9. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20241210-009 a request to amend the Zoning Map from MFR-29, Multi-family Residential District to LI- Light Industrial District on approximately 2.594 acres for property located at the rear of 105 Cemetery Rd., Angleton, Brazoria County, Texas.

[9. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, and possible action to approve Ordinance No. 20241210-009 a request to amend the Zoning Map from MFR-29, Multi-family Residential District to LI- Light Industrial District on approximately 2.594 acres for property located at the rear of 105 Cemetery Rd., Angleton, Brazoria County, Texas.]

ITEM NUMBER 9, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20241210-009, A REQUEST TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP FROM MFR-29, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 2.594 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE REAR OF 105 CEMETERY ROAD AND ANGLETON, MISSOURI COUNTY, TEXAS. S.

>> THANK YOU, MAN. COUNCIL, THIS IS A REZONING PETITION BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF TOWN ON A CEMETERY ROAD, JUST OFF OF BUSINESS 288B.

THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 2.594 ACRES.

APPLICANT ACTUALLY OWNS THE TRACK THAT HAS THE TWO APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON THE FRONTAGE ALONG CEMETERY.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS YOU STATED, MFR, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL FOR 29 UNITS PER ACRE.

THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM BE BROUGHT TO YOU FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN RV AND BOAT STORAGE LOT TO BE AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS ITEM WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THEIR LAST MEETING, AND YOU SEE THE RECORD IN WHICH THEY UNANIMOUSLY LAID FORWARD THIS TO YOU BY RECOMMENDATION STAFF ON SOME ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE CONCERNS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WERE THE MERE FACT OF THE REQUEST AND THE LI INDUSTRIAL, WHICH WOULD COVER THE DISTRICT FOR THE PARKING REQUEST.

WE RAISED THE NUMBER OF CONSISTENCY ISSUES.

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WE WEIGHED AGAINST THE COMPREHENSIVE LANDS PLAN, WHICH RECOMMENDS SOME FORM OF MIXED USE FOR THE LOT.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE MULTIFAMILY RETAIL OFFICE TYPICALLY.

NOTICE THAT THERE IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALONG BUSINESS 288 ABUTTING THE PROPERTY.

THEN TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS A MINI STORAGE FACILITY.

OF COURSE, TO THE NORTH, THERE ARE SOME OTHER MFR-28 USES AS WELL AS PROPERTY OWNED BY THE AMERICAN LEGION, USE THERE ALONG THE FRONTAGE, WHICH IS VACANT LAND AS WELL, AND THEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL COURTS TO THE NORTH EAST OF THE PROPERTY.

DISCUSSIONS WERE HAD REGARDING HOW WE COULD DO THIS BECAUSE PLANNING COMMISSION GENERALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING, BUT SOME OF THE UNCOMFORTABILITY.

YOU HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY DO GIFT TO USE WHERE THE SALES IN THE FUTURE.

QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT USES IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COULD RAISE SOME CONCERN.

ONE APPROACH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED WOULD BE PERHAPS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY APPROACH, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO PUT SOME STIPULATIONS ON THE CONTROLS ON THE PROPERTY TO DEAL WITH THE ACTUAL USE LIMITING IT TO RV AND BOAT STORAGE.

THEN THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE LISTED IN THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD COVER THE MERE FACT THAT A SITE PLAN WOULD NEED TO BE ATTACHED, THAT WOULD DEAL WITH ANY TYPE OF SITE ACCESS, BUFFERING, DRAINAGE, ANYTHING RELATED TO SITE PLANNING, WHICH WOULD BE SUBJECT TO PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL IN THE FUTURE.

WE ALSO INCLUDED STIPULATIONS A MAXIMUM ON PERFECT SURFACE COVERAGE, BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF A PERMANENT SCREEN.

THEN THEY WOULD HAVE, OF COURSE, DEAL WITH THE ACCESS OF THE CEMETERY ROAD IN A MORE ORDERLY FASHION.

THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE CONCERNS.

WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO JUST OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, HEAR COMMENTS ON THIS AND BETWEEN ME AND LEGAL, WE WOULD PROBABLY ADVISE THAT THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BETTER APPROACH.

THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN MOVE THIS TO A FUTURE ACTION BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU TO DEAL WITH THE REQUEST BY PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT APPROACH.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY AS WELL.

I THINK THEY ARE AMENABLE TO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IF WE COULD DO THIS IN THE MOST LEGAL FASHION.

THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, I WILL DEFINITELY BE HERE TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU, ODIS.

COUNCIL, DO WE WANT TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING?

>> MAKE A MOTION OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR BROOKLYN TOWNSEND AND SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN DANIEL, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CALL TO THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY THE VOTE BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? WE ARE NOW A PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW, AMBER CARTER, YOU FILLED OUT A FORM FIRST, SO YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS AMBER CARTER.

I AM THE REPRESENTATION FOR OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 105 CEMETERY ROAD.

I AM THE ASSET MANAGER.

I'M ALSO A LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER.

JUST WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY TO, OF COURSE, THE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

AS WE KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY IN THE BACK WHERE THE TWO ESTABLISHED MULTIFAMILY UNITS LIE.

IT IS VACANT LAND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO REMOVE ANY BLIGHTED AREAS THAT MAY COME ABOUT.

OF COURSE, IDEALLY, WE WOULD WANT TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY UNITS, UNFORTUNATELY, JUST DUE TO THE COST TO TO BUILD 29 UNITS OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.

WE DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE OR IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY BASED UPON THE COST AND THE RENTAL AMOUNTS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ACHIEVE.

THE SECOND BEST THING, ACCORDING TO OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY WOULD BE THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

LAST CALL. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE ITEM APPROACH PODIUM.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY MAYOR TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> WE ARE NOW OUT OF PUBLIC HEARING.

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>> NOT MENTIONED THAT THE VOTE 6-0 BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDING REWARDED TO YOU FOR FINAL ACTION BASED ON LESS THAN THE TRAP.

THE OWNERSHIP OF THE BOAT RV STORAGE IS THE SAME OWNERSHIP OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

>> CHIEF.

I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

HOW MANY ISSUES HAVE WE HAD AT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX?

>> WE DIDN'T KNEW THE RESPONDENT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX LOT.

>> HOW MANY WOULD YOU VENTURE TO GUESS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS? LAST SIX MONTHS I WOULD GUESS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE TO FIND OUT FOR YOU.

>> ODIS, ISN'T THERE AT RV STORES THAT BACKS UP TO THIS PLACE?

>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

I APOLOGIZE, BUT THERE IS THE MINI STORES TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST.

REGARDING ANY CALLS ON THE PROPERTY, WE A REPORT FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT IN HEALTH.

WE'VE HAD TO, OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY ON SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUES, THEY WERE CONNECTING SEWER LINES AND WHAT HAVE YOU AT ONE TIME, AND THERE WAS SOME FAILURE ISSUES THAT HAVE GONE ON THERE.

THEN ROUTINELY SOMETIMES WE GET SOME MANAGEMENT RELATED CALLS IN TERMS OF THEM BEING RESPONSIVE TO THE TENANTS, FROM HEATING TO VARIOUS MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE PERCEIVED ON THE COV ENFORCEMENT LEVEL.

>> I THINK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE PLANNING ZONING CENTERED AROUND, I THINK YOU ADDRESSED THIS EARLIER.

WHAT POSSIBILITIES MAY BE IF WE WERE TO MAKE THE CHANGE IN ZONING I GUESS THERE WERE CONCERNS.

WHAT IS LEFT OPEN, I SAY YOU MAKE THE RECOMMENDED CHANGE BUT IS NOT IN FACT UTILIZED AS DESCRIBED.

>> AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A HEAVY DISTRICT IN TERMS OF INDUSTRIAL.

ANYTHING INDUSTRIAL WOULD BE ALLOWED AND PERMITTED IN AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, AND ALSO ANY OF YOUR AUTOMOBILE RECORD SERVICES.

AS YOU KNOW, SALVAGE YARDS ARE PERMITTED IN E RETAIL AND WE ARE HOPING TO MOVE SOME USES INTO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THESE ARE YOUR MORE INTENSE USE TYPICALLY.

THAT'S WHY THE APPROACH OF HAVING A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY WOULD BE THE APPROACH THAT WE RECOMMEND WHERE YOU TIED DOWN TO A SPECIFIC USE OF A SPECIFIC PLAN THAT WOULD BE APPROVED, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE HELD TO THAT.

OTHER CONCERNS OF STAFF WOULD BE ANY OVERNIGHT STAYS THAT THIS WILL NOT TURN INTO ANY TYPE OF RV TYPE PARK OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

THAT IS ONE OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS, AND I DON'T THINK THE OWNERSHIP WOULD BE IN OPPOSITION OF THAT.

IS THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT SITUATED BETWEEN THE TWO APARTMENT COMPLEX, IS THAT GOING TO BE AN EASEMENT THAT HAS ACCESS TO CEMETERY, OR HOW WOULD YOU ENTER INTO THIS?

>> THEY OWN THAT FRONTAGE ALL ALONG THERE FROM ALL THREE TRACKS.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE THAT AND APPLY FOR DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS.

WE WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND A SEPARATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS THE COMMERCIAL ACCESS POINT.

IT COULD BE REDESIGNED, I THINK IN A FASHION WITH SOME COMBINED CURVE ACCESS, BUT IT WOULD SPLIT THE OR RIDE IT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

WE WOULD SPLIT THOSE OF THE TWO DRIVEWAYS.

POST PUBLIC WORKS WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON ANY TYPE OF DRIVEWAY PERMITS OR ACCESS AS WELL.

WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT.

>> IS THAT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM?

>> DURING THE SITE PLAN, IF IT IS, OR IF IT WERE, PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DENY THE CONCEPT OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS UNTIL THEY COME UP WITH THE DESIGN BECAUSE THEY COULD ALWAYS RUN IT TO ONE ONE OF THE MULTI FAMILY STRUCTURES AND SOMEHOW REDESIGN THE PARKING LOT FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL USES.

THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A FEW OPTIONS, BUT WE WON'T DESIGN IT FOR.

>> DID YOU PRESENT NOTICE TO ALL THE RESIDENTS OR IN THAT AREA?

>> WE ARE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY ANYONE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE NEWSPAPER POSTING, AND WE DID THAT BOTH TIMES DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT ONE POINT DUE TO LACK OF QUORUM,

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AND WE HAD TO RESEND THE LETTERS OUT.

NO ONE APPEARED IN OPPOSITION.

>> ONE OF THE RECOMMENDED APPROACHES WOULD BE TO HALT THE PROCESS AND NOT TAKE ACTION ON THIS PROPOSAL.

YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF DENYING IT, AND SENDING IT BACK THAT THEY RESUBMIT AS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE ROUTED BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEN YOU WOULD SEE IT IN THE FUTURE AS THAT FINISHED PRODUCT ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED OR ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PLACE ON IT.

>> WE HAVE HEARD YOUR RECOMMENDATION ALONG WITH LEGALS?

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> IT BOILS DOWN TO WHEN YOU DO THE PLANNED OVERLAY, IT'S GOING TO REMAIN MULTIFAMILY.

WHEREAS IF YOU DO THE ZONING CHANGE AND YOU CHANGE IT TO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE CONTROL OVER WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THERE NEXT, SO YOU DO LOSE FAIR AMOUNT OF CONTROL.

APPARENTLY, THE APPLICANT IS OKAY WITH IT.

>> I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT IS AGREEABLE TO THAT.

NOT PICKING ON ANYONE PARTICULARLY.

RECYCLE PLACE, BUT IT'S TOUGH WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH TOWN AND ONE OF THE PLACES YOU SEE IS A BUNCH OF PILE OF SCRAPPED UP METAL.

I HATE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT COME IN BEHIND THESE APARTMENTS.

>> EXACTLY.

>> COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION?

>> I SAY WE COME BACK WITH THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

>> I'LL SECOND MOTION.

>> IS THAT A MOTION?

>> MOTION.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO-TEM TOWNSEND FOR THIS TO COME BACK AS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT?

>> YES, SIR.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS COUNCIL? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

>> DID YOU INTEND TO SKIP EIGHT?

>> YES, I DID. THEN I'M GOING TO JUMP OVER REGULAR AGENDA TO NUMBER 11,

[11. Discussion and possible action to approve the installation of pickleball courts with parkland dedication fees and authorize the City Manager to execute the BuyBoard proposals. ]

DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF PICKLEBALL COURTS WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE BUY BOARD PROPOSALS.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF ANGLETON AND THE ANGLETON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT DID ENTER INTO AN INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT BACK IN 2023 TO FACILITATE REPAIRS ON DOWNING TENNIS COURT, WHICH INCLUDED RESURFACING AND FENCING REHABILITATION.

THOSE HAVE BEEN HIGHLY USED SINCE THEY HAVE OPENED, BUT WE HAVE EXPERIENCE AND DID RECEIVE SOME COMPLAINTS ON CRACKING WHEN STAFF DID AN INSPECTION BACK IN APRIL.

WE SAW THAT THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL PICKLE LINES, I WILL SAY, ON SOME OF THE ADJACENT COURTS WITH TAPE AND ADHESIVE THAT WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY USE ON THAT NEW SURFACING.

THE CITY APPROACHED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT INSTALLING ADDITIONAL PICKLEBALL LINES ON THE REMAINING COURT SINCE IT WAS BEING USED AS SUCH, IN ADDITION TO TENNIS.

BUT SHORTLY THEREAFTER, IN NOVEMBER, WE DID RECEIVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE GULF COAST TENNIS ASSOCIATION AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STAFF REGARDING HOW IT IMPACTS UIL PLAYING.

BECAUSE UIL DOES NOT RECOGNIZE PICKLEBALL LINES AS FOR-SANCTIONED EVENTS.

IT DOES CAUSE AN ISSUE.

WE CAME TOGETHER WITH GULF COAST TENNIS ASSOCIATION AND TRIED TO BRAINSTORM SOME WAYS TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.

WE THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, WHICH IS GOING BACK AND COVERING THE PICKLEBALL LINES AT DOWNING TENNIS COURTS AND DEDICATING FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS AT BATES PARK ON THE EXISTING CONCRETE SLAB ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK.

IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, THOSE HAD BEEN, BUT AT ONE TIME, IT WAS THE ONLY CITY-OWNED TENNIS COURT.

THAT WAS DILAPIDATED, WE REMOVED THE FENCING AND CHANGED IT INTO A PARKING LOT FOR ADULT SOCCER AND FLAG FOOTBALL.

WHILE THOSE FIELDS ARE USED, JUST SITE VISITS THAT I'VE HAD FOR PARK TOURS, WE DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PARKING IN THAT AREA.

THAT MAY ALSO PRIMARILY BE DUE TO THE PATH TO GET YOU BACK TO THAT LOCATION.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER CONVERTING THAT CONCRETE SLAB INTO WHAT WOULD BE BY THE AMERICAN SPORTS BUILDING ASSOCIATION, WE COULD FIT INTO THAT STANDARD FOR FOOTBALL COURTS,

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FENCING THAT WOULD MEET OUR STANDARDS, THE POLES, NETS, RESURFACING WITH THE PROPOSALS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

WE DO ALSO HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION HERE TONIGHT FROM GULF COAST TENNIS ASSOCIATION, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM AS WELL.

>> YEAH.

>> THANK YOU. USTA.

>> YOU GOT A FEW MINUTES, YOU CAN JUMP UP THERE REAL QUICK. COME ALL THIS WAY.

>> MY NAME IS PARRISH GAYLE.

I'M PRESIDENT OF THE GULF COAST TENNIS ASSOCIATION.

ALSO, I HAVE AN ATTENDANCE WITH ME, UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION, CARLA MURRAY AS A REPRESENTATIVE.

AFTER DISCUSSING WITH MEGHAN AND ALL OF THE STUFF ON THE DOWNING COURTS WHEN WE STARTED THIS OVER THREE YEARS AGO, OUR FUTURE GOALS WAS TO BE ABLE TO HOST USTA-SANCTIONED EVENTS ON THOSE COURTS.

WELL, THERE IS A STRICT GUIDELINE AFTER TALKING TO CARLA.

OVER THE YEARS, THAT THEY CANNOT HAVE PICKLEBALL LINES ON TENNIS COURTS, IT VIOLATES THE RULES.

IF IT'S A SANCTIONED USTA TOURNAMENT, IT VIOLATES THAT.

I ALSO CALLED AFTER I SPOKE WITH MEGHAN WHEN THE PICKLEBALL LINES WERE ADDED TO BECAUSE OF THE RISE IN PICKLEBALL PLAYING AND STUFF. WE ALL KNOW THAT.

SPOKE TO UIL AND TALKED TO THEM, THE TENNIS PERSON FOR UIL.

SINCE THEY FOLLOW USTA RULES AND GUIDELINES, IF THE ISSUE CAME UP AND THEY WERE GOING TO HOST A TENNIS TOURNAMENT THERE, USTA JUDGE, WHO IS THE DESIGNATED REFEREE FOR THAT CAN SAY, WE CAN'T HAVE ANY TOURNAMENTS ON THAT.

IF IT'S NON-SANCTIONED, IT'S UP TO A LOSS.

WE'VE GOT THE NARROW VIEW, WHICH IS NO PICKLEBALL LINES, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE BROAD VIEW, WHICH THE DESIGNATED REFEREE CAN MAKE A JUDGMENT AT THAT POINT AND DECIDE.

THAT'S WHAT ME AND MEGHAN SPOKE INDEFINITE ABOUT THAT, ABOUT HOW WE COULD RESOLVE THE SITUATION.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS, THE ONES OVER THERE AT BATES PARK TO MAKE THOSE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

SINCE PLAYING ON THOSE TENNIS COURTS AT DOWNING, THEY'RE LOVELY, THERE HAS BEEN SOME PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE PUTTING THE TAPE DOWN WHEN WE PLAYED THERE AND DID OUR SCHOLARSHIP TOURNAMENT FOR HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS AND STUFF.

THERE WAS TAPE THAT WAS STILL ON THERE, AND YOU CAN'T GET IT OFF.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS OVER TIME WHEN PEOPLE PUT THE TAPE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CERTAIN KIND, IT WILL LEAD THAT THERE, AND IT BECOMES A PROBLEM.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS WE WERE HERE TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE IT ALLOWS PICKLEBALL TO HAVE THEIR OWN LOCATION AND OWNERSHIP OF THEIR OWN COURTS, AND THEN FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND THE SAME THING WITH THE TENNIS COURTS HERE BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL COURTS, THOSE ARE LOCKED, AND THEN STAY LOCKED.

THE JUNIOR HIGH COURTS, WE HAD THOSE REFURBISHED BACK IN 2019, BUT THEY TOLD US JUST LIKE WITH THOSE THAT CRACKING AND STUFF WOULD EVENTUALLY HAPPEN, AND THEY HAVE, SO MAYBE FOUR OUT OF THOSE EIGHT ARE PLAYABLE ONE.

THOSE ARE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY.

BUT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE ISSUES, THERE'S NO LIGHTS, THE PROBLEM WITH THE COURTS ARE DETERIORATING AGAIN.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ARE AT THIS POINT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HER AND FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES BY USTA AND UIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR SCHOOLS APPROPRIATELY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

>> TO BRING YOU BACK TO THE AGENDA, WE DO HAVE FUNDING AND PARKLAND DEDICATION THAT CAN BE UTILIZED IF THE PROPOSALS ARE APPROVED.

FOR CITY MANAGER, EXECUTION, WE'LL HAVE THE VENDOR UPDATE THE DATE OF THE PROPOSAL TO ENSURE IT'S STILL WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.

LOOKS LIKE WE'RE JUST PAST THAT, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT REVISED BEFORE IT IS EXECUTED IF APPROVED, BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

>> I'M JUST MAKING SURE, THE TWO BIDS HERE, ONE IS TO CORRECT [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE PICKLEBALL EXISTING LINES AT DOWNING TENNIS COURTS [OVERLAPPING] AND THEN THE SECONDARY IS TO CREATE FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS, ADD FENCING, POLES, NETS, ETC.

>> OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS READING THAT CORRECT. THANK YOU.

>> HOW MANY COURTS ARE THERE ON DOWNING?

>> WE CHANGED IT TO FIVE.

THERE WAS ORIGINALLY ONE LINE FOR PICKLEBALL.

>> IS THERE STILL CURRENTLY JUST [OVERLAPPING].

>> ALL FIVE ARE CURRENTLY LINED FOR PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT WE COVER ALL PICKLEBALL LINES AT DOWNING COURTS,

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MAKE IT A DEDICATED TENNIS COMPLEX, AND HAVE A DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COMPLEX SO THAT WE'RE NOT EXPERIENCING THE TAPING ISSUES.

THERE'S A HOME FOR PICKLEBALL PLAYERS THAT IS OUTDOOR.

WE TOO OFFER PICKLEBALL AT THE ANGLETON RECREATION CENTER DURING DESIGNATED TIMES.

BUT, AGAIN, YOU DO HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE WANTING OUTDOOR USE.

>> DO WE KNOW WHO PUT THE TAPE OUT ON THE COURTS?

>> NO.

>> WANTS TO STOP SOMEBODY FROM DOING IT AGAIN.

>> HONESTLY, I DON'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER FOR YOU OUTSIDE OF DIRECTING PEOPLE TO THE DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE.

>> WELL, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL IF YOU PUT SIGNAGE THAT ADDRESS THAT THE COURTS ARE TO BE UTILIZED FOR SANCTIONED EVENTS AND THAT THERE IS A DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COURT ACROSS GROUND, AND THAT PUTTING TAPE ON IT IS DEFACING CITY PROPERTY.

>> YES. AS FAR AS POLICING, WE WOULD HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH THAT.

BUT ABSOLUTELY GOOD. MOST CERTAINLY ADD SIGNAGE.

>> SHOULD THE SCHOOL NOT BE POLICING THEIR OWN PROPERTY?

>> I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE SCHOOL TO SPEAK TO.

[LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> IN OUR INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT, WE HELP TO MAINTAIN IT.

>> YOU CAN POLICE IT AND STILL MAINTAIN IT.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> YOU SAY WE HELPED TO MAINTAIN IT OR DO WE MAINTAIN IT?

>> THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE MAINTAIN.

>> I'M JUST CURIOUS. I'M NOT TRYING TO POKE.

COULD YOU ASK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO CONTRIBUTE TO, [INAUDIBLE] $1,200 TOWARDS THE CORRECTION?

>> WE CERTAINLY CAN.

>> IF WE'RE A PARTNER, WE'RE A PARTNER OR WE'RE NOT SURE. I DON'T CARE.

>> DID THE CITY PAINT ANY OF THE PICKLEBALL LINES OUT THERE?

>> YES. ANYTIME WE DO ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENT, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY, WE DO HAVE TO ASK FOR PERMISSION, WHICH WE DID.

>> [INAUDIBLE] THE QUESTION, DID WE PAINT [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE CONTRACTED THEM TO BE PAINTED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> HOW MANY COURTS DID WE PAINT PICKLEBALL LINES ON.

>> ALL FIVE.

>> THERE'S TAPE ON TOP OF WHAT WE'RE PAINTING?

>> NO, SIR. THAT WAS TO CORRECT THE ISSUE OF THEM BEING TAPED.

>> TAPE TO MOVE THE LINES.

>> RIGHT. AGAIN, THE COURTS WERE COMPLETE IN NOVEMBER OF 2023.

WE HAD SOME INPUT IN APRIL OF 2024 THIS YEAR THAT THERE WAS TAPE AND CRACKING AT THE COURTS.

WE INSPECTED, WE SAW THE TAPE.

OUR SOLUTION TO THAT WAS ADDRESSING THAT WITH THE VENDOR.

WE KNEW IT WOULD BE INEXPENSIVE TO ADD PICKLEBALL LINES.

TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DAMAGING AND CRACKING THE COURTS AND SURFACING, WE HAD LINES INSTALLED TO MITIGATE TAPING.

>> HOW MANY COURTS DO YOU NEED FOR A SANCTIONED TOURNAMENT? FOUR, AT MINIMUM?

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT USTA?

>> UH-HUH.

>> IF YOU HAVE A USTA TOURNAMENT [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].

CAN I ADDRESS ONE ISSUE TO MR. BOOTH THAT MAYBE CAN ANSWER THIS [OVERLAPPING].

>> YES, GO AHEAD.

>> THAT'S BEEN THE FORMER CHIEF OF ANGLETON ISD POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I CAN TELL YOU ONE, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS OWNING PROPERTY, CITY USING PROPERTY, WHO PATROLS IT? LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

I CAN TELL YOU OUR AGENCY, WHEN I WAS THERE, IF WE CAUGHT ANYBODY ON THE TENNIS COURTS, WE ASKED THEM POLITELY TO MOVE.

IT WASN'T PICKLEBALL, IT WAS CHEERLEADING, SOFTBALL THAT WAS USED IN THE FENCING.

I CAN TELL YOU BETWEEN US AND ANGLETON PD, WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD ARRANGEMENT THAT IF ANY OF OUR OFFICERS SEE ANYTHING THAT WE KNOW IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THERE, PLEASE ASK THE PEOPLE TO EXIT THE COURTS NICELY.

WE DO THAT. THE SIGNAGE, I CAN TELL YOU FROM A PROACTIVE STANDPOINT, THE SIGNAGE IS HUGE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME GOOD SIGNAGE THAT THIS IS TENNIS ONLY, NO CHEERLEADING, NO SOFTBALL, SOCCER, BICYCLE, SKATEBOARD.

THAT HELPS TREMENDOUSLY.

BUT THERE'S NOT A CRIMINAL ASPECT TO IT.

LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN BE INVOLVED, BUT YOU RUN INTO A CRIMINAL, WE CAN'T CITE ANYBODY OR ARREST OR WRITE TICKETS FOR IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, MR. BOOTH, BUT THOUGHT IT WOULD HELP.

>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

>> I'M CARLA MURRAY WITH USTA OF TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

FOR A SANCTIONED EVENT, TYPICALLY, THEY'RE AWARDED IN BIDS.

IT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN THE YEAR BEFORE.

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FOR EVENTS, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR 20 COURTS TOTAL.

HAVING A VENUE THAT HAS FIVE COURTS AND THEN FINDING THE OTHER 15 ELSEWHERE, THAT WOULD BE TYPICAL.

TRADITIONALLY, THAT'S HOW IT'S BROKEN DOWN.

IF THE COURTS DO HAVE PICKLEBALL LINES ON THEM, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PLAY ANY OF THE SANCTIONED EVENT MATCHES.

>> I WAS JUST ASKING, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, COULD YOU KEEP FOUR AND JUST DO ONE PICKLEBALL OVER THERE? BUT HAVING A BANK OF FIVE, NOW THAT YOU SAY 20, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S HELPFUL.

>> HERE'S MY CONCERN. I'M NOT AGAINST PUTTING THE PICKLEBALL OVER THERE AT BATES PARK.

IT WAS A TENNIS COURT AT ONE TIME, BUT LET'S NOT FORGET THE REASON WHY IT'S JUST A SLAB NOW IS BECAUSE NOBODY USED IT.

IT WAS JUST FORGOTTEN ABOUT, AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT WAS OUR ONLY TENNIS COURT THAT WE OWNED.

NOBODY EVER WENT AND USED IT.

IT WAS TURNED INTO A VOLLEYBALL COURT AT ONE POINT, AND THEN THE FENCES WERE FALLING DOWN.

I JUST DON'T KNOW, WE'RE CHASING A BAD POLICY WITH GOOD MONEY.

I DON'T WANT TO THROW MONEY AT SOMETHING TO TRY TO FIX IT, AND THEN IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO FIX IT.

I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU PUT THAT OVER THERE, AND PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO GO BACK OVER THOSE COURTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE EVERYONE IN THIS CITY KNOWS WHERE THE TENNIS COURTS ARE, AND THEY THINK PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS ARE THE SAME.

I KNOW IT'S NOT, SO DON'T BEAT ME UP, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, WE CAN GO USE THOSE COURTS.

IF THIS COUNCIL THINKS THAT THAT'S AN IDEA AND WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT, I'LL SUPPORT IT, BUT I KNOW THAT IT WAS A PROBLEM IN THE PAST.

WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GO AND REVISIT THAT AGAIN? I DON'T WANT TO WASTE MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE UTILIZED WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED.

YOU SAID THERE'S A PICKLEBALL AT THE REC CENTER?

>> WE DO OFFER PICKLEBALL.

>> AND THE GYM?

>> FIVE TIMES.

>> IT'S USED. I'VE GONE BY.

>> IT IS. JUST TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, I WOULD SAY IT'S EVIDENT THAT PICKLEBALL IS A DESIRED AMENITY.

OTHERWISE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE TAPING.

JUST AS TANNER SAID, IF WE CAN HELP DIRECT THEM TO A DEDICATED LOCATION OR THEY CAN GO AT ANY TIME, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE USE.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE SEEN USE BEFORE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT FACILITY WAS PRIOR TO MY COMING ON BOARD, BUT WHEN I CAME ON BOARD IT WAS NOT A PLAYABLE AMENITY AT ALL.

I THINK THERE'S LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE, I THINK THERE'S ADVERTISING PROMOTING.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP ENSURE THAT THAT THEN BECOMES AN OUTDOOR PICKLEBALL HOME.

WE CAN DEFINITELY PROGRAM AROUND THAT.

IF STAFF IS IN FAVOR, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK WE WOULD BE SOLVING TWO DIFFERENT PROBLEMS, SO I'LL JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THAT.

>> HOW DO YOU GET BACK THERE TO THE BATES PARK SLAB?

>> THERE IS A GRAVEL DRIVE. YES, SIR.

STAFF HAS DISCUSSED WALKABILITY, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS FROM PARKING [INAUDIBLE].

>> I LIKE YOUR ANSWER AS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.

I DO THINK WE NEED TO MAYBE LOOK IN OUR MASTER PLAN OF OUR PARKS TO ADD PICKLEBALL COURTS AT A BETTER LOCATION.

IT'S JUST A HARD TO ACCESS LOCATION.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT PARK.

I SEE PEOPLE WALK IT EVERY DAY.

IT'S A HEAVILY TRAFFICKED FOR WALKERS.

I KNOW IN THE SPRING, NOT SUMMER AS MUCH, SPRING AND FALL, YOU GET A LOT OF SOFTBALL. I DON'T KNOW.

JUST LIKE MAYBE JUST THROWING A BIG PICTURE, LONG-TERM, THIS MAY BE A SOLUTION FOR 4-5 YEARS, BUT MAYBE WITH ABLC AND BONDS AND CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS THAT WE LOOK INTO ADDING PICKLEBALL AT RECREATION CENTER.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

>> LONG TERM. AT THE BACK OF THE FACILITY THERE.

I'M NOT SAYING [INAUDIBLE] PARK, BUT WE DO HAVE SPACES IN SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS THAT WOULD BE AGAIN EASIER TO ACCESS. ANYWAY, FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

>> YES, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I DO WANT TO JUST NOTE THAT, AGAIN,

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AS PARRISH, MENTIONED, WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT OVER THREE YEARS AGO, SO KEEP IN MIND THIS IS THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THIS INSTALLED, IT WAS JUST A RESURFACING JOB, AND IT'S AN ASPHALT TENNIS COURT AT DOWNING.

IF WE WERE TO GO BACK AND CONCRETE, WHICH IS PREFERRED FOR LONGEVITY, WE WERE LOOKING AT MINIMALLY 250,000.

SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND CITY SAID, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE THIS PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO BE A RESURFACING JOB.

TO YOUR POINT, IF WE DO DESIGNATE NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

I DEFINITELY THINK WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING IT, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE THAN JUST A RESURFACE JOB, WHICH IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE.

AS FAR AS COST-WISE AND ADDRESSING THE IMMEDIATE NEED, THIS IS DOING THAT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO HOLD OFF, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, IT JUST WILL IMPACT CURRENT PROGRAMMING.

>> NOW, I'M OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE, SEE HOW LONG.

JOHN MADE A GOOD POINT.

IT SEEMS LIKE PICKLEBALL IS POPULAR, BUT IT COULD BE A FAT.

I DON'T KNOW, AND IF WE DID 4-5 YEARS, YOU MIGHT BUY YOURSELF SOME TIME TO SEE IF PEOPLE ARE CONTINUING TO ENJOY PICKLEBALL OR THEY'VE MOVED ON TO WHATEVER OUR NEXT CREATION OF A SPORT IS.

ANYWAY. THEN YOU CAN EXPLORE WHETHER WE WANT TO MAKE A BIGGER INVESTMENT MAYBE AT A BETTER LOCATION.

>> WHAT UTILIZATION DO TENNIS COURTS EXPECT, THE ONES THAT WE JUST DID COMPARED TO PICKLEBALL? IF YOU GOT PEOPLE GOING AND PLAYING PICKLEBALL OVER THERE NOW, THE RATIO TENNIS TO PICKLEBALL.

>> HONESTLY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT WAY OF TRACKING THAT.

I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE'VE ALREADY HOSTED TOURNAMENTS AND EVENTS THERE, AND BY WE, I MEAN IN COLLABORATION WITH GULF COAST TENNIS ASSOCIATION.

I DO KNOW TOO THAT THE SCHOOL HAS ALSO UTILIZED THE COURTS.

I THINK SHORTLY AFTER THEY OPENED, THERE WAS ANOTHER SCHOOL THAT WAS PLAYING GAMES OUT THERE.

TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, IT WASN'T SCHEDULED, SO WE WERE THINKING, WOW, MAN, THIS IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE.

THEY WERE USED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

>> AS A PARENT OF A TENNIS PLAYER AT LEAST, I KNOW THEY PLAY SU VARSITY TENNIS OVER THERE, SO YOU MAY HAVE THREE OR FOUR TEAMS JOIN ANGLETON HERE AND THEY'LL UTILIZE ALL THE COMPLEXES, INCLUDING DOWNING.

YOU MAY HAVE A TEAM FROM CLUTE MEETING, TEAM FROM SUGAR LAND.

IT MAY NOT BE ANGLETON BECAUSE ANGLETON MAY BE USING THEN REALLY EXPENSIVE COURTS OVER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT SINCE THEY'RE PLAYING ROUND ROBIN THEY'LL SPIN OFF AND PLAY OVER THERE AS WELL.

>> FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE FIVE TOURNAMENT SCHEDULES ALREADY THAT WILL ALSO PLAN ON UTILIZING THE COURTS AS WELL THIS SPRING.

>> COUNCIL?

>> IF WE DON'T GO FORWARD WITH THE BATES PROJECT, COULD WE ADD SIGNAGE ON OUR TENNIS COURTS THAT SAYS, PLEASE DO NOT PLACE PICKLEBALL LINES, WE OFFER PICKLEBALL AT THESE TIMES AT THE REC CENTER TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO PLAY, JUST NOT THERE?

>> YES, WE CAN DO THAT AS AN OPTION, BUT THEY ARE DESIGNATED TIME, SO IT'S NOT AT THE FREE WILL OF ANY PARTICIPANT AND YOU'RE REQUIRING A MEMBERSHIP FOR A DAILY PASS, SO IT'S AT A FEE.

THAT'S A SERVICE THAT YOU MAY BE PREVENTING SOME USERS TO ENJOY.

>> I LIKE THE QUOTE THAT SAYS, NOT INCLUDED LIGHTING.

>> I'M SORRY?

>> IT SAYS NOT INCLUDED LIGHTING.

>> WE DO ALSO HAVE SOME SPECIAL EVENT PROGRAMMING THAT IS CURRENTLY GOING ON AT THE DOWNING COURTS AS WELL, AND THEY CANNOT HAVE THE PICKLEBALL LINES PRESENT.

GULF COAST TENNIS ASSOCIATION [INAUDIBLE].

>> WHAT PROGRAMMING IS THAT?

>> FOR SPECIAL OLYMPICS.

[OVERLAPPING] MY APOLOGIES.

>> LET ME GET INVOLVED.

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ALSO, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHTS AS THEM BEING SANCTIONED USTA TOURNAMENTS, WE CAN NOW APPLY FOR GRANTS THROUGH USTA TO TRY TO GET LIGHTING HERE.

THAT WAS A GOAL.

>> LET ME JUST SAY ONE THING BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS.

IF IT'S GOVERNED BY USTA, PICKLEBALL LINES CANNOT BE ON THOSE COURTS.

IF WE APPLY FOR GRANTS THROUGH USTA, BECAUSE USTA IS PUTTING FORTH THE MONEY FOR IT, PICKLEBALL LINES CANNOT BE ON THIS COURTS.

>> FINE WITH THAT.

>> BUT WE CAN APPLY FOR THE GRANTS IF IT'S USTA CERTIFIED.

>> I THINK THE COUNCIL NOW UNDERSTANDS PICKLEBALL, TENNIS, CAN'T TOUCH. KEEP THEM SEPARATE.

I THINK THE QUESTION BEFORE THIS COUNCIL IS WHAT'S THE ANSWER FOR THE PICKLEBALL, AND DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO SPEND THIS MONEY AND PUT IT AT BATES? DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO, AS MAYOR BROOKLYN TOWNSEND [PHONETIC] SAID, LOOK AT THE THE PLAN AND SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER LOCATION OR SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO SPEND THIS ON? WHICH IS WHAT I SAID AS WELL.

>> WHICH WOULD BE A GREATER EXPENSE.

I JUST WANTED YOU-ALL TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE YOU'D BE BUILDING IT FROM THE GROUND UP.

>> THAT MIGHT BE TRUE. IT'S JUST IF WE HAVE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE IT RIGHT, I'D RATHER DO THAT THAN WASTE THIS MONEY THAT'S JUST GOING TO SIT THERE AND WASTE AWAY, AND THE MAINTENANCE WILL END UP COSTING US MORE.

>> YOU WERE PLANNING ON JUST USING THE BATES PARK FOR PICKLEBALL ONLY, OR WERE YOU GOING TO HAVE PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS LINES ON IT?

>> ONLY PICKLEBALL.

IT'S A REGULATION SIZE SINGLE TENNIS COURT, BUT IF WE CONVERT IT TO PICKLEBALL, YOU CAN GET FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS IN THAT AREA.

>> YOU SAID IT WAS OVER 250,000 TO START FRESH?

>> THREE YEARS AGO.

>> THAT WAS A FIVE AT DOWNING, 250, WAS TO RESURFACE ALL FIVE COURTS?

>> NO, NOT RESURFACE.

THAT WAS IF WE DEMOLISHED.

>> REBUILD.

>> YES.

>> CONCRETE.

>> THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN PUTTING A POT OF FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS.

>> IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

>> THAT'S ONE COURT AS WHAT IT CURRENTLY LAYS OUT AT BATES PARK.

MY MATH IS RIGHT, YOU TAKE THAT NUMBER AND DIVIDE IT BY FIVE.

>> SURE, BUT IF WE HAD THE LARGER FOOTPRINT, WE WOULD PUT MORE PICKLEBALL COURTS THERE.

MEANING MOST MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE INSTALLING PICKLEBALL COMPLEXES ARE PUTTING MORE THAN FOUR COURTS.

>> SURE.

>> COUNCIL, DO I HAVE ANY ACTION ON THIS?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO INSTALL THE FOUR FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS AND FENCING AT BATES PARK.

WHEN THE REMOVAL OF THE PICKLEBALL LINES AT DOWNING TENNIS COURTS WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE BUY BOARD PROPOSALS FROM A VENDOR.

I WOULD ALSO ASK, MAYBE THIS HAS TO BE DONE A SEPARATE ITEM BECAUSE IT'S NOT PRICED, BUT OUT FOR SIGNAGE TO BE INCLUDED.

>> WE CAN DO THAT OPERATIONALLY.

>> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR BROOKLYN TOWNSEND AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SARTON [PHONETIC] FOR APPROVAL OF BOTH QUOTES AND USE THE MONEY FROM PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE SIDE?

>> [INAUDIBLE] IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEAR [INAUDIBLE] SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS [INAUDIBLE]

>> CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED?

>> NAY.

>> AYE.

>> PASSES.

>> LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY.

COUNCIL IS GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:47 PM TO DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 2,

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. NEVER MIND.

ITEM NUMBER 3, DISCUSSIONS CONCERNING THE APPOINTMENT,

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EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 CITY ATTORNEY.

WE WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:48:20.

EVERYONE READY? WE'RE BACK ON.

WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:41:44.

ANY ACTION ITEMS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK NOW IN ORDER.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS,

[8. Conduct a public hearing, discussion, update, and possible action on the proposed City of Angleton Comprehensive Fee Schedule as related to the User Fee Study. ]

ITEM NUMBER 8, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, DISCUSSION, UPDATE, POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED CITY OF ANGLETON COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE AS RELATED TO THE USER FEE STUDY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I AM JUST HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON WHERE WE ARE ON THE FEE SCHEDULE.

WE ARE CONTINUING TO MEET WITH THE CONSULTANT TO REFINE SOME OF THE COMPARISONS ON THE PART SIDE IN WHICH WE ARE TARGETED TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IN THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY AS WE CONTINUE THIS ISSUE, AND THEN HOPEFULLY IN THE JANUARY MEETING, WE'RE HOPING TO BRING THE FINAL CODIFIED ORDINANCE WITH ALL OF THE SECTIONS, MAKING THIS A COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE WITH ALL OF THE FEES.

IN YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU REQUESTED THAT WE WOULD COME BACK WITH YOU WITH A COLUMN OF JUSTIFICATION FOR SOME OF THE CHANGES ON FEE ON FEE PROPOSALS.

THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AND THE DOCUMENT ON THE SCREEN, WHICH IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA WOULD ACHIEVE THAT.

BECAUSE SOME OF THE FEES THAT SHOW SLIGHT INCREASES AS COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA, AND OUR JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT HAD TO DO WITH EITHER SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, SUCH AS ENGINEERING, REVIEW, AND OTHER PROCESSING FEES, ADVERTISEMENT FEES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW AND OTHER PREPARATIONS FOR AS YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESSES.

WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THAT DOCUMENT, PROVIDE US WITH SOME LEVEL OF RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IF YOU FEEL THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL FEES ARE TOO HIGH OR THE COMMERCIAL FEES ARE HIGHER THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT COMPARED TO OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, WE'RE OPEN TO THOSE ADJUSTMENTS BY PERCENTAGE OR BY DEFINITE NUMBERS OF WHATEVER YOU THINK.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED MUCH FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL, BUT WE'RE HOPING BY THE TIME WE REACH THAT JANUARY THRESHOLD THAT YOU WOULD PROVIDE [NOISE] THOSE COMMENTS TO CITY MANAGER CHRIS WHITAKER AND MYSELF.

WE WILL INCORPORATE THOSE CHANGES, WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT OVERALL, STAFF FEELS THAT THE SUGGESTIONS ARE COMPARABLE TO SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

SOME OF THE FEES SUCH AS SIGNAGE.

WE HOPE THAT WITH PROCESSING ADMINISTRATIVE FEES THAT IT WILL BRING US TO SOME LEVEL OF COMPARISONS TO THE MARKET BECAUSE THOSE FEES ARE AT A VERY LOW LEVEL.

THEN OTHER FEES THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PROCESS HAVE TO DO WITH ZONING AND VARIANCES FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, BEING SUCH A LOW THRESHOLD IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WE PUT IN TO PROCESS.

I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION.

THIS DOCUMENT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU HAS THE JUSTIFICATIONS.

IF YOU NEED MORE DETAIL, WE'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE DETAIL.

BUT THE IDEA, AS I STATED, WITH THIS PROCESS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS FOLLOWING THESE PROCEEDINGS AND CAN PROVIDE INPUT.

WE'VE MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, WE'LL CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO THEM FOR ANY INPUT, BUT WE DID RECEIVE A LOT OF INPUT OVER EMAIL, AND WE HAVE INCORPORATED SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? HOPEFULLY, THIS DOCUMENT IS A LITTLE MORE HELPFUL.

I WILL SAY THAT WE PRESENTED ANOTHER DOCUMENT BEFORE YOU THAT SHOWED THE COMPARISONS AND YOU REQUESTED THAT IT BE BLOWN UP AND MORE READABLE, BUT THERE WERE CHALLENGES THERE.

I REACHED OUT TO IT AND ALSO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WHEN WE WORKED WITH THE DOCUMENT.

I ASSURE YOU, IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN YOU MANY FIELDS IN THE SPREADSHEET TO DISPLAY IN SUCH A WAY.

WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU UTILIZE THE TOOLS ON THE ATTACHMENTS AND BLOW IT

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UP AND MOVE ABOUT IN A PENNY MOTION TO SEE ALL OF THOSE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.

ARE THERE ANY MORE INPUTS OR DIRECTION YOU WANT TO PROVIDER US AT THIS TIME? IF NOT, AS I STATED, IF YOU WOULD JUST SEND THOSE TO US, AND THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE THE RED MARKS AND PROVIDE THOSE IN THE NEXT MEETING.

>> NOTICE DEANNEXATION.

>> DEANNEXATION?

>> NOT ANNEXATION BUT DEANNEXATION.

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A FEE FOR THAT.

>> WE WOULD AGREE RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SOME PROCESSES PRESCRIBED BY LAW, WHICH LEGAL CAN HELP US WITH THAT PORTION.

BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME THINGS THAT THE CITY SECRETARY DOES, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL DO AND THEN, AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF SERVICE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS, SO WE DO HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FEES THAT ARE ATTACHED IN THIS RECOMMENDATION.

BUT WE WILL CARRY THOSE OVER INTO THAT LINE ITEM AS WELL.

>> IS THAT A YES, YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A COST TO IT? [LAUGHTER].

>> YOU SHOULD SEE ANNEXATIONS IN HERE, WHICH WOULD MEAN [OVERLAPPING].

>> ANNEXATION, DEANNEXATION IS ZERO.

>> THIS SHOULD NOT BE ZERO.

>> THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY POINT.

ANNEXATION IS A DIFFERENT STORY.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME INTO THE CITY.

BUT THESE GUYS THAT ARE TRYING TO DEANNEX THE PROPERTY AROUND US?

>> YEAH. THAT MIDDLE COLUMN HAS SOME FEES ON THE ANNEXATION, WHICH YOU SEE THERE, THE 500 PLUS THE CONSULTING EXPENDITURES.

THE FEES ARE ADDED IN THERE.

THE MIDDLE COLUMN IS THE PROPOSAL, AND I THINK THE FIRST COLUMN IS YOUR EXISTING FEE.

SO YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE EXISTING FEES.

BUT I'LL LOOK CLOSER AT THAT.

THAT'S A COST THAT YOU NEED TO INCUR.

>> BECAUSE ANY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANNEXATION, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERING THOSE AS WELL.

>> YES.

>> COUNCIL, DO WE WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT HIM TO LOOK AT THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW OFF TOP OF YOUR HEAD? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN [OVERLAPPING]

>> MAKE A MOTION OF OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TOWNSEND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DANIEL. SHE JUST BARELY BEATS YOU.

TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

WE ARE NOW IN A PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THIS PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

>> I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT.

>> WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING WHERE WE'LL TAKE ACTION AT THAT TIME.

[INAUDIBLE] IF THERE'S ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM NOW.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE MOVING. [LAUGHTER]

>> HOW SHOULD THAT BE PAGE FOR THE DNA SESSION.

SO PEOPLE CAN FOLLOW ALONG

>> TOP OF PAGE 360.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS ONE IS ON.

NOW, IS IT ON THREE? THAT'S FINE.

>> GOING BACK TO REGULAR AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 10, THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF THE PROGRESS AND TIMELINE OF

[10. Update, discussion, and possible action of the progress and timeline of the expedited Wastewater Treatment Plant Improvements Project by Schneider Electric. ]

THE EXPEDITED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT BY SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC.

>> HERE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MATT LOMBARDO.

YOU GUYS MOSTLY HAVE SEEN DEBORAH JONES REPRESENTATIVE MIT.

OF COURSE, SHE COULDN'T BE HERE FOR A FAMILY EMERGENCY.

BUT SHE WILL BE AVAILABLE AGAIN AND STILL WORKING WITH YOU.

THEN BRIAN POTTINGER IS OUR PROJECT DEVELOPMENT MANAGER OF PROJECT YOU'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL TIMES.

TODAY IS JUST AN UPDATE ON THE EXPEDITED PLANT PROJECT DEVELOPMENT WE ARE WORKING ON CURRENTLY WITH THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

BRIAN, WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.

I WANT TO KEEP YOU UPDATED ON ALL THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING THE ADMINISTRATION WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON INTERNALLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THAT.

WE HAVE TIMELINES, THINGS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

THERE'S THINGS ON THE CITY COUNCIL SIDE AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION SIDE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TIMELINE THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, OUR INTERNAL DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE FOR BUILDING THIS PROJECT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED GOING INTO DEVELOP BEFORE.

SO I'LL LET BRIAN GO THROUGH ANYTHING, AND YOU GUYS PLEASE ASK ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE.

>> YOU GO TO THE NEXT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I JUST WANTED TO START OFF WITH AN UPDATE ON HOW WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING THE PROJECT.

WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT MEETINGS SET UP WITH DIFFERENT CADENCES, AND THE ONE THAT HAPPENS THE MOST IS A WEEKLY MEETING WITH MY PROJECT TEAM TO GO OVER THE STATUS OF OUR DELIVERABLES AND THE DEVELOPMENT TASK THAT TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON.

TWICE A MONTH, WE MEET WITH CITY STAFF OVER TEAMS TO GO THROUGH AN UPDATE ON NEW ISSUES,

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HOW THE PROJECT IS PROGRESSING, ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.

IF ANYBODY FROM CITY COUNCIL OR MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THOSE, THE INVITATION IS OPEN TO BE PART OF THAT.

IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT AND HOW THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG.

THAT'S THE WEDNESDAY AFTER CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, TWICE A MONTH.

THEN MONTHLY, WE SUBMIT A STATUS REPORT TO CITY STAFF THAT HAD AN UPDATE ON THE TASKS THAT WERE COMPLETED IN THE PAST MONTH, ACTION ITEMS COMING UP.

ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS COULD BE ANSWERED BY JUST REVIEWING THAT REPORT MONTHLY TO SHOW OUR PROGRESS ALONG WITH THE TIMELINE OF WHAT THE UPCOMING TASKS WILL BE.

WE SUBMIT THAT TO STAFF.

ANYBODY, CITY COUNCIL OR MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO GET ON THE DISTRIBUTION LIST FOR THAT.

THEN WE CAN ADD YOU GUYS TO THAT MONTHLY UPDATE AS WELL.

THEN WE HAVE SOME IN PERSON MEETINGS WHEN WE START AN IGA PHASE, USUALLY AT THE MIDDLE OF AN IGA PHASE, AND THEN WHEN WE END AN IGA PHASE WITH THE DELIVERABLES FOR THE CITY AND REVIEW, THOSE ARE ALL IN PERSON HERE.

THE NEXT MEETING OF THAT TYPE WILL BE IN FEBRUARY TO DELIVER OUR FINAL DELIVERABLE FOR PHASE 2 OF THE IGA.

AND IF ANYBODY FROM CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO BE PRESENT AT THAT MEETING, WE CAN SHARE OUT THAT INVITATION WHEN WE SET THE DATE THE DATES BEEN SET FOR THAT, BUT IT SHOULD BE TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY.

>> SLIDE.

>> PROGRESS TO DATE. THIS IS HISTORY OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

WE WRAPPED UP PHASE 1 OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS A TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT TO WHITTLE DOWN THE TECHNICAL OPTIONS.

WE STARTED WITH SIX DIFFERENT MEASURES.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PLANT, AND BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM CITY STAFF, WE KIND OF ARRIVED AT THREE OF THOSE THAT WERE MOST IMPORTANT.

TWO OF THEM WERE UPGRADES TO THE AERATION SYSTEM, WHICH HAS BEEN THE ROOT CAUSE OF SOME OF THE ALLEGED VIOLATIONS FROM TCEQ.

THEN THE THIRD OPTION IS UTILIZING EFFLUENT WATER FOR PLANT WATER PROCESS USES WITHIN THE PLANT.

THAT WILL OFFSET A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CITY WATER USE THAT CAN BE USED FOR CITIZENS AND RATE PAYERS TO OFFSET CONNECTIONS.

YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS TO THE CITY WATER SYSTEM.

BY SHIFTING THOSE CONNECTIONS FROM THE WATER USED TO THE CITY TO THE WATER AVAILABLE FOR THE CITIZENS, THAT CAN PUT OFF ANY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT MAY BE NEEDED.

BASED ON THE GROWING SIZE OF THE CITY.

THAT WAS IN FEBRUARY, WE WOULD LIVE DOWN TO THOSE THREE CMS ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES.

IN MARCH WAS THE FIRST NOTICE OF ENFORCEMENT FROM DCDQ FOR, ALLEGED VIOLATIONS IN 2023.

THEN IN APRIL, AS A RESULT, COUNCIL VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE UNDER FOR IGA PHASE 2 AND PHASE 3.

THEN IN MAY, THERE WAS ANOTHER LETTER FROM THE EPA FROM THE MAYOR ABOUT THE SAME ALLEGED VIOLATIONS IN AUGUST.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE APPROPRIATION OF $500,000 TO PAY FOR PHASE 2 AND PHASE 3, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE KICKED OFF PHASE 2 OF THE IGA IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH WILL BE DELIVERING THE FINAL DELIVERABLES FOR THAT IN FEBRUARY.

THEN RECENTLY NEAR THE END OF OCTOBER, THERE WAS ANOTHER TCEQ SITE INSPECTION WHERE THE REPORT THAT CAME OUT OF THAT SITE INSPECTION.

HAD A FEW ADDITIONAL ALLEGED VIOLATIONS THAT HAD OCCURRED IN 2024 DURING SOME MAINTENANCE PERIOD AT THE PLAN.

I BELIEVE HECTOR HAS TALKED THROUGH SOME OF THAT STUFF WITH YOU GUYS IN PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT I IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW THOSE CAME TO BE.

>> WELL, HECTOR, WILL YOU REFRESH US AGAIN? I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S OUT THERE AGAIN.

>> MAJORITY OF THESE ALLEGED VIOLATIONS WERE FROM HIGH AMMONIA NITROGEN, WHICH IS, THE BUGS HAVE TO EAT THE AMMONIA OUT OUT OF THE SYSTEM, BUT THEY WITHOUT ENOUGH AIR, THEY CAN'T DO THAT EFFECTIVELY.

THAT'S WHERE THESE VIOLATIONS COME FROM.

THE EPA, AS YOU GUYS MAY REMEMBER, WE HAD TO SEND A LETTER TO THEM IN RESPONSE, WHICH NOT ONLY REFERENCED, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE PERIODS THAT WE WERE HAVING WHEN WE HAD TO TAKE OUR AERATION BASINS DOWN, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO RECTIFY THE ISSUES WITH THIS PROJECT.

>> AS WE CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH AS THE MONTHS GO ON, THAT AERATION SYSTEM AND THE SECONDARY TREATMENT IS DETERIORATING SO ALMOST THE TWO JUST CONTINUE TO FAIL.

IT'S GOING TO GET PROGRESSIVELY WORSE UNTIL WE GET IN THERE TO MAKE SOME PLACEMENTS.

>> I'M IGNORANT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT.

IS IT JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE THAT WE COULD DO, THOUGH? WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE FINISH THIS PROJECT TO

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FIX WHAT SOUNDS LIKE MAINTENANCE? PARTS ARE FAILING.

>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT THIS PLANT WAS DESIGNED AND I BELIEVE IN THE MID '80S, I BELIEVE, MAYBE UP TO THE EARLY '90S.

I'M NOT 100% SURE ON THAT, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS MID '80S, SOMEWHERE UP TO THE '90S IN THAT, YOU '85-'90 PERIOD.

BUT DURING THAT TIME, THE TCQ, AND THEY GAVE PERMITS BACK THEN, IT WASN'T AS STRINGENT AS IT IS TODAY.

SO THAT PLANT WAS BUILT TO MEET THE PERMIT THAT WAS DURING THAT TIME PRIVATE.

NOW OUR APARTMENT IS A LOT MORE STRINGENT, BUT THE PLANT HAS NOT BEEN REDESIGNED TO MEET THESE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS.

OVER TIME, YOU HAVE PERMITS THAT ARE, MAYBE EVERY FIVE I'M JUST THROWING NUMBERS OUT THERE, MAYBE EVERY FIVE, 10 YEARS YOUR AMMONIA, YOU HAVE TO OKAY, NOW WE NEED TO TAKE OUT MORE AMMONIA BUT WE NEVER ADJUSTED THE PLANT TO MEET THOSE.

SO NOW HERE WE ARE TODAY MEETING AT THE POINT WHERE THE PERMITS ARE STRINGENT, BUT ALSO WE HAVE POPULATION INCREASES.

WE'RE PUTTING MORE FLOW WITH THE PLANT, ALL THESE TYPES OF THINGS, AND YES, EVERYTHING AGING, BREAKING, FALLING APART.

ALL THOSE THINGS GOT US TO THIS POINT WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

WE NOW WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.

>> JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, IF WE WERE TO JUST DO BASIC MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR WHAT WE HAVE, WE STILL WON'T MEET PCQ REQUIREMENT?

>> CORRECT.

>> THERE'S THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE AIR DIFFUSERS IN THE BASINS NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED FOR BETTER OXYGEN TRANSFER EFFICIENCY.

IT'S MORE THAN JUST TAKING OFF ONE PART AND PUTTING ON A NEW ONE, REALLY THE WHOLE PIPING SYSTEM WITHIN THE BASINS NEEDS TO BE REDONE SO THAT THE SYSTEM IS MORE EFFICIENT.

>> REDESIGN EFFORT.

>> YEAH, IT'S A REDESIGN MORE THAN JUST EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT.

>> BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING ON YOU ALL NOW SO WE DON'T KEEP GETTING THE LETTERS.

>> HOW WE MOVE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

>> NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS WHAT'S UPCOMING FROM OUR STANDPOINT.

IN FEBRUARY, WE PRESENT THE FINDINGS OF PHASE 2 OF THE IGA DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

PART OF THAT WILL BE UPDATED COST ESTIMATE FOR THE INSTALLATION, BUT IT WILL ALSO BE A PROPOSAL FOR PROCUREMENT.

ONE OF THE REASONS WE ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT EARLIER IN THE YEAR WAS TO ALLOW A PROCUREMENT AMENDMENT TO THAT AGREEMENT SO THAT WHILE WE'RE FINALIZING THE DESIGN IN PHASE 3, WHICH THOSE TASKS ARE ON THE RIGHT COLUMN THERE.

ON THE LEFT COLUMN, WE CAN, IN PARALLEL, GO ALONG WITH THE PROCUREMENT OF THE LONG LEAD ITEMS, CONFUSERS IN THE BLOWER, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THAT EQUIPMENT SELECTED AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT NEEDS TO DO, AND THAT WON'T CHANGE.

SO WE'RE READY FOR THAT TO BE APPROVED AND MANUFACTURED BY THE VENDOR.

WE CAN CONTINUE ON IN PARALLEL WITH THE DESIGN.

YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU HAVE THE PROCUREMENT PROPOSAL GETS REVIEWED IN MARCH BY CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL HOPEFULLY, APRIL.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THAT EARLY PROCUREMENT AMENDMENT, AND ADDS THAT SCOPE SCHEDULED BUDGET TO THE EXISTING AGREEMENT.

IN MAY, WE GET THE SUBMITTALS GENERATED AND APPROVED.

THEN IN JUNE, WE RELEASE THOSE LONG LEADS FOR PROCUREMENT, AND THAT WOULD TRIGGER OUR FIRST PROCUREMENT INVOICE TO THE CITY, WHICH IS THE NEXT TARGET FOR CITY FUNDING, WOULD BE JUNE TO MATCH THAT DATE WHEN WE ANTICIPATE THE FIRST LARGER INVOICE FOR PROCUREMENT.

THEN, IN PARALLEL, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WE CONTINUE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN PHASE 3 OF THE FINAL DESIGN.

IN AUGUST, WE PRESENT THAT TO THE CITY.

IN SEPTEMBER, ALONG WITH THAT PRESENTATION OF PHASE 3, WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION PROPOSAL, WHICH IS THE FINAL PIECE OF THE BUILDING THE PROJECT THAT GETS APPROVED IN OCTOBER.

THEN IN OCTOBER, WE MOBILIZE FOR CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT SO THAT THE PROCUREMENT TASKS AND THE DEVELOPMENT TASKS LINE UP AND WHEN WE'RE READY TO START WORK.

THE DESIGN WILL BE COMPLETED AND APPROVED, AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE ALREADY ORDERED THE EQUIPMENT, AND WILL BE READY TO ARRIVE ON SITE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT TIMELINE WITH TWO PARALLEL PATHS?

>> BRIAN, WILL YOU EXPLAIN THE TWO PROJECTS?

>> YES, THE TWO MEASURES.

WITH REGARD TO THE AERATION SYSTEM, WE'LL BE INSTALLING A NEW BLOWER UNDER AN EXISTING GLOWER PAD IN THE EXISTING BLOWER BUILDING.

IT'LL HAVE A NEW MASTER CONTROL PANEL THAT WILL CONTROL THAT BLOWER AS WELL AS THE OTHER THREE EXISTING BLOWERS.

THE NEW BLOWER WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE VARIABLE SPEED, SO IT CAN THROTTLE DOWN AND EFFECTIVELY OR MORE EFFICIENTLY, PROVIDE AIR TO THOSE AERATION BASINS.

WE'LL BE REPLACING VFDS THAT CONTROL THE THREE EXISTING BLOWERS.

AS A SYSTEM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THE EXISTING GLOWERS, JUST BASE BLOWERS,

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AND THE NEW GLOWER IS THE ONE THAT FOLLOWS THE LOAD UP AND DOWN.

IN THE AERATION BASINS THEMSELVES, WILL HAVE NEW DISTRIBUTION PIPING AND NEW FINE LITTLE DIFFUSERS.

THE WAY THAT THE SYSTEM RUNS NOW IS, THERE'S PIPING DROPS THAT GO DOWN THE MIDDLE OF EACH BASIN, BUT NOTHING SPIRES OUT TO THE SIDES.

THERE'S JUST DIFFUSERS OFF FROM THOSE, AND THAT'S IT.

WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BASIN, HAVE A GRID ALONG THE BOTTOM SO THE WHOLE FLOOR OF THE BASINS HAS AIR COMING UP INSTEAD OF JUST SINGLE POINTS IN A LINE.

THEY GET A LOT MORE TREATMENT CAPACITY OF THAT, AND A LOT MORE EFFICIENT USE OF THE AIR AND LOWER ENERGY.

THEN PLANT WATER REUSE, WHICH IS MORE OF A COST SAVING MEASURE THAT CAN HELP FUND THE PROJECT.

RIGHT NOW, THERE'S ONE CITY WATER METER FOR ALL THE WATER USE AT THE SITE, MAYBE 30% OF THAT IS ACTUALLY DOMESTIC WATER USE IN THE ADMIN BUILDING FOR CHEMICAL FEED.

ALL THE OTHER DOMESTIC WATER THAT'S USED COULD BE SUBSTITUTED WITH PLANT WATER.

WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN SMALL PUMP STATION THAT PULLS OFF THE WET WELL, RUNNING A NEW PIPING LOOP WITH THAT PLANT WATER AROUND THE PLANT, AND THEN JUST TAKING THOSE PLANT PROCESS WATER USES, DISCONNECTING THEM FROM THE DOMESTIC WATER SYSTEM AND CONNECTING THEM TO THAT NEW PLANT WATER LOOP.

THAT'LL OFFSET, WE'RE THINKING RIGHT NOW, MAYBE 70, 75% OF THE DOMESTIC WATER USE OF THE PLANT.

>> THAT'S A WATER COST SAVING IS ABOUT $330,000.

THAT ALSO SO WE CAN SERVICE 350 MORE HOUSES.

WITHOUT DOING ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SYSTEM, WE CAN SELL THAT WATER THEN TO NEW RESIDENTS.

REALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO RECOUP THAT COST IN ABOUT A YEAR.

>> ANY QUESTIONS ON TECHNICALLY.

>> YOU ULTIMATELY, HAVE FOUR BLOWERS IN THIS?

>> THERE WILL BE FOUR WITH THE NEW ONE RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S THREE. THERE'S THOSE THREE OTHER PADS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF RIM TO UTILIZE ONE OF THOSE.

>> HECTOR BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT, AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS IN THE SCOPE, BUT TCQ CONTINUES TO RAISE THE BAR.

HOPEFULLY, WE'RE NOT PLANNING FOR CURRENT.

HOPEFULLY, WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE NEXT FUTURE TCQ REQUIREMENT.

IS THAT BEING DONE AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS MONEY, HOPEFULLY, WE'RE DOING IT FOR A WHILE?

>> WITH CURRENT AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF BIOLOGICAL PROCESS IN THOSE EXISTING BASIN GEOMETRY.

>> YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE ESTIMATE YET?

>> AS PART OF THE PHASE 1 DELIVERABLE, WE HAD A CLASS 5 OR CLASS 4 LEVEL OPINION OF PROBABLE COST, AND THAT'S BETWEEN $6 AND 8 MILLION.

ON THIS SLIDE HERE, I HAVE PRONOUNCED THIS AS WELL.

THAT'S NOT LEGIBLE.

DO YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE SOMETHING BACK, JUST LET ME KNOW.

BUT THIS IS OUR HIGH LEVEL PROJECT SCHEDULE, AND ALL THE RED ITEMS THERE ARE WHEN WE WOULD PLAN AT INVOICES BASED ON DIFFERENT MILESTONES IN THE PROJECT.

THIS IS BASED ON AN $8 MILLION PROJECT COST, BUT WHEN WE DELIVER THE PHASE 2 DELIVERABLES IN FEBRUARY, WE'LL HAVE A MORE DETAILED COST ESTIMATE, AND THAT INCLUDES CONTRACTOR PRICING AND BIDS.

WE'LL HAVE A MUCH FINER PENCIL THAN WHAT WE USED FOR THIS INITIAL FUNDING ESTIMATE.

>> JUST TO NOTE, IT'S NOT ALL THESE COSTS PLUS $8 MILLION.

>> THIS INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENT.

>> I LIKE THE $6 MILLION NUMBER BETTER.

JOE, ARE YOU HERE FOR THIS ITEM TONIGHT?

>> YES.

>>THIS SUMMARIZES THE SCHNEIDER PART OF THE PROJECT.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS GOING TO GET INTO THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN WITHIN CITY ADMINISTRATION, OTHER CITY CONSULTANTS AND CITY COUNCIL TO MEET THAT JUNE DEADLINE OF THE FIRST LARGER INVOICE OF THE PROJECT.

YOU COULD. WE'RE HERE TODAY IN DECEMBER, AND THE POINT OF THIS MEETING TODAY OR THIS PRESENTATION TODAY IS JUST TO INFORM YOU THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN FRONT OF YOU IN THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR TO MAKE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE FOR US TO STAY ON THIS PROJECT SCHEDULE.

WE'D LIKE TO GET A SEWER RATE STUDY STARTED TO EVALUATE, BASED ON THE $8 MILLION PROJECT COST,

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WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN FOR SEWER RATES IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT FUNDING.

IN JANUARY, ANTICIPATING POTENTIAL APPROVAL OF A SEWER RATE INCREASE AS REVENUE TO COVER THAT CO, WHICH WOULD HOPEFULLY BE APPROVED IN FEBRUARY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW JOE TO GO OUT AND GET THAT STARTED SUCH THAT THAT CO IS IN PLACE BY MAY, BEGINNING OF JUNE, AND THEN OUR INVOICE COMES IN FOR THE PROCUREMENT SOMETIME THROUGH THE END OF JUNE.

THERE'S TWO OUTSIDE THINGS BEING MANAGED AS WELL; THE SEWER RATE STUDY AS WELL AS THE CO FROM THE FINANCIAL.

>> WHEN WAS OUR LAST SEWER RATE STUDY DONE?

>> IT WAS DONE ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

>> YOU CAN'T USE THAT ONE?

>> THAT'S NOT UP TO ME. JOE, CAN TALK.

>> WELL, IT'S REALLY BASED ON THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS WE HAD BACK THEN AND PROJECTED NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS.

THAT'S PART OF THE FACTOR.

THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS, IF YOU WANT TO CREATE ANY CAVEATS FOR OVER 65 OR OTHER GROUPS OR BUSINESS VERSUS RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN TWEAK ALL THOSE THINGS, AND THEN THAT'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOUR RATES ARE GOING TO BE.

>> I WOULD THINK IF THE LAST RATE STUDY WAS FOUR YEARS AGO, IT PROBABLY DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THESE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE COSTS THAT WOULD BE A PROJECT LIKE THIS PROJECT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT RATE STUDY BEFORE.

>> BUT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT. I MEAN, TYPICALLY A STUDY SHOULD BE GOOD FOR FIVE YEARS.

I GET THAT THINGS CHANGE, BUT THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED THAT MUCH.

>> I'LL BE SURE, IS IT EXACTLY FOUR YEARS AGO?

>> I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.

>>PROBABLY, YOU SHOULD GET THAT ANSWER FIRST.

>> BECAUSE WE WERE RAISING OUR SEWER RATES BASED OFF THAT STUDY IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.

WE'VE HAD SOME NEW CONNECTIONS HERE AND THERE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LET THAT HOLD US UP, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THE LAST ONE WAS APPROVED BEFORE WE DO ANOTHER ONE.

>> FOR THE FUNDING PIECE, JOE MAY BE A QUESTION FOR YOU, THEN THE SEWER RATE STUDY, THE PROJECTED REVENUE FROM THOSE RATES IS WHAT IS USED TO JUSTIFY THE FUNDING.

IS THAT TRUE OR?

>> NOT EXACTLY.

AS YOU KNOW, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION HAVE A PLEDGE OF TAXES AND THEY HAVE A PLEDGE OF REVENUES.

OUR PLAN WOULD BE THAT YOUR SYSTEM COVER IT.

I JUST DID A BACK OF THE ENVELOPE TO HAND OUT JUST TO SEE WHERE SIX MILLION WOULD SET YOU WITH RATES OUT OF YOUR OPERATIONAL RESULTS FOR 9/30 OF '23, AT YOUR LAST AUDIT STATEMENT.

YOU NEED A RATE INCREASE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY A RATE STUDY IS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA WHEN YOU'RE UNDERTAKING WHAT COULD BE AN $8 MILLION PROJECT.

YOU MAY WANT SOME VOLUMETRIC ANALYSIS RATHER THAN IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO USE AN OLD STUDY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GAVE YOU A MODEL WITH IT THAT YOU CAN MANIPULATE ON YOUR OWN OR WHAT, BUT IT GETS DOWN TO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER PROJECTS COMING.

IF YOU INCORPORATE A NEW STUDY THAT LOOKS OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, YOU'RE STARTING TO GROW FAST.

STUDIES FOUR YEARS IS ABOUT RIGHT, MAYBE YOU CAN USE THIS ONE.

THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SURE.

WE HAD A PRETTY WET YEAR, UNTIL WE HIT AUGUST, AND THEN WE HAD ABOUT A SIX, SEVEN WEEK DROUGHT.

I HOPE YOU SOLD ENOUGH WATER TO MAKE UP FOR OUR WET SPRING.

BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT UNTIL WE WERE A LITTLE CLOSER TO HAVING SOME PRETTY SOLID UNAUDITED NUMBERS.

OUR TIMING ON A CO,

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IF YOU ALL GREENLIGHT US IN FEBRUARY, WE START THE NOTICE OF INTENT PROCESS.

RECALL THAT THAT'S ABOUT 45 DAYS ONCE YOU DO YOUR FIRST PUBLICATION BEFORE WE COME BACK.

WE'RE SELLING LATE MARCH OR APRIL DELIVERING 30 DAYS LATER.

WITH TIMING LIKE THAT ON OUR SALE, WE CAN PUT OUR FIRST PAYMENT TO COME DUE AT FEBRUARY 15TH OF 2026.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE IT INTO YOUR NEXT BUDGET.

YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO, AS THE GOVERNING BODY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THE ACTION TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE THAT AT THE TIME WE SELL, BUT THAT THAT GETS TO BE THE CREDIT ISSUE.

WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PRETTY HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM WHEN WE COME THROUGH THIS, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT EITHER YOU HAVE A RATE STUDY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MEET OR THAT YOU RUN THROUGH YOUR MODEL THAT YOU'VE GOT FROM YOUR LAST ONE, AND WE CAN SAY, THIS IS IT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING THESE RATES, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN TIME TO BEGIN CAPTURING OUR REVENUE.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION AND A PURE REVENUE BOND IS THAT, YOU'VE GOT THAT PLEDGE OF TAXES.

IF WE WERE PURE REVENUE BONDS, WE COULDN'T SELL UNTIL YOU IMPLEMENTED A RATE INCREASE.

WE'LL JUST CALL THAT THAT'S THE CREDIT/POLITICAL RISK, IS THAT, YOU GOT TO COME THROUGH IF WE GO AHEAD AND SELL THIS WITHOUT HAVING A RATE INCREASE IN PLACE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IS THAT, YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE THE ACTION TO EITHER PUT SOME OF IT IN A TAX RATE? YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO DO THAT OR TO RAISE THE RATE SUFFICIENT TO COVER IT.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> JOE, DON'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

>> THAT'S ALL.

>> JOE, I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

>> YES, SIR.

>> FIRST OFF, WHEN IT COMES TO THE STUDY, LET'S SAY, WE'RE USING THE OLD ONE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST TWO YEARS THAT WE'RE ONE-OFFS.

DO WE BUILD A CONTINGENCY LINE IN THERE? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD STORMS. WE'VE HAD THINGS THAT COME THROUGH THAT AFFECT HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT, AND TRYING TO GET THAT CAPTURE THAT REVENUE IS BASED OFF OF THAT.

>> FEBRUARY 21, THREE YEARS AGO, ALMOST FOUR.

>> BEFORE FEBRUARY?

>> YEAH. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A STUDY, I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT A CONTINGENCY LINE IN THERE FOR THE UNEXPECTED, OR DO YOU KEEP THAT EXCLUDED FROM YOUR ACTUAL STUDY TO ONLY LOOK AT YOUR NORMAL OPERATING EXPENSES IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.

>> GREAT QUESTION. AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO IF YOU WERE ISSUING PURE REVENUE BONDS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE WHAT WE CALL A RATE COMPANY WHO WITH OUR PURCHASERS, THAT WE ARE GOING TO SET RATES AND FEES TO COVER OUR DEBT SERVICE BY NET REVENUES, RIGHT IN NET REVENUES OR AFTER YOU'VE PAID YOUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES.

WE DON'T INCLUDE DEPRECIATION OR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

BUT WE TAKE THAT AND WE HAVE TO COVER OUR DEBT BY 125%.

YES, SIR, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PURER REVENUE BONDS, IT IS REQUIRED WITH YOUR COVENANT WITH THE BONDHOLDERS.

THE CIOS IS DISCRETIONARY, BUT WE ALWAYS STRONGLY URGE THAT YOU DO THAT.

>>THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, YOU SAID YOU DID BACK AT THE NAPKIN, HOW MUCH WERE WE SHORT IN THIS LAST BUDGET CYCLE?

>> ADDITIONAL BOND DETESTS, WE'D BE LOOKING AT 1.25 TIMES COVERAGE.

WE WERE COMING IN ABOUT ONE TIP.

>>NOT SRM, BUT [OVERLAPPING]

>> AGAIN, THIS WAS ALSO USING NOTE. THAT'S RIGHT.

I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO THAT BECAUSE I'M USING SALE DATA.

>> SURE. IT'S BETTER THAN NO DATA.

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>> WE KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.

>> I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE IS, I GUESS IF YOU'RE GOING FOR THAT CO, HOW THAT IMPACTS THE OTHER COS, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO FUND A PORTION OF THE TAX RATE AGAINST IT.

>> WELL, THAT'S YOUR DECISION.

>> WELL, LET'S JUST SAY WE DO THAT.

THAT AFFECTS US ON ANYTHING ELSE WE'RE DOING AGAINST THAT JOURNAL, CORRECT.

>> AGAIN, I WOULD SAY TO ANY CLIENT THAT BROUGHT THAT UP IS YOUR UTILITY SYSTEM IS A PROPRIETARY FUN?

>> CORRECT.

>> THAT SHOULD BE RUN AS A BUSINESS SYSTEM COVER ITS COST.

>> THE USER FEES.

>> SUPPLEMENTING THAT WITH ADVORM TAXES IN AN ENVIRONMENT, WHERE OUR LEGISLATURE EVERY TWO YEARS IS PUTTING THE SQUEEZE ON CITIES AND TAX RATES.

I'VE GOT MORE CLIENTS RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE HOLDING DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AND MOVING OURSELVES BACK TO A REVENUE BOND SYSTEM.

IN LIGHT WE DISCUSSED, THAT'S THAT TAKES AWAY SOME DISCRETION FOR YOU, BECAUSE OF THE PROMISES THAT YOU MAKE TO YOUR BONDHOLDERS WHEN YOU SELL THOSE.

BUT BECAUSE OF OUR POLITICAL WINDS THAT BLOW AND THE DISTASTE FOR TAX RATES IN AUSTIN AND ACROSS MANY COMMUNITIES, THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE SEE A LOT OF FOLKS BEGINNING TO CONSIDER, IF NOT.

THAT'S A CHANGE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T IT'S BEEN ALLOWED ABOUT SINCE 2008 WHEN EVERYBODY WENT AWAY FROM THAT AFTER THE DODD FRAME FINANCE COMMISSION RULINGS.

>> I GUESS LAST THING I HAVE FOR YOU, JON PROMISE IS, IF YOU LOOKED AT WHERE WE'RE AT IN OUR AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE FOR OUR EXISTING DEBT, HOW MUCH IS FALLING OFF IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS?

>>YOU'VE GOT, WHAT I LOOKED AT AND PAID ATTENTION TO GOING INTO THIS WAS YOUR REVENUE, DEBT, YOUR SYSTEM UTILITY DEBT.

WE'RE DROPPING SOMEWHERE AROUND, I DON'T KNOW, 170,000 MAYBE NEXT YEAR, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER DROP SO IN THAT SENSE, THIS THIS COMES IN VERY WELL, BUT EVEN AT 170 MILLION IS.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SIX TO EIGHT, IT HELPS.

BELIEVE ME, IT IT'S A GODSON, BUT IT DOESN'T GET US ALL WAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR.

>> I GUESS TO GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE, THAT'S THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS TO GET TO FUNDING IN PLACE BY JUNE, WHICH IS THE GOAL TO STAY ON TRACK WITH THE SCHNEIER DEVELOPMENT PASS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT PROCESS OR ANYTHING ELSE WE'VE PRESENTED SO FAR? THEN YOU GO TO THE LAST SLIDE HERE.

THIS IS A TABLE THAT SHOWS ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD HAPPEN BY MONTH BY EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PARTIES, WHETHER IT'S SCHNEIDER TECHNICAL SCOPE OR YOUR LEGAL OR FINANCING OR ANY SPECIAL MEETINGS OR CITY COUNCIL ACTION THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN WITHIN THOSE MONTHS, CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS BEING ALONG THE BOTTOM.

THIS IS JUST A ROADMAP AS TO HOW WE'D LIKE THE PROCESS TO GO TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE OF GETTING THIS PROJECT STARTED.

>> JUST TO KNOW IF THIS IS TO GET US TO THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AND PROCUREMENT.

AS BRIAN MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S STILL MORE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE DOING TO GET TO THE CONSTRUCTION, RESTRICTION FINAL APPROVAL, WHICH IS ON SEPTEMBER.

>> YEAH, SEPTEMBER.

BUT THIS REALLY IS, I THINK THE BIGGEST OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT IS GETTING THE FUNDING IN PLACE SO THAT ONCE WE FINALIZE THE DEVELOPMENT DESIGN,

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EVERYTHING'S READY TO START DOING THE ACTUAL WORK AT THE PLANT.

THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW THE JUNE DEADLINE IS KIND OF THE MAIN THING THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

>> DO YOU NEED ACTION FROM US TONIGHT?

>> NOW, THIS IS MORE JUST INFORMATIONAL, BRING THIS BACK TO THE FOREFRONT.

JUST SO WHEN THINGS START HAPPENING NEXT YEAR, WILL BE HOPEFULLY FRESHER IN YOUR MIND.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH $6 MILLION, [LAUGHTER] PLEASE.

>> WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT THE MEETING WHERE WE PRESENT THE NEXT ROUND OF PRICE DEFINITELY SHOW UP. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> ANY OF YOU, THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12,

[12. Discussion and possible action in selecting the properties for Wind and Hail insurance as part of the City’s property insurance program for a policy beginning February 16, 2025.]

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AND SELECTING THE PROPERTIES FOR WHEN AND HE INSURANCE AS PART OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY INSURANCE PROGRAM FOR POLICY BEGINNING FEBRUARY 16, 2025.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS ITEM TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE COME DOWN TO THE WIRE USUALLY EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT'S CRUNCH TIME.

THEY WAIT THE UMPTEENTH HOUR TO GET US A QUOTE ON THE WIND AND HAIL INSURANCE, AND I'M USUALLY SCRAMBLING TO TRY TO DECIDE WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO CONSIDER TO COVER.

IF YOU LOOK AT MY CHART, THIS IS WHAT WE COVERED THIS YEAR.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PREMIUM IS, THE PROPERTIES THAT I WAS ABLE TO GET A WIND BUY DOWN ON.

THEN THAT THE DEDUCTIBLE AND THE WIND BUY DOWN DEDUCTIBLE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE SOME FEEDBACK ON IS IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO COVER THESE PROPERTIES.

KEEP IN MIND ALL OF THE CATASTROPHES THAT HAVE GONE ON IN THE COUNTRY OVER THE PAST YEAR, I WOULD ANTICIPATE AT LEAST A 15-20% INCREASE ON THE PREMIUMS. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK FOR ME ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO TELL THE BROKER TO LOOK AT IN JANUARY.

>> I KNOW WHAT I DO AROUND MY HOUSE.

I GO FOR A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE, AND I PUT THAT DEDUCTIBLE ASIDE.

IT'S MY SAVINGS HAVE THE INTENTION OF NEVER TOUCHING ALL I HAVE TO USE IT? THAT'S I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR RAISING THE DEDUCTIBLE AMOUNT TO PUT IT IN SAVINGS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THAT SHOULD BRING YOUR PREMIUMS DOWN.