARTED SOME OF THE WORK, BUT THEY HAVEN'T STARTED THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL WORK.

AND SO IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMELINE AND.

EXCUSE ME. BASED ON CALCULATIONS I'VE DONE.

OUR REVENUES FOR THE WATER AND SEWER FUND ARE GOING TO BE UP ABOUT $200,000 OVER BUDGET.

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REVENUE WILL. YES, SIR.

WHAT ABOUT EXPENSE? EXPENSES? OR.

EXCUSE ME? EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE UP ABOUT A MILLION.

EXCLUDING THE.

EXCLUDING THIS PROJECT WITH TEX-DOT.

IS THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE? RIGHT? NO, SIR.

SO YOUR EXPENSES ARE UP ABOUT A MILLION? YES. OVER. COMPARED TO BUDGET? YES. I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT IT HAS NO BEARING ON TONIGHT'S ACTIONS.

BUT JUST WHAT I CAN GET YOU THAT.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

DO I HAVE ACTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 409.

24 017.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

FOR APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE UTILITY RATES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO 2025.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS A BWA REPORT WATER AUTHORITY INCREASE ON THEIR PART THAT IS FUNDED, THAT IS TO FUND THE RESERVOIR, INCREASE CAPACITY AND NOT US.

NOTED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'M LAUGHING BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE THE SAME NOTE.

YES, IT'S IN BOLD LETTERS.

VERY CLEAR HERE.

MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. WE NEED ACTION FROM THE CITY STAFF TO PUT ON THE CITY CITY WEBSITE.

RATES ARE CHANGING IN BIG BOLD RED BECAUSE BWA IS INCREASING THIS.

WE WILL. THANK YOU.

WHAT'S THE COMBINATION OF THAT AND THE COST OF ALL THIS STUFF? RIGHT. CLEAN THE WATER UP.

WE HAVE OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.

WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE, BUT.

NOT A DECISION WE MADE.

FULL DISCLOSURE IS NOT ALL THAT REASONABLE.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT? THE. THERE'S 1.25% FOR FURNISHING WATER TO CITIZENS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S BY ORDINANCE.

THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL.

SO, CECIL, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT SECTION 2672 OF YOUR CITY CODE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 1965 AND LAST REVISED IN 2021, STATES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE 1.25%.

YOU CAN YOU CAN CHANGE THAT ORDINANCE.

YOU CAN GO UP.

OF COURSE, YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THAT IF YOU GO UP TOO HIGH, THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN PETITION THE PUC AND SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOT ARBITRARY RATES, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY PLAN TO DO THAT.

LET HIM GO, BUT YOU CAN GO HIGHER.

YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO REVISE YOUR ORDINANCE.

DO YOU WANT TO BRING THAT TO. DO YOU WANT THAT BROUGHT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR DO YOU NEED TO STUDY IT? OKAY. I MEAN, THE BIGGEST USER IS THE COUNTY.

THE JAIL. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER 18.

[18. Discussion and possible action on current Hurricane Beryl debris status.]

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CURRENT HURRICANE BERYL DEBRIS STATUS.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

I BRING TO YOU TALK ABOUT THE DEBRIS CURRENT SITUATION AS IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP MULTIPLE TIMES.

WE DO HAVE AN INCREASE IN DEBRIS COMING TO THE CURB FROM THE STORM.

AND THE REASON WHY IS SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEER AGENCIES THAT'S BEEN HELPING NONPROFITS ARE JUST NOW ABLE TO GET TO OUR RESIDENTS IN ANGLETON.

SO THAT'S BRINGING THE DEBRIS OUT.

ALSO, A LOT OF INSURANCE CLAIMS ARE NOW BEING MADE AND BRINGING DEBRIS OUT.

THE ESTIMATE I DID BRING THIS TO YOU GUYS FOR YOUR DECISION.

IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WASTE CONNECTIONS IS CHARGING SOME RESIDENTS ONE RESIDENT, TO GET AN ESTIMATE OF $800.

OR SOMETIMES THEY ARE PICKING IT UP FOR CUBIC YARDS AT A TIME.

BUT I MUST STRESS THAT THEIR CONTRACT DOES SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR STORM DEBRIS.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S LABELED AS.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT BRING A COUPLE OF IDEAS.

SOLUTIONS TO YOU.

ONE OF THOSE IS ACTIVATING OUR CROWDER GULF CONTRACT, AGAIN, BRINGING A MONITORING COMPANY IN SO WE CAN GET FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.

THAT TOTAL COST IS 465,000 WITH A CITY AMOUNT AFTER FEMA REIMBURSEMENT BEING $116,250.

THIS IS ON 20,000YD³ ASSESSMENT.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE 20,000YD³ FROM WHAT I CAN SEE.

IT'S HARD TO SEE YOU IN BACKYARDS, BUT I'D RATHER MAKE A HIGHER AMOUNT.

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20,000YD³ IS WHAT WE HAD DURING THE MARCH STORM, SO THAT IS A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS.

THE SECOND OPTION IS TO HIRE WASTE CONNECTIONS.

THEIR COST WAS 140,500.

IT IS NOT FEMA REIMBURSABLE.

IT ALSO INCLUDES STUMP REMOVAL BECAUSE THEIR MACHINERY IS UNABLE TO LIFT SOME OF THE LARGER STUMPS.

THE COMPANY THAT WE DID HIRE TO REMOVE STUMPS IN MARCH, THEY CHARGED $700 PER STUMP.

IF IT'S THE LARGE ONES THAT THEY HAVE TO BE A GRAPPLE, BIG GRAPPLE TO BRING IN AND GET ON A ON A TRAILER.

THOSE LARGE STUMPS.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT 140,500 INCURS.

SO ANY QUESTIONS? OH, YEAH. I'M SURE.

YES, SIR. FIRST OFF, THE CROWDER GULF NUMBER THAT YOU GAVE WAS 400.

AND WHAT. IT'S 465,000.

THAT INCLUDES THE 25% FOR MONITORING.

MONITORING. OKAY.

BUT THE ATTACHMENT HAS 372,000.

YEAH, 77 OR 3 FOR CROWDER AND GULF TO COME IN.

AND THEN YOU TAKE 25% OF THAT COST, WHICH IS WHAT THE MONITORING COMPANY TETRA TECH WOULD CHARGE US BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT TO GET FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.

SO YOU'RE 400 AND WHAT WAS IT, 50? 465,065 AT FEMA.

REIMBURSE WHAT, 75 OR 85? 8,075%? 75%.

WE WOULD PAY 116,250, 116, 116,000 VERSUS WASTE CONNECTIONS 140.

YES, THAT IS AT A 20,000YD³.

YEAH, THAT'S A 20,000.

WHAT'S THE TIMING ON BOTH WAIST CONNECTIONS? I DID MAKE SURE THEY WOULD DEDICATE A TRUCK TO US.

THEY WILL DEDICATE TRUCKS.

THEY'RE SAYING THREE WEEKS.

CROWDER AND GOLF IS TWO WEEKS.

I DO HAVE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU GUYS COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD ON THE OPTIONS OF WHAT WE'LL HAVE A HARD DATE.

THEN WE'LL PUBLISH ZONES, AND THEN I WILL DRIVE EACH ZONE AT ADDRESSES TO THE LIST.

SO WE'LL HAVE A HOT LIST IS WHAT IT'S CALLED.

AND SO IF YOUR RESIDENCE IS NOT ON THE HOT LIST, THEN YOUR DEBRIS IS NOT GETTING PICKED UP.

AND IF IT DOESN'T GET PICKED UP THIS TIME, THEN IT'S ON THE RESIDENTS.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW MANY HOUSES DO YOU HAVE ON THE LIST RIGHT NOW? I HAVE ABOUT I'M JUST GOING TO ROUGH GUESSTIMATE 85 ISH 85 HOUSEHOLDS.

85 HOUSEHOLDS.

YES. YEAH, THAT WAS 60 OF THE DAY WHEN WE TALKED.

WE HAVE THAT.

THAT'S ON SAMARITAN'S PURSE ONLY.

WE DO HAVE WE HAVE ONE ON CRYSTAL STREET.

WHO? THE INSURANCE CLAIM JUST CAME AND GAVE HER PERMISSION TO REMOVE THEIR WHOLE CARPORT, WHICH WAS COMPLETELY DAMAGED.

WE ALSO HAVE PHILLIPS.

WE HAVE ADDRESSES OUT THERE THAT WEREN'T ON SAMARITAN'S PURSE THAT NOW HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DEBRIS AT THE CURB.

SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A FINAL DATE? BECAUSE I STILL SEE TREES AND STUFF DOWN IN PEOPLE'S YARD THAT THEY HAVEN'T PUT OUT YET.

YES. SO THAT'S MY, MY, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE HAVE THIS HARD DATE, WHATEVER THAT DAY MAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY OCTOBER 10TH, IT'S WELL PUBLISHED.

WE PUT IT OUT THERE EXTREMELY WELL.

WE DO THE HOTLIST AND WE PUBLISH WHAT DAYS I'LL BE IN WHAT ZONES, WRITING YOUR ADDRESS DOWN.

AND THEN YOU CAN SUBMIT THE ADDRESS TO EYEWORKS TO MAKE SURE YOUR ADDRESS IS ON THERE.

AND THEN WE PUBLISH AND MAKE IT WELL KNOWN THAT IF YOUR ADDRESS IS NOT ON THIS LIST, IF YOU DO NOT TRY TO GET YOUR ADDRESS ON THIS LIST, THEN IT IS UP TO YOU TO REMOVE THE DEBRIS.

IT WILL NOT BE ON THE CITY.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. IN OUR DECISION PACKAGE, WE ALSO HAVE DEBRIS REMOVAL.

THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AS WHAT CROWDER GULF IS GOING TO CHARGE US.

AND THEN WE HAVE IT FOR FUTURE USE.

DO WE WANT TO PURSUE THAT INSTEAD? SO I MADE A PHONE CALL RIGHT BEFORE COUNCIL TO FIND OUT.

SO A GRAPPLE TRUCK THAT WE WANT IS AROUND 312,000.

I DID MAKE A PHONE CALL TO FEMA, AND THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT WE WOULD GET A 75 REIMBURSEMENT AS MITIGATION FOR THE GRAPPLE TRUCK, SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. HOWEVER, THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE FACING IS THAT THE GRAPPLE TRUCK WILL NOT BE HERE IN TIME TO MITIGATE THIS.

THAT'S GOING THROUGH FEMA.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S A POTENTIAL LATER ON WHEN WE GET THROUGH THIS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE TIME FRAME IS NOT SUITABLE FOR THE MITIGATION GOING ON NOW.

OKAY. I TRIED THAT TOO.

SO IN THE DEBRIS REMOVAL THROUGH CROWDER GULF IN THE IN THE MONITORING IS ACTUALLY IN ITEM NUMBER 19.

SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION WE HAVE A FUNDING SOLUTION FOR THAT.

THERE IS POTENTIAL TO LOWER THOSE COSTS.

[01:40:03]

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO BE SURE OF.

AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT PROMISE BECAUSE IT INVOLVES T-C-EQ AND SOME OTHERS THAT I HAVEN'T QUITE GOT FULLY ENGAGED WITH.

SO YOU'RE HEDGING A LITTLE BIT? YES, SIR.

I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU MONEY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PROMISE YOU SOMETHING I CAN'T FIT, SO.

FAIR ENOUGH. SO WHAT DO YOU.

WHAT'S YOUR WHAT? I'VE HEARD YOU EXPLAIN TO US TONIGHT IS THE SECOND ROUND OF THIS NEXT ROUND OF GOING THROUGH WITH CROWDER GULF.

YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO PICK UP THE ADDRESSES THAT THEY'RE TOLD TO PICK UP.

YES, WE THAT'S WE CAN DO IT BOTH WAYS.

THAT WAS MY IDEA.

THEY THEY CAN DO A FULL CITY, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE PRICE AT ALL.

IT'S NOT. IT DOESN'T.

NO, IT'S THEY'RE BASED BY CUBIC YARDS.

WE CAN PULL UP, DO A FULL CITY AND HAVE A FIRM STOP DATE.

AND THAT'S YOUR FIRM STOP DATE NO MATTER WHAT.

YOU CAN DO THAT.

AND IT'S BASED ON CUBIC YARDS.

SO IF THEY ONLY PICK UP 10,000YD³, THEN IT'S ONLY 10,000YD³.

MR. HOLLIS, AN ATTEMPT TO.

SO IT'S NOT BASED ON TIME, RIGHT? IT'S NOT BASED ON TIME.

WELL, I MEAN, I ASSUME YOU WERE TRYING TO CREATE SOME EFFICIENCY, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

YES. EFFICIENCY.

BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU GIVE AN OPEN HARD DATE, THEN YOU RUN INTO THE.

WELL, I HAD MY DEBRIS OUT HERE, BUT WE CAME TO THAT ZONE THAT ADDRESS DURING THIS TIMEFRAME.

SO YES, YOU YOU HAD IT OUT BY THIS POINT, BUT IT WASN'T THERE WHEN WE WERE THERE.

SO THERE'S THOSE LITTLE OVERLAPS THAT YOU RUN INTO.

I'D LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE GRAPPLE TRUCK BEING FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.

I'D LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT.

I'M WORKING ON IT. I SENT MULTIPLE EMAILS TODAY.

I HAD A MEETING TODAY.

I AM REALLY WORKING ON THAT ONE.

SURELY THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE WHO'S GOT A TRUCK THAT WANTS TO SELL IT.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT WITH THE GRAPPLE TRUCK IS BECAUSE OF LACK OF MANPOWER.

THAT'S A BIG THING WITH US, IS WE NEED THE TRUCK TO BE ABLE TO BE ONE PERSON MANNED BECAUSE OF THE BLIND SPOTS.

AND SO THERE'S VERY FEW COMPANIES THAT MAKE THOSE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE RUNNING INTO.

BECAUSE YES, HECTOR AND I HAVE HAD EXTENSIVE GRAPPLER CONVERSATIONS TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THIS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE JUST INSTEAD OF HAULING OFF TRASH, WE GET A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THE DEAL GETS TO BE NICE TO HAVE IT.

AND ACTUALLY, FEMA PREFERS THAT THEY PREFER TO MITIGATE AND HAVE A LONG TERM SOLUTION.

THAT'S WHY I WAS REALLY HOPING THEY WOULD JUMP ON THIS.

THE ISSUE IS THE TIME FRAME.

AND SO WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME? FOR DEBRIS MANAGEMENT WE HAVE TILL OCTOBER 27TH.

AND THEN SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT FOR THE REST OF IT.

SO I HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS DONE BY 6 IN 6 MONTHS.

AND WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU COULD GET A GRAPPLE TRUCK? I COULDN'T GET A FIRM ANSWER FROM MY COMPANY TODAY.

I BELIEVE IT WAS.

I BELIEVE FOR THE GRAPPLER TRUCK.

IT WAS. IT WAS 18 WEEKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WITH THE GRAPPLE TRUCK, I KNOW I HAD IT ON THE WHEN I BROUGHT WHEN I BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL FOR BUDGET, I HAD IT ALL LISTED OUT IN THERE ON THE TIMELINES OF THEM OR WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT BASED ON, A FINANCING THEM.

I HAD THAT ALL LISTED OUT, BUT YES, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE WE GET ONE.

I MEAN, IF Y'ALL WANT US TO EXPLORE THAT, WE DEFINITELY WILL AND POSSIBLY SEE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY THEY BUILD THESE TRUCKS INDIVIDUALLY, SO SOMETIMES THEY HAVE SOME READY.

YOU KNOW, HE I KNOW HE MENTIONED TO ME, IF YOU WERE TO ORDER DURING THIS TIME FRAME, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL READY.

IF YOU ORDER IN THIS TIME FRAME NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE THIS MANY READY SO I CAN MAKE A PHONE CALL AND SEE IF WE CAN GET ONE SOON.

I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE PHONE CALLS AND SEE IF, IF A, IF THERE IS ANYONE AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE.

I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE DUE DILIGENCE THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE PEOPLE WILL PURCHASE THESE THINGS AND THEN MAYBE PURCHASE FALLS THROUGH FOR WHATEVER REASON. I WOULD MAKE SURE AND GET ON A LIST OF OF THAT AS WELL, JUST TO BE JUST TO BE NOTIFIED IF FOR SOME REASON PROBABLY DID THAT ALREADY.

YES. YES.

GOOD IDEA. ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT I, I REALLY LIKED BECAUSE THE LOCAL MADE VERY WELL MADE STRUCTURALLY SOUND.

THEY HAVE A WAITING LIST AND IT'S HIGH HURRICANE SEASON, SO.

THANK YOU SIR. AND I WANT TO RECALL ON THE FOURTH THURSDAY.

WHAT DID YOU SAY. YOU MIGHT WANT TO RECALL THE FOURTH THURSDAY.

YEAH, YEAH. WHATEVER PROCESS WE GO THROUGH, WE NEED TO, LIKE YOU SAID, VERY WELL DOCUMENT, VERY WELL PUBLICIZED.

HEY, HERE'S A CUT OFF DATE.

WE CAN'T KEEP DOING IT.

NO, MURPHY SHOWED UP TWICE THIS YEAR.

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WE ONLY HAVE THIS MUCH MONEY, AND WE GOT TO BORROW THE REST.

100%, I AGREE.

YEAH, AND I HAVE TO SAY, MAYBE I'M ON CITY COUNCIL, AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE DEBRIS PICKUP WAS PROBABLY.

WELL, IT WAS LIKELY SIGNIFICANTLY FLAWED BECAUSE I GOT EVERYTHING I HAD OUT AND AND DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS EVEN GOING TO BE ANOTHER ROUND OF THIS.

WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ANOTHER ROUND.

THERE IS OTHER CITIES.

THERE WAS A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS WITH THIS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS TO MOVE THE VOLUNTEER LIST, LIKE IT'S USUALLY MOVED DURING A DISASTER.

SO THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT I'VE TALKED TO IN MY EMERGENCY MANAGERS THAT ARE FACING THE SAME SITUATION THAT WE ARE, AND WHAT TO DO WITH THIS, ANOTHER ROUND OF A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS.

I'M JUST MORE OF A CURIOSITY QUESTION.

GO OUT TO EGG PECK PARK, THE GULF.

CROWDER'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR HOWEVER LONG.

NO THEY DIDN'T. THEY HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT.

THEY'RE THEY'RE WORKING WITH COUNTY.

RIGHT. OKAY. I WAS WONDERING OKAY.

SO THEY'RE USING OUR FACILITIES FOR COUNTY.

THEY'RE THEY'RE USING THAT STAGING PARKING LOT TELLING YOU IT'S IT'S SOCCER SEASON.

THERE'S LIMITED PARKING.

YES, WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

OKAY. SO I WILL SAY IF YOU DO GO WITH CROWDER GOLF, I HAD THE CONVERSATION.

THEY WILL AND IT'S BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT PERSONAL BUT THEY WILL LOSE MONEY ON THIS ONE.

AND COMING OUT THERE ARE COMING HERE BECAUSE IT'S ENACTED BY A CONTRACT.

IT IS WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? IT'S BUSINESS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I TOLD THEM.

ALREADY HERE. OKAY.

I WAS IMPRESSED WITH CROWDER.

GO. BUT THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS TAKING CARE OF THIS THING.

IT IS. I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT UP ON WEST CONNECTIONS.

BUT I'LL BEAT UP ON WEST CONNECTION BECAUSE I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN TREATED LIKE A STEPCHILD A COUPLE OF TIMES.

I HAD TO MAKE A I HAD TO VOICE MY COMPLAINT TO THEM AND THEY GOT I GOT THEIR ATTENTION.

AND I'M CONCERNED IF THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THIS TIME, THAT PEOPLE AROUND TOWN WOULD GET SKIPPED OVER BECAUSE THAT'S.

SO WHAT? THEY'RE BLOCKING.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. YES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN.

I HOPE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN.

LIKE WE TRADED PLACES HERE.

NORMALLY, I'M USUALLY BEATEN BY WASTE CONNECTIONS.

I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE CONTRACT, BUT IT'S A FINANCIAL DECISION.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO GIVE IT TO WASTE CONNECTIONS.

YES. YOU'RE TAKING A.

YOU'RE TAKING A GAMBLE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE IF THERE'S LESS THAN 20,000YD³ IN WASTE CONNECTIONS, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY THE WAY TO GO.

IT IS. RIGHT.

BUT IF THERE'S THAT 20,000YD³ AND YOU YOU NEED THAT FEMA TO HELP YOU PAY FOR IT.

SO YOU ARE REALLY TAKING A ROLL OF THE DICE AT THIS POINT.

AND HOW MANY ARE ON THE LIST RIGHT NOW? 85. YES, THAT IS A GUESSTIMATE.

OKAY. LET'S SAY THAT IT'S 100.

WHAT SOLD ME ALSO AS YOU TOLD ME, THAT THEY'LL COME THROUGH AND DO THE WHOLE CITY AGAIN.

THEY WILL NEED THEM FOR THE SAME PRICE.

YES, BECAUSE IT'S BY CUBIC YARDS.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T REACH 20,000? NOTHING. IT JUST GETS CHEAPER.

OKAY, SO IF WE HAD 125 DOORS, THAT'S 160 YARDS.

FOR THE 20,000YD³.

IT'S A LOT.

THAT WOULD BE STUFF PILED UP TO MY ROOF.

LIKE I SAID, I WOULD RATHER I OVERESTIMATED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THOSE BACKYARDS.

AND I'D RATHER COME TO YOU WITH THIS BIG NUMBER AND THEN BE YOUR HERO WHEN I COME BACK AND BE LIKE, LOOK HOW MUCH IT REALLY IS.

DANG IT.

I WAS JUST I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.

I'M LIKE 85 DOORS AT 20,000YD³.

AND I'M SITTING HERE THINKING THAT WE WOULD HAVE HUGE HOLES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 13 OR SO 14YD³ OF DIRT.

YES. TALK TO ME ABOUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OF DEBRIS.

YES WE DO. COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION.

I.

WILL MOVE TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH CROWDER GULF.

[01:50:04]

AND I'LL SECOND THAT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTEN TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO CROWDER GULF FOR THE HURRICANE BERYL DEBRIS REMOVAL, THE LAST AND FINAL TRIP.

THIS IS A SEQUEL TO A MOVIE THAT'S GOING TO KEEP ON REPEATING.

IT IS NOT GROUNDHOG DAY.

FINAL DESTINATION.

WE'RE MISSING HELENA VERSION TEN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ARE THEY GOING TO JUST PICK THIS UP AND HAUL IT OUT THERE TO THE DUMP, OR ARE THEY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO? I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL MY SECRETS ALL BUT YES, THAT QUOTE SAYS THAT THEY'RE HAULING IT STRAIGHT FROM THE RESIDENCE, STRAIGHT TO SEABREEZE.

WHICH IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ESTIMATE WHERE A HUGE CHUNK OF MONEY COMES FROM.

BUT IF I HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH T-C-E-Q AND WE OPEN THE DMS SITE, THEN IT WILL BE CUT DOWN IMMENSELY BECAUSE WE WON'T BE HAULING A LARGE AMOUNT TO THE LANDFILL.

WE WON'T BE. IT WON'T BE SHIPPED THIS TIME.

IF IT DEPENDS ON WHAT TCU WILL ALLOW ME TO DO, IF IT WILL BE BURNED OR CHIPPED.

ALL RIGHT. PLEASE LET US KNOW ON THE SHIPPER OR THE GRAPPLER WHAT YOU FIND OUT.

I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JAMIE.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 19.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE AMOUNT OF THE EMERGENCY NOTE.

[19. Discussion and possible action on the amount of the emergency note.]

NOW, DRUG JOE DOWN HERE AGAIN.

I HAVE TO GET YOU A REGULAR CHAIR, JOE.

I CAN'T. SLEEP FOR SURE.

EXCUSE ME. AFTER THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

WE'VE MET.

I'VE MET WITH CHRIS AND JAMIE AND COLLEEN SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE THESE EMERGENCY NOTES.

AND WE GOT THE AMOUNT DOWN TO 4 MILLION, $63,000.

BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE THE COST OF THE DEBRIS THAT YOU JUST APPROVED.

THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE THE CITY'S MATCH ON THE GENERATOR FOR THE RECREATION CENTER.

BECAUSE THE THE THE LAW DOES ALLOW US TO PUT SOME CAPITAL EQUIPMENT IN.

SO WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO GET THAT.

AND SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THAT ORDERED.

AND THEN THE VARIOUS DAMAGES AROUND THE CITY.

WE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOE AND LET HIM EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

ALL RIGHT. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JOE MORROW, HILLTOP SECURITIES.

I'VE GOT THREE PAGES HERE I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH.

LET ME TELL YOU PHILIP JUST POINTED OUT TO ME, I WAS WORKING ON THIS ONE THIS AFTERNOON AND TRYING TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, AND SOMEHOW I MANAGED TO GET THE TOTAL UP TO 7.9 MILLION.

BUT WHEN WE ADDED IT UP OVER THERE, THAT ISN'T THE RIGHT NUMBER.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT I DID WITHIN THE SPREADSHEET, BUT.

YOU'LL SEE. THANK YOU.

THAT'S TWO POINTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO WE START WITH THE STORM CASUALTY PROJECTS AND ITEMS THERE.

AND I HAVE FEMA ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.

RIGHT. SO DEBRIS REMOVAL, YOU CAN SEE THE COST TO DATE ESTIMATE FOR FINAL PASS, AND THEN THE ASSORTED UNCOVERED COSTS ARE DETAILED THERE TO YOUR LEFT, FROM ANTIQUE STRAIGHT LIGHT LIGHTS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ANIMAL CONTROL.

THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT IS THE GENERATOR REC CENTER.

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AND THE PRE-STORM OCCURRENCE OR THOSE EXPENDITURES.

AS THE STORM WAS COMING AND YOU ALL WERE PREPARING, THEN ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR FEMA WOULD BE REPAIR OF THE ROOF ON THE ANNEX BUILDING COSTS OF ISSUANCE.

AND THEN WE DID ROUNDING, NOT MAKING I'M MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS HERE.

LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SELL THIS IN THOUSAND DOLLAR BLOCKS TYPICALLY BOND SELL IN 5000.

BUT THIS IS OUR METHOD OF SALE IS IS NOT TYPICAL IN THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A PRIVATE PLACEMENT.

AND ALL OF THAT DOES NOT TOTAL THE 7,000,918 728.

IT IT TOTALS 4,063,000.

OKAY. SO THEN FURTHER TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE.

I BROKE OUT THAT ELIGIBLE AMOUNT INTO THE 75% THAT FEMA WOULD PAY, AND WHAT THE CITIES MATCH WOULD BE AT 25% BECAUSE DOWN BELOW, YOU'LL SEE WE PUT THAT INTO ADD THAT WITH THE NOT FEMA ELIGIBLE TO GET WHAT IS IS GOING TO BE WHAT YOU ULTIMATELY WOULD PAY.

SO THE FIRST SIZING NUMBER MAKES THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE GET FULL REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA, FEMA AT 75% OF EVERYTHING THAT'S ELIGIBLE.

AND THERE YOU SEE, WE TOTAL THE 4,063,000.

AND NO FEMA OR CITY PORTION OF THE COST WOULD BE 1,171,000.

AND THEN JUST TO STRESS THAT I TOOK THE 75% THAT WAS WOULD BE FELT FOR FEMA ELIGIBLE.

I JUST SAID, OKAY, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GET 75% OF THAT.

SO THAT DROPPED THAT NUMBER TO 2,168,000.

AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I DID FOR SIZING EXERCISE, JUST BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN FOLKS HAVE TO WRITE OFF FEMA RECEIVABLES BEFORE.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU GET 100% OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ELIGIBLE.

BUT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, I WANTED TO PLAN ON Y'ALL GETTING LESS.

AND IF WE GET MORE THEN ALL TO THE GOOD FOR THAT.

LET ME GET YOU THE NEXT PAGE.

BUT FIRST, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SIZING PAGE? WHEN YOU TOOK 75% OF THE 75% IS THAT COMMON? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S HAPPENED.

YOU'VE SEEN IT, BUT, I MEAN, IF WE'VE GOT THIS ALL ITEMIZED THE WAY WE HAVE IT AND WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED WHAT'S FEMA ELIGIBLE AND WHAT'S NOT, YOU MAY GET IT.

YOU MAY NOT. OKAY.

RIGHT. I'M ONLY DOING THIS FOR SIZING PURPOSES.

AND THE ONE THING ABOUT FEMA WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THOSE PAYMENTS ARE GOING TO COME.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES ALL OF THIS DIFFICULT IS THE UNPREDICTABILITY OF HOW MUCH ARE WE REALLY GOING TO GET AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET IT.

SO ALL THINGS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERED AND IT WORKS OUT GOOD.

THEN WE'RE IN IN GOOD SHAPE.

BUT LET ME TAKE YOU, YOU KNOW, HOLD HOLD THAT THOUGHT.

AND THEN LET ME TAKE YOU TO THE NEXT PAGE WHERE I KIND OF TRY AND DO A CASH FLOW OF WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? AND THIS IS ALL GUESSING, RIGHT? YOU ALL COULD TELL ME SOME AMOUNTS OF OF WHAT YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE, AND IT WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT THAN THIS.

BUT I TRIED TO LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

AND I JUST RAN QUARTERLY REIMBURSEMENTS.

I STILL HAD FEMA PAYING OUT BY SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2025.

SO, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW THAT EVERYTHING WE WOULD GET FROM FEMA, WE WOULD HAVE AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN.

IT MAY STRETCH OUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

IS THIS THE AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE? I'M SORRY, IS THIS THE AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE THAT YOU SENT THROUGH EMAIL? YES. OKAY.

THIS IS OFF THE 4 MILLION OFF THE 4 MILLION.

63. 63.

AND SORRY, IT IS SMALL.

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THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ.

I'M USED TO IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WITH THIS YOU KNOW, I JUST STARTED WITH DECEMBER 15TH AND ACCRUING THAT WOULD BE THAT WE DELIVER SOMETIME AROUND NOVEMBER.

I JUST GRABBED THE RATE OUT OF THE AIR AT 4%.

I WOULD BE HOPEFUL THAT WE WOULD GET SOMETHING BELOW THAT.

BUT I WOULD RATHER, YOU KNOW, OVERSTATE WHAT WE MAY BE PAYING.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A BASED ON A MONTHLY CASH FLOW.

A BULLET MATURITY OUT THERE AT 4 MILLION.

NOW, THIS IS 4,000,018.

I GUESS I DIDN'T UPDATE THIS AFTER WE ADJUSTED THE FINAL PASS ESTIMATE, BUT YOU GET THE IDEA.

I HAVE $1 MILLION COMING FROM FEMA IN MARCH OF 2025.

AND WHENEVER WE DO A CASH FLOW ISSUE SUCH AS THIS WHERE WE'VE GOT A MATURITY WITHOUT A SCHEDULED PAYMENT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOUR BONDS, YOU TYPICALLY HAVE SEMIANNUAL INTEREST AND THEN A PAR AMOUNT DUE EVERY YEAR.

IT'S A FIXED SCHEDULE.

THIS IS NOT THIS IS JUST WE'RE GOING TO ASK OUR PURCHASER TO GIVE US A BULLET MATURITY OUT THERE.

AND THEY MAY ASK US TO AMORTIZE SOME OF IT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THEN WE WILL PUT IN SOME PRINCIPAL IN EACH YEAR.

BUT MY THOUGHT ON THIS IS YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WIND UP, AND WHY I RAN IT IN THIS MANNER IS YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WIND UP GETTING, YOU KNOW, YOUR FEMA MONEY COMING IN IN A BIG CHUNK UP FRONT.

RIGHT. AS YOU'VE ALREADY HAD SOME SUBMITTED.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT COMES IN $1 MILLION FOLLOWING IN A QUARTER WITH 600,000 AND THEN 543,000.

AND THAT WOULD GET YOU DOWN TO 2,000,001 43, WHICH WOULD BE THE REDUCED FEMA REPAYMENT.

AND MY PURPOSE IN DOING THIS IS TRYING TO SHOW AFFORDABILITY.

RIGHT. I WANT TO JUST BE SURE THAT WE'RE SIZING SOMETHING AROUND WHAT WE CAN WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO REPAY.

SO TO AMORTIZE THE PORTION THAT DOESN'T GET PAID BACK WITH FEMA.

I TOOK WHAT YOUR DEBT SERVICE IS BUDGETED FOR THE CERTIFICATES THAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT AS WE WENT IN, AND THEN WE FOUND, OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO EMERGENCY NOTES.

SO THAT'S 470,000.

SO I ALLOCATED 470,000 FOR EVERY YEAR.

KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF IF WE HAD PLANNED FOR THIS AND BUDGETED 470,000, HOW QUICKLY COULD WE PAY IT BACK? AND SO THAT WOULD LEAVE US A SMALL TAIL OUT THERE FOR AUGUST OF 2029, RIGHT? ABOUT $300,000 IN THIS EXAMPLE.

AND AGAIN, ABOUT THE ONLY THING IN HERE THAT WE WOULD BE SOMEWHAT SURE ABOUT IS YOUR PAYMENT.

RIGHT FROM THE LEVY OF TAXES.

AND I JUST PUT THAT AT AUGUST 15TH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOUR NORMAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT IS.

BUT IN REALITY, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT YOUR LEVY COLLECTIONS, YOU MAY PAY THAT EARLIER IN THE YEAR AS YOU HAD ACCUMULATED THE FUNDS.

WE ALWAYS HAVE TO APPLY OUR PAYMENT TO INTEREST THAT HAS ACCRUED FIRST BEFORE WE GET INTO PAYING DOWN PRINCIPAL.

SO THAT'S HOW THAT IS STRUCTURED.

AND THIS WOULD SHOW THAT WE COULD PAY IT OFF BY AUGUST 15TH OF 2029, WHICH BASICALLY MAKES THIS A FIVE YEAR OBLIGATION.

IF WE HAD THE FULL AMOUNT FROM FEMA AND WE GOT EVERYTHING.

THAT WOULD NATURALLY SHORTEN IT AND WE'D BE IN THE FOR YEARS POSSIBLY EVEN BEING ABLE TO PAY

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IT OFF IN THREE YEARS, DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY WE GOT THAT FULL AMOUNT AND COULD CUT THE INTEREST ON IT.

SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S THERE'S JUST A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.

AND THE ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE IS IF WE GOT NOTHING FROM FEMA, IT'S ALL YOURS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER.

I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU GET 100% OF WHAT YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR.

CERTAINLY HAVE NOT A GREAT IDEA OF HOW IT'S GOING TO COME BACK.

I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER DISASTERS AROUND THE NATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FEMA COVERS EVERYTHING, RIGHT? SO AS FEMA MONEY DIMINISHES AND MORE NATURAL DISASTERS ADD IT'S SUBJECT TO BUDGET APPROPRIATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

RIGHT. SO AT ANY RATE, THAT'S HOW I CAME UP WITH THE SIZING.

I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING FOR FOR THE CITY IS WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS TAKE WHAT YOU HAD BUDGETED FOR DEBT AND JUST SAY, OKAY, THIS EMERGENCY NOTE IS GOING TO TAKE THAT UP.

AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE US TO USE THAT TO GET THIS PAID OFF? AND, YOU KNOW, IN WHAT I WOULD HOPE IS A WORST CASE SCENARIO, THAT WOULD BE FIVE YEARS.

REGARDLESS, FIVE YEARS IS WHEN IT WILL BE PAID OFF, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE CAN'T EXTEND IT BEYOND THIS.

IN TALKING WITH TAX COUNSEL BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS WORKING CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, THEY FELT LIKE WE HAD A DEFENSIBLE POSITION IN DOING THIS FIVE YEARS INSTEAD OF THE THREE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE BY DOING IT THIS WAY THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO UNREASONABLY SPIKE OUR TAX RATE.

SO BASED ON OUR EXPECTATIONS AS WE'RE SITTING HERE KNOWING WE HAVE A RECEIVABLE FROM FEMA, WE HAVE A PIECE THAT WE HAVE TO PICK UP AND WE'RE WITHIN REASON, SAYING SOME OF THIS FEMA MONEY MAY NOT COME AND WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN YOU WITH A SPIKE IN THE TAX RATE THAT THIS AMORTIZATION MET THE TESTS THAT SHE WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO WE HAVE IN THAT SENSE THE THE CHECK FROM TAX COUNCIL.

SO LET ME GIVE YOU THE THIRD SCHEDULE THAT I RAN.

BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS.

YES. I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD SO THE MAJOR CHANGE EQUIPMENT WISE IS WE TOOK OUT THE PUMPS FROM THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AT 557,000 AND PUT THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THERE AS A SUBSTITUTE.

HEY, JOE, I'D HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

THE PAYMENT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING EVERY AUGUST 470,000.

IS THAT BASED ONLY ON THE NO SIDE OR THE INS SIDE AS WELL? THAT'S THE DEBT SERVICE ONLY.

IT IS THE DEBT SERVICE ONLY.

SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A TAX RATE SET THE WAY WE HAVE IT FOR NEXT YEAR, ASSUMING A DEBT ISSUANCE, WE CAN ACTUALLY IF WE DON'T GO OUT FOR THAT DEBT ISSUANCE, WE CAN STILL USE THAT MONEY FOR THIS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AND WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF DOING THIS ANNUAL PAYMENTS INSTEAD OF DOING MONTHLY PAYMENTS.

IT'S JUST THE WAY I RAN IT TOGETHER.

I MEAN, JUST WONDERING WE THAT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE A A DEAL WRITTEN, RIGHT? THE LENDER, WHEN WE GO OUT AND ARE IN A SEARCH FOR SOMEBODY TO BE THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS AND LEND US THE MONEY.

WE'LL BE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM INTEREST RATE TO FAVORABLE TERMS. SURE. AND IF YOU YOU KNOW, THEY MAY SAY, I'LL LEND YOU THE MONEY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THIS THING EVERY MONTH.

RIGHT. THAT'S KIND OF COMMON.

THEY'RE LIKE, THEY MAY SAY, YOU PAY ME ONCE A YEAR, YOU PAY ME TWICE A YEAR, BUT THAT'S IT.

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BECAUSE THEY'RE USED TO BONDS, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT THEY THEY WANT.

NOW, SOME MAY NOT CARE.

IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY HOUSE, THE OBLIGATION.

I'VE DONE A PRIVATE PLACEMENT WHERE THEY SAID WE THINK BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU WANT TO REPAY THIS AND THE TYPE OF DEBT THIS IS, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT WITH OUR MORTGAGE GROUP.

IF WE HAD SOMEBODY LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE PERFECTLY SET UP TO GET MONTHLY PAYMENTS.

WE JUST WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET OUT THERE, WE CAN GO AND ASK FOR WHAT WE WANT, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT I'LL DO.

TYPICALLY, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, IS I'M GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A TERM SHEET AND SEND IT OUT.

IT'S VERY COMMON, THOUGH, FOR THESE PURCHASERS TO LOOK AT THIS AND COME BACK AND SAY, I WANT THIS.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE UNIQUE NEGOTIATION IN THE PRIVATE PLACEMENT.

I'M CONCERNED THAT THAT FEMA NUMBER, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL DEPENDENT ON THE FEMA PAYMENT OR THE FEMA MONEY AS WELL, BECAUSE THE INTEREST IS GOING TO COMPOUND THE LONGER THE LONGER IT TAKES US TO GET THAT MONEY BACK.

WELL, AND I'M I'M SHOWING THIS AS SIMPLE INTEREST AND NOT COMPOUNDING INTEREST.

SO WE NEVER HAVE INTEREST ON INTEREST.

BUT YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE DEPENDENT UPON FEMA, RIGHT? FOR OVER 50% OF THIS NOTE IS COMING FROM FEMA.

I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE TIMING.

IF YOU KNOW, IF I MEAN SIMPLE INTEREST IS GREAT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE.

YEAH, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE THING, YOU KNOW, IN IN WHAT I'M TRYING TO TO STRESS, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS A GUESS, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST IT'S ALL SPITBALLING.

SO IS THE NUMBER.

I'M JUST TRYING TO TO MY MY WHOLE PURPOSE IN THIS WAS TO GO.

WHAT IF IT'S A LITTLE SLOW? WHAT IF WE DON'T GET EVERYTHING? CAN WE AFFORD IT? AND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? AND. AND THAT'S WHY I CAME UP WITH THE FIVE YEARS.

BECAUSE EVEN IF EVEN IF IT SLOWS AND WE EXTEND THE FIVE YEARS AND WE HAVE A BIGGER NUMBER I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN DO IT WITH THE 470,000, BUT IN A WORST CASE, THAT FOR 70TH MAY HAVE TO BE 550.

RIGHT. WE WE JUST WE DON'T KNOW.

WE CAN.

WE CAN MOVE FORWARD BASED ON OUR BEST KNOWLEDGE AT THE TIME.

RIGHT. WHICH RIGHT NOW WE KNOW WITH OUR LIST THAT WE HAVE ELIGIBLE FEMA EXPENDITURES OF OR NOT EXPENDITURES, BUT THREE, 3,855,000 OF EXPENDITURES THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.

AND THEN WHEN THEY REVIEW THAT LIST, IF THEY QUALIFY EVERYTHING AND HAVE THE MONEY, THEN WE CAN EXPECT TO GET THAT RIGHT.

SO YEAH, THAT'S AND MAYOR, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE HARDEST PART OF THIS WHOLE THING IS WHAT IS IT REALLY GOING TO WHAT'S IT REALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

WELL THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I'M CHUCKLING WITH THE QUOTATION IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR.

I'VE GOT ONE MORE SHEET FOR YOU AND THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONCLUDE OUR DISCUSSION, I THINK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS A CASH FLOW.

AND FOR THE EMERGENCY NOTES I JUST TOOK THE CASH FLOW AS I SHOWED IT ON THE PRIOR PAGE.

SO WE'RE WE'RE.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY PRETENDING, BUT FOR WHATEVER OTHER WORD THERE IS FOR THAT, THAT'S OUR GUESS.

OUR BEST ESTIMATE OF WHAT OUR REPAYMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

CERTAINLY MY GOAL WAS TO KEEP IT AT THE 470,000, WHICH I THINK YOU'RE.

LEVY WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 473,000 TO COVER 2025 ISSUANCE.

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SO WITH THIS, THEN, YOU KNOW I WANTED TO TO SHOW ON THE AFFORDABILITY SIDE OF THIS WHOLE EQUATION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO THE CERTIFICATES THAT WE HAD PLANNED TO DO THIS YEAR BEFORE WE GOT KNOCKED OFF TRACK? AND SO WITH THE 10.5 MILLION I HAVE THIS ASSUME THAT WE DELIVER THIS IN THE MONTH OF JUNE WITH THE FIRST PAYMENT IN FEBRUARY OF 2026, AND THAT WE THEN AMORTIZE THAT OVER A PERIOD OF 25 YEARS.

AND WE WE HAD BEEN RUNNING THIS AT 20 YEARS, BUT NOW WE'RE KIND OF GOT WHAT MAY BE A FIVE YEAR A FIVE YEAR NOTE IN FRONT OF IT.

SO YOU CAN SEE WITH, WITH THIS THAT THAT DOES GIVE US THE ABILITY.

AND I RAN IT AT A 385 YOU KNOW, INTEREST RATES ARE STARTING TO FALL.

EVEN WITH A CHANGE IN RATING TO A+ OR IN THE A CATEGORY.

STILL BEING ABLE TO WRAP THAT WITH INSURANCE AND GET A 385 OR PERHAPS EVEN EVEN LOWER.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD 50 BASIS POINTS LAST WEDNESDAY.

EXPECTATIONS, MARKET EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR 25 NEXT MONTH AND 25 IN DECEMBER.

SO, YOU KNOW, A POINT REDUCTION AND THEN CONTINUED REDUCTION CONTINUED CUTTING OF THE RATES AS WE GO INTO 2025.

BUT THE PROJECTED TAX RATE THEY'RE THE 0.8348 WHAT YOU HAVE SET FOR THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THAT GOES UP BY SLIGHTLY UNDER THREE PENNIES TO $0.11.

BUT THAT COULD CHANGE BECAUSE I JUST USED 8% GROWTH.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WAS KIND OF AN OFF YEAR.

Y'ALL WENT UP BY 103 MILLION.

YOU'VE HAD YEARS WHERE YOU HAD 20% GROWTH, RIGHT? YOU HAD YEARS WHERE YOU'VE HAD LESS THAN THAT, LIKE A LESS THAN THE 8%.

SO I LOOKED AT WHAT YOU DID FROM 24 TO 25, AND I JUST KEPT THAT AND SAY, OKAY SO THAT CAN LOOK BETTER. BUT WE WE AGAIN, DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE.

YOU CAN HAVE AN IDEA IF YOU, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NEXT YEAR'S VALUE IS GOING TO BE BASED UPON WHAT'S ON THE GROUND AT JANUARY 1ST, 2025.

IT JUST TAKES THEM EIGHT MONTHS TO PULL ALL OF THAT DATA TOGETHER, GET IT OUT, GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS A CHANCE TO PROTEST.

BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM LIVING HERE AND SEEING WHAT'S GONE VERTICAL HERE, YOU'LL KNOW ABOUT WHAT YOUR NEW VALUE WOULD BE IF IT WAS A GOOD YEAR, IF IT WAS A BAD YEAR. HOME BUILDING FOR MOST AREAS HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT DOWN JUST BECAUSE MORTGAGE RATES SPIKED UP. WE DIDN'T SEE HOUSING SALES IN A LOT OF AREAS AROUND HOUSTON AS STRONG AS THEY HAD BEEN IN PRIOR YEARS.

BUT YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THAT'S GOING TO PICK UP IN 2026 BE A BETTER YEAR.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE LOOK AT TO GIVE YOU EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

SO, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY UNDER THREE PENNIES WOULD GET YOU THE 10.5 MILLION WITH PROCEEDS IN JUNE.

AND I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS DRIVING THAT TIMING OF THAT.

ONE, WE NEED TO GET OUR FIRST PAYMENT INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY. AND FOR THAT, WE'VE GOT TO GO AROUND FEDERAL TAX LAW BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE OUR FIRST COUPON OR FIRST PAYMENT BE MORE THAN 12 MONTHS.

RIGHT. THE OTHER ISSUE THEN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE WANT TO HAVE AN AUDIT AGAIN, RIGHT.

AND I'M ASSUMING THAT OUR AUDIT COMES IN ON TIME MARCH 31ST.

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AND AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO WHERE ARE WE WITH THIS NOTE? WHAT IS FEMA DONE? RIGHT. BECAUSE IF WE'RE WAY AHEAD OF THE GAME AND WE KNOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY IT OFF IN 28 OR OR THEREABOUTS, THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME ABILITY TO MOVE OUR STRUCTURING AROUND AND AND PROVIDE SOME RELIEF ON THE TAX RATE OR JUST YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA TO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY FEMA MONEY OR HAVEN'T GOTTEN AS MUCH AS WE EXPECTED, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT. ARE WE READY TO MOVE FORWARD, OR DO WE WANT TO WAIT A LITTLE LONGER TO SEE WHAT MAY COME IN IN FEMA MONEY BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE STARTING LINE AND PUSH INTO THE MARKET WITH A NEW, NEW ISSUE.

SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE, WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT OUR FEMA REPAYMENT STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE.

AND WE JUST WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW UNTIL THE CHECK COMES IN.

BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON.

YOUR POTENTIAL CASH FLOW FOR NEW ISSUANCE.

WISE. JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

ARE YOU MOVING THE AMOUNT THE PAYMENTS EVERY EVERY YEAR ON THE 10.5 MILLION DEPENDENT UPON THE ISSUANCE DATE.

IS THAT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? WHY IS IT NOT STATIC ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE AMORTIZATION? NO. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I SHOW YOU THESE SCHEDULES, I'VE I'VE RUN IT OFF OF JUST A FORMULA IN EXCEL, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT PUTS IT BACK.

I WAS RUNNING THIS IN MY PROGRAM FOR SIZING, AND, YOU KNOW THE REAL DEAL.

YEAH. WHEN I GO INTO THE MARKET, I DON'T USE EXCEL.

I'VE GOT ANOTHER PIECE OF SOFTWARE, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS RUNNING THIS IN.

SO WHAT I DID TO BUT I WAS.

I HAVE A STATIC NUMBER, BUT YOURS IS MOVING.

AND THE LAST ONE YOU GAVE ME, I WAS ABLE TO REPLICATE IT PRETTY FAST, BUT THIS ONE I CAN'T REPLICATE BACK TO IT.

SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD.

IF IT'S DEPENDENT UPON INTEREST, YOU KNOW, DEPENDENT, THE PAYMENT SCHEDULE WOULD BE A LITTLE OFF, WHICH WOULD DRIVE THE SCHEDULE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

RIGHT? IT'S PRETTY IT'S PRETTY CLOSE WHEN I DO AN EXCEL NUMBER.

WHAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING HERE, THOUGH, IS AT THE TOP THERE.

I'M DOING THE 10,000,500.

THAT'S OUR DEPOSIT TO CONSTRUCTION.

WHAT I DO IN MY PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING IN EXCEL.

AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO REPLICATE IT.

YEAH, YOU'D GO IN CIRCLES.

YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE COST OF ISSUANCE.

OKAY. AND THE COST OF UNDERWRITING.

RIGHT. SO.

OKAY. YEAH. SO THERE'S SOME MISSING COSTS THERE.

GOOD. YEAH. THE OTHER THING IS, LET'S SAY WE ISSUE THE 4 MILLION, OR WE GET A LOAN FOR 4 MILLION, BUT WE DON'T USE IT ALL, OR WE DON'T NEED IT ALL.

LET'S SAY SOME OF THE COSTS GETS REIMBURSED BY FEMA.

WE HAVE THAT EXTRA MONEY SITTING THERE.

ARE THERE STRINGS TIED TO THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW? FOLLOWING THE SAME KIND OF INS PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE, WHERE IT'S IN THE DEBT, IT'S IT GOT TO BE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OR WHAT? YEAH, THERE THERE ARE DEFINITELY STRINGS ATTACHED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE PUT TOGETHER AND WORKED PRETTY HARD ON GETTING TOGETHER THE, THE LIST OF EXPENDITURES.

RIGHT. SO LIKE THE 2,000,930 THAT'S SPENT, THAT'S OUT THE DOOR.

RIGHT. YOUR FINAL PASS, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT OF THE ASSORTED UNCOVERED COSTS.

I GUESS IF YOU DECIDED NOT TO REPAIR SOMETHING, THEN YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

THAT GENERAL REC CENTER OR GENERATOR FOR THE REC CENTER.

PRE-STORM OCCURRENCE.

THAT'S THOSE THE PRE-STORM OCCURRENCE AND THE DEBRIS REMOVAL.

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YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S DONE MONEY.

WHERE YOU RUN INTO ISSUES IS FROM A TAX LAW STANDPOINT YOU'RE PRETTY LIMITED IN WHAT YOU CAN DO.

OKAY. YOU CAN DO A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.

BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE REALM OF THE NOTICE THAT THAT JONATHAN FRELS PUT TOGETHER.

AND I THINK WHEN WE TALKED TO HIM, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT, AND I THINK IT WAS ON THE CALL THAT HE HE WAS KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WAS SAYING, WELL, COULD WE USE THIS, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE STREETS.

NO, NO, THAT WAS NOT ANYTHING THAT WE COULD USE THE MONEY FOR.

AND FROM THE TAX LAW STANDPOINT, WE SQUEEZE THIS DOWN, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAD IN HERE A LARGER FIGURE AT ONE POINT BECAUSE I WAS GOING, WELL, SOME OF THESE EXPENSES ARE UNKNOWN.

WHAT IF WE COME AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A CONTINGENCY.

AND IN TALKING WITH TAX ATTORNEY, IT'S LIKE, NO, YOU YOU'RE GOING TO BE RESTRICTED WITH THAT MONEY AND YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE TO USE IT ON INTEREST AND AND YOU'D HAVE TO USE IT WITHIN THE FIRST THREE YEARS.

SO WE DO HAVE BECAUSE OF THE WORKING CAPITAL NATURE OF THE MAJORITY OF THIS MONEY, OUR HANDS ARE PRETTY, ARE TIED PRETTY TIGHTLY.

SO WE DON'T WANT SURPLUS.

WE REALLY DON'T.

WE WANT TO SPEND IT ON ON THESE ITEMS OR STORM RELATED ITEMS. WELL, I WAS GOING FOR WAS THE GRAPPLER.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING OF.

THE THING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR FROM FEMA.

BUT IF WE DIDN'T, WE WENT OUT AND BOUGHT OUR OWN.

AND BECAUSE WE HAD THE EXTRA SURPLUS, COULD WE USE IT FOR THAT, WHICH IS FOR DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT I THINK WOULD FALL UNDER WHAT JONATHAN WROTE.

SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU COULD YOU COULD DO.

BUT THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO ANSWER.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF.

YEAH. NO I GET IT.

AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND A VERY GOOD POINT.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A STATE LAW ISSUE, NOT A FEDERAL.

BUT I WON'T ANSWER FOR HIM.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE YOU KNOW THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY. SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALWAYS CHRISTMAS WHEN YOU COME, YOU KNOW. WELL UNTIL YOU GET THE BILL.

GET THE BILL? EXACTLY WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT MID-JANUARY.

SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT AND ISSUE THIS, YOU ISSUE IT WITH THE TIMING WHERE THE FIRST PAYMENT IS NOT DUE UNTIL 2026, BECAUSE YOU'RE USING THE ZINS RATE THAT YOU ADOPTED TO PAY FOR THE EMERGENCY NOTE FIRST.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BUDGET IN THE NEXT YEAR WITH THE DECLINING EXISTING DEBT SERVICE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN A PRETTY GOOD POSITION FALLING OFF IN 2029 TO KEEP OUR HINES RATE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE PRETTY STANDARD AND ACTUALLY FALLING, ALTHOUGH WE WOULD PROBABLY ISSUE MORE DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

YEAH. THAT'S YOU'VE YOU'VE ENCAPSULATED IT.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I WOULD SUGGEST.

WELL ALL OF THOSE REASONS.

ONE LET'S SEE WHAT FEMA IS.

LET'S PAY DOWN THE EMERGENCY NOTE AND GET OUT FROM UNDER THAT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

AND YEAH, JUST KIND OF STRUCTURING AROUND IT.

YEAH. BUT THERE'S NO ACTION TONIGHT. CORRECT? I GUESS YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF THE THE FINAL STEP.

WE'VE KIND OF BEEN YOU KNOW, GOING AROUND ON THIS.

WE NOW HAVE A SIZING.

WE HAVE ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

IT TAKES TIME, RIGHT, FOR US TO CIRCULATE, YOU KNOW, GET OUR DOCUMENT PULLED TOGETHER, GET IT OUT TO BANKS.

I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER.

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I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD PULL IT OFF TO THE FIRST ONE.

I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE IS THAT 2 OR 3 WEEKS FROM NOW, IF IT'S THREE WEEKS TO OUR FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SWING IT AND BE BACK WITH BIDS.

BUT I'M LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE AMOUNT WE WANT.

GO GET IT.

SO IF WE'RE IF IF Y'ALL AREN'T THERE YET, THEN LET ME KNOW WHAT INFORMATION YOU NEED TO TO GET THERE AND MAKE THAT DECISION.

YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IT WE GIVE THE PURCHASERS A COUPLE WEEKS TO LOOK THROUGH THIS SO THEY CAN GET THROUGH CREDIT COMMITTEE, ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE THEN COME BACK WITH THE WITH THE RESULTS FOR YOU TO TAKE ACTION AND AWARD, AND THEN IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. RIGHT. SO IF WE DON'T DO THIS UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER, YOU'RE NOT GETTING FUNDS UNTIL PROBABLY SOMETIME RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

AND, YOU KNOW, JONATHAN HAS SAID, HEY, THE AG BECAUSE THEY'RE EMERGENCY NOTES, IT GETS PRIORITY.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN IT GETS IN, IT GOES TO THE FRONT OF THE LIST.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE FOURTH QUARTER IS JUST JAMMED AT THE AG'S OFFICE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.

ON WHEN YOU WERE EXPECTING TO HAVE THE MONEY.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

AND SO YOU CAN JUST TELL ME IF Y'ALL ARE THERE OR YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT AND YOU'LL TURN ME LOOSE AFTER NEXT MEETING.

OR YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER INFORMATION YOU WANT TO SEE.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

WE'RE ALL SAD ABOUT THE SITUATION WE GOT INTO WITH ALL THIS DEBRIS AND THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER REALLY, REALLY, REALLY CHEWS ON ME AS TO GO INTO DEBT TO PAY FOR THAT.

YOU JUST. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE ARE LESSENING THE BUYING POWER OF THE THE AD VALOREM TAXES THAT WE COLLECT FROM.

FROM JOHN Q TAXPAYER.

AND I GET NEARLY AS MUCH FROM THE FOR THEIR MONEY BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GIVE THE BANK BACK THIS INTEREST MONEY.

THE SOONER WE GET THIS THING PAID OFF.

THE BETTER WE CAN GET BACK INTO NORMALCY.

WELL, AND I CAN YOU KNOW, WE CAN AMORTIZE THIS AT A HIGHER RATE THAN THAN 470,000.

IF YOU IF YOU WANT YOU KNOW, SO Y'ALL CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IS A FASTER AMORTIZATION.

THEN YOU KNOW, I CAN TRY AND GET IT BACK TO THE THREE YEARS AND JUST SEE WHAT IT WOULD, WHAT IT WOULD MAYBE COST TO DO THAT OR.

IF MAYBE.

I'M SORRY. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED THIS, AND I PROBABLY DID.

IF WE WERE TO TAKE ACTION AND GO THROUGH WITH THIS, HOW LONG WOULD IT BE BEFORE THE FUNDS HIT OUR BANK ACCOUNT? IT ALL GETS DOWN, I THINK, BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

RIGHT. I THINK WE'D HAVE IT BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE CALENDAR TO SEE.

DO WE HAVE THREE WEEKS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING? RIGHT. THAT WE WE'D HAVE TO MOVE REALLY FAST ON OUR PART.

AND THEN WE WANT THE BANKS OR INSTITUTIONS TO HAVE TWO WEEKS TO LOOK AT IT, IF POSSIBLE.

I'M JUST I MEAN, THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE WAS TO SECURE THIS, THIS THIS NOTE, THIS LOAN WAS TO HELP US STEM THE COST THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING BECAUSE OF STORMS AND OTHER MATTERS.

AND IF IT'S JUST THIS MAYBE A KIND OF OBVIOUS, BUT IF WE DON'T GET IT INTO OUR BANK ACCOUNT SOON, SOON ENOUGH, WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING THAT.

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YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE EXPOSING OURSELVES TO RISK.

AND SO ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WE'RE SOMEHOW ABLE TO CARRY THAT UNTIL THE CHECKS START COMING IN, I THINK IT'S USUALLY SAY, JANUARY.

WHAT IS IT YOU EXPECT YOUR PROPERTY TAX LATE DECEMBER, JANUARY? OKAY. AND THEN DO WE REALLY NEED IT.

YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S ANYWAY.

YEAH. BUT THAT'S JUST TO RUN THE BUDGET.

THAT'S NOT BUILDING THE FUND BALANCE TO PROTECT OURSELVES.

BASICALLY, WE'RE TAKING OUT INSURANCE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STILL ON TARGET TO DO.

AND I'M ALSO CHECKING WITH THE DATE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE THAT'S ROUGHLY 6 TO 7 WEEKS INTO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.

ANYWAY, JUST SOME THOUGHTS IN MY HEAD.

WELL, AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED YOU IS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, YOU COULD GET A FEMA CHECK THE END OF THIS WEEK.

RIGHT. AND THEN WE JUST DOWNSIZE IT.

WHAT YOU WOULD BORROW.

BUT WE JUST WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THOSE WHEN THOSE MONIES WILL BEGIN TO COME IN.

I WOULD SAY I WOULD PREFER THE FIVE YEAR NOTE, BECAUSE IF SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS, ANOTHER HURRICANE COMES IN ANOTHER STORM.

I DON'T WANT TO OVERCOMMIT THAT WE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY SOMETHING TO HAVE TO GO GET ANOTHER LOAN.

I THINK FIVE YEARS WOULD BE BETTER THAN THREE YEARS.

AND I'M WITH CECIL.

AND IF WE CAN DO MORE, WE DO MORE.

AND TRUE, WE CAN ALWAYS PAY MORE SIMPLE INTEREST, DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO GET IT PAID DOWN.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF SPECULATION IN HERE.

AND YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT'S. YEAH, IT'S IT'S IF WE HAVE IT OUT WITH A FIVE YEAR MATURITY AND YOU CAN ALWAYS LEVY MORE AND PAY IT OFF QUICKER, OR IF YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE BONUS OF YOU KNOW, THE FEMA MONEY COMING IN EARLY YOU MAY BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE ISSUE THE CEOS, WE COULD CARVE OUT YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE APPLYING MORE TAXES TO THE NOTE TO GET IT AMORTIZED FASTER, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, THAT CASH FLOW IS JUST, YOU KNOW, MY GUESS HOW I WAS FEELING AT THE TIME, I WAS IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER AND PLUGGING THINGS IN AND KIND OF GOING, WELL, WHAT IF THIS WHAT IF THAT, WANTING TO NOT SPIKE YOUR TAX RATE, RIGHT, BECAUSE OF THIS, TO KEEP IT AT THE 470.

BUT IF Y'ALL ARE LIKE WE'LL SPIKE OUR TAX RATE NEXT YEAR TO TO GET OUT FROM UNDER IT, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET THE FEMA MONEY IN AND SEE WHAT OUR VALUE IS, THAT WE'RE WILLING TO SPIKE IT.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO THAT, TOO.

ALL I WAS LOOKING AT WITH A STRUCTURE IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE OUT THIS LONG FOR A FINAL MATURITY.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO MY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS DON'T SPIKE THE TAX RATE, BUT YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SPIKE THE TAX RATE.

RIGHT. BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT YOU HAD TO.

WELL, AND I THINK WE CAN I THINK WE CAN PROCEED WITH, WITH AN AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE THIS.

AND THEN IF WE DETERMINE IN THE FUTURE THAT, THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, RELIEVE OURSELVES FROM THE FROM THE DEBT SERVICE THAT WE'VE TAKEN ON, THEN THAT'S THAT'S DEFINITELY A, AN APPROACH THAT WE CAN TAKE.

SO COUNCIL DO I HAVE ACTION.

SO I MEAN, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR FOR PROCEEDING WITH THE.

WITH THE NOTICE AS IT'S STRUCTURED NOW FOR THE MILLION 63,000.

4,063,000.

THAT'S. SECOND.

SO THAT'S A MOTION, RIGHT? YES.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SARTIN, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS TO PROCEED WITH THE EMERGENCY NOTE IN THE AMOUNT OF 4,063,000 OVER FIVE

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YEARS AS STRUCTURED AND PRESENTED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. JOE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 20.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DECISION PACKAGES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 BUDGET.

[20. Discussion and possible action on decision packages to be included in the Fiscal Year 2024-2025 Budget.]

AT 1035 AT NIGHT.

AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING YOU REPRESENTED THE BUDGET AND YOU TOLD US TO ADD THINGS BACK IN, AND YOU WANT US TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE SPREADSHEET THAT'S ON THE BOARD.

NOW, IS THE RESULT OF THOSE CHANGES GOING THE WRONG WAY? YEAH. LARGER YOU WENT, SMALLER OR LARGER? WELL, WE CAN SCROLL.

THERE YOU GO.

SO REVENUE DIDN'T CHANGE.

REVENUE DID GO UP SOME BECAUSE WE MOVED THE WE DID A TRANSFER INTO THE GENERAL FUND FROM AROUND 11 TO TO FUND THE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT.

SO THAT INCREASED OUR REVENUE.

SOME OUR EXPENSE.

OUR EXPENSES DID GO UP BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I ADDED BACK ABOUT $58,000 OF EXPENSES.

THAT INCLUDES $4,000 FOR ANGLETON UNIVERSITY.

THAT INCREASED THE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT UP TO A TOTAL OF 20,000.

ADDED 15,000 BACK IN FOR THE FIRE TRUCK MAINTENANCE.

AND THEN I ADDED ABOUT $19,000 FOR A PART TIME EMPLOYEE AT 20 HOURS A WEEK FOR THE CODE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT TOTALED TO $57,851.

THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDED IN HERE.

AS OF WITH THIS, WITH THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE, WE'RE SHOWING AT THIS POINT, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE OUR FUND BALANCE BY ABOUT $124,000.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE LONG LIST OF DECISION PACKAGES THAT WE'RE WE CAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO STICK SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING FUND SOME OF THEM, BUT NOT VERY MANY AND NOT VERY MUCH.

RIGHT. HOW MUCH HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH? 124,100, 24,000.

SO DID YOU FACTOR IN THE 75,000 TO FINANCE THIS EMERGENCY NOTE? NO, I DID NOT.

THAT SO THAT WOULD TAKE THIS OUT OF THAT.

SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 50,000 TO WORK WITH.

IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE LONG. SO DID STAFF DO ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS OR.

I ASKED A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT THE ESD MONEY GOING INTO THE REVENUE.

DID THAT GET AT IT? YES, SIR.

IT DID. ALL RIGHT.

AND THE REASON WHY I ASK YOU IS BECAUSE ON THE PACKAGE OR ON THE BUDGET TO THE PACKAGES, I DON'T SEE ANY CHANGE IN THERE.

I KNOW THAT ESD IS A SEPARATE STORY, BUT WHAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT FUNDING FROM FUND 11.

DID WE PUT THE ABLC MONEY IN THERE AS WELL AS ADDED REVENUE? YES, SIR. THE ABLC MONEY IS IN THERE AS WELL.

OKAY.

CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN, PLEASE? THANK YOU. AND THE ISSUANCE OF THAT DEBT HAS TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE NO SIDE.

NO. WE MET.

I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INCLUDE IT IN THE IN THE DEBT ISSUANCE AND THE DEBT ISSUANCE ITSELF.

THE FINANCE SIDE. YES.

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I THINK I'LL HAVE TO TALK TO OUR TO JOE ABOUT THAT TO BE SURE.

BUT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, CHRIS? I MEAN, IF WE CAN WE'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT.

OKAY. SO WE HAD A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAD AS A PACKAGE BROUGHT TO US DURING BUDGET.

ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT I REMEMBER US APPROVING WAS STEWART'S LAWNMOWER.

THAT WAS ONE OF THEM THAT WE HAD SAID YES TO.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION? NO, I DON'T, BUT WE'LL TAKE IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO BE A PERSON, TRYING TO STICK TO WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD.

WELL, AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE BROUGHT IT TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO THE LAWN MOWER AND THE TRAILER.

SO WE HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY CREW OF THREE.

SO THE TRAILER CURRENTLY ONLY HOLDS TWO OF OUR ZERO TONS.

SO WE HAVE A CREW.

THAT ONE GUY IS JUST DEDICATED TO A WEED EATER RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT IS WHY LAST YEAR AND ALSO THIS YEAR IT IS OUR NUMBER ONE AND TWO PRIORITY IN THE PARKS DIVISION.

OKAY, SO I GOT TO PUT YOUR BACKUP MOWER.

AT THIS POINT WE HAVE A MOWER WITH YOU KNOW IT'S LEAKING OIL WE'RE HAVING TO FILL.

SO IF WE CONTINUE TO PUSH THIS BACK, IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE AND PUT US BEHIND ON MAINTENANCE.

SO IN YOUR CORNER WE HAVE THE LAWN MOWER AND THE TRAILER.

YES. PUBLIC WORKS.

SO SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE $50,000.

CORRECT. SO I BELIEVE THE BEST THING, THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY COMES CLOSE TO THAT, OUT OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAD LISTED, WAS THE ASSISTANT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATOR THERE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY TO BE ALL THE SUCCESSION PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WAS A MAINTENANCE TECH POSITION THAT WE'RE INCREASING TO THAT AND THAT IS A 40,000, $43,000 INCREASE.

SO THAT FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE AMOUNT WE HAVE.

BUT I DON'T THINK ANYTHING ELSE.

WHY CAN'T YOU FINANCE THAT GRAPPLING TRUCK? IT'S $370,000 TO BE FINANCED.

OVER HOW MANY YEARS? SEVEN. I THOUGHT SEVEN YEARS.

YEAH, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T WRITTEN DOWN.

THAT'S 350,000.

THAT'S 50,000 A YEAR.

OVER SEVEN YEARS.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SAY WE NEED.

WE CAN ORDER THAT IN ADDITION TO DOING THE REMOVAL RATE FOR THE NEXT STORM.

I PUT IT ON YOUR END.

YOU WERE LOOKING FOR FINANCING THE EXCAVATOR AND THE CAMERA? YEAH. THERE WAS QUITE A.

WE HAD FIVE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.

WE WERE LOOKING AT FINANCING.

THOSE WERE THE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO I.

CORRECT, CORRECT. AND WE WERE GOING TO FINANCE THE 180,000 OVER 5 OR 7 YEARS, AND THEN ANOTHER 119,000.

OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONE.

THAT'S THE EXCAVATOR COST AND THEN THE CAMERA COST.

CORRECT. YES. BUT THE DECISION WASN'T MADE LAST TIME.

LAST TIME TO TO ACT ON ANY OF THAT.

RIGHT. IT WAS JUST A DISCUSSION.

THERE IT IS. YEAH.

SEVEN YEARS.

THE. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE LOADER OR THE EXCAVATOR? THE LOADER. RIGHT.

THE EXCAVATOR WAS THE EXCAVATOR? YES. EXCAVATOR WAS $186,000 OVER SEVEN YEARS.

FINANCES 33,000 A YEAR.

THE LOADER IS $24,000 A YEAR ON SEVEN YEAR NOTE.

THE CAMERA WAS 28,000.

JUST FOR REFERENCE. YEAH.

AND OUT OF THE GRAPPLER IN THE FRONT END LOADER.

I MEAN, THE GRAPPLER TRUCK WOULD.

WE'D GET THE MOST BENEFIT OUT OF IT IF YOU WERE TO PICK BETWEEN THE TWO.

THEY'RE BOTH PIECES OF DEBRIS REMOVAL EQUIPMENT, BUT GRAPPLER TRUCK WOULD BE OF MORE USE FOR TRUCKS NOT OUT PICKING UP DEBRIS.

WHAT'S IT GOING TO DO? NOTHING. IT'S WHAT IT'S BUILT FOR.

TO PICK UP DEBRIS? YEP.

SO IT'S WITH THE GRAPPLER TRUCK.

IT'S UTILIZATION ISSUE.

YEP. IF YOU DON'T.

IF YOU DON'T USE IT, IT'S SITTING OVER THERE.

WE'RE PAYING FOR SOMETHING. CORRECT? YES. ONLY GOOD. ONLY GOOD.

DURING A STORM, BASICALLY.

I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A DIFFERENT ATTACHMENT ON THE ON THE FRONT.

YOU CAN MAKE IT A.

THAT WAS ON THE THE FRONT END LOADER.

THE FRONT END LOADER. YEAH. IT HAS ALL THE HYDRAULICS AND DIFFERENT KNUCKLES ON THERE.

I MEAN YOU CAN PUT ALL KINDS OF ATTACHMENTS ON THERE.

AND THE EXCAVATOR, YOU CAN DO THAT WITH AS WELL.

I MEAN THERE'S TONS OF DIFFERENT THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH IT.

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WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE AT THIS POINT? I'D HAVE TO. I'D HAVE TO SAY THE EXCAVATOR, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OUR SMALLER OUR SMALLEST EXCAVATOR THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S A REALLY SMALL EXCAVATOR, BUT IT'S ON ITS LAST LEG.

I MEAN, WE'RE AT THIS POINT, WE'RE PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO IT THAN WHAT IT'S WORTH.

SO THAT'S GOING TO PUT US WHEN THAT FINALLY GOES DOWN.

I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO PUT US A WHOLE CREW WITHOUT AN EXCAVATOR.

SO.

AND CAMERA WOULD BE SECOND, CAMERA WOULD BE SECOND.

SO I MEAN, TO ME BOTH OF THOSE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT OUT OF ANYTHING.

SO I THINK I BELIEVE I EXPLAINED THE CAMERA SITUATION IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ONE CURRENTLY.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, MOST MOST OF THE THINGS WE DEAL WITH ARE UNDERGROUND AND WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TO VIEW THEM.

HOW MUCH WAS THE TRAILER AND THE MOWER? THE MOWER WAS 13.5.

THE TRAILER WAS 7200.

YEAH, IT WAS ABOUT 20,000 TOTAL.

RIGHT? YEAH.

SORRY, MEGAN. APPRECIATE IT.

SO WE HAVE A 124,000.

WE TAKE 20. WE GOT 104.

LET'S SAY I THINK YOU'RE AT 50.

WELL, I THINK WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THE $50,000.

THE BOND ISSUANCE COST THROUGH THE INS SIDE.

BUT THAT'S A QUESTION THAT PHIL'S GOING TO HAVE TO GET WITH FROM JOE.

I'M TEXTING JOE RIGHT NOW.

PUT A REMOTE START ON HIS CAR AND TURN IT OFF WHEN HE.

CAN. THAT EXCAVATOR MAKE IT ONE MORE YEAR TO GET YOU THE CAMERA? WE CAN. WE JUST MAY HAVE TO PUT SOME MONEY INTO IT AT SOME POINT THIS YEAR.

WHEN, YOU KNOW WHEN IT HAS ANOTHER FAILURE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON IT.

SO I THINK THE SO WHEN WE SAY THE GRAPPLER AND WE TALK ABOUT THE LOADER, AREN'T THEY THE SAME PIECE OF EQUIPMENT? NO. SO THE GRAPPLER IS THE TRUCK THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS THE ENTIRE OPEN BED ON IT, AND THEN IT HAS THE BASICALLY A BIG CLAW ON THE BACK TO PICK UP DEBRIS LOADED IN.

YEAH, IT'S THE GRAPPLER TRUCK IN THE FRONT END LOADER.

IS IS EXACTLY THAT A FRONT END LOADER WITH JUST AN ATTACHMENT THAT CAN.

LAKE JACKSON? YES, EXACTLY.

YEAH, THAT'S THE FRONT END LOADER.

SO YOU'LL STILL NEED A DUMP TRUCK DRIVER.

BRUSH TRUCK DRIVER FOLLOWING AROUND THAT UNIT VERSUS THE GRAPPLER TRUCK.

IT'S JUST A ONE MAN SHOW.

YEAH, SO I WOULD PUT THE GRAPPLER.

IN MY KNOWLEDGE, I REALLY THINK THERE'S A VERY, VERY STRONG THAT IT WILL GO THROUGH THE FEMA SIDE OF THINGS.

I DO TOO. SO I WOULD YES, MY MY ENCOURAGEMENT TO YOU IS THAT THE GRAPPLER WILL FALL IN ON THE OTHER SIDE AND THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WITNESS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

STUART'S ALSO LETTING ME KNOW THAT HEY, HE NEEDS TO COME OVER AND SPEAK FOR HIMSELF.

TELL HIM TO GET OUT OF HIS ROBE.

HEY, HE'S LISTENING TO THIS MEETING AT HOME, AND IT IS ALMOST 11.

OKAY. SO HE REALLY NEEDS THE MOWER.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO OPT OUT OF THE TRAILER SO THAT WE CAN HELP PUBLIC WORKS OUT SO WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.

DOESN'T THAT STOP YOU FROM HAVING A CREW? NO, YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRAILER.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO.

I WAS JUST TALKING TO JASON ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO.

WHATEVER TRAILER THAT YOU'RE USING CURRENTLY.

TRY TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY KIND OF TRADE IN VALUE FOR THAT, TO REDUCE THE COST AND FIGURE OUT.

I MEAN, IF WE CAN REDUCE THE COST EVEN A LITTLE BIT, WE WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE TAKING IT OUT OF EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET.

BUT YOU WANT THE MOWER. THEY NEED THE MOWER.

OKAY. WE ALREADY SAID WE'D GIVE THEM THE MOWER TOO.

SO GIVE THEM THE MOWER.

I NEED TO ADD ONE MORE WRINKLE THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW.

THAT YOU MISSED REVENUE.

EXCUSE ME? THAT YOU MISSED REVENUE.

SO WE HAVE MORE? NO, SIR.

I WISH, BUT ANY KIND OF A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR THE EMPLOYEES WE HAVE.

SO JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AND.

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WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THAT? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S HAS NO NUMBER.

YEAH, I HAD A NUMBER.

OH, YOU MEAN PERCENTAGE WISE? NO, IT HAS NO VALUE.

I EIGHME COUNCIL.

SO AT THIS POINT, 55, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEEN ADDED TO THE BUDGET IS THE STEP INCREASES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THE STEP PLAN, AS YOU KNOW, YOU PASSED LAST YEAR, JUST LIKE YOU SAID.

SO THAT IS IN THERE.

YES, SIR. IT IS.

OKAY. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE IT IN THERE? SCROLL BACK UP. IT SAYS KOBE TWO FOUR, SIX.

OKAY. IF WE GO WITH A 5% INCREASE, A135 LIKE WE HAD LAST YEAR, THE 5% INCREASE ON OCTOBER 1ST WOULD RUN 58 462 58 OR 62 FOR 5% FOR ANYONE EARNING UNDER 40,000 A YEAR. IF WE GO HOW WE HAVE DONE BEFORE AND WE GIVE ANYONE A LITTLE BIT.

I HAVE ALSO LISTED HERE 58 104 58 564564.

IF WE GO WITH 3% FOR ANYONE WHO EARNS BETWEEN 40 AND 60.

IF WE DO THAT ON TEN ONE, THAT'S ANOTHER 61.720.

LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, WE ACTUALLY GAVE THOSE INCREASES ON APRIL 1ST.

SO THAT FIGURE WOULD BE HALF OF THAT 38.60.

AND THEN ANYBODY EARNING OVER 60 RECEIVED A 1% HALF OF THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AGAIN APRIL 1ST WOULD BE ABOUT 15,000.

OKAY, GIVE ME THE THREE.

THREE DIFFERENT PIECES AGAIN.

THE FIRST ONE WAS THE ONE.

THREE, FIVE. THE ONE THREE, FIVE.

THAT'S THE SCENARIO WE'RE PRESENTING 58 AT OCTOBER 1ST.

YES. YES.

CORRECT. BUT THE THREE YOU'RE PROPOSING APRIL 1ST, THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE GIVEN THAT INCREASE ON APRIL 1ST.

IF WE WANT TO GIVE IT ON TEN ONE, THE FIGURE IS 761 720.

WHAT'S IT IN APRIL IF WE DO IT IN 1860? YES, THAT'S FOR EVERYONE.

LESS THAN 60. THAT IS ANYONE BETWEEN 40 AND 60.

40 AND 60.

HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE? UNDER 40. BESIDES PART TIMERS.

ANY. FULL TIME.

UNDER 40. YES.

OH, YES. OKAY.

ABOUT 30 PEOPLE.

32 PEOPLE.

IT'S ACTUALLY 38 ALTOGETHER.

FULL TIME? YES.

FULL TIME. OKAY.

JUMPING BACK TO THE OVER 60.

OVER 60.

WE'VE GIVEN A 1%.

TWO. HUM.

WE'VE GIVEN THAT ON APRIL 1ST.

IF WE GAVE IT ON TEN ONE, IT'S 31 810.

SO HALF OF THAT ON APRIL 1ST.

SO YOUR YOUR SECOND GROUP THE 40 TO 60.

THAT EXCLUDES PEOPLE UNDER 40 RIGHT.

OR DOES IT INCLUDE THEM IN THERE? I'M SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE.

THE SECOND GROUP THAT YOU GAVE ME WAS BETWEEN 40,000 AND 60,000.

YES. DID YOU EXCLUDE THE PEOPLE UNDER 40,000? YES. SO THEY DIDN'T GO? THEY WOULDN'T GET ANYTHING IN THIS CASE IF WE JUST.

THAT'S A 3%, RIGHT? YES. THEY WOULD.

THEY WOULD GET A FIVE AND THEN THE 40 TO 60 WOULD GET 3% MAKING BELOW 40.

SO IF YOU'RE MAKING BELOW 40 YOU WOULD GET A 5%.

IF YOU'RE MAKING BETWEEN 40 AND 60 YOU WOULD GET A 3%.

THAT'S HOW WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

LET'S JUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME CYCLE TO BE 1ST OCTOBER.

WOULDN'T LIKE TO BLOW IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE BUDGET FOR IT.

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I MEAN, YOU COULD PROBABLY DO IT IF YOU JUST WENT WITH SOME FLAT FIGURE.

I'D HAVE TO BE LIKE 1 OR 2%.

I MEAN, IN MOST IN MOST AREAS THAT I'VE DONE, IT'S NOT THE CITY, BUT WE GENERALLY SAW OUR BONUSES, COST OF LIVING PERFORMANCE INCREASES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM.

RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR.

THAT IS PRETTY STANDARD.

WE DO OURS AT THE END OF THE FIRST, BUT.

YEAH. AND THEN YOU SEE IT.

YOU SEE IT? YOU SEE IT EFFECTIVE GENERALLY IN APRIL.

YEAH. BUT THEIR FISCAL YEAR YEARS ARE DIFFERENT, WHICH WOULD BE BASICALLY JANUARY 1ST FOR THEM.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU GET ONE QUARTER UNDER YOUR BELT TO SEE HOW YOUR HOW THE BUDGET IS PLAYING OUT. ANY BIG THINGS.

AND THEN YOU MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS ON JUST ACROSS THE BOARD? 2%. I DON'T, BUT I CAN GO RUN THEM FOR YOU.

KEEP IN MIND, THESE INCREASES ARE ONLY FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN TIME AND POSITION FOR ONE YEAR, AT LEAST ONE YEAR.

CORRECT. SO IF YOU WERE JUST HIRED A FEW MONTHS AGO, YOU WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED.

CORRECT. AND THIS WOULD EXCLUDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? THAT IS CORRECT.

RIGHT.

I THOUGHT SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS WENT AHEAD AND ADDED THEIR NUMBERS AND.

DID THEY GET TAKEN BACK OUT? JAMIE? I KNOW I LEFT MINE IN.

YOU DID LEAVE YOURS IN? YEAH. YOU LEFT IT IN.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER.

I REMEMBER SOMEBODY SAYING THAT IT HAD IT IN.

SO IT'S ALREADY BUILT IN THE BUDGET IN SOME PLACES.

ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE IS THAT THOUGH? THREE. OKAY.

EVERYBODY HELPS.

THREE, IN JAMIE'S BUDGET.

EVERYBODY ELSE NODDED. RIGHT.

I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW.

OKAY. CAN YOU RUN THE NUMBERS FOR 2%? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. FOR EVERYBODY.

OCTOBER 1ST. WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT.

SO. TONY PARKS.

PUBLIC WORKS.

WHAT DID WE AGREE ON, HECTOR? OLGA'S POSITION OF 43,000.

OR OLGA'S BACKUP.

SORRY. IT SOUNDED LIKE EXCAVATOR TO ME, BUT THAT'S WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.

BUT IF IF WE DON'T.

IF AGAIN, IF WE DON'T GET THE EXCAVATOR, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WE COULD LOSE THE EXCAVATOR THIS YEAR.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ISSUE.

BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE POSITION TOO.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, OLGA LEAVES IT.

LET'S JUST SAY THEN YOU HAVE NO ONE THERE, YOU LOSE ALL THAT KNOWLEDGE.

KNOWLEDGE WALKS OUT THE DOOR WITH HER.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXCAVATOR, THE PURPOSE OF GETTING THE BIGGER EXCAVATOR WAS.

SO THAT WAY WE COULD TRY TO TACKLE SOME LARGER JOBS.

RIGHT? SO IF IF IT WAS DESIRED, WE COULD SCALE BACK THE SIZE OF THAT EXCAVATOR.

BUT JUST KNOW THAT THAT THOUGHT OF DOING BIGGER THINGS JUST WOULD NEVER BE LIVED.

BUT. ONE THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCING, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO MAKE A PAYMENT.

THAT'S TRUE THIS FISCAL YEAR.

YOU'RE RIGHT. SO THAT PAYMENT WOULDN'T COME AROUND UNTIL AFTER OCTOBER 1ST OF NEXT YEAR? THAT'S RIGHT. BUT IT WOULD COME OUT OF THE TAX RATE.

YES IT WOULD. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT.

I FORGOT. SOUNDS LIKE THE ANSWER RIGHT THERE, THEN.

I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT WRONG.

YEAH, IT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN BUILD INTO THE BUDGET.

I MEAN, WE ARE GOING TO SADDLE OURSELVES WITH THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT YEAR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS EQUIPMENT THAT'S SORELY NEEDED.

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IF YOU DID THE LOADER, THE EXCAVATOR AND THE CAMERA 85,000 ANNUALLY.

SO. LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

IF YOU GET THE LOADER, DO YOU NEED THE GRAPPLER? BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN GOT WARM IN HERE OR VICE VERSA.

I'D PREFER THE GRAPPLER.

YES. BECAUSE AGAIN, FOR ME, THE GRAPPLER IS A ONE PERSON JOB.

YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON CAN GO OUT AND DO AND DO THAT, YOU KNOW, DURING A DEBRIS TIME OR PICKUP AFTER A STORM.

ONE PERSON GO AROUND TO DO THE FRONT END LOADER.

WILL YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE FOLLOWING THEM IN A TRUCK? SO IT CAN ALL BE ALL THE DEBRIS CAN BE PUT IN THERE.

SO I'D SAY GRAPPLER OVER THE FRONT END LOADER.

YES. OKAY.

CHIEF, YOU GOT ANYTHING ON YOUR WISH LIST? I.

TRY TO KEEP IT 40,000 OR LESS.

I MEAN, HE SAID.

THAT THEY'RE ALL THE DECISION PACKAGES, SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE UNDER 40.

AND AND WE NEED MORE PERSONNEL.

I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY GAVE A PRETTY GOOD RAISE TODAY AS WELL.

SO CITY IS GROWING.

YES, SIR. WE'RE NOT.

THE TASER REPLACEMENT DOES HAVE AN OPTION FOR 47 TO 44 PER YEAR.

IT WAS NUMBER FOUR ON THE LIST.

WHAT WAS IT? TASER REPLACEMENTS.

THE TASER REPLACEMENT? YEAH, THAT'S WITH THE PAYMENT.

YES. IT'S A PAYMENT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

IT'S ANOTHER LEASE. FINANCE? YES. YOU COULDN'T DO THAT.

WELL, YOU COULDN'T DO HALF OF IT.

OH, WE COULD DO IT LIKE YOU'RE.

THAT IS EQUIPPING EVERY OFFICER WITH A NEW TASER, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, COULD YOU DO HALF NOW? YOU STILL HAVE TASERS, RIGHT? WE STILL HAVE TASERS, BUT THEY'RE OVER TEN YEARS OLD.

AND LIKE I PUT IT IN THE IN THE DECISION PACKAGE RIGHT THERE, THERE'S THERE'S LAWS THAT THE STATE HAS TOLD US WE HAVE TO HAVE LESS LETHAL WEAPON. SO THEY'LL WORK.

TASERS WILL STILL WORK.

THE ONES THAT WE HAVE.

SO. I CAN DEMONSTRATE.

TERRY VOLUNTEERED. THAT'S RIGHT.

BUT THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF THE OFFICERS WITH THE STEP PLAN.

THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT.

YEAH. AT LEAST TRY TO KEEP THE ONES THAT ARE STAYING.

I WANT TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO GIVE YOU SOME EQUIPMENT IF WE CAN GET IT.

ARE YOU GOING OUT FOR ANY GRANTS? YES, SIR. WE TRY TO GET ANY GRANTS THAT WE CAN.

ARE YOU ACTIVELY OFF ON ACTIVELY RIGHT NOW? NO, SIR. NO, SIR.

OKAY. OKAY.

WHAT ABOUT THE VEHICLES? VEHICLES? WE'RE.

WE GOT THREE VEHICLES COMING, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT FOUR MONTHS OUT.

WE STILL HAVE.

WE STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW THAT THAT ARE AGING AND OLDER THAT WE OWN EVERY DAY.

YEAH. SO.

THE WHEN WE GET TO THE VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE TWO OF THEM THAT COST US MORE THAN IT, THAN IT DOES TO KEEP.

I MEAN, THEN IT'S WORTH WE DON'T KEEP IT.

IT'S NOT WORTH THAT SAFETY FACTOR FOR YOUR LIVES AND OUR OFFICERS LIVES.

SO WE TAKE IT OFFLINE.

SO WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS JUST TAKE MORE OR LESS, TAKE MORE OF THE TAKE HOME VEHICLES AWAY, BECAUSE MOST OF THE OLDER VEHICLES ARE TAKEOVERS.

THAT'S HOW THEY'RE SURVIVING, RIGHT.

SO BUT IF IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S IT COSTS TOO MUCH TO FIX IT OR IT'S NOT, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

WE TAKE THOSE POLICE VEHICLES OFF.

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AND THOSE THREE VEHICLES THAT YOU ALL APPROVED, WE TALKED I TALKED TO MR. CAMPBELL TODAY FROM ENTERPRISE, PROBABLY LOOKING AT DELIVERY AROUND MARCH AND THEN GET THEM EQUIPPED ANOTHER 3 OR 4 MONTHS. SO IN JUNE.

JULY? YES, SIR.

WE'RE ALREADY OVER IN OUR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET THIS YEAR.

ARE YOU ON STAFFING? WE'RE DOWN FOUR.

WE JUST HAD ANOTHER RESIGNATION TODAY.

GOING TO BEL AIR AND THE OUTPUT IS FIVE.

WE HAVE 1 OR 2 THAT EXPERIENCED OFFICERS THAT WANT TO COME.

WE STAND. OR ARE WE GOING TO SEND A CONDITIONAL TO ONE OF THEM? EITHER WE SEND IT TODAY OR WE'LL SEND IT TOMORROW.

YOU SPOKE BEFORE.

DO YOU THINK AFTER THE NEW YEAR AND SOME CHANGES IN POLITICAL POSITIONS, THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS? WOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT APPLICANTS, BUT MAYBE VACANCIES ON OUR PART.

OH, YOU THINK YOU MAY LOSE SOME? YES, SIR. OKAY.

I WAS KIND OF HOPING THE OTHER WAY AROUND WOULD SHAKE UP.

I HOPE SO. MAYBE SOME OF THOSE FOLKS.

I DON'T WISH NOBODY TO LOSE THEIR JOB.

BUT YOU KNOW, RIGHT, THAT THEY'RE PAYING MORE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A FEW CHANGES, SIR.

THERE WILL BE A FEW CHANGES OUT THERE.

THERE WILL BE SOME FEW CHANGES. YES, SIR.

OKAY, WE'LL MAKE DO WITH WHAT WE GOT.

THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO BRING BACK IN, CHRIS.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE.

YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AT 530 IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT IT COULD BE ONE LINE ITEM EACH MONTH, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT AND WHERE WE'RE AT BY EACH DEPARTMENT AND WHETHER THE NEEDS, ANY ACTIVE FUNDING, ANY GRANTS, WHERE ARE WE AT AND MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT TACKLING.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME? THANK YOU COLLEEN.

SO AT 2% ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THOSE UNDER 40 WOULD BE 33, 103, 40 TO 60 WOULD BE 41 654, AND OVER 60 WOULD BE 54 762.

ALL IF THEY ALL STARTED ON TEN ONE OR.

40.

HOW MUCH IS THE 40 TO 60? 41. SIX.

FIVE. FOUR.

THAT'S 65,000.

IF YOU STARTED IN ON APRIL 1ST WITH PARKS 20 AND PUBLIC WORKS 43, THE 124 COMMITTED.

THAT LEAVES US 61,000 LEFT.

SO WE ARE RIGHT THERE.

3000 OVER.

I THINK WE COULD DELAY THE PUBLIC WORKS POSITIONS SO YOU COULD SAVE SOME MONEY THERE.

MEGAN SAYS SHE DOESN'T NEED THE TRAILER IMMEDIATELY, SO THAT'S 7000.

YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK THERE.

YOU COULD GIVE.

YOU'VE GOT SOME WIGGLE ROOM THERE.

YOU COULD DO THE UNDER 40,000 OCTOBER 1ST, OR YOU COULD DELAY THEM TO JANUARY 1ST.

AND GIVE THE REST IN APRIL.

COUNCIL WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS.

WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCING IS IT POSSIBLE TO FINANCE THEM OVER IN TRAILER SO THAT THE PAYMENTS DON'T HIT? OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET THAT.

LIKE, WHAT'S THE LIFESPAN ON THAT MOWER? FIVE YEARS. OH, GOSH.

I HESITATE TO SAY WE DO LIKE DAILY PPM, THOUGH.

SO, I MEAN, YOU HAVE SOME MOWERS.

THE ONE THAT'S ON ITS LAST LEG.

WE'VE HAD IT FOR MAYBE SEVEN YEARS.

[03:15:05]

I THINK IT WAS SEVEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE IS ACCURATE.

BUT YES, STUART SAYS 5 TO 7 YEARS.

THANK YOU. STUART. YEAH.

I'M WILLING TO BET KING RANCH WILL SEND YOU OUT OF THERE WITH A MOWER AND A TRAILER.

I ANSWER. TRY TO TRY TO PAY IT OFF IN 24 MONTHS.

YEAH, WE WE DON'T DO MONTHLY PAYMENTS VERY WELL, I DON'T THINK.

I THINK WE'RE MORE OF AN ANNUAL PAYMENT.

WELL, YES, BUT I'M SAYING WITHIN TWO YEARS.

YEAH. WELL, IT'S OUR TIME TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS HERE.

COUNCIL. SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO.

I HAD ONE QUESTION FOR HECTOR.

YOU DO REALIZE THAT THIS NEW EXCAVATOR IS 21,000 POUNDS? YES. AND HOW DO YOU PLAN TO HOLD THAT? WE HAVE A GOOSENECK TRAILER THERE ON SITE, AND WE ALSO HAVE THAT THE DUALLY TRUCK WITH THE GOOSENECK CONNECTION.

SO WE HAVE A TRUCK TO PULL IT.

OKAY.

I'D SAY YOU HAVE.

YOU CAN DELAY THE PUBLIC WORKS POSITION SLIGHTLY.

IT CAN BE DONE IN A YEAR.

YOU CAN SAVE.

YOU CAN SAY YOU HAVE ABOUT 65,000 TO WORK WITH ON PAY RAISES.

SO. THE PUBLIC WORKS POSITION IS ACTUALLY IN THE IT'S IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND.

IT'S A UTILITY PART. SO YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT USING GENERAL FUND MONEY FOR THAT POSITION.

OKAY.

SO IF WE DID THE UNDER 40, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST FOR 33,000, WE DID THE 40 TO 60 AND THE OVER 60S OVER AT APRIL 1ST. THAT'S THE TWO TOGETHER IS 81,000.

SO LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN.

YOU DO THE UNDER 40 ON OCTOBER 1ST.

SO IT'S THERE.

EVERYTHING'S AT 2%.

EVERYTHING'S AT 2%. OCTOBER 1ST.

UNDER 40. UNDER 40.

OKAY. BETWEEN 40 AND UP.

YOU DO.

YOU DO IT APRIL 1ST.

AND THE TWO TOGETHER MAKES UP 81,000 IMPACT.

I HATE TO DO THIS.

WHAT WOULD IT BE? 2%. BUT WE WENT TO JANUARY 1ST.

OKAY. THREE QUARTERS OF A YEAR.

YOU TAKE A QUARTER OF THAT OFF, OR B THREE QUARTERS OF THAT 33, 103 FOR THE 40 FOR THE UNDER 40.

IT'S JUST I'M TRYING TO I'M WITH CECIL.

I'D LIKE TO TRY TO GET US A UNIFORM DATE.

AND WORK OUR WAY BACK TO EVENTUALLY GET INTO OCTOBER 1ST.

IT MAY TAKE US A CYCLE OR TWO TO GET THERE.

THAT'S $97,000.

WHICH SHOULD LEAVE YOU $7,000 BECAUSE YOU TOOK OUT THE PUBLIC WORKS POSITION.

YOU HAVE $7,000 TO SPEND.

I WOULD RATHER SEE US GET THE UNDER 40S ON OCTOBER 1ST AND EVERYBODY ELSE APRIL 1ST, EVERYBODY ON OCTOBER 1ST.

WE ARE A VALUABLE RESOURCE.

WE TELL THEM TO KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A RAISE UNTIL APRIL 1ST, BUT THE NUMBERS AREN'T RIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE CHARGING ALL THIS AGAINST THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S TRUE.

NOT ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE GENERAL FUND.

THAT IS TRUE. SO THE NUMBER ISN'T 154.

IT'S SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

[03:20:03]

YES. THE GENERAL FUND.

DOES THE NUMBERS INCLUDE PART TIME STAFF? NO. THEY DON'T I HAVE A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE WHO HASN'T RECEIVED A RAISE FOR THREE YEARS.

OKAY. CAN YOU GIVE US THE NUMBERS ON THAT? YEP. SURE WILL.

I MEAN, WE NEED TO.

ON TIME. IT'S THE LAST BUDGET BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST.

YEAH.

ANYBODY ELSE FROM STAFF HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO PRESENT OR MAKE A CASE FOR? I'VE ASKED ME TWICE. HEY, Y'ALL STAYED HERE.

IT'S 1115. THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT.

AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IN MY DECISION PACKAGE IS IF YOU HAVE A SMALL PORTION OF MONEY, YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT I CAN PURCHASE COMPUTERS WITH. I WOULD GLADLY TAKE WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER TO PUT TOWARDS BUYING NEW COMPUTERS, BECAUSE PROBABLY A BIG PURCHASE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE COMING UP IS COMPUTERS BECAUSE MICROSOFT IS PHASING OUT WINDOWS 10 AND WINDOWS 11 REQUIREMENTS HAVE DIFFERENT HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS.

AND AS ALWAYS, SOME OF OUR COMPUTERS HAVE THEY DON'T MEET THOSE HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE'RE EVENTUALLY WE OUR HAND WILL BE FORCED JUST FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.

SO IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT CONSIDERATION.

WHAT'S THE AVERAGE COST OF ONE UNIT FOR YOU.

EVERY COMPANY HAS THEIR OWN RATES.

YEAH. WITH SOFTWARE YOU'RE LOOKING AROUND 1200 OR SO.

OKAY. YEAH.

SOMETIMES THEIR SALES, WE'VE GOTTEN THEM AS LOW AS 900 BEFORE.

BUT I WOULD SAY ON AVERAGE LATELY IT'S BEEN AROUND 1200.

THAT'S A GOOD COST.

CHIEF MORTON, YOU'VE BEEN VERY QUIET BACK THERE.

AND YOU'VE BEEN HERE THIS WHOLE TIME.

YOU HAVE NOTHING.

I MEAN, WE GOT YOU AND OTIS IN THE BEGINNING ONES, SO.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE TO AGREE AND SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE GOT RECOGNIZED IN THE LAST PASS.

EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE, A PRETTY BIG, BIG ITEMS. AND WHAT? I'D LOVE TO SEE US TACKLE SOME OF THOSE JUST LISTENING TO THESE GUYS.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PRIORITY SHOULD BE.

MOST OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A RESCUE TRUCK THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET A FEW MORE YEARS OUT OF.

SO WE'RE WE'RE SPIT SHINING IT A LITTLE BIT, PUT A LITTLE LIPSTICK ON A PIG, GIVE US A COUPLE OF YEARS ON IT, YOU KNOW.

THE COMMAND UNITS, THEIR OLDER UNITS.

BUT THEY'RE STILL FUNCTIONING.

WE CAN WE CAN MAKE IT ANOTHER YEAR.

WE THOSE HAVE NOT HIT THE THE PROBLEMATIC MAINTENANCE LIST YET.

WE'VE GOT OTHER TRUCKS THAT DO THAT.

SO I SAY WE LET THESE GUYS WORK THEIR PIECE AND WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT Y'ALL NEXT YEAR FOR SOME CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. I HOPE YOUR OFFICE, YOUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE OKAY FROM THE WRECK.

YES, THEY'RE DOING GOOD.

ONES GOING FOR EVALUATION A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IN GENERAL, EVERYBODY'S GOOD.

SO IT'S A ROUGH DAY.

YEAH. YEAH. SO.

AND TYING IT BACK TO KEEP ON TOPIC IS THE.

HOW'S THE UNIT? IS IT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THAT UNIT? WELL, THIS IS NEIL'S INTERNATIONAL VERSION, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE TOTALED.

AND BECAUSE IT WAS A SIDE IMPACT AND THE AIRBAGS DEPLOYED ON THE PASSENGER SIDE, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DEFLECTION ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE WHERE THE FRAME WAS BENT.

PROBABLY. SO WE'RE SPECULATING, BUT WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN THEY LOOK AT IT THURSDAY.

SO OKAY.

HOPE IT ALL WORKS OUT.

YES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL UNDER MUNICIPAL COURT.

I HAVE 5676.

AND THAT WAS TO CHANGE THE TITLE OF OUR COURT CLERK TO COURT ADMINISTRATOR.

BUT I CAN MOVE MONEY AROUND IN MUNICIPAL COURT BUDGET TO TO PROVIDE FOR THAT.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF COUNCIL HAD TO APPROVE THAT WITH ME MOVING MONEY AROUND, BUT I CAN PROVIDE THAT AMOUNT WITHIN MY OWN BUDGET FOR THAT.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER TAKE CARE OF.

YEAH. RATHER THAN US DEALING WITH THE MINUTIA.

RIGHT. OKAY.

[03:25:07]

SO FAR, THE ONLY THING COMING OUT OF GENERAL FUND IS THE PARK'S EQUIPMENT AND THEN FINALIZING THE PAY RAISE.

SO THOSE NUMBERS THAT COLLEEN WAS GIVING YOU, I JUST WENT OUT AND TALKED TO HER.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE FICA OR TRMS, RIGHT? SO I ASKED HER TO ADD THAT TO WHATEVER NUMBER COME OUT.

I NOTICE YOU'VE BEEN VERY QUIET.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? YOU'RE HERE AT 1120.

I MEAN, HE NEEDS $4,000, RIGHT? THE ONLY THING I'VE BEEN TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH IS KYLE'S VEHICLE IS AN OLD VEHICLE THAT'S BEING LEASED.

THEY CONTINUED THEIR LEASE, I THINK, FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

AND IT EXPIRES, I THINK JANUARY.

I DON'T SEE PHIL, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S BEEN IN THE ENTERPRISE NUMBERS IN ANY WAY.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS.

I KNOW WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PINPOINT THE NUMBER SPECIFICALLY TONIGHT, BUT KEEP IN MIND THE ABLC PAYS FOR OR AGREED TO PAY 28% OF PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAY PERSONNEL.

SO THAT INCLUDES ANY RAISES, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT MAYBE ELSIE DOESN'T HAVE ANY EXTRA MONEY EITHER.

YEAH. NOT NO MORE WATERS.

43. COUNCIL.

WHAT'S YOUR POSITION ON IT? GETTING $12,000 FOR THE COMPUTERS.

SO THEY NEED IT. I BELIEVE THEY DO TOO.

I THINK THE STAFF NEEDS IT.

I MEAN. EQUIPMENT'S IMPORTANT.

IMPORTANT EVERYWHERE.

INCLUDING THE COMPUTERS THAT THEY'RE USING.

WHEN IS THAT CHANGE COMING? UP, JASON. 12,000 WOULD GIVE HIM AT LEAST ABOUT TEN COMPUTERS.

HE CAN CHANGE OUT DEPENDING ON IF HE CAN CATCH A SALE OR NOT.

BLACK FRIDAY IS COMING UP.

IT'S OCTOBER 14TH, 2025.

IT'S THE END OF LIFE FOR WINDOWS 10.

IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, THEN THEY'LL START NOW.

START DOWN THE ROAD, HOW MANY? HOW MANY WILL WE ULTIMATELY NEED TO CHANGE OUT? THAT IS ONE OF MY DECISION PACKAGES.

LET ME PULL THAT UP FOR YOU.

I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE 40S.

OKAY, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

ALL RIGHT. SO CHIP OFF TEN THIS YEAR.

MAYBE. AND ROUGHLY, LET'S HAVE THE BALANCE NEXT YEAR.

BE ABLE TO GET MORE DEPENDING ON THE TIMING.

RIGHT.

WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

COME ON. I THINK WE'RE WAITING.

WE'RE WAITING. COLLEEN.

COLLEEN. COLLEEN. YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE CLOCK.

YES. IT'S ACTUALLY 54.

IS WHAT? I HAVE IT. YEAH, IT'S UP THERE.

OKAY. WELL, IF WE GIVE IT THE 12 PARKS, HAS THE 20 FOR THE TRUCK OR FOR

[03:30:02]

THE MOWER IN THE TRAILER, WE HAVE $92,000 LEFT FOR PAY RAISES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, INCLUDING FICA AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S NOT COUNTING WATER AND SEWER AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I THINK, COUNCIL, WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION THAT WE GIVE THEM THE 92,000 AND LET THEM FIGURE IT OUT, THE TIMING AND HOW THAT WORKS.

THAT'S ABOUT ALL WE CAN DO.

UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR GROWING REVENUE AT THE MOMENT.

ANY INCREASE YOUR TAX RATE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL.

DO WE HAVE DIRECTION? I LIKE YOUR IDEAS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FORMAL YOU NEED TO.

ESPECIALLY ON THE.

THE RAISES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN JUST ASSIGN TO THE CITY MANAGER TO ASSESS RAISES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S.

WE CAN.

WELL, AGAIN, IF YOU SPECIFY A DOLLAR AMOUNT, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND TELL YOU IF YOU SAY 1ST JANUARY OR WHATEVER.

AND, AND IT'S IF IT'S AN EVEN ACROSS THE BOARD, IT'S IT'S PRETTY EASY TO DO.

BUT IS THAT FULL TIME.

IS THAT PART TIME IS THAT IT'S EVERYTHING THAT COLLEEN LISTED EARLIER.

THAT WAS ALL FULL TIME, ISN'T IT? THEY HAVE TO BE FULL TIME OVER A YEAR.

WHAT ABOUT JASON? PART OF JASON'S PART TIME PERSON.

THREE YEARS. A PERMANENT, PART TIME STAFF.

I THINK THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL.

IT'S NOT. A LOT CALLING TONIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION, SO NEED SOME HELP AT THIS POINT.

IT'S 1130 AT NIGHT.

I'M TIRED.

COLLEEN. COLLEEN.

HOW MANY PERMANENT PART TIME PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE? ONE. ONE.

THAT'S AN EASY EXCEPTION TO MAKE.

THERE YOU GO. SO, COLIN, WHEN YOU GIVE THE NUMBERS.

INCLUDE FICA AND MS..

I HAVE. SO FOR THE UNDER 40 TO 2% OF THE GENERAL FUND WITH TAMARIS AND PIKE, IT'S 13 149.

AND THAT'S WHAT DATE BEGINNING.

THAT'S TEN ONE. THAT'S AS OF TEN 110 ONE.

THESE NUMBERS ARE AS OF TEN ONE.

FOR THE 40 TO 60, IT'S 31 099.

AND THESE ARE ALL THE GENERAL FUND.

AND FOR GREATER THAN 60 IT'S 37,802.

WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER 37,802.

AND THAT'S ALL STARTING ON TEN ONE.

WELL, THAT'S BELOW YOUR NUMBER, RIGHT.

IT'S 82,082.

YES. SO THERE YOU GO.

AND ADD IN JASON'S PART TIME.

YEAH, THAT THAT WON'T BE OUT LONG.

DO WHAT? IT WON'T BE A LOT.

IT WON'T BE. NO.

SO THERE YOU GO. 2% ACROSS THE BOARD ON OCTOBER 1ST.

THERE YOU GO. SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND. SORRY.

AND WHEN YOU MAKE THAT MOTION, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE IT FOR 12,000? IT FOR 12,000.

FOR 20,000.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S A MOTION.

I THINK WE HAVE A SECOND.

CORRECT. YES.

I'M READY TO GET OUT OF HERE.

ALL RIGHT. I GOT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOWNSEND, A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL TO INCLUDE THE 20,000 FOR PARKS, THE 12,000 FOR IT, AND THE REMAINING 2%. AND THE REST WE'RE GOING TO FINANCE.

WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE BROUGHT BACK TO US.

OCTOBER 1ST.

2% ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE AMOUNT OF AROUND 82,000.

AFFECTING THE GENERAL FUND. THERE'S STILL MONEY LEFT OVER WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[03:35:03]

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

I THINK COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY ONLY COMMENT IS FOR THE STUFF THAT WE WANT TO FINANCE.

[COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL]

WE NEED TO BRING THAT BACK, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.

AND YOU DO HAVE $10,000 LEFT IN YOUR BUDGET.

SO WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE TO LOOK AT FOR RAISES.

YEAH. SO AGAIN, I'LL GET THE ANSWER FROM JOE ABOUT THE 5000.

WHETHER WE CAN ROLL THAT INTO THE NOTE OR NOT.

CORRECT. THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT.

YEP. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? DO WE HAVE TO DO EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT? CAN IT BE TABLED TO THE NEXT MEETING? IT COULD BE TABLED.

THE TERMS END OCTOBER 1ST, BUT WE CAN.

WE CAN TABLE IT.

DO WE HAVE A BUNCH OF APPLICANTS FOR APPOINTMENTS TO.

GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR DO YOU WANT TO TABLE THAT? TABLE IT. IS THAT A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER ROBERTS.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN. TABLE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION NUMBER 21.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

WE WILL ADJOURN AT 1131 AND 25 SECONDS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.